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jknezek

Quote from: tigerfanalso on December 19, 2014, 11:17:19 AM
anyone have any insight into how many full time coaches are on staff at most competitive D3 programs and what the recruiting budget might look like ? Does recruiting budget run through the admissions office or through the athletic office, or combination of both ?

Someone send up the Pat Signal. I'd be interested in those answers myself but if I had to guess I'd say it varies wildly, especially the recruiting budget.

ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: jknezek on December 19, 2014, 11:53:08 AM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on December 19, 2014, 11:17:19 AM
anyone have any insight into how many full time coaches are on staff at most competitive D3 programs and what the recruiting budget might look like ? Does recruiting budget run through the admissions office or through the athletic office, or combination of both ?

Someone send up the Pat Signal. I'd be interested in those answers myself but if I had to guess I'd say it varies wildly, especially the recruiting budget.

Also guessing that it varies quite a bit.  I'll put my (incomplete) knowledge out there and people can add.

At Carnegie Mellon, from 2004-07 we had a full-time HC plus full-time OC (who was also the head golf coach) and full-time DC; for my first two seasons at least, the rest of the assistants were part-time coaches.  I remember that we hired a fourth FT coach the year that I was a graduating senior because I was a player rep on the search committee, and to my knowledge those four positions have remained full-time (HC, both coordinators, plus a fourth FT coach to do a lot of grunt work like video cutups, recruiting stuff, etc in addition to coaching a position group, which changes by year depending on the rest of the staff they have available).  As for recruiting - the HC and coordinators definitely traveled for a few weeks visiting schools and chatting up prospective kids in the winter/spring.  Mostly local stuff but also a few longer trips to Florida, California, Texas, etc where they'd be gone for a week or more at a time.

I vaguely remember reading that some of the smaller and less-competitive D3 schools did not employ any full-time coaches back then (and being really surprised that at least the HC position wasn't a FT job).  I don't know if that is still the case anywhere.

Like I said, very incomplete info here, just starting the discussion.
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Quote from: tigerfanalso on December 19, 2014, 11:17:19 AM
anyone have any insight into how many full time coaches are on staff at most competitive D3 programs and what the recruiting budget might look like ? Does recruiting budget run through the admissions office or through the athletic office, or combination of both ?

From my experience, I was on staff with four ft coaches and 4 pt and also one that had one FT coach and two restricted earnings and  4 pT

Think it varies from program to program and schools that have grad programs are able to offer GA spots which helps with recruiting efforts. If I had to take a guess the avg would be somewhere between 3 and 4

tigerfanalso

With the football season officially over, best wishes to all for a Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy New Year !!!!

hasanova

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Quote from: tigerfanalso on December 22, 2014, 03:03:12 PM
With the football season officially over, best wishes to all for a Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy New Year !!!!
Ditto, tfa!

hasanova

Congratulations to the following ODAC players named an All-American:

Satiir Stevenson, Sr. Guilford, Safety, 1st Team
Jordan Hartman, Sr. Bridgewater, Return Specialist, 1st Team
Holton Walker, Sr. Hampden-Sydney, WR, 2nd Team
JerMario Gooch, Jr. Guilford, CB, 2nd Team

Well played, guys!

HSCTiger74

   Merry Christmas to all our friends here on the ODAC board and to all the D3 family nationwide. Be safe and enjoy the holidays, and we'll see you in the New Year.
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abnrgr

welcome back all. 2 more months before spring camps :)
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tigerfanalso

Spring camps are hard to get excited about. Don't understand why D3 can't have contact during spring camp. How is an underclassman going to have a chance to earn a position and/or create competition for a position without playing real football?
Seems like a waste of time. I get the skill kids can showcase in 7 on 7 drills and the offense can work on timing, etc., but how do the smelly lineman showcase themselves in that type of environment ?

Scots13

Quote from: tigerfanalso on February 02, 2015, 10:59:15 AM
Spring camps are hard to get excited about. Don't understand why D3 can't have contact during spring camp. How is an underclassman going to have a chance to earn a position and/or create competition for a position without playing real football?
Seems like a waste of time. I get the skill kids can showcase in 7 on 7 drills and the offense can work on timing, etc., but how do the smelly lineman showcase themselves in that type of environment ?

There was almost full pad spring practice passed at this year's convention. I saw the numbers somewhere. It's was close.

I agree with you 99%. Not a waste of time though. The freshmen that had a harder time in the fall wrapping their heads around everything make huge strides. Many teams still have the same, although shorter, periods in spring practice. Linemen still get in there androot around like hogs. Teaches more use of hands and balance in my opinion...although I left practice plenty of times with a busted nose.

Hopefully next year there is a vote for at least shells. I would think that would be safer than no protection at all.
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I have nothing to back this up but I predict as many injuries occur in first 3 weeks of fall camp as there are in spring. Makes no sense.
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tigerfanalso

Well if those numbers are anywhere close to being accurate, put the pads on and play football. The purpose of spring ball is to improve your team, playing two hand touch will not get it done. I'll wager the players prefer contact & contact drills.

@d3jason

I played in d2 eons ago, but that was the best part of spring ball---putting on the pads and getting to scrimmage a lot. The spring game was always fun too.

hasanova

Quote from: @d3jason on February 03, 2015, 03:39:43 PM
I played in d2 eons ago, but that was the best part of spring ball---putting on the pads and getting to scrimmage a lot. The spring game was always fun too.
Where'd you play, @d3jason?

@d3jason

Mansfield University in Pennsylvania. They dropped their D2 program about 10 years ago and now play in the Sprint league with Army, Navy, Penn, Cornell and Princeton.