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So, I looked at the UWSP/UWP matchups from the past few years:

1/7/15 @UWSP 74 UWP 55 (UWSP had 1 conference loss this season, won the National Title)
2/7/15 UWSP 67 @UWP 55

2/13/16 @UWSP 60 UWP 57 (UWSP #5 in conference, UWP #7)
2/17/16 UWSP 72 @UWP 64

1/18/17 @UWP 76 UWSP 71 (UWSP tied #4 in conf, UWP #8 - Platteville's sole conference win this season)
2/15/17 @UWSP 61 UWP 56

1/20/18 @UWSP 80 UWP 74 (one of Platteville's two conference losses) (UWP #1 in conf, UWSP #2)
2/7/18 @UWP 56 UWSP 47 (one of Point's three conference losses) (Both teams made the Sweet 16)

1/19/19 UWP 61 @UWSP 60 (Platteville led by 8 at the half)
2/16/19 @UWP 55 UWSP 50 (Point led by 3 at the half)


I think the "conclusion" you can draw from looking at these is that this will likely be a close game. Two years ago (and further) is probably too far back... but interesting that Point was Platte's only win of the year two years ago.

If you look at the scores, it appears that last season and this, Point has had more success by NOT slowing the pace down, which they usually do. The last two games, though, Point has looked different on offense... moving the ball more and less holding and 1 on 1 as the shot clock runs out. That's come with the juniors getting into game and being scoring threats, as Tom mentioned above.

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Hey Stevens Point, now is a good time to start a 9-game winning streak. Just sayin'

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Sorry this was late, GT.

Better late than never though, I guess!

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Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 19, 2019, 11:30:31 pm »
Unfortunately, the Pointers haven't shown they can hang with the Titans, but as Greg Sager likes to say, "It's really hard to beat an opponent 3 times in one season!"

La Crosse takes on Platteville for a spot in the WIAC final on Saturday.

Point definitely hung with Oshy the last time out... Just couldn't seal the deal.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 19, 2019, 10:07:41 pm »
Hey Stevens Point, now is a good time to start a 9-game winning streak. Just sayin'

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 10, 2019, 09:56:53 am »
Big game in Naperville tonight in terms of Pool C positioning.

* North Central: .818 WP, .523 SOS, 2-1 RRO
* Wheaton: .695 WP, .571 SOS, 1-4 RRO

1st Central Region Ranking
1. Augustana
2. UW-Oshkosh
3. North Central
4. Wheaton

5. UW-La Crosse
6. UW-Stevens Point
7. UW-Whitewater
8. Chicago

(Both teams lost after this ranking came out.)

I'd think if Wheaton loses, they're done as a realistic Pool C candidate.  The best WP the Thunder could finish with, as a Pool C, is .679.

If NCC loses, they move from the end of the bubble to the wrong side of the bubble.  But they'd still be very much in the bubble picture. With a loss tonight, NCC could finish with a .778 WP. That would probably put the Cardinals in the conversation for one of the final Pool C spots...but not better than that.

So a real big game.

Crazy that the Central may have just one or two Pool C bids this year.

NC lost twice. Wheaton lost once. LaX lost twice. Point lost once. Whitewater lost once. Perhaps the only saving grace may be that your next team up will be in the board for a looking time! The NCAA committee may throw them a bone because they're tired of looking at them (that's one of those rarely discussed tertiary criteria...)  ::) :P ;D

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Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 06, 2019, 04:23:38 pm »
Biggest answer, not surprisingly, in the story on our website.

1) The story has been edited. When I originally read the story, that information was not added. There's no indication on the headline on the main page that the story has updated. Plus, Dave already linked to the story.
2) The news article includes video from the press conference, which is in addition to the d3sports.com coverage.

Gotcha. By the time you made your post, the update had long since happened. As in once we could get someone from UWSP on the phone.

Wasn't an intentional snub by any means! I totally support you guys and the exposure you've given our sport in particular and DIII in general for he last 20 years!

Your coverage of this (from my perspective) tough situation was very thorough. While there were some parts that I didn't agree with, it was the facts in the case, not the reporting that I had issues with. You and Dave did right by DIII and ultimately by Stevens Point in the whole affair.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 06, 2019, 01:14:30 am »
Biggest answer, not surprisingly, in the story on our website.

1) The story has been edited. When I originally read the story, that information was not added. There's no indication on the headline on the main page that the story has updated. Plus, Dave already linked to the story.
2) The news article includes video from the press conference, which is in addition to the d3sports.com coverage.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Hoops Bucket List
« on: February 06, 2019, 12:44:48 am »
UWSP x2 (Quandt + 1 Men's game at the Berg)
UWW
UWO
UWPlatte
UWStout
UWEC
UWLaX
UWRF (old gym)
UWSuperior
Wheaton (Centennial Gym and King Arena... Same gym, different configuration)
Elmhurst
North Central
IWU
Benedictine
Carthage (does a scrimmage count?)
Beloit (scrimmage)
St. Norbert (scrimmage)
Coe
Marian
Edgewood
Carroll
Carnegie Mellon
La Roche
Gustavus Adolphus
Puget Sound
Lawrence
Finlandia University

So that's 24, without the scrimmages or additional gyms. And ending in a big FU.

(though, honestly, FU was before most of the others... And FU is pretty little).

Plus Salem (2 trips, 4 games). And two games at the McDermott Center in Las Vegas.

Also been inside and played basketball (though not for a true game) at Lake Forest and Augustana.

Non-DIII

Michigan Tech
Viterbo
St. Francis (IL)
Trinity International
Marquette (exhibition)
UW Parkside (scrimmage)

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Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 05, 2019, 11:13:05 pm »
There's some video from the press conference here:

https://www.wsaw.com/content/sports/NCAA-wraps-up-UWSP-mens-basketball-violations-investigation-505374601.html

The biggest question was also answered in the presser: Bob Semling will remain as UWSP's head coach.

https://twitter.com/Bailey_WSAW/status/1092884899940483072?s=19

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Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 05, 2019, 04:56:15 pm »
I know there has been a myriad of speculation for the last two+ years on this...

Ultimately, what is a "Show of Cause?" And what does the two-year (vs. three year for Montgomery) look like?

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 03, 2019, 04:55:52 pm »
MHO is that the T on Peterson was completely bogus. I mean geez, he slapped the ball hard while holding it in his hands but that hardly merits a T. As far as “slamming” it down, that “slam” was about as hard as a 3 month old baby can hit. Really not much more than him just dropping the ball.
I can kind of see the one on Adom. Again, it wasn’t very hard, but he did give the Carroll player a little push. The problem was Adom was holding on to the guy for a long time before the ref called the personal foul. Had he called Adom when he first grabbed his guy the T probably would never have happened.

I think the ref interpreted Peterson dropping/rolling the ball as tossing it at the ref. I don't think that's what he did... But the man in stripes did a bit of a double take when he called the T.

I think the Adom one was worse in terms of calls. The ref who called the foul want there one who called the T... The original ref was handling the situation and talking to the players. Ref #2 also want standing right there, and given that the players were tied up, couldn't have had a view of what actually happened.

Both calls sure seemed suspect to me.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: January 23, 2019, 07:24:20 pm »
(Incidentally, has anyone ever gone to UW-Stout's basketball page and clicked on the link to "Coach Eddie Andrist's Personal Page"? It's under "Basketball Links" on the "Additional Links" drop-down. It's hilarious!)

 ???

I will regain beautiful skin! Miracle change in cosmetic dermatology

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: January 09, 2019, 06:33:19 pm »
One of our ace numbers-crunchers, along with KnightSlappy, is fantastic50, who is an associate professor of mathematics & computer science at Wooster. No moss grows on fantastic50, who has already posted his first regional rankings guesses on the Pool C board. Here's how his Central Region looks:

Central region
1) UW-Stevens_Point (10-2, 2-0 WIAC, 0.833 WP, 0.605 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
2) Augustana (13-1, 5-0 CCIW, 0.929 WP, 0.541 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
3) UW-Whitewater (11-2, 0-2 WIAC, 0.846 WP, 0.571 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
4) Wheaton_(Ill.) (10-4, 3-2 CCIW, 0.714 WP, 0.567 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
5) North_Central_(Ill.) (12-3, 4-2 CCIW, 0.800 WP, 0.525 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
6) UW-La_Crosse (9-4, 2-0 WIAC, 0.692 WP, 0.561 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
7) Chicago (8-4, 1-0 UAA, 0.667 WP, 0.571 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
8) UW-Oshkosh (12-1, 2-0 WIAC, 0.923 WP, 0.482 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
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9) Elmhurst (9-5, 4-1 CCIW, 0.643 WP, 0.585 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
10) Illinois_Wesleyan (9-5, 2-3 CCIW, 0.643 WP, 0.569 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
11) UW-Eau_Claire (9-4, 2-0 WIAC, 0.692 WP, 0.480 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)

I know that the above is more objective than subjective... but I (subjectively) think that this might look a little different:

1. Augie (^1, better WP, H2H win over UWSP)
2. UWSP
3. UWW
4. North Central (^1, Better WP, H2H win over Wheaton)
5. Wheaton (H2H win over Oshkosh)
6. Oshkosh (^2, WP much higher than those below)
7. UWL
8. Chicago

It just feels weird having Oshkosh so low. Their SOS is low, but they've competed well against their schedule. Big test tonight... Oshkosh travels to UWSP, so this could get shaken up (and their SOS will improve)

I think IWU would most likely be ahead of Chicago there due to the head-to-head result.

That's absolutely fair. TBH, I didn't look "below the line." I agree.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: January 09, 2019, 01:41:36 pm »
One of our ace numbers-crunchers, along with KnightSlappy, is fantastic50, who is an associate professor of mathematics & computer science at Wooster. No moss grows on fantastic50, who has already posted his first regional rankings guesses on the Pool C board. Here's how his Central Region looks:

Central region
1) UW-Stevens_Point (10-2, 2-0 WIAC, 0.833 WP, 0.605 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
2) Augustana (13-1, 5-0 CCIW, 0.929 WP, 0.541 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
3) UW-Whitewater (11-2, 0-2 WIAC, 0.846 WP, 0.571 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
4) Wheaton_(Ill.) (10-4, 3-2 CCIW, 0.714 WP, 0.567 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
5) North_Central_(Ill.) (12-3, 4-2 CCIW, 0.800 WP, 0.525 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
6) UW-La_Crosse (9-4, 2-0 WIAC, 0.692 WP, 0.561 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
7) Chicago (8-4, 1-0 UAA, 0.667 WP, 0.571 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
8) UW-Oshkosh (12-1, 2-0 WIAC, 0.923 WP, 0.482 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
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9) Elmhurst (9-5, 4-1 CCIW, 0.643 WP, 0.585 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
10) Illinois_Wesleyan (9-5, 2-3 CCIW, 0.643 WP, 0.569 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)
11) UW-Eau_Claire (9-4, 2-0 WIAC, 0.692 WP, 0.480 SOS, 0-0 vRRO)

I know that the above is more objective than subjective... but I (subjectively) think that this might look a little different:

1. Augie (^1, better WP, H2H win over UWSP)
2. UWSP
3. UWW
4. North Central (^1, Better WP, H2H win over Wheaton)
5. Wheaton (H2H win over Oshkosh)
6. Oshkosh (^2, WP much higher than those below)
7. UWL
8. Chicago

It just feels weird having Oshkosh so low. Their SOS is low, but they've competed well against their schedule. Big test tonight... Oshkosh travels to UWSP, so this could get shaken up (and their SOS will improve)

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Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: January 08, 2019, 01:26:06 pm »
https://d3hoops.com/top25/index

Oshkosh up to 5
Point up to 9
Whitewater down to 14

No one else got a vote



Results from Saturday (all of Wednesday's winners won Saturday)
UW Osh 77 Stout 75  Stout led by 9 with 6:43 left. Oshkosh finished the game on a 17-6 run over the last 7 minutes

UWSP 88 RF 68 All Point. 16 pt lead at the half, as many as 24 in the second.

UWEC 69 UWW 65 EC led by 10 in the first half - WW tied it at halftime and had an 8 pt lead before EC sealed the deal

UW LaX 80 UWP 76 Platte led by 10 in the first half and 8 at halftime. - The game was tied less than 3 minutes into the second half.  Back and forth until the 5-minute mark, when LaX turned it on and led by 10 under a minute before Platte hit a few shots for the final


Standings:
1. UWO 2-0
1. UWSP 2-0
1. UWEC 2-0
1. UWLaX 2-0
5. UWW 0-2
5. UWS 0-2
5. UWP 0-2
5. UWRF 0-2

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