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Pat Coleman

Quote from: Whitecarrera on October 07, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
I've got to admit, I'm a little surprised by the sentiment for Aurora.
They lost to a good team, they lost BIG to North Central, and they've run up the score on three bad teams.
The rest of their schedule is filled with average teams.
They should walk through their generally weak conference and go to the playoffs, but that's about it.

And also (admittedly, I'm still trying to figure out the new regional structures), but isn't Aurora along with the NACC in Region 5?

The NACC is in Region 5 -- so is the CCIW. But this is a North Region poll, so ...
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Quote from: Whitecarrera on October 07, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
I've got to admit, I'm a little surprised by the sentiment for A


Aurora is kind of in no mans land for the remainder of the NC schedule. Is the Aurora we saw against SJU or vs North Central the real AU? Won't know until playoffs.

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Quote from: Whitecarrera on October 07, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
I've got to admit, I'm a little surprised by the sentiment for Aurora.
They lost to a good team, they lost BIG to North Central, and they've run up the score on three bad teams.
The rest of their schedule is filled with average teams.
They should walk through their generally weak conference and go to the playoffs, but that's about it.

And also (admittedly, I'm still trying to figure out the new regional structures), but isn't Aurora along with the NACC in Region 5?

Who hasn't lost big to North Central in 20+ or so games? It's a very short list of Wheaton (twice) and Mount Union. In that stretch, NC crushed Whitewater in the National Championship game, Muhlenberg in the semis, Delaware Valley in the quarters, Wabash in the first round, and has whooped everyone not named Wheaton so far this year. Losing to NC big doesn't mean much to me because I'm convinced that Mount and Wheaton are the only two teams on this poll that wouldn't get crushed by the Cardinals.

Aurora has in that stretch now twice had 4th quarter leads against a top 10 St. John's team. John Carroll has had close games against Washington and Jefferson and Mount Union. IMO, those results tell me much more about them than all the other north regional team's wins against Hiram, Kenyan, Wilmington, Otterbein, Kalamazoo, or pretty much any team in the HCAC this year, etc.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2021, 12:16:47 PM
Quote from: Whitecarrera on October 07, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
I've got to admit, I'm a little surprised by the sentiment for Aurora.
They lost to a good team, they lost BIG to North Central, and they've run up the score on three bad teams.
The rest of their schedule is filled with average teams.
They should walk through their generally weak conference and go to the playoffs, but that's about it.

And also (admittedly, I'm still trying to figure out the new regional structures), but isn't Aurora along with the NACC in Region 5?

The NACC is in Region 5 -- so is the CCIW. But this is a North Region poll, so ...

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FCGrizzliesGrad

Quote from: Whitecarrera on October 07, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
And also (admittedly, I'm still trying to figure out the new regional structures), but isn't Aurora along with the NACC in Region 5?
Due to the lateness of the change here on the boards and the fact that it had been a while due to the pandemic, the North (now region 4 and 5) and West (now region 5 and 6) polls decided to stay with the old format. The East is basically Region 1 and 2 and they've kept them combined in one poll. The South got off to a late start with a new runner and have decided to use just Region 3 which leaves the ASC without a poll this season since they're now Region 6.
Maybe next year we'll split the polls into the new regions.
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Quote from: Whitecarrera on October 07, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
I've got to admit, I'm a little surprised by the sentiment for Aurora.
They lost to a good team, they lost BIG to North Central, and they've run up the score on three bad teams.
The rest of their schedule is filled with average teams.
They should walk through their generally weak conference and go to the playoffs, but that's about it.

And also (admittedly, I'm still trying to figure out the new regional structures), but isn't Aurora along with the NACC in Region 5?

I'm pretty sure that even JCU (the best 2-2 team ever) would put up over 500 yards on Aurora.  But hey, they have a good QB, chalk up an impressive win for St Johns

HOPEful

Quote from: D3fanboy on October 07, 2021, 06:48:31 PM
Quote from: Whitecarrera on October 07, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
I've got to admit, I'm a little surprised by the sentiment for Aurora.
They lost to a good team, they lost BIG to North Central, and they've run up the score on three bad teams.
The rest of their schedule is filled with average teams.
They should walk through their generally weak conference and go to the playoffs, but that's about it.

And also (admittedly, I'm still trying to figure out the new regional structures), but isn't Aurora along with the NACC in Region 5?
I'm pretty sure that even JCU (the best 2-2 team ever) would put up over 500 yards on Aurora.  But hey, they have a good QB, chalk up an impressive win for St Johns

I do wish there was a greater sample size of cross region, cross conference games. I love that Hope went out to Coe this year. I'd love to see more ARC and WIAC teams on the schedule in future seasons.

It's very difficult to judge how good a team like Central is when their non-conference wins were to St. Olaf and Kalamazoo. The eye-test tells me they're very good. But are they compete with the best of the CCIW/WIAC good? I can ask that same type of question down the rankings too... How good is Aurora comparatively? Albion?
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Quote from: HOPEful on October 08, 2021, 09:15:41 AM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 07, 2021, 06:48:31 PM
Quote from: Whitecarrera on October 07, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
I've got to admit, I'm a little surprised by the sentiment for Aurora.
They lost to a good team, they lost BIG to North Central, and they've run up the score on three bad teams.
The rest of their schedule is filled with average teams.
They should walk through their generally weak conference and go to the playoffs, but that's about it.

And also (admittedly, I'm still trying to figure out the new regional structures), but isn't Aurora along with the NACC in Region 5?
I'm pretty sure that even JCU (the best 2-2 team ever) would put up over 500 yards on Aurora.  But hey, they have a good QB, chalk up an impressive win for St Johns

I do wish there was a greater sample size of cross region, cross conference games. I love that Hope went out to Coe this year. I'd love to see more ARC and WIAC teams on the schedule in future seasons.

It's very difficult to judge how good a team like Central is when their non-conference wins were to St. Olaf and Kalamazoo. The eye-test tells me they're very good. But are they compete with the best of the CCIW/WIAC good? I can ask that same type of question down the rankings too... How good is Aurora comparatively? Albion?

Central seems great!  I mean they put up 84 points on Simpson, something that earned UMHB a couple of extra first place votes in the d3fb poll from preseason to week 1.  Must have been impressive!

HOPEful

10th spot on my ballot is for sale since no one seems to want it!

Albion losing to Adrian, Lakeland losing to Benedictine, Olivet losing to Trine, DePauw getting skunked for 3 quarters and needing 17 in the 4th to sneak past Wittenberg, ...

I wrote down a team's name at 10. I don't feel like they deserve it though...
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HOPEful

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Week 6

https://imgur.com/a/UuSewZB

Sorry for the delay, ballots have been a bit slow this week both here and Top 25.
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Dr. Acula

I ran the table this week.  I didn't think that would happen for a couple more weeks with as unsure as the ballot is after #3.

HOPEful

Haha, this is awesome. There is a very clear line after 8. We unanimously believe the teams 1-8 should be ranked. Then, 8 different schools were written down with those 14 other votes...
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Whitecarrera

You could maybe say that line is drawn after #7.
It's either a thoughtful comment or smartass sarcasm. Recognize the difference.

HOPEful

Unfortunately, it might get muddier with John Carroll playing ONU and OWU playing DePauw this weekend.

I am one of the voters still not ranking DePauw. If they take care of business at home against Ohio Wesleyan, they will be in my rankings next week. Same goes for the Polar Bears, although winning in University Heights is a much taller task.
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