Regional Rankings and SOS

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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Just an FYI - Feb. 10 is the first regional rankings.
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Bengalsrule

Quote from: dcahill44 on January 20, 2016, 11:09:14 AM
A couple weeks away from the Regional Rankings and its looking like one team in the E8 (fisher), Lancaster Bible (if they keep winning) SOS is bad though, NYU and rest will be all SUNYAC in some order. I think teams like Plattsburgh, Oneonta (who I personally think are the two best teams in the region) and depending on who keeps winning because nobody knows in the SUNYAC. Cortland, Geneseo, Buff State, and Oswego are all up for consideration. We will see how the next 2-3 weeks plays out but i think those 9 teams will all be up for consideration for 6 slots. If the SUNYAC keeps beating up on each other I think it will be a two bid league depending on who wins the conference tournament of course.

Would love to hear other people talk about the upcoming rankings even though we are a couple weeks or so away.

I doubt you will hear much conversation about regional rankings for a couple of weeks!  I've been wrong before though!

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

There simply isn't enough info to talk regional rankings... this is actually why the NCAA waits so late in the year before producing them (along with the former "once ranked, always ranked" having a major impact the more times there were rankings). I think having one more set of rankings would be good (Feb. 3), but this point in the year it is still tough to line teams up.
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dcahill44

#64
So for the rankings coming out tomorrow here is what I am thinking.

1. Plattsburgh
2. Rochester
3. Geneseo
4. St John Fisher
5. Oswego
6. Oneonta

Next 4 in no order Hartwick, Naz, Lancaster Bible, NYU and Brockport

Its hard to rank these teams but I think these are the six teams.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Eh... gut tells me you are either considering vRRO which won't be in place for the first week or you are ignoring some of the other criteria. That list doesn't look right to me. I am trying to go through it myself, but haven't had time with everything else. The two things I will agree on: Plattsburgh will be number one and Lancaster will be off - the last part causing a problem in the long run I feel.
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dcahill44

its a lot tougher than past years but I also like Brockport forgot about them. There SOS is good and they have some good wins
let me know who you think dave

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Huh - I thought I mentioned you forgot Brockport, but it isn't in my comments. Yeah. I think Brockport is on that list.
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dcahill44

It is baffling to me that a team in the East like Lancaster Bible doesn't get in over a team that has 6-7 losses. I mean if a team that is undefeated cant get into the rankings that tells me the NCAA has to go back to the drawing board and find different criteria. Another example Penn St Behrend a team who was 19-1 going into the rankings in the Great Lakes cant get into the top 9 in there region!! I just think its a bit ridiculous that NCAA is rewarding teams that have a bunch of losses over teams that win the games on there schedule.

I get the SOS factor but reward teams that win there games. Its not like these teams can just go join the NESCAC or UAA OR SUNYAC.

Lancaster and Behrend also ranked top 15 and top 25 in the D3hoops poll.

rant over.

would love to here what people think

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

I replied on the Pool C thread: http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4232.msg1729948#msg1729948

But I would point out that you didn't even have them on your mock rankings so I am surprised you are surprised.
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with age came?

dcahill44 you have my answer in the form of plus karma - now that I am a karma wielding poster!!  Undefeated is undefeated...enough said!!

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

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with age came?

Trying to "stir the pot" here a little.. but seems as the magicman suspects some stinky cheese over on the SUNYAC board with the NYU ranking too!!  I stick by my statement that undefeated is undefeated but there have been far worse "snubs" in history.. look up "Undefeated, Untied, Unscored upon and Uninvited" and you'll see what I mean!! ;D

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

I know that NYU was readjusted by the committee upward... unfortunately, their results against the UAA have HELPED them... not hurt them like usual.
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