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#1
Region 2 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NEWMAC
March 12, 2018, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2018, 03:56:30 PM
Quote from: Hugenerd on March 12, 2018, 02:39:16 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2018, 12:36:50 PM
Again... if it was a foul, they are shooting at least one free throw anyway. They were in the bonus. He hit the free throw, second on the way as well.

I am not sure the nature of the call really changed the outcome, here.

Agree with you that that nature of the foul call had no impact on the game in retrospect, given he made both (including the second one, which he was trying to miss). However, the call in general obviously had a very big impact in deciding the outcome of the game.

Anyone is free to disagree with me, but I still believe that in any game, I hate to see it decided like that. Foul was still a borderline call in my opinion, would much rather see a game end on a team executing the play then a ref making a close call in the final second.

I hate even the premise that the refs should swallow their whistles. Many say, "let the players decide it." Part of letting the players decide it... is calling a foul on a player who decided (or even didn't) to foul. It might suck to put a player on the line to determine a game versus a play which is more dramatic... but so is taking a player down on a breakaway in soccer or ice hockey and giving them PK. It still should be called.

I think you are missing the point of my message. I didnt say anything about swallowing the whistle. The reason I didnt like the call is that I thought it was a borderline call. I would have had the same opinion of the call was made at the end of the first half. Yes, it further bothers me that it was to decide the game, but to me, it was just a very close call to make in that situation. Obviously the call was made and the result is decided, was just an anticlimactic ending to a great game.
#2
Region 2 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NEWMAC
March 12, 2018, 02:39:16 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2018, 12:36:50 PM
Again... if it was a foul, they are shooting at least one free throw anyway. They were in the bonus. He hit the free throw, second on the way as well.

I am not sure the nature of the call really changed the outcome, here.

Agree with you that that nature of the foul call had no impact on the game in retrospect, given he made both (including the second one, which he was trying to miss). However, the call in general obviously had a very big impact in deciding the outcome of the game.

Anyone is free to disagree with me, but I still believe that in any game, I hate to see it decided like that. Foul was still a borderline call in my opinion, would much rather see a game end on a team executing the play then a ref making a close call in the final second.
#3
Region 2 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NEWMAC
March 12, 2018, 12:35:54 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 11, 2018, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from: T990 on March 11, 2018, 11:47:44 AM
Can anyone tell me where a video replay is available for the MIT-Ramapo game?  Thanks.

It may not be available. NCAA/Turner has weird rules about this. Some schools are are ignoring them willingly or unknowingly. You might find it on Ramapo's website, but I am not positive.

Quote from: T990 on March 11, 2018, 11:50:59 AM
Quote from: Hugenerd on March 10, 2018, 08:43:57 PM
Real tough way to lose for MIT. They call a foul on a rebound with 0.9 s left in a tie game with Ramapo in the bonus.

I don't believe I have ever seen a non-shooting foul call with 0.9 sec left in a game before.  Ever.

To be fair, it was a shooting foul call. Mosely grabbed the rebound and knowing time was expiring threw up a prayer to try and beat the clock. Not unexpected and certainly not with the mentality of drawing a shooting foul call. From what I could see, it looked like he was being pushed out of bounds. If people want calls during the game, they have to also expect and see them at the end of games. I have seen plenty of calls in the final seconds. I applaud officials who call them because they don't alter how they call a game based on the clock.

BTW - you can tell it was a shooting foul because Mosely took two FTs and the first one no one contested (if my memory is right). MIT had not committed enough fouls for a double-bonus.

Quote from: TheOsprey on March 11, 2018, 12:01:33 PM
I saw the game and Moseley was driving towards the basket while three MIT players converged on him and someone got called for the foul before he got to the hoop.

As far as the last second shot, the pass was just over the half court and the MIT player did not get control of the ball totally and it fell to the court as time expired.  A shot was never attempted.

MIT should certainly be a favorite for the final four next year.  If my nephew gets into the school, I will certainly be a HUGE fan of them for the next four years. ;)

Moseley was driving? Bonacum took the final shot. Did I miss the pass to Bonacum? I was monitoring many games and was watching that, but maybe I misremembered how it ended. The foul was called on Bonacum's missed shot, Moseley getting the rebound and putting up a prayer from the baseline.

MIT's player seemed to get the ball clean and take the shot before the buzzer expired... but the camera operator turned into a fan and forgot to do their job, so hard to truly say what happened or how close the shot came. There was no video review available (something that needs to change in this weekend of the tournament IMO), so it would have been on the refs shoulders to call that without assistance (outside of the fourth official at the table).

MIT will certainly be a favorite for something... I think many schools have proven over time that just because you get back loaded doesn't mean a final four is even close to guaranteed. Actually... last time MIT made the final four, they returned the entire squad and did not have the same season (thanks to lingering injuries).

Dave, agree that they called it a shooting foul during the game. However, it seemed to be essentially a continuation call, as he appeared to  "shoot" from behind the backboard and the contact I could see from watching online was mainly while going after the rebound (you could see reaction from MIT players on court in surprise when it was called a 2 shot foul). I understand your point on consistency, but to decide a game on a borderline call like that (which, as a ref, you know will decide the game with <1sec), didnt do justice to a game that was so closely competed.
#4
Region 2 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NEWMAC
March 10, 2018, 08:43:57 PM
Real tough way to lose for MIT. They call a foul on a rebound with 0.9 s left in a tie game with Ramapo in the bonus.

Congrats to MIT on the great sason.

Good luck to Springfield in the Final 4.
#5
Region 2 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NEWMAC
March 09, 2018, 09:07:20 PM
Great showing for NEWMAC! Glad to see Jomard back.
#6
Region 2 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NEWMAC
March 08, 2018, 09:55:45 AM
Im the MIT alum on these boards in the Pittsburgh area! Hoping for a good showing this weekend by the Engineers.
#7
Thank you for sharing.
#8
No problem, great story. Was a strong showing for the UAA.
#9
Strong night for the UAA.  Women went 4-0.  Men 2-0.

The most competitive of the 6 was undoubtedly CMU at Hope, pulling out a great win.  CMU led nearly the entire way, until a Hope 3 put them ahead by 2 in the final minute.  CMU missed a shot with under 10 seconds to play, but Lisa Murphy got the offensive rebound (her 9th OREB of the night), put it in while getting hacked and made the FT to give CMU the lead with 5 seconds to go (which ended up being the final score).  Her line is unbelievable (as they have been the whole year).  25 points on 12-14 shooting and 14 boards.  What was most impressive tonight was her ability to play with foul trouble, as she played 38 minutes while getting her 3rd foul a couple minutes after the half time break and getting her 4th just into the 4th quarter (takes a lot of trust from the coach also).  CMU plays ONU next.

Hopefully the UAA has a similarly strong round of 32.
#10
Region 2 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NEWMAC
March 04, 2016, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: amh63 on March 03, 2016, 10:58:07 AM
WPI89.... Had the same thought wrt HN! 
Hughnerd....are you still  enjoying life in/ near Pittsburg?

I try to check in on the boards, but don't follow closely enough to post regularly. Still talk to Coach Anderson every once and awhile also...tough end of the season for them, but they have a lot of young talented players, so hopefully they are on the upswing.

We are still in the Pittsburgh area, actually moved into the suburbs (so even closer than we were before, which was about 1.5 hours out).  I coached my older daughter's 3rd grade team this year, so I have been taking her to some of the CMU women's games this year.  They have a big matchup tonight against Hope, so hopefully they get it done.  CMU women have a great coach and some really talented players.  Their All-American center, Lisa Murphy, shot over 75% from the field for the entire regular season, which is amazing considering the attention she draws in the post. Interested to see how they do tonight.

Anyway, good luck to the NEWMAC teams, would have been nice to have 3, but hopefully the 2 that made it represent well.
#11
Region 2 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NEWMAC
March 02, 2016, 11:50:11 AM
Quote from: rlk on March 01, 2016, 06:14:27 PM
WPI always plays us tough.  I can't think of when we last swept them.  In our 29-2 year, they were our lone regular season loss -- at MIT.

Last time MIT swept WPI was 2009-2010, the year after Jimmy Bartolotta graduated. That was the year MIT had Noel Hollingsworth transfer in, and had freshman Mitch Kates and Will Tashman (in addition to getting Billy Johnson back as a super senior).  However, it is definitely not a common occurrence...only time that I can remember.  In fact, Bartolotta never beat WPI in his career, going 0-10.  I was a grad assistant during his freshman year (05-06), and I remember losing both games by a total of 3 points (there was a big call at the end of the 2nd game at home, when Jimmy took a charge but was called for a block, that resulted in that 1 point loss).  In his senior year (08-09), when the team famously won the NEWMAC tourney and upset RIC in the first round of the NCAAs, WPI was upset in the NEWMAC semis by Springfield and Bartolotta shredded the Pride (as he usually did) in the finals and MIT won comfortably by 26.
#12
I guess you can tell I haven't been keeping up on the boards!

Caught about the last quarter and a half of today's game and was glad to see her out there (and thought I would post about it, but obviously didn't take the time to check the time stamp).
#13
Good to see Lindsay Poss return for CMU this weekend.  She was injured back early in the Chicago game, but despite pulling that one out, the CMU team didnt look quite like themselves without her going 0-3 and not being that competitive in those UAA matchups.

Her first game back on Friday, they played with a top 10 team on the road (NYU) and were a missed FT at the end of regulation away from sending it to OT.  They got back on track with a solid win at Brandeis this afternoon. 

Hopefully we will see big things from them going forward with the starting 5 back intact.  Look forward to hearing from Coach Hullah on Hoopsville tonight!
#14
I was at the CMU-Chicago game last night. Poss went down with an ankle a few minutes into the game, which explains some of the turnovers and it also seemed to take some time for the team to adjust to her absence.  Mayberger came in and played pretty well in her absence. Murphy didnt play her best, missing a few shots around the basket she usually makes. Hudepohl picked up the team when they were down in the second half. She was very effective making her own shot when the team needed it. Looking at her bio, she transferred from D1 Colgate (playing in 26 games as a freshman).

Chicago also played tough. They are well coached by a former CMU top 5 career scoring leader, Carissa Sain.

Will be interesting to see how CMU does tomorrow against their first ranked opponent.
#15
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Top 25 talk
January 19, 2015, 08:37:42 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 19, 2015, 05:05:15 PM
Call it an historic Top 25 on the men's side this week. No NESCAC team since February 25, 2002 and Johns Hopkins returns after a nearly seven year absence: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2015/01/no-nescac-teams-ranked - certainly thought provoking.

And in case you are curious, here is how I voted: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2015/01/19/daves-top-25-ballot-week-7-3/

Glad to see you are high on two NEWMAC teams...wonder what you will think of MIT when they pick up a win over the second of those two teams this week.  MIT has been playing a lot better the last 4, since the return of their pre-season All-American PF/C, Matt Redfield.