D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

Started by usee, October 20, 2010, 04:26:33 PM

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bleedpurple

Good points on the differential. Here is the Actual:


1. UWW (16)  400
2. Mount Union  382
3. North Central  361
4. Wesley   351
5. St. Thomas  334
6. UMHB   317
7. Delaware Valley 275
8. Hardin-Simmons 266
9. Ohio Northern  257
10. Linfield   250
11. Wartburg   237
12. Wittenberg  218
13. Trine   208
14. Thomas More  201
15. Bethel   179
16. Coe    166
17. Wheaton   150
18. Cal. Lutheran  117
19. Depauw   83
20. Pac. Lutheran 81
21. Central   66
22. Cortland State 59
23. Rowan    55
24. Montclair  46
25. Franklin   44

Dropped Out: #23 St. John Fisher, #24 Wabash

Also receiving votes: Hampden-Sydney (34), St. John Fisher (20), Willamette (19), Washington U (5), Salisbury(4),Wabash(4),Williams(4), Alfred (2), Illinois Wesleyan (2), Albion (1), Baldwin-Wallace (1), Muhlenberg (1)

sflzman

Well, I must be reading this completely differently cuz I have 5 teams in my poll, not on the overall top 25  ???
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bleedpurple

Quote from: bleedpurple on November 09, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
Good points on the differential. Here is the Actual:


1. UWW (16)  400
2. Mount Union  382
3. North Central  361
4. Wesley   351
5. St. Thomas  334
6. UMHB   317
7. Delaware Valley 275
8. Hardin-Simmons 266
9. Ohio Northern  257
10. Linfield   250
11. Wartburg   237
12. Wittenberg  218
13. Trine   208
14. Thomas More  201
15. Bethel   179
16. Coe    166
17. Wheaton   150
18. Cal. Lutheran  117
19. Depauw   83
20. Pac. Lutheran 81
21. Central   66
22. Cortland State 59
23. Rowan    55
24. Montclair  46
25. Franklin   44

Dropped Out: #23 St. John Fisher, #24 Wabash

Also receiving votes: Hampden-Sydney (34), St. John Fisher (20), Willamette (19), Washington U (5), Salisbury(4),Wabash(4),Williams(4), Alfred (2), Illinois Wesleyan (2), Albion (1), Baldwin-Wallace (1), Muhlenberg (1)


It's interesting to group the teams based on point differential.  It looks like #1 through 6 are pretty firmly entrenched  (barring a loss), there seems to be some tightening in the 7-10 spots,  11 and 12 look firm, 13 and 14 are competitive, Bethel, Coe Wheaton, and Cal Lutheran seem solid at 15,16, 17, and 18.  Depauw and Pacific Lutheran are neck and neck for 19 and 20.  #22 Cortland State is within range of 21 Central, but barely holding off #23 Rowan. #25 is within 2 of Montclair.  

In the "Also Receiving Votes" category, Willamette went from 8 votes two weeks ago, to 11 last week, to 19 this week.  The two teams ahead of them in the category have descended from Top 25 positions over the past two weeks  

02 Warhawk

Quote from: criswyly on November 09, 2010, 08:52:02 PM
Linfield belongs in the top five easily....all well informed d3 followers should know that.  But I guess they don't.

Not sure about easily...I ranked them 6th b/c I believe they are still a very strong team. But putting them easily in the top five is stretching it. they'll be leap frogging too many  good programs that have yet to lose a game.

bleedpurple

Quote from: criswyly on November 09, 2010, 08:52:02 PM
Linfield belongs in the top five easily....all well informed d3 followers should know that.  But I guess they don't.

I agree with you...in an undefeated season.  However, in my opinion, the D3 Top 25 Fan Poll has the top 6 teams right. I do not fill out a ballot, but I think the top 6 are very solid. Do I think Linfield could beat some of them, should they play in a playoff game? Yes.  But there are more to ranking teams than head to head prospects.  It's pretty hard to reach Top 5 status with a loss unless a team has a  dynasty-like resume'  (Mount Union).  Even the Purple Raiders may be sitting at 6 this year with a loss.  While Linfield has been a winning program for forever and a day, they have not been Top 5 dominant year in and year out to be placed there with a loss.  The Cats have lost 11 times in the last 4 plus seasons. 

Teamski

#200
Am I missing something?  North Central has the #25 SOS vs Wesley's #1, but is ahead of Wesley at #3.  I'm not being sour, but I'm curious to know.

-Ski
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02 Warhawk

#201
Quote from: Teamski on November 10, 2010, 01:34:03 PM
Am I missing something?  North Central has the #25 SOS vs Wesley's #1 and has yet to meet a ranked opponent, but is ahead of Wesley at #3.  I'm not being sour, but I'm curious to know.

-Ski

you mean besides Wheaton?

As a fan of UWW...there's two teams that really scare me this year. one (as always) is Mount Union, and the other is NCC. They always have a had a great offense...now this year they have a very good defense to bring to the party.

wally_wabash

After Wesley's 3-point win at home against Salisbury (who certainly isn't a bad team) on 10/30, I had decided that I would move NCC ahead of Wesley this week if NCC went on the road and handled Wheaton.  They did, and so I did.  I'm guessing that this line of logic wasn't unique to just me. 
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wesleydad

wally, if you are going to use that logic then make sure that the info is correct.  wesley defeated salisbury at salisbury.

wally_wabash

Quote from: wesleydad on November 10, 2010, 03:51:02 PM
wally, if you are going to use that logic then make sure that the info is correct.  wesley defeated salisbury at salisbury.

You are right and I knew that.  I'm an idiot.  The location of that Wes/Sal game really didn't matter and I'm not sure why I mentioned it.  The logic still holds though.
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criswyly

Just thought I'd stir it up......but not backing down on what I stated.
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BoBo

Quote from: criswyly on November 10, 2010, 07:32:47 PM
Just thought I'd stir it up......but not backing down on what I stated.

It would be unLinfield-like to do otherwise, right criswyly?  ;)
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WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

smedindy

This is what I had:

1. UW - Whitewater
2. Mt. Union
3. Wesley
4. North Central
5. St. Thomas
6. Mary Hardin - Baylor
7. Wartburg
8. Hardin - Simmons
9. Delaware Valley
10. Ohio Northern
11. Wittenberg
12. Linfield
13. Bethel
14. Thomas More
15. Wheaton (IL)
16. Coe
17. Montclair State
18. Trine
19. DePauw
20. Pacific Lutheran
21. Central (IA)
22. Hampden - Sydney
23. St. John Fisher
24. Willamette
25. Cal Lutheran

Linfield is a fine team, but everyone ahead of them I thought would beat them 6 times out of 10.

bleedpurple

Quote from: smedindy on November 10, 2010, 11:50:34 PM

Linfield is a fine team, but everyone ahead of them I thought would beat them 6 times out of 10.

Wow. Interesting perspective!  I think Mount and UW-W would beat them 6 out of 10 times.  I'm totally unsure if ANY of the others would.  But that's whats fun about discussing rankings.   ;)

sflzman

Quote from: smedindy on November 10, 2010, 11:50:34 PM
This is what I had:

1. UW - Whitewater
2. Mt. Union
3. Wesley
4. North Central
5. St. Thomas
6. Mary Hardin - Baylor
7. Wartburg
8. Hardin - Simmons
9. Delaware Valley
10. Ohio Northern
11. Wittenberg
12. Linfield
13. Bethel
14. Thomas More
15. Wheaton (IL)
16. Coe
17. Montclair State
18. Trine
19. DePauw
20. Pacific Lutheran
21. Central (IA)
22. Hampden - Sydney
23. St. John Fisher
24. Willamette
25. Cal Lutheran

Linfield is a fine team, but everyone ahead of them I thought would beat them 6 times out of 10.

I too, had Linfield at 12. I had Trine at 9 though...
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