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Re: The Top 10 South Region teams of the D3football.com Era
« Reply #60 on: December 29, 2016, 07:40:14 pm »
Here is the update on Top 10 South Region teams since the creation of the Pools system in 1999.

1) 2016 UMHB -- (15-0) Beat UW-Oshkosh 10-7 in the Stagg. Had a good run to Salem beating Redlands, Linfield, Wheaton IL, Mount Union in the CRUthedral.

1) 2)  2004 UMHB -- (13-2) Did it Ginger Rogers style.  (Refers to the old joke, who was the better dancer...Fred Astaire or Ginger Rogers?  Rogers did everything that Astaire did, backwards and in high heels.)  Was a Pool C bid, back when there were only 3.  Beat #7 Trinity by 29, #3 HSU by 14, #5 W&J by 36 and #1 Mount Union by 3 on the road.  Lost to Elliott's #2 Linfield in the Stagg, 21-28.

2) 3)  2001 Bridgewater -- (13-1)  #1 South Region seed.  Made the trip down to Salem and lost to MUC in primetime on Saturday night, 27-30.  That night, who would have thought this to be the pinnacle of ODAC football for the next decade plus?  (Thank Heaven for Stone Station!)

4) 2013 UMHB -- (13-1) Lost 16-15 in the CRUthedral in the Semis to ultimate winner UWW who blew out Mount Union the next weekend. (Ouch!)

3) 5)  2012 UMHB -- (13-1)  How close was this team to being the finest South Region team to date?  How about a grind-it-out/smashmouth Cru-style clock-consuming scoring drive in the late 4th quarter?  UMHB had 1st and 10 on the UMHB 22 with 3:34 left in the 4th quarter with the score tied 35-35.  The team that "had the ball last" won.  UMU forced a 3-and-out, got the ball "last" and then scored on a 6-play 71-yd drive to go ahead 42-35 with 0:05 left in the game.  The 48-35 final score misrepresents the closest of this game.  (This game was hailed as the "true #1 vs #2" when the brackets were released.  UMU and UMHB finish 1-2 in the Final Top 25 poll.  UMU beat St Thomas 28-10 in Stagg XL.)

3) 4) 6) 2007 UMHB -- (12-2) #4 South Region seed only because they had the "cojones" (a little Texas lingo there) to schedule a home-and-home with the 2005 Stagg Bowl runner-up two years before the game was played.  Defeated a strong #6 seed (sic) Trinity team for the "Barbed Wire and Mesquite" (unofficial title of the Texas Sub-bracket), and annihilated a #8-seeded NCWC team that won its first playoff game ever at #1 seed Washington and Jefferson.  (NCWC was only in its 4th year of play!)  The Cru avenged their losses at Wesley, 27-10, in the Regional Finals.  In the semi-finals, UMHB dug a big hole in losing the regular season UWW game and then lost to the 2007 Stagg Bowl champs, 16-7 in a great game notably for the "Texas unfriendly" conditions in Whitewater in the semis.

3, 4, 5) 7)  2002 Trinity -- (14-1)  Beat UMHB 48-38, W&J 45-10, won at Bridgewater 38-32, beat St John's 41-34.  Star QB celebrates too hard on Paseo del Rio and Stagg is history.  (MUC wins 48-7, on a very windy day).

5, 6T) 8T) 2010 Wesley -- (12-1)  #1 Seed overall.  Beat Muhlenberg 53-14, Montclair State 44-14, and UMHB 19-9 before losing to Champion UW-Whitewater 7-27.

6T) 8T) 2011 Wesley -- (12-2)  An early season loss to NJAC champion Kean 31-28 put Wesley into the #2 South Region seed. The Wolverines hosted Hobart 35-28 and Linfield 49-35 and then came to Texas and beat UMHB in the Region Finals, 27-24.  Wesley lost at Stagg runner-up Mount Union (UMU), 28-21.  Were their playoff opponents in 2011 better than 2010? I think so.  Too close for me to call between the 2011 and the 2010 Wesley teams.

4, 5, 6, 9, 10)  1999 Trinity -- (12-1) #1 Seed and gets bye.  Beat Western Maryland and  HSU (40-33) before losing to Stagg winner Pacific Lutheran, 28-49 in Semis.

5, 6T, 7T, 9T , 11T)  2000 HSU -- (12-1)  Had the bye and #1 seed in South and is #2 in the playoffs.  Beat Western Maryland 32-10 and Trinity 33-30.  Lost to Finalist SJU, 14-38 in Abilene.

6T, 7T, 9T , 11T)  2008 UMHB -- (12-2) #2 Seed in the "Millsaps" (South) Region.  Defeated HSU 20-18 in Belton in the regular season and then third team All-American Alan Munoz kicked a last-minute FG to defeat #3 seed HSU in another "Bracketgate" game, 38-35.  UMHB then disposed of Wesley 46-14 and W&J 63-7 in the next two rounds.  The Semi-finals will be forever remembered for the south wind that dramatically impacted the game.  UW-Whitewater kicked off in the first half and netted a safety and field goal.  A UMHB kickoff into the estimated 30+ MPH south wind to start the second half touched the ground at UMHB 41 and then was blown back to the UMHB 24, where UMHB covered it.  This "legal kick" was missed by the officials. They gave UWW the ball at the UMHB 24.  UWW quickly pushed the lead to 18-10 with 14:53 left in the 3Q, and the course of the game was changed.  Stagg finalist UWW won 39-13.



8, 9, 11, 13)  2008 HSU (9-2) I believe that I must slip #3 seed HSU into this slot, by virtue of the games that they gave UMHB on the road.  UMHB's special teams made the difference in both games, and the margin of defeat is in the realm of "HFA", Home Field Advantage.  I slip HSU ahead of the 2005 Wesley team because of how dominant UMHB was versus the rest of the bracket.
 
6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 14)  2005 Wesley -- (12-2)  Cinderella.  Gets a Pool B bid.  Beats Ferrum, wins at UMHB, beats Bridgewater and then messes up the shoe thing on the snow/ice at Whitewater, 6-58.

7, 8, 10, 11, 13,, 15 )  2006 Wesley -- (13-1)  #1 Seed. Beat Dickinson, CMU and UMHB before losing at UW-W (7-44) in the proper shoes.

8, 9, 11, 12, 14, 16)  1999 HSU -- (12-1) Beat WashU and W&J before losing (33-40) at Trinity in South Region finals.

9, 10, 12, 13, 15, 17)  2002 UMHB -- (10-1)  "Bracketgate" game.  UMHB is #5 in polls and #3 South Region Seed.  Sent to Trinity (#4 in polls and #2 South Region seed) in the first round because of geographic proximity.  Loses at Trinity 38-48.

10, 11, 13, 14, 16, 18)  2003 Bridgewater -- (12-2) Squeaked out of a weak but very balanced South Region and then lost at MUC 0-66.

(Revised after the 2016 Stagg Bowl.  Thanks for reading.)

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Re: The Top 10 South Region teams of the D3football.com Era
« Reply #61 on: December 30, 2016, 01:21:58 am »
So, what changes did Trinity have in their program after 2002 the led them just another baseball team?

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Re: The Top 10 South Region teams of the D3football.com Era
« Reply #62 on: December 30, 2016, 01:11:13 pm »
Ralph, thanks for taking the time to update that list, it was fun to read.  I know that there was very high praise by the UWW players for some of those UMHB teams, especially 2007 and 2013. 

d3jason,
You posted that you are still puzzled by the decision to kick a field goal on 4th and 3 in that 2013 game.  Are you saying you don't understand why he made that decision or just that you would not have made that decision?  I know Coach F took a lot of heat for that call, but I can certainly understand the logic to it.  The case can be made that UMHB had a better chance of winning by kicking two field goals than they did by scoring one touchdown.   

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Re: The Top 10 South Region teams of the D3football.com Era
« Reply #63 on: December 30, 2016, 02:23:08 pm »
This is a really cool idea (and maybe gives me an idea for a future study).

I decided to take a look at the 18 teams you have listed here, and ranked them according to their ratings in my system. I decided to use the average of the peak rating, final rating, and average rating throughout the season. This year's UMHB was pretty clearly the best, but 2001 Bridgewater wasn't anywhere near the top (they may be the worst team to reach the Stagg Bowl since '99).

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Re: The Top 10 South Region teams of the D3football.com Era
« Reply #64 on: December 30, 2016, 09:49:42 pm »
Thanks for the comment HansenRatings.

I first made the listing in 2006. At that time, there were only 3 South Region teams who had made the Stagg Bowl (in the "Modern Era".). I was impressed that they almost beat MUC that year, losing 30-27.  If you are calling 2001 BC the worst team to make the Stagg Bowl, then the 2001 Mount Union team is probably the worst team to win in the D3football.com era.

I will appreciate your running your computer model on the years of the D3football.com website.

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Re: The Top 10 South Region teams of the D3football.com Era
« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2017, 01:57:46 pm »
So, what changes did Trinity have in their program after 2002 the led them just another baseball team?

Trinity had a leadership change around 2000 and the president of that era, John Brazil, IMO did not support athletics as did his predecessor.   The program declined markedly under his decade of, um, leadership, and has never recovered (and possibly never will with UMHB being such a draw).  The current president, who started last year seems to support athletics, but until they do something with the sub-par facilities I won't believe football is getting the support it deserves.  Stadium plans are out there and the overhaul is supposedly next up after the Bell Center (basketball/natatorium/workout facilities) upgrades complete.

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Re: The Top 10 South Region teams of the D3football.com Era
« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2017, 08:07:23 pm »
THX RB

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Re: The Top 10 South Region teams of the D3football.com Era
« Reply #67 on: January 17, 2017, 09:10:07 pm »
Ralph, thanks for taking the time to update that list, it was fun to read.  I know that there was very high praise by the UWW players for some of those UMHB teams, especially 2007 and 2013. 

d3jason,
You posted that you are still puzzled by the decision to kick a field goal on 4th and 3 in that 2013 game.  Are you saying you don't understand why he made that decision or just that you would not have made that decision?  I know Coach F took a lot of heat for that call, but I can certainly understand the logic to it.  The case can be made that UMHB had a better chance of winning by kicking two field goals than they did by scoring one touchdown.   

I felt with UWW's ability to pound the rock, that they would never get the ball back. They didn't. (Well, I guess they did with a second left.)

One play to get to the Stagg Bowl! Go get it!. You miss and you still have them backed up where they have to play more conservatively. You stop them inside the 10 and you have a chance at better field position. I seem to remember a play action pass to convert on third down to a behemoth TE. Does LL call that inside his ten?

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Re: The Top 10 South Region teams of the D3football.com Era
« Reply #68 on: August 08, 2017, 09:51:58 pm »
Checking in as we roll towards the start of the season.  Looking at the great teams since 1999 poll system was cool.  NIce work guys ... some great teams in the south that couldn't quite win it (MU & WW in the way for the most part).

How about a look at the top south programs since the poll systm started.  Not a ranking, but here are ones to consider:

Wesley
UMHB
Trinity
W&J
Thomas More
Muhlenberg
Johns Hopkins
Hampden-Sydney

I'm sure I'm missing some obvious ones to consider.  There were some very good Bridgewater and W. Maryland/McDaniel teams early in this era for instance, but were they good long enough since 99 to be included?

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Re: The Top 10 South Region teams of the D3football.com Era
« Reply #69 on: August 08, 2017, 11:46:37 pm »
One scrappy program that is new is Southwestern. Newest program in the central/South Texas region, has handled Trinity et all and was the last SCAC conference champs. While not as old and established as the others one cannot discount that in such a shortish time they did make a splash in their area. This season they will be in ASC and facing some of the teams they did during their SCAC seasons HSU, ETBU and some others I would not count them out to stir some things up in ASC and, they make their games just fun to watch.
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