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Title: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Bulldog16 on February 11, 2008, 09:04:38 PM
I heard that the list has been published but cannot find it on the web.  I know that last year the list was on the boards.  Anyone seen the list? Can you post it?
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: rjburke on February 12, 2008, 12:07:47 AM
From Baseball America (1/29/08, will hit news standsnext week, I think):
PLAYERS TO WATCH



ALL-AMERICA TEAM


C—Dale Curry, Sr., Alvernia, Pa. (.366-8-47). 1B—Drew Hedman, Jr., Pomona Pitzer (.389-14-56). 2B—Ricky Angel, Sr., Illinois Wesleyan (.452-10-54). 3B—Derek David, McMurray (.390-7-61, 24 2B). SS—Jonas Fester, Sr., Johns Hopkins (.405-5-51, 22 SB). OF—Hunter Owen, Jr., Millsaps (.404-11-70, 21 SB); Mark Blakely, Sr., Augustana, Ill. (.448-10-35, 20 SB); Bryan Burke, Sr., Kean, N.J. (.426-3-34, 27 SB at Frostburg State). DH—Kendall Fox, Texas-Tyler (.452-1-21, 11 SB). UT—Kurt Yacko, Jr., Chapman, Calif. (.389-6-46, 10 SB; 5-1, 1.74, 10 SV.

P—Matt Aronson, Jr., Illinois Wesleyan (8-0, 0.85); Shawn Gilblair, Jr., Eastern Connecticut State (.396-6-52; 11-2, 2.26); Adam Samson, Sr., Wooster, Ohio (11-0, 1.61, 76 SO/78 IP).

TOP PROSPECTS, 2008 DRAFT
1. Blake Booher, rhp, Texas-Tyler
2. Garrett Nix, rhp, Wisconsin-Stevens Point
3. Drew Mandelblatt, of, Pomona Pitzer (Calif.)


Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 12, 2008, 01:25:30 AM
Quote from: Bulldog16 on February 11, 2008, 09:04:38 PM
I heard that the list has been published but cannot find it on the web.  I know that last year the list was on the boards.  Anyone seen the list? Can you post it?

I posted it last year but it is a very long list.
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Spence on February 12, 2008, 03:08:07 AM
Quote from: rjburke on February 12, 2008, 12:07:47 AM
From Baseball America (1/29/08, will hit news standsnext week, I think):
PLAYERS TO WATCH



ALL-AMERICA TEAM


C—Dale Curry, Sr., Alvernia, Pa. (.366-8-47). 1B—Drew Hedman, Jr., Pomona Pitzer (.389-14-56). 2B—Ricky Angel, Sr., Illinois Wesleyan (.452-10-54). 3B—Derek David, McMurray (.390-7-61, 24 2B). SS—Jonas Fester, Sr., Johns Hopkins (.405-5-51, 22 SB). OF—Hunter Owen, Jr., Millsaps (.404-11-70, 21 SB); Mark Blakely, Sr., Augustana, Ill. (.448-10-35, 20 SB); Bryan Burke, Sr., Kean, N.J. (.426-3-34, 27 SB at Frostburg State). DH—Kendall Fox, Texas-Tyler (.452-1-21, 11 SB). UT—Kurt Yacko, Jr., Chapman, Calif. (.389-6-46, 10 SB; 5-1, 1.74, 10 SV.

P—Matt Aronson, Jr., Illinois Wesleyan (8-0, 0.85); Shawn Gilblair, Jr., Eastern Connecticut State (.396-6-52; 11-2, 2.26); Adam Samson, Sr., Wooster, Ohio (11-0, 1.61, 76 SO/78 IP).

TOP PROSPECTS, 2008 DRAFT
1. Blake Booher, rhp, Texas-Tyler
2. Garrett Nix, rhp, Wisconsin-Stevens Point
3. Drew Mandelblatt, of, Pomona Pitzer (Calif.)


How many of these players has anyone from Baseball America seen? In particular I'm wondering why none of the so-called top prospects are in the all-america team, and at least one isn't even his team's ace.
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on February 12, 2008, 07:32:24 AM
I've seen Hedman, David, Fox, Yacko, Booher, and Mandleblatt.

I'm nto sure if the Mandleblatt thing is a misprint or not because Pomona Pitzer has Zachary Mandleblatt that plays OF and pitches. He had a good year last year, but I wouldn't think he's projectable at the next level. Hedman can flat out swing the stick. I think he's a better hitter than Mooneyham that got drafted from Chapman a couple of years back.

As for Booher not being the number one, Campbell is just a lot more polished. To be completely honest, I don't recall that much about Booher. I thought he and Brett Holland were very similar pitchers. I think both throw harder than Campbell though.

I don't know. I know a good baseball player when I see one, but I won't pretend that I can necessarily predict projectability at the next level unless it's a given.

I don't think Fox or David would project at the next level - and Yacko reminds me of Tyler's Nate Jennings last year, but with less velocity. He's such a max effort guy I don't know how his frame holds up at the next level, particularly after Chapman uses him in every game this year... lol

JSG
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: rjburke on February 12, 2008, 11:53:55 AM
The Collegiate Baseball Newspaper list is huge and came out in January. This list was mentioned on another thread earlier this year.

My guess is Baseball America's people haven't seen as many games as the guys on d3baseball have. But that's why this site is here and valuable. Still, there is a high correlation between their team and d3baseball's.

My son says I should make it crystal clear that my postings are not from him. While I thought I had said so earlier, my son played for Frostburgh last year and plays for Kean this year. I am obviously very proud of him, his ability, and accomplishments. Ralph previously defined success as a parent as how quickly and effectively we embarass our kids. I guess I am, right now, a very successful parent!





Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 12, 2008, 12:50:21 PM
Quote from: rjburke on February 12, 2008, 11:53:55 AM
The Collegiate Baseball Newspaper list is huge and came out in January. This list was mentioned on another thread earlier this year.

My guess is Baseball America's people haven't seen as many games as the guys on d3baseball have. But that's why this site is here and valuable. Still, there is a high correlation between their team and d3baseball's.

It is my understanding that the CB players to watch list are players that coaches forward and everyone gets printed. 

The D3baseball.com All-American list selection process starts with folks who had earned a regional All-American spot in a previous year.  This means a freshman getting on the preseason team is unlikely.

I am not sure how BA makes their selections.

Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: NCWC on February 12, 2008, 04:50:50 PM
Jim, how many d3 juniors were drafted last year?
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 12, 2008, 05:32:55 PM
Quote from: NCWC on February 12, 2008, 04:50:50 PM
Jim, how many d3 juniors were drafted last year?

Four (I think): Zimmerman, Lutz, Pecora, and Gomez.  Caveat:  I am going by memory.

players drafted: http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2007/06/08/D-III%27s+final+tally+hits+19+draftees
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: dgilblair on February 12, 2008, 08:53:27 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on February 12, 2008, 05:32:55 PM
Quote from: NCWC on February 12, 2008, 04:50:50 PM
Jim, how many d3 juniors were drafted last year?

Four (I think): Zimmerman, Lutz, Pecora, and Gomez.  Caveat:  I am going by memory.

players drafted: http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2007/06/08/D-III%27s+final+tally+hits+19+draftees

One more.  Lavorgna, by the Mets
http://www.ecsu.ctstateu.edu/depts/athletics/spring_season/bb-6-11-07.htm
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 12, 2008, 11:49:52 PM
Apparently not a good memory at that.

okay 5 out of 19 drafted were Juniors. 

I see to think there was an underclass man drafted a few years ago from one of the SCIAC schools
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on February 13, 2008, 12:56:37 AM
Add Jacob Kaase SS from TLU to that list. He was a junior last year.

A junior with three ASC conference championship rings.

JSG
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: NCWC on February 13, 2008, 02:11:36 AM
Now another tough one, who didnt sign?  Should they be on a watch list?
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 13, 2008, 12:39:37 PM
Quote from: NCWC on February 13, 2008, 02:11:36 AM
Now another tough one, who didnt sign?  Should they be on a watch list?

Jacob Kaase signed with the rangers - http://www.tlu.edu/news?newsid=1113
Title: ABCA Preseason Watch list?
Post by: A.G. on January 14, 2009, 08:22:17 PM
I've seen some random releases about players being named to a "D3 Preseason Watch List" by the ABCA?  Where is this list, as I would be interested to see what players we follow are on the list?  If someone has access and can post it, that would be great.
Title: ABCA Preseason Watch list?
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 14, 2009, 09:22:15 PM
AG, that list was released by Baseball America on Jan 29th, 2008.

We are probably two weeks away from the release for 2009.

Thanks for bringing it up!
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: A.G. on January 15, 2009, 12:59:44 PM
Someone moved my original post.  THE ABCA (not affiliated with BBA) posts a WATCH LIST TOO.  I have seen a couple of releases on the D3 players but am looking for an ACTUAL LIST.
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Hammer Ball on January 15, 2009, 01:06:55 PM
Are you referring to the list in the Jan 2 2009 issue of Collegiate Baseball?
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 15, 2009, 02:02:39 PM
Quote from: A.G. on January 15, 2009, 12:59:44 PM
Someone moved my original post.  THE ABCA (not affiliated with BBA) posts a WATCH LIST TOO.  I have seen a couple of releases on the D3 players but am looking for an ACTUAL LIST.
As moderator, I moved the post onto this board which already had activity on it.  ;)

If anyone sees the ABCA list, then post the link! 
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: A.G. on January 17, 2009, 04:15:36 PM
Quote from: Hammer Ball on January 15, 2009, 01:06:55 PM
Are you referring to the list in the Jan 2 2009 issue of Collegiate Baseball?

Heck...I would love to get my hands/keyboard on any of the lists of "Players to Watch" as I enjoy checking stats all through the season.
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: LightsOutLidge on January 17, 2009, 05:12:52 PM
Is this watch list determined mostly by scouts? coaches? what?
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: StarvinMarvin on January 17, 2009, 07:03:41 PM
Collegiate baseball sends out paperwork for the DIII coaches to fill out and they submit the players from their team who are "players to watch" in their opinion.  Some coaches don't even bother sending their list in which is why you might wonder why some players make it who may not be deserving and some don't make who are deserving.  It's a very informal list and in my opinion has very little relevance. 
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: theoneandonly on January 22, 2009, 01:32:10 PM
this list isint always the most acurate because coaches can send in suggestions. This list is quite often messed up too, last year players to watch, blackburn college had two or three. ONE. the first basemen Josh Holman, he ended up batting .218 and their right handed side arm pitcher scott ward. who is a started, he was named a player to watch on the left handed relife pitchers.
Title: Re: ABCA Preseason Watch list?
Post by: bbnag101 on January 27, 2009, 11:19:34 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 14, 2009, 09:22:15 PM
AG, that list was released by Baseball America on Jan 29th, 2008.

We are probably two weeks away from the release for 2009.

Thanks for bringing it up!

Does anyone who if the 2009 list has come out yet or should we look for it this weekend?? 
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: A.G. on January 29, 2009, 01:02:39 PM
Here is the D3 preview from BBA:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/season-preview/2009/267505.html

Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: OshDude on January 29, 2009, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: A.G. on January 29, 2009, 01:02:39 PM
Here is the D3 preview from BBA:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/season-preview/2009/267505.html
"Kevin Walnis"? LOL. And pretty convenient that they slot Dan Kaczrowski at 2B. If he's their national POY, you'd think he would be at SS, his position for more than 30 games last season.
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: BigPoppa on January 29, 2009, 04:13:33 PM
Another player to watch is Carthage 1B John Lequia who is a Division I transfer from Bradley. If things pan out like they did last year for a Bradely 1B transferring to Carthage, we could be looking at an all-American season. (1B Jason Acevado landed at Carthage from Bradley last year). Don't know much about him yet, but past history seems to bode well in this case.
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: bbnag101 on January 29, 2009, 04:34:55 PM
A.G. - thanks for the link and info. 

They sure don't give much love to D3.  They could have said a little more. But I guess some love is better than no love :)
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: BigPoppa on January 29, 2009, 04:36:01 PM
Quote from: bbnag101 on January 29, 2009, 04:34:55 PM
A.G. - thanks for the link and info. 

They sure don't give much love to D3.  They could have said a little more. But I guess some love is better than no love :)

That's exactly what my wife tells me.
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Jim Dixon on January 29, 2009, 06:33:44 PM
Quote from: bbnag101 on January 29, 2009, 04:34:55 PM
A.G. - thanks for the link and info. 

They sure don't give much love to D3.  They could have said a little more. But I guess some love is better than no love :)

The snippet for D-III baseball is probably on par with the coverage of college baseball overall.  The comparison is to see how much they write on NAiA and D-III baseball.
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: miacbaseballfan on January 29, 2009, 11:21:05 PM
Oshdude,

I think it's pretty clear that Kaczrowski belongs at 2B, considering he started there every game but one for the Danville Dans of the CICL last summer. Obviously his selection as POY is a nod to his summer performance. Although his numbers for the college season were outstanding, there are definitely a few other Division III guys who threw up stats that are arguably as good. For publications like Baseball America, performance in top summer wood bat leagues factors into pre-season honors heavily, and no Division III player even came close to putting up the numbers Kaczrowski did last summer.
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: OshDude on January 30, 2009, 05:06:32 AM
Quote from: miacbaseballfan on January 29, 2009, 11:21:05 PM
Oshdude,

I think it's pretty clear that Kaczrowski belongs at 2B, considering he started there every game but one for the Danville Dans of the CICL last summer. Obviously his selection as POY is a nod to his summer performance. Although his numbers for the college season were outstanding, there are definitely a few other Division III guys who threw up stats that are arguably as good. For publications like Baseball America, performance in top summer wood bat leagues factors into pre-season honors heavily, and no Division III player even came close to putting up the numbers Kaczrowski did last summer.
Fair enough. If you're projecting his pro position, 2B would make sense. But for me, if he's going to be on a D3 All-America team, I'd rather see him at his D3 position. I just thought it a bit convenient to place him as the best 2B when he played seven games at 2B last year. No big deal.
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: miacbaseballfan on January 30, 2009, 09:48:13 AM
You make an interesting point. The decision would have been much easier had Kolb not hit .527 with an OPS of 1.367 and 25/25 bags with only 2 errors.
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on February 13, 2009, 04:48:33 PM
John Semel Chapman University 2009
GAMES 8
AVG. .543
RUNS  12
HITS 19
2B    4
HR    5
RBI  13
SLG% 1.086
OB%   .571
SB    5
Title: Re: Division III Players to Watch list?
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 13, 2009, 06:07:56 PM
Quote from: DIIIBASEBALLFAN on February 13, 2009, 04:48:33 PM
John Semel Chapman University 2009
GAMES 8
AVG. .543
RUNS  12
HITS 19
2B    4
HR    5
RBI  13
SLG% 1.086
OB%   .571
SB    5


Good numbers against good competition.  Not to take anything away from Whittier but Semel has kept up his production with teams that are thought to factor in the playoff picture.

We will see where Chapman ends up on the 24th when the first regular season poll is released.