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Title: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on February 14, 2007, 06:14:24 PM
I started this up b/c the new england conference threads have nothing going on but there seem to be some new england posters out there.  if starting a new thread in here is frowned upon, please take it down and accept my apologies.

so here you go, jcon, ecsu alum, bostonion, dr.gilblair, others--please chime in.  here are some predictions to get the ball rolling.

NEWMAC
1.   Amherst—Finished strong last year winning 8 of the last nine against pretty good competition.  Took 2 from division 2 Bentley, 2 out of 3 from conference champ Middlebury, shut out LEC co-regular season champ Keene State, one against Brandeis.
2.   Bowdoin—Don't really know much about them but have been right up there for a few years.
3.   Tufts—See Bowdoin

Middlebury and Williams don't make the cut, they both seem like they can mash but pitching isn't there.

NEWMAC
1.   Wheaton—Stacked, went to final game last year and didn't lose much.  Pitching should carry them, starters are solid, simmons slides into bakers spot as the closer.
2.   Springfield—not much here other than past performance
3.   Babson—see springfield

LEC
1.   Keene State—Almost everyone is back from a team that went 11-3 in the conference last year and was only an ECSU double header sweep on the last day of the LEC Tournament away from NCAA Tournament last year.
2.   Southern Maine—seems to have a lot returning had a strong showing and new England regional last year.
3.   Eastern Connecticut—I know it is eastern and they will be strong and they will have some studs coming in, so it is a stretch to predict them third but it all depends what team shows up the team that went 8-6 in LEC regular season and lost 1-2-3 hitters or the team that got very very hot at exactly the right time.

MASCAC
1.   Bridgewater
2.   Worcester
3.   Salem State—Atlanta Christian College, Clearwater Christian College, Taccoa Falls College,  & Spring Arbor College aren't walking through that door in April and May.  Seriously who makes this schedule.

CCC
1.   Endicott
2.   Salve Regina
3.   Somebody else

NAC
1.   St. Joe's
2.   honestly I can't think of any other teams in this league

GNAC
1.   WNEC—Returns everyone except Connelly (all-american pitcher/2nd basemen—graduation).  Returning pitchers Anderson (jr. third team all new England 2006, 1-2 with 3.97 era this summer in NECBL), Pizzaferrato (so. Second team all new England, 4-0 2.10 era this summer in NECBL), and others.  Pitching needs to carry them.
2.   Suffolk—Suffolk has some strong returnees (with solid summer experience) but loses Mercado (aka WNEC killer)
3.   Johnson & Wales—Loses a bit to graduation but should hit (they always hit) loses Gilbert to graduation (aka WNEC killer)

If that all plays out that way here is what tournament looks like

Automatic BidsAmherst
Wheaton
Keene
Bridgewater
Endicott
St. Joes (pretty sure that NAC gets an AQ this year)
WNEC

I say Amherst goes to new york region, leaving only one at large bid which goes to southern maine.

I will be the first to admit many of these are just guesses and you can probably tell which conferences and teams I know more (and less) about
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 14, 2007, 09:52:05 PM
Looks good, Don, but one correction.  There has been a change in the allocation of bids in the last few years.  There is no specific allocation of Pool C (at large bids) to an evaluation region, or number of bids in toto to a region.  For example, the NESCAC and Little East both might earn Pool C bids. :)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on February 14, 2007, 09:58:19 PM
i don't know exactly how all the bids work but i don't think nescac will get two this year. 

question, does the selection committee (if there is one) take into account what teams conferences did in the ncaa's in the past?

back to the nescac and lec example, last year bowdoin got in as the second nescac team and went 2 and bbq. and a non aq team from the little east also got in, southern maine, who lost in the regional final while ecsu made it to wisconsin. 

seems like an arguement for lec being a "two bid league" but not nescac.  i realize this is just one year but if this were a trend would they take this into account
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 14, 2007, 10:05:06 PM
Quote from: don mattingly on February 14, 2007, 09:58:19 PM
i don't know exactly how all the bids work but i don't think nescac will get two this year. 

question, does the selection committee (if there is one) take into account what teams conferences did in the ncaa's in the past?


No, that criterion is gone from the Handbook as well.

Here is the link to the 2006 Handbook (http://www.ncaa.org/library/handbooks/baseball/2006/2006_d3_baseball_handbook.pdf) for your review.

The only major addition that I foresee in the 2007 Edition is the paragraph on Geographical regions.  :)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on February 15, 2007, 10:45:42 AM
Don,
The best 2 teams in the NESCAC did not make the league tourney. Amherst stumbled against Williams and it ruined their season. Trinity lost their top 3 pitchers to injuries and it killed them. The NESCAC, last year, was just as strong as the LEC. Howeverm because Amherst had one bad weekend and Trinity's pitchers were hurt, nobody really got to see it's best teams. Another thing to consider is that the NESCAC tourney was basically played on the Saturday and Sunday before the regionals. By the time Bowdoin and Middlebury got to the regionals, they were using their 4th starters in the first game. But the league was strong. Look at Tufts. They beat 2 teams that were in the CWS (NC Wesleyan and ECSU). Amherst had some big wins. Williams beat WNEC and other storng teams.

This year, I think Middlebury is the team to beat, but injuries will still be the issue. Donahue, at Amherst, who pitched great on the Cape 2 summers ago, has never been the same since because of elbow issues. If he is healthy, Amherst should overtake Middlebury in the NESCAC West. Kiely and Rappaport, from Trinity, have both missed an entire season after perfoming well in the NECBL. If they are back at full strength, their 1-2 presence is unmatched in the NESCAC East. Tufts just lost their #1 for the entire season, but they do have quality depth in their rotation. Bowdoin lost alot of top talent and will rebuild.

Here's how I see it.
East-
Trinity
Tufts
Bowdoin
Colby
Bates

West-
Middlebury
Amherst
Williams
Wesleyan
Hamilton
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on February 15, 2007, 12:03:47 PM
i wasn't trying to "bash" the NESCAC at all.  I agree it is a strong league.  bostonian you obviously know more about the league than i do.  i appreciate the info. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on February 15, 2007, 12:31:46 PM
I know you weren't trying to bash it, Don...just figured I'd add my 2 cents.
With all of the injuries, I would definitely say the LEC has a much better shot of getting multiple teams in the tourney this year than the NESCAC.

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on February 15, 2007, 04:12:46 PM
dear bostonian,

I expect a full NESCAC preview on my desk first thing monday morning (wait that is a holiday--you get until tuesday).

thank you

management
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Spartan on February 16, 2007, 03:49:04 PM
The report would be ideal if it included some thoughts on the freshman recruits at these schools.  I know of one school that had a particularly successful recruiting effort this year.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on February 16, 2007, 04:10:20 PM
Quote from: Old Spartan on February 16, 2007, 03:49:04 PM
I know of one school that had a particularly successful recruiting effort this year.

Would you like to share with the group?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on February 16, 2007, 04:54:52 PM
Unfortunately, we won't know anything about these freshmen untill the rosters are released.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Spartan on February 16, 2007, 05:07:06 PM
If I share my knowledge it will compromise my confidential sources, the rosters should be out soon.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 17, 2007, 02:32:54 PM
I really don't know much about the non LEC teams other than the ones ECSU played against.  The thing I thought was the most interesting last year was the parity in D3 baseball across the country.  Me now being a ECSU groupie and using all my vacation time to follow the team to California, all across New England, deep into Maine for the LEC tourney, NY for the regional and Fox Cities for the championship I did see a lot of teams from all around the country and was really amazed with the thought that no one team really awed me....well Marietta did seem to be a cut above everyone actually, but other than that no one was scary if you know what I mean.  Even the fact we played Chapman 2 times and lost, they didn't awe me. (darn Buddy K kid twice).  Anyway, my top New England teams are.

LEC- SMU, ECSU, KEENE (ECSU winning tourney and bid)
NEWMAC- Wheaton, Wheaton and Wheaton
GNAC- WNEC, Pizzaferrato huge year

How did SMU get a bid? Keene tied SMU for the regular season and went further in the LEC tournament than SMU.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 19, 2007, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: dgilblair on February 17, 2007, 02:32:54 PM
How did SMU get a bid? Keene tied SMU for the regular season and went further in the LEC tournament than SMU.


Southern Maine must have won more important conference games than Keene to get the bid over Keene.  There is a point schedule in the championship handbook that is used to rank teams.  The more points, the greater your chance at getting a bid.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 19, 2007, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on February 19, 2007, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: dgilblair on February 17, 2007, 02:32:54 PM
How did SMU get a bid? Keene tied SMU for the regular season and went further in the LEC tournament than SMU.


Southern Maine must have won more important conference games than Keene to get the bid over Keene.  There is a point schedule in the championship handbook that is used to rank teams.  The more points, the greater your chance at getting a bid.
Thanks Jim,  Just seemed strange because Keene pounded SMU in the LEC tournament also.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on February 19, 2007, 05:09:52 PM
This may have also played a role in southern maine getting in ove keene

From Keene's 2006 Stat page
Apr 22, 2006 at U. of Southern Maine    6-9  L   
Apr 22, 2006 at U. of Southern Maine    6-7  L   
May 13, 2006 vs U. of Southern Maine W 14-4

head to head USM took 2 of 3

and i know there is no official selection criteria for this but USM might have got some "name recognition points"
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 19, 2007, 06:59:59 PM
It use to be that reputation helped to get you in the playoffs but i think those days are gone.  With so many bids taken up by conference Champions (of which i am all in favor of) there are just a few slots open if you do not win your conference.  I like settng up a point system as they have since you know before the season starts just what you have to do.  Few surprises.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: BigPoppa on February 19, 2007, 07:07:57 PM
I was once the beneficiary of the name recognition in the bids process. Our 1994 Carthage team had no business getting into the NCAA after a disappointing 32-15 season. In fact, we turned in our uniforms and equipment and headed for home. We got the #4 seed in the Central Region and had to scramble to get back to school then rolled through the regional to get into the World Series while a North Central team that beat us 5 of 7 times that year was left out of the field... even after beating us in the CCIW tourney final.

I prefer the new method much better.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on February 19, 2007, 07:26:40 PM
i don't think name plays a big role at all. 

but, and coming from someone who spends a great deal of his job making sure people make objective decisions and removing the subjectivity, i will admit that whenever we have humans making decisions, there will be some subjectivity

looking at my first post about this, i think the 2 of 3 games head to head probably played a bigger factor.  they factor in head to head, right?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on February 19, 2007, 07:32:35 PM
New to the game here. I have followed KSC for three years. They lost two games at home to St Joes of Maine. I think thats what kept them from getting a bid. The two games at USM could have gone either way. A bad call at home plate changes one game
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bob Maxwell on February 19, 2007, 07:58:01 PM
Jim is right... the point schedule is what determines who gets a bid after the automatics.  So playing a stong schedule helps... but you have to win a lot of those games to get the high point totals.

Last year, Brockport played a really tough early schedule, but lost a lot of 1 run games and didn't get the points.  And while they may have been under consideration, when a couple of conferences had upsets in them... the potential available bids went to teams who were upset.

I guess the point is win games... no matter who you play.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 19, 2007, 08:46:48 PM
One factor I may not have thought of is that the head coaches father passed away the weekend of the LEC.  Do you think it's possible they would have asked to not be included in the bids?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on February 19, 2007, 09:23:58 PM
Coach Howe's Father's death had nothing to do with not getting a bid, maybe with not winning one of those games. They accepted a bid for the ECAC, to host but were rained out. This is  a close knit team and both of Howe's parents were huge fans and knew all the players. That was tough
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 20, 2007, 07:07:43 PM
I knew it was pretty bad because Holowaty's daughter Jen was real upset.  I think that definetly took some wind out of the team as close knit as that.  Sure baseball wasn't on their minds. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on February 28, 2007, 11:42:04 AM
I was also very surprised last spring when USM got the bid over Keene.  I believe it had to do with ???????? the coach?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on February 28, 2007, 12:31:27 PM
I really think the reason they did not get a bid was out of conference losses to St. Josephs and Colby Sawyer. If KSC had beaten ESCU that would have meant that they had four wins against Holowaty in one season. Also I think they were expecting to play USM and were surprised to find Eastern in the other dugout. I don't think any Dlll team beats Eastern four times out of five. Three out of five wasn't bad, just the wrong three.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 05, 2007, 10:59:17 AM
USM went to the NCAA because they had name recognition, Ed Flatherty - HOF, and had several quality wins, where KSC had little in the way of wins over quality teams other than those listed below, and lost to some below average squads. KSC will have to win their way into the NCAAs as long as USM and EConn are in the conference. Once there they must win some games to establish a name. Much as Wheaton has done over the past couple of years.

USM - Wins over- Williams, Bowdoin, St. Joe's (twice), EConn, KSC
USM - Key losses, but to quality teams were to Wisconsin-Whitewater (2), Wheaton (2), St. Joe's - 1
        one bad loss was to Husson.

KSC - suffered some bad losses to St. Joe's (2), Colby-Sawyer, Fitchburg St., USM (2), and Amherst.
KSC - Quality Wins- EConn (3), USM (1).

Word!

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on March 05, 2007, 06:12:06 PM
KSC also had a good win over Amherst at Keene - 8-3. Thurston wanted a rematch because his team did not look good. KSC should not have played the game. Keene through their #5 pitcher and Amherst threw their 1or2. It meant nothing to KSC but Thurston wanted to win badly.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on March 05, 2007, 06:31:37 PM
wordsmith,

i appreciate the extra work but why is it that whens USM losses to St. joes it is a loss to a "quality team" but when KSC lost to st joes it is a "bad loss"?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 06, 2007, 10:31:58 AM
You are correct.

Hey it is below zero here in New England boys!! Let's play 2.

Word
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on March 06, 2007, 11:15:18 AM
it is cold here in jersey but very windy, doesn't wind help dry out the ground?  i know when i watch golf i have heard an announcer say, "Very windy last few days which has really dried out the greens and made them fast"

but maybe when it is 28 degrees that theory doesn't count
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 06, 2007, 12:02:48 PM
I scoff at your below zero.  We have had only one high above zero in nearly 3 weeks. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 06, 2007, 12:23:03 PM
Quote from: don mattingly on March 06, 2007, 11:15:18 AM
it is cold here in jersey but very windy, doesn't wind help dry out the ground?  i know when i watch golf i have heard an announcer say, "Very windy last few days which has really dried out the greens and made them fast"

but maybe when it is 28 degrees that theory doesn't count

Most of Northern New England has 10-15" of snow on the ground. So, aaahhh, wind ain't a big help this time of year except to lower the wind chill; which was -29F this am.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 06, 2007, 12:26:43 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on March 06, 2007, 12:02:48 PM
I scoff at your below zero.  We have had only one high above zero in nearly 3 weeks. 
Scoff as I don't believe it or scoff as in you are a real tuff guy because you live in a state that regularly posts Brass Monkey Warnings every night and nobody gives it a second thought?

Hahahaha

Word
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 06, 2007, 03:48:48 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on March 06, 2007, 12:26:43 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on March 06, 2007, 12:02:48 PM
I scoff at your below zero.  We have had only one high above zero in nearly 3 weeks. 
Scoff as I don't believe it or scoff as in you are a real tuff guy because you live in a state that regularly posts Brass Monkey Warnings every night and nobody gives it a second thought?

Hahahaha

Word

Scoff  - as I live in a state (Alaska) that posts those brass monkey warnings.  High School baseball starts in 2 months, our summer league in 3.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: JeffRookie2 on March 13, 2007, 02:25:08 AM
Which teams are considered the best in the NE? I know the general pecking order in the NESCAC, but how does that conference compare with everyone else?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 13, 2007, 08:14:42 PM
Quote from: JeffRookie2 on March 13, 2007, 02:25:08 AM
Which teams are considered the best in the NE? I know the general pecking order in the NESCAC, but how does that conference compare with everyone else?

Power teams in the NE have been EConn and Southern Maine with a combined 6 or 7 national titles and 2 legendary coaches. Several other teams have had their moments in the sun, Amherst, Williams, Salisbury State, Bridgewater State and more recently Trinity and Wheaton. Some programs possibly on the verge are St. Joe's, Keene State,  I know I missed some schools but those are the power programs as I see them.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on March 23, 2007, 02:51:05 PM
a general theme for new england favorites so far has been slow starts and finishing stronger on their trip

Wheaton started 1-4 then won four straight including two of TCNJ

Eastern started out started out 1-4 and has won two straight (two left to play)

WNEC started out 2-4 with bowdoin (NCAA tournament), Otterbien, and Wisconson--Steven's Point (#1 & #5 respectively in pre-season poll) left on the schedule.  finishes on a 3 game winning streak go end up 5-4.

Southern maine just started their trip and is 2-0 completely screwing up my theory.

but still three of the top 4 rated teams in the region start out a combined 4-12 to start the season is interesting (well to me)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: candyman on March 26, 2007, 07:19:59 PM
Middlebury beat southern maine today 14-7 in a rematch of last year's ncaa regional. a big win for midd and a bad loss for s. maine. midd is good, should be a contender to repeat as nescac champs, but s. maine could have been a contender for #1 in new england after a strong florida showing.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon2134 on March 26, 2007, 07:54:28 PM
There has been alot of discussion that the NESCAC is a better conference or even with the little east I am here to let you all know that is not true sure the NESCAC is a good conference but it is no were near as good as the Little East sure they have some quality wins of the LEC this year but it is not close in my option. So I would like other peoples input on this but I really dont think that it is even close.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on March 26, 2007, 09:25:24 PM
It is very close. The top teams in the NESCAC like Trinity, Tufts, Williams, and Middlebury would be very competetive in the LEC. Tufts beat ECSU last year. Mid just beat S. Maine. I believe Amherst beat Keene St. last year. Two years ago, Trinity was in the NCAA World Series. The leagues are comparable. I think this year, the LEC is stronger though but not by that much. Both leagues are also veyr top heavy. The low end teams are very weak.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on March 27, 2007, 01:06:44 PM
What are people's thoughts on the regional ranking that just came out

New England
1. Wheaton (6-5)
2. Southern Maine (4-0)
3. Western New England (5-4)
4. Trinity (11-1)
5. Williams (4-3)
6. Eastern Connecticut State (4-5)
7. Suffolk (7-3)
8. Babson (5-1)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on March 27, 2007, 01:19:11 PM
That sounds about right...it's tough to tell because of the schedules that teams play are so different. I am guessing that teams like Tufts, Middlebury, UMass-Boston, Keene St. , and St. Joe's will be heard from, too.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on March 27, 2007, 01:28:08 PM
Speaking of the schedules they played, Below is a little more info.  list seems pretty good, it is early and hard to tell, i think with almost every team there you could make an arguement for them to be higher OR for them to be lower.

i know i can't spell, please don't bug me about the teams names i spelled incorrectly, because i am sure i butchered some of them but you know who i am talking about.  thanks

New England
1. Wheaton (6-5)
Wins—John Hopkins, Denison, Umass Boston, TCNJ x2, Coast Guard
Losses—Montclair State, William Patterson, Alvernia, Rutgers Camden, Coast Guard

2. Southern Maine (4-0)
Wins—Albright x2, Gustavus Adolfus, Williams
Loss—Middlebury (not reflected in record above)

3. Western New England (5-4)
Wins—Becker, Hope, Bowdoin, Otterbien, Wisconsin Steven's Point
Losses—Becker, Cortland, Frostburg, Hope

4. Trinity (11-1)
Wins—Worcester State x2, Babson, North Central, St. Lawrence, Plymouth State x2, Fredonia State x2, Hamilton x2
Loss--Babson

5. Williams (4-3)
Wins—Umass Boston, Eastern Connecticut, Hamline x2
Losses—Southern Maine, Umass Boston, Augsberg

6. Eastern Connecticut State (4-5)
Wins—Whittier, Chicago, Calvin, Buena Vista
Losses—Redlands, LaVerne, Claremont Mudd Scribbs, Wisconsin Whitewater, Williams

7. Suffolk (7-3)
Wins—Coe, Fitchburg State, Benedictine, Becker, Knox, New Jersey City, Albion
Losses—Scranton, Knox, Wisconsin Steven's Point

8. Babson (5-1)
Wins—Eastern Nazerene, Trinity, Knox, Finlandia, Amherst
Losses—Trinity
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on March 28, 2007, 07:36:24 AM
I saw Wheaton beat Brandeis yesterday, 2-1...Wheaton is the same, solid team they were last year...they don't mash, but everybody puts the ball in play, they execute small ball very well, play solid defense, and, obviously, get great pitching from the entire staff...if you beat the, you really have to earn it.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: bball13 on March 28, 2007, 11:03:02 AM
I agree with Bostonian.  Pretty much the same team as last year just with new seniors and a new freshman class.  They play station to station baseball and look for clutch two out hits when they need them (and often times they get them).  Last year they didn't blow many teams out of the water, they just beat them in close games in the late innings.  Have to give credit to Coach Podbelski and how he can get a bunch of guys, especially guys that used to be studs in their high school just as on every other team, to play such an unselfish game of baseball.  Granted Wheaton has games where they put up a large number of runs but usually just a game of where the pitcher gives a solid 6, 7, 8 innings they get a couple runs and have their bullpen close it out.  Not to many other teams do this in New England and the nation for that matter
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on March 28, 2007, 11:25:17 AM
Their pitching depth is fantastic...I'd say only Eastern CT has that type of depth with starters and relievers.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: bball13 on March 28, 2007, 01:18:07 PM
I would agree.  Econn brings 20 pitchers listed on their roster 14 of which are sophmores on up to seniors, and 6 being freshman.  Some of them are listed as position players as well, I don't know them well enough to know which of them actually get alot of innings or who comes in a big situation. Wheaton has 12 pitchers and returns 9 of them who were on the team that made the run to nationals last year.  I know that Wheaton designates pitchers as pitchers at that's it, so even though Econn may have more guys with quality stuff, I just didn't know if all of them actually through or if they are just used in emergency situations.  I would agree with the depth of both staffs just think that Wheaton has more experience within their staff than Econn, but that's overlooking the fact that I don't know who their real starters and main relievers are or were for that matter.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on March 28, 2007, 01:55:02 PM
They are the same, experience wise...EConn only lost 1 pitcher from last year...and I would also say their guys throw harder, in general, which means little but should be noted. Esposito and Lavorgna are both 87-91 guys, and I believe they anchor the bullpen.

The only pitcher they have that sees any time off the mound is Gilblair, and I believe he only DH's.

Still, they are definitely 1 and 1a in terms of NE pitching staffs. I think So. Maine is supposed to be healthy this year, so they might be #3. Trinity should also be mentioned because Kiely and Rappaport are helthy again.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: bball13 on March 29, 2007, 08:27:47 PM
Wheaton beats U-Mass Dartmouth 12-2 today.  It was 3-2 going into the 9th but a 9 run inning put Wheaton over the top.  Guess that pitching depth really does mean something ;)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on March 29, 2007, 10:20:42 PM
ECSU beat WNEC today, 4-3...doesn't look like ECSU has the offensive horses they had last year.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on March 30, 2007, 12:49:58 AM
WNEC is an excellent pitching team. so to say that is unjust
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on March 30, 2007, 06:44:21 AM
Didn't meanto denigrate WNEC's pitching...I meant that I didn't see alot of the offensive studs in the ECSU lineup that I saw last year...it seems they lost a lot of their lineup to graduation.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on March 30, 2007, 08:52:25 AM
Very true.  I am unfamiliar with ECSU but can speak on WNEC- they are a good team- but beatable.

Any big games in the New England region that will be tests for teams- you know, the games circled on the calander?

42585
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on March 30, 2007, 09:59:40 AM
Trinity-Bowdoin and Williams-Middlebury this weekend in the NESCAC...Bowdoin looks very, very young, and Trinity has whooped on the weaker NE teams. Middlebury is Jekyll and Hyde. They can look great and then get swept by Oberlin. Both teams have big time offenses so expect fireworks...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on March 30, 2007, 11:59:12 AM
Bowdoin is not very, very young. They do have two freshmen that are playing a lot, catcher and cf/lf, but the majority of the contributors are seniors and juniors.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: RedDevils36 on March 30, 2007, 12:26:55 PM
However, Bowdoin lost numerous horses.

Jared Lemieux
Trevor Powers
Marc Bulger
Ricky LeClerc
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on March 30, 2007, 12:59:31 PM
I shouldn't have said young...inexperienced is a better word...where has Driscoll been? I don't think he's thrown an inning yet...

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Spartan on March 30, 2007, 01:57:55 PM
All the past stats are available on the web site.  By my calculations, Bowdoin lost 5 of its pitchers to graduation.  These seniors accounted for 227 of the total 330 innings pitched, just under 70%.  Seven players batted above 300, graduation took 4 of those guys.  Graduation leads to opportunities for the next generation's stars, but it makes it hard to predict the future.  I have not done the same analysis for other teams, but may travel to Waltham to see tomorrow's double header.

OS
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on March 30, 2007, 08:20:53 PM


Any big games in the New England region that will be tests for teams- you know, the games circled on the calander?

Look at Rhode Island College/Keene State for an indication of what's going on in the LEC.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: bball13 on March 30, 2007, 09:13:50 PM
Wheaton 6, Endicott 1

4 in a row now for Wheaton.  They're starting put pitching, hitting, and defense together.  If this consist look out.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 02, 2007, 09:05:18 PM
Weather permitting- (snow???) there is a good game on wednesday- USM vs. SJC.

Measuring stick.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 03, 2007, 12:35:31 PM
Quote from: soxfan42585 on April 02, 2007, 09:05:18 PM
Weather permitting- (snow???) there is a good game on wednesday- USM vs. SJC.

Measuring stick.

Good Citizen Sanborn will have the Joe's super-jacked, but HOFEF counters with his own brand of clipboard mania. USM rolls as Bourque runs wild.
Joe's sing "Where have you gone Charlie Furbush, our program turns a lonely eye to you, wooo, woooo, wooo, wooo, wooo, wooo. What's that you say Father Michaels, Charlie's left for L-S-U, wooo, wooo, wooo; oh L-S-U, wooo, wooo, wooo.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 03, 2007, 04:08:53 PM
What???
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 03, 2007, 04:38:57 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 03, 2007, 12:35:31 PM
Quote from: soxfan42585 on April 02, 2007, 09:05:18 PM
Weather permitting- (snow???) there is a good game on wednesday- USM vs. SJC.

Measuring stick.

Good Citizen Sanborn will have the Joe's super-jacked, but HOFEF counters with his own brand of clipboard mania. USM rolls as Bourque runs wild.
Joe's sing "Where have you gone Charlie Furbush, our program turns a lonely eye to you, wooo, woooo, wooo, wooo, wooo, wooo. What's that you say Father Michaels, Charlie's left for L-S-U, wooo, wooo, wooo; oh L-S-U, wooo, wooo, wooo.

What?

To translate:

Coach Will Sanborn of St. Joe's, who is a great guy, will have his players all hyped-up to play near-by rival USM(the 2 schools are just a few miles away form each other). Ed Flaherty, coach of USM, who is also a good guy and in the coaches Hall of Fame (thus the HOFEF), and is famous for kicking and throwing his clipboard around, will be ready as well. Bourque, is Ryan Bourque, pre-season All-American who plays for USM and is the real deal and will play well.

In the end St. Joe's falls to USM, and the team sings the old Simon & Garfunkel song "Where have you gone Joe Dimaggio, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you woo, wooo, woo." and that they miss Charlie Furbush, a top nation pitching prospect who left their program this year to attend LSU.

Must I explain everything?? Oh yea you are a Red Sox fan, that explains it.  :D
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 03, 2007, 07:50:47 PM
The what? was in reference to charlie furbush being the only way saint joes can beat usm...


they are a complete team.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 03, 2007, 07:58:44 PM
Quote from: soxfan42585 on April 03, 2007, 07:50:47 PM
The what? was in reference to charlie furbush being the only way saint joes can beat usm...

they are a complete team.

I had a short conversation if Coach Sanborn a week ago and It sounds like he has his team going in the right direction.    You can see how he has looked at what his teams is capable of and has tailored the team to take advantages of their strengths.   

I think that Southern Maine has a target on their back because of the expectations and St Joes has something to prove.  All this works in the monk's favor. 

No matter the result, this promises to be a good game.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 03, 2007, 09:28:42 PM
Any good coach would try to get his team to play to their strengths- as USM will try to score often and early.

Looks like it might be snowed out however.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 03, 2007, 10:21:55 PM
First coaches' poll came out yesterday...
1. Wheaton
2. Trinity
3. Tufts
4. Southern Maine
5. ECSU
6. St. Joe's
7. Keene St.
8. Williams
9. Suffolk
10. Bowdoin
11. Salve Regina
12. WNEC

The coaches give no respect to the GNAC and too much respect to the NESCAC, in my opinion...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 06, 2007, 03:07:55 PM
Some games to watch out for this weekend (fri  and sat only, not many--if any--games sunday)

Friday
MIT @ Coast Guard
Endicott @ Babson

Saturday (all double headers)Williams @ Tufts
WPI @ Babson
MIT @ Wheaton
Suffolk @ Wheaton
Southerm Maine @ Eastern Connecticut
Bridgewater State @ Salem State
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: DIII Dad on April 06, 2007, 07:11:24 PM
Suffolk is at Western New England on Sat.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 08, 2007, 07:15:05 PM
Update on New England Games to watch from this weekend

Summary--Wheaton and Eastern flex, everybody else splits


Friday

MIT @ Coast Guard--MIT wins 2-0
Endicott @ Babson---Babson wins 13-7

Saturday (all double headers)
Williams @ Tufts--Split Williams wins 4-3, Tufts wins 4-3
WPI @ Babson---Split WPI wins 3-2, Babson wins 6-5
MIT @ Wheaton--Wheaton Sweeps 17-0 & 15-3
Suffolk @ WNEC---Split, WNEC wins 7-6, Suffolk wins 9-2
Southerm Maine @ Eastern Connecticut---Eastern Sweeps 6-2 & 5-1
Bridgewater State @ Salem State--ppd
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 09, 2007, 03:59:42 PM
April 9 NE coaches poll is out...
1. Trinity (3) 17-3 43 pts.
1. Wheaton (2) 16-6 43 pts.
3. Eastern Connecticut (1) 13-6 38 pts.
4. Tufts 13-5 30 pts.
5. Keene State 14-7 23 pts.
6. St. Joseph's, ME 12-1 10 pts.
7. Western New England 11-7 8 pts.
8. Williams 11-5 7 pts.
Others Receiving Votes: Rhode Island College (5), Suffolk (4), Southern Maine (3), Salve Regina (2).

Trinity has played noone yet. Their record is a result of a very weak schedule. They could conceiveably finish with 27 wins and not make the NESCAC tournament.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Spartan on April 09, 2007, 07:47:41 PM
Is this poll driven strictly by the win/loss record or do coaches vote?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 09, 2007, 08:48:59 PM
From the looks of it, 6 coaches vote...since there are 6 first place votes...

The poll means nothing. The only poll that matters is the one that the NCAA releases in May.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 09, 2007, 11:23:02 PM
I would like to know who/how the poll is determined and what factors go into deciding what makes one team better than the other.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: abc123 on April 10, 2007, 02:13:20 PM
This is to clear up some info regarding the d3 baseball coaches polls.  New england has 6 coaches that gather votes from the other sixty or so coaches in NE.
Each coach is supposed to call their rep with their top 8 choices.  Those votes are compiled by each region and called to a central point.  At that point each are tabulated, hence compiling a top 8 or 10 teams?  No, Bostonian this poll is NOT and indepth poll like the NCAA regional poll that decides the New England Regionals.  I hope this shed some light on how this is done.

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 10, 2007, 03:51:12 PM
National Rankings followed by Regional Rankings

American Baseball Coaches Association/Collegiate Baseball
NCAA Division III Baseball Poll
April 10, 2007
Next poll: April 24
Rank School Record Points Last Rank
1. (7) Wooster (Ohio) 23-0 239 1
2. (1) Chapman (Calif.) 25-4 233 2
3. Emory (Ga.) 26-4 219 4
4. Cortland (N.Y.) State 17-2 214 3
5. Kean (N.J.) 17-3 208 7
6. St. Olaf (Minn.) 14-1 203 9
7. Wheaton (Mass.) 16-6 192 10
8. Texas Lutheran 25-5-1 180 12
9. Salisbury (Md.) 22-5 172 8
10. Washington (Mo.) 22-5 169 17
11. New Jersey 16-7 156 13
12. Eastern Connecticut State 13-6 144 nr
13. Transylvania (Ky.) 17-5 120 24
14. Pacific Lutheran (Wash.) 24-6 118 nr
15. Wartburg (Iowa) 15-6 116 28
16. Rensselaer (N.Y.) 12-4 114 13
17. Wis.-Stevens Point 9-6 112 18
18. Methodist (N.C.) 23-9 107 21
19. Johns Hopkins (Md.) 16-4 105 19
20. Trinity (Conn.) 17-3 101 30
21. Otterbein (Ohio) 14-5 85 27
22. Millsaps (Miss.) 25-9 76 11
23. York (Pa.) 20-5 72 nr
24. St. Thomas (Minn.) 12-6 71 20
25. Ramapo (N.J.) 20-5 37 nr
26t. Pomona-Pitzer (Calif.) 19-8 36 26
26t. Carthage (Wis.) 10-6 36 nr
28. Washington & Jefferson (Pa.) 12-4 29 16
29. Brockport (N.Y.) State 10-7 19 22
30t. Marietta (Ohio) 14-6 11 25
30t. Rhodes (Tenn.) 30-4 14 nr
Also receiving votes and named on more than one ballot (alphabetically): Augustana (Ill),
Texas-Dallas.

Regional Rankings
New England
1. Wheaton (16-6)
2. Eastern Connecticut State (13-6)
3. Trinity (17-3)
4. Southern Maine (9-6)
5. Tufts (13-5)
6. Suffolk (13-7)
7. Western New England (11-7)
8. Williams (11-5)
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Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 10, 2007, 05:33:00 PM
back to the comment about LEC not being a great conference b/c USM lost to JWU and ECSU lost to Babson, we could play that game all day.

For example we could say

WNEC (GNAC) beat Roger Williams (CCC)
Roger Williams beat Springfield (NEWMAC)
Springfield beat Keene State (LEC)
Keene State beat Babson (NEWMAC)
Babson beat Eastern Connecticut (LEC)
Eastern Connecticut Beat WNEC (GNAC)

Can we therefore say that the GNAC is better than the CCC which is better than the NEWMAC which is better than the LEC which is better than the GNAC?

we could go around in cirlcles like that all day



Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on April 10, 2007, 07:34:50 PM
Let's just say they are all pretty darn good................
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 10, 2007, 11:16:23 PM
I think you are talking about a discussion in another topic- but my point was that any team can beat any team based on a pitcher being hot and the team coming out ready to play.  I wasn't trying to say that the GNAC was better than the Little East because of one win.  I was trying to shed some light on the fact that it is hard for someone to argue that an entire conference is head and shoulders above the rest.  JWU is a middle of the GNAC team and they beat what is supposed to be a top of the pile LEC team.  Yes, it is one win, butanything can happen.

My emphasis was on the fact that any team can beat any team at any time.  Except for Newbury against Bridgewater...thats ugly.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 10, 2007, 11:18:35 PM
to add to that- speculation is overrated.  To try and specualte who is better, you would have to watch every game and know who is throwing and whatnot.  Say team A beats team B 10-0, and Team B beats team C 57-1.  Team A should MURDER team C right?  Wrong!  Track record means nothing when you step onto a baseball field.  You are only as good as your next game...
yes?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 11, 2007, 11:49:45 AM
my circular logic point wasn't trying to show that anyone was better than anyone else, it was just to show that you can't go by one game
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 11, 2007, 09:53:52 PM
I was trying to agree with you as well-
one game doesnt take away from what a team has accomplished


anyway-

what makes for an impressive win streak?
a small streak (4-5) where quality teams are beaten?
or a win streak of ten or more games where the team finds a way to win everyday?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 11, 2007, 09:58:20 PM
I agree with watching for streaks.

When trying to see who will be a contender come may i like to look for how teams do when they play good competition in a short period of time.  There are times where a team will play a single game thursday and then double headers on saturday and sunday.  that is 5 games in 4 days and 5 different starting pitchers.  that is when you see what a team can do.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 11, 2007, 10:33:53 PM
and also see if the hitters can keep a consistant focus...
there are many factors and perhaps excuses that can fall upon a team through a season, but a true team and by true, I mean one that will do something come playoff time, is a team that can win consistantly and do what it takes to win a hard stretch of games
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 12, 2007, 09:43:27 AM
I disagree that those individual games have little meaning. I don't think they tell the full story of how strong a team is, but they have alot of meaning because of the potential Pool C bids that NE teams are going after. The LEC, the NESCAC, and maybe the NEWMAC have teams that will have a shot at an at-large bid if they do not win their conference championships. So the midweek games between teams in different conferences have plenty of meaning. So teams like So. Maine, ECSU, Keene St, Wheaton, Tufts, Trinity, Amherst, and Williams are definitely going to need to help their at-large chances by winning as many of those non conference games.
That's why ECSU losing to Babson, So. Maine losing to JWU, or Tufts losing to Brandeis should not be dismissed.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 12, 2007, 12:45:36 PM
haha i agree on that too- we could go full circle all day
losses along the way mean very little to how a team is so long as they dont make habit of it.  however- in terms of recieving an at large bid they do have resounding effects...
i agree with everyone who has a point on this topic

but bostonian- back to my point about streaks
do you think the powers to be take into consideration what a streak reflects about a team.  say wheaton wins 15 in a row.. and then drops one to a subpar team- which will stick in the mind of the committee?

i dunno- its pretty interesting stuff
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 12, 2007, 12:55:35 PM
soxfan,
I'm not sure how the committee does things, but I do know that there is an index which cretaes the NCAA regional rankings. The index takes all of your in-region games and assigns a number of points to each game depending on the strength of the opponent, home or away, and win or loss. That index is then calculated and used for seeding purposes, I believe. I'm not sure if there are other big factors, so the committee might just look at the numbers and create a balanced field.

As for streaks, it's tough to tell. Look at Trinity. They are 17-3....ranked in the top 20...#1 or #2 in NE. But their schedule has been a joke so far, and they lost 2 of 3 to Bowdoin. Now the rankings say that they are a top team. But who knows what the committee will think, and who knows how good their index will be. Granted, they still play 3 vs. Tufts, 2 vs. Amherst and Brandeis, and Eastern CT, so we'll know more about them in a few weeks, but at this point, it's impossible to know how strong they are compared to a ECSU or Wheaton, teams that have played such strong competetion...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 12, 2007, 01:04:11 PM
Thats interesting sutff-
yeah it looks like the truth will be out about Trinity pretty soon- good or bad.

It seems the ship has sailed for USM- I imagine a tournaround will still find them atop the polls
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 12, 2007, 03:02:35 PM
Given the weather in NE, both today, and the predictions for the next week I think it will be difficult for teams to complete their regular schedules, heck even getting all the conference games in will be a challenge.

Given that I wonder how this might influence the committee regarding at large bids? Could make it difficult for NE teams to garner an at large selection.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 12, 2007, 03:07:26 PM
Not really. Remember that the index is an average. It is calculated by taking the points earned through the schedule and diving it by the number of games. So if a team only gets 30 games in, it still won't affect the team's index. If the committee uses that index as the biggest factor, teams won't get penalized by having games rained out.

It will be real interesting if the conference tournies get rained out, though! That almost happened last year with the NESCAC.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 12, 2007, 05:51:15 PM
have any tournaments been rained out in recent memory?
and if so, were the regular season champs crowned and how did that play out in terms of NCAA bids?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 13, 2007, 01:45:00 PM
Games to watch for this weekend in new england

Friday
Keene State @ Wheaton
Southern Maine @ St. Joe's
Williams @ Amherst
Bowdion @ Tufts----all three (fri and two saturday) games with live video online www.jumbocast.com

Saturday (all DH)
Rhode Island College @ Southern Maine
Eastern Connecticut @ Umass Boston
MIT @ WPI
WNEC @ Johnson and Wales
Westfield State @ Worcester State
Bowdion @ Tufts
Amherst @ Williams

Sunday
Bridgewater State @ Salem State DH

I put all of these on the list for different reasons, some are key conference games, some are just good games.  please add to this list
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Spence on April 13, 2007, 01:47:08 PM
I don't think I can! Awesome work.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 13, 2007, 03:09:28 PM
Wheaton - Keene State game was a Sunday tilt @ KSC but was moved. I hear the KSC field is far from playable, and they may have to move games to the High School field or worse continue on the road. This is a team that has played 23 games and none at home. Saturday's home DH has already been postponed to 4/27.

Given the weather, the field conditions and the lack of drainage that field has, they may not get a home game until May.

WOW
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Spence on April 13, 2007, 04:29:43 PM
Hopefully some people keep that in mind down the road.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 13, 2007, 07:40:18 PM
Looks like Keene St. gave it away today....4-3 Wheaton in extra innings...KSC was up 3-2 going into the 9th.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 13, 2007, 08:04:40 PM
i just looked at the box score and the play by play.

KSC was actually up 3-1 going into the bottom of the ninth.  Two unearned runs in the ninth tied it up.  looks like it was a good game though. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 14, 2007, 06:50:56 AM
Keene State threw their ace - Stromgren- since they do not have any conference games this weekend. Postponed -(unplayable field conditions at KSC): KSC had a 3-1 lead, brought in their ace closer, E-6, hit, wild pitch and wango-tango-tie game. Wheaton goes onto win in 10.

KSC now faces 8 conference games in the span of 8 days between 4/20-4/28.

Then a Grand Finale against the Evil Empire in early May.

If RIC plays well they could be the 2 seed in the LEC.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 14, 2007, 09:36:57 AM
While ECSU is Playing away at UMASS Boston today, U of Maine is using their stadium today ( and yesterday) to play U Maryland Baltimore County.

ECSU field in wonderful shape
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 14, 2007, 11:28:51 AM
hopefully teams that can play this weekend will get their games in- the forecast for sunday- monday looks grim
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 14, 2007, 03:25:18 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 14, 2007, 06:50:56 AM
Keene State threw their ace - Stromgren- since they do not have any conference games this weekend. Postponed -(unplayable field conditions at KSC): KSC had a 3-1 lead, brought in their ace closer, E-6, hit, wild pitch and wango-tango-tie game. Wheaton goes onto win in 10.

KSC now faces 8 conference games in the span of 8 days between 4/20-4/28.

Then a Grand Finale against the Evil Empire in early May.

If RIC plays well they could be the 2 seed in the LEC.
KSC 's loss reflects more on the fact that they have not had an outside practise yet this year than on their ability as a team. A couple of little things did not get done right which may have played out differently with some practise. Practise for this team has consisted of pre game warmups. Also, of more importance than the loss to Wheaton is that Ford left the game holding his right elbow in the ninth inning.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 14, 2007, 09:01:44 PM
Just reporting the facts of the game. Too bad about the Ford kid.

BTW- There is not a team north of the Mass border that hasn't got similar problems, or they have worked extra hard to solve the field problem like St.Joe's where they had players shoveling a lot more snow than So. NH saw. St. Joe's played 5 games at home in the past week because they put the effort into the field and got it ready for play. Great job Coach Sanborn. Didn't the High School team in Keene play at home this week? Could KSC have used the that field to practice?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 14, 2007, 11:03:39 PM
 Didn't the High School team in Keene play at home this week? Could KSC have used the that field to practice?

No.  They played Monday night. In Keene, only the HS varsity practises on the HS field. Tuesday the field was not playable. Owl Stadium is in a wetlands area. They will be lucky to be ready thursday. My point about not geing able to practise outside i that it is difficult to compete with top teams who have been practising outside, and I think it is a compliment that they are competetive against teams like Wheaton without being about being able to work on some fundamentals.

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Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 15, 2007, 04:49:43 PM
Results (sorry no scores this time, just the winners listed after the game)

Friday
Keene State @ Wheaton--Wheaton
Southern Maine @ St. Joe's--Mother Nature
Williams @ Amherst--Williams
Bowdion @ Tufts----Tufts

Saturday (all DH)
Rhode Island College @ Southern Maine--USM Sweeps
Eastern Connecticut @ Umass Boston--ECSU Sweeps
MIT @ WPI--Split
WNEC @ Johnson and Wales--Split
Westfield State @ Worcester State--Westfield Sweeps
Bowdion @ Tufts--Split
Amherst @ Williams--Split

Sunday
Bridgewater State @ Salem State DH--Mother Nature

Notes
Westfield moves to 6-0 in the MASCAC (meat of the schedule remaining)

Tufts, Trinity, Williams, and Amherst move into drivers seat to get into NESCAC playoffs (two NCAA teams from last year, Bowdion and Middlebury, on the outside looking in, still games to be played though)

Sunday rain outs, this is getting crazy, once the weather clears up it should be a good indicator of what teams are made of, since they will play a lot of games in a very short span, just like they would have in conference tourneys and NCAAs

ECSU sweeps Umass Boston, no word yet from JCON, hopefully he is ok, maybe someone should check on him and makesure he is ok.   Just kidding of course, i actually like that he gets behind his team and shows confidence.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 15, 2007, 04:57:36 PM
JCON along with his team have left the building. So much hope all dashed this weekend as they were swept by the Huskies
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 15, 2007, 05:33:19 PM
Sunday rain outs, this is getting crazy, once the weather clears up it should be a good indicator of what teams are made of, since they will play a lot of games in a very short span, just like they would have in conference tourneys and NCAAs

ECSU knows what above is all about.  (last years LEC and NCAA  NY Regional Tourney)

For more info call Coach Holowaty
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 15, 2007, 10:37:32 PM
Haven't heard much about Middlebury- they had a really decent squad last year.  where are they at now?  It appears Bowdoin has fallen off because of graduation...

anyone?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon2134 on April 15, 2007, 10:38:33 PM
It was ugly boys the first game Conway pitched more than well enough to win But the team just did not hit they were no hit by Gilbliar into the 6th inning.

We are now 1-5 in the Conference and 2 games Back of making the tournament in general But there is plenty of conference play left and they will sneak in there and seeing as how theres not shot at an auto bid anything can happen once tourney tiem comes around.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 16, 2007, 06:17:45 AM
Middlebury lost some offense to graduation but returned their entire pitching staff. However, after Britton, the staff is not all that strong.
Bowdoin lost a lot to graduation and their ace is done for the year becaue of elbow problems.

Both can still make the playoffs. If Trinity sweeps Tufts, Bowdoin would sneak into 2nd. If Tufts takes 2 of 3 or sweeps Trinity. Bowdoin would finish 2nd. If Middlebury takes the Amherst series, they'll get into the playoffs.

If neither makes the playoffs, it'll be the 2nd year in a row where the NESCAC NCAA teams don't make the conf. tourney the next year. Last year, it was Amherst and Trinity.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Spartan on April 16, 2007, 12:30:47 PM
If Trinity takes 2 of 3 from Tufts, would we not have a three-way tie?  Do you know how ties are broken?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 16, 2007, 12:45:06 PM
Old spartan,
If Trinity takes 2 of 3, the 3 way tie would be broken by best ovrall record because their head to head records would all be the same. Trinity would probably come in first, and Tufts would come in 2nd.

Personally, I think Trinity could sweep this weekend. Tufts is really banged up, and the injuries are starting to take their toll. The offense is sputterin, so the pitchers are really going to have to cme up big if the Jumbos want to get to the conference tournament.

The weird thing is that if Tufts somehow manages to take 2 of 3, it would knock Trinity out of the tournament. Trinity would be ranked the #1 team in NE but they would miss their conference tournament.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Spartan on April 16, 2007, 12:50:53 PM
I am sorry to hear that about Tufts, obviously you want the teams to each be at full strength for a good contest.  In any case I hope to be there to see the games.  thanks for the response.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 16, 2007, 02:30:19 PM
It's weird becuse Trinity went through the same things last year when their top 3 pitchers were all hurt. Now, Tufts is the team that comes in without some of it's top players.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 17, 2007, 04:33:31 PM
anybody actually playing this week?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 17, 2007, 06:04:23 PM
In theory, St Joe's and USM have a home and home Thursday and Friday. I have my doubts!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 17, 2007, 06:07:53 PM
also "in theory" i will wake up early and go to the gym before work.

my money is on no games in maine this week and i will hit snooze multiple times and not been seen at the gym
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 17, 2007, 06:48:12 PM
Had a friend call me today to say that the Keene State coaching staff is very concerned that they have lost their field (currently under water) and that they may not get a home game in this season! WOW wonder if that has ever happened before.

Plywood State and the EEIT University also have issues. Central Mass teams are hurting as well. Snowed this morning here then hard rain all day.

Maybe college baseball should be a fall sport?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 17, 2007, 07:36:32 PM
Keene State Athletic fields are built on wetlands and a flood plane. The Corps of Engineer had to reduce the level up river so they opened the dam. Well, the flood plane flooded. The weather looks good starting sometime tomorrow lasting forever. The dam was closed by 3:30, but I heard there is damage to the mound and home plate. However priorities at KSC seem to be Softball, Lacrosse, Track, then baseball. 

But I think we'll be cutting grass and playing baseball within a week.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 17, 2007, 08:12:59 PM
I can imagine many high school teams have had home seasons cancelled- and its forseeable that a team has lost a season as well.

It is interesting you say fall baseball.

Not Having lights makes it very difficult to get games in mid afternoon in october... playoffs into november would be miserable.
at least for those lucky enough to continue into postseason play the weather keeps getting warmer and better baseball is played in warmer weather.

Lets be honest- how fun is it to hit or pitch whens its wet and rainy and 38 degrees?


I dunno- its interesting- you would lose those dreary weeks upon weeks and months upon months of preseason training in the gym.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 17, 2007, 08:32:51 PM
Well I actually was somewhat serious about Fall being college baseball season.

Fall tends to be a drier season, generally speaking; the cold is an issue either time of year and most of NE must deal with it in the spring as well, the fields are dry and thawed; most players are coming off a summer season and are in decent "baseball" shape, at least more so than in the spring after 4 months of beer, pizza and girlfriends.

I know it will never change but it is interesting to consider.

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 17, 2007, 08:42:10 PM
But a player who has been training under his coach all preseason is a different player than one who played summerball- and perhaps hurt themselves
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 17, 2007, 09:05:31 PM
I've always thought that baseball in the fall is better in New England. The drawback is that you run into the cold just as playoffs should be starting.  September through Columbus Day are usually great after that it can get a little iffy.  sorry to hear the KSC has damage to their field but they're probably not alone after this latest round of weather. Hope it's easily repaired.  Pray for clearing weather and extended sunny and dry. It would be nice to have something resembling baseball weather before playoff season starts.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 17, 2007, 09:13:06 PM
I'd have the pre-season start mid-August. Season could start late August.  A 40 game schedule could be completed by Oct 15-20th. Conf. tournaments could get dicey in NE, Wisconsin area. Heck, teams could go to Fla or Ariz. to end their seasons.

Very few D-III players "train" in the summer. The top players, a dozen or so, get to play in the Cape or NECBL; the rest scratch around in Legion to age 19, or the Cranberry League or a twilight league.

Again, the fall is not going to happen, and it has some problems, but weather would not be the factor it has been 2 of the past 3 years as it has in NE.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 17, 2007, 09:26:00 PM
interesting proposal! they start football around that time, don't they?  I know it won't fly but it makes a good discussion.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Spartan on April 17, 2007, 09:36:40 PM
I say we move New England to southern California!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 17, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
Nice!  We'll just rent a U-HAUL and pack it all up!

We might be slowed by poor driving conditions however...

Maybe we can play some games along the way as well!  That'd be awesome!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 18, 2007, 01:07:12 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 17, 2007, 07:36:32 PM
Keene State Athletic fields are built on wetlands and a flood plane. The Corps of Engineer had to reduce the level up river so they opened the dam. Well, the flood plane flooded. The weather looks good starting sometime tomorrow lasting forever. The dam was closed by 3:30, but I heard there is damage to the mound and home plate. However priorities at KSC seem to be Softball, Lacrosse, Track, then baseball. 

But I think we'll be cutting grass and playing baseball within a week.

Keene State has a track team? Where is the track? I know they have a X-Country and a spring running team, but do they actually have a track? The times I have been there I never saw any actual track. How come baseball plays 4th fiddle? They seem to have a quailty program that continues to improve.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 18, 2007, 07:31:55 PM

Keene State has a track team? Where is the track? I know they have a X-Country and a spring running team, but do they actually have a track? The times I have been there I never saw any actual track. How come baseball plays 4th fiddle? They seem to have a quailty program that continues to improve.
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They run and throw and put and all the other things track partccipants do. There is no outdoor running track. Baseball is expensive, requires a lot of attention, brings in no money and until the last few years had little distinction. They are definitely on the right track now, and should get more financial and physical support, with Howe a full time Head coach and Testo employed by the college full time.

To any one who knows Marty... His daughter Madison came home today...great news
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 18, 2007, 08:35:10 PM
Western New England swept Daniel Webster in DH action today.

Daniel Webster used a female pitcher in one game. Christal Fitzgerald, I attached a link to an article about her. Interesting.

http://www.dwc.edu/athletics/Baseball/FitzgeraldNashuaFeature.shtml


Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 18, 2007, 10:27:20 PM
+1 wordsmith!  Good article!  :)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 19, 2007, 03:19:52 PM
Thanks, I try.

By the way University of Southern Maine (EEIT) vs St. Joe's @ 3 today.

This is Maine's version of a backyard brawl. See ya after the game.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 19, 2007, 03:56:14 PM
Wordsmith,

not sure i really even want to know but why is USM EEIT?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 19, 2007, 08:17:13 PM
Quote from: don mattingly on April 19, 2007, 03:56:14 PM
Wordsmith,

not sure i really even want to know but why is USM EEIT?


Oh that. Well EEIT stands for Evil Empire in Training, see EConn already holds the Evil Empire title-(with all due respect EConnAlum). But HOFEF and the USM program is there ready to take the throne, sort of in training.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 19, 2007, 08:24:16 PM
Greg Ford - Keene State DH went for the cycle today in an 8-0 win over Westfield State. I attached a nice article about the feat.

http://www.keene.edu/athletics/news_article.cfm?news_id=3522

By the way, KSC is 25 games into the season and they have not played a home game. The Owls have a game vs Plywood State tomorrow at Merchant's Field in Manchester followed by a Double AA (is that redondate?) pro game.

KSCer??? How does the Owl field look for the weekend schedule?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 19, 2007, 08:29:47 PM
And finally - the Backyard Brawl goes to the EEIT. So. Maine scored 5 in the top of the 8th to take the lead. The Monks put 2 on the board in the bottom of the 9th but could not get the tying run across.

Too bad Furbush left for LSU. A perfect spot for him in the 6th or 8th inning.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 19, 2007, 11:06:47 PM
so i got distracted from doing my real work and ran some numbers. 

i realize that this isn't a true representation of conference power but it is still interesting to look at.

please remember not everyone plays everyone, if each team in new england played each team once, then this would be very good indicator or conference strength, this is interesting, that is all.

what looking at it and saying, wow i never would have thought that, think about geography, for example, the NESCAC was 11-5 vs the LEC, sounds surprising, but think about the fact that Plymouth State is up in Northern NESCAC country, the NESCAC is 5-0 vs Plymouth.

enjoy

Conference   Percent of Out Of Conference Games Won
NEWMAC                 63%
NESCAC                  62%
LEC                      54%
GNAC                    47%
NAC                     43%
MASCAC                  40%
CCC                     37%

Here are the individual conference breakdowns


NESCAC vs....
GNAC   1-1
NEWMAC   5-5
MASCAC   5-1
LEC   11-5
NAC   4-3
CCC   0-1

GNAC vs...
NESCAC   1-1
NEWMAC   2-3
MASCAC   4-2
LEC   2-2
NAC   5-7
CCC   4-5

NEWMAC vs...
NESCAC   5-5
GNAC   3-2
MASCAC   5-4
LEC   8-5
NAC   3-0
CCC   7-2

MASCAC vs...
NESCAC   1-5
GNAC   2-4
NEWMAC   4-5
LEC   3-10
NAC   5-1
CCC   3-2

LEC vs...
NESCAC   5-11
GNAC   2-2
NEWMAC   5-8
MASCAC   10-3
NAC   3-2
CCC   5-0

NAC vs...
NESCAC   3-4
GNAC   7-5
NEWMAC   0-3
MASCAC   1-5
LEC   2-3
CCC   5-4

CCC vs...
NESCAC   1-0
GNAC   5-4
NEWMAC   2-7
MASCAC   2-3
LEC   0-5
NAC   4-5

the most amazing thing about this is that after i compiled it, the wins and losses actually added up 155-155.  i was not that confident i would have it work out that well.  there may be a mistake in there somewhere though.







Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 20, 2007, 12:26:12 AM
WOW amazing work!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 20, 2007, 11:18:06 AM
Really nice job. If I had the ability I would give you a +1 Karma point!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 20, 2007, 11:24:23 AM
I hate to keep dwelling on this, but, I have followed college Bball for many years and cannot ever remember this happening.

Keene State has rescheduled more games away from their home swamp. Thus their first home game is now not scheduled until Friday April 27th!! They will have played 30 games before they have a home game.   

Good news is their last 6 regular season games are all at home.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 20, 2007, 12:58:37 PM
games to watch this weekend, please add if there are others

Friday
Tufts @ Trinity
Middlebury @ Amherst
WNEC @ Brandeis
Wheaton @ WPI
USM @ St. Joe's Maine

Saturday (all DH)
Tufts @ Trinity
Middlebury @ Amherst
Wheaton @ Brandeis
ECSU @ RIC

Sunday
Wheaton @ USM
Bridgewater @ Westfield (DH)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 20, 2007, 07:26:50 PM
University of EEIT sweeps the home & home vs. St. Joe's. Maybe the fallen light pole was an omen for the Monks?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 20, 2007, 07:39:37 PM


KSCer??? How does the Owl field look for the weekend schedule?
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During the game at Merchants stadium - A beautiful stadium by the way, they really did a good job there, except parking is bad - they announced that the game had been moved to Plymouth. News to the coach, the SID and everyone else. I can't believe that the field could not be ready after another day like today. As of yesterday they were planning on playing at home.  Maybe the grounds crew doesn't work on Saturdays. They did move the softball game too.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 20, 2007, 07:43:18 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 20, 2007, 11:24:23 AM
I hate to keep dwelling on this, but, I have followed college Bball for many years and cannot ever remember this happening.

Keene State has rescheduled more games away from their home swamp. Thus their first home game is now not scheduled until Friday April 27th!! They will have played 30 games before they have a home game.   

Good news is their last 6 regular season games are all at home.

They have stupidly scheduled the make up of West Conn for tuesday the 24th. It's their game to reschedule and they do it on tuesday after four league games on the weekend. Death wish, or maybe they dont want to win out.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 20, 2007, 07:50:58 PM
Two big games in the NESCAC leave 2 teams in must-sweep situations for tommorrow.
Middlebury beat Amherst 3-2 without Britton, so Amherst must sweep tommorrow or Middlebury will have the inside track on the 2 seed in the NESCAC west. They'll need a huge effort from Donahue because Britton may be the most talented pitcher in the NESCAC.

Tufts beat Trinity 2-1, with Derek Rice outdueling Chandler Barnard. Trinity must sweep tommorow or they will probably miss the NESCAC playoffs as well. If Tufts take 1 of 2, they will be in great shape to win the NESCAC East.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 20, 2007, 09:01:13 PM
Friday's Results
Tufts @ Trinity--Tufts
Middlebury @ Amherst--Middlebury
WNEC @ Brandeis--WNEC
Wheaton @ WPI--Wheaton
USM @ St. Joe's Maine--USM
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 20, 2007, 09:10:47 PM

They have stupidly scheduled the make up of West Conn for tuesday the 24th. It's their game to reschedule and they do it on tuesday after four league games on the weekend. Death wish, or maybe they dont want to win out.
[/quote]

Yea, I mentioned this a while back in a posting, 8 games in 8 days is tough. I guess I'd question that they could win out even if the schedule were in their favor with 4 games against the Evil Empire and Mini-Maine.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 21, 2007, 04:07:15 PM
perfect game tufts at trinity game today, trinity wins 4-0 behind Tim Kiely
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 21, 2007, 04:41:13 PM
Tufts leads 8-3 after 6 in game 3. Amherst lost game 1. Trinity is fighting for their NESCAC lives, and it looks like Amherst will not make the tourney this year again.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 21, 2007, 10:03:02 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 20, 2007, 09:10:47 PM

They have stupidly scheduled the make up of West Conn for tuesday the 24th. It's their game to reschedule and they do it on tuesday after four league games on the weekend. Death wish, or maybe they dont want to win out.

Yea, I mentioned this a while back in a posting, 8 games in 8 days is tough. I guess I'd question that they could win out even if the schedule were in their favor with 4 games against the Evil Empire and Mini-Maine.
[/quote]
They can and they should.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 22, 2007, 08:22:47 AM
Quote from: kscer on April 21, 2007, 10:03:02 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 20, 2007, 09:10:47 PM

They have stupidly scheduled the make up of West Conn for tuesday the 24th. It's their game to reschedule and they do it on tuesday after four league games on the weekend. Death wish, or maybe they dont want to win out.

Yea, I mentioned this a while back in a posting, 8 games in 8 days is tough. I guess I'd question that they could win out even if the schedule were in their favor with 4 games against the Evil Empire and Mini-Maine.
They can and they should.
[/quote]

KSCer- so you are predicting that Keene State will sweep EConn and USM? WOW heady stuff, don't get me wrong I'd love to see it, but .... hey wouldn't it be ironic if Keene State got to host the LEC Tourney at the SWAMP after playing so few home games?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 22, 2007, 09:20:46 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 22, 2007, 08:22:47 AM
Quote from: kscer on April 21, 2007, 10:03:02 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 20, 2007, 09:10:47 PM

They have stupidly scheduled the make up of West Conn for tuesday the 24th. It's their game to reschedule and they do it on tuesday after four league games on the weekend. Death wish, or maybe they dont want to win out.

Yea, I mentioned this a while back in a posting, 8 games in 8 days is tough. I guess I'd question that they could win out even if the schedule were in their favor with 4 games against the Evil Empire and Mini-Maine.

They can and they should.

KSCer- so you are predicting that Keene State will sweep EConn and USM? WOW heady stuff, don't get me wrong I'd love to see it, but .... hey wouldn't it be ironic if Keene State got to host the LEC Tourney at the SWAMP after playing so few home games?
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That would not be irony, but divine intervention, or kharma. Just a possibility, but KSC did sweep ESCU at Eastern last year, and I think they are planning on winning.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 22, 2007, 12:14:41 PM
Good luck to KSC on thier up coming schedule vs Evil CT ST U ::) and Southern  Maine.  All I can say is that they better have thier pitching ready, because they will need it.   

Anyway, Keene needs to at least split with Eastern to share LEC. Assuming they sweep SM, which is not a certainty

Having said all this, its all about the LEC Tourny anyway to see who goes to NCAA Regional.  Thats where you  see who can play under the pressure which separate the men from the boys.

This weeks game with Trinity will be a fun one to watch in Htfd
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 22, 2007, 01:46:10 PM
For what it is worth EConnAlum here's  hoping the Evil Empire beats Trinity. ;)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 22, 2007, 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 22, 2007, 01:46:10 PM
For what it is worth EConnAlum here's  hoping the Evil Empire beats Trinity. ;)

Trinity has a great program!!  However, it will only help with there DIII national ranking, but thats about it.

They need to really focus on thier LEC conference games and specifically Kenne State.  Then the LEC Tourny.

Thing I worry about with ECSU is thier defense.  Too many errors.  If they want to be a national champion they need to play 0.97-0.98 fld %.  I know thats demanding, more like D-I but to get past Chapman, George Fox etc, this is where they need to be.  If you look at years they were National Champs,  I think defence and pitching is what actually got them there
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on April 22, 2007, 08:30:11 PM
Score by Innings                              R  H  E
-------------------------------------------
U. of Southern Maine 001 101 000 -  3 10  1
UMass Boston........    201 001 10X -  5 10  0
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Looks like KSU and ECSU have the edge on hosting the LEC tourney
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Spence on April 22, 2007, 08:45:30 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 22, 2007, 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 22, 2007, 01:46:10 PM
For what it is worth EConnAlum here's  hoping the Evil Empire beats Trinity. ;)

Trinity has a great program!!  However, it will only help with there DIII national ranking, but thats about it.

They need to really focus on thier LEC conference games and specifically Kenne State.  Then the LEC Tourny.

Thing I worry about with ECSU is thier defense.  Too many errors.  If they want to be a national champion they need to play 0.97-0.98 fld %.  I know thats demanding, more like D-I but to get past Chapman, George Fox etc, this is where they need to be.  If you look at years they were National Champs,  I think defence and pitching is what actually got them there

Good defense is important, but fielding .970 or .980 is a pretty high standard. By the end of the season it would be very nice to be fielding at that level, but to do that for a whole season is very very hard.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 22, 2007, 08:53:18 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on April 22, 2007, 08:30:11 PM
Score by Innings                              R  H  E
-------------------------------------------
U. of Southern Maine 001 101 000 -  3 10  1
UMass Boston........    201 001 10X -  5 10  0
-------------------------------------------
Looks like KSU and ECSU have the edge on hosting the LEC tourney
There will be a showdown in the wetlands at Keene on May 5th.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on April 22, 2007, 08:59:16 PM
Should be fun.....but this weekend first.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 23, 2007, 08:37:46 PM
KSC has to sweep ESCU to host the tourney. They can split with USM but they need to sweep ESCU, and they have done that before. If Stromgren matches against Gilbair, it could be one you remember forever.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 23, 2007, 08:56:11 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 23, 2007, 08:37:46 PM
KSC has to sweep ESCU to host the tourney. They can split with USM but they need to sweep ESCU, and they have done that before. If Stromgren matchs against Ghiblai, it cold be on yopu remember forever.

kscer- Are you from a different planet? Dude your typing and/or spelling is atrocious!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 23, 2007, 09:19:25 PM
It ain't me babe.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 24, 2007, 09:31:09 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 22, 2007, 08:45:30 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 22, 2007, 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 22, 2007, 01:46:10 PM
For what it is worth EConnAlum here's  hoping the Evil Empire beats Trinity. ;)

Trinity has a great program!!  However, it will only help with there DIII national ranking, but thats about it.

They need to really focus on thier LEC conference games and specifically Kenne State.  Then the LEC Tourny.

Thing I worry about with ECSU is thier defense.  Too many errors.  If they want to be a national champion they need to play 0.97-0.98 fld %.  I know thats demanding, more like D-I but to get past Chapman, George Fox etc, this is where they need to be.  If you look at years they were National Champs,  I think defence and pitching is what actually got them there

Good defense is important, but fielding .970 or .980 is a pretty high standard. By the end of the season it would be very nice to be fielding at that level, but to do that for a whole season is very very hard.

Spence, your right, but eliminate the unearned runs generated by the difference in a, say .940 and .970 fld % and you have a shot at winning a lot more ball games and at the same time, taken a lot of pressure off the pitching staff.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on April 27, 2007, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 23, 2007, 08:37:46 PM
KSC has to sweep ESCU to host the tourney. They can split with USM but they need to sweep ESCU, and they have done that before. If Stromgren matches against Gilbair, it could be one you remember forever.

Remember forever.....wow.....lol....why?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 28, 2007, 07:01:53 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on April 27, 2007, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 23, 2007, 08:37:46 PM
KSC has to sweep ESCU to host the tourney. They can split with USM but they need to sweep ESCU, and they have done that before. If Stromgren matches against Gilbair, it could be one you remember forever.

Remember forever.....wow.....lol....why?

No doubt it will be an exciting matchup.

But remember Kcer there is a LEC Tournament after.  Which is more important
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 28, 2007, 07:37:44 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 28, 2007, 07:01:53 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on April 27, 2007, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 23, 2007, 08:37:46 PM
KSC has to sweep ESCU to host the tourney. They can split with USM but they need to sweep ESCU, and they have done that before. If Stromgren matches against Gilbair, it could be one you remember forever.

Remember forever.....wow.....lol....why?

No doubt it will be an exciting matchup.

But remember Kcer there is a LEC Tournament after.  Which is more important
Hosting the tournament is the first step to winning it. I never realized how nice it is to play at home until this week. I still think KSC has the pitching and the defense and the character to sweep Eastern and win the tourney. Today was step two, sending USM home with two losses.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 28, 2007, 07:54:22 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 28, 2007, 07:37:44 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 28, 2007, 07:01:53 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on April 27, 2007, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 23, 2007, 08:37:46 PM
KSC has to sweep ESCU to host the tourney. They can split with USM but they need to sweep ESCU, and they have done that before. If Stromgren matches against Gilbair, it could be one you remember forever.

Remember forever.....wow.....lol....why?

No doubt it will be an exciting matchup.

But remember Kcer there is a LEC Tournament after.  Which is more important
Hosting the tournament is the first step to winning it. I never realized how nice it is to play at home until this week. I still think KSC has the pitching and the defense and the character to sweep Eastern and win the tourney. Today was step two, sending USM home with two losses.

As long as the KSC BB field is not under water ;)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 28, 2007, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 28, 2007, 07:54:22 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 28, 2007, 07:37:44 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 28, 2007, 07:01:53 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on April 27, 2007, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 23, 2007, 08:37:46 PM
KSC has to sweep ESCU to host the tourney. They can split with USM but they need to sweep ESCU, and they have done that before. If Stromgren matches against Gilbair, it could be one you remember forever.

Remember forever.....wow.....lol....why?

No doubt it will be an exciting matchup.

But remember Kcer there is a LEC Tournament after.  Which is more important
Hosting the tournament is the first step to winning it. I never realized how nice it is to play at home until this week. I still think KSC has the pitching and the defense and the character to sweep Eastern and win the tourney. Today was step two, sending USM home with two losses.

As long as the KSC BB field is not under water ;)

Not to worry ESCAlum, remember you have Holywater as a Coach ;D
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 28, 2007, 08:17:45 PM
I guess I now know why you are called "Wordsmith"

Hilarious, I like  that - "Holywater " !!! particularly since I am Roman Catholic

Bravo Wordsmith!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 28, 2007, 08:21:21 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 28, 2007, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 28, 2007, 07:54:22 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 28, 2007, 07:37:44 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 28, 2007, 07:01:53 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on April 27, 2007, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 23, 2007, 08:37:46 PM
KSC has to sweep ESCU to host the tourney. They can split with USM but they need to sweep ESCU, and they have done that before. If Stromgren matches against Gilbair, it could be one you remember forever.

Remember forever.....wow.....lol....why?

No doubt it will be an exciting matchup.

But remember Kcer there is a LEC Tournament after.  Which is more important
Hosting the tournament is the first step to winning it. I never realized how nice it is to play at home until this week. I still think KSC has the pitching and the defense and the character to sweep Eastern and win the tourney. Today was step two, sending USM home with two losses.

As long as the KSC BB field is not under water ;)

Not to worry ESCAlum, remember you have Holywater as a Coach ;D
But Kharma is in Keene. The field will be dry and the wind blowing as it does  at Owl stadium,(an incredible misnomer, by the way) and the boys of winter/spring will remember the days in Maine, and how close they came. They believe in themselves and dont need divine intervention.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 28, 2007, 08:24:23 PM
KSCer - who throws game 2 for the Owls? Maybe, Morin, or Chevalier. I was not impressed with what I saw from Maybe today. A patient line-up will have him out of the game by the third inning.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 28, 2007, 09:00:13 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 28, 2007, 08:24:23 PM
KSCer - who throws game 2 for the Owls? Maybe, Morin, or Chevalier. I was not impressed with what I saw from Maybe today. A patient line-up will have him out of the game by the third inning.
I really don't know how they will handle this. If it were me I would throw Morin. Chevalier is more effective for a few innings, and when he is out of the defense, it hurts. Or I may look for a group to pitch. But as Ecsu says winning the tournament is more important than regular season. If KSC loses the first game, they will protect pitching for the tournament (which I don't believe will happen).
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 29, 2007, 09:51:29 PM
Wanted to throw out the question to everyone about what tournament format they think is best.  from looking through the conference websites i can see a few different formats.

4 Team Double Elimination--NESCAC, MASCAC, & NAC
6 Team Double Elimination--LEC
Single Elimination Play In then 4 Team Double Elimination--NEWMAC & GNAC

I have looked at the CCC tourney results and i can't follow it, i can't figure out what format it is, definitely 8 teams, and you can lose once and not be out but that is all i can figure out.

Of those listed i would prefer the 4 team double elimination, makes it harder to get into the tourney and gets rid of the possibility of a team running into one hot pitcher and being eliminated.

It isn't in any of the conferences in New England but I would prefer 4 teams, with best 2 of 3 semi finals and then best 2 of 3 finals.  For conferences with a late tourney (LEC & NESCAC) it would be tough but for the others it wouldn't be that bad.  Semi Finals Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and then finals Friday, Saturday, Sunday.  If you want to save on travel you could have a double header in there.  i think it would be the best way to determine what the best team is.  but that is just my opinion.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: MSG77 on May 01, 2007, 03:26:11 PM
Quote from: don mattingly on April 29, 2007, 09:51:29 PM
Wanted to throw out the question to everyone about what tournament format they think is best.  from looking through the conference websites i can see a few different formats.

4 Team Double Elimination--NESCAC, MASCAC, & NAC
6 Team Double Elimination--LEC
Single Elimination Play In then 4 Team Double Elimination--NEWMAC & GNAC

I have looked at the CCC tourney results and i can't follow it, i can't figure out what format it is, definitely 8 teams, and you can lose once and not be out but that is all i can figure out.

Of those listed i would prefer the 4 team double elimination, makes it harder to get into the tourney and gets rid of the possibility of a team running into one hot pitcher and being eliminated.

It isn't in any of the conferences in New England but I would prefer 4 teams, with best 2 of 3 semi finals and then best 2 of 3 finals.  For conferences with a late tourney (LEC & NESCAC) it would be tough but for the others it wouldn't be that bad.  Semi Finals Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and then finals Friday, Saturday, Sunday.  If you want to save on travel you could have a double header in there.  i think it would be the best way to determine what the best team is.  but that is just my opinion.

No baseball tournament should ever have a single elimination component IMO.  Too much risk of a better team having a bad game against a good pitcher and then they are done.

4 team DE - a bit too exclusive I think.  Too easy for top seed.  Can win tourney in only 3 games.  If you go 2-0 with your 1 and 2 (all # refer to starters), you have to get beat twice by the other team throwing their 4 and 5 against your 3 and 4.  Seems like too much of an advantage.  I think the NESCAC should go to a 6 team.  Isn't it a 12 team league?  Trinity didn't make it last year and they might not make it this year and I think anyone who follows that league will tell you Trinity is a good side.  The NESCAC is interesting in that they play 3 conf games a weekend, so you need your 3 in conf games, but then the tourney is so short.

6 team DE - at least you have to go 3-0 before the "get beat twice in a row" point.  Usually will determine who the better team is since it is your 3 vs their 3.  And since it is a longer tourney, there is the possibilty of bringing back your 1 on short rest.  This seems to me like the best option.  Doesn't eliminate teams from playoff contention too early, gives all reasonably good teams a chance (Often times the #5 seed will pull some upsets).
Also, teams in NE will be playing in a 6 or 7 team regional and this gives them some experience playing in that type of tourney.

Back to back best 2of3 - Again, only lets in the 4 best teams.  Personally, I think 2of3 (9inn each) is the best way to determine which team is the better of the 2.  I know some state HS and legion tournaments do this and I like it.  But back to back within a week is too much.  You would have to do it over 2 weekends.  6 games in 7 days at the end of the regular season and before the regionals would be foolish.  Too many innings and you would burn out your staff before the regionals.  Also, you would want to go 1, 2, 3 in a best 2of3 (at least 95% of the time) and playing 6 in 7 days would not allow that (most likely).  The finals would likely have the first game as 4 v 4 or vs 1 on 3 days rest.  Not optimal by any means.

The whole point of determining a conf champ should be to make it a fair shot for all those with a reasonable chance and also to not harm the team that wins too much for regional play.  IMO a 6 team DE accomplishes that in the best fashion.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: MSG77 on May 01, 2007, 03:37:20 PM
Just looked at it again and with double headers you could have

Semifinals
Monday - Games 1 and 2 (or alternately Sat)
Tuesday- Game 3 (or alternately Sun)

Finals
Saturday - Games 1 and 2 (or alternately Thur)
Sunday - Game 3 (or alternately Fri)

That would let you have 1, 2, and 3 all on 4 days rest.  It would mean you would likely have to have a pretty deep bullpen though with 3 games in 2 days.  Also, not sure if you could get everyone to have Mon and Tuesday off around finals.  Also, if you finished the reg season on the preceding Sat, it is only 1 day rest til the playoffs so you might not be able to use your pitchers in the semis and it leaves only Sun (the day before the playoffs) as a rain makeup day.  I'm just not sure you can play 2 best of 3s in a week between the end of the reg season and the regionals.  Weather in NE will not allow an already condensed reg season to have 2 weeks for a conf playoff.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: JustAFan on May 01, 2007, 10:50:45 PM
Tufts 3-2 loss yesterday to Eastern Connecticut on a suicide squeeze in the bottom of the ninth and Williams 9-7 win today over Western New England in a game in which Williams only showed up with 12 players suggests that reports of the NESCAC having a down year may be exagerated. I would not underestimate the NESCAC teams in the tournament this year--the top teams in the league this year are very competitive with their peers from the other conferences.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 02, 2007, 04:57:14 PM
I know I have been banned from starting any new polls by the Moderator buthe didn't say I that I was banned from talking about other polls. I noticed this poll on the front page of the D3 web site and wanted to solicit others thoughts about the lack of New England pitchers names. Where do guys like Gilblair stack-up with this crowd?

Current Poll
Who is the best Pitcher in D-III this year?
Devin Drag, Chapman
Jimmy Dougher, Cortland
Robert Flanagan, Rhodes
Jason Glushon, Emory
Adam Samson, Wooster
Joe Augustine, Kean
Matt Aronson, Illinois Wesleyan
Joe DiPietro, Pacific Lutheran

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 02, 2007, 06:32:07 PM
Wordsmith,

I'd say Gilblair belongs right up there with those guys. He's having yet another great season, and I think it's due more to a lack of exposure than anything else.

Here's how I'd rank those guys, though.

Devin Drag
Jason Glushon
Jimmy Dougher
Adam Samson
Robert Flanagan
Matt Aronson
Joe Augustine
Joe Dipietro

I'd put Gilblair right above Flanagan on that list.

---------------

Here's a much more interesting take, though. My list of the top 10 New England arms.

Shawn Gilblair, Eastern CT.
Chris McDonough, Wheaton
Eric Smolin, WNEC
Chandler Barnard, Trinity
Adam Telian, Tufts
Brad Mountain, Eastern Nazarene
Louie Bernadini, Wheaton
Nick Conway, UMass-Boston
Rick Stromgren, Keene State
Reid Jackson, Suffolk
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on May 02, 2007, 07:11:12 PM
Tim Kiely is the top pitcher in NE...lights out now that he is fully healthy.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: slick on May 02, 2007, 08:04:11 PM
I agree with Bostonian. Tim Kiely had TJ surgery done last June and should not be throwing yet. He is a tough, very though kid/young man. He throws hard, has a great breaking pitch(s) and most importantly is a winner, he fights hard. He was getting MLB looks before he hurt his arm, he is the real deal. Reminds me of a RHP Guidry. A classic tournament pitcher.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 02, 2007, 08:04:48 PM
Not so sure about that, Bostonian. Yes, the perfect game is impressive, but I'm certainly not sold on him being better than a freshman All-American (Gilblair), or even a kid who's pitched in the Cape Cod League (Conway). Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEBaseball on May 02, 2007, 08:53:35 PM
Anyone have names of legit dudes (Juniors and Seniors) getting scouted by the MLB for this region?  Like guys with the velocity, accuracy, and poise to do big things at a higher level.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 02, 2007, 09:40:08 PM
NEBaseball,

I'd imagine Gilblair, Conway, Kiely, and Smolin all have professional aspirations / ability. Gilblair's a lefthander who sits in the 85-87 mph range with his fastball, and he knows how to pitch. Conway has pitched in the Cape League, and he throws in the upper 80's with good command. I haven't seen Kiely but I've heard he has a live arm, and Smolin went from being a seldom-used pitcher at Western New England to throwing 92 consistently in front of a Mets scout last weekend.

McDonough from Wheaton and Telian from Tufts could also have pro aspirations, as they're lefties who have a good idea how to pitch.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon2134 on May 02, 2007, 09:48:14 PM
I agree with all the New England Pitchers there they are all really good pitchers with great arms and the fact that they get no love like the pitchers in the midwest and west get is awful If we put the top 10 arms in New England Vs. the top 10 arms in any other regions They would beat any one of them in my option.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on May 02, 2007, 09:50:40 PM
Will velocity in the high 80s ordinarily attract pro interest? That isn't much faster than batting practice speed for elite DI programs.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 02, 2007, 10:21:42 PM
Depends on everything else, Frank. Take for instance Tim Stronach from Worcester State last season. Drafted by the Mets in the 22nd round, he normally sat 86-88 with his fastball. Kevin Boggan, closer at BC, was taken in the 43rd round, and he barely touched 88.

A guy like Gilblair, for instance, should create serious draft interest, IMO. He's a lefty who has a proven track record (All-American as a freshman), and he throws a good moving fastball 85-87 consistently.

All one need to do is look at Jeremy Sowers. A former first round pick of the Cleveland Indians in 2004, he was one of the fastest moving arms in the entire draft, as he's already a proven starter at the big league level. What's the word on him? He's barely 6'1, and his fastball doesn't crack 88 on a good day. Why did he get a $2,000,000 signing bonus? Because he has pitchability. Who else has pitchability? IMO, a lot of D-III guys from the NE, as they have had to learn how to pitch instead of throwing 95 by guys (Greg Norton, "ace" at UMaine, throws 95 and he has a BAA of .340 this season in the America East Conference).

Honestly, velocity is the most overrated aspect in scouting. Movement, command, and pitchability are much more important, IMO.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEBaseball on May 02, 2007, 10:27:09 PM
TheGNAC,

Totally agree with you.  I've seen D-I dudes topping out at 86 and making hitters look silly.

Are there any other pitchers topping out over 90 mph in New England?  
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 02, 2007, 10:42:53 PM
In D-III or in NE entirely?

In D-III, I know Smolin at WNEC throws 90+, and his teammate, Pizzoferrato, had to be touching 90 in the GNAC championship game last weekend. Jagodinzki at EConn throws hard, and I'm pretty sure LaVorga has a power arm, as well. Barnes at Wheaton also has a very good fastball.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEBaseball on May 02, 2007, 10:54:08 PM
Do all of these guys have pitchability, like you mentioned earlier?  All seem to have good numbers, the first three mentioned are starters and Barnes/LaVorga finishing games out.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 02, 2007, 11:03:52 PM
Smolin, I'm not sold on. His arm is electric, and it works effortlessly. There was a Mets scout at his start in Nashua last weekend, but there's a reason he didn't pitch much until this, his senior year. Against JWU on Saturday, he pitched 8 innings and allowed just 1 run, while throwing 90+ into the 8th... that said, he struck out just one against JWU, which isn't a sign of pitchability. His counterpart, Pizzoferrato, was a Regional All-American last year, winning 10 games as a freshman, and this year, although his innings are down, he's still shown two plus pitches. He's pitching in the NECBL this summer in a make-or-break year.

The two guys at EConn have very good arms and pitchability, being that they both pitch in a great program for pitchers. Barnes was a stud at Bishop Feehan in high school, and he's been a very good arm to watch over the last 4 years.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEBaseball on May 02, 2007, 11:24:04 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 02, 2007, 11:03:52 PM
Smolin, I'm not sold on. His arm is electric, and it works effortlessly. There was a Mets scout at his start in Nashua last weekend, but there's a reason he didn't pitch much until this, his senior year.

Looking at NCAA statistics, the reason may be that he played in left field last year.  This year it looks like he focused on pitching, as left was secured.  He did beat Otterbein, the preseason #1, and hasn't lost since.  His start this weekend vs. JWU was his second against them this year.  He had 11 k's in the first matchup.  Either way, 8 inning 4-hit 1-k shutout is still pretty good.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 02, 2007, 11:32:22 PM
Oh most definitely, I agree. Smolin is without a doubt the best arm in the GNAC, and Burkett getting POTY over him is absurd. I've seen him throw 3 times this season, and every time out he's been exceptional. His arm really works, he's throwing 90 mph with little effort. Only concern I see is that his fastball may be a little straight, and he may need to throw more 2-seamers against better hitters to be more successful.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 03, 2007, 12:06:28 AM
Final from Tonight: USM 13 U-Maine 7...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: MSG77 on May 03, 2007, 12:44:55 AM
You guys beat me on Tim Kiely - definitely should be on the list.  Didn't realize he was hurt that badly.  He pitched in the NECBL in 05 as well.  Hard thrower with a really good hard slider.  The Tufts team that he was perfect against for 7 inn wasn't a bad team either.  His nos for the year -

4-0, 1.61, 1 Sv. 28.0 IP, 25K/6BB, .89 WHIP - Pretty good

Haven't seen that many games this year vs past years so I can't comment on too many kids.

In terms of straight velocity, I know Jason LaVorgna (ECSU) throws hard.  I had heard that in AZ early in the year he was clocked at 93.  In the past, he had somewhat of a flat fastball and sometimes had trouble getting offspeed stuff over.  Teams would just sit on the fastball and if he left it up it would get hit.  But he has good numbers this year and also pitched in the NECBL last summer.  Maybe he got some good advice there and is improved.  Here are his numbers for this year and for last summer

07 ECSU - 3-0, 1.05, 4 Sv. 25.2 IP, 33K/7BB, 1.09 WHIP
06 NECBL - 3-1, 1.75, 1 Sv. 25.2 IP, 32K/14BB, 1.17 WHIP

Those are really good numbers and his walks seem to be down this year.  Over a K/inn as well.

I would agree as well about "pitchability".  Its not just about throwing hard.  A great example is someone like Joe Serfass.  His fastball was about mid-80s but it had movement and he could really spot it.  Also had a great slider, not hard, maybe around 80, but with late break.  Watching him pitch he never overpowered people, but he didn't walk anyone, he got ahead in the count, and batters would just beat his sinker or slider into the ground.  At one point he pitched almost 50 straight scoreless innings.  Last year he was in high A and had an ERA under 2.  So its not all about arm strength.

IMO that is why Gilblair gets overlooked sometimes.  He is far from an impossing pressence on the mound (I don't think he is over 6') but he mixes pitches and throws strikes.  Has a decent fastball that he spots, a good breaking pitch, and a very good changeup (which last year when on was his best pitch).  As only a sophmore he has a way to go before thinking about getting drafted, but if he continues to pitch the way he has it is always a possibility.  Teams can always use lefties with 3 pitches.


Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on May 03, 2007, 01:08:36 AM
Of the 300+ pitchers in MLB at any given time how many are New England DIIIers with top velocity in the 80s? My uninformed and unsophisticated guess is zero.  My further guess is that at least 85% of major league pitchers have at least 90 top velocity, and the remainder are "freaks" with unusual qualities, whose backgrounds do not include New England DIII baseball, New England not being a hot bed of college baseball at any level. Any New England DIIIers with top velocity less than 90, who might sign pro contracts, will end up merely filling out rosters in short season Class A and most probably no better.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: MSG77 on May 03, 2007, 01:35:39 AM
Quote from: frank uible on May 03, 2007, 01:08:36 AM
Of the 300+ pitchers in MLB at any given time how many are New England DIIIers with top velocity in the 80s? My uninformed and unsophisticated guess is zero.  My further guess is that at least 85% of major league pitchers have at least 90 top velocity, and the remainder are "freaks" with unusual qualities, whose backgrounds do not include New England DIII baseball, New England not being a hot bed of college baseball at any level. Any New England DIIIers with top velocity less than 90, who might sign pro contracts, will end up merely filling out rosters in short season Class A and most probably no better.

I don't think I would argue with you.  The Northeast in general is not a hotbed for baseball in general.  I would argue that they may get farther than short season A, but not many players make the majors period without being freaks.  Its the best of the best in the world.  The fact that the south is much more conducive to playing baseball year round no doubts helps in development.  If your question is "Are there any surefire major leaguers in DIII in the Northeast this year?" My answer would be no. But seeing as you obviously are on these boards quite a bit, I would ask you - "How many surefire major leagers come out of DII every year?  Do you follow DIII baseball to look for potential major leagers?"  Because if you do, you must be dissapointed on a regular basis.  There aren't that many players out there in DIII with major league ability.  If they do have the ability, they probably lack major league consistency, which is really the key to baseball.  If you can consistently throw 3 pitches at different speeds for strikes, you sould be given the opportunity to do so until it is proven that you are "batting practice".  Keith Foulke threw a mid 80s fastball and a low 70s changeup for strikes.  Its not the velocity, its the command and change of speed.  Is he an exception, for sure, but they do exist.  You don't have to throw 90s to get people out, but it does help.

I'm just wondering what your point was, because maybe I am missing it.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 03, 2007, 01:42:06 AM
Frank, not sure I get what point you're trying to make, either.

So what, since the majority of guys in D-III Northeast aren't MLB prospects, should we not talk about them being professional prospects? I don't think anybody here is saying Shawn Gilblair or Tim Kiely are going to be MLBers. The question was, who in the Northeast are on team's draft radars... guess what, ask any scout or crosschecker in the Northeast, and they'll know who all of those kids are.

Sure, they probably won't advance beyond low-level minor leagues, but who cares?

And as the saying goes, "velocity gets you signed, pitchability gets you to the Major Leagues." Jamie Moyer wouldn't get a speeding ticket with his fastball, and the guy's a potential Hall of Famer.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on May 03, 2007, 02:07:28 AM
My objective was to learn more about college baseball - about which I don't know a great deal but have certain impressions.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: MSG77 on May 03, 2007, 02:26:09 AM
Quote from: frank uible on May 03, 2007, 02:07:28 AM
My objective was to learn more about college baseball - about which I don't know a great deal but have certain impressions.

Fair enough.  Couldn't really get the "tone" of your posts from just reading.  Seeing as you have a ton of posts, it came off as trolling from another region.  If your previous posts have been about basketball and football then that would explain it.

The simple answer is "No".  I would not say there are any definite major leagers in DIII in NE this year.  I would also say there are rarely ever any definite major leagers in DI in NE this year or any year.  The same would be true for DII schools all over the country.  Most major leagers are either signed as free agents (from Latin America or the Far East), drafted out of high school, or played DI baseball in conferences that have many scholarships for baseball.  There are always exceptions, but the majority would likely be from one of  those 3 backrounds.  The northeast is not known for producing major leagers out of its college ranks.

But in terms of DII baseball, NE, NY and NJ have produed a large number of DII National Champions. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on May 03, 2007, 03:18:02 AM
What DII colleges are the baseball powerhouses at that level?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: JOUL on May 03, 2007, 09:21:06 AM
Frank, clearly not a fan of New England baseball

On another note, who has the pitching to win the NESCAC tourny?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Col. Partridge on May 03, 2007, 09:55:48 AM
Quote from: MSG77 on May 03, 2007, 02:26:09 AM

But in terms of DII baseball, NE, NY and NJ have produed a large number of DII National Champions. 

I'm not sure if you meant DIII, I don't see any schools from those states on the list of past DII champions:

http://www.ncaasports.com/baseball/mens/history/divii
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 03, 2007, 10:05:51 AM
Quote from: Capt. Partridge on May 03, 2007, 09:55:48 AM
Quote from: MSG77 on May 03, 2007, 02:26:09 AM

But in terms of DII baseball, NE, NY and NJ have produed a large number of DII National Champions. 

I'm not sure if you meant DIII, I don't see any schools from those states on the list of past DII champions:

http://www.ncaasports.com/baseball/mens/history/divii


I see, New Haven as runner-up twice, Ithaca once and Mansfield PA once.

Thanks for the link!  +1
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on May 03, 2007, 11:44:10 AM
Franklin Pierce has a very good DII program, playing in the World Series the past couple years. Seven players from last years teams played pro ball last summer.  That is excellent for a DI school.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: MSG77 on May 03, 2007, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: Capt. Partridge on May 03, 2007, 09:55:48 AM
Quote from: MSG77 on May 03, 2007, 02:26:09 AM

But in terms of DII baseball, NE, NY and NJ have produed a large number of DII National Champions. 

I'm not sure if you meant DIII, I don't see any schools from those states on the list of past DII champions:

http://www.ncaasports.com/baseball/mens/history/divii


Oops!  Yeah, I meant DIII.  Should have just used 3 rather than III.  I actually did it III(  ;D ) times in that post.  Nowhere in there did I mean to refer to D2.

Check the time - I guess thats what I get for being on obscure message boards at 2 AM  ::)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on May 03, 2007, 02:54:52 PM
Thanks for the info, guys and, if any, dolls. Actually I meant DII. JOUL, I enjoy baseball at all levels but am not a fanatic in a conventional sense. In recent years I have seen about 5-15 New England DIII games per year (this year 4 so far with prospects of seeing about 4-12 more mostly depending on my attendance at regional NCAA playoffs).
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on May 03, 2007, 03:06:04 PM
"Having been signed to an NFL contract" might be more accurate than "to play in the NFL" at this juncture.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 03, 2007, 03:16:45 PM
Teams that sign a kid who doesn't throw in the 90s may also see something that makes them think he can improve his velocity with better coaching, weight training, mechanics, etc.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: slick on May 03, 2007, 05:17:31 PM
Besides Jonah Bayliss from Trinty, now a reliever with the Pirates, who is in MLB that came from a D3 NE college?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 03, 2007, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: slick on May 03, 2007, 05:17:31 PM
Besides Jonah Bayliss from Trinty, now a reliever with the Pirates, who is in MLB that came from a D3 NE college?


Chris Denforia(sp) out of wheaton...He is out for the year with an injury but he  played with the Reds last year...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: slick on May 03, 2007, 07:27:47 PM
your right, plus he was recently traded to Oakland I believe. He's a good story for D3 ballplayers.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEBaseball on May 03, 2007, 08:55:16 PM
He was indeed traded to Oakland, for 2 minor league prospects.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: StraightGas on May 04, 2007, 10:33:14 PM
Anyone have any news on Wheaton's win over USM?  11-1 doesn't make USM sound as good as advertised.  Was it a staff day for USM and they pitched everyone?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 05, 2007, 12:22:18 AM
Quote from: StraightGas on May 04, 2007, 10:33:14 PM
Anyone have any news on Wheaton's win over USM?  11-1 doesn't make USM sound as good as advertised.  Was it a staff day for USM and they pitched everyone?


USM threw their #2 but he was injuried and taken out after 3...USM's lack of pitching depth agan cuaght up with them...USM also showed very little patience at the plate, hacking at the first pitch all day long...Once they got the pitcher in the stretch, they had some success but they lacked plate patience all day long...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2007, 12:33:20 AM
Looks like USM emptied the bench and gave up four unearned runs in the last four innings. Not sure if they're related -- USM has no play by play.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 05, 2007, 02:27:59 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2007, 12:33:20 AM
Looks like USM emptied the bench and gave up four unearned runs in the last four innings. Not sure if they're related -- USM has no play by play.


Yes, but they have live webcast of all their home games...I was at the game today(I run the scorebaord for USM) and while they may have emptied the bench, I think the 11-1 score is pretty accurate with the way the 2 teams played today...Like I said before, USM was very impatient at the plate and if the had taken some pitchers maybe would have had a scoring threat before the game was 6-0...The guy throwing for Wheaton Lou Bernadeni(sp) was very good but wasn't the same pitcher when he had to pitch from the stretch...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 05, 2007, 06:35:43 AM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 05, 2007, 02:27:59 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2007, 12:33:20 AM
Looks like USM emptied the bench and gave up four unearned runs in the last four innings. Not sure if they're related -- USM has no play by play.


Yes, but they have live webcast of all their home games...I was at the game today(I run the scorebaord for USM) and while they may have emptied the bench, I think the 11-1 score is pretty accurate with the way the 2 teams played today...Like I said before, USM was very impatient at the plate and if the had taken some pitchers maybe would have had a scoring threat before the game was 6-0...The guy throwing for Wheaton Lou Bernadeni(sp) was very good but wasn't the same pitcher when he had to pitch from the stretch...

Not to mention that USM has committed 11 errors in the past 3 games; all losses, all since they beat UMaine.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2007, 08:37:32 AM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 05, 2007, 02:27:59 AM

Yes, but they have live webcast of all their home games

Sorry -- I don't have the time to sit through an entire game. It's much easier to scan through the play by play if it's listed on the box score like most places.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 05, 2007, 05:46:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2007, 08:37:32 AM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 05, 2007, 02:27:59 AM

Yes, but they have live webcast of all their home games

Sorry -- I don't have the time to sit through an entire game. It's much easier to scan through the play by play if it's listed on the box score like most places.


Well I kind of figured that, I was more or less throwing that out here for anyone who was bored and wated to listen to some games or, a fan of another Little East team who couldn't make the games....
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: JOUL on May 05, 2007, 08:39:44 PM
after Eastern's sweep today, Wheaton and Eastern Connecticut have to be ranked 1 and 2 (no particular order)...Does Keane drop far? and any projections for the rest of New England rankings?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Spartan on May 07, 2007, 09:16:50 PM
Great article in today's (May 7) edition of the Christian Science Monitor on the back page about Husson College Coach John Winkin.  An inspiring story, required reading for all DIII kids as far as I am concerned.

OS
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Spartan on May 07, 2007, 09:20:36 PM
Here is the link for the article I referenced above:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0507/p20s01-alsp.html?page=3

Happy reading
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on May 09, 2007, 01:48:45 PM
Anyone know where you can get the play by play of the LEC tourney?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 09, 2007, 02:25:52 PM
A link to the Keene State v UMess game. I have yet to find a link to the Tourney or other games.


http://www.teamline.cc/sportpage?teamcode=2737&eventcode=5
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3bballinboston on May 10, 2007, 08:02:44 AM
newbury college on espn.com page 2

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/index

outstanding story!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 10, 2007, 10:04:34 AM
Don't see it on there. Better to link to the story itself -- I'm sure the Page 2 front page changes frequently.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3bballinboston on May 10, 2007, 10:39:19 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=darcy/070509
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Catch08 on May 10, 2007, 08:30:05 PM
nice seeing ESPN giving alittle D3 love but seriously 57-1 wow How can you do that to a team ??? I think they need to bring in a mercy rule or do something to Bridgewater for doing that to Newbury
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3bballinboston on May 11, 2007, 10:59:47 AM
http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070510/SPORTS/705100389/1007/SPORTS
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: RedDevils36 on May 11, 2007, 12:59:53 PM
They seem to have left St. Joes out of the mix on that, at least for baseball...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on May 11, 2007, 08:02:21 PM
St Joe's is going to GNAC next year to give all their sports a conference to call home
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3bballinboston on May 12, 2007, 09:43:59 AM
yes st. joes of maine is going in the GNAC.. they werent mentioned in that article because they are only in the NAC for baseball
Title: Summer Collegiate League Signings
Post by: TheGNAC on May 12, 2007, 05:29:07 PM
I was browsing some of the summer collegiate league websites, and came across a few D-3 players from New England.

New England Collegiate Baseball League
Jason La Vorgna, RHP, Eastern Connecticut - Danbury Westerners
Jimmy Jagodzinski, RHP, Eastern Connecticut - Danbury Westerners
Zack Thomas, SS, Eastern Connecticut - Holyoke Giants
Shawn Gilblair, LHP, Eastern Connecticut - Holyoke Giants
Craig Thomas, C, Eastern Nazarene - Holyoke Giants
Jason Pizzoferrato, RHP, Western New England - Manchester Silkworms
Chris McDonough, LHP, Wheaton - Lowell All-Americans
Drew Bignall, RHP, Trinity - Lowell All-Americans
Michael Tingley, LHP, Eastern Connecticut - Lowell All-Americans
Conor M Fahey, RHP, WPI - Lowell All-Americans
Scott Guillereault, SS, Wheaton - Sanford Mainers
Chris Burleson, RHP Southern Maine - Sanford Mainers
Chris Anderson, LHP, Western New England - Torrington Twisters

New York Collegiate Baseball League
Dan Benz, LHP, Williams - Brockport Riverbats
Greg Dimarco, RHP/OF, Suffolk - Brockport Riverbats
Reid Jackson, LHP, Suffolk - Bennington Bombers
Phil Mabey, RHP, Keene State - Bennington Bombers
Chris O'Connors, OF, Rhode Island College
Bill Galvin, C, Curry - Little Falls Miners
Josh Simmons, RHP, Wheaton - Saratoga Phillies

As for the Cape Cod League, per usual there are no D-III players under contract yet (elitism). I have heard however that Bernardini from Wheaton will be playing there, and I'm sure some other players will get temporary contracts after the open tryout on June 2nd.

Feel free to add to this list, as there are plenty other collegiate leagues around the country where I'm sure players will be playing.
Title: Re: Summer Collegiate League Signings
Post by: slick on May 12, 2007, 08:25:18 PM
Drew Bignall, Trinity ?? There is no such plyer, unless he is from Trinity University in Texas.
Title: Re: Summer Collegiate League Signings
Post by: TheGNAC on May 12, 2007, 08:59:43 PM
You're right. I was looking over the rosters, and they didn't specify if it was TX or CT. My mistake.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 14, 2007, 10:36:47 AM
Very good news.  D3cast will cover entire New England Regional.  Live video!

http://www.d3cast.com/index.php

http://www.d3cast.com/schedule.php

I watched the games last year, it is great.  Video quality is good (not amazing), commentators are pretty good, and they have a score bar showing the inning and score at all times.  it is very nice.  Now we just need to get them to broadcast in HD we will be all set.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 14, 2007, 02:22:43 PM
Quote from: don mattingly on May 14, 2007, 10:36:47 AM
Very good news.  D3cast will cover entire New England Regional.  Live video!

http://www.d3cast.com/index.php

http://www.d3cast.com/schedule.php

I watched the games last year, it is great.  Video quality is good (not amazing), commentators are pretty good, and they have a score bar showing the inning and score at all times.  it is very nice.  Now we just need to get them to broadcast in HD we will be all set.

Sweet, thanks for the info....
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: JOUL on May 14, 2007, 10:48:06 PM
Anyone have predictions for wednesday games?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2007, 02:23:31 AM
my picks

Keene
W. New England
ECSU
Wheaton
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 15, 2007, 09:14:35 AM
hockeyfan you are crazy, you can't possibly think those teams will win.

here are my picks

Keene
WNEC
ECSU
Wheaton

wait a minute, maybe hockeyfan isn't that crazy.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 15, 2007, 10:47:30 AM
Paul, your package is now linked on the front page. Great stuff. Thanks for putting it together.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: RedDevils36 on May 15, 2007, 07:39:08 PM
St. Joes defeats ECSU.  Sleeper.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 15, 2007, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: RedDevils36 on May 15, 2007, 07:39:08 PM
St. Joes defeats ECSU.  Sleeper.

Dear Red Devil,

Well, wake me up when that happens.

         Sincerely,
                  Woody Allen
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: RedDevils36 on May 15, 2007, 08:17:46 PM
Call you around 6:30 pm tomorrow...

In all honesty, of all the games tomorrow, this is one upset that could happen.  While I agree St. Joes does not play the most challenging schedule, there are some big time players on the team.  Don't underestimate them. 

It may be a David and Goliath game, but this time David has a lot more than tock pellets in his pocket. 

Prediction... SJC 6 ECSU 5... Luke Enman goes yard.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 15, 2007, 09:43:56 PM
Quote from: RedDevils36 on May 15, 2007, 08:17:46 PM
Call you around 6:30 pm tomorrow...

In all honesty, of all the games tomorrow, this is one upset that could happen.  While I agree St. Joes does not play the most challenging schedule, there are some big time players on the team.  Don't underestimate them. 

It may be a David and Goliath game, but this time David has a lot more than tock pellets in his pocket. 

Prediction... SJC 6 ECSU 5... Luke Enman goes yard.

Unless Charlie Furbush returns visa vi Roger Clemens, Evil Empire prevails 8-1.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 16, 2007, 06:52:56 PM
D3 Webcast is OUTSTANDING this year. Top quality all the way around.

I love it even more that the commentators call the Evil Empire EasternConn :D :D :D

Seriously great work on the cast.

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 16, 2007, 08:36:28 PM
i also love the d3cast but as a connecticut native the "Eastern Conn" thing was driving me nuts.  oh he just said it again.

There are 5 state schools in Connecticut.

They are
Full Name --- Shortened Name
University of Connecticut -- UConn
Central Connecticut State University -- Central
Southern Connecticut State University -- Southern
Western Connecticut State University -- WestConn
Eastern Connecticut State University -- Eastern

to say anything else just shows you aint from the nutmeg state.

but i do love d3cast, it is great.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 16, 2007, 08:39:31 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 15, 2007, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: RedDevils36 on May 15, 2007, 07:39:08 PM
St. Joes defeats ECSU.  Sleeper.

Dear Red Devil,

Well, wake me up when that happens.

         Sincerely,
                  Woody Allen

Yea, he just said EasternCollege State 10  St. Joe's 2

By the way Red Devil:
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Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: RedDevils36 on May 16, 2007, 11:24:19 PM
Admitting defeat with grace.  Good call wordsmith.  What most people don't know is that Tupper was throwing with a near torn UCL elbow injury.  He battled, but definitely did not have his stuff.  I've seen him throw for 5 years. 

Congrats to ECSU.  Hopefully meet you in 2 days.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2007, 11:51:19 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 16, 2007, 08:36:28 PM
to say anything else just shows you aint from the nutmeg state.

The national audience isn't from Connecticut either. And "Eastern" is a Division III school in Pennsylvania, so it would be irresponsible for a national broadcaster to use that term.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 17, 2007, 09:21:38 AM
A tip of the hat to Curry.

While the record shows they went 2 and out, and we all know there are no moral victories at this point of the season, they played hard and stood toe to toe and duked it out with the best of them for 16 innings; a break here or there and they could have still been playing today.

Word
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 17, 2007, 09:51:32 AM
i agree, i was impressed with the way Curry played yesterday.   To play that many innings against that high level competition is impressive.  Two extra inning losses to Keene State (11-3 in LEC) and Wheaton (#6 in the nation) is nothing to hang your head about.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bill Gorman on May 17, 2007, 10:48:22 AM
Agreed totally on Curry.  They played the equivalent of nearly three games yesterday.  Despite going "two and BBQ" they continued to battle to the end.

As an aside, I was the Media Coordinator the first two years the regional was in Harwich.  D3Cast (then JumboCast) did the 2002 regional (audio only)--the first time it had been done.  Watching that last night, the improvements that have been made at Whitehouse Field press-wise (trust me on this one), have certainly added to what already was a very nice facility.  It is a great location to hold a regional tournament.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 17, 2007, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 16, 2007, 06:52:56 PM
D3 Webcast is OUTSTANDING this year. Top quality all the way around.

I love it even more that the commentators call the Evil Empire EasternConn :D :D :D

Seriously great work on the cast.



I'll say it again: the work on the Webcasts are OUTSTANDING. Everyone associated should be very proud of the effort and more importantly the result.

On another matter. Before we go to much further down the pike>>> the D3 Web Site is GREAT. I have followed D3 college baseball for many years; I've coached D3 ball players before, during, and after their college careers, and had a son play D3 baseball. I did not think it could get much better, but this web site has really made my enjoyment all the more. Thank you folks who put this together and manage it. I for one really appreciate it.

Is there a method of making a financial contribution to this site?

Word

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 17, 2007, 11:41:47 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 17, 2007, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 16, 2007, 06:52:56 PM
D3 Webcast is OUTSTANDING this year. Top quality all the way around.

I love it even more that the commentators call the Evil Empire EasternConn :D :D :D

Seriously great work on the cast.



I'll say it again: the work on the Webcasts are OUTSTANDING. Everyone associated should be very proud of the effort and more importantly the result.

On another matter. Before we go to much further down the pike>>> the D3 Web Site is GREAT. I have followed D3 college baseball for many years; I've coached D3 ball players before, during, and after their college careers, and had a son play D3 baseball. I did not think it could get much better, but this web site has really made my enjoyment all the more. Thank you folks who put this together and manage it. I for one really appreciate it.

Is there a method of making a financial contribution to this site?

Word

Jumping in on the conversation...

Yeah, buy the football preview in the fall, Kickoff 2007,

and, better yet, get your company to buy ads on the web sites.

Those are the first two that I can think of!   ;)

Seriously, contact Jim Dixon for D3baseball.com or Pat Coleman for the D3sports.com family of web sites.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 17, 2007, 07:34:08 PM
Keene State 6 Wheaton 3,

Webcast dude says this is an upset. Ahhh, no it isn't. KSC played Wheaton even at Sidell, and KSCer will tell you except for Ford the closer breaking down (typical of a Ford) KSC would have won. KSC also played the Evil Empire even for 18 innings.

So, Round III of the Evil Empire and the Federation. High Noon Friday.

PS Go Owls
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 17, 2007, 07:41:56 PM
come on word, KSC over Wheaton is an upset, it isn't 1980 U.S. Hockey vs USSR but it is an upset.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 17, 2007, 08:20:21 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 17, 2007, 07:41:56 PM
come on word, KSC over Wheaton is an upset, it isn't 1980 U.S. Hockey vs USSR but it is an upset.

Sorry, I don't agree. :-\ I understand why you think that way though,and I hope all the other teams continue to think that way. One team I bet isn't thinking that way tonight and that is ECornSt.

Here is the line for the game earlier this spring. 10 inning duel at Sidell.

Score by Innings                      R  H  E
---------------------------------------------
Keene State College. 002 000 100 0 -  3  9  2
Wheaton College..... 100 000 002 1 -  4  7  2
---------------------------------------------

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on May 17, 2007, 08:51:57 PM
tough day for Curry, you have to be impressed with the way they hung tough!  9 errors by Wheaton in 2 games(ok almost 3 by innings-25 innings) they're lucky they're not headed home
Title: Rain. Bad.
Post by: D3Cast on May 18, 2007, 07:51:26 AM
Friday's games in the New England regional have been pushed back to Saturday due to rain. The rest of the schedule now -- tentatively -- looks like this:

Saturday, noon: Game 9
Saturday, 3:30pm: Game 10
Saturday, 7 p.m.: Game 11
Sunday, noon: Game 12

-steve
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 18, 2007, 01:48:13 PM
Big days yesterday for the NESCAC and Little East. 

NESCAC
Williams beats St. Joe's and WNEC to stay alive
Trinity Upsets #3 team in the nation in what seems to be an epic battle

LEC
Eastern and Keene both win to move to the winner's bracket finals.


any predictions on how the rest of this plays out?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 18, 2007, 05:39:48 PM
I would like for D3cast to put the games in the archives so I could  watch them...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 18, 2007, 05:41:18 PM
Quote from: Bill Gorman on May 17, 2007, 10:48:22 AM
Agreed totally on Curry.  They played the equivalent of nearly three games yesterday.  Despite going "two and BBQ" they continued to battle to the end.

As an aside, I was the Media Coordinator the first two years the regional was in Harwich.  D3Cast (then JumboCast) did the 2002 regional (audio only)--the first time it had been done.  Watching that last night, the improvements that have been made at Whitehouse Field press-wise (trust me on this one), have certainly added to what already was a very nice facility.  It is a great location to hold a regional tournament.


Better than Hadlock field in Portland Maine???  As I player I hated playing there(Harwich)...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 18, 2007, 05:50:53 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 18, 2007, 05:39:48 PM
I would like for D3cast to put the games in the archives so I could  watch them...

The NCAA doesn't permit archiving of postseason games.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on May 18, 2007, 07:00:05 PM
Another wonderful NCAA rule at work.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 18, 2007, 07:57:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 18, 2007, 05:50:53 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 18, 2007, 05:39:48 PM
I would like for D3cast to put the games in the archives so I could  watch them...

The NCAA doesn't permit archiving of postseason games.

Is there a reason given by the NCAA for this rule? Are they concerned someone could market some of the images?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 18, 2007, 08:08:55 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 18, 2007, 05:50:53 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 18, 2007, 05:39:48 PM
I would like for D3cast to put the games in the archives so I could  watch them...

The NCAA doesn't permit archiving of postseason games.


They have the games from last year's regionals up though???? Do you have to wait for the seaosn to end????
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: D3Cast on May 19, 2007, 12:37:12 AM
Some quick thoughts and responses:

Hi to Bill Gorman -- it really doesn't seem like five years and one major press box expansion ago that I was waiting for the phone guy to show up at Whitehouse Field so that JumboCast could put the first phone line in its press box, to audiocast Tufts' games in the '02 regional... now the issues in the press box are WHICH wireless access point to connect to, and where we can put the TV monitor for the press box webcast feed.  ;D

Re: archiving -- as independent videocasts of NCAA Championships events have grown, the NCAA has had to develop and formalize some guidelines about rights granting, and beginning this year, they have started to explicitly specify that internet video rights to the Championships do not include rebroadcast or archival rights. (I use the word "independent" above to differentiate an entity like D3Cast from CSTV (and CSTV.com), the official broadcast partners of the NCAA.)

So technically -- and a bit of a loophole here -- the 2006 regionals are up because the NCAA never said they couldn't be. We are currently working with the NCAA -- not fast enough, I totally understand -- to try and obtain archival rights (at least for a short period of time) for these webcasts, which we feel have showcased some great Division III Championship games in a professional and pretty watchable way.

Re: rain -- boo.

-steve
Title: All-New England Teams Announced
Post by: wordsmith on May 19, 2007, 06:50:23 AM
Enjoy ;D

2007 NEIBA All-New England Division Three Teams

FIRST TEAM
C      Craig Turner         Sophomore     Eastern Nazarene
1B     Tristan Hobbes       Sophomore     Eastern Connecticut
2B     Alex Hurley          Senior        Johnson & Wales
3B     Phil Puleo           Senior        Castleton State
SS     Luke Enman           Junior        St. Joseph's (Me.)
SS     Melvin Castillo      Freshman      Eastern Connecticut
OF     Chris Scarola        Senior        Curry
OF     Randy Re             Senior        Eastern Connecticut
OF     Ryan Bourque         Senior        Southern Maine
DH     Nate Nelson          Junior        Worcester State
UT     Shawn Gilblair       Sophomore     Eastern Connecticut
P      Eric Smolin          Senior        Western New England
P      Chris McDonough      Junior        Wheaton
P      Ryan Fote            Senior        Williams
P      Jason LaVorgna       Junior        Eastern Connecticut

SECOND TEAM
C      Chris Kenney         Junior        Williams
1B     Nick Martinho        Junior        Suffolk
2B     James Chevalier      Sophomore     Keene State
3B     Josh Mackey          Freshman      Southern Maine
SS     Josh Cardoso         Sophomore     Rhode Island College
OF     Steve Tahmoush       Junior        Babson
OF     Justin Collett       Sophomore     Salve Regina
OF     Chris Gusha          Junior        Worcester State
OF     Mike Naylor          Senior        Rhode Island College
DH     Neal Allar           Junior        Amherst
UT     Brian Casey          Senior        Tufts
P      Louie Bernardini     Junior        Wheaton
P      Pat Foley            Senior        Southern Maine
P      Chandler Barnard     Junior        Trinity
P      Brad Mountain        Senior        Eastern Nazarene

THIRD TEAM
C      Matt Cooney          Senior        Eastern Connecticut
C      Tim Henault          Senior        Rhode Island College
1B     Bryan McDavitt       Senior        Tufts
1B     Kent Graham          Freshman      Trinity
2B     Kevin Casey          Sophomore     Tufts
2B     Jake Yagjian         Junior        Wheaton
3B     Kevin Simpson        Sophomore     Roger Williams
SS     Travis Bass          Freshman      Castleton State
SS     Ryan Kravontka       Junior        Western New England
OF     Mike Damiani         Junior        Albertus Magnus
OF     Steve Smith          Junior        Bridgewater State
OF     Matt Stafford        Junior        Trinity
OF     Greg DiMarco         Junior        Suffolk
DH     Davin Sirpenski      Senior        Salve Regina
UT     Max Arsenault        Senior        Southern Maine
P      Sam Whelan           Junior        Babson
P      James Lydon          Sophomore     Roger Williams
P      Sam Tupper           Senior        St. Joseph's (Me.)
P      Chris Judd           Junior        Curry

PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Shawn Gilblair, Eastern Connecticut

PITCHER OF THE YEAR
Eric Smolin, Western New England

COACH OF THE YEAR
Eric Podbelski, Wheaton
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bill Gorman on May 19, 2007, 11:02:43 AM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 18, 2007, 05:41:18 PM
Quote from: Bill Gorman on May 17, 2007, 10:48:22 AM
Agreed totally on Curry.  They played the equivalent of nearly three games yesterday.  Despite going "two and BBQ" they continued to battle to the end.

As an aside, I was the Media Coordinator the first two years the regional was in Harwich.  D3Cast (then JumboCast) did the 2002 regional (audio only)--the first time it had been done.  Watching that last night, the improvements that have been made at Whitehouse Field press-wise (trust me on this one), have certainly added to what already was a very nice facility.  It is a great location to hold a regional tournament.


Better than Hadlock field in Portland Maine???  As I player I hated playing there(Harwich)...

Of course playing in a minor-league park is going to be better than playing at a high school/Cape Cod League field.  The amenities and resources are clearly much better.  The first year ('01) the regionals were there (and I'm assuming you were on that USM team?) I could go on about behind the scenes horror stories (having nothing to do with the games, or anything that would affect the student-athletes) because the facility wasn't fully equipped to handle what we were putting on.  Many changes were made from that standpoint when they were back there in '02.  My involvement ended after that year, as my boss' term as the regional chair had ended (and he was the one who had the ECAC get me involved), but what I have seen through the video, a lot of things have changed to accommodate the tournament.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bill Gorman on May 19, 2007, 11:09:52 AM
Quote from: D3Cast on May 19, 2007, 12:37:12 AMHi to Bill Gorman -- it really doesn't seem like five years and one major press box expansion ago that I was waiting for the phone guy to show up at Whitehouse Field so that JumboCast could put the first phone line in its press box, to audiocast Tufts' games in the '02 regional... now the issues in the press box are WHICH wireless access point to connect to, and where we can put the TV monitor for the press box webcast feed.  ;D

Steve, I remember that day well.  I recall my blood pressure rising each minute we were getting closer to "go time" and Verizon had yet to show up  >:(.  High-speed Internet?  No way.  The days of dial-up on the same line that the fax machine was on and only one phone line for radio (not to mention the overloading of every electrical circuit in '01 before a portable generator came onto the scene in '02) are CERTAINLY long gone and the press box/facility manager's office looks like you can get more than three people in there comfortably now.  While I am no longer involved, I am happy to see/hear about these changes.  I was always in favor of having it there, as it was a neutral site, and I'm glad the people who needed to stepped up and took a lot of my recommendations seriously.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 19, 2007, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: Bill Gorman on May 19, 2007, 11:02:43 AM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 18, 2007, 05:41:18 PM
Quote from: Bill Gorman on May 17, 2007, 10:48:22 AM
Agreed totally on Curry.  They played the equivalent of nearly three games yesterday.  Despite going "two and BBQ" they continued to battle to the end.

As an aside, I was the Media Coordinator the first two years the regional was in Harwich.  D3Cast (then JumboCast) did the 2002 regional (audio only)--the first time it had been done.  Watching that last night, the improvements that have been made at Whitehouse Field press-wise (trust me on this one), have certainly added to what already was a very nice facility.  It is a great location to hold a regional tournament.


Better than Hadlock field in Portland Maine???  As I player I hated playing there(Harwich)...

Of course playing in a minor-league park is going to be better than playing at a high school/Cape Cod League field.  The amenities and resources are clearly much better.  The first year ('01) the regionals were there (and I'm assuming you were on that USM team?) I could go on about behind the scenes horror stories (having nothing to do with the games, or anything that would affect the student-athletes) because the facility wasn't fully equipped to handle what we were putting on.  Many changes were made from that standpoint when they were back there in '02.  My involvement ended after that year, as my boss' term as the regional chair had ended (and he was the one who had the ECAC get me involved), but what I have seen through the video, a lot of things have changed to accommodate the tournament.


Yes, I was involved with the USM teams that hosted the regionals there...I know of some of the problems there, ie a rain out and having to play the championship round at the USM field in Gorham against Bridgewater...I agree that it should be played on a neutral site but as a player, I have played on both and I have a personal gruge on the field in Harwich, it was 11 years ago that i played there so I am sure it is much improved so maybe it just sour grapes cause I can't see the regional's now without driving down there...I thought I was going to see them this year, but the NCAA with it's awesome wisdom won't let you watch achived games on D3 cast...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bill Gorman on May 19, 2007, 05:28:15 PM
Sorry...by "there" I meant Harwich in 2001, not Hadlock/USM.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 19, 2007, 06:11:24 PM
I would just like to post a note on what a wonderful job D3Cast  has done with the NCAA NE Regional @ Harwich.

Just a real professional job with the webcast!!

Feel fortunate to be able to watch all the games.  Hope the other regionals will have same opportunity next year

Keep up the excellent work.
Title: Re: Summer Collegiate League Signings
Post by: John McGraw on May 20, 2007, 01:42:32 AM
Re: Bernardini

There was a report that Bernardini was supposedly going to pitch for the Hyannis Mets or Falmouth Commodores this summer, I forget which. Last I saw, he was not listed on either roster. He might be used as a temp player.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 20, 2007, 07:24:11 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 17, 2007, 08:20:21 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 17, 2007, 07:41:56 PM
come on word, KSC over Wheaton is an upset, it isn't 1980 U.S. Hockey vs USSR but it is an upset.

Sorry, I don't agree. :-\ I understand why you think that way though,and I hope all the other teams continue to think that way. One team I bet isn't thinking that way tonight and that is ECornSt.

Here is the line for the game earlier this spring. 10 inning duel at Sidell.

Score by Innings                      R  H  E
---------------------------------------------
Keene State College. 002 000 100 0 -  3  9  2
Wheaton College..... 100 000 002 1 -  4  7  2
---------------------------------------------



HARWICH, MA- The top-seeded Wheaton College baseball team saw its memorable season come to a close Saturday night at the NCAA Division III New England Regional Tournament, falling to fifth seed Keene State College, 4-1 for the second time in three days at Whitehouse Field. ;D


Another upset? I think not.

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 20, 2007, 07:52:51 AM
The Owls fell an inning short last week but with Shawn Gilblair, the hero for Eastern Connecticut in the Little East championship, ailing will this be the Keene State's time?

What's up with Gilblair ??? This quote came from the front page of the D3 Site.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 20, 2007, 09:40:00 AM
I had the same question.  He played yesterday, no comments about being hurt?!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 20, 2007, 09:53:52 AM
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 20, 2007, 09:40:00 AM
I had the same question.  He played yesterday, no comments about being hurt?!

Gilblair left the game on Friday with I think a non-pitching hand injury.  My reports say he is not 100% but that was a day or more ago.

A less that 100% Gilblair is still a pretty good ball player though.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on May 20, 2007, 10:06:43 AM
His thumb on his glove hand has been sore for three weeks.  He injured his pitching has thumb by getting jammed this week and he has a little tweak in his back.  Nothing to serious.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 20, 2007, 06:00:10 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on May 20, 2007, 10:06:43 AM
His thumb on his glove hand has been sore for three weeks.  He injured his pitching has thumb by getting jammed this week and he has a little tweak in his back.  Nothing to serious.

I suspect it is difficult to not have an nagging injury every now and then for all athletes.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on May 20, 2007, 08:51:48 PM
Absolutely, dont go on the field if you hurt your team.  Tons of guys get banged up in the course of the year.  Congrats to the team for a great job.
Title: Re: Summer Collegiate League Signings
Post by: Jcon2134 on May 21, 2007, 09:50:07 AM
Nick Conway from Umass-Boston is not yet listed on the roster But he will again be playing in the NECBL for the Lowell All Americans this year. After last year starting the summer playing down the Cape for the Brewster Whitecaps and then being offered a Contract to finish the summer with the Sanford Mainers and did that but this year he will be starting the season in the NECBL for the Lowell All Americans.
Title: Re: Summer Collegiate League Signings
Post by: Jcon2134 on May 22, 2007, 10:25:47 AM
The all americans roster was just updated and i was looking at it again and it loks as though Mike Tingely is no longer on it and thats is there final roster to start the season now it changes durning season up to a certian point but I am curious why he is no longer on the roster.
Title: Re: Summer Collegiate League Signings
Post by: kscer on May 26, 2007, 04:59:18 PM
I just heard that Chevalier of Keene signed with Lowell in the NECBL. It will be interesting to see how they use a d3 position player, or only use him for spotty relief.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on July 23, 2007, 06:52:16 PM
Any know anything about the NEIBA game at Fenway?

Anyone have any interesting summer updates regarding D3 players? Stats?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on August 02, 2007, 02:42:17 PM
soxfan,

the article on the front page should answer some of your questions about updates for d3 guys in summer leagues (well league).
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on August 03, 2007, 05:56:18 PM
haha yeah i guess so now.

it amazes me how well d3 guys can match up against those elite players in those leagues.  Take Gilblair for example.  His stats are nasty.  Charlie Furbush lit up the Cape two summers ago and now is lighting up the Tigers minor league teams.

This kind of success will only garner more recognition for players in this region.

Quite frankly, not many high school kids in New England will get a look from bigger schools.  There are a lot of great d3 programs in New England and they are from great schools that give these kids good careers.  However, If scouts were to watch some of the d3 baseball conference tournaments and ncaa regional they would see a lot of potential and exciting baseball!


keep swingin em

soxfan
Title: Re: Summer Collegiate League Signings
Post by: santeezy06 on September 25, 2007, 01:30:38 AM
I recently saw Josh Cardoso of RIC playing for the Orleans Cardinals this summer!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on January 17, 2008, 05:01:31 PM
I notice that there were only two players from NE teams chosen for all three teams of the D3 Baseball preseason all star team. Although I can't cite any specifics off the top of my head, this seems a little light given that there are 5 teams rated in the top 30. Maybe I'm all wet on this and Gilblair and the kid from St Joes are the only all america caliber players. Any comments?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on January 17, 2008, 06:37:41 PM
I don't think it's a slight for NE players.  If you check the players selected I think you would be hard pressed to argue any shouldn't be there.  I think D3 did their homework and selected players that merit being selected.  OK here I go toot, toot.... Gilblair was 1st team AA pitcher his freshman year and 1st team AA utility his sophomore year.  He was selected 2nd team but if you look at the players selected it makes sense, even to me.  Yacko is awesome and the pitchers selected are pretty much lights out.  So again I don't think it's a New England thing at all.

Now with that said, I don't know how many teams have ever won a National Championship without having an AA on the team.  It seems that every team that makes it to Appleton has at least one AA.  So they are pretty much saying only St. Joe and ECSU are projected to get there with the selections they have made.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on January 17, 2008, 07:02:15 PM
I sort of agree with you. There are probably 70 - 100 players who could easily slide into that list,  but what is it that keeps them off. I personally think Shawn Gilblair is a first team player because he does everything. Having seen a lot of him over the last two years, just when you think you have him beat, he beats you. He just doesn't look like an AA, he just does it. But enough of that. What keeps the 40 or 50 other top players off that list.? Is it team history?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on January 17, 2008, 07:09:21 PM
Quote from: kscer on January 17, 2008, 07:02:15 PM
I sort of agree with you. There are probably 70 - 100 players who could easily slide into that list,  but what is it that keeps them off. I personally think Shawn Gilblair is a first team player because he does everything. Having seen a lot of him over the last two years, just when you think you have him beat, he beats you. He just doesn't look like an AA, he just does it. But enough of that. What keeps the 40 or 50 other top players off that list.? Is it team history?

Don't know about 70-100 players EASILY sliding in unless it's at second base.  It goes back to my earlier statement as to what teams you think will make it to Appleton and who is their AA player or players?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Spence on January 17, 2008, 07:56:22 PM
Quote from: kscer on January 17, 2008, 07:02:15 PM
I sort of agree with you. There are probably 70 - 100 players who could easily slide into that list,  but what is it that keeps them off. I personally think Shawn Gilblair is a first team player because he does everything. Having seen a lot of him over the last two years, just when you think you have him beat, he beats you. He just doesn't look like an AA, he just does it. But enough of that. What keeps the 40 or 50 other top players off that list.? Is it team history?

I agree. I thought both Yacko and Gilblair should have been first teamers, even if one of them had to be voted 2nd at UTL. I would take either of them over the people that were voted #1 at the infield positions they usually play.

Maybe the two best PLAYERS in Division III this year. Shame that one was 2nd team anything.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on January 17, 2008, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: kscer on January 17, 2008, 07:02:15 PM
I sort of agree with you. There are probably 70 - 100 players who could easily slide into that list,  but what is it that keeps them off.

You are not far off in thinking that there could 70-100 player who should be considered.  If you look at all the 1st, 2nd team regional All-Americans in 2007 who are back in school you get about 100-120 players of which about 30-40% are from the first team AA lists. 

I think that the drop off past the best 50-60 players starts to drop off pretty quick.  With 35 names on the preseason AA list, that leaves about 20 who were considered and did not quite make the list. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on January 17, 2008, 08:15:01 PM
Quote from: Spence on January 17, 2008, 07:56:22 PM
I would take either  (Yacko and Gilblair)of them over the people that were voted #1 at the infield positions they usually play.

I don't think many would disagree.  Yacko is particularly important since he plays both 3B and SS so well that it gives Chapman a lot of flexibility to who they play on the field.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on January 17, 2008, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on January 17, 2008, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: kscer on January 17, 2008, 07:02:15 PM
I sort of agree with you. There are probably 70 - 100 players who could easily slide into that list,  but what is it that keeps them off.

You are not far off in thinking that there could 70-100 player who should be considered.  If you look at all the 1st, 2nd team regional All-Americans in 2007 who are back in school you get about 100-120 players of which about 30-40% are from the first team AA lists. 

I think that the drop off past the best 50-60 players starts to drop off pretty quick.  With 35 names on the preseason AA list, that leaves about 20 who were considered and did not quite make the list. 

Sorry Kscer, I thought you meant 70-100 on top of those teams. 
Anyway I checked the Championship web site and the last seven years there was at least one AA on the championship team. 

07 Augustine   Senior   Kean Univ.
06 Mike Eisenberg   Senior   Marietta College
05 Greg Reinhard   Junior   University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
04 David Peterson   Junior   George Fox Univ.
04 Scott Hyde   Junior   George Fox Univ.
03 Ryan France   Senior   Chapman University
02 John Kubachka   Senior   Eastern Connecticut State (2nd team)
01 Jake Mauer   Senior   University of St. Thomas (2nd team)
00 Belson                   Senior   Montclair State University

Who from NE is not on the 08 teams now that will be there at the end of the year?  Who knows they may end up champs.  Maybe there is a NE slight.   :D
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on January 17, 2008, 10:12:33 PM
I checked all the teams from the last three years that made an apperance at Fox Cities to see if they had an AA on their team 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.  Only Marietta last year didn't have one. 

So that pretty much says you need an AA on your team to play AT Fox Cities.

07
Jason Glushon   Senior   Emory Univ
Jordan Zimmermann   Junior   Univ. of Wis.-Stevens Pt.
Jeff Livek                   Senior                   Carthage College
Randy Re                   Senior   E. Connecticut State
Devin Drag   Senior   Chapman Univ.
No AA                      Marietta College
Joseph Augustine   Senior   Kean Univ
Jimmy Dougher   Senior   State Univ. of N.Y.-Cortland

06
Mike Eisenberg   Senior   Marietta College
Scott Guillerault   Sophomore   Wheaton College
Buddy Klovstad   Senior   Chapman Univ.
Rob Bowness   Junior   Montclair State Univ.
Shawn Gilblair   Freshman   E. Connecticut State Univ.
Chuck Brehm   Senior   Univ. of Wis.-Stevens Point
Aaron Thor   Senior   Aurora Univ.
Blake Rice   Junior   North Carolina Wesleyan College

05
Greg Reinhard   Junior   University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
Andy Mead   Senior   State University of New York-Cortland
Luke Ulman   Senior   The College of Wooster
Matt Scherbring   Senior   Wartburg College
Buddy Klovstad   Junior   Chapman University
Mike Rucci                   Senior   Rowan University
John Schoenholtz   Junior   Hampden-Sydney College
Jeff Natale   Senior   Trinity College

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Spence on January 18, 2008, 02:52:02 AM
Quote from: DGilblair on January 17, 2008, 10:12:33 PM
I checked all the teams from the last three years that made an apperance at Fox Cities to see if they had an AA on their team 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.  Only Marietta last year didn't have one. 

So that pretty much says you need an AA on your team to play AT Fox Cities.

07
Jason Glushon   Senior   Emory Univ
Jordan Zimmermann   Junior   Univ. of Wis.-Stevens Pt.
Jeff Livek                   Senior                   Carthage College
Randy Re                   Senior   E. Connecticut State
Devin Drag   Senior   Chapman Univ.
No AA                      Marietta College
Joseph Augustine   Senior   Kean Univ
Jimmy Dougher   Senior   State Univ. of N.Y.-Cortland

06
Mike Eisenberg   Senior   Marietta College
Scott Guillerault   Sophomore   Wheaton College
Buddy Klovstad   Senior   Chapman Univ.
Rob Bowness   Junior   Montclair State Univ.
Shawn Gilblair   Freshman   E. Connecticut State Univ.
Chuck Brehm   Senior   Univ. of Wis.-Stevens Point
Aaron Thor   Senior   Aurora Univ.
Blake Rice   Junior   North Carolina Wesleyan College

05
Greg Reinhard   Junior   University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
Andy Mead   Senior   State University of New York-Cortland
Luke Ulman   Senior   The College of Wooster
Matt Scherbring   Senior   Wartburg College
Buddy Klovstad   Junior   Chapman University
Mike Rucci                   Senior   Rowan University
John Schoenholtz   Junior   Hampden-Sydney College
Jeff Natale   Senior   Trinity College



Or being in Fox Cities makes you more likely to be an all-american. :)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on January 18, 2008, 10:21:43 AM
Tim Kiely should be a preseason AA. Especially after what he did agaisnt Cortland in the regionals last year.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on January 18, 2008, 10:30:34 AM
Quote from: DGilblair on January 17, 2008, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on January 17, 2008, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: kscer on January 17, 2008, 07:02:15 PM


Who from NE is not on the 08 teams now that will be there at the end of the year?  Who knows they may end up champs.  Maybe there is a NE slight.   :D
Now that's an interesting thought. Who are  the best in the region by position. If their teams are in contention nationally at the end of the year then they should be on that list.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on January 18, 2008, 11:06:52 AM
I think there will be a correlation between the number of all americans and appearing in the finals but I think that correlation would be much stronger when looking at the all american list at the end of the year than it would be when looking at the pre season all american list.

The pre season list is based on what you did last year and what people expect you to do this year.
The post season list is based on what people actually did this year.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 18, 2008, 02:03:25 PM
spence i agree with you, being in fox cities puts more national attention on a player.  I feel that a borderline AA gets the nod if his team goes to the world series.  It goes back to does the star player in MLB with the best numbers get the MVP who is on a horrible team or does the guy with slightly lesser numbers whose team goes to the playoffs get it.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on January 18, 2008, 07:31:34 PM
Quote from: Bostonian on January 18, 2008, 10:21:43 AM
Tim Kiely should be a preseason AA. Especially after what he did agaisnt Cortland in the regionals last year.

Excellent pick. He was hurt there for a while wasn't he?  He be a lot better  this year. Now with that do you think they will play at Fox Cities? 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on January 18, 2008, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: kscer on January 18, 2008, 10:30:34 AM
Quote from: DGilblair on January 17, 2008, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on January 17, 2008, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: kscer on January 17, 2008, 07:02:15 PM


Who from NE is not on the 08 teams now that will be there at the end of the year?  Who knows they may end up champs.  Maybe there is a NE slight.   :D
Now that's an interesting thought. Who are  the best in the region by position. If their teams are in contention nationally at the end of the year then they should be on that list.
That will make them more likely to be on the list for sure I think.  As good as some of these players are I definitely think that they are surrounded by quality in order for them to even have a chance to do what they do.
What team(s) from NE are going to Appleton in May?  If so who do you think their All America player(s) will be from that team.   
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on January 18, 2008, 07:52:19 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on January 18, 2008, 11:06:52 AM
I think there will be a correlation between the number of all americans and appearing in the finals but I think that correlation would be much stronger when looking at the all american list at the end of the year than it would be when looking at the pre season all american list.

The pre season list is based on what you did last year and what people expect you to do this year.
The post season list is based on what people actually did this year.
I agree Paul, much easier to pick the AA players at the end of the year.
Not sure I agree with the preseason list is based on what you did last year though.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on January 18, 2008, 07:53:43 PM
Completely off the top of my head I would rank them like this

1.  ECSU
2.  Keene State
3.  Wheaton
4.  Middlebury
5.  Everyone else
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on January 18, 2008, 08:00:30 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on January 18, 2008, 07:53:43 PM
Completely off the top of my head I would rank them like this

1.  ECSU
2.  Keene State
3.  Wheaton
4.  Middlebury
5.  Everyone else

I think the best defensive team will prevail.  I think they will all be able to hit the ball good enough.  Coaching will definitely have something to do with it, but whoever kicks the ball around the least will probably end up on top.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on January 18, 2008, 09:18:24 PM
I think the best defensive team out of that mix has to be KSC, based on last year and who's coming back. If Castillo finds his hands all bets are off.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on January 19, 2008, 11:02:45 AM
Quote from: kscer on January 18, 2008, 09:18:24 PM
I think the best defensive team out of that mix has to be KSC, based on last year and who's coming back. If Castillo finds his hands all bets are off.

They do have an excellent fielding team.  Pitching is part of defense to me.  If KSC pitching staff has the kind of year many think they will you may be right.  The LEC is going to be tough this year.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on January 20, 2008, 10:30:52 AM
Trinity should definitely be a contender for the regional championship. They are very, very good. They basically lost nothing from last year and added a top pitching transfer from UVM.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on January 20, 2008, 04:55:36 PM
Who is the transfer from UVM?  Can you tell us some more?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on January 20, 2008, 10:07:20 PM
I don't know who it is. 2nd hand info. Interesting thing is that Chandler Barnard transfered to Lubbok Christian, but it is reported that he is coming back for the 2nd semester. Also, Jon Rappaport and Tim Kiely graduated last year, but both have a year of eligibility left and will return as post graduates.

Take those 3 guys away and Trinity is definitely not a regional contender. But with them and the pitcher from UVM, they should be very good.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 20, 2008, 10:24:45 PM
Quote from: Bostonian on January 20, 2008, 10:07:20 PM
I don't know who it is. 2nd hand info. Interesting thing is that Chandler Barnard transfered to Lubbock Christian, but it is reported that he is coming back for the 2nd semester. Also, Jon Rappaport and Tim Kiely graduated last year, but both have a year of eligibility left and will return as post graduates.

Take those 3 guys away and Trinity is definitely not a regional contender. But with them and the pitcher from UVM, they should be very good.
No Chandler Barnard (http://www.lcuchaps.com/roster.aspx?cat=mensbaseball) on the LCU roster.  Lubbock Christian is NAIA-1 (Sooner AC), and I think that he would be eligible this season
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on January 20, 2008, 11:05:06 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on January 20, 2008, 04:55:36 PM
Who is the transfer from UVM?  Can you tell us some more?

Trinity did not report any transfers in a preseason questionaire they submitted to d3baseball.com
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on January 21, 2008, 08:39:00 AM
Ralph,
Barnard left after his junior year but I've heard he has come back to Trinity.
Very odd story, and somewhat shocking that Trinity would admit him back. Don't think that would happen at too many NESCAC schools.

Jim,
When was the questionnaire submitted? Like I said, 2nd hand info, but pretty solid source. We'll see when they hit the field.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: DougiesGoinDeep on January 21, 2008, 11:44:18 AM
The transfer that Trinity got was former UVM pitcher Jeremiah Bayer. He pitched for North Adams this summer in the NECBL. Barnard is back as well.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on January 21, 2008, 12:15:47 PM
Trinity is loaded with pitching this year. Kiely, Rap, Barnard, Regan, McGrath, Anderson, and Bayer would probably all be rotation guys at every other NESCAC school.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on January 21, 2008, 01:46:23 PM
Quote from: Bostonian on January 21, 2008, 08:39:00 AM
Jim,
When was the questionnaire submitted? Like I said, 2nd hand info, but pretty solid source. We'll see when they hit the field.

Barnard is listed as a returning player, not a transfer.

Tim Bourdon (All-New England in 2006) will likely replace Ben Silvanic.   Trinity will be a force to contend with in 2008

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on January 21, 2008, 02:49:24 PM
Barnard left Trinity and transferred to Lubbock Christian, but he left LC and transferred back to Trinity. Not sure how he should be listed, but he's definitely back at TC. Bayer is the transfer student I was talking about.

Bourdon will have a tough time cracking into that lineup.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 22, 2008, 01:05:03 PM
Good to see New England get some national attention with d3 top 25.  New England this year will be a tough place to play with Eastern CT, Trinity, Wheaton, Keene State, among some of the others.  I know its early but who is the best preseason new-england team.  My own personal thoughts go something like this

1. Eastern CT
2. Keene State
3. Trinity
4. Wheaton

Those are just based off what i know about the teams.  The LEC is the best conferance in New England bar far just look at last years regional where two LEC teams battled at the end.  Trinity has a murders row of pitching and Wheaton is well Wheaton.  Should be a great year in New England.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: DougiesGoinDeep on January 22, 2008, 02:42:58 PM
Just looked at something pretty interesting...

KSC has 4 returning All-LEC players including 3/4 of their infield.
ECSU also has 4 including All-American Gilblair
USM only has 1
Wheaton has 3 All-NEWMAC players coming back
Trinity has 8, including every position player besides 3B and CF (LEC obviously a better league then the NESCAC, still interesting though)

Should be an exciting spring
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on January 22, 2008, 04:32:29 PM
Here are some more numbers to back up what Dougie just posted...

Team (Percent of Hits From Underclassman Last Year--Percent of Innings Pitched From Underclassman Last Year)
Keene State (85%--66%)
Eastern Connecticut (69%--72%)
Wheaton (74%--88%)
Trinity (90%--64%)


*I am assuming all underclassman are coming back.  I am pretty sure I took LaVargna off the list for ECSU
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on January 22, 2008, 07:21:19 PM
I wouldn't say the LEC is that much better than the NESCAC. Yes, ECSU and Keene St. are probably 1 and 2 in the NE this year, but Williams, Trinity, and Middlebury are all very strong. Trinity didn't even make the league playoffs and they almost won the NY regional last year.

I'd also watch out for Babson this year. They were strong last year and return a lot of their top players.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 23, 2008, 12:49:39 AM
 You are right Babson is always  a very good team that is capable of winning a lot of games.  Another team that has wild card implications is Southern Maine.  Traditionally Flaherty's warriors are very good but over the last two or three years have not enjoyed thier usual success.  they mash with the best of them but thier pitching has seemed to hurt them ever since fairchild went on to the minors with the Astros.  They have the tall lefty Henry, and the righty Burleson, who in my humble opinion is more of a CF than a staff ace.   I think thier question mark will be the pitching. 

As far as the NESCAC vs LEC debate they are both very good conferances but i will take Eastern CT, Southern Maine, and Keene over Trinity, Williams and Middlebury.  However the bottom of the NESCAC may be more competitive than say Western CT or Dartmouth who are both just terrible right now
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on January 23, 2008, 06:49:05 AM
Funny...I was going to say that the bottom of the NESCAC is awful.
Bates, Colby, and Hamilton are just as bad if not worse than the LEC bottom feeders.

I think the top of the LEC is obviously stronger, but the NESCAC does have alot of depth. Amherst, Bowdoin, Tufts, Middlebury, Trinity, and Williams have all been to the NCAAs in the last 5 years.

I'd like to see the NESCAC scrap the 2 divisions and have everybody play a doubleheader against eachother like they do in the LEC.

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 23, 2008, 11:43:26 AM
Boston im not that familiar with the NESCAC you play a DH with everyone in your division and one with the other division?  If they did play a DH with everyone that would make up 18 conferance games.  Minus the 40 you are allowed to have that leaves 22.  Now take the average 10 games out of everyones southern trip, and that leaves 12 out of conferance games for the NESCAC schools to play.  Maybe coaches are hestitant for that reason i dont know, i dont know that much about the NESCAC.  It would be nice to see a LEC /NESCAC challange where on one sunday or midweek day schools from both leagues play each other.  WOuld be some great matchups for that day!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on January 23, 2008, 11:57:32 AM
At this point, the NESCAC teams only play 12 league games. They play the other teams in their division 3 times. Friday 9 inning, Saturday 7 and 9 DH. Plus, they play a crossover doubleheader and sometimes more games with teams in the other division.

There are 6 weekends during the season.

If the NESCAC went to a DH with every team format and gave each team a travel partner, playing 2 DHs a weekend would be doable. NESCAC teams never play 40 regular season games because the league only allows 23 games after March break. Most NESCAC teams play 33-36 games. Doing it my way makes sense, but it will never happen because of the Holier Than Thou attitude of NESCAC administrators when it comes to sports. They'd claim it was too much travel and time away from studies...

Bowdoin plays So. Maine every year. Amherst plays Keene St. Trinity plays Western and Eastern and Tufts plays Eastern and UMassDartmouth, so there are plenty of good interleague games. The Tufts-Eastern game from last year was one of the best games in Div. III NE.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 23, 2008, 07:13:08 PM
thanks for the info Boston
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on January 26, 2008, 12:29:31 AM
hey just heard some second hand info. What happened @ Eastern?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: DougiesGoinDeep on February 04, 2008, 10:28:37 AM
Anyone have any info on summer league signings? Did Gilblair signed with a cape league team?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 05, 2008, 05:37:39 PM
Quote from: DougiesGoinDeep on February 04, 2008, 10:28:37 AM
Anyone have any info on summer league signings? Did Gilblair signed with a cape league team?

No
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: stevejohnson on March 04, 2008, 12:59:22 PM
Anyone have and news on Shawn Gilblair.  I heard a rumor from an Eastern source that he didn't play in their opening game against Kean because of a failed drug test.  I'm wondering if there is any truth to this rumor. 

If not, can anyone give some info on why he was held back.  He didn't pitch and didn't DH.  That seems like he must be hurt or suspended.  I can't think of any other reason to keep an All-American out of the line-up against the defending national champion.  I remember he had some injury issues at the end of last year, but the ECSU website says he is scheduled to pitch on Wednesday. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on March 04, 2008, 01:33:56 PM
I don't know any information about who did or did not play for eastern yesterday but to post in a public forum that you heard a "rumor" that a college kid failed a drug test is irresponsible (in my opinion) 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: stevejohnson on March 04, 2008, 02:21:07 PM
You're probably right about the scope of my previous post.  I was just trying to get to the bottom of his absence from the line-up.  If anyone has info on that, it would be appreciated. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on March 04, 2008, 03:53:31 PM
Anybody have any early seasons games they are interested in coming up?

With many teams getting into action this weekend there are some good battles coming up.  Any in particular people are looking forward to?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 04, 2008, 11:17:26 PM
Im looking forward to Keene and College of New Jersey coming up. A double header against a quality team like that will determine how signifigant losing two top pitchers in Stromgren and Young will be, and we will see how good Keenes offense will be.  Losing only two bats out of the lineup, a quality 4 hitter and a singles guy from the bottom of the line up, keene should put some offense up this year which will be differant from a team that tends to be more pitching/defense.  Love the fact that the season is getting underway, and to answer the Gailblair question check out the LEC posting there is like a million comments on his injury
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on March 09, 2008, 10:19:17 PM
Top New England Region Conference

It is hard to argue the point that one of the traditionally deepest conferences is the Little East

How would you rank the conferences this year in terms of strength.  I do not mean necessarily who has the top team to represent in the NCAA's- but rather, top to bottom who has the top conference?

I'd like to see what other people say before I throw my opinion out there.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 10, 2008, 10:01:30 AM
Soxfan i think that you are right that the best conferance top to bottom is the Little East in New England.  The next best conferance is the NESCAC.  And here is why i broke this down this way. 
-First the top three in the LEC of Southern Maine, Keene State, and Eastern Connecticut are teams with more talent and depth than the big three of Trinity, Williams, and Ahmerst.  Keene and Eastern last year where the last two teams in the NE regional, and essentially are bringing there whole teams back with the exception of one or two.  I think that Trinity is stacked dont get me wrong and i expect them to make a run deep into the Regionals but i think that the LEC has three stacked teams at the top, last year keene and eastern won over 30 games each where as Trinity was the only 30 game winner in the NESCAC.  Southern Maine had 27 wins and that was a disapointing season for them.

-The middle teams is where i might give the Nescac the edge over the little east.  Tufts and Bowdoin are no slouches, and they seemed to teams that are more constant that say a Rhode Island College and or a UMass Boston.  I mean Tufts finished first in the NESCAC last year regular season and thats no small feat and i would in my humble opinion put them over Bosont and Ric in the LEC. 

-The bottom of the Conferance has to go the LEC again.  I think that teams such as Plymouth, UMass Dartmouth, and Western Ct would pound the bottom of the Nescac as the bottom of the Nescac to put it lightly struggles year in and year out.  Hamiltion Colby and Bates won a combine 22 games last year, where as the bottom three of the LEC won 27 games. 

After the LEC and the Nescac i feel that the conferances top to bottom really drop off, i would put the LEC one and the NESCAC a close two, just my thoughts prove me wrong!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on March 10, 2008, 10:06:52 AM
I  have the same reasoning as KSCfan on the LEast and the NESCAC, but will throw the NEWMAC into the mix.

NEWMAC: New power Wheaton with consistent programs Babson, WPI, and Springfield.

The NEWMAC is on the rise, but having only six teams in conference hurts them.  What Wheaton has done is truly amazing.  The program has been around for 10 years and is already a national power. 

The rest of the field should be the GNAC and the CCC are a toss up for the 4/5 spots.  The MASCAC is pretty bad, but no conference is worse than the NAC.  That is middle school level baseball being played at the bottom of those conferences.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on March 10, 2008, 05:35:22 PM
I think it is hard to argue with your top two pics.

I would go with:

LEC
NESCAC
NEWMAC
GNAC
CCC
MASCAC
NAC
NEGNAC (when it comes around it will be the worst in the nation)


I agree with you pretty much throughout.  So it kind of makes the whole discussion an agreement.  But I based mine upon the bottoms being so bad.  The bad teams from some conferences are ridiculously bad.  Some should be clubs.  However, I am glad there are so many opportunities for kids to play college baseball.  It is a great thing!  Keep on playing!

By the same token, I'd be embarassed to be the bottom of the heap for some of the conferences at the bottom of that list. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on March 11, 2008, 09:46:30 PM
Anyone care to explain the reasoning behind the UAA tourney going on right now?  Is the conference tourney for an automatic bid?  Any 'Deis folks who care to weigh in I would love an explanation.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on March 11, 2008, 11:02:19 PM
I am guessing that they play their tournament now while the teams are on spring break and can get together in one central location.  The six teams listed on the UAA website with baseball teams are in Mass., New York, Illinois, Georgia, & Ohio. 

The six teams tells me there is no automatic bid.  You need at least 7.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on March 12, 2008, 08:54:05 PM
What does UAA stand for and is it just a southern trip showdown?  Much the same way of the Gene Cusick Classic, where it bears no significance who wins?

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Nuke LaLoosh on March 13, 2008, 12:00:56 AM
The UAA stands for the University Athletic Association.

The baseball league includes Emory, Brandeis, Case Western, Rochester, Washington University, and U Chicago.

Their tournament is a round-robin format, with each team playing 6 games in 5 days. I am unsure if the winner of the tournament gets an auto bid, but I would guess that UAA teams are all Pool B bids.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 13, 2008, 12:17:02 AM
Quote from: Nuke LaLoosh on March 13, 2008, 12:00:56 AM
The UAA stands for the University Athletic Association.

The baseball league includes Emory, Brandeis, Case Western, Rochester, Washington University, and U Chicago.

Their tournament is a round-robin format, with each team playing 6 games in 5 days. I am unsure if the winner of the tournament gets an auto bid, but I would guess that UAA teams are all Pool B bids.
The University of Chicago is an independent.  They have not been active in the UAA for years.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Nuke LaLoosh on March 13, 2008, 12:22:47 PM
Oops. You're right, this site had Chicago listed. Must have been an old one.

http://www.uaa.rochester.edu/Weekly_Sport_Updates/BB_Update.html
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ocho on March 17, 2008, 12:01:35 PM
Does anyone know if or where Bobby Cappaziello is playing ball this season. Bobby was a standout player for Hopedale High School (MA) and was on the Western New England College team last season but didn't play much. I don't see his name on Western New England's roster this year so I'm assuming he transferred. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on March 17, 2008, 07:55:42 PM
Brandeis played to a tie in the tournament.  What does that mean?  Must not mean any bid from that.....
Title: New England Coaches
Post by: wordsmith on March 18, 2008, 07:45:40 PM
I'd like to start a discussion about New England Coaches:

Who is your favorite coach?
Who is the most under rated coach in NE?
Who is the best coach in New England?
Who is the classiest coach?

To kick this off I'll offer my thoughts:

Favorite Coach -   Ed Flaherty - Southern Maine
Most Under rated - Matt LaBrache - WNEC and Will Sanborn St. Joe's
Best Coach - Bill Thurston Amherst
Classiest Coach - Ken Howe Keene State College

Word





Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 19, 2008, 02:37:37 PM
I can only comment on coach howe from KSC, cause he is the only one that i really know.  I think to do what he has done to that program over the last 4 years is amazing.  Keene was a program that was floundering at best in 2004 when it went 14-23 and finished 6th in the Little East.  2005 Keene turns the corner a little and goes with a 23-14 record. 2006 31-14, tied for first reg seaon with Southern Maine in the tourny and made it to the championship round of the  tourny only to be snubbed off the regionals that year.  then last year 2007 32-15 with an LEC finals and a NE regional final to add to his resume.  I think that Coach Howe and the whole KSC staff have really picked up thier game over the last couple of years and have built a contender every year.  It is no easy task to turn things around with the type of schedule that KSC plays.  I have seen Flaherty coach, and he too is a good coach.  I mean two national titles me must be doing something right.  Having never played for him i dont know that much about him though. Really any of the coaches that word listed are great coaches and great coaches get great players to come to thier schools and thats why the teams that word listed are very good programs
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 19, 2008, 07:04:24 PM
When Marty Testo joined the KSC staff in 2001 the entire recruiting dynamic changed. He is the single biggest reason for their emergence onto the National stage. His connections into the Hartford, CT area via the Fiore Family and their American Legion Tourney has added a whole new level of talent to the team. He is due a Head Coaching job soon. PS he was just named Head Coach of the Keene SwampRats. A very deserving choice. Howe has also developed a better relationship with the NH High School coaches. KSC is now known as Nashua West for good reason.

Ed Flaherty is a solid coach, probably a better coach than a recruiter; he gets the best Maine talent and has some reach into the North Shore above Boston. He ventured into NH but has not been able to maintain consistency.  The days of kids outside of Maine flocking to USM are waning. KSC, WNEC, Wheaton et al are evening venturing into Maine and taking many of the kids USM may have once got.


Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on March 19, 2008, 07:53:25 PM
I agree that Marty brought a lot to the program. He brought key players from the legion team he coached and the the Nashua kids followed, and the program was off and running. Howe took care of some lingering issues and in 2005 the dynamic changed. Also the Fiore connection- The East Hartford tourney that the Fiore family ran was and probably still is the best in New England. Last year nine NH kids started on the field. This year will probably be eight. Howe is a class act. Any parent would be happy to have him mentoring his kid through College. Every kid is important to him.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 19, 2008, 11:08:17 PM
KSC Roster tide is turning 20 of 34 kids not from NH. And of the 14 from NH,  6 are seniors. They all came in together  and that interesting enough was Marty's last year coaching Legion Ball in NH. Next year the team's roster could see NH at second or even third in numbers of players. Interesting.

NH -14
CT - 11
MA - 6
RI - 1
VT - 1
NJ - 1
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on March 20, 2008, 06:16:26 PM
Maybe those numbers are the result of the quality of players available, rather than a conscious choice. Chevalier, Darak and LaPlante are underclassmen and there are some fine freshmen in Doyon and LaCourse. I think the NH connection will continue as long as the quality of players are there. The HS classes of 2002, 2003 and 2004 in NH had some good baseball players several of whom stayed close to home.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: DougiesGoinDeep on March 21, 2008, 06:38:22 PM
The number 19 ranked Trinity Bantams beat the number 16th ranked St. Thomas Tommies 7-2 today to move to 10-0.

Trinity starting pitcher Tim Kiely was dominant and pitched 8 innings allowing 2 runs. Trinity looks to complete a perfect Florida trip tomorrow when they take on St. Michaels.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on March 21, 2008, 08:50:46 PM
Impressive start for Trinity. They have to be the consensus #1 in the region at this point.

Keene State also swept Gustaphus Adolphus today, moving to 9-2 on their spring trip. I'm pretty sure they have the #2 spot in New England on lock right now.

Suffolk is making a case to join the top teams in the region, sweeping Southern Maine today to move to 7-2 on their trip, with their only losses coming to #8 New Jersey and the 5th-ranked team in NAIA, Dakota State. Impressive victories over Montclair State, Western New England, and two over USM make a strong case for the Rams to be in the rankings.

Here's my top 8 breakdown, based mostly on teams' success thus far.

1. Trinity (10-0)
2. Keene State (9-2)
3. Suffolk (7-2)
4. Curry (7-1)
5. Eastern Connecticut (5-4)
6. Wheaton (6-4)
7. Bowdoin (8-3)
8. St. Joe's (ME) (6-3)

Anybody else have rankings they'd like to put out there?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 22, 2008, 08:20:20 AM
GNAC couldnt agree with you more. I think that right now trinity is clearly the number 1 team in ne with an almost perfect trip.  I will also take keene at 2 with a 9 and 2 trip so far.  I didnt have Curry as high though.  Here is my top 8......

1. Trinity
2. Keene State
3. Suffolk
4. Williams
5. Eastern Connecticut
6. Wheaton
7. Curry
8. Bowdoin
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on March 22, 2008, 11:34:13 AM
I would go top 5 as

1.  Keene State
------Playing tough teams and winning
2.  Wheaton
------Playing the toughest schedule I have seen in a long time and coming back 6-4
3.  Trinity
------Winning but really not challenging themselves with the schedule.  I put 6-4 vs Wheaton's slate as better than 10-0 vs Trinity's.  Maybe Trinity would have been 7-3 or 8-2 against the teams that Wheaton played but we will never know.  So we are left to guess and my guess is represented in this ranking
4.  Eastern Connecticut
------Maybe this is a reputation pick but in the end they will be there.
5.  Suffolk
------4-1 in 5 games against top notch competition on their trip.   7-2 overall
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on March 22, 2008, 01:04:55 PM
If Keene beats Williams, a nemesis in every sport it seems, and comes back 10-2 then they have to be #1. Keene coaches has to be concerned about the pitching giving up so many runs. Trinity seems to pick their schedule not to test the team but to garner wins. Eastern will be in the top five at the end. Wheaton is so disciplined and well coached they will continue to win. Southern Maine is a surprise losing their first three.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on March 23, 2008, 08:48:42 AM
I've ripped Trinity in the past for their schedule, but this year, they are playing some solid teams. St. Mary's, Babson, and Denison are solid wins, and the St. Thomas win is clearly impressive.

Trinity's resume may not be that great, but their talent is. They've got the pitching depth to win it all.

Solid trips for other NESCAC teams. Williams beat Keene St., Brockport St., and swept UMboston. Only loss is to Hopkins. Bowdoin went 8-3 although their schedule was not tough. Most suprisingly, Tufts is 6-4 with wins over ranked NC Wesleyan and Greensboro. Looks like their freshmen class is for real.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 23, 2008, 06:01:59 PM
Keene State has to be concerned about their pitching staff. They gave up a lot of runs in Ariz. Their bats won several games with their bats (2 vs CNJ & 1 vs Johns Hopkins); the offense scored 124 runs in 12 games.

Phil Mabey is considered a real key to the staff and he had a tough trip. In his 2 starts his line was:

Innings            Hits             E. Runs              BB          K's
----------          ------            ----------             ----         -----
  8.0                 13                  13                   5            2

If KSC wants to be a participant on the national stage they'll have to improve the staff performance. 

My top 8 in NE:
1. Trinity
2. Williams
2. Keene State
4. Eastern Connecticut
5. Suffolk
6. Wheaton
7. Curry
8. Bowdoin

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on March 24, 2008, 11:28:01 AM
Very early for a top 10, 8 or 5, so here goes.

Keene - beat some top teams
Williams - beat Keene
Trinity - soft schedule so far, need a sweep of Bowdoin to stay up here
Wheaton - three great outings by starting pitcher since back in New England
WNEC - I know what their record is and I know how good their starting pitching is
Eastern - Yes they have some pitching of their own, what about Defense
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on March 24, 2008, 01:10:42 PM
WNEC? Huh?

Anderson's good, and Pizzoferrato's injured. After those two, they have no arms.

They also got spanked by Suffolk in Arizona 14-2.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on March 25, 2008, 08:56:26 AM
I wouldn't be too worried about KSC's pitching yet.  After hitting inside for a month or two, the baseball looks gigantic.  Once all these teams get back up north and start pitching in cold weather the offensive explosions will slow some. 

That reason is exactly what makes Trinity so tough this year.  They have been pitching and hitting in FL.

GNAC, WNEC may not be Top 10 material as of now, but Pizzoferrato and Anderson can beat anyone.  Not a lot of depth, but never count out two studs at the front of a rotation.

Nice DH today in Arizona.  A struggling So Maine takes on a surging Williams.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 26, 2008, 11:19:14 PM
Good game for thursday, Keene at babson.  If anyone wants to listen to it Keene is broadcasting it over the internet.  Just audio no video, but the play by play guy for keene(adam Skebeck) does a very nice job.  Enjoyed him listening to the Arizona trip with him.  Its free to listen to, go to the keene state athletics pages and click on the blue teamline logo right under the rotating picture.  Then pick baseball out of the list and you are good.  Just throwing it out there for anyone that wants to check it out.  WHy dont more teams around the area do this kind of thing? i love it
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 31, 2008, 11:11:26 AM
Trinity stays perfect at 15-0 are they the number 1 team in the nation?????? and does anyone want to throw out another regional rankings after this week? 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: DougiesGoinDeep on March 31, 2008, 11:32:37 AM
KSC Fan,

No team in New England can even compare to the strength of Trinity's pitching staff. Kiely is without a doubt the best pitcher in New England, and Chandler Barnard, Mike Regan and Jeremiah Bayer all held a good hitting Bowdoin team to 2 runs in 3 games. Trinity should definitely be considered as a #1 team.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on March 31, 2008, 11:34:09 AM
I wouldn't say Kiely is the best pitcher in New England without a doubt. Personally I'd put Shawn Gilblair ahead of him pretty easily.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 31, 2008, 11:46:04 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on March 31, 2008, 11:11:26 AM
Trinity stays perfect at 15-0 are they the number 1 team in the nation?????? and does anyone want to throw out another regional rankings after this week? 

OK here are my NE Rankings:

1) Trinity
2) Wheaton
3) Keene State
4) Williams
5) Eastern Connecticut
6) Suffolk
7) So. Maine
8 -Salem State

In the weeds - WNEC, Roger Williams, Rhode Island College, Curry
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on March 31, 2008, 11:54:13 AM
Trin is the clear cut #1 right now, and with Gilblair banged up Kiely is the best pitcher in the region right now.  Williams beat KSC head-to-head already and has a similar record.  Should be #3 right now.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on March 31, 2008, 11:55:17 AM
Now that I think about it, there's a few other arms I might take over Kiely, also. Chris McDonough from Wheaton could be considered the top arm in the region, as could Chris Anderson WNEC. Sam Whelan from Babson pitched in the Cape last summer, he could be up there.

Point is, there's a lot of arms in this region, and it's pretty hard to say one of them is the best "without a doubt." It's not like there's a Jonah Bayliss or Ryan DiPietro in the region this year.

Anyway, on to my regional top 8.

1. Trinity (15-0)
2. Wheaton (14-4)
3. Keene State (12-4)
4. Williams (12-4)
5. Curry (10-1)
6. Suffolk (12-4)
7. Eastern CT (9-7)
8. Babson (10-6)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 31, 2008, 11:59:34 AM
But KSC's 2 wins over College of NJ - their only 2 losses, and a quality win over Johns Hopkins out-weigh, at least in my mind and my poll, the single loss to Williams.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on March 31, 2008, 02:06:25 PM
Lack of research on my part.  I did not realize that Keene had wins over TCNJ and Hopkins.  My regional top 8 would mirror the others mentioned.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 31, 2008, 02:28:38 PM
People claim that Trinity has played a soft schedule, but still 15 and 0 is 15 and 0 and worthy of the top spot in New England.  As for the rest of the teams i have them stacked up like this

1. Trinity 15 and 0 says it all
2. Keene State- Wins over Eastern(Gilblair pitched) 2 over NJ and a win over Hopkins, plus Babson played toughest schedule over anyone in New England to this point and still 12-4
3. Wheaton- 14-4 but i still think Keene has better quality wins, and we will see when wheaton and keene play head to head
4. Williams- Wins over Keene and a weekend sweep, these boys might be right there with trinity at the head of the Nescac
5. Eastern CT - Melvin and Gilblair reek of Ortiz and Manny, plus Esposito has seemed to regain his old form.  I know 9-7 but at the end of the year you know they will be there
6. Curry 10 and 1 is good but not impressed with this team.  Weak conference, no real "quality" wins, will see how good they are tomorrow at babson.
7. Suffolk 9-4 DH sweep of ST Joes over the weekend good for resume
8.  Tie between Babson and Southern Maine.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 01, 2008, 01:26:12 PM
Eye see the new National Poll is out. Keene State goes 3-1 last week with quality wins over the Evil Empire and their ace Gilblair, and Babson; with a loss to TEE.

In the Poll KSC dropped from 20 to 22--> Interesting.

Any thoughts from the rest of you?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on April 01, 2008, 01:58:25 PM
You have to look at the teams who moved in front of them and how they faired. Otterbein had a 7-0 week and Pinoma-Pitzer (21-4) moved above KSC. It may not be fair, but it's tough to move up unless someone above them self destructs.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 05, 2008, 07:38:55 PM
Wheaton rallies to beat USM.

At Norton, Mass.                                             R  H  E
Southern Maine  (11-5)  >:( :(    000  130  010    5  8  3
Wheaton  (17-4)             :D ;D   100  002  03X     6  7  0
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 06, 2008, 09:41:48 PM
keene amherst this week on tuesday should be a great game
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 14, 2008, 03:02:58 PM
Eye See we are now half way through April. Things are taking shape and the cream is starting to rise to the top.

Some keys questions yet to be answered.
1) Is Trinity really THAT GOOD??!!
2) Who is the Big Dog in the Little East? Are Keene State and RIC really the teams to beat this year?
3) Who is better in the NEWMAC? Babson or Wheaton?
4) WNEC and USM are on the prowl - how good are they?
5) Is ECONN in a rebuilding year or will they show-up at the end like sooooo many years in the past?
6) Endicott, Roger Williams, Suffolk, pretenders or contenders

My top 8 in the New England Region for Mid-April:
1. Trinity
2. Wheaton
3. Keene State
4. USM
5. Babson
6. RIC
7. Suffolk
8. WNEC
Honorable Mention: Endicott, Williams (Roger that is)


Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 14, 2008, 09:04:21 PM
Amherst needs to be in there...tied ECSU, beat KSC, and swept Williams...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 14, 2008, 09:19:51 PM
Word good new england ranking agree with them except i had amherst in there instead of suffolk but still very good analysis and questions
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 14, 2008, 09:48:36 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on April 14, 2008, 09:19:51 PM
Word good new england ranking agree with them except i had amherst in there instead of suffolk but still very good analysis and questions

Perhaps I overlooked Amherst; maybe next week.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 15, 2008, 10:40:54 AM
Golly Gosh, are the National Pollsters missing the Maniacs from Southern Maine? Not a single vote??? :o :o


Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on April 16, 2008, 06:16:10 PM
Are they snubbing or do they not consider the hard hitting, thin pitching, very questionable defense ,LEC , as much as many from the northeast do. They are not all homers!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 16, 2008, 06:41:36 PM
Quote from: 363dp on April 16, 2008, 06:16:10 PM
Are they snubbing or do they not consider the hard hitting, thin pitching, very questionable defense ,LEC , as much as many from the northeast do. They are not all homers!
It seems to me that the NE regional last year came down to 2 LEC teams. They may stumble at the start but usually finish strong. USM has bee playing good BB as has 21-7 RIC who is truly overlooked.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 16, 2008, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: 363dp on April 16, 2008, 06:16:10 PM
Are they snubbing or do they not consider the hard hitting, thin pitching, very questionable defense ,LEC , as much as many from the northeast do. They are not all homers!
It seems to me that the NE regional last year came down to 2 LEC teams. They may stumble at the start but usually finish strong. USM has bee playing good BB as has 21-7 RIC who is truly overlooked.
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This is the site where we in the Northeast and in New England in particular snipe and blast each other all season long, then turn around and root for the New England team in the World Series. Which by the way has been won several times by LEC Teams, like 7 in the past 17 years.

So, Dear 363dp dude, unless you are from New England take your smack elsewhere, and whilst you go check in with The College of New Jersey and Johns Hopkins about the LEC.

Word
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on April 16, 2008, 07:00:36 PM
LEC is the best division in the country and those are the fact so i agree with wordsmith take a walk pal
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 16, 2008, 07:27:35 PM
Quote from: Jcon8958 on April 16, 2008, 07:00:36 PM
LEC is the best division in the country and those are the fact so i agree with wordsmith take a walk pal

Yea !!! 363 dp,  How do you like them apples!  >:( Don't  you talk smack to my LEC homeys, cause by National Tournament time, you will for shure find one of our Teams in the big show.

I like that , you guys were like flies on you know what when some bone head started his smack.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on April 16, 2008, 10:17:17 PM
Boys, boys, boys....  I know of your great LEC teams. EConn last year in Appleton, 2 and BBG, year before think they beat NCW to go 1-2, though not the winners of the NE regional. All I was saying was the LEC is   loaded with teams that can hit, but they are not loaded with pitching or teams that play great defense. Sorry that bothers you so much. Am I that far off? And I do live in New England, so I might write again.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 16, 2008, 10:47:36 PM
363dp if you really do live in new england come start blogging with the big boys, we are like a family over on the lec board.  We will bash the crap out of each other but as soon as someone outside the blogging family starts in we will jump to the rescue for each other.  so if you are feeling frisky come on in to the lec page cause like my fellow bloggers said you will find an LEC team in appleton this year and that my friend is the facts jack
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 17, 2008, 12:55:39 PM
Quote from: 363dp on April 16, 2008, 10:17:17 PM
Boys, boys, boys....  I know of your great LEC teams. EConn last year in Appleton, 2 and BBG, year before think they beat NCW to go 1-2, though not the winners of the NE regional. All I was saying was the LEC is   loaded with teams that can hit, but they are not loaded with pitching or teams that play great defense. Sorry that bothers you so much. Am I that far off? And I do live in New England, so I might write again.

OK 363pd, I admit that defense is very important, ( I always complain about ECSU defense), next to good piching and hitting, especially if you want the D-III National Championship trophy.
But the likes of Ryan DiPietro, (Royals), Joey Serfass, (Mets), Tip Fairchild, and a few others I most likely missed, illustrate some reasonably good pitching talent in NE, especially since we cannot play baseball in this region 365 days a year like other Conference teams.  And as the wordsmithmyster previously stated, 7 D-III CWS Championships/17 yrs are not bad, with LEC teams in the CES many more, so there has been a pretty good balance of the 3 diciplines those years. In fact I would say the 1998 ECSU D-III CWS championship team, may have been one of the best D-III teams ever, and could have kicked a lot of D-I and D-II teams rear-ends.

I seem to remember only WIAC and maybe OAC or NJIAC have more D-III CWS Championships, UW Oshkosh, Marietta College, and College of NJ being a cases in point.

Please come join the fun at the LEC website
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 17, 2008, 07:36:13 PM
OK New England D-III fans: Where are the 5 Star Match-ups this weekend. What games are you excited about? Weather looks solid, let's play 2.

My 5 Star Games:

LEC
TEE vs. Quahogs (EConn vs RIC)
SwampRats vs Chowdas (KSC vs UMB)


NESCAC
3 men I admire the Most vs daBrains (Trinity vs Tufts)
Wheaton vs Brandeis (Dah!)

Wheaton vs So. Maniacs

How about your list?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 17, 2008, 09:02:47 PM
Word,
I like your choices. Eastern needs to win to maintain respectability, RIC has to win to prove they are for real, a split is useless to both. (other than standings, i mean in the ubermensch).
A win for USM over Wheaton is important because it will diminish KSC's win later over Wheaton and may impact the At-large bid.
Keene needs to sweep this weekend to verify they are a NATIONAL power, capable of dispatching lowly neighbors. Unfortunately good weather is forecast for Keene so the swamp should not be a factor.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on April 17, 2008, 10:02:31 PM
I know you guys like to talk about the past, all the WS titles, so could you tell me the last time USM beat  "the Wheaties" ? I think there has only been 2 close games in the past 5 years. Starting to think 2 NEWMAC teams (Babson and Wheaton) might be better than any 2 LEC teams.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 18, 2008, 08:35:31 AM
Quote from: 363dp on April 17, 2008, 10:02:31 PM
I know you guys like to talk about the past, all the WS titles, so could you tell me the last time USM beat  "the Wheaties" ? I think there has only been 2 close games in the past 5 years. Starting to think 2 NEWMAC teams (Babson and Wheaton) might be better than any 2 LEC teams.

OK let's talk about the Wheaties vs Keene State and vs TEE over the past 2-3 years. I believe that coupled with the USM record tells a more accurate story.  :o :o :D

And one other think about the Wheaties--> how did ol'ErictheRed let Bryan "Dup" get away?



Word
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Spartan on April 18, 2008, 09:02:32 AM
Word:

please explain your characterization of the Trinity/Tufts game as the Most vs daBrain.

I think I understand the first reference, but no the Chicago oriented cooment on Tufts.

Do you think the Jumbos are coached by Ditka?

Sincerely,
Not smart enough to understand you, but wishing I was in Boston this weekend.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 18, 2008, 09:54:33 AM
363dp come on, if you are going to post on this board you better do your research.  Your all mighty wheaties have gotten smoked by the top two LEC teams (Eastern, and Keene) over the last couple of years.  Last year Keene blew  a ninth inning save against them and turn around and not only beat the all mighty wheaton once, but twice to send them and thier grossly overrated buts back to the NEMWAC conferance.  And that was Keene's first trip to the regionals.  Wheaton was suppoused to have the big game experiance from the year before when they lost in the National Championship game.  PLease dont try and tell the NE board that they are better cause they have had some success over Southern Maine.  I understand that two years ago they beat southern maine to go the world series, but against keene and eastern not so much.  Wheaton does not play the schedule that LEC teams do.  All sat dh's in the LEC feel like they are being played on the Cape in the Regionals.  You dont get that in the Nobody Even Might Want to Actaully Care about this conferance (I tried word, not the best smith but a try)



As for the big games this weekend i think that word hit it on the head.  RIC vs Eastern, and Southern Maine vs Wheaton should both be great games.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 11:42:52 AM
Quote from: 363dp on April 17, 2008, 10:02:31 PM
I know you guys like to talk about the past, all the WS titles, so could you tell me the last time USM beat  "the Wheaties" ? I think there has only been 2 close games in the past 5 years. Starting to think 2 NEWMAC teams (Babson and Wheaton) might be better than any 2 LEC teams.

363dp, I presume you are not one of these guys who takes the " don't confuse me with the facts" attitude.

Well, here are the facts re ECSU vs Babbleson and the Wheaties

                      ECSU       Babbleson              ECSU           Wheaties
2005                  7               3                          5                     3
2006                15               6                          8                     0
2007                  2               4                          6                     7  ( 11 innings)
2008                16               4                          to be determined

Now what was your comment re NEWMAC ( is this Mickey D's new dogmeat sandwich??) vs LEC????????????
                 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 18, 2008, 02:05:42 PM
Quote from: Old Spartan on April 18, 2008, 09:02:32 AM
Word:

please explain your characterization of the Trinity/Tufts game as the Most vs daBrain.

I think I understand the first reference, but no the Chicago oriented cooment on Tufts.

Do you think the Jumbos are coached by Ditka?

Sincerely,
Not smart enough to understand you, but wishing I was in Boston this weekend.

I think you need an IQ of about 275 to get into Tufts. Thus daBrains
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on April 18, 2008, 09:54:33 AM
363dp come on, if you are going to post on this board you better do your research.  Your all mighty wheaties have gotten smoked by the top two LEC teams (Eastern, and Keene) over the last couple of years.  Last year Keene blew  a ninth inning save against them and turn around and not only beat the all mighty wheaton once, but twice to send them and thier grossly overrated buts back to the NEMWAC conferance.  And that was Keene's first trip to the regionals.  Wheaton was suppoused to have the big game experiance from the year before when they lost in the National Championship game.  PLease dont try and tell the NE board that they are better cause they have had some success over Southern Maine.  I understand that two years ago they beat southern maine to go the world series, but against keene and eastern not so much.  Wheaton does not play the schedule that LEC teams do.  All sat dh's in the LEC feel like they are being played on the Cape in the Regionals.  You dont get that in the Nobody Even Might Want to Actaully Care about this conferance (I tried word, not the best smith but a try)


As for the big games this weekend i think that word hit it on the head.  RIC vs Eastern, and Southern Maine vs Wheaton should both be great games.

KSCFan and Word,

Cannot argue with your assessment.
Got to believe Coach Holywater will have Jags and Espo going.  KSCfan , your right, Eastern Cantmakethecut State is going to have to sweep RIC to gain the repsect and momnetum to win the LEC Tourney
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: santeezy06 on April 18, 2008, 03:37:26 PM
I like your choices. Eastern needs to win to maintain respectability, RIC has to win to prove they are for real, a split is useless to both.

TEE will get some help this weekend with 3 of RIC'S key players being out to take a police exam in RI for the first game. It will show how tough this RIC squad really is. Idon't think a split will deminish anything RIC has done this year though. They still will be a tough team to contend with.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: santeezy06 on April 18, 2008, 03:37:26 PM
I like your choices. Eastern needs to win to maintain respectability, RIC has to win to prove they are for real, a split is useless to both.

TEE will get some help this weekend with 3 of RIC'S key players being out to take a police exam in RI for the first game. It will show how tough this RIC squad really is. Idon't think a split will deminish anything RIC has done this year though. They still will be a tough team to contend with.
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Santeezy06,

That is too bad, you hope that TEE would see the full strength RIC team. Hope they pass the exam!!! :)

Good luck to the Anchormen, they are looking strong this year, and although I will be rooting for ECSU, we all will be rooting for RIC, USM, KSC, ECSU to go to the D-III CWS and show the Chapmans, Woosters, Cortland St's or Salisbury's and U Texas Tyler's a thing or two.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 18, 2008, 04:52:52 PM
Suffolk vs. Johnson and Wales is a big matchup tomorrow. Suffolk needs a split with JWU to win the conference outright, and if they sweep, they'll be the first team to ever run the table in the GNAC. They're currently 12-0, Johnson and Wales is 11-1. This is a big matchu
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 18, 2008, 06:54:25 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on April 18, 2008, 04:52:52 PM
Suffolk vs. Johnson and Wales is a big matchup tomorrow. Suffolk needs a split with JWU to win the conference outright, and if they sweep, they'll be the first team to ever run the table in the GNAC. They're currently 12-0, Johnson and Wales is 11-1. This is a big matchu

Good one GNAC. By the way is it true Johnson and Wales use rolling pins instead of bats when they hit, or are not all the students in the Culinary Arts Program? ;D

Word
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on April 18, 2008, 09:05:41 PM
Can we just 363pd off this board because year in and year out wheaton is one of the most overrated tesams around yah they finish 2nd in the series a few years ago but if you put them in the LEC they will be lucky to get 4th they dont have the pitching depth to hang with the aces of the LEC.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on April 18, 2008, 09:28:23 PM
What a battle!  Out num(b)bered. Let's go.

Word, I know from reading your posts you know your stuff! Not only Dupes (NE Player of the year) but Pat O'Connor,Bryant and Mike Direda, Assumption, have moved on and are missed. But word Wheaton took 2 from TEE last year, first sweep ever.

Con man, not the pitching depth of the LEC teams.......please. Ask word, Wheatons pitching depth will match up with TEE and surpass all other LEC teams over the past few years.

KFAN "smoked by the top lec teams over the past few years" better check the records before you say to much.

Also KFAN, "Wheaton does not play the schedule"  There league has some soft spots as does the LEC, but Wheatons schedule is tough like TEE and Keene, much more differcult than the mess boston.

Alum, you missed the other game last year, a 2-1 LYON killing at mansfield, a great game with much fan participation.

Have a great weekend , hope to see you at the park.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 10:02:23 PM
Quote from: 363dp on April 18, 2008, 09:28:23 PM
What a battle!  Out num(b)bered. Let's go.

Word, I know from reading your posts you know your stuff! Not only Dupes (NE Player of the year) but Pat O'Connor,Bryant and Mike Direda, Assumption, have moved on and are missed. But word Wheaton took 2 from TEE last year, first sweep ever.

Con man, not the pitching depth of the LEC teams.......please. Ask word, Wheatons pitching depth will match up with TEE and surpass all other LEC teams over the past few years.

KFAN "smoked by the top lec teams over the past few years" better check the records before you say to much.

Also KFAN, "Wheaton does not play the schedule"  There league has some soft spots as does the LEC, but Wheatons schedule is tough like TEE and Keene, much more differcult than the mess boston.

Alum, you missed the other game last year, a 2-1 LYON killing at mansfield, a great game with much fan participation.

Have a great weekend , hope to see you at the park.


363dp

I stand corrected

One of those ECSU defensive lapses

Score by Innings                                R  H  E
-------------------------------------------
Wheaton College      011 000 000 -   2  5  1
Eastern Connecticut  001 000 000 -  1  7  3
-------------------------------------------


Wheaton College (MA)   IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
-----------------------------------------------
Chris McDonough.....  3.2  5  1  1  1  4 15 16
Jared Barnes........  2.0  2  0  0  2  1  8 10
Brian Hughes........  1.1  0  0  0  1  1  4  5
Keith Pescosolido...  1.0  0  0  0  0  1  3  3
Josh Simmons........  0.0  0  0  0  2  0  0  2
Pat Martin..........  1.0  0  0  0  0  0  2  3

Eastern Conn        IP    H  R ER BB SO AB BF
-----------------------------------------------
Joe Esposito........  6.0  3  2  0    4   5  21 28
Justin Davis........   3.0  2  0  0    0   1  12 12
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 18, 2008, 10:14:14 PM
363pd,

I admit Wheaton has come up with a very good program over the last 3 years.

now it's my turn to wash my mouth out with pine tar  ::)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 19, 2008, 07:00:28 PM
363dp when i smoked i didnt mean the scores of the game but rather wheaton got swept out of the Regionals and should of lost the regular season game to keene.  I think that if you put wheaton in the LEC they would easily be a top  team, but there is no way that the NEWMAC puts up the fight that the LEC team does.  By all means i think that Wheaton is clearly one of the top teams of New England, and i know for a fact that wheaton would pound ujoke boston into the ground, much like did Keene did to them today.  But Wheaton can still be summed up in 2 words OVER  RATED
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 20, 2008, 03:05:34 AM
Looking forward to wheaton and southern maine today, is it on webcast or the webradio at all cause i would like to watch it and or listen to the game
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on April 20, 2008, 05:51:06 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on April 20, 2008, 03:05:34 AM
Looking forward to wheaton and southern maine today, is it on webcast or the webradio at all cause i would like to watch it and or listen to the game


http://www.usm.maine.edu/~jkessler/athletics/

This should work, all home games are on the web via Radio...I must warn you though, the announcer is a homer but it gets the job done if you want to listen to the game...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: love baseball on April 20, 2008, 02:16:11 PM
In regards to the NEWMAC, how do you guys feel about Babson? NEWMAC regular reason champions, 25-8, 11-1 in conference. Seemed like they kind of got the shaft for an at-large bid last year. This year they seem to be making a strong push.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 20, 2008, 02:27:28 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on April 20, 2008, 05:51:06 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on April 20, 2008, 03:05:34 AM
Looking forward to wheaton and southern maine today, is it on webcast or the webradio at all cause i would like to watch it and or listen to the game


http://www.usm.maine.edu/~jkessler/athletics/

This should work, all home games are on the web via Radio...I must warn you though, the announcer is a homer but it gets the job done if you want to listen to the game...


Hockyfan,

Listening to Wheaton/USM game.

3-0 Wheaton at mid 6th inn.

Have to commend you, thanks for posting the USM stream for this afternoon's game.   The USM announcers is a homer, as he should, but orders of magnitude better that the ECSU announcers.  Exciting to listen  to this afternoons game.  What a difference to listen to someone who is competent and is passionate for his team  ;D
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dubbc on April 20, 2008, 02:29:29 PM
Hey guys been a big fan of the board for a while but never put in my input until now. Hope it's welcomed.
I find it hard to believe that someone could call wheaton overrated. (yes one word) After checking the numbers wheaton is 20-5 vs the little east since 2005.  Those numbers don't lie.  The little east is clearly a deeper conference than the NEWMAC but Wheaton can't be faulted for that because they win it every year.  In that same period of time Wheaton has a record of 109-35 while losing in a regional final, national final and regional semifinal.  Meanwhile Eastern whom i believe to be one of the best programs in the nation has a 104-55 record while making it to 2 world series.  Eastern and Wheaton have had numerous battles going back to the early 2000's when Eastern handed wheaton a heartbreaking lose in the regional finals.  
Keene State is an up and coming program and got on the map in a big way last year by knocking off wheaton twice down in Harwich,  but by no means are they in the class of Eastern or Wheaton yet but it seems like they are having another very strong year and should contend for another regional final but over the last 8 years wheaton and econn are the class of the northeast.
What wheaton has done this year to stay a premier program in the nation is pretty amazing after considering what they lost.  Podbelski had to replace 19 wins and almost 200 innings in his rotation and almost 700 at bats and 100 RBIs.  
Im looking forward to see how the rest of the season ends up with babson  hosting the conference tournament for the first time ever.  Babson is a very good team and could continue to give wheaton trouble.  In terms of the little east i have to give the edge to econn in the tournament.  They always seem to turn it on late in year and until someone beats them they should continue to control the tournament.
Hope everyone had a good weekend at the ball park and look forward to contributing to the board in the future.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 20, 2008, 03:02:27 PM
dubbc,

Nice job comparing and contrasting  the Wheaton program vs LEC.

I have to hand it to thier program, they have been doing a great job recruiting some of the best players in the ME/NH/MA/RI area.

Seems like starting around 2002 the program really gained straction.  What changed ?

Wheaton's record

Year   W  L  T   % 
1998 23 12 0 .657
1999 28 14 0 .667
2000 28 12 0 .700
2001 31 11 0 .738
2002 37   9 1 .798
2003 27 10 2 .720
2004 21 20 1 .512
2005 33 12 0 .733
2006 42 10 0 .808

Tot.  270 110 4 .708

NCAA College World Series: 2006 (2nd)
NCAA New England Regional Tournament Champions: 2006
NCAA Tournament: 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006
ECAC Tournament: 1998, 1999
NEWMAC Tournament Champions: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006
NEWMAC Regular Season Champions: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dubbc on April 20, 2008, 04:10:35 PM
I don't think any one thing has changed.  It's just the fact the program is getting older and older.  Podbelski started the program from scratch and he deserves all the credit.  I'm glad recruiting got brought up, the types of players econn ksc and the rest of the little east can recruit a lot of the time can't even be looked at by wheaton because of the academic requirements.  It is very impressive that wheaton is consistently in the running for regional titles because of the limitations on the types of student athletes that can be recruited.

on another note it seems like the wheaton usm game was exciting.  Wheaton scores one in the 9th to tie it and wins it in the 10th.  That makes 9 in a row over southern maine, yes 9.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on April 20, 2008, 04:26:05 PM
I listened to the game just a great game looks like that kid schmidt is going to be a good one there at USM. Just a great game tho
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on April 20, 2008, 04:56:35 PM
Quote from: dubbc on April 20, 2008, 04:10:35 PM
I don't think any one thing has changed.  It's just the fact the program is getting older and older.  Podbelski started the program from scratch and he deserves all the credit.  I'm glad recruiting got brought up, the types of players econn ksc and the rest of the little east can recruit a lot of the time can't even be looked at by wheaton because of the academic requirements.  It is very impressive that wheaton is consistently in the running for regional titles because of the limitations on the types of student athletes that can be recruited.

on another note it seems like the wheaton usm game was exciting.  Wheaton scores one in the 9th to tie it and wins it in the 10th.  That makes 9 in a row over southern maine, yes 9.


So that game could have gone either way, 9 in a row but USM has lost 6-5 and 5-4 to Wheaton: not like that are that much better than USM....
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on April 20, 2008, 04:58:40 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 20, 2008, 03:02:27 PM
dubbc,

.  What changed ?




Wheaton is a private school and can give better packages to incoming players, that's what changed...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on April 20, 2008, 05:02:18 PM
Quote from: Jcon8958 on April 20, 2008, 04:26:05 PM
I listened to the game just a great game looks like that kid schmidt is going to be a good one there at USM. Just a great game tho


Schmidt pitched a great game, didn't give up a hit from the 4 th inning to the 9 inning...He is USM #3 by the way...But like I have said before USM's bullpen is terrible...It is the only thing that could keep the Huskies from winning the Little East ...It was a great game, too very good teams battling it out: it was fun to be a part of...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on April 20, 2008, 05:03:42 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 20, 2008, 02:27:28 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on April 20, 2008, 05:51:06 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on April 20, 2008, 03:05:34 AM
Looking forward to wheaton and southern maine today, is it on webcast or the webradio at all cause i would like to watch it and or listen to the game


http://www.usm.maine.edu/~jkessler/athletics/

This should work, all home games are on the web via Radio...I must warn you though, the announcer is a homer but it gets the job done if you want to listen to the game...


Hockyfan,

Listening to Wheaton/USM game.

3-0 Wheaton at mid 6th inn.

Have to commend you, thanks for posting the USM stream for this afternoon's game.   The USM announcers is a homer, as he should, but orders of magnitude better that the ECSU announcers.  Exciting to listen  to this afternoons game.  What a difference to listen to someone who is competent and is passionate for his team  ;D


I have to sit right next to him every game: sometimes he gives me a headache..)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on April 20, 2008, 08:36:29 PM
USM/Wheaton was a great game today! Schmidt pitched a great game. Yes it could have gone either way like all games. Sunken Maine did not come through in the clutch like wheaton did. Yes you can find 3 close games in the past 5 years and 7 that were blow outs!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on April 20, 2008, 09:13:19 PM
Quote from: 363dp on April 20, 2008, 08:36:29 PM
USM/Wheaton was a great game today! Schmidt pitched a great game. Yes it could have gone either way like all games. Sunken Maine did not come through in the clutch like wheaton did. Yes you can find 3 close games in the past 5 years and 7 that were blow outs!


Why are we talking about other years???? The games this year could have gone either way just like you said...I mean did I mention the number of World Series USM has been too and they have even WON a couple...Wheaton finished 2nd once: good for them but what does that have to do with this year????
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dubbc on April 20, 2008, 09:55:39 PM
It will be interesting to see how this weekends tournament ends up.  If Babson loses i have a hard time seeing them getting an at large bid.  They have an impressive record but if you look at their schedule the only 2 key in region wins are against wheaton.  They have been beaten by econn, ksc, curry, plymouth state, and trinity.  Looking forward to it
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: nebaseball44 on April 21, 2008, 08:31:27 PM
while babson hasnt played the most difficult schedule and lacks many signature wins, they are a team coming together at the right time of the year.  11 wins in a row 2 of which are coming against wheaton a national powerhouse is nothing to look down upon.  wins against suffolk and amherst are also good wins against reputable programs.  i will be interested to see if babson does not win their conference (and say wheaton does) if they will get an at large bid.  thoughts?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 21, 2008, 09:01:59 PM
Big Game tomorrow

Trinity vs TEE

Any predictions? Word says Trinity comes up short and suffers their first defeat.

Word
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 21, 2008, 09:50:46 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 21, 2008, 09:01:59 PM
Big Game tomorrow

Trinity vs TEE

Any predictions? Word says Trinity comes up short and suffers their first defeat.

Word

If Keily is pitching: Lights out TEE
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on April 21, 2008, 10:16:02 PM
Trin will pitch Bayer and Rappaport. Bayer is a slight tick below Kiely. Pretty damn good though.

Trin is on a different planet right now...but ECSU seems to have had little trouble with them in the past.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 22, 2008, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 21, 2008, 09:01:59 PM
Big Game tomorrow

Trinity vs TEE

Any predictions? Word says Trinity comes up short and suffers their first defeat.

Word
Eastern needs this win to prove they are a contender and the enhance their atature, and they are at Home. TEE by two.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: C2islegit on April 22, 2008, 12:24:26 PM
dubbc,

Just wondering why you are so convinced that Babson would not earn an at large bid this year if they were upset in their conference tournament? They won the regular season title by going 11-1 in conference and sweeping Wheaton. They also have 25 wins with four regular season games remaining plus the tournament games. If they do reach 30 wins and don't win the NEWMAC tourney, how could the committee snub them? If you remember, last year Trinity recieved an at-large bid without even making their conference tournament, with VERY few quality wins. I have followed the NEWMAC for many years, and this is the first year I've witnessed Babson being the more talented team over Wheaton. It should be a great tourney.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on April 22, 2008, 12:58:03 PM
As of now the locks from NE for the tournament regardless of conference tourney performance should be Trinity, Keene St., Wheaton, and Babson.

Outside of the LEC teams (ECSU, USM, and possibly RIC), Amherst has the best chance to earn an at-large bid.  They have a game left with Williams, a DH vs St. Joes, and most importantly, a DH vs Trinity.  If Amherst can take a game vs Trinity and play well in the NESCAC tourney they have a legit shot at an at-large.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 22, 2008, 05:48:57 PM
This is a great year for baseball in New England. Big inter-conference games between Nescac and Newmac and Lec coming near the end of the season have implications for regional selections. All three conferences have teams peaking going into tourney time, and the weather is like spring. Holy Cows.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: C2islegit on April 22, 2008, 09:11:52 PM
Rick, I agree with your at-large predictions, and it should be interesting to see how the Little East plays out. Personally I think Keene St. will take it, and they will be the only team from the conference to make the N.E. tourney.

Kscer, I am also looking forward to seeing how these tournaments play out. A lot of teams are going into the postseason hot (Trinity, Babson, EConn, Amherst etc.) The NEWMAC tourney starts tomorrow and it will be interesting to see how Wheaton and Babson do.

Lastly, EConn just got worked by Trinity 17-2. I think it is a joke that Trinity isn't number 1 in the land. They are undefeated and beating up on powerhouses. And, EConn being a 20-11 now, should NOT be in the top 30, and currently they were according to the ABCA. Anyone know the difference between the 25 coaches in the D3baseball poll and the ABCA coaches? Let me know.

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 22, 2008, 09:26:51 PM
Trinity should be #1, but there is a prejudice against NE teams because our season's so short and what real baseball players would play in NE. Going 27-0 is a huge accomplishment.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 22, 2008, 09:31:30 PM
They are different voter bodies. In general, we keep our voters very well informed on all of our polls, D3hoops.com, D3football.com and D3baseball.com, and with the exception of the women's basketball coaches poll, we come up with different results than any other poll.

And I think we've done fairly well for ourselves in general. Obviously, with D3baseball.com's poll being new this year, it's tough to make too much of a call on our poll's track record, but we do come out every week, which helps. :)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 22, 2008, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: C2islegit on April 22, 2008, 09:11:52 PM
Rick, I agree with your at-large predictions, and it should be interesting to see how the Little East plays out. Personally I think Keene St. will take it, and they will be the only team from the conference to make the N.E. tourney.

Kscer, I am also looking forward to seeing how these tournaments play out. A lot of teams are going into the postseason hot (Trinity, Babson, EConn, Amherst etc.) The NEWMAC tourney starts tomorrow and it will be interesting to see how Wheaton and Babson do.

Lastly, EConn just got worked by Trinity 17-2. I think it is a joke that Trinity isn't number 1 in the land. They are undefeated and beating up on powerhouses. And, EConn being a 20-11 now, should NOT be in the top 30, and currently they were according to the ABCA. Anyone know the difference between the 25 coaches in the D3baseball poll and the ABCA coaches? Let me know.


Probabably because Trinity has not experienced the likes of Chapman, Carthage, Cortland State, orTexas Tyler.  They will have to earn #1 when and if they reach the D-III National Tournament, just like everyone else.

I suspect the Coaches know a bit more than you, re who should be in the top 30.

ECSU had an off night tonight and the Bantams did not see thier best pitching. besides when your all American pitcher is hurt, (Gilblair), it makes it tough to be as competitive.

Lastly, THIS SEASON IS NOY OVER YET!!!! ;)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dubbc on April 22, 2008, 11:51:41 PM
C2,
I agree with a lot of what you are saying, babson is very very good this year and seem like they might have the pitching depth for the first time to matchup with wheaton in the tournament.  Their lineup is very deep and when they are locked in they can all be very tough outs.  The biggest problem ive seen with them in a tournament type atmosphere is they tend to be very high low which we all know doesn't get your very far.
My point was that there are so many quality teams coming out of the northeast this year that in my opinion babson will have to win the NEWMACs to sure up a spot.  I certainly could be wrong though  The committee takes in region wins very seriously and it just doesn't seem they have that many of them.  Granted they could lose and then beat RIC USM and tufts and make a VERY strong case for an at large.  But you're right this is the first year in a while that going into the tournament Wheaton is not the clear cut favorite.  Should be very exciting to see how it plays out.


On another note i was very surprised on how easily Trinity handled eastern at eastern.  I wish trinity had more big in region games vs the powers to be but you can't argue with what they've done, they're clearly the favorite right now.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: C2islegit on April 23, 2008, 12:12:49 AM
Thanks to all for the replies.

Just to clarify, I wasn't questioning the knowledge of the coaches voting on the polls, I was just wondering the differences in the groups of coaches from the two different polls.

ECSU, I know EConn didn't throw their front end pitching, but that was still a huge statement made by Trinity. I guess Trinity will have to earn their respect if they did make the World Series, similar to the way Wheaton earned that respect to years ago when they made the final game of the Series.

Also, I think the D3baseball poll is even more accurate than the ABCA. It's great that it comes out weekly too.

Dubbc, how do you know so much about Babson's line-up and pitching...just curious. Thanks.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on April 23, 2008, 12:20:30 AM
EConn and Trin both threw mid-week guys.  It's not like Gilblair would have thrown that game anyways so don't use that excuse.  Eastern is a terrific hitting squad, but it will be next to impossible to duplicate their success from the last two seasons because their pitching and defense are clear cut weaknesses this year.  And without pitching and defense you can't win when in the tournament.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2008, 01:45:18 AM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on April 23, 2008, 12:20:30 AM
EConn and Trin both threw mid-week guys.  It's not like Gilblair would have thrown that game anyways so don't use that excuse.  Eastern is a terrific hitting squad, but it will be next to impossible to duplicate their success from the last two seasons because their pitching and defense are clear cut weaknesses this year.  And without pitching and defense you can't win when in the tournament.
The key is that you believe that both threw mid-week guys.

It is your mid-week guys who are pitching the fourth game in the double-elimination  Regionals.

The game counts in the minds of voters who are trying to figure out which team has more pitching depth to scale the lofty heights of the Top 10 or Top 5.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2008, 02:20:56 AM
Quote from: kscer on April 22, 2008, 09:26:51 PM
Trinity should be #1, but there is a prejudice against NE teams because our season's so short and what real baseball players would play in NE. Going 27-0 is a huge accomplishment.
WRONG!  There is no prejudice against northeast!  You have no grounds that make that rant!

The rolling season that is D-III baseball makes the interim polls a dramatic work in progress.  The early season is filled with South and West Region teams showing their stuff.  By mid-April (now), you are finally getting to see what the traditional powers, from the traditional areas in the north and northeast, are rolling out.

Stringing together several 5-0/6-0 weeks conveys solid bullpen depth.  In the South and West, you wait for weeks to find the hiccups and the ugly losses.  In the north and northeast, they roll like overwhelming tides.  By the time that you are seeing records of 25-3 or better from a known quantity with past playoff history or a conference with past playoff history, then you can confidently see that teams will jump dramatically.  Just being in the Top 10 means that a voter thinks that that team is going to Wisconsin.  UW-Oshkosh jumped in the polls last week.

1   Chapman (14)   28-3  603    1     West
2   Carthage (3)   26-1    569       2     Central
3   Cortland State (3)  27-3  567    4   New York
4   Salisbury (1)  36-2  546    3        South
5   Trinity (Conn.) (3)   27-0  543  5  New England
6   Johns Hopkins   27-4 472    8    Mid-Atlantic
7   Wooster   29-5 462   9               Mid-East
8   Texas-Tyler (1)   33-7 420     6     West
9   UW-Oshkosh   20-5 344    16  Midwest
10   RPI   25-4  332  10                      New York
11t   New Jersey   25-6  327    7     Mid-Atlantic
11t   Kean   27-8  327    12               Mid-Atlantic
13   St. Thomas   19-5  280     15    Midwest
14   Keene State   24-5 277     19    New England
15   Pomona-Pitzer   27-7 252    11   West
16   UW-Whitewater   18-4 247    20   Midwest

In the top 16 teams, we see all 8 regions represented.  In the last 8 seasons, since the start of the Pools, the champions have come from the Mid-Atlantic twice, the West twice, the Midwest twice, the Mid-east once and New England once.  (The last champion from the South was NCWC in 1999;  from New York, Ithaca in 1988; from the Central, I don't see one (http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/).)

I think that the Top 25 voters have done a great job of figuring out the teams that are having the quality years.  The top 5 are strongly positioned.  There are 57 votes between #1 and #5.  In a perfect Top 25, where #1 gets all 25 first-place votes for 625 points, and the perfect #2 gets all 25 second-place votes for 600 points, ..., #5 should get all twenty-five fifth place votes for 525 points; #1 and #5 should be 100 votes apart.  Trinity is stronger than the "perfect #5" with 543 votes.

#6 and #7 are close; then there is #8.  #9-"#12" are bunched, and #13 - #16 are grouped together.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 23, 2008, 09:37:19 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2008, 01:45:18 AM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on April 23, 2008, 12:20:30 AM
EConn and Trin both threw mid-week guys.  It's not like Gilblair would have thrown that game anyways so don't use that excuse.  Eastern is a terrific hitting squad, but it will be next to impossible to duplicate their success from the last two seasons because their pitching and defense are clear cut weaknesses this year.  And without pitching and defense you can't win when in the tournament.
The key is that you believe that both threw mid-week guys.

It is your mid-week guys who are pitching the fourth game in the double-elimination  Regionals.

The game counts in the minds of voters who are trying to figure out which team has more pitching depth to scale the lofty heights of the Top 10 or Top 5.


Rick, Ralph,

Your absolutley right about mid week guys.  In fact Esposito pitched last years 14-3 ECSU win over Trinity.  Pitching depth and defence at the .960-.970 level, ( ECSU had a 5 error game last night) is critical for any team to be successful and advance deep into ther NCAA regional/ national tourneys.

No doubt, Trinity has a great team this year,and will have a VERY good shot at the first NESCAC D-III National  Championship and will be rooting for them if a LEC team does not get in
Must admit i was a bit frustrated last night, 1) could not get the stream off of ECSU radio, 2) a post about where ECSU should be ranked in the polls 3) the score, embarrassing  >:(
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 23, 2008, 09:52:29 AM
Ralph- great post about the top 25 polls, very good information that i never knew.  I feel that the New England region this year will be very tough for any of the top three teams to win.  Right now i feel that the top three in New England are
1. Trinity
2. Keene
3. Wheaton

All of three of these teams have pitching, defense, and hitting.  i really feel that it is going to be tough for any of these three teams to win the NE region, and i feel that whoever does has a legitate shot at winning the Ship in Wisconsin.  Ralph, last year Westfield State got shipped to the NY regional, and the year before that Eastern got shipped out there, only to win it.  How does the commitee determine if a NE team gets shipped out, and is there anyway of telling who might get sent out this year?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2008, 11:37:25 AM
kscfan,

One thing that I want to look at is the records by conference in the playoff since the onset of the Pool system.

I think that the power conferences will be Little East, SUNYAC (Cortland), NJAC, Capital, UAA and WIAC.

With respect to seeding the brackets, I think that

1)  they look at the in-region seeding,
2)  they look at the 500-mile radius as to where they can ship a team to a regional site and save on a plane fare, and
3)  they try to avoid overloading a region with conference teams, when shipping a conference #2 team to another bracket may forestall the conference members meeting "too early".

The committee can do that in New England and Mid-Atlantic Regions.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 23, 2008, 12:04:21 PM
Ralph thanks for the info
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: JustAFan on April 23, 2008, 12:51:00 PM
While Trinity's Bayer hasn't been used as a weekend starter this year (although he has closed several weekend games) I think he's got the second best stuff on the Trinity staff, right behind Kiely, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Decker use him in place of Barnard as either the 2d or 3d starter come tournament time. Remember a few years back when Kiely went from never starting a weekend game to starting and winning a couple of games in the regionals, if memory serves me.  My point is that Eastern didn't see any old weekday starter last night.  And there are very few teams that can trot out a closer of the caliber of McGrath on a weekday, either. Anyone who says that Trinity is going to fall off next year because of the 4 senior pitchers they're losing doesn't appreciate how much hidden pitching talent is still left in the Trinity bullpen just waiting their chance for an opportunity to get some innings.

I'm still scratching my head over the fact that 3 of the top 5 teams in the DIII poll lost games last week, while Trinity did not, and yet Trinity did not move up even one position.  Sounds like several voters have more than one blind eye when it comes to losses suffered by certain teams. But Trinity did get some love in the ABCA poll released yesterday, moving up to #2.

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 23, 2008, 04:27:00 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2008, 02:20:56 AM
Quote from: kscer on April 22, 2008, 09:26:51 PM
Trinity should be #1, but there is a prejudice against NE teams because our season's so short and what real baseball players would play in NE. Going 27-0 is a huge accomplishment.
WRONG!  There is no prejudice against northeast!  You have no grounds that make that rant!
Ralph. I did not mean to imply that the rankings on this board are prejudiced towards anyone. I think you guys go all the way to get an as unbiased view as possible. I apologize if it was taken that way. However, there exists at all levels of play, from tee-ball to major leagues, the feeling that kids who grow up and play in New England just could not be good at baseball. I am not saying that it is evident on D3baseball.com., but it is in the baseball world.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2008, 05:55:31 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 23, 2008, 04:27:00 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2008, 02:20:56 AM
Quote from: kscer on April 22, 2008, 09:26:51 PM
Trinity should be #1, but there is a prejudice against NE teams because our season's so short and what real baseball players would play in NE. Going 27-0 is a huge accomplishment.
WRONG!  There is no prejudice against northeast!  You have no grounds that make that rant!
Ralph. I did not mean to imply that the rankings on this board are prejudiced towards anyone. I think you guys go all the way to get an as unbiased view as possible. I apologize if it was taken that way. However, there exists at all levels of play, from tee-ball to major leagues, the feeling that kids who grow up and play in New England just could not be good at baseball. I am not saying that it is evident on D3baseball.com., but it is in the baseball world.
Thanks for the clarification.  That is a new one on me.

I have visited the midwest and the northeast, for extended periods in the summer four times.  My impression was that the kids were so excited to be playing baseball, that they were consumed by it.

In Texas, we have year-around ball, but we also have the Texas Strangers, currently 7-14 and 5 GB.  At that pace, the Strangers will finish 54 games below .500 and 38 GB.  You have the Bosox and the Yankees.  Wanna trade.  Better yet , can you light a cigarette by snapping your fingers?  ;)

I think that the New England baseball is the best at its level in D3, (versus D-II or D-I.)

Let's see how the NEWMAC, NESCAC and LEC finish.

:)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: JustAFan on April 23, 2008, 07:38:51 PM
Babson may have punched Wheaton's tournament ticket this afternoon and put its own fate in the hands of the at-large decisionmakers with a shocking 12-11 loss to Clark U. in the opening round game of the NEWMAC tournament.  Babson was cruising along 11-2 after 6 innings, and pulled its starting pitcher only to see Clark score 10 runs in the 8th inning to go ahead 12-11.  Babson loaded the bases with one out in the bottom of the 9th but then hit into a game ending double play.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 23, 2008, 07:56:21 PM
justafan- is the Newmac one and done?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 23, 2008, 09:16:23 PM
Tommorows games

MIT @ Wheaton 3:30
WPI @ Babson 3:30(elimination game)
Clark @ Springfield 3:30

Wheaton would seem to be sitting pretty good for conference title. Puts Babson in poor spot for at large
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on April 23, 2008, 10:38:29 PM
Babson will have to go deep into their pitching staff, which is pretty deep. That is only one game, still a few days to go before the auto bid is handed out. Maybe Springfield is the Cinderella team?

My predictions for tomorrow;

Gingras pitches another gem as the Lyons roar to face Clark in the winners bracket.
Babson staves off elimination and makes it to Sunday!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Div3NE on April 24, 2008, 12:23:28 PM
Top 15 Records in New England, with conf records and vs Top 20 teams in New England.  Let the debate begin for at large teams.

SCHOOL   W   L   PCT   W   L   PCT   vs top twenty
Trinity   28       1.000    12       1.000   8W 0L
Keene S   24   6   0.800    9   1   0.900   5W 4L
Wheaton   28   7   0.800    9   3   0.750   14W 2L
Curry   25   7   0.781    15   4   0.789   9W 6L
Roger Wil   28   9   0.757    20   2   0.909   9W 4L
Suffolk   23   8   0.742    12       1.000   8W 5L
Babson   25   9   0.735    11   1   0.917   9W 6L
Amherst   17   7   0.708    8   3   0.727   5W 1L
USM   21   9   0.700    6   2   0.750   7W 9L
WNEC   24   11   0.686    15   5   0.750   10W 7L
Williams   19   9   0.679    6   2   0.750   2W 5L
RIC   21   10   0.677    7   3   0.700   6W 6L
Wentwo   23   11   0.676    11   7   0.611   1W 6L
Salem St   23   12   0.657    7   5   0.583   4W 4L
Eaconn   21   11   0.656    6   3   0.667   8W 4L
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: C2islegit on April 24, 2008, 12:54:05 PM
To all,

I attended the Babson vs Clark game yesterday and it certainly was a wild one. Babson started out dominting by hitting 4 home runs (one to lead off their half of the first) then adding another in the fourth, and going back to back in the 6th to make the lead 11-2, which held until the 8th. The way Clark came back was unreal. They kept hitting ground ball singles that made it through the holes in the infield. The one crushing blow was a 3 run homer to cut the lead to 5, which made the comeback reasonable for them. Babson pulled it's ace who was cruising through 6th, and that's when the unthinkable happened. There were 4 HBP's in the inning, half were skimmed jersey shots that proved costly. Babson only made one error, which is quite amazing because usually in double digit innings at any level there would be more than one error, especially if all the hits other than the homer are ground ball singles.

Babson will have to battle their way to the championship and likely have to take on Wheaton twice to grab the title. They are an explosive and team that proved they can put together streaks, as that loss snapped an 11 game win streak. Should be interesting to see how they bounce back today.

In regards to the at large, I think it is a little to early to speculate because of conference tourney's, but I think 2-3 of the 14 national at large bids will be given to the New England Region, which is very strong this year. Stump, I certainly wouldn't say Babson has a poor chance at an at large simply because of one fluke bad inning in the first round of their conference tourney. Remember, they were 11-1 in regular season play including TWO wins over Wheaton.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dubbc on April 26, 2008, 06:43:44 PM
Babson is eliminated from NEWMAC tourney by springfield this afternoon.  Wheaton beats MIT again to move into championship series, springfield will have to beat them twice.... hope the rain holds off at sidell tomorrow

Does anyone still honestly believe Babson deserves an at large bid now?  KSC USM and ECONN all must of enjoyed seeing them being bounced out so early... another huge let down for Babson fans

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 26, 2008, 08:15:06 PM
Quote from: dubbc on April 26, 2008, 06:43:44 PM
Babson is eliminated from NEWMAC tourney by springfield this afternoon.  Wheaton beats MIT again to move into championship series, springfield will have to beat them twice.... hope the rain holds off at sidell tomorrow

Does anyone still honestly believe Babson deserves an at large bid now?  KSC USM and ECONN all must of enjoyed seeing them being bounced out so early... another huge let down for Babson fans



Babson has to hope for all the other tourneys to go to the regular season champs to have a hope for NCAALand; still a fine season for the Babson Leave to Beavers. They should garner a ECAC bid at the least.

Word
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 27, 2008, 01:45:40 AM
babson not making it to the finals is a real blow to thier ncaa hopes.  Its to bad cause i root for babson even though i am a keene state fan.  I feel they have a quality program with a bunch of class acts as players and coaches.  should be interesting to see who gets the at large from the NE region now.  I feel that if Trinity or Keene gets upset in thier tournys they will get that at large, if both win thier tourny well then maybe babsons got an outside chance.  Still i believe to many loses against lec teams and nescac teams for it to matter.  Most likely off to the ecacs for the beaver which is to bad as they are a great team. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on April 27, 2008, 02:16:30 PM
Don't count Babson out yet.  Don't forget that teams that play in leagues with earlier tournaments often schedule games AFTER their conference tournament.  Babson still has 4 games on the schedule.

April 30 vs Rhode Island College
May 1 at Southern Maine
May 4 vs Tufts (DH)

That is four games against four quality opponents and four chances to build that resume.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 27, 2008, 06:31:17 PM
NE D-III Fans:

We have St. Joe's and Wheaton in the NCAA. Anyone else secured a spot?

1) Wheaton
2) St. Joe's
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: C2islegit on April 28, 2008, 02:01:27 AM
I feel as though Babson still has a shot at a Pool C bid. With four huge games remaining, as well as currently have a very solid in region record (25-9), they certainly still can get an at large.

Dubbc,
Simply because Babson was eliminated in the semi's of their conference tourney after dominating the regular season, doesn't mean you can write them off. It will be interesting to see how they do in their final four games, but if they do win out it would be a crime if they didn't get a Pool C bid.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 30, 2008, 09:45:02 AM
Some great games for all you fans of good NE d3 baseball thursday and friday.  If you live up north on thursday you get Keene at ST Joes, St Joes already going to the regionals, it would seem that Keene is too but i dont want to jinx them.  If you are from Southern NE then you can get Wheaton and ECSU under the lights at the Death Star, home of the Evil Empire and Emperor Holywater.  Friday if you live in Middle NE then you can get Keene at Wheaton, two teams that very very good, and seem to battle with each other very well.  THis all leads into Conferance mania on sat as some Conferance tournys get under way, where as seedings and locations are up for grabs in some other ones.  What a great 4 days of baseball coming up!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on April 30, 2008, 11:02:55 AM
Being a homer I can't help but remind folks in Western NE of another great matchup on Sunday.  Williams and AmHerst, the best rivalry in D3 sports, battle in Pittsfield, MA to determine who wins the NESCAC West and avoids Trinity in game 1 of the NESCAC tourney.  I assume the pitching match-up will be a good one as Benz takes on stud frosh Keenan.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Spartan on April 30, 2008, 01:12:38 PM
Why is the game in Pittsfield?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 30, 2008, 02:52:56 PM
They (who by the way are 'they'?), but I digress, they say a picture says a thousand words. So I thought I would post some picture thoughts about this weekend big games around New England.

ECONN (TEE) vs PlyWood State
http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/Picture.asp?ID=326

KSC Fans head to Left Field Fence Line for the RIC Doubleheader
http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/Picture.asp?ID=376

USM vs Worst Conn
http://www.comedy-zone.net/pictures/work/work29.htm


KSC Sweeps RIC and Hosts in the Swamp
http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/Picture.asp?ID=348


And Finally, Word hard at work and Word's pet dogs

http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/Picture.asp?ID=358

http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/Picture.asp?ID=375

More later,

Word
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 30, 2008, 04:15:04 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 30, 2008, 02:52:56 PM
They (who by the way are 'they'?), but I digress, they say a picture says a thousand words. So I thought I would post some picture thoughts about this weekend big games around New England.

ECONN (TEE) vs PlyWood State
http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/Picture.asp?ID=326

KSC Fans head to Left Field Fence Line for the RIC Doubleheader
http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/Picture.asp?ID=376

USM vs Worst Conn
http://www.comedy-zone.net/pictures/work/work29.htm


KSC Sweeps RIC and Hosts in the Swamp
http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/Picture.asp?ID=348


And Finally, Word hard at work and Word's pet dogs

http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/Picture.asp?ID=358

http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/Picture.asp?ID=375

More later,

Word

Just rolling around on the floor in my office in tears (of laughter)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Fans head to the Fence"  will be a classic for mucho years to come on this board

The dogs and Mr Potato Head...I could not keep the tears back

killsometime.com  unbelievable!! ;D
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on April 30, 2008, 06:03:41 PM
Old: See Williams athletics website.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bill Gorman on April 30, 2008, 07:05:38 PM
Not talked about at all, but some crazy games in The CommonWealth Coast Conference Tournament, which got underway this afternoon.  #4 Wentworth (28-11) defeated #5 Endicott (19-19), 5-1, while #3 Western New England (28-11) defeated #6 Salve Regina 11-5 (21-18-1).  Those were normal.

Meanwhile...#1 Roger Williams (30-10) defeats #8 Gordon (11-21), 3-2, on a walk-off Sac Fly, while #2 Curry (27-8-1) trailed #7 Colby-Sawyer (14-21), 8-2, before rallying to tie it.  The game is still at 8-all in the 14th inning at last check.

Tomorrow features #4 Wentworth at #1 Roger Williams in one winner's bracket game and #8 Gordon at #5 Endicott in one loser's bracket game.  WNEC awaits the Curry/CSC winner, while Salve gets the Curry/CSC loser.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 30, 2008, 07:18:31 PM
Interesting stuff Bill, as I think if Curry doesn't at last reach their championship game they will not receive an at-large bid. Good news for the bubble teams like Suffolk and Babson if Curry indeed fails to reach the championship game.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bill Gorman on April 30, 2008, 07:22:38 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on April 30, 2008, 07:18:31 PM
Interesting stuff Bill, as I think if Curry doesn't at last reach their championship game they will not receive an at-large bid. Good news for the bubble teams like Suffolk and Babson if Curry indeed fails to reach the championship game.
Babson lost to RIC today, 6-2.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bill Gorman on April 30, 2008, 07:44:35 PM
Curry prevails, 9-8, in 15 innings.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 01, 2008, 09:42:18 AM
Put a fork in Babson, with the loss to RIC, Babson will not get the at large over some of the other teams in NE.  The LEC has been there downfall this year, with loses to Keene, RIC, Plymouth, Eastern, and still have Southern to come.  I would sooner think that the at large will come out of the LEC and or the NESCAC over Babson now.  THis might open the door for Eastern CT, and or a Williams.  Still a lot depends on how the conferance tournys play out



Word as someone that has been around the KSC program for the last 5 years your picture of the left field fence had me lauging out loud at work today and people staring at me.  THey came over to look and i had to quickly ex out of the page as i was suppoused to be doing something else.  Hilarious word keep it up!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 01, 2008, 11:17:51 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 01, 2008, 09:42:18 AM

Word as someone that has been around the KSC program for the last 5 years your picture of the left field fence had me lauging out loud at work today and people staring at me.  THey came over to look and i had to quickly ex out of the page as i was suppoused to be doing something else.  Hilarious word keep it up!

Actually, I had you and PA and MO and JW and JY and RS in mind when I posted that.

I'll see you Saturday on the left field fence line. Manin' the line   for the SWampRats; by the way don't SwampRats love to feast on Quahogs from Rhode Island?

Word
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 01, 2008, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 01, 2008, 09:42:18 AM
Put a fork in Babson, with the loss to RIC, Babson will not get the at large over some of the other teams in NE.  The LEC has been there downfall this year, with loses to Keene, RIC, Plymouth, Eastern, and still have Southern to come.  I would sooner think that the at large will come out of the LEC and or the NESCAC over Babson now.  THis might open the door for Eastern CT, and or a Williams.  Still a lot depends on how the conferance tournys play out



Word as someone that has been around the KSC program for the last 5 years your picture of the left field fence had me lauging out loud at work today and people staring at me.  THey came over to look and i had to quickly ex out of the page as i was suppoused to be doing something else.  Hilarious word keep it up!

ECSU over Wheaton  2-1. big win to solidify possible at large bid to Tourney if not Pool A from LEC Tourney Win
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 02, 2008, 07:28:46 AM
Eastern kills me, every year they go out to californina and they come back sub 500 or around 500.  Then you know as soon as you get into NE they are going to turn it on, espically later season.  That win over Wheaton was huge for them, as they immediatly become i think the frontrunner for the at large if they dont win the LEC tourny.  I know that thier loss column is a little high, but i think a combination of thier quality wins, last season winning ways, and thier "reputation" they will prob get in, espically if they run deep into the LEC tourny.  Just one of these years i would like to see them fall on thier faces, but they never seem to do.  As for Babson, next year they should sneak around NE and blow up the fields of all LEC teams, as the LEC was the downfall of them this year.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 02, 2008, 09:07:41 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 02, 2008, 07:28:46 AM
Eastern kills me, every year they go out to californina and they come back sub 500 or around 500.  Then you know as soon as you get into NE they are going to turn it on, espically later season.  That win over Wheaton was huge for them, as they immediatly become i think the frontrunner for the at large if they dont win the LEC tourny.  I know that thier loss column is a little high, but i think a combination of thier quality wins, last season winning ways, and thier "reputation" they will prob get in, espically if they run deep into the LEC tourny.  Just one of these years i would like to see them fall on thier faces, but they never seem to do.  As for Babson, next year they should sneak around NE and blow up the fields of all LEC teams, as the LEC was the downfall of them this year.

KCFAN,

I think Coach HolyWater really does not worry about winning the CA games.  He is checking out the new recruits and looking at the team as a whole to determine who are starters.   Matt Fontaine , Chris Wojick really shut down the Wheaton offence and did a great job.  With the Lyons already clinching Pool A, they may not have been totally engaged.  ECSU is always tough in the streach, and sort of lull you to sleep.  Still wish we had S Gilblair healthy!!

Keene will do fine, they have a great team this year.  Will be a great LEC Tourney, cant wait.

By the way, how is the BB field up in Keene after all the flooding? ( I know Word will have commment ;D) Playable? Would they move to different location for the LEC Tournament??  Hope a wet/muddy  field does not come into play here
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 02, 2008, 12:24:45 PM
KSCfan... Good Competition means good play.. EConn plays a tough non-conference schedule every year. This year no different - starting with defending champs Kean on the road. Then going to California to play Ithaca, Pomona-Pitzer, Whittier, Redlands. The LEC is tough but they still continue with a tough non-conference schedule as well taking on the likes of Trinity, Montclair St., Mahantanville, Roger Williams, Amherst, Suffolf, Babson, and Wheaton. (5-2-1 record). When it comes to LEC play they are seasoned. Coach H replaces guys like Re, Cooney, LaVorgna, Iverson, and O'Toole with the likes of Parke, Magliola, Wojick and Fontaine. He reloads and doesn't let the team rest on their laurels. I'm sure Coach H is hoping that his team's play against those top teams will help in securing an at - large bid if they fall short in the LEC tourney.

ECSu alum.... Anyone at the Wheaton game last night was treated to a well played game. EConn's defense play errorless ball for the first time in a long time. Wheaton was engaged with good starting pitching from McDonough until they brought in a lefty to face Gilblair . Good game. Defense definitely helped Fontaine and Wojick. As everyone has mentioned on previouos posts... the LEC tourney should be a classic - no matter when it is played. Being a fan of EConn from RI - I'm hoping that RIC gives Keene all it can handle. Going into next week's tourney the "NotsoTEE" is shaping up with a rested starting rotation, bullpen, and much improved defense.

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 02, 2008, 02:20:26 PM
By the way, how is the BB field up in Keene after all the flooding? ( I know Word will have commment ;D) Playable? Would they move to different location for the LEC Tournament??  Hope a wet/muddy  field does not come into play here
[/quote]

I walked the field last night. It is soggy in right field and damp in the other normal spots. I agree I hope it does not come into play this weekend. I am still not sure about hosting the LEC because I don't have a good handle on the tie-breakers (shame on me). But I think it will come down to a 3 way tie for the LEC.

In all seriousness, wow, here goes Word being serious. Keene State is a GREAT college (see below), within a great setting, a fantastic town, a strong coaching fraternity and a very fine baseball staff.

The challenge for the KSC Administration is to pay some quality attention ($$$) to the baseball, and softball program for that matter, and their respective facilities. KSC is known as a soccer and basketball school, both inside the college and out. Nothing wrong with that, but KSC has two of the finer gentlemen and coaches in the country in Ken Howe and Charlie Beach plioting these teams. Howe was made full-time just in the last couple of years, Dr. Beach just in the last couple of weeks. They have both done amazing jobs on a PT basis.

KSC, in my humble opinion (and I have funded 2 graduates through the KSC system and have watched and supported KSC baseball for many years) needs to reward these coaches, their hard work, and their fine programs with upgrades of the facilities. The Swamp is much like the Old Boston garden, quaint, but past her time. Yes we joke about the right field bog much like Coz and Bird joked about the Dead spots on the old Garden Floor. (Hear that RI??)But it is time to step up and support these programs.

Congrats to the KSC coaching Staff and players for a great year.

There, off my soapbox.  :)  Word Dammit

Jostens Institution of the Year
This award is presented annually to the ECAC institution that best exemplifies the highest standards of collegiate academics and athletic performance.

Previous Winners: 2007  Brandeis University 
2006  New York University 
2005  Keene State College   
2004  Williams College 
2003  Harvard University 
2002  University of Maryland 
2001  Williams College 
2000  Georgetown University 
1999  Williams College 
1998  Princeton University 
1997  Middlebury College 
1996  Princeton University 
1995  Williams College 



Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 02, 2008, 03:26:11 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 02, 2008, 02:20:26 PM
By the way, how is the BB field up in Keene after all the flooding? ( I know Word will have commment ;D) Playable? Would they move to different location for the LEC Tournament??  Hope a wet/muddy  field does not come into play here

I walked the field last night. It is soggy in right field and damp in the other normal spots. I agree I hope it does not come into play this weekend. I am still not sure about hosting the LEC because I don't have a good handle on the tie-breakers (shame on me). But I think it will come down to a 3 way tie for the LEC.

In all seriousness, wow, here goes Word being serious. Keene State is a GREAT college (see below), within a great setting, a fantastic town, a strong coaching faternity and a very fine baseball staff.

The challenge for the KSC Administration is to pay some quality attention ($$$) to the baseball, and softball program for that matter, and their respective facilities. KSC is known as a soccer and basketball school, both inside the college and out. Nothing wrong with that, but KSC has two of the finer gentlemen and coaches in the country in Ken Howe and Charlie Beach plioting these teams. Howe was made full-time just in the last couple of years, Dr. Beach just in the last couple of weeks. They have both done amazing jobs on a PT basis.

KSC, in my humble opinion (and I have funded 2 graduates through the KSC system and have watched and supported KSC baseball for many years) needs to reward these coaches, their hard work, and their fine programs with upgrades of the facilities. The Swamp is much like the Old Boston garden, quaint, but past her time. Yes we joke about the right field bog much like Coz and Bird joked about the Dead spots on the old Garden Floor. (Hear that RI??)But it is time to step up and support these programs.

Congrats to the KSC coaching Staff and players for a great year.

There, off my soapbox.  :)  Word Dammit

Jostens Institution of the Year
This award is presented annually to the ECAC institution that best exemplifies the highest standards of collegiate academics and athletic performance.

Previous Winners: 2007  Brandeis University 
2006  New York University 
2005  Keene State College   
2004  Williams College 
2003  Harvard University 
2002  University of Maryland 
2001  Williams College 
2000  Georgetown University 
1999  Williams College 
1998  Princeton University 
1997  Middlebury College 
1996  Princeton University 
1995  Williams College 




[/quote]

Word,

Nice review of situation at Keene.  The Baseball team has worked hard and deserves a quality facilty, and besides a top rate facility attracts a lot players on the fence (no pun intended) between a quality D-III program and perhaps a D II program, it all in the package, good facility, coaching/successful program, academics, campus life , location.

re Jostens Award, Keene in with some pretty classy company!!
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 02, 2008, 03:55:20 PM
Eye-See the KSC-Wheaties match is cancelled. Any ideas why?

Too bad a great Inter-NewEngland match-up. Better for KSC as the real important games come tomorrow vs the Quahogs of Rhody.

Still the loss to the Monks, while not unexpected, did not help KSC in the all important At-Large Bid contest.
They have lost to AmHerst, Williams, WNEC, St. Joe's in NE, whilst defeating Babson, Brandeis, and the JACs of the world. Still must remember they defeated CCNJ twice, and Johns Hopkins to start the year.

Word
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 04, 2008, 01:50:02 PM
Would anyone like to speculate on the New England regional at-large situation? How many bids do you guys think New England will receive? Some are saying 3, others are saying 4. With that, who is in the running?

Let's look at the regional rankings from last week;

1. Trinity - I'm going to assume the Bantams will win the NESCAC tournament, as they are currently 34-0 and easily the best team in the conference. They would receive the pool A bid.

2. Wheaton - Wheaton has already won the NEWMAC, thus earning an automatic bid to Harwich.

3. Keene State - Keene is the top team in the LEC, along with Eastern. The way I see it, one of these two teams is going to win the LEC, and the other will receive an at-large bid.

4. Eastern Connecticut - See above.

5. Suffolk - The big wild card in New England, imo. Suffolk really hurt their chances last week by failing to win the GNAC after running the table in the regular season, but they still have an excellent record (27-10), and are 3rd in strength of schedule in New England, only trailing Trinity and Eastern Connecticut. The Rams have 5 games remaining, and should at least go 3-2 in those games, thus guaranteeing themselves 30 wins. At worst, I see them finishing at 30-12, and I think this should be enough to get them an at-large bid, so long as the teams above them win their conferences.

6. Amherst - Amherst is an interesting case. They currently sit at 22-9-1, and have a number of impressive wins on their resume. They swept St. Joe's of Maine yesterday, who last week earned an automatic bid by winning the GNAC. The only problem I see with Trinity is the fact their regular season is completed, and they only have 22 wins. I don't think they can beat Trinity to win the NESCAC, so an automatic bid is out of the question. Let's say they win 2 games before bowing out in the tournament, they would end their season with 24 wins. Could the committee really justify awarding an at-large bid to a team with 24 wins over a team like Suffolk, with 30 wins? I'm not sure.

7. Roger Williams - RW pretty much sealed their fate by losing in their conference tournament yesterday, failing to even reach the finals. Although they have an excellent record, their weak strength of schedule and lack of impressive wins makes it highly unlikely Roger Williams will receive an at-large bid.

8. Southern Maine - USM is another interesting case, and I think they're definitely in the running for an at-large bid. They have an excellent record (29-10) while playing in one of the best conferences in the country. They've beaten some very good teams, and their offense is downright scary. The only problem facing USM in my opinion is their conference. I don't think they have the pitching to beat Keene State or Eastern Connecticut, and if they fail to win their conference, there is no way the committee will award two at-large bids to the LEC, along with the automatic bid. For USM, it's win or go home.

9. WNEC - WNEC is my sleeper from this region. Although they started 0-5, they've since gone 30-6 to run their record to 30-11. They are slated to play for the CCC championship today, and I think they'll handle Wentworth to receive the automatic bid. Once they get to Harwich, watch out for these guys. They have the pitching to surprise a lot of people (Anderson and Pizzoferrato are as good as they come).

So, what does all this mean? Basically, I think the automatic bids will go to Trinity from the NESCAC, Keene State from the LEC, and WNEC from TCCC. That leaves the following teams in the running for an at-large, and I've ranked them in order for their likelihood to receive a bid. Again, this is just one man's opinion, and I am simply going on what the knowledge that is already out there.

1. Eastern Connecticut - They have the history, the strength of schedule, and the impressive wins to guarantee themselves a spot in the regionals this year.

2. Suffolk - 3rd in the region in strength of schedule, and they still have 5 games remaining, with a very good chance of going 30-12.

3. Southern Maine - They're going to finish with 30-32 wins, and their strength of schedule is among the best. Although I have already mentioned the unlikelihood that the committee will award two at-large bids to the LEC, I think there is an even greater unlikelihood that the committee will award an at-large to a team with 24 wins (Amherst) over a team with 30+ (USM, Suffolk).

4. Amherst - As stated earlier, their lack of wins is going to hurt them immensely.

5. Roger Williams - I think their goose is cooked now that they have failed to win TCCC, but I don't see any team in the region who would be considered for an at-large before these guys.

Alright, now that I've wasted everyone's time with this drivel, what does everyone else think?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Knuckles97 on May 04, 2008, 05:49:41 PM
Are Wheaton and St. Joe's still the only two teams that have earned NCAA bids in the Region?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 04, 2008, 06:41:41 PM
Quote from: Knuckles97 on May 04, 2008, 05:49:41 PM
Are Wheaton and St. Joe's still the only two teams that have earned NCAA bids in the Region?

Worcester State snapped a 4-4 tie with a four-run, seventh-inning uprising in a 9-4 victory over Westfield State in the Massachusetts State College Athletics Conference baseball tournament championship game. Worcester State, 23-16 and riding a nine-game winning streak, earns and automatic berth to the NCAA Division III Tournament.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 04, 2008, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 04, 2008, 06:41:41 PM
Quote from: Knuckles97 on May 04, 2008, 05:49:41 PM
Are Wheaton and St. Joe's still the only two teams that have earned NCAA bids in the Region?

Worcester State snapped a 4-4 tie with a four-run, seventh-inning uprising in a 9-4 victory over Westfield State in the Massachusetts State College Athletics Conference baseball tournament championship game. Worcester State, 23-16 and riding a nine-game winning streak, earns and automatic berth to the NCAA Division III Tournament.


WNEC Secured an Auto-Bid to the NC2As this afternoon. Congrats to Coach LaBranche, another real quality coach who has done an outstanding job without a lot of 'pub'.


Western New England College cages Leopards to claim TCCC Tournament crown
Baseball


SPRINGFIELD, Mass. – Junior pitcher Jason Pizzoferrato (Windsor, CT) won his eighth game of the season without a loss as third-seeded Western New England College posted a 6-4 victory over fourth-seeded Wentworth Institute of Technology in the championship game of The Commonwealth Coast Conference (TCCC) Baseball Tournament Sunday afternoon (May 4) at Trelease Park.

The Golden Bears, who posted a perfect 4-0 record in the playoffs, will receive an automatic invitation to the NCAA Division III Tournament for the third straight year. This is Western New England College's inaugural first season in TCCC after capturing the Great Northeast Athletic Conference (GNAC) Tournament title the last two seasons.

Coach Matt LaBranche's squad now has a 31-11 record after running its winning streak to nine games.


Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 05, 2008, 09:43:59 AM
Teams in:
1. Wheaton
2. WNEC
3. St Joes
4. Worchester State

Teams still to be decided on

Keene State
Eastern CT
Southern Maine
Trinity
Suffolk


Some serious competition this year in the regionals.  Shaping up to be better than last years talent wise.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 05, 2008, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 05, 2008, 09:43:59 AM
Teams in:
1. Wheaton                      NEWMAC
2. WNEC                             CCC
3. St Joes                           GNAC
4. Worchester State          MASCAC

Teams still to be decided on

Keene State
Eastern CT
Southern Maine
Trinity
Suffolk

Some serious competition this year in the regionals.  Shaping up to be better than last years talent wise.
The NAC has a Pool A bid this year.  We need the Pool A bids from the NESCAC and LEC.

There are 14 Pool A bids to give nationwide.  Expect one or two for New England.

Tourney FAQ (http://www.d3baseball.com/faq/category/NCAA+Tournament)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Knuckles97 on May 05, 2008, 10:40:43 AM
Is that your current seeding as well?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 05, 2008, 04:29:09 PM
Here is how I see things right now.  This year there are 8 team regionals and 6 team regionals (no 7's--I think).  I put 1-9 here even though there can only be 8 teams.  Somebody is going to get shipped out and everyone else moves accordingly

1.  Trinity (win or lose in the NESCAC)
2.  Keene State (here if they win LEC tourney--in field but lower if they do not)
3.  Wheaton
4.  Western New England
5.  Eastern Connecticut / Southern Maine (whoever goes farther in LEC)
6.  ***See Below***
7.  St. Joe's Maine
8.  Worcester State
9.  NAC winner

6th Seed
Scenario #1--Williams makes it to the NESCAC finals, Williams gets the 6 seed
Scenario #2--Amherst makes it to the NESCAC finals, Amherst gets the 6 seed
Scenario #3--Tufts makes it to the NESCAC finals, Suffolk gets the 6 seed--this all depends on how Suffolk plays this week as they have games against MIT, Umass Boston, Endicott, & St. Joe's Maine (DH)

Looks like a VERY STRONG field.  This year may be the year that the team sent to the NY region isn't that upset about being shipped out.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: met_fan on May 05, 2008, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 05, 2008, 04:29:09 PM
This year may be the year that the team sent to the NY region isn't that upset about being shipped out.

Could be, but I don't think any of them want to play Cortland either.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on May 05, 2008, 06:02:33 PM
The year Trinity went to the World Series (my guess 2003) it came out of the NY regional and over Cortland.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 05, 2008, 06:29:13 PM
Cortland is arguably the best team in the NY / New England area but 2-8 I think the field in New England will be much stronger.  But we will never know.

I would actually LOVE to see more crossing up in these tournaments (although I don't see it happening).  Send some NY teams to Harwich & send some NE teams to Auburn NY.  I think every team in the running for these spots is within 500 miles of both sites. 

ECSU has also gone through the NY region to get to Wisconsin
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 05, 2008, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 05, 2008, 06:29:13 PM
Cortland is arguably the best team in the NY / New England area but 2-8 I think the field in New England will be much stronger.  But we will never know.

I would actually LOVE to see more crossing up in these tournaments (although I don't see it happening).  Send some NY teams to Harwich & send some NE teams to Auburn NY.  I think every team in the running for these spots is within 500 miles of both sites. 

ECSU has also gone through the NY region to get to Wisconsin
Paul, I agree.  As much as the budget will allow.

With the price of diesel, and an anticipated four airfares in the West, I hope that the committee can move some teams between the regions, if affordable.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: met_fan on May 05, 2008, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: frank uible on May 05, 2008, 06:02:33 PM
The year Trinity went to the World Series (my guess 2003) it came out of the NY regional and over Cortland.

I'm not trying to say they couldn't win, just that going through Cortland will be no easier than going through Trinity.  I'm guessing 75% of the teams in the NCAAs are capable of getting hot for a weekend and winning a regional tournament, even though they may not be the best team.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 05, 2008, 10:07:17 PM
Just wanted to share some NCAA D-III statistics as of 2007 here on most successful baseball programs in post season play (alphabetical order):

CWS Points:   4 for 1st place, 3 for 2nd , 2 for thirdplace , 1 for 4th place

                       Years          Tourney        Years       CWS
Team            in Regional     W      L         in CWS   Points  comments
-------           ---------------    ---     ---        ---------   --------  ------------

Cal St Stan,       10              49    21          10          19       now D- II
ECSU                 28             101   54          12          28       LEC
Ithaca                30              89    61          NA         21       Empire 8
Marietta             28             123   58          19         37        OAC
Montclair St        23              97    46          13         23        NJAC
NC Wesleyan     20              73    43          12         14        USA South
Rowan               17              50    32            6         10        NJAC
SUNY Cort.         16              50    32            8           7        SUNYAC
Wooster             21              45    45           4           5        NCAC
U St Thomas       12              35    23           3         10        MIAC
US Maine            16              48    32           6           8        LEC
UW Oshk            22            101    47           17        24       WIAC
W. Patterson      17              56    33           NA        11

Points are indication of toughness/sucess at CWS  Separates the men from the boys
WHERE ARE ALL THE CALIFORNIA/TEXAS TEAMS!!!!!                       
     
   
             
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Man on May 05, 2008, 11:04:57 PM
Hello????

5. Suffolk - The big wild card in New England, imo. Suffolk really hurt their chances last week by failing to win the GNAC after running the table in the regular season, but they still have an excellent record (27-10), and are 3rd in strength of schedule in New England, only trailing Trinity and Eastern Connecticut. The Rams have 5 games remaining, and should at least go 3-2 in those games, thus guaranteeing themselves 30 wins. At worst, I see them finishing at 30-12, and I think this should be enough to get them an at-large bid, so long as the teams above them win their conferences.
??? ??? ???

Why is suufolk #3?  - according to my stats they are 22-9 in region. whaere do you find thier=srenght of schedule?    trinty -23-0, wheaton - 28-5 after ducking KSC (field unplayable)????, KSC - 23-6, ECSU - 20-8-1,
Tell me why??????????????????


Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 05, 2008, 11:10:58 PM
Quote from: Old Man on May 05, 2008, 11:04:57 PM
Hello????

5. Suffolk - The big wild card in New England, imo. Suffolk really hurt their chances last week by failing to win the GNAC after running the table in the regular season, but they still have an excellent record (27-10), and are 3rd in strength of schedule in New England, only trailing Trinity and Eastern Connecticut. The Rams have 5 games remaining, and should at least go 3-2 in those games, thus guaranteeing themselves 30 wins. At worst, I see them finishing at 30-12, and I think this should be enough to get them an at-large bid, so long as the teams above them win their conferences.
??? ??? ???

Why is suufolk #3?  - according to my stats they are 22-9 in region. whaere do you find thier=srenght of schedule?    trinty -23-0, wheaton - 28-5 after ducking KSC (field unplayable)????, KSC - 23-6, ECSU - 20-8-1,
Tell me why??????????????????




I'm going on what I was told happened during the conference call last week. Suffolk's opponent's winning percentage is 3rd in New England, I presented that information wrong. Regardless, Suffolk has played the 3rd hardest schedule in NE, according to the committee.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 05, 2008, 11:19:43 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 05, 2008, 04:29:09 PM
Here is how I see things right now.  This year there are 8 team regionals and 6 team regionals (no 7's--I think).  I put 1-9 here even though there can only be 8 teams.  Somebody is going to get shipped out and everyone else moves accordingly

1.  Trinity (win or lose in the NESCAC)
2.  Keene State (here if they win LEC tourney--in field but lower if they do not)
3.  Wheaton
4.  Western New England
5.  Eastern Connecticut / Southern Maine (whoever goes farther in LEC)
6.  ***See Below***
7.  St. Joe's Maine
8.  Worcester State
9.  NAC winner

6th Seed
Scenario #1--Williams makes it to the NESCAC finals, Williams gets the 6 seed
Scenario #2--Amherst makes it to the NESCAC finals, Amherst gets the 6 seed
Scenario #3--Tufts makes it to the NESCAC finals, Suffolk gets the 6 seed--this all depends on how Suffolk plays this week as they have games against MIT, Umass Boston, Endicott, & St. Joe's Maine (DH)

Looks like a VERY STRONG field.  This year may be the year that the team sent to the NY region isn't that upset about being shipped out.

Paul, I'm going to disagree with your 6th seed scenarios. The only chance Williams has at making the regionals is if they win the NESCAC - the committee said as much last week by failing to rank them in New England. Same with Amherst - ranked behind Suffolk, as long as Suffolk has a strong week, I don't see them getting the at-large, especially when comparing the in-region wins.

Suffolk is 25-9 in region (Montclair State and TCNJ both count in-region). Amherst I believe only has 15 in-region wins. Even if they win 2 games in the NESCAC tournament, that will only give them 17, with the chance of having 10 or 11 less in-region wins than Suffolk.

I just don't see either of those teams earning an at-large over Suffolk at this point.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 06, 2008, 12:19:03 AM
Just to chip in a few things.  The last two years the NESCAC has been a two-bid conference, so that bodes well for Williams or Amherst if they make the NESCAC championship game. 

I could see a circumstance where two squads from the LEC receive at-larges.  I have never seen Suffolk play, but based on quality of opponents, I would say that KSC, USM, and ECSU all deserve at large bids over Suffolk. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2008, 12:39:22 AM
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 05, 2008, 10:07:17 PM
Just wanted to share some NCAA D-III statistics as of 2007 here on most successful baseball programs in post season play (alphabetical order):

CWS Points:   4 for 1st place, 3 for 2nd , 2 for thirdplace , 1 for 4th place

                       Years          Tourney        Years       CWS
Team            in Regional     W      L         in CWS   Points  comments
-------           ---------------    ---     ---        ---------   --------  ------------

Cal St Stan,       10              49    21          10          19       now D- II
ECSU                 28             101   54          12          28       LEC
Ithaca                30              89    61          NA         21       Empire 8
Marietta             28             123   58          19         37        OAC
Montclair St        23              97    46          13         23        NJAC
NC Wesleyan     20              73    43          12         14        USA South
Rowan               17              50    32            6         10        NJAC
SUNY Cort.         16              50    32            8           7        SUNYAC
Wooster             21              45    45           4           5        NCAC
U St Thomas       12              35    23           3         10        MIAC
US Maine            16              48    32           6           8        LEC
UW Oshk            22            101    47           17        24       WIAC
W. Patterson      17              56    33           NA        11

Points are indication of toughness/sucess at CWS  Separates the men from the boys
WHERE ARE ALL THE CALIFORNIA/TEXAS TEAMS!!!!!                                 
The ASC has only been a Pool A conference since 2001. In the last seven years, the West Region (where the ASC competes) has won two National titles.  The ASC has had four teams make the NCAA's in that time.  SCAC members Trinity and Southwestern have also made the NCAA's in that time in the West Regionals..

The problem with the ASC at the national level is that we do not have the pitching depth that the WIAC, or the LEC or the NJAC have.  NJAC schools have come to Texas on spring trips.  We saw players from NJ that would be on scholarship in Texas.  Most likely, they would be among the 26 JUCO schools or the 20 D-II's or 10 NAIA schools, if not 15 some-odd D-1's.  :)

There is one unique difference about D-III baseball, i.e., the quality of the pitching staffs that are concentrated in the state schools.  You will notice that I mentioned three of the proposed power conferences.  Add in strong schools such as Salisbury and Cortland, and you have described many of the power teams in D3.   We do not see that state schools dominance in D-III football or basketball.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 06, 2008, 01:44:32 AM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 06, 2008, 12:19:03 AM
Just to chip in a few things.  The last two years the NESCAC has been a two-bid conference, so that bodes well for Williams or Amherst if they make the NESCAC championship game. 

I could see a circumstance where two squads from the LEC receive at-larges.  I have never seen Suffolk play, but based on quality of opponents, I would say that KSC, USM, and ECSU all deserve at large bids over Suffolk. 

I can understand the KSC/ECSU argument for an at-large before Suffolk (I've mentioned as much in my previous posts), but I don't see USM getting in without winning the LEC. USM was swept by Suffolk already this year, and were ranked 9th last week in the regional rankings (the rankings which actually matter), whereas Suffolk was 5th. Suffolk has followed that ranking with a 3-0 week, and could conceivably end their week 7-0, to finish at 32-10. In order for Suffolk to drop in the rankings, they'd have to lose 2-3 games, and as of right now that hasn't happened.

Like I've mentioned before, Suffolk has the 3rd highest opponent's winning percentage in New England, behind only Trinity and Eastern Connecticut. As of right now, I think they're the front-runner for the 2nd at-large bid.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Nuke LaLoosh on May 06, 2008, 10:57:27 AM
The NESCAC has actually gotten a Pool C three years in a row. Trinity last year (not sure it was deserved) Bowdoin in '06, and Trinity again in '05 (a team that went to Wisconsin).

I think if either Williams or Amherst can beat Trinity this weekend, they should get in. If they both beat Trinity (not going to happen) then whoever wins the league, assuming it's not Tufts, will get the Pool A and Trinity will obviously get the Pool C.

I don't see Amherst beating Kiely, even though TK struggled some against them a few weeks ago, but I do think Williams has a shot if they can get by Tufts on Friday.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 06, 2008, 04:42:29 PM
My theory on Williams or Amherst getting that bid over Suffolk was based on what I think will happen not on what I think should happen.

From my limited time following all of this I have noticed that the NCAA does what they does.

2005--Two at large teams--1 NESCAC & 1 LEC
2006--Two at large teams--1 NESCAC & 1 LEC
2007--Two at large teams--1 NESCAC & 1 LEC

my bad grammar above was intended.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 06, 2008, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 06, 2008, 04:42:29 PM
My theory on Williams or Amherst getting that bid over Suffolk was based on what I think will happen not on what I think should happen.

From my limited time following all of this I have noticed that the NCAA does what they does.

2005--Two at large teams--1 NESCAC & 1 LEC
2006--Two at large teams--1 NESCAC & 1 LEC
2007--Two at large teams--1 NESCAC & 1 LEC

my bad grammar above was intended.


Those are excellent points. That being said, I think this is the first year since 2005 that Suffolk has a team that can actually earn an at-large bid... in both 2006 and 2007, the at-large bids were given to the favorites. IIRC, the only team who even had an argument in either of those years was Babson last season. This year, the committee put Suffolk before Williams and Amherst in last week's rankings, and if Suffolk can win 2 of their 3 remaining games (which I think is likely) to finish 30-11, I don't think they'll drop behind Amherst or Williams in the at-large chase.

Of course, this could all change if either of those teams can knock off Trinity. If that happens, all bets are off.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 06, 2008, 06:13:36 PM
The GNAC
Are you kidding me? Suffolk... I'm sure the committee will look long and hard at an Endicott victory. They better win twice against St. Joes. Come on...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: C2islegit on May 06, 2008, 07:07:20 PM
There is no way Amherst or Williams deserves an at-large. After an LEC team takes one of the Pool C bids, the next would be either Suffolk, and if not them, most likely Roger Williams. If neither of those two, I would take Babson over any other NESCAC team. Even after losing 5 of their last 6, Babson still has 25 in region wins and beat both Suffolk and Amherst. If Roger Williams got snubbed, you can still make a case for Babson over the NESCAC 2nd place team.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 06, 2008, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 06, 2008, 06:13:36 PM
The GNAC
Are you kidding me? Suffolk... I'm sure the committee will look long and hard at an Endicott victory. They better win twice against St. Joes. Come on...

Do you even know how the committee works? Take a look at last week's rankings. Where's Suffolk ranked? 5th. Who's ahead of them? Trinity, Wheaton, and the two LEC teams. Assuming Trinity wins the NESCAC (not a stretch), and one of Keene/ECSU wins the LEC (again, not a stretch), that leaves Suffolk and the other LEC team one and two in the at-large rankings.

Suffolk followed last week's ranking with a 3-0 week thus far, and like I said earlier, have a realistic shot at going 5-1 or 6-0. St. Joe's will be resting their arms, whereas Suffolk is going to throw their #1 and #2 arms.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 06, 2008, 09:20:37 PM
GNAC......
What I meant was that Suffolk shouldn't be counting on the Endicott game for consideration for an at-large bid.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 06, 2008, 09:26:31 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 06, 2008, 09:20:37 PM
GNAC......
What I meant was that Suffolk shouldn't be counting on the Endicott game for consideration for an at-large bid.

I agree, but at the same time beating Endicott and splitting with St. Joe's should still get them in. That would give them a 5-1 week, and push their in-region record to 27-10 (.729). Last year, Keene State (a Pool C qualifier) went 25-11 in-region, for a winning percentage of .694. As long as they don't drop both games to St. Joe's, I still think Suffolk and the other LEC team should get the bids.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 06, 2008, 09:41:41 PM
Just realized I made a mistake in my last post, as I misread Keene's in-region record. They were actually 21-9, good for a .700 winning percentage. Doesn't change my point, but for posterity's sake, I'd like to be as accurate as possible.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dubbc on May 06, 2008, 09:57:10 PM
GNAC...
You have made some good points on an at large bid for suffolk and Id have to agree with you... Here is some more info to consider, the number of quality opponents suffolk has played is right up there with any team in NE. A team should not be penalized for scheduling the best available teams in the region day in day out.  Of their 10 loses 6 of them are to teams that have already clinched a tourney bid and 2 of the other ones are to ECONN and TCNJ (most likely will both receive bids)
If you look at both williams and amherts schedule the number or quality in region opponents is not even close to Suffolk or even Roger Williams for that matter.  I'd put both of the ahead of those nescac teams. (granted everything could change this weekend... looking forward to it

on another note, c2 can we please put babson to bed for they year.... they have no shot at an at large bid with they way they folded down the stretch, good year but should not even be considered
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 08, 2008, 06:55:57 PM
Suffolk lost two today to St. Joes.  That just strengthens the case for a 2nd NESCAC team or a 3rd LEC team.  Or both.  Williams, Amherst, ECSU, and USM all have to be very happy to see those losses.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 08, 2008, 07:43:07 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 08, 2008, 06:55:57 PM
Suffolk lost two today to St. Joes.  That just strengthens the case for a 2nd NESCAC team or a 3rd LEC team.  Or both.  Williams, Amherst, ECSU, and USM all have to be very happy to see those losses.


Yes: USM likes to see that: as well as them beating Eastern 14-3 today...
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on May 08, 2008, 07:53:18 PM
The 31 wins, beating ECSU so badly and the Suffolk losses should move USM up in the rankings. There are three very, very good teams playing in Keene in the LEC Tournament. KSC, USM and ECSU and they all deserve to compete at the regionals.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 08, 2008, 08:33:04 PM
Yeah, I hate to say it, but I think Suffolk may have screwed themselves by dropping both games today. Although much of the selection is based on statistics, so we could see some surprises next week.

Anyway, I don't think Suffolk losing affects Williams or Amherst's chances of getting a bid - thy were ranked too low to leap over Suffolk, barring either of them beating Trinity, which isn't happening. However, Southern Maine has to be very happy to see Suffolk lose. Although the Huskies dropped both games head-to-head with Suffolk, they beat up on ECSU today, and one more win in the LEC tournament should secure them the 2nd at-large bid.

Right now, I think it breaks down like this for the at-large;

1. ECSU/Keene
2. USM
3. Suffolk
4. Amherst
5. Williams
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on May 08, 2008, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 08, 2008, 08:33:04 PM
Yeah, I hate to say it, but I think Suffolk may have screwed themselves by dropping both games today. Although much of the selection is based on statistics, so we could see some surprises next week.

Anyway, I don't think Suffolk losing affects Williams or Amherst's chances of getting a bid - thy were ranked too low to leap over Suffolk, barring either of them beating Trinity, which isn't happening. However, Southern Maine has to be very happy to see Suffolk lose. Although the Huskies dropped both games head-to-head with Suffolk, they beat up on ECSU today, and one more win in the LEC tournament should secure them the 2nd at-large bid.

Right now, I think it breaks down like this for the at-large;

1. ECSU/Keene
2. USM
3. Suffolk
4. Amherst
5. Williams
Three bids to the LEC? Is that possible?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 08, 2008, 09:12:27 PM
Wouldn't surprise me, since they're the most deserving.

FYI, there's talk of the CWIW in the Midwest getting 3-4 at-large bids, and that's just one conference.

Definitely a possibility all three of those teams are playing in a regional next week.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2008, 09:21:06 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 08, 2008, 09:12:27 PM
Wouldn't surprise me, since they're the most deserving.

FYI, there's talk of the CWIW in the Midwest getting 3-4 at-large bids, and that's just one conference.

Definitely a possibility all three of those teams are playing in a regional next week.
If you're thinking of the Central Region's CCIW, there are only two at-large contenders and with one AQ: Carthage, Illinois Wesleyan and Augustana. One of those will get the Pool A, another will get a Pool C and the other will be on the bubble.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 08, 2008, 09:22:32 PM
Ah, I must've misread that, then. Isn't Wheaton (Ill.) also in contention?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2008, 09:27:12 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 08, 2008, 09:22:32 PM
Ah, I must've misread that, then. Isn't Wheaton (Ill.) also in contention?
Very, very good team, but Wheaton isn't in the running. The Thunder need to win the CCIW.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 08, 2008, 11:38:31 PM
A post on the LEC board asked who would be the one to beat Trinity.  I would like to remind you who ended the last 30+ game winning streak by a Trinity team. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: RedDevils36 on May 09, 2008, 04:42:17 PM
How about another LEC Tourney win over KSC by USM, 8-4? 

I'm pretty sure USM has all but sealed their fate with that win, regardless of a tourney championship.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 09, 2008, 07:14:49 PM
GNAC, I am obviously biased toward Williams, but why do you insist on saying Amherst has a better chance at an at large over Williams every time.  Amherst's best wins are a DH sweep of St. Joes and Keene St, while Williams has wins over Keene, RPI, and So Maine.  Also Williams has 24 wins to 22 for Amherst.  Finally, Williams won the NESCAC West title.  Amherst did win the head-to-head, which is big, but Williams holds the advantage in everywhere else.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 09, 2008, 07:58:59 PM
Rick, I'm just going with the regional rankings. Amherst is ranked ahead of Williams, therefore, pending an Amherst loss to Williams, they will receive the bid before Williams. Only reason -- I haven't seen either team play in person, and based on what I know of both teams I'd say Williams is the better ballclub. However, all that matters is what the committee is thinking, and right now they're leading towards Amherst.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 09, 2008, 10:01:05 PM
The regional ranking may hold importance when determining an at large, but I get the sense that they do not hold as much water when ranking the teams within the regional.  I am pretty sure Williams was 4th or 5th in NE going into the regional last year, but were given the 3 seed.  That is why I am slightly skeptical of regional rankings.  Do you have any knowledge of similar situations?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 09, 2008, 10:45:32 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 09, 2008, 10:01:05 PM
The regional ranking may hold importance when determining an at large, but I get the sense that they do not hold as much water when ranking the teams within the regional.  I am pretty sure Williams was 4th or 5th in NE going into the regional last year, but were given the 3 seed.  That is why I am slightly skeptical of regional rankings.  Do you have any knowledge of similar situations?

Williams was ranked 3rd in New England in the 3rd and final regional rankiing in 2007.

http://www.d3sports.com/dailydose/2007/05/10/ncaa-regional-rankings-third-release/

The regional rankings are the most important aspect of the process. These rankings are the ones submitted to the NCAA National Selection Committee. They list the at-large teams, and right now Suffolk, Southern Maine, and Amherst are ahead of Williams. In order for that to change, I really think Williams with have to knock off Trinity and/or win the NESCAC in order for them to move ahead of the teams in front of them.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2008, 10:48:49 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 09, 2008, 10:01:05 PM
The regional ranking may hold importance when determining an at large, but I get the sense that they do not hold as much water when ranking the teams within the regional.  I am pretty sure Williams was 4th or 5th in NE going into the regional last year, but were given the 3 seed.  That is why I am slightly skeptical of regional rankings.  Do you have any knowledge of similar situations?
We do not see the final regional ranking that occurs after all of the teams in the region are finished and before the Selection committee begins its deliberations.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 09, 2008, 11:00:41 PM
An interesting situation is brewing in Keene tomorrow.

Here is the question I pose to you D3'ers;

Tomorrow, Southern Maine will take on Keene State for the LEC title, and the automatic bid that accompanies it. What happens if Keene beats USM twice to take the conference? That would give KSC the automatic bid, and leave a lot of questions for the committee regarding the 2nd at-large bid.

By losing twice, does Southern Maine hurt it's chances for a Pool C? I say no, as knocking off Econn and KSC tin a span of two days IMO guarantees them the first at-large bid in the region.

That leaves Eastern, Suffolk, and Amherst battling for that last at-large bid. How will the committee view Suffolk's dropping two to GNAC champ St. Joe's? Will they drop Conn for going 1-2 in the LEC tournament? What happens if Amherst knocks off Trinity but then loses in the NESCAC tournament?

The next few days are shaping up to be pretty interesting for New England.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 09, 2008, 11:39:08 PM
Your're right GNAC .. interesting happenings in Keene. Econn went 2-2 in the LEC tourney. How the committee looks at this is anyone's guess.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 09, 2008, 11:46:19 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 09, 2008, 11:39:08 PM
Your're right GNAC .. interesting happenings in Keene. Econn went 2-2 in the LEC tourney. How the committee looks at this is anyone's guess.

My fault, you're right. Still, I think most people expected TEE to at least reach the championship game. Should be a very interesting day on Sunday.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on May 10, 2008, 06:27:55 AM
NESCAC teams really screw themselves for atlarge bids because of their scheduling limitations. Not being able to play the full 40 games really makes their resumes look a lot weaker.

Williams has the inside track to overtake Amherst. They could definitely face each other, and that could be the X factor. I give Williams the inside track because facing Tufts seems alot easier than facing Kiely and Trinity.

The weather is really going to hurt whatever NESCAC team(s) end up in the NCAAs. On Wednesday, NESCAC teams will have a pitcher going on 3 days rest. While Kiely is EXTREMELY impressive, I don't think he's ever done that before.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 10, 2008, 06:54:24 AM
Bostonian
Weather in NE - gotta love it! That's the price you pay when tourneys are scheduled so close to regionals,finals and graduations. A lot of things can happen. Teams like Wheaton and Worcester have pitchers rsted and waiting while Keene and USM have to play 1 or 2 for the LEC title - weather permitting and NESMAC goes to Sunday. Trinity really doesn't need to use Kiely this weekend unless it is really important to stay undefeated.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on May 10, 2008, 09:30:38 AM
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 10, 2008, 06:54:24 AM
Bostonian
Weather in NE - gotta love it! That's the price you pay when tourneys are scheduled so close to regionals,finals and graduations. A lot of things can happen. Teams like Wheaton and Worcester have pitchers rsted and waiting while Keene and USM have to play 1 or 2 for the LEC title - weather permitting and NESMAC goes to Sunday. Trinity really doesn't need to use Kiely this weekend unless it is really important to stay undefeated.
Good point. We always assume a team will use their ace in a tournament. What's the value of remaining undefeated vs. winning the first game in the regionals?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on May 10, 2008, 11:23:04 AM
I think at this point for Trinity they have to start thier ace if they plan on using him at all in this tourney.  That will give at least three days rest for the regionals.  If they jump out to a lead they can limit his pitches and work the pen a little.  I don't think Kiely will not be over worked in this touney. Do you think the seeding for regional is important?  Being the #1 or #2 seed,  not sure it's that important.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on May 10, 2008, 11:34:06 AM
The rule of thumb is " always use your ace if he is ready". Al Lopez had an object lesson story to support that rule, in which for apparent good reason he had withheld a ready Herb Score, and the action proved that Lopez had outsmarted himself. If you don't recognize Lopez' and Score's names, that means you are not extremely old and don't know baseball history very well. If someone pleads, I will reiterate the story here.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Nuke LaLoosh on May 10, 2008, 06:07:57 PM
Tough day for Williams.

Amherst beat Williams 9-8 in extras in the losers bracket game, after Williams was up 8-4 heading to 8th.

Amherst plays Tufts tomorrow morning, with winner having to beat Trinity twice afterwards.

Trinity used Bayer in game 2, and he went 7 innings not allowing a run. Trinity has either Barnard or Regan to throw in championship game, while Amherst and Tufts will be pretty thin after their third games. Looks as if Trinity will be 37-0 heading to regionals.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on May 10, 2008, 07:29:40 PM
Quote from: frank uible on May 10, 2008, 11:34:06 AM
The rule of thumb is " always use your ace if he is ready". Al Lopez had an object lesson story to support that rule, in which for apparent good reason he had withheld a ready Herb Score, and the action proved that Lopez had outsmarted himself. If you don't recognize Lopez' and Score's names, that means you are not extremely old and don't know baseball history very well. If someone pleads, I will reiterate the story here.
I've heard of both but I'm not sure I heard the story.......plead, plead, plead.  Love baseball stories
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 10, 2008, 08:02:46 PM
Anybody care to speculate on the Pool C situation in New England? Southern Maine lost both of their games today to fall to 27-12 in-region, good for a .692 winning percentage. Compare that with Suffolk, who finished at 26-11 in-region, for a .703 winning percentage. Suffolk beat USM twice head-to-head, so this makes me think the committee will have a tough time justifying USM being ranked ahead of Suffolk on Sunday.

Then of course there is theE case of Eastern Connecticut.  EConn got bounced early in the LEC tourney, but they have been ranked high all year long, and I think even though they failed to make the LEC final, they should have an at-large bid locked up. I think they're the front-runner for the first Pool C bid from New England.

Which brings us to Amherst. Amherst lost 9-1 today to Trinity, and that's not a real big surprise. They then beat Williams, setting up tomorrow's game with Tufts. If they can get by the Jumbos, they will then need to beat Trinity twice to win the NESCAC. Suffice it to say this isn't likely to happen, but what if Amherst is able to win a game over the #1 team in the region? Do they jump ahead of USM and Suffolk for that second Pool C bid? Honestly, I have no idea.

Of course, there is also the possibility the committee will simply award just one Pool C bid to New England. I don't know the last time this happened, but I know in the last three years both the NESCAC and LEC have been awarded at-large bids. Essentially, the committee has a lot of decisions to make tomorrow, and there will be a lot of upset folks in New England no matter what they decide.

Also, I'm sure there's a lot of happy people in the EConn and Suffolk camps today.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on May 10, 2008, 09:49:38 PM
Honestly, I thought the 14-3 thumpimg of ECSU and the 8-4 win over KSU locked a bid for the Huskies.  Don't know if the two lopsided losses to Keene will take away from that or not.  I was glad to see KSU win the LEC and the automatic bid because now they don't need a Pool C, which they for sure would have gotten.  I think USM is setting pretty good for a Pool C if the committee doesn't frown on the two lopsided losses to KSU.  Then ECSU would be the next logical pick.  Regional losses have been to nothing but quality teams and for the most part NCAA potential regional teams.  With wins over teams, like Wheaton, Keene, Suffolk, USM. 
It is going to be a tough job for the committee but I think New England will get two Pool C's and I think it will be USM and ECSU.  Unless someone beats Trinity for the A bid.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on May 10, 2008, 10:10:54 PM
DGil: The year is 1956 - the team is the Cleveland Indians. Al Lopez was the manager of the Indians from 1951 through 1956. Each of those years the Indians finished second in the AL except for 1954 when they won the pennant - some reputable commentatators considered the Indians of that period as the second best team in all of MLB behind you know whom. In 1955 Herb Score was a LHP for the Indians and the AL rookie of the year. He had a terrific fast ball and in 1956 was regarded by the consensus of authorities as the best LHP in the majors - mostly due the velocity of his number one. The other starting pitchers for the Indians that year were Bob Lemon, Early Wynn and Mike Garcia - all then aging greats (Lemon and Wynn being in Cooperstown now) - but Score was clearly the Indians ace and almost unhittable when he was right. The Indians faced a Sunday doubleheader at home (I don't remember against whom) - and Score was ready to pitch. Cleveland Municipal Stadium, the Indians home park, was situated during the baseball season so that the expanse between home plate and the mound was entirely in the sun early in the afternoon but was partly in the shade and partly in the sun in the late afternnon. Lopez wanted Score to have the advantage of throwing his fast ball from the sun into the shade and so held Score out from the first game in order to pitch him in  the second game of the doubleheader (again I don't remember whom Lopez pitched in the first game). The result was the Indians lost the first game, and the second game was a rain-out. I'll let you discover what happened to Score so that his name is barely remembered today.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on May 10, 2008, 11:03:03 PM
Well I knew what happen to Score and why his career was not what it could have been.   Score was a great prodigy that could or should have been an all time great HOF'er.  As my son is a Indians fan and me being a baseball nut who collects cards and loves baseball stories, even not so old ones as far as that go's. I talk to ECSU fans that have followed the team for a decade or so and love their take on the teams of the past as to the teams of the present, but I digress. Score was a lefty with a great fastball and I knew that he got hit in the face.  I do believe there was a Boston player who suffered a similar fate.  I don't remember all of this.

Compliments of Wikipedia:
Score came up as a rookie in 1955 with the Cleveland Indians. He quickly became one of the top power pitchers in the American League, no small feat on a team that still included Bob Feller, Bob Lemon and other top pitchers, going 16-10 with a 2.85 ERA in his first year. A left-hander, Score struck out 245 batters in his rookie year, a rookie record that stood until 1984, when it was topped by Dwight Gooden (Score, Gooden, Don Sutton, Gary Nolan, Kerry Wood, and Hideo Nomo were actually the only six rookie pitchers to top 200 strikeouts in the 20th century). Score actually topped himself in 1956, going 20-9 with a 2.53 ERA and 263 strikeouts, while reducing the number of walks from 154 to 129. He also allowed 5.85 hits/9 innings, which would stand as a franchise record low until it was broken by Luis Tiant's 5.30 in 1968.

1957-1958
On May 7, 1957, against the New York Yankees, Score was struck in the face by a line drive off the bat of Gil McDougald, breaking numerous bones in his face and leaving him quite bloodied. McDougald reportedly vowed to retire if Score was blinded as a result, but Score actually eventually recovered his 20/20 vision, though he missed the rest of the season. Score returned late in the 1958 season, but fearful of being hit by another batted ball, his pitching motion was altered, and he was never quite the same pitcher.

Later Career:
His velocity dropped and he became prone to injury as a result of the changed motion. Score pitched the full 1959 season, going 9-11 with a 4.71 ERA and 147 strikeouts. Score was traded to the Chicago White Sox after the season, and pitched parts of the subsequent three seasons before retiring. Score finished with a career record of 55-46 and a 3.36 ERA and 837 strikeouts over 8 seasons, in 858 1/3 innings pitched.

Broadcasting Career:
After retiring, Score served as an announcer on the Indians television broadcast from 1964-1967, and joined the radio broadcast, serving from 1968-1997. Score was revered by fans for his announcing style, including a low voice and a low-key style, as well as a habit of occasionally mispronouncing the names of players on opposing teams.

Score's final Major League Baseball game as play-by-play announcer was Game 7 of the 1997 World Series. He outlasted all other Indians play-by-play announcers to date.

Traffis Accident:
On October 8, 1998, while driving to Florida after being inducted into the Broadcasters Hall of Fame the night before, Score was severely injured in a traffic accident.[1] Score pulled into the path of a westbound tractor-trailer truck in New Philadelphia, Ohio; and his car was struck in the passenger side.[2] He suffered trauma to his brain, chest and lungs. The orbital bone around one of his eyes was broken as were three ribs and his sternum. He spent over a month in the intensive care unit, and was released from MetroHealth Hospital in mid-December.[3][4] He was cited for failure to stop at a stop sign.[5]

He fought through a difficult recovery and was healthy enough to throw out the first pitch at the Indians Opening Day on April 12, 1999.[6]

Lagacy:
In 1981, Lawrence Ritter and Donald Honig included him in their book The 100 Greatest Baseball Players of All Time. They explained what they called "the Smokey Joe Wood Syndrome," where a player of truly exceptional talent but a career curtailed by injury should still, in spite of not having had career statistics that would quantitatively rank him with the all-time greats, be included on their list of the 100 greatest players. In the book's introduction, they used this as their reason why Score, with 55 career wins, was on their list, while Early Wynn, who won 300 games, all in the post-1920 Live Ball Era, was not.

Now we know why he was barely remembered but that still doesn't tell us what happened to the game that was rained-out? 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: RedDevils36 on May 11, 2008, 04:19:21 PM
The 106th season of the Portland Twilight League is upon us, based out of Portland, Maine.

Portland Twilight Baseball League tryouts will take place on Sunday, May 18th at 10AM. They will be held at the Frozen Ropes Training Center. Any interested in trying out will need to pay a $10 and pre-register (either now or upon arrival). You may obtain a pre-registration sheet at Frozen Ropes in Westbrook. A draft will take place at 2PM the same day and you will be contacted by your coach/manager.

Anyone who has graduated High School is eligible to tryout. The majority of our players are between 18-25, but there are still older players sprinkled throughout the league.

Anyone living in the Sanford area (Biddeford and south essentially) may send me a private message and I will forward your information to the General Manager of the team. Same goes for anyone living north of Lewiston (I believe they are having their own tryout).

If you have any questions about the league, feel free to email me.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2008, 07:29:50 PM
Thanks Frank and Dgilblair.  +1!

I had a "Field of Dreams" moment there recalling Herb Score.

Baseball has the best stories!

Take home lesson...

There are very few things better in life than enjoying a baseball game with your Dad, (or watching your kids play).

You won't know how much you miss your dad until he is gone.   :)

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on May 11, 2008, 08:43:41 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2008, 07:29:50 PM
Thanks Frank and Dgilblair.  +1!

I had a "Field of Dreams" moment there recalling Herb Score.

Baseball has the best stories!

Take home lesson...

There are very few things better in life than enjoying a baseball game with your Dad, (or watching your kids play).

You won't know how much you miss your dad until he is gone.   :)



Frank deserves most of the credit for that, but thanks. 

Nice take home lesson on top of +1 karma. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on May 12, 2008, 12:17:07 AM
Ralph, you are welcome. DGil, I believe the Red Sox player was Tony Conigliaro. I'll let a Red Sox fan  tell the story.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 12, 2008, 12:37:14 AM
Quote from: frank uible on May 12, 2008, 12:17:07 AM
Ralph, you are welcome. DGil, I believe the Red Sox player was Tony Conigliaro. I'll let a Red Sox fan tell the story.
Tony_Conigliaro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/)

Oh yes......

That ranks up there with Eight Belles and Joe Theisman for pornographic* calamitous injuries in sporting events.   I haven't looked to see if the film clip is on youtube! :-\

* "you know it when you see it"
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: frank uible on May 12, 2008, 06:10:19 AM
For the ultimate in on-field MLB tragedies google "Ray Chapman".
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on May 12, 2008, 07:41:00 AM
Quote from: frank uible on May 12, 2008, 06:10:19 AM
For the ultimate in on-field MLB tragedies google "Ray Chapman".
There's a book called "the Pitch that Killed" by Mike Sowell that really puts a human being to this statistic.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: DIII Dad on May 12, 2008, 07:21:59 PM
I believe the pitcher that got hit with the line drive back at him from the Red Sox was Bryce Florie. Was watching that game and woke my wife up to tell her. She saw the replays and it didn't make her feel to good considering our son is a pitcher.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on May 20, 2008, 10:48:00 PM
I have enjoyed what d3baseball.com has done for publicity for division 3 baseball.  Especially in New England.  The all-american rankings they coem up with are fun as well.  I have to say, however- that this years rankings are a travesty.

My count may be off, I don't know.  I think I counted 56 players in total named to 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Honorable Mention.  A whopping 5 players from New England were named.  Are you kidding me?  I am sorry, but the averages need to be considered.  There are teams out West that are playing more games, further spread out and the scores are higher, warmer weather vs weak pitching.  I would line up a team of 9 New England players that should be on that list.

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on May 20, 2008, 11:18:29 PM
Quote from: soxfan42585 on May 20, 2008, 10:48:00 PM
I have enjoyed what d3baseball.com has done for publicity for division 3 baseball.  Especially in New England.  The all-american rankings they coem up with are fun as well.  I have to say, however- that this years rankings are a travesty.

My count may be off, I don't know.  I think I counted 56 players in total named to 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Honorable Mention.  A whopping 5 players from New England were named.  Are you kidding me?  I am sorry, but the averages need to be considered.  There are teams out West that are playing more games, further spread out and the scores are higher, warmer weather vs weak pitching.  I would line up a team of 9 New England players that should be on that list.
Could be worse ... the Midwest had four players.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 21, 2008, 12:01:52 AM
Kinda makes you wonder who was nominated from your nine players, soxfan.

Eight regions, 59 players -- the average region would in theory have seven. It's a fairly exclusive list. We're not putting four outfielders or two utility players or two catchers or two second basemen on a team. Those are just some examples of what the coaches association New England team has.

D3sports.com doesn't work that way. Does it mean that our people have to make a lot of tough calls when All-American time comes around? You bet. But we don't duck tough decisions.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 21, 2008, 10:45:54 AM
I was hoping that Trin would get more than one.  Obviously Kiely was a first-teamer, and I thought should have been pitcher of the year.  I was hoping that Wood, Killeen, Graham, Regan, Bayer, or Barnard would get at least Hon Mention.

On the NE getting the shaft bit, what really hurt the regions numbers was the lack of big numbers from EConn.  Hate em or love em they spit out players with big time numbers and they often grab two or three slots on those teams.  Gilblair's injury and Castillo's numbers sliding slightly are what hurt NE more.  That said, I still would have liked to see more than one player from a 41-0 team get some love.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 21, 2008, 11:15:53 AM
Rick Vaughn.
I can't agree more.... Trinity being 41-0, going through NE like they did and the regional... there's got to be more than one. Nationally, hopefully this weekend, Trinity will show how well rounded they are beyond Kiely. He deserves it, but I think the country will get to see more of what made them 41-0 this year.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: YagsUMB on May 21, 2008, 04:35:59 PM
Wood and Graham undoubtedly deserved at least honorable mention accolades. Hopefully they see this and it motivates them to take the National Championship back to NE. Not that they need any more motivation. They really got hosed with that Cortland draw but I guess they are doing everything by region, so they knew what they were in for. A win in that first game and they should have the confidence to keep rolling through the weekend.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 21, 2008, 05:00:53 PM
Trinity actually had 7 players that received votes which is a testament  that it was not just one player who carried the team.  Compare this to the other teams ranked in the top 11 spots in the Top 25.  Five for Chapman, Kean, and Johns Hopkins with four for UW-Whitewater and Cortland. 

The team concept is alive and well in Conn. and is recognized as such by our panel.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 21, 2008, 07:07:52 PM
To the baseball gods that know more than i do, is there any possible draft picks out of d3 NE this year?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Bostonian on May 21, 2008, 07:28:59 PM
Kiely will get drafted or sign a minor league deal if not drafted.

If Trinity got hosed by not having Wood or Graham get on the list, Steve Ragonese should be pretty upset as he was the NESCAC player of the year and didn't get a sniff either.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 21, 2008, 07:47:16 PM
I have a few theories about why New England kids may be at a slight disadvantage when it comes to national honors.

1.  Most teams go on a spring trip in March and then season is basically April 1st to the first week in May.  That is about 6 weeks of games.  The games are so bunched together that it is VERY hard for pitchers to pitch as many innings as guys in the south and west (and even parts of the mid atlantic).  This hurts hitters too, I think it is tough put up those numbers every day with playing 7-8 games and week where it is easier to put up numbers with playing 4-5 games per week (I know I am arguing both sides here since it is a zero sum game, meaning if it is harder for the pitchers and harder for the hitters it is then harder for neither, but I think it may play a role).  Pitcher of the year Kenny Moreland started 13 games and pitched 100 innings, if a new england kid pitched that much he'd have to be throwing a complete game every time out and doing it on 3 days rest (guessing, i didn't really do the math).

Another way that this factors in is with a kid getting banged up.  Say a kid from Chapman (first California team I thought of) fouls a ball of his ankle really badly and is banged up.  It happened in the 8th inning of Sunday's game.  Coach says, "hey just stay off the ankle for 4 days"  That kid misses 1 game (and possibly none).  In New England that kid missing those days could miss up to 3-4 games.  And what is more likely to happen is that he will just play through it and possibly hamper him for a longer time.

2.  Weather factors in again.  Teams go south or west and play against teams that are in full swing.  They aren't going to win that many games and also not put up huge batting averages, ERAs, or wins for pitchers.  A pitcher comes back from spring break with a 1-1 record and a 5.30 ERA that hurts them all year long.  The 8 teams (I through out trinity since they were undefeated for the season and 1-0 on spring break) that made the NCAA tournament were 44-41 on their spring trips this year.

3.  In this one I am coming after the New England posters here.  Get out there, talk about new england baseball.  I don't have time, or access to really determine this with facts but, I think you will notice that on national boards there are a lot more people posting and talking about kids from other regions.  I am guessing that a lot of people that vote read these boards.  Nothing wrong with talking guys up (facts based, not "this guy is nasty").  You get someone's name out there it may help (or not help, these are just theories) when it comes time for those voters to vote.   

Just my thoughts, thought throw it out there and see what people think.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 21, 2008, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 21, 2008, 07:47:16 PM
3.  In this one I am coming after the New England posters here.  Get out there, talk about new england baseball.  I don't have time, or access to really determine this with facts but, I think you will notice that on national boards there are a lot more people posting and talking about kids from other regions.  I am guessing that a lot of people that vote read these boards.  Nothing wrong with talking guys up (facts based, not "this guy is nasty").  You get someone's name out there it may help (or not help, these are just theories) when it comes time for those voters to vote.   

Posters should not have any impact on an All-American team. That's just misguided.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on May 21, 2008, 09:26:04 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 21, 2008, 07:47:16 PM
I have a few theories about why New England kids may be at a slight disadvantage when it comes to national honors.

1.  Most teams go on a spring trip in March and then season is basically April 1st to the first week in May.  That is about 6 weeks of games.  The games are so bunched together that it is VERY hard for pitchers to pitch as many innings as guys in the south and west (and even parts of the mid atlantic).  This hurts hitters too, I think it is tough put up those numbers every day with playing 7-8 games and week where it is easier to put up numbers with playing 4-5 games per week (I know I am arguing both sides here since it is a zero sum game, meaning if it is harder for the pitchers and harder for the hitters it is then harder for neither, but I think it may play a role).  Pitcher of the year Kenny Moreland started 13 games and pitched 100 innings, if a new england kid pitched that much he'd have to be throwing a complete game every time out and doing it on 3 days rest (guessing, i didn't really do the math).

Another way that this factors in is with a kid getting banged up.  Say a kid from Chapman (first California team I thought of) fouls a ball of his ankle really badly and is banged up.  It happened in the 8th inning of Sunday's game.  Coach says, "hey just stay off the ankle for 4 days"  That kid misses 1 game (and possibly none).  In New England that kid missing those days could miss up to 3-4 games.  And what is more likely to happen is that he will just play through it and possibly hamper him for a longer time.

2.  Weather factors in again.  Teams go south or west and play against teams that are in full swing.  They aren't going to win that many games and also not put up huge batting averages, ERAs, or wins for pitchers.  A pitcher comes back from spring break with a 1-1 record and a 5.30 ERA that hurts them all year long.  The 8 teams (I through out trinity since they were undefeated for the season and 1-0 on spring break) that made the NCAA tournament were 44-41 on their spring trips this year.

3.  In this one I am coming after the New England posters here.  Get out there, talk about new england baseball.  I don't have time, or access to really determine this with facts but, I think you will notice that on national boards there are a lot more people posting and talking about kids from other regions.  I am guessing that a lot of people that vote read these boards.  Nothing wrong with talking guys up (facts based, not "this guy is nasty").  You get someone's name out there it may help (or not help, these are just theories) when it comes time for those voters to vote.   

Just my thoughts, thought throw it out there and see what people think.

Paul

Chapman schedule, never more than 3 games a week.  One stretch of 13 days between games, one of 11,8,7,6. 

ECSU schedule, played 3 games in a week only two times.  The first week of the season and the last week of the regular season because of a rainout against Tufts with no time to reschedule.  The remaining weeks included two weeks of 4 games and four weeks of 5 games.  This includes a stretch of 9 games in eight days in California.

Both teams play tough schedules.

There are two trains of thought as far as how many games you play in a week.  SOme say it is better to play more games a week for hitters because you can get into more of a rhythm and stroke. Pitchers get used on a regular basis and more get time, making your bullpen stonger and giving you extra starters come post season.

Others say its easier for hitters to focus on just a 3 game a week schedule.  If you don't feel up to par or you just have a bad week it's only 3 games not 5 or sometimes 6,7.  You only need 3 good starters and a good bullpen.  Work the pen correctly and you will have a 4th starter by the end of the year come post season play.

Now, I guess you can make an argument for either way.  You mention the injury bug and for sure the short week would help there.  I also think the weather is a big factor as far as stats.  More on the offensive side.

Personally somewhere in the middle of the two would probably be perfect.  Say 4 games a week for everyone from one set date to the other. That will never happen so I would have to lean to the Chapman schedule as being better.

Don't know if any of the selection commitees really care what us posters think.  If you have to lobby that hard for your guy he probably doesn't have the numbers to warrant an AA award anyway.  But I guess it never hurts to have a extra voice out there.  Now if you can get all the gurus like Jim, Pat and Ralph pushing for you it might help.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 21, 2008, 09:50:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 21, 2008, 08:48:52 PM

Posters should not have any impact on an All-American team. That's just misguided.

I don't think that posting has a huge effect on the voting (or any at all actually).  I just think that it helps to get peoples names out there.  and maybe I was just trying to rally the troops or new england posters to get out there and post more.  Things have actually really picked up in the new england posting area.  heck on February 14th 2007 (I looked up the day) I started this general new england thread because there really wasn't any activity on the boards overall.  Now the Harwich regional page from this year has 14 pages of posts.  that is cool.

Wow, I started a message board thread on Valentines Day, at 7:14 pm no less.  That is rough.

Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 21, 2008, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 21, 2008, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 21, 2008, 07:47:16 PM
3.  In this one I am coming after the New England posters here.  Get out there, talk about new england baseball.  I don't have time, or access to really determine this with facts but, I think you will notice that on national boards there are a lot more people posting and talking about kids from other regions.  I am guessing that a lot of people that vote read these boards.  Nothing wrong with talking guys up (facts based, not "this guy is nasty").  You get someone's name out there it may help (or not help, these are just theories) when it comes time for those voters to vote.   
Posters should not have any impact on an All-American team. That's just misguided.
I agree that "talking up" players is not a behavior that I want to encourage.

As for New England players getting their fair representation on the All-American teams,  I see that you got a representative from Trinity CT, Southern Maine, KSC, Curry and Wheaton MA.  That is five teams in four different conferences.  I think that the voters clearly looked that the performers across the region and tried to give a fair assessment of what that performance meant on a national basis.

I honestly believe that these sites will make fans more familiar with the quality teams, conferences and programs around the country.  I think that the "name programs" may be judged more critically, and the lesser known programs of quality will have a chance to gain the limelight.

As this site allows us to pick up video links, radio broadcasts and "live stats" more easily, the D3 baseball community will become more knowledgeable.  That had definitely become the case on the football and hoops sites and boards.

The momentum is building.  Let's watch it!   :)
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on May 22, 2008, 02:47:06 PM
Does anybody see any players coming out of New England that are going to be drafted come next week?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 22, 2008, 05:12:31 PM
NESCAC guys:  Kiely and Pinto have the best chance.  Pinto's success last summer in the NECBL will give him at least a shot of being picked up. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: YagsUMB on May 22, 2008, 08:51:47 PM
Kiely will go between the 30th and 50th round. I know thats a lot of room for error but that is directly from a scout's mouth in Harwich. His teammate SS Thomas DiBenedetto will get drafted because his father is a minority owner of the Red Sox and its been made clear that the plan is to draft him and give him a shot in the minors. RHP Chandler Bardnard might get a shot in the late rounds too. With the Red Sox ties with the Bantams, maybe they'll take a few Trinity players. Unlikely but possible.

LHP Chris Anderson, WNEC, has a shot to go in the late rounds. Scouts in Harwich were upset that the MLB scouting burrough hadn't found this kid until late in the season. He's 6'4" 215lbs with a 87-89mph fastball and good breaking stuff. Worth a late round pick.

OF Anthony D'Alfonso, Southern Maine, might get a sniff but he's only a JR and hitters in DIII won't go as JRs unless they are exceptional players. He's 6'5" 235lbs so he's got the size and power but another year will help his case. 1B Nate Nelson, Worcester State, is 6'5" 290lbs and can rip. It'll be interesting to see if he gets a shot.

I think RHP Nicky Conway, UMass Boston, has a shot to go in the late rounds too. I know the White Sox, Astros, and a few others have inquired. He can get outs and he's a ballsy competitor. He's a perfect middle reliever in the minors and could develop into a real tough pitcher out of the pen.

I'm sure there could be other surprises like Lavorgna was last year and Dzubia (Babson) was a few years back.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: EasternCtFan on May 22, 2008, 10:29:24 PM
I think we are throwing some of these names out there too lightly. Kiely will definitly go. If we are going to throw out names how about Melvin Castillo and Joe Esposito of Eastern. I like Conway he was a good college pitcher and realize he played for a bad team but I dont see him pitching minor league ball.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: YagsUMB on May 23, 2008, 01:12:58 AM
I don't believe Melvin Castillo is even draft eligible. He's only a sophomore. He is also going to be 24 years old in June. 2 months older than BJ Upton.

If scouts had a chance to look at Joe Esposito at his very best, there is no doubt in my mind that someone would take a chance on him. After his freshman year, we all thought he would be the next Joey Serfass and would automatically get drafted or signed by a big league team. Unfortunately, Coach Holowaty self-admittingly overused him while he had shoulder soreness his sophomore year. That seemed to ruin his JR year a little bit and he finally came back around this year to be the pitcher everyone expected him to be. I faced Joe when he was a freshman in the 1st game of a doubleheader. He was lights out. Serfass threw the next game, and wasn't as impressive although he still shut us down.  Serfass was a SR that year. Joe Esposito was done wrong by his coaching staff, in my opinion. It happens sometimes. That being said, when he is at full health he's as good as anyone in NE. He deserves a shot but health concerns might spoil it for him.

I don't think I threw anyone's name out there lightly. MLB teams have definitely inquired about Nick Conway if that is your argument. DiBenedetto will get drafted or signed by the Red Sox, TRUST ME!

Anderson is a work in progress and scouts who were there to see Kiely in Harwich were extremely impressed with his size and presence. D'Alfonso would be a reach this year but I stated that. Have you seen Nate Nelson? He can mash and has the size (6'5" 290lbs...with some agility) that is intriguing to teams. We'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 23, 2008, 08:25:56 AM
There are 50 rounds in the draft - anything is possible, there are countless players and in particular pitchers who can throw strikes, not give up the long ball, some teams can take a flyer on. Each team has 6-7 minor league affiliates they can filter them threw. Don't forget that we posteers on D3 have to consider the players in D1 & 2 as well. Juco players and high schoolers. Heck some teams don't even draft some players but have scouts talk to players about non-drafting invites to a camp/instructional league. The best thing you can do is sit back and enjoy the rumor mill about who is going to get drafted, and then wait and see how it plays out. There are scouts at all kinds of games, tourneys, and camps looking for that solid player and maybe a diamond in the rough. Just like the quote from that all-time baseball movie - "Angels in the Outfield" - "It could happen" - Anyone could get drafted. It's all about timing.

In NE .. we tend to fall in love with our players. But when you stack them up against the rest of D1, D2, Jucos, and high schoolers - they really have to be special.  I, too, think Esposito could help out some team. You can never have enough pitching. However, Nate Nelson may have an uphill climb because there are many big - power hitting first baseman out there. Unless they use him as a dh.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 23, 2008, 02:03:47 PM
Castillo being 24 has no impact on being draft eligible this year.  It just means that he would have been a draft eligible freshman.  It also means that teams are less likely to take a 24 year old than an 21 year old with similar abilities.  Agreed with DiBenedetto getting drafted somewhere, or at least given a shot.

Anderson should definitely get picked up.  Six foot six lefty.  Boom.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: YagsUMB on May 23, 2008, 03:36:01 PM
That was my point when I pointed out Castillo's age. I don't think he'll ever get drafted based on how old he is. Jeff Francoeur is 24.

I never realized that you could be drafted after you turn 21 regardless of your class in college. Good call.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on May 23, 2008, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: YagsUMB on May 23, 2008, 01:12:58 AM
I don't believe Melvin Castillo is even draft eligible. He's only a sophomore. He is also going to be 24 years old in June. 2 months older than BJ Upton.

If scouts had a chance to look at Joe Esposito at his very best, there is no doubt in my mind that someone would take a chance on him. After his freshman year, we all thought he would be the next Joey Serfass and would automatically get drafted or signed by a big league team. Unfortunately, Coach Holowaty self-admittingly overused him while he had shoulder soreness his sophomore year. That seemed to ruin his JR year a little bit and he finally came back around this year to be the pitcher everyone expected him to be. I faced Joe when he was a freshman in the 1st game of a doubleheader. He was lights out. Serfass threw the next game, and wasn't as impressive although he still shut us down.  Serfass was a SR that year. Joe Esposito was done wrong by his coaching staff, in my opinion. It happens sometimes. That being said, when he is at full health he's as good as anyone in NE. He deserves a shot but health concerns might spoil it for him.

I don't think I threw anyone's name out there lightly. MLB teams have definitely inquired about Nick Conway if that is your argument. DiBenedetto will get drafted or signed by the Red Sox, TRUST ME!

Anderson is a work in progress and scouts who were there to see Kiely in Harwich were extremely impressed with his size and presence. D'Alfonso would be a reach this year but I stated that. Have you seen Nate Nelson? He can mash and has the size (6'5" 290lbs...with some agility) that is intriguing to teams. We'll have to wait and see.

Yags, you might be mis-remembering that 05 season.  My guess is you were with part of that harem you had there in Boston the night before.

Serfass was done in 04.  It must have been DiPietro with Espo in 05.  DiPietro did go on to get drafted after his Jr year in 05 by the Royals....I think in the sixth round.  Boy I wish he was there with us in 06, might have been able to spend an extra day or two in Appleton.

You must have a good in with Coach H.  You might be mis-remembering again though or maybe Coach is.  Espo threw 36 innings in 06.  He work out of the pen a lot (16 APP) and had six starts.  Don't remember him having any shoulder problems ever.  His only problem the last three years  has been a wierd back thing that comes and go's.  Actually it flared up once this year for about a week and that was it.  In 06 and early 07 it was a continuing on and off problem.  SO I don't think you should be throwing the ECSU coaching staff under the bus as far as Espo is concerned.  I actually thought he had a chance for a huge 08 season and shot at big post season awards.  I hope he gets a shot at the next level.  Great kid.   
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: YagsUMB on May 23, 2008, 07:25:30 PM
Talked to Holowaty in Arizona last year, during a UMB game and after ECSU had just played. He told me that he shouldn't have used Espo as much the prior year. He said he would always ask him if he was completely healthy and, being a competitor, the kid would always say he was fine. Athletes do that. Holowaty told me he knew something was wrong and wished he had put him on the shelf. HOLOWATY, himself, told me he kicked himself in the ass after the season. Its not a big deal. It probably wasn't the first and won't be the last.

I have a decent repoire with Coach Holowaty, having been recruited by him and having played against him. I talk to him casually when I see him, but he never came to visit me in Boston for a night of debachery, if thats what you're implying.

I thought it was a shoulder but the back sounds right. Nevertheless, he overused him considering the injury. It happens man. Sometimes a coaching staff listens to a kid when they should go on the information given to them by other sources (Trainers, catchers, pitching coaches, etc.). Every long time coach has done it. I know you realize that.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 23, 2008, 10:16:33 PM
I really appreciate the fact that I can hear these games online, but if you are gonna send someone all the way to Wisconsin I would assume they would be slightly better than what Trin sent out there. 
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on May 24, 2008, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: YagsUMB on May 23, 2008, 07:25:30 PM

Sometimes a coaching staff listens to a kid when they should go on the information given to them by other sources (Trainers, catchers, pitching coaches, etc.). Every long time coach has done it. I know you realize that.

Your right on with that Yags.  Happens all to often I'm sure.  Coach probably would have enjoyed a visit to your harem up there in bean town.  That is if he didn't have the lovely wife Jan.  The women is a Saint.
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 29, 2008, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: Jcon8958 on May 22, 2008, 02:47:06 PM
Does anybody see any players coming out of New England that are going to be drafted come next week?

Baseball America rates Kiely as the 14th ranked prospect from lower New England (Connecticut & Rhode Island)
Even though me is from Mass, he is listed by where he attended college.  See below.  Some players had write ups about them (even some rated lower than Kiely) but he did not

NATIONAL TOP 200 PROSPECTS

1. Anthony Hewitt, ss/of, Salisbury (Conn.) School (National Rank: 41)
2. Ryan Westmoreland, of, Portsmouth (R.I.) HS (National Rank: 113)
3. Ryan Lavarnway, c/of, Yale (National Rank: 186)

OTHER PROSPECTS OF NOTE

4. Chris Dwyer, lhp, Salisbury (Conn.) School
5. Jason Esposito, 3b, Amity HS, Woodbridge, Conn.
6. Chris Gloor, lhp, Quinnipiac
7. Jim Fuller, lhp, Southern Connecticut State
8. Will Jolin, rhp, Guilford (Conn.) HS
9. George Springer, of, Avon (Conn.) Old Farms School
10. Brian Irving, rhp, Yale
11. David Erickson, rhp, Connecticut
13. Steve Gilman, rhp, Yale
14. Tim Kiely, rhp, Trinity (Conn.)
15. Brett Anderson, ss, Eastern HS, Bristol, Conn.
16. Erik Turgeon, rhp, Connecticut
17. Liam Ohlmann, rhp, Manchester (Conn.) JC
18. Anthony Meo, rhp, Cranston (R.I.) West HS
19. Matt Barnes, rhp, Bethel (Conn.) HS
20. Josh Cox, of, Yale
21. Mike Diaz, ss, Southern Connecticut State
22. Taylor Lewis, of, Montville (Conn.) HS
23. Zach Zaneski, c, Rhode Island
24. Matt Nuzzo, ss, Brown
25. Bill Perry, 3b, Hartford
26. Rob Hallberg, rhp, Brown
27. Pat Mahoney, c, Connecticut
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on June 04, 2008, 05:46:00 PM
How about Enman from Saint Joes?

Anyone going to take a flyer on the kid in the late rounds?
Title: Re: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on June 10, 2008, 06:43:16 PM
I am sure there will be more to come and I can't promise I didn't skip over one or two but here is a list of players listed on NECBL rosters for the summer of 2008.

Overall
15 of 22 are pitchers, not surprising
Eastern Connecticut (4) & Trinity (5) are well represented
More players than I expected from non New England Schools (5)

Danbury Westerners
Melvin Castillo--Shortstop--Sophomore--Eastern Connecticut
Vinny Ganz--Infield--Sophomore--William Patterson
Travis Ratliff--Pitcher--Freshman--Cortland State
Christopher Wojick--Pitcher--Freshman--Eastern Connecticut

Holyoke Blue Sox
Sean Kileen--Catcher/Infield--Junior--Trinity
James Wood--Outfield--Sophomore--Trinity
Andrew Zgrablich--Pitcher--Sophomore--Gordon

Keene Swamp Bats
David Colvin--Pitcher--Freshman--Pomona-Pitzer

Lowell All Americans   
Nicholas Pecora--SS/OF/1B--Junior--Wheaton
Conor Fahey--Pitcher--Junior--WPI
Matt Fontaine--Pitcher--Sophomore--Eastern Connecticut
Cory Moore--Pitcher--Sophomore--Curry

Manchester Silkworms
Ryan Piacentini--Infield--Junior--Trinity
Jeremiah Bayer--Pitcher--Junior--Trinity
James Kukucka--Pitcher--Junior--Eastern Connecticut
John Potrikus--Pitcher--Junior--Cortland State

Newport Gulls
None

North Adams SteepleCats
Daniel Benz--Pitcher--Junior--Williams

North Shore Navigators
Kent Graham--Infield/Outfield--Sophomore--Trinity
Wayde Kitchens--Pitcher--Junior--Chapman
Jimmy Lisowski--Pitcher--Junior--Springfield

Pittsfield Dukes
Louie Bernardini--Pitcher--Junior--Wheaton

Sanford Mariners
Mark Schmidt--Pitcher--Sophomore--Southern Maine

Torrington Twisters
None

Vermont Mountaineers
None
Title: 2008TrinityBaseball.com
Post by: NEbaseball06 on June 21, 2008, 12:31:28 AM
I was looking for some information from this past season and came across this site:  2008TrinityBaseball.com  which has an excellent YouTube video on it recapping the Bantams' season.  As a New Englander myself, it is great to see a NE team win the title again.

Great site & great slideshow on the homepage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJvcAFS_25w
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 05, 2009, 08:58:44 AM
Well teams are starting to pratice this past week, and i know its way early, but anyone want to weigh in on thier own preseason New England Poll.  Mine would look something like this
1. Trinity
2. Eastern CT
3. Southern Maine
4. Wheaton
5. KSC
6. WNEC
7. Williams
8. Roger Williams

My thoughts being that Trinity is defending National Champions, and are still #1 until someone proves otherwise, thier pitching is still very good. Eastern has the pitching and offense to be very good as does Southern Maine.  Wheaton is ranked nationally as well as Keene State.  After that, WNEC and Roger, and Williams are all teams that can get hot and rattle of a very good stretch of wins
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 05, 2009, 08:18:00 PM
KSCFan,

My only input would be that ECSU and USM will be flipped, as Sullen Maine were ranked higher in two national polls, and that they are returning most of last years starters.  All others seem reasonable.

However, IMO, the preseason polls, (mostly National ) are meaningless, other than as an ego booster for the ranked teams and thier fans.

My philosophy is pre/early season polls are nice, but year-end /final polls really tell the story. It is the W/L results/statistics, that separarate the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 06, 2009, 08:01:09 AM
ECSU alum i agree with your opinion on preseaon polls.  I am not a huge fan of them, but as work gets boring i try to find something to distract me. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 06, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on February 06, 2009, 08:01:09 AM
ECSU alum i agree with your opinion on preseaon polls.  I am not a huge fan of them, but as work gets boring i try to find something to distract me. 

KSCFan,

Just a 3 or so more weeks to go and we will be in full swing!!!!!!!

Keep us updated on the KSC Baseball field revamp.  That would be great for the team

Can't wait  ;D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on February 06, 2009, 07:50:42 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on February 05, 2009, 08:58:44 AM
Well teams are starting to pratice this past week, and i know its way early, but anyone want to weigh in on thier own preseason New England Poll.  Mine would look something like this
1. Trinity
2. Eastern CT
3. Southern Maine
4. Wheaton
5. KSC
6. WNEC
7. Williams
8. Roger Williams

My thoughts being that Trinity is defending National Champions, and are still #1 until someone proves otherwise, thier pitching is still very good. Eastern has the pitching and offense to be very good as does Southern Maine.  Wheaton is ranked nationally as well as Keene State.  After that, WNEC and Roger, and Williams are all teams that can get hot and rattle of a very good stretch of wins


Don't like the last 3 in your rankings, tbh.

WNEC lost a lot from their squad last season, including Schwamb and Anderson, their top hitter and pitcher, respectively. As for RW, they picked up a lot of wins over pretty weak teams, I don't see them duplicating their success from last year.

Williams, well, they only won 24 games last year, so I'd say there's a few teams who could be ranked ahead of them.

1. Trinity
2. Southern Maine
3. Eastern CT.
4. Wheaton
5. Keane State
6. Suffolk
7. St. Joe's (ME)
8. Williams

Suffolk should be strong again. Let's not forget they were ranked #3 in New England in the final regional rankings before the regional selections were made, and missed out mostly due to a numbers game. They swept USM in a double-header last year, and won a total of 29 games while having one of the strongest strength of schedules in the region. They graduated their #1 in Steve Durant and best hitter in Nick Martinho, but that team absolutely mashed last year, and should once again. They also have a ton of pitching depth, as they bring back all but 2 pitchers from 2008.

St. Joe's started off a bit slow but got hot at the right time, winning the GNAC tournament and making their 3rd straight regional. They absolutely deserve to be in the top 8, even if they lost their undisputed best player in Luke Enman. They returned basically their entire pitching staff, so I think they'll do some damage once again.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 07, 2009, 11:52:51 AM
Pre season picks

1. Trinity
2. Southern Maine
3. Wheaton
4. Eastern CT.
5. St. Joe's (ME)
6. Keene State
7. Suffolk
8. Williams

Don't think Trinity will be in the top five at the end of the year. No disrespect but they lost 31 wins on the mound.  Bayer is a talent for sure but he will be facing other teams number 1 this year. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DougiesGoinDeep on February 07, 2009, 03:24:35 PM
Don't sleep on how good Trinity's line up is this year. They got somewhat overshadowed last year because of the amazing pitching numbers their staff put up, but they return 4 first team All-New England hitters, far more than any other team, not to mention they hit 2 through 5 in the lineup. No one in New England has a 2-3-4-5 combo as good as Trinity, with a combined 33 HR's and 186 RBI returning. While all of the LEC teams will beat up on each other each weekend, Trinity will be fresh to make another run. Sorry to dissapoint folks, but its a 5 team race in New England this year, with Trinity USM ECSU KSC and Wheaton. These 5 teams are by far ahead of everyone else and it will be one of them representing New England in Wisconsin. I think this could be the year that we see one of these 5 shipped to the New York regional and actually win it and put two New England teams in Wisconsin. Can't wait for a great season.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 07, 2009, 04:58:37 PM
Quote from: DougiesGoinDeep on February 07, 2009, 03:24:35 PM
Don't sleep on how good Trinity's line up is this year. They got somewhat overshadowed last year because of the amazing pitching numbers their staff put up, but they return 4 first team All-New England hitters, far more than any other team, not to mention they hit 2 through 5 in the lineup. No one in New England has a 2-3-4-5 combo as good as Trinity, with a combined 33 HR's and 186 RBI returning. While all of the LEC teams will beat up on each other each weekend, Trinity will be fresh to make another run. Sorry to dissapoint folks, but its a 5 team race in New England this year, with Trinity USM ECSU KSC and Wheaton. These 5 teams are by far ahead of everyone else and it will be one of them representing New England in Wisconsin. I think this could be the year that we see one of these 5 shipped to the New York regional and actually win it and put two New England teams in Wisconsin. Can't wait for a great season.

Thats true their 2-5 could be the best in NE, but I'm sure ECSU and USM can match them.  Maine must even surpass them as far as those numbers go.  I just think losing that much pitching it is awful hard the next year.  I pull for Trinity when we don't play them, so I hope they have a good year.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: mans007 on February 08, 2009, 10:44:25 PM
Trinity does have a solid team coming back but they have to understand one MAJOR thing. After you win it, it get's much, much, harder. First off, your players think there awesome and they should, they won the title last year. Girls love them, there the kings of campus. Secondly, after you win it, everyone and there mother wants to beat you and see you be beaten. Trinity has never gone through it before so they don't know what s its like to have a target on there back.  Even if Trinity had everyone back, it would be soooooo hard to dominate like they did. #1 its so tough to be "as" motivated as before you won it. #2 everyone wants to kick your butt. Just some food for thought that I don't think many people put into the equation.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on February 09, 2009, 01:05:13 AM
Quote from: DougiesGoinDeep on February 07, 2009, 03:24:35 PM
Don't sleep on how good Trinity's line up is this year. They got somewhat overshadowed last year because of the amazing pitching numbers their staff put up, but they return 4 first team All-New England hitters, far more than any other team, not to mention they hit 2 through 5 in the lineup. No one in New England has a 2-3-4-5 combo as good as Trinity, with a combined 33 HR's and 186 RBI returning. While all of the LEC teams will beat up on each other each weekend, Trinity will be fresh to make another run. Sorry to dissapoint folks, but its a 5 team race in New England this year, with Trinity USM ECSU KSC and Wheaton. These 5 teams are by far ahead of everyone else and it will be one of them representing New England in Wisconsin. I think this could be the year that we see one of these 5 shipped to the New York regional and actually win it and put two New England teams in Wisconsin. Can't wait for a great season.


I am pretty sure USM can match trinity's 2-5 in the order...:)   #2 Chris Burleson  .383  9 HR 50 RBI,  #3 Ryan Pike  .362  10HR 33 RBI  #4 Anthony D'Alfonso.  .393   15HR   62 RBI  #5  Ryan Gaffney  .361  1HR 38 RBI...and we can go #6  Jordan Berthiaume.  .350  3HR 38 RBI...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on February 09, 2009, 08:16:50 AM
hockeyfan77...
Don't forget the lineup ECSU posted last year with Gilblair ...403 and 12 HR, Castillo .354 and 11 HR, and Parke, Dewing, Hobbes, and Bass all hitting ..350 or better.  Coupled with the speed of Parke, Castillo, and Cousineau... the pitching staff may have a lot of runs to play with.
But until Trinity proves last year was just something special... they won't forget how to win. Remember it was Bayer last year in the Trinity showdown with the Warriors who shut down that hit attack in Willimantic.
It was probably the worst game Eastern played last year. 
I think the addition of the transfer from UConn, Musson will only add to the mix of the ECSU lineup.
Defense will probably improve on the 48 + errors from the infield last year.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 09, 2009, 08:58:48 AM
The GNAC- You are right about St. Joes of Maine.  I did sleep on them, i would put them into my top 10 teams in NE if i could repick em.  However, it seems that St Joes always seems to do well in the regular season win thier bad conference and go 1-2 or 0-2 in the regionals.  That being said i have lots of respect for them, and thier program.  Good point on St Joes of Maine. 

On the Trinity aspect, i still think they are number 1 until someone proves otherwise.  Do i think they will repeat as National Champions?  Prob not, but there has not been a back to back in a long time.  Also i think that Hockeyfan hit it on the head that Southern Maines lineup just flat out rakes.  The difference between Trinity and Southern Maine last year was pitching.  I have never seen pitching like Trinity had last year.  They lost 31 wins on the mound but they still have some horses left to be there in the end.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on February 09, 2009, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on February 09, 2009, 08:16:50 AM
hockeyfan77...
Don't forget the lineup ECSU posted last year with Gilblair ...403 and 12 HR, Castillo .354 and 11 HR, and Parke, Dewing, Hobbes, and Bass all hitting ..350 or better.  Coupled with the speed of Parke, Castillo, and Cousineau... the pitching staff may have a lot of runs to play with.
But until Trinity proves last year was just something special... they won't forget how to win. Remember it was Bayer last year in the Trinity showdown with the Warriors who shut down that hit attack in Willimantic.
It was probably the worst game Eastern played last year. 
I think the addition of the transfer from UConn, Musson will only add to the mix of the ECSU lineup.
Defense will probably improve on the 48 + errors from the infield last year.




Oh, I wasn't forgetting about Eastern...From a USM point of view how can you...I was just pointing out that I don't think Trinity had the best 2-3-4-5 in the Northeast...I too would rank Trinity HITTING behind Eastern and USM...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 09, 2009, 05:26:24 PM
Quote from: mans007 on February 08, 2009, 10:44:25 PM
Trinity does have a solid team coming back but they have to understand one MAJOR thing. After you win it, it get's much, much, harder. First off, your players think there awesome and they should, they won the title last year. Girls love them, there the kings of campus. Secondly, after you win it, everyone and there mother wants to beat you and see you be beaten. Trinity has never gone through it before so they don't know what s its like to have a target on there back.  Even if Trinity had everyone back, it would be soooooo hard to dominate like they did. #1 its so tough to be "as" motivated as before you won it. #2 everyone wants to kick your butt. Just some food for thought that I don't think many people put into the equation.

Your right mans007, history shows just how hard it is to repeat.  The target will be there all year.  I'd like to know the history of teams that lost three starters that totaled 31 of their wins, what their record was the next year?  Thats just seems like a lot to replace.  Bayer can't pitch three times a week.  Now maybe they have some arms in the wings but thats a lot of talent.  Those three guys were special as a group last year.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: mans007 on February 09, 2009, 11:42:38 PM
Good responses all on the message board but I think you were misunderstanding my meaning.  Although Trinity dosn't play a tough schedule (in comparison to little east teams).  I am not talking about repeating, i'm talking about playing day in and day out in regular season. Those teams you'd walk through in past years won't be as easy to beat, no matter what the skill level is.  Trinity will now play teams who in the past may not have pitched there #1, 2 or 3, but now they may because to beat the defending national champ means more to there program then some conference games. I know it sounds crazy but it true. Even if they face a #5, 6, 7 on a staff, that kid pitching may pitch the game of his life now. I think trinity will face the toughest factor they have ever faced... expectation. Once you win it, you now know you should never lose. In a season, thats alot of weight to carry and it can be VERY draining.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 10, 2009, 09:43:38 AM
Any New England D3 players in a spring training this year?  I like going on the minor league baseball site and tracking thier progress.  I know that Fairchild from USM was in Double A last year, and Furbush from St. Joes did well last year.  I was just wondering about anyone else.  Any names to keep tab on would be great thanks
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 10, 2009, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on February 10, 2009, 09:43:38 AM
Any New England D3 players in a spring training this year?  I like going on the minor league baseball site and tracking thier progress.  I know that Fairchild from USM was in Double A last year, and Furbush from St. Joes did well last year.  I was just wondering about anyone else.  Any names to keep tab on would be great thanks

KSCFan,

Check "D-3 players in Minor Leagues/MLB" thread for a bunch of info from Oshdude/others
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 10, 2009, 12:51:57 PM
Thanks Alum, that is an interesting thread that i never knew about.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on February 12, 2009, 06:53:07 PM
TheGNAC's 2009 New England Region Preview

Hello everyone, it's that time again. Here are my 2009 rankings, with little write-ups for all the top 10 teams. This took a lot of effort and research, so all comments and critiques are welcomed.

1. Trinity - 45-1 - What are these guys going to do for an encore? Walk on water? The Bantams went 45-1 (!) in 2008, the greatest season in recorded collegiate baseball history. They won the NESCAC. They won the New England regional. They won the College World Series. Really, the only way they can improve upon 2008 is by finishing 46-0, and I don't see that happening. Still, they're the consensus #1 team in New England, and for good reason. Although they graduated 3 of their top 4 arms from last year, their offense is still one of the most formidable in New England, led by pre-season All-American C Sean Killeen and junior 1st baseman Kent Graham, who combined for 16 homers and 102 RBI in 2008. On the mound, the Bantams return Jeremiah Bayer, another pre-season All-American, who turned in an outstanding stat line of 9-0, 1.33 ERA, 71 K's in 81 innings pitched. I don't know if the Bantams will finish the year ranked 1st, but there's no other spot to put them right now.

2. Eastern Connecticut - 32-15-1 - The Evil Empire, as they've come to be known around these LEC-heavy parts, turned in a strong campaign in 2008, with a 32-15-1 mark and yet another trip to Harwich for the New England regionals. What is impressive about that feat however, is most of it was accomplished without the aid of Shawn Gilblair on the mound. The senior captain is already one of the most decorated players in Eastern's celebrated history, and is perhaps division III's premier two-way player. The lefthander did his usual damage at the plate, hitting .403 and belting 12 long balls to lead EConn's offense. Expect more of the same from Gilblair in 2009, as well as an impressive line on the mound. Aiding Gilblair on offense are SS Melvin Castillo, the 24 year old junior who can hit as well as anybody in New England, as well as co-captain 1B Tristan Hobbes, as steady as they came both at the plate and in the field. It should be interesting to see what happens with the pitching staff in 2009, as aside from Gilblair, there are a number of question marks. 9 game winner Jimmy Jagodzinski is reportedly gone (with eligibility remaining), as is Joe Esposito, plucked to the professional ranks. James Kukucka finished 2008 with a 6-1 mark in 47.1 innings, but I'm not sure he has the stuff to be the #2 EConn needs. Chris Wojick was a stud out of the bullpen last season, but it remains to be seen if he will make the transition to starting in 2009. Still, Eastern has the offense to hang with anybody, and if Coach Holywater (thanks word) can work his usual magic, expect EConn to find themselves playing for a regional title yet again in May.

3. Southern Maine - 36-14 I hesitated between putting USM 2nd and EConn 3rd, but in the end, Gilblair was the deciding factor. That's not to say USM doesn't have their own studs, of course. USM has yet to post their 2009 roster online, but the fact remains the majority of their contributors in 2008 were underclassmen, as the team went 36-14 en route to playing in the regional title game in May, before falling to eventual national champ Trinity. Southern Maine has perhaps the most potent offense in New England (and possibly the country), and any pitcher worth his salt will be having nightmares about pitching to the heart of their order. Anthony D'Alfonso is USM's most potent hitter, and the big man is going to have a tough time improving upon his 2008 totals, which saw him post .393, 15 HR, 62 RBI totals. Also back is Chris Burleson, one of the best players in the LEC since he arrived on campus in 2005. The IF/OF posted .383/9/50 totals in 08, and should once again do some serious damage with the stick in 09. It would take up much too much space to go through USM's lineup, as 1-9 they're as dangerous as any team in the country. What remains to be seen however is how they'll fair on the mound, as they don't have a clear-cut #1 stud like Trinity and Econn do. From my understanding, Collin Henry is their best bet in that regard, but in the end it might not matter, as USM managed 36 wins last year with a staff ERA og 5.13. They might just hit their way to Wisconsin.

4. Wheaton - 34-10 One of the lesser-talked about, yet always potent clubs in New England, Wheaton once again looks to be a contender in 2009. The boys from Norton, MA ran up an impressive 34-10 mark in 2008, and should be the team to beat in the NEWMAC once again. One of the least talked about, but perhaps most intriguing, storylines regarding the 2009 season is the return of Louie Bernardini to the Wheaton baseball team. Bernardini took a DNP in 2008, and is back for his final season of eligibility in 2009. The tall righthander is one of the best arms in Wheaton's short but prolific history, with a 14-6, 2.47 ERA in 171 career innings pitched. He's twice been named to the NEIBA All-Region team, and was named the NYCBL's Pitcher of the Year in the summer of 2006. Bernardini is on a short list of the top arms in the region, and his return should give Wheaton a much-needed boost on the mound. Also returning is All-American Adam Gingras, he of the 10-1, 2.09 career stat-line. Gingras was a perfect 8-0 on the bump in 2008, and has been named a D3Baseball.com pre-season All-American. Wheaton might have the region's best 1-2 punch, and as we all know, pitching wins championships. Throw in veteran arms like Nick Kostaras, Jared Barnes, and Josh Simmons, and you have one of the best pitching staffs in the country. I'm not sure if Wheaton has the offense to hang with the top teams in New England (Southern Maine's D'Alfonso almost out-homered their entire club in 2009), but when you can pitch and play defense like they can, it doesn't really matter. They're my dark horse selection to represent New England at the 2009 World Series.

5. Keene State - 34-11 I know this might make some of the KSC'ers upset, but I think this ranking is justified. The Owls have emerged as a powerhouse not only in the LEC but also in New England, making a trip to Harwich in May an annual rite of passage. Still, has their window to the World Series come and gone? With their losses on the mound, I fear it has. Look, the Owls can hang with anybody on offense, as they rival USM in that category. With hitters like Bobby Doyon (.408-6-50), Joe Rousseau (.405-0-35), and Beau Darak (.296-13-50) leading the way, expect some football-like scores to follow KSC in the box scores. They absolutely will hit the ball this season. The question is, will they pitch well? Gone is Jamie Morin, KSC's crafty southpaw. Too is enormous Phil Mabey, who, despite struggling in his final year at the swamp, now finds himself poised to sign a professional contract once he's through in the Arizona Winter League. Gone too is Greg Ford, one of the best two-way players in the LEC last year. Does Aaron Laplante (5-0, 2.77 ERA in 39 IP) have what it takes to be a #1 stud in the LEC? I'm not sure. Still, you can never count the Swampies out, and I fully expect them to once again make the trip to Harwich in May.

6. Suffolk - 29-12 As the name implies, I'm a GNAC guy. I see more games in this conference than any of the others. Still, I think this ranking is the absolute LOWEST the Rams should be, and I could definitely see them jumping into the top 4 come May. Keep in mind, Suffolk finished 2008 at 29-12 and was ranked #3 in New England in the final regional rankings before the selections were made, and if they hadn't imploded in the GNAC tournament against St. Joe's, they would have been in Harwich, too. The Rams return the majority of their record-setting squad from 2008 (they were the 1st and only team to ever run the table in the GNAC regular season, 12-0), although gone are #1 Steve Durant and perennial All New England selection Nick Martinho. Still, they have more than enough offense to hang with anybody in the region, led by junior captain Bobby Barrett (.363-3-28), SS Jose Alejandro (.333-0-26), and OF Keith Carter (.322-3-29). Suffolk also has the wheels to steal almost at will, as evidenced by their 86 stolen bags in 104 attempts last year. On the mound, Suffolk is led by 2nd team All New England selection Dan Delia (7-3, 1.68 ERA, 47 K in 64.1 IP). Also returning is senior left hander Reid Jackson, who has complied a 12-3 mark over the last 2 seasons, including wins over regional teams Southern Maine and Montclair State in 2008. Much like previous seasons, Suffolk will play one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the country, with Southern Maine, Eastern Connecticut, Trinity, Rowan, and Keystone all on the schedule before their spring trip is over. The Rams have a lot of depth both on the mound and in the field, and I expect them to regain their spot atop the GNAC once May rolls around.

7. St. Joe's (Maine) - 28-18 - The Monks made their inaugural season in the GNAC count, winning the conference tournament as a #4 seed and finding their way to Harwich yet again, for the 3rd year in a row. In 2009 though, I'm not sure that streak will continue. Gone is All-World shortstop Luke Enman, one of the premier players in the country and one of the best shortstops I've ever seen at the D-3 level. Enman finished his school-boy career as inarguably the best position player in SJC history, and if it weren't for a kid named Charlie Furbush (RHP Detroit Tigers), he'd be their best ball player, period. Enman went out in style in 2008, finishing with a .368-7-41 line, while playing near-flawless defense. Make no mistake, he was the straw that stirred the Monks offensive-drink, and his loss is pretty much irreplaceable. They'll certainly try, though, led by Ben Grant-Roy (.367-7-41). Seems every year somebody emerges from the 50 or so players coach Will Sanborn keeps around, and 2008 should be no different in that regard. It's a different story on the mound for the Monks though, as back is former Maine Blackbear Pat Moran, who posted an up-and-down 4-5, 3.88, 43 K's in 48 IP line in 2008. Moran's a 6'4 righthander, and perhaps the closest thing to a power pitcher in D-3, with a fastball in the upper 80's and a devastating curveball. Expect his 2nd year in the GNAC to be an easier transition. Also returning is LHP Andrew Keirstead, who emerged as the Monks certified Suffolk-killer in 2008, beating the Rams twice in 2 weeks to leave them home come regional selection time. Keirstead was 6-3 in 08 while leading the staff in innings pitched, and he should once again help anchor the Monks plentiful pitching staff.

8. Williams - 24-12 The Ephs had an interesting campaign in 2008, going 24-12 but missing the regional tournament despite many prognosticators having them pegged as shoe-ins after their March trip. Still, the Ephs graduated just 5 seniors last season, and many key players have returned. On the mound they're led by Dan Benz, who has been one of the best pitchers in New England over the last 2 seasons. In 2008, he compiled a 6-2, 3.36 ERA with 56 K's in 59 IP. Perhaps most impressively, he limited hitters to just a .198 BA last year. He's a #1 of the Gilblair-Bayer-Bernardini/Gingras scale. Also returning is Ben Horowitz, who trailed only Benz in IP in 2008. The Eph's don't pack the punch that much of the rest of this list does, as they managed just 11 long balls in 2008. Still, their .327 team batting average is nothing to scoff at, although the departures of Max Pinto and James DiCosmo will hurt the Ephs, as OF and 2nd baseman combined to hit .388 and .382 with 5 of the club's 11 home runs. Back is Al Matthews (.384-1-30), but after that, much is left to be desired.

In the mix: Tufts, Amherst, Western New England, Roger Williams, Worcester State, Babson

New England Pitcher of the Year: Jeremiah Bayer, Trinity
New England Player of the Year: Shawn Gilblair
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 12, 2009, 07:22:00 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on February 12, 2009, 06:53:07 PM
TheGNAC's 2009 New England Region Preview

Hello everyone, it's that time again. Here are my 2009 rankings, with little write-ups for all the top 10 teams. This took a lot of effort and research, so all comments and critiques are welcomed.

1. Trinity - 45-1 - What are these guys going to do for an encore? Walk on water? The Bantams went 45-1 (!) in 2008, the greatest season in recorded collegiate baseball history. They won the NESCAC. They won the New England regional. They won the College World Series. Really, the only way they can improve upon 2008 is by finishing 46-0, and I don't see that happening. Still, they're the consensus #1 team in New England, and for good reason. Although they graduated 3 of their top 4 arms from last year, their offense is still one of the most formidable in New England, led by pre-season All-American C Sean Killeen and junior 1st baseman Kent Graham, who combined for 16 homers and 102 RBI in 2008. On the mound, the Bantams return Jeremiah Bayer, another pre-season All-American, who turned in an outstanding stat line of 9-0, 1.33 ERA, 71 K's in 81 innings pitched. I don't know if the Bantams will finish the year ranked 1st, but there's no other spot to put them right now.

2. Eastern Connecticut - 32-15-1 - The Evil Empire, as they've come to be known around these LEC-heavy parts, turned in a strong campaign in 2008, with a 32-15-1 mark and yet another trip to Harwich for the New England regionals. What is impressive about that feat however, is most of it was accomplished without the aid of Shawn Gilblair on the mound. The senior captain is already one of the most decorated players in Eastern's celebrated history, and is perhaps division III's premier two-way player. The lefthander did his usual damage at the plate, hitting .403 and belting 12 long balls to lead EConn's offense. Expect more of the same from Gilblair in 2009, as well as an impressive line on the mound. Aiding Gilblair on offense are SS Melvin Castillo, the 24 year old junior who can hit as well as anybody in New England, as well as co-captain 1B Tristan Hobbes, as steady as they came both at the plate and in the field. It should be interesting to see what happens with the pitching staff in 2009, as aside from Gilblair, there are a number of question marks. 9 game winner Jimmy Jagodzinski is reportedly gone (with eligibility remaining), as is Joe Esposito, plucked to the professional ranks. James Kukucka finished 2008 with a 6-1 mark in 47.1 innings, but I'm not sure he has the stuff to be the #2 EConn needs. Chris Wojick was a stud out of the bullpen last season, but it remains to be seen if he will make the transition to starting in 2009. Still, Eastern has the offense to hang with anybody, and if Coach Holywater (thanks word) can work his usual magic, expect EConn to find themselves playing for a regional title yet again in May.

3. Southern Maine - 36-14 I hesitated between putting USM 2nd and EConn 3rd, but in the end, Gilblair was the deciding factor. That's not to say USM doesn't have their own studs, of course. USM has yet to post their 2009 roster online, but the fact remains the majority of their contributors in 2008 were underclassmen, as the team went 36-14 en route to playing in the regional title game in May, before falling to eventual national champ Trinity. Southern Maine has perhaps the most potent offense in New England (and possibly the country), and any pitcher worth his salt will be having nightmares about pitching to the heart of their order. Anthony D'Alfonso is USM's most potent hitter, and the big man is going to have a tough time improving upon his 2008 totals, which saw him post .393, 15 HR, 62 RBI totals. Also back is Chris Burleson, one of the best players in the LEC since he arrived on campus in 2005. The IF/OF posted .383/9/50 totals in 08, and should once again do some serious damage with the stick in 09. It would take up much too much space to go through USM's lineup, as 1-9 they're as dangerous as any team in the country. What remains to be seen however is how they'll fair on the mound, as they don't have a clear-cut #1 stud like Trinity and Econn do. From my understanding, Collin Henry is their best bet in that regard, but in the end it might not matter, as USM managed 36 wins last year with a staff ERA og 5.13. They might just hit their way to Wisconsin.

4. Wheaton - 34-10 One of the lesser-talked about, yet always potent clubs in New England, Wheaton once again looks to be a contender in 2009. The boys from Norton, MA ran up an impressive 34-10 mark in 2008, and should be the team to beat in the NEWMAC once again. One of the least talked about, but perhaps most intriguing, storylines regarding the 2009 season is the return of Louie Bernardini to the Wheaton baseball team. Bernardini took a DNP in 2008, and is back for his final season of eligibility in 2009. The tall righthander is one of the best arms in Wheaton's short but prolific history, with a 14-6, 2.47 ERA in 171 career innings pitched. He's twice been named to the NEIBA All-Region team, and was named the NYCBL's Pitcher of the Year in the summer of 2006. Bernardini is on a short list of the top arms in the region, and his return should give Wheaton a much-needed boost on the mound. Also returning is All-American Adam Gingras, he of the 10-1, 2.09 career stat-line. Gingras was a perfect 8-0 on the bump in 2008, and has been named a D3Baseball.com pre-season All-American. Wheaton might have the region's best 1-2 punch, and as we all know, pitching wins championships. Throw in veteran arms like Nick Kostaras, Jared Barnes, and Josh Simmons, and you have one of the best pitching staffs in the country. I'm not sure if Wheaton has the offense to hang with the top teams in New England (Southern Maine's D'Alfonso almost out-homered their entire club in 2009), but when you can pitch and play defense like they can, it doesn't really matter. They're my dark horse selection to represent New England at the 2009 World Series.

5. Keene State - 34-11 I know this might make some of the KSC'ers upset, but I think this ranking is justified. The Owls have emerged as a powerhouse not only in the LEC but also in New England, making a trip to Harwich in May an annual rite of passage. Still, has their window to the World Series come and gone? With their losses on the mound, I fear it has. Look, the Owls can hang with anybody on offense, as they rival USM in that category. With hitters like Bobby Doyon (.408-6-50), Joe Rousseau (.405-0-35), and Beau Darak (.296-13-50) leading the way, expect some football-like scores to follow KSC in the box scores. They absolutely will hit the ball this season. The question is, will they pitch well? Gone is Jamie Morin, KSC's crafty southpaw. Too is enormous Phil Mabey, who, despite struggling in his final year at the swamp, now finds himself poised to sign a professional contract once he's through in the Arizona Winter League. Gone too is Greg Ford, one of the best two-way players in the LEC last year. Does Aaron Laplante (5-0, 2.77 ERA in 39 IP) have what it takes to be a #1 stud in the LEC? I'm not sure. Still, you can never count the Swampies out, and I fully expect them to once again make the trip to Harwich in May.

6. Suffolk - 29-12 As the name implies, I'm a GNAC guy. I see more games in this conference than any of the others. Still, I think this ranking is the absolute LOWEST the Rams should be, and I could definitely see them jumping into the top 4 come May. Keep in mind, Suffolk finished 2008 at 29-12 and was ranked #3 in New England in the final regional rankings before the selections were made, and if they hadn't imploded in the GNAC tournament against St. Joe's, they would have been in Harwich, too. The Rams return the majority of their record-setting squad from 2008 (they were the 1st and only team to ever run the table in the GNAC regular season, 12-0), although gone are #1 Steve Durant and perennial All New England selection Nick Martinho. Still, they have more than enough offense to hang with anybody in the region, led by junior captain Bobby Barrett (.363-3-28), SS Jose Alejandro (.333-0-26), and OF Keith Carter (.322-3-29). Suffolk also has the wheels to steal almost at will, as evidenced by their 86 stolen bags in 104 attempts last year. On the mound, Suffolk is led by 2nd team All New England selection Dan Delia (7-3, 1.68 ERA, 47 K in 64.1 IP). Also returning is senior left hander Reid Jackson, who has complied a 12-3 mark over the last 2 seasons, including wins over regional teams Southern Maine and Montclair State in 2008. Much like previous seasons, Suffolk will play one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the country, with Southern Maine, Eastern Connecticut, Trinity, Rowan, and Keystone all on the schedule before their spring trip is over. The Rams have a lot of depth both on the mound and in the field, and I expect them to regain their spot atop the GNAC once May rolls around.

7. St. Joe's (Maine) - 28-18 - The Monks made their inaugural season in the GNAC count, winning the conference tournament as a #4 seed and finding their way to Harwich yet again, for the 3rd year in a row. In 2009 though, I'm not sure that streak will continue. Gone is All-World shortstop Luke Enman, one of the premier players in the country and one of the best shortstops I've ever seen at the D-3 level. Enman finished his school-boy career as inarguably the best position player in SJC history, and if it weren't for a kid named Charlie Furbush (RHP Detroit Tigers), he'd be their best ball player, period. Enman went out in style in 2008, finishing with a .368-7-41 line, while playing near-flawless defense. Make no mistake, he was the straw that stirred the Monks offensive-drink, and his loss is pretty much irreplaceable. They'll certainly try, though, led by Ben Grant-Roy (.367-7-41). Seems every year somebody emerges from the 50 or so players coach Will Sanborn keeps around, and 2008 should be no different in that regard. It's a different story on the mound for the Monks though, as back is former Maine Blackbear Pat Moran, who posted an up-and-down 4-5, 3.88, 43 K's in 48 IP line in 2008. Moran's a 6'4 righthander, and perhaps the closest thing to a power pitcher in D-3, with a fastball in the upper 80's and a devastating curveball. Expect his 2nd year in the GNAC to be an easier transition. Also returning is LHP Andrew Keirstead, who emerged as the Monks certified Suffolk-killer in 2008, beating the Rams twice in 2 weeks to leave them home come regional selection time. Keirstead was 6-3 in 08 while leading the staff in innings pitched, and he should once again help anchor the Monks plentiful pitching staff.

8. Williams - 24-12 The Ephs had an interesting campaign in 2008, going 24-12 but missing the regional tournament despite many prognosticators having them pegged as shoe-ins after their March trip. Still, the Ephs graduated just 5 seniors last season, and many key players have returned. On the mound they're led by Dan Benz, who has been one of the best pitchers in New England over the last 2 seasons. In 2008, he compiled a 6-2, 3.36 ERA with 56 K's in 59 IP. Perhaps most impressively, he limited hitters to just a .198 BA last year. He's a #1 of the Gilblair-Bayer-Bernardini/Gingras scale. Also returning is Ben Horowitz, who trailed only Benz in IP in 2008. The Eph's don't pack the punch that much of the rest of this list does, as they managed just 11 long balls in 2008. Still, their .327 team batting average is nothing to scoff at, although the departures of Max Pinto and James DiCosmo will hurt the Ephs, as OF and 2nd baseman combined to hit .388 and .382 with 5 of the club's 11 home runs. Back is Al Matthews (.384-1-30), but after that, much is left to be desired.

In the mix: Tufts, Amherst, Western New England, Roger Williams, Worcester State, Babson

New England Pitcher of the Year: Jeremiah Bayer, Trinity
New England Player of the Year: Shawn Gilblair

GNAC,

One of the best write-up so far this year!!!  NICE JOB!! and a +1 Karma for your efforts
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on February 12, 2009, 07:51:58 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on February 12, 2009, 07:22:00 PM

GNAC,

One of the best write-up so far this year!!!  NICE JOB!! and a +1 Karma for your efforts

Thanks a lot, it was fun. One thing's for sure; this season should be a fun one!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on February 12, 2009, 08:03:50 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on February 12, 2009, 06:53:07 PM
TheGNAC's 2009 New England Region Preview

Hello everyone, it's that time again. Here are my 2009 rankings, with little write-ups for all the top 10 teams. This took a lot of effort and research, so all comments and critiques are welcomed.

1. Trinity - 45-1 - What are these guys going to do for an encore? Walk on water? The Bantams went 45-1 (!) in 2008, the greatest season in recorded collegiate baseball history. They won the NESCAC. They won the New England regional. They won the College World Series. Really, the only way they can improve upon 2008 is by finishing 46-0, and I don't see that happening. Still, they're the consensus #1 team in New England, and for good reason. Although they graduated 3 of their top 4 arms from last year, their offense is still one of the most formidable in New England, led by pre-season All-American C Sean Killeen and junior 1st baseman Kent Graham, who combined for 16 homers and 102 RBI in 2008. On the mound, the Bantams return Jeremiah Bayer, another pre-season All-American, who turned in an outstanding stat line of 9-0, 1.33 ERA, 71 K's in 81 innings pitched. I don't know if the Bantams will finish the year ranked 1st, but there's no other spot to put them right now.

2. Eastern Connecticut - 32-15-1 - The Evil Empire, as they've come to be known around these LEC-heavy parts, turned in a strong campaign in 2008, with a 32-15-1 mark and yet another trip to Harwich for the New England regionals. What is impressive about that feat however, is most of it was accomplished without the aid of Shawn Gilblair on the mound. The senior captain is already one of the most decorated players in Eastern's celebrated history, and is perhaps division III's premier two-way player. The lefthander did his usual damage at the plate, hitting .403 and belting 12 long balls to lead EConn's offense. Expect more of the same from Gilblair in 2009, as well as an impressive line on the mound. Aiding Gilblair on offense are SS Melvin Castillo, the 24 year old junior who can hit as well as anybody in New England, as well as co-captain 1B Tristan Hobbes, as steady as they came both at the plate and in the field. It should be interesting to see what happens with the pitching staff in 2009, as aside from Gilblair, there are a number of question marks. 9 game winner Jimmy Jagodzinski is reportedly gone (with eligibility remaining), as is Joe Esposito, plucked to the professional ranks. James Kukucka finished 2008 with a 6-1 mark in 47.1 innings, but I'm not sure he has the stuff to be the #2 EConn needs. Chris Wojick was a stud out of the bullpen last season, but it remains to be seen if he will make the transition to starting in 2009. Still, Eastern has the offense to hang with anybody, and if Coach Holywater (thanks word) can work his usual magic, expect EConn to find themselves playing for a regional title yet again in May.

3. Southern Maine - 36-14 I hesitated between putting USM 2nd and EConn 3rd, but in the end, Gilblair was the deciding factor. That's not to say USM doesn't have their own studs, of course. USM has yet to post their 2009 roster online, but the fact remains the majority of their contributors in 2008 were underclassmen, as the team went 36-14 en route to playing in the regional title game in May, before falling to eventual national champ Trinity. Southern Maine has perhaps the most potent offense in New England (and possibly the country), and any pitcher worth his salt will be having nightmares about pitching to the heart of their order. Anthony D'Alfonso is USM's most potent hitter, and the big man is going to have a tough time improving upon his 2008 totals, which saw him post .393, 15 HR, 62 RBI totals. Also back is Chris Burleson, one of the best players in the LEC since he arrived on campus in 2005. The IF/OF posted .383/9/50 totals in 08, and should once again do some serious damage with the stick in 09. It would take up much too much space to go through USM's lineup, as 1-9 they're as dangerous as any team in the country. What remains to be seen however is how they'll fair on the mound, as they don't have a clear-cut #1 stud like Trinity and Econn do. From my understanding, Collin Henry is their best bet in that regard, but in the end it might not matter, as USM managed 36 wins last year with a staff ERA og 5.13. They might just hit their way to Wisconsin.

4. Wheaton - 34-10 One of the lesser-talked about, yet always potent clubs in New England, Wheaton once again looks to be a contender in 2009. The boys from Norton, MA ran up an impressive 34-10 mark in 2008, and should be the team to beat in the NEWMAC once again. One of the least talked about, but perhaps most intriguing, storylines regarding the 2009 season is the return of Louie Bernardini to the Wheaton baseball team. Bernardini took a DNP in 2008, and is back for his final season of eligibility in 2009. The tall righthander is one of the best arms in Wheaton's short but prolific history, with a 14-6, 2.47 ERA in 171 career innings pitched. He's twice been named to the NEIBA All-Region team, and was named the NYCBL's Pitcher of the Year in the summer of 2006. Bernardini is on a short list of the top arms in the region, and his return should give Wheaton a much-needed boost on the mound. Also returning is All-American Adam Gingras, he of the 10-1, 2.09 career stat-line. Gingras was a perfect 8-0 on the bump in 2008, and has been named a D3Baseball.com pre-season All-American. Wheaton might have the region's best 1-2 punch, and as we all know, pitching wins championships. Throw in veteran arms like Nick Kostaras, Jared Barnes, and Josh Simmons, and you have one of the best pitching staffs in the country. I'm not sure if Wheaton has the offense to hang with the top teams in New England (Southern Maine's D'Alfonso almost out-homered their entire club in 2009), but when you can pitch and play defense like they can, it doesn't really matter. They're my dark horse selection to represent New England at the 2009 World Series.

5. Keene State - 34-11 I know this might make some of the KSC'ers upset, but I think this ranking is justified. The Owls have emerged as a powerhouse not only in the LEC but also in New England, making a trip to Harwich in May an annual rite of passage. Still, has their window to the World Series come and gone? With their losses on the mound, I fear it has. Look, the Owls can hang with anybody on offense, as they rival USM in that category. With hitters like Bobby Doyon (.408-6-50), Joe Rousseau (.405-0-35), and Beau Darak (.296-13-50) leading the way, expect some football-like scores to follow KSC in the box scores. They absolutely will hit the ball this season. The question is, will they pitch well? Gone is Jamie Morin, KSC's crafty southpaw. Too is enormous Phil Mabey, who, despite struggling in his final year at the swamp, now finds himself poised to sign a professional contract once he's through in the Arizona Winter League. Gone too is Greg Ford, one of the best two-way players in the LEC last year. Does Aaron Laplante (5-0, 2.77 ERA in 39 IP) have what it takes to be a #1 stud in the LEC? I'm not sure. Still, you can never count the Swampies out, and I fully expect them to once again make the trip to Harwich in May.

6. Suffolk - 29-12 As the name implies, I'm a GNAC guy. I see more games in this conference than any of the others. Still, I think this ranking is the absolute LOWEST the Rams should be, and I could definitely see them jumping into the top 4 come May. Keep in mind, Suffolk finished 2008 at 29-12 and was ranked #3 in New England in the final regional rankings before the selections were made, and if they hadn't imploded in the GNAC tournament against St. Joe's, they would have been in Harwich, too. The Rams return the majority of their record-setting squad from 2008 (they were the 1st and only team to ever run the table in the GNAC regular season, 12-0), although gone are #1 Steve Durant and perennial All New England selection Nick Martinho. Still, they have more than enough offense to hang with anybody in the region, led by junior captain Bobby Barrett (.363-3-28), SS Jose Alejandro (.333-0-26), and OF Keith Carter (.322-3-29). Suffolk also has the wheels to steal almost at will, as evidenced by their 86 stolen bags in 104 attempts last year. On the mound, Suffolk is led by 2nd team All New England selection Dan Delia (7-3, 1.68 ERA, 47 K in 64.1 IP). Also returning is senior left hander Reid Jackson, who has complied a 12-3 mark over the last 2 seasons, including wins over regional teams Southern Maine and Montclair State in 2008. Much like previous seasons, Suffolk will play one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the country, with Southern Maine, Eastern Connecticut, Trinity, Rowan, and Keystone all on the schedule before their spring trip is over. The Rams have a lot of depth both on the mound and in the field, and I expect them to regain their spot atop the GNAC once May rolls around.

7. St. Joe's (Maine) - 28-18 - The Monks made their inaugural season in the GNAC count, winning the conference tournament as a #4 seed and finding their way to Harwich yet again, for the 3rd year in a row. In 2009 though, I'm not sure that streak will continue. Gone is All-World shortstop Luke Enman, one of the premier players in the country and one of the best shortstops I've ever seen at the D-3 level. Enman finished his school-boy career as inarguably the best position player in SJC history, and if it weren't for a kid named Charlie Furbush (RHP Detroit Tigers), he'd be their best ball player, period. Enman went out in style in 2008, finishing with a .368-7-41 line, while playing near-flawless defense. Make no mistake, he was the straw that stirred the Monks offensive-drink, and his loss is pretty much irreplaceable. They'll certainly try, though, led by Ben Grant-Roy (.367-7-41). Seems every year somebody emerges from the 50 or so players coach Will Sanborn keeps around, and 2008 should be no different in that regard. It's a different story on the mound for the Monks though, as back is former Maine Blackbear Pat Moran, who posted an up-and-down 4-5, 3.88, 43 K's in 48 IP line in 2008. Moran's a 6'4 righthander, and perhaps the closest thing to a power pitcher in D-3, with a fastball in the upper 80's and a devastating curveball. Expect his 2nd year in the GNAC to be an easier transition. Also returning is LHP Andrew Keirstead, who emerged as the Monks certified Suffolk-killer in 2008, beating the Rams twice in 2 weeks to leave them home come regional selection time. Keirstead was 6-3 in 08 while leading the staff in innings pitched, and he should once again help anchor the Monks plentiful pitching staff.

8. Williams - 24-12 The Ephs had an interesting campaign in 2008, going 24-12 but missing the regional tournament despite many prognosticators having them pegged as shoe-ins after their March trip. Still, the Ephs graduated just 5 seniors last season, and many key players have returned. On the mound they're led by Dan Benz, who has been one of the best pitchers in New England over the last 2 seasons. In 2008, he compiled a 6-2, 3.36 ERA with 56 K's in 59 IP. Perhaps most impressively, he limited hitters to just a .198 BA last year. He's a #1 of the Gilblair-Bayer-Bernardini/Gingras scale. Also returning is Ben Horowitz, who trailed only Benz in IP in 2008. The Eph's don't pack the punch that much of the rest of this list does, as they managed just 11 long balls in 2008. Still, their .327 team batting average is nothing to scoff at, although the departures of Max Pinto and James DiCosmo will hurt the Ephs, as OF and 2nd baseman combined to hit .388 and .382 with 5 of the club's 11 home runs. Back is Al Matthews (.384-1-30), but after that, much is left to be desired.

In the mix: Tufts, Amherst, Western New England, Roger Williams, Worcester State, Babson

New England Pitcher of the Year: Jeremiah Bayer, Trinity
New England Player of the Year: Shawn Gilblair


Great write up...Just one little thing I think Mark Schmidt will be USM #1 this year...Herny will be #2 and T. Therrian will be #3...Also long as they stay healthy they should be fine at the top of the rotation...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on February 12, 2009, 08:10:49 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on February 12, 2009, 08:03:50 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on February 12, 2009, 06:53:07 PM
TheGNAC's 2009 New England Region Preview

Hello everyone, it's that time again. Here are my 2009 rankings, with little write-ups for all the top 10 teams. This took a lot of effort and research, so all comments and critiques are welcomed.

1. Trinity - 45-1 - What are these guys going to do for an encore? Walk on water? The Bantams went 45-1 (!) in 2008, the greatest season in recorded collegiate baseball history. They won the NESCAC. They won the New England regional. They won the College World Series. Really, the only way they can improve upon 2008 is by finishing 46-0, and I don't see that happening. Still, they're the consensus #1 team in New England, and for good reason. Although they graduated 3 of their top 4 arms from last year, their offense is still one of the most formidable in New England, led by pre-season All-American C Sean Killeen and junior 1st baseman Kent Graham, who combined for 16 homers and 102 RBI in 2008. On the mound, the Bantams return Jeremiah Bayer, another pre-season All-American, who turned in an outstanding stat line of 9-0, 1.33 ERA, 71 K's in 81 innings pitched. I don't know if the Bantams will finish the year ranked 1st, but there's no other spot to put them right now.

2. Eastern Connecticut - 32-15-1 - The Evil Empire, as they've come to be known around these LEC-heavy parts, turned in a strong campaign in 2008, with a 32-15-1 mark and yet another trip to Harwich for the New England regionals. What is impressive about that feat however, is most of it was accomplished without the aid of Shawn Gilblair on the mound. The senior captain is already one of the most decorated players in Eastern's celebrated history, and is perhaps division III's premier two-way player. The lefthander did his usual damage at the plate, hitting .403 and belting 12 long balls to lead EConn's offense. Expect more of the same from Gilblair in 2009, as well as an impressive line on the mound. Aiding Gilblair on offense are SS Melvin Castillo, the 24 year old junior who can hit as well as anybody in New England, as well as co-captain 1B Tristan Hobbes, as steady as they came both at the plate and in the field. It should be interesting to see what happens with the pitching staff in 2009, as aside from Gilblair, there are a number of question marks. 9 game winner Jimmy Jagodzinski is reportedly gone (with eligibility remaining), as is Joe Esposito, plucked to the professional ranks. James Kukucka finished 2008 with a 6-1 mark in 47.1 innings, but I'm not sure he has the stuff to be the #2 EConn needs. Chris Wojick was a stud out of the bullpen last season, but it remains to be seen if he will make the transition to starting in 2009. Still, Eastern has the offense to hang with anybody, and if Coach Holywater (thanks word) can work his usual magic, expect EConn to find themselves playing for a regional title yet again in May.

3. Southern Maine - 36-14 I hesitated between putting USM 2nd and EConn 3rd, but in the end, Gilblair was the deciding factor. That's not to say USM doesn't have their own studs, of course. USM has yet to post their 2009 roster online, but the fact remains the majority of their contributors in 2008 were underclassmen, as the team went 36-14 en route to playing in the regional title game in May, before falling to eventual national champ Trinity. Southern Maine has perhaps the most potent offense in New England (and possibly the country), and any pitcher worth his salt will be having nightmares about pitching to the heart of their order. Anthony D'Alfonso is USM's most potent hitter, and the big man is going to have a tough time improving upon his 2008 totals, which saw him post .393, 15 HR, 62 RBI totals. Also back is Chris Burleson, one of the best players in the LEC since he arrived on campus in 2005. The IF/OF posted .383/9/50 totals in 08, and should once again do some serious damage with the stick in 09. It would take up much too much space to go through USM's lineup, as 1-9 they're as dangerous as any team in the country. What remains to be seen however is how they'll fair on the mound, as they don't have a clear-cut #1 stud like Trinity and Econn do. From my understanding, Collin Henry is their best bet in that regard, but in the end it might not matter, as USM managed 36 wins last year with a staff ERA og 5.13. They might just hit their way to Wisconsin.

4. Wheaton - 34-10 One of the lesser-talked about, yet always potent clubs in New England, Wheaton once again looks to be a contender in 2009. The boys from Norton, MA ran up an impressive 34-10 mark in 2008, and should be the team to beat in the NEWMAC once again. One of the least talked about, but perhaps most intriguing, storylines regarding the 2009 season is the return of Louie Bernardini to the Wheaton baseball team. Bernardini took a DNP in 2008, and is back for his final season of eligibility in 2009. The tall righthander is one of the best arms in Wheaton's short but prolific history, with a 14-6, 2.47 ERA in 171 career innings pitched. He's twice been named to the NEIBA All-Region team, and was named the NYCBL's Pitcher of the Year in the summer of 2006. Bernardini is on a short list of the top arms in the region, and his return should give Wheaton a much-needed boost on the mound. Also returning is All-American Adam Gingras, he of the 10-1, 2.09 career stat-line. Gingras was a perfect 8-0 on the bump in 2008, and has been named a D3Baseball.com pre-season All-American. Wheaton might have the region's best 1-2 punch, and as we all know, pitching wins championships. Throw in veteran arms like Nick Kostaras, Jared Barnes, and Josh Simmons, and you have one of the best pitching staffs in the country. I'm not sure if Wheaton has the offense to hang with the top teams in New England (Southern Maine's D'Alfonso almost out-homered their entire club in 2009), but when you can pitch and play defense like they can, it doesn't really matter. They're my dark horse selection to represent New England at the 2009 World Series.

5. Keene State - 34-11 I know this might make some of the KSC'ers upset, but I think this ranking is justified. The Owls have emerged as a powerhouse not only in the LEC but also in New England, making a trip to Harwich in May an annual rite of passage. Still, has their window to the World Series come and gone? With their losses on the mound, I fear it has. Look, the Owls can hang with anybody on offense, as they rival USM in that category. With hitters like Bobby Doyon (.408-6-50), Joe Rousseau (.405-0-35), and Beau Darak (.296-13-50) leading the way, expect some football-like scores to follow KSC in the box scores. They absolutely will hit the ball this season. The question is, will they pitch well? Gone is Jamie Morin, KSC's crafty southpaw. Too is enormous Phil Mabey, who, despite struggling in his final year at the swamp, now finds himself poised to sign a professional contract once he's through in the Arizona Winter League. Gone too is Greg Ford, one of the best two-way players in the LEC last year. Does Aaron Laplante (5-0, 2.77 ERA in 39 IP) have what it takes to be a #1 stud in the LEC? I'm not sure. Still, you can never count the Swampies out, and I fully expect them to once again make the trip to Harwich in May.

6. Suffolk - 29-12 As the name implies, I'm a GNAC guy. I see more games in this conference than any of the others. Still, I think this ranking is the absolute LOWEST the Rams should be, and I could definitely see them jumping into the top 4 come May. Keep in mind, Suffolk finished 2008 at 29-12 and was ranked #3 in New England in the final regional rankings before the selections were made, and if they hadn't imploded in the GNAC tournament against St. Joe's, they would have been in Harwich, too. The Rams return the majority of their record-setting squad from 2008 (they were the 1st and only team to ever run the table in the GNAC regular season, 12-0), although gone are #1 Steve Durant and perennial All New England selection Nick Martinho. Still, they have more than enough offense to hang with anybody in the region, led by junior captain Bobby Barrett (.363-3-28), SS Jose Alejandro (.333-0-26), and OF Keith Carter (.322-3-29). Suffolk also has the wheels to steal almost at will, as evidenced by their 86 stolen bags in 104 attempts last year. On the mound, Suffolk is led by 2nd team All New England selection Dan Delia (7-3, 1.68 ERA, 47 K in 64.1 IP). Also returning is senior left hander Reid Jackson, who has complied a 12-3 mark over the last 2 seasons, including wins over regional teams Southern Maine and Montclair State in 2008. Much like previous seasons, Suffolk will play one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the country, with Southern Maine, Eastern Connecticut, Trinity, Rowan, and Keystone all on the schedule before their spring trip is over. The Rams have a lot of depth both on the mound and in the field, and I expect them to regain their spot atop the GNAC once May rolls around.

7. St. Joe's (Maine) - 28-18 - The Monks made their inaugural season in the GNAC count, winning the conference tournament as a #4 seed and finding their way to Harwich yet again, for the 3rd year in a row. In 2009 though, I'm not sure that streak will continue. Gone is All-World shortstop Luke Enman, one of the premier players in the country and one of the best shortstops I've ever seen at the D-3 level. Enman finished his school-boy career as inarguably the best position player in SJC history, and if it weren't for a kid named Charlie Furbush (RHP Detroit Tigers), he'd be their best ball player, period. Enman went out in style in 2008, finishing with a .368-7-41 line, while playing near-flawless defense. Make no mistake, he was the straw that stirred the Monks offensive-drink, and his loss is pretty much irreplaceable. They'll certainly try, though, led by Ben Grant-Roy (.367-7-41). Seems every year somebody emerges from the 50 or so players coach Will Sanborn keeps around, and 2008 should be no different in that regard. It's a different story on the mound for the Monks though, as back is former Maine Blackbear Pat Moran, who posted an up-and-down 4-5, 3.88, 43 K's in 48 IP line in 2008. Moran's a 6'4 righthander, and perhaps the closest thing to a power pitcher in D-3, with a fastball in the upper 80's and a devastating curveball. Expect his 2nd year in the GNAC to be an easier transition. Also returning is LHP Andrew Keirstead, who emerged as the Monks certified Suffolk-killer in 2008, beating the Rams twice in 2 weeks to leave them home come regional selection time. Keirstead was 6-3 in 08 while leading the staff in innings pitched, and he should once again help anchor the Monks plentiful pitching staff.

8. Williams - 24-12 The Ephs had an interesting campaign in 2008, going 24-12 but missing the regional tournament despite many prognosticators having them pegged as shoe-ins after their March trip. Still, the Ephs graduated just 5 seniors last season, and many key players have returned. On the mound they're led by Dan Benz, who has been one of the best pitchers in New England over the last 2 seasons. In 2008, he compiled a 6-2, 3.36 ERA with 56 K's in 59 IP. Perhaps most impressively, he limited hitters to just a .198 BA last year. He's a #1 of the Gilblair-Bayer-Bernardini/Gingras scale. Also returning is Ben Horowitz, who trailed only Benz in IP in 2008. The Eph's don't pack the punch that much of the rest of this list does, as they managed just 11 long balls in 2008. Still, their .327 team batting average is nothing to scoff at, although the departures of Max Pinto and James DiCosmo will hurt the Ephs, as OF and 2nd baseman combined to hit .388 and .382 with 5 of the club's 11 home runs. Back is Al Matthews (.384-1-30), but after that, much is left to be desired.

In the mix: Tufts, Amherst, Western New England, Roger Williams, Worcester State, Babson

New England Pitcher of the Year: Jeremiah Bayer, Trinity
New England Player of the Year: Shawn Gilblair


Great write up...Just one little thing I think Mark Schmidt will be USM #1 this year...Herny will be #2 and T. Therrian will be #3...Also long as they stay healthy they should be fine at the top of the rotation...

Thanks, not sure how I overlooked Schmidt, he put up some pretty gaudy numbers last year. 51 K's in 65 IP is pretty impressive. Should be interesting nonetheless to see how USM's pitching does this season; if they can pitch well, look out.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on February 12, 2009, 08:20:38 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on February 12, 2009, 08:10:49 PM
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TheGNAC's 2009 New England Region Preview

Hello everyone, it's that time again. Here are my 2009 rankings, with little write-ups for all the top 10 teams. This took a lot of effort and research, so all comments and critiques are welcomed.

1. Trinity - 45-1 - What are these guys going to do for an encore? Walk on water? The Bantams went 45-1 (!) in 2008, the greatest season in recorded collegiate baseball history. They won the NESCAC. They won the New England regional. They won the College World Series. Really, the only way they can improve upon 2008 is by finishing 46-0, and I don't see that happening. Still, they're the consensus #1 team in New England, and for good reason. Although they graduated 3 of their top 4 arms from last year, their offense is still one of the most formidable in New England, led by pre-season All-American C Sean Killeen and junior 1st baseman Kent Graham, who combined for 16 homers and 102 RBI in 2008. On the mound, the Bantams return Jeremiah Bayer, another pre-season All-American, who turned in an outstanding stat line of 9-0, 1.33 ERA, 71 K's in 81 innings pitched. I don't know if the Bantams will finish the year ranked 1st, but there's no other spot to put them right now.

2. Eastern Connecticut - 32-15-1 - The Evil Empire, as they've come to be known around these LEC-heavy parts, turned in a strong campaign in 2008, with a 32-15-1 mark and yet another trip to Harwich for the New England regionals. What is impressive about that feat however, is most of it was accomplished without the aid of Shawn Gilblair on the mound. The senior captain is already one of the most decorated players in Eastern's celebrated history, and is perhaps division III's premier two-way player. The lefthander did his usual damage at the plate, hitting .403 and belting 12 long balls to lead EConn's offense. Expect more of the same from Gilblair in 2009, as well as an impressive line on the mound. Aiding Gilblair on offense are SS Melvin Castillo, the 24 year old junior who can hit as well as anybody in New England, as well as co-captain 1B Tristan Hobbes, as steady as they came both at the plate and in the field. It should be interesting to see what happens with the pitching staff in 2009, as aside from Gilblair, there are a number of question marks. 9 game winner Jimmy Jagodzinski is reportedly gone (with eligibility remaining), as is Joe Esposito, plucked to the professional ranks. James Kukucka finished 2008 with a 6-1 mark in 47.1 innings, but I'm not sure he has the stuff to be the #2 EConn needs. Chris Wojick was a stud out of the bullpen last season, but it remains to be seen if he will make the transition to starting in 2009. Still, Eastern has the offense to hang with anybody, and if Coach Holywater (thanks word) can work his usual magic, expect EConn to find themselves playing for a regional title yet again in May.

3. Southern Maine - 36-14 I hesitated between putting USM 2nd and EConn 3rd, but in the end, Gilblair was the deciding factor. That's not to say USM doesn't have their own studs, of course. USM has yet to post their 2009 roster online, but the fact remains the majority of their contributors in 2008 were underclassmen, as the team went 36-14 en route to playing in the regional title game in May, before falling to eventual national champ Trinity. Southern Maine has perhaps the most potent offense in New England (and possibly the country), and any pitcher worth his salt will be having nightmares about pitching to the heart of their order. Anthony D'Alfonso is USM's most potent hitter, and the big man is going to have a tough time improving upon his 2008 totals, which saw him post .393, 15 HR, 62 RBI totals. Also back is Chris Burleson, one of the best players in the LEC since he arrived on campus in 2005. The IF/OF posted .383/9/50 totals in 08, and should once again do some serious damage with the stick in 09. It would take up much too much space to go through USM's lineup, as 1-9 they're as dangerous as any team in the country. What remains to be seen however is how they'll fair on the mound, as they don't have a clear-cut #1 stud like Trinity and Econn do. From my understanding, Collin Henry is their best bet in that regard, but in the end it might not matter, as USM managed 36 wins last year with a staff ERA og 5.13. They might just hit their way to Wisconsin.

4. Wheaton - 34-10 One of the lesser-talked about, yet always potent clubs in New England, Wheaton once again looks to be a contender in 2009. The boys from Norton, MA ran up an impressive 34-10 mark in 2008, and should be the team to beat in the NEWMAC once again. One of the least talked about, but perhaps most intriguing, storylines regarding the 2009 season is the return of Louie Bernardini to the Wheaton baseball team. Bernardini took a DNP in 2008, and is back for his final season of eligibility in 2009. The tall righthander is one of the best arms in Wheaton's short but prolific history, with a 14-6, 2.47 ERA in 171 career innings pitched. He's twice been named to the NEIBA All-Region team, and was named the NYCBL's Pitcher of the Year in the summer of 2006. Bernardini is on a short list of the top arms in the region, and his return should give Wheaton a much-needed boost on the mound. Also returning is All-American Adam Gingras, he of the 10-1, 2.09 career stat-line. Gingras was a perfect 8-0 on the bump in 2008, and has been named a D3Baseball.com pre-season All-American. Wheaton might have the region's best 1-2 punch, and as we all know, pitching wins championships. Throw in veteran arms like Nick Kostaras, Jared Barnes, and Josh Simmons, and you have one of the best pitching staffs in the country. I'm not sure if Wheaton has the offense to hang with the top teams in New England (Southern Maine's D'Alfonso almost out-homered their entire club in 2009), but when you can pitch and play defense like they can, it doesn't really matter. They're my dark horse selection to represent New England at the 2009 World Series.

5. Keene State - 34-11 I know this might make some of the KSC'ers upset, but I think this ranking is justified. The Owls have emerged as a powerhouse not only in the LEC but also in New England, making a trip to Harwich in May an annual rite of passage. Still, has their window to the World Series come and gone? With their losses on the mound, I fear it has. Look, the Owls can hang with anybody on offense, as they rival USM in that category. With hitters like Bobby Doyon (.408-6-50), Joe Rousseau (.405-0-35), and Beau Darak (.296-13-50) leading the way, expect some football-like scores to follow KSC in the box scores. They absolutely will hit the ball this season. The question is, will they pitch well? Gone is Jamie Morin, KSC's crafty southpaw. Too is enormous Phil Mabey, who, despite struggling in his final year at the swamp, now finds himself poised to sign a professional contract once he's through in the Arizona Winter League. Gone too is Greg Ford, one of the best two-way players in the LEC last year. Does Aaron Laplante (5-0, 2.77 ERA in 39 IP) have what it takes to be a #1 stud in the LEC? I'm not sure. Still, you can never count the Swampies out, and I fully expect them to once again make the trip to Harwich in May.

6. Suffolk - 29-12 As the name implies, I'm a GNAC guy. I see more games in this conference than any of the others. Still, I think this ranking is the absolute LOWEST the Rams should be, and I could definitely see them jumping into the top 4 come May. Keep in mind, Suffolk finished 2008 at 29-12 and was ranked #3 in New England in the final regional rankings before the selections were made, and if they hadn't imploded in the GNAC tournament against St. Joe's, they would have been in Harwich, too. The Rams return the majority of their record-setting squad from 2008 (they were the 1st and only team to ever run the table in the GNAC regular season, 12-0), although gone are #1 Steve Durant and perennial All New England selection Nick Martinho. Still, they have more than enough offense to hang with anybody in the region, led by junior captain Bobby Barrett (.363-3-28), SS Jose Alejandro (.333-0-26), and OF Keith Carter (.322-3-29). Suffolk also has the wheels to steal almost at will, as evidenced by their 86 stolen bags in 104 attempts last year. On the mound, Suffolk is led by 2nd team All New England selection Dan Delia (7-3, 1.68 ERA, 47 K in 64.1 IP). Also returning is senior left hander Reid Jackson, who has complied a 12-3 mark over the last 2 seasons, including wins over regional teams Southern Maine and Montclair State in 2008. Much like previous seasons, Suffolk will play one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the country, with Southern Maine, Eastern Connecticut, Trinity, Rowan, and Keystone all on the schedule before their spring trip is over. The Rams have a lot of depth both on the mound and in the field, and I expect them to regain their spot atop the GNAC once May rolls around.

7. St. Joe's (Maine) - 28-18 - The Monks made their inaugural season in the GNAC count, winning the conference tournament as a #4 seed and finding their way to Harwich yet again, for the 3rd year in a row. In 2009 though, I'm not sure that streak will continue. Gone is All-World shortstop Luke Enman, one of the premier players in the country and one of the best shortstops I've ever seen at the D-3 level. Enman finished his school-boy career as inarguably the best position player in SJC history, and if it weren't for a kid named Charlie Furbush (RHP Detroit Tigers), he'd be their best ball player, period. Enman went out in style in 2008, finishing with a .368-7-41 line, while playing near-flawless defense. Make no mistake, he was the straw that stirred the Monks offensive-drink, and his loss is pretty much irreplaceable. They'll certainly try, though, led by Ben Grant-Roy (.367-7-41). Seems every year somebody emerges from the 50 or so players coach Will Sanborn keeps around, and 2008 should be no different in that regard. It's a different story on the mound for the Monks though, as back is former Maine Blackbear Pat Moran, who posted an up-and-down 4-5, 3.88, 43 K's in 48 IP line in 2008. Moran's a 6'4 righthander, and perhaps the closest thing to a power pitcher in D-3, with a fastball in the upper 80's and a devastating curveball. Expect his 2nd year in the GNAC to be an easier transition. Also returning is LHP Andrew Keirstead, who emerged as the Monks certified Suffolk-killer in 2008, beating the Rams twice in 2 weeks to leave them home come regional selection time. Keirstead was 6-3 in 08 while leading the staff in innings pitched, and he should once again help anchor the Monks plentiful pitching staff.

8. Williams - 24-12 The Ephs had an interesting campaign in 2008, going 24-12 but missing the regional tournament despite many prognosticators having them pegged as shoe-ins after their March trip. Still, the Ephs graduated just 5 seniors last season, and many key players have returned. On the mound they're led by Dan Benz, who has been one of the best pitchers in New England over the last 2 seasons. In 2008, he compiled a 6-2, 3.36 ERA with 56 K's in 59 IP. Perhaps most impressively, he limited hitters to just a .198 BA last year. He's a #1 of the Gilblair-Bayer-Bernardini/Gingras scale. Also returning is Ben Horowitz, who trailed only Benz in IP in 2008. The Eph's don't pack the punch that much of the rest of this list does, as they managed just 11 long balls in 2008. Still, their .327 team batting average is nothing to scoff at, although the departures of Max Pinto and James DiCosmo will hurt the Ephs, as OF and 2nd baseman combined to hit .388 and .382 with 5 of the club's 11 home runs. Back is Al Matthews (.384-1-30), but after that, much is left to be desired.

In the mix: Tufts, Amherst, Western New England, Roger Williams, Worcester State, Babson

New England Pitcher of the Year: Jeremiah Bayer, Trinity
New England Player of the Year: Shawn Gilblair


Great write up...Just one little thing I think Mark Schmidt will be USM #1 this year...Herny will be #2 and T. Therrian will be #3...Also long as they stay healthy they should be fine at the top of the rotation...

Thanks, not sure how I overlooked Schmidt, he put up some pretty gaudy numbers last year. 51 K's in 65 IP is pretty impressive. Should be interesting nonetheless to see how USM's pitching does this season; if they can pitch well, look out.


I know how you overlooked him: that's a lot of work!!!! Good writing and your points are IMO pretty dead on...Yes , if USM can avoid injuries to their arms the could be downright scary...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on February 12, 2009, 08:21:14 PM
GNAC,

We're not worthy
We're not worthy
We're not worthy

What a great write-up. Thank you.


Word

PS Keith Patnode a recent transfer to KSC may well be an impact player at the plate.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 13, 2009, 08:38:20 AM
Gnac- amazing write up, awesome job some serious thought and hard work went into that.  I felt that your ranking were right on as well.  I agree with where you placed the swampies.  One thing though Rousseau graduated last year and now is a Nashua NH police officer.  But, that being said great stuff, espically enjoyed the Wheaton write up. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on February 13, 2009, 11:02:48 AM
GNAC
I thought I was reading sports illustrated.com for a moment. Good insight on each team. I particuarly liked your assessment of Eastern Conn. A few things you might be on the lookout for is - how Tingley will respond to off-season surgery, what impact the UConn transfer, Musson will have, and how Fontaine follows up last year leading the LEC in strikeouts and games started while filling in for Gilblair. I think Wojick will remain in the pen. Kukucka does have the stuff. Those 47.1 innings were deceiving. Those were tough innings. When you get a look at Eastern's top four pitchers, Gilblair, Kukucka, Musson, and Fontaine, you will think that they are on loan from the football team. A surprise will be Dutton, a "crafty" lefty, possibly out of the pen and maybe an occasional long relief/spot weekday start.

GNAC ... will there be a weekly update?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on February 13, 2009, 04:35:10 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on February 12, 2009, 08:21:14 PM


PS Keith Patnode a recent transfer to KSC may well be an impact player at the plate.
He may be the bat in the middle of the lineup that makes them have to pitch to Chevy, Doyon and Darak.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on February 13, 2009, 07:24:23 PM
GNAC
wow! terrific analysis. very in depth, very insightful. Lot of effort and research, I would certainly agree. you must have been working on this since the end of last season. 
Great job, bring on the season, it should be fun
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 13, 2009, 08:23:10 PM
Ok...I'll be the bad guy......no thats a real nice bit of work.

But.....you think Keene is going to Harwich (ECSU)? That kinda means they will beat USM and/or ECSU this year again, as a minimum they would have to win the LEC tourney and that would still get the shipped to NY regional.  That is if ECSU wins the regular season or at least top two.  ECSU has been shipped to NY two of the last three years for regionals.  If they have a normal ECSU year I don't see them getting shipped out this year.  Even if you win the LEC tourney from the two or three spot doesn't mean you stay in region but I think they get a break this year being the host site.  Although this year who would want to be in this regional....lets see.....Wheaton, USM, Keene, ECSU, Trinity, ST. Joe....tough stuff there.  Seems if you go to NY most years you have to beat Cortland.  NE has 4 or 5 Cortlands.  Not to disrespect the NY teams but they seem to disrespect themselves at times.  Could be interesting at the end of the year.

So who will be in the NE regional at ECSU in May?  Thats enough, my finger is getting tired.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: mans007 on February 14, 2009, 01:27:58 AM
Good post.  It will be tough to ship out the host of the regional because even though DIII is not a money making sport, they will gain more financially by having ecsu in it even as a 4-6 seed.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on February 14, 2009, 06:13:17 AM
mansoo7
You're absolutely on target about ecsu being shipped to Auburn during this economic time. If the NCAA has to pay for the travel of Eastern to Auburn or to have them stay in Willimantic - hard choice ? I think not.
However......... we are getting WAY ahead of ourselves. Let's just start by playing one game first.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on February 15, 2009, 11:00:35 PM
Thought I'd check out the early season schedules for the top New England teams and highlight some matchups.

Thoughts on these games?

Saturday, March 7 - Eastern Connecticut vs. Suffolk in Farmingdale, NY - Gonna be a cold one, as my #2 and #6 ranked teams face off at SUNY-Farmingdale.

Sunday, March 8 - Southern Maine vs. Suffolk in Farmingdale, NY - Suffolk swept USM in an early season matchup in 2008, but USM has returned the majority of their horses from last year. Tough two draws to open the year for Suffolk, in cold weather no less.

Monday, March 9 & Tuesday, March 10 - Wheaton vs. The College of New Jersey in Phoenix, AZ - TCNJ was a top-ranked club for much of 2008, finishing in the top 25 with a 30-12 overall record. On back-to-back days, they'll take on the perennial NEWMAC powerhouse. Should be two well-played games.

Friday, March 13 - Wheaton vs. Johns Hopkins in Phoenix, AZ - Wheaton was the national runners-up in 2006. Johns Hopkins now holds that dubious title for 2008. Should be an excellent game.

Saturday, March 14 - Keene State vs. TCNJ in Phoenix, AZ- Keene opens their season with 2 games against TCNJ in Arizona. A tough test for the Owls right out of the gate, and doesn't get any easier two days later, either.

Sunday, March 15 - Suffolk vs. Rowan in Lake Myrtle, FLA - Rowan was a 30 win team in 2008, and look to be strong once again this season, even after losing all-world pitcher Ryan Kulik. Suffolk should have its hands full with the boys from Jersey.

Monday, March 16 - Keene State vs. Johns Hopkins in Phoenix, AZ - KSC doesn't have it any easier in their 5th game of the year, as they take on the boys from JHU.

Thursday, March 19 - Southern Maine vs. Johns Hopkins in Phoenix, AZ - Two national powerhouses face off in an early season tilt in Phoenix. Should be a good one, as both teams have national title hopes for 2009.

Friday, March 20 - Eastern Connecticut vs. Johns Hopkins in Phoenix, AZ - The national runners-up didn't fare well against New England's #1 ranked club in the 2008 World Series, I wonder how they'll do against the 2nd best team New England has to offer?

Saturday, March 21 - Suffolk vs. Trinity in Lake Myrtle, FLA - The national champions end their spring trip with a tilt against Suffolk before flying north. The spring schedule is fairly light for the Bantams, and Suffolk should be their toughest test. Don't be surprised if they return home undefeated for the second straight season.

Should be an interesting, action-packed start to the season.

Any thoughts?




Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DIII Dad on February 16, 2009, 11:44:31 AM
First off let me say TheGNAC your write ups are great! It looks like the best teams around here are playing some tough early sason games. Good way to see what you have. I follow Wheaton(MA) and was just wondering if any body knows anything about the other teams on there Az. trip as far as good competition goes.
7-Mar Sat RIT (NY)
8-Mar Sun Saint John's (MN)
9-Mar Mon The College of New Jersey
10-Mar Tue The College of New Jersey
10-Mar Tue Rockford (IL)
12-Mar Thu Saint Cloud State (MN)
13-Mar Fri Johns Hopkins (MD)
14-Mar Sat Western New England
15-Mar Sun William Paterson (NJ)
15-Mar Sun Roger Williams

Thanks in advance for any insight I can get.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 16, 2009, 11:52:22 AM
D3dad The college of New Jersey will be a very good match for wheaton as they are always a very strong team. William Patterson traditionally is a 20 win team at least.  I know that Keene State usually plays them down in Arizona and most times than not its a battle to the last inning.  They play in the NJAC i think it is, the same one with COllege of New Jersey which is a very strong conference.  That should be a good couple of games.  Hopkins national runner up last year should tell you that they are pretty good. Thats about as much as i know
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dchevy5 on February 16, 2009, 03:53:32 PM
Regarding the Arizona schedule for Keene State,  interesting that we start with 2 against TCNJ and play Johns Hopkins on day 3 (game 5).  That is exactly the same as last year.  Both teams will be out for revenge as KSC went 3-0.  They beat TCNJ on KSC's first day outside (it was TCNJ's final day of their trip).
Played 2 NINE inning games and KSC won both by one run, the second game going 11 innings.  What a way to start a season!  Then 2 days later, KSC beat Johns Hopkins, also by one run, 9-8.  After 3 days, Keene was 4-1 with 3 victories against top 10 teams (at the time).  It will be difficult to repeat that this year, but, it will be fun.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DIII Dad on February 16, 2009, 04:23:19 PM
Thanks KSCfan. I knew about TCNJ and Hopkins as far as how good the games could be. I should have put in my post I was talking more about the teams in bold lettering. Sorry I didn't clarify that :P
Thanks again.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 16, 2009, 04:34:11 PM
Quote from: DIII Dad on February 16, 2009, 11:44:31 AM
First off let me say TheGNAC your write ups are great! It looks like the best teams around here are playing some tough early sason games. Good way to see what you have. I follow Wheaton(MA) and was just wondering if any body knows anything about the other teams on there Az. trip as far as good competition goes.
7-Mar Sat RIT (NY)
8-Mar Sun Saint John's (MN)
9-Mar Mon The College of New Jersey
10-Mar Tue The College of New Jersey
10-Mar Tue Rockford (IL)
12-Mar Thu Saint Cloud State (MN)
13-Mar Fri Johns Hopkins (MD)
14-Mar Sat Western New England
15-Mar Sun William Paterson (NJ)
15-Mar Sun Roger Williams

Thanks in advance for any insight I can get.

RIT 2008 stats:

2008 RIT Baseball
Overall Statistics for RIT (as of May 10, 2008)
(All games Sorted by Batting avg)

Record: 22-14   Home: 11-4   Away: 8-6   Neutral: 3-4   Empire 8: 11-5



Player                 AVG  GP-GS    AB   R   H  2B  3B  HR RBI   TB  SLG%  BB HBP  SO GDP   OB%  SF  SH  SB-ATT   PO   A   E  FLD%

18 Geoff Dornes.....  .386  36-36   132  40  51   9   1   5  37   77  .583  18   3  21   2  .462   3   0   5-5     50  12   1  .984
14 Ryan Tryt........  .376  29-26    93  21  35   9   4   3  29   61  .656  12   5  16   2  .460   3   0   1-1     54   3   2  .966
8 Jeremy Tosh......  .369  36-36   122  28  45   8   0   3  30   62  .508  25   5  26   3  .490   1   0   8-8    101  89   7  .964
5 Matt George......  .367  36-36   120  48  44   5   0   0  15   49  .408  26   6  13   2  .500   0   3  23-26    17  69   9  .905
11 Matt Austin......  .314  21-15    51  12  16   2   2   0  10   22  .431   9   2  10   0  .422   2   2   3-4    133   4   2  .986
26 Anthony Culotta..  .309  33-32    97  24  30   2   0   1  20   35  .361  24   2  10   2  .444   3   2   6-10    64   4   3  .958
10 Ed Hughes........  .306  28-20    72  13  22   2   0   1  11   27  .375   8   4   8   0  .405   0   3   5-5     40  59   8  .925
13 Justin Smith.....  .302  25-21    63  14  19   1   1   0  12   22  .349   7   1  14   0  .380   0   1   3-4     43  37   4  .952
19 John Robertson...  .289  26-25    76  13  22   3   0   0  14   25  .329  10   1  14   1  .371   2   0   2-3     41   1   1  .977
52 Raffaele Parisi..  .276  26-21    76  12  21   5   0   0  15   26  .342   6   5  18   0  .368   0   0   3-3     90   4   3  .969
15 Dave Kernan......  .230  24-17    61   7  14   3   1   3   9   28  .459   6   3  12   0  .324   1   0   0-0     71   7   3  .963
12 Ryan Campbell....  .227  28-19    75  10  17   3   0   0   6   20  .267   4   1  12   0  .272   1   1   3-3     33   0   0 1.000
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4 Steve Cline......  .308  11-1     13   3   4   1   0   0   2    5  .385   1   0   2   0  .357   0   0   0-0      1   1   0 1.000
16 Josh Rodems......  .281  17-11    32   7   9   4   0   0   3   13  .406   4   1  10   0  .378   0   0   0-0     36   8   0 1.000
27 Kyle Desrosiers..  .261  19-4     23   8   6   0   1   0   2    8  .348   5   3   4   1  .438   1   1   0-0     19  14   2  .943
6 Jeff Bibbens.....  .250   3-1      4   1   1   1   0   0   0    2  .500   0   0   3   0  .250   0   0   0-0      1   7   0 1.000
2 Chris Brol.......  .250   6-0      4   0   1   0   0   0   0    1  .250   1   0   1   0  .400   0   0   0-0      6   0   0 1.000
3 Mike Marsillo....  .000   4-0      1   1   0   0   0   0   1    0  .000   2   0   1   0  .667   0   0   0-0      6   7   0 1.000
9 Thomas Piscitell.  .000   1-0      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      0   0   0  .000
21 Cory Langtry.....  .000   2-1      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      2   8   0 1.000
31 Paul Schoeneck...  .000   1-0      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      4   4   0 1.000
23 Joel Walker......  .000   1-0      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      0   0   0  .000
...................  .000   1-1      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      0   0   0  .000
7 Ed McKenna.......  .000   1-0      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   1   0   0   0 1.000   0   0   0-0      0   2   0 1.000

Totals..............  .320  36-36  1115 262 357  58  10  16 216  483  .433 169  42 195  13  .423  17  13  62-72   813 348  48  .960
Opponents...........  .290  36-36  1081 204 314  76  10  15 183  455  .421 112  43 155  13  .376  13  13  44-53   805 324  54  .954

LOB - Team (289), Opp (246). DPs turned - Team (25), Opp (21). CI - Team (1), Kernan 1. Picked off - Robertson 1, Dornes 1,
Culotta 1.

(All games Sorted by Earned run avg)

Player                 ERA   W-L   APP  GS  CG SHO/CBO SV    IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  2B  3B  HR   AB B/Avg   WP HBP  BK  SFA SHA

3 Mike Marsillo....  2.17   5-3    16   4   3   0/0    2  45.2  36  18  11   7  30   7   1   1  169  .213    2   9   0    2   0
18 Geoff Dornes.....  2.82   3-2     9   7   3   1/0    0  51.0  53  24  16   4  27   8   4   1  193  .275    2   4   0    4   2
1 Rory Camardello..  3.29   1-0     9   0   0   0/0    0  13.2  15  10   5   7   7   4   0   1   52  .288    4   2   0    0   3
21 Cory Langtry.....  5.86   7-3    11   9   2   0/0    0  55.1  61  38  36  31  37  17   1   0  191  .319    6   8   0    1   1
31 Paul Schoeneck...  6.29   2-0    13   2   0   0/0    0  24.1  39  20  17   4   9  15   0   3  100  .390    1   1   0    2   1
6 Jeff Bibbens.....  7.62   3-3    10   9   1   0/0    0  39.0  50  35  33  22  26   7   3   6  158  .316    1   8   0    1   3
23 Joel Walker......  7.84   0-0     4   0   0   0/0    0  10.1  13  11   9   6   6   4   0   2   32  .406    2   5   1    1   0
9 Thomas Piscitell.  9.00   0-0     7   0   0   0/0    0   6.0   8   6   6   5   6   2   0   0   21  .381    1   0   0    0   0
20 Chris Miller.....  9.39   1-2     6   4   0   0/0    0  23.0  35  31  24  21   6   9   1   1   99  .354    2   3   0    2   2
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26 Anthony Culotta.. 20.25   0-1     2   1   0   0/0    0   2.2   4  11   6   5   1   0   0   0    7  .571    0   3   0    0   0

Totals..............  5.41  22-14   36  36   9   1/0    2 271.0 314 204 163 112 155  73  10  15 1022  .307   21  43   1   13  12
Opponents...........  6.88  14-22   36  36   7   3/1    2 268.1 358 262 205 170 197  55  10  13 1038  .345   21  42   3   17  13

Check thier web site for returning players and 2008 seniors
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 16, 2009, 04:47:08 PM
St. Cloud State, a D-II school, located in Minnesota usually played thier early games at the Metrodome, for obvious reasons

2008 stats are incomplete off thier web site, but 2008 press guide shows record or 16-29 in 2007

Looks like they are an average/below average D-II team
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 16, 2009, 04:55:16 PM
Roger Williams , from my experience is a reasonably good D-III team, but nothing outstanding.

Maybe someone knowlegable of Commonwealth Coast Conference can comment

last years CCC Preseason poll/stats:

2008 TCCC PRESEASON BASEBALL POLL

TEAM POINTS (1st Place votes)
Curry 138 (8)
Western New England 125 (4)
Salve Regina 125
Roger Williams 110
Endicott 90
Colby-Sawyer 85
Wentworth 63
Eastern Nazarene 61
Nichols 60
Gordon 39
New England College 28
Anna Maria 12


Roger Williams University
Overall Statistics for Roger Williams (as of May 15, 2008)
(All games Sorted by Batting avg)

Record: 34-12   Home: 18-2   Away: 9-5   Neutral: 7-5   TCCC: 20-2


Player                 AVG  GP-GS    AB   R   H  2B  3B  HR RBI   TB  SLG%  BB HBP  SO GDP   OB%  SF  SH  SB-ATT   PO   A   E  FLD%

18 Jamie Dahill.....  .393  46-46   163  43  64  15   1   4  32   93  .571  19   2  10   3  .455   3   0   9-9     88   0   2  .978
17 Alex Perry.......  .368  45-44   136  31  50  11   1   7  38   84  .618  20   2  11   3  .444   4   1   3-3    319  25   2  .994
27 Kevin Simpson....  .351  46-46   148  41  52  10   2   7  38   87  .588  13   9  23   2  .428   3   3  11-12    29  76  10  .913
2 Bill Lambert.....  .333  46-46   168  36  56   8   0   1  23   67  .399  10   3  14   3  .373   4   5   8-12    79 115   5  .975
8 Tony Verrochi....  .324  45-45   148  37  48   8   1   3  22   67  .453  22  13  23   3  .451   1   0  14-17    95   1   1  .990
5 Grant Bolin......  .291  43-43   127  29  37   6   0   5  15   58  .457  11   3  32   0  .359   1   4   7-8     49  97  16  .901
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19 Dan Roberge......  .500   9-7      2   0   1   1   0   0   2    2 1.000   0   0   1   0  .500   0   0   0-0      3  13   1  .941
1 Seth Fiero.......  .429   6-0      7   0   3   0   0   0   3    3  .429   0   0   1   0  .429   0   0   0-0      3   0   0 1.000
10 Chris Meier......  .400   4-0      5   0   2   0   0   0   1    2  .400   0   0   2   0  .400   0   0   0-0      1   0   0 1.000
24 Zach Porter......  .337  37-32   104  17  35   8   0   7  31   64  .615   4   2  25   2  .369   1   0   0-1     15   7   6  .786
3 Matt Berte.......  .308  25-13    52   7  16   5   0   0  11   21  .404   7   1   9   2  .400   0   0   0-1      2   0   1  .667
29 Billy Dunn.......  .267  28-12    45  10  12   3   0   2  10   21  .467   3   1  14   0  .327   0   0   1-1     36   3   1  .975
6 Ryan MacCarthy...  .255  42-40   106  19  27   5   0   0  10   32  .302  19   2  23   0  .378   0   0   0-2    189  16   3  .986
13 Andrew Haycock...  .246  24-17    57   8  14   2   2   1  14   23  .404   4   2  16   0  .317   0   1   1-1      7   0   0 1.000
7 Tim Atwood.......  .246  37-17    57  16  14   2   0   0   7   16  .281  10   0  15   0  .358   0   2   4-5     22   2   3  .889
12 Riley Kingery....  .235  11-5     17   2   4   1   0   1   4    8  .471   2   0   5   1  .300   1   0   0-0      5   0   0 1.000
44 Justin Reyes.....  .219  19-7     32   6   7   2   0   0   3    9  .281   2   2   7   1  .306   0   0   2-2     64   2   0 1.000
4 Chris Ziakas.....  .000  11-1      8   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   1   0   4   1  .111   0   0   1-1      1   1   1  .667
25 John Bobrowiecki.  .000   4-0      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      1   0   0 1.000
23 Eric Brown.......  .000  10-1      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      0   2   0 1.000
22 Sam Podbelski....  .000   8-6      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      5   6   1  .917
26 Greg Sousa.......  .000  12-0      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      0   2   0 1.000
20 Mike Malcolm.....  .000   9-7      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      0   9   0 1.000
16 P.J. Gouthro.....  .000   7-5      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      1   9   2  .833
11 James Lydon......  .000  10-8      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      7   7   0 1.000
14 Brian Hurld......  .000   9-9      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      3  12   0 1.000
28 Sean Donovan.....  .000  13-0      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      3   4   0 1.000
9 Ryan Willette....  .000   8-0      0   0   0   0   0   0   0    0  .000   0   0   0   0  .000   0   0   0-0      0   1   0 1.000

Totals..............  .320  46-46  1382 302 442  87   7  38 264  657  .475 147  42 235  21  .397  18  16  61-75  1027 410  55  .963
Opponents...........  .259  46-46  1330 197 345  57  14  16 170  478  .359 126  28 254  21  .333  14  20  55-62   987 407  66  .955

LOB - Team (316), Opp (294). DPs turned - Team (24), Opp (27). IBB - Team (3), Simpson 2, Perry 1, Opp (3). Picked off -
Perry 2, Bolin 2, Simpson 2, Dahill 2, Verrochi 2, Porter 1, MacCarthy 1, Lambert 1.

(All games Sorted by Earned run avg)

Player                 ERA   W-L   APP  GS  CG SHO/CBO SV    IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  2B  3B  HR   AB B/Avg   WP HBP  BK  SFA SHA

20 Mike Malcolm.....  2.68   7-0     9   7   1   0/0    0  43.2  33  15  13  23  30   2   1   0  159  .208    2   0   1    1   1
14 Brian Hurld......  2.68   7-2     9   9   4   2/1    0  53.2  52  18  16   6  41   8   1   1  211  .246    2   2   0    1   3
17 Alex Perry.......  3.00   2-0     4   3   0   0/1    0  15.0  11   5   5   5  18   3   1   0   55  .200    2   2   0    1   0
19 Dan Roberge......  3.18   4-2     9   7   3   1/0    0  45.1  33  19  16  22  33   7   0   1  163  .202    4   4   0    1   2
29 Billy Dunn.......  3.78   0-1    14   0   0   0/1   10  16.2   9   8   7   8  17   2   0   0   56  .161    1   1   0    0   0
22 Sam Podbelski....  4.46   5-0     8   6   0   0/0    0  38.1  46  28  19  13  17   4   2   2  157  .293    5   5   0    3   2
11 James Lydon......  4.47   6-0    10   8   3   0/0    0  52.1  54  32  26  15  37  11   4   4  208  .260    6   2   0    2   3
28 Sean Donovan.....  4.71   1-2    13   0   0   0/0    0  21.0  19  12  11  12  19   2   2   1   78  .244    2   3   0    1   3
16 P.J. Gouthro.....  7.58   2-4     7   5   0   0/0    0  29.2  45  29  25  10  19   9   3   3  123  .366    2   2   0    3   5
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9 Ryan Willette....  5.68   0-0     8   0   0   0/0    0   6.1   9   4   4   2   2   1   0   2   25  .360    0   2   0    0   0
26 Greg Sousa.......  6.48   0-1    12   0   0   0/1    0   8.1   9   7   6   4   9   2   0   1   35  .257    0   2   0    0   0
23 Eric Brown....... 11.25   0-0    10   1   0   0/0    0   8.0  17  14  10   4   6   5   0   0   40  .425    1   1   0    0   1
25 John Bobrowiecki. 13.50   0-0     4   0   0   0/1    0   2.2   6   4   4   0   6   1   0   1   14  .429    1   1   0    0   0
27 Kevin Simpson.... 13.50   0-0     2   0   0   0/0    0   1.1   2   2   2   2   0   0   0   0    6  .333    0   1   0    1   0

Totals..............  4.31  34-12   46  46  11   5/2   10 342.1 345 197 164 126 254  57  14  16 1330  .259   28  28   1   14  20
Opponents...........  6.29  12-34   46  46   9   0/0    3 329.0 442 302 230 147 235  87   7  38 1382  .320   32  42   9   18  16


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DIII Dad on February 16, 2009, 10:29:16 PM
Thanks ECSUalum. I've looked at some of the stats from those schools, but sometimes they can be a little decieving. Just thought I could get a little more insight.
Was looking at the schedule for the Russmatt Baseball 2009
Greater Phoenix Invitational and seems to be attracting more and more good teams. There should be some great games. Unfortunately I can't get to Az.
Does anyone know if there is going to be anyway to track the games as far as score updates or do we have to wait till there over and check the schools web site?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DIII Dad on February 16, 2009, 10:35:32 PM
May have just answered my own question. I just noticed the Teamline link on the home page for the Az. Invitational. Is that going to be for all games or just certain schools?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on February 17, 2009, 02:55:32 AM
Quote from: DIII Dad on February 16, 2009, 11:44:31 AM
First off let me say TheGNAC your write ups are great! It looks like the best teams around here are playing some tough early sason games. Good way to see what you have. I follow Wheaton(MA) and was just wondering if any body knows anything about the other teams on there Az. trip as far as good competition goes.
7-Mar Sat RIT (NY)
8-Mar Sun Saint John's (MN)
9-Mar Mon The College of New Jersey
10-Mar Tue The College of New Jersey
10-Mar Tue Rockford (IL)
12-Mar Thu Saint Cloud State (MN)
13-Mar Fri Johns Hopkins (MD)
14-Mar Sat Western New England
15-Mar Sun William Paterson (NJ)
15-Mar Sun Roger Williams

Thanks in advance for any insight I can get.
I would only worry about TCNJ, WNEC, WPU and RWU. Those are the in-region games.
As for the teams from my area, as already stated, St. Cloud isn't the best D-II baseball team, St. John's is a bit below average in Midwest terms and Rockford is very good. Of those three Rockford is by far the best – just a solid club all around. No overpowering pitchers since a RC kid was drafted a couple years ago, but they can hit. There's a good chance Wheaton won't see Rockford's best SPs since it's not in-region. Even in that case Rockford can outscore you. This is an offense that hung 19 on Carthage last year, although against Carthage's lesser pitchers and Rockford lost a few bats, but still ...

That written, I'd be surprised if any of the three Midwest teams knocked off Wheaton.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 17, 2009, 12:11:34 PM
Oshdude nice to see you wonder into the NE boards, some good insight for sure.  I would agree about the in-region games d3 dad.  I think that Wheaton will be fine, I think that thier biggest challenge will come in the shape of WNEC.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on February 17, 2009, 04:39:28 PM
Quote from: DIII Dad on February 16, 2009, 10:35:32 PM
May have just answered my own question. I just noticed the Teamline link on the home page for the Az. Invitational. Is that going to be for all games or just certain schools?
DlllDad
Teamline is usually up to the team to supply the broadcasters, and teamline provides the hook-up through a phone if memory serves me well.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DIII Dad on February 17, 2009, 09:49:36 PM
Thanks guys for the insight.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 18, 2009, 12:37:56 PM
I saw that Western Connecticut started the year off at 1-1 i think they are the only team so far in New England to play a game.  The games were posted on thier website. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 18, 2009, 01:57:37 PM
KSCfan,

Good Catch, I did not even realize WestConn had started.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: SonsofMattNoone on February 25, 2009, 07:03:36 PM
New to the site. Been a long time follower of D3 baseball, and since I moved my family to the Metro West area I've fallen in love with the babson baseball program. Just a heads up to everyone -- I think this team has what it takes to finally get out of the region. After sweeping Wheton in the regular season last year, they return sophmore ace Andrew Aizenstadt who might be the best pitcher in the nation that no one knows about. They head down to Florida in a few weeks to play some teams from the mid-west and should prove exactly what kind of year they are in store for.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on February 25, 2009, 08:37:48 PM
Certainly avid baseball fans know what a great freshmen season Aizenstadt had, both on the mound and at SS. For them to win the NEWMAC again would be amazing. They had a great senior class last year, so much leadership, offense and defense to replace. Cannot see them repeating last years success.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: SonsofMattNoone on February 27, 2009, 01:29:03 AM
Aizenstadt won't see much time at SS this year as his arm will be saved for Saturdays. Losing Delaney and Tamoush, the Beavers top performers will be tough but look for returners Bryan Evans, Dave Ahern and Jeff Wojnar to step up with the lumber. Also be on the watch for Delaney's replacement, 2nd year Bill Besinger and NEWMAC rookie of the year possible Bill Miller both out of the powerful Catholic Conference to be program changers for this squad.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 03, 2009, 08:42:33 AM
Babson is a good program, and a program that i do not know much about.  The beavers seem to be at the top of thier conference with Wheaton year in and year out.  They have one of the nicest fields in NE for sure, love that field.  I do think they will be competitive but i dont seem them in sunny beautiful willimantic for the regionals.  They certainly dont shy away from some good team in NE as they have Keene State, Southern Maine, Eastern, and Williams all on thier schedule.  However,  I would have to put Wheaton as the winner of that conference and unless Babson can rattle off some big non league wins i see another trip to the ECAC's for them. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 09, 2009, 08:47:22 AM
I see that some New England teams are winning games down in the South.  RIC has started the year off 3-0, with a win over Fitchburg as well.  It may be snowing up here in NE but the teams are south, or heading south this weekend.  Can not wait
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 23, 2009, 10:43:29 AM
Anyone want to throw out a ne poll.  Here is mine for what it is worth

1. Eastern CT- 10 game winning streak, with a healthy Gilblair puts them at the top of the NE poll in my opinion.

2. Southern Maine 7-1.  The huskies are showing pitching and fielding and beating up on teams.  A very good trip down south as well, has the huskies coming back to play Eastern this upcoming sat.

3. Wheaton- 12-1.  THe Lyons have been playing some great baseball.  They have quality wins over Hopkins, WNEC, and RIC.  Lyons looking good so far

4. Trinity- 8-2 on the year, the defending national champs with a strong showing so far.  Probably head of the NESCAC class at this point.

5. Amherst 7-3  Playing well, have Eastern on April 1, will find out how good they really are

6. RIC- They are 10-3 on the year. Strength of schedule is a little weak, but played Cortland and Wheaton tough, should of beaten Wheaton actually. But still playing some great ball as of right now.

7.  Keene State- I know the owls are 6-6 but the way they have been swinging the bats, if the young arms show up more consistantly the owls will win a lot of games.  Still a game that teams have circled on thier schedules

8. Insert name here, any ideas let me know thanks. NE shaping up to be a very good region again this year
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEDIII on March 23, 2009, 11:27:50 AM
KSCfan...I think you are a little more knowledgable with the majority of NE teams due to the fact that it seems like you have been to a good amount of games this spring. However, I would have to switch up your order of the top four teams in NE right now.

1. Wheaton - 12-1 record with the strongest spring trip schedule. Pitching staff led by All-American Gingras and seasoned Bernadini prob provides the best one two punch in NE. I don't see them slowing down anytime soon.

2.ECONN - riding a 12 game win streak. The EE can always swing it and Gilblair should be able to put them on his back the rest of the way. It will be interesting to see how this weekends games play out bs. USM.

3. USM - Solid line up that rivals anyone in NE. Capable of beating anyone.

4.Trinity - I think the Bantams might be a little overrated this year. Dropping two to Denison only backs this statement.

*Either way you look at it, I think that the NE region is by far the strongest in the country this year and it could make for a very interesting Regional.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on March 23, 2009, 11:50:35 AM
Quote from: NEDIII on March 23, 2009, 11:27:50 AM
KSCfan...I think you are a little more knowledgable with the majority of NE teams due to the fact that it seems like you have been to a good amount of games this spring. However, I would have to switch up your order of the top four teams in NE right now.

1. Wheaton - 12-1 record with the strongest spring trip schedule. Pitching staff led by All-American Gingras and seasoned Bernadini prob provides the best one two punch in NE. I don't see them slowing down anytime soon.

2.ECONN - riding a 12 game win streak. The EE can always swing it and Gilblair should be able to put them on his back the rest of the way. It will be interesting to see how this weekends games play out bs. USM.

3. USM - Solid line up that rivals anyone in NE. Capable of beating anyone.

4.Trinity - I think the Bantams might be a little overrated this year. Dropping two to Denison only backs this statement.

*Either way you look at it, I think that the NE region is by far the strongest in the country this year and it could make for a very interesting Regional.
Not sure about "by far," but I think NE may have a slight edge on the Mideast and Midwest in the early going.
ME: Etta, Heidelberg, Wooster, Thiel, Rose, Transy
MW: Scholastica, Oshkosh, St. Thomas, Stevens Point, Whitewater, Olaf

I'll take your teams ... so far ...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rbgosfan on March 23, 2009, 12:19:06 PM
To get an idea of strength in NE this year. Johns Hopkins played 5 NE teams in Phoenix (Wheaton, KSC, WNEC, Southern Maine,  East Conn) and got beat by every one of them!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 23, 2009, 01:22:08 PM
Oshdude, you bring up some very good teams from the "mid" region, maybe just my east coast bias.  It is too bad that teams are coming back up north to play almost in region games, and we will not be able to see some of these match ups unless it is in Wisconsin.  I think the top of the NE will be a dog fight all year long and before its all over multiple teams will be polled at the top of NE. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on March 23, 2009, 03:18:22 PM
I think you're right, biased or not. Hard to argue another region is better than NE right now. All of our top MW teams beat up on each other during the regular season, so it probably won't show in the year-end poll. But we have some contenders over here in the flyover states – Scholastica and a few other MIAC/WIAC teams.

That written, I really like Wheaton, ECSU, Trinity and USM this year. Coming from an outsider, I'll take Wheaton among that group for what it's worth.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on March 23, 2009, 05:14:52 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on March 23, 2009, 10:43:29 AM
Anyone want to throw out a ne poll.  Here is mine for what it is worth

1. Eastern CT- 10 game winning streak, with a healthy Gilblair puts them at the top of the NE poll in my opinion.

2. Southern Maine 7-1.  The huskies are showing pitching and fielding and beating up on teams.  A very good trip down south as well, has the huskies coming back to play Eastern this upcoming sat.

3. Wheaton- 12-1.  THe Lyons have been playing some great baseball.  They have quality wins over Hopkins, WNEC, and RIC.  Lyons looking good so far

4. Trinity- 8-2 on the year, the defending national champs with a strong showing so far.  Probably head of the NESCAC class at this point.

5. Amherst 7-3  Playing well, have Eastern on April 1, will find out how good they really are

6. RIC- They are 10-3 on the year. Strength of schedule is a little weak, but played Cortland and Wheaton tough, should of beaten Wheaton actually. But still playing some great ball as of right now.

7.  Keene State- I know the owls are 6-6 but the way they have been swinging the bats, if the young arms show up more consistantly the owls will win a lot of games.  Still a game that teams have circled on thier schedules

8. Insert name here, any ideas let me know thanks. NE shaping up to be a very good region again this year

Here's my 1st top 8 of the year, with a number of teams with 10+ games under their belts.

TheGNAC's New England Top 8

1. Eastern Connecticut (10-0) - The boys from Willimantic, CT are off to quite the start. Led by my pre-season pick for D-3 Player of the Year in New England, Shawn Gilblair, EConn is absolutely rolling right now. Spotless 10-0 record, .354 team batting average with 16 home runs in 10 games, 20-28 in stolen base attempts, and a 1.88 team ERA. That's otherworldly. I will say I'm a bit skeptical of their schedule thus far, and it would seem that Trinity's 45-1 record from last year will be safe. Still, a quality win over Johns Hopkins, last year's runner-up in the World Series, sure looks good.

2. Wheaton (12-1) - The Lyons were my darkhorse candidate to represent New England in the World Series this year, but it appears they're not going to sneak up on anybody now. Off to a sparkling 12-1 start, Wheaton is sporting a .360 team batting average with 12 home runs through 13 games. Normally a pitching and defensive-powered squad, it appears the Lyons have the offensive firepower this season to hit with anybody. The pitching doesn't appear as sharp as it has been in the past, with a 4.21 team ERA, but with the best 1-2 punch at the top of the rotation in the region in Gingras/Bernardini, I think they'll be fine.

3. Trinity (8-2) - It's official; with 2 losses to Denison last week, the Bantams are not going to go undefeated. Still, I think this squad has what it takes to repeat. Although their website has just 2 games listed, the Bantams are currently 8-2, and they sport one of the more formidable 3-4-5's in division 3 baseball in Killeen-Graham-Wood. Jeremiah Bayer looks to be as sharp as ever (13 K's in 7 innings against Suffolk last week), and when factoring in a comparably weak schedule, it looks like Trinity might once again finish with less than 5 losses in the regular season.

4. Southern Maine (7-1) - I said it earlier in the year; this is the best offense in New England. Through 8 games, they've done nothing to prove me wrong. A .351 team batting average with 10 homers in just 8 games is impressive, but perhaps the most jaw dropping statistic from the Huskies is their stolen bases - 27-31 in just 8 games. That's ridiculous, and shows the athleticism this squad possesses. The running game in college is perhaps the most overlooked aspect of the game, yet inevitably the best teams in the country always steal bases. It still appears USM's weakness is on the mound, as the boys are sporting a less-than-stellar 5.78 ERA. Still, with that offense, the pitching doesn't need to be sharp until Willimantic in May.

5. Suffolk (7-3) - The Rams scheduled one of the tougher spring trip schedules in the region, and they fared pretty well, all things considered. Their first two contests against Eastern CT and USM were snowed out, but Suffolk managed a 7-3 mark in Florida, with quality wins over Ripon, Keystone, and 2007 and 2008's MASCAC Champs in Salem State and Westfield State, respectively. Their only losses came to squads who played in regional tournaments in 2008 (Keystone (split), Rowan, and Trinity). Perhaps more impressive thus far though is Suffolk's win total when compared to their team statistics; just a .295 team batting average and a 4.77 ERA. I expect those figures to improve dramatically in the weak GNAC conference, and I fully expect the Rams to be playing in the regionals in May.

6. Babson College (8-3) - The Beavers were a fixture in these polls in 2008, and had an impressive campaign overall, despite bowing out early in the NEWMAC conference tournament. Babson is once again off to a hot start in 2009, led by an offense firing on all cylinders (.355 team batting average), although I'm not sure they have the explosiveness that the teams in front of them have (just 2 home runs in 11 games).

7. Rhode Island College (10-3) - RIC has burst onto the scenes a bit this season, and it's impossible to argue with their sterling 10-3 record. Still, I'll hold off on putting them higher until they beat a quality opponent, as wins against clubs like Fitchburg State, Elms (2), and Newbury (2) aren't exactly impressive. Still, RIC has a nice .323 team batting average to go along with 28 stolen bases in just 13 games, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them making some serious noise in the ridiculously-talented LEC this year.

8. Keene State College (6-6) - The Owls are easily New England's biggest enigma 1/4 through the season. They have undoubtedly the best offense in New England, if not the country (.392 team batting average, 44 doubles, 13 triples, 7 homers), but their pitching is, for lack of a better word, abysmal. A team ERA of 7.09, and two starters with ERA's of 14.85 and 19.29, respectively. Keene can obviously hit with anybody, but unless they find some dominant arms and soon, I fear they're going to be finding themselves on the outside looking in at both this list and the regional tournament in May.

Just missed: Amherst, WNEC
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3ball123 on March 24, 2009, 05:59:30 AM
I've been paying attention to these boards for a while, and decided to sign up so I can throw in my two cents.

The GNAC, I think your poll is dead on.  10-0 is 10-0, and that deserves the top spot at this point in the year (regionally and nationally).  Last year it took too long for Trinity to overtake the top spot, though there was nothing more they could have done throughout the year to prove their case.

KSCfan, I'm curious about why you think RIC "should of beaten" Wheaton.  From what I saw in the box score, RIC was up 5-4 after five innings with their ace on the mound against Wheaton's number 5 starter.  Wheaton's bullpen gave up a run in the 7th, but other than that they were solid.  RIC's bullpen gave up 5 runs in the 8th, and 5 runs in the 9th (all earned runs).  Wheaton was the better team that day.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 24, 2009, 07:51:08 AM
D3ball123- I can see your point on wheaton and ric.  I did not see the game but i read the box score and listened to our "ric guy" here on the website.  The impression that is that RIC was leading 6-4 going into the 8th.  I feel that anytime you have a 8-6 lead in the 8th you should of won the game.  I give credit to Wheaton for battling back and winning the game, and yes they where the better team that day.  Not to take anything away from Wheaton, if you are beating wheaton by 2 in the 8th you better have someone in the bullpen that can get the job done.  RIC blew a very good chance to beat one of the top teams in NE and put those strength of schedule questions to bed. That is where i was coming from with that one.  If RIC wants to establish itself in the top tier of NE then they need to win these games.

GNAC great write up on the NE poll, once again, a great job breaking down the teams.  I see that our top 4 are very similar and i think everyone can agree that these 4 are the top teams on NE right now.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on March 24, 2009, 10:16:19 AM
Following up on my rankings, it appears I've made quite the oversight. Curry is currently 12-2, and are hitting .394 as a club with 17 home runs. They haven't exactly played the most difficult schedule thus far, with their most impressive wins probably coming in a double-header sweep against Bowdoin. Still, 12-2 is 12-2, and their northern schedule should tell if they're pretenders or contenders, with games against Babson, WNEC, and Wheaton on the slate. Re-slotting my teams, I'd probably put Curry 5th, with the teams below them moving down one.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEDIII on March 24, 2009, 10:29:06 AM
KSCfan & GNAC - I completely agree with most of your analysis of the top NE teams. I think the big reason that made me pick Wheaton as the best overall team right now is thier quality wins thus far. Coach Podbelski has never been one to "pad" his schedule and this has only helped them out further down the road. This years schedule includes wins over DII St. Cloud (22-6), John Hopkins, and TCNJ (twice). Wheaton has always played the top NE teams out of conference. Thier 2009 schedule includes DI Bryant (who is 13-7 in their first year of DI play including wins over Boston College and Virginia Tech.) USM and EConn. I think this has gone unnoticed for quite some time as they tend to do this year in and year out.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEDIII on March 24, 2009, 10:35:05 AM
...not to mention, WNEC, Suffolk, Roger Williams, RIC and Curry.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3ball123 on March 24, 2009, 11:30:04 AM
I just saw on the Brandeis website that their game today with Wheaton has been postponed.  Are other games getting changed because of cold weather??  This seems a little excessive to me...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rbgosfan on March 24, 2009, 12:38:45 PM
Yesterday, they postponed New England College at WNEC because of the cold weather. Wind chills are in the 20's and I guess they think that is a little too cold for baseball. It is tough because the sun is shining and the fields are in pretty good shape which is rare for the northeast this early in the season.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on March 24, 2009, 05:20:13 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on March 23, 2009, 05:14:52 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on March 23, 2009, 10:43:29 AM
Anyone want to throw out a ne poll.  Here is mine for what it is worth

1. Eastern CT- 10 game winning streak, with a healthy Gilblair puts them at the top of the NE poll in my opinion.

2. Southern Maine 7-1.  The huskies are showing pitching and fielding and beating up on teams.  A very good trip down south as well, has the huskies coming back to play Eastern this upcoming sat.

3. Wheaton- 12-1.  THe Lyons have been playing some great baseball.  They have quality wins over Hopkins, WNEC, and RIC.  Lyons looking good so far

4. Trinity- 8-2 on the year, the defending national champs with a strong showing so far.  Probably head of the NESCAC class at this point.

5. Amherst 7-3  Playing well, have Eastern on April 1, will find out how good they really are

6. RIC- They are 10-3 on the year. Strength of schedule is a little weak, but played Cortland and Wheaton tough, should of beaten Wheaton actually. But still playing some great ball as of right now.

7.  Keene State- I know the owls are 6-6 but the way they have been swinging the bats, if the young arms show up more consistantly the owls will win a lot of games.  Still a game that teams have circled on thier schedules

8. Insert name here, any ideas let me know thanks. NE shaping up to be a very good region again this year

Here's my 1st top 8 of the year, with a number of teams with 10+ games under their belts.

TheGNAC's New England Top 8

1. Eastern Connecticut (10-0) - The boys from Willimantic, CT are off to quite the start. Led by my pre-season pick for D-3 Player of the Year in New England, Shawn Gilblair, EConn is absolutely rolling right now. Spotless 10-0 record, .354 team batting average with 16 home runs in 10 games, 20-28 in stolen base attempts, and a 1.88 team ERA. That's otherworldly. I will say I'm a bit skeptical of their schedule thus far, and it would seem that Trinity's 45-1 record from last year will be safe. Still, a quality win over Johns Hopkins, last year's runner-up in the World Series, sure looks good.

2. Wheaton (12-1) - The Lyons were my darkhorse candidate to represent New England in the World Series this year, but it appears they're not going to sneak up on anybody now. Off to a sparkling 12-1 start, Wheaton is sporting a .360 team batting average with 12 home runs through 13 games. Normally a pitching and defensive-powered squad, it appears the Lyons have the offensive firepower this season to hit with anybody. The pitching doesn't appear as sharp as it has been in the past, with a 4.21 team ERA, but with the best 1-2 punch at the top of the rotation in the region in Gingras/Bernardini, I think they'll be fine.

3. Trinity (8-2) - It's official; with 2 losses to Denison last week, the Bantams are not going to go undefeated. Still, I think this squad has what it takes to repeat. Although their website has just 2 games listed, the Bantams are currently 8-2, and they sport one of the more formidable 3-4-5's in division 3 baseball in Killeen-Graham-Wood. Jeremiah Bayer looks to be as sharp as ever (13 K's in 7 innings against Suffolk last week), and when factoring in a comparably weak schedule, it looks like Trinity might once again finish with less than 5 losses in the regular season.

4. Southern Maine (7-1) - I said it earlier in the year; this is the best offense in New England. Through 8 games, they've done nothing to prove me wrong. A .351 team batting average with 10 homers in just 8 games is impressive, but perhaps the most jaw dropping statistic from the Huskies is their stolen bases - 27-31 in just 8 games. That's ridiculous, and shows the athleticism this squad possesses. The running game in college is perhaps the most overlooked aspect of the game, yet inevitably the best teams in the country always steal bases. It still appears USM's weakness is on the mound, as the boys are sporting a less-than-stellar 5.78 ERA. Still, with that offense, the pitching doesn't need to be sharp until Willimantic in May.

5. Suffolk (7-3) - The Rams scheduled one of the tougher spring trip schedules in the region, and they fared pretty well, all things considered. Their first two contests against Eastern CT and USM were snowed out, but Suffolk managed a 7-3 mark in Florida, with quality wins over Ripon, Keystone, and 2007 and 2008's MASCAC Champs in Salem State and Westfield State, respectively. Their only losses came to squads who played in regional tournaments in 2008 (Keystone (split), Rowan, and Trinity). Perhaps more impressive thus far though is Suffolk's win total when compared to their team statistics; just a .295 team batting average and a 4.77 ERA. I expect those figures to improve dramatically in the weak GNAC conference, and I fully expect the Rams to be playing in the regionals in May.

6. Babson College (8-3) - The Beavers were a fixture in these polls in 2008, and had an impressive campaign overall, despite bowing out early in the NEWMAC conference tournament. Babson is once again off to a hot start in 2009, led by an offense firing on all cylinders (.355 team batting average), although I'm not sure they have the explosiveness that the teams in front of them have (just 2 home runs in 11 games).

7. Rhode Island College (10-3) - RIC has burst onto the scenes a bit this season, and it's impossible to argue with their sterling 10-3 record. Still, I'll hold off on putting them higher until they beat a quality opponent, as wins against clubs like Fitchburg State, Elms (2), and Newbury (2) aren't exactly impressive. Still, RIC has a nice .323 team batting average to go along with 28 stolen bases in just 13 games, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them making some serious noise in the ridiculously-talented LEC this year.

8. Keene State College (6-6) - The Owls are easily New England's biggest enigma 1/4 through the season. They have undoubtedly the best offense in New England, if not the country (.392 team batting average, 44 doubles, 13 triples, 7 homers), but their pitching is, for lack of a better word, abysmal. A team ERA of 7.09, and two starters with ERA's of 14.85 and 19.29, respectively. Keene can obviously hit with anybody, but unless they find some dominant arms and soon, I fear they're going to be finding themselves on the outside looking in at both this list and the regional tournament in May.

Just missed: Amherst, WNEC

GNAC,

You have come through with another wonderful analysis, and not because ECSU is your top pick.

Ever think about writing for Sports Illustrated or Baseball Mag?

Again great, for insight into the top teams!!!! +K
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: SonsofMattNoone on March 24, 2009, 10:21:22 PM
I was in Wellesley this afternoon to see Suffolk take on Babson, and true to GNAC's analysis Suffolk squeeked by with a 2-1 win over the Beavers. Reid Jackson spun a gem for the Rams, while Barton threw 7 strong for the Beavers. Still waiting to see whether either team will really have what it takes to make a run at Wheaton or EConn. I was interested to spot former Trinity captain and stud hurler Mike Regan in the Babson dugout as a first year pitching coach. The staff over there should be very disciplined and will be better off for having Regan around.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on March 24, 2009, 11:04:40 PM
Quote from: SonsofMattNoone on March 24, 2009, 10:21:22 PM
I was in Wellesley this afternoon to see Suffolk take on Babson, and true to GNAC's analysis Suffolk squeeked by with a 2-1 win over the Beavers. Reid Jackson spun a gem for the Rams, while Barton threw 7 strong for the Beavers. Still waiting to see whether either team will really have what it takes to make a run at Wheaton or EConn. I was interested to spot former Trinity captain and stud hurler Mike Regan in the Babson dugout as a first year pitching coach. The staff over there should be very disciplined and will be better off for having Regan around.

Sounds like a good game over at Govoni Field. Jackson's been pretty nasty at times in his career at Suffolk, and it appears he had everything working today in tossing a complete game against a quality Babson club.

I'm mighty interested to see how the GNAC shakes out this year with Suffolk and St. Joe's both fielding quality squads.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 25, 2009, 01:39:51 AM
Quote from: TheGNAC on March 23, 2009, 05:14:52 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on March 23, 2009, 10:43:29 AM
Anyone want to throw out a ne poll.  Here is mine for what it is worth

1. Eastern CT- 10 game winning streak, with a healthy Gilblair puts them at the top of the NE poll in my opinion.

2. Southern Maine 7-1.  The huskies are showing pitching and fielding and beating up on teams.  A very good trip down south as well, has the huskies coming back to play Eastern this upcoming sat.

3. Wheaton- 12-1.  THe Lyons have been playing some great baseball.  They have quality wins over Hopkins, WNEC, and RIC.  Lyons looking good so far

4. Trinity- 8-2 on the year, the defending national champs with a strong showing so far.  Probably head of the NESCAC class at this point.

5. Amherst 7-3  Playing well, have Eastern on April 1, will find out how good they really are

6. RIC- They are 10-3 on the year. Strength of schedule is a little weak, but played Cortland and Wheaton tough, should of beaten Wheaton actually. But still playing some great ball as of right now.

7.  Keene State- I know the owls are 6-6 but the way they have been swinging the bats, if the young arms show up more consistantly the owls will win a lot of games.  Still a game that teams have circled on thier schedules

8. Insert name here, any ideas let me know thanks. NE shaping up to be a very good region again this year

Here's my 1st top 8 of the year, with a number of teams with 10+ games under their belts.

TheGNAC's New England Top 8

1. Eastern Connecticut (10-0) - The boys from Willimantic, CT are off to quite the start. Led by my pre-season pick for D-3 Player of the Year in New England, Shawn Gilblair, EConn is absolutely rolling right now. Spotless 10-0 record, .354 team batting average with 16 home runs in 10 games, 20-28 in stolen base attempts, and a 1.88 team ERA. That's otherworldly. I will say I'm a bit skeptical of their schedule thus far, and it would seem that Trinity's 45-1 record from last year will be safe. Still, a quality win over Johns Hopkins, last year's runner-up in the World Series, sure looks good.

2. Wheaton (12-1) - The Lyons were my darkhorse candidate to represent New England in the World Series this year, but it appears they're not going to sneak up on anybody now. Off to a sparkling 12-1 start, Wheaton is sporting a .360 team batting average with 12 home runs through 13 games. Normally a pitching and defensive-powered squad, it appears the Lyons have the offensive firepower this season to hit with anybody. The pitching doesn't appear as sharp as it has been in the past, with a 4.21 team ERA, but with the best 1-2 punch at the top of the rotation in the region in Gingras/Bernardini, I think they'll be fine.

3. Trinity (8-2) - It's official; with 2 losses to Denison last week, the Bantams are not going to go undefeated. Still, I think this squad has what it takes to repeat. Although their website has just 2 games listed, the Bantams are currently 8-2, and they sport one of the more formidable 3-4-5's in division 3 baseball in Killeen-Graham-Wood. Jeremiah Bayer looks to be as sharp as ever (13 K's in 7 innings against Suffolk last week), and when factoring in a comparably weak schedule, it looks like Trinity might once again finish with less than 5 losses in the regular season.

4. Southern Maine (7-1) - I said it earlier in the year; this is the best offense in New England. Through 8 games, they've done nothing to prove me wrong. A .351 team batting average with 10 homers in just 8 games is impressive, but perhaps the most jaw dropping statistic from the Huskies is their stolen bases - 27-31 in just 8 games. That's ridiculous, and shows the athleticism this squad possesses. The running game in college is perhaps the most overlooked aspect of the game, yet inevitably the best teams in the country always steal bases. It still appears USM's weakness is on the mound, as the boys are sporting a less-than-stellar 5.78 ERA. Still, with that offense, the pitching doesn't need to be sharp until Willimantic in May.

5. Suffolk (7-3) - The Rams scheduled one of the tougher spring trip schedules in the region, and they fared pretty well, all things considered. Their first two contests against Eastern CT and USM were snowed out, but Suffolk managed a 7-3 mark in Florida, with quality wins over Ripon, Keystone, and 2007 and 2008's MASCAC Champs in Salem State and Westfield State, respectively. Their only losses came to squads who played in regional tournaments in 2008 (Keystone (split), Rowan, and Trinity). Perhaps more impressive thus far though is Suffolk's win total when compared to their team statistics; just a .295 team batting average and a 4.77 ERA. I expect those figures to improve dramatically in the weak GNAC conference, and I fully expect the Rams to be playing in the regionals in May.

6. Babson College (8-3) - The Beavers were a fixture in these polls in 2008, and had an impressive campaign overall, despite bowing out early in the NEWMAC conference tournament. Babson is once again off to a hot start in 2009, led by an offense firing on all cylinders (.355 team batting average), although I'm not sure they have the explosiveness that the teams in front of them have (just 2 home runs in 11 games).

7. Rhode Island College (10-3) - RIC has burst onto the scenes a bit this season, and it's impossible to argue with their sterling 10-3 record. Still, I'll hold off on putting them higher until they beat a quality opponent, as wins against clubs like Fitchburg State, Elms (2), and Newbury (2) aren't exactly impressive. Still, RIC has a nice .323 team batting average to go along with 28 stolen bases in just 13 games, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them making some serious noise in the ridiculously-talented LEC this year.

8. Keene State College (6-6) - The Owls are easily New England's biggest enigma 1/4 through the season. They have undoubtedly the best offense in New England, if not the country (.392 team batting average, 44 doubles, 13 triples, 7 homers), but their pitching is, for lack of a better word, abysmal. A team ERA of 7.09, and two starters with ERA's of 14.85 and 19.29, respectively. Keene can obviously hit with anybody, but unless they find some dominant arms and soon, I fear they're going to be finding themselves on the outside looking in at both this list and the regional tournament in May.

Just missed: Amherst, WNEC

Good thoughts!  +1!  :)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on March 26, 2009, 08:44:50 PM
Couple scores are in from games today...

Looks like Keene got a solid pitching performance from sophomore Corey Vogt, as the Owls dropped Babson 4-1 at Govoni Field. Vogt went 6 innings, allowing just 4 hits and no runs while striking out 8. Pretty impressive stat line, as Babson has been crushing the ball thus far this year (hitting .336 as a club after today). Keene improves to 8-6, while Babson falls to 9-5.

No box score is available yet, but Suffolk beat Bridgewater State 6-2 today to improve to 9-3. Bridgewater State falls to 7-8.

Rhode Island College improved to 13-3 on the year today, beating Salem State 10-8. Salem State falls to 6-6.

WNEC traveled to Troy, NY today to take on RPI, and took the worst of it, dropping the contest 13-4. RPI improves to 10-4, and WNEC falls to 8-5.

Wheaton put the hurt on UMass-Dartmouth today, dropping UMD 9-2. Wheaton improves to 13-1 with the victory.

Going into this weekend's conference games, it appears the top four clubs in the region are clear; Eastern CT, Wheaton, USM, and Trinity. Following them, my money is on Suffolk, RIC, Keene, and Curry as the darkhorse candidates to do some damage in the regionals.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 27, 2009, 07:58:53 AM
The GNAC i think you are right on with your analysis.  I think that the top 4 are pretty clear, however, i feel that any of those other teams you mentioned are capable of getting hot and running off win streaks at anytime.  Game of the weekend in New England is in Willimantic Ct this weekend USM travels to Eastern for a LEC doubleheader
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 30, 2009, 08:40:48 AM
Another week in the books, and some interesting games might i say.  UMD sweeping Keene on sat said something, as well as an Eastern and USM split still makes me wonder who is better.  Wheaton still rolling along strong, as well as trinity.  ANyone want to throw out another top 8 poll. Here is mine

1. Wheaton- winning 15 straight and rolling.  Lyons seem to be class of NE
2. USM- Beat a healthy Gilblair in split with Eastern
3. Eastern- Split with Southern Maine proves its still to early to pick one ahead of the other, i just picked Eastern 3rd, because Southern Maine beat thier ace
4. Trinity- Defending champs still rolling along just fine.  In sweep over weekend looked strong

It is here after the top 4 where things get interesting.  I feel that these 4 teams have seperated themselves from the rest of NE as of right now.

5. Curry Collge. -Split this weekend with WNEC.  The colonels are i think are something like 15-3.  I still dont think that they are in the league of the top 4 but i think still solidly the 5th best team in New England right now
6.  Suffolk- Rams are 11-3, big game with wheaton coming up on the schedule
7. RIC- split with UMB over the weekend and the anchorheads still have a pretty solid record.
8. I'll go williams college.  After losing first 5 they are now 6-5.  So many teams are floating right at that 500 level its tough to pick one.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on March 30, 2009, 06:36:32 PM
I'd like to extend a compliment to the grounds crew at Pierce Field in Providence. They got the field ready to play in very little time yesterday. Waking up Sun. AM there didn't look like there was any chance there would be any games.  After a 2 hour delay St. Joes and J&W were able to get in their doubleheader.  Split, St. Joes taking first, J&W coming back to take 2nd.  The lights were certainly nothing to write home about but the field held up very well.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on March 30, 2009, 07:30:13 PM
It's Monday, and that means it's time for my weekly regional rankings.

1. Wheaton (17-1) - New #1 this week, as the boys from Norton rolled, going 5-0 and beating their opponents by a combined score of 60-12. They're hitting .364 as a team and have a team ERA of 3.69. Not only are they the best team in New England, they just might be the best team in the nation.

2. Eastern CT (14-1) - The Warriors lost their first game of the year this past weekend, splitting a weekend series with rival and fellow top-10 team Southern Maine. The Huskies roughed up EConn star Shawn Gilblair a bit, but the Warriors rebounded well in game two.

3. Southern Maine (12-2) - The Huskies knocked off the #1 team in the land this past weekend, and looked impressive in doing so. They have an offensive that doesn't quit, and Tim Therrien proved on Saturday he is capable of shutting down even the most potent offenses. If Therrien can continue his emergence as a bonafide ace, expect USM to be a fixture in the top 3 here for the remainder of the season.

4. Trinity (12-3) - The defending national champs started the week out strong, but took a hit today, falling to WPI 9-7. The Bantams still rolled in the NESCAC though, sweeping Bowdoin in a 3 game set. It's becoming clear that the Bantams might not be the cream of the crop that we expected them to be.

5. Curry (15-3) - Curry split with conference foe WNEC this weekend, but their results speak for itself. Their offense is perhaps the most potent one in the country that no one is talking about (.391, 17 HR), and Cory Collins has emerged as a stopper (3-0, 1.52 ERA). I think they're the best club in the CCC, with WNEC a close second.

6. Suffolk (11-3) - The Rams had a perfect week, going 4-0 with victories over Babson, Bridgewater, and a two-game shellacking of Rivier (34-0 and 9-1). With conference rivals Johnson and Wales and St. Joe's splitting, Suffolk has the inside track on the #1 seed in the GNAC. A tough test awaits tomorrow, as the Rams will travel south to take on Wheaton.

7. WPI (14-6) - WPI was off to a fine start before today, but after beating Trinity, they've shown they have what it takes to compete with anybody. At 14-6, their record is sterling, and Conor Fahey is one of the top pitchers in the country, capable of beating any team at any time. I don't see them emerging from the NEWMAC this year with Wheaton as good as it is, however if they can run off a few more in-region victories like today, the NCAA Selection Committee would have a difficult time excluding them from regional play.

8. Rhode Island College (14-4) - I was a bit skeptical of the Anchorman last week, as their schedule and wins haven't exactly been overly impressive. They didn't do much to change my views this week, splitting a LEC series with a weak UMass-Boston squad on Saturday. As I said last week, RIC will have to beat some good teams before I annoint them anymore than I have.

Just missed: Williams, Westfield State
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 31, 2009, 08:04:03 AM
GNAC great call on the top 8, i will admit that i missed WPI so good spot up on that.  I agree with Rhode Island college and its strength of schedule.  I think that they need to win some in conference wins against some of the big boys like Easterna and or USM before i start moving them up the ladder.  Right now i think what is standing out is pitching to me.  The top 4 of NE clearly have pitching, and that is never more evident than down at Keene State. Thier pitching has been up and down, and that is reflected in thier 8-8 record.  The same with Babson, and Williams, pitching up and down and thier records right around 500.  I know the saying says you need pitchiing to win, and that has never been more obvious than in NE this year
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3ball123 on March 31, 2009, 09:23:25 AM
"THE GNAC's" Top 4 Pitching Stats:

Wheaton: 18 Games, 3.69 ERA, 163 Hits, 77 Runs (65 Earned), 42 BB, 128 K

ECSU: 15 Games, 3.50 ERA, 117 Hits, 75 Runs (51 Earned), 54 BB, 126 K

USM: 14 Games, 5.21 ERA, 135 Hits, 80 Runs (66 Earned), 44 BB, 98 K

Trinity: 15 Games, 4.24 ERA, 113 Hits, 84 Runs (56 Earned), 76 BB, 107 K


If pitching wins, Wheaton and ECSU have separated themselves to this point, in my opinion.  And for those that may argue that Trinity and USM have potent offenses to make up for the discrepancy, consider the following:

Trinity: 8.9 runs scored per game
USM: 10.6 runs scored per game
ECSU: 10.2 runs scored per game
Wheaton: 10.8 runs scored per game

Thoughts?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on March 31, 2009, 10:05:26 AM
Quote from: d3ball123 on March 31, 2009, 09:23:25 AM
"THE GNAC's" Top 4 Pitching Stats:

Wheaton: 18 Games, 3.69 ERA, 163 Hits, 77 Runs (65 Earned), 42 BB, 128 K

ECSU: 15 Games, 3.50 ERA, 117 Hits, 75 Runs (51 Earned), 54 BB, 126 K

USM: 14 Games, 5.21 ERA, 135 Hits, 80 Runs (66 Earned), 44 BB, 98 K

Trinity: 15 Games, 4.24 ERA, 113 Hits, 84 Runs (56 Earned), 76 BB, 107 K


If pitching wins, Wheaton and ECSU have separated themselves to this point, in my opinion.  And for those that may argue that Trinity and USM have potent offenses to make up for the discrepancy, consider the following:

Trinity: 8.9 runs scored per game
USM: 10.6 runs scored per game
ECSU: 10.2 runs scored per game
Wheaton: 10.8 runs scored per game

Thoughts?

I've contended for a while now that I'm not sure Southern Maine has the pitching to win the region this year, no matter how awesome they are offensively. Therrien's performance over the weekend is obviously encouraging, but the other 3 teams, Trinity included, all have a bonafide All-American ace. USM doesn't. Although Trinity probably has the least amount of pitching depth out of the four.

Still, when Wheaton can run out a one-two of Bernardini-Gingras with Barnes and Simmons at the end of games, that's just silly. Same at Eastern, with Gilblair-Fontaine-Musson and Dutton and Wojick at the end of games.

Obviously the national polls agree, as Eastern and Wheaton are the #1 and #2 teams in the land as of today.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3ball123 on March 31, 2009, 10:18:15 AM
Quote from: TheGNAC on March 31, 2009, 10:05:26 AM
Quote from: d3ball123 on March 31, 2009, 09:23:25 AM
"THE GNAC's" Top 4 Pitching Stats:

Wheaton: 18 Games, 3.69 ERA, 163 Hits, 77 Runs (65 Earned), 42 BB, 128 K

ECSU: 15 Games, 3.50 ERA, 117 Hits, 75 Runs (51 Earned), 54 BB, 126 K

USM: 14 Games, 5.21 ERA, 135 Hits, 80 Runs (66 Earned), 44 BB, 98 K

Trinity: 15 Games, 4.24 ERA, 113 Hits, 84 Runs (56 Earned), 76 BB, 107 K


If pitching wins, Wheaton and ECSU have separated themselves to this point, in my opinion.  And for those that may argue that Trinity and USM have potent offenses to make up for the discrepancy, consider the following:

Trinity: 8.9 runs scored per game
USM: 10.6 runs scored per game
ECSU: 10.2 runs scored per game
Wheaton: 10.8 runs scored per game

Thoughts?

I've contended for a while now that I'm not sure Southern Maine has the pitching to win the region this year, no matter how awesome they are offensively. Therrien's performance over the weekend is obviously encouraging, but the other 3 teams, Trinity included, all have a bonafide All-American ace. USM doesn't. Although Trinity probably has the least amount of pitching depth out of the four.

Still, when Wheaton can run out a one-two of Bernardini-Gingras with Barnes and Simmons at the end of games, that's just silly. Same at Eastern, with Gilblair-Fontaine-Musson and Dutton and Wojick at the end of games.

Obviously the national polls agree, as Eastern and Wheaton are the #1 and #2 teams in the land as of today.



I agree.  I decided to throw the stats out there in order to validate your top 4, and somewhat contend KSCfan's statement that the "top 4 of NE clearly have pitching."
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 31, 2009, 11:52:23 AM
dball123- Yes USM's pitching era is a bit high, buti feel like thier starters can hold the game close enough to let thier offense do the trick.  I guess what i was trying to say is that as long as thier starters can keep it close thier offense can pick up the slack.  Therrian looked good in his start against eastern as well.  In order to compete at the top of NE you need to have a bullpen, 3 to 4 quality starters and an offense that can hit a bit.  I was trying to say that the top 4 all have these.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on March 31, 2009, 12:34:06 PM
This illustrates ECSU pitching depth:


Player                 era  w-l app-gs  cg  sho  sv  ip  h  r  er  bb  so  2b  3b  hr  ab  b/avg   

Jim Schult           0.75  1-0  2-2     0  0/0  0  12.0  10  3  1  4  7  1  0  0  43  .233   
James Kukucka   1.08  1-0  5-2    0  0/1  0  16.2  11  7  2  5  7  4  0  0  61  .180   
Mike Tingley       1.23  1-0  3-1     0  0/0  0  7.1  5  1  1  2  12  1  0  0  25  .200   
Wes Dutton       1.42  0-0  7-0     0  0/1  0  12.2  6  5  2  4  8  1  0  1  42  .143   
Chris Wojick       1.74  1-0  7-0    0  0/1  2  10.1  7  4  2  7  12  0  0  0  37  .189   
Matt Fontaine    2.16  2-0  6-2    0  0/0  1  16.2  12  7  4  7  15  2  0  0  61  .197   
Will Musson       2.53  3-0  5-3    0  0/1  0  21.1  13  7  6  9  21  3  0  2  72  .181   
Andrew Morr.     3.00  1-0  2-0    0  0/0  0  3.0  5  2  1  2  1  1  0  0  15  .333  0   
Shawn Gilblair   4.85  2-1  3-3    0  0/1  0  13.0  16  9  7  3  24  2  0  3  56  .286   
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on March 31, 2009, 08:34:24 PM
Suffolk beat Wheaton 4-2 today down in Norton. Ranked 2nd nationally in today's D3Baseball.com poll, the Lyons lose just their 2nd game of the season and 1st in almost a month, falling to 17-2. Suffolk wins for the 11th time in 12 contests, improving to 12-3 on the year.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on March 31, 2009, 09:35:09 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on March 31, 2009, 08:34:24 PM
Suffolk beat Wheaton 4-2 today down in Norton. Ranked 2nd nationally in today's D3Baseball.com poll, the Lyons lose just their 2nd game of the season and 1st in almost a month, falling to 17-2. Suffolk wins for the 11th time in 12 contests, improving to 12-3 on the year.


And Bowdoin 7-USM 4, and Bridgewater State 10-RIC 4

Upsetville in New England today, eh?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 01, 2009, 08:52:39 AM
Suffolk beating wheaton is a surprise but i think that they will win some games before the end of the year.  The rams are 12-3 on the year, and that is not too bad.  Wheaton's win streak wasnt going to go on forever.  Bridgewater over RIC i dont find that amazing because RIC has been questionable all year long. With a loss to UMass Boston and now Bridgewater it seems that RIC is coing down to earth a little bit after a hot start. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on April 01, 2009, 04:01:32 PM
I have said from Day one the RIC was an oveerrated teams and its starting to show up a little bit more every game......
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 01, 2009, 10:01:48 PM
Maybe some of you know this web site,  maps.live.com, it provides very clear close up birds eye views of any address you type in and in addition you can rotate the view in 4 directions.

Check out ECSU's Baseball stadium on this.

Under "Location", type in  Eastern Connecticut State University, and then click and drag the view north of Route 6

Here the URL for Eastern's Baseball Stadium:

http://maps.live.com/#JndoZXJlMT1FYXN0ZXJuK0Nvbm5lY3RpY3V0K1N0YXRlK3VuaXZlcnNpdHkrJmJiPTQwLjc0NDkwNzkxMzgyNDQlN2UtNzQuMDIzMjQ0NjY5NDc5NyU3ZTQwLjc0MzA5MDYxNDI4ODUlN2UtNzQuMDI3MjI4NzIwMDI1



Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: santeezy06 on April 01, 2009, 10:33:04 PM
JCon,

Did someone from RIC do something to you when you were younger. RIC still isn't overrated we have been pitching younger pitchers to get them started up, the thing with young pitchers you should know is they miss spots. Like UMB does on a consistent basis. WE played you guys you pulled off a win now move on, we had 5 errors in that game, 2 of which were by a beat up shortstop that shouldn't had probably played in the game. No excuses but you saw him go down, his ankle is still injured. I don't see what your beef is with the team cause I believe in pitching we are ranked #3 in batting #4 fielding # 2 in the LEC. So overrated were not, but apparently hated by you. You can't win them all and in your teams case they might not win 10 games this year. I had said it before we will contend with teams, we are not a dominate threat.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on April 02, 2009, 12:28:40 PM
I just dont like how a team plays a in my option very padded Scheduele I never said they werre a bad team but i feel if they played better teams there record would not be as good as it is thats all I am saying.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 06, 2009, 10:45:12 AM
Its monday and here is a new NE top 8 in my opinion

1. USM- Beat up on Wheaton hard yesterday and seem to be rolling right along.  With a Wheaton victory and an Eastern CT loss im picking the huskies as tops of NE right now
2. Trinity- Sweep of Tufts has the Bantams in my number 2 spot. Defending national champions continue to play good ball, espically in the NESCAC
3. Wheaton- Got waxed by USM sees them drop to 3 this week.  Still not that concerned about them.  Im sure they will be just fine
4. Eastern- Surprise loss to UMD was exciting, but quickly got back on track with a beating of Plymouth stat the next day
5. Curry College 16-3 on the year- did not play on the weekend.  Must of been a bye week
6. Suffolk- 3-1 on the weekend, Split with J&W and a sweep of Emerson has them at 15-4.  Rams are a very strong team this year.   Look for them to be at Eastern this year for the regional
7. Williams- on a ten game win streak.  Ephs are looking to stay hot
8.  Keene State- won three games over the weekend, bats looking to stay hot.

Dropped out- RIC, WPI  WPI is 15-9 i think that Keene beats them head to head, RIC is in the midst of looking the worse they have looked all year
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 06, 2009, 04:19:54 PM
TheGNAC's Weekly New England Rankings - 3rd week in, and we have a new number one.

1. Southern Maine (14-3) - The Huskies made perhaps the week's biggest statement yesterday, beating #2 Wheaton 14-3 in Norton, MA. This game pitted Wheaton's All-American Adam Gingras against USM's ace-apparent Tim Therrien, with Gingras taking the brunt of it. The Huskies have shown once again they can put a hurting on any pitcher, regardless of pedigree, as they have now knocked around two All-American studs in ECSU's Shawn Gilblair and Gingras. If Therrien can continue his emergence as one of the top pitchers in New England, the Huskies are going to very difficult to beat in both the LEC and the regionals.

2. Eastern Connecticut (18-2) - The Warriors have spent much of the young season receiving a lot of hype, all of it deserved. Still, they haven't been immune to the occasional hiccup this season, either, as this past week proved. The Warriors, for lack of a better term, layed an egg this past weekend, dropping a game to lowly UMass-Dartmouth 4-3 on Saturday. ECSU rebounded nicely on Sunday however, sweeping a two game set with with Plymouth State by a combined score of 33-1. As usual, the offense continues to roll along, as ECSU is hitting a collective .354 with 28 homers, tops in New England. The pitching has also been nothing short of stellar, with a cumulative team ERA of 3.17. Shawn Gilblair continues to shine on both sides, hitting .394 with 25 RBI to go along with a 3-1 record, 3.15 ERA and an eye-popping 36 K's in just 20 innings.

3. Wheaton (20-3) - The first and only team in the region with 20 wins, Wheaton still had by it's standards a fairly awful week, dropping games to Suffolk and Southern Maine, both times at home. Worse, it apears the Lyons two aces, Gingras and Bernardini, are human, too. Gingras took the aforementioned loss against USM, while Bernardini took a no decision against Coast Guard, allowing 8 hits and 5 earned runs in just 4 innings on Saturday. Still, the Wheaton offense has few peers, both in this region and nationally, as they sport a .358 team batting average with 21 homers. No team is immune to occasional bumps in the road, and I fully expect Wheaton to continue rolling right along this week, on their way to yet another NEWMAC title.

4. Trinity (15-3) - The defending national champions haven't seen things come as easily in '09 as they did in '08, but they are still doing pretty well, regardless. Sitting at 15-3 and 6-0 in the NESCAC, it appears the Bantams remain one of the top teams both in the region and in the country. All-Americans Kent Graham and Sean Killeen continue to power the Trinity attack, with both players hitting well over .400 with 4 home runs each. Fellow All-American Jeremiah Bayer hasn't missed a beat on the mound, as the dominating RHP is 5-0 with a 1.78 ERA. With the rest of the NESCAC comparatively weak, it appears the Bantams are on their way to yet another regional tournament.

5. Suffolk (15-4) - The Rams had an interesting week. On Tuesday they knocked off #2 Wheaton 4-2, then knocked off conference rival Johnson and Wales 8-1 in the first game of a doubleheader on Saturday. They followed the strong effort in game one with an absolute stinker in game two, spotting JWU 5 runs in the 1st inning before succumbing 5-3. They righted the ship on Sunday, sweeping Emerson by a combined score of 23-4. As it stands today, 3 of Suffolk's 4 losses have come against clubs who played in regional tournaments in 2007, and they appear to have one of the stronger pitching staffs in the region, as their 3.34 team ERA can attest to. The Rams have six games on the slate this week, all at home, and it is quite possible that they'll go 6-0 in the span. If so, it's safe to say the top four in New England are going to be feeling the pressure, from both Suffolk and...

6. Curry (17-3) - I think it's safe to say that the top 5 clubs and Curry have emerged as the bonafide powers in New England this year. In my opinion, the dropoff between Curry and Southern Maine is a lot closer than the dropoff between Curry and Worcester State, for example. Curry continues to roll right along, sitting a 17-3 with a .385 team batting average. Offensively, they are led by Rick Vail, who has an eye-popping .530 batting average to go along with 6 home runs. It's safe to say he's the front runner for New England Player of the Year right now. 3 others (Tim Sweeney, Jesse Bruinsma, and Ralph Renzulli) are hitting over .400, so offensively, they can hang with anyone. As the old adage goes however, pitching wins championships, and I fear Curry might come up on the short end in that department, as their 5.04 team ERA shows. Still, they're the cream of the crop in the CCC, and should emerge from that conference and contend in Willimantic in May.

7. Williams (10-5) - It's been an interesting season thus far for the Ephs, as they have needed 9 straight wins to get to where they are now at 10-5. Still, any team that can string together 9 straight victories deserves props, and it appears Williams is the best of the rest outside of the Big Six. Although their victories have been less than impressive, 10-5 is 10-5, and the Ephs pose the best threat to Trinity's NESCAC hopes.

8. St. Joe's (ME) (14-7) - The Monks, on the strength of a 5-0 week in which they outscored their opponents 101-8, are making their first appearance in my top 8. Although their schedules is always less than impressive, it is impossible to deny St. Joe's their due right now. Sitting at 14-7 and 7-1 in the GNAC, the Monks look poised to once again make a run at a regional tournament bid. Led by sophomore sensation Ian Lee (.500 average, 24 RBI), the club is hitting a collective .366, although that number is no doubt inflated thanks in part to the shellacking they put on Rivier, Lasell, and Husson this past week. Still, they can hit with anybody. On the mound, it appears Pat Moran has decided to make me look like a genius, albeit a year late. The transfer from UMaine, who I picked as my Pitcher of the Year in the GNAC in 2008, is in his second season in Standish, and has been nothing short of dominant on the mound, sporting a sparkling 4-0 record to go along with his 2.45 ERA and 39 K's in just 36 IP. SJC did drop a game to JWU earlier in the year (as did Suffolk), but it's becoming clearer by the day that Suffolk and St. Joe's are the two horses in that conference. Expect whichever club that doesn't win the automatic bid to receive strong consideration for an at-large.

Just missed: WPI, RIC, Worcester State
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dchevy5 on April 06, 2009, 04:38:43 PM
GNAC

I enjoy reading your rankings and they are pretty much right on.  Just wondering, though, about your just misses- RIC???  Did you mean KSC.  RIC lost double-header to KSC and then were shellacked by Western Ct the next day, while KSC put a hurt on Brandeis.  KSC does have a ways to go, and needs to run off several consecutive wins to regain the respect they had in the pre-season.  A big test next weekend when they visit USM for DH on Saturday.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 06, 2009, 04:44:39 PM
DChevy,

good call. I do try and check up on all the clubs, but it's difficult to keep track of all the teams, who they've beaten, etc. Regarding KSC vs. RIC, that's an oversight on my part, and I actually should have termed the "Just missed" as "Dropped out," since both RIC and WPI were ranked last week, and not this week.

As for Keene, I think they've suffered in rankings like these due mostly to their early season struggles. You're absolutely right though, the Owls have certainly seemed to turn a corner as of late, and as I've contended all along, they have arguably the best offense in the country (I'd put KSC, USM, and ECSU as 1, 1A, and 1B in that regard). I fully expect them to be contending in the LEC tourney, and it wouldn't surprise me if they're close to 30 wins by that time. If they continue to perform, there's no doubt they'll be knocking on the door of my rankings, perhaps even next week.

Thanks for the comments, it's all appreciated.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 06, 2009, 04:46:38 PM
Also, for all the KSC fans, this should brighten your day (I hate this weather) a bit.

New England Divisions III College Baseball Coaches Polls
(Conducted by New England College Baseball Coaches, First Place Votes
in parentheses, followed by record and total points)

Division III
1. Eastern Connecticut 18-2 35 pts.
1. Wheaton 20-3 35 pts.
3. Southern Maine 14-3 30 pts.
4. Trinity 15-3 29 pts.
5. Suffolk 15-4 19 pts.
6. Curry 17-3 14 pts.
7. Rhode Island College 15-8 4 pts.
8. Keene State 11-8 3 pts.
8. Wentworth 17-6-1 3 pts.
8. Western New England 15-9 3 pts.
Also Receiving Votes: Williams (2), St. Joseph's, Me. (1).

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Appears I've overlooked Wentworth and WNEC, as well. Ah well, to each his own, I suppose.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on April 06, 2009, 05:09:04 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on April 06, 2009, 04:46:38 PM
Also, for all the KSC fans, this should brighten your day (I hate this weather) a bit.

New England Divisions III College Baseball Coaches Polls
(Conducted by New England College Baseball Coaches, First Place Votes
in parentheses, followed by record and total points)

Division III
1. Eastern Connecticut 18-2 35 pts.
1. Wheaton 20-3 35 pts.
3. Southern Maine 14-3 30 pts.
4. Trinity 15-3 29 pts.
5. Suffolk 15-4 19 pts.
6. Curry 17-3 14 pts.
7. Rhode Island College 15-8 4 pts.
8. Keene State 11-8 3 pts.
8. Wentworth 17-6-1 3 pts.
8. Western New England 15-9 3 pts.
Also Receiving Votes: Williams (2), St. Joseph's, Me. (1).

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Appears I've overlooked Wentworth and WNEC, as well. Ah well, to each his own, I suppose.

I think you do a great job with your picks and you are right each to his own.  Imagine the work involved with ranking the entire country.....then you have people that bitch about it, each to his own.  I think Maine should be #1 for the same reasons.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DougiesGoinDeep on April 06, 2009, 05:25:54 PM
GNAC,

As always, great analysis.

I said this at the beginning of the season, but the regional at ESCU this year will be absolutely loaded. So much so, that it looks like a team like Southern Maine who if they do not win the LEC, could run the table in the New York regional as an at large and we could easily see 2 New England teams in Wisconsin this year. It may actually be a blessing to be shipped to New York this year and take your chances there, as whoever comes out of the New England regional will definitely have to earn it. It will certainly be an exciting next month, good luck to everyone.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on April 06, 2009, 05:47:50 PM
Quote from: DougiesGoinDeep on April 06, 2009, 05:25:54 PM
GNAC,

As always, great analysis.

I said this at the beginning of the season, but the regional at ESCU this year will be absolutely loaded. So much so, that it looks like a team like Southern Maine who if they do not win the LEC, could run the table in the New York regional as an at large and we could easily see 2 New England teams in Wisconsin this year. It may actually be a blessing to be shipped to New York this year and take your chances there, as whoever comes out of the New England regional will definitely have to earn it. It will certainly be an exciting next month, good luck to everyone.

I think Maine could stay in New England win or lose the LEC, they are going to have 30+ wins.  Keene and ECSU went to the Cape in 07.  What a regional that is going to be, if all goes as planned, ECSU, USM, Wheaton, Trinity, ST. Joe, Suffolk ? ? ? tough tough stuff.  I do agree with you that any one of them may want to get shipped out to NY this year to avoid that murderers row of teams but if they go to NY they without a doubt will still have to earn it. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 06, 2009, 05:50:11 PM
GNAC,
+1K for another great analysis.
Dougies, Can't Agree with you more
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on April 06, 2009, 09:01:07 PM
Wouldn't Trin out of anyone have the best chance of being shipped out of NE?  The NCAA is always looking to save $$ and since USM is 8 hours away from NY and EConn is the host team, it would seem likely that Trinity would be the team to go to the NY regional.

NE is a juggernaut this year.  Keep the title in the region.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on April 06, 2009, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on April 06, 2009, 09:01:07 PM
Wouldn't Trin out of anyone have the best chance of being shipped out of NE?  The NCAA is always looking to save $$ and since USM is 8 hours away from NY and EConn is the host team, it would seem likely that Trinity would be the team to go to the NY regional.

NE is a juggernaut this year.  Keep the title in the region.

I don't know.....but if Trinity wins it's conference and tourney, I don't think they send them, and even if ESCU loses to Maine in the LEC tourney it would be hard to send the host out I think.  ESCU won the LEC tourney in 06 and shipped out although they didn't have a great record.  It could be interesting with some of the decisions the NCAA may have to make at the end of the year.  I know it's half a season away but if things go as planned and the teams are who we think they are it could be interesting come May.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on April 07, 2009, 08:43:42 PM
Williams with a big win over Fordham today...Love to see the DIII's over the DI's!! 

Does a win over a DI give Williams any extra help when it comes down to a possible at large bid?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: John McGraw on April 07, 2009, 09:30:33 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on April 07, 2009, 08:43:42 PM
Williams with a big win over Fordham today...Love to see the DIII's over the DI's!! 

Does a win over a DI give Williams any extra help when it comes down to a possible at large bid?

Nope though obviously it won't hurt them.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 10, 2009, 08:34:42 PM
Checking in on the New England scene once again.

Bridgewater State sweeps Westfield State in a MASCAC doubleheader. Not good for Westfield at all. Westfield falls to 14-9, with a less than stellar 2-4 mark in league play. Bridgewater improves to 13-11, and an impressive 5-1 record in league play.

In GNAC action, Suffolk takes two from lowly Norwich, 7-1 and 20-3. The Rams improve to 19-4 on the season, while Norwich falls to an embarrassing 0-18-1. Suffolk moves into a first place tie with St. Joe's of Maine in the GNAC, with both clubs sitting at 7-1.

It seems upsets are becoming quite regular in New England this season, and we had another today, as Western Connecticut upends #1 Eastern Connecticut 5-3. Eastern falls to 19-5 (3-3 LEC), while WConn improves to 10-11 (3-1 LEC). Not a good loss for Eastern, I'll have more on that in a bit.

Trinity continues to roll, beating Bates 14-2 today. The Bantams improve to 16-3 on the year, and a perfect 7-0 mark in NESCAC play.

Curry continues to impress as well, beating Babson 10-3 today to improve to 21-3. Babson falls to 13-12 with the loss.

Wheaton likewise continues their torrid pace, knocking around WNEC ace Jason Pizzoferrato and emerging with the 7-4 victory. Wheaton improves to 22-3, while WNEC falls to 16-10.

Keene continues on the up and up, winning their 6th straight game today, knocking off Plymouth State 17-0. The Owls improve to 13-8 on the year.

Southern Maine knocked off UMass-Boston 13-12 today in LEC action, as the Huskies improve to 18-3 with the win. With the loss, the Beacons fall to 8-15.

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Interesting turn of events with Western Connecticut knocking off Eastern today. The loss is the Warriors 5th of the year, which is more losses than Wheaton, Trinity, Southern Maine, Curry, and Suffolk have. That's not to say I think all of those teams are better than Eastern's. I don't think that's the case. Nevertheless, it's interesting to note, and makes one wonder if EConn is really deserving of the #1 ranking in New England, nevermind the nation.

With tomorrow's outcomes undecided, I think I'd have to rank those teams as follows;

1. Southern Maine (18-3)
2. Wheaton (22-3)
3. Trinity (16-3)
4. Curry (21-3)
5. Eastern Connecticut (19-5)
6. Suffolk (19-4)
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As I've also stated a number of times on this board, I think those 6 teams are far and away the top six clubs in New England this year.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 13, 2009, 09:50:51 AM
Gnac once again some great analysis on NE.  I could not agree with you more about the top 6 in NE right now.  I was trying to fill out a 7 and 8 after your six.  There was no real clear cut favorites for those spots.  It seems that everytime a potential 7 or 8 top team in NE is about to emerge they will lose and muddle the picture up again.  I dont know if i would have Curry ahead of Eastern though.  Maybe its my LEC bais but regardless of the records i still think that Eastern is a more talented team, and would win head to head against curry.  Curry is very good, however i still think that Eastern is a better team.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 13, 2009, 12:14:20 PM
I think ECSU now has to earn any new respect they get after being beaten by UMD and WestConn.  We will see, but the offense needs to step it up a notch or two.  TCCC looks to have some very competitive teams this year, with WNEC and Curry looking strong.

Hopefully Coach H gets the Warriors back on track soon, or it could look ugly for "TEE" by the time the LEC Tourney/NE Regional rolls around.

Southern Maine, Trinity and Wheaton and WNEC look to be ready to punch thier tickets to post season play at this time.

I hope ECSU gets fired up soon ;)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on April 14, 2009, 08:48:33 PM
Eastern's sweep of RIC yesterday helps stop the downward spiral. It will be interesting to see how they respond at Bridgewater State tomorrow and against UMD on Friday.

Curry shuts out Wheaton today 5-0 to give them another quality win.

Don't forget WPI in the NEWMAC - Fahey with another great pitching line

WPI                    IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF  NP   ERA
--------------------------------------------------------
Conor Fahey.........  8.0  2  0  0  2 10 23 27   -  1.64
Kyle Boucher........  1.0  1  0  0  1  0  3  4   - 11.17

Coast Guard            IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF  NP   ERA
--------------------------------------------------------
Pete Schofield......  3.0  5  9  7  5  1 15 21   -  4.86
Ben Barrett.........  5.0  5  4  2  1  1 20 23   - 10.67
Joe Petry...........  1.0  0  0  0  0  0  3  3   -  3.18

Win - Fahey (4-1).  Loss - Schofield (3-3).  Save - None.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 14, 2009, 09:16:58 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 13, 2009, 12:14:20 PM
I think ECSU now has to earn any new respect they get after being beaten by UMD and WestConn.  We will see, but the offense needs to step it up a notch or two.  TCCC looks to have some very competitive teams this year, with WNEC and Curry looking strong.

Hopefully Coach H gets the Warriors back on track soon, or it could look ugly for "TEE" by the time the LEC Tourney/NE Regional rolls around.

Southern Maine, Trinity and Wheaton and WNEC look to be ready to punch thier tickets to post season play at this time.

I hope ECSU gets fired up soon ;)

ECSU needs to provide some run producction for the 3rd (Fontaine) and 4th (Kuch) in the rotation.  Park needs to recover from his slump, and we need to improve our defense, as .945 ish FP will not cut it in the NCAA Regionals/Nationals
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on April 14, 2009, 09:45:57 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 14, 2009, 09:16:58 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 13, 2009, 12:14:20 PM
I think ECSU now has to earn any new respect they get after being beaten by UMD and WestConn.  We will see, but the offense needs to step it up a notch or two.  TCCC looks to have some very competitive teams this year, with WNEC and Curry looking strong.

Hopefully Coach H gets the Warriors back on track soon, or it could look ugly for "TEE" by the time the LEC Tourney/NE Regional rolls around.

Southern Maine, Trinity and Wheaton and WNEC look to be ready to punch thier tickets to post season play at this time.

I hope ECSU gets fired up soon ;)

ECSU needs to provide some run producction for the 3rd (Fontaine) and 4th (Kuch) in the rotation.  Park needs to recover from his slump, and we need to improve our defense, as .945 ish FP will not cut it in the NCAA Regionals/Nationals

Matt has been on the short end of runs and he has pitch more than well enough to be 4-0 in my opinion.  One defensive play against UMD and one key hit against Wconn and he would be 4-0.  The 4th needs to pitch past the fourth more often.  Losing to Montclair as bad as it was and losing to WNEC as bad as it was is not that hard to take because they are in my opinion quality teams.  Now, not to disparage UMD or WCONN I just dont think we should lose to them this year with this team, so to me those are two bad loses this year.  Now like I said Matt pitched well in both those games and deserved better outcomes based on his game and if ECSu were 23-3 everyone would still feel pretty warm and fuzzy....yes?  SO lets put the two behind us and get going again.  This week is good with a couple days off and then we hit a good stretch of games that will tell us what TEE is this year.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 15, 2009, 10:50:39 PM
I'm a few days late, but here are my weekly rankings. Bit of a shake-up this week.

1. Southern Maine (22-3) - The Huskies continue to roll, as they went 8-0 since my last ranking, where they were also 1st. I still contend they have the most powerful offense in the region (although Curry is making a strong case for themselves, more on that later), and they just continue to win ballgames. The 5.37 team ERA is a bit scary, but when you can hit like they can, it's pretty much a non-factor.

2. Trinity (18-3) - Lost amid all the strong showings and high rankings for New England teams thus far has been Trinity's steady play. While teams like Wheaton and Eastern Connecticut falter a bit, the Bantams just continue to win. They've only played 3 games since the last ranking, but they're sitting at 9-0 in the NESCAC, and should win that conference handily.

3. Curry (24-3) - It's official: the Colonels are for real. 7-0 since the last rankings, the Colonels are tied for 1st in the region in wins with 24, and posted a convincing 5-0 victory over Wheaton yesterday to prove their status as a contender. Statistically, they have the nation's #1 offense, as they're hitting an astounding .387 as a club with 28 home runs. The pitching has also been solid, and shutting out a high-powered Wheaton offense as they did yesterday is certainly something to hang their hat on. Expect the Colonels to make a legitimate run at the CWS this year.

4. Wheaton (24-4) - The Lyons went 4-1 on the week, but that one loss came to Curry, which is why the two teams are ranked where they are. Still, make no mistake about it; Wheaton is a club to be reckoned with. They hit like crazy, have dominated the NEWMAC (9-0), and haven't even pitched to their capabilities yet. If Louie Bernardini can take his game to the levels it was at in 2007, look out.

5. Suffolk (22-5) - The Rams were rolling as of the last ranking, winners of 8 straight games before yesterday, when they suffered a setback to an underrated UMass-Boston club 13-8. They rebounded nicely today however, beating WNEC 6-3 to move their record to 22-5. Tied for 1st in the conference at 9-1 with St. Joe's, Suffolk has a number of impressive victories on their resume, including wins over #3 Wheaton and #19 Keystone. Statistically, they can pitch with anyone in the country (3.05 team ERA), and have swung it well, too (.326 BA). Expect this weekend's double header with St. Joe's to be a barnburner, as Suffolk takes the #1 seed with a split or better, but falls to #3 and a play-in game if they're swept.

6. Eastern CT (21-6) - I'm sure this is not a popular pick among many here, but I think it's justified. Simply put, the Warriors are playing bad baseball. They're 3-4 since the last ranking, with less-than-stellar losses to Western CT and Bridgewater State. Their statistical splits are impressive (.331, 3.38 ERA), but until they right the ship, I don't see how they can be placed ahead of the 5 listed above.

7. St. Joe's (ME) (21-9) - The Monks went 7-2 since the last ranking, and look to be a legitimate contender along with Suffolk in the GNAC. Their offense is deadly (.355 BA), and they also have one of the best pitchers in the region in Pat Moran, a true ace and All-American candidate (5-0, 2.40 ERA, 45 IP, 53 K, 3 BB). As stated earlier, this Sunday's affair up in Standish with Suffolk should be quite the double header, as St. Joe's needs a split or better to avoid the #3 seed.

8. WPI (19-9) - The 8 seed was a toss-up, but with a 4-0 run, it goes to the smart gentlemen from Worcester. WPI has a quality record in a tough conference, and they've also posted convincing wins over St. Joe's, Worcester State, and Trinity. Conor Fahey is another All-American candidate (4-1, 1.64 ERA, 55 IP, 69 K), and they can definitely make some noise in the NEWMAC tournament.

Just missed: Worcester State, Wentworth, WNEC
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEDIII on April 16, 2009, 09:14:18 AM
First off, let me start by saying that you're analysis' of New England are great. You provide everyone with a lot of information on a variety of teams and conferences. However, I have to disagree with you on one thing and that is the review of Curry. I respect the team and what they have done this year, they're offensive numbers are nothing short of outstanding. But to say that they are a legit contender for the CWS is dillusional (sorry).  The CCC is probably the weakest conference in NE, and to the best of my knowledge, in the nation as well. While they have posted 24 wins (a feat in itself), 10 of those wins have come across competition such as New England College, Nichols, Anna Maria and Gordon. I can't fault them for playing the teams they have to but it should be taken into consideration. Another point, Curry has made how many trips to Harwich in the past 6 years? (2 maybe, off the top of my head). Teams like Wheaton, EConn, USM, Trinity are thier year after year and have the experience and depth to play the toughest competition day after day. Curry will make the Regionals in 09' and it wouldn't suprise me if they went two and screw down at EConn.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEDIII on April 16, 2009, 09:23:40 AM
Also, some information I left out. Curry made it's first (ever)appearence to a Regional in 2007. Another interesting fact is that Curry pitched its ace against Wheaton College while WC pitched its 4/5 guy in the rotation (shutting the # 1 ranked offense down through 8 inn). Another indication of a weak schedule...anyway, I just found that to be interesting...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 16, 2009, 09:51:16 AM
I think that any team that makes it to the regionals is a legitamate contender for the CWS.  Yes Curry plays in what might be a weaker conference but the CCC is not the weakest conference in New England let alone the nation.  What about the NAC with powerhouses of Castleton, Johnston State, U-maine Farmington.  THe NAC is much weaker than the CCC. Yes NEC is not a powerhouse but i will tell you that WNEC, Curry, and Roger Williams are solid programs. I must disagree with NEDIII post. 

I think that Curry will have a chance to prove itself in fabolous Willimantic this year.  THey might go two and out but that is true for any team when you get to that level, other than Trinity last year the regionals are pretty competitive from the top team to the 8th team.  Dont believe me?  KSC two years ago played in the regonals final as the 5 seed in the Cape, and USM played in the regional final last year as i think the 5 seed, i could be wrong on thier seed but it was not in the top 3 of the regional.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 16, 2009, 09:52:11 AM
The NECC is pretty weak as well
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEDIII on April 16, 2009, 10:08:19 AM
Making the Regional Finals and going to the show is completely different. While I agree with you that everyone is a contendor, when was the last time an 8 seed went to CWS?? C'mon.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 16, 2009, 10:15:40 AM
Quote from: NEDIII on April 16, 2009, 10:08:19 AM
Making the Regional Finals and going to the show is completely different. While I agree with you that everyone is a contendor, when was the last time an 8 seed went to CWS?? C'mon.

I think the point KSCfan is making though is that Curry isn't an 8 seed. If the regionals were to be seeded today, Curry would be a 4 seed at worst, in my opinion. If they continue winning and roll through the CCC as I expect they should, they could realistically finish at 38-3. With a record like that, they could even sneak in to the top 3 seeds.

It's a testament to how strong this region really is. It's been said before but deserves mention once more; whoever gets shipped to New York is one lucky squad.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 16, 2009, 10:40:02 AM
That may be true about the 8 seed going to the CWS but i dont think that Curry is an 8 seed.  I think that GNAC hit it on the head when he said that Curry is the 4 seed.  If i were to seed today i would have USM at 1 Trinity at 2 and Wheaton at 3 then Curry at 4.

Curry did beat Wheaton the other day and you can say they beat Wheaton's 4 but a win is a win is a win, espically over a team as quality as Wheaton.  I understand your point NEDIII but i think that you might be selling Curry a little short on the quality of team that they are. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rbgosfan on April 16, 2009, 10:44:30 AM
I do not think we should hand Curry the TCCC championship just yet. They are 15-1 in conference but have not played Roger Williams or Wentworth yet. They split with WNEC losing game 1 13-0 (against WNEC's number 5 starter) and then won the second game in extra innings after tying it in the 7th. WNEC has had some bad losses in conference but is getting better and better pitching from the back end of the rotation, which is critical in post season play. Evan Michaud is their #3 and he won national pitcher of the week honors last week. Roger Williams also has a strong team and will be tough come playoff time.

While I do agree that top to bottom the TCCC is not real strong, top 3 or 4 teams can compete with anybody in the region. WNEC has been in Harwich the last 3 years and 4 out of 5 (the first three coming out of the GNAC and last year from the TCCC).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 16, 2009, 12:00:51 PM
I have to agree with KSCfan, TCCC is nowhere near the worst conference in New England. The NAC and NECC are horrid. The competition at the top of most conferences is good. You get beyond the top 3 in most conferences and you would think you were watching fair to poor high school teams.

NESCAC, Trinity running off and hiding(lots of talk on their board how it's a down year)
NEWMAC, Wheaton, 3 game lead over WPI,4 over MIT
GNAC, Suffolk, St. Joe's, J&W are competitive,
TCCC, Curry, WNEC, Wentworth, Roger Williams(that's 4 competive teams)
NECC, Becker,So. Vermont, Elms(Becker & Elms barely competed in the NAC)
NAC, Castleton, Husson(that's it)
MASCAC, Worcester, Bridgewater, MCLA
LEC, probably the deepest conference in New England.

The top of the region can clearly compete with anyone. As it has been said often the team that gets shipped out for the regional may be the luckiest team in the region.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 16, 2009, 02:01:58 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on April 15, 2009, 10:50:39 PM
I'm a few days late, but here are my weekly rankings. Bit of a shake-up this week.

1. Southern Maine (22-3) - The Huskies continue to roll, as they went 8-0 since my last ranking, where they were also 1st. I still contend they have the most powerful offense in the region (although Curry is making a strong case for themselves, more on that later), and they just continue to win ballgames. The 5.37 team ERA is a bit scary, but when you can hit like they can, it's pretty much a non-factor.

2. Trinity (18-3) - Lost amid all the strong showings and high rankings for New England teams thus far has been Trinity's steady play. While teams like Wheaton and Eastern Connecticut falter a bit, the Bantams just continue to win. They've only played 3 games since the last ranking, but they're sitting at 9-0 in the NESCAC, and should win that conference handily.

3. Curry (24-3) - It's official: the Colonels are for real. 7-0 since the last rankings, the Colonels are tied for 1st in the region in wins with 24, and posted a convincing 5-0 victory over Wheaton yesterday to prove their status as a contender. Statistically, they have the nation's #1 offense, as they're hitting an astounding .387 as a club with 28 home runs. The pitching has also been solid, and shutting out a high-powered Wheaton offense as they did yesterday is certainly something to hang their hat on. Expect the Colonels to make a legitimate run at the CWS this year.

4. Wheaton (24-4) - The Lyons went 4-1 on the week, but that one loss came to Curry, which is why the two teams are ranked where they are. Still, make no mistake about it; Wheaton is a club to be reckoned with. They hit like crazy, have dominated the NEWMAC (9-0), and haven't even pitched to their capabilities yet. If Louie Bernardini can take his game to the levels it was at in 2007, look out.

5. Suffolk (22-5) - The Rams were rolling as of the last ranking, winners of 8 straight games before yesterday, when they suffered a setback to an underrated UMass-Boston club 13-8. They rebounded nicely today however, beating WNEC 6-3 to move their record to 22-5. Tied for 1st in the conference at 9-1 with St. Joe's, Suffolk has a number of impressive victories on their resume, including wins over #3 Wheaton and #19 Keystone. Statistically, they can pitch with anyone in the country (3.05 team ERA), and have swung it well, too (.326 BA). Expect this weekend's double header with St. Joe's to be a barnburner, as Suffolk takes the #1 seed with a split or better, but falls to #3 and a play-in game if they're swept.

6. Eastern CT (21-6) - I'm sure this is not a popular pick among many here, but I think it's justified. Simply put, the Warriors are playing bad baseball. They're 3-4 since the last ranking, with less-than-stellar losses to Western CT and Bridgewater State. Their statistical splits are impressive (.331, 3.38 ERA), but until they right the ship, I don't see how they can be placed ahead of the 5 listed above.

7. St. Joe's (ME) (21-9) - The Monks went 7-2 since the last ranking, and look to be a legitimate contender along with Suffolk in the GNAC. Their offense is deadly (.355 BA), and they also have one of the best pitchers in the region in Pat Moran, a true ace and All-American candidate (5-0, 2.40 ERA, 45 IP, 53 K, 3 BB). As stated earlier, this Sunday's affair up in Standish with Suffolk should be quite the double header, as St. Joe's needs a split or better to avoid the #3 seed.

8. WPI (19-9) - The 8 seed was a toss-up, but with a 4-0 run, it goes to the smart gentlemen from Worcester. WPI has a quality record in a tough conference, and they've also posted convincing wins over St. Joe's, Worcester State, and Trinity. Conor Fahey is another All-American candidate (4-1, 1.64 ERA, 55 IP, 69 K), and they can definitely make some noise in the NEWMAC tournament.

Just missed: Worcester State, Wentworth, WNEC

GNAC, another insightful post +1K
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 16, 2009, 08:40:56 PM
Rhode Island college beats a very good Curry team that i have been blogging about all day.  Maybe NEDIII was right!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEDIII on April 17, 2009, 10:23:02 AM
I won't take credit but I was just stating some opinions from outside the box about Curry. Bottom line is, baseball is baseball and any team can beat (upset) any team on any given day.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: mdosfan on April 18, 2009, 10:30:26 PM
Trinity is 66-4 in their last 70 games.  Yikes.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 20, 2009, 01:40:39 PM
I will never be as comprehesive as the legendary TheGNAC but I would like to offer my New England Top 8. I have now had the opportunity to see many of the top teams and feel as if I have a better take on the squads.

1- Trinity - Granted I have not seen them live, but they are the reigning champs and until they show they are beatable they should be the favorite to return to Appleton.

2- USM - Big Sticks. Just enough pitching and Impact players in D'Alfonso and  Burleson. Do not, I repeat do not under estimate USM's pitching staff. If you can run out guys like Therrian and Henry and fill in with Stacy and Eaton ....look out in Gorham.

3-EastConn - Always solid, always in the mix, impact player in Gilblair who looks to me to be in prime shape for a big postseason. My choice to play Texas-Tyler in the Championship game (see post back in February), cban't waiver on that but they must become more consistent to advance from the NE.

4-WPI- What can you say sweep Wheaton and you move up on my board. Also quality win over EConn, Trinity, UMD, hey maybe these guys should be #2 ???

5-Wheaton - Is what it is. Poldelski has them playing well and to me they are the dark horse to go to Appleton.



6 -St. Joe's- Will the hardest working man in D-III had me sold that they were legit, then they ran into the USM BUZZ-Saw. Still deserve a 6 ranking.

7- Suffolk- Solid club with some decent wins. Recent losses to St. Joe's makes one wonder though.

8- WNEC & Curry - Too close to call they should decide this next week in TCCC playoffs.


Barely missing:  Worcester State, Amherst,  Williams,  Roger Williams

Word :P
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on April 20, 2009, 07:51:51 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 20, 2009, 01:40:39 PM
I will never be as comprehesive as the legendary TheGNAC but I would like to offer my New England Top 8. I have now had the opportunity to see many of the top teams and feel as if I have a better take on the squads.

1- Trinity - Granted I have not seen them live, but they are the reigning champs and until they show they are beatable they should be the favorite to return to Appleton.

2- USM - Big Sticks. Just enough pitching and Impact players in D'Alfonso and  Burleson. Do not, I repeat do not under estimate USM's pitching staff. If you can run out guys like Therrian and Henry and fill in with Stacy and Eaton ....look out in Gorham.

3-EastConn - Always solid, always in the mix, impact player in Gilblair who looks to me to be in prime shape for a big postseason. My choice to play Texas-Tyler in the Championship game (see post back in February), cban't waiver on that but they must become more consistent to advance from the NE.

4-WPI- What can you say sweep Wheaton and you move up on my board. Also quality win over EConn, Trinity, UMD, hey maybe these guys should be #2 ???

5-Wheaton - Is what it is. Poldelski has them playing well and to me they are the dark horse to go to Appleton.



6 -St. Joe's- Will the hardest working man in D-III had me sold that they were legit, then they ran into the USM BUZZ-Saw. Still deserve a 6 ranking.

7- Suffolk- Solid club with some decent wins. Recent losses to St. Joe's makes one wonder though.

8- WNEC & Curry - Too close to call they should decide this next week in TCCC playoffs.


Barely missing:  Worcester State, Amherst,  Williams,  Roger Williams

Word :P

Hard to disagree with those picks but I will a little.  Since you take that much stock in USM pitching I'll take them as #1 cause I've seen them hit.

2- ECSU....no need to explain.  Biggest drawback is they have lost to many games to at best average and in some cases less than average pitchers.  The offense is up and down up and down.  Pitching has been steady except for a couple spots.  I know Word must not be sold on Musson with what you saw on Saturday but he is much better than that.  CONSISTENT is a good WORD for this team to adopt. 

I don't think we played WPI, maybe that may change your 4-5 picks.   LOL

3- Trinity- Now, being the Jonah that I am Trinity will cruise to an easy win on Tuesday.  They can beat anyone at any time I'm sure but I also will stick to my earlier thoughts they don't have the staff to win a tournament especially if the hit the losers bracket.

I'll go with the rest as is.  Sorry Alum, ecfaninri and TEE fans.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 20, 2009, 08:16:30 PM
Whale of a prediction there Mr. G.  ;D

Musson was well, not involved in the decision. Would have to see more before I made a comment. I do know that I wish I could be at the F,S,HG vs TEE game on Tuesday.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 20, 2009, 10:20:59 PM
Good predictions. What's everybodies best guess on who loses out on going to Willimantic and who ends up getting shipped out of region?  No one includes a NAC or a MASCAC team in their lists. 7 automatic qualifiers: LEC, NESCAC, NEWMAC, GNAC, TCCC, MASCAC, NAC with 8 going to regional. Which conference doubles up at Eastern? LEC, NEWMAC, GNAC, TCCC? Who gets a trip to NY?  I'm sure with as much talent at the top that someone from NE is shipped to NY as they have recently.

If USM sweeps regular season and LEC Tourney, does LEC get a second team given the inconsistency of ECSU? I would guess that Trinity is the only pick from NESCAC(short of a real shocker in their tourney.)  I would think NEWMAC should probably get 2 unlees Wheaton collapses completely.  GNAC has 2 strong choices but I don't see both going to the regionals. How about TCCC WNEC probably has to win the tourney. Lots of good choices at top of the region it'll be an interesting couple weeks.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rbgosfan on April 21, 2009, 07:05:51 AM
I think USM and ECSU are both in for sure. WNEC has too many in region losses for an at large but if they beat Curry in TCCC tournament, I could see Curry getting an at large.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 21, 2009, 09:29:41 AM
I think many are over-looking WPI.

I'll say again, they beat Trinity, they just swept Wheaton ::). No love in the national poll, all look to records and Curry has an amazing record and shut-out Wheaton. But WPI has beat some of the best in New England.

Sullen Maine rises to the top of the food-chain as TEE slips to 8. Can anyone touch the Muskies this year???

Through games of April 19, 2009
# School (1st votes) Rec. Pts Prev.
1 Southern Maine (10) 28-3 584 5
2 Salisbury (4) 33-5 560 2
3 Pomona-Pitzer (7) 31-3 557 8
4 St. Scholastica (2) 24-2 528 6
5 Millsaps (1) 32-6 525 1
6 Trinity (Conn.) 21-3 500 7
7 Texas-Tyler 32-7 470 4
8 Eastern Connecticut (1) 24-6 421 10
9 Kean 28-7 418 12
10 Heidelberg 26-6 412 9
11 Wooster 28-7 396 11
12 Wheaton (Mass.) 26-7 332 3
13 Cal Lutheran 27-7 312 15
14 Keystone 29-4 263 19
15 St. Thomas 21-6 259 13
16 Curry 28-4 245 20
17 Carthage 20-5 243 22
18 Buena Vista 23-6 155 14
19 George Fox 29-8 108 21
20 Linfield 27-9 105 16
21 Shenandoah 31-8 104 17
22 Ithaca 22-6 87 --
23 Pacific Lutheran 27-8 70 --
24 Wilkes 25-6 69 --
25 UW-Whitewater 18-9


Word 8)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 21, 2009, 10:58:32 AM
Certainly a case can be made for WPI, but I'm not sure they get an at-large bid if they don't win the NEWMAC. I'm fairly certain Curry will.

Here's how I see the regionals shaking out right now.

NEWMAC: I think Wheaton is the clear-cut favorite here, even if WPI did sweep them. The Lyons are just the better, more experienced club, and I'm not going to argue with history. Wheaton gets the automatic bid here.

LEC: #1 Southern Maine has this locked up, I think. Regardless, Eastern Connecticut's reputation should get them a bid by itself, but I think they're good enough to receive one anyway. Expect USM to receive the automatic bid, with Eastern earning the at-large bid.

CCC: I'm going to disagree with Word's sentiments here and say that Curry has this locked up. I've seen Curry and WNEC play this year, and I have to say Curry is the better team. They have the best offense in the country, and they also have a couple studs at the top of their rotation. Curry wins the automatic bid from the CCC.

GNAC: This is where I'm wavering. Earlier, I would have said Suffolk was the favorite in this conference, and even if they didn't win, they'd still have an at-large bid wrapped up. After their last week, though (3-3), I'm not so sure. They dropped a game to UMass-Boston on Tuesday, and then dropped two to St. Joe's on Sunday. Still, I think their overall resume might put them into contention for an at-large (wins over Wheaton at #2, Keystone, WNEC). Regardless though, I'm sticking with the Rams to win the GNAC's automatic bid.

NESCAC: Pretty much the surest bet there is... Trinity takes the NESCAC, no at-large's awarded.

NAC: Don't know too much about the NAC this year, but with an 11-1 conference mark, I'd say Castleton State has this in the bag. No at-large's awarded.

MASCAC: Worcester State seems to be the class of the MASCAC this year, with a 12-0 mark in conference. At 23-10, their overall record puts them near the middle of the pack for at-large contenders, but they could earn one if they lose the conference tourney. Still, I expect Worcester State to win the conference. No at-large's awarded.

------------------

Now, that's all just conjecture on my part. Assuming everything shakes out as written above, and the region receives two at-large bids (as in 2008), I see the at-large bids being awarded to:

1. Eastern Connecticut
2. WPI
----------
3. WNEC

Now, let's say St. Joe's wins the GNAC, as they are the #1 seed in the tournament and will be hosting. If that happens, I could see this:

1. Eastern Connecticut
2. Suffolk
----------
3. WPI
4. WNEC

Now, let's say WNEC upsets Curry.

1. Curry
2. Eastern Connecticut
----------
3. Suffolk
4. WPI
5. WNEC


Let's assume WPI upsets Wheaton, and the rest go as-is.

1. Wheaton
2. Eastern Connecticut
----------
3. Suffolk
4. WNEC

So as you can see, there are a number of possibilities here. This is just one person's opinion, and I'd love to here your thoughts. Also keep in mind, the selection process is mostly statistical, as the committee factors in heavily winning percentage, opponent's winning percentage, and opponent's opponent's winning percentage.

Also, for those with more knowledge than I concerning the selection process, is there any chance New England is awarded 3 at-large bids this year, considering how strong the region has been (5 clubs in the top 25)? I'd be interested to hear those thoughts, too.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 21, 2009, 02:54:26 PM
GNAC,

Your amazing!! +1K AGAIN!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on April 21, 2009, 03:04:44 PM
TheGNAC
Pretty good assessment concerning automatics and at- large bids. Remember last year Keene St. and USM went to Harwich and ECSU went to the Auburn regional. That's only 2 at-large bids, however you would have to see if the Auburn Regional has 1 or 2 automatic bids. If they do and if USM remains @#1 and Eastern stays in the top ten and is the host site it would be really hard to send them out. Then is would be between the loser of Trinity/WPI or Curry/WNEC.  If WPI and or WNEC wins their tournment and Trinity and Curry are still ranked in the top 15/16 - there is a strong case for 3 at-large bids.

At the NY region last year  - You has Ithaca ( Pool B) Cortland, Rensellear, Farmingdale, and 4 other teams from outside the Region - Eastern Ct- NE, Montclair St. -Mid Atlantic, Grove City and Ohio Wesleyan from the Mid East.
Grove City made it last year with a 18-16 record winning the President's Athletic Conference.Keep in mind that the Mid Atlantic Region has 8 teams, the NE region has 8 teams and the Mid East region only has 6 teams.

Realistically speaking, With USM, Trinity, Wheaton, Eastern, Curry all in the top 20 in the country, the committee is going to have a hard time not finding a place for any of these teams - even if they have to travel. That's if they don't win their conference. That means if WNEC (23-11), WPI(21-9)win their conference - Wheaton and Curry will be looking for a slot at- large.   With two weeks left - a lot can happen. But I do think 3 at large teams going elsewhere from NE is a possibility.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 21, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on April 21, 2009, 03:04:44 PM
TheGNAC
Pretty good assessment concerning automatics and at- large bids. Remember last year Keene St. and USM went to Harwich and ECSU went to the Auburn regional. That's only 2 at-large bids, however you would have to see if the Auburn Regional has 1 or 2 automatic bids. If they do and if USM remains @#1 and Eastern stays in the top ten and is the host site it would be really hard to send them out. Then is would be between the loser of Trinity/WPI or Curry/WNEC.  If WPI and or WNEC wins their tournment and Trinity and Curry are still ranked in the top 15/16 - there is a strong case for 3 at-large bids.

At the NY region last year  - You has Ithaca ( Pool B) Cortland, Rensellear, Farmingdale, and 4 other teams from outside the Region - Eastern Ct- NE, Montclair St. -Mid Atlantic, Grove City and Ohio Wesleyan from the Mid East.
Grove City made it last year with a 18-16 record winning the President's Athletic Conference.Keep in mind that the Mid Atlantic Region has 8 teams, the NE region has 8 teams and the Mid East region only has 6 teams.

Realistically speaking, With USM, Trinity, Wheaton, Eastern, Curry all in the top 20 in the country, the committee is going to have a hard time not finding a place for any of these teams - even if they have to travel. That's if they don't win their conference. That means if WNEC (23-11), WPI(21-9)win their conference - Wheaton and Curry will be looking for a slot at- large.   With two weeks left - a lot can happen. But I do think 3 at large teams going elsewhere from NE is a possibility.


If you're right, and New England receives 3 at-large bids, the likelihood of two New England teams making the World Series markedly increases. I'm fairly sure that any of the top 8 in New England could make a serious run at winning the New York regional.

It should be a very interesting 3 weeks.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on April 21, 2009, 04:31:25 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on April 21, 2009, 03:04:44 PM
TheGNAC
Pretty good assessment concerning automatics and at- large bids. Remember last year Keene St. and USM went to Harwich and ECSU went to the Auburn regional. That's only 2 at-large bids, however you would have to see if the Auburn Regional has 1 or 2 automatic bids. If they do and if USM remains @#1 and Eastern stays in the top ten and is the host site it would be really hard to send them out. Then is would be between the loser of Trinity/WPI or Curry/WNEC.  If WPI and or WNEC wins their tournment and Trinity and Curry are still ranked in the top 15/16 - there is a strong case for 3 at-large bids.

At the NY region last year  - You has Ithaca ( Pool B) Cortland, Rensellear, Farmingdale, and 4 other teams from outside the Region - Eastern Ct- NE, Montclair St. -Mid Atlantic, Grove City and Ohio Wesleyan from the Mid East.


Grove City made it last year with a 18-16 record winning the President's Athletic Conference.Keep in mind that the Mid Atlantic Region has 8 teams, the NE region has 8 teams and the Mid East region only has 6 teams.

Realistically speaking, With USM, Trinity, Wheaton, Eastern, Curry all in the top 20 in the country, the committee is going to have a hard time not finding a place for any of these teams - even if they have to travel. That's if they don't win their conference. That means if WNEC (23-11), WPI(21-9)win their conference - Wheaton and Curry will be looking for a slot at- large.   With two weeks left - a lot can happen. But I do think 3 at large teams going elsewhere from NE is a possibility.


Realistically, don't you think 3 NE teams being shipped elsewhere is incredibly remote?????
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 21, 2009, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: RSSmith on April 21, 2009, 04:31:25 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on April 21, 2009, 03:04:44 PM
TheGNAC
Pretty good assessment concerning automatics and at- large bids. Remember last year Keene St. and USM went to Harwich and ECSU went to the Auburn regional. That's only 2 at-large bids, however you would have to see if the Auburn Regional has 1 or 2 automatic bids. If they do and if USM remains @#1 and Eastern stays in the top ten and is the host site it would be really hard to send them out. Then is would be between the loser of Trinity/WPI or Curry/WNEC.  If WPI and or WNEC wins their tournment and Trinity and Curry are still ranked in the top 15/16 - there is a strong case for 3 at-large bids.

At the NY region last year  - You has Ithaca ( Pool B) Cortland, Rensellear, Farmingdale, and 4 other teams from outside the Region - Eastern Ct- NE, Montclair St. -Mid Atlantic, Grove City and Ohio Wesleyan from the Mid East.


Grove City made it last year with a 18-16 record winning the President's Athletic Conference.Keep in mind that the Mid Atlantic Region has 8 teams, the NE region has 8 teams and the Mid East region only has 6 teams.

Realistically speaking, With USM, Trinity, Wheaton, Eastern, Curry all in the top 20 in the country, the committee is going to have a hard time not finding a place for any of these teams - even if they have to travel. That's if they don't win their conference. That means if WNEC (23-11), WPI(21-9)win their conference - Wheaton and Curry will be looking for a slot at- large.   With two weeks left - a lot can happen. But I do think 3 at large teams going elsewhere from NE is a possibility.


Realistically, don't you think 3 NE teams being shipped elsewhere is incredibly remote?????

I apologize. What I meant to say is that I could see 3 New England teams receiving at-large bids, with 2 going to New England and 1 to New York.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 21, 2009, 07:00:05 PM
TheGNAC,
   Another great analysis. There certainly is a good case for 3 at large bids. Plenty of strong deserving teams.  Excellent assessment of at large possibilities. Always enjoy your insight.

  One interesting scenario to throw out and muddy the water a little more: what if someone else was to win the LEC tourney? I know it's very remote but what do you think happens if USM or ECSU were to lose the tourney? USM definitely still goes but does ECSU and which one goes to NY? I can't imagine they leave 3 LEC teams in 1 region.

   Just some additional thoughts and possibilities to fill the time while waiting for everything to play out.

   It'll be an interesting couple of weeks.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on April 21, 2009, 09:27:26 PM
Quote from: Stump on April 21, 2009, 07:00:05 PM
TheGNAC,
   Another great analysis. There certainly is a good case for 3 at large bids. Plenty of strong deserving teams.  Excellent assessment of at large possibilities. Always enjoy your insight.

  One interesting scenario to throw out and muddy the water a little more: what if someone else was to win the LEC tourney? I know it's very remote but what do you think happens if USM or ECSU were to lose the tourney? USM definitely still goes but does ECSU and which one goes to NY? I can't imagine they leave 3 LEC teams in 1 region.

   Just some additional thoughts and possibilities to fill the time while waiting for everything to play out.

   It'll be an interesting couple of weeks.

Good thoughts Stump.  This is the biggest week of the year for ECSU by far.  They can't slip like they did a couple weeks ago and if they do they will have to win the LEC tournament to get in. So many good teams in NE and if we get a upset or two with the autos it could get ugly. I believe the last time ECSU hosted the regional they did not get to play in it.     
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: mainefan on April 22, 2009, 06:24:23 AM
I understand that the regionals will be in Eastern but what are the dates for the tournament?
Also where are the nationals and what are the dates for it?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 22, 2009, 08:01:38 AM
Regionals: May 13-17 ECSU
Nationals: May 22-26 Grand Chute, Wi.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 22, 2009, 04:08:49 PM
Info on the NCAA New England Regional Tournament @ ECSU Baseball Complex, Mansfield CT.  See the Internet video/other arrangements in bold.

Web site: http://www.littleeast.com/sports/bsb/newenglandregional/index

April 20, 2009

Eastern Connecticut, Little East Co-Host 2009 NCAA Division III Baseball New England Regional
NORTH DARTMOUTH, Mass. - The NCAA Division III Baseball Committee has chosen Eastern Connecticut State University and the Little East Conference to co-host the New England Region of the 2009 NCAA Division III Baseball Tournament. The Eastern Baseball Stadium in Mansfield, Conn. is just one of eight pre-determined sites for the national tournament field.

"The conference office is looking forward to assisting Eastern Connecticut in hosting the NCAA Division III Baseball New England Region, "Commissioner Jonathan C. Harper said. "It is our expectation that this regional will be a first-class event for student-athletes, coaches, parents and fans that will travel to Mansfield."

The Warriors will serve as the host institution for the 16th time in the 34-year history of the championship. The Eastern Baseball Stadium opened in April 1, 1998, and has hosted the New England Regional three prior times. The stadium is located just over the Willimantic city line, one-half mile north of the main campus.

The NCAA Division III Baseball Selection Committee is scheduled to announce the pairings for each of the eight regional fields the morning of Monday, May 11. The regional tournament will begin on Wednesday, May 13 and the champion will be crowned on Sunday, May 17. The championship team from the New England Region will advance to the 2009 NCAA Division III Championship Round in Appleton, Wisconsin.

If you are unable to make the trip to Mansfield, Conn., you can follow all the action live on the Little East Conference Web site. The tournament championship page will provide full coverage of the New England Region with a link for real-time statistics and video broadcast for each of the games. The Eastern Connecticut sports information staff will be running live in-game statistics, while Bridgewater Television (BTV9) will be producing each broadcast.   

From 1976 through 1990, the national tournament was comprised of six-regional fields with the champion of each region advancing the NCAA Division III Championship Round. The Northeast and New York Regional Tournaments were established in 1991, expanding the field to the current-day eight-regional format. The New England tournament has been hosted by just three institutions besides Eastern Connecticut: The University of Southern Maine at both its on-campus facility in Gorham and at Hadlock Field in Portland - the home of the Double A Eastern League franchise, the Eastern Collegiate Athletic Conference (ECAC) at Whitehouse Field in Harwich, Mass., and Wesleyan University at Palmer Field in Middletown, Conn. Since 1998, the regional tournament has been staged in either Mansfield or Harwich.

Other sites for the 2009 NCAA Division III Regional are as follows: Augustana College (Ill.) (Central Region), Adrian College (Mideast Region), University of Wisconsin-Oshkosch (Midwest Region), State University of College at Old Westbury and the Skyline Conference (New York Region), Salisbury University (South Region), and Linfield College (West Region). The Mid-Atlantic Region has yet to be assigned.



Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: soxfan42585 on April 22, 2009, 09:27:41 PM
ive been dormant on here this season, but the analysis is awesome.  I'm a mainah- so I'm pulling for maine teams... the GNAC, do you see SJC getting an atlarge bid if they take suffolk to double elim and win out against keene, usm and bates?  USM is in.  How did Bowdoin fare this year?  Does the NAC have an auto bid?  if so, whats that conference look like?  Havent heard much from there, but probably for good reason.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 23, 2009, 08:14:29 AM
Quote from: soxfan42585 on April 22, 2009, 09:27:41 PM
ive been dormant on here this season, but the analysis is awesome.  I'm a mainah- so I'm pulling for maine teams... the GNAC, do you see SJC getting an atlarge bid if they take suffolk to double elim and win out against keene, usm and bates?  USM is in.  How did Bowdoin fare this year?  Does the NAC have an auto bid?  if so, whats that conference look like?  Havent heard much from there, but probably for good reason.

soxfan,

Good to have you back. 

Here are Conferences with winners who auto qualify:  NAC Conference is included

Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
American Southwest Conference
Centennial Conference
College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
Commonwealth Coast Conference
Great Northeast Athletic Conference
Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Liberty League
Little East Conference
MAC Commonwealth Conference
MAC Freedom Conference
Massachusetts State College Athletic Conference
Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
Midwest Conference
Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
New England Small College Athletic Conference
New England Women's and Men's Athletic Conference
New Jersey Athletic Conference
North Atlantic Conference
North Coast Athletic Conference
North Eastern Athletic Conference
Northwest Conference
Ohio Athletic Conference
Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Pennsylvania Athletic Conference
Presidents' Athletic Conference
Skyline Conference
Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference;
Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
State University of New York Athletic Conference
USA South Athletic Conference
Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 23, 2009, 08:44:35 AM
This is the last year NAC has an AQ. In 2010, they are partnering with NEAC and the AQ in baseball will be through the NEAC. The two leagues will play separate division schedules and then the divisions will meet for the qualifier tourney.  I believe NECC has another year before they cn qualify for an automatic qualifier so next year there will only be 7 AQ's in NE
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 23, 2009, 05:05:26 PM
With less AQ for the tournament will that mean more pool C at large bids for NE?  Or other teams getting shipped in? 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 23, 2009, 08:43:43 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 20, 2009, 01:40:39 PM
I will never be as comprehesive as the legendary TheGNAC but I would like to offer my New England Top 8. I have now had the opportunity to see many of the top teams and feel as if I have a better take on the squads.

1- Trinity - Granted I have not seen them live, but they are the reigning champs and until they show they are beatable they should be the favorite to return to Appleton.

2- USM - Big Sticks. Just enough pitching and Impact players in D'Alfonso and  Burleson. Do not, I repeat do not under estimate USM's pitching staff. If you can run out guys like Therrian and Henry and fill in with Stacy and Eaton ....look out in Gorham.

3-EastConn - Always solid, always in the mix, impact player in Gilblair who looks to me to be in prime shape for a big postseason. My choice to play Texas-Tyler in the Championship game (see post back in February), cban't waiver on that but they must become more consistent to advance from the NE.

4-WPI- What can you say sweep Wheaton and you move up on my board. Also quality win over EConn, Trinity, UMD, hey maybe these guys should be #2 ???

5-Wheaton - Is what it is. Poldelski has them playing well and to me they are the dark horse to go to Appleton.



6 -St. Joe's- Will the hardest working man in D-III had me sold that they were legit, then they ran into the USM BUZZ-Saw. Still deserve a 6 ranking.

7- Suffolk- Solid club with some decent wins. Recent losses to St. Joe's makes one wonder though.

8- WNEC & Curry - Too close to call they should decide this next week in TCCC playoffs.


Barely missing:  Worcester State, Amherst,  Williams,  Roger Williams

Word :P

First Regional Poll hit today--> Can't argue with the results except to say, WPI swept Wheaton and took the regular season title in the WETHCTI (What Ever The Hell Conference They're In) NEWMAC so I still think they should rank above the Wheaties.

New England Region
1. Southern Maine 28-3 23-2
2. Trinity (Conn.) 21-3 21-1
3. Wheaton (Mass.) 25-7 22-6
4. Eastern Connecticut 22-6 19-6
5. WPI 21-9 20-6
6. Curry 28-4 24-3
7. Suffolk 24-7 21-6
8. Worcester State 23-10 23-7
9. Western New England 23-12 20-11
10. St. Joseph's (Maine) 25-10 22-6

Word :D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 25, 2009, 09:30:55 PM
Babson sweeps Wheaties out of the WETHCTPI ::) :o :o

So a surprise entrant (Baboons or Brains) from that Conference will require either Wheaties or WPI to get there (NCAAs) via-at-large.

ECAC could include some pretty strong teams this year:

WPI and/or Wheaton
Curry or WNEC
KSC and/or EastConn

Word 8)


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 26, 2009, 08:29:53 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 25, 2009, 09:30:55 PM
Babson sweeps Wheaties out of the WETHCTPI ::) :o :o

So a surprise entrant (Baboons or Brains) from that Conference will require either Wheaties or WPI to get there (NCAAs) via-at-large.

ECAC could include some pretty strong teams this year:

WPI and/or Wheaton
Curry or WNEC
KSC and/or EastConn

Word 8)




That certainly complicates the selection process.


LEC: USM (unless there's a repeat of NEWMAC tourney)
NESCAC: Trinity (same disclaimer as LEC)
TCCC: Curry (same disclaimer)
MASCAC: Worcester State
NEWMAC: Babson/MIT(finals today)
GNAC: St. Joe's/Suffolk(finals today)
NAC: Castleton

Wild Cards: ECSU, WNEC, Wheaton, WPI, ST. Joe's/Suffok

ECAC could end up being almost as strong a field as NCAA. (ECSU/KSC?, WNEC, St. Joe's/Suffolk, Wheaton/WPI) You could make a pretty good regional field out of just those teams and it looks like at least 4 of those are probably looking at ECAC bids after it all sorts out.   Let's make a second regional field and take over the NY regional ;) ;)

Now just imagine the possibilites if there is another darkhorse winner in LEC, NESCAC and/or TCCC.(long shot, true, but who thought neither Wheaton or WPI would make finals of NEWMAC) :o


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on April 26, 2009, 09:48:06 AM
Stump....
You're right - double WETHCTPI..... It is going to be a long wait until May 10th for the at-large bids to be released for Wheaton and WPI  ... Former #1 Millsaps in the South Region has that same wait. But here in New England if another surprise happens in the LEC ( I only think Keene St has the depth for that possibility) or in the TCCC with WNEC and Curry battling. At - Large bids are going to be tough to be had.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on April 26, 2009, 01:22:39 PM
Babson punches it's ticket to the Regionals with a 6-3 win over MIT. Go Beavers.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 26, 2009, 01:54:01 PM
Quote from: 363dp on April 26, 2009, 01:22:39 PM
Babson punches it's ticket to the Regionals with a 6-3 win over MIT. Go Beavers.

Congrats to the Babson Beavers and their coaches Wally and Theodore Cleaver for gnawing their way through the WETHCTPI.

Word ;D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dchevy5 on April 26, 2009, 04:55:50 PM
I would not be shocked (deliriously happy, yes, but not shocked) if Keene State made a strong bid in the LEC tournament.  Things are upside down enough with Babson winning the NEWMAC,  but wouldn't KSC winning the LEC be, well, great?  This has been the craziest year I can remember in the LEC, and nothing is a given.
It should be fun!!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 26, 2009, 05:16:01 PM
Here is kind of a curveball of a question but I ask anyway.

I'd be interested in knowing how many of the schools/conferences have tourneys that conflict with academic Finals.

Word, what the hell is wrong with you bringing up schroool on an af-e-lete board. ::)

The reason for the question comes from exposure to the TCCC where several schools have strict rules which do not allow players to miss class for games, i.e. Colby Sawyer.

I'd be interested in feedback.

Word 8)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: JustAFan on April 26, 2009, 06:09:16 PM
St Joe's scores 2 in the top of the 9th to hand Suffolk its first tournament loss 6-5 earlier this afternoon in the finals of the GNAC tournament and force an "if" game that's currently underway.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on April 26, 2009, 07:02:25 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 26, 2009, 05:16:01 PM
Here is kind of a curveball of a question but I ask anyway.

I'd be interested in knowing how many of the schools/conferences have tourneys that conflict with academic Finals.

Word, what the hell is wrong with you bringing up schroool on an af-e-lete board. ::)

The reason for the question comes from exposure to the TCCC where several schools have strict rules which do not allow players to miss class for games, i.e. Colby Sawyer.

I'd be interested in feedback.

Word 8)

The Centennial Conference will not permit games to be played during exams.  If the conference tournament is not completed by the Monday before exams start on Tuesday, the tournament is halted and the automatic bid is awarded by an alternative method (www.centennial.org).  In order to play any game during the exam period, a school has to get a waiver from the conference.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: JustAFan on April 26, 2009, 07:32:31 PM
Suffolk wins the "if" game and the GNAC title 15-6 over St. Joseph's.  Complete game win by Torres from Suffolk.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 26, 2009, 08:48:00 PM
Congrats to Suffolk. well pitched game by Torres.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 26, 2009, 08:58:09 PM
Great time of the  year guys as conference tournaments are out and about.  Already some conference upsets with Babson winning (congrats) and now Suffolk which is not really an upset punching thier ticket.  My question is how many pool C bids will New England get?  2 or 3 with the third team shipped out to New York. Now what if we see upsets in the LEC and or NESAC.  Could leave a very good team outside looking in.  The NE regional is shaping up to be a very good one, and look forward to seeing more conference tournament action
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on April 30, 2009, 07:39:18 PM
 ::)  I'm new to D3 boards this year, so, fair game for all other "in the know."   I have read all the New England discussions/comments over the past 2 seasons however and have now seen enough Babson snubbing and ridiculing.  Remember last season, when these beavers (Ward, June Wally and "the Beave") were left out of the invitations, by the powers to be?   There were many whom felt Babson was one of the top 3 "just out"/bubble teams even though they are 8-5 vs "The Wheaties" over the last few seasons.....including, "YES" , 3 of 4 this year---and the NEWMAC conference tourney rounds 2 and 3 sweeping of the ? # 3, 6, 8. 12. 15?? team in the U.S. IN D3 STILL, CURRENTLY?   If anyone chiming in on these boards watched a few NEWMAC games, there'd be much fewer boards loaded with Wheaties praise and much more praise for Babson and W.P.I this year.   Of course, the NEWMAC tourney, which Babson swept through 4-0 with 2 wins over Wheaton, to take them out,single handedly... (and yet Babson is still not ranked in TOP 25 Nationally, nor in Top 10 IN NEW ENGLAND even???)  Obviously, like everything else, politics must be involved in the D3 ranking system....
WPI is number 6 or 7 in New England now, are they?---and Wheaton somehow still shows up at # 4, or 5 is it?   Hmmm..  I guess the NEWMAC tourney was a fluke?    Let's see---yesterday's scores----ECSU 11-0 over those same, highly ranked, never to be moved from TOP 5 NEW ENGLAND regional rankings/ Wheaties ?    Someone involved in the invite process needs to pay a little closer attn to New England, in general maybe?  They also seem to consider this the $#%@ CONFERENCE....?   
Last Year's champ but have been a fluke also---wasn't Trinity about 43-0 going into the National finals?     Wheaton is ranked right nexto to them, while Babson doesn't get 1 vote for top 10 in New England?    I guess their out of conference schedule should be tougher next year, as they ONLY played, Southern Maine, TRINITY, Tufts, Curry, Rhode Island Coll, ECSU and Keene State maybe this year and/or last year?   Let's not forget 4 games vs Wheaton and 2 more vs W.P.I. this year...   Everyone, please Stop THE WHEATON BIAS, ALL THE WAY FROM THE TOP OF THE D3 committee, down to us know nothing, New England fans......  It's like N.Y. Yankee praise.....WHICH WAS ALSO APPROPRIATE---WHEN THEY WERE WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS.      Sorry, if my 1st entry seems a little harsh....it's not aimed at anyone in specific, just a little tired of 2 years of reading nothing but, "breakfast of champions" praise....    I think they are averaging about 4 errors per game the past 3 weeks---"crunch time??" 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2009, 08:12:02 PM
Welcome moc...

Let me address your questions...



Quote from: moc323 on April 30, 2009, 07:39:18 PM
::)  I'm new to D3 boards this year, so, fair game for all other "in the know."   I have read all the New England discussions/comments over the past 2 seasons however and have now seen enough Babson snubbing and ridiculing.  Remember last season, when these beavers (Ward, June Wally and "the Beave") were left out of the invitations, by the powers to be?  There were only 14 at-large bids last season to award to the runners-up.  It is not that hard to be a good team and stay home. There were many whom felt Babson was one of the top 3 "just out"/bubble teams even though they are 8-5 vs "The Wheaties" over the last few seasons.....including, "YES" , 3 of 4 this year---and the NEWMAC conference tourney rounds 2 and 3 sweeping of the ? # 3, 6, 8. 12. 15?? team in the U.S. IN D3 STILL, CURRENTLY?   Babson was #8 in the first New England Regional Rankings in 2008.  Good but not stellar.  Mathematically, top quartile of D-III (top 90 teams) for sure. If anyone chiming in on these boards watched a few NEWMAC games, there'd be much fewer boards loaded with Wheaties praise and much more praise for Babson and W.P.I this year.   Of course, the NEWMAC tourney, which Babson swept through 4-0 with 2 wins over Wheaton, to take them out,single handedly... (and yet Babson is still not ranked in TOP 25 Nationally, nor in Top 10 IN NEW ENGLAND even???)  Obviously, like everything else, politics must be involved in the D3 ranking system.... Actually the top 25 in only reflective of 7% of D3.  Plenty of good teams are left out.  The season is still young.
WPI is number 6 or 7 in New England now, are they?---and Wheaton somehow still shows up at # 4, or 5 is it?   Hmmm..  I guess the NEWMAC tourney was a fluke?    Let's see---yesterday's scores----ECSU 11-0 over those same, highly ranked, never to be moved from TOP 5 NEW ENGLAND regional rankings/ Wheaties ?    Someone involved in the invite process needs to pay a little closer attn to New England, in general maybe?  They also seem to consider this the $#%@ CONFERENCE....?   
Last Year's champ but have been a fluke also---wasn't Trinity about 43-0 going into the National finals?     Wheaton is ranked right nexto to them, while Babson doesn't get 1 vote for top 10 in New England?    I guess their out of conference schedule should be tougher next year, as they ONLY played, Southern Maine, TRINITY, Tufts, Curry, Rhode Island Coll, ECSU and Keene State maybe this year and/or last year?   Let's not forget 4 games vs Wheaton and 2 more vs W.P.I. this year...   Everyone, please Stop THE WHEATON BIAS, ALL THE WAY FROM THE TOP OF THE D3 committee, down to us know nothing, New England fans......  It's like N.Y. Yankee praise.....WHICH WAS ALSO APPROPRIATE---WHEN THEY WERE WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS.      Sorry, if my 1st entry seems a little harsh....it's not aimed at anyone in specific, just a little tired of 2 years of reading nothing but, "breakfast of champions" praise....    I think they are averaging about 4 errors per game the past 3 weeks---"crunch time??"  Babson is on the radar screens, like another 6 or 8 teams.  Adrian was much the same way last year coming out of nowhere to make it to the Series.

Welcome and good luck to Babson!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on April 30, 2009, 08:35:20 PM
thank you for addressing my initial posy, Ralph.   You are correct about Babson last year, of course---and about many teams being bubbled out, as always.  I also don't blame you for addressing my Wheaton bashing in my 1st post.  Please understand----I wouldn't bash Wheaton--a solid program x 11 years of NEWMAC, as we all know.....but----to add to my point about their "permanent place" kept for them in top 5 New England, no matter what they do---I just saw today's D3 headlines now----UMass Dartmouth, at a whopping 12-24 overall, just came back TODAY with an 11 run outburst to beat the "breakfast of champions"/yes, the higly ranked Wheaties---at Norton, Mass...on the Wheaties home field no less....
maybe the 3rd Regional rankings next week, will show Wheaton move up a few spots???    I'm hoping and thinking you have nothing to do with regional rankings?  please say you don't?  I honestly do not know your involvement, if any?      Are you one whom believes they should still be # 4-5 in New England, above 2 teams in their conference which beat them head to head this season 5 games to 3 ?      I'LL TONE DOWN THE LONGER I'M ON THESE BOARDS, JUST WAITED FAR TOO LONG TO JOIN IN MAYBE...:))       BABSON was the 1st team to beat Wheaton in the conference reg season last year--remember?   This yr W.P.I swept Wheaton, the day after Babson gave Wheaton it's 1st conf loss (they went from 9-0 to 9-3 in 2 days) mianly because Wheaton didn't have to play these 2 teams until the last week of conference play....   Then Babson beat Wheaties 2 more times in back-to-back days of Newmac tourney........and, still no major movement down by Wheaton, nor no sign of Babson on the rankings radar either?   Babson did have a couple key injuries and they lost games they shouldn't have....but---in a short tourney with top 6-8 teams, they have 4 nice starters whom can pitch with anyone......    You must admit----most of the Wheaton praise comes from their history----so, the D3 committee probably doesn't see enough NEWMAC games to know both W.P.I. and Babson are legit, while Wheaton should be one of the 1st teams you cross off, as upset bait, in the Regionals----IF they are invited.   It would be a tragedy if they are invited over WNEC, W.P.I. and/or Curry     The bias is seen everywhere in New England----as, even though Babson, then W.P.I. both took Wheaton off their perch, the NEWMAC final standings still show Wheaton on top of W.P.I.    Both were 9-3 in conf and W.P.I. swept wheaton head to head??   See what the "non Wheaties" have to deal with, year after year?   Thanks for listening....
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on April 30, 2009, 08:52:16 PM
Babson hasn't received a ton of respect for the regional polls for the following reasons:

21-17 overall record - too many losses
0-4 against the LEC - Gotta beat some of the teams from the best conference in the region

Wheaton has because a) the history b) a great overall record (29-11) and c) solid wins vs. TCNJ, WNEC, and Keene St.

They lost a few games in conference - it happens.  ECSU lost to UMass Dartmouth this year too!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on April 30, 2009, 09:06:15 PM
OK, THANKS AGAIN....I THINK THE "0-4 VS LEC" MAKES SOME SENSE TO ME NOW...AS, I HAD never looked for that STAT....    I KNOW THE OVERALL 21-17 is also key.   Thank God they won their tourney--and they knew that was their only hope for NCAA's, of course.    Last year they were flat out snubbed.....  Wins/losses/overall were all there...as well as being 1st team to dethrown, you know whom in NEWMAC reg season. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 30, 2009, 09:14:12 PM
Hi guys,

The 2nd regional rankings came out today, and they are as follows:

New England Region
1. Southern Maine 31-4 26-3
2. Eastern Connecticut State 26-6 23-6
3. Trinity (Conn.) 24-4 24-2
4. Wheaton (Mass.) 28-9 25-8
5. Worcester Polytech 22-11 21-8
6. Curry 30-5 26-4
7. Williams 20-8 16-5
8. Suffolk 27-8 24-7
9. Worcester State 26-11 26-8
10. Western New England 25-14 22-13

--------------

I'm going to be perfectly honest here... was the committee under a rock for the last week? Wow. I don't have the time to offer my usual critiques of each team, but if I were ranking the teams today, they'd look something like this:

1. Southern Maine
2. Trinity
3. Curry
4. Eastern Connecticut
5. Suffolk
6. Wheaton
7. St. Joe's (ME)
8. Worcester State
9. WNEC
10. Babson

---

To be perfectly honest, WPI has no right to an at-large bid, and with the way things look currently, they might earn one over a more deserving Curry squad. If that happens, then...   ???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 30, 2009, 10:03:44 PM
WOW, Wheaton now really seems to have crashed and burned in loss to UMD!!

USM rolls over Babson, in a game only important to USM
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2009, 10:16:49 PM
I have been following D3 baseball very closely for about 5-6 seasons now.

We have a Top 25 for 360 teams.  (The Top 25 for BCS Football covers the best of 110+ FBS schools.)

The Top 25 means that there are about 60 teams that aren't getting any press.  There are 32 tourneys in Pool A conferences.  That means that there are 64 conference tourney finalists!  We followed Pomona-Pitzer, Cal LU and Redlands in the SCIAC.  CAC --Salisbury and York PA.  MIAA -- Adrian and Olivet.  Pool B-- 6-8 schools.

That is nearly 80-90 schools that are in the hunt!  There are so many teams below the radar that I am not surprised by who gets hot!  The West and the South finish early.  The West and the South get lots of press.  The snowbird teams are struggling to get games in, all the while the batters are playing 5-6 games per week.  You can get into a good groove playing that often.  That lets a team get hot and on a great run beginning in late April (about now).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2009, 10:18:24 PM
Quote from: moc323 on April 30, 2009, 09:06:15 PM
OK, THANKS AGAIN....I THINK THE "0-4 VS LEC" MAKES SOME SENSE TO ME NOW...AS, I HAD never looked for that STAT....    I KNOW THE OVERALL 21-17 is also key.   Thank God they won their tourney--and they knew that was their only hope for NCAA's, of course.    Last year they were flat out snubbed.....  Wins/losses/overall were all there...as well as being 1st team to dethrown, you know whom in NEWMAC reg season. 

The Handbook says "Results vs in-region teams".
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 30, 2009, 10:57:37 PM
Another good analysis TheGNAC.  It must have been a big rock the committee was under. The ranking call is done after the weekend, right? How does Babson not at least make #10? And Wheaton and WPI who don't make the finals of their tourney both stay in the top 5? I understand there are many criteria they use in the rankings but it's beginning to look like reputation is now one of the first criteria.

Your rankings are much more on the money. The only difference would be to swap Curry and ECSU(and that's probably results from this week talking more that last week's results)

Next ranking will be very interesting with 2 very bad games for the Wheaties added on top of the failure in the WETHCTPI tourney. See where they end up ranked after this week.

Once again and on a side note, congrats to Suffolk and good luck in the Regionals from your GNAC rivals.  You'll represent GNAC well.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on April 30, 2009, 11:15:06 PM
ECSU alum....you are correct about both comments---1st, I'll take it a step further than our earlier critiques of them---Wheaton is waaay overrated "this year".   Ranking a team, highly due to its "history" is bogus--and harmful to teams trying to be recognized---by winning....and by playing tough non-conf  schedules.   I do understand their being placed highly in pre-season and staying up there the 1st 1/2 of season...they were about 22-3 at one point and 3rd in Nation.   If we all look at their last 10 games---like the NCAA basketball committee does before March madness selections, we might see 4-6?   Facts---per being "snowbirds", once they got into lat season/tough conference/regional games, their (lack of depth in) pitching has now been exposed.   No more pre-season Florida wins, no more Coast Guard/Clark pitching in conf to beat up on now.   But---as someone said earlier this eve---the committee may have been hibernating the last 2 weeks?   Once Wheaton is plugged into top 5....based on their "past"...it takes more than 6 losses in 2.5 weeks to drop them out of top 15 in the whole country?   No-one else would last that long, would they?  And #5 in New England still?  

As far as USM beating Babson's # 6 or 7 starter today 15-9----Babson was actually up 8-6 in the 4th inning, fyi....and outhit USM most of the game.   The Beavers' # 6- 7 starter was used as they are resting their real arms after their 4-0 tourney performance last weekend over M.I.T., W.P.I. and Wheaton.....when Babson's 2nd and 3rd starters (Jeff Wojnar and Michael O'Brien---Newmac pitcher of week, prior week WITH 18 S.O.'S in 9 innings vs WENTWORTH'S 21-12 TEAM) each kept that vaunted Wheaton offense at bay for 7-8 innings each game....
Their ace, Andrew Aizenstadt had gone about 8 innings in game # 1 of tourney, giving up zero earned runs in their 1st win vs. # 3 seed, M.I.T.  at M.I.T....
tHEIR 4TH STARTER, MATT BARTON,  shut down M.I.T in the finals....going 8 innings and giving up just 1-2 earned runs vs an M.I.T. team which had just scored 21 runs on 21 hits in an earlier tourney game---coming back from 8-0 deficit to beat Clark 21-12 !!    So---babson has 4 solid starters----beware the Beavers in Regionals!     Maybe they do want Wheaton to get an invite???  Would be nice to get them again in  1st round---as a nice tune up for those top LEC teams, which are legit...    does the committe have the guts to leave Wheaton out?   yeah right....     sorry WNec, Curry, Suffolk and any other "deserving teams".....  Queen Wheaton still has their reservation in stone it seems....  
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 30, 2009, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: moc323 on April 30, 2009, 11:15:06 PM
sorry WNec, Curry, Suffolk and any other "deserving teams".....  Queen Wheaton still has their reservation in stone it seems....  

Well, good thing for Suffolk that they won the automatic bid over the weekend, then.

I do agree with your general sentiments, though.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on April 30, 2009, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: Stump on April 30, 2009, 10:57:37 PM
Another good analysis TheGNAC.  It must have been a big rock the committee was under. The ranking call is done after the weekend, right? How does Babson not at least make #10? And Wheaton and WPI who don't make the finals of their tourney both stay in the top 5? I understand there are many criteria they use in the rankings but it's beginning to look like reputation is now one of the first criteria.

Your rankings are much more on the money. The only difference would be to swap Curry and ECSU(and that's probably results from this week talking more that last week's results)

Next ranking will be very interesting with 2 very bad games for the Wheaties added on top of the failure in the WETHCTPI tourney. See where they end up ranked after this week.

Once again and on a side note, congrats to Suffolk and good luck in the Regionals from your GNAC rivals.  You'll represent GNAC well.

Thanks Stump, enjoyed having another GNAC poster to talk shop with this year. I can tell you're a St. Joe's guy, so if it means anything, I'd give the Monks some serious consideration if I were on the selection committee. They proved yesterday they can beat any team in the country, and it's a shame they'll probably miss the regionals this year for the first time since 2004.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: mans007 on April 30, 2009, 11:32:07 PM
moc, and to everyone else who is not aware.  A few years back the ncaa div 3 powers that be created a regional point system.  So, therefore when the committe meets to pick the regionals it is now pretty cut and dry.  At large teams are picked by there regional points, period. There are no more bias or bangwagon voting. You beat good teams in region and you will amass enough points to get an at large bid. Win your conference tourney or beat as many good in region teams as possible. Other then that you don't have much else to complain about.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: mans007 on April 30, 2009, 11:43:30 PM
one more thing... I have not seen curry college play this year but im not totally understanding everyones perception of some kind of regional ranking diservice.  I think everyone will agree that the New England region is pretty strong this year but Curry really hasn't beaten anyone. In fact, they have lost to bridgewater and ric. They beat wheaton who everyone thinks is overated, thats it. I just don't see the arguments being made?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DougiesGoinDeep on May 01, 2009, 01:39:16 AM
Moc...

If it makes you feel any better, in my opinion Wheaton has played there last game and will NOT receive an at large bid this year. There is no way you can justify them getting into a regional with a very average record this year. I have absolutely no idea how Wheaton is even still ranked in the top 10 in New England in this recent poll. Babson has proven this year that they are the best team in the NEWMAC and rightfully so, they have earned their trip to the NE regional. All Wheaton has done this year is under achieve with some bad losses. However, there is just too much talent between USM, Trinity and ECSU to think that anyone can compete with them in the NE regional. USM has a ridiculous offense to go along with some above average pitchers, Trinity has arguably the best pitcher in all of D3 in Bayer and probably the second best offense behind USM with Killeen, Graham and Wood, and ECSU has the depth to win the regional with a very strong senior class led by Gilblair and the ability to beat anyone on any given day. I just don't see anyone upsetting these 3 teams in the regional. My pick is still USM, but I think Trinity could also make a run if Bayer can pitch 2 of the 4 or 5 games.   
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on May 01, 2009, 06:54:33 AM
Quote from: mans007 on April 30, 2009, 11:32:07 PM
moc, and to everyone else who is not aware.  A few years back the ncaa div 3 powers that be created a regional point system.  So, therefore when the committe meets to pick the regionals it is now pretty cut and dry.  At large teams are picked by there regional points, period. There are no more bias or bangwagon voting. You beat good teams in region and you will amass enough points to get an at large bid. Win your conference tourney or beat as many good in region teams as possible. Other then that you don't have much else to complain about.
Not used anymore.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 01, 2009, 08:27:33 AM
moc welcome to the board.  As a keene state guy i have seen the owls battle babson and wheaton over the last 4 or 5 years, with relative success against both of them.  Babson had a great year and they are in and for that i am excited.  They have a great program, a gream coach, and a great field.  I think that they can compete with anyone in NE on any given day.  I know that everyone praises Wheaton, and i think for good reason over the last couple of seasons.  They have a winning program and they are year in and year out one of the elite programs in NE.  Now that being said they did have an off year and they should not get in, Keene experianced this same thing in 2006 when they where snubbed with a 31-14 record while Eastern, and USM got in, after Keene had beaten Eastern three times that year, and USM in the semis of the LEC tournament.  I guess you can say it was Keenes own fault for failing to win the tournament that year but its tough for programs to get the "national press" to start.  If you see Babson make a bit or a run this year in the regionals, and then put together another couple of regional runs you will see them get thier press just like Wheaton.  That is what Keene has and is doing right now.  THey play in the toughest d3 conference in the country with two teams that have 6 National Titles betweeen them.  USM and Eastern are "known" and rightfully so around the country.  It took a couple of years for Keene to get "thier press" and like Keene i am sure that Babson will get thiers too.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 01, 2009, 09:25:12 AM
Quote from: moc323 on April 30, 2009, 07:39:18 PM
::)  I'm new to D3 boards this year, so, fair game for all other "in the know."   I have read all the New England discussions/comments over the past 2 seasons however and have now seen enough Babson snubbing and ridiculing.  Remember last season, when these beavers (Ward, June Wally and "the Beave") were left out of the invitations, by the powers to be?   There were many whom felt Babson was one of the top 3 "just out"/bubble teams even though they are 8-5 vs "The Wheaties" over the last few seasons.....including, "YES" , 3 of 4 this year---and the NEWMAC conference tourney rounds 2 and 3 sweeping of the ? # 3, 6, 8. 12. 15?? team in the U.S. IN D3 STILL, CURRENTLY?   If anyone chiming in on these boards watched a few NEWMAC games, there'd be much fewer boards loaded with Wheaties praise and much more praise for Babson and W.P.I this year.   Of course, the NEWMAC tourney, which Babson swept through 4-0 with 2 wins over Wheaton, to take them out,single handedly... (and yet Babson is still not ranked in TOP 25 Nationally, nor in Top 10 IN NEW ENGLAND even???)  Obviously, like everything else, politics must be involved in the D3 ranking system....
WPI is number 6 or 7 in New England now, are they?---and Wheaton somehow still shows up at # 4, or 5 is it?   Hmmm..  I guess the NEWMAC tourney was a fluke?    Let's see---yesterday's scores----ECSU 11-0 over those same, highly ranked, never to be moved from TOP 5 NEW ENGLAND regional rankings/ Wheaties ?    Someone involved in the invite process needs to pay a little closer attn to New England, in general maybe?  They also seem to consider this the $#%@ CONFERENCE....?   
Last Year's champ but have been a fluke also---wasn't Trinity about 43-0 going into the National finals?     Wheaton is ranked right nexto to them, while Babson doesn't get 1 vote for top 10 in New England?    I guess their out of conference schedule should be tougher next year, as they ONLY played, Southern Maine, TRINITY, Tufts, Curry, Rhode Island Coll, ECSU and Keene State maybe this year and/or last year?   Let's not forget 4 games vs Wheaton and 2 more vs W.P.I. this year...   Everyone, please Stop THE WHEATON BIAS, ALL THE WAY FROM THE TOP OF THE D3 committee, down to us know nothing, New England fans......  It's like N.Y. Yankee praise.....WHICH WAS ALSO APPROPRIATE---WHEN THEY WERE WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS.      Sorry, if my 1st entry seems a little harsh....it's not aimed at anyone in specific, just a little tired of 2 years of reading nothing but, "breakfast of champions" praise....    I think they are averaging about 4 errors per game the past 3 weeks---"crunch time??" 

Babson Beavers are now the Rodney Dangerfields of the NorthEast ???

I don't get no Respect! :-X :-\ :'( :-* :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYCCDD7VXEc&feature=related


Get in line Babson, when you play in a region with the likes of USM, Wheaton, EastConn, Trinity, as established national powerhouses, and the likes of KSC, WNEC, St. Joe's as programs on the verge of it, get in line.

Word 8)

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 01, 2009, 10:05:18 AM
Quote from: mans007 on April 30, 2009, 11:32:07 PM
moc, and to everyone else who is not aware.  A few years back the ncaa div 3 powers that be created a regional point system.  So, therefore when the committe meets to pick the regionals it is now pretty cut and dry.  At large teams are picked by there regional points, period. There are no more bias or bangwagon voting. You beat good teams in region and you will amass enough points to get an at large bid. Win your conference tourney or beat as many good in region teams as possible. Other then that you don't have much else to complain about.

Thanks, Mans007---I was unaware of the committee's regional "point system", which actually makes some sense.   Is the point sytem published for fans to view?   Since every other imaginable stat for every team/player is provided, wouldn't it make sense for them to show whatever "point system" they do us, at selection time to all involved? 
If you say it's "cut and dry"....and no-one should have any gripes if not selected....  where are the point standings within each region shown?   I know they show regional record and overall record in top 10 regional ranking list each week now, but...ther are some teams in the top ten, whom are ahead of others in region--even though their record within region is not better?    Also, for teams in New England--specifically, LEC, when you have 3 0r 4 teams Nationally ranked in top 10-15 all year---they would all receive at large bids--if they don't win conf tourney, based on that point system, right?  If they are in the toughest region in the U.S.  and have to play ECSU, Trinity and USM twice each----are any of those "regional, but also conference, wins counted in this point system you refer to---or, is it only for games outside your conference?   thanks again for the point system info...   MOC
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 01, 2009, 10:31:31 AM
Moc- i think that Oshdude said above that they dont use that points system anymore
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on May 01, 2009, 12:07:33 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 01, 2009, 10:31:31 AM
Moc- i think that Oshdude said above that they dont use that points system anymore
Thankfully the NCAA no longer uses it. It was amazing, but the QoWI was scrapped after the 2007 season.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 01, 2009, 09:01:43 PM
Quote from: DougiesGoinDeep on May 01, 2009, 01:39:16 AM
Moc...

If it makes you feel any better, in my opinion Wheaton has played there last game and will NOT receive an at large bid this year. There is no way you can justify them getting into a regional with a very average record this year. I have absolutely no idea how Wheaton is even still ranked in the top 10 in New England in this recent poll. Babson has proven this year that they are the best team in the NEWMAC and rightfully so, they have earned their trip to the NE regional. All Wheaton has done this year is under achieve with some bad losses. However, there is just too much talent between USM, Trinity and ECSU to think that anyone can compete with them in the NE regional. USM has a ridiculous offense to go along with some above average pitchers, Trinity has arguably the best pitcher in all of D3 in Bayer and probably the second best offense behind USM with Killeen, Graham and Wood, and ECSU has the depth to win the regional with a very strong senior class led by Gilblair and the ability to beat anyone on any given day. I just don't see anyone upsetting these 3 teams in the regional. My pick is still USM, but I think Trinity could also make a run if Bayer can pitch 2 of the 4 or 5 games.   
8)     

Dougiesgoindeep---I agree USM, Trinity, ECSU will be tough to take out, per the double elim format, as they will eventually "hit" their way back to the semis from any possible 1st round defeat at the hands of someone like Babson, Wheaton (if invited) Curry, Suffolk, etc etc....but, as we all know from playing, observing, coaching baseball games since our youth......a strong performance by a top notch starter can quiet ANY batting lineup---for any one game.    Any one of these three can be beaten on day one, if a lower seed gets a 9 out of 10 effort by their starting p.     Once that happens---if it does---that top seed can then be in big trouble, as far as being able to climb all the way back to win the region.   All 3 top seeds know they will have the pressure on them to get game 1....because those other 2 top seeds probably will be in winners' bracket.   If WNEC, Babson and Wheaton all end up as the "lower" seeds----don't bet the mortgage against all 3 of them in round 1....    As you have seen in last 24 hours on these boards---I've been the biggest Wheaton basher--or, disbeliever to be polite, for this season----but--they certainly do have enough all around batting talent and an All american/Gingras starting for them---not to mention Josh Simmons as closer in any close game late...     Babson has Aizenstadt--rookie of year last year---and 6-1 starter this season, with a rare save in finals of NEWMAC tourney also.......zero earned runs his last few starts (and 1 save) combined.    If they can get a round 1 win---watch out---3 very good starters follow Aizenstadt---thus the 4-0 sweep through their tourney.      I know college baseball is a hitting league, in general, with several teams batting well over .300 each year, so, eventually those teams do show up at the end.   Not too many of them have the 4 quality starters Babson has though----so, they can be equalizers?      For a team like Trinity to go 43-0 or more last year...and almost run the whole table through the Nationals....they obviously weren't "stopped" by anyone!   USM never stops hitting, nor does Trinity as you say.  ECSU is always solid, top to bottom.    Any of these 3 would be almost impossible to take down, in a best of 7 series.   The good news for all others is:  it's not best of 7 !!     Too bad all 3 may be in same regionals.....      Would love to believe Wheaton will be absent, but....they still show up as # 15 Nationally, # 4 in NEW ENG?     TRAVESTY......
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 01, 2009, 09:11:32 PM
KSCfan-----belated "thanks" for the D3 bb welcome you extended my way....Most of you guys are far ahead of me, in the D3 teams knowlege, in general-----as, I've sorta been locked in, locally, to the NEWMAC conference, along with a few others nearby me-- WNEC, Westfield State, etc.    I've seen just a few of the powerhouses, Keene State, ECSU, USM, Trinity games over the past 2 seasons---so, am not qualifies to judge their individual talents...by any means..    Their overall and regional records do speak for themselves--no doubt there. 
I've enjoyed reading all of the D3 New England discussions you guys have been having over those 2 years---and finally decided to join in.    Thanks for the window:)))
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on May 01, 2009, 09:36:45 PM
moc323,
  Glad you joined in the discussions. It's great having more people talking baseball. There are a lot of knowledge that gets shared on these boards. We can't see everybody but you can really get a good idea of how the different conferences shape up by reading the posts. I know I feel like I know the LEC pretty well and I've only seen USM and KSC this year.(and only USM in person, KSC on web)
It's like a family. Sometimes there are some pretty good squabbles(see the LEC board)and some real rivalries but it's all pretty good natured.  And then there's always wordsmith for a little different perspective on things ;) Thanks Word ;D :D

So welcome aboard and enjoy the ride :)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 01, 2009, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Stump on May 01, 2009, 09:36:45 PM
moc323,
  Glad you joined in the discussions. It's great having more people talking baseball. There are a lot of knowledge that gets shared on these boards. We can't see everybody but you can really get a good idea of how the different conferences shape up by reading the posts. I know I feel like I know the LEC pretty well and I've only seen USM and KSC this year.(and only USM in person, KSC on web)
It's like a family. Sometimes there are some pretty good squabbles(see the LEC board)and some real rivalries but it's all pretty good natured.  And then there's always wordsmith for a little different perspective on things ;) Thanks Word ;D :D

So welcome aboard and enjoy the ride :)

Thanks Stump.....much appreciated.  It is all in good fun, as you say---and I also enjoy the LEC squabbles for added entertainment.   I need to work on navigating around these BB better, as I don't always find my way back to where I want to go, looking for replies...   growing pains:))    c'est la vie !   If you don't like baseball---you aren't American !!   (almost sounds like a Yogi- ism, tho maybe not flawed enough:))   
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: mans007 on May 01, 2009, 11:06:40 PM
The point system is still being used. It is actually the reason ECSU goes to Arizona now. More teams from the northeast. They would play better competition in cali but they had to do it.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on May 01, 2009, 11:15:56 PM
Quote from: mans007 on May 01, 2009, 11:06:40 PM
The point system is still being used. It is actually the reason ECSU goes to Arizona now. More teams from the northeast. They would play better competition in cali but they had to do it.

Thats funny coach H said it was because they changed the week of spring break and we couldn't get the games we wanted.  You could have a point though, it makes better sense.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on May 02, 2009, 09:50:33 AM
Quote from: mans007 on May 01, 2009, 11:06:40 PM
The point system is still being used. It is actually the reason ECSU goes to Arizona now. More teams from the northeast. They would play better competition in cali but they had to do it.
Do you mean the QoWI (teams were awarded points for home/road, wins/losses in a tiered system based on in-region winning percentages)? If that's what you're referencing, it was last used in 2007. Please believe me.

Straight from the 2009 Handbook, which looks very similar to the 2008 Handbook ... not a point system to be found:
Selection Criteria.
Primary Criteria
The primary criteria emphasize regional competition (all contests leading up to NCAA
championships); all criteria listed will be evaluated (not listed in priority order).
• Win-loss percentage against regional opponents.
• Strength-of-schedule (only contests versus regional competition).
- Opponents' Average Winning Percentage (OWP).
- Opponents' Opponents' Average Winning Percentage (OOWP).
• See Appendix B for explanation of OWP and OOWP calculations.
• In-region head-to-head competition.
• In-region results versus common regional opponents.
• In-region results versus regionally ranked teams.
• Ranked opponents are defined as those teams ranked at the time of the rankings/
selection process only.
• Conference postseason contests are included.
• Contests versus provisional and reclassifying members in their third and fourth
years shall count in the primary criteria. Provisional and reclassifying members
shall remain ineligible for rankings and selection.
Secondary Criteria
If the evaluation of the primary criteria does not result in a decision, the secondary criteria will be
reviewed. All the criteria listed will be evaluated (not listed in priority order). The secondary criteria
introduce results against out-of-region Division III and all other opponents including those contests
versus opponents from other classifications (i.e., provisionals, NAIA, NCAA Divisions I and II).
• Out-of-region head-to-head competition.
• Overall Division III win-loss percentage.
• Results versus common non Division III opponents.
• Results versus all Division III ranked teams.
• Overall win-loss percentage.
• Results versus all common opponents.
• Overall DIII Strength of Schedule.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on May 03, 2009, 01:24:57 PM
For those who would like to listen to the WNEC vs Curry game.  http://www.curry.edu/Athletics/  Lower righthand side of the page. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 03, 2009, 01:30:33 PM
DGilblair...
I wish I could but I gotta put down mulch today.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 03, 2009, 04:14:57 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 03, 2009, 01:30:33 PM
DGilblair...
I wish I could but I gotta put down mulch today.
Why go outside...

There is plenty of mulch being put down on these boards!   :D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 03, 2009, 05:02:08 PM
Ralph,
DOn't you mean manure? I know what you mean.....
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 03, 2009, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 03, 2009, 05:02:08 PM
Ralph,
DOn't you mean manure? I know what you mean.....
I was being polite!   :D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DIII Dad on May 03, 2009, 08:34:06 PM
moc323,
Here are the standings for the NEWMAC. You said in an earlier post Wheaton was listed over WPI. Maybe if you weren't blinded by your rage over Wheaton you would see WPI on top.

                 Conf.     Over-All 
WPI           9-3-0     26-11-0 
Wheaton     9-3-0    30-12-0 
MIT            7-5-0    24-14-0 
Babson        6-6-0    22-18-0 
Springfield    5-7-0    9-26-0 
Clark           4-8-0    14-21-0 
Coast Guard 2-10-0  7-23-0 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 03, 2009, 08:38:51 PM
Quote from: moc323 on May 01, 2009, 09:01:43 PM
Quote from: DougiesGoinDeep on May 01, 2009, 01:39:16 AM
Moc...

If it makes you feel any better, in my opinion Wheaton has played there last game and will NOT receive an at large bid this year. There is no way you can justify them getting into a regional with a very average record this year. I have absolutely no idea how Wheaton is even still ranked in the top 10 in New England in this recent poll. Babson has proven this year that they are the best team in the NEWMAC and rightfully so, they have earned their trip to the NE regional. All Wheaton has done this year is under achieve with some bad losses. However, there is just too much talent between USM, Trinity and ECSU to think that anyone can compete with them in the NE regional. USM has a ridiculous offense to go along with some above average pitchers, Trinity has arguably the best pitcher in all of D3 in Bayer and probably the second best offense behind USM with Killeen, Graham and Wood, and ECSU has the depth to win the regional with a very strong senior class led by Gilblair and the ability to beat anyone on any given day. I just don't see anyone upsetting these 3 teams in the regional. My pick is still USM, but I think Trinity could also make a run if Bayer can pitch 2 of the 4 or 5 games.   
8)     

Dougiesgoindeep---I agree USM, Trinity, ECSU will be tough to take out, per the double elim format, as they will eventually "hit" their way back to the semis from any possible 1st round defeat at the hands of someone like Babson, Wheaton (if invited) Curry, Suffolk, etc etc....but, as we all know from playing, observing, coaching baseball games since our youth......a strong performance by a top notch starter can quiet ANY batting lineup---for any one game.    Any one of these three can be beaten on day one, if a lower seed gets a 9 out of 10 effort by their starting p.     Once that happens---if it does---that top seed can then be in big trouble, as far as being able to climb all the way back to win the region.   All 3 top seeds know they will have the pressure on them to get game 1....because those other 2 top seeds probably will be in winners' bracket.   If WNEC, Babson and Wheaton all end up as the "lower" seeds----don't bet the mortgage against all 3 of them in round 1....    As you have seen in last 24 hours on these boards---I've been the biggest Wheaton basher--or, disbeliever to be polite, for this season----but--they certainly do have enough all around batting talent and an All american/Gingras starting for them---not to mention Josh Simmons as closer in any close game late...     Babson has Aizenstadt--rookie of year last year---and 6-1 starter this season, with a rare save in finals of NEWMAC tourney also.......zero earned runs his last few starts (and 1 save) combined.    If they can get a round 1 win---watch out---3 very good starters follow Aizenstadt---thus the 4-0 sweep through their tourney.      I know college baseball is a hitting league, in general, with several teams batting well over .300 each year, so, eventually those teams do show up at the end.   Not too many of them have the 4 quality starters Babson has though----so, they can be equalizers?      For a team like Trinity to go 43-0 or more last year...and almost run the whole table through the Nationals....they obviously weren't "stopped" by anyone!   USM never stops hitting, nor does Trinity as you say.  ECSU is always solid, top to bottom.    Any of these 3 would be almost impossible to take down, in a best of 7 series.   The good news for all others is:  it's not best of 7 !!     Too bad all 3 may be in same regionals.....      Would love to believe Wheaton will be absent, but....they still show up as # 15 Nationally, # 4 in NEW ENG?     TRAVESTY......

I believe there is a good chance Trinity gets sent to the NY region and becomes that region's #1 seed. Cortland state cannot legitimately be the #1 seed in that region.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 04, 2009, 12:56:05 PM
Some Broadcast info re LEC Tourney for those interested:

Here is USM Radio web link:

http://people.usm.maine.edu/jkessler/athletics/

As of today it was just showing the USM vs Plymouth State game from last weekend, but would assume they will post broadcasts of the LEC Tourney soon.

Very good announcers of of USM College Radio
Here is Little East TV broadcast schedule:

Current Schedule
05/07
Little East Baseball Final Four Game 1: USM vs. UMB (ME) 12:00PM (EST) 
05/07
Little East Baseball Final Four Game 2: ECSU vs. KSC (ME) 03:30PM (EST) 
05/08
Little East Baseball Final Four Game 3 (ME) 09:30AM (EST) 
05/08
Little East Baseball Final Four Game 4 (ME) 12:30PM (EST) 
05/08
Little East Baseball Final Four Game 5 (ME) 03:30PM (EST) 
05/09
Little East Baseball Final Four Game 6 (ME) 12:00PM (EST) 
05/09 Little East Baseball Final Four Game 7 (ME) 03:00PM (EST) 

Again, go to LEC web site and click on Little East TV, then click on game as shown above under "Current Schedule"

Click on "try this link" under video box if video does not show in 20 seconds

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 04, 2009, 02:06:55 PM
Quote from: DIII Dad on May 03, 2009, 08:34:06 PM
moc323,
Here are the standings for the NEWMAC. You said in an earlier post Wheaton was listed over WPI. Maybe if you weren't blinded by your rage over Wheaton you would see WPI on top.
thanks Wheaton dad? Or, d3 dad------but---if you followed that conference a few weeks ago, as the reg season ended and the NEWMAC tourney started up---it was a full week, before they flip flopped those two teams and showed them, accurately, as you now show them.  And it wasn't because the wins/losses/stats hadn't been updated for the 2 teams yet--as the NEWMAC had showed both their records at 9-3, which is how they finished conference play.    From your "rage" comment, I have to assume you are a D3 DAD, OF A Wheaton player...?   If so---sorry for any "rage" aimed at your son's team...It wasn't meant for, nor aimed at any of the players on Wheaton----AS I FOLLOWED UP IN A COUPLE LATER POSTS BY STATING THEY "HAVE PLENTY OF TALENT", etc etc.....It's strictly observations I made that the committees whom judge all d3 teams, had seemingly, already plugged Wheaton in to a certain top area, for year end consideration, before they even played their schedule out??.....   These standings showed Wheaton 1st, WPI 2nd, as I said-----with these identical 9-3 records for at least a full week---before they were finally corrected.  Simple oversight by those whom list standings?  maybe.   maybe not, based on 2 years of adoration given to Wheaton on D3 sites in general.....even as they go through their late season swoon this year...   
             
 Conf.     Over-All 
WPI           9-3-0     26-11-0 
Wheaton     9-3-0    30-12-0 
MIT            7-5-0    24-14-0 
Babson        6-6-0    22-18-0 
Springfield    5-7-0    9-26-0 
Clark           4-8-0    14-21-0 
Coast Guard 2-10-0  7-23-0 

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rbgosfan on May 04, 2009, 03:05:01 PM
moc323,
Calm down a little bit. I agree that  Wheaton has received a lot of press over  the past 2 years but starting with their second place finish nationally in 2006 they have done a lot to deserve it. I saw them a couple of times in Arizona this year and they were a quality team. Prior to their late season problems they were deserving of much of the praise.

I also agree that  teams to get recognized as much by reputation as witnessed by Cortland and Hopkins being top 5 in preseason polls and not ranked halfway through the seasaon. With the number of D3 schools out there and lack of data on all  the recruits, reputation and returning players has to be a key factor early in the year and once ranked it does take a while to slip downward but that is the case when 25 coaches are voting who could not possibly have seen all the teams they are evaluating.

As far as the order teams are listed in standings, there is probably an algorithm being used such as sort first on conference record and  if tied a second criteria would be used. Often times that is alphabetical (Wh would come before WP or Wo) or it may have been overall winning percentage (Wheaton is .714 while WPI is .703).  Really what difference does it  make how the regular season standings are listed when ultimately Babson won the conference tournament and received the AQ to the NCAA's.

Enjoy the success of your team and lighten up on the bashing of other teams.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 04, 2009, 05:37:25 PM
RBGosfan:

As I do: "calm down" , "lighten up" and "enjoy my own team's success", per your suggestions...   please note I am not "bashing", nor meaning to bash---any other teams, by any means.  If you go back further in general new eng discussions, from a few days ago---vs only responding to the last post or 2 from today, you'll, hopefully see I'm well aware of Wheaton's success over the past 3 years, as I've seen them play 9 times in person.... and you'll also see I stated a few different times how they are very talented every year.    It's the ranking system, and/or those whom do the rankings (yes, the 25 coaches) which I have been questioning----NOT THE actual players themselves.    I think I can voice my opinions/concerns etc about how teams are ranked, or why they may be left unranked?   I appreciate the algorithm explanation you gave, re: why standings may have been listed incorrectly for awhile...whether that's correct or not--it is believable.  As you said---who cares about reg season now anyway. 
Someone else had emailed me those *(corrected) standings, as they saw them listed today----but, I had moved on from that question a long time ago...fyi. 
Please know---my feelings expressed on the BB, have been formed over 4 years of observing this conference play....
We all have our own team(s) we follow and which we back, passionately.
I've commented favorably about several GOOD New Eng teams, other than the one I root for...over the past 3 days on the BB...
LAST YEAR the tourney committee "screwed up", in their own words, (after the fact..)..by having remaining teams on sat/Sunday play the semifinal and final rounds of last yr's NEWMAC TOURNEY at Wheaton's home field....when it should've been at Babson!   Wheaton has been tough enough for all others to beat--without the conference giving them an added advantage---"by mistake".   Of course---all teams,fans, etc were already there---when everyone learned they had gaffed things, so, they just played it there anyway?     So---please understand some of the "other" NEWMAC teams' and fans' viewpoints may be a little tainted over the past few years?   Of course---many are jealous of a top program like Wheaton----rightfully so--as it's a great role model for the conference.     Again---it's just the treatment they are sometimes given by others which can be annoying at times.  That simple.   Their players and the school program are excellent.....no-one should dispute that.    No-one is disputing that.     Thanks again for your info.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rbgosfan on May 04, 2009, 06:53:45 PM
moc323,
Fair enough, I reviewed your posts and agree that you were complaining more about the rankings, than the teams and as I said, in many cases I agree with you that rankings are too arbitrary but it is that way in most sports where there are polls.

It is now time to wait for the dust to settle in the final conference tournaments, see what the powers to be decide on Sunday night and then sit back and enjoy the regionals. I have a strong feeling that the national champ will be coming from NE for the second straight year (if not directly from the NE regional, then the team that gets shipped out).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 04, 2009, 08:21:13 PM
moc323,

If it makes you feel any better I posted a Wheaton-whine  back on May 25th, 2007 about their over-ranking (see below). If fact there are a whole series of comments about Wheaton being over-rated. To which the Wheaton coach told me via a posting to chill-out.

The highlight of all this was KSCer calling spring07 (the Wheaton coach) "Wheaton-Boy"

So moc323, I'm wiff ya. 

Word

May 25th, 2007

Please, will someone help explain these rankings to me? How does Keene State College end up 4th in New England, and unbelievably 29th in the USA while Wheaton claims 2nd and Oh My GOD 11th in the Nation.??!!?? 

HELP

New England
1. Eastern Connecticut State (38-10)
2. Wheaton (34-13)
3. Trinity (30-8)
4. Keene State (32-15)
5. Williams (27-10)
6. Tufts (25-12)
7. Western New England (28-12)
8. Southern Maine (27-15)

Rank School Record Points Last Rank
1. ( Chapman (Calif.) 40-6 240 2
2. Cortland (N.Y.) State 40-5 224 3
3. Emory (Ga.) 39-8 220 4
4. Kean (N.J.) 39-8 218 5
5. Eastern Connecticut State 38-10 206 11
6. Wis.-Stevens Point 32-15 196 25
7. Marietta (Ohio) 32-15 194 18
8. Carthage (Wis.) 36-11 193 nr
9. Pacific Lutheran (Wash.) 35-9 163 15
10. Wooster (Ohio) 42-7 162 1
11. Wheaton (Mass.) 34-13 158 6
12. Johns Hopkins (Md.) 38-11 156 13
13. Wis.-Oshkosh 35-12 155 8
14. New Jersey 34-11 122 7
15. Texas Lutheran 37-10-1 119 9
16. Luther (Iowa) 31-11 111 nr
17. St. Thomas (Minn.) 30-11 97 14
18. Ferrum (Va.) 27-18 92 nr
19. Trinity (Conn.) 30-8 90 rv
20. Otterbein (Ohio) 32-13 86 rv
21. Ithaca (N.Y.) 27-15 75 rv
22. Augustana (Ill.) 35-14 70 rv
23t. Texas-Dallas 34-13 54 28
23t. York (Pa.) 32-14 54 nr
25. Salisbury (Md.) 33-9 41 10
26. Illinois Wesleyan 32-13 34 12
27. Gwynedd-Mercy (Pa.) 32-12 32 23
28. St. Olaf (Minn.) 32-10 31 27
29. Keene (N.H.) State 32-15 30 nr
30t. Millsaps (Miss.) 35-11 27 16
30t. Ohio Wesleyan 30-18 27 nr


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Quote from: spring07 on May 26, 2007, 08:21:47 am
Chill out wordsmith,

KSC beat WC twice in the regionals, had a great year and look like they will continue gaining momentum as they had a lot of good young players. Enjoy your summer.


the thing is Wheatonboy, Wheaton does not deserve to be ranked above KSC and any one who saw all three games knows that.

KSCer
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 04, 2009, 09:52:18 PM
wordsmith-----this is awesome---thanks for the 2007 info etc...   I'm new to D3 BB stuff---but, not new to baseball. (35 years involvement between playing through college/then coaching youth leagues etc)   I thought I was seeing things, with some of these people trying to defend the ONGOING '09 rankings/ and dismissing some obvious bias in the rankings which I've been questioning....

You made my day, with this 2007 info!     glad a few of you guys are "wiff me" on this....    all we're asking is for the committee/25 coaches to take their blinders off, before it's too late---and before another "deserving" team is snubbed, for the "special" perennial invitees...     they know who they are....   ("W Boy and company:)))
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 04, 2009, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: rbgosfan on May 04, 2009, 06:53:45 PM
moc323,
Fair enough, I reviewed your posts and agree that you were complaining more about the rankings, than the teams and as I said, in many cases I agree with you that rankings are too arbitrary but it is that way in most sports where there are polls.

It is now time to wait for the dust to settle in the final conference tournaments, see what the powers to be decide on Sunday night and then sit back and enjoy the regionals. I have a strong feeling that the national champ will be coming from NE for the second straight year (if not directly from the NE regional, then the team that gets shipped out).

RBGOSFAN---   Thanks---we're cool...

as you say----let's kick back and let the dust settle.  The committee will have some very tough decisions to make, this side of the Ohio River valley this year!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 09:42:46 AM
Latest NEIBA Poll (5/4/09)

Division III
1. Southern Maine (5) 34-5 40 pts.
2. Eastern Connecticut 31-6 33 pts.
3. Trinity 26-5 32 pts.
4. Suffolk 30-8 18 pts.
5. Wheaton 30-12 14 pts.
6. Curry 34-7 12 pts.
7. WPI 26-11 11 pts.
7. Western New England 29-15 11 pts.
Also receiving votes: Babson 3, Williams 3, Worcester State 3.

Looks like only winning percentage counts... not 'who has beaten who' when it matters most.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 05, 2009, 12:02:27 PM
Quote from: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 09:42:46 AM
Latest NEIBA Poll (5/4/09)

Division III
1. Southern Maine (5) 34-5 40 pts.
2. Eastern Connecticut 31-6 33 pts.
3. Trinity 26-5 32 pts.
4. Suffolk 30-8 18 pts.
5. Wheaton 30-12 14 pts.
6. Curry 34-7 12 pts.
7. WPI 26-11 11 pts.
7. Western New England 29-15 11 pts.
Also receiving votes: Babson 3, Williams 3, Worcester State 3.

Looks like only winning percentage counts... not 'who has beaten who' when it matters most.


Hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

This is a joke right?


Word :D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on May 05, 2009, 12:12:40 PM
Since when do games other than the conf. tournaments at the end of a season matter more that games at the beginning of one...There was a point where WC was 24-3 against more than solid in region and out of region competition...stop whining about things that haven't even happend yet and let the bids come in as they do. We all understand that they dropped games in the newmac but who has curry played this season...?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 05, 2009, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: YA, Boy on May 05, 2009, 12:12:40 PM
There was a point where WC was 24-3 against more than solid in region and out of region competition...stop whining about things that haven't even happend yet and let the bids come in as they do. We all understand that they dropped games in the newmac but who has curry played this season...?

......and a sterling 6-9 when things counted! :P :P

moc323 where you be???


This is the first NE Poll 2 weeks ago.....with records since

New England Region
1. Southern Maine 28-3 23-2                         (6-2) 8)
2. Trinity (Conn.) 21-3 21-1                            (10-3) 8)
3. Wheaton (Mass.) 25-7 22-6                       (5-5) ???
4. Eastern Connecticut 22-6 19-6                  (8-0) 8)
5. WPI 21-9 20-6                                           (5-2) 8)
6. Curry 28-4 24-3                                         (6-3) 8)
7. Suffolk 24-7 21-6                                       (6-1) ::)
8. Worcester State 23-10 23-7                      (6-5) :(
9. Western New England 23-12 20-11           (6--3) 8)
10. St. Joseph's (Maine) 25-10 22-6               ??



Word :D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on May 05, 2009, 12:46:18 PM
Reguardless, thats why there's a full season not just two weeks at the end of april. there is no doubt the bid war will be between curry and wheaton and it will be exciting come the 10th who gets it both deserving teams, no need to sit on here and bash either of them not to mention the battle they had where curry held wheaton down for nine scoreless...yet i still haven't heard a word about curry dropping their conference?????
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 05, 2009, 01:15:58 PM
Quote from: YA, Boy on May 05, 2009, 12:46:18 PM
Reguardless, thats why there's a full season not just two weeks at the end of april. there is no doubt the bid war will be between curry and wheaton and it will be exciting come the 10th who gets it both deserving teams, no need to sit on here and bash either of them not to mention the battle they had where curry held wheaton down for nine scoreless...yet i still haven't heard a word about curry dropping their conference?????

YA Boy,

If you have a chance you may want to look back at some earlier posts regarding Curry.

I personally think, WPI is being scorned. I have no connection with them at all, I just really like how they have beaten most all the big boys they have played including Wheaton twice, St. Joe's UMD, Trinity, Babson, Brandeis.
I just am looking for fairness. In the words of the immortal Al Sharpton ....NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE, NO JUSTICE NO PEACE....PREACH IT REV, PREACH IT 8)

Word :P
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 05, 2009, 03:05:26 PM
Word.....
You are right - you have to look at the body of work.... I have been saying all year, look at what WPI is doing. But then again - I am from RI and Conor Fahey is a RoadIslander. He is one of the top pitchers in the country and truly doesn't get the credit for turning that staff around.

It is crazy though ----- body of work - USM and Eastern ranked number 1 and 4 in the country. They split in their doubleheader in March and since then they are (USM) 21-3 and (ECSU) 15-5. Eastern has had 4 postponements - Trinity, Suffolk, Wesleyan, and Babson. I'm not sure how many ppd's the Huskies have had. But to tell you the truth.... I am kind of glad they they are not making them up, especially since they could see each of these teams at the (Super)Regional in Mansfield next week. It is truly a shame that these two teams plus Trinity each have a claim to a potential number 1 ranking and a better path through to Appleton in a NY or Mid Atlantic Regional. Whoever comes out of the the NE regional with be battle tested and possibly worn out because it is an 8 team format vs. a six team format.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 03:33:56 PM
Ya, Boy,

"Reguardless, thats why there's a full season not just two weeks at the end of april."

Your watching from the bleachers if you think the beginning of the year is just as important as the end of the year.  You might as well say "No tournaments just the regular season standings!" :o  The tourney winners develop their players during the regular season, so they can win the tourney (i.e., more regular season losses). ;)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 05, 2009, 03:57:36 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 05, 2009, 03:05:26 PM
Word.....
You are right - you have to look at the body of work.... I have been saying all year, look at what WPI is doing. But then again - I am from RI and Conor Fahey is a RoadIslander. He is one of the top pitchers in the country and truly doesn't get the credit for turning that staff around.

It is crazy though ----- body of work - USM and Eastern ranked number 1 and 4 in the country. They split in their doubleheader in March and since then they are (USM) 21-3 and (ECSU) 15-5. Eastern has had 4 postponements - Trinity, Suffolk, Wesleyan, and Babson. I'm not sure how many ppd's the Huskies have had. But to tell you the truth.... I am kind of glad they they are not making them up, especially since they could see each of these teams at the (Super)Regional in Mansfield next week. It is truly a shame that these two teams plus Trinity each have a claim to a potential number 1 ranking and a better path through to Appleton in a NY or Mid Atlantic Regional. Whoever comes out of the the NE regional with be battle tested and possibly worn out because it is an 8 team format vs. a six team format.


USM had 3 games rained out in that same time span...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 05, 2009, 05:05:02 PM
Hey, word, national rankings are in and Curry is well ahead of Wheaton....rightfully so (and finally?)   Does Wheaton really have the wworst record of all top 10 new England teams, in last 10 games?   I believe it--just hadn't seen those stats in print, so, thanks for digging them up.  Wonder if the selection committee has them?  We'll see, Sunday, I guess....   I had also noted Wheaton's outstanding record, back when they were 24-3, in a prior post....although much of that was Arizona, followed by the bottom teams in NEWMAC, to start their conference schedule.  As everyone knows, they didn't play Babson, nor W.P.I. until the final week and went 1-3, "when it counted most" as others have stated already.   W.P.I. won the NEWMAC reg season and swept WC at the end....so, I agree they would be one of the ones with a biggest, WTF, if WC gets the nod over them?    All any of us are looking for, is "fairness" across the board---including teams which have previously "earned" their way to NCAA's in past years---but, whom may have played themselves out of NCAA's this season.   When they select teams for March Madness/NCAA hoops.....the final 10 games played by all teams are much more important than the 1st 10 played (in Arizona??) ....unless you're "watching from the bleachers" (this comment posted earlier was right on target) and unless you're wearing a "YA BOY/WC" HAT......?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 05, 2009, 05:18:37 PM
I might be in the minority here but I think a game is a game is a game (assuming the competition is equal).  Other than conference tournament games (that result in an AQ) I think that a win on March 3rd should count the same as a win on April 3rd and count the same as a win on May 3rd.



Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 05, 2009, 05:24:46 PM
I ALSO HAVE NO TIES TO WPI,......NOR TO CURRY....but, believe based on all stats from the last few weeks, for all of these teams, provided in posts over the past few days....it seems both Curry and WPI,  should get the nod over WC...  

In today's national poll released, Curry is # 16, Wheaton # 22 fyi...    Of course, that's just a poll, determined by 25 coaches, is it?   Are the coaches names/teams listed anywhere, publically for viewing?    just curious.  I assume that's 25 different conferences represented----out of how many total conferences in D3 overall?  
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 05, 2009, 05:31:23 PM
Hey, Paul....I normally agree with that, "game is a game...win is a win" approach, so, not sure you're really in the minority there...as I believe that approach gets all the teams with similar "overall" records, and/or with similar regional records, on the table with all others for more detailed comparisons.   I just think--as far as "bubble teams" are concerned, the last 10 games can be (should be?) just one more way to differentiate between the final few teams being considered in any given region---and eventually when comparing teams from 3,000 miles apart for a final invite or 2.   All else being fairl equal----you gotta take a team that's 8-2 in last 10 vs a 5-5 team, assuming competition is similar?   That's just my thought process--if no other factors allow separating....
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rbgosfan on May 05, 2009, 07:11:32 PM
The "a game is a game" theory no matter when it occurred is 100% accurate when everything boils down to winning percentage being the deciding factor like all professional sports where you have to win your division or have the next best record to make a wild card.

However once any subjectivity is put into it and a committe is deciding who plays in the playoffs then I can no longer agree with "a game is a game". Almost  no one likes the BCS for D1 football but you can not tell me a loss in your first game of the season is as  harmful as a loss in your last game. The games played during crunch time and closest to the decision point definitely influence selection committees more and I think they should.

If you are selecting an at large team, it should be someone who has played well for the entire year but is also playing at a high level at the end of the season. Had Wheaton won the regular season and then lost in the tournament, I would have thought they fully deserved a bid, but a 5-5 record to close the season with losses to many of the teams battling them for the Pool C bid, I do not  think they should get in ahead of WPI.

I also do not think Curry's overall body of work makes them deserving of a Pool C bid. They had a great record but did not play many of the top teams in the region. Their biggest win of the season was over Wheaton, but that came when Wheaton was in their downward spiral at the end of the season.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 05, 2009, 07:20:00 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 05, 2009, 05:18:37 PM
I might be in the minority here but I think a game is a game is a game (assuming the competition is equal).  Other than conference tournament games (that result in an AQ) I think that a win on March 3rd should count the same as a win on April 3rd and count the same as a win on May 3rd.

Paul,

I agree in theory, however, when we put that into practice, I'm not sure human nature allows it to fully apply. Look at the BCS in college football. A team is 11-0 and loses a game in the last week of the regular season. That team will most surely get passed by most all other 1 loss teams, even teams they defeated earlier in the year.

So, the question in my mind becomes, should the polls reflect the teams that are playing the best ballor should they reflect the best teams. 'Cause we all know the best team does not always win.

Word




Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 05, 2009, 07:22:02 PM
Maybe their schedule wasnt as difficult as Wheaton's, but that is why they need to have a better record....oh wait, Curry does...a lot better record.

I don't care you who play, how does 34-7 not get you in?? You can't always control who you play at this level...a lot is decided by your conference.

The fact is Curry deserves to be in. If 34-7 doesnt get you in, I don't know what does. If the committeee is going to take a 16-17 loss team from the NJAC, it makes no sense to leave Curry home. Although strength of schedule counts for something, so does WINNING....lets not forget they BEAT wheaton head to head

Curry has a better record and won head to head
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 05, 2009, 07:37:34 PM
A win is a win should be the case but we all know that teams that make runs at the end of the year look better than early season runs, look at RIC in the LEC.  I would like to see Curry in, and i think that they deserve to be in, however they had thier chance to win thier conference and screwy things happen when you leave your fate in the hands of other people.  WIn the AQ and its a mute point, Curry now has to worry because they didnt get the job done!! Im not hating on Curry or Wheaton for that matter, just if both teams had taken care of business they wouldnt have to worry.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 05, 2009, 07:44:04 PM
D3Baseballnut----well said....end of discussion...(ok, I doubt that, but:)))  34-7 along with a solid regional record....should be a no-brainer. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Paul Heering on May 05, 2009, 08:19:11 PM
To clarify my earlier comment. 

I meant the time on the calendar that the win took place should not effect how important the win is/was. 

Of course in any level of college when you get to playoff bids, the level of the competition does matter that said wins came against matters.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 08:34:49 PM
WPI- in
Curry -out
Wheaton - out

Common guys, there has to be another pool team with a better story than Curry & Wheaton!
I think there's too much New England tunnel vision going on here.

Others? ???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 08:40:36 PM
How about the team Johns Hopkins slid by due to rain today?
Talk about back-dooring into the tourney...
Wheaton & Curry are doing the rain dance!!! :D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 05, 2009, 08:40:50 PM
Quote from: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 08:34:49 PM
WPI- in
Curry -out
Wheaton - out

Common guys, there has to be another pool team with a better story than Curry & Wheaton!
I think there's too much New England tunnel vision going on here.

Others? ???

I don't think 34-7 is tunnel vision....its the 5th best winning percentage in d3 baseball
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 05, 2009, 08:46:30 PM
Quote from: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 08:40:36 PM
How about the team Johns Hopkins slid by due to rain today?
Talk about back-dooring into the tourney...
Wheaton & Curry are doing the rain dance!!! :D


Dude...ppl are hating on Hopkins...they were the team that had to be beat twice...that was not exactly likely to happen. Plus, that rule almost turned out to hurt them as well. They didnt finagle their way in.....they didnt make the rule.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 08:50:44 PM
d3baseballnut,

Need a little cheese with that Wheaton wine?

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 05, 2009, 08:52:40 PM
Quote from: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 08:34:49 PM
WPI- in
Curry -out
Wheaton - out

Common guys, there has to be another pool team with a better story than Curry & Wheaton!
I think there's too much New England tunnel vision going on here.

Others? ???

Tunnel vision? The New England region is the deepest region in the nation, hands down. No shot NE is awarded just one at-large bid.

And honestly, Curry has a much better argument over WPI. I don't care that they beat Wheaton 2x and Trinity, they won 8 less  games than Curry.

Curry - In
WPI/Wheaton - One in, one out
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 05, 2009, 08:58:18 PM
Quote from: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 08:50:44 PM
d3baseballnut,

Need a little cheese with that Wheaton wine?



whatever...you guys have no shot against Southern Maine and ECSU :P
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 08:58:34 PM
The GNAC,

WNEC pounded Curry 2 out of 3 games and should have had the other xtra inning game.  We're talking about "no respect" WNEC!

Curry - out
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 09:01:02 PM
d2baseball nut,

Did WNEC and ECSU play this year?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 05, 2009, 09:04:17 PM
Quote from: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 09:01:02 PM
d2baseball nut,

Did WNEC and ECSU play this year?

Welcome...

click here.

http://www.d3baseball.com/

On the left side rail, at the top, click over New England Region.

Find ECSU and click.

Then click on the ECSU "Official Web Site".

You will find the schedule on the school's web site.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 05, 2009, 09:05:10 PM
Quote from: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 08:58:34 PM
The GNAC,

WNEC pounded Curry 2 out of 3 games and should have had the other xtra inning game.  We're talking about "no respect" WNEC!

Curry - out

I understand you're a proud parent of a WNEC player (hint: try hiding your e-mail address in your profile if you'd like true anonymity), but in my opinion that clouds your judgment a bit. I'm an impartial viewer, and the fact remains that Curry's body of work trumps 2 losses to WNEC, a very good team in it's own right. As D3Nut said, Curry's winning percentage is 5th in the nation... 5th! You simply cannot leave them out of the regionals, especially in favor of a less deserving team in Wheaton or WPI.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 05, 2009, 09:11:39 PM
Quote from: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 09:01:02 PM
d2baseball nut,

Did WNEC and ECSU play this year?

prove it to me in the tournament.....you plow through everyone there...then ill listen.

Having played in several regionals, that is where the big teams come to play
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rbgosfan on May 05, 2009, 09:16:51 PM
d3baseballnut,
Yes WNEC did play AT ECSU this year, at a time when ECSU  was ranked number 1. The result was:

WNEC 14 ECSU 3.

fact on another thread DGilblair mentioned  to wordsmith that he was rooting for Curry in TCCC tournament because he did NOT want to see WNEC at Mansfield again this year.

I understand Curry's winning percentage is strong and they do have a good case but in my opinion it was aided by weaker competition than some others played and again in my opinion I think that WPI should get the bid before Curry. A second at large from NE should be given to ESCU or USM, whoever ends up losing in the LEC tournament.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 05, 2009, 09:20:14 PM
Well according to the committee and Ralph Turner, the picks are done nationally, even though they are done by comparing regional records.

As stupid as that is, thats true.

Therefore, you pick 13 pool C teams that you think deserve to get in over Curry, and I guarantee you for the last 4 or 5, you will be having to purposefully overlook Curry to justify the other's teams' inclusion.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rbgosfan on May 05, 2009, 09:21:04 PM
d3baseballnut,
Check your facts, WNEC is in the regionals for the 4th consecutive year and five out of the last six and while not having won the regional yet, have finished as high as 3rd in 2006. Whether they plow through this year or not, they have shown that they deserve to play with the best in not only NE, but the best in the country.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBear210 on May 05, 2009, 09:22:09 PM
d3baseballnut,
I agree,  The TCCC tourney is nothing compared to the New England Regional tourney.
34-7 didn't get it done in TCCC and WNEC is now in their 4th straight regional.
Curry - out
Wheaton - out
WPI - in
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3spectator on May 05, 2009, 10:12:17 PM
I may have overlooked WPI a bit here with their in-region record.  I just took a quick glance at their schedule and what not and noticed that WPI couldn't run this kid Fahey more into the ground if they dug a hole and stuck him in there and told him himself to start digging.  Does anybody else see this?  The kid has thrown 80.2 innings with the next CLOSEST being 48.2!!!  That is absolutely absurd and still to put up the numbers he has this season, hats off.  However how much depth does WPI have in the pitching?  I looked at the box scores of a couple of in-region games they had and Fahey had thrown against St. Joes, Babson (double header), and Wheaton (double header).  He also came in, after starting a game 2 days BEFORE, against Trinity (Conn.) and shut them down as he threw 2.2 innings giving up no runs and 1 hit.  That game ended up 9-7, without this kid, I don't see WPI pulling that one out, but nobody can tell.   

What I'm getting at here is once WPI gets beyond Fahey, who seems to be their ace starter and closer as he leads the team with 3 saves along with 7 wins, they don't have much depth.  I looked at their offense and they have one guy batting over .350, Wheaton has 4, Southern Maine has 7, EConn has 7, just to name a few.  I don't know if the committee looks at how far a team can go in the tourney or not, but I guess it can be a consideration of the human element, again.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rbgosfan on May 05, 2009, 10:21:19 PM
Trying to keep an open mind, I looked more into Curry's 34 and 7 record and found that once they returned home from Florida, they played only 1 non conference game on the road. That game was against RIC and they lost. All other non conference games were at their home field. If I remember the handbook correctly home wins do not carry as much weight as road wins which is another fact working against Curry.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 05, 2009, 10:40:19 PM
d3spectator:

Very nice research on WPI's pitching...and I agree they are a tough call for tourney committee...   guess they'd need to throw their ace in 1st game of Regionals.., then pray for 4 days of rain?? so he could start their 2nd game also, on 4 days rest!?

Although Wheaton has 4 guys at .350 or higher, as you said... they are 3-5 in their last 8 games and have been outscored 69-45 during that stretch.    Their pitching has about the same winning %  (.375) as their top 4 batters' avg lately, so....not sure I'd give them the nod to go too far in Regionals either, if that's something to be considered as you suggest?    2 of those losses were to ECSU (11-0) and to UMass- Dartmouth 12-9 (a 14-28 team approx?) so.....  lots of tough calls this year, as far as at large bids go in New Eng.     just how many will be doled out?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 05, 2009, 10:56:11 PM
Quote from: rbgosfan on May 05, 2009, 10:21:19 PM
Trying to keep an open mind, I looked more into Curry's 34 and 7 record and found that once they returned home from Florida, they played only 1 non conference game on the road. That game was against RIC and they lost. All other non conference games were at their home field. If I remember the handbook correctly home wins do not carry as much weight as road wins which is another fact working against Curry.
No, the OOWP/OWP changed that.  :)


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3spectator on May 05, 2009, 11:48:08 PM
I'm still torn by this whole Wheaton/Curry/WPI thing.  I did some more research and looked at non-conference in-region games only and this is what I came up with.

Curry played: Bowdoin (2), Johnson and Wales, Babson, Wheaton, RIC, and Bridgewater
- They played 7 games and went 5-2 in those games

WPI played: St. Joes (2), Fitchburg State (3), Umass Dartmouth (2), Johnson and Wales, Becker, Worcester State, Nichols, Trinity, Westfield State, Brandeis, Elms, and Framingham State (2)
- They played 17 games and went 15-2 in those games

Wheaton played: WNEC (2), Roger Williams (2), Rhode Island College (2), Umass-Dartmouth (2), Endicott, Brandeis (2), Suffolk, USM, Bridgewater, Curry, Keene State, and ECSU.
- They played 17 games and went 12-5 in those games.

I also looked at the teams they played and compiled then added wins and losses and this is what it looks like:

Curry's opponents were overall 142-97

WPI's opponents were overall 238-215

Wheaton's opponents were overall 299-177 (this is without ECSU, Keene, or USM finishing the LEC)

- Did Curry's coach just forget to schedule ANY out of conference games at some point? Does this show any justice to how strength of schedule can influence the committee?  Just a little more breakdown before Sunday comes along. Just something I thought would pass the time until Sunday. Thoughts? Thanks guys.

Spec
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3ball123 on May 06, 2009, 12:04:25 AM
Spec-

Check out the definition of an "in region" game.  Wheaton beat TCNJ twice, and Hopkins/william patterson once each.  Those are in region wins as well.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 12:05:49 AM
D3SPEC--

Great stats you worked up, thank you.....

that sos probably helps explain why Wheaton's team ERA is # 73 nationally, at 4.77.....while WPI's is # 23 at 3.90    

I didn't bother checking Curry's team e.r.a.....since their non conference, in region schedule only included 7 games...vs 17 for both WPI and for Wheaton.  
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 12:21:14 AM
D3ball,

What I did was click on New England region here on this site in the upper left hand corner, so that it lists all the teams in the New England field and those are the teams I saw.  If I'm not mistaken Hopkins is in the Mid-Atlantic region, but if those three teams are considered in the New England region then all the more power to Wheaton scheduling 21 games and going 16-5 in those games. Thanks.

Spec
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2009, 12:23:53 AM
Quote from: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 12:21:14 AM
D3ball,

What I did was click on New England region here on this site in the upper left hand corner, so that it lists all the teams in the New England field and those are the teams I saw.  If I'm not mistaken Hopkins is in the Mid-Atlantic region, but if those three teams are considered in the New England region then all the more power to Wheaton scheduling 21 games and going 16-5 in those games. Thanks.

Spec


The link to the Handbook is on this page.   :)

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6387.0

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 12:36:07 AM
D3ball,

You are right, I was going by the wrong thing apparently, or maybe I'm just getting confused (new to D3, sorry).  TCNJ, Hopkins, and William Patterson do count as in-region wins.  Revisions to my previous post look like this now:

Wheaton plays 21 games going 16-5 while opponents win/loss record is now 370-223

Sorry about that, guess that's not very good research on my part  >:(

Spec
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2009, 02:05:48 AM
Quote from: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 12:36:07 AM
D3ball,

You are right, I was going by the wrong thing apparently, or maybe I'm just getting confused (new to D3, sorry).  TCNJ, Hopkins, and William Patterson do count as in-region wins.  Revisions to my previous post look like this now:

Wheaton plays 21 games going 16-5 while opponents win/loss record is now 370-223

Sorry about that, guess that's not very good research on my part  >:(

Spec
No problem...

we have several more fans providing research this season.

We don't have the databases that Pat has for football and hoops,  (and the untimely death of Patrick Abegg was a huge loss!!!!!!)  so we need to build them.

Just do you research, throw it out for other fans to proofread and double-check and move onto the next item of interest.   :)

You have a great group of D3 fans on these boards, and it is getting better every year!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3ball123 on May 06, 2009, 09:41:56 AM
Moc-

If you check out "nebaseball44"'s e-mail address, it becomes very clear which program he is involved with, and in what capacity he is involved.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3ball123 on May 06, 2009, 09:43:12 AM
...Which makes one wonder if he is in a position to be publicly questioning that certain team's flaws in this forum.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 06, 2009, 09:49:09 AM
Guys if Babson does have 4 quality starters, and i have not seen Babson play this year at all so i will take your word that they are 4 quality starters its not that big deal if they dont have a 5th.  In the regionals you can win the darn with 4 quality starters as long as you stay in the winners bracket, but that is true of any team.  Yeah you may need to piece together a game with a couple from this guy and a couple from that but so wont every other team. The regionals are some great baseball and I expect all teams will have an all hands on deck approach to their games, so if you have 4 starters that are as good as advertised (a la Trinity last year) you should be fine.  LIke i have said i have not seen Babson play but will Babsons 3 and 4 starters be able to stop the powerful offenses of the LEC and Trinity?  I dont know i am just asking that question.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 09:55:45 AM
Hey, D3BALL123....Thanks--I will do that...immediately!   I guess I had trusted everyone to be contributing from somewhat similar levels in here. ---as fans only---except moderators, etc whom show whom they are and act accordingly from what I've seen...   I hope this isn't going to be disappointing to me, from that standpoint--when I do check his email, as you say.    I am new in here as you know---and try to share what "limited" info I have as a "true fan"-----not in here to take a stand for a school for which I'm employed, etc of part of a paid staff, etc.   I hope that's not what you're hinting at??---but--I appreciate the "heads up" in any event-- and will now check the email, as you suggest.   This would be beyond disappointing, if I'm reading into your message correctly.   wow.  
Thanks, in advance, for watching my back---and/or for watching everyone else at our levels backs?      I had assumed it was just another dad/uncle, etc of a conference foe whom was witnessing games from the opposite side of the "bleachers" as I was on....    sounds like that's not the case?   will be back here soon...    again--thank you.  
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 10:36:15 AM
Hey, KCSFAN---Good to see you back in general new eng topic!   Great question, will their 4 starters be able to stop all the potent offenses in this area?     In short---no way.   Can they "limit" those offenses, to some degree---"maybe--- yes"?    Di I sound confident?  ??? :))   Your point about a team w/4 quality starters, is exactly where i was coming from.   That gives them "a shot" at doing well.....   and bingo---as you say---they would need to find that "winners' bracket" early---and often, like all others.   Piecing together other pitching, will be possible---but---they really need to win the early games and hope to avoid back-to-back games vs the best hitting teams early in the regionals.   Maybe stating some obvious here---but---I think a couple of those USM/ECSU/Trinity teams, could lose game 1--then roar back, mostly with their bats, to get to late rounds.   I would not feel great about Babson's chances, if they need to "roar back" with their bats....in the losers' bracket....  Good luck to Keene State---I lost track of where they stand in the raindrops now....    Not sure how their pitching is this year---but--I did notice them atop the batting avg in the U.S. !!!    Nice!!   That has to give you the, "we can win any game" feeling......as an 8 run inning can happen in a heartbeat!     
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 06, 2009, 10:49:07 AM
Quote from: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 10:36:15 AM
Hey, KCSFAN---  Good luck to Keene State---I lost track of where they stand in the raindrops now....    Not sure how their pitching is this year---but--I did notice them atop the batting avg in the U.S. !!!    Nice!!   That has to give you the, "we can win any game" feeling......as an 8 run inning can happen in a heartbeat!     

I posted this back in early March...KSC is as good 1-7 or 8 as any one.

Word ;D

D3baseball.com / New England Region / Re: BB: LEC: Little East Conference  on: March 16, 2009, 12:49:35 pm 

363dp,
.....
As I have said here before, KSC is, IMO, one year away from a trip to the Appleton. The pitchers are strong, but young and will have their ups and downs. The line-up 1-9 is not as strong as Wheaton or ESCU, but 1-7, even 1-8 is every bit as strong or better. KSC as well has players on the bench who would start for many other teams.

1- Jeff Perkins -Senior(I agree with the DChevy-most underrated player in the LEC) Last yr- .391- 26 RBI 13 SB 50R
2- Jamie Chevalier -Senior - Great stick could hit anywahere in the line-up    .355 -2 -34
3- Keith Patnode - Junior D-I transfer 2nd best left handed hitter to come out of Keene in 35 years
4-Anthony Cipolla - Soph - Short compact tough out with decent power         .318 - 30 RBI
5-Bobby Doyon - Soph - 2008- ECAC POY; LEC Rookie of the Year               .408 - 6- 55
6- Cody Callhan - Freshman - Bam Bam I'll call him for now .647 11-17 2 HRs, 5 Dbls, 14 RBI in first 4 games
7- Beau Derek - Senior - A perfect 10 Last year .296 13 hrs 50 RBI
8 -Jon Barber - Soph - Excellent hitter- Solid stick if ankle heals last Yr - .439- 1- 13

....
Pretty good line-up mates..... Interesting mix with the Freshmen pitching, will the bats give the young arms time to mature? Will the defense hold-up, especially at the corners in the outfield, and 3rd base?

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 10:58:02 AM
Thanks word-----a man not afraid to go out on a limb....gotta love that stuff!   Love the stats again---and, may have to give you a (10) "Beau Derek" on your prediction from early March.......    it's almost time to "play ball"....as we are inside 1 week now, from the 1st pitch in our regionals....
Oh---thanks for sending YA BOY my way yesterday---so, we could GIVE HIM A LIL "no boy" adjustment....:))
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 11:03:16 AM
Moc,

As you can see from other posts I have put up on here I'm kind of a stat junky, but also realize that stats mean nothing in a sense that baseball is a funny game.  Things kind of fall the way they may on any given day.  But I also realize stats don't lie either so this is what I dug up and put together (relatively quickly).

Babson certainly did not duck any in-region opponents playing the likes of Wheaton, Suffolk, Keene, Curry, and USM which is in my opinion a testament to the coaching staff challenging his players.  I'm looking at the box scores of those games and seeing that when Babson played Suffolk, Suffolk threw what looks to be their #3 guy.  When Babson played Curry, Curry threw not a legit starter seems to be a spot starter as he has 3 of starts in 11 appearances.  Babson plays USM, USM throws what seems to be a spot starter (seems like all of USM is spot starters) but he has an ERA of 6.87 (Yates).

What I'm trying to put forth here is yes they did not duck any opponents this year on their schedule, but of those tough opponents the only wins they had were against Wheaton.  And of those losses the teams that played seemed to be throwing their 3 or 4 guys and not 1 or 2s.  They did face Fahey who is a legitimate All-American candidate (lost) and they did beat Gingras (All-American from his junior campaign, doesn't seem to be having quite the same year. Hurt? ???) but other than that no real pitching seen.  So it would seem that their offense didn't fear well   against 3 and 4's how are they going to do when they see 1's and 2's?

As a team they bat .309, which is less than average, especially when you compare the teams that are going to be in this upcoming regional.

You guys do have Aizenstadt who seems to be putting himself together quite a year, but does he match up against Bayer, Therian, Gilblair, Musson, etc...?  And if they do match up (which is not unforseen), can Babson's offense hang with the 1s and 2s of that of ECSU and Trinity?

This is not a knock on Babson at all and I am a firm believer in that baseball is baseball and anything can happen.  Maybe I'm just bored ::) Just wondering what your thoughts are? Have a good one.

Spec
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 11:18:25 AM
SPEC------Nice job, once again......w/stats.   No arguments here either.   Thus, my "Cinderella" approach, as a Babson fan.    Aizenstadt does match up with any/all of those you name....trust me there.  I have witnessed Fahey, Gingras, Simmons (Wheaton closer---all American, I believe?) and 2 outstanding freshmen s.p. for M.I.T. also...each may have been 5-0, 5-1 approx last check...(didn't go back to get their names, sorry)    Aizenstadt takes a back seat to none of the above.  IMO .......     Who won the World Series last year?   the top batting team?  nope.  top pitching team?  nope.....     Phillies?   yup.     As the Beatles once sang...."Come together, right now"....     Ok---a whole different meaning !!!!   But----I say, beware the hot team whom plays well together in May.....in a 4-5 game tourney?    Maybe not Babson this year---agree---but---YO, Adrian.........was it last year they lost in National finals?   I gotta go check....   memory fails me sometimes, as I hurdle that 5-0 marker:(((
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 06, 2009, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 11:03:16 AM
Babson certainly did not duck any in-region opponents playing the likes of Wheaton, Suffolk, Keene, Curry, and USM which is in my opinion a testament to the coaching staff challenging his players.  I'm looking at the box scores of those games and seeing that when Babson played Suffolk, Suffolk threw what looks to be their #3 guy.  When Babson played Curry, Curry threw not a legit starter seems to be a spot starter as he has 3 of starts in 11 appearances.  Babson plays USM, USM throws what seems to be a spot starter (seems like all of USM is spot starters) but he has an ERA of 6.87 (Yates).


Hi Spec,

As most can see from my username, I'm quite familiar with GNAC teams, Suffolk and St. Joe's, in particular. Just wanted to correct you a bit on the Suffolk - Babson game. The pitcher for Suffolk in that one, Jackson, is probably their #1, not their #3, although statistically you'd have a case for that I suppose. Still, he's leading the Rams in innings pitched and strikeouts, and has drawn (and beaten) Suffolk's top competition for the last 3 years.

Not sure if that hinders or supports your argument, just thought I'd put it out there for veracity.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 11:26:42 AM
GNAC--Thanks for beating me to that box score and to Suffolks roster, etc...  I want to say, that was a 2-1 Suffolk victory.....so, a well played/pitched game on both sides, maybe---if I recall the right game?   
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 06, 2009, 11:29:28 AM
Quote from: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 11:26:42 AM
GNAC--Thanks for beating me to that box score and to Suffolks roster, etc...  I want to say, that was a 2-1 Suffolk victory.....so, a well played/pitched game on both sides, maybe---if I recall the right game?   

That's the one.

http://babsonathletics.com/sports/m-basebl/2008-09/news/090324

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 11:52:55 AM
GNAC,

Thanks for that, I was going off of ERA and and record which is naive of me.  Thanks for the correction as I haven't seen Suffolk play (or Babson) for that matter.  Just going off of stats here.

And I was trying to make a case against or for Babson I was trying to show that its going to be a tough road for them with the teams in this year's regional.  But then again I think it's going to be tough for everybody. Baseball is baseball, can't run out the clock here, got to throw the ball over the plate, anything can happen 8)

Spec
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 11:54:18 AM
Sorry WASN'T trying to make case against or for Babson.

Spec
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 06, 2009, 12:08:16 PM
Quote from: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 11:52:55 AM
GNAC,

Thanks for that, I was going off of ERA and and record which is naive of me.  Thanks for the correction as I haven't seen Suffolk play (or Babson) for that matter.  Just going off of stats here.

And I was trying to make a case against or for Babson I was trying to show that its going to be a tough road for them with the teams in this year's regional.  But then again I think it's going to be tough for everybody. Baseball is baseball, can't run out the clock here, got to throw the ball over the plate, anything can happen 8)

Spec

Spec,

Always liked Babson, year in and year out always in the running.  PLUS an outstanding Baseball facility!!!!!  One of the nicest in the NE.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 01:16:23 PM
Just came across an interesting stat.

Southern Maine is 29-2 vs. right handed pitching and 5-3 vs lefties!

Just a little stat for teams and coaches to look at before trying to get on through their lineup during regionals  ;)

Spec
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: PopFisher on May 06, 2009, 03:27:27 PM
MOC 323, GBEAR210, D3spectator, rbgosfan, others...
     Just to weigh in on the Wheaton/Curry/WPI at-large bid matter, I feel, although I have the greatest respect for the Wheaton coach, players, program, tradition, history thing, I do feel that they have under-achieved. I feel that Curry deserves consideration for the 34 wins, albeit weaker schedule than either Wheaton or WPI. In my opinion, WPI has over-achieved, by winning signature games in and out of conference, albeit stubbing their toe in the NEWMAC tourney. It's an incredible feat to catch or take out Wheaton in any given year in the NEWMAC given the rich history of their accomplishments, especially considering the whole recruitment issue, although I know this has nothing to do w/at-large bids, rankings, etc.. It's just a factor for discussion sake when considering the WPI over-achievement given the tougher it is to recruit at that school. Great analysis of WPI stats regarding pitching and offense! which might play into decision if actual discussion is ever made (a point which you called the "human element"). Although you mentioned the over-use of Fahey (# of IP, starter, closer, etc.) which is hard to argue with, they did win 26 games. While you might say that there is no pitching depth, I did check to see that they had a very good #2 (Minor)& #3 (Murphy), I think in that order, that went 5, 6, or 7 wins w/ 2 losses apiece w/respectable ERAs. However, they both had tough outings in the NEWMAC tourney it appears, which sent WPI out early. If either of them can return to seasonal form, their pitching depth returns at least through 3 games. Now Fahey might only have to wait for 1 day's rain! I just think to say they have ONLY Fahey is unfair to the fine seasons that other pitchers had. Also, the "only guy to hit over .350" was last year's NEWMAC "POY" McNee, who along w/Fahey made the 1st Team NEWMAC again this year. But to say that they have ONLY McNee offensively would be unfair also, as there are a number of hitters between .300 - .350 (6 I think from what I looked at), just like you can't say that WPI's rise to respectability is due to any one or two players. Sure, Fahey (ace) and McNee (cleanup) have helped put them on the radar screen over the last 4 years, but other players have had very solid years, or more (Galligan, Bean, McGregor, Moreau, Dignum, McClune, Watkins, Hansen, Walsh, whose stats look like they all contributed). Granted, compared to ECSU, USM, Trinity, and some others, WPI may be softer in pitching and offensive depth, but they have put together a year of over-achievement. They match up well w/ Babson, who they beat twice this year, in both categories, with all due respect to what Babson did in the tourney - great job. Where's Curry in all this - a team that won a ton of games, though not as tough a schedule on road in region. So I like WPI in w/Curry getting greater consideration than Wheaton who, despite past achievement, did not finish well. Another thing to consider is that at least WPI is going in to the ECAC to try and improve their resume, instead fo just sitting around and waiting for a phone call. We don't even know if the committee even considers any of this (your "human element" factor) but, as you have said in multiple posts, it's fun to jump in and give our "2 cents", for however limited our thoughts might be. In the end, a mathematical formula is probably the best way to decide to keep it as objective as possible. It's a formula that, although complicated, maybe the brainiac WPI kids are trying to figure out themselves right now. Whatever happens, let's sit back and enjoy a great regional, and congratulations to all teams being considered for a great season that has us talking about all the possibilities. All of your opinions and research have been great fun! Play Ball!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 06, 2009, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 01:16:23 PM
Just came across an interesting stat.

Southern Maine is 29-2 vs. right handed pitching and 5-3 vs lefties!

Just a little stat for teams and coaches to look at before trying to get on through their lineup during regionals  ;)

Spec


It's not the side the pitchers pitch from that give USM some troubles: it's a certain pitch...I think that all the teams in the LEC know this though...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 04:28:42 PM
This just in:   AS THEY SAY:)))

RE: THE ONGOING WHEATON, WPI, CURRY comparisons---which as one astute reader HAS said, waaaaay back 24 hours ago maybe---THIS may not matter at all, depending on whether Trinity wins tourney and/or if any upsets happen...
BUT---FOR ANY WHOM CARE TO KNOW---I just quickly compiled this short comparison between MANY OF those teams discussed at length...recently in posts...   IT MEANS NOTHING on its own---just more stuff to digest.....for what it's worth here goes---

Nationally, as of all games through May 3rd: from NCAA stat site today--

Team ERA'S----   TOTAL OF 354 TEAMS RANKED

# 4  Trinity, Ct -   2.90 team E.R.A.
# 6  ECSU  ------  3.02 TEAM era
#27 WPI --------- 3.90 tEAM era
# 30 WNEC------- 4.08 ------------( A..Q.)
# 32 SUFFOLK --- 4.14
# 61 CURRY-------4.60
# 73 Wheaton--- 4.77     
# 78  USM-------- 4.79
#108 BABSON --- 5.25 ------------(A.Q.)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: mainefan on May 06, 2009, 05:03:08 PM
d3spectator

It may seem like all of the pitcher's for USM are spot pitchers but they're not. In fact the Yates kid had worked his way into the starting rotation as a freshman. Going into the Babson game his ERA was just over 3.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 07, 2009, 09:22:00 PM
REGIONAL RANKINGS RELEASED TODAY----"3RD AND FINAL PUBLIC LISTING"  *(THO THERE WILL BE ONE MORE RANKING--"NOT MADE PUBLIC" THEY SAY)

One last note re: WPI, vs Curry, vs Wheaton possibilities for at large bid-----if Trinity wins their own tourney. 

As of today:

1) USM
2)ECSU
3)Trinity
4) CURRY 34-7 (30-6 REGION)
5) SUFFOLK
6) WPI (26-11, (25-8 REGION)
7) WHEATON (30-12, (27-10 REGION


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: mans007 on May 08, 2009, 01:44:09 AM
Quote from: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 04:28:42 PM
This just in:   AS THEY SAY:)))

RE: THE ONGOING WHEATON, WPI, CURRY comparisons---which as one astute reader HAS said, waaaaay back 24 hours ago maybe---THIS may not matter at all, depending on whether Trinity wins tourney and/or if any upsets happen...
BUT---FOR ANY WHOM CARE TO KNOW---I just quickly compiled this short comparison between MANY OF those teams discussed at length...recently in posts...   IT MEANS NOTHING on its own---just more stuff to digest.....for what it's worth here goes---

Nationally, as of all games through May 3rd: from NCAA stat site today--

Team ERA'S----   TOTAL OF 354 TEAMS RANKED

# 4  Trinity, Ct -   2.90 team E.R.A.
# 6  ECSU  ------  3.02 TEAM era
#27 WPI --------- 3.90 tEAM era
# 30 WNEC------- 4.08 ------------( A..Q.)
# 32 SUFFOLK --- 4.14
# 61 CURRY-------4.60
# 73 Wheaton--- 4.77     
# 78  USM-------- 4.79
#108 BABSON --- 5.25 ------------(A.Q.)



These stats are a little sqewed because of all of those teams listed except for babson, trinity has played the weakest schedule. Trinity although they can't do anything about there conference schedule, has one of the weakest sos (strenght of schedules) in New England.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 08, 2009, 11:54:34 AM
I hear ya, MANS007....no argument here, on that note----And, I am not "in the know" as far as each of these team's sos vs the others, overall.....    just tossing out info from NCAA site----everyone will digest and evaluate as you did, based on what other specific info we're privy to, and/or based on how closely we each follow the region, vs just following our own 1 team...    I do read what each fan says about others' sos, in general, and, although Trinity may have had almost as "weak" of an overall schedule last year----but, certainly gets some votes/props for mowing down the "stronger" teams, once regionals and NCAA finals confronted them, last year?   Their lack of sos last year (if it was similar to this year??) didn't stop them from showing their stuff, no matter whom they faced come tourney time?   I don't think Trinity should be ranked any lower than 3rd now in New Eng?    Of course, all of these posts are based on opinion and on how each fan interprets the stats made available to us all....so---again--no argument with what you're saying.   
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 09, 2009, 01:40:25 AM
Quote from: mans007 on May 08, 2009, 01:44:09 AM
Quote from: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 04:28:42 PM
This just in:   AS THEY SAY:)))

RE: THE ONGOING WHEATON, WPI, CURRY comparisons---which as one astute reader HAS said, waaaaay back 24 hours ago maybe---THIS may not matter at all, depending on whether Trinity wins tourney and/or if any upsets happen...
BUT---FOR ANY WHOM CARE TO KNOW---I just quickly compiled this short comparison between MANY OF those teams discussed at length...recently in posts...   IT MEANS NOTHING on its own---just more stuff to digest.....for what it's worth here goes---

Nationally, as of all games through May 3rd: from NCAA stat site today--

Team ERA'S----   TOTAL OF 354 TEAMS RANKED

# 4  Trinity, Ct -   2.90 team E.R.A.
# 6  ECSU  ------  3.02 TEAM era
#27 WPI --------- 3.90 tEAM era
# 30 WNEC------- 4.08 ------------( A..Q.)
# 32 SUFFOLK --- 4.14
# 61 CURRY-------4.60
# 73 Wheaton--- 4.77     
# 78  USM-------- 4.79
#108 BABSON --- 5.25 ------------(A.Q.)



These stats are a little sqewed because of all of those teams listed except for babson, trinity has played the weakest schedule. Trinity although they can't do anything about there conference schedule, has one of the weakest sos (strenght of schedules) in New England.

  MANS007-----After re-looking your comments above and checking rankings of opponents....I think you did overlook Babson's schedule a bit? -----I'm sure you neglected to consider some of their "in conference" and newmac tourney games....4 vs Wheaton *(Babson won 3) and WPI twice, along with M.I.T. twice...     outside conference GAMES INCLUDED-----Trinity, Suffolk, RIC, ECSU (rained out), USM, CURRY, WORCESTER STATE, .....SO, when Wheaton was # 3 in Nation THIS YEAR----Babson played them and beat them 3 in a row....tough games, but...wins! (WHEATON THEN DROPPED FROM 3RD, TO 6TH, TO 15TH, NOW 22ND)     BABSON basically played almost all of the top 10 in nation (AT ONE POINT THEY WERE)---so---not sure where you get THE Soft sos for Babson?   Maybe trinity's was soft, but?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DIII Dad on May 09, 2009, 10:48:54 AM
Hey moc323, when I first read mans007 post I took it as if he was saying except for playing Babson, Trinity plays a weak schedule. I guess you could take it either way. I will say it doesn't look like Babson is trying to duck anyone and the NEWMAC seems to be getting stronger as a conferance with the success of Babson as of late. WPI is strong and hopefully can stay that way after they lose Fahey. MIT seems to play teams tough. Wheaton (except for their latest free fall) is usually a strong team.
Good luck to Babson in the regoinals.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 09, 2009, 04:15:04 PM
Quote from: DIII Dad on May 09, 2009, 10:48:54 AM
Hey moc323, when I first read mans007 post I took it as if he was saying except for playing Babson, Trinity plays a weak schedule. I guess you could take it either way. I will say it doesn't look like Babson is trying to duck anyone and the NEWMAC seems to be getting stronger as a conferance with the success of Babson as of late. WPI is strong and hopefully can stay that way after they lose Fahey. MIT seems to play teams tough. Wheaton (except for their latest free fall) is usually a strong team.
Good luck to Babson in the regoinals.

Thanks, D3 DAD----Maybe that's what he did mean---and, I can see that now.    I think I had read that quickly and went by my 1st take on it, the way it was worded....   No biggie either way----but, I think you are correct as he wasn't really talking about Babson there---Trinity was his focus.  I hadn't looked at Trinity's schedule, nor "sos", as he stated----but, I knew Babson's was a tough one overall...    Most prior posts on here which were suggesting "weak schedules" out of conf, had been directed at Curry, as you know...That was the 1st one I've seen, which was aimed at Trinity.  Good luck to whomever you follow also.   Busy week coming for many!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DIII Dad on May 09, 2009, 06:00:20 PM
I follow Wheaton, and they are on serious life support right now. Like the players have said lately, "We didn't take care of buisness when we could have so it's on us". If they don't get in we'll have to give our support to the NEWMAC rep. in the regional.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 09, 2009, 09:33:16 PM
to be honest, it probably won't be the same regionals w/out Wheaton, as they are always there at the end---period.   I guess USM HAS to be invited, though they faltered in last 2 of 3 games......can't imagine them being left out.   Not sure if Trinity won, or is in the finals etc....but--if they win their tourney--I guess that sets up the question of which 1,2 or 3 of the 3 (Curry, Wheaton, WPI) the committee reaches out to?    Lat I knew, WPI played into the finals maybe, of the ECAC, and they know they are also on life support.     Maybe all 3 get an invite?  good luck-----
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 09, 2009, 10:07:53 PM
Quote from: moc323 on May 09, 2009, 09:33:16 PM
to be honest, it probably won't be the same regionals w/out Wheaton, as they are always there at the end---period.   I guess USM HAS to be invited, though they faltered in last 2 of 3 games......can't imagine them being left out.   Not sure if Trinity won, or is in the finals etc....but--if they win their tourney--I guess that sets up the question of which 1,2 or 3 of the 3 (Curry, Wheaton, WPI) the committee reaches out to?    Lat I knew, WPI played into the finals maybe, of the ECAC, and they know they are also on life support.     Maybe all 3 get an invite?  good luck-----


USM had a 35-7 record and beat Wheaton 14-3 head to head: I think it's obvious which team they should take...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 09, 2009, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 09, 2009, 10:07:53 PM
Quote from: moc323 on May 09, 2009, 09:33:16 PM
to be honest, it probably won't be the same regionals w/out Wheaton, as they are always there at the end---period.   I guess USM HAS to be invited, though they faltered in last 2 of 3 games......can't imagine them being left out.   Not sure if Trinity won, or is in the finals etc....but--if they win their tourney--I guess that sets up the question of which 1,2 or 3 of the 3 (Curry, Wheaton, WPI) the committee reaches out to?    Lat I knew, WPI played into the finals maybe, of the ECAC, and they know they are also on life support.     Maybe all 3 get an invite?  good luck-----


USM had a 35-7 record and beat Wheaton 14-3 head to head: I think it's obvious which team they should take...
OF COURSE USM GOES, WELL BEFORE WHEATON....as do WPI and Curry...WPI just won the ECAC tourney today, walking through all teams fairly easily.      No Wheaton this year......
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 11:17:28 PM
Quote from: moc323 on May 09, 2009, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 09, 2009, 10:07:53 PM
Quote from: moc323 on May 09, 2009, 09:33:16 PM
to be honest, it probably won't be the same regionals w/out Wheaton, as they are always there at the end---period.   I guess USM HAS to be invited, though they faltered in last 2 of 3 games......can't imagine them being left out.   Not sure if Trinity won, or is in the finals etc....but--if they win their tourney--I guess that sets up the question of which 1,2 or 3 of the 3 (Curry, Wheaton, WPI) the committee reaches out to?    Lat I knew, WPI played into the finals maybe, of the ECAC, and they know they are also on life support.     Maybe all 3 get an invite?  good luck-----


USM had a 35-7 record and beat Wheaton 14-3 head to head: I think it's obvious which team they should take...
OF COURSE USM GOES, WELL BEFORE WHEATON....as do WPI and Curry...WPI just won the ECAC tourney today, walking through all teams fairly easily.      No Wheaton this year......
Those WPI wins in the ECAC are in-region and get figured into In-Region W/L results.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 10, 2009, 12:35:18 AM
Quote from: moc323 on May 09, 2009, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 09, 2009, 10:07:53 PM
Quote from: moc323 on May 09, 2009, 09:33:16 PM
to be honest, it probably won't be the same regionals w/out Wheaton, as they are always there at the end---period.   I guess USM HAS to be invited, though they faltered in last 2 of 3 games......can't imagine them being left out.   Not sure if Trinity won, or is in the finals etc....but--if they win their tourney--I guess that sets up the question of which 1,2 or 3 of the 3 (Curry, Wheaton, WPI) the committee reaches out to?    Lat I knew, WPI played into the finals maybe, of the ECAC, and they know they are also on life support.     Maybe all 3 get an invite?  good luck-----


USM had a 35-7 record and beat Wheaton 14-3 head to head: I think it's obvious which team they should take...
OF COURSE USM GOES, WELL BEFORE WHEATON....as do WPI and Curry...WPI just won the ECAC tourney today, walking through all teams fairly easily.      No Wheaton this year......



I misread your post...Sorry bout that...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 10, 2009, 06:23:39 AM
I think that if WPI gets in, teams may want to re-think there position about playing in the ECAC tourney for no other reason than to add possible in -region wins for the committee to look at. But also if a team loses a couple it could hurt them.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DIII Dad on May 10, 2009, 11:18:07 AM
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 10, 2009, 06:23:39 AM
I think that if WPI gets in, teams may want to re-think there position about playing in the ECAC tourney for no other reason than to add possible in -region wins for the committee to look at. But also if a team loses a couple it could hurt them.
I agree that it could hurt them if a team loses, but if your on the bubble already wouldn't you take the chance to try and get some in regions wins to help yourself. Take a team like Wheaton they probably had nothing to lose playing the ECAC. If they win it, it might help. They could have gotten a win over WPI that could have helped. In my opinion I thought they should have played in it to try and help themselves. Now it doesn't seem to matter, they are likely done. But crazier things have happened with the selections.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dubbc on May 10, 2009, 11:54:26 AM
In order to play in the ECAC's you have to schedule fewer games (36 i believe) AND leave an extra week open at the end of the year (this means taking away a week from indoor practice in the winter) both things wouldn't make sense for a team like wheaton to do since they usually get an AQ bid
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 10, 2009, 12:23:14 PM
I agree with the, "if you're already on the bubble", then play ECAC's if you can do so...Why not?  If you lose a couple more---you had your chance to shine and show you do belong in NCAA's, vs letting other teams play and move (further?) ahead of you in the final week of rankings.....(WPI/Wheaton)    now WPI is showing 5-6 wins in a row at year end---vs Wheaton losing 2 of their last 3.  I fthe committee had them fairly even with 1 week left for final bid---guess whom gets the nod?   It still is a "guess" for us fans.........but, I agree you want to give the committee as much favorable info to consider in the end.    The 1 week of indoors missed, may be more than made up for on the Arizona trip and the keeping your schedule at 36 games may also save you a few more arms for the NCAA's....?    I think the " usually gets an A.Q. bid thought process may need slight adjusting in future years, with the arrival of WPI, MIT, Babson the last few years.   Not sure the A.Q. bid is a "guarantee" any longer....Why assume that, when you can cya a little at the end by leaving the option for ECAC?     Playing that tourney may also keep your current rotation in sinc vs having all 4 starters with 2 weeks off before game one of NCAA's?    Rest is good for those whom need rest---but, as we all know, sometimes starters are in grooves you don't want to take 2 weeks off of at tourney time.     Again---if you are off for 2 weeks--you have no choices and no way to help your cause, if ya end up on that bubble.    The competition in NEWMAC may be more even now, vs in its 1st 8-9 years of existence?   
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 11, 2009, 02:50:39 PM
All-NE thoughts - because I am bored at work.

C - Killeen (Trin), 1B - Graham (Trin), 2B - Piancentini (Trin), SS - Burleson (USM), 3B - Castillo (ECSU), OF - Doyon (KSC), D'Alfonso (USM), Fatse (WNEC), UTL - Moran (SJM), Gilblair (ECSU), P - Bayer (Trin), Fahey (WPI), Aizenstadt (Bab), RP - Simmons (Wheat)

There is a very distinct LEC and Trinity flavor to my list, but the numbers and talent make it hard to have it any other way.  If anyone has suggestions for 2B, I am open to hearing them.  Piancentini's numbers were not as good as I realized.  Also, that 3rd pitcher is very up in the air.  Bayer and Fahey are locks, but several could be put up against Aizenstadt.  I am sure people will have questions on Fatse, but his 66 RBI are very impressive. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 11, 2009, 02:55:58 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 11, 2009, 02:50:39 PMAll-NE thoughts - because I am bored at work.C - Killeen (Trin), 1B - Graham (Trin), 2B - Piancentini (Trin), SS - Burleson (USM), 3B - Castillo (ECSU), OF - Doyon (KSC), D'Alfonso (USM), Fatse (WNEC), UTL - Moran (SJM), Gilblair (ECSU), P - Bayer (Trin), Fahey (WPI), Aizenstadt (Bab), RP - Simmons (Wheat)There is a very distinct LEC and Trinity flavor to my list, but the numbers and talent make it hard to have it any other way.  If anyone has suggestions for 2B, I am open to hearing them.  Piancentini's numbers were not as good as I realized.  Also, that 3rd pitcher is very up in the air.  Bayer and Fahey are locks, but several could be put up against Aizenstadt.  I am sure people will have questions on Fatse, but his 66 RBI are very impressive. 
I am not very good at these list but I think Ryan Pike would have to be on there somewhereAVG  .359  10HR  65RBI  with 21 SB
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on May 11, 2009, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 11, 2009, 02:55:58 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 11, 2009, 02:50:39 PMAll-NE thoughts - because I am bored at work.C - Killeen (Trin), 1B - Graham (Trin), 2B - Piancentini (Trin), SS - Burleson (USM), 3B - Castillo (ECSU), OF - Doyon (KSC), D'Alfonso (USM), Fatse (WNEC), UTL - Moran (SJM), Gilblair (ECSU), P - Bayer (Trin), Fahey (WPI), Aizenstadt (Bab), RP - Simmons (Wheat)There is a very distinct LEC and Trinity flavor to my list, but the numbers and talent make it hard to have it any other way.  If anyone has suggestions for 2B, I am open to hearing them.  Piancentini's numbers were not as good as I realized.  Also, that 3rd pitcher is very up in the air.  Bayer and Fahey are locks, but several could be put up against Aizenstadt.  I am sure people will have questions on Fatse, but his 66 RBI are very impressive. 
I am not very good at these list but I think Ryan Pike would have to be on there somewhereAVG  .359  10HR  65RBI  with 21 SB

Great list Rick-- I would agree with hockeyfan that Pike should probably be in the OF
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: TheGNAC on May 11, 2009, 04:13:38 PM
Bobby Barrett from Suffolk needs to be on that list somewhere, too.

.384 BA, 13 doubles, 5 triples, 7 HR, 66 RBI, .685 SLG%, 8-9 in stolen bases while catching 35 games.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 11, 2009, 04:57:42 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 11, 2009, 02:50:39 PM
All-NE thoughts - because I am bored at work.

C - Killeen (Trin), 1B - Graham (Trin), 2B - Piancentini (Trin), SS - Burleson (USM), 3B - Castillo (ECSU), OF - Doyon (KSC), D'Alfonso (USM), Fatse (WNEC), UTL - Moran (SJM), Gilblair (ECSU), P - Bayer (Trin), Fahey (WPI), Aizenstadt (Bab), RP - Simmons (Wheat)

There is a very distinct LEC and Trinity flavor to my list, but the numbers and talent make it hard to have it any other way.  If anyone has suggestions for 2B, I am open to hearing them.  Piancentini's numbers were not as good as I realized.  Also, that 3rd pitcher is very up in the air.  Bayer and Fahey are locks, but several could be put up against Aizenstadt.  I am sure people will have questions on Fatse, but his 66 RBI are very impressive. 

maybe add sean cleary (catcher.babson to your list?   B. Bessinger (babson) on list maybe also?   2 very good greshmen sp at M.I.T. you could think about in a 4 slot?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 11, 2009, 04:59:16 PM
Quote from: moc323 on May 11, 2009, 04:57:42 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 11, 2009, 02:50:39 PM
All-NE thoughts - because I am bored at work.

C - Killeen (Trin), 1B - Graham (Trin), 2B - Piancentini (Trin), SS - Burleson (USM), 3B - Castillo (ECSU), OF - Doyon (KSC), D'Alfonso (USM), Fatse (WNEC), UTL - Moran (SJM), Gilblair (ECSU), P - Bayer (Trin), Fahey (WPI), Aizenstadt (Bab), RP - Simmons (Wheat)

There is a very distinct LEC and Trinity flavor to my list, but the numbers and talent make it hard to have it any other way.  If anyone has suggestions for 2B, I am open to hearing them.  Piancentini's numbers were not as good as I realized.  Also, that 3rd pitcher is very up in the air.  Bayer and Fahey are locks, but several could be put up against Aizenstadt.  I am sure people will have questions on Fatse, but his 66 RBI are very impressive. 

maybe add sean cleary (catcher.babson to your list?   B. Bessinger (babson) on list maybe also?   2 very good greshmen sp at M.I.T. you could think about in a 4 slot?
freshmen sp, not grehmen:)))   don't hv their names but both were about 5-1 at last look?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 11, 2009, 05:23:48 PM
How about John Parke (Econn) 2B and Jim Schult (EConn) OF? Could Musson, and Fontaine have been considered if they were the only ones on their staff? I think each of these kids would rather collect the memories of possibly playing well enough to go to Appleton.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 11, 2009, 06:39:03 PM
ecfan - I would say that four LEC OF's were the first four I left off (Pike, Schult, Perkins, Callahan).  I think Parke/Besinger/Piancentini all bring different things to the table and are pretty much neck and neck at 2B (at second thought I would go with Parke).  Musson and Fontaine would be the next two pitchers. 

The thing I felt bad about when I first made that list was that lack of a player from Suffolk and Curry.  Let's say Barrett is our 1st team All-NE DH!

moc - Cleary?  A freshman catcher who had a nice first year, but All-NE?!?  Killeen is the clear 1st teamer and my pick for POY.

Forgot to add this to my first post:

NE POY - Killeen (Trinity)
NE PitchOY - Bayer (Trinity)
NE FOY - Callahan (KSC)   
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rbgosfan on May 11, 2009, 07:07:40 PM
You had  Andrew Fatse from WNEC in the outfield, but he actually played 2B which is where you were looking for someone. Also have to consider Chris Newell from WNEC in the outfield.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 11, 2009, 07:30:13 PM
Problem solved:  2B - Fatse (WNEC), OF - Pike (USM)

IMHO - That team I named would be the best DI team in NE.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on May 11, 2009, 07:32:52 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 11, 2009, 07:30:13 PM
Problem solved:  2B - Fatse (WNEC), OF - Pike (USM)

IMHO - That team I named would be the best DI team in NE.

Isn't that like being the best barbecue joint in New England?  [chuckle]
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 11, 2009, 07:56:08 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 11, 2009, 07:30:13 PM
Problem solved:  2B - Fatse (WNEC), OF - Pike (USM)

IMHO - That team I named would be the best DI team in NE.

Rick,

Bravo on above comment.

I think this is why the D-III/D-II all star teams are winning more often over the D-I all stars at Fenway Park in June
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 11, 2009, 08:08:38 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 11, 2009, 06:39:03 PM
ecfan - I would say that four LEC OF's were the first four I left off (Pike, Schult, Perkins, Callahan).  I think Parke/Besinger/Piancentini all bring different things to the table and are pretty much neck and neck at 2B (at second thought I would go with Parke).  Musson and Fontaine would be the next two pitchers. 

The thing I felt bad about when I first made that list was that lack of a player from Suffolk and Curry.  Let's say Barrett is our 1st team All-NE DH!

moc - Cleary?  A freshman catcher who had a nice first year, but All-NE?!?  Killeen is the clear 1st teamer and my pick for POY.

Forgot to add this to my first post:

NE POY - Killeen (Trinity)
NE PitchOY - Bayer (Trinity)
NE FOY - Callahan (KSC)   

Hey, Rick-----sorry for any confusion---I wasn't suggesting Cleary "over" anyone there---just thought you either had left all catchers out, by mistake, or---maybe were looking for a 2nd suggestion at catcher behind Killeen?   I may have just missed seeing any catchers on your orig list---or, didn't realize Kileen is a catcher...(thought you had him at 1b---I missed the "c" before his name:)))   newboy here----we were rained out I believe, vs Trinity....or. I couldn't make that game?? so, unable to see Killeen play this year.  I missed seeing him play this year, though, have read about him almost weekely...   Let's recommend Cleary for ROY candidate instead then, or at least ROY at catcher position:))??     
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 11, 2009, 08:30:07 PM
Unless voters were sleeping -->Jeff Perkins OF KSC should be on the first team All NE as well as Andrew Fatse - 2B from WNEC.

Word :P

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 11, 2009, 10:20:22 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 11, 2009, 08:30:07 PM
Unless voters were sleeping -->Jeff Perkins OF KSC should be on the first team All NE as well as Andrew Fatse - 2B from WNEC.

Word :P


I hope those "voters" are NOT the same guys whom made the field of 54 selections and, specifically the New Eng Bracket?   Wnec gets to travel to a 6 team bracket?----and also avoids running into 3 of the top 5-6 teams in the U.S.........Since all 3 are stuck playing each other in Mansfield, Ct.??   Doesn't simple math----tell us if you have "8 regionals", and if there are 8 # one seeds....... you may wanna think about using many/most of the top 8 teams in the last national rankings to be your # 1 seeds in each bracket??   NOOOOOOO-, Let's plunk 3 of top 5-6 in the same bracket and seed them 1,2,3.      Thanks to the selection committee for eliminating 2, of the top 5 or 6 teams in the U.S. for us all-------before they even play one game in regionals???   WOW.......     Sorry guys----Am I missing something here, or is there some obvious injustice being done?   

   
Kinda like lining up ALL of your ships on C 5-15, d 5-15, E5-15 and F5-15 in the game, Battleship, when we were kids !!!   Even as kids, we knew that was wrong !!!   Why do they bother taking 8 hours or so, doing the selections/brackets, etc----just to then create a KLUNKER, like New England's bracket???     No offense to committee, but------Duhhhhhhhh ?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 12, 2009, 01:08:07 AM
moc323
ditto your comments about the top 3 teams ranked #1 in the country for 7-8 weeks during the season. Wnec definetely wins out at moving out and playing in a 6 team regional. Go Golden Bears.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 12, 2009, 08:59:32 AM
Yea, I thought Trinity would be shipped out, them being the defending champs and all. Kinda knew the committee would not send TEE or TEEIW out thus setting up a potential 2 headed LEC monster out in Hooterville Wish-CON-sin. ::)


WNEC only lucks out IF they advance, otherwise, does it amtter if you lose to a NE or a NY team???

Word :(
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: moc323 on May 12, 2009, 09:12:13 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 12, 2009, 08:59:32 AM
Yea, I thought Trinity would be shipped out, them being the defending champs and all. Kinda knew the committee would not send TEE or TEEIW out thus setting up a potential 2 headed LEC monster out in Hooterville Wish-CON-sin. ::)


WNEC only lucks out IF they advance, otherwise, does it amtter if you lose to a NE or a NY team???

Word :(

The good news for (us?) New England fans is---WE get to see the top 3 (or 3 of the top 5 at least?) teams in the U.S. go at it , all on the same field----which, I'm happy to say is only 1 hour away from me....Since I haven't seen ECSU, nor their team ever play-----D3 newboy here will accept the N.ENG bracket as a real treat for me this week.   Not so sure the 3 teams feel like they were treated accordingly---but--all that stuff goes out the window, once the first pitch is thrown!   These are ALL GOOD TEAMS in the tourney---so--ya gots ta beat whomever crosses your path, to move on....      I, FOR ONE--WILL BE ROOTING FOR A DARKHORSE---At least on Wednes/Thurs-------HOPEFULLY A LITTLE LONGER?     Gentlemen--whomever you pull for---good luck to them also....    I have my Babson hat on.......    tough 1st round draw!     
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 14, 2009, 11:59:20 PM
The Williams site say that Mathews was 3rd team All-NE and the LEC board give Gilblair congrats for being recognized...where can you find the link to see the full team?  The NEIBA site is not up to date at last check.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on June 10, 2009, 06:03:47 PM
The Red Sox picked up Bayer at the end of the 30th round.  Any bets on how soon we'll see him in Fenway?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on June 11, 2009, 05:17:31 PM
My bet is this summer!!

...the Lowell Spinners usually play a game there each summer. 

Hopefully that isn't the only time. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on June 14, 2009, 07:37:45 PM
35th Annual NEIBA New England College Baseball All Star Game write-up, including Box score and rosters:

http://www.gorhody.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/060509aaa.html
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: slick on June 16, 2009, 10:22:38 AM
Trinity's Tim Kiely promoted to Arkansas (AA), first outing after traveling all night. Throws a complete game with 13 K's, Brian Rembiz from Clinton Ct is also there and doing well as a set up man.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: EasternCtFan on June 16, 2009, 10:32:41 PM
According to... http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=558&stn=true&sid=t558

The lowell spinners will have jerimiah bayer, sean killeen, and thomas di benedetto all playing for them this summer along with player of the year drew hedman from pomona-pitzer college (ca).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on June 17, 2009, 09:59:28 AM
Quote from: EasternCtFan on June 16, 2009, 10:32:41 PM
According to... http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=558&stn=true&sid=t558

The lowell spinners will have jerimiah bayer, sean killeen, and thomas di benedetto all playing for them this summer along with player of the year drew hedman from pomona-pitzer college (ca).

Wow!  Good for the Red Sox, and good luck to those d3 stars!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on July 21, 2009, 09:14:05 PM
Hello all.......I hear Burleson left the Reds after two days anyone know why? 

D'Alfonso is playing on an Independent team now.  http://www.frontierleague.com/teamstats/traversecity.php

The D3 guys for the Spinners are doing so so, hope they can get it going in the stretch run. Hedman, Killeen, Bayer, Di Benedetto.  http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=558&stn=true&sid=t558

Musson doing a nice job pitching up there in Jim Dixon land.  http://www.matsuminers.org/stats.htm

Conway helping the Warchester Tornados in the CanAM league.  http://www.canamleague.com/

Shawn is still working out, should be getting on the mound within the next week.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on July 21, 2009, 10:02:20 PM
Wesleyan's Drew Dominguez is also playing for the Spinners.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=&sid=t558&t=p_pbp&pid=573289
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on July 22, 2009, 09:08:14 PM
You going to let us know were shawn is going to be playing??
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on July 23, 2009, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: Jcon8958 on July 22, 2009, 09:08:14 PM
You going to let us know were shawn is going to be playing??

For a city team until we can get a try out somewhere hopefully.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on August 07, 2009, 01:33:13 PM
Mr. Gilblair I heard that shawn was recently at a tryout for the red sox as was Anthony Dlfonso (Who has since signed with the Traverse City team of the frontier league) any truth to that?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on August 08, 2009, 09:12:10 PM
Quote from: Jcon8958 on August 07, 2009, 01:33:13 PM
Mr. Gilblair I heard that shawn was recently at a tryout for the red sox as was Anthony Dlfonso (Who has since signed with the Traverse City team of the frontier league) any truth to that?

You have a good sources Jcon.  It really didn't go to well.  He hadn't pitched for six weeks and it was pouring rain at the tryout.  He really wasn't ready but he went anyway be a life long Sox fan.  They said they wanted another look at him but it hasn't happened and that was almost a month ago.  I think its kind of late in the season to be signing on now, I dont know how it works as far a fall or winter ball for mibl.  He did get a offer for a independent team but passed on that.  I thought you were going to ask Nick about getting him a look with Gedman?  Nick is doing good this summer and thats nice to see.  Anthony was going to get another tryout too but decided to sign with Traverse City instead.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: iamhuge on August 09, 2009, 09:33:25 AM
Is this huge?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1cmXHYtEzQ
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on August 09, 2009, 07:00:49 PM
If you dont mind me asking who did he turn down on the independent front those are all very good leagues. As far as nick talking to Gedman... Gedman has told his team that he is sticking with who he has for the late season run and the playoffs (if they get that far)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on August 09, 2009, 08:24:35 PM

Tip Fairchild Update - He recently res-signed with the Astros after a solid stint in the Indie league.

Good Luck Tip
http://www.nj.com/reporter/index.ssf/2009/07/patriots_pitcher_tip_fairchild.html

Hope ya'll are enjoying this lovely summer.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on August 10, 2009, 06:11:51 PM
Former ECONN pitcher James Kuckla (That may be how u spell it) Has signed with the Quebec Captials of the Can Am League.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on August 11, 2009, 04:49:19 PM
Quote from: Jcon8958 on August 09, 2009, 07:00:49 PM
If you dont mind me asking who did he turn down on the independent front those are all very good leagues. As far as nick talking to Gedman... Gedman has told his team that he is sticking with who he has for the late season run and the playoffs (if they get that far)

Honestly I don't know the name of the team.  At the Sox rain out some guy was there that said he gets guys signed and took his phone number, he call a couple days later and said he had a team in Texas for $800 a month, is that what the make on those team? I think the guy was for real but Shawn couldn't have gone anyway he is just about ready to go 100 percent again.  He'll go to at least one try out this month KC next week.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on August 11, 2009, 10:04:17 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on August 11, 2009, 04:49:19 PM
Quote from: Jcon8958 on August 09, 2009, 07:00:49 PM
If you dont mind me asking who did he turn down on the independent front those are all very good leagues. As far as nick talking to Gedman... Gedman has told his team that he is sticking with who he has for the late season run and the playoffs (if they get that far)

Honestly I don't know the name of the team.  At the Sox rain out some guy was there that said he gets guys signed and took his phone number, he call a couple days later and said he had a team in Texas for $800 a month, is that what the make on those team? I think the guy was for real but Shawn couldn't have gone anyway he is just about ready to go 100 percent again.  He'll go to at least one try out this month KC next week.

Hey D,

Hope you and Shawn are having a good summer!!  Good Luck to Shawn on these tryouts.
Will be looking forward to your preseason outlook on ECSU recruits at the appropriate time.

When does fall baseball start? Would like to take in a few games

Thanks

Hope to see you and B, soon,  I am out in Willi often, so let me know if you guys will be around for some Willi brew.  My treat















Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on August 16, 2009, 06:22:06 PM
Alum, that Willi brew would have been good this weekend.  We are all doing fine now that it has stoped raining around here what a wet year.  I'll be watching some of the fall games, not as many as past years but I'll snope around some.  Hope to see ya there.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on August 16, 2009, 09:12:47 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on August 16, 2009, 06:22:06 PM
Alum, that Willi brew would have been good this weekend.  We are all doing fine now that it has stoped raining around here what a wet year.  I'll be watching some of the fall games, not as many as past years but I'll snope around some.  Hope to see ya there.


D,

Does the team publish Fall game schedule?  If not lete know if you have it.

see ya'll in Sept
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on August 21, 2009, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on August 16, 2009, 09:12:47 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on August 16, 2009, 06:22:06 PM
Alum, that Willi brew would have been good this weekend.  We are all doing fine now that it has stoped raining around here what a wet year.  I'll be watching some of the fall games, not as many as past years but I'll snope around some.  Hope to see ya there.


D,

Does the team publish Fall game schedule?  If not lete know if you have it.

see ya'll in Sept

Have not heard of any schedules yet but when I do I'll let you know or B will be posting again by then maybe. 

Shawn helped out at coaches golf tourney today and said it went well.  We went to the KC tryout Tuesday and 300 kids showed up....I kid you not 300.  We didn't stay it was a mess, one scout and an assistant for 300 players.  Better luck next time I guess.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: SCOUT66 on August 21, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
I AM NOT FROM THE AREA BUT I HAVE FOLLOWED THE NEW ENGLAND BLOG AND HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, BURRLESON FROM THE REDS HAS NO PT? S GILBLAIR HAS NOT FOUND A PLACE TO PLAY? CASTILLO'S AGE WAS A HUGE FACTOR I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. CF FOR MAINE IS RAW BUT WHAT WE CALL A METAL BAT HITTER.  2 RIGHT HANDED 1B'S FROM RHODE ISLAND AND ECONN SHOW GREAT POTENTIAL FOR SIZE. THERRIAN 33 FROM MAINE  IS RAW AND NEEDS TO GROW INTO HIS BODY. ITS BEEN A PLEASURE 10' IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Man on August 24, 2009, 09:55:30 PM
Burrleson quit after 1 day... like most in the LEC thought he would - Has walked away from last 2 summer teams and has no desire to work for what he could be....  Gilblair is a player and should be playing some where... the guts and the ability and the desire to play at the next LEVEL!!!!  If you are talking about Mackey or D'alfonso.  they could both hit with broomsticks......  Who are the kids from RI?  no idea?  What about Doyon and Patnode from KSC????

OM
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on August 24, 2009, 11:11:38 PM
I have watched Doyon play for two years now, and he can certainly hit.  There is no debate over bobby swingin it.  His defense has been called into question by some, and to be honest I am not a good enough judge to determine if that would prevent him from getting a shot.  I mean baseball scouts talk about tools, and Bobby can certainly hit, he has speed, his arm is strong enough for a corner outfield, I think/hope that he will get some serious consideration.  Scout 66 has a better idea, Bobby is a big kid so he has some size as well. That being said it is very hard for a positon player at the d3 level.  I hope that more d3 kids find themselves in the minors so i can blow off more work with d3 and milb.com
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on August 29, 2009, 10:23:13 AM
Hello folks,
Doyon needs to improve his defense and prove he can hit with a wooden bat. He did all right in the league he was in with a .302 BA and a .565 SLG. Considering He's from Keene and away from home, that's pretty good. He needs to move up a level next summer and do the same.
Patnode, last year, was sort of in the shadows, yet had a very good year. His batting mechanics are outstanding. Look for him to emerge from the shadows next year. Patnode Hit .416 for the Kene Blue Jays in the CNEBA
Kscer
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on September 12, 2009, 05:17:29 PM
OshDude says the Orioles signed Scott Chiasson (ECSU) and assigned him to Triple-A.
Scott is still working it and making a living.....nice to see....not only an ECSU kid but he comes from Norwich which is just 20 mins from campus.  Lots of good ballplayers from that part of the state.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on September 16, 2009, 05:11:58 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on September 12, 2009, 05:17:29 PM
OshDude says the Orioles signed Scott Chiasson (ECSU) and assigned him to Triple-A.
Scott is still working it and making a living.....nice to see....not only an ECSU kid but he comes from Norwich which is just 20 mins from campus.  Lots of good ballplayers from that part of the state.

Maybe the O's will be smart and give Scott a another shot in MLB this spring!!

Lord knows they need some pitching.  (Second to last in MLB Team ERA @ 5.11, with Nationals last @ 5.12)

Great stats with Quintana Roo (Mex. League) this summer as reliever, (I think he was near top Saves leader if not The leader), and pitched well for the O's in limited use last spring.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: mans007 on September 18, 2009, 02:57:32 AM
D"alfonso  can't hit a breaking ball with a metal bat. What makes you think he can hit he can hit anything with wood? + he can't play a defensive positon. That = a beer league hitter.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on October 09, 2009, 11:29:12 AM
Big news in the NY Region-St. John's Fisher Head Coach Dan Pepicelli was named the pitching coach at Clemson. 

Are there any young coaches in the NE Region primed to make a big move like this?  Any other legends of coaching (Amherst's Thurston) going to be moving on soon?  Halowaty is the first guy that comes to mind...

D'Alfonso was a All-League in the NECBL...he can hit with wood.  It's the lack of a position that hurts him.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on October 10, 2009, 01:01:40 PM
Coach Holowaty, (at ECSU),. will be around for awhile as far as I know.  There is nothing in the radar to say he would be moving or retiring.  I am sure 10-20 years ago Coach H could have moved up to D-II or D-I, (ie UCONN for example), but I believe he loves ESCU and Eastern BB.

Will be interesting to see how Jared Holowaty does out at Whitman
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on December 20, 2009, 08:01:19 PM

2010 Preseason D-III Poll hot off the pressess boys and girls.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL

WORD

Collegiate Baseball Newspaper's

NCAA Div. III Pre-Season Poll (As of Dec. 21)

www.baseballnews.com

Rank    School Name '09 Final Record Point Totals
1. St. Thomas (MN) 41-13 263
2. Wooster (OH) 43-11 259
3. Eastern Conn. St. 39-8 253
4. Chapman (CA) 32-17 249
5. Carthage (WI) 38-9 247
6. Kean (NJ) 39-11 245
7. Salisbury (MD) 38-8 242
8. Shenandoah (VA) 38-10 239
9.Trinity (CT) 33-7 236
10. Pomona-Pitzer (CA) 37-7 233
11. Keystone (PA) 40-6 232
12. Southern Maine 36-9 229
13. Farmingdale St. (NY) 30-17 224
14. Heidelberg (OH) 37-9 222
15. Wisc.-Whitewater  30-19 220
16. Rensselaer Poly. Inst. (NY) 37-13 216
17. SUNY Cortland (NY) 31-14 214
18. George Fox (OR) 36-11 211
19. Marietta (OH) 32-17 207
20. Cal. Lutheran (CA) 32-11 206
21. St. Olaf (MN) 32-14 203
22. Adrian (MI) 33-11 201
23. Ithaca (NY) 29-10 196
24. Wisc.-Stevens Point 31-16 195
25. Pacific Lutheran (WA) 31-9 194
26. Saint Joseph's (ME) 31-13 192
27. Rose-Hulman (IN) 32-14 188
28. Anderson (IN) 22-18 186
29. Franklin (IN) 31-11 182
30. Johns Hopkins (MD) 28-16 179
Other Top Teams: Beloit, WI (28-9), Christopher Newport, VA (26-13-2), College of New Jersey (27-18-1), Texas-Tyler (39-12), Nebraska Wesleyan (28-13), St. Scholastica, MN (36-7), Wheaton, MA (30-12), William Paterson, NJ (24-17), Washington & Jefferson, PA (35-14), Franklin & Marshall, PA (24-14-1).
Source: Collegiate Baseball newspaper





Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on December 20, 2009, 10:46:56 PM
Word,

YOUR THE MAN!!!

Happy Holidays to you and yours, as well as to all on the D3 sports threads!!

New season just around the corner ;D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on December 21, 2009, 09:40:09 AM
All,

Good to see 5 New England teams got votes in the Pre-season D-III Poll.

Pretty much the usual cast of characters; I am surprised by the ranking of St. Joe's @ 26.
Congrats to Coach Will (James Brown) Sanborn - the Hardest Working Man in D-III baseball.

I will say it again and I want all you Grrrllly Men to hear me now & believe me later.

This is the year Keene State College goes to the WS.

Peace ya'll and in the words of Randy Moss  "These shoulders that I have on my body, you could put the earth on it." "Just to let you know, I bounce back."

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on December 21, 2009, 10:27:36 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on December 21, 2009, 09:40:09 AM
Peace ya'll and in the words of Randy Moss  "These shoulders that I have on my body, you could put the earth on it." "Just to let you know, I bounce back."
Moss must have been speaking figuratively. I know children with bigger shoulders than him. Go Pack go (yes, Moss still tilts me from his MN days).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on December 21, 2009, 11:55:49 AM
Quote from: OshDude on December 21, 2009, 10:27:36 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on December 21, 2009, 09:40:09 AM
Peace ya'll and in the words of Randy Moss  "These shoulders that I have on my body, you could put the earth on it." "Just to let you know, I bounce back."
Moss must have been speaking figuratively. I know children with bigger shoulders than him. Go Pack go (yes, Moss still tilts me from his MN days).

Yep, by the way OshDude, way to D-Up that last minute desparation pass play by Toothless-Berg and the Steagles yesterday. At least Favre crashed and burned yesterday and it wasn't a total loss for TitleTown.

Go Fuzzy Thurston, Jerry (I jumped the snap) Kramer, Paul (Me and Alex will take the points for a G apiece) Horning, and Forrest (Eyes still twitching?) Gregg.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on December 23, 2009, 08:30:17 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on December 21, 2009, 11:55:49 AM
Quote from: OshDude on December 21, 2009, 10:27:36 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on December 21, 2009, 09:40:09 AM
Peace ya'll and in the words of Randy Moss  "These shoulders that I have on my body, you could put the earth on it." "Just to let you know, I bounce back."
Moss must have been speaking figuratively. I know children with bigger shoulders than him. Go Pack go (yes, Moss still tilts me from his MN days).

Yep, by the way OshDude, way to D-Up that last minute desparation pass play by Toothless-Berg and the Steagles yesterday. At least Favre crashed and burned yesterday and it wasn't a total loss for TitleTown.

Go Fuzzy Thurston, Jerry (I jumped the snap) Kramer, Paul (Me and Alex will take the points for a G apiece) Horning, and Forrest (Eyes still twitching?) Gregg.

Word
That dude got lit up all day. Pretty frustrating year for Packers fans. Seeing 4 in purple, and atop the standings, doesn't help. But I'm still a Favre guy. Hard to believe there are so many antiFavres in these parts. Dude only turned the franchise around. No big deal.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on December 23, 2009, 12:49:10 PM
Quote from: OshDude on December 23, 2009, 08:30:17 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on December 21, 2009, 11:55:49 AM
Quote from: OshDude on December 21, 2009, 10:27:36 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on December 21, 2009, 09:40:09 AM
Peace ya'll and in the words of Randy Moss  "These shoulders that I have on my body, you could put the earth on it." "Just to let you know, I bounce back."
Moss must have been speaking figuratively. I know children with bigger shoulders than him. Go Pack go (yes, Moss still tilts me from his MN days).

Yep, by the way OshDude, way to D-Up that last minute desparation pass play by Toothless-Berg and the Steagles yesterday. At least Favre crashed and burned yesterday and it wasn't a total loss for TitleTown.

Go Fuzzy Thurston, Jerry (I jumped the snap) Kramer, Paul (Me and Alex will take the points for a G apiece) Horning, and Forrest (Eyes still twitching?) Gregg.

Word
That dude got lit up all day. Pretty frustrating year for Packers fans. Seeing 4 in purple, and atop the standings, doesn't help. But I'm still a Favre guy. Hard to believe there are so many antiFavres in these parts. Dude only turned the franchise around. No big deal.

Yea, but the drama he creates, and it has been that way for years.....I'm thinking of retiring, no wait, now I'm in, nope out, nope back in. He should be renamed Brett Hokey-Pokey.

Ya put your retirement papers in,
Ya pull your retirement papers out,
Ya put your retirement papers in,
And ya shake the media about,
Ya do the Hokey Favre,
And Ya turn your franchise around,
Let's what we're talking about

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: DougiesGoinDeep on February 01, 2010, 09:27:11 AM
From Baseball America today:

DIVISION III
TOP 5—HOW THEY'LL FINISH
Rank   Team   2009 Record
1.   St. Thomas (Minn.)   41-13
2.   Trinity (Conn.)   26-5
3.   Kean (N.J.)   39-11
4.   Wooster, Ohio   43-11
5.   Eastern Conn. State   39-8
PLAYERS TO WATCH
C—Patrick Reardon, Sr., Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, N.Y. (.409-10-54). 1B—Mike Celenza, Sr., Salisbury, Md. (.469-12-57). 2B—Mike Moceri, Sr., Kean, N.J. (.433-2-59). 3B—Eric Groff, Sr., Keystone, Pa. (.445-13-58, 16 3B). SS—Javier Arrieta, Sr., Sul Ross, Texas, State (.461-17-51, 15 SB). OF—Bo Bell, Sr., Mississippi College (.425-13-73); Bobby Doyon, Jr., Keene, N.H., State (.435-13-72, 12 SB); James Wood, Sr., Trinity, Conn. (.361-4-38, 13 2Bs). DH—Kent Graham, Sr., Trinity, Conn. (.409-10-54). UT—Greg Van Sickler, Jr., Shenandoah, Va. (.411-7-66, 10 SB; 9-2, 2.69).
SP—Andrew Mondo, Sr., Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (11-3, 3.03); Matt Schuld, Sr., St. Thomas, Minn. (12-1, 3.25); Noah Solomon, Jr., Trinity, Texas (5-1, 1.94). RP—Steve Matre, Sr., Mount St. Joseph, Ohio (0-1, 0.41, 13 SV, 22 IP/32 SO).
Player of the Year: Greg Van Sickler, rhp/1b, Shenandoah (Va.).
Championship: Eight regionals, campus sites, May 19-23. Eight regional champions advance to CWS, May 28-June 1 at Appleton, Wis. (Fox Cities Stadium).

TOP PROSPECTS, 2010 DRAFT
1. Greg Van Sickler, rhp/1b, Shenandoah (Va.)
2. James Wood, of, Trinity (Conn.)
3. Ryan Demmin, lhp, Wisconsin-Oshkosh

QUICK HITS
• St. Thomas (Minn.), the defending national champion, will have a new coach in 2010, as nine-year assistant coach Chris Olean was named interim coach in January. Dennis Denning, 65, retired in December after having led the Tommies to national titles in 2001 and 2009. St. Thomas either won the regular-season or tournament title in the Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (MIAC) in each of the last 14 years. Denning's clubs went 522-157 (.769) at St. Thomas over 15 seasons. This year's Tommies team returns 20 players from last year's 41-13 club, led by 6-foot-3 senior RHP Matt Schuld, who set a school record with 12 victories last season; closer Brandon Stone, and senior OF Matt Olson (.380-2-25, 10 SB), the Most Outstanding Player of last year's Division III CWS.

• Independent power Chapman (Calif.) returns a pair of key players in two-sport athlete 2B Tyler Hadzinsky and senior OF Ryan Prechtl. Hadzinky was named the athlete of the year for 2008-2009 by D-III independents, doubling baseball player (he batted .376 with a team-best 18 doubles) and soccer goalkeeper (he's posted 0.62 and 0.68 goals against averages the last two seasons). Prechtl hit .315 with seven home runs and is a four-year starter in center field.

• Anderson (Ind.) coach Don Brandon has announced that the 2010 season will be his last. Brandon ranks second among D-III active coaches in wins and is fifth on the all-time list with a 1,075-562 record, after the 2009 club went 22-18.

• Mount St. Joseph senior closer Steve Matre is closing in on some records, as he has racked up 32 saves in three seasons while going 3-7, 1.29 overall. Matre, who has a 110-17 strikeout-walk ratio over 91 innings in three seasons, led the nation in saves a year ago. The Division I career saves record of 53, set by Blair Erickson (UC Irvine), is probably safe. But the D-III record is just 35, set in 2002 by Mike Spavento of Wheaton (Mass.).


Congrats to all of the NE players who made this list, I'm a little surprised Castillo got left off this list, considering Baseball America tends to favor players who play in major wood bat summer leagues. Thoughts?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on February 01, 2010, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: DougiesGoinDeep on February 01, 2010, 09:27:11 AM



Congrats to all of the NE players who made this list, I'm a little surprised Castillo got left off this list, considering Baseball America tends to favor players who play in major wood bat summer leagues. Thoughts?


Isn't Castillo like in his mid-30's...:)     Seems like he has been around forever...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on February 05, 2010, 11:42:25 AM
Bored at work so...My Preseason All-NE picks.

C - Barrett - Suffolk
1B - Graham - Trin
2B - Fatse - WNEC
3B - Castillo - ECSU
SS - Bass - ECSU
OF - Doyon - KSC
OF - Wood - Trin
OF - Bruinsma - Curry
P - Moran - St. Joes (ME)
P - Musson - ECSU
P - Aizenstadt - Babson

Pretty good competition for all spots...except for SS.  Surprising small number of returning top notch SS's.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on February 05, 2010, 01:40:16 PM
RickVaughn...
Pretty good assessment of all new england. It's nice to see three ECSU players in the mix without even mentioning Parke, Perry, and Fontaine. I know you can't have an entire all new england team of Eastern players  - but it just shows how talented this group of returning players for Eastern is and it is no wonder they are a #4 pre-season rank nationally.

Nice job Rick
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 05, 2010, 09:01:46 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on February 05, 2010, 01:40:16 PM
RickVaughn...
Pretty good assessment of all new england. It's nice to see three ECSU players in the mix without even mentioning Parke, Perry, and Fontaine. I know you can't have an entire all new england team of Eastern players  - but it just shows how talented this group of returning players for Eastern is and it is no wonder they are a #4 pre-season rank nationally.

Nice job Rick

Schult needs to be in that conversation also.  If he takes the steps he took last year he is going to have a really good run.  The heck with it it is just easier to make it all ECSU. you might have a better percentage correct when it's all said and done with this team.  Abundance of bats with this team. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on February 07, 2010, 12:01:12 AM
DGilblair....
You're right about Schult.... I don't know how he slipped by me. He had a number of key wins last year.
I hope Tingley is fully recovered and if they move Wojick into a starting weekday slot it could be quite a staff.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 08, 2010, 05:40:43 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on February 07, 2010, 12:01:12 AM
DGilblair....
You're right about Schult.... I don't know how he slipped by me. He had a number of key wins last year.
I hope Tingley is fully recovered and if they move Wojick into a starting weekday slot it could be quite a staff.


I thought he really progressed through the season and from where he was in 08.  I expect him to have a nice year on the mound and at the plate.  I  hope Tings has a good year.  You have a strong team there this year.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 09, 2010, 06:25:25 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on February 05, 2010, 11:42:25 AM
Bored at work so...My Preseason All-NE picks.

C - Barrett - Suffolk
1B - Graham - Trin
2B - Fatse - WNEC
3B - Castillo - ECSU
SS - Bass - ECSU
OF - Doyon - KSC
OF - Wood - Trin
OF - Bruinsma - Curry
P - Moran - St. Joes (ME)
P - Musson - ECSU
P - Aizenstadt - Babson

Pretty good competition for all spots...except for SS.  Surprising small number of returning top notch SS's.

I think Moran with get it at the Utility spot. Need another pitcher now?  Armstrong,  Raymond, LeBrun, Pelkey?  I'm taking .....you guessed it Fontaine.


Levesque for RIC may give Moran a run for utility spot if he improves on the mound.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 11, 2010, 02:07:57 PM
Hey guys,

I am thinking about starting a blog this spring that is all about Division 3 baseball in New England.  The d3baseball website is a great resource for everything D3 baseball but I want to give fans in New England something more.

My goal is to have analysis and coverage from the first pitch in March through the last pitch of the New England Regional tournament.  I am going to try and get to as many games as I can this spring without having a car.  Luckily, almost every conference has a team in the Boston area.

My blog will have weekly analysis of the region, stories from games I cover, interactive live blogs during the game and also video interviews and highlights from the games I cover.

This idea came to me one night and I thought it would be fun and informative for all of us. 

I would love to hear what you guys think.  Please respond with any thoughts, positive or negative.

Thanks,

Tristan Hobbes
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 11, 2010, 02:38:29 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on February 11, 2010, 02:07:57 PM
Hey guys,

I am thinking about starting a blog this spring that is all about Division 3 baseball in New England.  The d3baseball website is a great resource for everything D3 baseball but I want to give fans in New England something more.

My goal is to have analysis and coverage from the first pitch in March through the last pitch of the New England Regional tournament.  I am going to try and get to as many games as I can this spring without having a car.  Luckily, almost every conference has a team in the Boston area.

My blog will have weekly analysis of the region, stories from games I cover, interactive live blogs during the game and also video interviews and highlights from the games I cover.

This idea came to me one night and I thought it would be fun and informative for all of us. 

I would love to hear what you guys think.  Please respond with any thoughts, positive or negative.

Thanks,

Tristan Hobbes

Without a car??  Hobbesy, your a saint!!!

Outstanding idea ;D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on February 11, 2010, 03:53:15 PM
Hobbesy,

Great idea.... maybe your mom can be the roving photographer and you can hook up a ride with her. What is she going to do now that you are done playing? She has plenty of time on her hands now and she is used to traveling all over the place anyway.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: dgilblair on February 11, 2010, 06:37:26 PM
How nice it would be to be 20 something again......oh the energy and gumption.  You go Hobbes.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on February 12, 2010, 11:42:17 AM
Quote from: ECSUalum on February 11, 2010, 02:38:29 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on February 11, 2010, 02:07:57 PM
Hey guys,

I am thinking about starting a blog this spring that is all about Division 3 baseball in New England.  The d3baseball website is a great resource for everything D3 baseball but I want to give fans in New England something more.

My goal is to have analysis and coverage from the first pitch in March through the last pitch of the New England Regional tournament.  I am going to try and get to as many games as I can this spring without having a car.  Luckily, almost every conference has a team in the Boston area.

My blog will have weekly analysis of the region, stories from games I cover, interactive live blogs during the game and also video interviews and highlights from the games I cover.

This idea came to me one night and I thought it would be fun and informative for all of us. 

I would love to hear what you guys think.  Please respond with any thoughts, positive or negative.

Thanks,

Tristan Hobbes

Without a car??  Hobbesy, your a saint!!!

Outstanding idea ;D
TH,
If you want to co-opt any ideas, here's my Midwest blog (http://midwestbaseball.wordpress.com/). I don't do gamers or profiles. I just keep tabs on stats, "in the news" stuff, and other numbers that pertain to bids (in-region records, OWP's, etc.). I do most of the "I saw ..." stuff on these boards, especially for my crazy-long ones during the CWS and regionals.

There's a poster on the Mideast boards who started a nice blog (covers Ohio baseball, including a lot of D-III) that has interviews, previews and the things it seems you want to do. Would be awesome to have another region represented. I'm – I assume we all are – looking forward to seeing what you come up with. Good luck!

And I didn't know there was another person who didn't drive to cover games. I'm one of those weirdos who never got a license.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 12, 2010, 01:06:32 PM
Osh,

Great blog!!

OshDude and Hobbesy, what a great 1/2 punch!!

Good Luck guys, will be looking forward to your output going forward

Title: Where is Connor Fahey?
Post by: coachzilly on February 16, 2010, 07:25:04 AM
Is the 2009 WPI ACE playing anywhere?
Title: Re: Where is Connor Fahey?
Post by: ecfaninri on February 16, 2010, 05:25:50 PM
coach zilly... not sure where fahey ended up but what do you hear about RIC and their new coaching staff?
Title: Re: Where is Connor Fahey?
Post by: coachzilly on February 17, 2010, 08:41:21 AM
Not too much, pretty quiet on the hill.  All three coaches have been there for a while so not many changes. 

The situation with Coach Grenier, was done in a pretty "class-less" fashion.  Not a surprize with the Adminisration there! By the way Coach Grenier is at Wheaton as a hitting coach in addition to his duties on the Cape with Chatham. 

Looking forward to a trip to Willy to catch the big fella on the bump.  I'll be in touch!
Title: Re: Where is Connor Fahey?
Post by: ecfaninri on February 17, 2010, 07:46:13 PM
Coach Zilly... Good for Grenier. I always thought he did a good job at both RIC and CCRI.  By the way....I was just watching PC and West Virginia on the Big East network and they showed a flashback of "the game" at the Ryan Center and the big fella coming up a little bit short - again. What memories. He says he can wait to get started.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 18, 2010, 11:24:16 AM
OshDude,

Your website is amazing.  I dont know if I can keep up with all of those kind of stats haha.  But I want to give fans a chance to follow games on the weekend and also give coaches and players a chance to receive some recognition (interviews).

I am hoping that my blog will help stimulate discussion on these boards as well.

Title: Re: Where is Connor Fahey?
Post by: coachzilly on February 18, 2010, 06:49:30 PM
"The Game"..."The Shot"...still never watched the replay.  Once was enough! 
West vs Hendy friday night at West, We Have a Shot once again!

Check out the RIC spring trip, Friday pm flight, double headers Sat, Sun, Mon, Wed, return on Thursday. 
Talk about LOW rent.  As you can tell I'm not a big fan any longer!
Title: Re: Where is Connor Fahey?
Post by: ecfaninri on February 18, 2010, 07:57:11 PM
Coachzilly... That is a killer of a trip for RIC but it will be a good indicator how good they can be with doubleheaders against Suffolk, Westfield and Fitchburg.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: willows478 on February 18, 2010, 08:04:34 PM
Hey guys,
There was a lot of change in power in the NEWMACs last year with Wheaton not making the tournament and both WPI and Babson making a splash in regionals (especially Babson's win over ECSU, what a game!). How do you think the NEWMAC teams will fair in NE this year?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on February 19, 2010, 09:58:16 AM
Babson is tough with young talent and the NEWMAC's best pitcher, but Wheaton should be the top dog going in every year with the way they reload.  WPI will be down some losing Fahey, but the Wheaton-Babson battle should be tight.
Title: Re: Where is Connor Fahey?
Post by: coachzilly on February 19, 2010, 10:55:16 AM
They feel they have pitching depth but lost 2 starters to grades, a 2b and an OF...ouch!  Levesque is now slated to play 3rd full time.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 19, 2010, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: willows478 on February 18, 2010, 08:04:34 PM
Hey guys,
There was a lot of change in power in the NEWMACs last year with Wheaton not making the tournament and both WPI and Babson making a splash in regionals (especially Babson's win over ECSU, what a game!). How do you think the NEWMAC teams will fair in NE this year?

Babson and Wheaton always seem to be strong in NEWMAC, however I see WPI and MIT strengthening and  attracting excellent talent.  2010 will be interesting to see if WPI can reload after a fantastic 2009 season, ( Fahey was unreal!!) and if MIT can continue to improve.

I wonder if Babson's Aizenstadt goes Pro before he graduates???  He should have another great season this year!!

PS, If he puts on another 10-20 lbs on that 6'5" frame, he could be real interesting for MLB scouts!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: 16Anglers on February 20, 2010, 10:31:00 AM
What's the feeling about Clark this year?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: changeupsd3 on February 23, 2010, 08:23:38 AM
Hey guys, I followed a little d3 baseball in New England the past couple of years and it seems in the NEWMAC that the power tide may be shifting however Wheaton has to be considered the favorite year in and year out.  Just the overall dominance they have displayed since they've been a team has been unthinkable.  What is it now, something like 9 out of the 11 NEWMAC championships have gone there (I'll dig it out after).  I will say Babson will have another deep run with returning pitching but losing those two key guys at 2b and the OF will hurt.  Wheaton also has their own problems but it will not be on the offense side, they lost one position player in All-New England selection Nick Pecora, but return every position player from a team who won 30 games last year. Their struggles will come from pitching from both the starting and bullpen aspects.  They lost 3 starting pitchers most notable All-American Adam Gingras (playing anywhere??).  They also lost their All-New England closer in Josh Simmons as well.  WPI may be in the mix depending how they recruited in their off-season however you can't replace All-American Conor Fahey, he was their ace starter and closer for that matter, without that kid WPI doesn't win much of anything, but we will see.  As for Clark I just don't see them reloading and recruiting enough talent on both the pitching and hitting side of the game to keep up with Wheaton and Babson, unless they bring in a couple of big bats and one go to ace I think this comes down to Wheaton and Babson and whether or not some of the Wheaton young kids can step up.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 01, 2010, 03:21:51 PM
Guys,

Finally launched my blog that is everything New England D3 Baseball!

Check it out!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 06, 2010, 09:20:37 PM
Scoreboard posted for the 6th...

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/march-6th-scoreboard/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/march-6th-scoreboard/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 08, 2010, 06:15:19 PM
March 8th scoreboard up...

Two big wins for WPI.

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/march-8th-scoreboard/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/march-8th-scoreboard/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 10, 2010, 04:31:20 PM
Hobbsey good point about WPI wins.  St Joes is always a regional team and a good team in that.  Cant wait for the next two weeks as the NE picture starts to show itself.  I know its way early anyone want to throw out a NE ranking based on the first week or so of the year.  I think WPI gains consideration based on those wins.  They are currently 5-0 and looking to have a good strong spring trip.  Eastern and USM are 2-0 on the year.  WNEC is 3-0 on the year just to throw out some teams that have got some games under thier belt already
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: changeupsd3 on March 11, 2010, 09:06:36 AM
Feels good to have baseball back in swing.  WPI looking sharp without Fahey throwing 8357398473 innings, Eastern goes down once but puts up big runs in the loss, WNEC looking good.  Wheaton going to start their spring trip soon, curious if they can hold up to their very early national ranking of 20th with losing so much pitching. Going to be funn :)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBearsAlum15 on March 11, 2010, 08:13:27 PM
Should be an exciting next couple weeks or so in Arizona for teams like WNEC, ECSU, Wheaton, Keene St, Southern Maine, Curry, etc. My guess is that the offenses will be on fire in that warm weather down there. A few games to look forward to between quality NE teams are WNEC-Keene St, WNEC-Southern Maine, Wheaton-Suffolk, Wheaton-Curry, Eastern-Williams, just to name a few. We will get a chance to see how the balance of power could pan out early on.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 11, 2010, 10:55:55 PM
GBearsAlum-

Going to be a great couple of weeks!  Lots of great games to look forward to.  I always liked playing the west coast schools during the spring trip but Arizona and Florida have really become a place where the metal of the mid-atlantic and new england square off.

In other news,

WPI has not missed a beat.  They move to 6-0 with 7-6 win over nationally ranked RPI in Flo-Rida.  Big win for the Engineers, WPI that is.

Also, Wentworth won their fourth straight with an 11-10 victory.

Check my site for a full scoreboard and some analysis later.

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 12, 2010, 04:54:55 PM
Weekend preview up

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/weekend-preview/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/weekend-preview/)

Your thoughts? What games intrigue you?  Let me know?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 14, 2010, 12:40:33 AM
Scoreboard from March 13th posted...

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/march-13th-scoreboard/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/march-13th-scoreboard/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 15, 2010, 12:25:15 AM
Big day in New England as Keene St. gets coach Ken Howe win #400 and NESCAC schools Bowdoin and Amherst run over the TCCC.

Scoreboard here...

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/march-14th-scoreboard-howe-gets-400-and-marquit-hits-for-cycle/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/march-14th-scoreboard-howe-gets-400-and-marquit-hits-for-cycle/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 15, 2010, 10:42:32 PM
More runs for Keene St.  They really love this warm weather!  They could score 20 a game if they didnt have to come back north! 

Big win for Wheaton as well knocking off Cortland St. 

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 16, 2010, 10:01:19 PM
Worcester St. and Husson split a doubleheader today.  We could see these two teams meet again the regionals. 

Cortland St also rebounded with a win over Wheaton today.

Full Scoreboard

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)

Also, saw a pic of Husson's field...looks really nice from the aerial.  Anyone been there???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBearsAlum15 on March 16, 2010, 10:45:00 PM
WNEC gets back on track today with a convincing 10-0 win over SUNY Brockport. Freshmen Kevin Jefferis got the start and apparently shut the door on them. The bats continue to roll for WNEC, but they need to develop that bullpen in order to be an elite team. Looking forward to the Southern Maine-WNEC game on Thursday. Any thoughts on that game? Can WNEC's pitching slow down the Southern Maine bats enough to win?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on March 17, 2010, 04:51:23 AM
Quote from: GBearsAlum15 on March 16, 2010, 10:45:00 PM
WNEC gets back on track today with a convincing 10-0 win over SUNY Brockport. Freshmen Kevin Jefferis got the start and apparently shut the door on them. The bats continue to roll for WNEC, but they need to develop that bullpen in order to be an elite team. Looking forward to the Southern Maine-WNEC game on Thursday. Any thoughts on that game? Can WNEC's pitching slow down the Southern Maine bats enough to win?


USM lost a LOT of bats from last year, while I have only seen two games I don't see USM coming close to having an offense like last year...So to answer your question: yes they very well could shut them down...USM's pitching and defense will determine how far they go this year...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 17, 2010, 12:41:03 PM
Hockeyfan i never thought i would see the day that USM's pitching and defense would carry them hahahah.  What happened it seems like Keene who was all pitching and defense and no offense 3 years ago has now become USM like with thier bats carrying them a lot of days, and USM the other way around.  Im sure that USM will not have a problem scoring runs as they never seem to do.  Did i see Henry on a box score?  Hes still there?  It seems like Henry and Castillo from Eastern have been in the league for like 30 years
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on March 17, 2010, 07:27:34 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 16, 2010, 10:01:19 PM
Worcester St. and Husson split a doubleheader today.  We could see these two teams meet again the regionals. 

Cortland St also rebounded with a win over Wheaton today.

Full Scoreboard

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)

Also, saw a pic of Husson's field...looks really nice from the aerial.  Anyone been there???


Nice turf field, almost at the end of civilization but a nice facility
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 18, 2010, 12:02:55 AM
Stump- 

Thanks alot.  I cant imagine trying to get there but it seems like a nice home field that no one else knows about.

Also,

Good day for pitchers as Keene St., UMass Boston and Fitchburg St. all received great starting pitching.

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/03/17/march-17th-scoreboard-happy-st-patricks-day/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/03/17/march-17th-scoreboard-happy-st-patricks-day/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on March 18, 2010, 02:35:08 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on March 17, 2010, 12:41:03 PM
Hockeyfan i never thought i would see the day that USM's pitching and defense would carry them hahahah.  What happened it seems like Keene who was all pitching and defense and no offense 3 years ago has now become USM like with thier bats carrying them a lot of days, and USM the other way around.  Im sure that USM will not have a problem scoring runs as they never seem to do.  Did i see Henry on a box score?  Hes still there?  It seems like Henry and Castillo from Eastern have been in the league for like 30 years


Yup, Henry is still at USM: USM has a fast team so they may score runs with hit and runs and steals but for the most part from what I have seen and heard is USM is a team with gap power this year: nothing like the team that had last year!!!  KSC has a scary offense: haven't seen them this year but I saw them plenty last year and ECSU has can swing the bat along with UMB...Should be a fun and different year watching USM...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 18, 2010, 01:30:13 PM
Already some scores in...

Curry holds off a ninth inning rally from Wheaton to win 7-6.

UMass Boston took game one 5-0 over MCLA and leads game two, 12-5 in the bottom of the sixth.


League Records through games of yesterday!
http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBearsAlum15 on March 18, 2010, 08:52:48 PM
Southern Maine takes down WNEC 11-3. I am hearing that it was a close game early, but once USM got to WNEC's bullpen the game opened up. The USM bats will always be a threat, no matter if it is supposedly a "down" year for the bats. Also, WNEC needs to figure out that bullpen in order to get to where they want to be. So far WNEC has had two big tests against in-region teams (Keene St and USM) and have lost both.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 18, 2010, 11:34:18 PM
Those are two tough losses because I believe they count towards your end of the year stats as in-region.  It stinks because the team usually gets better as the season goes on.  WNEC will have a chance against Keene St. again but not USM. 

MASCAC had some good wins today as did UMass Boston.

I am going to try and make my way over to MIT tomorrow for their game against Wentworth.  Video of the game and maybe some interviews.  I have Hockey East semi-finals tomorrow night so I cant stay long.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 20, 2010, 12:58:25 AM
Sorry for not having the scoreboard up yet but its been a long night with the Hockey East playoffs.  I have posted a video from Wentworth-MIT game though.

Stay tuned for more...

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 20, 2010, 09:57:09 PM
NEWMAC and TCCC start their conference play today...

WPI off to a 10-0 start while Wesleyan has dropped five straight after a 9-0 start.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 21, 2010, 10:13:24 PM
Lots of splits today...Curry off to a 4-0 league start while WNEC already drops a game back with a split against Salve Regina.

Williams and Southern Maine sweep as well as Husson and Bridgewater St.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 22, 2010, 09:02:01 PM
Conferences release players, pitchers and rookies of the week...

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Check back later for a full scoreboard from today.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 23, 2010, 09:17:29 AM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 21, 2010, 10:13:24 PM
Lots of splits today...Curry off to a 4-0 league start while WNEC already drops a game back with a split against Salve Regina.

Williams and Southern Maine sweep as well as Husson and Bridgewater St.

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Hobbesy,

Thanks for the comment regarding TCCC, nice to see them get a mention. I have watched LEC baseball for 10-12 years, and had the chance to see numerous TCCC games over the last year. 2-3 teams in TCCC could compete in the LEC. Curry & WNEC among them.
Interestingly, WNEC and Curry usually fight it out for the Tourney Championship. Curry has a history of running the table during the regular season, WNEC for some reason struggles against some of the lesser talented teams in TCCC during the regular season. Not sure why.

Last year's Championship run by WNEC had to go through Curry on their home field, not a easy job by any means. Curry's field is one of the more bizzare and difficult parks to watch a game from.

Should be interesting to see whether WNEC has the talent and ability to repeat this year. They lost a lot of talent to graduation and transfers from last year's squad. Coach LaBranche does an amazing job at WNEC in keeping this program at or near the top of the heap in their conference and as a strong program in New England.

Good Luck to WNEC. And thanks again Hobbesy for your observations and blogs, I really enjoy them.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 23, 2010, 12:59:16 PM
Word-

Your welcome.  I am planning a trip this Saturday to watch the Curry-WNEC doubleheader at Curry.  It should be a great two games. 

So many teams in the TCCC makes it an interesting conference.  Lots of league games can make it easier to take a loss than say a 14 game schedule but still important to win all of them.

It appears so far that alot of the teams are pretty even in the TCCC but Curry and WNEC's out of conference schedule put them a step ahead.

I am hoping its nice this weekend so I can take a trip down and check out the games.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 24, 2010, 10:36:36 PM
Big wins for Bates over Husson and Castleton St. crosses the border and beats #9 RPI...

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 25, 2010, 10:06:47 PM
30 games played today!

WPI no longer unbeaten!

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 26, 2010, 12:46:12 PM
Hobbesy,

So we all know it is early, but who are your top 5 teams in New England to date.

And the answer cannot be:

1) EConn - Starters
2) EConn - Reserves
3) Trinity -
4) EConn - JV
5) EConn - Guys who tried out at EConn but did not make the cut

Thanks,

Word ;D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 26, 2010, 01:56:40 PM
Word-

You got me to laugh out loud!  Thats great!!! 

Top five so far???

1.  Eastern
2. Trinity
3. WPI
4. Babson
5. Wesleyan/Worcester St./Westfield St.

What do you think??

Big weekend ahead with lots of key conference matchups...

my thoughts and a look at those big games...

Also,

I will be at the WNEC-Curry doubleheader with a live blog and post game material to follow.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 26, 2010, 02:01:56 PM
Word i think you ment Jconn with that list when he would say

1.  Umass Boston starters
2.  Umass Boston reserves
3. Umass Boston bullpen catchers
4.  Umass Boston Mascot
5.  Nick Conway


really though im going

1.  Trinity
2.  WPI
3. Babson
4. Wesleyan
5. To early to tell

Who do i think will get knocked out of the top five in two weeks?  Wesleyan  Who is going to be in the top five in the next two weeks, Eastern and Keene State, maybe Wheaton
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 26, 2010, 02:17:57 PM
Hobbesy,

Good to hear, that's one of the reasons I'm here on this earth.

If Johns Hopkins were located in New England it would not be much of a discussion, eh? My top 5 would have to include

1) Trinity
2) EConn
3) WPI
4) Winner of the Curry/WNEC battle this weekend
5) Bowdoin, Babson or RIC/UMESS Beacons (JCon - please know Word has R-E-S-P-E-C-T  for the Beacons!)

Could not include Westfield St as they lost 2 to RIC; Records are so deceiving at this point. ??? :P But fun to project.

Where oh where is USM, KSC, Wheaton, will they be there in the end, only time will tell.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on March 26, 2010, 02:20:43 PM
It's always a little hard to tell with Trinity, becuse they don't do much heavy lifting until tournament time.  The sauce, as they say, is in the pudding, however, and you have to give the Bantams the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 26, 2010, 02:43:21 PM
Its going to be easier to guess once teams start playing conference games as you have WNEC/Curry winner in at #4.

The same holds true for the battles to come in the NEWMAC and the Little East.

Its hard to argue but the TCCC, NEWMAC, NESCAC and LEC are going to be the top four conferences this year and those teams will be going at it tooth and nail all year long. 

Keene is in a rut right now but with the way New England baseall works (5 games a week), they and any other team that is struggling can turn it around with two good weeks.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 27, 2010, 12:10:51 PM
Aizenstadt out with an elbow injury.  Not rushing anything.  Some thought he would be back this weekend but they want to make sure. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 27, 2010, 08:07:22 PM
Two good games over at Babson today...

Check out a short recap and interviews here

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 28, 2010, 08:37:45 AM
Hobbesy your blog gets better and better my friend.  Keep up the good work loved the videos from the Babson games.  Give me in your opinion the best games coming up in NE this week.  Being a LEC guy myself im excited for Wheaton vs UMB today because of UMB strong start and Wheaton consistantly being a power team, also Im excited for Keene State vs Wheaton later in the week.  What good games am I missing else where that i need to go see?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 28, 2010, 09:20:52 AM
KSCfan-

Thank you.  I met some parents at the Babson game yesterday as well that said they have been following along. 

Wheaton supposedly has live stats for today's game against the Beacons.  That is a good test for Boston and also for Wheaton's second tier pitchers who will have to deal with a good offense.

As for other games,

Big DH today between Suffolk-St. Joe's and Monday between Curry-WNEC.  Havent had the chance to look any farther ahead but I will let you know by Monday what to look for. 

Lots of rain in the forecast so baseball this week is not looking good.   >:(
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on March 28, 2010, 09:59:55 AM
Hobbesy....
Great stuff on the Babson game. I know its bball season but are you taking in the BC - Yale hockey game today? Just to let you know that their is a new "31" at Eastern - a left handed batter as well but doesn't all the taps at the plate down just yet.

Really missed you out in Phoenix as well as your parents. However, your new "career" seems to keep you in the action. Interesting to see how all the teams in NE react to returning from spring trips and how they fare during week-day games. Everyone seems to get the boxers in a bunch about weekend conference games and forget about those all inmportant in region games during the week. Eastern returns this morning from Arizona and then gets back to back road games in Manhattanville and Amherst before the home opener on Friday with West Conn.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 28, 2010, 12:53:14 PM
Ecfan good point about the midweek region games as these are often where your at large bids are won. The at large bids for those lucky teams are seemed to based off largely your region record making that wed game really important to a lot of teams
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 28, 2010, 04:39:48 PM
Player check-in/update:

Some of you may remember last year a Freshman at WNEC by the name of
Matt Fleishman. He was named TCCC Rookie of the Year. Over the summer he transfered to Villanova.

He is starting for Villanova in LF and after 21 games he is hitting .327 with 9RBI.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 28, 2010, 04:56:25 PM
Ecfan-

That young man has a lot to learn about tapping the plate haha.  Seems a fire really got lit under them after dropping the first two out there.  It was weird not being out there but I am hoping this "job?" fills the hole.

And a great point about mid-week games.  Very important games to win and also very important games to strengthen your pitching staff. 

On length of game,

NEWMAC does a 7 and a 9 during doubleheaders and GNAC, I went to Suffolk-St Joes today, does two 7's.

It just doesnt feel right to not play a full nine but boy do they make for long days!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 28, 2010, 05:15:19 PM
Checked out St. Joes-Suffolk game today in Quincy.  Only was able to stay for the first but was able to get some interviews afterwards.

Pat Moran hit a two-run homer in the top of the sixth to break a 1-1 tie and the Monks won 6-1.  Pretty good game I thought.  Both Moran and Suffolk starter Babb threw well.  Babb hurt by an infield error that extended the inning and allowed Moran to bat in the sixth.

Check out the interviews here!

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on March 28, 2010, 07:23:27 PM
Hobbesy any chance you will be at the ECSU vs UMB DH saturday blogging it??
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on March 28, 2010, 10:49:20 PM
Hobbesy,

Good stuff with the interviews and blog. It really gives a great opportunity to watch/read about the other conferences outside the LEC. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 28, 2010, 11:06:06 PM
Jcon-

Unfortunately no.  It is Easter weekend and my parents are visiting in Boston.  I need to see these Beacons for myself though!

They will have a radio broadcast of the game I believe.  And they were using livestats during the the basketball season so they might have those as well. 

Also, maybe they will have video!  All LEC bball games were streamed so maybe they will have baseball as well.

And thanks LEC Fan.  It is interesting to follow these other conferences.  Some good diamond in the rough type players out there.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 29, 2010, 09:53:54 AM
Poll-  Who is the top team in New England??

Cast your vote here!

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on March 29, 2010, 12:53:49 PM
Hobbesy,

Ya I wont be able to make it up there either its a long drive hopefully they have some sort of connection to the game so I know whats going on.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on March 29, 2010, 02:14:49 PM
Anybody know if Gilbliar will be playing anywere this upcoming season.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on March 29, 2010, 02:31:02 PM
Quote from: Jcon8958 on March 29, 2010, 02:14:49 PM
Anybody know if Gilbliar will be playing anywere this upcoming season.

Heard he will be playing in Independent League team. Do not know which team
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on March 29, 2010, 03:06:33 PM
See if we can get dgilblair on here to see if we know what team
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 31, 2010, 11:54:52 AM
New England poll released:

I was close...I missed out on the Polar Bears though...

Division III
1. Trinity (5) 9-1 47 pts.
2. Babson 11-2  38 pts.
3. Eastern Connecticut (1) 10-3 33 pts.
4. Bowdoin 13-3 28 pts.
5. WPI 11-3 19 pts.
6. Westfield St. 11-3 14 pts.
7. Worcester St. 10-4-1 10 pts.
8. Tufts 8-2 9 pts.
Also Receiving Votes: Wesleyan (6), Southern Maine (5), Western New England (5), Bates (1),
Curry (1).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 31, 2010, 01:21:34 PM
Not going to mention how close I was.....


BREAKING NEWS....... WBZ-TV is reporting there is rioting at the University of Mass - Boston Baseball field, our intrepid reporter, Ace Forkball, files this report.

Yes, that's right Randy, Tens of students are holding plackards spelling out their frustrations to the release of the most recent New England Baseball Poll in which the Beacons were NOT listed as a top team in the region.

I am looking at one sign which, if I read it correctly says:

" I am a UMASS Boston Student- We Demand R-E-S-P-A-C-T for our Baseballers!!"

Let me slid over and ask this person holding the sign a question.

What is your name.
     My name is unimportant. OK, what is it that you are protesting? We want respect for the UMB Baseball team. When do we want it NOW!.
Do you realize you have the word Respect spelled wrong. -->
     Nope, I just hold the signs, JCon and Bobby Beacon are in charge of writing them.
What will it take to get respect for your team?
     Well just look at our record man, UMB is for real; this is the year, they will be a force in the LEC! What more do you need?

Randy, things are getting really tense here, I am going back to the truck. These people are crazy about their baseball team and very, very angry they are still not getting any R-E-S-P-E-C-T .

Thanks Ace. Now for the weather.......
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on March 31, 2010, 01:31:49 PM
Word you need to post more often!!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on March 31, 2010, 02:02:25 PM
Word....
Jcon and BobbyBeacon will be fine after this weekend when they sweep Salem St., Worcester St., and Eastern.  this week. They will probably get some votes in next week's Top 25 poll if the sweep Salem St., Worcester St., and Eastern. I am on board. After all this rain in Rhode Island - I AM a believer. The sun will come out tomorrow.

   
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on March 31, 2010, 02:24:36 PM
I could care less about those rankings I mean USM is on there and they have not won as many games as UMB. Those rankings are a joke its all about what you have done in the past if Flaherty wasnt there they wouldnt be there. Im not just picking on USM there is a few teams that I disagree with. But UMB has a chance to tell whom ever voted on these rankings to take them and shove them up there arse with games vs Worcester St. then ECSU. So that is my take on the rankings.

Also UMB will be playing today @ Salem St.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on March 31, 2010, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on March 31, 2010, 01:21:34 PM
Not going to mention how close I was.....


BREAKING NEWS....... WBZ-TV is reporting there is rioting at the University of Mass - Boston Baseball field, our intrepid reporter, Ace Forkball, files this report.

Yes, that's right Randy, Tens of students are holding plackards spelling out their frustrations to the release of the most recent New England Baseball Poll in which the Beacons were NOT listed as a top team in the region.

I am looking at one sign which, if I read it correctly says:

" I am a UMASS Boston Student- We Demand R-E-S-P-A-C-T for our Baseballers!!"

Let me slid over and ask this person holding the sign a question.

What is your name.
     My name is unimportant. OK, what is it that you are protesting? We want respect for the UMB Baseball team. When do we want it NOW!.
Do you realize you have the word Respect spelled wrong. -->
     Nope, I just hold the signs, JCon and Bobby Beacon are in charge of writing them.
What will it take to get respect for your team?
     Well just look at our record man, UMB is for real; this is the year, they will be a force in the LEC! What more do you need?

Randy, things are getting really tense here, I am going back to the truck. These people are crazy about their baseball team and very, very angry they are still not getting any R-E-S-P-E-C-T .

Thanks Ace. Now for the weather.......

Word,

You never cease to make us all laugh ;D ;D

Hilarious!!!!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on March 31, 2010, 04:15:59 PM
Jcon...
Who are you kidding..... When UMB beats Salem today, Worcester St and then sweeps EConn.... and the Beacons are ranked in the top 25 next week you will be parading those rankings on the 6 o'clock news. Everyone cares about rankings when you're ranked and feel disrespected when you are not. It is just the way it is.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 31, 2010, 04:59:59 PM
Word great post need more from you!

Any updates on lec games today now that the monsoons have maybe ended?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on March 31, 2010, 05:24:12 PM
I was just pointing out the flaws in the voting because you and I both know that USM should not be up there. And I will tell you another thing the fact that they were snubbed and didnt even get a vote will do nothing but motivate them more.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 31, 2010, 09:36:33 PM
Babson wins #12 in a row...look out.

Salem St. a solid win over the Beacons

And, Mitchell tops JWU

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on March 31, 2010, 10:16:34 PM
There's only one ranking that matters...and its the last one so while UMB has won some games and looked very impressive doing so there should be no complaining until they beat who they need to when they need to. Same goes for everyone else.

But they have looked good, and probably should be getting some consideration for what its worth

Just a thought

Ya, Boy
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 01, 2010, 08:10:08 PM
What I think and a preview of this weekends big games!!

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Comment and let me know what you guys think!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 01, 2010, 08:26:11 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 31, 2010, 09:36:33 PM
Babson wins #12 in a row...look out.

Salem St. a solid win over the Beacons

And, Mitchell tops JWU

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Breaking News THIS JUST IN........

We have an Update to an earlier story.

The rain has stopped here in the Boston area, the flood waters are ebbing as fast as the confidence of JCon and Bobby Beacon.

By this weekend the weather, the rivers, and the Beacons will be back in their proper places in New England.

Order is restored.

We now return you to your regular programming.

Word

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 01, 2010, 09:17:21 PM
Babson beaten by Springfield today 4-3
Worcester SC over UMB 12-3
WPI over MIT 11-3
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on April 01, 2010, 10:09:56 PM
ECSUalum....
Did you say that Worcester St beat UMB? The Beacons must be saving all their pitching for Saturday's DH vs the Not So Evil Empire. Tomorrow Eastern plays West Conn in Mansfield. I do think they need a game before Saturday's clash with the new titans of the LEC.

Did you see the first set of NCAA stats just out?
Team Batting Ave.

Rank Name                G      W-L    AB    H    BA
1 Trinity (CT)            10      9-1    354 152  0.429
2 Fredonia St.            9      7-2    300 125  0.417
3 Eastern Conn. St. 13     10-3   487 202  0.415
4 Wis.-Whitewater  11     10-1   386 155  0.402
5 Hope                    13     10-3   412 165  0.400
6 Redlands              24     21-3   883 347  0.393
7 Johns Hopkins      17     14-3   606 234  0.386
8 Manhattanville     17      '          596 227 0.381
10 Gwynedd-Mercy 17      10-7   586 219 0.374

Team Total Runs Ave.
Rank Name               G      W-L     R    PG
1 Eastern Conn. St. 13     10-3 175 13.5
2 Trinity (CT)            10      9-1 127 12.7
3 Wis.-Whitewater  11      10-1 133 12.1
4 Johns Hopkins      17      14-3 199 11.7
5 Redlands              24      21-3 278 11.6
6 Shenandoah         25     20-5 284 11.4
7 Wis.-Platteville       9        6-3 101 11.2
8 Rockford                 9        5-4 100 11.1
9 Thomas (ME)          2        2-0 22   11.0
10 FDU-Florham       15      12-3 163 10.9

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 01, 2010, 11:03:40 PM
ecfaninri,

Yes Sir 12-3 Adriano took the loss.

Score by Innings                             R  H  E
-------------------------------------------
UMass Boston........   000 000 201 -  3  5  3
Worcester State..... 000 235 02X - 12 15  1
-------------------------------------------

Yes saw the stats!!  Lets hope the boys continue tomorrow and Saturday.

How's Will and Matt doing?

See you tomorrow and Sat.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on April 02, 2010, 07:10:10 AM
ECSU alum....

The real spring like conditions this weekend will help both Will and Matt. I will see you tomorrow. Maybe JCon or Bobby Beacon will be there and we can meet them.


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jcon8958 on April 02, 2010, 04:41:03 PM
Andriano didnt pitch yesterday vs WSC Lebrun did and I will not be able to make the trip up to Willi tommorow. Will the game be broadcasted at eastern?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 02, 2010, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: Jcon8958 on April 02, 2010, 04:41:03 PM
Andriano didnt pitch yesterday vs WSC Lebrun did and I will not be able to make the trip up to Willi tommorow. Will the game be broadcasted at eastern?

Sorry, my mistake re above.  must have had Andriano on the brain when I looked at boxscore.
Jconn, it looks as of tonight, no Live stats, no WECS radio, no LEC-TV video!!!!! ???

Check ECSU athletics-baseball-schedule/results next to the game tomorrow morning to confirm!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 02, 2010, 09:47:42 PM
Baseball fans of New England I pose this question to you.  Is the LEC down this year or are other conferences just getting better?  I noticed that Umass Boston who was red hot going into this week dropped a couple of games to the MASCAC, Keene is now 0-2 this year in the NEWMAC with its lost to Wheaton today and as we look at the first NE poll we see a few NESCAC schools and a few other schools that dont usually end up in the top of NE polls.  I love the LEC and have felt that year in and year out its the best d3baseball conference in NE.  in 2007 it sent two teams to the regionals and Keene and Eastern played in the finals of that region to go to Wisconsin, 2008 it sent i think three teams to the regionals which i think is one of the only times a conference got three teams in.  In 2009 it sent two teams again to the regionals.  However, we see Keene and USM struggling so far as well as UMass Boston losing three in a row, meanwhile  you see two NESCAC two MASCAC teams and Babson playing really well, soooooooooooo Is the LEC down or are other conferences shifting the power to them???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: bulldog84 on April 02, 2010, 09:58:16 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 02, 2010, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: Jcon8958 on April 02, 2010, 04:41:03 PM
Andriano didnt pitch yesterday vs WSC Lebrun did and I will not be able to make the trip up to Willi tommorow. Will the game be broadcasted at eastern?

Sorry, my mistake re above.  must have had Andriano on the brain when I looked at boxscore.
Jconn, it looks as of tonight, no Live stats, no WECS radio, no LEC-TV video!!!!! ???

Check ECSU athletics-baseball-schedule/results next to the game tomorrow morning to confirm!!

just checked ECSU-UMB has live audion tomorrow
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 02, 2010, 10:48:35 PM
What an amazing day in New England!!!

Big wins for Western, Eastern Naz, Mass. Maritime!

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You never know what can happen in New England and today is a day that leaves you shaking your head.

Eastern blowing a five-run ninth inning lead, Worcester St. winning 16-2 and then losing 4-3 and Eastern Naz dominating Curry.

Also,

Trinity goes down to Bowdoin.  I had the Polar Bears taking one of three on the weekend.  Can Trinity put this behind them and take two tomorrow???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 03, 2010, 08:13:33 PM
Big day of baseball in New England

Holowaty gets #1,300

NEWMAC top dogs Babson, Wheaton, WPI sweep

St. Joes splits with JWU

Curry and WNEC sweep

and more!

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GNACfan on April 03, 2010, 11:54:32 PM
Any early previews for an all region team at the midway point?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 05, 2010, 09:00:18 AM
GNACfan-

Still too early to tell I think.  Lot of eye popping numbers though!  Is this the year of the hitter in New England.  I have seen at least 10 players with average above the .450 mark.

Also,

My mid-week preview highlighted by WNEC-Curry doubleheader on Wednesday.

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Share your thoughts!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 05, 2010, 12:47:26 PM
Entering the 2nd full week of games back in New England. Here is my Top 15 Poll.
We'll call the Poll --> Word's Words of Wisdom

1) Wheaton
2) Babson
3) Curry
4) Bowdoin
5) Worcester St.
6) Wesleyan
7) Westfield St.
8) Worcester Poly
9) Wentworth
10) Trinity

The W button broke on my computer: Rounding out the Top 10: EConn, Tufts, ST. Joes, RIC, WNEC

Word :D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on April 05, 2010, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 05, 2010, 12:47:26 PM
Entering the 2nd full week of games back in New England. Here is my Top 15 Poll.
We'll call the Poll --> Word's Words of Wisdom

1) Wheaton
2) Babson
3) Curry
4) Bowdoin
5) Worcester St.
6) Wesleyan
7) Westfield St.
8) Worcester Poly
9) Wentworth
10) Trinity

The W button broke on my computer: Rounding out the Top 10: EConn, Tufts, ST. Joes, RIC, WNEC

Word :D


Hey Word...I like the pole but also think the trinitizers are a little low and the wheaties are too high...This weekend will prove who is better between Wheaton and the beavers with a dbl dip on Sat. at Babson.

I also still dont see Westfield holding up with any of these teams if they were to play one another...But then again...I've already been wrong alot this year..

Ya, Boy
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 05, 2010, 04:34:53 PM
Quote from: YA, Boy on April 05, 2010, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 05, 2010, 12:47:26 PM
Entering the 2nd full week of games back in New England. Here is my Top 15 Poll.
We'll call the Poll --> Word's Words of Wisdom

1) Wheaton
2) Babson
3) Curry
4) Bowdoin
5) Worcester St.
6) Wesleyan
7) Westfield St.
8) Worcester Poly
9) Wentworth
10) Trinity

The W button broke on my computer: Rounding out the Top 10: EConn, Tufts, ST. Joes, RIC, WNEC

Word :D


Hey Word...I like the pole but also think the trinitizers are a little low and the wheaties are too high...This weekend will prove who is better between Wheaton and the beavers with a dbl dip on Sat. at Babson.

I also still dont see Westfield holding up with any of these teams if they were to play one another...But then again...I've already been wrong alot this year..

Ya, Boy

Ya, Boy,

Ya Know Ya Boy, I had to take a shower after I published this. The fact that me "a noble-fared, long-haired, Leaping LEC gnome", would not have any LEC teams in the top 10, knowing full well that few of these teams could compete inside the LEC, made me feel all icky. But this poll thing is a lot like what herb brooks said to the US Hockey team, you don't have to beat them 10 out of 10 times, just tonight. And right now is not the middle of may when we will see the top teams sort things out and rise in the poll.

Not to mention that I have a history of rants about Wheaton always getting a higher rating than deserved. But, in the spirit of fairness I decided to rate them as they have played to date. Trinity could have slid up a couple of spots, but they lost to Bowdoin 2 of 3, and I don't see Bowdoin being as strong a squad as Wheaton, Babson or Curry.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on April 05, 2010, 04:48:04 PM
I love it word but dont sell the LEC short, they do play a tough schedule and while i agree the big time names havent gotten the wheels rolling quite yet...ECSU is showing serious signs of life and UMB rolled Wheaton not too long ago...I think the LEC tournament will be very interesting this year.

Who do you think comes outta the LEC so far?

Ya, Boy
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: straightHeat3 on April 05, 2010, 04:54:36 PM
Just got a text from Buster Olney himself... WNEC leads ECON 8-0 bottom of the 4th. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBearsAlum15 on April 05, 2010, 06:39:13 PM
WNEC takes down ECSU 11-6...good win for the GBears as they improve to 15-4 on the season. If they can sweep Curry on Wednesday, they should be in good shape in the CCC and should be high up on the New England rankings. For ECSU, that would have been a quality W, but it shouldn't hurt them too much. Weekday road games on the road to quality opponents are never easy.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 05, 2010, 07:23:20 PM
Word:
  Great analysis once again. You really must have been in the shower for a long time :P  How long has it been when the LEC is not in the top 10? You know when things shake out the LEC will be well represented. Although it's looking like it may be some different combinations than other years.


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 05, 2010, 09:41:41 PM
solid day in New England...

Western keeps doing it

WNEC and Wentworth both win six straight

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My Top 10:  Not taking into account today's games

1. Babson
2. Bowdoin
3. Trinity
4. Eastern CT
5. WNEC
6.Wheaton
7. Westfield St.
8. Tufts
9. WPI
10. RIC
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: straightHeat3 on April 06, 2010, 11:06:59 AM
For what its worth, New ABCA poll that was released today.


April 6, 2010
next poll – April 20

Rank School                             Record Points Last Rank
1. (8) St. Thomas (Minn.)          15-1      240      1
2. Chapman (Calif.)                   20-4     232      2
3. Wis.-Whitewater                   12-1     219      6
4. Johns Hopkins (Md.)              18-3     210      7
5. Mississippi College                24-4     196      4
6. Wooster (Ohio)                     16-4     193      5
7. Redlands (Calif.)                    24-3     185      9
8. Pomona-Pitzer (Calif.)           23-5      184     12
9. Heidelberg (Ohio)                  17-3     181       8
10. Marietta (Ohio)                   17-4      172      10
11. Birmingham-Southern (Ala.) 24-4     153      15
12. Salisbury (Md.)                    18-4      149      11
13. Trinity (Conn.)                     10-3      138       3
14. Shenandoah (Va.)               23-6      131      14
15. Cortland (N.Y.) State           15-6      129      13
16. St. Scholastica (Minn.)         15-3      106       22
17. Pacific Lutheran (Wash.)      19-6     101       19
18. Plattsburgh (N.Y.) State       17-1      94        26
19. Kean (N.J.)                           15-6       92       18
20. Linfield (Ore.)                       18-7       82       17
21. Trinity (Texas)                      23-7       69       24
22. Eastern Connecticut State   12-4       59       23
23. Rochester (N.Y.)                   14-3       58       25
24. Texas-Tyler                          23-7        54       30
25. Augustana (Ill.)                   13-4         52       16
26. Methodist (N.C.)                   20-8       44        28
27. Rose-Hulman (Ind.)             16-5        34         20
28. Huntingdon (Ala.)                 23-9       31         21
29. Concordia-Chicago 1            4-3         23         29
30. Rowan (N.J.)                       12-6 2       0           nr


Also receiving votes (alphabetically): Babson (Mass.), Bowdoin (Maine), Carthage (Wis.), George Fox (Ore.),
Hampden-Sydney (Va.), Penn State Behrend, Rensselaer (N.Y.), Rhodes (Tenn.), Texas Lutheran, Wis.-Stevens
Point, Western New England (Mass.), Wheaton (Ill.), Wheaton (Mass.), Worcester (Mass.) Polytechnic Institute.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on April 06, 2010, 12:50:57 PM
I don't quite get it.  Trinity lost two to a very good Bowdoin team and dropped 10 points in the poll.  Wooster lost two to rather mediocre Allegheny and Case Western teams and dropped 1.  Where is the love?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on April 06, 2010, 06:18:08 PM
IMO it's because NE baseball gets limited respect nationally with the exception of EConn and USM.  See Bowdoin and Babson yet to crack the polls.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 06, 2010, 10:11:38 PM
Not a good day for New England's top two teams...

Both Babson and Bowdoin go down

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: 3rdgenerationnation on April 08, 2010, 01:31:03 PM
Babson staged a huge comback aganist Endicott to win 17-13.  They set a program record with 7 homers.  Both teams hit a few balls that got up into a stiff breeze and went out. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 08, 2010, 09:30:09 PM
Going to be a very exciting weekend throughout New England.  Lots of big conference matchups highlighted by Wheaton-Babson on Saturday.

My thoughts, a weekend preview and today's scoreboard...

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Thoughts?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 08, 2010, 09:36:23 PM
Hobbesy good stuff on the blog, as usual i love reading your work.  Wanted to throw this out there to the fellow NE.  The leagues are very close this year and you see lots of teams beating each other.  What teams are going to get the at large bids?  I mean right now I dont see any team in NE that is a lock to get into the tournament even if they dont win thier conference. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 09, 2010, 12:45:47 PM
Latest NCAA College Baseball D-I to D-III stats available:
http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/ncaa-m-basebl-stats-index.html
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 10, 2010, 09:46:33 PM
Lots of action in New England today!!!

Some upsets and some surprises!!!

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 11, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
Lots of baseball today.

Log jam in TCCC with Endicott leading the way.

Bowdoin and Tufts playing great in the NESCAC and Suffolk running away with the GNAC regular season.

All that and more...

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 12, 2010, 09:57:45 AM
My New England Poll--this weeks is released today

1. Bowdoin
2. Wheaton
3. Eastern
4. Tufts
5. Trinity
6. WNEC
7. Babson
8. WPI
9. RIC
10. Wentworth
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 12, 2010, 11:25:05 AM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 12, 2010, 09:57:45 AM
My New England Poll--this weeks is released today

1. Bowdoin
2. Wheaton
3. Eastern
4. Tufts
5. Trinity
6. WNEC
7. Babson
8. WPI
9. RIC
10. Wentworth

Hobbesy,

Ya beat me to it. Here is mine:

1. Wheaton
2. Wesleyan
3. St. Joe's
4. Endicott
5. Bowdoin
6. WNEC
7. Eastern
8. Trinity
9. RIC
10. Tufts

Next 5 - Curry, Wentworth, Worcester St., WPI, Babson (Lurking - KSC)

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on April 12, 2010, 03:12:56 PM
I love how there is so much parity this year where you can get so many different results.  Word had Wes at #2 and Hobbesy left them off altogther.  Nothing is established yet.

While we are at it...

1.  Wheaton (17-5) - After a down year back on track and looking good with sweep over Babson.
2.  Bowdoin (19-5) - Best series win when they knocked off Trin.
3.  ECSU (16-6) - Pitching needs to come around, but they mash.
4.  Wesleyan (19-6) - Not always pretty, but they win.  Sonnenfeld is a monster.
5.  WNEC (21-6) - Good win over ECSU, similar team to them as well.  They mash, but limited pitching.
6.  Trinity (13-4) - Missing Graham, but Wood could be New England's best hitter.
7.  Tufts (15-3) - Quietly winning games, but huge matchup with Trin this weekend is first real challenge.
8.  RIC (15-5) - Suprise of the region and leading the LEC.
9.  Babson (17-7) - Great start, but they need Aizenstadt to do any real damage in Regionals.
10. St. Joe's (19-9) - Already split with toughest challenger GNAC challenger Suffolk.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 13, 2010, 12:13:20 PM
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Paul Sweeney, Publicist
Date: Monday, April 12, 2010
Phone: 617/627-3586
Email: paul.sweeney@tufts.edu
New England Divisions I, II & III College Baseball Coaches Polls
(Conducted by New England College Baseball Coaches, First Place Votes in parentheses,
followed by record and total points)
Division III

Division III
1. Bowdoin (3) 19-5 37 pts.
2. Wheaton (1) 17-5 33 pts.
3. Tufts 15-3 27 pts.
4. Trinity 13-4 23 pts.
5. Western New England (1) 21-6 22 pts.
5. Eastern Connecticut (1) 16-6 22 pts.
7. Babson 17-7 20 pts.
8. WPI 17-5 9 pts.
Also Receiving Votes: Wesleyan (8), Endicott (6), Rhode Island College (4), Worcester State
(4), Wentworth (1).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 13, 2010, 10:22:54 PM
I had the top eight right...

Some good games today in New England.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on April 14, 2010, 04:20:57 PM
Curry completes a three game beating of wheaton for the season...


soooo when do we start letting the colonels in on the NE ranks???

Ya, Boy
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on April 14, 2010, 06:27:39 PM
Quote from: YA, Boy on April 14, 2010, 04:20:57 PM
Curry completes a three game beating of wheaton for the season...


soooo when do we start letting the colonels in on the NE ranks???

Ya, Boy

+1 K for your floating signature line.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 14, 2010, 09:47:28 PM
Endicott making some noise in TCCC...now 13-1 in the conference

Also, Babson gets beat up again...

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 15, 2010, 10:46:49 AM
Fans of NE d3 baseball, most teams have reached the half way point or are around their half way point of the season.  My question to you...  Who are the biggest surprises of the season, who are the disapointments of the season, who are the best 5 players in NE and if you had to pick 8 to go to a regional right now who would they be? 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 15, 2010, 12:17:59 PM
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/ncaahome?WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=/wps/wcm/connect/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2010/division+iii/nine+tccc+members+plan+new+diii+conference_04_08_10_ncaa_news&utm_source=delivra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NCAA%20News%20Direct
This will be tough on the teams remaining. How will it affect automatic bids, etc. Probably means the end of TCCC.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on April 15, 2010, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on April 15, 2010, 10:46:49 AM
Fans of NE d3 baseball, most teams have reached the half way point or are around their half way point of the season.  My question to you...  Who are the biggest surprises of the season, who are the disapointments of the season, who are the best 5 players in NE and if you had to pick 8 to go to a regional right now who would they be? 

At this particular moment in time, your 8-team regional would have to be (in no particular order):

Endicott (winnner, TCCC)
Suffolk (winner GNAC)
Rhode Island (winner LEC)
Worcester State (winner MASCAC)
Castleton State (winner NAC)
Tufts (winner NESCAC)
Wheaton (winner NEWMAC)
Trinity (best of the rest according to the polls)

I don't think that's what it will look like at the end of the regular season, but there are some teams that need to start taking care of business.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 15, 2010, 03:36:39 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on April 15, 2010, 10:46:49 AM
Fans of NE d3 baseball, most teams have reached the half way point or are around their half way point of the season.  My question to you...  Who are the biggest surprises of the season, who are the disapointments of the season, who are the best 5 players in NE and if you had to pick 8 to go to a regional right now who would they be? 

The most surprising thing for me this year is the apparent parity we are seeing across New England. On any given day......

The second most suprising thing is Zak Talis - UMD

Disappointments - Inconsistency of KSC squad who I had picked to go to the Appleton this year. Unless the boys turn it around real quick they might not leave New Hampshire.

Players having great years....OK I am going to name names that might surprise you...
Talis - UMD
Fluegge - Worcester St
Macchi - UMD
Eaton - USM
Doyon - KSC
Henry - USM
Melvin C. - Econn


8 Regional teams -

EConn
WNEC
Wheaton
Suffolk
Worcester St
Tufts
Curry
Trinity

Word

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: straightHeat3 on April 15, 2010, 04:06:29 PM
Think a name that isn't floating around New England that should be is Joe Griglun from WNEC...

Player            avg  gp-gs    ab     r    h   2b  3b  hr  rbi  tb  slg% 

Joe Griglun    .462  28-28  106  27  49  11    0    4  40  72  .679 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 15, 2010, 06:13:13 PM
I have to say that I am most surprised by the closeness (is that a word) of each conference right now.  Until this year I had not looked at scores every single day but I am sure there were the same kind of upsets in previous years.  That is why I am saying the parity in the conference. 

GNAC- Suffolk leads but St. Joes right behind
LEC- RIC leads but three teams within a game of each other
MASCAC- Three way tie for first and two teams within a game of top seed
NAC- Castleton and Husson dominating and will decide the #1 seed with four-game set coming up
NESCAC- Bowdoing, Tufts and Trinity in the East and Wesleyan, Amherst, Williams in the West are all still in contention
NEWMAC- Wheaton has share of first locked up but WPI-Babson can play
TCCC- Endicott at 13-1 but three teams at 12-4

Instead of disappointing, I will go with unnerving.  What is with some of these ridiculous stat lines!!??  A handful of kids hitting over .500 at this point in the year?!  Is the pitching going down or are these kids just that good of hitters...

Best 5 players-

Joe Griglun- WNEC- power bat and a consistent hitter-good call straightheat
John Parke- ECSU- hits everything and great speed
Pat Moran- St. Joes- can pitch and hit and when hes on he is on
James Wood- Trinity- Drops bombs and is whole key to the offense without Graham
Tim Sweeney- Curry- Can hit, drive in runs and score em

The Mansfield 8-

GNAC- St. Joe's
LEC- ECSU
MASCAC- Westfield St.
NAC- Castleton if they win it- if the other division wins they might not get put in New England
NESCAC- Trinity
NEWMAC- Wheaton
TCCC- WNEC

Pool C- Bowdoin/Tufts

If Castleton or Husson do not get the NAC bid a New York Region team may be shipped into New England or N.E. will get to pool C's.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on April 15, 2010, 08:48:11 PM
Cannot Overlook the numbers being put up by Sean Ryan...Wheaton Frosh hittin .450+ with 23 rbis and 11 sb's not to mention sluggin .738

may get over looked because he is so young but those numbers arent lying to any one...

Ya, Boy
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GNACfan on April 15, 2010, 10:23:23 PM
What about St. Joes Keneborus hitting .449 with 50 RBI

Suffolk has a freshman Mendez hitting over .400 20 RBI and pitching well

C Barrett hitting .440 and not seeing anything to hit all year.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 15, 2010, 10:29:55 PM
GNACfan-

Great point about those three players.  Saw Keneborus play against Suffolk and was immediately impressed by his size and his swing.  Big guy who can pound the ball and his having a great season.  Hardest thing to do in New England is stand out as an outfielder because there are so many guys with gaudy numbers.

***And as soon as I finished writing this I read that Keneborus was national hitter of the week!  11 double and 10 triples for the Monks.  I think it is safe to say he is one of the top ten if not five players in New England.***  

And I believe Barrett was an honorable mention All-American last year.  He is a gritty player that does multiple things to help his team succeed.  The Rams will miss him alot next year IMO.  

As for this weekend... tons to look forward to with alot of great matchups!  Check out the weekend preview and share your thoughts...

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GNACfan on April 16, 2010, 12:54:46 AM
they are just not talked about. if they are not top notch players then they are guys to watch. they play the game right and hit the balll hard keneborus has stepped up this year.
Barrett this year seems to be a guy who will play where ever they ask him to and he has changed his approach to suit his team
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 16, 2010, 01:15:21 AM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 15, 2010, 06:13:13 PM
I have to say that I am most surprised by the closeness (is that a word) of each conference right now.  Until this year I had not looked at scores every single day but I am sure there were the same kind of upsets in previous years.  That is why I am saying the parity in the conference. 

GNAC- Suffolk leads but St. Joes right behind
LEC- RIC leads but three teams within a game of each other
MASCAC- Three way tie for first and two teams within a game of top seed
NAC- Castleton and Husson dominating and will decide the #1 seed with four-game set coming up
NESCAC- Bowdoing, Tufts and Trinity in the East and Wesleyan, Amherst, Williams in the West are all still in contention
NEWMAC- Wheaton has share of first locked up but WPI-Babson can play
TCCC- Endicott at 13-1 but three teams at 12-4

Instead of disappointing, I will go with unnerving.  What is with some of these ridiculous stat lines!!??  A handful of kids hitting over .500 at this point in the year?!  Is the pitching going down or are these kids just that good of hitters...

Best 5 players-

Joe Griglun- WNEC- power bat and a consistent hitter-good call straightheat
John Parke- ECSU- hits everything and great speed
Pat Moran- St. Joes- can pitch and hit and when hes on he is on
James Wood- Trinity- Drops bombs and is whole key to the offense without Graham
Tim Sweeney- Curry- Can hit, drive in runs and score em

The Mansfield 8-

GNAC- St. Joe's
LEC- ECSU
MASCAC- Westfield St.
NAC- Castleton if they win it- if the other division wins they might not get put in New England
NESCAC- Trinity
NEWMAC- Wheaton
TCCC- WNEC

Pool C- Bowdoin/Tufts

If Castleton or Husson do not get the NAC bid a New York Region team may be shipped into New England or N.E. will get to pool C's.
Hobbesy is right.  The NAC has an affiliation agreement with the NEAC for access to the AQ.

NEAC hosts on May 8th and 9th.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 17, 2010, 06:07:56 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 15, 2010, 06:13:13 PM
I have to say that I am most surprised by the closeness (is that a word) of each conference right now.  Until this year I had not looked at scores every single day but I am sure there were the same kind of upsets in previous years.  That is why I am saying the parity in the conference. 

GNAC- Suffolk leads but St. Joes right behind
LEC- RIC leads but three teams within a game of each other
MASCAC- Three way tie for first and two teams within a game of top seed
NAC- Castleton and Husson dominating and will decide the #1 seed with four-game set coming up
NESCAC- Bowdoing, Tufts and Trinity in the East and Wesleyan, Amherst, Williams in the West are all still in contention
NEWMAC- Wheaton has share of first locked up but WPI-Babson can play
TCCC- Endicott at 13-1 but three teams at 12-4

Instead of disappointing, I will go with unnerving.  What is with some of these ridiculous stat lines!!??  A handful of kids hitting over .500 at this point in the year?!  Is the pitching going down or are these kids just that good of hitters...

Best 5 players-

Joe Griglun- WNEC- power bat and a consistent hitter-good call straightheat
John Parke- ECSU- hits everything and great speed
Pat Moran- St. Joes- can pitch and hit and when hes on he is on
James Wood- Trinity- Drops bombs and is whole key to the offense without Graham
Tim Sweeney- Curry- Can hit, drive in runs and score em

The Mansfield 8-

GNAC- St. Joe's
LEC- ECSU
MASCAC- Westfield St.
NAC- Castleton if they win it- if the other division wins they might not get put in New England
NESCAC- Trinity
NEWMAC- Wheaton
TCCC- WNEC

Pool C- Bowdoin/Tufts

If Castleton or Husson do not get the NAC bid a New York Region team may be shipped into New England or N.E. will get to pool C's.

a few observations or questions on a rainy Saturday:
1) if Castleton wins might they be sent to NY or is NY that much stronger a field than New England  this year? I would guess if Husson wins they stay in New England.
2)Doesn't seem to be an Endicott bandwagon. Even with their record nobody seems to believe they'll be in the running.
3)Any pool C's in NE would be NESCAC or NEWMAC  reps I would  guess unless somebody gets real hot in the LEC real quick
4)Pitching seems to be either very good or absolutely horrible this spring.  I've seen some of the most well pitched games and then the other games look like slow pitch softball scores

Just my two cents(maybe 4 cents with inflation) :P
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 17, 2010, 09:42:30 PM
No one seems to be talking about the break up of the CCC. What does that mean for the teams in the new conference and the teams remaining? where does the autobid go? What if the remaining teams add enough teams to retain the bid. What happens to the teams that are leaving? The whole thing sucks the way it's come down. Not exactly D3 athletics in action.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 17, 2010, 10:44:41 PM
What's behind the breakup? Different schools and focus on different sports? Is it just politics? From the release it seems like the remaining teams could gather some teams to hold the conference together and keep the AQ.  Would leave the departing teams out of an AQ for a couple years.  Does it revolve around baseball or other sports? Be interesting to see how it plays out.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 17, 2010, 11:20:08 PM
Some of this debate has occurred on the Men's Hoops board...

starting at Pat Coleman's Post 3461 (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4235.3461)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 18, 2010, 08:34:10 AM
"share a focus on student-athlete success and commitment to standards for competitive play,"  Sounds like political speak to me.  And sounds like it doesn't start with baseball.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 18, 2010, 09:46:30 AM
Quote from: Stump on April 18, 2010, 08:34:10 AM
"share a focus on student-athlete success and commitment to standards for competitive play,"  Sounds like political speak to me.  And sounds like it doesn't start with baseball.

Practically speaking, 14 teams was becoming unwieldy, especially in an area of the country where there are so many D-III schools.  You only need 7 for an AQ.

This breakup was almost inevitable.  We have seen it in the long history of the Middle Atlantic Conference (http://gomacsports.com/documents/2009/12/11/MAC%20History.pdf?tab=history).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on April 18, 2010, 10:15:55 AM
Ralph...
Does the UAA get an automatic bid this year? If so does Rochester go to the NY or NE region?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on April 18, 2010, 01:20:13 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on April 18, 2010, 10:15:55 AM
Ralph...
Does the UAA get an automatic bid this year? If so does Rochester go to the NY or NE region?
Not Ralph, but I can say that the UAA does not get a baseball Pool A.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 18, 2010, 01:23:55 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 18, 2010, 01:20:13 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on April 18, 2010, 10:15:55 AM
Ralph...
Does the UAA get an automatic bid this year? If so does Rochester go to the NY or NE region?
Not Ralph, but I can say that the UAA does not get a baseball Pool A.
+1!  that Oshdude guy is good!   :)

Rochester can get the LL Pool A bid.

The UAA is two teams short of a Pool A bid.

CMU and NYU do not offer baseball, and Chicago competes as an independent.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 18, 2010, 06:08:17 PM
My apologies,

I apologize for not posting yesterday.  I was tied up with a charity softball tournament and a hockey banquet.  I am combing yesterday and today's games into one post tonight.  It will be up later.

As for today...what else can happen in New England that does not already have us shaking our heads????
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on April 18, 2010, 08:28:09 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 18, 2010, 06:08:17 PM
My apologies,

I apologize for not posting yesterday.  I was tied up with a charity softball tournament and a hockey banquet.  I am combing yesterday and today's games into one post tonight.  It will be up later.

As for today...what else can happen in New England that does not already have us shaking our heads????

Wheaton could of and did complete the sweep of WPI locking up the regular season NEWMAC...Layin it to them in both games, look to be rolling at right time....complete opposite of last year. Trinity falls to Tufts in extras and EConn drops to Ply St....WHAT!?!?!? Hobbsey PLEASE FILL US IN!

Ya, Boy
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on April 18, 2010, 08:36:08 PM
What  else could happen in New England?  How about the Colby Mules kicking the Polar Bears TWICE today!! Just when it looked like Bowdoin was a lock for the playoffs and Colby was .....Colby.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 18, 2010, 08:38:16 PM
Ya Boy,

Here is ECSU @ PSU game two box score/play by play:

http://www.easternct.edu/athletics/men_baseball/ecbb418b_016.htm

Good pitching and clutch hitting by PSU, two base running mental errors by the Warriors.

Wheaton looks nasty this year!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on April 18, 2010, 08:43:44 PM
ECSUalum,  Did you mean AGAIN this year?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 18, 2010, 08:52:07 PM
Quote from: 363dp on April 18, 2010, 08:43:44 PM
ECSUalum,  Did you mean AGAIN this year?

No, this year, as Wheaton faded at the end last year, (lost nine of 15) and never made the NE Regional
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: 363dp on April 18, 2010, 09:08:26 PM
What about 2008, 2007, 2006...............  Yes they missed the regionals last year.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 18, 2010, 09:12:55 PM
Yes 363dp, Wheaton has always had an excellent baseball program.

Would be nice to see them in the CWS this year ;)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on April 18, 2010, 09:47:54 PM
ECSUalum....
The only shocking thing in the EConn/PSU game was the fact this was the lowest run total (4) in any game this year. 11 hits - 12 LOB - Fontaine, Tingley, and Dutton struck out 12 batters, but Matt struggled in the first with two walks, and a HBP and a single before settling down and striking out four in a row and got snake bit with two singles in the third. It was interesting that Coach H pulled him so quickly. But it was good to see Tingley come in and go 3.1 innnings and only give up 3 singles with six K's. Dutton came in faced 5 batters  with two k's and two pickoffs. It just seemed like it was panic city when it was 5-0 in the third inning with this lineup.

Thomson had a monster day. Schult had another fine pitching performance.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 18, 2010, 10:19:20 PM
What a day around New Enlgand!

The outcomes of these games and the way the season is going is giving us something to talk about on these boards!!!!

Also added some interviews with Trin-Tufts coaches!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on April 19, 2010, 12:02:12 AM
Love it Hobbsey that blog is really coming into something of its own...good to see for D3 Ball in NE

This season has been so great. I think the tournaments are going to be exciting in all conferences and I really dont think I can say who the best team in NE is because on a given day it looks like anyone could take one or two on the chin.  Just makes for more exciting games for us and who will complain about that?!!?

Ya, Boy

Ps. I know the NEWMAC tourny is this coming week...when's the LEC and CCC?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on April 19, 2010, 03:23:45 AM
Quote from: YA, Boy on April 19, 2010, 12:02:12 AM
Love it Hobbsey that blog is really coming into something of its own...good to see for D3 Ball in NE

This season has been so great. I think the tournaments are going to be exciting in all conferences and I really dont think I can say who the best team in NE is because on a given day it looks like anyone could take one or two on the chin.  Just makes for more exciting games for us and who will complain about that?!!?

Ya, Boy

Ps. I know the NEWMAC tourny is this coming week...when's the LEC and CCC?


May

Wed.   12          Little East Tournament (Six-team, double-elimination)
Thu.   13          Little East Tournament (Six-team, double-elimination)
Fri.   14          Little East Tournament (Six-team, double-elimination)
Sat.   15          Little East Tournament (Six-team, double-elimination)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBearsAlum15 on April 19, 2010, 08:16:47 AM
YaBoy--

The last TCCC games are this coming weekend, so the conference tourney will start at the beginning of next week. I believe that the opening round starts on Tuesday April 27th. There are still two big doubleheaders that will determine the top three spots in the standings...Endicott-Curry and Endicott-WNEC.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 19, 2010, 08:28:01 AM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 18, 2010, 10:19:20 PM
What a day around New Enlgand!

The outcomes of these games and the way the season is going is giving us something to talk about on these boards!!!!

Also added some interviews with Trin-Tufts coaches!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)

Hobbesy,

Again, love the blog, AND, the interviews are superb!!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 19, 2010, 12:23:04 PM
Quote from: 363dp on April 18, 2010, 09:08:26 PM
What about 2008, 2007, 2006...............  Yes they missed the regionals last year.

363dp,

See my, (Big Poppa's),  comments re Wheaton on the D3baseball.com top 25 thread.  Predicting they make a move into top 25 soon if not this week.

Bet you are glad they do not have to play Curry College again ;)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on April 19, 2010, 02:56:50 PM
For what it's worth - My NE Regional rankings after this weekends events:

1. WNEC (25-6) - Winners of 9 straight and fresh off a sweep of a solid Wentworth.
2. Wheaton (21-7) - Coming off domination of WPI.  They just hope not to see Curry.
3. Tufts (17-3) - In the driver's seat in the NESCAC and swept at DH versus Trin.
4. RIC (17-7) - Leading the LEC with a huge DH vs ECSU looming.
5. Wesleyan (21-7) - Can clinch the NESCAC West w/series win vs. Williams this weekend.
6. ECSU (19-7) - Bad loss to PSU this weekend.  Busy week coming with Suffolk, Trin, Wesleyan, and RIC.
7. Endicott (20-9) - Their real challenges are still to come with DH's left vs. Curry and WNEC.
8. St. Joes (23-10) - No great wins, but they beat who they should.
9. Bowdoin (20-7) - Struggled this weekend with Colby, but I had them ranked too high to know them all the way out.
10. Babson (18-11) - Hanging on, but headed in the wrong direction.  The wait for Aizenstadt continues.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 19, 2010, 05:02:41 PM
1. Tufts- Have won 12 of 13 and DH sweep of Trin
2. Wheaton- Lost two to Curry but have been beating up on everyone else
3. WNEC- have won nine straight and have played a great out of conference schedule
4. Bowdoin- Swept by Colby but that should not drop them to far
5. ECSU- tough loss to Plymouth but this week will be a test
6. Wesleyan- having a great year but still not impressing me yet
7. Trinity- Tough losses to Tufts and need to take it personal as Decker said yesterday
8. RIC- Leading the LEC but two big games against ECSU this weekend
9. Worcester St.- leading the MASCAC and scoring some runs
10. St. Joe's- Had WPI here intially but the Monks have played some good baseball.  


No matter what the order is this week it is sure to change by next week, drastically.  
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBearsAlum15 on April 19, 2010, 07:17:04 PM
Both rankings above seem to be pretty accurate to this point. Out of both Rick Vaughn and Hobbesy's New England rankings, I feel that Wheaton and WNEC are the strongest teams (currently, subject to change). The problem with most of the top teams in New England this year is clearly the pitching. Having said that, Wheaton and WNEC are the two best teams in my opinion because they have a good combination of solid pitching and hitting. The two other teams near the bottom of your rankings that have that combination are Trinity and Worcester St. As long as Trinity can sneak into the NESCAC tournament, I think they can very easily win it and do damage. A team like ECSU can also very easily do damage if their pitching gets healthy, because we always know that they will hit the crap out of the ball. Should be an interesting next week or so in New England and the rankings will shape into form.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 19, 2010, 08:29:00 PM
1.Wheaton
2.Tufts
3.WNEC
4.Worcester St.
5. Endicott
6.Trinity
7.Wesleyan
8.St. Joe's
9.RIC
10. EConn

Best of the Rest: Bowdoin, Castleton State, Curry, Williams, WPI, Babson,

Hobbesy & Rick V.always have so much more in-depth analysis than me. Great job as always guys. But for what it is worth. Also I always try to highlight a team not otherwise on the radar screen of others....a few weeks ago it was the Worcester St. squad, then St. Joe's; this week it is Castleton St.

Word


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on April 19, 2010, 09:12:36 PM
Here's my top ten to this point of the season.
1.Tufts
2.Wesleyan
3.Bowdoin
4.WNEC
5.Trinity
6.Worcester St.
7.WPI
8.Wheaton
9..RIC
10.Eastern Conn St

Wentworth
Westfield St.
Castleton St.

ECSUalum.....
The Warriors will be there in the end. Pitching will be key. Matt is healthy and Musson will be ready for Trinity tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 19, 2010, 09:14:20 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on April 19, 2010, 09:12:36 PM
Here's my top ten to this point of the season.
1.Tufts
2.Wesleyan
3.Bowdoin
4.WNEC
5.Trinity
6.Worcester St.
7.WPI
8.Wheaton
9..RIC
10.Eastern Conn St

Wentworth
Westfield St.
Castleton St.

ECSUalum.....
The Warriors will be there in the end. Pitching will be key. Matt is healthy and Musson will be ready for Trinity tomorrow.

WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seen you tomorrow ;D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 19, 2010, 10:16:19 PM
Good day in New England.  Marathon Monday!

WNEC won a marathon doubleheader over Anna Maria and the MASCAC saw four sweeps.

The season is coming to a close and every game is important!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: NEBaseballFan on April 20, 2010, 01:11:35 AM
These polls look terrible, how do you not have Curry College in the top 10? if not, why is wheaton that high. Curry beat them 3 times this year with ease, no problem. 2 neutral sites, 1 @ wheaton. Curry embarrassed Babson too. All this tells me is that TCCC could be the strongest in N.E.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 20, 2010, 08:19:26 AM
Quote from: NEBaseballFan on April 20, 2010, 01:11:35 AM
These polls look terrible, how do you not have Curry College in the top 10? if not, why is wheaton that high. Curry beat them 3 times this year with ease, no problem. 2 neutral sites, 1 @ wheaton. Curry embarrassed Babson too. All this tells me is that TCCC could be the strongest in N.E.

NEBaseballFan,

You raise an excellent point, especially regarding Wheaton & Curry. I think the thing that hurt Curry was a 3-4 run in early to mid-April. They have rebounded with 4 straight wins, all over quality opponents (Wheaton (2), Wentworth, Babson). Bottom line is I rated Curry lower than I should have. Curry would move in my poll to 7th or 8th, Wheaton is still #1.

Not sure I agree as much about TCCC strength. Whilst a couple of teams are very solid at the top of this lame-duck conference, the rest are not what I would call elite.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 20, 2010, 09:08:26 AM
By process of elimination given the most recent National Poll released D3Baseball and dated April 18, 2010--> here are their Top 8 for New England:

1. Trinity
2. EConn
3. Wheaton
4. Tufts
5. Bowfoin
6. WNEC
7. Worcester St.
8. Curry

There ya go NEBaseballFan, more vindication for the Colonels  ;D

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: straightHeat3 on April 20, 2010, 09:49:23 AM
Can someone explain why EConn is still ranked?

Sitting at 19-8; dropping two at home this weekend to PSU and Suffolk? Don't see to many quality wins on that sched...
Am im missing something or what?  ???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: straightHeat3 on April 20, 2010, 10:00:52 AM
New ABCA Poll, April 20th

Rank School                                             Record Points Last Rank
1. (5) Wis.-Whitewater                             23-2       236    3
2. (2) Johns Hopkins (Md.)                        30-3       234    4
3. St. Thomas (Minn.)                                20-4       212    1
4. Chapman (Calif.)                                   24-7       199    2
5. Wooster (Ohio)                                     25-7       198    6
6. (1) Birmingham-Southern (Ala.)             33-4       196   11
7. Shenandoah (Va.)                                 33-7       174   14
8. Redlands (Calif.)                                    27-6       170     7
9. Mississippi College                                28-7       166      5
10. St. Scholastica (Minn.)                        26-3        163    16
11. Marietta (Ohio)                                   24-6        162     10
12. Heidelberg (Ohio)                               24-6        159      9
13. Cortland (N.Y.) State                          24-6        158     15
14. Pomona-Pitzer (Calif.)                        26-8         157      8
15. Trinity (Texas)                                    28-7        128      21
16. Pacific Lutheran (Wash.)                    27-7         126      17
17. Salisbury (Md.)                                   24-8         109      12
18. Rochester (N.Y.)                                 24-4         103       23
19. Linfield (Ore.)                                      24-10        93       20
20. Eastern Connecticut State                  19-7          85       22
21. Rose-Hulman (Ind.)                             23-6         68        27
22. Texas-Tyler                                         28-10       53         24
23. Plattsburgh (N.Y.) State                      22-6         4 0       18
24. Trinity (Conn.)                                     14-6          39       13
25. Tufts (Mass.)                                       17-3         38         nr
26. Western New England (Mass.)            25-6         37         rv
27. Wis.-Stevens Point                              18-7         26         rv
28. Kean (N.J.)                                           20-9        24         19
29. Washington & Jefferson (Pa.)             19-5         23          nr
30. North Central (Ill.)                               20-5        22          nr


Also receiving votes (alphabetically): Adrian (Mich.), Alvernia (Pa.), Augustana (Ill.), Concordia-Chicago (Ill.),
FDU-Florham (N.J.), George Fox (Ore.), Hampden-Sydney (Va.), Huntingdon (Ala.), Mary Washington (Va.),
Methodist (N.C.), Penn State Behrend, Rowan (N.J.), Texas Lutheran, Webster (Mo.), Wheaton (Mass.).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 20, 2010, 11:30:19 AM
Reputation, Reputation, Reputation. Name Recognition, same reason some politicians get re-elected despite their performance. easier for the voter to punch the name of a known than to have to research that of an unknown.

The Coaches figure-(my speculation/IMO), like many of us that EConn will be there in the end in NE.

EConn is the Notre Dame of College Football they will always be ranked higher than their record or performance might indicate. Some of that, at least IMHO, is deserved/earned, some unfair to schools like KSC who for years was right on EConn's heels but seldom got the national acclaim.

Same goes for USM, Trinity and Wheaton for that matter. They have to be really bad before they are unranked. Although I have not seen either EConn, Wheaton or Trinity be 'really-bad", and that is not a pejorative comment as many teams would consider their really-bad as a successful campaign. Again, what do all of these teams have in common-recent trips to CWS.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on April 20, 2010, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 20, 2010, 11:30:19 AM
Reputation, Reputation, Reputation. Name Recognition, same reason some politicians get re-elected despite their performance. easier for the voter to punch the name of a known than to have to research that of an unknown.

The Coaches figure-(my speculation/IMO), like many of us that EConn will be there in the end in NE.

EConn is the Notre Dame of College Football they will always be ranked higher than their record or performance might indicate. Some of that, at least IMHO, is deserved/earned, some unfair to schools like KSC who for years was right on EConn's heels but seldom got the national acclaim.

Same goes for USM, Trinity and Wheaton for that matter. They have to be really bad before they are unranked. Although I have not seen either EConn, Wheaton or Trinity be 'really-bad", and that is not a pejorative comment as many teams would consider their really-bad as a successful campaign. Again, what do all of these teams have in common-recent trips to CWS.

Word

I hear you on this big time word but the only thing is what teams other than Tufts and WNEC are deserving of better ranking than the EConns and Wheatons and trinitys of the world?  None of them are having terrible years, and all 3 have shown that they are capable of being in CWS form this year. Babson and WPI dropped out of their shots with weak second halves. Curry is close but still not even on top of their own conference sure they beat wheaton 3 times...but who else???

A team like tufts however is starting to get that recognition like the team coming out of the woodwork becasue they are consistently playing good baseball...bowdoin was that team earlier but theyve had recent struggles also.

My point is the reason temas have their reputation is coaching and in the end good coaching will almost always have the advantage over poor coaching that may have more talent, because the good coaches can squeeze every bit out of every player they have to get the W.

Ya, Boy
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 20, 2010, 12:23:18 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 20, 2010, 11:30:19 AM
Reputation, Reputation, Reputation. Name Recognition, same reason some politicians get re-elected despite their performance. easier for the voter to punch the name of a known than to have to research that of an unknown.

The Coaches figure-(my speculation/IMO), like many of us that EConn will be there in the end in NE.

EConn is the Notre Dame of College Football they will always be ranked higher than their record or performance might indicate. Some of that, at least IMHO, is deserved/earned, some unfair to schools like KSC who for years was right on EConn's heels but seldom got the national acclaim.

Same goes for USM, Trinity and Wheaton for that matter. They have to be really bad before they are unranked. Although I have not seen either EConn, Wheaton or Trinity be 'really-bad", and that is not a pejorative comment as many teams would consider their really-bad as a successful campaign. Again, what do all of these teams have in common-recent trips to CWS.

Word

Word,

Well stated.  I posted on the D3 baseball top 25 poll thread earlier this season that these polls are around 50 % correct, ( ie 50% of teams ranked in 1st D3 poll appear in final D3 poll, based on historical stats I ran earlier this year and posted), so teams should not be so concerned with them.  Historic appearances in NE Regionals, CWS and National Championships buy you points on the Collegiate Baseball and D3 polls, but as stated before, keep winning  and you will show up on the polls sooner or later.  Conversely keep losing, ( ECSU is in a bit of a spell now), and sooner or later you dissapear from the polls and replaced.

Straight,  You make a good case for Curry, so if they win thier Conference, then thier tourney, PRESTO, rankings!!!

PS congrats to Wheaton for appearance on D3 poll this week!!  Maybe WNEC and Curry are not far behind!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 20, 2010, 12:47:02 PM
I cannot believe the Coaches that vote in these polls have the time to do the research necessary to place teams in their proper position. Heck, none of the posters of this site have lives and we miss tons of stuff (read the recent rant by D3BaseballFan re: Curry). Can't see a coach out in Oregon looking up Wheatons record against Curry, etc.

Reminds me of a situation that occurred last Fall. Tim Tebow - Steve Spurrier

July 24, 2009
South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier admits he mistakenly didn't vote for Tim Tebow

......Spurrier said he asked South Carolina Director of Football Operations Jamie Speronis to vote for the coaches All-SEC team, then bring the ballot to him for final approval. He admits that after seeing a couple of players' names whom he deemed worthy of first-team honors, he signed off on it without actually looking closely at the remainder of the ballot.

At least College Football & D3 baseball are similar in that they decide things on the field...(cough, cough) ;)


And so it goes....

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 20, 2010, 01:40:15 PM
Some New England teams with the lastest SOSs and National Ranking

See D3 Baseball top 25 thread for top 25 ranked teams with SOSs and national SOS rankings

Keene State is #6!!!

OTHERS OF NOTE:                                                       SOS   Rank
Tufts                                                                           .606     15
Buena Vista                                                                .587    19
Rowan                                                                        .600     18
Curry                                                                          .556     39
Bates                                                                          .630     3
Edgewood                                                                   .578     11
Rutgers-Newark                                                         .589      14
RPI                                                                         .588     16
South Maine                                                                .              579     21
Keene State                                                                              .618      6

Stevens Tech                                                             .597      8
UW Superior                                                                .597      7
Martin Luther                                                               .588    9    
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 20, 2010, 02:14:17 PM
Great find ECSUalum!

As for this week...strange things could happen  ???

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 20, 2010, 02:56:11 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 20, 2010, 02:14:17 PM
Great find ECSUalum!

As for this week...strange things could happen  ???

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)

Hobbesy et al,

If ECSU does not win the LEC Tournament and does not get Pool C bid, does NCAA NE Regional still get played in Mansfield?  I checked the NCAA Handbook, and I think they can change venue if they choose to :'(
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 20, 2010, 03:15:23 PM
I am pretty sure no matter what, the Regional is held at Mansfield.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on April 20, 2010, 03:32:39 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 20, 2010, 01:40:15 PM
Some New England teams with the lastest SOSs and National Ranking

See D3 Baseball top 25 thread for top 25 ranked teams with SOSs and national SOS rankings

Keene State is #6!!!

OTHERS OF NOTE:                                                       SOS   Rank
Tufts                                                                           .606     15
Buena Vista                                                                .587    19
Rowan                                                                        .600     18
Curry                                                                          .556     39
Bates                                                                          .630     3
Edgewood                                                                   .578     11
Rutgers-Newark                                                         .589      14
RPI                                                                         .588     16
South Maine                                                                .              579     21
Keene State                                                                              .618      6

Stevens Tech                                                             .597      8
UW Superior                                                                .597      7
Martin Luther                                                               .588    9    


ECSUalum, I just sent you an email with the Presto data in a spreadsheet.  I tried to post it on the other board without success.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 20, 2010, 03:37:23 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 20, 2010, 02:14:17 PM
Great find ECSUalum!

As for this week...strange things could happen  ???

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Hobbesy:
Good analysis in your blog. Well thought out. Always like your insight and comments. Keep it coming!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on April 20, 2010, 04:04:14 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 20, 2010, 02:56:11 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 20, 2010, 02:14:17 PM
Great find ECSUalum!

As for this week...strange things could happen  ???

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)

Hobbesy et al,

If ECSU does not win the LEC Tournament and does not get Pool C bid, does NCAA NE Regional still get played in Mansfield?  I checked the NCAA Handbook, and I think they can change venue if they choose to :'(

Last year the West Region was at Linfield College in McMinnville Oregon. Linfield did not make it into the regionals last year but still hosted the tournament with Linfield coaches and some players present working and prepping the fields.

A few years ago the West Region was scheduled to be played in Abilene TX at McMurry.
A few days before the start of the tournament it was rescheduled and move to Orange, CA @ Chapman due to a week long of heavy thunderstorms forecasted in Abilene, TX. The following year the regional was played in Abilene, TX. Not sure if that type of last  minute change would ever happen again but it has happen once in the recent past.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 20, 2010, 04:18:42 PM
Most Recent New England Poll Released today

1. Tufts (4)                       17-3 39 pts.
2. Western New England 25-6 32 pts.
2. Wheaton (1)                21-7 32 pts.
4. Eastern Connecticut    19-7 24 pts.
5. Bowdoin                      20-7 21 pts.
6. Trinity                            14-6 9 pts.
7. Rhode Island College     17-7 7 pts.
7. Worcester State           20-5-1 7 pts.
Also Receiving Votes: Wesleyan (6), WPI (2), Curry (1)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 20, 2010, 04:40:21 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 20, 2010, 04:18:42 PM
Most Recent New England Poll Released today

1. Tufts (4)                       17-3 39 pts.
2. Western New England 25-6 32 pts.
2. Wheaton (1)                21-7 32 pts.
4. Eastern Connecticut    19-7 24 pts.
5. Bowdoin                      20-7 21 pts.
6. Trinity                            14-6 9 pts.
7. Rhode Island College     17-7 7 pts.
7. Worcester State           20-5-1 7 pts.
Also Receiving Votes: Wesleyan (6), WPI (2), Curry (1)

Hmmmm,

No Endicott or St. Joe's?   --> ATTICA ATTICA ATTICA

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBearsAlum15 on April 20, 2010, 05:44:47 PM
Word--

I think that Endicott being left out of the regional rankings is ok for now. However, if they go 3-1 or even 2-2 against WNEC and Curry, they should get some serious consideration as a contender and be somewhere in the middle of the NE rankings. As for St. Joe's, they just win games. Even though the GNAC is not strong at all (other than Suffolk), they play a solid non-conference schedule and win the games they are supposed to win.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 20, 2010, 11:15:05 PM
Quote from: RSSmith on April 20, 2010, 03:32:39 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 20, 2010, 01:40:15 PM
Some New England teams with the lastest SOSs and National Ranking

See D3 Baseball top 25 thread for top 25 ranked teams with SOSs and national SOS rankings

Keene State is #6!!!

OTHERS OF NOTE:                                                       SOS   Rank
Tufts                                                                           .606     15
Buena Vista                                                                .587    19
Rowan                                                                        .600     18
Curry                                                                          .556     39
Bates                                                                          .630     3
Edgewood                                                                   .578     11
Rutgers-Newark                                                         .589      14
RPI                                                                         .588     16
South Maine                                                                .              579     21
Keene State                                                                              .618      6

Stevens Tech                                                             .597      8
UW Superior                                                                .597      7
Martin Luther                                                               .588    9    


ECSUalum, I just sent you an email with the Presto data in a spreadsheet.  I tried to post it on the other board without success.
KSSmith
Thank You Sir, will take a look tomorrow.  Just got back from Trinity @ ECSU.  ECSU 8 Trinity 1 on a 4 hitter by Will Musson, 13Ks. Looks healthy again after the hamstring pull during the JHU thumping in Chandler AZ.   Hopefully this will get the Warriors back on track
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 21, 2010, 12:05:51 AM
Another good day of baseball...

Endicott oh so close against Curry...should be an interesting tournament none the less...

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: willows478 on April 21, 2010, 12:45:40 AM
How is WPI still ranked in NE?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 21, 2010, 09:15:39 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 20, 2010, 04:04:14 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 20, 2010, 02:56:11 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 20, 2010, 02:14:17 PM
Great find ECSUalum!

As for this week...strange things could happen  ???

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)

Hobbesy et al,

If ECSU does not win the LEC Tournament and does not get Pool C bid, does NCAA NE Regional still get played in Mansfield?  I checked the NCAA Handbook, and I think they can change venue if they choose to :'(

Last year the West Region was at Linfield College in McMinnville Oregon. Linfield did not make it into the regionals last year but still hosted the tournament with Linfield coaches and some players present working and prepping the fields.

A few years ago the West Region was scheduled to be played in Abilene TX at McMurry.
A few days before the start of the tournament it was rescheduled and move to Orange, CA @ Chapman due to a week long of heavy thunderstorms forecasted in Abilene, TX. The following year the regional was played in Abilene, TX. Not sure if that type of last  minute change would ever happen again but it has happen once in the recent past.
Crash,

Thanks for the info above
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 21, 2010, 09:59:16 PM
NEWMAC tournament underway and Eastern and Wesleyan decided to play football today...

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 21, 2010, 10:22:02 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 21, 2010, 09:59:16 PM
NEWMAC tournament underway and Eastern and Wesleyan decided to play football today...

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Hobbsey:
Was it football or slow-pitch softball? :D Awful lot of that going on this spring. The oddest part is I've also seen some of the best pitching performances I've seen in a long while and then the next game ends up being a sloppily played slugfest.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 22, 2010, 08:57:32 PM
Well if this kind of play keeps up there will loads of runs scored in Willimantic this May!  When it gets nice out, the wind blows out of that place like no other!  Can you say hitting frenzy!!!

Just ask those who remember the 2007 LEC conference tournament when everything left the ballpark in that four day span!

WNEC blown away by Westfield today is quite interesting and NEWMAC sees its first upset with WPI beating Babson in game two.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 25, 2010, 03:42:04 PM
Wheaton punches the first ticket to Mansfield with a big win over Coast Guard.  Tenth title in the 12 year history of the NEWMAC. 

Will be interesting to see how Wheaton plays in the final two weeks of the season as they have alot of quality opponents coming up on their schedule. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on April 25, 2010, 05:29:49 PM
Wheaton blows through NEWMACS to earn first spot in the 2010 regionals with a rout of Coast guard in the finals...As ya, boy predicted...

I agree with Hobbsey with a big week coming for WC we could maybe see what they are really capable of as we move closer and closer to mansfield in may.

Ya, Boy
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 25, 2010, 10:03:42 PM
Castleton takes the regular season crown and will host the four-team tournament this weekend.  The winner of that will play the winner of the NEAC West division in a best-of-three series to determine the automatic bid.

One has punched their ticket and two more will be booking trips to Mansfield by weeks end as the GNAC and TCCC tournaments get underway Tuesday. 

It will be a great week of baseball!

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 26, 2010, 10:55:49 AM
So here goes - My Top 10 for New England

1. Wheaton - like Sherman they marched thru the NEWMAC
2. Tufts - took 2 of 3 vs a good Bowdoin squad
3. WNEC - we shall see what happens in The CCC
4. EConn - getting healthy, getting scary #4 with a bullet good wins over Trinity, Wesleyan, RIC over shadow the Suffolk & Plymouth St. losses
5. St. Joe's - win streak stands at 8 with a sweep of USM this year
6. Curry - we shall see what happens in The CCC
7. Endicott - we shall see what happens in The CCC
8. Williams College 10-1-1 since AZ Trip granted against ??? opponents
9. Suffolk - Loss to KSC snapped 6 game win streak including win over EConn
10. Trinity - Question is which team shows up
10. Keene State - 8-4 in last 12 games, am seeing signs of a good squad - consistency the key - big games vs USM @ Swamp 5/1
10. RIC - "could ah been a contenda" still could be.

Lurking - Southern Maine - I smell a run at the right time of year - hear me now 7 believe me later.

Who'd I miss Wesleyan - lost 4 last week, Bowdoin - similar results, WPI sorry Castleton State - perhaps

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 26, 2010, 11:32:54 AM
Looks good Word-

1. Tufts- gotta stay with the Jumbos-have won 17 of 19
2. Wheaton- NEWMAC Champs- rest of year will be true test
3. WNEC- Tough losses to Westfield and Endicott due to bad defense
4. ECSU- Responded with big win over Trin and three more from Wes and RIC
5. St. Joe's-  The Monks are one of hottest teams in New England right now
6. Curry- Have been playing better and finally getting some love
7. Bowdoin- tough week might have cost them their season
8. Williams- good pick up Word on the 10-1-1
9. Endicott- earn a share of first but will see what they are made of this week
10. Trinity- If they dont get into the NESCAC, season is over

Worcester St. blew their chance at moving up being swept by Framingham
What happened to Babson???
Suffolk on the brink
USM and Keen positioning themselves for a shot at LEC glory. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on April 26, 2010, 02:15:50 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 26, 2010, 10:55:49 AM


Lurking - Southern Maine - I smell a run at the right time of year - hear me now 7 believe me later.






Hope you right...Didn't see the UMB game but hopefully the bats are coming around...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on April 26, 2010, 02:20:25 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 26, 2010, 11:32:54 AM

What happened to Babson???




I don't know but I will see them Wednesday...:)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on April 26, 2010, 03:54:55 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 26, 2010, 11:32:54 AM
Looks good Word-

1. Tufts- gotta stay with the Jumbos-have won 17 of 19
2. Wheaton- NEWMAC Champs- rest of year will be true test
3. WNEC- Tough losses to Westfield and Endicott due to bad defense
4. ECSU- Responded with big win over Trin and three more from Wes and RIC
5. St. Joe's-  The Monks are one of hottest teams in New England right now
6. Curry- Have been playing better and finally getting some love
7. Bowdoin- tough week might have cost them their season
8. Williams- good pick up Word on the 10-1-1
9. Endicott- earn a share of first but will see what they are made of this week
10. Trinity- If they dont get into the NESCAC, season is over

Worcester St. blew their chance at moving up being swept by Framingham
What happened to Babson???
Suffolk on the brink
USM and Keen positioning themselves for a shot at LEC glory. 

Tufts has the best combination of in-region W/L and SOS in Division III.  They're certain to have the Number 1 spot in the regional ranking this week.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: fotoguy on April 26, 2010, 04:07:07 PM
Gun to your head:
Who  is in Mansfield...????
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 26, 2010, 05:18:12 PM
My prediction for the 8 teams playing in the NCAA NE Regional @ Mansfield CT:

ECSU wins LEC Tourney
Tufts wins NESCAC Tourney
WNEC wins CCC
Wheaton has won NEWMAC
Castleton wins NAC/NEAC
Westfield St wins MASCAC
St Joseph ME wins GNAC
Curry or Suffolk gets a pool C
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 26, 2010, 05:36:33 PM
Gun to head picks:

NEWMAC - Wheaton (ok you're right, everyone should get that one) ;)
NESCAC   - Tufts
LEC          - ECSU
TCCC       - WNEC
MASCAC  - Worcester State
GNAC      - St. Joe's
NAC        - Castleton
Pool C   - gun to head(guessing)- Curry? or Suffolk, or . . . . (real decisive there, huh?)
I would have thought NESCAC was the Pool C until this weekend now it looks like the NESCAC teams had beaten up on each other enough that as long as Tufts wins tourney there probably is not another NESCAC rep.  If USM gets on a roll and wins LEC tourney then Eastern probably gets Pool C. (Boy I sure hope the gun to my head isn't loaded) :P :D ;D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 26, 2010, 05:52:35 PM
Ready....go

NEWMAC- Wheaton
LEC- Eastern
NESCAC- Williams
TCCC- WNEC
MASCAC- Worcester
NAC- Castleton
GNAC- St. Joes
At Large- Tufts
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 26, 2010, 09:01:56 PM
Now that I have a moment to reflect I wanted to enter the Mansfield Discussion:

NEWMAC - Wheaton
LEC - EConn
NESCAC - Williams
TCCC- Curry
MASCAC - Westfield State
NAC - Husson
GNAC - Suffolk
At Large - WNEC

St. Joe's goes to NY Regional

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 26, 2010, 09:32:56 PM
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010
New England Divison III College Baseball Coaches Poll
(Conducted by New England College Baseball Coaches, First Place Votes in parentheses, followed by record and total points)

Division III
1. Tufts (5) 21-4 40 pts.
2. Wheaton 25-7 34 pts.
3. Western New England 28-8 26 pts.
4. Eastern Connecticut 23-8 25 pts.
5. Worcester State 24-7-1 10 pts.
6. St. Joseph's, ME 28-10 8 pts.
7. Bowdoin 21-10 7 pts.
7. Curry 25-11 7 pts.
Also Receiving Votes: Westfield State (6), Trinity (5), Bates (4), WPI (4), Williams (2), Endicott
(1), Wesleyan (1).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on April 26, 2010, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: Stump on April 26, 2010, 05:36:33 PM
Gun to head picks:

NEWMAC - Wheaton (ok you're right, everyone should get that one) ;)
NESCAC   - Tufts
LEC          - ECSU
TCCC       - WNEC
MASCAC  - Worcester State
GNAC      - St. Joe's
NAC        - Castleton
Pool C   - gun to head(guessing)- Curry? or Suffolk, or . . . . (real decisive there, huh?)
I would have thought NESCAC was the Pool C until this weekend now it looks like the NESCAC teams had beaten up on each other enough that as long as Tufts wins tourney there probably is not another NESCAC rep.  If USM gets on a roll and wins LEC tourney then Eastern probably gets Pool C. (Boy I sure hope the gun to my head isn't loaded) :P :D ;D


My ballot looks like yours, except I have Westfield State getting the Pool C bid.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on April 26, 2010, 10:26:06 PM
NEWMAC - Wheaton
LEC - Keene St.
NESCAC - Trinity
TCCC- Curry
MASCAC - Westfield State
NAC - Castleton St.
GNAC - Suffolk


At Large - ECSU
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 26, 2010, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: RSSmith on April 26, 2010, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: Stump on April 26, 2010, 05:36:33 PM
Gun to head picks:

NEWMAC - Wheaton (ok you're right, everyone should get that one) ;)
NESCAC   - Tufts
LEC          - ECSU
TCCC       - WNEC
MASCAC  - Worcester State
GNAC      - St. Joe's
NAC        - Castleton
Pool C   - gun to head(guessing)- Curry? or Suffolk, or . . . . (real decisive there, huh?)
I would have thought NESCAC was the Pool C until this weekend now it looks like the NESCAC teams had beaten up on each other enough that as long as Tufts wins tourney there probably is not another NESCAC rep.  If USM gets on a roll and wins LEC tourney then Eastern probably gets Pool C. (Boy I sure hope the gun to my head isn't loaded) :P :D ;D


My ballot looks like yours, except I have Westfield State getting the Pool C bid.
Yeah,that's another to add to the Pool C debate. Last week I was sure Pool C was coming from the NESCAC but not so sure now.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 27, 2010, 08:05:18 AM
Ya Boy is drinking the owl kool-aid as he has picked them to win the LEC my only reaction....Ya Boyyyy.  Sorry couldnt help myself.  If you are Eastern you need to hope for chalk in the NESCAC.  If the Jumbos get upset in the NESCAC tournament i would assume that they are a lock for the pool C bid as they are currently number 1 in NE and those rankings are usually pretty helpful in who the NCAA will pool C bid. Thus bursting the bubbles of the likes of Eastern, or Suffolk, or whomever.

RSSmith i dont really seeing Westfield getting the at large, they have lost to some teams that are going to hurt them, and they play in the MASCAC which does not have the reputation as a strong conference.  If Eastern wins the LEC and Tufts takes the NESCAC I HAVE NO IDEA WHO IS POOL C.  If Eastern loses the LEC tournament(i hope keene beats them in the championship) then is thier record strong enough to get the pool C over a suffolk or a Curry, or whomever, will Eastern's reputation and the fact that they are hosting the tournament  factor into the decesion. And that they would draw well and make money for the NCAA factor into this as well.  Im not saying conspiracy theory but something to consider.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: straightHeat3 on April 27, 2010, 08:46:26 AM
NEWMAC - Wheaton
LEC - ECSU
NESCAC - Tufts
TCCC- WNEC
MASCAC – Westfield St.
NAC - Castleton St.
GNAC – St. Joseph's


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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 27, 2010, 09:33:58 AM
My thoughts and a preview of the week to come..

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your thoughts??
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 27, 2010, 09:46:00 AM
Hobbesy great stuff on the blog as usual.  Like the Wheaton piece about the LEC teams, as well as your preview of the Tufts Eastern game.  Love reading your blog as it always has some very good insight
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 27, 2010, 10:13:18 AM
Thanks KSC and I agree with you about the pool C.

If Eastern doesnt win it will be interesting to see if they can get a pool c.  My junior year we didnt make the conference final and we somehow got a bid (didnt think we would)

And as for Westfield getting an at-large bid...I dont think that will ever happen.  No knock to Westfield St. but it just doesnt track for me.  A good record but a sub-par conference...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on April 27, 2010, 10:19:58 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on April 27, 2010, 08:05:18 AM
Ya Boy is drinking the owl kool-aid as he has picked them to win the LEC my only reaction....Ya Boyyyy.  Sorry couldnt help myself.  If you are Eastern you need to hope for chalk in the NESCAC.  If the Jumbos get upset in the NESCAC tournament i would assume that they are a lock for the pool C bid as they are currently number 1 in NE and those rankings are usually pretty helpful in who the NCAA will pool C bid. Thus bursting the bubbles of the likes of Eastern, or Suffolk, or whomever.

RSSmith i dont really seeing Westfield getting the at large, they have lost to some teams that are going to hurt them, and they play in the MASCAC which does not have the reputation as a strong conference.  If Eastern wins the LEC and Tufts takes the NESCAC I HAVE NO IDEA WHO IS POOL C.  If Eastern loses the LEC tournament(i hope keene beats them in the championship) then is thier record strong enough to get the pool C over a suffolk or a Curry, or whomever, will Eastern's reputation and the fact that they are hosting the tournament  factor into the decesion. And that they would draw well and make money for the NCAA factor into this as well.  Im not saying conspiracy theory but something to consider.


I'm kind of rooting for Westfield for the twenty years I lived up the road in Springfield, but also, their combined in-region winning percentage (.767, 23-7) and strength of schedule (.543) is better than anyone else in New England except Tufts and Wheaton.  There's a relatively tight grouping of New England teams, so it looks to me like any conference favorite who fails to win its tournament (except for Tufts) could be watching the regional on Gametracker.  One interesting note, if Castleton or Husson fails to win the NAC, that automatic bid could go to the New York Regional freeing up a second Pool C bid in New England.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 27, 2010, 10:36:19 AM
Good point RSSmith about 2 pool c bids.  Will anyone get shipped to the NY regional.  Could Eastern get shipped on a pool C bid, or would the NCAA save Eastern some money and have them stay home?  2 pool C bids would gurantee Eastern that bid, but i wonder if anyone will go to Cortland, maybe Castleton if they win the NAC??? Last couple of years we have seen teams get bumped out of NE for NY but could this year be the year that they all stay home in NE.   I would think that Cortland is prob closer than Mansfield for teams like Castleton
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBearsAlum15 on April 27, 2010, 10:48:04 AM
I would imagine that if ECSU makes the regionals, they will be in Mansfield no matter what. I just can't see them getting shipped out when they are hosting the NE regional. I feel that this year all of the New England teams will stay home and play in Mansfield. However KSCfan, you bring up a good point that Castleton St could get shipped out to the NY regional because of their closer proximity to Cortland. There is always the possibility of a NE team being shipped out to NY. Last year, we (WNEC) got shipped out to the NY regional at Farmingdale St. Getting shipped out to the NY regional might not be such a bad thing. We thought we had a real shot to win the regional because of the 6-team bracket. Although, this year in New England is wide open and any team that makes the regionals has a real shot to win it and get to Appleton.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: straightHeat3 on April 27, 2010, 11:59:47 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 26, 2010, 09:32:56 PM
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010
New England Divison III College Baseball Coaches Poll
(Conducted by New England College Baseball Coaches, First Place Votes in parentheses, followed by record and total points)

Division III
1. Tufts (5) 21-4 40 pts.
2. Wheaton 25-7 34 pts.
3. Western New England 28-8 26 pts.
4. Eastern Connecticut 23-8 25 pts.
5. Worcester State 24-7-1 10 pts.
6. St. Joseph's, ME 28-10 8 pts.
7. Bowdoin 21-10 7 pts.
7. Curry 25-11 7 pts.
Also Receiving Votes: Westfield State (6), Trinity (5), Bates (4), WPI (4), Williams (2), Endicott
(1), Wesleyan (1).

D3Baseball.com Rankings
Through games of April 25, 2010
# School (No. 1 votes) Rec. Pts
1 Johns Hopkins (23) 34-5 623
2 UW-Whitewater (2) 026-3 580
3 Wooster 31-7 545
4 Heidelberg 26-6 509
5 St. Thomas 21-5 500
6 Chapman 25-8 489
7 St. Scholastica 29-3 463
8 Birmingham-Southern 34-5 456
9 Pomona-Pitzer 28-8 394
10 Mississippi College 32-7 377
11 Marietta 24-8 353
12 Cortland State 27-7 341
13 Shenandoah 34-8 333
14 Trinity (Texas) 32-7 297
15 Eastern Connecticut 23-8 282
16 Pacific Lutheran 30-7 209
17 Kean 24-9 192
18 Wheaton (Mass.) 25-7 181
19 UW-Stevens Point 21-8 164
20 Texas-Tyler 30-10 110
21 Washington and Jefferson 24-6 105
22 Rose-Hulman 24-9 99
23 Salisbury 25-9 97
24 Redlands 27-8 75
25 Trinity (Conn.) 15-8 69

Dropped out: No. 21 Rochester
Others receiving votes: Tufts 66, North Central (Ill.) 49, Linfield 47, Texas Lutheran 30, Keystone 30, Adrian 14, Concordia (Ill.) 13, Augustana 8, Plattsburgh State 8, Webster 5, FDU-Florham 4, Mary Washington 3, Rowan 2, Rochester 2, Oneonta State 1


Totally agree with the NE regional rankings that came out, just hate the fact that teams seem to get ranked just by the name on their jerseys... Trinity ranked 25 when they are just receiving votes in its own region?! Im not hating on Trinity just proving a point. NE teams like Tuffs and WNEC never get any love in those rankings for how strong NE is overall.



Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 27, 2010, 12:45:50 PM
Straightheat i would agree with your point about Trinity.  I think that at 15-8 their are much better choices for teams to be in the top 25.  Tufts has the best record in NE and no love from the d3 poll??? Not taking anything away from Trinity but def some better choices avaliable
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 27, 2010, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: straightHeat3 on April 27, 2010, 11:59:47 AM

Totally agree with the NE regional rankings that came out, just hate the fact that teams seem to get ranked just by the name on their jerseys... Trinity ranked 25 when they are just receiving votes in its own region?! Im not hating on Trinity just proving a point. NE teams like Tuffs and WNEC never get any love in those rankings for how strong NE is overall.



Totally agree....Interesting that the Big Two of New England (EConn & USM)has now expanaded to the Big Four. That is teams that are traditionally rated higher nationally than perhaps deserved.....Wheaton, EConn, Trinity and USM.

What I do believe that shows is those programs are regarded highly throughout the nation, and that can only be good for New England, at least IMO. Again as I have said before, the WNECs, KSCs, St. Joe's, Tufts, etc. have to make a trip to the WCS to stamp themselves legit nationally. Wheaton was not always highly rated until they went to the WCS and performed pretty well.

Several of these NE programs remind me of the old Houston Oilers of the 1970's (God Word you really are an old fart aren't you!!?) They kept banging on the door of the Steelers and never quite got to the Super Bowl. Those Oiler teams were great teams in their own right, just not the level of the iconic (say what?)Steelers.

By the way, a story is making the rounds in certain New England circles that a coaching change is in the offing at a premiere NE school after 2011. If I read our Terms of Service correct I really can't and shouldn't go any further than that, but  :-\ keep your ears & eyes alert this fall.

TMZ-Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on April 27, 2010, 05:08:05 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on April 27, 2010, 10:36:19 AM
Good point RSSmith about 2 pool c bids.  Will anyone get shipped to the NY regional.  Could Eastern get shipped on a pool C bid, or would the NCAA save Eastern some money and have them stay home?  2 pool C bids would gurantee Eastern that bid, but i wonder if anyone will go to Cortland, maybe Castleton if they win the NAC??? Last couple of years we have seen teams get bumped out of NE for NY but could this year be the year that they all stay home in NE.   I would think that Cortland is prob closer than Mansfield for teams like Castleton

I don't see any NE team being shipped to New York (which will almost certainly be a 6-team regional).  If one of the NY teams wins the NAC, however, I could see the NCAA keeping them home.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on April 27, 2010, 06:51:10 PM
Wheaton 12--RIC 0.  ECSU 19--Tufts 5.  Somebody's got some 'splainin' to do.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 27, 2010, 07:13:10 PM
Eastern pasting Tufts might of punched thier pool C bid, espically if Tufts goes chalk in the NESCAC, Ric getting pasted by Wheaton has less of an impact i feel.  RIC has come on hard times here at the wrong time of the year, dropping 2 to Eastern and now to Wheaton shows RIC has fallen off a little bit right now, would of been a statement to win these games, but alas the evil empire beats down not-so tufts and Wheaton hammors the anchormen
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 27, 2010, 09:17:55 PM
Hold the phone on pool c bids!

WNEC upset in round 1 of the CCC tournament by Anna Maria.  This could change things if WNEC doesnt even make the championship round.

Also, Eastern pounds Tufts and even Curry was almost upset on day 1.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 28, 2010, 08:31:48 AM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 27, 2010, 09:17:55 PM
Hold the phone on pool c bids!

WNEC upset in round 1 of the CCC tournament by Anna Maria.  This could change things if WNEC doesnt even make the championship round.

Also, Eastern pounds Tufts and even Curry was almost upset on day 1.

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Still think it isn't possible that a NY team comes East as an At-Large?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on April 28, 2010, 08:34:55 AM
I agree with word...You can't just say a NY team will be sent to NE.  Give us some names on who would?  That way we can at least compare resumes for Pool C's.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 28, 2010, 09:06:56 AM
Rick-

I dont know if you are responding to me but I dont think a New York team will be sent to New England.  I think someone mentioned on here that it will probably be another six team region which I agree with.  If that is the case, I just dont see anyone from New York getting shipped here.

As far as my post was concerned I think if WNEC doesnt make it to the championship round of the CCC that will make it a real tight race for schools looking for a pool c in New England.  Especially if some teams dont win their conference tournament like ECSU or Tufts. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 28, 2010, 09:23:01 AM
God I feel like Mel Kiper, Jr. just without the hair gel, or the hair for that matter:)

Anyway, here goes, say WNEC loses in the next game or two. And the rest of the Conferences go chalk. Who is in the running for a Pool C. Sure it still could be WNEC, perhaps they have done enough. I sure hope so....But....

Guys a lot smarter than me have a better understanding of all the intricate calculations.....but from my perspective I just don't see a NE school that pops out as a Pool C. I don't have a great handle on NY but the little I do know is there seems to be a strong field there. If one or more contenders gets a TKO in the Championship Round, isn't it possible, given the state of affairs in NE this year, a NY team could come EAST?

Phew...my brain hurts......

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 28, 2010, 10:27:49 AM
Lets see-

NY Region

SUNYAC- Cortland St.
Liberty League- Rochester
Skyline- Farmingdale

Pool B- St. John Fisher

Pool C- Plattsburgh or Oneonta and if Rochester doesnt win Liberty League

Possible NAC/NEAC Winner

If top teams dont win conference tournaments in New York that will throw a big wrench in the process.

For instance, if Cortland loses SUNYAC they will be a shoe in as an at-large.  Same goes for Rochester losing Liberty League I think.

No Ithaca this year because of 12-13 record but St. John Fisher at 23-10 could take their place out of the E8. 

With that being said that gives New York about five teams that could get a bid.  And none of those teams are anywhere near New England.  In 2008, there was three out of region teams shipped to New York (Eastern, Montclair and a team from Ohio).  Last year one team was sent to New York because Clarkson upset RPI in the Liberty League and that gave the region 5 teams. 

If history holds serve then I see that happening again this year.  I dont feel New York is a very strong region at all, possibly the weakest in the nation.  Cortland should be in the World Series every year with the competitive advantage they hold.  Ithaca and Cortland are the only proven National Contenders in that region and I dont think that will change. 

Now as for a New England team heading to New York...look for a team that may win an upset in the conference tournaments that has a bad record (a la Eastern in 2006).  Other than that its up in the air.

But lets say we have some upsets...

NEWMAC- Wheaton
LEC- Keene
MASCAC- Framingham
NAC- Castleton
NESCAC- Williams
GNAC- Suffolk
TCCC- Endicott

That leaves possible pool C's to WNEC, Eastern, Tufts, Curry, Westfield St and Worcester St.

I think Tufts gets in because of their SOS.  Then it comes down to Eastern and WNEC a very tough decision.  It appears WNEC would have the edge but I think it would depend on how deep each team got in their respective tournaments.  An early exit from the CCC kills WNEC and the same would be true for Eastern.

But I think in the scenario, despite WNEC's win over Eastern, ECSU gets the bid.  That means they stay home because they wont ship a host team out and sends either Framingham, Williams or Castleton to New York.

If all conferences hold serve you would be left with WNEC, Williams, Worcester/Westfield looking for a bid

In this case I feel WNEC gets the first bid and no teams are shipped out of New England.  That means New York will take someone from the Mid-Atlantic or Ohio to fill out their bracket.

I think that made sense???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 28, 2010, 10:56:57 AM
Hobbesy:
  That kind of does make sense. Good analysis. I thought N.Y. might be stronger/deeper this year but it doesn't seem so. In past years I know N.Y. was thin and weak seems to always have teams shipped in. My best guess would be Castleton getting shipped to N.Y.(probably almost  as close as going to ECSU for them)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBearsAlum15 on April 28, 2010, 11:09:24 AM
The NY region is definitely down with usual powers RPI and Ithaca having subpar years and not making the regionals, unless RPI can somehow manage to win the LL tournament. I think it might be possible to ship a NE team that isn't expected to win their conference tournament out to NY so that a pool C bid or two can be filled in the NE regional (i.e. WNEC, Eastern, etc). It would be unfortunate if teams like WNEC, Eastern, Westfield St/Worcester St don't make the regionals, especially since the NY region is so much weaker and spots can be filled in by upset winners of NE conferences, making room for a couple quality at-large teams.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on April 28, 2010, 11:13:42 AM
Great breakdown Hobbsey...With all the crazy happenings this year chalk is not likely.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 28, 2010, 11:49:54 AM
Hobbesy,

Thank you for the great work. I did a quick study on SOS for the top NY teams....

CUNYC - Staten Island - 335

E8 - St. John's Fisher - 80

LL- Rochester - 144, Skidmore - 115

SUNYAC - Cortland 60 (also ranked #12 National Poll), Plattsburgh 12 (ranked #34 National Poll), Oneonta 39 (ranked #40 National Poll)

SKY - Farmingdale - 132


The SUNYAC is the one of most interest to me. Three Nationally Ranked teams all with SOS of 60 or better! hmmm ::)

We shall see what the future holds.

Thanks for the great discussion.

Word

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on April 28, 2010, 04:03:08 PM
Guys,

What decisions are made or should I say what is taken into consideration when a team leaves their region to play in another...I guess my question is what keeps the decision makers from placing a team like wheaton or the LEC winner or CCC winner in the NY region?

If the NY region is a bit lesser than our own here in NE then wouldnt it make sense to send a higher ranked team to NY to almost kind of make the possibilty of the CWS a bit more competitive???

just something I've thought about over the years and never really knew, it may sound rediculous but whatever.

thanks,

Ya, Boy
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 28, 2010, 05:39:16 PM
Ya Boy,

Good question.  It all comes down to record and where a team ranks.  My freshmen year we had 16 or 17 losses but won the LEC.  Our poor record and the fact USM also got an at-large big kind of made it an easy decision to send us out.  That could happen if a lower seed wins the MASCAC or the LEC for that matter.

And that sense could have been made last year with Trinity.  The Bantams were an automatic qualifier but some felt that they should have been shipped out to New York to be the #1 team in that region instead of Cortland St. (who had a down year).  That didnt happen.  Instead WNEC was sent out and three of the top six teams in the country (ecsu, usm, trinity) were all in the same region.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on April 28, 2010, 05:54:23 PM
Quote from: YA, Boy on April 28, 2010, 04:03:08 PM
Guys,

What decisions are made or should I say what is taken into consideration when a team leaves their region to play in another...I guess my question is what keeps the decision makers from placing a team like wheaton or the LEC winner or CCC winner in the NY region?

If the NY region is a bit lesser than our own here in NE then wouldnt it make sense to send a higher ranked team to NY to almost kind of make the possibilty of the CWS a bit more competitive???

just something I've thought about over the years and never really knew, it may sound rediculous but whatever.

thanks,

Ya, Boy

I think convenience is an issue.  In 2008 and 2009, Hopkins was shipped from the Mid-Atlantic to the South, due in no small part to the fact that Hopkins was the closest qualifier to the South regional site.  In both cases, the South and the Mid-Atlantic were 8-team regionals.  Historically, the NCAA hasn't shipped out the host team or the #1 seed.  There always seems to be some speculation that it's done to separate two potential CWS teams, but I haven't seen that.  My guess is that realignment occurs when the first alternate in a region is palpably better than the last team in an adjacent region.  I haven't researched that.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 28, 2010, 08:21:26 PM
Well I guess the CCC is up for grabs...Curry goes down on day 2!

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 29, 2010, 09:44:37 PM
St. Joe's and Suffolk win in the GNAC

Endicott cruises and Wentworth stays alive in the CCC

Wheaton wins 10th straight

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 29, 2010, 10:10:24 PM
Wow, the scores just keep going:
Endicott 22 Anna Maria 4 (in a winner's bracket game!)
RIC 22 Babson 6 (what has happened to Babson? injuries catch up to them?)

4 games over 20 runs
6 other games double figures (including 2 with both teams doubling up)

16 games today- 10 of 16  62.5% at least one team scoring double figures
12 of 32 teams  in double digits 37.5%
Sounds more like results expected in March rather than tourney time results but it's what we've seen all year. Is pitching really that poor or is hitting that good?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: straightHeat3 on April 30, 2010, 10:06:54 AM
Quote from: Stump on April 29, 2010, 10:10:24 PM
Wow, the scores just keep going:
Endicott 22 Anna Maria 4 (in a winner's bracket game!)
RIC 22 Babson 6 (what has happened to Babson? injuries catch up to them?)

4 games over 20 runs
6 other games double figures (including 2 with both teams doubling up)

16 games today- 10 of 16  62.5% at least one team scoring double figures
12 of 32 teams  in double digits 37.5%
Sounds more like results expected in March rather than tourney time results but it's what we've seen all year. Is pitching really that poor or is hitting that good?

Stump - enjoyed the stats.
I think its a combo of both; not sure about the other games but I know in the Endicott / Anna Maria bashing the Amcats handed out 7 walks; and also hit 3 batters in just 2 innings!! At the end of 2, Endicott was leading 7-1; with Endicott only having ONE hit. Ugly baseball if you ask me. Hopefully we will see some better pitching and closer games as we have some championship games coming up.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: 3rdgenerationnation on April 30, 2010, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: Stump on April 29, 2010, 10:10:24 PM
Wow, the scores just keep going:
Endicott 22 Anna Maria 4 (in a winner's bracket game!)
RIC 22 Babson 6 (what has happened to Babson? injuries catch up to them?)

4 games over 20 runs
6 other games double figures (including 2 with both teams doubling up)

16 games today- 10 of 16  62.5% at least one team scoring double figures
12 of 32 teams  in double digits 37.5%
Sounds more like results expected in March rather than tourney time results but it's what we've seen all year. Is pitching really that poor or is hitting that good?


Well, there is the bats.  Also, I think by this time of year hitters have started to accumulate enough at bats to really get it going at the same time pitchers are running out of gas. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 30, 2010, 10:55:58 AM
Running out of gas?  ???  Most competitive teams have been playing 7 or 8 weeks now and there are not a lot of pitchers with over 45 innings. 5 or 6 innings a week and out of gas? :(
GNAC - 8 teams averaging almost 35 games per team have only 22 pitchers with over 30 innings.

I know metal bats are an advantage for the hitters but pitchers should not be out of gas. They should be at full strength, building for playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 30, 2010, 07:21:49 PM
Quote from: Stump on April 30, 2010, 10:55:58 AM
Running out of gas?  ???  Most competitive teams have been playing 7 or 8 weeks now and there are not a lot of pitchers with over 45 innings. 5 or 6 innings a week and out of gas? :(
GNAC - 8 teams averaging almost 35 games per team have only 22 pitchers with over 30 innings.

I know metal bats are an advantage for the hitters but pitchers should not be out of gas. They should be at full strength, building for playoffs.
Stump, you raise a good point. Something else is happening here. Pitchers aren"t accumulating innings because they are getting hit, or walking batters. They're pitching out of the stretch. But really, this has been going on all year. Some ridiculous scores for Baseball
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 30, 2010, 09:10:09 PM
Four remain in TCCC and Curry is not one of them.

Wheaton stays strong against LEC

And an upset in the NAC.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 01, 2010, 08:00:05 PM
Wild day in New England


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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 02, 2010, 04:24:09 PM
WNEC punches their ticket to the Regionals with an 8-5 win over Salve.

Congrats to Coach LaBranche & the Boys. Three straight TCCC Championships.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on May 02, 2010, 06:56:57 PM
St. Joe's punches their ticket with a 5-4 victory over Suffolk. Down 4-0 battle back to tie and then pull off the win in the bottom of the 9th.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: willows478 on May 02, 2010, 09:20:48 PM
What the heck happened to Babson this year? Started out 17-5 with a bunch of quality wins (WPI twice, KSC, Suffolk, Worcester St) and a number one NE ranking then finished 3-9-1 with a bunch of terrible losses (Clark, Springfield, UMD, UMB) and an early exit in the NEWMAC capped by a smacking by USCGA. Crazy rollercoaster season for them. Anyone have an attempts at an explanation?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 02, 2010, 09:50:30 PM
A great weekend!!!

Western New England wins TCCC
St. Joseph's wins GNAC
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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 03, 2010, 10:43:55 AM
So here goes - My Top 10 for New England for the first week of May- Things are starting to clear.

1. Tufts Solid #1 should be in Regionals regardless of Tourney outcome
2. Wheaton - 12 game win-streak ends with loss to KSC, solid week otherwise
3. WNEC - 3rd Straight and Final CCC Championship - crazy loss to Anna Maria, and a miracle comeback vs. Endicott but a rebound to take title
4. Westfield St. Just keeps winning
5. EConn - Split with UMD, big win over Tufts; the crouching tiger of NE
6. St. Joe's - GNAC Titleists; win streak now stands at 11, 29-6 in New England
7. Keene State - 13-4 in last 17 games, 7 game win streak; solid wins over Wheaton, Suffolk, Husson, & USM (2)- LEC title a possibility the Hidden Dragon of NE
8. Amherst - 5-1 last week;
9. Worcester St. 4-2 last week beat who they should have; lost to whom they should not have
10.Williams College 15-2-1 since AZ Trip; win streak snapped by Westfield St

Others:  WPI, Bowdoin; Castleton State

Word

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 03, 2010, 11:13:20 AM
Word-

It appears we are both on the same page

1. Tufts- seem like an obvious pick
2. Wheaton- good schedule to close out the season
3. WNEC- TCCC Champs, can make statement against Wheaton on Tues
4. Westfield St.- have put 2 Worcester St. losses behind them
5. Eastern CT- cant quite put my finger on it...
6. St. Joe's- The Monks are rolling
7. Williams- Top seed in NESCAC West
8t. Amherst- second seed in NESCAC west
8t. Worcester- good offense but need to get it together for a MASCAC run
10. Keene St.- turnaround???
I agree Keene St. has turned it on but I just dont see them getting higher than that this week.  If they continue and win out this week and claim top spot in the LEC, put em on the board! (Yes!) around 6 or 7

Castleton also a close miss...two wins away from an automatic berth and could find themselves in the top ten next week.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 03, 2010, 11:41:12 AM
As a Williams fan I can't help myself and complain about Amherst showing up on those top tens...1. They are not the 2-seed in the NESCAC West.  Wes and Herst tied at 7-5 w/Wes qualifying b/c they won their early season series.  2. Ahead of Williams? The Ephs have won 15 of 18 up north and that includes beating Amherst 2 of 3. 

My top 10.

1. Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. WNEC
4. ECSU
5. Westfield St.
6. St. Joe's
7. Williams
8. Keene St.
9. Castleton St.
10. Worcester St.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 03, 2010, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: Hobbesy on May 03, 2010, 11:13:20 AM
10. Keene St.- turnaround???
I agree Keene St. has turned it on but I just dont see them getting higher than that this week.  If they continue and win out this week and claim top spot in the LEC, put em on the board! (Yes!) around 6 or 7


Hobbesy,

I label you an Anti-Keene-ite. Probably don't like dentists either.  :D

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 03, 2010, 11:58:28 AM
Rick-

Terrible error on my part with Amherst as the 2nd seed...got the little three confused their for a minute.  Thanks for grabbing it!

Word-

The turnaround comment was actually a positive for Keene.  Actually, they only have four more losses than Eastern Ct.  In a season like this a couple losses make it seem like a team is really struggling but Keene has come out on the other side and have a pretty good record despite what some people were saying earlier. 

I think they have a good chance at taking this home especially with their pitching finally starting to...pitch
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 03, 2010, 12:09:55 PM
Hobbesy does Keene have a pool c bid with chalk in the other touraments.  If you are Keene i feel that you need tufts to win the nescac and they need to sweep umd and make it to the LEC finals. I was looking at some of those ne top 10 lists and if tufts wins nescac,Wheaton is already in, wnec is in, st joes is in, you have Westfield, Williams, eastern and keene as a kinda best of what's left. Keene beat Westfield head to head and tied Williams. Where do theowls at large stand???  Iwould love to see them win the LEC but I curious about where the pool c is coming fro
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 03, 2010, 01:54:52 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 03, 2010, 10:43:55 AM
So here goes - My Top 10 for New England for the first week of May- Things are starting to clear.

1. Tufts Solid #1 should be in Regionals regardless of Tourney outcome
2. Wheaton - 12 game win-streak ends with loss to KSC, solid week otherwise
3. WNEC - 3rd Straight and Final CCC Championship - crazy loss to Anna Maria, and a miracle comeback vs. Endicott but a rebound to take title
4. Westfield St. Just keeps winning
5. EConn - Split with UMD, big win over Tufts; the crouching tiger of NE
6. St. Joe's - GNAC Titleists; win streak now stands at 11, 29-6 in New England
7. Keene State - 13-4 in last 17 games, 7 game win streak; solid wins over Wheaton, Suffolk, Husson, & USM (2)- LEC title a possibility the Hidden Dragon of NE
8. Amherst - 5-1 last week;
9. Worcester St. 4-2 last week beat who they should have; lost to whom they should not have
10.Williams College 15-2-1 since AZ Trip; win streak snapped by Westfield St

Others:  WPI, Bowdoin; Castleton State

Word



An additional point reagarding my placement of Keene State. Took a quick look at the latest SOS numbers.

KSC - #3
EConn #31
Trinity #32
Tufts #42
Wheaton # 52
WPI #68
WNEC - #88
Amherst # 112
Westfield St. #117 :o
Worcester st. #228
St. Joe's #320 ::) :o

Food for thought.

Word


Endicott # 98

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 03, 2010, 02:08:12 PM
keene st could be very well be playing themselves into a pool c bid

A couple weeks ago it didnt look that way but teams like Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Curry, Babson, WPI and others have slipped and have left the door open for the Owls. 

If they can make it to the LEC finals they might have a great chance at getting one.  That #3 SOS doesnt hurt either.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on May 03, 2010, 02:15:41 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 03, 2010, 01:54:52 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 03, 2010, 10:43:55 AM
So here goes - My Top 10 for New England for the first week of May- Things are starting to clear.

1. Tufts Solid #1 should be in Regionals regardless of Tourney outcome
2. Wheaton - 12 game win-streak ends with loss to KSC, solid week otherwise
3. WNEC - 3rd Straight and Final CCC Championship - crazy loss to Anna Maria, and a miracle comeback vs. Endicott but a rebound to take title
4. Westfield St. Just keeps winning
5. EConn - Split with UMD, big win over Tufts; the crouching tiger of NE
6. St. Joe's - GNAC Titleists; win streak now stands at 11, 29-6 in New England
7. Keene State - 13-4 in last 17 games, 7 game win streak; solid wins over Wheaton, Suffolk, Husson, & USM (2)- LEC title a possibility the Hidden Dragon of NE
8. Amherst - 5-1 last week;
9. Worcester St. 4-2 last week beat who they should have; lost to whom they should not have
10.Williams College 15-2-1 since AZ Trip; win streak snapped by Westfield St

Others:  WPI, Bowdoin; Castleton State

Word



An additional point reagarding my placement of Keene State. Took a quick look at the latest SOS numbers.

KSC - #3
EConn #31
Trinity #32
Tufts #42
Wheaton # 52
WPI #68
WNEC - #88
Amherst # 112
Westfield St. #117 :o
Worcester st. #228
St. Joe's #320 ::) :o

Food for thought.

Word


Endicott # 98




I think this just goes to show also that a team like St. Joes will finally actually be tested come regional time...looking over tufts schedule can anybody explain how their SOS is so high... I know they have their NESCAC schedule which has its strength but really ended up being overall mediocre with tufts being the lone power in the conference....the out of conf in region schedule consisted of Econn, UMD, brandeis, and springfield!?!? I just think that its a bit overrated of a schedule to be the overall (1) and now (42).

the out of region opponents from the beginning of the year cannot be what makes this schedule so tough..I just dont see it.

Just a thought

Ya, Boy
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 03, 2010, 11:34:53 PM
My thoughts and a look at the upcoming tournaments.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: straightHeat3 on May 04, 2010, 09:19:33 AM
New ABCA poll; (tired to keep it as neat as possible... )
May 4,2010


Rank School                                      Record   Points    Last Rank
1. (5) Johns Hopkins (Md.)                  37-3      237            2
2. (3) Wis.-Whitewater                       31-4      235            1
3. Wooster (Ohio)                               34-7      217            5
4. St. Thomas (Minn.)                           25-6     212            3
5. Chapman (Calif.)                              28-8      210           4
6. Birmingham-Southern (Ala.)             34-5      191            6
7. Shenandoah (Va.)                            34-8      190            7
8. Mississippi College                            34-7     181            9
9. Heidelberg (Ohio)                             30-6      179          12
10. Cortland (N.Y.) State                      30-7-1    162         13
11. Trinity (Texas)                                 32-7      156          15
12. St. Scholastica (Minn.)                     32-5      153          10
13. Pomona-Pitzer (Calif.)                     28-9       151          14
14. Linfield (Ore.)                                 30-10      139          19
15. Tufts (Mass.)                                   27-5       109          25
16. Eastern Connecticut State              26-9       108          20
17. Salisbury (Md.)                                26-9        91           17
18. Texas-Tyler                                     32-10       89          22
19. Marietta (Ohio)                               25-9         84           11
20. North Central (Ill.)                          28-5         72           30
21. Redlands (Calif.)                              28-9        67            8
22. Kean (N.J.)                                     28-10        58           28
23. Western New England (Mass.)        33-9         55           26
24. Pacific Lutheran (Wash.)                30-10         49           16
25. Washington & Jefferson (Pa.)           27-7        45          29
26. Plattsburgh (N.Y.) State                   30-8        41           23
27. Rowan (N.J.)                                 23-12-1      34              rv
28. Rochester (N.Y.)                               28-9         30           18
29. Webster (Mo.)                                  30-8        25              rv
30. Wheaton (Mass.)                              29-8         24             rv

Also receiving votes (alphabetically): Adrian (Mich.), Alvernia (Pa.), Augustana (Ill.), Buena Vista (Iowa), Cal
Lutheran, Concordia-Chicago (Ill.), George Fox (Ore.), Keystone (Pa.), Mary Washington (Va.), Methodist (N.C.),
St. John Fisher (N.Y.), St. Joseph's (Maine), Texas Lutheran, Trinity (Conn.), Westfield (Mass.) State, Wis.-
Stevens Point, York (Pa.).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 04, 2010, 09:38:06 AM
May 3 NEIBA Poll

1. Tufts (4) 27-5 38 pts.
2. Wheaton 29-8 31 pts.
3. Western New England (1) 33-9 29 pts.
4. Eastern Connecticut 26-9 27 pts.
5. Westfield State 28-7 15 pts.
6. St. Joseph's, ME 31-10 11 pts.
7. Williams 22-10-1 9 pts.
8. Keene State 23-13-1 7 pts.
8. Worcester State 28-9-1 7 pts.
Also Receiving Votes: Bowdoin (3), WPI (2), Endicott (1).

We were all pretty close except for the Amherst pick from me and Word...No love for Castleton St. yet.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 04, 2010, 10:47:25 AM
That abc poll is anole as far as I'm concerned. Wnec has 7 more wins than eastern with the same amount of losses and eastern is 10 spots ahead of them. Then trinity is getting votes and they didn't even make the nescac tourny, and their record should not even be considered top 30.  To me this is another case of people voting reputation rather than honest quality of a team

the new England poll a much better reflection and I hope the NCAA consults this rather than the national poll
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 04, 2010, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: straightHeat3 on May 04, 2010, 09:19:33 AM
New ABCA poll; (tired to keep it as neat as possible... )
May 4,2010


Rank School                                      Record   Points    Last Rank
1. (5) Johns Hopkins (Md.)                  37-3      237            2
2. (3) Wis.-Whitewater                       31-4      235            1
3. Wooster (Ohio)                               34-7      217            5
4. St. Thomas (Minn.)                           25-6     212            3
5. Chapman (Calif.)                              28-8      210           4
6. Birmingham-Southern (Ala.)             34-5      191            6
7. Shenandoah (Va.)                            34-8      190            7
8. Mississippi College                            34-7     181            9
9. Heidelberg (Ohio)                             30-6      179          12
10. Cortland (N.Y.) State                      30-7-1    162         13
11. Trinity (Texas)                                 32-7      156          15
12. St. Scholastica (Minn.)                     32-5      153          10
13. Pomona-Pitzer (Calif.)                     28-9       151          14
14. Linfield (Ore.)                                 30-10      139          19
15. Tufts (Mass.)                                   27-5       109          25
16. Eastern Connecticut State              26-9       108          20
17. Salisbury (Md.)                                26-9        91           17
18. Texas-Tyler                                     32-10       89          22
19. Marietta (Ohio)                               25-9         84           11
20. North Central (Ill.)                          28-5         72           30
21. Redlands (Calif.)                              28-9        67            8
22. Kean (N.J.)                                     28-10        58           28
23. Western New England (Mass.)        33-9         55           26
24. Pacific Lutheran (Wash.)                30-10         49           16
25. Washington & Jefferson (Pa.)           27-7        45          29
26. Plattsburgh (N.Y.) State                   30-8        41           23
27. Rowan (N.J.)                                 23-12-1      34              rv
28. Rochester (N.Y.)                               28-9         30           18
29. Webster (Mo.)                                  30-8        25              rv
30. Wheaton (Mass.)                              29-8         24             rv

Also receiving votes (alphabetically): Adrian (Mich.), Alvernia (Pa.), Augustana (Ill.), Buena Vista (Iowa), Cal
Lutheran, Concordia-Chicago (Ill.), George Fox (Ore.), Keystone (Pa.), Mary Washington (Va.), Methodist (N.C.),
St. John Fisher (N.Y.), St. Joseph's (Maine), Texas Lutheran, Trinity (Conn.), Westfield (Mass.) State, Wis.-
Stevens Point, York (Pa.).

My reaction to this ranking?

Go to :30 seconds in on this video and ye shall see.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twp5vOKEivA&feature=related

Word :o
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 04, 2010, 09:23:50 PM
Good win for Wheaton today over Western New England.  These two teams could meet in Mansfield in a couple weeks.

Other than that, baseball in New England is beginning to come to a close.  Its been a good season but it always seems to go by to quick.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBearsAlum15 on May 05, 2010, 10:35:51 AM
I was not really surprised that Wheaton took it to WNEC yesterday 11-4. WNEC just went through a grueling TCCC tournament in which they used all of their arms, more than they would have liked to. Wheaton is a very good ballclub and these two teams could very well see each other in the regionals. Wheaton still has games remaining against ECSU and Suffolk (2). I think if they win 2 out of 3 of those games, they can very easily be the #1 seed in the NE regional. One would think that Tufts would be the obvious choice for the #1 seed, but not so fast. Like someone has posted earlier, I don't know how Tufts has the #1 strength of schedule. The only quality non-conference opponent was ECSU, and ECSU walloped them 19-5. Overall, this year the NESCAC has been stronger than the NEWMAC, but Wheaton has played way more quality non-conference opponents.

Right now here are my top 3 seeds....

1. Wheaton 30-8
2. Tufts 28-5
3. Western New England 33-10

Teams like ECSU and Westfield St can play their way into the #3 seed
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on May 05, 2010, 03:01:42 PM
Quote from: GBearsAlum15 on May 05, 2010, 10:35:51 AM
I was not really surprised that Wheaton took it to WNEC yesterday 11-4. WNEC just went through a grueling TCCC tournament in which they used all of their arms, more than they would have liked to. Wheaton is a very good ballclub and these two teams could very well see each other in the regionals. Wheaton still has games remaining against ECSU and Suffolk (2). I think if they win 2 out of 3 of those games, they can very easily be the #1 seed in the NE regional. One would think that Tufts would be the obvious choice for the #1 seed, but not so fast. Like someone has posted earlier, I don't know how Tufts has the #1 strength of schedule. The only quality non-conference opponent was ECSU, and ECSU walloped them 19-5. Overall, this year the NESCAC has been stronger than the NEWMAC, but Wheaton has played way more quality non-conference opponents.

Right now here are my top 3 seeds....

1. Wheaton 30-8
2. Tufts 28-5
3. Western New England 33-10

Teams like ECSU and Westfield St can play their way into the #3 seed

I think there may have been a mistake in computing Tufts' earlier SOS.  The last two rankings have them under .550 rather than over .600, and the most recent ranking has them at .544, 41st.  Keene State on the other hand is at .588, 2nd in D3.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 06, 2010, 04:29:51 PM
With All-Conference Teams coming out and the long hours at work boring me, I feel obliged to put together an All-New England Team.  A couple thoughts - I agree with Hobbsey from his blog - there are a ton of qualified closers this year, but I will stick with one.  The OF class is also loaded this year, but I found it a little harder to find MIF's that really stood out.  With out further ado...

C - Barrett - Suffolk - Did not stay behind the plate all season, but numbers are more than worthy
1B - Griglun - WNEC - Very clutch hitter
2B - Walsh - UMB - Zielinski from Castleton was close behind
3B - Haugh - Wheaton - The NEWMAC POY
SS - Leresche - Tufts - Sparkplug at the top of NE #1 ranked team
OF - Wood - Trinity - 12 bombs is near the top in NE
OF - Keneborous - St. Joes (ME) - 60 RBI is the top I have seen around to go with 13 2B's
OF - Mathews - Williams - Hitting over .500
OF - Doyon - Keene St - Massive speed and power numbers
DH - Talis - UMD - Surprise year with big pop
P - Carr - Wheaton - Should have been NEWMAC Pitcher of Year
P - Moore - Curry - Workhorse for the Colonels
P - Murray - St. Joes (ME) - Just 2 BB's in 50 IP
RP - DeGoti - Tufts - 9 saves and just 1 ER for the Jumbos.
UT - Levesque - RIC - Could be the LEC POY

I'm sure I missed some... It's funny not having any Eastern Conn players on there!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 06, 2010, 09:07:36 PM
Rick,

Great job on the All-New Eng. Team; no real disagreements from me. I agree stange not to see any players from EConn, or USM for that matter.

So who is your pick for New England POY?

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on May 06, 2010, 09:26:40 PM
Wheaton over Econn today 7-3...

Big wins vs WNEC and EConn have the lyons rolling despite setback vs. Keene

Should be interesting who comes out of the LEC next week, really cant wait for both this weekends games and next week should be very exciting.

NE Regional looking LOADED right now it will be interesting to see how tuft plays in the NESCAC tourny and follow up in the region...which they should get at large if lose ???

Ya, Boy
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 06, 2010, 09:50:14 PM
Rick Vaughn....
Yes it is a little surprising not seeing and Eastern players on the list, but I guess you look at some of the the names on the list and Eastern has performed well against them and as of late the hitting hasn't been clicking.    Personally, I think a team ranked in the top 15 or so all year - HAS to have someone on the list....Castillo, Schult, Parke, Dewing offensively and Musson, Fontaine, Wojick, or Schult on the mound to mention a few. Oh well, I guess they just need to get back and win this weekend.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 06, 2010, 10:07:08 PM
Rick,

You are absolutely right about loaded in the outfield.  That seems to happen every year.  I feel its the hardest position to be named all new england.

As for no Eastern players on the first team, you can make a case for Castillo at third base over Haugh.  I believe POY stats for NEWMAC were based on conference-only.  Other than that its a tough draw.  I agree with Walsh at second but Leresche might be a reach.  Good player but there might be a better stat guy at short in New England.

Also, Sweeney from Curry might get some votes in the outfield.  As for the pitchers, good choices and I think UTIL will come down to Levesque and Moran from St. Joseph's.

And for the closers, you might see to relief pitchers named to the first team in place of one of the starters. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 06, 2010, 10:25:43 PM
Most Recent NCAA Regional Rankings Released on May 6th

New England Region    In-Region Record    Overall Record
1. Tufts                                   19-3                              27-5
2. Wheaton (Massachusetts)    27-7                      29-8
3. Westfield State                    28-7                      28-7
4. Western New England    26-8                      28-8
5. Eastern Connecticut State    22-9                      27-10
6. Keene State                    18-11-1                      23-13-1
7. Bowdoin                             20-9                      23-11
8. Curry                                    25-12                      26-13
9. WPI                                    21-10                      21-10
10. Trinity (Connecticut)            17-10                      18-11

If the season ended today and Tufts, Westfield and Eastern all won their conference it appears Keene would get first crack at an at-large.

Westfield and Worcester won MASCAC openers and Wheaton beat Eastern.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 07, 2010, 11:16:46 AM
Funny to see Trinity still showing up...I agree with the rest, especially Westfield moving all the way to #3.  They have really played well and deserve that spot.  They should be in if they can make it to the MASCAC finals.

As for the All-NE, I agree the Leresche was a stretch...I couldn't find too many SS with very impressive numbers.

My Player of the Year - Keneborous - St. Joes (ME) - Just monster numbers with RBI and XBH.
Pitcher of the Year - Carr - Wheaton - Funny seeing that he did not even this award in the NEWMAC.  Leads region in wins.
Rookie of the Year - Zielinski - Castleton - Sparkplug for the Spartans.
Coach of the Year - Arra - Westfield St. - Great year for the Owls - thought they might win the MASCAC, but they have a number of impressive out of conference wins (WNEC, Williams, Amherst, Castleton, Suffolk, WPI, and Endicott - all 20 win teams)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 07, 2010, 01:18:44 PM
2010 NCAA Division III
New England Regional Baseball Tournament
May 18-23, 2010
Participant Manual
Hosted by Eastern Connecticut State University and
The Little East Conference

http://www.littleeast.com/documents/2010/4/29/2010ncaanewenglandregionalpacket.pdf?id=1043

Useful info for Teams, Parents, Fans, others
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 07, 2010, 09:29:23 PM
Tufts and Williams win on day one and Keene clinches share of LEC regular season title. 

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 07, 2010, 10:21:11 PM
The 3 teams I would not want to meet in right now:

St. Joe's
Keene State
Williams

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Man on May 07, 2010, 10:36:54 PM
KSU 15 wins and 4 losses in last 19 games.  WHO IS HOTTER?  OM
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on May 09, 2010, 01:43:37 PM
Any news on the Tufts vs. Williams Game i Know it was close in the 8th...finall????
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: JustAFan on May 09, 2010, 02:20:11 PM
Tufts wins 14-12. Degoti pitches two and a third for the win. Bowdoin eliminates Wesleyan and now leads Williams 2-1 in the third. The winner plays Tufts in what might be a 7 inning title game given the late hour.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 09, 2010, 06:17:57 PM
Brockport St. winning the SUNYAC tournament could really change the outlook of the NCAA tournament as well as the at-large bids.  Cortland pretty much guaranteed an at-large bid in New York and that could mean Castleton would come to New England if they win NAC/NEAC as opposed to possibly being shipped to NY if Cortland had one.

This also means NE might miss out on an extra at-large
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 09, 2010, 07:22:52 PM
Great day of baseball in New England.  Not done yet as Westfield-Bridgewater still playing.  Will update once that game is complete.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2010, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on May 09, 2010, 06:17:57 PM
Brockport St. winning the SUNYAC tournament could really change the outlook of the NCAA tournament as well as the at-large bids.  Cortland pretty much guaranteed an at-large bid in New York and that could mean Castleton would come to New England if they win NAC/NEAC as opposed to possibly being shipped to NY if Cortland had one.

This also means NE might miss out on an extra at-large
Hobbesy, I enjoy your posts and your contributions to the boards.  You have a high degree of credibility for fans who try to gain info on the region.

As I look at Pool C bids, I try to see if the best team in each region will be selected in the Top 15.

After those 8 bids are given, then I try to find the next 7 best.  That means that Cortland and the LEC runner-up are probably "locks".

I wonder how many New England Pool C's will be selected.  Is the second New England Pool C bid one of the best 15 in the country?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 09, 2010, 09:26:30 PM
Ralph,

I appreciate that.

As for your line of reasoning, Westfield St. (if they dont win MASCAC) may fall within that category and gain an at-large bid. 

I wish I had more knowledge of the rest of the country (I dont want to make an uninformed guess) to say if another region may get more than one Pool C. 

But in my opinion, Westfield is the next best team in New England if they dont their conference. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2010, 09:37:45 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on May 09, 2010, 09:26:30 PM
Ralph,

I appreciate that.

As for your line of reasoning, Westfield St. (if they dont win MASCAC) may fall within that category and gain an at-large bid. 

I wish I had more knowledge of the rest of the country (I dont want to make an uninformed guess) to say if another region may get more than one Pool C. 

But in my opinion, Westfield is the next best team in New England if they dont their conference. 

I think that Westfield and the LEC runner-up make 2 solid Pool C bids.  I am very hesitant to get fans hopes up for a third Pool C bid.

As for the rest of the country, with reasonable effort, I think that you will get there in about 2-3 seasons  (2012 or 2013).  As you follow the Regionals and the Championship Series, then the names and faces will be begin to come together.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Manny13 on May 10, 2010, 11:29:05 AM
Anybody have a list of pool C teams in New England that have an argument to get in?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: fotoguy on May 10, 2010, 01:46:08 PM
all NE Team...

you missed Melendez from JWU.  hit over 420, 12 HR, 14 doubles, 45 RBI's and 43 Runds Scored. slugging over 730 and OBP near 50%.

Could easily be in the running for an All-American spot too.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 10, 2010, 02:16:57 PM
Worcester St. wraps up the MASCAC with a 3-2 win over top-seeded Westfield St.  The Lancers are dancing and the Owls are left waiting for a possible at-large bid. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on May 10, 2010, 04:02:13 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2010, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on May 09, 2010, 06:17:57 PM
Brockport St. winning the SUNYAC tournament could really change the outlook of the NCAA tournament as well as the at-large bids.  Cortland pretty much guaranteed an at-large bid in New York and that could mean Castleton would come to New England if they win NAC/NEAC as opposed to possibly being shipped to NY if Cortland had one.

This also means NE might miss out on an extra at-large
Hobbesy, I enjoy your posts and your contributions to the boards.  You have a high degree of credibility for fans who try to gain info on the region.

As I look at Pool C bids, I try to see if the best team in each region will be selected in the Top 15.

After those 8 bids are given, then I try to find the next 7 best.  That means that Cortland and the LEC runner-up are probably "locks".

I wonder how many New England Pool C's will be selected.  Is the second New England Pool C bid one of the best 15 in the country?

Hobbesy:
I just want to echo Ralph's comments. I enjoy your posts and your well thought out posts on here and your blog. Great source for NE info.  Keep it up!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 10, 2010, 07:34:47 PM
Thanks Stump.  Appreciate the kind words.

Castleton and Worcester claim bids and that leaves LEC as conference to name champion

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 11, 2010, 07:55:31 PM
Wanted to mention my buddy Reid Jackson.  Former Suffolk pitcher who is currently pitching overseas in Germany. 

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 12, 2010, 11:01:00 PM
Just some thoughts on the final push to the NCAA Tournament

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: straightHeat3 on May 14, 2010, 08:25:19 AM
Regional Rankings as of May 13th....


New England Region
1. Tufts 22-3 31-5
2. Wheaton (Mass.) 30-7 32-8
3. Western New England 31-10 33-10
4. Eastern Connecticut State 24-10 29-11
5. Keene State 20-11-1 25-13-1
6. Worcester State 30-9-1 31-9-1
7. Westfield State 30-9 30-9
8. Bowdoin 22-13 25-15
9. Curry 26-12 27-13
10. WPI 23-11 23-11
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 14, 2010, 08:33:39 AM
Quote from: straightHeat3 on May 14, 2010, 08:25:19 AM
Regional Rankings as of May 13th....


New England Region
1. Tufts 22-3 31-5
2. Wheaton (Mass.) 30-7 32-8
3. Western New England 31-10 33-10
4. Eastern Connecticut State 24-10 29-11
5. Keene State 20-11-1 25-13-1
6. Worcester State 30-9-1 31-9-1
7. Westfield State 30-9 30-9
8. Bowdoin 22-13 25-15
9. Curry 26-12 27-13
10. WPI 23-11 23-11

Good for the folks that vote in this poll, I believe they are spot on with their rankings, except for St. Joe's of Maine. Still MIA
If this foreshadows the actual NE Regionals we should have some great match-ups.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBearsAlum15 on May 14, 2010, 02:22:21 PM
Yeah I agree word, where in the world is St. Joe's in this ranking? They already qualified for the regionals, so you would assume that they would be up there at some spot. I mean you can't argue a 32-11 overall record. They don't have great wins across the board, but they did take 3 of 4 from Suffolk, two from Southern Maine (even though they are down this year), two from Husson, and one from Bowdoin. Come regional seedings they should be in the 6-8 range. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 14, 2010, 02:31:38 PM
I agree St. Joes should be in the rankings but I dont see a GNAC team being seeded higher than 6 in an eight team tournament so GBears you are right on the mark.

If Castleton stays in NE they will more than likely be the 8 seed and that means St. Joe's gets seven.  If Castleton leaves and two MASCAC's make it (Worcester, Westfield), one of them would be eight in my opinion but St. Joe's may fall into that slot. 

 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Zipball on May 14, 2010, 07:31:16 PM
With KSC going down in flames today. Good team --Bad day! Who gains the advantage for the regionals? Westfield State or Curry now in better position unless ECONN does not win LEC?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 14, 2010, 07:54:19 PM
Well if Eastern doesnt win then they will get it.  Keene should be rooting for the Warriors because that is there only way of getting in.  Curry has no chance I dont think but Westfield might be in no matter what happens. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: BobbyBeacon on May 15, 2010, 11:47:08 AM
I warned the LEC boards at the beginning of the season and just figured out how to warn the rest of New England.  Look out for the UMass Boston Beacons who are playing for their first LEC title in school history.  This team is for real (they're eying a 30-win season) and even have ECSU fans shaking in their boots.  Oh, and in terms of New England rankings, check the Beacons schedule and you'll find they've beat a handful of your current "Top 10 teams" as well as many other phonies you had ranked during/throughout the year.  AND, not to get ahead of ourselves, but not going to be losing too many seniors next year either.

Look out for Beacon Fever New England.  You have been warned.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Zipball on May 15, 2010, 07:24:13 PM
With today's LEC results the at large bid is certainly up for grabs. A great tournment with very good teams that had very exciting games. ECONN probably was a lock if they lost in the LEC Championship. But they did not make it that far opening the door for other teams. Maybe its time for other New England teams that have better records and similar SOS to experience the NCAA Regional opportunity. Reputation has carried ECONN for many years. Time for new blood? ???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2010, 07:45:21 PM
Quote from: Zipball on May 15, 2010, 07:24:13 PM
With today's LEC results the at large bid is certainly up for grabs. A great tournment with very good teams that had very exciting games. ECONN probably was a lock if they lost in the LEC Championship. But they did not make it that far opening the door for other teams. Maybe its time for other New England teams that have better records and similar SOS to experience the NCAA Regional opportunity. Reputation has carried ECONN for many years. Time for new blood? ???


I doubt it, especially   with the Regional in Mansfield...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Zipball on May 15, 2010, 08:42:10 PM
Even better maybe a Mansfield,Ct NCAA Regional would be a more level playing field if the home team who could not even get to the LEC FINAL was not playing in Conn. If they get a bid maybe they should be shipped out. They have built a great program there but maybe its time for common sense and fairness to win out.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ecfaninri on May 15, 2010, 09:18:21 PM
Zipball...
If I wasn't an Eastern Fan I would certainly agree with you about a team being able to play in a regional on their home field. However, that being said, this is still D3 baseball and the committee is really going to have a tough time sending Eastern out to another regional when they wouldn't have to house them if they kept them in Mansfield. That's if they make it. New blood? Another 30 win season. The NE Regional with 8 teams could be
1.Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. WNEC
4.St. Joseph's
5.Eastern Conn
6.UMass Boston
7.Worcester State
8.Castleton or Westfield

With the LEC running the regional, they probably would like it if they had two teams at Mansfield. Remember WNEC last year got shipped out to NY. I could see Westfield or Castelton being shipped out..
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on May 15, 2010, 10:05:05 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 15, 2010, 09:18:21 PM
Zipball...
If I wasn't an Eastern Fan I would certainly agree with you about a team being able to play in a regional on their home field. However, that being said, this is still D3 baseball and the committee is really going to have a tough time sending Eastern out to another regional when they wouldn't have to house them if they kept them in Mansfield. That's if they make it. New blood? Another 30 win season. The NE Regional with 8 teams could be
1.Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. WNEC
4.St. Joseph's
5.Eastern Conn
6.UMass Boston
7.Worcester State
8.Castleton or Westfield

With the LEC running the regional, they probably would like it if they had two teams at Mansfield. Remember WNEC last year got shipped out to NY. I could see Westfield or Castelton being shipped out..
The point is boys not that the committee will send ECSU out of the region, but they will have a very hard time picking them over Westefield or even Curry.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: RSSmith on May 16, 2010, 08:45:44 AM
The New England boards have been quiet for over ten hours (unlike the Mid-Atlantic boards which are silent for weeks at a time), and I think that may be a record.  I suppose everybody's catching their breath and looking forward to what should be an exciting regional.  Good luck, all.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: YA, Boy on May 17, 2010, 03:04:19 AM
NE gets 3!!! bids from non qualifiers!!!

Econn, Keene, and westfield....UNREAL

Keene lucks out getting a great seed in NY, with castleton in at the 8 amazing

How does econn end up and 4 and UMB 7???? ???

All i know is a one mister Robert Beacon better get his little fingers typing so he can attempt to back an assault from wheaton's #1 this time around...

Worcester and Westfield taking up the 5 and 6 slots deservingly so of both teams.


Should be a great regional and a chance for Tufts to prove itself as a real regional power despite its phantom strong schedule.


LETS GET GOIN TO MANSFIELD EVERYBODY!!!!



Ya, Boy
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: FBFBCH on May 17, 2010, 03:13:35 AM
Umass Boston deserves better than 7 seed.

Econn is just lucky with the 4 seed. They lost to Plymouth State = inexcusable.

Tufts won't make the championship round. Thats a  Lock

Whose taking this regional???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 17, 2010, 06:24:18 AM
LEC gets three teams as Keene heads off to NY.  That might be good for them, some new blood might do them well.  I was surprised that Umass Boston got the 7 seed and wheaton in the first round.   This regional is stacked wth the top couple of teams.

I am taking Wheaton to take this one.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on May 17, 2010, 08:18:22 AM
Are we really suprised with UMB at #7? I mean give them credit for surviving the LEC tournament but this is the regionals after all and (no disrespect to UMB) their first trip. Eastern had an overall better record (barely lol) and was hosting (we all knew they would get in anyway!).

I think that is the right seed for UMB, the other 6 above them are pretty good teams!

In saying that I wouldn't be suprised to see UMB advance pretty deep into this tournament. They played very well in the LEC tournament and are hot at the right time. Should be some very exciting baseball this week as N.E is very well represented in the tournament. Would be great to see 2 N.E teams in the world series!!!!

Hosted by Eastern Connecticut State University, Mansfield, Connecticut
1. Tufts (31-5)
2. Wheaton (Massachusetts) 32-8)
3. Western New England (33-10)
4. Eastern Connecticut State (30-13)
5. Worcester State (31-19-1)
6. Westfield State (30-9)
7. Massachusetts-Boston (28-15)
8. St. Joseph's (Maine) (32-11)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on May 17, 2010, 09:30:04 AM
All of the capsules are finished...feel free to share your thoughts or point out anything I have missed.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: BobbyBeacon on May 21, 2010, 03:33:43 PM
Surprised yet?  I sure hope you're right FBFBCH, we'll find out later tonight!!!  GO BEACONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 21, 2010, 08:30:55 PM
Update from the NY Regional:

Castleton St. batting in the bottom of the 9th down 9-6. 1st batter reaches on an error by the shortstop, followed by 2 straight base hits to plate 1 run and put runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs.

Next batter hits a deep fly ball to left for the 1st out as the runners both move up to 2nd and 3rd. Next batter fouls out to the catcher and the following batter hits a ground ball to the shortstop for what should have been the final out but he bobbles the ball and the runner is safe at 1st and another run scores. Runners now at the corners and the runner on 1st steals 2nd. Base hit could win the game but the batter has 2 strikes on him and on the next pitch hits a ball to the shortstop who throws the ball over the 1st baseman's head and the tying and winning run both score. Final 10-9 Castleton St.


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on May 26, 2010, 06:54:27 PM
Congrats to D3baseball.com All-Americans from New England:

1st Team - P - Chris DeGoti - Tufts

3rd Team - 2B - Ryan Walsh - UMass-Boston
               OF - Todd Keneborus - St. Joe's (ME)
               OF - Tim Sweeney - Curry
               P - Nolan Carr - Wheaton
               P - Jon Shepard - Wheaton

Hon Men - C - Zak Talis - UMass-Dartmouth
              OF - Bobby Doyon - Keene St.
              OF - Al Mathews - Williams
              P - Marc Doyle - Suffolk
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: D O.C. on May 28, 2010, 07:32:22 PM
Just a drive-by to say, "Hi!"
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: fotoguy on May 30, 2010, 07:35:20 AM
How in the world did they leave off Jon Melendez from JWU?  >:( ??? ???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on June 06, 2010, 02:01:57 PM
For those who may not have seen, Final ABCA/D3baseball polls:

http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll.html

http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2010/week-14
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on June 06, 2010, 03:51:01 PM
A couple New England D3'ers getting a chance to play in the Cape League

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/d3ers-get-a-chance-in-cape-league/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/d3ers-get-a-chance-in-cape-league/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on June 07, 2010, 02:30:57 PM
Hobbesy - Saw you are interning in the CCBL!  My favorite ball around!  Good to see some DIII'ers on rosters.  Have a great summer.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on June 10, 2010, 02:16:17 PM
http://athletics.trincoll.edu/sports/bsb/2009-10/news/Baseball_90910

Only DIII NE Player drafted...And the fifth Bantam to play minor league ball in the last three years!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on July 15, 2010, 05:30:52 PM
Cross posted from LEC Board

Noticed that Cory Voght, KSC reliever has been selected for the NECBL All Star team. Great job Cory. Shows that D lll players can play in that league if given a chance. Too bad the franchises are mostly locked into D l schools and have to play freshman bench sitters ahead of better D ll and D lll players.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on August 01, 2010, 07:56:06 PM
Quote from: kscer on July 15, 2010, 05:30:52 PM
Cross posted from LEC Board

Noticed that Cory Voght, KSC reliever has been selected for the NECBL All Star team. Great job Cory. Shows that D lll players can play in that league if given a chance. Too bad the franchises are mostly locked into D l schools and have to play freshman bench sitters ahead of better D ll and D lll players.

Unless their name starts with a b and ends with a t. Eh?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on August 06, 2010, 05:34:26 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on August 01, 2010, 07:56:06 PM
Quote from: kscer on July 15, 2010, 05:30:52 PM
Cross posted from LEC Board

Noticed that Cory Voght, KSC reliever has been selected for the NECBL All Star team. Great job Cory. Shows that D lll players can play in that league if given a chance. Too bad the franchises are mostly locked into D l schools and have to play freshman bench sitters ahead of better D ll and D lll players.

Unless their name starts with a b and ends with a t. Eh?
Don't ya know. Wonder how this will play out next year. Seems to me that fella proved his ability to hit, but can the egos handle it? to be continued...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on August 26, 2010, 10:25:25 AM
Latest on Ryan Di Pietro, ( ex ECSU), with Shreveport-Bossier Captains, (American Association Independent League)

http://www.pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=62388&seasonid=313
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on December 03, 2010, 02:24:58 PM
Nice article in the Worcester paper (still think it should be spelled Wooster if these heren' New Englanders are goin' pro-nounce it Woorsta)

Anyway about the article seems Worcester State is getting their own field. Good for these guys. I always like it when schools/programs are able to upgrade their facilities. Should help recruiting as well.

Now we need to root for the UMESS Boston boys to get their own field.

http://www.telegram.com/article/20101203/NEWS/12030671

PS THE Ohio State beat Michigan AGAIN  this year......

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on December 06, 2010, 10:48:55 AM
Word-

Where would Umass Boston locate Beaconville.  I have been to the college myself and there are not a lot of places for that field to go.  They have a high school right next door and i guess they could co-use the field as most high schools dont play on the weekends, but what about practices, and what not.  If they dont use that where are they going to put a field?  Umass Boston has to be about one of the only teams i kow that does not have its own field to play on in the LEC, after a world series berth shouldnt the school find them a field?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on December 07, 2010, 03:46:32 PM
KSCFan- One would think that any college fielding a collegiate baseball team (regardless of division) would provide a field for their use! I am guess that money and facility management would be the biggest concerns for a college to build/buy a baseball field?!? Anybody else have any insight? JCONN?

I guess I have always been fortunate enough to have facilities like KSC.

No offense to the beacons but I think the name stays as UMESS for as long as they dont have a field!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on December 08, 2010, 07:31:51 AM
Having played in and watched the LEC since 2003 I guess that I am spoiled when it comes to the fields of the LEC.  Two the nicest fields in new england (USM and ECSU) are located in the LEC.  Keene State, Umass Dartmouth both are very nice fields as well.  The only real bad field in the LEC is Western CT.  It seems that the schools put a good amount of attention, money , and pride in the fields.  Umass Boston you are a World Series partcipant get on a field. 

Does Trinity still play right next to the football field.  For a national champion that seems like a modern marvel.  How can a school that is not short of money, (look at the football field right next to the baseball field)  have such a terrible field.  Its randomly put in the middle of a field. 

it seems that the public schools of NE which have less money than the private ones have the nicer fields in NE on the whole.

Top Public-  Eastern CT, USM, Keene State, Westfield State,
Top Private- St Joes of Maine, Babson, ...?

Worst Public- Western CT, Fitchburg State,
Worst Private- Becker, Trinity if they still play on campus, Salve Regina on campus not newport gulls stadium,

Did i miss any and why is it like this
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on December 08, 2010, 03:05:44 PM
Trinity decribes their athletic facilities on the Trinity web site:

"The College also has a wide range of outdoor facilities, including Robin L. Sheppard Field, a state-of-the-art artificial turf field hockey and lacrosse field with lights, along with two Class A soccer/lacrosse fields, softball and baseball diamonds, eight tennis courts, and four recently renovated intramural fields.  Additionally, Trinity makes use of a number of other high-quality athletic facilities throughout the Greater Hartford area".

You can use Bing maps, (Birds Eye Views), to view most college sports facilities and examine the facilities from 4 directions.

Certainly TC has first class football and LAX/Field Hockey facilities.  I guess the TC athletic department/Alumni do not think spending the cash from Student fees or the Endowment to build a better baseball facility is justified :(.  Maybe Coach Decker will push for one in the future 8-).  It would make a class baseball program even classier!!

Coach Holowaty is waiting for Coach Eygabroat and UMass Boston Beacons to initiate a hostile take over for purchase of the Eastern Baseball Stadium.
They played "pretty good" in Mansfield last year ;D

Personally, I think WCSU tends to divert most of its resources to the basketball team/facility, sadly at the expense of the baseball program.

As a matter of fact even Division I CCSU's facility was sort of average until last year when they installed some decent stands.  D-II SCSU has a nice field



Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on December 09, 2010, 09:59:28 AM
Alum-

SSCU field is i feel is a lot like Southern Maine.  Stands kind up up behind home plate with the big open dugouts.  I played at CCSU my last year of legion against NB but that was in 2002 , and I have not seen the field since.  On a whole the public college's have nice fields.  Does Wesleyan in Middletown play at Palmer?  OR do they have a field on Campus.  Palmer is obviously a nice field and seems like a great place to play.  The Middletown Giants played there a couple of years there in the NECBL before moving to somewhere else.  You would think that a school like Trinity would throw some money into that field and at least close it off, fences, real dugouts and the whole nine yards. With a new field and a national championship they could become a serious recruiting threat to Eastern.  Might attract some of those DI or D2 transfers that come in from other schools
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on December 09, 2010, 12:11:04 PM
KSCFan,

I believe Trinity does have fences , a score board, but thats about it.  I watched the Wesleyan/ECSU 40 run game in Middletown last year  and I have to say the field is not something really to be proud about.  I sits in between some nice modern and historic buildings, as a matter of fact soo close to one behind the backstop that they must budget extra $$$ for broken windows.  Just benches on both baselines, many ECSU players have to stand or sit on the ground.  They have a fence and a hill side for fans on one side, and a few aluminum bleachers on the other.

Again, I think the NESCACs, ("little ivys"), would rather spend for academic programs rather than athletics.  Cant fault them for that as they have to maintain their acedemic reputations, but, then again look at Yale Field or even Harvard's O'Donnell Field,... its not too bad.

UConn has improved  J.O. Christian Field over the last couple years a la CCSU, however,Eastern Baseball Statium still is IMHO one of the best on campus facilities in Connecticut and the Northeast, (ie Montclair State U. plays at Yogi Berra Stadium 8-) ).  

MSU Baseball web site states re Yogi Bera Park:

Yogi
Berra Stadium is one of the premier college athletic facilities at any level in the country. The stadium which was built as part of a public/private partnership with Floyd Hall Enterprises and New Jersey's Educational Facilities Authority, is also the home to the Independent New Jersey Jackals, the 2001 and 2002 Northern League champions.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on December 09, 2010, 01:01:50 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on December 08, 2010, 07:31:51 AM
Having played in and watched the LEC since 2003 I guess that I am spoiled when it comes to the fields of the LEC.  Two the nicest fields in new england (USM and ECSU) are located in the LEC.  Keene State, Umass Dartmouth both are very nice fields as well.  The only real bad field in the LEC is Western CT.  It seems that the schools put a good amount of attention, money , and pride in the fields.  Umass Boston you are a World Series partcipant get on a field. 

Does Trinity still play right next to the football field.  For a national champion that seems like a modern marvel.  How can a school that is not short of money, (look at the football field right next to the baseball field)  have such a terrible field.  Its randomly put in the middle of a field. 

it seems that the public schools of NE which have less money than the private ones have the nicer fields in NE on the whole.

Top Public-  Eastern CT, USM, Keene State, Westfield State,
Top Private- St Joes of Maine, Babson, ...?

Worst Public- Western CT, Fitchburg State,
Worst Private- Becker, Trinity if they still play on campus, Salve Regina on campus not newport gulls stadium,

Did i miss any and why is it like this


Gosh, I'd have to place the WNEC baseball Complex as one of the top fields in D-III NE. Although there is no electricity due to the fact it sits on a rock ledge. Otherwise, The Wesleyan field as I remember was pretty nice.

Anna Maria is a little like a Babe Ruth filed in both lay-out and dugouts. Curry College has the worst sight lines and access to a field, IMO, New England College has shal I say an interesting filed as does Colby-Sawyer.

We know it is winter in the Northeast when the New England D-III baseball wennies are discussing fields and playing surfaces, don't believe me? just look back at past postings, dates and subject matter.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on December 09, 2010, 01:14:34 PM
Alum you must be talking about a field on campus then.  Palmer field is the one downtown by Home Depot and 5 guys burgers and fries.  It is an actual stadium that is not as good as Eastern but still pretty good.  I have never seen or played at montclair but now i have a new field to travel to and check out

Word Curry is terrible, the field is on a slant along with no where for you as a spectator to sit.  WNEC is much nicer than springfield so i will give the battle of western mass to them.  I completely forgot about NEC, Colby Sawyer isnt that bad just sitting on top of a mountain.  I would take Colby Sawyer over Western CT for sure.  Oh what else are we going to talk about in the winter time?  Give us a new topic and im game. 

One thing we could throw out is the change in the bats from BESR cert to BBcore which i guess takes some of the pop out of the bats.  Also i had heard that the two pieces like the Easton Stealth, Vexxum from Denmarini and bats like that are going to be outlawed as well.  Is it time for colleges to switch to wood.  Tough hitting in march with wood, but MLB does it no problem.  Give me wood in college baseball
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on December 09, 2010, 01:15:21 PM
"The Wesleyan field as I remember was pretty nice"

Hello Word,  Nice to see you have posted your comments, however the above comment baffles me ???

Must have been you were remembering Virginia, Ohio or NC Wesleyan's baseball facility or some Wesleyan you discovered on one of your VW bus trips across the country back in the late 60's  ;)

Yes, I am referring to Weslyan U campus baseball field on which ECSU played last April.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on December 09, 2010, 01:54:10 PM
Wesleyan's field is a great setting, but a terrible surface and no dugouts.  You can get stoned sitting on the bench b/c all the hippies smoke pot on the hill down the left field line!  Williams has the nicest field in the NESCAC, but the field is all the way at the end of campus.  Trinity and Amherst have similar fields in terms of a great on campus setting, but Amherst's surface is MUCH nicer. 

Babson had the nicest facilities I played at in college.  Great setting, dugouts, and surface.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on December 09, 2010, 08:16:33 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on December 09, 2010, 01:15:21 PM
"The Wesleyan field as I remember was pretty nice"

Hello Word,  Nice to see you have posted your comments, however the above comment baffles me ???

Must have been you were remembering Virginia, Ohio or NC Wesleyan's baseball facility or some Wesleyan you discovered on one of your VW bus trips across the country back in the late 60's  ;)

Yes, I am referring to Weslyan U campus baseball field on which ECSU played last April.

Yea, you know, I have been to sooo dang many baseball fields in New England, Ohio, Fla, NY ...between my son playing, me coaching, my daughter played rugby in college, her boyfriend played Lax, gosh I sometimes mix things up...that and another year older....that BIG 60 looms closer everyday. So if you are baffled by my comments imagine how baffled I am by them.


Just call me the Mr. McGoo of ball fields.


McGoo you've done it again....

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on December 09, 2010, 11:21:43 PM
Now there is the Word we all know and love!!!! ;D ;D ;D

I guess Wesleyan played at Palmer field at some point?  Just saw the one game last year on campus.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on December 10, 2010, 01:01:30 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on December 09, 2010, 11:21:43 PM
Now there is the Word we all know and love!!!! ;D ;D ;D

I guess Wesleyan played at Palmer field at some point?  Just saw the one game last year on campus.

Gee thanks Alum, I think....so while we're waiting for it to warm-up, it was 2 degrees at the house this morning....I'll bore you with a question and a list, I luv lists....What is the most bizarre place and circumstances you ever played/coached/watched a game from....

My List:

1) It was the 10 year NH Bambino State Championship, being held in early August 1994, in of all places the convenient location of Berlin, NH, might as well been Berlin Germany! The field was right next door to the Berlin Paper & Pulp Mill; ya'll ever been to a city that has a paper mill? One word describes it SULFUR (Rotten Eggs stench)! our first game of the Tourney was at 8am and the Temp was around 80, the kids stood in the field with their gloves over their nose and mouth. I think there are still pictures of my defense I called it the Stinky Defense but mainly because we gave up like 10 runs in the first 2 innings.

2) My other oddity was in the late 60's I was a football player for Westerville High in Ohio. We went to Danville Ohio to play a preseason game...at least we thought it was a preseason game. You know big football power house schedules smaller school to work out the kinks type of thing? Danville's entire town shows up and they are yelling at us as the bus drives into the field. They point us to our "locker room". It is a corn field next to the football field. As we are changing the local Farm Mafia are lobbing cow pies at us thru the rows of corn. Heck they even let a couple of pigs loose that charged us. When the movie deliverance came out a couple years later the scene in there that, well you know the scene, it reminded me of that day, We ended up losing to this smaller school 42-6. but who is keeping score.
Needless to say we undressed in the bus as the friendly locals threw bottles of urine into the bus windows and called us suburban trash and other nasty names.

I am scarred to this day.

Love to hear your stories on this cold day.



Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: 3rdgenerationnation on December 10, 2010, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on December 09, 2010, 01:54:10 PM
Babson had the nicest facilities I played at in college.  Great setting, dugouts, and surface.

4thGen is a SS at Babson and he got spoiled practicing and playing at home on the great surface they have.  Three or four times last season road series had to be moved to Babson because the other team's field was still under water and Govoni Field was playable. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on December 11, 2010, 06:50:00 PM
Word,

I am afraid I will not be able to come up with anything even close to those stories, however, I worked in the industrial chemical industry for many years including marketing to the Paper Industry for 15, and visited many a Paper/Pulp mill.  Basically its the pulping part of the paper making process that makes the stink, ( which by the way, chemically, is Sulfur Dioxide), and other nasty sulfur containing gaseous materials.  I certainly can sympathize, and isn't the Berlin NH mill a nice one :o

Interesting: pulp mill poop and cow/pig poops.  Maybe Ohio State has new strategy when Michigan comes to Ohio :D
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on December 14, 2010, 03:58:22 PM
I can throw out a couple of good stories...


1. Summer of 96: Babe Ruth Senior Northeast Championship (s) or something like  that: We had just won the Maine state title and beat RI, NH, VT and if we win the next game we are going to the championship game: but what stood in our way was Middlesex county....They had beaten teams before us by scores of like 13-1 24-0 and so on...I get to pitch,  oh fun!!: but to my surprise we are winning 5-4 in the bottom of the 7th...I get two outs and then I plunk a guy, oh well I had owed the next hitter all day...I got him to hit a fly ball to down the left field line, I pump my glove thinking this game is over: the left fielder (who later played two years of D 1 ball) steps in a rutt down the left field line, ball bounces off his glove and it's an inside the park home run to win it...The field: Harwich Cape Cod...My own field of misery....


I have an awesome hockey story I will add later about Castelton State...I have never seen anything like this place... 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on December 15, 2010, 08:19:17 AM
Here is a good one...Word you may have heard this through the grapevine!

Summer of 2003 I was playing for American Legion Post 4 (Keene,NH) and we were in the Fiori Tournament (I believe). A now former USM baseball player (whom I played high school and legion with) had told us a story about this infamous "Screamer" pitch. We were playing the U16 Connecticut Bombers team and sometime during the game we thought it would be funny to try out this "Screamer" lol.

I was pitching that day and will never forget what unfolded. There was a timeout in the middle of an inning and we met at the mound. I was basically dared to throw the "Screamer" (I say basically becuase I don't really remember if I thought it was a good or bad idea).

I had 2 strikes on the hitter, 2 outs. The next pitch I began my wind up and right as I was about to throw the ball I screamed as loud as I could (imagine a 12 yr old girl being scared out of her mind!!) Anyway, the hitter just froze in the batters box, he flinched when I screamed but did not move an inch after that! The pitch went right down the middle for strike 3...and before anybody realized what happened we were all off the field and in the dugout.

Boy did I get a tongue lashing from my coach afterwards and we all enjoyed some laughs but where the story really gets interesting is a couple of years later. I was a sophmore in college and one of our shortstops (from CT of course) had several friends from home up one night. Come to find out that one of the friends was the kid that had froze in the batters box 4 years ago from the screamer!!! You cannot make this stuff up!! lol
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on December 15, 2010, 12:43:17 PM
I only have two little stories nothing like LEC's story

The first one is that i was playing in a wood bat tourny when i was 16 in the fall just outside philly pa.  Our team was hitting and i was sitting in the dugout that was below ground.  The bench had you about eye level with the field and there was no fence in front of the dugouts as they where open.  One of the kids on my team swung the bat and it slipped out of his hands.  I was catching and i had on my chest and shins.  Well the bat comes flying into our dugout and drills me in the chest protector.  The bat bounces off me and hammers our shortstop in the wrist.  This busted his wrist up pretty good and he had to come out of the game.  I was ok cause of my chest that happened to still be on becuase i wasnt up for a while.

Second story i was in New Britian Ct playing legion when i was 18.  We were playing at Beehive and our pitcher threw a curve ball in the dirt.  I went to block it and woke up flat on my back with a pounding head ache.  I had no idea what had happened and what was going on.  I looked up at my legion coach and said what happened.  " Well the hitter had swung at the curveball in the dirt and i had come forward to block the ball and the lefty had a ken griffey swing with a huge backswing that snapped down.  When i came forward the kid swung missed and his back swing drilled me on the top of the head and knocked me out cold for about 2 minutes.  The players said it looked like someone shot me gangland style as i was on my knees and just fell face forward in the dirt
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on December 16, 2010, 08:42:50 PM
Quote from: LEC Fan on December 15, 2010, 08:19:17 AM
Here is a good one...Word you may have heard this through the grapevine!

Summer of 2003 I was playing for American Legion Post 4 (Keene,NH) and we were in the Fiori Tournament (I believe). A now former USM baseball player (whom I played high school and legion with) had told us a story about this infamous "Screamer" pitch. We were playing the U16 Connecticut Bombers team and sometime during the game we thought it would be funny to try out this "Screamer" lol.

I was pitching that day and will never forget what unfolded. There was a timeout in the middle of an inning and we met at the mound. I was basically dared to throw the "Screamer" (I say basically becuase I don't really remember if I thought it was a good or bad idea).

I had 2 strikes on the hitter, 2 outs. The next pitch I began my wind up and right as I was about to throw the ball I screamed as loud as I could (imagine a 12 yr old girl being scared out of her mind!!) Anyway, the hitter just froze in the batters box, he flinched when I screamed but did not move an inch after that! The pitch went right down the middle for strike 3...and before anybody realized what happened we were all off the field and in the dugout.

Boy did I get a tongue lashing from my coach afterwards and we all enjoyed some laughs but where the story really gets interesting is a couple of years later. I was a sophmore in college and one of our shortstops (from CT of course) had several friends from home up one night. Come to find out that one of the friends was the kid that had froze in the batters box 4 years ago from the screamer!!! You cannot make this stuff up!! lol

LEC, I was at that game and witnessed it first hand, err, ear...I remember the look on the batter's face and the tongue lashing you got in the dugout...Funny stuff..Great stories guys...keep them coming..Thanks, Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on December 20, 2010, 09:11:51 AM
So here is another story from the Word annals (not anal mind you!).

So I am coaching a summer college league team (CNEBA) a few years back. It is a Saturday afternoon game in mid-July. The temperature is about 95. We are playing on the Swamp at KSC. Our pitcher is a large young man. Kind of built like Vince Wolfork. He was a size that we did not have pants to fit him so we had to have him wear white sweat pants to the mound. The team we are playing is from Worcester Mass. Had several D-I kids from HC, plus a mix of WPI, Worcester St. etc. So all in all a good team.

So they see our pitcher head to the mound with his large frame and ill-fitting white sweat pants and a jersey that just would  NOT stay tucked-in. They are thinking what is this a joke!? I can hear the bench jockeying from the other dugout. Typical trash talking and laughing. Our pitcher warms-up and goes to face the first batter. He throws the first pitch takes a step back and trips over the mound, actually I think his cleat stuck in the bottom of the leg of his sweat pants and BAM down he goes on his backside, legs kicking up in the air. Now it being a really hot day and all, the young man's sweatpants were doing what they were designed to do, make him sweat, so the dirt is caked on him making a pretty messy sight. So that is pitch number 1. Their dugout is hooting and hollering and laughing like crazy. I am thinking Oh God what is next.

So what is next is that this kid goes on to pitch a complete game 2 hit shutout and we win the game. It was the 4th inning when the other team finally woke up to the fact that this kid was really good and that looks are deceiving. Every inning he came off the mound I thought it would be his last. But he persevered and fought through the heat and pitched his butt off.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on December 20, 2010, 01:17:30 PM
Word-

I know you know this one.  When i was playing in college we were playing a sunday game against Castleton state.  Well the pitcher was warming up in the first inning and he is done warming up and tells me to throw the ball down to second.  So the pitch comes in i catch it and throw it down to second.  Well the mound in the swamp is huge, and our pitcher was like 6'6" huge as well.  Well he turned his back and never got off the mound.  The ball goes down to second base, and never gets there as the ball drills our pitcher dead square in the back of the head.  Down he goes for like 20 minutes.  I have just killed our starter, and we havent even played an inning.  Pitcher stands up yells at me, tells everyone he is fine, and they decided to let him pitch...... he threw a CG 3 hitter and we won easily. 

Is this the same pitcher as described below, if that is the case that is hilarous
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on December 21, 2010, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on December 20, 2010, 01:17:30 PM
Word-

I know you know this one.  When i was playing in college we were playing a sunday game against Castleton state.  Well the pitcher was warming up in the first inning and he is done warming up and tells me to throw the ball down to second.  So the pitch comes in i catch it and throw it down to second.  Well the mound in the swamp is huge, and our pitcher was like 6'6" huge as well.  Well he turned his back and never got off the mound.  The ball goes down to second base, and never gets there as the ball drills our pitcher dead square in the back of the head.  Down he goes for like 20 minutes.  I have just killed our starter, and we havent even played an inning.  Pitcher stands up yells at me, tells everyone he is fine, and they decided to let him pitch...... he threw a CG 3 hitter and we won easily. 

Is this the same pitcher as described below, if that is the case that is hilarous


KSCFan,

I witnessed this act of violence first hand and was actually looking right at the pitcher when your throw smacked him "up side da head". It hit him more in the temple area as he was landscaping the mound when he got drilled. I let out a Oh God the pitcher just got killed remark and for a moment thought I had witnessed a bean-a-cide. (Is there a witness protection program for that?)

Yes and he did go onto to pitch what I'd call the second best game of his life...the best being the one against USM in the playoffs.

But no the story above is not about this player.....Mabye I can think up some other Meatty stories......


As Always Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on December 21, 2010, 12:58:37 PM
The Great Dan Meattey

Word I remember that game, and Dan for that matter. Did he end up playing at AIC?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on December 21, 2010, 09:40:09 PM
Quote from: LEC Fan on December 21, 2010, 12:58:37 PM
The Great Dan Meattey

Word I remember that game, and Dan for that matter. Did he end up playing at AIC?

Big Cat as we called him. Yes he did pitch for AIC. A very underrated player. Nice guy too. I enjoyed coaching him. He was a competitor.

Speaking of Big Cats, another story on a cold New England night....so I'm in the Akron Armory and it is 1973 or 74. We are attending the Saturday night wrestling show. Headlining is Bobo Brazil vs Ernie The Big Cat Ladd. Former defensive lineman for the Kansas City Chiefs....Ladd is a legit 6'9" and goes 325+ (he and Buck Buchannon who was 6'8" & 325+ were paired on the D-Line in the late 60's into the early 70's...huge athletic men and this was 40 years ago!)

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on January 11, 2011, 04:36:13 PM
From St. Joe's website:

"Since 2005, only two New England programs have posted more wins (190) and just three have notched a better winning percentage (.714). St. Joe's is one of three teams in the region to have made four New England Regional appearances in the last five seasons and one of four to notch five 30-win seasons over the last six years."

From my research I found Wheaton (207) and Eastern CT (206) to be the two with more wins than the Monks.  I'm going out on a limb and saying the four 30-win teams are St. Joe's, ECSU, Wheaton but I can't figure out the final one...

Pretty impressive statement for the Monks
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Niner on January 11, 2011, 07:39:08 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on January 11, 2011, 04:36:13 PM
From St. Joe's website:

"Since 2005, only two New England programs have posted more wins (190) and just three have notched a better winning percentage (.714). St. Joe's is one of three teams in the region to have made four New England Regional appearances in the last five seasons and one of four to notch five 30-win seasons over the last six years."

From my research I found Wheaton (207) and Eastern CT (206) to be the two with more wins than the Monks.  I'm going out on a limb and saying the four 30-win teams are St. Joe's, ECSU, Wheaton but I can't figure out the final one...

Pretty impressive statement for the Monks

The final one I believe would be WNEC. The past 3 seasons they've had 33, 30, and 34 wins respectively.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on January 11, 2011, 08:56:15 PM
Right you are Niner!

WNEC has had 5 30-win seasons since 2005.

31 in '05
35 in '06
33 in '08
30 in '09
34 in '10

Missed out on a sixth in '07 with just 28.

The Monks find themselves in some impressive company
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on January 12, 2011, 09:15:19 PM
Tufts closer Chris DeGoti named 1st Team preseason All-America by D3baseball.com.

Bobby Doyon, Ryan Walsh and Todd Keneborus second team.

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 13, 2011, 10:23:10 AM
New England Board-

I dont want to take anything away from the Monks because 30 wins is 30 wins and thats always impressive.  Is this a result of playing in the GNAC or have they been that good.  I could be wrong and maybe I am being a LEC-snob, but im wondering if the Monks winning that many games is becayse they are a better team in NE playing in one of the weaker conferences?  Wow I sound like a jerk, I think that ST Joes is a great progream and one that puts a great team out there year after year.  How many conference games do the GNAC play?  If it is only 14 like the LEC then that says something becuase they are getting more wins out of thier weak conference then they are in.  If they are like some of the other leagues and play over 20 conference games then maybe that stat should be taken with a grain of salt.

Having said that i looked up St Joes archives over the last 7 years and this is how they faired in the regionals against the best of NE

2010- Good run in the regionals  3 W and 2 L
2008 Two quick Losses  0W and 2 L
2007 Two quick Losses 0W and 2 L
2006 1 W and 2 L

I dont know about 2005 and 2009, i couldnt tell if they made it based on thier archives.

That means the last four years in the regionals.... 4 Wins and 8 Losses

Not an amazing regional record but not terrible as well.  Bottom line St Joe's is a great program.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: HBPme on January 15, 2011, 06:24:57 PM
First time. Long time.

Wondering what early season matchups are intiguing you guys the most. I saw that WNEC is playing Keene down in Farmingdale first week of March, which is always a good match. Seems as though these teams are about as even as they come. They split last year, and it will be very interesting to see how each team competes that early in March in the cold. Any other regionally ranked teams going head to head that early in the season?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: StagnantFLY on January 18, 2011, 01:33:14 PM
Hey Guys,
Its been awhile since I have posted. I was wondering about Indy Ball. My son played at the Division 3 level and was all region player 3 times and an all conference player as well. He had very good college stats.....averaging a .350-.380 BA every year with alot of RBIs and 4-5 Home Runs. I know its a tough answer since you prob havent seen him play but do you think he has a shot at playing Indy ball? Whats the level like at Indy ball....does an above average college D3 Player have a chance to excel there? He is been trying to contact teams via email but they seem to invite him to tryouts....are these tryouts worth it? Hope someone knows more than me!

Thanks
The FLY



Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 19, 2011, 08:56:33 AM
Stagnant what position does he play, does he have speed, does he hit for average or for power, how is his arm.  The answer to these questions might give you a better idea.  The level of play is pretty good at independent ball, and i would reccomend your son going to a try-out.  What does he have to lose?  You never know what can happen!!  Good luck to your son
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 19, 2011, 11:03:13 AM
HBPme-

I was looking at the schedule here are some other good games to start the year in no paticular order

1. St Joes of Maine vs Keene State March 15th in Florida- bewared the ides of march for someone!

2. Southern Maine vs Trinity DH on March 20th- Couple of Former National Champions locking up for two in Gorham

3. Wheaton vs St Joes of Maine March 16th- tough two day stretch for the monks as they get keene and Wheaton back to back, Wheaton also playing NY power Cortland earlier the same week

4. March 14 Babson vs Amherst

Some other good ones out there i am sure that i missed as well,

I tried to go through the regional teams from 2010 as a guide, Easterns schedule not yet posted
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on January 19, 2011, 11:14:17 AM
No way that game gets played in Maine on March 20th...Is that at a local turf field or are they just hoping for the best with the weather?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 19, 2011, 01:41:54 PM
Yeah i was surprised as well Rick Vaughn.  What will prob end up happening is that they move the game to Hartford CT where they have a better shot at playing the game at Trinity.  I am not sure how Maine's weather will be at that point but I know that a lot of LEC Northern teams such as Keene, Plymouth, and Southern Maine will move their home games to the other field to get it in.  I know that in 2007 Keene had really bad field problems and played 47 games, 6 of them in Keene, the rest of the road!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on January 19, 2011, 05:22:24 PM
Don't even know if Trinity will be ready at that point.  They have one of the worst fields in the region.  All NESCAC schools have very below average field except Tufts.  I think that's the only field with dugouts as well.

And I am also in charge of the New England preview for D3baseball.  Any thoughts on top conferences, teams, players???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on January 19, 2011, 05:44:29 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on January 19, 2011, 11:14:17 AM
No way that game gets played in Maine on March 20th...Is that at a local turf field or are they just hoping for the best with the weather?


The meeting is on the trip down South...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 20, 2011, 07:31:53 AM
Hockey-

Sorry about that i was looking at the schedule and i must of missed the site being florida, i must of only saw Trinity at USM. 

Hobbsey-  Obviously Doyon from Keene being a preseason all american, Keneborus from ST Joes, Ryan Walsh from UMB as well.  Those are the obvious.  Some dark horses to watch maybe....
Vogt from Keene, Pitched and was an all-star in the NECBL
Pisani- Shortstop from USM
Chamberlin P from Eastern, has potential to be dirty out of the pen

I really only know the LEC pretty well, and i think that conference will be tough again.  UMB, Eastern, Keene all went to the regionals last year, Eastern lost a lot of seniors but they tend to re-load not rebuild.  Keene only lost a couple of players and they return the core of a team that can mash.  Southern Maine is always going to be tough, and I am thinking that the league will be wide open.  My early favorite is Keene followed by Eastern, then Boston, and USM.  I know i am not telling you much new information that you dont already know but its the best i got
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on January 20, 2011, 07:50:55 PM
Agree with KSCfan about Doyon. Also heard through a reliable source that Voght has scouts looking at him. Fast ball i n 90's, question whether he can go more than one inning effectively.

Look for the pitching to come together for Keene. They've been practising for two years. They are a contact hitting team so should do well with bat change. I think they have been overlooked, but I always think that.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: 3rdgenerationnation on January 21, 2011, 01:15:54 PM
Hobbesy:

Babson should be very strong if three senior pitchers can come back healthy from various issues; Andrew Aizenstadt, Trevor MacNeil and Dave Ahern.  Ahern is moving to a role as a starting pitcher and DH from being an everyday outfielder and relief pitcher.  Last years' outstanding DH, Sophomore Chris Kucher will be moving to the outfield after recovering from his broken thumb. 

It looks like Wheaton will be the litmus test in the NEWMAC. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on January 21, 2011, 06:02:26 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on January 19, 2011, 01:41:54 PM
Yeah i was surprised as well Rick Vaughn.  What will prob end up happening is that they move the game to Hartford CT where they have a better shot at playing the game at Trinity.  I am not sure how Maine's weather will be at that point but I know that a lot of LEC Northern teams such as Keene, Plymouth, and Southern Maine will move their home games to the other field to get it in.  I know that in 2007 Keene had really bad field problems and played 47 games, 6 of them in Keene, the rest of the road!

I dont know about what you guys have North of the MA/NH boarder, but we have 3 feet of snow on the ground here in most of Connecticut and no sign of the train of snowstorms letting up.  It might be mid April before anyone can play baseball in  the Northeast never mind New England ???

Maybe Coach H will get the snowblowers out and clear the Eastern Baseball Stadium ;)

ECSU's first match-up is with Kean U in Union NJ Feb 27th.  If they play, it should be a good match-up.  BTW the 2011 schedule is posted  here:  http://www.easternct.edu/athletics/men_baseball/bb_schedule.htm

Also the 2011 roster is out!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on January 21, 2011, 08:21:51 PM
Info on a couple Newcomers to ECSU baseball for 2011:

Angelo Buscemi -Marlboro NY- JR 2B 5'-10 175
Transfer from D-I CCSU

ex CCSU baseball bios:  

2009: Saw action in 18 games last season for the Blue Devils...Scored four runs.  

2008: Redshirted the 2008 season.

Before Central: Named All-Section as a senior after hitting .482 with 22 runs batted in and 27 runs scored...Team captain...Also participated in football and track at Marlboro High.


Patrick Barnett Windsor CT 6-6 185 FR RHP/IF

Stats at WHS:

Windsor High School BaseballVarsity 09-10 Overall:13-9-0  League:7-7-0
Jersey: 21  Positions:RHP, SS  Class:Senior
Stats Batting Average  .382
On Base Percentage .455
Slugging Percentage .397
Fielding Percentage .885
Runs 14
Runs Batted In 16

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on January 24, 2011, 11:20:12 AM
Quote from: Hobbesy on January 19, 2011, 05:22:24 PM
Don't even know if Trinity will be ready at that point.  They have one of the worst fields in the region.  All NESCAC schools have very below average field except Tufts.  I think that's the only field with dugouts as well.

Hobbesy - As a NESCAC guy, I have to correct you.  Williams might have the best field in the conference - dugouts, great surface...just a terrible location on campus (about a 15 minute walk from everything).   Middlebury, Bates, Hamilton and Colby all have dugouts as well, but not great surfaces.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 24, 2011, 02:10:53 PM
If you were to give Amherst some dugouts that would be a very nice field as well.  I always liked that field, kind of a wierd location behind the gym and all, but seems that it would be nice to watch a game from that hill in left.  With a little bit of effort Amherst would be one of the nicer fields in the NESCAC and prob New England.  Vaughn why the lack of attention to fields from the NESCAC schools, it is one of the best new england conferences with the worst fields.  Is it because NESCAC schools pride education before athletics?


On a side note anyone want to throw a preseason poll of the top 8 teams in NE?
I know its only preseason but i need to do something to keep the snow off my mind
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on January 24, 2011, 03:21:01 PM
I have never understood why NESCAC baseball doesn't have nicer fields.  Trinity's field is embarrassing and I don't understand why it hasn't been upgraded at least a little.  Agreed on Amherst's yard - they could use dugouts, but it's a great setting and a pretty good surface.  Lack of nice fields has nothing to do with a lack of $$.  The mid-week travel in baseball is part of why some teams don't get the same respect.  I wouldn't be shocked if a team in the conference gets a turf field sometime in the near future.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on January 24, 2011, 06:31:15 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on January 24, 2011, 02:10:53 PM
 Is it because NESCAC schools pride education before athletics?



Can't be because for the most part they have very nice ice rinks....Middlebury and Bowdoin are 1-2 in terms of nice rinks IMO  in all of DIII...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 25, 2011, 09:14:52 AM
Good points Vaugh and Hockey, i just dont get it.  You put a nice field with a nice education at the "D3 Ivy" league schools and tell me you are not going to rip up recruiting.  You put a really nice field in at Trinity, and say to a recruit NESCAC education along with a team that has won national championships and gone to the world series you are going to only make your program stronger.  Trinity's football field is gorgeous!  Why not do the same to the baseball field.

Also D3baseball makeover is very nice so hats off to whomever did that
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: BBFan62 on January 25, 2011, 10:39:06 AM
As far as fields go, it's about the money.

Despite our love for the game and watching our guys play, baseball is a revenue draining, not a revenue enhancing sport. How many fans are at a typical D3 game? How many pay to watch? Even some D1 schools dropped baseball. It would not bother me to pay to see the game.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: HBPme on January 25, 2011, 11:28:03 AM
any chance of some dark horses emerging again this year, such as UMB last year? As always, I expect Wheaton, ECSU, Keene, Trinity, WNEC, St. Joes, etc. all to have great seasons, but ive always been one for the underdog and would like to see a new team emerge in New England.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on January 25, 2011, 11:38:33 AM
Quote from: BBFan62 on January 25, 2011, 10:39:06 AM
As far as fields go, it's about the money.

Despite our love for the game and watching our guys play, baseball is a revenue draining, not a revenue enhancing sport. How many fans are at a typical D3 game? How many pay to watch? Even some D1 schools dropped baseball. It would not bother me to pay to see the game.
Many schools do have the money but choose not to spend it on baseball fields. There are no D3 sports that are not revenue draining..The biggest one being football. The attendance is not big enough to cover the cost of football.

Sometimes it is not about the money but the priority the school places on where that money is spent. I have seen schools spend millions on different academic and athletic facilities but not on baseball. Yes the attendance is small compared to other sports and yes most teams can/will never charge for attendance.

I also know of schools who have the money and would spend the money but are restricted by the local governments on what can be built, where it can be built, when it can be built and requiring public access to facilities built.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on January 25, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
Rick,

Thank you for the correction.  I have never played at Williams, hence not placing it on that list.  As for Hamilton having dugouts, that's about all they have.  Played a couple games their during my legion career and couldn't believe it was a college field!

And I have to agree the setting at Amherst is amazing! The huge hill in left and then the huge expanse of fields behind the right field fence is amazing.  I still get shivers though from my junior year when we played there and it was about 30 degrees and the game ended in a tie!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 26, 2011, 07:25:43 AM
Hobbesy you are right, i remember sitting in those "dugouts" in early april almost shivering to death as the wind cut right through you.  At least Amherst had the gym behind it to cut the wind a little bit.  No such dice for the visiting team. 

Hobbesy when are we going to see that New England Preview?  I know teams usually start practicing the monday after super bowl sunday.  Nothing like walking to the gym at 5am in the 5 degree weather for practice.  Oh the joys of New England Collegiate Baseball
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: straightHeat3 on January 26, 2011, 08:57:53 AM
This is about the time of the year when we hype up our alma mater right?

Well I think they are finally getting SOME recognition for their performance for the past 6-7 seasons because numbers don't lie. 30 win seasons in 6 of the last 7 years, 6 conference championships; WNEC needs to make that next step in a regional to become a force in New England and maybe this year team can do it. Only losing 3 seniors, this team is still young but experienced.  The bats will have to have another successful year has they are losing (ABCA) Division III All-American Joe Griglun, but also returning 6 position players that batted over .300 last year.  On the other side of it, they are returning a very deep pitching staff that has 4 strong starters and closer in Lawlor. Should be interesting to see what this team will be able to pull off. Like every year their schedule isn't the easiest starting off in the Farmingdale Tournament playing Farmingdale St, RPI and Keene St, and seeing John Hopkins down in Arizona. Adding Regional Champ UMass-Boston, playing @Eastern Conn, @Wheaton, @ Keene St. will only set them up for a competitive year.

Should be another exciting year around New England. Interested in how other teams around the region are looking this year.


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on January 26, 2011, 11:04:14 AM
KSCfan-

Working on it right now. I'm through two conferences (GNAC and LEC) so far with six more to go! The New England preview on D3baseball.com is one of the last to go up but should be there within the week.

But some initial thoughts,

If St. Joe's, Mass-Boston and Keene can get some pitching (any at all!) they will be very good!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 26, 2011, 11:36:25 AM
Thanks Hobbsey appreciate all the work you do man.  What are you thoughts on your alma matta.  They are always good, who is going to carry their staff.  What are your thoughts on Chamberlin, does he stay in the bullpen, Do they have Wojick stay as a starter?

Who has the best pitching in the LEC?  Not keene, Not Eastern, Not USM then who???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 26, 2011, 11:37:59 AM
Correction Hobbesy i meant have Wojick start
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on January 26, 2011, 01:22:23 PM
Looking forward to your insight Hobbesy for the New England Region!

Pitching is always the name of the game and hopefully the Keene staff can step up this year and get them off on the right foot. This is the first time they will be playing games up north before heading south for their spring trip, they will have to be prepared right from the get go.

Funny looking back, how did we ever get through the winter? It seems as though the snow has been here for months and that baseball is another year away...I think January is officially the worst month of the year lol.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on January 26, 2011, 10:37:07 PM
This is my prediction on KSC pitching. They will have four pitchers who win 5 or more games and an All-American closer.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ms. Beacon on January 28, 2011, 12:11:38 AM
Quote from: kscer on January 26, 2011, 10:37:07 PM
This is my prediction on KSC pitching. They will have four pitchers who win 5 or more games and an All-American closer.

While I admire your enthusiasm for KSC's pitching staff, I think this is a pretty tall order.  Regional champs UMB finished the year with two pitchers with 5 or more wins, and runner-up Tufts had three pitchers on their staff with 5 or more wins.

While Vogt's numbers are impressive, the strong offense of the LEC may not provide him the opportunity to collect enough saves to be considered for All-American honors.  De Goti from Tufts had 12 saves last year, while Vogt only had 5.  I think he will need to improve significantly in this category in order to get a nod.

Although the Beacons lost three senior starters, my prediction is that their rotation will be better this year, since Gomez, Andriano and LeBrun all underperformed last year.  Dalton, coupled with either Cole or Heefner, provide a strong weekend combination.  However, the bullpen is a work in progress, and my hope is that some of the new untested arms can step-up and that the defense can continue to win games.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 28, 2011, 07:20:23 AM
KSCer- I can see Nelson from Keene getting 5 wins, that would leave Davis, and Pelky to win 5 as well, who is the other one?  Their is no question Keene bats will pound the ball, I just hope the staff steps up.  When Keene made a couple of deep runs in the regional it was on their pitching and defense. 

Ms. Beacon- Good point about Vogt, but I think that you will see Keene go to him not just in save situations.  I could very easily see Keene going to him in the 8 and 9th in a close game, or if the owls are up 6 or 7 and the other team starts to rally Keene will go to him as well.  I think you are going to see Vogt put impressive numbers no matter what, you might not see a lot of save but I will gurantee that you will see a lot of innings for him, with a very low WHIP, and a high strike out total.

Also please dont tell Jconn that Lebrun and Andriano underpreformed, those two guys are his boys, he might dis own your from beaconville.  Dalton is very good and I was very impressed with him last year as he just tore teams up.  With a questionable bullpen will we see teams try and be more patient with him to run up the pitch count and get to the bullpen in the 6th or 7th?

LECfan- Good point about Keene playing some Northern games before going south.   I think that this will help the team shake out a little before going south.  Usually in years past spots have been won and lost on the Arizona trip, now maybe the Owls might be able to lock in that "weekend lineup" a little sooner and really dominate that trip to Florida.  Some big new england games on that trip.

Who has the best pitching staff in New England?   I am a big LEC guy but i dont really see the best staff in New England at any of the LEC schools.  Is it perhaps at a Babson, Wheaton, a Trinity or a Williams, a St Joes?  Someone help please
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on January 28, 2011, 10:29:04 AM
While I think Vogt will put up great numbers it is interesting that Keene has had 2 premier "closers" in the last 5-6 years with Ford (holds the record for saves in a year and career at KSC) and now Vogt. Now they just have to get the starters and mid relievers on the same page!

LECFan, becuase it is Friday and do not wish to get back to work, I have gathered some information on your pitching question. Below is info. from the 2010 season as it relates to teams ERA. Suprised?

Team ERA 2010 (per NCAA website)- rankings are national
6. Wheaton (MA)- 3.71 (44 games)
22. Tufts University- 4.05 (41 games)
29. Worcester St.- 4.21 (43 games)
30. Western NE- 4.21 (46 games)
34. St. Joe's (ME)- 4.32 (48 games)

Those were the top 5 New England teams, below is Eastern and KSC to give you an idea of where they stood in region/country

88. Eastern CT- 5.08 (46 games)
152. Keene St.- 5.78 (45 games)

I have also put together some additional information (statistics) about those respective teams and their roster makeup for 2011.

Wheaton (MA)
Shepard  1.04 ERA  9 daves  26 IP  (graduated)
Corr  1.82 ERA  8-2  59 IP (junior)
Longley  2.42 ERA  2-0  26 IP  (graduated)
Kostaras  3.71  6-1  50 IP  (graduated)

Tufts
DeGoti  1.17 ERA  12 saves  23 IP  (junior)
Bernstein  1.55 ERA  4-0  29 IP  (senior)
Miller  2.92 ERA  5.0  52IP  (senior)
Ryan  3.33 ERA  4-1  51IP  (junior)
Gilchrist  3.48 ERA  6-1  51IP  (junior)

Worcester St.
Slattery  2.88 ERA  4-0  34IP  (sophmore)
Kasik  3.83 ERA 5-4  52IP  (senior)
Borowiec  3.84 ERA  4-2  63IP  (graduated)
DeVito  4.30 ERA  6-0  44IP  (senior)

Western New England
Lawlor  1.47 ERA  4-1  36IP 7 saves  (junior)
Jefferis  2.93 ERA  7-1  73IP  (sophmore)
Rogers  3.46 ERA  10-1  80IP  (senior)

St. Joe's
Murray  2.45 ERA  7-2  58IP  (junior)
Stanclift  2.55 ERA  5 saves  17IP  (transfer?)
Moran  3.52 ERA  7-2  64IP  (graduated)

Out of those top pitching teams in 2010 I think Tufts has to be reckoned with. They are returning all of their studs and will have 2 seniors and 3 juniors anchoring that staff. I will look to do some more digging this afternoon, need a good lunch, into the LEC and what is to come in that conference!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on January 28, 2011, 12:14:01 PM
LECFan, becuase it is Friday and do not wish to get back to work, I have gathered some information on your pitching question. Below is info. from the 2010 season as it relates to teams ERA. Suprised?

sorry...I meant KSCFan!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 28, 2011, 12:22:38 PM
LEC Fan- apparently the grange is boring on fridays huh?

1. I appreciate the information. + 1 karma  I agree with Tufts.  They where number 1 in New England for most of last year and i will admit that I have been over looking them by accident when talking about new england.  That staff looks very strong and I reckon they will be a force this year.  I looked for a 2011  schedule but its not posted as of yet.

2.  I think you meant KSCfan not LECfan because you are LECfan and Kscfan thinks that unless you are talking in the third person like the ROCK used to in the WWF you might of made a mistake.

3.  WNEC looks to have some good pitching as well.  New England looks to have no clear cut favorite this year.  

Based on my crazy ideas, what people have said, and some serious guess work here is my pre-season NE top 8

1. Umass Boston- Defending champs number 1 until someone proves otherwise
2. Tufts- looks to have prob the best pitching returning of all new england
3.  WNEC- looks to have a great staff back, can't see anyone else out of the CCC
4. Eastern CT- Lost a lot of offense still have strong pen with Wojick and Chamberlin, Still have Schult, they tend to win every year
5. St Joe's- Looking to put another strong year out there
6. Keene State- One of the best if not the best offense in New England, need pitching to step up and easily top 3 team in New England
7. Wheaton/Babon- NEWMAC powers are usually pretty strong
8. Worchester State- dont know much about them but they had a great year last year bring back Kasik and Deveto, should be able to win the MACSAC again
8. Wheaton/Babon- NEWMAC powers are usually pretty strong
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on January 28, 2011, 05:58:48 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on January 28, 2011, 07:20:23 AM
KSCer- I can see Nelson from Keene getting 5 wins, that would leave Davis, and Pelky to win 5 as well, who is the other one?  Their is no question Keene bats will pound the ball, I just hope the staff steps up.  When Keene made a couple of deep runs in the regional it was on their pitching and defense. 

KSCfan, There are three or four guys who have been injured or not found themselves who could step up -- Quags, Garrison, Theising, etc and a transfer or two. The potential is there, and you got Wojsch and Vogt to finish games. Look out, they're on no one's radar
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Niner on January 28, 2011, 06:57:46 PM
Quote from: LEC Fan on January 28, 2011, 10:29:04 AM
St. Joe's
Murray  2.45 ERA  7-2  58IP  (junior)
Stanclift  2.55 ERA  5 saves  17IP  (transfer?)
Moran  3.52 ERA  7-2  64IP  (graduated)

Stanclift transferred to Keene State. That will definitely help KSC. Saw him pitch a few times this summer for the Keene Blue Jays, decent arm, had good stuff.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on January 28, 2011, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: Niner on January 28, 2011, 06:57:46 PM
Quote from: LEC Fan on January 28, 2011, 10:29:04 AM
St. Joe's
Murray  2.45 ERA  7-2  58IP  (junior)
Stanclift  2.55 ERA  5 saves  17IP  (transfer?)
Moran  3.52 ERA  7-2  64IP  (graduated)

Stanclift transferred to Keene State. That will definitely help KSC. Saw him pitch a few times this summer for the Keene Blue Jays, decent arm, had good stuff.
There's another multi game winner along with Alex Ingram who transferred from down south... Methodist I think...got homesick.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Man on January 28, 2011, 09:50:59 PM
Rumor has it.  KSC has no Nelson, Davis to pitch - Stanclift and Ingram from KHS still up in air on how they may help the OWLS.  Could be a great year in LEC- UMB has to be the team to beat...  USm # 30 after .500 year??? that is coach flaherty and years of being good.  will they be good - most likely - Ed hates to throw clipboards for 2 years in a row.  ECSU - how is coach hollowaty doing? - we all hope he is back in dugout at ECSU????  KSC and the man behind OWLS pitching - Coach Testo and new daughter AVERY - We all hope everyone in the Swamp (TESTO VILLE) she is doing well.

My thoughts on LEC!!!

1. UMB
2. KSC
3. ECSU
4. USM
5. RIC
6. UMD
7. PSU
8. WCSU

Bring on the Spring!!!!!!!


OM
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ms. Beacon on January 29, 2011, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on January 28, 2011, 07:20:23 AM
KSCer- I can see Nelson from Keene getting 5 wins, that would leave Davis, and Pelky to win 5 as well, who is the other one?  Their is no question Keene bats will pound the ball, I just hope the staff steps up.  When Keene made a couple of deep runs in the regional it was on their pitching and defense. 

Ms. Beacon- Good point about Vogt, but I think that you will see Keene go to him not just in save situations.  I could very easily see Keene going to him in the 8 and 9th in a close game, or if the owls are up 6 or 7 and the other team starts to rally Keene will go to him as well.  I think you are going to see Vogt put impressive numbers no matter what, you might not see a lot of save but I will gurantee that you will see a lot of innings for him, with a very low WHIP, and a high strike out total.

Also please dont tell Jconn that Lebrun and Andriano underpreformed, those two guys are his boys, he might dis own your from beaconville.  Dalton is very good and I was very impressed with him last year as he just tore teams up.  With a questionable bullpen will we see teams try and be more patient with him to run up the pitch count and get to the bullpen in the 6th or 7th?

LECfan- Good point about Keene playing some Northern games before going south.   I think that this will help the team shake out a little before going south.  Usually in years past spots have been won and lost on the Arizona trip, now maybe the Owls might be able to lock in that "weekend lineup" a little sooner and really dominate that trip to Florida.  Some big new england games on that trip.

Who has the best pitching staff in New England?   I am a big LEC guy but i dont really see the best staff in New England at any of the LEC schools.  Is it perhaps at a Babson, Wheaton, a Trinity or a Williams, a St Joes?  Someone help please

KSCfan -- I agree with you about Vogt.  If I were Coach Howe, I certainly would use him more.  And based on his performance last year, there is no reason to think he won't put up great numbers again.  However, it remains to be seen how his arm would respond with more use.  I still feel that in order to get All-American consideration, he needs to either pitch more innings while maintaining his numbers or improve his save totals.

I know Jconn always has the Beacons back, but if you look at their seasons objectively, LeBrun and Andriano did underperform.  LeBrun pitched all year with an injury (clearly not his fault), and although he collected four wins, with a 7.83 ERA, the offense clearly picked him up.  Andriano went 1-3 in starts and did not turn it on until the last four weeks.  It was nice to see both of these seniors go out with a bang, but Dalton, Heefner and Damon carried that staff.  And having the second best offense in the LEC wasn't bad either!

As for testing the young bullpen, Dalton pitched 6 complete games, so trying to get his pitch count up to get to the pen likely won't work well as a strategy.  The starting rotation overall should be strong and better than last year's staff looking one through five.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on January 29, 2011, 05:09:16 PM
Quote from: Old Man on January 28, 2011, 09:50:59 PM
Rumor has it.  KSC has no Nelson, Davis to pitch -

OM
Old Man, I echo your thoughts. Nelson and Davis gone? That's not good for Keene in terms of pitcher development. What did you hear?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on January 31, 2011, 09:54:20 AM
Wow the rumor mill is swirling out of the swamp.  I went to the Keene State athletic website, and the 2011 roster is not out yet.  So far the rumors are unconfirmed!  With Stanclift at keene that is going to give them three bullpen guys that are strong.  You will now have Wojsch, Vogt, and Stanclift out of the bullpen.  Might you see one of those guys go into a start role on weekdays, and then come out of the pen on saturday?  Loving the baseball talk on the board.  Some great insight from people.

Ms. Beacon good point on Dalton throwing 6 complete games. I did not know that, it seems that UMB has a work horse in him. 

Old Man- USM being ranked 30 after their 500 season last year should not come as a surprise.  This happens every year.  Pre-season rankings are nice but hardly even close to a real reflection.  The coach from Oregon has heard of Southren Maine so he votes for them, but he truly has no idea what they have.  The same is prob true of the Eastern USA coaches not knowing a team from the west.  Coaches know the team has had success and they end up in the pre-season polls.

Also the potluck for the Testo's seemed to go very well.  I attended and their was a great turn out.  Nice to see the town of Keene rally for a great family. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: nescacbaseballfan on January 31, 2011, 05:26:26 PM
Just as a reply to previous comments about schools in the nescac with bad fields such as Trinity.  I know for a fact that for the past 7 years or more Coach Decker has brought in recruits with the promise to build the new "stadium" field under the lights with locker rooms and everything during their four years at Trinity.  He even has a drawing of it in his office to show the recruits and reel them in.   
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on February 01, 2011, 09:28:08 AM
nescacbaseballfan- 7 years!!! that is almost 2 classes of players...you would think after their national championship he would have the leg to stand on to get that thing built!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: HBPme on February 01, 2011, 11:05:57 AM
just sitting here watching the snow fall, and fall, and fall. chances these teams get their pre-spring trip games in? Farmingdale is hosting what seems to be a very promising early season tournament, but its not looking good so far. Coming from a player who got to play games before the spring trip, it is GREATLY beneficial to the team as a whole and the players as individuals to have a "tune-up" before their trips down south. It was always tough going from the gym, straight to the field. Lets hope these teams are able to play that wknd, even if it is while enduring very inclement weather.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 02, 2011, 10:38:24 AM
Got a comment on my blog from a Tufts parent stating that All-America closer Chris DeGoti underwent Tommy John surgery last week.  I checked the information with a coach at Tufts and it is correct.  Huge blow for the Jumbos.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 03, 2011, 10:58:19 AM
And my regional preview was just posted on the d3baseball website


http://d3baseball.com/notables/2011/01/NewEngland_Regional_preview_2011 (http://d3baseball.com/notables/2011/01/NewEngland_Regional_preview_2011)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 03, 2011, 11:33:43 AM
Hobbesy,

Great job on the NE Preview on front page for d3baseballl.com!!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: 3rdgenerationnation on February 03, 2011, 12:41:03 PM
Hobbesy:

We appreicate all of the hard work that had to go into putting together such a comprehensive review of D3 baseball in New England.  Great job - thank you.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 03, 2011, 01:23:03 PM
Hobbsey i agree as well. Great job breaking down the conferences and some key players to look at. 

One question that i thought of.  With the AQ of the NECC you now have AQ's in

1. Little East
2. TCCC
3. NESCAC
4. MASCAC
5. GNAC
6. NEWMAC
7. NAC
8. NECC

That means 8 AQ's in New England.  This means that there will only be 1 at large team going to the regionals from NE?  The New York Regional usually takes one team from NE and will have 6 or 7.  Could we see 2 teams from NE going out to NY to fill up their regional to 8 teams.  This could bring up the debate when a 30 win team from a "power" conference stays home while the winner of the NECC with a record of 22-17 goes.  Are the days of the Little East sending 3 teams over with the addition of the NECC AQ? 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Wally on February 04, 2011, 09:11:51 AM
Hobbsey super job as always! If the rumors are true about Davis and Nelson(KSC), who steps into those shoes? Did USM bring in any freshman pitching that might help(transfers), there staff really seemed to struggle at times last year. Any word on DeGoti for sure? How much will St. Joe's miss Pat Moran? Just some thoughts...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 04, 2011, 10:32:02 AM
KSCfan-

I think there is still room open for one or two at large bids from New England but they might be a little more hard to come by.  We saw last year that the NAC/NEAC winner (Castleton St.) played in the New York regional and I see that continuing this year and into the future.  Obviously the NECC winner probably won't be shipped out so they will, unless a team is extremely good, be an 8 seed in the region.  That leaves an open spot in NE for an at large team and then depending on travel distances and the season a team has had, another NE team could be shipped out to New York or the Mid-Atlantic.  I think it comes down to if you're good enough to be in, you should be ok but that has not always been the case even in the past.

Wally-

The coach at Tufts is very well informed and it was confirmed so that leaves a big hole at the back end of their bullpen.  Still a very good team and I am not sure how much a closer will effect their chances.  As for Moran, they will miss him come regional time.  There is no substitute for a pitcher of his caliber when he is on.  They should have no problem winning the GNAC again with what they have but they will have to get strong outings from the younger guys on their staff.

Not sure about USM and KSC pitching problems but I am planning on talking to every coach in the region to get their thoughts about the upcoming season.  I hope to add the audio to my website and even get video from the coaches that are around Boston.  Could take a couple weeks but it doesn't look like we are in any hurry unless the groundhog was right!  :P
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 04, 2011, 10:59:40 AM
Hobbesy thanks for the insight on the AQ's.  This will put huge emphasis on big regional weekday games.  Those mid-week games just got that more important

Some pitchers that might step up for Keene are Perreault, Theising, and Pelkey.  Pelkey is going to need to rebound to his freshman form, and improve on it for the OWLs to be where they want to be.  You might see a bullpen guy like a Quags, and or Lacourse get stretched out to start.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 04, 2011, 12:30:51 PM
Or maybe Stanclift who started during high school and his summer teams, and or the Igram transfer kid.  Im not sure who will step up but i am sure that the coaching staff has some pretty good ideas... and that is if said pitchers are not returning, no roster posted yet so its still very much up in the air.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 04, 2011, 01:05:42 PM
You make a great point KSCfan.  The mid-week games are going to be even more important now, especially for teams like Keene, ECSU, USM, Babson, Wheaton, WNEC and the like.  With all the parity in New England and all of these teams scheduled to play each other, there is not much room for error especially if they struggle within their conference.  You look at the NEWMAC this year going to a three-game series and that will put a big strain on the pitchers.

Overall, every team is going to need their entire pitching staff to step up and throw quality innings.  I know from experience that in the past this is always what Eastern has been good at, building a complete staff.  In order for other teams in the region to be successful this year they will need to emulate that.  This means a solid rotation of 4-5 arms plus a bullpen that has guys that can throw 2-3 times a week out of the bullpen.  After that you just pray for health.

I do think that the new bats this year will change the game dramatically.  Last year was ridiculous with the amount of runs that were scored.  I think at least 5 teams set program records for runs in a season.  I dont think that will be the case this year which means that even back-end bullpen guys could have successful years.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 04, 2011, 01:19:27 PM
Also wanted to bring up a scheduling question that I think might start some good debate if it already hasn't in the past. 

The NEWMAC conference tournament takes place at the end of April.  That means those teams have three weeks or so of sitting around and waiting to see what happens.  Obviously, the winner knows they are in and can begin preparing.

I noticed that Wheaton has 8 games scheduled after NEWMAC tourney.

What do we think guys...good thing or bad thing that they hold their conference tournament so early?

Makes them pack alot of games in a short span.  Look at Babson's schedule http://www.babsonathletics.com/sports/m-basebl/2010-11/schedule (http://www.babsonathletics.com/sports/m-basebl/2010-11/schedule)

Not much rest for the weary!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: BigPoppa on February 04, 2011, 01:22:40 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on February 04, 2011, 01:19:27 PM
Also wanted to bring up a scheduling question that I think might start some good debate if it already hasn't in the past. 

The NEWMAC conference tournament takes place at the end of April.  That means those teams have three weeks or so of sitting around and waiting to see what happens.  Obviously, the winner knows they are in and can begin preparing.

I noticed that Wheaton has 8 games scheduled after NEWMAC tourney.

What do we think guys...good thing or bad thing that they hold their conference tournament so early?

Makes them pack alot of games in a short span.  Look at Babson's schedule http://www.babsonathletics.com/sports/m-basebl/2010-11/schedule (http://www.babsonathletics.com/sports/m-basebl/2010-11/schedule)

Not much rest for the weary!
WOW! Babson is not messing around! Guess they will find out about their pitching in a hurry, huh?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 04, 2011, 01:29:08 PM
BigPoppa-

Insane right!!??  That is one of the toughest schedules I have ever seen! They step off the plane from Florida and get right back on the field
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: BigPoppa on February 04, 2011, 01:33:25 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on February 04, 2011, 01:29:08 PM
BigPoppa-

Insane right!!??  That is one of the toughest schedules I have ever seen! They step off the plane from Florida and get right back on the field

Looks more like a minor league schedule... without the paychecks, of course.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Wally on February 04, 2011, 01:45:25 PM
Check out St. Joe's schedule.@gomonks.com. Looks similiar to Babson's about 40 games. WOW
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 04, 2011, 02:01:03 PM
Hobbesy-

You know that i am a Little East guy and I used to love the fact that it was conference tournament time, and then Regional time.   I really felt that the LEC tournament really prepared a team for the Regional run.  Roughly the same amount of teams, run the same way with double loss.  I like the conference tournament at the end of the year because it forms a definite end to your season.

Pro's of having it early
1. Weather not an issue, as  you have ample time to make up rain outs
2.  If you lose your conference tournament but knock off some really good regional teams you might be able to play your way in to an at large bid.  This would mean that if you are a NEWMAC team you are looking to play WNEC, Keene, Eastern, USM, Trinity, Tufts, UMB teams for your last 8 or so games after the tournament.  That way you might make be able to play in if all conference tournaments go chalk. 

Cons-
1.  Lackluster team if you have a .500 record and you lose.  If you are that 500 team and you make a deep run into your tournament to come up short now what.  You have this wave of living the dream going maybe you can get into this regional only to deflate and fall short.  Then what for the last 8 games?  Play for what?  Play the underclassmen see what they have to prove? Play for pride?  I mean not a lot to play there.
2.  Can play yourself out of an at large.  Lets say Babson has 33 wins and loses to Wheaton. Then they schedule tough teams at the end to try and get in and go on a losing streak.  What was an at large has now played yourself into the ECAC. 

Does NCAA seems to look at regular season games more importantly than conference tournament games???


What did i miss?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 04, 2011, 02:14:55 PM
KSCfan-

Maybe it is our LEC backgrounds but I can't imagine playing the conference tournament so early and then playing games after it.  You're right, what if you lose and then play afterwards...total let down!

I remember in '09 when they tried out a different postseason format in the LEC and all 8 teams made it with a best-of-three first round to determine the final four teams.  We played a game during the week in between those two weekends and even that felt strange.

But you don't have to go very far back to find a team who used the conference tournament momentum to run through the regional and then into the world series.  That team was Illinois Wesleyan.  Who knows what would have happened if they had to wait a few weeks to play again.  Instead, they rode that momentum to a clean sweep in the regionals and then took home the walnut and bronze!

I think that played a role in WNEC's poor showing in last year's regional.  They entered as one of the favorites but never seemed to get on track.  They certainly needed the rest with the run they had to make in TCCC tournament but they were never able to regain that in Mansfield two weeks later.

I know that in 2006, we were running solely on momentum.  4 wins in 24 hours in the conference tournament and then we headed right out to regionals only to play 7 games in 5 days.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: HBPme on February 05, 2011, 09:35:11 PM
Hobbesy-

Couldnt agree with you more about rolling right out of conference tourney play into the regionals. I am a firm believer that if your conference tourney ends on a Sunday, you better pray that it is the Sunday before regionals begins. It is always tough for a team to have a week or 2 in between, even if you do have games scheduled during that time. Not easy to go from a very competitive conference tourney, to a regular season game, back to a talent laced regional. UMB rode the momentum train all the way through from the LEC tourney to Appleton. Clearly hurt WNEC last year, even with a very exciting conference tournament win. Wheaton was firing on all cylinders in their conference tournament also, and had trouble finding that again in Mansfield.

Read your preview, well done.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Tarheel0550 on February 07, 2011, 12:46:14 PM
Jumping in a little late on this ,but with the NECC getting an AQ it could hurt a New York region team that should get a bid. The NECC is a bad conference with some really good players.I have watched them for two years and you could probably make two really good teams if you took the best players from each team and put them together but other than that it will be a one and done for the NECC and a day off for whoever they draw in the first round
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 07, 2011, 01:04:51 PM
Tarheel you are right.  The NECC is brutally bad.  The power houses are Mitchell and Becker?  Maybe Lesley?  Unless one of these teams has an unknown stud pitcher on it i dont see anytime that the NECC champ wont go two and out.  I dont think that this will hurt NY regional as it traditionally has 6-7 teams and not the full 8 that other regions have.  I still think that you will get an at large team from NE over there, it just might fill up to 8 teams now.  So New England could have the 8 AQ's

TCCC
LEC
NESCAC
NECC
NAC
MASCAC
NEWMAC
GNAC

And new york could have their AQ

Empire 8
Liberty League
Cunyac
Sunyac
Skyline

Plus an at large from NY and an at large from NE, and maybe another at large from either.  Who and what depends a lot on travel costs, and the records.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 07, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
No AQ for the Empire 8...those teams are pool B and Ithaca almost always gets selected.

But there have been years when they also bring up a mid-atlantic team or a team from Ohio.

I know in 08 we were there (New England) Montclair was there (Mid-Atlantic) and Ohio Wesleyan (Mideast) was there so the New York, besides being one of the weakest regions and almost always set up for Cortland to win it, has some room to work with
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Tarheel0550 on February 07, 2011, 03:36:55 PM
Dont think you have to worry about Lesley this year .I think  this is only their second year  year of actual ball, I think they have been a club team up to now.D WEB has a pretty good pitcher in Kory Kiro but I also have seen him give up hits to the better hitters in league.The NECC has turned out to be a feel good league with Del Malloy at the helm.They have time and time again done things to make sure that they can control the outcome  of events and control who gets what and what team gets what.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 08, 2011, 07:31:45 AM
Hobbesy- thanks for the correction on the Empire 8, i was just thinking Ithaca is usually in the tournament every year.  Yeah New York regional is usually pretty weak and they seem to have the most random mix of any of the regions.  It should be interesting to see how the regionals are impacted by the new AQ in NE. 

Hobbsey, i know that some teams are leaving TCCC to form a new conference either next year of the year after.  Will this give NE a 9th conference and how would that effect the regional.  Would someone most def get shifted out to NY no matter what? 

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Tarheel0550 on February 08, 2011, 12:48:36 PM
I think I can jump in on this one KSCFAN,if they form a new conference I believe they will have to wait two years to be eligible for post season play.I know when the NECC formed that was the situation ,they also need a least 7 teams to qualify
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: fotoguy on February 10, 2011, 12:58:56 PM
anyone hit with the "new" bats yet? i heard you might as well approach the batters box with a toothpick. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Tarheel0550 on February 10, 2011, 01:21:29 PM
Advantage def goes back to pitching and defense,no cheap homeruns now,they play more like wood and have a smaller sweetspot for sure
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 10, 2011, 02:12:42 PM
why not just switch to wood.  Players play with wood all summer long in most leagues, combine that with "scouts" (i know its d3 but still) being able to judge better if d3 players can be successful at the next level, it seems like a win win.  I have heard that the bats are def a lot more like hitting with wood.  Couple of questions to think about

Could be we see pitchers bust hard in more?  Before hitters could get jammed and still hit the ball out of the park.  Now, we might see more pitchers coming in hard to set up the offspeed.  Keeping the ball down is obviously vital, but we could see an increase in pitchers coming inside.

Did the bat companies go to far?  Im all for safety, but did the bat companies go to far the other way in trying to protect pitchers.  Remember the days of -5  2 3/4 " barrell?  How did pitchers every survive.  What was the reason for the change to the current BBCore bats that we are starting to use.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Tarheel0550 on February 10, 2011, 02:23:08 PM
  KSCfan From what I am told it is more about saftey than anything else.But I can see why they dont want to switch to wood,atleast for D3 programs and that is cost. Average price of a good wood bat is upwards of 70 to 120 bucks,if each player is given atleast 3 bats plus spares the cost could put some programs in a bad spot.I have personally seen 5 or 6 bats get broken just in a practice,and that was summer ball,where most of the kids buy their own bats.I think you are getting the better of both worlds with the new bats ie:saftey and durability.That being said I agree with you and think they should just switch to wood.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Wally on February 10, 2011, 11:21:26 PM
From parents of pitchers, cost is not the concern. If cost were the concern, then why are pitchers going to the emergency room with cracks to the skull on such an alarming rate? With kid's spending $500 plus on bats THAT don't break? I mean REALLY can we just get back to REAL baseball? 3-2 instead of 20-17? I was at Fenway Park the night Bryce Florie got hit in the face, and will never forget it. You could hear a person cough. When was the last time you could say that? I mean what else do we need to do? Thoughts? Or am I out of line?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 11, 2011, 12:45:34 AM
Quote from: Tarheel0550 on February 10, 2011, 02:23:08 PM
 KSCfan From what I am told it is more about saftey than anything else.But I can see why they dont want to switch to wood,atleast for D3 programs and that is cost. Average price of a good wood bat is upwards of 70 to 120 bucks,if each player is given atleast 3 bats plus spares the cost could put some programs in a bad spot.I have personally seen 5 or 6 bats get broken just in a practice,and that was summer ball,where most of the kids buy their own bats.I think you are getting the better of both worlds with the new bats ie:saftey and durability.That being said I agree with you and think they should just switch to wood.
Wood composite bats with a 6 month warranty
http://www.baumbat.com/productInfo.html

Thousands of Baum bats have been placed in service in professional baseball, collegiate summer leagues, colleges and high schools. Baum®Bat is a wood bat, except it is far more durable. Thousands of hits were attained on some bats while maintaining the inside-jam pitch effectiveness due to bat sting and wood-like ball exit velocity
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 11, 2011, 08:39:24 AM
Crash great article on the Baum bats.  I have heard of them but never used them.  I know that Wilson makes a composite two piece wood.  It has like a rubber handle and a wood barrel.  During the summer one year, our team gave us 2 wood bats, and bought the team 2 of those composite Wilsons.  When your two bats were dead (mine sooner than later as I cant hit the inside pitch without snapping a bat) we all used those Wilsons that I really liked.  If you got jammed or didnt hit the ball off the sweet spot it went no where, but if you sqaured up a ball it went.  Just another alternative. 

Im pretty sure that a lot of bat companies have composites as well.  I have seen like a blue metallic looking one from mizuno that comes with a warranty if you break it, as well as the bamboo ones have a 90 day warranty on them.

Wally i understand your concerns, and safety should always be put first.  Its scary how fast the ball can come off the bat.  Byrce was gross, i remember watching that game on tv, and you knew it was bad when they chose to use the far away camera instead of zooming right in on him.  Sadly injuries happen in sports.

I remember one time at Castleton that was just as gross as Byrce Florie.  A bullpen pitcher for Keene came into the game who threw hard, prob 88-90 on average.  It was the 7th inning, and he came into pitch.  we get the first out of the inning and then the next batter comes up.  Well our pitcher throws a 88 mph, and it gets away from him high and tight.  THe kid never moved. I dont know he just froze, or if he couldnt move fast enough but the ball drilled the kid right in the face.  The kid took it dead square in the face, now you know it was bad cause the ball just dropped to the ground.  Without getting to graphic their was a lot of blood, a lot of blood and the kid left in ambulance.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: fotoguy on February 11, 2011, 08:55:17 AM
my guess is the top hitting average in the NCAA this year will be around 375.  Anyone hitting over 400 in college this year will be a 1st round draft pick.

and how about the use of rolled bats? how many "good" teams are ordering pre rolled ones now? ???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: BigPoppa on February 11, 2011, 12:06:01 PM
Quote from: fotoguy on February 11, 2011, 08:55:17 AM
my guess is the top hitting average in the NCAA this year will be around 375.  Anyone hitting over 400 in college this year will be a 1st round draft pick.

and how about the use of rolled bats? how many "good" teams are ordering pre rolled ones now? ???

I'll take that bet. There are always some great hitters in terrible pitching conferences that put up numbers regardless. I think we have multiple guys over .400. Guys that can hit, can hit regardless of the tool. There were days I felt like I could 4-5 with a garden spade in my hands:)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 11, 2011, 12:22:42 PM
Big poppa good point.  Some guys get locked in and it doesnt matter what you throw or in what count you throw it in, the ball gets whacked.  Overall though averages will drop, should be interesting to see what happens with the bats and runs and hitting in general.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Tarheel0550 on February 12, 2011, 05:53:39 PM
to Wally, My son has been a pitcher because he can pitch but has earned his respect behind the plate as a catcher and as a hitter,cost is not a factor to pitchers because they usually dont bat once they get to college,cost can be a factor to players that hit,price out some good wooden bats and you would see they are not cheap.Also have you ever seen a wooden bat break ? they splinter and fly everywhere like a spear.Ask the pro player from last year that had his lung punctured.As for warranty's they are great but that doesnt mean the bat wont break.Injuries occur in sports, thats just the way it is,its not something anyone wants to see but they are part of the game.Should they start making 3rd basemen wear masks because somebody might swing away in a bunting situation and ram a ball down his throat?How about outfielders,should we make them wear shoulder pads because they might injur their shoulder running into the wall for a fly ball?Maybe we could put the ball on a tee for the batter that way there isnt a chance the pitcher will throw at them.You can not legistate injuries out of the game.If baseball were easy and injury free everyone would play.And always remember no-one forced your son to pitch,if you are afraid for him ask him to try another position,but I have a feeling if he is a true ball player he will tell you NO-WAY ! We as parents are always afraid our "children" will get hurt playing sports,but thats their choice and one that we have to live with.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on February 14, 2011, 09:32:28 AM
Tarheel: I don`t think third baseman should wear masks. I don`t think outfielders should wear shoulder pads. I don`t think we should put the ball on a tee. But moving away from the high powered metal bats is a good thing for many reasons. Pitcher safety is just one. There are studies that show it is physically impossible for a pitcher to react in time to defend themselves from balls hit off them, and banning them will have the impact of legislating some injuries out of the game. That`s a bad thing? No one can eliminate all injuries from sports, but there are times when safety issues do need to be taken into account, e.g., elimination of the crackback block in football. From another perspective, the high powered metal bats made the game worse, and while I would prefer that they go back to wood bats, as many summer leagues and some college leagues have done, it is a step in the right direction. Hopefully, we won`t have any more backup shortstops hitting .370 and final scores that would make NFL offensive coordonators proud. I also agree that wooden bats could be made safer, I played with them many, many years ago and while I broke my share, I don`t ever remember one breaking like they sometimes do now.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Tarheel0550 on February 14, 2011, 11:15:22 AM
zoneit,why shouldnt 3rd baseman wear masks?are you saying they can react better when they are closer to the batter than the pitcher on bunts?I said in previous post that i think they should go back to wood bats also, but cost is a factor for D3 schools the budgets some of these schools have isnt anymore than some high schools,This I know for a fact.No I am not against "saftey" but play the game.But please make sure the rules go both ways,when a batter gets hit in the face  with a pitch that is coming at him too fast for him to get out of the way what are we going to do?I dont want to hear "well that one just got away from the pitcher",Maybe we can legislate how hard a pitcher can throw or maybe no breaking balls.I dont have anything against the new bats cause I dont play anymore,but dont say they will also keep scores down.Have you seen some of the scores in already UT Dallas 15 PLU 14,Trinity 15 Austin 10, dont bad pitching and errors have more to do with scores than the bats sometimes?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on February 14, 2011, 03:09:42 PM
Sometimes they do. I think the scores will generally be lower, as they are in wood bat leagues, but I guess we`ll see and there will still be some high scoring affairs.

Helmets are better than they used to be and umpires are more likely to toss a pitcher who deliberately throws at a hitter but unfortunately, there will be batters who get hit from time to time. I don`t have a solution to that problem, and I was hit in the head a couple of times myself (which probably explains a lot). But, I will say that a ball comes off a juiced up metal bat a heck of a lot faster than anyone other than possibly Steve Dalkowski can throw it; and in any event, I don`t see the logic in sending more pitchers to the hospital to....what, even things up?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Tarheel0550 on February 14, 2011, 05:41:46 PM
zoneit ,ive been coaching baseball for 20 years now and in that time ive seen one pitcher hit in the face and that was in a wooden bat tourney, maybe thats one too many, i agree, but i havnt talked to one player that said there was a problem with the old bats, its the people that watch the game that have a problem with aluminum bats.Why havnt we changed the ball?There is no comparison to the balls used now to the old ones,they are wound tighter and made of materials to make them fly,why are we not looking at that?You said it was physically impossible for pitchers to "defend" themselves from a ball hit back at them ,yet i see pitchers catch balls hit at them everyday.Accidents happen is what i am saying ,I do not want a player hurt if we can fix the problem ,but i do think we have to look at the whole picture.What is going to be said when a pitcher gets hit by a ball off these new bats?Bat company's will continue to make bats better and these new ones are no exception,they will figure out how to make a ball jump off of them.why are we still wearing metal spikes?why are players allowed to slide head first,players know the risk they take and make a decision to play anyway.This is what seperates athletes from non athletes,they play it for the "love of the game".
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: HBPme on February 15, 2011, 11:28:05 AM
tarheel,
i agree with you that players know the risk of playing baseball and certain acts such as sliding head first and what not, but the new bat changes are good. And while maybe there are other safety precautions that could be taken, but, they cant make all the changes in one year. This could be the beginning of a reform in order to start protecting our players safety. Instead of getting all heated of the fact that they are making new bats, you should be becoming hopeful that more changes like this will happen in the years to come.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 15, 2011, 11:49:26 AM

See below article:

http://nutmeg.easternct.edu/mt-static/athletics/2011/02/little-east-littleeast-mobi-debuts-tonight.html

Little East Conference TV will now provide access to broadcasts on smartphones etc!!!


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Tarheel0550 on February 15, 2011, 12:43:20 PM
HBPme ,I never said I was against the new bats, this started when a parent of a pitcher said  that said that by switching to wood bats cost was not an issue and I said it was to players that hit, most pitchers in college DONT HIT,Some people on here make it seem like its a political agenda "well if your against the new bats you are against safety",I feel safety should be in the forefront to protect these young players ,but I also asked if this is all about safety then why doesnt the NCAA regulate some of the other things in baseball ie;sliding head first,wearing metal spikes ect.please read the start of my post to get everything in context.I just stated that by going to wood you are not doing the players as great a service as some think ,these new wooden bats have such thin handles to get the weight distribution right that they often splinter when hit off the end and become missles launched at the players.I feel the new aluminum bats are fine as they should be more durable than wood but still cut down on players "pitchers getting hurt".
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: fotoguy on February 15, 2011, 12:57:40 PM
why was the rule changed so quickly in college yet the high schools get one more year of the old bats? doesnt that bother anyone?  either change them all at the same time or dont do it! ??? ???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Tarheel0550 on February 15, 2011, 01:24:33 PM
fotoguy ,thankyou for getting on with something else!!!,Was told had more to do with budgets than anything else.Our schools athletic teams only get money for new equipment and unis every 3 years,Now if equipment does have to be replaced or refurbished every year ,like football helmets, that money is approved in a seperate fund. We do get new baseballs and things like that every year but we also do alot of fund raising throughout the year to pay for new bats and such if we need them.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on February 15, 2011, 03:19:58 PM
Who in New England plays the first Spring games? Whether it be up north or down south on their trips? Funny to think baseball started out west and down south...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 15, 2011, 03:28:53 PM
Quote from: LEC Fan on February 15, 2011, 03:19:58 PM
Who in New England plays the first Spring games? Whether it be up north or down south on their trips? Funny to think baseball started out west and down south...

Ehh, not necessarily funny.

Just civilized   ;)     :)

(altho' the weather last week was miserable, and I cannot remember such a spell of really bad weather that DFW had during Super Bowl Week.)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on February 15, 2011, 03:37:17 PM
What....40 games in a month and a half isn't normal?!? lol
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on February 15, 2011, 04:33:54 PM
Re early games, don`t know the whole landscape but the RussMatt Central Florida schedule is up, see russmattbaseball.com. Games there start Feb.21 although Brandeis is the only New England team there early. Lots of New England teams show up there in March, some great matchups.  8-)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 16, 2011, 08:08:06 AM
I had heard that high school got to hang onto the old bats for one more year becuase some high schools play their seasons in the fall.  This means that they got to use the old bats for "this year"  The NHSF said that since the fall baseball schools used them this school year so shouldnt the spring ones.  Then they will make the switch.  All college baseball is played in the spring so it will impact everyone at the same time. 

40 games in a month and a half i feel helps the northern teams.  The World Series and Regionals are a lot of games in a short amount of time.  The teams that play this style all year seem to be not as fazed by this as much.  If your are a South school that plays one game every 3 days for 2 months it is kinda a shock to the sytem for the regionals and WS.  A northern team is used to this style of play.

Looking back at the WS over the last couple of years

2010 Illinois-Wesleyan over Cortland State
2009 St Thomas Minnesota over Wooster
2008 Trinity over John Hopkins
2007 Kean over Emory
2006 Marietta over Wheaton
2005 Wisc- Whitewater over Cortland State
2004 George Fox over Eastern CT
2003 Chapman over Christopher Newport
2002 Eastern CT over Marietta
2001 St Thomas Minnesota over Marietta
2000 Montclair State over St Thomas

When you break down state representation in the championship games in the last decade....

CT-3
Ill-1
Minn-2
MA-1
Wisc-1
NY-2
OH-2
NJ-4
Oregon-1
Maryland-1
Georgia-1
Virginia-1

Just interesting to see more Northern Schools playing in title games.  I believe this is a direct result of their 40 games in 40 nights schedule preparing them for post season play.  Why dont down south schools adopt similar schedule?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on February 17, 2011, 10:10:45 PM
KSC, I looked at a few of the schedules that some of the better southern teams play, like Shenandoah. The big thing that strikes me about the schedules is when they end. Many of those schools are done by around April 26, conference tournaments included.  :o If as you suggest they haven`t been successful in getting to the finals, the three week layoff from then until the NCAAs start could be a factor. It is consistent with your basic point.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 18, 2011, 07:22:40 AM
Thats a great point Zoneit.  I mean what do you do for three weeks of just sitting around and not playing.  You can intersquad, or practice i guess but baseball is a game that you need to play everyday.  Playing everyday allows you to get into that comfort zone.  Three weeks off can throw you into a slump or funk really easily.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on February 18, 2011, 08:30:03 AM
Just stumbled upon some new information about the upcoming season, not sure if anybody else was aware...

"There will also be a change on the mound. In an attempt to speed up the game, the NCAA has also added a pitch clock. New rules require pitchers to start their delivery in no more than 20 seconds without runners on base. Umpires will be required to monitor and enforce the time limit. Additionally, in non-televised games, umpires will enforce a 90-second limit between innings."

This paragraph was taken from an article on KSC's baseball website.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on February 19, 2011, 02:06:56 PM
Bates College has a brief Texas swing next week, playing four games against Texas schools Austin, Texas-Dallas and University of Dallas. Challenging, especially since NESCAC schools couldn`t start coach-led practices until Feb. 15. One of the earliest New England schools out of the blocks. Castleton State is also down in Texas for a few games, they are coming off a terrific year and almost everyone is back.

Bates, won 25 games last year ;D, most by far in the team`s history (had never reached 20 before), additional evidence that D3 baseball in New England is getting more and more competitive. Had wins against Tufts and Trinity among others. Very few teams left in N.E. where you can just throw your glove out on the field and expect to win.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 22, 2011, 08:54:46 PM
The Texas swing will be good for Bates.

Of the 3, UT-Dallas is probably the strongest, then Austin College and finally University of Dallas.

Picking up 2 wins will be a good road trip.

Weather today in north Texas was beautiful!  High 60's with very little wind today.  Low 70's tomorrow.

Great Spring baseball weather.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 27, 2011, 07:52:41 PM
Well Ralph, Bates did just that and picked up two wins and three of their four losses were by two runs or less.  Not a bad trip for the Bobcats.

Here's a recap of what has happened so far in New England this year, including ECSU's 5-3 loss to Kean today.

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on February 28, 2011, 10:29:53 AM
Not the start Castleton would have liked, but they did play very tough competition.

Odd to see an Eastern lineup without Castillo, seems like first time in about 10 years. Also amazing that Kean has two complete games at this point, I`d keep an eye on those pitchers over the next month or so - seems very risky to be throwing that much this early.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 28, 2011, 10:38:25 AM
Zoneit-

I said the same thing over on the LEC board about this.  Eastern pulled Schult after 3 innings and 2 runs.  Now i wonder if he was pulled on a pitch count or if the staff felt that it was the right time to make a pitching change.  Kean threw the kid the whole game, now i saw the box score and he walked like 2 and struck out 10 in 9 innings.  Strike outs are good but rack up the ole pitcher counter pretty fast.  That means he at least threw 38 pitches for those 10 k's and 2 bb's.  And that is if he threw the min which never happens.  More likely he was looking at 50-55 pitches on those alone.  10 k's is 3.3 innings.  I cant see a way this kid did not throw over 110 pitches for a complete game. I know it was close at 5-3 but i mean isnt what your bullpen is for? 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on February 28, 2011, 11:56:08 AM
Yeah, KSC, box score on Kean website says he faced 34 batters including 10ks so I`d guess he was well above 110. In February no less. Watch how they are handling the major leaguers in Florida over the next few weeks, and also see how the Kean starters are doing in a few weeks. Hopefully fine, but it is risky. Looks like Holowaty was splitting up the game among a few pitchers which is a smart thing to do at this point. You want your pitchers healthy in May, and a loss in February is a small price to pay.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 28, 2011, 12:41:22 PM
Does the fact that Kean wanted a win over a nationally ranked team like eastern have something to do with it?   According to Mapquest Union NJ(kean) and Mansfield CT (Eastern) are about 163 miles apart.  That means that this would qualify as a region game for the both of them.  (using the info provided by someone that an a game counts for in-region if the schools are less than 200 miles apart i think it was osh-dude).

Was Kean looking at this game as a chance to get a "quality" win under the belt.  A win over a #24 national ranked Eastern and a get a quality in region win??  Maybe they felt that his was a win that might get them somewhere come may if they need it?  Maybe they felt that beating a good team like eastern might build confidence.  I dont know... Who knows maybe the kid has been building arm strength and what not, but seems risky none the less.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on February 28, 2011, 01:21:27 PM
Good points, all that stuff factors into it. People will have to judge whether they think it makes sense or not to go that route, there will be differences of opinion. Personally I think going beyond 80-85 pitches the first time out is asking for trouble. I recognize it takes discipline to live by that when your horse is cruising against a big time program. The pitcher will never want to come out but a coach has to think about the bigger picture, both for his team and the kid. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 28, 2011, 02:07:14 PM
My two cents on it-

If this game was may, or even mid april after the pitcher has had 4 to 5 outings under his belt than i dont see a problem with it.  It is just tough to see a kid throw that many pitches this early in the year.  You dont see Beckett, or Lester throwing at 120 in April very often.  Im sure that the staff knows what they are doing, but i personally would of taken a different approach.  Why not let the closer get a chance at it?  I know the player prob says that he is fine and has got the ninth but as the coach i think you go to the pen in the 9th.  It could be a chance for your closer to get some confidence under his belt. 

I looked at Kean's schedule and they dont start NJAC conference play until april when they open up with College of New Jersey.  I guess it comes down to what school of pitching you belong to....

1.  That the arm only has so many pitches in it or
2. The nolan ryan throw and throw and throw to build strength.

Love the fact that New England teams are out playing games in Febuary!!  Cant wait till teams get back from down south so i can spend my afternoons rushing out of work to go watch games!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 28, 2011, 10:14:55 PM
One thing that could be overlooked is that they might have gotten outside a lot earlier than most because they are farther south and/or they have developed an offseason pitching program that allows kids to come into spring ball ready to go.

I can't say I agree with the idea but it is quite scary to think they might have three or four kids that can go the distance on any given day.  Still need to develop a bullpen though!

As for Eastern, this is what usually happens early on in the season.  Most pitchers have a pitch limit and/or an inning limit in the early goings.  Later in the season and probably even in his next start Schult would be out there on the hill for the next two or three innings.  As we saw yesterday, the biggest problem ECSU will have this year is their pitching.  They need to develop a quality relief corps that can come in and maintain leads.  You can't, even at this point in the season, blow a lead against a quality opponent.  A good lesson to learn early on.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 01, 2011, 06:04:24 PM
Started a new segment on my blog called "New England's Finest."  I am going to go position by position and look at the best players at each position in the region.

I started today with the first basemen.  I know I probably missed some but that's where you guys can help out and start a good discussion!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on March 01, 2011, 07:44:25 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 01, 2011, 06:04:24 PM
Started a new segment on my blog called "New England's Finest."  I am going to go position by position and look at the best players at each position in the region.

I started today with the first basemen.  I know I probably missed some but that's where you guys can help out and start a good discussion!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Hobbesy:
Great idea and great start.  Nice to have this available to start some discussions. Looking forward to further installments.


To add my 2 cents to the complete game discusion.  I think kids should be throwing more in general but February seems a little early to be stretched out enough to go complete., especially playing in NJ.  That must be some off season throwing program.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 03, 2011, 08:04:34 PM
Stump-

Thank you!

Second installment is complete and posted on the site!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: GBearsAlum15 on March 04, 2011, 07:51:39 PM
Today marked opening day for a few teams, it's good to be back. The Farmingdale tournament started today with two of the stronger teams in New England, WNEC and Keene St in action. WNEC took care of business in the first game of the day, taking down host Farmingdale St. 9-2 behind a solid pitching performance from Matt Rogers. Fatse, Rubino, and Taylor led the way offensively in an otherwise quiet day for the bats because of walks and errors. As for Keene St, they are about to close out St. Joseph's (LI), as they are up 6-0 in the 9th. Crutcher and Pelkey are putting together a dominant pitching performance, along with the usual offensive firepower from Doyon and Co. Is this kid Crutcher a transfer? (I'm sure you KSC fans can tell me) If Keene St can have consistent pitching then they can be a very dangerous team all year. These two teams meet on Sunday to finish up the weekend tournament. It should be a solid game and a great opportunity for one of these two teams to get an early quality regional win. What are everyone's thoughts about WNEC and Keene St and what do you think will happen on Sunday?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Wally on March 04, 2011, 08:04:52 PM
Crutcher is from Londenderry NH. Transfered to KSC from SNHU. Strange thing is, I don't remember him pitching in high school? Nice start for the Owls. Great find for Coaches Howe and Testo.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 05, 2011, 01:30:42 PM
Two great pitching performances from WNEC and Keene St.!

Dare I say that New England baseball is finally here!? The unofficial opening weekend!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on March 05, 2011, 10:43:27 PM
WNEC and Eastern with solid wins today, WNEC goes to 2-0. Good early season matchup Sunday, Keene versus WNEC, Keene dropped one today to fall to 1-1.

Castleton drops third in a row to the Apprentice School, never heard of them before (from Virginia) but they must be good. Drops them to 0-7,  :(
also will be sitting on that for a couple of weeks at least, not scheduled to go again until March 20. Taking a chance playing southern schools who obviously have an advantage in the early going, don`t see too many northern teams doing that any more. Possibly their vacation schedule  limited their options .

Most teams are fortunate to have very little time between the end of their southern trip and the start of the northern season. However, will all the snow mess up the early New England schedule? It generally seems like things clear up in time, but I know there have been exceptions to that, and unfortunately this may be one of those years. Hopefully not.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on March 08, 2011, 11:45:20 AM
Wesleyan off to a great start, 4-0, and I am sure that they will be formidable. But to keep it in perspective, their competition thus far couldn`t be much worse. The two teams, Southern Vermont and Presentation, are a combined 0-11. Ignoring the games against Wesleyan, those two teams have been outscored by a total of 81-24.
Top pitcher Yarusi hasn`t thrown yet, my guess is they are holding him back for a tougher opponent. If he doesn`t go today, though, have to ask why not.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 08, 2011, 01:01:12 PM
zoneit-

They did the same thing last year...started 9-0 against subpar competition and then dropped their next five games to teams that are pretty good.

Yarusi has pitched...2 ip 5 hits 6 runs 1 er 1 bb 1 so against Southern Vermont in the 16-13 victory

Not the best start to the season for him
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Tarheel0550 on March 08, 2011, 01:48:35 PM
I hope they didnt hold him just for Southern Vermont ha ha. SVC will be lucky to win 5 games this year.Team ba .225 record 0-7 just a terrible team.The only bright spot they had the last two years was thier catcher E Wells and must be he saw the light because he transferred to Oneonta St.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on March 08, 2011, 03:46:16 PM
Hobbsey, you are the man, love your website. Also nice that the "national" D3.com website is vastly improved and really good this year as well.

We may be getting different info - box score on the Wesleyan website gives that line to Dan Thomsen, not Yarusi. By the way, their hitting stats so far are sick, .472 team average, 8 regulars hitting .455 or better. But of 67 hits, only four home runs, three by Sonnenfeld who could probably hit one out with a shovel. So, strange as it may sound, it may have been worse if this was 2010.   
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 08, 2011, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 08, 2011, 01:01:12 PM
zoneit-

They did the same thing last year...started 9-0 against subpar competition and then dropped their next five games to teams that are pretty good.

Yarusi has pitched...2 ip 5 hits 6 runs 1 er 1 bb 1 so against Southern Vermont in the 16-13 victory

Not the best start to the season for him


Ahh Wesleyan...I always figured the ball teams ran out of steam, as it were, because of what they call WestCo...otherwise known as the Naked Dorm! Where clothing in this co-ed dorm is optional......

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/03/18/nyregion/naked-dorm-that-wasn-t-in-the-brochure.html
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 09, 2011, 07:28:55 AM
Zoneit-

I found that line in the boxscore on the SVC website so I can imagine that it possibly could have been a mistake.  I was really surprised to see him with that kind of outing so you're information is probably right.

And thanks, I'm glad I am able to contribute something with the website!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 09, 2011, 11:54:28 AM
Colby Sawyer off to a hot start at 4-1 along with Wesleyan at 4-0

The rest of New England heads south here pretty quick.  Looking forward to blowing off work and watching live stats online!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 10, 2011, 01:38:40 PM
Sorry for the delay in the third installment but here is my look at New England's best third basemen--

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)


Tough to choose four because it's tough to find a good third basemen.  Haugh was the only one off the top of my head.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on March 10, 2011, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 10, 2011, 01:38:40 PM
Sorry for the delay in the third installment but here is my look at New England's best third basemen--

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)


Tough to choose four because it's tough to find a good third basemen.  Haugh was the only one off the top of my head.
I like your point that defense may improve a little with a little less velocity coming off the bats.

Speaking of bats: Have you heard that DI schools are heating the new bats supposedly to give more pop?  I guess you could see something like that coming to try to gain some advantage.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Tarheel0550 on March 11, 2011, 11:01:40 AM
Quote from: Stump on March 10, 2011, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 10, 2011, 01:38:40 PM
Sorry for the delay in the third installment but here is my look at New England's best third basemen--

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)


Tough to choose four because it's tough to find a good third basemen.  Haugh was the only one off the top of my head.
I like your point that defense may improve a little with a little less velocity coming off the bats.

Speaking of bats: Have you heard that DI schools are heating the new bats supposedly to give more pop?  I guess you could see something like that coming to try to gain some advantage.
Stump< Bat heating has been around for quite some time My travel team has been doing it for years and they even sell covers that you microwave to keep bats warm.That being said,I dont think it ever gave us that big of an advantage it just helped to keep the bats from denting and cracking when the boys were playing in colder climates.But,I am also no scientist so if it works either on the bat or even mentally Until its banned I say go for it.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 14, 2011, 06:47:17 PM
Fourth installment of "New England's Finest"

This one looks at the top shortstops in the region

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: mainebaseball11 on March 14, 2011, 08:12:01 PM
Great Job with the Shortstops. One change is that Pisani for Southern Maine is only a Junior
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on March 17, 2011, 10:35:58 PM
Early observations:
Biggest surprise so far: UMB and St. Joes starts in Fl. Both seem unable to get the clutch hit or avoid the error at the worst time. Beacons are batting .261 and 17 errors in 8 games. Monks hitting .262 and 12 errors including 2 by the pitcher on back to back plays against Wheaton leading to a five run inning in a 6-1 loss.  They are both losing close games so you assume they will both come out of their early season funk.  St. Joes would seem to have a little advantage as they move along, they are in a much weaker conference.  UMB still has to face the LEC conference schedule plus they play all the better teams in the GNAC(Suffolk, St. Joes, J&W, Lasell probably the top 4 in GNAC) St. Joes faces UMB, has already lost to KSC, and 2 games with USM(a great local rivalry!!!) A long road for both to get back to the Regionals if they don't shake off the winter rust quickly.

second biggest surprise: big 2 returning hitters for Monks are collectively not hitting their weight.  Again both should come out of it but these are slumps they have never seen.

third biggest surprise: I don't think anybody has lost a game to weather in Fl. this spring. Let's hope that continues as the teams all come North and begin the season in earnest.  Good luck to all and bring on the baseball!!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Wally on March 18, 2011, 06:45:24 PM
Another solid win for Keene. UMB gets back on track. And St. Joe's about to go 2-7. Good to see KSC's pitching coming together. Nice job by the coaching staff to mix and match to get the most out of the staff and hopefully come home saturday 7-2? See you saturday boys!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 19, 2011, 08:25:07 PM
MIT sweeps Wheaton 1-0 and 5-3

I have watched MIT twice this season and I must say I am very impressed by this team.  They are not effected by the new bats because they dont have much power and they pitch extremely well.  They do everything right and play the game the way it is suppose to be played
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on March 19, 2011, 09:38:44 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 19, 2011, 08:25:07 PM
MIT sweeps Wheaton 1-0 and 5-3

I have watched MIT twice this season and I must say I am very impressed by this team.  They are not effected by the new bats because they dont have much power and they pitch extremely well.  They do everything right and play the game the way it is suppose to be played
Quote
The new bats do seem to be working as advertised.  I haven't seen any games yet but from live stats, box scores and game summaries, the numbers look a lot more like wood bat numbers.  Power numbers are definitely down and averages seem to be also.  I'd be interested in what people who have actually seen games think.  I heard some players complain about the balance but I don't know if this is from kids who have only used the old metal all their life and not wood or what. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 20, 2011, 11:39:01 AM
MIT completes the sweep of Wheaton with a 9-5 victory today.

Engineers roughed up Corr for 6 runs on 11 hits.

MIT now 6-1, 3-0 and Wheaton falls to 4-4, 0-3...is that a first???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 20, 2011, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 20, 2011, 11:39:01 AM
MIT completes the sweep of Wheaton with a 9-5 victory today.

Engineers roughed up Corr for 6 runs on 11 hits.

MIT now 6-1, 3-0 and Wheaton falls to 4-4, 0-3...is that a first???

An the Wheaties will STILL be ranked in the Top 25 nationally next week  :D

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: BigPoppa on March 20, 2011, 10:25:01 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on March 20, 2011, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 20, 2011, 11:39:01 AM
MIT completes the sweep of Wheaton with a 9-5 victory today.

Engineers roughed up Corr for 6 runs on 11 hits.

MIT now 6-1, 3-0 and Wheaton falls to 4-4, 0-3...is that a first???

An the Wheaties will STILL be ranked in the Top 25 nationally next week  :D

Word
Don't blame me... I didn't vote for them at all this season.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 21, 2011, 06:28:37 PM
Trying something new today with Conference Call...

Hope you guys like it!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on March 21, 2011, 07:43:26 PM
Hey Hobbesy,

Key to any good publication is keeping it "fresh" so to speak!!  Nice Job with the Conference Call, and the cool play on words!!!  

Re ECSU in first 8 games you can say freshman ss Danny O'Connell BA -.480, FP -1.000 and Junior RHP Jim Dimon ERA- 2.42 W/L- 2-0, 16 SO in 22.1 inning have been two standouts and will be impact players for the Warriors over the next couple years!!  I think after Andrew Dewings big hit vs Hopkins, he is starting to come out of his batting slump. Shult fantastic as always both at the plate and on the mound.  Also looking for standout years from OF Robert Perry, 3B Tyler Turgeon and OF Joe Cousineau!!!

I feel ECSU's defense may be the best in quite a few years, hoping to see their FP in the .970's
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on March 21, 2011, 09:47:58 PM
Hobbesy,
I also like the play on words!  Nice first effort on Conference Call!
Now if you can do something about the weather ;) :P
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 22, 2011, 07:28:02 AM
Hobbsey great job man, love the conference break down. Anyone know when the next NE poll comes out?  Anyone want to throw one out there.....

1. Keene State 8-2 Offense has been impressive but owl fans love to see the pitching going to work for them. 
2. Eastern CT 6-2 I thought Eastern was suppoused to be down this year?  Next joke, eastern looks good.
3. Bowdoin 7-2 Wins over Umass Boston, Farmingdale, looking strong so far
4. Suffolk- Looking to give St Joes a run for its money in GNAC
5. WNEC-
6. Southern Maine- Some quality wins, certainly are swinging it
7?
8?

I know its early but what am i missing.  WHo did i snub?  No one in the MASCAC looks to be out to a strong start.  Looking forward to some awesome cold march baseball this week!  Remember cold march baseball is better than no baseball
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 22, 2011, 11:27:46 AM
Thanks guys!

I just added the last four conferences this morning

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)

As far as a poll:

1. Tufts 2-1: think the Jumbos get the top nod this early on in the season
2. Keene St 8-2: off to a great start and if pitching can keep pitching, look out
3. MIT 7-1: winners of 7 straight, including sweep of Wheaton
4. Babson 9-2: Aizenstadt and Ahern, Ahern and Aizenstadt...LEGIT
5. Eastern CT 7-2: 6-2 start is good but unsure of competition
6. Bowdoin 7-3: good start for the Polar Bears
7. WNEC 6-4: not the best start but acceptable
8. USM 5-4: They can score.  Can they pitch??
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on March 22, 2011, 04:16:09 PM
I saw a lot of games in Florida last week, came away with the impression (shared by a number of players) that the new bats are somewhere between the old metal bats and wood. I haven`t figured out which it is closer to yet. I saw slugfests and pitchers shut down opponents. Bad pitching will still fare poorly. These are some other random thoughts and observations:

Pitchers will still pay for their mistakes, but pitchers that keep it out of the middle of the plate and keep walks to a minimum will benefit greatly, more so than with the old metal bats. This is because there will not be as many extra base hits or "cheap" hits off the handle or the end of the bat. A pitcher who gives up two hits in an inning but no walks is likely to get out of the inning with no runs.  Teams that work long counts, take walks, run aggressively and bunt well will have a greater advantage than before. Big innings will tend to feature walks and singles in a row although there will still be some bases clearing bombs.

Infield play will improve because ground balls are definitely not attacking the infielders with the same speed as before. However, middle infielders will need to learn to charge the ball better, I think they are used to backing up on hard hit balls and getting the second hop rather than charging for the first hop or short hop. Many extra base hits from last year are now line drives or fly balls to the outfield. The game will be "better", but I would still much prefer wood.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 22, 2011, 04:42:55 PM
Welcome to the boards, Zoneit!
Thanks for the comments.

+1!  :)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on March 22, 2011, 05:20:43 PM
Zoneit,
Good comments.  Those are the impressions I am getting from reading box scores and game summaries. (stuck here in NE with the winter that won't go away)  Especially like the observation that infield play should be better.  I see it wood bat summer leagues, middle infielders(especially shortstops) don't know how to charge the ball because they have always played against metal bats. 

Thanks for the input.  Looking forward to seeing some ball soon.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 26, 2011, 07:09:20 PM
Spent the afternoon at MIT watching MIT-Babson DH.

Some great baseball was played with MIT sweeping the Beavers.

My thoughts and some postgame interviews are up!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 28, 2011, 11:18:09 PM
First NEIBA poll released

http://nutmeg.easternct.edu/mt-static/athletics/NEIBA%20Polls%202011%20-%20March%2028%20-%20Week%201.pdf (http://nutmeg.easternct.edu/mt-static/athletics/NEIBA%20Polls%202011%20-%20March%2028%20-%20Week%201.pdf)

Eastern CT
MIT
Keene
Babson
Williams
WNEC
Bowdoin
USM
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 29, 2011, 07:34:12 AM
I think that poll is pretty right on in my opinion.  I dont know if i would of put Eastern first, but at this point in the season it doesnt really matter.  It means more to us bloggers than it does to the teams at this point.  When was the last time you didnt see Wheaton on the list?  Husson getting some votes was good as well.

Couple of games this week among top teams

Keene and WNEC on thursday
Babson and Wheaton on Friday
MIT and WPI today
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on March 31, 2011, 10:50:45 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on March 29, 2011, 07:34:12 AM
I think that poll is pretty right on in my opinion.  I dont know if i would of put Eastern first, but at this point in the season it doesnt really matter.  It means more to us bloggers than it does to the teams at this point.  When was the last time you didnt see Wheaton on the list?  Husson getting some votes was good as well.

Couple of games this week among top teams

Keene and WNEC on thursday
Babson and Wheaton on Friday
MIT and WPI today


If Eastern was 12-3 vs teams like Cortland St, JHU, Kean, Salisbury etc etc, , ECSU's first place showing would be justified.
But they have played a relatively weak first 15 game schedule, so I may have to agree with KSCFan

Does SOS get taken into consideration on these polls?

However, polls are just that, and as I have stated in the past, it is the end result that counts!!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 05, 2011, 04:49:10 PM
HobbesyBaby's Channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/HobbesyBaby
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 07, 2011, 09:54:44 PM
Hey guys,

Sorry about the intermittent posts.  Its been a busy week for me.  Here's my latest conference call with a look around the region.

Lot of excitement and a lot of good games going on!!

This weekend should be a very exciting one!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 13, 2011, 10:18:35 AM
Western New England's DiTommaso Garners National Pitcher of the Week Award

http://www.thecommonwealthcoastconference.com/news/2011/4/9/BB_0409113222.aspx


Word

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on April 14, 2011, 09:17:45 PM
ESPN's John Brenkus has a pretty good video from Sport Science about the new NCAA bats...check it out..

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6355789&categoryid=2378529
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 15, 2011, 02:03:46 PM
Guys,

Found a great tool that is really fun to play around with and look through.  

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary?sportCode=MBA (http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary?sportCode=MBA)


Click on the division 3 tab and then select the most recent date. Using the tabs at the top you can choose what teams you look at stat-wise.  The one I found most interesting was the one where you can select the entire New England region and see where all the teams stack up compared to each other and the rest of the nation.

This should spur some interesting discussions like the fact that Mitchell's John Apostolo is having a MONSTER year!

I should have a new Conference Call up by the end of the day as well
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 15, 2011, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 15, 2011, 02:03:46 PM
Guys,

Found a great tool that is really fun to play around with and look through.  

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary?sportCode=MBA (http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary?sportCode=MBA)


Click on the division 3 tab and then select the most recent date. Using the tabs at the top you can choose what teams you look at stat-wise.  The one I found most interesting was the one where you can select the entire New England region and see where all the teams stack up compared to each other and the rest of the nation.

This should spur some interesting discussions like the fact that Mitchell's John Apostolo is having a MONSTER year!

I should have a new Conference Call up by the end of the day as well

Hobbesy,

Been to this site quite a bit but I guess I did'nt realize you could do the Conference, and Regional comparisons!!  cool.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on April 16, 2011, 09:50:55 AM
Great site, thanks for pointing it out!

Interesting things going on in the NESCAC. Tufts is dominating the East, no real surprise there, but big doubleheader Trinity/Bowdoin at Bowdoin today. Trin dropped close one yesterday and can`t afford a bad day today since only two from each division go to league tourney. Trin in danger of not making it. They seem to have a lot of trouble scoring runs. Also, Bates has been surprisingly mediocre.

Wesleyan is at Middlebury for two today and probably needs a sweep to stay in contention, although that is a tall order. Their pitching seems questionable; also, offensive stats pretty impressive but bulk of that work done against mediocre competition in Arizona and against Hamilton, haven`t hit up north at all (other than against Hamilton).

Amherst took two of three from Middlebury last weekend and is at Hamilton for two today, and not sweeping there would be big news. Won yesterday 11-0. Jeffs still have three with Williams (who was swept by Midd) and Wesleyan, could use some help from Wesleyan today to put some distance from Midd. Amherst does have the tiebreaker with Midd, though. West winner gets to host the NESCAC tourney so it is a big deal finishing number one.

Amherst has kind of flown under the radar this year but they are a very solid team, with wins over Mass Boston, USM, Endicott (split DH), Worcester State (split DH), Oneonta, Westfield, Bowdoin (2), Castleton, 2 of 3 from Midd. Good hitting lineup top to bottom, defense generally good and a deep pitching staff.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 22, 2011, 11:08:32 AM
In this weeks conference call I take a look at some of the surprise teams around the region.

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)

Also, any thoughts on the NEWMAC tournament???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on April 25, 2011, 01:21:16 PM
Recent New York Times article cites study done at Division I level - average team scoring 5.63 runs and hitting 0.47 home runs, versus 6.98 runs and 0.85 home runs at a comparable point last season.

Batting averages down to .279 from .301; ERA down to 4.62 from 5.83; 444 shutouts versus 277 last year at this point.

Certainly anyone who has followed Division III this year will recognize comparable trends. My sense, without studying the numbers too closely, is that the better teams are still hitting for high averages but that the extra base hits, esp. homers, are down significantly.

A WAC commissioner was quoted as saying that "those of us on the rules committee prefer to look at it as if the game is being played more like it was prior to the advent of aluminum bats."

Which makes you wonder - why not just go to wood? Are we really that concerned with bat manufacturer profitability? ???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: forheavendial4999 on April 25, 2011, 06:57:41 PM
Because that guy's a tard.

Real wood would result in MUCH lower scoring than even now.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 03, 2011, 09:30:50 AM
See where the Jumbos went into Holywater-Land and smacked around TEE. Egads another strong Beantown team!

Translation: Tufts traveled to Eastern Connecticut and defeated the Warriors last night. Big win for Tufts.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 03, 2011, 09:41:02 AM
Word shouldnt that be a Jumbo size win for Tufts...... sorry couldnt help myself
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 03, 2011, 12:26:22 PM
Jumbos might just have all the cards to not only win the NCAA NE Regional, (Closer to home in Cape Cod), but make a LOT of noise in Wisconsin!!! Another class coach and program.  2002 and 2010 were the last two years Tufts made the NCAA NE Regionals losing to UMB last year and the Evil Empire in 2002 when TEE won their last D-III National
Championship.  ECSU bopped the Jumbos 19-5 in 2010 and 8-4 (2009), during regular season.  Eastern then lost 3-0 in the 2010 NCAA Regionals.

LEC Tourney will again be interesting this year!! No real dominant team. And ,as all LEC teams except Plymouth St are in or around .500 W/L or better, a team that gets hot in the tourney could win the thing.

Recently ECSU's bullpen, and in some cases starting pitching has been a little shaky, but offensively they are still explosive, with Jim Shult havng a massive year on mound, ( 3.43 in 63 inn), and at the plate hitting .429, with 9 HR and 50 RBI.  I can see him possibly being picked in the MLB draft this year.  Freshman ss Dan O'Connell has been terrific, batting .349 and playing well defensively.   Jr OF/C Cammusso, Sr OF Perry and Sr 3B/1B Turgeon are having excellent years at the plate.  Solid pitching from So Andrew Merritt (3.07 in 29 inn), Jr Jim Dimon, ( 3.92 in 59 inn), and So Matt Purnell, (2.95 in 21 inn), together with Jim Shult, give the Warriors a good shot at taking the LEC tournament and punch their ticket to another NCAA NE Regional.  But... you never know in this conference 8-)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: gap to gap on May 07, 2011, 08:08:29 PM
Eastern running through the LEC but unable to grab any more signature wins going 2-2, takes 2 from Keene but that was sandwiched between 2 nescac loses (Tufts, Amherst). 

Tufts beats eastern and as usual didn't play a whole lot of baseball the rest of the week.

Amherst 2-0 week (Brandeis Eastern) and plays 2 in Maine tomorrow (USM and Bates) should be a good test for Amherst.  A good chance to get one more somewhat quality regional win for the resume.

WNEC in the middle of the CCC tournament sits at 4-1 on the week must take 2 agasint a good Endicott team tomorrow.

That all being said 2 or 3 of these teams could be up for an atlarge.  Assuming LEC goes to Keene or Eastern and the Nescac to Tufts or Amherst.  With a tough day tomorrow WNEC could be leaving it up to the committee.  Peoples thoughts on what teams could be in?

I think something needs to be said for winning 35 regional games despite the weaker conference.  Eastern should win the Little East but really has not made a good case for themselves lately. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on May 12, 2011, 09:26:21 AM
ECSU upset by RIC, road to the LEC champiohship will be a long one. They have been playing so-so lately, not sure they can do it. Keene has to be the favorite now.

So we have Saint Joe`s, WNEC, Husson, Bridgewater, Wheaton and Mitchell already in. LEC and NESCAC to be decided. What about at large bids - does anyone know how that might work? With 8 automatic bids, I assume that the extra ones would come, if at all, from the (weak) N.Y. region. Would at large teams automatically go to N.Y. or is it possible an auto qualifier could be shipped? How many might be available?

Giving NECC (Mitchell) an automatic bid is unfortunate. Mitchell is 23-9 but hard to find any quality wins there, perhaps Wentworth. Maybe they will make me eat my words with a decent showing, we`ll see.

At large candidates - ECSU, Keene, Tufts, Amherst, Bowdoin, MIT, Babson, possibly Endicott - the first five still could get auto bid - am I missing anyone?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 12, 2011, 10:52:51 AM
Zoneit,

Well stated, +1 for the analysis
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: gap to gap on May 12, 2011, 02:09:11 PM
I think the only 2 who can get an at-large are Tufts or Amherst.  The Little East has played themselves out of 2 bids and with one more AQ from NE it may be tough to get 2.  Eastern has played very poorly of late and keene has an uphill battle in the rankings.  I don't think can climb without playing and Endicott is in the ECAC so does that eliminate them automatically?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on May 12, 2011, 04:22:17 PM
Good question re Endicott, don`t know. Anyone? Anyone? ???

Amherst and Tufts have both had remarkable seasons. The NESCAC tournament begins tomorrow and should be very special. It is Amherst/Bowdoin and Tufts/Middlebury in the first round of the double elimination tourney. As good as Amherst and Tufts are, they better not take Bowdoin or Middlebury for granted. Any one of these four teams could capably represent the NESCAC in Harwich.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wildthngvaughn on May 12, 2011, 04:47:42 PM
No Gap to Gap, being in the ECAC's does not automatically eliminate you from the NCAA, in fact it does just the opposite.  The ECAC's is a place where borderline at-large teams can pick up 3 wins against higher quality opponents.  A couple years ago WPI was probably going to be on the outside looking in on the NCAA tournament.  They swept through the ECAC tournament and earned one of the last at-large bids to the NCAA's.  Brandeis did a similar thing a few years before that.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on May 12, 2011, 05:02:35 PM
Thanks for that info, wildthngvaughn.  ;D

Endicott with 31 wins, if that ends up being 33 incl. ECAC title they will have a story to tell. If not, those twin 5-4 losses to WNEC will not soon be forgotten by the Gulls.

The problem with at large bids for NESCAC teams is that they generally play fewer games than most other leagues, so their win totals are less. But I agree that this year if Amherst or Tufts wins tourney, the other stands a very good shot at an at large bid unless they completely collapse in the NESCAC tourney. ECSU has the big rep though, plus 30+ wins, so if they are in the discussion, who knows even though Tufts and Amherst both beat ECSU head to head.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on May 12, 2011, 05:42:40 PM
I believe the key elements for selection to the tournament as a B or C pick are in-region record, strength of schedule, and opponents strength of schedule. Even though it is hard to believe it it is not based on whims and fancies.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wildthngvaughn on May 12, 2011, 06:05:33 PM
There is a chance that 0 teams get at-large bids in New England.  With Messiah winning the MACC conference, Alvernia (33-7) will probably be getting an at-large bid in the Mid-Atlantic along with atleast 1 NJAC team (most likely Rowan).  That pretty much fills up that region unless the selection committee ships a mid-atlantic team to the South like they have with Johns Hopkins.  Now in the New York region, Brockport State is ranked #2.  I would have to assume that they are going to get an at-large bid.  With the addition of the automatic bids for the NEAC a couple years ago and the NECC this year, at-large bids in New England are going to be hard to come by.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on May 12, 2011, 06:13:16 PM
Wow. That makes a lot of sense but is not what many New Englanders will want to hear.  >:(

RIC wins second in a row, maybe they will be the 2011 version of the Beacons! ;)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: gap to gap on May 12, 2011, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: zoneit on May 12, 2011, 05:02:35 PM
Thanks for that info, wildthngvaughn.  ;D

Endicott with 31 wins, if that ends up being 33 incl. ECAC title they will have a story to tell. If not, those twin 5-4 losses to WNEC will not soon be forgotten by the Gulls.

The problem with at large bids for NESCAC teams is that they generally play fewer games than most other leagues, so their win totals are less. But I agree that this year if Amherst or Tufts wins tourney, the other stands a very good shot at an at large bid unless they completely collapse in the NESCAC tourney. ECSU has the big rep though, plus 30+ wins, so if they are in the discussion, who knows even though Tufts and Amherst both beat ECSU head to head.

That actually works to a NESCAC teams favor as it is not wins but winning percentage.  Tufts has only played 18 in region games but a 16-2 winning percentage is very high.  Amherst has played more in region games but still 24-7 is very good.  Also becasue they look at opponents and opponents winning percentage when you only play each other those numbers are going to be inflated.  Not saying that they aren't good teams but it would be interesting to see what they would do in a schedule like Wheaton, or a LEC schedule where you see good team after good team.  Hell even WNEC who has to play some weaker teams in league goes out and plays 6 or 7 games a week.  I dont know that NESCAC teams could hold up in that situation.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rob on May 12, 2011, 09:44:54 PM
If you're going to pick one over the other, Tufts has a better in-region record and SOS.  Is also Nationally ranked and obviously ranked better regionally.(#1)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 13, 2011, 07:18:38 AM
I would like to think that the NCAA would reward the teams that have played a tougher schedule, and more games when it comes to the at-large bids.  I just dont see how it would be fair to give Tufts the at large, or Amherst the at large over another team from the LEC that has played way more games than a NESCAC team.  Lets say Eastern and Tufts dont win thier league tournaments.  Why should Tufts be rewarded over Eastern, when Easterns Strength of Schedule is better, they have played more games, and have a similar record?? 

I guess it boils down to just win, and you dont have to play this game!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 13, 2011, 07:47:47 AM
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on May 12, 2011, 06:05:33 PM
There is a chance that 0 teams get at-large bids in New England.  With Messiah winning the MACC conference, Alvernia (33-7) will probably be getting an at-large bid in the Mid-Atlantic along with atleast 1 NJAC team (most likely Rowan).  That pretty much fills up that region unless the selection committee ships a mid-atlantic team to the South like they have with Johns Hopkins.  Now in the New York region, Brockport State is ranked #2.  I would have to assume that they are going to get an at-large bid.  With the addition of the automatic bids for the NEAC a couple years ago and the NECC this year, at-large bids in New England are going to be hard to come by.

At-large bids are not limited regionally.  The "bids" that the NEAC and the NECC recently gained came from the mathematical allocated formula for Pool B.  When those schools move from Pool B to Pool A, they actually helped to increase the number of Pool C bids, by an amount less than 1.00.

Pool C bids ultimately are determined by how many bids that the NCAA can afford to fund for the playoffs.  How many go to New England Region schools will be determined by the criteria that are in the Handbook.  See the FAQ on the front page of D3baseball.com.  :)

I project the New England Region to get 2 of the 15 Pool C bids.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: gap to gap on May 13, 2011, 08:55:35 AM
KSCfan the problem is based on percentage Tufts and Amherst do play a "tough" schedule because winning percentages are so high.  Pretty ridiculous because if you look at a Keene, Wheaton, WNEC, Eastern those teams all have 2 or 3 real good arms at the top and some great closers.  If they had to play 3 games a week the damage they could do throwing someone like Schult every 3 games.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rob on May 13, 2011, 11:35:11 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 13, 2011, 07:18:38 AM
I would like to think that the NCAA would reward the teams that have played a tougher schedule, and more games when it comes to the at-large bids.  I just dont see how it would be fair to give Tufts the at large, or Amherst the at large over another team from the LEC that has played way more games than a NESCAC team.  Lets say Eastern and Tufts dont win thier league tournaments.  Why should Tufts be rewarded over Eastern, when Easterns Strength of Schedule is better, they have played more games, and have a similar record?? 

I guess it boils down to just win, and you dont have to play this game!!
If you're going to compare Tufts and Eastern I go with Eastern.  Although Tufts is ranked higher both Regionally and Nationally they just haven't played enough games to be considered.  Better SOS too but on a much smaller sample.  If they had played another 10 or so games and the stats were the same, then we could make a better comparison.  But they haven't.
Tufts over Amherst but Eastern over Tufts.  Of course assuming there are no AQ's involved.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on May 13, 2011, 01:30:56 PM
Quote from: rob on May 13, 2011, 11:35:11 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 13, 2011, 07:18:38 AM
I would like to think that the NCAA would reward the teams that have played a tougher schedule, and more games when it comes to the at-large bids.  I just dont see how it would be fair to give Tufts the at large, or Amherst the at large over another team from the LEC that has played way more games than a NESCAC team.  Lets say Eastern and Tufts dont win thier league tournaments.  Why should Tufts be rewarded over Eastern, when Easterns Strength of Schedule is better, they have played more games, and have a similar record?? 

I guess it boils down to just win, and you dont have to play this game!!
If you're going to compare Tufts and Eastern I go with Eastern.  Although Tufts is ranked higher both Regionally and Nationally they just haven't played enough games to be considered.  Better SOS too but on a much smaller sample.  If they had played another 10 or so games and the stats were the same, then we could make a better comparison.  But they haven't.
Tufts over Amherst but Eastern over Tufts.  Of course assuming there are no AQ's involved.
I guess from your perspective the fact that Tufts and Amherst both beat ECSU late in the season is irrelevant. In Amherst`s case, 11-4. Per my earlier comment, I do agree that teams that play more games get the benefit of the doubt but I wish there was a way to check who has gotten at large bids over the last five or so years to see what in fact has happened and test that. Is there any way to access that info?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: gap to gap on May 13, 2011, 02:01:21 PM
If you look at regional rankings (the only poll that means anything) Amherst and Tufts are both ahead of Eastern.  This is because they have a higher winning percentage and beat them head to head.  That is going to hurt Eastern largely.  If any conference 2 teams it is going to be the NESCAC if tufts does not win.  I just cant see Tufts falling done to the point where Eastern would pass them.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on May 16, 2011, 10:18:55 AM
Well, the field is set and surprise surprise, Eastern makes it despite mailing it in at the end of the year and in the LEC tournament.  MIT also comes out of nowhere to secure a bid, someone smarter than me is going to have to explain that one. Based upon strength of schedule and record, either Bowdoin or Amherst has a better case. Keene State can also make a strong case that they had a better year than MIT.

Looks like some eastern teams also got bumped by the likes of Buena Vista and Case Western, whose strength of schedule rankings are considerably below the contending eastern teams and records are at best comparable.

Would like to hear an explanation from someone on the selection committee as to how these lines were drawn. Pretty arbitrary, it seems to me. How about Eastern is Eastern, and we flipped coins on the others?



Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 16, 2011, 10:42:05 AM
Quote from: zoneit on May 16, 2011, 10:18:55 AM
Well, the field is set and surprise surprise, Eastern makes it despite mailing it in at the end of the year and in the LEC tournament.  MIT also comes out of nowhere to secure a bid, someone smarter than me is going to have to explain that one. Based upon strength of schedule and record, either Bowdoin or Amherst has a better case. Keene State can also make a strong case that they had a better year than MIT.

Looks like some eastern teams also got bumped by the likes of Buena Vista and Case Western, whose strength of schedule rankings are considerably below the contending eastern teams and records are at best comparable.

Would like to hear an explanation from someone on the selection committee as to how these lines were drawn. Pretty arbitrary, it seems to me. How about Eastern is Eastern, and we flipped coins on the others?

Zoneit, the SOS discussions always point out that the more teams that you can choose from to build a schedule, the higher you can get your SOS.

The most Favorable regions for the sake of a conference team trying to build a schedule that takes advantqage of SOS and games against Regionally Ranked opponents probably goes this way...

Top Group:  New England, Mid-Atlantic

Next tier:  Mideast, the northeastern part of the South Region (Capital AC, the USA South and ODAC)

Next tier:  Central, Midwest, deep South, New York


Worst place to live to get a good SOS:  West Region, by far!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on May 16, 2011, 11:43:56 AM
Fine, SOS should be important. Bowdoin was number 2 in the country in that regard, Amherst 32. MIT was 35 with a worse record than Amherst and a comparable record to Bowdoin. Buena Vista SOS was 89 and Case Western 83 . They had decent records but with that SOS, one would hope so, and in any event the records were worse than Amherst and not significantly better than Bowdoin. Keene also had a comparable record and a much better SOS than Buena Vista or Case, 43.

Go figure. The committee may want to brush up on their math skills. Under the circumstances, MIT should offer to help for free.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on May 25, 2011, 01:02:38 PM
D3 All-Amenrican teams announced today. Three teams plus honorable mention. By my count, 66 players named.

7 from New England.
>:(

Am I the only one that finds this to be unfair? Continued bias against New England ballplayers?

Congrats to WNEC on winning the region and hope they can make some noise this week. Their pitching depth is definitely going to help and the close call in the CCC tourney may have been a blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 25, 2011, 08:51:46 PM
zoneit,

no I don't think it is biased towards NE. I just think this was/is a down year for talent is the region. No one or two really dominant players or teams as in recent years.

IMHO

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 25, 2011, 11:57:08 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 25, 2011, 08:51:46 PM
zoneit,

no I don't think it is biased towards NE. I just think this was/is a down year for talent is the region. No one or two really dominant players or teams as in recent years.

IMHO

Word
The talent was down in the major conferences (NESCAC and LEC).  We saw that when the Pool C bids were given by the NCAA.

How many New England fans picked WNEC, a CCC team, to go to Wisconsin this year?  Sometimes it is good to peak in an "off year"!

I even like WNEC's first round draw.  I think that they beat Keystone, but lose to UWW on Day #2.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on May 26, 2011, 07:16:54 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 25, 2011, 11:57:08 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 25, 2011, 08:51:46 PM
zoneit,

no I don't think it is biased towards NE. I just think this was/is a down year for talent is the region. No one or two really dominant players or teams as in recent years.

IMHO

Word
The talent was down in the major conferences (NESCAC and LEC).  We saw that when the Pool C bids were given by the NCAA.

How many New England fans picked WNEC, a CCC team, to go to Wisconsin this year?  Sometimes it is good to peak in an "off year"!

I even like WNEC's first round draw.  I think that they beat Keystone, but lose to UWW on Day #2.
Shh. Don't tell any WIAC folks, but I have WNEC winning its first two. I actually have WNEC in the final three. It's probably the kiss of death for WNEC, and it's merely one idiot's prediction, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 26, 2011, 04:46:50 PM
Congratulations to Jim Shult on another honor!!!!  Amazing in that he played over 45 baseball games and at the same time was also a member of the ECSU Honors Program, (3.7 GPA) which has a very difficult academic program where an senior thesis is required!!

WILLIMANTIC, Conn. - For the fifth straight year, the Eastern Connecticut State University baseball program has been represented on the Capital One Academic All-District Baseball Team, as selected by the College Sports Information Directors of America (CoSIDA).

Evan Michaud of WNEC also made the list

see the rest of article below:

http://nutmeg.easternct.edu/mt-static/athletics/2011/05/baseball-schult-repeats-academic-honor.html

also

http://www.cosida.com/media/documents/2011/5/2011_Baseball_CO_Acad_All_District_Teams.pdf
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 26, 2011, 08:40:12 PM
See where Charlie Furbush, formerly a St. Joe's pitcher who transferred to LSU mid-career, got his first MLB win with the Tigers a couple of days ago.

http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=518703

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 27, 2011, 01:44:49 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 26, 2011, 08:40:12 PM
See where Charlie Furbush, formerly a St. Joe's pitcher who transferred to LSU mid-career, got his first MLB win with the Tigers a couple of days ago.

http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=518703

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And if you dig deeper formerly a SP Red Riot who I saw pitch many times... I wish him continued luck...I knew he would make it!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on May 27, 2011, 12:08:38 PM
 His father Craig was a pretty decent ballplayer for Amherst College early to mid seventies, also a really nice guy. Glad to see his son in the bigs!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 27, 2011, 02:28:20 PM
Quote from: zoneit on May 27, 2011, 12:08:38 PM
His father Craig was a pretty decent ballplayer for Amherst College early to mid seventies, also a really nice guy. Glad to see his son in the bigs!


And also one of my old teachers...Not my Favorite class though!!! :)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 27, 2011, 07:10:37 PM
NESN Sports spent a good deal of time interviewing Furbush tonight. Give credit to Tom Carron and NESN...he touched on Furbush's time in high school, as a Monk, how difficult it is playing in Maine, he even threw in a Sebago Lake reference.
Carron also referenced Reid and Ryan Flaherty's march to the majors.  Furbush was real solid in the interview, came across as much more mature than his years. Nice job all around.

As some one who got to see Furbush pitch quite often it is good to see him make it....no  Moonlight Graham.

Hopefully I'll find a link to post later.

Furbush is into the game tonight in the 5th.

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 27, 2011, 11:58:17 PM
WNEC loses a close one 2-1. Had the lead until fairly late but just could not convert.
:P
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 28, 2011, 08:01:01 PM
Congrats to WNEC on a historic season!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on May 30, 2011, 05:11:53 PM
WNEC did have a great year, lots to be proud of.

Before we put a wrap on the season, and at the considerable risk of sounding like sour grapes, I am still baffled as to how MIT got an at large bid over Amherst. If someone can adequately explain what I am missing, it will make me sleep better this winter. It will also educate me as to how at large bids are in fact awarded.

Records: 25 - 10 (Amherst) versus 25 - 13 (MIT)

Records versus common opponents (they did not play each other): 11 - 4 (Amherst) versus 10 -7 (MIT)

Strength of schedule: 30 (Amherst) versus 35 (MIT)

Some comments in this discussion board around second week of May suggest how objective the process is, and that it is not subject to the whims of the committee. If that is true, what are the objective criteria that were used in this case? The ones identified above were close, but Amherst came out on top in all three.

There may be other teams that were on the outside looking in that also have  compelling arguments, I happen to be most familiar with the Lord Jeffs. Bowdoin comes to mind, especially with its number one strength of schedule, although they did lose to MIT head to head.

I really think the committee has some `splainin to do here.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: gap to gap on June 01, 2011, 07:41:18 AM
Because the nescac only plays each other. Records are skewed and the committee Took that into account. But one huge factor is record against ranked opponents and that was well in favor of MIT who had 9 wins vs Amherst who may have had 2?  Make your conference finals or don't complain.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 02, 2011, 06:43:39 PM
Quote from: gap to gap on June 01, 2011, 07:41:18 AM
Because the nescac only plays each other. Records are skewed and the committee Took that into account. But one huge factor is record against ranked opponents and that was well in favor of MIT who had 9 wins vs Amherst who may have had 2?  Make your conference finals or don't complain.
That is another criterion.

I don't have the exact MIT vs Amherst "ranked opponents results info" in front of me, but if you are a New England baseball team, there is no reason why you should not have at least 10 games against at least 3 regionally ranked opponents.  Even better is 12 games against 5 teams!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: zoneit on June 19, 2011, 01:01:27 PM
I wouldn`t be too tough on Amherst for its scheduling outside of the NESCAC West. They opened with a win against UMass Boston, which won the New England region in 2010. Also played Keene State, ECSU, two with USM, 2 Endicott, 2 Worcester State, Westfield State, Oneonta, Castleton, four with Bowdoin, Bates, Brandeis, and Babson. Almost any of those teams may have been projected to be ranked in New England or New York going into 2011 - you don`t know who will be regionally ranked at the end of the year. Also, NESCAC schools are restricted in the number of dates they can play up north, I think it is 17, so it isn`t easy.

They could try (perhaps they have tried) to add Wheaton, WNEC, MIT and Tufts but that would probably involve bumping another team that in a given year could be better. Some of those teams may not be all that anxious to play Amherst.

Amherst will need to add pitching in the incoming freshman class ( I understand they have done that) and look for Shepard, who is pitching well for Vermont in the NECBL, to be dominant in 2012. Their every day lineup will be scary. Look for them to go places in 2012.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on August 16, 2011, 12:56:53 PM
Link to a great article about Keene State College Associate Head Coach Marty Testo and the difficult health issues he and his family have had with both kids. Marty is also the Head Coach of the NECBL 2011 Champion Swamp Bats.

Marty and Sarah are both great people and I hope you will enjoy this article.

http://www.sentinelsource.com/opinion/columnists/staff/gilbert/keene-couple-comes-through-battle-to-keep-their-daughter-alive/article_52c6cc48-fcab-50c2-b35e-353a5b8bf06e.html

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Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on August 22, 2011, 04:46:39 PM
Latest on Ryan DiPietro @ Shrieveport Captains:

Season                      Team                 W L ERA  G GS SHO SV   IP   SO   BB  H
2011
AA Reg Season  Shreveport-Bossier         9 5 4.71 19 19 1    0   114.2 93   37 136

and Shawn Gilblair @ Worcester Tornadoes

Season                   Team                     W L ERA  G GS SHO SV    IP  SO    BB  H

Regular 2011         Worcester                 5 5 3.99 16 16 1     0     97   80    26 92




Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on January 11, 2012, 11:50:23 AM
Hey all!

Happy New Year! Sorry for the long absence. I just posted a new story on the blog about some conference realignment this year. Feel free to check it out and comment!

Can't wait to get going again!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2012/01/11/conference-realignment-in-new-england/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2012/01/11/conference-realignment-in-new-england/)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on January 17, 2012, 02:25:05 PM
D3baseball Preseason All-American Team announced this afternoon.

Three players from New England earned recognition:

Dan Haugh (Wheaton)- First Team 3rd base

Mike Lawlor (Western New England)- Second Team pitcher

Mike Rubino (Western New England)- Honorable Mention second base

Full team here: http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2012
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on January 31, 2012, 08:59:50 AM
My New England preview has been released on d3baseball.com

Here is the link http://d3baseball.com/notables/2012/01/newengland-2012-preview

What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Rick Vaughn on February 01, 2012, 06:54:12 PM
Just posted this on the NESCAC board, but seeing that this thread gets ten times more traffic, I wanted throw it out here too. 

Baseball America's Small Colleges preview. Not too sure about the validity of this ranking, but they should be pretty good.  BA just wanted to write about AmHerst's MLB pedigree.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/season-preview/2012/2612881.html
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 03, 2012, 11:48:36 AM
I have a question.  ECSU has a 25 or so game sub varsity baseball schedule played usually from early March to early May vs  for example, UConn Avery point, and the Community Colleges in the area.  Do most other New England D-III schools have sub varsity schedules?  Is this one reason Coach Holowaty produces seasoned players every year? ie he run his own "ECSU minor league".

I really never thought about this before, but came across Easterns 2011 Sub varsity schedule,( However,do not know where the results are posted), and started to wonder.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 03, 2012, 11:54:35 AM
ECSU Alum-

Thomas just added a JV team for this spring. I think Springfield also has a junior varsity team. These teams are great for programs because it allows the freshmen and sophomores that may not see time on varsity to get at-bats and get innings on the mound. At Eastern, the JV program has been a feeder for the varsity team for a very long time. Coach says every year that kids will start on JV but could end up being a key member of the varsity team by the end of the season. Randy Re was a great example of that back in 2004. He played mostly JV and was on the roster when the starting centerfielder got hurt in the playoffs. He got the nod and ended up making the all-tournament team in the New England regional and World Series.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 03, 2012, 12:11:15 PM
Quote from: Hobbesy on February 03, 2012, 11:54:35 AM
ECSU Alum-

Thomas just added a JV team for this spring. I think Springfield also has a junior varsity team. These teams are great for programs because it allows the freshmen and sophomores that may not see time on varsity to get at-bats and get innings on the mound. At Eastern, the JV program has been a feeder for the varsity team for a very long time. Coach says every year that kids will start on JV but could end up being a key member of the varsity team by the end of the season. Randy Re was a great example of that back in 2004. He played mostly JV and was on the roster when the starting centerfielder got hurt in the playoffs. He got the nod and ended up making the all-tournament team in the New England regional and World Series.

Thanks Tristan, So I guess its the exception rather than the rule for most New England teams. In fact, I googled "USM, Keene and RIC sub varsity schedule" and come up with zilch.  Have to agree that this has to be a huge advantage for the Warriors, as Coach H can bring players "up from the minors" for, as you mentioned with Randy Re, injury purposes, or if he see a player who is generating outstanding JV stats.  Does Bob Molta ever post the JV results?  I can never find them!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on February 03, 2012, 01:05:20 PM
Keene does not have a JV team. I would imagine that when you start getting an influx of kids to your program, as well as have the cabailities to take on another team (facilities, coaches, time, money), that a JV program might make sense. As is the case with Eastern it would give the younger kids an opportunity to work on the things they need to be able to contribute on the varsity team.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 03, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
ECSU Alum-

I don't believe any results have been posted in the past. I know for sure that stats have not been posted in the time I have followed.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on February 03, 2012, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: LEC Fan on February 03, 2012, 01:05:20 PM
Keene does not have a JV team. I would imagine that when you start getting an influx of kids to your program, as well as have the cabailities to take on another team (facilities, coaches, time, money), that a JV program might make sense. As is the case with Eastern it would give the younger kids an opportunity to work on the things they need to be able to contribute on the varsity team.

Keene has experimented with a Sub-Varsity squad in years past (I am thinking 2003-2005 :-\ something like that). Played some games at Alumni Field in Keene. $$$, time, facilities, coaching, all difficult to pull off a successful venture with limited resources. What some schools do is run a larger roster of say 38 or so players and keep them engaged to see if they develop. Then pare it down come playoffs. But playing time is at a premium. After all you can only play 10 at a time.


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 04, 2012, 02:46:26 PM
Thanks to all for the feedback +1K for all
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Wally on February 04, 2012, 10:44:05 PM
So when can we expect roster's from those that haven't yet? And now that the LEC has picked the preseason favs. Any thoughts?

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on February 06, 2012, 09:13:47 AM
I am interested to see what RIC comes back with...they had a strong year last year and should be able to compete at the top again this year (that seems to be there MO...get hot and win one year then gone the next). Keene and Eastern will probably be 1 and 1A throughout the season but as always its a battle in the LEC. When is the year that Plywood St. or Western makes the jump? Keene did it awhile back and got on the USM/Eastern level (IMO)...Boston has shown signs as has RIC but what about the bottom feeders...any chance we see one of them make a run whether it be in the regular season or playoffs?...just some thoughts until March!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 07, 2012, 09:16:23 PM
Trying this prognostication stuff. Here are my preseason New England rankings. More to come in the following days.

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/prognostication-time/
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 08, 2012, 12:21:50 PM
Hobbesy,

I like your keen insight WRT ECSU 6'5" big guy, Mike Hepple.  Last year he seemed to have gained the confidence to pitch well, and if he can keep his fast ball near the strike zone, he could very well have a standout year in 2012. 

Has anyone ever looked historically at the D-III CWS to see if two New England teams could have played one another for the title??  I  briefly scanned the ncaa.com D-III CWS finalists list to see which two teams were the closest geographically.   In 1991 USM won over TCNJ, (376 miles) in 2008 Trinity over Johns Hopkins, (312 miles), in 1998 ECSU won over Montclair St, (163 miles), and in 1983 Marietta won over Otterbein , (133 miles).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 09, 2012, 04:28:50 PM
Just posted my prediction for the New England Collegiate Conference (NECC).

Tough loss for Mitchell, losing All-American John Apostolo. Not sure where he went.

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/necc-prediction-nighthawks-soar-to-first-ncaa-tournament/
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 20, 2012, 07:36:17 PM
Here isthe article about the Holowaty vs Holowaty matchup, 4 game set with ECSU vs Whitman College in Walla Walla WA starting this Friday.


http://nutmeg.easternct.edu/mt-static/athletics/2012/02/father-son-college-baseball-coaches.html
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on February 21, 2012, 05:56:25 PM
Is there any chance that the Darth Holowaty will throw the emperor over a railing to save his son, because he can feel the force following through him?  Will this bring peace to the galaxy?  And will thier be three not as good prequels in response to this?

In all seriousness a cool story, and it will be good to see Eastern start the season, and get an idea of what they have, and what kind of lineup Darth Holowaty will use.  Usually spring trips are kind of the week where coaches work out thier line up and have a good idea of what the saturday line up will look like.  This is not the spring trip, but a chance to get 4 games under the belt.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 24, 2012, 08:51:03 AM
My predictions for the NEWMAC in 2012.

I think Wheaton takes it again.

And I am still deciding whether to root for my uncle or my cousin. Tough decision.

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/newmac-prediction-lyons-grab-their-12th-title/
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 28, 2012, 02:21:54 PM
From D3 Baseball.com:

February 28, 2012

2012 Regional Playoff Sites

•Central – USA Stadium in Millington, Tenn. (Rhodes College, host)
•Mid-Atlantic – First Energy Park in Lakewood, N.J. (Kean University, host)
•Mideast – Don Schaly Stadium in Marietta, Ohio (Marietta College, host)
•Midwest – Prucha Field in Whitewater, Wis. (University of Wisconsin, Whitewater, host)
•New England – Mansfield Complex in Mansfield, Conn. (Eastern Connecticut State University, host)
•New York – Baseball Complex in Farmingdale, N.Y. (State University of New York at Farmingdale, host)
•South – Captains Park in Newport News, Va. (Christopher Newport University, host)
•West – Roy Helser Field in McMinnville, Ore. (Linfield College, host)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: WNECalum222 on February 28, 2012, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on February 28, 2012, 02:21:54 PM
From D3 Baseball.com:

February 28, 2012

2012 Regional Playoff Sites

•Central – USA Stadium in Millington, Tenn. (Rhodes College, host)
•Mid-Atlantic – First Energy Park in Lakewood, N.J. (Kean University, host)
•Mideast – Don Schaly Stadium in Marietta, Ohio (Marietta College, host)
•Midwest – Prucha Field in Whitewater, Wis. (University of Wisconsin, Whitewater, host)
•New England – Mansfield Complex in Mansfield, Conn. (Eastern Connecticut State University, host)
•New York – Baseball Complex in Farmingdale, N.Y. (State University of New York at Farmingdale, host)
•South – Captains Park in Newport News, Va. (Christopher Newport University, host)
•West – Roy Helser Field in McMinnville, Ore. (Linfield College, host)

As long as WNEC makes it to the regional ill be there. I live about 15 minutes from ECSU
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 28, 2012, 06:13:36 PM
WNEC Alum-

I guess I did miss that one. I had Clark as the starting first baseman and Rubino as the starting third baseman. With that logic the entire infield returns... haha. As I look over some boxscores from the season it looks like Clark, Rubino and Trubia rotated around between first, second, third and DH. Sorry about that mixup.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: WNECalum222 on February 29, 2012, 06:51:12 AM
Quote from: Hobbesy on February 28, 2012, 06:13:36 PM
WNEC Alum-

I guess I did miss that one. I had Clark as the starting first baseman and Rubino as the starting third baseman. With that logic the entire infield returns... haha. As I look over some boxscores from the season it looks like Clark, Rubino and Trubia rotated around between first, second, third and DH. Sorry about that mixup.

lol no big deal, Do you think WNEC has a good chance of repeating as NE champs? I know they have the lineup to do it, but do they have the pitching staff?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on February 29, 2012, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: WNECalum222 on February 28, 2012, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on February 28, 2012, 02:21:54 PM
From D3 Baseball.com:

February 28, 2012

2012 Regional Playoff Sites

•Central – USA Stadium in Millington, Tenn. (Rhodes College, host)
•Mid-Atlantic – First Energy Park in Lakewood, N.J. (Kean University, host)
•Mideast – Don Schaly Stadium in Marietta, Ohio (Marietta College, host)
•Midwest – Prucha Field in Whitewater, Wis. (University of Wisconsin, Whitewater, host)
•New England – Mansfield Complex in Mansfield, Conn. (Eastern Connecticut State University, host)
•New York – Baseball Complex in Farmingdale, N.Y. (State University of New York at Farmingdale, host)
•South – Captains Park in Newport News, Va. (Christopher Newport University, host)
•West – Roy Helser Field in McMinnville, Ore. (Linfield College, host)

As long as WNEC makes it to the regional ill be there. I live about 15 minutes from ECSU

Eastern's facility and organization, and with LECTV/BridgewaterTV, they do a better than first class job with the NE Regional!!
Nice to see it return to Mansfield/Willimantic 8-)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on February 29, 2012, 06:10:34 PM
WNEC Alum-

I think they have a more than adequate lineup that will put up runs in bunches against conference opponents. As for pitching, they have two or three guys that return that could be the No. 1 pitcher on nearly every team in New England. If Mark DiTommaso and Kevin Jefferis pitch like they can, they can't be beat. Having Mike Lawlor at the back of the bullpen is always nice.

I think they will get tested much more during the conference season this year and, as always, their tough non-conference schedule should give the young and inexperienced pitchers a chance to face real quality competition.

A repeat? I don't think so. It's very hard to repeat and I think there are several teams in the region that can beat the Golden Bears in a game that pits No. 3 starters against each other.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: HBPme on March 02, 2012, 02:11:50 AM
a few new england teams start tomorrow down in long island. love that farmingdale does this tournament every year now. it is nice to see the kids get out there for the first time before they go down on their spring break. speaking from a former player, it was always tough stepping on the field for the first time on spring break against a national powerhouse. does wnec look like the best team this weekend?? that would be my guess but i would love to hear other opinions.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: WNECalum222 on March 03, 2012, 10:02:08 AM
Quote from: HBPme on March 02, 2012, 02:11:50 AM
a few new england teams start tomorrow down in long island. love that farmingdale does this tournament every year now. it is nice to see the kids get out there for the first time before they go down on their spring break. speaking from a former player, it was always tough stepping on the field for the first time on spring break against a national powerhouse. does wnec look like the best team this weekend?? that would be my guess but i would love to hear other opinions.

Come from behind win for WNEC yesterday. 6-4 I beleive. First step towards a repeat in the NE region.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 07, 2012, 09:45:47 AM
Hobbsy or anyone else for that matter....

When do the new england polls come out?  Who is the best team in New England so far??

Some records of teams that traditionally do well

Eastern 4-0 (though all 4 wins over winless team)
Keene State 2-1
WNEC 2-1  (like Keene State beat ST Joes of Long island and MIT and lost to Farmindale in mini tourny)
Southern Maine 1-1
Trinity yet to play
St Joes of Maine yet to play
Amherst yet to play
Williams yet to play

Who has played that is off to a good start?  Did i miss anyone?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 07, 2012, 09:47:44 AM
Oh i missed colby sawyer college... Off to a 4-1 start!!! good start for the chargers
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: WNECalum222 on March 07, 2012, 09:49:44 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on March 07, 2012, 09:45:47 AM
Hobbsy or anyone else for that matter....

When do the new england polls come out?  Who is the best team in New England so far??

Some records of teams that traditionally do well

Eastern 4-0 (though all 4 wins over winless team)
Keene State 2-1
WNEC 2-1  (like Keene State beat ST Joes of Long island and MIT and lost to Farmindale in mini tourny)
Southern Maine 1-1
Trinity yet to play
St Joes of Maine yet to play
Amherst yet to play
Williams yet to play

Who has played that is off to a good start?  Did i miss anyone?

WNEC's pitching staff showed me a little more than I was expecting last weekend, only 7 runs in 3 games i beleive. Their lineup was medicore tho, 27k's in 3 games isnt gonna cut it. Maybe it was just the cold weather, hopefully their bats come alive during their spring trip.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 07, 2012, 10:34:12 AM
Not sure when the first poll goes out. Should be sometime in the next week or so.

My poll so far....

1. Western New England- Still tops early on
2. Eastern Connecticut- 4-0 is 4-0
3. Wheaton- yet to play
4. Amherst- yet to play but good
5. Keene St.- good start in LI
6. Tufts- yet to play and should be tested
7. St. Joe's- yet to play
8. Colby-Sawyer- give em some love for a good start

tough to tell so early on. two LECs and two NESCACs in the polls. Look for the LEC, NESCAC and NEWMAC to dominate the polls this year
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: WNECalum222 on March 07, 2012, 11:55:16 AM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 07, 2012, 10:34:12 AM
Not sure when the first poll goes out. Should be sometime in the next week or so.

My poll so far....

1. Western New England- Still tops early on
2. Eastern Connecticut- 4-0 is 4-0
3. Wheaton- yet to play
4. Amherst- yet to play but good
5. Keene St.- good start in LI
6. Tufts- yet to play and should be tested
7. St. Joe's- yet to play
8. Colby-Sawyer- give em some love for a good start

tough to tell so early on. two LECs and two NESCACs in the polls. Look for the LEC, NESCAC and NEWMAC to dominate the polls this year

How about Endicott? They were a pretty decent team last year, I think they had nearly 30 wins
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 07, 2012, 10:51:14 PM
you are right. I really like Endicott! They are my sleeper pick to win the region. All four starters back on a team that nearly made the regional last year.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on March 08, 2012, 02:14:19 PM
Quote from: WNECalum222 on March 07, 2012, 11:55:16 AM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 07, 2012, 10:34:12 AM
Not sure when the first poll goes out. Should be sometime in the next week or so.

My poll so far....

1. Western New England- Still tops early on
2. Eastern Connecticut- 4-0 is 4-0
3. Wheaton- yet to play
4. Amherst- yet to play but good
5. Keene St.- good start in LI
6. Tufts- yet to play and should be tested
7. St. Joe's- yet to play
8. Colby-Sawyer- give em some love for a good start

tough to tell so early on. two LECs and two NESCACs in the polls. Look for the LEC, NESCAC and NEWMAC to dominate the polls this year

How about Endicott? They were a pretty decent team last year, I think they had nearly 30 wins
Keep an eye on Colby Sawyer, and look at the numbers. Bull Pen has to improve.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on March 17, 2012, 02:04:45 PM
Both Keene State and WNEC have lost to St Joe's of Maine. New England is going to be tight this year. Better win your league if you want to play in may.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 18, 2012, 09:11:33 AM
My poll after 2 weeks of the season

1. St. Joe's- strong start
2. Southern Maine -5-1 with quality wins over Farmingdale State
3. Wheaton- talented squad - a contenda
4. Western New England losses to Farmingdale & St. Joe's bumps squad off top perch
5. Eastern Connecticut- 4-0 vs a 2-18 Whitter team, 1-2 vs all the rest
6. Amherst- yet to play - really?
7.Colby-Sawyer- solid start
8. Tufts 1-0 start more to come....
8. Plymouth St. - as mentioned before 4-0 is 4-0

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on March 19, 2012, 09:46:49 AM
Monday morning readers poll for 3/19..

My top 8

1. Wheaton 7-1.  Wins over St Joes, Keene,
2. St Joes 8-1.  Wins over WNEC, Keene ST, Endicott
3. WNEC 4-2  Nationally ranked with a couple of good wins, lose to St Joe has them at 3
4. Southern Maine 5-1.  Showdown with WNEC looming on the horizon, should be great game
5. Eastern 5-2.  4 of 5 against a terrible team
6. Plymouth State 4-0.  havent lost got to have them in
7 and 8 to early to tell
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wildthngvaughn on March 19, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
Alright, playing a little imagine if game here.  Imagine if Matt Fleishman stayed at WNE after his freshman year.  He is currently hitting .455 with 3 HR's for Division I Villanova.  Last year he hit .325 with 5 HR's.  Imagine him and Griglun batting 3-4 two years ago, or him on the NCAA World Series team.   
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 25, 2012, 01:30:13 PM

My poll after 3 weeks of the season

1. Wheaton- 12-1; 6-0 in Conf. Quality win vs St. Joe's & Keene State; only loss to Cortland St.
2. St. Joe's - 9-1 only loss to Wheaton
3. Eastern Connecticut 9-3 to date.
4. Southern Maine -6-4 with quality wins over Farmingdale State & WNEU, but odd dual losses to Worcester

This is where I stop. Cannot determine the next 6 as so many squads are 6-3 or 6-5 or 7-7 and have had yo-yo performances; but the best of the rest appear to be Trinity; Western New England; Amherst ; UMass D & UMassB; Keene State; Colby-Sawyer; Tufts.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 26, 2012, 09:25:13 AM
The first-ever NED3Baseball New England Poll...

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/wheaton-tops-first-ever-ned3baseball-new-england-poll/
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on March 26, 2012, 11:31:33 AM
Quote from: Hobbesy on March 26, 2012, 09:25:13 AM
The first-ever NED3Baseball New England Poll...

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/wheaton-tops-first-ever-ned3baseball-new-england-poll/

Nice, very nice. Great job.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on March 26, 2012, 11:47:46 AM
Hobbesy- good info. on the start of season for the NE teams, Wheaton has come out hot! May suggest cleaning up the background a little bit...it is tough to read  :o
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 26, 2012, 02:52:02 PM
Thanks guys.

LEC Fan- Is the NE D3 Baseball thing a bit too distracting?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on March 26, 2012, 03:28:18 PM
Yea, just a little bit much IMO...if I remember correctly Hobbesy you are also a BU sports fan? I know this is a baseball forum but thoughts about the bean pot thriller?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on March 26, 2012, 04:20:32 PM
LEC Fan- I will try and work on it. Thanks for the heads up. And yes I am a BU fan and it was not surprising the Eagles did what they did. They will soon win another national title. They are unbelievably good!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 02, 2012, 03:13:29 PM
My NED3Baseball New England Poll

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2012/04/02/monks-take-over-top-spot-in-ned3baseball-new-england-poll/
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wildthngvaughn on April 02, 2012, 04:34:38 PM
What happened to Endicott's Jake Northrup?  Did he transfer, get injured, get kicked off the team?  Losing one of the favorites to win the New England Player of the Year Award has got to be a big blow to Endicott.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 02, 2012, 05:32:36 PM
He transferred to UMass Amherst but is not playing there. Very, very tough loss for Endicott.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 03, 2012, 01:07:50 PM
Hobbsey good rankings.  Couple of good new england games this week....

Amherst at Keene
UMB plays WNEU
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 03, 2012, 03:54:03 PM
2012 D3baseball.com/NCBWA Top 25 week 6
Through games of Sunday, April 1

# School                    (1st votes) Rec Pts Prev.
1 Trinity (Texas)                   (16) 23-3 604 1
2 Marietta                             (9) 14-3 599 2
3 Christopher Newport                  22-4 584 3
4 Salisbury                                 20-4 542 5
5 Eastern Connecticut                  13-3 450 8
6 Kean                                       15-6 435 4
7 St. Thomas                               14-4 387 13
8 UW-Stevens Point                      10-4 370 9
9 Rowan                                     15-5 358 11
10 Wheaton (Mass.)                      15-3 355 7
11 Keystone                                 12-4 347 10
12 Misericordia                              20-3 312 12
13 Concordia (Texas)                     24-6 302 17
14 DePauw                                   23-3 300 21
15 Adrian                                     14-4 286 16
16 Piedmont                                 20-9 281 6
17 Cortland State                          16-6-1 273 14
18 Shenandoah                              20-7 179 19
19 Linfield                                     15-7 148 15
20 North Park                                17-3 139 -
21 UW-Whitewater                          9-4 137 22
22 Birmingham-Southern                  21-6 119 24
23 Texas-Tyler                              21-7 109 23
24 Ramapo                                    14-4 87 18
25 Neumann                                  17-6 70 20

Dropped Out: No. 25 Concordia (Ill.)

Also receiving votes: St. Joseph's (Maine) 68, Washington and Jefferson 54, Washington U. 32, Alvernia 27, Tufts 27, Aurora 17, Illinois Wesleyan 16, Franklin 14, Thomas More 12, Concordia (Ill.) 11, Lynchburg 10, Augustana 9, Washington College 8, Emory 8, Baldwin-Wallace 7, Bridgewater (Va.) 6, Amherst 6, Muhlenberg 4, Westminster (Pa.) 4, William Paterson 3, Texas-Dallas 3, Pacific Lutheran 3, Swarthmore 2, Cal Lutheran 1.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 04, 2012, 11:52:36 AM
Ricky Nelson has done a nice job with the Around the Nation article: All-Decade team: Where are they now?
Always nice to hear how the best d3 players are doing in their baseball and non-baseball careers!!
Suggest everyone give it a read, and I hope he can make it a regular article looking at a new bunch of guys next time!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 04, 2012, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 04, 2012, 11:52:36 AM
Ricky Nelson has done a nice job with the Around the Nation article: All-Decade team: Where are they now?
Always nice to hear how the best d3 players are doing in their baseball and non-baseball careers!!
Suggest everyone give it a read, and I hope he can make it a regular article looking at a new bunch of guys next time!

Agreed, really good stuff....but who names their kid Ricky Nelson? Oops, errr, my Mom & Dad did! And Ozzie and Harriet!

Ricky Nelson Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: HittingSpots38 on April 04, 2012, 01:15:37 PM
In my opinion, I think WNE will return to Regionals this year after running through what seems to be a very weak TCCC conference this year.  Endicott not as strong as last year, RWU having a confusing  and frustrating season, and I don't think Endicott has the pitching to contend for a push at the Conference Title.  RWU struggling offensively having only lost one bat from last years starting lineup.  Just an overall confusing situation there. The bats at WNE seem to have come alive over the past few games, but also gotta remember this has been against some questionable pitching.  Looking forward to seeing what WNE has to offer against upcoming non-conference games and seeing some more quality arms.

The key for WNE this year has to be starting pitching.  Still looking for Jefferis to hit his freshman year stride again and become as dominant as he was.  He has electric stuff, just needs to be the workhorse and leader that this staff needs this year. Breton has pitched well thus far and could be a very good pitcher if he keeps up what he is doing.  The starters for WNE need to give their team a chance in order to get to what seems to be one of the best bullpens in New England with Lawler leading the way and having Nugent and Lospinuso also in the mix.

Excited to see how they handle UMB today.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: HittingSpots38 on April 04, 2012, 01:16:36 PM
*I dont think WENTWORTH has the pitching to contend for a Conference Title*

sorry for the typo there
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 07, 2012, 08:33:28 AM
Latest Around the Region

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2012/04/07/around-the-region-4712/
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 09, 2012, 08:45:38 AM
NED3Baseball New England Poll- Week #3

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2012/04/09/monks-rolling-still-no-1-in-ned3baseball-new-england-poll/
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 09, 2012, 02:22:15 PM
NEIBA New England Poll
Division III
1. Wheaton (3) 20-3 31 pts
2. St. Joseph's (1) 21-2 28 pts
3. Eastern Connecticut 15-5 22 pts
Trinity 18-5 22 pts
5. Keene State 17-6 17 pts
6. Salem State 19-5 11 pts
7. Amherst 14-5 8 pts
8. Tufts 12-6 3 pts
Also receiving votes: WPI

My poll was very similar!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on April 10, 2012, 10:09:47 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 04, 2012, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 04, 2012, 11:52:36 AM
Ricky Nelson has done a nice job with the Around the Nation article: All-Decade team: Where are they now?
Always nice to hear how the best d3 players are doing in their baseball and non-baseball careers!!
Suggest everyone give it a read, and I hope he can make it a regular article looking at a new bunch of guys next time!

Agreed, really good stuff....but who names their kid Ricky Nelson? Oops, errr, my Mom & Dad did! And Ozzie and Harriet!

Ricky Nelson Word
Thanks, guys.
I'm a Richard, but cute kids get tagged with cute nicknames. The moniker outlasted the cuteness by a couple of decades.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 11, 2012, 08:39:59 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 10, 2012, 10:09:47 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 04, 2012, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 04, 2012, 11:52:36 AM
Ricky Nelson has done a nice job with the Around the Nation article: All-Decade team: Where are they now?
Always nice to hear how the best d3 players are doing in their baseball and non-baseball careers!!
Suggest everyone give it a read, and I hope he can make it a regular article looking at a new bunch of guys next time!

Agreed, really good stuff....but who names their kid Ricky Nelson? Oops, errr, my Mom & Dad did! And Ozzie and Harriet!

Ricky Nelson Word
Thanks, guys.
I'm a Richard, but cute kids get tagged with cute nicknames. The moniker outlasted the cuteness by a couple of decades.

Well I am a Richard as well. And my Dad served in WWII with a guy named Nelson Tibbets, to which they returned home together and had a long lasting friendship. To honor Nelson my parents gave me that as a middle name. So all through school I was "little Ricky Nelson".

I always looked at that I'd rather be a Ricky Nelson than a Dick Nixon.

Word
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: WNECalum222 on April 12, 2012, 07:44:46 AM
WNEC beats Keene 14-1 yesterday, like usual WNEC is hitting their stride late in the season. With their remaining schedule I could honestly see them winning out. If their pitching is good enough this year I could see them taking another regional title. Go Bears.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Hobbesy on April 18, 2012, 09:39:05 AM
A look at some interesting topics around the region

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/around-the-region-418/
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 19, 2012, 10:18:29 PM
I see that today Castleton State beat Colby Sawyer twice in NEAC play. Castleton was 17-1 coming into the game and Colby Sawyer was 10-12. What has me irked about these games is Castleton used the same pitcher for both games, two complete seven inning games. 14 innings. The games could not mean that much to Castleton that you risk a young arm to throw how many pitches 160,180. How many coaches out their would do something like this. Of course that conference's schedule might force coaches to do things with pitching they might not otherwise do.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on April 19, 2012, 10:58:49 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 19, 2012, 10:18:29 PM
I see that today Castleton State beat Colby Sawyer twice in NEAC play. Castleton was 17-1 coming into the game and Colby Sawyer was 10-12. What has me irked about these games is Castleton used the same pitcher for both games, two complete seven inning games. 14 innings. The games could not mean that much to Castleton that you risk a young arm to throw how many pitches 160,180. How many coaches out their would do something like this. Of course that conference's schedule might force coaches to do things with pitching they might not otherwise do.
Wow. It was their 17th game in 15 days with four more over the next two days, but I'm with you. That's a tough situation all around.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 19, 2012, 11:10:52 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 19, 2012, 10:18:29 PM
I see that today Castleton State beat Colby Sawyer twice in NEAC play. Castleton was 17-1 coming into the game and Colby Sawyer was 10-12. What has me irked about these games is Castleton used the same pitcher for both games, two complete seven inning games. 14 innings. The games could not mean that much to Castleton that you risk a young arm to throw how many pitches 160,180. How many coaches out their would do something like this. Of course that conference's schedule might force coaches to do things with pitching they might not otherwise do.

Nine hits and two walks in 14 innings.  Does not sound like 160 pitches.  Maybe 130.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on April 19, 2012, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 19, 2012, 11:10:52 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 19, 2012, 10:18:29 PM
I see that today Castleton State beat Colby Sawyer twice in NEAC play. Castleton was 17-1 coming into the game and Colby Sawyer was 10-12. What has me irked about these games is Castleton used the same pitcher for both games, two complete seven inning games. 14 innings. The games could not mean that much to Castleton that you risk a young arm to throw how many pitches 160,180. How many coaches out their would do something like this. Of course that conference's schedule might force coaches to do things with pitching they might not otherwise do.

Nine hits and two walks in 14 innings.  Does not sound like 160 pitches.  Maybe 130.
Who knows, but this tool (http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/epccalc.pl) puts the estimate at 155. Can't vouch for the tool's veracity.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 23, 2012, 07:35:39 PM
rumor has it at 163..... dangerous for anyone
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on April 24, 2012, 08:54:54 AM
The kid supposedly has a rubber arm and didnt have a problem bouncing back... I believe Castelton needed to win both (as well as have some help elsewhere) to host the conference tournament or something like that...either way tough to imagine throwing 14 innings over 4+ hours of baseball, plus the rest in between games etc.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 24, 2012, 01:00:50 PM
LEC Fan-  Thats a great point you brought up, not only did this kid throw 163, he threw 8 pitches to warm up before the first, (16 for the two games, then 5 before the rest of the innings 5x12 equals 60)  So that is another 76 on top of the 163 for a real total of 239, plus whatever he threw in the pen to warm up before the games.  Rubber arm or not... that is dangerous
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 24, 2012, 09:23:51 PM
This pitch count topic got me to thinking.....I coached for many years and threw BP on many a night. So, I did a quick count. We had a a bucket of 50-55 balls that I threw to every kid on the roster. The roster had 12, sometimes 15 kids. I'd do this night after night especially during All-Star season. So 50 x 12 = OMG! No wonder my right arm is an inch longer than my left one.  :P
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Man on April 24, 2012, 10:38:54 PM
Nice to see KSU (#25 - ABCA) getting some NATIONAL LOVE - Playiing well.  Can they host the LEC at the "Very Dry Swamp" - Go OWLS and all other teams in LEC (BCITC)- Best Conference In the Country - 26-9 overall - with 5 of 9 losses against top 25 teams, In nation -Willing to play anyone, anywhere, anytime - Bring it on.

OM
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: WNECalum222 on April 25, 2012, 08:00:29 AM
Quote from: Old Man on April 24, 2012, 10:38:54 PM
Nice to see KSU (#25 - ABCA) getting some NATIONAL LOVE - Playiing well.  Can they host the LEC at the "Very Dry Swamp" - Go OWLS and all other teams in LEC (BCITC)- Best Conference In the Country - 26-9 overall - with 5 of 9 losses against top 25 teams, In nation -Willing to play anyone, anywhere, anytime - Bring it on.

OM

WNEC just keeps plugging along, beating ECSU 9-6 yesterday in a game that wasn't as close as the score would indicate. 4-1 against the LEC this year, two of the games being blowouts. One of which was a 14-1 beat down of the "best" team in the LEC...Some how they don't get the respect in the polls eastern and keene get but they will be a threat in the regional yet again this year.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: LEC Fan on April 25, 2012, 08:49:53 AM
WNECalum222 I hear ya about the national recognition...the running joke was that if Eastern (or USM at the time) started out 0-4 they would still be ranked because of their name. Don't get me wrong both of those programs are top notch (winning wise) but unless you are 30-2 or some ridiculous record like that it takes a little time to get the eyes looking beyond ECSU and USM (for the LEC anyways).

WNEC has put together a very solid season and apart from the CCCCCCCCC schedule they play shared 18 opponents with KSC. Of the 9 losses that both teams currently have this is how they fared with common opponents...

Both lost to Farmingdale St. at the beginning of the season.
Both lost to St. Joe's in Florida
WNEC lost to Amherst, Keene beat Amherst
WNEC swept by Wheaton, Keene lost first game and second coming up this weekend

Of course WNEC beat up on Keene when they played down in Springfield earlier this month but for the most part they seem to be pretty evenly matched teams (WNEC .348 avg vs. KSC .341 avg). Both have become very competitive programs in New England and are continuing to show it this year. Beating Eastern this week should provide the much needed "word of mouth" to get the Golden Bears into the national spotlight!

Keene has 3 big home games this weekend against USM (conference doubleheader) and Wheaton (nationally ranked). 29-9 with a firm grip on the #1 spot in the conference and beating a nationally ranked Wheaton team would be a nice way to end April!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: WNECalum222 on April 25, 2012, 09:00:30 AM
They really shouldn't need to beat Eastern (for the 5th straight year) to get the national recognition. Did they not win the NE regional last year? All I'm saying is they have nearly identical records to Keene and Eastern this year after winning the regional last year and have beat both, yet are ranked nationally below both....  :o
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: owlsnest on April 25, 2012, 11:04:31 AM
Quote from: WNECalum222 on April 25, 2012, 09:00:30 AM
They really shouldn't need to beat Eastern (for the 5th straight year) to get the national recognition. Did they not win the NE regional last year? All I'm saying is they have nearly identical records to Keene and Eastern this year after winning the regional last year and have beat both, yet are ranked nationally below both....  :o


WNECalum222--Couldnt agree more with some of things you said...Most of the coaches voting in national polls and such really havent looked at a lot of head-to-head play in comparison of schools. Granted the Bears blowout of KSC earlier this month was a big win, it obviously wasn't the Owls showing up to play at all that day (I was at that ballgame, it was pitiful). WNE lost to USM from the LEC early in the season; KSC has them this weekend. I do however agree that WNE should be getting a little bit more attention but doesn't the lack of national recognition help spark a little fire at a motivating standpoint?

Anyways, lets see how things pan out...still more regular season baseball to be played. PLAY BALL!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 26, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
First NCAA Rankings
NEW ENGLAND            
1   Wheaton (Mass.)   28-3   30-4   
2   Keene State   24-6   25-9   
3   St. Joseph's (Maine)   32-5   32-5   
4   Trinity (Conn.)   19-6   23-8   
5   Western New England   22-7   23-9   
6   Rhode Island College   20-10   20-11   
7   Amherst   16-5   19-7   
8   Bowdoin   16-11   18-13   
9   Eastern Connecticut State   13-6   22-8   
10   Tufts   12-5   20-8
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 26, 2012, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 26, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
First NCAA Rankings
NEW ENGLAND            
1   Wheaton (Mass.)   28-3   30-4   
2   Keene State   24-6   25-9   
3   St. Joseph's (Maine)   32-5   32-5   
4   Trinity (Conn.)   19-6   23-8   
5   Western New England   22-7   23-9   
6   Rhode Island College   20-10   20-11   
7   Amherst   16-5   19-7   
8   Bowdoin   16-11   18-13   
9   Eastern Connecticut State   13-6   22-8   
10   Tufts   12-5   20-8


So ladys, lets go out on a limb. Which team of this group goes to Wisconsin?

Wheaton is my pick - chalk!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 26, 2012, 08:48:07 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on April 26, 2012, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 26, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
First NCAA Rankings
NEW ENGLAND            
1   Wheaton (Mass.)   28-3   30-4   
2   Keene State   24-6   25-9   
3   St. Joseph's (Maine)   32-5   32-5   
4   Trinity (Conn.)   19-6   23-8   
5   Western New England   22-7   23-9   
6   Rhode Island College   20-10   20-11   
7   Amherst   16-5   19-7   
8   Bowdoin   16-11   18-13   
9   Eastern Connecticut State   13-6   22-8   
10   Tufts   12-5   20-8


So ladys, lets go out on a limb. Which team of this group goes to Wisconsin?

Wheaton is my pick - chalk!
My choice is Keene State
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on April 27, 2012, 07:34:04 AM
Im taking Keene State.  Wheaton gets upset early and plays the loser bracket game and runs out of pitching
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: WNECalum222 on April 27, 2012, 08:23:50 AM
Quote from: kscer on April 26, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
First NCAA Rankings
NEW ENGLAND            
1   Wheaton (Mass.)   28-3   30-4   
2   Keene State   24-6   25-9   
3   St. Joseph's (Maine)   32-5   32-5   
4   Trinity (Conn.)   19-6   23-8   
5   Western New England   22-7   23-9   
6   Rhode Island College   20-10   20-11   
7   Amherst   16-5   19-7   
8   Bowdoin   16-11   18-13   
9   Eastern Connecticut State   13-6   22-8   
10   Tufts   12-5   20-8

How is ECSU #9? lol I mean I don't like them as much as the next guy but that is pretty low.

My pick for Appleton is either Wheaton or WNEC
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
I think it will be St Joe's (Maine) year to go to the show.  Wheaton has great pitching, but may not be strong enough offensively, while St Joes is hitting .336 as a team and has a 3.06 team era.  I am afraid Keene does not have the pitching or defense to win,while Eastern has a young team which may not have strong enough pitching/hitting to sustain a NCAA NE Regional Championship, (unless someone gets real hot).  WNEU would be my 3rd pick to win it.  But.... predictions are only predictions, and it is all about the final result, so good luck to all our fine New England teams.

BTW I am just happy that ECSU will have, (and well deserved), the NCAA NE Regional vs crappy Whitehouse Field on the Cape 8-)  :) ;)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on April 27, 2012, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on April 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
I think it will be St Joe's (Maine) year to go to the show.  Wheaton has great pitching, but may not be strong enough offensively, while St Joes is hitting .336 as a team and has a 3.06 team era.  I am afraid Keene does not have the pitching or defense to win,while Eastern has a young team which may not have strong enough pitching/hitting to sustain a NCAA NE Regional Championship, (unless someone gets real hot).  WNEU would be my 3rd pick to win it.  But.... predictions are only predictions, and it is all about the final result, so good luck to all our fine New England teams.

BTW I am just happy that ECSU will have, (and well deserved), the NCAA NE Regional vs crappy Whitehouse Field on the Cape 8-)  :) ;)

Just to back up my comments on how nice the ECSU Baseball Stadium is, I have attached a video put together by Tristan Hobbs, former Eastern star 1B and publisher of New England D3 College Baseball Sports, and currently Assistant Sports Information Director at Bryant University.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNEXzSD4hqw

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: rob on April 28, 2012, 09:13:07 AM
Quote from: WNECalum222 on April 27, 2012, 08:23:50 AM
Quote from: kscer on April 26, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
First NCAA Rankings
NEW ENGLAND            
1   Wheaton (Mass.)   28-3   30-4   
2   Keene State   24-6   25-9   
3   St. Joseph's (Maine)   32-5   32-5   
4   Trinity (Conn.)   19-6   23-8   
5   Western New England   22-7   23-9   
6   Rhode Island College   20-10   20-11   
7   Amherst   16-5   19-7   
8   Bowdoin   16-11   18-13   
9   Eastern Connecticut State   13-6   22-8   
10   Tufts   12-5   20-8

How is ECSU #9? lol I mean I don't like them as much as the next guy but that is pretty low.

My pick for Appleton is either Wheaton or WNEC
ECSU, although one of the best teams in New England only played 19 in-region games, and that winning % isn't that good.  Lucky to get in at #9.  I am an ECSU fan, but they need to do better.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 28, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
Colby Sawyer has just completed their second win in the NEAC East conference tournament.  This team entered the tourney with an 18-20 record, but with one of the deepest pitcuing staffs in the NE. Tomorrow the play the winner of Castleton - Thomas. Go Colby Sawyer
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Man on May 02, 2012, 08:50:54 PM
I am seeing alot of predictions for the weekend in the LEC and who will host depending on results.  _ does anyone know where we can find the "official" tiebreakers for final regular season standing in the LEC for 2012?

OM
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 02, 2012, 09:06:19 PM
Quote from: Old Man on May 02, 2012, 08:50:54 PM
I am seeing alot of predictions for the weekend in the LEC and who will host depending on results.  _ does anyone know where we can find the "official" tiebreakers for final regular season standing in the LEC for 2012?

OM

Ed Flaherty and Bill Holywater are the only owners of the official tiebreaker rules and they store them in a sealed mayonnaise jar on Funk and Wagnalls' front porch (Sound familiar Boomers?).
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Man on May 02, 2012, 09:23:13 PM
Word -

AS always  +++ karma if i could - you are the heart and soul of LEC baseball.

OM
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wildthngvaughn on May 04, 2012, 01:18:45 AM
Ok I am deeply confused with what happened at the Bridgewater St. vs Salem St. MASCAC 1st Round game.  Is the Salem St. coach a moron or was their a misprint in the box score.  Instead of starting the MASCAC Pitcher of the Year Matt Kerr, he started a freshman with only 7 innings pitched this year.  He allowed the freshmen to face 2 batters (a double and a sac fly to right)  He then brought Kerr in.  Bridgewater then hit another sac fly to score the guy on third and won the game 1-0.

Somebody please explain what happened.  Was Kerr not able to arrive on time (possibly because of finals) or something like that?  I just don't get it.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on May 16, 2012, 09:56:04 AM
Interesting factoid-

New Hampshire has 5 schools competing in NCAA regional tournaments in Baseball-three in Div lll and two in Div ll. A lot of NH kids on those teams...I can think of six off the top of my head without doing any research from Keene High school alone. IMHO I think that is great for a town and state where spring starts in July most years.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 17, 2012, 02:44:18 PM
Quote from: kscer on May 16, 2012, 09:56:04 AM
Interesting factoid-

New Hampshire has 5 schools competing in NCAA regional tournaments in Baseball-three in Div lll and two in Div ll. A lot of NH kids on those teams...I can think of six off the top of my head without doing any research from Keene High school alone. IMHO I think that is great for a town and state where spring starts in July most years.

Keene has a great Cal Ripken, Babe Ruth and Legion system. I had the privledge to coach in those systems for many years.

The talent that is delivered to the High School level is remarkable. Year in and year out quality kids go into the program, only to be chewed up in the meat grinder that has been allowed to exist there for years. Kids regress in baseball skills and abilities as they progress through their high school years and end up playing college despite the culture that exists in the athletic and baseball programs at KHS.

Congrats to those young men and their parents for their successes.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 17, 2012, 03:51:39 PM
I went over to the NY regional and checked on how castleton was doing.  I discovered that they only have 6 teams in their regional.  Am i missing something here?? Why?  Number 1 isnt that an advantage to have only 6 teams, as you have to win less games to win the regional then you would in a traditional 8 team, thats two less teams you have to worry about. 

Also more importantly, why not give another NE or Mid-Atlantic team a shot and fill up the regional?  There were plenty of teams from NE that were on the fence and would of loved to go over and play in that regional.  I know that only a certain amount of pool c bids exist, but why not stack up 8... 8 team regionals for 64 total?  Whats the worst that is going to happen, two teams are going to get to extend their season for another week?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wildthngvaughn on May 17, 2012, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 17, 2012, 03:51:39 PM
I went over to the NY regional and checked on how castleton was doing.  I discovered that they only have 6 teams in their regional.  Am i missing something here?? Why?  Number 1 isnt that an advantage to have only 6 teams, as you have to win less games to win the regional then you would in a traditional 8 team, thats two less teams you have to worry about. 

Also more importantly, why not give another NE or Mid-Atlantic team a shot and fill up the regional?  There were plenty of teams from NE that were on the fence and would of loved to go over and play in that regional.  I know that only a certain amount of pool c bids exist, but why not stack up 8... 8 team regionals for 64 total?  Whats the worst that is going to happen, two teams are going to get to extend their season for another week?

The NCAA doesn't want to pay for 10 more teams.  They have already expanded the DIII tournament  big time over the last 6 or so years.  It used to be that there were only 6 teams in the New England Regional and only 4 teams in the New York Regional.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 17, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
NCAA, thats really pathetic!!!  Take 1/2 of 1 % away from D-I, (which they would not miss), and give it to D-III to make a 64 team regional.  Money hungry twits!!  I am sure the NCAA admin. is taken care of well!!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on May 17, 2012, 04:46:06 PM
I believe the number of teams in a regional is based on the number of teams in a region. There is a math formula for it. I would suspect the cost of transporting teams to fill out the 6 team regionals to 8 teams would be prohibitive without some revenue source to offset it. Maybe have D-i basketball or football pay for it?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on May 17, 2012, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: kscer on May 17, 2012, 04:46:06 PM
I believe the number of teams in a regional is based on the number of teams in a region. There is a math formula for it. I would suspect the cost of transporting teams to fill out the 6 team regionals to 8 teams would be prohibitive without some revenue source to offset it. Maybe have D-i basketball or football pay for it?
D-I basketball TV contracts already pay for D-III postseasons.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 20, 2012, 08:25:32 AM
Quote from: kscer on May 17, 2012, 04:46:06 PM
I believe the number of teams in a regional is based on the number of teams in a region. There is a math formula for it. I would suspect the cost of transporting teams to fill out the 6 team regionals to 8 teams would be prohibitive without some revenue source to offset it. Maybe have D-i basketball or football pay for it?
The number of teams in the D-III Playoffs for almost all team sports is 1 bid for every 6.5 participants. That is how we moved from about 3 Pool C bids to the 16 that we have now.  And yes, it is due to the NCAA Money for the March Madness contract.

Quote from: ECSUalum on May 17, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
NCAA, thats really pathetic!!!  Take 1/2 of 1 % away from D-I, (which they would not miss), and give it to D-III to make a 64 team regional.  Money hungry twits!!  I am sure the NCAA admin. is taken care of well!!!

The real fear that I have for D-III sports is that the BCS schools will take their teams out of the NCAA to have their own TV contracts for intercollegiate athletics.

How much money would a football contract for a BCS 16-team national football playoff bring to an exclusive organization of the 130 big BCS schools bring?

The 8-team brackets were placed in the New England, Mid-Atlantic, Mideast, and Midwest Regionals.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on May 25, 2012, 01:55:18 PM
Good start for Wheakton getting that first one.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 25, 2012, 02:51:41 PM
What a beautiful facility Fox Cities Stadium is!!!!!  BTW really nice job by NCAA on High def broadcast.  Announcers excellent, anyone know who they are? Color guy is a former MLB player I think.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Man on May 25, 2012, 08:42:59 PM
Congrats to WHEATON on todays win - Eric Podbelski his staff and his team are a "TRUE CLASS ACT" as I have seen them MANY times over the last 10 years,  and will represent NE D3 Baseball Well -

GO WHEATIES -

Bring the Walnut and Bronze back to New England !!!!

OM
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Old Man on May 25, 2012, 08:45:45 PM
Also,

Great Job on the Video by NCAA - Almost as good as LEC TV - That is me showing my New England bias,

OM
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 27, 2012, 08:49:49 PM
ePod & the Wheaties inch a little closer to immortality with a fantastic effort by Frank Holbrook.

Go Wheaton....(time 4 a shower 8-)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on May 27, 2012, 09:42:58 PM
Another big win for Wheaton, pulling it out in the 9th inning. Go Wheaton, Go New England.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: KSCfan on May 28, 2012, 10:42:54 PM
good luck to wheaton in national title game
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Wally on May 29, 2012, 10:00:18 PM
Good luck to Coach Pod and The Boy's wednesday. Let's bring a D3 National Championship back to New England!
:)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on May 30, 2012, 09:42:34 AM
Tough way to lose yesterday! One win today and the walnut and bronze comes back to New England. Go Wheaton. Good Luck, and may Bucky Dent and Bill Bruckner play for the other team.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 30, 2012, 05:56:33 PM
Congrats to Wheaton College on a great season and to Marietta College for their 2nd staight and 6 NCAA Division-III National Baseball Championship!!!!!!!!!!
Another D-III College Baseball season comes to a close!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on May 30, 2012, 07:47:27 PM
Congrats to the boys from New England really good run for the Wheaties.

The great State of O-H-I-O boys just repeated in baseball. Yehaw.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on January 24, 2013, 03:33:32 PM
Lets get this thread going for 2013:
The D3 baseball preseason baseball poll, for what its worth
D3baseball.com Top 25, preseason
Records are from the final 2012 D3baseball.com Top 25

# School (1st votes) Rec Pts Prev.
1 Wheaton (Mass.) (8) 41-11 594 2
2 St. Thomas (3) 41-10 586 3
3 Marietta (14) 48-8 578 1
4 Cortland State 41-9-1 564 4
5 Whitworth 31-16-1 457 8
6 Birmingham-Southern 38-9 443 10
7 Kean 37-12 422 6
8 Christopher Newport 34-10 411 5
9 Salisbury 34-9 386 11
10 Webster 36-14 361 7
11 Trinity (Texas) 37-12 360 13
12 Keystone 37-8 333 9
13 Adrian 37-10 304 12
14 St. Joseph's (Maine) 39-7 245 14
15 Western New England 38-13 214 17
16 Concordia (Texas) 37-11 206 15
17 UW-La Crosse 34-11 194 16
18 UW-Whitewater 33-17 191 24
19 Trinity (Conn.) 34-11 161 22
20 Ramapo 35-15 147 23
21 Washington and Jefferson 36-10 119 20
22 St. Scholastica 35-11 101 25
23 Shenandoah 31-13 100 18
24 Aurora 38-10 77 19
25 Farmingdale State 32-12 66 rv



Others receiving votes: UW-Stevens Point 44, Alvernia 30, Washington (Mo.) 28, Illinois Wesleyan 24, Misericordia 22, Mount Union 21, Lynchburg 20, St. John Fisher 18, Rose-Hulman 15, Bridgewater (Va.) 15, North Park 14, Texas-Tyler 14, St. John's (Minn.) 12, Neumann 12, Eastern Conn. St. 12, Manchester 11, Coe 11, Old Westbury 11, La Verne 10, Southern Maine 10, Cal Lutheran 9, Pomona-Pitzer 9, Chapman 8, Rhodes 8, Huntingdon 7, Husson 6, Ithaca 6, Bridgewater St. 5, Penn St.-Behrend 5, Tufts 5, Wooster 4, DePauw 3, Emory 3, Western Conn. St. 3, Rowan 2, Chicago 2, Anderson (Ind.) 2 , Millsaps 2, La Roche 2, Linfield 2, Hope 1, Johns Hopkins 1.

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on January 24, 2013, 04:41:07 PM
Plus Bridgewater State, Husson and Tufts.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on January 24, 2013, 07:41:10 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on January 24, 2013, 04:41:07 PM
Plus Bridgewater State, Husson and Tufts.

Absolutely Correct Ricky!!! :-[ And 3 good baseball programs as well!!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: lefthanders on January 25, 2013, 07:59:49 AM
Once again, I find the pre-season polls quite amusing! Not saying that the teams ranked or receiving votes aren't deserving, but really....where is Keene State College....what do they need to do?

They are receiving votes in 2 out of the 3 pre-season polls, but to put some of these teams in NE ahead of them is a joke.

They have consistently competed in the LEC at a high level, consistently competed with the top ranked teams in NE at a high level and have been to the NCAA regionals 4 out of the last 6 years in the toughest region to qualify....

So once again....I say really...where do these polls originate from....a bar after close????
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on January 25, 2013, 09:56:18 AM
Quote from: ECSUalum on January 24, 2013, 03:33:32 PM
Lets get this thread going for 2013:
The D3 baseball preseason baseball poll, for what its worth]

It's good to see St Joe's of Maine rated so high. They usually have a good team, and do not garner the respect they deserve. Also no LEC teams in the top 25?  Does any one here think the season will end up like that?
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on January 25, 2013, 10:41:01 AM
Keene St never seems to get much love on these preseason polls, however they are probably somewhat accurate for the top 10 at best.  The lower 15-20 are a 50/50 proposition.  Keene just needs to win its games and the rankings will take care of themselves.  Look at the mid April poll to gage a more accurate ranking.

I see Cal Tech plays Sunday for first game of the D-III season?  We are almost there!!!! Cant wait!!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: WNECalum222 on January 25, 2013, 12:57:31 PM
Good to see WNE getting some love in the preseason polls. They should be tough to beat this year and it should be a good battle for the NE crown. I fully expect WNE to be there at the end.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on March 11, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
St Joe's upends Wheaton 2-1. Upsets the apple cart a bit.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on March 12, 2013, 11:18:21 AM
D3baseball.com Top 25, week 3Through games of Sunday March 10, 2013

# School (1st votes) Rec Pts Prev.
1 Cortland State (10) 7-1 602 4
2 Marietta (5) 3-1 566 3
3 Wheaton (Mass.) (5) 3-1 564 1
4 Christopher Newport (4) 16-4-1 512 5
5 St. Thomas (1) 5-3 501 2
6 Salisbury 8-2 473 7
7 Trinity (Texas) 15-4 439 6
8 Kean 7-2 425 9
9 St. Joseph's (Maine) 4-0 417 12
10 UW-Whitewater 1-1 349 11
11 Linfield 12-3 319 15
12 Keystone 8-3 295 13
13 Shenandoah 9-2 274 19
14 Ramapo 2-0 269 17
15 Western New England 2-1 242 14
16 UW-La Crosse 1-1 233 16
17 Birmingham-Southern 11-6 219 10
18 Bridgewater (Va.) 9-1 184 23
19 Trinity (Conn.) 0-0 171 18
20 Texas-Tyler 14-4 160 24
21 Manchester 8-0 119 rv
22 Washington and Jefferson 3-0 99 25
23 UW-Stevens Point 2-0 78 rv
24 Johns Hopkins 5-0 60 rv
25 Augustana 7-1 55 rv



Dropped out: No 8. Adrian, 20. Webster, 21 Aurora, No. 22 Whitworth.

Others receiving votes: Adrian 52, Aurora  52, St. Scholastica  38, Millsaps 38, Pomona-Pitzer 35, Mount Union 31, Ill. Wesleyan 27, Southern Me. 24, Baldwin Wallace 23, Webster 21, Whitworth  20, Misericordia 18, Elmhurst 17, Rowan 16, Wis.-Oshkosh 13, Ithaca 12, Wartburg 12, Neumann 12, St. Joseph's (Brkln) 5, Heidelberg 4, Concordia (Ill.) 4, Wittenberg 3, Brockport St. 3, Cal Lutheran 3, Montclair St. 3, Alvernia 3, DePauw 2, Eastern Conn. St. 2, Tufts 2, Thomas More 2, La Verne 1, Bridgewater St 1, Chicago 1.



Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: amh63 on March 13, 2013, 04:31:16 PM
ECSU ....saw that the baseball games between our schools were cancelled...in New York somewhere...to bad.. Well fewer loses for us!
Wanted to let you know that there is a lacrosse game at 4:30 pm today between us ...on the web...can go the Amherst website.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on March 13, 2013, 09:49:30 PM
amh63,
Yes the snow really wrecked the weeks schedule.  Actually I was really looking forward to the Lord Jeff/ECSU games, as,  besides Ithaca, they really have not played a particularly strong schedule.  Hopefully we get rescheduled.

re LAX, ECSU has not really been competitive with the NESCAC schools historically, where top to bottom NESCAC LAX excels on a national basis. BTW, as of this writing the Lord Jeffs have defeated Eastern 13-9.  Always tough for Eastern to attract the quality student athletes schools like Amherst, Weslyan, Tufts, Middlebury get in LAX, but we are competitive in the LEC

Also, amh63, best of luck in the NCAA sweet 16!!!  Rooting for an Amherst National Championship 8-) 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on March 19, 2013, 03:49:43 PM
D3baseball.com Top 25, week 4
Through games of Sunday March 17, 2013

# School (1st votes) Rec Pts Prev.
1 Salisbury (20) 13-2 586 6
2 Trinity (Texas) 19-4 534 7
3 Cortland State (1) 10-4 517 1
4 Marietta (2) 7-3 498 2
5 St. Thomas (1) 5-3 472 5
6 Linfield (1) 15-3 446 11
7 Christopher Newport 18-6-1 433 4
8 Kean 10-4 409 8
9 St. Joseph's (Maine) 7-2 385 9
10 Wheaton (Mass.) 5-4 357 3
11 Shenandoah 11-3 314 13
12 Western New England 5-2 305 15
13 Ramapo 4-1 285 14
14 Keystone 11-5 267 12
15 Texas-Tyler 17-5 221 20
16 UW-Whitewater 3-2 211 10
17 Birmingham-Southern 14-7 176 17
18 UW-La Crosse 2-2 164 16
19 Webster 7-5 140 rv
20 UW-Stevens Point 3-0 116 23
21 Augustana 10-2 95 25
22 Manchester 9-2-1 70 21
23 Rowan 8-2 66 rv
24 Illinois Wesleyan 6-2 61 rv
25 Washington and Jefferson 4-1 56 22


Dropped out: No. 18 Bridgewater (Va.), No. 19 Trinity (Conn.), No. 24 Johns Hopkins.


Others receiving votes: Pomona-Pitzer 52, Baldwin Wallace 52, Johns Hopkins 50, St. Scholastica 50, Mount Union 41, Heidelberg 41, Haverford 38, Wis.-Oshkosh 31, Millsaps 30, Neumann 30, Eastern Conn. St. 28, Elmhurst 24, Bridgewater (Va.) 23, Trinity (Conn.) 22, Concordia (Ill.) 20, Cal Lutheran 18, Adrian 17, Aurora 16, Southern Me. 13, Huntingdon 13, Spalding 9, Wartburg 7, St. John Fisher 7, Occidental 6, Misericordia 5, Wittenberg 5, St. Joseph's (Brkln) 5, Thomas More  3, Brockport St. 2, La Roche 1, John Carroll 1, Tufts 1.


Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on March 19, 2013, 07:59:02 PM
I found this Wikipedia article interesting!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_stadiums

nice photos besides the statistics

BTW ECSU's facility has a Wiki article which includes Tristan Hobbs' well done video:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Baseball_Stadium
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on March 20, 2013, 12:20:00 PM
American Baseball Coaches Association/Collegiate Baseball
NCAA Division III Baseball Poll

March 19, 2013
next poll: March 26

Rk     School                 Record Points Presn Rank

1. Salisbury (Md.) (4)     13-2   398        11
2. Trinity (Texas) (5)      19-4   390        10
3. Cortland  St. (3)        10-4   389          3
4. Linfield (Ore.) (2)       15-3   375         rv
5. Christ. Newpt (Va.)   18-6-1 357         6
6. Marietta (Ohio) (1)      7-3    331         5
7. Texas-Tyler                17-5   309        rv
8. George Fox (Ore.)      15-5   248        nr
9. Kean (N.J.)                 10-4   247         7
10. St. Thomas (Minn.)     5-3  241           2
11. Cal Lutheran          13-5-1 240          rv
12. Shenandoah (Va.)   11-3    238         27
13. St. Joseph's (Maine) 7-2    220         14
14. Heidelberg (Ohio)      10-3 187         nr
15. Wheaton (Mass.)       5-4   184         1
16. Western N E (Mass.)  5-2   175        22
17. Illinois Wesleyan        6-2   159         rv
18. Pomona-Pitzer (Calif.)15-5 152         rv
19. ECSU                          7-1   151        24
20. Huntingdon (Ala.)      14-5  134          nr
21. Millsaps (Miss.)          12-5  133          nr
22. Haverford (Pa.)          10-0  131          nr
23. Webster (Mo.)              7-5  124         9
24. Keystone (Pa.)           11-5  121         12
25. Centenary (La.)          15-5 118          nr
26. St. Scholastica (Minn.) 8-3   113        30
27. Manchester (Ind.)      9-2-1 112         rv
28. Wis.-Whitewater          3-2  105         18
29. Birmingham-So. (Ala.)  14-7   86          4
30. Texas Lutheran           17-6  80           nr

Also receiving votes: Johns Hopkins (Md.) 75, Rowan (N.J.) 67, Ramapo (N.J.) 58, La Verne (Calif). 56, Ithaca
(N.Y.) 53, Spalding (Ky.) 52, Wartburg (Iowa) 52, Rensselaer (N.Y.) 50, Concordia-Chicago 44, Augustana (Ill.)
41, Wis.-La Crosse 40, Trinity (Conn.) 38, Montclair (N.J.) State 29, Washington & Jefferson (Pa.) 27, Bridgewater
(Va.) 22, Misericordia (Pa.) 19, Washington University (Mo.) 11, Alvernia (Pa.) 10, Brockport (N.Y.) State 9, Wis.-
Stevens Point 3, Amherst (Mass.) 1.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 07, 2013, 05:09:07 PM
St. Joes struggling to maintain early pace. Looks like they can't get timely hits to close out or catch up in many games. Pitching seems to have slipped a little also. May drop out of next top 25.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 07, 2013, 05:28:23 PM
New England Rankings are getting wicked squirrelly. Southern Maine has got to be near the top of the heap. WNEU and Wheaton both have 6 losses, and SAt Joe's has had some bad losses. Amherst is hanging tough, but it seems wide open. USM  right now looks to me like a #1, but they seem to have problems with injuries as the season elongates.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 07, 2013, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: kscer on April 07, 2013, 05:28:23 PM
New England Rankings are getting wicked squirrelly. Southern Maine has got to be near the top of the heap. WNEU and Wheaton both have 6 losses, and SAt Joe's has had some bad losses. Amherst is hanging tough, but it seems wide open. USM  right now looks to me like a #1, but they seem to have problems with injuries as the season elongates.
Have to agree, USM probably followed by Suffolk(though they have played the weakest part of their conference schedule). How does Trinity look? How about MIT?  UMBoston looking good in LEC but overall record not great.  Wouldn't have bet on Wheaton, WNEC and St. Joes not looking better than they have. (or ECSU for that matter).  Could be awhile before everything sorts out.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 08, 2013, 11:21:03 PM
Suffolk probably has the best record but their schedule is weak. Hard to overlook with only three losses. MIT could be a sleeper.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on April 09, 2013, 05:53:51 PM
Southern Maine is putting the hurt on St Joe's. Rafferty gave up 11 runs in 5 innings. St Joe's seems to be in a real collapse. USM seems to have the horses  I think I hat USM almost as much as I hate Eastern Connecticut., so this is painful to watch.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on April 09, 2013, 08:21:32 PM
USM enters top 25 this week at 24, St. Joes drops out.  Wheaton still top NE team in top 25(dropping to 12). Others receiving votes: Suffolk, WNEC and St. Joes.  Suffolk way up in votes from previous week(I have to agree that schedule is not the strongest) WNEC and St. Joes way down in votes and ECSU drops off list completely.  I guess none of that is a real surprise based on recent results but St. Joes has to be concerned with the results since the return from Florida.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wordsmith on April 23, 2013, 09:58:59 PM
Holowaty OUT at EConn (or so it seems).  :o :o :o

http://www.ctnow.com/sports/hc-bill-holowaty-0424-20130423,0,4667787.story
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wildthngvaughn on April 29, 2013, 04:02:40 PM
Does anyone else feel that this years ECAC is going to be loaded with potential 30-win teams that could still get into the NCAA's?

Suffolk (28-10 w/ 4 to play) Possible at-large bid. If they win out and win ECAC, they will be 35-10 or 34-10.

Endicott (27-11 w/ 1 to play and conf. tour.) (assuming WNE wins CCC, if WNE loses, WNE will probably not enter ECAC as they should already be a lock for the NCAA) Possible At-large bid. Best possible record with ECAC title but no conf. title would be 35-13 or 34-13

Salve Regina (26-10 w/ 1 to play and conf. tour.) Best possible record with a ECAC title but no conf. title would be 34-12 or 33-12

Johnson & Wales (27-14 w/ 0 to play) if they win 3 ECAC games, would be a 30 win team come NCAA time.

MIT (22-8 w/ 3 to play and 2nd half of conf. tour.) most likely not a 30 win team, but possible at-large bid for the NCAA if they win the ECAC's. (assuming Wheaton wins NEWMAC, if Wheaton loses, Wheaton will probably not enter ECAC as they should already be a lock for the NCAA) Best possible record with ECAC title and no conf. title would be 30-10 or 29-10

Bridgewater St. (19-13-1) Not NCAA bound unless they win their Conf. Tour. but have quality wins over Wheaton and WNE

Salem St. (21-13) Not NCAA bound unless they win their Conf. Tour. only quality win is against Endicott

Babson, Mitchell, Husson, or Roger Williams (assuming that none of these teams win their conf. tour.) NESCAC and Little East don't participate as they are in their Conference Tournament)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on April 29, 2013, 04:35:24 PM
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on April 29, 2013, 04:02:40 PM


Suffolk (28-10 w/ 4 to play) Possible at-large bid. If they win out and win ECAC, they will be 35-10 or 34-10.






Suffolk could really help themselves out be beating USM on Sunday....
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wildthngvaughn on April 29, 2013, 06:10:37 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on April 29, 2013, 04:35:24 PM
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on April 29, 2013, 04:02:40 PM


Suffolk (28-10 w/ 4 to play) Possible at-large bid. If they win out and win ECAC, they will be 35-10 or 34-10.






Suffolk could really help themselves out be beating USM on Sunday....
Suffolk also plays MIT next Monday.  If Suffolk wins 3 out of 4 against Williams (2), Southern Maine, and MIT, then their record will be 31-11.  However, they don't have many quality wins.  Their best two wins are against Easten (23-11-1) and St Joe's (28-11). They also have 3 losses against St. Joe's.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Boggsy789 on April 30, 2013, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on April 29, 2013, 04:02:40 PM
Does anyone else feel that this years ECAC is going to be loaded with potential 30-win teams that could still get into the NCAA's?

Suffolk (28-10 w/ 4 to play) Possible at-large bid. If they win out and win ECAC, they will be 35-10 or 34-10.

Endicott (27-11 w/ 1 to play and conf. tour.) (assuming WNE wins CCC, if WNE loses, WNE will probably not enter ECAC as they should already be a lock for the NCAA) Possible At-large bid. Best possible record with ECAC title but no conf. title would be 35-13 or 34-13

Salve Regina (26-10 w/ 1 to play and conf. tour.) Best possible record with a ECAC title but no conf. title would be 34-12 or 33-12

Johnson & Wales (27-14 w/ 0 to play) if they win 3 ECAC games, would be a 30 win team come NCAA time.

MIT (22-8 w/ 3 to play and 2nd half of conf. tour.) most likely not a 30 win team, but possible at-large bid for the NCAA if they win the ECAC's. (assuming Wheaton wins NEWMAC, if Wheaton loses, Wheaton will probably not enter ECAC as they should already be a lock for the NCAA) Best possible record with ECAC title and no conf. title would be 30-10 or 29-10

Bridgewater St. (19-13-1) Not NCAA bound unless they win their Conf. Tour. but have quality wins over Wheaton and WNE

Salem St. (21-13) Not NCAA bound unless they win their Conf. Tour. only quality win is against Endicott

Babson, Mitchell, Husson, or Roger Williams (assuming that none of these teams win their conf. tour.) NESCAC and Little East don't participate as they are in their Conference Tournament)

Some of these soft scheduled schools should be discounted, like Salve Regina, JWU and RWU.   JWU swept by the LEC (boston, dartmouth, ric)  Salve lost to Boston and Dartmouth and snuck one out vs. RIC. 
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wildthngvaughn on April 30, 2013, 03:16:00 PM
Quote from: Boggsy789 on April 30, 2013, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on April 29, 2013, 04:02:40 PM
Does anyone else feel that this years ECAC is going to be loaded with potential 30-win teams that could still get into the NCAA's?

Suffolk (28-10 w/ 4 to play) Possible at-large bid. If they win out and win ECAC, they will be 35-10 or 34-10.

Endicott (27-11 w/ 1 to play and conf. tour.) (assuming WNE wins CCC, if WNE loses, WNE will probably not enter ECAC as they should already be a lock for the NCAA) Possible At-large bid. Best possible record with ECAC title but no conf. title would be 35-13 or 34-13

Salve Regina (26-10 w/ 1 to play and conf. tour.) Best possible record with a ECAC title but no conf. title would be 34-12 or 33-12

Johnson & Wales (27-14 w/ 0 to play) if they win 3 ECAC games, would be a 30 win team come NCAA time.

MIT (22-8 w/ 3 to play and 2nd half of conf. tour.) most likely not a 30 win team, but possible at-large bid for the NCAA if they win the ECAC's. (assuming Wheaton wins NEWMAC, if Wheaton loses, Wheaton will probably not enter ECAC as they should already be a lock for the NCAA) Best possible record with ECAC title and no conf. title would be 30-10 or 29-10

Bridgewater St. (19-13-1) Not NCAA bound unless they win their Conf. Tour. but have quality wins over Wheaton and WNE

Salem St. (21-13) Not NCAA bound unless they win their Conf. Tour. only quality win is against Endicott

Babson, Mitchell, Husson, or Roger Williams (assuming that none of these teams win their conf. tour.) NESCAC and Little East don't participate as they are in their Conference Tournament)

Some of these soft scheduled schools should be discounted, like Salve Regina, JWU and RWU.   JWU swept by the LEC (boston, dartmouth, ric)  Salve lost to Boston and Dartmouth and snuck one out vs. RIC.
Boggsy, any team that has 26+ wins no matter how easy their schedule, shouldn't be discounted when talking about the ECAC's.  Now if we are talking about the NCAA's that's a whole different thing.  The only way that Salve gets into the NCAA's is to win their tournament, or get to their tournament final with 3 wins against Endicott and WNE and then win the ECAC's with 3 wins against quality opponents (MIT, Suffolk, Endicott). That would give them a 35-12 record with 5 quality wins.  Granted that scenerio is next to impossible. 

Roger Williams on the other hand has absolutley no shot at the NCAA unless they win their tournament.  However, if they get to 25 wins, I could see them being one of a couple teams that could get the 7 or 8 seed in the ECAC's (if they have 8 teams and not 4).

You have to remember, nobody from the Little East or NESCAC participate in the ECAC's because they have their conference tournament at the same time.  So that eliminates a bunch of worthy participants.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wildthngvaughn on April 30, 2013, 03:23:26 PM
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on April 30, 2013, 03:16:00 PM
Quote from: Boggsy789 on April 30, 2013, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on April 29, 2013, 04:02:40 PM
Does anyone else feel that this years ECAC is going to be loaded with potential 30-win teams that could still get into the NCAA's?

Suffolk (28-10 w/ 4 to play) Possible at-large bid. If they win out and win ECAC, they will be 35-10 or 34-10.

Endicott (27-11 w/ 1 to play and conf. tour.) (assuming WNE wins CCC, if WNE loses, WNE will probably not enter ECAC as they should already be a lock for the NCAA) Possible At-large bid. Best possible record with ECAC title but no conf. title would be 35-13 or 34-13

Salve Regina (26-10 w/ 1 to play and conf. tour.) Best possible record with a ECAC title but no conf. title would be 34-12 or 33-12

Johnson & Wales (27-14 w/ 0 to play) if they win 3 ECAC games, would be a 30 win team come NCAA time.

MIT (22-8 w/ 3 to play and 2nd half of conf. tour.) most likely not a 30 win team, but possible at-large bid for the NCAA if they win the ECAC's. (assuming Wheaton wins NEWMAC, if Wheaton loses, Wheaton will probably not enter ECAC as they should already be a lock for the NCAA) Best possible record with ECAC title and no conf. title would be 30-10 or 29-10

Bridgewater St. (19-13-1) Not NCAA bound unless they win their Conf. Tour. but have quality wins over Wheaton and WNE

Salem St. (21-13) Not NCAA bound unless they win their Conf. Tour. only quality win is against Endicott

Babson, Mitchell, Husson, or Roger Williams (assuming that none of these teams win their conf. tour.) NESCAC and Little East don't participate as they are in their Conference Tournament)

Some of these soft scheduled schools should be discounted, like Salve Regina, JWU and RWU.   JWU swept by the LEC (boston, dartmouth, ric)  Salve lost to Boston and Dartmouth and snuck one out vs. RIC.
Boggsy, any team that has 26+ wins no matter how easy their schedule, shouldn't be discounted when talking about the ECAC's.  Now if we are talking about the NCAA's that's a whole different thing.  The only way that Salve gets into the NCAA's is to win their tournament, or get to their tournament final with 3 wins against Endicott and WNE and then win the ECAC's with 3 wins against quality opponents (MIT, Suffolk, Endicott). That would give them a 35-12 record with 5 quality wins.  Granted that scenerio is next to impossible. 

Roger Williams on the other hand has absolutley no shot at the NCAA unless they win their tournament.  However, if they get to 25 wins, I could see them being one of a couple teams that could get the 7 or 8 seed in the ECAC's (if they have 8 teams and not 4).

You have to remember, nobody from the Little East or NESCAC participate in the ECAC's because they have their conference tournament at the same time.  So that eliminates a bunch of worthy participants.
34-12 is their best possible record for Salve without winning the conference tournament, not 35-12. But add a quality win over Eastern Connecticut @Eastern as I missed that one. Still next to impossible to do though.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: wildthngvaughn on May 05, 2013, 07:23:00 PM
WNE goes down to Endicott in the CCC Championship.  Doesn't really change much as far as the NCAA's though. Here is my New England Regional as of right now.

1. Southern Maine
2. Wheaton
3. WNE
4.Endicott
5. St. Joseph's
6. Salem St.
7. Amherst
8. Daniel Webster

Eastern to NY. Possibly WNE to New York and Eastern would get the 4 seed with Endicott getting the 3.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on May 06, 2013, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on May 05, 2013, 07:23:00 PM
WNE goes down to Endicott in the CCC Championship.  Doesn't really change much as far as the NCAA's though. Here is my New England Regional as of right now.

1. Southern Maine
2. Wheaton
3. WNE
4.Endicott
5. St. Joseph's
6. Salem St.
7. Amherst
8. Daniel Webster

Eastern to NY. Possibly WNE to New York and Eastern would get the 4 seed with Endicott getting the 3.

My picks for regional right now:

1. USM
2. Wheaton
3. Endicott
4. St. Joes
5. Amherst
6. Salem St.
7. Husson (I'm guessing they win the NAC/NEAC auto bid)
8. Daniel Webster

WNEC(at large to NY) If Husson loses NAC/NEAC autobid, I would probably agree with your picks. If Husson does win autobid, they probably are not shipped to NY, they're far enough away from the Cape(320 miles)(570 miles to Ithica). I think Eastern needs a really good run in LEC to get in this year.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: OshDude on May 06, 2013, 08:37:38 PM
The NEAC and NAC are no longer joining forces on a Pool A. The NAC is a Pool B conference this season; the NEAC has a Pool A by itself.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on March 11, 2014, 08:36:04 PM
Wake up New England, Baseball is here. Beware of Nathan Franjillo, Colby Sawyer Freshman starts the season 10 for 17 with 5 dbls and a homerun.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on May 05, 2014, 08:35:33 PM
Time to try to start some action as Regional approaches.
Autobids so far:
     CCC ----- Endicott
     GNAC-----St. Joe's
     MASCAC--Worcester State
     NECC-----Mitchell
     NEWMAC-MIT
     NAC------Castleton State
Still in play: Best guess of winners:
     LEC------ECSU,/ USM---toss up probably both get a bid unless one completely folds in tourney
     NESCAC-Tufts

First Guess for Regional seeds
    1) LEC winner
    2) MIT
    3) LEC runnerup
    4) Tufts
    5) Endicott
    6) St. Joes
    7) Worcester State
    8) Mitchell
   Castleton State- shipped to New York

First guess, hope this starts some discussion
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: Stump on May 11, 2014, 06:27:57 PM
With all games done here's a revised guess before the actual picks:
1)ECSU
2)USM
3)Endicott
4)MIT
5)Worcester State
6)Wesleyan
7)St. Joes
8)Mitchell

Castleton to NY

I was surprised looking at strength of schedule numbers that NESCAC possibles(Tufts 97, Wesleyan 139) were as low as they were.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 14, 2014, 09:43:06 AM
Final     MIT     4     Endicott     6
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 14, 2014, 09:53:31 AM
Anyone else having trouble with the MIT vs Endicott video!!!???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 14, 2014, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 14, 2014, 09:53:31 AM
Anyone else having trouble with the MIT vs Endicott video!!!???




Yup, happens every year:  their video is such a downgrade from the LEC Tourney....
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 14, 2014, 10:00:05 AM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 14, 2014, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 14, 2014, 09:53:31 AM
Anyone else having trouble with the MIT vs Endicott video!!!???




Yup, happens every year:  their video is such a downgrade from the LEC Tourney....
Thanks HockeyFan, Now it seems they have put an audio link on!!  why they use Harwich facility , I will never know ???
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 14, 2014, 10:02:31 AM
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 14, 2014, 10:00:05 AM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 14, 2014, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 14, 2014, 09:53:31 AM
Anyone else having trouble with the MIT vs Endicott video!!!???




Yup, happens every year:  their video is such a downgrade from the LEC Tourney....
Thanks HockeyFan, Now it seems they have put an audio link on!!  why they use Harwich facility , I will never know ???


I hate the Harwich facility: played and watched many games there and it's an average to below average field....Central location I guess...
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 14, 2014, 01:06:03 PM
Final   (11)    Mitchell    4     ECSU        3



No Video. No live stats: great job!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 14, 2014, 04:42:41 PM
Congrats to Mitchell on a great win over ECSU this afternoon!!
However, the feed from Harwich MA, (no video, intermittent Live Stats), was terrible!!!
As well, Eastern could not play defense and ran themselves out of a couple of opportunities today.
Hopefully they regroup tomorrow!!!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 14, 2014, 10:08:41 PM
Final      WSU      4       USM      8
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2014, 09:32:03 AM
Final      ECSU      2      MIT    6



No Audio, No Video, No Live Stats!   Great job!
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 15, 2014, 11:43:36 AM
Great regular season and LEC tournament! Disappointing NCAA ???
Good Luck to USM going forward.
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2014, 12:38:39 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 15, 2014, 11:43:36 AM
Great regular season and LEC tournament! Disappointing NCAA ???
Good Luck to USM going forward.




It was a good run for you guys:  ECSU couldn't catch a break this week....
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2014, 01:02:28 PM
Final     WSU      2      SJC      4






Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on May 15, 2014, 03:16:47 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2014, 12:38:39 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 15, 2014, 11:43:36 AM
Great regular season and LEC tournament! Disappointing NCAA ???
Good Luck to USM going forward.




It was a good run for you guys:  ECSU couldn't catch a break this week....
Thanks Hockeyfan, but good teams make their own breaks, and Eastern just could not get it done from a defensive, offensive pitching standpoint :(.
Again, Good Luck to your Huskies.  Make it two years in a row to the CWS 8-)
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2014, 04:31:56 PM
Final    Endicott      4      Mitchell     2   
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2014, 08:05:04 PM
Final      USM      3     Tufts     2
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 16, 2014, 09:35:24 AM
Final     SJC      9        Mitchell      2
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 16, 2014, 01:37:09 PM
Final     Tufts     4        MIT      6
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 16, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
Final       USM      8      Endicott     4








Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 16, 2014, 08:37:24 PM
Final       MIT     4       SJC     3
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 17, 2014, 01:59:45 PM
Final      Endicott      7      MIT     3
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 18, 2014, 12:19:15 PM
Final      Endicott      1      USM     11

Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: ECSUalum on December 24, 2014, 02:01:13 PM
Collegiate Baseball Div. 3 Poll 12-23-14


Wisconsin-Whitewater No. 1 In
Collegiate Baseball's 2015
NCAA Div. III Pre-Season Poll

  Rank School (2014 Record) Points
  1. Wisconsin-Whitewater (44-7) 273
  2. Emory, GA (38-13) 270
  3. St. Thomas, MN (39-9) 268
  4. Linfield, OR (37-9) 265
  5. Cortland St., NY (36-10) 261
  6. Salisbury, MD (37-9) 258
  7. Southern Maine (37-15) 255
  8. California Lutheran (36-10) 253
  9. Concordia-Chicago, IL (39-7) 250
10. Marietta, OH (30-16) 248
11. Webster, MO (37-7) 245
12. Trinity, TX (33-10) 243
13. Rowan, NJ (31-12) 241
14. Wisc.-Stevens Point (32-13) 238
15. Kean, NJ (35-14) 235
16. Case Western Reserve, OH (34-12) 231
17. Eastern Connecticut St. (32-9) 229
18. Buena Vista, IA (37-9) 226
19. Birmingham-Southern, AL (35-12) 224
20. Shenandoah, VA (33-11) 220
21. Tufts, MA (34-9) 218
22. Baldwin Wallace, OH (30-20) 216
23. Amherst, MA (30-11) 213
24. Bridgewater, VA (36-14) 210
25. Adrian, MI (33-15) 208
26. Wesleyan, CT (31-12) 206
27. Endicott, MA (34-16) 202
28. Moravian, PA (32-12) 200
29. George Fox, OR (28-12) 196
30. Heidelberg, OH (31-13) 193
  Also Receiving Votes: St. John Fisher, NY (31-11), Rhodes, TN (33-17), Gettysburg, PA (33-8), Widener, PA (33-13), Ithaca, NY (26-10), MIT (27-15), Rutgers-Camden, NJ (30-13), Chapman, CA (30-13), Washington-St. Louis, MO (28-16), La Roche, PA (31-15), Rose-Hulman, IN (29-18), Worcester State, MA (25-17), Johns Hopkins, MD (22-18), SUNY-Old Westbury, NY (20-22), Oswego State, NY (21-13), Manchester, IN (26-17), Saint Joseph's, ME (30-15), Union, NY (26-12-1), Bethel, MN (23-12), Concordia, TX (31-14), Montclair St. (22-18), DeSales, PA (27-16), Haverford, PA (23-20), Wheaton, MA (27-16-1), Penn State Erie Behrend, PA (30-14), Redlands, CA (15-23), Keystone , PA (27-14), Misericordia, PA (31-15-1), Piedmont, GA (25-14), Rochester, NY (25-16), Anderson, IN (26-15).   

Source: Collegiate Baseball
Title: Re: BB: General New England Discussion
Post by: kscer on May 03, 2015, 04:45:34 PM
Congratulations to Jim Broughton on winning his 300th game recently. He has been coach of Colby Sawyer since it started Baseball 21 years ago, and really epitomizes what a D-lll program is all about. A small school in northern New England, Colby Sawyer faces many difficulties in recruiting for baseball and, because of weather and distance within the conference, a horrendous schedule. Definitely about the Student athlete. Congrats Jim, hope you make 500 wins.