FB: Region 3 fan poll

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   I like Wesley in the East this year, instead of Mt Union......a pefect fit.....the South will be a bloodbath...undefeated warriors...

Ralph Turner

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Going with 5 ballots this week...

1)  UMHB                                (5)   50  1,1,1,1,1
2)  Wesley                                     44   2,2,2,2,3
3)  Thomas More                             36  2,3,3,5,6
4)  JHU                                           33  3,3,4,4,8
5T) Centre                                      27  4 5,5,6,8
5T) McMurry                                    27  4,4,6,7,7
7)   Trinity                                       22  5,6,7,7,8
8)   LaCollege                                  21  5,6,7,8,8
9)   Wash & Lee                              10   9,9,9,9,9
10T) Birmingham-Southern               2   10,10,x,x,x
10T) Huntingdon                              2  10,10,x,x,x

RV)  Hampden-Sydney                      1   10,x,x,x,x

SaintsFAN

I didn't know TMC's SOS was so low... didn't realize it.  They have 9 games that they must schedule with the PAC and Mount St. Joe, who are down this year.  Plus with W&J having an off year... I should've seen it.  The only hope they have is for Hanover to win the HCAC by winning this week and next at Franklin. 

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Speaking of SOS, does anybody have a guess as to the amount of D3 schools that play in football conferences that take up 9 or more of their regular season games?

jknezek

Quote from: crufootball on November 03, 2011, 11:58:18 AM
Speaking of SOS, does anybody have a guess as to the amount of D3 schools that play in football conferences that take up 9 or more of their regular season games?
Easy to figure out, just a little time consuming. All the conferences are listed here:
http://d3football.com/conferences

Here's what I come up with:
CC
MWC
NJAC
OAC
UMAC

They are all 10 team conferences so you have a total of 50 teams in conferences that have 9 game in-conference schedules.

jknezek

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Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 02, 2011, 09:48:18 PM
Going with 5 ballots this week...

1)  UMHB                                (5)   50  1,1,1,1,1
2)  Wesley                                     44   2,2,2,2,3
3)  Thomas More                             36  2,3,3,5,6
4)  JHU                                           33  3,3,4,4,8
5T) Centre                                      27  4 5,5,6,8
5T) McMurry                                    27  4,4,6,7,7
7)   Trinity                                       22  5,6,7,7,8
8)   LaCollege                                  21  5,6,7,8,8
9)   Wash & Lee                              10   9,9,9,9,9
10T) Birmingham-Southern               2   10,10,x,x,x
10T) Huntingdon                              2  10,10,x,x,x

RV)  Hampden-Sydney                      1   10,x,x,x,x
Is it me or is there an extra 8 on the board and we're short a 6?

ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: jknezek on November 03, 2011, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: crufootball on November 03, 2011, 11:58:18 AM
Speaking of SOS, does anybody have a guess as to the amount of D3 schools that play in football conferences that take up 9 or more of their regular season games?
Easy to figure out, just a little time consuming. All the conferences are listed here:
http://d3football.com/conferences

Here's what I come up with:
CC
MWC
NJAC
OAC
UMAC

They are all 10 team conferences so you have a total of 50 teams in conferences that have 9 game in-conference schedules.

Also worth nothing: the NEFC schools only play 7 required "conference" games, but with their two-division setup, geographic proximity, and equal competitive footing, they tend to schedule NEFC teams from the other division for their "non-conference" games.  That sort of inbreeding also leads to a falsely inflated SOS (for instance, UW-Oshkosh is currently 52nd in SOS with a schedule that includes Mount Union, UWW, and the rest of the monsters in the WIAC, while NEFC member Endicott is currently 53rd).
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Pat Coleman

I believe it's eight required conference games, everyone in the division plus one mandated crossover game. Not sure what the purpose of the crossover game is since they have a title game. Doesn't seem necessary to have the crossover to choose a champ, anyway.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 03, 2011, 01:42:31 PM
I believe it's eight required conference games, everyone in the division plus one mandated crossover game. Not sure what the purpose of the crossover game is since they have a title game. Doesn't seem necessary to have the crossover to choose a champ, anyway.


Totally Agree 100%. Can not add anything to that.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: jknezek on November 03, 2011, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 02, 2011, 09:48:18 PM
Going with 5 ballots this week...

1)  UMHB                                (5)   50  1,1,1,1,1
2)  Wesley                                     44   2,2,2,2,3
3)  Thomas More                             36  2,3,3,5,6
4)  JHU                                           33  3,3,4,4,8
5T) Centre                                      27  4 5,5,6,8
5T) McMurry                                    27  4,4,7,7,8
7)   Trinity                                       22  5,6,7,7,8
8)   LaCollege                                  21  5,6,7,8,8
9)   Wash & Lee                              10   9,9,9,9,9
10T) Birmingham-Southern               2   10,10,x,x,x
10T) Huntingdon                              2  10,10,x,x,x

RV)  Hampden-Sydney                      1   10,x,x,x,x
Is it me or is there an extra 8 on the board and we're short a 6?
Probably is. My notes are at home.  I will check tonight.  +1!

Ralph Turner

Quote from: jknezek on November 03, 2011, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: crufootball on November 03, 2011, 11:58:18 AM
Speaking of SOS, does anybody have a guess as to the amount of D3 schools that play in football conferences that take up 9 or more of their regular season games?
Easy to figure out, just a little time consuming. All the conferences are listed here:
http://d3football.com/conferences

Here's what I come up with:
CC
MWC
NJAC
OAC
UMAC

They are all 10 team conferences so you have a total of 50 teams in conferences that have 9 game in-conference schedules.
Of the top of my head, the 9-team conferences include:

ASC
HCAC
IIAC
MAC
NCAC but does not play round robin.
Pres AC



ExTartanPlayer

Of note, I believe that NCAC is going to full round-robin in 2012 with the addition of DePauw.
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Updated scores...

1)  UMHB                                (5)   50  1,1,1,1,1    Beat Sul Ross 77-13
2)  Wesley                                     44   2,2,2,2,3  Beat Apprentice 55-0
3)  Thomas More                             36  2,3,3,5,6  Lost to Waynesburg 26-23
4)  JHU                                           33  3,3,4,4,8  Beat F&M 28-23
5T) Centre                                      27  4 5,5,6,8  Lost to Trinity 20-14
5T) McMurry                                    27  4,4,6,7,7  Beat LaCollege 49-28
7)   Trinity                                       22  5,6,7,7,8  Beat Centre 20-14
8)   LaCollege                                  21  5,6,7,8,8  Lost to McMurry 49-28
9)   Wash & Lee                              10   9,9,9,9,9  Lost to H-SC 42-35
10T) Birmingham-Southern               2   10,10,x,x,x  Beat Rhodes 54-0
10T) Huntingdon                              2  10,10,x,x,x  Hosts LaGrange

RV)  Hampden-Sydney                      1   10,x,x,x,x  Beat W&L 42-35

jknezek

Lots of possibilities for the bracket, but I think the following is the most likely:

TMC at UMHB
McM at Trinity

CNU at Wesley
H-SC at JHU

Centre and TMC cannot go to JHU (588 miles) or Wesley (600+ miles). So they make sense to fly to UMHB even though they will have a higher SOS than CNU. My bracket assumes that Centre gets shafted on the Pool C, which I see as possible. The above configuration sets up a flight in round 1 and 3, but avoids flights in round 2. Otherwise you really need to send Wesley or JHU to the East, making the bracket look like this:

CNU at UMHB
McM at Trinity

H-SC at Wesley/JHU
TMC at Centre (or vice versa. reward the AQ or the SOS, committee's pick)

The problem with this is it probably sets up a first, second and third round flight (TMC/Centre to Wesley/JHU in Round 2, round 3 flight is inevitable)