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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2005, 01:42:46 pm »
Tough week for the Saints...they will go back to work for Bethany though.

Anyone have any analysis of the Bison?  Just wanting to know what I should expect...
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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2005, 04:15:17 pm »
This is a test

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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2005, 07:39:44 pm »
Bethany will 3 step and run the ball at you a little  bit. That is what they did last year. However, I am unsure of what they will do this year. They had a rotation of QB's last year who seemed to find the other team alot last year. They had a decent size frosh running back who ran hard when he was not hurt. There defense had a few bright spots but was dim for the most part. I did not see the 1st game, but I am glad they won and hope to see them challenge in the PAC this year. However I think they are still a few years away.
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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2005, 07:56:38 am »
Thanks PittTBCW
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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2005, 10:27:30 pm »
No Problem Saintsfan!!

Any predictions for this Saturday involving PAC foes????


Here are mine!!!


W&J over Hanover
Thiel over OWU
Thomas More over Bethany
Car. Mellon over GC
Alleg. over Westmin


Glad to see PAC play begins in week #2!!!

Good Luck to all PAC teams this week

Hopefully I can make one of the games this week
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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2005, 05:04:46 pm »
Impressive showing for W&J against Hanover today.  I left while it was 49-6 Presidents, but  listened to the rest on the way home. 

W&J set records in total offense and rushing  totals, but the thing I was most impressed with was the team defensively.  They clamped down a lot better and quicker than games I watched last year against  much lesser competition.

That said, I still don't know what Hanover presents as an opponent.  They used to be quite competitive, but that was far from the case today.  I have been critical of the defensive front in the past, but they should roll with them through their schedule. 

The only thing standing in front of this team is their own complacency from a regular season standpoint.  I still don't think they have the 'big uglies' to advance deep into the D3 playoffs without  the drubbing they took last year, but it's only September.  A lot can happen. 

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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2005, 09:23:37 am »
Record-setting offensive performance Saturday, then Team of the Week honors on Tuesday...

Congrats to the Presidents Offensive Line.
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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2005, 04:05:55 pm »
You would think with W&J playing Allegheny (a former PAC member and a team that usually give the President fits), this week, there would be a little more discussion on this board. A 56-20 rout of Hanover and a similar schlacking of Tri-State does not guarantee an easy time against the Gators. W&J's defense did an awful lot of bending (440 yards in passing) it didn't break. I am sure Allegheny paid notice to that.

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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2005, 08:57:13 pm »
With all due respect professor, those stats are misleading on several different levels.  Statistics are like the bible:  You can use it to support any argument you wish. 

First of all, Hanover runs a spread/trips receiver offense (it may have a fancier name, but in essence, that's what it is) that is based solely on the pass.  Hanover I believe had only 30 yards rushing.

Secondly, the score was 35-0 W&J at halftime, and most of the game was Hanover trying to get something....anything...going.  They had 66 pass attempts, and the defensive play from the Presidents in the second half seemed more content on keeping plays in front of them, and the clock running. 

Running the ball and controlling the clock is the way to play with W&J in my opinion, and having the talent up front to do it offensively, while keeping their offensive on the sidelines.  Allegheny is 0-2, and although they will present more of a challenge than Hanover in my opinion and has a number of WPIAL kids on their roster (possibly some extra incentive for some kids 'coming home'), it will be an uphill climb for the Gators Saturday night.

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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2005, 09:53:20 am »
All valid points, burghboy. Just trying to stir some chatter. Would like to see the PAC pages reflect double digits, like most of the other boards

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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2005, 11:23:33 am »
If you check out the NCAC pick 'em board you will see that the spread is substantial at -24.5 for the Allegheny and W&J game.  I haven't tallied it up but the spread seems to be generating a pretty even split in picks over there - and I think that there are a number of fans there who see the NCAC through rose colored glasses.   Judging from Gheny's performance so far, I don't see them keeping it close.  Maybe they can cover the spread if W&J puts the game away early and gives up scores in exchange for clock time as seems to be the case with the Hanover game. 

Any thoughts on the other games?

I see it as:
Bethany at Defiance -  Bethany, I can't pick a team that hasn't scored yet this year.

Westmin at Hiram - clearly Westmin.  Hiram seems intent on working to bring back the D3 longest losing streak back to the NCAC.

Manchester at Waynesburg - I reluctantly pick Waynesburg.  After the Denison collapse I may be wrong - but Waynesburg should be able to handle them if they play defense all 4 quarters.  Maybe Manchester will be tired from all that O from last week

Thiel at Bluffton - Thiel - Bluffton does seem to have their program going in the right direction - but Thiel returns too much talent to let them take one off of them.  Thiel's secondary will make the needed adjustments after last weeks all-too-close win over OWU.

Grove City at Thomas More - Thomas More, although Grove City has been a surprise this year keeping their games close.  Hearing GCC leading at halftime for the CMU game was a shock.

Looking back I see I have partisanly picked all the non-conference games for the PAC.  It just doesn't look like the non-conference competition is that strong this week.

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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2005, 10:06:15 pm »
Chris Edwards sets new NCAA Division III record, completing his first 21 passes, leading W&J to 45-21 win over Allegheny.

Edwards also threw for a career best 419 yards.

Ryan Mendel rushed for 100 yards, his third straight game to do so.

Allegheny scored to tie it at 14 with 6:24 to play in the second.  In the next 7 1/2 minutes of game time, W&J scored three touchdowns to go up by 21.

Jon Miller, R.J. Soeder and Aaron Krepps all had big receiving nights.
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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2005, 09:24:51 pm »
Look for Saints LB Mark Carlisle to be named PAC Defensive Player of the Week for the 2nd consecutive time--he had 15 tackles, three for losses, two fumbles caused, one sack and a quarterback pressure.

The Saints defense led them to the win scoring two TD's. As is the norm for any non-Washington & Jefferson team, the defense is ahead of the offense early on in the season.   Hopefully the offense gets back on track on Saturday as they travel to Westminster....

Meanwhile--after warming up against Tri-State and Hanover, it seems the offensive machine in Washington, PA is in mid-season form.  Its scary what they did to Allegheny yesterday....
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
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Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2005, 09:27:10 pm »
oldphart,

How about that spread?  The NCAC spreadmaster (wally) had a tremendous week....I believe he may have made a deal with the devil.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
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Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
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Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2005, 10:19:26 pm »
SaintsFAN - Wally did an AMAZING job with the spread this past week.  I am going to reserve judgement on satanic influences. However, if Wally's Wabash runs the table in the NCAC this season ...   ;D