Top 25 discussion

Started by Pat Coleman, February 02, 2005, 12:01:07 AM

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Caz Bombers

this definitely has nothing to do with the top 25, I just ran across this and don't know what to do with this information tbh.

https://lehmanathletics.com/boxscore.aspx?path=&id=4707

Union 57, Lehman 9; a shutout in the first half, which I definitely have never seen before. To add insult to injury, an administrative tech before the game put Union ahead 1-0 before tip-off, an insurmountable lead.

"We just couldn't find our scoring touch in the first half" from the Lehman coach is the funniest and most literal coach quote I've ever read.

NEHoopsFan

Wow, I thought maybe Lehman was a young team that just needs experience, but unfortunately that is not the case.  In fact, to make matters worse, they have no freshman, 1 sophomore and the rest Juniors and Seniors.  Doesn't look like things will be getting better anytime soon for them. 

gordonmann

They will play Medgar Evers and York (N.Y.) since they are all in the same conference. At least their players will have a chance to win those games (as will the players on the other teams).

saratoga


I guess this is what happens at some schools after the coach can no longer have favors done for him in Student Accounts.

Institutional oversight has consequences.

Darryl Nester

How They Fared (So Far)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1610Bowdoin4-012/01 vs. Colby
#2580Hope4-0def. Adrian, 88-50; 12/01 vs. Olivet
#3572St. Thomas4-0def. UW-River Falls, 89-42; 12/01 vs. St. Catherine
#4546Thomas More6-012/01 vs. #17 UW-Whitewater
#5512Chicago5-0def. T#33 Wheaton (Ill.), 72-69; 12/01 vs. Elmhurst
#6509Tufts4-011/30 vs. New England College; 12/01 vs. Williams or Alfred
#7478Amherst3-1def. Emmanuel, 78-48; 12/01 vs. Brooklyn; 12/02 vs. New Jersey City
#8467Scranton5-0def. T#28 DeSales, 63-58; def. Cabrini, 65-51; 12/01 vs. Goucher
#9407East Texas Baptist6-011/29 vs. #25 Mary Hardin-Baylor; 12/01 vs. Concordia (Texas)
#10351George Fox3-111/30 vs. Lewis and Clark; 12/01 vs. Puget Sound
#11307Christopher Newport6-0def. Bridgewater (Va.), 102-56; 12/01 vs. #14 Messiah
#12302St. Joseph's (Maine)5-0def. University of New England, 71-55; 12/01 vs. Bates
#13298Trine5-112/01 vs. Alma
#14273Messiah6-1def. Widener, 69-66 OT; 12/01 vs. #11 Christopher Newport
#15265Emory and Henry6-0def. Hollins, 70-26; 12/01 vs. Washington and Lee
#16239Illinois Wesleyan4-212/01 vs. Carthage
#17162UW-Whitewater4-1def. Augustana, 75-67; 12/01 vs. #4 Thomas More
#18156Wartburg4-1def. Simpson, 83-69; 12/01 vs. Coe
#19125Austin4-011/30 vs. Millsaps; 12/02 vs. Rhodes
#20119Gettysburg4-1def. Ursinus, 72-60; 11/29 vs. #41 Johns Hopkins; 12/01 vs. Haverford
#21117DePauw3-212/01 vs. Kenyon
#22111Texas-Dallas3-111/29 vs. Sul Ross State; 12/01 vs. Howard Payne
#23107SUNY Geneseo6-0def. Alfred, 85-49; 11/30 vs. Oswego State; 12/01 vs. Cortland
#24105Baldwin Wallace5-0def. Heidelberg, 74-64; 12/01 vs. Muskingum
#2561Mary Hardin-Baylor5-0def. Southwestern, 77-69; 11/29 vs. #9 East Texas Baptist; 12/01 vs. LeTourneau


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2644Washington U.3-2def. Millikin, 70-61
#2743Rochester Tech4-011/30 vs. Bard; 12/01 vs. Union
T#2833DeSales5-1LOST to #8 Scranton, 58-63; def. Gwynedd Mercy, 79-51; 12/01 vs. Sage
T#2833UW-Oshkosh4-0def. St. Norbert, 76-43; 11/29 vs. St. Mary's (Minn.)
#3026Chapman4-0def. Occidental, 83-63; 12/01 vs. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
#3124Marymount5-2def. Hood, 78-53; def. Salisbury, 56-46; 12/01 vs. Neumann
#3222Randolph-Macon4-1def. Shenandoah, 58-45; 11/29 vs. Lynchburg; 12/01 vs. Hollins
T#3321Oglethorpe6-1IDLE
T#3321Wheaton (Ill.)3-2LOST to #5 Chicago, 69-72; 12/01 vs. North Park
#3519Montclair State5-1def. Stevens, 62-58; def. Ramapo, 74-40; 12/01 vs. Kean
#3612Ithaca2-1def. Cortland, 85-71; 11/30 vs. Vassar; 12/01 vs. Bard
T#377Hardin-Simmons6-011/29 vs. Louisiana College; 12/01 vs. Belhaven
T#377Ohio Northern5-0def. Case Western Reserve, 71-57; 12/01 vs. T#43 Mount Union
T#377Trinity (Conn.)4-0def. Gordon, 80-29; 12/01 vs. Stevens
#406Middlebury4-0def. Massachusetts College, 92-33; 11/29 vs. Sage; 12/01 vs. Colby-Sawyer
#415Johns Hopkins5-0def. Swarthmore, 81-53; 11/29 vs. #20 Gettysburg; 12/01 vs. Washington College
#424SUNY Oneonta4-1LOST to Hartwick, 54-67; 11/30 vs. SUNY Potsdam; 12/01 vs. Plattsburgh State
T#433Mount Union5-0def. Carnegie Mellon, 57-32; 12/01 vs. T#37 Ohio Northern
T#433Trinity (Texas)4-1IDLE
T#433Whitman3-211/30 vs. Pacific; 12/01 vs. Willamette
#462UW-La Crosse6-011/29 vs. Gustavus Adolphus
#471Muhlenberg5-0def. Bryn Mawr, 87-27; 11/29 vs. Washington College

gordonmann

Big game tonight in Texas! I hope to watch some of it.

gordonmann

I did get a chance to watch some of the second half tonight. The third quarter was up-tempo and exciting. The fourth was up-tempo but sloppy, maybe because the players were tired. Lots of shots that were really short and balls hitting the floor before they were rebounded.

I gather the game was pretty much won in the first quarter (which I didn't see) when the Cru built a 20-point lead. ETBU rallied within six but looked totally spent in the fourth quarter. Both teams are athletic and deserving of Top 25 ranking, somewhere in the teens based on what I saw tonight. Mary Hardin-Baylor needs to find a way to score from outside with more consistency and ETBU needs to improve at the free throw line.

Darryl Nester

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1610Bowdoin5-0def. Colby, 79-49
#2580Hope5-0def. Adrian, 88-50; def. Olivet, 86-48
#3572St. Thomas5-0def. UW-River Falls, 89-42; def. St. Catherine, 82-66
#4546Thomas More7-0def. #17 UW-Whitewater, 69-48
#5512Chicago6-0def. T#33 Wheaton (Ill.), 72-69; def. Elmhurst, 73-54
#6509Tufts6-0def. (n) New England College, 90-34; def. (n) Williams, 67-41
#7478Amherst5-1def. Emmanuel, 78-48; def. Brooklyn, 60-27; def. New Jersey City, 78-52
#8467Scranton6-0def. T#28 DeSales, 63-58; def. Cabrini, 65-51; def. Goucher, 85-48
#9407East Texas Baptist7-1LOST to #25 Mary Hardin-Baylor, 74-87; def. Concordia (Texas), 68-53
#10351George Fox5-1def. Lewis and Clark, 93-44; def. Puget Sound, 63-62
#11307Christopher Newport6-1def. Bridgewater (Va.), 102-56; LOST to #14 Messiah, 62-68
#12302St. Joseph's (Maine)6-0def. University of New England, 71-55; def. Bates, 93-71
#13298Trine6-1def. Alma, 77-46
#14273Messiah7-1def. Widener, 69-66 OT; def. #11 Christopher Newport, 68-62
#15265Emory and Henry6-1def. Hollins, 70-26; LOST to Washington and Lee, 62-71
#16239Illinois Wesleyan5-2def. Carthage, 85-71
#17162UW-Whitewater4-2def. Augustana, 75-67; LOST to #4 Thomas More, 48-69
#18156Wartburg5-1def. Simpson, 83-69; def. Coe, 70-47
#19125Austin5-1LOST to Millsaps, 61-70; def. Rhodes, 84-75
#20119Gettysburg6-1def. Ursinus, 72-60; def. #41 Johns Hopkins, 67-60; def. Haverford, 55-52
#21117DePauw4-2def. Kenyon, 45-42
#22111Texas-Dallas5-1def. Sul Ross State, 62-37; def. Howard Payne, 73-58
#23107SUNY Geneseo8-0def. Alfred, 85-49; def. Oswego State, 74-48; def. Cortland, 67-53
#24105Baldwin Wallace6-0def. Heidelberg, 74-64; def. Muskingum, 82-44
#2561Mary Hardin-Baylor7-0def. Southwestern, 77-69; def. #9 East Texas Baptist, 87-74; def. LeTourneau, 80-48


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2644Washington U.3-2def. Millikin, 70-61
#2743Rochester Tech6-0def. Bard, 71-48; def. Union, 66-59
T#2833DeSales5-2LOST to #8 Scranton, 58-63; def. Gwynedd Mercy, 79-51; LOST to Sage, 73-74
T#2833UW-Oshkosh5-0def. St. Norbert, 76-43; def. St. Mary's (Minn.), 61-36
#3026Chapman5-0def. Occidental, 83-63; def. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, 64-55
#3124Marymount6-2def. Hood, 78-53; def. Salisbury, 56-46; def. Neumann, 56-51
#3222Randolph-Macon6-1def. Shenandoah, 58-45; def. Lynchburg, 58-55; def. Hollins, 90-44
T#3321Oglethorpe6-1IDLE
T#3321Wheaton (Ill.)4-2LOST to #5 Chicago, 69-72; def. North Park, 81-32
#3519Montclair State6-1def. Stevens, 62-58; def. Ramapo, 74-40; def. Kean, 73-58
#3612Ithaca4-1def. Cortland, 85-71; def. Vassar, 68-54; def. Bard, 94-42
T#377Hardin-Simmons7-1def. Louisiana College, 79-60; LOST to Belhaven, 60-68 OT
T#377Ohio Northern5-1def. Case Western Reserve, 71-57; LOST to T#43 Mount Union, 58-77
T#377Trinity (Conn.)5-0def. Gordon, 80-29; def. Stevens, 73-64
#406Middlebury6-0def. Massachusetts College, 92-33; def. Sage, 63-44; def. Colby-Sawyer, 75-30
#415Johns Hopkins6-1def. Swarthmore, 81-53; LOST to #20 Gettysburg, 60-67; def. Washington College, 63-45
#424SUNY Oneonta6-1LOST to Hartwick, 54-67; def. SUNY Potsdam, 68-62; def. Plattsburgh State, 72-57
T#433Mount Union6-0def. Carnegie Mellon, 57-32; def. T#37 Ohio Northern, 77-58
T#433Trinity (Texas)4-1IDLE
T#433Whitman5-2def. Pacific, 84-69; def. Willamette, 75-33
#462UW-La Crosse7-0def. Gustavus Adolphus, 55-49
#471Muhlenberg6-0def. Bryn Mawr, 87-27; def. Washington College, 61-37

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SidelineHero

I see that Mass Dartmouth got a vote!  ;D ;D ;D Let's see if they give Bowdoin a game this Thursday.

gordonmann

Your lobbying worked. I've been watching the teams in the conference more closely and have a hunch the Corsairs will give Bowdoin a game. So I'm their vote. :)

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: gordonmann on December 04, 2018, 12:48:13 PM
Your lobbying worked. I've been watching the teams in the conference more closely and have a hunch the Corsairs will give Bowdoin a game. So I'm their vote. :)



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Quote from: SidelineHero on December 04, 2018, 06:13:43 AM
I see that Mass Dartmouth got a vote!  ;D ;D ;D Let's see if they give Bowdoin a game this Thursday.


I hope so.  Might be close for a half, but I say Bowdoin by 15 or so, pulling away in the second half.

SidelineHero

Quote from: gordonmann on December 04, 2018, 12:48:13 PM
Your lobbying worked. I've been watching the teams in the conference more closely and have a hunch the Corsairs will give Bowdoin a game. So I'm their vote. :)

I appreciate the transparency.  Tonight will show whether they deserve the nod or not. 

SidelineHero

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 04, 2018, 03:10:13 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on December 04, 2018, 12:48:13 PM
Your lobbying worked. I've been watching the teams in the conference more closely and have a hunch the Corsairs will give Bowdoin a game. So I'm their vote. :)



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Now that's funny!