Top 25 talk

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Greek Tragedy

Not sure if anyone noticed, but 24 of the Top 25 teams are in the tournament. I know this has been discussed in previous years. I don't recall if all 25 have made it into the tournament, so 24 could be a record.
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Greek Tragedy

Top 25 teams went an impressive 22-2. St. John's lost and Wittenberg beat Emory.
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We are down to 32. A great weekend of basketball has cut the NCAA tournament teams in half. There were some surprises, surprising outcomes, and fun environments around DIII. Even the end of the title defense of Nebraska Wesleyan.

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The second weekend of the DIII Men's and Women's Championship Tournaments is set to start. Can the upset minded teams continue to prevail? Can the "favorites" maintain their poise? What home team will enjoy their own cooking? And who will still be playing in Fort Wayne and Salem?

On Thursday's Hoopsville, Dave is joined by a number of guests to get a look not only at the action ahead this weekend, but the action coming at the final fours. Which teams seemed ready to be playing one more weekend?

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- Dave Hixon, No. 7 Amherst men's coach
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Just out of the top 10 there is only 3 teams remaining 4th Oshkosh  6th Swatmore and 9th  CNU and two not ranked teams Wheaton,Guilford nice job!

kiko

Quote from: Rofrog on March 08, 2019, 11:54:01 PM
Just out of the top 10 there is only 3 teams remaining 4th Oshkosh  6th Swatmore and 9th  CNU and two not ranked teams Wheaton,Guilford nice job!

Last year's final four was:
#24 UW-Oshkosh
#26 Nebraska Wesleyan
Received no votes Ramapo
Received no votes Springfield

The level of parity in D3 seems to increase every year these days...

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: kiko on March 09, 2019, 12:53:29 AM
Quote from: Rofrog on March 08, 2019, 11:54:01 PM
Just out of the top 10 there is only 3 teams remaining 4th Oshkosh  6th Swatmore and 9th  CNU and two not ranked teams Wheaton,Guilford nice job!

Last year's final four was:
#24 UW-Oshkosh
#26 Nebraska Wesleyan
Received no votes Ramapo
Received no votes Springfield

The level of parity in D3 seems to increase every year these days...

Either that or the poll voters get dumber every year! ;D  (I prefer to believe it is your explanation. ;))

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Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 09, 2019, 12:59:55 AM
Quote from: kiko on March 09, 2019, 12:53:29 AM
Quote from: Rofrog on March 08, 2019, 11:54:01 PM
Just out of the top 10 there is only 3 teams remaining 4th Oshkosh  6th Swatmore and 9th  CNU and two not ranked teams Wheaton,Guilford nice job!

Last year's final four was:
#24 UW-Oshkosh
#26 Nebraska Wesleyan
Received no votes Ramapo
Received no votes Springfield

The level of parity in D3 seems to increase every year these days...

Either that or the poll voters get dumber every year! ;D  (I prefer to believe it is your explanation. ;))
I must be looking at different numbers to everyone else. I thought poll voters seemed to do quite fine this year. 14 of the 16 playing the 2nd weekend were ranked including 8 of the top 10. Of the two unranked teams, Guilford was 27th (missing 25th by 7 points) and Wheaton 31st (receiving 16 points).

Comparing to last year, the worst case scenario would have #14, #19, #27, and #31 which is still an improvement. While the best case would have #4, #6, #9, #22.
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What's always funny to me, having done this for a little while now, is how similar my final ballot ends up being to my pre-season ballot, even if that doesn't seem at all likely during the season.  There's always a few teams that crater and a few that come out of nowhere, but the teams often what we think they'll be - at least more often than one would expect.
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The final fours are set! Eight of the best men's and women's teams remain to battle it out for two national titles. On the women's side, many of those expected to make it to Salem. On the men's side, none of the top four powers will be in Fort Wayne.

Sunday on Hoopsville, Dave takes a look at both a record breaking performance on the men's side and chats with the four teams dancing on the women's side. (Due to the extensive coverage in Fort Wayne at the men's championship weekend, Sunday's show will have more women's coverage than men's.) How one man put up 62-points in a game and has already shattered the single-tournament scoring record. And how the four hosts on the women's side survived their weekends to advance.

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- Aston Francis, Wheaton (Ill.) senior guard
- Jeff Hans, No. 1 Thomas More women's coach
- Adrienne Schibles, No. 3 Bowdoin women's coach
- Ruth Sinn, No. 2 St. Thomas women's coach
- Bridgette Mann, No. 9 Scranton senior guard
- Carey Harveycutter, City of Salem (Vir.)

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Greek Tragedy

Now that Wheaton has lost, the question really doesn't need to be asked, but I'll ask it anyway for fun.

If Wheaton beat Swarthmore for the national championship, what final ranking would they end up as?

I assume there are a few voters that automatically put the champion as #1, but more probably don't. Top teams like NWU, Whitman and Augustana all fell fairly early. It would be real interesting to know where Wheaton would've been ranked as they would've beaten Augustana, Oshkosh and Swarthmore to the big door step.

On that note, I'm guessing Oshkosh or Swarthmore will be crowned #1 without a doubt. But will Wheaton be #3 or #4?
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 16, 2019, 05:38:21 AM
Now that Wheaton has lost, the question really doesn't need to be asked, but I'll ask it anyway for fun.

If Wheaton beat Swarthmore for the national championship, what final ranking would they end up as?

I assume there are a few voters that automatically put the champion as #1, but more probably don't. Top teams like NWU, Whitman and Augustana all fell fairly early. It would be real interesting to know where Wheaton would've been ranked as they would've beaten Augustana, Oshkosh and Swarthmore to the big door step.

On that note, I'm guessing Oshkosh or Swarthmore will be crowned #1 without a doubt. But will Wheaton be #3 or #4?

I won't have Wheaton in the top four on my final ballot.  I believe UW-Oshkosh, Swarthmore, Augustana, Nebraska Wesleyan, and Loras are better.  After those five I'd start considering North Central and Wheaton from the CCIW.

If Wheaton beat both UW-Oshkosh and Swarthmore this weekend (the best two teams I have seen this year) then, yes, I would have had Wheaton #1 on my final ballot.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 16, 2019, 05:38:21 AM
Now that Wheaton has lost, the question really doesn't need to be asked, but I'll ask it anyway for fun.

If Wheaton beat Swarthmore for the national championship, what final ranking would they end up as?

In the history of our poll, no voter has ever placed the winner of the NCAA Tournament/playoffs anywhere but No. 1. (True on D3hoops.com and D3football.com.) Legend has it that one voter requested to do so in the first few years of our poll, but I requested they reconsider and they obliged.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 16, 2019, 11:19:19 AM
In the history of our poll, no voter has ever placed the winner of the NCAA Tournament/playoffs anywhere but No. 1. (True on D3hoops.com and D3football.com.) Legend has it that one voter requested to do so in the first few years of our poll, but I requested they reconsider and they obliged.

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Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 16, 2019, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 16, 2019, 11:19:19 AM
In the history of our poll, no voter has ever placed the winner of the NCAA Tournament/playoffs anywhere but No. 1. (True on D3hoops.com and D3football.com.) Legend has it that one voter requested to do so in the first few years of our poll, but I requested they reconsider and they obliged.

Pat straddles the line between legend and reality in one anecdote!

This is why he's the guru and we're not. ;)

Plausible deniability... but anyone who reads his note can only take away "don't even think about it".