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Darryl Nester

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1623DePauw15-0def. Kenyon, 57-47; won at Wooster, 87-46
#2574Calvin13-1def. Kalamazoo, 97-52; def. #5 Hope, 64-59
#3567Washington U.12-2won at #29 Emory, 56-53; LOST at Rochester, 48-56
#4537St. Thomas11-2def. Bethel, 76-44; won at Gustavus Adolphus, 65-43; LOST at St. Benedict, 62-66
#5536Hope14-1def. Adrian, 80-38; LOST at #2 Calvin, 59-64
#6497Amherst14-0won at Farmingdale State, 72-48; won at Hamilton, 50-43
#7438Messiah14-1def. Stevenson, 79-47; won at Arcadia, 84-46
#8424Tufts15-0won at Bowdoin, 62-44; won at Colby, 51-37
#9412Ohio Northern14-1won at Heidelberg, 76-65; won at Capital, 61-47
#10389Lewis and Clark14-1won at Willamette, 77-43; def. Puget Sound, 58-56
#11380Thomas More14-1def. Westminster (Pa.), 85-38; def. St. Vincent, 63-50
#12335Montclair State16-0won at TCNJ, 61-39; def. Kean, 76-44
#13306Southern Maine15-0def. Rhode Island College, 83-71; won at Mass-Dartmouth, 82-61
#14302Simpson13-1won at Luther, 71-62; def. Wartburg, 66-57
#15206UW-Whitewater12-4def. UW-Platteville, 71-62; LOST at UW-Superior, 59-67
#16202UW-Stevens Point13-3won at UW-Stout, 88-57; def. UW-La Crosse, 67-47
#17182Catholic14-1won at #18 York (Pa.), 60-52; def. Juniata, 70-64; LOST at #28 Moravian, 59-62
#18172York (Pa.)12-3LOST to #17 Catholic, 52-60; LOST to Salisbury, 53-66; def. Marymount, 57-44
#19163Whitman11-3LOST at Whitworth, 56-59; LOST at #25 George Fox, 38-50
#20126Lebanon Valley13-2won at Lycoming, 68-44; def. Albright, 69-51
#21123Cornell14-0def. Grinnell, 66-45; won at Beloit, 89-59
#22107Babson13-1won at Coast Guard, 49-34; won at MIT, 53-35; def. Smith, 59-50
#2387Christopher Newport13-0won at Mary Baldwin, 60-24; won at Averett, 75-43
#2478Mount Union12-3def. Marietta, 68-35; def. Wilmington, 85-75
#2562George Fox12-3def. Whitworth, 70-59; def. #19 Whitman, 50-38


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2661Ferrum12-0def. Methodist, 82-66; def. Greensboro, 90-59
#2746Wheaton (Ill.)12-2LOST at Augustana, 53-60; def. Millikin, 66-46
#2840Moravian14-1def. Drew, 73-51; def. #17 Catholic, 62-59
#2928Emory12-2LOST to #3 Washington U., 53-56; def. Chicago, 80-64
#3022Louisiana College13-1def. Mississippi College, 92-37; won at LeTourneau, 98-47
#3120Williams12-2def. Wesleyan, 68-50; def. Connecticut College, 68-43
#3217FDU-Florham14-1def. Rutgers-Camden, 65-46; won at Manhattanville, 84-64; won at Misericordia, 66-59
#3316Baruch12-0def. Brooklyn, 67-54
#3411UW-Oshkosh13-3LOST at UW-Eau Claire, 46-52; def. UW-Stout, 45-36
#3510Maryville (Tenn.)12-1def. Greensboro, 70-53; def. Methodist, 70-45
T#369Loras12-2won at Buena Vista, 74-71; def. Coe, 59-56
T#369Monmouth12-2won at Lake Forest, 81-78
#383Rhodes12-1won at Hendrix, 70-59
T#392La Roche12-2won at Franciscan (Ohio), 79-39; LOST at Penn State-Behrend, 56-72
T#392Ithaca12-1won at Utica, 55-35; def. William Smith, 69-38
#411Bridgewater State12-2won at Framingham State, 92-67; won at Mass-Boston, 72-58; def. Westfield State, 63-47

Darryl Nester

#1501
How They Fared (So Far)

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Darryl Nester

#1502
How They Fared (Complete)

Williams vs. Hamilton is not quite finished; the score shown is with 4:00 to go.  I went out on a limb and gave the win to Williams.

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1623DePauw17-0def. Denison, 85-48; won at Oberlin, 67-49
#2598Calvin15-1won at Adrian, 85-62; def. Rochester (Mich.), 74-54
#3525Hope16-1def. St. Mary's (Ind.), 87-41; won at Trine, 75-39
#4515Amherst17-0won at Kean, 81-53; def. Bowdoin, 74-58; def. Colby, 69-60
#5490Messiah16-1def. Widener, 67-58; def. Hood, 71-43
#6480Tufts18-0def. Wheaton (Mass.), 64-40; def. Wesleyan, 80-36; def. Connecticut College, 61-32
#7447Washington U.14-2def. New York University, 74-45; def. Brandeis, 60-28
#8439Ohio Northern16-1def. Wilmington, 76-60; def. John Carroll, 72-61
#9403Lewis and Clark16-1def. Pacific, 80-56; def. Pacific Lutheran, 69-37
#10401Thomas More16-1won at Bethany, 95-42; won at Grove City, 61-35
#11388Montclair State18-0def. Rowan, 106-36; won at Rutgers-Newark, 68-48
#12367St. Thomas13-2won at Macalester, 73-44; def. St. Catherine, 76-41
#13342Southern Maine17-0def. Mass-Boston, 70-54; won at Eastern Connecticut, 69-55
#14318Simpson15-1def. #43 Loras, 74-54; won at Dubuque, 75-66
#15247UW-Stevens Point15-3won at UW-Platteville, 71-49; won at UW-River Falls, 63-43
#16242Christopher Newport14-2LOST at North Carolina Wesleyan, 68-69; LOST at #21 Ferrum, 55-65; won at #32 Maryville (Tenn.), 65-60
#17174Lebanon Valley15-2won at Hood, 72-54; def. Alvernia, 84-63
#18167Catholic16-1won at Susquehanna, 75-49; def. Scranton, 66-50
#19143Cornell15-1def. #36 Monmouth, 71-53; LOST at St. Norbert, 44-47
#20119Babson15-2def. Clark, 70-62; LOST to #29 Williams, 42-62; def. Coast Guard, 75-36
#21118Ferrum14-1LOST at #32 Maryville (Tenn.), 70-79; def. #16 Christopher Newport, 65-55; def. North Carolina Wesleyan, 105-82
#2299Moravian16-2LOST to TCNJ, 53-60; won at Merchant Marine, 69-53; won at Susquehanna, 86-42
#2383George Fox14-3def. Puget Sound, 63-57; def. Pacific Lutheran, 59-34
#2467UW-Whitewater13-5LOST at UW-Oshkosh, 49-54; def. UW-Stout, 86-47
#2564Mount Union14-3won at Muskingum, 72-57; def. Heidelberg, 96-85


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2660Louisiana College16-1won at Centenary (La.), 79-71; def. #37 Texas-Dallas, 69-53; def. University of the Ozarks, 108-62
#2733Baruch14-1LOST at DeSales, 54-59; def. Lehman, 64-39; won at Medgar Evers, 87-35
#2830FDU-Florham16-1def. Eastern, 56-47; def. Wilkes, 64-47
#2929Williams15-2won at Plattsburgh State, 59-44; won at #20 Babson, 62-42; won at Hamilton, 57-35
#3019UW-Superior15-3def. UW-River Falls, 72-67; def. UW-Platteville, 65-59
#3117Whitman13-3def. Linfield, 69-58; def. Willamette, 72-41
#3214Maryville (Tenn.)14-2def. #21 Ferrum, 79-70; def. North Carolina Wesleyan, 98-57; LOST to #16 Christopher Newport, 60-65
#3312Carthage14-3def. Elmhurst, 63-33; def. Wheaton (Ill.), 68-36
#3411Howard Payne14-2def. Sul Ross State, 106-53; LOST at Hardin-Simmons, 62-69
#359Emory14-2won at Case Western Reserve, 75-57; won at Carnegie Mellon, 66-64
#367Monmouth13-3LOST at #19 Cornell, 53-71; def. Beloit, 76-65
#376Texas-Dallas13-5LOST to Trinity (Texas), 66-71; LOST at #26 Louisiana College, 53-69; LOST at Mississippi College, 58-59
#385Bridgewater State13-3LOST to Worcester State, 71-76; won at Salem State, 76-68
T#394Rochester12-4won at Carnegie Mellon, 67-60; won at Case Western Reserve, 75-55
T#394Ithaca14-2won at Elmira, 55-29; LOST at St. John Fisher, 59-63; won at Alfred, 69-39
#413Rhodes14-1def. Millsaps, 58-51; def. Birmingham-Southern, 71-58
#422New Paltz State14-0won at Plattsburgh State, 75-71; won at Potsdam State, 71-55
#431Loras13-3LOST at #14 Simpson, 54-74; def. Central, 65-49


7express

New Paltz should make a nice jump.  Maybe from 2 votes up to 30 or something.  Not like Potsdam or Plattsburgh is very impressive, but that was a looooooooong way to travel and they won both games.  We'll know more about them going forward these next 10 days: have road games @ Geneseo state Friday and then @ Western Connecticut the following Tuesday.

Darryl Nester

#1504
How They Fared (So Far)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1623DePauw18-0def. Wittenberg, 74-37; 01/26 vs. Ohio Wesleyan
#2598Calvin16-1def. Albion, 82-38; 01/26 vs. Alma
#3538Hope17-1def. Kalamazoo, 90-38; 01/26 vs. Albion
#4528Amherst18-0def. #22 Williams, 54-48; 01/26 vs. Trinity (Conn.)
#5500Messiah16-2LOST to Elizabethtown, 57-62; 01/26 at Albright
#6486Tufts19-0won at Emmanuel, 61-48; 01/26 at Bates
#7442Washington U.14-201/25 at Carnegie Mellon; 01/27 at Case Western Reserve
#8441Ohio Northern17-1won at Baldwin-Wallace, 66-55; 01/26 at Marietta
#9419Lewis and Clark16-101/25 at #18 George Fox; 01/26 vs. Linfield
#10411Thomas More17-1won at Chatham, 73-30; 01/26 vs. Waynesburg
#11407Montclair State19-0def. William Paterson, 75-62; 01/26 vs. Rutgers-Camden
#12346St. Thomas13-4LOST at Concordia-Moorhead, 62-69; LOST at St. Mary's (Minn.), 56-62; 01/26 vs. Hamline
#13335Southern Maine18-0def. Plymouth State, 91-52; 01/26 at Western Connecticut
#14331Simpson17-1def. Coe, 58-56; def. Central, 73-56; 01/26 at Coe
#15262UW-Stevens Point15-4LOST at #38 UW-Whitewater, 59-65; 01/26 vs. #25 UW-Superior
#16205Lebanon Valley15-3LOST at Widener, 59-69; 01/26 at Elizabethtown
#17180Catholic17-1won at Goucher, 56-38; 01/26 at Merchant Marine
#18160George Fox14-301/25 vs. #9 Lewis and Clark; 01/26 at Pacific
#19124Louisiana College16-101/24 at Texas-Tyler; 01/26 at East Texas Baptist
#20116Ferrum14-2LOST at Mary Washington, 48-64; 01/25 at Averett; 01/26 at Mary Baldwin
#21104Cornell16-1def. Knox, 106-66; 01/26 vs. Ripon
#22101Williams15-3LOST at #4 Amherst, 48-54; 01/26 vs. Middlebury
#2385Mount Union15-3won at John Carroll, 71-62; 01/26 vs. Capital
#2460Babson16-2won at WPI, 65-45; 01/26 at Mount Holyoke
#2558UW-Superior16-3won at UW-Eau Claire, 56-53; 01/26 at #15 UW-Stevens Point


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2648Moravian17-2def. Scranton, 70-62; 01/26 vs. Goucher
#2746FDU-Florham17-1won at Delaware Valley, 71-62; 01/26 vs. Misericordia
#2837Carthage15-3won at North Park, 56-53; 01/26 vs. Millikin
#2935Christopher Newport14-201/26 vs. William Peace; 01/27 vs. Meredith
#3017Maryville (Tenn.)14-201/25 at Mary Baldwin; 01/26 at Averett
#3113New Paltz State15-0def. Oswego State, 56-53; 01/25 at Geneseo State; 01/26 at Brockport State
#3212Emory14-201/25 vs. Brandeis; 01/27 vs. New York University
T#3311UW-Oshkosh15-3won at UW-Platteville, 62-52; 01/26 vs. UW-La Crosse
T#3311Rochester12-401/25 vs. New York University; 01/27 vs. Brandeis
#3510Baruch16-1won at Richard Stockton, 62-53; def. Hunter, 58-41; 01/25 vs. John Jay
#367Whitman13-301/25 at Pacific Lutheran; 01/26 at Puget Sound
#376Rhodes14-101/25 at Sewanee; 01/27 at Centre
#385UW-Whitewater14-5def. #15 UW-Stevens Point, 65-59; 01/26 at UW-Eau Claire
T#392Howard Payne14-201/24 vs. Concordia (Texas); 01/26 vs. Mary Hardin-Baylor
T#392St. Norbert12-5LOST at Lake Forest, 34-52; 01/26 at Knox
T#411Wisconsin Lutheran15-2def. Rockford, 78-39; 01/24 at Benedictine; 01/26 vs. Lakeland
T#411Swarthmore15-2def. Haverford, 69-44; 01/26 vs. Gettysburg
T#411Otterbein15-3won at Marietta, 78-57; 01/26 vs. Baldwin-Wallace

BruinFan

I am going to nominate the Friday night game between #9 Lewis and Clark @ #18 George Fox as the game of the week for D3 women's basketball. It is a 6PM PST tip-off (9 PM EST) and video will be available.

There is not any other game this week that has both teams ranked this high. I'm not promising an elegant game, but it will be intense. This has been a growing rivalry the last 3 years and Lewis and Clark is in position to take one on the Bruins home floor.

A bit of recent history. They finished 1-2 in the conference last year and tied for first the year before. Met in the conference final each of the last 2 years with Fox winning. Due to isolated geography, LC had to play George Fox in round 2 of the 2012 NCAA tournament and only lost by 2 on the Bruins' court. George Fox went on to lose in the championship game.

2012-13
Lewis and Clark handled George Fox earlier this year. Both teams are 7-1 in conference as this game marks the start of the 2nd trip through conference play. Both teams have a heavy road schedule in February and Friday will set the tone. The Pioneers appear to be healthy and playing well. The Bruins are trying to adjust to life after the class that were freshmen on the 2009 National Champion team graduated in 2012. Hannah Munger is game to game and I do not know her status for this game. In addition, 1 other starter and a key bench player are out with injuries for George Fox.

I am looking forward seeing how this game plays out and will have a great view courtside. I encourage others to join online across the country.

Mr. Ypsi

Saddened to hear that Hannah Munger is still just 'day to day'.  Is this STILL effects of her injury in the title game, or something new?

BruinFan

Mr. Ypsi,

It is from the title game injury. I should clarify that day-to-day is my assumption and not official from anyone connected to the team. She has played in 12 of the teams 17 games and is averaging 24 minutes a game, which is not much under her 27 minutes/game average last year. I have however seen her leave games at least twice this year due to issues with the injury.

There are some of us that wonder if it would be best to let her rest through the remainder of the conference season and then give it another try during the conference tournament. Hannah is a wonderful person who will be graduating with a degree in elementary education. I smile at the thought of a 2nd grader with a 6'5" teacher.   :)

7express

#13 USM Saturday has their toughest game of the season @ Western Connecticut.  If they can win that I don't see where they lose again the regular season.  Western isn't in the rankings (mainly because we sucked the beginning of the season bringing together a consistant rotation), but have reeled off 6 straight wins holding opponents to 47 points per game in the stretch and holding them to 45 or below 3 of the 6 times.  However, none of the teams were that proficient on the offensive end and the toughest offense opponent in that stretch put up 62, and USM has many more weapons.  In the game preceding our 6 game winning streak we got torched for 72 by Dartmouth (a 14-5 team), so its still debatable if this is really is a good defensive team, or a good defense putting up good numbers against bad offensive teams.  Game is available on littleeast.tv beginning at 1:00 PM Saturday

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: BruinFan on January 24, 2013, 11:28:18 PM
Mr. Ypsi,

It is from the title game injury. I should clarify that day-to-day is my assumption and not official from anyone connected to the team. She has played in 12 of the teams 17 games and is averaging 24 minutes a game, which is not much under her 27 minutes/game average last year. I have however seen her leave games at least twice this year due to issues with the injury.

There are some of us that wonder if it would be best to let her rest through the remainder of the conference season and then give it another try during the conference tournament. Hannah is a wonderful person who will be graduating with a degree in elementary education. I smile at the thought of a 2nd grader with a 6'5" teacher.   :)

That would be quite a sight!  My son's first grade teacher was so short that many of the fifth graders (including later him) were taller than her. ;)

Manny24

Hello All,
       
Picking up on BruinFan's assessment of tonights game with LC and GF, big test for GF. Hannah will not play. Good chance to see how they do against LC without her. I don't think Christina Williams has ever played a game against GF without her in it! I think they will play a bit faster tempo, hopefully Roos is on her outside game and they don't foul as much as last contest. LC scored 35+ points from the stripe when they met last. Should be a good game.

BruinFan

Did anyone outside the Northwest take in some of the Lewis and Clark vs. George Fox game tonight?

I don't know how it came across online, but it was intense. LC fans came out more in force than normal and were very vocal. Great college basketball atmosphere.

Pioneers prevail and take an important step toward securing home court advantage in the conference tournament. I thought George Fox played well and did so without Hannah Munger. Sophomore Megan Hays (6'3") had a solid game and future looks bright for the Bruins.

mkt

I'm in the Northwest, but couldn't get out to the game so I did watch it online (the second half anyway; I missed the first half).  Yes, the LC vs GFU games have become very good, and even have national implications given that both are in the top 25 and they may very well face each other four times this year, just as they did last year.

Until watching the game, I hadn't realized that Hannah Munger had re-injured her knee a couple of games previously.  One bright spot for Bruins fans:  during halftime of the men's game, GFU recognized all of its senior female athletes, in honor of National Girls and Women in Sports Day (started in honor of Flo Hyman).  Hannah was in street clothes when she went out to get her rose, but seemed to be walking without a limp.

The NorthWest Conference teams are fun to watch because they generally play aggressive attacking basketball on both offense and defense.  Lewis and Clark is especially fun to watch because Coach Fulks will sometimes put her five best players on the floor in crunch time, despite the fact that this five includes no centers, no power forwards, 5'9" swingperson Tayler Wang, and two shooting guards and two point guards.  They can all drive, shoot the three, handle the ball, and defend and since they're all similarly height-challenged they switch at will on defense and switch roles on offense frequently.  Good individual skills, good team ball, fun to watch, but I see them having difficulties when they face teams in the NCAA tournament with talented big people.  Reese DeHart actually looks pretty decent to me, albeit slow, but plays only limited minutes.  The Lewis and Clark Five are athletic and talented, but basketball is still a big person's game and it's asking a lot for them to take on big players inside.  They were able to swarm around Munger in their first meeting this season, but Munger was looking rusty.

7express

Western Connecticut leads Southern Maine 31-22 at halftine

7express

USM loses to Western 68-55 to drop from the list of unbeatens