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#1
Weighing in on the spring practice topic.  I don't have any inside info but I would bet that the spring practice experiment was directly related to covid and the impact on Fall sports in 2020 and lives on campus for students in general.  I'm not at all shocked that they are moving away from it now that things are expected to return to something resembling the way it was.  That said, it's true that new Presidents can change things.  On another note, I would say that the Admissions Dean at these schools has as much or more of an impact on athletics as the president does. 
Just my two cents.
#2
Quote from: lumbercat on March 29, 2022, 08:05:37 PM
I gotta disagree again Charlie. The whole Tufts payroll issue improved significantly when they brought in the new AD at the same of the leadership change to President Monaco.

ironically, Civetti hired a new DC today replacing the guy they let go recently. Check this guys credentials, he didn't come cheap.
10 coaches on the Tufts staff.

Gotta set the record straight here.  Civietti was hired by the previous AD, who stuck with him through the dark days and the first year of the turnaround.  Monaco came on board several years before the new AD.  The new AD has clearly done a great job. No doubt about that but, the turn around was in motion before he arrived.  Civetti is an excellent coach and leader IMHO.  Rooting for him to suceed.
#3

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Frank Hauser is the OC at Tufts and was the head coach at Wesleyan from '92-'09. I don't recall if he moved directly into that role after being fired by Wes. Has anyone besides Mike Whalen served as head coach at two different NESCAC programs?[/quote]


Vic Gatto was the head coach at Bates before becoming the HC at Tufts back in the 70's.
#4
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
February 11, 2019, 05:15:34 PM
Are you guys sure that Middlebury would win the tiebreaker if Hamilton beats Amherst?  That would create a 3 way tie and they all would have gone 1-1 against each other.  I haven't looked at the tiebreakers after that.  Just wondering.
#5
Sorry about the formatting issue.  My whole point is that in recent years, Midd, Wesleyan and Tufts have made a move towards the top and that has made the CBB and Hamilton challenge even more difficult.  Williams is an anomaly because of a bad coaching situation.  They will be back in the top group before long.
#6
There is no question that NESCAC has always had a Top, Middle and Bottom 3rd.


   Last Five      Last Four      Last Three      Last Two   
School   W   L   W   L   W   L   W   L
Trinity   36   6   31   3   24   2   16   2
Amherst   35   7   27   7   19   7   15   3
Wesle29   13   22   12   17   9   11   7
Midd   29   13   23   11   18   8   12   6
Tufts   29   13   25   9   19   7   12   6
Bates   11   31   7   27   5   21   2   16
Williams   15   27   13   21   11   15   11   7
Hamilton   11   31   11   23   9   17   6   12
Colby   10   32   8   26   7   19   4   14
Bowdoin   5   37   3   31   1   25   1   17
 
#7
Well said NED3Guy.  I think problems often arise when donor/alums have different expectations than the school administrators.  While I agree that Colby admins would be very happy winning the CBB every year, I'm not sure 3-6 will satisfy some subset of alum/donors.  Although Cosgrove's rep is so strong that he would likely be fine.  I think the fact that Tufts, Wesleyan and Middlebury have really improved has made the Maine challenge even tougher.  Historically, those games used to be more winnable than they seem to be now.  I feel like the middle of the league has kind of disappeared - or at least gotten much closer to the top than the bottom. IMHO
#8
More pressure to win everywhere than ever before.  Tufts showed exceptional patience with Civetti and it paid off in the end.  Wesleyan hired Whelan with a promise of becoming AD.  Bates fired long time coach after winning CBB several years in a row.  That wasn't good enough.  I wish the new coach the best, I really do, but he's got a tough hill to climb.  The Colby hire was the result of good fortune - right place at right time - and they got a great coach with tons of head coaching and recruiting experience .  That will only make things tougher for Bowdoin and Bates. 
#9
Men's soccer / Re: 2018 NCAA Tournament Bracket Challenge
November 09, 2018, 09:29:51 AM
Here goes!!I'll give it a shot.

ROUND OF 32 (1 pt for each correct)
Chicago, Carlton, Trinity (TX), Mary Hardin-Baylor, Luther, Gustavus,  St. Thomas, Wisc-Superior, Case Western, Capital, Kenyon, Center,  Calvin, Wisc-Play, John Carroll, Lycoming,  Tufts, Gordon, Amherst, St. Joseph's (ME), Conn. College, Springfield, Montclair State,
Haverford,  Messiah, Johns Hopkins, SUNY Cortland, Williams, Rochester (NY),  St. Lawrence, F&M, Eastern
   
ROUND OF 16 (2 pts for each correct)
Chicago,Trinity (TX), Luther, Wisc-Superior, Case Western, Kenyon, Calvin, Lycoming, Tufts,  St. Joseph's (ME), Conn. College,  Montclair State, Messiah, Williams, Rochester (NY), Eastern

ELITE 8 (4 pts for each correct)
Chicago, Luther, Kenyon, Calvin, Tufts, Montclair State, Messiah, Eastern

FINAL FOUR (8 pts for each correct)
Chicago, Kenyon, Tufts, Messiah

FINAL (16 pts for Finalists, 32 pts for Champion)
Messiah over Chicago

Goals scored in Final:  3

Tie-Breaker 1:  Overall correct number of picks
Tie-Breaker 2:  Total goals scored in final   
Tie-Breaker 3:  Correct Champion picked

#10
Quote from: amh63 on October 26, 2018, 02:55:33 PM
Several comments on fields.
Yes, the grass field at Wesleyan does not DRAIN well!.  Been there when it was not raining...but had rained sometime earlier.  The area in front of the visitors stand was sloppy and muddy.  The draining problem , IMO, was enhanced by the addition of the fine dining facility built on the former Cage end.  There is a courtyard and a retaining wall on that end too.  Note the Cage was like the one at Amherst and UMass-Amherst...all former Basketball facilities.
Yes the "mudball" Amherst-Williams game was also played on a field that did not drain well.  To correct that problem for William's new field was expensive.  Was AD Whalen the Williams' HFC coach in '95?  Too lazy to look up.

The coach in '95 was Dick Farley.

Fun fact:  Whalen had the same number of undefeated seasons at Williams as Coach Kelton (1).  Whalen had a bunch of 6-2 records surrounding an 8-0.  Kelton started at 8-0 and it was kind of downhill after that.
#11
Quote from: Trin8-0 on October 26, 2018, 09:27:33 AM
I'm typically the last one to agree with Nescacman, but I'm in full agreement that this is much ado about nothing. I'm sure many of us recall a few years ago when the Wesleyan-Bates game was moved to Trinity because the weather conditions made Andrus Field unplayable. Certainly this is a better solution than that.

I'm also shocked to hear Lumbercat calling Andrus Field overrated. It was always my favorite place to play on the road as the surrounding buildings gave it an intimate stadium feel (I was also a big fan of Whittier Field in Bowdoin). It's funny that playing on a grass field has become a novelty. In 2002 Trinity became the first NESCAC football program to make the move to field-turf; now Andrus is the only grass field left. However, given the weather situation for tomorrow we can see that it does have its drawbacks.

Tufts field is still grass as well.
#12
Men's soccer / Re: NESCAC
October 15, 2018, 12:42:59 PM
Quote from: dacac on October 15, 2018, 12:14:19 PM
Does anyone know the tiebreak rules in the event Conn and Tufts end the season with the same record and a head-to-head draw?

From the NESCAC website:

Tie Breaking Procedures

Ties will be broken as follows:

Head-to-head result (if teams play each other more than once during the regular season, the game that appears on the league schedule will be the game that is counted).

If teams tied during the regular season, or there is a 3-way or more tie, the following tie breaking procedure will be used:

    Best record among tying teams, against one another (head-to-head).
    Best conference winning percentage.
    Most conference wins (in games that are part of the conference schedule and count toward league standings).
    Comparison of results of conference games played against top 4 teams (including all teams at the 4th spot).
    Comparison of results of conference games played against top 8 teams (including all teams at the 8th spot).
    Comparison of results of conference games played against conference teams in rank order.
    Comparisons shall be made one team at a time starting with the highest ranked team.
    If the tie remains after comparing results against the highest ranked team, the results against the next team in rank order shall be used. This process is continued until a winner is determined.
    Goal differential up to but not exceeding three goals for each conference game that is part of the conference schedule (e.g., if a team wins 1-0, the team's goal differential would be +1. If a team wins 2-1, goal differential would be +1. If a team wins 4-0, the goal differential would be +3).
    Coin flip (or similar random action involving all tied teams).

Note: In case of ties among three or more schools, the criteria above will be applied in order until a team is (or teams are) separated. At that point, the process begins anew (returning to the first criteria) with the remaining teams. The process is continued until the tie is eventually broken. In cases where only a random action will break the tie of three or more teams, the random action will be applied to all teams involved in the tie. For example, if three teams are tied and only a random action (pulling names out of a hat) will break the tie, each name will be pulled and seeded in order of being pulled. Also, in the event that there are two (or more) groups of teams tied at different spots in the standings and the only criteria left that can be used to break those ties is a coin flip/random action, the coin flip/random action used to break the tie of one group (to put teams in rank order) will not affect the tie breaking procedures of the other group(s) of tied teams.

#13
Quote from: NESCACFBFAN on September 25, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Correction to Cardcoachmac's recap;  the wes short punt with a Tufts 20 yard return resulted in a Tufts FG.  The Tufts 28 yard TD pass was the result of a 9 play, 66 yard drive.

I watched the Wes-Tufts game on Jumbocast (it was hard to do).  Cardcoachmac's recap with the above correction was on the money.  Wes moved the ball more consistently but Tufts D grew really stout in the red zone.  They made some big plays on that side of the ball.  Tufts offense struggled on the ground, including McDonald but they made just enough big plays through the air to score some points.  One thing that surprised me was when Wesleyan drove early in the fourth quarter and had a first and goal from the five, they hiked it directly to Estevez three plays in a row.  The first two plays had Picirillo was on the sideline and each gained one yard.  On the third play they brought the QB back in, but then shifted pre-snap to send Picirillo out wide and hiked to Estevez again.  The play lost six yards.  This led to the missed 27 yard FG.  It seemed like they may have gotten a little too cute in that instance, but second guessing is easy from the couch:)
#14
Quote from: Nescacman on September 25, 2018, 09:23:29 AM
Quote from: nescac1 on September 24, 2018, 01:48:07 PM
Question: folks here have mentioned that the schedule will start rotating.  For the most part sounds like a good thing to me so that weeks 1-5 no longer feature (typically) one exciting game and four egregious mismatches.  But will that effect the end of season rivalries?  Would stink to no longer have Williams-Amherst, Wesleyan-Trinity, and CBB rivalry games to end the season ...

Our sources tell us that the traditional "rivalry" games...TTUN/LMS, Wes/HS, Wes/ TTUN, C-B-B, will not be affected in terms of timing...

It seems to me that, if the CBB games are played in the last three weekends (like always) that really limits how much easier you can make the earlier part of their schedules.  Those are generally the most winnable games on their schedules (plus Hamilton). 

I will say that one challenge has been that teams that have historically been in the middle of the league (Tufts, Wesleyan, Middlebury) have really upped their games in recent years.  When you add the traditional powers: Trinity, Amherst and a now revived Williams, that leaves six tough to brutal games that have to be played somewhere.  Five of them plus Hamilton will fill the first six games of the schedule for Colby, Bates and Bowdoin if they insist on the CBB games staying at the end of the season. 
#15
Quote from: Caz Bombers on September 11, 2018, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: gridiron on September 11, 2018, 07:17:59 PM
Great question, Frank. Since Colby and Bates used to rotate and not play Trinity each year, there were fewer matchups. However, I know none of the three Maine teams have beaten Trinity since sometime prior to the year 2000.

per Trinity website:

last loss to Bowdoin - 1998
last loss to Colby - 1995
last loss to Bates - 1979

It's worth noting that  in 1998, Trinity went 2-6.  It was the last year of Don Miller long career and he had lost his fastball by then.  It was one of the few mediocre Trinity teams in the last 50 years.  In 1979, they also went 2-6.  Those were the ONLY two years when Trinity was under .500 since 1979!!  Pretty impressive.  The Colby win in '95 was against a solid (6-2) Trinity team.