BB: Just Some Guy's West Region Rankings

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Chapman vs Linfield

Chapman splits 4 games with Linfield
2 (40%)
Linfield sweeps
1 (20%)
Chapman sweeps
0 (0%)
Linfield takes 3 of 4
0 (0%)
Chapman takes 3 of 4
2 (40%)

Total Members Voted: 5

Ralph Turner

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 15, 2010, 09:26:07 PM
Thanks for the information on West Region. Here are all teams in the WEST REGION
http://www.d3baseball.com/region/West

Still not sure why teams in Mississippi, Louisana and Arkansas are in West Region though. Here is breakdown of # of teams per region. Central, Midwest and South all have less teams than West Region.

Central Region 37 
Mid-Atlantic Region: 60
Mideast Region: 49
Mideast Region: 49
Midwest Region: 38
New England Region: 64
New York Region: 40
South Region: 38
West Region: 40
A few years ago, the ASC moved to pull all of its members into the West Region (UOzarks in Arkansas, Louisiana College and Mississippi College).

OshDude

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 15, 2010, 09:26:07 PM
Here is breakdown of # of teams per region. Central, Midwest and South all have less teams than West Region.

Central Region 37  
Mid-Atlantic Region: 60 58
Mideast Region: 49 47
Midwest Region: 38
New England Region: 64
New York Region: 40 39
South Region: 38 37
West Region: 40 39
Above is the number of tourney-eligible teams, according to the 2010 Handbook.

Just_Some_Guy

Really wish there was an auto-save feature on here... accidentally clicked back and erased a pretty thorough analysis. :/

BigPoppa

Quote from: Just_Some_Guy on March 16, 2010, 01:39:53 PM
Really wish there was an auto-save feature on here... accidentally clicked back and erased a pretty thorough analysis. :/

I usually type the bigger stuff on a word document and cut and paste it into the message board. I have been burned a few times as well.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Just_Some_Guy

Quote from: BigPoppa on March 16, 2010, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: Just_Some_Guy on March 16, 2010, 01:39:53 PM
Really wish there was an auto-save feature on here... accidentally clicked back and erased a pretty thorough analysis. :/

I usually type the bigger stuff on a word document and cut and paste it into the message board. I have been burned a few times as well.

Yeah - I knew better. Sometimes even vets plays like rooks eh?

CrashDavisD3

Top Teams in the West Overall Records March 21, 2010
Mississippi College 19-3
Redlands 18-3
Trinity 18-5
Chapman 17-4
Pomona 17-5
Texas-Lutheran 17-6
Linfield 16-5
Texas-Tyler 16-7
Pacific-Lutheran 14-5
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

BigPoppa

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 21, 2010, 10:30:56 PM
Top Teams in the West Overall Records March 21, 2010
Mississippi College 19-3
Redlands 18-3
Trinity 18-5
Chapman 17-4
Pomona 17-5
Texas-Lutheran 17-6
Linfield 16-5
Texas-Tyler 16-7
Pacific-Lutheran 14-5

Redlands really hurt themselves this weekend by dropping a pair to Menlo.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

CrashDavisD3

Redlands losses:

Feb. 12  2:30 PM  at Claremont-Mudd-Scripps * •  L, 13-8     
Feb. 20  11:00 AM  at La Verne * •  L, 5-4     
Feb. 22  2:00 PM  British Columbia  L, 20-3  (Exhibition)     
Mar. 19  9:30 AM  Menlo •  L, 9-6 10inn. 

http://www.d3baseball.com/school/RED   
   
Redlands should win their next 6 with games with Cal Tech, Whittier before SCIAC showdown on April 9/10 with Pomona. Record should be 24-3 by then. Would not count them out so soon.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

BigPoppa

I am not counting Redlands out, but two losses to Menlo could hurt them should they stumble in the SCIAC.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

CrashDavisD3

#429
Redlands has 1 extra innings loss to Menlo not 2 and only plays them once this year otherwise I agree.

They do have 3 in region losses that do hurt Pool C chances and need to win the SCIAC to make sure they make it to the playoffs. But they have 8 games left with Whittier and Cal Tech and should win those.

Pomona series could be for the SCIAC conference title otherwise the Chapman series could be key for a Pool C bid.

Redlands schedule this year

http://www.d3baseball.com/school/RED

This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

tigerfan_2001

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 21, 2010, 10:30:56 PM
Top Teams in the West Overall Records March 21, 2010
Mississippi College 19-3
Redlands 18-3
Trinity 18-5
Chapman 17-4
Pomona 17-5
Texas-Lutheran 17-6
Linfield 16-5
Texas-Tyler 16-7
Pacific-Lutheran 14-5

Odd that Mississippi College is in the West and Millsaps is in the South....

CrashDavisD3

#431
It's called NCAA. They have there own version of Geography...and also multiple criteria of what counts as IN REGION games and multiple criteria for Regions. Simplicity is not how NCAA rules are made. Too many lawyers are involved most likely...

Regional Alignments
1 Each Division III men's baseball team is assigned to one of eight geographic
"evaluation" regions. The primary criteria used for ranking and selection is based
on how a team performs against other Division III "in-region" teams. 2 In addition,
results versus Division III opponents within 200 miles or less of a team's campus,
but outside its assigned geographic region, will be considered "in-region" and part
of the primary selection/ranking criteria.3 All conference competition is considered
in region.4 And finally, the championships committee has expanded the definition
of an in-region contest to include "all competition within an institutions membership
geographical region (Bylaw 4.13.1.1)." The country is divided into four membership
regions. For most institutions, the change in definition should result in an expanded
list of potential in-region opponents than in the past.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

Ralph Turner

Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on March 22, 2010, 11:29:51 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 21, 2010, 10:30:56 PM
Top Teams in the West Overall Records March 21, 2010
Mississippi College 19-3
Redlands 18-3
Trinity 18-5
Chapman 17-4
Pomona 17-5
Texas-Lutheran 17-6
Linfield 16-5
Texas-Tyler 16-7
Pacific-Lutheran 14-5

Odd that Mississippi College is in the West and Millsaps is in the South....

Not really, Clinton MS is about 12 miles west of Jackson MS.   ;)   :)

Actually, the ASC tried to simplify matters by asking that all members of the conference be considered in one Region, instead of the Multi-Region stuff that other conferences (SCAC, UAA, NEAC) have to put up with.  The disadvantage to Mississippi College and the ASC is that we don't get the opportunity to have 2 conference members on the Pool C board at the same time, to the advantage of the rest of D-III.

CrashDavisD3

It always seems like the ASC gets short changed in the playoff picture. A lot of very good teams just beat up on each other during the regular season and then continue that in the playoffs.

With number of teams in the ASC they should get 2 bids but because of they way there are structured with their 2 divisions and their playoff system it seems to never happen. The SCIAC and NWC have have no playoff system.

In my opinion the NCAA tends to complicate things with some of the rules.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

baseballfan24

Let's open up the discussion since most teams in the west have surpassed the midway point.  Parenthesis around in-region record.  Brackets around opponents overall record.

1. Chapman 17-4 (13-1)
    2-1 vs. Pomona [17-5]
    3-0 vs. McMurry [9-13]
    1-0 vs. CMS [12-10]   
Still to play
    1 vs. CMS
    1 vs. La Verne [13-8]
    1 vs. Cal Lutheran [14-9]
    4 vs. Linfield [16-5]
    3 vs. Redlands [18-3]

2. Mississippi College 19-3 (14-1) - if Piedmont and Birmingham Southern are within the 200 mile radius to count as in-region other wise (11-1)
    1-0 vs. Millsaps [16-6] - within radius
    1-0 vs. Birmingham Souther [16-3]
    1-1 vs. UT-Dallas [13-7]
Still to play
    1 vs. Millsaps - 2 assuming they make up the rainout
    3 vs. UT-Tyler [16-7]

3. Pomona-Pitzer 17-5 (15-3)
    1-2 vs. Chapman
    3-0 vs. La Verne [13-8]
    2-1 vs. CMS [12-10]
Still to play
    4 vs. Cal Lutheran [14-9]
    4 vs. Redlands [18-3]
    1 vs. La Verne
    1 vs. CMS

4. Linfield 16-5 (14-2)
    1-0 vs. La Verne [13-8]
    1-0 vs. Cal Lutheran [14-9]
    0-1 vs. Pac Lutheran [14-5]
Still to play
    4 vs. Chapman [17-4]
    3 vs. George Fox [12-9]
    3 vs. Pac Lutheran

5. Redlands 18-3 (13-3)
    2-1 vs. CMS [12-10]
    2-1 vs. La Verne [13-8]
    3-0 vs. Cal Lutheran [14-9]
    0-1 vs. Menlo [10-11]
    1-0 vs. Puget Sound [9-10]
Still to play
    4 vs. Pomona [17-5]
    1 vs. Cal Lutheran
    3 vs. Chapman [17-4]

6. Trinity 19-5 (15-4)
    2-1 vs. Schreiner [3-16]
    1-0 vs. Tx Lutheran [17-6]
    3-0 vs. Austin [11-11]
    3-0 vs. Southwestern [10-17]
    1-1 vs. Millsaps [16-6] - assuming this counts as in-region
    1-0 vs. Hardin-Simmons [10-10]
    0-2 vs. Hendrix [9-12]
Still to play
    1 vs. Tx Lutheran
    3 vs. Millsaps
    2 vs. Austin

7. Texas Lutheran 17-6 (14-6)
    2-1 vs. Austin [11-11]
    2-0 vs. Southwestern [10-17]
    2-0 vs. UT-Tyler [16-7]
    1-2 vs. U of Dallas [5-16]
    0-1 vs. Trinity [19-5]
    2-1 vs. McMurry [9-13]
    2-1 vs. Howard Payne [11-10]
Still to play
    1 vs. Trinity
    1 vs. Southwestern
    3 vs. UMHB [11-11]
    3 vs. Hardin-Simmons [10-10]
    3 vs. Sul Ross [12-8]

8. UT-Tyler 16-7 (14-6)
    0-2 vs. UMHB [11-11]
    0-2 vs. Tx Lutheran [17-6]
    1-0 vs. UT-Dallas [13-7]
    2-1 vs. Hardin-Simmons [10-10]
    2-1 vs. Sul Ross [12-8]
    2-0 vs. Hendrix [9-12]
Still to play
    3 vs. UT-Dallas
    3 vs. Miss. College [19-3]
    2 vs. Austin [11-11]

9. Pacific Lutheran 14-5 (10-5)
    2-1 vs. George Fox [12-9]
    1-0 vs. Linfield [16-5]
    0-3 vs. Menlo [10-11]
    0-1 vs. Puget Sound [9-10]
    1-0 vs. La Verne [13-8]
    1-0 vs. Cal Lutheran [14-9]
Still to play
    3 vs. Linfield

10. La Verne 13-8 (12-7)
    0-1 vs Linfield [16-5]
    0-1 vs. Pac Lutheran [14-5]
    1-2 vs. Redlands [18-3]
    1-0 vs. George Fox [12-9]
    0-3 vs. Pomona [17-5]
    1-0 vs. CMS [12-10]
Still to play
    4 vs. CMS
    4 vs. Cal Lutheran [14-9]
    1 vs. Pomona
    1 vs. Redlands

11. Cal Lutheran
12. UT-Dallas

It is tight as usual in the west region.  It appears as though those teams 7 and down have some games that they can look back at as games they maybe should have won, or they picked a bad time for a bad weekend.  There is much yet to be determined.  We should have a pretty clear lock on the NWC after Linfield plays George Fox.  It should come down to the winner of the Pac Lu series unless George Fox gets hot.  The SCIAC looks as though Redlands will have to beat Pomona.  A split will not due, or one of them will have to slip up along the way, which is very possible.  Too bad those two conferences do not play tournaments because they seem as though they would be very competitive amongst the top 3 to four teams.  Trinity could very well be up for a bid if they were to miss the championship.  Looks as though the ASC will have to be won depending on how well Miss College finishes, or if Tx. Lutheran or UT-Tyler could finish very hot down the stretch.  Otherwise, they had better win it all.

Feel free to correct any mistakes made.