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#1
Men's soccer / Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament
December 05, 2023, 04:52:21 PM
Shout out to Amherst, real champions who are in it to win it each and every year. Not many programs can say that for the last 2 decades.


It had been wayy too long since a St. team won the whole Shabang   :)

Verry happy for these boys, from that video they seem like a great bunch.
That welcome  back from the home fans has to be the most enjoyable part of winning a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.
Whoever said instant Hall of Fame is absolutely correct.

These men can begin planning for an induction in about 10 years.
Rings on the fingers will symbolize a connection with their teammates for a lifetime.

Future St. Olaf players will look at this team and understand that WHATEVER MAN HAS DONE MAN CAN DO. That added confidence playing with a star on your chest can do wonders for a player.
That is what you have done for your school.

Something tells me that in 25 years from now, this accomplishment will be even sweeter and more satisfying than it is even at present.

Champions live forever.

Well done young men.

#2
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
November 10, 2023, 11:41:27 AM
Just want to send my best wishes to Hobart as they battle on the national stage.
It is always a shame when we don't get at least 2 dancers out of the LL, but that is also a testament to the fierceness of our league.

Hoping Hobart puts it on a few people to show them that the region and league is deserving of much respect.

The entire team and especially the seniors should be extremely proud of what their hard work has achieved and there should be much more to come!
#3
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 31, 2023, 04:23:18 PM
Tough way to go out for the senior class.
RPI is a class program. No shame at all losing to them.
We go again boys.
Next season begins now as tough as that is to hear.
This pain will fuel hungry Saints next year.
First season without Dede/Sibanda was always going to be tough but we will be back stronger.
#4
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 31, 2023, 03:31:56 PM
Quote from: Saint of Old on August 31, 2019, 01:50:40 PM
St. Lawrence 2-0 down at home and playing the ball through the Goal Keeper.

Is this a joke... This style of soccer will lose many games.
PLAY FWD... The concept is not difficult.
Not sure if these boys dont understand that the point of the game is to go fwd and score or not??? NO one cares about possession unless it results in goals. Jeesh.
As you can see, some of us have been making this point for atleast 4 years.
Look, this Saint team is not the Saint team who will attack attack attack like when some of us old timers played. The boys are coached to hold possession maybe at the price of penetration. I dont love it, but it is what it is and you just have to support the team and the boys.
#5
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 28, 2023, 03:46:05 PM
LL is nuts.
I give up.
#6
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 28, 2023, 02:46:40 PM
Mac14
#7
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 26, 2023, 07:05:00 AM
Quote from: stlawus on October 25, 2023, 10:15:13 PM
I didn't mean to imply that RIT is a guaranteed win for Vassar, just that they are the 2nd to last team in the league.  If given the choice would Vassar want to play Hobart, SLU, RPI, Union or Ithaca the last game of the season, or RIT?  I think the choice would be clear.   Of course RIT can beat them, they have proven to be tough to beat in the final stretch of the season but for Vassar that is someone they would rather play the last game of the season.
Good analysis, but Vassar just lost on the road andnhavebtheir next game on the road. RIT ends their season well, by well, ending Vassar's season. It is an "if my season ends tonight so will yours" mentality.  One of the strangest years in the LL and the fun has not even started yet.
#8
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 25, 2023, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: stlawus on October 25, 2023, 09:05:14 PM
What is the deal with Vassar?  Did they just greatly overperform last season?  Was Wnorowski a much more important piece than we all thought?  They're lucky they get to play RIT the last game of the season because otherwise they would be cooked like a Christmas goose.

RPI could finish as high as 2nd now with a win against Ithaca and a SLU and Union draw or loss.
Don't sleep on RIT, I have been saying for more than a decade that they are the Jekyl and Hyde of the league.
They can beat ANYONE.
RiT is also playing for pride and tonprove that they are no paper tiger.
I would not want to play this team for survival  if I were Vassar.
#9
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 25, 2023, 01:49:15 PM
Quote from: kevdog on October 25, 2023, 12:49:52 PM
Quote from: Saint of Old on October 25, 2023, 11:36:17 AM
At the risk of sounding like Gary Nevelle, making the NCAAs should be an expectation of any big team.
Things can happen in any season, but a minimal goal should be dancing.
I dont think SLU has missed the dance 4 times in the last quarter century if my math is correct .

Either way, as has been said above, teams are improving, from Bard to Clarkson and Union and like Man United is finding out success is not a given when other teams have quality recruiting pipelines and resources that they did not have before.

Thant being said, Tosh builds his teams for November and SLU v. Hobart historically happens in late October.

Anything can happen on Saturday, but the 6th seed in the conference can win the entire thing so the next two weeks should be fun to watch.
Your right that it should be the expectations and I think that we SLU fans expect it every year becasue we are so use to it. Durocher and Tosh have built a winning tradition.  The problem is that when you do this it is expected every year but that is good problem to have.
Crazy indeed that the entire SLU Coaching history since 1962 can be summed up by what would have been the all-time greatest REGGAE/ROCK and ROLL concert of all time:
"2 Bobs and a Mike"

Consistency and tradition.

Coach (Bob) Goodwin had many good wins.
#10
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 25, 2023, 11:36:17 AM
At the risk of sounding like Gary Nevelle, making the NCAAs should be an expectation of any big team.
Things can happen in any season, but a minimal goal should be dancing.
I dont think SLU has missed the dance 4 times in the last quarter century if my math is correct .

Either way, as has been said above, teams are improving, from Bard to Clarkson and Union and like Man United is finding out success is not a given when other teams have quality recruiting pipelines and resources that they did not have before.

Thant being said, Tosh builds his teams for November and SLU v. Hobart historically happens in late October.

Anything can happen on Saturday, but the 6th seed in the conference can win the entire thing so the next two weeks should be fun to watch.

#11
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 25, 2023, 08:11:40 AM
Quote from: Saint of Old on August 31, 2023, 08:31:21 PM
LL Prediction

1. Vassar
2.SLU
3. RIT
4. Hobart
5. RPI
6.Skidmore

Right now, as we stand, this is a .500 batting average.

One can look at this as an old fogie, picking tourney teams from a historical basis without taking into account the trajectory, recruiting or finer points of a team.

On the other hand, it could just be that this is a very competitive league where the team many people thought would win the league gets bumped out of a top 6 qualifying spot.

Or it might be both :)

Big game todayfor Vassar!
#12
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 21, 2023, 05:30:04 PM
Great point about the excitement of eventual winner and overall parity. As you mention, SLU/Hobart/Union have the best records but Vassar is quite a team and Hobart and RPI can beat anyone. Ditto for Ithaca who beat SLU and Clarkson.
Trouble here is, all this beating up on each other will mean that there is no Pool C for the league which means every team MUST win the league to advance.
This League  Tourney will be fun to watch.
#13
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 21, 2023, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: Saint of Old on October 14, 2023, 11:43:21 PM
Something about this Henry Brown lad really has me thinking he will do BIG things for the Scarlet and Brown.
He comes from a solid program. Has a good work rate and is young and hungry. He needs to keep that hunger and he will be an all-time Saint.
Boys had a good weekend.
I can understand the frustration with back passes, even if we have a quarter back playing goalie, but this is not your Daddy's Saints.
The Tosh Saints do not wear you out with flair and speed, not as quick  from defense to attack as the old school, but he builds his teams for the post season. Boys get stronger as the year goes. SLU beats teams that beat them early in the year because by November it is a different team. They play a possesion and are a team that is hard to beat when the temperature drops.

There is a reason why Tosh is maybe the only Coach to win a LL Championship by winning 3 tourney games as underdog.
Just saying...I have studied these boys for about 30 years.
#14
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 18, 2023, 11:45:07 AM
I wanted to chime in on the match of the day (only match)  The SLUnion bowl.
Before we get there it looks like Vassar has to beat Ithaca on Friday to avoid a must win game against RPI who might also be playing for their lives in that match up.
This league is super tight with only RIT and Bard looking to be completely out of it.

Union is on fire this season and I am sure the Saint fans are happy to be on Sandy today.
Goldfinger is one of the best goalies I have seen from the program in a while.
Kid can really be seen as having an Era as the SLU #1. He has improved each year and that Penalty win in NCAA's has really put his confidence at a new level.
#15
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
October 14, 2023, 11:43:21 PM
Something about this Henry Brown lad really has me thinking he will do BIG things for the Scarlet and Brown.
He comes from a solid program. Has a good work rate and is young and hungry. He needs to keep that hunger and he will be an all-time Saint.
Boys had a good weekend.
I can understand the frustration with back passes, even if we have a quarter back playing goalie, but this is not your Daddy's Saints.
The Tosh Saints do not wear you out with flair and speed, not as quick  from defense to attack as the old school, but he builds his teams for the post season. Boys get stronger as the year goes. SLU beats teams that beat them early in the year because by November it is a different team. They play a possesion and are a team that is hard to beat when the temperature drops.

There is a reason why Tosh is maybe the only Coach to win a LL Championship by winning 3 tourney games as underdog.