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Title: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on December 29, 2005, 03:10:56 PM
Here are the baseball web pages for all of the NCAC schools, preceded by the NCAC site itself:

NCAC Baseball: http://www.northcoast.org/ba/ba.html

Eastern Division

Allegheny: http://www.allegheny.edu/athletics/baseball/index.php

Hiram: http://www.hiram.edu/athletics/menssports/baseball.html

Kenyon: http://athletics.kenyon.edu/x501.xml

Oberlin: http://www.oberlin.edu/athletic/varsity/baseball/Default.html

Wooster: http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/default.php

Western Division

Denison: http://www.denison.edu/athletics/ba_stats.html

Earlham: http://www.earlham.edu/~awpe/baseball/index.html

OWU: http://bishops.owu.edu/baseball.html

Wabash: http://www.wabash.edu/sports/baseball

Wittenberg: http://www4.wittenberg.edu/news/athletics/baseball/index.html
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 29, 2005, 03:35:34 PM
Welcome aboard NCAC and woosterbooster!  Thanks for the posting.

This should be fun.  I encourage posting hyperlinks to stories of interest, to posting scores and game summaries, and other things of interest.

This will be a real "low-budget" operation, but most of us know how to use the tools that Pat has provided! :)

Good luck NCAC baseball fans...the "hot-stove" league is in session!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on December 29, 2005, 05:54:07 PM
Thanks for getting this set up.  I know I will be checking in on this site once the season starts up. 

Looks like Wooster has just reloaded as usual.  They lose the national POY in Ullman and another AA in Frank and yet they are still the #1 team in the country.  I must say, I was a bit surprised to see that, but they do return their entire picthing staff, and they never seem to be at a shortage of bats in that lineup.  Should be a fun spring to watch.  Does anyone happen to know if Wooster will be getting more home games this season?  I seem to recall that they didn't have too many last season.  I haven't checked out their schedule yet.  Maybe that would help? ::)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: WoosterFAN on December 29, 2005, 09:19:07 PM
I have been looking but I do not see the preseason rankings for baseball.  Could you please post a link?  And by my count Wooster only lost the two All-Americans and the whole left side of infield.  Reload?  Let's hope so.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on December 29, 2005, 11:22:23 PM
QuoteI have been looking but I do not see the preseason rankings for baseball.  Could you please post a link?
[/i]Woosterfan -

Back out of this this topic and look under "DIII Baseball Polls".  The poll is in there, as is it's source, baseballnews.com

Jack
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on December 30, 2005, 01:52:36 AM
QuoteDoes anyone happen to know if Wooster will be getting more home games this season?

Wooster will play 16 home games on 11 dates, which is quite a few more than last season (all of which I missed due to a broken ankle).  Their schedule is posted, but there are still a few unlisted opponents on the Florida trip.

Wooster's 2006 roster is also posted.  Riley Enos, a pitcher with lots of promise but who had arm problems last season, seems to no longer be on the team.  The oddity is that it looks like a younger brother of his, Oliver, a catcher/infielder (another oddity) is an incoming freshman.

Wooster's pitching staff has added yet a third Samson brother, Michael, who will follow in the footsteps of senior Walt and sophomore Adam.  Michael is listed at 6' and 200, which would make him the biggest of the three.  He's another lefty.

Jack

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on December 30, 2005, 11:40:39 AM
Quote from: WoosterFAN on December 29, 2005, 09:19:07 PM
And by my count Wooster only lost the two All-Americans and the whole left side of infield. Reload? Let's hope so.
WF, I'm just assuming they must have a lot of talent coming up to lose two 1st Team AA's and still be ranked #1.  They do have two 2nd Team AA's returning in Jon Oliver and Pat Christensen.  Christinsen happened to be the national newcomer of the year as well last season.  Their pitching staff is loaded, which I'm guessing is the main reason behind their lofty preseason ranking.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: earlhamalum on December 30, 2005, 01:00:25 PM
Wooster Booster- U accidently put hiram's web-page for Denison... just wanted to let you know.

Second of all... even though Earlham is in my name and i played baseball for four-years i'm going to have to find another  fav. NCAC baseball team... since I mean i'll keep up with EC..... i'm not just to sure who it is going to be.  Wittenberg is out of the picture for sure.  Wabash is close to being out of the PIcture.  I always liked the way OWU played the game... and Denison had some pretty good years.  Both those teams have a lot of class and wabash for the most part...  I'll most likely stay in the West.. :)   

I don't think i can go for Wooster... only because in two sports i never beat them ONCE... good news.. i'm 0 For 0 agaist the Scots. :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on December 30, 2005, 01:34:54 PM
QuoteWooster Booster- U accidently put hiram's web-page for Denison... just wanted to let you know.

Thanks for catching that.  I want to re-align that post anyway, but can't yet, because I don't have the "edit" feature.  If Pat gives it to me, I'll make the fix.

I totally agree with you about both Denison and OWU.  OWU of course very good for years, Denison on the rise, and both classy programs.

A few years ago, during the NCAA regionals over at Thurman Munson Field in Canton, when both Wooster and OWU were involved, there was a rash of terrible weather.  Big-time thunderstorms, and a tornado actually passed by just to the north. The games were delayed, of course, and while waiting out the rain at a nearby Subway I ran into some of the OWU players.  We talked for a while and I was really impressed.  Whenever Wooster's not involved in a game, I'm an OWU fan.

Now, if you want my opinion about Wittenberg or Allegheny... ;-)

Jack


Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on December 31, 2005, 05:41:07 PM
I've noticed another "missing" player from Wooster's 2006 roster besides pitcher Riley Enos.  Ross Yoder, last season's starting secondbaseman, who should only be a junior this year, isn't listed. He was very solid on both sides of the ball last year, and if he really isn't returning, he'll be missed.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ghostface on January 01, 2006, 12:15:34 PM
I a little biased but who are some of the best players in the league.

OWU's Kyle Sherman is a great pro prospect. Who else has that potential in the league?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on January 05, 2006, 01:32:29 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on December 31, 2005, 05:41:07 PM
I've noticed another "missing" player from Wooster's 2006 roster besides pitcher Riley Enos.  Ross Yoder, last season's starting secondbaseman, who should only be a junior this year, isn't listed. He was very solid on both sides of the ball last year, and if he really isn't returning, he'll be missed.
Ross transferred to Mt. Vernon Nazerene.  There was a writeup in the Wooster Weekly about the Scots' preseason #1 ranking and it was mentioned in there.  That means that Wooster will have to replace three fourths of their infield.  Coach Pettorini did mention that he's got a couple of pretty good recruits to fill SS and 3rd base.  As for Yoder's spot at 2nd, I'm sure they have someone to step up and fill that too. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 05, 2006, 10:01:43 AM
That's too bad about Yoder, he'll definitely be missed.  I wonder if the Scots will once again be considering moving Mike Barone into the infield as was a possibility before the beginning of last season when they were unsure of the return of Luke Ullman.

Jack
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on January 05, 2006, 11:51:51 AM
Oh sweet...an NCAC baseball board.  I'm positively giddy. 

Wabash doesn't have a roster up yet and I hesitate to talk about who's back or not back because Wabash's baseball team seems to have a lot of turnover.  I think things have stabilized over the last few years...here's hoping this is the year Wabash can break through and get into the NCAC semis. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: kcreds on January 06, 2006, 04:09:18 PM
Wally, I'm with ya, I am very excited about having this board. I learned so much about NCAC football this year by following the football board and now I can lean on you guys to become more knowledgeable about DIII baseball. The only team I am familiar with is Marietta and they have a great tradition. I now will be getting to know the OWU program a lot more since Jr. will be playing there. He is ecstatic about the program and he seems to really like their new coach, Durant. Jr. is a catcher and my understanding is that Durant played catcher at Ohio State. Go Bishops!

Kudos to Ralph Turner.

Here is to getting to baseball weather soon!

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on January 12, 2006, 06:55:19 PM
NCAC/D3 Fans,
Very excited to see this new baseball link to D3sports.com.  I have followed the football posts since the 2002 season but was never a poster.  Now I have to get in the game since this is/was my sport.  I am 15 years and over 1,000 miles removed from C'ville and the NCAC so I mainly use this site to obtain inside news not provide it - but I'm sure I will have a few opinions now and then.
Can't wait for the season to get underway.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on January 17, 2006, 12:51:57 AM
Quote from: kcreds on January 06, 2006, 04:09:18 PMHere is to getting to baseball weather soon!

I don't know where you are but it's been baseball weather here in South Texas for about 3 weeks.

My law school alma mater is kicking off their season in 3 weeks!!!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on January 21, 2006, 10:33:23 PM
Where are NCAC teams headed for early season baseball?  Wabash is breaking from their traditional Florida trip and opting instead for some cactus ball in Arizona to start their season. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on January 22, 2006, 12:12:11 AM
Wooster plays in the Ft. Myers area during spring break; I gather this is a more-or-less permanent arrangement.  This season, the Scots are scheduled to play 17 games in Ft. Myers in 14 days (March 12-25), including four official conference games (vs. Oberlin). 

Scots' baseball schedule (http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/schedule.php)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Tezbaseball on January 22, 2006, 12:25:09 AM
Interesting site. You can see by where a MLB player went to school.

http://baseballreference.com/schools/
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 22, 2006, 02:17:55 AM
Wooster plays in the "Gene Cusic Classic", as David said in Ft. Myers, which is a permanent event that brings together many DII and DIII teams over a six-week period.  Most schools go down for a period of about two weeks.  They have a website which shows this year's teams, but it appears to be down.  If I remember, I'll see if I can get a working link tomorrow.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 22, 2006, 10:21:50 AM
Here's the link to the Gene Cusic Classic in Ft. Myers.  The link was operating this morning.  Denison, Hiram, Oberlin, and Wooster seem to be the four NCAC schools that will play ballgames down there.

http://www.leeparks.org/cusic/cusic.htm
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on January 22, 2006, 01:35:41 PM
Does anyone know what prompted the change of venue for the Wabash spring trip?  Does the fact that we have some Arizona-based players and the opportunity to tap into this rich baseball recruiting area play any role?

As a westerner, I always felt we should try a spring trip to Texas, Arizona or California.  The weather is usually better than Florida - warmer than the Atlantic Coast and drier than the Gulf Coast.  Trouble is matching up with other DIII programs.

I was always envious of Wooster's 2 week spring trip.  Wabash has never had more than 1 week and typically 6-7 games in the sunshine state.  Just one of many reasons Wooster's program is one of the elite.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 22, 2006, 07:38:52 PM
Bash, you post about "Spring Training" in Texas or California is interesting.

The ASC begins in-division play on March 10th-11th with the 3-game series.  Marietta and Neb. Wesleyan are playing at McMurry on Mar 14th and Mar 15th.

There are excellent teams down here.  The ASC has 16 teams.  The SCAC-West has 5 more. Independent UDallas is always looking for games. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on January 23, 2006, 10:23:28 AM
Wabash had been traveling down to Ft. Meyers for the Cusic Classic for the last I don't know how many years.  They usually stop along the way for a doubleheader at places like Oglethorpe, LaGrange, or any other school on the way down to Florida. 

I don't know the reason for going down to AZ this spring.  Maybe a change of pace...maybe to look into recruiting.  Who knows.  From what I can gather, this AZ invitational is run by the same people who run some of the FL spring invitationals and this is the invitational's first year.  I'm guessing the experience will be about the same as the Florida trips...just in a different locale. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: kcreds on January 23, 2006, 01:24:16 PM
OWU is going to Port Charlotte, FL. They will play 2nd ranked Cortland State, 5th ranked Rowan, Wisconsin-Oshkosh, and 4 other teams. 11 games in 7 days, oh to be young and have that opportunity again. I really envy those guys. OWU, weather permitting, will open up with Ohio U. before they leave for FL. That game will be very interesting, especially depending upon who OU will pitch and how many.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: WallyFS4 on January 23, 2006, 07:23:10 PM
Can't wait for the season to get here.  It's nice to see a site for the greatest game ever invented.  I rather be watching football, but nothing beats the National Pastime to play.  As always.

WABASH ALWAYS FIGHTS!
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Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on January 23, 2006, 09:33:08 PM
Ralph,

My post re: Texas/California trips for Wabash was not a knock on the ASC or SCIAC.  In fact more the opposite.  I'm not sure a Wabash team could match up very well with them that early in the season given the lack of outside practice time in January/February compared to the southern teams.  The beauty of the massive spring exodus to Florida of teams east of the Mississippi is that the snowbird teams can play each other down there - kind of evens the playing field.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: smedindy on January 23, 2006, 10:46:22 PM
I think it's kind of refreshing that Wabash gets to Arizona. Actually, it's better - there's less chance of a rainout, so they could get more games in.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 24, 2006, 01:48:04 AM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on January 23, 2006, 09:33:08 PM
Ralph,

My post re: Texas/California trips for Wabash was not a knock on the ASC or SCIAC.  In fact more the opposite.  I'm not sure a Wabash team could match up very well with them that early in the season given the lack of outside practice time in January/February compared to the southern teams.  The beauty of the massive spring exodus to Florida of teams east of the Mississippi is that the snowbird teams can play each other down there - kind of evens the playing field.

Bash, I did not take it as a knock.  I realized that the Texas teams were into Division/Conference play and so they might not have their best pitching available.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: WoosterFAN on January 25, 2006, 10:35:06 AM
Some news on one of the new Wooster kids..I guess we have three to replace Yoder and the two seniors.

"Sheldon Steiner, from Dalton, Ohio, played first base, batted .331, and led the Larks in almost all offensive categories.
      He set a school record for career hits with 79. He played high school baseball at Central Christian High School in Kidron, Ohio, and will continue his career at The College of Wooster (Ohio).
      Steiner was named to the all-region team for the second consecutive year."
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 25, 2006, 10:53:16 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 22, 2006, 07:38:52 PM
Bash, you post about "Spring Training" in Texas or California is interesting.

The ASC begins in-division play on March 10th-11th with the 3-game series.  Marietta and Neb. Wesleyan are playing at McMurry on Mar 14th and Mar 15th.

There are excellent teams down here.  The ASC has 16 teams.  The SCAC-West has 5 more. Independent UDallas is always looking for games. 

Ralph--The SCAC homepage doesn't have the 2006 baseball schedule posted but on the Millsaps page it shows that they open conference play by hosting Hendrix on Feb. 18 & 19, and the next weekend Millsaps will be at Trinity for a big series.  It nice that these southern teams have the opportunity to play so early but the SCAC also plays their league tournament early and the winner has a long wait before playing an opening round game in the NCAA's.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on January 25, 2006, 12:44:26 PM
Quote from: WoosterFAN on January 25, 2006, 10:35:06 AM
Some news on one of the new Wooster kids..I guess we have three to replace Yoder and the two seniors.

"Sheldon Steiner, from Dalton, Ohio, played first base, batted .331, and led the Larks in almost all offensive categories.
      He set a school record for career hits with 79. He played high school baseball at Central Christian High School in Kidron, Ohio, and will continue his career at The College of Wooster (Ohio).
      Steiner was named to the all-region team for the second consecutive year."


But aren't the holes on the left side of the infield (2nd, short, 3rd?)  I wonder if this kid can play elsewhere on the diamond, or maybe move out to left and move Barone to the infield (a possibility suggested by Wooster Booster on another page?) 

By the way, who are the Larks?  Central Christian is the Crusaders, unless they've recently changed names (although Larks would be a good name change for them,) and Dalton is the Bulldogs.  Did this gentleman transfer from a JuCo, or are the Larks perhaps a summer-league team?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 25, 2006, 02:31:02 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on January 25, 2006, 12:44:26 PM
By the way, who are the Larks? Central Christian is the Crusaders...

Central Christian did change names a few years ago, but not to the Larks.  They're now the Comets.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on January 25, 2006, 11:12:42 PM
I've answered my own question; the Larks are from Hesston College, a Mennonite JuCo in Hesston, KS, and a not-uncommon destination for students from eastern Wayne and Holmes Counties.  In fact, there were 3 Hesston Larks named to the first team Juco all-region last season, and all three were from Central Christian or Hiland High Schools. 

NJCAA All-Region VI First Team Includes Three Hesston College Baseball Players (http://www.hesston.edu/NEWSPORT/archives/2004Spring/040708baseball.htm)

I'm guessing that Sheldon Steiner played for Hesston for two years (he was on this all-region team both years), and will come in to Wooster's lineup as a junior.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 26, 2006, 12:05:51 AM
I've heard of that school; some of my old volleyball girls considered going there, but I don't think that any did.  I didn't know that it was a JuCo, though; they didn't tell me that.

Ironic.  Wooster loses Ross Yoder, who would be a junior secondbaseman and is from Hiland high school in Holmes County, because he is transferring from the certainly more liberal and secular environment of Wooster to Mount Vernon Nazarene, a Christian school.

But then, here comes this Sheldon Steiner of Central Christian high school in Wayne County followed by a Mennonite JuCo, in Kansas no less, to play for Wooster and to balance out not only the baseball angle but the religious also.  You just never know.  :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on January 26, 2006, 01:11:38 AM
MVNU is a pretty staid place (or at least it was, back in my day, but I bet it hasn't changed much), and certainly less "worldly" than Wooster, but it's also a place that fields some pretty darn good sports teams.  They have a splendid baseball tradition, including Tim Belcher, the #1 overall pick in the 1983 draft.  They're just off the bottom of the top 25 in the NAIA preseason poll (http://naia.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/111605aaa.html). 

Most of the East Holmes Yoders are Mennonite (or Amish), and I don't know what relationship the Mennonites have to the Nazarenes.  But if I had to guess, I'd guess that Ross Yoder transferred more for baseball reasons than religious ones.  Maybe scholarship reasons as well.

MVNU is also participating in the Gene Cusic Classic, at the same time as Wooster (Mar. 16-25), but won't face the Scots.  They will play Ohio Wesleyan at home in March, and have a home-and-home scheduled with Capital for before and after the Ft. Myers trip. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on January 26, 2006, 01:33:21 AM
From the Scots 2006 Baseball outlook (http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/outlook.php), regarding the holes at the 4-5-6 positions:

"The Scots may go from one end of the experience spectrum to the other, as leading candidates to take over their roles are newcomers Sheldon Steiner and John Quimby. Steiner, a third baseman, is actually a junior, coming to Wooster from Hesston (Kan.) College, while Quimby could start right away as a freshman shortstop.

There will be a third new starter in the infield, too, at second base. Junior Mike Barone is one option there or he could remain in left field, where he has started the last two seasons, if another player emerges such as Bubba O'Donnell or Brad Stuetzer, both sophomores. Either way, Barone will find his way into the lineup as a .319 career hitter, including .325 with eight homers and 37 RBI during 2005, which earned him second-team all-conference honors. O'Donnell, who could also be a factor at third base, is the team's best defensive player, according to Pettorini, and Stuetzer has taken great strides offensively and is sure-handed, too."
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 26, 2006, 01:38:42 AM
It certainly could be a baseball reason, but I wonder.  Yoder probably had the second base job locked up for the next two seasons on what is always a very good team.  (Not that Mt. Vernon isn't, of course.)

Maybe it is money, as Wooster is pricey and most of the NAIA schools in the area are much less costly besides offering the possibility of scholarships.

It could also be the manner of coaching.  Tim Pettorini can really go off sometimes, and not all players are built to handle that, or feel that they need to.

Late addition: Uh oh. That 2006 Outlook is new.  Thanks!  I was just looking for that this morning and it wasn't there.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on January 26, 2006, 01:44:28 AM
Have you ever noticed that your Steve Moore and my Woody Allen have adopted the same posture?  Do you think Steve Moore is wondering if there is a God?  Or is Woody thinking about how to come up with a big defensive stop on this possession?  :D
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: smedindy on January 26, 2006, 08:40:58 AM
I don't think Woody would bring the...intensity...as a coach, but Moore probably would be out of his league on the set. Perhaps.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 26, 2006, 10:31:18 AM
I'm not sure about Steve Moore, but Woody may be pondering how to reclaim some lost love, ala Dobie Gillis and Thalia Meminger.

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farkski.com%2F%7Ejwood%2Fdobie6.jpg&hash=c1959557941b876f79aa46116621d4fe86ba548e)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on January 26, 2006, 08:28:01 PM
 :D

Nice juxtaposition of photos; but Steve might not appreciate being compared to Dobie!  ;)

By the way, R.I.P. Maynard G. Krebs.  :(

Time to change my avatar, anyway, to something more appropriate to my post total (if only for a fleeting moment.)

Open the pod bay doors, HAL!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: seinfeld on January 27, 2006, 10:57:09 AM
Ross Yoder won't be playing baseball for anyone anytime soon, unless its for the local jail softball team:

http://www.the-daily-record.com/article.php?pathToFile=/archive/01212006/news/&file=yoderFormerathletejailed.txt&article=1&tD=01212006
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on January 27, 2006, 09:40:27 PM
Holy cow!  :o  What goes on in East Holmes, anyway?  They had a sexually predatory elementary school music teacher recently convicted, too. 

I don't think he's going to be made very welcome at MVNU!  :-\
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 27, 2006, 10:21:42 PM
Like your new avatar better!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: WoosterFAN on January 29, 2006, 11:24:49 AM
Some info on Quimby since according to the Season Preview he might be starting.  It looks like he was at least a two season starter for North Allegheny HS near Pittsburg.  NAHS is in the largest division in PIAA and last year went 23-2 before losing in the state semi-finals to end of 23-3.  The previous year they reached the state quarterfinals.
   He was a Pittsburg Post-Gazette WPIAL All Star and a WPIAL Class AAAA Section 1 All-Star.  He led the team in HRs(6), triples(6) and RBIs(30) and battled .416 in 77 ABs.  This kid could be stud!!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: WoosterFAN on January 29, 2006, 11:35:14 AM
Another newcomer: Anthony Trapuzzano:  WPIAL Baseball Coaches Association All Star for Class A (I guess the smallest in West. PA)  After the first round of the playoffs he was 5-0 with a 1.00 ERA and 72 strikeouts in 40 innings.  Another stud??
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: WoosterFAN on January 29, 2006, 11:55:03 AM
Last one I am going to research:  Oliver Enos: Three a perfect game (5 innings, mercy rule with 12 Ks and went 2-4 w/ HR..could not find much else on him except that he was best picture on best best small school team in Central VA.
Wow!!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on January 29, 2006, 01:16:58 PM
Wow, I can't believe that about Yoder! 

Thanks for the info on those newbies WF.  They sound very promising and also like they could make an immediate impact to this team.  This weather here in Ohio has got me jonesing for spring and baseball.  Of course, this type of weather won't be anywhere to be found once Wooster's home schedule starts up! ;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: kcreds on January 29, 2006, 03:39:00 PM
When I think of D3 baseball in Ohio, I think of Marietta and Ohio Wesleyan. What has Wooster done in recent years to put their program on top of the National Hill? It appears they do an excellent job of recruiting. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on January 29, 2006, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: kcreds on January 29, 2006, 03:39:00 PM
When I think of D3 baseball in Ohio, I think of Marietta and Ohio Wesleyan. What has Wooster done in recent years to put their program on top of the National Hill? It appears they do an excellent job of recruiting.

kcreds,  allow me to fill you in on a secret.  Wooster has been on the national scene in DIII baseball for quite some time.  Marietta and OWU both have storied and successful programs, but Wooster's history is arguably as storied and successful as those two programs as well.

Let's see, Wooster has played in the Small College World Series 4 times since 1989.  They were in the championship game in 1997 and finished 3rd there last year.  Coach Pettorini's winning percentage is only .713 over 24 seasons at the helm of the Scots program.  Wooster has won a record 10 NCAC tournament championships (which would be more than OWU).  Wooster has also qualified for the postseason 15 out of the 24 years that Pettorini has been head coach.  That is just a little of what Wooster has done in recent years to put their program at the top of the national hill.

Here is a link if you'd like to read up on just how far back the Wooster baseball tradition goes:

Wooster's Baseball History (http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/archives/history.php)

kcreds, if you read the link, I think you will find that Wooster baseball has been around a while and they have been very good for quite a while.  They have not just suddenly appeared on the national scene like you seem to suggest.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 29, 2006, 04:16:49 PM
Quote from: WoosterFAN on January 29, 2006, 11:55:03 AM
Last one I am going to research: Oliver Enos: Three a perfect game (5 innings, mercy rule with 12 Ks and went 2-4 w/ HR..could not find much else on him except that he was best picture on best best small school team in Central VA.
Wow!!

Now I'm confused.  Oliver Enos is listed on the Wooster roster as a catcher/infielder.  In the "Outlook", it's mentioned that he might play some outfield if not behind the plate.  But now it turns out that he was a pitcher in high school, and a good one.  This guy sounds interesting, to say the least.

I've been assuming that Oliver is the younger brother of Reilly Enos, the Wooster pitcher of the last two years who is no longer on the roster, but is, I recall, also from Virginia.  Do you know if this is so, and what happened to Reilly?  He showed lots of promise two years ago as a freshman, but was mostly injured last season. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: kcreds on January 29, 2006, 04:22:07 PM
ScotsFan: Wow, you must of really thought I was being offensive, that was not my intention. I have been around baseball in the southern part of Ohio for more years than I care to mention. I know how storied Marietta is and OWU but forgive my ignorance on Wooster's success. I didn't want to go to their website and read a lot about them. I just wanted the cliff notes version.  It appears to me from your comments that they have an excellent coach and he may very well be the reason for their success. I will do my part to better inform those that are just as ignorant as I in this area. Good luck to the Scotts this year. Go Bishops!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on January 29, 2006, 04:25:30 PM
My gosh, ScotsFan, it was a simple innocent question, not a personal attack on the integrity of the Wooster baseball program.  And I think it was a reasonable question, as well; even I think first of Marietta when I think of small college baseball in the midwest, and I went to Wooster! 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on January 29, 2006, 04:58:06 PM
The man asked a question which I found a bit odd.  It's not like Wooster hasn't crossed paths with Marietta and OWU on a regular basis.  I was just answering the man's question!  He asked what Wooster has done in recent years and I filled him in and also let him know that Wooster has been just as prominent as the 2 schools he brought up!  Like I said, I just found it kind of interesting that someone could be abreast of the success at Marietta and OWU, and not know Wooster has been in the mix with both of them for years.  That is where I was coming from.  Sorry I didn't give a more dignified answer to such an innocent little question as you might have done.  I just figured he wanted a little history lesson.  It seems he needed one from his question!   ???
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: smedindy on January 29, 2006, 05:51:16 PM
Scotsfan - a little defensive, eh? Taking notes from the LG football posters??  :D

I thought the tone could have been more cordial and less confrontational.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: kcreds on January 30, 2006, 11:03:37 AM
ScotsFan and whoever wants to repond: I did a little research this time and discovered that since 2000 OWU and Wooster have 3 conference titles each. This will be the rubber match year. Does OWU have a chance? Is there another NCAC school that may have the talent to knock them out? Obviously Wooster is the favorite but give me some odds. I know it is early but we are already talking favorites for football next year so why not baseball now. I'm also curious of what you all think about how OWU will do with its new head coach?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on January 30, 2006, 11:47:09 AM
kcreds,

To be honest, I haven't really looked into any other NCAC schools as far as who would be favorites in the conference.  I pretty much stick to basketball during the winter.  I know Denison has had a bit of a resurgance in the last couple of years, so I would probably throw them in the mix with Wooster and OWU.  Also, Allegheny seems to always be in the running with Wooster in the NCAC East division.  I think Kenyon is another team to keep an eye on.  They gave Wooster their only loss in the NCAC East last season.

I do think Wooster will be the clear cut favorite to take the NCAC this year.  Beyond that, I haven't really looked into the other contenders yet to see who could be up there with Wooster as the season unfolds.  Once the hoops season dies down, I'll follow it a little closer, but as for now, my focus is on the hardwood. ;)

Also, you mentioned a new coach at OWU.  I wasn't aware of a coaching change.  How do you feel about the new coach?  I know you said your son is going to be playing this spring.  What have you heard about him?  I would be interested in knowing what the expectations are down in Delaware for this coming spring as well.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 30, 2006, 12:02:53 PM
Yeah, OWU's long-time coach, Roger Ingles, has retired.  I wouldn't think that would have an immediate effect, but only time will tell if the program can remain at the same level with him gone.  I hope that it does, as the more competitive teams there are, the better for the conference overall.

One thing that I like more about NCAC baseball is that there is a little more balance than in basketball.  As Scotsfan mentioned, Allegheny always gives Wooster a tussle in the east, and with the recent rise of Denison in the west, that division has been interesting also.  I'm also hoping that Denison can remain tough, as they've lost their top player, Drew Shamrock, to graduation.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: kcreds on January 30, 2006, 02:32:41 PM
Coach Ingles is now the athletic director for OWU. New Head Coach Tom Durant was an assistant to Coach Ingles.  Jr. really likes Coach Durant, probably because Jr. is a catcher and Coach Durant was a catcher for Ohio State. It is hard for me to say what kind of team they will have because as some can attest to, I am not that up on all the teams this year. I do know that they have a tough schedule out of the blocks and that might be an indicator. I am basically going to lean on you all for the inside information on all the teams.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: seinfeld on January 30, 2006, 04:32:15 PM
Drew Shamrock is using his last year of eligibility at the College of Charleston

http://www.cofcsports.com/content/?/sports/base/roster/base_bio_shamrock_drew

Ironically, that is the same school that Luke Ullman transferred to Wooster from.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 30, 2006, 05:26:27 PM
Well, I'll be doggoned.  I saw he wasn't on the Denison roster and just figured he'd graduated.  Weird that he's going to the same school that Ullman did.  Maybe he's the proverbial "player to be named later" that the NCAC owes to them for Ullman...  ;)

At least one Wooster high school athlete went there, too.  Joy Taylor, the point guard on the Wooster girls basketball team that went to state a few years ago went down there to play.  I'd never even heard of the school until then.  Now it seems to be connected via sort of an underground railroad to Ohio.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: seinfeld on January 31, 2006, 11:43:13 AM
Here is my take on the NCAC this season.

I think this year more than ever, Wooster is well ahead of anyone in the Eastern Division. Allegheny was fairly average last year, and they lost several key players. I also heard that they don't have much new talent coming in this year. Hiram has a few decent players, but not nearly enough depth to steal any more than one game in a four-game series. Kenyon may be the second-best team in the East. They took a game from Wooster last year, and have some decent talent coming back. I actually look for them to pass Allegheny into second place this year.

The West is pretty wide open, but I guess you have to give the slight edge to Denison, because of their recent dominance. Losing Shamrock does hurt, however. Ohio Wesleyan will be in the mix, if for no other reason they didn't really graduate anyone. But they didn't even finish in the top two last season. Witt and Wabash aren't too far behind, and with a little luck, could sneak into the playoffs.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 01, 2006, 10:44:19 AM
Seinfeld,

Your takes seem pretty reasonable to me.  I wasn't sure about how far Allegheny would drop off.  I know that their weekend series with Wooster last season was pretty competitive.  At least the first day.  The Gators should have won both games in the opening double header, only to see Wooster post late rallies in both games.  That probably took a bit of the wind out of 'Gheny's sails, as Wooster cruised through the double header the next day. 

I do tend to agree with you about Wooster being a pretty clear cut favorite at this point.  No one in the NCAC can match Wooster's pitching depth over a 4 game series.  That was pretty evident last season, and with Wooster's entire staff returning, I wouldn't look for things to change much.  That Allegheny series that I just touched on is a perfect examply of that.  'Gheny's top 2 starters were able to keep the Gators in the 1st 2 games, but Wooster's pitching depth really showed through in the last 2.  Most teams might have one or two pitchers that could matchup with Wooster's best, but few have the depth to go with Wooster over a four game tilt.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on February 02, 2006, 01:30:15 PM
Seinfeld & Scots Fan,

Thanks for the preseason assessment.  I agree that Wooster is the class of the NCAC - not just this year but every year really.  I always had the utmost respect for the Scots program even when I played 20 years ago and Wabash had nothing to do with the NCAC.  They were well coached, confident and talented year in and year out and a program I envied.  Thus I was surprised also by Kreds comment earlier on this board.

As for the west - Dennison has definitely come on of late.  My scouts in Indiana say it has a lot to do with the coach (a former Wooster player). OWU is always tough and Witt broke through last year to play in the conference tourney.  I was slightly surprised that you considered Wabash a player knocking on the door.  What did you base that comment on?  Since I did not see them play last year I can only go by boxscores, and I have not seen the Bash competitive in the win/loss column with the upper tier of the NCAC.  If you saw competitiveness on the field and not just in the standings I'd like to hear it.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: seinfeld on February 02, 2006, 01:55:09 PM
Wabash split four games with Wittenberg, played Denison close a couple of times, and even beat Wartburg, which went to the NCAA Div. III World Series last year.

I'm not saying they are great, but it just takes a good weekend against a Witt or OWU and you could sneak into the NCAC Tournament,
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: hut1 on February 02, 2006, 10:31:37 PM

How can you mention Wooster Baseball without mentioning the big man.  You can read about what Kurt accomplished his first two years at Wooster below.
This is from the website last year.




Kurt Kapferer
Junior
First Base/Pitcher
6'7" 260
Jefferson, Ohio
Jefferson Area
Left/Left

Named the Div. III preseason All-American at first base by Baseball America ... Is coming off a productive summer season, during which he hit .346 (18-for-54) with two doubles, two homers, and eight RBI in the Great Lakes Summer Collegiate League (wooden bat) ... Looks to be "more dominant" in the clean-up spot, according to the coaching staff, following last year's all-region performance ... Possesses tremendous power ... Voted a team captain ... 2004: Selected to the coaches' All-Mideast Region Second Team and to the All-North Coast Athletic Conference First Team ... Led the league in home runs with 16 - four more than any other player - which tied him for the third-best total for a season in school history ... Also finished second in the NCAC in RBI (58), and was among the top-10 in five other categories ... Ranked 18th in NCAA Div. III in home runs (0.34 per game) and 45th in RBI (1.23 per game) ... Posted a .331 batting average, to go with 42 runs scored, a .693 slugging percentage, 26 walks, 10 hit by pitches, and a .452 on-base percentage ... Belted 12 of his homers during an 18-game stretch (April 11-May 6) ... NCAC Tournament MVP after reaching safely in 13 of 19 plate appearances, going 6-for-12 with four walks and three hit by pitches ... Homered in the eighth inning against Ohio Wesleyan during game one of the NCAC semifinals to give Wooster a 4-3 win, and added another blast in the first inning of the championship series to set the tone versus Denison ... 2003: Received honorable mention on the All-NCAC Team, despite not being a full-time starter until April 18 ... Ended the season on a tear, hitting .436 (17-for-39) and homering four times over the last 12 games to up his final numbers to .388, five home runs, and 22 RBI ... Also had five doubles and was issued 16 walks en route to a .539 on-base percentage ... Went 6-for-9 with a double, homer, and six RBI to help Wooster to a four-game sweep over rival Allegheny on April 26-27 ... Combined to go 5-for-7 with six runs scored, five RBI, and a home run in each game of a doubleheader against Hiram on April 23 ... Prior to Wooster: Selected as the Northeastern Conference Player of the Year in both baseball and basketball during his senior seasons at Jefferson Area High School ... Was twice recognized all-county for his efforts on the diamond and received honorable mention on the All-Ohio Team in basketball as a junior ... Helped the Falcons to conference championships in baseball twice (2000, 2002) ... Lettered three times in each sport ... Personal: Born March 28, 1984 ... Son of Robert and Denise Kapferer ... Is a computer science major.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on February 02, 2006, 11:21:12 PM
In '03 Wabash went 10-6 in NCAC play with splits vs. #12 (at the time) OWU and Witt.  Dropping 3 out of 4 to Denison killed Wabash's chances of getting to the semis that year.  The last two seasons have been a little disappointing for Wabash as they've been unable to keep the '03 pace.  Last year Wabash was swept by both Denison and OWU, but played close in most of those games.  It's not unreasonable to think that if Wabash can turn around some of those close games that they could sneak into the top two in the west.  This season the Witt and Denison games will be at home for Wabash.  Hopefully that will be the little extra push they need to get into the NCAC postseason for the first time. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: WoosterFAN on February 07, 2006, 05:21:40 PM
I do not think that I missed it.  Did we ever get an answer on what happened to Reilly Enos?  I am SWAGing that is his brother on the roster now.  What happened to Reilly?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: seinfeld on February 08, 2006, 08:19:52 AM
Reilly is still at Wooster, but he has a bad shoulder, so I believe he just decided to sit out this year. I would say its 50/50 if he will pitch for Wooster again. Hopefully he will, as they could use his arm next year.

Watch out for Oliver. From what I hear, he is the real deal.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on February 08, 2006, 12:06:50 PM
I hope Reilly can make a comeback next season, as he impressed me from the word "Go".  When healthy, he throws pretty hard, but it was his hard breaking ball that was the real deal.  A sharp-breaking slider, or whatever it was, that dipped almost straight down.  I'd thought that he had the most upside on the whole staff.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 09, 2006, 10:30:17 AM
If Reilly is back that just makes this staff all that much better!  What a bonus to have him available if in fact that is the case.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on February 11, 2006, 11:12:29 AM
The baseball page has the 2006 returning player profiles up:

http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/profiles.php
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: earlhamalum on February 11, 2006, 01:14:48 PM
Does Drew Shamrock have to sit out this year because he transferred?  Second of all did he go there as a Pitcher???  I always thought he was a lot better as an outfielder and didn't impress me as a Pitcher at all... (he was a lefty) but not with anything over-powering.

Does EC have a chance at winning a conference game this year it has been since the 2003 season...???  WOW.  Also can they change the East and the West... to the GOOD and the BAD

Think about it,
Wooster,ALL,Wittenberg,OWU,Denison  (Varsity)
Earlham,Oberlin,Kenyon,Hiram,*Wabash...(J.V.) not bad, but i'd put Denison above Wabash the last 4 or so Seasons

That would make those 4 games series more interesting.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: smedindy on February 26, 2006, 07:58:20 PM
Wbash roster is up:

http://www.wabash.edu/sports/baseball/roster
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: earlhamalum on February 27, 2006, 11:13:44 AM
Baseball Team Split against Taylor this weekend down in Centre KY.  EC 1-1
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 05, 2006, 02:58:17 PM
Wooster opens their Ft. Myers, Florida trip with back to back doubleheaders, facing Albion on Sunday the 12th and Carroll on Monday the 13th.  Making it even tougher is the fact that the first DH is sort of a twi-nighter, with game one beginning at 4 PM.  The following day's twin bill starts at 10 in the morning.  So Wooster will be playing there first 4 games of the year within a 24 hour span.  That's not just tough on pitching, but tough on everybody.

I've been trying to get word from WKQT if they'll be broadcasting any Florida games, but they've not answered my emails.  I'm going to give them a call tomorrow, if I remember, which is iffy.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 05, 2006, 03:54:33 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 05, 2006, 02:58:17 PM

I've been trying to get word from WKQT if they'll be broadcasting any Florida games, but they've not answered my emails.  I'm going to give them a call tomorrow, if I remember, which is iffy.


If I remember correctly, it seems as though the Florida games are broadcast on WKVX, am 960.  Don't hold me to that, but, if they are going to be broadcast, that would be my guess as to where they would be broadcast.  Hopefully the Scots can get off to a good start down in Florida to ease some of the sting from last night's heartbreaker on the hardwood.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on March 06, 2006, 02:17:44 PM
Looks like a good but tough schedule for the Scots this year with 4 games in Florida against ranked opponents (2 each vs Rowan and St. Thomas), plus a home game against Marietta and a home-and-home series with Otterbein when they get back to Ohio.  Wooster has a ton of home games scheduled this year.  Hopefully they get to play more than the 5 that they did last season!

Here's to another good season on the diamond for the Scots! 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on March 07, 2006, 10:19:53 AM
Wabash is off to a good start in Arizona.  The LGs split with Rochester Tech on Sunday and pitched a pair of shutouts yesterday vs. Monmouth.  Freshman Andy Weeks tossed a two-hit, seven strikeout game in the nightcap. 

Billy King is off to a great start at the plate for Wabash...in four games he's 8-13, scored five runs, driven in 5 runs, and swiped two bases.  The homecoming trip for Billy is certainly treating him well. 

Wabash plays a pair today vs. Wartburg. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 07, 2006, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: imderekpoe on March 06, 2006, 02:17:44 PM

Wooster has a ton of home games scheduled this year.  Hopefully they get to play more than the 5 that they did last season!


You aren't mistaken about that!  I was just browsing the schedule and notice that they have a string of 15 home games in a row!  They finish the season with 15 of their last 19 games at home!

One thing I noticed that seemed a little strange is that they have the NCAC semi-finals scheduled to take part at Ohio Northern.  It seems kind of an odd site to hold NCAC tournament games at an OAC school?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: formerd3db on March 07, 2006, 02:18:24 PM
ScotsFan:
On the other hand, perhaps not.  Ohio Northern has hosted the NCAA Regionals for baseball on several occasions in past years.  They do have nice facilities for that, so perhaps that is why they were chosen.  Yet, you would think the NCAC would want to hold their own tournament at one of their own member's baseball facilities. ???
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on March 07, 2006, 03:42:23 PM
More on Wabash's Arizona trip....the two shutouts yesterday came against Monmouth, a team nationally recognized at 28 in the D-III preseason poll.  Today's games are against #3 Wartburg...so the competition is quite good for Wabash in Arizona. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on March 08, 2006, 12:06:09 AM
Not quite so good for the LGs today.  Wabash dropped a pair to a formidable Wartburg team by scores of 7-3 and 18-6.  I wonder if pitching depth wasn't an issue for Wabash today (six games in three days). 

Wabash falls to 3-3 on the Arizona trip.  Wabash plays two vs. Coe College tomorrow. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 08, 2006, 07:50:50 PM
Wooster's schedule doesn't say that the NCAC semifinals are at Ohio Northern.  Those are two different items.

April 29-30: NCAC Tournament Semifinal Series (No location given as this is generally at the home field of the regular season division winner.)

May 3rd: at Ohio Northern (Just a regular season game, plopped in there between the league semifinals and finals.  My bet is that it eventually gets cancelled as these games usually do due to one team or the other having to makeup a league contest or just needing to rest their pitchers for the tournament.  Not sure why they schedule games at this time in the first place.)

May 4-5: NCAC Tournament Championship Series (at Springfield, Ohio) (This is starting to annoy me, that Wittenberg gets to host this year after year. Yes, it's a nice facility, but there are others, and Springfield is not centrally located. Plus, one team should not have home field advantage over and over.)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: zosobob on March 11, 2006, 11:19:26 PM
Things are looking good again this year, GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on March 12, 2006, 12:56:54 PM
Wabash concluded their Arizona trip with a pair of huge wins over Wisconsin Lutheran.  Wabash's final two games in Phoenix were cancelled by rain leaving Wabash with a 6-4 record for the trip.  Up next for Wabash is a single nine-inning contest at Depauw on Tuesday.  Wabash has lost 13 straight games to their archrivals...the last win for Wabash in the series was in 1999.  Needless to say, Wabash is way overdue in this series. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 12, 2006, 04:01:57 PM
The first pitch of Wooster's first game with Albion should be on the way right about now, weather permitting in Fort Myers.  Unfortunately, no radio broadcasts that I can find, so I'll just have stick with watching D1 hoops.  :-[
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on March 12, 2006, 11:25:44 PM
The Scots get off to a good start by beating Albion 6-0 and 16-1.  Another DH against Carroll on Monday.

Go Scots!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 14, 2006, 10:08:17 AM
Wooster sweeps Carroll, 7-1 and 10-6, to go 4-0 on the season. After a needed day off today to allow the boys to work on their surfing skills, the Scots will take on the always tough (8-1) Profs of Rowan, whose only loss is to a DII school (and I use that term generously), Barry University, already 15-7 on the year.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on March 14, 2006, 01:33:27 PM
Wabash's game at Depauw today has been pushed back to tomorrow "due to weather." And so we wait....
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 14, 2006, 07:27:12 PM
Wooster looks like they've found a shortstop to take over if not replace Luke Ullman. Freshman John Quimby is 7-10 with 2 doubles in 3 games. Other position player newcomers off to good starts are Sheldon Steiner and Oliver Enos. And then there's pitcher Jeff (Double-A) Kaatz, who struck out the first three batters that he faced.

The Scots appear to have been saving Luke Katich for the big game against Rowan tomorrow.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 15, 2006, 05:58:30 PM
Wooster's game vs Rowan tonight will be webcast by WQKT, the local Wooster radio station.  Here's the link:

http://www.wooster.edu/interactive/
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 16, 2006, 12:09:29 AM
Wooster dropped a ridiculous game to Rowan tonight.  I think the final was 18-15, but I'm already fuzzy on that and so was Ken Nemeth (the Scots broadcaster) during part of the game.

Luke Katich got shelled as did his successors.  Wooster didn't hit much until late, but got myriads of gift runs from wild Rowan pitchers.  (At one point, the Scots had the bases loaded and scored three successive runs on three successive wild pitches.  The Rowan pitcher then proceeded to hit the Wooster batter with his final pitch to him.) 

Neither team seemed to be able to play a lick of defense. The boxscore will be incredibly ugly when it arrives, and Wooster suddenly appears a lot less ready to occupy a spot on the national scene than they did just two days ago.  This game seemed much more like an Oberlin intrasquad affair than a ballgame between two high-ranking teams.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 16, 2006, 02:15:33 PM
Unlike Wooster's most recent game, Wabash drops a 1-0 defensive struggle to DePauw on Wed.
The LG's continue to come up short against upper tier competition, especially evident in our 7 year drought against the Dannies.
I think we get another crack at them at home next week. I'm remaining optimistic that we can break through and challenge the upper tier teams but pounding 30+ runs in a DH against a depleted Wisc. Lutheran team and following it up with a 9 inning shutout performance only 5 days later shows that numbers can be deceiving in DIII baseball.  I believe that the only accurate way to measure ourselves is against the perennial power schools and not by stats.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 16, 2006, 03:16:16 PM
I agree, there is a tremendous disparity in the competition in DIII baseball, maybe even moreso than in basketball.  Wooster invariably hits .360 or so as a team, but those numbers are tremendously inflated by the 6 or 8 games that they play each year against teams of the caliber of Oberlin.  Once the tournament starts, averages drop about 100 points.  The really good hitters, their Jake Franks, Matt Millers, Luke Ullmans, can hit quality pitching.  Some of the other guys begin to struggle, though.

One stat that's able to cross borders, though, is defense.  An error is an error, whether against a stiff or a contender.  And although I still haven't seen yesterday's boxscore, it seemed as if Wooster had a handful of them and that's not good.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 16, 2006, 03:37:08 PM
good post Wooster Booster. I agree 100%

Just for conversation sake however, I could argue that more errors will be committed against better competition for the following reasons:

1. pitchers will pitch more carefully to better hitters, sometimes leading to long counts which invariably lead to fielders being flat and more errors
2. better hitting teams put more runners on base, put more pressure on fielders by being on the move and can lead to errors.
(This is why I love the game so much. Change one variable just slightly and a cascade of new outcomes potentially appear)

I also believe these points can be merely excuses for poor defensive performances, but over the course of a season they tend to play out as true.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 16, 2006, 05:38:52 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 16, 2006, 12:09:29 AM
This game seemed much more like an Oberlin intrasquad affair than a ballgame between two high-ranking teams.

Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 16, 2006, 03:16:16 PM
One stat that's able to cross borders, though, is defense. An error is an error, whether against a stiff or a contender. And although I still haven't seen yesterday's boxscore, it seemed as if Wooster had a handful of them and that's not good.

You have to remember it's also the 1st week of the season.  This is basically still considered spring training for these guys.  Also, Wooster was playing in just their 5th game of the season as opposed to Rowan playing in their 10th.  If Wooster's fielding problems persist throughout the season, than there is reason for concern.  But in just the 5th game of the year, I'm not going to get excited about it just yet.  Like I said, it's basically still spring training right now.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 16, 2006, 05:56:08 PM
And to add to my previous thoughts, Rowan swept Wooster last year in Florida 3 straight games.  However, Wooster came back to dominate the Profs in last year's CWS.  I'd rather be winning at the end of the year than at the beginning.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 18, 2006, 06:02:27 PM
Wooster, now 7-1 and having scored 56 runs over their last three games, takes on Rowan in a rematch at 7 PM tonight.  Wooster's last game was a 26-0 romp over Bethel.  It will be interesting to see if they can reverse their fortune against Rowan, who handed them their only loss, 18-15.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 19, 2006, 11:32:29 AM
Wooster avenged it's only loss of the season defeating #5 Rowan last night 8-7.  That's a little more of a respectable score than the rediculous 18-15 result in the 1st meeting between these two teams.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: kcreds on March 20, 2006, 10:33:09 AM
OWU had a successful Florida trip finishing 8-3. They beat 2nd ranked Cortland State 10-8 and lost to 5th ranked Rowan 4-5. The other two losses were to Wis.-Oshkosh but both were close games. OWU outscored their opponents 101-50. Wooster appears to have had a good trip and is a team with lots of support. I am looking forward to the Wooster match ups late in the season. Bring on the warm weather and good baseball. Go Bishops!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 20, 2006, 11:52:07 AM
kkreds,

Thanks for the OWU updates.  The Bishops look like they had a good trip.  UW-Oshcosh was just outside of the top 30, so those weren't bad losses by any means.  Looks like OWU could just as easily be 11-0.  They had a good Florida trip nonetheless. 

Wooster still has another week down in sunny FLA.  They have a key double header this afternoon (actually starting in about 15 minutes) with #27 St. Thomas MN.  These will probably be Wooster's toughest games outside of their 2 games with Rowan so far this season.  The Tommies are currently 5-2 and are 5-0 so far on their Florida trip.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: formerd3db on March 20, 2006, 08:11:28 PM
Yeah, I would say OWU had a great start.  They beat Hope this weekend included in that record.  Looks like they will be the team to watch in your conference.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 20, 2006, 11:14:32 PM
Wooster split a doubleheader with St. Thomas, dropping the opener 7-2 but winning game two, 4-2.  The Scots are now 9-2.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 21, 2006, 12:31:50 PM
The Oberlin website, surprisingly because it's rarely up to date on results, reveals that the Yeoman are 3-0 on the season, having swept a series from Notre Dame of Ohio.  They now leave for Florida where they'll jump right into a four-game league series against Wooster.  Maybe, for a change, they'll make it interesting against the Scots, but I'm not counting on it.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on March 21, 2006, 04:29:22 PM
Wabash's game tomorrow vs. Depauw has been postponed.  No makeup date has been scheduled as of yet.  I'm not so sure it's a great idea to reschedule the game at this point.  With the conference season weekend four-gamers starting April 1, the only time to squeeze Depauw in would be in the middle of the week.  With the conference games stretching the pitching out so thin as it is, I have my doubts as to how smart it is for Wabash to try and work this one in (the best day would be sometime during the week between the Earlham and Witt series...Wabash usually handles Earlham pretty easily and could conceivably hold out one of their top starters for the Depauw game who could then be ready to go again on the Sunday of the Witt series).  We'll see what happens. 

Wabash is still scheduled to play host to Heidelberg this weekend, but I wouldn't bank on that series happening either right now. 

Gotta love midwest spring baseball weather! 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 22, 2006, 10:28:03 AM
Wooster loses an ugly one yesterday to Sewanee 10-5.  The Tigers were only 5-9 on the season before beating Wooster yesterday and in their writeup, their coach described the win as, "...arguably the biggest win in Sewanee baseball history."  Wooster has now lost 2 out of their last 3 games and now faces New England College today.  So far this season, Wooster's pitching, which was supposed to be their strength, has let them down.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 25, 2006, 11:57:43 AM
I have not heard any results from the Wooster-New England game on Wednesday, but Wooster did manage to sweep the 1st of two double-headers from Oberlin yesterday.  According to the Oberlin web-site, John Oliver pitched a no-hitter in a 6-0 win in game one.  And in game two, Wooster belted 4 homers en route to a 17-6 win.  The Scots finish up their Florida trip today with another double header with the Yeomen.  Wooster then has back to back home dates slated for next Wednesday and Thursday against B-WC and Musky respectively.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 25, 2006, 01:43:54 PM
Wooster won that game against New England College 15-1.  I'm looking forward to getting out there and seeing the games next Wednesday and Thursday, but it seems more like winter now than it did in January.  Gonna be ugly baseball watching weather.  And it'll probably be worse up in Meadville next weekend.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 27, 2006, 10:24:19 AM
WB,

According to the forecast, it's looking like we could be in for some nice weather for the Scot's home opener on Wed.  Highs in the mid-50's  and partly cloudy and it gets even better on Thurs. with highs in the 60's  :o!!!

As for the weather in Meadville, I don't think  it really matters what time of year it is there.   Just one question, is it ever nice there??? ::)  ;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 27, 2006, 01:27:28 PM
The forecast for Wednesday and Thursday has improved, and I'm really looking forward to getting out there.  As a matter of fact, it's nice enough today that I'm planning on checking out the Wooster High School opener at 4:30 PM against Cloverleaf.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 30, 2006, 09:35:47 PM
FYI:  Wabash College announces today that Coach Tom Flynn is resigning at the end of the season.  Asst. Coach Cory Stevens is named new head coach effective July 1.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 31, 2006, 04:23:26 PM
Wooster's last loss seems to have woken a sleeping giant.  Since that loss to Sewanee, Wooster has won 7 in a row and have outscored their opponents by an average of 13-2 per game over the win streak.  It looks like the pitching staff is really settling in as well.  Wooster's hurlers have only allowed one earned run over the past 2 games.  All 3 of BW's runs were unearned.  And Musky came into yesterday's game with Wooster averaging over 11 runs per game and Wooster held them to just one. 

Now its on to Meadville, or shoud I say Mudville.  The Gators are the closest thing to a rivavlry for the Scots in the NCAC east, but Wooster has dominated the series of late going 13-3 over the past 16 games against Allegheny.  The Gators struggled during their trip to the desert and are coming into this 4 game series with only a 3-10 record.  Still, the Scots can't afford to overlook the Gators this weekend.  It very easily could be a long weekend for the Gators.  They are only batting .220 as a team compared to Wooster's .380.  Also, opponents are only batting .249 against Wooster's pitching staff, which doesn't bode well for a team struggling to find offense.  I'd say the Scots should definately be thinking sweep, but anything less than taking 3 out of 4 would be a disappointment IMO.   
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: formerd3db on March 31, 2006, 05:31:05 PM
BASH6-4-3:

It appears that Wabash Baseball will be in good hands with Stevens as the new coach.  Continuity helps.  Just out of curiosity, though, what were the details as to Flynn's resignation?  You (or someone mentioned earlier) that he did so because his "family was moving to the San Francisco, CA area".  Did he take another coaching position there, or was it other family business reasons?  The Wabash athletic website including baseball doesn't give any details, at least none or any article that I could find.  Perhaps I was looking in the wrong area there.  Anyway, just curious and also to what your and other 'Basher's thoughts on all this are.  Thanks.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 31, 2006, 11:47:52 PM
former d3db:

My understanding is that Flynn is moving to the west coast for his wife's job.  No info on his future coaching situation.

As for the Stevens hiring I am excited that he may bring some new energy to the program and take it to the next level with the upper tier clubs in this conference.  People I have talked to are a little surprised an official search for a new coach did not take place but maybe our AD felt he had his man in C'ville all along.  It also has to be said that the current players definitely favored Stevens' promotion and the work being done for recruiting next year's freshman class was largely Steven's work - so the continuity card was definitely played.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 31, 2006, 11:55:07 PM
Kreds:

Are you still out there?  How are the Bishops looking?  Also, this Board needs a little non-Wooster/Wabash influence.

I was reading a post you made on the football board this week regarding your son's decision being a 2-sport athlete.  Sounds like his freshman year has been a learning experience and I inferred that he may be dropping baseball next season.  Has the jump from HS to college been larger in baseball than fball?  Or does he feel he needs to dedicate more time to football in order to get the playing time?  Just curious.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: kcreds on April 01, 2006, 12:25:03 PM
BASH6-4-3:  OWU is playing well but had a setback against Otterbein. A team I wish the football team would play and start a rivalry with because they are so close. Jr. thought that he had a shot at playing right away because OWU had only a freshman catcher returning. He found out that once the team was set, he was on the outside looking in. He ended up 5th on the depth chart. By his comparison with the other catchers, all good by the way, he thought he would be 2nd or 3rd. My perspective is that he missed fall practice because of football and he came in behind. Coach Durant, former OSU catcher, changed Jr.'s catching style and as Jr. put it, he had to learn the position all over again. He has not been able to be with the team and has not received a uniform shirt. Obviously he is very disenchanted with baseball right now. It has, however, freed him up for spring football practice.  He has a legitimate shot at starting next year on defense so he is in fact going to focus all his attention on football and see how it goes. The football transition was easier for him but it also taught him a valuable lesson about effort. Time will tell and most posters probably have heard this story a thousand times so I apologize for making it 1001. Thanks for asking, it is therapuetic for me to post about it.   
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 01, 2006, 01:50:18 PM
kcreds:
Thanks for the update and insight.
1000th or 1001th time its always worth rephrasing, especially when its first hand knowledge.  Unlike some fball posters, I'm ok with the "Jr." stories.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: kcreds on April 01, 2006, 03:16:17 PM
Thanks again Bash6-4-3, I love to read about other prospects too, especially in the offseason.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 01, 2006, 05:26:52 PM
BASH6-4-3:

Thanks for the follow-up.  Agree with the continuity factor and as you indicate, it appears Stevens earned it as well (in addition to the support of the players).
Also, speaks very well for Flynn that he supports his wife in such a tough family decision.  The roles were kind of reversed from what they usually are i.e. it's usually the wife sacrificing for her husband's coaching job.  I would expect that Flynn will eventually end up coaching somewhere out there. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 02, 2006, 10:36:42 AM
Just a quick lament.

Year in and year out, the Wooster baseball program produces the same type of team.  Always very strong offensively and with good or excellent pitching.  The Scots are usually top ten or twenty in either or both of these categories.  No one could possibly complain about that.

However, unfortunately, season after season they are defensively flawed, no more effective than an average DIII team when playing in the field.  I don't know why this is, but it is so.  Maybe, when recruiting, they look at offense first, overlooking the prospect's glovework or hoping to be able to improve on it.  Maybe, also, so much time is given to hitting in practice that defense is barely touched on.

When you can hit like Wooster, you'll win a large percentage of games with your bats.  But there are also many games during the year, especially in the post-season when playing against better competition, when the offense isn't there.  That's when it's necessary to make both the big, and the routine, plays in the field.  And too often Wooster doesn't make them.

I don't have the numbers, but it's my impression over watching the last decade or so of seasons that their fielding percentage when defending against bunts is abyssmal.  Horrendous.  Fumbled balls and throws down the right-field line seem to almost equal the number of times that they make the play.  It happened again yesterday at Allegheny and will continue to do so unless they make a serious effort to work on this in practice.

I'm a Wooster fan, but it's disheartening to see them give away so many close games because their defense isn't nearly up to the level of the other aspects of their game.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 02, 2006, 11:18:35 AM
Wooster Booster

Your lament is the crying card for almost all true American baseball fans these days.  Defensive skills have been overlooked at almost every level the past decade being replaced by the "3 run jack"  as the answer to winning games.  Our philosophy was exposed in the WBC this spring as Japan and Cuba played the more complete game.

Another opinion as a former shortstop is that you can work on defense all you want in practice but nothing beats the exposure of your defensive skills like a game.  D3 players are at a huge disadvantage here with a limited game schedule (we averaged 35 games a year at Wabash).  D1, D2, JUCO, NAIA all play 60 plus games and their defensive play greatly improves by May.
Finally, Wooster is at an even greater disadvantage as 20-25 of their games are blow out wins and thus defensive strategy (bunt defense in particular) doesn't get exposed.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on April 04, 2006, 06:56:26 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 02, 2006, 10:36:42 AM
I'm a Wooster fan, but it's disheartening to see them give away so many close games because their defense isn't nearly up to the level of the other aspects of their game.

I agree that the Scots need to field a better defensive team.  It is frustrating to watch a team lose games due to fielding miscues.  It should be noted, however, that the Scots have made 14 less errors than their opponents so far this year

On Saturday's loss to the Gators:  I wonder why managers feel the need to bring in their 'closer', when the starter has pitched 6 great innings?  Adam Samson had gone 6 innings giving up 1 earned run.  But they bring in Katich to pitch the seventh.  He promptly gives up a double and makes the crucial throwing error.  I've never been a fan of using the 'closer' just because its a save situation.

I hope to make it over to Otterbein (I live in Columbus) for the game this afternoon.  It will be brisk, but this will be one of my few chances to make a game this season.  Looks like a better option than catching a Reds or Tribe game - at least the Scots have better pitching!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 04, 2006, 11:23:39 AM
I'll echo the sentiments of WB and derekpoe.  Wooster can't afford to be this sloppy in the field once postseason play begins.  They had 3 more errors in game one on Sunday, but luckily, it didn't cost them like it did in the nightcapper on Saturday.  All 3 runs that the Gators scored in their lone win over the Scots were unearned!  I sure hope they're doing a lot of fielding ground balls in practice.

As for bringing in Katich, I hope it wasn't just for the sake of bringing him in just to pick up a save in the stat column.  I'm hopeful that it was due more to the fact that Adam Samson was getting up there in his pitch count.  Although, the next day, Walt Samson pitched 7 shutout innings only to give way to Ryan Mullins after Wooster plated 3 runs in their half of the 8th.  It could be that Walt's pitch count was at his limit as well.  Mullins was able to work a 1-2-3 8th to pick up the save though.  Mullins also only faced the minimum over the last two innings in game 2 on Sunday to pick up save #2 on the day.  To me, he seems like more of the Scot's #1 closer than does Katich at this time.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 04, 2006, 02:47:00 PM
I'm not at all a fan of the way managers, almost across the board, use the back end of their bullpens these days.  It used to be that relievers came in because the starter, or whoever was in the game, was either struggling or appeared tired.  Now, managers (and the pitchers, too, in the major leagues at least) want the roles so defined.  Closers are brought in to pitch the last inning, period, irregardless of the situation.

I'm fine about bringing in a new guy to pitch the last inning if the prior pitcher was getting hit or beginning to look tired.  But if he's been successful, retiring the opposition in order or maybe allowing a single baserunner in the last inning, I'm sticking with him.  Because every time you bring a new pitcher into the game you're opening up a can of worms.  No matter how good he may be, you never know what he'll bring to the mound that day.

This strategy has evolved over time, and I'm convinced that it's a copycat strategy.  A few successful managers in the bigs began using their closers this way and everybody jumped on the bandwagon.  Now, no one wants to go against this new "book", because if they fail, they'll be heavily second-guessed.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 07, 2006, 05:35:22 PM
Wooster has had their way with the OAC so far this season improving to 5-0 against that other conference with a 7-4 win over JCU yesterday.  Now it's on to a pivotal 4 game series against the nationally ranked Kenyon Lords (and no that's not a typo :o).  Can anyone think of the last time that Kenyon was ranked ahead of both OWU and Allegheny from the NCAC??? 

The times they are a chaaaangin'..
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on April 09, 2006, 07:36:52 PM
The Scots sweep 4 from Kenyon this weekend, giving them a 2-game lead (over Allegheny) with 4 games left to play (against Hiram).  Looks like they are all but a lock to repeat as champs of the NCAC East Division.

With the 14 HBP the Scots accumulated this weekend, they now have been hit 65 times in 29 games!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 10, 2006, 09:18:13 AM
Quote from: imderekpoe on April 09, 2006, 07:36:52 PMWith the 14 HBP the Scots accumulated this weekend, they now have been hit 65 times in 29 games!

Which brings me to this.  Brandon Boesiger is simply amazing, and has become my favorite Scots player.  In what I believe is 87 plate appearances (had to add a few numbers to get that), he's now been hit by 17 pitches. That's a .195 HBP average!  He's hitting .407 with some pop and has an unbelievable .581 OBP.  Plus, he's a very good defensive catcher who can run; 4-4 in the stolen base department.  If I'm managing that team, he's hitting first or second, not down in the order.

Dang, it was cold out there Saturday!  Anybody who was out there for that doubleheader should have received the College of Wooster's version of the old Croix de Candlestick, a little orange pin that the Giants used to give out to those who made it through an extra-innings night game at The Stick.

This home stand is incredible.  Two more good opponents this week, Otterbein and Marietta, before yet another doubleheader Friday and Saturday.  Then more good baseball next week!  I love it!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on April 10, 2006, 10:01:16 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 10, 2006, 09:18:13 AM
This home stand is incredible. Two more good opponents this week, Otterbein and Marietta, before yet another doubleheader Friday and Saturday. Then more good baseball next week! I love it!

I wish that I was able to make it up for more games, but its just not working out this year. 
Does anyone know how the semi-final series works?  Best of 3?  I was thinking of coming up for the Rebounders Golf Outing on the 29th, but maybe I'll just come up for the baseball games instead.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 10, 2006, 10:24:20 AM
I believe that you're right, the semifinals are best of three, at the home field of the divisional champion.  That would be Saturday and Sunday, April 29th and 30th.  I can't remember if they play 2 games on Saturday and the "if necessary" game on Sunday, or if they play only one on Saturday, and one or two on Sunday, depending.

Then the finals are down at Wittenberg.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 10, 2006, 12:31:50 PM
There's a good race going on out in the west. The standings right now, along with the remaining NCAC West opponents:

Wabash 6-2 (@OWU, Denison)
OWU 9-3 (Wabash)
Witt 6-6 (Earlham)
Denison 3-5 (Earham, @Wabash)
Earlham 0-8 (Witt, Denison)

Wabash is in decent position to make the NCAC tournament for the first time.  A split with OWU would be huge this weekend and take a ton of pressure off of the Denison series to wrap up conference play. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 11, 2006, 09:27:24 PM
Well, my hat is off to the College of Wooster.  Today, post-game, they came across a way to improve their fielding.  Not by hanging around on the field for some much-needed glovework, but by altering the boxscore of today's game against Otterbein.

Wooster made 7 errors in this contest, in which they worked hard at blowing a 12-0 lead, only to fail in that endeavour and gather in the ugliest of wins by a score of 13-9. These errors were official, accumulated one-by-one although occasionally in bunches, and were up there for all to see on the scoreboard, the only one in the town of Wooster that actually works.

But lo and behold, the boxscore now posted at the Wooster website shows five errors for Wooster, two of today's miscues miraculously disappearing in the span of a few short hours. Congratulations, Wooster, on learning how to cook the books, 21st-century corporate style.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 13, 2006, 10:12:01 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 11, 2006, 09:27:24 PM

Wooster made 7 errors in this contest, in which they worked hard at blowing a 12-0 lead, only to fail in that endeavour and gather in the ugliest of wins by a score of 13-9. These errors were official, accumulated one-by-one although occasionally in bunches, and were up there for all to see on the scoreboard, the only one in the town of Wooster that actually works.

But lo and behold, the boxscore now posted at the Wooster website shows five errors for Wooster, two of today's miscues miraculously disappearing in the span of a few short hours. Congratulations, Wooster, on learning how to cook the books, 21st-century corporate style.

That's pretty funny.  The Daily Record had them down for six errors that led to five unearned runs.   ::)  Who are we supposed to believe??? ??? :o  :D

One thing I have heard Coach Pettorini say about hitting is that it is contageous.  Judging from the Scots poor defensive efforts, I guess you could say that poor fielding is contageous as well.

Lastly, has anyone heard why the Marietta game was nixed yesterday?  This was the one game I was really looking forward to seeing, and they go and postpone it. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 13, 2006, 10:36:26 AM
It was cancelled due to the fear of inclement weather (one of the players told me that after I walked down to the field yesterday) which really failed to materialize except for high winds.  I don't know this, but I'm suspecting it was Marietta that cancelled, especially since Wooster was out there practicing.  Maybe they had strong rain down there.

Now Joe Vardon reveals in the Daily Record that even if the Marietta game is off the schedule for good, which it almost certainly will be since there's virtually no room to stick it in, that Wooster has one too many games scheduled during the regular season.  Apparently you're only allowed 40.  Wooster has played 30 and has eleven left on its slate.  It seems like they'll have to cancel one.  I'm hoping they choose the road game at Ohio Northern.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 13, 2006, 12:28:56 PM
Playing that ONU game really doesn't make much sense anyways.  Why would you want to play a road game the day before the NCAC championship series, assuming the Scots weren't upset in the semis?  That game seems like the logical one to cancel.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 13, 2006, 03:53:17 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 13, 2006, 10:36:26 AM
...Wooster has one too many games scheduled during the regular season.  Apparently you're only allowed 40.  Wooster has played 30 and has eleven left on its slate. 

I guess this begs the question...why schedule more games than you can play?  Is this like overselling seats on an airplane?  Does ONU get a free upgrade when they play Wooster next season? 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on April 13, 2006, 04:39:56 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 13, 2006, 03:53:17 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 13, 2006, 10:36:26 AM
...Wooster has one too many games scheduled during the regular season.  Apparently you're only allowed 40.  Wooster has played 30 and has eleven left on its slate. 

I guess this begs the question...why schedule more games than you can play?  Is this like overselling seats on an airplane?  Does ONU get a free upgrade when they play Wooster next season? 

This being Ohio, I think that its usually a pretty safe bet that you'd have a rainout or two over the course of the season, and the mid-week rainouts are rarely made up.  I would bet that the schedule was made with a particular game (such as ONU) that could be cancelled in the event that there weren't any rainouts.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 14, 2006, 09:53:09 AM
Can other teams do this?  Schedule as many games as they want and then pick and choose which games they actually play?  Is this is a common practice?

I guess it seems to me to make more sense to leave some room in the schedule to make up those mid-week rainouts (for instance instead of scheduling ONU, use that day as an open day to be used as a makeup date if necessary). 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 14, 2006, 10:18:17 AM
WB, in regards to the cancellation of the Marietta game, I don't think the weather had anything to do with it.  It seems that the NCAC is partially to blame for the cancellation and here is an explaination from yesterday's paper:

Quote from: Joe Vardon of The Wooster Daily RecordThe threat of inclement weather caused the two teams to originally reschedule the game for today, but an NCAC rule regarding the number of game dates between a Monday and Friday in any given week forced the game to be wiped off the schedule.

The league rule states that no team shall play on more than two dates between Monday and Friday. Wooster played and defeated Otterbein 13-9 on Tuesday and has the first of two NCAC doubleheaders against Hiram set for Friday.

Noticing the scheduling error and fearing any possible league sanctions, Scots athletic director Keith Beckett urged coach Tim Pettorini to cancel the game.

The article went on to say that an NCAC spokesperson said there were no penalties for scheduling violations, but Beckett didn't want to set a bad precedence of, "sneaking around the rules."  So basically, we can blame Coach Petorinni for the scheduling goof and now, the probability of these two rivals hooking up will have to wait for the post-season or next season...
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: hut1 on April 14, 2006, 03:09:43 PM
Not much mention on here that I can see...But last week Wooster Senior Kurt Kapferer broke the school career record for HRs with his 43rd...congrats big Kurt
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 16, 2006, 09:22:53 AM
Wooster swept four games against Hiram, although they had to come from behind three times in game three.

The story of the series, though, was the play of the two third-base line balldudes.  Friday's games saw Wooster point guard Kyle Witucky tasked with the job, Kyle obviously being punished for some unknown discretion against the athletic department.  Why else would a player of his stature be subjected to nearly six hours of watching Hiram baseball?  ;) 

Witucky, however, took to it with the same ready-to-play attitude that he brought to the basketball court, wearing his mitt for the whole doubleheader, hoping to get to snag a few ground balls.  Amazingly, nothing was hit his way except a high popup that was almost right to him.  He showed admirable restraint in not stepping forward to make the catch, allowing the Hiram third baseman to display some fine hustle himself in a failed effort at a sliding grab.

Handling the job on Saturday was Wooster basketball student assistant (and excellent JV player) Jeff Clapacs.  Clapacs, luckier than Witucky, fielded a handful of chances, some difficult, without error.  He looked so smooth, I was actually hoping that Coach Pettorini would unveil an extra uniform from some hidden nook in the dugout, have him suit up, and send him into the game.

I still think catcher Brandon Boesiger should be moved to the top of the lineup.  I mean, the guy's hitting .408, his on base percentage is a ridiculous .587 and he's one of the best baserunners on the team.

Boesiger, C
Swearingen, CF
Steiner, 1B
Kapferer, DH
Quimby, SS
Romick, RF
Enos, 3B
Barone, 2B
Karpen, LF   
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 17, 2006, 03:31:34 PM
In the West, Wabash got carved up like Easter ham over in Delaware.  OWU pounded Wabash all weekend long to sweep the LGs and claim the NCAC West title and a berth in the conference tournament.  The second spot is up for grabs.  The standings for 2-4 in the conference look as such:

Denison 6-5
Wabash 6-6
Witt 6-6

Denison is at Wabash this weekend for four games while Witt is at Earlham.  Let's assume Witt sweeps Earlham (Earlham has lost all 11 of their NCAC games by a grand total of 146-34....yeeouch).  Witt's going to end up 10-6.  That means that Denison or Wabash will have to sweep the weekend series to have a chance.  Denison is definitely in if they sweep Wabash (10-5 beats 10-6...one of Denison's games vs. Earlham was rained out and won't be made up).  A Wabash sweep puts Wabash and Witt tied at 10-6 and since the two split their regular season series, your guess is as good as mine as to who gets to move on to the conference semis. 

If Wabash could have won j ust one game in Delaware...oh well.  It's looking right now like the most likely scenario is going to be Wabash and Denison knocking each other out and Witt will slide into the semis where they'll take their Scot-administered beating. 

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: earlhamalum on April 17, 2006, 04:33:43 PM
Wally- I can't wait until the day i can take my head from between my legs as an EC Baseball grad./Fan.  It is amazing how bad they are, with the field that they have.  Out Scored  146-34... THAT is AMAZING.  Hmmmm wonder why Earlham has been sooo bad over the last 6 years... Can anyone take a guess????
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 17, 2006, 08:57:53 PM
I don't know, EA. I don't know what's up with Wabash either. This has been a pretty good year, by our standards, but I wish we could be more competitive in the league.

Do any Wallies out there have any ideas as to why? Personally, I think it's the field. Unless Mud Hollow has been revamped since I graduated in 1999 the place is kind of a pit. There isn't any seating along the lines unless you count the Lambda Chi couch. With how nice the rest of our facilities are it's a bit surprising what our baseball field is like.

I can't say I know much about what other D3 schools have other than Depauw's (nice), Trinity's (pretty nice) and Southwestern's (really nice).

Anyone else? Am I wrong? Is there something else?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 17, 2006, 09:01:56 PM
I'm sorry to hear that Wabash dropped the whole series.  I knew that they had lost the first two...  I'll be rooting for either a Wabash or Denison sweep then.  Anything is better than having Wittenberg come to Wooster for a weekend.  Bad enough that we have to go down there if we make it to the conference finals whether they're in it or not.

Meanwhile, Wooster's schedule has again been retooled.  The Tuesday game against Denison that had been cancelled is back on again at 4 PM. Heidelberg is still set for Wednesday at 4 PM.  But, the two doubleheaders against OWU, home on Saturday and there on Sunday, have now been reduced to single games.  Go figure.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: earlhamalum on April 17, 2006, 11:22:37 PM
Lil' Giant-  I'd say Wabash has a typical D-3 Baseball Field.  (i assume it is the same one from 3 years ago)  Earlham plays on the nicest field and stadium in the NCAC East hands down.  Also I can't think of one field that in my four years of baseball that was nicer the EC's home field.  I'd say it was even better than D1 Butler home field.  McBride was the home of the Richmond Rooster's (a Frontier league.)  Earlham, and Richmond High School.  Now that the Rooster's left, it is just the home of the EC and RHS.  As a Colts fan, Bob and Tom had a song called LORD help our colts... I will now sing Lord help our Quakers... hopefully we can get a win either tomorrow Vs Denison or this weekend Vs Wittenberg.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 17, 2006, 11:55:26 PM
EA -
Thanks for sounding in.  I'm curious as to how the Quakes were in your era because as documented they are not competitive now and they were not competitive when I played ('86-89).  My only memory of Richmond (other than padding my stats) was showing up on campus about 2 hours before gametime (around 11 am) and having about 20 hippies sleeeping in the outfield - sleeping bags, tents, funny looking cigarettes.  Hard to build a winning baseball tradition around that.

LG, Wally--
I'm sorry to be negative but this is the forum I choose.  I was skeptical going into the season that we could not compete with the upper tier teams in the conference and the butt kicking we received by a very good OWU bore that out.  Fact is this team is going to put up record offensive numbers but have struggled to score runs against quality No. 1 pitchers (Witt, Heidelberg, OWU, DePauw) and we can't slow down the bats of good teams.
As for Wabash's mediocracy it's really about administrative committment.  The embarrassment of a field is just a symptom of the bigger problem of lack of importance baseball plays compared to other sports - namely football.  The goal for baseball has been be ok, don't embarass the school.  Basically the goal is to be .500.  When that is surpassed (roughly every 5-10 years ) it is because of very good talent on the field.
The solution will have to be multidimensional.  Better recruiting - especially in Indiana.  The Flynn regime has seen DePauw, Rose Hulman, Franklin and Manchester all pass us in baseball success. Usually better players equal better teams.   Secondly, better tradition & support is needed from alums, administration especially the AD to upgrade facilities but also Admissions and student support.  Lastly, player commitment for upper tier success needs to happen.  Certainly this has come a long way from the mid-80's when Wabash Baseball was slightly more than a glorified club sport but it's still light years away from the type of commitment extended by the Wabash football players.  In short there is a price for excellence.  My hope is that the coaching change at season's end will spark these needed changes.  I'm not  bashing on Tom Flynn here either, I think Wabash is different from Wooster (his training ground) in regards to baseball.  You have to build something before you try to plug in the Wooster formula and Flynn just didn't quite build a foundation (nor receive the support) that competes with the Woosters and OWU's.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 18, 2006, 09:57:49 AM
No need to apologize, 6-4-3...we should be doing better.  I'm not so upset about lower scoring games vs. a team's #1 starter.  Those kids are #1 starters for a reason.  But we do need to get better.  The whole program needs to do better and you've done a good job of identifying the key areas of concern.  It's a little sad to me that Wabash revamped, replaced, or rebuilt nearly all of their athletic facilities during the most recent capital campaign, but the baseball field got bubkus.  Wabash badly needs a baseball-only facility.  Wabash badly needs to fix the revolving door at the head coach's office. 

Honstly, I think Wabash baseball has gotten better recently.  When we moved into the NCAC, we moved into a very strong baseball conference.  We're slowly closing the gap, but I think it's high time that the major obstacles we've identified here get addressed if we're going to get much closer to the top. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 18, 2006, 01:14:37 PM
6-4-3,

You don't have to apologize. It's not like we're painting an inaccurate picture here. We're being honest. If our hoops or football teams had performance like this no one would accept it. Why it is accepted for baseball is beyond me.

I don't intend to disrespect the guys on the team, I think they are doing their best. But I think baseball is getting short shrift from the top down. As you say, in terms of "administrative committment". Unfortunately, regardless of the coaching change I don't see that being improved upon. Football and hoops are always going to be the top dogs in our athletic department.

Of course, it might help if Wally were to drop a couple of million on a new field.  :D
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: earlhamalum on April 19, 2006, 10:49:21 AM
BASH6-4-3-     To be brutally honest with you not much better than they are now. 

I went to Earlham to play basketball for Coach Justus, and I also had a chance to play baseball and to play at McBride.  Baseball was my better sport, basketball was my true love. (ahhhhh)  ;)   I knew both had a reputation of finishing in the bottom of league year after year.  As NCAC basketball fans know that is no longer the case with the basketball team.... now that is still the case for baseball.  From 1999 to current the head coach of EC has won 9 games out of 107 in NCAC action.  Stats should never look that bad in baseball!   Actually my Soph. Year after starting 3-3 we lost 24 straight games.  I am wondering if that is some sort of NCAA record at any level! (does anyone know where you could look that one up at??) Needless to say it was hard to focus on team goals when I played. (having individual goals got me through those 4 years)  not trying to be selfish.  I would just like to see them compete with the NCAC.   
On a good note they won 2 games Vs Bluffton last night! 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 19, 2006, 11:58:53 AM
The latest Div. III Baseball Poll (http://ttp://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll41806.pdf) was released yesterday and Wooster is #1 once again having gone 12-0 now since the last poll released on April 3rd.  Wooster is leading the nation in team batting average (.374) and they are 23rd in team ERA (3.28).  Kenyon was 2nd in the nation in batting average (.373) and OWU was 7th (.365).  Wooster is also 7th in the country in Runs per game at 10.3 rpg.  OWU was 13th at 9.4 rpg and Kenyon was 25th at 8.6 rpg.

Wooster frosh John Quimby should be a lock for Newcomer of the Year in the NCAC.  He is currently 2nd on the team in batting average at .448 and tied for the team lead with slugger Kurt Kapferer in RBI's with 43.  With those kinds of stats, he's making a bid for National Freshman of the year following Pat Christensen nabbing that honor last season. 

Speaking of Christensen, has anyone heard anything on the status of his shoulder injury?  I believe he injured the shoulder towards the end of the Florida trip, and, at the time I thought they said he would be out for a week to 10 days.  I was listening to the radio broadcast of yesterday's game and they mentioned something about the injury, but had no idea how severe the injury was or when he would return this season, if at all.  Seems kind of odd for there to be no info on one of the Scots' best players.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on April 19, 2006, 01:23:13 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 19, 2006, 11:58:53 AM
The latest Div. III Baseball Poll (http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll41806.pdf) was released yesterday [...]

I have corrected the link in the above-quoted passage. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 19, 2006, 10:12:21 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 19, 2006, 11:58:53 AM
Speaking of Christensen, has anyone heard anything on the status of his shoulder injury?  I believe he injured the shoulder towards the end of the Florida trip, and, at the time I thought they said he would be out for a week to 10 days.  I was listening to the radio broadcast of yesterday's game and they mentioned something about the injury, but had no idea how severe the injury was or when he would return this season, if at all.  Seems kind of odd for there to be no info on one of the Scots' best players.

I think it was about a week ago that I heard them say on the radio that it was a partially dislocated shoulder.  I don't even know what that means, although I've heard the term before.  It seems to me that your shoulder is either dislocated or not.  At any rate, they didn't give any time frame, but did mention that he was expected to be able to swing a bat before he'd be able to play in the field, I assume due to throwing.  As good as he is at the plate, unfortunately it's in the field where they need him the most.

MVP Brandon Boesiger today: HBP, HBP, single, double.  Current BA, .423. Current OBP, .593.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 20, 2006, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 19, 2006, 10:12:21 PM

As good as he is at the plate, unfortunately it's in the field where they need him the most.


Good point WB.  As well as the Scots are swinging the bats right now, Christensen is missed more now for his glove than his bat, although having another power hitter in the lineup wouldn't hurt by any means. 

You mentioned that Christensen would be available to bat before he would be able to platoon the outfield.  I would assume that he would take over as pretty much a full-time DH if and when he is healthy enough to return and Kapferer would be at 1st everyday.  Something he hasn't done since the weekend series against Allegheny.  Kapferer has been the Scot's DH for 14 games in a row and counting.

Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 19, 2006, 10:12:21 PM

MVP Brandon Boesiger today: HBP, HBP, single, double. Current BA, .423. Current OBP, .593.

Are you talking team or conference MVP?  That OBP percentage is unreal.  His current HBP count is up to 22 on the season which is only one off the record he set last season!  Looks like that record will be shattered considering the Scots still have 4 regular season games left and, what should be a slew of post-season games as well.

Still, my vote has to go to the big guy, Kurt Kapferer.  He's riding a 22 game hitting streak, he broke the record for career home runs, and still has an outside shot at setting the single season home run mark.  He's only 2 off his season best and he's batting nearly .400 to boot.  Not to mention that he is the team and conference leader in home runs and RBI's (he's also leading the nation in home runs).  My vote would go to the Big Kurt.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 20, 2006, 11:27:54 AM
It would create quite a dilemna if it does turn out that Christensen can hit but can't play the field.  Steiner is doing an excellent job at first base and I can't imagine him being removed from the lineup.  I'd guess that Christensen would be limited to pinch-hitting duty at least for a while.  We'll just have to see how it plays out, but I sure hope he's available asap.

For Boesiger, I was thinking team MVP not league.  I'm really not up on how individuals on other teams are doing so it wouldn't be fair to speculate on that.  As far as Boesiger beating out Kapferer (or Oliver, or anyone else) I think it's a very close call, but he'd still be my choice.  Remember, he's also an excellent defensive catcher.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 20, 2006, 11:37:43 AM
Wooster guys -

22 HBP in a single season and counting for 1 player?  That's old school!
This is such a lost art in baseball.  It's right there with the walk as the ultimate rally starter - especially against a very dominating pitcher.  My American Legion coach taught the practice and I became pretty good at it whenever I lead off an inning and we were trailing.  But in 2006 this is almost unheard of.  Don Baylor would be proud.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 20, 2006, 12:28:19 PM
BASH -

You'd like this guy.  He's a righthanded hitter who indeed has mastered the art.  Instead of leaning off an inside pitch, he sort of twists to the right, towards the catcher.  It gives the impression that he's avoiding the pitch, but he's really just getting his left shoulder into the way.  Out of the 22 HBP, I'll bet 15 or more have hit him in the same spot, the left upper back. 

He's never flinched once until yesterday when he did a double-take after the second HBP.  The radio said they thought he got hit in the kidney, but I thought it probably caught him right on the shoulder blade.  After that shot, I guess he'd had enough of getting hit, so he singled and doubled in his final two at bats.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 20, 2006, 12:45:58 PM
Coach Petorinni refers to Boesiger as a walking bruise. ;)  He said that he doesn't encourage him to get hit, but also that he can't stop him from doing it.  Besides, as Bash said, it's a lost art of the game and it is also a great asset to a team to have someone like Boesiger taking all those shots to get rallies started.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 20, 2006, 03:13:03 PM
Got to watch for those kidney shots.
We used to have a pretty decent rivalry with Marian College in Indy (got into a couple bench clearing episodes).  Anyways, I took one out on these guys in the 1st inning.  Next at bat I got drilled right in the left lat - definite pay back pitch.  Thing spasmed up so bad I could barely breath let alone throw a ball.  Definitely want to take it off the fleshy part of the shoulder.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 20, 2006, 03:36:41 PM
WB, Scots Fan

You're right I would love Boesiger's game.  Makes me think of all the major league guys who were not afraid to do the little things to help their team win.  This list is off the top of my head so I'm sure I've forgotten a few.

1st base - Pete Rose - aka Charley Hustle
2nd - Craig Biggio
ss - Walt Weiss
3rd - Pepper Martin - St. Louis Gas House Gang 1930's
RF - Brian Giles - Padres.  Dude took out the catcher in Colorado the other night to break up a DP - Got called for interference - Good baseball
CF - Lenny Dykstra - "Nails"
LF - Don Baylor for the aformentioned HBP record
C - They're all tough.  Anyone who puts on the gear for an inning has my respect.

Any others?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 20, 2006, 03:44:14 PM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on April 20, 2006, 03:36:41 PM
LF - Don Baylor for the aformentioned HBP record


Biggio has the modern-era record now. He passed Baylor last season. The overall record is held by Hughie Jennings, who played in the late 1800s and Biggio is closing in on that. He only has 13 more and the record is his.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 20, 2006, 04:26:52 PM
Going back a ways, but Ron Hunt from the early days of the Mets was one of my favorites.  He'd get hit by pitches and was unafraid at second base turning the double play. 

By the way, I saw the Giants turn an old '69 Mets style double play a few days ago. 6-4-5.  Men on first and second, ground ball to short.  Vizquel goes to Durham at second who flys over the bag and throws straight to Pedro Feliz at third.  They caught the runner from second rounding the bag too far and tagged him out.  I read somewhere that the '69 Mets turned 11 of those that season!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 20, 2006, 04:35:51 PM
And speaking of Pete Rose.  If you haven't read it already, get a copy of Donald Hall's book, Dock Ellis in the Country of Baseball.  A really good read about the acid-doing Ellis and his career in the bigs. 

The best part is when he decided that he needed to show the Cincinnati Reds that his team, the Pirates, weren't afraid of them.  His plan was to plunk every hitter in the order, in a row, one through nine, to open the game.  Right off he hit Joe Morgan.  Then Rose came up, and Ellis in the book explains that this was the part of his plan that had him really worried.  He said he knew that Rose would show no pain, etc.

But what happened was even worse.  Ellis hit Pete right in the side with his best fastball.  Rose just grinned, bent over and picked up the ball, and then daintily rolled it back to Ellis on the mound.  Then he took off and sprinted to first, as usual.  The Dock said he almost gave up right there.  He didn't, though, hitting the next two guys before his manager, Danny Murgaugh, figured out what was going on and came out and got the ball from him. :-)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 20, 2006, 06:17:25 PM
LG - You're right!  I forgot Biggio passed him last year.  Living in Colorado, I have a biased affection for Baylor - the Rockies first skipper.

WB - great story. I need to get that book
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 20, 2006, 06:22:28 PM
WB-

I saw the double play you mentioned also but wasn't it 4-6-5?
I thought I remember Visquel making the surprise throw to 3rd and saying to myself - "Dude's got game"
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 20, 2006, 06:32:04 PM
I went to the Giants' website to prove you wrong, and ended up proving you right. :-)  They have the video clip there, and it did go 4-6-5.  Man, my memory is really going south. :-)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 20, 2006, 06:43:36 PM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on April 20, 2006, 06:17:25 PMLiving in Colorado, I have a biased affection for Baylor - the Rockies first skipper.

As a native Texan and lifelong Astros fan, I think the biases offset.  ;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 20, 2006, 06:50:24 PM
WB-

I had to check the Giant website also.  I wasn't confident how I saw the play - you know with 3 kids fighting in the background at home.

LG -
my wife is a native Texan and we have these moments of difference all the time

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 20, 2006, 07:47:07 PM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on April 20, 2006, 06:50:24 PMLG -my wife is a native Texan and we have these moments of difference all the time

Good for her. As John Steinbeck said "Texas is a state of mind. Texas is an obsession. Above all, Texas is a nation in every sense of the word."

You just can't mess with that.

;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: scots31 on April 21, 2006, 03:51:23 AM
I have been reading the posts about Boesinger and I agree he is a tough player.  It seems that Wooster has had very good luck with having a great catcher to guide the team.....Byo, Radigan, now Boesinger.  I think it's funny how Radigan seemed to have a talent for leaning into pitches just like Boesinger does.  I agree that Boesinger is a very good player but I would not go as far as saying that he is the team MVP and I think his average is high since he does hit so far down in the order.  Pitchers are probably most concerned with getting out the top of the order with all the big bats that they have.  If I were to rank Boesinger as far as catching at wooster I would put him behind both Byo and Radigan talent wise though, not to take anything away from the kid.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 21, 2006, 12:35:20 PM
Quote from: scots31 on April 21, 2006, 03:51:23 AM
...I think his average is high since he does hit so far down in the order.  Pitchers are probably most concerned with getting out the top of the order with all the big bats that they have.

I'm not sure it matters too much what spot in the Scot's lineup you come up.  I really don't see an easy out one through nine for Wooster. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: scots31 on April 21, 2006, 03:17:56 PM
I am just saying that I am sure since he hits down further in the order that he sees a lot more fastballs and gets better pitches to hit...please don't think I am knocking the kid, I think he is a great player
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 25, 2006, 11:15:27 AM
I was browsing another site this morning (JJHuddle.com) actually to see if I could find any basketball recruiting info on any NCAC schools, in particular Wooster, and I ran into an interesting topic concerning DIII baseball.  The question being posed was whether or not the NCAC and/or the OAC would get more than just one team into the NCAA tournament especially when taking into consideration that the field will be expanded this season.  I would say it would be pretty much a definate possibility if Wooster or Marietta were not to win their conference tournament and the automatic bid went to another school. 

Let's just say that Wooster and Marietta both win their conference tournaments.  Does OWU have an impressive enough resume to gain an at large bid?  They did win the NCAC west rather comfortably and they did defeat #1 Wooster last weekend.  However, they have struggled against the OAC losing to Heidelberg twice, OTT and Marietta with their lone win coming against Musky.

The OAC could be really interesting.  One could make arguments for OTT, MUC and Heidelberg.  OTT pulled off a 2 game sweep of Marietta over the weekend and they are currently alone in first in the OAC by 2 games over Marietta.  MUC is currently in 3rd and could pretty much eliminate Heidelberg from at large consideration if they win out.  The Purple Raiders close the season with Marietta at home and at the Berg.  Heidelberg is currently in 4th in the OAC, trailing MUC, Marietta and OTT.  Heidelberg is currently 2 games behind MUC for 3rd and hold a one game lead over JCU for the final spot in the OAC tournament.  IMO, I don't see the OAC getting more than 2 teams in, but I would say that OTT and Marietta should get in based on their performance in the OAC for the regular season.  I would also say the same for Wooster and OWU both getting in as they both won the NCAC east and west regular season titles. 

Based on the regional rankings from the ABCA (and I know that they aren't the official rankings used by the NCAA, but they are at least a start) the top four spots in the Mideast Region are Wooster (NCAC), Manchester (HCAC), Marietta (OAC) and W&J (PrAC).  Lets just assume that those 4 schools would garner their conference automatic bid.  OWU is sitting in 5th and would look pretty good at gaining an at large.  For some reason, OTT who is currently in 1st place in the OAC with only one conference loss isn't even ranked.  I'm sure when the official NCAA regional rankings are released (which should be any day now ::)), this won't be the case.  Heidelberg is the other regionally ranked OAC rep. 

BTW, I wasn't able to find anything worthwhile on any recruiting news on the basketball front, which was my sole intent when I first ventured into JJHuddle in the first place just to let you all know. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: WoosterFAN on April 25, 2006, 11:19:12 AM
INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA Division III Baseball Committee has approved the host sites for four of the five predetermined, first-round sites of the NCAA Division III Baseball Championship. Competition for the first-rounds will be May 17-21. The sites for the Mid-Atlantic, Mideast, New England and New York areas are as follows:

Alvernia/Pennsylvania Athletic Conference, Boyertown, Pennsylvania
Eastern College Athletic Conference, Harwich, Massachusetts
Ithaca College, Auburn, New York
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute, Indiana

The predetermined host site for the South area is to be determined. The three non-predetermined host sites for the Central, Midwest and West areas will be announced at team selections on Sunday, May 14.

-- Courtesy NCAA.org

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on April 25, 2006, 06:09:38 PM
So I take that to mean that the Mideast regional will be at RHIT, regardless of who is in it?  Is RHIT going to qualify?

NCAC tournament play begins this weekend:
#2 (West) Wittenberg (22-14, 10-6) at #1 (East) Wooster (33-5, 15-1)
#2 (East) Kenyon (25-11, 10-6) at #1 (West) Ohio Wesleyan (24-11, 13-3)

Finals at Springfield next Thursday and Friday.

Daily Record article, 4/25 (http://www.the-daily-record.com/article.php?pathToFile=/articles//sports/&file=tuescotsstory.txt&article=1&tD=)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 25, 2006, 09:24:32 PM
DC

I would give the Rose Hulman Engineers an outside chance at qualifying.  They are atop the SCAC West at 12-4 conference (24-10 overall).  If they do well in the conference tourney....
The SCAC East is tough with 2 good shot playoff teams in Trinity and Milsaps (both @30-10).  If RHIT represents well.... the committee will have to consider them.

As for hosting - they hosted last year.  Did any of you Scots fans make the trip to Terre Haute (also known as Terrible Haute when I lived there in 1990-91)?  The pics from last year's regionals look like the facilities were in nice shape.  Got to hand it to RHIT for really builing a nice program the past few years.  They should do very well with their move to the HCAC next year.

Also congrats to the 4 NCAC division qualifiers.  Good luck - it's tourney time!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on April 25, 2006, 10:32:41 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on April 25, 2006, 06:09:38 PM
NCAC tournament play begins this weekend:
#2 (West) Wittenberg (22-14, 10-6) at #1 (East) Wooster (33-5, 15-1)
#2 (East) Kenyon (25-11, 10-6) at #1 (West) Ohio Wesleyan (24-11, 13-3)

Finals at Springfield next Thursday and Friday.

Does anyone know the game times in Springfield next week?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on April 26, 2006, 02:32:04 AM
Rose-Hulman (Terre Haute, IN) is in the SCAC West...
Trinity (San Antonio, TX) is in the SCAC East...
:-\
*consults atlas*
???
*re-orients atlas*
:-\
Uh....
Were there famous people associated with the SCAC whose names were "East" and "West?"  Like "Norris" and "Prince of Wales" for the NHL?
???
I know there's an SCAC team in Atlanta (Oglethorpe), so they must be in the "West" too.  Atlanta is always in the "West," or at least it used to be.
:P

:D
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 26, 2006, 07:35:48 AM
Quote from: imderekpoe on April 25, 2006, 10:32:41 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on April 25, 2006, 06:09:38 PM
NCAC tournament play begins this weekend:
#2 (West) Wittenberg (22-14, 10-6) at #1 (East) Wooster (33-5, 15-1)
#2 (East) Kenyon (25-11, 10-6) at #1 (West) Ohio Wesleyan (24-11, 13-3)

Finals at Springfield next Thursday and Friday.
Does anyone know the game times in Springfield next week?

The Wittenberg website still has the game times listed as TBA.  This whole thing still tee's me off, the fact that Wittenberg gets to host the finals.  The two likely finalists are Wooster and Ohio Wesleyan.  Both would have to make a drive southwest to play at a field that's not at all centrally located.  If I remember correctly, when this happened two years ago, some of Wooster's players were forced to take private transportation down there because either Thursday or Friday (or both) are exam days at Wooster and they couldn't finish in time to make the team bus.  Then Wittenberg's players, who were supposed to be professionally working the event, decided to sit in the stands and loudly and profanely heckle Coach Pettorini.  And, should Wittenberg happen to get in, why should they get home field advantage?

Bad enough we have to deal with them here in Wooster this weekend but to be forced to do so again next week is simply wrong.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 27, 2006, 10:27:03 AM
David Collinge

North, South, East, West -  The SCAC is geographically challenged and I transposed my directions.  Sorry I got your panties in a bunch. I'd think with nearly 2500 posts to your credit you would be above dressing down a junior varsity poster.  Funny post but I'm a little more interested in people's thoughts about baseball and the NCAC.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 27, 2006, 10:35:24 AM
My beloved Little Giants finished their season last night with an 8-4 loss to Franklin.  They finish 17-21 (7-9 NCAC).  Once again their season ends before May, they lose the season series with local rivals DePauw, Franklin and Rose Hulman and other than beating on weak sister Earlham they perform below average against the conference rivals.
I guess I'm becoming a Cubs fan of sorts as each spring my mind wanders with optimism for a Wabash Baseball winning record and even a post-season only to be disappointed by another sub-.500 season.  Maybe next year.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on April 27, 2006, 01:44:03 PM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on April 27, 2006, 10:27:03 AM
David Collinge

North, South, East, West -  The SCAC is geographically challenged and I transposed my directions.  Sorry I got your panties in a bunch. I'd think with nearly 2500 posts to your credit you would be above dressing down a junior varsity poster.  Funny post but I'm a little more interested in people's thoughts about baseball and the NCAC.

Dressing down?   :-[  I'm sorry you took it that way.  On the contrary, I take for granted that what you post is both correct and insightful, because it always is.  I was making fun of the SCAC.  I thought it was funny that the SCAC would have their East and West so far out of whack.  It never occurred to me that you might have transposed the directions (something, BTW, I do all the time myself).  I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

I too am interested in people's thoughts about baseball and the NCAC, including and especially yours, 6-4-3.   I personally have very little insight into the subject, being a couple thousand miles away.  Generally I am a lurker in here (men's hoops is my thing), but since the conversation had slowed down, I thought I'd give it a little goose.  Now I'll just fade back into the woodwork.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 27, 2006, 03:55:12 PM
DC

Guess I was a bit too quick with the retaliation chin music. In basketball vernacular - no harm, no foul.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 27, 2006, 05:10:30 PM
DC:

Nice quote and pic, by the way.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on April 29, 2006, 07:32:34 PM
NCAC semifinals:

Ohio Wesleyan advances to the NCAC championship series with a sweep of Kenyon, 12-5 and 8-0.  The Bishops will face the winner of the Wittenberg/Wooster series, which is tied at 1-1.  Wittenberg upset the top-ranked Scots 8-7 in the opener, but Wooster came back for a 5-0 season-saving win in the nightcap.  The Scots and Tigers square off tomorrow at noon to determine the other finalist.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on April 29, 2006, 08:50:28 PM
The ninth inning in the first game was one of the worst innings of baseball that I've ever seen, with a couple of strange plays thrown in to mix things up.

First, with the Scots up 3, the Tigers get the first two on - one via a single and another on the Scots 1st error of the inning.  Next, I guess to stay out of a possible double-play, Witt sacrifices the runners to 2nd and 3rd.  I'm thinking - great!  Those runs don't mean anything, take the out if they're going to give it.  When the next guy K's, it seems like the game's in the bag.  The Scots bring in Katich to close it out, but he promptly gives up a single to left.  Still not a big deal, until Sankal throws home instead of making sure that they tying run stays on first.  2 more errors, a wild pitch, and a single later the Tigers are 1 game away from winning the series.

Thanks to a great outing from Adam Samson, some timely hitting, and ZERO errors the Scots won the 2nd game and force the deciding game tomorrow.  The Scots should have the advantage with a deeper pitching staff (Witt's 3rd starter has a 5+ ERA), but the Scots have to catch the ball if they're going to win. 

Kurt Kapferer got hits in both games today to extend his hitting streak to 28 games - a new school record!

Boesinger only got hit once today - albeit with the bases loaded in the 8th in game 2 - to up his season total to 25.  His On Base Pct is now .590 (the Scots season record is .543 by Dan Penberthy in 2001.)

Go Scots!

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 30, 2006, 08:18:47 AM
Derek -

Amen on the worst inning of baseball.  That decision to throw home on the single to left was the catalyst, and although Sankal needs to shoulder a lot of the blame for it, it was a team-wide breakdown.  Everyone in his vicinity (shortstop, third baseman, center fielder) should have been yelling "Second, second base", and prior to the play the coaching staff should have gotten word what to do with the ball on a base hit.  It sure seems like they didn't.

Had that throw gone to second, the Scots would still have gotten a force at second on the ensuing ground ball, the one that Quinby booted.

I also heartily disagreed with the decision to remove Ryan Mullins after he faced only one batter, whom he struck out.  Mullins has been slowly coming around, and pitched two very solid innings up at Kent State on Wednesday.  Yesterday, he was brought in to face a lefty.  Wittenberg promptly pinch hit with a righty; Mullins k'd him anyway.  Coach Pettorini then yanked him, apparently looking to go righty/righty with Katich, but every time you bring in a new pitcher, there's the danger that something will go wrong.  And Katich has been nothing if not erratic this season.

Kapferer's hitting streak not only broke Russ Miller's team record of 27 games, but that was also the NCAC record.  Congrats to Kurt!  The DIII record, though, is still very safe.  Damian Costantina of Salva Regina (??) hit in 60 straight between April 4, 2001 and March 10, 2003.

The Wooster radio station, during their broadcast of yesterday's double header, mentioned a few times that a Wooster loss would end their season, that they couldn't see how Wooster would get a Pool C berth if they didn't at least make the league finals.

I disagree.  I can hardly see how Wooster could be left out, what with 14 available Pool C bids compared to last year's 3.  Surely at least one would be given to the Mideast, and I don't see anyone within range of Wooster's record or national ranking.  It would sure be nice to see those regional rankings...
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on April 30, 2006, 09:27:06 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 30, 2006, 08:18:47 AM
That decision to throw home on the single to left was the catalyst, and although Sankal needs to shoulder a lot of the blame for it, it was a team-wide breakdown.  Everyone in his vicinity (shortstop, third baseman, center fielder) should have been yelling "Second, second base", and prior to the play the coaching staff should have gotten word what to do with the ball on a base hit.  It sure seems like they didn't.

Had that throw gone to second, the Scots would still have gotten a force at second on the ensuing ground ball, the one that Quinby booted.


Agreed - I'm not sure where everyone's head was on that play, but it was a total breakdown.  One of the odd things was that my dad and I were trying to figure out why Witt sacrificed two runner into scoring position when they were down 3.  But without the sac, maybe Sankal doesn't try to throw home, and as you say, Quinby's boot still results in the easy force at second.

I was also trying to figure the radio guy's logic in stating that the Scots needed to win this weekend to get a NCAA berth.  It would seem to me that they're pretty close to a lock.  But let's hope that they win today and next week and take any deciions like that out of the equation.

Go Scots!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 30, 2006, 09:48:59 AM
Derek -

Yep, I agree on Witt's bunting decision also.  And it certainly looked like it was a sacrifice, not that he was bunting for a hit.  He really squared around, made sure he got the ball down before leaving the box, etc.  It was a very good bunt, but just tactically the wrong time to do it.

Let's hope that the Wooster bats really break loose today, that they play defense like they did in yesterday's game two (Barone was exceptional, handling lots of chances flawlessly), and that Coach Pettorini won't be sending anymore runners to their death at home plate with nobody out...  ???
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on April 30, 2006, 02:48:37 PM
Wooster overcomes another fistful of errors (3, 4, or 5; all three figures cited in the postgame comments of the radio guys) to defeat Wittenberg 13-3 and advance to the title series.  OWU will take on the Scots on Thursday at Springfield, time and number of games TBA.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 30, 2006, 08:45:53 PM
You guys have questioned Wooster's defensive play from the first of the season.  From the description of the game 1 collapse against Witt, the problem has not corrected itself after 41 games and is now an identity and not a trend.  There are physical errors and mental errors and throwing to home with the tying run on first is a big mental error.  I know I said earlier in a post that with repetition, these things will work themselves out by May and the Scots will be fine but now I question my position.  I'm afraid  with better competition and closer games this problem will most likely be their demise in the regionals (if not this weekend - but these games are really meaningless for Wooster in as much as making it to the next round).

Having not seen this team in person this season, I went to the Wooster website and saw 2 glaring season stats.  First, the bulk of the errors are really attributed to 2 players (Enos & Quimby) and both these guys are freshman.  They have both been very productive at the plate and thus warrant the playing time.  In short, welcome to the rest of DIII where talented frosh start but make a lot of mistakes in the field that cost the rest of us games. (By the way Wabash started frosh at SS & 2B = below .500)

Second stat is the unbelievable offensive numbers put up by this Scots team.  I believe you when you say that there are no weaknesses 1-8 in the lineup.  Can you continue to outhit your opponents to victory in the post-season?  History would suggest that pitching and defense will prevail, but this team sure can hit and I'm curious to see how well they hit in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 30, 2006, 09:29:42 PM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on April 30, 2006, 08:45:53 PMFirst, the bulk of the errors are really attributed to 2 players (Enos & Quimby) and both these guys are freshman.

Yep, Enos and Quimby are the two biggest culprits.  Enos made 4 errors in today's game, the second time this season that he's done so, tying his own record.  I guess there's a positive way of looking at that, meaning that if you were to throw out those two games he'd be fielding .897 instead of .840.  He's made some really nice plays on balls to either side of him, but has trouble when the ball is hit right at him and he can't control the hop.  Personally, I think he plays too deep.

Quimby looks like a better fielder than his numbers indicate.  He's fielding .904 with 16 errors, but has also made some nice plays out there.  And, just like his predecessor at short, DIII Player of the Year Luke Ullman, who only fielded .894 with 15 errors, Quimby hits more than enough to keep himself in the lineup. 

Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on April 30, 2006, 08:45:53 PMCan you continue to outhit your opponents to victory in the post-season?  History would suggest that pitching and defense will prevail, but this team sure can hit and I'm curious to see how well they hit in the coming weeks.

That is the big question.  Even as the competition improves, there will be few, if any, teams that can outhit and outslug Wooster.  And the Scots's pitching is possibly good enough win it all, as guys like Adam Sampson, Ryan Mullins, and Anthony Trappazzano have been throwing the ball well lately, indicating that they will give number one starter John Oliver some help.

But if the defense doesn't hold up, neither will the pitching, and it's unlikely that the offense can carry the whole load.  It's time to break out the gloves, and by the way to improve the baserunning decisions, both by the runners and the coaches.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 30, 2006, 09:49:17 PM
Here is a link to the Mideast Regional webpage at Rose-Hulman in Terre Haute:

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/sports/baseball/06regional/
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 01, 2006, 09:56:00 AM
Quote from: imderekpoe on April 29, 2006, 08:50:28 PM

The Scots should have the advantage with a deeper pitching staff (Witt's 3rd starter has a 5+ ERA), but the Scots have to catch the ball if they're going to win. 


This proved to be prophetic as the Scots rode the arm of freshman Trappuzzano and outscored the Tigers even though they again committed too many errors.  Actually it was Enos who had one bad inning in the field which led to Witt's scoring in the 6th.  Enos committed 4 of the Scot's 5 errors in the game and 3 of his miscues came in the 6th which led to Witt plating one unearned run in the inning.  The other Scot error came from back-up catcher Josh Keller replacing Boseiger in the 9th.  For the 3 game series, Enos led the Scots with 6 errors which all occurred in game 1 and game 3 as Wooster did not commit and error in game 2.  The fact that Wooster was errorless in game 2 was quite surprising because Samson got Witt to ground into something like 18 ground ball outs.

I agree with the sentiments of BASH6-4-3 in that I thought this problem of Wooster's shaky defense at times would right itself as the season wore on, but, as evidenced by ELEVEN errors in two games this weekend, it obviously hasn't.  The Scots cannot afford to be that sloppy in the field as the competion gets stronger throughout the post-season.  And that starts this Thursday against OWU.  Wooster cannot count on their bats to carry them through at this time of the year.  Pitching and defense are what win you championships.  Good pitching will win out most of the time against good hitting.  As Derek mentioned, Wooster has some outstanding depth in the pitching department as evidenced this weekend vs. Witt.  For all intents and purposes, that series should have been over on Saturday, but to Witt's credit, they jumped on the Scot's mental lapses and pushed Wooster to the brink of elimination. 

The problem for Wooster is, as BASH6-4-3 elluded to, it doesn't look like these defensive problems are going to go away and that, in the end, could be the demise of this talented ball club.  Wooster definately has the pitching to get it done.  The defense behind that pitching is what will cost Wooster in the end I'm afraid.  Just look at game 1.   Of Witt's 8 runs, FIVE were unearned and all 4 runs Witt scored in the ninth were unearned!  It's tough to win close games when you are giving your opponents extra outs and so many unearned runs and it's only going to get tougher now.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 01, 2006, 10:32:23 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 30, 2006, 08:18:47 AM

The Wooster radio station, during their broadcast of yesterday's double header, mentioned a few times that a Wooster loss would end their season, that they couldn't see how Wooster would get a Pool C berth if they didn't at least make the league finals.

I disagree.  I can hardly see how Wooster could be left out, what with 14 available Pool C bids compared to last year's 3.  Surely at least one would be given to the Mideast, and I don't see anyone within range of Wooster's record or national ranking.  It would sure be nice to see those regional rankings...


Quote from: imderekpoe on April 30, 2006, 09:27:06 AM

I was also trying to figure the radio guy's logic in stating that the Scots needed to win this weekend to get a NCAA berth.  It would seem to me that they're pretty close to a lock.  But let's hope that they win today and next week and take any deciions like that out of the equation.


I too heard this and was surprised to hear them say that if Wooster were to have lost to Witt in the NCAC semis it would have cost them a Pool C bid.  They were ranked in the top 5 all season long and were #1 for a good portion of the season.  If they weren't a lock for a Pool C bid, especially given the expanded field this year,  then something is drastically wrong with the selection committee.  Although, nothing the NCAA does that is questionable is really surprising!

I had posed this question earlier, but now that OWU and Wooster have advanced to the conference finals, do both teams warrant getting a bid?  As I stated above, Wooster has to be as close to a lock now that there could be to gaining an at large bid should they lose to the Bishops.  But, if OWU were to lose, do they get in?  My feelings are that they should get in despite not fairing well against the OAC.  Right now, the OAC has two candidates as well in OTT and Marietta.  Should OTT get the automaic from the OAC, Marietta would be hard to keep out, however, it Marietta wins the automatic, a Pool C for the OAC would be very much up in the air IMO.

BTW, the regional rankings are supposed to be released May 4th per the NCAA website.  Here is the quote from their website:

Quote from: NCAA Regional Rankings WebpageINDIANAPOLIS -- Technical difficulties will prevent the NCAA Division III Baseball Committee from publishing the regional rankings for April 27. The first published ranking is now scheduled for Thursday, May 4.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 01, 2006, 11:13:54 AM
Scotsfan,

Iwill start analyzing the Pool C contenders after the regional rankings.

Please join me on the Pool C board.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on May 01, 2006, 11:21:09 AM
RIP Derek Poe.

I have decided to lay to rest the 'imderekpoe' user name and go back to my original 'cmhscots'.  (I guess I just got tire of being referred to as Derek!)

For anyone who cares (and I can't imagine who that would be!), I use 'imderekpoe' on the the messageboard for the english rock group Muse.  'imderekpoe' is an anagram for 'pere d'emiko' which is french for Emiko's Dad.  My daughter uses 'emiko45' on that messageboard, and it seemed appropriate based on some anagram-related stuff going on there at the time that I set it up.

Mike
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 01, 2006, 11:37:52 AM
Welcome aboard, Mike! :-)

Sorry about calling you Derek, but addressing you as imderekpoe sounded silly and required lots of typing.  Maybe you should choose an interim handle such as iwasntreallyderekpoeitwasactuallysortofananagram. :-)

Jack
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on May 01, 2006, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 01, 2006, 11:37:52 AM
Sorry about calling you Derek, but addressing you as imderekpoe sounded silly and required lots of typing. Maybe you should choose an interim handle such as iwasntreallyderekpoeitwasactuallysortofananagram. :-)

Well, I certainly don't blame you for calling me 'Derek'! 

Back to baseball...
According to Wittenberg's website, Game 1 is at 6:00 pm on Thursday and Game 2 is at 2:00 pm on Friday.  Game 3, if necessary will be 30 minutes after the conclusion of Game 2. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 01, 2006, 02:50:19 PM
Ok, I remember that format from two years ago when I last made the trip.  It leaves you with trying to figure out what to do in Springfield on Friday morning until game time.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 01, 2006, 05:32:10 PM
I feel a lot better now about not understanding the "imderekpoe" reference.   :D  I am far too unhip to spot homages to English rock bands, but airport identifiers are a sub-specialty of mine.   ;)

Here's a quote from today's Daily Record (http://www.the-daily-record.com/) (from an article that has already received a comment on the DR's website  (http://www.the-daily-record.com/article.php?pathToFile=/articles//sports/&file=monscotsnotebook.txt&article=1&tD=)by our own Wooster Booster, BTW):

QuoteWith 36 victories and an excellent in-region record (26-3), it's almost inconceivable for the No. 1-ranked Scots to be left out even if they fall in their best-of-three series with OWU.

"I think we're in now," Wooster coach Tim Pettorini said. "I told our kids that today, but we know we've got to beat Wesleyan to get the No. 1 seed." [emphasis added]

Not to mention the conference championship.   ::)

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on May 01, 2006, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: cmhscots on May 01, 2006, 11:21:09 AM'imderekpoe' is an anagram for 'pere d'emiko' which is french for Emiko's Dad.  My daughter uses 'emiko45' on that messageboard, and it seemed appropriate based on some anagram-related stuff going on there at the time that I set it up

I need some aspirin.... ;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 02, 2006, 09:50:18 PM
The new ABCA poll (http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll5206.pdf) is out.

Wooster is #2, behind the College of New Jersey.  It's a good week to be a "The College Of."  :)
Ohio Wesleyan in the "also receiving votes" category.

Otterbein is at #22, Marietta is at #26.

Other area schools that may show up in Terre Haute include
#12 Manchester
#16 Aurora
ARV WashU.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 02, 2006, 10:15:22 PM
The Army of the Republic of Vietnam might be moved to the Mideast Regional?  Huh.  Besides, I'd thought they were DII...  ;)

I know, I know, they were the ARVN, but I took some poetic license.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 03, 2006, 08:48:18 PM
I agree that Wooster is in regardless, but one thing that is overlooked is the fact the rankings we talk about are not the NCAA rankings, they are the ABCA's rankings. Whether or not the NCAA's are close to that is anyone's guess. I guess we will find out tomorrow(maybe).

I have always had a soft spot for Wooster as we had a few battles during my playing days... including a Spring Break brawl in Panama City, Fl to open the 1995 season.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 04, 2006, 10:53:15 AM
I think we are all in agreement Wooster is in the next round regardless of the outcome the next 2 days.  I was hoping that OWU would also be in with a strong showing this week even if they lose the conference title but unfortunately I think the OAC will have the final say.  Otterbein, MT. Union, Marietta and Heidelberg all have good resumes and they are collectively undefeated against OWU.  Their top 4 conference tourney is next weekend.
In short, OWU better take 2/3 from Wooster.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 04, 2006, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on May 04, 2006, 10:53:15 AM

I was hoping that OWU would also be in with a strong showing this week even if they lose the conference title but unfortunately I think the OAC will have the final say. Otterbein, MT. Union, Marietta and Heidelberg all have good resumes and they are collectively undefeated against OWU. Their top 4 conference tourney is next weekend.
In short, OWU better take 2/3 from Wooster.


I agree.  OWU has had a nice season, and with the expanded field, they have a legitamate claim for a Pool C,  but their record vs. the OAC could come back to bite them in the end if they don't take the automatic bid over the next 2 days.  I'd like to see the NCAC get 2 teams in, but, at the same time, I really don't want Wooster to lose their chance at being the #1 seed in the regional which would probably happen if Wooster were to lose the series to OWU. 

There is a definate advantage to garnering the #1 seed in the regional.  According to an article in The Daily Record a few days ago, the way the bracket is set up, the #1 seed would play it's first game against a team that had already played one game earlier in the 1st day.  And the winner of that game would then have an off day the next day.  So, as much as I would like to see OWU in the national tournament, I have to admit the only way I would like to see it happen is by them getting a Pool C, which right now, doesn't seem too likely.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 04, 2006, 06:03:19 PM
First NCAA regional rankings are out. (Link here) (http://www.scac-online.org/baseball/50406regionpoll.pdf)

The Mideast rankings are as follows:
1. Wooster (29-3 reg., 36-7 overall)
2. Marietta (18-3, 26-8)
3. Manchester (19-4, 28-7)
4. Otterbein (17-7, 22-13)
5. Washington & Jefferson (19-8, 25-9)
6. Grove City (20-8, 24-10)
7. Adrian (18-6, 24-12)

That doesn't bode well for OWU's Pool C chances.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 05, 2006, 12:07:18 AM
Game One goes to Wooster, 11-8.  No details are available at this time.  Game Two is scheduled for tomorrow* at 2pm; Game Three, if necessary, will be directly after the conclusion of Game Two.

(Well, it's still 'tomorrow' for me; I suppose it's already 'today' back on Planet NCAC. :))
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 05, 2006, 12:53:52 AM
Game One box score (//http://)

Wooster overcomes four more errors to take Game One, 11-8.  After spotting the Bishops an early 1-0 lead, the Scots scored five times in the second en route to a 9-1 lead after their half of the fifth inning.  Wesleyan chipped away at the big lead, scoring five more runs before chasing Scot ace Jon Oliver in the eighth inning, but a last-gasp ninth inning rally fell short. 

Oliver moves to 8-0 on the year, surrendering 6 runs (3 earned) on 10 hits, while striking out 11 in 7 2/3 innings.  Ryan Mullins gave up two ninth-inning runs, both unearned, but held on for his 3rd save.  Michael Krieger (6-2) took the loss for OWU, giving up 9 runs (7 earned) on 7 hits and 4 walks in five innings.

OWU led off the scoring in the first when Brandon Williams singled, advanced on a ground out, and scored on an error by Wooster shortstop John Quimby.  The Scots took control in the top of the second on a three-run home run by Rob Romick before an out was recorded.  Dan Skulina also homered for the Scots, as did OWU second baseman Kyle Sherman.  Wooster's Reilly Enos went 3 for 5, scoring twice and driving in a run with a sixth inning single.  Scot catcher Brandon Boesinger reached base four times (two doubles and two more HBPs) and scored three runs.  Senior Adam Toney led the Bishop attack with three hits, including a double, and two RBIs. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 05, 2006, 10:42:40 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on May 05, 2006, 12:53:52 AM
Scot catcher Brandon Boesinger reached base four times (two doubles and two more HBPs) and scored three runs. .

That performance by Boesiger in yesterday's game raised his OBP to over the .600 mark! :o  This kid really has a knack for getting on base any way possible!  Also, by him getting plunked 2 more times yesterday, he now owns the NCAC record for HBP's and he is closing in fast on the DIII record which stands at 33!

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 05, 2006, 12:24:19 PM
Since we're in the middle of the NCAC championship finals between Wooster and OWU, I just thought I'd throw out a little tidbit regarding the history between these two storied programs on the diamond.  This series has been even more competitive than I thought it was.  I knew these 2 schools had a pretty good rivalry going in baseball, but I never realized how close the all-time series is.  Including last night's win by the Scots, Wooster now holds a narrow 71-68-1 lead in the series.  Wooster also leads the Bishops in the Conference Championship category by a count of 10-6.  Wooster and OWU have accounted for 16 of the 21 NCAC champions with Allegheny winning the other 5.  The rivalry and domination of the NCAC between Wooster and OWU kind of reminds me of Wooster and Witt on the hardwood in a way.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 05, 2006, 05:36:19 PM
Wooster outlasts OWU 9-8 in a nailbiter to win the NCAC Tournament Championship.  Wooster advances to the NCAA regional tournament with a 38-7 record; the Scots will likely be the top seed in the Terre Haute Regional.

Congratulations to the Scots and Bishops on great seasons.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on May 06, 2006, 12:33:33 AM
A great series for the Scots over a good OWU team.  I wish that I could have made it over, but it just didn't work out.

Some interesting (IMO) stats for the Scots:

Romick earns the tourney MVP with a team leading 11 RBI's and a slugging percentage of .933

Boesinger had 5 doubles and 1 single in 12 official AB.  Combined with 4 walks and 6 HBP, he had an unreal on-base percentage of .727.  He raised his season OBP to .608 and is a lock to break the season record of .543 set by Dan Penberthy in 2001.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 07, 2006, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: Joe Vardon, The Daily RecordAfter sweeping Ohio Wesleyan in the best-of-three NCAC Championship Series on Thursday and Friday, the Scots will be off until they begin play in the NCAA Div. III Mideast Regional on March 17 in Terre Haute, Ind.

That's a ton of vacation time within the parameters of a baseball season...

It sure is! :D
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bigkrapper on May 08, 2006, 03:37:28 PM
First, congrats to Wooster on another great NCAC Tournament, and Regular Season.  KEEP ON PLAYING!

Just a quick question for those who made it down to Springfield.  The box score for game two lists the attendance at 225 and game one at 275.  Is this accurate?  The only reason I ask is because the semifinal game between Wooster and Witt have three games attendance listed at 150, 150, and 130?  I have a hard time believing that many more people traveled to watch the championship.  Wouldn't it have been nice for fans to be close to where the games where.  While I can't speak for OWU fans I can remember Wooster winning many regular season titles and watching a lot of great college games at Thurman Munson, or at Wooster.  The light(s) argument the NCAC makes is a bunch of crap.  First, the weather was perfect this weekend and second even if it was not they have a whole other weekend to get the games in before the regional.   Can anyway explain the point of the regular season (aside from the obvious you have to qualify for the NCAC Tournament)?  What is the reward for winning the regular season?  Playing a championship game 2.5 hours away? 
Just a note from personal knowledge, Kent State will be hosting the Division 1 Mid-American Conference Tournament, (the are about to win the Regular Season) and they do not have lights at their stadium?
Maybe this will get some people talking!
I just feel like the NCAC is punishing the stronger East conference, Outside of OWU (which is a great baseball program) who else belongs?  The top teams year in and year out are Wooster, OWU, Denison, Kenyon, Allegheny.  Wooster, OWU, and ALL winning the last 21 championships? 
OK I AM DONE RANTING!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 08, 2006, 04:56:42 PM
bk,

I didn't attend last week's games in Springfield, but I share in your opinions and questions  about where the NCAC championship series is held and why it is held there.  Facilities shouldn't have any bearing on where the championship series is held.  Facilities aren't pre-determined in basketball, so why do they have to be in baseball?  There's another beef I have with how the NCAC handles the championship series and that is how the home team is determined.  Instead of rewarding the home team to the team with the best conference record, (Wooster was 15-1 in the NCAC East compared to OWU going 13-3 in the NCAC West) they have a coin flip to determine the home team for game 1.  Then, the loser of the coin toss is the home team for game 2.  Wooster lost the coin toss to OWU and was the visiting team for game one.  And if a game 3 is needed, they have another coin toss to determine the home team.  So, even though Wooster had the better conference mark, if a game 3 would have been neccessary, they would have been subject to the laws of chance to see whether or not they could have the advantage of being the home team.  Already, the NCAC has taken away any advantage for having the best conference record by pre-determining the site of the NCAC championship series, and they take it a step furter not even rewarding the team with the best conference record a chance to be the home team the majority of the series.  I think the NCAC needs to refine some things about how it runs the NCAC championship series IMHO! 

Rant's over for me too... ;)

As for the attendance down in Springfield and why the #'s were more than the Wooter-Witt semifinal series at Wooster, I would guess it has to do with OWU and Wooster having fairly good followings on the road.  I know Wooster has a good following away from Art Murray and I would imagine, because of OWU's history of success, they would have a similar road following to that of Wooster's.  I wouldn't imagine Wittenberg's fans travelling to Wooster in the same #'s as Wooster's and OWU's fans travelled to Springfield.  Plus, given the dislike between Wooster and Wittenberg, I would guess there were a couple of locals who showed up just to cheer against Wooster.  Just a guess though. ;) 8)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 08, 2006, 05:34:35 PM
It was a lucky thing for Wooster, OWU, and Wittenberg that they did have good weather, as it was mentioned several times on the radio broadcast that the tarp was torn and was of no use.  Seems a bit more important to me to have a tarp than lights, but what do I know.  Plus, although the facility is really nice as far as the press box, grandstand, etc., by all accounts the field is still rough and they couldn't even keep the bases in the ground.

I'm really hoping that now that Denison has lights in Granville that they will put in a bid to host both the NCAC finals and the Mideastern Regional in the future.  Denison is only 45-50 minutes from Wooster and is probably even closer to OWU.  Plus, Granville has it all over Springfield as far as ambiance.

I've been talking to the people over at Rose-Hulman regarding tickets at the regional.  There will not be an all-tournament pass.  Tickets are either $5 or $10 per day, depending on whether you buy general admission (baseline bleachers) or preferred seats (theatre-style seats behind the plate).  There will be in-an-out privileges, and it is permissible to bring in food/drink.  He did, however, say that the brats are very good. :-)

Is anyone from Wooster thinking of making the trip?  I'm toying with the idea, but can't quite decide.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 08, 2006, 06:29:37 PM
Regarding the question of home-field advantage based on conference record, recall that the NCAC engages in divisional play in baseball.  As I understand it, each team's conference schedule consists of four games each (two doubleheaders) against the other 4 teams in their division, for a total of 16 games.  Games played against conference members in the other division do not count towards conference records.  That means that Wooster and OWU had no conference games in common, excluding the conference semifinals, and their respective conference records are apples and oranges.  For all intents and purposes, they played in different conferences prior to the tournament. 

It's similar to the World Series, where home field advantage is not determined by the records compiled almost entirely against intra-leage opponents.  Instead of using records with few if any common opponents, MLB uses an entirely logical, reasonable basis to determine home-field advantage in the Fall Classic: it goes to the team representing the league that wins an otherwise meaningless exhibition game played by players selected largely on the bases of their overall popularity and that of their home ballclubs....

uh....wait a second...scratch that last paragraph.  :D
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 09, 2006, 12:25:59 PM
As I was perusing the article by Joe Vardon from last Sunday's Daily Record, I came across an interesting stat and a dubious record the Scots are chasing and it isn't one you would necessarily be thrilled about breaking.  That record being for team errors for a season.  The record stand at 105 and was set in 1997.  Wooster has committed 92 on the season to date.  Ironically enough, the record was set during arguably the Scot's most successful season as they finished national runner-ups in 1997.  So maybe Wooster can get it done in the post-season with a bit of a shaky defense.

Also of note from that article, Wooster wasn't exactly stellar defensively last season either.  But they managed to turn it on and only committed 4 errors in their 4 games in last year's Mideast Regional.  Maybe the extended layoff will give the Scots some time to heal (both physically and mentally) and also give them some extra time to work on some of their defensive lapses that have been plaguing them throughout the season.  Obviously, Wooster has proven that you can go far in the post-season even if you are setting records for errors in a season!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on May 10, 2006, 12:15:21 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 09, 2006, 12:25:59 PM
Obviously, Wooster has proven that you can go far in the post-season even if you are setting records for errors in a season!

Agreed.   But they've been consistently bad in the field all year, and I think that Einstein might think it insane to expect different results from the same players in the postseason.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 11, 2006, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: Joe VardonThe College of Wooster (38-7), which won its third straight NCAC championship and 11th overall last weekend, swept the league's four individual awards, The Daily Record has learned.

Scots 25th-year coach Tim Pettorini was named NCAC Coach of the Year for the seventh time and senior Jon Oliver became the school's second two-time Pitcher of the Year. Senior designated hitter Kurt Kapferer kept the NCAC Player of the Year Award in Wooster for the fourth consecutive season and freshman shortstop John Quimby is the league's Newcomer of the Year.

The individual awards and All-NCAC teams will be officially announced Thursday.

The Scots, who took two straight from Ohio Wesleyan in the league's championship series May 4-5, claimed all four NCAC individual honors for the first time in school history.  (emphases added)

Link to source article from the Daily Record (http://www.the-daily-record.com/article.php?pathToFile=/articles//sports/&file=thuscotsbaseballawards.txt&article=1&tD=), which may not work if you are not a subscriber to the online edition.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 11, 2006, 09:08:27 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 09, 2006, 12:25:59 PM
As I was perusing the article by Joe Vardon from last Sunday's Daily Record, I came across an interesting stat and a dubious record the Scots are chasing and it isn't one you would necessarily be thrilled about breaking.  That record being for team errors for a season.  The record stand at 105 and was set in 1997.  Wooster has committed 92 on the season to date.  Ironically enough, the record was set during arguably the Scot's most successful season as they finished national runner-ups in 1997.  So maybe Wooster can get it done in the post-season with a bit of a shaky defense.

Of course, the record for most errors is always easier to set when you play more games. The 55 games in 1997 is a good chunk.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 12, 2006, 10:46:23 AM
Pat, thanks for putting the buzz-kill on something I was trying very hard to put a positive spin on. ;)  If the Scots were able to clean up their act a tad and they happened to get through to the CWS, they would come close to the 55 games Wooster played in the '97 season.  They have played 45 games now, and if they keep winning, they would play at least 4 more games next weekend, and by making the CWS, there's the possibility for even more games.  It's still no excuse for how poorly this team has played in the field, but any positive spin at this point can't hurt IMO.  It basically boils down to the gawdy amount of errors this team commits just becomes so irritating.  When a team is so loaded with talent, but can't field a ground ball cleanly, it just seems like it could all go to waste.

BTW, the record for worst fielding percentage wasn't set in 1997, so the 55 games played was a major contributing factor to that record being set.  This year's team has put up the worst fielding percentage in 12 year and if the Scots don't get their act together next weekend, they could break the record next weekend in less than 50 games.  :o ::)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 12, 2006, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 12, 2006, 10:46:23 AMThey have played 45 games now, and if they keep winning, they would play at least 4 more games next weekend...

ScotsFan -

An article in today's Daily Record mentions that the Scots have been told that they will be the top seed in the Mideast Regional.  If it contains seven teams (which they don't know yet), Wooster would only have to play three games if they win straight through.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 12, 2006, 10:31:30 PM
If this is true, it's ridiculous and unprofessional for the committee to say that. I have never had much respect for the committee in recent years or the Mideast members thereof, but this really would take the cake.

I guess this makes the convenient cancellation of the Marietta/Wooster game pay off nicely.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 13, 2006, 06:21:09 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 12, 2006, 10:31:30 PMI guess this makes the convenient cancellation of the Marietta/Wooster game pay off nicely.

A rather inconvenient remark.  Enjoy the negative karma.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 13, 2006, 11:25:11 AM
Um, ok. I have no idea what you mean by that. But that's fine.

Here's a fun fact for you though. The only precip recorded in Wooster on the 13th was on the 11 p.m. hour. Since we know Wooster has no lights, I'm guessing that didn't play a factor.

More fun facts. Clear skies were observed at station KBJJ (what Weather Underground came up with for Wooster) from 8:15 until 2 p.m. with a drying wind ranging from 4 to 16 mph throughout the day. Plenty of morning sun. Only few to scattered clouds were observed throughout the day.

Bottom line? There's no reason Wooster and Marietta couldn't have played April 13. In a do-or-die situation (there was no time at which the game could have been made up after this), there's no excuse for calling it off.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on May 13, 2006, 11:59:19 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 13, 2006, 11:25:11 AM
Bottom line? There's no reason Wooster and Marietta couldn't have played April 13. In a do-or-die situation (there was no time at which the game could have been made up after this), there's no excuse for calling it off.

The reason for the game being cancelled was discussed on here a few pages back.  After the game was postponed on the 12th (due to predicted storms), an NCAC rule game to light that limits the number of days during the week that a team can play to two.  Due to Easter, the Scots were playing a DH on Friday (instead of Sunday).  Since the Scots had already played against Otterbein on Tuesday, the conference rule theoretically prohibited them playing again during the week.  The conference did later state that no penalty would have been imposed, but the Scots didn't want to take the chance of forfeiting some games and ruining a fine season.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 13, 2006, 12:27:40 PM
And phones haven't been introduced to Wooster? How hard would it have been to call the league office and ask a question?

I don't buy that. If that was the case, I don't know why there was even a consideration for playing the game on the 13th, and rather after the 12th was rained out (rightly) they say "well this league rule says we can't play tomorrow." That statement, or anything like it, was never disseminated by either Wooster or Marietta. After the 12th was rained out, the information I remember was that the game was originally rescheduled for the 13th.

In any event, very poor communication at the least by Wooster and the NCAC if you toe the party line. The scenarios only get worse from there. Sorry I didn't know about this board at the time of the discussion, but my opinion would have been the same.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 13, 2006, 12:39:43 PM
Here's a fun fact for you, Spence.  For years, Marietta's Coach Schaly would not agree to play Wooster at Wooster, although he was perfectly content to schedule the Scots in Marietta.  So, for years, two of the best baseball programs in Ohio did not meet on the field during the regular season.

Under your new coach, relations have improved.  Wooster played in Marietta in 2005 and had the game scheduled here in 2006. You implying that Wooster, after finally getting a working "home and home" relationship with Marietta, would purposely cancel a ballgame in order to protect a ranking is absurd and insulting to Wooster's coach and program.  Perhaps you should talk to your coach and see what he thinks.  I'd be very surprised and disappointed if he held the same view.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 13, 2006, 01:23:14 PM
I completely understand why Schaly never wanted to play at Wooster. I'm not going to speculate (not that it's really speculation) why, but I understand and fully supported it. I didn't really want to play Wooster, but it's not my program and I know coach Brewer after the committee decisions of the last few years wanted to leave no doubt as to the schedule we play.

You might think what I say is absurd, but so was West Virginia trying to count a loss against us as an exhibition game after the fact. But that happened. That's just one example.

As of now, none of this matters because we for some reason cannot catch a break against Otterbein. DeMark was cruising before his back acted up and we end up throwing a freshman in there against the heart of their order, without our pitching coach, who is not even at the park due to illness. Give Otterbein credit, but I'm starting to know how Ohio Wesleyan felt in the 90s when they had very very good teams but could not would not somehow get by Marietta.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 15, 2006, 06:53:09 AM
The Mideast Regional information is up.  7 teams.  Here's the link:

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/sports/baseball/06regional/

All the regionals are up at the NCAA site:

http://www.ncaasports.com/baseball/mens/story/9439692
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 15, 2006, 07:04:50 AM
I've just noticed that in the last couple of days I've lost a couple of karma points.  Not that these are very important, but it does kind of annoy me that I was obviously smitten because I took offense to a new guy coming on the board who immediately jumped on Wooster's program by insinuating that they cancelled a game against his team in order to protect their national ranking.

Last winter I deserved what I got, or more.  I think this was unfair.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: kcreds on May 15, 2006, 09:25:31 AM
Wooster Booster: Join the crowd. It is very interesting to me that the powers to be even allow karma and who gets to use them is even more interesting. I started a very good topic on spring practices and agreed with most people on the issue but amazingly enough, no karma. It is just a tool for the ones that want to feel empowered or an incentive for someone to get on here and post junk just to get their numbers up. If God forbid you have a difference in opinion with a fan of a certain college that has many posters, watch out. It also allows individuals to be a coward and hide behind them. Like a lot of you on here, I'm not going to suck up to the karma carriers and no matter how many negative karmas I will get, I will still state my opinion. It is nice to be respected but not at the expense of your integrity. The ones that will disagree with me will be the ones that have them or the ones that don't get controversial with the ones that do. I for one appreciate all the posts and links. This is a wonderful site and I find myself visiting it several times a day. Karma or no karma, I like all of you guys.   
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 15, 2006, 06:49:39 PM
The All-Conference selections have been announced.  They're not posted on the NCAC Baseball page (http://www.northcoast.org/ba/ba.html), but some amateur sleuthing turned up the press release (http://www.northcoast.org/ba/baallncac06.pdf). 

I believe it's already been mentioned in here that Wooster swept the individual awards, although the press release indicates that the Coach of the Year award was split between Wooster's Tim Pettorini and Kenyon's Matt Burdette.

Overall, here's the representation by team:

East Division:
Allegheny: 2nd Team: P Drew Scibetta; Honorable Mention: C Zack Oblak
Hiram: Honorable Mention: 2B Jake Bailey, P John Prejsnar
Kenyon: 1st Team: SS Brendan Holsberry, 3B Matt Marcinczyk, OF Brad Reynolds; 2nd Team: OF Chad Rothschild; Honorable Mention: C Tyler Kavanaugh, 1B Blaise Milburn
Oberlin: Honorable Mention: 1B Joe Sheehan, SS Seth Binder
Wooster: 1st Team: DH Kurt Kapferer, OF Shaun Swearengen, P Jon Oliver, P Adam Samson; 2nd Team: C Brandon Boesinger, 2B Mike Barone, P Anthony Trapuzzano; Honorable Mention: 3B Oliver Enos, P Walt Samson

West Division:
Denison 1st Team: C A.J. Jezierski, 1B Lee Fischer, OF Todd Pitt; 2nd Team: P J.D. Wyborny; Honorable Mention: 3B Andy Johnson, P Dallas Puskar
Earlham: 2nd Team: OF Derreck Parkevich; Honorable Mention: C Cal Wilson, OF Eric Sturgeon
Ohio Wesleyan: 1st Team: 1B A.J. Dote, 2B Kyle Sherman, SS Brandon Williams, OF Adam Toney, P Sean Speed; 2nd Team: P Mike Krieger; Honorable Mention: 3B Sammy Hall, P Adam Dunn
Wabash: 2nd Team: 3B Jared Bogan, OF Phil Ramos; Honorable Mention: IF Matt Dodaro, P Chris Schmaltz
Wittenberg: 1st Team: P Jason Holmberg; 2nd Team: DH Brian Hampp, OF Pat Williams, P Steve Less; Honorable Mention: SS K.R. Schlievert, OF Matt Berry

Congratulations to these 48 outstanding student athletes!

Note: 3 first teamers from Dension, despite not making the playoffs, vs. only one for Wittenberg, which did.  Seems a little off-kilter to me.  Also it stands out that Wooster frosh SS John Quimby was left off the lists, despite being named the NCAC Newcomer of the Year and finishing in the top 10 in the league in six offensive categories, including a league-leading 54 RBIs.  Four other shortstops received all-conference accolades. ???
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 15, 2006, 09:18:12 PM
And even though I've just finished off half a large pitcher of margaritas, I can tell you that Allegheny's Drew Scibetta deserves to be a first-team pitcher.  Geeze, the guy struck out over 4,200 men in 11 innings of work...
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2006, 06:08:43 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 15, 2006, 07:04:50 AM
I've just noticed that in the last couple of days I've lost a couple of karma points.  Not that these are very important, but it does kind of annoy me that I was obviously smitten because I took offense to a new guy coming on the board who immediately jumped on Wooster's program by insinuating that they cancelled a game against his team in order to protect their national ranking.

Last winter I deserved what I got, or more.  I think this was unfair.

Quote from: kcreds on May 15, 2006, 09:25:31 AM
Wooster Booster: Join the crowd. It is very interesting to me that the powers to be even allow karma and who gets to use them is even more interesting. I started a very good topic on spring practices and agreed with most people on the issue but amazingly enough, no karma. It is just a tool for the ones that want to feel empowered or an incentive for someone to get on here and post junk just to get their numbers up. If God forbid you have a difference in opinion with a fan of a certain college that has many posters, watch out. It also allows individuals to be a coward and hide behind them. Like a lot of you on here, I'm not going to suck up to the karma carriers and no matter how many negative karmas I will get, I will still state my opinion. It is nice to be respected but not at the expense of your integrity. The ones that will disagree with me will be the ones that have them or the ones that don't get controversial with the ones that do. I for one appreciate all the posts and links. This is a wonderful site and I find myself visiting it several times a day. Karma or no karma, I like all of you guys.   

Amen to that kcreds and WB!  Personally, the whole karma thing doesn't mean a whole lot to me in terms of interpreting someone's credibility on this board.  I look more at how many posts someone has.  To me, the # of posts goes a heck of a lot more than how many karma points they have or don't have.  Like you both said, many times you have something very interesting to add to the conversation in here and no one feels like giving karma, but the second you disagree or have an opinion that might be a bit contreversial and watch your karma drop faster than you can blink.  That's why I look at the # of posts before I check out whether or not a poster has a positive or negative karma.  I'm not going to be afraid of letting my true opinions be known just so I don't lose any karma points!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: scotty on May 16, 2006, 07:42:51 PM
when i joined the board a year ago, i inquired to why some of the OAC schools had rosters in football that dwarfed the NCAC schools...big time negative karma...i actually worried about my karma...shame on me...

"Red Stripe Beer and Regae"...helping the whiteman relax...
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 16, 2006, 10:55:22 PM
Good luck to the men of WOO this week as they defend their Mideast title.
May your pitchers throw strikes, fielders make plays and hitters find outfield grass with men on base.  Most of all, make the rest of us in the NCAC proud.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 16, 2006, 11:04:39 PM
Lol, thanks BASH.  And may the men of BASH continue their improvement next season and show the men of WITT the door.  :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 17, 2006, 08:12:05 PM
Nice game reports on the regional updates page.
Thanks to David Collinge for the Mideast updates from Terre Haute. 
Reminds me of Saturdays in the fall sitting in front of my computer following all the games in the midwest as I soak in the Colorado sunshine
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 18, 2006, 01:58:10 PM
The bad news is that Wooster lost their regional opener to Manchester, and now must face Otterbein in an elimination game.

The good news is that the Scots committed just one harmless error, a two-out throwing error by Adam Samson that did not result in a run. 

Wooster faced Ottebein twice in the regular season, with the Scots taking both.  Wooster won 13-5 at Westerville April 4 behind Anthony Trappuzano (6.1 IP, 5 R, 4 ER, 8 H, 1 BB, 6 K), today's likely starter.  Story (http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/recaps/2006/otterbein.php).  A week later, the Cardinals traveled north and dropped a 13-9 decision to the Scots.   Story (http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/recaps/2006/otterbein2.php).

Otterbein will likely start OAC Pitcher of the Year Dan Remenowsky (8-2, 1.64), who was held out of the Cardinals' first two regional games.  Remenowsky did not face the Scots in either game, nor in either game in last year's Terre Haute regional.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 18, 2006, 07:59:11 PM
Those regular season scoring totals are not at all indicative of what challenge for Wooster tonight will be like. Remenowsky is a probable all-american pitcher and was the OAC pitcher of the year over Eisenberg.

Tough spot. Weird spot.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 18, 2006, 08:28:13 PM
On the contrary, I believe that actual game results are at least somewhat indicative of how these teams might perform against each other.  This is especially true of Otterbein's batting line against the pitcher they're likely to see tonight.  I don't see how you can think otherwise.

And I did mention Remenowsky's bona fides and point out that the Scots had not faced him.  Maybe you didn't notice that.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on May 18, 2006, 09:42:27 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on May 18, 2006, 08:28:13 PM
On the contrary, I believe that actual game results are at least somewhat indicative of how these teams might perform against each other. This is especially true of Otterbein's batting line against the pitcher they're likely to see tonight. I don't see how you can think otherwise.

And I did mention Remenowsky's bona fides and point out that the Scots had not faced him. Maybe you didn't notice that.

DC - I thought that you made it quite clear that the Scots would be up against a very good pitcher tonight.  In any case, Remenowsky is off to a great start.  Through the first 5 batters the offensive highlight was a popup to short by Enos!  After 2 innings he's the only Scot to put the ball in play.

1 - 0 Cardinals in the middle of the second.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 18, 2006, 11:37:21 PM
I assume the difference is crystal now.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 18, 2006, 11:47:25 PM
Gloat all you want, if it pleases you.  I applaud Remenowsky for an outstanding performance.  He's a special talent, and nobody in here has ever questioned that, despite what you want folks to think. 

In the meantime, Trappuzano also had a pretty good outing, holding Otterbein to 3 runs...not unlike his non-indicative performance against Ott in the regular season. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 18, 2006, 11:59:51 PM
13, 13, 1. You tell me if it was indicative.

Not quite the same when you can throw your best pitching and don't have mid-week conference doubleheaders to worry about against teams that are actually capable of beating you.

I never thought Trapuzzano wouldn't have a good outing.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 19, 2006, 11:37:26 AM
First off, congrats to the Wooster seniors on their fine carreers on the diamond for the Scots. 

I don't know if shocking or disappointing is the better term to use when describing the abrupt end to the Scots' season.  I'm sitting here trying to figure out what went wrong for the Scots the past 2 days in Indidana, and the biggest thing I keep coming back to is the WEATHER!!! 

Think about it.  Wooster had Manchester's starter, Sprunger, on the ropes on Thursday evening before Mother Nature decided to interrupt things.  Wooster already had 4 runs in and had 2 on with one out when things were stopped.  Had the game not been stopped, who knows how many more runs Wooster could've have tagged on?  Not to mention the fact that John Oliver was cruising, only making one bad pitch through 4 innings of work.  He was well on his way to another complete game.  Add to all of that, the stoppage gave Manchester some needed rest.  The advantage of being the #1 seed was no longer an advantage. 

I'm not saying that things would be different had Mother Nature not interrupted.  Manchester is more than capable of putting up big #'s and they could have gotten to Oliver.  It just didn't look to good for the Spartans.  Wooster had all the Mo on their side and they seemed to have Sprunger figured out pretty well.  Then it all gets stopped and Manchester brings in their closer the following morning and he pitches lights out for 5.2 innings.  I know that the Scots have no one to blame but themselves for their poor showing in the Mideast Regional, but I'm putting a large portion of the blame on good ole Mother Nature!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 19, 2006, 04:13:11 PM
Rained for both teams. Wooster left 11 on base in the first 5 innings, didn't put it away when they should and Manchester came back and beat them. Manchester's a resilient, no-quit team with or without a rain delay. They were down 4-1 to Marietta today, but were hanging around just like they did against Wooster, just clinging to the edge of the game, then came from behind.

Waters and Remenowsky completely overpowered Wooster's perceived strength -- offense. Their down the line pitching was what it was expected to be -- decent, not great, but decent. One would think it was good enough to win for a team that was averaging like 11 runs per 9 innings. But that might have been a misleading stat.

Waters was coming in for Manchester against Wooster, rain or not, I suspect. Their MO in close games seems to be to keep it close long enough to get it to Waters. Obviously in a tourney situation, long enough is not as long as it was in the regular season.

Win that first game and only throwing Oliver 4 innings becomes a huge advantage. But if you lose, then yes, being the #1 seed doesn't matter anymore. Obviously.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 19, 2006, 05:34:50 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 19, 2006, 04:13:11 PM
Rained for both teams. Wooster left 11 on base in the first 5 innings, didn't put it away when they should and Manchester came back and beat them. Manchester's a resilient, no-quit team with or without a rain delay. They were down 4-1 to Marietta today, but were hanging around just like they did against Wooster, just clinging to the edge of the game, then came from behind.

Waters and Remenowsky completely overpowered Wooster's perceived strength -- offense. Their down the line pitching was what it was expected to be -- decent, not great, but decent. One would think it was good enough to win for a team that was averaging like 11 runs per 9 innings. But that might have been a misleading stat.

Waters was coming in for Manchester against Wooster, rain or not, I suspect. Their MO in close games seems to be to keep it close long enough to get it to Waters. Obviously in a tourney situation, long enough is not as long as it was in the regular season.

Win that first game and only throwing Oliver 4 innings becomes a huge advantage. But if you lose, then yes, being the #1 seed doesn't matter anymore. Obviously.

Yes it rained for both teams.  Thanks for pointing out the obvious!  My point was that the rain clearly hurt Wooster more than it hurt Manchester.  As highlighted in your own quote, you said Manchester was bringing in Waters soon anyways, so their gameplan didn't have to change much as far as rearranging their pitching matchups.  I highly doubt that Coach Pettorini had any plans on removing Oliver anytime soon and even if and when that would have happened, he wouldn't have had to go to his #2 starter to complete the game.  Furthermore, Wooster had Sprunger on the ropes and you can't deny that.  Does Manchester rally against a solid pitcher like Oliver?  It's possible, but not likely.  All I'm saying is, the rain hurt Wooster a heck of a lot more than it hurt Manchester.

One other interesting tidbit.  Because of the rain, Wooster went from the possibility of having Thursday off, to having to play a game and a half.  The #7 seed Adrian Bulldogs went from having to face an elimination game on Thursday to having the day off!  Guess all those advantages for being the #1 seed were thrown right out the window when the rains came Wednesday night!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 19, 2006, 06:43:23 PM
You're confusing losing advantages from the rain with losing advantages from well, losing. You lost the advantages of being in the winner's bracket when you lost? Thank you Mr. Obvious!

Your post made it sound like you would hang 10 runs on Sprunger and I don't think that was going to be the case because he wouldn't have been left in long enough.

Look, if you couldn't score enough runs to beat teams with Samson and Trapuzzano throwing fairly well, then you weren't going to win the tournament anyway, even if it only took two wins. You still would have had to get by Marietta which knocked Waters around.

All you have to do is win. Score another run or two. Do something. Anything. Five runs is by almost half the least runs Manchester scored in the tournament. Wooster had every chance to win that game, rain, no rain, hail, fog, lightning (all of which we've had at one regional or another!).

Blaming the weather is just weak.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 20, 2006, 02:31:36 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 19, 2006, 06:43:23 PM

You still would have had to get by Marietta which knocked Waters around.


Wow, color me impressed!!!  I'm sure the 5.2 innings he pitched on Thursday against Wooster had nothing to do with him running out of gas in the 9th after already pitching 3 innings in that game against mighty Marietta?! ::)

Quote from: Spence on May 19, 2006, 06:43:23 PM

Your post made it sound like you would hang 10 runs on Sprunger and I don't think that was going to be the case because he wouldn't have been left in long enough.


Where in my post did I say that Wooster would hang 10 runs on Sprunger?  All I said was that the Scots already put 4 up against him and had 2 on with only 1 out and were showing no signs of letting up.  Can you deny that fact??  I don't recall Manchester making any moves to their bullpen to that point?!  There's no denying Manchester caught a huge break by the game being called at that point in time and if you can't see it, let me know what you are smoking, because I'd like some too.

And as for this:

Quote from: Spence on May 19, 2006, 06:43:23 PM

Blaming the weather is just weak.


Allow me to remind you of something else I said:

Quote from: ScotsFan on May 19, 2006, 11:37:26 AM

I'm not saying that things would be different had Mother Nature not interrupted.  Manchester is more than capable of putting up big #'s and they could have gotten to Oliver. 


Never did I completely put the Scot's collapse in this regional totally on the Weather!  Once again, from an earlier post:

Quote from: ScotsFan on May 19, 2006, 11:37:26 AM

I know that the Scots have no one to blame but themselves for their poor showing in the Mideast Regional, but I'm putting a large portion of the blame on good ole Mother Nature!

I was just simply stating that things could have been much different had Mother Nature not decided to drop in and interrupt things.  Again, if you can tell me that Wooster's chances wouldn't have been much better off had that game been able to conclude Wednesday night, I say let me know what you are on!  It's easy for you to sit back and act like a championship team should be able to overcome adversity such as that, which I admit, should be the case.  Wooster didn't respond to the adversity that was thrown their way and they didn't deserve to advance.  I just hope, should Marietta advance out of this regional, that Mother Nature doesn't decide to pay them a similar visit in Appleton?  ::) :-\
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 20, 2006, 08:20:56 AM
I too give my congratulations to Wooster for a fine season despite the disappointing finish.  I will also concur with my NCAC brethren that the weather played a major role in how the whole regional took shape.  Wooster losing their ace to an overnight rain delay after 4 innings put them in a whole new position that they were unable to overcome.  Simply put, "They lost their mojo , baby"

Not saying that Otterbein & Marietta aren't still playing on Saturday as they are 2 very good teams. But, Spence's sour take on anything Wooster is getting hard to swallow.  Sounds too  much like the football board with the OAC posters constantly trying to beat down any NCAC team that threatens their domain.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 20, 2006, 02:26:44 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 20, 2006, 02:31:36 AM

Wow, color me impressed!!!  I'm sure the 5.2 innings he pitched on Thursday against Wooster had nothing to do with him running out of gas in the 9th after already pitching 3 innings in that game against mighty Marietta?! ::)


Possibly, but we were getting good at-bats before the 9th.

Quote from: ScotsFan on May 20, 2006, 02:31:36 AM

Where in my post did I say that Wooster would hang 10 runs on Sprunger?  All I said was that the Scots already put 4 up against him and had 2 on with only 1 out and were showing no signs of letting up.  Can you deny that fact??


Facts are things that happened. Not things that theoretically were going to happen. You didn't say that Wooster was going to hang 10 or some large number on him but you said "who knows how many more runs" obviously implying it would have been more than a couple.

Quote from: ScotsFan on May 20, 2006, 02:31:36 AM

  I don't recall Manchester making any moves to their bullpen to that point?!  There's no denying Manchester caught a huge break by the game being called at that point in time and if you can't see it, let me know what you are smoking, because I'd like some too.


You make your own breaks. Wooster could have come out and put the game away, and still had Oliver to bring back strong later. That would have been a break.

Quote from: ScotsFan on May 19, 2006, 11:37:26 AM

I know that the Scots have no one to blame but themselves for their poor showing in the Mideast Regional, but I'm putting a large portion of the blame on good ole Mother Nature!


You're saying two different and contradictory things there. First you said the Scots have no one to blame but themselves (correct), and then you put most of the blame on the weather (incorrect). So because weather is not animate, you feel that's an accurate statement? Is that the game you're playing, or are you just being contradictory?

Oh and we've dealt plenty with weather. Something called the OAC tournament when we played 30 innings on Sunday. Never heard anyone blame the weather there.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 20, 2006, 10:11:23 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 20, 2006, 02:26:44 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 19, 2006, 11:37:26 AM

I know that the Scots have no one to blame but themselves for their poor showing in the Mideast Regional, but I'm putting a large portion of the blame on good ole Mother Nature!

You're saying two different and contradictory things there. First you said the Scots have no one to blame but themselves (correct), and then you put most of the blame on the weather (incorrect). So because weather is not animate, you feel that's an accurate statement? Is that the game you're playing, or are you just being contradictory?

If ScotsFan is actually a member of the baseball team, then it could be considered contradictory. However, if he's not a Scot, then the Scots can still have nobody to blame but themselves, while this fan can still partially blame the weather.

You might want to let it go, Spence.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 21, 2006, 03:49:09 PM
I've got nothing to let go of. If he wants to be contradictory and split hairs, whatever.

Why would he say that the Scots have no one to blame but themselves and then himself blame something else?

I don't think anyone has anything to blame anything on. They just weren't good enough.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 21, 2006, 04:58:48 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 21, 2006, 03:49:09 PM
I've got nothing to let go of. If he wants to be contradictory and split hairs, whatever.

I'm not talking about you vs. one individual person.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 21, 2006, 11:39:36 PM
OK I'm confused then because you responded to that post in particular.

Whatever I'm good. I just think it's weak to blame the weather that affected everybody. Win the game and you're in the same situation as Marietta where you throw your ace 5 innings and bring him back on practically full rest.

Of course, that did very little good since we scored him only 1 run.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on July 08, 2006, 10:15:07 AM
Matt Englander from COW is the new CWRU head coach.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on August 13, 2006, 10:23:51 AM
Wooster has lost pitcher Ryan Mullins to DI Winthrop.  According to this morning's Wooster Daily Record, Mullins made the transfer to take advantage of a major that Winthrop offers in Sports Management, plus the fact that he'll receive a partial scholarship.  Mullins spent much of last season at Wooster recovering from an apendectomy, but had a terrific summer pitching in the Great Lakes Collegiate (wooden bat) League for the Columbus All-Americans.

Speaking of that league, Wooster catcher Brandon Boesiger played for the Delaware Cows.  He received only limited playing time, and I don't know why, except that the team had two other catchers.  However, by playoff time, Boesiger was usually on the field.

For the season he went 10-31 for a .323 average, with two doubles and a triple.  As per his custom, he was hit by six pitches giving him an OBP of .512.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on August 17, 2006, 02:52:57 AM
FYI on Mullins and Winthrop. Winthrop coach Joe Hudak is a Malone College grad (1972) from New Castle, PA and has had a number of Ohio, PA and W.Va. players, including Boardman's Matt Repec, who was drafted this year. They're no ordinary program, they were a 2 seed in North Carolina's regional, going 46-18. But it's probably not random that Mullins is going to Winthrop as opposed to some other school.

I've heard rumblings about a transfer or two at Marietta as well, but don't know details. Oh well, it happens. Kids don't make grades, financial aid falls through, transfer...

Both MC and Wooster have gotten what appear to be solid recruits out of the Pittsburgh area this year, and to complete the circle, one of Marietta's is an Air Force brat that lived in South Carolina two years ago!

Do you any of you Woosterians (?) know anything about Erik Mathis or Tyler Kraker? Supposedly both of them are going to Marietta. Wish I was going to be up north for freshman reporting day...always fun to see the new batch throw and run for the first time in "Heaven."
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 02, 2007, 01:06:31 PM
From the no news is weird news department:

The College of Wooster's baseball schedule has still not been posted on their website.  Usually, it's up there around mid-December.  Also, the COW is not among the teams listed in the Ft. Myer's area Gene Cusic Classic, where they have now played during spring break for the last few years.

Anybody have any idea what's up with them?  Are they taking a different tack this season, maybe going to a different locale in Florida or even to another warm weather area?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on January 04, 2007, 11:24:29 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on January 02, 2007, 01:06:31 PM
From the no news is weird news department:

The College of Wooster's baseball schedule has still not been posted on their website.  Usually, it's up there around mid-December.  Also, the COW is not among the teams listed in the Ft. Myer's area Gene Cusic Classic, where they have now played during spring break for the last few years.

Anybody have any idea what's up with them?  Are they taking a different tack this season, maybe going to a different locale in Florida or even to another warm weather area?
I noticed that as well WB.  I did notice that there was a link posted for a preseason poll.  You can check it out here:

Collegiate Baseball Newspaper's NCAA Div. III Pre-Season Poll  (http://www.baseballnews.com/polls/divIII/currentpolldiviii.htm). 

Wooster is checking in at #13.  Other notables and I'm sure that spence will find reason to bitch about it are Ott getting the bullseye as the preseason #1 and the defending champs, 'Etta checking in at #7.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Morgan on January 04, 2007, 06:09:05 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on January 04, 2007, 11:24:29 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on January 02, 2007, 01:06:31 PM
From the no news is weird news department:

The College of Wooster's baseball schedule has still not been posted on their website.  Usually, it's up there around mid-December.  Also, the COW is not among the teams listed in the Ft. Myer's area Gene Cusic Classic, where they have now played during spring break for the last few years.

Anybody have any idea what's up with them?  Are they taking a different tack this season, maybe going to a different locale in Florida or even to another warm weather area?
I noticed that as well WB.  I did notice that there was a link posted for a preseason poll.  You can check it out here:

Collegiate Baseball Newspaper's NCAA Div. III Pre-Season Poll  (http://www.baseballnews.com/polls/divIII/currentpolldiviii.htm). 

Wooster is checking in at #13.  Other notables and I'm sure that spence will find reason to bitch about it are Ott getting the bullseye as the preseason #1 and the defending champs, 'Etta checking in at #7.

Boy, listening to Spence complain about the lack of respect for Marietta would make me feel that baseball season as back.

Big Poppa had a great quote about Spence in another thread about him only seeing the world through Marietta's glasses. I was surprised to learn that BigPoppa did not take a college job this off-season and took a high school job instead. Must have been some deal as many of college jobs in the Midwest opened last year and he told me that he did not apply for any of them.

Is D3hoops.com going to do a pre-season poll like they do for hoops?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 04, 2007, 06:41:14 PM
The good news is that Pat Coleman has turned the dogs loose again, and Jim Dixon and I are trying to put something together in advance of the baseball season, maybe February 1st.

Please view our efforts as a work-in-progress from D3 baseball fans who will always accept hyperlinks, news tips, informative posts and constructive criticism.  We seem to be building this from scratch on a successful platform that is d3hoops.com and d3football.com.

I am extremely grateful for the plethora of information and the numerous contacts that Jim Dixon brings to this endeavor. :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: MCSpartan on January 05, 2007, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on January 02, 2007, 01:06:31 PM
From the no news is weird news department:

The College of Wooster's baseball schedule has still not been posted on their website.  Usually, it's up there around mid-December.  Also, the COW is not among the teams listed in the Ft. Myer's area Gene Cusic Classic, where they have now played during spring break for the last few years.

Anybody have any idea what's up with them?  Are they taking a different tack this season, maybe going to a different locale in Florida or even to another warm weather area?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: MCSpartan on January 05, 2007, 07:29:08 PM
I am not sure where wooster is playing for spring break.  But I have heard from an assistant coach from the HCAC that went to Manchester with me that the spartans have a tough spring break schedule.  They will be playing Wooster, Ott, and Wis- Stevens Pointe.  But I am not sure if that is a fact, but if it is with those teams there some good games may come from it. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on January 06, 2007, 12:23:42 PM
It looks like you received good information... Wooster is listed as an opponent on Wisconsin - Steves Pointe's 2007 schedule.  The location is Port Charlotte... so it must be the Russ Matt tournament there.

http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/schedule.htm

A lot of schools are starting to post the spring trip games on their web sites...
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 09, 2007, 10:57:02 AM
Bob -

You're correct, it appears that Wooster is playing in that Russ Matt Tournament in Port Charlotte.  The Rowan University baseball schedule lists Wooster as an opponent on March 14th.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 09, 2007, 01:40:29 PM
Is Otterbein going to be the real deal? I guess I am not a believer in them yet. Who do they play down south this year?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on January 10, 2007, 02:54:48 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 09, 2007, 01:40:29 PM
Is Otterbein going to be the real deal? I guess I am not a believer in them yet. Who do they play down south this year?

Otterbein has ther complete team back and last year nearly made the Championship round.  I expect god things to come the Cardinal's way.  The rest of the  prenial contenders have big shoes to fill which leads me (and others) to think Otterbein is the "real deal"
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 10, 2007, 10:24:11 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on January 10, 2007, 02:54:48 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 09, 2007, 01:40:29 PM
Is Otterbein going to be the real deal? I guess I am not a believer in them yet. Who do they play down south this year?

Otterbein has ther complete team back and last year nearly made the Championship round.  I expect god things to come the Cardinal's way.  The rest of the  prenial contenders have big shoes to fill which leads me (and others) to think Otterbein is the "real deal"

Jim- Sounds like you know them well. I will trust you on that one.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 11, 2007, 10:25:13 AM
Here is the 2007 College of Wooster Baseball Schedule.  They have, indeed, moved to Port Charlotte from Ft. Myers, for their Florida trip.  This year, they'll play their Allegheny league games in Florida instead of those against Oberlin as they've done for at least the last two years. 

Only 7 home dates for a total of 10 games.  A 3-game home series against Wabash, the first time I can remember Wooster hosting them.  A road game against D1 Kent State.  The NCAC tournament at Denision (lights added to their field last season) instead of Wittenberg.

March 11 vs. Anderson^ (2) 12:30
March 12 vs. Greenville^ (2) 12:30
March 14 vs. Rowan^ 4:30
March 15 vs. Transylvania^ 3:00
March 16 vs. Ohio Wesleyan^ 9:00
March 17 vs. Wis.-Stevens Point^ 3:00
March 19 vs. Clarkson (N.Y.)^ 11:30
March 20 vs. Manchester^ 10:30
March 21 vs. Messiah^ 9:30
March 23 vs. Allegheny^* (2) 12:30
March 24 vs. Allegheny^* (2) 9:30
March 29 at Baldwin-Wallace 3:30
March 31 at Kenyon* (2) 1:00
April 1 at Kenyon* (2) 1:00
April 4 MARIETTA 4:00
April 6 OBERLIN* (2) 1:00
April 7 OBERLIN* (2) 1:00
April 11 at Kent State 3:00
April 12 at Otterbein 4:00
April 14 WABASH (2) 1:00
April 15 WABASH Noon
April 18 MUSKINGUM 4:00
April 19 at Heidelberg 4:00
April 21 at Hiram* (2) 1:00
April 22 at Hiram* (2) 1:00
April 24 OTTERBEIN 4:00
April 25 at Denison 7:00
May 1 at Ohio Northern 4:00
May 2 at John Carroll 4:00
May 5-6 NCAC Tournament Semifinal Series TBD
May 10-11 NCAC Tournament Championship Series (at Granville, Ohio) TBD
May 16-20 NCAA Div. III Mideast Regional Tournament TBD

(2) indicates doubleheader
^ indicates games at Port Charlotte, Fla.
CAPS indicate home games at Art Murray Field
* indicates North Coast Athletic Conference East Division games

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on January 29, 2007, 05:08:38 PM
I believe Wabash officially kicked off the spring season with the first practice of the year today.  We're hovering around 10°F here in central Indiana today...couldn't ask for a better day to kick off baseball season.   ::)

BTW, Wabash will repeat their "cactus league" opening trip this year at the Greater Phoenix Invitational down in AZ.  Wabash's first game is against Wartburg on 3/4. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Morgan on January 30, 2007, 02:56:41 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 09, 2007, 01:40:29 PM
Is Otterbein going to be the real deal? I guess I am not a believer in them yet. Who do they play down south this year?

OVER RATED!!!!! OVER RATED!!! OVER RATED!!!


Big Poppa- I have a feeling that they are ranked a bit high. Certainly a top 30 team, but not #1.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 30, 2007, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: Captain Morgan on January 30, 2007, 02:56:41 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 09, 2007, 01:40:29 PM
Is Otterbein going to be the real deal? I guess I am not a believer in them yet. Who do they play down south this year?

OVER RATED!!!!! OVER RATED!!! OVER RATED!!!


Big Poppa- I have a feeling that they are ranked a bit high. Certainly a top 30 team, but not #1.

We will know in a few weeks when everyone kicks off, huh? I always find it hard to bet against Marrietta in that region.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on January 30, 2007, 05:04:26 PM
Otterbein and Marietta are OAC teams, right?  If not, our conference just got a whole lot more difficult.   ;D
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on February 15, 2007, 12:17:49 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 29, 2007, 05:08:38 PM
I believe Wabash officially kicked off the spring season with the first practice of the year today.  We're hovering around 10°F here in central Indiana today...couldn't ask for a better day to kick off baseball season.   ::)

BTW, Wabash will repeat their "cactus league" opening trip this year at the Greater Phoenix Invitational down in AZ.  Wabash's first game is against Wartburg on 3/4. 

It would be nice to have that info available, oh, maybe on the website.

In the absence of Wabash baseball I'll have to settle for Div-I games this weekend, despite the cold (for Texas) weather.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on February 15, 2007, 02:59:52 PM
[quote author=Li'l Giant
It would be nice to have that info available, oh, maybe on the website.

You can keep up with all of the diamond news on the Wabash Baseball Blog - "On Deck Circle"
Coach Stevens has done a great job at keeping fans, parents, alumni and recruits informed about what's going on this off-season and into the pre-season.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on February 15, 2007, 08:47:22 PM
Thanks, 6-4-3, I'll check it out.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: WoosterFAN on February 20, 2007, 03:53:45 PM
I am not sure how long the roster has been out on the Wooster Website. 
Here are some notes, just at first glance:

- Wooster has really been hitting Pittsburgh area hard.  Three kids out of Steeler country coming to COW were all-Section by the Post-Gazette voted by area coaches:

P/IF Matt Barnes City League
IF Justin Thomas Class AA
1b Frankie Quirin Class AAAA

And I count 9 nine Freshman pitchers to add to the staff that lost 3 or 4 seniors.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: JK on March 02, 2007, 08:25:12 AM
Six Killed in Bluffton baseball bus crash... this is just awful.   Our thoughts and prayers to all in the Bluffton Family:

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6522208
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 03, 2007, 10:48:06 AM
Wabash website announces that the baseball games in Phoenix this week will be broadcast by Teamline, with video feed for selected games.  Also live game stats provided on the baseball website.   Nice!
Still have snow covering my front yard here in Denver ... but I can practically smell the freshly cut infield grass down south.

Here's the link for Teamline:
http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=4443
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on March 03, 2007, 07:49:50 PM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on March 03, 2007, 10:48:06 AMWabash website announces that the baseball games in Phoenix this week will be broadcast by Teamline, with video feed for selected games.  Also live game stats provided on the baseball website.   Nice!
Still have snow covering my front yard here in Denver ... but I can practically smell the freshly cut infield grass down south.

Here's the link for Teamline:
http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=4443

I had a hard time turning the truck west back to Texas instead of heading to Phoenix after my week in Albuquerque this week. One of these days I'll take some vacation (ha, yeah right) and go see some spring baseball.

At least I'll be able to hear the games, though. I'm ready for some Wabash baseball.

Wabash always fights!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on March 06, 2007, 12:58:44 AM
Baseball season is upon us! 

Wabash dropped their first two games of the Arizona trip to Wartburg by scores that I care not to mention on Sunday but bounced back with a sweep over Lebanon Valley in today's action.  Wabash got complete games from Joey Neizer (who was recently mentioned in an ESPN.com article I saw about the mysterious "gyroball") and TJ Siple.  Wabash needed the complete games as the Little Giant bullpen got a workout on Sunday.  Congrats to Coach Stevens on his first wins as head coach at Wabash.

Wabash (2-2) is back in action with a doubleheader against Rochester Institute of Technology Tuesday morning. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 10, 2007, 08:36:27 AM
I know that Wooster is still alive in the hoops tournament, but baseball starts tomorrow for the Scots down in  sunny FLA with a double header vs. Anderson!

Here's a preview article on Wooster from the Daily Mistake for anyone interested:

'Scots ready to answer questions' (http://www.the-daily-record.com/news/article/1700441)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 11, 2007, 12:53:27 PM
Wooster's doubleheader against Anderson is being netcast through the Anderson website.  Wooster leads 1-0 in the second, senior catcher Brandon Boesiger having hit the first pitch of the season over the wall for a homerun!

Now, these wonderul announcers, an inning later, reveal that it was Jake Sankal who hit the first-inning homer.  Amazing.  They can't pronounce the name of the school, the names of the players, the names of towns.  Worst I've heard all year.  ;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 12, 2007, 08:10:34 AM
Wooster won their opener over Anderson yesterday 7-5.  I couldn't find any results for the 2nd game of the DH.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 12, 2007, 08:55:38 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 12, 2007, 08:10:34 AM
Wooster won their opener over Anderson yesterday 7-5.  I couldn't find any results for the 2nd game of the DH.

They were winning around 6 or 7 to nothing in about the 4th inning when I turned it off.  Trappazano was on the mound and had already struck out about 8 or 9, including the side in the last inning that I listened to.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 12, 2007, 08:59:03 AM
Was that supposed to be a DH yesterday?  I know it's listed as a DH on Wooster's schedule, but it doesn't appear to be listed that way on Anderson's schedule.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 12, 2007, 02:17:22 PM
It definitely was a DH.  I listened to almost all of the first game, including the finish, and about the first four innings of the second game.

Another DH today, happening as I type, unless rain or invading soccer players intervened.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 13, 2007, 08:50:24 AM
Wooster ended up sweeping Anderson winning the nightcap 9-0! :)

Haven't seen any results on yesterdays DH with Greenville.

Today, they take on #24 Rowan for two.  This is a series that has been budding into somewhat of a rivalry over the past few seasons.  They meet each year down in FLA and when the Scots made their trip to the DIII World Series a couple of years back, guess who was there?  Rowan.   
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 13, 2007, 09:17:06 AM
Are the games being broadcasted through the link at the Scots site? I remember listening last spring, but I do not recall if that is where I was getting the feed. Good start for the Scots.

Thanks
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 13, 2007, 10:52:53 AM
Wooster's site is updated, but without box scores.

Defeated Anderson 7-5 (9 innings and 9-0
Defeated Greenville 13-5, 10-2
Overall Record 4-0
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 13, 2007, 12:09:52 PM
Good start for the Scots.  It hasn't taken them long to find their bats as they are scoring 9.75 rpg in their 1st 4 contests!  Their preview said that they weren't worried about scoring runs (and is that ever really a concern at Wooster?).  It was the pitching that was going to be in question for the Scots this season.

I'm looking for Rowan to give them a more formidable challenge tomorrow!

Quote from: countyroad on March 13, 2007, 09:17:06 AM
Are the games being broadcasted through the link at the Scots site? I remember listening last spring, but I do not recall if that is where I was getting the feed. 

Thanks
I don't know if all the games are being broadcast from down in FLA, but I did see where tomorrow's game against Rowan at 4:30 will be broadcast over the net on WQKT.  Here is the link:

Wooster vs. Rowan Broadcast (http://wqkt.com/skeleton.php?sports=true)

If I notice any more games scheduled to be broadcast, I'll post the links on here.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 13, 2007, 09:08:13 PM
Wabash goes 3-6-1 in Phoenix.  Played some very close games the second half of the week that hopefully will benefit this young squad.  Still (same story past few years) not getting the timely hit and making the costly error when the game is on the line and thus the losing record.

A chance to get things right tomorrow.  Scheduled at DePauw for a single 9 inning game.  Time to break the 7 year losing streak to the long-time rival.
How's the weather look in Hoosierland?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 15, 2007, 01:51:37 AM
Wooster defeated Rowan 7-5.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 15, 2007, 08:56:47 AM
Quote from: countyroad on March 15, 2007, 01:51:37 AM
Wooster defeated Rowan 7-5.
Wooster actually trailed 5-1 in this contest and 5-2 in the 8th when they rallied to plate 4 runs (3 with 3 outs) to take the lead!  Wooster's John Quimby added a monster HR in the 9th for insurance!  Freshman Matt Barnes threw 2 innings of scoreless relief to gain his 2nd win on the young season.  He started and threw 4 scoreless innings in a win over Greenville on Monday.    Wooster is now 5-0 on their spring trip. 

Next up is Transylvania this afternoon at 3:00.  The Pios could be another good test as they are off to an 8-2 start so it should be a good game!  No radio link that I could find either.  It looks as though that Rowan game is the only one that will be broadcast from down in Port Charlotte.  I don't really understand why WQKT would send a crew down to FLA just to broadcast one game?  Oh well...
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 15, 2007, 11:22:01 AM
I see Transy is off to a good start under an interim coach. They're 8-2.
Transy baseball (http://www.transy.edu/sec_page.asp-content-athletics/baseball/07schedule.htm-folder-men-sub-baseball-topic-baseball)*

Not sure on the quality of teams they've played.

I'd like to see Wooster's defense improve. I know they're probably moving some guys around, but they've had too many errors.

Keep winning.

(*Moderator's note:  The URL has been edited for brevity.  Thanks for posting and welcome, county road--RT.  For those of you who are new to the boards, we have set up the posting sections by the Evaluation Regions.)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 15, 2007, 03:34:41 PM
I saw a plea on one of the other boards to keep posting about your team even if they are not winning in order to keep some balance to the board.

Well as painful as it is to say.... Wabash blows a 7-0 lead and falls to DePauw 8-7.  This is the 3rd loss already this season where the LG's have lost in the final at bat.
Wabash record falls to 3-7-1.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 16, 2007, 12:36:38 AM
Bash,

Definitely keep us posted on the goings of Wabash.  That sucks to lose to DePauw like that!

Wooster goes to 6-0 today downing Transy 7-2.  No box score available so I can't say who picked up the win, but I'm guessing it was Trappuzzano.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 17, 2007, 08:53:43 AM
Wooster stays perfect on their spring break trip defeating OWU 10-1!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 18, 2007, 03:17:44 PM
Wooster continues to have a very impressive trip to FLA remaining undefeated with an 8-7 win over preseason  #5 UWSP in 11 innings!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 18, 2007, 04:03:59 PM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on March 15, 2007, 03:34:41 PM
I saw a plea on one of the other boards to keep posting about your team even if they are not winning in order to keep some balance to the board.

Well as painful as it is to say.... Wabash blows a 7-0 lead and falls to DePauw 8-7.  This is the 3rd loss already this season where the LG's have lost in the final at bat.
Wabash record falls to 3-7-1.
+1 Bash 6-4-3,

As tough as that may have been, your valuable service is still appreciated.  To acknowledge that Wabash was not the winner of that game is difficult.

(Is there a ceremonial Monon Resin Bag?   ;D :D ;D )
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on March 18, 2007, 08:28:18 PM
Wabash dropped 2 of 3 games this weekend. They lost to Tri-State 8-6 early Saturday, then beat UW-Platteville 4-3 in the nightcap.

On Sunday, a 9th inning comeback came up short against Platteville and Wabash fell 7-6.

The LGs are 4-9-1 on the season and play Anderson next on Tuesday.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bufordscot on March 19, 2007, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 15, 2007, 08:56:47 AM
Quote from: countyroad on March 15, 2007, 01:51:37 AM
Wooster defeated Rowan 7-5.
Wooster actually trailed 5-1 in this contest and 5-2 in the 8th when they rallied to plate 4 runs (3 with 3 outs) to take the lead!  Wooster's John Quimby added a monster HR in the 9th for insurance!  Freshman Matt Barnes threw 2 innings of scoreless relief to gain his 2nd win on the young season.  He started and threw 4 scoreless innings in a win over Greenville on Monday.    Wooster is now 5-0 on their spring trip. 

Next up is Transylvania this afternoon at 3:00.  The Pios could be another good test as they are off to an 8-2 start so it should be a good game!  No radio link that I could find either.  It looks as though that Rowan game is the only one that will be broadcast from down in Port Charlotte.  I don't really understand why WQKT would send a crew down to FLA just to broadcast one game?  Oh well...

3 runs with 3 outs, that's impressive ;D.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Rhett on March 22, 2007, 03:57:55 AM
Any word on why Case @ Denison was cancelled yesterday?  Was it weather?

Is it totally cancelled, or will they make it up?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 22, 2007, 09:51:07 AM
Wooster extended its record to 11-0 yesterday with a 5-4 win over Messiah in 11 innings.  A day off today is followed by back-to-back league doubleheaders against NCAC eastern division foe Allegheny.  These four contests, which would have been home games for the Scots, are the team's final games in Port Charlotte.

Some boxscores are up on the Scots website, but some are still missing, and the cumulative stats which had been there earlier are now gone.  Still, it seems from the game scores that Wooster is getting some very nice production from their freshmen pitchers, which is very important for their continued success this season. 

The Scots are only allowing 3.24 runs per 9 innings.  If even only 6 of the 30 runs that the team has surrendered are unearned that would put Wooster's ERA under 3.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 22, 2007, 10:30:43 AM
The conference games get under way this weekend.  Besides the Wooster-Allegheny matchup in FL, Wabash travels to Denison in a ket NCAC West contest.  Denison and OWU have given the Little Giants fits in the past.  A good showing here for Wabash would really set things up to be interesting the rest of the season.

In a mid-week tuneup, Wabash improves to 5-9-1 with an extra inning 8-7 win against Anderson.  Another game settled in the last at bat for the LG's, something that occurs almost on a daily basis this season.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 22, 2007, 10:35:08 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 22, 2007, 09:51:07 AM
Wooster extended its record to 11-0 yesterday with a 5-4 win over Messiah in 11 innings. 

This also matches Wooster's best start since 1995! :o  That's pretty impressive considering the fact that Wooster has fielded some pretty darn good teams since '95.

Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 22, 2007, 09:51:07 AM
The Scots are only allowing 3.24 runs per 9 innings.  If even only 6 of the 30 runs that the team has surrendered are unearned that would put Wooster's ERA under 3.

I'm guessing that would be a low estimate of unearned runs.  Fielding has been  a real sore spot for Wooster for some time now.  For as good as their hitting and pitching has been in recent years, their fielding has gone downhill over the past couple of seasons and doesn't seem to be getting better so far this season.  It's funny that in the season previews that the questions seemed to be surrounding pitching.  Maybe those questions should have been surrounding fielding??  ???
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 22, 2007, 10:37:45 AM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on March 22, 2007, 10:30:43 AM
Another game settled in the last at bat for the LG's, something that occurs almost on a daily basis this season.
This Wabash team might just take over the knickname 'cardiac kids' as they seem to be giving their supporters heartstoppers in each and every game, whether they win or lose. ;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 23, 2007, 09:02:15 AM
Wooster's fielding has been bad for a few seasons now.  Their baserunning was not that best last year either.


Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 23, 2007, 09:11:47 AM
Wooster not only brings a record of 11-0 into today's doubleheader against Allegheny, but the Gators will enter the contests still winless on the season at 0-6.  It's unlikely that this confluence of disparate records has ever happened before when these two teams have taken the field.

Wooster's ERA is 2.13, certainly the lowest that I can remember the Scots posting at this stage of the season.  Freshman Mark Miller has thrown 13 scoreless innings to lead the team.

Offensively, despite regulars Shaun Swearingen, Brandon Boesiger, and John Quimby getting off to slow starts, the team is hitting .342 and slugging .530.  A surprise leader in the HBP category, formerly dominated by Boesiger, is first baseman Sheldon Steiner with 6.  Freshman Justin Thomas is at .350 with 3 doubles and 2 homers in only 20 at bats.

Defensively, the Scots are not terrible, coming in at a team .958.  Shortstop Quimby and third baseman Skulina, however, are both under .900 and need to improve.  So do the Scot pitchers, who have combined for 6 of the team's 18 errors, Adam Samson contributing 3 of these.

Let's take two today, then two more tomorrow, then come home!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on March 23, 2007, 09:24:31 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 23, 2007, 09:11:47 AM
A surprise leader in the HBP category, formerly dominated by Boesiger, is first baseman Sheldon Steiner with 6.  

I don't remember the numbers, but doesn't Boesinger have a chance to break the NCAA career record for HBP this year?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 23, 2007, 09:37:31 AM
Yep.  Boesiger has 61 HBP coming into this season.  I can't find the website that had the records listed but the Scot media guide says that he needs just 14 HBP this season to break the NCAA record. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 23, 2007, 03:57:42 PM
Keving Sangiolo- 75 HBP in 163 games at Blackburn from 01-04.

Huge File below.

http://www.ncaa.org/library/records/baseball/baseball_records_book/2007/2007_baseball_records.pdf
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 23, 2007, 05:04:45 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 22, 2007, 09:51:07 AM
The Scots are only allowing 3.24 runs per 9 innings.  If even only 6 of the 30 runs that the team has surrendered are unearned that would put Wooster's ERA under 3.

No guessing need:

Player                 ERA   W-L   APP  GS  CG SHO/CBO SV     IP     H   R   ER   BB  SO   B/Avg
Wooster Team.  2.13  11-0    11   11    0      1/1        1   97.0  77  36  23  35 107    .213 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ibt100 on March 23, 2007, 08:14:40 PM
They are playing .good baseball.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 23, 2007, 10:44:51 PM
Wooster swept the first doubleheader from Allegheny by scores of 7-2 and 12-4 to go to 13-0 on the year.  Adam Samson went the distance in game one while Matt DeGrand and John Warren shared the duty in the second, DeGrand picking up the victory, at least according to the Allegheny website.  DeGrand went 4 2/3 innings.  Is that enough to get the win in a seven-inning game?

Wooster hit 6 homeruns on the day.  However, their pitchers also hit 4 guys, continueing a new trend this season.  Wooster pitchers have now hit 19 opponents in 13 games.  Not that I have anything against Allegheny players getting plunked, but let's make sure it happens after the game is well-decided. :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 24, 2007, 04:29:18 PM
Wooster takes the second DH from Allegheny, 9-5 and 5-0.  The Scots open at 15-0 while Allegheny drops to 0-10.  Who'da thunk it?  :o
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 24, 2007, 08:26:49 PM
Not sure the NCAC's ever been worse. The NCAC East is an abject joke apart from Wooster. Not their fault necessarily and doesn't take anything away from them, but I'm just stating the fact. Allegheny used to be a regional-quality team and the NCAC had some good teams at the top (though the bottom's always been bad). Now Wesleyan's down a peg, Denison's down, Allegheny's way down.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 25, 2007, 07:24:46 AM
Yes you're right.  It's not looking very competitive. It's a good thing that Wooster has scheduled some tough out of conference games. Otterbein twice, Marietta, Kent State, and Muskingum.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 25, 2007, 07:36:56 AM
Yeah. I'm still not sold on Muskingum (their schedule so far leaves a lot to be desired) but it'll come out in the wash soon enough. Seems Wooster did about as well as can be expected on scheduling regional opponents outside the conference.

Is the Wabash series mandated by the NCAC somehow? I notice that's the only 3 game series they play against a Western opponent.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 25, 2007, 11:46:18 AM
Muskingum did beat Wooster last season, so they can play them tough.  Their spring opponents were not top tier by any means.  They still have won 13 in a row.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 25, 2007, 02:58:28 PM
Over the last few seasons Wooster has generally played some games against one or two western division NCAC opponents.  Looking back at the results, it's hard to divulge a pattern to this (although they are mixing them up), especially since I believe some of the originally scheduled games ended up as casualties of inclement weather.  Which leads me to believe that it's not mandated by the NCAC but Wooster's choice to do this.  Just an educated guess, though.  And I believe that this is the first time Wabash has been on the schedule in a while.

While Wooster's Florida opponents turned out not to be top tier, it seems as if an effort in that direction was made during scheduling.  There are some good programs in there going through down pereiods.  I have no idea what happened to the Gators, who just a few years ago were nearly the equal of the Scots and very dangerous.  Now, they're playing as if they're nearly extinct.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 25, 2007, 08:13:31 PM
Fair enough.

Allegheny's been on a pretty steady decline since coach Creehan stepped down several years ago. They really weren't very good the last couple years, but this year the bottom's fallen out.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 25, 2007, 11:42:05 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 25, 2007, 11:46:18 AM
Muskingum did beat Wooster last season, so they can play them tough.  Their spring opponents were not top tier by any means.  They still have won 13 in a row.
Muskingum lost twice to Wooster last season.  The Scots played them at Wooster and won 16-1 and then the Scots beat the Muskies at Muskingum 6-2 in the regular season finale.

Yes, Wooster's spring opponents weren't top tier by any means, but they did include 3 teams ranked in the preseason poll.  And, they have won 15 in a row which is never an easy task no matter how weak the competition may be.  They have eclipsed their previous best start in school history by 4 games now!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 26, 2007, 10:10:48 AM
Wow, I am confused with the 2005 season.  Man I'm getting old.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 26, 2007, 11:37:48 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 25, 2007, 11:42:05 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 25, 2007, 11:46:18 AM
Muskingum did beat Wooster last season, so they can play them tough.  Their spring opponents were not top tier by any means.  They still have won 13 in a row.
Muskingum lost twice to Wooster last season.  The Scots played them at Wooster and won 16-1 and then the Scots beat the Muskies at Muskingum 6-2 in the regular season finale.

Yes, Wooster's spring opponents weren't top tier by any means, but they did include 3 teams ranked in the preseason poll.  And, they have won 15 in a row which is never an easy task no matter how weak the competition may be.  They have eclipsed their previous best start in school history by 4 games now!

No doubt...it's unfortunate that Rowan and Manchester haven't been up to their recent standard, at least so far. I'm not sure that we'll ever really have a fix on how good a tournament team Wooster might be until the tournament, at least pitching-wise, because their top pitchers will be throwing against their divisional opponents and I don't really seen any of those being much of a challenge.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 26, 2007, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 26, 2007, 11:37:48 AM
because their top pitchers will be throwing against their divisional opponents and I don't really seen any of those being much of a challenge.

March 29 at Baldwin-Wallace 3:30
March 31 at Kenyon* (2) 1:00
April 1 at Kenyon* (2) 1:00
April 4 MARIETTA 4:00
April 6 OBERLIN* (2) 1:00
April 7 OBERLIN* (2) 1:00
April 11 at Kent State 3:00
April 12 at Otterbein 4:00
April 14 WABASH (2) 1:00
April 15 WABASH Noon
April 18 MUSKINGUM 4:00
April 19 at Heidelberg 4:00
April 21 at Hiram* (2) 1:00
April 22 at Hiram* (2) 1:00
April 24 OTTERBEIN 4:00
April 25 at Denison 7:00
May 1 at Ohio Northern 4:00
May 2 at John Carroll 4:00

I've been wondering how this will play out.  For instance, the game against Marietta sits in a soft spot between weak league foes Kenyon and Oberlin.  If the Kenyon series goes well and the staff is not pushed, some of the front-line pitching may get to work short innings against Marietta, especially with only Oberlin on the horizon.

Then there's a big gap of non-league games, if you include Wabash as such since they're western division.  Wooster should be able to use the top of their staff on the road against Kent State and Otterbein.  I'm hoping that they do, just to see how they stand up.  The second time around against Otterbein, at Wooster, might be a different story, coming on the heels of the four-game series at Hiram.

The other thing to consider is that the roles on the Wooster staff, outside of Samson and Trapazzano, are probably not yet set in stone.  Barnes and DeGrand have been the 3 and 4 starters so far, and have done very well, but I'd be surprised if Mark Miller, who's allowed only 2 hits in 14 relief innings, isn't given a chance to open a ballgame.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 26, 2007, 07:46:05 PM
I thought about that too actually but I wasn't about to give anyone any help on the idea!

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 27, 2007, 10:05:45 AM
Wooster is the new #1 team in the land for this weeks poll!  They jump from 15 to 1 in just one poll cycle.  As I said on the D3 Baseball Polls board, I am a bit shocked to see Wooster jump all the way to #1 even with their great start. 

Also of note, Marietta dropped down to #25 which is a bit unfair also IMO.  I still feel that they are a legit top 10 team by far and I definately don't see a team like Transy as being ranked ahead of them.  And Ott went from preseason #1 to out of the top 25 in one poll cycle.  The Cards were definitely a bit overrated, but to drop them completely out of the top 25 is a bit much.

Here's the link to the poll:

D3 Baseball Poll for March 26, 2007 (http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll.html)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 27, 2007, 02:21:34 PM
Congratulations to the Wooster Scots on their great start and recognition in the latest poll.  We all know it's early and a lot of baseball to be played, but the recognition is still a plus for this conference.

In the NCAC West Denison sweeps Wabash 4-0 over the weekend.  My feeling is that Denison probably isn't that far down from the last few years.  Their spring trip record was unimpressive but the schedule was pretty competitive.  Coach Craddock is very respected and has done a wail of a job with that program.  I look to see the Big Red right there to the end in conference play.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 29, 2007, 07:37:59 PM
Any news on whether or not the Scots were able to continue their win streak in their home opener today?  I'm down in David Collinge's old neck of the woods in Baton Rouge for the week visiting family and friends.  I'm making my first trip to New Orleans tomorrow!  Won't be able to take in all that New Orleans has to offer with twin 3 year olds and a 20 month old in tow, but I'll make the best of it! 8)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 29, 2007, 07:42:25 PM
Heck they might still be playing.

It was 18-12 Wooster after 7, and a scant 3 and a half hours after the start.

Sunset is about a quarter till, so they may not have gotten 9 in.

Ugly performance from both teams it sounded like.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 29, 2007, 08:17:54 PM
Both websites have the final score up as 18-12.  I was up there at BW and lasted through 4 1/2 innings of little league level baseball in cold and windy weather.  It was probably ten degrees lower than here in balmy Wooster.

Wooster scored twice (I think) in the top of the first but then proceeded to make three errors in the bottom of the inning.  Quimby dropped the first batter's ground ball, picked it up in plenty of time, then dropped it again.  When that guy decided to steal second, nobody covered and Boesiger's throw went into center field.  The center fielder let it get away from him and the runner took third (error number two, and the second hitter is still at the plate). 

I don't remember the next sequence of events, but the Wooster first baseman, Steiner, booted an easy grounder sometime in that same inning.  He made another error in the second or third, dropping an easy throw from Bubba O'Donnell at second. In the bottom of the fourth, the left fielder Sankal charged and ran by a single allowing three runs to score.  Five errors in the four innings that I saw Wooster in the field.  Not to mention a few wild pitches.

They pounded the ball and scored a lot of runs but if they want to make a run deep into the tournament they really need to focus on the other half of the game.  It's become a major problem in the last few years and won't go away without some serious work.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 29, 2007, 09:47:51 PM
Thanks for the update WB.  I totally agree on your assessment about the Scots' fielding woes.  Of the 12 runs allowed by Wooster today, only 7 were earned!  I just don't get why Wooster can't figure out how to field a little better!  It's almost like they have the attitude that they will just outmash the opponent.  That's all well and good for getting through the regular season with a sparkling record and winning NCAC titles, but when it comes to tournament time, it will bite them in the arse like it has year in and year out.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Gimme on March 29, 2007, 10:25:42 PM
They will field, Wooster always plays great baseball.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 29, 2007, 10:57:19 PM
Wooster made a ridiculous 9 errors in this ballgame.  Poor Jeff Kaatz worked the 7th inning for the Scots and had this happen to him:

C. Kidd struck out, reached first on a passed ball.

N. Luken struck out, reached first on a passed ball; C. Kidd advanced to second.

R. Kreisher reached on an error by lf; N. Luken advanced to second; C. Kidd
advanced to third.

M. Bolte walked, RBI; R. Kreisher advanced to second; N.
Luken advanced to third; C. Kidd scored, unearned.

M. Brisky reached on a fielding error by 3b, advanced to second on a throwing error by 3b; M. Bolte
advanced to third; R. Kreisher scored, unearned; N. Luken scored, unearned.

S. Slater struck out, out at first c to 1b; M. Bolte scored, unearned.

B. Storesina struck out.

G. Breedlove grounded out to ss.

4 runs, 0 hits, 3 errors, 1 LOB.


There's really not much else to be said beyond that.

Except this.  Talk about restoring order in a mayhem-filled game.  Freshman pitcher Mark Miller worked the 8th and 9th and set down 6 in a row.  He struck out 3 and managed to even resurrect the defense during his tenure as no errors were made.  Miller has now worked 16 innings and allowed only 2 hits this season.  20 K's.  ERA of zero.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 29, 2007, 11:20:05 PM
Both teams went scoreless in the last two frames...my question is how much of it was pitching and how much of it was that baseball is hard to play in the dark.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: daoustian on March 30, 2007, 03:59:18 PM
Wooster Booster -- unrelated note, but check this out and let me know what you think:
http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4491.4050
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 30, 2007, 08:30:33 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 29, 2007, 10:57:19 PM

Except this.  Talk about restoring order in a mayhem-filled game.  Freshman pitcher Mark Miller worked the 8th and 9th and set down 6 in a row.  He struck out 3 and managed to even resurrect the defense during his tenure as no errors were made.  Miller has now worked 16 innings and allowed only 2 hits this season.  20 K's.  ERA of zero.


I thought the same thing when I saw the box score and then I saw Coach Pettorini's quote in the Daily Record about Miller's outing:

Quote"We're going to wing it pretty well," Pettorini said. "What we've tried to focus on is the idea of playing defense and pitching well and we didn't do either of those things well tonight. Mark Miller did a nice job finishing it out tonight, but not even he was close to what he was in Florida."

No hits, 3 strikeouts and 3 groundouts to the 1st baseman and that wasn't close to what he was in Florida?  I guess he should have not let the B-W hitters even make contact.  Especially given Wooster's defensive struggles yesterday?! ::)  ;)  :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 31, 2007, 08:33:09 PM
The game against Kenyon was kind of interesting...6 hit batters in one inning? This is your top two teams in the NCAC East...ridiculous.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 31, 2007, 09:43:35 PM
The top of the 7th was bizarre.  Up until that point, Kenyon's starting pitcher, Shelley, actually had not pitched a bad ballgame.  His team trailed only 5-3.  Then all heck broke loose. 

Shelley had a nice off-speed breaking ball, but suddenly in the rain he just kept leaving it inside.  Way inside.  I think all 5 of the Wooster guys that he hit took it in the back.  The Kenyon coach finally had mercy on him and took him out but the next guy, Kerr, hit another Wooster batter to break the DIII record.  Pretty amazing.

Wooster, though, came back from their defensive debacle at BW to play error-free baseball.  They hit the ball well, and with any luck would have had more then the 5 runs that they scored through the first 6 innings.

Wooster's Pat Christianson provided the moment of the day when he broke out of the dugout to take the field after a Scot had been retired.  Quickly he realized that was only the second out, but not before a few alert eyes behind the fence had caught him make his move.  :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 31, 2007, 11:33:40 PM
So if it was raining bad enough that he couldn't hold onto the ball, why wasn't the game stopped?

I'm guessing no Wooster players were trying too hard to get out of the way of the ball.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on April 02, 2007, 01:43:29 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 31, 2007, 11:33:40 PM
I'm guessing no Wooster players were trying too hard to get out of the way of the ball.

I'm not sure that I've ever seen a Scot player try real hard to get out of the way of a ball!

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 02, 2007, 01:55:37 PM
Me either. Was it a Wooster player that got called out on strikes in a regional one year on a pitch that hit him? Sounds familiar, but might have been someone else (Danner Partridge maybe, or one of Allegheny's old ball magnets).
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 02, 2007, 06:47:18 PM
I'm just back from Kenyon where Wooster almost surely took a doubleheader from the Lords.  First game was something like 12-5.  Wooster broke open the second game early and led about 11-2 in the fourth when I left.  They were swinging the bats very well today.

The unofficial word is that the fourth game against Kenyon will be scrapped.  Wednesday's game against Marietta has been moved to Sunday, April 15th at 3 PM following a noon contest vs Wabash.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 02, 2007, 07:51:17 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 02, 2007, 07:04:56 PM
Why was the Marietta game moved?

The NCAC has a rule that doesn't allow teams to play on more than 2 dates between Monday and Friday.  This rule came up last season and I found an article in the Wooster paper that explained what happened last season:

Quote from: Joe Vardon of The Wooster Daily RecordThe threat of inclement weather caused the two teams to originally reschedule the game for today, but an NCAC rule regarding the number of game dates between a Monday and Friday in any given week forced the game to be wiped off the schedule.

The league rule states that no team shall play on more than two dates between Monday and Friday. Wooster played and defeated Otterbein 13-9 on Tuesday and has the first of two NCAC doubleheaders against Hiram set for Friday.

Noticing the scheduling error and fearing any possible league sanctions, Scots athletic director Keith Beckett urged coach Tim Pettorini to cancel the game.

Seeing as how the Kenyon doubleheader was rescheduled for today and Wooster has another doubleheader scheduled for Friday with Oberlin, the Marietta game had to be moved due to the NCAC rule. 

Wasn't the Marietta game a casualty of this rule last season?  I'm beginning to wonder if these two teams just aren't meant to play each other in the regular season??
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 02, 2007, 08:04:33 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 02, 2007, 06:47:18 PM
I'm just back from Kenyon where Wooster almost surely took a doubleheader from the Lords.  First game was something like 12-5.  Wooster broke open the second game early and led about 11-2 in the fourth when I left.  They were swinging the bats very well today.

Wooster most certainly did sweep Kenyon today.  The final of the nightcap was 17-5.  Wooster is now 19-0 on the season. :)

One noteworthy stat from the 1st game today is that freshman Mark Miller allowed his 1st earned run of the season in 19 innings pitched in the 7th inning!  His ERA baloons to 0.47 after today! ;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 02, 2007, 08:34:42 PM
Then why don't they move the damn Oberlin series to Sat/Sun or send the freaking JV or something. Why the heck is that series starting on a Friday anyway? Would they rather play Sat/Sun and have the kids in class on Friday? All this because of Friday doubleheader with Oberlin that makes no sense anyway? Jeez.

To have a rule like the 2 dates during a week rule and then schedule a conference series on a Friday is...well I can't explain what it is. It's the NCAC is all I can say.

Now Wooster has a MAJOR advantage in this matchup because they don't have a divisional series that weekend. Marietta is playing at Ohio Northern the day before which itself is like a 4+ hour trip from home, then has a Tuesday doubleheader in the conference as well. So it's going to be Wooster's #1 against Marietta's like #5 if that. Real fair.

With all due respect for mideastfan and you know I do, the major reasons Schaly never wanted to play Wooster had less to do with not wanting to play on the road than other reasons, IMO. IIRC, we played at Ohio Wesleyan a time or two.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 02, 2007, 11:34:49 PM
The wind was blowing out, very hard, during the first game at Kenyon.  Mark Miller gave up a homerun that, without that stiff breeze, probably doesn't get out.  It was a hard hit ball, but most likely would have been a double in the gap.

Sunday is Easter.  That's why the Oberlin series is on Friday and Saturday.  To my memory, the Scots have avoided playing on Easter for years.

I've come to the realization that I enjoyed it more when Schaly and Marietta would not schedule Wooster during the regular season and hope that once again that will come to pass.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 03, 2007, 01:09:10 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 02, 2007, 11:34:49 PM
The wind was blowing out, very hard, during the first game at Kenyon.  Mark Miller gave up a homerun that, without that stiff breeze, probably doesn't get out.  It was a hard hit ball, but most likely would have been a double in the gap.

Sunday is Easter.  That's why the Oberlin series is on Friday and Saturday.  To my memory, the Scots have avoided playing on Easter for years.

I've come to the realization that I enjoyed it more when Schaly and Marietta would not schedule Wooster during the regular season and hope that once again that will come to pass.


Then this should be the weekend they don't play a divisional opponent, rather than playing a random weekend series against Wabash for no apparent reason.

I was never in favor of Marietta playing Wooster in the regular season, especially not at Wooster. There's a reason the NCAA won't let them host a regional.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 03, 2007, 08:28:53 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 03, 2007, 01:09:10 AM
Then this should be the weekend they don't play a divisional opponent, rather than playing a random weekend series against Wabash for no apparent reason.
It's called filling your schedule?? ::)  What, are they just supposed to leave that weekend open??

Quote from: Spence on April 03, 2007, 01:09:10 AM
I was never in favor of Marietta playing Wooster in the regular season, especially not at Wooster. There's a reason the NCAA won't let them host a regional.
First of all, I'm sure that there are far worse facilities than those of Wooster's Art Murrray Field.  At the same time, Wooster baseball (and atletics as a whole)  is very deserving of getting some new facilities.  I believe there is a plan in the works to begin work on a new athletic training facilitiy and I would assume that would include builing a new baseball facility as well.  The target date I have heard to begin is around 2010. 

I guess it shows how badly kids want to play for winning programs regardless of facilities as Coach Pettorini still brings in outstanding class after outstanding class despite not having top notch facilities.  The same can be said about Coach Moore and the basketball program, although, Timken may not be 1st class, it still is one of the largest capacity DIII gyms in the country, so that doesn't hurt by any means.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Gimme on April 03, 2007, 09:56:02 AM
 I think that is true of alot of programs.  Kids want to play for winning programs over nice facilities.  Look at other schools around the mideast.  There are some very good teams with facilities that are not that great and then there are some bad teams with amazing facilities.  Kids want to compete and win...there is no point in puting in all that work to be a student-athlete and go out on a great field and look like crap.  It's more fun to win on a crappy field than it is to lose on a great field.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 03, 2007, 10:38:23 AM
I don't see any problems with Wooster's baseball field at all, not that I think that was even the subject here.

The coaching staff and players do a good job of keeping it in shape.  It has decent drainage and an automatic sprinkling system.  One of the best scoreboards (inning by inning) in DIII.  The fences, after being moved back a bit a couple of years ago, are at the DIII norm.  The wind does often blow out, but it blows out for both teams.  There aren't a lot of bleachers, but they are sufficient except for regionals and when Wooster has hosted one other bleachers have been moved in.  There is plenty of excellent standing room, especially down the left-field line.  I've never been in the press box, but although old it looks reasonably spacious.  I would doubt that Wooster has lost many potential recruits to other DIII schools due to its facilities.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 03, 2007, 02:04:12 PM
Scotsfan, there's plenty of dead time at the end of Wooster's schedule. From April 24 to May 2 they play all of 4 games. This is NOT during Finals week (during which are 3 of the 4 days of the NCAC postseason!) Or they could have played two against Wabash on their non-divisional weekend this weekend. Then you only have to fill in one game, which could easily be done during that late-season slow period.

Like Tom Hanks said in "A League Of Their Own"...let's go, God knows we have a game today. It's not like most people observe the traditional day of rest on Sunday anyway, even on Easter. Mostly they watch their kids hunt eggs and gorge themselves on Peeps, jellybeans and chocolate-covered rabbits, none of which have anything to do with Death, Burial and Resurrection of Christ. Then maybe they'll go to morning church because it's the right thing to do (even if they don't go any other time; probably not exactly what the Savior had in mind) and because the church is having potluck afterwards. :)

But even if you don't play on that day, there are plenty of other solutions that, by my estimation and I think that of others, would be preferable to play a doubleheader on Friday afternoon, considering that conference rule.

Wooster Booster, you really need to get out more and see more facilities. OOOO, an inning-by-inning scoreboard...never seen one of those before!

Standing room is actually a problem for hosting. The facility needs to be enclosed, to as to be able to charge attendance. Parking looks like it would be a nightmare from looking at the campus map. And temporary bleachers are a bad idea. They're not secured and there have been cases where temporary bleachers collapsed and caused injuries (and most likely, lawsuits). Don't think the NCAA wants to go down that road. In addition, lately it seems the NCAA is only hosting at facilities without lights as a last resort.

This is without even knowing if Wooster has the other facilities necessary and/or preferred like permanent restrooms, adequate press facilities (for radio, adequate seating for out of town media and administrators), umpire facilities.

What do you mean "when Wooster has hosted in the past?" I didn't think Wooster had ever hosted an NCAA regional at Art Murray. They or the NCAC have hosted, but it was in Canton, far as I know.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 03, 2007, 02:23:39 PM
Conferences have all sorts of rules. I bet a lot of people think it's stupid that the OAC can't recruit off campus and changes its football schedule every year, but it happens.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 03, 2007, 02:35:08 PM
True Pat, but doesn't it seem that the NCAC (and Wooster if it had any choice) has created its own problem here?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 03, 2007, 04:14:02 PM
Not sure why you are expending so much energy over it. I doubt this is something that anyone here can especially fix and I don't think the rest of the NCAC wants you coming in to argue over it.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 03, 2007, 05:37:43 PM
I'm expending the energy because it looks suspiciously like Wooster's trying to pull one over by rescheduling the Marietta game on a favorable weekend for them, and quite unfavorable for Marietta (road DH at Ohio Northern the day before, conf DH Tues., while Wooster has no conference games for 7 days on either side?)

Which looks suspiciously like them ducking out of last year's game.

Personally, I hope the game never gets played, Brewer never puts the Woo Woos on the schedule again and they can just rack up their 17-18 cheap wins  a year against OberHiraKenyaGheny. That or we go up there and win with our like #7 pitcher against their ace, of course (4 starters plus a couple relievers for the conference games), then Brewer never puts the Woo Woos on the schedule again.

Btw, this is a perfectly legitimate topic to discuss on the NCAC board. It involves an NCAC team and their schedule.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 03, 2007, 06:54:57 PM
Perhaps you should take your suspicions up with Wooster, then, and not with NCAC fans.

I agree it looks like last year. And I remember what last year's discussion blew up into. I'm not posting here randomly.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 03, 2007, 07:21:11 PM
Well I've said all there is to say really.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 04, 2007, 08:23:22 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 03, 2007, 07:21:11 PM
Well I've said all there is to say really.
Thank God!!! ::)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 04, 2007, 09:08:33 AM
But I'm the antagonizer, eh?

Way to take the high road. Stay classy.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 04, 2007, 11:34:00 AM
You really are something else Spence.  You're the last one that should be criticizing others for lack of class!!! 

I would also like to clarify something for you:
Quote from: Spence on April 03, 2007, 02:04:12 PM

What do you mean "when Wooster has hosted in the past?" I didn't think Wooster had ever hosted an NCAA regional at Art Murray. They or the NCAC have hosted, but it was in Canton, far as I know.


How about checking the following link out for yourself Mr. Knowitall:

2004 Wooster Baseball Final Results (http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/archives/2004/schedule.php)

Scroll down to the bottom and you can plainly see that Wooster did indeed host the Mideast Regional that year!

Another thing. 
Quote from: Spence on April 03, 2007, 02:04:12 PM

Standing room is actually a problem for hosting. The facility needs to be enclosed, to as to be able to charge attendance. Parking looks like it would be a nightmare from looking at the campus map. And temporary bleachers are a bad idea. They're not secured and there have been cases where temporary bleachers collapsed and caused injuries (and most likely, lawsuits). Don't think the NCAA wants to go down that road. In addition, lately it seems the NCAA is only hosting at facilities without lights as a last resort.

This is without even knowing if Wooster has the other facilities necessary and/or preferred like permanent restrooms, adequate press facilities (for radio, adequate seating for out of town media and administrators), umpire facilities.

Seeing as how you seem to be the resident expert on what a poor facility Art Murray Field is and all, judging from your post, it doesn't even seem like you've ever even been there?!  If you have, why do you have to go by the campus map to determine that the parking lots seem to be a 'nightmare'??  And they obviously met all the criteria since they did host just 3 seasons ago!

Lastly, maybe you should go join up with Oliver Stone on your idea that Wooster is trying to pull one over on Marietta!  I hear he's always a sucker for a good conspiracy theory?! ::)

Now that I've gotten that off my chest, I have one last thing to say.  Do us all a favor and go chat with yourself over on the OAC board, because after today, I have no intentions of caring what you have to say and I would hope that everyone in here will follow suit, so you will basically be talking to yourself in here as well.  At least you can do it on your own board!

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 04, 2007, 02:17:26 PM
OK so they hosted once, probably for lack of anywhere else to have it. I was wrong, it does happen on occasion, especially when I'm in Mississippi in training status (no cable TV, no internet) I notice they haven't gone back and have gone to Rose-Hulman two straight years since even though it's on the far end of the region.

Finally, Washington University hosted last year despite not having lights. Doesn't mean that was the preferred place. Sometimes you're just hard up and have to take what's there.

Lastly, I haven't been there, I don't ever want to go there. I've heard all I need to from people that have been there. I don't really aim to go much of anywhere in northern Ohio, really. Judging from the negative population growth in large parts of the region, it doesn't appear I'm alone.

One last thing, explain to me why of all days they could have chosen Wooster chooses a weekend where they don't have a divisional game to worry about for the reschedule date?

Oh and to close, you're not the only person on this board. It is not your role to censor it.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 04, 2007, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 04, 2007, 02:17:26 PMOne last thing, explain to me why of all days they could have chosen Wooster chooses a weekend where they don't have a divisional game to worry about for the reschedule date?

This is Wooster's remaining schedule:

April 6 OBERLIN* (2) 1:00
April 7 OBERLIN* (2) 1:00
April 11 at Kent State 3:00
April 12 at Otterbein 4:00
April 14 WABASH (2) 1:00
April 15 WABASH Noon
April 15 MARIETTA 3:00
April 18 MUSKINGUM 4:00
April 19 at Heidelberg 4:00
April 21 at Hiram* (2) 1:00
April 22 at Hiram* (2) 1:00
April 24 OTTERBEIN 4:00
April 25 at Denison 7:00
May 1 at Ohio Northern 4:00
May 2 at John Carroll 4:00
May 5-6 NCAC Tournament Semifinal Series TBD

Kent State and Otterbein fill out next week's schedule because of the two game-date maximum between Mondays and Fridays.  The weekend of the 21st and 22nd is booked full with Hiram.  The following week, again because of the rule that you should now be familiar with, is also full with games against Otterbein and Denison.

On Saturday May 28th Wooster is off but Marietta hosts Heidelberg.  On Sunday May 29th Wooster is again off.  Marietta appears to be also except for a home JV doubleheader.

The following week is full for Wooster with games against Ohio Northern and John Carroll.

The only other day that I can see where Marietta could possibly be rebooked would be Sunday May 29th.  Rather than loudly complaining on here that Marietta is getting screwed, why don't you call the two athletic departments and see if anyone can tell you why that date wasn't chosen?  While you're at it, you might want to ask the Marietta coaching staff if they have any complaints about the cancellation of today's game and the rescheduling date. 

It's very possible, believe it or not, that they preferred playing on the Sunday when Wabash was here rather than waiting until deep into the season when more postponements may pile up and the scheduling of league games becomes a problem.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 04, 2007, 04:10:37 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 04, 2007, 03:46:56 PM
[The only other day that I can see where Marietta could possibly be rebooked would be Sunday May 29th.

If I was Wooster and Marietta.  A game on 29 May would suit me just fine (two days into the Championship round).

I expect you meant 29 April.

I would expect that all schools schedules are set up to favor their team. 

+K for Wooster Booster for making me aware of the two game rule between Monday and Friday.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 04, 2007, 05:10:51 PM
Jim -

Yep, I meant April 29th.  Thanks for the karma point, I've been finding them hard to come by, so I won't give it back, although it was Scotsfan that first mentioned the rule. :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on April 04, 2007, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 04, 2007, 04:10:37 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 04, 2007, 03:46:56 PM
[The only other day that I can see where Marietta could possibly be rebooked would be Sunday May 29th.

If I was Wooster and Marietta.  A game on 29 May would suit me just fine (two days into the Championship round).



hey, being a Marietta fan, I'd LOVE to see MC and Wooster play on May 29th.  In fact I'm thinking that they need to ship one of them to a different regional this year (and Otterbein to a third regional), so they all can meet up in Wisconsin over Memorial Day weekend and beat up on each other there!!

I have a feeling that if they were all shipped to different regions last year, they all would have been playing in Wisconsin......in fact, I'm pretty sure of it.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 04, 2007, 05:37:39 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 04, 2007, 05:10:51 PM
Jim -

Yep, I meant April 29th.  Thanks for the karma point, I've been finding them hard to come by, so I won't give it back, although it was Scotsfan that first mentioned the rule. :)

Well applause for Scotsfan too.  I've been able to keep my karma level at 10% of responses. 

1984 was just like that 3 of 6 teams were from the same conference.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 04, 2007, 06:06:19 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 04, 2007, 05:37:39 PMI've been able to keep my karma level at 10% of responses.

If I can pick up 83 karma points on my next post, I'll be right with you.  I'd better make it a doozy.  ;D
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 04, 2007, 07:25:49 PM
Quote from: mideastfan on April 04, 2007, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 04, 2007, 04:10:37 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 04, 2007, 03:46:56 PM
[The only other day that I can see where Marietta could possibly be rebooked would be Sunday May 29th.

If I was Wooster and Marietta.  A game on 29 May would suit me just fine (two days into the Championship round).



hey, being a Marietta fan, I'd LOVE to see MC and Wooster play on May 29th.  In fact I'm thinking that they need to ship one of them to a different regional this year (and Otterbein to a third regional), so they all can meet up in Wisconsin over Memorial Day weekend and beat up on each other there!!

I have a feeling that if they were all shipped to different regions last year, they all would have been playing in Wisconsin......in fact, I'm pretty sure of it.

I think there's a decent chance of it happening this year. I've outlined on another board the likelihood of the Central, Midwest and West all needing team and the South needing to get rid of them.

I'd take a May 29 game LOL. I have to disagree though that if Wooster had been sent to another region that they would have won. They were the 4th best in the regional last year at best, maybe 5th considering how well Adrian showed. There's maybe only one region IMO they might have won. Otterbein I think very likely would have won in New York, Central, South, Midwest and New England. Mid-Atlantic and the Chapman Invitational would have been tough nuts to crack; maybe they do, maybe they don't. Same would go for anyone.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 04, 2007, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 04, 2007, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 04, 2007, 02:17:26 PMOne last thing, explain to me why of all days they could have chosen Wooster chooses a weekend where they don't have a divisional game to worry about for the reschedule date?

This is Wooster's remaining schedule:

April 6 OBERLIN* (2) 1:00
April 7 OBERLIN* (2) 1:00
April 11 at Kent State 3:00
April 12 at Otterbein 4:00
April 14 WABASH (2) 1:00
April 15 WABASH Noon
April 15 MARIETTA 3:00
April 18 MUSKINGUM 4:00
April 19 at Heidelberg 4:00
April 21 at Hiram* (2) 1:00
April 22 at Hiram* (2) 1:00
April 24 OTTERBEIN 4:00
April 25 at Denison 7:00
May 1 at Ohio Northern 4:00
May 2 at John Carroll 4:00
May 5-6 NCAC Tournament Semifinal Series TBD

Kent State and Otterbein fill out next week's schedule because of the two game-date maximum between Mondays and Fridays.  The weekend of the 21st and 22nd is booked full with Hiram.  The following week, again because of the rule that you should now be familiar with, is also full with games against Otterbein and Denison.

On Saturday May 28th Wooster is off but Marietta hosts Heidelberg.  On Sunday May 29th Wooster is again off.  Marietta appears to be also except for a home JV doubleheader.

The following week is full for Wooster with games against Ohio Northern and John Carroll.

The only other day that I can see where Marietta could possibly be rebooked would be Sunday May 29th.  Rather than loudly complaining on here that Marietta is getting screwed, why don't you call the two athletic departments and see if anyone can tell you why that date wasn't chosen?  While you're at it, you might want to ask the Marietta coaching staff if they have any complaints about the cancellation of today's game and the rescheduling date. 

It's very possible, believe it or not, that they preferred playing on the Sunday when Wabash was here rather than waiting until deep into the season when more postponements may pile up and the scheduling of league games becomes a problem.


I'm not going to call anyone. Like I said, I don't care if they don't play at all; suits me better if they don't.

I see other options within their schedule, but whatever. I hope it rains buckets on the 13th. Speaking of weather, it's ridiculous up there in northern Ohio tonight! Single-digit wind chills in early April.

In sunny central South Carolina (80 degrees at 8 p.m. local), that seems pretty funny.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 04, 2007, 09:09:05 PM
You won't call anyone because then the actual facts might get in the way of your anti-Wooster rant, which you now seem to be expanding to include all of Northern Ohio.  You see other options in the Wooster schedule?  Why don't you please tell us what they are?



Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 04, 2007, 09:41:57 PM
You don't really want to know, you want to shoot down whatever I say. It's not going to change and you haven't acted like you genuinely care what my alternate solutions would have been so I'm not going to bother. I'll just pray for rain, or maybe snow or gale force winds the way it's looking.

Oh relax. Fact, it's really cold in northern Ohio tonight (current wind chill in Wooster, 18, with 13 in Mansfield; and the night's still young). Very cold, for April.

But hey, it's supposed to "cool down" to about 60 for a high here Friday. :) Of course, I'm going to the coast where it'll be more like 65-67.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 05, 2007, 12:03:14 PM
The word from the athletic department at the College of Wooster is that rather than postpone the upcoming games against Oberlin due to the wintery weather they will be played inside at Timken Gym.  A temporary, and obviously scaled-down, playing field is now under construction.

Home plate will be situated exactly on the southeast corner of the basketball court, allowing it's sideline and endline to be used as foul lines.  The opposite bleachers, those on the north side, will be retracted to add the necessary distance creating a high wall, sort of a mirror image of Fenway Park.  Wiffle balls, of course, will be substituted for the real thing, but officials from the NCAC have assured both teams that all statistics for the four games will stand.

Game time 1 PM tomorrow.  Admission, as usual, will be free.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 05, 2007, 09:05:29 PM
Gym wiffle ball was great, especially when you duct taped the holes!

Edit: Weather Underground isn't showing a high out of the 40s for Wooster until next Thursday?! The weather's going to pure crap everywhere up north this weekend, but man that's a long time in April to go without seeing anything even resembling warm.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 07, 2007, 10:18:01 AM
Wooster improved to 21-0 with a doubleheader sweep of Oberlin yesterday.  Adam Samson picked up the win in game one allowing one hit in 5 innings of work in a 7-1 win.  Samson improved to 4-0 on the season.  In the nightcap, freshman Matt DeGrand improved to 3-0 on the season allowing just 2 hits over 6 innings. 

Wooster will look to push their unbeaten streak to 23 games this afternoon.  That would match Wooster's record for their longest winning streak in school history!  If Wooster can continue the streak today, they will get a very stiff challenge to actually break the record as they will be on the road facing Kent State and Ott on back to back days this coming Wednesday and Thursday.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 07, 2007, 10:32:08 AM
Sheesh ....  I go away for a week, come home to catch up on what's been going on in DIII Baseball and it reads like the movie Groundhog Day.  We had this Wooster-Marietta discussion last year.  Let's move on.

Spence, I actually don't mind you coming onto the NCAC site if you talk baseball.  The game, not the politics.  Last spring we actually had some very interesting baseball discussion, and I know you are capable based on your postings in other threads.  Just leave out the Wooster bashing and NCAC bashing would you when you come here.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 07, 2007, 10:38:35 AM
In my obligatory role of letting the upper half know how the other half lives.
Wabash Baseball takes 2 yesterday from the even worse Earlham Quakers.
Season record for the Little Giants runs to 8-17-1 (3-7 NCAC West).

Word is this is a young, talented team that shoots itself in the foot with untimely errors and inability to hit in the clutch.  In short they have been in most games but can not close.  The core of the team are sophs and several frosh are now regualrs in the line up so maybe there is hope for the future.  Unfortunately, 1-7 against Denison and Witt means we have a ways to go yet.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 07, 2007, 08:15:44 PM
Is it bashing if I ask why in the world the second Oberlin-Wooster game was called after 4 1/2 innings?

Screw it I don't care if it is bashing.

"Game two was called after four and a half innings of play due to the weather."

That's from the Oberlin writeup...which is already up even though Wooster was the home team. No writeup is yet available from Wooster's site.

Thing is, I fail to see how the weather was any worse than it had been all day. Snow was initially observed at KBJJ (Wayne Co. airport) at 12:56 p.m.; right around game time. The game time temp would have been 25-27, depending on exactly when the game started (-4C at 12:59, -3C at 1:04).  That temperature hardly changed all day...so it didn't get much colder.

Wind gusts were observed at around 25 mph until 3:10 p.m. when they kicked up to 38 mph. That was the strongest wind, the next hour the peak wind was 33 mph. The hour after that, 28...back about where the afternoon started. So the winds weren't any stronger when they quit than when they started. But they were higher a couple hours earlier. So if anything, they should have quit earlier if they were going to.

Visibility, in addition to being self-explanatory, is also a measure of snow intensity under constant conditions...Since the winds were blowing about the same most of the day, the lowest visibility constitutes the times of the heaviest snowfall. At gametime the visibility was 1-2 miles. As would be expected with light snow and flurries, the visibility hopped up and down all day, but the visibility at 4:42 was 1 mile. At 5:40 when the game was called, the visibility was 3 miles. Again, if anything they should have called it an hour before.

National Weather Service radar's total storm precip product is indicating only a trace of precip for pretty much anywhere off the lake, which tells me there shouldnt' have been an issue with accumulation.

Conditions were bad, but they weren't any worse than when the first game of the day started. This was only a 4-1 game; all of Wooster's runs were unearned. Oberlin had their ace pitching. This wasn't a lost cause for Oberlin.

So my very simple question, in light of all the weather data I've produced, what reason was there to call the game when it was called? For anyone that says "ask the umpires", the umpires' names were not included on the Wooster-produced box score.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 07, 2007, 08:48:12 PM
Was the game played at the airport??
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 07, 2007, 09:31:23 PM
Obviously not. But this isn't Chardon. Snowfall rates differing wildly over a 6 mile distance is highly unlikely.

Edit: I regularly forecast for locations that are less than 35 miles apart, and the forecasts are usually very very similar, with the differences mainly owing to factors not in play in Wayne County (terrain differences, dust source regions, moisture source regions) and not applicable to synoptic gradient winds and snow.



Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 07, 2007, 09:37:44 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 07, 2007, 08:15:44 PM
Is it bashing if I ask why in the world the second Oberlin-Wooster game was called after 4 1/2 innings?

Screw it I don't care if it is bashing.

"Game two was called after four and a half innings of play due to the weather."

That's from the Oberlin writeup...which is already up even though Wooster was the home team. No writeup is yet available from Wooster's site.

Thing is, I fail to see how the weather was any worse than it had been all day. Snow was initially observed at KBJJ (Wayne Co. airport) at 12:56 p.m.; right around game time. The game time temp would have been 25-27, depending on exactly when the game started (-4C at 12:59, -3C at 1:04).  That temperature hardly changed all day...so it didn't get much colder.

Wind gusts were observed at around 25 mph until 3:10 p.m. when they kicked up to 38 mph. That was the strongest wind, the next hour the peak wind was 33 mph. The hour after that, 28...back about where the afternoon started. So the winds weren't any stronger when they quit than when they started. But they were higher a couple hours earlier. So if anything, they should have quit earlier if they were going to.

Visibility, in addition to being self-explanatory, is also a measure of snow intensity under constant conditions...Since the winds were blowing about the same most of the day, the lowest visibility constitutes the times of the heaviest snowfall. At gametime the visibility was 1-2 miles. As would be expected with light snow and flurries, the visibility hopped up and down all day, but the visibility at 4:42 was 1 mile. At 5:40 when the game was called, the visibility was 3 miles. Again, if anything they should have called it an hour before.

National Weather Service radar's total storm precip product is indicating only a trace of precip for pretty much anywhere off the lake, which tells me there shouldnt' have been an issue with accumulation.

Conditions were bad, but they weren't any worse than when the first game of the day started. This was only a 4-1 game; all of Wooster's runs were unearned. Oberlin had their ace pitching. This wasn't a lost cause for Oberlin.

So my very simple question, in light of all the weather data I've produced, what reason was there to call the game when it was called? For anyone that says "ask the umpires", the umpires' names were not included on the Wooster-produced box score.


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Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 07, 2007, 09:41:10 PM
Thanks for the non-response. I think it's a reasonable question and if I were someone from Oberlin, I'd sure as heck want to know the answer.

I suppose with the reported attendance of 20 -- not sure if that includes staff and media or not -- unless Tim Pettorini, Eric Lahetta or one of the umpires reads this board, we're pretty unlikely to get a first-hand answer.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 07, 2007, 09:47:19 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 07, 2007, 09:41:10 PMunless Tim Pettorini, Eric Lahetta or one of the umpires reads this board, we're pretty unlikely to get a first-hand answer.

Fire up Word and send a letter. Nobody here can give you an answer and I doubt ANYONE can give you the answer you want: That it's all part of a conspiracy to aid Wooster.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 07, 2007, 09:54:07 PM
LOL you probably don't want to get me started. Look no further than the change to the postseason format a couple years back as evidence that the NCAC is protecting its top programs from upset in the postseason. As for what the deal was today...I have no idea.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 07, 2007, 10:01:27 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 07, 2007, 09:54:07 PMLOL you probably don't want to get me started.

You mean the last 3 pages of posts represents your warm-ups?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 07, 2007, 10:29:44 PM
Spence -

I was at the Oberlin-Wooster game when it was called.  After Trappazano struck out the side in the top of the fifth, BOTH coaches immediately walked towards homeplate and shook hands.  They were apparently in complete agreement about stopping the contest and in their desire to go home. 

Oberlin had alreadly lost three games in absolutely horrible and deteriorating conditions, weather that was every bit as bad as the Indians saw last night, weather that caused the ballgames in Cleveland and Kent State today to be cancelled.  They wanted to be in their vans and out of there, as did the Wooster players.  All had put in a very long and hard afternoon, as had the umpires.  Both teams shook hands, smiling, laughing, and joking, as the ordeal of playing baseball in snowy 26 degree conditions was finally over.

Once again, you've thrown some large bricks at Wooster without knowing the facts.  If you were a journalist of any sort and went about casting such non-subtle allegations without any substantiation or preliminary fact-checking you'd very likely be out of a job or facing a libel suit.

Nobody in this room wants to listen to you anymore, Spence.  You and your tired act have managed to drive away most of the posters and those that remain have seen the conversation shift away from NCAC baseball to your lousy anti-Wooster agenda.  We've simply had enough of you, period.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 07, 2007, 11:09:39 PM
Props on being one of the illustrious 20.

I don't really care who agreed to it, it still should have been finished, though I would think the Oberlin coach would have wanted to finish it. That shows a lack of a competitive drive on his part and might explain why his team gets drummed every year by anyone good. The one game you've got a chance to win against Wooster and you give it up with 2 innings to go?

I've thrown no bricks at anyone...I just said in light of the conditions not really changing, why was that time chosen to call the game? I made no accusations toward anyone, except maybe the umpires for letting it happen.

I covered all the weather-related arguments in advance because I knew that's what I would get otherwise...crap like "because it was snowing and windy" well duh.

As for "deteriorating" conditions, I already proved otherwise, unless you care to argue that the weather 6 miles away was markedly different from at the ballpark. I've been to Heidelberg and Ohio Northern; I know what bad baseball weather is. Doesn't mean you just up and quit on a conference game, just after it becomes official. John Carroll and Wilmington quit in the 1st of the second game and JCU is in the East Cleveland lake effect snow belt.

I'm not a journalist anymore. If I were and wrote for someone where it would have been an issue, I would find out what the deal was. If I still thought it was BS, well that's what columns are for :)

How was this question not about NCAC baseball? Are you implying that Oberlin doesn't play NCAC baseball?

Sorry to take the topic away from how Wooster baseball is the greatest thing since sliced bread and never does anything wrong.

Edit: The John Carroll/Wilmington game was at Wilmington. I wondered how the heck they played in east Cleveland today when they were supposed to get lke 6 inches of snow lol.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 08, 2007, 12:22:16 AM
I'm through wasting my time here.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on April 08, 2007, 10:24:26 AM
Spence,

From your post where you gave your edit... it seems your involved in weather forecasting.  IF so, and you are a knowledgable baseball fan which seems like it is also true (you post on here regularly..)... then you MUST know that poor weather conditions over a long period of time cause field conditions to deteriorate.

That being the case, I am betting the field was getting to the point where it was becoming slippry and dangerous for the players... and the balls being wet (from the poor field condtions) did the same thing.

Why is it that the game can't be called... I don't know anything in the rules that says a game MUST be finished once started. 

Stop arguing just to argue... games are called all the time.  And in my opinion, most of the ones that are called are called an inning too late...

:)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 08, 2007, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: Bob Maxwell on April 08, 2007, 10:24:26 AM
Spence,

From your post where you gave your edit... it seems your involved in weather forecasting.  IF so, and you are a knowledgable baseball fan which seems like it is also true (you post on here regularly..)... then you MUST know that poor weather conditions over a long period of time cause field conditions to deteriorate.

That being the case, I am betting the field was getting to the point where it was becoming slippry and dangerous for the players... and the balls being wet (from the poor field condtions) did the same thing.

Why is it that the game can't be called... I don't know anything in the rules that says a game MUST be finished once started. 

Stop arguing just to argue... games are called all the time.  And in my opinion, most of the ones that are called are called an inning too late...

:)

It just seems like they called it after 4 1/2 innings because it was an official game and because it was cold and snowy when it had been cold and snowy all day. Snow generally doesn't cause nearly as much moisture on the ground as rain unless it is very heavy and very wet; recall the 1/10 ratio that doesn't always work, but is a pretty good guideline. If this had been rain, it would have been barely enough to notice.

If someone had said the reason they cancelled was something like "because the pitcher needed ice skates, the bats had icicles on them and a Moon Pie truck crashed into the back of the press box," then I would have been like "ok I get it."

I really don't think I've been that argumentative on this thread. I simply ruled out false reasoning before it could be given. We had one of the 20 true diehards in attendance (seriously, given the opponent and the weather, I probably would have stayed inside and listened to it on the radio lol) on this thread and while he said conditions were horrible -- which we knew when the day started -- he didn't give any concrete examples of conditions being demonstrably dangerous in a way they weren't earlier.

Mostly I feel bad for Oberlin's players and program. There's simply no way I could ever understand agreeing to call the game at that point. We've played at Heidelberg when it snowing and in the teens and played both ends of the doubleheader. Neither team ever asked about calling it early to my knowledge.

I'm good with calling an end to this conversation unless someone else has some additional info. I'm sorry if anything sounded like I was trying to start a fight; I wasn't. The whole thing just really looked strange to me and didn't look any less strange after I checked out the local weather observations.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 08, 2007, 09:31:12 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 08, 2007, 12:51:51 PM
Mostly I feel bad for Oberlin's players and program. There's simply no way I could ever understand agreeing to call the game at that point. We've played at Heidelberg when it snowing and in the teens and played both ends of the doubleheader. Neither team ever asked about calling it early to my knowledge.
From listening to the games yesterday on the radio, it's my understanding that Oberlin didn't even want to be there in the first place.  Ken Nemeth (Wooster's play-by-play announcer) said that Oberlin's coach had called Pettorni and asked him if it was even worth if for them to make the drive down and Pettorini basically said that they were going to try to get the games in.  The games were on the schedule and needed to at least be given a shot at getting them in. 

From the sounds of it, the demeanor of the Oberlin team wasn't good from the opening pitch.  Nemeth described the Yeomen as looking very uninspired and like they had no desire to be there from the minute they stepped off the vans.  That being said, I find it really hard to believe that one could say that Oberlin were somehow made to call the game early against their will.  Seems pretty obvious by the description of Oberlin's demeanor durning both games that they were more than willing to oblige and get out of the elements as soon as the game became official.  Yes Oberlin had their ace on the mound and they were only down 4-1 at the time the game was called.  But Wooster also had their ace on the mound and he had just struck out the side.  And it's not like Oberlin's offense was showing any signs of suddenly coming to life based on their lack of it in the 1st three games of the series. 

Bottom line is, I would wager to bet that Oberlin wanted to get out of there early just as bad, if not worse, than Wooster did!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 08, 2007, 10:52:30 PM
Well I guess the state of Oberlin baseball could hardly be explained better. I can see disagreeing with playing the games under those conditions though (I don't think anyone else in northern Ohio played, at least that I'm aware of).

In all honesty and seriousness, I don't really understand why Oberlin has an athletics program. They don't make money, they're not very good, and no one seems to mind that too much. Academically it's one of the best schools of its kind in the country and would have little trouble attracting qualified applicants, with or without sports.

Interesting that you refer to Trapuzzano as their ace and not Samson. Not saying I disagree, just figure most people would have figured Samson was.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 09, 2007, 06:43:04 PM
Final just in:  Denison 3, Muskingum 2  (10 innings)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 11, 2007, 02:39:28 PM
Wooster's game with Kent State for today has been postponed as well as tomorrow's date with Otterbein.  No make-up has been scheduled yet.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 11, 2007, 03:21:24 PM
The extended forecast isn't looking too good in Ohio for Saturday and Sunday either. Depending on which model you believe there might be a chance for Sunday, but Saturday is looking bad anywhere you turn.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 13, 2007, 09:32:04 AM
Wooster was able to get a game in yesterday against Case.  They broke the school record for consecutive wins at 24 in a row with a 17-0 trouncing of an undermanned Case.  Adam Samson got the win  facing the minimum through 5.  He struck out six and only gave up one single.  He is now 5-0 on the season with an era of 1.66 

While it would have been sweeter breaking the record with a win over Kent St, it's still an impressive feat by the Scots.  Congrats on breaking the record!

Wooster will be in action again today (weather permitting ::)) once again against Case.  While Case isn't the most competive challenge for the Scots, at least its some live game action and better than no games at all.

As for the rescheduling of the KSU and Ott games, I haven't heard any word on the Ott game.  It was removed from the schedule, so it looks like that game won't be rescheduled.  From what I've read in the paper, it looks as if the only date KSU has available is on the same day the Scots are scheduled to play Musky, and it sounds as if Wooster would like to get with Musky to work something out so they could get the Kent game in.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 13, 2007, 11:54:06 AM
Some more scheduling updates to pass along:

Wooster's DH with Wabash tomorrow has been moved up to 11 am and Sunday's game with Marietta has been ppd, I'm sure much to the delight of a certain poster in here. ::) 

From the weather forecast on weather.com, it looks like they might be able to squeeze in both games if the rain holds off long enough.  They're predicting rain moving in around 3 pm.  The Tribe moved their start time to their game up as well on Saturday.  It was originally scheduled to be a night game, but due to the forecast, it is now a 1:05 start.  At least they are actually finally getting to play at home though!  8) (knocking on wood  :P)

This spirng has just been whacky! :P  I'm beginning to wonder if we will ever truly see spring?! ::)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 13, 2007, 02:21:23 PM
Saturday looks like they might be dodging raindrops, Sunday would be crazy. Have my doubts that Marietta even plays at Northern Saturday, which would have made Sunday impossible. Rain coming in late is one thing, snow or mixed precip is another.

The primary model used in North America (the North American Model, imagine that!) is keeping most of the precip Saturday south of I-70 with precip coming in from the south Sunday for northeast Ohio. Marietta could probably play at Northern Sunday if they can travel Saturday.

I'm going to be driving to Alabama tomorrow and that's not going to be a picnic either. I'm probably going to have to cut my stay at the Lewis Grizzard Museum in Moreland, GA short! Horror!

Hope everyone plays it safe up there this weekend...foolish decisions in situations like this can get people hurt.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: WooMix on April 13, 2007, 10:10:46 PM
Impressive what the Scots are doing!  Hopefully the winning streak continues through the season and the play-offs.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 15, 2007, 03:05:36 PM
Way to go LGs!!!!

Wabash beats Wooster 3-2. Box score here (http://www.wabash.edu/sports/docs/baseballstats/2007/woob415.htm)

Wooster's recap here (http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/recaps/2007/wabash2.php)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 15, 2007, 05:16:22 PM
Congrats to Wabash and Joey Niezer.  He was dominant from the outset, keeping the Scot hitters off balance all day long.  He has a somewhat unusual release, almost coming a bit from the side like Walter Johnson, which gave his fastball a little rise or hop to it.  Combine that with generally very good control and a nice breaking ball and he had a very impressive outing, as good as I've seen against Wooster in about ten years.

Wooster had to try to manufacture runs when they had opportunities and did a good job of moving up their baserunners.  But they only hit two balls decently all day; Shaun Swearingen's RBI single to right in the seventh and a hard slicing shot, also to right, by Sankal in the 6th.  That one was hauled in by the Wabash rightfielder with a nice diving grab.

I kept thinking that eventually the Wooster hitters, whose first six swings produced end-of-the-bat ground balls, would get to Niezer.  But that never happened as he finished nearly as strong as he began.

The Little Giants looked like a better ballclub than their record shows.  Some throwing errors cost them in the first two games, and they had trouble stopping the Scots from stealing bases, but overall their defense looked decent.  Offensively they need to improve but I wouldn't be surprised if they contend in their division next season.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 15, 2007, 06:34:59 PM
I too have to throw out my congratulations to the Wabash players and Coach Stevens for a signature win for this young team.  I hope Wooster Booster is correct with his prediction for Wabash next season.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 15, 2007, 06:53:18 PM
Thanks for the first hand report, WooBoo.

One thing jumped out at me, though:

Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 15, 2007, 05:16:22 PMHe has a somewhat unusual release, almost coming a bit from the side like Walter Johnson

Tell me this comparison comes from watching old film and not from a personal viewing. That would make you about 106 years old!  ;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 15, 2007, 10:08:01 PM
Old film.  But Johnson did pitch until 1927 and one of the guys that I watch Wooster games with is in his late eighties and actually saw "The Big Train" pitch against the Indians when he was a little kid.  :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 16, 2007, 08:21:49 AM
Wooster Booster-

  Would that guy have the initials C. Mc.?  Just curious. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 16, 2007, 08:52:51 AM
Yep, that would be him.  Surprisingly missing for yesterday's game.  Hmm, do I know you?  Throw some initials at me. :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: smedindy on April 16, 2007, 10:07:38 AM
Congrats to Wabash! I think the program is in the right direction!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 16, 2007, 10:32:15 AM
Huzzah to Wabash!  That's a great result and a great building block for the team. 

Now if we can figure out how to beat the other black and gold clad team on our schedule.... ;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 16, 2007, 01:16:32 PM
Wooster Booster-

  They would be S.M.A. I played basketball for C. Mc. a 7-8 years ago.  I stood along the fence down the 3rd baseline a few times last spring when I could make it. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 16, 2007, 02:13:26 PM
Doesn't Niezer throw a gyroball? That would explain the funky delivery.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 16, 2007, 04:38:59 PM
The Daily Record article mentioned the gyroball, in that it said that he didn't throw any in the game.  He must have at least experimented with it in the past or they wouldn't have even brought it up.  His delivery wasn't that strange; maybe somewhere just above sidearm, but he got a lot of movement on the ball.  He sure looked to be a better pitcher than someone who came into the game with an ERA as high as he had, though.  He looked like their best to me.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 16, 2007, 05:41:47 PM
Niezer was actually part of a pretty extensive article I read a while ago on espn.com that examined the myth of the gyroball.  In said article, Niezer says he doesn't throw it.  I don't think anybody can throw it to be quite honest.  I think there might be some youtube clips of Niezer in high school that claim to capture the gyro...it looks like a good slider to me. 

Here's a link to the espn.com article if you're interested...it's a pretty long read. 

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=gyroballsearch
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 16, 2007, 06:38:39 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 16, 2007, 05:41:47 PM
I think there might be some youtube clips of Niezer in high school that claim to capture

I did find video of Niezer on youtube.  It isn't very difinitive, but if you want to check it out, here is the link:

Niezer gyroball video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE4R8rYkUWE)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 16, 2007, 08:36:12 PM
All the Gyroball videos look like those grainy Sasquatch and UFO videos.

Oh, and am I the only one who gets a craving for one of these every time they see the word "Gyroball"?

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi19.tinypic.com%2F359yg05.jpg&hash=684e6069fa5673e4a00bffc3dd3f14c96836c60b)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 17, 2007, 09:11:12 AM
Wooster is jumbling their schedule once again.  Wednesday's game at Musky has been ppd. and the Scots are now going to be at Kent St. to make up their game with the Golden Flashes. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: smedindy on April 17, 2007, 09:51:30 AM
Will Carroll taught Niezer the gyroball, but I think he just has some nasty breaking stuff. Maybe Hayden Sidd Finch threw the gyroball in Nepal?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 18, 2007, 07:34:40 PM
Wooster downed Kent State this afternoon 3-2!  Wooster built a 3-0 lead through 4 innings with Samson on the mound.  Samson surrendered single runs in the 4th and 7th innings before giving way to freshman Matt Barnes.  Barnes shut the door on the Flashes in the 7th and forced KSU into an inning ending DP in the 8th.  Then fellow frosh Mark Miller came on in the 9th to retire the side after allowing a leadoff single.

What a way to bounce back for Wooster after suffering their 1st loss of the season!!

Things don't get much easier for Wooster as they travel down to Heidelberg tomorrow afternoon.  All the Student Princes have done this season is put up a 21-8 record on the season (their 8th 20+ win season in a row) and they are also currently tied atop the very competitive OAC with OTT.  Should be another good game tomorrow down at the Berg.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 18, 2007, 07:53:37 PM
Must be nice to be able to throw your ace in a midweek non-conference game.

Unfortunately Heidelberg doesn't have the same luxury, having played six games since Fri and playing Otterbein this weekend.

These are the kinds of things that aren't taken into consideration at the end of the year that should be. Not only does a weak conference give you a lot of easy wins, it allows you do things like throw your ace against a struggling D-I team's #8 or whatever.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 19, 2007, 08:22:46 AM
blah, blah blah...........
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 19, 2007, 09:08:29 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 18, 2007, 07:53:37 PM

Not only does a weak conference give you a lot of easy wins, it allows you do things like throw your ace against a struggling D-I team's #8 or whatever.


Just a little FYI, but I took a little excerpt from an article that was in the Wooster Daily Record just before Wooster was scheduled to play KSU the first time around. 

Quote from: Wooster Daily Record Article By CHAD CONANT Daily Record Sports WriterKent State started its season 2-4 and was swept in its opening series at Wake Forest. In two of those three games, the Flashes had every reason to believe they'd win. The bad taste lingered until a three-game series at Florida in which the Flashes won twice.

With a deep pitching staff mentored by Orrville and Wayne County Sports Hall of Famer Mike Birkbeck, the Flashes boast a big-time roster.

"In terms of talent, Kent's probably the best Div. I team in Ohio right now," Pettorini said. "I don't care what Ohio State's record is or what conference they play in, Kent's talent is better. They have some tremendous arms. We're going to see somebody good."

So, Pettorini plans on starting ace Adam Samson at Kent State and will use freshman starter Matt Barnes at some point. Though he wouldn't say definitively what the plan is, Pettorini did say he'd like to let Samson stretch out and see what he could do. In an ideal world for Wooster, that would mean Samson going deep, giving the ball to Barnes, then handing a lead to freshman closer Mark Miller to finish things.


Conant was actually pretty prophetic in that last statement as that is exactly how the game ended up playing out! 8)

Kent may be struggling, but they are still a very talented Div. I baseball team.  And as far as the pitcher goes that Wooster faced, it was his 1st loss as a collegian.  He was 6-0 as a freshman last season and he was 1-0 on the year this season, so he must not be all that bad.

It just kills me how you continue to belittle Wooster every chance you get.  Beating KSU was a great accomplishment not only for Wooster, but for Div. III baseball as well.  How would it have looked if Wooster went up to Kent yesterday with their lofty record and got hammered by the Flashes?  What Wooster did yesterday is continue to prove that there is talent at the Div. III level.  And all you can do is cry about how nice it must be for Wooster to throw their ace midweek in a non conference game.  I guess you continue to prove that there is a reason why your Karma count is now nearing the century mark in the wrong direction! ::)

One other thing yesterday's Wooster win might do is force Kent St. to reconsider playing the Scots as this is the 2nd time Wooster has beaten the Golden Flashes having beaten them in 2003 as well! ;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 19, 2007, 09:39:55 AM
Spence,

   So if Wooster can throw their Ace mid-week they can use him only sparingly on the weekend which forces them to throw somebody lower in the rotation on the weekend which evens things out a little. 
   Wooster just continues to win.  Sure they're supposed to win, but how many teams lose game's their not supposed to win? Many.
   Stop whining, what do you want Wooster to do?????
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 19, 2007, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 19, 2007, 09:39:55 AM
Spence,

   So if Wooster can throw their Ace mid-week they can use him only sparingly on the weekend which forces them to throw somebody lower in the rotation on the weekend which evens things out a little. 
   Wooster just continues to win.  Sure they're supposed to win, but how many teams lose game's their not supposed to win? Many.
   Stop whining, what do you want Wooster to do?????

They're playing Hiram on Sat/Sun, it doesn't really matter who they throw and if they wanted to they could bring back Samson on Sunday anyway. The D-I teams never throw anything good in games like this, so it really doesn't end up meaning a whole lot IMO. I knew the Wooster people would be bragging it up, so I brought up the obvious before there could be six posts about how Wooster's such hot stuff. I still don't think they've been opposed by an ace starting pitcher of a solid team all year.

I love how all the Wooster fans are crowing about this. They've beaten Ohio State and Kent State in a similar situation before, didn't help them in D-III. I don't really see it as being a great anything for D-III. When Marietta beat Ashland, a D-II national qualifier a couple years ago, was that a great win for Division III? It doesn't really do much nationally because most casual D-I fans aren't following Kent State. If someone went and beat an SEC or ACC or Pac 10 team it might be different.

I completely disagree with Pettorini's assessment of Kent State being the most talented team in Ohio. If they were, they'd be better than 15-20 and 6-6 in the MAC. I think the folks in Oxford would disagree with Pettorini, not to mention Columbus.

Doubt it's going to happen because of the schedule they've faced lately, but I'd laugh my butt off if Heidelberg beat Wooster right after Wooster won the Ohio State championship over Kent or so they think.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 19, 2007, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 19, 2007, 05:51:33 PM
Doubt it's going to happen because of the schedule they've faced lately, but I'd laugh my butt off if Heidelberg beat Wooster right after Wooster won the Ohio State championship over Kent or so they think.
Sorry to ruin all your fun, but Wooster beat the Berg 5-2.  But we all know that the only reason Wooster won is because of the Berg's brutal schedule of late?! ::)

Quote from: Spence on April 18, 2007, 07:53:37 PM
Unfortunately Heidelberg doesn't have the same luxury, having played six games since Fri and playing Otterbein this weekend.

These are the kinds of things that aren't taken into consideration at the end of the year that should be. Not only does a weak conference give you a lot of easy wins, it allows you do things like throw your ace against a struggling D-I team's #8 or whatever.
What annoys me most about you is that you seem to always be inferring that it's Wooster's fault for all of the scheduling that goes on.  Like scheduling is not a two way street or something.  As if Heidelberg had no say in when they were going to play Wooster?!

I don't even know why I'm wasting my time with you anyways!  You just grind and grind until I just have to respond to your uninsightful posts!  It sure is nice to have you gracing our presence continually annoying more and more posters as you go!! ::)

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 19, 2007, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 19, 2007, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 19, 2007, 09:39:55 AM
I knew the Wooster people would be bragging it up, so I brought up the obvious before there could be six posts about how Wooster's such hot stuff. I still don't think they've been opposed by an ace starting pitcher of a solid team all year.

I love how all the Wooster fans are crowing about this.

That's right, our team has lost 1 game all year so we're supposed to just shut up and not get excited about a good season.  Makes a whole lot of sense.  How would your beloved OAC teams done against Kent State?  Why are they not scheduling the DI teams?  You're absolutely ignorant.   
What should I expect from a weather man when weather men/women are wrong 50% of the time.
I know KSU and OSU are not going to throw their ace mid week against a DIII team but their still a team full of DI guys that are on a DI team for a reason.  Just as Wooster has a team full of DIII guys for a reason. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 19, 2007, 08:19:27 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 19, 2007, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 19, 2007, 05:51:33 PM
Doubt it's going to happen because of the schedule they've faced lately, but I'd laugh my butt off if Heidelberg beat Wooster right after Wooster won the Ohio State championship over Kent or so they think.
Sorry to ruin all your fun, but Wooster beat the Berg 5-2.  But we all know that the only reason Wooster won is because of the Berg's brutal schedule of late?! ::)

Quote from: Spence on April 18, 2007, 07:53:37 PM
Unfortunately Heidelberg doesn't have the same luxury, having played six games since Fri and playing Otterbein this weekend.

These are the kinds of things that aren't taken into consideration at the end of the year that should be. Not only does a weak conference give you a lot of easy wins, it allows you do things like throw your ace against a struggling D-I team's #8 or whatever.
What annoys me most about you is that you seem to always be inferring that it's Wooster's fault for all of the scheduling that goes on.  Like scheduling is not a two way street or something.  As if Heidelberg had no say in when they were going to play Wooster?!

I don't even know why I'm wasting my time with you anyways!  You just grind and grind until I just have to respond to your uninsightful posts!  It sure is nice to have you gracing our presence continually annoying more and more posters as you go!! ::)

Boy Wooster and their mighty offense sure did hammer around Heidelberg's #5 or so. Hamman after today still has an ERA over 7 and only gave up 4 hits in 7 IP. Wooster got 2 in the 8th against a guy with an ERA of 8.

Remember something I said about this not being a typical Wooster team offensively? But when you play Oberlin, Allegheny, Hiram and Kenyon to get to the postseason, you can get away with not scoring a lot because you don't need your aces to pitch to win conference games.

I don't necessarily have a problem with Wooster's schedule, I have a problem with the D-III baseball community's refusal to understand or even acknowledge its role in Wooster's record, both in the conference games and in their ability to engineer favorable matchups in the non-conference. I'm sure they'll probably do the same thing to Otterbein next week.

To me, to be recognized as #1, you should have to beat someone on even terms. If these rankings were done in the manner of a D-I basketball poll, Wooster would be well down in them because they haven't played anyone to be able to prove anything; like a Nevada or Winthrop. Oral Roberts didn't get ranked #1 because they won 50 games a couple years back in baseball. Yet for some reason in D-III we just don't even look at the competition a team beats to attain a given record.

But hey...Wooster was ranked #1 much of last season and showed why they were in the regional.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 19, 2007, 08:21:26 PM
Because Wooster is the only team to EVER underachieve once they got to the post-season.  Yep..that's it.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 19, 2007, 08:28:38 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 19, 2007, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 19, 2007, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 19, 2007, 09:39:55 AM
I knew the Wooster people would be bragging it up, so I brought up the obvious before there could be six posts about how Wooster's such hot stuff. I still don't think they've been opposed by an ace starting pitcher of a solid team all year.

I love how all the Wooster fans are crowing about this.

That's right, our team has lost 1 game all year so we're supposed to just shut up and not get excited about a good season.  Makes a whole lot of sense.  How would your beloved OAC teams done against Kent State?  Why are they not scheduling the DI teams?  You're absolutely ignorant.   
What should I expect from a weather man when weather men/women are wrong 50% of the time.
I know KSU and OSU are not going to throw their ace mid week against a DIII team but their still a team full of DI guys that are on a DI team for a reason.  Just as Wooster has a team full of DIII guys for a reason. 


Otterbein did schedule Ohio as their first game of the year, but threw a whole staff game as did Ohio. I don't really see a reason to schedule D-I teams to be honest; you know you're not going to get their best effort, it's not going to help you in D-III as far as postseason.

I resent your implication that D-I players are inherently superior to D-III ones, even if they're on a mediocre team.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 19, 2007, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 19, 2007, 08:21:26 PM
Because Wooster is the only team to EVER underachieve once they got to the post-season.  Yep..that's it.

Because this board was so accepting of my analysis last year which turned out to be dead solid 100% perfect.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 20, 2007, 09:46:22 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 19, 2007, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 19, 2007, 08:21:26 PM
Because Wooster is the only team to EVER underachieve once they got to the post-season.  Yep..that's it.

Because this board was so accepting of my analysis last year which turned out to be dead solid 100% perfect.
What's that saying about a blind squirrel?? ::)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 20, 2007, 10:58:57 AM
Did you notice how Otterbein scheduled Wooster on the 24th?  Otterbein is coming off 3 days rest while Wooster has 1 day of rest following back to back doubleheaders. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 20, 2007, 11:50:34 AM
Allow me to beat Spence to the punch, but I'm sure he will still say that it is Wooster's advantage because Ott has a conference DH the next day vs. Northern.  So, obviously the evil geniuses at Wooster schemed once again to get the schedule in their favor? ::)

The biggest thing that irks me about Spence's constant whining is that he is whining about regular season nonconference games!!!  Do they really have that much significance?  I guess when you're talking regional rankings, they might have some impact, but, given the fact that there is no longer home field in the playoffs with RHIT seeming to be the hosts year in and year out, those rankings really don't mean a whole lot IMO!  And if these teams were half as worried about this as Spence seems to be, they always have the option of not putting Wooster on the shedule!!!  It's not like Wooster is forcing these OAC teams to put them on their schedules!!!  Please! Give it a rest already!!!

The bottom line is that these OAC teams should not be worried too much with whether or not they lose to Wooster in the regular season (which I'm quite positive that Spence does enough for everyone  ::))!  They should only be focused on the OAC.  Beating Wooster isn't going to get them a ticket into the post-season.  There is only one way to do that and that is winning the OAC tournament.  All the other playoff contenders can do is wait and see if they get a pool C.  With that said, your constant whining about the subject of Wooster and their so-called unfair scheduling tactics is getting really really tired!!!

With the expanded tournament field, my guess would be that there is a high probability of the OAC still getting 2 teams into the tournament.  Right now, I would say, IMO that there are basically 3 teams fighting for those 2 spots and that would include Ott, 'Etta and the Berg.  My hunch would be that whomever makes the conference finals should be in, unless it's someone other than the 3 favorites.  That is why seeding is going to be huge for the OAC.  Two of these three are going to have to faceoff in the conference semis with the loser likely done.  Whoever comes out on top of the OAC regular season will have a decided advantage in their road to the NCAA's.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 20, 2007, 02:32:23 PM
Woohoo! -100!

(steps up to the microphone after getting his -100th karma point)...

"I'd like to thank all the members of the NCAC message board for making this honor possible, and for contributing greatly to this milestone of negative karma. I hope they'll support me in my quest for -200."

OK now that that's done...

Decent point I guess on it not really mattering that much. But it does matter for seeding and in a 7 team tournament, in spite of it not really bearing itself out that way so far, on paper the 1 seed is a big deal. IMO the Mideast regional #1 seed should be an open race between four pretty good candidates. In reality, it's already decided unless Wooster suffers a ridiculous collapse that I'm not really waiting for.

The weak conference schedule issue has been one for YEARS where NCAC teams were concerned. Even when Wooster, Allegheny and OWU were all pretty good they still had all those other schools to fatten up on. Hiram went from a bottom feeder in the OAC to middle of the road in the NCAC when they switched conferences. That's all you need to know, really, about the depth of the two conferences. You can play the 8th place team in the OAC and still have your hands full; you can play the 8th place team in the NCAC with your junior varsity if you're a regional-caliber team. True in basketball as well. That's why I'm always wary of big numbers by someone in that conference; sometimes they back them up (Allegheny '95, Wooster '97, late 90s/early 00s Ohio Wesleyan even though they never made the series on account of being the unluckiest team I think I have ever seen), others not.

Let me ask this question: before the season started, based on games that have actually been played, how many losses would you have thought  Wooster might have at this point? The absolute highest number of D-III losses I would have given them is 4 (Heidelberg, UWSP, Rowan and Messiah) with 2 of those being games they most likely still should win. Rowan has turned out to be not their normal selves, but before the year I would have though Rowan was capable of a win. My point is they basically had scheduled no worse than about a 25-4.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 20, 2007, 09:58:57 PM
First time poster.
Spence, why are you so jaded by Wooster baseball???? Take pride in the fact that Marietta will be the benchmark of DIII baseball in Ohio until a school equals or exceeds their 4 titles.
As far as scheduling goes, I'm sure the coaches tell the AD's who they would like to play. The AD's are responsible to fill in the dates. When doing this I'm sure they are not looking for favorable pitching match-ups. So what if my #1 goes against your#4, its a baseball season. Put your best available team on the field and play the game. Every coach would like to trot their horse out to the mound every game but baseball doesn't work that way.
Wooster is probably over rated when it comes to the polls. I can't understand how a team goes from the 15th rung on the ladder to the first without touching another on the way up. The NCAA tourney will work that out. Remember, stats, polls, W's and L's mean nothing come tourney time. The championship is won on the field.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 20, 2007, 10:22:35 PM
I don't think the ADs have much in scheduling, honestly.

The wins and losses and rankings do matter in seedings (some disagree, but I think there's pretty demonstrable evidence) and are also used in recruiting. I'm sure Wooster's freshmen heard all last season about how Wooster was #1, how they were tops in the region. Just one problem; they never were the best team. They weren't second or third either. I'm sure their recruits this year are hearing the same thing. One of these days, they might actually live up to it if they keep getting great recruits based on their inflated rankings.

It also matters if Wooster would happen to somehow not win the NCAC. They've already got a ticket punched to the regional for being 29-1 and playing about five games that weren't automatic W's. Wabash is probably the worst team any of the regional contenders have lost to since early March, but that doesn't matter. So, in that scenario, Wooster would in that case take away a bid from someone else even though they would have done very little to show that they belong.

As for why I dislike Wooster, how long a list would you like? Really doesn't matter, as there's no way I'm putting it out on here. I'd probably get banned. Let's just say Wooster and Marietta are opposites in about every way they can be opposites.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 20, 2007, 10:42:10 PM
Spence,
I beleave national championships will sell a recruit more so than we where ranked #1.
I would like to hear why you dislike Wooster so much. Wooster's program is trying to get to where Marietta's program is.
I agree that the OAC is a stronger conference but you can't blame Wooster for a weak NCAC.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 20, 2007, 11:16:36 PM
I hope you're right about the national title vs. #1! :) I would anticipate a bump in recruiting on that, but the hay was in the barn on last year's class before the Series.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 21, 2007, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 20, 2007, 10:22:35 PM
As for why I dislike Wooster, how long a list would you like? Really doesn't matter, as there's no way I'm putting it out on here. I'd probably get banned. Let's just say Wooster and Marietta are opposites in about every way they can be opposites.
Sounds to me like you need some help?! ::) ???  Maybe a visit to the local shrink for a couch session is in order for you. 

Quote from: Spence on April 20, 2007, 10:22:35 PM
Wabash is probably the worst team any of the regional contenders have lost to since early March, but that doesn't matter.
This just shows your blind hatred towards Wooster and how you put no evidence to back up such a rediculous statement as that!!!  Since you did say early March, I took the liberty to check your opinion. 

In terms of regional contenders, I am just considering Ott, 'Etta and the Berg even though one could throw in Transy as a regional contender out of the HCAC (and an opponent that Wooster beat earlier in the year that you failed to mention as a quality win).  Starting with the preseason #1 team in the nation Otterbein, they didn't take long to not live up to their billing falling to perrenial bottom feeder Case who barely had enough bodies to field a team!  I would say that qualifies as a worse loss than Wabash!  Moving on to the Berg, they lost to Defiance who are just 10-18 overall.  It could very easily be argued that is a worse loss than Wooster losing to Wabash.  While 'Etta may not have as bad a loss as Wabash, losing to Cap and Wilmington is hardly anything to be proud of. 

And as far as Wabash being such a bad team, I think you are making the mistake of going by record alone.  They may be 10 games under 0.500, but 10 of their losses have been by 2 runs or less and 6 of their losses have been by a single run.  So it's not like they aren't competive!

Here's a thought.  Try putting up some facts to back some of your derogatory statements towards Wooster instead of continuing to spew them out like they are fact!

Lastly,

Quote from: Spence on April 20, 2007, 02:32:23 PM
Woohoo! -100!

(steps up to the microphone after getting his -100th karma point)...

"I'd like to thank all the members of the NCAC message board for making this honor possible, and for contributing greatly to this milestone of negative karma. I hope they'll support me in my quest for -200."

While I'm sure that most of your negative karma points come from right here in the NCAC board (through no fault but your own mind you), I know too that you have done quite well in offending members of the D3baseball community outside of the NCAC board to help in amassing such a fine accomplishment.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 21, 2007, 12:49:55 PM
I find it positively hilarious that you down me for lack of facts, then proceed to be wrong on almost everything.

I guess you don't consider March 10 early March to bring up the Case/Ott game. Get a calendar. Strange things happen early in the season sometimes.

Defiance is in a better conference than Wabash and has a better record. Defiance also has two wins over Rose-Hulman, one over Manchester, one over Mount St. Joseph. They don't have a great record nor have they played nationally-ranked caliber competition, but they really haven't played very many poor teams at all. Wabash didn't have a win over anyone as good as any of those 4 wins above before Wooster. Their top win would have been against Wittenberg or North Park I guess. Sorry, I don't care if you've played games within 1 or 2 runs, 11-21 and 4-9 in a mediocre conference isn't very good.

I'm still on the fence on Transy. I guess it's a decent win, but still unsure that their pitching is good enough to get them anything. They're only 3-4 in April and haven't allowed less than 5 runs in any of those games. They do have some decent wins, but most of them are of the slugfest variety that don't really get much mileage down the line in my experience. They started 13-3 against mostly middling opponents. Since then, they're 6-5 with 3 of those wins coming over Anderson.

You really show your lack of research in denigrating Capital. Capital split with Averett, Otterbein, Heidelberg, Marietta, and just beat Washington & Jefferson. They played a very challenging non-conference schedule, one of if not the best in the region. 10 of their 13 losses are by two runs or less, to borrow your stat, only they're 13-13 and have played very good opponents. If they can stand prosperity against the second division of the conference, they stand a good chance to be in the conference tournament. They've got three wins in six days over nationally ranked teams!

Is all of that enough facts for your tastes?

Wilmington is the L to pick on if there is one for Marietta. WILM can hit and field the baseball well, but their pitching is hit or miss; George in particular because of his control issues. When it's hit though, they can be tough. Didn't say it was anything to write home about, but they're definitely better than Wabash, which is all I did say. Wilmington would most likely be in the division series in the NCAC West and would be nearly a lock in the East.

Here's a thought to counter your thought. When you present demonstrably incorrect opinions you think are facts after chastising someone for their lack of facts, you look like a real dope.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 22, 2007, 07:52:43 AM
Does anyone know what happened to Wooster's Mike Barone? Noticed he is not on this years roster. I beleave this would be his senior year. Seemed to be a pretty decent player for them for 3 years.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 22, 2007, 09:51:29 AM
Wooster got the bats going on a beautiful day in Hiram (oxymoron alert) and downed the Pups 14-1 and 24-3.  Imagine the lacing they'd have put on an OAC team such as Marietta; they'd probably have put 60 or 70 runs on the board and sent them home crying.

Left field in Hiram slopes downward to the outfield fence.  Neither line even has a foul pole.  The dugouts are not large enough to hold a full team of players so about a third of them must sit on an added bench further down the baseline.  The "press box" is a card table under an awning.  There is no refreshment stand.  One can only hope that after nicely updating their indoor facility that the baseball field will be next in line.  And to the guys announcing the game: is it necessary to blare loud music between every batter?  C'mon, this is baseball, allow a little peace, quiet, and conversation!

If I'm remembering this correctly, Wooster has added two games for next Sunday: Marietta at Otterbein followed by Otterbein at Otterbein.  The Otterbein game, according to the Otterbein website, is slated for a 4 PM start.  No doubt both schools (and I use the term lightly) were bullied into playing these games by those at Wooster, and I feel for them, I really do.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 22, 2007, 11:05:41 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 22, 2007, 09:51:29 AMAnd to the guys announcing the game: is it necessary to blare loud music between every batter?  C'mon, this is baseball, allow a little peace, quiet, and conversation!

I'm glad I'm not the only one annoyed by this practice. I have seen 4 games of local schools at 4 different facilities this year and they all do the same crap. It's like being at an NBA game. Blech.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Nonbiased Observer on April 22, 2007, 12:35:14 PM
To me, the railing against the Wooster schedule is a simple thing to fix: Do what you did last year and beat them when it counts.

People can claim all they want that you can recruit to what your seed always is. While that's true, if you can routinely beat them as Spence claims, then you have the ultimate trump card.

And by the way, Kent's regulars played.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on April 22, 2007, 01:34:42 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 22, 2007, 09:51:29 AM
Wooster got the bats going on a beautiful day in Hiram (oxymoron alert) and downed the Pups 14-1 and 24-3.  Imagine the lacing they'd have put on an OAC team such as Marietta; they'd probably have put 60 or 70 runs on the board and sent them home crying.


It's obvious that you don't get along with Spence on this board, but is a comment like this really necessary considering there are other OAC and Marietta fans around?  Just wondering.  I've read  a lot of your comments over the last few years and it's obvious that you know what you're talking about and are very faithful to your team, which is a good thing. 
Being a Marietta grad though, I'm pretty sure if you spent any time whatsoever around the late Coach Schaly, or the outstanding program he built, you wouldn't take all of your frustrations against Spence out on Marietta itself.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 22, 2007, 03:01:10 PM
Eh it's not like anyone that follows the OAC would or should believe that dreck. Heck Hiram left our league for one in which they could be more competitive, the NCAC. We came out ahead, picking up Wilmington, who is better in practically every sport, and has better weather :)

The funny thing is that the comment couldn't be any further from the truth. The OAC's last place team -- Muskingum is 18-12 overall with a split of Denison who may be in the NCAC championship series. They beat Hiram 21-1, 18-2, so maybe Wooster's no better than the worst team in the OAC? (No I don't really believe that; just demonstrating absurdity by being just as absurd). The fish are 1-9 against the OAC, 5-2 against the NCAC.

There are three teams in the NCAC with winning records: Wooster, Wittenberg and Ohio Wesleyan. That's it. Wittenberg is 1-4 against the OAC, FYI.

To argue that the depth of the OAC is less than the NCAC is ridiculous, and I don't think he was seriously doing so.

I think he was just trolling.

Too bad Boydsworld doesn't do season updates of the ISRs for D-III. They've done season end ones the last 3 years. I'm working my way through them right now to do conference rankings.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 22, 2007, 06:59:09 PM
Mideastfan -

Of course I don't believe what I wrote when I compared Hiram to an OAC team.  Why would you even take such a comment seriously?  I make one obviously absurd yet sarcastic remark about your league and you jump on me.  We Wooster fans have had to listen to Spence for two years.  Wonder how you'd like that if he was as anti-Marietta as he is anti-Wooster?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 22, 2007, 08:43:09 PM
I'm not anti-anyone...ok maybe a little in that the two programs are rivals and opposites outside of that. But I don't say anything about Wooster or the NCAC that isn't true as far as I believe and I certainly don't say anything absurd for the sole purpose of being inflammatory.

My honest opinion on Wooster is that there's no way to know how good they are right now, and based on that it's pretty tough to say they're the best in the nation, or even the region. Unfortunately, it's pretty much what we're stuck with, since even a #1 vs. #3 matchup with Otterbein or #2 vs. #5 against Denison isn't really going to tell us that much.



Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 22, 2007, 09:35:29 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 20, 2007, 10:22:35 PMAs for why I dislike Wooster, how long a list would you like? Really doesn't matter, as there's no way I'm putting it out on here. I'd probably get banned. Let's just say Wooster and Marietta are opposites in about every way they can be opposites.

Not anti-Wooster?  You dislike Wooster as much as I dislike Bush Republicans.  Believe me, my reasons are considerably more legitimate and I'm not afraid to list them.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 23, 2007, 01:44:28 AM
Be that as it may, I don't make up things that are just demonstrably wrong for the purpose of getting people riled up.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 23, 2007, 08:23:10 AM
Spence-
  So why do you spend so much time on the NCAC board again? 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 24, 2007, 01:07:30 PM
I post to a lot of boards.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on April 24, 2007, 03:07:28 PM
Wooster is once again ranked #1 in the updated poll.  As much as I'd like to see Marietta in the top spot, I DO ENJOY seeing another Ohio team at the top; whether it be Wooster, Otterbein, or Ohio Wesleyan in year past.

It shows the rest of the D3 baseball population that the mideast region (and Ohio in particular) is truly the most talented region out there.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 24, 2007, 03:21:26 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 22, 2007, 08:43:09 PM
My honest opinion on Wooster is that there's no way to know how good they are right now,

I think what Spence is implying is that since they are winning all these games, they have not really shown just how good they can be.   
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 24, 2007, 07:34:04 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 24, 2007, 03:21:26 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 22, 2007, 08:43:09 PM
My honest opinion on Wooster is that there's no way to know how good they are right now,

I think what Spence is implying is that since they are winning all these games, they have not really shown just how good they can be.   

Well kind of. If they were 33-1 in the OAC or another power conference, then we'd know because that's really hard to do throwing all your top pitchers in the conference games, some of which are midweek, and just doing what you can to put pitchers out there in the non-conference.

The NCAC was an upper second tier conference but took a big step down last year with Allegheny's collapse and Denison's step back. I wouldn't be surprised if they're down even from that this year when the post-season ISRs come out.

Last year Wooster went 38-9 but was only ranked #26 at the end of the year in the ISRs. New Jersey was 38-8 and ranked #1. That's the difference in schedules.

Right now what they've done seems like an Alvernia or Johns Hopkins. It's just tough to tell if they're better than that or not, and it's really going to be pretty tough for them to prove otherwise until regionals.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 24, 2007, 08:31:13 PM
Wooster have had monster players for a few years and sometimes, the team relaxes and expects them to carry the team.  Wooster might be finding their success lies with their team play.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 25, 2007, 12:07:12 PM
Wooster drops a 5-3 decision in 12 to Otterbein on 4/24. Woo web site has a DH vs Marietta on Sunday posted.
Jim, you may be right but, big time players need to elevate their game at crunch time.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 25, 2007, 12:16:16 PM
A good ballgame at Wooster yesterday afternoon, Otterbein prevailing 5-3 in twelve innings.  The Scots had lots of chances early, in that they hit lots of hard balls right at people plus left tons of baserunners on.  Once, however, Otterbein reliever Trevor Horn came on Wooster could do nothing with him.  He's a mountain who throws hard and pitched 5.1 very strong innings.

The saga of Wooster's upcoming schedule continues to unfold.  Tonight's game at Denison has been pushed back to tomorrow night due to the weather.  This weekend now has the Scots hosting Marietta on Sunday for a doubleheader starting at noon.  Hopefully this will pan out, but Marietta has league DHs scheduled for tomorrow at Muskingum and at Marietta Saturday against Heidelberg.  If either of those run into weather problems, the embattled Wooster-Marietta contests will probably die on the vine.

Baseball caps are a personal item.  Most players bend the bill in a gentle curve.  Some put a single sharp crease right in the middle, as former Wooster player Trevor Uban did.  Years ago, I used to put two firm creases in my bill, creating a flat surface in the middle with both sides angling slightly down.

Then there's Wooster's freshman reliever Mark Miller.  The bill on his cap resembles the Bonneville salt flats; wide, flat, untouched and pristine.  You could race cars on it.  One can picture Miller walking by the box of new hats last winter, snagging one, and without a glance at it sticking it on his head.  It probably hasn't come off.  Some guys are into style, others just want the ball.  Miller is definitely in the latter camp, much more interested in the movement on his fastball then the shape of the bill on his cap.  Gimme a staff of guys like Mark Miller and I'll go to war with anybody.    
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on April 25, 2007, 12:51:51 PM
Miller sounds like a gamer. 

Personally, I'd take 9 Trevor Urban's any day, that guy knew how to play the game.  He was part of some great Wooster teams in the late 90's that battled Marietta, Ohio Wesleyan and Alleghney each year in some of the best regionals at Pioneer Park and Canton.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 25, 2007, 01:35:52 PM
Big win for Otterbein and the OAC.

Ratliff has an ERA of 5.87 after that game, btw. He's at best their #3. Trapuzzano's at worst Wooster's #2.

Looks from the box and pbp that both teams could have scored several more runs. Otterbein had more hits and extra base hits, Wooster more walks and hit by pitch.

Overall a pretty close game, which I think should have been expected considering the matchups.

I would like to have seen the Ohio Dominican-Marietta game made up before Wooster; the Marietta program has a lot more connection to ODU and Coach Page and ODU is probably the better ballclub at 32-8 and ranked 13th in NAIA. Plus it's a home game.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 25, 2007, 03:47:21 PM
WB, times have certainly changed. I came from the Bob Morgan era. No room for self expression in his book. Pants were to be cuffed just below the knees, sturrup socks? pulled no higher than mid-shin, hair trimmed off the ears and collar, and no facial hair. He was a my way or highway kind of guy.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 25, 2007, 04:22:58 PM
We all used to wear the stirrup socks over sani-socks.  The stirrups were cut in half at the bottom and a piece of elastic was sewn in giving them more length.  They were then pulled up really high, almost Frank Robinson style, so it was basically a dark stripe on each side of your leg.  I thought that looked much better than how it's done now, with the pants coming down all the way to the shoes.  We could bunt, too. :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 25, 2007, 06:29:09 PM
Spence, their #3 beating our #2? I wish you would get off angle. How about two good teams competing hard to win regardless of pitching stats. You failed to mention the 5 plus  relief innings by Otterbein's Horn.  He gave up one hit, great job. If the schedule pans out, I think the last week of Wooster's regular season will tell how far they could go in the tourney.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 25, 2007, 08:43:23 PM
Why would I get off angle? It's worth mentioning that Otterbein left its top two pitchers on the shelf and got a win over what in the opinion of the ABCA is the top team in the country and the Mideast Region at their house. We saw what Remenowsky did last year to a better hitting lineup than this year's Wooster. And I'm not so sure Trapuzzano's not better than Samson; he doesn't strike out as many but he doesn't give away baserunners.

No I didn't fail to mention it Horn's relief appearance. I never intended to mention it. It wasn't part of what I was talking about. I was talking about starting pitchers.

Maybe Horn has improved. I wouldn't know; we didn't see. Otterbein threw their best against us and neither game was close enough to require a closer. But we had 8 hits in 6 innings against him last year. Y'all got 1 hit in 5 1/3 (cue Bob Uecker) and your only good chance to score on him was created by him (walk, WP, WP). He did only give up one run, but one could surmise that was a bit of good fortune, as was Otterbein's record against all last year. In the last game, the luck caught up with Horn and Ott.

As for the rest of the season, I'm sure it'll be nice to throw Samson and Trapuzzano against not even midweek guys. Marietta'll be down to #5 and #6 at the best (haven't heard if Baumler is available yet; if he's not I don't even know who would throw the 2nd game against Wooster, since we've only had 6 guys start), lower if they have to use relievers in the conference games, which are all vitally important. If Marietta goes 4-0, Otterbein needs to go 4-0 to host the conference tournament which would include sweeping at John Carroll. It would be nice to not have to go to Westerville for the fourth time in two years.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Nonbiased Observer on April 25, 2007, 09:25:37 PM
Spence,

I don't know that a 12-inning game gives us anny indication of which team is better. To me, it seems like a 12-iinning game might indicate the teams were even.

And Wooster left 11 in scoring position in that game, from what I read.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 25, 2007, 09:33:09 PM
If I'm Wooster's coach I don't pitch Samson or Trap against Etta or Otterbein. Why give them a look at what they might face at the regionals. Last year Woo played Otterbein twice during the season without facing their ace. Then in the regionals he shut them down.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 25, 2007, 10:48:08 PM
Quote from: Nonbiased Observer on April 25, 2007, 09:25:37 PM
Spence,

I don't know that a 12-inning game gives us anny indication of which team is better. To me, it seems like a 12-iinning game might indicate the teams were even.

And Wooster left 11 in scoring position in that game, from what I read.

May be true, they left 15 total I know. They didn't leave much in the last several innings because there wasn't much to leave.

If someone wanted to argue that Otterbein's mid-week pitching and Wooster's top pitching constitutes even teams, I probably wouldn't disagree.

And I doubt it matters too much that Wooster has seen Remenowsky before if they meet again. He's really good. If he were left-handed he might be in High-A or AA ball.

It seems evident that Wooster is chasing every win they can this season, and I can't really say I blame them. The #1 seed is big in a 7 team format, even though it didn't help them last year, and one could also say that if Wooster sweeps Marietta, then that might help kill Marietta's chances of a Pool C bid (not saying it should, just that it might). So those are reasons to throw your best.

Of course, you could lose to Denison and John Carroll throwing your down the line stuff, then get beat with your best and be SOL. But that's a chance worth taking, I imagine.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Nonbiased Observer on April 25, 2007, 10:54:59 PM
I don't know Spence. You seem to have a misplaced problem with Wooster. They can only play who is on their schedule. It's not that team's fault the NCAC stinks.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 25, 2007, 11:52:30 PM
I would counter by saying they can only be judged on what they do against who they play. I don't see how a team that's played only 5-7 games against anything resembling competition can be ranked #1 in the nation or #1 in the region when teams like Otterbein are in it. But chances are they'll still be tops in the region even though Otterbein beat them at Wooster despite being at a pitching disadvantage.

I'm not blaming anyone for anything. I'm calling it like I see it. The last two non-conference games they haven't exactly set the world on fire against good OAC teams throwing their off pitching. The offense has scored 13 runs in their last 4 non-divisional games. They've got 43 home runs in 35 games, but take a guess how many they have against the better Mideast region teams they've played? (OWU, Transy, Baldwin-Wallace, Heidelberg, Otterbein) Was 0 your guess? They hit more than half their homers (28) in 13 games against the NCAC East and Case Western.

They've got decent top-end pitching. Trapuzzano has done what he does against everyone for two years. To me he's their most proven commodity against high-end competition. Samson blew away Anderson and Ohio Wesleyan early in the year and their weaker opponents and of course Kent State, which FWIW only scored 3 the day before against Malone. I'm thinking going into a big series against Miami they weren't real focused on a pair of non D-I midweek games. Just my guess.

We don't know about much else pitching-wise. They've got nice numbers, but Barnes got torn up against Stevens Point, and DeGrand labored against Rowan (in a game Barnes did throw well in as a reliever). For those two, there's not really much else to look at against the type of competition they'll see in the postseason or would see in the OAC. Otterbein hit Miller and only struck out once and he walked two against Heidelberg before getting a double play. Miller's thrown well in a few other games against decent to good opponents (Baldwin-Wallace, albeit it was just about dark late in that game, UWSP) He seems to be used strictly as a relief guy, but might be their third best pitcher.

I guess time will tell how misplaced I am. Turn back the clock a year and see what i was saying and all the static I got. And, most importantly, the result.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Nonbiased Observer on April 25, 2007, 11:56:07 PM
Like I said, if they're not good, beat them when it counts.

But, they don't seem to be all that awful.

You just seem to have misplaced angst against either the Wooster team or the system.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 26, 2007, 12:12:51 AM
Shrug last year we never got the chance, which is fine. I wouldn't care if we never played them.

Call it whatever you want. I'm just tired of seeing certain teams, and Wooster is one but not the only one, consistently overranked in the regular season while living up to it far fewer times. The problem with the "beat them when it counts" mantra is that they've still gained ground they didn't earn with their ranking, prestige, seeding, whatnot.

On the flipside of that, I'm equally tired of seeing teams that take some losses in solid leagues and against challenging non conference schedules not given credit for it.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 26, 2007, 09:47:44 AM
And I'm equally tired of hearing you fill the NCAC board with your constant whining!!! ::)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 26, 2007, 12:58:03 PM
Other people apparently aren't, since they keep replying to me and furthering discussion.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 26, 2007, 02:00:46 PM
I'm tired of you too, Spence, very much so.

Much of what you write has a basis in fact.  Wooster's league is indeed weak, weaker even than in recent years.  Because of this, the Scots have been able to throw their top of the line pitchers against non-league opponents.  I'd say that Wooster probably is somewhat overrated and that it's not at all clear how well they'll do in the NCAAs.

But this is all common knowledge.  Virtually everybody that reads this board is aware of this and does not need you to continually attempt to shove it down their throats.  Your tone is what sets you apart; it contains a dislike of Wooster and it's program that I find abhorrent, especially since when pushed to the pine you refuse to put forth any reasons.

You blame the Wooster program for things that it has no control over.  Is it Wooster's fault that their league is weak?  Of course not, and you know that.  Is it their fault that they are possibly a bit overrated by the pollsters?  Not at all, but one would think so from reading your posts. 

Does Wooster manipulate the schedule to obtain an advantage?  Hell no, it takes two to tango, and when a game is lined up no one has been coerced to play it.  In order to level the playing field, should Wooster throw second-line pitchers in their non-league games when their front-line guys are rested and ready to go?  Heck no, they're going out there to play to win, just as their opponents are.

Spence, fifty years ago, well before the internet, conversations such that take place in this forum generally occurred in neighborhood taverns.  Imagine you, as a Giants' fan, bellying up to some bar in Brooklyn and spouting off, as you do here regarding Wooster, about how the Dodger organization completely sucks.  You'd last about two minutes before some truck driver or cabby either broke your nose or, if you were luckier, gave you the bum's rush out the door.

You epitomize one of the major problems with the internet.  Anyone can pretty much say anything anywhere.   While that may sound well and good on the surface, unfortunately it comes with this little tidbit.  No one is accountable for their actions. Here, all you need is a thick skin and persistance and you can annoy everyone to no end.  You've had lots of success at doing that over the last two years.

But believe me, the vast majority of readers of this forum know you for what you are and would be very happy to see you move on to some other locale.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 26, 2007, 05:36:44 PM
What you see as a problem I see as a virtue. Free speech is what has traditionally set America apart and the Internet is our importation of that virtue to the world.

It's your prerogative to believe it or not. Just like you don't have to listen to a guy on the street corner, or in the grocery line, or on television. If you don't think I have a clue about what I'm talking about (that would be foolhardy, but whatever), fine. Skip the post.

I think that's the first time I've seen anyone on here allow that Wooster might be overrated in 1 1/2 seasons.

As for it being common knowledge what I say, if it is then why do you all react so defensively when I say it? And why does Wooster keep getting ranked #1 and getting top seeds? I'd say it's not as common as you think.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 26, 2007, 11:05:53 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 26, 2007, 05:36:44 PM
What you see as a problem I see as a virtue. Free speech is what has traditionally set America apart and the Internet is our importation of that virtue to the world.

Free speech means "free from prior restraint". It does NOT mean "free from consequences" (e.g. karma like Bush's approval rating).

Both you and Don Imus are great examples of that.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 26, 2007, 11:32:37 PM
I'm well aware of what it doesn't mean.

However, the worst consequences of being honest and steadfast so far has been a negative karma rating. I sleep just fine at night.

I really doubt you want to hear my take on Don Imus.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 27, 2007, 03:39:35 AM
You've been steadfast but far short of honest, your comments on Wooster's scheduling being a prime example.  And the fact that we're only able to hit you with negative karma points rather than the left hooks that you would surely receive in a Brooklyn bar is exactly my point.

I've said this before and I'll say it again.  I don't give a flying hoot if you come in here and claim that Wooster can't hit, field, or pitch.  That's your opinion.  But you've continually taken it farther than that, insinuating that the program is somewhat less than ethical.  When called on to produce reasons, you cry foul, lamenting that if you put them forth you might be banned.  This is the behaviour that bothers me and I'm sure keeps you sleeping alone.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 27, 2007, 04:14:28 AM
WB: I'm sure there's no reason to get personal. That's hardly an appropriate response. I let the vague threats alone the first time but given your history on this board I am surprised you would choose to go back there.

There won't be another warning on this subject.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 27, 2007, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 26, 2007, 11:32:37 PM
I'm well aware of what it doesn't mean.
However, the worst consequences of being honest and steadfast so far has been a negative karma rating. I sleep just fine at night.
Weren't you involved in some sort of ban from this forum???  I'd say those were some pretty severe consequenses!  Especially since you shudder behind the excuse of being banned more than anyone else I've seen in the years I've been following D3football.com, hoops.com and now baseball.com. 

Quote from: Spence on April 26, 2007, 05:36:44 PM
As for it being common knowledge what I say, if it is then why do you all react so defensively when I say it?  And why does Wooster keep getting ranked #1 and getting top seeds? I'd say it's not as common as you think.
I'd say the reason is that you are constantly insinuating that it is somehow Wooster's fault!  Please elaborate on how Wooster is somehow responsible for the sudden decline in the NCAC and what they should have done to prevent it??  Please elaborate on how Wooster is to blame for how they are perceived in the national and regional polls??  Please elaborate on just what more Wooster could do to strengthen their nonconference schedule??  They played some traditionally strong teams during their spring trip to Florida.  Is it their fault that some of those traditionally strong teams aren't so strong this year??  And as far as nonconference regional competition, if all things continue as a go for Sunday, Wooster will have played the top 3 teams out of the regions best conference.  Not to mention, one of the top teams out of the HCAC, which you yourself touted as the 2nd best conference in the region.  And then when they do go play and BEAT a Div I opponent you come in here and play it off like Kent St must have fielded their JV squad or something!  It's things like this that make you such an irritant to many on this board!

I think Wooster has done about as much as they could in scheduling tough nonconference competition.  You don't think they realize just how weak the competition is in the NCAC??  Why do you think they make a concerted effort to schedule the top OAC teams every year?  If they were soooooo concerned about being ranked #1 Nationally and regionally as you seem to imply, it doesn't seem like such a good strategy to go out and schedule such tough competition.  They do it so they can get a true gauge on just how good they are.  Beating up on Hiram for 4 games doesn't give you a gauge.  Losing to Ott on Tuesday gave the Scots a much better gauge on where they stand!

The bottom line is that after you get all of your conference games out of the way, and after you get all of the reshuffling of the schedule thanks to springtime in Ohio out of the way, there is only so many openings that can be filled on the schedule and I think that Wooster has traditionally done about as well as could be asked of them to go out and look for the toughest nonconference competition they can get.  Which brings me to another one of my dislikes about you and that is whining about how Wooster always seems to be at a scheduling advantage when they do face nonconference opponents.  Once again, please elaborate on just what you would ask of Wooster and their coachse to do in situations like Tuesday when, God forbid, Wooster had the benefit of going with their #2 vs. Ott's #3?! :o  The horror of it all!!! 

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  Your constant vitriol towards all things Wooster has gotten very very tired!  It's not to say that some of the things you say aren't true.  It's for the countless times you seem to put Wooster in your crosshairs for things like scheduling advantages and rankings and conference strength (or lackthereof).  These are things Wooster has not and will continue to not have any control over!  I just wish you could somehow figure this out and get off of your constant whiny little soapbox over it and DEAL WITH IT!!!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 27, 2007, 10:03:07 AM
Now that my Spence rant of the week is over with, I thought I'd turn my focus back onto the NCAC like what this board is meant for.

Wooster has already secured the #1 seed for the tournament.  Out of the East, Allegheny looks to be in the driver's seat in 2nd place, but Kenyon and Oberlin are still alive mathematically.  Allegheny needs a split of their 4 game series with Kenyon this weekend to eliminate the Lords.  Taking 3 of 4 would punch the Gators ticket into the NCAC tournament.

Out west, there is a different story altogether.  There are still 3 teams alive for the 2 tournament slots available.  OWU is currently alone in 1st at 11-3 followed by Denison at 10-4.  Wittenberg checks in in 3rd with a record of 8-4.  Witt has the toughest road to haul as they have makeup DH's shceduled at OWU on Saturday and at Denison on Sunday.  All the Bishops and Big Red need is splits with Witt to ensure their entry into the NCAC tournament.  If Witt could somehow split with OWU and sweep Denison they would pass the Big Red for second.  And Witt could still win the West if they pull off the unthinkabale sweep both OWU and Denison.

Once the seedings are determined, Wooster will host the 2nd place team out of the NCAC West while the 1st place team out of the NCAC West will more than likely be hosting Allegheny.  The winners of the 2 series will meet at Denison for the NCAC Tournament Championship Series May 10-11.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Nonbiased Observer on April 27, 2007, 10:53:49 PM
Denison beat Wooster 6-5 tonight.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 30, 2007, 08:24:16 AM
Wooster managed to sweep Marietta on Sunday 14-0 and 7-3.  Marietta did not throw the best of their staff.  Baumler did throw 2/3 for MC coming off his injury.  Even though MC didn't throw their top guys I don't think that was the cause for MC's lack of offense. 
How Wooster's freshman Johnson?  He had a nice day playing short.  Coach moved sophomre Quimby to 2nd and put Johnson at 2nd.  Johnson made some nice plays and hit a homer.   
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 30, 2007, 09:35:43 AM
Johnson looked very smooth in the field and comfortable at the position.  He made all the routine plays plus started a pretty dp with a backhanded stop on a shot in the hole.  He showed some range into the outfield on popups, and was the middle man on a cutoff play that got a Marietta runner going to third.  I hope he stays at short permanently.

John Quimby, for his part, and to my eyes, looks like a better secondbaseman than shortstop.  He made the plays there yesterday, including turning dps and making a nice play going to his left.  He still drops too many ground balls, but playing on the right side you can usually live with that, and it's nice to have Quimby's bat remain in the lineup.

Thirdbaseman Dan Skulina is out with a knee injury and did not play yesterday.  Right fielder Pat Christenson, who missed the Denison game on Friday completely, DH'd yesterday.  He has a stress fracture in one of his feet and is likely reduced to only swinging the bat for the rest of the year.  That's a blow to the Scots as he's an excellent defensive right fielder.

The big positives yesterday were the performances of both Adam Samson and Anthony Trapuzzano.  Both were strong and went the distance and clearly look ready for post-season play.  I'm predicting that both Matts (Barnes and DeGrande), along with some others, will get some work at Ohio Northern on Tuesday and that Samson and Trapuzzano will go an inning or two on Wednesday against John Carroll just for a tune-up.   

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 30, 2007, 10:55:08 AM
The NCAC Tournament field is almost set.  Wooster is the top seed and still awaiting their opponent.  That opponent being either Denison or Wittenberg.  Wittenberg's postseason hopes are fading after being swept yesterday by OWU.  The Bishops clinched the NCAC West with the sweep and will host Allegheny.  The Gators clinched 2nd in the NCAC East with a spit of their 4 game series with Kenyon over the weekend. 

Denison hosts Wittenberg in a DH today to determine the final piece of the NCAC tournament puzzle.  Witt needs a sweep over Denison to keep their season alive.  All Denison needs is a split to eliminate the Tigers.  Whomever ends up finsihing 2nd will have to take on Wooster at Art Murray next weekend. 

Persnoally, I'm hoping for the Big Red to be Wooster's opponent so the Scots can exact some revenge for allowing Densison to come from behind to beat them last Friday!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 30, 2007, 10:58:18 AM
I was aware of Pat's stress fracture, which as mentioned stinks, because he has a great arem in right field.  I was not aware of Skulina's knee problem. 
Not a good time to have injuries. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 30, 2007, 12:07:17 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 30, 2007, 09:35:43 AM
Johnson looked very smooth in the field and comfortable at the position.  He made all the routine plays plus started a pretty dp with a backhanded stop on a shot in the hole.  He showed some range into the outfield on popups, and was the middle man on a cutoff play that got a Marietta runner going to third.  I hope he stays at short permanently.

John Quimby, for his part, and to my eyes, looks like a better secondbaseman than shortstop.  He made the plays there yesterday, including turning dps and making a nice play going to his left.  He still drops too many ground balls, but playing on the right side you can usually live with that, and it's nice to have Quimby's bat remain in the lineup.
I didn't have the opportunity to see the Scots on Sunday.  With the lack of too many nice days this spring, I have to jump on every nice one that comes along on the weekends to catch up with my yardwork!  Anyways, I did catch the end of game 2 on the radio yesterday and both Breckenridge and Nemeth commented on how well they liked Johnson at short and Quimby at 2nd.  They were very impressed with Johnson's play at short and they too felt that Quimby looked like a better fit at 2nd.  They even commented about how they hoped the switch was permanent.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 30, 2007, 12:47:04 PM
Tim did mention in today's DR that we should get used to seeing Johnson at short and Q. at 2nd. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 30, 2007, 06:55:57 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 30, 2007, 08:24:16 AM
Wooster managed to sweep Marietta on Sunday 14-0 and 7-3.  Marietta did not throw the best of their staff.  Baumler did throw 2/3 for MC coming off his injury.  Even though MC didn't throw their top guys I don't think that was the cause for MC's lack of offense. 

Actually it might have been, in the first game. Marietta got behind big early, so they simply had to sit back and swing rather than being able to pressure the opponent into mistakes and scratch across runs. Credit Wooster for jumping on the ball early and not giving MC that chance.

The second game went much better, but Christensen's hit off Baumler changed the game IMO. Hopefully Baumler's gotten a chance to get tuned up this week.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 01, 2007, 08:47:21 AM
Denison completes the NCAC Tournament picture with a sweep of Witt last night.  It took extras, but the Big Red scratched a run across in the bottom of the 9th in game one to secure the NCAC Tournament bid.  With the suspense over, Dension went on to win the nightcap 4-0 behind a 2 hit, 6 strikeout performance by James Clear.

So now Wooster will host Denison with a best of three series beginning sometime Saturday afternoon while OWU will be hosting Allegheny in the other NCAC semifinal series.  The winners will meet in Denison which is the host site of the best of three NCAC Championship series which is slated to begin May 10th (a week from Thursday).
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Nonbiased Observer on May 01, 2007, 04:51:28 PM
Spence,

Your coach said the thin staff doesn't excuse the defense and hitting.

When you say what you said, it sounds excuses.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 01, 2007, 05:52:25 PM
My opinion is not limited to what coach Brewer says.

I'm not even saying anything else. Most people seem to understand what you fail to grasp.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Nonbiased Observer on May 01, 2007, 09:04:00 PM
I understand just fine. I know that a thin staff can hinder the motivation. But, thin pitchers didn't make them only get three hits in the first game.

It's called credit where credit is due. As much as fine performances by your conference's players should be credited, so should Adam Samson's in the first game Sunday.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 02, 2007, 07:50:47 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 01, 2007, 05:52:25 PM
My opinion is not limited to what coach Brewer says.

I'm not even saying anything else. Most people seem to understand what you fail to grasp.

Nice job with going completely vague once again when being called out by someone?! ::)

BTW, Wooster beat an ONU team that is fresh off a DH sweep of OAC co-leaders Otterbein over the weekend.  But I'm sure it was only due to ONU being thin in pitching that contributed to the Polar Bears committing 6 errors in the contest. ::)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 02, 2007, 09:35:12 AM
Wooster's starting first baseman Sheldon Steiner did not play yesterday.  Justin Thomas started at third base but was removed in the bottom of the second inning.  I have no other information than that, but if these guys are hurt injuries are becoming a real concern for Wooster.  They've had good fortune avoiding them this season and now is not the time for that luck to change.

Starting third baseman Dan Skulina seems to be still out with a knee problem.  Starting right fielder Pat Christenson is able to swing the bat, and well, but cannot play the field.  I'll find out more today up at John Carroll.

To the lead ONU guy that did the webcast of yesterday's game: Describing virtually every batted ball as either "a big-time swing" or "up the middle" doesn't give the listener much to go on when you don't follow it up with some more information.  Your "big-time" shots varied from being routine ground balls to short to balls hit into the gap.  The "up the middle" calls ended up being anything from squibbers to the pitcher to line drive singles to center field.  You have to follow the play through after that initial statement and describe what else happens.  If it wasn't for your partner recapping each play, listerners wouldn't have had a clue as to what was going on.  It would also be nice if you gave the score more than once every three innings.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 02, 2007, 09:45:04 AM
As far as the ONU announcer goes, I'm sure it's someone who isn't all that experienced.  I've listenned to the Wooster guys before and they are very good.  You're probably in the same situation as us Marietta fans; you get so used to hearing good radio guys that when someone else who isn't even close to as good comes along, you can get a little annoyed.  I know exactly how you feel.
Wooster, Marietta and Otterbein all have good radio guys; it's probably not a coincidence that they're the best three teams in the area as well.  Good programs have nice facilities and extras (radio coverage), along with top quality coaches and players.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 02, 2007, 09:54:58 AM
Since you brought up play by play announcers, there's one thing Tom Hamilton does with the Indians that drives me nuts!  I'm a huge Tom Hamilton fan except for one thing.  Whenever someone for the Tribe hits a deep flyball, Hamilton always starts it off with either, "THERE'S A DRIVE...", or "WAAAAAAY BACK...!"  And after all the build up and excitement, it ends with, "...and it's caught on the warning track."  :P  That's why, whenever I'm listening to the Indians on the radio, I never get too excited until I hear the words GONE come from Hamilton's mouth! ;D

Other than that, I think Hamilton is one of the best play by play radio men out there in baseball!

I will agree with mideastfan in that having good play by play guys in the booth can spoil you when and if you are given no alternative but to listen to someone else.  The local radio station here in Wooster does an excellent job in covering Wooster's big 3 (football, basketball and baseball) and I'm sure many schools across the DIII sports landscape would be envious of the coverage Wooster's big 3 gets by WQKT and WKVX.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 02, 2007, 12:55:44 PM
Quote from: Nonbiased Observer on May 01, 2007, 09:04:00 PM
I understand just fine. I know that a thin staff can hinder the motivation. But, thin pitchers didn't make them only get three hits in the first game.

It's called credit where credit is due. As much as fine performances by your conference's players should be credited, so should Adam Samson's in the first game Sunday.

It's more than that. It's a complete change in the mindset of what the team is looking to do offensively when you get behind versus when you're ahead or in a close game. I remember thinking in the second game that if we kept it close, we'd pull it out. But we couldn't keep it together on the mound long enough to do that.

I distinctly remember giving Wooster credit for jumping on top and putting the pressure on Marietta, not allowing them to play their game and put pressure on the pitcher and defense.

I'm being about as fair about this as I think I can be considering the result is really indicative of nothing except what happens when Marietta plays Wooster using their JV pitching staff. Most people on this board seemed to understand that and take it for what it was.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 02, 2007, 01:34:01 PM
Yes, a team's mindset is changed when they fall behind by a few runs early.  Yes, it does limit and alter what you might want to do.  But you're still trying to produce baserunners in any manner and to knock them in if you can.  Against Samson, Marietta didn't and couldn't, not on that day.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 02, 2007, 01:36:42 PM
All true. They did get two straight hits to start the game, but a bad baserunning mistake (by a senior no less) wiped out that threat, then Wooster put up a 3 spot and sort of changed everything.

It may also be worth noting that Marietta started a lot of inexperienced players that game, and perhaps they didn't react quite as well mentally as more veteran players might to the situation.

Very pleased with how they performed in their first game back out on the field after it though! Hopefully it carries through into a potentially very big game for regional ranking at Washington & Jefferson.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: pufin on May 02, 2007, 04:15:14 PM
So now that you seem accept that it wasn't completely about your JV pitchers giving up runs you decide to blame it on the position players?

I thought Marietta was THE program in Ohio baseball? If that is the case, second- and third-string position players should be good enough to put some runs up against Wooster. Or maybe the Scots aren't that bad a ball club themselves?

I have stayed out of the back and forth with Spence all season, but it is getting tiring. All you do, Spence, is make excuses. Excuses for Marietta losses, excuses for other teams' losses to Wooster, excuses for Ohio weather, and whatever else.

Marietta didn't have to play Wooster. Neither did ONU, or any other OAC team. Wooster is trying to play the best teams that they can given that the NCAC competition, for the most part, is generally pretty weak. Do you think Wooster doesn't want more challenge from Allegheny, Hiram, and Kenyon?

Whatever your problem is with Wooster, just let it simmer inside, and try to give a more level-headed analysis of the game. I know that you are capable of it because I see it on other boards.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 02, 2007, 04:49:49 PM
Nice discussion on radio broadcasts of the upper tier DIII programs.  Student run broadcasts like at Wabash are very difficult to listen to.  Sooooooo much dead air! And very little descriptive play-by play that I'm sure my take on the game only partially reflects the real game.
It makes a few things clear: 1)radio broadcast for baseball is not easy and 2)well done radio baseball broadcast is done by very experienced baseball knowledgeable people.

All-time favorite play by play man for me is Ernie Harwell from the Tigers.  I grew up listening to that sweet voice weave a story every night as a child in the summers.  Close second only because I did not start listening to him until much later in life is Vin Scully with the Dodgers.  He has that same mastery of descriptive language told from the view of a real baseball man.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 02, 2007, 05:41:21 PM
Quote from: pufin on May 02, 2007, 04:15:14 PM
So now that you seem accept that it wasn't completely about your JV pitchers giving up runs you decide to blame it on the position players?

I thought Marietta was THE program in Ohio baseball? If that is the case, second- and third-string position players should be good enough to put some runs up against Wooster. Or maybe the Scots aren't that bad a ball club themselves?

I have stayed out of the back and forth with Spence all season, but it is getting tiring. All you do, Spence, is make excuses. Excuses for Marietta losses, excuses for other teams' losses to Wooster, excuses for Ohio weather, and whatever else.

Marietta didn't have to play Wooster. Neither did ONU, or any other OAC team. Wooster is trying to play the best teams that they can given that the NCAC competition, for the most part, is generally pretty weak. Do you think Wooster doesn't want more challenge from Allegheny, Hiram, and Kenyon?

Whatever your problem is with Wooster, just let it simmer inside, and try to give a more level-headed analysis of the game. I know that you are capable of it because I see it on other boards.

Bottom line is that Wooster has a very solid club this year and Marietta is average compared to their usual standard.   Anyone who has been around the Wooster/Marietta rivalry over the last 15 years would know this.  Marietta's pitching this year is probably the worst it's been in 30 years, so you can imagine what facing their #7 and #8 guys would be like.  They didn't have a chance to win going into the doubleheader.  That being said, maybe they'll get a shot to play Wooster in the regionals when it really counts. 
There were reasons for years and years that Wooster and Marietta didn't play during the regualr season; they just didn't run their programs the same way and neither wnated to travel to play each other, plain and simple.  With the new NCAA selection format for the regionals, it's now almost necessary to play tough regional teams.  Back in the day, a good team could play a weak schedule and rack up 35+ wins and get a bid to the regional tournament...no longer the case with all the automatic and at large bids.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 02, 2007, 06:01:54 PM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on May 02, 2007, 04:49:49 PM
All-time favorite play by play man for me is Ernie Harwell from the Tigers.  I grew up listening to that sweet voice weave a story every night as a child in the summers.  Close second only because I did not start listening to him until much later in life is Vin Scully with the Dodgers.  He has that same mastery of descriptive language told from the view of a real baseball man.

Couldn't agree with you more. Here's a blog post/column I wrote for my old job.

http://www.nbcsports.com/theob/blog/2007/04/a_generation_fades_away.html
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 02, 2007, 06:24:50 PM
Quote from: mideastfan on May 02, 2007, 05:41:21 PM
Quote from: pufin on May 02, 2007, 04:15:14 PM
So now that you seem accept that it wasn't completely about your JV pitchers giving up runs you decide to blame it on the position players?

I thought Marietta was THE program in Ohio baseball? If that is the case, second- and third-string position players should be good enough to put some runs up against Wooster. Or maybe the Scots aren't that bad a ball club themselves?

I have stayed out of the back and forth with Spence all season, but it is getting tiring. All you do, Spence, is make excuses. Excuses for Marietta losses, excuses for other teams' losses to Wooster, excuses for Ohio weather, and whatever else.

Marietta didn't have to play Wooster. Neither did ONU, or any other OAC team. Wooster is trying to play the best teams that they can given that the NCAC competition, for the most part, is generally pretty weak. Do you think Wooster doesn't want more challenge from Allegheny, Hiram, and Kenyon?

Whatever your problem is with Wooster, just let it simmer inside, and try to give a more level-headed analysis of the game. I know that you are capable of it because I see it on other boards.

Bottom line is that Wooster has a very solid club this year and Marietta is average compared to their usual standard.   Anyone who has been around the Wooster/Marietta rivalry over the last 15 years would know this.  Marietta's pitching this year is probably the worst it's been in 30 years, so you can imagine what facing their #7 and #8 guys would be like.  They didn't have a chance to win going into the doubleheader.  That being said, maybe they'll get a shot to play Wooster in the regionals when it really counts. 
There were reasons for years and years that Wooster and Marietta didn't play during the regualr season; they just didn't run their programs the same way and neither wnated to travel to play each other, plain and simple.  With the new NCAA selection format for the regionals, it's now almost necessary to play tough regional teams.  Back in the day, a good team could play a weak schedule and rack up 35+ wins and get a bid to the regional tournament...no longer the case with all the automatic and at large bids.


Heh I'm sure Schaly would have even played Wooster at home in a scheduled game.

EDIT: That was supposed to be NOT sure.

We're scuffling a little bit, but I also think the conference is as good as it has been in years. We're not the only ones splitting. Otterbein's got 3 splits, Heidelberg's got 5 I think. There just aren't very many easy games. One of our seniors was injured early and still fighting back, and the other two have struggled to hit at one point or another.

I still think a healthy Baumler makes a big difference in the postseason if he can get there. Pitrone would help as well, he threw pretty well early.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 02, 2007, 06:31:45 PM
Quote from: pufin on May 02, 2007, 04:15:14 PM
So now that you seem accept that it wasn't completely about your JV pitchers giving up runs you decide to blame it on the position players?

I thought Marietta was THE program in Ohio baseball? If that is the case, second- and third-string position players should be good enough to put some runs up against Wooster. Or maybe the Scots aren't that bad a ball club themselves?

I have stayed out of the back and forth with Spence all season, but it is getting tiring. All you do, Spence, is make excuses. Excuses for Marietta losses, excuses for other teams' losses to Wooster, excuses for Ohio weather, and whatever else.

Marietta didn't have to play Wooster. Neither did ONU, or any other OAC team. Wooster is trying to play the best teams that they can given that the NCAC competition, for the most part, is generally pretty weak. Do you think Wooster doesn't want more challenge from Allegheny, Hiram, and Kenyon?

Whatever your problem is with Wooster, just let it simmer inside, and try to give a more level-headed analysis of the game. I know that you are capable of it because I see it on other boards.

I can't believe I'm even bothering with this.

I'm not blaming anything on anyone. Offering analysis is not blame. Never have I said anything like "if we would have had (xxxx), we would have won." I haven't said that. I have said that it was a mismatch pitching-wise, and it was. I have said that getting behind early changed the team's offensive mindset, which it without doubt did, and might have gotten into the collective heads of a young lineup. And I think that's a reasonable guess, I never said it was a definite fact.

I have been level headed. You want not level headed? You want me being a jerk?

Here ya go: Two numbers for you. 11 and 1. Figure out what they mean, and after you do, don't talk smack to me again until those numbers are equal. 'Til then, you do not exist to me.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 02, 2007, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 02, 2007, 06:01:54 PM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on May 02, 2007, 04:49:49 PM
All-time favorite play by play man for me is Ernie Harwell from the Tigers.  I grew up listening to that sweet voice weave a story every night as a child in the summers.  Close second only because I did not start listening to him until much later in life is Vin Scully with the Dodgers.  He has that same mastery of descriptive language told from the view of a real baseball man.

Couldn't agree with you more. Here's a blog post/column I wrote for my old job.

http://www.nbcsports.com/theob/blog/2007/04/a_generation_fades_away.html

Thanks for the link Pat.  I enjoyed the piece a lot.  We share a lot of common experiences.  I too moved away from Michigan before the '84 season. I probably pre-date you by a couple years though. My greatest Detroit Tiger memory is attending Al Kaline's final home game at old Tiger Stadium.  Teams from the mid-late 70's were not very good, but with Harwell and Carey calling the games it didn't really matter.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 02, 2007, 08:16:29 PM
Indeed -- I was in sixth grade when that 1984 move went down.

I wonder if "my" generation is the last one to fall asleep with the transistor radio under the pillow.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 02, 2007, 09:00:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 02, 2007, 08:16:29 PM
Indeed -- I was in sixth grade when that 1984 move went down.

I wonder if "my" generation is the last one to fall asleep with the transistor radio under the pillow.

Even with all the games televised these days, it's still nice to sit outside on a summer evening and listen to a game on the radio.  I grew up a Cardinal fan, and to me nothing beat Buck and Shannon calling a Cards win over the Cubs, or Mets in the mid 80's.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 02, 2007, 10:01:48 PM
Gotta go back a few more decades for me.  I grew up listening to Mel Allen, Phil Rizzuto, and Red Barber calling the Yankee games.  Although being a kid I liked them all at the time, in retrospect I think Allen was too much of a homer and Rizzuto played the wide-eyed kid role all too well.  Barber, although maybe a bit past his prime by the time he moved to the Yankees, was a superb announcer when he did the Brooklyn Dodgers.  I liked Harwell a lot, although didn't get to listen to him all that much.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 03, 2007, 09:52:07 AM
My grandma listens to all the Indians games on the radio these days.  Her eyesight is poor due to being a diabetic.  The somewhat funny thing is that my grandpa is hard at hearing.  So when I'm there during an Indians game my grandma is in one room with the radio on and my grandpa is in the other with the tv turned up REALLY LOUD.  We get to hear each play twice because of the delay.   :P

I too enjoy listening to a game on the radio more than watching on tv, but my wife has really enjoyed watching tribe games with me of late on tv so I'll take that.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 03, 2007, 11:12:17 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 02, 2007, 08:16:29 PM
I wonder if "my" generation is the last one to fall asleep with the transistor radio under the pillow.
Include me in that generation.  I didn't get hooked on baseball until my family returned to northeast Ohio in the early 80's.  Growing up in Florida and Texas my favorite team was the Pirates, because their spring training facilities were near where I lived and it was during the 'We Are Family' days.  We then moved to Dallas where my passion became all things Dallas Cowboys.  The Rangers were good for a game or two to go watch in the summer, but I never really got into them. 

It wasn't until we moved back to Ohio that my passion for baseball and the Indians took off.  And that is when I was introduced to listening to Herb Score calling Tribe games in bed and hoping against all hope that this was the year the Indians would finally do something.  And occasionally, the Indians would hang around until August or so getting everyone worked up, only to flatline and be 10-20 games out by the end of September?!

I guess that is what I love most about baseball.  Every fan of every team can share in the excitement of not knowing what a new season will bring (unless your a Royals fan? :P).  Look at what the Tigers did last year.  They went from a team that lost almost 100 games in '05 to the World Series!  I'm just hoping, with the good start that the Tribe has gotten off to, that they might be this year's Detroit Tigers!!! 8)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 03, 2007, 11:39:03 AM
The best news in yesterday's Wooster victory at JCU was that Steiner and Thomas both played.  It turns out that neither had been injured at all.  Also, Rob Skulina returned and saw some action at third base.  Various pitchers saw some action and the Scots staff is poised for the 2 out of 3 series against Denison that begins at 1 PM on Saturday at Art Murray Field.

Larry Miller, here's hoping that you found out what you were supposed to do at which Subway and got the team fed. :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on May 03, 2007, 10:10:07 PM
When I was a kid I would listen to Milo Hamilton call Astros games on KTRH out of Houston. I went to sleep with those headphones on every night there was a game. Those West Coast road trips made for some late nights.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 03, 2007, 10:19:36 PM
Quote from: Li'l Giant on May 03, 2007, 10:10:07 PM
Those West Coast road trips made for some late nights.
Tell me about it.  At least you were in Central Time! ;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 04, 2007, 12:14:06 AM
I also used to listen to Ernie Harwell at every opportunity when I was a youth, even though I was not particularly fond of the Tigers.  That 1968 season was magical, though.

Today, my vagabond lifestyle gives me the opportunity (thanks to XM Radio) to taste the radio broadcasts from all across America.  As a lifelong Indians fan, I enjoy Tom Hamilton and Mike Hegan, although I'd understand if fans of other teams didn't care for Hammy.  There's no Ernie Harwells out there anymore, and the current Detroit broadcasters are sad substitutes.  Harwell was always modest about the Tigers and respectful of their opponents, whereas Dan Dickerson seems to believe that every Tiger player is some sort of god.  It's tiresome.

I do like the broadcasts from Toronto (Jerry Howarth), San Francisco (Jon Miller), Oakland (Ken Korach and Vince Cotroneo), Kansas City (Denny Matthews), and Colorado (Jeff Kingery).  The Yankee broadcasters (John Sterling and Suzyn Waldman) are hard to listen to, but their smugness perfectly matches their team.  I find the Minnesota broadcasts (John Gordon) annoying ("touch 'em all!!!"), and the San Diego team (Jerry Coleman and particularly Ted Leitner) unbearable, but the worst bar none is Ed Farmer for the White Sox.  (Coincidentally, the White Sox also have the worst TV broadcaster, Ken Harrelson.)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 04, 2007, 12:19:21 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 02, 2007, 08:16:29 PM
Indeed -- I was in sixth grade when that 1984 move went down.

I wonder if "my" generation is the last one to fall asleep with the transistor radio under the pillow.
Then my generation was the last generation that would talk our biology teacher into playing the transistor in class to hear the World Series, while we did "busy" work or work sheets at our desks.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 04, 2007, 12:33:48 AM
Heck, my fifth grade teacher, the 6'5" Mr. Harmon, brought his own tv (black and white, of course) into class so we could watch the Yanks play the Braves in 1957.  Those who weren't interested were sent to the back of the class to read.  The rest of us were frustrated by the Milwaukee pitching staff, especially Lew Burdette, as he won three ballgames and led the Braves to the championship.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 04, 2007, 07:16:45 AM
Spence, I give,what does 11 and 1 mean? Also todays  Pittsburgh Post Gazette (5/4) states the the Marietta's Matt Desalvo is being called up by the N.Y. Yankees.

As for radio announcers, "The Gunner" Bob Prince of the Pirates had to be one of the best and most colorful. A few of his quotes, " a bug on the rug" for a gapper, "tweener" for a ball barely far or foul, "by a knats eye lash" for a close call at a base.He also had a term he coined as "hidden vigorious" which he would use when the bucs where on a losing streak.It meant  the longer you lose, the closer you come to winning. Very profound.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 04, 2007, 09:08:18 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on May 04, 2007, 12:14:06 AM
...but the worst bar none is Ed Farmer for the White Sox.  (Coincidentally, the White Sox also have the worst TV broadcaster, Ken Harrelson.)
Couldn't agree more with that.  Especially Harrelson!  Nothing grinds me more than his, "You can put on the boooooooooooooard, YES!" calling of home runs?!  One thing for certain.  I already don't like the Sox with a passion and they both go a long way in contributing  to my distaste for that franchise. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 04, 2007, 12:14:49 PM
You might then enjoy this website:

Heave the Hawk (http://www.heavethehawk.com/signup.html)

He Gone!  :D
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 04, 2007, 12:20:14 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 04, 2007, 07:16:45 AM
Spence, I give,what does 11 and 1 mean? Also todays  Pittsburgh Post Gazette (5/4) states the the Marietta's Matt Desalvo is being called up by the N.Y. Yankees.


It's not 11 and 1 like a football record. It's 11, and 1. Two separate numbers used in comparison to each other.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 04, 2007, 01:04:04 PM
David,

Thanks for the link.  I got a good chuckle out of that.  I especially liked this:

Hawkism
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle Hillbilly & Late White Trashian; from Middle Hillbilly howgism, from Late White Trashian trailer vernacular, from Spanish trasho del blanco, from French trasche blanche

1. A catch phrase commonly used by "Ken."
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.

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Classic!!!

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 04, 2007, 04:49:34 PM
O.K. Spence. I still give. Explain please?

Another Bob Prince quote, "You can kiss it good-bye" HR.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 04, 2007, 06:34:46 PM
Sigh...it wasn't really intended for everyone, just that individual that was mockingly questioning Marietta as "The Program" in Ohio.

I'm not really interested in acknowledging that individual further, so I'd rather not give the answer out, not to mention that it's just going to upset other people here further.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 05, 2007, 06:38:02 PM
The secondhand-word is that the Mideast Regional will be hosted by Wooster and held in Strongsville, at the complex west of I-71 where a former franchise in the Great Lakes Collegiate league used to play.  This is great news for Scots fans as it's only about an hour from Wooster and is an excellent facility, even including a second diamond.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 05, 2007, 07:15:34 PM
So I take it this eliminates basically any possibility of a walkup crowd?

Makes it easier to ship teams from over east though. I was hoping that someone had put a bid in for Chillicothe though if they were going to go non D-III site. Good facility, good support for baseball in the town.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 05, 2007, 07:18:19 PM
WB,

Were you able to make it to the semis today?  That first game looks like it would have been a fun one to watch.  Again, too much for me to do around the house to justify spending my afternoon watching baseball.  Besides, to tell you the truth,  if I had the time, I would've probably found my way to try and hit that little white ball instead anyways! :P

They're showing on Wooster's Baseball Homepage that the Scots swept Densison out of the tournament by the scores of 2-1 and 8-2.  Was that a match-up of staff aces in game 1?  The last score I caught was that it was 1-1 in the 3rd with Samson giving up the only run he allowed in the top of the 1st.  He must've been dealing after the 1st inning!

And Trapuzzano got it done in game two as the Scots offense came to life belting out 17 hits to score their 8 runs!

I haven't heard any word out of Delaware today.  I noticed that their 1st game wasn't scheduled to start until 4:15 today and they were going to play 2 if needed tomorrow.  So, in any event, Wooster won't be finding out their opponent for this coming week's finals until tomorrow.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 06, 2007, 09:07:09 AM
OWU took game one yesterday afternoon over Allegheny, 10-5.

They will conclude their series this afternoon.

Over in the OAC, their tournament field is set.  Heidelberg garnered the top seed and will host the tournament starting May 10th.  Marietta and Ott will square off in the 1st game followed by the Berg vs. Capital.  The OAC uses a round robin format, unlike the NCAC which uses best of 3 series for the semis and finals. 

In other regional news, the HCAC tournament begins the 10th as well and is being hosted by top seeded Transy.  They will be taking on 4th seeded Manchester in game one.  Game 2 has 2nd seeded Mt. St. Joes taking on Anderson.  The HCAC uses a round robin format as well.

And Hope won the MIAA regular season title gaining the automatic bid into the tournament as they don't have a conference tournament.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2007, 10:26:07 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on May 04, 2007, 12:14:49 PM
You might then enjoy this website:

Heave the Hawk (http://www.heavethehawk.com/signup.html)

He Gone!  :D

Quote from: ScotsFan on May 04, 2007, 01:04:04 PM
David,

Thanks for the link.  I got a good chuckle out of that.  I especially liked this:

Hawkism
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Pronunciation: ho'kiz'um
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle Hillbilly & Late White Trashian; from Middle Hillbilly howgism, from Late White Trashian trailer vernacular, from Spanish trasho del blanco, from French trasche blanche

1. A catch phrase commonly used by "Ken."
2. Standard parlance of an incompetent hillbilly; staple of stylized speech patterns associated with South Carolinian trailer communities; used to "describe" an event (or even a sequence of events) without uttering more than 8 or 9 syllables; in essence, a substitute for original thought.

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heavethehawk.com%2Fimages%2F01_01.jpg&hash=3bf8283615642a6fdcdb2aecc54f4e4b889a1d6b)

Classic!!!
Man that is great stuff!

I could understand that dialect!  That's real baseball talk!   :) :D ;D 8)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 06, 2007, 01:00:22 PM
This morning's Wooster Daily Record has confirmed that the Mideast Regional will be held in Strongsville, Ohio at Mills Field.  I couldn't be happier.  First of all, I believe that these regionals should always be held at neutral sites.  Secondly, this location is only an hour from Wooster and is an excellent facility.  The playing surface is excellent and the aesthetics of the field are terrific.  Plus, the area is just a couple of miles from Southpark Center Mall which has plenty of restaurants available for those that want a short break from the baseball.  I'd heartily recommend Buca di Beppo, a great family style Italian place (get the 1893 Salad).

http://www.bucadibeppo.com/menu/default.aspx?id=3506
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 06, 2007, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 06, 2007, 09:07:09 AM
OWU took game one yesterday afternoon over Allegheny, 10-5.

They will conclude their series this afternoon.

Over in the OAC, their tournament field is set.  Heidelberg garnered the top seed and will host the tournament starting May 10th.  Marietta and Ott will square off in the 1st game followed by the Berg vs. Capital.  The OAC uses a round robin format, unlike the NCAC which uses best of 3 series for the semis and finals. 

In other regional news, the HCAC tournament begins the 10th as well and is being hosted by top seeded Transy.  They will be taking on 4th seeded Manchester in game one.  Game 2 has 2nd seeded Mt. St. Joes taking on Anderson.  The HCAC uses a round robin format as well.

And Hope won the MIAA regular season title gaining the automatic bid into the tournament as they don't have a conference tournament.

Good information, point of clarification. The OAC and HCAC don't use round robin formats. It's simply a 4-team, double elimination -- first round games, then winners play, losers play, one-loss teams play, championship round. Round robin would be if each team played every other team, making for three games for each team. Maybe you already knew that but just making sure for anyone that might not have.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 06, 2007, 06:52:04 PM
OWU, as expected, completed the sweep of Allegheny today by the final of 9-1.  Wooster and OWU will square off next Thursday in Granville.  Time is still TBA.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 06, 2007, 11:39:02 PM
If it's anything like the (I believe) original Buca's in Minneapolis then I second the recommendation.

My mom, who is the best Italian cook I know, uses Buca's to cater large family functions. :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2007, 11:45:57 PM
Buca di Beppo is good food to feed a small group of 25-50, seriously.

And the ambience is like no other restaurant that I have ever seen.

Sophia Loren, Gina Lollobrigida, numerous famous Italian statues, you name it!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 07, 2007, 12:25:00 AM
Yep. You can eat there with a small party too, though. Just don't order one entree for each person. :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 07, 2007, 05:01:10 AM
I've never been to the Buca's in Strongsville, only the one in Columbus.  It was just a real fun experience.  Built in the basement of an old downtown office building, the restaurant meanders throughout much of an entire city block; it must have had 20 or 30 dining rooms, of all sizes and shapes, and a few kitchens.  Monster-sized dishes meant for sharing (even with the waiter toning our order down we ended up taking half our food home).  One great entree was pork medallions in raspberry/caper sauce served with roasted vegetables.  Excellent.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 07, 2007, 09:33:59 AM
I've been to the Buca's in Strongsville and, while it's not quite as big as you describe the C'bus Buca's, I do remember it being a series of dining rooms meandering throughout the resteraunt and multiple kitchens, etc.  And you are definately right in that they aren't afraid to feed you!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 07, 2007, 10:16:26 AM
Game times For Wooster/OWU in Granville have been posted on the Denison website.  Only one game is to be played on Thursday, with a 7 PM start.  Action continues on Friday at 4 PM, two games if necessary.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 07, 2007, 12:42:22 PM
There's a good chance I'll be there on Thursday.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 07, 2007, 01:29:56 PM
The Denison website has now changed the game times to 8 PM on Thursday and 1 PM on Friday.  Wooster still has the time TBA.  I'm not counting on anything quite yet.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 07, 2007, 08:38:35 PM
What would have been so hard about deciding before the season starts?

That's just strange. Hope it gets worked out, but that's something that the teams and coaches really shouldn't have to have up in the air.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bufordscot on May 08, 2007, 07:35:58 AM

Alert the media!! Spence and I actually agree on something.  ;D

Quote from: Spence on May 07, 2007, 08:38:35 PM
What would have been so hard about deciding before the season starts?

That's just strange. Hope it gets worked out, but that's something that the teams and coaches really shouldn't have to have up in the air.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 08, 2007, 08:23:34 AM
I think they purposefully wait until the last few days to decide the times because at some NCAC schools it's finals week (actually not sure this season, but I know it used to be).  They then wait to see which two schools are in the championship series, find out if any of their players might have problems making the games, and adjust accordingly. 

I heavily suspect that it's the teams and coaches involved in the game, Wooster and OWU, that made the decision, not the people hosting at Denison, who listen to them and then choose.  I think that's a very reasonable way to go about it, considering that school comes first. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on May 08, 2007, 08:26:32 AM
Quote from: bufordscot on May 08, 2007, 07:35:58 AM

Alert the media!! Spence and I actually agree on something.  ;D

Quote from: Spence on May 07, 2007, 08:38:35 PM
What would have been so hard about deciding before the season starts?

That's just strange. Hope it gets worked out, but that's something that the teams and coaches really shouldn't have to have up in the air.

If I had to guess, I would think that the preferred schedule is to play 2 games on Thursday, then the rubber game on Friday if necessary.  The decision to play only 1 late on Thursday was made after knowing which teams would be participating and the exam schedules at those institutions.

Damn Woo Boo - you beat me to it!  It is finals week at Wooster, not sure about OWU.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 08, 2007, 05:52:53 PM
Serious question: Why play Thurs/Fri if exams are the issue? They'd probably get better attendance playing on a weekend anyway, and usually Saturday exam schedules are light if there are any at all. I can see not wanting to play Saturday/Sunday because of the possibility of bad weather, but Friday night/all day Saturday would work with Sunday as a flex day.

I honestly didn't really think of the final exams angle though. It was always more of an issue when I was in school during the last week of the regular season.

I wish the OAC had the option of playing night tournament games though...I'm going to miss early-day games the first two days because of class. One advantage of going predetermined site I guess.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 09, 2007, 09:01:55 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 08, 2007, 05:52:53 PM
Serious question: Why play Thurs/Fri if exams are the issue? They'd probably get better attendance playing on a weekend anyway, and usually Saturday exam schedules are light if there are any at all. I can see not wanting to play Saturday/Sunday because of the possibility of bad weather, but Friday night/all day Saturday would work with Sunday as a flex day.

Wouldn't the fact that the NCAA Regional Tournament begins on May 16th have something to do with playing the conference tournaments (NCAC, OAC and HCAC all start on the 10th) Thursday and Friday?  With the conference tournaments scheduled to end on the 11th, that still gives your staff 4-5 days rest to recover for the NCAA Tournament.  If you push the dates back and end up having to play on Sunday the 13th, now you're talking about only having 3 days for your staff to recover for the NCAA's.   That's my theory as to why the conference tournaments are scheduled when they are anyways.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 09, 2007, 05:28:27 PM
OAC and HCAC are 4 team double elimination tournaments so they go from Thurs-Sat. I think probably Sun is left open as a rain buffer, as well as the fact that in the past for many schools that's graduation day. I actually graduated at Don Schaly Stadium after we won the OAC tournament because rain had pushed us back to Sunday.

Really, it shouldn't matter much. You're not going to use your #1 in anything more than spot duty on Sunday.

Seems strange that on the one hand they'd be worried about game times for finals and such at the risk of hurting fan support, but then choose to have their tournament on two school days for baseball-related reasons.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 10, 2007, 11:19:03 PM
It's finally a final in Granville as the COW beats OWU 13-4 in game 1 of the NCAC Championship Series.  Adam Samson improves to 10-0 going 6+ allowing 3 earned to pick up the win. 

Now Wooster will try and lock up their 4th straight NCAC Tournament Championship tomorrow as the Scots will look to make it a clean sweep of both Densison and OWU in the conference tournament! 

Other regional scores of interest:

OAC Tournament Day 1 Results:

Game 1:

Otterbein - 7
Marietta - 3

Game 2:

Capital - 8
Heidelberg - 7

This sets up a really intersting losers bracket matchup between the regular season champion Heidelberg and  Marietta who was ranked #2 in the most recent Mideast Regional rankings. 

And in the HCAC:

Game 1:

MSJ - 6
Anderson - 1

Game 2

Manchester - 5
Transy - 2

This sets up a really interesting winner's bracket matchup between Manchester who always seems to step it up a notch come post-season play and MSJ who IMO is the team to beat out of the HCAC.

Sould be some fun games to track starting tomorrow morning and throughout the afternoon.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 11, 2007, 08:18:47 AM
Wooster had the bats working in game one, and that was more than enough to offset some other malfunctions.  Two errors (two more should have been credited), some poor communication on pop flies, and an amazing inning in which they had three baserunning blunders: two guys picked off and another thrown out trying to advance to third on a comebacker.  OWU's defense was horrible as they went through periods where they threw the ball around like a bad little league team.  All in all a reasonably ugly game, but a win is a win is a win.

Adam Samson was bloodied a bit but also had some nice moments working out of jams and making some nice defensive plays.  Both John Warren and Matt DeGrand were perfect in relief.  It was never necessary for the esteemed Doctor Miller to make a house call.

And c'mon, OWU, where do you get these names?  Sean Ring?  Sean Speed?  If you're going to allow your mound staff to use aliases at least issue them monikors that have the sound of plausibility.  These seem more to be straight out of Marvel comics or a Saturday morning cartoon show. :)

Heather: Nice job of coming around and cheering for the Scots after that initial outburst.  I still suspect, though, that you might be an OWU spy so will be keeping the tar and feathers handy.

Granville is easily my favorite town in all of Ohio.  Anyone who hasn't been there should make the trip even if there isn't a ballgame.  The downtown is the way a small town's should be; busy with people enjoying the various shops and restaurants.  What a great place.   
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 11, 2007, 09:32:59 PM
Wooster Booster, at least our supposed Marvel comic superhero's played well today.  What kind of random comment was that anyways? Do you really think they let these kids have fake names?  I could do nothing but shake my head at that comment, being the attempted lowblow for not being able to say anything nice.

Sorry to the Wooster seniors that they couldn't keep up a NCAC championship for 4 years, but major congrats to all the OWU players and good luck in NCAA D. III playoffs!!!  So proud of you guys!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 11, 2007, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: OWUBaseballRocks on May 11, 2007, 09:32:59 PM
Wooster Booster, at least our supposed Marvel comic superhero's played well today.  What kind of random comment was that anyways? Do you really think they let these kids have fake names?  I could do nothing but shake my head at that comment, being the attempted lowblow for not being able to say anything nice.

It was neither a "random" comment nor a low blow.  Do you really believe that I thought the names were fake?  Gimme a break.  It was a remark totally meant in fun and it seems to me that you should have understood that, given the smiley face following it.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 11, 2007, 10:27:41 PM
And they pushed the games back because Thursday was the last day of finals for OWU, where they usually put the most popular time-slot classes, so too many players would have been missing from the OWU bench.  Friday on the other hand was completely free for OWU.

WooBoo, it was just an odd comment, especially considering some of us used to call Kurt, "Captain Kurt" last year as we watched him launch balls. 

Previously working for the Great Lakes League too, I'm excited to see the Regionals played in Strongsville.  I may actually take time off work to come see these games.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 12, 2007, 09:32:11 AM
Welcome to the board OWUbbr. 

Did the College of Wooster baseball team's equipment manager forget to put the Scots' gloves on the bus yesterday?  Eight errors in the double header?!  That's just unacceptable by a team that wants to be considered a national championship contender.

Hats off to OWU as the Battling Bishops certainly lived up to their namesake yesterday battling back to sweep the COW pretty soundly in both games!  They definately brought their hitting shoes yesterday!

Back to Wooster's fielding issues.  I think you could definately point to their lack of fielding as an area that really cost the Scots big time yesterday!  You don't have to look much further than the lines for Wooster's starters yesterday to see the impact the errors made.  Trapuzzano gave up 6 runs, but only 3 were earned and Barnes was hit even harder by the errors as he gave up 7 runs with only 3 earned!  When you keep giving a team like OWU extra outs, they are going to make you pay eventually and they certainly did that on every occasion it seemed yesterday.  If the Scots continue to field like they did yesterday, it will be another quick exit for them in the regionals.  Plain and simple!

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 12, 2007, 09:41:33 AM
I know I'm not the only one that's been saying defense (or lack of) is Wooster's achilles heal.  It's too bad. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 12, 2007, 11:42:17 AM
Figures...the one time I actually wouldn't mind seeing Wooster win. Gotta be kidding me.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 12, 2007, 12:02:03 PM
It really was sloppy games for both teams the entire series.  Between both teams I think they had more than 20 errors.  That's embarassing for Pettorini and Durant.  :-[
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 12, 2007, 12:10:13 PM
Works out well for the NCAC though getting an extra bid and Wooster probably staying the 1 seed.

Is there precedent for 4 Pool C berths from the same region?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 12, 2007, 12:18:45 PM
We only have one year of this tournament size to work with. Not sure there's enough there to have a track record on anything.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 12, 2007, 12:39:02 PM
Oh yeah...kinda slipped my mind. Long night last night lol.

If Capital wins today, I really don't want to be the committee trying to shoehorn like 9 or 10 Mideast teams into the field somewhere.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 12, 2007, 12:57:12 PM
Randomly aligned thoughts from Denison:

OWU is the best bunting team that I've seen in years, college or otherwise.  They popped up a couple on Thursday, but on Friday they were terrific, almost always getting the ball down on the first attempt.  Only some nice defense by Rob Skulina at third and some of the Wooster pitchers kept some of the OWU sacrifices from turning into base hits.

OWU hit the ball well, certainly better than Wooster, but so many of their ground balls seemed to have eyes and find holes.  Contrast that to the shot that Steiner hit in the ninth, a scorcher that hit the OWU pitcher then landed right in front of him for an easy out.

Certainly a record was broken for coincidence when the first two Wooster batters in game three circled the bases because the OWU center fielder lost consecutive balls in the sun!

In game three of a best of three series, when there is no baseball to be played until five days down the road, you have to let it all hang out with your pitching staff.  Freshman starter Matt Barnes was getting hit and receiving no help from his defense (all 5 Wooster errors were during his 4 innings of work).  I'd have had Mark Miller, who has generally been lights out this season, in there early to try to hold the fort.  Eventually The Doctor was called, but the patient was already dead.

Defensively, these Friday games were walking contradictions.  Both teams make some excellent, even nearly-spectacular, plays in the field.  The OWU outfielders made some fine running and diving catches.  Wooster's Oliver Enos did as well, plummeting over the right-field fence after catching a foul ball.  But so many routine plays were botched.  Balls were inexplicably dropped, thrown away, or thrown to the wrong base.  Ghosts of former Oberlin and Hiram players must have been roaming the field, harrassing the actual particapants and/or giving them errant information about what to do with the ball.

Can Wooster still get the top seed in the regional which they are hosting?  I don't think so, and if they do, they've certainly backed into it.  If they don't, there can be no complaints.  Hopefully they'll still be in the Mideast and not travelling to one regional while hosting another!  

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 14, 2007, 05:21:38 AM
Wooster did pull down the top seed in the Mideast, which is a six-team regional.  The teams in order of seeding are:

1. Wooster (40-5)
2. Otterbein (31-11)
3. Hope (28-11)
4. Marietta (28-14)
5. Ohio Wesleyan (24-13)
6. Mount St. Joseph (33-9)

Wooster will play the first game on Wednesday, against Mt. St. Joseph's.  Should they win, they'll play in Game 5, which is the second game on Thursday, against the loser of the Hope-Marietta game.  Should Wooster lose to Mt. St. Joe's, they'll play in Game 4, which is the first game on Thursday, against the loser between Otterbein and OWU.

The format for the tournament where six teams participate:
Game 1—Wooster vs. Mt. St. Joseph's
Game 2—Otterbein vs Ohio Wesleyan
Game 3—Hope vs Marietta
Game 4—Loser Game 1 vs. Loser Game 2
Game 5—Winner Game 1 vs. Loser Game 3
Game 6—Winner Game 2 vs. Winner Game 3

If four teams remain after Game 6, the following procedure will be observed:
Game 7—Winner Game 5 vs. Winner Game 6
Game 8—Winner Game 4 vs. Loser Game 6
Game 9—Loser Game 7 vs. Winner Game 8
Game 10—Winner Game 7 vs. Winner Game 9
Game 11—If necessary, same teams as in Game 10

If five teams remain after Game 6, the following procedure will be observed:
Game 7—Loser Game 5 vs. Loser Game 6
Game 8—Winner Game 4 vs. Winner Game 5
Game 9—Winner Game 6 vs. Winner Game 7

If two teams remain after Game 9, the following procedure will be observed:
Game 10—Winner Game 8 vs. Winner Game 9
Game 11—If necessary, same teams as in Game 10

If three teams remain after Game 9, the following procedure will be observed:
Game 10—Winner Game 8 vs. Loser Game 9
Game 11—Winner Game 9 vs. Winner Game 10

In all six-team tournaments, Games 1, 2 and 3 will be played on the first day; Games 4, 5 and 6 will be played on the second day; Games 7, 8 and 9 will be played on the third day, and Games 10 and 11 will be played on the fourth day.

Here is the link showing the contestants and seeds in all eight regionals:

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 14, 2007, 08:48:36 AM
Booster:

The front page of D3baseball.com has a link to the same information. Let's keep people here and not send them off to the NCAA site. Those days are over -- we don't need to feed their machine anymore now that D3baseball.com is in full ... err, swing.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 14, 2007, 09:08:42 AM
I'm really surprised that Hope jumed up to garner the #3 seed, while MSJ is the lowest seeded team in the regional?!  Especially when judging by how well MSJ has been playing of late.  They've won 14 of their last 16 games with those 2 losses being to Ott and RHIT.  They also pretty much rolled through the HCAC Tournament beating up on Anderson in the opening round, followed by a win over Manchester and then beating Anderson again in the championship round.  Wooster is going to have their hands full against a team that is playing a lot better than their seed.

From the looks of things, I would say Marietta got the most favorable seed of the regional coming in at the 4 seed and squaring off against arguably the weakest team in the regioanal, but somehow the 3 seed Hope. I guess Hope jumped into the 3 seed by default, but they went from being ranked #7 in the latest regional rankings to #3 because they were idle while the other top ranked teams were losing to other regionally ranked teams (Marietta, Transy, etc.).  Meanwhile OWU goes out and knocks off the #1 team, not only in the Mideast, but in the country (not once, but twice) and they are rewarded with only a 5 seed?  MSJ has a beef as they impressively swept through their conference tournament which most would say is the 2nd toughest conference in the region and are only rewarded with a 6 seed?  I would have thought that the efforts of OWU and MSJ would have been at least good enough to leapfrog Hope, but then again, when has the NCAA done anything that made sense in any sport when it concerns Division III.   ::)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 14, 2007, 09:40:05 AM
Off topic but I'm going to post it anyway. :)  Despite losing to Grand Valley State in their league tournament, Ashland University managed to come away hosting a DII regional.  Theirs runs Thursday through Sunday.  So an awful lot of baseball (hopefully good) will be played later this week in northeastern Ohio.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 14, 2007, 10:12:01 AM
Indeed, D3baseball.com had the brackets before they were updated on the NCAA site and some people posted bits and pieces starting with the Midwest region on the Daily Dose bloggy type thingy even before that.

One thing I'll say about Hope and the Michigan teams in general...they usually have a good #1 pitcher. Not sure Hope is any better of a draw than OWU or Mt. St. Joes for a first game, but I'm just happy as heck that we're in. Turner and the guest bracketologist not putting Marietta in spooked me a bit. Before that I was 70-75% confident that we'd be in. That said, some teams I was 99% confident in didn't make it (Washington & Jefferson).

Saw that on D-II Wooster Booster, can only guess Grand Valley didn't have a suitable bid.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 14, 2007, 12:15:46 PM
Here is the link to the Mideast Regional webpage, hosted by Wooster at Mills Field in Strongsville.  Game times are up, along with links to each of the teams.

http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/news/2007/regional/default.php
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 14, 2007, 06:00:37 PM
Has Hope played a night game this year? Noticed that the Marietta-Hope game is a 7 p.m. start, kind of surprisingly. Probably draw the biggest crowd though even though it's a 3 hour drive.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 15, 2007, 09:24:02 PM
Congrats to Kyle Sherman, NCAC player of the year!  ;D
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2007, 01:03:28 PM
Wooster leaves the bases loaded in the bottom of the 4th, but they do scatch a run across to lead MSJ 1-0.

MSJ's starter Waite was cruising through the 1st 3 innings, retiring the Scots in order the 1st time through the lineup.  But, in the 4th, an MSJ error got things started for Wooster and that was followed by Wooster's Steiner and Christensen connecting for the Scots' 1st and 2nd hits off Waite to score their 1st run.

Samson has been sharp for the Scots as he has allowed only one hit, that being a bunt single in the 1st.  Wooster seems to have remembered their gloves today as they have made several nice plays in the infield already today.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 16, 2007, 01:11:54 PM
I'm unable to connect to the audio at work, so any updates would be awesome.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2007, 01:35:16 PM
Matt Johnson hit a solo homer to give the Scots a 2-0 lead.

Samson gave up a solo homer in the 6th, but recovered to retire MSJ in order in the 7th.  Wooster is still leading 2-1 at the end of 7.

Unfortunately, I have to leave so I won't be able to make any more updates.  Sorry.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 16, 2007, 01:52:53 PM
Thanks, I saw that the tournament's site has live updates so I'm able to know what's going on.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 16, 2007, 02:23:57 PM
Wooster wins 2-1 in opening round. Maybe their short coming as a team is from questionable coaching moves. Sampson is in the groove giving up 2 hits in 8 1/3rd. Pettorini pulls him with a runner on first and inserts a freshman Miller, who eventually loads the bases before getting the finial 2 outs. In the tournament you have to live and die with your horse. I saw no reason to make this move. Also Wooster bats were silent, getting only 3 hits I beleave. The no.1 team in the land will have to do more than that if they wish to advance.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 16, 2007, 02:42:29 PM
Wooster definitely needs to get the bats going.  As they say though, good pitching always beats good hitting.  Give MSJ some credit, they've been on a roll.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 16, 2007, 03:16:18 PM
If there's someone going to the tournament could they please try to send a message for the live update people to actually post the 9th inning? This has happened several times with Wooster this year. They just stop posting after the 8th inning and you never see how it ended.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 16, 2007, 03:39:41 PM
Email the tourny directory yourself:

mdougherty@wooster.edu
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 16, 2007, 06:23:56 PM
I find it funny the Wooster administration picks TODAY of all days to have the power outage, leaving the website down only after Wooster plays their games....leaving the live stats updates unavailable for games 2 and 3.  NOT PLEASED.  Not only that, but of course Otterbein's audio is not working either.  Bad Wooster. BAD.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 16, 2007, 06:27:25 PM
Quote from: OWUBaseballRocks on May 16, 2007, 06:23:56 PM
I find it funny the Wooster administration picks TODAY of all days to have the power outage, leaving the website down only after Wooster plays their games....leaving the live stats updates unavailable for games 2 and 3.  NOT PLEASED.  Not only that, but of course Otterbein's audio is not working either.  Bad Wooster. BAD.

Rem is trowing for Otterbein, Jones throwing great for OWU.  In the middle of the 7th inning, game tied 2-2.

**** agreed on the website being down, but I'm guessing that has more to do with the college and not as much with the baseball tournament.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 16, 2007, 06:39:55 PM
Ask me if I'm surprised. Ballpark doesn't have high speed Internet either. It's not like Wooster didn't know when the regional was and couldn't have coordinated this months ago in case they hosted. Imagine if it was at Wooster; all the drinks would get cold! :)

OWUrocks: Otterbein's audio has never worked for me, btu works for others I know. I can only guess there's some compatibility issue.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 16, 2007, 06:50:32 PM
OWU just scored 2 in the top of the 8th to tie the game 4-4.  Heading to the middle of the 8th, both starters are still in the game.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2007, 07:14:31 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 16, 2007, 02:23:57 PM
Maybe their short coming as a team is from questionable coaching moves. Sampson is in the groove giving up 2 hits in 8 1/3rd. Pettorini pulls him with a runner on first and inserts a freshman Miller, who eventually loads the bases before getting the finial 2 outs. In the tournament you have to live and die with your horse. I saw no reason to make this move. Also Wooster bats were silent, getting only 3 hits I beleave. The no.1 team in the land will have to do more than that if they wish to advance.
I'm not really worried about the bats.  Waite is a pretty good pitcher and Wooster is fortunate they were able to get enough to get the win and stay in the winner's bracket. 

As for the questionable coaching decision, I was right there with you wondering what Pettorini was doing there?  Yes, Samson had given up an infield hit to start the inning, but it was a weather aided dribbler that got caught up in the wet grass.  Of the 3 hits Samson allowed on the day, the HR was the only one to get out of the infield!  Samson then came back and fanned the next batter only to have Pettorini come and remove him.  The only thing I can think of to defend Pettorini is that it was a matchup move.  He wanted a righty-righty matchup maybe? 

One thing for sure, I think it's safe to say that Miller proved his worth today.  With runners on the corners and one out, Miller forced a groundout in which the Scots were able to catch the runner at 3rd in a rundown.  Then, Miller proceeded to walk the next batter, only to come back and strike out his final batter when there was no place to put him and the pressure of knowing that 2 runs were probably going to score on a base hit.  As much as I questioned the move to take out Samson, I was almost equally pleased to see the freshman get put under the coals straight away and come out unscathed.  Talk about a confidence builder for a freshman!

Did anyone see that score from the Ferrum Regional?  Methodist scored 3 tds to beat Bridgewater 21-14?! :P  Either those 2 teams have NO pitching or they just have some incredibly talented hitting teams!  I thought you were supposed to bring out your best pitchers in the opening round of the tournament!  If that's the best Methodist and Bridgewater have got, then they both won't be around very long!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 16, 2007, 07:33:49 PM
Methodist won by 7, Wooster won by 1 and was one hit away from losing it. I don't think you've got a whole lot of room to talk about cutting it close.

Three hits apiece. One home run apiece. The only thing to choose between the teams really was the error. I'd just be thanking my lucky stars that you won a game you very easily could have lost if I were you and not worrying so much about how long other teams might be around.

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 16, 2007, 07:40:13 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 07:33:49 PM
Three hits apiece. One home run apiece. The only thing to choose between the teams really was the error. I'd just be thanking my lucky stars that you won a game you very easily could have lost if I were you and not worrying so much about how long other teams might be around.

A little hypocritical don't you think? 

Scot's Fan-
  Interesting news on the Methodist game.  That's something you don't expect to see.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 16, 2007, 07:47:35 PM
I am sad Wooster has worse connection issues than OWU.  I didn't think it could get much worse, but leave it to the College of Wooster networking department to screw me over.  Hopefully they have their crap together for tomorrow's games because if I miss two games in a row, I'm going to be more than hot.  Thanks for the guys that tried to keep up with the updates...I appreciate it.  Sad that even some Wooster fans wanted to know what was happening and couldn't even get it.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 16, 2007, 07:53:17 PM
It was definitely annoying, but you don't know exactly what happened.  Call em' and find out. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 16, 2007, 07:55:08 PM
ScotsFan, I don't think a righty-righty matchup is in equation when your ace is on the hill. To me, it sounded as if Miller was lucky to escape without the lose. He couldn't find the plate with any consistancy. A heads up play by the third basemen cuts down the tying run at the plate and the last batter hits 2 ropes just foul before whiffing. Lucky day for the Scots.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2007, 08:06:34 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 06:39:55 PM
Ask me if I'm surprised. Ballpark doesn't have high speed Internet either. It's not like Wooster didn't know when the regional was and couldn't have coordinated this months ago in case they hosted. Imagine if it was at Wooster; all the drinks would get cold! :)

OWUrocks: Otterbein's audio has never worked for me, btu works for others I know. I can only guess there's some compatibility issue.

I doubt that the entire campus revolves around Wooster baseball.

We did offer scoreboard services to all eight regionals earlier in the week, however, and Wooster declined.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 16, 2007, 08:13:59 PM
Pat-
  The games are not played on Wooster's campus.  They're played almost an hour away in Strongsville.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2007, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 07:33:49 PM
Methodist won by 7, Wooster won by 1 and was one hit away from losing it. I don't think you've got a whole lot of room to talk about cutting it close.

Three hits apiece. One home run apiece. The only thing to choose between the teams really was the error. I'd just be thanking my lucky stars that you won a game you very easily could have lost if I were you and not worrying so much about how long other teams might be around.


Glad to see the old Spence is back?!  Way to take an innocent observation and twist it entirely out of proportion?! ::)  Maybe if you would read my entire post you would see that in my first comments I stated that Wooster was fortunate to come away with the win!  Bottom line is it was a Wooster win!

Just when you think Spence can't get any more annoying, he goes and proves you wrong!!! ???

Quote from: old scot on May 16, 2007, 07:55:08 PM
ScotsFan, I don't think a righty-righty matchup is in equation when your ace is on the hill. 
I agree, I was just trying to figure out why Pettorini would make such a move.  Why even let Samson go out in the 9th if he was on such a short leash? 

Quote from: old scot on May 16, 2007, 07:55:08 PM
Lucky day for the Scots.
Yes indeed.  While there was no luck involved in the way Samson dominated once again today, Pettoini is definately lucky that move to Miller didn't backfire on him costing his team a win. 

Besides, what's that old saying?  Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good! :P

Quote from: OWUBaseballRocks on May 16, 2007, 07:47:35 PM
I am sad Wooster has worse connection issues than OWU.  I didn't think it could get much worse, but leave it to the College of Wooster networking department to screw me over.  Hopefully they have their crap together for tomorrow's games because if I miss two games in a row, I'm going to be more than hot.  Thanks for the guys that tried to keep up with the updates...I appreciate it.  Sad that even some Wooster fans wanted to know what was happening and couldn't even get it.
Maybe you should be bitching at the fact that OWU doesn't have any feeds instead of bitching about Wooster!  Wooster's  sports information department is 2nd to none in most instances.  Today, there was a situation that arose ON CAMPUS that was totally out of the control of what was happening IN STRONGSVILLE.  But because OWU doesn't seem to offer any type of live scoring or anything of the sort, it's suddenly Wooster's sports information dept's fault for the COW maintenance dept shutting down power to campus?!  Classic?! ??? ::)

Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 06:39:55 PM
Ask me if I'm surprised. Ballpark doesn't have high speed Internet either. It's not like Wooster didn't know when the regional was and couldn't have coordinated this months ago in case they hosted. Imagine if it was at Wooster; all the drinks would get cold! :)
And lastly, what a surprise?  Spence finding something more to bitch about Wooster and their being the hosts of this regional!  What were the admistrators at Wooster thinking not scheduling these sorts of things around the dates of a baseball regional that Wooster may or may not be playing in or may or may not be hosting?!  Damn that College of Wooster admistration for not digging out that crystal ball or breaking out the tarot cards to predict the future so this could have all been avoided! ???
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2007, 08:50:05 PM
Quote from: countyroad on May 16, 2007, 08:13:59 PM
Pat-
  The games are not played on Wooster's campus.  They're played almost an hour away in Strongsville.

I'm aware of that but I kinda figured wooster.edu was run from Wooster's campus somewhere.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 16, 2007, 08:51:36 PM
Ahh, I see. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 16, 2007, 09:35:14 PM
Quote from: OWUBaseballRocks on May 16, 2007, 06:23:56 PM
I find it funny the Wooster administration picks TODAY of all days to have the power outage, leaving the website down only after Wooster plays their games....leaving the live stats updates unavailable for games 2 and 3.  NOT PLEASED.  Not only that, but of course Otterbein's audio is not working either.  Bad Wooster. BAD.

What do you mean you find it FUNNY?  You're implying that they did this on purpose in order to shortchange fans of other schools in some way?  Where do you guys come from with this crap?  Holy smokes!

If you'd been paying any attention to the Mideast Regional page you'd have noticed that as soon as it was posted it was mentioned that the Wooster campus would be without power on Wednesday evening.  There was an apology, in advance.  What the hell do you want?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 16, 2007, 09:37:51 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 03:16:18 PM
If there's someone going to the tournament could they please try to send a message for the live update people to actually post the 9th inning? This has happened several times with Wooster this year. They just stop posting after the 8th inning and you never see how it ended.

Excuse me, I didn't realize we Wooster fans were obligated to keep you updated Spence.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 16, 2007, 09:38:11 PM
I wasn't bitching about Strongville....I was bitching about COW.  And considering COW was hosting, they should have links up, and they should be fully functional links for the 4-5 friggin days they have it.  Its piss poor planning on COW's part and all the teams showing up shouldn't have to provide their own feeds, it should be part of the package of hosting...and as was pointed out....they had an offer to have someone else do it, and they stupidly turned it down.....letting down MULTIPLE fans all day.  As it is, their supposed "scheduled" shutdown that was only supposed to last until 9, is still shutdown and their site is still unreachable. 

As it is.....lets hope it is fixed by noon tomorrow.

And to WooBoo....I'm not implying they did it on purpose....I'm implying they couldn't have tried harder to schedule it at an asinine time. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 16, 2007, 09:43:25 PM
I really don't know what to say to you guys that are complaining about this except that I hope your teams go two and out so we can be rid of you for a year.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 16, 2007, 09:51:41 PM
Mature.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 16, 2007, 09:59:02 PM
I was up at the regional from 11 AM until 7 PM.  I saw the first two games and killed some time between games during the rain delay.  I had a damned good time watching some good baseball.  I came home and was about to post my thoughts on two good ballgames only to once again encounter the everlasting Wooster bashing that goes on here. 

Instead of being able to talk baseball, I find myself feeling it necessary to defend Wooster against yet another insinuation regarding lack of ethics, integrity, or whatever.  It just goes on and on, beginning during basketball and running through baseball.  It really stinks, if you want to know the truth.   
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 16, 2007, 10:13:36 PM
Well I'm sorry WooBoo, but I don't have the luxury of spending the entire day at Strongsville because I want to keep my job and pay my bills...so in the meantime of working, I wanted a short respite of being able to at least see live stats of the game on the website and I couldn't even get that.  I'm not bashing the sports....I'm bashing the people in charge of the power outage that took down the website.  The only thing that I don't like about any Wooster sports is that the baseball diamond is a little on the smaller end of things and thus a launch pad and sometimes makes for less interesting games.  I bitch about OWU's network all the time (and trust me, from being a student there, it sucks something hardcore) and it was just INCREDIBLY disappointing that the school hosting the regional playoff would let down so many fans by not having an option thru either their own stuff, or by what was offered to them.  How hard would it have been to accept the offer of posting live stats that was given to them?  Not hard.  If OWU had been hosting it and the website would have been down, there would have been a million people bitching this way (and its probably a damn good thing they weren't hosting because the website almost 99% would have been down).
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2007, 10:45:01 PM
I didn't read the Wooster regional site but if it said in advance that it would be down on Wednesday night I don't think you have anything to complain about, OWUBaseballRocks. Looks like you should've known this would come up.

Otterbein's radio was still available. I know it didn't work in Firefox but I saw that last weekend and immediately switched to Internet Explorer. Easy enough, no?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 16, 2007, 11:18:37 PM
Quote from: countyroad on May 16, 2007, 07:40:13 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 07:33:49 PM
Three hits apiece. One home run apiece. The only thing to choose between the teams really was the error. I'd just be thanking my lucky stars that you won a game you very easily could have lost if I were you and not worrying so much about how long other teams might be around.

A little hypocritical don't you think? 

Scot's Fan-
  Interesting news on the Methodist game.  That's something you don't expect to see.

What's hypocritical about what I posted?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 16, 2007, 11:29:53 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 16, 2007, 09:35:14 PM
Quote from: OWUBaseballRocks on May 16, 2007, 06:23:56 PM
I find it funny the Wooster administration picks TODAY of all days to have the power outage, leaving the website down only after Wooster plays their games....leaving the live stats updates unavailable for games 2 and 3.  NOT PLEASED.  Not only that, but of course Otterbein's audio is not working either.  Bad Wooster. BAD.

What do you mean you find it FUNNY?  You're implying that they did this on purpose in order to shortchange fans of other schools in some way?  Where do you guys come from with this crap?  Holy smokes!

If you'd been paying any attention to the Mideast Regional page you'd have noticed that as soon as it was posted it was mentioned that the Wooster campus would be without power on Wednesday evening.  There was an apology, in advance.  What the hell do you want?

Something about 7 P's comes to mind here. Wooster knew before the season started they wanted to host the regional and when it would be. I don't see what would have been so tough about having this outage the day before the tournament. I don't remember having this problem with any other school at any other site.

Scotsfan, you've got so many piecemeal replies in your post that it's making my head spin, so I'm just going to take care of this here. You suggested that Methodist was somehow on the way out of the tournament even though they won by 7 runs when your own team was far more fortunate to win than Methodist was. Yes you mentioned that Wooster was fortunate to win, but you didn't say Wooster was destined to be eliminated if they keep it up like you did Methodist.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 16, 2007, 11:47:56 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 16, 2007, 09:37:51 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 03:16:18 PM
If there's someone going to the tournament could they please try to send a message for the live update people to actually post the 9th inning? This has happened several times with Wooster this year. They just stop posting after the 8th inning and you never see how it ended.

Excuse me, I didn't realize we Wooster fans were obligated to keep you updated Spence.

I didn't say anything about Wooster fans. There are people at the tournament that aren't Wooster fans, you know. Heck, there are probably more fans of other teams at the tournament than Wooster fans.

What else is the point to having a live stats but to keep people updated? Is it just to burn up some bandwidth before they turn all the power off?

The way they've done their updates several times this year that I've watched them, the only people would know how the game ended wouldn't be reading the update, most likely. They're either at the game or listening to it.

It was just an observation and suggestion. But then, Wooster and their fans have never been too receptive to the idea that they might be fallible.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2007, 11:48:57 PM
I think this goes back to my statement before that the entire Wooster campus probably doesn't revolve around baseball. I don't remember IT doing athletics too many favors in my experience in athletic departments ... and that's when I was designing department Web sites, so I was closely involved.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2007, 11:49:25 PM
My God!  I come in here to check on scores and I see the power outage is still the hot topic???  Is there baseball being played or what?!  Last time I checked, OWU's and Marietta's SI depts combined don't do as good of a job as Wooster's SI dept!  Maybe if OWU's SI dept did half the job that Wooster's does, you might not have had to rely on Wooster's SI dept for your precious updates!!!

Did you happen to read what Pat posted a whie back?!  In case you missed it, allow me to highlight it for the slower ones and you should know who you are by now:

Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2007, 08:06:34 PM


I doubt that the entire campus revolves around Wooster baseball.




And to take a page from Pat's book of answers from another conversation on another board...

Ding ding!!! ;)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2007, 11:51:54 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 11:47:56 PM
But then, Wooster and their fans have never been too receptive to the idea that they might be fallible.
Boy, if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black Mr. I'm an expert on everything... ::)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 16, 2007, 11:55:10 PM
Considering this tournament is bringing money in for Wooster (I'm sure), I'm n ot saying Wooster should revolve around the athletes...but maybe they should revolve around what brings them money.  A simple day change of a scheduled power outage would have been much wiser.  And even if OWU's website doesn't update as well as Wooster's....I still got my info from them first today.  ****ty.  Its not a good business plan to be missing a day of information. Supposedly "slow" or not, you can't argue with a sound business plan....and that wasn't it.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 16, 2007, 11:57:05 PM
Its a simple concession...its all thats being asked.  It was not handled properly for a group that knew they were hosting it and had the opportunities to cover their asses in this area.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2007, 12:02:21 AM
Quote from: OWUBaseballRocks on May 16, 2007, 11:55:10 PM
Considering this tournament is bringing money in for Wooster (I'm sure),

It's bringing in money for the NCAA, if anyone. That's how the NCAA works.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on May 17, 2007, 12:02:46 AM
Were there games actually played today or did the Sports Information Departments of each school just have a tug of war? 

Seems like the Wooster people are the only people wanting to actually talk baseball. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2007, 12:08:25 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 16, 2007, 11:49:25 PM
My God!  I come in here to check on scores and I see the power outage is still the hot topic???  Is there baseball being played or what?!  Last time I checked, OWU's and Marietta's SI depts combined don't do as good of a job as Wooster's SI dept!  Maybe if OWU's SI dept did half the job that Wooster's does, you might not have had to rely on Wooster's SI dept for your precious updates!!!

Did you happen to read what Pat posted a whie back?!  In case you missed it, allow me to highlight it for the slower ones and you should know who you are by now:

Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2007, 08:06:34 PM


I doubt that the entire campus revolves around Wooster baseball.




And to take a page from Pat's book of answers from another conversation on another board...

Ding ding!!! ;)

EXCUSE ME?! WHAT?! You've got to be joking that Marietta doesn't do as good a job. We've done this so many damn times we could do it with our eyes closed and half drunk (and some of us have been at times! ;) especially on day 4 of "captivity"). Get over yourselves. Marietta's sports information director kept a live update feed that was running ahead of my internet radio feed most of the night. This isn't his tournament to run. Last week he was in Fayetteville, NC helping do radio when the softball team was in the regional down there.

On the radio tonight they said that the Hope and Marietta players were helping to prepare the field...isn't that the host team's responsibility? Was the tournament banquet brought in from Damon's at picnic tables like it was the year I went to it at Thurman Munson?

At the risk of sounding egotistical, Marietta does a better job with the regional. The community support is better, the support staff is better (non-Marietta players don't touch the tarp, even when Marietta isn't playing), the facilities are better. That's not in any way to say this should have been at Marietta this year, but for you to knock anything about Marietta in conjunction with this tournament is just the act of a raving loon.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on May 17, 2007, 12:12:25 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 17, 2007, 12:08:25 AM

At the risk of sounding egotistical,

Many on here would say that's a risk you are used to taking.

Sorry you asked for it  :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2007, 12:12:47 AM
I think the reference to sports information is 365 days a year, not just today.

From an unbiased angle I think it's hard to deny that Wooster's Web site is more complete, has more photos and I know it more often has the things I need when I go to look for something.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2007, 12:16:56 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 16, 2007, 11:51:54 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 11:47:56 PM
But then, Wooster and their fans have never been too receptive to the idea that they might be fallible.
Boy, if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black Mr. I'm an expert on everything... ::)

I suppose it would be if you made inaccurate generalizations. I've never claimed to be an expert on everything; I was wrong about several things that happened today. Now if you were to say I have an opinion on a lot of things and think it's usually right, I would agree. But that's not what you said. Part of the problem is that what some of you think are opinions, aren't.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2007, 12:26:39 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2007, 12:12:47 AM
I think the reference to sports information is 365 days a year, not just today.

From an unbiased angle I think it's hard to deny that Wooster's Web site is more complete, has more photos and I know it more often has the things I need when I go to look for something.

Guess it depends on what you're looking for. I was looking for the 9th inning of Wooster's game today and it was early in the 2nd game before I found out. For a site that has a live update, I don't think that's very good at all, and it isn't the first time this year it's happened. Once it happened in between games of a doubleheader! Maybe they do it every game and I've only followed certain games.

I've never had a problem with the work the current Marietta sports information director does, in spite of the fact that I applied for the job what seems like 50 years ago for all my life has changed since then. I don't think I could have done any better than he has, so it would be pretty hard for me to be critical.

pg04: Good one! I sure did leave the barn door wide open there! :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2007, 12:29:49 AM
I specifically restricted my comments to the information on the Web. I don't know what info Marietta produces that we don't get. I know what Wooster posts is what we need. ::shrug::
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2007, 12:43:32 AM
It's all experiential as far as that goes. Without doing some kind of audit of the sites I can't really remember much that Wooster's site has that Marietta doesn't. And I like the extra stuff Marietta's site has (like the wallpapers, one of which is my board icon!).
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 17, 2007, 07:43:15 AM
To the detriment of THIS website, during the time of the year that most of us look forward to, two posters have successfully managed to hijack the subject away from the baseball played during the first day of the tournament.  That's a shame; it really could and should be so much better here.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 17, 2007, 08:19:53 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 11:18:37 PM
Quote from: countyroad on May 16, 2007, 07:40:13 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 07:33:49 PM
Three hits apiece. One home run apiece. The only thing to choose between the teams really was the error. I'd just be thanking my lucky stars that you won a game you very easily could have lost if I were you and not worrying so much about how long other teams might be around.

A little hypocritical don't you think? 

Scot's Fan-
  Interesting news on the Methodist game.  That's something you don't expect to see.

What's hypocritical about what I posted?

What's hypocritical is the fact that you're telling someone to not worry about another team, when all you do is concern yourself with other teams.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2007, 08:30:12 AM
Quote from: countyroad on May 17, 2007, 08:19:53 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 11:18:37 PM
Quote from: countyroad on May 16, 2007, 07:40:13 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 16, 2007, 07:33:49 PM
Three hits apiece. One home run apiece. The only thing to choose between the teams really was the error. I'd just be thanking my lucky stars that you won a game you very easily could have lost if I were you and not worrying so much about how long other teams might be around.

A little hypocritical don't you think? 

Scot's Fan-
  Interesting news on the Methodist game.  That's something you don't expect to see.

What's hypocritical about what I posted?

What's hypocritical is the fact that you're telling someone to not worry about another team, when all you do is concern yourself with other teams.

I didn't say anything detrimental about how anyone won yesterday until you did. Not to mention that I usually do it on the correct board, or at least in the correct region.

FYI, the winds in Roanoke were blowing from the SW and gusting up to 30 mph before the rains came. All three winners in Ferrum scored double digits. Ferrum's more in the mountains than Roanoke, so depending on terrain effects they might have even had higher winds than Roanoke. That could have a lot to do with the scoring.

Given my line of work, I should have checked that first. After all, a bunch of people joked when I told them I was doing weather that I should have learned quite a bit just from being in Coach Schaly's office! lol But I'm doing tactical training right now so not checking it as often as I would be otherwise.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 17, 2007, 08:42:47 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 17, 2007, 08:30:12 AM

I didn't say anything detrimental about how anyone won yesterday until you did. Not to mention that I usually do it on the correct board, or at least in the correct region.


What did I say detrimental about how anyone won yesterday?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2007, 09:01:13 AM
Well whoever the bloody hell it was. One of you kilt-wearing Scottish bastahds, as my friend from south England would say. :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 17, 2007, 09:49:25 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 17, 2007, 12:16:56 AM
Part of the problem is that what some of you think are opinions, aren't.
What??

No, I just think the problem is, most of us in here just flat out don't like you.  And it has pretty much everything to do with your opinions, whether they are or aren't your opinions (whatever that's supposed to mean)?! ::)

BTW, I was the one who brought up the score from the Ferrum Regional.  And I didn't realize that when I brought it up, it was somehow being 'detrimental' to how anyone won or lost a game.  I should have known better as Spence takes anything anyone from Wooster has to say and turns it around on Wooster!

I was just trying to point out that I don't ever recall seeing a football score on the 1st day of the NCAA Tournament as that is the day when most teams are firing their aces!  My point wasn't to be 'detrimental' as a certain poster interpreted it?!  It was even brought up in the Blog page for Christ's sake!  Why didn't you go rip him a new one for making such 'detrimantal' comments?!

Oh, and I'm sorry that I didn't go and check Weather.com before I made my 'detrimental' comments?!  Give me a break!

What's really funny is that I tried to make an actual baseball conversation and Spence had to predictably turn it around on Wooster.  And then we had to proceed to spend the next couple of pages reading about Spence and OWUrocks whining about Wooster not having a live feed or how they never updated the 9th inning or whatever else they wanted to vent about Wooster.  Meanwhile, we have some pretty intriguing matchups today that we could be talking about instead.  Here's a novel idea: 

CAN WE PLEASE JUST TALK BASEBALL ALREADY?!?!

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 17, 2007, 10:38:56 AM
Today's 1st game between MSJ and OWU has the potential of being a dandy.  Both of these teams were playing some good baseball coming into the tournament and now, one of them will be the 1st to exit the regional.

I thought that both MSJ and OWU played very well yesterday against the top 2 seeds as well.  MSJ, behind the pitching of Waite took #1 Wooster to the brink.  I would imagine if you would've told them before the game that they would hold Wooster to 2 runs, I think they would've liked their chances.  The problem for them is that they faced arguably one of the best pitchers in the country and he was on top of his game!

As for the Bishops, they went toe to toe with #2 Ott  and their ace Remo for 7 1/2 innings before OWU's Jones just seemed to hit a wall.

I don't know who I like in this game.  MSJ seems to have the edge in pitching.  I'm basing this on their performance in the HCAC Tournament as they only allowed 7 runs in 3 games and they held Wooster to just 2 runs.  I would give the Bishops the offensive edge though as they have 3 guys batting over .400 and the NCAC POY Kyle Sherman has almost as many HR's (10) as MSJ's entire team total (14).  Should be a fun one to follow.

And then there's Ott vs. Marietta in the nightcap tonight.  They've already met 3 times this season with Ott taking 2 of 3.  Marietta got the better of Ott last year in the Mideast Regional, so the Cards will be out for a little revenge.  Marietta looked good over Hope last night, and they always seem to play well in post season play as last year's run to the National Championship is a testament to.  Not to mention the fact that these 2 are conference rivals and that just adds to the intrigue of this game!

And lastly there's Wooster vs. Hope.  Wooster was definately fortunate to escape their opener with MSJ with a win.  Samson came out and pitched like the NCAC Pitcher of the Year and likely All-American that he is.  It was nice to see that Wooster brought their gloves yesterday too after their debacle in the field in the NCAC Championships.  Only one error yesterday and that was an errant throw by the catcher on a steal attempt, which, fortunately for Wooster, could have cost the Scots a run, but didn't. 

The question in this game is, how will Trapuzzano respond after his first rough outing and loss of the season?  I'm confident that he'll bounce back today against Hope.  As for Hope, their best pitcher got roughed up pretty good against, what I would consider, not one of Marietta's best hitting teams in recent memory.  That can't be a good sign for the Dutchmen.  A loss to Wooster and they are done.  A pretty tall order is in line for Hope to stay alive today IMO.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2007, 01:19:38 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 17, 2007, 09:49:25 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 17, 2007, 12:16:56 AM
Part of the problem is that what some of you think are opinions, aren't.
What??

No, I just think the problem is, most of us in here just flat out don't like you.  And it has pretty much everything to do with your opinions, whether they are or aren't your opinions (whatever that's supposed to mean)?! ::)

I was just trying to point out that I don't ever recall seeing a football score on the 1st day of the NCAA Tournament as that is the day when most teams are firing their aces!  My point wasn't to be 'detrimental' as a certain poster interpreted it?!  It was even brought up in the Blog page for Christ's sake!  Why didn't you go rip him a new one for making such 'detrimantal' comments?!

CAN WE PLEASE JUST TALK BASEBALL ALREADY?!?!

You didn't just bring up the game. You implied that because Methodist gave up a bunch of runs, even though they still won the game, that they needed to do something different, better to have any hope of advancing.

Methodist, similar to Marietta, doesn't really have a true ace. Kelly started most of the first games of their conference weekends but has a 2-7 record. Toth leads them in innings pitched and is 8-4, but with a similar ERA and mostly against #2s and 3s. Bisplinghoff at 7-1 with the lowest ERA has maybe the most impressive numbers and is their top midweek guy. I think all three are pretty comparable, really.

You want to talk baseball? Start with knowing the facts. I know for me, I'd take 21-14 wins every game of the regional.

Oh, and what I meant was that a lot of times when someone disagrees with someone, they say "oh that's just your opinion" when it's not an opinion being expressed at all. That's happened several times on this board.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 17, 2007, 01:38:37 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 17, 2007, 01:19:38 PM

You want to talk baseball? Start with knowing the facts. I know for me, I'd take 21-14 wins every game of the regional.

Funny that because it is my opinion that, if I were a fan or coach of Methodist, I would be a little concerned that my #1 got shelled in the 1st game of the regional, albeit in a winning effort, and it differs with your opinion of loving to win games that resemble football scores rather than baseball scores, somehow that equates to me not knowing the facts? 

Sorry I didn't take the time to look up all the #'s on all of Methodist's starters befored I offered my opinion?!  Some of us have lives that require us to focus on more important things!  What's wrong with what I said anyways?!  If their staff continues to get pounded like they did, they won't be around long because eventually, they're going to run into some good pitching that won't allow them to put up 21 per!  Do you honestly think the coaches and players were happy about the fact that they gave up 14 runs?  Sorry, but I doubt that it's their gameplan to go out and outslug every opponent the face, and if it is, they're in for a short time in the tournament, and that's my opinion.

Besides, I think I can speak from experience, seeing some offensive juggernauts at Wooster be stymied by good pitching once tournament time rolled around.  If you don't think Methodist has any worries, than that's your opinion.  But to come out and say I don't know the facts because I didn't, nor have no care to, look up all the stats for the Methodist pitching staff and because that opinion differs with yours is exactly why my distaste for you is so strong!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 17, 2007, 02:41:44 PM
Props to Wooster's IT department today.  It's been a privilege to have updates on today's regional games.  At not cost none-the-less.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 17, 2007, 02:46:06 PM
Good win by OWU today over MSJ.  The MSJ team lost both of their games to the NCAC schools, but were very competitive both times.  This regional is shaping up to be a very good one!!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2007, 06:03:38 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 17, 2007, 10:38:56 AM

The question in this game is, how will Trapuzzano respond after his first rough outing and loss of the season?  I'm confident that he'll bounce back today against Hope.  As for Hope, their best pitcher got roughed up pretty good against, what I would consider, not one of Marietta's best hitting teams in recent memory.  That can't be a good sign for the Dutchmen.  A loss to Wooster and they are done.  A pretty tall order is in line for Hope to stay alive today IMO.

Final: Hope 5, Wooster 3. Guess it wasn't too tall, but then the Dutch are usually pretty tall folks.

Winner of Marietta/Otterbein tonight is the sole remaining undefeated in the regional.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 17, 2007, 06:09:09 PM
With Wooster losing and 5 teams still alive, it looks like the winner of this regional will have to be swigning some HOT BATS.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 17, 2007, 08:37:04 PM
Unfortunately that's not Wooster right now.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 17, 2007, 10:47:36 PM
The oddest thing for me in this whole tournament right now is the fact that all of the teams but Marietta are facing elimination tomorrow....whereas if you would have asked me after the OAC tournament if I thought Marietta would get an at-large bid I would tell you all that you were crazy....Congrats to them.  I like Otterbein...but I'm hoping that Wooster wins tomorrow because OWU has a better chance against Wooster than Otterbein, although after their first regional game...who knows.  This entire tournament is entirely too tight for guessing and no predictions are worthwhile.  If Wooster has a bad game with errors again and no bats, they're out....but if Otterbein is out of pitching...they're gone.  If OWU doesn't hit, they leave and if Hope gives an inch to the OWU team, OWU will lay 50 bunts.  Marietta is the only safe team to bet on....and really after tomorrows games....do they have enough pitching to last?  Has this been a hot streak?  Or are they just a tournament team....as evident obviously last year?  Insanity abounds!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 17, 2007, 11:42:32 PM
Woosters 4,5,6 hitters leave 8 men on base. The defense was shoddy with 3 errors on the day, one leading to an unearned run. They certainly are not playing like the top ranked team. Pettorini better light a fire under some butts or they will be on the bus tomorrow.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 08:55:33 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 17, 2007, 11:42:32 PM
Woosters 4,5,6 hitters leave 8 men on base. The defense was shoddy with 3 errors on the day, one leading to an unearned run. They certainly are not playing like the top ranked team. Pettorini better light a fire under some butts or they will be on the bus tomorrow.
I totally agree!  I don't know what it is about Petorinni coached teams that always seem to underachieve come postseason play (with the exception of '97 and '05).  I don't know if he puts too much pressure on his players or he doesn't know how to keep them loose or what?  I mean, he has one of the best hitting teams (average wise) in the regional, and one of the best pitching teams (ERA wise) in the country, and yet, once again, we are seeing the Scots underperform and play what seems to be very uninspired baseball?!  I thought last weekends losses to OWU would have been enough to light a spark in this team, and it seemed to, at least in the field on day one.  But, Wooster reverted right back to the team that can't hit in clutch situations and can't field yesterday against Hope and now they are once again left in a position where they have basically a mountain to climb if they want to keep their season going.  I just don't see it happening.  With how tight this team is playing when their backs weren't yet against the wall, I can't imagine it improving now that they are squarely against the wall!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 09:01:56 AM
And for as much as Wooster seems to underacieve during the postseason, Marietta seems to be at the opposite end of the spectrum of late.  They methodically rolled through the Regional and the CWS last year to win a National Championship and now look at them again this year.  They have methodically won their 1st 2 games and are now the only team left in the regional without a loss and are really sitting pretty to claim their 2nd straight Mideast Regional and go for their 2nd straight National Championship. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 09:29:23 AM
Coach Brewer has been around the Marietta program long enough as a player and Coach to know how to win the Marietta way in the post-season.  Solid pitching and defense, and manufacture runs.  It's simple, it really is, but it's the way things have been done for years and that's what gets you 18 trips to the World Series. 
Petorini is a very good coach, but I'm not sure why his teams seems to fall short in the regionals year after year, when they have the most talent; unless the kids just don't feel an obligation to the "program", the coach, the tradition, and each other to WIN. 
That may be the difference between the two schools.

Who knows, this regional is still a long way from over!!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 09:48:15 AM
Quote from: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 09:29:23 AM
...when they have the most talent; unless the kids just don't feel an obligation to the "program", the coach, the tradition, and each other to WIN. 
That may be the difference between the two schools.

Who knows, this regional is still a long way from over!!
It might have something to do with that, but I think it has a lot also to do with lack of focusing on fundamentals.  As you said, Marietta wins because they focus on the fundamentals (pitching, defense and manufacturing runs).  As you also noted, Wooster's teams are loaded with talent and maybe having all that talent leads to a mentality of possibly not focusing on the fundamentals as much as they should be?  I don't know.  All I see is a team that makes far too many errors in the field year after year and a team that seems to forget how to hit the ball once postseason play starts.  It just gets frustrating as a fan to see these same problems not going away year after year and year after year Wooster's high expectations heading into the tournament are very very short lived.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 18, 2007, 12:21:07 PM
It might be false confidence based on the current state of the NCAC ...
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 12:38:47 PM
Well, the timely hitting and manufacturing of runs continues to elude the Scots to start their game with Otterbein.  Wooster had 1st & 3rd with one out in both the 1st and hit into an inning ending double play and then again in the 2nd inning with no outs and hit a soft line drive out to the short stop and then had a pop up on a  bunt attempt with the runner at first running for yet another inning ending double play! ::)

Now it's in the top of the 3rd and once again Wooster is threatening with runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out.  And low and behold, basehit scoring a run!!!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2007, 12:55:41 PM
^^^  I was just going to post the same thing.  They cannot miss oppertunities like that. They've hit into 2 line drive double plays though too.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 01:14:35 PM
Thankfully for Wooster, Matt Barnes is pitching well.  Wooster has left 7 runners stranded through 4 innings of play!  As they said on the play-by-play, if Wooster continues to leave runners on, that will eventually come back to haunt them later in the game.

It's still 1-0  Wooster in the top of the 5th and the leadoff man is on once again!  Can the Scots get a rally??
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 01:27:36 PM
And the answer is an empahtic NO! 

For some reason Pettorini called a delayed steal or John Quinby decided to go himself, but it sounded as if he was out by a mile.  And wouldn't you know that Sheldon Stiener follows it up with a base hit?!  So because of the blown delayed steal call, instead of Wooster having 1st and 2nd and nobody out, it was just a runner on 1st with one out.  And Pat Christensen proceeded to hit into yet another inning ending double play?! ::)

I don't know how much more of this lack of fundamentals on the basepaths I can take?! ???
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2007, 01:31:19 PM
Baserunning was a huge issue with them last year.  It may work on lower level teams, but rarely at this level.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 01:35:59 PM
Well said.  You can even get away with it during the regular season, but not when it counts in the Regionals. 

For all you Wooster fans, look on the positive side of things.....they aren't playing all that well, but still leading.  If they can pull this one out and staighten up the fundamentals, they could be dangerous.  The only question is, will it be too late?!?!?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2007, 01:41:26 PM
What's scary is Wooster does not get the last at bat.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 18, 2007, 02:46:07 PM
Fundamentals aren't learned during or between games. They come from repition and situational prep during the pre-season. I played for both Morgan & Pettorini. Morgan was a teacher of the game, covered more situational baseball than you can imagine. Great teacher of the game. I think this is one of Pettorini's weakness. He relys on big innings to over come lack of fundamental prep.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2007, 02:58:14 PM
Wooster eaked out this win.  Whew.    Wooster will play Marietta @ 9:00 tonight?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2007, 02:59:08 PM
What are tonights likely pitching match ups?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: pufin on May 18, 2007, 03:20:09 PM
No one has responded to Pat's comment on the last page.

One might think that there could be a false sense of confidence based on the current state of the NCAC. But, the Scots were 11-0 before they played their first conference game, and are 20-2 against all teams not in the NCAC.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 06:24:28 PM
Ohio Wesleyan holds on to defeat Hope 6-5 and advance to tomorrow's 12:00pm game against Marietta, regardless of tonight's MAR/WOO outcome.

Marietta plays Wooster at 7pm tonight. If they win, Wooster will be eliminated and Marietta will play OWU in the championship game, with OWU needing to win two games.
If Wooster wins tonight, Marietta will play OWU at noon tomorrow, with the winner playing Wooster in the Championship at 3:30pm.

Still a lot of baseball to be played in this Regional!!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: pufin on May 18, 2007, 03:20:09 PM
No one has responded to Pat's comment on the last page.

One might think that there could be a false sense of confidence based on the current state of the NCAC. But, the Scots were 11-0 before they played their first conference game, and are 20-2 against all teams not in the NCAC.
I think that Wooster's coaches and players know all too well how weak the NCAC is and I would highly doubt that they would gain a false sense of confidence based on their performances against the Oberlins and Hirams of the world.  I just think it comes down to a lack of focusing on the fundamentals.  Old scot pretty much summed it up with his comments.  Just look at the bunt attempts by Boesiger today.  Twice he tried to bunt the runner to 2nd and twice he popped it up for an out.  At this stage of the game, you can't rely on the big inning, because it rarely comes.  So if you can't advance runners by bunting or getting sac flies to score runs, you're going to have trouble scoring runs which is exactly what Wooster is dealing with at the moment.

Quote from: countyroad on May 18, 2007, 02:59:08 PM
What are tonights likely pitching match ups?
I was trying to figure this out as well.  Does Wooster go with Samson tonight?  They said on the radio that Pettorini mentioned that everyone was available for game 1, so I'm assuming that Samson would at least be available.  According to the live play by play it's Matt Barnes getting the start.  Is that a typo of some sort?

Quote from: countyroad on May 18, 2007, 02:58:14 PM
Wooster eaked out this win.  Whew.    Wooster will play Marietta @ 9:00 tonight?
Whew is right.  Miller sounded like he was in control for his 2 innings of work.  He never let Ott get a threat with the exception of having the tying run on 2nd with 2 outs in the 9th. 

BTW, the game with Marietta should be just getting underway.  It was scheduled for a 7:00 start as opposed to a 9:00 start.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 07:12:57 PM
BTW, Nate Eschbaugh is the starter for Marietta.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 07:17:16 PM
Wooster is indeed starting Barnes against Marietta.  Can't say I understand the reasoning behind this since he already threw 7 innings today, but who knows, maybe his arm is already warm and ready.  I'm sure it'll be a pitching by committee game. 

Marietta gets a double play in the first; one of many this season for the Etta Express.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 07:41:27 PM
Any Wooster fans out there.........I don't know much about Wooster's pitching staff, but do they have anyone else who could have started this game?

I'm not at the game obviously, but it sounds like Barnes is a little wild, plus he just threw away a bunt at first.  He has to be tired after throwing a GREAT game this afternoon.

Just curious.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 07:58:46 PM
Freshman Matt DeGrand is 5-0 in 7 starts this season.  Evidently, Pettorini would rather go with a tired Barnes than a fresh DeGrand. 

I would think that Barnes is on a very short leash.  But after a shaky 2nd, Barnes settles back down with an impressive 3rd. 

With the way Eschbaugh is pitching, it may not have mattered who the Scots sent to the mound as he has faced the minimum though 3. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 08:04:42 PM
thanks!

Esch is throwing great so far; he's been a great surprise this year for Coach Brewer.  His ability to throw offspeed stuff and keep hitters off-guard has been very welcome.

He's a local kid, along with his brother senior shortstop Ryan, who were also both former Marietta batboys while they were growing up.  It shows how old some of us are getting!!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 08:06:31 PM
Quote from: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 08:04:42 PM
  It shows how old some of us are getting!!
LOL! :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 08:10:12 PM
I really wish I could get in Pettorini's head.  Marietta gets the 1st two on in the bottom of the 4th and there's just activity in the Wooster bullpen.  How many runs is he going to allow Barnes to give up before he pulls the trigger?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 08:14:21 PM
Finally, after giving up essentially 3 straight base hits, Pettorini comes out to pull Barnes.  Arguably one batter too late, IMO!  Now Wooster trails 3-0 with Marietta having runners on 1st and 3rd with only one out and that out was a sac bunt.

Jonh Warren is the lucky man to get the call to try and stop the bleeding here for the Scots!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 08:15:02 PM
I know what you mean.  I've seen it before first hand and scratched my head in the opposite dugout.  
He's riding Barnes' arm in this regional much like he did with freshman Benkowksi in the 1997 regional & WS.  
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 08:19:48 PM
Well, Marietta scores 2 more and now the Scots are faced with the prospect of scoring more runs in one game than they have in a game this entire regional against a pitcher who is on fire right now.  Things aren't looking so good for the Scots!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 08:38:45 PM
Scots almost get out of the 5th with a bases loaded 1-2-3 double play, but Litke comes through with a 2 RBI single.  Not sure why Pettorini pitched to him with a base open (he was already 2 for 2).

Marietta now leads 6-0 heading to the 6th.  Some line-up changes over the last few games by coach Brewer has the Pioneers offense clicking.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 09:49:31 PM
Marietta holds on for the 6-3 win.

Pettorini will probably rethink his pitching  decision, especially with the way Trap ended up closing out the game.  If he was that ready to go, he probably should've gotten the start.  The 4 runs that Barnes gave up early were a little too much to overcome.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 18, 2007, 10:00:14 PM
Quote from: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 08:15:02 PM
I know what you mean.  I've seen it before first hand and scratched my head in the opposite dugout. 
He's riding Barnes' arm in this regional much like he did with freshman Benkowksi in the 1997 regional & WS. 

That was the exact thought I had, only he wasn't crazy enough to throw even Binkowski two games on the same day (just 17 2/3 over two days if I remember correctly).

Biggest at-bat of the game was Litke's 2-run hit right after the 1-2-3 DP. If it stays 4-0 and Wooster cuts it to 4-3, our freshmen have a lot more to get jittery about.

I think Pettorini underestimated Nate Eschbaugh and expected this to be a high scoring game. He went with arguably his most offense-heavy lineup, taking out Johnson and Boesiger. He figured he could get through a few innings with Barnes and be in the game, and then keep it on track long enough to give the game to Trapuzzano with a chance to win.

But Eschbaugh's been tested and frankly has probably faced better lineups this year, and made it look (sound, to me) easy. One win to go; can we deny Ohio Wesleyan for about the eleventieth time?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 18, 2007, 10:26:26 PM
Now that the Scots season is over, the following observations: Pettorini can admit that he got more from this team than expected. Never deserved the the No.1 ranking. He must be a good politician to jump from 15th to  1. The NCAC is so weak you don't have to play small ball to win games. During tournament time you need to manufacture runs and give the opposition 27 outs. Finanlly, seed a spy to southern Ohio to see how the boys from Etta get it done.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 18, 2007, 10:45:11 PM
Woosterians (Woosterites?),

Serious question for those of you who have seen the Scots. In your opinion, could DeGrand have gotten it done if called upon? I know he hasn't faced the greatest of competition most of the time so maybe he isn't as good on a regional number as those stats look but he did go against a few decent clubs down south. Not that Barnes really threw poorly, we just took advantage of almost every little crack in the doorway. I think with the way Eschbaugh threw, being down on pitching and in the loser's bracket was going to have Wooster up against it regardless.

Oh, and as far as spies go, we have sniper nests on top of the hills overlooking the field and on the "4th floor" of the Tekulve Building for that sort of thing :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 18, 2007, 10:47:00 PM
Quote from: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 08:04:42 PM
thanks!

Esch is throwing great so far; he's been a great surprise this year for Coach Brewer.  His ability to throw offspeed stuff and keep hitters off-guard has been very welcome.

He's a local kid, along with his brother senior shortstop Ryan, who were also both former Marietta batboys while they were growing up.  It shows how old some of us are getting!!

Ryan's the first Marietta player to score a run and steal a base before his career started (in grade school no less! :))
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 18, 2007, 10:52:42 PM
I almost forgot about that; the JV vs alumni game back when he was about 12.  Schaly let him pinch run b/c the alumni guys were ready to call it quits and we let him steal third, and he scored the winning run on the next ground-out.  It made him and Coach pretty happy :)
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 18, 2007, 11:25:52 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 07:08:55 PM
I think that Wooster's coaches and players know all too well how weak the NCAC is and I would highly doubt that they would gain a false sense of confidence based on their performances against the Oberlins and Hirams of the world.

I was talking about fans' sense of confidence. Re-read the post of yours I responded to.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 18, 2007, 11:26:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 18, 2007, 11:25:52 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 18, 2007, 07:08:55 PM
I think that Wooster's coaches and players know all too well how weak the NCAC is and I would highly doubt that they would gain a false sense of confidence based on their performances against the Oberlins and Hirams of the world.

I was talking about fans' sense of confidence. Re-read the post of yours I responded to.

Fans, and pollsters.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 18, 2007, 11:49:47 PM
I was up at the regional and saw all of Wooster's games along with some others.  I'll write more tomorrow when I gather my thoughts and have more time, but just a couple of quick comments.

Pettorini's shaking up of the infield worked, as John Quimby seemed rejuvenated at short making some nice plays in the field.  Justin Thomas, who replaced him at second, had a couple of hits.  Still, to me, the benching of Matt Johnson seemed pretty harsh.  The guy hit a game-winning homerun as recently as Wednesday.  Brandon Boesiger was also benched, and although a senior captain, did not play in the final game of the year for his team.  I think that's pretty sad, considering his past contributions.

Both Matt Barnes and Anthony Trapuzzano pitched well against Marietta on virtually no rest.  However, I simply cannot comprehend, or condone, their use.  Barnes threw 103 pitches earlier in the day then came back to throw 73 more.  Trapuzzano threw 111 yesterday then 43 today.  That's a lot of pitches.  If they come up with arm problems, the cause will be no mystery.

The throwing error by Barnes on the bunt was set up by some earlier history.  In Barnes' first game today, Boesiger called off Barnes on a bunt and then threw the ball away.  Barnes then proceeded to make sure he made the play on the next two bunts in that game and made two nice, even very good, plays.  Against Marietta, though, the bunt was too good and he should not have thrown at all.  He did, it went awry, and it cost the team.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 19, 2007, 09:57:14 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 18, 2007, 10:26:26 PM
Now that the Scots season is over, the following observations: Pettorini can admit that he got more from this team than expected. Never deserved the the No.1 ranking. He must be a good politician to jump from 15th to  1. The NCAC is so weak you don't have to play small ball to win games. During tournament time you need to manufacture runs and give the opposition 27 outs. Finanlly, seed a spy to southern Ohio to see how the boys from Etta get it done.
I would have to agree with everything you said old scot.  With only 5 seniors on this team, Wooster will have some lofty expectations heading into next season.  Especially with the entire pitching staff coming back.  But if Wooster doesn't work hard on the fundamentals this off season, I fear we will be having just about the same conversation this time next year!  Especially considering Marietta, who I'm sure Brewer would admit to getting more than he's expected from his team this year, only has 3 seniors on their roster. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 19, 2007, 12:21:31 PM
GO OWU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 19, 2007, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: OWUBaseballRocks on May 19, 2007, 12:21:31 PM
GO OWU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your Bishops are beating MC at their own game; great pitching and defense, and scoring with 2 outs.

Could this be the year that OWU breaks through and wins the big one???
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 19, 2007, 02:53:22 PM
OWU takes first game 7-3. Should be a great finish to a tough regional tourney. Good luck to both teams. Play hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 19, 2007, 04:56:35 PM
Marietta has responded with the bats in game two.  It sounds like OWU is thin on pitching after a great performance on short rest by Jones in game one.
OWU has helped with some errors as well.

In the top of the 5th:
OWU - 2
MAR - 11
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 19, 2007, 08:23:09 PM
Not the cleanest played doubleheader in the world but good effort and guts shown by both teams today. They may not have been the most talented teams in the regional (or maybe they were?) but they were certainly the most resilient with OWU losing their opener and Marietta shrugging off not even thinking they were going to be here to win it.

In the end, Wesleyan was just out of bullets and the Etta Express didn't let them off the hook.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 20, 2007, 07:37:38 AM
Congrats to the Etta Express, they seem to roll along come tourney time. When the bell goes off,they strap it on and get it done! Good luck at the W.S

Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 20, 2007, 09:07:54 AM
Also, not very impressed with the updating of the mid east regional web site. The tourney is completed, nothing other than box scores of the finial two games.
How about all tournament team selections? Do they do that?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 20, 2007, 09:12:36 AM
Congrats to Marietta for winning the Mideast Regional for the 2nd straight year.  Wheter or not they were the most talented team or not is all moot right now, because the Etta Express is on it's way to Appleton, while the rest of the teams are cleaning out their lockers.  Good luck to Marietta at the CWS and represent the Mideast and more specifically, Ohio proud!  Should be a pretty fun and wide open CWS to follow!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan on May 20, 2007, 09:33:50 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 20, 2007, 09:07:54 AM
Also, not very impressed with the updating of the mid east regional web site. The tourney is completed, nothing other than box scores of the finial two games.
How about all tournament team selections? Do they do that?

I agree completely!!  I know that Justin Merryman was named tournament MVP, but I haven't seen the All-Tournament team yet or final write-up on the tournament website, and it's already Sunday morning. 
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on May 20, 2007, 01:46:41 PM
From OWU for the All-Tournament team we had: Steve Ruygrok, freshman catcher, AJ Dote, junior first baseman, and Joey McDaniel, junior lefty pitcher/outfielder.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 20, 2007, 05:33:15 PM
It's up now...dunno when this happened.

P – Justin Merryman, Marietta (Most Outstanding Player)
P – T.J. Knowlton, Marietta
C – Steve Ruygrok, Ohio Wesleyan
1B – A.J. Dote, Ohio Wesleyan
2B – Brennan Cribbins, Marietta
SS – John Quimby, Wooster
3B – Joe Litke, Marietta
OF – Joey McDaniel, Ohio Wesleyan
OF – Jeremy Reese, Marietta
OF – Matt Sattler, Hope
DH – Brian Hiscox, Otterbein
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: pufin on May 22, 2007, 03:54:19 PM
I have been thinking about ScotsFan's comments on Wooster's lack of fundamental baseball. He said that Wooster mashes its way through the NCAC, which is entirely true. But maybe that is exactly the time that the Scots can work on the fundamentals. As much as I might smile when I read about scores like the 14-1, 24-3, 12-1, 19-3 sweep of Hiram, I guess I'd rather see 4-1, 4-3, 2-1, and 6-3 game scores if it meant that the Scots played (nearly) error free and moved runners over rather than hit the long ball.

I actually saw parts of the 8-2, 26-1, 33-15, and 26-1 bludgeoning of Kenyon in 1986, and it was a lot of fun. But that team only had a 36-14 record and went 1-2 in the regionals, a pretty typical Wooster post-season result.

I made a snide comment about Marietta being "The Program" in Ohio college baseball earlier, but it wasn't completely meant in jest. Marietta has shown success year after year after year, and maybe Wooster has to take a look at how things are done down there. I would easily trade a few meaningless regular season wins each year if it meant that the Scots would be in Wisconsin (or wherever) in May.

Tim Pettorini has had success at Wooster. In fact, he has coached more than 1/2 of Wooster's all-time wins. But it seems like the Scots have not made the adjustments necessary to step up to the next level. What will it take for Pettorini and the Scots to be more like Marietta?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: oacfan on May 22, 2007, 05:20:56 PM
He needs to realize this isnt the big leagues.  Its Division 3 baseball.  And when a kid messes up and pops up a bunt and its turned into a double play, like in regionals against MSJ, he cant take the bat and throw it across the dugout.  That is just rediculas and wont get your players attention.  If anything it will just make them a lot tighter and they wont play to their potential.  They will worry about making an error and having a bat thrown by their head
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 22, 2007, 06:21:37 PM
One glaring statistic that should be an eye opener to Tim Pettorini and his staff is after starting the season 27-0, they sputtered to a pedestrian 15-7 finish.  Take away those 4 games pufin mentioned over Hiram and it's only an 11-7 finish.  And 4 of those 7 losses came at the most important time of the season as the Scots went 1-2 vs. OWU in the NCAC Championships following that up with a disappointing 2-2 finish in the Mideast Regional.  At least that 2-2 finish was an improvement over last years 0-fer at regionals. ::)  As pufin said, I would gladly trade a couple of wins per season and that lofty ranking every year for a better performance from this team come tournament time.  I'm just getting tired of building up expectations every season only to see the Scots lay eggs once the postseason comes around. 

oacfan,

Did that bat throwing incident really happen?  That's totally unacceptable for a coach of a team to do that.  No wonder these guys are so tight at the plate!  They're all scared of what their coach is going to do to them if they don't produce?!  You can't scare your team into scoring runs or not making errors!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Nonbiased Observer on May 22, 2007, 06:41:31 PM
I saw enough of what Tim Pettorini's team did to understand his frustration.

Here were the things that struck me:
They can't bunt.
No one, with the possible exception of Sheldon Steiner, steps into an outside pitch and drives it the opposite way.

Bunting's basic baseball. Once you get to college baseball, you oughta be able to put one down
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 22, 2007, 07:01:24 PM
Maybe they were just never that good? I think someone told me that earlier in the year. Someone also told me that they were not very Woosterlike offensively and their top end pitching was their strength.

That's two years in a row someone's given me a really good heads up on them but I didn't listen and ended up getting fooled by their high ranking and gaudy record like everyone else.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: oacfan on May 22, 2007, 08:59:18 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 22, 2007, 06:21:37 PM
oacfan,

Did that bat throwing incident really happen?  That's totally unacceptable for a coach of a team to do that.  No wonder these guys are so tight at the plate!  They're all scared of what their coach is going to do to them if they don't produce?!  You can't scare your team into scoring runs or not making errors!

Yes i was embarassed to be sitting there watching the game
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 22, 2007, 11:13:15 PM
Repetition is the mother of education. Wooster needs to teach these fundamentals in the gym in Jan. & Feb. Get the bunt on the ground, bunt strikes, baserunner see the ball on the ground before breaking, seeing a line drive thru the infield before advancing. This is basic baseball that doesn't seem to get taught. Not enough reps in pre-season, should not even have to think about these situations, only react.
Attended the regional Wooster hosted at the College 2004, 2005? Talked to a fan who wanted to know the differences between Morgan and Pettorini. Well, with Woo in the field and a runner on first, the batter hit a pop-up in short center behind second base. Shortstop & 2nd basemen call the ball, SS calls off the 2nd basemen, but the second basemen never returns to second to cover the bag. That would never happen with Bobby Mo.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 23, 2007, 09:22:10 AM
Quote from: Nonbiased Observer on May 22, 2007, 06:41:31 PM
I saw enough of what Tim Pettorini's team did to understand his frustration.

Here were the things that struck me:
They can't bunt.
No one, with the possible exception of Sheldon Steiner, steps into an outside pitch and drives it the opposite way.

Bunting's basic baseball. Once you get to college baseball, you oughta be able to put one down
To me, not being able to get the bunt down in key situations tells me this team doesn't spend enough time practicing getting the bunt down!  I think Wooster Booster brought it up in here after the NCAC championship that OWU was the best bunting team he had seen.  Were they just lucky?  No.  They probably practice their a$$es off at it!  Driving the ball to the opposite field is another thing learned by repetition! 

I don't know how often Pettorini and his staff work on the fundamentals with his teams because I'm not at the practices.  What I do know is that Wooster's lack of executing the fundamentals seems to be a developing pattern with Pettorini coached teams.  Even in Wooster's last trip to the CWS in '05, they pretty much slugged their way to Appleton.  Heck, if it wasn't for a Pat Christensen grand slam with 2 outs in the top of the 9th in the NCAC Championship game, Wooster probably doesn't even get a bid to the tournament that year!

All I'm saying is that if these Pettorini coached teams put the work into the fundamentals like the Mariettas and the Chapmans show how it's done, they surely don't show any signs of it when it counts?! ???  And the bottom line is, if Wooster isn't putting the time and effort into learning these things, Pettorini has no one to be frustrated at but himself!
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on June 05, 2007, 09:54:04 PM
I have heard a rumor Durant has left OWU?  Does anybody know if this is true?
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: kdoggy on June 16, 2007, 01:58:42 AM
I heard Durant left with his wife, who got a bigtime job.  Also heard his replacement will be Cypret at Ohio State.  Heard OWU's building this new pressbox, etc. and the boys who are paying for everything down there are pushing for Cypret, who is a great coach at OSU.  I'll be anxious to see.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Nonbiased Observer on June 22, 2007, 05:37:52 PM
From what I understand, Durant isn't married and his girlfriend works in Kansas. I like the source on that info.

The rest of it could be true. No one I know seems to know.
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWUBaseballRocks on July 06, 2007, 09:42:26 PM
I have on best sources the actual info:

Durant left.  Not married yet, girlfriend was St. Louis.  Tyler Mott, previous OWU pitcher and standout player, and Marietta pitching coach, has accepted the head coach position. 

This is correct and current (as the fiancee is friends with Tyler Mott).
Title: Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Fred Redd on September 10, 2007, 06:45:12 PM
Surprised to hear that Barry Craddock was let go at Denison. What's the deal? He seemed to be doing a pretty decent job there.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 03, 2008, 12:17:09 AM
The preseason baseball poll is out, and Wooster has been issued the target to wear on its back.  Number one, I don't know, but they certainly should have one of the best pitching staffs in DIII, with everybody back from last year's group.

Their schedule and roster have not yet been posted, although the Wooster website does mention that the Scots will open against Albion on March 9th in Port Charlotte, FL.

http://www.baseballnews.com/polls/divIII/currentpolldiviii.htm
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: MC Pioneer Fan on January 03, 2008, 01:23:32 AM
The stage is now set for early season showdown at Marietta, on March 26th between #1 Wooster, and #9 Marietta.

Marietta has all pitchers returning from last year, and also has CF Tony Piconke-
the leading hitter from last years team returns as well, but the Express must 3 infield starters.  Should be a great game- am looking forward to it a lot.

BTW- by looking for Wooster's schedule- has not yet been posted. Does anyone
know when it might be out?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on January 03, 2008, 11:08:01 AM
Quote from: MC Pioneer Fan on January 03, 2008, 01:23:32 AM
The stage is now set for early season showdown at Marietta, on March 26th between #1 Wooster, and #9 Marietta.

Marietta has all pitchers returning from last year, and also has CF Tony Piconke-
the leading hitter from last years team returns as well, but the Express must 3 infield starters.  Should be a great game- am looking forward to it a lot.

BTW- by looking for Wooster's schedule- has not yet been posted. Does anyone
know when it might be out?

Request that you drop the ranking numbers, as the preseason poll is junk and Wooster has never justified a #1 ranking with a season-ending #1 ranking in program history.

Wooster at Marietta stands alone anyway.

But the DH immediately before that game is bigger than the Wooster contest by far.

As far as replacements, the only one I'm kind of wondering about is SS. I'm confident we have very capable options elsewhere. I say this not knowing who you, for all I know you might be in the mix among those people. But it wouldn't change what I say if I did know.

Good luck and enjoy the season. Hope you get to see more games than me, though with Johnny and Mark, it's almost like being there anyway :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on January 03, 2008, 11:16:31 AM
Sorry to reply to my own post, but just read on the Wooster site that they're playing EIGHTEEN games in Port Charlotte? That's almost half the season...are they just inviting the whole NCAC East to play down the conference schedule down there or what?

Marietta used to play 16 games in Panama City, but it counted as 1 and was part of about a 60 game schedule. How many home dates does Wooster have this year?

I'm just blown away by this.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on January 03, 2008, 02:09:37 PM
Quote from: Spence on January 03, 2008, 11:16:31 AM
Sorry to reply to my own post, but just read on the Wooster site that they're playing EIGHTEEN games in Port Charlotte? That's almost half the season...are they just inviting the whole NCAC East to play down the conference schedule down there or what?

Marietta used to play 16 games in Panama City, but it counted as 1 and was part of about a 60 game schedule. How many home dates does Wooster have this year?

I'm just blown away by this.

Wooster could be playing a variety of good teams.  We will know once schedules are posted.

Personally I like the fact that a school will play a lot of games on the spring trip.  This leaves more time for academics for the players instead of trying to squeeze in Wednesday games and competing with class work.

Spence - i see your almost at your 1000th post.  Good Job

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on January 03, 2008, 02:18:03 PM

Schedule is posted.


http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/schedule.php
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on January 03, 2008, 02:29:40 PM
Quote from: countyroad on January 03, 2008, 02:18:03 PM

Schedule is posted.


http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/schedule.php

That looks like a substantial enough schedule to me.  Stevens, two with Point, then W&J over three days will give the team a test.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on January 03, 2008, 06:49:55 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on January 03, 2008, 02:29:40 PM
Quote from: countyroad on January 03, 2008, 02:18:03 PM

Schedule is posted.


http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/schedule.php

That looks like a substantial enough schedule to me.  Stevens, two with Point, then W&J over three days will give the team a test.

I'd take that over at Rhodes, at Hardin-Simmons on back to back days, then vs. UT-Tyler and UT-Dallas on the same day.

The Marietta game's going to aces for Wooster vs. no #3 at best for Marietta, again. Wooster's aces will throw the 20th most likely if at all, Marietta's the 22nd against Heidelberg, and travel to OWU the day after the Wooster game. Both have conference games on the following weekend, but again we're talking about NCAC East vs. the OAC. You can't get away with skipping your aces in the OAC.

Wooster's schedule looks about like what their mediocre schedule usually looks like. Not sure why they need to play Case home and home on separate dates. Also helps Wooster that their trip is so long, so even though they're playing a lot of games it's not in as many days as many teams play, allowing them to get away with using a shorter staff. They're playing some decent teams, but most teams play a much more compressed schedule than they do down there.

That schedule is nowhere near Marietta's though. Most of their toughest opponents are on our conference schedule twice, and MC's non-conference blows away Wooster's conference foes, and is still probably better than their non-conference slate besides.

Something to remember come May when we're ordaining Wooster the national champs again.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 03, 2008, 08:18:21 PM
Quote from: countyroad on January 03, 2008, 02:18:03 PM

Schedule is posted.


http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/schedule.php

Good points about Wooster's schedule.

On closer review of the Woo schedule, these are the "non-in-region" games.

Spaulding -- 3/11
Fontbonne (2)  -- 3/15
Stevens Tech -- 3/16
UWSP (2) -- 3/17
Bethel -- 3/22

Losses to those teams don't hurt as much, but they are quality opponents so you test your bullpen.  You can then use your good starters against the other "in-region" opponents.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 03, 2008, 08:29:07 PM
Marietta's 2008 Schedule (http://www.marietta.edu/athletics/baseball/schedule.html)

IMHO, Marietta's spring trip is tougher competition because Piedmont and Sewanee have been playing for a month by the time that Marietta starts its season.

The Abilene Tourney is as fine a murderer's row for a northern team as Marietta can find!  The Rhodes game on the way down is in-region, but none of the Texas schools are.  However, IMHO UT-Tyler, UT-Dallas should finish 1-2 in the ASC-East, HSU, McMurry should make the ASC tourney from the ASC-West and Southwestern may be the weakest of the field, but will make the SCAC-West tourney.

Texas Wesleyan (NAIA-1) is another strong contender.  The Texas teams will have a month of play under their belts when Marietta calls.

Thanks to Coach Brewer for coming to Abilene.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on January 04, 2008, 06:32:38 AM
I'll trust you're right on Rhodes...I can't keep in-region straight anymore without more work than I want to do for it :)

The Abilene thing has turned into a great find for coach Brewer I think. The times I've talked to him about it, it seems like we're getting everything out of it we want -- great competition, great facilities, great hospitality. Fewer distractions and chances for guys to get themselves in trouble as well compared to the beach. The schedule there looks like the best since we've been going down. There's not a game down there that we won't have to show up and play well to win.

As far as Wooster, let me be clear. Their non-conference schedule is decent, but in order to make up for their wretched conference slate, IMO they should be doing more. Of those out of region schools we mentioned, only UWSP is much of a bet to be playing after selection sunday and only Bethel could be put into a category of a pretty decent team that's just stuck in a rough conference situation as far as making the postseason (similar to finishing 3rd-5th or so in the OAC and being left out because of all the patsy automatic bid entries). Even the D-III non-con up north is not as strong as it could be, though they do play most of the OAC in midweek.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 04, 2008, 08:22:00 AM
Quote from: Spence on January 04, 2008, 06:32:38 AM
I'll trust you're right on Rhodes...I can't keep in-region straight anymore without more work than I want to do for it :)

The Abilene thing has turned into a great find for coach Brewer I think. The times I've talked to him about it, it seems like we're getting everything out of it we want -- great competition, great facilities, great hospitality. Fewer distractions and chances for guys to get themselves in trouble as well compared to the beach. The schedule there looks like the best since we've been going down. There's not a game down there that we won't have to show up and play well to win.

As far as Wooster, let me be clear. Their non-conference schedule is decent, but in order to make up for their wretched conference slate, IMO they should be doing more. Of those out of region schools we mentioned, only UWSP is much of a bet to be playing after selection sunday and only Bethel could be put into a category of a pretty decent team that's just stuck in a rough conference situation as far as making the postseason (similar to finishing 3rd-5th or so in the OAC and being left out because of all the patsy automatic bid entries). Even the D-III non-con up north is not as strong as it could be, though they do play most of the OAC in midweek.
Spence, I know that Coach Driggers and the rest of the ASC really appreciate Marietta coming down for that week.

We, the ASC schools, have had a month of play and are in the midst of divisional play.  We had gotten our pitching rotations going.  The game against 'Etta is a chance to show the ASC players what a great team does to get ready.  Those players know that this is 'Etta's spring trip.

'Etta gets a chance to get "non-in-region" games against very good teams without getting hurt in Regional Rankings.  This is one very good thing about the current rules established by the competition committee.

For the rest of the in-region rules, here is the FAQ (http://www.d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=Playoffs&id=38).

The critical thing the remember is the Administrative Regions.

Region 2 is NY and PA.
Region 3 is MI, OH, WV, VA, NC, SC, GA, down to FL, (we don't have any D3 schools in Puerto Rico), over to AL, MS and LA, then back up to  AR, TN, KY and up to IN , starting in Michigan and going clockwise on the map.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on January 08, 2008, 11:44:57 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 04, 2008, 08:22:00 AM
Quote from: Spence on January 04, 2008, 06:32:38 AM
I'll trust you're right on Rhodes...I can't keep in-region straight anymore without more work than I want to do for it :)

The Abilene thing has turned into a great find for coach Brewer I think. The times I've talked to him about it, it seems like we're getting everything out of it we want -- great competition, great facilities, great hospitality. Fewer distractions and chances for guys to get themselves in trouble as well compared to the beach. The schedule there looks like the best since we've been going down. There's not a game down there that we won't have to show up and play well to win.

As far as Wooster, let me be clear. Their non-conference schedule is decent, but in order to make up for their wretched conference slate, IMO they should be doing more. Of those out of region schools we mentioned, only UWSP is much of a bet to be playing after selection sunday and only Bethel could be put into a category of a pretty decent team that's just stuck in a rough conference situation as far as making the postseason (similar to finishing 3rd-5th or so in the OAC and being left out because of all the patsy automatic bid entries). Even the D-III non-con up north is not as strong as it could be, though they do play most of the OAC in midweek.
Spence, I know that Coach Driggers and the rest of the ASC really appreciate Marietta coming down for that week.

We, the ASC schools, have had a month of play and are in the midst of divisional play.  We had gotten our pitching rotations going.  The game against 'Etta is a chance to show the ASC players what a great team does to get ready.  Those players know that this is 'Etta's spring trip.

'Etta gets a chance to get "non-in-region" games against very good teams without getting hurt in Regional Rankings.  This is one very good thing about the current rules established by the competition committee.

For the rest of the in-region rules, here is the FAQ (http://www.d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=Playoffs&id=38).

The critical thing the remember is the Administrative Regions.

Region 2 is NY and PA.
Region 3 is MI, OH, WV, VA, NC, SC, GA, down to FL, (we don't have any D3 schools in Puerto Rico), over to AL, MS and LA, then back up to  AR, TN, KY and up to IN , starting in Michigan and going clockwise on the map.

I bet the UT Tyler game has a playoff atmosphere. Wish I could be there. Out of region be damned, I'm sure Vilade wants that game to make a statement for his program. But then all of March seems like it's going to be like that for Marietta. Rhodes, UTT, UTD, the DH at TX Wes which has become quite a little brouhaha the last few years, then at Transy, opening the OAC season with Heidelberg, then hosting Wooster and traveling to Ohio Wesleyan the next day. That's in a 13-game span. And I didn't mention in that bunch McMurry and Hardin-Simmons which have wins against us in the last two years.

In case you couldn't tell, I'm pretty blown away by this schedule. Since the contraction of the season and the changes in criteria, our scheduling had already changed a great deal, but this is IMO even a step beyond that.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woofan on January 17, 2008, 01:07:48 PM
Spence,

Do you expend all your energy finding ways to bash Wooster's baseball program?  Never seen anyone so hell bent on bringing another program down as you!  Rings of someone that couldn't meet the admission standards at Wooster.....

SHEESH!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on January 17, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: woofan on January 17, 2008, 01:07:48 PM
Spence,

Do you expend all your energy finding ways to bash Wooster's baseball program?  Never seen anyone so hell bent on bringing another program down as you!  Rings of someone that couldn't meet the admission standards at Wooster.....

SHEESH!!

Just about right.  As Wooster fans, we're not allowed to be excitied about Wooster baseball unless we are beating Marietta and/or Otterbein on the road against their #1's with all their player's being healthy.  Wooster must also be coming off 3 consecutive conference games with a conference game the next day.  Until Wooster does that, the fans should keep their mouths shut.

I have the utmost respect for Marietta btw.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: oacfan on January 21, 2008, 11:45:23 PM
Quote from: countyroad on January 17, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: woofan on January 17, 2008, 01:07:48 PM

Just about right.  As Wooster fans, we're not allowed to be excitied about Wooster baseball unless we are beating Marietta and/or Otterbein on the road against their #1's with all their player's being healthy.  Wooster must also be coming off 3 consecutive conference games with a conference game the next day.  Until Wooster does that, the fans should keep their mouths shut.

I have the utmost respect for Marietta btw.

that would be nice
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on January 22, 2008, 04:16:33 AM
Quote from: countyroad on January 17, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: woofan on January 17, 2008, 01:07:48 PM
Spence,

Do you expend all your energy finding ways to bash Wooster's baseball program?  Never seen anyone so hell bent on bringing another program down as you!  Rings of someone that couldn't meet the admission standards at Wooster.....

SHEESH!!

Just about right.  As Wooster fans, we're not allowed to be excitied about Wooster baseball unless we are beating Marietta and/or Otterbein on the road against their #1's with all their player's being healthy.  Wooster must also be coming off 3 consecutive conference games with a conference game the next day.  Until Wooster does that, the fans should keep their mouths shut.

I have the utmost respect for Marietta btw.

Wow y'all were late to the party.

Heck I'm not saying you can't be excited. I just think it's total BS that Wooster gets overranked in the preseason every year having consistently not lived up to it. I'd feel the same way if it were true in another region (it's not). Simply unbelievable and a slap in the face to the team that's won the region the last two years.

I can't see how anyone would logically pick a team #1 in the nation when the vast majority of the time they can't even manage to win the region and have only done so once in the last 10 years? I'm hard pressed to think of a team ranked as consistently high with as little on-field success in any NCAA sport in any division. It's like if Ohio State was preseason #1 or 2 in football but had only won the Big Ten once in the last decade and Michigan had played in the national championship 3 times in the past 6 years. How much sense would that make?

And you can't pretend that the pitching matchups last year rendered the regular season games between MC and Wooster practically useless as an evaluative tool. We're throwing literally #7 and 8 and you all save Samson and Trapuzzano just to run it up and we still make the one against Trapuzzano reasonably close. There's nothing illegal about it, but one should take it into consideration if he's being trusted to honestly evaluate teams, which people who vote in polls ostensibly are. 

woofan, you make me laugh. I didn't apply to Wooster, have no interest in going to school somewhere where it's winter 6 1/2 out of the 8 months I'd be there. Doubleheaders at Ohio Northern or Heidelberg were bad enough. Plus I don't like the "objects are WAY further away than they appear" flatland foolishness. Additionally, Marietta was the top-ranked school its size in the Midwest at the time, and they more or less paid me off to go there. There are a couple other schools I wish I'd applied to now (Wake Forest, Virginia, Davidson) but Wooster wasn't one of them. I hadn't really considered the south at the time, had never really been there except to go to the beach. If I could have gotten into those schools (and I feel confident I would have, though being an out-of-state applicant to UVa would have made it tough), Wooster would not have been a problem.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on January 22, 2008, 08:12:23 AM
Spence,
  I actually agree with some, well quite a bit, of what you said.  It hurts to say that, but don't be hating on Wooster for it.  Sounds like your beef should be with the pollsters.
Regardless of what the pollsters voted, there's no reason why they should not go deep in the playoffs.  There's a reason the games are decided on the field so we'll just have to wait and see.  The only game I'll likely be able to see of The CoW is when they play at Otterbein. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on January 25, 2008, 05:06:55 PM
The 2008 Wooster roster has been posted. I noticed a couple of key players not included. Oliver Enos & John Quimby are not listed. Does anyone have info ? Both logged a lot of innings the past 2 years and were very productive offensively. With there absence, I don't think the Scots can live up to their pre-season rankings. Sure, good pitching beats good hitting but, you still have to score runs. Wooster lacks the capablities of playing small ball, not very good at get'em on, get'em over, get'em in.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 25, 2008, 06:55:57 PM
Justin Thomas, an infielder who hit .325 with 3 homers in 80 at bats, and pitcher Jeff Kaatz, a long reliever who is probably better than his last season's stats (4.74 ERA in 24 IP) indicate, are not on the roster either.  I don't know why.

John Quimby did not have a real good season last year, dropping to .292 with 7 homeruns and fielding only .918 at shortstop.  He was replaced, for a while, by Frank Johnson, but won his job back during the tournament and played very well.  Oliver Enos, who was 2nd-team NCAC as a DH, hit .360 while playing left field (and DH'ing) and looked to have that same job coming into 2008.  The Scots will miss these players, a lot, unless there are some very talented incoming freshmen to replace them.  Internet searches turned up no information as to whether these players are playing elsewhere.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on January 26, 2008, 08:33:16 AM
Justin Thomas is playing ice hockey at Pitt. Oliver Enos is at Loyola Marymount playing BB.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on January 27, 2008, 08:24:49 PM
I see Barry Craddock is listed as an assistant coach.  That's a pretty nice thing to have. 

Did Barry work with the pitching staff while at Wooster the first time around?  I don't recall his role? 

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on February 23, 2008, 05:13:25 PM
The season is officially underway in the NCAC as Wabash drops a DH to Guilford College in North Carolina today.  Scores 3-0 & 11-7. They play a single game tomorrow.  Would be nice to salvage one win on the trip as they have some stiff competition in Texas for their next run of games the first week of March.
Good to be playing ball again.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 04, 2008, 09:19:50 AM
Where are all the Denison fans? Your pitcher throws a no-no and not one word mentioned.
Congrats to Park Smith of Denison on your no hit gem. No hitters are something special!!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 09, 2008, 01:29:14 PM
Wooster started today against Albion @ 12:00.

If anyone knows the score(s) of their game(s) in Florida before it's posted to their site please put it up.  I believe in year's past it took quite a while for their scores to get put up on their site.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 09, 2008, 09:21:26 PM
Wooster defeated Albion 5-3 today.


http://www.albion.edu/sports/baseball/2008statistics/39wooab.htm

How do you pronounce the losing pitcher's last name? 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 10, 2008, 11:21:03 AM
Um, wild guess.  "fill-A-chi-ah"?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 10, 2008, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 10, 2008, 11:21:03 AM
Um, wild guess.  "fill-A-chi-ah"?

Fill-eh-Chee-uh?

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 10, 2008, 12:49:50 PM
Sorry, I was being a smarty pants. 

Anyway, Wooster sure left a lot of guys on base.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 10, 2008, 02:39:00 PM
Boy, I hate to be critical after the first game BUT, after reading the play by play Woo again refuses to play small ball. In the 4th with runners on 2nd and 3rd, 1 out, nine hole hitter at the plate. Why not a squeeze play? Hitter K's, ( wasn't at the game, maybe they tried and was unsuccessful) but its not likely.

This was a perfect place to try to manufacture a run. Woo coaching staff should be taking advantage of these situations early in the season. Can't expect a kid to do it in the playoffs when they haven't done it all year. They lost alot of offense and won't be able to out slug opponents.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bufordscot on March 10, 2008, 03:11:19 PM


Quote from: old scot on March 10, 2008, 02:39:00 PM
Boy, I hate to be critical after the first game BUT, after reading the play by play Woo again refuses to play small ball. In the 4th with runners on 2nd and 3rd, 1 out, nine hole hitter at the plate. Why not a squeeze play? Hitter K's, ( wasn't at the game, maybe they tried and was unsuccessful) but its not likely.

This was a perfect place to try to manufacture a run. Woo coaching staff should be taking advantage of these situations early in the season. Can't expect a kid to do it in the playoffs when they haven't done it all year. They lost alot of offense and won't be able to out slug opponents.

Agree and disagree.  Not a bad time to try and manufacture a run however; in this case the ninth batter is a Senior co-captain.  This is a guy you'll need to count on in the clutch.  Try to build some confidence; let him play.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 10, 2008, 03:48:05 PM
Buford, have you read the players bio? Coaching staff says he excels at advancing runners. A captain leads by example and should not feel slighted by giving themselves up for the team. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 10, 2008, 03:55:31 PM
A week later and not a word mentioned about Denison's no hitter by Park Smith. I guess they have no fans that veiw the baseball board.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 10, 2008, 04:24:57 PM
Wooster splits a doubleheader with Ohio Wesleyan, winning 5-2, then losing 4-2.  No other information yet.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 12, 2008, 02:26:24 PM
Wooster beats Spalding 10-4 on 3/11, per Spaldings web site. No box scores available. Just thought I'd post it here for Wooster fans because Woo's web site doesn"t seem to update in a timely fashion.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 12, 2008, 04:38:47 PM
Wooster now has the Spalding boxscore up, which reveals that the gamescore was 12-2, indicating that the Spalding website is as spotty as their pitching staff.

Wooster is still looking for offense where they can find it.  To this end, John Warren is once again receiving some at bats and showing that he can swing the stick as well as pitch. 

Off day today, Heidelberg tomorrow. The SPs are 4-1, having scored 62 runs already this season.  Possibly Adam Samson will face them on three days rest, having only pitched six innings in his last outing.  Otherwise, I don't know who it might be. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 12, 2008, 07:06:40 PM
Red flag after Wooster's first four games. 25 K's in 121 AB's. One strike out every 4.8 plate appearances.

If the boys can't put the bat on the ball, all the more reason to play small ball.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 13, 2008, 10:09:36 AM
I think it still might be too early to go raising red flags about Wooster's offense just yet.  After all, this is the first since last fall that the Scots have been able to even be outside of the gym for practice.  And they arrived too late on Saturday to get any practice in as well.  So, they had a round of batting practice before stepping into live pitching for the 1st time this sping against Albion.  And Wooster has also had to face some quality pitchers as well.  Albion threw their #1 agaisnt the Scots and OWU threw out their 2 best vs. Wooster.

One note of concern I have is in regards to the health of Anthony Trapuzzano.  In an article in the Wooster Daily Record yesterday, it mentioned that Trap was battling a shoulder injury.  Pettorini mentioned that he is real interested in seeing how Trap's shoulder responds the day after working as hard as he did on Monday.  It didn't seem to affect his performance as he went 5.1 innings giving up 2 runs on just 2 hits while striking out 5.  Pettorini also mentioned that he hit 88 mph on the radar gun which he was surprised to see this early.  Hopefully it's nothing more than the usual aches and pains that accompany early spring practice.  Wooster can't afford to put a pichter of Trap's quality on the shelf.  Especially since the Scots look to be built around their pitching as opposed to their offense for a change.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 13, 2008, 02:43:11 PM
From the Wooster website, the Scots down Heidelberg, 5-2.  No boxscore up yet on either school's site.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 13, 2008, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 13, 2008, 10:09:36 AM
I think it still might be too early to go raising red flags about Wooster's offense just yet.  After all, this is the first since last fall that the Scots have been able to even be outside of the gym for practice. 

Isn't this the case for pretty much everyone you've played as well (other than maybe Spalding, who is just not good)?

Not trying to say anything one way or another about whether Wooster is good or not -- way too early for that -- but I thought most of the teams they played we're from as far or even further north. It's been a crappy winter in the Great Lakes states no matter what.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 14, 2008, 07:38:47 AM


Box Score

http://www.heidelberg.edu/sites/herald.heidelberg.edu/files/b031308.htm
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 14, 2008, 08:28:49 AM
As good, and as deep, as Wooster's pitching appears to be, it's still a difficult task to manuever a staff down in Florida.  For instance, the Scots already need to begin to prepare for next week's back to back league doubleheaders against Allegheny.  They'd definitely like to align the rotation to include Samson, Trapuzzano, Barnes, and DeGrande to face the Gators but that would mean holding back their best in some of the upcoming contests, Stevens Point and Wash and Jeff being the beneficiaries.

Maybe like this:   

March 9 vs. Albion (Samson)
March 10 vs. Ohio Wesleyan (2) (Trapuzzano and Barnes)
March 11 vs. Spalding (DeGrand)
March 13 vs. Heidelberg (Samson
March 14 vs. Anderson (Probably Barnes, giving Trapuzzano's shoulder the extra day)
March 15 vs. Fontbonne (Barnes or Trapuzzano)
March 16 vs. Stevens Institute of Technology (DeGrand)
March 17 vs. Wis.-Stevens Point (2) (Samson and Unknown)
March 18 vs. Washington & Jefferson (Unknown)
March 20 vs. Allegheny (2) (Barnes and DeGrand)
March 21 vs. Allegheny (2) (Samson and Trapuzzano, again giving Trap an extra day)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 14, 2008, 09:17:48 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 14, 2008, 08:28:49 AM
March 17 vs. Wis.-Stevens Point (2) (Samson and Unknown)
March 18 vs. Washington & Jefferson (Unknown)
You must have a lot of faith in this Unknown kid to want to throw him back to back against UWSP and W&J...  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 14, 2008, 10:20:59 AM
The number of discrepencies between the schedules of the various schools is unbelievable.  The name of the opponent seems to be the only item that is consistently in common.  The scheduled game time is almost always different and sometimes one school claims there will be a doubleheader while the other insists it will be a single game.  This shouldn't be that hard.

It would be nice if the people at Russ Matt baseball in Florida added a section to their website that included results.  That seemingly wouldn't be that hard, either, and in this day and age even uploading boxscores would be a piece of cake.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 14, 2008, 01:10:07 PM
What is the Russ Matt baseball about? Their web site seems to present it as a tournament. Is there a tournament winner or is it just a central location where teams can compete against each other?

Scots fan, I agree. They should have an updated result on their web site as to games played.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 14, 2008, 03:51:53 PM
It's not a tournament, but more than a central location.  I believe that once teams choose to participate, for either a week or two, the Russ Matt people do the scheduling of games.  It's just that, though, a bunch of games.  If you Google Russ Matt you'll find their site, and it's possible to download their total spring schedule in a .pdf format.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 15, 2008, 10:16:08 AM
Wooster swept a DH from Anderson yesterday by the scores of 7-5 and 8-5.  Anderson had won 6 in a row coming into yesterday's DH including a sweep of OWU.

Matt Barnes picked up the win in the opener despite giving up 5 runs in just 4 innings of work.  Wooster was benificial of some Anderson miscues as they scored 4 runs in the top of the 5th to secure the win.  Three of the runs were unearned...

In the nightcap, freshman Justin McDowell had a pretty solid outing until the 6th.  He allowed one run over the 1st five innings and had 2 outs in the 6th before he ran out of gas.  Anderson tagged him for 4 runs before the inning was over.

Mark Miller notched saves 3 & 4 on the season as the Scots are now 6-1.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 16, 2008, 10:38:01 PM
Wabash takes all 4 games this weekend from Robert Morris to move to 7-6 on the season.  Not bad considering their 0-3 start.  Went 3-3 on the Texas trip with some pretty good competition.

They have pitched well and played good defense thus far keeping them in all of their games.  Offensive production has been nothing spectacular.
I think we'll know a lot more more about this team after this week.  DePauw on Wed. then 4 games with OWU to open NCAC league play.  Despite off-season coaching changes - OWU & Denison still look to be the class of the NCAC-West as evidenced by the early season scores thus far.
OWU has posted wins against Wooster and Ohio Univ. & Denison has pitched very well to date.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 17, 2008, 10:33:47 AM
Wooster picked up 3 more wins over the weekend sweeping a DH vs. Fontbonne 9-4 & 17-3 and then unloading on Stevens 26-6. 

Trap picked up the W in the 1st game against Fontbonne to improve to 2-0.  He went 5.1 allowing 4 runs (3 earned) and struck out 7.  Matt DeGrand also improved to 2-0 in the nightcap going 5 allowing 3 runs (2 earned).

Tanner Hall notched his 1st win of the season yesterday going 6.  He had an impressive 8 strikeouts in the outing. 

Next up for the Scots is a DH today vs. nationally ranked UWSP.  OWU beat the Pointers over the weekend 11-7 in their Florida opener.  I would expect Adam Samson and Matt Barnes to be on the mound for the Scots today.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 17, 2008, 02:27:36 PM
Wooster defeated UWSP today 11-9 in 10 innings in game one.  No box score is posted as of now.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 17, 2008, 07:52:58 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 17, 2008, 02:27:36 PM
Wooster defeated UWSP today 11-9 in 10 innings in game one.  No box score is posted as of now.
Can't wait to see how Spence puts his negative spin on this one.  I suppose UWSP was throwing some scrub off the JV team or something... ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 17, 2008, 07:59:20 PM
Still no score up on either school's site for game two.  I'm wondering who pitched that first game for Wooster, if it was Samson or not.  Hopefully not, rather he was held back for game two, and had a better outing.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on March 17, 2008, 09:22:35 PM
The UWSP website is now showing that Wooster won the second game as well by a score of 8-7.  Nice Sweep by the Scots!! :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 18, 2008, 12:05:31 AM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on March 17, 2008, 09:22:35 PM
The UWSP website is now showing that Wooster won the second game as well by a score of 8-7.  Nice Sweep by the Scots!! :)

I've written it many times already on the WIAC and Midwest boards, and I'll state it here. Stevens Point is not that great this year. I think Point will finish third (behind Whitewater and Oshkosh) in our league and eke into regionals. After that, who knows? The Pointers could end up in Grand Chute again, but their talent, especially the pitching, is down. Sure, like today Point can hit sometimes but will rarely shut a team down.

That said, sometimes a jersey can create problems for opponents. And I don't want to take away what Wooster did today. Point is still pretty (very, maybe) good in relative terms, but I have no doubt that Wooster has the better team. SP is barely Top 25 material – probably outside the poll if they were not "Stevens Point." WC is Top 10. I'm actually surprised the games were as close as they were, but that's why they play them.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 18, 2008, 08:14:08 AM
I havn't been impressed with what I've got from Wooster's box score this spring.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 18, 2008, 10:38:23 AM
Wooster has updated their scores page to include the box score. 

Samson did indeed pictch in the 1st game of the DH.  He pretty much got rocked going just 4 innings and allowing 8 runs (7 earned) and he walked 5. :o  I can't remember an outing as bad as that for Samson.

In game 2, Wooster rallied for 4 runs in the bottom of the 7th to win 8-7!  Nate Gemberling-Johnson got the start and didn't fare much better than Samson in the 1st game.  He also only went 4 innings and allowed all 7 Pointer runs (all earned).

So much for thinking that the picthing was going to be the ones carrying the team this season...  Wooster's offense seems to be coming around as they are now averaging 9.5 runs per game and their team batting average is up to .342.  Meanwhile the piching staff now has a team ERA of over 4.

Wooster has an important Mid-East Region contest this morning vs. W&J and then a much needed day off tomorrow before their back to back DH's vs. Allegheny Thursday and Friday for their NCAC lid lifters.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 18, 2008, 10:46:43 AM
Quote from: countyroad on March 18, 2008, 08:14:08 AM
I havn't been impressed with what I've got from Wooster's box score this spring.
I'd say that this has more to do with the guys down in FLA not reporting anything back to Wooster in a timely manner.  If they're not phoning in the results, there's not much else you can do other than wait. 

The reasoning behind my thinking is because Wooster's Hugh Howard has to be considered one of the best small college SID's out there.  He does a tremendous job, IMO, with keeping us fans updated on all things related to Wooster athletics.  Especially when you factor in his large support staff... ;)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 18, 2008, 10:58:19 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 18, 2008, 10:46:43 AM
Quote from: countyroad on March 18, 2008, 08:14:08 AM
I havn't been impressed with what I've got from Wooster's box score this spring.
I'd say that this has more to do with the guys down in FLA not reporting anything back to Wooster in a timely manner.  If they're not phoning in the results, there's not much else you can do other than wait. 

The reasoning behind my thinking is because Wooster's Hugh Howard has to be considered one of the best small college SID's out there.  He does a tremendous job, IMO, with keeping us fans updated on all things related to Wooster athletics.  Especially when you factor in his large support staff... ;)

Oh no, I was referencing the stats within the box score.  Obviously I havn't watch any games, so I'm going by what I read in the box score.  Saying that, I havn't been impressed by the stats.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 18, 2008, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: countyroad on March 18, 2008, 10:58:19 AM
Oh no, I was referencing the stats within the box score.  Obviously I havn't watch any games, so I'm going by what I read in the box score.  Saying that, I havn't been impressed by the stats.
Oops!  My bad.  I see what you're saying now.  I misinterpreted what you were saying.

I would have to say that I agree with you about Wooster's overall stats.  The starting pitching is going to have to improve.  And the bats have been scoring just enough to win for the most part, but I'm still not convinced in Wooster's offense when they face legit pitching like they'll face come post-season time.  But the stat that pops out at me as the most alarming is once again ERRORS!  Once again, this team seems to be making far too many errors for a team that is supposed to be #2 in the nation.  The Scots have made 22 errors in their 12 games thus far.  To their credit, in 6 of their games, the Scots have committed one or fewer errors including 3 clean sheets.  On the flip side, Wooster has had 2 games with 4 or more errors including yesterday's opener with SP where they committed 4 in just 7 innings.  I just don't get why Wooster can't produce more fundamentally sound fielding teams...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 18, 2008, 12:44:56 PM
Seems to me that OshDude has it right; Stevens Point can definitely hit, but their pitching and defense aren't as yet world class.

Still, I'm surprised at Samson's poor outing, even against a team that can swing the bats.  But, it's just one turn on the mound, and I'm sure he'll bounce back.  On the positive side, Mark Miller still hasn't allowed an earned run this year, and maybe the Scots have found another pitcher in freshman Tyler Fugate, whose numbers look good in three outings.

It's hard to derive much knowledge when the team is in Florida.  Who knows if Samson and Trap (I'm calling him this because for the life of me I can't remember how many zzzzz's and nnnnnnnn's are in his name) are completely healthy?  More information will be available, from the parents, when everybody arrives home.  Hopefully, by the Marietta game, it will be 72 and balmy outside. ;)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 18, 2008, 12:53:05 PM
Errors are something that definitely jump out at me too.  Too many at shortstop.  I realize MJ is new to that position as of last season, but the ss has to be better.  I'm not saying he won't improve.   

Our offense is striking out (58) too much.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on March 18, 2008, 12:57:51 PM
Final:  Wooster 9  Washington & Jefferson 4 :)

Wooster had 15 hits, 0 errors and is now 12-1 on the season.
Wash & Jeff had 11 hits, 2 errors and their record drops to 4-2.

Wooster freshman Justin McDowell pitched 6 innings (3 runs allowed) to notch his 2nd win of the season.  Scots jumped out to an 8-0 lead in the first 5 innings of the game.

Wooster leading hitters were Pat Christensen with a triple, double and 3 RBI's.  Jake Sankal was 3 for 5 with 1 RBI.  Bubba McDowell was 3 for 4 with 1 RBI.  Matt Groezinger had 2 hits including a home run.

Next up is the 4 game set with Allegheny.  GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 18, 2008, 01:39:51 PM
Nice info.  I'm feeling better now.  haha
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 18, 2008, 02:27:15 PM
Allegheny is currently 1-4.  They had a game with Gordon this morning, but no result is up yet.  It looks as if the Gators still haven't righted their ship after being a strong NCAC team for a number of years.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 18, 2008, 04:04:20 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 17, 2008, 07:52:58 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 17, 2008, 02:27:36 PM
Wooster defeated UWSP today 11-9 in 10 innings in game one.  No box score is posted as of now.
Can't wait to see how Spence puts his negative spin on this one.  I suppose UWSP was throwing some scrub off the JV team or something... ::)

Yeah because I'm in such a position to say anything to anyone right now.

But as Oshdude said, this isn't the best year for UWSP, and I wouldn't be surprised if they finish 4th in the 7-team WIAC.

Wooster's certainly managing a lot of close wins. I'm never sure whether to take that as a good thing or not when that happens.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 19, 2008, 09:32:06 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 18, 2008, 04:04:20 PM
Wooster's certainly managing a lot of close wins. I'm never sure whether to take that as a good thing or not when that happens.
Well, I think winning the close ones is better than losing them... ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 19, 2008, 11:31:12 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 19, 2008, 09:32:06 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 18, 2008, 04:04:20 PM
Wooster's certainly managing a lot of close wins. I'm never sure whether to take that as a good thing or not when that happens.
Well, I think winning the close ones is better than losing them... ::)

Unless you win them all in March and start losing them in May. Then it's not so good.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 19, 2008, 06:23:52 PM
Spence, it's o.k. to give the team to the north credit for a good start to the season. We will see how the season shakes out but, you should feel no shame to give Wooster some love.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 19, 2008, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: old scot on March 19, 2008, 06:23:52 PM
Spence, it's o.k. to give the team to the north credit for a good start to the season. We will see how the season shakes out but, you should feel no shame to give Wooster some love.
Don't count on it.  Especially with the poor start his 'Etta Express is off to...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 20, 2008, 06:39:39 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 19, 2008, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: old scot on March 19, 2008, 06:23:52 PM
Spence, it's o.k. to give the team to the north credit for a good start to the season. We will see how the season shakes out but, you should feel no shame to give Wooster some love.
Don't count on it.  Especially with the poor start his 'Etta Express is off to...

Do you all really want to go through this again? The last two years you all have celebrated your high regular season ranking and beat your chests and got 1 regional victory to show for out of 2 #1 seedings. One win, four losses when it matters. And one man and one man alone had it pegged a month in advance.

Why don't you all win something before thumping your chests? Just once?

Great you're 12-1, we're 2-9. You've played about 3 teams that are as good as the 2nd worst team on our schedule so far. We've started out slow before and still beat your asses on the way to the Series. We'll see where things are next week. Are y'all gonna flip your rotation again to get your ace on our down the line guys? Because that definitely makes it a fair barometer  ::)

Jeez, just win something. Then talk your smack. That's all. Win. Something. Anything. Even just the regional. Make the title game (and then don't get beat 15-1).
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 20, 2008, 09:41:18 PM
Wooster swept Allegheny 14-4 and 4-1 today behind Anthony Trappuzano and Matt Barnes.  The boxscores are up on the Allegheny website.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 21, 2008, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 20, 2008, 09:41:18 PM
Wooster swept Allegheny 14-4 and 4-1 today behind Anthony Trappuzano and Matt Barnes.  The boxscores are up on the Allegheny website.

Guess that answers my question about whether they're bypassing the ace for the conference series.

Must be nice to play in such a bad division that you don't even need the ace to throw to win it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on March 21, 2008, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2008, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 20, 2008, 09:41:18 PM
Wooster swept Allegheny 14-4 and 4-1 today behind Anthony Trappuzano and Matt Barnes.  The boxscores are up on the Allegheny website.

Guess that answers my question about whether they're bypassing the ace for the conference series.

Must be nice to play in such a bad division that you don't even need the ace to throw to win it.

Guess that shows you don't check basic facts before making silly posts about Wooster's rotation. ::) :D

Does Marietta pitch their ace on only 2 days of rest?  Adam Samson pitched on March 17th so a minimium 3 days of rest suggests that he will pitch again today (March 21st) in the Allegheny doubleheader.

Good luck to Wooster in today's doubleheader vs the Gators!  GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 21, 2008, 09:44:04 AM
Spence, things were getting a little boring so I threw something out there that would get your water hot. You took the bait and really ran with it.

Now on a serious note. Lighten up a little, man. You always make it Marietta against the world and its not. Nobody here is talking trash on anyone.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 21, 2008, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: old scot on March 21, 2008, 09:44:04 AM
Now on a serious note. Lighten up a little, man. You always make it Marietta against the world and its not. Nobody here is talking trash on anyone.
I don't think he understands how to lighten up.  For whatever reason, this guy has got a lot of pent up anger towards Wooster.  Judging by Marietta's overall record vs. Wooster, you would think us Wooster fans should be the bitter angry ones.  This guy is just unreal... ::)

It's actually quite amusing about how easy it is to rile this guy up.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 21, 2008, 10:14:48 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 20, 2008, 09:41:18 PM
Wooster swept Allegheny 14-4 and 4-1 today behind Anthony Trappuzano and Matt Barnes.  The boxscores are up on the Allegheny website.
I saw that Trappuzano had a complete game in the opener.  I guess his shoulder must be feeling ok for him to go all 7 innings.  Mark Miller pitched 2 more scoreless innings in the 2nd game  to notch his 5th save of the young season.  He has still not allowed an earned run this season. 

It will be interesting to see how Samson rebounds from that rough outing in his last start today assuming he will start one of the games. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 21, 2008, 10:17:30 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 20, 2008, 06:39:39 PM
And one man and one man alone had it pegged a month in advance.
I guess we should just call you freaking Nostradamus?! :o
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 21, 2008, 11:47:35 AM
No offense, but why did you guys have to start with him?  He was gone.  His tail was between his legs.  We'd had peace all spring.  Why was it necessary to pull his chain?  Geeze.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 21, 2008, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on March 21, 2008, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2008, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 20, 2008, 09:41:18 PM
Wooster swept Allegheny 14-4 and 4-1 today behind Anthony Trappuzano and Matt Barnes.  The boxscores are up on the Allegheny website.

Guess that answers my question about whether they're bypassing the ace for the conference series.

Must be nice to play in such a bad division that you don't even need the ace to throw to win it.

Guess that shows you don't check basic facts before making silly posts about Wooster's rotation. ::) :D

Does Marietta pitch their ace on only 2 days of rest?  Adam Samson pitched on March 17th so a minimium 3 days of rest suggests that he will pitch again today (March 21st) in the Allegheny doubleheader.

Good luck to Wooster in today's doubleheader vs the Gators!  GO SCOTS!


Well we'll see if Samson throws today, but it's not like Pettorini's never thrown a guy on short rest. Or no rest.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 21, 2008, 01:37:21 PM
Quote from: old scot on March 21, 2008, 09:44:04 AM
Spence, things were getting a little boring so I threw something out there that would get your water hot. You took the bait and really ran with it.

Now on a serious note. Lighten up a little, man. You always make it Marietta against the world and its not. Nobody here is talking trash on anyone.

Nice, so you're admitting to being a troll. Great.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 21, 2008, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 21, 2008, 10:17:30 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 20, 2008, 06:39:39 PM
And one man and one man alone had it pegged a month in advance.
I guess we should just call you freaking Nostradamus?! :o

That'd be fine.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 21, 2008, 02:18:14 PM
Spence, the only thing I'm admitting to is being a fan of DIII baseball in Ohio. I show support for any team from Ohio that makes the WS. I am man enough to give credit were credit is due.

Have a Happy Easter.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 21, 2008, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: old scot on March 21, 2008, 02:18:14 PM
Spence, the only thing I'm admitting to is being a fan of DIII baseball in Ohio. I show support for any team from Ohio that makes the WS. I am man enough to give credit were credit is due.

Have a Happy Easter.

Perhaps you're unaware of what the term troll means.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 21, 2008, 05:13:01 PM
Spence, I know what a troll is. I'm sorry if I offended you. If you look at the ASC west message board I did stand up for Etta when they were getting beat.

I'm only saying you could do the same for teams from Ohio. Don't take everything so personal.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 21, 2008, 08:00:08 PM
Quote from: old scot on March 21, 2008, 05:13:01 PM
Spence, I know what a troll is. I'm sorry if I offended you. If you look at the ASC west message board I did stand up for Etta when they were getting beat.

I'm only saying you could do the same for teams from Ohio. Don't take everything so personal.

Offended...lol yeah someone not liking me or trolling me is offensive.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 21, 2008, 08:07:15 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2008, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on March 21, 2008, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2008, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 20, 2008, 09:41:18 PM
Wooster swept Allegheny 14-4 and 4-1 today behind Anthony Trappuzano and Matt Barnes.  The boxscores are up on the Allegheny website.

Guess that answers my question about whether they're bypassing the ace for the conference series.

Must be nice to play in such a bad division that you don't even need the ace to throw to win it.

Guess that shows you don't check basic facts before making silly posts about Wooster's rotation. ::) :D

Does Marietta pitch their ace on only 2 days of rest?  Adam Samson pitched on March 17th so a minimium 3 days of rest suggests that he will pitch again today (March 21st) in the Allegheny doubleheader.

Good luck to Wooster in today's doubleheader vs the Gators!  GO SCOTS!


Well we'll see if Samson throws today, but it's not like Pettorini's never thrown a guy on short rest. Or no rest.

Samson threw today and I'm assuming will throw against Marietta. Knew they'd make sure it happened one way or another. Couldn't actually be on level terms playing us. My Q is will they skip Kenyon to throw him against Otterbein. Then skip Oberlin to throw him against Kent State...and on it goes.

I wish I could say it all comes out in the wash, but it doesn't.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 21, 2008, 08:09:05 PM
Anyone know why Cultice isn't pitching for Kenyon? Is it because they can't afford to take him out of the field?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 21, 2008, 10:36:06 PM
Spence, the only troll here, which you know well and good, is you.  Everybody else in this discussion is a Wooster fan, a school that is in the NCAC, for which this room is named.  You're not.  Your sole purpose here is to make trouble, as it has been for the last two years. 

You're a Marietta fan.  Yet, you haven't made a post in the OAC room in weeks.  Why don't you spend some time over there talking about your own team instead of trashing ours?  Everybody in this room is goddamned tired of your sorry act.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 22, 2008, 12:01:30 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 21, 2008, 10:36:06 PM
Spence, the only troll here, which you know well and good, is you.  Everybody else in this discussion is a Wooster fan, a school that is in the NCAC, for which this room is named.  You're not.  Your sole purpose here is to make trouble, as it has been for the last two years. 

You're a Marietta fan.  Yet, you haven't made a post in the OAC room in weeks.  Why don't you spend some time over there talking about your own team instead of trashing ours?  Everybody in this room is goddamned tired of your sorry act.


Well said WB!  Hey pot, errrr Spence, meet kettle...

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 22, 2008, 12:33:47 AM
Wooster finished off their FLA trip on a strong note.  After starting just 2-1, they finished winning 14 in a row including an all important 4 game sweep over conference rival Allegheny.  Samson indeed bounced back from his last outing pitching a complete game shutout.  He allowed just 5 hits over seven innings including ten strike outs!  Nice bounce back game from the All-American!

Matt DeGrand, however, didn't have such an impressive outing in his start as he didn't get out of the first inning.  But how about Mark Miller.  He came into the game trailing 6-4 through 3 innings.  And all he did was shut the Gators out and give Wooster the opportunity to complete their come from behind win!  I would say that the early season candidate for team MVP and at the very least for the FLA trip should undoubtedly go to Miller.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 22, 2008, 01:11:05 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 21, 2008, 10:36:06 PM
Spence, the only troll here, which you know well and good, is you.  Everybody else in this discussion is a Wooster fan, a school that is in the NCAC, for which this room is named.  You're not.  Your sole purpose here is to make trouble, as it has been for the last two years. 


Hey moron, did you not notice who brought my name into this room?

Let me refresh your memory since you're apparently too damn stupid to remember, or scroll up.
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Quote from: countyroad on March 17, 2008, 02:27:36 pm
Wooster defeated UWSP today 11-9 in 10 innings in game one.  No box score is posted as of now.
Can't wait to see how Spence puts his negative spin on this one.  I suppose UWSP was throwing some scrub off the JV team or something... Roll Eyes
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You even admitted that it was the acts of other posters that brought me back into the discussion.

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Posted by: Wooster Booster      Posted on: Yesterday at 11:47:35 am
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No offense, but why did you guys have to start with him?  He was gone.  His tail was between his legs.  We'd had peace all spring.  Why was it necessary to pull his chain?  Geeze.
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Dismissed.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 22, 2008, 01:12:30 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 22, 2008, 12:01:30 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 21, 2008, 10:36:06 PM
Spence, the only troll here, which you know well and good, is you.  Everybody else in this discussion is a Wooster fan, a school that is in the NCAC, for which this room is named.  You're not.  Your sole purpose here is to make trouble, as it has been for the last two years. 

You're a Marietta fan.  Yet, you haven't made a post in the OAC room in weeks.  Why don't you spend some time over there talking about your own team instead of trashing ours?  Everybody in this room is goddamned tired of your sorry act.


Well said WB!  Hey pot, errrr Spence, meet kettle...



I guess if two idiots agree with each other they're both geniuses in their own minds.

Refer to previous post.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bufordscot on March 22, 2008, 10:32:41 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2008, 08:07:15 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2008, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on March 21, 2008, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2008, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 20, 2008, 09:41:18 PM
Wooster swept Allegheny 14-4 and 4-1 today behind Anthony Trappuzano and Matt Barnes.  The boxscores are up on the Allegheny website.

Guess that answers my question about whether they're bypassing the ace for the conference series.

Must be nice to play in such a bad division that you don't even need the ace to throw to win it.

Guess that shows you don't check basic facts before making silly posts about Wooster's rotation. ::) :D

Does Marietta pitch their ace on only 2 days of rest?  Adam Samson pitched on March 17th so a minimium 3 days of rest suggests that he will pitch again today (March 21st) in the Allegheny doubleheader.

Good luck to Wooster in today's doubleheader vs the Gators!  GO SCOTS!


Well we'll see if Samson throws today, but it's not like Pettorini's never thrown a guy on short rest. Or no rest.

Samson threw today and I'm assuming will throw against Marietta. Knew they'd make sure it happened one way or another. Couldn't actually be on level terms playing us. My Q is will they skip Kenyon to throw him against Otterbein. Then skip Oberlin to throw him against Kent State...and on it goes.

I wish I could say it all comes out in the wash, but it doesn't.

Spence - What a feeble argument.  IMHO it's a manager's/head coaches job to put his team in the best position to compete.  If Coach P believes he can pitch less than his ace and beat Kenyon and save his ace for Otterbein that sounds like sound management to me.  It happens in every level of baseball from competitive youth leagues to the Major League pennant races.  As for playing on level terms, maybe you should speak to your coach about managing his staff.  Not a knock on your highly successful coach...just a comment on your lack of managerial (whether it be baseball or business) understanding.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 22, 2008, 01:30:10 PM
Quote from: bufordscot on March 22, 2008, 10:32:41 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2008, 08:07:15 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2008, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on March 21, 2008, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2008, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 20, 2008, 09:41:18 PM
Wooster swept Allegheny 14-4 and 4-1 today behind Anthony Trappuzano and Matt Barnes.  The boxscores are up on the Allegheny website.

Guess that answers my question about whether they're bypassing the ace for the conference series.

Must be nice to play in such a bad division that you don't even need the ace to throw to win it.

Guess that shows you don't check basic facts before making silly posts about Wooster's rotation. ::) :D

Does Marietta pitch their ace on only 2 days of rest?  Adam Samson pitched on March 17th so a minimium 3 days of rest suggests that he will pitch again today (March 21st) in the Allegheny doubleheader.

Good luck to Wooster in today's doubleheader vs the Gators!  GO SCOTS!


Well we'll see if Samson throws today, but it's not like Pettorini's never thrown a guy on short rest. Or no rest.

Samson threw today and I'm assuming will throw against Marietta. Knew they'd make sure it happened one way or another. Couldn't actually be on level terms playing us. My Q is will they skip Kenyon to throw him against Otterbein. Then skip Oberlin to throw him against Kent State...and on it goes.

I wish I could say it all comes out in the wash, but it doesn't.

Spence - What a feeble argument.  IMHO it's a manager's/head coaches job to put his team in the best position to compete.  If Coach P believes he can pitch less than his ace and beat Kenyon and save his ace for Otterbein that sounds like sound management to me.  It happens in every level of baseball from competitive youth leagues to the Major League pennant races.  As for playing on level terms, maybe you should speak to your coach about managing his staff.  Not a knock on your highly successful coach...just a comment on your lack of managerial (whether it be baseball or business) understanding.

And where the hell did I say otherwise? What the hell is it with this board inventing statements they claim I made?

There's nothing at all wrong with doing it. But there is something wrong with other people not taking it into consideration when it comes time for selections, seedings, rankings, etc.

Things like this are why I wish this game wasn't played.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 23, 2008, 09:22:30 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 22, 2008, 01:11:05 AM

Hey moron, did you not notice who brought my name into this room?

Let me refresh your memory since you're apparently too damn stupid to remember, or scroll up.



Quote from: Spence on March 22, 2008, 01:12:30 AM

I guess if two idiots agree with each other they're both geniuses in their own minds.

Ahhh, I knew it would only be a matter of time before we saw you at your classless best...

Spence's M.O. :  When all else fails, revert to name calling.  Niiiiiice... ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 23, 2008, 09:53:45 AM
Wabash sweeps Ohio Wesleyan yesterday!!!!!

http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=5664

Little Giants are now 9-6 (2-0 NCAC West) and have won 6 straight.
Could this be the year they challenge to be a part of the post-season?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on March 23, 2008, 11:44:23 AM
I'm at the tail end of a NCAA hoops marathon (all 48 games 1st and 2nd round games in 4 days...I know, I have a problem) but wanted to chime in on the Wabash baseball wins.  Sweeping a twinbill from OWU at OWU is a big step for the Little Giant team.  A split today would make for a great weekend and a very positive start to conference play.  Well done Little Giants!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 23, 2008, 01:46:30 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 23, 2008, 09:22:30 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 22, 2008, 01:11:05 AM

Hey moron, did you not notice who brought my name into this room?

Let me refresh your memory since you're apparently too damn stupid to remember, or scroll up.


Quote from: Spence on March 22, 2008, 01:12:30 AM

I guess if two idiots agree with each other they're both geniuses in their own minds.

Ahhh, I knew it would only be a matter of time before we saw you at your classless best...

Spence's M.O. :  When all else fails, revert to name calling.  Niiiiiice... ::)

BS. If you cannot understand a simple sentence without inventing things that aren't there, then you are not very smart. That's a fact. It's not name calling if it's true.

It's not very classy of you to refer to me as classless for merely telling the truth.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 23, 2008, 06:33:09 PM
Wabash & OWU split today.
Wabash wins the first 9-6; drops the second 11-5.
Nice start in NCAC play at 3-1 (10-7 overall) and definitely a confidence booster given our past record against the Bishops and their dominance in the West Division over the years.   Next up in conference is Denison in two weeks.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 24, 2008, 07:42:47 AM
How are some the NCAC ball fields looking?  Are we going to be able to get some games in locally once teams get back from their southern trips?


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 24, 2008, 08:59:07 AM
Quote from: countyroad on March 24, 2008, 07:42:47 AM
How are some the NCAC ball fields looking?  Are we going to be able to get some games in locally once teams get back from their southern trips?

I haven't been out to see what Art Murray Field looks like.  But the forecast for this week isn't too favorable for drying things up.  It looks like rain is in the forecast for just about every day this week. 

Wooster's game Wednesday at Marietta may be up in the air as will Thursday's game when the Scots host B-W.  There's a 30% chance of rain in Marietta on Wed. and there's a 40% chance of precip in Wooster on Thursday.  If we don't get too much rain/snow this week, the forecast looks decent for the weekend series vs. Kenyon.  Just a bit on the chilly side with temps in the 40's.

Nice showing by Wabash over the weekend.  Congrats on taking 3 of 4 from OWU.  Looks like the Bishops will have some work to do to get out of the West division this season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 24, 2008, 10:22:11 AM
Gotcha.  I didn't make it by Art Murray when I was in town over the weekend either.  A little breeze would help dry it out.  Probably have a wet outfield though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 25, 2008, 06:42:37 PM
Too bad the Scots couldn't have had a home game today.  Art Murray would have been a launching pad with all this wind.  I drove by the field today and the team was out practicing.  The flag out in center field was blowing straight out!  Routine flys would have been making their way over the fence today!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 26, 2008, 07:40:43 AM
Not sure how many of you Wooster fans read the DR, but there was an article in today's paper about the spring trip, Marietta game, and sort of a spring wrap up.  There was even mention of a successful sac. bunt.

http://www.the-daily-record.com/news/article/3526532
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 26, 2008, 10:27:43 AM
I rarely buy the Daily Record, choosing instead to read the free online version.  There is the beginning of an article there today, which I can't read because I'm not an online subscriber, that is really confusing me.  Can anyone make me understand this:

"Pioneers drop Scots on big return In its first action following a highly successful spring trip, the College of Wooster visited Marietta College in southern Ohio. The Pioneers used a big day at the plate, and two solid performances on the mound to sweep..."

That's all I can read, the rest is locked to those who don't pay.  Wooster didn't by chance change their schedule again and play Marietta last night, did they?  There is nothing on the Scots own site regarding this.  Has the Daily Record gone crazy?  Not a long leap for them... 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 26, 2008, 02:43:11 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on March 26, 2008, 10:27:43 AM
I rarely buy the Daily Record, choosing instead to read the free online version.  There is the beginning of an article there today, which I can't read because I'm not an online subscriber, that is really confusing me.  Can anyone make me understand this:

"Pioneers drop Scots on big return In its first action following a highly successful spring trip, the College of Wooster visited Marietta College in southern Ohio. The Pioneers used a big day at the plate, and two solid performances on the mound to sweep..."

That's all I can read, the rest is locked to those who don't pay.  Wooster didn't by chance change their schedule again and play Marietta last night, did they?  There is nothing on the Scots own site regarding this.  Has the Daily Record gone crazy?  Not a long leap for them... 

All I read is the free part as well as I am not a subscriber.  As far as "The Pioneers Drop Scots" article, it was the softball team that was swept.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 26, 2008, 05:47:38 PM
I've been listenning to the Wooster/Marietta game online and it sounds like Wooster is going to use a few different pitchers today Trappuzano, Barnes, Sampson, etc (probably really smart with all the games coming up this weekend).  Marietta has Baumler on the hill, and he's been very promising so far, coming back from his arm surgery.

At the end of 4 innings:

Wooster - 2
Marietta - 0
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 26, 2008, 06:26:04 PM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on March 26, 2008, 05:47:38 PM
I've been listenning to the Wooster/Marietta game online and it sounds like Wooster is going to use a few different pitchers today Trappuzano, Barnes, Sampson, etc (probably really smart with all the games coming up this weekend).  Marietta has Baumler on the hill, and he's been very promising so far, coming back from his arm surgery.

At the end of 4 innings:

Wooster - 2
Marietta - 0

a few homeruns later (the wind is blowing out and Wooster has 3 on the day) and they now lead 6-0 in the bottom of the 6th.  Samson is now in the game; I'm guessing he'll throw 2 innings.

Pitching
So far for Wooster: Trapuzzano went 2, Barnes went 3, and now Samson in.
For Marietta: Baumler went 5, Eschbaugh has gone 1 and is still in the game.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 26, 2008, 06:38:34 PM
Samson struggled with his control in the 6th, and after walking Piconke he got behind a few hitters and Marietta closed the gap scoring 4 runs on 3 base hits and 2 walks.

end of the 6th:

Wooster - 6
Marietta - 4
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 26, 2008, 07:06:46 PM
The teams both scored 2 runs in the 7th.  No matter how this one ends it is safe to say that Marietta's spring trip isn't a true testament to how they will fare this season.  Wooster is obvioulsy a very good team, but if Marietta can get their pitching together they could do some damage before things are said and done this year in the OAC, and hopefully the Regionals.  Best of luck to Wooster this year.

end of 7:

Wooster - 8
Marietta - 6

pitching:
Wooster: Trapuzzano (2), Barnes (3), Samson (1), Degrand (1)
Marietta: Baumler (5), Eschbaugh (2)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 26, 2008, 07:20:59 PM
Wooster loads the bases with NO outs and Marietta gets out of it.  very weird play.  Bases loaded.....ground ball to thrid, third baseman comes home to get the force out, then the catcher throws to first but not in time; the runnner who was on second tries to come around the socre and is thrown out at home by the 1st baseman.  your typical 5-2-3-2 double play.  Then Stewart comes in a strikes out the final batter.

in the middle of the 8th:

Wooster - 8
Marietta - 6

Warren is in the game now for Wooster.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 26, 2008, 07:27:10 PM
Marietta gets one back on a solo shot by Cribbins.  Turned in to a GREAT game by both sides tonight.

end of the 8th:

Wooster - 8
Marietta - 7

pitching:
Wooster: Trapuzzano (2), Barnes (3), Samson (1), Degrand (1), Warren (1) and still in the game
Marietta: Baumler (5), Eschbaugh (1), Levins (1.2), Stewat (.1) and still in the game
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 26, 2008, 07:32:53 PM
Wooster went down in order in the ninth.  Stewart looking very good for Marietta. 

Miller is in the game for Wooster, trying for his 7th save on the year.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 26, 2008, 07:39:58 PM
Mahley - k (1 out)
Piconke - reached on error by third baseman, advanced to 2nd
Merryman - grounded out to SS (2 out), Piconke moved to 3rd
Cimino - k (3 outs)

Very good game.  Wooster wins 8-7, but Marietta showed some good stuff.  Wooster played well to hold on for the win.

It will be very interesting to see if Marietta can reach the regionals and face the Scots again.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 26, 2008, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on March 26, 2008, 07:39:58 PM
Mahley - k (1 out)
Piconke - reached on error by third baseman, advanced to 2nd
Merryman - grounded out to SS (2 out), Piconke moved to 3rd
Cimino - k (3 outs)

Very good game.  Wooster wins 8-7, but Marietta showed some good stuff.  Wooster played well to hold on for the win.

It will be very interesting to see if Marietta can reach the regionals and face the Scots again.

It was a good game.

I don't think that you count out Marietta.  They will be tough in conference.  The last year they won it, they did not start well and almost were not in the regional tournament but were winning when it really mattered.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 26, 2008, 08:03:13 PM
Sounds like Wooster still is not running the bases well.  I did listen to an inning or two at the beginning and caught a bunt base hit by Karpen which is encouraging.

I don't doubt for a minute that Marietta will have a good season and continue to improve.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 26, 2008, 08:43:48 PM
Mideastfan, It's very refreshing to find a Etta fan that is willing to give credit to the team from the north. I'm sure it was a great game and both teams competed hard. I wish all the best for Marietta  and Wooster in their seasons and it would be great for the teams to meet again in the regionals.
   
DIII baseball in Ohio is one of the toughest in the country.             
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 26, 2008, 09:11:39 PM
Greetings all.  I'm an OAC guy, so this is my first trip over this way.  The banter regarding the Wooster/Etta game got me thinking.  I wish there was a way that when the new Huntington Park opens in Columbus that Otterbein could host a weekend there and have Etta, Wooster and another team play (possibly OWU or Denison).  Just have each team play once a day against a non-conference team.  Obviously this would be basically impossible with the conference scheduling, but from my selfish fan aspect it would be great.  My pipedream and I will go back to work now... 

p.s. Thanks for the updates mideast.       
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 26, 2008, 09:27:02 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 26, 2008, 09:11:39 PM
Greetings all.  I'm an OAC guy, so this is my first trip over this way.  The banter regarding the Wooster/Etta game got me thinking.  I wish there was a way that when the new Huntington Park opens in Columbus that Otterbein could host a weekend there and have Etta, Wooster and another team play (possibly OWU or Denison).  Just have each team play once a day against a non-conference team.  Obviously this would be basically impossible with the conference scheduling, but from my selfish fan aspect it would be great.  My pipedream and I will go back to work now... 

p.s. Thanks for the updates mideast.       


I think that would be great.  Of course I'm a Wooster fan living in Columbus so I rarely get to see the Scots play. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 26, 2008, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 26, 2008, 09:11:39 PM
Greetings all.  I'm an OAC guy, so this is my first trip over this way.  The banter regarding the Wooster/Etta game got me thinking.  I wish there was a way that when the new Huntington Park opens in Columbus that Otterbein could host a weekend there and have Etta, Wooster and another team play (possibly OWU or Denison).  Just have each team play once a day against a non-conference team.  Obviously this would be basically impossible with the conference scheduling, but from my selfish fan aspect it would be great.  My pipedream and I will go back to work now... 

p.s. Thanks for the updates mideast.       

Before the regionals started allowing automatic bids in 1999, your dream weekend was called the Mideast Regional.  Marietta, Wooster, Ohio Wesleyan (and usually Allegheny, Dension, Wittenberg, or Anderson) would all go head to head in the double elimination tournament.  Those years, and those teams were fun to watch.

Now with the automatic bids and the at-large selections limited, you don't always get the top 4 (or 6) teams in the region actually playing in the regional.

I think your idea is great though, and would make for a great showcase weekend!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: lhpdiggy on March 26, 2008, 09:59:27 PM
I am an OAC guy too and I bet Etta's trip the SW will prove that there team will be there at the end of season....I say very smart move by the AD and the head coach
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: lancer98 on March 27, 2008, 10:35:08 AM
I'm late to the game on this but why is Barry Craddock(sp) no longer the coach at Denison??  Any info??
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 27, 2008, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: lancer98 on March 27, 2008, 10:35:08 AM
I'm late to the game on this but why is Barry Craddock(sp) no longer the coach at Denison??  Any info??

I do not know why he is no longer at Denison, but I can tell you he's now back at Wooster.  (You probably knew that.)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 27, 2008, 06:28:07 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 27, 2008, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: lancer98 on March 27, 2008, 10:35:08 AM
I'm late to the game on this but why is Barry Craddock(sp) no longer the coach at Denison??  Any info??

I do not know why he is no longer at Denison, but I can tell you he's now back at Wooster.  (You probably knew that.)


I hope these quotes transferred over.  I'm still a rookie when it comes to this message board stuff.
Craddock was forced out by the Denison Administration over a personal matter that I do not feel is appropriate to mention publically on this board.  The issue occured in 2006 or early '07 (before the season) and Craddock remained as coach of the Big Red through all of last season despite the occurence.  My sources tell me a disgruntled player and his parent then took the matter to the Dension Admin. and the force out resulted.  A sad situation if the story is indeed fact.  Craddock is very much respected as a coach by this particular poster and I hope he gets another shot as a head coach next season or even finds work at a higher level.  What he accomplished at Denison is what every lower-middle range program in the midwest would love to see happen to their program.

I've been sitting on this information for several months out of respect to Coach Craddock and my source hoping that the curiosity would go away but the interested baseball fans that you all are have brought the question back to topic.  Hopefully enough time has now passed and the issue is not as sensitive now as last fall.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 27, 2008, 06:35:45 PM
On to this week's baseball games.
Wabash College gets spanked by Illinois Wesleyan yesterday 8-0.  IWU is the defending reg. season champs in the very tough CCIW.  They received preseason rankings but fell out of the top 25 last week.
Wasn't at the game so I'm just wondering if Wabash had a letdown after their impressive NCAC opening 3 out of 4 against OWU or if the competition level between the NCAC and CCIW is that vast.  The latter point is hard to argue as NCAC-CCIW matchups are few and far between.  Probably easier to compare NCAC-OAC-HCAC.  Thoughts?

Wabash is scheduled for a 4 game set this weekend with Case Western.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 27, 2008, 06:41:21 PM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on March 27, 2008, 06:28:07 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 27, 2008, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: lancer98 on March 27, 2008, 10:35:08 AM
I'm late to the game on this but why is Barry Craddock(sp) no longer the coach at Denison??  Any info??

I do not know why he is no longer at Denison, but I can tell you he's now back at Wooster.  (You probably knew that.)


I hope these quotes transferred over.  I'm still a rookie when it comes to this message board stuff.
Craddock was forced out by the Denison Administration over a personal matter that I do not feel is appropriate to mention publically on this board.  The issue occured in 2006 or early '07 (before the season) and Craddock remained as coach of the Big Red through all of last season despite the occurence.  My sources tell me a disgruntled player and his parent then took the matter to the Dension Admin. and the force out resulted.  A sad situation if the story is indeed fact.  Craddock is very much respected as a coach by this particular poster and I hope he gets another shot as a head coach next season or even finds work at a higher level.  What he accomplished at Denison is what every lower-middle range program in the midwest would love to see happen to their program.

I've been sitting on this information for several months out of respect to Coach Craddock and my source hoping that the curiosity would go away but the interested baseball fans that you all are have brought the question back to topic.  Hopefully enough time has now passed and the issue is not as sensitive now as last fall.



I thought Craddock's departure from Denison was strange.  I didn't understand why a younger, successful coache suddenly left.  I must say a tiny part of me thought that he may have returned to Wooster to be coach Pettorini's successor when the time came. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 27, 2008, 11:13:46 PM
A disappointing performance from Wooster today, on all counts.  Their pitchers were, for the most part, very ineffective; they didn't swing the bats well; and they made four errors.  Now I know these weren't the frontline Wooster hurlers, but still, the Scots in no way resembled anything close to a nationally-ranked team.

They came back from Florida with an exemplary record, but you really have to wonder.  Their highly-touted pitching now has an E.R.A. of 3.73, which is miles higher than last season's 2.51.  If you remove Mark Miller's terrific 19 and 2/3 innings, in which he has yet to give up an earned run, the Scots' E.R.A. jumps to 4.31.  They are fielding only .949.  Wooster is going to have to seriously improve if they want to get any further into the tournament then they did last year. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 28, 2008, 08:57:07 AM
2 HBP's, 7 walks, and 4 errors = a loss. I know they threw their young guys but you still have to throw strikes and pitch ahead in the count. As far as the 4 errors, typical Wooster defense.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: lancer98 on March 28, 2008, 02:43:44 PM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on March 27, 2008, 06:28:07 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 27, 2008, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: lancer98 on March 27, 2008, 10:35:08 AM
I'm late to the game on this but why is Barry Craddock(sp) no longer the coach at Denison??  Any info??

I do not know why he is no longer at Denison, but I can tell you he's now back at Wooster.  (You probably knew that.)


I hope these quotes transferred over.  I'm still a rookie when it comes to this message board stuff.
Craddock was forced out by the Denison Administration over a personal matter that I do not feel is appropriate to mention publically on this board.  The issue occured in 2006 or early '07 (before the season) and Craddock remained as coach of the Big Red through all of last season despite the occurence.  My sources tell me a disgruntled player and his parent then took the matter to the Dension Admin. and the force out resulted.  A sad situation if the story is indeed fact.  Craddock is very much respected as a coach by this particular poster and I hope he gets another shot as a head coach next season or even finds work at a higher level.  What he accomplished at Denison is what every lower-middle range program in the midwest would love to see happen to their program.

I've been sitting on this information for several months out of respect to Coach Craddock and my source hoping that the curiosity would go away but the interested baseball fans that you all are have brought the question back to topic.  Hopefully enough time has now passed and the issue is not as sensitive now as last fall.

I thought it was strange given the success he had.  I knew he wouldn't leave a head coaching job at Denison to return to Wooster unless there was something fishy going on.

I just wanted to know if he left on his terms or the schools.  By the sounds of your post it was the schools.

I would be interested to know why though???  But then again there are laws about started rumors on the message boards....... ;) ;)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 28, 2008, 05:42:15 PM
After a quick look at the season stats, Woo's leadoff hitter and clean-up hitter are putting up Dave Kingman like stats as far as strikeouts. Clean-up hitter , maybe you can deal with strikeouts. Leadoff hitter needs to know how to get on base. If I'm the coach, I move him to the 6th or 7th hole.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 29, 2008, 11:45:38 AM
I don't know if anyone noticed, but as I was browsing the OAC board yesterday, I came across some good news.  Apparently, the NCAC Baseball board wasn't the only place that Spence made himself a nuisance.  This was a quote from Pat Coleman over on the OAC Football board:

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 24, 2008, 11:58:39 AM
Sorry -- sometimes trolls do get an upper hand when I'm away at the Final Four. Thanks to the person who reported the posts to the moderator, finally, today.

Don't forget to use that link in the corner when necessary.
In other words, the all knowing one has been suspended of his posting privileges yet again! ;D
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 29, 2008, 04:49:21 PM
Wooster gets the Saturday sweep in two well pitched ballgames by both Wooster and Kenyon.  Wooster took the opener 2-1 with Samson getting the win and Miller notching his 8th save of the season.  With that save, Miller, who is only a sophomore, ties the career saves record at Wooster at 16.

In the nightcap, Anthony Trapuzzano had a no hitter through 6 innings of work and was really cruising.  Wooster held a 2-0 lead.  So, you would have thought that Pettorini would give Trap an opportunity to complete his no-no.  At the very least, he could have left him on a short leash.  But, Pettorini didn't even give him the chance.  Maybe Trap didn't have anything left, but I highly doubt he chose to not at least have a chance at finishing off his no-no.  Miller subsequently came in and on his 1st pitch gave up the no-no.  He did regroup to finish off his 9th save which not only breaks the single season mark for saves, but he is now the Scots all-time saves leader in just over one and a half seasons! :o  Congrats to Miller on a great start to your young career!

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 30, 2008, 08:25:33 PM
Allegheny split with Marietta today to move to 3-9.  Please forgive me if this has been discussed already, but what the heck happened to Allegheny?  When I was in school in the late 90's/early 00's they were outstanding.       
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 30, 2008, 10:00:05 PM
Wooster remains perfect in NCAC play completing the weekend sweep of Kenyon by the scores of 10-5 and 15-6!  The offense was showcased today after yesterday's pitching duels. 

Wooster now has a stranglehold on the NCAC East.  They're 8-0 with two 4 game series remaining vs. Hiram and Oberlin.  Kenyon had been 2nd in the conference having taken 3 of 4 from Hiram, but they drop to 3-5 after being swept by Wooster. 

Oberlin and Hiram's 4 game series were a wash due to Hiram's field being unplayable.


Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 30, 2008, 08:25:33 PM
Allegheny split with Marietta today to move to 3-9.  Please forgive me if this has been discussed already, but what the heck happened to Allegheny?  When I was in school in the late 90's/early 00's they were outstanding.       
It's hard to tell.  Allegheny used have a fairly strong athletics program.  Their football team was winning NCAC Championships and even a National Championship in the early to mid 90's.  Their basketball program was also competitive during that time period.  And, like you said, the Gators were also pretty good on the diamond.  They used to be Wooster's main rival along with OWU in the NCAC.  It's really hard to explain Allegheny's decline in all of these programs over the last few years.  It would be nice for the NCAC for the Gators to get back to their levels of competitiveness they had in the '90's.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 31, 2008, 02:29:46 AM
The NCAC ought to, at the very least, offer some harsh words to the Hiram athletic department.  On a weekend when not a drop of rain fell, and every other school had no problem playing their ballgames, Hiram was unable to do so.  Their baseball facility, even when playable, is barely up to poor high school standards.  It's no wonder their program on the field is so poor, when the field itself leads the way.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 31, 2008, 09:32:54 AM
Seeing as how the NCAC Baseball page seems a little behind, I thought I would take the time to update the standings out west.  Things in the East seem to be pretty clear, but that isn't the case out west.

Denison and OWU split their 4 game series over the weekend.  With the split, Denison dropped to 6-2 in the NCAC-west.  OWU improved to 3-5.  Wabash had a 4 game non-conference affair with Case.  Their only conference action was when they took 3 of 4 vs. OWU.  They sit in 2nd out west with a 3-1 record.  Things might clear up a little next weekend when Wabash hosts Denison for 4.  Witt is bringing up the rear BTW.  They are currently just 1-5! ;D  The EC is 1-1.  They split their DH with Witt on Saturday and Sunday's DH was ppd.

There's still a lot of baseball to be played out west, but it looks like a 3 horse race for the 2 spots available for the NCAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 31, 2008, 10:34:09 PM
Thanks for the NCAC West recap Scottsfan.

For the record, Wabash took 3 of 4 from Case this weekend to improve to 13-9.
To say the 4 game affair with Denison this weekend is huge may be an understatement.  This is the biggest series in Wabash Baseball history since joining the conference.  I hope the boys are ready to represent.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 01, 2008, 10:23:02 AM
I'm not familiar with the history of the NCAC baseball East/West divisions. Was the conference always divided in this fashion?

I'm just throwing this out there for some opinions. I propose all 10 teams play a 2 games series against each other and then taking the top 4 teams for the tourney. I think that would give a better sampling of the strength of the conference, plus make the season more meaningful. Example: Woo sweeps 4 game series from Allegheny and Kenyon, virtually assuring them of the top spot in the East while 3 teams in the West are still battling for playoff position.
I know the travel may be an issue but, I would like to see more competitive baseball throughout the season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 01, 2008, 01:10:38 PM
It hasn't been that long since the split into two divisions.  I'm sure somebody knows exactly, but I'd say somewhere between 7 and 10 years?  At first, after the split, there were three-game intra-division series, now it's four.  And, I'm pretty sure that you're correct, the split was done for travel purposes.  When the split occured, Allegheny's program was strong, so the east was always a two-team race.  Now, with them falling way off, the east is pretty horrible and certainly not competitive for the first spot.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 01, 2008, 03:12:17 PM
Kenyon's program seems to be improving.  At least they are much improved from the days when Wooster and Allegheny dominated the East.  Last weekend, that Saturday DH could have gone either way.  Wooster just managed a couple more timely hits than the Lords did.  And on Sunday, the lack of depth shown in a big way for Kenyon.

Personally, I would rather see something like old scot described where every team played 2 game sets like they do in the OAC.  Rotate the home and away season by season like in football.  I just think the 4 game series are too predictable.  The other teams in the division might give Wooster one or two close games, but then Wooster's depth kicks in and they ususally end up with blowouts on Sunday.  I think this would be very benificial to a team like Wooster to prepare them better for post-season play as well.  They would be seeing better pitching from the entire conference as opposed to a couple of Kenyon's or Allegheny's best and that's about it.  But, alas.  This appears to be what we are stuck with...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 01, 2008, 04:11:20 PM
Young baseball coach at Denison University, coaching players he played with,
has the team winning again.

1. in the school paper this week:  http://tinyurl.com/2laox6

2. and earlier in the Newark paper:  http://tinyurl.com/2uysek
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 01, 2008, 05:20:05 PM
Scotsfan, I agree. Denison seems to have a nice team, along with Wabash. O.W. has split a series with the Scots. I just think a 10 team division would give the conference more credibility as far as strength of schedule.
I think Woo needs to schedule the Akrons, Kent States, Cleveland States, Ashlands, Daytons, Wright States etc. to get them playoff ready.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 03, 2008, 05:49:36 PM
After 6 innings, Wooster and Otterbein tied at 5's. Scots defense has already committed 4 errors.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 03, 2008, 06:12:12 PM
Listening to the Wooster game and some of the things that happened makes me wonder about the coaching or lack of it.
In the 7th, Woo leads off with a double. With 1 out the runner tries to steal 3rd and gets thrown out. Next batter singles. Loss of a potential run.
With 2 outs and runners on 1st and 2nd the catcher picks the runner off first base.
These mistakes reflect lack of fundamentals not being taught by the coaching staff or lack of discipline by the team.
Getting caught trying to steal 3rd while in scoring position is unacceptable. Getting picked of first with a runner in front of you is just plain stupid.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 03, 2008, 06:38:01 PM
Final from Otterbein, 7-6 Wooster win.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 03, 2008, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: old scot on April 03, 2008, 06:12:12 PM
Listening to the Wooster game and some of the things that happened makes me wonder about the coaching or lack of it.
In the 7th, Woo leads off with a double. With 1 out the runner tries to steal 3rd and gets thrown out. Next batter singles. Loss of a potential run.
With 2 outs and runners on 1st and 2nd the catcher picks the runner off first base.
These mistakes reflect lack of fundamentals not being taught by the coaching staff or lack of discipline by the team.
Getting caught trying to steal 3rd while in scoring position is unacceptable. Getting picked of first with a runner in front of you is just plain stupid.

While I didn't listen to the game, I have to say what you have described is a bit disturbing.  Why would you try and steal 3rd with nobody out?  If the baserunner did it on his own, I hope he got a serious ass chewing in the dugout!  If he was told to steal by Pettorini, that is just poor coaching.  At the very least, bunt the runner over!  Oh, wait.  That would require fundamentals...

It seems that ugly word, fundamentals, has reared it's ugly head yet again!  Four errors through 6 innings.  Multiple baserunning gaffs.  This is stuff you would expect to see worked out in the first week or two of the season.  But we're well over half way into the season and there seems to be no improvement being shown?!  I'm already resigning myself for another early post-season exit.  Maybe they'll surprise me, but I'm not going to raise my expectations...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 04, 2008, 02:25:11 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 03, 2008, 07:09:20 PM
I'm already resigning myself for another early post-season exit.  Maybe they'll surprise me, but I'm not going to raise my expectations...

It must be rough....making the NCAA tournament every single year.   ::)

I'm sure there are some other teams that would love the opportunity if Wooster wants to decline the invitation and let somebody else try it out. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 04, 2008, 05:13:39 PM
Being a fan of the now-lowly Giants, I was watching them earlier today in Milwaukee against the Brewers.  The Giants' starter was Jonathan Sanchez, and at one point one of the announcers mentioned that he had been a legendary NAIA pitcher, having thrown four no-hitters.  Then they said that Ohio Dominican had been his school, where he pitched for four years before being drafted in 2004.  Knowing that Wooster had been playing ODU back in those days, I checked the Scots statistical archive.  Sure enough, back in 2002 Sanchez went eight innings to down Wooster, 5-4, ending their winning streak at sixteen in a row.

http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/boxes/2001/ohiodominican.php
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 04, 2008, 07:23:10 PM
W.B., it could be worse, you could be a Pirate fan. Fifteen straight years of less than .500 baseball.
The last time they made the playoffs or had a winning record was 1992. Barry Bonds final year as a Bucco, pre-roids era.( not hemorrhoids)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 05, 2008, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 04, 2008, 07:23:10 PM
W.B., it could be worse, you could be a Pirate fan. Fifteen straight years of less than .500 baseball.
The last time they made the playoffs or had a winning record was 1992. Barry Bonds final year as a Bucco, pre-roids era.( not hemorrhoids)
I didn't know there were still Pirate fans out there!  ;)  :D  At least the Pirates have been able to celebrate a World Series champion in the last oh, I don't know, 100 years or so...  Being a cubs fan, I'm beginning to wonder when next year will be now...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 05, 2008, 03:50:20 PM
Wabash hits a walk-off HR in the bottom of the 10th to down Denison in game 1.  The NCAC-West race has just gotten white-hot!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 05, 2008, 05:43:00 PM
Denison turns a 6-4-3 DP in the bottom of the 7th to gain the split with a 3-1 victory.  JD Wyborny throws a complete game one-hitter for the Big Red.

Denison moves to 7-3 in conference, Wabash is 4-2.  Same two teams tomorrow for another DH.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 06, 2008, 08:17:12 PM
Get away day in C'ville...Denison wins game 3 of the series 4-0 while Wabash closes the series with a 2-1 win to split the four game set.  Wabash has four games in Richmond next weekend. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 06, 2008, 11:54:29 PM
It's over.  After 71 consecutive victories over the Oberlin Yeoman, dating back to 1986, Wooster dropped the second game of today's doubleheader, 4-2.  Congrats to Oberlin, and may you have more luck this next time around, and produce another win over the Scots sometime before the 2030 season.

Anti-kudos, though, to your athletic department, or whoever is in charge of producing the web broadcasts and live stats that you bragged you would have for BOTH doubleheaders.  C'mon, you guys are supposed to be the flagship of academia in the NCAC.  Schools have been doing this for years now, it can't be that difficult.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 07, 2008, 08:52:22 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 06, 2008, 11:54:29 PM
It's over.  After 71 consecutive victories over the Oberlin Yeoman, dating back to 1986, Wooster dropped the second game of today's doubleheader, 4-2. 
I'll echo my congrats to the Yeomen on ending that incredible streak! 

Some food for thought...  I would wager that none of those guys playing this season for the Yeomen were even born the last time Wooster lost to Oberlin.  :)

I guess all streaks come to an end sooner or later.  Unless we're talking about the Kenyon men's swimming team and their stranglehold on the DIII championships...  :o
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 07, 2008, 09:29:09 AM
Well, nothing was settled between Denison and Wabash over the weekend.  Updated NCAC West standings among the top 3:

Denison - 8-4
Wabash - 5-3
OWU     - 7-5

OWU picked up a big 4 game sweep of The EC over the weekend to put themselves right back in this race for the NCAC tournament.

Denison appears to be safe in locking up a tournament spot as they host The EC for a 4 game set the weekend of the 19th.  If they sweep the Quakers, they're in.  If they only manage to take 3 of 4, however, that still keeps OWU's hopes alive and also opens the door for Wabash to take the West.  OWU is looking like they're going to need another sweep this weekend at Witt to give themselves a shot.  One more loss and I think the Bishops odds at finishing in the top 2 go way down.

Meanwhile, Wabash still has to play 4 game sets at The EC and they host Witt the following week.  However, they are the only team that still controls it's own destiny.  If they can sweep both The EC and Witt, they win the west.  But, even if the Lil Giants manage to take just 3-4 the next two weekends, they would still finsih with just 5 losses.  And OWU already has 5 so even with a sweep of Witt, the Bishops could finish no better than a tie with Wabash in that scenario.  And OWU dropped 3 of 4 to Wabash giving the tie-breaker to Wabash.  At least that's how I would assume it would go.

All in all, the west looks like it should be a fun race to watch over the next 2 weekends to see who ends up at Granville for the NCAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 07, 2008, 09:44:25 AM
The NCAC East is a more muddied picture because so many teams still have a lot of games yet to be played.  Wooster only needs one win over Hiram next weekend and one more Oberlin loss to clinch the top spot in the east.  They sit atop the standings at 11-1.  Kenyon is the only other team in the division with 12 games under their belt and they sit in 2nd at 6-6.  If Kenyon could manage a sweep at Oberlin this weekend, they would be looking pretty solid at the number 2 spot.  However, even with Allegheny only being 1-7 in conference play, they still have an outside shot at catching Kenyon.  With their remaining conference action being Oberlin and Hiram, it's not inconcievable for the Gators to go 8-0 which would leave them 9-7.  They would then have to hope for the Lords to drop more than 1 to surging Oberlin.  ;)  It's a tall order, but the Gators aren't done just yet...

Of course, Kenyon could end all of the drama by just taking 3 of 4 this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bufordscot on April 11, 2008, 07:58:50 AM
sure is quiet here since they booted Spence
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryder16 on April 11, 2008, 11:25:04 AM
so what pitchers have impressed everyone the most this year, I am especially anxious to hear about the West division

I will refrain from commenting as I have only seen Wooster, Oberlin, and Kenyon
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on April 11, 2008, 06:27:15 PM
Quote from: bufordscot on April 11, 2008, 07:58:50 AM
sure is quiet here since they booted Spence

lol.....someone is just asking for trouble when he returns (if he returns).

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 14, 2008, 09:50:01 AM
Just my observation of Wooster's season so far.
1) Pitching staff is good but not overpowering. The top teer pitchers don't seem to be dominating the opposition and the 3 thru 6,7 have not improved like the coaching staff had thought.
2) Offense has put up some decent numbers, a pleasant surprise. I would like to see them cut down on K,s and be more selective at the plate. Thus far they seem to be getting timely hitting to win some close games.
3) Defense, average or below. Much room for improvement.

I'm not familiar with pool c bids but, I think the Scots need to win the NCAC tourney to secure a bid. If they don't fair well in their up coming games against OAC opponents, I think this will be their only avenue to the regionals.
Finally, Woo's national ranking will probably drop to the mid teens where I think they belong. Hopefully the team can pick up its game at the right time of the season. Remember, its more important how you finish the year than how you start.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 16, 2008, 08:18:08 PM
An update on the very competitive NCAC West race for tourney spots (from a Wabash perspective of course).

http://www2.wabash.edu/blog/sidnotes/

Wabash may have squandered a golden opportunity by only splitting the 2 games with Earlham on Monday.  A lot of work left starting with 4 against Witt this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 16, 2008, 09:28:42 PM
So, the west looks like this:

Wabash 6-4 (4 home against Wittenberg, 2 on the road at Earlham)
Denison 8-4 (4 home against Earlham)
Ohio Wesleyan 10-6

I'm assuming Wabash wins a tiebreaker with OWU as they took that series.  OWU and Denison split, but the Bishops outscored The Big Red 21-7, if that means anything.  Denison and Wabash split, the Big Red winning the run-differential 13-9.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 19, 2008, 02:51:40 PM
Game 1 goes to Wabash by a score of 3-1.  Mike Korfhagen goes the distance for the LGs, limiting the Tigers to just four hits.  Three more wins and Wabash enters the NCAC postseason for the first time. 

Game 2 is in the books and Wittenberg gains a Saturday split with a 5-0 win.  Witt's Tim Antil twirled a 3-hit shutout for the Tigers.  The series will conclude tomorrow with two more games at Mud Hollow.  Wabash still needs 3 wins in their remaing four games (two with Witt, two with Earlham) to qualify for the NCAC tournament.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryder16 on April 19, 2008, 06:07:06 PM
wooster wins 2 against Hiram, with neither game being close. the winds were blowing out at art murray field and both teams hitters took advantage ! congrats to the scots to being the first team to make the NCAC tourney !

I dont know if anyone was there or heard anything but one of hirams pitchers took a line drive off his throwing hand that was hit hard enough to roll nearly to the dugout after hitting him, he immediately left the game, anyone know the status of that young fella, I hope he is alright !
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Li'l Giant on April 20, 2008, 04:00:35 PM
Sigh.....

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Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 21, 2008, 06:33:56 PM
L.G.,
      A picture is worth a thousand words. Better luck in the furture. I personally would like to see the NCAC play a 2 game set beween all the confernce teams rather than having a East/West division.
       
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 23, 2008, 10:15:23 AM
From the "Bad to Worse" File...Wabash remains 0 for the millenium against DePauw after being swept in a twinbill last night.  That runs Wabash's losing streak against the Tigers to an agonizing 17 games (by my count).   :(
Title: Tough love
Post by: D3 Poster on April 25, 2008, 12:12:13 AM
Just reading the Woo paper and the ol' ball coach is quoted saying 'most unsatisfying 30-6 he can imagine'

I miss the Pettorini/Schaly rivalry...good baseball stuff!

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 25, 2008, 09:36:42 AM
D3, I read the same article.

Pettorini sounds like he is worried that if Woo doesn't win the NCAC tourney they may not get a pool C bid to the NCAA's. I would have to agree, with regional loses to BW, OWU, and Oberlin. They also have the potential to ring up a few more L's to regional teams with their remaining schedule.

Pretty harsh words from the coach. Maybe he is trying to motivate his team?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 28, 2008, 09:28:50 AM
Wooster splits with Hiram Sunday.

Loses to Hiram and Oberlin in the same season. Ouch, that hurts.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 02, 2008, 09:30:03 AM
What has happened to all the Wooster posters?

What do tou think their chances are against OWU and the NCAC tourney?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 02, 2008, 10:10:08 AM
There isn't much to say when you lose to the likes of Oberlin and Hiram.  But maybe now there's been a bit of a resurgance of spirit after the comeback win over JCU and the defeat of Ohio Northern.  We'll see soon enough.

Bubba O'Donnell has been playing some third base and has looked very good on that side of the infield.  I like that lineup, which should include John Warren at second.  Here's what I would do:

Karpen, LF - Get him to the plate often.
Sankal, CF
Skulina, 1B - Can swing the bat, but I still think his shoulder is bothering him.
Christenson, RF - Getting hot?  I hope.
Groezinger, DH
Swearingen, C - A far better OBP than anyone below him.
Warren, 2B - Limited at bats, but a pretty good stick.
Johnson, SS - Maybe coming around at the plate.
O'Donnell, 3B - Mostly a good glove, but improved at the plate.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 02, 2008, 11:54:31 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 02, 2008, 09:30:03 AM
What has happened to all the Wooster posters?

What do tou think their chances are against OWU and the NCAC tourney?
I've been laying low lately.  I guess I was taking the old addage that if you don't have anything nice to say, it's better to say nothing at all...

At least Wooster has a bit of momentum going into this weekend's series with OWU.  As far as how I think the Scots will fare, it's really hard to tell.   I really don't see one team that has a clear edge in a short series like this one.  Wooster's ERA is about a point lower than OWU's.  Wooster is batting about 80 points higher as a team and scoring a little over a run more per game as well.  Surprisingly Wooster also has almost twice as many stolen base attempts.  Defensively, both Wooster and OWU appear to be about dead even as Wooster comes in with a .954 and the Bishops are just slightly better at .958. 

IMO, if Wooster can get Samson and Trap to perform to the levels they were expected to this season, I think the Scots are in good shape.  If this goes to a decisive 3rd game, who knows what could happen. 

Even though Wooster's pitching depth isn't as good as many had hoped, I sill feel that the Scots' depth is better than OWU's.  The thing that scares me is the fact that the West appears to be much stronger than the east this year.  OWU is battle tested much moreso than Wooster IMO.  Will that play to an advantage for the Bishops?

One more question.  If Wooster fails to advance to the NCAC Finals, is their season over?  I have a hard time believing they will gain an at large bid if they lose to OWU this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 02, 2008, 05:15:07 PM
I think Woo needs to win the NCAC to get in. They have to many bad loses to regional teams and not enough quality wins to their season.

Sampson and Trapuzzano have not had All American seasons. Very average, not even close to dominating.

They way the OAC tourney pans out will have some effect on the pool C bids handed out to the NCAC.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 03, 2008, 06:10:49 PM
In the bottom of the 7th, Wooster leads OWU 14-4.

Denison beats Kenyon 15-3.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 03, 2008, 07:10:22 PM
Wooster wins game one 14-7.

DH starts Sunday at 1:00 PM. Todays action did not commence untill 3:30 PM.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 04, 2008, 07:36:42 PM
Wooster gets sweep today, 6-3 & 14-6.

I would have to say their season is over. They never showed they were a dominant team all year. The season may have produced some bright spots but overall, I fell they under achieved.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 04, 2008, 07:58:31 PM
congratulations to OWU and Denison on their series victories.  Gives me some solace to see the NCAC-West perform well and it shows that the division was very competitive this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 05, 2008, 10:59:40 AM
There is one real question regarding this year's Scot baseball team, and that is "What happened to the pitching, which was expected to be so stellar?"  Nearly every Wooster hurler fell off from his performance of last season, and in the end, that was the key to the team's demise.

But there are other things.  As has become all to common with Scot teams, they simply cannot throw the ball around the diamond without it getting loose and producing problems.  Every year Wooster is able to outslug most of it's opponents, but when tournament time arrives and the calibre of the opposition rises, the Scots' mediocre defense begins to take its toll.

And then there are the coaching decisions, decisions in which the situation was completely over-analyzed instead of just letting the player swing the bat. 

Game one, fourth inning: A suicide squeeze, on the first pitch, with the bases loaded and Wooster down two runs?  Unbelievable!  Then, when the hitter doesn't make contact on a pitch that was high and a foot outside (the runner, of course, being out at the plate by a mile) the coach states that the hitter didn't execute?  Man.

Game one, fifth inning: Pinch-hitting for the number-three hitter in the fifth inning, to BUNT, in a clutch situation?  This was your three-hitter (I don't think he should have been, but that's another story); if he wasn't a man that you wanted up there in that crucial spot, why did you put him there in the first place?

Game two, fourth inning: Men on first and second, nobody out.  Matthew Johnson is given the signal to bunt.  No problem, except that Wooster is down THREE runs at the time, in a game that is giving every indication that it's going to be high scoring.  Wooster absolutely needs to play for the big inning, not TWO runs, which is what you're doing if you bunt in that situation.  Besides, with the exception of O'Donnell, nobody on Wooster can bunt, and Johnson popped out to the catcher.

Every year in tournament time it comes down to this.  When the level of pitching improves and the Scots cannot outslug their opponent, they are in big trouble.  Their attempts at little ball fail for two reasons: they not only cannot execute (probably because not enough time is spent on this) but the plays are called at all the wrong times and instead of aiding the team only proceed to shoot them in their collective feet.  Unless this changes, and it hasn't in years, the Scots will continue to disappoint.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 05, 2008, 05:37:39 PM
WB, were you at the game?

Trying to squeeze with the bases loaded makes no sense at all with the potential force out at home.

Pinch hitting for your 3 hole hitter with a bunt, no way.

I don't have a problem with trying to bunt runners into scoring position being 3 runs down in the 4th inning. The batter must execute though. I wonder how many times during the year players were called upon to make this happen? You can't just flash the sign for a SAC bunt or squeeze and expect it to happen if it wasn't practiced with conviction in pre-season.

As I have stated before, repetition is the mother of education. Without proper preparation you can't just assume it will happen.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 05, 2008, 06:05:56 PM
I was at all three Wooster-OWU games this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 05, 2008, 07:26:35 PM
WB, as I read your take on the series, Wooster failed in coaching strategies as well as preparation on fundamentals?

This is only my reading into the future. Pettorini retires ether this year or next and Craddock becomes head coach. Coach P has been their long enough and I'm sure he is tired of the grind. Maybe new leadership will take Wooster to the next level with consistency.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCAC4Life on May 05, 2008, 09:18:30 PM
Old Scot,

Please take these words from an Old Bishop player in the way they are meant. As a former football and baseball player at OWU, I competed against Coach P in both sports. He is a good man and a great baseball coach. He has always been hard on his players and his teams have always been known for power and strong arms. Never for defense or the short game. He also has made a few trips to the College World Series and finished as high as 2nd. I loved the old match ups between our schools. It is great to see it continues.

There is a reason Coach Craddock is at Wooster today and not at Denison. Never saw an NCAC title under him for the Big Red or an NCAA bid. Be happy with what you have. The Scots have the head coach they need and I for one, hope he stays for a long time. He has brought national respect to the Wooster program and that helps the NCAC.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 05, 2008, 09:38:19 PM
coach P has definitely built a strong program, but as I've seen over the last 12 years, Wooster has had way too many REALLY GOOD teams that haven't made the World Series.  I would've guess that they would have a World Series title by now, but then again, those aren't easy to come by.

Regardless of what happens with Coach P, Wooster will be a top program in the region for years and years.

But I agree that the coaching needs to emphasize a little more fundamental baseball, and not so much on dropping the back shoulder and swinging for the fences all the time.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 05, 2008, 09:58:52 PM
NCAC4life,I would not classify someone as a great coach if they don't teach defense or the fundamentals to play small ball. I know coach P, played for him for a year.
Bob Morgan, the prior coach, ran circles around Pettorini as far as teaching the game and fundamentals. He was a stickler for drills and repeating different game situations during practices. When these situations came up in a game, all you had to do was react because we were well schooled before hand. Coach P was not even close to preparing a team like Morgan.
As far as a coach you would want to play for, I'll take coach P. He was more personable with his players and treated you with mutual respect.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 05, 2008, 10:50:13 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 05, 2008, 10:59:40 AM
Every year in tournament time it comes down to this.  When the level of pitching improves and the Scots cannot outslug their opponent, they are in big trouble.  Their attempts at little ball fail for two reasons: they not only cannot execute (probably because not enough time is spent on this) but the plays are called at all the wrong times and instead of aiding the team only proceed to shoot them in their collective feet.  Unless this changes, and it hasn't in years, the Scots will continue to disappoint.   

Well said WB.  This is also a result of the double edged sword of playing in the NCAC.  Wooster's record is inflated by bludgeoning their lowly conference opponents (although that didn't even happen this season).  And as a result, there are rarely situations that present Wooster the opportunity to work on small ball.  And as old scot stated that, "repetition is the mother of all education," I would argue that this applies not just to practice, but to actual game time as well.  It's one thing to execute a bunt in practice, but to do it in an actual game when the pressure is on is entirely different.  And the reality is, just how many times this season were the Scots presented with those types of situations? 

In the end, you have to wonder if Pettorini has just become so accustomed to pounding teams to oblivion, that he has slowly allowed the emphasis on small ball to diminish.  At least one thing positive has happened this season.  I never bought into this team's lofty ranking and I never really had high expectations when it came time for post-season play, so to see them bow out in the manner they did really didn't come as much of a surprise to me.  :-\
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 05, 2008, 11:06:50 PM
One last thing to add from Wooster's disappointing weekend result.  I just read the writeup in the Daily Record and the following quote stood out quite profoundly:

Quote from: Coach Pettorini in the Wooster Daily Record"I don't think it was pressure," he said. "They just outplayed us in all phases -- they outpitched us, outhit us, out-fielded us and out-executed us."

Anyone notice one glaring omission?  How about they OUTCOACHED us.  After all,  you probably wouldn't have been outhit, out-pitched, out-fielded and out-executed if you hadn't been OUTCOACHED to begin with...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 06, 2008, 11:03:24 AM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on May 04, 2008, 07:58:31 PM
congratulations to OWU and Denison on their series victories.  Gives me some solace to see the NCAC-West perform well and it shows that the division was very competitive this year.

Ditto.  These two teams split their regular season series, which was also played at Denison.  It should be a really good series in Granville this weekend. 

Here's some funny business...per the NCAC website, Wabash and Allegheny officially tie for fifth in baseball based on the divisional standings..all of this despite Wabash having posted a better record (9-7 vs. 8-8) against the stronger division.  Not that Wabash can ever possibly win the All-Sports trophy, but come on!  Every point counts!   :o
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 06, 2008, 11:21:01 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 05, 2008, 10:59:40 AM
And then there are the coaching decisions, decisions in which the situation was completely over-analyzed instead of just letting the player swing the bat. 

Game one, fourth inning: A suicide squeeze, on the first pitch, with the bases loaded and Wooster down two runs?  Unbelievable!  Then, when the hitter doesn't make contact on a pitch that was high and a foot outside (the runner, of course, being out at the plate by a mile) the coach states that the hitter didn't execute?  Man.

Baseball is a funny game.  I was always taught that when the squeeze was on, it was incumbent upon the batter to put bat on ball...no matter what.  Under no circumstance can you hang that runner out to dry.  During my playing days I remember a kid actually jumping vertically in order to put a bat on a ball that was way high with a squeeze on (he did his job...fouled the ball off and kept the runner alive).  Whether or not the squeeze should have been on in the first place is another issue altogether.  Looking at the play by play I'm inclined to say that the squeeze wasn't a good idea there.  Wooster had homered in consecutive innings, loaded the bases and seemed to have stolen the momentum...unless the coach was so convinced that the #9 hitter was going to bounce into a double play and end the inning (and if you've got that little confidence in a kid to do a little situational hitting, then what's he doing in the game in the first place?) then I think you have to let the offense work.  Looks to me like Pettorini was looking for the safest way to roll that lineup back over to the top with the bases still loaded.  If he could steal an extra run in the process, even better. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 06, 2008, 05:03:54 PM
Wally, you are correct. When the squeeze is on it is imperative that  the batter puts the ball on the ground or foul it off. Squeezing with the bases loaded makes no sense.

Point well taken to try to turn over the order but, the batter homered twice the day before. I would think his confidence level at the plate should have been high. Swing away, base hit, grand slam, or DP, I would have taken that chance.

It's easy to be an arm chair coach. Baseball is a game of percentages. I'm just saying use them to your advantage.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 06, 2008, 05:31:15 PM
I have been reading some posts on the national topics board regarding pool C bids. Many think Wooster is a lock for a pool C.
I don't think that will happen. Based on the NCAC playoffs they are the third best team in the NCAC.
I don't know when the next regional rankings come out but, I would have to place them third at best with Heidelberg and Denison above them.
When the OAC tournament plays out, I'm sure this will impact the pool C bids handed out within the Mid East. Coach P himself said he would be shocked if they get in.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 06, 2008, 05:42:22 PM
I agree with you, old scot.  Based on the play by play that I read and based on what I've read about Wooster through this thread, I don't think the squeeze was the right play.  Wooster doesn't sound like a "small ball" kind of team and the call to squeeze there seemed to be a call made to change things up just for the sake of changing things up.  By the time you get to tournament time, I believe you've got to go with what has gotten you to that point which, in Wooster's case, is smashing the ball all over the diamond. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 07, 2008, 08:44:20 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on May 06, 2008, 05:42:22 PM
By the time you get to tournament time, I believe you've got to go with what has gotten you to that point which, in Wooster's case, is smashing the ball all over the diamond. 
And this is why Wooster has struggled once they get to tournament time the past few years.  Come tournament time, you had better be able to play small ball because you will be facing arguably the best pitching you've seen all season.  Wooster doesn't really work on playing small ball throughout the regular season because the opponents they face predominantly don't warrant them doing so.  And that makes this squeeze decision even more puzzling.  That was the time to start playing small ball when suddenly you are faced with an unexpected elimination game, with the bases loaded and a guy at the plate who had homered twice the day before?  ???
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 07, 2008, 11:28:47 AM
This is all very true.  In the tournaments, the competition is better and a team has to be able to sacrifice some outs to manufacture a run here and there.  You need to look no further than Oregon State, winners of the last two CWS titles, to see how a small ball approach can take you all the way.  Nether of the two lineups that OS put forth during their championship runs were particularly scary but what they could do is draw a walk, swipe a bag, sac a guy to third, and get a fly ball to score the run.  That's how the Beavers score...then let the pitchers and defense work.  It's definitely a much different makeup of a champion than the gorilla ball LSU teams in the 90s. 

But I digest...it's easy to second guess Pettorini about these things because they didn't work.  I think some attention should be paid to the six errors Wooster made in Sunday's doubleheader as well as the 11 walks issued.  Mediocre pitching and poor defense is as much at fault here as any play Pettorini may or may not have called.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 07, 2008, 06:20:26 PM
Wally,
       Good point. The way I see it 6 errors and 11 walks and up to 17 additional outs and 17 base runners. You know what they say regarding football, defense wins championships. I think it rings true for baseball, also.

Yes, physical mistakes will happen but, they should not be compounded by coaching errors. With 27+ years, coach P should be a rock in strategies. Like Scots Fan has stated, maybe he is to comfortable with beating his opponents into oblivion.
I knew a coach that said, " If the opportunity presents itself, I'll play for 1 run every inning. I like my chances of winning in that situation." AKA small ball works if practiced, like your reference to OSU.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 07, 2008, 08:02:42 PM
But there is also the old adage (might have been Earl Weaver) that says, "If you play for one run, you will only get one run."  Meaning, usually, there goes the hope for the big inning.

Wooster's pitching has not lived up to expectations, and that now includes everyone on the staff, even Mark Miller, who has been getting hit hard of late.  The defense has been, well, the Wooster defense.  Way too loose almost all over the field.  They just don't throw and catch the ball well, and that is such a root issue I don't even know what to say about it.

But the little-ball, coaching-decision issue is different.  First of all, over the last few years, Wooster has tried to integrate more small-ball tactics into their offense, and the idea of doing this was a good thing.  It implies that the coaching staff has recognized the necessity of having this in the arsenal at tournament time. 

They've tried to steal more bases, and for the most part, the execution and choice of when-to-go has been fine.  No problem.

It's the bunting (I almost typed bungling - Freudian slip) and hit-and-runs that have really hurt them.

Year after year, the Wooster players, with some rare exceptions, have not been good bunters.  So, even if you call upon them to do so in the right game situation, it ISN'T a good game-decision, because you're putting a man into a spot where he's probably not going to succeed.  How much they actually work on this in practice, I don't know.  But I've seen lots of other teams that are much more skilled at moving runners along than The Scots.  My conclusion: work on this, seriously, early in the season.

Wooster does much worse with the hit-and-run, which is a more complex tactic.  If you don't understand the nuances, you're better off just leaving this club out of your bag. 

What Wooster doesn't get is that the goal of setting the runner in motion is to advance him and to stay out of the double play.  Period.  Getting a base hit is gravy.  Getting an extra-base hit REALLY SHOULDN'T HAPPEN, because the hitter should be trying to keep the ball on the ground.  The Scots are not bad at hitting the ball to the right side.  But they don't hit the ball down, and have hit into lots of line drive double plays when starting the runner.  Bad luck?  Somewhat.  But luck is the residue of design, or lack of it.  You're supposed to be hitting ground balls, and when you don't, you may not get good results.

The hit-and-run play is game-situational.  Do you use it when down 3 or more runs?  No, certainly not often and with anyone who's got some power, because, as mentioned above, you should be shortening up on your swing and placing the ball, vastly reducing the chance of an extra-base hit.

The hit-and-run is also count-situational.  2-1 is good, 2-0 or 3-1 are better.  You want the pitcher to need to throw a strike so your man can get a ball to hit.  If you do it with your guy behind in the count, you'd better have a bonafide basestealer out there.

Wooster not only attempts to hit-and-run in too many wrong situations but doesn't execute well.  Much more work needs to be done in this area.

The less said about suicide squeezes the better. 
 





Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 07, 2008, 09:03:03 PM
WB,
    Playing for 1 run vs the big inning isn't very sexy but, one per inning is 9. As a coach I like my chance for a W with that number.

On the matter of bunting, maybe the players are not schooled properly on a simple technique. You need to make contact about a foot or18"in front of the plate. This gives you a larger margin of error. Cushion the ball with the bat and most importantly, bunt STRIKES.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 07, 2008, 09:44:53 PM
Yes, one per inning is nine.  So, exactly how do you implement that strategy of playing for one run an inning?  You can make a good go of it if your lead-off man gets on, but you'll be lucky if that happens 45% of the time even at the DIII level.  What if your first man makes an out and your second hitter gets to first?  Steal, sure, if he can.  But sacrificing with one out only leaves you one shot at getting the man home; not too good. 

Baseball strategy is a rolling process, based upon multitudes of factors.  That's what makes the game interesting.  Before making any decision you need to take into account your team's personnel and their abilities, the score, the number of outs, all that stuff and much more.  If you go into each inning with a pre-plan to try to score one run you'll surely end up with fewer runs for the game than if you analyze each situation as it's put before you.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on May 07, 2008, 10:51:49 PM
Speaking of coaching and strategy, how cool is it that both the teams in the NCAC finals this week are led by young interim coaches, Tyler Mott (OWU, 2004) and Justin Dedman (Denison, 2005).

OWU has nearly the same overall record it had last year. That's 27-16 overall in 2007, 26-16 overall in 2008; 13-3 in the conference last year for 1st in the West, 10-6 this year for 2nd in the West. OWU had a rough start in the conference, but the players hung in there with the new coach, and then embarrassed Wooster in the 1st round of the tournament.

Denison is much improved. That's 19-18 overall in 2007, 26-16 overall in 2008; 12-4 in the conference last year for 2nd in the West; 12-4 this year for 1st in the West. Denison got off to a hot start, with players much happier playing for a positive coach. Despite having only four seniors on the team, they easily won the West. And beat Wooster, too, splitting the two games during the season.

Good luck to both teams on Thursday (if the rain lets up) and Friday.

One of those young coaches is going to be coaching in the NCAA tournament next week!

Audio of the games is supposed to be here:

http://www.denison.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/ba_ncachome08.html

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 08, 2008, 08:15:40 AM
WB,
     I guess I like to think outside the box. Yes, baseball is a situational game and your coaching techniques must adapt to your personnel at a specific moment and the situation.
My idea of playing for one run is a coaching and team philosophy. Getting a runner into scoring position does not always mean a SAC bunt. Steal, hit&run, bunt&run, force balk by the pitcher are ways to do it. I believe playing for one run starts soon as the batter makes contact. Running hard out of the box, aggressive turns at first toward second. Constantly trying to put pressure on the defense to field it cleanly or make a perfect throw. When your team get the reputation of being able to use"all the tools in the tool box" it opens up other options.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on May 08, 2008, 07:04:57 PM
Granville report: They're waiting, hoping the rain will pass. Start time was moved from 6 to 7. Now it's after 7 and it looks like they'll be waiting a while longer.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on May 08, 2008, 09:13:05 PM
Rained out tonight. Games are on for 11 a.m. Friday, according to the Denison Web site.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 09, 2008, 10:22:59 AM
Quote from: 75westbound on May 07, 2008, 10:51:49 PM
...and then embarrassed Wooster in the 1st round of the tournament.

Welcome to the board 75westbound. 

I just had one question for you though.  Exactly how was Wooster embarrassed by OWU in the 1st round of the tournament?  Maybe if the Bishops had swept Wooster and won each game convincingly, your argument might be valid.  But that was hardly the case.  Are you now implying that losing to OWU is embarrassing?  Because I saw two teams that were pretty evenly matched.  You have to remember that Wooster's record is a bit inflated because of the weakness of the NCAC East compared to the West.  Which, in turn, leads them to be over ranked in the DIII polls.  Put Wooster in the West and I would guess their record would not have been as good and probably more along the lines of Denison and OWU.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on May 09, 2008, 02:51:31 PM
OWU won the first game of today's possible three, 5-2. Complete-game win for Sean Speed. James Clear took the lost for Denison, also pitching a complete game.

(On the question of embarrassment, calm down. As the coach himself said, the team was outhit, outpitched, etc. How could it not be embarrassing for a team that was ranked most of the year in the top 10 in the nation to lose to an unranked opponent in its conference semifinals?)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on May 09, 2008, 04:08:40 PM
Denison wins game two, 4-2. J.D. Wyborny pitches a complete game for Denison. Xander Jones pitched eight innings for OWU.

Expected start for game three at 6 p.m.

(Pity the catchers, behind the plate for 27 innings!)


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 09, 2008, 04:10:17 PM
I can't believe they're playing all three games in one day; I didn't even think that was allowed.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 09, 2008, 04:18:30 PM
Scots Fan,
         I agree. Embarrassed is the wrong word.

75, out played, is a more appropriate word.

Split in the first 2 games of the NCAC. Sounds like a real " battle for the crown and the bid". Good luck to both teams.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on May 09, 2008, 09:04:35 PM
OWU Battling Bishops are the conference champs, moving on to the NCAA regional in Terre Haute.

Box scores here:

http://www.denison.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/ba_ncachome08.html

Congrats to OWU and Denison on good seasons.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 10, 2008, 09:34:58 AM
Congrats to OWU and Tyler Mott!!  He's done a great job in his first year, and I'm sure coach Brewer at Marietta was smiling when he heard the news.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 10, 2008, 04:21:07 PM
Quote from: 75westbound on May 09, 2008, 02:51:31 PM
(On the question of embarrassment, calm down. As the coach himself said, the team was outhit, outpitched, etc. How could it not be embarrassing for a team that was ranked most of the year in the top 10 in the nation to lose to an unranked opponent in its conference semifinals?)
Again, did you miss the part where I stated that maybe, just maybe Wooster was a bit over-rated???  The polls can be wrong and obviously in the case of Wooster, they were.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on May 10, 2008, 08:43:52 PM
Sorry, ScotsFan, but I'm not interested in pursuing an argument. I know some on boards like this live for an argument that goes on and on, but it's not my thing. I come to share information and to hear information.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 10, 2008, 11:30:37 PM
Quote from: 75westbound on May 10, 2008, 08:43:52 PM
Sorry, ScotsFan, but I'm not interested in pursuing an argument. I know some on boards like this live for an argument that goes on and on, but it's not my thing. I come to share information and to hear information.


Well isn't that big of you...  ::)

Perhaps then, you should avoid the inflammatory remarks like the one you made in your inaugural post...  ???
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 11, 2008, 12:37:26 AM
I don't know, it sure looked like an embarrassing doubleheader loss to me, too.  It's not that losing two games to OWU is something to be embarrassed by, OWU is obviously a pretty good ballclub.  But Wooster neither played well nor was coached well; at times they looked amateurish (well, I guess they are amateurs, aren't they?) compared to the Bishops, and they SHOULD feel a bit embarrassed.  Maybe, also, hopefully, a bit angry and determined, as they head into NCAA play.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 11, 2008, 12:45:37 PM
It looks like Heidelberg has saved Woosters bacon as far as a pool C bid. With the sweep of Marietta, they made the decision almost a no- brainer now. There could always be a surprise, though.

If Woo does get a reprieve on the season, I would like to see them "play to win". In otherwords, play loose and aggressive.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2008, 09:51:19 PM
In the midst of all of the playoff action, I just wanted to congratulate Wooster's Adam Samson in garnering NCAC Pitcher of the Year and also Sean Karpen for garnering player of the year.  It was announced on the radio today during Wooster's game with RHIT as were all the Wooster players to earn 1st and 2nd team.  I can't remember offhand who they were and they don't have it up yet on the NCAC homepage yet.  I must say, I wasn't expecting a Wooster sweep, but congrats to those players nonetheless.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2008, 11:19:23 PM
OWU was also eliminated today by Eastern Conn. today by the score of 5-1.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 18, 2008, 08:34:14 AM
Final thoughts on the Scot's season.
They had the season I expected. Early season rankings were based on returning pitching, which couldn't duplicate it's 07 performance. Offensively, too many holes to fill with graduation and starting underclassmen choosing not to return.

Wooster had a nice season, nothing great. Players stepped in and did well but, no one to really carry the team.
2009 season seems wide open. They loose alot to graduation. The underclassmen should be excited to compete for starting jobs. Reload or rebuild?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 18, 2008, 08:39:25 AM
What is wrong with the NCAC website for baseball. It hasn't been updated since May 5th.
No championship info, no all conference teams. Very poor job done by the NCAC administrative end.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: rhitfan on May 19, 2008, 03:36:02 PM
I'm not sure the coaches should have been allowed to return after the Rose game

Here is a recap on what actually happened in the 13th inning, ejections and all:

http://www.tribstar.com/sports/local_story_137234648.html
http://www.tribstar.com/sports/local_story_137233906.html?keyword=topstory
http://www.tribstar.com/sports_columns/local_story_138233655.html

All three very interesting reads.....
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 19, 2008, 04:02:56 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 18, 2008, 08:39:25 AM
What is wrong with the NCAC website for baseball. It hasn't been updated since May 5th.
No championship info, no all conference teams. Very poor job done by the NCAC administrative end.

The conference just e-mailed its All-Conference team this morning. Was it chosen before today?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on May 19, 2008, 06:08:16 PM
Old Scot, Although the all-conference team isn't posted on the NCAC baseball page, it is posted on the NCAC home page.

http://www.northcoast.org/

Interesting that OWU and Denison, which won the divisions, have a total of four players out of 28 on the first and second teams. Talk about coaches making the most out of the talent they have.

Wooster puts seven players on the first team, Wittenberg three, Kenyon three, OWU one, Allegheny one, Wabash one.

Four of those Wooster players are seniors.

Next year should be interesting.

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Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 20, 2008, 09:19:22 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 19, 2008, 04:02:56 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 18, 2008, 08:39:25 AM
What is wrong with the NCAC website for baseball. It hasn't been updated since May 5th.
No championship info, no all conference teams. Very poor job done by the NCAC administrative end.

The conference just e-mailed its All-Conference team this morning. Was it chosen before today?
I'm assuming so because Ken Nemeth announced Samson and Karpen as winning Pitcher and Player of the year respectively during the radio broadcast of their game with RHIT last week at the regional.  He also named off all of the Scots that made the all-conference team.  Not sure why it took the NCAC so long to release the info.  This is how I knew that Samson and Karpen had been chosen back on the 16th.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 20, 2008, 10:04:40 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 18, 2008, 08:34:14 AM
Final thoughts on the Scot's season.
They had the season I expected. Early season rankings were based on returning pitching, which couldn't duplicate it's 07 performance. Offensively, too many holes to fill with graduation and starting underclassmen choosing not to return.

Wooster had a nice season, nothing great. Players stepped in and did well but, no one to really carry the team.

Good assessment old scot.  I have to say, the pitching is what disappointed me most about this team.  I think it was expected that the pitching staff was going to have to carry the load for a not quite as explosive Wooster offense.  I don't know whether they over-acieved in '07 or what, but the pitching staff just never attained that level of success this season. 

Quote from: old scot on May 18, 2008, 08:34:14 AM
2009 season seems wide open. They loose alot to graduation. The underclassmen should be excited to compete for starting jobs. Reload or rebuild?

Wooster did have quite a few talented seniors they're losing to graduation.  But, does Wooster ever have to rebuild?  I'm confident that they will reload with the talent they have waiting in the wings.

From the pitching staff, Wooster is only losing one pitcher to graduation.  Granted, he's the reigning 2-time NCAC Pitcher of the Year and an All-American, but the rest of the staff comes back intact.  I would guess you'll see Mark Miller in a starting role next year to join Trapuzzano and Matt Barnes along with the a host of others that showed some potential.

As for the position players, Wooster loses 4.  Three of which made NCAC 1st Team.  And those 3 players were also among the top 5 in batting average for the Scots.  But, Wooster does return 5 players that were regulars in the starting lineup, including NCAC Player of the Year Sean Karpen. 

I'm guessing that we won't see a pre-season top 10 ranking from the pollsters for Wooster next year.  And IMO, that is a good thing.  It seems that every year Wooster comes into the season highly ranked, they always fall well short of their expectations.  Maybe next year, they can fly a bit under the radar and surprise some people come tournament time.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 20, 2008, 10:09:40 AM
Quote from: 75westbound on May 19, 2008, 06:08:16 PM
Interesting that OWU and Denison, which won the divisions, have a total of four players out of 28 on the first and second teams. Talk about coaches making the most out of the talent they have.
And the NCAC recognized that by naming OWU's interim head coach, Tyler Mott as the Coach of the Year.  BTW, how much longer is that interim tag going to stick with Mott?  I definitely think he proved that he can coach and he deserves to be named head coach for the Bishops.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 20, 2008, 03:45:37 PM
ScotsFan,
       I don't think Karpen will be back. His playing eligibility considers him a Jr. but, I think academically he is a Sr. I believe he sat out his Fr. year due to injury. I would be nice to have him back but, I doubt it will happen.
DIII doesn't have the luxury of DI & DII to keep a player for 5 years to play 4.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 21, 2008, 09:20:09 AM
old scot,

Thanks for pointing that out.  I wasn't aware of that.  I was just going by the roster.  I always thought the roster listed you as your current year in school and not your current year of eligibility.  I remember when Tom Port was a senior, he still had a year of eligibility, but he was still listed as a senior on the roster that year.  And he was one of the rare exceptions that ended up coming back for a 5th year. 

I know what you're saying about staying the extra year at the DIII level though.  Not too many families can swing that extra 40 grand for another year of eligiblity.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 21, 2008, 09:46:36 AM
I was going to comment on this earlier, but did anyone happen to read the articles linked from the Terre Haute Tribune Star by rhitfan?  The RHIT head coach had some pretty harsh words with regards to the Wooster baseball team:

Quote from: RHIT Head Baseball Coach, Jeff Jenkins
"They're a good ballclub, not a lot of class, but a good ballclub. It's not a reflection on their players, but they need someone controlling them in that situation."

I just thought that was a pretty harsh generalization to make in such a heated contest like that one.  I'm not trying to make excuses, but there were a TON of factors that happened in that game that led to the explosion that occurred in the 13th inning.  The tension of having an elimination game going on into the 13th inning would have been enough to put a lot of players and coaches on edge.  But factor in all of the questionalbe umpiring decisions that were made throughout the game that had coaches and players from both teams upset only added to that tension.  And the batter's interference call on Christensen resulting in the potential tying run being called out just happened to be the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.  Again, I'm not trying to condone the ensuing argument, but I can't say for certain that I would have reacted much different than Pettorini in that situation.  After all, he's fighting for his players which is what I would want in my head coach.

I'm guessing we won't see any regular season matchups between these two teams anytime in the near future...  :-\
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 21, 2008, 10:27:40 PM
Personally, I can't believe Pettorini lasted until the 13th inning to get ejected. I would think throwing the rule book into the dugout in the 6th would warrant getting tossed.

It sounds like the umpires never had control of the game and second guessed quite a few calls.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCAC4Life on May 22, 2008, 08:28:53 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 20, 2008, 10:09:40 AM
Quote from: 75westbound on May 19, 2008, 06:08:16 PM
Interesting that OWU and Denison, which won the divisions, have a total of four players out of 28 on the first and second teams. Talk about coaches making the most out of the talent they have.
And the NCAC recognized that by naming OWU's interim head coach, Tyler Mott as the Coach of the Year.  BTW, how much longer is that interim tag going to stick with Mott?  I definitely think he proved that he can coach and he deserves to be named head coach for the Bishops.

ScotsFan, I think they know what they are doing down at OWU. I believe they have had a pretty good track record with hiring head coaches recently. Two NCAC titles in a row by two different head coaches. Someone knows what they are doing!
In regards to the all-NCAC teams, past history implies that the overall weakest (East) of the two divisions has historically been over represented when selecting the   all-league teams.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 22, 2008, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 21, 2008, 09:46:36 AM
I was going to comment on this earlier, but did anyone happen to read the articles linked from the Terre Haute Tribune Star by rhitfan?  The RHIT head coach had some pretty harsh words with regards to the Wooster baseball team:

Quote from: RHIT Head Baseball Coach, Jeff Jenkins
“They’re a good ballclub, not a lot of class, but a good ballclub. It’s not a reflection on their players, but they need someone controlling them in that situation.”

I just thought that was a pretty harsh generalization to make in such a heated contest like that one.  I'm not trying to make excuses, but there were a TON of factors that happened in that game that led to the explosion that occurred in the 13th inning.  The tension of having an elimination game going on into the 13th inning would have been enough to put a lot of players and coaches on edge.  But factor in all of the questionalbe umpiring decisions that were made throughout the game that had coaches and players from both teams upset only added to that tension.  And the batter's interference call on Christensen resulting in the potential tying run being called out just happened to be the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.  Again, I'm not trying to condone the ensuing argument, but I can't say for certain that I would have reacted much different than Pettorini in that situation.  After all, he's fighting for his players which is what I would want in my head coach.

I'm guessing we won't see any regular season matchups between these two teams anytime in the near future...  :-\

Jeff Jenkins has been around the Mideast Regional for over a decade as a member of the tournament committe, and Mideast Representative at the World Seires too.

What I'm saying is that his comments about Coach P and the Wooster program most likely don't just stem from this one incident.  He's seen the way Petorini and his teams have acted over the years, and he probably took that into consideration when making this statement.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 22, 2008, 09:20:49 PM
HUH??
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 22, 2008, 09:51:28 PM
^^^^ what I meant was that Jenkins has been around for a long time and has seen Petorini act, how should I say, "without a little class" a few times at the Regionals....so it was probably a preconceived opinion he already had of Coach P and the Wooster program (whether it's right or not).  Then when this game and incident happened, he commented on it in the heat of the moment.

It seems harsh, but if it's been building for many years, than to him it was probably understandable.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Puckeye on May 23, 2008, 06:46:02 PM
Sean Karpen will be back to play another season for the Scots !!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Puckeye on May 23, 2008, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: Puckeye on May 23, 2008, 06:46:02 PM
Sean Karpen (Bones) will be back to play another season for the Scots !!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: cal denison fan on May 25, 2008, 11:36:35 PM
I would like to comment on the All NCAC team. I will openly identify myself as a Denison parent. It is a shame and patently ridiculous that our team could win the west division (widely acknowledged as the stronger side of the bracket) and get only 1 second team selection. I have never seen anything like this and it is an injustice to our players and coaches. As an example I would offer Park Smith, who hit over .400 and was an absolute stalwart fielding first baseman. How could he possible be only honorable mention. James Clear absolutely is among the top eight pitchers in our league.

I am not sure what happened, if this is a result of having a first year coach or if there was some axe to grind against our program, yet the coaches of our league ought to be ashamed of themselves. They have set a very poor example of doing things the right way and justice was not served! I am appalled that the league does not have more oversight of the process of selection, and believe that some kind of review should have been initiated.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 26, 2008, 05:55:39 PM
^^^^ the all-conference selection process is pretty much a bartering system.  A few coaches will battle for each other's players, while another few will battle for their group of players.  For example, Coach A will say to to Coach B "if you can vote for my guy to be on the 1st team, I'll make sure your guy is at least 2nd team." (whether the kids deserve those spots or not). It happens all over the country, and unfortunately it's just the way it is. 

Having a new coach doesn't help very much when in a room with established coaches who have established relationships with others in the league.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: cal denison fan on May 26, 2008, 06:34:07 PM
Yes, I am sure you are right. It is just hard to take when we win our side of the conference and get 1 player on the second team (who happens to be my son) while Wooster gets eight total. I just feel the coaches ought to be more mindful  and fair. It is not about them. Perhaps our conference needs to be more on top of this as well.

And yes I am sure having a first year coach was a large part of the issue, yet should it be?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on May 28, 2008, 02:05:24 AM
Yes, both Denison and OWU clearly got screwed on the all-NCAC team. Smith and Clear are good examples. I'm sure others could be mentioned from several teams.

Note this: Denison's Park Smith was named to the 2008 Division III Rawlings/ABCA All-Mideast Region team. But was only honorable mention on the NCAC team. One of those is wrong.

If you look closely at the NCAC list, you'll see that the all-NCAC second team doesn't even have a first baseman. That's right, no first baseman.

It has four outfielders, including a senior from Kenyon who hit .333 with 0 home runs and 21 RBI. And a junior from Wabash who hit .333 with 2 HR and only 19 RBI. And a junior from Wittenberg who hit .318 with 2 HR and 30 RBI. I suppose one of those is the "fourth outfielder."

Meanwhile, first baseman Smith, down among the honorable mentions, hit .414 with 3 HR and 38 RBI.

And let's not forget this part: Smith also threw a no-hitter. (If one of those outfielders also threw a no-hitter, I missed it.) And twice was the NCAC player of the week.

Maybe it can be chalked up to I'll-scratch-your-backism among the coaches. That would explain why James Clear was down on the bottom of the list. You can hear the horse-trading now: Wyborny's on the second team (a very close call between Wyborny and Clear, based on the numbers), but the main thing is that they're both from the same school, and no one from Wooster is on the second team, so it's Wooster's turn. Move Clear down to honorable mention. Only one of the Denison pair (Wyborny and Clear) was going to make that second team.

Perhaps the Wooster fans here will say the choice was made purely on merit. At the time the teams were voted, Trapuzzano from Wooster did have one more win than Clear. On the other hand, Trap had a higher ERA at the time, and pitched a full 2 fewer innings per start than Clear did.

Maybe that's a good example of the choices being hard.

In Smith's case, I don't see how you make a case for moving him down to honorable mention.

I'm guessing that there's one more factor: He's a sophomore. Reputation and name recognition must make a big difference, especially in a conference where several of the coaches won't know teams in the other division. That would benefit the seniors and juniors, and Denison had only four seniors and three juniors on the entire roster. OWU had 11 seniors and five juniors. Wooster had seven seniors and four juniors.

The NCAC team is here:
http://www.northcoast.org/ba/baallncac08.pdf

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: cal denison fan on May 31, 2008, 12:23:54 PM
Thank-you westbound, you really made the case complete with a thorough analysis. I remain shocked (perhaps I shouldn't be) at the manner in which these coaches make these selections. I, of course I'm very partial to the Denison players. Just a great group of smart, hard working players. They deserve better in terms of consideration for post season honors.

You correctly pointed out that OWU got jobbed as well.  This was not an All NCAC east team, although it looks like one. Simply ridiculous! I wrote to the league' executive director about this. Have not received a reply. Not really expecting one, either! They did not even finish the last posting  summary, or player of week selections from the OWU Denison final! To me that says something as well. Somehow I wonder if this would happened if Wooster had made the final.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Fan10 on June 02, 2008, 11:23:54 AM
I just want to preface this with saying that I have played in the NCAC and have been on the All NCAC teams and the All Mideast region teams, but I also know that nobody really cares about any of those honors.  They really don't mean a thing.  The only thing that really matters is who wins the tournament and who goes to the regionals.  Baseball is a TEAM sport and I don't know anyone who knows anything about baseball who is more concerned with getting recognition for a job well done then actually winning.  That is probably why Wooster gets the most votes.....because they win at least 30 games every year and play as a team rather than relying on a couple individuals to carry them.  If Denison starts to establish a streak of having great teams on a consistant basis then they will start to have more and more players get recognition, but what it all comes down to is just getting a piece of paper at your baseball banquet that says you made some made up team that nobody cares about
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: cal denison fan on June 04, 2008, 12:04:48 AM
I must respectively disagree with the premise that no one cares about post season awards. The fact that we are having this conversation sufficiently makes this point. If the premise is accepted that no one cares about honors of this sort, perhaps the Hall of Fame is irrelevent. If you were to be asking the question as to whether we should care about such things (I cannnot discern that you in fact are) I believe that is a valid conversation. However if we begin with this question, it is just a short jump as to whether it really matters who wins the conference and goes on into the tournament either. And from there we can ask whether any sporting event, it's outcome, season statistics etc. has any relevence in the big scheme of things. The fact is, there is an All NCAC team nominated and voted upon by the coaches of the league.  I am, in a long honored tradition of second guessing in baseball, challenging not necessarily the selections made, but the omission of deserving Denison and OWU players. It is a leap of faith to assume that doing so confirms that one would care more about recognition than winning (they are equally unimportant or important depending on your perception) or omit one from the fraternity of those "who know anything about baseball".

Additionally, your argument (perhaps apology) that winning 30 games over multiple seasons should have any particular standing in selecting teams based on this season holds no validity or logic that I can detect. You also imply (maybe not intentionally) that Denison did not "play as a team" and therefore it's players did not deserve recognition. Turning that argument on it's head it would seem that the team that won the NCAC east (and 27 games total) on the one hand did not have good players as judged by the coaches, and did not play as a team, as implied by you. Aside from questioning standardly accepted assumptions about sports, it would call into question what constitutes a successful team. Additionally we would have to conclude that our coaching staff perhaps would be most deserving of some form of post season recognition, meaningless or not.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Fan10 on June 04, 2008, 10:45:13 AM
All I am trying to say is that it is Division 3 baseball.  There are not too many media outlets or really anyone that could really care about who gets post season recognition for division 3.  It seems that the only people that really care about getting post season awards are the parents of the players so they can have something extra to brag about.  I am not saying Denison didn't have players that should have been on the NCAC team, however, there are also players from every team in the league that could state their case that they should get some type of recognition.  It has been widely accepted that the NCAC team is not really the best players in the league all the time.  It seems that the 1st team are usually the best all around players, defensive abilities included, then the 2nd team and honorable mention seem to be whoever the coaches can influence more.  Also, as far as you saying that the Denison coaching staff should receive recognition, I couldn't disagree more.  Their head coach backed his way into taking over a well established team that he had nothing to do with.  Their current head coach did not recruit any of their really good players.  I say we can start giving credit to him if Denison will have the ability to keep up 27 win seasons in another couple years once he gets his own recruits in.  Also, their current head coach learned everything from his former coach who learned everything from wooster's head coach.  Anyone can win 20+ games in the weak NCAC now with decent talent.....let's see if he has the ability to keep bringing in talent and consistently being competative like a OWU or a wooster. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on June 05, 2008, 01:27:16 AM
Anyone who knows anything about the Denison situation knows how ill-informed the previous comment is.

The new coach helped recruit most of the players on this team. He wasn't the head coach in the two years before this year, but even as an assistant he was much more active and effective as a recruiter than the previous coach -- as evidenced by the much larger recruiting classes that he helped bring in. Not to mention the talent shown by the sophomores and freshmen.

This year's team was more successful on the field, and a happier bunch of guys off the field, with good reason. Ask any player or parent associated with the program.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: cal denison fan on June 05, 2008, 03:35:41 PM
I appreciate the opportunity to have this dialogue. I was being facetious in suggesting our coaches deserved post season recognition. Having said that I consider them both to be fine individuals who I am sure will become a success at whatever endeavor they indulge in.  And I hope that they will be given the opportunity to continue what they have begun at Denison.

I am sorry that my comments were not apparently transparent enough. What I was saying was in response to an earlier comment which implied that somehow our team had not played well together and I coupled this with the fact that we only had one second team, all conference selection. My attempt was to contrast this with our NCAC west first place finish  and 27 win season. Thus I facetiously concluded that if we had few good players and did not play well together (false assumptions obviously) our coaches must have coached the hell out of players in order to get those results.

And finally Westbound is correct. This years team was a success both on and off the field and from what I gathered from my son (one of four seniors) and observed myself, was an extremely close knit group that I am certain will stay friends forever, which is certainly a most important take away from their college baseball and academic experience.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Fan10 on June 05, 2008, 04:04:01 PM
My only comment on that is that Denison's program was a complete joke before Coach Cradock took over.  Denison was considered pretty much an automatic win the years I played in the NCAC and now they are one of the best teams in the conference.....which is not even close to as competetative as the NCAC used to be...but that is for another post some other time.  I am not saying that their current coach didnt do a good job this season, all I am saying is that I see him stepping into a great situation as a result of some poor judgement from the old coach.  Denison's program owes a lot to Craddock, he took them from a joke to a contender year in and year out
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on June 06, 2008, 11:27:26 AM
Personally, I see the selections of the All-NCAC teams as an indirect result of the BS that is the two divisions of the NCAC!  Clearly, the West is the toughest top to bottom.  With the decline of Allegheny in the East, Wooster has a pretty easy road to winning their division every year.  Kenyon has been getting better, but they would probably finsih 3rd at best out west.  As a result of the weakness of the east, Wooster seems to pad their stats against the weaker teams in the east.  Combine that with Wooster's overall record and it's not too hard to see why they dominate the all-conference selections.  Whether its right or wrong, it is what it is...  :-\

Personally, I was quite shocked to see how many Scots made all-conference this season.  Sure they had the best conference record, but they didn't even make it to the finals of the conference tournament.  That conference final consisted of 2 teams from the West division.  That clearly shows me that the west was the better division and the all-conference team should have consisted of players predominantly from the best division.  Not players from a team that feasted on the weaker teams of the NCAC east.

What this also shows me is that the NCAC needs to get rid of this silly East/West divsion thing!  The OAC seems to do fine without needing 2 seperate divisions.  I just wish the NCAC could realize this and lose the divisions.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Fan10 on June 06, 2008, 11:51:25 AM
I completely agree with Scotsfan in the aspect that Wooster is able to pad their stats playing against weaker teams in the division.  The NCAC needs to get rid of the East and West....The schools are not that far apart where they can play every school in the conference.  It seems that in past years the East was better than the west when Allegheny was a national power and now they just can't compete.  In the early 2000's it seemed to be more competative with Wooster, Allegheny, and OWU being in the top 25 of the country for several years.  With that being said, there is no way to tell if another team will emerge as a competative team in the years to come, but overall, the NCAC is just not as good as it used to be.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 07, 2008, 12:15:38 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on June 06, 2008, 11:27:26 AMThe OAC seems to do fine without needing 2 seperate divisions.  I just wish the NCAC could realize this and lose the divisions.

Allegheny to Wabash: 452 miles.
Wilmington to John Carroll: 211 miles.

That seems to be the longest trip in the OAC. Heidelberg/Marietta and Ohio Northern/Marietta are similar but shorter.

The conferences are the same size in numbers but not in geography.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: cal denison fan on June 07, 2008, 12:20:23 PM
Certainly the west was a better top to bottom league this year, however was certainly impressed with Kenyon. They seem to be going in the right direction. Interesting idea, perhaps with merit, about collapsing the conference. The two Indiana schools make that somewhat difficult in terms of travel.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on June 07, 2008, 06:00:28 PM
I would also like to see the NCAC discard the divisions, but as I suspect they were first installed as a money-saving device, chances of a reversal now, in today's economic climate, seem remote.

Individual awards in team sports interested me much more when I was younger, as did pro wrestling.  And, to make the leap from not caring about the all-star teams to not caring who actually wins the ballgames is, well, a leap.  A huge one.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on June 09, 2008, 08:57:10 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 07, 2008, 12:15:38 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on June 06, 2008, 11:27:26 AMThe OAC seems to do fine without needing 2 seperate divisions.  I just wish the NCAC could realize this and lose the divisions.

Allegheny to Wabash: 452 miles.
Wilmington to John Carroll: 211 miles.

That seems to be the longest trip in the OAC. Heidelberg/Marietta and Ohio Northern/Marietta are similar but shorter.

The conferences are the same size in numbers but not in geography.
They make the trip over the winter for basketball.  Granted, Allegheny, Hiram, Earlham and Wabash make it a combo trip taking each other on in back to back nights.

I just think it could be pulled off much the same way.  In the OAC, each team plays the other in a single DH and they rotate the home and home season by season.  As far as the distance thing between Hiram, Allegheny, Earlham and Wabash, they could still incorporate it into one trip like they do in basketball.  The NCAC already plays back to back double headers as the league is set up now.  It wouldn't be much different than the current setup.

But, alas.  I highly doubt a couple of posters from a DIII message board will make too much of an impact on getting things changed for the NCAC baseball conference alignment...  :P
Title: 2009 schedule
Post by: 75westbound on June 09, 2008, 06:27:11 PM
The 2009 conference baseball schedule has been posted. (Probably a long time ago, but I just noticed.)

http://www.northcoast.org/pdffiles/schedules/ba09.pdf (http://www.northcoast.org/pdffiles/schedules/ba09.pdf)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Fan10 on July 14, 2008, 04:21:50 PM
Does anyone know what is going on with the interim head coaching jobs?  Will OWU and Denison hire new coaches or will they go with what they had last year?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCAC4Life on July 15, 2008, 10:39:32 PM
Mott is the head coach at OWU. Denison will probably keep  Deadman.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Fan10 on July 18, 2008, 09:15:46 AM
I wasn't sure about OWU but I heard that Denison was interviewing for new coaches...Deadman might be out
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on July 18, 2008, 02:58:20 PM
No, Dedman* got the job for good. Not sure about Mott at OWU -- search may still be going on this fall.


* not Deadman
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on July 22, 2008, 04:29:16 PM
Denison: Dedman named head coach

http://www.denison.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/ba_dedman72108.html

Anyone hear anything about the OWU search?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCAC4Life on July 23, 2008, 09:15:58 AM
Mott won the NCAC and went to the NCAA's. He is the head coach at OWU. No search happening!


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on July 24, 2008, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: NCAC4Life on July 23, 2008, 09:15:58 AM
Mott won the NCAC and went to the NCAA's. He is the head coach at OWU. No search happening!


Not necessarily.

I just asked the AD at OWU if there will be a search, and he said:


Tyler Mott is currently coaching our baseball team.

Please watch the OWU website for any information regarding a future search for baseball.

Roger Ingles
Director of Athletics
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on July 25, 2008, 10:20:22 AM
I respect that the AD has to play it close to the vest, but is there a reason Mott would NOT get the job?  He seems like a perfect fit...at least to an uneducated OAC guy!!  He's an alum, he's a central Ohio guy and he was successful in his trial run.  I feel like all of these things point to a long term hire.  Plus I would think that the combination of his youth and OWU's track record for success would be a useful tool in recruiting as well.  Sorry, you guys have to get my 2 cents over here since the OAC board is in hibernation.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 75westbound on July 25, 2008, 06:10:17 PM
Yes, I assume Mott would ultimately get the job. You cite several good reasons.

But a national search is probably required under the university's rules.

It's one thing to say that he should get the job. No quarrel with that here.

But it's wrong to assume, as NCAC4Life did, "No search happening!" There may have to be a search.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on July 26, 2008, 06:46:27 PM
Speaking of young coaches who were given a shot - I can't say enough good things about what Cory Stevens has done at Wabash in his 2 years.  Some people questioned why a national search did not take place after Tom Flynn resigned.  Now, Wabash's future is looking very stable with some recent recruiting successes and the Board of Trustees approval of a new baseball stadium that will be ready for play in 2010.  Sometimes you find a gem in your own backyard.

http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=5987
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on September 10, 2008, 10:32:13 PM
I guess I don't know anything about baseball. In the past, I have been critical of Wooster's lack of playing "small ball".
I'm watching the Rays& Sox's tonight. Bottom of 9th, Sox get the leadoff hitter on and don't bunt him to 2nd.  The next two batters make an out, fourth batter singles. Call me crazy but, if the bunt was in order GAME OVER.
Coach P, I'm sorry, you have a major league career ahead of you.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on September 11, 2008, 09:41:27 AM
Quote from: old scot on September 10, 2008, 10:32:13 PM
I guess I don't know anything about baseball. In the past, I have been critical of Wooster's lack of playing "small ball".
I'm watching the Rays& Sox's tonight. Bottom of 9th, Sox get the leadoff hitter on and don't bunt him to 2nd.  The next two batters make an out, fourth batter singles. Call me crazy but, if the bunt was in order GAME OVER.
Coach P, I'm sorry, you have a major league career ahead of you.
That's nothing.  Did you see the Rays' half of the 11th or 12th (I can't remember for sure which one)?  They had men on 1st and 2nd with NO outs.  And they didn't even ATTEMPT to bunt the runners up!  Instead, the batter hits a hard grounder to short for a tailor made 6-4-3 DP.  Sure he got the lead runner to 3rd, but now there are 2 outs!  And the next batter grounded out to 2nd!  The Rays were clearly fortunate to have still won that game!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on September 11, 2008, 12:21:26 PM
I think that was in the 12th.  Oh, and the aformentioned batter that grounded into the DP was hitting just a hair under .200!!  I don't get it, but I guess that's why I'm sitting in my office instead of in the dugout.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on September 11, 2008, 09:06:09 PM
If you want to watch fundamental baseball MLB is not the place. The Sox gave away the game. I didn't see any of the game after the 9th. Couldn't stay awake.

I wonder if I can get the Japanese professional league to see the game played like it should be?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on September 12, 2008, 10:17:34 AM
Quote from: old scot on September 11, 2008, 09:06:09 PM
If you want to watch fundamental baseball MLB is not the place. The Sox gave away the game. I didn't see any of the game after the 9th. Couldn't stay awake.

Good point!  I was watching the Cubs the other night and they actually tried to do the fundamentally sound thing.  In a tie game, the Cubs had the first two men reach in their half of the 7th.  Pinella called for a sac bunt to move the runners up.  Problem was, Geo Soto was the batter.  He promply laid down a hard bunt right to the pitcher who started a routine 1-4-3 double play?!  :-[

And then the Cards came through in the bottom of the 9th for the win...

Maybe that's why Maddon didn't call for the bunt in that Sox game?!   :P  ;)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on September 26, 2008, 10:48:05 PM
Who would like to see the Brewers and the Twins in the World Series?
I think it would be great for small market teams, proving that you don't have to spend on outrageous salaries to have success.
I know with the salaries being payed in MLB these teams have little chance of staying together.t
I am enjoying seeing the Yankees out and the Mets on the ropes.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on October 01, 2008, 09:08:13 PM
I guess nobody wanted to see that WS match up. Anyways, the Chi Sox put an end to that.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on October 11, 2008, 03:12:35 AM
Has anyone else read 1994 Kenyon grad Dave Goodwillie's memoir, "Seemed like a good idea at the time"? I finally read it this past summer. Quite an entertaining life-so-far story.

I post this here because the book starts with a bit of Kenyon/Cincinnati Reds baseball.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on December 10, 2008, 10:28:59 PM
Wooster's schedule has been posted, although of their Florida opponents, only Allegheny is thusfar mentioned.  I'm pretty sure that they won't be playing in Port Charlotte, but rather in Winterhaven, the former home of the Indians.

A doubleheader on February 28th at Case??  Do they have a new indoor facility?

The regional tournament is listed at being in Adrian, Michigan.  That's not far beyond Toledo, maybe a three hour drive.  Better than last year.

Date Opponent (Site) Time/Result Record
Feb. 28 at Case Western Reserve (2) Noon
March 8-21 Spring Break Trip at Port Charlotte, Fla.
March 20 vs. Allegheny^* (2) Noon
March 21 vs. Allegheny^* (2) 9:00
March 28 OBERLIN* (2) 1:00
March 29 OBERLIN* (2) 1:00
April 1 MARIETTA 4:00
April 2 at Baldwin-Wallace 4:00
April 4 at Hiram* (2) 1:00
April 5 at Hiram* (2) 1:00
April 10 at Kenyon* (2) 1:00
April 11 at Kenyon* (2) 1:00
April 14 at Case Western Reserve (at Progressive Field) Noon
April 16 MUSKINGUM 4:00
April 19 PENN STATE BEHREND (2) 1:00
April 21 OTTERBEIN 4:00
April 23 at Heidelberg 4:00
April 27 at Mt. Union 4:00
April 30 at John Carroll 4:00
May 2-3 NCAC Tournament Semifinal Series TBA
May 4 at Otterbein 4:00
May 7-8 NCAC Tournament Championship Series (at Springfield, Ohio) TBA
May 13-17 NCAA Div. III Mideast Regional Tournament (at Adrian, Mich.) TBA

(2) indicates doubleheader
^ indicates games at Port Charlotte, Fla.
CAPS indicate home games at Art Murray Field
* indicates North Coast Athletic Conference East Division games
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bufordscot on December 30, 2008, 11:59:00 AM
Once again Wooster schedules a cupcake right before the Marietta game so they can rest their ace.  Wait, my names not Spence.  What's up with that?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on December 30, 2008, 10:53:23 PM
Quote from: bufordscot on December 30, 2008, 11:59:00 AM
Once again Wooster schedules a cupcake right before the Marietta game so they can rest their ace.  Wait, my names not Spence.  What's up with that?
ROTFL!!! Nice!!!  :D
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on January 06, 2009, 07:31:58 AM
Cupcake or schmuckcake, after that second doubleheader with Oberlin, Wooster has to drive 1200 miles back to Ohio from Florida.  Not only will their pitching staff be weary (not from the competition, but from throwing 28 innings in two days) but the whole squad will be.  Once again a major break for Marietta, who certainly had a hand in this scheduling somehow.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on January 20, 2009, 11:59:16 AM
Is a new stadium/field for Wooster still in the plans?  I believe a few years ago it was mentioned as part of the long range plan along with a renovation of Timken Gym.  If I remember correctly the new stadium/field was not a priority.

Any new information from those "in the know?"
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on January 20, 2009, 07:52:33 PM
Quote from: countyroad on January 20, 2009, 11:59:16 AM
Is a new stadium/field for Wooster still in the plans?  I believe a few years ago it was mentioned as part of the long range plan along with a renovation of Timken Gym.  If I remember correctly the new stadium/field was not a priority.

Any new information from those "in the know?"
I haven't heard anything new, but from what I remember, the new PEC was going to be extended to the east towards Art Murray Field and north of Papp.  If that is the case, I would think that relocating Art Murray Field would be a must to make room for parking for the new PEC and gym. 

Original plans were to close the golf course, I'm assuming to make room for new atheltic fields for soccer, lacrosse and field hockey as well as baseball, but those have been scrapped due to alumni raising hell. 

So, the last I heard was that they were going to do a little re-design of the course closing the first 2 holes and the driving range and re-locating them to the other side of Palmer St.   I'm assuming this would be where they would re-locate Art Murray field...

The Papp is getting lights and field turf this summer, so that would solve the problem of relocating soccer, lacrosse and field hockey fields.

And the last I heard, the renovations for the new PEC were to begin in 2010.  I'm not sure if that is still the target date or not.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on February 17, 2009, 06:48:53 PM
Major renovations to the PE Center (including Timken Gym) and the Lowry Center (both of which date to the 1960s) are to be a part of a large project including construction of a new Campus Center.  The new building would potentially include a 200m indoor track, a large weight/fitness area, and an Olympic size swimming pool.  The building would likely be placed in between Lowry and the PEC, connecting the two.

Some preliminary architectural-type studies are still moving forward, despite the economic slowdown.  However, the next big step would be a major capital campaign (on the order of $50-$75 million, including all of the renovations) to fund this project.  This isn't really the time to be asking alumni or corporations for money, so there is no timetable at the moment.

However, such facilities are becoming an expectation at private colleges, not just for student-athletes, but for the student body as a whole, so I fully expect this project to move forward some time in the next decade.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DelawareCityMan on February 24, 2009, 04:41:28 PM
So with the weather turning just a little warmer these next couple of days and the team schedules all getting ready to board the buses for competition and sunshine, what say you hearld scribes as to who will finish 1-2 in the East and West, who'll come out of the Semi's and head to Springfield for the Championship........

Dang it, it's BASEBALL SEASON, so let's get after it a little.....

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on February 26, 2009, 12:25:25 PM
DC Man - Dang right it's baseball season.  Thank God.  Winter gets a little deeper under my skin each year.

Here's my outlook for the 09 NCAC Season.

West- has become much more competitive the past few years with OWU, Denison, Witt & Wabash all capable of making it to the conference final 4.  I don't know what is back for the first 3 teams on this list but I do know that Wabash has more talent returning, especially on the mound than they have had in any season in the past 10.  I got to watch a little fall action and without a doubt they are the most talented team we have had in a long time.  Will this translate to more wins and a birth in the conference tournament?  Only time will tell.  It will mean that either OWU or Denison will be leap-frogged and I'm sure neither one will take that without a fight.  I'm optimistic that it can happen however this year as the LG's took 3 out of 4 from the Bishops last year and split with Denison so they are right there, they just need to be more consistent.

East - Wooster & whoever wants the consolation prize.  Wooster's proud program is at a cross-roads in my mind.  Their national power reputation I think is starting to erode by their late season swoons in the big games the past few years.  They can come back strong and make a statement in the tourney this year or they can continue their slide to very good team (ie sure bet for post-season) but just another team when it comes to the best 50 or so teams at the end of the year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DelawareCityMan on February 27, 2009, 11:45:37 AM
BASH...Completely agree with the Winter sinking in a little deeper each year and I think you're right about Wooster starting to loose some of their luster each year.  OWU has beaten them 5 of their last 8 meetings, taking two Playoff series from them, yet the rest of the D-III world seems to think they are still the Golden Team.  OWU wins the NCAC for a 2nd year in a row in 2008 and as an In-Region League Champ, gets shipped off to the New York D-III Region, while Wooster remains In-Region with an "At-Large" bid...That made no sense at all.

The Scotts will probably not be challenged for the Division Title, though depending on  what happens with the Allegheny series in Florida they may have a little more pressure on them the last weekend of their League Season when they travel to Kenyon for 4 games.  I wouldn't be surprised though to see it again be an All Western Division, but as for who, my only sure bet would be that it won't include Earlham.

Wabash may have alot of returnees, but Dennison, Witt, and O.W.U. have alot of unknown Freshmen in their rosters.  The "unknowns" may play a big role in shaping the West this Spring...and it's going to be a complete "toss up" as to who'll make the Playoffs between the 4 remaining ball clubs.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DelawareCityMan on February 27, 2009, 11:48:46 AM
OH, and one other thing that I'm sure will enter into the Wesleyan situation....a few days before they started their workouts, the head coaching job was posted for a search, so that could really affect the recruiting process for them for future years.  Don't know if their new coach is in any trouble, but seems like an odd time to be saying we're going to start a search to replace you...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 01, 2009, 07:32:24 PM
Games played,....scores to report

Saturday in Birmingham, AL

Birmingham Southern 8
Wabash 2

Wabash 11
Huntingdon 7

Sundays games were snowed out .... ouch

Not a bad start against teams with 9 games under their belts and two months of outdoor practices.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 03, 2009, 01:02:21 AM
Well, in all the excitement of watching the Wooster basketball team punch their ticket to the NCAA's I overlooked that the baseballers got things going this past weekend.  They split a doubleheader with Case on Saturday in Chilicothe.  Wooster dropped a 2-0 decision in the season opener.  Barnes pitched well in taking the tough loss.  The Scots rebounded in game 2 winning 6-2 with Trap picking up the win allowing just on earned run.  Disappointing to not come away with a series sweep, but encouraging by how well the starters looked in both games. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 10, 2009, 08:53:28 PM
Spring is here, baseball is back.
Just previewed the Scot's schedule and stats thus far. D.H. split with Case ugh!!
D.H. split with the Berg, O.K.
So far the offensive stats, (B.A.) seem to be pretty impressive, although, there seems to be a lack of power with no homers thru the first 5 games. Maybe Woo will learn how to manufacture runs,
I don't think Woo will be as dominate as they usually are but, that could be a good thing. Playing and winning tight games during the season can only help them if they reach the post season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 11, 2009, 07:35:16 AM
CoW swept a doubleheader yesterday beating Ohio Wesleyan 6-5 in game 1 and Charleston 19-5 in game two.  No stats available at this time.  I got both scores from the opponents web pages.  It would be nice to see the Scots get into a groove.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 12, 2009, 07:47:29 AM
Wooster pitcher Matt Barnes is in the hospital after doctors discovered blood clots in his arm.  He said to be feeling better now since the swelling and discolorization has faded.  There's no indication on how long he'll be out.  In response, Wooster is going to move Miller into the starting rotation and do bullpen by committee.  I wish Matt a speedy recovery.

All box scores have been posted to Wooster's website.
Wooster was off yesterday, but play Defiance today.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 12, 2009, 07:11:45 PM
FYI. Former Wooster shortstop, John Quimby is on the roster of Otterbien. He was a very productive 2 year starter at Woo.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 12, 2009, 07:59:14 PM
It seems like there's been quite a few players leaving the program after a year or two at Wooster.  Is this something that just started recently or did I just not notice it in years past?  Perhaps this is pretty common and I'm mistaken.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 13, 2009, 01:40:59 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 11, 2009, 07:35:16 AM
CoW swept a doubleheader yesterday beating Ohio Wesleyan 6-5 in game 1 and Charleston 19-5 in game two.  No stats available at this time.  I got both scores from the opponents web pages.  It would be nice to see the Scots get into a groove.
I too would like to see the Scots get into a nice groove after sputtering a bit out of the gates and while I don't know if I'd call it a groove just yet, the Scots have won 4 in a row now after defeating Defiance yesterday 8-1!  :)

Wooster is averaging just under 11 runs per game over their modest 4 game win streak and allowing just under 4 runs per game!

Wooster will put their win streak on the line as they face Benedictine (IL) today and tomorrow and Lakeland on Sunday!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 16, 2009, 01:23:11 PM
Wooster's win streak is now 7 and counting!  Wooster swept Benedictine winning 5-3 on Friday and 5-0 on Saturday.  And Wooster defeated Lakeland yesterday 7-0 for their 2nd straight shutout. 

Wooster will put their win streak on the line today as they face Carthage who is 3-0 on their young season with a win over OWU on their resume.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 17, 2009, 07:46:13 AM
Make that 8 in a row for the Scots after defeating Carthage yesterday 9-5 in 11 innings.  Wooster plays Minnesota Deluth today.

They're in that "groove" alright.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 17, 2009, 11:45:06 AM
Quote from: countyroad on March 17, 2009, 07:46:13 AM
They're in that "groove" alright.
:D Yes!  I would say they now qualify as being in that 'groove' as well!!!  8)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 17, 2009, 12:16:57 PM
I don't like the number of errors this team is committing.  John Warren had two errors at third yesterday and that gives him 6 on the year.  He's only batting .250 or so as well.  Hopefully he can get going too.  I'm sure he's frustrated.

Any word on how Matt Barnes is recovering?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 17, 2009, 05:46:51 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 17, 2009, 12:16:57 PM
I don't like the number of errors this team is committing.
It's really nothing new with Wooster teams.  They currently have a fielding percentage of .951 as a team which isn't all that good.  Last year they finished the year at .952 which was good enough for 111th in DIII.   

And, when you go back to the 2000 season, the Scots have had an average feilding percentage of just .953.  They've been as good as .968 back in '02 which is also the only year they finished above .960 over that span.  And they've been as bad as .938 back in 2000.

So in reality, fielding has never been a real strong point of Wooster baseball in recent years...  ???
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 17, 2009, 05:54:09 PM
ScotsFan-

Yeah I know about their fielding woes over the years, but it still bugs me.  I guess they only have so much practice time and the majority of that time is spent in the batting cages.

Hey, they're getting the wins.  Lets keep it going.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 18, 2009, 11:12:02 AM
Quote from: countyroad on March 17, 2009, 05:54:09 PM
Hey, they're getting the wins.  Lets keep it going.
That's the all important stat anyways contryroad!  8)
 
And keep it going the Scots did yesterday downing Minn-Deluth by the score of 5-3. 

Wooster is off today before taking on 16th ranked UW-Whitewater on Thursday and then they finish up their Florida trip with a 4 game set of conference games against Allegheny.  According to Allegheny's schedule, Friday's DH is to be played at the Indians' old spring training grounds at Chain of Lakes Park in Winter Haven.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DelawareCityMan on March 19, 2009, 04:10:26 PM
O.W.U. readied itself on Wednesday with a 7-6 victory over #3 Heidelberg in Delaware, OH.  The Bishops used 5 different pitchers during the contest, 3 of which were Freshmen, giving up just 9 hits and 3 Earned Runs, while striking out 8 and allowing just 1 walk.  Freshmen James DeBiasio and Senior Logan Hronis led the 8-hit Wesleyan attack with 2 hits apiece, while Junior Steve Ruygrok had the big hit, a 3-run blast, the team's first long ball of the season.

Ohio Wesleyan will take their 6-6 record to Crawfordsville, IN on Saturday to open up NCAC play taking on the Little Giants of Wabash.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 19, 2009, 04:29:23 PM
Congrats to OWU.

The CoW was defeated today by Wisconsin Whitewater 6-5.  No box score up, but I'll be interested to see how things shook out.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 19, 2009, 05:55:48 PM
Nice win for the Bishops yesterday! 

As for Wooster, the streak had to end sometime and at least it was a respectable result to a prominent and nationally ranked program like Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonFan on March 20, 2009, 05:17:37 PM
Denison defeats No. 1 Trinity, the defending national champs, 4-2.

http://www.denison.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/0809/ba_trinity09.html


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonFan on March 20, 2009, 07:07:52 PM
Denison sweeps No. 1 Trinity, winning the second game 10-7.

http://www.denison.edu/athletics/index.html

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 21, 2009, 06:31:55 AM
Very well done Denison!!  The NCAC has racked up some nice wins.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on March 21, 2009, 07:59:10 AM
Congrats to the Big Red on registering the doubleheader sweep over #1 Trinity! :)

Wooster also notched a doubleheader sweep yesterday with 13-5 and 8-3 wins over Allegheny.  Scots are now 13-3.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 21, 2009, 10:52:15 AM
Very nice wins for Denison!   Wooster was the only NCAC team to not join the party of beating ranked opponents last week...

But the Scots did get off to a solid start to conference play sweeping the Gators.  They now have a DH with Allegheny today before heading back to tropical Ohio...  :P
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 21, 2009, 11:01:24 AM
Nice wins for OWU & Denison this week.  The NCAC West will be very tough I'm afraid to crack the top 2.

Wabash & OWU get it all started with 4 in C-ville this weekend.

Wabash is 3-5 after having 6 full games lost to rainouts so far this spring (1 in Alabama & 5 in Texas).  They are coming off a rain-shortened 9-3 loss at Rose-Hulman on Wednesday.  With the weather issues they have had to contend with, I'm not really sure where they stack up right now for this crucial conference match up.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 21, 2009, 09:22:25 PM
Wooster concluded their spring break trip by finishing off a 4 game sweep of Allegheny to open NCAC play at 4-0! 

Matt DeGrand went the distance in the opener allowing just 2 earned runs while striking out 13 as Wooster won the opener 8-2!

In the nightcap, Mark Miller recorded a shutout in just his 2nd career start as Wooster won 5-0.   8)

Wooster finished off their southern swing with a record of 14-2 despite being without the services of staff ace Matt Barnes and their narrow loss to nationally ranked UW-Whitewater came with Wooster sitting their top 4 pitchers while resting them for their conference opening series against Allegheny. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 22, 2009, 03:51:57 PM
Is there something wrong with Trap?  I see he barely went past 2 innings in his start on Saturday.  Or did they have plans to pitch by committee?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 22, 2009, 08:16:55 PM
Wabash & OWU split their 4 game series this weekend in Crawfordsville.
scores 5-2 (W), 12-7 (OWU), 2-1 (W), 6-4 (OWU).
The key game was game 3 where the Little Giants won in the bottom of the 10th with a walk off walk with the bases loaded.

Pretty competitive series and a good sign that the West division is going to be a dogfight to the very end.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 23, 2009, 06:00:50 AM
Quote from: countyroad on March 22, 2009, 03:51:57 PM
Is there something wrong with Trap?  I see he barely went past 2 innings in his start on Saturday.  Or did they have plans to pitch by committee?

My worries about Trap were confirmed in today's Daily Record.  Trap came out due to soreness in his shoulder. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 23, 2009, 11:14:47 AM
Wow!  First Barnes goes down with clots in his arm that they now say could put him out at least for the season and now Trap?  The #1 and #2 pitchers on the staff for Wooster are now on the shelf for who knows how long...  :-\

I guess Miller will definitely be a starter now!  And this also means that some youngsters are going to have to be called upon to step up sooner than expected!

Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on March 22, 2009, 08:16:55 PM
Wabash & OWU split their 4 game series this weekend in Crawfordsville.

Pretty competitive series and a good sign that the West division is going to be a dogfight to the very end.
The NCAC West indeed looks like it is going to be a dogfight!  It should be a fun race to watch to see who emerges as the ones to beat as the spring progresses forward!  :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 23, 2009, 01:24:51 PM
It's nice to see the Scots had a very good spring trip. Offensively, it seems several underclassmen have stepped up and performed well. Keep it going! It is also encouraging to hear that Coach P is emphasising hitting the ball up the middle and to the opposite field.
Tough break to hear that the top two pitchers are experiencing arm problems. Again, this opens the door for the underclassmen to show their stuff. I hope they can take advantage of the opportunity.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 29, 2009, 10:03:29 AM
Wooster sweeps Oberlin in the 1st two of a 4 game series by the scores of 9-1 and 12-2.  Matt DeGrand picked up the win in game one going 5 innings striking out 3 and walking none.  Justin McDowell picked up the win in game two going 6 innings with 7 so's and just one walk!

It will be interesting to see who gets called on today for the Scots.  I'm sure that Miller will get one of the starts.  But the 4th starter could be pitcher by committee...  Looking at the stats freshman Dan O'brien seems to be the most likely candidate as he has started 2 games and has a 2-0 record.  Sophomore Tyler Fugate is also 2-0, but he has yet to start a game.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 30, 2009, 07:48:05 AM
Wooster completed the 4 game sweep of Oberlin with two wins on Sunday (16-3 and 12-0).  Mark Miller pitched a no-hitter in game two.

Trap pitched 4 innings of game one.  Lets hope he's feeling a little better.  You may not be able to tell if Trap is in pain because he's such a tough kid and plays through it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 30, 2009, 12:48:24 PM
Wow!  Congrats to Mark Miller on the no-no!  That's the 1st Wooster no-hitter since Jon Oliver no-hit the Yeomen back in '06!  And he made the front page of d3baseball.com as well:

D3baseball.com Front Page Story!  8) (http://www.d3baseball.com/)  Of course, that's Wooster SID Hugh Howard's write-up...  :)

I'd say that Miller is adjusting to his starting role quite nicely.  He now has pitched 2 shutouts out of his first 3 starts of his carreer and improved his record to 4-0 overall on the season.  His ERA is also down to 1.19!

Wooster has now won 8 straight and 17 of their last 18 games.  They will face another test as they square off with regional rival Marietta on Wed.  Marietta is currently ranked #14 in the d3baseball Top 25 (http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2009/week-5).  But of course, we all know how unfair it's going to be because obviously, Marietta is only sending their JV team at best to go up against Wooster's starters...  :P
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 30, 2009, 08:59:59 PM
^^^^ lol...wouldn't say it's the JV team heading to Wooster, at least the offense will be making the trip!!!

Marietta's schedule this week:

Monday - OAC DH vs Capital
Tues - vs Franklin
Wed - at Wooster
Thurs - at OWU
Saturday - OAC DH at Capital

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 31, 2009, 10:48:35 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on March 30, 2009, 08:59:59 PM
^^^^ lol...wouldn't say it's the JV team heading to Wooster, at least the offense will be making the trip!!!

Marietta's schedule this week:

Monday - OAC DH vs Capital
Tues - vs Franklin
Wed - at Wooster
Thurs - at OWU
Saturday - OAC DH at Capital


Damn.  That's quite a week for 'Etta!  That weather over the weekend sure did make this week a heck of a lot tougher for the Pios!  I thought Wooster had it rough playing 6 games in 5 days, but 'Etta is going to do us one better by playing 7 games in 6 days...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 31, 2009, 11:12:17 AM
I found this weeks top 25 to be a little interesting.  The #2-#6 teams just reversed order while #1 (ECSU) and #7 (Woo) stayed the same. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 31, 2009, 05:27:59 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 31, 2009, 10:48:35 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on March 30, 2009, 08:59:59 PM
^^^^ lol...wouldn't say it's the JV team heading to Wooster, at least the offense will be making the trip!!!

Marietta's schedule this week:

Monday - OAC DH vs Capital
Tues - vs Franklin
Wed - at Wooster
Thurs - at OWU
Saturday - OAC DH at Capital


Damn.  That's quite a week for 'Etta!  That weather over the weekend sure did make this week a heck of a lot tougher for the Pios!  I thought Wooster had it rough playing 6 games in 5 days, but 'Etta is going to do us one better by playing 7 games in 6 days...

yeah, it's a tough week, but nice and challenging!!!  I remember back when I played, we always wanted to have those non-conference games against Wooster and OWU, but never got that chance.  This is what competitive baseball in the region is all about!!!!

side note - the OAC DH on Sat is at John Carroll (not Captial).
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 01, 2009, 07:35:54 PM
Good one going on at Wooster. Etta and Woo tied at 10's going into the top of the 11th.
Both teams aces couldn't get the job done. Woo's Miller came in at the top of the 9th with the score at 7's and gave up 2 runs. Etta brings in Merryman in the botton half and he does the same thing. Each give up another run in their half of the 10th.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 01, 2009, 07:49:03 PM
Wooster got the win in the bottom of the 11th.  Nice going.  4 Errors though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on April 01, 2009, 07:51:20 PM
very good game...can't wait to see them play again in the regionals!!!! 

I'm proud at the way Marietta's pitchers held their own today, and Wooster had that never say die attitude....two very good clubs!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on April 01, 2009, 07:52:42 PM
OWU and Hedelberg went extra innings as well, with the Berg getting the win in 11.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 01, 2009, 08:18:27 PM
Scots come back three times to tie the game before getting the W.
Very nice win!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on April 01, 2009, 11:32:12 PM
Quote from: old scot on April 01, 2009, 08:18:27 PM
Scots come back three times to tie the game before getting the W.
Very nice win!

The bottom of the 9th inning was the most amazing comeback, IMO.  Marietta led 9-8 with 2 outs and the bases empty for Wooster.  :o

After Stu Beath drew a walk, Matt Groezinger faced a 1-2 count with Marietta just one strike away from winning the game.

However, a wild pitch then sent Beath to 2nd base and Groezinger got the clutch hit to drive home Beath with the tying run sending the game into extra innings.

Great win for the Scots! :)


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 02, 2009, 06:07:27 AM
Thanks for the details wooscotsfan.  That's some clutch ball there.  I'll have to call my dad and see if he attended.  I told him over the weekend about the game but he wasn't sure he would watch it or not.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 02, 2009, 03:04:04 PM
I think I'll start to recognize the NCAC players and pitchers of the week like we do over on the hoops page if I can bring myself to remember every week...  :P

No real surprise for Pitcher of the Week for last week goes to Mark Miller after tossing his no-no in just his 3rd career start.

And Player of the Week goes to Wabash sr. Matt Dodaro who hit 2 homers on the week moving him into a tie for the schools all-time record!  He also batted .545 with 5 rbi.  Other Wabash milestones Dodaro is toppling include total bases.  He is also only 3 hits shy of becoming Wabash's all-time hits leader and needs just 6 doubles to to that list as well.

Since I missed the first 2 week's awards, props to senior rhp Randy Kerns from the EC who threw a complete game 2 hitter in a 3-0 Earlham win and Kenyon senior Jake Calcei hit 11-for-16 (.688) with 10 runs batted in, five runs scored, and two stolen bases in helping Kenyon sweep Hiram. 

And Denison junior Aidan Lucas was 5-5 in save opportunities to gain recognition for week 2 pitching honors.  This included 2 saves over the defending champs, Trinity (CT)!  While Wooster junior shortstop Matthew Johnson had multi hit performances in 6 of 7 games played while batting .538 (14-for-26) with 10 runs, two doubles and four RBI to take home player of the week honors for week 2.

Congrats to all the honorees so far this season!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 02, 2009, 04:03:15 PM
I hope Wooster doesn't suffer a let down at B-W today after such an emotional win against Marietta.
They owe the Jackets one from last year when they came to Art Murray Field and left with a win.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 03, 2009, 11:51:15 AM
Let down confirmed. Woo gets thumped by B-W 17-8.
All of B-W's runs earned. Looking at the box score,none of the five pitchers the Scots sent to the mound performed very well., four being freshmen.
Coach P has to be a little disappointed with that. After coming off a nice win, I bet he thought they would go out there with more intensity.
Anyways, the young guys got a little experience and a lesson in being prepared when your number gets called.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonFan on April 04, 2009, 08:01:23 PM
Denison takes the first two of the weekend from Wittenberg:

http://www.denison.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/0809/ba_wittenberg09a.html

Wooster wins twice against Hiram:

http://news.hiram.edu/?p=3242


Kenyon beats Oberlin twice:

http://athletics.kenyon.edu/x29985.xml


And OWU beats Marietta, then takes two from Earlham.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: d3ballplayerfan on April 04, 2009, 09:12:08 PM
I am new to posting, but have lurked on these boards for the past several years.  I am a big fan of D3 baseball and enjoy the quality of the NCAC athletes.  Being a former division I player, I appreciate how much these kids love playing for nothing more than each other and some memories.  Living in Indiana, I have found that NCAC teams are more entertaining than the HCAC teams, and the kids are much better behaved.  Anyway, I probably won't post often but I was just wondering...

Does anyone know what happened to Wabash and Earlham?  Wabash looked like they were primed to make a run this year and EC looked like they finally figured out how to compete last year.  It appears both programs have taken some steps backward this year.  Again, OWU and Dension appear to be the class of the West.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 05, 2009, 10:58:10 AM
Welcome aboard D3playerfan.

As I am the lone regular Wabash baseball poster, I will take your question as to what has happened to the Little Giants thus far this spring.  As you mentioned, Wabash had nearly their entire team coming back this year from last year where they finished one game away from qualifying for the conference playoffs.  They had an all-conference returning pitcher (Leckrone) and two senior all-conference position players (Dodero & Thomas).  If Wabash was to have a break out season this was going to be it.

Well inconsistency has been their major problem in my opinion, especially inconsistency on the mound.  To the team's defense Mother Nature has played a big role in this inconsistency as they have lost something like 12 games to weather so far on the season.  Their spring break trip to Texas was a complete washout after Tuesday.  For most northern programs this is where you work out all the kinks and try to establish yourself as a team and the Little Giants just have not done that.

The talent level I believe is there.  They split their 4 games with OWU which has been the gold standard program in the NCAC West for the last decade.  They split 2 with Witt and stand 3-3 in conference (8-12 overall).  There is still hope but they will need to sweep Earlham and at least split with Denison to have the make up games with Witt mean anything.  But in order to do that their pitching will need to put together more complete efforts in starters 1-4 and Leckrone will have to finish games like he is capable for them to have a shot.  Unless that happens we'll see more flashes of brilliance but a sub .500 record again from Wabash.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 05, 2009, 11:07:11 AM
For those interested in how Wabash's week went.

split 2 one-run games last weekend at Wittenberg 8-7 & 1-2, I believe.
dropped an ugly game with DePauw 16-7(9 inn.).
Got waxed by Purdue 11-0(9 inn.).
Took two 15-1 & 4-3 from Robert Morris - Springfield yesterday.  Were rained out 2 against Witt on Sunday & two more this Sunday against St. Xavier.  This has been the pattern all year with rain, make up games (Purdue & DePauw) then more rain.  Will try our hand next with Butler on Tuesday, then Earlham over the weekend.  Our season could be defined with a 5-0 week or be pretty much over with anything less than 3 wins.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonFan on April 05, 2009, 07:00:57 PM
Denison finishes four-game sweep of Wittenberg

http://www.denison.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/0809/ba_wittenberg09b.html


The last one was a wild one, with Aidan Lucas hitting a grand slam. That not only won the game, but he also got the save, tying the Denison single-season record.


OWU took three of four this weekend from Earlham.

http://www.earlham.edu/athletics/content/sports/men/baseball/2008-09/press_releases/pr040509.html

I believe this makes the West standings something like this:

Denison      6-0
OWU      5-3
Wabash      3-3
Wittenberg   4-6
Earlham      2-8
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 06, 2009, 04:40:22 PM
Congratulations to Wooster head coach Tim Pettorini on reaching the 900 career win plateau over the weekend.
The Scots swept4 games from Hiram giving Coach P a career record of  901-326-6 for a winning percentage of.734 thru 28 years.
Great job coach! Hopefully you'll still be at Wooster to teach the thousand mark.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 06, 2009, 05:44:02 PM
Quote from: old scot on April 06, 2009, 04:40:22 PM
Congratulations to Wooster head coach Tim Pettorini on reaching the 900 career win plateau over the weekend.
The Scots swept4 games from Hiram giving Coach P a career record of  901-326-6 for a winning percentage of.734 thru 28 years.
Great job coach! Hopefully you'll still be at Wooster to teach the thousand mark.
It's really not that far out of reach when you factor how much Wooster has been winning over the past few years.  Just taking their last 3 seasons into account, Wooster has won 116 games!  :o  So, it's not inconcievable to say that Pettorini could reach the 1,000 win plateau in the next 3 years!

In other NCAC East action, Kenyon kept pace with Wooster sweeping Oberlin over the weekend to up their conference record to 8-0.  They also swept Hiram.  Wooster and Kenyon meet this weekend in Gambier in what should determine the top seed coming out of the East!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 06, 2009, 06:32:29 PM
Pettorini has never had an overall losing season at Wooster and has only 1 losing season in conference play. That is pretty impressive.

P.S. How long will it take Wooster's SID to post the 2009 Media Guide? The season is more than half over!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 06, 2009, 06:44:30 PM
More regarding coach Pettorini reaching his milestone, I'm wondering why there is no recognition of this on the front page of d3baseball.com?  Their cover story is of the coach for La Verne reaching 200 wins?  Call me crazy, but reaching 900 wins seems to be a little more impressive than reaching 200 wins.  Not to take anything away from coach Winterburn at La Verne for his accomplishment, but a little love for Pettorini and his accomplishment would be nice as well...  Especially when you consider only 8 coaches in DIII baseball history have reached the 900 win milestone and Pettorini is now one of only 5 active coaches to surpass 900 wins!  8)

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: d3ballplayerfan on April 06, 2009, 08:09:37 PM
Congrats to Coach P indeed, what an accomplishment!  It would be even more noteworthy if his team had to play the entire conference each year.  The biggest problem with the NCAC is the schedule.  Last year, the second place team in the East was on the same level as the last-place team in the West.  It would be better for Wooster, in preparing for the post-season, if they were challenged during the season by OWU, Denison, Wabash, Witt, and Earlham.  They just hang out on cruise control and win all their conference games without much of a challenge from anyone in their division.  When they have played teams from the West, they haven't done so well lately.  Again, congrats to Coach P for winning 900, but the NCAC should do the right thing and have all their teams play one another.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 06, 2009, 08:10:25 PM
Scots Fan,
     You were a lttle early on your "no love from D-3 baseball" . Coach P is front page news.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 06, 2009, 08:20:00 PM
D3ballplayerfan,
       I could not agree with you more. All NCAC schools should play each other and then decide the top 4 to compete for the automatic bid, such as the OAC. I think they do it in basketball, why not baseball?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonFan on April 06, 2009, 11:13:31 PM
It's an amazing accomplishment to be so successful for so long at one school. Congratulations to Coach P.

And out of the Ripley's file, here's a coach who has won 1,800!

http://tinyurl.com/dfmh5y

I wouldn't bet against Coach P. getting there.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 07, 2009, 01:12:38 AM
Quote from: d3ballplayerfan on April 06, 2009, 08:09:37 PM
Congrats to Coach P indeed, what an accomplishment!  It would be even more noteworthy if his team had to play the entire conference each year.  The biggest problem with the NCAC is the schedule.  Last year, the second place team in the East was on the same level as the last-place team in the West.  It would be better for Wooster, in preparing for the post-season, if they were challenged during the season by OWU, Denison, Wabash, Witt, and Earlham.  They just hang out on cruise control and win all their conference games without much of a challenge from anyone in their division.  When they have played teams from the West, they haven't done so well lately.  Again, congrats to Coach P for winning 900, but the NCAC should do the right thing and have all their teams play one another.
I too wish the NCAC would do the right thing and abandon the East and West divisions in baseball!  I totally feel that Wooster suffers come post-season play because they really aren't all that tested in conference play at all!  Not having to play any West division opponents until the NCAC tournament causes Wooster to miss out on a lot of playoff type situations that they just don't face against the Hirams and Oberlins and now even Alleghenys of the world. 

But, in Wooster's defense, the East hasn't always been as weak as it has the past few years.  Don't forget, Allegheny was a regional power not too long ago and OWU was basically the only strong team out of the West.  I just don't get why baseball has to be the only sport where they have to divide the NCAC up into separate divisions?  And it wouldn't be all that difficult to make the change.  Nix the four game series and just follow the OAC's lead!!!  Maybe we could start a petition...  :P
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 07, 2009, 09:55:18 AM
Quote from: DenisonFan on April 06, 2009, 11:13:31 PM
It's an amazing accomplishment to be so successful for so long at one school. Congratulations to Coach P.

And out of the Ripley's file, here's a coach who has won 1,800!

http://tinyurl.com/dfmh5y

I wouldn't bet against Coach P. getting there.
Gordie is the godfather around the Central and Midwest regions. His son coaches at Ripon, where Gordie also tallied a few wins.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 07, 2009, 11:48:22 AM
Quote from: DenisonFan on April 06, 2009, 11:13:31 PM
It's an amazing accomplishment to be so successful for so long at one school. Congratulations to Coach P.

And out of the Ripley's file, here's a coach who has won 1,800!

http://tinyurl.com/dfmh5y

I wouldn't bet against Coach P. getting there.



My gosh!  He's been a head coach for 57 years?!  Just to put this in a little perspective, JoePa (who seems to have been  at Penn State since the turn of the century) has been head coach at PSU for the last 43 years...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: RSSmith on April 07, 2009, 08:56:01 PM
Quote from: DenisonFan on April 06, 2009, 11:13:31 PM
It's an amazing accomplishment to be so successful for so long at one school. Congratulations to Coach P.

And out of the Ripley's file, here's a coach who has won 1,800!

http://tinyurl.com/dfmh5y

I wouldn't bet against Coach P. getting there.





That's over 30 wins per year for 57 years!!    WOW!!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: RSSmith on April 07, 2009, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: RSSmith on April 07, 2009, 08:56:01 PM
Quote from: DenisonFan on April 06, 2009, 11:13:31 PM
It's an amazing accomplishment to be so successful for so long at one school. Congratulations to Coach P.

And out of the Ripley's file, here's a coach who has won 1,800!

http://tinyurl.com/dfmh5y

I wouldn't bet against Coach P. getting there.





That's over 30 wins per year for 57 years!!    WOW!!!!



Oh, I see.  They're NAIA and play over 50 games per season.  Duh.  Still a lot of winning.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bballfanatic1984 on April 07, 2009, 10:13:06 PM
I know this is kinda off the subject. But how strong do you think this league really is, besides Wooster there are no good teams. Maybe thats why Wooster is always nationally ranked of their league. I dont know just a thought. It has to be one of the weakest leagues in Ohio. Don't the voters take that into consideration when voting?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: lhpdiggy on April 07, 2009, 10:29:16 PM
Hey 1984, Wooster swept Hiram this weekend.   Do you know what you are talking about?  They face Kenyon this week too, so you might want to put a lid on it until they get through the gauntlet. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 07, 2009, 11:38:03 PM
I'm an OAC homer and even I wouldn't say the NCAC has no other good teams besides Wooster.  OWU is almost always good.  Denison has been good recently.  I think the issue, and it's been addressed on this thread more than once, is that the NCAC East hasn't been as competitive as most would like.  Especially Wooster fans, as it doesn't help them to steamroll through NCAC play and they know that.  The emergence of Heidelberg appears to have given the OAC two teams that will consistently be ranked, but other than that I don't see a glaring difference.  And we don't need to look back very far to see a time when that was reversed and it was the NCAC that had multiple ranked teams (OWU, Allegheny to name a couple).   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 08, 2009, 12:57:12 AM
Quote from: lhpdiggy on April 07, 2009, 10:29:16 PM
Hey 1984, Wooster swept Hiram this weekend.   Do you know what you are talking about?  They face Kenyon this week too, so you might want to put a lid on it until they get through the gauntlet. 
Spence, is that you???  ::)

Quote from: Dr. Acula on April 07, 2009, 11:38:03 PM
I'm an OAC homer and even I wouldn't say the NCAC has no other good teams besides Wooster.  OWU is almost always good.  Denison has been good recently.  I think the issue, and it's been addressed on this thread more than once, is that the NCAC East hasn't been as competitive as most would like.  Especially Wooster fans, as it doesn't help them to steamroll through NCAC play and they know that.  The emergence of Heidelberg appears to have given the OAC two teams that will consistently be ranked, but other than that I don't see a glaring difference.  And we don't need to look back very far to see a time when that was reversed and it was the NCAC that had multiple ranked teams (OWU, Allegheny to name a couple).   
Thank you Dr.  At least some OAC fans seem to have some common sense...

diggy,

Try reading a few posts back where we Wooster fans acknowledge the weakness of our league.  Especially the east division where Wooster plays!  Right now, the strength of the NCAC is in the West and unfortunately, Wooster doesn't have the opportunity to play many games vs. west division opponents.  As I said in a previous post and as the Dr. pointed out above, it wasn't too long ago that Allegheny was a regional power as well.  Is it Wooster's fault that Allegheny has let their once proud program fall to the depths that it is at today?  And is it Wooster's fault that the NCAC chose to split the conference into two divisions for baseball only???  Some of you OAC supporters are so full of yourselves it's pathetic...  :-\

Go ahead and keep basking in the fact that your Yellow Jackets feasted on a bunch of young and inexperienced Wooster pitchers.  In case you missed it, Wooster beat OAC leading Marietta just the night before!  I think I would rather go after that win than a win over B-W.  And it seems the pollsters agree as they didn't penalize Wooster for their loss to your mighty Yellow Jackets.  How about we see where B-W is in May and then we can talk...  ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 08, 2009, 10:59:13 AM
Congrats to this week's NCAC pitcher and player of the week:

OWU's Mason Farr was named pitcher of the week for earning a 12-1 win over the EC in which he allowed no earned runs in 6 innings of work.

Kenyon's Jake Calcei was honored for the 2nd time for going 10-14 on the week.

Interestingly, 3 of the 4 pitchers of the week have come from the West and 3 of the 4 players of the week are from the East.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 08, 2009, 11:48:05 AM
Please be careful with the OAC bashing.  Yes, Wooster has taken some ribbing in the past, especially from a particular Marietta supporter, but by and large there has not been the vile comments that sometimes come on the football boards towards the NCAC.  In fact the OAC baseball message boards have been very active this spring with some very insightful discussion and analysis.  I have enjoyed Dr. Acula's accounts as a true fan of baseball and knowing how the game is supposed to be played.  I would welcome his comments on this board anytime.  Let's not let this message board degrade to what it became last year as a pissing contest between the OAC's best and the NCAC's best.  I enjoy good baseball discussion, regardless of who it comes from or which D3 program someone supports.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 08, 2009, 12:40:26 PM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on April 08, 2009, 11:48:05 AM
Please be careful with the OAC bashing.  Yes, Wooster has taken some ribbing in the past, especially from a particular Marietta supporter, but by and large there has not been the vile comments that sometimes come on the football boards towards the NCAC.  In fact the OAC baseball message boards have been very active this spring with some very insightful discussion and analysis.  I have enjoyed Dr. Acula's accounts as a true fan of baseball and knowing how the game is supposed to be played.  I would welcome his comments on this board anytime.  Let's not let this message board degrade to what it became last year as a pissing contest between the OAC's best and the NCAC's best.  I enjoy good baseball discussion, regardless of who it comes from or which D3 program someone supports.
I agree.  That is why I said some OAC supporters.  Most of the OAC supporters are more than cordial.  And I have no problem returning the favor.  I love seeing the OAC board as active as it is to keep tabs on what's going on with the regional competition and I love being able to talk baseball with them without feeling like I'm getting into a pissing match.   I just don't get what posters like diggy think they are accomplishing by telling us NCAC folk things that we already know?!  Which is also why I made the reference to spence regarding diggy...  :P

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: lhpdiggy on April 08, 2009, 10:29:53 PM
Thanks for the lesson about this board and I had no intention of heating things up about a game I love...I like high and inside pitches when another player deserves it.  Read the pages and if that one was too close I apoligize, but thankfully it never hit em....or at least I don't think it did.  Hope all of your TEAMS win this weekend.

 

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 09, 2009, 09:45:14 AM
Quote from: lhpdiggy on April 08, 2009, 10:29:53 PM
Thanks for the lesson about this board and I had no intention of heating things up about a game I love...
Good one...  ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 12, 2009, 06:21:35 PM
Forgive me if this has been addressed already, but what happened with John Quimby at Wooster?  Wasn't he a starter there?  I was just checking out Otterbein's stats and he's going to be leading (or close to) the OAC in hitting (.465) and slugging (.814) when the stats get updated tomorrow.  Looks like he doesn't miss NCAC pitching!  He's committed 14 errors in 22 games, so maybe he at least misses the infield at Art Murray Field. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonFan on April 12, 2009, 06:47:20 PM
OWU swept a doubleheader from Denison on Saturday. They play two more on Monday.

That tightens the NCAC West considerably.

I believe the standing now is this:

Team         Record   Pct       Games remaining
Denison      6-2      .750       2 OWU, 4 Wabash, 2 Earlham
OWU          7-3      .700       2 Denison, 4 Wittenberg,
Wabash      5-3      .625       4 Denison, 2 Wittenberg, 2 Earlham
Wittenberg  4-6      .400       4 OWU, 2 Wabash
Earlham      2-10     .200       2 Wabash, 2 Denison

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 13, 2009, 07:34:08 AM
I guess I'll be the one to bring it up.   :-[  Wooster was swept by Kenyon Saturday 13-3, and 4-3.  That makes things really interesting.
Not sure I know what to make of this.

Wooster was out hit 21-11 for the day.



Ugh.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 13, 2009, 08:56:59 AM
Scots split sunday with Kenyon win 2-0 in 10 in game one , lose 9-6 in game 2.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 13, 2009, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 13, 2009, 07:34:08 AM
I guess I'll be the one to bring it up.   :-[  Wooster was swept by Kenyon Saturday 13-3, and 4-3.  That makes things really interesting.
Not sure I know what to make of this.

Wooster was out hit 21-11 for the day.



Ugh.
Pretty much sums up the weekend for Wooster!  The pitching that was supposed to be one of the strengths of this team failed to show up this weekend!

Now, all that's left to do is hope that Allegheny can somehow find a way to take 2 against Kenyon this weekend...  ???
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 13, 2009, 05:38:56 PM
NCAC BB fan, That is a pretty bold statement. I' ll have to congratulate the Lords on a great weekend. They out hit Wooster 36-26 over the weekend and according to you, it sounds like they got the big hit when it mattered.
Wooster will still make the NCAC playoffs and you have to win 4 of 6 to be the champs. I don't put much weight on the seeding. Baseball is a funny game
You can be 0 for 4 and smoke four liners for outs as well as hit 4 bloops for base hits.

As far as the Scots are concerned, I like the fact that Kenyon laid the wood to them over the weekend. I think it is a wake-up call. Just putting on the uniform doesn't guarantee a win. You need to go out and play the game  hard, regardless of the opponent.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonFan on April 13, 2009, 08:30:35 PM
OWU took two more from Denison, vaulting into the conference lead. Scores today were 2-1 and 5-4, the last game cut short by darkness when Denison had one out and a runner on first in the top of the 7th. (I wasn't at the game. There must have been some vigorous conversation at that point.)

I believe the standing now is this:

Team         Record   Pct      Games remaining
OWU          9-3       .750     4 games: 4 Wittenberg (April 18-19)
Wabash      5-3       .625     8 games: 4 Denison (April 18-19), 2 Wittenberg (April 25), 2 Earlham (April 26)
Denison      6-4       .600     6 games: 4 Wabash (April 18-19), 2 Earlham (April 25)
Wittenberg  4-6       .400     6 games: 4 OWU (April 18-19), 2 Wabash (April 25)
Earlham      2-10      .200    4 games: 2 Denison (April 25), 2 Wabash (April 26)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 17, 2009, 01:07:25 PM
Wooster was able to get back in the W column yesterday downing CWRU 15-5 up at the Jake in Cleveland (sorry, but it will always be the Jake to me...). 

Congrats to Sean Karpen as he became just the 11th Scot to reach the 200 hit plateau in his carreer!  And he did it in impressive fasion as well by launching a homer over the 19 ft. wall in left!  Stu Beath also left the yard yesterday with a homer to right.

Wooster will be off until Sunday when they host PSU-Behrend for a DH.  PSU-B has been in the ORV portion of the Top 25 and have been creeping their way closer to cracking the top 25.  They are technically ranked 30th with a record of 21-5.  Should be a good test for the Scots on Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 17, 2009, 01:15:38 PM
Congrats to the NCAC pitcher and player of the week for the week of April 13th:

Allegheny gets their first recipient of the season as junior right-hander Mike Pereslucha gets the nod this week for his complete game win over Oberlin allowing just 2 hits and one earned run while holding the Yeomen to a 0.095 batting average for the game.

Meanwhile, Kenyon picks up their 3rd POW in 5 weeks as senior Will Smith went 7-11 with three doubles, three RBI and four runs scored in Kenyon's 3-1 series win over Wooster.  His OBP was .733!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 18, 2009, 08:36:00 PM
Things get more interesting in the Western Division.

Wabash takes 2 from Denison today: 4-3 & 8-4

OWU and Wittenberg split.

The top of the division:
1. OWU   10-4
2. Wabash 7-3
3. Denison 6-6

Could this be the year my Little Giants crack into the conference championships..... maybe?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 18, 2009, 08:43:55 PM
On a less happy announcement.

Wabash announced last week that their new baseball facility which was scheduled to open for the 2010 season has been put on hold due to the national economic crisis.

Wabash, like a lot of NCAC schools, relies heavily on big alumni donors and on revenue from its' large endowment.  Well, the stock market collapse during the past two quarters has been too much to overcome for Wabash to justify such an expenditure at this time.  I understand this decision, but as a 20 year alumnus, I've been waiting a long, long time for this new field and now my wait has been extended even more :-[
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 19, 2009, 05:28:37 PM
Wabash & Denison split the Sunday DH.
Big Red take game 1 : 5-4
Little Giants take game 2: 8-2

Wabash wins the series and takes control for the second playoff spot at    8-4 in conference (14-14 overall).  Still work to be done however with make up DH's against Witt & Earlham on the schedule.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 20, 2009, 07:59:40 AM
Wooster wins the NCAC East title as Allegheny takes 3 of 4 from Kenyon. Thanks for the help Gators. I didn't see this coming. Baseball is a funny game.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 20, 2009, 08:53:05 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 20, 2009, 07:59:40 AM
Wooster wins the NCAC East title as Allegheny takes 3 of 4 from Kenyon. Thanks for the help Gators. I didn't see this coming. Baseball is a funny game.

Wow, I didn't think there was much of a chance for that to happen.  I'm very pleased though.   ;D  A rematche between Wooster and Kenyon in the NCAC tournament sure would be an intriguing one.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 20, 2009, 11:18:23 AM
Quote from: countyroad on April 20, 2009, 08:53:05 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 20, 2009, 07:59:40 AM
Wooster wins the NCAC East title as Allegheny takes 3 of 4 from Kenyon. Thanks for the help Gators. I didn't see this coming. Baseball is a funny game.

Wow, I didn't think there was much of a chance for that to happen.  I'm very pleased though.   ;D  A rematche between Wooster and Kenyon in the NCAC tournament sure would be an intriguing one.

Thank you Allegheny!!!  ;D  Although, I'm sure Wooster wouldh have preferred winning the East without any help...

Kenyon has to be kicking themselves that they couldn't find a way to win either or both of those games yesterday!  The Lords blew leads in both games!  In game 1, KC led 6-2 only to see Gheny score 2 in the 6th and 2 in the 7th to tie the game and then they won it in the bottom of the 8th!  And in game 2, KC led 7-1 in the 4th, but the Gators plated 5 runs in their half of the 4th and 2 more in the 5th and the clincher in the 6th!

As far as a rematch with KC is concerned, would both teams have to make it to the finals for that to occur?  Wouldn't Wooster face the #2 seed out of the West and KC would face the West #1? 

If Wabash can finish things off strong, it looks as though they could be Wooster's first round opponent while OWU would be taking on KC.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 20, 2009, 11:50:30 AM
BTW, Wooster kept up their winning ways yesterday by sweeping visiting Penn State-Behrend by the scores of 11-3 and 12-8.

Mark Miller picked up the win in game one.  He didn't dominate as he scattered 10 hits, but he only allowed 2 earned runs and struck out 5.

Game 2 saw most of the scoring done in the first 2 innings!  PSU-B jumped all over Trapuzzano in the 1st inning touching up Wooster's ace for 5 runs on 5 hits.  After being retired in order in the Scots' half of the 1st, Wooster pulled off an Indiansesque bottom of the 2nd erupting for 9 runs!  PSU-B tried to get back in it as they scored 3 more runs in the top of the 3rd and that would be all the offense PSU-B could muster.  Wooster responded scoring 2 more runs in their half of the 3rd and added an insurance run in the 5th.  Wooster relievers Justin McDowell and Nate Gemberling-Johnson combined to hold PSU-B to just one hit from the 4th inning on!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 23, 2009, 08:13:11 PM
Scots beat Heidelberg 5-4. No stats available from ether schools web site.  Anyways, nice win for Wooster.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 25, 2009, 09:13:22 PM
Wabash split with Witt today guaranteeing a spot in the conference tourney.  The Little Giants move to 18-16 (9-5 NCAC).  They are 1 game behind OWU who has a DH with Witt tomorrow while Wabash has a DH with Earlham.  One Wabash loss or one OWU win gives the Bishops the #1 seed from the West and sets the divisional match ups.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonFan on April 26, 2009, 01:07:04 AM
Very nice year for Wabash and OWU in the West. Congrats! After all that rain and a slow start, Wabash really went on a roll.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on April 26, 2009, 07:49:53 PM
OWU 8, Witt 2 in the first game of a doubleheader.

NCAC Semifinal Match-ups
(E2) Kenyon at (W1) OWU
(W2) Wabash at (E1) Wooster

The Bishops did not play the Lords during the regular season, nor did the LGs and Scots face one another.

However, if the seeds hold, the Scots and Bishops did play (in Florida) with Wooster prevailing 6-5 on a sacrifice fly.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 26, 2009, 10:56:29 PM
Wabash took both games from Earlham today to finish conference play tied with OWU at 11-5.  Wabash & OWU split their 4 game series and somewhere down the tie-breaker scenario list OWU garners the #1 seed.

Wabash is now 20-16 overall after a very slow start.  Will play two non-conference DH's this week before traveling to Wooster.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 27, 2009, 11:01:30 AM
Congrats to Wooster's players and coaches as they have reached the 30 win plateau for the 16th consecutive season with their win over Musky yesterday!  Does anyone have any idea on what the record is for consecutive 30-win seasons because 16 straight years is quite the impressive feat!

As for the game yesterday, Wooster knocked off the Muskies 8-6.  Trap was in line for the win as he rebounded nicely from his last shaky start only giving up 2 runs over five innings.  He left the game with a 6-2 lead, but the Scot's bully couldn't hold the lead allowing Musky to tie the game in the 8th at sixes.   Wooster would rally in their half of the 8th scoring 2 runs.  Mark Miller, who had blown a save opportunity came back on in the 9th to pick up the win.

Wooster travels to Alliance today to take on yet another OAC foe in MUC.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on April 27, 2009, 05:33:40 PM
^^^ that is an awesome accomplishment, and shows how great Pettorini has done at building the program!!

I'm guessing the record is held by Marietta.  We won 30+ games every year from 1977 through 2007 (it was broken last year, with only 23 wins).  That span lasted 31 seasons.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 30, 2009, 11:46:06 AM
Wabash 3, DePauw 2 (http://www.wabash.edu/sports/docs/baseballstats/2009/wabb4292.htm)

10 years, 2 days, and 19 games later, Wabash finally gets one over on those guys.  Hallefreakinlujah. 

Best of luck to the LGs this weekend in Wooster.  Hopefully Wabash can stay hot through the tournament! 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 02, 2009, 12:50:09 PM
Through three innings in Wooster, Wabash has a 2-0 lead on the Scots. 

Whoops...RBI double for Wabash.  Make it 3-0 with 1 down in the top of the 4th.

Scots scratch two across in the home half of the 4th.  We go to the 5th with Wabash holding a 3-2 lead. 

Top 5th - Nada for the LGs.  We'll see if Wooster can build on their momentum here. 
Bot 5th - Two quick outs followed by a walk then a two run homer by Groezinger.  Ugh...walks are the worst.  Scots will take a 4-3 lead to the 6th inning.

Top 6th - Wabash gets a leadoff walk, but are unable to get Dodaro all the way around.  Scots maintain their 4-3 lead.
Bot 6th - 3 up and 3 down....sort of.  Swearingen hit a two-out double for Wooster, then got picked off by Wabash's Andy Weeks.  The longest walk in baseball is the one you take after you get picked off.  On to the 7th...

Top 7th - Wabash has something cooking here.  Wabash's first two batters have reached here and the lineup has just turned back over to the top.  Wabash would love to get some RBI opportunities for Jake Thomas and Matt Dodaro in this 7th inning.  PJ Tyson is unable to get a bunt down, then looks at strike 3.  Tough time for an empty AB there.  Deig fouls out right against the fence on what has been described as a great play by the Wooster 3rd baseman.  Time for some clutch hitting.  And Jake Thomas delivers!  Double to the gap in left-center and one run gets in (not getting that bunt down really stings now).  Dodaro will hit with runners on second and third.  Dodaro strikes out looking and two Little Giants are stranded.  But Wabash does get one across and ties the score at 4-4.  Time to stretch....
Bot 7th - Wooster has some action in their seventh inning as well...Weeks has loaded the bases with one out and Groezinger due up.  That'll be the day for Weeks.  Wabash is bringing in freshman Andrew Swart...here's the best run producer in the league.  Welcome to college baseball, kiddo.  Swart comes through and gets Groezinger to whiff on a low fastball.  Not out of trouble yet...still just two outs in the inning.  6-4 putout to end the inning.  Wabash didn't just dodge a bullet there, they dodged a missile.  We go to the 8th tied at 4-4.

Top 8th - John Holm just blasted a ball into the forest.  5-4 Little Giant lead!  The Holm homer is immediately followed by a double by David Seibel.  Hot damn.  Wooster is going to the pen...Wabash puts a bunt down and moves Seibel over to third base with one out.  So much for that.  A tapper back to the pitcher fails to get the run in, then a routine groundout ends the inning.  But not before Wabash grabs a 5-4 lead. 
Bot 8th - Leadoff single followed a sac bunt has Wooster with a man on second base with one out.  Wyman gets a two-out single to score Wooster's baserunner.  And the game is tied again, this time at 5-5.  Inning ends on flyout to second base.  Off to the 9th inning tied at 5-5.

Top 9th - Wabash goes down in order in the 9th.  Scots will have the chance to walk off with Game 1.
Bot 9th - Leadoff walk for Beath.  Leadoff walks are the devil.  Groezinger stands in now...after getting down 3-0 to Groezinger, Swart comes back to get a strikeout.  But wait, there's more!  Beath was moving on the 3-2 pitch and was gunned down by PJ Tyson.  Double play.  HUGE play.  Two down, nobody on for Wooster.  Well until Pierce gets drilled by an errant pitch.  One on, two down.  Sutton lines out.  Bonus baseball! 

Top 10th - Leadoff single for Dodaro.  John Holm is now due up.  Will be interesting to see if Wabash plays small ball here.  Indeed they do.  Sacrifice bunt for Holm.  Seibel flies out to right, Dodaro tags and moves to 3rd.  Time for some clutch two out hitting.  Lares comes through!  Single to right field scores Dodaro.  Wabash goes up 6-5!  Coggins grounds out and the inning is over.  Wabash is three outs away from stealing Game 1.
Bot 10th - Wooster has the leadoff man on, and I hate to admit that I have no idea how it happened.  Swearingen steps up for Wooster and will certainly be trying to sacrifice himself to get that runner into scoring position.  Swearingen strikes out, but the runner swipes second base so the product justifies the means.  One out and Wyman is up.  Wyman grounds to short, Dodaro can't handle it.  E6 if you're scoring at home.  Runners at the corners for Wooster.  Karpen strikes out!  Wow.  Two down now for Wooster.  Ground ball to second, Seibel makes the play to first.  Ballgame.  Wabash takes Game 1 6-5 in 10 innings! 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 02, 2009, 01:21:17 PM
Wooster won game 1 8-6.  Wooster score 2 unearned runs in the 8th to break the 6-6 tie.  Wabash outhit Wooster 13-9 but they committed 2 errors.  Wooster committed no errors, nice job by the Scots there. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 02, 2009, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: countyroad on May 02, 2009, 01:21:17 PM
Wooster won game 1 8-6.  Wooster score 2 unearned runs in the 8th to break the 6-6 tie.  Wabash outhit Wooster 13-9 but they committed 2 errors.  Wooster committed no errors, nice job by the Scots there. 

Game 1 is in progress, c-road.  I don't believe Wooster's livestats are updating today. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 02, 2009, 01:33:54 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on May 02, 2009, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: countyroad on May 02, 2009, 01:21:17 PM
Wooster won game 1 8-6.  Wooster score 2 unearned runs in the 8th to break the 6-6 tie.  Wabash outhit Wooster 13-9 but they committed 2 errors.  Wooster committed no errors, nice job by the Scots there. 

Game 1 is in progress, c-road.  I don't believe Wooster's livestats are updating today. 

Derrrr on my part.  I walked away from my computer and thought, that couldn't be right so I returned to check and wa'la.  My bad. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 02, 2009, 02:18:39 PM
Oh wow...Brent Harris on the Wabash radio feed just relayed that John Holm's 8th inning homer to give Wabash a 5-4 lead is only the second home run that Mark Miller has allowed...in his career.  Wow. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 02, 2009, 03:19:11 PM
Game 1 finals:

Kenyon 9, OWU 6
Wabash 6, Wooster 5 (10 innings)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 02, 2009, 03:30:15 PM
Hot damn!!!!

Thanks for the play by play Wally.  Sounds like some big pitches made by the frosh sensation A. Swart.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 02, 2009, 03:50:29 PM
Game 2 is underway in Wooster....running post time!

Top 1st - Wooster had a runner on, but nothing doing. 
Bot 1st - Ditto for Wabash.  0-0 after 1. 

Top 2nd - Wooster strings together four hits and plates three runs.  Scots lead 3-0.
Bot 2nd - Three up and three down.  On to the 3rd, Scots lead 3-0.

Top 3rd - 1-2-3 go the Scots.  The last six outs of this game have taken about 94 seconds. 
Bot 3rd - Down in order again. 

Top 4th - Mini jam for the LGs as Wooster had two men on with one out.  Korfhagen gets a pair of flyouts though and strands the runners.  Still 3-0 Scots.
Bot 4th - Wabash draws a pair of two out walks, but can not advance them any further.  Wabash remains without a hit so far, McDowell did have trouble with the strike zone in that last half inning, so maybe Wabash can start to get at him a bit. 

Top 5th - Groezinger strikes again with a double that scores Beath.  Scots extend the lead to 4-0 and nobody is out in the inning.  Bunt single by Pierce, three run jack by Vesco.  Ouch.  7-0 Scots.  Solid inning for the LGs if you don't bother yourself with anything that happened before an out was recorded.  Scots lead 7-0.  Time for Wabash to think about getting a base hit. 
Bot 5th - Freshman forward/DH Derek Bailey gets Wabash's first hit of the game...an extra base hit at that.  After a line drive out to center field, there are two outs and leadoff man PJ Tyson is up.  Swing and a miss...side is retired.  Wooster leads 7-0.

Top 6th - Groezinger has left the yard.  Again.  8-0 Scots.  Wooster got two more after the Groezinger homer.  This one is getting tough to listen to.  Time for a sandwich.  10-0 Scots. 
Bot 6th - Wabash gets on the board with a solo homer by Matt Dodaro.  10-1 after 6. 

Top 7th - It's pretty much a merry go round here now.  Wooster has batted around and pushed the lead to 16-1.  Game 3 tomorrow at noon! 

Mercifully, it ends.  20-1 is the final.  Fortunately, we're not using aggregrate score.   :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 03, 2009, 01:13:43 PM
Game 3 is underway in Wooster....

Wooster just left the bases loaded in the home  half of the 3rd.  I'm not certain exactly what has transpired prior to this, but the score is 3-2 in favor of Wabash going to the 4th inning. 

Top 4th - Two out single from John Pennington scores Brian Lares.  Wabash leads 4-2 with the top of the order now up for Wabash.  Pennington is caught stealing to end the inning. 
Bot 4th - Nothing doing for Wooster in the 4th.

Top 5th - Deig draws a leadoff walk and sets the table for the middle of the order.  McDowell works around the walk and Wabash goes scoreless. 

Most unfortunately, I've got to go.  i'll have to catch the final when I get back.  Go Wabash! 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 03, 2009, 02:30:48 PM
Wooster plates 4 runs in the bottom of the 7th to take the lead 6-4.
Wabash batting in the 8th.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 03, 2009, 02:32:24 PM
Also in the top of the 8th - Kenyon lead OWU 11-4.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 03, 2009, 02:57:56 PM
Final: Wooster 6
          Wabash 4

Scots move on to the conference championship round.  Wabash finishes the season at 23-19.  Congratulations deserved for both teams.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 03, 2009, 04:37:18 PM
So close!  There's a lot to be proud of with teh 2009 Wabash team.  They reached uncharted territory and hopefully the foundation has been laid for further advancement in the years to come.  Congrats to these Little Giants and good luck to the Scots as they move forward!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 03, 2009, 04:38:56 PM
It will be an all NCAC East final for the conference championship as Wooster takes 2 of 3 from Wabash and Kenyon 2 of 3 from OWU.
The Scots get a chance to extract a little revenge on Kenyon. The Lords took 3 of 4 during conference play.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 03, 2009, 04:49:29 PM
Does anyone have news on Trapuzzano? He doesn't seem to be pitching deep into the games his last few outtings. Are his arm problems flairing up or is he just getting hit hard?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 03, 2009, 08:30:29 PM
Trap is apparently struggling with some arm problems.  On today's radio broadcast of the win over Wabash, the Wooster radio announcers were discussing how Trap struggled and made a valiant effort to get through the 3 innings that he pitched.

The radio announcers were predicting that he would not be available for the championship series against Kenyon that will be played this Thursday and Friday.  If that is true, Wooster's rotation is essentially down to Justin McDowell, Mark Miller and Matt DeGrand.  When Miller and McDowell don't start a game, they could also be brought back in relief as occurred in the Wabash series.  Let's hope that their collective arms are strong enough to lead Wooster to victory in the championship series.

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 03, 2009, 08:54:58 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 03, 2009, 04:38:56 PM
It will be an all NCAC East final for the conference championship as Wooster takes 2 of 3 from Wabash and Kenyon 2 of 3 from OWU.
The Scots get a chance to extract a little revenge on Kenyon. The Lords took 3 of 4 during conference play.
That NCAC West dominance was short-lived wasn't it...  ;)  :P

Hats off to Wabash for giving the Scots all they could handle in games 1 and 3.  They should be able to build off of this moving forward.

And congrats to the Lords from Kenyon on making it to the NCAC Tournament finals!  Kenyon certainly shouldn't be short on confidence heading into their series with Wooster next weekend.  After taking 3 of 4 from Wooster to nearly knock the Scots off of their perch atop the NCAC East, they now go down to Delaware and knock off the Bishops!  I still can't figure out how Kenyon managed to lose 3 of 4 to Allegheny.  And to add to that, Kenyon wasn't exactly playing solid baseball heading into this series with OWU.  They split a 2 game series with the EC and got blown out in a 2 game series with Witt to the tune of 29-11!!!

I think it looks like it will be a matter of which Kenyon team shows up next weekend.  Wooster will definitely be out for some measure of revenge after their poor showing in losing 3 of 4 to the Lords down in Gambier! 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 07, 2009, 04:13:56 PM
Well, now I am thoroughly confused.  Wooster was ranked below Heide in the first set of NCAA Regional Rankings with both teams having identical records.  Now, in the 2nd round of Regional Rankings Heide actually has a better regional record than Wooster, but Wooster is now ranked #1 in the Mideast??? 

I don't know about anyone else, but this makes absolutely NO sense to me.  I mean, I figured the reasoning behind Heide getting the nod in last week's rankings was because they had a better SOS.  Is the ranking committee trying to tell us that Wooster's SOS suddenly got that much stronger in the span of one week to take their lesser regional record and jump Heide in the rankings???  I just don't get it...  :-\


Here's a link to the rankings:

NCAA Regional Rankings (http://www.ncaa.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/ncaa/sports/m-basebl/auto_pdf/NR-DIIIBB-5-7-09-RegionalPoll)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 07, 2009, 04:22:23 PM
it's obvious that the commitee who does the regional rankings used head to head play when they ranked them this week.

You can tell, b/c Otterbein is also listed above Marietta, and they were 2-0 vs the Pioneers.

In my opinion, Otterbein doens't have a resume worthy of that high ranking, as their only win against a top 25 team was vs Carthage (out of region) back in the first week of the season.  While MArietta played the top teams in the region and beat Heidlberg TWICE (OAC champs), Franklin (HCAC champs), and Washington & Jefferson (PAC champs)...all from the mid-east region.  Plus they took Wooster to extra innings, and beat a top-10 team in UT-Tyler.

Wooster is assured a Pool C bid, if they happen to fall this weekend, as are Hedidelberg.  I just hope the committee gets it right on Sunday night and lets a 2nd OAC team into the dance....and if Marietta can't pull out an upset win this weekend, I hope that team is the Pioneers.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 08, 2009, 10:02:23 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 07, 2009, 04:22:23 PM
it's obvious that the commitee who does the regional rankings used head to head play when they ranked them this week.

And that's why these rankings are so damn frustrating.  Because judging by the inagural rankings, it looked as though head to head was secondary behind SOS.  It's almost as if the commitee flips a coin each week to determine what criteria carries more weight???  ???

All in all, I really don't see how the commitee could put Ott in over Marietta.  If the commitee somehow feels that Ott is worthy of a C bid, than the OAC should be a 3 bid conference this year IMHO...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 08, 2009, 08:15:16 PM
Wooster plates 5 runs in the bottom of the 7th to take a 6-4 lead over Kenyon in the opening game of the NCAC championship series.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 08, 2009, 08:48:52 PM
Wooster takes the opener 7-5.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 08, 2009, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 08, 2009, 08:48:52 PM
Wooster takes the opener 7-5.

congrats!!  Wooster needs to hold serve tomorrow and keep those Pool C bids alive for the rest of the teams in the mideast region :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 09, 2009, 09:28:37 AM
Looks like both starters ran out of gas yesterday and the coaches were a little too late to recognize it.  Justin McDowell was cruising through 4 allowing only one hit.  But the 6th is when his tank emptied as Kenyon touched him up for 3 runs in the inning.  But Pettorini stayed with McDowell into the 7th where he allowed on more run before Matt DeGrand came in to finish off the final out of the 7th.  Miller came on in the 8th and allowed his 2nd home run of his carreer to lead off that frame and then proceeded to load the bases with 2 outs before getting out of the jam.  He then came on and worked a 1-2-3 ninth to preserve the save. 

And Boucher for Kenyon was also cruising until he ran into trouble in the 7th loading the bases with no outs.  I'm surprised that Burdette didn't go to his pen sooner in that inning as it was obvious Boucher was struggling by the fact that he walked in 2 of the Scots' 5 runs that inning (4 of which were charged to Boucher).

I'm assuming that Matt DeGrand will get the start in today's opener as he only worked 1/3 of an inning last night.  Is Trap officially unavailable this weekend and if so, are they shutting him down for the year?  Hopefully he will be available in the NCAA's or else lack of depth on the mound could really hurt the Scots down the road...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 09, 2009, 10:19:25 AM
ScotsFan,
      You have your facts wrong. A single and 2 walks loaded the bases for Woo before Boucher was pulled. 3 singles scored the 5 runs.
With Trapuzzano out, the Scots will really have to stretch their pitching staff in the post season. Mcdowell, Degrand, and Miller are holding down the rolls of starter, relief, and closer. Who does what and when is up to coach P. They are carrying the work load.

Pitching was to be a strength this season. Barnes has been out since the first game he pitched, Trap is now on the shelf, and none of the younger guys seem to be able to step up. I'd have to say pitching is quite thin now.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 10:23:28 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 09, 2009, 10:19:25 AM
ScotsFan,
      You have your facts wrong. A single and 2 walks loaded the bases for Woo before Boucher was pulled. 3 singles scored the 5 runs.
With Trapuzzano out, the Scots will really have to stretch their pitching staff in the post season. Mcdowell, Degrand, and Miller are holding down the rolls of starter, relief, and closer. Who does what and when is up to coach P. They are carrying the work load.

Pitching was to be a strength this season. Barnes has been out since the first game he pitched, Trap is now on the shelf, and none of the younger guys seem to be able to step up. I'd have to say pitching is quite thin now.

THanks guys. Now i know not to pick Wooster in regionals ....lol....
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 09, 2009, 12:45:15 PM
Kenyon site is carrying live stats and has posted the starting line ups for game #2.
Trapuzzano is slated to start for Wooster. First pitch to be thrown at 1:00 pm.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 09, 2009, 01:15:58 PM
Wooster also has a link to listen to the game live on the web:

Wooster-Kenyon live stream (http://wkvx.com/)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 09, 2009, 01:18:25 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 10:23:28 AM
THanks guys. Now i know not to pick Wooster in regionals ....lol....

::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 09, 2009, 01:22:35 PM
Trap gave up a solo HR in the bottom of the 1st.  But Wooster responds to tie things up in the top of the 2nd on 3 straight hits.  But, not one of those hits left the infield...  :P

1-1 with Kenyon coming to bat in their half of the 2nd.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 09, 2009, 02:09:12 PM
Wooster scores 7 times in the top of the 4th and is still batting with a runner on second and 1 out.
Scots lead 8-1.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on May 09, 2009, 02:36:03 PM
The Scots give back 4 runs in the bottom of the 4th, walking home two runners, before striking out the potential go-ahead run to end the inning with the bases loaded.

Wooster 8, Kenyon 5 (end 4th)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 09, 2009, 02:37:47 PM
Quote from: fantastic50 on May 09, 2009, 02:36:03 PM
The Scots give back 4 runs in the bottom of the 4th, walking home two runners, before striking out the potential go-ahead run to end the inning with the bases loaded.

Wooster 8, Kenyon 5 (end 4th)
Kenyon had just 2 hits...  Wooster walked 5 Kenyon batters?!  :-\
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 09, 2009, 03:04:01 PM
5 complete. Woo 8, Kenyon 6.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 09, 2009, 03:05:12 PM
Justin McDowell is making a case for Pitcher of the Year in the NCAC!  He came on after Kenyon had already plated a run with runners on 1st and 2nd and got one out on a sacrifice bunt.  He then got the next batter to ground out and struck out the last batter to end the threat!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 09, 2009, 03:55:35 PM
Bottom of 9.

Wooster 10
Kenyon 6

Kenyon down to their last 3 outs.

Mark Miller is on the mound for his 2nd inning of relief.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 09, 2009, 04:02:21 PM
Congrats to Wooster on winning the NCAC Championship!

Miller sends Kenyon down 1-2-3 in the ninth to preserve the 10-6 win!

Wooster will now more than likely be headed to Adrian, MI for the Mideast Regional!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 09, 2009, 04:35:24 PM
Congratulation to Wooster on winning the championship.

Scots get the job done with with their 3 man pitching staff or 3 1/2 counting the injured Trapuzzano.
With the lack of depth, its important to stay in the winners bracket during the regional. Otherwise it could mean an early exit.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 09, 2009, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 09, 2009, 04:35:24 PM
With the lack of depth, its important to stay in the winners bracket during the regional. Otherwise it could mean an early exit.
And this is something that the Scots have had trouble doing over the last few trips to the Regionals...   :-\
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 09, 2009, 04:51:53 PM
congrats to wooster on the championship!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 11, 2009, 08:55:57 AM
Not a complaint, just a head scratch er. Wooster was ranked #1 and Heidelberg #2  in last Thursdays regional rankings. Woo goes 2-0 over the weekend and Berg 3-0. The Berg leap frogs to the #1 seed and Woo drops to #2?

I've brought this topic up earlier and someone said the edge would go to the OAC school because of SOS. I can buy that. The committee has seemed to flip flop Wooster and Heidelberg between 1 and 2 all season with no real reason to move them. I have  read other objections on this board regarding change in regional rankings that seem to senseless.
I would like to see some consistency in the selection process. This just seems like a  crap shoot.














Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 11, 2009, 11:41:23 AM
^^^^^

I brought this up last week wondering why Wooster was suddenly #1 in the Mideast Region with a worse record than Heide.  It is very frustrating to try and figure out the thought processes of the selection commitee and especially when they are so freaking secretive about the whole process...

One other thing that leaves you scratching your head is how Marietta got in as a 3 seed and Ott didn't get in at all.  When you consider that Ott was ranked ahead of Marietta in the last 'open' regional poll and the Cards were 3-1 vs. Marietta head to head and split games over the weekend, yet Marietta gets a 3 seed in the tournament and Ott is left to clean out their lockers...  :-\
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 11, 2009, 11:50:50 AM
Might as well post this here as well.  Here is the link to the Mideast Regional website.  Thought I'd save everyone the 8 seconds to look it up.  Congrats to Wooster and best of luck.

http://adrianbulldogs.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/09mideastregional.html (http://adrianbulldogs.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/09mideastregional.html)

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 11, 2009, 12:14:22 PM
Now that my rant is out of the way, I think I will turn my focus onto the Mideast Regional.  Here is the list of competitors:

1.  Heidelberg (36-7)
2.  Wooster (35-8)
3.  Marietta (29-15)
4.  Adrian (31-5)
5.  Concordia (Chicago) (33-13)
6.  RHIT (31-12)

Wooster opens with Concordia at 3:30 on Wednesday afternoon following Heide and RHIT.  On paper, this regional appears to be quite stacked as Marietta is the lone representative shy of 30 wins, yet they are still the #3 seed! 

I really don't know much at all about the 4-6 seeds.  I looked at Concordia's stats page and they appear to be pretty even with Wooster at least statistically speaking.  They have a similar team batting avg. and a similar team ERA as well.  Although when you look at the numbers a little closer, their apparent starters have a batting avg. of .308 compared to Wooster's starters at .338.  As for RHIT and Adrian, I really haven't looked that closely although Adrian is the defending Mideast Regional champs and they might come in with a bit of a chip on their shoulders being seeded below the OAC runner ups...

I think the key for the Scots is to go into this regional with the right mindset.  It seems, far too ofthen that in years past they seem tight and place a lot of pressure on themselves and as a result, their bats go silent.  As old scot touched on earlier, it is going to be key for Wooster to win early with their lack of depth on the mound heading into the regional.  With really only 3 proven arms that the Scots can rely on, it is critical for Wooster to stay out of the losers bracket for as long as possible or it could be yet another quick exit out of the post-season for Wooster baseball!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 11, 2009, 02:03:34 PM
I guess there is no rhythm or reason when matching rankings with regional seeding. Check out the NE region. The  number 1 team in the country, Southern Maine, is ranked second in that regional. The number 4 team in the country,ECU, is ranked 1 in that region.

Talk about a tough region. 3 of top 6 teams in the country are in this regional. This tourney looks very difficult, possibly better baseball than what would be played in the CWS!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 11, 2009, 02:40:03 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 11, 2009, 02:03:34 PM
Talk about a tough region. 3 of top 6 teams in the country are in this regional. This tourney looks very difficult, possibly better baseball than what would be played in the CWS!
Yeah.  This definitely could be considered the group or region of death based on national rankings. 

But, conversely one could argure that the gaudy records put up by those 3 teams could be a result of an overall lack of depth in talented teams in the NE region.  I mean, Trinity (CT) only lost 5 games all season, but 2 of those 5 losses were to Denison.  And Denison didn't even make the NCAC Tournament...

Also, if there is another ranking put out before the post season starts, don't expect Southern Maine to be #1 as they lost their last 2 games in their conference tournament. 

Now, I'm not trying to say that Wooster doesn't have an advantage in feasting off of inferior talent in the NCAC East.  But as far as the region as a whole is concerned, I think the Mideast is much deeper in terms of talented teams than the NE.  The reason there aren't more highly ranked teams coming from the Mideast is because they beat each other up during the course of the season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 11, 2009, 04:59:21 PM
Just for comparison, Concordia-Chicago hit a few more HRs than Wooster, but Wooster had the advantage as far as total team batting average and lower ERA. Cougar pitchers will need to be on their game--if they get lit up early, Concordia-Chicago could be on the way to an early exit. Concordia-Chicago's offense kicked into high gear 2 of the 3 wins in their conference tournament.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DarkSide-D on May 11, 2009, 08:31:29 PM
Scot Fan and Old Scot,

I agree about the rankings being messed up.  Personally, I think Woo should be ranked higher that Heidelberg.  Yes, Heidelberg has one win more than Woo, but Woo also beat Heidelberg 2 out of 3 times.  Hopefully we have have an opportunity in the regional to see the teams play each other to settle the issue.  And of course, hopefully Woo will come out on top.

Go Scots!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on May 12, 2009, 01:30:09 PM
Wooster defeated every OAC opponent this season except for B-W. Wooster beat H-berg 2/3, Marietta, Wilmington, Muskingum and Mt. Union. Against B-W, the Scots threw all of their youngsters so that loss is irrelevant. It is quite conceivable that Wooster and H-berg could meet in the Regional final... then it comes down to how much pitching each side has left!!! Go Scots!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 12, 2009, 02:41:00 PM
Mcdade,
       You called it. Woo and Berg could meet in the finals but, the Scots are short on pitching from the start. Top pitchers Barnes has not thrown since March due to arm trouble and Trapuzzano is throwing but not really effective due to arm problems.
That leaves them with 3 arms to rely on since no one else has stepped up and meet the challenge. Staying out of the losers bracket as long as possible will tell how far the Scots can go.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 13, 2009, 08:15:21 PM
The All-NCAC Team was released today.

Congratulations to Sean Karpen on repeating as NCAC POY!  I didn't realize this until today, but Karpen hit safely in all but one game this season for the Scots!!! :o

And also, congrats to Mark Miller as he was named Pitcher of the Year.  With Miller winning the award, this now makes it 5 years in a row a Wooster pitcher has garnered the award!

All in all, 9 Scots make the All-NCAC team.  Joining Miller and Karpen on the 1st team are Matt Groezinger, John Warren and Justin McDowell.  Anthony Trapuzzano, Matt DeGrand and Stu Beath earned 2nd team honors while Zac Vesco was named honorable mention.

Denison was also well represented with 8 players making all-conference.  And 7 of the 8 will be back next season!!! :o  The future looks pretty bright in Granville!

And lasly, old scot will be happy to hear that Kenyon's Matt Burdette won Coach of the Year honors!  ;)  Congratulations to Coach Burdette on a very deserving honor! 

Here is a link:

2009 All-NCAC Team (http://www.northcoast.org/ba/baallncac09.pdf)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 13, 2009, 10:43:34 PM
ScotFan,
       I am pleased to see ex Scot and current Kenyon head coach Matt Burdette receive COY honors. At least NCAC coaches look at the whole body of work and don't  just vote for the front runner.
Congratulations to all Wooster players receiving all conference honors.

As far as Denison is concerned, I thought this season would be their break out year. They had a very successful season last year and had some big wins. I really expected more from them this season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 14, 2009, 04:50:26 PM
My congratulations to Wooster for their first round win today at Adrian, MI.
Go Scots.  Continue to represent the NCAC with skill and class.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 14, 2009, 04:58:36 PM
I meant to post this before the NCAA regionals got under way but oh well, better late than never...

Not to take too much spotlight away from Wooster as they battle on in the tourney, I wanted to raise a glass to two Wabash seniors who finished spectacular careers for the Scarlet & White.  First team all NCAC players Matt Dodaro and Jake Thomas were four year starters and now own virtually every single season and career offensive records for Wabash.  I applaud their dedication to raising the bar for Wabash baseball and I hope that more than their records live on.  I hope the underclassmen returning keep up the legacy of competitive play these two gentlemen brought to the program.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 14, 2009, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 13, 2009, 10:43:34 PM
As far as Denison is concerned, I thought this season would be their break out year. They had a very successful season last year and had some big wins. I really expected more from them this season.
I see what you mean regarding Denison falling short of expectations this season.  I was just basing my prediction on the fact that 7 of their 8 all-conference honorees will be back next season which should equate to a pretty good Denison squad next season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 20, 2009, 12:00:23 PM
Congratulations to Wooster's selections to the D3baseball.com All-America team:

Justin McDowell and Matt Groezinger each made 1st Team AA.

I'm a bit surprised that Sean Karpen didn't make the team somewhere as well as Mark Miller, but there are only so many spots for a ton of worthy athletes.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 22, 2009, 11:27:14 AM
I forgot all about Wooster's Matt Johnson.  In listening to today's radio broadcast it was mentioned that Matt needed surgery after "putting his hand throgh a window."  What happened?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 22, 2009, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: countyroad on May 22, 2009, 11:27:14 AM
I forgot all about Wooster's Matt Johnson.  In listening to today's radio broadcast it was mentioned that Matt needed surgery after "putting his hand throgh a window."  What happened?

Do you have a link to the boradcast?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 22, 2009, 11:34:21 AM
Sure do!

Radio broadcast:

http://www.wkvx.com/LiveStreamFrame.php
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 22, 2009, 01:51:30 PM
Final:  Wooster 8  Carthage 1

Scots get the first game victory at the World Series! :)  Justin McDowell delivered another great performance with 8 terrific innings and only 1 run allowed.

Next up is the winner of the Kean - Trinity contest.  Scots will play them tomorrow afternoon at 5:30 pm EST.

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Gramps on May 22, 2009, 02:05:09 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 22, 2009, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: countyroad on May 22, 2009, 11:27:14 AM
I forgot all about Wooster's Matt Johnson.  In listening to today's radio broadcast it was mentioned that Matt needed surgery after "putting his hand throgh a window."  What happened?

Do you have a link to the boradcast?

Big Poppa, Go to D3Baseball and to the schedule and click on live video to watch the game. It was great.  Enjoy.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 22, 2009, 02:53:08 PM
Nice way to start things off for the Scots at the CWS.  Is there anywhere to get a box score?  I was just wondering how many pitches Justin had to throw today. 

Regardless, it was another outstanding performance by McDowell as he proved yet again worthy of his All-American status!  I think McDowell may have exceeded expectations by a little this year.  Here's what it said about him in the Scot's Media Guide:

QuoteHas the potential to earn a lot of key innings ...

Judging from the fact that he tied the scool record for wins in a season set back in 1994, I'd say he's definitely exceeded his potential for this season!   8)

Also, I guess it was a good thing Wooster didn't take the day off on Tuesday as it said in the preview in the DR.  Pettorini said the guys wanted to take BP and that they looked very good in their session and it looks like it carried over to today as they reached double digits in hits!  8)

Let's keep this run rolling Woo!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 22, 2009, 04:59:54 PM
Very impressive performance today! Nice win. This team may be peaking at the right time!
Congrat's to M. Miller, J. McDowell, and S. Karpen on ABCA All American honors. Also, to coach P. on Mid East COY.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 22, 2009, 05:47:05 PM
The box score on the World Series site doesn't say how many pitches, it'd be nice to know though!!  McDowell threw so well today.  If Miller can follow-up tomorrow with a nice game, Wooster will be in great shape.

They will be playing Kean at 5:30pm.

*** oh yeah, and congrats to the ABCA selection committee for getting it right and making Karpen and Miller BOTH All-Americans, along with McDowell. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 22, 2009, 06:20:15 PM
Mid East,
       And also C. Cimino from Etta and all other honorees from the OAC. Ohio baseball is strong.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Gramps on May 22, 2009, 07:33:29 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 22, 2009, 06:20:15 PM
Mid East,
       And also C. Cimino from Etta and all other honorees from the OAC. Ohio baseball is strong.




Old Scot:  And also Gar Keene and Andy Lowe from Heidleberg according to the Heidelberg web site.. Ohiio baseball is indeed very strong!! And these young men are only Sophmores and will be around for two more years.

Also congrats to Tom Petorini - Mid-East Coach of the Year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 22, 2009, 08:03:27 PM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 22, 2009, 05:47:05 PM
*** oh yeah, and congrats to the ABCA selection committee for getting it right and making Karpen and Miller BOTH All-Americans, along with McDowell. 
Agreed!  8)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 23, 2009, 09:14:21 PM
Wooster is now 2-0 in the World Series after knocking off Kean by a 14-1 score. :)

Congratulations to Justin McDowell and Mark Miller on back to back tremendous pitching performances.

The Scots need some other pitchers to step up tomorrow in their 3rd game against the St. Thomas/Shenandoah winner if they hope to stay in the winners bracket and have a good shot at the championship.

When Wooster takes the field tomorrow, there will only be 4 teams left in the tournament!

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on May 23, 2009, 10:21:50 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on May 23, 2009, 09:14:21 PM
Wooster is now 2-0 in the World Series after knocking off Kean by a 14-1 score. :)

Congratulations to Justin McDowell and Mark Miller on back to back tremendous pitching performances.

The Scots need some other pitchers to step up tomorrow in their 3rd game against the St. Thomas/Shenandoah winner if they hope to stay in the winners bracket and have a good shot at the championship.

When Wooster takes the field tomorrow, there will only be 4 teams left in the tournament!

GO SCOTS!

Pretty impressive with a combined score of 22-2 in the first two games! 

I assume that the Scots will go with Trap / DeGrand tomorrow, and bring McDowell back on 2 days rest on Monday.  At least that's the rotation that they used in the Regional.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 24, 2009, 12:52:44 AM
If they can win against St Thomas, they won't need to bring McDowell back on Monday....that game will be a throw away, as the winner of the winner's bracket final will automatically be in the Championship.  The only thing to be decided at that point is whether they need to win one of two, or just a winner-take-all final.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 24, 2009, 10:12:48 AM
Quote from: imderekpoe on May 23, 2009, 10:21:50 PM
I assume that the Scots will go with Trap / DeGrand tomorrow, and bring McDowell back on 2 days rest on Monday.  At least that's the rotation that they used in the Regional.

I just hope the Scots play better defense than what they played the last time they went with the duo of Trap and DeGrand.  It was Wooster's six errors that did them in that day vs. Marietta.  Not the pitching of Trap and DeGrand.

This is a HUGE game for Wooster today.  Win, and they're off until Tuesday where they would at most have to play 2 games.  Lose and they will have to play one tomorrow and 2 to win it on Tuesday.  Talk about stretching yourself thin...

So, with a win tonight, Wooster will be one win away from bringing home the Walnut and Bronze to Wooster!  8)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on May 24, 2009, 10:42:08 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 24, 2009, 10:12:48 AM

I just hope the Scots play better defense than what they played the last time they went with the duo of Trap and DeGrand.  It was Wooster's six errors that did them in that day vs. Marietta.  Not the pitching of Trap and DeGrand.

This is a HUGE game for Wooster today.  Win, and they're off until Tuesday where they would at most have to play 2 games.  Lose and they will have to play one tomorrow and 2 to win it on Tuesday.  Talk about stretching yourself thin...

So, with a win tonight, Wooster will be one win away from bringing home the Walnut and Bronze to Wooster!  8)

Agreed that they need to play better in the field than they did in the loss to Marietta last week.  Fielding has often been their downfall in the regionals/finals, but with the exception of that game its been pretty good.  I could be wrong, but I think that most of the errors thus far have been by the pitchers!

However, there is no off day.  Win or lose today, they play a single game tomorrow. although the schedule isn't clear what tomorrow's matchups are. 

Because of the way the schedule is set, it turns out that the only way to win the championship by winning only 4 games is to actually lose today's game!  There's a discussion of this here:  http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6387.msg1069747#msg1069747

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Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 24, 2009, 11:00:25 AM
If they win today (which I really hope they do!!!), then they can lose tomorrow, and they would still be in GAME 15, which is the winner-take-all Championship.

If they win today, then win tomorrow as well, they would be in a situation where they would be playing a Championship on Tuesday, and would have to lose TWICE.

Today's game is the BIG ONE.  If they win, they are automatically in the Championship, and get technically rest McDowell and Miller, and they will both be rady for Tuesday!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 24, 2009, 01:55:31 PM
Quote from: imderekpoe on May 24, 2009, 10:42:08 AM
Because of the way the schedule is set, it turns out that the only way to win the championship by winning only 4 games is to actually lose today's game! 
No, today's game is a virtual must-win game for Wooster.  The situation you're thinking of applies to Game 13, scheduled for tomorrow and matching the winner of this evening's game and one of the winners from today's day session. 

If Wooster wins today, they will play tomorrow against a team TBA (Shenandoah, if they win this afternoon, or Chapman if they survive, otherwise Carthage; it can't be Kean).  If they win that game, they'd be in the championship needing to win one of two games for the title.  That adds up to 5 wins (Carthage, Kean, St. Thomas, tomorrow's game, and the championship.)  If they lose that game, they still go to the championship, but lose the margin for error--they'd have to win a single winner-take-all game.  That's just four wins in toto--Carthage, Kean, St. Thomas, and the championship.

If the Scots lose today, they would play tomorrow in an elimination game against a team TBA (same opponent as above scenario.)  If they win that game, they'd have to win two games on Tuesday to win the title.  Again, that's 5 wins: Carthage, Kean, tomorrow's game, and twice on Tuesday. 

I'm very pessimistic that the Scots have the pitching to win three games in two days.  Both Spahn and Sain McDowell and Miller would be on short rest, and still they'd need a win from DeGrand or Trapuzzano or whoever, probably in pressure-packed Game 15.  A win today behind a "staff" pitching effort means that wins from the two aces add up to a title.  The only question would be, do you use McDowell on Monday in the "throwaway" game, or save him for Tuesday?  If you save him, you have both aces available for one winner-take-all game Tuesday--reminiscent of the Diamondbacks in Game 7 of 2001 (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ARI/ARI200111040.shtml). 

Either way, I like Wooster's chances a lot if they win today, and I don't like them at all if they lose today.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 24, 2009, 03:06:10 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on May 24, 2009, 01:55:31 PM
Quote from: imderekpoe on May 24, 2009, 10:42:08 AM
Because of the way the schedule is set, it turns out that the only way to win the championship by winning only 4 games is to actually lose today's game! 
No, today's game is a virtual must-win game for Wooster.  The situation you're thinking of applies to Game 13, scheduled for tomorrow and matching the winner of this evening's game and one of the winners from today's day session. 

If Wooster wins today, they will play tomorrow against a team TBA (Shenandoah, if they win this afternoon, or Chapman if they survive, otherwise Carthage; it can't be Kean).  If they win that game, they'd be in the championship needing to win one of two games for the title.  That adds up to 5 wins (Carthage, Kean, St. Thomas, tomorrow's game, and the championship.)  If they lose that game, they still go to the championship, but lose the margin for error--they'd have to win a single winner-take-all game.  That's just four wins in toto--Carthage, Kean, St. Thomas, and the championship.

If the Scots lose today, they would play tomorrow in an elimination game against a team TBA (same opponent as above scenario.)  If they win that game, they'd have to win two games on Tuesday to win the title.  Again, that's 5 wins: Carthage, Kean, tomorrow's game, and twice on Tuesday. 

I'm very pessimistic that the Scots have the pitching to win three games in two days.  Both Spahn and Sain McDowell and Miller would be on short rest, and still they'd need a win from DeGrand or Trapuzzano or whoever, probably in pressure-packed Game 15.  A win today behind a "staff" pitching effort means that wins from the two aces add up to a title.  The only question would be, do you use McDowell on Monday in the "throwaway" game, or save him for Tuesday?  If you save him, you have both aces available for one winner-take-all game Tuesday--reminiscent of the Diamondbacks in Game 7 of 2001 (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ARI/ARI200111040.shtml). 

Either way, I like Wooster's chances a lot if they win today, and I don't like them at all if they lose today.

David - good summary (k+) of the potential scenarios and I agree with you completely that Wooster's best chance for a championship is by winning today's game vs. St. Thomas...that was the implied point of my post yesterday about the rest of the pitching staff stepping up.

If Wooster wins today and gets to 3-0, they will play a 4th game on Monday (Game #13 on the bracket).  If they lose that 4th game and 3 teams are still in the tourney, Wooster would then get the bye into Game #15 on Tuesday to play for the championship.  See the bracket sheet where it states, "the winner of game #11 receives the bye into game #15".  With this scenario, Wooster is still playing 5 games total for the tourney.  It is still a good scenario for the Scots because "the staff" pitches game #3 with McDowell in game #4 and Miller in game #5 assuming they can go on short rest.  Of course, if Wooster finishes with a 5-0 record, they also win the title.

If Wooster loses today and is 2-1, they go to the loser's bracket and they could have to play a total of 6 games with no additional losses to win the tourney.  Scots are short on pitching and not likely to win their last 3 games in a row to clinch the championship in this scenario.  So, a win today vs. St. Thomas is critical for Wooster's title chances.

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 24, 2009, 04:26:01 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on May 24, 2009, 01:55:31 PM

I'm very pessimistic that the Scots have the pitching to win three games in two days.  Both  McDowell and Miller would be on short rest, and still they'd need a win from DeGrand or Trapuzzano or whoever, probably in pressure-packed Game 15.  A win today behind a "staff" pitching effort means that wins from the two aces add up to a title.  The only question would be, do you use McDowell on Monday in the "throwaway" game, or save him for Tuesday?  If you save him, you have both aces available for one winner-take-all game Tuesday--reminiscent of the Diamondbacks in Game 7 of 2001 (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ARI/ARI200111040.shtml). 

Either way, I like Wooster's chances a lot if they win today, and I don't like them at all if they lose today.


short rest won't hurt McDowell and Miller at all...see last weekend's Regional Results.  McDowell threw on Thurs and Sunday....and Miller threw on Saturday and Monday.

All four outings were extended innings of 8.1, 7, 9, and 9 innings respectively (and wins).


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 24, 2009, 08:28:00 PM
With Kean and Shenandoah eliminated earlier today, the 4 remaining teams are Wooster, St. Thomas, Carthage and Chapman.

Assuming that the tournament committee wants to avoid rematches in games tomorrow, the likely schedule will be Wooster vs. Chapman and St. Thomas vs. Carthage....regardless of the outcome of the Woo-St. Thomas game tonight.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 24, 2009, 08:31:34 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on May 24, 2009, 08:28:00 PM
With Kean and Shenandoah eliminated earlier today, the 4 remaining teams are Wooster, St. Thomas, Carthage and Chapman.

Assuming that the tournament committee wants to avoid rematches in games tomorrow, the likely schedule will be Wooster vs. Chapman and St. Thomas vs. Carthage....regardless of the outcome of the Woo-St. Thomas game tonight.

+1  correct!

tonight's game will just determine the game times.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 24, 2009, 09:45:25 PM
DeGrand is pitching beautifully tonight.  Because of his performance, if the Scots can hang on and win this game, it gives Pettorini the luxury of starting Trapuzzano tomorrow and saving both McDowell and Miller for Tuesday.  I half expected Trap to pitch in this game, but now I think it'll be bullpen guys if DeGrand needs help.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on May 24, 2009, 10:18:46 PM
Has Wooster ever won an NCAA championship in any team sport?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 24, 2009, 10:25:35 PM
Quote from: fantastic50 on May 24, 2009, 10:18:46 PM
Has Wooster ever won an NCAA championship in any team sport?
Men's golf, 1975.  If I remember correctly, the College hosted that event, resulting is a huge home-course advantage.  Greg Nye, long-time coach Bob Nye's son, was the top golfer on the squad and may have been the medalist in that event.

But that's it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 24, 2009, 10:27:13 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on May 24, 2009, 10:25:35 PM
Quote from: fantastic50 on May 24, 2009, 10:18:46 PM
Has Wooster ever won an NCAA championship in any team sport?
Men's golf, 1975.  If I remember correctly, the College hosted that event, resulting is a huge home-course advantage.  Greg Nye, long-time coach Bob Nye's son, was the top golfer on the squad and may have been the medalist in that event.

But that's it.

men's golf.....lol

the only Wooster trivia-bit that I've heard tonight from these horrible announcers.  Now, if you want to know anything about St. Thomas you're good to go with these dudes!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 24, 2009, 11:01:18 PM
Final:  Wooster 3  St. Thomas 0  :)

Terrific performance by Matt DeGrand who pitched 7 scoreless innings! ;D  Justin McDowell works the last 2 innings to get the key win for Wooster and keep the Scots in the winners bracket.

Wooster will next play Chapman in the second game tomorrow afternoon.  Carthage and St. Thomas play in the first game.

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 24, 2009, 11:07:43 PM
I'm guessing Wooster will throw Trap and johnny whole staff tomorrow, and have the big guns both fueled and reay for Tuesday!!!

They are in the driver's seat big time now!

****  and they are my pick to win the tournament in the May Madness pool.  I've gotten 9 of 11 games correct so far! :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 25, 2009, 12:43:21 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 24, 2009, 11:07:43 PM
I'm guessing Wooster will throw Trap and johnny whole staff tomorrow, and have the big guns both fueled and reay for Tuesday!!!

They are in the driver's seat big time now!

****  and they are my pick to win the tournament in the May Madness pool.  I've gotten 9 of 11 games correct so far! :)
Holy ****!  I did not see this coming!  I have to tip my freaking hat to Matt DeGrand for coming up HUGE last night for the Scots!!!  I would have guessed that Trap was getting the start last night.  Assuming that Trap can still go, one has to assume he will be the starter and finish the game pitcher by committee in tomorrow's game... 

I'm assuming Trap is healthy enough to start that is.   :-\

And that leaves fairly well rested AA's McDowell and Miller available for Tuesday!  It does appear that Woo is, most definitely, in the driver's seat...  8)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wordsmith on May 25, 2009, 07:58:39 AM
Good Luck to the Wooster Scots.

Am over here from the New England board and am a fan of Western New England as my son coaches there; also a big fan of Keene State as I live near their left field line.

However, as a native Ohioian, and a proud graduate of Doylestown High Crass of '72 I can easily root for the Scots. I stayed up late last night watching Wooster and liked what I saw.

My only concern would be the issue of mind-set and desperation...when a team is on the brink they sometimes play with nothing to lose, with an attitude of 'Hey what the heck, lets go out playing hard with our head up and have some fun.'

The position Wooster is in, while preferable, is emotionally the most challenging. They can, if not careful, ride into the Championship round with a "Hey we always got the next game' mindset. Coaching and team leaders setting the stage are IMO so critical today.

Soooo go Scots...Finish it

Word 8)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 25, 2009, 08:51:36 AM
The Wooster pitching staff has been outstanding through the regional and the CWS so far. Great stuff.
The offense is swinging the bat well and Coach P has re-discovered the SAC bunt during the last two series.
The defense has also been uncharacteristically solid.
This is the perfect recipe for winning ball games.
Keep it up boys! Win it for all those who came before you, that built the foundation, building, and tradition of Wooster Baseball. Finish the penthouse that no other Wooster team has been able to do! Finish it, so we have a place to put the Walnut and Bronze! Most importantly, finish it for yourselves!



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on May 25, 2009, 07:58:15 PM
With the "M&M boys" pitching tomorrow, and two chances to beat St. Thomas again, Wooster couldn't ask for a better position going into the championship finals.  Bring it home, Scots!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 25, 2009, 09:21:40 PM
Great to see Wooster stay undefeated today by eliminating Chapman 11-7. :)  The bats for the Scots took control early and never let Chapman get into this game.

Most importantly, Wooster now only needs one more win for the title and with today's win, they have two games if needed to get the job completed.

With the rest of the team stepping up to win games #3 and #4, we now have McDowell and Miller ready to get Wooster to the finish line tomorrow as fantastic50 noted.

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 25, 2009, 09:26:13 PM
Best of luck tomorrow Scots!  Bring the walnut & bronze back to Ohio!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 26, 2009, 03:45:10 PM
This is one heck of an impressive run that the Scots are on.  Close the deal tomorrow, gentlemen! 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 26, 2009, 06:24:39 PM
Ah, well.  It was fun while it lasted.  National titles just aren't our thang in Northeast Ohio (Alliance notwithstanding).  Congratulations to the Scots on a great season and excellent tournament.

Wooster gets to exact a small amount of revenge when St. Thomas' men's basketball team visits the Hill for the Van Wie Classic in December.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: SUMMIT!!!!! on May 26, 2009, 06:36:10 PM
Congtats to Wooster on a great tourney. You guys played like champs!

David C-- I dunno about that revenge come Nov...UST returns 8 of its top 12 players from last season, including the MIAC MVP. But it should be a great tourney, as it always is!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: scotty on May 26, 2009, 06:42:58 PM
Congrats to the Scots on a great run. It hurts now but we're proud of you.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 26, 2009, 06:47:19 PM
Congrats to the Scots on a great run.  I can't believe that game ended in the 12th and Wooster only used 1 pitcher!  Unbelievable effort.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on May 26, 2009, 08:12:00 PM
Obviously, the loss will hurt for a long while for these young men in black and gold.  That being said, I'm very proud of what this Wooster team accomplished.  I hope that there is a big crowd to greet them when the bus rolls in at the campus.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 26, 2009, 08:18:18 PM
Wooster's accomplishments in the 2009 season:

43-11 overall record
North Coast Athletic Conference Championship
MidEast Regional Championship
2nd Place National Finish in the World Series

Congratulations to Coach Pettorini and the Scots on a terrific season!  :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonFan on May 26, 2009, 08:53:50 PM
Who would have thought in midseason that Wooster would be playing for the national title?  I enjoyed watching Wooster's impressive performance all the way through the tournament. Thought they had it.

Gritty pitching performances. How long could Miller go? 12? 13? Forever?

Congrats to all the players, coaches and fans of the Scots!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on May 26, 2009, 10:42:44 PM
Congratulations to all involved with Wooster baseball on a fantastic season and unbelievable post-season.  Way to represent the NCAC.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: oacfan on May 27, 2009, 08:35:06 AM
EPIC CHOKE!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 27, 2009, 10:14:55 AM
OACfan,
       Your comment validates your ignorance of baseball knowledge. Obviously you don't recognize great baseball played by two great teams.

That being said, congratulations to the Tommies on a championship and the Scots on a great season. The two championship games were tightly contested and well played.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 27, 2009, 10:37:03 AM
Some final thoughts on the championship games.
St. T. took every opportunity to advance runners that reached base with no outs. Nine SAC's in 2 games. This kept pressure on Woo's pitchers and defense.

St.T had 4 two out RBI's vs 1 for Woo.

Great pitching from both teams. Scot pitchers work out of quite a few jambs,St. T left 24 runners on base vs the Scots 11.

Great performances by St. T's Stone going 7 relief innings giving up only 3 hits and Woo's Miller leaving everything he had on the field going 11 plus on 2 day rest.
Great defense played by both teams. Only 3 errors committed in 21 innings.The Scots turned 5 DPs in game 2 to hold them in there.

Overall good baseball, no, I mean GREAT BASEBALL. The Tommies were just a little better on this day.

Finally, Thanks for the great season Wooster. I enjoyed all the highs and felt the disappointment of the lows.
Thank you seniors for 4 years of great baseball. Although you didn't reach your ultimate goal, you certainly left your mark on the program and history of Wooster Baseball. Your commitment, success, and leadership will be passed down to the underclassmen and they in turn will pass it along to future players. That is what keeps us all connected. Good luck on your future endeavors.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: oacfan on May 27, 2009, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 27, 2009, 10:14:55 AM
OACfan,
       Your comment validates your ignorance of baseball knowledge. Obviously you don't recognize great baseball played by two great teams.


Ignorance of baseball knowledge.. HAHA 

I have urinated on better fields than you ever played on..

Great baseball played by one team (Tommies) and a huge dissappointment by another that contiues to choke year in and year out.  I wonder if Coach P was throwing baseball bats in the dugout again..  Then again its hard to playball with two hands around your neck
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 27, 2009, 12:10:54 PM
Again, proving your ignorance.

How did you get a computer when you have to urinate outside? You mean you still don't have in-door plumbing?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 27, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
Have a little respect and sympathy for Wooster. I know how it feels to lose like that....difficult to describe.

You have to wonder how they would have played if they would not have been forced to play on Monday. I personally like the other format better, and division I CWS format the best. The winner of game 11 should be rewarded.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 27, 2009, 01:13:32 PM
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Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: oacfan on May 27, 2009, 02:25:15 PM
Then again there is always next year..
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bufordscot on May 27, 2009, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: oacfan on May 27, 2009, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 27, 2009, 10:14:55 AM
OACfan,
       Your comment validates your ignorance of baseball knowledge. Obviously you don't recognize great baseball played by two great teams.


Ignorance of baseball knowledge.. HAHA 

I have urinated on better fields than you ever played on..

Great baseball played by one team (Tommies) and a huge dissappointment by another that contiues to choke year in and year out.  I wonder if Coach P was throwing baseball bats in the dugout again..  Then again its hard to playball with two hands around your neck

Truly Classless
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: oacfan on May 27, 2009, 02:33:15 PM
Quote from: bufordscot on May 27, 2009, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: oacfan on May 27, 2009, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 27, 2009, 10:14:55 AM
OACfan,
       Your comment validates your ignorance of baseball knowledge. Obviously you don't recognize great baseball played by two great teams.


Ignorance of baseball knowledge.. HAHA 

I have urinated on better fields than you ever played on..

Great baseball played by one team (Tommies) and a huge dissappointment by another that contiues to choke year in and year out.  I wonder if Coach P was throwing baseball bats in the dugout again..  Then again its hard to playball with two hands around your neck

Truly Classless

Yet its ok when your head coach almost decapitates somebody with a bat in the dug out...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 27, 2009, 05:28:36 PM
Quote from: oacfan on May 27, 2009, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 27, 2009, 10:14:55 AM
OACfan,
       Your comment validates your ignorance of baseball knowledge. Obviously you don't recognize great baseball played by two great teams.


Ignorance of baseball knowledge.. HAHA 

I have urinated on better fields than you ever played on..

Great baseball played by one team (Tommies) and a huge dissappointment by another that contiues to choke year in and year out.  I wonder if Coach P was throwing baseball bats in the dugout again..  Then again its hard to playball with two hands around your neck

Is there any chance you might change your name to "pacfan"?  If you're going to make posts like this could you at least associate yourself with a conference that doesn't have any other posters? 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 27, 2009, 07:00:19 PM
Quote from: oacfan on May 27, 2009, 08:35:06 AM
EPIC CHOKE!
Where was B-W again???  Your time on this board should be short lived with your continued worthless drivel you add to this board...  ::)

Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 27, 2009, 05:28:36 PM
Is there any chance you might change your name to "pacfan"?  If you're going to make posts like this could you at least associate yourself with a conference that doesn't have any other posters? 
Or maybe he could be known as "oactroll"...  ???  Seems to be more fitting. 

With that off my chest, and now that I have had 24 hours to process what happened yesterday, I want to first throw out my congratulations to UST on one hell of a performance in both games.  It just goes to show what playing fundamentally sound baseball will do for you.  And the Tommies were just that both offensively and defensively!

Wooster had been making a habit of getting the timely hit throughout the postseason and especially in the 1st four games of the CWS.  And yesterday, that timely hit just wasn't there when they needed it. 

I can't imagine what those kids are feeling right now.  Even Ken Nemeth sounded like he was holding back the tears as he sounded off yesterday.  And while it is disappointing that Wooster couldn't get the job done, Wooster still has a lot to be proud of this season!  The sting of what transpired yesterday will take some time to go away, but once the pain is gone, the realization will hit that this team had one hell of a great season and have a hell of a lot to be proud of!

I have to admit, my hopes weren't all that high coming into the season that Wooster would go as far as they did.  And then they lost Barnes for the year and my expectations lowered even more.  So the fact that Wooster came within a game of winning it all and coming home as the 2nd best team in DIII is still one hell of an accomplishment and nothing to hang your head over!  Congratulations to you all on one hell of a run you gave us fans and another great season. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 27, 2009, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 27, 2009, 07:00:19 PM
Quote from: oacfan on May 27, 2009, 08:35:06 AM
EPIC CHOKE!
Where was B-W again???  Your time on this board should be short lived with your continued worthless drivel you add to this board...  ::)

Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 27, 2009, 05:28:36 PM
Is there any chance you might change your name to "pacfan"?  If you're going to make posts like this could you at least associate yourself with a conference that doesn't have any other posters? 
Or maybe he could be known as "oactroll"...  ???  Seems to be more fitting. 

With that off my chest, and now that I have had 24 hours to process what happened yesterday, I want to first throw out my congratulations to UST on one hell of a performance in both games.  It just goes to show what playing fundamentally sound baseball will do for you.  And the Tommies were just that both offensively and defensively!

Wooster had been making a habit of getting the timely hit throughout the postseason and especially in the 1st four games of the CWS.  And yesterday, that timely hit just wasn't there when they needed it. 

I can't imagine what those kids are feeling right now.  Even Ken Nemeth sounded like he was holding back the tears as he sounded off yesterday.  And while it is disappointing that Wooster couldn't get the job done, Wooster still has a lot to be proud of this season!  The sting of what transpired yesterday will take some time to go away, but once the pain is gone, the realization will hit that this team had one hell of a great season and have a hell of a lot to be proud of!

I have to admit, my hopes weren't all that high coming into the season that Wooster would go as far as they did.  And then they lost Barnes for the year and my expectations lowered even more.  So the fact that Wooster came within a game of winning it all and coming home as the 2nd best team in DIII is still one hell of an accomplishment and nothing to hang your head over!  Congratulations to you all on one hell of a run you gave us fans and another great season. 
I agree.. Mr Nemeth seemed about a half-second away from breaking down.

Does Mr Nemeth do all of Wooster's baseball games?  What other sports?

For a local broadcaster like that, my appreciation is the dedication that that person shows to the institution.  Thanks to all of the Ken Nemeth's across D-III.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 27, 2009, 08:33:35 PM
Quote from: miacmaniac on May 26, 2009, 06:36:10 PM
David C-- I dunno about that revenge come Nov...UST returns 8 of its top 12 players from last season, including the MIAC MVP. But it should be a great tourney, as it always is!
Wooster can do UST one better as the Scots return all but one next season including D3hoops.com national Rookie of the Year...  8)

And you are correct, it should be a great tourney!  :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 27, 2009, 08:39:52 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 27, 2009, 07:12:00 PM
I agree.. Mr Nemeth seemed about a half-second away from breaking down.

Does Mr Nemeth do all of Wooster's baseball games?  What other sports?

For a local broadcaster like that, my appreciation is the dedication that that person shows to the institution.  Thanks to all of the Ken Nemeth's across D-III.
I know he does all of the Wooster baseball games and he has been doing it for quite some time.  Here's a link to a story ran by the Wooster Daily Record last year on his broadcasting career:

Nemeth retiring after 48 years at WQKT
(http://www.the-daily-record.com/news/article/3745101)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on May 27, 2009, 09:30:44 PM
About two dozen students and boosters (and one professor) came out this evening to greet the team upon their return to campus.  Athletic director Keith Beckett spoke briefly, talking about how much this team accomplished, and how proud of them he was, and Coach Pettorini thanked the fans for their support.  Although obviously it hurts to lose like that, most of the young men were surprisingly upbeat.

I did get some bad news at that reception; sophomore shortstop Matthew Pierce is transferring to the University of Oklahoma, back in his home state.  Matt is a good kid, as well as a solid ballplayer, and he will be missed.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on May 27, 2009, 10:31:15 PM
I'm reasonably certain that Ken Nemeth was calling high school basketball games back when I was in junior high.  I spent many long hours with my ear glued to WWST (or "Radio Wooster") listening to local high school hoops and the Cleveland Indians broadcasts as well as the nightly newscast that used Prokoviev's Classical Symphony as it's theme.  Ah, those were the days. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on June 08, 2009, 12:04:15 PM
Do we know some of the new ball players that will be attending Wooster next year as freshmen?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on June 11, 2009, 11:13:10 AM
I was just thumbing through the 6/8/09 issue of SI and thought "Hey that looks like a CoW jersey".  Well, it is.  In the "Leading Off" section that starts each issue w/ 2 page photos there is a photo of Mark Miller walking away from home plate while the Tommies celebrate in the background.  I know it's probably not what the Scot fans want to see right now, but I thought I would point it out since it is in SI.  Plus it mentions Miller's ridiculous 11.1 inning effort in the caption.  Congrats again on the great season.  No doubt the Scots will be contending again next year. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on June 11, 2009, 11:45:54 AM
Below is an article from the Wooster Daily Record about that photo and the photographer.

http://www.the-daily-record.com/news/article/4603178 (http://www.the-daily-record.com/news/article/4603178)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on June 16, 2009, 03:03:46 PM
NCAC Commissioner Dennis Collins passes away of a heart attack. (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2009/06/15/ncac-commissioner-dies-of-a-heart-attack.html)  RIP, Dennis.  :'(
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: SCOTSman on June 16, 2009, 04:02:44 PM
I'm excited to finally have an account set up here at d3.com!  First, congrats to Wooster and St. Thomas for standing head and shoulders over the rest of the field at this years world series.  As scary as Woo was this year, they should be BETTER talent wise next year.  Groezinger and Beath will be top hitters nationally and Johnson and Barnes who were figured to be Woosters two lynch pins this year will be back to full health.  There is going to be a ton of senior leadership next year, and the most important thing in my mind is that the scots will KNOW they are one of the top two or three teams in the country.  I would think a preseason number 1 or 2 ranking for sure.  Also, was anyone else a little surprised Sean Karpen didn't get drafted!?  Amazing speed and hitter with some pop, and after his performance at the series I thought he was a lock.  OAC fan, I really hope you have played for a national championship with the big talk you put up
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on June 17, 2009, 07:50:28 AM
I was surprised Karpen did not get drafted as well.  As many rounds that there are for baseball it's a real shock to me, especially how he performed in Appleton.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: imderekpoe on June 17, 2009, 08:22:12 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on June 16, 2009, 03:03:46 PM
NCAC Commissioner Dennis Collins passes away of a heart attack. (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2009/06/15/ncac-commissioner-dies-of-a-heart-attack.html)  RIP, Dennis.  :'(

Nice article in the Columbus Dispatch (http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2009/06/17/ncac_collins.ART_ART_06-17-09_C7_ALE719B.html?sid=101) this morning.  Dennis' dedication to the NCAC will clearly be missed.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on June 17, 2009, 01:12:50 PM
My take on why Sean Karpen has not signed with an MLB organization. First, is his age, Sean is a 5th year senior.(he sat out his Frosh year due to injury) Second, above/ average speed, average/ below power, good contact hitter, average arm strength.
What really suprises me is that no independent pro team has signed him. Sean is from Peters Twp. which is a suburb of Pittsburgh. The Washington Wildthings are an independent pro team from just down the road  where he grew up. GIVE THE GUY A SHOT AND SIGN HIM!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: SCOTSman on June 17, 2009, 04:34:43 PM
Very good point old scot, especially considering that Karpen played at Console energy park last summer (home of the Wild Things) in front of Wild Thing personel numerous times for his summer team!  Also my best wishes and prayers go out to friends and family of Dennis Collins who did a fantastic job year in and out with the NCAC.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on June 27, 2009, 04:34:08 PM
Denison is looking for a new coach?  What's the story there?

Denison Opening (http://ncaamarket.ncaa.org/jobdetail.cfm?job=3144621)

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonFan on June 27, 2009, 10:07:36 PM
Coach Dedman's contract wasn't renewed, and the university is interviewing.

As a close observer of the program for more than 10 years, I think the university has made several mistakes here.

I'm not worried about the young coach, who did a very good job in a tough situation. He showed great integrity. It can be tough replacing a coach who gets fired for cause during the school year. It can be tough when you have only three seniors, and one of them quits on his teammates. Or when your best hitter/pitcher breaks team rules and gets suspended, missing the biggest conference series. Still, the coach worked hard, he respected the game, and he'll get picked up by a good program.

I'm more worried about Denison and where the baseball program goes from here. The university is sending its students and their parents all the wrong messages. Parents have learned, if the coach benches your son or makes him run after a game, then all you have to do is complain to the athletic director. If your son is suspended for drinking, all you have to do is complain to the athletic director. The latest twist: Denison's athletic director has invited parents to help choose the next coach. Several parents have told me that they're declining to participate in this effort; as one parent said, it's not high school! Are some parents going to want a coach who expects the players to work hard, who enforces team rules? No.

What decent coach would take a job where making out the lineup requires remembering, "Now, let's see, I'd better start this player at first base, because his father (who might someday give money to our school) led the campaign to hire me."

It's a great school, a great environment in many ways, and I hope the athletic program gets its priorities straight.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on June 28, 2009, 01:58:15 AM
Wow.  That's just sad, DenisonFan.  Fine school, nice program and yet it sounds like whatever coach they select may be handcuffed before he sets foot on campus.  That's doing a disservice to the future coach and, more importantly, to those kids.  What kind of message would that send?  Hopefully this gets straightened out as that should be one of the best small school jobs in Ohio, IMO. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on June 29, 2009, 01:51:58 AM
I feel like I ask you guys this question annually, but what's going on w/ Mott at OWU?  The HC position is still listed on the OWU open jobs page, but the deadline to apply was 2/09.  Now they also posted an Asst. Coach position last week on higheredjobs.com.  Are they just going to keep reopening the HC position to applicants each off season? 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonFan on June 30, 2009, 12:26:53 AM
Copied from JJHuddle board:

QuoteI would like to mention, in response to the post from the d3 page, that the 3 seniors that started with the team in the fall finished with the team in the spring. One didn't play in the last double header due to an injury. Not one of them "quit on his teammates".

and the reply:

QuoteI believe the remark about quitting on teammates didn't refer to the player with injuries, but to the player who hit .213 in conference games and otherwise didn't show the sort of leadership that is expected of seniors.

The AD has told parents that they will be allowed to help choose the next coach, and the ringleader of the parents group has sent out e-mails about this to all parents of current players -- and to players who had committed to come to Denison in the fall. Some of those high schoolers are now having second thoughts, looking again at other programs they had been considering. The university needs to rethink this plan.

True.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bump on June 30, 2009, 08:02:52 AM
Denison has a mess on their hands. Hope it all works out in the end.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DUBALL on June 30, 2009, 03:41:07 PM
Denisonfan,

     Not only is everything that you posted inaccurate, but disrespectful as well. Lets first discuss the player who you believed quit on his teammates because he hit .213 in league play. Just saying that not only makes me mad, but also destroys any credibility in anything you have said. I know the player you are talking about and he busted his butt for four years and did everything he could to help the team. His production during league senior year was not a result of his effort or giving up on his team, rather a simple fluctuation in performance.
   Next let us discuss your statement that Coach Dedman " did a very good job in a tough situation". I agree with you that Denison did make a mistake and that mistake was hiring him in the first place, when there were so many more qualified candidates out there. While Coach Dedman did excerpt large amount of effort in which he should be recognized for, he was not ready in the least bit to run a baseball program. He showed great immaturity in numerous ways, treated his assistant coaches and other staff miserably, did not take any sort of criticism or direction well, and seemed to think he was bigger than the program. Denison is an extremely hard academic institution and when a coach holds 5-6 hour practices student/athletes are unable to find enough time to compete in the classroom. This led the team to have the worst GPA in the last 8 years, which is a big issue. The main concern here is the players did not enjoy their year with him as a head coach. This is not because of their on field performance its because of the way the team was run and how he treated many of the players.
   Secondly, you stated that parents are involved in the hiring of the next coach. While the incoming seniors are involved, which I believe is a good thing there is no parent involvement at all. I am not a parent, but this information is coming directly from the parents of Denison players.
    Finally I have no idea what you are talking about when you are referring to the player suspended. He got into trouble and was reprimanded, no parent complained about him getting suspended and that did not lead to Dedman getting fired. In fact the AD and staff knew there was a problem with Dedmen before any of the players complained. I believe that Denison is sending the right message as a coach is like a government and quoting Thomas Jefferson,
   Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [i.e., securing inherent and inalienable rights, with powers derived from the consent of the governed], it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and    happiness.

Or if you don't agree with this comparison let me point to a quote by Jim Tressel in which he said, "The fate of my job lies in the hands of 18-20 year olds." I hope all this information will set the record straight and show that Denison is heading in the right direction!

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: SCOTSman on June 30, 2009, 04:12:28 PM
hopefully the Denison situation pans out as they have proven to be an above average team over the past few seasons
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: chipper13 on June 30, 2009, 09:47:35 PM
The Denison Baseball situation is an unfortunate one in that this fall will see a 3rd Coach in 4 years for the incoming seniors. Denison is a superb academic institution with extraordinary integrity. Unfortunatley the administration chose the least qualified applicant (after they could not come to terms with 2 other extraordinarily well qualified candidates) and "they paid the price".  Live & learn as they say. No need to go into Coach Dedman's inadequacies but if he is wise, he would genuinely ask the administration for ALL of the feedback and try to learn from his shortcomings (and there are many). Treating kids/players as objects and having NO relationship with ANY of the 37 players tells virtually the entire story. Parents had very very little to do with his firing. Please give the administration some credit. It takes a village to get a Coach fired and there was not 1 player, NOT 1, that would have gone to bat for him. He dug his own grave, wouldn't listen to ANYONE, including his own peers @ the University, was not well liked by many of the opposing Coaches, made an ass of himself far too many times with umpires, and there was nothing, nothing anyone could ever tell him. A real "know-it-all"! Finally, to suggest that parents of current players will have any involvement in the selection process is absurd, an insult to the administration and to the University. The school knows it made a mistake, and it will fix the problem. Ask yourself, have you ever made a bad hire? It happens all the time and smart businessmen admit their mistake, handle it, take responsibility and move on.  Like every other unfortunate situation, this too will pass and come next fall with new, fresh leadership, everyone will long forget Coach Dedman.  Let's worry about the MLB pennant races for our favorite teams and move on D3 baseball fans!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 30, 2009, 10:54:56 PM
This is not a very good conversation here, folks, from a Terms of Service perspective. Lots of posts heading into gray areas. Let's try to keep to established facts and not innuendos.

Thanks.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonBigRed on July 01, 2009, 08:56:35 AM
This sort of juvenile drive-by attack does a disservice to the university, the players and the coach.

I believe it was obvious that Coach Dedman could not have been more passionate about Denison, about baseball, and about his players.

At age 24 or 25 he stepped up to take on a lot of responsibility, coaching players he had played with, and he'll learn from the experience. It would have been easier for him, of course, if he'd had someone to mentor him, but it was a situation that didn't allow for that. Dedman filled in with hard work and character at a time when the program was desperate for both. He was recruiting well after some fallow years (I hope those good freshmen will give us time to find a new coach and will still come to Denison), raising money for a new stadium, all those parts of the job that are out of view even to the players.

The next coach will probably be more experienced, but can't love Denison and its players any more.

I've talked with players, parents and Denison coaches who understand this, who appreciate his effort, and who wish him successs.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on July 01, 2009, 10:01:16 AM
Quote from: SCOTSman on June 30, 2009, 04:12:28 PM
hopefully the Denison situation pans out as they have proven to be an above average team over the past few seasons
I think this is about the best thing that can be said at this point.  Denison has been a team on the rise in the NCAC and last season seemed to take a step back.  But with a young nucleus coming back, they very well could be back challenging for the NCAC next season if they can resolve this mess without letting things spiral out of control.

And, can we please stop with the whole he said she said things?  Really, what does this sort of thing accomplish?  From what I've been reading, who's to say who is right here?  You have the Dedman supporters blaming the players, parents and the universtity.  And you have the Dedman detractors blaming the coach.  Is this really helping the situation with all of this mud slinging???
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonBigRed on July 01, 2009, 11:11:08 AM
Well said, ScotsFan!

The team was almost entirely freshmen and sophomores last season. Six players made all-conference, including two freshmen and a sophomore. And they beat the defending national champion twice. The year before, Dedman's first year, they were much improved and missed the regional by just one game.

Next year Denison may be better, and in a couple of years...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: SCOTSman on July 04, 2009, 02:35:41 PM
I would have Denison ranked right behind Wooster in the NCAC for the 2010 season actually, and as I said before I would expect a 1 or 2 ranking for the Scots preseason.  I also really liked what I saw from the entire NCAC this year as I felt it was the strongest the conference has been in the past 4 or 5 years.  Denison defeating Trinity twice early in the year, Kenyon having a good season, the tight race for playoff spots in the West division with OWU and Wabash, and of course Woo being the National Runners up!  Hopefully this will continue...  Also, word is Wooster has some strong talent coming in via transfers and recruits.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: seinfeld on July 12, 2009, 12:20:38 AM
Jonathan Sanchez, who threw a no-hitter for the Giants Friday night, played for Ohio Dominican from 2001-04. He was a 27th round pick. He pitched against Wooster as a freshman in 2001, going eight innings to get the win.

http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/boxes/2001/ohiodominican.php

I wonder if any other NCAC teams faced him during this time period.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: SCOTSman on July 18, 2009, 10:32:10 AM
Alex Hernberger, a four year starter for Allegheny at catcher, had his contract bought out by the Arizona Diamondbacks within the past three days.  Hernberger had spent a week playing for an independent team in the San Antonio area and when the catcher of the short season A affiliate for the D Backs had a horrible first month he was released and Hernberger was brought in.  Congratulations to Alex and best of luck!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Buckley on July 30, 2009, 12:03:14 AM
any news to the finalists at Denison.  I've heard Tom Flynn (old wabash coach), Mike Deegan (marietta) any others?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: SCOTSman on August 06, 2009, 11:51:25 AM
Not really 100% positive on how the Denison situation is panning out, but I do know that the players love coach Mike Deegan down at marietta and what he does for the program.  He surely would be a nice edition to the Denison program
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on August 12, 2009, 06:02:29 PM
Denison hired Mike Clark from Emory.  He played at Cortland St. and has been an asst at Emory for 6 years so he's definitely been around quality programs.

Denison hires Clark (http://www.denison.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/ba_mike_clark_announcement.html)


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: SCOTSman on August 16, 2009, 03:39:36 PM
Emory and Cortland are obviously two elite programs in College baseball... If Clark is truly cut from the same cloth then he should have an excellent oppurtunity at taking the talent at Denison to the next level.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on August 17, 2009, 03:24:22 PM
I agree SCOTSman.  I can't think of a better place for Denison's coach to come from than Emory.  Outstanding academics and obviously great baseball.  Seeing what it takes to win in that environment should only help as he takes over his own program that shares the academic constraints he's accustomed to.  I really like Clark's resume and am happy Denison landed him. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: SCOTSman on August 18, 2009, 05:03:33 PM
Great observation Doctor... Clark even points out in the article posted on D3 that he recognizes alot of similarities between the two programs, especially the academic integrity of each institution.  Just realized from the article that not only has he had experience with two great D3 organizations, but also coached in the Cape Cod league!  Amazing resume he's bringing to the table. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on August 31, 2009, 03:13:00 PM
Wooster has brought in a ton of recruits this fall including 3 D1 transfers. 3 kids from Greensboro and 1 from Princeton. All 3 are said to be definite contributors for next season. ..... 2 outfielders and a 2nd baseman. Also, a big lefty from Dublin has been throwing well. Wooster could  be ranked #1 in pre-season polls. 6 position players are returning and the entire pitching staff except for Mr. Nails, Mark Miller. McDowell and a healthy Matt Barnes give the Scots a chance to win every time they throw. Can't wait for the Spring trip to Fla! UNFINISHED BUSINESS! Go Scots!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on August 31, 2009, 03:32:18 PM
Sounds like Wooster could be in Appleton, WI next May again.

They had a great team last year that could really play and hit the ball well..

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on September 01, 2009, 09:41:53 PM
Just because these guys came from a D1 program doesn't mean they can play the game. In my time, we played Akron, Kent, BG, Cleveland State, and other D1 programs that we beat regularly.
I hope they turn out to be "gamers" but, there is a reason they left their program. Saying you played D1 doesn't mean a thing.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on January 20, 2010, 08:26:20 PM
Congrats to Matt Groezinger and Justin McDowell on pre season All American honors.

The Scots have a lot returning but, have a lot to replace. Table setter and team leader Sean Karpen is gone and pitchers Mark Miller and Anthony Trapuzzano,who logged a lot of innings and wins, will be hard to replace.

The return of Matt Barnes should help if he is healthy. He sat out last year due to arm problems.

Woo's 2010 schedule is OK with 2 games against Carthage, Kean, Marietta,  and Heidelberg, all nationally ranked teams.  No DI or DII teams on the schedule this year.

Good luck to coach P and the Scots on the 2010  season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 25, 2010, 01:09:44 AM
Looks like the former Denison skipper is doing OK these days...

Dedman lands at Ole Miss (http://buckeyestatebaseball.com/2010/01/25/former-denison-coach-lands-division-i-job/)

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: seinfeld on January 25, 2010, 03:04:11 PM
Quote from: old scot on January 20, 2010, 08:26:20 PM
Congrats to Matt Groezinger and Justin McDowell on pre season All American honors.

The Scots have a lot returning but, have a lot to replace. Table setter and team leader Sean Karpen is gone and pitchers Mark Miller and Anthony Trapuzzano,who logged a lot of innings and wins, will be hard to replace.

The return of Matt Barnes should help if he is healthy. He sat out last year due to arm problems.

Woo's 2010 schedule is OK with 2 games against Carthage, Kean, Marietta,  and Heidelberg, all nationally ranked teams.  No DI or DII teams on the schedule this year.

Good luck to coach P and the Scots on the 2010  season.

Heard Barnes' status is up in the air because of academics. Is still listed on the roster, but that may be old.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on January 27, 2010, 02:42:39 PM
Quote from: seinfeld on January 25, 2010, 03:04:11 PM
Quote from: old scot on January 20, 2010, 08:26:20 PM
Congrats to Matt Groezinger and Justin McDowell on pre season All American honors.

The Scots have a lot returning but, have a lot to replace. Table setter and team leader Sean Karpen is gone and pitchers Mark Miller and Anthony Trapuzzano,who logged a lot of innings and wins, will be hard to replace.

The return of Matt Barnes should help if he is healthy. He sat out last year due to arm problems.

Woo's 2010 schedule is OK with 2 games against Carthage, Kean, Marietta,  and Heidelberg, all nationally ranked teams.  No DI or DII teams on the schedule this year.

Good luck to coach P and the Scots on the 2010  season.

Heard Barnes' status is up in the air because of academics. Is still listed on the roster, but that may be old.

Well, the pre-season top 25 must not have gotten wind of the Barnes situation.  Wooster checks in behind the defending national champion St. Thomas Tommies at #2 in the country!  UST received 17 first place votes to just 6 for the Scots but only recieved 4 more points total than Wooster.  OWU was the only other NCAC team to get any love as they recieved one lonely vote to check in at the bottom of the ORV's.

Other Mid-east regional representatives in the poll included Heide (10), Marietta (14), Adrian (15) and RHIT (21).  Ott was also among the ORV's along with W&J.

I have to say, I wasn't expecting such a lofty ranking and quite frankly, I'm not all that thrilled about it either.  Wooster always seems to struggle to meet the lofty expectations that coincide with such a lofty ranking in the pre-season poll.  If Barnes is indeed ineligible, that will be a huge loss considering the fact that Miller and Trap were lost to graduation.  I know that Wooster overcame losing Barnes to injury last season, but it's a bit easier to overcome a loss like Barnes when you have guys like Miller and Trap to cushion the blow a bit.  This year, the Scots would basically have to turn to predominantly young and relatively unproven arms outside of McDowell.

I'd sure feel more comfortable about this #2 preseason ranking knowing that Barnes and McDowell anchor the staff as opposed to just McDowell...  :-\
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWU_Dad on January 27, 2010, 04:15:36 PM
Hello Wooster Booster!

I'm an OWU fan (duh!) new to the board. The season is finally here and I'm excited to be talking baseball.

A high school teammate of my sons is a freshman P at Wooster this spring. I'm not sure where he  currently stands in the pecking order, but hope to follow his progress here.

Will you be in FL with the team in March?

I look forward to reading yours and other posts on this board about Wooster and the rest of the NCAC this season. 



Mike
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 27, 2010, 05:06:44 PM
Welcome OWU!  +k

Make sure when OWU plays OAC schools you stop by the OAC board and chat with us.  Sometimes we get lonely over there!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on January 27, 2010, 05:59:09 PM
Welcome to the board OWU!  Always nice to have some representation from other NCAC schools!  We've had a couple of Wabash contributors so that should be helpful to you as they are in OWU's division of the NCAC. 

I haven't really done too much research, but I'm guessing the West is going to be the stronger of the 2 divisions once again?

Also, speaking of divisions.  Has anyone heard if Earlham's departure from the NCAC will help do away with these god awful divisions?  One can only hope I guess... :-\

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on January 27, 2010, 06:08:33 PM
Hopefully the academic ineligibility rumor about Barnes is false, they could sure use his arm.
Maybe Matt Degrand can step up and perform all season like he did in last years CWS.
There seems to be plenty of opportunity for underclassmen and newcomers on the mound.

As far as the Scots pre-season ranking, forget about it. Coach P won't let them get too full of themselves. He knows they have to earn it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWU_Dad on January 27, 2010, 06:33:39 PM
Looks like the Fighting Scots are well represented on the board! 

I know very little about the league as a whole, but did have an opportunity to see a few games last year. I know both teams in the league championship series were from the east, so who knows how it will play out.

Dr. Acula, I have ventured over to the OAC threads as well.  I plan to follow the seasons of both Marietta and Otterbein, as my son and I had a chance to spend time with Coach Brewer and Coach Powell and I was very impressed with both of those gentlemen.

Mike
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: seinfeld on January 28, 2010, 09:38:31 AM
I wanted to follow up on my comment on Barnes. He was very much on the fence -- and still is -- but for now he is eligible to play this year. But there is no margin for error when it comes to this area. While Wooster certainly has other arms, you don't want to lose a guy who is first-team all-conference material.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on January 28, 2010, 10:07:19 AM
Thanks for the updates Seinfeld.  I hope that Barnes gets the message and gets his grades in order!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on January 28, 2010, 12:52:25 PM
Wooster will be facing some pretty stiff competition down in Florida.

#8 Carthage (2)
#3 Kean (2)
Mount St. Joes 11 votes
Ohio Wesleyan 1 vote

They also play ranked teams #14 Marrietta and #10 Heidelberg during the regular season in addition to vote getter PS Behrend (2).

I doubt I'll catch any games this year.  They won't be playing anyone near Columbus.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on January 28, 2010, 01:27:57 PM
Wooster has posted their 2010 Season Outlook (http://www.wooster.edu/Athletics/Spring-Sports/Baseball/Season-Outlook).

Sounds like Wooster is highly motivated to get back to Appleton and finish the job this year!  And with 10 seniors on the roster, leadership should not be an issue.

Furthermore, I read somewhere where Pettorini was describing his team last season.  He stated that they weren't his most talented team, but they were by far his best TEAM he had ever coached.  I'm hoping that, with 7 of 9 position players returning, this can be an even better TEAM by finishing what they couldn't finish last season!  8-)

BTW, I noticed on Wooster's schedule that they are playing the NCAC Tournament in Chilocothe this year.  Anyone know the reason for this?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on January 28, 2010, 01:32:09 PM
Quote from: OWU_Dad on January 27, 2010, 06:33:39 PM
Looks like the Fighting Scots are well represented on the board! 


That they are Mike.  If you follow other sports, you'll see that the Fighting Scots are also well represented in the basketball forums as well, while the football forum has somewhat of a Wabash flavor to it.  :P
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Chris Webb on February 01, 2010, 10:00:02 PM
Here is a link to our NCAC preview coverage

http://buckeyestatebaseball.com/2010/02/01/ncac-preview/
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 02, 2010, 11:50:07 AM
Quote from: Chris Webb on February 01, 2010, 10:00:02 PM
Here is a link to our NCAC preview coverage

http://buckeyestatebaseball.com/2010/02/01/ncac-preview/

Nice preview.  It will be nice to have added coverage of DIII baseball here in the Buckeye state.

But why no mention of what could be one of the Scots' aces in jr. Matt Barnes in your preview?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Chris Webb on February 02, 2010, 12:39:11 PM
We had a contributing writer in Ben Bradley who covers Wittenberg help out in doing the NCAC previews. So I can't fully explain his reasoning, just offer opinions on that.

Perhaps the "back and forth" of will he play or won't he, played a role. Now for us to be credible it is something we need to look much in-depth into and I apologize for that.

It could have also been an honest oversight as Barnes would not have pilled up any stats last season, and an out of sight out of mind situation occured.

I do apologize for the oversight and obviously Barnes is with the Scots and will play a big role.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 02, 2010, 07:28:36 PM
No worries Chris!  Like I said, one oversight won't change my opinion of what you guys are doing.  Any extra coverage of DIII athletics more than makes up for any oversight.  :) 

I'm sure that Barnes' questionable eligibility or the fact that he missed the entire season last year may have had something to do with his omission from the preview. 

I'll look forward to keeping up with your reports in the BSB all season! And thanks for the response!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Chris Webb on February 07, 2010, 05:57:27 PM
Hope all of you Scots fans enjoy this latest piece...

Was able to catch up with Justin McDowell and Matt Groezinger in a "Turning Town" feature
http://buckeyestatebaseball.com/2010/02/07/turningtwo-wooster/
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on February 07, 2010, 06:44:26 PM
Thanks Chris.

I really enjoyed reading that.

Sounds like Barnes may be going to be eligible.   ???
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 08, 2010, 09:42:40 AM
Thanks again Chris.  Good work on a nice Q&A!  :)

My favorite part of the Q&A was McDowell's answer about he and Barney taking over as possibly the best 1-2 combo in the nation for starters from he and Miller a season ago.  And McDowell was quick to add Matt DeGrand to the mix as possibly the best 1-2-3 combo in the country! 

I just think this team has the potential to be scary good!  8-)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on February 19, 2010, 12:10:59 PM
Hey Scot,

Just looked over Wooster Season Preview, and the Scots look to have another great squad in 2010!!

With Matt Groezinger,Stu Beath, Matthew Johnson, Luke Sutton, on offense and Justin McDowell, Matt DeGrand and Matt Barnes on the mound, Wooster looks to have another monster season!!

Good Luck this year and hope to see the Scots back in WI to take the Walnut and Bronze, (of course, only if the ECSU Warriors are not there ;) )
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 19, 2010, 12:36:24 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on February 19, 2010, 12:10:59 PM
Hey Scot,

Just looked over Wooster Season Preview, and the Scots look to have another great squad in 2010!!

With Matt Groezinger,Stu Beath, Matthew Johnson, Luke Sutton, on offense and Justin McDowell, Matt DeGrand and Matt Barnes on the mound, Wooster looks to have another monster season!!

Good Luck this year and hope to see the Scots back in WI to take the Walnut and Bronze, (of course, only if the ECSU Warriors are not there ;) )

Yeah, as you can tell, I'm pretty excited about the prospects of this season.  If Wooster's horses in their pitching staff can stay healthy, and can continue to perform like they have, I really like this team's chances.  But that's the case with a lot of teams I'm sure.

I went and looked up ECSU's preview and they seem to be pretty stacked as well.  Twenty returning letterwinners and 6 of their top 8 arms in the pitching staff returning and a pre-season #3 ranking right behind Wooster!  I wouldn't be surprised to see ECSU back in Appleton this year as well.  Especially seeing as how they were only a game from getting there last year.  Of course, you guys already have 4 of those pretty Walnut and Bronze trophies so I'm sure you wouldn't mind letting the Scots have one this year!   ;)   ;D
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on February 19, 2010, 01:23:31 PM
It would be cool to have #5 for Coach H and the boys, but I think it may be Wooster's year in 2010, they certainly have a great shot and the team to bring it home.

Always like to see some new names on the D-III CWS list of champs!!!

Will be going down to Phoenix in March to watch the boys play 4 games, Concordia, JHU, MIT, and Williams. Should be fun to see how they start!  Last year ECSU had a great start, but could not get by Coach Decker's Trinity Bantams.  :-[

ECSU has to get by a lot of fine teams in NE, (U Southern Maine, Keene, Wheaton, Trinity, WNEC, Babson etc etc).

Never the less, I am REALLY looking forward to another exciting D-III baseball season!!

Again, Best of Luck to the Scots, knock on wood , re the injuries, and hope they can punch their ticket to Grand Chute again.   ;D
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 19, 2010, 02:34:34 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on February 19, 2010, 01:23:31 PM
Never the less, I a REALLY looking forward to another exciting D-III baseball season!!

Again, Best of Luck to the Scots, knock on wood , re the injuries, and hope they can punch their ticket to Grand Chute again.   ;D

No kidding.  Baseball means spring and spring means warm weather...  At least warmer weather here in NE Ohio.  :P

Thanks for the well wishes.  Good luck to the Warriors as well this season!

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on February 24, 2010, 11:26:11 PM
For what it's worth.  Pre-season coaches poll is out.


http://www.northcoast.org/ba/ba.html
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 25, 2010, 12:32:56 AM
Does Bash have a lot back?  Looks like the coaches are pretty high on the LG.  I thought the poll shook out pretty much as expected.  Anyone surprised by anything?  I guess I was surprised by Bash, but only because I don't keep up with them in detail, not because I disagree.  Woo and OWU obvious top two, close call between Kenyon and Denison, Earlham and Hiram at the bottom...seems about right to me! 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 25, 2010, 12:35:51 AM
Also, I called OAC commissioner Tim Gleason a few weeks ago to ask why the OAC does coaches polls in almost every sport, but not baseball.  He said he didn't know, but it was a good question and he would bring it up at the next meeting.  Nothing like causing some waves! 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 25, 2010, 10:03:30 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on February 25, 2010, 12:32:56 AM
Does Bash have a lot back?  Looks like the coaches are pretty high on the LG.  I thought the poll shook out pretty much as expected.  Anyone surprised by anything?  I guess I was surprised by Bash, but only because I don't keep up with them in detail, not because I disagree.  Woo and OWU obvious top two, close call between Kenyon and Denison, Earlham and Hiram at the bottom...seems about right to me! 

Nothing real surprising here.  Wooster is no surprise being a unanimous #1.  I'm kind of surprised they recieved all 10 votes though.  Usually you don't see coaches voting for themselves.   And I agree that OWU is clearly the 2nd best team in the conference.  As for surprises, I agree with being mildly surprised to see Wabash in there at #3, but I too don't really know a whole lot about what all the Lil Giants have returning so, in reality, it may not be much of a surprise at all.  Personally, I think Denison has the potential to be the dark horse this year.  They have a TON coming back.  It's just a matter of whether or not they can get past all of the coaching drama that has been going on down in Granville last off-season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 25, 2010, 04:10:36 PM
Hopefully Denison has put that coaching stuff to bed because that can be a really nice program if they find some consistency at the top.

As always, it's going to be very interesting in the NCAC West.  That half of the league is a battle every weekend.  Anyone hear any rumors about what will happen when Earlham leaves?  Add another school?  Scrap the divisions?  It seems like a lot of you guys would like to see that happen for competitive purposes, but isn't the geography the main issue there?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 25, 2010, 05:38:28 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on February 25, 2010, 04:10:36 PM
Anyone hear any rumors about what will happen when Earlham leaves?  Add another school?  Scrap the divisions?  It seems like a lot of you guys would like to see that happen for competitive purposes, but isn't the geography the main issue there?

No one is being added immediately that I've heard of.  Hopefully, that means that we can at least get a one year reprieve from those damn divisions!  :P

As for who will replace the EC, it's basically just rumors that I've heard so far.  Depauw seems to be the strongest rumor I've heard FWIW.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on February 25, 2010, 07:24:56 PM
Here's what Wabash has to say about themselves and their pre-season #3 tab by the coaches: http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=7802

Basically they have all but 2 starters back from last year's team that made the NCAC tourney and took Wooster to 3 games in the conference playoffs.  Problem is the 2 starters lost to graduation were two of the most prolific players in Wabash history - Matt Dodaro and Jake Thomas.

Here's the inside scoop I'm getting.  Last year's freshman class was special.  If they develop, then Wabash Baseball will continue its rise in respect and wins.  Been there before.. its not a guarantee players get better each year in D3 where other things sometimes take priority over working towards baseball greatness.  So we'll have to see.  But, the names I'm watching this spring are all sophs: Lares (leadoff hitter), Holm (1st/DH - 6'5 260 - massive power) and Swart (starting pitcher).  These three played a lot last year and were playing big roles by the end of the season.  It should be fun to see how it all plays out.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on February 25, 2010, 07:57:31 PM
Earlham leaving the NCAC has sparked a lot of discussion on the football board the past couple of months.  As Scots Fan mentioned - nobody appears to be immediately stepping in and the possible suitors are all educated guesses as far as anyone on these boards are concerned.  FWIW John Carroll and Washington and Jefferson have also been mentioned as replacements.

From a Wabash standpoint, DePauw would make the most sense to be added.  Could you imagine the strength of the western division in baseball then? WC/DPU, Den/OWU & Witt.  Would be carnage.  However, adding W&J to the east would maybe balance power a little better?

For now I'm with everyone else on this board however and would scrap the east/west divisions and play everybody in conference 3 games each without an Earlham.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 25, 2010, 09:19:53 PM
DePauw would work well because it would be a simple one-for-one switch and they could chug along with the 2 divisions.

W&J is intriguing.  That would bolster the east and also be a nice addition for football.  And from W&J's standpoint, the NCAC is obviously an upgrade.  If they have any plans of making tournament/playoff runs (especially in football) they may need to strongly consider it.

From an NCAC standpoint JCU would be a nice fit.  They're competitive in almost every sport, but they wouldn't come in and dominate any of them.  Not sure why they'd want to leave the OAC though. 

Then again, maybe if the divisions take a hiatus after Earlham leaves the baseball coaches/AD's may decide they like playing everyone.  Who knows.  Interesting to debate on the baseball board when it's 20 degrees out though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWU_Dad on February 26, 2010, 03:22:51 PM
Hello Bash,

As of today have you heard the status of WC's opener at AIA on Sunday?

While driving through Xenia today I stopped by AIA park and was disappointed to see it was still covered in snow. I thought they would have made an effort to clear the field, but that certainly is not the case?

If the game goes on as scheduled, I plan on making the trip to Xenia...I'm desperate for baseball! :)

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Gramps on February 26, 2010, 06:26:44 PM
Gramps here, Florida is less than a week away for us.  I feel the same as you about the start of the season.  As I look out the window at the snow, I'm thinking of the warm breezes of Florida and the sound of the crack of the bat and the roar of the crowds, and the smell of peanuts, and the comraderie of the other fans. The Berg's first game is next weds vs NC Wesleyan.  All plans are made and all information digested. All that's needed is for the umps to bellow:

PLAY-Y-Y-Y-Y   BALL-L-L-L-L-L
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on February 27, 2010, 11:30:17 AM
OWU Dad - games in Xenia were cancelled.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on February 27, 2010, 11:38:36 AM
Gramps -
I love your enthusiasm!

I'm with you with the sights and smells of the game that still turn me on even as I am quickly approaching middle age (yikes).  Add to the list the smell of pine tar, sunflower seeds and freshly cut grass.  Add the sounds of dugout chatter, leather popping and umpire yelling "Steeeeeerike" on the first pitch of a ballgame as he points a finger at the visitor dugout.  All of these make my heart warm even when I look outside at the snow on the ground.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 27, 2010, 01:53:46 PM
Kenyon's DH in Chillicothe was scratched too.  Apparently people aren't huge fans of running through snow drifts while tracking down a fly ball. 

A couple OAC squads open tomorrow down south (Cap, JCU).  I think Hiram opens as well, but don't quote me on that.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on February 28, 2010, 09:40:40 PM
Wooster's schedule includes a line for the NCAC Tournament (at Chillicothe, OH, April 29 - May 1).  Is there a new format this year, replacing the two-weekend, four-team, best-of-three series format?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DelawareCityMan on March 04, 2010, 11:29:19 AM
Play Ball ALL!!!!  It's Spring Time in OHIO and the Temps are achieving a balmby 43 degrees....Hey, LET'S PLAY TWO!!!!!!

I believe that the NCAC Tournament IS changing it's format for this season and it's REALLY going to be interesting to see the shake-up in the league's Regular Season for next year.  I understand that teams will be playing all other 8 members and will do it playing a DH on Sat versus one team and another DH on Sun versus a different team.  I bet travel and schedule make up will be a VERY interesting discussion when the time comes....
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 04, 2010, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: DelawareCityMan on March 04, 2010, 11:29:19 AM
Play Ball ALL!!!!  It's Spring Time in OHIO and the Temps are achieving a balmby 43 degrees....Hey, LET'S PLAY TWO!!!!!!

I believe that the NCAC Tournament IS changing it's format for this season and it's REALLY going to be interesting to see the shake-up in the league's Regular Season for next year.  I understand that teams will be playing all other 8 members and will do it playing a DH on Sat versus one team and another DH on Sun versus a different team.  I bet travel and schedule make up will be a VERY interesting discussion when the time comes....

Who does the NCAC have running the show?  How hard is it to look at the OAC as a model to go by next year?  Instead, it seems like the NCAC has to make things as difficult as possible?!   ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 04, 2010, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 04, 2010, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: DelawareCityMan on March 04, 2010, 11:29:19 AM
Play Ball ALL!!!!  It's Spring Time in OHIO and the Temps are achieving a balmby 43 degrees....Hey, LET'S PLAY TWO!!!!!!

I believe that the NCAC Tournament IS changing it's format for this season and it's REALLY going to be interesting to see the shake-up in the league's Regular Season for next year.  I understand that teams will be playing all other 8 members and will do it playing a DH on Sat versus one team and another DH on Sun versus a different team.  I bet travel and schedule make up will be a VERY interesting discussion when the time comes....

Who does the NCAC have running the show?  How hard is it to look at the OAC as a model to go by next year?  Instead, it seems like the NCAC has to make things as difficult as possible?!   ::)

It doesn't seem like it should be that hard does it, ScotsFan?  The OAC gets in DH against every team in the conference.  They play every Saturday and then Tue or Wed conference DH to get them all in.  I would think the NCAC would do something similar.  I sure hope they don't only play conference DH on Saturdays because gawd forbid some has a lights out 1-2 because they'll throw every conference game!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 07, 2010, 02:42:32 PM
Wooster has officially kicked off their season today down at LaGrange.   8-)

Justin McDowell got the start for Wooster and got off ot an uncharacteristically bad start as he allowed 3 runs in the bottom of the first.  However, Wooster didn't appear to forget their bats has they have scored 9 runs through 3 innings!   :)  McDowell has also appeared to have settled into the game as he has not allowed a run since the 1st.

LaGrange has Live Stats (http://home.lagrange.edu/athletics/stats/Baseball/live/xlive.htm) available for this game if anyone is interested.

Apparently, McDowell has settled in nicely as he has only allowed on hit since the 1st inning for LaGrange!  It's now 14-3 in the top of the 5th!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 07, 2010, 05:06:34 PM
And Wooster has a successful debut to the 2010 season!  Final from LaGrange:

Wooster - 18
LaGrange - 5

After a shaky 1st inning, McDowell was pullable to go 5 innings and only allowed one hit after the 1st inning!

The bullpen did pretty good allowing 2 runs over the last 2 innings, but only one was earned.

Woo's offense seems to be off and running as they pounded out 21 hits en route to their 18 runs.  Matthew Johnson did what your leadoff man is supposed to do by getting on base all 4 plate appearances with 3 hits.  Included in those 3 hits were 2 triples!  And he scored 4 runs to boot!

The only downer of the game was that Wooster committed 4 errors.  But, I'm willing to chalk that up to being the first game of the season.  I'd imagine that this was the first live action this team has seen outside of a gym in quite some time so it's pretty understandable to see some rust in the gloves for the first few games.

Now that Wooster got a little BP under their belts, next up is a bit stiffer competition as they face #9 Carthage tomorrow at 6 pm.  I'm guessing Matt Barnes should get the start for Wooster tomorrow?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 07, 2010, 05:52:45 PM
ScotsFan,

Errors was the stat that caught my eye two.  I saw two of the 4 were made by backup 3rd baseman Phil Pie.

Nice start though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2010, 01:12:19 AM
Very impressive start for the Scots.  Not a bad debut from Van Horn either (I think he was 3 for 5).  Big test coming up.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 08, 2010, 11:09:51 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2010, 01:12:19 AM
Very impressive start for the Scots.  Not a bad debut from Van Horn either (I think he was 3 for 5).  Big test coming up.

He also threw a scoreless inning of relief.  8-)

I read in a season preview article in the Wooster paper last week that Van Horn's coach at Princeton said he was the most talented player he had ever recruited at Princeton.  Sounds like he could be quite the nice find for Pettorini!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2010, 12:08:28 PM
Why did he leave Princeton? 

p.s. Kenyon lost 5-0 to Berg this morning.  I haven't seen anything on the Witt/Albion game yet (it was also this morning). 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 08, 2010, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2010, 12:08:28 PM
Why did he leave Princeton? 


Haven't heard why he left.  It just said in that preview article that his father is a COW alum so his being a COW legacy may have something to do with him ending up in Wooster?  I don't know for sure though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 08, 2010, 12:51:48 PM
Anyone have a clue as to when the Wooster/Carthage game will start?  Wooster's website says it is a 6 pm start time.  But when I looked at Carthage's website to see if they had live stats available, they have the start time at 2 pm?  :-\
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2010, 12:55:27 PM
The Snowbird Classic site says it starts at 2pm also.  Take that for what you will.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2010, 12:59:16 PM
Tough luck for OWU....take a 6-5 lead over Musky in the top of the 9th, but a slow grounder with the bases loaded plates the tying run and a wild pitch scores the winning run for the Fish in the bottom half.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 08, 2010, 01:09:19 PM
Thanks drac!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2010, 04:04:16 PM
Anyone figure out if the game actually started at 2pm?  I haven't been able to get the live stats to work so I'm hoping it's because the game hasn't started yet.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 08, 2010, 05:59:01 PM
The wooster/carthage game was played at 2 pm and has just gone final.

Wooster 14
Carthage 10
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 08, 2010, 06:02:28 PM
Thanks for the score HeyScots. 

I'm interested to see what the box score tells us.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2010, 06:08:36 PM
Quote from: HeyScots on March 08, 2010, 05:59:01 PM
The wooster/carthage game was played at 2 pm and has just gone final.

Wooster 14
Carthage 10

That's what I was afraid of.  D*mn you Carthage live stats!

Good win though.  Sorry, didn't mean to rain on the parade with my complaining!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 08, 2010, 06:15:42 PM
No problem...i was frustrated too.  I knew some parents at the game and got the end result update.  Looks like both teams brought their bats but looking forward to see what the box score says.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 08, 2010, 06:22:30 PM
Nice win for the Scots.  I wasn't really expecting a slug fest today against Carthage.  I'm really surpirsed at seeing this much offense right out of the gate.  Especially putting up 14 more runs against a quality opponent like Carthage.  That's now 32 runs in Wooster's opening 2 games!  :o 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2010, 09:11:58 PM
From the Carthage recap (http://athletics.carthage.edu/news/2010/3/8/Baseball_0308104802.aspx?path=baseball):

"Carthage pitchers hit seven Wooster batters and walked six, while the Red Men defense committed six errors."

Yikes.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 09, 2010, 09:52:46 AM
New rankings:

1     St. Thomas (21)     2-0     621
2    Wooster (4)    2-0    599
3    Eastern Connecticut    2-0    546
4    Kean    4-1    521
5    Heidelberg    5-0    487
6    Trinity (Conn.)    0-0    480
7    Salisbury    8-1    468
8    Chapman    11-3    444
9    RPI    3-0    358
10    Carthage    2-2    341
11    UW-Stevens Point    0-0    321
12    Pomona-Pitzer    10-4    311
13    Southern Maine    2-0    271
14    Pacific Lutheran    11-2    253
15    Marietta    2-2    218
16    Rose-Hulman    5-1    187
17    Keystone    3-1    183
18    Adrian    2-2    181
19    Cortland State    5-2    149
20    Wheaton (Mass.)    0-0    144
21    Mississippi College    12-1    143
22    Birmingham-Southern    12-1    109
23    Shenandoah    8-3    102
24    Augustana    7-0    99
25    St. Scholastica    2-2    85

There are a couple changes, but nothing big.  Also the wooster/Mount St. Jospeh game is being played at 10 am today not at 430 pm as it says on the wooster schedule
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 09, 2010, 10:03:01 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2010, 06:08:36 PM


That's what I was afraid of.  D*mn you Carthage live stats!

Good win though.  Sorry, didn't mean to rain on the parade with my complaining!

Carthage men and womens are both still in the Hoops tourney(hosted last weekend)  so their SID has been tied up and I don't think he is traveling with the baseball team yet. Livestats should be up the rest of the season... not that it will help you unless they meet again in Appleton (here's hoping).
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 09, 2010, 10:59:20 AM
Still no box score from yesterday's game?  It's nice to see that Carthage was quite generous to the Scots allowing 13 free passes and 6 extra outs in the game.   :P  Just wondering if Wooster returned the favor at all or if our pitching really got knocked around that hard?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 09, 2010, 11:11:08 AM
Quick update of the Wooster/Mount St. Joseph game:

Mount St. Joseph 1
Wooster 1

Bot 5

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 09, 2010, 11:14:25 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 09, 2010, 10:59:20 AM
Still no box score from yesterday's game?  It's nice to see that Carthage was quite generous to the Scots allowing 13 free passes and 6 extra outs in the game.   :P  Just wondering if Wooster returned the favor at all or if our pitching really got knocked around that hard?

Accordiong to the Carthage coach's interview, Carthage really swung the bats weel and pounded out some hits, so I'd assume that Wooster played solid defense and did not give up much in the way of freebies.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 09, 2010, 11:49:31 AM
Mount St. Joseph 2
Wooster 2

Bot 7
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 09, 2010, 12:49:38 PM
Mount St. Joseph 4
Wooster 4

Bot 9
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 09, 2010, 01:02:41 PM
Mount St. Joseph 4
Wooster 5

Final
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 09, 2010, 01:24:03 PM
Thanks for the updates today HeyScots.

BTW, forgot to officially welcome you to the board!  So welcome to the board!   ;D

And keep the updates coming as well!  :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 09, 2010, 01:43:57 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 09, 2010, 10:03:01 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2010, 06:08:36 PM


That's what I was afraid of.  D*mn you Carthage live stats!

Good win though.  Sorry, didn't mean to rain on the parade with my complaining!

Carthage men and womens are both still in the Hoops tourney(hosted last weekend)  so their SID has been tied up and I don't think he is traveling with the baseball team yet. Livestats should be up the rest of the season... not that it will help you unless they meet again in Appleton (here's hoping).

It's definitely not helping me...I'm a Mount Union fan.  As much as it pains me, it's pretty safe to say they won't be in Appleton.   ;D
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 09, 2010, 02:04:23 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 09, 2010, 01:24:03 PM
Thanks for the updates today HeyScots.

BTW, forgot to officially welcome you to the board!  So welcome to the board!   ;D

And keep the updates coming as well!  :)

Yes!  Welcome to the board alright.  Thanks for the updates. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 09, 2010, 03:08:12 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 09, 2010, 01:43:57 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 09, 2010, 10:03:01 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2010, 06:08:36 PM


That's what I was afraid of.  D*mn you Carthage live stats!

Good win though.  Sorry, didn't mean to rain on the parade with my complaining!

Carthage men and womens are both still in the Hoops tourney(hosted last weekend)  so their SID has been tied up and I don't think he is traveling with the baseball team yet. Livestats should be up the rest of the season... not that it will help you unless they meet again in Appleton (here's hoping).

It's definitely not helping me...I'm a Mount Union fan.  As much as it pains me, it's pretty safe to say they won't be in Appleton.   ;D

You MUC guys are too busy dominating some other sport and spending too much time in Salem, VA!   :P   ;D
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 09, 2010, 07:07:12 PM
Thanks for the welcome!

Box scores for wooter/carthage and wooster/Mount St. Josephs are both up on woosters website.  Walks and hit by pitches definitely lead to a high scoring game against carthage...both teams also seemed to hit the ball well against quality pitching though.  Great performance by Degrand today on the mound (11 SO) and good timely hitting by the scots to pull out the win.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 10, 2010, 04:55:15 PM
Wooster 7
OWU 1

4th
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 10, 2010, 05:19:59 PM
I'm interested to see who started on the hill for both teams today.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 10, 2010, 06:28:46 PM
Wooster 10
OWU 5

Final

This game supposedly wasnt even as close as the score indicates. It was 10-2 going into the 9th so maybe Pettorini put a freshman in to get some experience.  OWU was tabbed to finish second in the NCAC behind Wooster and I know its early but if this is any indication of how the NCAC will turn out this year, Wooster may just run away with it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 10, 2010, 07:05:25 PM
Pretty good start to the season so far for the Scots!  Off to a 4-0 start which includes wins over a ranked opponent and the team picked to win the NCAC West.

Next up for Wooster is an OAC foe in Wilmington before a rematch with 10th ranked Carthage on Friday.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 10, 2010, 07:37:36 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 10, 2010, 07:05:25 PM
Pretty good start to the season so far for the Scots!  Off to a 4-0 start which includes wins over a ranked opponent and the team picked to win the NCAC West.

Next up for Wooster is an OAC foe in Wilmington before a rematch with 10th ranked Carthage on Friday.

This won't be pretty...but at least they can rest all their non-freshmen pitchers for Carthage!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 11, 2010, 05:59:14 PM
Wooster 3
Wilmington 1

4th

Mcdowell is starting today and it looks like barnes might get another crack at carthage tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 11, 2010, 06:53:42 PM
Wooster 6
Wilmington 2

Final
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 11, 2010, 08:05:22 PM
I was going to say after HeyScots' first update that with McDowell on the bump I was guessing the 3 runs put up by Wooster would probably be enough.  And sure enough it was.   8-)  Of course, Wooster had to tack on 3 more runs for good measure.   :P
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 12, 2010, 01:50:53 PM
The wooster/carthage game tonight has been cancelled due to rain.  Not sure if they will be able to make this game up.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 12, 2010, 11:16:38 PM
After the result on the hardwood tonight where the Scots saw their season come to an end in the Sweet 16, I was expecting to come in here and see that Wooster had lost to Carthage to add insult to injury.  I guess Mother Nature decided to be merciful in this instance.   ;)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 14, 2010, 12:20:14 PM
Bash fans got a quick but extensive look at our 2010 team this week after an aggressive 12 game road trip to Alabama, Texas and Oklahoma.  The Little Giants finished this very tough test 4-8.  Competition included a four game start at Birmingham Southern and Adrian - both top 25 teams. Coupled with playing all southern schools (except Adrian) we were a bit overmatched this early in the season but hopefully better tested and prepared.

The key points taken from the box scores: 1. pitching woes (team ERA 10.20) 2. 1B Jon Holm - 6 HR 19 RBI .386 BA.

The first point surprises me and I'm optimistic this will get better as the team heads north.  Last year's staff was clearly a reason they competed so well in conference play and the staff is essentially the same this year.
The second point is no surprise as I predicted earlier a big year from Holm.  Those are POW numbers.

Little Giants get a good test with Franklin this week before a big 4 game set with OWU next weekend.  The bash surprised the Bishops last year by taking 3 of 4 and really setting themselves up well for the conference standings.  They clearly need to right the ship if they plan to repeat a trip to the conference tourney.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 14, 2010, 12:29:08 PM
Proud to announce that construction is planned to restart for the new baseball stadium at Wabash.

We were supposed to have been opening the first game there this week but construction was put on hold after the disastrous economic tumble in late 2008 killed the school's endowment and started a series of cost-cutting measures.  Luckily, this campus upgrade has been deemed a high priority and is going to happen for next season.

Recuiting, recruiting, recruiting.... it's all about recruiting.......
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 14, 2010, 04:19:53 PM
There will be live stats on the kean website for the wooster/kean game tonight at 6 pm
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 14, 2010, 06:11:18 PM
Quote from: HeyScots on March 14, 2010, 04:19:53 PM
There will be live stats on the kean website for the wooster/kean game tonight at 6 pm

Thanks HeyScots.  Here's the link for anyone interested:

Kean Live Stats (http://www.sidearmstats.com/kean/baseball/index.htm)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 14, 2010, 08:10:25 PM
Wooster 4
Kean 1

Final

Great pitching performance by Barnes and Kean also had 5 errors to help out the Scots a little.  Kean is the second top 10 team Wooster has beat already this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 15, 2010, 09:45:00 AM
Wooster will go for the 2 game sweep vs. Kean today.  Looks as though Wooster is going up against Kean's 2 best starters so far this season.

Kean got absolutely pummelled by Carthage in 2 games prior to their games with the Scots.  Carthage scored 26 runs in those 2 games.

The loss for Kean's starter yesterday was his first.  And it looks as though the guy that should start for Kean today (Diaz) is their #1 coming into the seaon.  His only loss of the season was a 2-1 loss in their season opener vs. DeSales.  I'm assuming that Matt DeGrand will get the start for Wooster today.

Should be another good one between these two nationally ranked opponents!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 15, 2010, 10:36:48 AM
Looks like Wooster is off to a great start.  Hopefully Cathage and Kean stay in the rankings, or else those wins won't look as nice at the end of the year.

Regardless, Wooster is obviously one of the top teams in the country once again, and I'm sooooo happpy that they will be playing MAR and HEID once again this season.  It's great to see the top teams in the region square off before the regionals!!!

Good luck to Wooster this year!  Looks like the mideast is going to be a strong region AGAIN, maybe one of the powers will get shipped out this year when May rolls around so we can get 2 of them to the Series :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 15, 2010, 10:50:22 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on March 15, 2010, 10:36:48 AM
Looks like Wooster is off to a great start.  Hopefully Cathage and Kean stay in the rankings, or else those wins won't look as nice at the end of the year.

Regardless, Wooster is obviously one of the top teams in the country once again, and I'm sooooo happpy that they will be playing MAR and HEID once again this season.  It's great to see the top teams in the region square off before the regionals!!!

Good luck to Wooster this year!  Looks like the mideast is going to be a strong region AGAIN, maybe one of the powers will get shipped out this year when May rolls around so we can get 2 of them to the Series :)

I really wish I could see Wooster play.  I've lived in Columbus 3 years now and haven't been able to catch one of their games since I left Wooster.  I'd really like to see them play Heidelberg or MC but theres no way I can pull off a weekday game.  I thought about driving down for the Marietta game but I doubt I would make it by 7:00.  I've been wanting to see a game at Marietta for a while and what better game than to see them take on Wooster. 

My best chance to see them may be at the NCAC tournament in Chillicothe. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 15, 2010, 12:51:35 PM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on March 15, 2010, 10:36:48 AM
Looks like Wooster is off to a great start.  Hopefully Cathage and Kean stay in the rankings, or else those wins won't look as nice at the end of the year.

Regardless, Wooster is obviously one of the top teams in the country once again, and I'm sooooo happpy that they will be playing MAR and HEID once again this season.  It's great to see the top teams in the region square off before the regionals!!!

Good luck to Wooster this year!  Looks like the mideast is going to be a strong region AGAIN, maybe one of the powers will get shipped out this year when May rolls around so we can get 2 of them to the Series :)

I'm guessing that Kean and Carthage will both be in the mix to get to Appleton at season's end.

Also, its refreshing to hear a Marietta fan happy to see Wooster on their schedule.  I know looking at it from a Wooster perspective, I think it only helps to go out and challenge yourself against, not only some of the best competition in the region, but some of the best competition in the country as a whole and that's what you get when you face Marietta and Heide!  Especially given the comparitively weak nature of the NCAC as a whole, Wooster needs challenges like Marietta and Heide thrown in to keep them sharp.

And you are right about the Mideast looking like quite the powerful region!  Two teams in the top 5 and 5 teams in the top 20 as well as 2 others in the receiving votes category!  If the NCAA decides that one of the powers get shipped out, I think they could look at it as a blessing depending on where they got shipped to!  :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 15, 2010, 02:57:58 PM
Countryroad...the regional this year is in Marietta and Im sure there will be great competition there, including a few Marrietta vs. Wooster games so maybe you can make it out for that.

Also the wooster/kean game today at 3 will have live stats on keans website.

http://www.sidearmstats.com/kean/baseball/index.htm
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bufordscot on March 15, 2010, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 15, 2010, 10:50:22 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on March 15, 2010, 10:36:48 AM
Looks like Wooster is off to a great start.  Hopefully Cathage and Kean stay in the rankings, or else those wins won't look as nice at the end of the year.

Regardless, Wooster is obviously one of the top teams in the country once again, and I'm sooooo happpy that they will be playing MAR and HEID once again this season.  It's great to see the top teams in the region square off before the regionals!!!

Good luck to Wooster this year!  Looks like the mideast is going to be a strong region AGAIN, maybe one of the powers will get shipped out this year when May rolls around so we can get 2 of them to the Series :)

I really wish I could see Wooster play.  I've lived in Columbus 3 years now and haven't been able to catch one of their games since I left Wooster.  I'd really like to see them play Heidelberg or MC but theres no way I can pull off a weekday game.  [font=Verdana]I thought about driving down for the Marietta game but I doubt I would make it by 7:00.  [/font] I've been wanting to see a game at Marietta for a while and what better game than to see them take on Wooster. 

My best chance to see them may be at the NCAC tournament in Chillicothe. 

sounds to me like you need to have a mysterious stomach virus that day and make it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 15, 2010, 06:33:05 PM
kean 16
wooster 15

final


Tough loss for the scots but ill tell you what...this showed us something about this team other then how talented they are.  When you get down by 12 runs against the #6 team in the country with their ace on the mound I would be willing to bet that 99% of the teams in the country would have easily given up and would have waited to play another day.  This comeback by Wooster shows the character of this team as well as the leadership.  I know every player in that dugout believed they could come back and thats what they did.  Unfortunately they fell a little short, but what a great performance by wooster and also give credit to kean for a great game as well.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 15, 2010, 10:03:43 PM
Nice start of the season for the Scots.
After reveiwing todays defeat against Kean, the  following was true. After DeGrand got shelled in the second, the Wooster pen could not stop the bleeding. Wahl and Meizner came in to throw gas on the fire.Hopefully, this will not be a sign of things to come.
On the offensive side,  Van Horn seems to be a solid addition at the plate and the mound. Groezinger and Co. seem to pulling their weight.
I'm looking forward to a strong run through the NCAC and The Mid-East region.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 15, 2010, 10:11:01 PM
HeyScots, welcome aboard. I can't  believe the Washington Wildthings didn't give you a shot. That being said, its good to have another ex Ster-Baller to contribute to the board.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 16, 2010, 09:49:31 AM
Good points heyscots.  I think another telling stat from yesterday's game is that opposing teams better beware of giving the Scots extra outs!  After Groezinger's leadoff homer in the 4th, it looked as though that would be Woo's lone run of the inning.  That is until the pitcher dropped a fly ball that would have been the 3rd out.  Wooster then proceeded to score 6 more runs in the inning with that extra out!

I too like the fight we saw from this team yesterday.  Kean is a very good baseball team and for Wooster to nearly pull off an epic comeback against the Cougars' ace no less? 

And oldscot.  The bully is giving us some reason of concern, but I'm not all that worried just yet.  I think a lot of it has to do with guys just settling into their roles coming out of the pen.  And I think a lot of it has to do with the coaching staff trying to figure out just who they can trust to give the ball to if needed.  Clearly, Wahl doesn't appear to have it.  He has made 3 appearances this spring and none of them have gone well.  After allowing one run in one inning of work in the season opener, Wahl got rocked in his 2nd appearance vs. OWU.  He came on in the 9th to promptly give up 4 runs while failing to get out of the inning.  And then, yesterday, he came on in relief of DeGrand and promptly gave up another 4 runs that ended up blowing the game wide open for Kean.  Until he gets things figured out, I'd have a hard time giving him the ball in anything but mop up duty.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 16, 2010, 01:59:57 PM
Wooster 16
Becker 5

Final
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 16, 2010, 06:01:21 PM
Skidmore 1
Wooster 3

Final-13 innings
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 18, 2010, 05:53:56 PM
Wooster won game one of their double header with Kenyon today! 

Final:

Wooster - 13
Kenyon - 7

Justin McDowell had another strong outing going 6 and giving up 2 runs.

Can someone tell me how much longer Landon Wahl is going to keep getting opportunities to get knocked around?  He came on in relief of McDowell in the 7th and proceeded to get hammered to the tune of 5 runs on 6 hits and couldn't even get out of the inning.  Meinzer had to be brought on to record the final out of the game.  Seems like a pretty safe bet that Wahl shouldn't see the field unless the Scots lead is more than 10 runs...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 18, 2010, 06:18:53 PM
Landon must be showing something to the coaches to warrant the innings.  Maybe the coaches feel he's on the cusp of correcting whatever issues he's dealing with.  Or maybe they hoping he can come in and eat up at least a couple innings (which he doesn't seem able to do).
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 18, 2010, 08:43:06 PM
They won game two 25-8. Tyler Fugate started for Wooster and gave up 7 runs, none of which were earned.   :-\
A win is a win.   :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 18, 2010, 11:31:06 PM
There was only one error that warranted all those runs to be unearned.  Not a horrible defensive effort but kenyon did do a good job of getting hits to capitalize on it.  However...it was a great performance by fugate to come back after that inning and get the win, and also for wooster to dish out 25 runs in the second game (38 runs in the doubleheader).  This team can hit 1-9 and it makes them a very dangerous team throughout the rest of the season and into the postseason.  You cant pitch around anybody because the next guy will knock him in.  Great start for the Scots in conference play and keep it going tomorrow!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 19, 2010, 09:22:15 AM
Isn't Kenyon supposed to be the 2nd best team in the NCAC east?  Good lord (no pun intended...  ;)).

Quote from: countyroad on March 18, 2010, 06:18:53 PM
Landon must be showing something to the coaches to warrant the innings.  Maybe the coaches feel he's on the cusp of correcting whatever issues he's dealing with.  Or maybe they hoping he can come in and eat up at least a couple innings (which he doesn't seem able to do).

You may be right, but I'm just having trouble seeing past his 23.62 era heading into yesterday's game.  And the 5 runs in .2 of an inning yesterday won't do anything but make that number go up.  Maybe the coaches want to see him crack 30 on his era? (https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.scout.com%2Fmedia%2Fforums%2Femoticons%2Fnoidea.gif&hash=d0853e7250ffe0f662a746329d301aa06dd4ee9f)

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 19, 2010, 12:49:46 PM
Kenyon shuts out Wooster 3-0.  Tyler Dierke gives up just 4 hits.  What can you say besides baseball is a funny game.  Give up 38 runs and the next day get a shutout. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 19, 2010, 02:28:26 PM
That's weird, and disappointing.  That sure makes game 4 of the series a big one.  Either win the series 3-1 or split 2-2.  I'm sure the guys want to end their trip on a positive note.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 19, 2010, 02:49:33 PM
Wooster returned the favor in game 2 by shutting out kenyon 9-0.  Great pitching performance by Degrand and the bats came alive again.  Wooster ends their spring trip 11-2 and 3-1 in the NCAC.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 19, 2010, 07:25:09 PM
Glad to hear.  Good spring trip for the Scots.  Tough game coming up on Tuesday with Marietta.  I hope the team makes it home safely and everyone gets acclimated back to Ohio weather.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 19, 2010, 09:30:20 PM
Scots take 3 of 4 to close out the southern swing. Any coach would be happy with a .750 winning percentage against a conference foe. I'm a little disappointed. Did they run into a hot pitcher?Or did they take the Lords lightly after pounding them the previous day? Woo seems to have a hard time with Kenyon. Did the Scots lose 3 of 4 last year?

Overall, good start to the season. We will see what the Scots are made of with games against Etta and the Berg. Got to have those.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 20, 2010, 04:38:51 PM
today's conference action -

Wabash 6 OWU 5 (final)
OWU 8 Wabash 4 (4th inn)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 21, 2010, 11:18:24 AM
Ohio Wesleyan and Wabash split the first two games yesterday in one run contests (6-5, 8-7)
2 more scheduled today.

If these are the two top dogs in the West Division then I'd say that Denison has a wide open door to walk through and take command.  OWU stands at 4-7 while Wabash is 5-10 overall.

Needless to say, teams can turn things around quickly in April, but the early indications suggest the West is weak this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 21, 2010, 11:28:51 AM
I went back and looked at OWU's losses this year and came away a little more impressed...
Carthage (split), Heidelberg, Otterbein makes their record more understandable.  As I mentioned, Wabash had a very difficult 12 game spring break trip with multiple losses to Birmingham Southern and Adrian.  So maybe I have spoken too quickly in regards to these West Division teams.  They may be good but not upper tier.  I guess we'll need more games to find out.  I still like Denison though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 21, 2010, 05:49:54 PM
Wabash takes both games today from the Bishops.
6-5 & 8-1.

Little Giants get off to a nice 3-1 record in conference play.  Seems the pitching woes thay had down south have improved.  I am now encouraged.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 23, 2010, 10:03:10 AM
Ahhhh!  Gotta love springtime in Ohio?!  Beautiful weather here all of last week while the Scots are still down in Florida.  And then they come home and does mother nature cooperate?  Of course not...  :-\

Today's game with Marietta has been ppd.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 23, 2010, 11:10:56 AM
I always hated this part of the season.  Cold weather baseball is no fun, at least in the spring.  I'm sure the big leaguers don't mind it in the fall cause that means they're playing in the post season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 23, 2010, 01:16:55 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 23, 2010, 11:10:56 AM
I always hated this part of the season.  Cold weather baseball is no fun, at least in the spring.  I'm sure the big leaguers don't mind it in the fall cause that means they're playing in the post season.

I totally LOVE going up to the Jake on a crisp fall night especially if it's in the post-season.  8-)  Dreary cold games in the spring...  Not so much.  :P  I don't know if it's because you don't mind the cold as much in the fall because you're coming off of a hot summer as opposed to being ready for warmer days in the spring after enduring a long cold winter? 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 23, 2010, 01:23:56 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 23, 2010, 01:16:55 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 23, 2010, 11:10:56 AM
I always hated this part of the season.  Cold weather baseball is no fun, at least in the spring.  I'm sure the big leaguers don't mind it in the fall cause that means they're playing in the post season.

I totally LOVE going up to the Jake on a crisp fall night especially if it's in the post-season.  8-)  Dreary cold games in the spring...  Not so much.  :P  I don't know if it's because you don't mind the cold as much in the fall because you're coming off of a hot summer as opposed to being ready for warmer days in the spring after enduring a long cold winter? 

That's exactly what it is.  :-\

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 23, 2010, 01:28:01 PM
Looks like the game with Marietta has been rescheduled for Thursday @ 3:30.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 23, 2010, 05:55:52 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 23, 2010, 01:28:01 PM
Looks like the game with Marietta has been rescheduled for Thursday @ 3:30.

This kind of throws a bit of a wrench in the rotation for this weekend's NCAC tilt with Allegheny doesn't it? 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 24, 2010, 03:04:17 PM
Can anyone get the live stats of the wooster/capital game?  The wooster website still has their game vs kenyon up
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 24, 2010, 05:08:32 PM
Quote from: HeyScots on March 24, 2010, 03:04:17 PM
Can anyone get the live stats of the wooster/capital game?  The wooster website still has their game vs kenyon up

6-0 Wooster in the 8th.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 25, 2010, 09:29:08 AM
I'm not too hopeful today's game with Marietta is going to get played.  It looks like steady rain is supposed to be moving into the Wooster area around 2 pm today and will stick around for a while.   :-\

Matt Barnes pitched well again yesterday going 5 scoreless to get his 2nd win of the season.  Matt DeGrand came on in relief and went 3 scoreless as well. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 25, 2010, 11:31:25 AM
Todays game vs Marietta has officially been cancelled..no make up date has been set yet.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 25, 2010, 01:17:17 PM
Witt's game at Cap cancelled as well. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 27, 2010, 02:29:50 PM
After 5 innings it's Wooster 1, Allegheny 1.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 27, 2010, 03:35:14 PM
Wooster wins game 1, 3-1. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on March 27, 2010, 05:03:29 PM
Are there any live stats for the wooster/allegheny game?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 27, 2010, 05:14:24 PM
Sure is. 

http://www.alleghenysports.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

Click "details" then a drop down appears with a link to live-stats.

Wooster is down 2-0 heading to the 7th.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 27, 2010, 05:31:36 PM
The Scots must have left their bats back in Wooster for this series.  They won game one despite getting just two hits.  And for the 2nd time in NCAC play, Wooster was shut out in game 2 and only mustered 3 hits.

McDowell got the win in game one and is now 4-0 on the season.  Tyler Fugate is the tough luck loser in game 2 as he definitely pitched well enough to win the game only allowing 2 runs over 5.1 innings.  Matt Dishong for Allegheny was just better on this day.

Kenyon and Hiram were the only other NCAC East teams in action this weekend and their games today were ppd due to unplayable conditions in Gambier.

Out West, the EC took down Denison in game 1 of a DH down in Granville 4-1.

And I can't find any scores between Wabash and Witt out in Indiana.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on March 27, 2010, 07:25:55 PM
Wabash sweeps Witt in Crawfordsville today.  scores are 7-1 & 8-0.  Good day for the LG's as they jump out to a nice 5-1 record in the NCAC West.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 28, 2010, 12:40:43 PM
Wooster's DH @ Allegheny has been postponed until 4/10.

Maybe they will find their bats by then. 5 hits in 14 innings by a team with a team BA over .320 is not good. Hopefully this was  an aberation than a sign of things to come.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 28, 2010, 03:28:52 PM
I'm very uneasy about Wooster's lack of offense.  Not very good.  I can't complain about the overall pitching.

Still giving up some unearned runs with defense.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 01, 2010, 07:22:37 PM
Woo hammers BW 16-6. Is it just me or does it seem like it has been a month between games. Anyways, the bats showed up. Congrat's to Chris Constantine. According to the box score, 1 AB, 1 hit, 4 RBI, sounds like a Grand Slam.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 02, 2010, 02:22:38 PM
With Wooster's scheduled re-arranged for a doubleheader with Case on Saturday I should be able to catch at least game two.

Pretty happy about that considering I didn't think I'd get to see them play this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 03, 2010, 08:37:58 AM
Scots beat Case friday 17-0.

Strange season in NE Ohio as far as match ups and whom is beating whom.
Case beats Heibelberg, Musky beats Case, Berg and Musky splits.
Strange season or strange game?

Wishing everyone a Happy Easter.

Sat. Woo splits with Case. First game a loss, 7-5. Case scores 4 with 2 out in the 7th against Mcdowell for the win.
Scots win game 2, 13-5.
So far, I don't see Woo as a dominant team in the conference or the region.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 07, 2010, 06:37:40 PM
Wooster was up 2-1 heading toward the top of the 7th.  In the top of the 7th Wooster got two outs before Vesco committed an error at 3rd base for Wooster allowing the batter to reach 1st.  The next batter homered to give John Carroll a 3-2 lead.  Wooster's leadoff man in the bottom of the 7th reached base only to have Stu Beath ground into a double play.  With two outs in the 7th and down 1 run Wooster's Groezinger hit a homer to tie the game at 3.  Wooster was unable to plate the winning run in the 7th so we're heading to the 8th.  Wow.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on April 07, 2010, 06:51:06 PM
^^^ not to mention McDowell was brought into the game to close out the 6th and ended up giving up the 2-run HR in the 7th; Barnes is in now.

Oh, and it looks like it's a 9-inning game, not a 7....unless the LIVE stats are wrong.

Wooster just scored in the bottom of the 8th to take the lead.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 07, 2010, 06:53:07 PM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on April 07, 2010, 06:51:06 PM
^^^ not to mention McDowell was brought into the game to close out the 6th and ended up giving up the 2-run HR in the 7th; Barnes is in now.

Oh, and it looks like it's a 9-inning game, not a 7....unless the LIVE stats are wrong.

Wooster just scored in the bottom of the 8th to take the lead.

I had assumed it was a 7 inning game.   ::)  Muh bad.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 07, 2010, 07:45:31 PM
COW goes down to JCU 7-6. Scots lead 6-3 after 8 but JCU pounds Barnes for 4 in the 9th for the win.
The Scots are spinning right now. Losing to Kenyon, Case, Allegheny, and JCU are not a sign of a top 10 national team. Maybe these boys have read how good they are in the pre-season press clippings and started to believe it. Guys, you need to go out and get it. I think coach P will be letting them know that real soon.
Games with Etta and Berg are really important now for regional rankings. By the way, when was the last time Oberlin was in 1st place in the NCAC East?
Scots need to get their heads straight and play ball.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 09, 2010, 08:53:12 PM
Nice win at Etta for the Scots. Close game, it seems it could have gone either way.

Woo needs to get 2 from the Gators this weekend. They need to build off of this and start to roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 10, 2010, 09:01:39 AM
Big couple of games for the Scots.  They're not intimidating anybody.  They need to really play focused.

I was looking at the stats for last year and noticed that DeBord's production has really dropped off.  He had a great freshman season last year.  Is he hurt or what?  Just a sophmore slump?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 10, 2010, 12:40:10 PM
I don't see any live stats available for Wooster's game @ Allegheny today.  Bummer.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 10, 2010, 02:53:02 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 10, 2010, 12:40:10 PM
I don't see any live stats available for Wooster's game @ Allegheny today.  Bummer.

The ridiculous thing is that Gheny provides live stats for softball and women's lax in the spring, but not baseball.  Huh? 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 10, 2010, 02:55:03 PM
Got it!!  1-1 in the 7th.

Live stats (http://www3.allegheny.edu/athletics/basestats/xlive.htm)

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 10, 2010, 02:58:05 PM
Live stats are available on Allegheny's website. You can find them if you go to the schedule portion and click on details.

At the moment tied at 1's affter six. Mcdowell on the mound for COW.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 10, 2010, 03:22:29 PM
Eff!  Gheny gets a walk off homer to take game one 2-1.  Tough loss for McDowell.  He certainly threw well enough to win today.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 10, 2010, 03:46:57 PM
Quote from: old scot on April 10, 2010, 02:58:05 PM
Live stats are available on Allegheny's website. You can find them if you go to the schedule portion and click on details.

At the moment tied at 1's affter six. Mcdowell on the mound for COW.

I checked earlier and they didn't have their link up yet.  Now that I mention it, I think the same thing happened to another poster the first time the Scots played out there.  They must wait to the last minute to post the link.

Too bad about game 1.  Geez.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 10, 2010, 06:33:45 PM
Scots take game 2 , 2-1 in 10  innings.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 11, 2010, 08:07:36 PM
Wooster took game 1 @ PSB 2-1 and game 2; 15-8. 

Good finish to the weekend trip.  They've had a busy couple days.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 12, 2010, 10:07:57 AM
Back from vacation last week and Wooster has had a busy week while I've been away.

Nice to see the Scots finish the weekend roadie well yesterday. 

Wooster has another big week this week as they host Heide on Wed. and travel to Musky on Thurs. before their big showdown with NCAC East leading Oberlin.  :o  No that is not a typo!   :P  Furthermore, if the season were to end today, Wooster would not make the NCAC tournament.  And again, that is not a typo.  Wooster is currently in 3rd place in the East with a record of 5-3.  Allegheny is second at 6-2 and the Yeomen are alone atop the standings at 7-1.  Wooster can't afford anything less than taking 3 of 4 from Oberlin next weekend and go for a sweep of Hiram to finish out the season.  Then Wooster has to hope that Oberlin and Allegheny duke it out to a split in their series.  I have to say, I didn't see Wooster needing help from Oberlin and Allegheny to win another NCAC East regular season title when the season began, but that is the reality of things right now...  :-\

One thing is for sure wrt this Wooster team.  If they don't start hitting on a more consistent basis, they aren't going anywhere come the postseason.  The pitching seems to be there for the most part.  It's the hitting that is hurting this team.  In 3 of Woo's 6 losses this season, the Scots have been shut out twice and held to one run in another game while the pitching has held their opponents to 8 runs in those 3 games.  That's less than 3 runs/game allowed by the Wooster pitching staff in those 3 losses.  Wooster can't afford to continue to waste quality outings by their pitching staff. 

And the quality of pitching will only get better when/if they reach the post season.  And they've been very fortunate to come out on the good end of some very low scoring games as well as they very easily could have lost all four to Gheny and the same could be said for game 1 vs. PSU-B yesterday.

As old scot mentioned last week, it is past the time for the Scots to get their heads straight and play ball!

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 12, 2010, 10:35:30 AM
Van Horn started game 2 and made it .1 innings (5 runs) before being relieved by Keenan White who finished the 7 inning affair.  White gave up 3 runs in his 6.2 innings.  The interesting thing is that Van Horn got the "W." 

;D

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: RSSmith on April 12, 2010, 03:03:31 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 12, 2010, 10:35:30 AM
Van Horn started game 2 and made it .1 innings (5 runs) before being relieved by Keenan White who finished the 7 inning affair.  White gave up 3 runs in his 6.2 innings.  The interesting thing is that Van Horn got the "W." 

;D



WINNING AND LOSING PITCHER

10.19 (a) Credit the starting pitcher with a game won only if he has pitched at least five complete innings and his team not only is in the lead when he is replaced but remains in the lead the remainder of the game.

(b) The "must pitch five complete innings" rule in respect to the starting pitcher shall be in effect for all games of six or more innings. In a five inning game, credit the starting pitcher with a game won if he has pitched at least four complete innings and his team not only is in the lead when he is replaced but remains in the lead the remainder of the game.

(c) When the starting pitcher cannot be credited with the victory because of the provisions of 10.19 (a) or (b) and more than one relief pitcher is used, the victory shall be awarded on the following basis:

(1) When, during the tenure of the starting pitcher, the winning team assumes the lead and maintains it to the finish of the game, credit the victory to the relief pitcher judged by the scorer to have been the most effective;

(2) Whenever the score is tied the game becomes a new contest insofar as the winning and losing pitcher is concerned;

(3) Once the opposing team assumes the lead all pitchers who have pitched up to that point are excluded from being credited with the victory except that if the pitcher against whose pitching the opposing team gained the lead continues to pitch until his team regains the lead, which it holds to the finish of the game, that pitcher shall be the winning pitcher;

(4) The winning relief pitcher shall be the one who is the pitcher of record when his team assumes the lead and maintains it to the finish of the game.

EXCEPTION: Do not credit a victory to a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when a succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain the lead. In such cases, credit the succeeding relief pitcher with the victory.

(d) When a pitcher is removed for a substitute batter or substitute runner, all runs scored by his team during the inning in which he is removed shall be credited to his benefit in determining the pitcher of record when his team assumes the lead.

(e) Regardless of how many innings the first pitcher has pitched, he shall be charged with the loss of the game if he is replaced when his team is behind in the score, or falls behind because of runs charged to him after he is replaced, and his team thereafter fails either to tie the score or gain the lead.

(f) No pitcher shall be credited with pitching a shutout unless he pitches the complete game, or unless he enters the game with none out before the opposing team has scored in the first inning, puts out the side without a run scoring and pitches all the rest of the game. When two or more pitchers combine to pitch a shutout a notation to that effect should be included in the league's official pitching records.

(g) In some non championship games (such as the Major League All Star Game) it is provided in advance that each pitcher shall work a stated number of innings, usually two or three. In such games, it is customary to credit the victory to the pitcher of record, whether starter or reliever, when the winning team takes a lead which it maintains to the end of the game, unless such pitcher is knocked out after the winning team has a commanding lead, and the scorer believes a subsequent pitcher is entitled to credit for the victory.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 12, 2010, 04:18:12 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 12, 2010, 10:35:30 AM
Van Horn started game 2 and made it .1 innings (5 runs) before being relieved by Keenan White who finished the 7 inning affair.  White gave up 3 runs in his 6.2 innings.  The interesting thing is that Van Horn got the "W." 

;D




Nevermind.  The box score has been updated.   ???
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 14, 2010, 07:07:15 PM
Scots take down the Berg 5-1.

Most important is that they take out the Yoemen this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 15, 2010, 11:27:23 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 14, 2010, 07:07:15 PM
Scots take down the Berg 5-1.

Most important is that they take out the Yoemen this weekend.

Totally agree.  That was a nice win for the Scots yesterday and their pitch by committee did a nice job shutting down that potent Heide offense!  Wooster used 5 pitchers as Barnes, McDowell, and Hall went 2 innings apiece over the first six innings.  Gemberling-Johnson pitched a scoreless 7th before Fugate came on to finish off the last 2 innings.

Now we see if the Scots can use yesterday's win to build some momentum heading into this weekends HUGE series with Oberlin.  Or will they lose any momentum gained yesterday with a loss at Musky this afternoon?

Hard to believe Woo's hopes for making the NCAC tournament hinge on a series with Oberlin?!  But that will be exactly the case this weekend.  Oberlin just tied their school record for wins yesterday in splitting a DH with Case, so to say the Yeomen are a much improved baseball team might be a bit of an understatement.  Oberlin is now 17-10 on the season but just 10-9 in non-conference action.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 15, 2010, 12:41:41 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 15, 2010, 11:27:23 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 14, 2010, 07:07:15 PM
Scots take down the Berg 5-1.

Most important is that they take out the Yoemen this weekend.

Totally agree.  That was a nice win for the Scots yesterday and their pitch by committee did a nice job shutting down that potent Heide offense!  Wooster used 5 pitchers as Barnes, McDowell, and Hall went 2 innings apiece over the first six innings.  Gemberling-Johnson pitched a scoreless 7th before Fugate came on to finish off the last 2 innings.

Now we see if the Scots can use yesterday's win to build some momentum heading into this weekends HUGE series with Oberlin.  Or will they lose any momentum gained yesterday with a loss at Musky this afternoon?
Hard to believe Woo's hopes for making the NCAC tournament hinge on a series with Oberlin?!  But that will be exactly the case this weekend.  Oberlin just tied their school record for wins yesterday in splitting a DH with Case, so to say the Yeomen are a much improved baseball team might be a bit of an understatement.  Oberlin is now 17-10 on the season but just 10-9 in non-conference action.

I was hoping they would get on a role after some big wins, but it just hasn't happened this season.  Coach Pettorini said in The Daily Record that he's been disappointed with how the Scots have played to the level of their opponents.  He was happy with how they played against Heidi, but expects a team with this many seniors and others that have played in some big games, to come out and play consistent no matter who the opponent is. 

His words summed up what many of us had been thinking.

The Scots better be ready for Musky today and the series with Oberlin.  HUGE weekend for sure.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 15, 2010, 06:16:11 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 15, 2010, 12:41:41 PM
Coach Pettorini said in The Daily Record that he's been disappointed with how the Scots have played to the level of their opponents.  He was happy with how they played against Heidi, but expects a team with this many seniors and others that have played in some big games, to come out and play consistent no matter who the opponent is.  

Well, I don't know what it's going to take to get through to this team as far as playing down to the level of their opponents.  The Scots trail at Musky heading into the top of the ninth 5-3...  :-\

Update:

And it's a final. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 15, 2010, 06:24:04 PM
 ::)

I'm not surprised.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 15, 2010, 08:20:29 PM
Very disappointing. 10 Seniors and not one leader. These guys need to take a hard look in the mirror.

At this rate. they'll be lucky to make the NCAC playoffs. NCAA regionals may be a dream. If they continue at this place they may as well just say home.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 16, 2010, 10:43:59 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 15, 2010, 08:20:29 PM
Very disappointing. 10 Seniors and not one leader. These guys need to take a hard look in the mirror.

At this rate. they'll be lucky to make the NCAC playoffs. NCAA regionals may be a dream. If they continue at this place they may as well just say home.

This is indeed very disappointing.  I guess the few seniors lost to graduation did make that much of a difference.  I mean, Pettorini was raving about how last year, they didn't have his best team from a talent perspective, but from a chemistry perspective they may have been one of the best.  I surely didn't think the loss of only a couple of seniors would disrupt that strong chemistry that this team had a year ago, but apparently it did just that.

I'm really at a loss for what it's going to take to get this team going.  If they don't figure it out in a hurry, it's going to be too late.  Hard to believe the #6 ranked team (way too high of a ranking IMO) in the country may not even qualify for ANY postseason play.  But that is the hard reality if they don't find a way to at least take 3 of 4 from Oberlin this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 16, 2010, 12:39:29 PM
I really miss Miller and Karpen.   :'( :'(

Who knows, maybe this weekend is the turning point.  I was hoping the last two weekends would be just that however.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: RSSmith on April 16, 2010, 02:50:56 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 16, 2010, 10:43:59 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 15, 2010, 08:20:29 PM
Very disappointing. 10 Seniors and not one leader. These guys need to take a hard look in the mirror.

At this rate. they'll be lucky to make the NCAC playoffs. NCAA regionals may be a dream. If they continue at this place they may as well just say home.

This is indeed very disappointing.  I guess the few seniors lost to graduation did make that much of a difference.  I mean, Pettorini was raving about how last year, they didn't have his best team from a talent perspective, but from a chemistry perspective they may have been one of the best.  I surely didn't think the loss of only a couple of seniors would disrupt that strong chemistry that this team had a year ago, but apparently it did just that.

I'm really at a loss for what it's going to take to get this team going.  If they don't figure it out in a hurry, it's going to be too late.  Hard to believe the #6 ranked team (way too high of a ranking IMO) in the country may not even qualify for ANY postseason play.  But that is the hard reality if they don't find a way to at least take 3 of 4 from Oberlin this weekend.


Wooster and Salisbury are in similar situations.  Fast start with high national rankings, then about three weeks ago they both started losing to teams that they should not lose to.  Now they find themselves in the position of having to win their conference tournies (Salisbury has already lost once in the CAC tourney) since their in-region records are not so stellar as to guarantee them Pool C bids.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 17, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
COW up on the Obies after 3, 5-0. McDowell toeing the rubber for the Scots.

Live stats available on the Yoemen web site.

Scot win game 1, 7-0. McDowell with a 4 hit 10 strikeout shut out.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 17, 2010, 05:59:21 PM
Scots win game 2, 11-0. Barnes goes the distance giving up 3 hits and striking out 10 for the shut out.
Obies played some shoddy D with 4 errors in the first games and 5 in the second.

We'll see if the Scots can gather some momentum from today, carry it into tomorrow and the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 17, 2010, 06:29:26 PM
The Scots certainly did what they needed to do today.  Way to go.

The pitching they face tomorrow will be much tougher.  Lets hope they keep momentum going alright.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 18, 2010, 01:26:17 PM
Nice start for the Scots in game one for today; up 3-0 after their half of the first.

Matt DeGrand is pitching against Jack Dunn.

Live Stats available again.
http://www.sidearmstats.com/oberlin/baseball/index.htm (http://www.sidearmstats.com/oberlin/baseball/index.htm)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 18, 2010, 03:56:29 PM
COW finds its bats in game 1, winning 18-4, while banging out 19 hits.

We'll see if they can finish off weekend sweep and take game 2.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 18, 2010, 04:07:17 PM
Game one goes the way of the Scots to the tune of 18-4.

Taking the first 3 games of this pivotal series, the Scots will at the very least finish the weekend tied with Oberlin at 8-4. 

Allegheny split with Kenyon yesterday so the Gators now have 3 conference losses.  Allegheny took game one in Gambier this afternoon so if the Gators win game 2 and the Scots can't finish off their sweep of Oberlin, Allegheny will find themselves alone atop the East heading into the last weekend of the season.  However, if Wooster can finish off the sweep of Oberlin and Kenyon can beat Allegheny, it would be Wooster all alone atop the East.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 18, 2010, 04:21:36 PM
Off to a good start in game 2 today.  5-0 heading into the bottom of the 1st thanks to a Van Horn grand slam.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 18, 2010, 06:20:59 PM
Allegheny took 3 of 4 from Kenyon as they swept the Lords this afternoon.

Wooster finishes off the big sweep of Oberlin winning game four 11-4.  Tyler Fugate gets the win for the Scots. Wooster and Allegheny are now tied atop the NCAC East heading into the final week of the season.

Looking ahead, you'd have to say advantage Wooster as they host Hiram who is just 1-11 in NCAC play while Allegheny hosts Oberlin.

Nice weekend for Wooster as they took care of business and came away with a great result in sweeping all 4 games against previously first place Oberlin.  And they not only swept all 4 games, but they did it VERY convincingly!  Maybe this team has finally woken up!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 19, 2010, 03:41:49 PM
Scots get the job done over the weekend by pounding the Obies. It was nice to see the the hitters back up the pitching. Oberlin may be improved , but Woo showed them they have a ways to go.
Hope the Yoemen can rally against Allegheny to take 2nd place in the East.

Overall, I'm still not sold on the Scots being a regional power. Sure, they beat the best the OAC has to offer, but lost to middle of the road OAC teams. They have not shown they can dominate.
Regional rankings should be interesting (and difficult to put together) in the Mid East. Hopefully, this is a sign of Wooster's upward peak.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 20, 2010, 12:46:14 PM
Quote from: old scot on April 19, 2010, 03:41:49 PM
Hope the Yoemen can rally against Allegheny to take 2nd place in the East.

After seeing how Wooster completely dominated Oberlin, I'm not too confident on the Yeomen overtaking Allegheny for 2nd place.  Oberlin needs to take 3 of 4 from the Gators just to force a tie for 2nd. 

Does anyone have any idea how the tie-breaker would work in that case?  I would assume Oberlin would win the tie-breaker if they were to take 3 of 4 from Allegheny, but I'm not certain.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 20, 2010, 06:14:32 PM
Scots Fan,
       I have no clue on tie breakers. It was just wishfull thinking that the Obies could challenge for second place. You know, a feel good story, with the team setting records for wins and the coach in his last year.

Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself thinking Woo will sweep Hiram. They have dropped games to lesser opponents this year. That being said, If COW and the Gators sweep the weekend series, who is first and second in the NCAC East? Woo and Allegheny would be tied and they split the season series.
Does the NCAC award first place to the team that has not won the conference the most recent?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 20, 2010, 08:08:55 PM
I emailed the NCAC a few days ago to ask about tie breakers.  I will pass along what they tell me (if they respond).
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 21, 2010, 11:03:35 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 20, 2010, 06:14:32 PM
That being said, If COW and the Gators sweep the weekend series, who is first and second in the NCAC East? Woo and Allegheny would be tied and they split the season series.
Does the NCAC award first place to the team that has not won the conference the most recent?

This is just a guess, but I'm thinking the tie-breaker would go to either best wins or worst losses.  If it's best wins, Allegheny and Wooster cancel themselves out.  Then you would look to Oberlin in 3rd.  Wooster swept the Yeomen so it would depend on what Allegheny does this weekend.  If Allegheny couldn't sweep Oberlin, Wooster would win the conference in that tie breaker scenario.

If it goes by worst loss, Hiram would be the barometer.  Allegheny already swept Hiram so Wooster would also need a sweep to keep pace with Allegheny.  If Hiram managed to find a way to upset Wooster in one game, Allegheny would win the tie breaker in that scenario.

If both Wooster and Allegheny sweep their series with Hiram and Oberlin I really don't know how they would break the tie.  Kenyon is the only remaining team to use and the Lords managed to take a game from both Wooster and Allegheny.

Things could get interesting if Wooster and Gheny both sweep this weekend...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 21, 2010, 04:36:45 PM
Scots beat Case at the Jake ( or Progressive Field, which ever you prefer).
Woo wins 13-5 and bangs out 17 hits with Groezinger going deep. Pitching was done by committee with Barnes starting and getting the win. Seven Woo pitchers toed the rubber for the Scots.

I hope the offense shown in the 5 days remains throughout the season and into the playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: GoRed on April 21, 2010, 07:36:42 PM
Denison takes the West with a 2-1 victory over Earlham in Granville in extra innings.  It will be interesting to see who ends up in 2nd.  Some big games this weekend.  Go Big Red!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 22, 2010, 08:13:28 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 21, 2010, 04:36:45 PM
Scots beat Case at the Jake ( or Progressive Field, which ever you prefer).
Woo wins 13-5 and bangs out 17 hits with Groezinger going deep. Pitching was done by committee with Barnes starting and getting the win. Seven Woo pitchers toed the rubber for the Scots.

I hope the offense shown in the 5 days remains throughout the season and into the playoffs.

McDowell started for Wooster and went 3 innings.  Glad to see the offense kept rolling. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 22, 2010, 09:25:54 AM
Quote from: countyroad on April 22, 2010, 08:13:28 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 21, 2010, 04:36:45 PM
Scots beat Case at the Jake ( or Progressive Field, which ever you prefer).
Woo wins 13-5 and bangs out 17 hits with Groezinger going deep. Pitching was done by committee with Barnes starting and getting the win. Seven Woo pitchers toed the rubber for the Scots.

I hope the offense shown in the 5 days remains throughout the season and into the playoffs.

McDowell started for Wooster and went 3 innings.  Glad to see the offense kept rolling. 

Despite only going 3 innings, McDowell got the win as he was deemed the most effective pitcher of the seven used by Wooster yesterday and the score was already 8-0 when McDowell's day was done.

I echo the sentiments on the offensive output as well!  Definitely nice to see!   8-)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 22, 2010, 09:42:38 AM
Quote from: GoRed on April 21, 2010, 07:36:42 PM
Denison takes the West with a 2-1 victory over Earlham in Granville in extra innings.  It will be interesting to see who ends up in 2nd.  Some big games this weekend.  Go Big Red!!!

Congrats to Denison on wrapping up the NCAC East title!  As for who will finish 2nd in the East, it could come down to that dreaded tie-breaker word between Wabash and Witt.  Both teams are tied with 8-6 conference records and they play each other in a make-up double header on Saturday.  A split would mean a tie-breaker.  Wabash has a better overall record if that means anything...  ???

Not to toot my own horn or anything, but I kind of called the Denison thing back in February:

Quote from: ScotsFan on February 25, 2010, 10:03:30 AM
Personally, I think Denison has the potential to be the dark horse this year.  They have a TON coming back.  It's just a matter of whether or not they can get past all of the coaching drama that has been going on down in Granville last off-season.

Of course, I also stated that I felt OWU was clearly the 2nd best team in the conference behind Wooster and all they did was finish dead last in the East.   :P

Possible NCAC tournament showdown today as Denison makes the trek up to Wooster to take on the Scots this afternoon.  Let's see if Wooster's hot bats can continue on this afternoon and also see if Wooster can push their win streak to what would match a season best 6 games.  Wooster started the season winning 6 straight and since then, their best streak has only been 4 in a row.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 22, 2010, 11:25:44 AM
Wabash just needs a split on Saturday for the #2 seed.  They already swept Witt earlier in the year thus guaranteeing a head to head advantage on the Tigers.  If Witt wins both games they get the #2.

Congratulations to Denison from me as well.  They won it the best way possible going to Crawfordsville and taking 4 games last weekend from Wabash.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 22, 2010, 11:44:16 AM
Quote from: BASH6-4-3 on April 22, 2010, 11:25:44 AM
Wabash just needs a split on Saturday for the #2 seed.  They already swept Witt earlier in the year thus guaranteeing a head to head advantage on the Tigers.  If Witt wins both games they get the #2.

Congratulations to Denison from me as well.  They won it the best way possible going to Crawfordsville and taking 4 games last weekend from Wabash.

Thanks for eliminating the confusion BASH.  I haven't been following the west as closely so I didn't know Bash had already taken 2 from Witt.  That makes it pretty easy to figure out then.   :)  Wabash just needs a win and they're in.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 22, 2010, 12:05:31 PM
Has anyone seen the following video of the kid from Fordham catapulting himself over the catcher to avoid a tag at home plate to safely score a run?

Superman Plays Baseball (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Superman-leap-makes-Fordham-player-a-viral-video?urn=mlb,235668)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 22, 2010, 01:01:09 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 22, 2010, 12:05:31 PM
Has anyone seen the following video of the kid from Fordham catapulting himself over the catcher to avoid a tag at home plate to safely score a run?

Superman Plays Baseball (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Superman-leap-makes-Fordham-player-a-viral-video?urn=mlb,235668)

I saw that on ESPN.  That was pretty cool.  The catcher appeared to be in shock.  I think he closed his eyes just before a potential collision.   ;D
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 22, 2010, 06:31:04 PM
Wooster's offense continues to surge this afternoon up at Art Murray.  The Scots have banged out 10 hits and have benefited from 4 Big Red errors to lead Denison 10-2 in the bottom of the 7th!  8-)

Update:

10-2 ends up being the final.  Tanner Hall gets the win pitching 2.2 innings of scoreless baseball to improve to 3-1 on the season.  Keenan White got the start and pitched well only allowing 2 runs over the first 4 innings.  Nate Gemberling-Johnson finished off the game by throwing 2.1 innings of scoreless baseball. 

Wooster has now matched their season high with a 6 game win streak and look to build on that taking on lowly Hiram this weekend at Art Murray.   8-)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BASH6-4-3 on April 24, 2010, 03:52:54 PM
Wabash gets the needed win over Witt taking the first game 3-0 behind a stellar performance by Andrew Swart.  The win clinches the NCAC West #2 seed. Little Giants head back to post-season for the second straight year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 24, 2010, 04:03:41 PM
Wooster kept rolling with a sweep of Hiram today 14-0, 15-3.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on April 24, 2010, 09:33:00 PM
Also, the Scots set an NCAA D-III record in the 5th inning of the second game, with four triples in the inning, including two by Matt Groezinger.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 25, 2010, 08:50:25 AM
Allegheny took 3 of 4 from Oberlin Friday and yesterday clinching at least 2nd place in the East.  The Gators finish with a 12-4 conference mark.  Wooster needs 2 wins tomorrow to win the East outright.  Wooster is currently 11-3 after today's DH sweep of the pups.

Still uncertain on how the tie-breaker would play out if Wooster can only manage a split tomorrow.

Wooster's bats remained hot as the Scots banged out 29 hits in the two games and McDowell and DeGrand went 5 innings in each game to lead the way for the Scots victories.

And, wrt that NCAA record set by the Scots, I wonder what the record is for an individual hitting multiple 3 baggers in one inning is?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 25, 2010, 07:28:40 PM
No tie-breaker needed in the East!

Congrats to Wooster on winning the NCAC East regular season championship!  8-)

Wooster completed their sweep of Hiram today by the scores of 18-4 and 5-1.  Wooster finishes with an NCAC mark of 13-3 which is one game better than Allegheny. 

Wooster also craked 30 wins once again.  I'm not sure how many years in a row they have won at least 30 games, but I know it has happened every year in this decade which is a pretty amazing run of consistency!

Next up for Wooster is the NCAC tournament unless they get some last minute scheduling for a game or two this week to keep them sharp until next weekend.  If not, Wabash will be their opponent in the first round just like last year.  And if last year is any indication, it should be a pretty darn good series with the Lil Giants.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on April 25, 2010, 07:50:50 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 25, 2010, 07:28:40 PM
Next up for Wooster is the NCAC tournament unless they get some last minute scheduling for a game or two this week to keep them sharp until next weekend.  If not, Wabash will be their opponent in the first round just like last year.  And if last year is any indication, it should be a pretty darn good series with the Lil Giants.

There's no series this year, in the new format.  It's a four team double-elimination tournament.  Wooster-Wabash is Thursday's nightcap, scheduled for an 8:00 start.  The victor moves into the winner's bracket final at noon on Friday, while the loser would have to win four consecutive games over two days to take the title.

http://www.northcoast.org/ba/bachampionships.html (http://www.northcoast.org/ba/bachampionships.html)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 25, 2010, 07:59:04 PM
Quote from: fantastic50 on April 25, 2010, 07:50:50 PM
There's no series this year, in the new format.  It's a four team double-elimination tournament.  Wooster-Wabash is Thursday's nightcap, scheduled for an 8:00 start.  The victor moves into the winner's bracket final at noon on Friday, while the loser would have to win four consecutive games over two days to take the title.

http://www.northcoast.org/ba/bachampionships.html (http://www.northcoast.org/ba/bachampionships.html)
Oh yeah!  I forgot about the new format in the conference tournament.  Thanks for the reminder fantastic50.  :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on April 27, 2010, 09:12:44 AM
Wooster has moved up to #3 in the new D3baseball .com rankings.  Looks like they are peaking just at the right time.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 27, 2010, 09:38:16 AM
Hopefully they can keep it going.  If they're fortunate enough to make it through the NCAC tournament, what in the world are they supposed to do with the 2.5 weeks they'll be off until the Mid-East Regional?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 27, 2010, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: countyroad on April 27, 2010, 09:38:16 AM
Hopefully they can keep it going.  If they're fortunate enough to make it through the NCAC tournament, what in the world are they supposed to do with the 2.5 weeks they'll be off until the Mid-East Regional?

Wooster has added the make-up game with Marietta at Art Murray that was postponed twice earlier in the season due to weather.  Although the make-up date doesn't really help Wooster's time off between the NCAC tourneament and the Mid-East Regional as it has been re-scheduled for May 2nd which is the day after the conclusion of the NCAC tournament.  :-\
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 27, 2010, 10:17:10 AM
Quote from: HeyScots on April 27, 2010, 09:12:44 AM
Wooster has moved up to #3 in the new D3baseball .com rankings.  Looks like they are peaking just at the right time.

While I am happy with the performance of the Scots over the last 2 weeks or so, we can't forget that 8 of their 10 wins in their current 10 game win streak are vs. Hiram and Oberlin.  I know Oberlin was much improved this year, but they still finished the NCAC portion of their schedule losing 7 of their last 8 to Wooster and Allegheny.  And Hiram only won a single conference game this season.

But, with that said, at least Wooster seems to not be playing down to the level of their competition.  At least they are winning convingingly over these teams.  And they did beat the NCAC West champion Denison rather convincingly last week as well.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 27, 2010, 04:54:11 PM
If Wabash wins on Thursday night, is it because Wabash actually beats the Scots or is it automatically because Wooster "played down" to the LGs?  I need to know so that I can react accordingly if Wabash winds up winning that game.  I wouldn't want to get myself too excited if the result is because Wooster just lost focus for the evening.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: MCalum on April 27, 2010, 07:14:19 PM
It's because they played down to your level.  They won't lose.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 27, 2010, 07:42:42 PM
Thanks....just wanted to check.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 28, 2010, 10:30:48 AM
Has anyone ever been to Chillicothe to see a game at the V.A. Memorial Stadium?  They have a link to the NCAC Tournament (http://www.denison.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/0910/ncacbaseball10.html) on Wooster's web site and it looks like a pretty nice facitlity. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on April 28, 2010, 01:29:27 PM
I have played there before and it is a very nice facility with plenty of seating.  Also, the entire field is turf...including the batters box and pitchers mound.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 29, 2010, 11:39:48 AM
It's going to be a competitive tournament.  I'm not ready to hand the crown to Wooster by any means, though they have to be the favorite.  Any team can get on fire and have a great weekend. 

It will be fun to see who steps up with more on the line.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 29, 2010, 01:39:39 PM
Hiram completed their season with a 6-31 record and a team ERA of, wait for it, 12.40.  Twelve-point-four-zero.  They gave up over 11 runs per game this season.  They gave up over half a run PER OUT.  My slowpitch team doesn't give up that many runs!  If smashing up on that team makes Wooster the "hot" team coming in to this weekend, so be it.  I don't know how cozy I'd get with those results.  I think Wooster might be seeing a bit better arm tonight. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 02:29:59 PM
So glad wallyworld finally chose to join us?!     ::)

Funny.  I didn't recall anywhere where anyone was singing the praises of Wooster's domination of Hiram?  Nice to see you haven't lost your touch on reading into things though...

Since you don't seem to be impressed with Wooster's dominance over lowly Hiram, I was just wondering how you felt about the 10-2 pasting the Scots gave to Denison just last week heading into their series with Hiram?  You know wally, the same Denison that was fresh off of a 4 game sweep of Wabash in c'ville???

Furthermore, why don't you look at Wooster's entire body of work?  They've beaten 2 of the top teams in the Mid East Region (Heide and Marietta) and they've played one of the more difficult non-conference schedules in the country.  So, spare me if I'm not blown away at the prospect of Wooster squaring off against the Wabash pitching staff.  I think Wooster has faced plenty of good arms this season.

I just hope they don't have to face your slow pitch team...  ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 29, 2010, 03:00:43 PM
Do you find it insulting that the NCAC even makes Wooster play in a conference championship?  I mean, they played a hard non-league schedule!  They beat freaking Marietta!! It's amazing that the league even forces Wooster to step on the same field with anybody else in our downtrodden little baseball league. 

But hey...all four teams are going to show up in Chillicothe.  We might as well play the games and make a weekend out of it.   Relax and try to enjoy yourself, pal.  :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 29, 2010, 03:19:54 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 29, 2010, 03:00:43 PM
Do you find it insulting that the NCAC even makes Wooster play in a conference championship?  I mean, they played a hard non-league schedule!  They beat freaking Marietta!! It's amazing that the league even forces Wooster to step on the same field with anybody else in our downtrodden little baseball league. 

But hey...all four teams are going to show up in Chillicothe.  We might as well play the games and make a weekend out of it.   Relax and try to enjoy yourself, pal.  :)

You pulled the same card during the NCAC basketball tourny too.  You fabricated the idea that Wooster fans thought they had the NCAC wrapped up before the tourny started.  What exactly is your problem with Wooster?  As already said, nobody on here is handing Wooster the NCAC championship.  Your bitterness is unfounded by anything anyone has said on this board.  Are you any relation to Spence?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on April 29, 2010, 03:52:07 PM
I think we can all agree that no one is praising wooster because they swept Hiram...however there are many other reasons why wooster is the favorite to win the NCAC, but no team should be taken lightly as we saw wabash win game 1 against wooster last year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 04:33:53 PM
The smell of smoke is heavy in here all of the sudden from the flaming a certain poster just added to the board...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 04:54:30 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 29, 2010, 03:00:43 PM
Do you find it insulting that the NCAC even makes Wooster play in a conference championship?  I mean, they played a hard non-league schedule!  They beat freaking Marietta!! It's amazing that the league even forces Wooster to step on the same field with anybody else in our downtrodden little baseball league. 

But hey...all four teams are going to show up in Chillicothe.  We might as well play the games and make a weekend out of it.   Relax and try to enjoy yourself, pal.  :)

Exactly what are you freaking talking about???  You show up after Wabash makes the conference tournament with your same old tired act you gave us all in the basketball forum.  Someone states the obvious that Wooster is the favorite to win the NCAC tournament and you get your panties all in a wad?  Blow things out of proportion much??? 

It also amazes me how much you spin things around.  First you act as though we Wooster fans are thumping our chests because we swept lowly Hiram.  I mean you yourself said your slow pitch softball team is better than Hiram. (I guess that makes you an athlete because you play slow pitch softball?)  So, I then point out to you that not only was no one bragging up the sweep of Hiram last weekend, but that you might want to check the rest of Wooster's schedule because there are plenty of worthy opponents on Wooster's schedule.  And what do you do?  Spin it as if we are trying to say that no one in the NCAC is worthy of Wooster's competition?  Brilliant.  That's it exactly?  ::)  You sir are a freaking genius!   :D

And then there's always your staple of ending your stellar posts with RELAX.  You get all worked up blowing things completely out of proportion as to what was actually being discussed and then you spin it around and tell us to relax.  Niiiiiiice.  Here's a thought.  Maybe you should take some of your own advice?

In the end, I guess there's just no pleasing you is there?  I'll leave you with this thought.  When I think about the definition of flaming on a message board, I bet your picture is right there next to it!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 05:01:59 PM
Maybe we could get back to what this forum was about for the entire season until wally world so graciously interrupted things and that is talking baseball?

Allegheny and Denison are locked in a pitcher's dual as it is scoreless through 5 1/2 innings.  Each team has been held to 3 hits.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on April 29, 2010, 05:15:23 PM
I think thats expected in the first game of the tournament...both teams dont know what to expect and are very cautious to not make the first mistake.  Looks like the hitting is starting to pick up a little in the 6th
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 05:27:42 PM
Quote from: HeyScots on April 29, 2010, 05:15:23 PM
I think thats expected in the first game of the tournament...both teams dont know what to expect and are very cautious to not make the first mistake.  Looks like the hitting is starting to pick up a little in the 6th


Plus both teams probably have their #1's going on the mound as well.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 29, 2010, 05:30:11 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 04:54:30 PM
And then there's always your staple of ending your stellar posts with RELAX.  You get all worked up blowing things completely out of proportion as to what was actually being discussed and then you spin it around and tell us to relax.  Niiiiiiice.  Here's a thought.  Maybe you should take some of your own advice?

In the words of the great Walter Sobchak....calmer than you are.  

Meanwhile, at the VA Stadium, Denison is up 2-1, still batting with the bases loaded in the bottom of the 6th.  

Big two-out single for DU plates two more.  4-1 Big Red.  Is Denison winning or is Allegheny playing down to the Big Red?  May be too early to tell.  

Nothing for the Gators in the 7th.  Lucas seems to be cruising this afternoon....Gators have six more outs to figure him out.  

One more for Denison in the 7th.  5-1 Big Red.  Gators need to start stringing together some hits about nowish.  

And Game 1 goes to Denison, 5-1.  No "pace of play" problems here...this one wrapped up in just a smidge over 2 hours. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 06:43:10 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 29, 2010, 05:30:11 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 04:54:30 PM
And then there's always your staple of ending your stellar posts with RELAX.  You get all worked up blowing things completely out of proportion as to what was actually being discussed and then you spin it around and tell us to relax.  Niiiiiiice.  Here's a thought.  Maybe you should take some of your own advice?

In the words of the great Walter Sobchak....calmer than you are.  


Whatever you say wallyworld.  Or should I just call you Walter.  ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 29, 2010, 08:31:51 PM
Two questions....

How the h*ll is Lucas 3-3?  He's been flat out dominant winning his last 3 starts now, but how did he not have a win before then? 

Also, did anyone else check out the regional rankings today?  Can't believe there haven't been any comments about them yet.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 29, 2010, 08:33:26 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 06:43:10 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 29, 2010, 05:30:11 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 04:54:30 PM
And then there's always your staple of ending your stellar posts with RELAX.  You get all worked up blowing things completely out of proportion as to what was actually being discussed and then you spin it around and tell us to relax.  Niiiiiiice.  Here's a thought.  Maybe you should take some of your own advice?
In the words of the great Walter Sobchak....calmer than you are.  
Whatever you say wallyworld.  Or should I just call you Walter.  ::)
That's the same Walter who drew a firearm in the Southern California Bowling League, which contravened a number of the league's bylaws, right? Not the pacifist to reference, that guy.

In any event, hello, fellow Achievers. And a good day to you, sirs!

Anyway, back to baseball. Couldn't let a Lebowski riff just sit there.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: GoRed on April 29, 2010, 08:42:00 PM
I look forward to tonight's game only to see who the Big Red will get to play tomorrow.  I would think Mike Clark (and the team) would prefer to see the Scots for the first time later in the day tomorrow after playing Wabash in the Winner-Winner game. No doubt Wabash is stinging from that weekend series we had and wants revenge.  But Denison would have to be confident having taken a 4-gamer from them so recently.

On the other hand, if the Big Red come up against the Scots next in the Winner-Winner game, the OMG factor is there for them right away.  They only faced each other once this year and the outcome was not one to boast about.  Can Denison beat Wooster?  In my opinion, yes.  But having lost 10-2 the first time around will take the right kind of mindset, and it doesn't necessarily come naturally when the heat is on.  They do seem to have it, though, and I am thinking this could be a title year.  GO BIG RED!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 09:08:58 PM
In case anyone is interested, there is a Livecam (http://www.chillicothepaints.com/livecam.shtml) offered on the Memorial Stadium website.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 09:20:29 PM
Can you say 2 out thunder?    8-)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 29, 2010, 10:13:19 PM
Scot up 7-2 after 4.

Wally,
      get in the game before you pop off. You contributed zero to this board all year and come in to make waves at the end. Wait till FB season when your team can back up your mouth.

Bash get 2  in the top of the 5th on a 2 run jack. 7-4 after 4 1/2.

Last up date, its past my bed time. Matt Johnson having a day for COW 4 for 5 with an HR and 3 RBI. Scots leading 11-6 after 7. Good night all.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 11:30:19 PM
Does anyone have an answer as to why the NCAC feels the need to have 2 hrs. between games?  Thank god that Allegheny/Denison game moved along so quickly.  Even with that quick first game, it still didn't allow the nightcapper to start until after 8:30.   I'd hardly think that it takes 2 hours to turn around to get things ready for the next game.  :-\








Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on April 29, 2010, 11:40:18 PM
doesnt look like the wabash pitchers faired much better then the Hiram pitchers tonight...Nice start for the scots this post season
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 11:42:04 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 29, 2010, 01:39:39 PM
I think Wooster might be seeing a bit better arm tonight. 

Eleven runs on thirteen hits might suggest otherwise...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 30, 2010, 07:42:26 AM
I am glad to see Wooster kept their bats going.  They did get a little help from some Wabash errors but that happens.  Wabash did score some runs on McDowell which concerns me somewhat.  Credit to Wabash though for scoring on a good pitcher.

I'm looking forward to the game with Denison today.  Should be a good one to listen to.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 30, 2010, 08:10:42 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 11:30:19 PM
Does anyone have an answer as to why the NCAC feels the need to have 2 hrs. between games?  Thank god that Allegheny/Denison game moved along so quickly.  Even with that quick first game, it still didn't allow the nightcapper to start until after 8:30.   I'd hardly think that it takes 2 hours to turn around to get things ready for the next game.  :-\

I was wondering about that too.  It's not like they need time to drag the infield, etc. there. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 30, 2010, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on April 30, 2010, 08:10:42 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 29, 2010, 11:30:19 PM
Does anyone have an answer as to why the NCAC feels the need to have 2 hrs. between games?  Thank god that Allegheny/Denison game moved along so quickly.  Even with that quick first game, it still didn't allow the nightcapper to start until after 8:30.   I'd hardly think that it takes 2 hours to turn around to get things ready for the next game.  :-\

I was wondering about that too.  It's not like they need time to drag the infield, etc. there. 

They do have to drag the playing surface to shake up all of those rubber particles in the field turf.  But even with that, I still wouldn't think a 2 hour turnaround is necessary.


Quote from: Dr. Acula on April 29, 2010, 08:31:51 PM
Two questions....

How the h*ll is Lucas 3-3?  He's been flat out dominant winning his last 3 starts now, but how did he not have a win before then? 

Also, did anyone else check out the regional rankings today?  Can't believe there haven't been any comments about them yet.

Can't answer your first question Dr.  Maybe GoRed could field that one?

As for the Regional Rankings, I am somewhat surprised and then again, not so surprised.  I am somewhat surprised to see W&J at the top of the rankings.  I just don't see enough quality wins to warrant them being ranked ahead of Heide.  I mean, Heide just came off a sweep of ME #3 JCU?! 

And what I am not so surprised to see is Wooster ranked below JCU and Heide.  Both of their SOS's are higher than Wooster's.  I guess SOS trumps head to head as far as Heide goes and JCU has head to head and SOS going in their favor vs. Wooster.  All in all, the regional rankings don't concern me as much as they do in, say basketball, where hosting sites are determined based on regional rankings.  In baseball, the host sites are already pre-determined so the rankings are basically for seeding.  And as deep as the Mid-East is this year, I really don't see hardly one easy game depending on who the NCAA brings in or if they hopefully choose to send somebody out. 

Also, looking at the rankings, it looks like there might be a distinct possiblity that the OAC gets 3 teams in.  I would think if the OAC gets 3 bids, you would see one of those teams being shipped out.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 30, 2010, 10:24:07 AM
Those are some good observatins ScotsFan.  The ME sure has some quality teams.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 30, 2010, 10:38:37 AM
Did anyone notice the current poll on the front page of D3baseball.com?  It has to do with who we think the leading candidate for Player of the Year is.  Personally, I think they got Wooster's candidate wrong.  While Van Horn is certainly a worthy candidate, Matthew Johnson would get my vote for Wooster's MVP and also Wooster's candidate for POY honors as well.

Just comparing stats, Johnson leads the team in batting avg, at bats, hits, runs, triples, home runs, and total bases.  He's 2nd on the team in doubles, stolen bases, SLG%, and OB% and he's also managed to drive in 36 runs (good for 4th on the team) from the lead-off spot!  Add to that, he has a sparkling .971 FLD% from 2nd base (he and Van Horn could possibly be the best DP combo in the country as Wooster leads all of D3 in turning DP's) to go along with his impressive offensive #'s!  I mean, is there any doubt that Matthew Johnson deserves to be Wooster's candidate for not only team MVP, but also for national POY?  I personally don't think so.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on April 30, 2010, 10:53:58 AM
From my experience the first regional rankings on D#baseball.com really dont mean anything.  I can guerentee you that JCU doesnt even make a regional if they dont win the OAC.  I also realistically think that unless someone other then marietta or heidelberg wins the OAC, those will be the only 2 to make a regional.  Maybe its just because Im a Wooster fan, but if wooster wins this NCAC tournament, there is no doubt in my mind that they should be the #1 seed in the regional.

As far as the POY is concerned, I absolutely agree that Matthew Johnson should be a very strong candidate.  He should have it locked up in the NCAC, but should also win the national POY in my opinion.  Of course I dont know to much about other players on other teams, but its hard to argue with Johnson's numbers.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 30, 2010, 11:06:57 AM
Quote from: HeyScots on April 30, 2010, 10:53:58 AM

As far as the POY is concerned, I absolutely agree that Matthew Johnson should be a very strong candidate.  He should have it locked up in the NCAC, but should also win the national POY in my opinion.  Of course I dont know to much about other players on other teams, but its hard to argue with Johnson's numbers.

I don't know a whole lot about other candidates either, but Johns Hopkins has a couple of studs putting up some pretty impressive offensive #'s and W&J has a guy batting over .500 on the season.  I wasn't trying to imply that Johnson is a favorite to win National POY (although I definitely think he should be in the discussion).  I was just saying that I think he is a more deserving candidate than Van Horn who D3baseball.com gives as Wooster's candidate on their fan poll on the front page. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 30, 2010, 11:24:25 AM
I was thinking Johnson has had a better year than Van Horn as well.  He'd be a prime "comeback player of the year" candidate if there was such a thing after him being injured for most of last year.

Hard to say if Johnson is a National POY candidate.  The kids from Johns Hopkins have had darn good seasons.  I looked them up yesterday.  The kid from Heidelberg has had a pretty good season as well. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on April 30, 2010, 11:49:45 AM
is anyone else getting an error when they click on the live stats today?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 30, 2010, 12:07:40 PM
Add another homer for Johnson's team lead as he leads off todays game with a 4 bagger and Wooster stakes Matt Barnes with an early 1-0 lead.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 30, 2010, 12:20:11 PM
Quote from: HeyScots on April 30, 2010, 11:49:45 AM
is anyone else getting an error when they click on the live stats today?

It's working for me.  I'm listening to the game audio though through WQKT.  I missed the 1st inning, and home run by Johnson.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 30, 2010, 12:27:16 PM
They just said on the radio that Johnson is 15 for his last 16 at bats.  I don't care who you're playing against, that is just insane. 

Right after they said that he grounded out.   :P
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 30, 2010, 12:27:55 PM
Quote from: countyroad on April 30, 2010, 12:27:16 PM
They just said on the radio that Johnson is 15 for his last 16 at bats.  I don't care who you're playing against, that is just insane. 

Right after they said that he grounded out.   :P

They jinxed him!   :P
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 30, 2010, 01:04:35 PM
Wabash pitchers did fine...the defense really let Swart down last night.  Wooster is too good to give them extra outs which is exactly what happened in both the second and fifth innings last night.  Wooster scored six unearned runs in those two innings.  Credit to the Scots for taking advantage of the extra outs.  See how easy that is....to actually give a team credit for winning a game.  If I were arrogant and disrespectful, I'd write 500 words on how Wabash played down to Wooster and lost because of their own mistakes, but that's not how I roll.  Wooster played a better game last night and won.  Doff of the cap to the Scots. 

The road is tough through the loser's bracket...have to win two 9-inning games today and then beat the Denison/Scots winner twice tomorrow.  That's a lot of innings in two days. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 30, 2010, 01:12:13 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 30, 2010, 01:04:35 PM
See how easy that is....to actually give a team credit for winning a game.  If I were arrogant and disrespectful, I'd write 500 words on how Wabash played down to Wooster and lost because of their own mistakes, but that's not how I roll.  

Isn't that big of you.  Trust me.  We know how you roll...  ::)

BTW, could you please explain to me how you go about writing 500 words on how a Wabash team with a record of 18-22 'played down' to Wooster and their 32-7 record???  I know you're the spin king so this ought to be good. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 30, 2010, 01:26:09 PM
What does that even mean?  Don't post something nondescript and end with an eyeroll.  Make your point already. 

And I wouldn't post anything about Wabash playing down to the competition because that's about the most arrogant and disrespectful line of commentary imagineable (a line of commentary, by the way, that you engage in repeatedly).  I give credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 30, 2010, 01:46:32 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 30, 2010, 01:26:09 PM
What does that even mean?  Don't post something nondescript and end with an eyeroll.  Make your point already. 

You roll with a flame thrower.  You're nonexhistent in this forum until the last week of the season.  Then you suddenly appear with nothing constructive to say except all of your sarcastic overreacting opinions.    You constantly spin things others say blowing things way out of proportion.  And then you come in at the end acting as if you're the most respectful poster on this board?  That's how you roll!   Talk about arrogance?  Look in the mirror.

All in all, I don't even know why I bother.  You're flaming ways are becoming tired and I take the bait every time.  I'm done fanning your flames!  Enjoy talking to yourself the remainder of the baseball season.  At least you have all your Wabash buddies on the football forum to talk about all of the 5* recruits Wabash is stealing away from Notre Dame these days to look forward to!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 30, 2010, 01:54:47 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on April 30, 2010, 01:46:32 PM
At least you have all your Wabash buddies on the football forum to talk about all of the 5* recruits Wabash is stealing away from Notre Dame these days to look forward to!

That's funny.  We all know Notre Dame can't land 5 star players. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: HeyScots on April 30, 2010, 02:13:02 PM
Looking good for the scots...up 8-1 in the 7th
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 30, 2010, 03:26:05 PM
Impressive result for the Scots.  Wooster advances to the championship round tomorrow and is very much in the driver's seat.  Whoever survives today is going to have to find enough arms to beat Wooster for 18 innings tomorrow....after playing 18 innings today.  That's a tall order. 

First elimination game between Wabash and Allegheny starts shortly.  The winner gets to turn around and play Denison in another elimination game this evening. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 30, 2010, 04:20:56 PM
LGs strike first...John Holm has a three-run home run in the bottom of the 1st to put Wabash up 3-0.  

Wabash has added one run in the 2nd.  Allegheny has had one baserunner through three innings.  Wabash is threatening in the 3rd...runners at the corners with two out.  Seibel singles to score one.  Runners still on the corners with the top of the order now up for Wabash.  LGs lead 5-0.  RBI single for Brian Lares...6-0 Wabash.  Strawser gets lifted for Allegheny.  6 ER (on the hook for the two runners on base as well), 10 H in 2 2/3 IP.  Rough afternoon for Strawser.  Abbot gets Allegheny out of the inning.  6-0 Wabash after three innings.  

Solo home run for Holm in the 4th.  John is seeing the ball well today.  7-0 Wabash through the 4th inning.

2 doubles + 1 single = 2 runs for Allegheny in the fifth.  7-2 Wabash as the game moves to the bottom of the fifth.  3 up, 3 down for Wabash...first inning of the game that Wabash hasn't pushed a run across.  7-2 Wabash after 5 innings.  

Wabash threatening in the 7th...bases are full of LGs with two outs.  Pennington doubles and clears the bases.  Wabash pushes the lead to 10-2.  

Leadoff home run for John Holm in the Wabash 8th.  That's a 4-5, 3 HR day for Holm.  Yikes.  Wabash leads 11-2.  

Last chance time for the Gators...down 11-2 in the top of the 9th.  The Gators shall not quietly into this good night...Fago has hit a two run home run to bring the Gators back to 11-4.  Wabash would love for starting pitcher Keegan Leckrone to go the distance here...we'll see if he can finish the job.  One more run for Allegheny before Lowmaster flies out to end it.  Wabash stays alive with an 11-5 win over Allegheny.  CG for Leckrone, which is huge given the number of innings left to play if Wabash is to win this tournament.  Wabash vs. Denison in the second elimination game coming up in a bit. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 30, 2010, 06:13:50 PM
John Holm had a day he won't soon forget.  Gee wiz!

I'm interested to see what he does against Denison this evening. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 30, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
New game, new post....here we go....

Denison threatens in the first, but strands two RISP.  Wabash coming up in the bottom half.  Wabash also puts two on in the first, but fail to score.  0-0 after 1 inning.  

Still scoreless through 3...

Best scoring chance of the game so far...Wabash has runners on the corners with one out in the bottom of the 4th.  Tyson pops up to short...two down.  Johnson grounds out...Denison is out of the jam.  Scoreless game after 4.  

Denison has scored first.  Nicholson reached on a two out error and scored on a Forgatch single.  Horn has followed with a single and the Big Red have two on with Aidan Lucas up.  Lucas doubles, two runs score.  Extra outs are killer.  Big Red lead 3-0...still batting in the fifth.  Triple for Teague scores Lucas.  4-0.  

Wabash has loaded the bases with one out in their half of the fifth.  Holm strikes out for the second out.  Timmons flies out and Wabash leaves them loaded.  Sigh.  4-0 Denison after 5.

Denison gets a two out double to score one more.  5-0 Big Red halfway through the 6th.

Wabash is finally on the board.  Leadoff triple and a sac fly scores one for the LGs in the 7th.  5-1 through 7 innings.

We're in the 9th.....
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Denison is threatening with two on and one out.  Two out single for the Big Red plates two runs.  7-1 is the lead for Denison.  The Big Red have been able to get the big two-out hit tonight, Wabash has not.  There's your difference.  

Top of the order for Wabash in the 9th...let's see if they have one more big rally left in them.  Leadoff single for Lares.  Pennington flies out.  Coggins hits into a FC.  One out left for Wabash.  FC for Timmons.  That's the ballgame...Denison wins 7-1 and will play Wooster tomorrow with the NCAC championship on the line. 

Tough way to end the season, but Wabash has a lot of positive inertia.  Wabash graduates just two seniors and opens a new ballpark in 2011.  The future is bright for this team. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 01, 2010, 09:35:59 AM
So.  Who does Denison send to the mound for today's game?  Do they go back to Lukas on just a day's rest after he pitched 8 innings on Thursday?  I didn't follow that game, so I don't know how many pitches he had to throw.  I would guess, judging by the fact that 'Gheny only had 6 hits and one run, that Lukas didn't have to over-exert himself too much.

Looking at the Denison pitching staff, it looks like they've had a solid 3 man rotation and then that 4th spot looks as if it's been a revolving door.  That's why I feel that the Big Red have a tall tall order in trying to not only beat the Scots twice today, but somehow find a way to cool off those hot bats. 

Even if Lucas goes in game one and somehow gets the job done, who does Denison turn to in game two?  Vaske wasn't very effective yesterday against Wooster.  Hardly think he's going to be much better trying to go on no rest.  And Smith pitched well last night, but how much does he have left in the tank?

Meanwhile, Wooster has Matt DeGrand who if fully rested.  And they've also got their 4th starter in Tyler Fugate who only pitched 3.1 innings of relief of McDowell on Thursday night.  I would think McDowell could give some innings as could a host of others including Tanner Hall, Josh Stidham or Gemberling-Johnson. 

All in all, whoever takes the mound for Denison is going to have a tall order ahead of them in trying to cool off these Scot bats.  I mean, Vaske had been a hot pitcher coming into yesterday's game.  He'd won his last 3 starts only giving up less than 2 per game over those 3 starts.  And all Wooster did was touch him up for 8 runs in just 5.2 innings of work.  For Denison, the prospect of going at these hot Wooster hitters with tired arms does not make for a probable happy ending for the Big Red.

BTW, did anyone notice that Aiden Lukas and Park Smith not only are Denison's top 2 pitchers in terms of ERA?  They are also Denison's top 2 hitters in terms of batting avg.  That's a stat you don't see too often.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 01, 2010, 09:45:48 AM
Also, I doubt this game is going to start at 11.  There are some pretty nasty strorms about to move into the Chilicothe area.  At least this is one advantage of having field turf.  The field should still be in good playing condidtion no matter how hard it rains.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 01, 2010, 12:49:49 PM
Well, Wooster and Denison are under way.  After 1 inning there's not score. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 01, 2010, 02:09:53 PM
Go figure.  Denison's starter has just 6 appearances total this season and an era over 9 and he's outpitching Woo's #3 man in Matt DeGrand so far today.

Top of the 5th and Denison leads 6-4.

And DeGrand can't get out of the 5th.  Denison has runners on the corners with 2 outs and Wooster brings on Keenan White.

And Giarratani can't make it out of the 5th either.  But I'm sure that Mike Clark will take that performance from his starter.  Giarratani walked back to back batters on 8 straight pitches to force Clark to make the change.  Wooster has the tying run at the plate.

McCosker is the new pitcher for the Big Red.  He has a 6.00 ERA.

Denison makes an error on a routine DP that would have ended the inning.  Instead, a run scored on an errant throw and now Wellstead comes through with a big 2 out RBI.  Scots making Denison pay for the error and it's a one run game.  7-6 Denison and now Wooster has runners at the corners as the 2 out thunder continues for the Scots!

Bases are now loaded.  Wooster's hottest hitter at the plate.  And we are now tied as the Big Red walk in a run!  And Clark is making another pitching change.  And Clark goes to a guy with an ERA over 14.  And Sorensen gets sutton to fly out to center.  But not before the Scots score 3 to tie it at 7's through 5.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 01, 2010, 03:06:48 PM
And it looks like Denison's lack of depth in the pitching dept. is starting to take it's toll.  Wooster takes on 3 more in the 6th and now leads 10-7!

Tyler Fugate is now on to try and pick up the 3-inning save.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 01, 2010, 03:24:41 PM
Wooster tacks on 4 more in the 7th and now leads 14-7!

Groezinger is having a day.  He's now homered twice and driven in 5 runs!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 02, 2010, 07:53:03 AM
Congrats to the Scots on another NCAC title and a bid to the NCAAs.They left no doubt who the best team is, out scoring three opponents by a total of 52-15.

Hope Coach P can find a way to keep the bats hot during the 2 1/2 week layoff until the "Real Season" starts.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 02, 2010, 09:03:20 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 02, 2010, 07:53:03 AM
Congrats to the Scots on another NCAC title and a bid to the NCAAs.They left no doubt who the best team is, out scoring three opponents by a total of 52-15.

Hope Coach P can find a way to keep the bats hot during the 2 1/2 week layoff until the "Real Season" starts.

I'll echo the sentiments of old scot.  Congrats to Wooster on winning yet another NCAC title.  That is now Wooster's 13th NCAC championship in 26 years.  Denison came out fighting and really took it to the Scots for 5 innings.  But as expected, Denison just couldn't match Wooster's depth at pitching.   Credit the Wooster bully for not allowing a run as Keenan White and Tyler Fugate combined to pitch 4.1 innings of shutout baseball after the Big Red touched up Matt DeGrand for 7 runs over the first 4.2 innings of play.  Wooster, on the other hand, touched up the Denison pen for 11 runs and scored the last 15 runs of the game!

Wooster has now run their season best win streak to 13 and it's not too difficult to see why they have won 13 in a row.  They have averaged almost 13 runs/game over the streak!  Only twice has Wooster failed to score in double digits (7-0 win vs. Oberlin and 5-1 vs. Hiram).  As the weather has been warming up, so has Wooster's bats I guess.   8-)

Now we will have to see how Wooster handles this long layoff.  Can Woo's hot bats stay hot?   I heard on the broadcast yesterday that the NCAC scheduled the tournament early so that the games didn't interfere with finals.  Hopefully Coach Pettorini can add a couple of games here late in the season. 

BTW, today's make-up game with Marietta has been ppd again.  It looks like there is a window maybe mid-week that this game could be re-scheduled.  We shall see if it happens though...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 02, 2010, 09:29:53 AM
Code (Wooster Daily Record Article) Select
The Scots will now look to stay sharp over the upcoming 19-day break. The team will take final exams this week.

[b]"We've got some bumps and bruises that will get a chance to heal, too," Pettorini said. "But after next week, we'll bring everyone back, get them into a dorm, and we'll have a boot camp. They'll be seeing me 24/7."[/b]


Looks like Coach P already has some thoughts in mind as to how to keep this team sharp and focused...  8-)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 02, 2010, 12:37:29 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 02, 2010, 09:03:20 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 02, 2010, 07:53:03 AM
Congrats to the Scots on another NCAC title and a bid to the NCAAs.They left no doubt who the best team is, out scoring three opponents by a total of 52-15.

Hope Coach P can find a way to keep the bats hot during the 2 1/2 week layoff until the "Real Season" starts.

I'll echo the sentiments of old scot.  Congrats to Wooster on winning yet another NCAC title.  That is now Wooster's 13th NCAC championship in 26 years.  Denison came out fighting and really took it to the Scots for 5 innings.  But as expected, Denison just couldn't match Wooster's depth at pitching.   Credit the Wooster bully for not allowing a run as Keenan White and Tyler Fugate combined to pitch 4.1 innings of shutout baseball after the Big Red touched up Matt DeGrand for 7 runs over the first 4.2 innings of play.  Wooster, on the other hand, touched up the Denison pen for 11 runs and scored the last 15 runs of the game!

Wooster has now run their season best win streak to 13 and it's not too difficult to see why they have won 13 in a row.  They have averaged almost 13 runs/game over the streak!  Only twice has Wooster failed to score in double digits (7-0 win vs. Oberlin and 5-1 vs. Hiram).  As the weather has been warming up, so has Wooster's bats I guess.   8-)

Now we will have to see how Wooster handles this long layoff.  Can Woo's hot bats stay hot?   I heard on the broadcast yesterday that the NCAC scheduled the tournament early so that the games didn't interfere with finals.  Hopefully Coach Pettorini can add a couple of games here late in the season. 

BTW, today's make-up game with Marietta has been ppd again.  It looks like there is a window maybe mid-week that this game could be re-scheduled.  We shall see if it happens though...

Etta had to push Wooster again because their DH at Ott was rained out yesterday.  It got rained out again today too (they play tomorrow).  Looking at Etta's schedule it looks like there may be a couple spots on a Mon/Wed that they could sneak this Woo game in.  Hope it happens!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 10, 2010, 08:53:09 PM
This board has been dead since the Scots won the NCAC bid.

I'd like to say the latest regional rankings are a joke!!!! Berg #1 Etta #2, Ha, the Scots own head to head wins from both and W&J #3, makes me puke.

The Scots are #2 in the nation, but #4 in the region. Since the NCAC finished 2 weeks ago and the Scots are in, is this a ploy by the voters to get more Mid East teams into the regionals? ,

Anyways, the championship is won on the field. Go Scots, kick some Mid East butt and get to the championship series again.
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Post by: mideastfan2 on May 10, 2010, 09:56:25 PM
^^^^^ no...the mideast will get 6 teams into the regionals.  There may be other teams from other regions shipped in to make the Marietta Regional an 8-team regional though.

NCAC - Wooster
MIAA - Adrian
OAC - Heidelberg/Marietta
Pool C - Marietta/Heidelberg
HCAC champion
PAC champion

The only way the mideast gets more than 6 teams is if John Carroll or Muskingum win the OAC tourny, which would mean HEID & MAR would both get Pool C bids (giving the OAC 3 teams in the regional).....or if W&J loses the PAC tourny, thus being in the Pool C cluster (I don't think they deserve a Pool C though, and wouldn't get one).
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 11, 2010, 10:37:34 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 10, 2010, 08:53:09 PM
This board has been dead since the Scots won the NCAC bid.

I'd like to say the latest regional rankings are a joke!!!! Berg #1 Etta #2, Ha, the Scots own head to head wins from both and W&J #3, makes me puke.

The Scots are #2 in the nation, but #4 in the region. Since the NCAC finished 2 weeks ago and the Scots are in, is this a ploy by the voters to get more Mid East teams into the regionals? ,

Anyways, the championship is won on the field. Go Scots, kick some Mid East butt and get to the championship series again.

I've been out of town doing some hiking and mountain biking down in Hocking Hills over the weekend and I left my computer at home (purposefully  8-) ) so I haven't had a chance to process the latest regional rankings. 

But having now seen them, I have to agree with you old scot.  I somewhat get Heide being ranked ahead of Wooster because the SP's have Wooster on SOS.  I guess SOS trumps head to head and overall regional record?  Outside of that though, I'm kind of dumbfounded as to how Marietta jumped ahead of the Scots and how W&J continues to remain ranked ahead of the Scots?  Who has W&J played exactly?  I see no real quality wins and they have several not-so-quality losses?!  Yet the rankings committee can't seem to get enough of the Presidents...

Oh well.  At least the Scots are in and they don't have to rely on these silly regional rankings for their chance to get into the NCAA's.  As you said old scot, the championship is won on the field and not by some rankings committee. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 15, 2010, 06:38:42 PM
I'm going out on a limb and predicting that Heide locked up the top seed in the Mid East Region by sweeping their way to the OAC Tournament Title with their 9-0 win over Marietta today.  :P   However, if Wooster isn't the #2 seed, something is wrong as Marietta lost twice over the weekend and W&J also lost in the finals of the PAC tournament to Thomas Moore.  W&J is still alive for the A bid but they have to beat TMC in a winner take all game for the PAC title.  With the losses by both Marietta and W&J, I can't see how Wooster doesn't jump both of them in the final regional ranking.
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Post by: ScotsFan on May 26, 2010, 11:36:29 AM
Congrats to Greg VanHorn and Matthew Johnson on making the D3baseball.com 2010 All-America Team.

I gotta say though, I'm a bit surprised to see Johnson only get HM status.  His #'s were better than both 2B's on the 2nd and 3rd teams with the exception of RBI's.  And the fact that Johnson only had 41 RBI's is pretty damn good considering he hit from the lead-off spot for the majority of the season.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on June 08, 2010, 08:10:52 PM
Congrats to Denison's Aiden Lucas on being drafted today.  He was the Cards' 27th round pick.  Rounds 30-50 tomorrow.

Another Mideast guy, RHIT's Derek Eitel, went in the 17th round.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on June 22, 2010, 05:26:39 PM
Wooster 2010 grad Matt Johnson signed a free agent contract with the Toronto Bluejays. He will play in the class A NY- Penn league. Good luck Matt. Take advantage of your opportunities.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on June 23, 2010, 01:17:36 AM
Johnson got his 1st start on Monday night.  Played SS and went 1 for 4.  Congrats on the first professional hit!  Auburn will be back in Niles to play the Scrappers in late August.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on June 24, 2010, 03:15:30 PM
Aidan Lucas was assigned to the Johnson City Cardinals of the Appalachian League (Rookie League).  They have only played a couple games so far and he has not appeared.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on July 08, 2010, 12:53:41 AM
Quick update:

Matt Johnson has played in 5 games now.  He is 3-for-11 (.273).  The starting SS is hitting below the Mendoza line so maybe Johnson can grab some additional AB's.   

Aiden Lucas has made 6 relief appearances (4.2 IP, 4 K).  He hasn't had a decision, but has respectable 3.86 ERA early on.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on August 02, 2010, 07:48:12 PM
Been away from  the boards for some time. I'm trying to update everyone on Wooster's Matt Johnson.
The first month of his Milb career consisted of one start per week at ss and fill in rolls to ph ect. The ss playing in front of him can barely hit his weight.

For the last week Matt has started at second base. He has started the last 4 days and is starting to develope some consistantcy with frequent AB's.

Pro ball is so cutthroat. The ss playing ahead of Matt is a draft choice and younger, so he gets the position based on that. He'll get every chance to succeed.

I hope Matt is given the chance to show what he can do and is not "just a player brought in to fill out the roster."
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on December 21, 2010, 10:43:40 AM
Wooster does not have their 2011 schedule posted yet.  Does anyone have some insider information on which weeks they'll be in Florida, and where?  I'm assuming it'll again be in the Port Charlotte area in that Russ Matt tournament, but I'm considering making the trip down there this year and I need to be sure.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OWU_Dad on December 23, 2010, 12:24:26 AM
Wooster Booster,

It looks like they will be in Port Charlotte again next spring. Here is a link to Snowbird Baseball, http://www.snowbirdbaseball.com/2010-2011-Season/index.php. The teams participating in 2011 are posted, but the schedule for next spring has not been updated.

Spring break for CoW is March 11 through the 24th, I know last year CoW spent both weeks in FL.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on February 14, 2011, 07:20:41 AM
For those that haven't already noticed, Wooster put up their 2011 outlook.

http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/releases/20110209ylxtrr
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on February 17, 2011, 11:28:10 AM
After reviewing Wooster's roster, it looks like Coach P has worked hard at recruiting Western Pa. with 7 incoming frosh from that area.
It should be an interesting season for the Scots with many positions open for newcomers and upper classmen to compete for. I'm guessing Coach P will be filling out several different line-up cards to see who will answer the bell.
It looks like pitching and defense will have to carry this team for awhile.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on February 19, 2011, 02:43:20 PM
The Scots' Spring trip will be March 13th thru the 24th. They open at LaGrange on 3-13 and begin the Snowbird Classic on 3-14 in Port Charlotte, Florida. They depart FLA on the 24th and play a doubleheader at Wabash on 3-26. The following day they play two more league games against OWU. A brutal early season schedule to say the least!

Go Scots!
Expect Victory
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Gramps on February 20, 2011, 11:14:15 PM
macdade77, THE BERG will be in Florida Mar 6th to Mar 15th.  The family will be there to support the team. Maybe we'll cross paths down there.  Looking forward to an exciting season. 


GO BERG!!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on February 21, 2011, 11:28:45 AM
Gramps,

I usually try and watch as many games as I can while in Port Charlotte. I have a particular interest in Heidelberg because one of their pitchers used to play with my son in High School. I coached the boy as well. I will look for you and if you seek me out just ask for the "Captain." My nickname derives from my affinity for a certain brown adult beverage. Enjoy your trip!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 01, 2011, 09:04:21 AM
Pre-Season Coaches poll announced for NCAC.

http://www2.northcoast.org/sites/default/files/baseball/11M%27sBaseballPoll.pdf

Do you see any surprises?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on March 01, 2011, 11:26:06 AM
Mano,
My son plays for Woo but I will go on the record as saying that OWU will be the surprise team in the NCAC this season. They return two excellent SPs as well as 3-4 top notch position players. Wabash can certainly swing the bats but their lack of pitching depth was a problem last season. Irregardless, it should be an interesting year on account of the new format.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
My son is a seinior in high school and several NCAC teams are recuiting him. We will be watching closely the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on March 04, 2011, 10:42:33 AM
Mano,
I don't know what your son is looking for but I can tell you a few things about Wooster. First, the baseball program is old school with a capital"O". A kid can be a prized recruit but playing time is strictly earned. Coach P gets on players but always gets the best out of each one of them. A kid might get in the doghouse but he is always given the opportunity to play his way out. The game is taught and played the right way at the College of Wooster. The facilities are okay but the new REC Center will provide a superb indoor practice facility. Combine all of this with Woo's academic prowess, I can say that there are few better places to play D# baseball in the country. Good luck to you and your son!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Cali-Scot on March 05, 2011, 04:36:13 PM
Quote from: macdade77 on March 04, 2011, 10:42:33 AM
Mano,
I don't know what your son is looking for but I can tell you a few things about Wooster. First, the baseball program is old school with a capital"O". A kid can be a prized recruit but playing time is strictly earned. Coach P gets on players but always gets the best out of each one of them. A kid might get in the doghouse but he is always given the opportunity to play his way out. The game is taught and played the right way at the College of Wooster. The facilities are okay but the new REC Center will provide a superb indoor practice facility. Combine all of this with Woo's academic prowess, I can say that there are few better places to play D# baseball in the country. Good luck to you and your son!

Although I did not play baseball (I ran track and cross country) at Wooster, I can tell you the above post is right on about Baseball at Wooster.   The other thing about the baseball program I liked besides a coach who was obviously very competitive and got results year after year, was that it was always baseball season at Wooster.  The Basketball program is the same way.    The players always working on their game.  The environment at Wooster is one of hard consistent work and success. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 05, 2011, 05:28:41 PM
Quote from: Cali-Scot on March 05, 2011, 04:36:13 PM
Quote from: macdade77 on March 04, 2011, 10:42:33 AM
Mano,
I don't know what your son is looking for but I can tell you a few things about Wooster. First, the baseball program is old school with a capital"O". A kid can be a prized recruit but playing time is strictly earned. Coach P gets on players but always gets the best out of each one of them. A kid might get in the doghouse but he is always given the opportunity to play his way out. The game is taught and played the right way at the College of Wooster. The facilities are okay but the new REC Center will provide a superb indoor practice facility. Combine all of this with Woo's academic prowess, I can say that there are few better places to play D# baseball in the country. Good luck to you and your son!

Although I did not play baseball (I ran track and cross country) at Wooster, I can tell you the above post is right on about Baseball at Wooster.   The other thing about the baseball program I liked besides a coach who was obviously very competitive and got results year after year, was that it was always baseball season at Wooster.  The Basketball program is the same way.    The players always working on their game.  The environment at Wooster is one of hard consistent work and success. 

And a testament to that statement is that Coach P is on the precipice of win number 1,000 for his career and Coach Moore is climbing the ladder towards 700 wns for his career!   :o
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wabashsid on March 08, 2011, 11:49:38 AM
New photos of the Wabash baseball field have just been posted. The Little Giants open their new stadium on Saturday, March 19 against Bluffton.

View the photos at http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=8766 (http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=8766).
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 09, 2011, 03:28:26 PM
I appreciate all the input on Wooster. I have a lot of respect for his program. Anybody have any insoght on any of the other programs.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on March 10, 2011, 01:14:44 PM
Mano,
Good luck in your search process. Wherever your son ends up he will have the ride of a lifetime!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 10, 2011, 03:16:06 PM
Thanks, he should make a decision in the next couple of weeks. I don't eny him he has quit a few options to choose form and it is proving to be a hard decision.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on March 12, 2011, 10:37:08 AM
It's finally here....... baby! The Wooster Scots open their season Sunday with a 12:00 contest against La Grange (Georgia). The Panthers are 10-4 but own an 8-1 home record. Should be a real good test for the Scots. Coach P will find out early if he can expect the much needed contributions from his heralded Freshman class.

Go Scots!
Expect victory!
PS Give em hell Justin!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Joe Wally on March 13, 2011, 12:53:12 PM
Quote from: wabashsid on March 08, 2011, 11:49:38 AM
New photos of the Wabash baseball field have just been posted. The Little Giants open their new stadium on Saturday, March 19 against Bluffton.

View the photos at http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=8766 (http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=8766).

Looking forward to the inaugural games next Saturday.  Has a name been selected for the stadium/field, or is that information under wraps?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 13, 2011, 04:55:10 PM
Quote from: macdade77 on March 12, 2011, 10:37:08 AM
It's finally here....... baby! The Wooster Scots open their season Sunday with a 12:00 contest against La Grange (Georgia). The Panthers are 10-4 but own an 8-1 home record. Should be a real good test for the Scots. Coach P will find out early if he can expect the much needed contributions from his heralded Freshman class.

Go Scots!
Expect victory!
PS Give em hell Justin!

And Wooster wins their season opener in GA by the score of 6-4!  :)

No box score though.

Now Wooster is back on the bus for the hike to Port Charlotte where they will be back in action tomorrow for a DH starting at noon with Montclair State at noon and Utica at 4pm.  I know nothing about either team and seeing as I'm still in basketball mode, I don't have the energy to look up any info on Woo's opponents tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 13, 2011, 06:16:43 PM
I noticed LaGrange had a box score up.  LaGrange was 11-4 going into the game.

http://home.lagrange.edu/athletics/stats/Baseball/2011/HTML/31311cw.htm

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 13, 2011, 08:48:21 PM
A few observations on the Scots opener.

It is nice to see Woo's offense come out of the gate with 12 hits. Not so great to see 10K's, 5 coming from the cleanup spot, split between 3 players.

On D, 2 DP's and no errors.

3 frosh in the starting lineup with two of them going 2 for 4 with an RBI. I'm sure Coach P will be throwing out few different lineups for the first month of the season.
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Post by: old scot on March 14, 2011, 07:46:07 PM
Woo sweeps todays DH. Winning game 1 vs Montclair St. 11-6 and taking the nightcap 11-1 over Utica.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Gramps on March 14, 2011, 10:03:05 PM
These young men known as "THE BERG" Team, are just that, a team, someone always steps up when needed. Today, it was Alex Monroe, (ALMO) who had a day, 3-3, 3 RBIs, and 2 Runs scored.
THE BERG is now 9-0 with a win today over perenial powerhouse Carthage, 8-5.

Also a tip of Gramps hat to the pitchers today: N James, B Stucky, (Win #1), and A Lowe, (Save #4 ).
And accolades to the Hitters: A Monroe, 3-3, 3 RBIs, 2 Runs; J Martin, 2-4, 1 Run, W Brechun, 2-5, 1 RBI; and hits by R Lizcano, G Keen, J Lash, and D Andrzejczak.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 14, 2011, 10:13:32 PM
Quote from: Gramps on March 14, 2011, 10:03:05 PM
These young men known as "THE BERG" Team, are just that, a team, someone always steps up when needed. Today, it was Alex Monroe, (ALMO) who had a day, 3-3, 3 RBIs, and 2 Runs scored.
THE BERG is now 9-0 with a win today over perenial powerhouse Carthage, 8-5.

Also a tip of Gramps hat to the pitchers today: N James, B Stucky, (Win #1), and A Lowe, (Save #4 ).
And accolades to the Hitters: A Monroe, 3-3, 3 RBIs, 2 Runs; J Martin, 2-4, 1 Run, W Brechun, 2-5, 1 RBI; and hits by R Lizcano, G Keen, J Lash, and D Andrzejczak.

think you got the wrong thread Gramps, but we got the message...The Berg plays as a team, no one player more important than the others....similar to all top DIII schools like Wooster, Marietta, Chapman, ECSU, etc.


Heidelberg has the talent this year to be very successful, it'll be interesting to see if they can live up to those expectations when May rolls around.  I'm sure Coach Palm will have them ready; he's an outstanding Coach and mentor for those young men!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 15, 2011, 08:25:28 AM
Quote from: old scot on March 14, 2011, 07:46:07 PM
Woo sweeps todays DH. Winning game 1 vs Montclair St. 11-6 and taking the nightcap 11-1 over Utica.

Montclair State beat Wooster 11-6. 

http://www.montclair.edu/athletics/sports/baseball/stats/03-14-11.html

Dang. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 15, 2011, 12:16:02 PM
My original post stated Woo split the DH losing to Montclair St. Info coming from the snowbird web site. D3 BB and Woo web site stated the Scots won that game, so I revised my post.
I guess you can't believe everything you read Ha,Ha. Woo web  has made the correction on the out come of the game.

I beleave the Scots will experience more losses in the early going until Coach P can weed out a daily lineup. What is more of a concern is Matt Barnes. The box score states he went 2/3rds of an inning, facing 5 batters, giving up 2 earned runs, 2 hits, and striking out 2. It seems like that would be a very short leash barring any injury?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 15, 2011, 01:10:23 PM
I had concerns about Barnes when I saw the box score as well.

I hear ya on the web site data.  That is frequent this time of year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 15, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
Quote from: old scot on March 15, 2011, 12:16:02 PM
What is more of a concern is Matt Barnes. The box score states he went 2/3rds of an inning, facing 5 batters, giving up 2 earned runs, 2 hits, and striking out 2. It seems like that would be a very short leash barring any injury?

Heard he was removed due to an ankle injury of some sort...  :-\ 

Haven't heard the severity of it.  Lets hope its nothing too serious.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 15, 2011, 03:08:27 PM
Quote from: Joe Wally on March 13, 2011, 12:53:12 PM
Quote from: wabashsid on March 08, 2011, 11:49:38 AM
New photos of the Wabash baseball field have just been posted. The Little Giants open their new stadium on Saturday, March 19 against Bluffton.

View the photos at http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=8766 (http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=8766).

Looking forward to the inaugural games next Saturday.  Has a name been selected for the stadium/field, or is that information under wraps?

As per this link from the NCAC site it is to be named Wabash Ballpark:
http://www2.northcoast.org/sites/default/files/baseball/Baseball%2003-14-2011.pdf
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 16, 2011, 07:17:47 AM
Wooster lost to Rhodes 3-2 in 11 innings.  Wooster held to 7 hits.

The clean-up spot went 1-5 in the game for Wooster.  No much production out of the 4 hole.  Old Scot mentioned it after game 1 and it's held true so far for the first 4 games.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 16, 2011, 10:26:38 AM
14 K's by Woo hitters is not a good sign. Hopefully, this is early season rust and not something that will be haunting all season. Not being able to put the ball in play takes pressure of the defense and limits the hit and run.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 16, 2011, 10:29:23 AM
Quote from: old scot on March 16, 2011, 10:26:38 AM
14 K's by Woo hitters is not a good sign. Hopefully, this is early season rust and not something that will be haunting all season. Not being able to put the ball in play takes pressure of the defense and limits the hit and run.

I was real curious as to how the bat rules would effect this team with how much Wooster has relied on offense in year's past.  I think it's still hard to tell at this point.  It would be an easy thing to point the finger at, but the opponents are playing under the same rules. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 16, 2011, 07:47:19 PM
Scots take Rhodes in 12,  3-2. Woo K'd 9 times and had 6 errors, Lucky to win with those stats.
Matt Barnes came back to pitch 1 and 1/3 with 3 K's.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 17, 2011, 06:23:21 PM
Scots lose today to Montclair St 3-2. Woo out hits their opponents 10-8. Woo hitters also K'd 8 times

Scots play a DH with Kenyon tomorrow to open NCAC play.
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Post by: mideastfan2 on March 18, 2011, 08:02:16 AM
Even as a Marietta alum, I have developed a sort of fandom for Wooster over the years (as well as other mideast top teams like Heidelberg, Adrian & Otterbein).

It's been tough to see Wooster have such a slow start in FL, but even worse to see them losing all these games in such a CLOSE matter.

Do you think it has something to do with the new bats, and Pettorini's long-time philosophy of hitting, hitting, and hitting some more??  Defense and pitching has become even more important this year.

I'm sure Pettorini has the talent to succeed; and he always seems to find a way to make that talent work.  Hopefully they are just working through some growing pains, and come May they will be ready to battle MC and the BERG for the Region once again.

Good luck Scots!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 18, 2011, 08:15:54 AM
I too was curious about how the bat rules would impact Wooster this year as I've mentioned in other posts.  I'm not ready to point to that as the reason for Wooster's slow start.  They've been playing some young guys.  I'm not sure how their youth compares to MC or HC.  In yesterday's game with Montclair St. they had 3 freshman in the line-up plus the pitcher (Washinski).  Washinski pitched a pretty good game.  They also pinch hit with a freshman. 

While it's a little difficult as a Wooster fan to see them losing these games, it could be one of those years where the team really comes together as the season progresses and some young guys make a name for themsevles.  Hopefully they grow enough to be in contention for a regional birth come season's end.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Joe Wally on March 18, 2011, 12:13:01 PM
Anyone headed to Crawfordsville tomorrow for the opening of the new baseball stadium?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 18, 2011, 04:47:56 PM
Woo takes game 1 over Kenyon 5-2, McDowell goes 6 giviing up 8 hits and 2 runs.

Woo takes game 2, 10-6. Barnes gets hit hard giving up 10 hits and 5 runs in 3 and 2/3rds.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 21, 2011, 08:03:32 AM
Wooster lost 3 straight to Wisconsin Oshkosh.  Ugh.  
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Joe Wally on March 21, 2011, 09:24:38 AM
Quote from: Joe Wally on March 18, 2011, 12:13:01 PM
Anyone headed to Crawfordsville tomorrow for the opening of the new baseball stadium?


Acknowledging my bias from the outset, the new park is a great venue, which will be made even better when the grass fills in on the berms along the outfield wall providing a Victory Field type atmosphere, for those familiar with Indy's AAA ballpark.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 22, 2011, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: Joe Wally on March 18, 2011, 12:13:01 PM
Anyone headed to Crawfordsville tomorrow for the opening of the new baseball stadium?

I was there. It was honor scholar weekend and my son was there. So I watched both games Saturday. Nice park. Still looks kinda soft around home plate though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 23, 2011, 10:07:17 AM
Scots take Plymouth St. and Scranton to up their record to 7 W and 6 L.

Quote from: countyroad on March 18, 2011, 08:15:54 AM
I too was curious about how the bat rules would impact Wooster this year as I've mentioned in other posts.  I'm not ready to point to that as the reason for Wooster's slow start.  They've been playing some young guys.  I'm not sure how their youth compares to MC or HC.  In yesterday's game with Montclair St. they had 3 freshman in the line-up plus the pitcher (Washinski).  Washinski pitched a pretty good game.  They also pinch hit with a freshman. 

While it's a little difficult as a Wooster fan to see them losing these games, it could be one of those years where the team really comes together as the season progresses and some young guys make a name for themsevles.  Hopefully they grow enough to be in contention for a regional birth come season's end.



I think the the new bats definately have something to do with the offense.Stats thru 11 games show Woo has a team BA of .284 with 19 extra base hits and only 1 HR. Most alarming is the 86 K's.

I too think it will take this team some time to jell and hopefully can peak near playoff time.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 23, 2011, 10:10:28 AM
The 86 Ks has nothing to do with the bat. Still, that is a ton of ks for a program like Wooster.

Do you think it is a result of pitchers being more apt to throw inside or is it related to the players themselves?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 23, 2011, 10:18:41 AM
Scots close out the Fla. trip with a Wed. game against Manchester and Thurs. with Wis. Oshkosh. Travel day Fri. and Sat DH at Wabash and Sun. DH at OWU.

I would assume they would go straight to Wabash from Fla. then OWU before returning to Wooster. I think that will test this team both physically and mentally.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 23, 2011, 10:31:04 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 23, 2011, 10:10:28 AM
The 86 Ks has nothing to do with the bat. Still, that is a ton of ks for a program like Wooster.

Do you think it is a result of pitchers being more apt to throw inside or is it related to the players themselves?
I would say both. Most of Wooster's power graduated last year and they are playing alot of Freshman. It looks like its taking sometime for them to adapt to the college game.
Van Horn is the most established returning player in terms of power. He has 0 HR but, has been HBP's 8 times in 37 AB's.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 23, 2011, 10:34:22 AM
HBPs are the stat to watch increase this year as more pitchers will throw inside with less fear of it leaving the park.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on March 24, 2011, 06:22:53 AM
Wooster always has a lot of HBPs. Two of the top 4 single season totals all-time, plus a couple of individual "achievers" beyond that.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on March 24, 2011, 06:28:16 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on March 24, 2011, 06:22:53 AM
Wooster always has a lot of HBPs. Two of the top 4 single season totals all-time, plus a couple of individual "achievers" beyond that.

In other news (couldn't figure out how to edit), Ohio Wesleyan beat Heidelberg, 4-2. After a slow start, maybe OWU is showing what led d3baseball.com to tab them a contender in the league. Wittenberg also beat Heidelberg.

And Allegheny split with St. Olaf, winning behind Davis and falling 15-14 in a wholestaff game. The Gators are 7-3.

Looks like it might not be a one-team league this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 24, 2011, 11:18:22 AM
Well, now that Wooster's tremendous run to the national championhip game in baskeball has ended just short of Woo's first NC in any sport, I guess it's time to switch gears and start getting back into baseball mode!   8-)

Quote from: forheavendial4999 on March 24, 2011, 06:28:16 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on March 24, 2011, 06:22:53 AM
Wooster always has a lot of HBPs. Two of the top 4 single season totals all-time, plus a couple of individual "achievers" beyond that.

In other news (couldn't figure out how to edit), Ohio Wesleyan beat Heidelberg, 4-2. After a slow start, maybe OWU is showing what led d3baseball.com to tab them a contender in the league. Wittenberg also beat Heidelberg.

And Allegheny split with St. Olaf, winning behind Davis and falling 15-14 in a wholestaff game. The Gators are 7-3.

Looks like it might not be a one-team league this year.

I think you need to have a certain number of posts in order to be able to edit IIRC.

And you are definitely correct in your assumption that this won't be a one team league this year.  I think OWU, along with Allegheny, Wabash and even Witt could all play roles in who ends up as the regular season champs.  Is the NCAC Tournament just the top 4 teams again this year, because that will make for a fun race to see who ends up in Chillicothe again this season.

Looking at the GL Region as a whole and scores involving the best teams in the region, I'm wondering if the new bats are more of a factor or if it is just the quality pitching that seems to be abundant among the best teams in the regeion.  It seems the Berg's bats have gone relatively quiet of late as they haven't scored more than 4 runs in their last 5 games and are just 2-3 in that stretch.  But the Berg's pitching has been keeping them in every game.  Marietta's pitching may just be the best in the GL Region.  The Pios are scroring just enough runs while their pitching has been lights out!  Adrian is also one of the best teams in the region and they just went toe to toe with Marietta and Heide in their last 4 games going 2-2 while handing Marietta their only loss of the season to date.  And no team scored more than 3 runs in any of those four games.  Wooster's problem has been lack of offense so far this season, but much like Heide, the Scots' pitchers have been keeping them in every game as Wooster's pitchers have yielded 5 runs or less in 4 of Wooster's 6 losses.

The NCAC will be off and running in a big weekend of games as the first full slate of conference games is scheduled to kick off, weather permitting!   ;D  Wooster will be at Wabash to get their first look at the Lil Giants' new baseball field in a DH on Saturday and are at OWU for a DH on Sunday.  OWU is hosting Kenyon for a DH on Saturday.  Witt is hosting Allegheny for two on Saturday and then hit the road for a DH at Wabash on Sunday.  And Allegheny finishes up their weekend with a DH at Denison.  Rounding out the conference action this weekend, Hiram is at Denison for two on Saturday and at Kenyon for two on Sunday.  Oberlin doesn't kick off conference play until April 2nd when they travel to Wabash.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm really looking forward to this new format.  I like not having divisions anymore and hopefully it will stay this way!  Oh and it looks like the weather is cooperating as usual as old man winter has returned to make things a bit chilly for anyone going out to watch some NCAC baseball this weekend as it looks like temps will be only in the upper 30's across the region...  :P   ::)   8-)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on March 24, 2011, 04:12:33 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 24, 2011, 11:18:22 AM
Well, now that Wooster's tremendous run to the national championhip game in baskeball has ended just short of Woo's first NC in any sport, I guess it's time to switch gears and start getting back into baseball mode!   8-)

Quote from: forheavendial4999 on March 24, 2011, 06:28:16 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on March 24, 2011, 06:22:53 AM
Wooster always has a lot of HBPs. Two of the top 4 single season totals all-time, plus a couple of individual "achievers" beyond that.

In other news (couldn't figure out how to edit), Ohio Wesleyan beat Heidelberg, 4-2. After a slow start, maybe OWU is showing what led d3baseball.com to tab them a contender in the league. Wittenberg also beat Heidelberg.

And Allegheny split with St. Olaf, winning behind Davis and falling 15-14 in a wholestaff game. The Gators are 7-3.

Looks like it might not be a one-team league this year.

Looking at the GL Region as a whole and scores involving the best teams in the region, I'm wondering if the new bats are more of a factor or if it is just the quality pitching that seems to be abundant among the best teams in the regeion.  It seems the Berg's bats have gone relatively quiet of late as they haven't scored more than 4 runs in their last 5 games and are just 2-3 in that stretch.  But the Berg's pitching has been keeping them in every game.  Marietta's pitching may just be the best in the GL Region.  The Pios are scroring just enough runs while their pitching has been lights out!  Adrian is also one of the best teams in the region and they just went toe to toe with Marietta and Heide in their last 4 games going 2-2 while handing Marietta their only loss of the season to date.  And no team scored more than 3 runs in any of those four games.  Wooster's problem has been lack of offense so far this season, but much like Heide, the Scots' pitchers have been keeping them in every game as Wooster's pitchers have yielded 5 runs or less in 4 of Wooster's 6 losses.


Bats are definitely making a huge difference. Home runs are way down. Giving up 5 runs or less doesn't really say that much anymore I don't think. You mentioned Marietta...they've scored less than 5 runs 7 times already. They were not a great but a pretty good offense last year and return most of their team. Christopher Newport has played 26 games and only allowed more than 5 runs 3 times all year and one of those it looks like they put in a down the line reliever in a non-competitive game. It'll be more clear when the first round of nationwide stats comes out, but it's pretty clear it's making a big difference.

And I think Adrian will end up with 30+ wins again. It'll be interesting to see if they can maintain their current level after Domschot and Partyka are gone, but those two give them a chance against just about anyone.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 24, 2011, 09:20:12 PM
Witt and OWU take down Heidelberg. Denison dumps Marietta and Wooster seems to be struggeling early on. This should be a wide open race for the NCAC title.
Good luck  to all teams this weekend. Competition should be great
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OC_SID on March 24, 2011, 10:53:07 PM
Just a little FYI:

In baseball, the NCAC, OAC, MIAA, etc. are part of the Mideast Region. There's no such thing as a Great Lakes region in baseball.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on March 25, 2011, 12:01:18 AM
Wooster, after getting thrashed by Oshkosh 17-1, leaves the south with an 8-7 record.  I was told that this is the highest number of losses that the Scots have accumulated down there in about 20 years.

Luckily, two of their wins were league games against Kenyon, which could turn out to be very important down the road.  Now comes the toughest, and most crucial, part of their schedule.  After today's game, they hit the road for Crawfordsville, a trip of 1127 miles.  They then play a league doubleheader on Saturday against Wabash followed by another of the same against OWU on Sunday.  Brutal.  As was said above, this will reveal much about what we have this season and where they might be able to go.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 25, 2011, 11:27:05 AM
Quote from: OC_SID on March 24, 2011, 10:53:07 PM
Just a little FYI:

In baseball, the NCAC, OAC, MIAA, etc. are part of the Mideast Region. There's no such thing as a Great Lakes region in baseball.

Yes, I do know this.  As I noted in my post above, I still have hoops on the brain!   :P 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 28, 2011, 12:07:02 PM
Bishops and Scots split DH on Sunday:

http://bishops.owu.edu/2010-11/ba0327.html

Second game was a 14 inning affair. I was there for the first and 7 innings of the second. It was nice to be watching baseball again.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 28, 2011, 01:02:14 PM
Quote from: ManoCooper on March 28, 2011, 12:07:02 PM
Bishops and Scots split DH on Sunday:

http://bishops.owu.edu/2010-11/ba0327.html

Second game was a 14 inning affair. I was there for the first and 7 innings of the second. It was nice to be watching baseball again.


Wooster also split with Wabash on Saturday going 2-2 on the weekend.  I think Wooster will take that coming off of a 1000+ mile bus ride back from Florida. 

Again, the story for the Scots was hitting.  Wooster was held to 3 runs or less in regulation in 3 of their 4 games last weekend.  The pitching was more than good enough to win all 4 games if the bats could have been there to back up the arms.

In other league action, Denison Swept Hiram on Saturday and split their DH with Allegheny to sit at 3-1 in the conference.  Allegheny was swept by Witt on Saturday and sit at 1-3 and Witt's DH at Wabash was PPD to April 17th so Witt is currently 2-0 in conference while Wabash is 1-1.  OWU also could only manage a split with Kenyon on Saturday and are 2-2 after the opening weekend in conference.  Kenyon finished off the weekend with a sweep of Hiram and now sit at 3-3 while Hiram dropped to 0-4.

Conference Standings after week 1:

Witt - 2-0
Denison - 3-1
Wooster - 4-2
Kenyon - 3-3
OWU - 2-2
Wabash - 1-1
Allegheny - 1-3
Hiram - 0-4
Oberlin - 0-0
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 28, 2011, 02:48:24 PM
Thanks,
I was looking for the standings on the NCAC website but did not find them.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 28, 2011, 06:38:49 PM
I would have to say coach P can live with the weekend split, although he is probably not happy with it. We'll have to see if he can adapt to the low scoring offense(small ball) versus the 3 run homer he has been used to in the past.

I would have to say the Scots need to win the NCAC auto bid to reach the regionals this year. Hopefully, the Frosh grow as the year progresses and peak at playoff time. Thus far, the pitching has been adequate and the O needs to catch up and support the arms.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 28, 2011, 07:10:35 PM
Info from another site states that Wabash pulled the "Bull Durham" rainout on Witt.

The sprinkler system was left on overnight and reduced the field to a skating rink. The worst part was Witt made the trip to Wabash before the DH was cancelled. Bad form Wabash!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on March 29, 2011, 10:49:29 AM
Old Scot,
The new NCAC scheduling format require each team to play 16 league games. If a team can  split on the road and go at least 6-2 at home, then a 10-6 record should get them in the conference tourney. The Scots pitching has been solid this year. The problem has been situational hitting. We start 5 freshman who have shown improvement at the plate. I would venture a guess that Woo has stranded more RISP than almost any team in D3. We are taking way too many first pitch fastballs then seeing off speed stuff the rest of the count. However, this team is slowly making progress. And remember, it's more important to be playing well in May than April!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on March 29, 2011, 04:58:14 PM
Has the pitching been good compared to the old standards, or the new normal with the bat changes?

At the last NCAA update (3/27), Wooster was 121st in ERA. They're 214th in runs per game, so you're right that the offense is more of a problem. But I would hesitate to say the pitching has been particularly good, even outside of the 17-run game Oshkosh had.

Looks like a wide open year in the NCAC.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 29, 2011, 05:23:33 PM
MCDadde,
       I know where you are comimng from. Woo is putting the frosh on the field and it is like "sink or swim." Hopefully they can can rise to the challenge. They will only get better with time.
That being stated, Woo is a national program. The NCAC tourney bid should be a given and a strong pool C if they fail to win the auto bid.I don't think that will happen this year.( thus far performance) Pettorini expects the "standard to remain the same" no matter who is on the field.
This team has a chance to grow. I hope they do.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on March 30, 2011, 03:32:20 PM
Musky at Woo scheduled today for 4:00 has been postponed. No make-up date has been set . Woo is at B-W Thursday, at Allegheny for 2 on Saturday and then home Sunday for 2 against Hiram. I predict that the Scots will win 4 out of those 5 games. Any takers!!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 31, 2011, 10:24:26 AM
Quote from: macdade77 on March 30, 2011, 03:32:20 PM
Musky at Woo scheduled today for 4:00 has been postponed. No make-up date has been set . Woo is at B-W Thursday, at Allegheny for 2 on Saturday and then home Sunday for 2 against Hiram. I predict that the Scots will win 4 out of those 5 games. Any takers!!!!

I'd be surprised if Woo gets their game in today with B-W.  There is still a lot of snow on the ground and the field is going to be slush even if the snow melts.  I could see the Scots splitting with 'Gheny and sweeping Hiram although a 4-0 weekend would be perfectly acceptable by me...  ;D
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on March 31, 2011, 12:07:06 PM
Scots Fan,
Today's game at B-W has been postponed. No word yet on a make-up date. Curiously, Woo's baseball home page indicates that Saturday's DH at Allegheny has also been postponed. I went to the Allegheny baseball home page and there is no mention of any postponement.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wabashsid on March 31, 2011, 12:33:15 PM
To clear up any mis-information (which seems to be plenty), Wabash players, coaches, and maintenance staff spent three hours attempting to get the field ready for Sunday's game versus Wittenberg. Coach Stevens from Wabash and Coach Lewis from Wittenberg were in contact during that time, with both hopeful that the field could be made playable. Two sections of the new sprinkler system at Wabash Ballpark activated overnight (one sprinkler head down the left field line and a group down the right field line). Wabash maintenance staff shut off the entire system as soon as the problem was discovered, but a sheet of ice had formed in right field that trapped water underneath.

The ice was totally removed about 30 minutes after the scheduled start, but both coaches and the umpires agreed that the wet conditions down the right field line made the game unplayable. Both Wittenberg and Wabash had open dates on April 17 and agreed to play the games that day.

Just thought the facts of the situation might be better than "Info from another site states that Wabash pulled the "Bull Durham" rainout on Witt."
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 11, 2011, 04:02:10 PM
Current standings as of 04/04/11

http://www2.northcoast.org/sites/default/files/baseball/2010/Baseball%2004-04-2011.pdf

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 11, 2011, 04:47:32 PM
Scots win 3 of 4 over the weekend, taking 2 from the Obies and splitting with Witt. Woo stands at the top of the NCAC at 9-3  and 2nd is Witt at 7-3.

I'm a bit surprised that Woo threw their No. 1 and 2 pitchers against the Obies. I would think they would hold at least one back to face Witt??? (maybe both)

I would have to think Coach P is a little miffed with the split against Witt. Woo won game 1, 10-8 leading the whole game and broke out to a 4-0 lead in game 2 only to fall 9-8. Defensive lapses by the Scots let Witt back in the game.

Woo leads the NCAC in pitching with Witt No.2 Surprisingly, Allegheny leads in offense with Witt No.2 and the Scots at No.6. Still waiting for the young bats to back up the arms.

Scots are scheduled to play non conference games this week and will not return to NCAC play until next, with DH's against Denison and Allegheny.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on April 14, 2011, 12:21:34 PM
The Scots grabbed a 6-5 victory Wed. at W & J. Once again, Woo let a large lead slip away due to shoddy defensive play. In fact, 4/5 of W & J's runs were unearned. The team is swinging the bats better while the pitching has been consistent. Woo could be a sleeper team come tourney time if they can shore up the defense. Woo travels to B-W on Friday then hosts Case for two on Sunday.

Go Scots!
Expect Victory!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on April 23, 2011, 03:01:47 AM
Wooster loses 8-3 to Denison.

Now there are 6 teams within 1 in the lost column. Wooster, OWU and Wittenberg have 4 losses, Denison, Wabash and Allegheny have 5.

Wooster           9-4   19-12
Ohio Wesleyan   8-4   17-12
Wittenberg      8-4   19-15
Denison           8-5   16-18
Wabash          7-5   16-20
Allegheny       4-5   12-13

Anyone know why McDowell only threw to 8 batters? I mean I know he struggled but he only allowed 1 run and he's your ace that pitched you to within a game of the championship 2 years ago.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on April 23, 2011, 11:00:32 AM
forheaven,
It's a mystery why Pettorini pulled McDowell. He gave up a run in the 1st on a bloop single but got out of the inning with a double play. He walked the lead off man in the 2nd who advanced to 2b on a throwing error by the 3b. Pettorini came running out of the dugout and made the call. No effort to even talk to the kid. Several Wooster parents were very upset with the hook. It seemed like the coach was deliberately trying to embarrass his Senior pitcher. Anyone who knows Woo baseball  knows that Coach P's on field handling of players and situations leaves a lot to be desired. McDowell has always got stronger as the came goes on.He certainly deserved better than what he got from his coach on Friday. There is a growing feeling among the team that Coach P has thrown his upperclassmen under the bus in order to prepare for the future! 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on April 23, 2011, 10:07:22 PM
He's a weird one, that's for sure.

I thought maybe it was more an indication in lacking confidence that his offense could recover if McDowell gave up a few runs, but my goodness it's not like the rest of their pitching has been anything great either.

Very strange unless he was injured, which it sounds like you would know if he was.

In other news, Ohio Wesleyan sweeps Oberlin to go to 10-4 and lead the NCAC by percentage points going into their DH at Wittenberg that could be for the top seed. Wittenberg still has a DH with Hiram so you would assume they would be at 10-4 retroactively. Wooster is at Allegheny which split with Kenyon and is now 5-6, Wabash is at Kenyon.

With 7 losses it seems Denison would be out of it. Allegheny is probably out of it without a sweep against Wooster.

Any word when Wooster's game with Denison will be made up?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonBigRed on April 24, 2011, 08:07:05 PM
Here's how I have the standings, after Wittenberg and OWU split a doubleheader. (Big win in late innings for Wittenberg in the second game.)

Wooster, 9-4, .692, plays two with Allegheny on Monday. Could make up game with Denison. Worst finish would be 9-7 or .563.

OWU, 11-5, .688.

Wabash, 9-5, .643, plays two at Kenyon on Monday. Worst finish would be 9-7 or .563.

Wittenberg, 9-5, .643, plays two with Hiram on Monday. Worst finish would be 9-7 or .563.

Denison, 8-7, .533, could play makeup with Wooster. Worst finish would be 8-8. Best finish would be 9-7 or .563.

That looks like the potential for a tie for fourth spot.

Denison press release yesterday said it would try to schedule a makeup with Wooster early this week.

I'm not sure how the tiebreakers work, but I assume they start with head-to-head match-ups:
   Denison lost series to Wabash.
   Denison split series with Wittenberg.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 24, 2011, 08:13:26 PM
Here you go...

1. Head-to-Head Competition (NCAC play only).
2. Record versus opponents above the tied teams in the standings.
3. Record versus the teams below the tied teams in the standings in descending order.
4. Coin flip.

Should three or more teams be tied, the same procedure shall be followed until one team proves a better or worse record than the others. The process shall than be repeated until the field is complete.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on April 24, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on April 24, 2011, 08:13:26 PM
Here you go...

1. Head-to-Head Competition (NCAC play only).
2. Record versus opponents above the tied teams in the standings.
3. Record versus the teams below the tied teams in the standings in descending order.
4. Coin flip.

Should three or more teams be tied, the same procedure shall be followed until one team proves a better or worse record than the others. The process shall than be repeated until the field is complete.


So almost certainly, Wittenberg will also be 11-5.
OWU swept Allegheny, Hiram and Oberlin
Witt swept Allegheny, Kenyon and presumably Hiram.
So the tiebreak would come down to which of Oberlin and Kenyon finishes higher in the standings? Would that also be subject to tiebreak (that is, Oberlin swept Kenyon so would that tie, if it occurred, be broken in the Witt/OWU tiebreaker?)

Wooster swept Hiram, Oberlin and Kenyon so far. Obviously if they win their last 3, they're the top seed. A tiebreak could be bad for them though since it would mean either splitting with Allegheny or getting swept by Denison.

Wabash swept Denison and got swept by Allegheny. So if they sweep Kenyon to go to 11-5 and forge a probable 3-way and possible 4-way tie, they could win it by virtue of their sweep of Denison.

Allegheny could come up on the rail with the games they have left. If they win out, they would be guaranteed the 4 seed over Wooster.

Funny that Wooster controls its own destiny for 1st, but could also not even finish in the top 4.

The last two paragraphs is really all that matters, because this is a one-bid league this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonBigRed on April 24, 2011, 11:22:25 PM
Yes, I neglected Allegheny. Looking at its schedule:

Allegheny, 5-6, .455, plays two with Wooster on Monday, has yet to play two against Hiram, one against Oberlin. Best finish would be 10-6, .625. And of course, it's another team with the potential to finish 9-7.

I don't see anything on Allegheny's schedule about the makeups with Hiram and Oberlin.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonBigRed on April 25, 2011, 08:13:17 PM
I guess that's it for Allegheny and Denison. Rain has ended the season.

The NCAC site says:

QuoteThe field is set for this weekend's 2011 NCAC Baseball Tournament at VA Memorial Stadium in Chillicothe, Ohio. Due to extreme weather conditions throughout the region during the 2011 NCAC baseball season, not all teams were able to complete their regular season schedules.

Two-time defending NCAC champion Wooster (9-4, 19-12) has earned the No. 1 seed and will take on No. 4 seed Wittenberg (9-5, 20-16) on Thursday afternoon at 4:00 p.m., while No. 2 seed Ohio Wesleyan (11-5, 21-13) will play No. 3 seed Wabash (9-5, 18-20) at 8:00 p.m. on Thursday evening.

http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/weeklyrelease/4-25-11

(By the way, have you noticed that if you Google NCAC baseball, it takes you to a site with only last year's stats: http://www.northcoast.org/ba/ba.html. Someone should be able to fix that.)

There is no joy in Granville.

Denison's year ends 16-20 (8-7), the first losing season and fewest wins for the Big Red since 2000 (way back in Craddock's first season).

April's record, 5-10.

This year's conference games followed this frustrating course: W-W-L-W-W-L-W-L-W-L-W-L-W-L-L. Mostly because of inconsistent pitching, perhaps.

The best hitter will return (Forgatch, now a junior). The seniors graduating include Krieger, who made big RBI contributions, and two of the better starting pitchers (Smith and McOsker).

Let's hope the young arms develop.
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Post by: forheavendial4999 on April 26, 2011, 12:42:53 AM
I'm sorry, that's trash. I feel bad for Allegheny, and for Wittenberg who almost certainly would have gotten 2 more wins.

I am hardly ever surprised by how unprofessional things are done in the NCAC, but this is really surprising.

What you get when you have the conference tournament like 3 weeks before you need to though. One bad idea begets another.

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Post by: old scot on April 26, 2011, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on April 26, 2011, 12:42:53 AM
I'm sorry, that's trash. I feel bad for Allegheny, and for Wittenberg who almost certainly would have gotten 2 more wins.

I am hardly ever surprised by how unprofessional things are done in the NCAC, but this is really surprising.

What you get when you have the conference tournament like 3 weeks before you need to though. One bad idea begets another.



I think you mean Denison and Allegheny as Witt is one of the four teams in. I agree,  this is a terrible way to end the season. Maybe a scheduling conflict since the conference tourney is played at a neutral site? Since the NCAC has changed the coference play,( round robin vs the east -west division) maybe the first seeded team should host. At least this could extend the regular season if need be.
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Post by: forheavendial4999 on April 26, 2011, 11:06:50 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 26, 2011, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on April 26, 2011, 12:42:53 AM
I'm sorry, that's trash. I feel bad for Allegheny, and for Wittenberg who almost certainly would have gotten 2 more wins.

I am hardly ever surprised by how unprofessional things are done in the NCAC, but this is really surprising.

What you get when you have the conference tournament like 3 weeks before you need to though. One bad idea begets another.



I think you mean Denison and Allegheny as Witt is one of the four teams in. I agree,  this is a terrible way to end the season. Maybe a scheduling conflict since the conference tourney is played at a neutral site? Since the NCAC has changed the coference play,( round robin vs the east -west division) maybe the first seeded team should host. At least this could extend the regular season if need be.

Denison was very unlikely to make it anyway. Wittenberg could have been the 1 seed. I don't think Wooster would have gone 3-0 to finish.

The saving grace for Witt at least is that seeding means basically nothing in this tournament.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 26, 2011, 02:55:53 PM
I agree, I would have liked to see more of the games played. But it is what it is. Good luck to all the teams in the tournament.

How many teams schedule non conference games after the tournament? seems a shame to end your season so soon.
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Post by: macdade77 on April 27, 2011, 09:11:10 PM
The North Coast Athletic Conference tourney begins Thursday afternoon at Veterans Field in Chillicothe. Woo vs. Witt at 4:00 and OWU vs. Wabash at 8:00. This is the first time in awhile there is no clear cut favorite in the field!
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Post by: Rolliedogg on April 28, 2011, 12:44:59 PM
Just wanted to express my thoughts on how the season ended.  Allegheny rescheduled its DH with Wooster for Monday at Mercyhurst College that has a turf field.  Wooster declined to play.  The reason given is that their players needed to go to class.  The real reason - if they would have lost both games to Allegheny they would not have qualified for the playoffs.  I do not understand how a school can refuse to play and be rewarded with a playoff spot.  Wooster should be ashamed.
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Post by: woosterbooster on April 28, 2011, 06:39:21 PM
Quote from: macdade77 on April 23, 2011, 11:00:32 AM
forheaven,
It's a mystery why Pettorini pulled McDowell. He gave up a run in the 1st on a bloop single but got out of the inning with a double play. He walked the lead off man in the 2nd who advanced to 2b on a throwing error by the 3b. Pettorini came running out of the dugout and made the call. No effort to even talk to the kid. Several Wooster parents were very upset with the hook. It seemed like the coach was deliberately trying to embarrass his Senior pitcher. Anyone who knows Woo baseball  knows that Coach P's on field handling of players and situations leaves a lot to be desired. McDowell has always got stronger as the came goes on.He certainly deserved better than what he got from his coach on Friday. There is a growing feeling among the team that Coach P has thrown his upperclassmen under the bus in order to prepare for the future! 

You know, I was standing to the left of the Wooster dugout when this happened, which, by the way, was right after McDowell was slow off the mound to a bunt, which led to the throwing error.  There was a Wooster fan, and I suspect that it was Justin McDowell's father, who totally went off when his son was pulled.  Yelling, swearing.  Saying much what you've said here.  I wonder, are you his dad?  If so, not well played.

As to the actual reason why McDowell was pulled, I'm reminded of this exchange between former Baltimore Oriole pitcher Ross Grimsley and manager Earl Weaver:

Grimsley, storming into Weaver's office: "You're shafting me, you're shafting me!"
Weaver: "How am I doing that, Ross?"
Grimsley: "You're yanking me earlier than any of the other pitchers!"
Weaver: "Do you know why that is, Ross? It's 'cause I think they can get the next man out and I don't think you can."

By the say, Pettorini stuck with McDowell today.  He gave up five runs on seven hits in three innings.  Should he have stuck with him longer?
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Post by: woosterbooster on April 28, 2011, 06:40:42 PM
Quote from: Rolliedogg on April 28, 2011, 12:44:59 PM
Just wanted to express my thoughts on how the season ended.  Allegheny rescheduled its DH with Wooster for Monday at Mercyhurst College that has a turf field.  Wooster declined to play.  The reason given is that their players needed to go to class.  The real reason - if they would have lost both games to Allegheny they would not have qualified for the playoffs.  I do not understand how a school can refuse to play and be rewarded with a playoff spot.  Wooster should be ashamed.

They should be, if this is the way it went down.  The Wooster Daily Record had it very differently.  I have no idea what the truth is, but I really would like to know.
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Post by: old scot on April 28, 2011, 11:15:11 PM
What a come back for the Scot!!!!!! Down 10-1 after 4 1/2 and pull out a 17-13 win. Good stuff, keep the moo!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: forheavendial4999 on April 29, 2011, 02:23:59 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 28, 2011, 06:39:21 PM
Quote from: macdade77 on April 23, 2011, 11:00:32 AM
forheaven,
It's a mystery why Pettorini pulled McDowell. He gave up a run in the 1st on a bloop single but got out of the inning with a double play. He walked the lead off man in the 2nd who advanced to 2b on a throwing error by the 3b. Pettorini came running out of the dugout and made the call. No effort to even talk to the kid. Several Wooster parents were very upset with the hook. It seemed like the coach was deliberately trying to embarrass his Senior pitcher. Anyone who knows Woo baseball  knows that Coach P's on field handling of players and situations leaves a lot to be desired. McDowell has always got stronger as the came goes on.He certainly deserved better than what he got from his coach on Friday. There is a growing feeling among the team that Coach P has thrown his upperclassmen under the bus in order to prepare for the future! 
By the say, Pettorini stuck with McDowell today.  He gave up five runs on seven hits in three innings.  Should he have stuck with him longer?

Seeing the pitching line for the other guys, quite possibly. :)

So I guess the operable question might be what has happened to him. Did Pettorini use of him as a sophomore have a lasting effect? Or was that a mirage to begin with? Seems like he hasn't been the same since.
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Post by: Joe Wally on April 29, 2011, 08:59:00 AM
Holy Cow!  I had no idea there was this much drama in NCAC baseball.  Looks like I need to attend more games.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 29, 2011, 01:43:01 PM
                               1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9    R  H  E
College of Wooster  0 0  1  1  0 - - - -              2 6 2
Wabash College       0 0  0  0  - - - - -               0 2 2

Bottom of 5.



 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 29, 2011, 01:43:42 PM
Holm just hommered to Center field.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 29, 2011, 01:51:58 PM
Live stats:
http://www.wabash.edu/sports/docs/baseballstats/livestats/xlive.htm
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 29, 2011, 03:27:13 PM
Congratulations to the Little Giants. They are going to the NCAC championship. They beat Wooster 3-2.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 29, 2011, 10:27:45 PM
Congrats Wesleyan. Wesleyan beats Wooster 10 to 2.
Little giants vs. The battling Bishops saturday at 1:00 PM
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Post by: mideastfan2 on April 30, 2011, 05:33:26 PM
Congrats to Wabash on punching their ticket to the Regionals....I'm guessing the NCAC will only get one team in this year; Wooster will have to hope those young guys come to play next year, and if so, they'll be a hndafull once again.
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Post by: woosterbooster on May 01, 2011, 10:27:55 AM
Congrats, Wabash, and good luck in the regional.  Maybe in three weeks time, when it occurs, this monsoon will be over and I can consider making the trip to Marietta.  Any good golf courses down there?
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Post by: Joe Wally on May 01, 2011, 12:19:43 PM
Yea! Rah!  Litte Giants!!!! ;D
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Post by: EttaFan1 on May 04, 2011, 08:18:45 AM
How big is the double header between Wooster and Heidelberg today for Wooster's pool C chances?   

Looks to be a huge matchup with a lot at stake for Wooster.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Post by: countyroad on May 04, 2011, 09:40:07 AM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 04, 2011, 08:18:45 AM
How big is the double header between Wooster and Heidelberg today for Wooster's pool C chances?   

Looks to be a huge matchup with a lot at stake for Wooster.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I'm pretty sure Wooster's pool C chances are close to zero.  It's more about some pride than anything.
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Post by: old scot on May 04, 2011, 08:54:46 PM
Woo gets swept by the Berg. Scots had no chance at a pool C bid prior to todays game. It really was a matter of pride.

My take on the Scots season, Pitching was O.K.  Some of the big guns fell off as the season went along.

The young guys (offense) seemed to come around during the season but, as a group they failed to put it together at the same time.

Defensively, really bad, putting pressure on the pitchers. As a team, too many KO's. Not putting the ball in play lets the opponents defense off the hook.


Re-build and re-load for next year. Seniors, thanks for memories and good luck in your future.
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Post by: macdade77 on May 11, 2011, 04:52:12 PM
Wooster Booster,
I haven't been on here in some time but I'd like to respond to your comment s regarding Justin McDowell and the Denison game. I realize in advance the futility of trying to argue with someone whose knowledge of baseball is sorely lacking. If you were really watching the play in question, The 3b called for the bunt but couldn't get there. So JM tried to but couldn't make the play. Pettorini comes out on a dead sprint, unwilling to listen to JM's explanation and then makes the call to the bullpen. At this point, JM had surrendered only one earned run! The subsequent stream of relievers gave up 8 earned runs... Great call by Coach P. For four years, I watched as Pettorini swore at and embarrassed my son as well as other players. No one ever openly said a word in criticism. Well, by the Denison incident described above, I'd had enough! I reserve the right to say what I want to whoever I want unless/until  someone is man enough to shut me up! I don't know who you are but your cheap shot at my son and I in the anonymity of cyberspace, reveals your cowardice!! Coach P cost us several games this year with questionable substitutions and poor game management!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 11, 2011, 07:41:39 PM
macdade

Sorry to hear about the bad blood in your son's senior year.  All I could do is follow the team on the web this year so I never got to see them play in person.  This was a tough season I'm sure for JD being a senior.  I, nor will any other Wooster fan, forget the magic run they had to the championship series 2 years ago and JD's contributions to the program.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 15, 2011, 08:01:12 PM
Quote from: macdade77 on May 11, 2011, 04:52:12 PM
It's a mystery why Pettorini pulled McDowell. He gave up a run in the 1st on a bloop single but got out of the inning with a double play. He walked the lead off man in the 2nd who advanced to 2b on a throwing error by the 3b. Pettorini came running out of the dugout and made the call. No effort to even talk to the kid. Several Wooster parents were very upset with the hook. It seemed like the coach was deliberately trying to embarrass his Senior pitcher. Anyone who knows Woo baseball  knows that Coach P's on field handling of players and situations leaves a lot to be desired. McDowell has always got stronger as the came goes on.He certainly deserved better than what he got from his coach on Friday. There is a growing feeling among the team that Coach P has thrown his upperclassmen under the bus in order to prepare for the future!

Wooster Booster,
I haven't been on here in some time but I'd like to respond to your comment s regarding Justin McDowell and the Denison game. I realize in advance the futility of trying to argue with someone whose knowledge of baseball is sorely lacking. If you were really watching the play in question, The 3b called for the bunt but couldn't get there. So JM tried to but couldn't make the play. Pettorini comes out on a dead sprint, unwilling to listen to JM's explanation and then makes the call to the bullpen. At this point, JM had surrendered only one earned run! The subsequent stream of relievers gave up 8 earned runs... Great call by Coach P. For four years, I watched as Pettorini swore at and embarrassed my son as well as other players. No one ever openly said a word in criticism. Well, by the Denison incident described above, I'd had enough! I reserve the right to say what I want to whoever I want unless/until  someone is man enough to shut me up! I don't know who you are but your cheap shot at my son and I in the anonymity of cyberspace, reveals your cowardice!! Coach P cost us several games this year with questionable substitutions and poor game management!

Mr. McDowell -

I've included both your original post and your follow-up within the above quotes.

First of all, in your initial post, you yourself certainly seemed to desire anonymity.  You gave no indication that you were the father of the player in question.  You said that "several Wooster parents were very upset with the hook," but you never mentioned that you were one of them.  You referred to your son simply as McDowell, which seems to indicate that you were a Wooster fan, not a relative, who was upset with Coach Pettorini's decision.

Secondly, my remarks were not cheap shots at all.  I was commenting on two things.  First, that Coach Pettorini's choice to remove your son was surely a matter of baseball judgement rather than something personal.  I'm sure that he felt, at that time, rightly or wrongly, that he had a better chance to win the ballgame with another pitcher on the mound.  It didn't work out, but that's baseball, that's the way it goes.  That game, at that time, meant something, and he was certainly going to do his best to win it. 

If you think, based upon my take on that play and the decision to remove the pitcher, that I know nothing about baseball, that's your opinion.  I don't believe that to be true, but that's neither here nor there.  My other point is that I consider it bad form for a parent to come on here and blast a coach about an issue such as playing time.  As a former coach, I can tell you straight out, and you already know this, that that subject should be discussed with the coach in person.  By the players, if at all.  As for the bad language, that's another story.  He uses it, I know, and it's an issue.  But, geeze, is this the place for a parent to trash a coach?  I don't think so.

My name is Jack Wood and I've been a fan of Wooster sports, and their players, including your son, for 17 years.
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Post by: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2011, 09:10:45 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 15, 2011, 08:01:12 PM
  My other point is that I consider it bad form for a parent to come on here and blast a coach about an issue such as playing time.  As a former coach, I can tell you straight out, and you already know this, that that subject should be discussed with the coach in person.  By the players, if at all. 


+1 Mr. Wood
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Post by: Joe Wally on May 18, 2011, 06:57:20 PM
Wabash lose to Shennandoah 4-0.  Eight strong innings pitched by Andy Swart five strike outs and only one earned run.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 19, 2011, 03:41:37 PM
Wabash Beats CNU 9-3. Good Job Wabash!!! Some posters in the south region were claiming Wabash and Webster would be 2 and done.
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Post by: Joe Wally on May 20, 2011, 07:56:05 AM
Wabash v. Salisbury Seagulls this afternoon.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 20, 2011, 07:55:02 PM
Congratulations on a good season Wabash!
Wbvash loses to Salisbury 5-7.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Joe Wally on May 21, 2011, 04:03:08 PM
Hell of a season, Little Giants!  Well Done!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 25, 2011, 04:34:25 PM
Has anybody heard wether the NCAC will go back to divisions next year ot not? I liked the round robin. It was admittedly tougher this spring with all the rain.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on May 26, 2011, 12:16:31 AM
Boy, I hope not.  The current system is much better IMO.  Divisions should be reserved for instances where geography prevents a round robin format. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 27, 2011, 09:17:53 AM
For the NCAC I think the biggest issue is the distance between Allegheny and Wabash. With Depauw joing next year that makes quite a distance.

Still hoping they keep round robin. I think that gets the best teams to the playoffs.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 27, 2011, 09:23:57 PM
My son just made his decision the other day. I want to thank all the coaches who recruoied him. All of them are very good people. He will be going to Ohio Wesleyan.
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Post by: Joe Wally on May 27, 2011, 09:48:16 PM
Congratulations to you and your son, Mano.
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Post by: wallyworld12 on June 17, 2011, 09:02:17 AM
Not exactly sure what the conference will be doing next season, but the word on the street is that we're going back to divisions. I think there are plenty of good points on both sides of the debate...

Round-Robin....I think this certainly gives us the best 4 teams playing for a conference championship and ensures that the NCAC West gets it's fair share of teams vying for the automatic bid. For a LONG TIME it had been a hard fight to get the West's two spots while the East was Wooster and whoever might be having a good year.

Divisions...travel is a big reason for the folks in Ohio, though they seem to forget that for Wabash (and now DePauw) every conference game involves a lot of travel....Furthermore, and we saw this displayed when Wabash and OWU met up in the regular season, the round-robin schedule often pitted 3 & 4 pitchers against one another and led to runs being scored like crazy. In that OWU series Wabash lost game one 21-10 and won game two 22-9. UGLY.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 17, 2011, 09:28:12 AM
thanks for the update. I certainlly can see both view points. I wonder what the players would prefer? I know I enjoyed the round robin last season but I was not the one doing all the traveling.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on June 17, 2011, 04:18:10 PM
Quote from: wallyworld12 on June 17, 2011, 09:02:17 AM
Not exactly sure what the conference will be doing next season, but the word on the street is that we're going back to divisions. I think there are plenty of good points on both sides of the debate...

Round-Robin....I think this certainly gives us the best 4 teams playing for a conference championship and ensures that the NCAC West gets it's fair share of teams vying for the automatic bid. For a LONG TIME it had been a hard fight to get the West's two spots while the East was Wooster and whoever might be having a good year.

Divisions...travel is a big reason for the folks in Ohio, though they seem to forget that for Wabash (and now DePauw) every conference game involves a lot of travel....Furthermore, and we saw this displayed when Wabash and OWU met up in the regular season, the round-robin schedule often pitted 3 & 4 pitchers against one another and led to runs being scored like crazy. In that OWU series Wabash lost game one 21-10 and won game two 22-9. UGLY.

I don't see how playing 4 conference games in 2 days would be a better scenario for pitching depth?  I understand the travel issue.  These aren't huge schools with massive budgets for sports.  But from a purely competitive standpoint I like round robin.  It's the best way to reward the best teams each year with a conference tourney spot. 
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Post by: wallyworld12 on June 17, 2011, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on June 17, 2011, 04:18:10 PM
Quote from: wallyworld12 on June 17, 2011, 09:02:17 AM
Not exactly sure what the conference will be doing next season, but the word on the street is that we're going back to divisions. I think there are plenty of good points on both sides of the debate...

Round-Robin....I think this certainly gives us the best 4 teams playing for a conference championship and ensures that the NCAC West gets it's fair share of teams vying for the automatic bid. For a LONG TIME it had been a hard fight to get the West's two spots while the East was Wooster and whoever might be having a good year.

Divisions...travel is a big reason for the folks in Ohio, though they seem to forget that for Wabash (and now DePauw) every conference game involves a lot of travel....Furthermore, and we saw this displayed when Wabash and OWU met up in the regular season, the round-robin schedule often pitted 3 & 4 pitchers against one another and led to runs being scored like crazy. In that OWU series Wabash lost game one 21-10 and won game two 22-9. UGLY.

I don't see how playing 4 conference games in 2 days would be a better scenario for pitching depth?  I understand the travel issue.  These aren't huge schools with massive budgets for sports.  But from a purely competitive standpoint I like round robin.  It's the best way to reward the best teams each year with a conference tourney spot. 

The point that I was trying to make is that the round robin schedule made each 2 game series important, so you had games that you needed to win on Sunday with pitchers who are not your studs. If you are playing a 4 game set like in the divisional model, you have a greater margin for error in those games.

Not saying that I like the divisional model better, just trying to tease out all sides of the issue.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on June 18, 2011, 11:49:02 AM
I like the 2011 format better.

I also expect that eventually Wabash will join the HCAC now that DePauw and Rose-Hulman are out of the SCAC.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 18, 2011, 01:58:07 PM
Heaven, why would Wabash leave the NCAC? Depauw is a great rival. Wasn't Wabash in the HCAC before joining the NCAC?
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Post by: wallyworld12 on June 19, 2011, 11:43:14 AM
BishopDad is right. Wabash is NOT going to be leaving the NCAC anytime soon with DePauw joining the conference next year. That would make absolutely no sense at this point. Wabash was in the HCAC, the now defunct ICAC, and was an Independent. There are no signs we are changing conferences any time soon.
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Post by: DelawareCityMan on June 20, 2011, 01:16:25 PM
If they go back to the Division format for 2012, I wonder if any thought would be given to re-setting the Divisions.  Instead of East and West, go with Northwest and Southeast.  The Northwest would be Depaw, Wabash, Kenyon, Oberlin, & Hiram, while in the Southeast you would have Wittenberg, Ohio Wesleyan, Denison, Wooster, and Alleghenny.  That would make both Divisions have about the same distance from their farthest two teams so travel would be about equal, and if you look at team strength, it would be a little more balanced, though you'd still have Wooster, Denison, Ohio Wesleyan, and Wittenberg all in the same group, and looking at strength, the other Division's strength would be Wabash, Depaw, and maybe Kenyon/Oberlin.  Extending the season two weeks and going Round-Robin is still the best format for equality.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 20, 2011, 05:03:14 PM
That would be more balanced. You would most likley get the best 4 out of that allignment. Not sure you could get enough schools to agree though. As it is now Wooster is always tops in the east with the second rotating between several teams. That gives tosee teams in the east not named Wooster, at least a shotat the NCAC tourney. Can somebody tell me the reason the NCAC plays their tourney so early. Is the only earlier tourney the UAA.
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Post by: wally_wabash on July 01, 2011, 03:53:23 PM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on June 18, 2011, 11:49:02 AM
I like the 2011 format better.

I also expect that eventually Wabash will join the HCAC now that DePauw and Rose-Hulman are out of the SCAC.

I don't think the old ICAC schools that are now the core of the HCAC would have DePauw back even if DePauw begged.  The way DePauw left and blew up what was a really nice intrastate league wasn't exactly graceful.  Besides, I think DePauw has now aligned themselves geographically and philosophically with as close to a group of peer institutions as they are going to find.  It's a good fit...a better fit than the HCAC for sure (which is why they splintered off back in '98 in the first place). 

As for round robins vs. divisions...I would expect the league to return to divisional play, but I do wish they'd get away from the four game weekend series.   It's big boy baseball now...let's play three 9 inning games over the weekends and call it good.  The biggest obstacle with these schedules is that the spring season, is really condensed down, especially with baseball where the league is holding a conference tournament two full weeks before the national tournament, and especially especially with typical Ohio Valley spring weather.  It's a lot of baseball to try and get in anyway, then when you factor in that these kids should probably also go to class and then work around inevitable rain, it's tough to plan on a full round robin. 

I would like to see the league push that conference tournament back...at the very least it provides an extra week to get some postponed games played and on the books. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 02, 2011, 11:07:40 PM
This has alreadybeen mentioned on the NCAC Football board. I will mention it hear for the baseball fans. Welcome to Depauw on their first official day in the NCAC. Happy to have you. Good luck to Jake and his boys. Just not too much.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on July 11, 2011, 03:47:19 PM
This is your 2012 baseball schedule. (http://www2.northcoast.org/sites/default/files/baseball/Baseball%202012%20-%20divisions%205-11.pdf)

A couple of things to notice:

- They are back to divisions as you probably would have guessed. 

- They are calling for the weekend series to consist of one 7-inning game and one 9-inning game...each day.  Huh?  I'm not really sure I get that.  Anybody have a thought on this? 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 11, 2011, 08:55:47 PM
Old eyes did not see the text was a hyper link ::) sorry....

http://www2.northcoast.org/sites/default/files/baseball/Baseball%202012%20-%20divisions%205-11.pdf

Quote
Schedule consists of one 7-inning contest and one
9-inning contest each day (first game of day is 7
innings. If first game of the day goes into extra
innings, second game becomes a 7-inning game.)

Looks like it is a double header each day. First game 7 innings second is nine.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on July 12, 2011, 10:38:37 AM
Wooster's two home NCAC series are in March ... great.  There's nothing better than watching baseball when there's still piled up.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DelawareCityMan on July 29, 2011, 11:11:39 AM
Have a feeling that there could be some VERY LONG Sunday afternoons being spent at NCAC diamonds.  I like the DH's being 7 and 9, ala OAC Doubleheaders, but just wish we were still doing it in last years' Round Robin format.  With the exception of DePauw and Wabash, who's closest NCAC oppoenents, other than each other, are Witt and OWU, would have to deal with some travel issues, like Allegheny would on the other side of the league, BUT, if a weekday NCAC League DH was allowed, then you could easily free up weekend for that traveling for the farther away contests.  Everyone else is fairly close enough to do the mid-week League contests.  Another aspect would be less overnight expenses for motels and the ability to make-up rainouts the next day if the weather permitted...

Just a few thoughts to improve the league....Though I do like the idea that Wooster is playing ALL their league contests up north and none during their Spring Trip....
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 25, 2011, 09:10:17 AM
Like the new format of the site. Will have to get used to it though.

Anyway Kenyon released its 2012 Media guide:

http://teamguides.kenyon.edu/x38526.xml

QuoteEntering the 2012 season, the Kenyon College baseball roster features only two seniors with significant experience on the diamond, but don't mistake the Lords for an untested squad. Several members of the talented rising sophomore and junior classes filled key roles in 2011 and are ready to apply the lessons learned to push Kenyon toward the top of the North Coast Athletic Conference standings.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 03, 2011, 08:45:01 AM
Got to watch some Baseball yesterday. OWU had the Red and Black serires over the weekend. Saturday was rained out. They played 5 3 inning games on Sunday.

Red eeked out the series win. Three games to five. Not sure how the teams were divided up so not sure that that is telling.

Alumni game next weekend.

Any news from any of the other NCAC fall ball?

How did Wooster do against Walsh?

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Gramps on October 05, 2011, 02:10:21 AM
Word heard from Heidelberg is that the rains caused the field to be flooded and that "Fall Ball" was cancelled.  Can anyone clarify this for me?  We will be at THE BERG  Oct. 16th for the 2011 Awards Banquet and normally. the last game of Black vs Orange  is played that day. 
I'd also like to know how other teams have done in Fall Ball.  It would give a good insight as to what to expect for the 2012 season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on October 07, 2011, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: Gramps on October 05, 2011, 02:10:21 AM
Word heard from Heidelberg is that the rains caused the field to be flooded and that "Fall Ball" was cancelled.  Can anyone clarify this for me?  We will be at THE BERG  Oct. 16th for the 2011 Awards Banquet and normally. the last game of Black vs Orange  is played that day. 
I'd also like to know how other teams have done in Fall Ball.  It would give a good insight as to what to expect for the 2012 season.
Fall Ball not cancelled Gramps, just pushed back a week. Big day on Sunday with 2 9 inning DH's on tap. One squad playing at Adrian and the other playing at Sienna Heights.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Gramps on October 07, 2011, 10:12:37 PM
Quote from: motorman on October 07, 2011, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: Gramps on October 05, 2011, 02:10:21 AM
Word heard from Heidelberg is that the rains caused the field to be flooded and that "Fall Ball" was cancelled.  Can anyone clarify this for me?  We will be at THE BERG  Oct. 16th for the 2011 Awards Banquet and normally. the last game of Black vs Orange  is played that day. 
I'd also like to know how other teams have done in Fall Ball.  It would give a good insight as to what to expect for the 2012 season.
Fall Ball not cancelled Gramps, just pushed back a week. Big day on Sunday with 2 9 inning DH's on tap. One squad playing at Adrian and the other playing at Sienna Heights.
Thanks for the update motorman, glad that the rumor that I heard was just that, a rumor.  Good Luck to THE BERG on Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 15, 2011, 09:57:51 AM
The bishops schedule has been out for a while. This does not include there florida trip:

http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball (http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball)

Here is the Schedule for the Snowbird classic:

http://www.snowbirdbaseball.com/2010-2011-Season/sbc-2012-schedule.php
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 20, 2011, 12:48:06 PM
I have been looking at NCAC schedules. I was looking at Oberlin today.
http://www.goyeo.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball& (http://www.goyeo.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball&)

Looks like they are playing 28 games. Does anybody know if they do a spring trip? Looks like they take their spring trip sometime between 03-18 and 03-31. Anybody know where they are going?

Looks like they have Concordia and D'youville coming to town play.

2012 Roster is also out. No Freshman listed at this time.

Roster (http://www.goyeo.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball&)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 11, 2012, 03:40:23 PM
No real surprise, but No NCAC teams are mentioned in collegiate Baseballs pre-season top 25. Wooster is mentioned as another top team.

http://www.baseballnews.com/polls/divIII/currentpolldiviii.htm (http://www.baseballnews.com/polls/divIII/currentpolldiviii.htm)

What do the other posters think. Any chances of any of this years teams climbing into the top 25?

Of course I hope OWU does, They have quite a few of their pitchers back, the only pitchers they lost with any real innings is Eric Livingston who who started 7 games/42 innings with a 2.95 ERA. The rest of the pitchers with significant time will be Jr. and sophomores. They lose only 2 Position players with significant playing time in Zach Frentsos and Scott wise.

What does everybody think? Let the season begin.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on January 24, 2012, 07:56:43 AM
Wooster has posted their 2012 schedule.

http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule (http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule)

I'm glad to see they have scheduled to play Marietta in Florida. That greatly reduces the chance of a weather cancellation. When the game was scheduled for later in the year up in Ohio it always seemed to be impacted by weather. It is too bad folks in Ohio will not have a shot to see the game however, unless you travel to Florida. I had forgot that Marietta was no longer doing their spring trip to Texas.

Does anyone know if plans to update (lights, permanent seating, etc.) Art Murry field are part of CoW's master plan?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DUBBALL15 on January 24, 2012, 10:55:06 AM
Denison's Schedule is up too:

http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule

Looks like a tough one on their spring trip. 

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on January 24, 2012, 04:29:38 PM
The D3.com poll is posted today. Was pretty surprised no NCAC team even received a vote.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 25, 2012, 10:28:50 AM
Quote from: DUBBALL15 on January 24, 2012, 10:55:06 AM
Denison's Schedule is up too:

http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/schedule

Looks like a tough one on their spring trip.
Hiedelburg once and Marietta twice. Looks like it should really help your SOS. Good luck against those teams. NCAC teams need to win those types of match ups.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 25, 2012, 10:30:59 AM
Quote from: motorman on January 24, 2012, 04:29:38 PM
The D3.com poll is posted today. Was pretty surprised no NCAC team even received a vote.

Not surprised, very similar to how last year ended up. Fortunately it is more important were you finish in the polls as opposed to were you are in preseason.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 28, 2012, 08:58:39 PM
I just got a first glance at the owu roster. It is not on the web yet, but it is still a thrill to see his name on a college roster. First game is February 25 against Bluffton.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 07, 2012, 03:32:14 PM
All but one school has released their 2012 Rosters:

Kenyon (http://athletics.kenyon.edu/x4162.xml)
Hiram (http://www.hiram.edu/athletics/menssports/baseball/roster.html)
Oberlin (http://www.goyeo.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball&l)
Denison (http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/roster)
Depauw (http://www.depauw.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/roster/2012/)
Wabash (http://sports.wabash.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball)
Wittenburg (http://www4.wittenberg.edu/news/athletics/baseball/roster12.html)
Ohio Wesleyan (http://www.battlingbishops.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball)
Wooster (http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/roster)
Still waiting on Allegheny. Just a few more weeks till the first games.











Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 17, 2012, 10:30:46 AM
First NCAC action of the season today, Kenyon at Virginia Intermont. Game starts at 6 PM.

Live Stats: http://www.dakstats.com/websync/Pages/Webcasts.aspx?association=10

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on February 23, 2012, 05:32:57 PM
Bishopleftiesdad, are you going to Florida? If you are you will have a blast. We went last year and my son was hurt and didn't even pitch down there and we still had fun. Of course it helped when we were the #1 team in the country and went undefeated in Florida. If you will be there maybe I'll stop over when you play Heidelberg to say hi.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 24, 2012, 09:33:00 AM
I wish, but not this year. We have a younger son who is also involved in Baseball and will be involved in baseball related activities. He is already missing some baseball due to wrestling, he qualified for districts and will try to qualify for states. We don't want him to miss too much. Will you be in Tiffin when we come up to play on 3/21. I plan on attending that one. I would really like to meet you then.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on February 25, 2012, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 24, 2012, 09:33:00 AM
I wish, but not this year. We have a younger son who is also involved in Baseball and will be involved in baseball related activities. He is already missing some baseball due to wrestling, he qualified for districts and will try to qualify for states. We don't want him to miss too much. Will you be in Tiffin when we come up to play on 3/21. I plan on attending that one. I would really like to meet you then.
I probably won't be at the game in Tiffin. We live in Canton and it's hard to get off work early enough to get up there for the weekday games. Maybe if my son pitches I'll make an effort to get there.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 27, 2012, 09:36:41 AM
OWU vs Blufton at Chilcothe

Ohio Wesleyan 6, Bluffton 5
Ohio Wesleyan 7, Bluffton 1

http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2012/2/25/BA_02252012.aspx?path=baseball

Bishops looked pretty good. It was a cold day to play baseball.

Bishops season preview.

http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2012/2/24/BA_2012preview2.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 28, 2012, 12:34:51 PM
March 15th should be interesting:

COLLEGE OF WOOSTER  VS. MARIETTA COLLEGE down in Florida at the Snowbird Classic. Any predictions?

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2012, 10:00:08 AM
Wabash picked to win the conference in the NCAC coaches poll:

http://www2.northcoast.org/sites/default/files/baseball/2012NCACBaseballPoll.pdf

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 02, 2012, 12:59:30 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but how is DePauw usually?  Is this where they'll probably be most years? 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2012, 01:33:15 PM
Did son research on them,when my son was being recruited. They were previously in the SCAC and usually did pretty well. Last year they never cracked the top 25 but where in the also receiving votes at least once.

They will make the west division of the NCAC even tougher. I talked to Jake Martin the coach several times and was very impressed. He played baseball at Wabash (go Figure) and should do a good job of recruiting. The problem with Depauw on the SCAC is the other teams could start so much earlier so bye the time they would get into League play the southern teamd would have had a good number of games and practices outside, while Depauw was just getting outside and may have played some games on a spring trip or in the cold.

I think in a few years, if not right a way they will be competing in the NCAC conference.

The NCAC west will become a very tough to be one of the top two with Depauw joining. The NCAC is back to division play this year, but next year there will be some other division play required which will count as confernece games and even up the divisions a little bit.

I think they will help raise the NCAC's rep a little bit. They will be a great addition and I wish them luck.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 05, 2012, 09:45:56 AM
Kenyon beats Widener 15-5 to start the spring trip Jr. Tyler Dierke goes 6.1 innings allowing nine hits and 4 earned runs. Kenyon is now 1-3 on the year.

Dennison is 1-3 after a trip to Emory One win against Berry 8-0, Loss to Berry 19-2, Two losses to Emory 9-7, 5-4 (10 innings)

Depauw starts season 6-1 with sweeps of Washington St Louis and Transylvania and a split with Anderson.

Hiram wins first two games of season against Emerson, 9-6 and 7-5.

Oberlin starts season losing two to Case Western 2-5 and 1-9.

OWU Gets a spit with Case this weekend. 1-6 and 7-3. They are now 3-1 on the season.

Wabash is now 3-4 on the season after a 12-1 win over Desales on Sunday.

Wittenburg opened their spring at the Russ Matt invitaional with 2 wins over Pitt-Greensburg.

Wooster starts their Season on 3-11.





Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 06, 2012, 03:45:22 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 02, 2012, 12:59:30 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but how is DePauw usually?  Is this where they'll probably be most years?

There doing well so far this year. Depauw is 6-1 against some good teams, WashU, Anderson, and Transylvania. They also have received some Votes in D3baseball's top 25. They are only picked to finish fourth in the conference but I can see them finishing higher than that. Switching out Earlham for Depauw is going to make the west division a dogfight.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BashBacker#16 on March 07, 2012, 07:13:51 PM
Wabash is now 3-0 in Texas, bringing their record to 5-4 (after a 1-3 start).  They play Mary Hardin Bayler now.  Pumped to see these guys playing well down south.

DePauw has very good baseball and has been a consistent NCAA playoff team.

Wabash Always Fights!

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DUBBALL15 on March 08, 2012, 02:09:24 PM
Denison Leaves Saturday morning for Port Charlotte:

Loaded schedule with lots of ranked teams should be a good test for them.  After 4 games, they are 1-3 but played some decent ball in 3 out of the 4 games though.  Looking forward to seeing how they fair against Berg, Marietta, Rhodes, Montclaire St, and Mt. St. Joes. 

By the way anybody notice how balanced the west will be this year?  8-8 could be a 5 way tie for 1st.  How would they decide who goes to the tournament???

Just wondering. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 09, 2012, 10:45:05 AM
DUBall

I agree the west is going to be very balanced. I have no idea what the NCAC tiebreakers are though.

OWU leaves for Florida today, they are playing in the snowbird classic. First game Sunday against Heidelberg. Wish I was going down to watch.

Good luck all
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 11, 2012, 11:18:02 AM
Wooster finally takes the field today against LaGrange @ 1:00. I was hoping their 2012 media guide would be up on Wooster's website but it's not just yet.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2012, 02:45:42 PM
Wooster leading LaGrange 4-2 top of 8th.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2012, 06:17:57 PM
Last half of the order comes through for Ohio Wesleyan in a 7-0 win over Heidelberg.

Frentos 3-3 with a double
Gaydos 0 for 3 but with an RBI
Bott 2 for 4 with a double
Toland 3 for 4 with 2 RBI and a double
Buckey 2 for four with an RBI

Dibiasio as the lead off hitter  1 for 4 with 2 RBI and a triple as the leadoff hitter

Skarsten pitches 8 innings allowing  4hits and 0 runs. His ERA for the season is .9375

Good luck Bishops against Mount


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 12, 2012, 12:42:00 PM
Nice win for the Bishops.  I see Denison beat Heide over the weekend as well!  Heide is off to a bit of a rough start as they are just 4-4 on the season.

Wooster gets off to a 1-0 start to the season as they beat LaGrange yesterday 5-2. 

Things get tougher today as Wooster faces 9-0 Rowan.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 12, 2012, 12:53:00 PM
Scotsfan, Good luck against Rowan.

Heide this year is not the same team we have seen in the past. There top two pitchers are hurt and they are depending on a lot of Freshmen. Beating Heide is nice, but I am not sure they are really a top 25 team so far this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 12, 2012, 01:31:51 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 12, 2012, 12:53:00 PM
Scotsfan, Good luck against Rowan.

Heide this year is not the same team we have seen in the past. There top two pitchers are hurt and they are depending on a lot of Freshmen. Beating Heide is nice, but I am not sure they are really a top 25 team so far this year.

Thanks for the clarification on Heide.  I was just basing it on their pre-season ranking and their recent run of success.

I'll be around here more now that hoops is done at Wooster.  Funny how Woo's first baseball game drops the day after the Scots were eliminated from the NCAA Hoops Tournament.  Nice to have some OWU perspective in here this season and good luck to the Bishops and your son.  Should be an entertaining and pretty wide open race in the NCAC this season!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 12, 2012, 02:29:28 PM
Rowan drilled Wooster to the tune of 16-5 as the Profs remain undefeated on the season at 10-0.  Not too disappointed in the result seeing that this was Rowan's 10th game on the season compared to just Wooster's second. 

Wooster scored first in the bottom of the 1st and the game was still in reach into the 6th before Rowan broke thru with an 8 spot in the top half of the 6th and that was the ballgame.  Colin Meinzer and Zac Sessa were the fateful pitchers in that 6th inning getting tagged for 8 runs in only a 3rd of an inning.

Wooster is now off tomorrow before coming back on Wednesday to take on Monclair St and then the big showdown with #1 Marietta on Thrusday!

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 12, 2012, 04:00:09 PM
I saw in the box score that Wooster walked 10 guys. Not going to win many games doing that. Gotta let it go and move on to the next game. Lots of season left.  8-)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 12, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
OWU played Montclair today at 11:00.

Anxious to see the score, hoped they recovered from the loss to MT. yesterday. Dang I wish I was in Fla.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 12, 2012, 06:03:25 PM
Not only did the pitching give up 10 free passes, but the O grounded into 5 DP's. The Florida trip should sort out an everyday line-up. Woo is playing a lot of young guys and really has no proven pitchers.

The team could take some lumps on the southern trip. Time will tell the quality of newcomers.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on March 12, 2012, 07:20:56 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 12, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
OWU played Montclair today at 11:00.

Anxious to see the score, hoped they recovered from the loss to MT. yesterday. Dang I wish I was in Fla.

Bdad, too bad your son didn't get more support. Was he limited by pitch count that he only went 3 innings? Where was that defense against Berg earlier in the day? 7 errors are more than any team is going to survive. The box score on here for Berg-OWU game is a real jumble, has many guys on the wrong team.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 13, 2012, 09:35:08 AM
Thanks Motorman,

Yes he was limited by pitch count, he through 46 pitches in the second, so after the third he was done. Not sure what happened to the Defense. But you are right 7 errors is not going to win any games. My son was one of the culprits. Coach said he would see another start this week so that's good. hopefully he will get the run support and defense he needs. We were pretty pleased with his numbers, they weren't great:

3 innings 6 hits 2 earned runs six strike outs 2 walks (these will bite him every time.)

Glad they came back an beat Montclair in a slugfest, I do not have the box score so I do not know how many errors, who pitched etc.....

They play a double header against Utica today.

Motorman, I have to thank Heide for their live stats allowed me to keep track of the game at home and while out running errands last Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DUBBALL15 on March 13, 2012, 10:05:03 AM
Just looked at Denison's website seems like they had the same problem against Marietta.  They outhit them but on D they had 6 errors.  Only lost by 1 though but without who knows what happens.  Seems like this Murphy kid has turned the corner 2 CGs already on the year.  Hope their Defense can pick it up against Rhodes today, and then against Marietta tomorrow. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on March 13, 2012, 10:38:24 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 13, 2012, 09:35:08 AM
Thanks Motorman,

Yes he was limited by pitch count, he through 46 pitches in the second, so after the third he was done. Not sure what happened to the Defense. But you are right 7 errors is not going to win any games. My son was one of the culprits. Coach said he would see another start this week so that's good. hopefully he will get the run support and defense he needs. We were pretty pleased with his numbers, they weren't great:

3 innings 6 hits 2 earned runs six strike outs 2 walks (these will bite him every time.)

Glad they came back an beat Montclair in a slugfest, I do not have the box score so I do not know how many errors, who pitched etc.....

They play a double header against Utica today.

Motorman, I have to thank Heide for their live stats allowed me to keep track of the game at home and while out running errands last Sunday.
That should be 2 easy wins, Utica hasn't won a game yet. Montclair looked to be down from what we saw from them last year. Was really surprised you guys had such a bad game against MSJ team that had only won 1 game before they beat OWU.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 13, 2012, 10:56:55 AM
Quote from: motorman on March 13, 2012, 10:38:24 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 13, 2012, 09:35:08 AM
Thanks Motorman,

Yes he was limited by pitch count, he through 46 pitches in the second, so after the third he was done. Not sure what happened to the Defense. But you are right 7 errors is not going to win any games. My son was one of the culprits. Coach said he would see another start this week so that's good. hopefully he will get the run support and defense he needs. We were pretty pleased with his numbers, they weren't great:

3 innings 6 hits 2 earned runs six strike outs 2 walks (these will bite him every time.)

Glad they came back an beat Montclair in a slugfest, I do not have the box score so I do not know how many errors, who pitched etc.....

They play a double header against Utica today.

Motorman, I have to thank Heide for their live stats allowed me to keep track of the game at home and while out running errands last Sunday.
That should be 2 easy wins, Utica hasn't won a game yet. Montclair looked to be down from what we saw from them last year. Was really surprised you guys had such a bad game against MSJ team that had only won 1 game before they beat OWU.

Yeah I was surprised to don't know if was kind of a letdown game after winning against Heidelberg earlier in the day. They we in it for most of the game. Looks like one inning killed them. That is the type of game that hey have to win. They need to beat in-region opponents that are struggling like MSJ. With as balanced as the NCAC is this year they need to get in contention for a possible Pool C bid, winning the NCAC tournament is going to be tough.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 13, 2012, 11:15:35 AM
D3 top 25 poll has 3 NCAC teams in the Category of also receiving votes:
DePauw 44
Wittenberg 14
Ohio Wesleyan 1

Congrats to all teams....

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 14, 2012, 05:09:49 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 13, 2012, 11:15:35 AM
D3 top 25 poll has 3 NCAC teams in the Category of also receiving votes:
DePauw 44
Wittenberg 14
Ohio Wesleyan 1

Congrats to all teams....

Witt's 9-1 and Hampp is hitting .595 w/ 16 RBI...the things you learn when you actually check a team's website!  Witt seems to struggle with consistency.  Maybe this will be the year they put it together.  Based on early results it looks like the NCAC is going to be extremely competitive this season. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DUBBALL15 on March 14, 2012, 07:00:44 PM
Only thing i wonder is there competition that they played, only 1 team with a winning record.  But I feel the west will be much more competative than the east.  I saw DU lost to Marietta by 1 again today, seems like their starting 3 are very good but they need to get their bats going. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 15, 2012, 10:11:57 AM
OWU plays Wooster before they head back North. It will be good to see how they measure up. I agree with Witt's schedule. we will see how they play when they get into conference play. I agree with DU, I know I have said it before, but the West could turn into a real dogfight. There is probably going to be a good team that misses out making the conference tourney.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 15, 2012, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: DUBBALL15 on March 14, 2012, 07:00:44 PM
Only thing i wonder is there competition that they played, only 1 team with a winning record.  But I feel the west will be much more competative than the east.  I saw DU lost to Marietta by 1 again today, seems like their starting 3 are very good but they need to get their bats going.

Yeah, any time you're playing the Penn St. and Pitt branches you can usually assume you should win those games.  They play Capital tonight and Mount Union Sunday.  Both of them have good records with wins over top 25 teams already so that may give us a better idea about Witt at this point in time.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 15, 2012, 04:55:55 PM
Scots beat Etta 6-0.
Etta sat 2 seniors for breaking team rules. Much respect for coach Brewer for standing pat and putting his team before wins and loses.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 16, 2012, 09:47:58 AM
Nice win for the Scots yesterday.  Not only beating the #1 team in the country but shutting them out in the process.  Marietta went scoreless in two games as Montclair St (who beat Woo on Wednesday) also blanked the Pios.  Guess that loss to Mont. St. wasn't as bad as I thought on Wed.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ettanut4life on March 16, 2012, 10:10:39 AM
Would love to see a rematch between Woo and the Etta with Etta atfull strength. Just wasn't the same team yesterday. Marietta smoked Montclair state just three days ago before getting shutout yesterda by them and Wooster
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on March 16, 2012, 11:01:19 AM
Quote from: ettanut4life on March 16, 2012, 10:10:39 AM
Would love to see a rematch between Woo and the Etta with Etta atfull strength. Just wasn't the same team yesterday. Marietta smoked Montclair state just three days ago before getting shutout yesterda by them and Wooster

They are scheduled to play at Wooster against each other in a mid-week contest on April 25th.  It may be a typical low-end starter battle, but at least they will match-up again....if weather permits.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 17, 2012, 07:08:04 PM
OWU cancelled the game against Wooster. Half the team are members of the Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity. Two members of the fraternity were in a car accident. One died and another is in the hospital. Please keep the families in your prayers.

http://www.wytv.com/content/news/local/story/Canfield-Man-Injured-in-South-Carolina-Crash/bvCbbKQW2USpH_y6sK6tYg.cspx (http://www.wytv.com/content/news/local/story/Canfield-Man-Injured-in-South-Carolina-Crash/bvCbbKQW2USpH_y6sK6tYg.cspx)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 18, 2012, 12:09:56 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 17, 2012, 07:08:04 PM
OWU cancelled the game against Wooster. Half the team are members of the Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity. Two members of the fraternity were in a car accident. One died and another is in the hospital. Please keep the families in your prayers.

http://www.wytv.com/content/news/local/story/Canfield-Man-Injured-in-South-Carolina-Crash/bvCbbKQW2USpH_y6sK6tYg.cspx (http://www.wytv.com/content/news/local/story/Canfield-Man-Injured-in-South-Carolina-Crash/bvCbbKQW2USpH_y6sK6tYg.cspx)

Just heard this story on the news.  Thoughts and prayers go out to the families and friends.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Gramps on March 18, 2012, 11:35:10 PM
WE'LL KEEP THE FAMILIES IN OUR PRAYERS. A FEW OF THE OWU PLAYERS ARE VERY GOOD FRIENDS WITH MY GRANDSON AND GRANDDAUGHTER.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 19, 2012, 10:30:05 AM
I heard about the accident and saw the game was cancelled but did not put two and two together until I read the above posts. Very sad news.

Prayers to the families involved and the OWU community.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 19, 2012, 12:00:47 PM
Not sure if Witt's results against Capital and Mount Union tell us much.  If anything I'd say they tell us that Witt is what we expect from Witt...decent.  Pretty good?  Solid?  However you'd like to say it.  The NCAC West is gonna be a fun ride for you guys.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 19, 2012, 12:10:57 PM

The NCAC West is loaded this year!  This is why I'm not a fan of the 2 divisions in the NCAC.  I would argue that OWU, Witt, Wabash and Denison could ALL easily win the East.  I could make an argument for Wooster as really the only team from the East that could compete in the West...  ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 19, 2012, 12:25:02 PM
ScotsFan,
I am not a fan of the two divisions in the NCAC either. I understand the issues with rain outs between teams such as Allegheny and Wabash being an issue though. I was talking to a Dennison coach and next year there may be some cross league play that counts to the division standings. I was not real clear on the details.

I agree with you that Wooster could easily compete in the West. It is very likely that the NCAC tournament this year will not be all the top teams in the conference. East will be Wooster and Kenyon (my guess). I do not even want to Hazard a guess in the west. Could be any two of the teams in this division.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 20, 2012, 02:14:13 PM
Wooster moved to 5-3 after wins over Bethel 8-3 (5-5) and Oneonta St. 4-1 (3-3). No boxscore is available at this time.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 20, 2012, 07:26:13 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 20, 2012, 02:14:13 PM
Wooster moved to 5-3 after wins over Bethel 8-3 (5-5) and Oneonta St. 4-1 (3-3). No boxscore is available at this time.

Nice to see the Scots have now won 3 of their last 4 games allowing an average of 2 runs per game over that stretch.  And their only loss was a 2-1 setback to Rhodes.  Not too shabby...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 21, 2012, 08:13:43 AM
Box scores have been posted for Wooster's previous two games.

http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/files/woob319.htm
http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/files/woob320.htm

Interesting line by Wooster's Koski against Oneonta St., a game they won 4-1. Seven walks and no K's....

College of Wooster     IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
-----------------------------------------------
Kyle Koski..........       6.0  3  0  0  7  0 16 25
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 21, 2012, 09:42:36 PM
Saw my first game in peacefuk Valley. OWU out slugged Heidelberg to win 13 - 11, boy can Heidelberg's Lizcano hit. OWU's Zack Bott hit his first collegiate Home run. A 3 run blast to cap off the win.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 22, 2012, 09:44:20 AM
Wooster extends their winning streak to 3 games with a 20-4 drubbing of Western CT St. 

The Scots will be in action today vs. Colby and then wrap up their Florida swing with a DH tomorrow against Plymouth St. before returning home.  Hopefully Wooster can end their spring trip on a high note!   :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 22, 2012, 11:25:05 AM
Now that conference ply is getting ready to start anybody have predictions on how teams will finish up. Here is mine:

East ( not too familiar with what the teams have coming back so some is on rep only)
Wooster
Kenyon
Alleghenny
Oberlin
Hiram

West
Depauw
OWU
Wabash
Dennison
Witt (may be higher, they are just starting to play against some better teams.)

The west could Finish in almost any order this year. I believe all the teams are very close.

Thoughts anyone?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 22, 2012, 12:32:57 PM
I certainly don't know enough to offer predictions, but I think we can safely say whoever finishes last in the West might be the best last place team we see in a while!  Not one of those teams is bad by any stretch.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 22, 2012, 02:02:08 PM
I'd say your predictions for the East look pretty good.  As for the West though?  I have no idea who I see coming out on top out West.  The only thing I will say is that I would argue that any of the 5 teams from the West would compete with Wooster to win the East.  The balance of power has definitely shifted to the West and it's not even close...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DUBBALL15 on March 22, 2012, 11:25:32 PM
What would happen in the West if all teams split 8-8?

Also, OAC people how do you guys match up with DH's with the 7 and 9 game do you throw you number 2 for game 2 or do you save your number 1 for game 2 since its a 9 inning game.  Same goes for 3 and 4. 

Reading online another heartbreaker for Denison on Tues and it looks as the pitching and D didn't show up against Cap.  Hope they turn it around before they go into conference next weekend.  Should be a good test this weekend against Mount and John Carroll. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 23, 2012, 08:44:20 AM
Quote from: DUBBALL15 on March 22, 2012, 11:25:32 PM
What would happen in the West if all teams split 8-8?

Also, OAC people how do you guys match up with DH's with the 7 and 9 game do you throw you number 2 for game 2 or do you save your number 1 for game 2 since its a 9 inning game.  Same goes for 3 and 4.

Reading online another heartbreaker for Denison on Tues and it looks as the pitching and D didn't show up against Cap.  Hope they turn it around before they go into conference next weekend.  Should be a good test this weekend against Mount and John Carroll.

Everyone that I know of throws their #1 in the 7 inning game.  The reasoning being (I'm assuming) you have the best chance of winning that game because your ace will go the distance.  Etta is the exception because they have 2 aces so Brewer may pick them based on who has a bigger gas tank so he maximizes what he gets out of those 2 kids in the DH.  One of the Etta guys can answer that though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 23, 2012, 09:41:52 AM
Quote from: DUBBALL15 on March 22, 2012, 11:25:32 PM
What would happen in the West if all teams split 8-8?

Also, OAC people how do you guys match up with DH's with the 7 and 9 game do you throw you number 2 for game 2 or do you save your number 1 for game 2 since its a 9 inning game.  Same goes for 3 and 4. 

Reading online another heartbreaker for Denison on Tues and it looks as the pitching and D didn't show up against Cap.  Hope they turn it around before they go into conference next weekend.  Should be a good test this weekend against Mount and John Carroll.

I am wondering if it is overall win percentage. Looking at the standings currently listed on the NCAC web site it is currently Win Percentage, because no one has played a conference game yet.

http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/standings/2012
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 23, 2012, 10:06:02 AM
Wooster won their 4th in a row yesterday beating Colby 14-2 (3-5). Wooster finishes their Florida trip with a doubleheader against Plymouth St. (6-4) today starting @ 11. It sure would be nice to wrap up the trip with a 6 game winning streak. I don't care who the competition is. Schedule to play @ Muskingum on Tuesday. Best wishes for a safe trip home.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DUBBALL15 on March 23, 2012, 10:37:08 AM
That would be sad if overall winning percentage took over, since some teams have played "tougher schedules".  I wonder if they would do something like record against OAC schools or something crazy like that...

Oh well everyone good luck this weekend, Denison has that bye and plays Mt. Union and John Carroll I'm hoping they can turn it around this weekend and get back on track.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on March 23, 2012, 10:58:55 AM

Everyone that I know of throws their #1 in the 7 inning game.  The reasoning being (I'm assuming) you have the best chance of winning that game because your ace will go the distance.  Etta is the exception because they have 2 aces so Brewer may pick them based on who has a bigger gas tank so he maximizes what he gets out of those 2 kids in the DH.  One of the Etta guys can answer that though.
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Last year in the double headers it was Gasser in the 7 and Blaski in the 9.  It seems like Blaski has the ablity to go deeper into games than Brian does.  However, if there is a true #1 and #2, Coach Brewer will normally throw the #1 guy in the 7 inning affair. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wabashsid on March 25, 2012, 10:11:24 PM
In regards to the NCAC tiebreaker process if everyone in the West finished 8-8: There is a step-by-step tiebreaker developed by the league and the coaches using only NCAC Divisional games to determine the top two teams that would advance to the conference tournament. Because of the sweep by DePauw and the three victories by Wabash over Ohio Wesleyan, the possibility of all five teams finishing 8-8 is slim at best. DePauw and Wabash would also own the first tiebreaker (head-to-head divisional play) over Witt and OWU, respectively. No other games outside of divisional play are considered.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 26, 2012, 10:02:26 AM
That's good to know. Thanks WabashID
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 26, 2012, 01:31:49 PM
Bishops lose 3 of four over the weekend to Wabash.

In the first 3 games the bishops could not string enough hits together to get any wins. They out hit or equaled Wabash hits in each game but they were spread out and did not hit well with runners in scoring position, that with a few base running errors cost them the games.

OWU          R   H   E   Wabash   R   H   E
Game 1   0   6   0             4   8   1
Game 2   1   7   3             4   7   0
Game 3   5   12   1             6   5   0
Game 4   11   15   0             0   2   3
           17   40   4           14   22   4

But it is the final score that counts. Wittenberg and OWU are in bad spots if they want to make it to the conference tourney becuase Wabash owns any tie breaker over OWU and Depauw owns any tie breaker over Witt.

OWU doesn't see conference play again till it faces Depauw. They need to get there sticks going before then or they are in real trouble.

They play Marietta on Tuesday. Muskingum on Thursday, then a DH against Allegheny on Saturday, followed by a single game at Wilmington on 04/01.

Most of these are winnable games. Looking forward to Marietta to see how we match up.

Congrats to Tim K. on his Grand Slam in the 4th and final game.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 27, 2012, 08:34:05 PM
Wooster scores 3 runs in the top of the 9th to erase a 6-5 deficit and then held on as Musky scored one in the bottom half of the 9th to win 8-7.   :)  Wooster improves to 9-4 with the win and now gets ready for their home opener against a good B-W team tomorrow afternoon...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on March 28, 2012, 08:56:48 AM
I'm iterested to see how this matchup between the Scots and the Jackets go.  I haven't looked at BW's quality of schedule yet,  So I don't know "How good" they are (not that anyone really knows yet).

but this will be a good early season test for both Wooster and BW. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 28, 2012, 10:11:12 AM
I'm really concerned with the number of walks issued by Wooster pitching. They've issued 60 walks thus far while striking out the same number. Walked 6 more against Muskingum.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 28, 2012, 06:53:31 PM
Just got in and see the Scots are down to BW 15-12 in the bottom of the 8th with Woo still batting. One stat that stands out is Woo has 6 errors. I have not had a chance to see their effect on the game. Still playing, Go Scots!!!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 28, 2012, 07:32:54 PM
Woo goes down 15-12 to BW. Wind must have been blowing out at Art Murray because pitching did not show up for either team. BW bangs out 17 hits and the Scots 15. Both teams had granny's. Woo gives up 12 earned runs vs BW's 10.  Scot pitchers give up 7 free passes. D has 6 errors.

My view of this years team is the offense is not bad and will only get better. Pitching lacks depth, after the first 2 starters its a grab bag. Too many walks. Defense needs to be tight. Can't afford to give up extra outs.
If the Scots have any NCAA playoff aspirations they must win the NCAC auto bid. Pool C seems out of the question unless they go on some 15-20 game winning streak.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 29, 2012, 12:19:39 PM
I think the only team that has a shot at a pool C bid right now is Depauw, if they do not win the tournament. They have the strength of schedule for it and are racking up the wins.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 30, 2012, 10:59:22 AM
OWU won in extra innings against the Muskies 6-5.

The Muskies used 7 different pitchers.
OWU better start hitting if they hope to make the NCAC tourney. Last night the best hitter was Zach Bott who went 2 for 5 and Steve Gaydos at 1 for 2. No on else was better that 1 for 4.

OWU has a doulbe header against Allegheny this Saturday and play Wilmington on Sunday.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 02, 2012, 11:37:06 AM
Ugh.  Wooster was swept in yesterday's DH and lost 3 of 4 over the weekend at home to Kenyon.  Kenyon pitchers kept Wooster's bats silent yesterday as Wooster only managed 2 runs in 2 game?! 

Hats off to Kenyon for their impressive performance at Wooster.  How about the NCAC East standings?

Oberlin alone in 1st at 4-0 and Kenyon in 2nd at 5-1?!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 02, 2012, 12:15:21 PM
OWU split with Allegheny this weekend.
First game 9-1

Second game 5-1

Offense was missing as a team in both games. There was a few bright spots as JJ Buckey hit a solo home run, and James Toland hit well in both games.

We face Depauw next week. Hope the boys get the sticks going.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DenisonBigRed on April 02, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Standings so far are here:
http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/standings/2012

I'm hoping Denison can find some way to claw back to respectability. A 5-18 start seems to take us back to the 1990s. It seems that nearly every team on the schedule is much stronger from here on out: Case, Wittenberg, OWU, Wabash, Kenyon.

Maybe the Big Red can rally. The key seems to be cutting down on the errors, right? The pitching isn't deep, and the run production has been poor. But 58 errors in 23 games (while your opponents make only 23) makes it hard to win.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 02, 2012, 03:16:24 PM
Do cross divisional games not count as conference games in the standings?   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 02, 2012, 07:29:05 PM
Dr. A,
      I'm not sure but, I think the NCAC went back to East/ West divisions. The top 2 in the east and west will face off for the NCAC Championship.
As far as Wooster goes, very disappointing weekend losing 3 of 4 to Kenyon. The pitching is thin and if the bats don't come through, it will be a long season..
Scots lose to Lagrange 4-2. The season already seems long. Woo needs to reload and rebound.

Remember, 2 years ago, IWU fought to get into their conference tourney.  They won that, won the regional, and won it all in in Appelton. Hope springs eternal.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 02, 2012, 11:06:49 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on April 02, 2012, 03:16:24 PM
Do cross divisional games not count as conference games in the standings?   
It may count in a tie breaker, not sure. Goalie to be in top two in your division.

From what I understand next year the tourney could have four teams from one division.Not sure how they will do it with out round robin though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 03, 2012, 11:00:03 AM
The conference is in a tough spot.  They seem to be changing things frequently now a days.  Round robin is the best option for competitive balance.  But they have to try and balance it with the logistical problems of geography within the conference.  Seems like it's a constantly evolving system until they figure out the best balance between the two.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 03, 2012, 12:15:55 PM
Yep most of the teams in the west are for round robin, but a few of the teams in the east are against it. I am sure they will continue to tweak it till they come up with a system that works.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 04, 2012, 07:47:31 AM
Wooster lost 4-2 to LaGrange yesterday. They're now 10-9 and losers of 5 out of their last 6.  ::) It has not been a good season so far. They have not been able to score any runs.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 06, 2012, 10:45:31 PM
OWU splits with Depauw today.

Game 1 2-9
Depauw hit well and goes 9 for 30 lead by Pat Lyons who goes 2 for 3  with a solo homer. Depauw scores 5 in the 5th inning. Elliot Ross 5-1 shuts down OWU. for a 7 inning complete game allowing 5 hits in 26 at bats and holding OWU to two runs late.

Game 2 10-9
OWU hit early scoring 4 runs in the first inning led by Zack Bott, 5-3. Depauw was held hitless for 7 innings by freshman Charles Cooper who had 10 strike outs,1 walk, and 2 hits. Depauw came back late and tied it up. Steve Gaydos hit a walkoff to the fence in the bottom of the 9th to give Brandon Marker the win.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 08, 2012, 12:27:16 AM
OWU and Depauw split again today

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 09, 2012, 11:10:07 AM
Big week next week.

Wabash @Depauw
Ohio Wesleyan @Denison
Wooster @Hiram
Oberlin @Allegheny
Kenyon @Wittenberg

These are the top four teams in the west. OWU needs to take three of four at least and needs Depauw to play well and beat Wabash three of four. Currently Depauw sits comfortably at the top of the west, their only losses in the NCAC are to OWU. OWU is one spot behind Wabash at third but cannot settle for a tie because Wabash owns the tie breaker. Denison is tied with OWU at one game behind Wabash but has not played Wabash yet.

Witt plays Kenyon this weekend. We may have a better idea how good each team is after this game. Kenyon has been beating the teams they should beat. Kenyon taking three out of four from Wooster really changes things in the East division.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 16, 2012, 12:09:42 PM
after a rainy Saturday, looks like all the teams got their games in on Sunday.
Saturdays Games
Oberlin @ Allegheny - Allegheny sweep.
Game 1 Oberlin 1 Allegheny 2 - Two outstanding pitching performances, as Alleheny's  Kyle Davis went toe-to-toe with Oberlin's Eric Knight. Both pitchers would throw two-hit gems; however, it was the play of the defenses that would ultimately decide the outcome as Allegheny took advantage of three Yeomen errors to take game one 2-1.
Game 2 Oberlin 9 Allegheny 13 - This game was over shadowed by a controversial call in the bottom of the second. On what looked like a easy 6-4-3 double play. It was ruled that the Oberlin second baseman did not have his foot on the bag. so only one out was made, allowing a runner to score and leaving a base runner on second in scoring position.  Oberlin's coach argued the call and was removed from the game.

Sundays Games
OWU @ Denison - Split
Game 1 OWU 1 Denison 5 - OWU could not string any hits together, Denison Pitcher Tyler Vaske tossed a complete-game five-hit shutout en route to his first victory of the season. Denison has a big inning in the fourth plating four runs.
Game 2 OWU 7 Denison 3 - OWU Senior first baseman Tim Knezovich (Columbus/Briggs) and senior shortstop Steve Gaydos (Strongsville) drove in 2 runs apiece and freshman lefthander Charles Cooper (Columbus/Upper Arlington) scattered 5 hits over 8.0 innings as Ohio Wesleyan rallied for the win.

Wabash @ Depauw - Split
Game 1 Wabash 0 DePauw 6 - Wabash hitters could not figure out DePauw pitcher Hobs Donavan. Depauw has a big innning against Andrew Swart in the sixth, after holding them in check for most of the game.
Game 2 Wabash 5 Depauw 10 - Depauw struck early against Wabash Pitcher JT Miller, scoring enough to win by plating 6 runs in the first 3 innings. Wabash battled back third. fourth and fith but could not score enough against DePauw pitcher Elliot Ross.

Wooster @ Hiram - Wooster Sweeps
Game 1 Wooster 7 Hiram 2 - Wooster scores in the First and the seventh against Hiram Pitcher Mike LaLonde. Hiram cannot figure out Woosters  Josh Stidman, who only allows five hits.
Game 2 Wooster 16 Hiram 0 - Not much to say here Wooster merely dominates.

Oberlin@Alleghenny - Allegheny Sweeps
Game 1 Oberlin 1 Allegheny 5 - The Gators took advantage of nine Oberlin errors on the day and coupled that by pelting the Yeomen with 17 hits en route to a 5-1 win in game one
Game 2 Oberlin 0 Allegheny 14 - What can you say about this it is what it is.

Standings
East
Allegheny 8-0
Kenyon    8-2
Wooster   3-3   
Oberlin     5-7   
Hiram       0-12

Looks like Allegheny almost has it tied up they still have a series with Kenyon. This Series will tell give us a good Gage how good Allegheny really is.
I think Kenyon will also make the tournament, I do not think Gheny will be able to sweep. A lot will depend on any make up games from this last weekend.
Wooster, what can you say if they do not make tournament it will be the first time in a long time. A definite rebuilding year.
Oberlin looked good early but couldn't keep it up.
Hiram as always is Hiram.

West
DePauw       12    2    0.857    27    5    0.844    Won 3    8-2
Ohio Wesleyan    4    6    0.400    16    13    0.552    Won 1    5-5
Wabash       4    6    0.400    13    19    0.406    Lost 6    1-9
Denison            4    6    0.400    10    20    0.339    Lost 1    5-4-1
Wittenberg           4    8    0.333    18    14    0.562    Lost 4    3-7

We knew it would be a dog fight, just didn't think DePauw would run away with it.
DePauw - Clearly is the cream of the NCAC. The only team able to get a Split was OWU. They have tied up a place in the tournament.

OWU -Tied with Denison and Wabash. Inconsitent fielding has really hurt this team. Too many errors have turned good pitching prefomances into losses. They can mash when facing the 3 or fourth pitcher but seem to struggle when facing the top two pitcher on most other staffs. The Sweep by Wabash at the beginning of the season could come back to bite them. If they win the two tonight against Denison I think they will be number 2

Wabash - Everyone knew they could hit. They also showed this year they could pitch some as well. JT miller had a sub 2 Era going into this weekend. Andrew Swart has a sub 4 Era. Getting swept by DePauw Smarts but shouldn't hurt because almost everyone else has been swept by them. Letting Witt get Witt take three could cost them.

Denison - Sweeping Witt really helps them But they are in the middle of a tough one with OWU and still have to face Wabash. After the games tonight with OWU I will have a better feeling on whether they have a shot.

Witt - Split with Wabash helps them, but I do not see them sweeping any of there future NCAC opponents so I think they are done.

I think it will be Depauw and OWU from the west and Allegheny and Kenyon from the east.








Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 16, 2012, 10:02:21 PM
OWU swept Denision today.
12-10 and 7-5.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 18, 2012, 12:17:02 AM
If Wooster doesn't make the tournament, it will be the first time; they've been in it every year since its inception.  Certainly, this isn't one of their better teams, they're very similar to last year.  But the race in the east isn't over.  Current standings:

Allegheny: 8-0
Kenyon: 8-2
Wooster: 5-3
Oberlin: 5-7
Hiram: 0-14 

Kenyon has two make-up games left with Hiram.  Let's give them two wins.  Wooster's remaining league games are with Oberlin and Allegheny.  If they can take three out of four from each, not at all an impossibility, things would look like this:

Kenyon 10-2
Allegheny: 9-3
Wooster: 11-5
Oberlin 6-10
Hiram 0-16

That leaves only this weekend's series between Allegheny and Kenyon.  Within this hypothetical, with Wooster holding the tiebreaker over Allegheny, any result in this series, except Allegheny winning three games, and the Scots would get the second spot in the east.

At any rate, unless Wooster totally flubs the Oberlin series, they'll know what they need to do against Allegheny, and will likely control their own destiny.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 18, 2012, 01:50:02 PM
Congrats to Wooster pitcher Kyle Cinningham-Rhoads for spinning a perfect game on 4/15 versus Hiram. Only the second perfect game in Woo history. He was also named NCAC pitcher of the week.

I also wouldn't count out the Scots from making the NCAC tourney. Alleghenys 8-0 record has come from the bottom feeders of the conference. They still must play Kenyon and Woo. If the Scots can take care of business thet should get in.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: fantastic50 on April 21, 2012, 07:30:54 PM
Wooster takes two from the Yeomen today, 7-4 and 7-6, to stay in the race.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 21, 2012, 10:49:48 PM
Kenyon takes two from Allegheny, looks like they are the reak deak in NCAC.

Fan akready mentioned Woosters win. They are certainly in it.

Wesleyan splits with Witt to stay in second place int the West.

Wabash keeps pace with a split with Denision, Although they still have 2 games to play against Depauw.

So everybody in the west is still in it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 22, 2012, 09:51:23 AM
I kove it, Bishopkeftiesdad!  "Reak deak" is the best, but we can do it universakky and it's stikk fun! :)

Ok, enough of that. :)

Wooster didn't have an easy time of it yesterday, because both they and Oberlin have moved towards the middle of the pack.  The Scots cannot afford a letdown today (provided weather allows the games), but if they go ahead and take two more, they'll be in good position next weekend to climb past the Gators into the tournament.  That means DePauw, but at least they'd be in, and once there anything can happen.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 22, 2012, 02:10:35 PM
Booster,
Yup if I could type I would be dangerous. guess I should proof read better. good luck to Wooster.
OWU just took the first game from Witt on a three run jack by jr. James Toland in the fifth. Kinda took the wind out of Witt, they could not mount a come back.Second game getting ready to start.

Go OWU.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 22, 2012, 06:17:00 PM
Wooster ends up taking all four from Oberlin while Allegheny salvages one very important win against Kenyon.  Kenyon is now 11-3, Wooster and Allegheny both 9-3.  Unless the Lords drop a make-up game to Hiram, they'll take the number one spot in the east, due to having the tiebreaker edge over both of the other schools.  If Wooster and Allegheny split next weekend, I don't know what happens.  Anybody?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 22, 2012, 08:01:28 PM
I know the first tie breaker is head to head. With a split that is out the window. Any SID's have an answer.

OWU took both today and with a Denison win, take second place in the west. Thanks big Red.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 25, 2012, 09:20:05 AM
I just got off the phone with someone at the NCAC, who gave me the following information:

1. The first tiebreaker, as we already knew, is head-to-head.  If Wooster and Allegheny split their four game series, they'll both be 11-5 and 2-2 vs each other, so this one gets bypassed.
2. Record against teams above them.  Both teams went 1-3 against Kenyon, so this one gets skipped.
3. Record against teams beneath them, in descending order.  Oberlin would be next, followed by Hiram.  Both Wooster and Allegheny swept these teams, so forget this one.
4. Coin flip!

So, in the very possible occurrence that Wooster and Allegheny split their four-game season-ending series this weekend, the Eastern Division's second spot in the NCAC tournament will be decided by a coin toss.  Yikes.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on April 25, 2012, 09:32:30 AM
Seems like they could have had a better tiebreaker than a coin flip...Record against Western Division teams (or win pct.), overall record, runs for vs. runs against, which coach has the most chest hair. 

Maybe they can do two out of three on the coin toss to make it look more respectable.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 25, 2012, 10:21:40 AM
I agree with ettafan, you think they would come up with a better fourth tie breaker. Maybe it will change next year. I heard they are changing how teams qualify for the tourney. Won't just be the top two from each division, it will be possible to have all four slots filled from one division. I do not know how they will accomplish that without round robin play.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigRed on April 25, 2012, 11:47:28 AM
Coin Flip wouldn't be fair at all.

I've heard from my son who plays at Denison from an assistant that their will be a cross-over weekend next year.  The 1 in the East will play the 4 from the West, 2 vs 3 etc...  That way they could maybe balance out the two division. 

Looks like Denison took care of business from the number 1 seed from the East last night.  Would of been an interesting season if they did round robin again to see what teams would actually come from each division. 

Long year for Denison, hoping we can turn it around for next year and for 3 more years to come. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on April 30, 2012, 08:53:25 AM
I noticed Allegheney and Wooster split on Sunday setting up a very important double header today.  Lots of eyes on this one!

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 30, 2012, 12:15:16 PM
Yup either team has to win both games to avoid the dreaded coin flip to see who gets in the tournament.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigRed on April 30, 2012, 02:21:18 PM
Why aren't they playing today?  Its georgous out,

Maybe if they have a coin flip we could go back to non-divisons that would be a great way to point to the east this year to go back to round robin. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 30, 2012, 02:54:01 PM
THe problem with round robin is the distance between Alleghenny and Wabash/DePauw. Quite a distance for make up games. Not sure Oberlin and Hiram are all that hot about facing western teams.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 30, 2012, 03:01:58 PM
Kenyon has clinched the top seed for the East. Looks like OWU will be playing them in the first round.

One of my sons and friends and former team mates plays for Kenyon. It would be neat if they could pitch against each other. Probably wont happen but it would still be neat.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 30, 2012, 11:11:13 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 30, 2012, 02:54:01 PM
THe problem with round robin is the distance between Alleghenny and Wabash/DePauw. Quite a distance for make up games. Not sure Oberlin and Hiram are all that hot about facing western teams.

In past years, I'd argue that Oberlin and Kenyon would probably rather face the western teams than have to deal with four games each against Wooster and Allegheny.  Not anymore.  Allegheny blazed the trail to mediocrity and Wooster has meekly followed.  The NCAC East is now, no doubt, the weak sister.

I see Wooster and Allegheny as pretty even.  Maybe in a given game, the Scots are 55%-45%.  That means that the most likely outcome tomorrow is a split.  I wonder when and where they'll do this toss?  Tomorrow night at the NCAC office?

I just don't see a division-less NCAC.  Too much travel, not just for Allegheny and the Indiana teams, but for everybody.  It's ok in basketball, where if you make the trip you're going to play the game 99.9% of the time.  But given the fickleness of spring weather in the north, the whole thing becomes a crapshoot that could get very ugly.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 01, 2012, 04:45:31 PM
Allegehney takes game one today 3-1, putting Wooster in a "mut win to force the coin toss" situation in game two.

High Drama!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 01, 2012, 06:31:51 PM
Woo goes down in game 1,  4-1. Leading 9-7 in game 2 after 7.

Coin toss??????????????????????? Tales never fails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 01, 2012, 07:05:48 PM
Wooster wins 9-8. Get ready for the coin flip.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 01, 2012, 07:58:52 PM
Wooster's streak continues, They win the coin flip and will play Depauw in the first game of the tournament. Kenyon and OWU face off in the second.

Will Wooster start Stidham? Will Depauw start Ross?

Who will go for Kenyon, Krahn, or Dierke? OWU? Cooper or Skarsten?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 01, 2012, 08:26:43 PM
Coin toss stinks, feel for the guys from Allegheny. Someone needs to win it on the field. One game , winner take all.

Was it heads or tails????????????????????/
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 01, 2012, 08:34:46 PM
They did not say in the article. Oh well we will what changes next year brings. Would have liked to see a one more game to decide it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 02, 2012, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 01, 2012, 08:26:43 PM
Coin toss stinks, feel for the guys from Allegheny. Someone needs to win it on the field. One game , winner take all.

Was it heads or tails????????????????????/

According to todays article in the Daily Record, it was tails:

Quote from: Wooster Daily RecordAnd by virtue of a coin flip that wound up "tails" favoring the Scots, they are headed to Chillicothe to take on DePauw in the first round of the NCAC tournament on Thursday at 4 p.m.

Is there a reason why they couldn't have just played a one game playoff to see who got to go?  I mean, a coin toss???  What a horrible way to have your season come to an end for Allegheny?!   :-\
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 02, 2012, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 01, 2012, 06:31:51 PM
Woo goes down in game 1,  4-1. Leading 9-7 in game 2 after 7.

Coin toss??????????????????????? Tales never fails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess tails never fails. Scots had the luck. That being said, a coin flip is no way to determine who should advance.
Maybe next year we can play rock, paper, scissors.

Anyways, good luck to Wooster. The team needs to elevate their game if they want to make it to the NCaa Regionals.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Gramps on May 03, 2012, 12:26:50 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 02, 2012, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 01, 2012, 06:31:51 PM
Woo goes down in game 1,  4-1. Leading 9-7 in game 2 after 7.

Coin toss??????????????????????? Tales never fails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess tails never fails. Scots had the luck. That being said, a coin flip is no way to determine who should advance.
Maybe next year we can play rock, paper, scissors.

Anyways, good luck to Wooster. The team needs to elevate their game if they want to make it to the NCaa Regionals.

"old scott", YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS IN JEST, BUT A GIRL'S SOCCER HS COACH ACTUALLY USED "ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS" TO SELECT HIS VARSITY TEAM LAST YEAR EVEN IF SOME OF THE LOSERS WERE ACTUALLY BETTER THAN THE WINNERS.  HE IS A VERY SUCCESSFUL COACH, TO HIS CREDIT, BUT A GUESSING GAME TO CHOOSE A TEAM???????   JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN DONE.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 03, 2012, 06:25:23 PM
Luva Gramps. It was said in jest.

Wooster takes down Depauw 4-1 in game 1 of the NCAC playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 04, 2012, 12:29:37 AM
OWU takes down Keyon 9-4. They will play Wooster tomorrow at noon.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 04, 2012, 10:59:04 AM
Kudos to both the OWU and WOO teams.  Both were fighting like crazy just to qualify for the tourney and then both come through with game one wins.  Wooster especially, from coin flip to big upset of a quality DePauw team. 

For the "traditional" mideast and NCAC fans, there is something which just seems "right with the world" when it is OWU and Wooster playing in the winners bracket game of the NCAC tourney!

Good luck to both teams today!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 04, 2012, 03:06:43 PM
Wooster beats OWU 5-2. They are in the "Kings Seat."

Are the Scots getting hot at the right time of year? Woo needs to keep their focus. We saw what happened 2 years ago against St. Thomas for the National Championship. Scots needed to win 1 of 2 and dropped them both. Keep fighting, take nothing for granted.

Congrats to coach Tim Pettorini on win 1,000 at Wooster and in DIII ball.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 04, 2012, 03:29:47 PM
1,000 wins at one school...absolutely insane.  That's mind boggling.  That type of sustained success is also why Wooster and Marietta are DIII royalty.  Congrats to Coach P.  Amazing accomplishment.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 04, 2012, 03:47:36 PM
Yes, it is insane. I never thought coach P would still be at Wooster. He is committed to the school and the program.

Sad to say, I was behind the dish for win No.1, hence the name "old scot."
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bufordscot on May 05, 2012, 12:38:16 PM
Anyone know the plan? I'd think there would be a press release however....
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 05, 2012, 02:33:10 PM
Quote from: bufordscot on May 05, 2012, 12:38:16 PM
Anyone know the plan? I'd think there would be a press release however....

Plan for what?

DePauw eliminated OWU this morning and is leading Wooster 3-2 in the top of the 6th in game 1 of the championship series.  If the Tigers hold on for the win, there will be a winner take all game 2.

If Wooster happens to win and get the automatic bid into the NCAA tournament, is DePauw's resume good enough to get them an at-large bid?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 05, 2012, 04:08:47 PM
Based on their rpi and their regional ranking I would say they are a strong pool c contender.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2012, 06:14:45 PM
This seesaw championship game is highly entertaining to my ears. Can't imagine what it's like for those with a rooting interest.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 05, 2012, 08:44:07 PM
Congratulations to Wooster on beating DePauw in the 2nd game today and winning the NCAC Championship with the automatic bid into the NCAA tourney!  :)

Scots were big underdogs in the tournament this year and still got it done.  Congrats to Pettorini on 1,000+ wins!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 07, 2012, 12:17:54 PM
Congratulations to Wooster. your team pictched and played well. Good luck in the regional. I hope you go far.
I am hoping that DePauw getting to the championship game and taking one of them gives them a good shot at a Pool C bid.

One more congratulations goes out to Kenyon. Even though they were two and out in the tourney, they had a good season and have something to build upon. With their young pitching, we should continue to see them in the tourney, or close. They seem to have at least caught up to Alleheny. Hopefully Coach Burdette can keep bringing in quality recruits.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 09, 2012, 11:27:13 AM
All-NCAC team released:

http://www2.northcoast.org/sites/default/files/baseball/BASE%20ALL-NCAC%2012pdf.pdf (http://www2.northcoast.org/sites/default/files/baseball/BASE%20ALL-NCAC%2012pdf.pdf)

Conratulations to all who made the team.

From OWU:
1ST Team
James Toland Catcher

2nd Team
Nathan Strome
Steve Skarsten
Charles Cooper (also Newconer of the year)  :D

Honarable Mention
Tim Knezovitch
Steve Gaydos
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 10, 2012, 07:39:55 AM
Congratulations to all the NCAC players earning honors. Hard to believe the season has pretty much come and gone already.

I know Mathie of Wooster was hurt, I just wasn't aware of what he hurt. What did he injure?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 14, 2012, 12:39:20 PM
Congratulations to Depauw for making the Tourney and getting shipped to Millington, for the Central regional.

Record against teams in their Regional:

Wash U. 3-1 (Three of these wins came early in the season in February, The loss come late in the season right before facing their nemesis, Wabash, and right before the NCAC tournament.
Manchester 1-1 )This series were played in March
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 17, 2012, 10:12:37 PM

2 and BBQ for the Scots. Should we have exepected more? I think not. It took a coin flip for Woo to make it to the NCAC playoffs. They played well for one weekend and won the auto bid to the regionals.
Overall, Woo played mainly soph's in the field this year. They should have gained valuable experience and should make some noise in the next two years.
Pitching wise, Wooster was thin with arms. If Coach P can recruit some pitching or the existing staff the can step up, they should look good for the next 2 years.
Thanks to the Seniors for your commitment to the program. Good Luck in your future endeavors.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 18, 2012, 02:45:40 PM
Not sure what I have posted but that is controversial, but every time I post I seem to lose another Karma point. If I have offended anybody I apologize.

I know it is way early for recruiting, but I like a lot of the recruits coming to OWU next year. I hope they all end up on Campus.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 18, 2012, 04:11:08 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 18, 2012, 02:45:40 PM
Not sure what I have posted but that is controversial, but every time I post I seem to lose another Karma point. If I have offended anybody I apologize.
Attacking karma is a serious tradition among the graduates of certain schools.  You know, those without girls.  Freudian thing.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 18, 2012, 05:51:35 PM
To be honest, I don't recall anyone posting anything offensive or contraversial on either board (NCAC/OAC) all season.  The inmates were very well behaved this season I thought!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 22, 2012, 09:08:43 AM
Anybody know why Mike Clark resigned at Denison? Was it his Idea or the administrations?

http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/201205119eqcjm

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 22, 2012, 12:38:10 PM
^^^ Interesting.  Anyone have any thoughts on potential replacements?  I'll just get it out of the way since I'm almost positive he was suggested last time...Mike Deegan.  Not sure he would have any interest whatsoever, but his name is almost guaranteed to come up.  And he'd be a great hire if he was interested.

Wonder if they'll go with another young assistant or maybe someone who's already a HC? 

Any good candidates within the NCAC currently?  Having been to a number of the NCAC campuses I feel like I'd rank Denison at or near the top personally.  Really liked the campus and Granville in general.  And you're still close to Columbus.  Plus it seems like the school supports athletics pretty well.  Seems like it'd be a good job.





Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 22, 2012, 01:13:45 PM
I've been wondering how much longer Coach Deegan will stay on as the #2 guy at Marietta.  I know Coach Brewer relies heavily on Mike, and Mike is very knowledgeable about the game.  I think he is also a great teacher of the game.  If he has interest in moving on, Denison would likely be a great starting point. 

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 22, 2012, 01:25:27 PM
I think Deegan would be a great pick. He recruited my son and I was very impressed with his knowledge and he seemed very personable. Anybody who would get him would be getting a good coach and recruiter.

I think he could do a could job of getting more of the local, Ohio talent. Denision regularly has players from all over the country, but not many from Ohio. I am not sure if that is by choice or if they have been unable to convince good players from Ohio to apply at Denison. I think Deegan could change of that. Denison has 9 Ohio players, I believe. were Marietta has 26 Ohio players.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigRed on May 22, 2012, 02:28:37 PM
I feel like Deegan could be a good choice, only issue though is that one of the preferred list is previous head coaching at the collegiate level.  Does he have head coaching experience?  Also would he need to change his recruiting requirements Denison requires for admittance? 

On the field I feel like he'd be a great person to lead this team, I'm just hopeful he can take this talent to its potential. 

As far as recruiting local Ohio talent, one of the big pushes though from the admissions is to go after people outside Ohio.  Over the past years Denison has grown in getting all students not just baseball player is only 20% Ohio.  Surprisingly they do very well in California, Chicago.  Denison wants more diversity on campus which means people from out of state.  This is just information through the grapevine, don't quote me on that though just from what I've heard.  I know next years class has people from Ohio but also have another 8 states represented.  So they are going after that "national" feel that admissions would like. 

Coach Clark from what I"m hearing has left to pursue other opportunities.  I wish the best for him.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 22, 2012, 02:39:57 PM
Thanks Big Red, good info. +1
I wish the best for him as well.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigRed on May 22, 2012, 02:51:25 PM
Quote from: BigRed on May 22, 2012, 02:28:37 PM
I feel like Deegan could be a good choice, only issue though is that one of the preferred list is previous head coaching at the collegiate level.  Does he have head coaching experience?  Also would he need to change his recruiting requirements Denison requires for admittance? 

On the field I feel like he'd be a great person to lead this team, I'm just hopeful he can take this talent to its potential. 

As far as recruiting local Ohio talent, one of the big pushes though from the admissions is to go after people outside Ohio.  Over the past years Denison has grown in getting all students not just baseball player is only 20% from Ohio.  Surprisingly they do very well in California, Chicago.  Denison wants more diversity on campus which means people from out of state.  This is just information through the grapevine, don't quote me on that though just from what I've heard.  I know next years class has people from Ohio but also have another 8 states represented.  So they are going after that "national" feel that admissions would like. 

Coach Clark from what I"m hearing has left to pursue other opportunities.  I wish the best for him.

Sorry left out a word. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 22, 2012, 04:37:21 PM
I think Denison is known more as a national liberal arts university.  That's no surprise to me that the baseball team is recruited from all over since that's just consistent with the preference of the school as a whole.  The admissions requirements may be tougher than Marietta, but no more so than the rest of the NCAC.  They're on pretty level ground with their conference.  I know Clark had the background of being from a high end academic school prior to Denison, but I certainly wouldn't mark that as a 'con' against Deegan. 

I think ulitmately it would come down to what DU is looking for.  I think Deegan would do a great job building that program up.  Would he do it with a nice even mix of kids from Cali to Long Island?  Maybe not.  But I think he'd put the program in a position to win consistently and quickly.  Denison is a great school with a great reputation.  And this is D3.  Maybe the value of the right kids outweighs wins to some extent.  And that's fine, no one can knock a school for putting the goals of the university ahead of the baseball program. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 22, 2012, 04:46:19 PM
One more thing...I wonder if Ryan Grice from Capital will apply?  He obviously has head coaching experience.  And, let's face it, Cap is not a great situation.  One part-time assistant, field in the ghetto off campus and an administration that seems anti-athletics.  The only positive is location.  Living in Columbus I see my share of Otterbein and Capital games.  The record may not show it, but Grice is a good coach.  That program was in bad shape and he has steadily been improving their talent.  I think he'd do well somewhere that had better facilities, better support, etc.  Only issue is he recruits the heck out of Ohio now.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 24, 2012, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 18, 2012, 04:11:08 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 18, 2012, 02:45:40 PM
Not sure what I have posted but that is controversial, but every time I post I seem to lose another Karma point. If I have offended anybody I apologize.
Attacking karma is a serious tradition among the graduates of certain schools.  You know, those without girls.  Freudian thing.

LOL!  Apparently I'm highly offensive as my negative karma has surpassed the century mark and still falling?!   ;D   Maybe someday I can hit a cool K!  :P  I guess that will depend on if the person/persons smiting my karma ever decide to get a life outside of smiting in a small college sports forum...  ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 30, 2012, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: BigRed on May 22, 2012, 02:28:37 PM
I feel like Deegan could be a good choice, only issue though is that one of the preferred list is previous head coaching at the collegiate level.  Does he have head coaching experience?  Also would he need to change his recruiting requirements Denison requires for admittance? 

On the field I feel like he'd be a great person to lead this team, I'm just hopeful he can take this talent to its potential. 

As far as recruiting local Ohio talent, one of the big pushes though from the admissions is to go after people outside Ohio.  Over the past years Denison has grown in getting all students not just baseball player is only 20% Ohio.  Surprisingly they do very well in California, Chicago.  Denison wants more diversity on campus which means people from out of state.  This is just information through the grapevine, don't quote me on that though just from what I've heard.  I know next years class has people from Ohio but also have another 8 states represented.  So they are going after that "national" feel that admissions would like. 

Coach Clark from what I"m hearing has left to pursue other opportunities.  I wish the best for him.

Finally got around to looking it up. Coach deegan does have coaching expierience form the Great Lakes summer league. He was the head coach of the Southern Ohio Copperheads.
From Marietta's Site:
QuoteDeegan spent the summer of 2007 as the head coach of the Southern Ohio Copperheads and earned Manager of the Year in the Great Lakes League. Deegan, who guided the Copperheads to the most wins in franchise history with 25, also led Southern Ohio to their best postseason finish in history.

Not sure if thats enough.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 10, 2012, 08:04:14 AM
Quote from: BigRed on May 22, 2012, 02:28:37 PM
I feel like Deegan could be a good choice, only issue though is that one of the preferred list is previous head coaching at the collegiate level.  Does he have head coaching experience?  Also would he need to change his recruiting requirements Denison requires for admittance? 

On the field I feel like he'd be a great person to lead this team, I'm just hopeful he can take this talent to its potential. 

As far as recruiting local Ohio talent, one of the big pushes though from the admissions is to go after people outside Ohio.  Over the past years Denison has grown in getting all students not just baseball player is only 20% Ohio.  Surprisingly they do very well in California, Chicago.  Denison wants more diversity on campus which means people from out of state.  This is just information through the grapevine, don't quote me on that though just from what I've heard.  I know next years class has people from Ohio but also have another 8 states represented.  So they are going after that "national" feel that admissions would like. 

Coach Clark from what I"m hearing has left to pursue other opportunities.  I wish the best for him.
Big Red, any news on who Denison is looking at.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigRed on June 10, 2012, 11:45:36 PM
Sorry I have no idea.  Not hearing too much.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 02, 2012, 10:06:10 AM
I was in Tiffin this weekend to watch my youngest in a tournament. I had the pleasure of meeting Ex Wooster player Zack Vesko http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/bios/vesco_zack_6q9t

He is currently working with Tiffin University Base ball and hoping to latch on someplace as a GA. An outstanding young man. I wish him luck in his endeavors and hope to see him on an opposing bench next year.
Title: Deegan Tabbed as new Baseball coach at Denison.
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 02, 2012, 10:08:30 AM
Just read on Denisons web site: http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/2012062850iwf9

This should be a good pick up for Denison. Hope he gets it going for the Big Red.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on July 03, 2012, 08:15:38 AM
So much for Denison wanting someone with previous head coaching experience.  I was hoping they wouldn't hold to that blindly.  This is a great hire for DU.  Best of luck to Coach Deegan.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 03, 2012, 08:53:41 AM
Dr. I believe they count his time as head coach in the Great Lakes League with the Copper Heads as experience. They made sure to mention it in the article. This should be a good hire. Looking at Marrietta's roster most kids are from Ohio and PA with a couple of east coast kids thrown in. He surely recruit, he will need to learn new territory unless Denison lets him recruit were he wants.

I had heard Mike Clark wanted to recruit Ohio more, but i don't know that he ever did.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 05, 2012, 03:45:06 PM
Some news from the Paints. The roster contains several NCAC players:

JT Miller Wabash: http://pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=298571
Brandon Sega OWU: http://pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=293614
Keenan White Wooster: http://pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=293616
Jack Peck Depauw: http://pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=307840

Looks like Miller is getting the bulk of the work with 28.0 Innings pitched and he has the best ERA of the group, with a 3.54.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 05, 2012, 04:01:45 PM
Lorain Co. Ironmen has two NCAC players both from Oberlin.

Mattius DeDoes http://prospects.bbstats.pointstreak.com/player.html?playerid=299425
Eric Knight http://prospects.bbstats.pointstreak.com/player.html?playerid=299424

Knight has pitched 32 innings with a 7.88 ERA
DeDos has pitched 21 inningsw with a 3.43 ERA 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 05, 2012, 04:08:57 PM
Richmond River Rats

Alexander Sroka Depauw: http://prospects.bbstats.pointstreak.com/player.html?playerid=311712 22.2 innings pitched 2.78 ERA
Dylan Sheldon Depauw: http://prospects.bbstats.pointstreak.com/player.html?playerid=311711 14 innings pitched 5.14 ERA

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 05, 2012, 04:12:07 PM
Slippery Rock Sliders

Michael Chiaro Depauw: http://prospects.bbstats.pointstreak.com/player.html?playerid=333934 9 innings pitched 5.00 ERA
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 05, 2012, 04:17:00 PM
Dubois County Bombers

Casey Devlin Depauw: http://prospects.bbstats.pointstreak.com/player.html?playerid=337443

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on July 05, 2012, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on July 05, 2012, 03:45:06 PM
Some news from the Paints. The roster contains several NCAC players:

JT Miller Wabash: http://pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=298571
Brandon Sega OWU: http://pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=293614
Keenan White Wooster: http://pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=293616
Jack Peck Depauw: http://pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=307840

Looks like Miller is getting the bulk of the work with 28.0 Innings pitched and he has the best ERA of the group, with a 3.54.

Miller's 33 K to 4 BB in those 28 IP is sick.  Those are GREAT numbers. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 05, 2012, 04:21:44 PM
I saw him pitch in the spring and He is a very good Pitcher. Unfortunately my son was the opposing pitcher that day and we could not get him much run support.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 05, 2012, 04:23:41 PM
That's it for the Prospect League I will look through the Great Lakes another day. Looks like Depauw is very connected at least in the prospect league. Jake Martin is doing a good job of getting his players into the league.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 06, 2012, 12:10:42 PM
Not nearly the numbers in the Great Lakes league as the Prospect:

Connor Murphy; Denison; Settlers: http://www.pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=301334; 24 innings pitched 4.13 ERA

Kyle Koski; Wooster; Terriers:  http://www.pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=313452; 12.1 innings pitched 5.11 ERA

That's it those were the only two I found. So far in both leagues it has been all hitchers, I haven't found any position players yet. Think I will check out the PCGBL next, I remember finding some Kenyon guys on those rosters in the past.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 06, 2012, 12:17:54 PM
Nope none in the PGCBL. :'(
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on July 06, 2012, 02:04:23 PM
Not sure about the NCAC, but there are a lot of younger OAC kids playing in the Tri State Collegiate League.  It's a wood bat league in OH and western PA made up of mostly FR/SO college kids.  It's a NABF league.  I know the Canton team has like 5 or 6 OAC kids on it.  All kids who went to HS locally. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 06, 2012, 02:57:33 PM
I know OWU has one or two kids in that league and yeah it looks like local kids, don't think that league has host families. I will eventually get to it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigRed on July 12, 2012, 01:30:13 PM
Bishops Lefty,

The only other one I could find is Duxbury from Denison who is playing in Alaska.

http://alaskabaseball.bbstats.pointstreak.com/team_stats.html?teamid=35699&seasonid=13006&view=pitching

8 games 16 innings 6.19 ERA. 

Hopefully the competition will get him ready for the spring. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 17, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
I checked out the TSCBL, thanks Dr. Acula. There are a few but not many. I had expected to find a few Allegheny players in this league but alas there were not that many. Some teams do not have sites and finding stat's except for a few was not easy, so I did not post stats.

Alleghany A's
No website

Alleghany valley
Zach Jergan Wooster
Zach Washiniski Wooster

Canton Terriers
No NCAC players

Chardon Blizzards
Jake Forstyk - Allegheny
Jake Stang - Ohio Wesleyan for Football

Cleveland Select
No website.

NOB
No NCAC players

Glaciers
Zach Struharik Wooster
Travis Richey Hiram

Pittsburgh Pandas
No NCAC

Premier Baseball
Cannot find site.

Shannon Fence
No site

Toledo Hawks
JJ Buckey Ohio Wesleyan
Colton Poncsak Ohio Wesleyan



Ravenna Arsenals
No site.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on July 18, 2012, 12:39:09 AM
Hello Bishopleftiesdad,

The Tri State Collegiate League has a website with rosters listed that might help with your player search. I would check, but I am not as familiar with the NCAC players as I am with the OAC. The website is www.tsclb.com. If you click on teams, select the team stats you want to check, and choose roster details, you should get the info you are looking for.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 19, 2012, 01:05:11 PM
Quote from: motorman on July 18, 2012, 12:39:09 AM
Hello Bishopleftiesdad,

The Tri State Collegiate League has a website with rosters listed that might help with your player search. I would check, but I am not as familiar with the NCAC players as I am with the OAC. The website is www.tsclb.com. If you click on teams, select the team stats you want to check, and choose roster details, you should get the info you are looking for.

Thanks for the tip, I have tried that and some of the reports do not work, Allegheny A's, or the roster does not have the schools the players attend. while I am reasonably familiar with some of the players, I really need the schools identified so I can tell the NCAC players. otherwise it is compare each roster against every NCAC roster. That may take me a while.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 22, 2012, 12:14:18 PM
Freshman are on campus today for the first time. Waiting to hear from my son how may recruits show up. THis is all rumor mid you, but OWU will have there largest recruiting class in a while. it may be as high as 23. The last couple of years they have only recruited 7-10 guys.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 24, 2012, 03:12:56 PM
Quote from: motorman on August 24, 2012, 02:39:53 PM
With school and fall baseball about to start, here is a final wrap up on Summer in the Prospect League.

The D-3 kids really shone on the mound for the Chillicothe Paints.

Chris Thomas of Heidelberg was 7-0 with a 2.35 ERA in 46 innings with 41Ks and 19 BBs, not including 5.1 shutout innings of 1 hit ball in the playoffs vs. WV Miners.
JT Miller of Wabash was 5-3 with an ERA of 4.41 in 51 innings with 55Ks and 16 BBs.
Brandon Sega of Ohio Wesleyan was 1-1 with an ERA of 5.02 in 43 innings with 34Ks and 16BBs.
Keenan White of Wooster was 2-0 with and ERA of 4.55 in 29.2 innings with 21Ks and 11BBs.
Jack Peck of DePauw was 2-1 with an ERA of 3.86 in 35 innings with 27Ks and 9BBs.

Aaron Hopper did a good job in the field, hitting .330 with 12HRs and 53RBIs in 51 games.

Thanks to motorman for posting this on the OAC board. Most of these kids are in the NCAC so I thought I would post it here as well.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 24, 2012, 05:28:43 PM
News of NCAC players on the Toledo Hawks, a Tri state collegiate League.

Colton Ponzak Avg. .364 in 5 games 11 at bats

JJ buckey       AVG. .313 in 36 games 96 at bats
Both players are with OWU
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BigRed on September 03, 2012, 12:38:22 AM
Tyler Vaske's from Denison professional stats.  Seemed to bounce around a lot this spring.  threw a 1 hitter through 6 tonight.
http://frontier.bbstats.pointstreak.com/player.html?playerid=373320
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 09, 2012, 02:59:07 PM
Fall try outs start Tuesday at Littick field. Son is excited. He counted 27 freshman on campus for baseball. Looks like few or none were lost to summer melt. We will see how many stick after fall practice. This is the largest class in quite a while. They lost 7 seniors:

2 OF- James DiBiassio and Seth Frentsos.
3 IF/DH 1/DH Nathan Strome, 1/DH Tim Knezovich, and SS Steve Gaydos.
2 P - Mason Farr and Kevin Schindler.

This should make for an interesting Fall and early spring. At least one spot in the rotation and 2 OF spots and 2 IF spots up for grabs.

Scrimmages start Thursday. Good luck guys
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 18, 2012, 10:00:21 AM
Was out at OWU scrimmage Saturday. ;D. My son looked good pitching, Although as usual he said he did not throw very well, He always says he doesn't throw well.

The Freshmen looked very good especially at third and second. A few of them look like they will get quite a bit of playing time.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 28, 2012, 08:30:20 PM
Anybody know the format or formula to determine who makes the tournament this year. Heard it was not going to be strictly two from the east and two from the west. Something about a cross over weekend.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on October 04, 2012, 11:27:46 AM
Here's a write up on Wooster's new turf infield.

http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/201209243kztbd

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Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 04, 2012, 12:32:47 PM
Quote from: countyroad on October 04, 2012, 11:27:46 AM
Here's a write up on Wooster's new turf infield.

http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/201209243kztbd

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Great news. Good looking field.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 05, 2012, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: countyroad on October 04, 2012, 11:27:46 AM
Here's a write up on Wooster's new turf infield.

http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/201209243kztbd

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.woosterathletics.com%2Fsports%2Fbsb%2F2012-13%2Fphotos%2F0001%2Fbaseball_turf.jpg%3Fmax_height%3D365%26amp%3Bmax_width%3D500&hash=ebd6b2fcc489bdc599961587b35796b41d4cd1c1)
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Very cool.  This may be a dumb question, but everyone including OF would have to wear turf shoes, correct?

p.s. I couldn't help but read the part about faster, truer hops in the infield and think of some of the Woo guys on here thinking something like "That sounds like bad news AND good news for us!"  Haha.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 05, 2012, 05:27:42 PM
I believe the outfield is Grass. OWU regularly plays on a synthetic field in CHilicothe and they use their regular spikes. I cannot imagine telling your opponents, Yeah when you come to play here make sure you bring turf shoes.

Well this is Pettorini we are talking about so maybe so. ;D (just kidding, he is a great coach and has done a lot for NCAC baseball.)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 05, 2012, 05:45:41 PM
See, it WAS a dumb question.  I guess I'm showing my age a little bit huh?  When I played 10 years ago not only didn't we wear spikes on turf you didn't want to because it probably would have resulted in 2 ACL tears!  The new stuff is much more grass-like it seems.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on October 06, 2012, 07:11:09 AM
Dr. Acula,

Not such a dumb question. My son played in All Pro Freight stadium a few seasons ago, and his team was told absolutely no spikes of any kind. Pitchers were permitted to wear spikes if they were only pitching, if they were batting had to wear turfs. I believe some OHSAA baseball regionals were supposed to be held there his senior year, but had to be moved at the last minute because of the shoe restrictions. He also played in Chillicothe this past summer and there were no shoe restrictions. To make matters even more confusing, one fall his fall team played a series at Huntington Park, which is natural grass, and were told no metal spikes, plastic or turf only. That could have been because it was the off season, and they didn't want to tear up the turf before the bad weather set in. I guess it just depends on how picky your groundskeeper is.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 13, 2012, 02:42:11 PM
OWU releases spring schedule:

http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

Looks pretty good. I would have liked to see Marietta on the schedule to add to owp. They usually play. It must not have worked out this year.

End of regular season has cross over games with the east. As per a friend:

It will be a 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3 matchup from the divisions respectively. 5 and 5 will play each other. It will be a 3 game series and the winners of those series will advance to the conference tourney so you could have all 4 from the west or east.

Mainly it was put into place by the west coaches so it would be more "fair".
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 13, 2012, 08:14:11 PM
Wabash schedule out as well:

http://sports.wabash.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

Looks like they are going to be playing some SAA teams in the spring, Oglethorp, Centre and USA South LaGrange. They also have Div 1 Butler on their schedule again.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 14, 2012, 06:23:10 PM
Depauw schedule out.

http://www.depauw.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/schedule/

They play Marietta twice early. That should help their OWP. They play quite a few HCAC schools.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 14, 2012, 06:31:08 PM
Thats it for the west. Witt and Denison have noy released their 2013 schedules yet.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2012, 12:12:38 PM
Now on to the East.

Wooster: Has not released there 2012 schedule on the athletics website.

Kenyon: They also have not released there schedule. They do have a new athletics website and it is much improved over the old site.

Hiram: http://www.hiramterriers.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule
Not sure if or were they go for spring, it is not listed on there schedule. They open with a PAC team Thiel. Usually Thiel is not one of the stronger PAC teams. Then they play an improved JC team before 4 against one of the Pitt branches branches, Greensburg. Out of conference but in region they also play BW and MU of the OAC. BW improved quite a bit last year and D'youville of the PAC.

Allegheny: http://alleghenygators.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball
They go to Winterhaven between the 3/ and 3/23 probaly playing itn the Russmatt touney. Their out of Conference opponents include Thiel (see Hiram above), Salem Intenational (I know nothing of this team.), Keuka, There is no other way to say this but they are a bad team. I know a young man who plays on the team and he even admits they are bad. I know the coach is trying to improve recruiting by going outside NY but it will take a while. They also play the usual teams in there area Penn st. Behrend and Pitt Geensburg. These are the type of teams Witt feasted on in the early schedule last year. They do finish off with a usually strong Grove City in the PAC.

Oberlin: http://www.goyeo.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball&
They will be playing in the Tucson Invitational Games against some good competition:
Carleton College (MN)    
Williams College (MA)
Gustavus Adolphus College (MN)    
California Lutheran University
Carthage College (WI)    
Hamline University (MN)
Pomona-Pitzer College (CA)
Buena Vista University (IA)
Luther College (IA)    
Oberlin College (OH)    
Middlebury College (VT)    
St. John's University (MN)    
Lewis & Clark College (OR)
From the OAC they play BW and ONU, both of these should be improved over last year.  From The AMCC they play D'Youville, a NAIA team Sienna Hieghts, and a middle of the pack bluffton team from the HCAC


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2012, 12:39:50 PM
Can anybody explain what has happened to Hiram?
When they joined the conference in 2000 they were a consistently at least middle of the pack team sometimes and raising as far as number 3 in 2005. But since 2007 they have been a bottom feeder. The HC has been there for 21 years. They have had as many as 27 wins in a season. Has the schools stopped supporting baseball? Looking at the field it looks like the Outfield fence is that orange snow fencing you see along Highways and open fields in the winter.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on October 16, 2012, 10:36:03 PM
Leftiesdad,

Just had to comment on your opinion of Keuka on Allegheny's schedule. I knew someone on the Keuka team who started last year as a freshman. Actually he was from Dr. Acula's alma mater, Uniontown Lake (which is essentially in Hartville). Transferred back closer to home this year. I think Keuka started the season 2-3, both wins coming against Lancaster Bible College. They lost 21 in a row after that to end at 2-24. Their trip to Lancaster PA was their spring trip. I think the biggest indictment against the program is the number of games played. I don't think they have played 30 games in the last few years. If you are serious about the game, you play all 40 games you can.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 17, 2012, 04:53:33 PM
Motorman,
Exactly I know the weather up there is bad for baseball and recruiting is tough in New York for the private schools with all the SUNY and other state teams to compete with. In most cases there is no way a school like Kueka can compete for NY recruits.

The coach is traveling more for recruits, but any kid who has internet access, can see how few games they play and also that it doesn't look  looks like they try very hard to make up rainouts. If I was looking to play baseball there I would have to have second thoughts on playing there. Most coaches don't last more than 5 years and most last shorter than that.

The kid, suppose he is really a man now, I know who went there father told me that they have been historically bad, but the new coach had support from the school. He was going to recruit kids from the midwest and Ohio, etc, etc and etc, they were going to start to win....

He told me that they told his son he would be the starting 3rd baseman his freshman year. I warned him to take that with a grain of salt and hope he had a chance to compete for third base. Well the kid started at first most the year and did pretty well. But the team was still terrible.

Last season was only the coaches second year and first recruiting class. So we will see, but I hope the kid really loves that school.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 22, 2012, 12:30:57 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2012, 12:39:50 PM
Can anybody explain what has happened to Hiram?
When they joined the conference in 2000 they were a consistently at least middle of the pack team sometimes and raising as far as number 3 in 2005. But since 2007 they have been a bottom feeder. The HC has been there for 21 years. They have had as many as 27 wins in a season. Has the schools stopped supporting baseball? Looking at the field it looks like the Outfield fence is that orange snow fencing you see along Highways and open fields in the winter.

Hiram's field is (was?) really bad.  That orange fence is literally like a snow fence.  Orange, plastic and you can run through it.  I never played on a field that bad in HS, let alone college.  Hiram always seemed to have a couple kids that could really hit, even when they're bad.  Like most teams at the bottom they lack pitching usually.  Jenter has been there forever.  I believe he's a Hiram alum as well.  He's a lifer.  And in all honesty, with that field and a school located in rural Portage County I think any time they're even middle of the pack is a helluva coaching job by him.  The only question I would have is whether there's any sense of urgency considering he's basically got a job for life regardless of results.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 22, 2012, 12:34:26 AM
Quote from: motorman on October 16, 2012, 10:36:03 PM
Leftiesdad,

Just had to comment on your opinion of Keuka on Allegheny's schedule. I knew someone on the Keuka team who started last year as a freshman. Actually he was from Dr. Acula's alma mater, Uniontown Lake (which is essentially in Hartville). Transferred back closer to home this year. I think Keuka started the season 2-3, both wins coming against Lancaster Bible College. They lost 21 in a row after that to end at 2-24. Their trip to Lancaster PA was their spring trip. I think the biggest indictment against the program is the number of games played. I don't think they have played 30 games in the last few years. If you are serious about the game, you play all 40 games you can.

How the heck did a kid from Lake end up in Keuka Park, NY??  I guess maybe the same way a kid from UA ended up there?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 22, 2012, 10:57:27 AM
I cannot post any more details. It would be too easy to identify the young man. I know he went back this year and that the coach really wants the team to be good.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 22, 2012, 11:50:37 AM
I wasn't saying that negatively at all.  I'm sure the new coach is just expanding his recruiting area.  I was just saying it tongue-in-cheek because it's a kid from my hometown going to a D3 school I've never heard of in a place I've never heard of and not because they're good.  It just seemed random because Keuka has been bad.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 22, 2012, 01:07:51 PM
I did not think you were being negative at all, Doctor. I always appreciate your posts and insight. But you are right they have been bad, very bad.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on October 22, 2012, 07:42:12 PM
The player we know from Lake was spotted at a showcase he attended his senior year by the coach from Keuka.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 06, 2012, 09:46:22 AM
Witt has released their Schedule.

http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Earlier schedule looks stronger than last year. They play Trine, Capital and Mount before entering conference play. They do not have anything listed before 03/16. So I am not sure were they are going for spring. Capital and Mount were pretty good last year. Mount made it into the OAC tourney last year.

I do not know much about Trine other than they had a 12-13 playing out of the MIAA.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 06, 2012, 10:06:20 AM
Still waiting for Kenyon's and Denison's schedule. I imagine that with Deegan being the new coach and the date he was hired that they may still be tweaking it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 06, 2012, 10:13:34 AM
Quote from: BigRed on July 12, 2012, 01:30:13 PM
Bishops Lefty,

The only other one I could find is Duxbury from Denison who is playing in Alaska.

http://alaskabaseball.bbstats.pointstreak.com/team_stats.html?teamid=35699&seasonid=13006&view=pitching

8 games 16 innings 6.19 ERA. 

Hopefully the competition will get him ready for the spring.

Looking around at summer leagues I found Colgain started out in the Valley on the River Bandits. Looks like he ended the season on Dig-in baseball in the Maryland Collegiate league.

BigRed - Any Denison news you can give me? I see they have not released their schedule yet. Do you know were they are going for their spring trip? Any idea what tournament?

Were you able to attend any Fall games? How big is the in-comming class. I know Denison lost a boat load of seniors.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 19, 2012, 05:00:33 PM
Kenyons roster is out for 2013:

http://athletics.kenyon.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball&&print=true


Looks like they have 29 guys. If I counted correctly.

Looks like 7 Freshman, Sophomores or Juniors decided not to return.

Those players totaled 31 at bats (17 from one player) and 33 innings pitched. (three starts from one pitcher)

Still no schedule though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 28, 2012, 04:56:32 PM
Kenyon has released their schedule finally.

http://athletics.kenyon.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

They will be at the Matt Russ in fort Myers.

After the spring trip they Face Marietta. Looks like it is a work in progress because there are not many non league games in there. The weekend vs. Witt is the only one listed. Witt is in the west and Kenyon is in the East. And no week day games scheduled.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 28, 2012, 05:18:54 PM
Denison' has released their schedule as well.

http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Very tough schedule early on, just like last year. They play Marietta (no surprise), Heidelburg, Baldwin Wallace, Wheaton and Wooster all down in Port Charlotte for the Snowbird Classic.

From the OAC they play:
Musky, Cap, Ohio Northern, Ott and John Carroll, in addition to Marietta and Heidelburg again.

Throw in Bluffton form the HCAC and Case from the UAA.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 28, 2012, 05:34:27 PM
Denison also released their roster.

http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/roster

Looks like they have 11 Freshman, 9 Sophomore, 4 Juniors and 7 Seniors.

Looks like they only lost 3 guys. All of them were Freshman. There was not enough innings pitched or at bats to account for much.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on January 05, 2013, 11:52:37 AM
Bishopleftiesdad,

OWU Florida games are now on the Snowbird baseball website, even though OWU hasn't gotten them up on their site yet. It is www.snowbirdbaseball.com
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 05, 2013, 08:14:46 PM
Thanks Motorman,
OWU regularly doesn't put the spring games on the schedule. I am not sure why.

It doesn't look like we play you guys in Florida, but we will see your guys after we come back. I will be down there this year. Are you coming down?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on January 06, 2013, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on January 05, 2013, 08:14:46 PM
Thanks Motorman,
OWU regularly doesn't put the spring games on the schedule. I am not sure why.

It doesn't look like we play you guys in Florida, but we will see your guys after we come back. I will be down there this year. Are you coming down?
Yes, wouldn't miss it. Bought plane tickets in Oct, just finished this weekend with hotel and car reservations. Nothing left to do but count the days till we leave. If there is a day we don't have a conflict, maybe I'll wander over to see (scout!) you guys.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 06, 2013, 07:38:10 PM
Quote from: motorman on January 06, 2013, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on January 05, 2013, 08:14:46 PM
Thanks Motorman,
OWU regularly doesn't put the spring games on the schedule. I am not sure why.

It doesn't look like we play you guys in Florida, but we will see your guys after we come back. I will be down there this year. Are you coming down?
Yes, wouldn't miss it. Bought plane tickets in Oct, just finished this weekend with hotel and car reservations. Nothing left to do but count the days till we leave. If there is a day we don't have a conflict, maybe I'll wander over to see (scout!) you guys.

We will be driving down and Camping in our pop up. we will be only a couple minutes from most the fields. Hope Heide is undefeated till they play us. Good luck.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 07, 2013, 06:08:01 PM
Well it cannot be too early to look at last years stats and commenting on favorites etc.. for the NCAC

http://www.northcoast.org/ba/12stats/lgsumm.htm

If OWU wants to make it to the NCAC tournament again they need to improve there fielding and hitting they are 5 and 6 respectively. There is been some movement of positions on the field it looks like. One of the infielders who had a tough year defensively is moving to the outfield. He has the speed and looked pretty good out there in the fall. He is replaced in the infield by a freshman who looked really good in the fall. Looks like one of last years catchers may move to first to replace Tim Knezovich and Nathan Strome. It will be hard to relace Tim k's .989 fielding percentage. The other three options behind the plate, a sophomore and two freshman, looked very good. I do not believe there will be a drop off defensively at catcher. Well see how the middle infield does. Losing Gaydos could hurt he had a .925 fielding last year. I think Short or second is still up for grabs and the early spring will help work that out.

Losing Strome and Knezovich are really going to hurt in the hitting department. In the outfield we lost Seth Frentsos, he will be sorely missed. His bat was clutch in the tournament last year and when he was in a groove he was a very hard out. They lost DiBiasio last spring to a injury and he was missed all season at the top of the lineup. Lawson did well as a replacement defensively and was a surprisingly good hitter. , not a ot of power but he hit the gaps and got on base at a .382 clip.  JJ Buckey is back and has a year more experience. Great defender and very good hitter.

There pitching hopefully should be fine. They return 3 of there 4 weekend starters and picked up some depth for the relief core which was sorely missed last year. Charles Cooper, a freshman who lead the league in Era will be back and hopefully can improve on his win record. Brandon Sega who was not full strength at the beginning of the year should be healthy to start the spring after a good season with the Paints in Chillicothe.Brandon had a .333 era and was 5-3. Steve Skarsten will be back he usually started the first games on the weekend series and had a 2.50 era and was 5-4. The only starting pitcher lost from last spring is Kevin Schindler, he had a .465 ERA and was 3-1. Kevin and Brandon did not only start on the weekend they also started many of the weekday games against the likes of Marietta and Heidelberg.

Good luck to all the rest of the winter. Baseball will be here soon!!!!!!!!!!!  :D



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on January 08, 2013, 11:12:35 AM
Wooster posted it's schedule.

http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/schedule

Open with Marietta on March 10th.  8-)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 10, 2013, 05:58:00 PM
Hiram is fourth in the rankings for the NCAC.  ;D


Where will they end the season?

Who is gonna win the east? Will Kenyon continue where they left off or will Wooster rise back up?

Who will win the west? Will Depauw continue to dominate? Will Denison take a step forward with Deegan in charge?

Let me know what you think? Spring games will be here before we know it.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 19, 2013, 07:04:00 PM
Denison has at least Three commits for 2013:

http://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/OH/Eric-Zmuda-1540682937-9406218753
http://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/OH/Matt-Zmuda-8213964075-2480765391
http://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/IL/Mike-Borkowski-5684097312

Eric and Matt Zmuda, Mike Borowski

I know of a Texas recruit but that is word of mouth only. So that is four for Deegan.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 19, 2013, 07:11:39 PM
I also found a 2013 Depauw recruit.

http://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/IL/Zack-Wade-2570813694

Zack Wade, he is a catcher.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 19, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Found a Wabash Commit for 2013 as well:

http://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/IN/Steven-Curry-2596734801-8452037169

Steven Curry. RHP/ 1st base
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on January 21, 2013, 10:29:34 AM
Tucker Davison, 6'4" (192lbs), 3B/OF from Dallas, Texas has committed to Coach Deegan and Denison University.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 21, 2013, 02:57:25 PM
Quote from: TexasDad on January 21, 2013, 10:29:34 AM
Tucker Davison, 6'4" (192lbs), 3B/OF from Dallas, Texas has committed to Coach Deegan and Denison University.

Welcome to the boards, TexasDad!  Hope you post during the season because the board could use some DU posters for sure.  I realize you won't be as into as next season, but hopefully you'll follow it some this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on January 23, 2013, 03:24:18 PM
Der Acula - Thanks for the welcome. Will do my best from afar.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 23, 2013, 09:23:28 PM
Welcome Texas Dad your input will be welcome. Deegan is doing a fine job of recruiting.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 24, 2013, 04:14:38 PM
D3 preseason poll is out:

http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2013/2013week-0

Wooster gets 4 votes and Depauw gets 3 votes. No other of the NCAC teams listed.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 28, 2013, 03:56:34 PM
Allegheny has there 2013 roster out.

http://alleghenygators.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Looks like the Freshman class has 9 players:
4 OF
2 IF
1 C
1 RHP
1 1B
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on January 28, 2013, 06:35:10 PM
I noticed that earlier Denison had 31 on its roster after the fall cuts. Bishopleftiesdad noticed and reported in an earlier posting. I noticed this morning that they now have 26 on the roster. (9 fresh, 9 soph, 2 jr and 6 senior). Looks like they lost/cut another 5 (2 fresh, 2 jr and 1 senior) from earlier roster. Is this common? Is it likely a combination of grades and vision for role on team in spring catching up with folks? Still getting used to Coach Deegan and his rules? Just wondering from afar.

PS--It was 70 here yesterday. Same in NCAC right? :)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 28, 2013, 11:17:58 PM
I'm an OAC guy, but it doesn't seem uncommon to see some flux. These schools are not cheap. It's always a crapshoot how many will walk back through the door after Xmas break.  The reasons are numerous...probable lack of playing time, home sick, financial, academic. One of the OAC schools had a good pitcher not play his senior year because he was pre-med and he rightly devoted all his time to academics and preparing for the MCAT. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 29, 2013, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on January 28, 2013, 11:17:58 PM
I'm an OAC guy, but it doesn't seem uncommon to see some flux. These schools are not cheap. It's always a crapshoot how many will walk back through the door after Xmas break.  The reasons are numerous...probable lack of playing time, home sick, financial, academic. One of the OAC schools had a good pitcher not play his senior year because he was pre-med and he rightly devoted all his time to academics and preparing for the MCAT.

You are right Dr. +1

OWU is always one of the last to publish their roster. They do this because many times kids do not come back after break. For example OWU had a player that decided to leave after the fall season and try to walk on at a Div 1 school in the spring. It looked like have was going to be a starter for OWU in the spring. His girl friend was at the D1 and he spent every weekend there. The program does not want to list anybody on the roster until spring semester.

You lose kids for any number of reasons. Seniors may decide not to play if, after fall, they do not like there roll. Or as Doctors example above. A lot of kids also do not understand the work load at one of these schools and grades become a factor. At least one kid during my sons freshman year could not get the grades to be allowed to complete. He was out of the school all together by the end of his freshman year because of his grades.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 29, 2013, 11:57:26 AM
OWU roster is out.

http://www.battlingbishops.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

22 Freshman, Down 3 from the Fall.
7   Sophomore
6   JR
5   Seniors.

40 in all. I believe they will be playing at least a limited JV schedule. The goal is to eventually have a full fledged JV squad I believe.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 30, 2013, 01:08:19 PM
NCAC has players named as top DIII players, or players to watch.

http://www.suhornets.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/files/collegiatebaseball13.pdf

Kenyon leads the way with 5.

OWU
James Toland 1b
Charles Cooper lhp

Wooster
Steve Hagen RHP
Billy Farrow 1b
Ed Reese 2b
Jon Ray OF

Depauw
Michael Chiaro RHP
Jason Cohen 1b
Zach Starr SS

Kenyon
Josh Jacobvitz RHP
Tyler Dierke RHP
Nate Lotze 1b
Jake Dunn SS
Jesse Weiss DH
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 01, 2013, 01:41:29 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on January 30, 2013, 01:08:19 PM
NCAC has players named as top DIII players, or players to watch.

http://www.suhornets.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/files/collegiatebaseball13.pdf

Kenyon leads the way with 5.

OWU
James Toland 1b
Charles Cooper lhp

Wooster
Steve Hagen RHP
Billy Farrow 1b
Ed Reese 2b
Jon Ray OF

Depauw
Michael Chiaro RHP
Jason Cohen 1b
Zach Starr SS

Kenyon
Josh Jacobvitz RHP
Tyler Dierke RHP
Nate Lotze 1b
Jake Dunn SS
Jesse Weiss DH

The OAC coaches must have forgotten to send their ballots in.  No one from any of the other schools aside from Etta?  Not even the guys who are pre-season All-Americans are on there.  Kind of odd. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 01, 2013, 03:31:57 PM
Yeah I noticed that as well. JT Miller is also a very good pitcher at Wabash and I would compare him very favorably against some of the players on this list, but nobody from Wabash made this list.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 01, 2013, 04:57:33 PM
Yeah, didn't Miller pitch in one of the good summer leagues?  Or am I thinking of someone else?  For some reason I thought Motorman said he pitched with his son maybe.  I could be way off though!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on February 01, 2013, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on February 01, 2013, 04:57:33 PM
Yeah, didn't Miller pitch in one of the good summer leagues?  Or am I thinking of someone else?  For some reason I thought Motorman said he pitched with his son maybe.  I could be way off though!
Your memory is still working Dr. A, he pitched for the Chillicothe Paints and made the midseason All Star Game. Had a lot of strikeouts per innings pitched.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 13, 2013, 08:20:57 PM
Thank you Dr. Acula for alerting us that the Mid East preview is up early.

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2013/01/Mideast_Preview

All five teams from the west get mention, Depauw, OWU, Wabash, Wittenburg and Denison. Wooster and Kenyon mentioned from the east.

How would everybody rank the NCAC. Here is mine:

Thanks.

Go bishops. OWU first game March 2 in at Transylvania.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 18, 2013, 04:33:52 PM
Wabash and Alleghenny teams start play this weekend:

Wabash Plays on 02/23 in Chillicothe against Otterbein at 3:30 PM. Audio can be found here: http://www.wabash.edu/live

Alleghenny plays a DH, on 02/23 agains John Carroll at 12:00 PM in Beckley WVA. I did not find any links on either schools web sites.

All colleges start non conference play the following week.

We will probably see teh conference coaches poll come out soon.

Good luck all.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 22, 2013, 07:52:00 AM
The NCAC preseason coaches poll has been released:
http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/PreseaonPoll/2013

2013 North Coast Athletic Conference Preseason Baseball Coaches' Poll
(first-place votes in parentheses, followed by total points)
1.    Wooster (9)    96
2.    DePauw (1)    85
3.    Ohio Wesleyan    79
4.    Wabash    67
5.    Allegheny    59
6.    Kenyon    51
7.    Denison    39
8.    Wittenberg    38
9.    Oberlin    24
10.    Hiram    12

I was surprised to see Kenyon so low. They must have lost more than I expected.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 22, 2013, 10:18:43 AM
Wabash is the first to post an article about baseball this season, not related to the coaches poll.

Baseball Team Raising the Stakes in 2013

Article: Baseball http://sports.wabash.edu/news/2013/2/21/BB_0221134026.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2013, 10:04:10 AM
Alleghenny drops first double header of the season against OAC opponent John Carroll.

http://alleghenygators.com/news/2013/2/23/BB_0223130408.aspx

Wabash's games against Ott were cancelled.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2013, 10:05:17 AM
NCAC baseball media guide has been released.

http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/guide/2013
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wabashsid on February 27, 2013, 08:40:06 AM
Just a quick note for everyone. Pat Coleman will receive the Jake Wade Award from the College Sports Information Directors of America this June at the organization's annual convention in Orlando, Florida. The award is presented to a member of the media for their significant contributions in the field of intercollegiate athletics. A well-deserved award for the outstanding work Pat provides in the coverage of Division III student-athletes. I will be pleased to be able to congratulate him in person later this year, but thought I would pass this along. You can read more about the award here:

http://www.cosida.com/news.aspx?id=3977 (http://www.cosida.com/news.aspx?id=3977)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 27, 2013, 09:38:07 AM
The new D3 Baseball top 25 is out for week 1.

http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2013/2013week-0

Wooster has dropped out going form 4 points in the "Others Receiving Votes" to not appearing.
Depauw went from 3 points to 17 in "Others Receiving Votes"
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 01, 2013, 08:26:49 PM
OWU games cancelled. Transy's field is unplayable.
http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2013/3/1/BA_03012013.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 01, 2013, 08:31:47 PM
Wabash starts their season against Baldwin Wallace in Nashville.
http://sports.wabash.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2013, 09:27:23 AM
OWU releases season preview.
http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2013/3/1/BA_2013pre_5.aspx?path=baseball
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2013, 09:37:42 AM
Woosters season preview.
http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/201302256hey4w
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2013, 10:08:32 AM
Allegheny preview released.
http://alleghenygators.com/news/2013/2/22/BB_0222131210.aspx?path=baseball
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2013, 10:09:57 AM
Wittenberg preview and media guide.
http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/outlook
http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/sports/bsb/viewbooks/2013
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2013, 10:20:55 AM
Hiram's season preview:

http://www.hiramterriers.com/sports/bsb/2012-13/releases/20130225a5ibmt
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 02, 2013, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: wabashsid on February 27, 2013, 08:40:06 AM
Just a quick note for everyone. Pat Coleman will receive the Jake Wade Award from the College Sports Information Directors of America this June at the organization's annual convention in Orlando, Florida. The award is presented to a member of the media for their significant contributions in the field of intercollegiate athletics. A well-deserved award for the outstanding work Pat provides in the coverage of Division III student-athletes. I will be pleased to be able to congratulate him in person later this year, but thought I would pass this along. You can read more about the award here:

http://www.cosida.com/news.aspx?id=3977 (http://www.cosida.com/news.aspx?id=3977)

Awesome.  The amount of good Pat and crew do for D3 athletics is amazing. This is THE source for D3 sports. Given the number of kids that encompasses its a very, very well deserved honor. Congrats Pat!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2013, 08:18:50 PM
That is great news Dr. Pat truly deserves it.

In other news kenyon starts tomorrow in Florida at the Gene Cusic Classic against Anna Maria. I really think they will finish higher than expected in the conference. The cross over games may do them in though.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2013, 01:41:06 PM
Kenyon winning 3-0 over Anna Maria top of third.

http://livestats.kenyon.edu/baseball/xlive.htm

Wabash beating Baldwin Wallace 4-2 bottom of second.

http://www.sidearmstats.com/wabash/baseball/scoreboard.aspx
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2013, 01:56:58 PM
Wabash's J.T miller has struck out 8 in 3 innings.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2013, 02:13:25 PM
BW tied it up in the top of the fourth with a sacrifice fly by Chontos, toughey scored.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2013, 02:14:12 PM
Kenyon up to 7-0 in the fourth.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2013, 02:22:07 PM
J.T Miller is done for the day for Wabash. He is being replaced by N. Novack.

IP    hits  runs   er   bb  SO 
4        6     4       4    4    8
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2013, 02:25:41 PM
BW has taken the lead 5-4 bases loaded no outs.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2013, 02:37:09 PM
BW up 7-4 over Wabash. Game is in the bottom of 5

Kenyon still winning over Anna Maria 7-0, 5th.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2013, 04:01:38 PM
Wabash put up a fight in the ninth but still loses 10-11 to BW.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2013, 04:03:40 PM
Kenyon holds on to win 7-0.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2013, 06:39:26 PM
Wabash drops the night cap 6-3.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2013, 06:40:22 PM
Kenyon drops night cap 1-4.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2013, 08:37:28 PM
Kenyon sweeps Widner today.
4-2 and 8-3.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 05, 2013, 09:07:37 AM
Excuse me for Blatantly stealing form NCAC's page.

Here is the update for all baseball teams in the NCAC, quite a few idle due to weather. Looks like OWU is going to lose another game due to weather. It is not looking good for the game Weds., against Capital.

http://www2.northcoast.org/about/weeklyrelease/3-4-13

Quote from: NCAC Web Page
ALLEGHENY had a pair of scheduled games against Pitt.-Bradford postponed on Sunday due to inclement weather.

DENISON was idle last week.

DEPAUW saw its weekend in Xenia, Ohio, washed out due to inclement weather. The Tigers were scheduled to play four games over the two-day stretch against Anderson and Marietta.

HIRAM opened the 2013 season with a doubleheader split against Ohio Northern in Fort Myers, Florida. The Terriers dropped a 15-1 decision against the Polar Bears in game one, but rebounded with a 4-3 victory in the nightcap. Sophomore pitcher Nate Weiss (Warren, MI/University Liggett) picked up the win for Hiram in game two after allowing three runs on five hits in 7.0 innings of work. The Terriers trailed ONU, 3-1, heading into the bottom of the sixth inning, but turned that into a 4-3 advantage after back-to-back RBI singles from sophomore Mark Leone (Boardman, OH/Boardman) and junior Shane Haidet (Alliance, OH/Marlington), while a bases loaded walk by senior Torrey Stimson (Hudson, OH/Walled Lake, MI) gave the Terriers the one-run cushion heading into the seventh inning.

KENYON split a doubleheader against Anna Maria in its 2013 lid lifter in Fort Myers, Florida, on Sunday. The Lords cruised to a 7-0 victory in game one, but were upended by Anna Maria in the nightcap by a 4-1 margin. KC senior Tyler Dierke (Hudson, WI/Hudson) recorded a career-high 12 strikeouts in 6.0 innings of work in game one, while junior Nate Lotze (Littleton, CO/Dakota Ridge) led the offensive effort in game one, going 2-for-3 at the plate with one double and two RBI.

OBERLIN had a Saturday doubleheader against Holy Cross College (IN) postponed due to inclement weather.

OHIO WESLEYAN saw its three-game weekend series against Transylvania washed out due to inclement weather in Kentucky.

WABASH opened its season on Sunday with a pair of losses against Baldwin Wallace at Franklin-Simpson High School in Kentucky. The Yellow Jackets prevailed 11-10 in game one, before posting a 6-3 triumph in the nightcap. Senior Montana Timmons (Lafayette, IN/McCutcheon) combined to go 3-for-5 at the plate with two RBI, while senior Robby Hechinger (Brownsburg, IN/Brownsburg) also collected three hits in six at-bats on the day.

WITTENBERG opened its season with a 12-7 win over Saint Vincent at the RussMatt Invitational in Winter Haven, Florida. Sophomore center fielder Brandon Reaman (Dayton, OH/Northmont) and senior Graham Wolff (Lake Bluff, IL/Lake Forest) both went 3-for-4 with two runs scored and two walks on the afternoon, while freshman right-hander Jordan Hitt (South Charleston, OH/Southeastern) picked up the win on the mound in his first collegiate appearance after allowing three earned runs and striking out five in 5.0 innings of work.

WOOSTER was idle last week.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 06, 2013, 10:41:32 AM
East
Kenyon is at the top of the east at 4-1 with wins over, Anna Maria (1), Widener (2) and Wilmington (1), and a loss to Anna Maria.
Hiram is 3-2 with wins over, ONU (1), and Eastern Nazarene (2). There losses are to, ONU, and Domincan.
Allegheny is still 0-2 and hasn't gotten a game in since being swept by John Carroll.
Oberlin and Wooster have not started play yet.

West
Wittenberg is 3-0 with wins over, St. Vincent, and WPI twice.
Wabash is 2-2 with sweeping Oglethrpe, and being swept by Baldwin Wallace.
OWU, Depauw and Denison have not gotten games in.

OWU's game against Capital will be cancelled to day as well. They wont start play now till next week in Florida.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2013, 10:14:17 AM
Denison's season Preview is on Video. Check it out here:

http://denisonbigred.com/landing/index

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2013, 10:17:42 AM
Denison starts off with a brutal schedule:
Marietta, Heidelberg, Baldwin Wallace, Wheaton (ma), and Wooster.

Kudos to coach Deegan on setting up such a stiff schedule. It will pay off.
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Post by: Spence on March 07, 2013, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2013, 10:17:42 AM
Denison starts off with a brutal schedule:
Marietta, Heidelberg, Baldwin Wallace, Wheaton (ma), and Wooster.

Kudos to coach Deegan on setting up such a stiff schedule. It will pay off.

He'll certainly find out what he has in a hurry. I may just be believing too much in the coach, but I think Denison could surprise some people.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2013, 01:46:58 PM
He lost a lot last year, but I have had the opportunity to talk to Coach Deegan, when he was recruiting my son. As much we liked Coach Brewer, my son would have gone to the school because of Deegan. He will get some good talent htere quickly. He has already hit the recruiting trail pretty hard and has some fine young men coming in next year.

Last year there was some talent there, it just did not work out with Clark. With some of what he has coming back he will do well.

The NCAC has cross over games the weekend before the tournament. 1 in the east plays 4 in the west etc. The top four teams advance into the tournament. Even if they end up being a 4 in the west playing a 1 in the east, I can would not want to face them at the end of the season with the tournament on the line. I will not be surprised to see them make it into the NCAC tournament this way. I think they will be very good by the end of the year. If they can get into the tournament, they may have a shot at winning it.

In the future I believe they will be a regular participant, unless the school gets in the way. But why hire a guy like Deegan and then get in his way?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2013, 01:48:49 PM
Plus +k Spence, just for posting in the NCAC forum. It gets lonely in here.
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Post by: TexasDad on March 07, 2013, 03:39:00 PM
But some of us just enjoy lurking from afar. Keep posting. Great learning tool for the newbies. ;D
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2013, 03:40:41 PM
+k for you as well thanks for the post.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 07, 2013, 05:58:41 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2013, 01:48:49 PM
Plus +k Spence, just for posting in the NCAC forum. It gets lonely in here.

I need all I can get, as you see.

Denison has 4 of their top 5 in ERA back from last year and yet Deegan talked in his previous video about the young, unproven pitchers. Additionally, Denison didn't get outhit or outpitched last year. They got outexecuted. That won't happen anymore.

Very few D-III schools have EVER been lucky enough to hire someone with Deegan's experience and track record. I really wish he had gone to another region. :)
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2013, 09:06:08 PM
Yeah I wish he had too, or at least another conference. The NCAC west is going to get even tougher.

There was one game I feel they were out pitched.

Cooper went 8 IP 5 hits 2 runs 1 earned 2 bb 7 so.

Denisons pitcher went 7 ip 10 hits 4 runs 4 earned runs 1 bb and 5 so.

But you are right it did not happen often and it will happen even less this year. Like I said I will not be surprised to see them in the NCAC tournament.
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Post by: Spence on March 08, 2013, 01:46:14 AM
I'm just looking at the season stats. I don't really see anyone...I watch some video feeds and live stats other than Marietta who I listen to online as often as possible. Fortunately, baseball translates to numbers very well.

Their BA was .275, BA against - .275.
SLG .340; against .349

Their pitchers only gave up about 40 more baserunners (not counting errors) than the opposition in 330ish innings. They actually struck out 30+ more batters than the opponent. They played competitive games with some really good teams early in the year. It seemed like they got worse as the season went on.

They were 13-26 because they fielded .940 (which also affects pitching because it forces you to get extra outs) and because of not generating enough runs despite their batting average and slugging. They could have been much closer to a .500 team with a lot of returning contributors.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2013, 08:09:31 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2013, 01:46:58 PM
He lost a lot last year, but I have had the opportunity to talk to Coach Deegan, when he was recruiting my son. As much we liked Coach Brewer, my son would have gone to the school because of Deegan. He will get some good talent htere quickly. He has already hit the recruiting trail pretty hard and has some fine young men coming in next year.

Last year there was some talent there, it just did not work out with Clark. With some of what he has coming back he will do well.

The NCAC has cross over games the weekend before the tournament. 1 in the east plays 4 in the west etc. The top four teams advance into the tournament. Even if they end up being a 4 in the west playing a 1 in the east, I can would not want to face them at the end of the season with the tournament on the line. I will not be surprised to see them make it into the NCAC tournament this way. I think they will be very good by the end of the year. If they can get into the tournament, they may have a shot at winning it.

In the future I believe they will be a regular participant, unless the school gets in the way. But why hire a guy like Deegan and then get in his way?

Denison is going to be good sooner rather than later.  Anyone who was around when Craddock was head coach at DU knows you can win there. They won 30+ games more than once and seemed like they were an absolute lock to win 10-12 games in conf play every year.  That's where they're headed in my mind.

Denison is a great school with nice facilities in a cool little college town that just so happens to be 30 min from Columbus.  You give a coach like Deegan those tools and he's going to succeed. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 08, 2013, 09:22:16 PM
Yes, Denison will be better soon. He is already doing quite well in recruiting. He is really recruiting nationally. I he has got kids from Texas California and other baseball hotbeds.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 09, 2013, 01:28:35 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 08, 2013, 09:22:16 PM
Yes, Denison will be better soon. He is already doing quite well in recruiting. He is really recruiting nationally. I he has got kids from Texas California and other baseball hotbeds.

They always have. I'd be interested to know how they get info and get kids to visit from such faraway places.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 10, 2013, 10:24:15 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 09, 2013, 01:28:35 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 08, 2013, 09:22:16 PM
Yes, Denison will be better soon. He is already doing quite well in recruiting. He is really recruiting nationally. I he has got kids from Texas California and other baseball hotbeds.

They always have. I'd be interested to know how they get info and get kids to visit from such faraway places.

A assistant and former player I knew said that the administration wanted the athletics teams to mirror the student population. Denison does not get too many Central Ohio kids, So Clark was encouraged to recruit from Denison Hotbeds in New York and California. So they probably give the baseball team a decent recruiting budget. It can be tough to get the New York baseball players because you are competing with the NY state schools.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2013, 12:07:53 PM
Denison last first game to St. Joseph 8-1. They are in the bottom of the third now and losing to Marietta 5-1.

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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2013, 12:14:24 PM
Kenyon is 6-2 on the season.

Wins against:
ANNA MARIA COLLEGE
WIDENER UNIVERSITY
WILMINGTON COLLEGE
MITCHELL COLLEGE
SALVE REGINA UNIVERSITY

Losses to:
ANNA MARIA COLLEGE
MITCHELL COLLEGE

They finish up their spring trip against:
OLIVET COLLEGE
UNIV. OF PITTSBURGH-BRADFORD
WESTMINSTER COLLEGE (MO)

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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2013, 12:16:01 PM
Denison now losing 7-1 top of 4 to Marietta. Remember though these are the first games Denison has played this spring.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2013, 12:21:22 PM
Wooster lost a shoot out to Marietta 15 -10.

Hagen gave up 7 earned runs in 4 innings pitched.

College of Wooster     IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
-----------------------------------------------
Steve Hagen.........     4.0  7  8  7  2  4 17 23
Zach Woullard.......    1.0  1  2  1  1  0  4  6
Jon Huisel..........        1.0  2  2  2  1  1  4  5
Jon Rothman.........    1.0  0  0  0  0  0  3  3
Kyle Koski..........       0.1  2  3  2  1  1  3  5
Zach Klein..........       0.2  1  0  0  1  1  3  4


Marietta Mulvey went 6 innings and gave up 4 earned runs.

Marietta College       IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
-----------------------------------------------
Mike Mulvey.........     6.1  8  5  4  2  4 26 29
Anthony Knittel.....   0.1  0  3  0  3  1  4  7
Evan Brockmeier..... 2.1  3  2  2  2  0  9 12
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2013, 12:37:24 PM
As posted earlier Depauw was swept by Manchester with a commanding 2-10 on both ends of the double header.


Game 1

Junior Michael Chiaro takes the loss after pitching 3.1 innings and allowing 4 earned runs. Junior Alex Skora finished the game pitching the next 5.2 innings and giving up 3 earned runs.

DePauw University           ip    h    r    er    bb    so    wp    bk    hbp    ibb    ab    bf    fo    go
Michael Chiaro L,0-1     3.1    6    7    4    4    4    1    0    0    0    16    20    1    3
Alex Sroka                     5.2    6    3    3    2    7    1    0    1    0    22    25    5    4


As a whole Depauw got 5 hits in 32 at bats.

Game 2

Depauw used 5 pitchers in game 2.
Sophomore Alex Peck went 5 innings with 2 earned runs.

DePauw University      ip    h    r    er    bb    so    wp    bk    hbp    ibb    ab    bf    fo    go
Jack Peck L,0-1            5.0    3    2    2    3    2    0    0    1    0    17    21    4    8
Jordan Niespodziany       1.2    5    5    5    2    1    2    0    0    0    11    13    3    2
Conor Heneghan             0.1    0    0    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    1    2    1    0
Dylan Sheldon             1.0    1    1    0    0    0    1    0    0    0    4    5    2    1
Joe Wojda                     1.0    3    2    2    0    1    0    0    0    0    6    6    2    0

Depauw had 5 hits on 31 at bats.




Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2013, 12:51:37 PM
Heading off to OWU's fist game. They are playing Baldwin Wallace.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 12, 2013, 05:01:52 PM
Woo gets thumped by Etta 15-10, gets a W over Mt. St. Joes 13-8. After 2 games it looks like the Scots need to out-slug the opponents. Still early,we'll see if the pitching shows up.
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Post by: Spence on March 14, 2013, 02:04:11 PM
Denison and coach Mike Deegan got their first win, 12-4 over #3 ranked Wheaton (Mass.).

FR Ian Walsh was the winning pitcher in his first start.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 15, 2013, 06:26:55 PM
Denison came back from deficits in the 9th and 10th to beat Wooster, 5-4 in 10 innings. Andrew Touhy drew a bases loaded walk to drive in the winning run.

Looks like coach Deegan is starting to build a winning spirit in Granville already.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 18, 2013, 12:35:40 PM
Yup they should be dangerous this year. Had a rough start in Florida but they quickly turned it around.

They also had one of the smaller rosters at the Snow Bird. Looks like they are going to be tough.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 18, 2013, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 18, 2013, 12:35:40 PM
Yup they should be dangerous this year. Had a rough start in Florida but they quickly turned it around.

They also had one of the smaller rosters at the Snow Bird. Looks like they are going to be tough.

They need to hit and field much better. It will be interesting to see if that comes around against the northern schedule.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 18, 2013, 02:13:48 PM
OWU Could have had a better trip to Florida. They come out of the trip 4-3. Three of those wins are NOT against what I would call quality opponents, Mount St. Joseph's (2), and  Wheaton (ill).

Starting pitching.
Looks like Cooper will be solid again and is most likely the number 1.
Sega struggled in his first game. He had not pitched in a meaningful game since Aug 2 for the Chillicothe Paints. He took the Fall off to intern in New York for his Major.
Hock may have looked like the best of the three. He gave a very solid 80 pitch performance against Marietta. And again in relief in Cooper's start against St. Joseph's. He struggled some in relief last year, but has seemed to have righted the ship.

The fourth pitcher could be Paul Priddy, Freshman Nick Munger who in 10 innings pitched has not given up an earned run., or Blake Adkins.

Relief pitching.
This really needs to improve. Paul Priddy did fine in relief of Cooper at BW, but could end up in the rotation. The bull pen gave up two huge innings one to Marrietta, after a very nice outing by Hock, and in the game against Mountclair state. The game was close until the 8th when relief gave up 6 runs.

As is usually the case errors played a part in some of these runs.

Hitting.
Looks like the Freshman can hit. They hit very well in their first appearances. Hutchinson is hitting .429 and is a good addition to the infield. Jack Clark does not hit for power but is always on base, either getting walked or hitting a single. He clearly goes to the plate with a plan. Caputo is hitting well with only the first 5 games in the books he is hitting .450. Steve Moore is at .375.

I would like to see the upper classmen go to the plate with more of a plan. It seems they are putting a lot of pressure on themselves and need to have some fun. In the last games, however,  the upper class-men started to hit. Toland drilled some down the third base line and hit some deep fly balls and looks like he is getting honed in.  Ben Steele has been a very pleasant surprise. After spending the fall playing football for the 9-1 bishops he is hitting at a .333 clip as the DH. Hock has hit very well especially since he has not seen many at bats since high school as he has been mostly a pitcher only. The stats are not up to date yet but he hit very well in the DH against MT. St. Joes. As he gets used to standing at the plate instead of the mound I think this will improve..

Fielding
It is early in the season but if this team does not get the errors fixed it could be a long season. Out of the seven games down south I do not think there was a game with less than 2 errors. Sometimes in critical situations. 
Bott has made some outstanding plays at short and it looks like he will not see a fall off from losing Gaydos. Hutchinson had been good at second. Moving Toland from Catcher to first has gone smoothly as well. He still has some learning to do but there has been several throws in the dirt to first that he has been very good at picking, especially for this early in the season. Hock has been good

At catcher and there there is a lot of flexibility Looks like Aaron Caputo has the position locked up and he handles the pitchers well. When Hock pitches or needs a day off for his arm Caputo can come in and handle third well. When Caputo is at third it will probably be either Finn or Miller. Miller saw more time during the spring behind the plate and handled the pitchers and the rest of the team well. He is very vocal and has a good presence back there.

In the outfield it looks like we will be the most experienced part of the squad. There may have been one OF error the whole week. Looks like Lawson will be in left with Vollenweider in center and Buckey in right.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 18, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 18, 2013, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 18, 2013, 12:35:40 PM
Yup they should be dangerous this year. Had a rough start in Florida but they quickly turned it around.

They also had one of the smaller rosters at the Snow Bird. Looks like they are going to be tough.

They need to hit and field much better. It will be interesting to see if that comes around against the northern schedule.

I think they will be up and down this year. but I think they will be in the cross over games at least as the fourth seed. And in a short 1 game series anything is possible.

There win against Wheaton was nice but there were a lot of errors by Wheaton in that game. Not sure Wheaton took them seriously and may have been looking ahead to another game.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 21, 2013, 10:01:19 AM
Wabash better get off to a hot start in the NCAC. They play Witt and Depauw at home to start NCAC play then finish the season away at Denison and OWU. They do not have a home game scheduled after 04/17.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 21, 2013, 10:21:54 AM
Depauw has not got off to the hot start they had last year. Currently they are 2-3 with 2 losses to Manchester (in the top 25) and a split with Concordia Chicago.

They now start there spring trip down south in the RussMatt invitational.
While in Winter Haven they will play
Southern Maine DH
St. Olaf DH
Wisc Stephens point
St. Thomas.

None of these are Mid East region teams so they will not count towards their SOS for a pool C bid. With 70% in region games required next year, and all games counting towards SOS next year, I am interested to see how Depauw schedules. Do they still go to the Russ Matt?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 21, 2013, 10:40:47 AM
Witt is 6-1.

Wins
St. Vincent (3-6)
WPI (5-9) X2
Union (3-3) x2
Aurora (6-3)

Losses
East Mennonite (11-10)

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 21, 2013, 10:58:25 AM
Kenyon is off to a hot start again this year 11-3. They do not have a signature win yet though.

Wins
Anna Maria College (2-7)
Widener University (5-6) x2
Wilmington College (3-10)
Mitchell College (10-18)
Salve Regina University (7-3) x2
Olivet College (5-3)
Univ. of Pittsburgh-Bradford (4-6) x2
Westminster College (MO) (3-3)


Losses
Anna Maria College
Mitchell College
Westminster College (MO)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 21, 2013, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 21, 2013, 10:58:25 AM
Kenyon is off to a hot start again this year 11-3. They do not have a signature win yet though.

Wins
Anna Maria College (2-7)
Widener University (5-6) x2
Wilmington College (3-10)
Mitchell College (10-18)
Salve Regina University (7-3) x2
Olivet College (5-3)
Univ. of Pittsburgh-Bradford (4-6) x2
Westminster College (MO) (3-3)


Losses
Anna Maria College
Mitchell College
Westminster College (MO)

They play 6 games against Marietta and Wooster next week. I suspect we'll know a lot more about them then. :)

No idea why they agreed to stack those as such, but they did. Will be interesting to see how creative they get with pitching in the Marietta games.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 21, 2013, 12:28:22 PM
Looks like Hiram is off to a good start for them, they are 5-6.

Wins
Ohio Northern (6-4)
Eastern (Mass.) Nazarene (2-6) x2
Finlandia (Mich.) (1-7) x2

Losses
Ohio Northern
Dominican (Ill.) (3-8)
Newbury (3-8) x2
Olivet (5-3)
Thiel (5-4)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 21, 2013, 12:38:18 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 21, 2013, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 21, 2013, 10:58:25 AM
Kenyon is off to a hot start again this year 11-3. They do not have a signature win yet though.

Wins
Anna Maria College (2-7)
Widener University (5-6) x2
Wilmington College (3-10)
Mitchell College (10-18)
Salve Regina University (7-3) x2
Olivet College (5-3)
Univ. of Pittsburgh-Bradford (4-6) x2
Westminster College (MO) (3-3)


Losses
Anna Maria College
Mitchell College
Westminster College (MO)

They play 6 games against Marietta and Wooster next week. I suspect we'll know a lot more about them then. :)

No idea why they agreed to stack those as such, but they did. Will be interesting to see how creative they get with pitching in the Marietta games.
Your right Spence it will be interesting. Wooster will be conference games of coarse. So do they throw any of their weekend guys? Probably not Dierke or Jacobvitz. My guess is Krahn and Byers, will get one against Marietta.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 21, 2013, 01:49:50 PM
I know how I'd do it, but I don't want to give anyone any ideas. :)

Coach Schaly was a master of, well, just about everything, but playing so many more games than many teams, he ran into this situation a lot.

EDIT TO ADD: Forecast is not looking good to play on Tuesday. Wednesday looks a little better, but who knows if that's how they'd choose to do it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 22, 2013, 02:14:25 PM
I know this is way early but I wanted to make a shout out to Freshmen Pete Munger at OWU.

As per the NCAA stats he is ranked:
1 in ERA along 15 other D3 players.
61 in Hits Allowed Per Nine Innings (150 ranked)
44 in Walks Allowed Per Nine Innings (150 ranked)
49 in WHIP (100 ranked)

On the down side OWU has 6 Players ranked 1 in Hit Batters (150 ranked)
Justin Seffernick
J.J. Buckey
Billy Cooper
Nick Huff
Peter Munger
Andrew Parise

Others stats
Zach Bott is ranked 44 with 2 home runs.


Sean Vollenweider 1, and another freshman, Taylor Hutchison 111 for Toughest to Strike Out (150 ranked)

Charles Cooper is Ranked 51 in ERA.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 22, 2013, 07:33:45 PM
Owu picks up a game against Adrian tomorrow. Can't wait to see how they perform.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 22, 2013, 09:58:27 PM
Allegheny is currently finishing up their spring trip and are at 6-4.

Sophomore Ramsdell throws a 7 inning no Hitter.

http://alleghenygators.com/news/2013/3/22/BB_0322132415.aspx
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 23, 2013, 02:25:35 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 22, 2013, 07:33:45 PM
Owu picks up a game against Adrian tomorrow. Can't wait to see how they perform.

They beat Heidelberg 8-1 at home today.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 23, 2013, 11:57:25 AM
yea,h  I saw that. Each team used a lot of pitchers. Adrian's pitchers went 1, 1.2,2.1 and 3. Heidi went 2,1,3,1,1,1.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 25, 2013, 11:23:26 AM
OWU played Adrian on Saturday and lost 5-4. We played them well through the first 5 innings. And Cooper left the with a 3-1 lead. OWU was able to get to their starter, but could not do much after he left.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 27, 2013, 06:09:09 PM
OWU is in for a brutal weekend. Thomas More Thursday, DH with Case Western on Friday and DH on Saturday vs. ONU. The depth of the pitching staff will be tested. I hope all the starters last at least 6 innings.

http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

Gotta cut down on the walks.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 28, 2013, 10:18:19 AM
NCAC play starts this weekend the only two teams not in league actions are OWU (see previous post) and Allehgeny who faces Thiel and Kueka.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 28, 2013, 10:56:45 AM
Depauw (5-6) has been scoring lots of runs out of the 11 games they have played they have only scored less than 6, 3 times, and two of those were losses to Manchester.

Only problem is they are giving up just as many runs.

As a staff they have an ERA of 5.80. Looking at the guys with the most innings Sroka, Peck and Chiaro none of them has an ERA of under 5.50.

They have played some stiff competition though. They rank 59 per D3baseball.com. But they have also faced out of region teams such as UW-Stevens point and St. Thomas.

Those two team's and Manchester are in the top 25.

I expect their ERA to come down once NCAC league play starts. Sroka, Peck, and Chiaros era at the end of last season were less than 4.

Losing Donavan, Ross, And Manson had to hurt though.

Good luck to all teams this weekend.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 28, 2013, 06:50:50 PM
OWU just beat Thomas Moore (8-5) 5-4. Nine inning game. Tomorrow OWU has a DH vs. CWRU.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 28, 2013, 07:01:05 PM
As Spence pointed out on the OAC board, the ONU game with Marietta was moved form the 29th to the 30th. That postpones the OWU/ONU game again. I hope OWU can pick up some games for the 30th.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 28, 2013, 10:50:23 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 28, 2013, 06:50:50 PM
OWU just beat Thomas Moore (8-5) 5-4. Nine inning game. Tomorrow OWU has a DH vs. CWRU.

Good win over a team that I think is pretty decent.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 29, 2013, 08:21:56 AM
I thought so. It was nice to see us hitting with runners in scoring position and getting the Sacrifices flies to advance and score runners.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 31, 2013, 06:25:51 PM
Very good split of 4 games for Denison at DePauw. They weren't far from winning more than that either.

Deegan continues to search for a regular lineup and some defensive consistency, but the pitching seems to be there.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2013, 08:17:29 PM
At the end of the first week of NCAC play here are the standings.

           W   L   Win %   W   L   Win %   Streak   Last 10
Oberlin   2   0   1.000   8   8   0.500   Won 2   2-8
Wooster   3   1   0.750   10   6   0.625   Won 1   7-3
Kenyon   1   3   0.250   12   6   0.667   Lost 1   6-4
Allegheny   0   0   0.000   9   5   0.643   Won 3   8-2
Hiram   0   2   0.000   9   8   0.529   Lost 2   4-6



NCAC West    
                  W   L   Win %   W   L   Win %   Streak   Last 10
Wittenberg   3   1   0.750   11   2   0.846   Won 1   8-2
Denison           2   2   0.500   7   8   0.467   Won 1   6-4
DePauw           2   2   0.500   7   8   0.467   Lost 1   5-5
Wabash           1   3   0.250   7   10   0.412   Lost 1   5-5
Ohio Wesleyan   0   0   0.000   6   5   0.545   Lost 1   5-5

Wesleyan takes a split with Case and goes to 6 -5. Saturdays games against ONU were postponed so ONU could make up games postponed on Friday against Marietta.




Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 02, 2013, 10:47:48 AM
ONU rescheduled 1 with OWU. They will play a game Thursday at OWU. Still one game to make up.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 02, 2013, 12:33:04 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on December 29, 2005, 03:10:56 PM
Here are the baseball web pages for all of the NCAC schools, preceded by the NCAC site itself:

NCAC Baseball: http://www.northcoast.org/ba/ba.html

Eastern Division

Allegheny: http://www.allegheny.edu/athletics/baseball/index.php

Hiram: http://www.hiram.edu/athletics/menssports/baseball.html

Kenyon: http://athletics.kenyon.edu/x501.xml

Oberlin: http://www.oberlin.edu/athletic/varsity/baseball/Default.html

Wooster: http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/default.php

Western Division

Denison: http://www.denison.edu/athletics/ba_stats.html

Earlham: http://www.earlham.edu/~awpe/baseball/index.html

OWU: http://bishops.owu.edu/baseball.html

Wabash: http://www.wabash.edu/sports/baseball

Wittenberg: http://www4.wittenberg.edu/news/athletics/baseball/index.html

Wooster can you update the original post to include Depauw and remove Earlham?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 02, 2013, 12:59:59 PM
My take on OWU's pitching so far this season.

What should have been a strength coming into the season, with 3 starters expected back and with several players prepared to step in the fourth, has become an issue. The rotation lost one senior who is no longer playing and the other senior has yet to return to form.

The rotation has two quality starters right now.
Cooper is doing well. it looks like he is starting to get his walks under control. His Era is 1.66 and his strike outs are starting to rise.
Hock is also doing well he has two starts against really quality teams and did well. He pitched against Marietta in Florida, for four solid innings only giving up 2 earned runs before hitting his early season pitch count. He had another start against a quality team, Thomas More and gave up 3 earned runs with 4 strike outs, and only 1 walk, in 7 innings.

Possible quality starters.
Munger is a freshman and played very well in Florida beating a pretty good Wheaton (ill) team. In six innings he did not give up a earned run. He did not strike anyone out and did not walk any one. His other start against a quality team came against Case. His first two innings went well, but after that he was having problems getting strikes called. He did get 3 strike outs but they came in the first two innings. He ended up getting 6 earned runs. He is a freshman and should continue to improve.

The 4th starter will probably cone from a group of 3, Adkins, Sega or by committee.

With Hock out of the Bull pen and into the Rotation this could be an issue. Two of the relievers from last season have been ineffective this year. Adkins has done well, but he may end up in the rotation. Sega could end up here as well and has done very well as a reliever in the past. Marker could also end up being a bright spot here. Hopefully one of the freshmen can step up as well.

Closer
Clearly Buckey is our closer and he has done pretty well there.

This is just my opinion.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 03, 2013, 02:02:10 PM
OWU plays Otterbein today at Littick field in Delaware. First pitch is scheduled for 4:00.
Tomorrow OWU plays ONU at Littick field. First pitch is 4:00.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 03, 2013, 07:41:29 PM
OWU beats Ott 5-3 tonight.
Ott looked good on the mound and hitting. Their SS made several good plays. Owu scored 5 runs in the bottom of the 8th.

Hock and Munger pitched well.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 03, 2013, 08:01:14 PM
Denison crushes John Caroll, 17-4. Scoring 3 in the first 7 in the third, 2 in the fifth and 5 in the sixth. All on 20 hits.

It was relly a pitcher by committe for Denison. I rhink every starter got at least one inning.
Denison
PITCHERS         IP   H   R   ER   BB   SO   HR
Kyle Colgain        1.0   1   1   1   0   0    0
Tim Duxbury        2.0   0   1   0   0   3    0
Ian Barry               2.0   0   0   0   2   3    0
Connor Murphy     2.0   2   1   1   0   2    0
Georgie Montes    1.0   0   0   0   0   1    0
Ryan Loehnert      1.0   2   1   0   0   0    0
Totals               9.0   5   4   2   2   9    0
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 03, 2013, 08:38:21 PM
On April 1 Oberlin beat Blufton 18-8, then lost 2 -3.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 03, 2013, 08:41:03 PM
Wabash beats Rose-Hulman 4-1 today.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on April 04, 2013, 10:11:52 AM
Thanks for all the updates.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 04, 2013, 12:31:53 PM
I will have a few more Tonight or tomorrow.

OWU plays ONU tonight. I want to say OWU should win, but you never know. Depends on our pitching.

Depauw plays Wash U. in a DH. I do not know much about Wash U. They have a good record, but I am not sure how good those teams our. The only common Reference point I have is Case Western, and they lost to them twice.

Muskingum plays Wooster. Wooster should blow them out.

Witt vs. Capital, We still won't know much about Witt after this game. . Capital has a 11-7 record and is 2-2 in the OAC with but they have not beat anyone of consequence.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: jos s on April 04, 2013, 02:13:57 PM
Wash U has a very good team ...came out #28 in the pre-season polls....    Wash U vs Depauw should be a good game, expect Wash U to take both
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 04, 2013, 02:47:26 PM
Thanks Jos,
Hows their pitching, Depauw has been putting up lots of runs.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: jos s on April 04, 2013, 03:19:07 PM
 they have a nice staff...relief is a little thin, but solid starters.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 05, 2013, 09:41:35 AM
West
OWU beats ONU 14-5. OWU used pitchers who had pitched mostly in relief all year. Priddy and Adkins I think both had one other start this year. Just my observation and talking to some Dad's of ONU players. They start a lot of Freshmen, and they have the potential to hit very well, But currently they either are not using their pitching or they just do not have any. One dad told me they have one guy that is really pretty good. Austin Price. He has 25.1 inning in 20 some games and pitches as often as he is ready. The rest of the time they seem to cobble it together, with no other guy getting more than 16.2.

Depauw splits with Washington U., 7-9, and 2-1. Depauw used 4 pitchers in the first game and five in the second. That is pretty common in the NCAC. With Conference play on the weekends you do not want to burn a starter, so you give a lot of pitchers a few innings so they are ready for relief or their regular start on Sunday.

Witt lost to Capital in Lancaster yesterday 5-4.

Wabash was idle, after beating Rose Hulman on Weds. 4-1 Weds.

Denison was Idle.

East
Wooster beat up on Muskingum 14-1 no surprise there. Wooster used 9 pitchers giving no one pitcher more than an inning a piece.

Kenyon was idle, They are in the part of their schedule where they only play on the weekends. They spend 2 weeks in Florida and get most of their non conference games in then.

Oberlin was Idle after splitting with Bluffton on the first, 18-1, and 2-3.

Hiram Has been Idle since March 30th and does not play till the sixth. There only game during that stretch was against Mount Union, Which was postponed.

Allegheny has been Idle since the 30th as well, when they beat up on poor Keuka. They do not play till the 6th when they start conference play against Hiram.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 05, 2013, 09:55:13 AM
In the Top 25 Wittenberg is on the board in the ORV with 33.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 05, 2013, 11:10:29 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 05, 2013, 09:41:35 AM
West
OWU beats ONU 14-5. OWU used pitchers who had pitched mostly in relief all year. Priddy and Adkins I think both had one other start this year. Just my observation and talking to some Dad's of ONU players. They start a lot of Freshmen, and they have the potential to hit very well, But currently they either are not using their pitching or they just do not have any. One dad told me they have one guy that is really pretty good. Austin Price. He has 25.1 inning in 20 some games and pitches as often as he is ready. The rest of the time they seem to cobble it together, with no other guy getting more than 16.2.

Price is basically their entire staff.  He's pretty good.  He will start every OAC game possible.  Case in point, he started against Etta, got hit around and exited in the 1st and came back and started the next OAC DH a couple days later.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 05, 2013, 12:38:43 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on April 05, 2013, 11:10:29 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 05, 2013, 09:41:35 AM
West
OWU beats ONU 14-5. OWU used pitchers who had pitched mostly in relief all year. Priddy and Adkins I think both had one other start this year. Just my observation and talking to some Dad's of ONU players. They start a lot of Freshmen, and they have the potential to hit very well, But currently they either are not using their pitching or they just do not have any. One dad told me they have one guy that is really pretty good. Austin Price. He has 25.1 inning in 20 some games and pitches as often as he is ready. The rest of the time they seem to cobble it together, with no other guy getting more than 16.2.

Price is basically their entire staff.  He's pretty good.  He will start every OAC game possible.  Case in point, he started against Etta, got hit around and exited in the 1st and came back and started the next OAC DH a couple days later.   
Probably the new coach and the tougher schedule but what happened with Magni, Last year he pitched 31 innings and had a decent Era. This year he is not getting much time on the mound. This year he has all of 10.1 innings.

Note: I am aquainted with Matt, Son has played with him once in the Fall and they have been in the same travel ball club, although on different teams.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 06, 2013, 07:55:15 PM
West
OWU and Depauw split.
8-3 Cooper gets the win. Cooper did well most of the game. One time striking out the side. I do not believe he walked anyone. I will have to view the stats. Depauw was sitting on the fastball. Very few batters swung at the curve.
3-9 Sega gets the loss.

Looks like Witt may be coming back to earth. They lost two to a resurgent Denison team, 3-2, and a crushing 14-2.

Wabash loses two to NCAC east member Wooster in a non-conference game. 0-4, 2-5

East
Wooster see Wabash above.

Kenyon Crushes Oberlin in DH today, 17-3, 12-7.

Allegheny sweeps double header with Hiram, 4-0, 10-0.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 07, 2013, 07:12:53 AM
Gang,

I'm really looking forward to CWRU's upcoming DH with Wooster.

Should be a GREAT matchup!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 07, 2013, 07:07:52 PM
Very good weekends for Denison and DePauw. Wooster should cruise through their next 8 league games, but I think D and D might be the top two teams in the conference.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 07, 2013, 10:14:07 PM
As much as I would like to disagree with you Spence, I cannot.

If OWU would have pulled a split with Depauw this weekend, then there could be some argument. Alas we they did not. Last year's strength, Pitching, best ERA in the conference, has become this years weakness.

One, two and three starters were very good last year. and while they did not always in they helped us keep it close and allowed us to get some good wins. This year Cooper is still in form. Hock looks like he will be good, but after that starters are a question mark.

We lost one to graduation, another who is a senior and is not playing. Our other senior starter is still trying to get back to form.

Pitching cannot give up 9 runs in one inning and expect to win.

We are not going to win a lot of one one run games until we stop our opponents from scratching out a run, and cut down the errors at critical points.

It doesn't look like we are ever out of a game (unless it is marietta ;) , Spence). Even after giving up 5 runs we were able to scratch our way back and get back in the game. We still lost.

Fortunately we are just 25% through our conference schedule. next weeks games against Denison are now very important. I do not think any other NCAC teams have a chance to take more than two from them, most probably will only get one.

Wabash has only played 25 % of there league games as well, but they have the meat of there conference games coming up. Denison, Depauw, and Us. They had their Bye week this week so they will not get much of a chance to recover. I believe they have to travel to both Denison and Delaware as well. Those are long trips.

Depauw played there last hope conference games today. They travel to Witt and Wabash.

OWU started 1-3 last year i conference play and still made the NCAC tourney. Lets hope they can do it again.

With the crossover games, there could be three west teams. I just do not want to be in the 4 spot and have to play Wooster in the cross over. The path is clear now for them to get to first place in the east.  I would rather be in 2 or three and facing 3 or 2 from the east.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 09, 2013, 07:24:42 PM
Woo downs BW 9-3. I don't know what to make of the Scots this year. Time will tell.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 09, 2013, 09:34:16 PM
Quote from: old scot on April 09, 2013, 07:24:42 PM
Woo downs BW 9-3. I don't know what to make of the Scots this year. Time will tell.

OWU beat BW in Florida. I feel the same way about OWU. We also beat Case Thomas More and OTT.

No one from the NCAC is going to get a pool c. Wooster always plays well in the NCAC tourney. I cannot imagine that they will do poorly in the crossover, so clearly they will get to the tourney.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 11, 2013, 01:35:40 PM
This weekend

East
Wooster vs. Hiram. This should be a Scots sweep. No more to be said.

Kenyon and Witt play in a NCAC non-conference DH on Friday and Saturday. This will be interesting, both teams are 3-5 in the NCAC. Kenyon lost 3 of those 5 to wooster, While Will list 4 of their 5 to Denison. This will be an interesting match up to to apparent Middle of the road teams.

Oberlin vs. Allegheny, The gators are 4-0 in the conference, but all those wins came against Hiram. Oberlin is 4-2. I say the Gators get at least a split and move to two in the standings.

West
OWU vs Denison. OWU needs at least a spit. They cannot afford to lose 3, or god forbid 4 of these games. They need to take at least two and hope to do well against Witt and Wabash. This is possible, OWU played better than the scores appeared, against Depauw. It will be interesting to see what Deegan does with his rotation. Innings wise it looks like Colgain may be the number one, but I have not seen him pitch in that position so far in Conf. play. Could be Duxbury or Murphy as well. OWU's number 1 is probably already set, but after the Depauw series I would not be surprised to see them shake up the rotation.

Wabash vs. Depauw. I think the best the lil giants can hope for is to take 1 of 3. JT Miller is a stud and I can see him getting the win. I do not think the rest of Wabash's rotation can take on Depauws hitters.

Witt vs Kenyon.

Anybody else have an opinion. Where are the Wabash posters? Some of you had a lot to say in the Fall. I expected to see you here in the spring.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 12, 2013, 10:27:19 PM
Done.
Quote from: Wooster Booster on December 29, 2005, 03:10:56 PM
Here are the baseball web pages for all of the NCAC schools, preceded by the NCAC site itself:

NCAC Baseball: http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/index

Eastern Division

Allegheny: http://alleghenygators.com/index.aspx?path=baseball&tab=0

Hiram: http://www.hiramterriers.com/sports/bsb/index

Kenyon: http://athletics.kenyon.edu/index.aspx?tab=baseball&path=baseball

Oberlin: http://www.goyeo.com/index.aspx?path=baseball&tab=baseball

Wooster: http://athletics.wooster.edu/base/default.php

Western Division

Denison: http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/index

DePauw: http://www.depauw.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/

OWU: http://bishops.owu.edu/baseball.html

Wabash: http://www.wabash.edu/sports/baseball

Wittenberg: http://www4.wittenberg.edu/news/athletics/baseball/index.html

Or here:   http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/NCAC/2013/schedule
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 13, 2013, 06:09:02 PM
Yup Ralph, except for the OWU games that's were I get my info.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 13, 2013, 06:29:26 PM
Really good sweep for OWU today. Really kept Denison quiet at the plate and did some hitting of their own.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 13, 2013, 06:42:11 PM
Thanks Spence.
I did not expect OWU to pitch the Rotation in this order, but I am glad they did. Sega (SEEGUH) pitched very well. Cooper did not have his best stuff, but battled through 7 innings.

The offense came through, They got to Duxbury early. Poor Ben Steele must have a ball magnet on him they could not seem to keep from hitting him.

Colgain pitched very well but the bats did not help him. Denison never hung there heads and fought till the end in both games.

OWU moves into third place. in the west.

The surprise for me in the east today has to be Oberlin. They won the first 4-5 and are winning 10-5 in the 7th. Going to be an interesting couple of weeks.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 13, 2013, 07:10:42 PM
How fast things can change in the NCAC.

OWU could lead the West with a sweep tomorrow. If they get swept, they could be last.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 13, 2013, 11:57:52 PM
I wish, even if Owu sweeps tomorrow they are only 5-3. That at best puts them in 3rd. Depauw and Denison are 6-4. OWU is going to need some help.
The challenge for all the west teams is to finish in the top three to put them in the best position to get into the tourney.
Every team in both divisions has a chance to play for a spot, except possibly Hiram.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 14, 2013, 01:43:16 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 13, 2013, 11:57:52 PM
I wish, even if Owu sweeps tomorrow they are only 5-3. That at best puts them in 3rd. Depauw and Denison are 6-4. OWU is going to need some help.
The challenge for all the west teams is to finish in the top three to put them in the best position to get into the tourney.
Every team in both divisions has a chance to play for a spot, except possibly Hiram.

5-3 is percentage points better than 6-4, or 7-5. If DePauw splits and OWU sweeps, Bishops are in first and Denison would be 6-6.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 14, 2013, 09:30:01 AM
I realized late last night that I was incorrect.  :( Thanks Spence. Some big games today.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 14, 2013, 12:08:14 PM
Wooster remains in first in the East with a not so surprising sweep of Hiram. 

The surprise of the day in the East comes from Oberlin where the Yeomen swept the first two from Allegheny to take over 2nd place just a game back of the Scots and a game ahead of the Gators!  :o  Oberlin also split with Kenyon last weekend and Kenyon swept the first two from Witt in non-conference action yesterday.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 16, 2013, 10:49:29 AM
Wooster and Denison getting some love in the D3baseball Top 25 this week checking in with one vote each...  8-)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 16, 2013, 01:32:19 PM
Wednesday's DH with Oberlin should be a good one.  Who are Oberlin's best players?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: jos s on April 16, 2013, 02:07:20 PM
Case has a great lineup of games coming up.   8 wins in the last 10 games , facing teams with a .676 win %  hopefully will help them continue to gain respect in the region.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 20, 2013, 11:36:00 PM
Well, we only managed a split with Oberlin, BUT, we swept Depauw today.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 21, 2013, 03:55:27 PM
Woo sweeps 2 from the Obies Sat. 7-0 and 15-5. Lose the first game Sun. 3-1 in 14 innings. Scots get 15 hits for 1 run, while the Obies get 5 hits for 3 runs. How does that happen? I guess the answer is thats baseball. Hagen throws all 14 for the Scots. Pettorini gets tossed in the 10th.
Don't know any other details but I'm sure there should be some reason why the Scots didn't manage a win.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 21, 2013, 04:46:54 PM
Hagen threw 14 innings? In a regular season game? Why?

That is the longest outing in D-III since 1997.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on April 21, 2013, 11:48:38 PM
The box score shows that Hagen faced 47 batters yet threw only 132 pitches.  That's an amazingly low 2.8 pitches per batter and under 10 pitches per inning.  Hard to believe, considering he struck out nine.  I wasn't there, but did Oberlin swing at and put the ball in play on the first or second pitch whenever they didn't strike out?  Yeah, Oberlin's pitcher gave up more hits, but they combined to throw 199 pitches, 67 more than Hagen.  I'm not sure I can buy these numbers. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 22, 2013, 02:21:02 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on April 21, 2013, 11:48:38 PM
The box score shows that Hagen faced 47 batters yet threw only 132 pitches.  That's an amazingly low 2.8 pitches per batter and under 10 pitches per inning.  Hard to believe, considering he struck out nine.  I wasn't there, but did Oberlin swing at and put the ball in play on the first or second pitch whenever they didn't strike out?  Yeah, Oberlin's pitcher gave up more hits, but they combined to throw 199 pitches, 67 more than Hagen.  I'm not sure I can buy these numbers.

If that's accurate, it is really efficient. That answers the question, amazingly. Hard luck...that's baseball.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 22, 2013, 11:55:42 AM
OWU and Witt split for the weekend
Wabash and Denison split for the weekend.
3 teams tied for third.
Next weekend decides it. Wabash at OWU and Depauw at Witt.

Should be a big battle for third. No one wants to face Wooster in the cross over.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 25, 2013, 11:41:16 AM
Did you all know that Denison is now in the East and Wooster has moved to the west?  :o ::) ;D

http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/weeklyrelease/4-22-13
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on April 26, 2013, 12:03:43 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 25, 2013, 11:41:16 AM
Did you all know that Denison is now in the East and Wooster has moved to the west?  :o ::) ;D

http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/weeklyrelease/4-22-13

It's corrected in the full text.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 26, 2013, 10:49:01 AM
Yup looks like they corrected it. Sometimes I wonder who proof reads these things.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 28, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
Cross overs should be set. If I understand the Tie breakers correctly it should be as follows. (NCAC site does not have standings correct )

Denison (1 in west) vs Kenyon (4 in east)
Depauw ( believe they will be 2 since they split with Den and took 3 from OWU) vs Oberlin (3 in East)
OWU (number 3, Split with Denison, but lost 3 to Depauw) vs Allegheny (2 in east)
Witt (number 4, took 3 from Depauw and split with OWU, But lost 3 to Denison) Vs. Wooster (1 in east)

Wabash (5 in west) vs Hiram (5 in east)

We will know for sure when they update the schedule on the NCAC site.


these series will be considered regular season games, but it will be best of 3 games series with the winners advancing to the tourney.
My thoughts are with Wabash's Andrew Rodgers, who's elbow was dislocated on a play at first. I hope for a speedy recovery.




Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on April 29, 2013, 09:50:21 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 28, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
Cross overs should be set. If I understand the Tie breakers correctly it should be as follows. (NCAC site does not have standings correct )

Denison (1 in west) vs Kenyon (4 in east)
Depauw ( believe they will be 2 since they split with Den and took 3 from OWU) vs Oberlin (3 in East)
OWU (number 3, Split with Denison, but lost 3 to Depauw) vs Allegheny (2 in east)
Witt (number 4, took 3 from Depauw and split with OWU, But lost 3 to Denison) Vs. Wooster (1 in east)


these series will be considered regular season games, but it will be best of 3 games series with the winners advancing to the tourney.

Please help me understand....

If Wooster drops two of three to Wittenberg, they are out of the tournament? (same for the other series...)  Seems odd that a team who earned their stripes through the regular season could be eliminated by playing three games against someone from the other division, or is this considered part of the tournament?
Are they three nine inning games, or are there some 7 inning games in the mix as well?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on April 29, 2013, 10:28:09 AM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on April 29, 2013, 09:50:21 AM
Please help me understand....

If Wooster drops two of three to Wittenberg, they are out of the tournament? (same for the other series...)  Seems odd that a team who earned their stripes through the regular season could be eliminated by playing three games against someone from the other division, or is this considered part of the tournament?
Are they three nine inning games, or are there some 7 inning games in the mix as well?

I'm not sure I understand either.  Seems to me the NCAC is changing up their conference tournament format on an annual basis of which I can't keep track of or keep straight...  ???   ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 29, 2013, 11:12:32 AM
Really don't know how this cross over play impacts the tourney. My best guess is for seeding purposes?

NCAC web site has Woo, Witt, and Denison scheduled, with the last team TBA but, they already have Woo as the only team scheduled for the conference tourney. Real head scratcher ???
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 29, 2013, 12:00:27 PM
As I understand it here is how the cross over games work. The regular season determines the seeding.

http://www2.northcoast.org/sites/default/files/baseball/4-22-2013%20Baseball_0.pdf

QuoteNorth Coast divisional play in baseball will conclude this weekend with Wooster (10-2, 22-8) currently sitting atop
the East Division standings and Denison (10-6, 19-12) owning the top spot in the West standings. Following this
weekend's divsional series, matchups will be released next Monday for the following weekend's cross-divisional
series, which will determine the four teams that will compete in the 2013 NCAC Baseball Tournament.


Each series will be 3, 9 inning games played on Saturday and Sunday. To get into the tournament you have to win two of those three, so if Witt is playing Wooster and takes two of those three they get into the tourney. If rain becomes a factor and they cannot play all three then it defaults to the old top two from the west and top two from the east.

From what I understand the standings are wron on the west and the crossover schedule on the NCAC website are incorrect.

In the west the seedings are
1 Denison - Best winning percentage 10-6

Then three tied for second OWU, Depauw, and Witt. So here are the tiebreakers. This could change or I could be wrong.
First Record against team above you. This would be Deinson.
Owu and Depauw split with Denison so they still have a chance at the second spot. Witt lost three to Denison so they drop to 4.
SecondHead to head. Depauw took 3 of 4 from OWU. OWU drops to third and Depauw takes second.

2. Depauw 8-8
3. OWU 8-8
4. Witt 8-8
5. Wabash 6-10

In the east the standings are corect because there are no ties.
1. Wooster 12-3 Gheny can't catch them
2. Allegheny 9-6 Oberlin cannot catch them.
3. Oberlin 9-7 Lower win percentage.
4. Kenyon 7-7
5. Poor hiram 0-14

And that lines up the crossover games, 1vs 4 etc. In the strictest sense this is not a two part double elimination tourney. These are considered regular season games and all three will be played no matter the outcome in the first two, weather permitting.

This is by far not the best solution. The best solution would be round robin, but the distance between Green Castle and Meadville make it problematic because of the wonderful weather we have in these parts.

The West still would rather have a round robin, from what I understand, but enough schools in the East no longer support it after the 1 year experiment that this solution has been put in place. Right or Wrong, the west has always believed that in many years the NCAC was not sending the 4 best teams to the NCAC tourney. So this is the solution we have. Get the East schools to agree to round robin again and this goes out the window.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on April 29, 2013, 12:07:52 PM
Thanks for the more in depth explanation!  The good part of this, is that it adds excitement, for 8 of the teams.  Teams like Oberlin and Wittenberg would be done after this next weekend, now they have something to motivate them in practice and on the field this weekend.  The bad thing is that it somewhat devalues the previous 15-16 league games on the books. 

If you are Wooster at 12-3, and have a rough weekend, then you're now waiting on the baseball gods to hand down a pool C bid (which may be even more difficult to obtain if you don't play in your conference tournament.  I'm not sure how the selection committee would look at something like that.)

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 29, 2013, 12:16:01 PM
OWU and Kenyon would also have been done.
Yeah I agree. I would like to see round robin again. Maybe this can make it happen. This is how it was explained to me but everyone knows how closed the NCAC is with tiebreakers etc.... So I only have so much faith in this till I see it posted by the NCAC.

I remember in Football last year no one could get an answer on the tie breakers form the NCAC, but it all worked it self out.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 29, 2013, 02:30:49 PM
The NCAC must be having trouble figuring it out. I expected it to be released as part of all the weekly releases. Looks like all the sports except baseball have have posted their weekly release. ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 29, 2013, 02:44:52 PM
All my posts may be for naught. Currently Woosters and OWU's schedule has Wooster vs OWU in the cross over. That would mean OWU finished fourth. Not all the schedules are updated so who knows. My guess is they are still arguing over the results. Nothing is final till the weekly release and the schedule is updated on NCAC's sight.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on April 29, 2013, 07:30:50 PM
Most likely, each tie is broken separately. You figure out who is second, then you reaccomplish the criteria to break the second tie, rather than establishing ordinals based on the original tie.

I have no idea if that makes a difference or not. Haven't looked at it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 29, 2013, 09:31:57 PM
looks like the tie breakers were reversed.
First is head to head.
Records of the three tied.
Depauw and Witt are 5-3
Owu is 3-5.

OWU is fourth.
Witt beat Depauw 3 out of 4 so Witt gets second Depauw third.

Looks like thet are going to play the rain delayed games in the east after all. Third and fourth are up in the air in the east.

Current standings
West
1. Denison
2. Witt
3. Depauw
4. OWU
5. Wabash

East
1. Wooster
2. Allegeny
3. Oberlin
4. Kenyon
5. hiram

Kenyon has two makeups against Hiram. If they win both of those they tie with Oberlin. Allegheny has one to make up with Wooster. That would make for a three way tie for second at 9-7.
We will have to wait for those games to finish to to figure the tie breaker.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Rolliedogg on April 29, 2013, 09:49:33 PM
Allegheny has DePauw on their schedule for 3 game series this weekend.  Likewise DePauw has Games at Allegheny on their schedule for this weekend.  Similar situation with Wooster - their schedule is showing OWU.   I'm guessing Kenyon is playing for 2 wins at Hiram which will result in a tie with Oberlin.  Which would then result in a coin toss to determine 3rd and 4th.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 30, 2013, 09:21:23 AM
Rollie,
Looks like Allegheny and Wooster wont make up their final game. That gives Allegheny a better winning percentage and 2nd place, 9-6 is better than 9-7. Sneaky, I wonder how Kenyon and Oberlin feel about that.

If Allegheny played Wooster and lost and Kenyon picks up 2 against Hiram, that would put Allegheny, Kenyon and Oberlin all at 9-7. This would have resulted in a 3 way tie for Second.

The tie breaker would have indeed become a coin flip. Although I am not sure how they would have handled that with three teams. Because all three teams would have split their series and all would have been 1-3 against Wooster.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 01, 2013, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on April 29, 2013, 12:07:52 PM
Thanks for the more in depth explanation!  The good part of this, is that it adds excitement, for 8 of the teams.  Teams like Oberlin and Wittenberg would be done after this next weekend, now they have something to motivate them in practice and on the field this weekend.  The bad thing is that it somewhat devalues the previous 15-16 league games on the books. 

If you are Wooster at 12-3, and have a rough weekend, then you're now waiting on the baseball gods to hand down a pool C bid (which may be even more difficult to obtain if you don't play in your conference tournament.  I'm not sure how the selection committee would look at something like that.)

I'm not a fan of this format at all for the very reason highlighted in Etta's post above.  Why play a full slate of conference games if they are basically rendered meaningless at the end of the season and it comes down to a best of 3 series to get into the tournament?  Wooster took care of business in the regular season by winning the East and their reward is now playing OWU and if they don't take 2 of 3 they're done?  And I don't care if it gives teams that finished outside of the top 4 new life.  Had they won more games in the regular season, they wouldn't need the chance for new life.   ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 01, 2013, 11:19:13 AM
I concur.

If they want more teams to have exposure to the field, then open the tournament to six teams (double elimination).  Give the top two teams a first round bye, and go on. 


2E
________       
3W         |________
________|             |
                             |______________
1W                        |
________________|

2W
________       
3E          |________
________|             |
                             |_______________
1E                         |
________________|
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 01, 2013, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 01, 2013, 11:19:13 AM
I concur.

If they want more teams to have exposure to the field, then open the tournament to six teams (double elimination).  Give the top two teams a first round bye, and go on. 


2E
________       
3W         |________
________|             |
                             |______________
1W                        |
________________|

2W
________       
3E          |________
________|             |
                             |_______________
1E                         |
________________|


Etta, I completely agree! 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 02, 2013, 12:13:01 AM
I do not believe this is about giving more teams exposure to the tournament. I don't like this much either. That's why I prefer a round robin instead of two divisions. There is a perceived imbalance between east and west divisions. For a long time their has been a belief in the west that the best four teams have not been in the tournament. I am not saying that Wooster did not belong, but that the second seed in the east may not have been as good as the third in the west. Many in the west consider it a tougher road. We do not have the likes of Hiram. And Oberlin is having their best year with 18 wins. And then replacing Earlham with Depauw, really tipped the scales. Can any body argue that the two divisions are balanced?
Round robin was only tried one year. I think this was put in place to try and even that balance.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 02, 2013, 08:06:35 AM
I can remember a time when in baseball it was Wooster, Allegheny, and OWU, then a bunch of garbage.  Wittenberg occaisionally put together a competitive team, but not very often.  Those three dominated the NCAC and regularly sent two teams to the regionals.  While I admit I don't follow the conference very closely, I have noticed that Allegheny, until this year, had fallen on hard times.  That alone upset the competitive balance for baseball.  Then when you add in quality teams like DePauw and Wabash, it makes it even more unbalanced. 

Blame Allegheny.  It's all their fault. ;)

Round robin would be a better way to go.  It's a 10 team conference, why have divisions in the first place?  Sure the trip from Meadville to Wabash or DePauw is not pleasant, but you don't have to schedule that for Wednesday night.  Play on Saturday.  (They don't usually schedule Marietta to go to Tiffin to play Heidelberg for mid week games either). 

It's still Allegheny's fault. (What was the name of the coach who was there for years?  His son was a thirdbaseman and committed an NCAA record for errors in a regional game against Marietta one year in the reional final). 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 02, 2013, 10:32:05 AM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 02, 2013, 08:06:35 AM

It's still Allegheny's fault. (What was the name of the coach who was there for years?  His son was a thirdbaseman and committed an NCAA record for errors in a regional game against Marietta one year in the reional final).

Kevin Creehan was the coach. The player I don't think was related. If you really want to know who the player was, you can look it up, but I'm not going to name him here. That was just an awful thing to watch.

Allegheny is on the fringes of Pool C contention right now...it's still unlikely, though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 02, 2013, 10:44:42 AM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 02, 2013, 08:06:35 AM
I can remember a time when in baseball it was Wooster, Allegheny, and OWU, then a bunch of garbage.  Wittenberg occaisionally put together a competitive team, but not very often.  Those three dominated the NCAC and regularly sent two teams to the regionals.  While I admit I don't follow the conference very closely, I have noticed that Allegheny, until this year, had fallen on hard times.  That alone upset the competitive balance for baseball.  Then when you add in quality teams like DePauw and Wabash, it makes it even more unbalanced. 

Blame Allegheny.  It's all their fault. ;)

Round robin would be a better way to go.  It's a 10 team conference, why have divisions in the first place?  Sure the trip from Meadville to Wabash or DePauw is not pleasant, but you don't have to schedule that for Wednesday night.  Play on Saturday.  (They don't usually schedule Marietta to go to Tiffin to play Heidelberg for mid week games either). 

It's still Allegheny's fault. (What was the name of the coach who was there for years?  His son was a thirdbaseman and committed an NCAA record for errors in a regional game against Marietta one year in the reional final).
The thing is all the conference games are played as double headers on the weekends. All week day games are non-conference. So I really do not see a reason not to play. They were able to get round robin for one season. After that season they lost the votes of several teams in the east. If there are any upsets this weekend I think there will be a push to drop the cross over games. I really do not think that the west will vote to go back to the top two seeds from the two divisions.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 03, 2013, 01:34:52 PM
OWU beats Capital last night. 5-4. OWU used a bunch of Bench guys who had not seen much playing time during the year. They did well. Nice to see Seffermick (Fr) go 5 innings with 3 earned runs on 7 hits. He hadn't seen a start or innings since Florida.

I think Capital has an outside chance of getting into THe OAC tourney. They play 2 Against Heidi on Saturday, so I cannot be sure if we saw there best pitching. I have to imagine that we were seeing their regular lineup though.

A lot of good performances from some young bishops.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 03, 2013, 02:25:12 PM
outside chance is right.  Here is what has to happen just to force the tie breaker scenarios.

1. Cap must sweep heidelberg. Not impossible, but not easy a split eliminates both.
2. Either Otterbein or Mount Union must lose twice on Saturday.  (Ott plays BW, Mount plays Muskingum. ) Worst record for either is 9-9. Mount union being swept by a bad Musky team is not likely.  Otterbein being swept by an OK B-W team is certainly possible (in fact that is the outcome I expect).
3. Depending on #2, Ohio Northern could be a factor as well, as they can finish 10-8, 9-9 or 8-10.  So Capital needs Northern to be 9-9 or worse to be in the mix. ONU plays John Carroll, and JCU is playing very well when their top two pitchers play.  Northern will be very fortunate to score against the streaks, let alone win.   

Then if everything goes cap's way, there are numerous tie break scenarios which I have not explored because I think it is a LONG shot and not worth the time right now.
 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 03, 2013, 02:30:16 PM
Don't blame for not looking up all the scenarios. I was just trying to Justify OWU's win with the caveat that we did not see their best pitchers, they are saving them for Hiedi, but we should have seen their regular position players because they need to be ready for Heidi.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 03, 2013, 02:33:33 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 03, 2013, 01:34:52 PM
OWU beats Capital last night. 5-4. OWU used a bunch of Bench guys who had not seen much playing time during the year. They did well. Nice to see Seffermick (Fr) go 5 innings with 3 earned runs on 7 hits. He hadn't seen a start or innings since Florida.

I think Capital has an outside chance of getting into THe OAC tourney. They play 2 Against Heidi on Saturday, so I cannot be sure if we saw there best pitching. I have to imagine that we were seeing their regular lineup though.

A lot of good performances from some young bishops.

Yeah, I looked at the box score.  I didn't recognize any of the guys that pitched for either team!  Cap definitely didn't use any of their normal "OAC" arms.  Looked like their normal position players though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 04, 2013, 08:05:41 PM
Wooster took two games today from OWU, 11-3, and 15-5.  Not that you would know that if you were trying to follow by LiveStats, which not only had the score way off but had Wooster starting mostly a JV lineup in game two.  Unbelievable.  If you can't do that right, please don't do it.

Now are you guys telling me that they still play the third, and now meaningless, game on Sunday?  Wow.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 04, 2013, 09:54:00 PM
Congratulations Wooster and Denison on the sweeps. Yes they do play tomorrow. That was an insistence by the presidents. They did not want it to be a two weekend tourney but part of the regular season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 04, 2013, 10:01:23 PM
Maybe a better way to do this would be to play the three games of these crossover series and then just add the wins and losses to each team's league record.  At that point, take those records, and the top two from each division are the teams that go to the tournament.  It's not possible that that's how they're doing it this season, is it?  That would explain why Wooster was already listed, on the NCAC site, as being in the tournament at Chillocothe prior to this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 04, 2013, 10:04:05 PM
No that is not what they were doing. There would be no point. Wooster has been int the torney on the schedule since the beginning of the year. I have had confirmation from several sources.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 05, 2013, 11:27:53 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 04, 2013, 09:54:00 PM
Congratulations Wooster and Denison on the sweeps. Yes they do play tomorrow. That was an insistence by the presidents. They did not want it to be a two weekend tourney but part of the regular season.

This makes no sense to me whatsoever as if it has at all prior to reading this.  By making these 3 game cross-over series a winner takes all, i.e. winner advances to the NCAC Tournament, they are TOTALLY making this into a two weekend tournament?!  If their intent was to NOT make it into a two weekend tournament they should have just made these games count towards the regular season as opposed to making you have to win the series to advance to Chillicothe...  ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 05, 2013, 11:40:29 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 05, 2013, 11:27:53 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 04, 2013, 09:54:00 PM
Congratulations Wooster and Denison on the sweeps. Yes they do play tomorrow. That was an insistence by the presidents. They did not want it to be a two weekend tourney but part of the regular season.

This makes no sense to me whatsoever as if it has at all prior to reading this.  By making these 3 game cross-over series a winner takes all, i.e. winner advances to the NCAC Tournament, they are TOTALLY making this into a two weekend tournament?!  If their intent was to NOT make it into a two weekend tournament they should have just made these games count towards the regular season as opposed to making you have to win the series to advance to Chillicothe...  ::)

I completely agree.  Whatever the league says, these games are part of the tournament, and it's an eight-team tournament.  Which is ridiculously unfair to the division winners because in a short series anything can happen.

I do think that a non-divisional, round-robin regular-season schedule would be very difficult because of the distances involved and the real possibility of poor weather.  Why not, in the future, do this in the manner that I mentioned?  Keep the divisions, keep the cross-over series as is, except really do have them consist of three regular-season games.  Then, after they're played, the teams with the top two records from each division get into the tournament?  Not a perfect set-up, but better, I think, than what they've done this season, or in the past.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 05, 2013, 02:36:17 PM
Sunday, May 5th Final Scores:

Oberlin 9  Wittenberg 6
Allegheny 5  DePauw 3
Denison 7  Kenyon 1
Wooster 12  OWU 6

So, NCAC East gets 3 teams into the final 4 of the NCAC tournament next weekend (Wooster, Allegheny, Oberlin along with Denison from the West)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2013, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 05, 2013, 11:40:29 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 05, 2013, 11:27:53 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 04, 2013, 09:54:00 PM
Congratulations Wooster and Denison on the sweeps. Yes they do play tomorrow. That was an insistence by the presidents. They did not want it to be a two weekend tourney but part of the regular season.

This makes no sense to me whatsoever as if it has at all prior to reading this.  By making these 3 game cross-over series a winner takes all, i.e. winner advances to the NCAC Tournament, they are TOTALLY making this into a two weekend tournament?!  If their intent was to NOT make it into a two weekend tournament they should have just made these games count towards the regular season as opposed to making you have to win the series to advance to Chillicothe...  ::)

I completely agree.  Whatever the league says, these games are part of the tournament, and it's an eight-team tournament.  Which is ridiculously unfair to the division winners because in a short series anything can happen.

I do think that a non-divisional, round-robin regular-season schedule would be very difficult because of the distances involved and the real possibility of poor weather.  Why not, in the future, do this in the manner that I mentioned?  Keep the divisions, keep the cross-over series as is, except really do have them consist of three regular-season games.  Then, after they're played, the teams with the top two records from each division get into the tournament?  Not a perfect set-up, but better, I think, than what they've done this season, or in the past.
Congratulations to all the teams that made the tournament.
I do not think the west would agree to that. The point is you cannot compare the records from the east and west from year to year. How long has it been since Hiram has won a series. How long has it been since they have one a game in the NCAC. That's two or three built in wins for the east every year. This is the first year in a long time that Oberlin has been over .500.  Again historically there has been an in-balance in the league.

So for now it is round robin or this.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCACfan22 on May 06, 2013, 12:28:10 AM
@Bishopleftiesdad I am a long time reader of this board, and your bias towards the NCAC West is getting to become absolutely ridiculous. The NCAC West was plain and simple, a much weaker division than the East this year. Your school, OWU, went into Wooster this past weekend, and got smashed all three games. Allegheny, Oberlin, and Kenyon, all at least won one game of the first three against Wooster when they played them, not to mention three of the four teams in the NCAC tournament are now are from the East(Oberlin, Allegheny, Wooster).
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 06, 2013, 09:23:22 AM
I do not deny that the East is a much better division this year. The only team that can compete with them is clearly Denison. OWU was terrible this year, no doubt about it. I am not arguing anything about the West being better this year. I am saying that the perception in the past has been that the West was stronger, not my perception. This is what I heard from people associated with the NCAC and even some OAC people.

I am sorry if I did not explain my self clearly. Again the east was clearly better this year. Even though the west only got one team to the tourney, I do not see them suddenly voting to change this. That is my opinion.
NCACFan22, happy to see you posting.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 06, 2013, 10:03:36 AM
It wasn't perception.  The West WAS stronger.  For years.  Clearly that's not the case this year, but I'd have to think that anyone who has watched NCAC baseball the last decade would agree that the West was stronger the vast majority of the time.  Now obviously Wooster has been the class of the conference, but the rest of the East has not been very good.  Allegheny used to be outstanding, but they fell on some tough times.  I'm happy to see them playing better again.

If I was an NCAC West guy (I'm an OAC guy, NCACfan22) my issue with the normal year (i.e. not 2013) would be that under the format of the top 2 teams from each division making the NCAC tourney I'd be upset that the 2nd place team in the East makes it based largely on geography alone because if there were no divisions and a full round-robin schedule that team probably isn't sniffing the conference tourney.  If I finish 3rd in the West that doesn't sit well with me.

The bottom line continues to be that the NCAC is having a hard time balancing the travel concerns of scrapping the divisions versus the competitive balance concerns of the old divison system.  The constant tweaking makes it hard to follow from year-to-year, but I have to give them credit for at least trying to improve their system as best they can.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on May 06, 2013, 11:20:38 AM
I simply appreciate the information and discussion. All points of view welcome and considered.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 06, 2013, 11:27:42 AM
I think eventually they will come up with a working system. I do not believe it will be round robin, because the reasons mentioned earlier with travel and weather. I do Think they will keep this for at least another year or two so see the results.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 06, 2013, 12:06:45 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 06, 2013, 11:27:42 AM
I think eventually they will come up with a working system. I do not believe it will be round robin, because the reasons mentioned earlier with travel and weather. I do Think they will keep this for at least another year or two so see the results.

I'm kind of thinking the NCAC will keep it until one of the division winners is upset in one of these crossover tournament series?  I would imagine there would have been some serious bitching and moaning had Wooster or Denison been upset over the weekend and luckily for the NCAC, that did not happen...

I'm going to assume that this whole crossover tournament was a result of some whining from teams out west who have felt that there was a lack of balance in talent between the two divisions?  So, with that assumption in mind, how ironic is it that once the west got their way, the east goes and takes 3 of the 4 spots for the NCAC Tournament!   ;D


Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 06, 2013, 11:27:42 AM
How long has it been since they have one a game in the NCAC.

The hapless Terriers from the (L)east beat Wabash from the mighty west in one of the three games over the weekend...  :P

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 06, 2013, 12:19:23 PM
Yes they did, and congratulations to Hiram. That is one win in haw many tries. I will not argue that the West is better this year clearly they are not.

But historically what is their record against west teams over the last 10 years? They also managed to split with easts 4th place team Kenyon.

You can call it whining, But it clearly had some support from the east teams.  Because otherwise it would not have received enough votes.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 06, 2013, 12:40:52 PM
How would you feel if the cross over worked like this.

Top seed in each division makes it to the tourney. Games for the cross over weekend would look like this all are 2 out of 3:
1w vs. 5e - regular season games but no effect on tourney.
1e vs. 5w - regular season games but no effect on tourney.
2w vs. 3e - Winner goes to tourney.
3w vs. 2e - Winner goes to tourney.

That would be 4 teams and the last series does not matter.

4w vs. 4e Regular season games but no effect on the tourney.

Only problem I would see if there were an upset in the 1 vs. 5 games.

As far as irony, I do not think it is ironic at all. The 4 best teams are in the tourney. It just so happens that they are from the east this year. That was the point of this change.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 06, 2013, 10:27:42 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 06, 2013, 12:40:52 PM
How would you feel if the cross over worked like this.

Top seed in each division makes it to the tourney. Games for the cross over weekend would look like this all are 2 out of 3:
1w vs. 5e - regular season games but no effect on tourney.
1e vs. 5w - regular season games but no effect on tourney.
2w vs. 3e - Winner goes to tourney.
3w vs. 2e - Winner goes to tourney.

That would be 4 teams and the last series does not matter.

4w vs. 4e Regular season games but no effect on the tourney.

Only problem I would see if there were an upset in the 1 vs. 5 games.

As far as irony, I do not think it is ironic at all. The 4 best teams are in the tourney. It just so happens that they are from the east this year. That was the point of this change.

I think this is an excellent format.  Drop the charade of calling the crossover-series games regular-season games.  It's a six-team tourney.  The winners of each division get an automatic bid into the double-elimination final four.  The two 2-vs-3 two-out-of-three crossover series get the other spots.

Best thing they could do.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 07, 2013, 09:39:25 AM
I think this is a good compromise. I think everyone always felt the top team in the West and the East was always deserving. The question has always been about the second two teams. Many years their could be an argument that the number 3 in the west could have been more deserving than the number two in the east.

This would reward a team for winning their division. It would also even up the balance between the two divisions. We will see.

Things will probably be status quo for a few years until the number one gets upset in the East or the West.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 08, 2013, 09:01:05 PM
It occurs to me again what a stupid idea it is to have this league tournament in Chillicothe.  Every team that's in it has to travel in the SAME DIRECTION, a ton of miles.  Only Denison is reasonably close.  The other three have to go at least two and a half hours.  Totally fan unfriendly, and it totally stinks.  What the hell is going on here?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on May 08, 2013, 10:08:33 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 08, 2013, 09:01:05 PM
It occurs to me again what a stupid idea it is to have this league tournament in Chillicothe.  Every team that's in it has to travel in the SAME DIRECTION, a ton of miles.  Only Denison is reasonably close.  The other three have to go at least two and a half hours.  Totally fan unfriendly, and it totally stinks.  What the hell is going on here?

artificial surface and lights
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: woosterbooster on May 08, 2013, 10:56:03 PM
This is akin to having the basketball final in Atlanta.  Yeah, maybe they had fans, but not the real fans of the teams.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 09, 2013, 07:09:27 PM
The Scots made sure they loaded the bats on the bus when they went to Chilli for the NCAC Tourney. Beat the Obies 11-3 and dusted the Gators 10-2.  It is nice to be in the Kings seat.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 10, 2013, 08:00:29 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 06, 2013, 09:23:22 AM
The only team that can compete with them is clearly Denison.

Apparently not...   :P   ;)

Denison is the first team to go home from Chillicothe as they lose their opener to Allegheny and then lost in the losers bracket to Oberlin.

Wooster blew both Allegheny and Oberlin out yesterday and will face the winner of the Gators and Yeomen today at 2 pm weather permitting...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on May 10, 2013, 03:29:29 PM
Watching from afar, it looks like Denison gave up 2 in top of 9th to lose Game 1. Then followed it up in game 2 with giving up 2 more in bottom of 9th to force extra. Tough way to end the season (here we call that "0-2 and BBQ") but given the turn around from last year it looks like Coach Deegan and company may have to program moving in the right direction?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 10, 2013, 04:21:59 PM
Quote from: TexasDad on May 10, 2013, 03:29:29 PM
Watching from afar, it looks like Denison gave up 2 in top of 9th to lose Game 1. Then followed it up in game 2 with giving up 2 more in bottom of 9th to force extra. Tough way to end the season (here we call that "0-2 and BBQ") but given the turn around from last year it looks like Coach Deegan and company may have to program moving in the right direction?

Without question.  They're going to be good as long as he's there, IMO.  They were already better this year than I expected and they're only going to get better as he continues to recruit "his" guys going forward.  Lots to be excited about if you're a Big Red fan in my mind.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 10, 2013, 05:29:23 PM
Woo is laying the wood to Allegheny 16-3 in the bottom of the 7th. Scots soon to be NCAC champs and win a bid to NCAA playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 10, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 10, 2013, 05:29:23 PM
Woo is laying the wood to Allegheny 16-3 in the bottom of the 7th. Scots soon to be NCAC champs and win a bid to NCAA playoffs.

Wow!  This was a 2-2 game in thru 5 and then Woo put a snowman up in the bottom of the 6th to break this game open.  And then, for insurance, the Scots tacked on 6 more in the bottom of the 7th for good measure.

The final was 18-6.  Congrats to the Scots on their 15th NCAC Championship and good luck going forward in the upcoming Regionals!   8-)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 10, 2013, 09:53:54 PM
Congratulations to the Scots it was well deserved.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCACfan22 on May 12, 2013, 01:25:09 PM
Who do you all think will be favorites for next year? Also, congrats go out to both Wooster for their championship run, and Oberlin Head Coach Adrian Abrahamowicz for winning NCAC Coach of the Year
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 12, 2013, 03:31:37 PM
Gotta think Wooster will be the favorite until someone steps up and can compete against them. In the west, the favorite for me is Denison. I know the this is not a stretch. But I do not know who loses what except for the Bishops, and Denison a little bit.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 14, 2013, 02:39:33 PM
Congratulations to all the players who Made the NCAC team.
Quote
NCAC Baseball Special
For Immediate Release
ALL-NCAC BASEBALL SQUAD ANNOUNCED;
May 14, 2013
WOOSTER'S REESE AND WHITE EARN TOP INDIVIDUAL HONORS
CLEVELAND -- Wooster junior second baseman Eddie Reese (Canfield, OH/Cardinal Mooney) and Wooster senior left-handed pitcher Keenan White (Dublin, OH/Dublin Coffman) have been named the Player and Pitcher of the Year, respectively, to highlight the 2013 All-North Coast Athletic Conference baseball selections. Reese, who makes his second-straight appearance on the All-NCAC First team, currently owns a .365 batting average (58-of-159) and leads the league in slugging percentage (.686), runs batted in (51), doubles (19), home runs (8), total bases (109) and walks (29). Reese helped guide the Fighting Scots to the 2013 NCAC Baseball title with a 3-0 record at the 2013 NCAC Baseball Tournament and will look to keep the momentum going into the 2013 NCAA Terre Haute Regional which will be contested this week, May 15-19. White makes his debut on the All-NCAC squad as a member of the first team in 2013. He has been the ace of the Fighting Scots' pitching staff this spring, posting a perfect 12-0 record on the hill with a 2.38 ERA. In 72.0 total innings of work this season, he has allowed just 19 earned runs on 62 hits to go along with 75 strikeouts. Joining Reese as a repeat selection from the 2012 All-NCAC first-team was Wabash junior J.T. Miller (Wildwood, MO/ Lafayette). Allegheny freshman third baseman
Joe Killian (Springdale, PA/Springdale) was named the Newcomer of the Year by vote of the league coaches. In 41 games played this season, Killian posted a .364 batting average (48-of-132) with two triples, 29 RBI and 30 runs scored. Killian also made his debut appearance on an All-NCAC squad as an honorable-mention selection. Oberlin head coach Adrian Abrahamowicz earned Coach of the Year honors by vote of the league coaches after leading the Yeomen to a school record 22 wins this spring. Abrahamowicz, who earns his first career NCAC Coach of the Year honor, owns a career record of 54-68 in three years at the helm of the Oberlin baseball program.

Looks like the first team pitcher has a bias towards Juniors and Seniors. Colgain was pretty clearly Denison's ace this year. He had a better ERA than Duxbury and started and pitched more innings. He also had more strikeouts. He did give up more walks.

Congratulations to all. Good to see Oberlins coach get the nod for coach of the year, I did not realize he has only been there three years.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 15, 2013, 06:07:10 PM
Scots getting waxed by Thomas More in the top of the 6th 12-3 with TM still batting ugh!!!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 15, 2013, 06:13:31 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 15, 2013, 06:07:10 PM
Scots getting waxed by Thomas More in the top of the 6th 12-3 with TM still batting ugh!!!!!

Yeah and the painful thing is that 7 of TMC's 12 runs are freaking unearned as a result of 3 Wooster errors.   ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 16, 2013, 02:20:43 PM
Good luck Scotts!!!

2-0 scots top of 5.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 16, 2013, 02:21:09 PM
Hiram's President stepping down. Will this lead to a change in their philosophy towards athletics?

http://news.hiram.edu/?p=7313
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 16, 2013, 04:20:36 PM
Wooster wins 3-2. No 2 and q this year. Congratulations Scots.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2013, 04:52:17 PM
After giving up 20 yesterday, the Scots come back today and hold PSU-B scoreless thru 8.  Behrend finally broke thru in the 9th with their first hit with runners in scoring position as they had left 12 stranded prior to their 2 out rbi's in the 9th.

Wooster also finally got an NCAA post season win for the first time in 4 years!

The Scots will now face the loser of the Manchester v. W&J game going on right now tomorrow at 10 am.  W&J is up early in that one 1-0 in the top of the 2nd btw...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 07, 2013, 01:54:22 PM
Well just because the Spring season is over does not mean that Baseball ends for these young men. Most play in Summer collegiate Wood bat leagues. A few I am aware of from the NCAC are:

Kyle Colgain:       P Dension Gaithersburg Giants      Cal Ripkin
Ian Barry:            P Denison Settlers                         Great Lakes
Connor Murphy:  P Denison Settlers                          Great Lakes
Charles Cooper: P OWU      Settlers                          Great Lakes
Blake Adkins:      P OWU      Cobras Collegiate          Ohio Independent
Collin Finn:          C OWU     Cobras Collegiate          Ohio Independent
Jack Miller:           C OWU     Cobras Collegiate          Ohio Independent           
Michael Jeffers:   P Kenyon  Cooperstown Hawkyes  Perfect Game
Nate Lotze:        IF Kenyon Cooperstown Hawkyes  Perfect Game

I am sure there are others, as I find them I will post and give stats etc.

Ian Barry and Connor Murphy both pitched last night for the Settlers:

http://glscl.bbstats.pointstreak.com/team_stats.html?teamid=33355&seasonid=24152&view=pitching


   

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 11, 2013, 11:07:49 AM
NCAC player gets Drafted:

Quote from: Jim Dixon on June 08, 2013, 07:34:42 PM
13 players selected in the 2013 MLB draft

13.  385   Tim Locastro, Ithaca                                SS       Toronto
13.  403   Joseph Odom, Huntingdon                       C         Atlanta
26. 767    William Chrismon, Christopher Newport  RHP      Houston
26. 793    Dakota Dill, Sul Ross State                      RHP      Atlanta
28. 832    Joel Effertz UW-La Crosse                       RHP      Miami
29. 879    Conor Bierfeldt, Western Conn. State     OF        Baltimore
30. 916    Ryan Ullmann, Concordia (TX)                  RHP      Washington
32. 958    Max Beatty, Pac Lutheran                        RHP      San Diego
32. 964    Rob Rogers, Keystone                              RHP      Los Angeles Dodgers
36. 1082  Jesse Weiss,  Kenyon                              1B         Milwaukee 
37. 1101 Garrett Smith, Cal Lutheran                      2B         Chicago Cubs
39. 1175  Kevin Herget, Kean                                  RHP       St. Louis
40. 1187    Tyler Brunnemann, Hardin Simmons         RHP        Houston    

Any one missed?
Congratulations to Jesse Weiss.
Kenyon had another player drafted last year, A catcher Jack Graham:
http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=623285
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 12, 2013, 12:50:18 PM
Kyle Colgain, Denison, had a good night June 9th against the Aces:
http://crcbl.bbstats.pointstreak.com/player.html?playerid=436245

6 ip, 3 r, 1 er, 7 H, 0 BB, 7 SO, 1.50 ERA and a 1.170 WHIP
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 12, 2013, 12:55:42 PM
Conor Murphy, Denison, starts tonight for the Licking County Settlers against the Lima Locos.

Charles Cooper, OWU pitches 5 innings against the Locos last night and gets the win in relief:

http://glscl.bbstats.pointstreak.com/gamerecap.html?gameid=131133
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on June 15, 2013, 10:26:45 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on June 07, 2013, 01:54:22 PM
Well just because the Spring season is over does not mean that Baseball ends for these young men. Most play in Summer collegiate Wood bat leagues. A few I am aware of from the NCAC are:

Kyle Colgain:       P Dension Gaithersburg Giants      Cal Ripkin
Ian Barry:            P Denison Settlers                         Great Lakes
Connor Murphy:  P Denison Settlers                          Great Lakes
Charles Cooper: P OWU      Settlers                          Great Lakes
Blake Adkins:      P OWU      Cobras Collegiate          Ohio Independent
Collin Finn:          C OWU     Cobras Collegiate          Ohio Independent
Jack Miller:           C OWU     Cobras Collegiate          Ohio Independent           
Michael Jeffers:   P Kenyon  Cooperstown Hawkyes  Perfect Game
Nate Lotze:        IF Kenyon Cooperstown Hawkyes  Perfect Game

I am sure there are others, as I find them I will post and give stats etc.

Ian Barry and Connor Murphy both pitched last night for the Settlers:

http://glscl.bbstats.pointstreak.com/team_stats.html?teamid=33355&seasonid=24152&view=pitching


   

BLD,

the NCAC also has Jack Peck of DePauw and Zach Mathie of Wooster playing for the Chillicothe Paints of the Prospect League.

Peck is 1-1 in 3 starts with an ERA of 2.81
Mathie is hitting .333 in 17 games

The Richmond River Rats of the Prospect League have P Michael Chiaro, P Alexander Sroka, and OF Robbie Stein of DePauw

I believe that is all the NCAC players in the Prospect League. The league does have a sprinkling of other D3 players from the OAC, HCAC and one each from CWRU and Alvernia.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 16, 2013, 10:05:58 PM
Thanks Motor man I will add them to my list.

Add another NCAC kid to the Great Lakes Summer Collegiate League.

JJ Bucky of OWU, is with the Grand Lake Mariners. Watched him pitch a inning against the Settlers, three up and three down.

http://glscl.bbstats.pointstreak.com/player.html?playerid=475825
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 07, 2013, 10:58:45 PM
Ryan Mulligan from Denison is named to the Great Lakes Summer Collegiate League All Star Team:

http://www.greatlakesleague.org/extras/allstars.php

Congratulations Ryan.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on July 12, 2013, 10:25:57 PM
Zach Mathie from Wooster was named to the Prospect League All Star team from the Chillicothe Paints.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 23, 2013, 01:41:20 PM
The summer wood bat season is starting to wind down. Here are some stats for our NCAC guys that I can find.

Name               POS   College Team                             League               W  l  S ERA
Kyle Colgain:       P    Dension Gaithersburg Giants      Cal Ripkin            1  3 2  3.99
Ian Barry:            P    Denison Settlers                         Great Lakes        0  1  0 6.11
Connor Murphy:   P    Denison Settlers                         Great Lakes         3  2  0 1.17
Charles Cooper:  P     OWU      Settlers                         Great Lakes         3  0  0 1.64   
Michael Jeffers:    P    Kenyon  Cooperstown Hawkyes  Perfect Game       0  3  0 4.98
Jack Peck:            P     DePauw Chillicothe Paints           Prospect              2  1  0 2.53
Michael Chiaro:    P      Depauw  Richmond River Rats    Prospect              1  6  0 5.28
Alexander Sroka:  P     Depauw  Richmond River Rats     Prospect             0  1  0 148.50 *Alexander only pitched .2 innings so these numbers are skewed.                 
JJ Bucky:              P/OF OWU Grand Lake Mariners        Great Lakes         1  1  1 0.46


Name               POS  College Team                     League                           H  R   BA
Nate Lotze:        IF    Kenyon Cooperstown Hawkyes  Perfect Game          50 21 .382
Zach Mathie:      OF     Wooster Chillicothe Paints   Prospect                        41 17 .293
Robbie Stein:      OF   Depauw  Richmond River Rats Prospect                    59 24 .316
Ryan Mulligan      if     Denision Settlers           Great Lakes                          17 5  .246

I am sure their are more players out their, but these are the ones I know of and can find stats for. Good luck to everyone in the playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 24, 2013, 11:08:29 PM
I found another NCAC pitcher Luke Holm is playing in the New York Collegiate Baseball League.

Luke Holm Wabash 2 W 3 L 0 S 4.89 ERA
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 31, 2013, 12:03:06 PM
JJ Buckey of OWU and Connor Murphy of Denison, both make second team as relief pitchers in the Great Lakes Summer Collegiate League.

http://www.greatlakesleague.org/extras/awards.php
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 31, 2013, 01:21:46 PM
I do not have pictures, But OWU has started tearing down the outfield fence. It will be replaced with a Black chain link with Red slatting and a batters eye. The fencing will be 6 feet high all around. They are also re doing the backstop in block and adding netting instead of the current chain link. The dug outs will be enclosed by a 4 foot high fence in front of the dug outs.

I will get pictures when I have them.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on July 31, 2013, 02:17:39 PM
As a newbie, I've got a question that hopefully those more experienced can answer: What is the typical Fall schedule/program like for a school in the NCAC? Know that it will vary from school to school but just wondering what to expect in general come August.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 06, 2013, 12:02:59 PM
Welcome aboard TexasDad, I look forward to your input from a Denison perspective. My son played with three Denison players this summer in the Great Lakes League, on the Licking County Settlers. The ended up winning the championship for the league.

On to fall baseball. Understand that Deegan may completely change things. Most NCAC schools start fall ball  after kids have been in class for three to four weeks. Most schools have open try outs so any young man on campus can come. The first week is usually the try out process, running, drills, running, and batting. After that during the week it is typical practice activities and getting a look at the Freshmen. On the Weekends most schools have inter squad scrimmages. OWU concludes the fall schedule with a Red and Black tournament. The assistant coaches draft two or three teams and compete for bragging rights. OWU then has a game against alumni.

I believe D3 allows one week end of competition against another school. Most NCAC schools do not do this. But with Deegan being from Marietta which does this regularly, he mat give it a try. Last year Marietta went out to New York and played Cortland. This year I believe Cortland may be returning the favor.

I wish OWU would play a game against another team in the fall, but they choose not to.

Of coarse they should come to campus ready to start lifting, hitting in the cages and long toss. These activities are on their own or run by the captains, if your team has any. The coaches cannot be involved in these activities, but I can guarantee you they know who attends these voluntary activities and who does not.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on August 06, 2013, 05:30:53 PM
Many thanks. He is definitely looking forward to the challenge.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 06, 2013, 07:20:22 PM
I am sure he will be up to it. I am interested to see the size of Deegans first real class.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Wayoutwest on August 07, 2013, 05:25:19 PM
Another new guy here.  My son is an Arizona LHP headed off to Oberlin in a few weeks.  Do you have any idea what their fall schedule is?  Do they play a fall game against another team and if so, would those dates be posted anywhere?  Getting info from an 18 year old is not that easy.  Figured someone here might know.  Thanks. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 07, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Welcome Wayout. It will be good to have a Oberlin poster. I am afraid I do not know what Oberlin does. I am not familiar with what they do in the fall.

Oberlin had a very good season last year. I believe they usually go to Arizona in the spring.

Good to have you posting.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 11, 2013, 02:53:57 PM
Interview with Kenyon Grad/MiLB player Jesse Weiss.

http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=29507709&sid=t433


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on August 12, 2013, 09:43:16 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on August 06, 2013, 12:02:59 PM
Welcome aboard TexasDad, I look forward to your input from a Denison perspective. My son played with three Denison players this summer in the Great Lakes League, on the Licking County Settlers. The ended up winning the championship for the league.

On to fall baseball. Understand that Deegan may completely change things. Most NCAC schools start fall ball  after kids have been in class for three to four weeks. Most schools have open try outs so any young man on campus can come. The first week is usually the try out process, running, drills, running, and batting. After that during the week it is typical practice activities and getting a look at the Freshmen. On the Weekends most schools have inter squad scrimmages. OWU concludes the fall schedule with a Red and Black tournament. The assistant coaches draft two or three teams and compete for bragging rights. OWU then has a game against alumni.

I believe D3 allows one week end of competition against another school. Most NCAC schools do not do this. But with Deegan being from Marietta which does this regularly, he mat give it a try. Last year Marietta went out to New York and played Cortland. This year I believe Cortland may be returning the favor.

I wish OWU would play a game against another team in the fall, but they choose not to.

Of coarse they should come to campus ready to start lifting, hitting in the cages and long toss. These activities are on their own or run by the captains, if your team has any. The coaches cannot be involved in these activities, but I can guarantee you they know who attends these voluntary activities and who does not.

I think it's pretty consistent that most of our "local" programs give the kids at least a couple weeks to get settled into classes before starting anything official.  That seems to be the norm.  I know at Mount we went to classes for a couple weeks and then there was just an open meeting that anyone could attend where the schedule, expectations, etc. were laid out and then practice started a week or so later I believe.  We would run normal practices during the week with intra-squad games on weekends and then cap it off with a World Series at the end like most schools do.  Fall ball really is a lot of fun.  You're excited to be back on campus, you're playing ball and hanging out with your friends.  Then you get sent to the fieldhouse to throw off of plastic mounds and hit in a cage for 3 months.  Welcome to Ohio!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on August 12, 2013, 11:58:35 AM
Thanks for the information. Most helpful. Looks like Denison has a meeting on August 29 (first day of classes) and they start Fall practices on September 10. It also appears the DU has 19 incoming freshman who are either recruited players or walk-ons that the coaching staff knows about to date. Son is looking forward to getting started.  ;D
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 18, 2013, 05:00:58 PM
Dropped Son off today, school doesn't start for another week, he is going to be a an orientation Leader for the Freshmen. Stopped by the field. Out field fence, back stop and fence down both lines are down. The block has been delivered for the new backstop. I did not stop to take any pictures, not much to see.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 18, 2013, 06:22:15 PM
Quote from: TexasDad on August 12, 2013, 11:58:35 AM
Thanks for the information. Most helpful. Looks like Denison has a meeting on August 29 (first day of classes) and they start Fall practices on September 10. It also appears the DU has 19 incoming freshman who are either recruited players or walk-ons that the coaching staff knows about to date. Son is looking forward to getting started.  ;D
There should be plenty of opportunities for freshmen, DU had a small roster last year with, 24. They lose 6 seniors 5 of which played a big rolls for them last year.
Name                 Pos   Class   BA   GP/GS   AB   R    H   ERA   W-L   APP  GS  CG  IP      
Tim Duxbury      RHP/IF   Sr. .298   27-24   84  17  25 3.40   6-3    12     5   2   42.1
Philip Seay         RHP      Sr.                                         5.45   2-3    17    0   0   33.0 
Lowell Hall          C         Sr.  .286  35-27    98  18  28
Kyle Clemmenson SS     Sr. .384   41-41   151 43   58
Danny Kraus        OF/LHP Sr. .324  41-41  170 43  55  3.42   2-0     7   6   0   26.1
Sam Belisle              RHP    Sr.                                       3.38   0-0     7   0   0   10.2

Pitching they need to replace 11 starts, and 111.4 innings pitched out of 349.8. thats almost a third of total innings piched. I believe Colgain and Murphy are good bets for the starting rotation. With Ian Walsh and Ian Barry, the other POSSIBLE weekend starters.  That leaves open week day starts.

They also lose a lot of Offense, they lose 133 starts and most of the meat of their batting order. Ryan Mulligan will be back,Charlie Apfrlbach, and Andrew Toughey.  Afelbach was a number one hitter most the year, Ryan was in the 4,4, or 5 spot most the year, with Toughey moving around a bit.
Clemson,Kraus, and  Duxburry were in the meat of the order with Hall some where near the bottom of the order.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 30, 2013, 02:34:07 PM
Some images and an article that includes some Notes about the upgrade to Littick field in Delaware.
http://blogs.owu.edu/connect2/2013/08/29/renovations-refresh-athletic-facilities/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.owu.edu%2Fconnect2%2Ffiles%2F2013%2F08%2F20130829-AthleticConstruction3-640x426.jpg&hash=7e63b7299744ea83c45a4ca803a2220ce19bcde8)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 09, 2013, 11:37:18 AM
Many teams in the NCAC will be starting fall workouts and intra-squad scrimmages. OWU starts work outs this week and scrimmages on the weekends. I will be going out Saturday to watch. Son will probably not pitch much but a good chance to see the new kids and see how far the sophomores have come.

Good luck to everyone during the fall. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on September 09, 2013, 02:49:26 PM
Denison starts tomorrow. Fun times. Too far to drive ;D Will have to rely on reports from afar. However, all I get from the boy is everything is "fine".

I'm convinced that boys don't go off to school; they join the witness protection program.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Kenworth on September 09, 2013, 10:09:03 PM
Speaking as a Marietta ex parent, your son at Denison is in great hands.  Coach Deegan was well received by the parents I spoke with last year.  Their only regret was that their sons were Seniors and did not have any years left.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on September 10, 2013, 10:32:56 AM
Kenworth---I agree 100% re Coach Deegan. We have been extremely impressed with him and frankly Coach Deegan and the entire coaching staff is the reason my son is at Denison. He had other 'warmer' options but was convinced that playing for Deegan was where he would get better and be part of something special.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 13, 2013, 03:29:59 PM
More progress on the backstop.
https://twitter.com/OWUbaseball1/status/378182807203229696/photo/1
I am going up to Delaware tomorrow. I am not sure how they are going to have the scrimmages tomorrow but My son says they are on. I will take my camera and get some shots.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 14, 2013, 03:52:40 PM
Just got back from the first scrimmage. Looks like 9 young men in the Freshman class. Lost a few from last year's freshmen class. Looks like most the kids have hit the weight room.
First day of pitching looked pretty good. They were on;y allowed to throw fastball and change up. Several sophomores looked like they really improved and will help out either in the rotation or bullpen.
Hitting looked decent, but hard to tell when they know that a curve will not be coming.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCACfan22 on September 18, 2013, 01:43:25 PM
Just received word that Oberlin is installing an artificial turf playing surface for their field that will be ready for the first game of the Spring. Absolutely huge news for that program
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 18, 2013, 01:49:38 PM
I'll say. Good to hear. It should help with the weather. In the NCAC we now have Wooster and Oberlin with artificial turf. Fan22, do you know if it will be the whole filed or only the infield only like Wooster.
Good to see Oberlin make the investment.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on September 20, 2013, 12:45:33 PM
I hate, HATE the way that all turf looks at OSU.  It seems criminal to me to go to the ballpark and there isn't a blade of grass or an ounce of dirt.  The problem is that in this state it's a huge advantage because of the weather.  I'm happy for Oberlin.  That's a major deal for them.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 20, 2013, 08:36:05 PM
I hate the look at OSU as well. Youngest played their last summer. It is also very hot to play on in the summer. Those black beads soak up the heat. When we were there it was brutal.
Sons a catcher and he caught a game and half during the double header.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 21, 2013, 12:38:00 PM
Rain, rain, go away, OWU fallball Cancelled today. Darn it son was set to pitch two innings.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on September 26, 2013, 06:13:13 PM
Hey, Hey. The Pittsburgh Pirates make the playoffs. 21 years of losing has finally ended with a playoff birth. 1992 was the last winning season and playoff appearance for the Pirates. Roberto Clemente's ghost (#21) could not let the losing streak go beyond 21 years.  Lets go Bucs!!!!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 27, 2013, 08:39:00 PM
Old Scot,  truly value your opinion, but as usual we are on the opposite sides when rooting for a team again.  Go Reds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good to see you posting.

Wooster should be really good this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 28, 2013, 03:43:40 PM
My wife and I have just returned from Littick field. Son pitched two innings and looked good. He was pitching against what looked to be the starting line up next spring. Almost an all new infield but they looked very good. quite a few DP's made today that they had trouble with last year.
I know this is just fall, but I am more impressed with this team. Last fall, the hitting struggled quite a bit. There were a lot of fly balls and weak grounders. This year players are hitting the gaps and line drives. There was more smart hitting. They were hitting behind runners.
Things are looking good.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on September 30, 2013, 07:21:35 PM
BLD,
    I know rooting for the Pirates is not cool. I was a frosh at Woo when they won their last WS. Returning to respectability has been a long time coming. Lets go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope your son has a great season, except going against Wooster. (Ha Ha)
Can't wait for NCAC play in the spring.
Good luck to you and your son.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 30, 2013, 08:40:57 PM
I am actually happy to see them do so well. No more talk about how weak the central is. If they get past the Reds I hope they go all the way, I will not say that about the Cards.

Hopefully we wont see Wooster till the Championship.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 06, 2013, 10:38:53 PM
OWU got a game in yesterday. We saw some really good hitting and several of the pitchers were very good. Black squad won by one. Games were rained out for Sunday.
One more week of fall ball. next week they play against the Alumni.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 11, 2013, 12:26:07 PM
Congratulations to Oberlin. As per D3baseball Dill field is getting a new synthetic surface. This is the second team to add a turf field.

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2014/contrib/20131009imqwbd
While I do not personally like Turf fields, hate the look of Nick Swisher field at OSU. Plus in the Summer it is one HOT place to play. I can understand with Oberlin's location why this will be a good thing. Plus recruits like to see the school investing in facilities. This should bode well for the Yeomen with recruiting.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 11, 2013, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on October 06, 2013, 10:38:53 PM
OWU got a game in yesterday. We saw some really good hitting and several of the pitchers were very good. Black squad won by one. Games were rained out for Sunday.
One more week of fall ball. next week they play against the Alumni.
Well Black squad was only able to take that first game. Red squad swept the black on Monday to win the title. Bishop Lefty pitched 3 scoreless innings. I did not see any of it, just heard about it on Twitter and a text message from my son.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 11, 2013, 12:36:11 PM
Does anybody know the connection between Oberlin and Arizona? I know they go out to Arizona for their spring trip. and in the article below an Arizona company did their backstop.

http://www.goyeo.com/sports/2010/8/10/GEN_0810100132.aspx?id=240

They have one young man from AZ on their schedule.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 14, 2013, 10:17:44 PM
I found another NCAC player that played this summer in the Northwoods league. In fact Steve Hagen was named the 129 th best prospect. He played for the La Cross Loggers.

Here are his stats. He had a very good season.

Player         G   GS   CG           IP     H     R     ER    BB   SO   W      L      SV    2B    3B      ERA
Hagen, S     13   13   2          74.0   71   37   32   19   59      7     1      0       8      2      3.89
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 20, 2013, 03:20:07 PM
OWU's schedule is out.
Once the conference startrs it does not look like there are many weekday games.

http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 20, 2013, 03:22:19 PM
Denison's unofficial schedule. It is not complete yet.

http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 20, 2013, 03:27:14 PM
Depauw's Schedule,
Looks like the same deal as OWU as far week day games. Is this a new NCAC thing. I would not be surprised.

http://www.depauw.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/schedule/
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 20, 2013, 03:32:48 PM
Witt's schedule:

http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule

They have quite a few more week day games than Depauw and OWU. 29 games on schedule plus cross over and Tourney on schedule.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 20, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Wabash Schedule.

http://sports.wabash.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 20, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
East
Kenyon:
http://athletics.kenyon.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball&
Oberlin:
Not released yet
Hiram:
http://www.hiramterriers.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule
Allegheny:
http://alleghenygators.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=123&path=baseball
Wooster
Not released
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCACeaster on November 08, 2013, 01:32:54 PM
If you guys had to do the preseason rankings for the NCAC what would they be.  From top to bottom.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 10, 2013, 10:25:15 AM
Welcome to the board easter.
Any list has to start with Wooster. There 2014 roster is not out yet, but they have up to 17 sr. Coming back. After that it is hard to tell. Denison lost some key players. While there starting rotation should be real good, with Colgain, Murphy and Barry, the bull pen may be bare. Hopefully someone will step up. Oberlin had their best year in a long time, maybe all time, can they do it again or even get better? OWU had a bad year last year. Hopefully things will be better this year. I don't know enough about Alleghenny or Kenyon. And Hiram is Hiram. Wabash loses quite a few. Losing Timmons will be a big loss on the field and in the club house. After JT I am not sure who they will have in the rotation. Witt should be strong again and Depuw should be about the same.
This is all speculation on just perusing rosters, so do not take offense to anybodies team that I do not rank high enough.
1. Wooster
2. Witt
3. Denison
4/5 Allegheny/Depauw
6.OWU
7.Oberlin
8. Kenyon
9. Wabash
10. Hiram

This is all all conjecture, feel free to disagree.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 27, 2013, 07:10:20 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to all posters and lurkers. I am thankful for so many things. Safe travels all.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 25, 2013, 01:24:17 PM
Merry Christmas to all my internet baseball friends. Teams should start official work outs pretty soon.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on December 26, 2013, 01:04:11 PM
Hope everyone has a great holiday and enjoys having their sons home. Looking forward to the spring.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 26, 2013, 01:56:19 PM
Thanks Texas Dad. It is nice having him home, I just need to keep reminding myself he is used to being on his own and gently remind him what kind of communication I need about his comings and goings so his mother and I do no worry. And the increased food budget.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on December 27, 2013, 08:08:54 PM
That's funny BLD!  I remember my first Xmas break from college and my mom saying "be home by midnight". I gave her an odd look and my dad motioned me to leave. I heard him telling my mom "he lives on his own you can't possibly expect him to have a curfew anymore".  The only rule was let them know where I was going and if I was coming home or staying the night.  That was pre cell phones so with texting now that'd be easy!  Maybe not to an 18 yr old...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 03, 2014, 09:10:23 AM
I hope everyone had a happy New Year!

Son is still at home and I am greeted every night when I walk in the door with "Whats for Dinner?"
Looks like Wooster is listed in the top 30 in two polls. Looks like one poll copied off the other and they just looked how teams finished last year.

NCAA:
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3

ABCA:
http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseball-div-3-poll-12-24-13/

Good news is OWU will be playing some of these teams.
Case Western ranked 29 by both.
Marietta Ranked 19 by both.

And they may see Wooster if OWU gets to the NCAC tourney.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on January 03, 2014, 10:24:34 AM
...and how much has the food bill gone up??

Mine triples for about three weeks  :o.  They are calorie burning machines, particularly since he is in the weight room, cardio work,  or throwing or hitting.

Happy New Year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on January 08, 2014, 07:12:06 PM
Denison's schedule is posted.

http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 09, 2014, 01:52:17 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 03, 2014, 10:24:34 AM
...and how much has the food bill gone up??

Mine triples for about three weeks  :o.  They are calorie burning machines, particularly since he is in the weight room, cardio work,  or throwing or hitting.

Happy New Year.
Mine at least triples. Not only that but I have gone from taking the trash to the curb once every other week to 2 trash cans a week. Mostly from the trappings of the extra food. Every time I turn around the trash can is overflowing.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 09, 2014, 01:59:16 PM
Quote from: TexasDad on January 08, 2014, 07:12:06 PM
Denison's schedule is posted.

http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule
TexasDad,
Do you know where they are going for spring. It does not look like the usual cast of characters that show up to the snowbird classic in port Charlotte Florida.

See the schedue is up as well.

Looks like the team numbers climed by 10, up to 34.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on January 09, 2014, 02:48:49 PM
This year it is Florida is Russ Matt Central Florida Invitational.
http://www.russmattbaseball.com/page/home/centralflorida

South of Orlanda near Lakeland is what I'm learning.

Roster size did increase from last year and that's a good thing I would think. 34 sounds like a good size. 24 had to have been difficult. From son's comments it also sounded like they had a number of recruits come through Granville in the Fall.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 09, 2014, 06:17:20 PM
That's a really strong schedule. That FL schedule is great and followed up by Etta first game back.  Way to crank up the competition Big Red.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on January 10, 2014, 09:57:31 AM
Where are the other Conference teams going for Spring Break?

Do they typically travel anywhere other than Florida?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 10, 2014, 10:19:41 AM
Most of the Ohio teams go to Florida.  Sometimes if they go by bus they'll stop on the way and play a DH with a school in TN or GA maybe.  Most then play 10 games in FL.  I remember Etta went to TX at some point to play their games against some TX D3 schools.  I think FL ends up being the default though because there are tons of other D3 teams down there to play so you can put together a nice schedule.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on January 10, 2014, 10:35:13 AM
Makes sense.
Would be nice to get him home for a week of games; but that is unlikely.
Some very nice programs out west (son looked at them before deciding on Denison) but the travel becomes an issue I guess.
Just trying to learn my way around D3 ball these days.
Thanks for the insight
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 10, 2014, 10:56:08 AM
See if this link works...it's a map of the NCAA D3 football programs.  It's enlightening as to the landscape of D3.  Very, very heavily weighted towards the Midwest and East. 

D3 Map (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NCAA_Division_3_football_map.gif)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 10, 2014, 11:43:33 AM
More and more teams are starting to go to Myrtle beach as well. While there is no tournament, like the Russmatt and snowbird. They sign up to play at the Ripken experience and schedule other teams that will be there. Manchester was there last year. OWU will be going there this year. and then probably alternating between Fla and Myrtle beach, if things go well.

Not sure who we are going to face yet but we come back to hiedelberg, and then two DH's with Case.

Kenyon is an interesting case. They spend close to two weeks in Florida, March 2- march 14 and get most of their out of conference games out of the way. THey come back and have one weekend before conference games start and the go to PA to play University of Pittsburg at Greenburg. Then on their bye weekend in confernce play they against Witt. But once they get back from Florida their are no weekday games.

Pitchers get work early in the season but if you do not make it into the rotation by then the second half of the season pitchers can see limited playing time.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on January 10, 2014, 12:24:32 PM
DR--Interesting map. Would be interested if there is one for D3 baseball teams. I know there are more D3 colleges that have baseball but not football. University of Dallas (last year's Denison assistant now the head coach there) and Centenary in Shreveport are 2 examples. But, I understand the logistics of getting teams in one spot to play.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 16, 2014, 09:13:28 AM
D3Baseball has released their preseason baseball top 25.

http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2014/2014-week-0

NCAC, Wooster comes in at 33. No other NCAC teams make the list. I believe Wooster will eventually climb into the top 25. They have a large number of Seniors comming back. Not sure who elase in the NCAC could make this list.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 19, 2014, 11:57:23 AM
OWU clinic is today. I know several players attending.

I hope everybody enjoys the experience.
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Post by: TexasDad on January 21, 2014, 10:24:20 AM
Denison: It's about that time... pic.twitter.com/FKQNPXvpbf
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on January 21, 2014, 10:27:39 AM
sorry the link won't work. Never said I was very bright.

Going to be cold in Ohio this week. A shock to the boy I'm sure. Was 68 degrees when he left on Sunday to head back to school.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 21, 2014, 01:48:26 PM
Thanks to spence for pointing this out, D3 preseason all americans are out.


One NCAC guy: Reese from Wooster.

http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2014
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on February 03, 2014, 05:14:12 PM
Mid-East Regional Preview is out.

http://d3baseball.com/notables/2014/01/2014-previews/2014-mideast-regional-preview (http://d3baseball.com/notables/2014/01/2014-previews/2014-mideast-regional-preview)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 03, 2014, 05:59:16 PM
This is pretty early for the mid-east. Thanks for posting. This is a pretty good write up for the region.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 05, 2014, 12:27:07 PM
It is not posted to the website yet, but I received OWU's roster in my Email.  Confirms a couple of transfers for me. I will not be posting it until it is released on their site.

Season is getting closer.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 05, 2014, 02:06:09 PM
This is old news, But here goes.

The following players have been named by Collegiate baseball as DIII players to watch
Wooster
RHP
Kyle Koski
Steve Hagen
Second base
Eddie Reese
OF
Zach Mathie

No other NCAC players made the list

No link because they do not post issue online.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 06, 2014, 04:17:09 PM
2014 Rosters
West
Denison http://www.denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/roster
33 on Roster
2 SR. 1 Pitcher and 1 position Player
9 JR. 4 Pitchers/pos 5 Position Players
7 SO. 2 Pitchers 5 Position Players
15 FR.  6 Pitchers/Pos 9 Position Players

Depauw http://www.depauw.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/roster/2014/
40 on Roster
11 SR. 5 Pitchers 6 Position Players
8 JR. 4 Pitchers/Pos 4 Position Players
6 SO. 2 Pitchers 4 Position Players

Witt http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/roster
35 Players on Roster
7 SR. 4 Pitchers/Pos 3 Position Players
5 JR. 3 Pitchers/Pos 2 Position Players
9 SO. 5 Pitcher/pos 4 Position Players
13 FR. 6 Pitcher/Pos 7 Position Players

OWU http://www.battlingbishops.com/roster.aspx?roster=80&path=baseball
34 Players
2 SR. 1 Pitcher/Position Player, 1 Position Player
6 JR. 5 Pitchers/Position Players 1 Position Player
16 SO. 6 Pitchers/Position players 10 Position players
10 FR.  2 Pitchers/Position Players  8 Position Players


Wabash http://sports.wabash.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball
50 Players
6 SR. 3 pitchers and 3 position players
11 JR. 6 Pitchers and 5 Position players
9 SO. 3 Pitchers and 6 Position players
23 FR 7 Pitchers and 16 position players.

JT miller the senior pitcher will probably compete for pitcher of the year in the NCAC. He has good stuff. He would have to beat out Hagen from Wooster. JT played in the Northwoods last summer. He was 4-3 with a 4.76 Era in 12 starts and 62.1 innings pitched.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 06, 2014, 04:57:52 PM
2014 Rosters
East
Wooster: http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/roster (not official yet, I had to cheat to get it) I will give anyone who guesses how 1 point in Karma.
16 Sr. 7 Pitcher/Pos 9 Position players
5 JR 1 Pitcher 4 Position players
9 SO. 5 Pitcher/pos 4 position players
10 Freshmen 6 Pitchers 4 Position players

Alleghenny: http://www.alleghenysports.com/roster.aspx?roster=166&path=baseball Incomplete, it does not list any freshmen
8 SR. 5 Pitchers/pos 3 position players
8 JR. 3 Pitcher 5 position players
3 So. 0 pitchers 3 Position players

Oberlin: http://www.goyeo.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball&
6 SR. 3 Pitcher/pos 3 Position players
9 JR. 5 Pitcher/pos 4 position players
15 SO. 8 Pitchers 7 position players
10 FR. 3 Pitchers 7 position players

Kenyon: http://athletics.kenyon.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball&
2 SR. 1 pitcher 1 position player
6 JR. 4 Pitchers 2 position players
6 SO. 3 pitchers 3 position players
12 FR. 3 Pitchers 9 Position players

With few upper class-men position players, This looks to be a transition year for Kenyon. My guess is we will see quite a few freshmen in the field.

Hiram: http://www.hiramterriers.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/roster
5 SR. 0 pitchers 5 Position players
11 JR. 3 Pitchers 8 Position players
4 SO. 2 Pitchers 2 Position players
13 FR. 2 Pitchers 11 Position players

Unless some of those position players can pitch, the rotation and bull pen look pretty slim.

I will do the west another day.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 06, 2014, 05:00:36 PM
NCAC opens on 2-22 with Wabash playing Hendrix in Arkansas and Alleghenny playing John Carroll in Beckley WVA.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 10, 2014, 01:26:38 PM
Masseys has the NCAC ranked as the 10th best conference as per their criteria.

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2014&sub=11620&c=1

Here are how the teams rank

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2014&sub=11620&c=1&c=0

Wooster: 20
Denison: 65
Depauw: 70
Allegheny: 108
Wittenberg: 112
Ohio Wesleyan: 139
Kenyon: 140
Oberlin: 158
Wabash: 189
Hriam: 298

Take these with a grain of salt. No games have been played yet. Some teams will rise and some will fall.








Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on February 10, 2014, 01:43:20 PM
This is from the football FAQ, but I'm guessing it works the same.

"Preseason ratings are based on an extrapolation recent years' results, tuned to fit historical trends and regression to the mean. A team's future performance is expected to be consistent with the strength of the program, but sometimes there may be temporary spikes."

Now, where I start to get lost is when he started Marietta at #9 when they've been champions 2 of the last 3 years, and finished 2nd in the region replacing a whole pitching staff last year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 10, 2014, 02:05:34 PM
Thomas More and Adrian are ranked in the 80's.  That told me all I need to know.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 10, 2014, 02:05:54 PM
Yeah I agree, Spence. I certainly hope OWU does better than 139, but they had a bad year last year, and have been trending down for a couple of years so I am not surprised.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 10, 2014, 02:20:25 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on February 10, 2014, 02:05:34 PM
Thomas More and Adrian are ranked in the 80's.  That told me all I need to know.

Funny thing about Thomas More, Last year they are playing at OWU, I forget what inning but I believe they were winning. Clearly they were low on pitching. I believe they may have had a kid in the bull pen shortly after the start of the game. No pitcher went more than 2 innings, and they went through 6 pitchers. Anyway one of our boys hits a long fly ball to left field. Left fielder is running toward the fence to field the ball. OWU had an old plywood wall. Kid kid of leans on it hard trying to catch the ball. The section of the wall comes down. Everybody is standing around trying to decide what to do. Thomas More Head coach is arguing clearly the game cannot be completed, because the field was missing an 8 foot section. Mott was arguing we could continue to play. (was not a heated argument). Kobe the pitching coach grabs a couple of players a hammer and some nails and they go out the boys hold the plywood up while Kobe pounds enough nails into the thing to sink a good sized boat. Coaches are still arguing and Kobe comes to the plate and lets the ump know that the wall has been repaired. The boys play on.

Owu wins 5-4
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on February 10, 2014, 09:17:58 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 10, 2014, 02:20:25 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on February 10, 2014, 02:05:34 PM
Thomas More and Adrian are ranked in the 80's.  That told me all I need to know.

Funny thing about Thomas More, Last year they are playing at OWU, I forget what inning but I believe they were winning. Clearly they were low on pitching. I believe they may have had a kid in the bull pen shortly after the start of the game. No pitcher went more than 2 innings, and they went through 6 pitchers. Anyway one of our boys hits a long fly ball to left field. Left fielder is running toward the fence to field the ball. OWU had an old plywood wall. Kid kid of leans on it hard trying to catch the ball. The section of the wall comes down. Everybody is standing around trying to decide what to do. Thomas More Head coach is arguing clearly the game cannot be completed, because the field was missing an 8 foot section. Mott was arguing we could continue to play. (was not a heated argument). Kobe the pitching coach grabs a couple of players a hammer and some nails and they go out the boys hold the plywood up while Kobe pounds enough nails into the thing to sink a good sized boat. Coaches are still arguing and Kobe comes to the plate and lets the ump know that the wall has been repaired. The boys play on.

Owu wins 5-4

Does Kobe get credit for a save?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 11, 2014, 08:58:08 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on February 10, 2014, 09:17:58 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 10, 2014, 02:20:25 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on February 10, 2014, 02:05:34 PM
Thomas More and Adrian are ranked in the 80's.  That told me all I need to know.

Funny thing about Thomas More, Last year they are playing at OWU, I forget what inning but I believe they were winning. Clearly they were low on pitching. I believe they may have had a kid in the bull pen shortly after the start of the game. No pitcher went more than 2 innings, and they went through 6 pitchers. Anyway one of our boys hits a long fly ball to left field. Left fielder is running toward the fence to field the ball. OWU had an old plywood wall. Kid kid of leans on it hard trying to catch the ball. The section of the wall comes down. Everybody is standing around trying to decide what to do. Thomas More Head coach is arguing clearly the game cannot be completed, because the field was missing an 8 foot section. Mott was arguing we could continue to play. (was not a heated argument). Kobe the pitching coach grabs a couple of players a hammer and some nails and they go out the boys hold the plywood up while Kobe pounds enough nails into the thing to sink a good sized boat. Coaches are still arguing and Kobe comes to the plate and lets the ump know that the wall has been repaired. The boys play on.

Owu wins 5-4

Does Kobe get credit for a save?
He should. Plus Now the field received a new fence with a hitters eye this year. I believe it was already scheduled to go in place. But that had been the case for several years and it kept getting delayed. I think this put some emphasis to get it completed.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on February 14, 2014, 02:47:07 PM
Good luck to all the other schools that are starting today (or started earlier). Looking forward to seeing some baseball. Does it EVER warm up in the NCAC?

Question for the newbies: how far in advance will a school typically announce the cancellation of a game for weather? For example, Denison plays in 2 weeks in Chillicothe. (Appropriate name for a baseball venue this time of year). I'm assuming there is still 2 feet of snow on the ground. How far in advance will they typically pull the plug?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 14, 2014, 03:37:28 PM
It's going to be in the 40's in Columbus in the next week so it'll hopefully melt some snow.  And VA Stadium in Chillicothe is FieldTurf so as long as they get rid of the snow they'll probably try to play.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 14, 2014, 09:49:50 PM
In fact VA stadium is all turf, even the mound. Last two years my son has started the season down there. First year it was in the high 20's to low 30's, with high winds and snow flurries. VA stadium hosts a lot of teams this time of year.

Cancelations sometimes can be at the last moment some times. At least one time last year the team had traveled to within a few miles of the field before the game was cancelled. This was a two hour trip. Most teams will do all they can to get a game in. With Ohio weather you never may have trouble making up games.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 18, 2014, 01:25:32 PM
Bishops posted their 2014 Roster

http://www.battlingbishops.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Picked up a few transfers for the Sophomore and one for the Junior class.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 18, 2014, 02:18:17 PM
A stat from last year.
NCAA division III
Toughest to strike out
http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/pdf/rankings?rptWeeks=13&statSeq=339&div=3&sportCode=MBA&academicYear=2013&rptType=PDF&doWhat=showrankings

4 Sean Vollenweider, Ohio Wesleyan Jr. 3B 37 138 3 46.0
Nate Lotze, Kenyon Jr. INF 37 138 6 23.0
49 Mike Kastelic, Allegheny Sr. OF 40 134 6 22.3
52 Bryan Miller, Wooster Jr. INF 42 132 6 22.0
126 David Moore, Wittenberg Jr. INF 39 147 9 16.3
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on February 18, 2014, 03:00:33 PM
OWU looks like a very young team. Will obviously improve as the season rolls along... And then there is next year and the year after.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 18, 2014, 03:31:23 PM
Yeah they are, last years senior class was small as well, with only 5, one of those was a pitcher only and 2 were not starters. So last years freshman and Soph's got quite a bit of playing time. Hopefully they will build on that experience.

Starting pitching was hot and cold last year,tThe pitching coach will get that turned around this year I believe. We saw good things from Munger last year, he will build on that. Moss, looked really good fall of Freshman year, then got hurt and he did not throw at all last spring. He looked good again last fall, added quite a bit of velocity. The pitching corp should be healthy this year, and this year will hopefully be better.

I am very optimistic.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on February 19, 2014, 09:34:25 AM
Wooster posted their 2014 Seaon Outlook. 
http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201402179ck66c

Roster and Schedule

Roster:
http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/roster

Schedule:
http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 19, 2014, 12:03:31 PM
CountyRoad,
That is a good right up. I fully expect Wooster to do great things this year. The NCAC is theirs to win. It would take a huge implosion for them not to win it all. No other teams have their experience. As much as I dislike Wooster being an OWU fan, I have to respect the team they put together.

If they do well, do you think there is any chance that Pettorini would consider retirement? ;)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on February 19, 2014, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 19, 2014, 12:03:31 PM
CountyRoad,
That is a good right up. I fully expect Wooster to do great things this year. The NCAC is theirs to win. It would take a huge implosion for them not to win it all. No other teams have their experience. As much as I dislike Wooster being an OWU fan, I have to respect the team they put together.

If they do well, do you think there is any chance that Pettorini would consider retirement? ;)

I have no idea if Pettorini would consider retirement. He's certainly been with Wooster for a long time and done a fantastic job. Nothing lasts forever though. It's hard to imagine Wooster without Pettorini and Moore leading their respective sports.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on February 19, 2014, 02:08:59 PM
I spoke with Coach P within the last few weeks. He is really excited about this teams chance to go deep into the NCAA tourney.

His fire still seems to burn hot and I don't look for him to call it a career until he gets the "Walnut and Bronze."

Good luck Coach. Hopefully, this years team will achieve all your goals.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on February 19, 2014, 03:39:01 PM
I hope he coaches forever, since Englander probably would jump at the chance to return to his alma mater.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 19, 2014, 04:11:56 PM
Look at college coaches in this area and you will see quite a few of them are Wooster Grads. Pettorini, does a great job of turning out coaches. I believe Palm is a Wooster grad. Can anybody name any more?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 19, 2014, 05:06:47 PM
Matt Burdette at Kenyon is a Wooster grad (1992). 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 19, 2014, 05:49:25 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on February 19, 2014, 05:06:47 PM
Matt Burdette at Kenyon is a Wooster grad (1992).
Welcome to the boards Pops, always good to have new posters.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 19, 2014, 06:26:47 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on February 19, 2014, 03:39:01 PM
I hope he coaches forever, since Englander probably would jump at the chance to return to his alma mater.

He's got a good thing going at Case and Craddock is already at Wooster.  Maybe you guys would luck out!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 21, 2014, 09:34:41 PM
Ncac teams start tomorrow, Allegheny vs. John Carroll in beckley WVA. John Carroll lost today to Case Western 8-7.
Wabash VS Hendrix. Hendrix is 1-4 so far this season.

http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/schedule-results/2014

Interested in both these games. OWU plays John Carroll twice this season. That will give us a common opponent to compare to. It will be good to see how they do. It will be their first games. I hope they win or keep it close.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 21, 2014, 09:44:58 PM
Wabash season Preview:

http://sports.wabash.edu/news/2014/2/21/BB_0221143146.aspx?path=baseball

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 21, 2014, 09:52:33 PM
Allegheny Season Preview:
http://alleghenygators.com/news/2014/2/21/BB_0221144221.aspx
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 22, 2014, 03:21:21 PM
Wabash over Hendrix, 4-1 top of 2.
http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/hendrix.portal#

Nothing on Allegheny vs. John Carroll.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 22, 2014, 06:19:39 PM
Wabash wins 11-9 at Hendrix. No box score yet so all I know is that J.T miller started. I don't know how long he lasted. Good to see the offense start off well. Giving up 9 may not be good but will have to wait for the box score to see the whole story.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 22, 2014, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 22, 2014, 03:21:21 PM
Wabash over Hendrix, 4-1 top of 2.
http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/hendrix.portal#

Nothing on Allegheny vs. John Carroll.

They split.  12-6 JCU, 12-2 Gheny.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 22, 2014, 08:07:15 PM
Thanks Dr.
Wabash loses second game 3-10. I am still looking for a box score.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 23, 2014, 05:02:21 PM
Wabash loses today to Hendrix 1-8.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on February 24, 2014, 12:46:00 PM
We know Hendrix well. They have been outside for a couple of weeks playing both intra-squad and then 2+ weeks of regular season games. They are young but swing the bat well. CF is the real deal. First year coach who has the program moving in the right direction. Nothing shabby about Walbash's first games out of the gate with them.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 24, 2014, 02:41:41 PM
My son played with a couple of players from Hendrix last summer in Newark. Jacob Perschke, and Nick Land. Both were pitchers last summer. I see Jacob is a position player and not listed as a pitcher at all for Hendrix.

Is the CF Colin Radick? Because if it you are right he is the real deal. He played in Alaska last summer if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on February 24, 2014, 03:24:19 PM
Yes, Radick is the guy. Also,  RHP from there who my son played with in the past is set to play this summer for Newark if memory serves me correct. Will Nichol is the kid's name. Only a sophomore but he is a competitor.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bufordscot on February 24, 2014, 03:43:21 PM
It's really too bad the NCAA doesn't have a comprehensive stats page like the NAIA does.

http://www.dakstats.com/WebSync/Pages/Association.aspx?association=10
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 24, 2014, 04:24:11 PM
Not quite as pretty as that NAIA page but I have been able to find all I need here.

http://www.ncaa.com/Stats/baseball/d3

Considering the number of conferences and teams in D3 I am not sure a page such as NAIA's would work well.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 24, 2014, 04:28:21 PM
TexasDad,
My son will be in Va, next summer so I will probably be attending a couple of games in Newark. I will keep an eye out. Newark is not afraid to play D3 players. Land got quite a few innings last year and Perschke got quite a few starts. They also had a First baseman from Denison and a CF from Elmhurst, who played a lot of innings in critical games. It has payed off as Newark (licking County) have been back to back champions of the Great Lakes league for the last two years.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2014, 04:18:35 PM
Kenyon's first game of the season is against Augustana, who today is ranked in the D#baseball.com's top 25. Way to schedule a tougher opponent. I hope this is online.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 26, 2014, 06:43:51 PM
Battling Bishops spring preview:

http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2014/2/26/BA_2014pre_1.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on February 26, 2014, 08:11:15 PM
Recognizing that Mother Nature always wins, Denison cancels the Friday DH in Chillicothe and Sunday game in Northern KY. In a move to chase the sun (we don't get that much down here) Denison instead will travel to Beckley, West Virginia for a Saturday DH against Case Western and Marietta.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 26, 2014, 09:38:45 PM
THat is some good competition. I would not expect anything less from Deegan.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on February 28, 2014, 11:30:20 AM
Denison preview

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&list=UUAFwiuNOqgCl5qP7zFp16OQ&v=0eafi_Yyh6w&index=1 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&list=UUAFwiuNOqgCl5qP7zFp16OQ&v=0eafi_Yyh6w&index=1)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 01, 2014, 08:22:07 AM
Kenyon baseball preview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM893E-pw5g&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2014, 02:56:33 PM
OWU wins first 2 games of the eason, against Ohio Christian. 10-0 and 15-0.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2014, 03:28:56 PM
Anybody have any idea how Kenyon baseball is doing against Augustana?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2014, 09:08:29 PM
Kenyon Baseball loses opener to Augustana 0-11.

http://athletics.kenyon.edu/boxscore.aspx?id=2282&path=baseball

Jacobvitz and Krahn both pitched. Next game against Northland college.

http://athletics.kenyon.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball&
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2014, 09:21:20 PM
Depauw baseball drops a cople of close ones to Anderson, 5-6, and 3-5.

http://depauwtigers.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule

http://depauwtigers.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/20140301km1kho
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2014, 09:29:55 PM
Allegheny Baseball loses to Frostburg state, in extra innings (11) 12-13 and win against Pitt - Greensburg 9-5.

http://alleghenygators.com/boxscore.aspx?path=baseball&id=2361

Looks like thr Gators could be pretty formidable in the NCAC, this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on March 03, 2014, 09:55:03 AM
On Saturday, Denison lost to Case Western 12-7 and then to Marietta 5-0.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2014, 12:23:32 PM
Kenyon Baseball tallies a win against Northland College. 6-4.
http://athletics.kenyon.edu/sports/2014/1/24/BASE_0124140935.aspx?id=1022

Michael Jeffers starts and pitches 4.2 innings: 4 hits, 4 er, 2 hbp, 3 BB and 3 so.

Matt Delbridge gets the win afer 2.1 innings of work: 2 hits, 0 er, 1 bb and 1 so.

Way to go Lords.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 03, 2014, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: TexasDad on March 03, 2014, 09:55:03 AM
On Saturday, Denison lost to Case Western 12-7 and then to Marietta 5-0.

Both games that will serve them well down the road.  Like that Deegan schedules tough.  Get's the kids focused and definitely prepares them for conference play down the line.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2014, 04:52:36 PM
NCAC rated number 9 conference by Massey.

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2014&sub=11620&c=1

It does not really mean anything, as these polls have no effect on a pool c bid, and they could easily move way down this list quickly, but it is nice to see.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on March 04, 2014, 05:21:03 PM
I looked for UAA.  Massey still thinks CWRU is in the NCAC and has Emory in the SAA.


Edit:  I e-mailed Ken Massey, he will update next week.

There goes the NCAC ranking!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2014, 06:22:53 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on March 04, 2014, 05:21:03 PM
I looked for UAA.  Massey still thinks CWRU is in the NCAC and has Emory in the SAA.


Edit:  I e-mailed Ken Massey, he will update next week.

There goes the NCAC ranking!
Thanks a lot ADL. What a kick in the teeth. ;) Maybe he will accidently remove Hiram instead. Put them back in the OAC.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 04, 2014, 07:16:46 PM
We don't want em!  Wait, if we take them does that mean we send Wilmington back to the HCAC?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 05, 2014, 08:29:12 AM
You can send Wilmington back as long as the HCAC does not require that we take Earlham back. We would have to pick up another member though. Maybe case would like to be an affiliate for Baseball. They would fit nicely in the east bracket.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on March 05, 2014, 11:18:02 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 05, 2014, 08:29:12 AM
You can send Wilmington back as long as the HCAC does not require that we take Earlham back. We would have to pick up another member though. Maybe case would like to be an affiliate for Baseball. They would fit nicely in the east bracket.

I assume that is under the hypothetical departure of Hiram.

When the affiliation with PAC for football was announced inquired if a baseball affiliation for baseball was being considered, and was told "no."  It would give PAC an enen ten.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 05, 2014, 12:41:48 PM
ADL,
Yes:
Hiram goes back home to the OAC, Willmington goes back home to the HCAC, and Case comes back home to the NCAC.

Being serious now. When you asked about Baseball affiliation, were you asking about affiliation with the PAC in particular or an affiliation for baseball in general?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on March 05, 2014, 12:43:42 PM
PAC
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 05, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
OK,
I would love to have Case as an Affiliate of the NCAC for Baseball. They already play quite a few games against NCAC teams, OWU, Denison, Allegheny, and Oberlin. Unfortunately I do not ever seeing that happen, unless someone leaves the NCAC. I do not know of any schools that are currently unhappy with the conference, the last one was Earlham. I believe they left more over travel issues than anything else. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on March 06, 2014, 12:37:05 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 05, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
OK,
I would love to have Case as an Affiliate of the NCAC for Baseball. They already play quite a few games against NCAC teams, OWU, Denison, Allegheny, and Oberlin. Unfortunately I do not ever seeing that happen, unless someone leaves the NCAC. I do not know of any schools that are currently unhappy with the conference, the last one was Earlham. I believe they left more over travel issues than anything else.

That was one of the major reasons given although really I think the travel difference is fairly negligible.  I think the larger, unspoken reason for that move was to get into a league where the playing fields might be a little more even for Earlham than it was in the NCAC.  Total backfire though...Earlham hasn't been doing much better in the Heartland than they were in the North Coast.  No matter though...we are a better conference- athletically and academically- with DePauw.  That swap couldn't have worked out any better for the North Coast. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 06, 2014, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on March 06, 2014, 12:37:05 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 05, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
OK,
I would love to have Case as an Affiliate of the NCAC for Baseball. They already play quite a few games against NCAC teams, OWU, Denison, Allegheny, and Oberlin. Unfortunately I do not ever seeing that happen, unless someone leaves the NCAC. I do not know of any schools that are currently unhappy with the conference, the last one was Earlham. I believe they left more over travel issues than anything else.

That was one of the major reasons given although really I think the travel difference is fairly negligible.  I think the larger, unspoken reason for that move was to get into a league where the playing fields might be a little more even for Earlham than it was in the NCAC.  Total backfire though...Earlham hasn't been doing much better in the Heartland than they were in the North Coast.  No matter though...we are a better conference- athletically and academically- with DePauw.  That swap couldn't have worked out any better for the North Coast.

I agree Wally +1. I never saw Earlham play baseball, but they were always near the bottom of the conference. Depauw is a much better fit I believe.  Since Baseball is divided into east/west conferences, I felt that the west was going to be a bit harder than the east to win. Last year proved me wrong. We will see what happens this year. But facing good talent is always a good thing. I would rather OWU work hard for a win against Depauw than an easy win against Earlham.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2014, 01:54:24 PM
Tomorrow, The family and I are heading south to Myrtle Beach to watch OWU's spring training. Cannot wait to see some baseball above 40 degrees.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 07, 2014, 02:20:04 PM
I hope the weather improves. Mount's softball team is there this week and it sounds like it's been cold and rainy.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2014, 08:48:07 PM
Thanks, weather actually looks like it will be decent. We will see. I am just happy to see these guys play.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on March 10, 2014, 05:47:15 PM
Denison playing Anderson in Xenia, Ohio today.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 11, 2014, 07:13:03 AM
Wooster is not off to a great start. They lost their opener to Marietta Sunday (7-3) then got waxed by Heidelberg yesterday (14-1).

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2014, 11:22:18 AM
OWU is down in Myrtle beach this week.
Played Penn St. - Berks and won 11-0. Picked up a game against Albertus Magnus and won 11-4.
Competition has not been great but they are beating these teams as they should.
They play Catholic today, should be the toughest competition of the week.

I am sure Wooster will bounce back. They have been beat by some quality teams. By the end of the season they should be firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: TexasDad on March 10, 2014, 05:47:15 PM
Denison playing Anderson in Xenia, Ohio today.

Good win by Denison over Andersen, 12-2. Looks like Murphy and Colgain both pitched well. Colgain struck out more than half the batters he faced. He struck out 7 and faced 13.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 11, 2014, 11:36:55 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: TexasDad on March 10, 2014, 05:47:15 PM
Denison playing Anderson in Xenia, Ohio today.

Good win by Denison over Andersen, 12-2. Looks like Murphy and Colgain both pitched well. Colgain struck out more than half the batters he faced. He struck out 7 and faced 13.

Did they break the game up by 3 inning stints or something?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2014, 11:44:20 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 11, 2014, 11:36:55 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: TexasDad on March 10, 2014, 05:47:15 PM
Denison playing Anderson in Xenia, Ohio today.

Good win by Denison over Andersen, 12-2. Looks like Murphy and Colgain both pitched well. Colgain struck out more than half the batters he faced. He struck out 7 and faced 13.

Did they break the game up by 3 inning stints or something?

Murphy pitched 6 and Colgain 3.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 11, 2014, 01:54:43 PM
Wooster lost to Marietta again today 4-2.

There's no doubt Marietta and 'Berg are quality opponents, but I expected more from Wooster to start the season with the number of seniors they have. No, I'm not throwing in the towel already.  ;D ;D

I don't have the numbers in front of me but it seems the Wooster offense has been below standard for a few years in a row now.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 13, 2014, 07:14:10 AM
Wooster got the bats going and beat Salem St. 24-11 yesterday. Yes, 24-11.  :o  Sr. Zach Klein started and gave up 8 earned over 4 innings. I think they'll get in their groove.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 13, 2014, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 13, 2014, 07:14:10 AM
Wooster got the bats going and beat Salem St. 24-11 yesterday. Yes, 24-11.  :o  Sr. Zach Klein started and gave up 8 earned over 4 innings. I think they'll get in their groove.

Is Koski injured?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 13, 2014, 03:51:31 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 13, 2014, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 13, 2014, 07:14:10 AM
Wooster got the bats going and beat Salem St. 24-11 yesterday. Yes, 24-11.  :o  Sr. Zach Klein started and gave up 8 earned over 4 innings. I think they'll get in their groove.

Is Koski injured?

Koski has an "elbow problem." Coach P told the local paper that Koski would not pitch on the spring trip.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 13, 2014, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 13, 2014, 03:51:31 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 13, 2014, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 13, 2014, 07:14:10 AM
Wooster got the bats going and beat Salem St. 24-11 yesterday. Yes, 24-11.  :o  Sr. Zach Klein started and gave up 8 earned over 4 innings. I think they'll get in their groove.

Is Koski injured?

Koski has an "elbow problem." Coach P told the local paper that Koski would not pitch on the spring trip.

At least he didn't say "he's out with an elbow". I hate that.

That explains why he hasn't pitched. I figured he would go against Heidelberg or the second MC game.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 14, 2014, 09:10:30 AM
Quote from: Spence on March 13, 2014, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 13, 2014, 03:51:31 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 13, 2014, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 13, 2014, 07:14:10 AM
Wooster got the bats going and beat Salem St. 24-11 yesterday. Yes, 24-11.  :o  Sr. Zach Klein started and gave up 8 earned over 4 innings. I think they'll get in their groove.

Is Koski injured?

Koski has an "elbow problem." Coach P told the local paper that Koski would not pitch on the spring trip.

At least he didn't say "he's out with an elbow". I hate that.

That explains why he hasn't pitched. I figured he would go against Heidelberg or the second MC game.

That drives me nuts too. Or, "he's got a knee."  ::)  I got a knee and elbow and neither keep from doing anything. Whatever.  ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on March 14, 2014, 04:54:26 PM
I've got an Knee an Elbow and a bunch of other parts, all of which keep me from playing baseball at a very bad level.   :P
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 14, 2014, 10:51:35 PM
Good win for Wooster over #6 Webster.  They won 9-7 to even their record to 3-3.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on March 15, 2014, 10:01:45 PM
Another good win today (Saturday) over #18 Johns Hopkins by a 5-2 score.  :)  Wooster has now won 4 in a row.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 15, 2014, 10:07:05 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on March 15, 2014, 10:01:45 PM
Another good win today (Saturday) over #18 Johns Hopkins by a 5-2 score.  :)  Wooster has now won 4 in a row.

Good deal, I knew their first games were not indicative of this team.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 16, 2014, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 15, 2014, 10:07:05 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on March 15, 2014, 10:01:45 PM
Another good win today (Saturday) over #18 Johns Hopkins by a 5-2 score.  :)  Wooster has now won 4 in a row.

Good deal, I knew their first games were not indicative of this team.

It always seems to take Wooster about a week or so for whatever reason to get their bearings to start a season.  Plus they don't ever shy away from playing tough opponents right out of the gate with their annual spring trip to FLA as 4 of Woo's 7 games thus far coming against ranked opponents and a 5th was vs. one in ORV... 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 16, 2014, 07:49:56 PM
OWU faces Heidelberg midweek. then has dh's Saturday and Sunday against Case. the following week they face John Carroll and Marietta.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 17, 2014, 07:52:13 AM
I'm relieved to see Wooster on track now. I'm hopeful to get Koski back in the fold at some point, but I'm pretty excited about the work of freshman Buckingham so far.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 17, 2014, 05:08:56 PM
Wooster won their 5th in a row 21-10 over Wisc. Platteville. No box score available just yet.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 18, 2014, 06:36:50 PM
Wooster's winning streak continued today with a 12-3 victory over Nichols. Got a quality opponent tomorrow in Birmingham Southern. BSC seems to have a deep pitching staff.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 19, 2014, 11:17:58 AM
Hopefully OWU gets the game in today. The game against Heidelberg, has been moved to Littick field in Delaware.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on March 19, 2014, 01:22:11 PM
As have Sunday's 2 w/ CWRU.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 19, 2014, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 19, 2014, 11:17:58 AM
Hopefully OWU gets the game in today. The game against Heidelberg, has been moved to Littick field in Delaware.

Based on the weather in Dublin I'm guessing it doesn't look promising in Delaware.  It's been a steady rain all day pretty much.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 19, 2014, 02:10:49 PM
Not cancelled yet. But I do not see how they will get the game in. Heidelberg would be on the bus about now.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 19, 2014, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on March 19, 2014, 01:22:11 PM
As have Sunday's 2 w/ CWRU.

Woo Hoo 4 home games against Case. Gronski is from Hilliard, this probably makes his Dad happy.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 22, 2014, 06:07:44 AM
Wooster completed their spring trip with an 8-4 record.

Their home opener is next weekend with a 4 game series against Kenyon. Kenyon is currently 8-6.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 24, 2014, 12:26:49 PM
NCAC standings as we head in to the first weekend of conference games.  Only 3 teams above .500 so far this spring. 

2014 NCAC Baseball Standings
     NCAC    Overall
                   W    L    Win %    W    L    Win %    Streak    Last 10
Allegheny    0    0    0.000      8    4    0.667    Lost 1    7-3
Wooster      0    0    0.000      8    4    0.667    Won 2    8-2
Kenyon        0    0    0.000     8    6    0.571    Lost 1    6-4
Oberlin        0    0    0.000     3    3    0.500    Won 2    3-3
OWU           0    0    0.000      5    6    0.455    Lost 5    4-6
Wabash      0    0    0.000      5    6    0.455    Lost 2    4-6
Hiram          0    0    0.000      3    6    0.333    Lost 3    3-6
Wittenberg 0    0    0.000      3    6    0.333    Lost 1    3-6
Denison      0    0    0.000      3    7    0.300    Lost 1    3-7
DePauw      0    0    0.000      2    7    0.222    Lost 3    2-7
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 26, 2014, 09:50:36 AM
Thanks Pops,
Teams in the NCAC have drastically different scheduling philosophies. So once conference play starts this will change drastically.

For example, in no particular order.
Denison: http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule probably has one of the toughest non conference schedules in the NCAC. As long as the losing does not get the kids down they should be ready for conference play. And should quickly climb to the top.

Allegeheny: http://alleghenygators.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball probably has a middling schedule, with some really good teams and other that are not so Good. They MAY fall back.

OWU: http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball schedule has some very tough teams and some not so good teams. We will have to wait and see how conference play starts out.

Depauw: http://depauwtigers.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule  has played some very good teams, and beat Manchester twice. They also beat a historically good team in Piedmont. I do not know how good Andersen and Hanover are so no comment on that part of their schedule.

Wooster: http://woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule has played some very good teams. I think they have a very good schedule.

Kenyon: http://athletics.kenyon.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball (site is currently down so cannot verify.) plays a pretty easy non conference schedule. They did play Augustana, but the rest of the schedule is not too hard.

Oberlin: http://www.goyeo.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball Similiar schedule to Kenyon, not the hardest and I do not see any really tough top 25 teams.

Wabash: http://sports.wabash.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball They played some Good teams in Hendrix and Piedmont. The rest of their schedule is pretty middling.

Hiram: http://www.hiramterriers.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule they played Alvernia and Otterbien, besides that pretty light schedule.

Witt: http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule I could be wrong but their schedule does not look that strong. Not sure why they have the record that they do.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 26, 2014, 04:17:34 PM
OWU's game against the Muskies in New Concord has been postponed until April 16th.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on March 27, 2014, 12:24:08 PM
Denison's game with Marietta was canceled. They then tried to get a game in today against Kenyon. That too has been canceled. Last I heard the games for this weekend are still a go.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on March 27, 2014, 12:48:43 PM
CWRU hoping to get two in at Heidelberg now on Friday.  Weekend with Allegheny now at Kent State turf field one on Sat two 9-inning on Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on March 27, 2014, 06:32:27 PM
Denison has reset this weekend's games with DePauw for Sunday and Monday
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 28, 2014, 08:39:57 AM
Kenyon vs. Wooster has been rescheduled for Sunday and Monday.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 28, 2014, 05:33:47 PM
OWU is scheduled against Marietta sunday. But if Marietta cannot get their games in against BW, it may be canceled or postponed.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 30, 2014, 07:16:06 AM
Conference play, starts today. Hope everybady gets their games in.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 30, 2014, 07:43:04 PM
Wabash won the first game against Witt. 8-3
Wabash winning in the 8th 14-0 in game two against Witt.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 30, 2014, 07:50:05 PM
Denison vs. Depauw, Wooster vs. Kenyon, and Oberlin Vs. Hiram, will try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 30, 2014, 10:51:22 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 30, 2014, 07:43:04 PM
Wabash won the first game against Witt. 8-3
Wabash winning in the 8th 14-0 in game two against Witt.

What's up in Springfield?  They appear to be down big time. Wabash isn't exactly world beaters. And Cap 1 hit them or something.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2014, 05:13:32 PM
I checked out there schedule and it was not that tough. It usually isn't in the spring. They lost 5 sr. last year, one of those was a pitcher. They still have Hutchinson and Moore. Looks like they have used a lot of different guys to pitch.

I am really surprised to see this drop off. They lost another one today 6-2. They are in the 10th in the second and losing 5-4.

It will be big if Wabash gets the sweep.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
Game 1 of Depauw vs. Denison:
Denison winning 4-1 bottom of the fourth. Connor Murphy pitching for Denison. Peck started for Depauw but has been pulled for Stuart.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2014, 05:24:06 PM
Wooster wins first game vs. Kenyon 10-5. Spencer Byers starts for Kenyon, and Hagen starts for Wooster.

Game 2 underway. 9-6 top of ninth. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2014, 05:27:21 PM
Can't update the Oberlin vs. Hiram game, the live stats are still pointing to the game when Oberlin played Williams.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2014, 05:28:37 PM
The teams that had to reschedule the Sunday games to later in the year, does anybody think this is an advantage? They can line up their top two starters to go again. Of coarse both theams playing get that benefit.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2014, 05:32:59 PM
Wow, Denison just pulled Murhphy and put in Colgain. I am surprised they did not save him for the second Game. I figure Deegan is going to split his 1/2 in game one and 3/4 in game 2.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2014, 05:35:03 PM
Denison's run are unearned. 4 errors by the tigers.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2014, 05:39:06 PM
Its official, Wabash gets the sweep. They have Non-conference games against Wooster next weekend, then back to conference play against Depauw.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2014, 05:57:46 PM
Denison wins the first game 5-2. I am interested to see the starting pitcher for game 2. Ian Barry?

One earned run given up by Depauw.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2014, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2014, 05:24:06 PM
Wooster wins first game vs. Kenyon 10-5. Spencer Byers starts for Kenyon, and Hagen starts for Wooster.

Game 2 underway. 9-6 top of ninth.
Wooster takes game 2.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2014, 08:24:37 PM
Denison winning second game, 4-2. Depauw has 3 more errors.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on April 01, 2014, 02:26:21 PM
Denison won game 2 by a final of 7-2. Some solid pitching and defense. Amazing that they could even play given the field conditions a day earlier. Turf would be a nice addition. Denison plays Ohio Northern today. The Wednesday game against John Carroll is flushed. I'm guessing the Monday games stressed the staff and they want to save pitching for weekend?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on April 01, 2014, 05:50:20 PM
Wooster beat Kenyon 25-14 in game 1 today.
Wooster won game 2 14-6.

No surprise Wooster had 6 HR's on the day. The wind is howling (blowing out).

Wooster moves to 12-4 (4-0)
Kenyon drops to 8-10 (0-4)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 07, 2014, 09:52:29 AM
The LGs got two out of three from Wooster this weekend in Chillicothe.  JT Miller went the distance and scattered six hits in game 1; a 3-1 win for Wabash.  Wooster rallied in Saturday's nightcap with 4 runs in the 8th to get game 2 5-2.  Clint Scarborough walked off with a 2-run HR in the bottom of the 12th yesterday to give Wabash the 8-6 win.  Looked like a really well played and competitive series over the weekend. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on April 10, 2014, 09:58:20 PM
BLD, saw you guys are going through a horrendous streak. What's been the problem? I have been too busy fending off attacks by Spence over on the OAC board to look too much at box scores. If you need an ear to vent to, we are here for you.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 11, 2014, 06:15:58 AM
It has been a frustrating season. Quite a few injuries at important positions. We are on our three or four deep in some spots. Not enough pitching, Injuries again. Team is very young. I feel very bad for this years seniors.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on April 11, 2014, 11:21:21 AM
Bishops---Good luck this weekend against Denison. Weather looks pretty good. Maybe they get all 4 in this time. Would enjoy the opportunity to say hello if you are making the trip.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 11, 2014, 01:43:47 PM
I am planning on it, Son is scheduled to pitch first game.

I would love to meet, I will wear a blue Cinci reds cap.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on April 11, 2014, 03:30:26 PM
I'll be in the red Denison hat ;D

See you Saturday
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 12, 2014, 07:35:51 PM
LGs split with DePauw today  2-1 loss in game 1 followed by a 6-2 win in game 2.

Why are we playing games with different lengths? I don't care if we play four 7s in a weekend of three 9s, but for the love of Ernie Banks pick one and stick with it. Six more outs in game 1 would have been nice.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: DP 6-4-3 on April 12, 2014, 08:26:25 PM
Walter,
In four years of watching my son play ball, division games have always been 7 & 9 innings. Tomorrow's games will be 7 & 9 innings.  They schedule a 7 in the event that the first game goes extra innings.  Last weeks games with Wooster were different, both NCAC teams one from the East, one from the West.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 12, 2014, 10:07:17 PM
Quote from: DP 6-4-3 on April 12, 2014, 08:26:25 PM
Walter,
In four years of watching my son play ball, division games have always been 7 & 9 innings. Tomorrow's games will be 7 & 9 innings.  They schedule a 7 in the event that the first game goes extra innings.  Last weeks games with Wooster were different, both NCAC teams one from the East, one from the West.

The 7 & 9 thing is a recent development (2012). Prior to that it was all 7s. I'd prefer to see the weekend series be three 9 inning games like the rest of civilization.  Grown up baseball games are 9 innings long. We should be doing that.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on April 12, 2014, 11:15:17 PM
Wally, the OAC had played 7 and 9 DH's for a good while before going to 2 9 inning games this year. I fully agree, it is silly to play 2 games in 1 day with 2 different sets of rules. Much prefer the 9 inning games. Let's play all the baseball we can get.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on April 12, 2014, 11:20:29 PM
That had to be a historic victory today for the Terriers over Wooster. Wonder when the last time they got a win over the Scots? Guess they made them mad, after losing 1-0 Wooster creamed them 26-1 in the 2nd game.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 12, 2014, 11:59:08 PM
I think you'll find your answer here...

http://bit.ly/OWCr9r

Spoiler alert, it's not as long as you probably think.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on April 13, 2014, 08:54:33 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 12, 2014, 11:59:08 PM
I think you'll find your answer here...

http://bit.ly/OWCr9r

Spoiler alert, it's not as long as you probably think.

If you can't answer a simple question, which in no way was directed to you in the first place, why waste space posting unless you just cannot stand to be without my attention for a single day. Was much easier than your crappy link to go to the Hiram website and read the story. By the way, if anyone else is curious, it was 2008 the last time Hiram beat Wooster.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 13, 2014, 11:41:45 AM
If you can't be bothered to go to a school website to find an answer to a question, you deserve whatever chiding you get.

Twice in a week that you've acted like something hadn't happened in ages and you were completely wrong. Maybe you should go looking for answers rather than asking silly questions.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on April 13, 2014, 02:25:49 PM
It's been over 6 years since they beat Wooster, I think that's a long time. I was too busy watching baseball on the Big Ten Network to look up the exact date. Excuse me for asking someone from the NCAC if they knew. I pity you that you crave attention so badly that you have to answer my every post.

BTW that rant about cable TV was the funniest thing I've read on here in ages. Even funnier than moving Thurs to Friday. Guess the moderator agreed with me since he was the one that answered.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 13, 2014, 02:49:23 PM
You can't watch TV and surf the Web? That's what you get for having cable. Do you not have wireless either? Maybe your phone still has a cord too? Is it rotary?

I didn't look up the exact date either, I just looked up the game story on the site which it turns out was written by someone who gets paid to disseminate information for the college's sports teams. Lo and behold, the information you asked about was there. You could have done this just as easily as I did.

I guess we have differing views on time and history.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on April 14, 2014, 11:09:16 AM
Bishops---Nice to meet you on Saturday. Your son pitched well on Sunday. Good luck the rest of the way. Maybe the teams will meet again in the Conference tournament. Its baseball. Stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 14, 2014, 12:24:10 PM
Wabash and DePauw split again on Sunday.  DPU won game 1 14-11 with a three-run walkoff in the 8th inning (which was apparently an extra inning).  Wabash came from behind to win game 2 5-4 with a three run homer in the 7th by Tyler Owensby.  Game 2, originally scheduled for 9 innings, only went 7 because...well I have no earthly idea.  Presumably because the first game went one extra inning so now that all of a sudden counts as the "long" game of the day?  It's asinine.  Pick a length of game, people.  Just pick one and go with it.  Baseball doubleheaders shouldn't play out like a choose-you-own-adventure book. 

The weekend split makes the West division a three horse race.  Denison (8-2) and DePauw (6-4) still have two to make up at some point.  Wabash (6-2) and Denison have a big four gamer coming up this weekend (Friday/Saturday instead of the usual Saturday/Sunday).  Wabash also hosts OWU in the final division series in a couple of weeks giving Wabash 8 straight games at the Goody to close out the conference season.  Going to be an exciting couple of weekends here to close this thing out. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 14, 2014, 12:44:56 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 14, 2014, 12:24:10 PM
Wabash and DePauw split again on Sunday.  DPU won game 1 14-11 with a three-run walkoff in the 8th inning (which was apparently an extra inning).  Wabash came from behind to win game 2 5-4 with a three run homer in the 7th by Tyler Owensby.  Game 2, originally scheduled for 9 innings, only went 7 because...well I have no earthly idea.  Presumably because the first game went one extra inning so now that all of a sudden counts as the "long" game of the day? It's asinine.  Pick a length of game, people. 

Yep, I think that's the reason. Not disagreeing with your opinion on it.

Most of the 7 inning stuff IMO is a remnant from when Daylight Saving Time extended into April, and so early season games had to be played earlier in the day or the DH shortened or there was a danger of not finishing (which sometimes happened anyway). With DST starting about the time most teams get back from spring trip now, it's not really much of a problem, and conferences should just play 9 inning games.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on April 17, 2014, 11:15:11 AM
Big series in Crawfordsville this weekend between Denison and Wabash. Hope Denison is up for it. Got their tails handed to them yesterday by La Roche. Those guys can swing it.

Good luck to all this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 17, 2014, 02:10:48 PM
Quote from: TexasDad on April 17, 2014, 11:15:11 AM
Big series in Crawfordsville this weekend between Denison and Wabash. Hope Denison is up for it. Got their tails handed to them yesterday by La Roche. Those guys can swing it.

Good luck to all this weekend.

The LGs also dropped their midweek game to RHIT down at the Nehf by a score of 2-0.  0-15 from the top four in the order will get you shut out every now and then. 

Not terribly surprised that Wabash and Denison both had some "meh" midweek games right before a make it or break it conference series.  I'm planning on heading down to the Goody to catch one or both of the games on Saturday.  Those are going to be huge, important games.  Division on the line kinds of games.  Should be fun. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 17, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
Quote from: TexasDad on April 14, 2014, 11:09:16 AM
Bishops---Nice to meet you on Saturday. Your son pitched well on Sunday. Good luck the rest of the way. Maybe the teams will meet again in the Conference tournament. Its baseball. Stranger things have happened.
Thanks, it was nice meeting you as well. I always like meeting people from this board. He started strong but did not quite keep it up. It was good to see your son play as well. He will do well at Denison.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 17, 2014, 03:24:33 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 12, 2014, 10:07:17 PM
Quote from: DP 6-4-3 on April 12, 2014, 08:26:25 PM
Walter,
In four years of watching my son play ball, division games have always been 7 & 9 innings. Tomorrow's games will be 7 & 9 innings.  They schedule a 7 in the event that the first game goes extra innings.  Last weeks games with Wooster were different, both NCAC teams one from the East, one from the West.

The 7 & 9 thing is a recent development (2012). Prior to that it was all 7s. I'd prefer to see the weekend series be three 9 inning games like the rest of civilization.  Grown up baseball games are 9 innings long. We should be doing that.
I would like to see 3 9's as well.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 17, 2014, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 17, 2014, 03:24:33 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 12, 2014, 10:07:17 PM
Quote from: DP 6-4-3 on April 12, 2014, 08:26:25 PM
Walter,
In four years of watching my son play ball, division games have always been 7 & 9 innings. Tomorrow's games will be 7 & 9 innings.  They schedule a 7 in the event that the first game goes extra innings.  Last weeks games with Wooster were different, both NCAC teams one from the East, one from the West.

The 7 & 9 thing is a recent development (2012). Prior to that it was all 7s. I'd prefer to see the weekend series be three 9 inning games like the rest of civilization.  Grown up baseball games are 9 innings long. We should be doing that.
I would like to see 3 9's as well.

Friday-Saturday-Sunday would be ideal because then if you're going to catch a bad weather day, you can adjust and play two one day to work around the weather.  But that'll never happen here and I'm not really sure it should, honestly (the spring sports schedule is already a nightmare on class schedules).    And then it's really, really easy to break ties when teams play three games h2h instead of four.  But that's just me.  The schedule as it is I'm sure is something more or less agreed upon by the ADs and coaches in the league and they're obviously more plugged into the minutiae that drives the decision to squish four games of varying lengths into a weekend, so I'll quit griping about it.  At least until you see a similar rant in 2015. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 17, 2014, 05:00:26 PM
Wally,
I agree. I would love to see a single game on Friday and a DH on Saturday. It may also make scheduling easier for Out of conference games. Some of those could be scheduled on Sunday. I may make scheduling harder though to. Three game series instead of four would mean more open dates to find games for. It would really only add three games to the schedule though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 18, 2014, 09:26:43 AM
http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/index
No updates since 3/31 wonder whats up with the site.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 18, 2014, 10:11:54 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 18, 2014, 09:26:43 AM
http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/index
No updates since 3/31 wonder whats up with the site.

New website (http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/index), BLD!  I'll be honest, I haven't had the time to give it an extensive workout for content, but the updated aesthetics are nice. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 18, 2014, 07:32:06 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 18, 2014, 10:11:54 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 18, 2014, 09:26:43 AM

http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/index
No updates since 3/31 wonder whats up with the site.

New website (http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/index), BLD!  I'll be honest, I haven't had the time to give it an extensive workout for content, but the updated aesthetics are nice.
Thanks Wally.
OWU takes two from Witt.
12-1 and 10-3. If they can sweep, they will have 4th place wrapped up.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on April 18, 2014, 10:56:12 PM
Dension takes 2 from Wabash on Saturday. Both games went extra.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 19, 2014, 08:24:45 PM
OWU splits with Witt today to take 3 this weekend.
Wabash and Denison split.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on April 20, 2014, 11:52:58 AM
Wabash and Denison split on Sunday. Denison takes the series 3-1.

All 4 games were amazing 1 run games with the first two going extra and the last two being decided in the last inning. Two evenly matched and well coached teams.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 21, 2014, 11:30:35 AM
Really good series in C'ville over the weekend.  Definitely wouldn't mind seeing Wabash and Denison square off in Chillicothe with a trip to the tournament on the line. 

But first, West division standings update.
- Denison is out in front of everybody at 11-3 in league play.  They've got just a makeup DH left with DPU on Wednesday.  I think Denison has clinched a spot in the crossover already and can wrap up the division with one win on Wednesday.  DePauw is 6-4 in the league and could win the division if they sweep Wednesday and their weekender with Witt. 
- Wabash's situation has gotten a little messy now.  At 7-5, Wabash can sweep OWU to get to 11-5, which could be good enough to get back up over DPU for second.  A 3-1 weekend means 10-6 and that gets tricky.  I wouldn't count on DePauw doing much worse than 4-2 this week. 

Interesting final week in the West.  Every game is big. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: TexasDad on April 23, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
Denison wins first game today (game 3 of the series) 3-1. Murphy goes the distance to get the W.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 23, 2014, 06:21:19 PM
OWU beating Capital 13-3
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 23, 2014, 06:45:01 PM
OWU wins game vs. Capital. 15-4.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 23, 2014, 10:41:08 PM
In the west, Denison wraps up 1 seed for the crossover. A couple of big games in the east as Wooster and Allegheny face off with the number one seed on the line.
Hiram and Kenyon face off, If Kenyon sweeps they can move into fourth. If Hiram sweeps they move into third and Oberlin moves drops to fourth. Oberlin is done with conference play so they cannot help themselves.

Second third and fourth in the west are still up for grabs. Depauw plays Witt, If they sweep and Wabash loses one they take second. Depauw sweeping Witt would not be a surprise Witt has a staff ERA of 6.47. If Wabash sweeps OWU they take second because, I believe, they own the tiebreaker over Depauw. OWU has an outside shot at second, if they can sweep Wabash and Witt sweeps Depauw. Witt still has a shot to play a meaningful game on the cross over weekend. If they can take three from Depauw and and Wabash can sweep OWU, then Witt takes fourth. OWU has to take two this weekend to guarantee a meaningful spot in the cross over weekend.

Still some meaningful baseball in the NCAC this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 26, 2014, 06:52:58 PM
Wabash and OWU split today.

Game one OWU wins 14 to 8.
Game to goes to Wabash 5-0. J.T miller is a very good pitcher. He goes 9 innings.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 26, 2014, 10:26:31 PM
pretty much every thing is set in the west, except Wabash and Depauw fighting for second,

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 26, 2014, 10:32:45 PM
In the east, The top four are decided, there is still some jockeying for position to be done.

Both Wooster and Gheny have a chance for one.
Hiram still has a chance to tie Oberlin for three but I do not know who owns the tie breaker. I assume it is Oberlin. Oberlin and Hiram split the season. Oberlin has a higher win percentage by one game, If Hiram takes two tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 28, 2014, 08:46:13 AM
Wabash and OWU split this weekend.
OWU 14-8
LG 0-5
OWU 4-1
LG 10-9 (10 innings)

OWU goes to Wooster next weekend for the crossover.
Wabash goes to Gheny
Depauw goes to Oberlin
Denison goes to Hiram.

Kenyon and Witt play each other in the final cross over game.

I see the West having another tough yrear in the crossover series. I would not be surprised to see only one west team in the Tourney.
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Post by: TexasDad on April 28, 2014, 09:46:48 AM
Denison and Depauw host; not travel.

It's baseball. Anything can and often does happen. The Wabash series will be a good one.
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Post by: EttaFan1 on April 28, 2014, 09:57:29 AM
Kudos to Hiram who isn't the laughing stock of baseball for once. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 28, 2014, 10:17:37 AM
Yes it is good to see Hiram out of the cellar.
Your right TexasDad. Denison and Depauw being the top seeds in the west will host. I still think denison and Depauw will win theirs. Wabash vs. Gheny will be interesting. OWU is getting things together.
Oberlin is much improved, over the last two years. I would not be surprised to see them beat Depauw.

Most likely it will be two from the west and two from the east. The only two with no shot are Witt and Kenyon.
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Post by: old scot on April 28, 2014, 12:51:40 PM
Not a big fan of this cross over series. The whole conference season is played for cross over seeding. One bad day can take out a top team and one good day could put a sub standard team in the NCAC tourney, rendering the whole season meaningless. The NCAC needs a better way to identify the top four teams in the conference. I would like to see three game series throughout the conference and the top four make the tourney.

I can't see the NCAC getting more than one bid to the regionals (tourney champ). Woo has several losses to regional teams and no other NCAC team really can make a stand.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 28, 2014, 01:14:58 PM
Old Scott,
I agree, I would love to see them drop from 2 Dh's on the weekend to a 3 game series and do a round robin. They had Round robin for one year, but they still had a DH's on Sat.  against one team and a Dh on Sun against another. Maybe if they dropped it to 3 games schools would be willing to go back to round robin.
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Post by: wally_wabash on April 28, 2014, 01:31:22 PM
Alright, I'm going to need a bit of schooling here.  How does this crossover business work?  Do the winners of the four series this weekend advance to Chillicothe or is there more to it than that? 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 28, 2014, 01:43:08 PM
Results from the season seed the teams.
1 from the east hosts 4 from the west
2 from the east hosts 3 from the west
1 from the west hosts 4 from the east
2 from the west host 3 from the east

These are 3 games series, The team that takes two goes on to the tournament. If one of the teams takes the first two the third game is still played because they are considered regular season games.

The two number 5 teams face off with nothing to win, except the opportunity not to finish last.
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Post by: wally_wabash on April 28, 2014, 01:48:35 PM
So this is, in essence, the start of the league tournament.  But I guess they can't really call it that without having to count the games differently or some such nonsense. 

Follow up question- on the league website, they've already got Wooster playing in Chillicothe.  Have they already qualified for some reason or do we just have some kind of clerical error on the website?
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Post by: wabashsid on April 28, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
Wally,

Wooster is Presto school, as is the NCAC website. If a school enters games on the schedule, it will show up on the NCAC site. If the conference had gone Sidearm rather than Presto, the same thing would happen for Sidearm schools that enter the entire schedule (for example, the schedule on the Wabash site).
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Post by: wally_wabash on April 28, 2014, 02:28:30 PM
Quote from: wabashsid on April 28, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
Wally,

Wooster is Presto school, as is the NCAC website. If a school enters games on the schedule, it will show up on the NCAC site. If the conference had gone Sidearm rather than Presto, the same thing would happen for Sidearm schools that enter the entire schedule (for example, the schedule on the Wabash site).

Gotcha.  Glad to know that Wooster still has to win two this weekend like the rest of us to keep going.   :)
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Post by: Dr. Acula on April 28, 2014, 03:24:38 PM
My initial reaction is that I don't like the crossover series determining who goes to the conference tourney, but without a full round robin schedule I suppose it does potentially resolve inequalities between the relative strength of the east vs. west. 
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Post by: wally_wabash on April 28, 2014, 03:45:57 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on April 28, 2014, 03:24:38 PM
My initial reaction is that I don't like the crossover series determining who goes to the conference tourney, but without a full round robin schedule I suppose it does potentially resolve inequalities between the relative strength of the east vs. west.

Yeah, it's goofy.  Like you're saying, it seems like an attempt to take into account division imbalance, but that only exists because of the goofy division setup in the first place.  Obviously, you fix that by playing a round robin (as noted, preferably three 9 inning games over a weekend like adults) but that means you need 9 weekends to play the league schedule.  Counting backward nine weekends from the conference tournament plants you on the weekend of March 8th.  I think we were still knee deep in snow on March 8.  Or it was 7 degrees outside.  Either way, nobody was playing baseball up here. 

I've thought about this a lot and there's just really not an ideal way to go about this.  The issue at hand as much as anything is that the "spring" sports schedule starts in mid-February and Mother Nature is undefeated all-time against baseball in February in the upper Midwest.  It just isn't feasible to play 27 league games in the amount of non-winter time that we have to play in.  So you split the league in half, pray that it doesn't rain all through April, and decide a champion at a small tournament in May.  That part of it I don't think you can get around.  I think you can get around the silly conditional 7/9 double-doubleheader weekend format. 
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Post by: Dr. Acula on April 28, 2014, 04:48:20 PM
I agree.  The only reason the OAC can do the full round robin with 10 teams is that playing only a single DH against each team allows for mid-week conference DH's.  But with the NCAC even that scenario would be problematic as it brings back the issue of geography/travel time being impacted by the spring weather.  I really don't envy the NCAC administration.  I give them credit for not being afraid to switch stuff up and try to figure out a way that is sensible and fair. 
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Post by: TexasDad on May 02, 2014, 03:15:25 PM
Good luck to all this weekend.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 02, 2014, 03:22:33 PM
I agree with TexasDad. Some players will be playing the last meaningful baseball of their lives. Good luck to all. Especially all seniors in the NCAC.
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Post by: TexasDad on May 05, 2014, 04:59:52 PM
Looks like the seeds held true to form in cross-over. Good luck to the 4 teams that remain with a chance to get to The Dance.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2014, 06:18:11 PM
Good luck to all still in it.
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Post by: EttaFan1 on May 05, 2014, 09:11:48 PM
Curious to know your thoughts about coach Mott. He was a key element to the Marietta staff in 2006. I know he has struggled to have the success he would like to have.  I of course understand if you don't want to say anything publicly, but if you have any thoughts you would like to share I would be interested.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 06, 2014, 10:41:08 PM
NCAC tourney pairings
http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/tournamentcentral

Thursday, May 8

Game 1: Wooster vs. DePauw - 4:00 p.m.
Game 2: Allegheny vs. Denison - 8:00 p.m.

Friday, May 9

Game 3: Winner 1 vs. Winner 2 - 12:00 p.m.
Game 4: Loser 1 vs. Loser 2 - 4:00 p.m.
Game 5: Winner 4 vs. Loser 3 - 7:00 p.m.

Saturday, May 10 OR Sunday May, 11

Game 6: Winner 3 vs. Winner 5 - 1:00 p.m.
Game 7: Same as Game 6 - 30 minutes after Game 6

NOTE: If Allegheny is eliminated on Friday, games six and seven will be played on Saturday. If Allegheny is not eliminated on Friday, games six and seven will be played on Sunday.

Is Allegheny's distance from Chillicothe the reason for having the games on Sunday if they are still in it? I would think they would want to play on Saturday and have the extra time to travel Sunday. Ideas anyone?
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Post by: ADL70 on May 07, 2014, 12:01:09 AM
From Allegheny's website, as I suspected

The Commencement ceremony will be held Saturday, May 10, 2014 at 2:00
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Post by: Spence on May 07, 2014, 12:26:49 AM
That's crazy. Does anyone really want to be in their graduation that much? :) I missed mine for a makeup game at Marietta and it was awesome. Wouldn't have wanted it any other way.
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Post by: Pops33 on May 07, 2014, 10:13:56 AM
Spence, you are right, playing a game is usually much more fun than a graduation ceremony.  However, these are Student-Athletes.  The main reason that they are at the college is for an education (even though not all of the players  may believe that).  The once in a lifetime celebration of their years of academic achievement should take priority over an athletic competition.  The institutions and conferences should take that stance as well.  I am happy to see the NCAC give the students at Allegheny a chance to participate in their graduation instead of making the decision for them that they cannot participate in it.
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Post by: Pops33 on May 07, 2014, 10:16:34 AM
Sorry, the bold font got away from me.  Only Student-Athlete was supposed to be in bold.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 09, 2014, 08:18:51 AM
http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/Tournament/2014

The NCAC tournament is underway.

Denison beats Allegheny 5-3 while Wooster beats Depauw 15-10.

Denison and Wooster meet at Noon today with Depauw and Allegheny at 4:00 PM.

Loser of Wooster/Denison meets Winner of Depauw/Allegheny at 7:00.
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Post by: old scot on May 09, 2014, 04:55:25 PM
Woo is in the drivers seat after laying the wood to the Big Red 16-5 today. 2 games to win one for a tourney bid.

Go Scots!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Spence on May 09, 2014, 05:39:31 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on May 07, 2014, 10:13:56 AM
Spence, you are right, playing a game is usually much more fun than a graduation ceremony.  However, these are Student-Athletes.  The main reason that they are at the college is for an education (even though not all of the players  may believe that).  The once in a lifetime celebration of their years of academic achievement should take priority over an athletic competition.  The institutions and conferences should take that stance as well.  I am happy to see the NCAC give the students at Allegheny a chance to participate in their graduation instead of making the decision for them that they cannot participate in it.

You get the diploma no matter where you happen to be at the time of the graduation ceremony, ya know.

A number of Marietta baseball seniors have graduated at Schaly Stadium, and for most of them I think they'd have preferred it that way over the normal ceremony. Winning the conference championship in front of a throng of home fans on graduation day, then having them cheer again as the president of the college comes out to the field to confer your degree...seems pretty good to me.

I graduated there after running the press box operations and being the PA announcer for the game, then jumped in the cap and gown and went down to the field. Wouldn't want it to have happened any other way. That's what was most special about the time I spent there and the closest connection to the place that I have now.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 10, 2014, 08:19:43 PM
Depuaw takes two in a row from Wooster to get the NCAC bid.
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Post by: countyroad on May 11, 2014, 07:30:53 AM
Congrats to Depauw.

Disappointing season for Wooster in my opinion.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on May 11, 2014, 08:40:01 AM
Based on what they had coming back I'm guessing Coach P would agree with you.
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Post by: Pops33 on May 11, 2014, 09:11:43 AM
Koski (Wooster), who led the NCAC in ERA last year and regularly hits 92-93 mph (according to media guide), went down for the year without pitching an inning.  That really hurt their pitching staff, especially in the NCAC tournament. Too bad for the kid to lose his senior year to injury.  Wooster's offense went dry yesterday, give credit to the DePauw pitching staff.  They scored double digit runs in 10 of their last 11 games coming in to Saturday, but yesterday were held to 5 runs in game one and 2 runs in game two.  Good luck to DePauw in the Regionals.
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Post by: countyroad on May 11, 2014, 09:51:55 AM
Koski's problems were a big blow. Real unfortunate for him and the team.

I just expected more from the offense.

Some years exceed expectations and other fall short. Expectations are always high at Wooster.

Hopefully Depauw can continue their winning ways.
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Post by: TexasDad on May 12, 2014, 04:34:38 PM
Congrats to DePauw on winning the NCAC automatic bid to the Show. They earned the trip to the NCAA as a result of an outstanding weekend of baseball. The bats truly came alive. Carry the NCAC flag, keep swinging the bats and make a long run in the tournament. To the rest of the Conference, good luck with summer ball and let the off-season conditioning begin.  ;D

A shoutout to Denison's two seniors, Connor Murphy and Andrew Touhy for a classy senior season. It was a pleasure to watch and their contributions will be difficult to replace next year.
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Post by: mideastfan2 on May 14, 2014, 02:51:26 PM
CONGRATS DePauw!!!!

They take down #1 seed Webster 2-1 in the opening game of their regional.  I love seeing our Mideast teams get shipped around and do well.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 14, 2014, 03:32:52 PM
That is great.  ;D Glad to see a Mideast team do well. Even more happy that it is an NCAC team. And as a six seed.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 17, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
Depauw srill undefeared. They take on St. Thomas next.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 19, 2014, 09:37:08 AM
Congrats to JArrod Mancine of Wooster for making First team, Ryan Mulligan from Denison, Jake Dunn of Kenyon, and JT Miller of Wabash for Making second team, and Frank Vance of Wooster for making third team All Region:

http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2014/mideast

Always happy to see NCAC players make these lists.
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Post by: TexasDad on July 16, 2014, 12:21:49 PM
Bishopleftiesdad -- Hope the summer is going well for you and your son.

Any idea when and where they will release the Spring NCAC schedule?

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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 16, 2014, 02:31:55 PM
Thanks Texas dad. His season is going well. He is pitching in the Valley league, and was named an All-Star after one pitcher was injured. The only probelm is his stats are incorrect. He was charged with losses that he shouldn't have had. He has gone in relief several times and the team was already losing, gives up no runs and gets the loss.

I hope your son is doing well. I hope he is having a good experience.

The NCAC schedule will not be released until the fall. But the conference portion is pretty easy to depict. Every two years they rotate the order. The last two years we started with Depauw. First year away then next year home. Next spring they will rotate to the back of our schedule and everybody will move up. So our first Game will probably be a home series against your guys. Then Witt, Wabash and finishing at Depauw. I believe the bye week rotates as well. OWU's Bye week will move from week one to week 4.

Different schools release their schedule on their own time line. Last year OWU did not release their until almost the start of the season. if i remember correctly Denison was pretty late with theirs as well.

When they post it, you can find it here.
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Post by: TexasDad on July 22, 2014, 10:53:50 AM
I found the attached on the NCAC website, Who knows if it is still valid:

APPROVED (10/9/13)

2015 NCAC BASEBALL SCHEDULE

Saturday-Sunday, March 28-29
Hiram at Kenyon
Wooster at Allegheny
Wabash at Ohio Wesleyan
DePauw at Wittenberg

Friday-Saturday, April 3-4 (Easter weekend)#
Wooster at Kenyon
Oberlin at Hiram
Wittenberg at Wabash
Denison at DePauw

Saturday-Sunday, April 11-12
Kenyon at Oberlin
Allegheny at Hiram
Ohio Wesleyan at DePauw
Wittenberg at Denison

Saturday-Sunday, April 18-19
DePauw at Wabash
Denison at Ohio Wesleyan
Allegheny at Oberlin
Hiram at Wooster

Saturday-Sunday, 25-26
Kenyon at Allegheny
Oberlin at Wooster
Wabash at Denison
Ohio Wesleyan at Wittenberg

Saturday-Sunday, May 2-3 (Cross-Over weekend)
West 4 at East 1                      (all games 9-innings)
East 4 at West 1
West 3 at East 2
East 3 at West 2
West 5 at East 5

Thursday - Saturday, May 7-9
NCAC Tournament at Chillicothe, Ohio
VA Memorial Stadium
Top-four, double elimination format

# Games on Easter Weekend may be moved to
Sat/Sun by mutual consent
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 25, 2014, 03:00:44 PM
Fall baseball starts soon. Anybody have any Idea on the size of the in-coming Freshman classes? I have an Idea on a few Players coming to OWU. I am really excited about a lefty pitcher from Walsh Jesuit.
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Post by: TexasDad on August 01, 2014, 11:19:21 AM
I'm hearing the Denison has a large class coming in. Maybe between 14-18, from 13 different states. Hear the majority are pitchers with OF, C and other positional players thrown in. Will be interesting to watch. Love the competition that will create.  Also told that the entire coaching staff (including volunteers) returns; which is terrific for the program!
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Post by: Dr. Acula on August 01, 2014, 11:49:19 AM
Continuity is great for the program as it grows.  They're going to be making some noise very soon in the Region.
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Post by: TexasDad on August 08, 2014, 01:12:25 PM
Appears that I spoke to soon. (Not an uncommon trait my wife has told me.)

Was announced last night that Denison Assistant Coach Ryne Romick has accepted a position to be the new pitching coach for the University of Dayton.

Very happy for Ryne as he will excel with the Flyers. A loss for Denison. He is a very good coach and had a good relationship with his players. Big shoes to fill.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 08, 2014, 03:39:26 PM
I am sure Deegan will find the right guy. Their are probably quite a few guys that would like hook up with an up and coming program like Denison.

I know OWU is adding a new coach this year. I do not have any info yet, on what his position will be.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on August 11, 2014, 03:15:50 PM
Any good, young pitching coach would be wise to try to latch on at Denison.  Deegan has been prominently involved first hand as a player and coach with a national championship level program.  You could learn so much working with him thanks to his experience. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 23, 2014, 08:57:43 PM
Son is back on campus as an Orientation Leader. He is a Senior this year. I am hopefull for a good year for his final campaign.
Good luck to all the young men reporting to campus. I hope all have a great fall campaign.
For any freshman parents, enjoy this time and don't anguish over what have no control over. It ends far too quickly.
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Post by: TexasDad on September 11, 2014, 05:16:44 PM
Denison starts Fall Practice Monday. A bunch of freshmen trying out. Lots of pitchers and OF as best one can tell from afar (20ish at last count). Big Red Weekend is at the end of the month, so we will get to see some intrasquad games then. Looking forward to it but no more so than the son who is ready to get back after it.
Good luck to all as the Fall Season gets underway.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 11, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
Tryouts for OWU started Tuesday.  Son says a lot of the new guys are lefty hitters and throwing position players. Sounds like their will be a lot of competition for OF and first base. Going up for the first intrasquad scrimmage saturday. The first few weekendds are not reaaly played like games. Mostly it is hitters seeing live pitching and vice versa for pitchers. I don't expect to see son pitch much until the red and black series. But I am interested to see the new crop of ball players and to see how the players have progressed over the summer.
It is always a good time. Ibget to see some baseball and see parents I have not seen since last spring.
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Post by: Pops33 on September 12, 2014, 11:55:32 AM
Does the NCAA allow the colleges to play each other in the fall?  If so, does anyone know of any games that have been scheduled?
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 12, 2014, 03:09:11 PM
Pops
Schools are allowed one competition with another school once in the Fall. For instance the last two years Marietta and Cortland played a home and away series. Last year was at Cortland. I think it might even allow for several schools to get together at one site and play a round robin, but I am not positive about that.
I am not aware of any schools in the mid east that do it on a regular basis except maybe Marietta. I would go to the OAC board and see if they have any info. I do not see anything on their site.
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Post by: TexasDad on September 12, 2014, 06:57:39 PM
FYI, Denison is scheduled to play Marietta in October.
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Post by: ADL70 on September 13, 2014, 10:41:01 AM
These are considered exhibitions, if I remember correctly.

This raises the question: why can't baseball play a split schedule the way tennis does?

Rather than try to play games in the north in February and early March, September and October would provide better weather.  Keep the number of games and number of weeks of play and practice the same, but have some of those weeks and games in the fall as well as the spring.

Right now CWRU tennis plays in September and then from March thru May.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 13, 2014, 07:27:08 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on September 13, 2014, 10:41:01 AM
These are considered exhibitions, if I remember correctly.

This raises the question: why can't baseball play a split schedule the way tennis does?

Rather than try to play games in the north in February and early March, September and October would provide better weather.  Keep the number of games and number of weeks of play and practice the same, but have some of those weeks and games in the fall as well as the spring.

Right now CWRU tennis plays in September and then from March thru May.
I believe the B1G has suggested this at the D1 level. I am not sure how I feel about it. The fall is about learning your team, and seeing what the new guys can do. Also the Freshman are working on to adjusting to college, not traveling and trying to compete. I know the football players and other fall sports do it.  Your team in the spring might not be the same team you had in the fall. At some of the schools you lose some players to academics after the fall semester.
Would this happen nationally or by conference decision. I am not sure the schools in the south and west would be interested. Would the schools from the cold climates be at a disadvantage, playing only 15 - 20 games in the spring, before starting regionals? You would also lose some of the dual sports athletes.  A player could no longer play football and Baseball.
I don't necessarily disagree with you ADL, there would just be a lot to work out.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 14, 2014, 04:36:21 PM
I was at the first intrasquad yesterday. Son did not pitch, but I did not expect him to. It was nice to see some pitchers comming back from injury. I also was very pleased with yhe freshman pitching. One lefty from Ca. Looked very good. We had another lefty from closer to by, that did very well.
It was good to see the parents from last year, and meet some new people. The scrimmage was run well and we got to see quite a few of the new guys.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 27, 2014, 03:03:58 PM
How is everyones fall going. Looks like OWU's pitching will be deeper this year. Hard to know about the offense.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 13, 2014, 07:11:05 AM
ADL, I learned that Case is not on our schedule this year. Too bad. Good luck to the Sartans this year.
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Post by: ADL70 on October 15, 2014, 07:58:26 AM
I was disappointed to see that as well.

CWRU is scheduled to play Manchester and Heidelberg  in Chilly-cothy in Feb.  Hope we can get those games in.

With NYU coming in the UAA tourney will no longer be double round robin.  Eight games in eight days for the Spartans.

Spartans need to find a SS.

Good luck to the Bishops as well.
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Post by: Jim Dixon on October 15, 2014, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on October 15, 2014, 07:58:26 AM

Spartans need to find a SS.

Good luck to the Bishops as well.

Maybe case will find one in their Xmas stocking.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2014, 09:31:57 AM
Speaking of finding players in Christmas stockings, I was told we have another 2 Freshman coming in that were not able to enroll in Fall semester but will be enrolling in Spring.

I know it does not happen very often at OWU, this is the first time in the four years my son has been at school. I know that Gronski at Case did this. He was a walk on at A D1, After Fall ball at the D1 he went to some camps and caught on at Case. That was a great catch for them. It used to happen more often at OWU. Ingles would find or D1 drop downs would find his program.

How often does this happen this happen in other programs? How many are D1 drop downs, how many were just unable to enroll in the Fall?

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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2014, 09:40:39 AM
OWU sent out a copy of their schedule. This is apt to change but here are the teams we have scheduled.

HCAC team Transylvania 2x9 DH

Capital 2x
Wilmington
Otterbein
JCU
BW
Berg
Ohio Christian NCCAA
Berg
Ohio Dominican (d2)
Musky
Marietta
ONU

Schedule is definitely OAC heavy. Only school missing are Mount.

They are going back to Port Charlotte to play in the Snowbird classic again.


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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2014, 09:55:54 AM
Big Red has posted their schedule:

http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/schedule

They are playing some good competition again, pretty strong schedule. It looks like they are playing some early games down in Marietta. Must be several teams coming that weekend to Schaly Stadium to play a weekend series.

They are starting pretty early Feb 27, in New Concord. That has real potential to be a cold one.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2014, 10:11:53 AM
Depauw also has their schedule out.

http://depauwtigers.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/schedule

Srong HCAC flavor early on. It looks like they are going to Atlanta for a few days. They play some very good competition while there. Emory went did well last year, went to the CWS. Piedmont is always good.
Another strong schedule for the NCAC.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2014, 10:19:47 AM
Looks like Wabash has a schedule up.

http://sports.wabash.edu/schedule.aspx?schedule=56&path=baseball

Another trip to Hendrix in Arkansas.
They are taking there first trip to Florida in a long time. They will also be in Port Charlotte for the Snowbird Classic. 

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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2014, 10:28:31 AM
Witts schedule.

http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/schedule

They play a 27 game winner NCC. They also play Case and Thomas More.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2014, 10:38:29 AM
The Gators 2015 schedule:
http://alleghenygators.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

The schedule includes some tough opponents in John Carroll, Case Western.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2014, 10:43:29 AM
And the last schedule I found posted was for Hiram:

http://www.hiramterriers.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/schedule

Out of conference they play John Carroll, and Baldwin Wallace and Mount Union. All good teams. I do not know enough about the other teams on the schedule to comment.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2014, 10:47:51 AM
Still waiting for Wooster, Kenyon,Oberlin And OWU to post theirs.

Anybody have any insight on the strength of these schedules. I think Denison's is strong enough for a pool C bid if they do well and go far enough in the NCAC tourney. I am not sure anybody elses is strong enough to earn a pool C unless they get a 30+ win season
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 16, 2014, 10:04:51 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on October 16, 2014, 09:40:39 AM
OWU sent out a copy of their schedule. This is apt to change but here are the teams we have scheduled.

HCAC team Transylvania 2x9 DH

Capital 2x
Wilmington
Otterbein
JCU
BW
Berg
Ohio Christian NCCAA
Berg
Ohio Dominican (d2)
Musky
Marietta
ONU

Schedule is definitely OAC heavy. Only school missing are Mount.

They are going back to Port Charlotte to play in the Snowbird classic again.

Mount usually sticks to close by teams for non conference.  That's why it's usually limited to western PA schools, Hiram and the closest...D2 Walsh Univ. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 17, 2014, 07:11:42 AM
Where does Mount Union usually go for their spring trip?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 17, 2014, 08:04:45 AM
Winter Haven/Chain of Lakes.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on November 19, 2014, 09:54:49 AM
Oberlin has posted their schedule:

http://www.goyeo.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on November 19, 2014, 09:56:14 AM
OWU has posted their schedule:

http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 19, 2014, 08:09:04 PM
Thanks Pops, it is about what I expected. I am not sure how strong Transy is, but I am familiar with the others. A couple of strong schools in JC and BW.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on November 20, 2014, 09:51:21 AM
The Florida schedule is not out yet but several are going to be in Port Charlotte - here is a link to the teams that will be participating in the "Snowbird Classic". 

http://snowbirdbaseball.info/tournament-info/2015-participating-teams/

Four NCAC teams - OWU, Denison, Wooster and Wabash - as well as 5 OAC teams and some other top notch schools will be there.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 20, 2014, 10:17:14 AM
Unfortunately I will not be making the trip this spring. I have gone in the past and enjoyed it very much. OWU went to Myrtle Beach last year. While it was a nice facility. I did not think much of the competition. I am glad they are going back to port Charlotte.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 27, 2014, 01:30:53 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to all my friends on this site. Enjoy your sons while they are home. Spring will be here before you know it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 11, 2014, 01:24:29 PM
OWU 2015 roster is up.

http://www.battlingbishops.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

11 Freshman
7 Soph's
13 Juniors
5 Seniors, Mostly pitchers, (3 and a 1b/Pitcher)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on December 12, 2014, 07:19:44 PM
Zullo is a nice get for OWU.  Kid was a really good pitcher at an excellent DI high school program at Hudson.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 12, 2014, 08:47:50 PM
Yes, I watched him this fall. Nice big guy, nice fast ball in the low to mid 80's. There is quite abit more velocity in that frame. He will slot right into the weekend rotation. The lefty from California looked good as well, Faley, will probably get some week day starts and relieve on the weekends.  I really like the pitching on this team. There is some depth that we have not had in a while.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 20, 2014, 05:53:29 PM
http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball
full schedule is out for OWU. In Florida we are playing two teams we have not seen before, Morovian and Hampden-Sydney.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 24, 2014, 10:00:31 PM
Merry Christmas. I hope all enjoy having their sons home as much as I do. The season will be here soon.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 16, 2015, 12:50:54 PM
The season is almost upon us, Young men are heading back to school and their first practices. Here is the starting dates for all the teams in the NCAC.

DateTeamsLocation
21-FebAllegheny vs John CarrollBeckly , wva.
21-FebWabash vs. HendrixConway Ark
27-FebDenison Vs MuskingumMuskingum
28-FebDepauw vs. AndesonWestfield, Indiana
28-FebWooster vs. Mount AloysiusWooster
1-MarKenyon vs.MASSACHUSETTS MARITIME ACADEMY (DH)Fort Pierce Fla.
1-MarOhio Wesleyan vs. TransylvaniaLexington Kentucky
8-MarHiram vs. RockfordFort Myers, Fla
8-MarWittenberg vs. Pitt-GreenburgRussMatt
14-MarOberlin vs. EarlhamRichmond indiana
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 16, 2015, 12:55:16 PM
Looks like the Gators have the toughest first game.
Wabash has the second.
Unless one of the opponents I failed to mention is tougher. Possibly Anderson.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 16, 2015, 03:06:37 PM
Some Professional Baseball news about a former Gator. RHP Kyle Davis has signed to play with the Lumberjacks of the Mount Rainier Professional Baseball league. Kyle spent last summer with Raton Osos of the Pecos league.

http://mrpbl.pointstreaksites.com/view/mrpbl/news-1672/news_263848

http://alleghenygators.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=3860
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 19, 2015, 12:16:29 PM
Pecos League...  Wow! Those are road trips.  636 miles from Alpine TX (home of ASC member Sul Ross State Univ) to Garden City KS.

I love that part of the country.  The dominant features of that topography are horizon and stars!  You can see El Capitan, between Raton and Trinidad and along the Santa Fe Trail, from 100 miles away.  There is very little "light pollution".
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 21, 2015, 08:16:24 AM
http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2015/2015-week-0
no NCAC in the top 25.
I can understand, with the numbers Wooster lost. I was hopung someone would end up in ORV.
OWU plays Moravian in Florida, the are in the ORV. Win games and get to the regional.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on January 21, 2015, 04:13:09 PM
Wooster posted their 2014-2015 roster. I did not see Nick Buckingham listed. He had a pretty good freshman season last year on the mound.  ???
2015 Roster - http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/roster


2015 Schedule - http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/schedule
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 21, 2015, 04:34:40 PM
Perhaps Nick wanted to hit again? He played legion ball this past summer. Here is an article about one of his games.

http://www.the-daily-record.com/local%20sports/2014/07/02/buckingham-s-blast-helps-wc-legion-tie-coshocton
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on January 22, 2015, 07:59:32 AM
I was aware of his hitting exploits last summer as part of the legion team's run to a state title. I don't believe coach P would've absolutely refused to allow Nick to hit. We know coach likes to coach hitting.  ;D
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 22, 2015, 09:23:52 AM
Plus with the senior heavy line up from last year, their may not have been room. With what little I read and what I know of Coach P, I have to believe he would have been given an opportunity in the Fall to prove he could hit.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on January 22, 2015, 04:06:00 PM
I didn't notice this yesterday, but Frank Gamble is listed as an assistant coach. Coach Gamble spent many years at Massillon Perry as the varsity coach and was recently head of baseball operations at Furman. He is very well respected across the state. A couple other new names are listed as coaches as well. Dan Wyand (roster has his name spelled wrong) was an assistant for a number of years but for some reason I don't think he was on the staff last year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 22, 2015, 04:17:07 PM
Quite a list of assistant's. Craddock has been there fir what seems forever. 6 assistants, most are probably unpaid.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 24, 2015, 06:18:42 PM
I would imagine Craddock is the coach-in-waiting.  He's already proved he can win as a HC and he's a Wooster guy.

Gamble is a good addition.  Reminds me of when Mount had the legendary Joe Gilhousen as an assistant.  There's no substitute for the years of experience guys like that bring.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 09, 2015, 03:28:21 PM
Wabash's pitching is going to be interesting this year. Looks like they are losing 173.1 innings out of 331.1. The biggest loss will be JT miller with 76 innings and 2.01 era. Of the pitchers left on the roster, they only have 84.2 innings pitched. The most being 18.2 by Jensen Kirch. The best ERA of the returners. with more than a few innings is 3.94.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 09, 2015, 03:58:34 PM
I am looking at Witt's Roster and it is pretty small. If Accurate it has 28 players. The Pitching staff has 12 players, of those 6 are also position players.
3 Sr
3 Jr
2 So
4 Fr
Tyler Powell who was a Freshman last year is not back He had the second most innings pitched. Hitt, Burgher, Haley and Black are all back.

http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/roster


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 09, 2015, 04:27:55 PM
Hopefully Pitching depth will not be a problem for OWU, Out of 37 Players 18 are listed as Pitchers. Of those 12 are PO. They lose one pitcher that had meaningful innings. Only problem is that he was was the best performing pitcher last year, Greg Hock.
4 Sr two will probably be Conference game starters. 1 Weekday starter and one relief.
4 Jr, One a Conference starter and another possible week day starter (hard to say he is coming back from a surgery), An unknown (transfer), and a pitcher who has quite a few relief innings.
2 So, Both relievers.
8 Fr, One conference starter (my Guess) 2, weekday starters and relievers. A closer, and several unknowns.

There are going to be battling for innings. it should make for some good competition and Mott will have some options.





Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 09, 2015, 05:06:12 PM
One more thing this afternoon. With the new Ball I am interested in seeing how the diamonds in the NCAC give up HR. I know in the past left field at Littick was considered a launching pad. With the prevailing winds and the types of Hitters Ingles recruited lots of balls went over Left Field. Wooster should have even more HR this year. Every time I have been at Murray field the wind is blowing out. If that is usually the case more balls will be flying out this year than last.

Looking at Split stats for last year they hit 26 at home 3 away and 15 at neutral sites. Those numbers are going to go up.
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Post by: Pops33 on February 10, 2015, 01:54:55 PM
Wow that is quite a disparity....Looking at the Wooster split stats some more, they played only 6 games that were considered to be away (on the opponents' home field), 23 neutral site games and 15 homes games.  So the HR per game ratios are:

Home 26 HR / 15 games = 1.733 HR per game
Away
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 10, 2015, 02:00:42 PM
Sorry, trouble with my ancient computer:
Wooster's HR ratio per game:

Home   26/15 = 1.733 per game
Away   3/6 = 0.5 HR per game
Neutral  15/23 = 0.65 HR per game

Apparently Pettorini is building his teams to take advantage of their home field conditions!!

I would like to see the split on HR given up by the Wooster pitchers home versus away to see if the ratios are dramatically increased at Art Murray Field.  My guess is yes.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on February 10, 2015, 03:01:52 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 09, 2015, 05:06:12 PM
One more thing this afternoon. With the new Ball I am interested in seeing how the diamonds in the NCAC give up HR. I know in the past left field at Littick was considered a launching pad. With the prevailing winds and the types of Hitters Ingles recruited lots of balls went over Left Field. Wooster should have even more HR this year. Every time I have been at Murray field the wind is blowing out. If that is usually the case more balls will be flying out this year than last.

Looking at Split stats for last year they hit 26 at home 3 away and 15 at neutral sites. Those numbers are going to go up.

So I guess the NCAC is going to the new "flatter seam" balls this year, correct?  I wonder if the OAC is doing the same.  I'm torn on how I feel about this issue.  18 days until we find out (supposedly).
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 10, 2015, 03:51:22 PM
Yes they are. I imagine most conferences are. Most schools used it some in the Fall I believe. OWU did not use it till almost the end of Fall. I am a pitchers Dad and I have waffled. My son though does not seem to mind. He has used this Ball over the summers and has been pretty successful.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 10, 2015, 03:55:15 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on February 10, 2015, 02:00:42 PM
Sorry, trouble with my ancient computer:
Wooster's HR ratio per game:

Home   26/15 = 1.733 per game
Away   3/6 = 0.5 HR per game
Neutral  15/23 = 0.65 HR per game

Apparently Pettorini is building his teams to take advantage of their home field conditions!!

I would like to see the split on HR given up by the Wooster pitchers home versus away to see if the ratios are dramatically increased at Art Murray Field.  My guess is yes.
Oh I am sure he is. They get some decent loft on the ball.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on February 13, 2015, 01:51:51 PM
Was the ball change not adopted at all levels of the NCAA?  It seems kind of silly to have different equipment in different divisions. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 13, 2015, 02:01:54 PM
Wally, originally it was just D1. But it has trickled down to all divisions. The new ball will be used in the regionals and CWS. Each conference was allowed to choose to adopt the new ball for the regular season. According to players I have talked to the NCAC will be using the new ball. OWU, started using the ball last fall during the non traditional  season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 17, 2015, 04:02:02 PM
NCAC games already getting cancelled due to weather.

Wabash cancels games against Muskingum and Marietta due to weather:

http://sports.wabash.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

Musky was set for 2/28 and Marietta was on 3/1.

Since Wabash is not the home team it was probably Musky and Marietta canceling,
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Post by: MC Pioneer Fan on February 18, 2015, 07:15:49 AM
with the weather so cold and snowy, and even if it turns warm today, Coach Brewer said the field would not ready to play on at Marietta :( hopefully they will pick up some games in Fla in early March
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 18, 2015, 09:43:08 AM
Thanks MC,
Wabash will face Marietta in Port Charlotte. Wabash has gone to the west coast for their spring trip, but this will be their first trip to Florida that I am aware of. OWu is slated to play in Louisville  Lexington against Transy on 3-1.
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Post by: ADL70 on February 18, 2015, 10:38:58 AM
Did you mean Lexington?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 18, 2015, 10:47:42 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on February 18, 2015, 10:38:58 AM
Did you mean Lexington?
Yes, I updated, thanks for catching that.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on February 18, 2015, 03:17:29 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 18, 2015, 10:47:42 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on February 18, 2015, 10:38:58 AM
Did you mean Lexington?
Yes, I updated, thanks for catching that.

When you come to the fork...go left.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ncacfantasy on February 20, 2015, 12:29:51 PM
Good afternoon. Had a question for the boards: If you were to create a fantasy baseball league using only players from the NCAC, who would be the top 15 players on the board? Looking for a variety of opinions
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 20, 2015, 03:16:17 PM
How many pitchers, position players etc?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ncacfantasy on February 20, 2015, 03:33:23 PM
How about top 15 for each (15 pitchers, 15 position players)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 20, 2015, 04:57:39 PM
Mid east preview is out. In the NCAC they have Wooster at the top of the conference again. I think Wooster lost too much. I really think a west team will take it all again this year, Denison or Depauw are the best bets. If any team is the east is going to win it I would bet on the Gators.
http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2015/01/2015-previews/mideast-region-preview-2015
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCACeaster on February 20, 2015, 11:17:48 PM
Here's my take on the East. Let me know what you think.

Wooster is a team with a lot to prove.  Besides Vance, they have a lot of open spots to fill, I'm sure they have some guys looking to fill roles who can swing it.  I dont think they have a true ace-like pitcher, but neither does any team on the East that I can think of with conference pitchers like Davis, Hagen, and McDonald having all graduated.

Davis and Pezzone should be big losses for Gheny. Those were two play-makers, but they are a team that seems to grind out wins.  They return a couple of pretty good infielders and should be okay on the mound.

Kenyon had some young pitching with some decent velocity, but simply were not developed pitchers.  They were young in many spots last year and should be a much better team with another year of experience.

Oberlin was written off as a team that will rely on young talent according to the mideast preview.  Although, if their roster is correct they are returning 6 senior every day starters and have only lost one bat from their lineup.

Hiram hasn't lost much besides Calhoun and one infielder. It looks like they will be returning their whole pitching staff.  Should be a pretty good team again.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 24, 2015, 11:09:09 AM
Welcome to the board Easter.
I do not think that Wooster ever has the most to prove. They may have the most to replace, but have proven over time that they are the consistent front runner in the east.  There Pitching staff will be very young. Only Senior returning is Danny Reese, but he only pitched 15.2 innings last year,Nick Buckingham pitched the most out of the returners, and his ERA was sub 4. We will see if they can reload.

You are right Gheny always finds a way to grind things out. Baseball at Gheny is still very good. The other men's sport, Football and basketball, have been pretty bad lately. What ever issues the other teams have had in recruiting it has not seemed to effect the Gators much.

For Kenyon Mike Jeffers, Tim Krahn and Josh Jacobvitz will anchor the rotation. Jeffers is coming of of an injury but he should be ready to go. Jeffers has pitched very well against Wooster in the past. I do not know much about the rest of their rotation or position players

As a whole I felt the East was stronger than the West last year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCACfan22 on February 25, 2015, 09:27:46 AM
@Bishopleftiesdad

Just wanted to note that Nick Buckingham is NOT on the Wooster roster and will not be pitching for them this year. It is worth noting that Wooster got Anthony Malky, a D1 right handed transfer from Akron (http://triblive.com/sports/college/district/6385662-74/malky-coach-division#axzz3SlbStDK6). I disagree with you, however, that Wooster doesn't have anything to prove. It looks like their staff will be Malky, Whitaker, Woullard, and Schlueter. Besides Woullard (who didn't pitch particularly well in a starting role), none of these guys have started any meaningful games in their college careers.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2015, 10:05:56 AM
I understand NCACFan, I am talking form a Historic perspective. Yes they will have a lot of new players seeing action this year. But Pettorini and Craddock have shown that they can recruit. While they do have down years, they are more of a reload than a rebuild team.

And believe me being a OWU fan, I wish that was not the case.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2015, 10:44:37 AM
Wooster's roster is also pretty well balanced between the classes, Except for Seniors.
4 Seniors
9 Juniors
10 Sophomores
8 Freshman

With all the losses last yer I really expected the Sophomore or Freshman class to be bigger. This leads me to a question for Wooster supporters. Is 31 a typical roster size for Wooster?

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 25, 2015, 12:54:25 PM
I don't know about Wooster specifically, but that seems like a small roster for D3 in general to me.  Outside of Wilmington I don't think I've seen anyone with fewer kids the last few years.  I'd say most teams are in the 40's in terms of roster size.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 25, 2015, 12:58:44 PM
Do any of the NCAC schools historically carry large rosters?  In the OAC I know Mount has 64 kids this spring including 24 freshmen.  BW always has a large team.  Otterbein usually does as well.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on February 25, 2015, 01:00:23 PM
Quote from: NCACfan22 on February 25, 2015, 09:27:46 AM
@Bishopleftiesdad

Just wanted to note that Nick Buckingham is NOT on the Wooster roster and will not be pitching for them this year. It is worth noting that Wooster got Anthony Malky, a D1 right handed transfer from Akron (http://triblive.com/sports/college/district/6385662-74/malky-coach-division#axzz3SlbStDK6). I disagree with you, however, that Wooster doesn't have anything to prove. It looks like their staff will be Malky, Whitaker, Woullard, and Schlueter. Besides Woullard (who didn't pitch particularly well in a starting role), none of these guys have started any meaningful games in their college careers.

We noted a while back that Nick was not on the roster. I kept hoping he would be added at some point though. Do you know if Nick is in school at Wooster? Will he be playing elsewhere? I'm not asking for personal details, just wondering if he's done at Wooster.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2015, 02:27:37 PM
NCAC preseason Poll is out.
Wooster picked for first again.
http://www.battlingbishops.com/custompages/files/ba/2015/2015BaseballPoll.pdf

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2015, 02:34:34 PM
Doctor,
I believe most NCAC teams are in the Thirties or forties. Every once in a while at team will break into the 50's but not that often. OWU was in the low 50's when this years Jr. class were freshman.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2015, 02:53:27 PM
OWU's game with Transy has been moved to Florence Freedom's Turf field, UC Health Stadium.

http://www.ballparkreviews.com/template2.php?in_name=UC%20Health%20Stadium&in_city=Florence&in_state=Kentucky

Downside, No shelled peanuts.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on February 25, 2015, 09:54:58 PM
Wish CWRU had been that creative in finding a place to play this weekend games with Heidelberg and Manchester.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 26, 2015, 09:29:55 AM
I think we have to thanks Transylvania for this one. Good thing is the trip ois about an hour shorter than going all the way to Lexington. UC health Stadium's field is very similar to Chillicothe's field in that even the mound is turf.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on February 26, 2015, 01:10:44 PM
Looks like even that isn't going to work.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 26, 2015, 01:13:37 PM
yup, it has been cancelled. They are now trying to reschedule their games with Cap and Wilmington to a DH on Weds at the AIA fields in Xenia.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 26, 2015, 02:19:25 PM
None of the NCAC teams have been able to start their season, those teams that had games scheduled already, have all been cancelled or postponed.
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Post by: countyroad on February 27, 2015, 08:17:45 AM
Wooster posted their "season outlook" yesterday.

http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/releases/20150226wm45o0

There are a ton of question marks for this team. I don't know the rest of the NCAC well at all, but I'm surprised the Scots have been picked to win it.

I'm darn glad we're talking about baseball more. It has to warm up right.....right....?  :-\
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 27, 2015, 08:55:49 AM
I am hoping some NCAC teams get some games in before Florida/Arizona. As mentioned earlier OWU is trying to rearrange the games against Cap and Wilmington to Weds in Xenia at Grady field. They also picked up two additional games in Florida, I do not know the teams yet. But that will make 8 games in 6 days. Plenty of guys should pitch innings.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 27, 2015, 12:15:51 PM
It looks like Ohio Wesleyan picked up a game against St. John Fisher College.
http://snowbirdbaseball.info/tournament-info/1857-2/

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Post by: mideastfan2 on February 27, 2015, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 27, 2015, 08:55:49 AM
I am hoping some NCAC teams get some games in before Florida/Arizona. As mentioned earlier OWU is trying to rearrange the games against Cap and Wilmington to Weds in Xenia at Grady field. They also picked up two additional games in Florida, I do not know the teams yet. But that will make 8 games in 6 days. Plenty of guys should pitch innings.

That many games is a great way to see what guys can do.  Plenty of guys should get opportunities.

Back when I was in school we played 16 games in 9 days on our Spring Trip every year. It was truly a spring training before heading back north.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2015, 10:10:34 AM
OWU picked up anther game in Florida, They will be playing Brockport state for their get away game.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2015, 08:45:33 AM
Bishops Preview has been published on OWU's website.

http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2015/3/2/BA_2015pre_2.aspx

There are a couple of Surprises for me but nothing really earth shattering.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2015, 09:07:14 AM
Well one team in the NCAC is getting games in at least. Kenyon has started their two weeks in Florida. 3-1

Opponent      Result  ScoreGame Recap
Mass-MaritimeW3-1http://athletics.kenyon.edu/news/2015/3/2/BASE_0302151130.aspx?path=baseball
Mass-MaritimeW10-3http://athletics.kenyon.edu/news/2015/3/2/BASE_0302151130.aspx?path=baseball
SusquehannaL1-6http://athletics.kenyon.edu/news/2015/3/2/BASE_0302151440.aspx?path=baseball
WilkesW8-3http://athletics.kenyon.edu/news/2015/3/2/BASE_0302151440.aspx?path=baseball

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Post by: NCACfan22 on March 03, 2015, 12:29:06 PM
Worth noting that Oberlin will be playing 14 games in 7 days this year on their spring trip in Arizona (they are also the only NCAC squad that heads to Arizona)...easily the most daunting spring trip in the NCAC
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2015, 01:56:25 PM
NCACFan,
Do you mean most daunting in logistics as in travel an number of games played or in quality of teams played?

DH's are nothing new for Oberlin. They get all there nonconference game done in Arizona, When they come back they only play conference games on the weekends. They have no midweek games once they come back.

Looking at the talent of teams played over spring break I would have to give that to one of the other schools.

OWU: very tough spring break schedule.
St. Jon fisher who was 31-7 last year. They play them the day OWU arrives in Florida with no practices played outside.
Morovian, 32-12 in the Landmark and a regional qualifier.
Hampden-Sydney, 27-17 and middle of the pack in the ODAC.
Baldwin Wallace who went to the CWS last year
Marietta, no more needs to be said
Brockport state, 25-14 and second in the SUNYAC.

Denison: Not as strong as last year but still pretty strong.
Wash and Jeff, perennial top team in the PAC
Farmingdale state 27-13 and in the Skyline conference
Hiedelberg
Manchester

Depauw:
No real spring break trip but they play
Emory, predicted number 2 in the country.
Manchester, always a very good HCAC team, They have made good runs in the regional's lately.
Piedmont
Hendrix.

Wabash: First trip to the snowbird classic that I am aware of.
Marietta ( not on the trip but right before they leave)
Adrian Consistent MIAA favorite
Hampden Sydney
Hiedelberg
Baldwin Wallace
Marietta twice
and finish up with Farmingdale.

Witt:
No one of consequence

Wooster:
Manchester
Farmingdale

Allegheny:
Wash and Jeff
Benedictine

Oberlin:
Looking at the schedule I do not see any Barn burners. There are some decent teams but not a very strong SOS.

Kenyon:
Misericordia: 31-15 last year and regular winner of the Freedom division in the MAC.
LaRoche, regular winner of Allegheny conference.

Hiram:
Gettysburg College 33-8
Agustana

In my Opinion OWU has the toughest spring break games. Admittedly, St John Fisher and Brockport were not on the schedule until we had games  cancelled against Transy.






Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2015, 11:20:57 AM
OWU's games in Xenia have been cancelled. They now will not get any games in until they head to Florida.
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Post by: Pops33 on March 07, 2015, 08:23:15 AM
Good luck and safe travels to all those teams and families heading to warmer weather to finally get some baseball in!
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2015, 11:41:20 AM
Son is on a bus now heading south. First game tomorrow at 5 pm.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 08, 2015, 07:24:39 PM
OWU wins their first game of the season, 5-3 against St. John Fisher of the Empire 8.
I don't have the box score yet. It is good to start the season with a win.

On to Musky tomorrow.
http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2015/3/8/BA_03082015.aspx

Edit: added link.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 08, 2015, 08:16:06 PM
Depauw loses two to Manchester 4-11 and 3-10.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 08, 2015, 08:21:08 PM
Wabash loses to Anderson 3-4.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 08, 2015, 08:23:27 PM
Witt loses to Pitt-Greensberg 4-16.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 08, 2015, 08:31:00 PM
Kenyon has extended their record to 7-2. With wins over Wilkes, Immaculata, and Westminster.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 08, 2015, 08:33:46 PM
Hiram has a win against Emerson and a loss to Rockford.
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Post by: countyroad on March 09, 2015, 09:25:22 AM
Wooster gets their season started today @ noon against North Park. North Park is 2-2. I don't know much about North Park. They went 23-18 last year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 09, 2015, 10:11:46 AM
Since 2010 they have consistently been close to the top of the CCIW. Finishing no lower than 3 and finishing no. 1 in 2012. They sent a lot of literature to my son during recruiting. The coach called several times and tried to get him to come up for a visit. But North Park seems to be a pretty closely tied with The Evangelical Covenant Church. Considering that we are pretty heavily Catholic and he was not interested in going to a school with religious components, he declined the visit. 
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Post by: countyroad on March 09, 2015, 10:41:01 AM
I noticed they had some good seasons not long ago. I just never heard of them and had to look em up. I was happy to see they've had some fairly recent success. Sometimes these spring trips are loaded with cupcakes, which I can understand to an extent.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 09, 2015, 02:33:38 PM
Wabash is currently beating Hampden Sydney 4-0. Top of 5. Wabash is the Home team.
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Post by: countyroad on March 10, 2015, 10:54:11 AM
Wooster won 6-4 in their opener with North Park. Wooster had to rally in the later innings. They were out hit 10-5 but made their hits count.

Freshman Nanak Saran got the save giving up 2 hits and 1 run. That had to be some pressure...

Wooster was on the receiving end of 3 HBP.  ;D

Wooster takes on Pitt-Bradford today at noon. PB lost their opener 8-9 yesterday.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 11, 2015, 08:17:59 AM
Wooster beat Pitt-Bradford 10-3 yesterday and is now 2-0. No box score is available yet.
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Post by: Schwami on March 11, 2015, 10:19:22 PM
Walk-off grand slam for Clint Scarborough in the 11th inning --- Wabash beats #16 Marietta 15-13!

In the night game, Baldwin-Wallace beats Wabash 11-10 with a walkoff single in the bottom of the 9th.

Crazy day indeed for the LG's.
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Post by: countyroad on March 12, 2015, 08:35:39 AM
Wow. That is indeed a wild day.
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Post by: wally_wabash on March 12, 2015, 08:41:10 AM
Yeah, Wabash kind of let that B-W game go which was disappointing, but overall a split with those two teams isn't a bad day.  Wabash gets another crack at Marietta tomorrow. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 17, 2015, 08:24:03 AM
Wooster suffered its first defeat of the spring yesterday 9-6 to Manchester. Their records stands at 7-1. No box score was yet posted.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 17, 2015, 08:38:04 AM
It's very odd to me that a 7-0 Wooster squad didn't receive any top 25 votes.  I'd normally expect a traditionally strong program like them to be ranked at 7-0, but at the very least receive votes.
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Post by: countyroad on March 17, 2015, 11:55:34 AM
I was a bit surprised as well, but didn't really care. All they have to do is keep winning I suppose...
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 18, 2015, 06:42:34 PM
Quote from: countyroad on March 17, 2015, 11:55:34 AM
I was a bit surprised as well, but didn't really care. All they have to do is keep winning I suppose...
great attitude Country. Just win baby.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 18, 2015, 06:43:29 PM
OWU beats Capital 12 - 2. Zullo has done very well so far this year.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 19, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
OWU scheduled to play Ott this afternoon.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 19, 2015, 09:02:40 PM
OWU beats Otterbein 14-5. Ott came into the game 11-1.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 20, 2015, 10:46:35 PM
It is good to have A. Caputo, behind the plate again. Most of last year he was DH and 1st.  He started his first game at catcher and did very well.
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Post by: Pops33 on March 21, 2015, 08:06:34 AM
League play starts next weekend.  It's interesting to note that the top two teams by win percentage in both the East and the West will play each other next weekend. OWU and Wabash have collectively secured some nice wins, including OAC teams Marietta and Otterbein (11-2 record).  Allegheny and Wooster have better overall records, but I believe that OWU and Wabash played tougher schedules down South.  It's a little early to say that the series will determine who will be in the drivers seat as far as the division goes, but it will definitely be a factor.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on March 24, 2015, 01:11:58 PM
Wooster completed their spring trip with a record of 10-1 and received 14 votes in this week's top 25. I can't tell how good they are. Only one spring trip opponent (Manchester) received any top 25 votes and Wooster lost 9-6 to them. While their opponents may not have been top caliber, at least Wooster won the games so I can't take anything away from them.

Wooster is getting good contributions from some young guys.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 25, 2015, 12:25:25 PM
OWU vs. Baldwin Wallace still on as of now. Scheduled at Littick field @ 4:00 Pm. Saturday Wabash comes into town for the opening of conference play.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 25, 2015, 09:06:10 PM
OWU beats Baldwin Wallace 8-4. OWU used 4 pitchers to seal the win. will Cline pitched 3 followed by Brett Kaiser, who pitched 2. JJ Buckey pitched two, followed by Charles Cooper and Kevin Zull who pitched one a piece.
OWU hit two Solo Home runs, one from Devin Van Winkle and one from Trey Gluth.
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Post by: countyroad on March 26, 2015, 10:20:02 AM
Wooster won against Muskingum yesterday 16-4 and now stands at 11-1 on the season. Wooster sophomore Lackner belted 3 homers. Thanks for supporting my comment about "contributions from young guys."  ;D

Wooster travels to Allegheny this weekend for their NCAC opener.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 26, 2015, 11:19:46 AM
Good Job by Wooster. Doesn't look like Wooster has missed a beat after graduating all those Seniors last year.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 27, 2015, 11:45:40 AM
Many of the NCAC games for this weekend are being moved or Postponed.

OWU/Wabash has been moved from DH's on Saturday and Sunday to Sunday and Monday Afternoon.
Wooster/Allegheny , shows Saturday postponed but does not show any makeups. This has bit Allegheny in the past. Where Wooster declined to make the game up at the end of the season and may have cost the Gators a shot at the tournament.
Denison/Case Western, this Out of Conference game still shows the HD on Denison's Schedule.
Kenyon/Hiram has been moved from a Saturday/Sunday DH's to Sunday/Monday.
Wittenberg/Depauw has been moved from a Saturday/Sunday DH's to Sunday/Monday.
Oberlin looks to be traveling back after their spring trip to Arizona. They play Grace today and do not have another game scheduled until April third with Hiram.

So it looks like all conference games have been rescheduled except Wooster/Alleheny.


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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 27, 2015, 11:51:01 AM
I have to say I really love the new caps OWU are wearing this year.

http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2015/3/27/BA_03272015.aspx

They honor Number 7, Ryan Missler, 98. Missler died in a car accident August 9, 2014. He was a three year starter for OWU.

http://blogs.owu.edu/magazine/remembering-ryan/
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 27, 2015, 01:03:49 PM
youtube video of highlights from BW game.

https://t.co/3QDWH2YB5N/s/-OOs
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 27, 2015, 02:43:20 PM
This is done on other conference boards so I thought I would try this here.

NCAC predictions

OWU takes 3 of 4 from Wabash. (Or possibly a split.)
Wooster sweeps Allegheny 2-0
Depauw takes 3 of 4 from Witt
Kenyon takes 3 of 4 from Hiram.

Denison and Oberlin do not have conference games this weekend.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 28, 2015, 06:08:21 PM
Wooster and Allegheny rescheduled there Saturday games to Monday in Niles Ohio.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 29, 2015, 09:06:04 PM
Ohio Wesleyan, takes two from Wabash today. 1-0 and 7-6 in 10 innings.
OWO scored 1 in the first. Thats all they needed as Charles Cooper pitched seven scoreless innings, he gave up 4 hits, walked 3, and struck out 5. He was almost matched by wabash's,  Jensen Kirch, pitcher who went 6 innings, 4 hits, 1 er, 2 walks and 5 so.

In game two OWU freshman Kevin Zullo, traded 0's with Wabash's Josh Piercey, for seven innings giving up 5 hits with 0 walks and 5 so. While Piercy went nine innings, with 6 runs, 0 earned, striking out 8.
OWU Second baseman Aaron Strausbaugh went 4 for 5 with an RBI. Catcher Aaron Caputo hit a walk off single in the tenth to complete the victory.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 29, 2015, 09:19:30 PM
Kenyon and Hiram split.
Wooster and Allegeny split.
Depauw roughed up Witt for 2 wins.
in OOC Denison loses 1 to Case and in the top of the 8th is losing 8-4.
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Post by: countyroad on March 30, 2015, 08:41:58 AM
I absolutely hated playing ball in weather like we had over the weekend. Cold & windy days this time of year give me flashbacks to H.S..
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 30, 2015, 08:45:36 AM
First game at Delaware was not too bad. But by the end of the second it was miserable.  The game in Granville was probably pretty bad. They finished up after 9:oo pm in snow and rain.
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Post by: wally_wabash on March 30, 2015, 11:05:55 AM
Seems like a good time for my annual "the 7-9, 7-9 weekend four game series are awful" post. 

The 7-9, 7-9 weekend four game series are really awful.  They need to be playing three 9s like adults.  That is all. 
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Post by: countyroad on March 30, 2015, 02:56:34 PM
After falling behind 6-1 to Allegheny this afternoon Wooster scored 10 in the 6th to take a 11-6 lead. Unfortunately they gave up 4 runs in the bottom of the inning. It's the bottom of the 7th now with the score 12-10 Wooster but 'gheny has runners at the corners with 1 out...

Wooster won 12-11 in Game 1 today. Whew
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Post by: countyroad on March 30, 2015, 04:34:32 PM
Wooster is trying the same approach in game two. Down 5-0 in the 4th.  :-\
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 30, 2015, 06:42:07 PM
Ohio Wesleyan wins both games today. 8-4 and 23-3. So OWU, starts NCAC play 4-0. Congratulations to all the young men.
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Post by: countyroad on March 30, 2015, 07:35:17 PM
Wooster came back again and won 7-6

Nice job.
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Post by: countyroad on March 31, 2015, 08:24:18 AM
Wooster cracked this week's top 25 as they come in at #25.  8-)  They host Marietta tomorrow @ 4:00. Heidelberg (#6), Baldwin Wallace (#16) and Ohio Northern (#23) are the other ranked Ohio teams. All three schools are on Wooster's schedule which is nice to see.  ;D ;D
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2015, 09:55:50 AM
Congratulations to Wooster. I was hoping the Bishops would get a vote but, alas, it was not meant to be. Maybe if we beat Berg on Weds, we can get some. Anyway it is good to be 11-4.  At Close on Sunday we were still 9-4.

Wabash Needs pitching. They may want to consider throwing 1 and 2 on Sundays, and hope to steal a few on Saturday. They threw 11 pitchers in the 4 game series:
4 Fr
2 So
1 Jr
2 Sr

I do not know if some of them were just getting garbage time in but it looks to me that Piercey is the best they have. They sure miss JT, Ross Hedricksen, and Luke Holm
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2015, 09:57:52 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on March 30, 2015, 11:05:55 AM
Seems like a good time for my annual "the 7-9, 7-9 weekend four game series are awful" post. 

The 7-9, 7-9 weekend four game series are really awful.  They need to be playing three 9s like adults.  That is all. 
Wally I agree the two are completely different games. The 7 inning games are a sprint, and the 9's are a marathon. I remember when it was 2, 7's each day.
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Post by: wally_wabash on March 31, 2015, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2015, 09:55:50 AM
Wabash Needs pitching. They may want to consider throwing 1 and 2 on Sundays, and hope to steal a few on Saturday. They threw 11 pitchers in the 4 game series:
4 Fr
2 So
1 Jr
2 Sr

I do not know if some of them were just getting garbage time in but it looks to me that Piercey is the best they have. They sure miss JT, Ross Hedricksen, and Luke Holm

I mean, everybody needs pitching.  That's part of the folly of the four game series.  If you look at team ERAs, seven(!!) of our teams have ERAs over 5.00 and are ranked 220 or lower out of 375 ranked teams nationally.  That's not good.  I realize that the majority of the current stats are composed of the spring break trip games, but that's the same deal- many, many games squished in to a very small time window.  You just flat run out of dudes.  You get around that Sunday finale and you've got to fill 9 innings with who-knows-what...well, you get a 20-burger. 

And if you're already in a spot where you don't have enough arms to play four games in two days, who the heck are you throwing out there midweek?  You've pretty much got to write that thing off too.  It's a bad system. 

Am I whining because Wabash is having trouble getting through these tough back-to-backs without giving up a jillion runs?  A little, yeah.  Wabash obviously knows the league schedule and you know what depth of personnel you need to get through a weekend and have a reasonable shot on Sunday afternoon.  But honestly, these four game series turn into mush more often than not on Sundays.  I don't think that's great for anybody really. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2015, 05:48:21 PM
Wally,
I agree I would like everyone to play, 3-9's. One Friday and two Saturday. That leaves Sunday's for make up, or OOC games.

But there are teams that can do it. Yes we have quite a few teams with high ERA, but coaches have shown in the past that they can recruit enough pitching. Week days are usually pitched by Johnny Wholestaff. Saturday starters get one or two, same with Sunday starters. Add in the long relief guys and your set. Now ifvyou have more than one week day game, that can be a problem.

Some of the schools, do all their OOC games during spring break, Kenyon and Oberlin. Then they have all their pitching for conference.  I am glad OWU does not do that.

I prefer the two 7-9's as opposed to the old two 7-7's.  A seven inning game is not baseball.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 31, 2015, 06:55:18 PM
If you're going to play 4 game conference series you almost have to do it like the WIAC where they more or less scrap OOC once conference play starts.

Did the NCAC ever do the full round robin schedule in baseball?  I can't remember if they actually tried that recently or it was just talked about on here that they should try it.  I know geographically it's not the most realistic idea.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2015, 07:04:29 PM
They tried it 5 seasons ago for 1 year. Afterwards most of the east wanted to go back to division play. It was while my son was being recruited. The vote came down to Allegheny, they decided to go back.
Allegheny lost too many conference games to Weather.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 31, 2015, 07:09:37 PM
It may not be as bad now, but man back in the day it was a terrible split.  It was Wooster and a collection of door mats in the East while the West was a complete dog fight between pretty good teams.  I used to feel bad for the 3rd place West team because a lot of years they would have coasted to 2nd in the East and made the NCAC tourney.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2015, 07:46:22 PM
Yeah, I think when they decided to go back to divisions, they would look for alternatives. Hence the cross over was born.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2015, 10:42:05 PM
Softball plays round robin. But there is not much choice because of 9 teams, instead of 10.. They also just play each team twice in a dh.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 01, 2015, 08:30:08 AM
Kenyon takes 3 of 4 from Hiram.
L 14-17
W 15-2
W 7-2
W 11-1

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 01, 2015, 10:15:02 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2015, 10:42:05 PM
Softball plays round robin. But there is not much choice because of 9 teams, instead of 10.. They also just play each team twice in a dh.

Softball is a little different in that 1) those games are always 7 innings, even in the championship rounds and 2) softball doesn't require the same supply of available pitchers to get through 28 innings.  Two pitchers have thrown 85% of DePauw's innings this year.  Two pitchers have thrown 95% of Kenyon's innings.  I'm not going to go through the whole league, but I'm sure the numbers are similar all the way down there. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 01, 2015, 10:51:16 AM
Yeah, form what I know of Softball that is usually the case. At all levels not just D3.
I know Corey Stevens  from Wabash was the driving force originally for baseball round robin. If they would ever go round robin in the future, they either should go to one DH like the OAC or 3, 9 inning games. They would have to start conference play earlier. I think when they did round robin they played a DH on Saturday against one team and a DH on Sunday against another. So you may play Wooster on Saturday and then Allegheny on Sunday. Its been a while so I could be incorrect. But Round robin against 9 other teams would take 9 weeks,if they only did one a week, which means they would have to start conference play in he middle of March or even early March. That would conflict with spring trips for most teams. Most teams go to Florida so some conference games may be able to be completed down there. But Oberlin Goes to Arizona, and Depauw went to Georgia this year. The only other option would be to do some mid-week DH's (again like the OAC), but again Kenyon and Oberlin generally do not play midweek games once they come back from their spring trip.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on April 01, 2015, 11:02:21 AM
Man, that bus ride from Wabash to Allegheny would be BRUTAL.  Do they spend the night for basketball? 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 01, 2015, 11:37:43 AM
I think DePauw to Allegheny would be worse.

Looking back at the schedules for 2011, it looks like Earlham had already departed for the HCAC and did not compete in the NCAC. I was right they started conference play near the end of March and they Played a single DH games were 7 innings apiece. Saturday at one opponents and Sunday at another. Wabash played Allegheny and Hiram on the same weekend. The biggest problem I see with this is trying to do make ups. I wish they would have tried to tweak it a bit instead of just abandoning it.

I do not think that Oberlin and Kenyon would ever agree to play conference games during the week.

As a side note I really miss Buckeye State Baseball. Dr. you always did a nice job of covering D3 baseball in Ohio. Looking through the archives I found Links announcing that 25 players form the NCAC had been selected for the DIII All Buckeye state baseball team.

http://www2.northcoast.org/baseball/All-BuckeyeStateBaseballTeam/2011

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Post by: wally_wabash on April 01, 2015, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on April 01, 2015, 11:02:21 AM
Man, that bus ride from Wabash to Allegheny would be BRUTAL.  Do they spend the night for basketball?

The basketball thing has worked a couple of different ways in the past.  For a long time, Wabash/Earlham played Hiram/Allegheny on back to back days (generally a Friday night backed up with a Saturday matinee), with the westerly teams traveling to the easterly teams during alternating years- so those teams only played each other once per season.  And those games have always been played right after the first of the year before classes kick back in from the winter break. Then we had a goofy year where Earlham was gone, we only had nine teams, and we played a full double round robin.  Now with DePauw in play the basketball folks have kept the double round robin, so the western teams and the eastern teams each get to make the trip to each other and we still play those sets of games on back-to-back days, just that we're doing it twice per year now (once at home, once on the road) instead of just once.  Clearly, the full double round robin is preferable...there gets to be some goofy things going on with the way that all of the teams that aren't on the geographic extremes of the conference were deciding who plays who just once.  The double round robin is just cleaner and I'm glad we're doing it. 

As for baseball, ultimately no matter what kind of schedule arrangement we would try to create is going to be at the mercy of the Midwestern late winter/early spring.  It's never going to go as planned.  And whereas the spring sports season is already short, trying to play games outside in Indiana/Ohio in February and early March is really, really hard to do.  I think Wabash's first 8 games this year were postponed or cancelled.  That's 20% of your season.  Gone. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 01, 2015, 12:07:17 PM
I agree Wally. The only way round robin would ever work is for Week day DH's. Eastern and western teams would have to play each other on the weekends of coarse. but I do not ever see this happening. In reality the cross over is probably the best solution.
I am not sure why they just do not make it part of the tournament.
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Post by: countyroad on April 01, 2015, 07:05:27 PM
Wooster wins over Etta 19-8. Sophomore Lackner had another 3 homer game.

Correction: Lackner "only" hit 2 homers yesterday.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 01, 2015, 09:59:39 PM
Ohio Wesleyan, tops 6th ranked Heidelberg 22-7 today, in non conference action at happy Valley.
Junior Aaron Caputo broke a school record with 6 hits in the game. Sophmore Trey Gluth, slugged a grand slam. Ohio Wesleyan is now 12-4 on the season.
In conference play this weekend I am most interested in seeing the outcome between Denison and Depauw.
Good luck to all NCAC teams as they continue OOC play.
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Post by: countyroad on April 02, 2015, 07:36:11 AM
Nice win there for OWU. I checked Wooster's schedule a while back hoping they had a game at OWU so I could make the short drive up 23 to watch. Unfortunately that's currently not an option.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 02, 2015, 08:35:33 AM
Nice win for Wooster over Marietta as well. Hopefully it will help move them up in the polls.
No, OWU and Wooster have not scheduled each other as OOC opponents since the spring of 2011.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 03, 2015, 10:51:19 AM
Denison Depauw series moved from Friday, Saturday to Saturday, Sunday.
Hiram, Oberlin are still on for Today, as of now. Fridays games postponed, no make up rescheduled.
Wabash, Witt on Saturday, Sunday.
Wooster, Kenyon on Saturday, Sunday.

Predictions
Denison, Depauw Split
Hiram, Oberlin, Oberlin 3 of 4.
Wabash, Witt, Wabash sweeps.
Wooster, Kenyon, Wooster takes 3 of 4.

Gators and the Bishops have OOC contests this weekend.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on April 04, 2015, 08:30:11 PM
Did Witt graduate a lot last spring?  They're really struggling. Yikes.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 04, 2015, 08:47:47 PM
They weren't good last year either, but they did lose 6 Sr's lead by Tyler Hutchison from Moeller, who seemed to be there forever,  David Moore and Tyler Grau. Thats 3 of their top 5 hitters.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 04, 2015, 09:06:28 PM
NCAC today:
Wooster and Kenyon Split.
Denison and Depauw split.
Wabash sweeps Witt.
Hiram sweeps Oberlin.
Allegheny loses 2 to Case.
Ohio Wesleyan takes two from Ohio Christian
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 05, 2015, 08:20:01 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 03, 2015, 10:51:19 AM
Denison Depauw series moved from Friday, Saturday to Saturday, Sunday.
Hiram, Oberlin are still on for Today, as of now. Fridays games postponed, no make up rescheduled.
Wabash, Witt on Saturday, Sunday.
Wooster, Kenyon on Saturday, Sunday.

Predictions
Denison, Depauw Split
Hiram, Oberlin, Oberlin 3 of 4.
Wabash, Witt, Wabash sweeps.
Wooster, Kenyon, Wooster takes 3 of 4.

Gators and the Bishops have OOC contests this weekend.
Results:
Denison and Depauw split.
Wooster takes 3 of 4 from Kenyon.
Wabash takes three of four from Witt.
Hiram take two from Oberlin and Fridays games need to be rescheduled.
In out of conference play,
Ohio Wesleyan sweeps a DH with Ohio Christian.
Allegheny loses 2 to Case Western.

Ohio Wesleyan's game against Capital was canceled due to Capital having to make up an OAC contest. In their stead ONU comes to Littick. This should help Ohio Wesleyans SOS.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 05, 2015, 09:36:02 PM
I am looking at the NCAC teams SOS.
http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2015/schedule?tmpl=sos-template


Team SOS Rank
Allegheny 12
Ohio Wesleyan 69
Hiram 113
Wabash 123
DePauw 148
Kenyon 159
Denison 248
Wooster 256
Wittenberg 282
Oberlin 314
Thoughts?
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 05, 2015, 09:43:39 PM
It is not a good thing that the two teams at the bottom also have the worst strength of schedule.
Gheny really stepped up with a tough schedule. Wooster being 18-3 helps the East teams SOS.
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Post by: countyroad on April 06, 2015, 01:12:06 PM
I am really most interested to see how Wooster does against H'berg, BW & ONU. Wooster seems to be winning the games they're supposed to win so that is worth something. I was hoping for a sweep of Kenyon but I'll take 3 of 4. Morris from Kenyon pitched pretty well in the game they took from Wooster.

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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 07, 2015, 07:06:16 AM
In D3 poll Wooster jumps to 17, and Ohio Wesleyan, makes their first appearance with 13 votes.

Road, I have to agree, I am interested to see how Wooster does against that competition. Ohio Wesleyan has played those teams. It wil make a nice comparison.
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Post by: countyroad on April 07, 2015, 08:28:21 AM
When I saw the poll I had this hunch that voters saw Wooster @ 25 last week and said to themselves, "shoot, I forgot about Wooster," and more voters voted for them this week.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Wooster's offense seems to be doing well. They really put up the stats against the lower end pitchers. Wooster's pitching needs to step up. They have decent arms but no real true ace. At least that's my impression from reading box scores and stat sheets.

Overall though Wooster has done better than I was expecting. It's encouraging.
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Post by: Pops33 on April 07, 2015, 07:16:00 PM
I believe that the people that know Wooster understood that they had a huge senior class graduate and wanted to make sure they were for real before voting for them in the polls.  I think they have proven themselves to the voters with their record.  Their offense seems to be pretty good, but I agree with CountyRoad that they still have some work to do in the pitching department.

Ohio Wesleyan has a great resume as well, with wins over OAC foes Otterbein, Baldwin Wallace, and Heidelberg.  The series with DePauw this weekend is a big one.  DePauw started off slow, but seem to be putting it together just in time for conference play.  Looking forward to seeing how this one plays out.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 07, 2015, 09:34:12 PM
Zullo pitching for Ohio Wesleyan.
Baseball vs Ohio Christian 04-04-2015: http://youtu.be/KUVq0xsKRyQ
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 07, 2015, 10:45:22 PM
Ohio Wesleyan catcher Aaron Caputo named NCAC player of the week.
http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2015/4/6/BA_04062015_1.aspx
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Post by: countyroad on April 08, 2015, 08:19:57 AM
Quite a week for Caputo! Congrats to him.

Looking ahead to the weekend it appears the rain will move out of the region. Wooster will be taking on Wabash down in Chillicothe at VA Memorial ballpark. Wooster's schedule shows it as a 3 game series?
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Post by: Pops33 on April 08, 2015, 10:13:46 AM
My understanding is that Wooster vs. Wabash is considered an out of conference series.  They are in separate divisions so I believe that it will not be counted in their division/conference standings.  Someone can correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by: countyroad on April 08, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
Seems logical to me Pops.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 08, 2015, 11:27:44 AM
You are all correct. the Wabash Wooster conflagration, is considered OOC, so it will not effect the conference standing other than Win % which I beleive MAY BE one of the tie breakers. So there is only a indirect effect on the standings.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 10, 2015, 09:16:55 AM
It looks like Ohio Wesleyan's games against DePauw may be moved to a turf field. I am not sure where. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 10, 2015, 12:15:07 PM
NCAC conference predictions
East
Kenyon sweeps Oberlin.
Gheny takes 3 of 4 from Hiram, Hiram is improving and will probably be playing a meaningful  games in the crossover, but not strong enough to split with the gators.

West
Denison sweeps Witt, enough, said.
Ohio Wesleyan takes 3 of four. Not overly confident, I think Depauw is better than their record. The split with Denison last week does not give us enough info to get a good bead on the Tigers. Ohio Wesleyan has beat some really good teams this year. I am not convinced that Depauw has the pitching to to hold Ohio Wesleyan in check.  I could be wrong here, but I hope I am right. I think the worst out come, for ohio Wesleyan will be a split. 

OOC
Wooster takes 3 from Wabash. Ohio Wesleyan swept Wabash, I am interested to see how this turns out. This is a bit of a measuring stick, between the East and the West.
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Post by: Pops33 on April 11, 2015, 06:46:55 PM
Kenyon splits with Oberlin today.  Kenyon scored 6 runs in the first inning of the first game and then only scored 2 more the rest of the day.  The Kenyon offense was very potent last week versus Wooster.  Wonder what happened.  Of course, Wooster's pitching has had trouble stopping most offenses lately.  Their last 4 games, Wooster has allowed 16, 9, 9, and 11 runs.  Good thing Wooster's offense is putting up numbers.

Wooster split with Wabash.
Allegheny swept Hiram today.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 11, 2015, 07:03:01 PM
Ohio Wesleyan takes two from Depauw. Freshman Kevin Zullo pitched a complete 9 innings in game two.
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Post by: countyroad on April 13, 2015, 12:17:00 PM
Wooster ended up taking 2 of 3 from Wabash over the weekend. As Pops noted, it's a good thing Wooster is scoring runs because they are not doing much to keep their opponents off the bases.  It'd be nice to have Buckingham on the team and in the rotation. I still have no idea what happened with him.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 13, 2015, 02:17:50 PM
Depauw returned the favor yesterday and took two from OWU.
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Post by: countyroad on April 14, 2015, 08:04:39 AM
There are 5 Ohio Teams in the top 25. Wooster moves up to 12 from 17. Still crossing my fingers that pitching improves and Lackner stays hot at the plate. The kid is on fire. Reminds of Kapferer. It's a bit strange to see Marietta in the RV section only with 1 vote.

H'berg #8
Wooster #12
BW #18
Ohio Northern #23
John Carroll #24

RV - OWU (13) & Marietta (1)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 14, 2015, 12:23:22 PM
Ohio Wesleyan has dropped out completely and received no votes this week. I am not surprised. But I am not worried. OWU took 4 of 4 from Wabash, Wooster took 2 of 3. Ohio Wesleyan could have taken control of the west last weekend if we would have taken one of those games on Sunday.
On to Denison this weekend. I hope the rain holds off.
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Post by: Pops33 on April 14, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
Polls don't matter when you have the opportunity to decide the championship on the field.  Last year is a good example with DePauw coming from the loser's bracket to take the NCAC title and make regionals.  It is always nice to be recognized though!
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 14, 2015, 05:23:53 PM
Yeah, I would almost rather fly under the radar. Try,to be 1 in the west and and host the number 4 in the cross over.
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Post by: countyroad on April 15, 2015, 06:18:34 AM
I know I've said before I don't really care about polls. I was merely pointing out how many teams Ohio has in the poll and Marietta was not one of them.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 15, 2015, 07:05:49 AM
Yea that is an unusual situation.
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Post by: countyroad on April 16, 2015, 08:31:00 AM
Wooster lost @ CWRU last night 3-2 in walk off fashion. Wooster got pretty good pitching but didn't get enough baserunners.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 16, 2015, 09:57:27 AM
Ohio Wesleyan, wins in New Concord last night. Aaron Caputo hit a HR in the Top of the 10th, Cooper pitched the last two scoreless, innings for the win.
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Post by: countyroad on April 20, 2015, 08:51:54 AM
Wooster swept Hiram over the weekend and stands at 24-5 on the season. Wooster out scored Hiram 55-7 over the four games. Wooster has two weekday games this week. They travel to JCU Tuesday and host Heidelberg Wednesday.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 20, 2015, 11:06:50 AM
Ohio Wesleyan was able to get teh Saturday games in but the Sunday games were delayed until Tuesday.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 21, 2015, 09:10:22 PM
Ohio Wesleyan takes 3 from Denison. They are 9 - 3 in conference play, with Witt to go. I have to thank Wabash for taking one from DePauw. Depauw is now 11-5 in conference play. They cannot improve on that and are left rooting for Witt to take 3 of 4 from Ohio Wesleyan next week. Wesleyan owns the tie breaker over Depauw. Since Depauw and Wesleyan split, the next tie breaker is record over the next place team. If Denison is in third Wesleyan owns it, 3-1, to Depauws 2-2. If Wabash is third, Wesleyan still has the advantage, 4-0 over 3-1.
It is good to see, that Wesleyans fate is in their own hands.
On to Marietta tomorrow.
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Post by: countyroad on April 22, 2015, 07:18:04 AM
Wooster won 23-6 at JCU. They host Heidelberg this evening. The rain is expected to move out by then so they should get game in.
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Post by: countyroad on April 23, 2015, 08:14:31 AM
Wooster defeated Heidelberg last night 16-8. Heidelberg scored 7 of their runs in the 9th. Tyler Schuch started for Wooster and went 5 1/3 only giving up one hit in his first appearance of the season on the mound. Man is that great to see! He's also hitting .398 on the season.

Wooster hosts Oberlin for their upcoming weekend series.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 23, 2015, 06:56:12 PM
Ohio Wesleyan beats Marietta 12-7. Van Winkle batted .1000 with 3 home runs, he was about a foot away from having four. Ohio Wesleyan heads to Springfield this weekend, against Witt.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 24, 2015, 11:01:03 AM
Quote from: Pops33 on April 24, 2015, 10:01:36 AM
The rankings are out and listed below.  Looks like they used the records as of Sunday 4/19 even though they are dated 4/24.  So it does not take into account Wooster's decisive wins over John Carroll and Heidelberg this week, as well as Ohio Wesleyan's win over Marietta yesterday, or any other action so far this week.


MIDEAST REGION
rankInstitutionIn-Division win-loss pct  Overall WL Pct
1Heidelberg24-6-0 ( 0.800)  24-6-0 ( 0.800)
2Baldwin Wallace21-7-0 ( 0.750)  21-7-0 ( 0.750)
3Adrian24-7-0 ( 0.774)  24-7-0 ( 0.774)
4Ohio Northern23-7-0 ( 0.767)  23-7-0 ( 0.767)
5Wooster24-5-0 ( 0.828)  24-5-0 ( 0.828)
6Marietta18-12-0 ( 0.600)  18-12-0 ( 0.600)
7John Carroll21-9-0 ( 0.700)  21-9-0 ( 0.700)
8Anderson (IN)20-10-0 ( 0.667)  20-10-0 ( 0.667)
9Thomas More22-7-0 ( 0.759)  22-7-0 ( 0.759)

There is still a lot of action between these teams the next couple of weeks. 
Congratulations to Wooster being ranked. I am not sure what Ohio Wesleyan has to do to get people to take a look. Was it because we were so bad last year and everybody is just waiting for us to collapse?
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Post by: mideastfan2 on April 24, 2015, 12:55:58 PM
^^^  the FINAL regional rankings are the ones to worry about.  These will fluctuate in the coming weeks, especially because many of these teams will play each other.

In the past, history has shown that the Regional Rankings can change A LOT from week to week, and even from the 2nd to last rankings, to who actually gets IN to the post-season.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 24, 2015, 02:12:38 PM
Thanks for the reminder mideastfan2, I am aware of that. Just a little frustrated. I know that the rankings can evern change from the final public to the last secret. The best way is to win youyr pool A bid.
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Post by: Westside on April 24, 2015, 02:34:11 PM
Bishop - just curious, but who do you think Ohio Wesleyan should replace? I don't know much about this region other than the big names that are known nationally.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 24, 2015, 03:05:31 PM
Should replace is a bit strong, Would like to see replace is probably more appropriate.
Right now, Marietta. we will see next week, we won last night 12-7, against them. We only faced Herstine for an inning. He came in in relief. Ohio Wesleyan has beat Heidelberg, 22-7, Baldwin Wallace, 8-4, Brockport state who is regionally ranked 2-1.

We also lost to BW early, 5-10, and Marietta 3-8.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 24, 2015, 03:08:07 PM
And Westside thanks for coming over and posting
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Post by: motorman on April 24, 2015, 08:43:26 PM
Most definitely after this week, Marietta doesn't deserve to be regionally ranked. After losing today, they now have the 6th best overall record in the OAC. There is no justification for being 6th ranked in the region.
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Post by: countyroad on April 27, 2015, 08:06:08 AM
Wooster swept Oberlin over the weekend and secured the divisional championship. Their record stands at 30-5. I never could've imagined they'd be where they are right now at the the start of the season. They still have an opportunity to accomplish plenty more.

They have two big non-league games this week on the road at ONU and BW. Both were ahead of Wooster in the last regional rankings so there's plenty of motivation.
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Post by: NCACfan22 on April 27, 2015, 11:04:56 AM
Does anyone know what the tiebreaker would be if Depauw and OWU end up in a 1st place tie in the West Division? They split in their regular season series.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 27, 2015, 01:57:58 PM
Here it is as I understand it. 
You look at the team immediately below them, in the standings, and compare records against that team. who ever has the better record wins.
If Denison is the third place team:
OWU, 3-1
Depauw, 2-2
If Wabash somehow is the third place team
OWU 4-0
Depauw 3-1

In both of those scenarios OWU owns the tiebreaker.

I hope OWU takes both from Witt today so we do not need to worry about it.
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Post by: NCACfan22 on April 27, 2015, 10:35:17 PM
So with OWU and Witt splitting today...can anyone speak definitively about what the tiebreaker is?? I have heard that next in line for the tiebreaker is "Aggregate Head-To-Head Runs" which would give Depauw the advantage, but I can't speak for sure on this.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 27, 2015, 11:05:45 PM
If you checK the ncac site it looks like Depauw won the tie breaker. They host Oberlin.
http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/2014-15/releases/weeklyrelease-4-27-15
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Post by: countyroad on April 30, 2015, 07:29:10 AM
Wooster lost last night to BW8-3. That's a 2 game losing streak. Both to ranked OAC foes. They were outscored 11-4 in those two games.
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Post by: Pops33 on April 30, 2015, 08:17:33 AM
Wooster got a good pitching performance through 7 innings last night and actually led 3-2 going to the bottom of the 8th.  It was tied 2-2 and in the top of the eighth when Wooster hit a solo home run to put them up 3-2.  The bullpen then let them down in the bottom of the inning, giving up 2 singles, 2 walks and a hit batter before a bases clearing double made it 7-3.  The two teams were pretty evenly matched except for the 8th inning implosion by the pen.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 02, 2015, 08:18:29 PM
Ohio Wesleyan punched their ticket to Chillicothe. They took two from Kenyon today 26-6 and 11 - 2. They now stand at 13 -5 in the NCAC.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 02, 2015, 10:56:38 PM
Denison and Allegheny split. Oberlin and Depauw split. Wooster takes two from Wabash. (I am sure CR will come on here with the details.) As previously mentioned Ohio Wesleyan takes two from Kenyon.
So two spots are decided , Wooster and Ohio Wesleyan. Two still remain.
Hiram and Witt split.
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Post by: NCACfan22 on May 03, 2015, 05:01:24 PM
In today's action, Allegheny defeated Denison 3-0 and Oberlin upset Depauw 11-1 to finalize the Final 4 in the NCAC.

Here is schedule for Thursday (NCAC has elected to have a two-day tournament)
10 A.M. Wooster vs Ohio Wesleyan
1 P.M Oberlin vs Allegheny

Should be a great tournament!
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 03, 2015, 06:27:36 PM
I wonder how they selected opponents. Not sure how OWU was set againt Wooster. I guess being the highest seed left in the west doesn't amount to much.
I thought it would be Allegheny vs Ohio Wesleyan, and Wooster vs. Oberlin. I in am not sure why the Gators got Oberlin.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 03, 2015, 07:12:54 PM
I think I get it now. It is stupid but I get it. They do not re-seed. The cross over games are like a bracket, even though they are not part of the tournament. The Tournament pairings are decided, when the Cross over pairings are decided. When we were the two seed in the west, no matter what happened we would be facing the winner of the 1-4, east/west winner.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 04, 2015, 11:20:32 AM
Here's the bracket for the NCAC tourney. Note: if in game 6 the undefeated team loses there will be a 7th and final team. This is due to the double elimination format.

http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/Tournament/Files/2015_Bracket.pdf

For all going to the games on Thursday, safe travels.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on May 04, 2015, 05:06:37 PM
In the Wabash vs Wooster game which ended 26-20 on Saturday, the two teams combined to set a Division 3 record for most doubles in the game with 20.  Each team ended up with 10 doubles.  Quite an accomplishment!

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2015, 03:11:46 PM
I still don't understand the lack of love for Ohio Wesleyan in the regional ranking. Only thing I can think of is SOS. Some of the teams scheduled in Florida who are usually pretty strong have tanked. Although St John Fisher and Brockport are regionally ranked now. Ohio Wesleyan has wins over both. As per the D3baseball site here are the criteria for Pool B and C.

http://www.d3baseball.com/interactive/faq/ncaaTournament

Take a look at point 5

The primary criteria emphasize regional competition (all contests leading up to NCAA championships); all criteria listed will be evaluated (not listed in priority order).
• Win-loss percentage against Division III opponents.
• Strength-of-schedule (only contests versus regional competition).
    - Opponents' Average Winning Percentage (OWP).
    - Opponents' Opponents' Average Winning Percentage (OOWP).
• In-region head-to-head competition.
• In-region results versus common regional opponents.
In-region results versus regionally ranked teams.
• Ranked opponents are defined as those teams ranked at any time of the rankings/ selection process.
• Conference postseason contests are included.
• Contests versus provisional and reclassifying members in their third and fourth years shall count in the primary criteria. Provisional and reclassifying members shall remain ineligible for rankings and selection.

If the evaluation of the primary criteria does not result in a decision, the secondary criteria will be reviewed. All the criteria listed will be evaluated (not listed in priority order). The secondary criteria introduce results against out-of-region Division III and all other opponents including those contests versus opponents from other classifications (i.e., provisionals, NAIA, NCAA Divisions I and II).
• Out-of-region head-to-head competition.
• Overall Division III win-loss percentage.
• Results versus common non Division III opponents.
• Results versus all Division III ranked teams.
• Overall win-loss percentage.
• Results versus all common opponents.
• Overall DIII Strength of Schedule.
Additionally, input is provided by regional advisory committees for consideration by the men's baseball committee. In order to be considered for selection for Pools B or C, an institution must play at least 50 percent of its competition against Division III in-region opponents. Coaches' polls and/or any other outside polls or rankings are not used as a selection criterion by the men's baseball committee for selection purposes.

The one that gets me is the one in bold above. It must be too low on the totem pole to make up for strength of schedule. Ohio Wesleyan has beat many of the mideast regionally ranked teams. BW, Berg, Marietta. (Split with BW and Marietta). We did lose to ONU. We also beat NY regional ranked teams, SJF, and Brockport. Denison, Depauw and Witt being down must have really hurt us.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 05, 2015, 04:35:02 PM
A couple of things about the regional rankings and the criteria- we shouldn't look at them in any sort of priority order.  I think naturally the people voting on these lists have their own personal preferences, but ultimately I think it tends to wash out and the criteria are considered more or less equally.  That said, I'm personally very much a "who did you beat" guy when it comes to these things and if OWU has beaten more quality teams than, let's say Marietta, then I think OWU deserves ranked.  The SOS as the NCAA computes it is a weak metric and sometimes it appears that the RACs lean on it too much. 

Case and point- in the fall Wabash's soccer time had a tremendous season.  One of the (maybe THE) best ever.  Regional rankings time came around and I was crushed when Wabash wasn't only not ranked in the top 3-4 in the region (as I would have expected an unbeaten team that late in the season to be...validated by a win against Kenyon), but they weren't ranked at all.  After a couple of quick questions with the folks that follow soccer closer than I do, I was basically told that if you don't have an SOS of .500 you can pretty much forget being ranked.  That's how it works in soccer.  Maybe there's a similar SOS line of demarcation in play in baseball as well. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 05, 2015, 06:32:56 PM
Personally, I think the biggest thing hurting OWU is outside their control...the weakness of their half of the NCAC this year.  It hurts their SOS obviously.  But beyond that one of the things I always look at is how you do against the quality competition in your conference because those are the games that matter most.  That's when you're throwing your best pitchers for entire games.  The problem for OWU is that they didn't play Wooster yet and that's really the only pelt to be had in the NCAC this year.  Beating the other regionally ranked teams is good and it certainly helps their case, but my fear would be that some voters may discount it because they don't view it as a "true" measure of how good the teams are because it's usually not going to be my #1 and #2 against yours or whatever the case would be in a conference DH.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2015, 06:41:03 PM
Wally you are right their is. I believe it is at that .500 level. Ohio Wesleyan has beat every regionally ranked team that they played except ONU. They did split with some of those teams, BW and Marietta, the losses were early in the season. They beat Berg pretty badly in a weekday game.
We have also beat some teams ranked regionally in other regions, St. John Fisher and Brockport. Both from NY. Even if we were ranked I am not sure it would be high enough to get a pool c.
We will see how the tournament goes. we will have to try and get in through a Pool A. As they say. Win your conference.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2015, 06:43:40 PM
Well Dr. We play Wooster at 10 am Thursday.  Your point about the west is accurate.  Thats why I would like to see round robin in the NCAC. But that wont happen. I understand the difficulty of making that happen.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on May 05, 2015, 09:38:25 PM
I thought OWU was on the verge of making the 2nd regional rankings till they lost a pair to Wittenberg who only had 7 wins going into that series and ending up in a tie for the division with a Depauw squad that only won 3 out of conference games the entire season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 07, 2015, 12:53:40 PM
Wooster defeated OWU 12-3 today in game one. Wooster takes on the winner of the Oberlin/Allegheny game (1:00) @ 4:00 pm.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 07, 2015, 04:25:06 PM
Oberlin takes out Allegheny 7-6 in game two. Wooster vs Oberlin coming up. Wooster swept Oberlin in the regular season.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on May 07, 2015, 07:08:59 PM
OMG, 15-25 Oberlin about to knock Wooster out of the winners bracket, winning 11-2 in top of 8th.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 08, 2015, 07:37:16 AM
Who had Oberlin a top the winners bracket after day 1?  ;D  I'm hoping Wooster can get the bats going because I wouldn't count on the pitching.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 08, 2015, 11:51:49 AM
No sign of any bats for Wooster so far. Props to OWU pitching however for their efforts.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 08, 2015, 01:12:57 PM
Am I reading this right- If Wooster is to win the tournament, they'll have to play three times today?  Five games in two days? 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 08, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
You are correct Wally.

Wooster had quite the comeback against OWU. Down 3-0 they got 3 in the 7th only to let OWU score 1 in the bottom of the 8th to retake the lead. Down to their last strike with a runner on 2nd, Wooster got a double from Lackner scoring Ostendorf from 2nd for the tie. Wooster then got an unearned run in the 10th for the win. Schuch hit a foul ball that was dropped by the fight fielder. Schuch got a double then later scored the eventual game winner.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 08, 2015, 01:56:05 PM
Good grief,  that's asinine.  There has to be a better way to do this. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 08, 2015, 02:27:14 PM
From what I was reading on the NCAC site, the current format was settled on so seniors would be able to attend their graduation ceremonies. Their rule was that no game would start after 10 PM (e.g., due to rain delays) and no more than 4 games would be allowed in one day. If it came down to a required game 7, with game 7 being the 5th game on Friday, then the conference would meet to discuss a new date for playing game 7.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on May 08, 2015, 02:59:59 PM
I thought there was an NCAA rule that no team could play more than 2 games in 1 day. Only if completing a previously suspended game like Case and I think JCU did can you play 3 in a day.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 08, 2015, 03:40:40 PM
From the NCAC tourney release:

The double elimination tournament continues on Thursday afternoon with the winners of Thursday's first two contests squaring off at 4:00 p.m. with a slot in the championship round on the line, while the losers of Thursday's first two games will meet on Thursday evening at 7:00 p.m. in an elimination game. Please note, no game will be started after 10:00 p.m. on Thursday night.

The final slot in the championship round will be determined on Friday morning at 10:00 am with the winner of game four taking on the loser of game three. The first championship game will be played on Friday at 2:00 p.m. with game seven scheduled for 5:00 p.m., if necessary.

Please note, should only three games be played on Thursday and game seven would put a team in position to play four games on Friday, the tournament committee will meet to set an alternate date and time for the contest based on which teams are remaining.

I'm not sure what the NCAC may have documented in their bilaws/charter/whatever.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 08, 2015, 06:13:12 PM
23-6 Wooster over the Obies.  Get ready for another butt kicking 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 08, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
Woo up 1-0 top of the first and still batting. Go Scots
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on May 08, 2015, 07:53:13 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 08, 2015, 06:13:12 PM
23-6 Wooster over the Obies.  Get ready for another butt kicking

Who's butt? 4-2 Oberlin top of 4.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCACfan22 on May 09, 2015, 12:27:28 AM
Oberlin defeats Wooster 11-5 and wins its first ever NCAC title. Incredible past couple weeks for them as they have combined stellar hitting, solid pitching (Freshman Pitcher Milo Sklar was named Tournament MVP) and clean defense. They now head on to the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 11, 2015, 12:33:05 PM
Yes it is incredibly hard to get in the loser bracket and comeback and win. Wooster kind of did it to themselves. I would think that you would do whatever you could to stay in the winners bracket. Wooster in their second game started a young man who had only pitched 9 innings all year. I understand why they did it. They had swept Oberlin during the regular season. It is pretty well known hat Oberlin does not have a lot of pitching depth. They probably thought they could get by with a second line starter and save their other guy for the championship.
I have to give props to Oberlin pitcher Sean Kiley. He pitched very well and hit his spots. He is a control guy it looked like Wooster hitters were getting frustrated. OWU did the same thing against Wooster, when we pitched Trevor Ray. He is a control guy as well and kept Wooster off balance for most of the day.

Allegheny was holding their graduation on Saturday. Wooster and OWU are on Sunday and Obelin is not until May 22. If the Gators had not made the tourney I believe we would have scheduled into Saturday. I was hoping once Allegheny was eliminated that they would update the schedule. Unfortunately they did not. They have in the past.

I am not quite ready to talk about OWU's elimination. Still too fresh.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 11, 2015, 12:34:42 PM
Quote from: motorman on May 08, 2015, 07:53:13 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 08, 2015, 06:13:12 PM
23-6 Wooster over the Obies.  Get ready for another butt kicking

Who's butt? 4-2 Oberlin top of 4.
Wooster had to beat Oberlin twice. They won the first game 23-6, but could not come back and win the second.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCACfan22 on May 11, 2015, 01:27:51 PM
Wooster denied an at-large bid...pretty unbelievable that Wooster's season was ended by Oberlin. Oberlin plays #1 SUNY Cortland on Wednesday in the New York Regional.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 11, 2015, 02:03:20 PM
Quote from: NCACfan22 on May 11, 2015, 01:27:51 PM
Wooster denied an at-large bid...pretty unbelievable that Wooster's season was ended by Oberlin. Oberlin plays #1 SUNY Cortland on Wednesday in the New York Regional.

in the 20 or so years I've been around D3 baseball, that is definitely one of the phrases I thought I'd never hear!

I guess if you can't beat Oberlin 2 out of 3, when it matters most, you probably don't deserve an at-large bid.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 11, 2015, 02:32:57 PM
Can't disagree with mideastfan here. I really thought Wooster would out slug Oberlin in the final game Saturday. Not so fast my friend. Hope they can find some more pitching in the off season. I sure wish they had Buckingham. I never did hear what happened there..
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 11, 2015, 03:28:22 PM
It is probably not a major stretch to say the primary reason Wooster was left out of the tournament was due to their weak SOS ranking (237th according to D3 baseball).  I guess going 36-9 against really bad competition does not impress too many of the committee members. 

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 11, 2015, 03:43:43 PM
Oberlin and Kenyon being what they were and the Gators having a not so great record, really hurt Wooster. Same thing happened to OWU. We had a really good SOS before starting conference play and then we watched it plummet. I thought the NCAC was on an upward swing with DePauw and Denison getting better the last couple of years, but both took a step back this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 11, 2015, 04:15:57 PM
Quote from: countyroad on May 11, 2015, 02:32:57 PM
Can't disagree with mideastfan here. I really thought Wooster would out slug Oberlin in the final game Saturday. Not so fast my friend. Hope they can find some more pitching in the off season. I sure wish they had Buckingham. I never did hear what happened there..

That's one solution.  We could also not do things like schedule five games in two days.  That doesn't help anybody. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 11, 2015, 04:39:20 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on May 11, 2015, 04:15:57 PM
Quote from: countyroad on May 11, 2015, 02:32:57 PM
Can't disagree with mideastfan here. I really thought Wooster would out slug Oberlin in the final game Saturday. Not so fast my friend. Hope they can find some more pitching in the off season. I sure wish they had Buckingham. I never did hear what happened there..

That's one solution.  We could also not do things like schedule five games in two days.  That doesn't help anybody.

True, but Wooster had plenty of issues prior to the NCAC tourney.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 11, 2015, 05:50:33 PM
I guess I stuck my foot in my mouth after saying Woo would kick the Obies butt.  After putting up 23 runs no way I thought they would lose the finial game. Congrats to the Obies.

The NCAC needs to figure out a better way to define the champion when it comes to baseball. I wish I had the answer but, I don't. The cross over series is garbage.  One hot weekend can take down a good team. I like the OAC format of 3 games against each team. I know everyone talks about the travel issue but, they make it work for basketball.
The NCAC tourney lacks respect for the players. No team should have to play 3 games in 1 day. Just my thoughts. No sour grapes because Woo did not win.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 11, 2015, 06:13:43 PM
Minor correction, the OAC plays just a single DH against each of the 9 other conference foes.  I like the full round robin format as it's obviously the preferred way to do it, but the longest trip in the OAC is probably around 4 hours give or take.  I wouldn't be surprised if the NCAC had trips nearly double that duration (I can't imagine DePauw to Gheny is a fun ride).  I don't know that full round robin is feasible for an outdoor spring sport like baseball when travel is such a concern in the NCAC.

But if they were insistent of doing a full round robin they could do something like have DePauw, Wabash, Allegheny and the next longest drive from IN (Hiram?) meet in the middle and play each other Sat/Sun DH at a neutral site.  Wabash plays Hiram Sat, Gheny Sun and vice versa.  Play in Xenia at AIA Field or something.  It's all turf with lights.  And unlike Chillicothe there'd be decent hotels and places to eat not far from there.  I realize they don't want to incur the cost of that overnight stay annually though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 11, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
Thanks for the correction Doc.  NCAC teams need to compete against each other like OAC teams.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 11, 2015, 07:19:44 PM
A full round robin was tried back in 2011. Wabash for example played a DH at Hiram on Saturday and a DH against  Allegheny on Sunday. From what I understand the west teams wanted to continue round robin, and thought they had the votes, until one of the east coaches was swayed to vote the other way, at the last minute.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 12, 2015, 08:19:16 AM
According to the headline in Wooster's local paper coach P is not too happy about not making the post season. Unfortunately you need to subscribe to read the full article online. I'm not a subscriber, but would like to hear what he had to say, not that I was expecting him to be happy about the situation.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on May 12, 2015, 10:35:48 AM
Really disappointed the committee did not select Wooster for the post season.  They had the second most wins in the country at 36.  I realize their SOS was not good, but you still have to win games without slumping to get to that amount of wins.  As Bishop stated, the NCAC conference schedule really weakened the overall SOS for the everyone in the conference.  Their Florida schedule did not help much either, but Wooster's OOC schedule once they got back to Ohio was strong.

Wooster had the #1 scoring offense in the country, which should carry a little cache with the committee.  You can say that had to do with their SOS, however, they played the top 5 teams in the OAC and those games help RAISE their runs per game average, scoring an average of 15.4 runs per game in those games.  I guess beating the OAC regular season champion 16-8 and the OAC tournament champion 19-8 did not carry enough weight with the selection committee, either.

In the end, all they had to do was take care of business against Oberlin.  I understand that point completely, it does not need to be re-stated.  Oberlin took 2 out of 3 against #1 (West division) seed DePauw, beat #2 (East Div) seed Allegheny, and beat Wooster 2 out of 3.  They are clearly playing significantly better than an 18-26 team.  But it does not change the fact that Wooster had the opportunity to take care of business and did not do it.

So is Wooster a better team if they played the top 6 teams in the country and if they lost to them all to finish 30-15, but with a respectable strength of schedule?  It does not seem logical, but that seems to be the message the committee is putting out.  I know there are other factors involved, but the boys won 36 games, it's a tough pill to swallow. 

Sour grapes.  I know.  You can call it that. 


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 12, 2015, 11:41:20 AM
Quote from: Pops33 on May 12, 2015, 10:35:48 AM
Really disappointed the committee did not select Wooster for the post season.  They had the second most wins in the country at 36.  I realize their SOS was not good, but you still have to win games without slumping to get to that amount of wins.  As Bishop stated, the NCAC conference schedule really weakened the overall SOS for the everyone in the conference.  Their Florida schedule did not help much either, but Wooster's OOC schedule once they got back to Ohio was strong.

Wooster had the #1 scoring offense in the country, which should carry a little cache with the committee.  You can say that had to do with their SOS, however, they played the top 5 teams in the OAC and those games help RAISE their runs per game average, scoring an average of 15.4 runs per game in those games.  I guess beating the OAC regular season champion 16-8 and the OAC tournament champion 19-8 did not carry enough weight with the selection committee, either.

In the end, all they had to do was take care of business against Oberlin.  I understand that point completely, it does not need to be re-stated.  Oberlin took 2 out of 3 against #1 (West division) seed DePauw, beat #2 (East Div) seed Allegheny, and beat Wooster 2 out of 3.  They are clearly playing significantly better than an 18-26 team.  But it does not change the fact that Wooster had the opportunity to take care of business and did not do it.

So is Wooster a better team if they played the top 6 teams in the country and if they lost to them all to finish 30-15, but with a respectable strength of schedule?  It does not seem logical, but that seems to be the message the committee is putting out.  I know there are other factors involved, but the boys won 36 games, it's a tough pill to swallow. 

Sour grapes.  I know.  You can call it that. 



OWU's schedule is very similar to Woosters against OAC teams. It is what it is. One of the problems I have with the SOS is it is against teams in your region. Ohio Wesleyan played ST. John Fisher, and while they started slow they finished strong with a decent win percentage, but OWU does not get the benefit of that because SJF is in the New York region. Also when you start winning, it can be tough to schedule good teams, in season. We had several games we could not make up against teams, on our schedule, with good win %, and ended up scheduling  additional games against the likes of Cap. One team canceled a late season game with us, not weather related, and again all we could find to play us was Cap.
Until more teams in the NCAC regularly beat the better OAC teams we are going to have this issue. Usually there are two good NCAC teams and the rest are middling to bad. Last year it was Denison  and Wooster. This year it was Ohio Wesleyan and Wooster.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 12, 2015, 12:24:49 PM
NCAC team announced.
http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/All-NCAC/All-NCAC_Files/BASE_ALL-NCAC_2015.pdf

Kevin Zullo gets Pitcher of the year AND New comer of the year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 13, 2015, 08:19:17 AM
Quote from: Pops33 on May 12, 2015, 10:35:48 AM
Really disappointed the committee did not select Wooster for the post season.  They had the second most wins in the country at 36.  I realize their SOS was not good, but you still have to win games without slumping to get to that amount of wins.  As Bishop stated, the NCAC conference schedule really weakened the overall SOS for the everyone in the conference.  Their Florida schedule did not help much either, but Wooster's OOC schedule once they got back to Ohio was strong.

Wooster had the #1 scoring offense in the country, which should carry a little cache with the committee.  You can say that had to do with their SOS, however, they played the top 5 teams in the OAC and those games help RAISE their runs per game average, scoring an average of 15.4 runs per game in those games.  I guess beating the OAC regular season champion 16-8 and the OAC tournament champion 19-8 did not carry enough weight with the selection committee, either.

In the end, all they had to do was take care of business against Oberlin.  I understand that point completely, it does not need to be re-stated.  Oberlin took 2 out of 3 against #1 (West division) seed DePauw, beat #2 (East Div) seed Allegheny, and beat Wooster 2 out of 3.  They are clearly playing significantly better than an 18-26 team.  But it does not change the fact that Wooster had the opportunity to take care of business and did not do it.

So is Wooster a better team if they played the top 6 teams in the country and if they lost to them all to finish 30-15, but with a respectable strength of schedule?  It does not seem logical, but that seems to be the message the committee is putting out.  I know there are other factors involved, but the boys won 36 games, it's a tough pill to swallow. 

Sour grapes.  I know.  You can call it that.

As I mentioned before, the NCAC killed Wooster and OWU this year.  The worst OAC SOS was Cap and they ranked 86 spots above Wooster.  SOS is clearly a big factor and their conference mates let them down.

The other thing that may have hurt Wooster is the way they limped to the finish line.  Obviously losing twice to a team with a losing record is not helping, but beyond that they really needed a win out of those ONU and BW losses to help their case.  ONU stung worse because BW was ahead of Wooster already, but throwing your ace against ONU's 2nd level starter and losing probably hurt their ranking relative to ONU. And beyond that it feeds into the perception that Wooster put up gaudy numbers against inferior teams when they struggle to score against both those teams.  Now, they scored plenty against other OAC teams, but the ONU and BW games were the most recent and, in theory, when these teams should be peaking.

The Wabash wins would have also raised an eyebrow for me because the Scots gave up A LOT of runs to a 12-26 team. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 13, 2015, 11:25:20 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 13, 2015, 08:19:17 AM
The Wabash wins would have also raised an eyebrow for me because the Scots gave up A LOT of runs to a 12-26 team.

I'm not going to excuse Wabash's 12-26 (we need to be better than that), but I don't think it's fair to hold it against Wooster that they gave up runs to a 12-26 team.  That 12-26 team could score.  That wasn't the issue.  They just couldn't get anybody out.  Do you know hard it is to win a game when you give up 20 runs?? Wooster won the games and that's the part that should matter. 

This does bring up an interesting point about the crossover thing that the NCAC does.  SOS is clearly a superhuge deal for the selection committee (way too much of a deal if you ask me).  So why are we forcing our best teams (read: the teams with the best chance at at-large selection) into a three game series with divisional 4th place teams (which will always have poor records) that damage the at-large résumé?  This is a bad, bad practice.  As I've thought more about this over the last week or so, I think I'm either in favor of breaking the tournament up over two weekends (the crossover weekend and then the weekend reserved for the tournament usually) or doing away with the tournament altogether and having a best-of-3 amongst the division winners to decide the autobid. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on May 13, 2015, 04:25:11 PM
Oberlin is currently leading #1 ranked Cortland State 4-3 after 6 innings after being down 3-0.  We will see how the game ends, but the Yeomen continue to play very good baseball.  They are not the pushover everyone thinks they are. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on May 13, 2015, 04:42:17 PM
I'm all in on Oberlin!  8-)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 13, 2015, 10:28:12 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on May 13, 2015, 11:25:20 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 13, 2015, 08:19:17 AM
The Wabash wins would have also raised an eyebrow for me because the Scots gave up A LOT of runs to a 12-26 team.

I'm not going to excuse Wabash's 12-26 (we need to be better than that), but I don't think it's fair to hold it against Wooster that they gave up runs to a 12-26 team.  That 12-26 team could score.  That wasn't the issue.  They just couldn't get anybody out.  Do you know hard it is to win a game when you give up 20 runs?? Wooster won the games and that's the part that should matter. 

I agree that winning the games is what should matter.  But my point in saying it'd raise an eyebrow for me was just that when you're dealing with a committee rather than computers the committee can be influenced by things that shouldn't matter.  For the record, in this instance I'd be shocked if it was even on the radar.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 14, 2015, 11:39:48 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 13, 2015, 10:28:12 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on May 13, 2015, 11:25:20 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 13, 2015, 08:19:17 AM
The Wabash wins would have also raised an eyebrow for me because the Scots gave up A LOT of runs to a 12-26 team.

I'm not going to excuse Wabash's 12-26 (we need to be better than that), but I don't think it's fair to hold it against Wooster that they gave up runs to a 12-26 team.  That 12-26 team could score.  That wasn't the issue.  They just couldn't get anybody out.  Do you know hard it is to win a game when you give up 20 runs?? Wooster won the games and that's the part that should matter. 

I agree that winning the games is what should matter.  But my point in saying it'd raise an eyebrow for me was just that when you're dealing with a committee rather than computers the committee can be influenced by things that shouldn't matter.  For the record, in this instance I'd be shocked if it was even on the radar.

As I'm reading through the excellent work done by the D3baseball.com folks, it appears more likely than not that Wooster was never even considered for selection.  If they got jumped by ONU in the final Mideast rankings (they seem to think that was probable), Wooster was never even discussed.  That's rough.  The selection process is a cruel, cruel game. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 14, 2015, 12:05:53 PM
The Obies just broke it open against Oswego  St.  7-1 Yeo, two on, one out in the 8th.  If they can make that stick for three more outs, our Yeomen live to play another game. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 14, 2015, 01:10:27 PM
The NCAC needs the Obies to do well against other regions/conferences. We need to build the rep of the NCAC.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 14, 2015, 01:21:24 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 14, 2015, 01:10:27 PM
The NCAC needs the Obies to do well against other regions/conferences. We need to build the rep of the NCAC.

I think that's got more to do with how ten teams do in February/March than what one team does in May. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 14, 2015, 01:33:33 PM
I do not just mean this year. Too many years the NCAC goes 2 and done in the tourney. Or 1-2. We need to be respectable in the regionals or we will always be overshadowed by the OAC. We need to start rebuilding a reputation. It helps the all the teams when it comes to regional ranking time. Yes we also need to do better in March and April. But unless we change how we play conference games SOS will always be against us. Beacuse if one team beats up on all the others it drags the SOS down.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2015, 02:56:39 PM
If I'm remembering correctly even Wooster had a couple short trips to regionals recently.  The thing that buoys the OAC is that they have sent (I think) 6 different teams to the NCAA regional in the last few years and 3 different teams have won a regional.  That is going to help your entire conference when regional rankings come around.  It probably didn't hurt ONU if they did indeed end up ahead of Wooster in those final regional rankings.

Hopefully Oberlin continues to play well.  They are certainly proving themselves to be a tough out for anyone.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 14, 2015, 03:00:28 PM
Amen Doctor. +1. It just is not Oberlin doing well. Any NCAC rep has to do well. This is not something that gets fixed over night but over several years, but you need to start somewhere.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 14, 2015, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2015, 02:56:39 PM
If I'm remembering correctly even Wooster had a couple short trips to regionals recently.  The thing that buoys the OAC is that they have sent (I think) 6 different teams to the NCAA regional in the last few years and 3 different teams have won a regional.  That is going to help your entire conference when regional rankings come around.  It probably didn't hurt ONU if they did indeed end up ahead of Wooster in those final regional rankings.

Hopefully Oberlin continues to play well.  They are certainly proving themselves to be a tough out for anyone.

Whoa.  Is this really a thing that happens?  Because it shouldn't be.  Are the RACs not being guided by the selection criteria, or do they get to just make up whatever rules they want?  Prior championship results shouldn't be impacting current year's regional rankings.  Can it influence top 25 polls?  Sure (not my style, but I get it).  But not the regional rankings.  Those should be governed by the criteria.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: motorman on May 14, 2015, 04:35:56 PM
Dr, I believe it's just 5 dIfferent OAC teams to regionals in last 7 years. Don't know how long since Ott went but only Mount, JCU, BW, Berg and Marietta since at least 2009.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 14, 2015, 04:55:40 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 14, 2015, 03:00:28 PM
Amen Doctor. +1. It just is not Oberlin doing well. Any NCAC rep has to do well. This is not something that gets fixed over night but over several years, but you need to start somewhere.

I'd also say that saying that we need to do better and/or win a bunch of regionals year over year is a pretty high bar.  And kudos to OAC teams for their success, but that is HARD.  85% of the field is out after one weekend.  Unlike the other sports where you get incremental benchmarks (Sweet 16, Regional Finals, etc.) and can judge your tournament progress appropriately, in baseball there's making the field and then there's making it to Appleton and there's nothing in between. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 14, 2015, 11:38:37 PM
I do not think they need to win a bunch of regionals, just acquit themselves well. Don't go 0-2 or 1 and 2. I would like to start seeing some NCAC teams go 2-2. beat some quality teams
We also need to schedule strong teams during the spring trips. To raise our SOS those teams must be Mideast regions teams. Scheduling tough teams out of region does not help your SOS. Scheduling creampuffs in region does not help either.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2015, 11:57:59 PM
Quote from: motorman on May 14, 2015, 04:35:56 PM
Dr, I believe it's just 5 dIfferent OAC teams to regionals in last 7 years. Don't know how long since Ott went but only Mount, JCU, BW, Berg and Marietta since at least 2009.

I think you're correct. My mistake! 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 15, 2015, 09:12:58 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on May 14, 2015, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2015, 02:56:39 PM
If I'm remembering correctly even Wooster had a couple short trips to regionals recently.  The thing that buoys the OAC is that they have sent (I think) 6 different teams to the NCAA regional in the last few years and 3 different teams have won a regional.  That is going to help your entire conference when regional rankings come around.  It probably didn't hurt ONU if they did indeed end up ahead of Wooster in those final regional rankings.

Hopefully Oberlin continues to play well.  They are certainly proving themselves to be a tough out for anyone.

Whoa.  Is this really a thing that happens?  Because it shouldn't be.  Are the RACs not being guided by the selection criteria, or do they get to just make up whatever rules they want?  Prior championship results shouldn't be impacting current year's regional rankings.  Can it influence top 25 polls?  Sure (not my style, but I get it).  But not the regional rankings.  Those should be governed by the criteria.

Guided by the selection criteria?  Absolutely.  But as you know from your expertise in the football pool C stuff that criteria is somewhat at the mercy of what the members value more/less.  And that can change year to year.  This year SOS seemed to be the big one.  It just wouldn't surprise me if when they're splitting hairs ranking two teams with very similar resumes per the criteria that name recognition could sway things.  I'm with you, Wally.  Each team, each season should be an independent entity judged on its merits.  I'm simply questioning whether that holds true 100% of the time. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 15, 2015, 10:42:29 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 14, 2015, 11:38:37 PM
I do not think they need to win a bunch of regionals, just acquit themselves well. Don't go 0-2 or 1 and 2. I would like to start seeing some NCAC teams go 2-2. beat some quality teams
We also need to schedule strong teams during the spring trips. To raise our SOS those teams must be Mideast regions teams. Scheduling tough teams out of region does not help your SOS. Scheduling creampuffs in region does not help either.

I want to address the regional competition thing.  Over the last few years, the NCAA (rightfully) has made it increasingly difficult to play non-regional games.  About the only way to not play a game that ultimately counts as regional is to play out of division or play a team in the first or second year of transition to D-III.  From the 2015 baseball handbook:

●● All competition within an institution's defined sports region.
●● All competition within an institution's geographical region (Constitution 4.13.1).
●● All competition within a 500-mile radius from one institution to another.
●● All conference competition.
●● All out-of-region contests conducted during one institutional vacation period (i.e., spring break) for sports with a spring NCAA championship (Bylaw 31.3.2.3).


What's missing is the administrative region thing, but really, I'm having a hard time seeing teams from the Mideast playing any other D3 team that doesn't fit one of those descriptions.  I'm looking at OWU's schedule and the only non-regional games are those against Ohio Christian and Ohio Dominican.  Similarly looking at Wooster's schedule, all of their 2015 games count as regional competition. 

From my experience in tracking this sort of thing through football, it's less a matter of who you play than it is a matter of teams in your conference winning a healthy portion of their non-league games.  Good OOC records proliferate throughout the conference via the OOWP piece of the puzzle. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 15, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
Thanks Wally, you are right I missed the final line:

●● All out-of-region contests conducted during one institutional vacation period (i.e., spring break) for sports with a spring NCAA championship (Bylaw 31.3.2.3).

I did not see that in the D3 FAQ I referenced. I did not review the handbook so that is my Bad. +1

So playing St John fisher probably hurt early on but once they start winning would have done some to boost the SOS. We still ended up in the 200's as per D3 baseball. As has been said in other threads that the D3 baseball formula may not be quite the same as what the NCAA comes up with. It would be interesting to compare the two. Does the NCAA publish the SOS for D3. When I have a moment I will check their website.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on May 15, 2015, 11:25:11 AM
The NCAA has last year's strength of schedule for the Mideast Region listed here http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/pdf/staticpdfrank (http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/pdf/staticpdfrank), but they have yet to update it with 2015 information.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 15, 2015, 01:16:00 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on May 15, 2015, 11:25:11 AM
The NCAA has last year's strength of schedule for the Mideast Region listed here http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/pdf/staticpdfrank (http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/pdf/staticpdfrank), but they have yet to update it with 2015 information.
Unfortunately the link does not work. You probably have to go to the site and navigate to it yourself.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on May 15, 2015, 02:57:46 PM
If you go to the NCAA's regional rankings page, at the bottom is a link for each region.  Click on that to display the 2014 Regional Rankings.  Hoping that they will update that at some time to the 2015 rankings.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCACfan22 on May 15, 2015, 04:32:17 PM
Oberlin defeats SUNY Old Westbury 9-3 (who defeated BW) and advances to play Keystone at 8 tonight. Go Yeo!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCACfan22 on May 16, 2015, 11:23:40 AM
OBERLIN WINS!! Game resumed in bottom 6th with YEO trailing Keystone (31-11) 4-1. Yeo battled back and won 5-4. The Cinderella story continues!! They now play RPI at 1 PM with a spot in the championship game against Cortland (who they beat through 8 innings) on the line.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on September 11, 2015, 01:17:54 PM
Fall games starting this week. OWU has first Fall game at 10:00 AM tomorrow. I plan on attending. It will be a nice break form the chores I have planned. I have heard they have 2 new Freshman Catchers, They will be competing with Pratt and Caputo. I assume the most of the competition will be with Pratt, I cannot see Cappy going anywhere, with his bat. Should be interesting  battle at second as well, between Stolly and Strausburg.
I have heard that Stolly has improved much defensively. While Stolly was not great at the plate with his bat, he definitely came through multiple times last year, with clutch hitting.
I believe the OF will be the same as last year. 
They lose Cooper and Buckey in the pitching rotation, but with Zullo, Wright (transferred from Walsh, last year, did not pitch much till the end of the year, while recovering from surgery.), Munger and Ray or Faley fighting for the fourth spot. So pitching depth should be fine.
There are a lot of Senior impact players this year, so hopefully they can build on last years success and make the next steps.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: NCACfan22 on October 19, 2015, 05:15:39 PM
Oberlin's 2016 schedule has been released. Massive step up for the Yeomen with their strength of schedule after winning the NCAC last year. Play Case, ONU, and John Carroll in addition to 16 games in 8 days in Arizona. Hard pressed to find a more difficult and demanding schedule in D3 baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 19, 2015, 10:53:26 PM
Good to see them stepoing up. In the past after their Arizona trip, they usually only played  the weekend DH's against conference foes. It is goos to see them playing some mid week games.
Whilenthis is an improved schedule there are tougher schedules in D3.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 20, 2015, 08:12:19 AM
Yes, just go take a look at the link to Marietta's schedule on the OAC thread.  THAT'S a tough schedule.  Good grief.  Oberlin gets credit for upping their SOS as well as the number of games in total.  Both things will only help their kids get better.  I hope they win the East to be honest.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 20, 2015, 12:24:00 PM
I would also love to see Oberlin win the East.
In the West my feeling are clearly known.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on October 20, 2015, 01:51:28 PM
Hoping for good things from the Yeomen this year.  It may be difficult for them though, they lost batters 1-7 from their starting lineup.  The bright spot is that they return their top 3-4 pitchers.  Good pitching wins games, so they should be a tough team to beat this year as well.

Allegheny returns a lot of players from last year's team and should be a strong contender for the East title.  Kenyon lost a couple of their top hitters, but they still have some pitchers to contend with.  Wooster lost big 2 contributors on offense, including the Player of the Year in Vance, and only one pitcher.  They will probably be voted the favorite to win the East and maybe the conference.

Stronger out of conference schedules will help with the overall competitiveness of every team.  However, if the conference wants to get more respect, all of the teams have to win more games.  It can't be just 2 or 3 teams with a good record.  Last year, only 2 teams out of 10 had an overall winning percentage of .600 or better.  Compare that to the OAC, where there were 7 out of 10 teams with an overall winning percentage of .600 or better. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 20, 2015, 04:50:02 PM
Part of that is the conference schedule. With 2 DH's on the Weekend, there usually is not much pitching for the week day games. OWU did pretty well during the week by doing Pitcher by committee. The week end starters would combine for 3 or four innings a piece during the week.
Teams need to consistently win. We see it all the time. A school will be competitive for a year or two but then drops back. Kenyon takes a 2 week trip to Florida and plays practically all there out of conference games down there. They come back and only play on the weekend. Then if they get the the playoffs they do not have enough pitching. Oberlin used to do something similar but there OOC games were spread over a shorter period. Some of that is not coaching but a school philosophy.
Personally I would like to go back to round robin, as well but that will never happen.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 25, 2015, 12:03:45 PM
I want to wish all the readers of this Forum a Happy Thanksgiving. Please all who are traveling be safe, I hope your travels are uneventful.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 26, 2015, 12:03:00 AM
Merry Christmas all. The season will be here soon. Players will be getting back to work, when they return to Campus. Pitchers will start to ramp up and position players better b bebin condition.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on December 28, 2015, 11:42:28 AM
I saw this posted on another page on this forum.  The first pre-season poll is out.  Can be found here:

http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseball-div-3-poll-12-22-15/

The only NCAC team listed is Wooster at #21.  Polls at this time are merely a popularity contest, but this does mean that the boys will be on the diamond soon.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 28, 2015, 02:00:39 PM
Thanks Pops. I saw that as well. As the years have gone by, I take  passing glance, and realized as you said this poll is a popularity contest.
The Boys will be on the diamond aoon though.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 01, 2016, 01:04:17 PM
The Bishops lost a member of the 2013 class. He died last night in an  accident. Brandon was a pitcher from Upper Arlington. Brandon will be missed. http://nbc4i.com/2015/12/31/one-dead-after-crash-in-perry-township-parts-of-riverside-drive-closed/
He is survived by a mother, father and sister. Brandon was one of the reasons that my son chose OWU. He was a fantastic teammate.  Prayers go out to his family.http://www.battlingbishops.com/mobile/index.aspx?rp_id=1218
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 02, 2016, 08:01:20 AM
Absolutely tragic.  It's disgusting that his friends and family are robbed of a great young man because some drunk can't take a cab instead of driving.  I hope they find some comfort during this difficult time.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballMom22 on January 02, 2016, 01:10:01 PM
Prayers from our family to Brandon's family, friends and teammates. Son spent a summer in Chillicothe as a teammate of Brandon's. I will remember him as a true competitor and gentleman.

Another senseless drunk driving tragedy. When will we start cracking down on habitual offenders?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 14, 2016, 10:57:51 PM
http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2016
Two NCAC players on the AA list.
2nd team Jaime Lackner  from Wooster.
Honorable Mention, Aaron  Caputo from OWU.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 19, 2016, 11:04:19 AM
Congratulations to Coach Mott. Welcome to the OWU community, Mason Alexander Mott.

https://twitter.com/OWUbaseball1

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 20, 2016, 07:22:22 PM
http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2016/2016Top25-week-0
Wooster comes in at 21. And OWU is in the also receiving votes. This all means nothing, lets hope these teams are in the final ranking.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on January 23, 2016, 01:11:21 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on January 20, 2016, 07:22:22 PM
http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2016/2016Top25-week-0
Wooster comes in at 21. And OWU is in the also receiving votes. This all means nothing, lets hope these teams are in the final ranking.

Means nothing!!!!  I see Wooster rising higher if they can get a SOS in the upper half of the teams.  Ths was a mark against them in the playoff selections last May.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 23, 2016, 04:27:13 PM
Not a crack on wooster. Just that it is a pre-season poll. What matters is how thwy end the seasomn. Not just Wooster but any of the teams listed. Polls are fun and it is nice to be recognized. I am very happy to see OWU getting votes, for instance. But I do not think it is thesebteams goals to get listed, but actually make it as far as they can. Sorry that i worded my post poorly.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 28, 2016, 12:57:17 PM
Looks like OWU's schedule is closer to be finalized. Looks like they we be at Fort Myers and Port Charlotte this year in the spring. They will be playing Rockford and Alvernia in Fort Myers, Moravian and Nichols in Port Charlotte
http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 28, 2016, 01:01:38 PM
Dr. Acula,
Looks like Mount is coming to Delaware.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 29, 2016, 12:59:26 PM
I saw that.  Unfortunately, I usually have little to no chance of watching much D3 baseball before April 15th so I won't be there. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 29, 2016, 03:27:41 PM
Sorry to hear that. Good luck to Mount this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 30, 2016, 11:34:54 AM
It's just the price you pay in this profession.  But it still stinks to miss the majority of the regular season (and March Madness) every year.  The good news is we live in Ohio so with the D3 baseball I'm pretty much just missing sitting in a winter coat to watch a ballgame!   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 08, 2016, 06:13:12 PM
http://athletics.kenyon.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball
Kenyon's 2016 roster...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: countyroad on February 09, 2016, 09:30:34 AM
Wooster's schedule and roster is posted.

Schedule:  http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/schedule
Roster: http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/roster
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 10, 2016, 04:18:03 PM
Mideast preview is out.

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2016/01/preview/mideast-preview

Wooster, Alegheny, then OWU.
I do not agree with that order. I would flop OWU and the Gators. Wooster deserves to be up there until someone knocks them off. Wooster's schedule is much tougher than last year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 11, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
Wooster's schedule does appear to be more difficult than last year.  I agree that based on the "known" returning players, those appear to be the 3 strongest teams.  The order may be up in the air, they all return a lot of talent.  You cannot count out the unknown though.  Who knew that Zullo, a freshman, would be pitcher of the year.  Who knew that Lackner would hit 17 home runs and be an All-American.  There is a lot of underclass talent across the conference that will most likely play big roles again this year. 

I think Wooster has too much offensive firepower returning to not be considered the favorite.  OWU and Allegheny both look very strong and could easily win the conference.  The actual order really does not matter until the conference tournament.  As we saw last year, usually the hottest team at the time wins.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 11, 2016, 07:24:28 PM
Pops I agree. Inlikebto look at the home away spliys on offense. Wooster last year was a much better offense at home. Those should be tje three favorites. nut come tourney time it could be the team tjat gets hot.
OWU did very well last year against some of the OAC powers. They neat BW and crushed the Berg. Theu did not lose much. So I have high hopes for the Bishops.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 12, 2016, 08:53:12 AM
I heard through the grapevine that the NCAC has changed the end of the year cross over series a little bit.  The two #1 seeds will play each other instead of playing the #4 seed from the other division.  Both #1 seeds would have automatic qualification for the conference tournament for being the regular season division champion.  I believe that the main reason is to improve the strength of schedule for the league's two best teams.  I don't know if they will have a separate regular season champion as well as a tournament champion as a result of this change, but it is possible. The rest of the schedule would most likely be #2 vs #4 and the #3 seeds playing each other during the cross over weekend.  If this change is true, I believe that it is a good thing for the league.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 17, 2016, 03:59:54 PM
Wabash has their roster posted.
2016 Wabash College Baseball Roster
http://sports.wabash.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball
It looks like they are loading up for 4 years from now. Over half the roster is Freshman, 21 to be exact and a third of those are pitchers.
11 So
5 jr
4 seniors

From the 4 seniors there is really only one real contributor, David Oliger, he started all 38 games and had a .340 avg. So. Cole Harlacher, .313 avg,
Pitching wise they have there lowest ERA guy from last season back Jensen Kirch, 2-6 with a 4.92 era

I predict you will see a very young team this year. I imagine that coach Stevens will give plenty of young guys opportunities.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 18, 2016, 11:29:03 AM
Denison has posted the 2016 roster:

http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/roster

Roster is starting to get some decent numbers back. The roster has 35 players this year.

FR - 7
So - 11
Jr  - 10
Sr - 7



Not a huge Freshman class, 7 players, none form Ohio again. No real warm weather states either unless you include Va.
2 pitchers, 2 Catchers and 3 other position players.

I think they will have a tough task replacing Montes, Mulligan and Apfelbach's Bats.
Huarte returns as well, but they are lost most of there starting pitching from last year. They have a total of 14 pitchers listed on the roster.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 18, 2016, 11:33:06 AM
Looks like Denison is spending their spring break in Texas. They should have a very good SOS playing the likes of Trinty, Texas Luthern, and MHB. The other Texas teams on there schedule will not hurt either.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 19, 2016, 09:22:25 AM
First action of the season tomorrow for the NCAC teams.  A Good NCAC vs OAC match up in Allegheny vs. John Carroll in West Virginia.  It will be the first action for both teams.  Also, Wabash travels to Georgia to play LaGrange.    It will be the first action for the Little Giants, but LaGrange already has 8 games under their belt.  Should be a tough test for them just from that standpoint.

Both are playing double headers on Saturday and a single game Sunday.  Excited for the season to get started.  Let's play ball!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 20, 2016, 02:30:29 PM
Unfortunately, it looks like all of the JCU/Gheny games have been cancelled. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 20, 2016, 03:12:59 PM
Shucks.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 20, 2016, 03:17:42 PM
Wabash loses to LaGrange 2-1. http://www.lagrangepanthers.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/schedule-all
Still looking for box score.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 20, 2016, 03:20:59 PM
Found it
http://www.lagrangepanthers.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/boxscores/20160220_4qgn.xml?view=boxscore
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 20, 2016, 06:29:30 PM
Wabash, goes to 0-2. They take a second loss to LaGrange.  0-3.
http://sports.wabash.edu/boxscore.aspx?id=1363&path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 21, 2016, 03:11:56 PM
http://sports.wabash.edu/boxscore.aspx?id=1364&path=baseball
Wabash goes to 0-3 with a 2-6 loss to LaGrange today. It is very early and against one opponent, so it may not mean anything but the little Giants are only hitting .202. Next up is William Peace . William peace has a newer program.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 24, 2016, 11:26:51 AM
OWU has published there 2016 Roster

http://www.battlingbishops.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Anthony Crow looks ineresting. Scored a 7 and a follow from PG.

http://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Playerprofile.aspx?ID=287641

13 Freshmen,
10 Sophomore
5 Junior
9 Senior

Problem for the under class-men, is 8 of those 9, seniors, are probably sure fire starters. I am sure one or two Freshman will break through one or two usually get starting time.
I have high hopes for this squad. They lost some leadership form last year and some pitching, but from a position player standpoint they should be all set.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 24, 2016, 12:13:38 PM
OWU returns a ton.  Zullo, Munger plus 6 starters in the field that hit .333 or better?  Their expectations have to be pretty high this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 24, 2016, 12:53:31 PM
Yes they are.
In addition to Zullo and Munger, Trevor Ray got some time on the mound. We did not see Wright until the end of the season because of an injury, but he did quite well. The pitching and hitting line up well. Defense was much improved last year, but still could be better.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 24, 2016, 04:57:00 PM
Depauw starts this weekend. they play Anderson on 2/27. Wabash also plays William Peace on 2/27. OWU does not start until 03-08. Only Wooster starts later, on March 14.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 25, 2016, 11:56:30 AM
The NCAC preview including the preseason coaches poll has been posted.  Wooster has been tabbed as the favorite, OWU 2nd, and Allegheny 3rd.

http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/preseasonpoll (http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/preseasonpoll)


Coaches poll:

2016 North Coast Athletic Conference Baseball
Preseason Coaches' Polls
(first-place votes in parentheses, followed by total points)

BASEBALL
1.   Wooster (9) 99
2.   Ohio Wesleyan   84
3.   Allegheny (1)    79
4.   Denison   67
5.   DePauw   66
6.   Oberlin    42
7.   Wabash   39
8.   Kenyon   37
9.    Wittenberg   20
10.   Hiram   17
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2016, 12:24:55 PM
I would Guess that Pettorini voted Allegheny the 1 top spot. Mott must have voted Wooster 1. OWU must have gotten a boat load of 2 place spots. Oberlin not getting much love for what they did last year. Looks like their is a big split between the top 5 and bottom 5. Pretty big split between 1/2, and 3/4 as well. 6, 7 and 8 are pretty interchangeable as is 4 and 5

Could Witt be taking over Earlhams old spot as a bottom feeder in the West?

Wooster may be as good as last year, but may not have as good a winning percentage. They are playing some tough teams this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 25, 2016, 01:50:26 PM
Is Witt that bad now?  They used to be fairly solid.  Without doing any research I would have just expected them to be middle of the pack.  Guess not.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 25, 2016, 04:35:24 PM
It looks like they have just fallen the last couple years.  Last year Wittenberg has finished 5th and in 2014 they finished 6th in the West, out of 6 teams.  They were 5-14 in conference last year and 4-15 in 2014.  The three years prior to that they won at least 20 games overall and were above .500 on the season. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2016, 05:08:22 PM
I know several players recruited by Witt. Many of the better ones ended up at Ott, mostly, or OWU. Not sure entirely why.  They have 5 Sr this year but only two are position players rest are pitchers. they have had a tough time replacing guys like Moore and Hutchinson from 2014. I do not have high hopes for them this year. Probably another down year. There ERA has been high, the top pitchers averaged 7.89 era. No pitchers over 11 innings had an era better than 6.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 27, 2016, 06:55:34 PM
Wabash loses 2 more today 5-4, and 8-0 to William Peace.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 27, 2016, 06:57:47 PM
Depauw splits with Anderson, 4-2 and 0-1.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 28, 2016, 04:48:13 PM
Wabash gets off the snide, with a 7-0 win off of William Peace U. Herman went the distance giving up 6 hits in 9 innings, with 5 Strike outs.
Wabash had 10 hits with Wolfe Harlacher and Oliger all having multiple hits.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 28, 2016, 04:50:00 PM
Depauw goes to 1-2 with  5-7 loss to Anderson.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 29, 2016, 10:38:21 AM
Deniison and OWU JV played 16 innings yesterday. No Idea of the score.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 01, 2016, 01:31:15 PM
http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2016/2016Top25-week-1
Wooster currently at 23
OWU ORV with 6 points.

No other NCAC teams listed.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2016, 12:21:17 PM
http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/2015-16/schedule
While the Indiana teams have already started, much of the rest of the conference start play this weekend, Denison in Wakefield Indiana against Calvin, The Gators go against St. Mary's (MD.), Kenyon against Wilkes, Hiram against Elms, Wittenberg against Cairns, And Depauw plays Manchester.

OWU starts Monday against  Moravian.

My thoughts and prayers go out to all teams traveling to Florida or other far off destinations. May they all be safe during there journeys.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2016, 12:33:29 PM
2016 NCAC baseball guide is out:
http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/2015-16/Guide

At least one typo. They list Kevin Zullo as pitcher, and newcomer of the year, but they list his School as Wooster.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 03, 2016, 12:52:16 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2016, 12:21:17 PM
http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/2015-16/schedule
While the Indiana teams have already started, much of the rest of the conference start play this weekend, Denison in Wakefield Indiana against Calvin, The Gators go against St. Mary's (MD.), Kenyon against Wilkes, Hiram against Elms, Wittenberg against Cairns, And Depauw plays Manchester.

OWU starts Monday against  Moravian.

My thoughts and prayers go out to all teams traveling to Florida or other far off destinations. May they all be safe during there journeys.

I used to take that for granted, but after the Bluffton baseball tragedy, the Mount Union wrestling tragedy, and even the Mount baseball bus fire, yes indeed prayers for everyone travelling.  Safe travels to all.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2016, 01:18:56 PM
Ever since the Bluffton Tragedy, I always worry a bit about all the teams traveling. Many take a Bus down to Florida or Other areas. They travel pretty much non stop. Always worried a little while son was traveling down. Rule was when he got settled in text us to let us know he made it.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 03, 2016, 01:47:42 PM
I don't recall what the breakdown was between schools driving or flying back when I was in school, but it sure seems like a lot bus now.  We flew down all 4 yrs. I played, but I think they've been busing for a number of years now.  I'd much rather fly.  I don't even drive to Chicago or Nashville from Columbus now! 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 04, 2016, 10:20:59 AM
Season previews for those schools that have posted them:


Wooster http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/20160303enp91i (http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/20160303enp91i)

Ohio Wesleyan http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2016/3/2/BA_2016pre_1.aspx (http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2016/3/2/BA_2016pre_1.aspx)

Allegheny -  http://alleghenygators.com/news/2016/2/25/baseball-allegheny-earns-first-place-vote-slotted-third-in-coaches-poll.aspx?path=baseball (http://alleghenygators.com/news/2016/2/25/baseball-allegheny-earns-first-place-vote-slotted-third-in-coaches-poll.aspx?path=baseball)

Denison - none found

Oberlin - http://www.goyeo.com/news/2016/3/1/baseball-new-look-yeomen-ready-to-roll.aspx (http://www.goyeo.com/news/2016/3/1/baseball-new-look-yeomen-ready-to-roll.aspx)

Depauw - http://depauwtigers.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/20160225mzf5xa (http://depauwtigers.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/20160225mzf5xa)

Kenyon - video http://athletics.kenyon.edu/news/2016/3/1/video-2016-kenyon-baseball-preview.aspx (http://athletics.kenyon.edu/news/2016/3/1/video-2016-kenyon-baseball-preview.aspx)

Wabash - none found

Hiram - none found

Wittenberg - none found


Happy reading
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 04, 2016, 02:34:52 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2016, 01:18:56 PM
Ever since the Bluffton Tragedy, I always worry a bit about all the teams traveling. Many take a Bus down to Florida or Other areas. They travel pretty much non stop. Always worried a little while son was traveling down. Rule was when he got settled in text us to let us know he made it.

No travel is 100% safe but the numbers for air travel and road travel are comparable and a very small percentage of those who travel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_involving_sports_teams
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2016, 01:06:50 PM
Denison opens their season 3-0. They swept Calvin last weekend in Westfield Indiana

http://www.denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/20160305s9pcy6
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2016, 01:08:43 PM
Witt beats Cairn in Florida 9-5
http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/20160307bmiy7s
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2016, 01:11:55 PM
Hiram opens the season 0-3

http://www.hiramterriers.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/schedule

2 losses to Elms and a loss to Dominican.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2016, 01:13:19 PM
Kenyon Spit with Wilkes 3-7 and 11-3

http://athletics.kenyon.edu/news/2016/3/6/baseball-lords-start-2016-slate-with-split-against-colonels.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2016, 01:15:49 PM
OWU had a game scheduled today against Moravian. No scores posted yet.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: oldtafttiger on March 07, 2016, 02:27:10 PM
OWU beats Moravian 7-6 in 10 innings with walk-off single by J. Dages
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 07, 2016, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: oldtafttiger on March 07, 2016, 02:27:10 PM
OWU beats Moravian 7-6 in 10 innings with walk-off single by J. Dages
Beat me to it I just saw it on Moravian's site. Great job Bishops!!! Keep it up go get Alvernia.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 08, 2016, 06:54:43 PM
Another walk off by OWU this time over Alvernia. 5-4. Very nice game by releiver Ryan Moss.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 09, 2016, 09:29:36 AM
Here is the link to the article on the Alvernia Game.
http://battlingbishops.com/news/2016/3/8/BA_03082016.aspx

From what I can pick up from talking to parents and ex players.
Bottom of 9th
Caputo get on with a walk.
Van Winkle Sac bunts, down the first base line to try to move Caputo over. The pitcher gets in or close to the base line to try and field the ball. Van Winkle collides with the pitcher. This is where it gets fuzzy and I do not have details. Devin is not a small guy and I guess he really blew up the pitcher. I did not see the play so I do not know if it was legal or not. The refs thought not. They eject Devin Van Winkle. Trey Gluth comes in to run for him.
New pitcher for Alvernia, He tries to hit the new Batter CJ Tosino. Ball goes to the backstop and runners advance. Now Caputo is at third. CJ, eventually works a walk. Some thought it was in retaliation for Van Winkle colliding with the pitcher.
So there is one out.
Collin Stolly hits a sac fly, Game over.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 09, 2016, 09:55:28 AM
If the pitcher intentionally threw at him with runners on 1st and 2nd in a tie game then he's not smart and they deserved to lose.  If the coach told him to then he's just an idiot.  I'm sure he wanted to plunk the next kid, but you can't do it.  Otherwise that's what happens...you lose a game on a lazy fly ball without even making the opponent get a hit.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 09, 2016, 10:04:07 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 09, 2016, 09:55:28 AM
If the pitcher intentionally threw at him with runners on 1st and 2nd in a tie game then he's not smart and they deserved to lose.  If the coach told him to then he's just an idiot.  I'm sure he wanted to plunk the next kid, but you can't do it.  Otherwise that's what happens...you lose a game on a lazy fly ball without even making the opponent get a hit.
I agree. All this is second hand, but I believe my sources are pretty reliable. That caused them to lose the game. I am waiting to see Alvernia's game recap.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 09, 2016, 10:10:48 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 09, 2016, 10:04:07 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 09, 2016, 09:55:28 AM
If the pitcher intentionally threw at him with runners on 1st and 2nd in a tie game then he's not smart and they deserved to lose.  If the coach told him to then he's just an idiot.  I'm sure he wanted to plunk the next kid, but you can't do it.  Otherwise that's what happens...you lose a game on a lazy fly ball without even making the opponent get a hit.
I agree. All this is second hand, but I believe my sources are pretty reliable. That caused them to lose the game. I am waiting to see Alvernia's game recap.
It looks like Van Winkle was ruled out. so First was unoccupied. So not as bad an idea as I originally reported. If pitcher had successfully plinked Tosino, it would just have set up a DP.
http://athletics.alvernia.edu/boxscore.aspx?path=baseball&id=13793
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 16, 2016, 09:46:33 AM
NCAC in D# top 25
Wooster moves up in the poles to 19. Denison receives 5 votes.
Wooster Starts there season with a 9-1 loss to John Hopkins, and rebounds with a win against Salem state 8-5
Denison is 6-1 with some key wins over Mary Hardin Baylor 20-8, Texas Luthern 6-1, Their only loss is to Trinity Texas, 13-5. They play Texas Tyler today.
Ohio Wesleyan finishes there spring trip 4-2. They have wins over Moravian and Alvernia.
Oberlin starts their season with two losses to Ohio Northern.
Wabash is 5-7, I do not see any signature wins on there schedule.
Depauw is 5-4 with wins over Capital and Manchester.
Witt is 2-5.
Allegeny is 2-0 with wins over Fredonia and JCU.
Hiram is 1-9
Kenyon is 7-5 with wins over Penn St.-Behrend and Geneva highlighting their schedule.

With Denisons wins it looks like they are currently the class of the conference.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 16, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
Just got back from Delaware,  OWU beat Otterbien, 10-9. It did not look good for the Bishops as they dug themselves into a 6-1 hole. But they battled back and took the lead in the 8th and held on.
Littick was a bit of a launching pad today. Both teams combined for 4 home runs.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 16, 2016, 11:28:16 PM
Wooster  beat one of the might WIAC schools, Wisconsin - stout, 12-2. That is a nice win for Wooster. Should keep them in the top 25.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 17, 2016, 09:54:05 AM
I'm not sure I'd classify Stout as a good win.  I think they're the doormat of the WIAC.  If they had beaten one of the perennial top teams like UWW or USP I'd be very impressed.  Stout?  Not so much.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 17, 2016, 01:20:13 PM
OK that is good to know. I should pay more attention to some of the other conferences that NCAC teams are beating.
Mary Hardin Baylor that Denison Beat 20-8 has one good win against Trinity but are 7-11, so that may take some of the shine off that win.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 17, 2016, 01:28:11 PM
Denison Listed 13 in Massey's
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2016&sub=11620
Still way too early for the Northern teams to have enough games against each other for Masseys to be accurate. But nice to see Denison getting some love.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 18, 2016, 07:44:22 PM
Defending NCAC champion starts it spring trip tomorrow in Arizona with a crazy schedule.  They play a double header on 8 straight days.   I don't think any team has enough pitching for that schedule.

It's good to see that most of the teams that have played their spring break schedule are winning games.  6 out of 10 teams with winning records so far.  That is good for the conference.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 19, 2016, 04:45:35 PM
OWU takes first game of DH from Transy 19-2. Senior  Pete Munger goes 6 innings. Lots of new guys saw plying time today.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 19, 2016, 04:52:07 PM
Denisons game with Letourneau cancelled today. Always hate to see the last game of a spring trip canceled. Denison goes 6-2 on their spring trip.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 19, 2016, 04:57:42 PM
Wabash is on a 3 game winning streak. Merchant Marine , Rockford and now NAIA,  Robert Morris. And it looks likebthey are on their way to a fourth. They are beating RMU, 9-1 in the sixth.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 19, 2016, 07:43:01 PM
OWU won the second game of the DH 13-4, to sweep Transylvania. They are now 7-2...
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 19, 2016, 08:04:47 PM
Bishops are looking good.  I think they'll beat BW and sweep Mount coming up. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 19, 2016, 08:25:35 PM
Thanks Doctor. I hope you are right. I always likebthe games against the OAC teams. I know you will not be at the MT. Game, but I hope to be.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 21, 2016, 04:59:14 PM
Wooster just got a win from Manchester to go 5-2 on the year.
http://woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2015-16/schedule

12 inning contest.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 22, 2016, 10:03:18 AM
It's early, but so far in the unofficial NCAC vs. OAC battle - the NCAC is 6-3 vs. the OAC.

NCAC has wins over Heidelberg, Otterbein, Capital, John Carroll, and Wilmington (2)

OAC has wins over Hiram and Oberlin (2)


Next clash is Wednesday - OWU vs BW & Denison vs Muskingum


Good luck to all.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 22, 2016, 11:36:46 AM
BW vs. OWU tilt has moved to Littick field in Delaware. BW new field is not complete.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 23, 2016, 07:35:13 PM
OWU defeats BW, 7-4. OWU has won 5 straight and sit at 8-2.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on March 25, 2016, 10:07:30 PM
Wooster finishes their Florida trip with a nice record of 8-2.  :)

Scots won their last four games on the trip over Manchester, Keystone, Western Connecticut and Wisconsin-Platteville.  Two of the last four games went into extra innings and Wooster used late rallies in all four games to clinch the win in each game.

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 26, 2016, 09:42:16 AM
After losing their first game of the season to Johns Hopkins, Wooster then went 8-1 with their loss being to a pre-season All-American pitcher from North Central Illinois.  They played a much stronger schedule down south this year and came through it very well, finishing 8-2. 

The NCAC looks to be pretty strong this year, with an overall record of 66-54.  If you take into consideration that Hiram is 1-10, the overall record without them is 65-44.  I cannot wait for conference play to start next weekend to see how everything shakes out.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 28, 2016, 02:15:27 PM
BLD...Mount is now playing a single game at OWU tomorrow at 4pm.  Hopefully the weather cooperates.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 28, 2016, 03:46:49 PM
Yeah, I hope it does as well. OWU then plays Marietta Weds.
Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 29, 2016, 08:02:21 PM
OWU played Mount today. They came away with a 14-2 victory. Pete Munger was the starting and winning pitcher.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 29, 2016, 08:37:22 PM
Mount continued their play from the 2nd Etta game it looks like.  Too many errors, not enough pitching.  I'm glad I wasn't able to go watch that!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 29, 2016, 09:24:59 PM
I missed it as well. I eas stuck at work.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 31, 2016, 09:13:38 AM
Conference play starts this weekend.  Anybody up for predictions:

Wittenberg @ Depauw (4 games)
OWU @ Wabash (4)
Kenyon @ Hiram (4)
Allegheny @ Wooster(4)

OOC matchup:
Denison @ CWRU (2)

Oberlin - Idle
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2016, 12:32:52 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on March 31, 2016, 09:13:38 AM
Conference play starts this weekend.  Anybody up for predictions:

Wittenberg @ Depauw (4 games)- Depauw takes 3
OWU @ Wabash (4) - OWU takes 3
Kenyon @ Hiram (4) - Kenyon takes 3
Allegheny @ Wooster(4) - Wooster sweeps

OOC matchup:
Denison @ CWRU (2) - Split

Oberlin - Idle - Oberlin Sweeps, Idle has won no games this year and is looking really bad
This is kind of tough, there are very few if any common opponents.
Wooster played a tougher schedule this year and still did very good, Allegheny has not quite lived up to expectations out of conference.
Hiram has not been good this year so I see Kenyon taking 3, I do not predict a sweep though. Kenyons schedule was not that strong. I think the terriers take one.
OWU - Wabash. Wabash has not beaten any of the tougher teams on there schedule. Even though OWU schedule was not quite as strong as Woosters they still beat some good teams. I think OWU out slugs the little Giants to take three.
Wittenberg has four wins but 3 those wins come from the likes of Wilmington and Carn, not historically tough teams. I would not be surprised if Depauw sweeps. But Witt may be able to take 1.
Denison has been pretty good this season. They played well out west but did not beat any really strong teams out there. But when they came home they did beat Ohio Northern. They deserve credit for that. Old NCAC member Case seems to be playing better than last year. I think they split.
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Post by: 108 Stitches on March 31, 2016, 05:16:43 PM
BLD as I mentioned to you in your West post Denison looked good (on video feed at least) against Trinity. It was a 5-5 score through 7.5 innings until Trinity broke it open in the 8th.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2016, 05:41:15 PM
Yes, and I am sure they are very good. But I still think they split with Case.
They did indeed come close, and competed well against Trinity,  But they still lost. They did beat tx-Lu. But lost to UT-Tyler.
I really like Deegan, I think he will do well.
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Post by: Pops33 on April 01, 2016, 02:01:24 PM
Predictions for this weekend:

Depauw sweeps Wittenberg - Depauw looks pretty good and I think the home field allows them to sweep
OWU takes 3 from Wabash - I initially thought sweep for OWU but am thinking the Little Giants will take one at home
Kenyon sweeps Hiram - I don't think Hiram is very good.  Kenyon has better pitching and hitting.
Wooster takes 3 from Allegheny - Wooster has played a pretty strong schedule with good success.  Allegheny's top couple of starters have great stats and the Gators are better than their record.  I think Wooster is still the better team.

Denison splits with Case.  Denison looks like the stronger team, but I still think that it is a split
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Post by: ADL70 on April 02, 2016, 10:04:42 PM
CWRU sweeps Denison, 7-5 and 11-2.  Spartans didn't face Big Red's ace, Huarte, who seemingly will start Sunday vs Marietta, since he pitched Tuesday.  The Spartans are a team to watch.  They are young.  The ten position players with the most ABs, are all underclassmen, as are the top three starters.  They have found power as they have ten HRs already compared to only four all last year. In addition they are among D3's leaders in bases stolen. 

Of their nine losses, three were to open the season at #9 Shenandoah, one to #7 Emory (Spartans also beat them), and a 1-0 loss to Marietta.  Up coming, if weather cooperates, Mon JCU, Tues and Weds Ott, Saturday Gheny and OWU, and Sunday Gheny DH.  A real gauntlet for a pitching staff that might be a bit thin.  Three with Wooster and two with Marietta loom later in the season.

Monday edit:

Now #56 Massey

Tuesday Ott cancelled  JCU moved to Tuesday
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Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 06, 2016, 03:27:48 AM
The Spartans are on a bit of a roll, having CRUSHED cross-town rival John Carroll 15-3 today.

I'm still optimistic that they can finish strong and possibly get an at-large bid to the playoffs.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 06, 2016, 10:31:39 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 31, 2016, 12:32:52 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on March 31, 2016, 09:13:38 AM
Conference play starts this weekend.  Anybody up for predictions:

Wittenberg @ Depauw (4 games)- Depauw takes 3
OWU @ Wabash (4) - OWU takes 3
Kenyon @ Hiram (4) - Kenyon takes 3
Allegheny @ Wooster(4) - Wooster sweeps

OOC matchup:
Denison @ CWRU (2) - Split

Oberlin - Idle - Oberlin Sweeps, Idle has won no games this year and is looking really bad
This is kind of tough, there are very few if any common opponents.
Wooster played a tougher schedule this year and still did very good, Allegheny has not quite lived up to expectations out of conference.
Hiram has not been good this year so I see Kenyon taking 3, I do not predict a sweep though. Kenyons schedule was not that strong. I think the terriers take one.
OWU - Wabash. Wabash has not beaten any of the tougher teams on there schedule. Even though OWU schedule was not quite as strong as Woosters they still beat some good teams. I think OWU out slugs the little Giants to take three.
Wittenberg has four wins but 3 those wins come from the likes of Wilmington and Carn, not historically tough teams. I would not be surprised if Depauw sweeps. But Witt may be able to take 1.
Denison has been pretty good this season. They played well out west but did not beat any really strong teams out there. But when they came home they did beat Ohio Northern. They deserve credit for that. Old NCAC member Case seems to be playing better than last year. I think they split.
So it looks like I was a bit wrong.
Witt and Depauw split.
Wooster and Allegheny split.
Wabash and OWU split.
Kenyon takes 2 from Hiram, and will complete the series today, if they can get it in.
Denison loses 2 to Case, Thanks ADL!
Oberlin has not played since the 30th.

Looks like it was pretty much splitsville for the conference games.

I wish Case was still part of the NCAC for BB. 
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Post by: TexasDad on April 06, 2016, 12:18:19 PM
For completeness, Denison beat Marietta 3-2 on Sunday.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 06, 2016, 01:46:12 PM
Texasdad, good to hear.
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Post by: Pops33 on April 06, 2016, 03:26:55 PM
I was wrong too on my predictions.  It appears that there is a lot of parity in the conference.  I was at the Allegheny-Wooster games on Saturday.  There was a  25 mph wind blowing straight out to center (and, obviously right in the pitchers face).  It was very tough conditions to pitch in.  You can see by the box scores that two of the best pitchers in the conference both had difficulty and gave up a bunch of runs.  A total of 7 home runs were hit in the 11.5 innings that were played on Saturday.  When the teams got together under normal conditions on Tuesday to finish the second game, Wooster took control and outscored Allegheny by a score of 20-5, although they could not recover from the 6 run deficit to win the continued 2nd game from Saturday.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on April 06, 2016, 08:14:27 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on April 06, 2016, 03:26:55 PM
I was wrong too on my predictions.  It appears that there is a lot of parity in the conference.  I was at the Allegheny-Wooster games on Saturday.  There was a  25 mph wind blowing straight out to center (and, obviously right in the pitchers face).  It was very tough conditions to pitch in.  You can see by the box scores that two of the best pitchers in the conference both had difficulty and gave up a bunch of runs.  A total of 7 home runs were hit in the 11.5 innings that were played on Saturday.  When the teams got together under normal conditions on Tuesday to finish the second game, Wooster took control and outscored Allegheny by a score of 20-5, although they could not recover from the 6 run deficit to win the continued 2nd game from Saturday.

Wooster is a launching pad in general so as a former pitcher thinking about that place with a 25 mph headwind makes me cringe.  Short of having a nasty knuckler in your arsenal I can't see how that'd end well for a pitcher!
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 06, 2016, 09:36:44 PM
Every time I have been out there the wind is always blowing out. Take a look at the offensive splits. Wooster is a good offensive team, but that are better at home. OWU's left field had a reputation to before BBCOR bats.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on April 07, 2016, 10:37:52 AM
It's definitely a hitter's park.  I haven't been since they added that turf.  How does that look?  I wasn't sure how the turf infield/grass outfield would look together.  But in Ohio that turf infield has to be a nice feature.  The outfield is so large that I'm sure it's just not cost effective for most D3 schools to do the entire field like OSU.
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Post by: mideastfan2 on April 07, 2016, 11:12:07 AM
Marietta defeated #21 Wooster last night 13-4.  That brings the Pios record vs the NCAC to 2-1 over the last week.

W vs Ohio Wesleyan15-5
L at Denison 3-2 (10 innings).
W vs Wooster 13-4.
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Post by: Pops33 on April 07, 2016, 12:28:45 PM
That's a good week for the Pioneers.  They played 3 of the stronger teams in the NCAC and came out on top.  In yesterday's Marietta-Wooster game, Marietta started Herstine and used 3 of its top relievers.  They definitely brought their "A" pitching staff and it showed.  Wooster started a freshman in his very first appearance of the season.  All of the earned runs scored by Marietta were given up by either that freshman or the other freshman who pitched. So it looks like the two coaching staffs approached the game a little different, although with this rivalry, I know each team badly wants the win.  I listened to the Marietta radio broadcast and tried to catch a little of it on video.  Marietta appeared to play better than Wooster and deserved the solid victory.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 08, 2016, 07:53:31 PM
OWU gets a win in Cleveland,  from old NCAC foe Case Western Reserve. 11-7. They had me worried in the 7th inning when they gave up 7 runs.
They got two back in the 8th. Game only lasted 8 innings. Not sur if it was weather or darkness that shortened the game.
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Post by: ADL70 on April 08, 2016, 08:21:14 PM
Darkness, but according to CWRU's site it's a suspended game, to be completed Sunday in Delaware. Weather permitting.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 08, 2016, 09:37:26 PM
Beat me to it ADL game was changed to suspende. It will be completed Sunday.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 08, 2016, 09:38:09 PM
You going to be there Sunday ADL I was thinking of running up there.
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Post by: ADL70 on April 08, 2016, 09:50:33 PM
I moved to Texas in October.

Edit:  Now it's 11-7 final

DH Sunday. Gheny not making the trip.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 11, 2016, 08:23:15 PM
Yup. And on Sunday, case and OWU split. So OWU takes 2 of 3. The Gators and Bishops play Weds. In Canton at Thurmon Munson stadium, in Canton. game time is 7:00 PM.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on April 12, 2016, 07:54:30 AM
Why the heck are OWU and Gheny playing at Munson?
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 12, 2016, 09:57:14 AM
No Idea. The Gators bailed on the triple header with Case and OWU when it was moved to Littick on Sunday, from Case on Saturday. Munson was probably a compromise. I had been looking forward to this game since the schedule was posted. I do not think I will be driving up though. I watched the Bishops play two or three years ago against Malone, at Munson. We split but It was too cold for me.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 12, 2016, 04:06:53 PM
Oberlin has not played a conference game yet. Here are the standings.

West
Denison 3-0
Wabash  4-2
OWU      2-2
Witt        2-4
Depauw  2-5

East
Wooster 4-2
Kenyon  4-2
Allegheny 2-2
Oberlin 0-0
Hiram 0-4


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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 14, 2016, 11:59:03 AM
OWu beat Allegheny  in Canton last night, 2-0. Not a lot of Offense Allegheny had 5 hits and OWu had 6. But Munson does not exactly help out the offense. The Dimensions kept several fly balls in the park.

Left field 330', center field 400', right field 330'.

OWU's defense played really well to. They turned a 643 double and there were no errors

Wabash swept Witt.
Denison Swept Depauw
OWU was Out of Conference

This puts a lot of pressure on OWU, They need to sweep a series this year to keep pace. They still have Denison, Depauw and Witt to play. I doubt they will sweep Denison, They could sweep Witt or Depauw though.
My predictions for the West right now is,
Denison,
OWU
Wabash
Depauw
Witt.

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Post by: wally_wabash on April 14, 2016, 03:34:47 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 14, 2016, 11:59:03 AM
Wabash swept Witt.

Highlighted here by a 7-inning no-hitter in the first game by Wabash's Bryan Roberts- being reported as the first no-hitter "in modern Wabash baseball history", which I take to mean "since we started keeping good records of baseball games".   Wild to think that there hasn't been a single no-hitter in Wabash baseball history prior to this, but I'm sure our historians are scrambling the jets here to confirm.  First no-hitter or not, this is really cool. 

Maybe my favorite stat from the game: Roberts' 21 outs in the 7-inning game came as such: 7 Ks, 7 GO, 7 FO.  Ah, the things that can amuse me in a baseball boxscore. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 15, 2016, 03:57:17 PM
Ohio ranked 5th in offence as per Massey. They move up to 34 in Masseys rankings.
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2016&sub=11620
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Post by: ADL70 on April 16, 2016, 09:57:21 PM
Wooster swept at home by CWRU 5-4, 13-7. Single game in Cleveland tomorrow.
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Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 18, 2016, 02:14:05 AM
Case beat Wooster a third time today.
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Post by: Pops33 on April 22, 2016, 11:34:34 AM
Big weekend for the conference coming up:

OWU    vs. Denison - Denison continues to look strong and OWU needs to sweep if they want to contend for the top spot in the West
Wooster vs. Hiram - Should be an easy sweep for the Scots but Hiram  is 3-3 in its last 6 NCAC games including a series split with Allegheny
Wabash vs. DePauw - Can the Little Giants continue their good play or will DePauw get back in the race with a big weekend
Oberlin vs. Allegheny - If one of these teams sweep, then they are still in contention if the Scots slip up.


Mu prediction is that both West series will split, Allegheny will take 3 from Oberlin, and the Scots will sweep.

Kenyon and Wittenberg play a 4 game series with no effect on the conference standings.
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Post by: Pops33 on April 26, 2016, 10:57:16 AM
OWU had a good weekend, taking 3 of 4 from Denison.  It looks like they have an easier weekend coming up as well, playing Wittenberg, while Denison plays Wabash.  OWU still has the possibility of winning they West if they sweep and the Big Red splits.  Wabash needs to take 3 from Denison to move into the 3rd spot in the West since I believe Depauw would own the tiebreaker with their recent sweep of the Little Giants.

Wooster swept Hiram as expected, although one game went to extra innings.  They hold a two game lead over both Allegheny and Kenyon, who square off this weekend.  Kenyon and Wooster also play 2 on Wednesday to finish their series from the snowed-out weekend.  If Kenyon should sweep all six games, they will be at least tied for the division lead.  Wooster plays Oberlin this weekend and I am guessing they have it circled on their calendar since the Yeomen upset them for the conference tournament title last year, and from a regional bid.  The Fighting Scots need to win at least 5 of 6 to remove any chance of anyone else winning the East.  The Gators swept Oberlin last weekend to stay in it, but still need Wooster to lose at least two and then they need to sweep Kenyon.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 26, 2016, 11:05:36 AM
The west is still up for grabs. OWU takes three of four from Denison. The only team with no shot is witt, at 2-10 in the NCAC. Depauw cannot be first as they are done with conference play.
OWU plays Witt. This series worries me. A Witt team with nothing to play for, would likely love to play spoiler. OWU needs to get up on the Tigers early and not tske their foot off the throttle.
Wabash and Denison play, A sweep by Wabash and a spilt by Witt/OWU, would give Wabash 1st with 10 wins. And would drop Denison to third.

Pops just beay me to it.

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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 28, 2016, 08:05:01 PM
OWU, ranked third in mideast region, in first ranking, Wooster ranks 5 Denison 8. Not too bad for the NCAC
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 29, 2016, 10:45:39 PM
OWU, sweeps Witt today, and Denison and Wabash split. West will be decided Sunday.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 01, 2016, 06:18:50 PM
OWU wins first game today, and up 9-3, in the 6th. Wabash and Denison commence on Tuesday.

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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 01, 2016, 08:04:44 PM
DePauw has been hot lately. They just took 3 of 4, from Wash U. Pending the Denison Wabash series, they will go to the first or second in the East.
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Post by: Pops33 on May 01, 2016, 08:43:01 PM
In the East, Allegheny took 2 from Kenyon.  The other 2 got washed out and it does not indicate when they will be made up or even if they will be made up.  The Gators have secured the second seed with those two victories, and Kenyon is solidly in third place so those 2 games do not matter for the standings.

Wooster swept Oberlin with 4 complete games from their pitchers, allowing 2 runs, 2 runs, 1 run, and then a shutout.  When is the last time an NCAC team (or any team) can say they only used four pitchers in a weekend 4-game series.  The Scots secured the #1 seed in the East for the crossover series, and Oberlin gets the #4 seed in the East.

All eyes (especially those in Delaware) will be on the Denison-Wabash series to see what the matchups will be for next weekend.
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Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 01, 2016, 11:21:00 PM
I sure hope that Ohio Wesleyan wins the NCAC tourney.  They're one of only three teams ranked ahead of us regionally.

We need for them to win and get an automatic bid in order to help improve our chances of getting an at large bid.

GO OHIO WESLEYAN!!!!
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 01, 2016, 11:28:52 PM
Thanks Dagarman, I am sure the Bishops appreciate the support.
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Post by: Pops33 on May 03, 2016, 10:16:21 AM
Congratulations to both Mike Wielansky from Wooster and Joe Killian from Allegheny on being named to the D3Baseball.com team of the week.



http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/team-of-the-week/2016/week12 (http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/team-of-the-week/2016/week12)


http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/D3BB-TOTW

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on May 06, 2016, 10:27:14 AM
The NCAC post season starts this weekend with the cross-over series.  Best 2 out of 3 with the winners heading to the double elimination tournament in Chillicothe next weekend.  Kenyon and OWU start today with the rest of the series starting tomorrow.

Kenyon    @   Ohio Wesleyan
DePauw    @   Allegheny       
Wabash    @   Wooster       
Oberlin    @   Denison       
   
The series to determine 9th & 10th place:
Hiram    @   Wittenberg   

Obviously the home teams are the favorites.  The visiting teams all have a couple of pitchers that could steal a game from the favorite and make for a very interesting series.  The West has 4 of the 5 best team ERAs in the conference with DePauw being the league leader.  The four home teams have the best offensive stats on the year in the conference.  It should be an exciting weekend.

Let the games begin!
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 06, 2016, 10:50:08 AM
I agree. The only problem I have with the Tourney is that I wish they would reseed after the Cross over.
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Post by: Pops33 on May 06, 2016, 11:58:47 AM
 The East finished the exact same way as last year and the Denison and DePauw just switched #1 & #3 in the West.  So if Oberlin pulls another upset and the other favorites win their series, it will be exactly the same bracket in Chillicothe as last year. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 06, 2016, 02:39:40 PM
Yes and if Wabash some how beats wooster they will jump OWU, if they win and become a number one. Makes the regular season all abut the cross over series and not the tournament. I would prefer if they reseeded based on the Regular season after the Cross over.
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Post by: Whats a Yeomen on May 07, 2016, 02:52:23 PM
Yeomen take the first game against Denison 3-2.

Denison had runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out in the bottom of the 9th.  Batter hits a high chopper back to the pitcher, run down between home and third leads to a tag out and then the batter was thrown out trying to take second for a game ending double play.
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Post by: old scot on May 07, 2016, 06:35:52 PM
Woo beats bash 3-0 and 23-9. Gets a spot in the NCAC playoffs. This cross over series is garbage. Top 2 in the east and west should meet in the tourney. Not like TV money has an influence on prolonging the tourney.  Only thing that could happened is a lesser team having a hot weekend to take down a better team.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 08, 2016, 09:28:16 PM
Looks like the field is set. For the first time since the cross over began, 3 West teams will be in the tourney.
Wooster v.s OWU.
Denison Vs. DePauw.

Depauw is on a hot streak, so They should not be taken for granted. Gool luck.
GO Bishops.....
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Post by: Pops33 on May 09, 2016, 04:18:04 PM
It looks like they will not be jamming the tournament into just days like last year.  Denison has graduation on Saturday and if they make the championship round, teh championship games will be played on Sunday instead of Saturday so the Denison student-athletes can enjoy their graduation ceremony.  This is a much better solution than the possibility of someone having to play 5, 9-inning games in 2 days, to win the tournament out of the loser's bracket.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on May 09, 2016, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 07, 2016, 06:35:52 PM
Woo beats bash 3-0 and 23-9. Gets a spot in the NCAC playoffs. This cross over series is garbage. Top 2 in the east and west should meet in the tourney. Not like TV money has an influence on prolonging the tourney.  Only thing that could happened is a lesser team having a hot weekend to take down a better team.

I'm certainly not a huge fan of the crossover stuff, but isn't someone making the tourney based purely on geography garbage as well?  There were numerous years where the #2 in the east was not good.  At all.  The #3 or #4 in the west would have beat them easily, but they got to go only because someone from the east besides Woo had to go too.  The NCAC always circles back to the problem that the ideal situation competitively (full round robin) is not feasible practically.  I give them credit for at least trying to figure out another way aside from just top 2 from each half.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 09, 2016, 05:47:33 PM
+1 Doc,
The cross over is not the best alternative, but the best alternative was tried and immediately removed, after one year. If Wooster doesn't like the cross over, they could pound the drum for round robin.
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Post by: old scot on May 12, 2016, 06:03:54 PM
Woo takes down OWU in the first round of the NCAC playoffs
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Post by: Pops33 on May 13, 2016, 08:31:00 AM
I was surprised that OWU started Zullo in the first game after Munger was their #1 starter for most of the season.  Wooster got the best of him and scored in each of the first three innings.  Wielansky then hit a monster 3 run blast in the 5th inning to knock him out of the game.

In the second game, DePauw scored one in the first and 4 in the second to take control of the game.  As BLD indicated, DePauw has been hot lately and they showed it by taking down #1 seed Denison. 

Wooster-DePauw game today at noon.  Guessing it will be Saran vs. Futterknecht.  Interesting note is that Futterknecht pitched 6 shutout innings against Wooster in the championship game 2 years ago to give DePauw the conference title.

Rivals Denison and OWU will follow at 4 pm in an elimination game.
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Post by: NCACfan22 on May 13, 2016, 03:50:11 PM
Depauw walks off Wooster in the 11th. Puts Wooster in a very tough place for tomorrow. Maybe Wooster just isn't a "postseason" team...struggles in Chillicothe continue
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Post by: old scot on May 14, 2016, 03:53:24 PM
Scots beat Tigers 5-1. Final game of the NCAC tourney starts at 4:00 PM. Winner takes the title. Go Scots
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Post by: wooscotsfan on May 14, 2016, 10:46:20 PM
Wooster completes the sweep of DePauw today by winning the second game 10-5, clinching the NCAC title and the NCAA automatic bid. :)

Denison and Ohio Wesleyan will have to wait and see if they receive an at-large bid when the NCAA field is announced on Monday.

GO SCOTS!
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Post by: Pops33 on May 16, 2016, 09:24:52 AM
Congratulations to Wooster for winning the conference tournament and securing the automatic bid.  Also, congrats to OWU for getting an at-large bid.  Good luck to both in the Mid-East Regional.  Let's have another great showing for the NCAC!
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 16, 2016, 11:01:33 AM
I would like to congratulate all Seniors on all teams. It is an amazing feat to finish up 4 years of playing college baseball at an NCAC institution. You all should be proud. It does not make a difference if you were a four year started or a spot/bench player in your senior year. I am proud of each and everyone.

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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 16, 2016, 11:05:12 AM
I was really surprised when OWU received a pool B bid. I have to thank Wooster for winning the tournament, after OWU was eliminated. Good luck to both in the regional. Congrats to former NCAC member Case Western reserve for making the tournament as well.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 17, 2016, 02:51:27 PM
I was a little surprised by OWU getting in also.  I thought they had a decent shot a week ago, but I was afraid their NCAC tournament showing would doom them.  They did not look good in either game really.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 17, 2016, 04:54:20 PM
Yeah, Dr. I am hoping they can turn it around quickly.
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Post by: wooscotsfan on May 18, 2016, 08:05:54 PM
Day 1 Results of the NCAA Tourney:

TCNJ 10  Ohio Wesleyan 0    Bishops play Widener tomorrow

Wooster 8  Johns Hopkins 5   Scots also play tomorrow against the winner of the Randolph-Macon vs. St. Joseph matchup
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Post by: Dr. Acula on May 19, 2016, 11:54:56 AM
OWU was shut out, but they had 11 hits yesterday.  That's maddening when you just can't seem to push one across when you're getting hits.  Today though they are just not getting much done against Widener.  Down 7-0 in the 7th with only 2 base hits.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on May 19, 2016, 02:08:31 PM
Hey BLD, I am confused by the pitching for OWU.  The guys who I thought were their 1 and 2 both pitched today?  I just looked at the box score from yesterday and was surprised Zullo or Munger didn't start yesterday.
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Post by: Wooster Booster on May 19, 2016, 07:09:13 PM
Is there any place that has the regional brackets and moves the teams along showing the scores?  I can find the scores here but no brackets.  The NCAA has the original brackets but seems to be leaving them just like that. :(
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Post by: ADL70 on May 20, 2016, 12:12:57 AM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 19, 2016, 07:09:13 PM
Is there any place that has the regional brackets and moves the teams along showing the scores?  I can find the scores here but no brackets.  The NCAA has the original brackets but seems to be leaving them just like that. :(

Go here:  http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2016/2016-playoffs

Scroll down to the preview of the region you are interested in and enter the preview.  You will see what you are looking for.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 21, 2016, 02:09:59 PM
Woullard threw 142 pitches today.  He threw 70 on Wednesday in relief in their first game.  Good grief. It's like clockwork.  Death, taxes and Pettorini's NCAA pitching moves.
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Post by: Wooster Booster on May 21, 2016, 04:32:42 PM
After a long rain delay, Wooster holds on to win 5-3 over TCNJ.  They'll now play LaRouche at 5:15 for the right to try to beat Randolph-Macon twice in a row.  If Wooster beats LaRouche, that would be the last game tonight.  If LaRouche wins, the plan was for them to play R-M once tonight, but that was before this weather issue, and they've not announced if there will be a change.

Regarding the pitch counts, I'm sure Pettorini isn't alone in this, but that certainly doesn't make it right.  The NCAA certainly has to stand for some blame, because they know that these college staffs, especially at the lower levels, don't have much pitching depth.  They also know that the games can be high scoring.  Yet, especially if teams get into the losers' bracket, teams have to play every day, and often twice a day.  Stretching these tournaments out would be the right thing to do, but don't count on it.
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Post by: old scot on May 21, 2016, 06:31:33 PM
Dr. A. What would you do. Your trying to get to the World Series. When your in the losers bracket you have to do everything you can to reach your goal. Is it right. No. Pettorini is not the only coach that has spurred his horses. WB has it right. Its an NCAA problem with the tournament format.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on May 21, 2016, 11:31:21 PM
It's a no win situation for Pettorini or any other coach.  I agree 100% that the goal is to win the regional and doing so through the losers bracket is a mountain to climb.  The other ingredient is that I'm certain Woullard, a senior I think, probably campaigned both for the start and to stay in.  Barring an injury any senior would.  It's your last shot. It puts the coach in a tough spot.  All I can say is if it had Mount I would have been much more emphatic in my criticism.  Different kids have different tolerances, but to me anything north of 120 is starting to get into a murky area. And that's on full rest.  I certainly don't think Pettorini is out of line.  In fact, he's probably in the majority.  But as a former pitcher I just personally disagree with that number for a kid that threw 70 pitches on Wednesday.  Just my $0.02.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on May 23, 2016, 01:37:26 PM
Good showing by Wooster in the Mid East Regional tournament.  Winning 3 games and finishing 3rd.  I am sure they had their sights set higher, and I bet they want a do-over on that Randolph Macon game.  Saran pitched a heck of a game, but the bats could not pull that one out.  Congratulations to the Fighting Scots on another conference title and another very good season.  With lots of returning players, they should field another very good team in 2017.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 23, 2016, 05:08:07 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 21, 2016, 02:09:59 PM
Woullard threw 142 pitches today.  He threw 70 on Wednesday in relief in their first game.  Good grief. It's like clockwork.  Death, taxes and Pettorini's NCAA pitching moves.

Wednesday to Saturday isn't *that* ridiculous. If he had thrown 40-50 on Wednesday it wouldn't even raise an eyebrow.

It's not like he threw the same guy 2 days in a row. He's done that before.

And nothing is wrong with the tournament format. Recruit more pitchers that can pitch. It's not like that's a new problem for Wooster. If you extend out the tournament, you completely change the challenge. You can win D1 on basically 2 starting pitchers now, with a 3rd maybe needed for 1-2 starts in the entire NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on June 03, 2016, 12:34:40 PM
Wooster finished 17th in the final d3baseball.com poll.  http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2016/2016Top25-week-final (http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2016/2016Top25-week-final).  They are the only NCAC team that received votes.  Nice to see Wooster get a little respect and move up 9 spots from the last poll.  They had a solid regional, but let one slip away versus #8 Randolph Macon.

Other Mid-East region teams in the top 25 are LaRoche #5 and Rose Hulman #24.  Others receiving votes (in order of total votes) Thomas More, Marietta, Otterbein, and Case Western Reserve.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 08, 2016, 10:19:09 PM
Who will the new coach at Witt be? Jay just left to be AD at st Paris Graham.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on June 09, 2016, 11:00:01 AM
It will be interesting to see which assistant or current head coaches throw their hats in the ring for consideration.  Although it is not on campus, they do have an outstanding stadium which would be very attractive to any potential candidate.  It would also be an excellent recruiting tool.

http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/information/facilities/Carleton-Davidson-Stadium/index (http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/information/facilities/Carleton-Davidson-Stadium/index)
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Post by: Dr. Acula on June 09, 2016, 04:03:51 PM
They should get some very nice candidates.  It's a good job.  Nice facilities, a very pro-athletics administration and a good location relative to metro areas for recruiting.  It's definitely a place you can win.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 10, 2016, 02:16:04 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on June 09, 2016, 04:03:51 PM
They should get some very nice candidates.  It's a good job.  Nice facilities, a very pro-athletics administration and a good location relative to metro areas for recruiting.  It's definitely a place you can win.
I find it strange that they are loosing so many coaches at the same time. I know baseball has been down for a few years. Basketball was not quite as good as they have been in the past last season. (that may be a blip on the radar and not indicative of anything.) Could this be a sign that the bond rating downgrade that Witt received several years ago is finally coming home to roost? One if the findings from that downgrade was that they give out too much aid. Has Witt rolled back on the Aid provided to students, making Witt less competitive when recruiting students. (note the students and not athletes).
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on June 10, 2016, 04:05:31 PM
I can't blame Jay for leaving.  High school AD jobs are tough to come by and that gets you into STRS.  And it's far fewer hours than being a college HC.  I don't know his family situation, but you and your family have to give up a lot to coach at the college level.  Look at Matt Palm.  He built Berg into a really nice program and walked away to spend more time with his family.

I didn't hear about the basketball coach.  Not sure where he went or why. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 10, 2016, 04:26:13 PM
I do not blame anyone for bettering their situation. I can understand changing jobs to spend more time with family. I have done it myself. I just thought it was a bit coincidental that the BBall coaches leave at the same time and the recent records at both programs.
Witt has been middle of the road in baseball as long as I have been paying attention. They would usually finish 3 or 4 the west. occasionally higher. For many years it was always OWU,Denison, and Witt as the top 3 in the west, Then you had Wabash and Earlham. The last couple of years though, Witt has been just plain bad in baseball. They have been losing many recruits to Otterbein, the last couple of years and some of the other schools in mid Ohio.  Witts roster used to have quite a few very talented players from central Ohio, but those numbers have dwindle. They still have players from around here but they are many times they are second tier guys. 
I know swapping Depauw for Earlham (even though Earlham was very good this year) has shuffled the power in the west, but I did not think Witt would take such a dive. I hope they get a coach soon because this is prime recruiting time. Not so much for calling players but for identifying rising seniors. If they have to wait till the fall they will behind the eight ball.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Joe Wally on June 14, 2016, 10:34:10 AM
Cory Stevens has resigned from his position as the manager of the Wabash baseball team after ten years in charge.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on June 14, 2016, 11:02:32 AM
Some new blood at Wabash may be a good thing.  That should be another job that draws some nice candidates. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 14, 2016, 01:09:58 PM
He did a nice job there and took a leadership role in the NCAC in general. I wish him well. He was one of the first to recruit my son. I know the last couple of years has been tough. He brought in a huge freshman class last year. They should be pretty good in not to long.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 14, 2016, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: Joe Wally on June 14, 2016, 10:34:10 AM
Cory Stevens has resigned from his position as the manager of the Wabash baseball team after ten years in charge.
Any idea what he is doing now? Is he going to continue with Baseball.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Joe Wally on June 14, 2016, 01:28:48 PM
The article I saw indicated that he intended to stay in baseball.

http://www.journalreview.com/sports/article_fe04ae66-31d3-11e6-8738-f3f3434b9d1e.html (http://www.journalreview.com/sports/article_fe04ae66-31d3-11e6-8738-f3f3434b9d1e.html)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 14, 2016, 03:36:17 PM
Quote from: Joe Wally on June 14, 2016, 01:28:48 PM
The article I saw indicated that he intended to stay in baseball.

http://www.journalreview.com/sports/article_fe04ae66-31d3-11e6-8738-f3f3434b9d1e.html (http://www.journalreview.com/sports/article_fe04ae66-31d3-11e6-8738-f3f3434b9d1e.html)
Looks like he may want to coach with out all the recruiting involved. No offense to Wabash but it cannot be an easy place to recruit for. Baseball does not have the history of success that the football program can. My son liked the idea of a all male school and was very close to going there. It was not Coach Stevens that was the issue. In the end he made the right decision with OWU.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 14, 2016, 03:40:30 PM
But not a good time of the year to be looking for a new coach. D3 recruiting does not start in earnest until later in the summer or early fall, but that is coming fast. I wonder how long Witt and Wabash will take for the search.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on June 14, 2016, 03:49:27 PM
It looks like he was a high school HC and teacher prior to being at Wabash.  I'm sure with 10 years of college HC experience he can land just about any high school HC job he wants.  Maybe he'd like to focus on teaching and coaching rather than recruiting so much.  Good luck to him whatever he decides.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on June 14, 2016, 08:44:04 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on June 10, 2016, 02:16:04 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on June 09, 2016, 04:03:51 PM
They should get some very nice candidates.  It's a good job.  Nice facilities, a very pro-athletics administration and a good location relative to metro areas for recruiting.  It's definitely a place you can win.
I find it strange that they are loosing so many coaches at the same time. I know baseball has been down for a few years. Basketball was not quite as good as they have been in the past last season. (that may be a blip on the radar and not indicative of anything.) Could this be a sign that the bond rating downgrade that Witt received several years ago is finally coming home to roost? One if the findings from that downgrade was that they give out too much aid. Has Witt rolled back on the Aid provided to students, making Witt less competitive when recruiting students. (note the students and not athletes).

I finally got around to reading the article on Witt's basketball coach.  He resigned simply because they're moving to Indy for his wife's career.  He still wants to coach although it said probably as an assistant due to his desire for them to put his wife's career first. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 14, 2016, 09:17:27 PM
Ahh makes sense.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: sigma one on July 07, 2016, 12:27:42 PM
Wabash announced this morning that Jake Martin is the college's head baseball coach.  Martin, a Wabash alumnus and former pitcher for the Little Giants, has been the head coach at DePauw University.  He replaces Cory Stevens, who resigned in June. 
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Post by: Dr. Acula on July 07, 2016, 03:05:58 PM
You get an alum and good coach AND he just so happens to be DPU's HC?  That seems like the perfect hire for Wabash!  Hire a good coach and screw the Dannies at the same time. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 07, 2016, 05:12:42 PM
Great mobe by Wabash. Thay got a good coach. I believe he will do well there. It will add more to the rivalry.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 11, 2016, 10:47:02 PM
OWU lands st. Ed's Ryan Ashdown.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SEHS_BASEBALL/status/752527233818828800/photo/1

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on July 21, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
I have seen rumblings on Twitter that Brian McGee (head coach at Div II Lake Erie College since 2007) has accepted the Wittenberg coaching position.  Nothing official has been announced yet, but it was also mentioned in this article about one of his players who recently got drafted. http://www.news-herald.com/sports/20160720/lucas-raley-settling-into-life-as-dodgers-prospect
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on July 21, 2016, 04:50:15 PM
That's certainly interesting.  McGee is a NE Ohio guy who has 7 years HC at the D2 level.  And it's not like Lake Erie is terrible.  They're competitive in the GLIAC.  My hunch is that LEC doesn't have much in the way of financial resources though.  Witt undoubtedly has much deeper pockets.  It's just odd to see someone move back down a division and it not be for a top job, to move home, etc. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on July 22, 2016, 07:46:40 AM
Even though Lake Erie College is a Div II program, the difference in facilities is quite significant.  Lake Erie uses a public park as their home field, which is also used by the local high school and local recreation leagues.  It is a sub-par collegiate field and I am guessing it would be a detriment to recruiting as well as to the college baseball experience.  Comparing that to the palace the Wittenberg plays at, one can deduce that the athletic department at Wittenberg supports their coaches and teams in a significantly better fashion.  I have also heard directly from athletes in other sports at Lake Erie that the support from the administration is lacking.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on July 22, 2016, 10:13:57 AM
I've been to LEC.  Quite frankly, I don't know how they convince anyone to go there.  That might be a testament to his recruiting ability!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 22, 2016, 06:47:29 PM
He recruited my son to walk om at LEC. Son really  liked McGee. LEC used t be d3, before  he wa d there. We talked about thay. He said je would not voach at d3. So if he takes the kob, I'll find it humorous.
Hne would be a heck of a get for Witt. He can recruit. Son did not like the school.  And everything seemed run down.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 12, 2016, 04:18:22 PM
Depauw named new head coach to replace Jake Martin.
http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2016/08/Allen-returns-to-depauw
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 12, 2016, 04:23:47 PM
As Pops hinted earlier McGee will be new head coach for Witt Baseball.

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2016/08/mcgee-takes-the-tigers-reins
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 24, 2016, 10:38:59 PM
Wabash has their 2017 schedule posted.
http://sports.wabash.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 22, 2016, 01:37:09 PM
The Ohio Wesleyan Battling Bishops will be competing in the Snowbird Classic during Spring Break again this year.
http://snowbirdbaseball.info/tournament-info/2017-participating-teams/

Wooster and Denison are also competing as well.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 24, 2016, 06:10:56 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to all my d3 friends. I am thankful for my family and friends, especially my wife, who brought 3 boys and baseball into my life.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 29, 2016, 02:52:54 PM
Looks like Wabash is joining Oberlin in teams heading west for spring Break. Wabash will be in Tuscon, 3-4 to 3-11. I am interested to see who they play against out there. 
http://sports.wabash.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

Oberlin will be out there 3-18 to 3-22

http://www.goyeo.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 29, 2016, 03:01:16 PM
Depauw is heading south. They do not take a standard spring trip like most schools. They are going down to Millington TN. at USA stadium to play a couple of games, then heading over to rhodes and then Greenville.

http://depauwtigers.com/sports/bsb/2016-17/schedule
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 29, 2016, 03:05:47 PM
Here is Denisons unofficial schedule.
http://denisonbigred.com/sports/bsb/2016-17/schedule
I do not see any spring trips but I believe they will be going to the snowbird classic. They are listed on the http://Snowbirdbaseball.info as a participating team.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 29, 2016, 03:10:22 PM
No Spring trip listed on Witts schedule.

http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/sports/bsb/2016-17/schedule

May be because the late coaching change. Hopefully they put one together. The last few years they have played some really bad teams on their trip.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 29, 2016, 03:11:45 PM
No schedule yet for the Bishops. It looks like they are also scheduled to go to the snowbird classic.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 29, 2016, 03:15:01 PM
Wooster probably takes the award for how far the school goes to recruit. Ryan Farrell a Freshman SS, hails from the American School in London, England.
http://woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2016-17/bios/farrell_ryan_rmkp
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 19, 2017, 07:15:36 PM
Practice gear for OWU is in. I hope they stick with the classic W of the last couple of years on the cap though.

https://mobile.twitter.com/OWUbaseball1/status/822209196473090048/photo/1
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 19, 2017, 07:23:51 PM
A sad loss for for baseball.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Coach1984/status/822116981667139584

So sorry to hear we lost a dear friend, awesome gentleman and OWU Hall of Fame baseball player Glenn Butterman this week. #owugreat
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Post by: Pops33 on January 23, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
Starting in 2018 the NCAC will go to a more complete Round Robin format.  I do not know the exact parameters, but I found the 2018 league schedule on the NCAC website.  They will also be playing some mid-week league games and NO cross over series the weekend before the conference tournament.  The link to the future schedules is below.

http://www.northcoast.org/mediacenter/Future_Schedules/Baseball/2018-21_NCAC_Baseball_Round_Robin_Schedules_-_Approved_-1-16-17-.pdf

I would like to hear more details if anyone is aware of them.  Will they play just a DH versus everyone?  Will there still be an East and West division?

It should make for an interesting schedule.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on January 23, 2017, 12:27:59 PM
That looks a lot like a full round robin of DH to me.  The geography of the NCAC schools and the uncertainty of OH spring weather always make this a risky proposition.  From a competitive standpoint it's a no brainer.  Everyone plays everyone.  You rotate home and away each year.  What could be more fair?  But maybe someone who remembers better can remind us...hasn't this been attempted more than once?  It's a LONG haul from Allegheny to DPU or Wabash.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 23, 2017, 02:06:46 PM
yes this was attempted several years ago, but week ends only/ You would play a double header against Wabash on Saturday then a DH against Depauw on Sunday. Ther was no midweek games and one rainout played havoc with the schedule.
Allegheny and Wooster were tied, but they were rained out. Allegheny found a field and tried to get a reschedule.  Wooster refused so it went coin flip and Wooster won.
The next year it went back to the East west format, and a year later the cross over began.

I like this because it leaves Sundays open for make ups. You can also schedule games with out of conference foes. However if you have to have a makeup, you cancel the OOC game. Very similar to how the OAC does it.
The only problems I see with this is you lose some of those OOC games during the week. It will also force Kenyon to play during the week. Kenyon and Oberlin (they may have changed) do not play games during the week once they get back from Spring break. And some of the teams have 3 Away games in a row, each and every year this is in place.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 23, 2017, 02:13:28 PM
Hopefully they will play Big Boy games and do 2 9's instead of a 7 and a 9. I doubt it though. And Pops33 +1 for the find.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 23, 2017, 04:34:03 PM
Too bad it is still one 7 and one 9
http://www.northcoast.org/mediacenter/Future_Schedules/2017-20_NCAC_Baseball_Schedule.pdf
check out page 2
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 23, 2017, 06:57:40 PM
Those 2018 schedules aren't the same?  That one is still the old format not a round robin.  It's old (2015).  The round robin one is marked as approved this year.  Maybe they changed the 7-9 thing too?
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 23, 2017, 08:28:43 PM
Maybe but that pdf has a page per year through 2021. Odd.
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Post by: Pops33 on January 24, 2017, 07:22:39 AM
I agree with Dr. Acula.  The schedules that show the 7 and inning games was approved in 2015.  The schedule showing the round robin format was just approved on 1/16/17.  The new schedule shows games that are not listed on the one approved in 2015, so it appears that they threw the old one out the window and re-formatted the entire schedule.  With just 2 games against each opponent, I am sure the coaches in the top half of the league would argue for the longer games.  Especially since that replicates the conference and regional tournaments.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 24, 2017, 08:54:17 AM
I really dislike the 7-9 format.  The year that Mount won the OAC tournament (2013?) one big reason why was because Zach Carlino, who won OAC pitcher of the year, always pitched the 7 and nearly always went the distance.  I don't like giving that big of an advantage to a team.  If they can go 9 that's fine.  You're either a horse or you're pitching efficiently.  I'm fine with either.  But you don't have to do either to throw 7.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 24, 2017, 10:12:56 AM
I agree that it was probably thrown out and redone. The one item that caught my I that I do not remember seeing in the past, Is the Easter exception. I did not remember previous years including the line that if the game is played on a Friday, it would be considered a week day game. I am not sure what the difference would be between a weekday game and a weekend game.
But I see now that it is also on the 2017 schedule which probably means it was always there before. I will have to see if I can previous schedules and see if the wording is the same. The NCAC can be very sloppy with there documentation.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 24, 2017, 10:16:42 AM
I agree I dislike the 7-9 inning games. The number one almost always pitches those games and you are right, it gives a big advantage to the team with a guy that can go 7 inning no sweat. A couple of years ago, in OWU's bad year, Our number one guy could never go 7 innings, and it really hurt us for the other games during the weekend. OWU went 13-26 that year.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 13, 2017, 08:00:10 PM
Owu roster is out. 14 incomming freshman.
http://www.battlingbishops.com/mobile/roster.aspx?roster=145&path=baseball
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 17, 2017, 02:17:24 PM
Coaches poll is out
http://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/2016-17/releases/preseasonpoll
Wooster in First. No surprise there they are going to be really good this year. Any surprises for anybody else?
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Post by: Pops33 on February 17, 2017, 03:25:56 PM
I think Allegheny is the 3rd best team in the conference, instead of 5th.  However, only 3 points separates the 3-5 spots so it is not a major difference or a surprise in the poll.  The top five teams are usually there every year, so I guess the poll is no surprise.  The interesting thing will be to see if the 3 coaching changes in the West have an immediate impact on their team's performance.
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Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2017, 12:46:01 AM
I thought OWU lost too much to be up that high -- the order I mentioned teams in my Mideast Region preview is my de facto predicted order of finish. I don't pretend to know more about NCAC baseball than the NCAC coaches do, however.

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/mideast-preview
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 18, 2017, 10:16:27 AM
Yes OWU lost a lot. Pitching is going to be interesting. But Mott always seems to find a Freshman pitcher that can contribute. Zullo, Munger, Ray, and Cooper are examples over the last 6 years. I am very interested about the SS position. Replacing bats from last year will be tough as well. Many of the players that graduated started three or 4 years.
We will now see who will step up and lead. Stolly is probably a good choice. The players clearly respect him. Their are players who have been waiting their turn, let's see if they perform. I still see OWU in the top four. I do not believe they will be behind Kenyon.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 18, 2017, 10:27:39 AM
I think Jake Martin at Wabash will make a big impact. They were showing promise last year. He recruited my son and I was always impressed. I am not sure how much time he had to recruit. I don't know much about DePauw's new coach, but he has an impressive resume.
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Post by: Pops33 on February 22, 2017, 08:48:11 PM
Rumor has it that the NCAC will change the length of their conference games this year.  The last couple of years, they played a 7 inning game, followed by a 9 inning game on both Saturday and Sunday.  This year, I heard that will change to all four games being 9 inning games.  If this is truly the case, it will really test the depth of the pitching staffs in the NCAC.  It is just a difference of 2 innings a day and 4 innings a weekend, but I envision some very long games on Sunday afternoon. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 22, 2017, 10:03:30 PM
And high scoring. I am glad they are finally playing big boy baseball. 
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Post by: Dr. Acula on February 24, 2017, 12:45:22 PM
Is it then safe to assume that the full round robin will be a pair of 9's?

By the way, BLD I am not sure how I feel about OWU going with that Nationals 'W' logo.  It's a cool logo, but it seems like everyone is using it right now.  I guess if the players like it that's all that matters though. 
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Post by: Pops33 on February 24, 2017, 01:22:00 PM
DePauw opens its season today vs. Greenville.  Wabash (Transylvania) and Allegheny (John Carroll) open tomorrow with the 1st 2 games of a 3 game series.  DePauw also plays Mary Hardin-Baylor and Rhodes for a total of 3 games this weekend.

Time to play some ball. ;D
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 24, 2017, 07:34:35 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on February 24, 2017, 12:45:22 PM
Is it then safe to assume that the full round robin will be a pair of 9's?

By the way, BLD I am not sure how I feel about OWU going with that Nationals 'W' logo.  It's a cool logo, but it seems like everyone is using it right now.  I guess if the players like it that's all that matters though. 
They have used for a while now. The last two years they have gone withbthe old school Black Block W on a red cap. I much prefer that. I hope the stick with it. The players I have talked to prefer the red cap and block W.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 27, 2017, 12:52:31 PM
Wabash Lost 2 of three from transy, in close games before laying the beat down Saturday and Sunday:
6-8  -   http://sports.wabash.edu/boxscore.aspx?path=baseball&id=1630
11-12 - http://sports.wabash.edu/boxscore.aspx?path=baseball&id=1631
23-2 - http://sports.wabash.edu/boxscore.aspx?path=baseball&id=1632

It is early and Coach Martin probably still needs to get some things worked out. Team is still very young. In game one they started 5 Soph.I did not take the time to look at the other lineups.

The gators split with John Carrol 10-11 and 6-7

Depauws record stands at 3-0 with wins against Rhodes, 7-5, MHB 11-4, and Greenville 6-5.

OWU had a scrimmage against Ohio Dominican. And starts play March 04 against Marietta.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 28, 2017, 10:20:22 PM
OWU will ive stream some of their games this year starting with Capital  on Mar 8.

https://www.owu.edu/about/follow-owu/stream-owu/
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Post by: Pops33 on March 01, 2017, 10:20:21 AM
Nice!  I see more and more schools that are doing this.  It is unfortunate that some of them charge you to watch the game online.  Hopefully, OWU will not fall into this category as I am looking forward to seeing how they replace the seniors from last year.  Will it be a rebuild or a reload?
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 01, 2017, 07:39:56 PM
Thanks Pops, I will go to what games that I can. I still know a couple of players on the team. However it will be nice to know I can watch as well. OWU  does not charge for any of their other sports, so I doubt they do for baseball. I am anxious to see if it is a quality. Broadcast. And who will announce.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2017, 05:24:44 PM
OWU starts on 3-4 in Marietta. Just a few days away, I hope the weather cooperates.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2017, 10:09:48 PM
OWU season preview is out.
http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2017/3/3/BA_2017pre_1.aspx
A junior and a freshman vie for the vacant starting SS. They did lose a lot but they still have some rounds in the chamber.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2017, 02:23:13 PM
OWU at Marrietta postponed, they will try again tomorrow.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2017, 02:25:21 PM
Denison leading Manchester 4-0.
http://www.northcoast.org/links/v5mh7k
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2017, 04:06:52 PM
Denisons lead against manchester up to 16-2.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 04, 2017, 06:50:51 PM
Does Allegheny not go on spring break for another 2 weeks??  I was looking at their schedule and they're playing Case now and then don't play again for ages. 

Also, unrelated but I am watching the game against Case and the Spartans are sporting quite possible the worst uniforms I've seen.  Navy jerseys with navy pants.  They look like a freaking softball team!  Just terrible. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2017, 06:59:59 PM
Dr. I don't know abou Gheny's schedule. HoweverbI want to give you a plus one for the uniform comment, but I already got you once today, and I cannot for another 24 hours.
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Post by: ADL70 on March 05, 2017, 10:30:03 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 04, 2017, 06:50:51 PM
Does Allegheny not go on spring break for another 2 weeks??  I was looking at their schedule and they're playing Case now and then don't play again for ages. 

Also, unrelated but I am watching the game against Case and the Spartans are sporting quite possible the worst uniforms I've seen.  Navy jerseys with navy pants.  They look like a freaking softball team!  Just terrible.

That's what the 'Gheny guy said in the broadcast. Another schedule quirk has CWRU starting the season with 19 straight away or neutral site games. First home game is March 31.

About the unis, to my eyes, I like them better than navy over white pants, but do like navy over dark gray which they have worn.  I'd prefer traditional white /gray  unis, but that ship sailed long ago. These mimic the football team's.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 05, 2017, 01:04:18 PM
OWU losing to Marietta 3-0.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 06, 2017, 08:44:03 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on March 05, 2017, 10:30:03 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 04, 2017, 06:50:51 PM
Does Allegheny not go on spring break for another 2 weeks??  I was looking at their schedule and they're playing Case now and then don't play again for ages. 

Also, unrelated but I am watching the game against Case and the Spartans are sporting quite possible the worst uniforms I've seen.  Navy jerseys with navy pants.  They look like a freaking softball team!  Just terrible.

That's what the 'Gheny guy said in the broadcast. Another schedule quirk has CWRU starting the season with 19 straight away or neutral site games. First home game is March 31.

About the unis, to my eyes, I like them better than navy over white pants, but do like navy over dark gray which they have worn.  I'd prefer traditional white /gray  unis, but that ship sailed long ago. These mimic the football team's.

I'm with you.  I'd prefer white/gray, but I've always been a traditionalist even as a player.  I despised our purple/black jerseys.  Although I will say teams now have much nicer color jerseys than we did.  Nicer quality I mean.  That helps.

Also, this discussion had me remembering Wooster's gold jerseys.  Those are gross too.
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Post by: Jim Dixon on March 06, 2017, 01:06:47 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 06, 2017, 08:44:03 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on March 05, 2017, 10:30:03 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 04, 2017, 06:50:51 PM
Does Allegheny not go on spring break for another 2 weeks??  I was looking at their schedule and they're playing Case now and then don't play again for ages. 

Also, unrelated but I am watching the game against Case and the Spartans are sporting quite possible the worst uniforms I've seen.  Navy jerseys with navy pants.  They look like a freaking softball team!  Just terrible.

That's what the 'Gheny guy said in the broadcast. Another schedule quirk has CWRU starting the season with 19 straight away or neutral site games. First home game is March 31.

About the unis, to my eyes, I like them better than navy over white pants, but do like navy over dark gray which they have worn.  I'd prefer traditional white /gray  unis, but that ship sailed long ago. These mimic the football team's.

I'm with you.  I'd prefer white/gray, but I've always been a traditionalist even as a player.  I despised our purple/black jerseys.  Although I will say teams now have much nicer color jerseys than we did.  Nicer quality I mean.  That helps.

Also, this discussion had me remembering Wooster's gold jerseys.  Those are gross too.

I am thinking of renaming this thread fashion police.  I have to agree a return to the grey pants would be an improvement.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 12, 2017, 05:51:20 PM
I saw Hiram went 7-3 in FL and I was about to come on here and give them some love.  But then I looked at their schedule and saw who they played.  7-3 against that schedule is probably not any cause for celebration.
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Post by: Jim Dixon on March 13, 2017, 10:38:55 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 12, 2017, 05:51:20 PM
I saw Hiram went 7-3 in FL and I was about to come on here and give them some love.  But then I looked at their schedule and saw who they played.  7-3 against that schedule is probably not any cause for celebration.

Hiram's schedule is not the worse I have seen but yeah not good at 319th in the nation. 

SOS: http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2017/schedule?tmpl=sos-template
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 14, 2017, 05:04:36 PM
I wonder why Witt was only in FL for 5 days and only played 6 games?  Seems like if you're going to make that trek you'd want to get in as many games as you could while you're there.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 15, 2017, 01:16:25 PM
OWU is finally getting on the winning side of things, after starting 0-5, they have win 3 in a row. Now the teams they beat are not doing that well themselves. The best of the lot in florida, so far, was supposed to be Susquehanna, but they are 3-6. But they have beat some good teams.
http://www.gosusqu.com/sports/bsb/2016-17/schedule
North Central is up next
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 15, 2017, 01:25:49 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 14, 2017, 05:04:36 PM
I wonder why Witt was only in FL for 5 days and only played 6 games?  Seems like if you're going to make that trek you'd want to get in as many games as you could while you're there.
OWU's schedule is pretty similar, they are down there from the 13th to the 17th.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 16, 2017, 10:25:29 AM
That Wielansky kid seems like he is going to be an absolute stud.  He and Lackner have to be the best 1-2 punch in the middle of the order in the NCAC.  Good grief.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 16, 2017, 11:53:38 AM
Yeah, They are going to be hard to stop. They have to be the favorite to get the NCAC bid. Not sure I see another Pool C out of the NCAC, unless possibly Denison.
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Post by: old scot on March 17, 2017, 04:39:07 PM
Scots off to a good start. Not sure how strong the competition is. 5 and 0 coming out of the gate.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 18, 2017, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: old scot on March 17, 2017, 04:39:07 PM
Scots off to a good start. Not sure how strong the competition is. 5 and 0 coming out of the gate.

Looking at their schedule the competition is not bad at all.  Arcadia and Susquehanna both have nice wins to their credit this year.  And Adrian today will be a nice early test too.   
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Post by: TexasDad on March 22, 2017, 07:29:56 PM
Congrats to Denison University Coach Mike Deegan on his 100th career victory today in a win against Marietta.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 23, 2017, 10:53:46 AM
That had to be sweet coming against the alma mater.  First of many milestones for Deegan.  Congrats!
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 24, 2017, 02:24:14 PM
Nice win for Wooster today over JHU.  Coach P had a very quick hook with Saran in the 1st.  BB, BB, HBP, take a seat.
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Post by: old scot on March 24, 2017, 04:51:14 PM
Scots finish their Florida trip 9-1 and 10-1 for the season. Ready for northern baseball and good weather.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 26, 2017, 04:27:11 PM
Hey BLD, what's up with Ingles going to Cap to be AD??  I heard that while I was listening to the Mount/Etta DH on the radio and I thought I had to have heard incorrectly.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on April 05, 2017, 03:27:09 PM
I have the Mount game at Hiram video streaming on one of my monitors this afternoon.  Man, you have to hand it to Jenter.  I have NO idea how you recruit with those facilities.  It looks like a mediocre HS field at best.  Orange snow fence??  Kudos to him for selling kids on Hiram. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 11, 2017, 07:16:00 PM
Yeah, I was surprised, but his son graduated a couple of years ago, so he no longer has that tie. If this indicates that Cap is getting serious about sports, I think Ingles will be a good choice.
It also may be a good opportunity for Mott to get out of Ingles shadow. Ingles ran that program for a long time. I always wondered if Mott might have felt Ingles was always looking over his shoulder. You know how parents talk. Every year no matter how the team did, some parent always said Ingles was going to come back and take over the program.
One year a parent tried to tell me Carengie-Mellon was going to join the NCAC and Ingles was going to take over the baseball team , because he had never beat them. All I could do was laugh. They wanted to know what was so funny. I said someone is pulling your leg. They were convinced it was real. I told them to check out CMU's record, and get back to me. They never talked about it again.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 11, 2017, 07:22:46 PM
Jenter has his years, it has been a while but every so often they were competitive.
What was Earlhams field like back in the day. I know it is nice now, but has it always been?
It used to be Earlham on the bottom in the west, an either Oberlin or Hiram in the bottom in the East.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 26, 2017, 10:01:36 AM
I would like to give a shout out to College of Wooster player Michael Wielansky. He was named to compete in the College scouting Showcase. He is a member of the Charlottesville Tom Sox in the Valley League. In this showcase players competed against all-stars from other collegiate summer leagues in front of MLB scouts.

D-III Teammates Selected for College Scouting Showcase


http://www.valleyleaguebaseball.com/view/valleyleaguebaseball/news-652/news_490111
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 23, 2017, 01:10:34 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to all of NCAC ballplayers, their families and Fans
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 28, 2017, 03:40:25 PM
Ohio Wesleyan schedule is out.
http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

Usual suspects, but first year of round robin play. Spring has not been released yet and other changes may happen between now and the season start.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 28, 2017, 04:40:02 PM
https://twitter.com/OWUbaseball1/status/935606543818641408?s=17
New Halo and score board at Littick field.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 14, 2017, 05:22:37 PM
Welcome new OWU assistant Jon Koepf, recruitment coordinator and defensive coach.

http://www.battlingbishops.com/staff.aspx?staff=175
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 25, 2017, 08:09:41 AM
Merry Christmas to all My Freinds here on these boards. Be safe all. Enjoy time with your family. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 28, 2017, 09:36:19 AM
Looks like Woosters 2018 Roster is up.
http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/roster
8 FR
10 Soph
10 Jr.
7 sr
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 28, 2017, 09:40:24 AM
Kenyons 2018 Roster is up.
http://athletics.kenyon.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball
11 FR
12 Soph
6 Jr
7 Sr
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 28, 2017, 10:06:50 AM
Witt Roster can be found here. This probably not official as it is not the default page for their roster yet.
http://www.wittenbergtigers.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/roster
20 Fr.
15 Soph
8 Jr.
3 Senior
Look like it will be a very young team this year.


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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 28, 2017, 10:21:00 AM
Depauws unofficial Roster.
http://depauwtigers.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/roster
26 Freshman ( one interesting one. TJ Carney-Debord) Not sure how he does not end up at Denison.
11 Soph
8 Juniors
5 Seniors




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Post by: Dr. Acula on January 20, 2018, 09:57:26 AM
I would think with this being McGee's 2nd year at Witt we are going to see a lot of young guys (aka "his" guys) playing this spring.  They make take some lumps again this year, but I'd think that by next year they'd start to see an upward trend.  At least that'd be my expectation if I was a Witt fan.

I always find the different philosophies on roster size interesting.  For as long as Hesse has been HC at Mount he's been a big roster guy.  Always brings in a lot of kids (28 freshmen this year) and has a large roster (64 currently).  I always wonder how much of that is dictated, or at least influenced, by the administration in terms of wanting the max kids recruited to get the max tuition dollars from each sport.  Football is well known for their huge roster, but baseball carries a lot, men's hoops has 30 kids, etc. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 20, 2018, 10:20:46 AM
Dr. ,
This will be McGee's first year with his guys. I have heard, 6-9 Freshman being in the starting line up. The should be young this year. I agree that they may take their lumps again this year. However next year may see an upward trend.
I have often thought the same about the size of the recruiting class. The year OWU changed football coaches, and Watt took over, the football recruiting class was smaller. However Mott brought in 28 guys. That class had some really good talent. If y you looked at some of the other male sports, their recruiting classes were larger as well. I have also noticed roster sizes differ greatly from conference to conference. Schools in the OAC generally have larger Rosters than the NCAC.
Some of the philosophies of recruiting may also be the schools you play against in Conference. Marietta for Example is notorious for very large recruiting classes, with many not making it out of fall and making the spring roster.
So I think it is a combination of administration requirements combined with how other teams in your conference recruit.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 29, 2018, 12:32:20 PM
https://twitter.com/OWUbaseball1/status/957797487061938177

OWU is back in action.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 02, 2018, 01:37:28 PM
PG has Wooster Ranked number three in their pre-season Poll:
https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=14855
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Post by: Dr. Acula on February 05, 2018, 12:20:19 PM
That seems a little aggressive considering the pitching, doesn't it?  They're going to bury most teams during the regular season with their bats, but we all saw what happened last year.  Tournament play is a different animal.  Gotta have the arms.  They didn't last year and they appear to have fewer this year.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 05, 2018, 03:09:48 PM
I agree. Last time I looked at their home/away splits it was Eye opening. Their home field us a launch pad. Better not  be a fly ball pitcher in that park.
The same has Ben said about Littick in the past though as well.
Some of this may be due to haw well their two players did in the Valley league this year. It was well deserved, it did get Wooster a lot of press.
The NCAC is round Robin this year, so it will be interesting.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on February 05, 2018, 03:50:08 PM
Littick may not be a pitcher's park, but Murray is much worse IMO.  It's a jet stream out of there.  The ball flies out at an alarming rate.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 05, 2018, 03:53:16 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on February 05, 2018, 03:50:08 PM
Littick may not be a pitcher's park, but Murray is much worse IMO.  It's a jet stream out of there.  The ball flies out at an alarming rate.
Believe me I know. I have watched too many Games there. You could tell the Wooster players were very good at Lofting the Ball. You have to be a ground ball pitcher at Murray or you are in trouble.
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Post by: Pops33 on February 06, 2018, 09:23:29 AM
I would tend to agree with you two on Murray being a launching pad, although I have seen games there when the wind blows in and it is difficult to get one out.  Oddly enough, their split stats from last year show a that it was actually even, in both home and away games they had a 1.167 HR/game ratio.

Agreed, #3 seems a bit high at this time.  I am guessing, much of the basis for the national ranking is because of Wielanski's success, and the return of 7 of 9 hitters in the lineup that led the nation in scoring average.  They brought in a lot of pitching the last two years, time will tell if they have good arms. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 06, 2018, 12:27:38 PM
It is good to see their splits evened out. Last time I looked it was atrocious.  Admittedly that was a few years ago. With my son no longer playing, I do not dive that deep anymore.
It would be great if they live up to that billing. Especially with round Robin this year.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on February 21, 2018, 05:42:49 PM
I'm a little confused here.  Kelly Swiney left Allegheny for Westminster?  Didn't Swiney play at Gheny?  And it's not like Westminster is a good program.  Seems odd.  Maybe he got a nice pay increase though.  Who knows.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 21, 2018, 06:37:51 PM
Yeah, it was confusing to me as well. Does he have family in the area?
Us the unwashed masses want to know.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 23, 2018, 05:26:04 PM
OWU releases season preview.
Couple of highlights, Stolly moves to shortstop, he has been at second during his college career. SS was a problem lat year, hopefully this will help.  Blatchford moves back to center. OWU has two transfers one from Florida Southern and another from Cumberlands.
http://battlingbishops.com/news/2018/2/23/BA_2018pre_2.aspx
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Post by: ScotsFan on March 07, 2018, 03:13:42 PM
Wooster has played just one game so far in the 2018 season and yet has jumped 8 spots in the polls since the pre season rankings came out!

Wooster was ranked 14 in the pre-season poll and now finds itself #6 this week with one first place vote despite only playing 1 game...  8-)

Wooster will open their Florida trip on Monday when the season finally gets into full swing.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 13, 2018, 07:43:12 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 07, 2018, 03:13:42 PM
Wooster has played just one game so far in the 2018 season and yet has jumped 8 spots in the polls since the pre season rankings came out!

Wooster was ranked 14 in the pre-season poll and now finds itself #6 this week with one first place vote despite only playing 1 game...  8-)

Wooster will open their Florida trip on Monday when the season finally gets into full swing.
More accurately, 8 wannabes have demonstrated that they are not up to the expectations that the cognoscenti had of them.  Wooster has just floated up to the expectations of another 32-8 season!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 15, 2018, 01:04:01 PM
Interesting early results in the NCAC.  I was surprised to see DPU on a 6 game skid at 1-6.  To be fair, I'm not aware of how much talent they graduated so perhaps they're just really young this year.  Wabash also caught my eye at 8-2.  I keep a closer eye on the OH teams so I was a little concerned about OWU's pitching so far.  They've given up double digits in all 5 losses.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on April 02, 2018, 10:48:57 AM
It was an interesting weekend for the NCAC.  The only two teams to sweep the doubleheader were OWU over Oberlin and Wooster over DePauw, all of the other teams split (Kenyon and Hiram postponed their series).  The biggest surprise was probably Wittenberg giving Denison all they could handle in the first game, and winning in extra innings in the second game.   Wabash continued their strong spring with a shutout of Allegheny at home in the first game before the Gators came back to win a one run game in the nightcap.  Although they are a young team, DePauw had a strong showing at Wooster, losing both contests by a single run. 

It looks like a lot of parity so far in the NCAC.  I am looking forward to see how the new round robin schedule plays out.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 09, 2018, 11:09:48 PM
34-1??  Good lord!  I can see Woo hanging 20+ on the Puppies like they did, but 34 on OWU?!  And it wasn't even at the launching pad it was in Delaware.  Wow.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: bufordscot on April 10, 2018, 11:14:39 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on April 09, 2018, 11:09:48 PM
34-1??  Good lord!  I can see Woo hanging 20+ on the Puppies like they did, but 34 on OWU?!  And it wasn't even at the launching pad it was in Delaware.  Wow.
For his sake, I hope Bishopleftiesdad's son didn't pitch ::)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on April 10, 2018, 11:39:16 AM
Quote from: bufordscot on April 10, 2018, 11:14:39 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on April 09, 2018, 11:09:48 PM
34-1??  Good lord!  I can see Woo hanging 20+ on the Puppies like they did, but 34 on OWU?!  And it wasn't even at the launching pad it was in Delaware.  Wow.
For his sake, I hope Bishopleftiesdad's son didn't pitch ::)

His son graduated at least two years ago.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on April 10, 2018, 01:09:05 PM
Two Fighting Scots named to the D3baseball.com's team of the week - Dan Harwood and Drew Tornow.

http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/team-of-the-week/2018/week09

It is the 3rd time the Harwood has been named to the team of the week.  Oddly enough, the NCAC did not give either one their player of the week award.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2018, 01:21:19 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on April 10, 2018, 01:09:05 PM
Two Fighting Scots named to the D3baseball.com's team of the week - Dan Harwood and Drew Tornow.

http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/team-of-the-week/2018/week09

It is the 3rd time the Harwood has been named to the team of the week.  Oddly enough, the NCAC did not give either one their player of the week award.

There could have been more Scots on the team of the week.  I doubt either will be the NCBWA hitter of the week
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 10, 2018, 05:11:29 PM
Woo puts up 20 plus on Hiram and 34 on OWU. Is a mercy rule in order?  Its good for the Scots to get a lot of players in the game but, the opponent doesn't need the beat down.

Wooster has no equal in the NCAC.  Wish they  were still in the OAC
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 18, 2018, 05:43:56 PM
Woo pounding the Obies  Looks like a sweep  Beat Etta last week and a sweep of Wabash over the weekend. Ranked #2 .
Don't know if they are worthy but they keep winning.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 19, 2018, 10:51:39 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 18, 2018, 05:43:56 PM
Woo pounding the Obies  Looks like a sweep  Beat Etta last week and a sweep of Wabash over the weekend. Ranked #2 .
Don't know if they are worthy but they keep winning.

Not the best SOS at 192 but they will bring a pretty good record  to the Pool C discussion if they slip up in the conference tournament.  They have a better SOS compared to other .800+ winning programs (Shenandoah, Mitchell)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on April 20, 2018, 07:58:22 AM
Wooster also has some good out of conference wins on their resume this year such as Keystone, Johns Hopkins, Marietta, and North Central.  They did not have those on their resume 3 years ago when they were left out of Regionals with a 36-9 record.  They also still have Case Western, LaRoche, Denison, John Carroll, and Otterbein left on their schedule.  Their strength of schedule rating should improve over the remainder of the year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 20, 2018, 06:01:33 PM
Pounding the Muskies today  Gators up for tomorrow  Fish food


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on April 25, 2018, 06:57:45 PM
#2 Wooster defeats #12 CWRU 11-6 today in Cleveland.  Scots scored ten of their runs in what was a nightmarish second inning for the Spartans.  Leadoff single followed by a grounder to short that looked like a potential DP but throw to second was off line and after that it was Katie bar the door.

Spartans have a doubleheader on Sunday at #20 Marietta.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 26, 2018, 12:16:18 PM
I know this spring has been an absolute nightmare to try and get these games played, but Wabash playing two at Hiram on Saturday then two at Depauw on Sunday is diabolical. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 26, 2018, 01:30:52 PM
That's rough after that drive to Hiram.  Wilmington just finished a stretch where they had to play OAC DH's on Friday, Sunday and Monday.  The weather has been ridiculous.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on April 27, 2018, 08:47:43 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 18, 2018, 05:43:56 PM
Woo pounding the Obies  Looks like a sweep  Beat Etta last week and a sweep of Wabash over the weekend. Ranked #2 .
Don't know if they are worthy but they keep winning.

Wooster is looking like they are the real deal.  Beat LaRoche and Case on consecutive days.  The regional rankings, which had Case #1,  were done prior to the Scots beating Case. My quick calculations show the Scots are now 8-0 against regionally ranked opponents.  They should move up to #1 in the region for sure.  If they have a good weekend, the top spot in the nation may be in the cards.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on April 27, 2018, 09:34:47 AM
Quote from: Pops33 on April 27, 2018, 08:47:43 AM
Quote from: old scot on April 18, 2018, 05:43:56 PM
Woo pounding the Obies  Looks like a sweep  Beat Etta last week and a sweep of Wabash over the weekend. Ranked #2 .
Don't know if they are worthy but they keep winning.

Wooster is looking like they are the real deal.  Beat LaRoche and Case on consecutive days.  The regional rankings, which had Case #1,  were done prior to the Scots beating Case. My quick calculations show the Scots are now 8-0 against regionally ranked opponents.  They should move up to #1 in the region for sure.  If they have a good weekend, the top spot in the nation may be in the cards.

8-1 they lost one of two to North Central have DH with RR Denison tomorrow.  One or more of their wins over RR may not be RR after all is said and done.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on April 27, 2018, 10:11:38 AM
Thanks for the correction.  They did split with North Central in Florida.  Good catch.  Some teams will definitely drop out of the regional rankings as you indicated, especially since 13 teams are ranked in the Mideast Region.  Lots of the ranked opponents play each other over the last couple of weeks, there should be a lot of movement in the rankings.   Good luck to your Spartans on Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 27, 2018, 10:22:36 AM
Boy, rough year for Hiram even by their standards.  I listened to a good chunk of their game at Mount yesterday (I know, I'm a lunatic) and the Terriers gave up 20 runs to a very pedestrian Mount offense that was without 2 of their better hitters.  It sounded like Hiram was playing a lot of freshmen and sophomores and they did a Johnny All Staff day, but 4-22 is a tough season for anyone.  I hope it pays off over the next couple of years with some degree of success for Jenter because they're taking their lumps now.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on April 30, 2018, 01:20:09 PM
With just 1 week left in the season, 8 of the 10 teams are in contention for a playoff spot.  Six of those teams are between 6 to 8 losses.  It looks like a real dogfight for the #3 and #4 spots in the conference tournament.  The NCAC definitely made the end of the regular season more interesting by switching to the round robin format.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 30, 2018, 02:45:39 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on April 30, 2018, 01:20:09 PM
With just 1 week left in the season, 8 of the 10 teams are in contention for a playoff spot.  Six of those teams are between 6 to 8 losses.  It looks like a real dogfight for the #3 and #4 spots in the conference tournament.  The NCAC definitely made the end of the regular season more interesting by switching to the round robin format.

I think Wabash is in good shape to be in the top four.  One win at home against Denison should lock in #3, but if the Big Red get out of C'ville with a sweep, things could get weird given Wabash's two close losses at DePauw on Sunday.  But who could have seen that coming (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4160.msg1868399#msg1868399)??
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on April 30, 2018, 02:59:45 PM
That was an unfortunate premonition on your part Wally.  Wabash did play their DH against Hiram on the turf at Wooster's Art Murray Field instead of travelling to Hiram.  It saved them more than an hour each way but they still had a 5+ hour trip home. 

It will definitely be an exciting series in Crawfordsville this weekend.  With a split, they will probably be paired up with Denison again in the first round of the conference tourney.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 30, 2018, 03:17:03 PM
Pops, the thing I'm missing is why the Wabash/DPU DH got smushed in on Sunday in the first place.  The games were originally scheduled to be played on May 2.  I'm not sure why that date had to be changed.  I assume there is some kind of non-baseball reason why this happened...finals week at Wabash?  That must be it.  Unfortunate to have to take on that travel burden, but students first and what not.  Hopefully future league schedules account for this to begin with because it is really avoidable. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2018, 04:33:09 PM
Wabash/DPU...

There is no such thing as the Monon Resin Bag, is there?

How about an old tobacco spittoon from a train station on the Monon Railroad?  (Wouldn't that be politically incorrect?)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 01, 2018, 09:32:01 AM
I nominate the Monon Fungo. 

Also, congrats to Wooster for reaching #1. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 11, 2018, 09:00:49 AM
Day 1 results from Chillicothe:
#1 Wooster 8, #4 Kenyon 1
#3 Wabash 4, #2 Denison 2

Wabash had lost six straight coming in to the tournament, so breaking that skid with an opening round win is nice.  Hopefully that loosens things up a bit as they'll surely need to play their best to stay in the winner's bracket today.  Also noteworthy is that last night's win sets a new club record for wins in a season at 26 for Wabash.  Hopefully there's a few more Ws in there before this season wraps up.  Wooster vs. Wabash at noon today, Denison vs. Kenyon at 4:00, and an elimination nightcap.  Busy day in Chillicothe. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 11, 2018, 02:53:12 PM
LGs stay in the winner's bracket with a 7-3 win over Wooster.  Cody Cochran gave Wabash six really strong innings allowing just four hits to the potent Wooster offense.  Zach Moffett entered in the 7th in a 4-3 game and held off a Wooster rally at a critical point in the game where Wooster really had momentum and were stringing together some solid at bats.  Coach Martin really went all-in there to have his closer get the last nine outs, but in this format, there's really no other way to do it.  Really good ballgame here by Wabash. 

Wabash moves on to championship Saturday.  Wooster gets the winner of Denison/Kenyon later this evening. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 12, 2018, 02:33:44 PM
We will not play two today in Chillicothe as Wabash eliminates Wooster by a score of 17-8.  Wabash got ahead early with 7 in the first two innings.  Critical moment in the Wooster 3rd with one in and the bases loaded, Jake Martin went straight to his closer Zach Moffett to put out the fire and squash what was shaping up to be a big inning for the Scots.  Down the stretch, Wooster used the long ball to get the score back to 13-8 through the top half of the 7th.  And just when you think Wooster is within striking distance, Wabash goes out in the 7th and plants a four spot up there, extends the lead to 17-8 and really ended the game right there. 

In both of these wins vs. Wooster, Wabash got out ahead early, and answered every single Scot rally.  Jake Martin's savvy in going to his closer yesterday in the 7th and today in the 3rd really paid off.  Credit to him for recognizing that the save situations in these games aren't happening in the 9th.  Really cool stuff.  Wabash goes to the NCAA tournament for the 2nd time.  Obviously, Wooster will be going also, so plenty more baseball to be played.  WAF.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on May 13, 2018, 08:06:06 AM
Congrats to Wabash.  They played really well throughout the tournament and beat Wooster in every facet of the game on Saturday.  Good luck in the NCAA tournament! 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 14, 2018, 09:08:35 AM
Wabash vs. Wooster: Part V on Thursday in Adrian.  Feels a little bit lazy.  Thomas More to Adrian, Wabash to Sauget (those are actually shorter trips for both schools) and you avoid the conference rematch.  That was easy to avoid. 

Also congrats to Denison for being selected.  Hopefully the Big Red can make some noise down in NC. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2018, 09:55:12 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on May 14, 2018, 09:08:35 AM
Wabash vs. Wooster: Part V on Thursday in Adrian. 

Why in the world would the NCAA do this?  That makes zero sense and honestly sucks for both schools.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 14, 2018, 10:26:07 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2018, 09:55:12 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on May 14, 2018, 09:08:35 AM
Wabash vs. Wooster: Part V on Thursday in Adrian. 

Why in the world would the NCAA do this?  That makes zero sense and honestly sucks for both schools.

The bummer from my perspective is that it was avoidable in a way that doesn't compromise bracket balance or budgets and didn't require a whole lot of creativity. I think this bracketing was just a little bit lazy.  But this is just the second time Wabash has even been in this tournament, so it's exciting to see the club be a part of it regardless of the draw. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: sigma one on May 14, 2018, 10:29:10 AM
Terrible.  Terrible.  Completely inexcusable.  I have not checked, but is there anywhere else in the entire tournament bracket where two teams who had just played for the conference championship must face one another again in the first round?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 14, 2018, 11:08:29 AM
Quote from: sigma one on May 14, 2018, 10:29:10 AM
Terrible.  Terrible.  Completely inexcusable.  I have not checked, but is there anywhere else in the entire tournament bracket where two teams who had just played for the conference championship must face one another again in the first round?

In our predicted bracket, we did not want a confernce team facing each other until the third round if possible
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: sigma one on May 14, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
It's the "if possible" that's a key.  It is easily possible to arrange the bracket so that conference foes (who had just played one another five days earlier to decide the conference championship series) do not meet one another in the very first game of the NCAA tournament.  With the two late losses to Wabash it could reasonably be argued that Wooster might have been seeded second instead of first for the games at Adrian.  That would be as simple as moving Otterbein into the #1 slot.  Or Wabash could have been placed at #7, instead of as the 8th seed.  Or that one of the two teams could have been placed at a different site.  The permutations are multiple.
     My cynical side says that the committee reckoned that the Wabash wins were a fluke, and this is a chance for Wooster to get early revenge--the third straight game between the two in less than a week.  My more fan-based side says that Wabash beat them twice and can do so again, that Wabash is on a mini role while Wooster is on a mini decline.  As Wally said, this seems a lazy decision (at best).  Putting my cynical side to rest and assuming that the Committee was unbiased and trying to do a good job they failed here in an obvious head scratcher.
      We will see, of course, but it's just doesn't smell right.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 15, 2018, 12:05:04 PM
Quote from: sigma one on May 14, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
It's the "if possible" that's a key.  It is easily possible to arrange the bracket so that conference foes (who had just played one another five days earlier to decide the conference championship series) do not meet one another in the very first game of the NCAA tournament.  With the two late losses to Wabash it could reasonably be argued that Wooster might have been seeded second instead of first for the games at Adrian.  That would be as simple as moving Otterbein into the #1 slot.  Or Wabash could have been placed at #7, instead of as the 8th seed.  Or that one of the two teams could have been placed at a different site.  The permutations are multiple.
     My cynical side says that the committee reckoned that the Wabash wins were a fluke, and this is a chance for Wooster to get early revenge--the third straight game between the two in less than a week.  My more fan-based side says that Wabash beat them twice and can do so again, that Wabash is on a mini role while Wooster is on a mini decline.  As Wally said, this seems a lazy decision (at best).  Putting my cynical side to rest and assuming that the Committee was unbiased and trying to do a good job they failed here in an obvious head scratcher.
      We will see, of course, but it's just doesn't smell right.

If Otterbein had won the OAC tourney I would say you might be able to make an argument, but they didn't.  IMO Wooster is the clear #1 in the regional.  Now the slotting of Wabash at 7 versus 8 is much more feasible and, let's be serious, a VERY easy solution to avoid an NCAC retread in the regional opener.  But as I mentioned on the OAC thread, that would result in an overly difficult opener for the 1 seed playing Adrian in their park with Parsons on the mound.  Not sure how fair that reward would be for a top seed.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on May 15, 2018, 12:11:23 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 15, 2018, 12:05:04 PM
Quote from: sigma one on May 14, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
It's the "if possible" that's a key.  It is easily possible to arrange the bracket so that conference foes (who had just played one another five days earlier to decide the conference championship series) do not meet one another in the very first game of the NCAA tournament.  With the two late losses to Wabash it could reasonably be argued that Wooster might have been seeded second instead of first for the games at Adrian.  That would be as simple as moving Otterbein into the #1 slot.  Or Wabash could have been placed at #7, instead of as the 8th seed.  Or that one of the two teams could have been placed at a different site.  The permutations are multiple.
     My cynical side says that the committee reckoned that the Wabash wins were a fluke, and this is a chance for Wooster to get early revenge--the third straight game between the two in less than a week.  My more fan-based side says that Wabash beat them twice and can do so again, that Wabash is on a mini role while Wooster is on a mini decline.  As Wally said, this seems a lazy decision (at best).  Putting my cynical side to rest and assuming that the Committee was unbiased and trying to do a good job they failed here in an obvious head scratcher.
      We will see, of course, but it's just doesn't smell right.

If Otterbein had won the OAC tourney I would say you might be able to make an argument, but they didn't.  IMO Wooster is the clear #1 in the regional.  Now the slotting of Wabash at 7 versus 8 is much more feasible and, let's be serious, a VERY easy solution to avoid an NCAC retread in the regional opener.  But as I mentioned on the OAC thread, that would result in an overly difficult opener for the 1 seed playing Adrian in their park with Parsons on the mound.  Not sure how fair that reward would be for a top seed.

Thomas More and Wabash are interchangeable 8s in this tournament.  That was an obvious move to make if anybody was really concerned about avoiding opening game rematches. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on June 05, 2018, 09:19:04 AM
Congrats to Wooster, Denison and Wabash on the great seasons this year.   I believe both Wabash and Denison set a school record for wins this year with 32 (both schools).  Wooster was only one of 4 schools in he country to finish with at least 40 wins, which means that they have had 4 straight seasons of 36+ wins.  Great accomplishment for Wooster's outgoing senior class, with it culminating in a World Series trip.  Memories I am sure the boys will never forget.

The coaching staffs on the teams did an outstanding job.  It was a very good year for NCAC baseball.  Coach Martin, Coach Deegan and Coach Pettorini of course get well-deserved accolades, but the true strength of good programs lie in their assistants' abilities.  Congratulations to all of the players, coaches and staff that  make these programs a success.  Good college baseball is a true joy to watch.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: JFPIV on June 06, 2018, 04:25:34 PM
The shortstop from Wooster, Wielansky, was drafted by the Astros in the 18th round!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 10, 2018, 04:36:24 PM
Hiram names new head coach.
http://www.hiramterriers.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20180711r8lt79
He should be familiar with the NCAC, as he played at Oberlin.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on August 12, 2018, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on August 10, 2018, 04:36:24 PM
Hiram names new head coach.
http://www.hiramterriers.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20180711r8lt79
He should be familiar with the NCAC, as he played at Oberlin.

Was assistant there as well 2013-2015.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 12, 2018, 01:51:44 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on August 12, 2018, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on August 10, 2018, 04:36:24 PM
Hiram names new head coach.
http://www.hiramterriers.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20180711r8lt79
He should be familiar with the NCAC, as he played at Oberlin.

Was assistant there as well 2013-2015.
Yup, I am interested, in where he will take the program
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on August 15, 2018, 11:32:38 AM
I just got on Hiram's website and looked at the pics of their field.  Huge upgrade.  I remember the days of the orange snow fence in the OF at Hiram.  Permanent fence, crushed brick warning track...looks much nicer now.  Hopefully Brua gets things going a little there.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 05, 2018, 02:56:49 PM
OWU has posted their schedule. Really early.
https://battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 05, 2018, 03:03:20 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on August 15, 2018, 11:32:38 AM
I just got on Hiram's website and looked at the pics of their field.  Huge upgrade.  I remember the days of the orange snow fence in the OF at Hiram.  Permanent fence, crushed brick warning track...looks much nicer now.  Hopefully Brua gets things going a little there.
Just checked it out. It fits in well with many other NCAC fields now.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on December 07, 2018, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on December 05, 2018, 03:03:20 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on August 15, 2018, 11:32:38 AM
I just got on Hiram's website and looked at the pics of their field.  Huge upgrade.  I remember the days of the orange snow fence in the OF at Hiram.  Permanent fence, crushed brick warning track...looks much nicer now.  Hopefully Brua gets things going a little there.
Just checked it out. It fits in well with many other NCAC fields now.

One of my summer players was very impressed with Brua and Hiram.  He ended up narrowing down to ONU and Mount only because he wants to major in engineering.  He said if he didn't want to major in engineering he would have chosen Hiram because of Brua.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 13, 2018, 03:49:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on December 07, 2018, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on December 05, 2018, 03:03:20 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on August 15, 2018, 11:32:38 AM
I just got on Hiram's website and looked at the pics of their field.  Huge upgrade.  I remember the days of the orange snow fence in the OF at Hiram.  Permanent fence, crushed brick warning track...looks much nicer now.  Hopefully Brua gets things going a little there.
Just checked it out. It fits in well with many other NCAC fields now.

One of my summer players was very impressed with Brua and Hiram.  He ended up narrowing down to ONU and Mount only because he wants to major in engineering.  He said if he didn't want to major in engineering he would have chosen Hiram because of Brua.
Yeah, almost every student/ball player I know, that can play at that level, usually ends up at ONU or Mount for that exact reason. I know a couple that really wanted to come to OWU, however OWU does not offer engineering as a four year degree.
I am even sure that there is an NCAC school that offers Engineering.
I am sure Hiram will see an uptick. With Round robin their chances should be improved.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on December 13, 2018, 07:21:57 PM
The two things that Mount has added that I think have helped them the most are the nursing program and the engineering programs.  Recruiting was not even a consideration when adding them, but it's a nice added benefit. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on December 14, 2018, 10:13:08 AM
I hope Brua is successful at Hiram.  It seems like a program that is ripe for improvement.  It is close to both Youngstown and Cleveland for those kids that want to stay close to home and his past experience in the NCAC in the will allow him to know what he is recruiting against, both pros and cons, in the state/region as a whole.

With all of the emphasis on strength of schedule now to qualify for the NCAA post-season, anytime a program improves, it is better for the conference as a whole, especially a program that has historically been in the lower third of the standings.  The improved field should definitely help with recruiting as well.  I look forward to seeing what he can do.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 14, 2018, 11:26:27 AM
Quote from: Pops33 on December 14, 2018, 10:13:08 AM
I hope Brua is successful at Hiram.  It seems like a program that is ripe for improvement.  It is close to both Youngstown and Cleveland for those kids that want to stay close to home and his past experience in the NCAC in the will allow him to know what he is recruiting against, both pros and cons, in the state/region as a whole.

With all of the emphasis on strength of schedule now to qualify for the NCAA post-season, anytime a program improves, it is better for the conference as a whole, especially a program that has historically been in the lower third of the standings.  The improved field should definitely help with recruiting as well.  I look forward to seeing what he can do.
Playing devils advocate here. While improving SOS for the rest of the league is great, if their is parity, and they spend the season beating up on each other, that may affect NCAC in the regional standings.
That being said,vital is up to the other teams to improve and up their game as well. I would love to see Hiram start beating up on OAC teams. I would like to see all NCAC teams compete against the top of the OAC.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on December 14, 2018, 12:07:44 PM
All but 3 teams last year were sub .500 in their out of conference won-loss record.  Those three that were above .500 all made regionals.  The worst out of conference records last year were:

Depauw 2-17
Hiram 3-12
Witt  6-14
Oberlin 8-14
Kenyon 6-10

The out of conference records are the ones that need improving to increase the teams' overall SOS.  They may beat each other up a little more, but the top teams will definitely benefit.  Plus, it's boring seeing the same 4 or 5 teams make the NCAC tournament every year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 14, 2018, 12:12:25 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on December 14, 2018, 12:07:44 PM
All but 3 teams last year were sub .500 in their out of conference won-loss record.  Those three that were above .500 all made regionals.  The worst out of conference records last year were:

Depauw 2-17
Hiram 3-12
Witt  6-14
Oberlin 8-14
Kenyon 6-10

The out of conference records are the ones that need improving to increase the teams' overall SOS.  They may beat each other up a little more, but the top teams will definitely benefit.  Plus, it's boring seeing the same 4 or 5 teams make the NCAC tournament every year.
Yes, I agree. All the NCAC teams need to get better out of Conference.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 14, 2018, 01:34:49 PM
Looking at Depauw's schedule:
https://www.depauwtigers.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/schedule
Looks like there longest trip is 3 or four days in Birmingham, AL.
Looking back at their schedule it does not look like they take as long trips as some of the other NCAC schools. Looks like they go down south for a 3 or 4 days. They did go out to Tucson in 2016. And in 2013 they went down to Florida.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on December 14, 2018, 02:05:21 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on December 14, 2018, 01:34:49 PM
Looking at Depauw's schedule:
https://www.depauwtigers.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/schedule
Looks like there longest trip is 3 or four days in Birmingham, AL.
Looking back at their schedule it does not look like they take as long trips as some of the other NCAC schools. Looks like they go down south for a 3 or 4 days. They did go out to Tucson in 2016. And in 2013 they went down to Florida.

Part of the reason to be D3 is to minimize expenses and travel is a big one for any program.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 14, 2018, 02:12:06 PM
Well since I am looking I may as well start posting Schedules. Starting with My Favorite The Battling Bishops:
https://battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

Looks like they are heading down to teh Snowbird classic again in port Charlottte: http://snowbirdbaseball.info/
They are playing the usual cast of characters in Arcadia, Suny-Canton, and Swarthmore. They do not play these teams every year, however they seem to play them quite a bit when in Florida. I am glad to see Nichols off the schedule.
When they get back top Delaware, they play the typical schedule, heavy with OAC opponents, including the always over-rated (Just my opinion) Otterbein. They do add Manchester to the list. And I have never seen them play Manchester's fellow HCAC foe Defiance.
Out of Conference foes had a 386-309 record last year, good for a .555 win percentage. A few stinkers, however a pretty solid schedule.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 14, 2018, 02:18:44 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on December 14, 2018, 02:05:21 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on December 14, 2018, 01:34:49 PM
Looking at Depauw's schedule:
https://www.depauwtigers.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/schedule
Looks like there longest trip is 3 or four days in Birmingham, AL.
Looking back at their schedule it does not look like they take as long trips as some of the other NCAC schools. Looks like they go down south for a 3 or 4 days. They did go out to Tucson in 2016. And in 2013 they went down to Florida.

Part of the reason to be D3 is to minimize expenses and travel is a big one for any program.
Yes, however the schools in the NCAC that they compete against usually make a spring trip some where. Some of those trips are funded through fund raising and Parent associations. Wabash for instance makes a trip every year. Usually they take one short trip down south like Tenn or Ark, Then a spring trip somewhere to Arizona or Florida. One year they even went out to the west coast.
Each school has there own decisions to make. And as long as the student athlete is having a good experience, that is what matters, whether they take a trip or not. Looks like they make sure each Class gets at least one trip the four years they are there.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 17, 2018, 09:33:18 AM
Wooster has their roster posted for 2019.
http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/roster
10 freshman
8 Sophomore
8 Junior
7 Senior
Looks like 5 underclassman chose not to return. Of coarse one of those is Michael Wielansky who was drafted in the 18th round.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 17, 2018, 09:35:35 AM
Woosters schedule is posted however it is not complete. Looks like OWU and Wooster will have a common opponent early in Bridgewater state.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 17, 2018, 10:21:24 AM
Allegheny's schedule is out. Looks like they are headed to Tucson. No games listed yet for there trip.
https://alleghenygators.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball
Looking at who they played last year in Tucson, if you plug in the same number of wins and losses I end up with a pretty solid OOC schedule. They played a very strong team last year in Tucson, St. Johns, and but the rest were .500 or below. Looking at the schedule when they get back to Meadville, a good part of their OOC schedule is .500 teams, however they do play some very good teams in Baldwin Wallace at 33-14 last year and Ohio Northern at 27-15.
Plugging in the numbers from last year would give there opponents a .546 winning percentage.
This may change when we see who they are playing in Tucson.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 17, 2018, 10:32:00 AM
Kenyon as usual is going to spend two weeks in Florida. They get most of their OOC games done during that time. Once they get back they also play, Westminster Capital, Muskingum, Bethany and Bluffton. More to come.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on December 21, 2018, 11:07:34 AM
The first preseason poll is out and the NCAC is well represented.  Wooster voted #1, Wabash #25, and Denison #36.  We all know that the preseason polls have a lot to do with the prior season and somevoters may not really realize who is and is not coming back for each team, but it is nice to see that the conference is well-represented and some national respect.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 21, 2018, 01:51:34 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on December 21, 2018, 11:07:34 AM
The first preseason poll is out and the NCAC is well represented.  Wooster voted #1, Wabash #25, and Denison #36.  We all know that the preseason polls have a lot to do with the prior season and somevoters may not really realize who is and is not coming back for each team, but it is nice to see that the conference is well-represented and some national respect.
Great to hear. Wooster list a big piece, Michael Wielansky.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on December 21, 2018, 02:06:20 PM
http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseball-div-3-poll-12-19-18/
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on December 21, 2018, 03:55:50 PM
Thanks ADL, I meant to post the link, but obviously forgot.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 26, 2018, 01:16:44 PM
I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and Hope you all have a Wonderful New year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on January 15, 2019, 03:31:47 PM
Coach Pettorini from Wooster announces that 2019 will be his last season as Head Coach
http://woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20190115hto9yt (http://woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20190115hto9yt)
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on January 15, 2019, 05:42:38 PM
Could Englander be lured away from CWRU back to his alma mater?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 15, 2019, 06:49:59 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on January 15, 2019, 05:42:38 PM
Could Englander be lured away from CWRU back to his alma mater?

I would be shocked if it wasn't Craddock or Englander.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on January 15, 2019, 09:18:07 PM
Lots of former Fighting Scots are in the coaching ranks.  Don't forget about Palm, I believe he is from Smithville, just down the road from Wooster, and did a great job at Heidelberg.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 15, 2019, 09:48:22 PM
My vote is Craddock, he has been kind of a coach in waiting, what seems like forever. Ever since he went back to Wooster, from being the head guy at Denison.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 16, 2019, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Pops33 on January 15, 2019, 09:18:07 PM
Lots of former Fighting Scots are in the coaching ranks.  Don't forget about Palm, I believe he is from Smithville, just down the road from Wooster, and did a great job at Heidelberg.

I would be floored if it was Palm.  He moved away from coaching and took the AD job in order to be able to be involved with his kids' stuff growing up.  Now once his kids are out of school?  Different story. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 16, 2019, 10:01:43 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on January 15, 2019, 09:48:22 PM
My vote is Craddock, he has been kind of a coach in waiting, what seems like forever. Ever since he went back to Wooster, from being the head guy at Denison.

I'd think if there were odds being set that Craddock would be a heavy favorite.  It just makes sense.  He and Englander both have similar resumes in so far as they've both been successful HC and both played for Coach P.  The difference IMO is that Craddock went back to Wooster to be an assistant after being a HC.  He clearly could have had a HC job instead which makes me wonder if there wasn't a handshake deal that if he returned Coach P would recommend him as his successor when he retired.  Potentially very similar to what happened at Etta when Brewer returned to be Schaly's assistant after being the HC at JCU.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 16, 2019, 10:44:51 AM
As always the Dr. comes through. How I miss Buckeye State baseball....
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: CollegeGolf18 on January 18, 2019, 10:34:34 PM
Wabash's 2019 schedule is out: https://sports.wabash.edu/schedule.aspx?schedule=565

I like what I see here they have a trip to Tennessee to start off the year and then a Spring Break trip to Arizona once again. Some good teams in AZ. They have a few good teams but a pretty average OOC here, I believe. Kind of odd only seeing three true road OOC games, but alas.

OOC foes are below:
@ Rhodes College // 32-16 last year, open at 18 in the poll
v. Webster (neutral) // 38-10 last year, open at 17 in the poll
v. Transy (neutral) // 17-22 last year
v. Hanover x3 // 8-25 last year
v. Manchester x2 // 20-22 last year
v. Edgewood College x3 // 9-28 last year
@ Baldwin Wallace // 33-14 last year, open at 29 in the poll
v. Rose Hulman, @ Rose // 20-23 last year
v. Anderson (@Victory Field), v. Anderson // 25-20 last year
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on January 21, 2019, 09:54:45 AM
I think that Wabash will be one of the best in the league again as most of their lineup returns.  The challenge they will face is pitching.  They had a couple of underclassmen get starts last year, which should bode well for the future.  However, pitchers that provided 32 of the 49 starts graduated.  While they do have some experienced pitching returning, those returning pitchers now slot against the #1 and #2 slots that Roberts and Cochran excelled in.  The good schedule that it appears they have should help that pitching grow and get better during the year.  The run they had last year in the conference tournament and the NCAA regional should also provide them additional motivation and desire that is needed to maintain success in the program.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 21, 2019, 12:56:19 PM
Hiring Martin, was a God send for Wabash. He knows what it takes to recruit at Wabash, because he lived it. He is a really good coach and I believe Wabash will finally get some pitching depth. Pitching depth has always been their big a boo. They just never had it. They usually had one or two very good or one great pitcher. After that their was a real drop off. If you could get to their bull pen, you had a good chance.
I believe Martin will correct that. Corey Steven's did a good job, he just could not convince enough really good potential pitchers to go their.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 21, 2019, 02:50:40 PM
Quote from: CollegeGolf18 on January 18, 2019, 10:34:34 PM
Wabash's 2019 schedule is out: https://sports.wabash.edu/schedule.aspx?schedule=565

I like what I see here they have a trip to Tennessee to start off the year and then a Spring Break trip to Arizona once again. Some good teams in AZ. They have a few good teams but a pretty average OOC here, I believe. Kind of odd only seeing three true road OOC games, but alas.

OOC foes are below:
@ Rhodes College // 32-16 last year, open at 18 in the poll
v. Webster (neutral) // 38-10 last year, open at 17 in the poll
v. Transy (neutral) // 17-22 last year
v. Hanover x3 // 8-25 last year
v. Manchester x2 // 20-22 last year
v. Edgewood College x3 // 9-28 last year
@ Baldwin Wallace // 33-14 last year, open at 29 in the poll
v. Rose Hulman, @ Rose // 20-23 last year
v. Anderson (@Victory Field), v. Anderson // 25-20 last year

I think this is pretty solid depending on what the AZ schedule looks like.  The only thing I'd do is maybe dump Hanover or Edgewood for someone at least decent.  I don't need 6 games against door mats in the span of a couple weeks.  As Wabash grows I bet they start pushing the OOC harder.  It's a different mindset going from "Hey, let's win some games and hopefully go 22-20" to "We expect to be in the NCAC tourney every year and we need our OOC to get us ready to contend."  It seems like Martin is trying to push the program toward the latter. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on January 22, 2019, 10:33:04 AM
I do think the shift to round robin double headers in conference play has mitigated some of the pitching issues, not just with Wabash, but everybody.  The days of cramming four games into one weekend were just brutal.  Some of those Sunday games got out of hand. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 22, 2019, 10:39:17 AM
For me Wabash has always played some real head scratcher's. In the past they consistently had teams like Cleary and Illinois Tech on there schedule. Cleary is a a not so good NAIA team. Illinois Tech has had a few decent years but were again not a very good team. They in the WIAC I believe for one year before transitioning to the NACC.
I understand Hanover, as Wabash has played them reasonably often since the the IIAC, which disbanded in 1950. Then both were members of the Hoosier Conference/Hoosier-Buckeye Confrence.
IIAC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Intercollegiate_Conference
Hoosier:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier%E2%80%93Buckeye_Conference

Wabash really likes to hold on to Tradition, and plays some of the teams that were in those conferences every year. So I believe they will still continue to kind of round robin the other Indiana schools, by getting one or two of them on their schedule every year, however, I do not see the likes of Cleary and Edgewood being on their schedules very long. When they do travel they try to get to locations where they have Alumni, hence the short trips early in the spring, before the big trip to either Fla or Arizona.



Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 22, 2019, 10:43:28 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 22, 2019, 10:33:04 AM
I do think the shift to round robin double headers in conference play has mitigated some of the pitching issues, not just with Wabash, but everybody.  The days of cramming four games into one weekend were just brutal.  Some of those Sunday games got out of hand. 
I completely agree. However they will need to find time to get there 3 and four pitchers work. Those pitchers may be needed for the NCAC tourney and the NCAA. With games going to 9 innings (I think this is correct) it will make relieve pitching more important. Some of the 3 and 4 guys can get work in as relievers.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on January 23, 2019, 12:05:56 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on January 22, 2019, 10:39:17 AM
For me Wabash has always played some real head scratcher's. In the past they consistently had teams like Cleary and Illinois Tech on there schedule. Cleary is a a not so good NAIA team. Illinois Tech has had a few decent years but were again not a very good team. They in the WIAC I believe for one year before transitioning to the NACC.
I understand Hanover, as Wabash has played them reasonably often since the the IIAC, which disbanded in 1950. Then both were members of the Hoosier Conference/Hoosier-Buckeye Confrence.
IIAC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Intercollegiate_Conference
Hoosier:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier%E2%80%93Buckeye_Conference

Wabash really likes to hold on to Tradition, and plays some of the teams that were in those conferences every year. So I believe they will still continue to kind of round robin the other Indiana schools, by getting one or two of them on their schedule every year, however, I do not see the likes of Cleary and Edgewood being on their schedules very long. When they do travel they try to get to locations where they have Alumni, hence the short trips early in the spring, before the big trip to either Fla or Arizona.

More recently than 1950, Wabash and the other schools that regularly pop up on the schedule (Hanover, Franklin, RHIT, Manchester, Anderson) were members of the ICAC that lived until 1998.  The conference lost DePauw and RHIT to the SCAC, added MSJ and Bluffton, and changed their name to the HeartlandCAC (not just Indiana schools at that point), which obviously lives on presently. 

There may be something to that- Wabash playing those teams with the tinge of nostalgia around them, but I think it has more to do with proximity and convenience.  Spring trips are expensive.  Late February trips to find early season games are expensive.  When things in central Indiana finally thaw out later in March, staying close to home and getting midweek games that can be day trips are probably preferred (particularly if/when you might have to bump a game by a day or two because of weather).  I don't think past schedules were curated with much thought about SOS or regional rankings or other NCAA minutiae that teams that are regularly part of that tournament can afford to spend energy on.  With the current momentum in the program and a new forward-thinking AD, I think you'll see Wabash's future baseball schedules being crafted with more thought to the kinds of things that tournament-level teams think about.  More quality D3 opponents, less NAIAs and other non-D3s. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 23, 2019, 12:32:06 PM
I was certainly glad when Tanney was named AD. The gentleman before Tanney, I was never sure he understood Wabash culture.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: CollegeGolf18 on January 23, 2019, 01:28:58 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on January 23, 2019, 12:32:06 PM
I was certainly glad when Tanney was named AD. The gentleman before Tanney, I was never sure he understood Wabash culture.

I'm not so sure he understood much.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 23, 2019, 03:58:34 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 23, 2019, 12:05:56 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on January 22, 2019, 10:39:17 AM
For me Wabash has always played some real head scratcher's. In the past they consistently had teams like Cleary and Illinois Tech on there schedule. Cleary is a a not so good NAIA team. Illinois Tech has had a few decent years but were again not a very good team. They in the WIAC I believe for one year before transitioning to the NACC.
I understand Hanover, as Wabash has played them reasonably often since the the IIAC, which disbanded in 1950. Then both were members of the Hoosier Conference/Hoosier-Buckeye Confrence.
IIAC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Intercollegiate_Conference
Hoosier:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier%E2%80%93Buckeye_Conference

Wabash really likes to hold on to Tradition, and plays some of the teams that were in those conferences every year. So I believe they will still continue to kind of round robin the other Indiana schools, by getting one or two of them on their schedule every year, however, I do not see the likes of Cleary and Edgewood being on their schedules very long. When they do travel they try to get to locations where they have Alumni, hence the short trips early in the spring, before the big trip to either Fla or Arizona.

More recently than 1950, Wabash and the other schools that regularly pop up on the schedule (Hanover, Franklin, RHIT, Manchester, Anderson) were members of the ICAC that lived until 1998.  The conference lost DePauw and RHIT to the SCAC, added MSJ and Bluffton, and changed their name to the HeartlandCAC (not just Indiana schools at that point), which obviously lives on presently. 

There may be something to that- Wabash playing those teams with the tinge of nostalgia around them, but I think it has more to do with proximity and convenience.  Spring trips are expensive.  Late February trips to find early season games are expensive.  When things in central Indiana finally thaw out later in March, staying close to home and getting midweek games that can be day trips are probably preferred (particularly if/when you might have to bump a game by a day or two because of weather).  I don't think past schedules were curated with much thought about SOS or regional rankings or other NCAA minutiae that teams that are regularly part of that tournament can afford to spend energy on.  With the current momentum in the program and a new forward-thinking AD, I think you'll see Wabash's future baseball schedules being crafted with more thought to the kinds of things that tournament-level teams think about.  More quality D3 opponents, less NAIAs and other non-D3s.

Where Wabash is at a bit of a disadvantage is that they lack higher level OOC options nearby.  Denison can drive 30 minutes and play Otterbein.  Mount can drive an hour or so and play Wooster or Case.  The relative lack of strength of the HCAC doesn't help Wabash.  You're exactly right that proximity is probably the single biggest factor in OOC scheduling.  Heck, it's one of my main gripes with Mount every season...the seemingly unending string of playing Hiram and the western PA schools in OOC.  But it's because they're close. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 20, 2019, 10:56:16 AM
OWU finally has their roster out. Looks like there are 11 freshman. Senior class is pretty small.
https://battlingbishops.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on February 21, 2019, 02:34:00 PM
The NCAC Preseason poll (http://northcoast.org/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/PreseasonPoll) is probably about what you'd expect.  Wooster is a unanimous pick to win the league, followed by a split decision between Wabash and Denison for #2, then the rest.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 21, 2019, 04:12:50 PM
OWU picked to finish 8th.  What's going on in Delaware, BLD?  Are they just not getting the talent they once did?

Also, reading the preseason poll release I didn't realize Denison has never won an NCAC baseball title.  Of course I guess it is tough for everyone else when 2 schools have won 28 of the 34 titles.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 21, 2019, 09:22:35 PM
Not sure. The class after my son's was huge, and had, lots of talent. Since then I am not sure. They always have a couple of guys, however no depth.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 22, 2019, 10:25:29 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 21, 2019, 09:22:35 PM
Not sure. The class after my son's was huge, and had, lots of talent. Since then I am not sure. They always have a couple of guys, however no depth.

I guess I was surprised because I'm old enough to remember the Ingles era (and remember how great of a player Mott was for him).  In my mind OWU is always good to very good.  Mott has had a couple really nice years, but his career winning percentage is .536 which shocked me. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 22, 2019, 10:40:01 AM
OWU used to be a given for the conference tournament every year and one of the teams that seemed to be always in the mix for the #1 or#2 slot.  They have only made 2 of the last 6 tournaments and don't appear to have any momentum going in to this year.  Every team has some down years so maybe this is just a temporary lull.   As my brother-in-law says, "It's more about the Jimmys and the Joes than the Xs and Os".  OWU needs to have some greater success recruiting to get that depth that makes good programs succeed year after year.  Good luck to them as the conference always seems better when OWU is in the mix.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 22, 2019, 12:04:04 PM
OWU used to get many of the non D1 players from Central Ohio, reviewing the rosters those numbers have been going down. They still have quite a few Ohio players. But not like they used to. OWU used to consistently win 20+ games a year. Now it seems feast or famine.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 22, 2019, 12:11:31 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 22, 2019, 12:04:04 PM
OWU used to get many of the non D1 players from Central Ohio, reviewing the rosters those numbers have been going down. They still have quite a few Ohio players. But not like they used to. OWU used to consistently win 20+ games a year. Now it seems feast or famine.

It sure does.  The consistency is absent lately.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 22, 2019, 12:18:54 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on February 22, 2019, 10:40:01 AM
OWU used to be a given for the conference tournament every year and one of the teams that seemed to be always in the mix for the #1 or#2 slot.  They have only made 2 of the last 6 tournaments and don't appear to have any momentum going in to this year.  Every team has some down years so maybe this is just a temporary lull.   As my brother-in-law says, "It's more about the Jimmys and the Joes than the Xs and Os".  OWU needs to have some greater success recruiting to get that depth that makes good programs succeed year after year.  Good luck to them as the conference always seems better when OWU is in the mix.

It definitely seems like Denison has become that second program behind Wooster.  These things can be cyclical.  Look at Berg.  They were consistently very good under Palm, but when he stepped down they've been a little up and down under Fitzgerald.  In a competitive conference if you don't get droves of talent like a Wooster it's tough to separate yourself consistently.  Everyone has some dudes meaning that on any given day they can beat you.  You get a great class (like Oberlin in their magic season) and you ascend for a year or two only to drift back to the middle because someone else has a great nucleus now.  I don't envy the coaches.  These schools are expensive and not easy to get into to and you have to mine talent and depth from that pool.  Not easy.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 22, 2019, 12:55:10 PM
Well stated Dr.  It would be interesting to see if things change with the recruiting classes for Wooster in the next few years.  I believe Craddock does all of the legwork and he brought talent in to Denison when he the head coach for the Big Red, but Coach P is pretty gregarious to talk to.  The success of the program will bring good recruits to Wooster, but I have to think that he is the closer when the students are on campus. 

I am guessing that the rest of the NCAC will be somewhat happy with Coach Pettorini retiring and they will be hoping for more parity in the league as a result.  However, the best kind of parity is to bring the bottom levels up instead of the top level of competition down.  A competitive baseball conference, like the OAC has had, is the best for everybody.  The OAC typically gets 3 teams in Regionals, while the NCAC is limited to 1 or 2.  The three that got in last year was an anomaly.  I understand that many of the NCAC schools have academic requirements that may be a little more stringent than other conferences, but you should still be able to find 3-4 quality baseball players every year even with those requirements.  I am excited to see if Brua can get Hiram to a level where it can compete for a spot in the conference tournament, if not more. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 22, 2019, 03:25:22 PM
I usually, have compared the size of Rosters/classes between the OAC and NCAC every year. I believe as a general rule, at least it seems to me, is that roster sizes and class sizes in the OAC are generally larger in the OAC. That may go back to Pops point of entrance requirements.
However I can tell you OWU I do not believe is that much harder to get into than the OAC schools. I do know it is harder to stick. I know at least one player that moved from OWU (he was a starter as a freshmen) and moved to an OAC school to finish his eligibility. He was a starter at the OAC school as well. His problem was Academics. He had a hard time staying eligible at OWU. He had no such problems at the new school.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 22, 2019, 03:53:09 PM
In the OAC it varies by coach I think.  Berg always had a trimmed down roster by OAC standards (35-38 under Palm).  Etta did too.  Mount and BW always have a football team size roster.  I actually just looked last night because I wanted to see how many freshmen Mount brought in.  They didn't bring in a large freshman class (16) and they still have 56 kids on their roster.  I've seen seasons where it was over 60.  I often wonder how much of that is influenced by the administration.  Are some schools pushing their coaches to stuff their rosters in an effort to aid enrollment?
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 22, 2019, 04:56:57 PM
I always wondered that too. The year that OWU brought in a very large class, 25 I think. Was the year that they transitioned from Holloway to Watts. Watt did not have much time to recruit. I always thought that perhaps baseball and the other sports, may had to pick up the slack.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on February 22, 2019, 05:56:33 PM
woo is tough to get into and tougher to graduate.  Jr and Senior independent study is PHD grad school stuff.


recruited by Bob Morgan in the late 70s  Probably the second best team in the country but,never could get by Etta.

Coach P came in for my last 2 years  He tried to kill us with conditioning because he heard how tough Morgan was.


Pettorini is tough and fair. in 38 years he has never had a losing season.. Enjoy retirement coach. No more killers and champions
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 23, 2019, 08:46:55 AM
I was told by a former assistant at Mount that it uses athletics as a way to increase enrollment as a directive from the administration. Thus, the extra large roster sizes.  Conversely, Wooster indicated that they only bring in players they believe will have be able to play, which usually results in only 8-12 recruits per year.  I think you can use roster sizes as a general guide to see who does this, but I also know that some schools do even not list some guys on the roster if they believe the player will not even dress with the team that year.  So that guideline does not truly represent how many kids are brought in by the school. 

Both methods of recruiting have their pros and cons.  With the shotgun, mass recruiting approach, you are playing the numbers game in addition to focusing your efforts on some specific kids.  With the reduced number of recruits approach, you are able to focus a lot more attention on specific players.  it is also more attractive to an incoming player if you don't have multiple guys lined up at every position in just about every class.  Thus, the recruits have a greater chance of impacting the program with fewer kids comng in every year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 23, 2019, 02:23:33 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on February 23, 2019, 08:46:55 AM
I was told by a former assistant at Mount that it uses athletics as a way to increase enrollment as a directive from the administration. Thus, the extra large roster sizes.  Conversely, Wooster indicated that they only bring in players they believe will have be able to play, which usually results in only 8-12 recruits per year.  I think you can use roster sizes as a general guide to see who does this, but I also know that some schools do even not list some guys on the roster if they believe the player will not even dress with the team that year.  So that guideline does not truly represent how many kids are brought in by the school. 

Both methods of recruiting have their pros and cons.  With the shotgun, mass recruiting approach, you are playing the numbers game in addition to focusing your efforts on some specific kids.  With the reduced number of recruits approach, you are able to focus a lot more attention on specific players.  it is also more attractive to an incoming player if you don't have multiple guys lined up at every position in just about every class.  Thus, the recruits have a greater chance of impacting the program with fewer kids comng in every year.

The other thing to keep in mind regarding larger rosters is that those programs usually field a JV team and probably have separate V and JV practices.  For reference, it looks like Mount has 21 JV games scheduled this year. 

Mount has long been a large roster athletic department so that coach's comments don't surprise me.  Heck, they have 26 guys on the basketball roster (17 V, 9 JV).  Obviously being good helps with recruiting.  It makes it easier to choose to use athletics to drive admissions when by far your two best programs nationally are large roster sports (football and track & field).       
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 25, 2019, 09:48:19 AM
Excited to finally see baseball back in action.  Unfortunately, the NCAC has stumbled out of the gate, going 2-9 in the first weekend.  It was against some good competition, but this is not helping the out of conference records.  Several of the games were against southern teams, who have an advantage this early in the season.  I believe 20+ games are scheduled for this week and as long as the weather allows it the only teams not playing by the end of the week are Oberlin and Wooster. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 25, 2019, 12:27:10 PM
Craddock named interim coach at Wooster for 2019-2020 academic year. http://woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20190225fialjn
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2019, 12:29:44 PM
Yeah, Wooster usually starts late, and I am not sure about Oberlin. OWU start off on Saturday, against Thomas More, who beat Depauw, 5-3, 0-3. They are playing down in Kentucky. John Carroll certainly put a hurt on the Gators.
Denisons game with Ferrum was close. they play today at 1:00 pm.
Witt beat what was a better Earlham team, last year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2019, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on February 25, 2019, 12:27:10 PM
Craddock named interim coach at Wooster for 2019-2020 academic year. http://woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20190225fialjn

Good for them. I cannot see anyone else getting the permanent job. However I am not tied in to Wooster athletics like others.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2019, 01:54:07 PM
OWU partners with BSN/Nike
https://battlingbishops.com/news/2019/2/25/GEN_02252019.aspx
This affects all sports, but I post here mostly.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on February 25, 2019, 03:33:48 PM
Wabash won the second game of their opening series at LaRoche 7-3 earlier.  Rubber game is underway. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 25, 2019, 03:47:38 PM
Thanks Wally, I was actually following on Live stats. I was really happy when Jake Martin was named coach.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 27, 2019, 08:30:35 AM
OWU preview is out.
https://battlingbishops.com/news/2019/2/26/BA_2019pre_1.aspx
Not nearly the number of Central Ohio players you usually see in a preview for OWU baseball. Except the OF is All Central Ohio.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on February 27, 2019, 04:24:33 PM
Worst move ever naming Craddock interim coach for 2019. What recruit would come there not knowing who the next HC will be.AD Beckett says a nation wide search will go on. Really, you need 2 years to find a coach? give it to Craddock or name another HC.
You are setting back the program 10 years. Dark days ahead for Woo BB
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 27, 2019, 04:49:40 PM
I was a little surprised by that as well, but I can't imagine it'll set them back too much.  If they think Craddock is the guy then just name him successor now.  Put it to bed.  It seems like the administration wants to have one foot on each side of the fence.  We think we might want Craddock, but wait maybe let's just see who else applies too.  IMO this move tells me Craddock isn't the front runner I thought he was.  He very well may still get the job and his resume warrants strong consideration, but it seems like he is on even footing with everyone else at this point.  Does that perhaps mean someone with an equally strong resume and pedigree like Englander is interested?   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on February 27, 2019, 06:08:27 PM
I see your point but, if you have someone in mind why not offer now. If not start the interview process. Craddock is getting jerked around.No way should it that that long to find a coach. Recruiting will suffer.


Maybe they should start looking for the next hoop coach.  Steve Moore won't be there forever and Beckett needs plenty of time to get in front of this.


Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on February 28, 2019, 08:59:14 AM
I believe that Craddock is their choice.  However, the administration probably wants to see how it goes without Coach P in the building.  Craddock has been a head coach before, knows Wooster baseball inside and out, and does the lion's share of the recruiting.  He deserves the full time head coaching position.  I just think that they are covering their butts in case they see something they don't 100% approve of and then it gives them an opportunity to make a change.  They definitely did not approve of every single thing that Coach P did, but his results spoke for themselves.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on February 28, 2019, 10:51:25 AM
Agree that announcing an interim HC for 2020 before you've played a game in 2019 is weird.  It seems that Wooster has plenty of time (all spring, plus the traditional carousel season) to find the next HC, who is probably already in house.  I don't think it will ultimately matter in any meaningful way, it's just a wonky way to handle the transition. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 28, 2019, 12:47:07 PM
I wonder if it is just Wooster over thinking it.  They want Craddock, however they do not want to name him as Coach during Coach P's farewell tour. And they do not want to chance losing Craddock, to another school. (I cannot see why they would be concerned, he has stuck around this long.)
Or maybe Craddock does not want it. Is it possible he was so soured on being head coach, from his experience at Denison, that he just does not want to be Head coach long term? Is that the reason he has stayed at Wooster as an assistant for so long. With the success he had at Denison and the success, Wooster has had with him as part of the program, I have to imagine he could have had other opportunities to be a head coach if he wanted to.
I agree with others, it just seems odd.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on February 28, 2019, 05:03:34 PM
Is there something in his past that makes him so so  Don't know if he left Denison or was asked to leave. Woo athletic department needs to stand up to say this is our guy.

If not, get on with the search and name a coach at the end of this year.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 28, 2019, 05:24:53 PM
If he was asked to leave Denison that would be more of a black mark on the AD at the time than Craddock. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 28, 2019, 05:44:38 PM
There is some info way back on this Forum about Craddocks time with Denison. I do not have more detail than what was posted way back when.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 01, 2019, 12:20:23 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 28, 2019, 05:44:38 PM
There is some info way back on this Forum about Craddocks time with Denison. I do not have more detail than what was posted way back when.

You can read all the comments by searching for Craddock but here is the most pertinent post:

Craddock was forced out by the Denison Administration over a personal matter that I do not feel is appropriate to mention publically on this board.  The issue occured in 2006 or early '07 (before the season) and Craddock remained as coach of the Big Red through all of last season despite the occurence.  My sources tell me a disgruntled player and his parent then took the matter to the Dension Admin. and the force out resulted.  A sad situation if the story is indeed fact.  Craddock is very much respected as a coach by this particular poster and I hope he gets another shot as a head coach next season or even finds work at a higher level.  What he accomplished at Denison is what every lower-middle range program in the midwest would love to see happen to their program.

I've been sitting on this information for several months out of respect to Coach Craddock and my source hoping that the curiosity would go away but the interested baseball fans that you all are have brought the question back to topic.  Hopefully enough time has now passed and the issue is not as sensitive now as last fall.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 01, 2019, 06:22:42 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1101541976493699072

Owu season starts tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2019, 02:51:37 PM
OWU wins their opener against Thomas More 12-10.
https://mobile.twitter.com/OWU_Baseball/status/1101932150193078272?
No live stats or box score yet. Second game starts soon.
Go Bishops
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2019, 06:23:11 PM
OWU starts the season 2-0. The take the second game 11-4, from Thomas More.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2019, 09:03:59 PM
 Canyon McWilliams 1st baseman for OWU, went 8-for-11 and drove in 6 runs against Thomas More last weekend. Up next Capital.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 05, 2019, 12:13:19 PM
Some good wins for OWU against Thomas More.  Good to see the conference represent.  McWilliams had a really good year last year and would have been a 1st team all-conference most years and it looks like he has it going again this year. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 08, 2019, 01:00:04 PM
Current record in the NCAC:
Denison 4-1 two wins against Ferrum and Alfred St. Only loss is to Ferrum.
Kenyon 4-2 Wins against Houghton, Maritime, Lebanon Valley, 2 losses one against Wilkes and one against Lebanon Valley. Kenyon is playing the bulk of their schedule Now through march 24 th. They are playing 15 Games down south. When they get back it is mostly Conference games except.
Ohio Wesleyan: 2-0 Won both against Thomas More, Games against Capital were Postponed. Getting ready to head down to Florida, next game is in Mar 11.
Wittenberg 4-3 Wins against old NCAC foe Earlham, Sewanee, and Covenant. Losses to Sewanee, and Maryville.
Wabash 3-4 won, one against Rhodes,one against Carthage, and one against Gust. Adolphus. Losses 2 to Rhodes and 2 to Aurora.
Depauw 2-4 Started the season with 4 straight losses, Two to Thomas More, 1 to Birmingham Southern, and one to Northpark. Has come back with two straght wins against Mount St. Joseph.
Hiram 1-7 Started season with 7 straight losses, 3 to Merchant Marine, 2 to defiance 2 to Elms. Camr back with a win agains Rivier
Allegheny 0-5 Pretty tough schedule to start the year. lost 3 to John Carroll an then two to Case, Only one game was close, a 4-3 loss to Case.
Oberlin and Wooster have not yet started their seasons. Wooster starts on March 11 against a very tough opponent, Swarthmore. Oberlin starts tomorrow against Capital
Things will be rolling soon.







Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 08, 2019, 01:48:34 PM
Nice summary BLD!  It looks like they have played some good competition in the early going.  It is nice to see teams trying to have a good SOS, even if it results in an extra loss or two. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2019, 03:45:43 PM
Oberlin wins there first 2 by scrapping by Capital 8-7 in both games.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2019, 03:52:58 PM
Denison got 2 wins this weekend down in Athens against Wilmington 7-3 and 16-8. Brackman went 8 innings giving up 2 runs on 8 hits, in the opener. Game two was pitcher by committee with 8 pitchers going to the mound. Troll got the win by pitching 3 innings giving up 1 run on two hits while striking out 4. Pettigrew went 3 for 4 with three runs scored.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2019, 03:56:28 PM
OWU is under way down in Florida at SUNY Canton: https://rooathletics.com/sidearmstats/baseball/summary
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 11, 2019, 07:12:03 PM
OWU goes to 3-0, takes down the Roo's 14-2.
https://rooathletics.com/sidearmstats/baseball/summary;team=away
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 12, 2019, 08:22:36 AM
Wooster falls to #8 Swarthmore 13-6.  Wooster had a 3-2 lead going in to the 7th, but two walks and an error helped give up 5 runs in the 7th.  Six walks led to 6 runs in the 8th.  Also had 4 errors in the game.  Cannot win many games with that many mistakes.  First game of the season rust or jitters or something. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 12, 2019, 09:02:43 AM
Thanks for the update pops. All teams have now played at least one game.
OWU faces a usually tough Arcadia today at 10:00am.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 12, 2019, 09:35:31 AM
After starting out 0-4 Depauw has come back with 5 straight wins. 2 Against Mt. St. Joseph and 3 against Manchester. Manchester is currently 1-7, and Mount St Joseph is 1-4. Depauw does not head out for their spring break until Mar 24th.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 12, 2019, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: Pops33 on March 12, 2019, 08:22:36 AM
Wooster falls to #8 Swarthmore 13-6.  Wooster had a 3-2 lead going in to the 7th, but two walks and an error helped give up 5 runs in the 7th.  Six walks led to 6 runs in the 8th.  Also had 4 errors in the game.  Cannot win many games with that many mistakes.  First game of the season rust or jitters or something. 
I wonder what this will do to their ranking on the top 25. Swathmore had 4 games under their belt already.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 12, 2019, 12:30:17 PM
It will depend on the rest of the week of course.  They have two big games against #9 Johns Hopkins coming up.  If they win those and win out the rest of the week, they have a chance to stay at the top or close to it.  If they drop one or two more, probably closer to #10.  Just my guess.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 12, 2019, 12:57:14 PM
OWU drops their first game of the season  1-9 against Arcadia. Next up Scranton.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 13, 2019, 12:25:45 PM
Wooster came back with a win against Bridgewater St. 6-2. Brian Murray went 7 innings, with 5 hits,  earned Runs, 1 unearned with 6 Strikeouts, and 0 Base on balls.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on March 16, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
Wooster wins two games over #9 Johns Hopkins the last two days winning 5-2 on Friday and 13-7 today.  Hopkins' record was 9-1 and now stands 9-3.

Wooster is now 4-1 on the season and they face Eastern Connecticut State tomorrow.

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 21, 2019, 09:39:58 AM
Yikes.  Wooster dropped a pair of games to North Central yesterday, which makes 3 straight losses.  In the last 3 games, they have scored a total of four runs.  Their offense should come around, as they have a lot returning, including 2 preseason All-Americans in Harwood & Crum.  They did lose 3 of their first 6 hitters in the lineup, who were all 3 or 4 year starters and combined for 199 hits, 175 runs, 133 RBI, 79 XBH, and 41 SB in 2018.  Difficult to replace guys that really fill up the stat lines and have been there, done that.  My guess is that this is just an early season slump and Wooster has re-loaded the lineup with talented players finally getting their opportunity.  The four losses have all come at the hands of really good programs that usually are in regionals or at least in the discussion for regionals (Swarthmore, North Central, Eastern Conn St) so there is no reason to panic yet.  The last two games of the Florida trip are against 2 teams that a combined 16-4, so they need to get it going right away.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 21, 2019, 12:01:19 PM
It may take a little time for the new guys to settle in given they were combining the normal nerves of being a new starter with the added weight of being preseason #1.  Everyone is laser focused against you with that target on your back. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 25, 2019, 07:15:38 PM
Three unrelated items:

Denison has been impressive so far.  It looks like they're by far the biggest challenger to Wooster in the conference right now.

What the heck is up with Kenyon??  13-5!  Nice start for the Lords.  Couple nice wins over Immaculata.  And they just pounded Cap yesterday 19-7.

I watched Mount at Hiram yesterday.  Hiram has a couple players and their starter wasn't bad, but overall their talent level is not good at the moment.  Once Mount got to their bullpen they just blew the game wide open.  It's going to take Brua a couple classes to build some depth and a couple seasons more for that depth to grow up.  Luckily Hiram does not strike me as a place that won't give him ample time to build.  Jenter was there forever and they were never good then. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 26, 2019, 09:43:39 AM
Hiram has had some talented players, but the depth, as the Doc alluded to, has never been there.  I am optimistic that Brua knows that and will recruit well and have Hiram be more competitive.  The field renovation should help with recruiting as well. 

So far, only 2 teams have sub-500 records and they have a combined 82-61 record.  A good start for the conference before it gets into conference play this weekend.  I agree that Denison at 13-2 looks really good.  I also expect Wooster, DePauw and Wabash to be in contention for the conference tournament.  There will be one or two surprise teams in the mix, but I cannot get a good read on the rest of them yet.  This weekend's conference play should start to let us know.  Especially looking forward to seeing how Allegheny vs. Wabash and Wooster vs. DePauw play out.

My favorite time of the year. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on March 27, 2019, 06:58:09 PM
Woo beats Etta 8-7.. No info.  Saw the last 3 outs.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 28, 2019, 09:30:21 AM
Wooster played a very ugly game yesterday.  They had 6 errors plus several misplayed balls that led to runs.  They were saved by Harwood's 2 home runs and 5 RBI day.  I watched online, but it's obvious that they need to tighten things up a lot if they are to play like a top 10 team.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 28, 2019, 10:21:59 AM
The most impressive stat may be that with the 6 errors only 2 of Etta's runs were unearned.  Great job by the Scots' pitchers working around miscues behind them for the most part.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 29, 2019, 07:47:59 AM
Denison gets the headline on www.d3baseball.com.  https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/03/recap-03-28-2019.  They are worthy of the recognition as they look like the most consistently good team in the conference, if not the Mideast Region.  The big showdown with Wooster is not for another month and a lot of games need to be played before then.  Denison has doubleheaders with Wittenberg, DePauw and Allegheny coming up this week in conference play.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 12, 2019, 12:44:36 AM
Wooster is now 13-6 after back to back losses this week to BW and Ott.  I haven't been following the NCAC very closely so far.  Are they getting worried in Wayne County?  Or is the NCAC in a spot this year where it's just Woo and Denison then everyone else?  I saw Denison trounced Etta 11-2 to improve to a ridiculous 22-2 now.   
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 12, 2019, 02:04:55 PM
Woo is scuffling right now. Lost a lot from last year and have not been able to replace. We will see if the younger players show improvement. I guess its more important to make the NCAC playoffs and win. Over rated at the begining of the year and they seem light on pitching.Denison is a reAL THREAT. Should be a interesting season.

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Post by: old scot on April 13, 2019, 07:05:26 PM
Woo sweeps Bash 10-0 and 8-7.. Wind must have been blowing out at Art Murray  11 homers hit between the teams in the DH
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Post by: ADL70 on April 18, 2019, 09:51:53 PM
Spartans overpowered Scots today 21-10.  Out homering them 6-2, with three by Jake Ryan whose 4-4 day included a double in his last at bat and a slam by Casey McConihe. Art Murray Field is a launching pad. Scots are averaging over 1 HR/game.

Was supposed to be a rematch on Sunday in Cleveland, but looks like Wooster has an NCAC make-up conflict.

Spartans now have 25 dingers from 10 different players, led by Ryan's 8.
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Post by: Pops33 on April 29, 2019, 12:15:15 PM
Big doubleheader last Saturday with Denison playing at Wooster.  Denison took the early lead in the first game and looked like it was off to the races.  The Scots' offense came alive and powered back to a 16-9 victory.  The second game was little tamer, with Denison again coming out in front early and the Scots getting some clutch hitting late in the game to secure the 6-5 victory and the sweep.  Wooster now holds a 2 game advantage over Denison for the regular season title.

Other than the two losses to Wooster, Denison beat regionally ranked Heidelberg, John Carroll and Baldwin Wallace last week.  They are 30-5 and have 5 games left on the schedule.  Unless they completely fall apart, they should finish with their best record in school history and get a Pool C bid if they do not win the automatic bid from the conference tourney.  Their SOS is currently 96 and will probably get a little worse after this week as their last five opponents will not improve it.

Those two wins for Wooster were huge.  They have been a little inconsistent over the last couple of weeks and it usually comes in the mid week games where they throw a "staff day".  They have 8 games this week including 6 conference games so it could get a little dicey if their pitching is not strong this week.  Currently at 21-8, they need to pile up wins and to improve their overall resume.  Their SOS is currently 26, but will also fall a little this week.

I am interested to see how this DH sweep will affect the Regional Rankings.  Wooster went 3-0 this week and is now 5-6 vs RRO.  Denison went 3-2 this week and is now 4-3 vs RRO.
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Post by: old scot on May 01, 2019, 05:46:10 PM
just got home to see Woo split with Witt. Watched the bottom on the ninth. Woo down by to2. Solo homer to bring it to one.  Had the tieing run on first base but the next batter struckout looking..Should be a good finish in the NCAC. Seems like everything is up for grabs.






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Post by: Pops33 on May 04, 2019, 10:02:16 AM
Big weekend for the NCAC.  The regular season champion is still in play as there is only a 1 game difference between Wooster and Denison, with Wooster to play 4 games and Denison 2.  They are both locks for the conference tournament but it looks like 5 other teams are vying for the last 2 spots.  Exciting weekend for baseball.  Just hoping that they are able to play and does not get washed out.
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Post by: Pops33 on May 12, 2019, 09:31:10 AM
Conference tournament went to the full 7 games with Denison coming through the losers bracket to win the automatic bid.  It was clear that the two best teams are Wooster and Denison.  The big questions is does Wooster, in Coach Pettorini's last season, get an at-large bid regionals?  Their strength of schedule is now #6 in the country and they are 26-12.  For the first time in many years, Wooster did get in their full 40 games during the regular season, playing only 34 prior to the conference tournament, due to the weather.  They most likely would have won at least 4 of those 6 games and the 30 wins would have looked much better on their final record.  It is amazing that a bid to the post-season could come down to just 1 victory or loss during the year.  If they had beaten CWRU then I think they would be a shoo in, but even though their record is better than Case's (Woo 26-12 vs Case 22-13) and their strength of schedule is just 2 slots behind Case's, the fact that Case beat them during the regular season could be the deciding factor.  I honestly hope there is room for both teams.
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Post by: ADL70 on May 12, 2019, 09:43:16 AM
Berg  and BW are also looking for Pool C from ME.

CWRU has h2h over all three, but BW and Berg were both ahead of CWRU in 3rd RR.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on May 12, 2019, 10:01:06 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on May 12, 2019, 09:43:16 AM
Berg  and BW are also looking for Pool C from ME.

CWRU has h2h over all three, but BW and Berg were both ahead of CWRU in 3rd RR.

Ott winning the OAC didn't do the ME any favors.  The Cards had zero chance of getting a pool C.  Throwing an extra team who does into the pool just muddies the waters.  I would think CWRU at least jumps BW in the final RR with BW going 2 and out at home as the top seed.  Not a great showing.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on May 24, 2019, 09:49:07 AM
Denison had 5 position players make All-Region.  Their DH was a senior, but aside from that they had 2 juniors and 2 sophomores.  That's not a bad core to build around next year.  Deegan has that thing rolling now. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 15, 2019, 09:55:05 PM
OWU, alum, Michael Blatchford, signs first professional contract with the Gary Southshore Railcats.
https://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/railcats-ink-outfielder-blatchford-to-first-pro-contract/n-5538859
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Post by: CollegeGolf18 on August 17, 2019, 12:28:11 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on August 15, 2019, 09:55:05 PM
OWU, alum, Michael Blatchford, signs first professional contract with the Gary Southshore Railcats.
https://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/railcats-ink-outfielder-blatchford-to-first-pro-contract/n-5538859

TJ House is the opposing arm on the mound in this series that is starting. If I recall correctly he started 20 games in 2014? and had like a 3.2 ERA and was near the top of the leaderboard. Strange how he has fallen if that is him.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 19, 2019, 03:45:32 PM
Rest in Peace Kevin Schindler.
Kevin was an upperclassman when my son went to Ohio Wesleyan as a freshman. He was a wonderful mentor and friend.
http://www.jeffmonrealfuneralhome.com/obituaries/kevin-s-schindler/
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Post by: Dr. Acula on August 19, 2019, 04:22:59 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on August 19, 2019, 03:45:32 PM
Rest in Peace Kevin Schindler.
Kevin was an upperclassman when my son went to Ohio Wesleyan as a freshman. He was a wonderful mentor and friend.
http://www.jeffmonrealfuneralhome.com/obituaries/kevin-s-schindler/
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29 years old.  Absolutely terrible.  Sadly we lost one of our teammates at the same age.  It's heartbreaking. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 28, 2019, 06:59:16 PM
https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/08/swiney-hired-at_-mary-washington
Swiney a Gator alum and ex Head coach named head coach at UMW.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 24, 2019, 12:53:15 PM
Only 5 Pages behind the OAC Board now. Lets post. We can bypass the OAC if we try.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 24, 2019, 03:15:53 PM
OWU player playing in the independent league.  Michael Blatchford now on the SouthShore Railcats...

http://www.railcatsbaseball.com/meet-the-team/current-roster/index.html?player_id=147
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 30, 2020, 12:24:00 PM
Ohio Wesleyan's 2020 shedule is out:
https://battlingbishops.com/sports/baseball/schedule Looks like they are going to the Snowbird classic again. Good choice.
Looks like Calvin will make a swing through Ohio and indiana and play OWU at the end of February at Littick and also make a stop in Oberlin. Also newer to the schedule is Kean. The rest are the usual suspects.
I do not see this schedule improving there ISR over last year.
They will lose 3 players to graduation. Mcwilliams should be back for another year.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 04, 2020, 09:53:41 AM
Wabash's Roster is out.
https://sports.wabash.edu/sports/baseball/roster
Jake Martin seems to really be focusing on Indiana. Only one player on the roster outside the state. And that player is from MO.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 04, 2020, 09:56:27 AM
Looks like Wabash is going to Tucson AZ, again this year.
https://sports.wabash.edu/sports/baseball/schedule
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 04, 2020, 10:48:44 AM
Don't know because OWU has not posted their 2020 roster yet, however I think this is a pretty good pick up for them. Class of 2019, CRAIG ROCH, here is his report from PBR.
https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/OH/Craig-Roch-8915672340#tab2
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 04, 2020, 11:18:45 AM
Just cruising PBR's site. Wittenberg, according to PBR already has 7 Commitments for 2020.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 04, 2020, 11:54:24 AM
Looks like the NCAC has some players in the D3baseball.com 2020 Preseason All-America team. (Thanks for posting @jim Dixon)
https://d3baseball.prestosports.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2020

4 Players spread accross the three teams.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 05, 2020, 11:02:14 AM
Wooster Ranked 10 on first D3 top 25.
https://d3baseball.com/top25/2020/2020Top25-week-0


Denison also was named at 12.

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Post by: Pops33 on February 24, 2020, 09:11:36 PM
It was a rough opening weekend for the NCAC - Allegheny went 1-3 against John Carroll and DePauw went 0-4 against Emory and Oglethorpe.  Everyone else except Oberlin opens their season later this week.

Interesting pre-season coaches poll, Denison receiving 95 votes and Wooster received 94 votes.  As pointed out by Drew Pasteur on Twitter, this means that one of the coaches voted Wooster 3rd.  I would be very interested to find out if the coach actually thought 2 teams are better than Wooster this year or if the ranking was for a different reason.
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Post by: Shamrock on March 02, 2020, 10:40:28 AM
Wabash went 2-1 in their opening weekend; beating #8 Heidelberg 15-1 with six run innings in the 7th and 9th, beating UW-SP 5-4, before losing to Baldwin Wallace in a 6-0 shutout.

Next week in Arizona for the Little Giants.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2020, 12:55:30 PM
Both games at Littick PPD this weekend. They wil try again vs. Calvin again on Tuesday.
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Post by: Ralph Turner on April 13, 2020, 07:54:13 PM
Allegheny College graduate, 4-time NL All-Star and Gold Glove winning Chicago Cubbie, Glenn Beckert at age 79, RIP.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cubs/ct-chicago-cubs-glenn-beckert-dies-20200412-76inw23gmnghjgtdfdc45initi-story.html
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 16, 2020, 06:06:12 PM
Welcome to the Bishops
https://twitter.com/OWU_Baseball/status/1294315853224251397?s=20
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 17, 2020, 04:06:45 PM
Ohio Wesleyan Baseball (@OWU_Baseball) Tweeted:
Izaiah Withrow closes it down 1-2-3 and the Black Squad takes G1 of the Red/Black World Series 7-5! #RollShops https://t.co/foQo9F1bM3 https://twitter.com/OWU_Baseball/status/1317523851908186112?s=20
Still some d3 fall baseball going on.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 21, 2020, 10:56:28 AM
Want to watch some Baseball. Owu is Streaming Game 2 of the Red and Black World Series.
https://t.co/zvfjoaZdEl?amp=1
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Post by: Dr. Acula on December 12, 2020, 03:06:16 PM
Coaching HS travel ball the last few years now I've gotten a little more back in tune with HS ball.  I certainly don't follow recruiting daily, but I can tell you that Deegan is roping in some really good talent right now.  He's really building something at Denison.

Also, I have to say that Brua is doing a good job at Hiram with recruiting.  I'm not saying they're going to be battling the big boys, but he is grinding.  He's getting kids from high level travel programs.  Never a sure sign of talent, but it's a safer bet and more importantly he's getting in the door for future kids from those programs.

Fingers crossed we're talking about games in the spring!
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 12, 2020, 03:25:11 PM
Thanks Dr,
That Deegan is doing well is no surprise. He recruited my son, when he was an assistant at Marietta. He was very effective. One of the reason son did not end up there, is he felt Deegan was more interested, than the head Coach.
It is good to see that Denison, finally got there guy. I am happy to see him doing well.
I am hoping spring Baseball comes back. I still like ttraveling to Littick to watch games.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on December 12, 2020, 06:37:16 PM
Don't worry BLD, a certain level of disinterest in recruiting seems to be a Brewer trademark.  I remember hearing that same feedback way back when he was the HC at JCU.

I can tell you the only HC's I've seen at summer tournaments recruiting in central OH are Mott, Fitzgerald and Stechschulte.  Now I've seen a slew of assistants from nearly every school in that time, but those are the only HC's.  That doesn't mean as much as years past given how many travel teams and tournaments exist now.  The HC's could just be at different tourneys since there seems to be 4 going on every weekend in central OH.  Plus geographically Woo, Oberlin, Hiram, BW, JCU, Mount, etc. would be more likely to be recruiting in NE Ohio.   
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Post by: Pops33 on December 16, 2020, 12:56:57 PM
Glad to hear reports that Hiram may be getting stronger in the next few years.  Anytime a team that is usually at the bottom of the league standings gets better, the entire league gets benefits.  Better strength of schedule ratings for everyone and teams may be less likely to save their pitching for another opponent. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on December 17, 2020, 01:01:24 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on December 16, 2020, 12:56:57 PM
Glad to hear reports that Hiram may be getting stronger in the next few years.  Anytime a team that is usually at the bottom of the league standings gets better, the entire league gets benefits.  Better strength of schedule ratings for everyone and teams may be less likely to save their pitching for another opponent.

Very true.  It doesn't help anyone when a team (or teams) are just bad.  You just want to avoid the OAC dilemma where a bunch of teams are all pretty good to really good and you cannibalize your own best teams with the meat grinder conference schedule.  Hopefully you find that sweet spot where everyone is solid, but your top teams are still able to win 30+ overall for at-large bid consideration. 

I think the NCAC is on the upswing.  Hiram hopefully is making strides.  Denison seems to be ascending to join that perennial nationally ranked tier.  Witt should also hopefully be improving as McGee is also doing a nice job recruiting.  The one I'd like to see return to prominence a little more is Allegheny.   
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Post by: Pops33 on December 21, 2020, 12:46:10 PM
Me too.  I would like to see Allegheny get back to competing for one of the top 3 spots.  There used to be a good rivalry between the Gator and Wooster, but the current players at Wooster probably view Denison as their biggest rival these days. Being located close to Erie, Youngstown, and Pittsburgh should enable Allegheny to have good recruiting classes every year.  I just wonder how much all of the D2 schools in the PSAC interfere with them getting the local kids.  Ohio does not have that same issue, with only a few D2 schools. 

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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 21, 2020, 01:39:33 PM
I would like to see OWU get back to were they were. They need more depth. My son graduated in 2015. The recruiting class after his was very strong. That class was huge.
Holloway had just retired and I Watts was coming in. I don't believe Watts had the time to recruit that he needed, and the other sports picked up the slack.
Mott, has had some really good ballplayers, I just do not think there is the competition, internally that good teams need.
Just My Opinion.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on December 24, 2020, 10:24:36 AM
Quote from: Pops33 on December 21, 2020, 12:46:10 PM
Me too.  I would like to see Allegheny get back to competing for one of the top 3 spots.  There used to be a good rivalry between the Gator and Wooster, but the current players at Wooster probably view Denison as their biggest rival these days. Being located close to Erie, Youngstown, and Pittsburgh should enable Allegheny to have good recruiting classes every year.  I just wonder how much all of the D2 schools in the PSAC interfere with them getting the local kids.  Ohio does not have that same issue, with only a few D2 schools.

Just from the kids they spotlight on social media coming in it definitely seems Allegheny is very Pittsburgh area focused.  I almost think they should also hop over into Ohio a little more and try to find some kids that want to "go away" for college, but maybe not too far away.  Hit Cleveland, Youngstown, Columbus a little.  Their big challenge as you pointed out is they have the PSAC to contend with.  Throw in the non-NCAC programs in western PA (W&J, Thiel, Westminster, etc.) and they have a lot of competition.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on December 24, 2020, 10:41:27 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on December 21, 2020, 01:39:33 PM
I would like to see OWU get back to were they were. They need more depth. My son graduated in 2015. The recruiting class after his was very strong. That class was huge.
Holloway had just retired and I Watts was coming in. I don't believe Watts had the time to recruit that he needed, and the other sports picked up the slack.
Mott, has had some really good ballplayers, I just do not think there is the competition, internally that good teams need.
Just My Opinion.

This is something I've been interested in for a few years.  D3 roster sizes.  Since I'm into baseball and also an accountant I have a spreadsheet for it.  LOL.  It started because I was interested how each program dealt with roster size because there are usually large ranges within the same conferences.  For example, in 2020 the range was 33 (Musky) to 62 (Mount).  It sounds like OWU skews leaner on numbers most years.  Berg did the same for years including in their peak years, but they recruited so well that it worked for them.  Short of that it does seem the best path may be the large roster, only the strong survive model.  BW and Ott use it (both were just behind Mount).   
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Post by: Pops33 on December 28, 2020, 01:04:46 PM
I have heard that some schools get a directive from their administration to keep increased roster sizes for all of their athletic programs to help with the total enrollment of the institution.  This is a difficult dynamic as there are definitely some kids that may have been overlooked or did not develop enough in high school to warrant consideration from any schools, D3 included.  The increased roster size gives them a chance to work their butts off and eventually represent the school on the field.  However, there are also those kids that are being recruited to go to certain schools just to increase the numbers, with virtually no chance to reach the field.  I just hope the coaches that recruit these roster fillers are honest with the kids about their chances.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on December 29, 2020, 09:23:57 AM
There are definitely some schools where the administration strongly encourages large rosters.  I've heard this directly from a couple coaches (and not at Mount).  The biggest thing from a baseball standpoint is that it can be a strain on your assistants.  One, if you expect them to recruit bigger classes each year.  Two, if you have 60 players you're almost certainly running separate varsity and JV practices which falls on the assistants to organize and run.

The one thing I will say that I understand more as an adult than I did as a student is no cuts.  And I am very much anti participation trophy.  When there are 60+ kids on the team there are a few that you wonder if they played in HS.  But I remember Hesse telling us as freshmen that he would not cut any kid for baseball reasons.  The thought was that if you were willing to give up your free time everyday, be on time to practice, work hard at practice and keep your grades up you were honing skills beyond baseball and it was a D3 school so that's the point.  And in hindsight he was right. 
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Post by: Pops33 on December 29, 2020, 11:50:34 AM
I agree that team sports definitely provide some education, or life skills, that transfer to many different parts of a person's life.  I believe it provides the critical skills of learning to work with different types of people, learning what it takes to succeed, experiencing & overcoming failure, how to compete, and developing leadership skills, to name a few. My children will be involved in team sports as long as they are able to compete, be successful, and they still enjoy doing it.

Regarding the topic of roster sizes, it is probably not a one size fits every program.  Each coach/administration determines what is best for them to meet the goals of the program.  I think there is a point where a roster can be too small to have a continually successful program, probably around the 32 number.  Ideally, it is probably 35-45.  I also think that if the goal is to have everyone practice/develop as a team together, there starts to be diminishing returns beginning around the 40-45 player mark.  Just my personal opinion. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on December 29, 2020, 02:07:51 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on December 29, 2020, 11:50:34 AM
I agree that team sports definitely provide some education, or life skills, that transfer to many different parts of a person's life.  I believe it provides the critical skills of learning to work with different types of people, learning what it takes to succeed, experiencing & overcoming failure, how to compete, and developing leadership skills, to name a few. My children will be involved in team sports as long as they are able to compete, be successful, and they still enjoy doing it.

Regarding the topic of roster sizes, it is probably not a one size fits every program.  Each coach/administration determines what is best for them to meet the goals of the program.  I think there is a point where a roster can be too small to have a continually successful program, probably around the 32 number.  Ideally, it is probably 35-45.  I also think that if the goal is to have everyone practice/develop as a team together, there starts to be diminishing returns beginning around the 40-45 player mark.  Just my personal opinion.

I agree on the ideal "small" roster size.  Berg was usually around 40 kids in their peak days.  Another angle where the smaller roster helps is in the winter.  When you're competing with softball, tennis, indoor track, etc. for practice time in the fieldhouse being able to maximize each kid's reps during that time is big. 

I'm not familiar enough with the NCAC to know, but in the OAC there is a wide divide in terms of financial/administrative support of athletics.  The schools that financially promote sports like BW, Mount, ONU, JCU are going to have the full menu of roster options because they pay for a full-time assistant plus usually another part-time assistant or two.  Someone like Wilm may only give their HC one part-time assistant.  It's hard to manage a large roster with one part-time assistant. 
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Post by: Dr. Acula on January 06, 2021, 11:44:56 AM
As a little follow up to our roster discussion, I just looked last night and Ott has 20 freshmen this year.  Mount has 27.  Over the weekend I'll check the NCAC rosters and pass on anything interesting. 
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Post by: Pops33 on January 07, 2021, 10:36:13 AM
I went online and checked the rosters of the NCAC baseball teams.  Highest was Hiram at 27 (2020 roster as 2021 is not online yet).  This makes sense as it is a new coach and he is trying to impact the program.  Next is Wabash at 18 (2020 roster).  Oberlin has no freshman listed on their 2021 roster, but 18 Sophomores are listed.  The fewest number of freshman is Wooster at 7.  This also makes sense because when my son was being recruited by Wooster, we were told that they only recruit players that they feel will have an impact on the program.  FYI, OWU 9 (2020), Witt 10, Denison 12 (2020), Kenyon, Allegheny, Depauw (2020) are all at 14.
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 12, 2021, 07:53:39 AM
Typical Freshman Roster for OWU, in the past has been 9-12. OWU 2021 Roster will probably not be up until March. They are usually one of the last Rosters up in the NCAC.
IF you know a little about how webpages work you can get a sneak peak at some of the rosters for 2021.
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Post by: Pops33 on February 24, 2021, 09:33:50 AM
The first games for conference teams looks like this weekend with Wabash playing DePauw.  Great to see the boys playing ball again!  The entire conference schedule is here
https://northcoast.org/sports/bsb/2020-21/schedule

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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 01, 2021, 03:39:14 PM
NCAC is going back to East and west divisions at least for this year.
https://www.northcoast.org/sports/bsb/2020-21/standings
Many teams are only playing NCAC teams. OWU does have Case scheduled.
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Post by: Pops33 on March 02, 2021, 11:45:29 AM
Oberlin is not listed.   Their website shows that they have suspended their season due to COVID-19. Unfortunate situation for the players, especially since restrictions are gradually being lifted in Ohio and baseball is an outdoor sport.  Oberlin does have students residing on campus.  They have instituted some very rigorous guidelines for living on campus, but dorm life would seem to be a greater hazard than playing a sport outdoors.  Especially since baseball is also a sport where players are spaced apart from each other for 95% of the time.  Oberlin has some really smart people there, I am sure they could have come up with a way to navigate this situation, if they truly wanted to. 
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Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 02, 2021, 02:22:45 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on March 02, 2021, 11:45:29 AM
Oberlin is not listed.   Their website shows that they have suspended their season due to COVID-19. Unfortunate situation for the players, especially since restrictions are gradually being lifted in Ohio and baseball is an outdoor sport.  Oberlin does have students residing on campus.  They have instituted some very rigorous guidelines for living on campus, but dorm life would seem to be a greater hazard than playing a sport outdoors.  Especially since baseball is also a sport where players are spaced apart from each other for 95% of the time.  Oberlin has some really smart people there, I am sure they could have come up with a way to navigate this situation, if they truly wanted to. 
This does not surprise me at all. Oberlin has one of the more progressive campuses. As far as sports go there has always been not as much support as other schools. I am not making a judgement on wether that is right or wrong. Each school has to make there own descisions. I just feels that this fits in with the culture, in place.
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Post by: Dr. Acula on March 03, 2021, 03:55:39 PM
Yes, verrrry Oberlin of them.  I feel bad for the players and coaches.  I thought the OAC banning non-conference games was a bit much, but comparatively I should be happy I guess.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2021, 10:58:41 AM
NCAC did not ban out of conference games. However most of the Ohio schools are staying mostly in conference. OWU's only game outside the conference so far is Case. I think I said this before but this is going to make SOS interesting.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on March 07, 2021, 07:12:48 PM
CWRU has games scheduled with Hiram, Denison and Wittenberg, in addition to OWU.

https://www.d3baseball.com/teams/Case_Western_Reserve/2021/index
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 08, 2021, 03:09:09 PM
With it being relatively warm and sunny in central OH today I can't help but think baseball.  We're inching towards the starting line on the season for most us (I know DPU has already played).  With as anxious as I am I can't even imagine the players and coaches right now.  I actually watched some of the Mount vs. Musky softball DH yesterday while I was working.  I have to tell you it was pretty fun.  The second game was a good one and softball moves fast.  I may need to watch some more games.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 10, 2021, 09:08:51 AM
Hiram and Witt open today.  This feels good.  Let's play ball (finally).

I watched some of Hiram's sweep at Pitt Greensburg.  Any time a young coach takes over a program I like to pay attention to the classes of the kids playing.  Brua has been ramping up their recruiting and it showed in who was on the field today.  They used 7 different pitchers.  6 sophomores and 1 freshman.  Of the position players who had multiple PA the 15 broke down: 3 seniors, 2 juniors, 8 sophomores, 2 freshmen.  We'll see how this year goes, but it looks like they're trying to get their best young guys game experience quickly to hopefully build the foundation.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 10, 2021, 09:34:03 PM
Wow.  Nice win for Witt beating Akron 5-1 today.   :o
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 16, 2021, 09:00:02 AM
The Podcast about D3 baseball previews the Mid East region.  If you have never listened to these guys, who also run CespedesBBQ on twitter and have worked for MLB.com, you should give this a listen.  One of them attended Wooster and one of them pitched for Wash U.  They do a great job with the previews and giving attention to D3 Baseball.  They preview every conference and highlight some players as well.

https://d3baseballpodcast.libsyn.com/website
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 17, 2021, 08:37:26 AM
Quote from: Pops33 on March 16, 2021, 09:00:02 AM
The Podcast about D3 baseball previews the Mid East region.  If you have never listened to these guys, who also run CespedesBBQ on twitter and have worked for MLB.com, you should give this a listen.  One of them attending Wooster and one of them pitched for Wash U.  They do a great job with the previews and giving attention to D3 Baseball.  They preview every conference and highlight some players as well.

https://d3baseballpodcast.libsyn.com/website

I give them my endorsement.  They do a get job and another opinion on line about the D3baseball
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Billy Brubaker on March 22, 2021, 03:09:04 PM
Looks like Witt, Denison and Wooster got off to strong starts this past week. Excited to see things get interesting right out of the gate with Wooster and Denison matching up this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 29, 2021, 06:18:29 PM
That was a huge sweep for Denison yesterday.  It could have been crippling had they not answered the bell after Wooster took the first two in Granville on Saturday.  Now we've got a race.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Billy Brubaker on April 01, 2021, 05:20:10 PM
Looking forward to seeing how Witt does with 4 more against Case starting tomorrow...Off to a great start, curious to see if they're for real this year. Rivalry matchups with Wabash/DePauw & Denison/OWU as well should make for a great weekend.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: ADL70 on April 07, 2021, 08:11:40 AM
Witt and CWRU traded home sweeps to split season series 3-3. In Witt's three wins they scored an insane 41 runs, but Spartans scored 31 in it's three wins.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 10, 2021, 07:01:37 PM
I realize OWU has played Wooster, Denison and Witt already...but 1-13??  I don't care who you have left on your schedule that's not the recipe for a solid season when you've dug a hole like that.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 23, 2021, 04:02:49 PM
DPU takes a pair from Denison and the Scots are back on top of the standings.  I was looking at the schedules and I can't pretend to understand what games against NCAC foes count as conference games.  Both Wooster and Denison have Witt remaining so we'll see how Witt measures up with the big boys finally.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on May 21, 2021, 01:21:07 PM
Two walkoff wins in the first 2 games of the conference tournament is awesome! Denison won the first won and Wooster won the nightcap.  Both in extra innings. Fun day for baseball.  Today should be another barnburner.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on June 01, 2021, 09:40:32 AM
I just have to say that each year I am more and more impressed with Mike Deegan.  He is without question one of the best coaches in the country.  If he has aspirations of coaching at the D1 level I cannot think it will be too long before that opportunity arises.  He continues to prove that he is a leader and someone that knows how to recruit and develop his type of kids to produce a winning culture.  Very impressive program.

And not to be overlooked, I also think McGee is pushing Witt in the direction of contending with DU and Wooster regularly in the future.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on March 07, 2022, 12:45:10 PM
The NCAC is starting off in a good way this year.  So far the teams are 22-11.  Hope it will continue for the conference's sake, will help with strength of schedule.  Denison and OWU both 3-0, Wittenberg 2-0, and Wabash 3-1 to lead the league.  Looking forward to see if anyone will challenge Denison and Wooster at the top of the conference.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 17, 2022, 09:12:30 AM
What is going on with OWU?  They got run ruled by Capital yesterday 13-3.  Capital is not good so it got me curious and I hopped onto OWU's schedule.  They are 3-6 and giving up a boat load of runs (over 11 per game).  This is coming off an 8-23 season last year.  Hopefully just a rough patch because that's a program the NCAC used to be able to count on if not to contend to at least be a good program year to year and boost the SOS.

As for the rest of the conference, I haven't followed it closely but it certainly appears Deegan has the Big Red humming again this spring.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on April 13, 2022, 10:17:54 AM
Big Northeast Ohio matchup today with CWRU playing Wooster.  Based on when he last pitched, it appears that Former Fighting Scot Evan Faxon will be on the hill today against his alma mater.  It is always an interesting matchup but that should put a little extra spark into the game.  The win would look good on either team's resume.  CWRU (15-13) has played the most difficult schedule in the country, but a .500 record may not be enough to get into the postseason.  Wooster (13-8) has stubbed their toe a couple of times and need to get on some sort of winning streak if they don't want to put all of their post-season hopes on winning the NCAC tournament. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on April 14, 2022, 11:02:05 AM
Wooster prevailed in the matchup with CWRU, winning 8-6 in a back and forth contest.  For those interested, Faxon did not start, but pitched one inning in relief, in what looked like a planned bullpen game.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on May 03, 2022, 02:50:42 PM
To borrow the golf terminology, Wednesday could be "moving day" in the conference standings:

Denison 12-2
Wittenberg 11-3
Kenyon 10-4
Wooster 9-5
Allegheny 8-6
Depauw 8-6

Denison has Oberlin tomorrow so they should sweep and stay atop the standings, and play Wabash this weekend.  It s a good bet that they stay the #1 seed for the tournament.  The next four teams, play each other.  Wooster travels to Witt and Kenyon travels to Allegheny.   All four of these teams are in control of their own destiny.  Depauw plays rival Wabash and cannot afford another loss or they may be out of contention. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 16, 2022, 09:15:41 AM
I watched a fair amount of the NCAC tourney this weekend.  If I picked it up correctly the guys calling the games were one from Denison and one from Wooster.  The SID I believe they mentioned.  Anyway, those guys did a really nice job on the call. 

I think the NCAC and OAC will both be 2 bid leagues so good luck to our 4 Ohio squads.

Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on May 23, 2022, 08:59:43 PM
Wow. Woo loses the the first game then comes back to win 4 in a row. Don't know what to make of this team. Splits with middle of the road NCAC teams but they seem to pull out wins when needed. Way to go Scots. Put your head down and keep grinding
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on May 27, 2022, 09:21:29 AM
I agree, the Scots are tough to figure out.  They have some dynamic players on offense and can put up a lot of runs.  It's the pitching that has been the question all year.  A couple of them stepped up in their four game win streak in regionals.  Hope that they can get good pitching against Salisbury and give themselves a shot at going back to the World Series.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 28, 2023, 11:07:54 PM
It's almost April.  I don't recall the last time Wooster was in the basement of the NCAC standings this late.  In their defense they've lost to a lot of good teams though.  Once conference play starts I have a sneaky suspicion they climb the standings.  Call it a hunch.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on April 01, 2023, 05:30:36 PM
Scots pitching doesn't seem to be very strong so they will probably struggle the whole season.

If the Scots can't pull out of this funk it will be the programs first losing season in 47 years..... All good things come to an end.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 01, 2023, 10:35:25 PM
Even if they have a down year I'd think it's a blip.  Craddock can coach. This isn't gonna be the new norm.
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Pops33 on June 01, 2023, 01:19:34 PM
Craddock is out as the College of Wooster head coach.  Story here.  https://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/bsb/2022-23/releases/20230531sit64v

They do not give a reason.  Wooster was only 3 runs short from going back to the College World Series in 2022, losing to the eventual runner up Salisbury.  Definitely think this year was a blip.  Pretty sure there were some injuries to key players as well. 
Title: Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Acula on June 03, 2023, 05:12:56 PM
That story certainly seems to make it sound like he was let go.  Unfortunate to see especially if it was based on this season mainly.  That's a great gig for somebody.  Hope they have someone in mind with it being the heat of their recruiting season right now.