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Title: MBB: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 01, 2018, 11:34:40 PM
Just going by what was said on Hoopsville tonight we have a new conference that will be in the Mid Atlantic. The Atlantic East Conference. I know this is preliminary but hey why not start a new thread to start the conversation.  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 01, 2018, 11:45:02 PM
ROFL Bravo, sir. Well done.

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Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: gordonmann on February 02, 2018, 03:43:06 PM
Do we know for certain that it will be in the Mid Atlantic region?
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: ronk on February 02, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
Leave them in the Atlantic; instead, return the Freedom to the Mid-Atlantic where they belong by name, at a minimum.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: NEPAFAN on February 02, 2018, 04:06:49 PM
what teams are in this conference?
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 02, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Cabrini, Gwynedd, Neumann, Immaculata, Marywood, Wesley & Marymount.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 06:40:04 PM
When you look at the numbers for both the Atlantic and Mid-Atlantic, I think it is a no-brainer it goes in the Mid-Atlantic.

Just using the men's basketball handbook (women's would have more numbers, slightly in the Atlantic)..

There are five conferences in the Atlantic (CUNYAC, CSAC, NJAC, MACF, Skyline)... there are four in the Mid-Atlantic (CAC, Centennial, Landmark, MACC).

There are 49 schools in the Atlantic... 38 in the Mid-Atlantic.

I suspect to even the conferences out and to even off the regions a bit more, it will be a Mid-Atlantic conference. Furthermore, if they added it to the Atlantic, the disparity between the two would be greater (52 schools in Atlantic; 35 in the Mid-Atlantic).

Division III has wanted the regions to be more even. The realignment was, in part, to help the Atlantic. Can't see them loading down the Atlantic now and fly in the face of the original intent a few years ago.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 06:41:25 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 02, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
Leave them in the Atlantic; instead, return the Freedom to the Mid-Atlantic where they belong by name, at a minimum.

Not going to happen. Not a chance. The whole point of putting the MACF in the Atlantic was to get the to MACs away from each other and out of the same region. That was a talking point of the realignment plans a few years ago. MAC may have Mid-Atlantic in it's name, but it is just a name.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: mailsy on February 02, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Cabrini, Gwynedd, Neumann, Immaculata, Marywood, Wesley & Marymount.

Arcadia will be coming in from what I am told, but a year after the creation of the conference. There is a long story here, but I have it from several sources Arcadia will be part of this conference.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: tweisman5 on February 02, 2018, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: mailsy on February 02, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Cabrini, Gwynedd, Neumann, Immaculata, Marywood, Wesley & Marymount.

Arcadia will be coming in from what I am told, but a year after the creation of the conference. There is a long story here, but I have it from several sources Arcadia will be part of this conference.

I'm assuming this is an all-sports move for Arcadia?
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 02, 2018, 08:16:43 PM
Quote from: tweisman5 on February 02, 2018, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: mailsy on February 02, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Cabrini, Gwynedd, Neumann, Immaculata, Marywood, Wesley & Marymount.

Arcadia will be coming in from what I am told, but a year after the creation of the conference. There is a long story here, but I have it from several sources Arcadia will be part of this conference.

I'm assuming this is an all-sports move for Arcadia?


Yes that is the goal. The idea is that all the schools will have the same sports to keep everything within the conference.

Also I heard they are looking at other schools to join...as long as the new schools have all the sports that are played in the conference and that includes swimming.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: ronk on February 02, 2018, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 06:41:25 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 02, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
Leave them in the Atlantic; instead, return the Freedom to the Mid-Atlantic where they belong by name, at a minimum.

Not going to happen. Not a chance. The whole point of putting the MACF in the Atlantic was to get the to MACs away from each other and out of the same region. That was a talking point of the realignment plans a few years ago. MAC may have Mid-Atlantic in it's name, but it is just a name.

Why?
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 02, 2018, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 06:41:25 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 02, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
Leave them in the Atlantic; instead, return the Freedom to the Mid-Atlantic where they belong by name, at a minimum.

Not going to happen. Not a chance. The whole point of putting the MACF in the Atlantic was to get the to MACs away from each other and out of the same region. That was a talking point of the realignment plans a few years ago. MAC may have Mid-Atlantic in it's name, but it is just a name.

Why?

There are a ton of reasons that we discussed several years ago when it all went down. First and foremost, it was to continue to treat both as separate conferences. Too many others around the country still think they are one conference (every year I have to dispel the notion that they are one conference, just two divisions; ASC and USA South fans continue to wonder why they can't have two AQs). Secondly, I am quite sure those in each conference wanted to be in separate conferences because basically, if you have the mentality that while they are separate they are the same group, they are hurting themselves in regional rankings. Yes, I know... that can be seen many ways, but when they were in the same region many times the due "sides" pushed others out of regional rankings - and we know how that hurts vRRO numbers.

That's all I'm going into for now. There were other reasons, but it was pretty understood they were going to be split up. That was understood from the moment regional realignment was going to take place.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 11:32:29 PM
Quote from: mailsy on February 02, 2018, 08:16:43 PM
Quote from: tweisman5 on February 02, 2018, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: mailsy on February 02, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Cabrini, Gwynedd, Neumann, Immaculata, Marywood, Wesley & Marymount.

Arcadia will be coming in from what I am told, but a year after the creation of the conference. There is a long story here, but I have it from several sources Arcadia will be part of this conference.

I'm assuming this is an all-sports move for Arcadia?


Yes that is the goal. The idea is that all the schools will have the same sports to keep everything within the conference.

Also I heard they are looking at other schools to join...as long as the new schools have all the sports that are played in the conference and that includes swimming.

I am not sure they are looking, to be honest, and I am not sure who those institutions would be at this point. I know they have turned down those who have inquired about joining including some in the CSAC who wanted to come with.

Not many others to choose from. They aren't going to take anyone from the NEAC. No one from the Centennial is interested. Count out the NJAC. The CAC... York is the only one who may be available, but that is an idea that neither side would be interested. No one else from the MACC or MACF is going to be interested. Skyline? Certainly not the AMCC.

The only crazy idea I could see working is if anyone buys into the idea that Rowan and TCNJ are frustrated and want out of the NJAC, that they would join... but one of the reasons Marymount and Wesley wanted out of the CAC was to finally do away with the state schools... so that's a no-go.

One could look at DeSales and maybe someone else from the MACF, but when I floated that idea past a few people who would know best... they basically dismissed it rather quickly. There are relationships in conferences that just won't be broken.

I just don't see any other options unless somehow this group changes their mind about other CSACs and there is basically one school I can think of and I don't think it will happen (knowing the behind the scenes).

This is the perfect group for themselves... the only way it could grow is if the CAC implodes, but that isn't happening as of now.

Just my two cents having followed and been pretty deep in this story for quite some time.

Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: ronk on February 03, 2018, 12:37:46 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 02, 2018, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 06:41:25 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 02, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
Leave them in the Atlantic; instead, return the Freedom to the Mid-Atlantic where they belong by name, at a minimum.

Not going to happen. Not a chance. The whole point of putting the MACF in the Atlantic was to get the to MACs away from each other and out of the same region. That was a talking point of the realignment plans a few years ago. MAC may have Mid-Atlantic in it's name, but it is just a name.

Why?

There are a ton of reasons that we discussed several years ago when it all went down. First and foremost, it was to continue to treat both as separate conferences. Too many others around the country still think they are one conference (every year I have to dispel the notion that they are one conference, just two divisions; ASC and USA South fans continue to wonder why they can't have two AQs). Secondly, I am quite sure those in each conference wanted to be in separate conferences because basically, if you have the mentality that while they are separate they are the same group, they are hurting themselves in regional rankings. Yes, I know... that can be seen many ways, but when they were in the same region many times the due "sides" pushed others out of regional rankings - and we know how that hurts vRRO numbers.

That's all I'm going into for now. There were other reasons, but it was pretty understood they were going to be split up. That was understood from the moment regional realignment was going to take place.

If the ASA or USA South have the NCAA minimum # of teams(7) in a division, then there doesn't seem to be a good reason not to
have an AQ for that division; if that group left and formed another conference, then after 2 years they would be granted the AQ, anyway. 
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 03, 2018, 10:22:57 AM
Quote from: ronk on February 03, 2018, 12:37:46 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 02, 2018, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 06:41:25 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 02, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
Leave them in the Atlantic; instead, return the Freedom to the Mid-Atlantic where they belong by name, at a minimum.

Not going to happen. Not a chance. The whole point of putting the MACF in the Atlantic was to get the to MACs away from each other and out of the same region. That was a talking point of the realignment plans a few years ago. MAC may have Mid-Atlantic in it's name, but it is just a name.

Why?

There are a ton of reasons that we discussed several years ago when it all went down. First and foremost, it was to continue to treat both as separate conferences. Too many others around the country still think they are one conference (every year I have to dispel the notion that they are one conference, just two divisions; ASC and USA South fans continue to wonder why they can't have two AQs). Secondly, I am quite sure those in each conference wanted to be in separate conferences because basically, if you have the mentality that while they are separate they are the same group, they are hurting themselves in regional rankings. Yes, I know... that can be seen many ways, but when they were in the same region many times the due "sides" pushed others out of regional rankings - and we know how that hurts vRRO numbers.

That's all I'm going into for now. There were other reasons, but it was pretty understood they were going to be split up. That was understood from the moment regional realignment was going to take place.

If the ASA or USA South have the NCAA minimum # of teams(7) in a division, then there doesn't seem to be a good reason not to
have an AQ for that division; if that group left and formed another conference, then after 2 years they would be granted the AQ, anyway.

Unless everyone offers every sport you plan to sponsor AND you can be sure no one is going to leave, it might make sense.  Much better to have a few "extra" teams in various sports to be able to roll with the changes that have become inevitable these days.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 05, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: ronk on February 03, 2018, 12:37:46 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 02, 2018, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2018, 06:41:25 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 02, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
Leave them in the Atlantic; instead, return the Freedom to the Mid-Atlantic where they belong by name, at a minimum.

Not going to happen. Not a chance. The whole point of putting the MACF in the Atlantic was to get the to MACs away from each other and out of the same region. That was a talking point of the realignment plans a few years ago. MAC may have Mid-Atlantic in it's name, but it is just a name.

Why?

There are a ton of reasons that we discussed several years ago when it all went down. First and foremost, it was to continue to treat both as separate conferences. Too many others around the country still think they are one conference (every year I have to dispel the notion that they are one conference, just two divisions; ASC and USA South fans continue to wonder why they can't have two AQs). Secondly, I am quite sure those in each conference wanted to be in separate conferences because basically, if you have the mentality that while they are separate they are the same group, they are hurting themselves in regional rankings. Yes, I know... that can be seen many ways, but when they were in the same region many times the due "sides" pushed others out of regional rankings - and we know how that hurts vRRO numbers.

That's all I'm going into for now. There were other reasons, but it was pretty understood they were going to be split up. That was understood from the moment regional realignment was going to take place.

If the ASA or USA South have the NCAA minimum # of teams(7) in a division, then there doesn't seem to be a good reason not to
have an AQ for that division; if that group left and formed another conference, then after 2 years they would be granted the AQ, anyway.

ronk - the NCAA/Division III have told everyone that only one bid goes to a conference. Period. It is why the MAC has been forced to split the two sides as reasonably far away from each other as possible. There is no conference-mandated cross over and the title game between the two (when did that end) is no longer a "thing." The MAC was basically told, split these two up and treat them as two separate conferences or lose the second AQ. The conference could have been told to split into two offices, but the division is allowing a little bit of grandfather to allow the one office.

Considering that, no other conference is suddenly going to get two bids for divisions. Not going to happen. The NCAA and Division III has been very clear about this. You form a conference, you get a bid. Just one bid, no matter how big you are.

I am not sure why you are stirring the pot on this. This isn't new and was dealt with many years ago, just as having only one gender in DI for those who were grandfathered into the split rule. MAC has been closer to losing the second AQ this century than any other conference has been to getting a second bid.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: ronk on February 05, 2018, 02:01:41 PM
Dave,
  Not stirring the pot - you mentioned that the Freedom was moved to the Atlantic; I just asked why; I didn't remember any good reasons to be moved from the Mid-Atlantic region.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Swish3 on February 05, 2018, 03:18:58 PM
When is this going down?  Frankly, losing Marymount, Southern Virginia and Wesley will allow the other CAC teams to schedule some good out of conference games, which is more exciting to me.... 
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 05, 2018, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on February 05, 2018, 03:18:58 PM
When is this going down?  Frankly, losing Marymount, Southern Virginia and Wesley will allow the other CAC teams to schedule some good out of conference games, which is more exciting to me....

It is already happening. We broke the news at D3sports back in June... while the conference is mute, they start play next academic year - 2018-19.

Quote from: ronk on February 05, 2018, 02:01:41 PM
Dave,
  Not stirring the pot - you mentioned that the Freedom was moved to the Atlantic; I just asked why; I didn't remember any good reasons to be moved from the Mid-Atlantic region.

The biggest reasons were to move the two conferences away from one another. The Atlantic needed more representation in their numbers and this was an easy fix. The other way the MAC on the whole - Commonwealth and Freedom - were pushing each other out of at-large and hosting opportunities. This gives both more equal opportunities.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: ronk on February 05, 2018, 05:26:59 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 05, 2018, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on February 05, 2018, 03:18:58 PM
When is this going down?  Frankly, losing Marymount, Southern Virginia and Wesley will allow the other CAC teams to schedule some good out of conference games, which is more exciting to me....

It is already happening. We broke the news at D3sports back in June... while the conference is mute, they start play next academic year - 2018-19.

Quote from: ronk on February 05, 2018, 02:01:41 PM
Dave,
  Not stirring the pot - you mentioned that the Freedom was moved to the Atlantic; I just asked why; I didn't remember any good reasons to be moved from the Mid-Atlantic region.

The biggest reasons were to move the two conferences away from one another. The Atlantic needed more representation in their numbers and this was an easy fix. The other way the MAC on the whole - Commonwealth and Freedom - were pushing each other out of at-large and hosting opportunities. This gives both more equal opportunities.

This makes more sense from a MAC point of view. Just don't remember it being publicly espoused previously.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Swish3 on February 06, 2018, 08:18:56 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 05, 2018, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on February 05, 2018, 03:18:58 PM
When is this going down?  Frankly, losing Marymount, Southern Virginia and Wesley will allow the other CAC teams to schedule some good out of conference games, which is more exciting to me....

It is already happening. We broke the news at D3sports back in June... while the conference is mute, they start play next academic year - 2018-19.

Quote from: ronk on February 05, 2018, 02:01:41 PM
Dave,
  Not stirring the pot - you mentioned that the Freedom was moved to the Atlantic; I just asked why; I didn't remember any good reasons to be moved from the Mid-Atlantic region.

The biggest reasons were to move the two conferences away from one another. The Atlantic needed more representation in their numbers and this was an easy fix. The other way the MAC on the whole - Commonwealth and Freedom - were pushing each other out of at-large and hosting opportunities. This gives both more equal opportunities.

Yep, I remembered reading about it, but I didn't recall when it was going to begin...thanks, Dave!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Swish3 on February 08, 2018, 10:01:13 AM
Quote from: Swish3 on February 05, 2018, 03:18:58 PM
When is this going down?  Frankly, losing Marymount, Southern Virginia and Wesley will allow the other CAC teams to schedule some good out of conference games, which is more exciting to me....

Actually, it looks like Southern VA's football program is the only one departing for the ODAC...that still leaves the potential for four ooc games next season.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 08, 2018, 12:20:12 PM
Correct... Southern Virginia was not invited into the ODAC as a full-time member. That invite went to Ferrum.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 28, 2018, 11:51:22 PM
Finally, a formal announcement:
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/03/atlantic-east-has-name-formal-announcement
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Mike Rejniak on March 12, 2018, 11:27:02 AM
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Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on May 14, 2018, 09:44:15 PM
Does this conference have a Pool A automatic bid?
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2018, 11:07:21 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on May 14, 2018, 09:44:15 PM
Does this conference have a Pool A automatic bid?

Not until 2020-21, if they dot the "i's" and cross the "t's".
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on May 15, 2018, 09:40:35 AM
thank you. I was able to find an article on Cabrini's website. Appreciate the reply!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on May 15, 2018, 01:18:02 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on May 15, 2018, 09:40:35 AM
thank you. I was able to find an article on Cabrini's website. Appreciate the reply!

They don't usually put that stuff in a release since it can change based on membership especially by sport.

Any new conference automatically has to go through a two year hiatus where they do NOT get an automatic bid. They have to have seven members for basketball for two years before they can get the auto bid. (Once a conference has an auto bid, they have two years to fix their membership should they fall below the seven member threshold before they lose the bid.)

I believe for some sports, this conference does not have the minimum to get autobids, thus why it wouldn't really be mentioned.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on May 17, 2018, 08:00:47 PM
Dave, here is the article. https://cabriniathletics.com/news/2018/3/1/basketball-men-cabrini-announces-formation-of-atlantic-east-conference.aspx
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on May 17, 2018, 08:03:36 PM
For those who wish to not read the article  ;):

"The Atlantic East will initially sponsor and host championships for 19 sports within the NCAA Division III.  With seven schools, the Atlantic East will be eligible for automatic bids to the NCAA Tournament beginning in the 2020-21 seasons in the sports which all schools offer."
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on May 18, 2018, 02:13:52 PM
Yes - I realize that - I'm just saying they don't usually get into those who won't have the AQ. So the wording is key: "in sports which all schools offer." That basically says, of those sports which all seven of us sponsor - we will have an AQ in 20-21... but for those sports which not all seven of them sponsor, they won't get an AQ unless they can get affiliates.

That is what I mean by they won't say it necessarily in an article about the status of those other sports.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on May 19, 2018, 09:10:41 AM
Thanks Dave! Great insight.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on May 30, 2018, 02:59:13 PM
The AEC now has a commissioner! They hired Jessica Huntley, who had been the assistant commissioner at the Centennial for a number of years. Announcement was made today. Conference begins play, as we know, in August.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on July 11, 2018, 07:37:39 AM
The new logo for the conference is unveiled

https://cabriniathletics.com/news/2018/7/6/general-atlantic-east-conference-unveils-logo.aspx
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: gordonmann on July 29, 2018, 11:42:48 PM
This month's Around the Nation podcast goes inside the formation of the Atlantic East Conference, including an interview with Gwynedd Mercy head coach and AD Keith Mondillo. Hope you enjoy it.

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/07/atn-conference-shuffle
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jeffconn on August 21, 2018, 02:27:48 AM
Well, it's a start.

https://www.facebook.com/atlanticeastconference/

http://www.atlanticeast.com/

https://twitter.com/TheAtlanticEast
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on August 21, 2018, 03:23:28 PM
Quote from: jeffconn on August 21, 2018, 02:27:48 AM
Well, it's a start.

https://www.facebook.com/atlanticeastconference/

http://www.atlanticeast.com/

https://twitter.com/TheAtlanticEast

I know Twitter and Instagram have been up for awhile... Facebook possibly as well. Nice to see the website up and running, but this organization has been rushing things when most use more time. Remember, they "announced" less than a a year ago (we broke the story 15 months ago) ... most conferences take two years to come together.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on September 01, 2018, 12:03:34 AM
http://www.atlanticeast.com/
The website is up and running.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 01, 2018, 10:04:19 AM
Just looking at all the rosters in the AEC. The league will be very competitive. There will be no easy games in this conference. Every game in conference is going to be a battle. Looking forward to the start of the season. 1 week to go for schools to start. Cavs will be starting in 12 days when they host Eastern in The Battle For Eagle Road.

GO CAVS!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 03, 2018, 12:03:59 AM
From reading another one of the child boards. It seems the AEC is going to be in the Atlantic region. So I guess this board will get moved over to the Atlantic board. It was nice to be "back in the Mid-Atlantic" for a little while.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 03, 2018, 12:08:28 AM
Quote from: mailsy on November 03, 2018, 12:03:59 AM
From reading another one of the child boards. It seems the AEC is going to be in the Atlantic region. So I guess this board will get moved over to the Atlantic board. It was nice to be "back in the Mid-Atlantic" for a little while.  ;D

Yes - AEC will be in the Atlantic. We have confirmed that ... so, yeah it will be moved. I thought it started in the Atlantic Region, but clearly it isn't.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 05, 2018, 08:59:44 PM
Conference rankings are out. Gwynedd is picked to finish first with Cabrini and Neumann a close 2nd and third respectively.

https://atlanticeast.com/index.aspx?path=mbball
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 07, 2018, 06:53:04 PM
Cabrini's roster is up.

https://cabriniathletics.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on November 07, 2018, 08:36:30 PM
This really does need to be renamed the "Mailsy Board". ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 07, 2018, 10:57:37 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on November 07, 2018, 08:36:30 PM
This really does need to be renamed the "Mailsy Board". ;D

Just providing a service.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on November 08, 2018, 12:41:38 PM
Quote from: mailsy on November 07, 2018, 10:57:37 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on November 07, 2018, 08:36:30 PM
This really does need to be renamed the "Mailsy Board". ;D

Just providing a service.

And I love it!! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 08, 2018, 10:59:29 PM
Conference starts season OOC record 1-1. Immaculata loses at home to Del Val and Neumann beats Kean in Aston, PA

Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 09, 2018, 10:25:03 PM
Conference still at .500. Macs lose again and Marywood gets the season started with a W. 2-2.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on November 10, 2018, 08:09:10 AM
Quote from: mailsy on November 09, 2018, 10:25:03 PM
Conference still at .500. Macs lose again and Marywood gets the season started with a W. 2-2.

Are you going to track this all year? I'd certainly be interested as to how this conference does. Some heavy hitters here.

Good luck to all!!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: ronk on November 10, 2018, 09:55:31 AM
Quote from: CCHoopster on November 10, 2018, 08:09:10 AM
Quote from: mailsy on November 09, 2018, 10:25:03 PM
Conference still at .500. Macs lose again and Marywood gets the season started with a W. 2-2.

Are you going to track this all year? I'd certainly be interested as to how this conference does. Some heavy hitters here.

Good luck to all!!

Somebody tracks the nonconference results for all the conferences and posts them weekly on 1 of the national boards.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 10, 2018, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: CCHoopster on November 10, 2018, 08:09:10 AM
Quote from: mailsy on November 09, 2018, 10:25:03 PM
Conference still at .500. Macs lose again and Marywood gets the season started with a W. 2-2.

Are you going to track this all year? I'd certainly be interested as to how this conference does. Some heavy hitters here.

Good luck to all!!

I was just thinking that last night as I posted that message. I'm certainly going to make every effort to do so. More games today.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 10, 2018, 08:00:19 PM
Immaculata wins their first, 81-80 over Gallaudet. Neumann wins in OT against Lebanon Valley. Marymount beats Lehman. Gwynedd beats old conference foe Centenary. Unfortunately Marywood loses their first of the year to Lycoming.

For the day the AEC went 4-1. Overall now 6-3.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 11, 2018, 05:41:32 PM
Neumann loses their first. AEC now 6-4.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 13, 2018, 07:24:58 AM
So now the season begins for the Cavaliers as they take on their cross street rivals Eastern for the Battle of Eagle Road. Women start at 6 and the men at 8.
GO CAVS!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 13, 2018, 11:57:47 PM
AEC goes 3-1 on the night as Marymount beats Catholic, Gwynedd defeats Goucher and Immaculata wins in OT against PSU-Abington. The only loss was Cabrini going down against their cross street rivals, Eastern. 

Conference now 9-5.

Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on November 14, 2018, 09:21:22 AM
Quote from: mailsy on November 13, 2018, 11:57:47 PM
AEC goes 3-1 on the night as Marymount beats Catholic, Gwynedd defeats Goucher and Immaculata wins in OT against PSU-Abington. The only loss was Cabrini going down against their cross street rivals, Eastern. 

Conference now 9-5.

What do you think about Eastern? Decent team?
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 17, 2018, 11:27:51 PM
Since Wednesday AEC goes 5-8. Overall OOC is now 14-13. Average.

Quote from: jmcozenlaw on November 14, 2018, 09:21:22 AM
Quote from: mailsy on November 13, 2018, 11:57:47 PM
AEC goes 3-1 on the night as Marymount beats Catholic, Gwynedd defeats Goucher and Immaculata wins in OT against PSU-Abington. The only loss was Cabrini going down against their cross street rivals, Eastern. 

Conference now 9-5.

What do you think about Eastern? Decent team?

Yes, decent. They're big. But it was their guards that killed the Cavs. Big win against #22 Maryville today
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 18, 2018, 10:36:59 PM
1-1 today. Neumann wins over York(pa). Marymount falls to CNU. Conference now 15-14.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 20, 2018, 10:42:41 PM
Conference goes 4-2 on the night. Winners: Marymount(over Bridgewater), Wesley(over LBC), Neumann(over Valley Forge) & Cabrini(over Rosemont). Non winners: Gwynedd(to Arcadia) and Marywood(to Penn State Harrisburg).

Conference overall now 19-16.

Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 22, 2018, 10:40:47 AM
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 24, 2018, 08:07:34 PM
2-0 on the day. Marywood beats SUNY Potsdam and Wesley beats Greensboro.

Conference now 21-16.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 25, 2018, 03:53:43 PM
0-2 on the day. Wesley loses to William Peace and Marymount loses to Hopkins.

Now 21-18
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on December 08, 2018, 03:49:51 PM
It's going to be a long year. 5th straight loss. Injuries to 5 players. Very young team that is going to need to grow up fast to turn this year around.

GO CAVS!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on December 08, 2018, 07:27:54 PM
Quote from: mailsy on December 08, 2018, 03:49:51 PM
It's going to be a long year. 4th straight loss. Injuries to 5 players. Very young team that is going to need to grow up fast to turn this year around.

GO CAVS!!!

I was stunned to see that a young, smallish DelVal team won at Eastern today.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on December 19, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
Is there a conference tournament and/or AQ from this conference?
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: ronk on December 19, 2018, 05:05:12 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on December 19, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
Is there a conference tournament and/or AQ from this conference?

No AQ for 2 years; teams will be playing for the pool B selection with other independents.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on December 19, 2018, 05:32:17 PM
How does pool B get ranked? If this opens a can of worms, just ignore.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: ronk on December 19, 2018, 08:01:31 PM
Here's a display from last year's women's pool B to give u an idea of the considerations; some of these might not be eligible in 2019 but add in all the AEC teams. I don't know if there are enough eligible teams  to allow 2 pool B selections this year. At any rate, once the pool B selection(s) is(are) made, the unselected teams enter the pool C selection derby.

Pool B candidates--

Atlantic

Trinity Washington-- 0-8 (.000), SOS of .432

Central

Marantha Baptist-- 4-8 (.333), SOS of .369
Mount Mary-- 4-8 (.333), SOS of .313
Finlandia-- 4-18 (.182), SOS of .526

East

SUNY-Canton-- 9-10 (.474), SOS of .397
Pine Manor-- 9-15 (.375), SOS of .427
New Rochelle-- 6-11 (.353), SOS of .484

Mid-Atlantic

Valley Forge-- 12-6 (.667), SOS of .384

Northeast

UMaine Presque Isle-- 0-8 (.000), SOS of .521

West

UC Santa Cruz-- 3-11 (.214), SOS of .587

No Pool B candidate defeated a RRO this season.

Valley Forge is the only Pool B team with a winning percentage better than .500; therefore, having satisfied the Women's Basketball Committee's preference that a Pool B pick be .500 or better, Valley Forge is the most likely Pool B pick.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on December 19, 2018, 08:45:47 PM
SUNY Canton and UMPI moved out of Pool B to the Pool A NAC, but Thomas More is independent for their final year in D3. Obviously that makes them the lockiest lock that ever locked vis a vis WBB; I assume their men must be at least decent.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 20, 2018, 06:28:56 AM

The best team from the AEC (although not necessarily the conference champ) will have the inside track on the men's side.

Thomas More is actually in the ACAA this year (with Alfred State, Pine Manor, Valley Forge, and Finlandia).  They're only playing 18 D3 games (with probably two more in the ACAA tournament), so it's definitely going hurt them come selection time.  If it's a debate, not having those games will hurt them.

Other than those five, you just have to contend with Maranatha Baptist, New Rochelle, and Santa Cruz.  UCSC is really the only one of those to worry about and they're not playing than many games that count either.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on December 25, 2018, 09:27:16 AM
Merry Christmas to all!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on January 01, 2019, 12:07:30 PM
Happy New Year! Let's hope the start of the 2019 second semester is kinder to the Cavs than last semester.

GO CAVS!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 20, 2019, 05:43:49 PM
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Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 30, 2019, 01:48:30 PM
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Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on February 04, 2019, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: mailsy on January 01, 2019, 12:07:30 PM
Happy New Year! Let's hope the start of the 2019 second semester is kinder to the Cavs than last semester.

GO CAVS!!!

You know it's a rough season for Cabrini when Mailsy goes five weeks without checking in. Don't tell me Eastern is taking over on Eagle Road! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 05, 2019, 04:56:49 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on February 04, 2019, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: mailsy on January 01, 2019, 12:07:30 PM
Happy New Year! Let's hope the start of the 2019 second semester is kinder to the Cavs than last semester.

GO CAVS!!!

You know it's a rough season for Cabrini when Mailsy goes five weeks without checking in. Don't tell me Eastern is taking over on Eagle Road! ;)

My mom always used to say if you have nothing nice to say. Don't say anything at all. Well I've decided to heed that advice this year.  ;D  ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: ronk on February 05, 2019, 07:07:47 PM
Your silence is deafening.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on February 05, 2019, 09:52:10 PM
Quote from: mailsy on February 05, 2019, 04:56:49 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on February 04, 2019, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: mailsy on January 01, 2019, 12:07:30 PM
Happy New Year! Let's hope the start of the 2019 second semester is kinder to the Cavs than last semester.

GO CAVS!!!

You know it's a rough season for Cabrini when Mailsy goes five weeks without checking in. Don't tell me Eastern is taking over on Eagle Road! ;)

My mom always used to say if you have nothing nice to say. Don't say anything at all. Well I've decided to heed that advice this year.  ;D  ::)

Mom was right!! Let's hope that this year for Eastern is just a one off on Eagle Road!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2019, 04:16:27 PM
Here are the first rankings for the men this season: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 09, 2019, 08:24:41 PM
I have something nice to say today. Cavs played better today. Last 10 minutes of the game against Immaculata they seemed to get every rebound and won 95-78. Still too many turnovers(27 in all). Moved up to 5th in the conference. Will get in to the AEC tourney.

This was the middle game of the day for me today. Watched the Lady Cavs take care of the Lady Mighty Macs. On my way home I stopped at Cairn and took in a CSAC game. I saw the 2nd half of the #1 Highlanders take on Rosemont. Cairn loses their first today in conference.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2019, 03:23:33 PM
The second week Regional Rankings have been released: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 19, 2019, 10:35:32 AM
Thankfully and mercifully the season is over for Cabrini. :-X :-[

Never seen anything like it in all my years supporting Cavalier basketball.
Ugh!

Here's to next year!

Hopefully the AEC can get a team in the Tourney. Odds are Gwynedd.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on February 20, 2019, 03:29:46 PM
Quote from: mailsy on February 09, 2019, 08:24:41 PM
I have something nice to say today. Cavs played better today. Last 10 minutes of the game against Immaculata they seemed to get every rebound and won 95-78. Still too many turnovers(27 in all). Moved up to 5th in the conference. Will get in to the AEC tourney.

This was the middle game of the day for me today. Watched the Lady Cavs take care of the Lady Mighty Macs. On my way home I stopped at Cairn and took in a CSAC game. I saw the 2nd half of the #1 Highlanders take on Rosemont. Cairn loses their first today in conference.

The remaining CSAC is tough to watch, when Cairn goes through the slate with one loss. I hope that they have success in bulking up the conference with a few teams with better programs. I'm wondering what the Atlantic East has in store (CAC, MAC maybe) to fill out it's number of teams over the next couple of years?
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 20, 2019, 03:38:37 PM
The third public NCAA Division III regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 23, 2019, 09:39:15 PM
Congrats to Gwynedd Mercy winning the 1st men's AEC title.

I had the opportunity to be at Gwynedd today. It was fun not having a rooting interest in either team.  It was my first game of the day......
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on March 13, 2019, 10:05:40 AM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on February 20, 2019, 03:29:46 PM
Quote from: mailsy on February 09, 2019, 08:24:41 PM
I have something nice to say today. Cavs played better today. Last 10 minutes of the game against Immaculata they seemed to get every rebound and won 95-78. Still too many turnovers(27 in all). Moved up to 5th in the conference. Will get in to the AEC tourney.

This was the middle game of the day for me today. Watched the Lady Cavs take care of the Lady Mighty Macs. On my way home I stopped at Cairn and took in a CSAC game. I saw the 2nd half of the #1 Highlanders take on Rosemont. Cairn loses their first today in conference.




The remaining CSAC is tough to watch, when Cairn goes through the slate with one loss. I hope that they have success in bulking up the conference with a few teams with better programs. I'm wondering what the Atlantic East has in store (CAC, MAC maybe) to fill out it's number of teams over the next couple of years?

The MAC won't have any teams departing after Manhattanville. In fact you'll see them adding teams in the near future, aside from Stevens Tech. York's the most obvious and aligns best with the MAC not the AEAST- Geographically adding York and the placing Widener or Arcadia in the Freedom makes best sense. York is a short drive to Hood/Stevenson, Messiah, LVC, ALbright and Alvernia- LYCO a little further.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2019, 11:44:20 AM
Any move York was thought to be making has been put on hold from everything I've been told. There are several (not sure the number exactly) in the MAC who do not want York in the conference based on egos and their interpretation of what York is ... but I digress.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on March 14, 2019, 05:57:55 PM
I've heard from two people that the NJAC is "all over" Stevenson. Does anybody think that this is even a remote possibility?
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on March 14, 2019, 06:03:17 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2019, 11:44:20 AM
Any move York was thought to be making has been put on hold from everything I've been told. There are several (not sure the number exactly) in the MAC who do not want York in the conference based on egos and their interpretation of what York is ... but I digress.

I could go into some REAL detail here from the right-from-the-horses-mouth crew........................but I can't, and won't :)

York sees itself as "worthy" of the Centennial and has been poking around to see if they would have any interest in adding a member. They are interested in the MAC as a "fall back". Several MAC folks are fully aware of this fact and have zero interest as a result!!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on March 17, 2019, 11:02:40 PM
Now that Division III basketball season is officially over; just think it's less than 7 months until preseason practice begins.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: ronk on March 18, 2019, 11:35:49 PM
 Or, as some of us call it, the 2nd(recruiting) season.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 19, 2019, 12:13:15 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2019, 11:44:20 AM
Any move York was thought to be making has been put on hold from everything I've been told. There are several (not sure the number exactly) in the MAC who do not want York in the conference based on egos and their interpretation of what York is ... but I digress.

So... I've been off the boards for nearly a week because I simply don't have time from the moment I leave for the final four until I get back.

That said, I got a call the day after I posted this ... which is part of why I posted it (more on that in a moment). It appears momentum has restarted on the process. This gave me a great opportunity to pick some brains of a number of people both on the phone and in person in the last week and gathered a move by York is certainly possible. I know the MAC has shown interest and you can look at a few things done by Commonwealth members that would set-up such a move.

Sometimes I like to post things, based on actual facts or knowledge I have gathered, to help flush out more information. This is a prime example. It caused a text and a phone call to be made ... which then caused a few more conversations to be had. Call it a fishing expedition. In this case, I had been told York was on hold ... but that was months ago. The silence between had me wondering what was going on. This was a perfect opportunity to see what was really going on. I posted what was accurate back in the late fall ... but it revealed what had changed in the meantime.

I hope that makes sense.

Quote from: jmcozenlaw on March 14, 2019, 06:03:17 PM

York sees itself as "worthy" of the Centennial and has been poking around to see if they would have any interest in adding a member. They are interested in the MAC as a "fall back". Several MAC folks are fully aware of this fact and have zero interest as a result!!

Nope. Centennial won't take them. They haven't made a conference change since they were created and York honestly doesn't fit the mold. MAC is the "best" fit though there are still members (presidents and ADs depending on the institution) that doesn't want to have York in their conference for reasons that are honestly bogus. I think the Landmark would be a good fit as well, but too many of those institutions think they are on par with the Centennial ... but I digress.

Quote from: jmcozenlaw on March 14, 2019, 05:57:55 PM
I've heard from two people that the NJAC is "all over" Stevenson. Does anybody think that this is even a remote possibility?

No chance in hell unless we are talking football only. NJAC has a bylaw that states ONLY state schools of New Jersey are eligible to be in the conference as full time members. They have taken in other schools for associate membership in specific sports, but no chance Stevenson is brought into the NJAC as a full-time member. Furthermore, that just doesn't make any sense geographically or for Stevenson. The MAC is the right place for the Mustangs - despite what some members, who voted for Stevenson to enter in the first place, would indicate.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on March 19, 2019, 02:01:14 PM
Let's all recheck our sources because March 31st has potential to be a day where a conference votes to add York. It's not the NJAC, Cent or Landmark.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 19, 2019, 02:13:09 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on March 19, 2019, 02:01:14 PM
Let's all recheck our sources because March 31st has potential to be a day where a conference votes to add York. It's not the NJAC, Cent or Landmark.

Well... the ODAC would be a reach, but I guess it is possible. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on March 19, 2019, 05:41:04 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 19, 2019, 12:13:15 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2019, 11:44:20 AM
Any move York was thought to be making has been put on hold from everything I've been told. There are several (not sure the number exactly) in the MAC who do not want York in the conference based on egos and their interpretation of what York is ... but I digress.

So... I've been off the boards for nearly a week because I simply don't have time from the moment I leave for the final four until I get back.

That said, I got a call the day after I posted this ... which is part of why I posted it (more on that in a moment). It appears momentum has restarted on the process. This gave me a great opportunity to pick some brains of a number of people both on the phone and in person in the last week and gathered a move by York is certainly possible. I know the MAC has shown interest and you can look at a few things done by Commonwealth members that would set-up such a move.

Sometimes I like to post things, based on actual facts or knowledge I have gathered, to help flush out more information. This is a prime example. It caused a text and a phone call to be made ... which then caused a few more conversations to be had. Call it a fishing expedition. In this case, I had been told York was on hold ... but that was months ago. The silence between had me wondering what was going on. This was a perfect opportunity to see what was really going on. I posted what was accurate back in the late fall ... but it revealed what had changed in the meantime.

I hope that makes sense.

Quote from: jmcozenlaw on March 14, 2019, 06:03:17 PM

York sees itself as "worthy" of the Centennial and has been poking around to see if they would have any interest in adding a member. They are interested in the MAC as a "fall back". Several MAC folks are fully aware of this fact and have zero interest as a result!!

Nope. Centennial won't take them. They haven't made a conference change since they were created and York honestly doesn't fit the mold. MAC is the "best" fit though there are still members (presidents and ADs depending on the institution) that doesn't want to have York in their conference for reasons that are honestly bogus. I think the Landmark would be a good fit as well, but too many of those institutions think they are on par with the Centennial ... but I digress.

Quote from: jmcozenlaw on March 14, 2019, 05:57:55 PM
I've heard from two people that the NJAC is "all over" Stevenson. Does anybody think that this is even a remote possibility?

No chance in hell unless we are talking football only. NJAC has a bylaw that states ONLY state schools of New Jersey are eligible to be in the conference as full time members. They have taken in other schools for associate membership in specific sports, but no chance Stevenson is brought into the NJAC as a full-time member. Furthermore, that just doesn't make any sense geographically or for Stevenson. The MAC is the right place for the Mustangs - despite what some members, who voted for Stevenson to enter in the first place, would indicate.

My bad Dave. Yes, football only for Stevenson and the NJAC. With Frostburg departing, scheduling 10 games will get even tougher. Wesley just had to schedule a D2 team just moving up from Sprint football.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on March 19, 2019, 05:51:10 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on March 19, 2019, 02:01:14 PM
Let's all recheck our sources because March 31st has potential to be a day where a conference votes to add York. It's not the NJAC, Cent or Landmark.

I've heard about a small dance or two regarding the Landmark but that is going nowhere. I could name some people in the MAC who want no part of York, but there may not be enough. There is another school that has great interest in moving from XXXXXXXXX over to the MAC. With Manhattanville being replaced by Stevens, if this unnamed school were to move over along with York, it would keep the symmetry with 9 teams in both the Freedom and Commonwealth.

Dave, grab Wags and ask him who the CSAC is sniffing around (or vice versa) at this time. I heard that Lancaster Bible blew their chance with a "we don't need you as much as you need us" comment (or something along those lines) with the CSAC and has reached out to the Atlantic East. One of those two might be interested in engaging/re-engaging. I just don't see the Atlantic East fit. The CSAC? I could see it.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 19, 2019, 11:51:21 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on March 19, 2019, 05:51:10 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on March 19, 2019, 02:01:14 PM
Let's all recheck our sources because March 31st has potential to be a day where a conference votes to add York. It's not the NJAC, Cent or Landmark.

I've heard about a small dance or two regarding the Landmark but that is going nowhere. I could name some people in the MAC who want no part of York, but there may not be enough. There is another school that has great interest in moving from XXXXXXXXX over to the MAC. With Manhattanville being replaced by Stevens, if this unnamed school were to move over along with York, it would keep the symmetry with 9 teams in both the Freedom and Commonwealth.

Dave, grab Wags and ask him who the CSAC is sniffing around (or vice versa) at this time. I heard that Lancaster Bible blew their chance with a "we don't need you as much as you need us" comment (or something along those lines) with the CSAC and has reached out to the Atlantic East. One of those two might be interested in engaging/re-engaging. I just don't see the Atlantic East fit. The CSAC? I could see it.

I talk to Wags quite often ... LBC did blow their chance. I think LBC may have to fix some internal things before they get another chance.

As for another departure to the MAC, I don't see it right now. But who knows ... the "oh my god, the sky is falling" mentality is nuts.

As for Stevenson ... I doubt they take football with them for one major reason: I think it would give grounds to the conference to punt the department as a whole. Certainly, anything is possible ... but I think the conference would be ticked off if they moved football to the NJAC.

Furthermore, I don't think the NJAC needs it. Football being a bigger conference does more harm than good. Teams need multiple games out of conference to bolster their resume(s). The NJAC would be smarter to stay at their numbers and allow teams to have two out of conference games (if possible).
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on March 22, 2019, 06:20:37 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 19, 2019, 11:51:21 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on March 19, 2019, 05:51:10 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on March 19, 2019, 02:01:14 PM
Let's all recheck our sources because March 31st has potential to be a day where a conference votes to add York. It's not the NJAC, Cent or Landmark.

I've heard about a small dance or two regarding the Landmark but that is going nowhere. I could name some people in the MAC who want no part of York, but there may not be enough. There is another school that has great interest in moving from XXXXXXXXX over to the MAC. With Manhattanville being replaced by Stevens, if this unnamed school were to move over along with York, it would keep the symmetry with 9 teams in both the Freedom and Commonwealth.

Dave, grab Wags and ask him who the CSAC is sniffing around (or vice versa) at this time. I heard that Lancaster Bible blew their chance with a "we don't need you as much as you need us" comment (or something along those lines) with the CSAC and has reached out to the Atlantic East. One of those two might be interested in engaging/re-engaging. I just don't see the Atlantic East fit. The CSAC? I could see it.

I talk to Wags quite often ... LBC did blow their chance. I think LBC may have to fix some internal things before they get another chance.

As for another departure to the MAC, I don't see it right now. But who knows ... the "oh my god, the sky is falling" mentality is nuts.

As for Stevenson ... I doubt they take football with them for one major reason: I think it would give grounds to the conference to punt the department as a whole. Certainly, anything is possible ... but I think the conference would be ticked off if they moved football to the NJAC.

Furthermore, I don't think the NJAC needs it. Football being a bigger conference does more harm than good. Teams need multiple games out of conference to bolster their resume(s). The NJAC would be smarter to stay at their numbers and allow teams to have two out of conference games (if possible).

LBC also just had a one-and-done with their men's basketball coach. You might be spot on about the cleaning up of some internal things. My buddy is on the case to see what is going on over there. I know they have big plans for growth.................academic, facilities and athletically. The new field for soccer/field hockey/lacrosse is sweet and while small, the hoops/volleyball (men's team is excellent) is actually better than a long list of schools that I've seen (DeSales, eastern, Manhattanville, etc.) As a person of Faith, I love their mission. I just hope they aren't getting out way over their ski's (the comment about "you need us more than we need you").
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on April 02, 2019, 10:55:39 AM
York to Commonwealth (MAC)
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on April 30, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Found this interesting. Broadcasts might be nicer to view.

https://atlanticeast.com/news/2019/4/30/atlantic-east-announces-partnership-with-blueframe-for-new-digital-network.aspx
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on April 30, 2019, 08:11:51 PM
That is mainly the streaming partner ... like Stretch and even YouTube.

It won't change the broadcasts necessary, though if the schools take the Production Truck software, that will help to make a difference.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 01, 2019, 07:01:46 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on April 30, 2019, 08:11:51 PM
That is mainly the streaming partner ... like Stretch and even YouTube.

It won't change the broadcasts necessary, though if the schools take the Production Truck software, that will help to make a difference.

I think you've overestimating Wesley's available bandwidth in that gym.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on May 01, 2019, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 01, 2019, 07:01:46 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on April 30, 2019, 08:11:51 PM
That is mainly the streaming partner ... like Stretch and even YouTube.

It won't change the broadcasts necessary, though if the schools take the Production Truck software, that will help to make a difference.

I think you've overestimating Wesley's available bandwidth in that gym.

I'm not expecting miracles. Just that I might be able to watch more games on my TV as opposed to my phone or desktop.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on May 01, 2019, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: mailsy on May 01, 2019, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 01, 2019, 07:01:46 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on April 30, 2019, 08:11:51 PM
That is mainly the streaming partner ... like Stretch and even YouTube.

It won't change the broadcasts necessary, though if the schools take the Production Truck software, that will help to make a difference.

I think you've overestimating Wesley's available bandwidth in that gym.

I'm not expecting miracles. Just that I might be able to watch more games on my TV as opposed to my phone or desktop.

Someone told me that Wesley's gym made Eastern's and DeSales' look like the Palestra. I have to see Wesley's gym to believe THAT!! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 01, 2019, 10:26:07 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on May 01, 2019, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: mailsy on May 01, 2019, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 01, 2019, 07:01:46 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on April 30, 2019, 08:11:51 PM
That is mainly the streaming partner ... like Stretch and even YouTube.

It won't change the broadcasts necessary, though if the schools take the Production Truck software, that will help to make a difference.

I think you've overestimating Wesley's available bandwidth in that gym.

I'm not expecting miracles. Just that I might be able to watch more games on my TV as opposed to my phone or desktop.

Someone told me that Wesley's gym made Eastern's and DeSales' look like the Palestra. I have to see Wesley's gym to believe THAT!! ;)

Eastern's gym is much nicer than Wesley's; I've never been to DeSales.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on May 03, 2019, 08:41:47 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 01, 2019, 10:26:07 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on May 01, 2019, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: mailsy on May 01, 2019, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 01, 2019, 07:01:46 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on April 30, 2019, 08:11:51 PM
That is mainly the streaming partner ... like Stretch and even YouTube.

It won't change the broadcasts necessary, though if the schools take the Production Truck software, that will help to make a difference.

I think you've overestimating Wesley's available bandwidth in that gym.

I'm not expecting miracles. Just that I might be able to watch more games on my TV as opposed to my phone or desktop.

Someone told me that Wesley's gym made Eastern's and DeSales' look like the Palestra. I have to see Wesley's gym to believe THAT!! ;)

Eastern's gym is much nicer than Wesley's; I've never been to DeSales.

MUCH nicer than Wesley's? I think I'll pass on catching a game at the Wesley gym. Even Eastern's players (and an ex-coach, then ex-AD) affectionately call it the "Eagle Road Dump" :)

DeSales is bright and clean, but the "bleachers" go up about 5 rows and without a football and wrestling team (about 180 guys combined), they really have small, quieter crowds (ask Gordon what DelVal is like when 150 football players are barking at the refs and opposing players from about 15 feet away......................doesn't help with wins, but the entertainment value is off the charts). ;)

Manhattanville is another "interesting" gym, like a poor version of Eastern's.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 03, 2019, 03:30:04 PM
http://www.whetstone.wesley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Wentworth-Gym-1.jpg

For a big game, the intimate atmosphere is cool, but it's an old, small gym.  You have to walk through the student center to get to it, as well.  An old gym they literally built a building around.  The locker rooms are also incredibly small.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on May 13, 2019, 09:13:12 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 01, 2019, 07:01:46 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on April 30, 2019, 08:11:51 PM
That is mainly the streaming partner ... like Stretch and even YouTube.

It won't change the broadcasts necessary, though if the schools take the Production Truck software, that will help to make a difference.

I think you've overestimating Wesley's available bandwidth in that gym.

Production Truck isn't a bandwidth conversation. It's a quality of execution thing.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on May 19, 2019, 10:22:28 PM
I know that this is the basketball forum and not lacrosse, but I want to congratulate Cabrini's men's lacrosse on getting into the National Championship game here in Philly at Lincoln Financial Field next Sunday!

GO CAVS!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on August 14, 2019, 08:24:35 PM
How will this league be this year? Any surprise teams??
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 05, 2019, 09:42:46 PM
I'll go out on a limb based on info I've gathered over the last few weeks ... Wesley's conference to lose.

I'll leave it at that ... some info I can't share because I'm trusted not to :)
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: CCHoopster on November 15, 2019, 11:48:19 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 05, 2019, 09:42:46 PM
I'll go out on a limb based on info I've gathered over the last few weeks ... Wesley's conference to lose.

I'll leave it at that ... some info I can't share because I'm trusted not to :)

Dave, out of curiosity, does Wesley have everyone you thought they would have this year? 
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 17, 2019, 12:17:48 PM
I believe they do ... they clearly need to gel as a unit.

I also have misplaced my notes from late August. A LOT has happened between then and now personally.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 17, 2020, 04:59:05 PM
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Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on February 17, 2020, 05:41:14 PM
Where, oh where is Mailsy??????
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 17, 2020, 07:05:49 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on February 17, 2020, 05:41:14 PM
Where, oh where is Mailsy??????
I'm here. I just haven't had a lot positive things to say. What I want to say I won't say it here for now. :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: ronk on February 17, 2020, 08:37:46 PM
Quote from: mailsy on February 17, 2020, 07:05:49 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on February 17, 2020, 05:41:14 PM
Where, oh where is Mailsy??????
I'm here. I just haven't had a lot positive things to say. What I want to say I won't say it here for now. :-\

Your restraint is admirable.  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on February 18, 2020, 02:05:23 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 17, 2020, 08:37:46 PM
Quote from: mailsy on February 17, 2020, 07:05:49 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on February 17, 2020, 05:41:14 PM
Where, oh where is Mailsy??????
I'm here. I just haven't had a lot positive things to say. What I want to say I won't say it here for now. :-\

Your restraint is admirable.  :)

Indeed!! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 19, 2020, 01:16:31 PM
Week 2's Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2020, 02:40:44 PM
The Week 3 men's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 15, 2021, 04:54:12 PM
AEC is going to have an AQ problem in two years unless they find a better solution than sitting on the cutline: https://www.d3sports.com/notables/2021/02/delaware-state-pulls-plug-on-wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 16, 2021, 05:46:35 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 15, 2021, 04:54:12 PM
AEC is going to have an AQ problem in two years unless they find a better solution than sitting on the cutline: https://www.d3sports.com/notables/2021/02/delaware-state-pulls-plug-on-wesley

Yeah. ..That's going to be an issue. With this pandemic going on and the current state of athletics because of the virus. Who's going to move to the AEC?
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 16, 2021, 07:53:36 AM
Quote from: mailsy on February 16, 2021, 05:46:35 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 15, 2021, 04:54:12 PM
AEC is going to have an AQ problem in two years unless they find a better solution than sitting on the cutline: https://www.d3sports.com/notables/2021/02/delaware-state-pulls-plug-on-wesley

Yeah. ..That's going to be an issue. With this pandemic going on and the current state of athletics because of the virus. Who's going to move to the AEC?

They'll find someone if they get desperate enough.  The problem will be whether they really want whoever is willing to come.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on February 18, 2021, 07:10:00 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 16, 2021, 07:53:36 AM
Quote from: mailsy on February 16, 2021, 05:46:35 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 15, 2021, 04:54:12 PM
AEC is going to have an AQ problem in two years unless they find a better solution than sitting on the cutline: https://www.d3sports.com/notables/2021/02/delaware-state-pulls-plug-on-wesley

Yeah. ..That's going to be an issue. With this pandemic going on and the current state of athletics because of the virus. Who's going to move to the AEC?

They'll find someone if they get desperate enough.  The problem will be whether they really want whoever is willing to come.

Do they give Lancaster Bible another chance? They just raised about $11 million dollars for an athletics department fundraiser. The $1 million is public. The $10 million dollars is kind of quiet (per the donor). Pretty amazing given the size of the school (I'm not sure how many are smaller in all of D-III) and the state of things today!!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 19, 2021, 07:35:44 AM
LBC was my first thought. They're not all that different than Wesley, size wise, plus they won't have football in another conference driving the ship.

1100 enrollment is not that small for d3.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on February 19, 2021, 03:20:50 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 19, 2021, 07:35:44 AM
LBC was my first thought. They're not all that different than Wesley, size wise, plus they won't have football in another conference driving the ship.

1100 enrollment is not that small for d3.

The 1100 is the total enrollment for all 4 of their campuses (and includes graduate students). The undergraduate enrollment at the Lancaster campus is in the mid-500's.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 19, 2021, 08:52:22 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on February 19, 2021, 03:20:50 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 19, 2021, 07:35:44 AM
LBC was my first thought. They're not all that different than Wesley, size wise, plus they won't have football in another conference driving the ship.

1100 enrollment is not that small for d3.

The 1100 is the total enrollment for all 4 of their campuses (and includes graduate students). The undergraduate enrollment at the Lancaster campus is in the mid-500's.

That's not what their website says: https://www.lbc.edu/about/quick-facts/
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 19, 2021, 11:17:07 PM
They claimed 986 full-time undergrads in their last filing with the U.S. Department of Education, which is up from the 835 we had them listed at from a previous report.

Makes them larger than Immaculata, for example.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on February 20, 2021, 01:16:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 19, 2021, 11:17:07 PM
They claimed 986 full-time undergrads in their last filing with the U.S. Department of Education, which is up from the 835 we had them listed at from a previous report.

Makes them larger than Immaculata, for example.

LBC had better fix the data on the website in that case. Have you ever been to their campus? My backyard is almost bigger (kidding of course) :)

Pete Beers (AD) was talking about the undergrad, fulltime enrollment at their main campus in Lancaster just a few weeks ago when they kicked off their one day sports related fundraiser for February 3rd. Unless I have a major wax buildup, it was definitely in the 500's. Having been to the campus on several occasions........I was shocked it was that much.

Whether 500's, 700's or 900's................small is small and $11 million dollars is a nice fundraiser (although chump change for the NESCAC and UAA ;) ) that many schools, much larger than LBC would love to haver dumped into their athletic department coffers.

Does the AEC forgive them for their past transgression(s) or do they have any better candidates that would make sense AND love to make the jump from a neighboring conference? They plan on adding sports and facilities at a time when most are hoping to tread water, and others, stay alive in the current deep end of the pool.

Conference roulette................the gift that keeps on giving (actually.......taking) :(
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 20, 2021, 01:27:21 PM
I was there last January, actually -- I would not argue with you.

Reports to the DOE generally lag by a year or so -- not sure if that is because of the reporting or because of the agency.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 23, 2021, 01:01:00 PM
FYI - LBC apparently has a path to the CSAC for whenever they decide to take it. Could they go the AEC route? Sure, but I don't think they are as good a fit there as they would be in the CSAC. Maybe it's just me.

I know LBC has an open door to the CSAC and have for awhile now. I am actually surprised they haven't taken the option and announced in the last six months.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: d3closefollower on March 02, 2021, 09:13:26 AM
I wonder if part of the issue that teams might have with the csac is the level of competition.  5 pretty low level athletic programs are in that conference and that's looking at it in terms of national rankings.  I think when valley forge came in that might have shown the direction they are going from a competitiveness standpoint.
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on November 16, 2021, 09:44:07 PM
3 in a row for the Cavs. They play great defense and score by slashing to the hoop and having a good FT %. They don't shoot well though. Young team but very promising.

Cross street rivals up next in Eastern.

GO CAVS!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 16, 2021, 10:14:50 PM
Quote from: mailsy on November 16, 2021, 09:44:07 PM
3 in a row for the Cavs. They play great defense and score by slashing to the hoop and having a good FT %. They don't shoot well though. Young team but very promising.

Cross street rivals up next in Eastern.

GO CAVS!!!

Eastern has been looking mighty good so far.
Title: Re: MBB: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 06, 2021, 06:10:23 PM
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November is behind us and now comes the month of distractions. Exams, travel, holidays, academic breaks, etc. At the same time, early conference games are already shaping how the basketball season will unfold.

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Title: Re: MBB: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 27, 2023, 12:19:45 PM
Tim Mcdonald resigns as head men's basketball coach at Cabrini after 9 seasons at the helm.

https://cabriniathletics.com/news/2023/2/27/basketball-men-head-mens-basketball-coach-tim-mcdonald-steps-down.aspx
Title: Re: MBB: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: NEPAFAN on February 27, 2023, 12:32:04 PM
Forced out?
Title: Re: MBB: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 27, 2023, 01:06:01 PM
Not sure of details
Title: Re: MBB: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on April 26, 2023, 11:51:47 AM
Cabrini has a new Head coach Ryan Van Zelst!

https://cabriniathletics.com/news/2023/4/26/basketball-men-ryan-van-zelst-named-the-seventh-head-mens-basketball-coach-in-program-history.aspx
Title: Re: MBB: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 23, 2023, 08:13:48 AM
Sad news for Mailsy and Coach C and others: We've learned that Cabrini will be closing after the upcoming 2023-24 academic year.

https://d3sports.com/notables/2023/06/cabrini-university-to-be-sold
Title: Re: MBB: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: lefty2 on June 23, 2023, 11:14:06 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 23, 2023, 08:13:48 AM
Sad news for Mailsy and Coach C and others: We've learned that Cabrini will be closing after the upcoming 2023-24 academic year.

https://d3sports.com/notables/2023/06/cabrini-university-to-be-sold
There but for the grace of God go I.

I would've had a lot of schools ahead of Cabrini on the this list.
Title: Re: MBB: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on June 23, 2023, 01:28:52 PM
Yes. It is very sad. It feels like I lost a close friend.  :-[
Title: Re: MBB: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: Coach C on June 23, 2023, 09:15:19 PM
Sad day for all of us with Cabrini ties and really for all of D3. Good job to Pat and Dave for breaking this story.  - Coach C
Title: Re: MBB: Atlantic East Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 24, 2024, 03:59:05 PM
I missed the boards to express my thoughts. Glad they're back. The season was very difficult. Coach Ryan did a fantastic job this year with what he had. The Cavs played hard and were well coached. They just didn't have enough to compete. Alumni day was the highest point of the season. The Cavs won their last game ever and over 100 alums showed up to celebrate Cabrini Basketball and its legacy. An alum said to me on President's day as Cabrini played their last basketball game,"Think about this...Coed 1974 & approximately 5 senior players a year & 2 senior managers...That means there's only about 350 of us in total with another 150 who never finished at Cabrini...It's a really small fraternity....🏀
I am really am honored and humbled to be part of the fraternity!