Covid Impacts on Upcoming Season

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WUPHF

Quote from: PlaySimple on September 11, 2020, 02:00:33 PM
Quote from: WUPHF on September 11, 2020, 09:35:59 AM
I agree with Barry Alvarez as far as his advice, but I disagree with a policy that prohibits students from returning.  In my mind, students should be able to choose what works best for them.

I have to think that part of the motivation is to keep students from taking a gap semester or gap year.

I'm pretty sure that what Alvarez meant was that students would not be able to return as athletes. If a student has course work to finish up then I'm sure that they would not be prohibited from returning to a university. If a student-athlete has played four seasons of a sport, then I can't disagree with stance of not allowing them to return as athletes.

I mean, sure, I might agree with prohibiting students from returning after four seasons of varsity athletics, but as far as I can tell, he is telling seniors to come back for the Fall and Spring and graduate in May, even if a Spring season does not happen.  I am sure there would be exceptions.

gfal5

Does anyone know the rules surrounding college teams playing in a U23 league together?

Ejay

I know coaches who are entering their teams in U23 leagues, but they aren't practicing at the school and aren't coached by the coach.  So technically they're an independent club team and as such the NCAA has no jurisdiction over them.



Falconer

NPR recently ran this interesting report on higher education and the virus: https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/2020/09/16/913559377/fresh-air-for-sept-16-2020-coronavirus-on-college-campus?showDate=2020-09-16

A lot of the schools that tried fully to open have crashed and burned--that's well known. According to this report, smaller colleges might have a better chance to succeed. Nevertheless, the comments about the town-gown dynamic at some of those small-town schools (none mentioned by name) around 17:45 are particularly interesting and do seem consistent with what's gone down at some places in PA.

Some schools have been successful so far, including Messiah. They have a weekly count publicly visible here: https://www.messiah.edu/homepage/4331/messiah_university_covid-19_dashboard. Right now that number seems unusually low for a school in the 2500 range for undergraduate enrollment. Apart from what must be a high degree of self-discipline among students and employees, I wonder if the non-party-school reputation might have a positive role here, given the fact that many other schools have had to respond to off-campus parties and other gatherings that spread the virus.

What's happening in other parts of the country?

jknezek

W&L's dashboard is here: https://my.wlu.edu/covid-19-resources  It seems pretty reasonable so far.

Certainly better than our local h.s. which has had approximately half the kids go out for positive results or quarantine at least once since a mid August opening. On the upside, having half the kids out is the only way they are staying open 5 days a week, since about 25% of the teachers are out and there is no one willing to sub. My wife is a spec ed assistant and they shut down the spec ed kids the other day for a pair of positives. That freed up the department teachers and aides to sub throughout the rest of the school. So far, spec ed aids, assistant coaches, bus drivers, admin assistants, and principals and vice principals have all been drafting into "teaching" classes. Suffice to say, not much teaching is happening in those classrooms...

Ommadawn

It's interesting to see the variability in the dashboard formats across institutions.  Falconer's assertion about the potential for small colleges and universities to succeed seems to be borne out at a number of institutions, including Clark (https://www.clarku.edu/healthy-clark-dashboard/) and Western New England (https://www1.wne.edu/coronavirus/dashboard/index.cfm).

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Stryker

Guess RIT may be an exception then.  RIT's dashboard is here.     https://www.rit.edu/ready/dashboard
10 student cases and 2 staff cases since opening on August 19. Great statistics for a student population of approximately 19,000 students, about 16,000 undergraduate and 3000 graduate.

Falconer

Quote from: jknezek on September 25, 2020, 12:29:00 PMMy wife is a spec ed assistant and they shut down the spec ed kids the other day for a pair of positives. That freed up the department teachers and aides to sub throughout the rest of the school. So far, spec ed aids, assistant coaches, bus drivers, admin assistants, and principals and vice principals have all been drafting into "teaching" classes. Suffice to say, not much teaching is happening in those classrooms...
My daughter teaches early elementary music in a small city public school. She likewise has been assigned to assist other teachers with reading and math; music is not being taught right now.

y_jack_lok

I was unaware of these dashboards, so thanks for mentioning them. Looks like Randolph-Macon is in a similar spot as W&L with an on-campus positivity rate of about 4%-5%. However, when factoring in off-campus folks it jumps to 7.4%. Even 4% seems a bit high to me. https://www.rmc.edu/campus-life/protect/dashboard

TyWebb

Here is a link to quickly see how each individual school is doing. Not as detailed at the individual institutions dashboard but you can see
the number of infections per school. Once on the link scroll down to search by state or school name.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-college-cases-tracker.html

Falconer

On a happier note, the Falcons actually played tonight--against the Falcons. A 60-minute intra-squad scrimmage under the lights, with officiating and the whole works. For the soccer-starved out there, check out this amazing goal by SO F #8 Cole Christian from Midlothian VA. The sequence starts around 29:00: https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMensSoccer/videos/889252188569507/

They don't get any prettier than that!

And, in these times, it's OK to root for the Falcons--they also lost tonight.  :o

CC United

Trinity Texas just announced on their twitter feed that the Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference has approved an 8 game conference season in the Spring. Yes, I know, it hasn't happened yet and a lot can happen before then.  We can talk in May about whether this was a good or bad idea.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TrinitySoccerTX/status/1314266627173736448