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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35025 on: October 12, 2017, 07:01:08 pm »
Aren't most schools landlocked?
I would think something like this would greatly depend on how supportive the EC President and Board are of athletics. I know that at NCC the current President, and even moreso the recent past President, supported athletics very strongly. However, despite their strong support, both took the position that academics come first. Accordingly, for a long time it was basically "the next time we get the money bucket filled, we're building a new (the old one was built in 1070) science hall." Accordingly, the newest building on campus is the the recently opened 125,000 sq foot, $60 million dollar Wentz Science Center rather than placing a dome over the football stadium or replacing the 86 year old Merner Fieldhouse, affectionately referred to by many as "The Hangar."
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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35026 on: October 13, 2017, 07:57:50 am »
Not sure Iíve ever seen less chatter before an NCC/Wheatie game.   This game shouldíve been a game between two top 5 nationally ranked teams.   I have no doubt the turmoil the hazing scandal had a part but injuries have hit Wheaton hard.   Sounds like they may get some of those back this week so thatís something to keep an eye on.   Wheaton will be ready to go and this will still be a great game and the Cards will have to be on their game to survive an always difficult place to play.  Cards have had their own injuries and the loss of WR Ryan Kuhl has been as big as any of them.   Iíve counted as many as 4 freshmen WRís in the game at a time.   Theyíve stepped up and played well but they need to take another big step on Saturday against a very good defense.   I believe the Offensive Line for the Cards is the key to this game.  They struggled against the Wheaton front in the playoff loss last year.  They have hopefully learned from that and will be ready.   Iím expecting a hard hitting and close game.   Cards by 3

I expect a close game as well.  We should find out if the Cards deserve the lofty #4 ranking. 

5-0 is great but I see lots of questions . Normally I think of the #4 team as a dominant group.  I haven't seen that out of NCC.  There are wins,but some struggles.  Like the second half collapse that almost led to a loss to a bad (1-5) Robert Morris team.  Being down 10-0 at the end of the first quarter to a 1-5 Wash U squad. Needing two offensive pass interference calls to escape IWU. 

With that said, if the Cards can get out of Wheaton with a win, its a great season.  However, the jury is out on whether this is a team that can make a deep playoff run.
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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35027 on: October 13, 2017, 08:50:53 am »
Not sure Iíve ever seen less chatter before an NCC/Wheatie game.   This game shouldíve been a game between two top 5 nationally ranked teams.   I have no doubt the turmoil the hazing scandal had a part but injuries have hit Wheaton hard.   Sounds like they may get some of those back this week so thatís something to keep an eye on.   Wheaton will be ready to go and this will still be a great game and the Cards will have to be on their game to survive an always difficult place to play. Cards have had their own injuries and the loss of WR Ryan Kuhl has been as big as any of them.   Iíve counted as many as 4 freshmen WRís in the game at a time.   Theyíve stepped up and played well but they need to take another big step on Saturday against a very good defense.   I believe the Offensive Line for the Cards is the key to this game.  They struggled against the Wheaton front in the playoff loss last year.  They have hopefully learned from that and will be ready.   Iím expecting a hard hitting and close game.   Cards by 3

I must have overlooked this initially..what happened to Kuhl?
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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35028 on: October 13, 2017, 09:16:47 am »
Not sure Iíve ever seen less chatter before an NCC/Wheatie game.   This game shouldíve been a game between two top 5 nationally ranked teams.   I have no doubt the turmoil the hazing scandal had a part but injuries have hit Wheaton hard.   Sounds like they may get some of those back this week so thatís something to keep an eye on.   Wheaton will be ready to go and this will still be a great game and the Cards will have to be on their game to survive an always difficult place to play. Cards have had their own injuries and the loss of WR Ryan Kuhl has been as big as any of them.   Iíve counted as many as 4 freshmen WRís in the game at a time.   Theyíve stepped up and played well but they need to take another big step on Saturday against a very good defense.   I believe the Offensive Line for the Cards is the key to this game.  They struggled against the Wheaton front in the playoff loss last year.  They have hopefully learned from that and will be ready.   Iím expecting a hard hitting and close game.   Cards by 3

I must have overlooked this initially..what happened to Kuhl?

A leg injury that did not look pretty. 
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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35029 on: October 13, 2017, 11:25:13 am »
Aren't most schools landlocked?

Many are. Some aren't. I can remember going up to Mequon, WI a few years ago to call an NPU @ CUW game, and seeing a vast woods behind the football stadium. Olivet's got a whole lotta empty around its athletics fields, too. Those are just two schools that come to mind. Of course, empty land still has to be purchased in order to build athletics facilities on it. But it's typically (although not always) easier to acquire undeveloped land than it is to buy land upon which something's already been built.

And not all developed land is the same. If you're trying to purchase adjacent property in a small town or in a run-down, medium-sized city, you're facing a completely different situation than you would if you were trying to buy adjacent land in some tony suburb, as would be the case for Lake Forest College, or in a highly-built-up residential neighborhood in one of the better parts of a major city (i.e., North Park or the University of Chicago).

I've gotta figure that land around Elmhurst College is fairly pricey, since the EC campus is both bordered by a solidly middle-class neighborhood and by the village's downtown, plus it's very close to one of the primary draws of the village, the Metra station. I think that Elmhurst's best bet is to try to buy up the cemetery next door to Langhorst, because I don't think that the current occupants would complain too much. ;)

I would think something like this would greatly depend on how supportive the EC President and Board are of athletics. I know that at NCC the current President, and even moreso the recent past President, supported athletics very strongly. However, despite their strong support, both took the position that academics come first. Accordingly, for a long time it was basically "the next time we get the money bucket filled, we're building a new (the old one was built in 1070) science hall." Accordingly, the newest building on campus is the the recently opened 125,000 sq foot, $60 million dollar Wentz Science Center rather than placing a dome over the football stadium or replacing the 86 year old Merner Fieldhouse, affectionately referred to by many as "The Hangar."

There's more involved in that equation than simply having a president who "supports athletics", though, because for many schools on the D3 level athletics is more than simply wins and losses -- a lot more. It's also a drawing card for potential and current students, which is especially important at schools with modest unrestricted endowment funds that thus have need of tuition revenue to help maintain the annual budget.
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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35030 on: October 13, 2017, 01:05:23 pm »
Elmhurst is very expensive.  Many (like us) can get more bang for your $$ by living in the suburbs west of Elmhurst (I.E. Villa Park, Lombard, etc.)    One of the nice features of Elmhurst is how the college fits in with the community. 

I personally, would not be in favor of a domed Langhorst Field. I like the environment as it is now.    It is just an idea being tossed around in the Master Plan "scope".   Elmhurst would need a huge Philanthropist to do it.   Like AndOne mentioned,   Elmhurst is Academics first,  Athletics second and always will be.   
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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35031 on: October 13, 2017, 01:45:43 pm »
Accordingly, for a long time it was basically "the next time we get the money bucket filled, we're building a new (the old one was built in 1070) science hall."

That explains North Central's class schedule including "Understanding the Humors" and "The Preservation and Use of Leeches."
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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35032 on: October 13, 2017, 02:08:59 pm »
Accordingly, for a long time it was basically "the next time we get the money bucket filled, we're building a new (the old one was built in 1070) science hall."

That explains North Central's class schedule including "Understanding the Humors" and "The Preservation and Use of Leeches."

And further substantiates the adage "they don't build them like they used to." 😊
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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35033 on: October 13, 2017, 02:50:31 pm »
Accordingly, for a long time it was basically "the next time we get the money bucket filled, we're building a new (the old one was built in 1070) science hall."

That explains North Central's class schedule including "Understanding the Humors" and "The Preservation and Use of Leeches."

My understanding is that CardinalAlum was an alchemy major, and that kiko was on the intramural jousting team.
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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35034 on: October 13, 2017, 03:27:07 pm »
Accordingly, for a long time it was basically "the next time we get the money bucket filled, we're building a new (the old one was built in 1070) science hall."

That explains North Central's class schedule including "Understanding the Humors" and "The Preservation and Use of Leeches."

My understanding is that CardinalAlum was an alchemy major, and that kiko was on the intramural jousting team.

Correct.  But we lost some of our practice space because that was right around the time that Al Carius arrived and began turning around the cross country program.

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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35035 on: October 13, 2017, 03:29:46 pm »
Accordingly, for a long time it was basically "the next time we get the money bucket filled, we're building a new (the old one was built in 1070) science hall."

That explains North Central's class schedule including "Understanding the Humors" and "The Preservation and Use of Leeches."

My understanding is that CardinalAlum was an alchemy major, and that kiko was on the intramural jousting team.

Correct.  But we lost some of our practice space because that was right around the time that Al Carius arrived and began turning around the cross country program.

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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35036 on: October 13, 2017, 06:21:19 pm »
Enjoy the Bell, we'll be taking it back in 2017 ;)

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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35037 on: October 13, 2017, 11:58:58 pm »
Accordingly, for a long time it was basically "the next time we get the money bucket filled, we're building a new (the old one was built in 1070) science hall."

That explains North Central's class schedule including "Understanding the Humors" and "The Preservation and Use of Leeches."

My understanding is that CardinalAlum was an alchemy major, and that kiko was on the intramural jousting team.

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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35038 on: October 14, 2017, 12:13:58 am »
Accordingly, for a long time it was basically "the next time we get the money bucket filled, we're building a new (the old one was built in 1070) science hall."

That explains North Central's class schedule including "Understanding the Humors" and "The Preservation and Use of Leeches."

I noticed the date also, but couldn't come up with as good a reply as you did.  +k

I doubt that "Humors" are ever coming back, but in fact leeches are returning!  For some types of surgery, medicine has not found any better way of avoiding clotting.

My best attempt at a reply was "WOW!  That's a couple of hundred years before the Cahokia Mounds!"  Just didn't seem to be a winner.

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Re: FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #35039 on: October 14, 2017, 09:33:15 am »
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