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y_jack_lok

Sager's post is too long to quote the whole thing so I picked out this one sentence so I could clarify my comment:

"Now, it's certainly possible that the NWU parent to whom y_jack spoke may not have known what he or she was talking about with regard to NWU offering scholies for certain sports."

Actually, I think the parent was very well informed and I may have misspoken when I used the phrase "continue to offer athletic scholarships". It's just as likely that the parent said they would have to decide whether or not to offer scholarships and I was assuming, because of their NAIA affiliation, that they already had some scholarship athletes. Based on the information above, it seems clear that NWU could not have been offering scholarships and I just got it wrong.

hopefan

Quote from: y_jack_lok on July 21, 2015, 11:16:58 PM
Sager's post is too long to quote the whole thing so I picked out this one sentence so I could clarify my comment:

"Now, it's certainly possible that the NWU parent to whom y_jack spoke may not have known what he or she was talking about with regard to NWU offering scholies for certain sports."

Actually, I think the parent was very well informed and I may have misspoken when I used the phrase "continue to offer athletic scholarships". It's just as likely that the parent said they would have to decide whether or not to offer scholarships and I was assuming, because of their NAIA affiliation, that they already had some scholarship athletes. Based on the information above, it seems clear that NWU could not have been offering scholarships and I just got it wrong.

Yjack, for convenience sake, you really need how to use the quote function.  ;D ;D ;D
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5 Words or Less

Luther's MBB has NWU connections   
http://www.luther.edu/sports/men/basketball/coaches/

  • Mark Franzen, Head Men's Basketball Coach ... Spent two years as head coach at Nebraska Wesleyan University (2004-06) prior to taking over the Norse program
  • Cam Schuknecht, Assistant Basketball Coach/Legends Center Director ... Joined Luther staff after spending eight years as head coach at Nebraska Wesleyan University.  In 2013-14 he led NWU to best record and highest conference finish since 2000-01.  He was an assistant coach at Nebraska Wesleyan (2004-06)

y_jack_lok

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Quote from: hopefan on July 21, 2015, 11:29:18 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on July 21, 2015, 11:16:58 PM
Sager's post is too long to quote the whole thing so I picked out this one sentence so I could clarify my comment:

"Now, it's certainly possible that the NWU parent to whom y_jack spoke may not have known what he or she was talking about with regard to NWU offering scholies for certain sports."

Actually, I think the parent was very well informed and I may have misspoken when I used the phrase "continue to offer athletic scholarships". It's just as likely that the parent said they would have to decide whether or not to offer scholarships and I was assuming, because of their NAIA affiliation, that they already had some scholarship athletes. Based on the information above, it seems clear that NWU could not have been offering scholarships and I just got it wrong.

Yjack, for convenience sake, you really need how to use the quote function.  ;D ;D ;D

I think I know how to use the quote function, though there may be some nuances to it that I'm not acquainted with. I do know that I could have quoted his entire, very lengthy post with all its embedded quotes from other people and then removed everything but the part I wanted to focus on. Instead I took what for me was a quicker path and did a copy and paste of one sentence. Not sure if you are pulling my leg or not.  With you those grinning faces are sometimes hard to interpret.  ::)

Gregory Sager

Quote from: y_jack_lok on July 21, 2015, 11:16:58 PM
Sager's post is too long to quote the whole thing

You're on to me. Lengthy posts are a great self-defense mechanism ... ;)

Quote from: y_jack_lok on July 22, 2015, 08:43:54 AMNot sure if you are pulling my leg or not.  With you those grinning faces are sometimes hard to interpret.  ::)

... as are emoticons. :D

Quote from: 5 Words or Less on July 22, 2015, 12:10:19 AM
Luther's MBB has NWU connections   
http://www.luther.edu/sports/men/basketball/coaches/

  • Mark Franzen, Head Men's Basketball Coach ... Spent two years as head coach at Nebraska Wesleyan University (2004-06) prior to taking over the Norse program
  • Cam Schuknecht, Assistant Basketball Coach/Legends Center Director ... Joined Luther staff after spending eight years as head coach at Nebraska Wesleyan University.  In 2013-14 he led NWU to best record and highest conference finish since 2000-01.  He was an assistant coach at Nebraska Wesleyan (2004-06)

Those are very interesting connections. I still tend to doubt that there will be recruiting overlap, though. Luther doesn't have any current players that are from Nebraska or Colorado.
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5 Words or Less

Nebraska Wesleyan's current travel distances:
Briar Cliff – 154
College of St. Mary – 55
Concordia – 30
Dakota Wesleyan – 306
Doane – 28
Dordt – 197
Hastings – 107
Midland – 51
Morningside – 149
Mount Marty – 181
Northwestern – 192
11 schools = 1,450 total miles
Average = 132 miles

Nebraska Wesleyan's future travel distances:
Buena Vista – 360
Central – 235
Coe – 320
Dubuque – 390
Loras – 390
Luther – 390
Simpson – 210
Wartburg – 330
8 schools = 2,625 miles
Average = 328 miles

Gregory Sager

Thanks for that breakdown, 5WOL. That's a handy reference tool for this board.

I'm guessing that the IIAC will try to accommodate NWU by doing some creative things with scheduling in sports where that is possible (e.g., Friday/Saturday or Saturday/Sunday road games for the Prairie Wolves in men's and women's basketball).
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Not that it matters... but Nebraska Wesleyan has usually had to decide on whether it would have it's sports eligible for NCAA post-season as far ahead as May prior to an upcoming season... not right before a season is to start. There have been later deadlines for some sports, but from what I have been told over the years - the decision especially for basketball was usually made six months in advance of the season starting.
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: 5 Words or Less on July 23, 2015, 01:09:51 AM

Nebraska Wesleyan's future travel distances:
Buena Vista – 360
Central – 235
Coe – 320
Dubuque – 390
Loras – 390
Luther – 390
Simpson – 210
Wartburg – 330
8 schools = 2,625 miles
Average = 328 miles

Google says 60 miles to BVU, not 360.
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 24, 2015, 09:58:08 AM
Quote from: 5 Words or Less on July 23, 2015, 01:09:51 AM

Nebraska Wesleyan's future travel distances:
Buena Vista – 360
Central – 235
Coe – 320
Dubuque – 390
Loras – 390
Luther – 390
Simpson – 210
Wartburg – 330
8 schools = 2,625 miles
Average = 328 miles

Google says 60 miles to BVU, not 360.

Actually, Google Maps says you're both wrong. The shortest route between Lincoln and Storm Lake -- which is basically Interstates 80, 680, and 29, US-59, and IA-39 -- totals 173 miles and requires three hours and seven minutes of travel time.

That would reduce Nebraska Wesleyan's average IIAC travel distance to 305 miles, which is still quite a haul.
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Pat Coleman

Oh, Google's map picked out BVU's campus in Council Bluffs, Iowa. #facepalm
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Gregory Sager

That must be where BVU holds its classes for its Casino and Greyhound Track Management major.
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AndOne

Quote from: Gregory Sager on July 24, 2015, 02:19:39 PM
That must be where BVU holds its classes for its Casino and Greyhound Track Management major.

And that major is in danger of being discontinued or at least downgraded to a Casino major only as, under a bill known as Iowa Senate File 2362, greyhound racing at Bluffs Run Park is scheduled to end on 12/31/15. 🐕 🌅

AndOne

Quote from: Gregory Sager on July 24, 2015, 10:53:28 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 24, 2015, 09:58:08 AM
Quote from: 5 Words or Less on July 23, 2015, 01:09:51 AM

Nebraska Wesleyan's future travel distances:
Buena Vista – 360
Central – 235
Coe – 320
Dubuque – 390
Loras – 390
Luther – 390
Simpson – 210
Wartburg – 330
8 schools = 2,625 miles
Average = 328 miles

Google says 60 miles to BVU, not 360.

Actually, Google Maps says you're both wrong. The shortest route between Lincoln and Storm Lake -- which is basically Interstates 80, 680, and 29, US-59, and IA-39 -- totals 173 miles and requires three hours and seven minutes of travel time.

That would reduce Nebraska Wesleyan's average IIAC travel distance to 305 miles, which is still quite a haul.

In my old Nebraska Wesleyan days, we used to play BVU on a fairly regular basis. I somehow remember the trip taking approximately 3 hours over mostly sparsely populated terrain. The other thing I remember was the BVU fans. This is due to the fact that, in addition to being among the most obnoxiously vociferous fans we faced, they were also quite possibly the most reprobate. Some of the epithets they hurled in our direction even included unflattering comments relative to our parentage. On one occasion, in a game in which we were under over the line verbal harassment from the opening tip throughout, one of my teammates made a two-thirds length of the court last second shot to win the game. Our locker room was at the opposite end of the gym, and during our long walk to the locker room, we gave the stunned BVU crowd a middle finger, #1, salute every step of the way.
Of course that was back in the 1930s when the NWU Prairie Wolves were still known as the Plainsmen and BV University was still BV College. I'm sure the Beaver fans have, by now, learned to channel their aggressive drives into socially accepted patterns of behavior.  :)

5 Words or Less

Fixed It

Quote from: 5 Words or Less on July 23, 2015, 01:09:51 AM
Nebraska Wesleyan's current travel distances:
Briar Cliff – 154
College of St. Mary – 55
Concordia – 30
Dakota Wesleyan – 306
Doane – 28
Dordt – 197
Hastings – 107
Midland – 51
Morningside – 149
Mount Marty – 181
Northwestern – 192
11 schools = 1,450 total miles
Average = 132 miles

Nebraska Wesleyan's future travel distances:
Buena Vista – 360 ... via scenic route through SD & MN  :D
Central – 235
Coe – 320
Dubuque – 390
Loras – 390
Luther – 390
Simpson – 210
Wartburg – 330
8 schools = 2,625 miles
Average = 328 miles