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Men's soccer / Re: CCIW
« Last post by CardinalAlum on Today at 08:40:00 pm »
I haven't seen the play so I probably shouldn't weigh in but what you have described is a very common play that happens in soccer all the time where you anticipate that a player receiving a throw in will play it back to the thrower and immediately pressure them. This happens all the time and does not reveal a player's intent to get retribution. This is a heads up anticipation play that happens at every game about the age of 14.

Now like I said I didn't see the play and maybe he crushed into the guy and it warranted a yellow. But your post makes it seem like his 10 yard to sprint ignoring Olsen to tackle the thrower is what made it a yellow and if thats the case then its a bad call.

Yes, I know that it's de rigueur in soccer to close on a player throwing in the ball in anticipation of a return pass, same as is the case in basketball. What I think you may have missed, though, is the fact that Fairwood, as the player involved in the touchline entanglement that led to that throw-in, immediately ran out from the touchline ten yards onto the pitch before pulling off a high-speed U-ie and bearing back down on Lundeen. In other words, he wasn't some random player in the middle of the pitch who saw an uncovered man throwing in the ball and ran in to challenge him. Fairwood deliberately ran away and then came back for the obvious purpose of building up a head of steam before crashing into Lundeen, rather than simply sticking close to the touchline and marking Lundeen as would typically be the case.

Here’s a link to video I saw.  Completely agree that playing on one yellow, you have to be more careful throwing yourself around and there’s the tone of the game that you mentioned.  That part obviously doesn’t show on video.  You had to have been there to take the temperature of the game and official.  Again, this is one view.   

https://twitter.com/nccmsoc/status/1449724379600990208?s=21

Thanks for the video.  Pretty clear yellow to me by running through the play and his foot going downward. 

Is that the official NC Men's soccer handle?  If so, sorry, but that's pretty embarrassing and they should have repercussions from the conference.  If not, no big deal and I enjoy fan pages.


Unfortunately, it is and I do agree it’s not a good look.  Wreaks of sour grapes.
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NMan

As usual, a fine weekend recap.

I share your thoughts on the whole Tufts setup. Forget tailgating and trying to park there is a nightmare. I recognize they are are larger college with an urban setting which creates issues we don't see at other campuses in the league. Tufts is different than the other NESCACS. If they formed the NESCAC today they may not be included. Always been rumored to move to the UAA but I won't start that whole thing up again.

Agree on the Ellis Oval field, beautiful new turf but the track moves everything back too far from the fielld. At least Tufts provides decent visiting stands with some elevation so you can see the field. At Colby the stands are even further from the field and they
provide a small bleacher with about 10 rows. The problem is you can't see the field over the players bench so the first 4 or 5 rows are useless and always empty.

Attended the Bowdoin Amherst game and came away with some observations.

Got there early, watched Boel closely in warm-ups. If you didn't know him and walked into a camp or clinic and saw him throw the ball you might not give him a second look. Really different delivery, ball kind of comes out from the side, has to bring the ball up from the hip. Release almost like Phillip Rivers. This, combined with his size- (they are good to him in the Bowdoin program) and you can see the kid falling off recruiting radars.

Then the whistle blew and under game conditions the kid was superb. He gets it away very quickly with some zip. Very accurate and sees the whole field. Don't think he missed more than 2-3 throws all day. Checked down, changed receivers and delivered the ball unbelievably well despite the funky mechanics. Eyes up all day. Rush was minimal but he knew just when to move around in the pocket or roll out.

The prior week I watched Berluti at Tufts.
Totally different package- Berluiti wins the beauty contest and has more conventional throwing mechanics. Very different package.

However, I can't make a real comparison because the 2 young QBs faced different situations.
Bates blitzed, stunted and applied relentless pressure on Berluti all day. The kid didn't have much chance to set his feet most of the time.
Conversely Amherst didn't pressure Boel much at all. They sat in a cover 2 zone all day with a 3-4 man rush. Didn't much of anything in the way of blitzes, games. The great EJ Mills dared the kid to beat them he took the Mammoths apart. I don't see why Amherst refused to pressure the young kid. They made it too easy for Boel......Maybe EJ was watching Boel in warmups too.

At the end of the day Bothe of these kids will be fine NESCAC QBs but if I were Bowdoin I would expect a lot more pressure on Boel after he showed that you can't sit back in a zone with conventional pass rush and not get hurt by this kid.

Overall I couldn't believe the way Amherst came unglued in the second half. I couldn't believe this performance by the Purple, unprecedented to me. EJ really lost it with the refs later in the 4th over a false start penalty. If you've never heard EJ yell at the Refs it's like a desperate shreik- like a horror movie. It typically manifests itself later in games where the Mammoths have a chance to lose. Heard the same thing at Bates a few weeks before with the game in the balance late.

Last observation on the weekend. How confident can the Cards feel with their last 3 wins by a total of 7 points over 3 teams with a combined total of 2 wins. Birds in huge trouble- they can't stop the pass and not much better against the run.

Thanks Lumber…

Berlutti and Boel are exhibits 1a and 1b why you recruit kids from high caliber, non-public schools like Xavarian and Bergen Catholic…these kids are ready to go day one…

One big difference between the two that you failed to mention Lumber is that Berlutti is a much better runner/scrambler than Boel….that’s why we give him the slight edge…

As far as Wes is concerned, they were up by two TDs and ready to go up by 3 on the Jumbo’s when the refs went to work…if not for the officiating, Wes wins by 3-4 touchdowns, easy…and they played without Thomas Elkourey (the kid who was on ESPN with “the catch” 2 weeks earlier) and many defensive starters who will be back this week….we wouldn’t worry too much about them…they’ve won 13 of their last 14 games and 8 in a row…Cardiac Cards…

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Sure. Let’s go with that.

Congrats to Nieves!
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While I’m fine with NPU getting the POW honors due to their historic win, the idea that anyone had a better day on defense than Jake Holaday for Wheaton, with his team leading 10 tackles and 3.5 sacks vs Carroll is far fetched and illustrates that these awards are not (and never have been)based on merit across the league.
It's hard to do an apples-to-oranges comparison when weighing the impact from two different defensive positions.  DL Holliday had an outstanding game based on those stats, but DB Nieves did, too, with eight tackles (two for loss -- so in essence on par with a sack), two forced turnovers, and an INT to secure the victory.

Hmmmm. I preface my rebuttal by again stating I’m ok with Nieves getting the award. If you can point me to the last DT to lead their team in total tackle in a game, let alone a single DL getting 3.5 sacks in one game, I’d be happy to defer to your analysis. On the flip side, a DB with 8+ tackles and an INT is an almost weekly occurrence in the league.  I won’t even mention the hypocrisy of naming a Defensive player whose team gave up over 30 pts.

The point is POW for the CCIW is not based on merit across the league. See the fact that two of the nations leading defenses have had multiple players on the D3 POW in weeks the CCIW did not honor those players.

Nieves' contributions seemed to directly impact NPU's result in a close game and while Holaday's stats are great, the score differential is just too much perhaps?
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South Region / Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Last post by Ron Boerger on Today at 08:22:00 pm »
Preseason top 25 is out, and Austin College has a challenging November, to say the least. Three of their first five opponents are ranked in the top 15 (in order of when they play: #15 UTD, #4 Whitman, #2 ETBU), as well as Rhodes, who is receiving votes. Lots of chances to make a statement for the 'Roos in November.

Have to say that I'm a bit surprised at the SCAC's lack of presence in the poll - didn't expect top 10 but nobody in top 25 is a surprise.  Trinity lost three to graduation but only two saw much playing time, of which Jordan Rudd, who was first team all-SCAC and conference DPOY, the most significant loss.  Everyone else is back from last year's team with the exception of a player who never set foot on the court.  Colorado lost two, the big one being SCAC POTY McKenzee Gertz, but they too return everyone from last year's young team and have a boatload of new talent that will make its presence known as the season progresses if last year is any indication.  I guess Austin suffered the most, losing all-SCAC performers Reagan Chiaverini and Ally Longaker along with several other seniors though all-SCAC Kacie West is returning for a super senior year.

Trinity's first game is against ETBU (at the UMHB tournament), RV UMHB is next, then #14 HSU; three lesser opponents (McMurry and a weekend tournament in Oregon) followed by nearly a month off.   The next game after the break is the conference opener in Sherman on Dec 17. 

It's going to be interesting to see what the coaches' poll says when it comes out next month.  Can Dallas continue their upward momentum?   How does TLU fare without the calming presence of Mel Dixon?  Does Southwestern come back from the wilderness after four years of declining performance, or do the Pirates look for a new coach if this year is as disastrous as last year's 2-7?  And what about Schreiner, St. Thomas, and Centenary?
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While I’m fine with NPU getting the POW honors due to their historic win, the idea that anyone had a better day on defense than Jake Holaday for Wheaton, with his team leading 10 tackles and 3.5 sacks vs Carroll is far fetched and illustrates that these awards are not (and never have been)based on merit across the league.
It's hard to do an apples-to-oranges comparison when weighing the impact from two different defensive positions.  DL Holliday had an outstanding game based on those stats, but DB Nieves did, too, with eight tackles (two for loss -- so in essence on par with a sack), two forced turnovers, and an INT to secure the victory.

Hmmmm. I preface my rebuttal by again stating I’m ok with Nieves getting the award. If you can point me to the last DT to lead their team in total tackle in a game, let alone a single DL getting 3.5 sacks in one game, I’d be happy to defer to your analysis. On the flip side, a DB with 8+ tackles and an INT is an almost weekly occurrence in the league.  I won’t even mention the hypocrisy of naming a Defensive player whose team gave up over 30 pts.

The point is POW for the CCIW is not based on merit across the league. See the fact that two of the nations leading defenses have had multiple players on the D3 POW in weeks the CCIW did not honor those players.
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Men's soccer / Re: CCIW
« Last post by Gotberg on Today at 08:09:47 pm »
I haven't seen the play so I probably shouldn't weigh in but what you have described is a very common play that happens in soccer all the time where you anticipate that a player receiving a throw in will play it back to the thrower and immediately pressure them. This happens all the time and does not reveal a player's intent to get retribution. This is a heads up anticipation play that happens at every game about the age of 14.

Now like I said I didn't see the play and maybe he crushed into the guy and it warranted a yellow. But your post makes it seem like his 10 yard to sprint ignoring Olsen to tackle the thrower is what made it a yellow and if thats the case then its a bad call.

Yes, I know that it's de rigueur in soccer to close on a player throwing in the ball in anticipation of a return pass, same as is the case in basketball. What I think you may have missed, though, is the fact that Fairwood, as the player involved in the touchline entanglement that led to that throw-in, immediately ran out from the touchline ten yards onto the pitch before pulling off a high-speed U-ie and bearing back down on Lundeen. In other words, he wasn't some random player in the middle of the pitch who saw an uncovered man throwing in the ball and ran in to challenge him. Fairwood deliberately ran away and then came back for the obvious purpose of building up a head of steam before crashing into Lundeen, rather than simply sticking close to the touchline and marking Lundeen as would typically be the case.

Here’s a link to video I saw.  Completely agree that playing on one yellow, you have to be more careful throwing yourself around and there’s the tone of the game that you mentioned.  That part obviously doesn’t show on video.  You had to have been there to take the temperature of the game and official.  Again, this is one view.   

https://twitter.com/nccmsoc/status/1449724379600990208?s=21

Thanks for the video.  Pretty clear yellow to me by running through the play and his foot going downward. 

Is that the official NC Men's soccer handle?  If so, sorry, but that's pretty embarrassing and they should have repercussions from the conference.  If not, no big deal and I enjoy fan pages.
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1st Skyline Final:  USMMA over Maritime in 3 sets:
                              (25-16, 25-10, 25-12)
USMMA:  Outhit Maritime .419 to .081 for match. 13 service aces.

2nd Final:  Farmingdale State over Old Westbury in 3 sets:
                     (25-19, 25-11, 25-14)
Farmingdale State:  14 service aces, 5 players with .500 or higher hitting pcts.

3rd Final:     Manhattanville over St.Joe's-Brooklyn in 3 sets:
                      (25-19, 25-22, 25-11)
Valiants:  Vital-double double  28 assists, 10 digs.
SJ-Brooklyn:  Morales .355 hitting pct.

Mt. St. Vincent/Sarah Lawrence still in progress yet.
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Dear Opposing Offensive Coordinators,

Please stop trying to reach block Jake Holladay and Dallas McCrae. I have seen every team try this over the past 3 years with zero success. Was there a coaches convention where you all agreed this was a good idea or do you not watch tape? I am not sure I understand the strategy. Double team or block down and pull around are your best options. You can continue to try reach blocks at your own peril.

Sincerely,

A Concerned Observer


Clearly your letter didn’t reach Waukesha!  :D
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While I’m fine with NPU getting the POW honors due to their historic win, the idea that anyone had a better day on defense than Jake Holaday for Wheaton, with his team leading 10 tackles and 3.5 sacks vs Carroll is far fetched and illustrates that these awards are not (and never have been)based on merit across the league.

At least we aren’t talking about soccer anymore.

😂😂😂
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