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Central Region / Re: MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Last post by AndOne on Today at 02:06:54 am »
My understanding is that a couple of scholarship offers had been made before the about face. Not sure if any were accepted as yet. Also, I believe the plan was to only have a few scholarships available to be offered for the 2019-2020 school year with an increased number in future years.

* The numbers I reported for Fall 2014 through Spring 2018 were obtained from a document authored by the Vice President of Enrollment Management and Admissions.

* The 35% figure came from a December, 2017 memo on enrollment goals issued by the Administration which was sent to various “members of the BU community” (donors?). 

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Herman and the Hermits say “Hi!”

http://d3football.com/top25/2018/week4

Oz,

I love you brother but it ain't Herman and the Hermits, it's Herman's Hermits.

And my favorite song of theirs: No Milk Today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LesWfbkJJlQ
I think Oz was calling them by their original name. It lasted about 10 minutes :D
The bathtub empties in the other direction down there also.  :)

Exactly.  I was going old school.  They sold out when they shortened the name.
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South Region football / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
« Last post by bleedpurple on Today at 12:53:13 am »
I talked with Jase after the game he wasn't pleased with his performance. He wouldn't even talk about the big 2nd qtr. Good thing is the defense has been solid, special teams are dangerous, if the opposing D takes away the pass we can run, if they take away the run with a 7 man front we can pass. Nice combination to have if you root for the The CRU.

Did he go in depth on TD number 5 up 40-17 with 14 seconds left?
Rumor has it the coaches watched Glen Caruso motivational videos in the absence of
Coach Pete. Stay classy CRU.
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It’s early this year but it’s here.

Bell week!

A little primer: https://youtu.be/oRm7Ox4Ch0o

LET’S ROLL!

Yes.  The Bell should be the complete focus of this board until The Game is finished.



North Central beat North Park, 35-0, at Hedstrand Field. The game went about the way everyone expected it'd go, except that it took NCC awhile to get its offense cranked up. I'd like to say that that was due to the NPU defense, but, realistically, North Central just wasn't playing well. The Cardinals racked up a bunch of penalties in the first half; a lot of laundry got picked up as well, as I don't think I've ever seen as many flags waved off in a half as I did in the opening half today.

NPU had a couple of chances to make it interesting when the score was still competitive, but the Vikings squandered the opportunities. Five minutes into the game the Vikings recovered a punt at the NCC 14 that had hit the ankle of a North Central downfield blocker, but two plays later the Vikings fumbled the ball away at the 12. And at the start of the second half, with NCC up, 14-0, the Cardinals fumbled away the opening kickoff, with NPU recovering at the NCC 19. Unfortunately, on third down Grant Borsch threw into a double-team in the end zone that resulted in a Cards interception and touchback. Realistically, neither red-zone turnover would've made a difference, since it was almost inevitable that the North Central juggernaut would eventually run over the Vikings, but it would've been nice to come away with something to show for the effort.

First-half hiccups aside, North Central did nothing to dissuade people from the idea that the Cards are a legit Top Five team. For the Vikings, just coming out of the game healthy with a game against a top-notch opponent under the belts of a young Vikings team to build upon was probably the best that they could've expected under the circumstances.

GS---enjoyed the broadcast again this year.  Good luck to NPU the rest of the way.  I'm sure I will tune in from time to time as I would much rather watch CCIW than the D1 I find on TV.

Thanks!
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I on case no one saw the tweets or the front page: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/09/benedictine-to-return-to-d3

Well this is an interesting development.  I'd be curious on your take as to why the switch back to d3. My totally out-from-left-field take is that the former president really wanted the move to d2 but not all the trustees were on board, but who knows.
In any case I am very interested in a book or paper that is out there which deals with the financial effects of college athletics on the schools; the effects on enrollment, income, expenses, etc., (because I would guess that played a part in Benedictine's moves as well). Any suggestions?

I've said it on a few boards already, but it bears repeating. First off, I can't share a lot that I have gathered as of right now, but there will be more in the future.

However, the president's departure isn't the cut and dry reason for this decision. There is a lot more involved for starters.

As for your second part, I have learned there was a solid plan in place at BU and it was working well. It doesn't sound like the plan or BU's prep work was the cause here. We may hear that from another DIII to DII school, but I don't think that will be the reasoning from BU when that report becomes more public.

Thanks for what you have been able to share for now, Dave.   
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I on case no one saw the tweets or the front page: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/09/benedictine-to-return-to-d3

Well this is an interesting development.  I'd be curious on your take as to why the switch back to d3. My totally out-from-left-field take is that the former president really wanted the move to d2 but not all the trustees were on board, but who knows.
In any case I am very interested in a book or paper that is out there which deals with the financial effects of college athletics on the schools; the effects on enrollment, income, expenses, etc., (because I would guess that played a part in Benedictine's moves as well). Any suggestions?

I am weighing in here on two aspects:

First, agree with you RFMichigan.  One might speculate (and it would be a legitimate consideration) that perhaps they realized that they would quite possibly get killed in DII, although as Pat pointed out, that might not necessarily be the case once they started handing out the scholarships and having the opportunity to recruit players with better talent to be in DII.  On the other hand, I personally think it was probably more due to exactly what you speculated on i.e. the now former President wanting the move more than the other trustees (although that would beg the question as to why they voted for the move in the first place. Did they feel pressured into it OR was it one of those, gut feeling "change of mind" incidents such as when head coaches have accepted an offer from another school, but then change their mind the next day or two to stay at their current schools.  As you mentioned, it would be most interesting to hear the real truth about why this decision was made.  Also, I am curious as to why the former president left so abruptly last month.  Does anyone know any further information?

Second, and I am late here on this one-although perhaps not since Eureka and all our MIAA teams had their "bye" weekends yesterday.  I'll try to make this [somewhat short ::) ;D :)]  We all know that Finlandia is a team/program that is, unfortunately, still in the building stages.  I do believe (am confident and hopefull] they will improve in time.  That said, here is my question, which is sort of a "combination" question and question for the sake of discussion.  Finlandia got crushed by Concordia-Wis, the latter which is not a very good team IMO as Hope smashed them in the last game of the season last year, although it does appear that Concordia-Wis is somewhat better this year.  So then Concorida-Wis beats Alma (although not by much), the latter which is in a rebuilding mode (again), not a great team, although I believe the will give our MIAA teams a good challenge in our league games (in other words, no one should take them lightly.)  Then Eureka comes in and beats Finlandia, but not by, what I would call, a crushing score.  By that I mean if Concordia creams Finlandia by as much as they did, where does that put Eureka so far, your opinions?

I realize several have opined their thoughts on Eureka earlier on this board.  Personally, I believe they are a good team and have an excellent chance of winning your league title in their first year in the league this fall.  They might even "run the table" as Ryan Stoppable suggested.  I think that is possible, although still will be a tough challenge.  Anyway, it is still early, I know, however, I was just curious as to your thoughts for the sake of discussion and, at least, for this present time, as Eureka is 3-0. 
When it's time to pick bowl winners in those end-of-the-season bowl challenges and whatnot the first thing I usually take into consideration is the two teams' conference membership, and I think this notion applies here as well. In this case the operative term would be "NACC" as it's just not a very strong conference for football. (One of the weakest in the nation from what I'm told.) Eureka could well come in and win it in their first year, especially as there's not a clearly dominant team in this conference (comparatively speaking ) as there is occasionally.

Concordia - Wis. has a veteran QB and that probably goes a long way in this conference, but I'm not sure yet if they're the cream of the rest of the NACC crop. I mean, the NACC teams only beat six teams in their composite non-conference schedule and those six teams only have a total of four wins themselves (and one of those wins was against another of those six teams.) To figure relative strengths of NACC teams is pretty tough at this point.

Good luck to your Flying Dutchmen. I hope (no pun intended) to catch them in a MIAA conference game this year.
I don't think we can play comparative scoring margin when Finlandia is on the field.
CUW beat Finlandia 31-3, Eureka beat them 34-12. I don't think any conclusions can be drawn from that.

Week Four score:

Lakeland 12 (0-3)
UW-Platteville 49

The Muskies offense is having a hard time staying on the field this season with their inability to complete passes - 10 for 37 in that game. And now, there's no more time to figure it out.

In my opinion, the non-conference season has asked plenty of questions across the league; next week, we should get some answers as the teams who have gotten off to the best starts (relatively speaking - the NACC did go 7-14 in non-conference play with 2 of the wins at Finlandia's expense) face two of the projected contenders who are each seeking their first win.

While we all know that comparisons like this are not the true measure and rather just impressions/speculative opinions.  That said, I still believe a comparison to some degree can be made in some of these types of situations.  Obviously, I have not seen either Eureka or Concordia-Wis this year or past year in person (although I did see the latter when they played us at home two seasons ago, yet obviously that can't even be considered here).  But from what I've read/seen about Eureka and what I saw from Concordia at their last game last year, I just do not think Concordia is a very good team, great Sr. QB they have or not (no disrespect to them, but rather just my own opinion).  In reviewing everyone's answers here, you are probably right as the difference in score was not much 31-3 versus 32-12 does not make much of a comparison.  I realize that many people on these boards are not fans of this type of comparison, however, I do believe at times such can be made.  Perhaps this is just not one of them. :)  Anyway, I just posed the question because a) for some discussion and b) I was interested in your opinions and those of you who responded have now told me. 
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North Region football / Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« Last post by formerd3db on Yesterday at 11:48:42 pm »
I don't think we can play comparative scoring margin when Finlandia is on the field.

Sure we can, Pat.  It's just for discussion! ;)  You know as well as I do that anything goes with Finlandia this year, and it is not going to be that good. ::)
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Men's soccer / Re: Mid-Atlantic Region
« Last post by D3soccerwatcher on Yesterday at 11:10:02 pm »
Messiah defeated Misericordia, 4-1. West got the first and last goals--and (I think) also got woodwork on what would have been a great goal, but it stream wasn't clear enough to be sure it was him. Misericordia got a nice goal on a counter to tie it early in the second half, before Messiah turned it on.

Following the Thursday's game with York, I noted that Cooper Robbins played significant minutes while not starting, and once he was fully back they might put Luke Grootoff further up. They did today. Cooper started, and Luke was an attacking MF, and he scored his first two goals for Messiah. The first, a header off a rebound on a corner kick, might represent the first Falcon goal on a corner since some point in 2016. I haven't seen all of the goals this season, so I can't be sure. But, they had zero goals on corners all last year and so far this year I don't remember another one. Luke scored again a few minutes later with his feet on another rebound. His presence up front is obviously felt immediately. This is a good sign for Messiah: Nick West has some reliable scoring help.

L. Groothoff played most, if not all, of the game on Saturday at defensive mid.
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OT:  And I thought the MN Vikings had a completely miserable first half.  Then there is Saint Norbert 91, Defiance, 0.

Grinnell, rather than Defiance.
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I on case no one saw the tweets or the front page: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/09/benedictine-to-return-to-d3

Well this is an interesting development.  I'd be curious on your take as to why the switch back to d3. My totally out-from-left-field take is that the former president really wanted the move to d2 but not all the trustees were on board, but who knows.
In any case I am very interested in a book or paper that is out there which deals with the financial effects of college athletics on the schools; the effects on enrollment, income, expenses, etc., (because I would guess that played a part in Benedictine's moves as well). Any suggestions?

I've said it on a few boards already, but it bears repeating. First off, I can't share a lot that I have gathered as of right now, but there will be more in the future.

However, the president's departure isn't the cut and dry reason for this decision. There is a lot more involved for starters.

As for your second part, I have learned there was a solid plan in place at BU and it was working well. It doesn't sound like the plan or BU's prep work was the cause here. We may hear that from another DIII to DII school, but I don't think that will be the reasoning from BU when that report becomes more public.
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