Pool B

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The Forgotten Man

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 30, 2008, 11:43:00 PM
Pool B teams are italicized in the Regional Rankings.

I see that the Pool B teams are coming off in this order as of today.

1)  CWRU
2)  Huntingdon
3)  Salisbury versus Northwestern MN.

If you look a look a little harder, you may see it as


1)  CWRU
2) Huntingdon LaGrange
3)  Salisbury versus Northwestern MN.

;)
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@d3jason

Quote from: The Forgotten Man on October 31, 2008, 02:22:08 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 30, 2008, 11:43:00 PM
Pool B teams are italicized in the Regional Rankings.

I see that the Pool B teams are coming off in this order as of today.

1)  CWRU
2)  Huntingdon
3)  Salisbury versus Northwestern MN.

How about this
1) CWRU
2) Huntingdon/LaGrange
3) Salisbury/Wesley vs Northwestern MN

Salisbury, besides the fact that their coach is (who must have forgot  ???) on the regional committee has a in region loss to Delaware Valley and the same in region record.



If you look a look a little harder, you may see it as


1)  CWRU
2) Huntingdon LaGrange
3)  Salisbury versus Northwestern MN.

;)

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Conrad on October 31, 2008, 08:03:54 PM
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on October 31, 2008, 02:22:08 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 30, 2008, 11:43:00 PM
Pool B teams are italicized in the Regional Rankings.

I see that the Pool B teams are coming off in this order as of today.

1)  CWRU
2)  Huntingdon
3)  Salisbury versus Northwestern MN.

How about this
1) CWRU
2) Huntingdon/LaGrange
3) Salisbury/Wesley vs Northwestern MN

Salisbury, besides the fact that their coach is (who must have forgot  ???) on the regional committee has a in region loss to Delaware Valley and the same in region record.



If you look a look a little harder, you may see it as


1)  CWRU
2) Huntingdon LaGrange
3)  Salisbury versus Northwestern MN.

;)
Most coaches recuse themselves when their teams are involved.

As for the Salisbury "in-region" stuff, I will bet dollars to donuts that the error was made by the NCAA administrative staff.  I can name at least 4 major gaffes/SNAFU's that the NCAA has made re: the playoffs in the last 3 years!

Ralph Turner

Redswarm asked about my predictions for Pool B (over on the Pool C board.)

I need to see the Regional Rankings to see what the Wesley/Salisbury game did to the South.

PA_wesleyfan

 Ralph

The east board seems to think that Husson is a lock for a pool B. I see that every team they have beaten except one has no more than 2 wins. I know they are 10 in the east reginal ranking but that has to be wishful thinking on their part..
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 02, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
Ralph

The east board seems to think that Husson is a lock for a pool B. I see that every team they have beaten except one has no more than 2 wins. I know they are 10 in the east regional ranking but that has to be wishful thinking on their part..
That makes for a very weak OWP/OOWP!

DutchFan2004

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 02, 2008, 10:32:24 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 02, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
Ralph

The east board seems to think that Husson is a lock for a pool B. I see that every team they have beaten except one has no more than 2 wins. I know they are 10 in the east regional ranking but that has to be wishful thinking on their part..
That makes for a very weak OWP/OOWP!

I know it was a very early loss to Simpson but Northwestern's loss to a lower half IIAC team can not bode well for them can it?
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AO

I'd put Simpson up against Delaware Valley any day.

Pat Coleman

I think you would lose eight times out of 10.
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AO

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 04, 2008, 02:31:50 PM
I think you would lose eight times out of 10.
prove it.  i really am curious

Ralph Turner

Quote from: AO on November 04, 2008, 02:41:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 04, 2008, 02:31:50 PM
I think you would lose eight times out of 10.
prove it.  i really am curious
I looked at the three indices with which I am most familiar.

Index....................Northwestern.....Del Valley.....Margin--Neutral field
Bornpowerindex18.736.1Del Valley by 17
Lazindex56.6165.01Del Valley by 8
Massey-0.651-0.178
Massey rankings#88#57Del Valley
Massey MOV#113#42Del Valley

Del Valley's winning 8 out of 10 on a neutral field does not seem to be that bold of a prediction. :)

AO

I was referring to the simpson-del valley matchup, but with no common opponents, you really can't begin to state with any authority who the better team is unless you're talking Mount Union.

DustySJU

Quote from: AO on November 04, 2008, 03:10:11 PM
I was referring to the simpson-del valley matchup, but with no common opponents, you really can't begin to state with any authority who the better team is unless you're talking Mount Union.

Here's a common opponent for you OA, how would your team do vs The Johnnies?  :-*

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redswarm81

#568
2nd Regional Rankings are out (Pool B candidates in blue):

http://www.ncaa.com/photos/schools/ncaa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/Nov.pdf
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EAST REGION

1. Cortland State 8-0 8-0
2. Rensselaer 7-0 7-0
3. Ithaca 6-1 7-1
4. Montclair State 7-1 7-1
5. Rowan 7-1 7-1
6. Hartwick 6-1 6-1
7. Hobart 6-1 6-1
8. Plymouth State 7-1 8-1
9. Husson 6-0 6-2  7-0 7-2; Beat Becker 48-13.  Season over
10. Curry 7-1 8-1


NORTH REGION

1. Mount Union 7-0 8-0
2. North Central (Illinois) 8-0 8-0
3. Otterbein 8-0 8-0
4. Wabash 7-0 8-0
5. Trine 8-0 8-0
6. Case Western Reserve 7-0 8-0  8-0 9-0;  Beat CMU  38-13
7. Franklin 6-1 7-1
8. Adrian 6-1 7-1
9. Augustana (Illinois) 6-2 6-2
10. Wooster 4-2 6-2


SOUTH REGION

1. Millsaps 7-0 8-0
2. Muhlenberg 8-0 8-0
3. Mary Hardin-Baylor 6-0 7-1
4. Hardin-Simmons 8-1 8-1
5. Thomas More 7-1 7-1
6. Huntingdon 7-0 8-0  7-1 8-1;  Lost to H-SC 34-38
7. Trinity (Texas) 6-1 7-1
8. Washington and Jefferson 6-1 7-1
9. Catholic 6-1 7-1
10. Wesley 2-1 6-1  3-1 7-1; Beat D-2 Lake Erie 47-26


WEST REGION

1. Willamette 7-0 8-0
2. Occidental 7-0 7-0
3. Monmouth 9-0 9-0
4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point 4-1 7-1
5. Wisconsin-Whitewater 6-1 7-1
6. Redlands 6-1 6-1
7. Northwestern (Minnesota) 8-1 8-1; Open Date
8. St. John's (Minnesota) 6-2 6-2
9. Gustavus Adolphus 6-2 6-2
10. Linfield 4-2 5-2

So Huntingdon's in-Region record has been corrected.

I don't understand Wesley's 2-1 in-Region record.  According to d3football.com, Wesley is 3-1 in region, and they play 5 in-Region games, thus (barely) meeting the following requirement:



  • In order to be considered for selection for Pools B or C, an institution must play at least 50 percent of its competition against Division III in-region opponents.
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PA_wesleyfan

wesley had 6 but the christopher newport game was cancelled and they are 3-1 in region
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