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Title: BB: Regional (Mid-East) Terre Haute '08, Adrian '09, Marietta '10, '11
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2008, 11:50:34 PM
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Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 12, 2008, 08:33:31 AM
6-team regional and I can't believe they shipped Ohio Wesleyan to New York....and that both Rose-Hulman and Adrian received at large bids.  I may be a little biased, but I think both Otterbein and Marietta would beat both of those teams pretty handidly.

1. Heidelberg (37-8)
2. Wooster (34-9)
3. Calvin (32-8)
4. Rose-Hulman (31-13)
5. Adrian (30-10)
6. Transylvania (31-12)


my early pick is with Heidelberg. 
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 12, 2008, 09:10:09 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 12, 2008, 08:33:31 AM
6-team regional and I can't believe they shipped Ohio Wesleyan to New York....and that both Rose-Hulman and Adrian received at large bids.  I may be a little biased, but I think both Otterbein and Marietta would beat both of those teams pretty handidly.

my early pick is with Heidelberg. 
I am pretty confused by OWU being shipped to NY as well.  All the Bishops did was beat the top 2 seeds on their way to winning the NCAC tournament.  Furthermore, the NCAC is a tougher conference than the MIAA. 

Basically, it comes down to money.  It's cheaper to bus OWU out to NY than to send either Adrian or Calvin.  The part that confuses me is why Wooster wasn't the ones sent packing.  Although, looking at in on Yahoo Maps, Wooster to Auburn is only about half an hour further than Wooster to Terre Haute.  OWU is adding over 2 hours to their trip as they were 4 1/2 hours from Terre Haute and they are over 7 hours from Auburn.  One team that I doubt was too happy about seeing who got shipped in was Cortland State.  Had OWU not landed in that regional, it looked like Cortland could have had a pretty easy road to Grand Chute.

Oh well.  This way, now the NCAC can have 2 representatives qualify for the CWS!  ;D  ;)

Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 12, 2008, 09:27:56 AM
First of all, here is the link to the midease regional:

Rose-Hulman Regional (http://www.rose-hulman.edu/sports/baseball/08regional/)

old scot,

I took a quote from your post from yesterday regarding Wooster in the tournament and moved it over here.  I thought this would be the more relavent place for discussion now.

Quote from: old scot on May 11, 2008, 12:45:37 PM

If Woo does get a reprieve on the season, I would like to see them "play to win". In otherwords, play loose and aggressive.


I totally agree with this assessment.  The Scots have truly gotten a gift with their at large bid, IMHO.  Now, lets see what they can do with this gift.  Wooster even managed to get the #2 seed FWIW.  The Scots will be proving their worth against Adrian in their tournament opener on Wednesday.  I really think it is imperative for the Scots to get off to a solid start.  That includes cutting down on the errors and walks that were so costly in the NCAC tournament.  If Wooster can gain a little MO, maybe, just maybe, that might carry over in giving this team some much needed  confidence to carry them through the tournament.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: KYGrizzly on May 12, 2008, 10:02:16 AM
It's nice to see two HCAC teams get in the regional, but i am having trouble figuring out how Rose-Hulman got  the #4 seed.

In the final mideast regional rankings Adrain was ranked ahead of Rose and then gets a higher seed.

Rose loses two out of three to Transy the last week of conference play and then finishes second in the conference tournament behind Transy and is still seeded higher.

Should be a good tournament, Good Luck to all teams playing.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 12, 2008, 12:20:24 PM
The NCAA in general doesn't seem to like to move out higher seeds.

Grizzly: Seeds are based on all 40 games (or all XX in-region games), not a couple of head-to-head games. If the majority of the season means RHIT should be seeded higher, they will be, even if they don't win the conference title.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: KYGrizzly on May 12, 2008, 12:52:00 PM
Thanks Pat. I was just trying to see the reasoning of the seeding. There is not much difference between Rose and Transy. I believe Rose has the overall better pitching staff and Transy has the better offensive players. Just my opinion.

Just one more question then.

How would they jump over Adrian who was ranked higher in the last Mideast rankings?
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 12, 2008, 01:27:46 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 12, 2008, 12:20:24 PM
Grizzly: Seeds are based on all 40 games (or all XX in-region games), not a couple of head-to-head games. If the majority of the season means RHIT should be seeded higher, they will be, even if they don't win the conference title.
Yeah.  Just look at Wooster and OWU.  Wooster was knocked out by OWU in the NCAC semis.  OWU goes on to beat the NCAC West champs Denison in the finals.  Yet, Wooster is the 2 seed in the Mideast Regional and OWU only manages a 7 seed in the NY Regional.  I still think OWU deserved better than a 7 seed in that regional...

On a sidenote:  Isn't it strange to not be seeing Marietta and/or Manchester in the Mideast regional?  Maybe Wooster should take advantage of this since both teams have traditionally been quite the thorn in the side of the Scots when it comes to tournament time.   Although, Heide appears ready to stake a claim to that this year.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 12, 2008, 01:36:19 PM
Quote from: KYGrizzly on May 12, 2008, 12:52:00 PM
Thanks Pat. I was just trying to see the reasoning of the seeding. There is not much difference between Rose and Transy. I believe Rose has the overall better pitching staff and Transy has the better offensive players. Just my opinion.

Just one more question then.

How would they jump over Adrian who was ranked higher in the last Mideast rankings?

Another good question -- one thing that always can happen at the end, since we don't see the final regional rankings, is that the rankings can change, affecting a team's record against regionally ranked opponents. Also, it could be that the numbers were so close this week that the 2-0 head to head for RHIT over Adrian required the change.

If teams are relatively far apart (last week they were No. 3 and No. 7 in the region) two games isn't likely to make the difference. But Thomas More and MSJ potentially falling below RHIT in the rankings brings those teams closer together.

Again, though, without the regional rankings it's really just a whole bunch of speculation.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: KYGrizzly on May 12, 2008, 03:39:35 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 12, 2008, 01:36:19 PM

Another good question -- one thing that always can happen at the end, since we don't see the final regional rankings, is that the rankings can change, affecting a team's record against regionally ranked opponents. Also, it could be that the numbers were so close this week that the 2-0 head to head for RHIT over Adrian required the change.

If teams are relatively far apart (last week they were No. 3 and No. 7 in the region) two games isn't likely to make the difference. But Thomas More and MSJ potentially falling below RHIT in the rankings brings those teams closer together.

Again, though, without the regional rankings it's really just a whole bunch of speculation.
I guess that is where it got confusing. I knew RHIT beat Adrian 2 games early in the season but was still behind them in the latest rankings. Then this past week Adrian went 3-1 and RHIT went 3-2 in region games.

Is it safe to speculate that Thomas More was he last team out of the Mid East Region. Just wandering if Franklin would have beat RHIt if Thomas More would have made it in.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: transydad on May 13, 2008, 06:23:54 PM

  I have questions why is RHIT seeded higher than Transy based on these stats. Both teams played same conference schedule and Transy had a better winning percentage but not by much. Transy was tourny champs and beat RHIT. Transy was 2-1 against MSJ and 3-2 against RHIT both who were ranked in region   6th and 7th repectively. They also beat Penn State Behrend 2-0. So for these ranked teams they were 7-3. Also why do they get to play at home are they the North Carolina of baseball.  Second Question is there a schedule for rain outs. The weather does't look good at RHIT.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 13, 2008, 06:51:12 PM
Quote from: transydad on May 13, 2008, 06:23:54 PM

  I have questions why is RHIT seeded higher than Transy based on these stats. Both teams played same conference schedule and Transy had a better winning percentage but not by much. Transy was tourny champs and beat RHIT. Transy was 2-1 against MSJ and 3-2 against RHIT both who were ranked in region   6th and 7th repectively. They also beat Penn State Behrend 2-0. So for these ranked teams they were 7-3. Also why do they get to play at home are they the North Carolina of baseball.  Second Question is there a schedule for rain outs. The weather does't look good at RHIT.
Read Pat Coleman's responses above regarding why RHIT is seeded higher than Transy.  Just insert Transy in place of Adrian. 

As for your 2nd question, this is now the 3rd time in the last 4 years that RHIT has hosted the Mideast Regional.  Last year Wooster was awarded hosting priviledges at a neutral facility in Strongsville, OH.  This is actually the 1st time that RHIT will be playing as well as hosting.  I guess the NCAA just likes the job they do at RHIT as Regional host and they also must like the proximity of Terre Haute.  It has nothing to do with RHIT earning the right to host.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 14, 2008, 02:22:12 PM
Heide rolls in game 1 of the Mideast Regional over Transy to the tune of 10-3.

The Pios got off to a fast start taking a 2-0 lead after the 1st inning.  But the Student Princes erupted to score 7 in the bottom of the 3rd.  Transy got one back in the 7th, but Heide put the game to rest with 3 more in the 8th to preserve their win.

Wooster and Adrian look to get started in just over an hour.  The weather looks like it shouldn't be a factor.  At least today... (knocking on wood  8))
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 14, 2008, 04:16:09 PM
Whoever is working with Ken Nemeth as his partner doing the Wooster-Adrian game is the absolute worst announcer I have ever heard.  Pitiful, undecipherable descriptions of the action.  I've never heard him before, they must have just hired him or something.  Please, fire him immediately and get somebody in there that knows baseball and can simply describe the type of hit, WHO IT WENT TO, and what happened.  It's really not that hard if you have half a brain.

---

Sad when a Wooster fan has to switch to the opposing team's webcast.  The Adrian announcer is excellent, doing a nice unbiased broadcast.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: countyroad on May 14, 2008, 05:45:15 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 14, 2008, 04:16:09 PM
Whoever is working with Ken Nemeth as his partner doing the Wooster-Adrian game is the absolute worst announcer I have ever heard.  Pitiful, undecipherable descriptions of the action. 

You're not kidding!!  I was just telling that to someone.  His name is Dave Dial.  The funny thing is that Ken keeps criticizing him.  Great comments.

They guy didn't know who was batting, he was wrong on balls/strikes upteen times, he didn't know the score.....
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: OC_SID on May 14, 2008, 06:01:05 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 14, 2008, 04:16:09 PM

The Adrian announcer is excellent, doing a nice unbiased broadcast.

Adrian announcer is Aaron Coyle, who normally does broadcasts for Tri-State. He does an excellent job at calling the games as well as his research on the student-athletes is incredible ... When I listen to the archives of our games, I learn things about our players that I never knew.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 14, 2008, 06:11:29 PM
I really enjoyed listening to Coyle.  At one point, I think it was in the seventh or eighth inning, I was only half-listening to the game, trying to work at the same time.  Suddenly, Coyle got excited as there was a deep drive to right field.  It went out for a home run, and from his call and enthusiasm I figured it was an Adrian player that had hit it.  I was wrong, it was a Wooster guy that had just homered to tie the game at three, but Coyle's account of the play was so unbiased I couldn't tell until I paid attention to the names.

Wooster went on to lose, 4-3, giving up a run in the top of the ninth.  Argh.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 14, 2008, 06:20:52 PM
I'll be completely honest, I was hoping Wooster would play well and contend with Heidelberg for this regional title....still could happen I guess.

I'll also be honest when I say that Marietta or Otterbein would have both done very well in this regional as at-large teams, I just wish they had the shot. 

Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: sac on May 14, 2008, 06:45:51 PM
Adrian's win this afternoon was the MIAA's 10th all-time NCAA Tournament win versus 28 losses.  First MIAA team to make the winners bracket since 2001, and only the 4th overall.

The MIAA has never had 2 teams in the same NCAA tournament field.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: old scot on May 14, 2008, 06:46:10 PM
Wooster loses 4-3 to Adrian.

After reviewing the play by play, I want to know what Coach P was thinking in the 9th inning. Your down by a run, lead off hitter gets on. SAC bunt, a no brain-er? No, coach tries a steal, thrown out at second. Next batter makes an out, next batter gets a hit.
I hate to say it but, coaching cost the Scots a chance at tying the game. I guess Pettorini doesn't believe in playing ABC baseball. The Scots not only have to overcome themselves but, also the coaching decisions. I guess that's why they haven't won the big one.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 14, 2008, 07:02:38 PM
It wasn't a straight steal, it was a failed hit-and-run.  If I remember the webcast call, the pitch was high and away and O'Donnell swung but couldn't make contact.  The runner was then thrown out at second.  I don't know what the count was, and that's all-important in determining if the tactic was a good one or not.  You put the hit-and-run on when the count is in the hitter's favor, so the pitcher cannot waste a pitch.  2-1 is ok, 2-0 is better, 3-1 is best because then your hitter can take if the pitch isn't a strike and you get the walk.

Still, I agree, they should have bunted.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: old scot on May 14, 2008, 07:25:57 PM
WB,
   I hear you. You have to tie the game before you can win it. I think the hit & run is appropriate in earlier  innings but, not the ninth, when you are trying to even the score.

Hopefully, the Scots can bounce back and compete for the regional bid. They have a long road ahead.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 14, 2008, 07:29:44 PM
First of all, I echo the sentiments of having to endure that broadcast with Dave Dial.  I think Ken Nemeth was echoing those sentiments as well...  Dial is usually a DJ for either QKT or KVX.  I'm not sure which one or maybe it's both.  But I will suggest that he stick with his day job and forget about a career in sports broadcasting.

Dial did the play-by-play (well he attempted to do it anyways  ::) ) in the 3rd inning.  It was all I could do to keep listening.  And then he started to continue in the 4th when he asked Nemeth to put him out of his misery.  So, I think he realized that he pretty much sucked.  So, I guess I'll cut him some slack since he at least acknowledged he didn't know what he was doing. 

As for the game, what more is there to say???  This team has been in a funk for over a month now.  After starting the season jumping out to a 17-1 start, they have really sputtered down the stretch including finishing just 10-8 over the last month of the season including today's loss.  And with today's loss, the Scots have now lost 3 in a row for the 2nd time this season and both 3 game skids have occurred in the last month as well. 

One question about today's game.  I missed the top of the 9th.  Who took the loss?  Samson had been cruising.  Did Pettorini stick with him and try to stretch out another inning out of him?

Now it's up to Trap to come out tomorrow and shut down Transy or it will be another short-lived trip to Terre Haute for Wooster.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 14, 2008, 07:38:55 PM
Adrian 9th - A. Anderson grounded out to 2b. Todd Meyers grounded out to
ss. Sarkissian singled down the rf line. Alex Cowart singled through the left
side; Sarkissian advanced to second. Miller to p for A. Samson. B. Rickstad
singled through the right side, RBI; Alex Cowart advanced to third; Sarkissian
scored. Vanderheyden flied out to lf. 1 run, 3 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB.

Samson took the loss.  In listening to the game, it sounded like the first hit was a looper down the right-field line that Christianson couldn't quite reach.  It didn't sound like either of the following ground balls were hit that hard, they just found holes.  That happens.

I'm wondering why Swearingen didn't catch; manager's choice or was he hurt?
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: old scot on May 14, 2008, 07:57:48 PM
Sampson's line. 8 &2/3rds, 12 hits, 2 K's, 1 BB. That doesn't sound like cruising to me. It seems like he was battling every inning.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 14, 2008, 09:23:27 PM
Rose Hulman upsets Calvin 4-0.......Tomorrow's schedule:

Thursday, May 15

Game 4 - Transylvania (0-1) vs. Wooster (0-1), Noon
Game 5 - Heidelberg (1-0) vs. Calvin (0-1), 3:30 p.m.
Game 6 - Adrian (1-0) vs. Rose Hulman (1-0), 7 p.m.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: countyroad on May 14, 2008, 10:42:39 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 14, 2008, 07:57:48 PM
Sampson's line. 8 &2/3rds, 12 hits, 2 K's, 1 BB. That doesn't sound like cruising to me. It seems like he was battling every inning.

From listening to the game I gathered that Adrian had a number of infield hits.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 15, 2008, 09:09:14 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 14, 2008, 07:57:48 PM
Sampson's line. 8 &2/3rds, 12 hits, 2 K's, 1 BB. That doesn't sound like cruising to me. It seems like he was battling every inning.
countryroad was correct.  A number of those hits never made it out of the infield.  Adrian had 2 hits in the 2nd inning.  Both were infield hits.  Adrian had 3 hits in the 3rd inning.  Two were infield hits.  The fourth inning is where Samson seemed to be hit the hardest giving up 3 straight hits to start the inning and facing runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs and a run already home.  He then forced two consecutive short fly outs and a groundout to end the threat.  And after that inning, he did seem to cruise until the 9th.  He only allowed a single in the 6th and a single in the 8th and had retired the 1st two batters in the 9th before losing it.

Adrian sure hurt Wooster with the 2 out thunder.  In the Adrian 3rd, with 2 outs, Samson appeared to get out of the inning but Bubba O'Donnell committed the only error of the game.  Two infield hits later and two unearned runs later, the game is tied when it should have remained a 2-0 ballgame...  ::)  And in the 9th, the three consecutive hits that produced the winning run all came after there were 2 outs...  ::)

The weather forecast for today isn't looking so good in Terre Haute.  They're calling for a steady rain starting around the time of the 1st pitch for the noon game and not letting up until late tonight.  :(  And there's a lot of green on the radar making it's way into Illinois toward Indiana as we speak.  Could be an interesting and long day of trying to get games in.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 15, 2008, 12:44:57 PM
After two at Terre Haute, according to WQKT's Dave Dial: The score is tied two to two.......for each team.

Shane Swearingen, Wooster's season-long starting catcher, is once again not in the lineup.  No mention why.  Possibly injured, of course, but the Scots also have somewhat of a history of players missing the post-season for disciplinary or academic reasons (Adam Arkin, Mike Barone, and others).  I hope that's not the case.

Dial mentioned this, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt.  He said that should there be problems with the weather (very possible) and it becomes necessary to play games on Sunday, Calvin, should they still be alive, would not play, which would throw a monkey wrench into the draw.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 15, 2008, 01:22:28 PM
Did they finally put Dial out of his misery?  I didn't start listening in on the broadcast until the 5th and all I've heard is Nemeth.

Wooster scored one in the 5th and tacked on 2 more in the 6th and now lead 5-2!  :)
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 15, 2008, 01:43:02 PM
Diial did either the third or the fourth, and now he's doing the seventh.  Nemeth is keeping him on a much tighter leash today, giving him less air-time and correcting any major mistakes.  Still, he's way out of his element, whatever that might be.  Did he have a short stint as an Indians' announcer a few years back?
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: KYGrizzly on May 15, 2008, 01:46:17 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 15, 2008, 12:44:57 PM
Shane Swearingen, Wooster's season-long starting catcher, is once again not in the lineup.  No mention why.  Possibly injured, of course, but the Scots also have somewhat of a history of players missing the post-season for disciplinary or academic reasons (Adam Arkin, Mike Barone, and others).  I hope that's not the case.

Looks like he is still on the team as he just went in to catch.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 15, 2008, 02:45:37 PM
Wooster stays alive by the final score of 5-3! 

Wooster now plays tomorrow at 3:30.  I wasn't fully paying attention, but Nemeth mentioned something about if Calvin wins today over Heide, the Scots only game would be at 3:30 tomorrow.  If Heide won, the Scots would have to play 2 tomorrow if they were to win the 3:30 game.  So, GO CALVIN!!!   ;D   Of course, if it starts to rain and push back the remainder of today's games, that would be a break for the Scots.  And seeing as how mother nature screwed them a couple of years ago, this would be a nice return favor.  :)   Still no word on who will be starting for the Scots tomorrow.  Matt Barnes has been the Scots 3rd starter, but he was summoned in relief of Trap today for 3 innings of work.

Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 15, 2008, 01:43:02 PM
Did he have a short stint as an Indians' announcer a few years back?
Is this a serious question?  I sure don't remember that.  I remember wondering how Matt Underwood ever got the gig.  Now I wonder how he got the STO gig?!   ???

Quote from: KYGrizzly on May 15, 2008, 01:46:17 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 15, 2008, 12:44:57 PM
Shane Swearingen, Wooster's season-long starting catcher, is once again not in the lineup.  No mention why.  Possibly injured, of course, but the Scots also have somewhat of a history of players missing the post-season for disciplinary or academic reasons (Adam Arkin, Mike Barone, and others).  I hope that's not the case.

Looks like he is still on the team as he just went in to catch.

Yes, Swearingen was brought in to catch the 9th inning.  Nemeth was quetioning why he hadn't been starting either game so far as he didn't know anything either.  My guess would be that he was sitting out for disciplinary reasons.  If he was hurt, would it really make much sense to bring him on to catch the 9th inning?  Seems like if he's not 100%, that could be a serious liability.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: medicine man on May 15, 2008, 05:25:21 PM
Swearingen is on the bench NOT for disciplinary reasons NOR for academic reasons, only for "Coach P reasons" unknown to anyone but Coach P.

Believe me - it is not for either of the two above reaons, I am positive. I DO know this.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 15, 2008, 05:49:35 PM
Medicine Man -

I believe you.  In that case, I just don't understand why the starting catcher would suddenly be relegated to the bench.  It just seems The Scots try to out-think themselves when the post-season arrives.

With Barnes coming in to relieve today and the distinct possibility of playing two games tomorrow (HC now leads by a score of 4-1 going to the bottom of the ninth), I'm wondering what Wooster has in mind for tomorrow.  Are they thinking of giving the ball to Mark Miller in one of the games?  Not a bad idea, except I wish they had tried it once or twice during the season just to test the water.  Ample opportunity was there during one of the league series.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: transydad on May 15, 2008, 10:27:12 PM

  Congratulations Wooster and Heidelberg on your wins against Transy. We left our bats in KY hopefully we will learn from this and put them on the bus next year the good Lord willing. We might of had a chance against Wooster we could of got some 2 out hits. You are not going to win many games when your two through six hitters go 0-13.  Transy team batting average was about .329 but thats why you play the games. Good luck and we hope to see you all next year but it's our turn to win.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2008, 11:08:17 PM
Adrian wins over Rose Hulman.

Friday's Game:

Heidelberg (2-0) vs Adrian (2-0)
Wooster (1-1) vs Rose Hulman (1-1)


Not really sure what to think about this regional, except that Heidelberg has had a pretty easy road so far. 
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2008, 08:51:38 AM
Well, Wooster's really got their backs up agaisnt it now.  In order to get out of this regional they will have to win 4 games in 2 days?!  ::)

Anyone have any guesses as to whom will be toting the rubber today for the Scots?  My guesses woud be Mark Miller and/or John Warren for the 3:30 game.  Should the Scots win, I wonder if Barnes would be availiable for the nightcap.  He threw 41 pitches yesterday in his 3 innings of relief, so I would think he should be able to give Wooster a couple more innings at least.

If Wooster gets through today's gauntlet, will their 2 best have enough in the tank to get through Saturday?  Samson threw 122 pitches and Trap needed 100 just to get through 6 innings yesterday. 

I think the bottom line is that Wooster is going to need a lot of help from some unexpected sources.  They're going to need some guys to step it up and dig deep.  And, the bats are going to need to step it up as well.  Yesterday vs. Transy was a nice start.  As transydad touched on the lack of 2 out hitting for the Pios, Wooster seemed to deliver some big hits with 2 outs.  If the Scots' bats can't take some of the pressure of the pitching staff, I don't see them making it past today...
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 16, 2008, 11:01:54 AM
Matt DeGrand has got to get one of the starts today.  Probably the first game, and if Wooster can win that one without needing Miller, maybe he goes in the second game.  Obviously a very tough situation, but today is doable; there are still three other capable and unused pitchers in Warren (better than his stats indicate), McDowell (pitched better lately), and Fugate (limited but good outings).

Tomorrow would definitely be even tougher. :)   
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on May 16, 2008, 02:17:49 PM
Adrian moving to tomorrow at 3-0 after beating Heidleberg 4-1, needing to only win 1 of 2 to advance to the WS - althouhg I'm sure they won't be looking at it that way.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2008, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2008, 11:08:17 PM
Not really sure what to think about this regional, except that Heidelberg has had a pretty easy road so far. 
Heide's easy road just hit a speed bump.  Adrian continues to be the surprise team of the regional.  They should be set to have their #1 back on the mound to face whomever makes it out of the loser's bracket.

That was quite an impressive outing by Adam Domschott for Adrian.  Heidelberg's offense is not the easiest to shut down and he held them to just 3 hits and one run coming off a solo hr.

You have to be real impressed with Adrian's starting pitching thus far.  In their first game vs. Wooster, Alex Webster really showed some composure to come back and really shut down the Scot bats after a shaky 1st inning.  And then, yesterday, Rickstad was shaky allowing all 3 RHIT runs in the 1st two innings and then he proceeded to throw up 0's the rest of the game.  And now Domschott goes out and shuts down the #1 seed. 

One thing's for sure.  No one can say that Adrian's road in the regional has been easy thus far as they've now defeated the top 2 seeds in the regional.  Can their improbable run continue?  They're definately in the driver's seat.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: countyroad on May 16, 2008, 05:45:46 PM
Dave dial is killing me on the air.  I tried RHIT's announcer but I couln't get it to work.

My favorite:

    Dave:  "That has to be like ball 7 he's thrown him."
    Ken:  "No it's not, they intentionally walked the last batter who's on first, we    now have a new hitter."

    Ken:  "By the way it's Mark Miller"
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 16, 2008, 06:12:55 PM
I completely gave up on the Wooster broadcast.  WQKT should be totally embarrassed by this.  It's hard enough, sometimes, to decipher what Ken Nemeth is trying to say.  However, by comparison, Dave Dial makes him sound like Vince Scully or Red Barber.

Unfortunately, the lisping Rose-Hulman announcer is also a dunce.  Nobody seems to know how to describe a batted-ball and to put forth a clear, slow, description of what's happening before them.  They get so damned excited they don't tell you anything.

There have been two amazing plays in this ballgame.  With one out in the top of the sixth, Rose-Hulman had men on second and third.  A fly ball was hit to center fielder Jake Sankal, who made the grab.  Both runners tagged up and the throw went to the plate.  Safe at home, and the other guy advances to third.  Wooster, though, then appealed at second, feeling the runner had left early.  He was called OUT, and the run that had just scored was taken off the board!

After a discussion among the umpires, minds were changed, and the run was COUNTED!  This brought Wooster coach Tim Pettorini out of the dugout and there was a long discussion.  Eventually, and belatedly, the alternate umpire emerged from somewhere with a rule book.  A passage was read, which apparently displeased Pettorini, who according to the Rose-Hulman announcer flung the rule book into the dirt.  The run stood, and unbelievably Pettorini was not ejected!

Then, in the bottom of the sixth, after a lead-off single by O'Donnell, Sankal doubled.  O'Donnell came around to try to score, and on the throw to the plate somebody, I think it was the RH catcher, threw his glove at the ball to try to stop it.  O'Donnell scored, and Sankal, who was on his way to third on the throw to the plate, was awarded ANOTHER base and came home to score!  Totally bizarre.

The game is now in the ninth, the score 7-7.  As Dave Dial would say, for both teams.   

Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: old scot on May 16, 2008, 06:51:54 PM
Just started listening to the game in the 9th. Dial is a Bozo. Why would you have someone who knows nothing about baseball broadcast. He admitted it on air saying he would be lost without Nemeth explaining it to him.

Questionable coaching by Woo in the 9th. Lead off hitter gets on 1st. No SAC bunt called for. Runner steals 2nd. No SAC bunt called for to move the runner 3rd. Batter pops up. Next up is your hottest hitter. RH intentionally walks him to set up DP. No brain-er.
If you SAC the runner to 3rd, it makes the call by RH coach more difficult. I guess I like to play the percentages.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2008, 07:28:21 PM
It's now still tied in the 13th!!!  :P

This doesn't bode well for either team going forward...  ???
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: old scot on May 16, 2008, 07:54:06 PM
Wooster wins 11-8. 2 out walhoff grand slam by Johnson.

Coach P gets tossed. Is he able to coach the next game?
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2008, 07:54:45 PM
HOLY COW!!!

With Wooster down to their last strike, sophomore Matt Johnson hits a walk off grand slam to keep the Scots alive for another game!!!  :P  ;D

Final (13):

Wooster - 11
RHIT - 8
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 16, 2008, 07:55:10 PM
Routine ending.  Bottom of the thirteenth, Wooster down one, three of Wooster's coaches get tossed, then Matt Johnson unveils a grand salami for the win!!!!
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: transydad on May 16, 2008, 07:58:31 PM

Two questions. Why didnt wooster bunt with no one out and man on first. The single would of scored him with the win. Then the batters interference doesn't matter. Are the coaches allowed to coach in the next game and if not who is the head coach. I think this hurts wooster. Anyway great game good win wooster.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: old scot on May 16, 2008, 08:11:00 PM
Transydad,
            Wooster is above bunting and playing text book baseball. We play for grand slams.(tongue in cheek comment)

Coach P seems to have a disdain for going by the book. More times than not, he opens himself up to be questioned on his coaching moves.

I would also like to know if he is suspended for a game because of being ejected.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2008, 09:33:58 PM
Wooster's lack of bunting and moving runners in the late innings wasn't a factor, as they won the game.  I'm sure just about 90% of teams would've bunted though.

Very suprising that Samson is pitching the game right now against Heidelberg.  He just threw over 8 innings on Wed.  Can't be good for his arm, unless he's only going to go a certain number of innings and then be relieved by Johnny Whole Staff. (I know it's an elimination game and all, but his arm has got to be shot).
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 16, 2008, 09:38:34 PM
I don't like them using Samson at all.  He pitched 8+ with 120+ pitches on Wednesday.  That's one day off.  You just don't do that.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2008, 09:44:38 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 16, 2008, 09:38:34 PM
I don't like them using Samson at all.  He pitched 8+ with 120+ pitches on Wednesday.  That's one day off.  You just don't do that.
Agreed...

Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2008, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 16, 2008, 09:38:34 PM
I don't like them using Samson at all.  He pitched 8+ with 120+ pitches on Wednesday.  That's one day off.  You just don't do that.

agree.  I was thinking he would come back and throw tomorrow in the Championship on 2 days rest.  Then again, maybe he wanted the ball, and this being his Sr. year, there's no holding back.....I still would've held him and maybe used him for two innings in relief.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: transydad on May 16, 2008, 09:55:55 PM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2008, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Wooster Booster on May 16, 2008, 09:38:34 PM
I don't like them using Samson at all.  He pitched 8+ with 120+ pitches on Wednesday.  That's one day off.  You just don't do that.

agree.  I was thinking he would come back and throw tomorrow in the Championship on 2 days rest.  Then again, maybe he wanted the ball, and this being his Sr. year, there's no holding back.....I still would've held him and maybe used him for two innings in relief.


I agree with you guys my son is a pitcher and I wouldn't want him to pitch again either. But you have to give the kid credit he is pitching a heck of a game so far.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2008, 09:58:34 PM
Scoreless through 5.

Nothing less would be expected in a win or go home game between the region's top 2 seeds!

Thomas is working a one hitter for Heide and Samson has held the Student Prince  (NOT Princes as we were told by Ken Nemeth is the proper way it is now said) to 3 hits.  Think there might be a little pressure at the plate being seen by both teams?  :-\
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2008, 10:14:49 PM
I'm not sure either offense wants it bad enough tonight....looks like they re definitely cautious and tight at the plate, trying to avoid the mistake instead of being aggresive and making something happen.

HEID gets the leadoff double in the bottom of the 7th, but DOESN'T move him over and in.....that could be very costly.

still socreless heading to the 9th!!

***** side note - this is the first time I've listenned to the Wooster broadcast, and you guys are right.....just brutal
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 16, 2008, 10:27:59 PM
Mideast Fan -

Are you kidding?  You're listening to Ken Nemeth, the GOOD announcer!  :)  He probably finally had the Terre Haute mafia drag Dave Dial off to some dive bar.  And from what I've read about that burg, they have plenty of them.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2008, 10:31:44 PM
lol...the good one , huh?  wow; I guess I'm used to listenning to our Marietta guys.  I couldn't imagine what the other guy must've been like.

Nemeth just spent that half inning apoligizing for not being prepared over and over again, and it took him awhile to figure out Sankal was on first...lol.....oh well, at least there is live Audio to listen to!!!!
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2008, 10:39:14 PM
Quote from: transydad on May 16, 2008, 09:55:55 PM
I agree with you guys my son is a pitcher and I wouldn't want him to pitch again either. But you have to give the kid credit he is pitching a heck of a game so far.
The funny thing is, this is arguably Samson's best outing this season.  What a valiant effort by Samson on one day's rest!

Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2008, 10:31:44 PM
lol...the good one , huh?  wow; I guess I'm used to listenning to our Marietta guys.  I couldn't imagine what the other guy must've been like.

Nemeth just spent that half inning apoligizing for not being prepared over and over again, and it took him awhile to figure out Sankal was on first...lol.....oh well, at least there is live Audio to listen to!!!!
To be fair, Nemeth is the station manager and he is retiring.  Although, he said that he might be open to continuing doing the Scots baseball play by play.  Thank god he doesn't do Scots hoops!  :P
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 16, 2008, 10:41:50 PM
I really like the basketball guy; is it Mike Breckenridge?  He knows the game, the team, is prepared, and gives and entertaining and, I think, unbiased call of the game.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2008, 10:42:47 PM
 I just started to listen 2 innings ago, and he's entertaining.  I thought it was bad at first, but it's gotten better once I've gotten used to it.

Samson has thrown amazing so far.....still don't agree with him throwing on 1 days rest, but WOW, what a performance.  He's reaching the 100 pitch count as I type this in the bottom of the 8th with 2 outs (huge play by Wooster'd defense).
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2008, 10:47:41 PM
Thomas is throwing great for HEId as well......he threw an awesome game last week against Marietta on Championship Saturday, and I didn't think he could follow that performance, but WOW.  It would be hard to find a #4 pitcher as strong as him over the last week (when it matters most).

9 innings, 0 runs, 2 hits.

heading to the bottom of the 9th, still scoreless.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2008, 10:56:31 PM
hard luck loss for Samson and the Scots.  He got the ground ball, but doesn't soudn like it was hit hard enough to turn two.


***** there's the other announcer......lol....wow
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2008, 11:14:44 PM
I fee like I was listening to the Indians of late!  Great pitching performance wasted by a lack of offense...

Not to take away anything from Thomas.  He pitched one hell of a game as well. 

As I said before.  This game was nothing short of what you'd expect from the top 2 teams in the regional fighting for their post season lives! 
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 17, 2008, 12:45:20 AM
Wow!  1-0 games are supposed to happen in the first game (when aces face off), not at this point of the tourney. ;)

As far as I've noticed, #5 Adrian's advantageous position is exceeded only by #6 Webster's position in the Central.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 17, 2008, 08:29:01 PM
Well, to say Heidelberg blew their opportunity to go to the Series, would be an understatement.  It's unfortunate for the Ber, but CONGRATS to Adrian for making their first World Series!!


Heidelberg won the first game 8-2 today to force a winner-take-all matchup.  They led 7-5 heading to the bottom of the 9th, and gave up 3 runs....Adrian advances.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: hope1 on May 18, 2008, 07:20:37 AM
way to go bulldogs go  all the way
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: old scot on May 18, 2008, 08:18:26 AM
Congratulations to the Adrian Bulldogs, 2008 Mid  East Region Champs.

I would say this was a well balanced region, filled with exciting and pressure packed games. Starting with Wooster's 2 out bottom of 13th slam to beat RH,to the Berg pushing across a run in the bottom of the 9th to beat Woo, to Heidelberg scoring late to push Adrian to a final game, To the Bulldogs scoring 3 in the bottom of the 9th to win it all. WOW!
Nobody backed its way into this title. Well done, great show: to all the competing teams.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: rhitfan on May 18, 2008, 11:02:02 AM
In what was probably the craziest game of the whole tournament (hopefully nothing tops it in the World Series), not just for it going to the 13th inning and ending in a walk-off grandslam, but also all the other things that don't necessarily get reported....

I know somewhere it said the Rose-Hulman was most likely to disappoint, but I know despite going 1-2, every fan is proud of the team because every game was fought till the end.

Here is a recap on what actually happened in the 13th inning, ejections and all:

http://www.tribstar.com/sports/local_story_137234648.html
http://www.tribstar.com/sports/local_story_137233906.html?keyword=topstory
http://www.tribstar.com/sports_columns/local_story_138233655.html

All three very interesting reads.....
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 18, 2008, 11:58:34 AM
Quote from: rhitfan on May 18, 2008, 11:02:02 AM
In what was probably the craziest game of the whole tournament (hopefully nothing tops it in the World Series), not just for it going to the 13th inning and ending in a walk-off grandslam, but also all the other things that don't necessarily get reported....

I know somewhere it said the Rose-Hulman was most likely to disappoint, but I know despite going 1-2, every fan is proud of the team because every game was fought till the end.

Here is a recap on what actually happened in the 13th inning, ejections and all:

http://www.tribstar.com/sports/local_story_137234648.html
http://www.tribstar.com/sports/local_story_137233906.html?keyword=topstory
http://www.tribstar.com/sports_columns/local_story_138233655.html

All three very interesting reads.....

from: http://www.tribstar.com/sports/local_story_137234648.html

Pettorini had already thrown a rulebook into his dugout in disgust during a sixth-inning dispute over a successful base appeal. Second base umpire Chuck Adya ruled that Rose-Hulman's Gabe Focke left second base early after he tagged on an Alex Decker one-out sacrifice fly that scored Kirk Thompson from third.

Initially, the umpires ruled that Thompson's run didn't count, but the umpiring crew requested a rulebook from a game official in the bleachers, and after a near-10-minute delay to consult it, ruled that the run did count and it was put back on the board, putting Rose-Hulman up 6-5. Pettorini did not accept the explanation of their ruling.

Since the appeal was made after the run from third had scored and after the play was over (a new batter was at the plate when the appeal was made), the run was allowed to count.

****

To make the appeal, don't you step on the rubber and throw to the bag (second in this case) before you throw a pitch to the batter?  If you throw a pitch to a batter, you lose your appeal.  Sounds pretty clear to me although it did not change the result of the game - maybe used up 4 innings of pitchers for the next
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: woosterbooster on May 18, 2008, 12:08:23 PM
I would love to see some video of the batter interference call and the dispute that followed.
Title: Re: BB: 2008 Rose-Hulman Regional
Post by: KYGrizzly on May 18, 2008, 06:44:01 PM
Congratulations to Adrian for winning the Mideast Regional. I wish then the best of luck in the world series.

In regards to the appeal play, I was always under the impression that on a fly ball where the runner leaves the base early that he was not forced leave the bag and that is why the play is considered a put out. In which the player would have to be put out before the run crossed the plate. It looks like the unpires may have gotten the call right after talking it over.
Title: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 25, 2008, 11:55:44 PM
Let's conduct the discussion of the 2009 Regional tournament held at Adrian on this board.
Title: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 11, 2009, 05:02:50 PM
I see Concordia-Chicago gets Wooster in its' first game. The Cougars have several guys who can hit the long ball, but Wooster had a higher team batting average and better overall ERA. Concordia-Chicago's pitching will be key in this game.
Title: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 11, 2009, 05:06:08 PM
I have wooster in this game
Title: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: macdade77 on May 12, 2009, 01:37:43 PM
Wooster has two absolute mashers in Beath and Groesinger, a great lead-off man in Karpen and two elite pitchers in the M & M boys, Miller and McDowell. Plus Wooster has played and beaten more ranked teams(7) than anyone else in the field. But, games are won on the diamond and not by us pundits!!!
Title: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 13, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
Well, it wouldn't be a Mideast Regional without rain...  :-\

Looking at the radar, rain is moving in.  Hopefully, the rain will have moved on by the time of the 1st pitch at noon.

The forecast is calling for showers and thunderstorms all afternoon though:

Hour by Hour Forecast (http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/hourbyhour/graph/USMI0004?from=36hr_topnav_sports)
Title: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 13, 2009, 11:21:01 AM
Scots Fan,
      It looks like rain all day long. Weather delays will be tough on the pitching staffs.
Title: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: RFMichigan on May 13, 2009, 11:31:07 AM
A couple of questions about the rain scenario:
I'm thinking about making the two hour trip to Adrian to see CUC but only if the starting time is delayed by an hour or two. But if they are delayed by an hour or two, will they be able to play past 7:30 p.m. or so? Is the field at Adrian equipped with lights? Will they go "late" into the night? Is there a "rain day" built into the tournament schedule?
Fill me in.
Title: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 13, 2009, 12:05:21 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on May 13, 2009, 11:31:07 AM
A couple of questions about the rain scenario:
I'm thinking about making the two hour trip to Adrian to see CUC but only if the starting time is delayed by an hour or two. But if they are delayed by an hour or two, will they be able to play past 7:30 p.m. or so? Is the field at Adrian equipped with lights? Will they go "late" into the night? Is there a "rain day" built into the tournament schedule?
Fill me in.

Adrian's field is lighted.  I think having a field that is equipped with lights is now a critreia for hosting a regional.  So, yes, they will be able to play past 7:30.  And yes, they will play 'late' into the night if needed and by that, I mean well past midnight... 

As far as a 'rain day' is concerned, I would guess they would just move games back as needed until they finish the regional.  Seeing as how the CWS doesn't start until May 22nd, they have plenty of time to get all the games in.

Quote from: old scot on May 13, 2009, 11:21:01 AM
Scots Fan,
      It looks like rain all day long. Weather delays will be tough on the pitching staffs.
I was thinking the same thing old scot.  Wooster especially, can't afford to have too many rain delays. 

As it is right now, the start of the opener of the regional is being delayed.   No time has been given as to when the first pitch is expected...
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 13, 2009, 12:32:40 PM
You can also join us on the Daily Dose for discussion of all eight regionals. Follow along with us or contribute items from games you're following.

http://www.d3sports.com/dailydose/2009/05/13/regionals-underway/

Not to squelch discussion here at all, please continue! Just hoping to get occasional contributions from those following the games.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 13, 2009, 12:47:58 PM
Thanks for the link Pat.  I'll try to update the 'Daily Dose' page when I'm able to.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: fantastic50 on May 13, 2009, 02:04:34 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 13, 2009, 12:05:21 PM
As far as a 'rain day' is concerned, I would guess they would just move games back as needed until they finish the regional.  Seeing as how the CWS doesn't start until May 22nd, they have plenty of time to get all the games in.

As with a lot of other things, the NCAA seems to contradict itself in the handbook.
http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/baseball/2009/3_baseball_handbook.pdf (http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/baseball/2009/3_baseball_handbook.pdf)

From page 13...
"If inclement weather is involved, the last possible time a regional championship game will be permitted to start is 9 p.m. local time Monday, May 18. If the regional representative cannot be determined on the field of play by this time, one team will be selected by the committee."



And from page 15...
Method of determining regional champion if play cannot be completed:

Six-team tournament:

a. Up until one team becomes 3-0, the highest-seeded team that has not been eliminated will advance to the finals in Appleton.

b. If teams have an equal number of losses, the higher-seeded team, as determined by the Baseball Committee before the start of regional play, will advance to the finals in Appleton.




Hopefully, it won't come to this...
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 13, 2009, 06:19:57 PM
Today's games have been officially cancelled and moved back to tomorrow according to the Adrian Mideast Regional website.  First pitch of game one is set for 10 a.m.  And it looks as though they are going to try and get 4 games in tomorrow as well.

Tomorrow's forecast looks a little better.  They're calling for a.m. showers clearing out by around the time of the first game and then partly cloudy the rest of the day.  Friday looks good as well.  Lets hope the weather cooperates tomorrow...
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 13, 2009, 08:03:13 PM
Well, no games played in the Mid East region today. All I have to say is "LET'S GO PENS". Penguins up on Caps 2-0 after the first period.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 13, 2009, 08:56:03 PM
Pens up 5-1 after second period.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 13, 2009, 10:02:03 PM
Well, I may as well finish this. Pens win 6-2 to advance to the Eastern Conference Final.

Hopefully Thursday will bring sunshine and baseball to Adrian.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Gramps on May 14, 2009, 12:56:54 AM
It was no fun sitting and freezing for five hours.  There's got to be a better way to decide on whether to go on or not.   
We kept hearing maybe 3:00, -----3:00 comes ----, maybe 4:00,  no ---wait till 5:00, than we'll decide whether to play or go home.  OK, you can go home.  As the teams were departing, the concession stand was giving them pizza, hot dogs, and popcorn.

There just has to be a better way.  Any suggestions???  I know that a lot of you have been through this same or simular situation.

Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 14, 2009, 08:34:32 AM
unfortunatetly, there really isn't another way to do it.  It's all about waiting it out.

I remember back in 1999, we were playing Wooster in a regional elimination game in Canton.  The game started, and after a couple innings the rain started falling.  We had a four hour rain delay, sitting there just watching the field get pounded.  When it stopped, we went out and finished the game.  The parents/fans were miserable, but nothing can be done.

You just need to get the games in whenever there's a window of opportunity, and if that means waiting in the rain all day, then unfortunately that's what happens.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 14, 2009, 11:13:02 AM
They've played five in Adrian and we've got the regional's first upset in the making.

RHIT - 9
Heide - 0

:o

RHIT plated 6 runs with two outs in the top half of the 4th inning.

I knew that RHIT would be a tough first round match-up, but still, this is a very surprising score thus far...

Heide would be the third #1 seed to lose their opener in the tournament so far joining Eastern Conn and Cortland State as #1 seeds in the losers bracket early in the tournament.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2009, 11:33:10 AM
^^^^^  Wow.  Definitely wasn't expecting that.  Berg has only mustered 3 hits off of Eitel so far.  Rally time Berg! 

I'm concerned for all 3 Ohio teams' pitching this year.  Between injury, youth/inexperience and inconsistency these aren't the strongest staffs any of these schools have headed to regionals with.  But it's early.  I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for an all Ohio regional final.   
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 14, 2009, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2009, 11:33:10 AM
I'm concerned for all 3 Ohio teams' pitching this year.  Between injury, youth/inexperience and inconsistency these aren't the strongest staffs any of these schools have headed to regionals with.  But it's early.  I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for an all Ohio regional final.   
I agree.  But, of all the Ohio schools, I thought Heide had the most quality and depth which is why I had them as a heavy favorite to move on to Appleton from the Mideast in my mind.

Wooster could be dangerous if they get off to a strong start today and are able to not have to go deep with any of their main 3 arms.  But if Wooster stumbles out of the gates like Heide, I don't trust that they have the depth of quality proven arms to try and dig themselves out of the LB.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on May 14, 2009, 11:51:21 AM
Berg finally scored on 3 straight 2-out singles in the bottom of the 8th.

RHIT 9
Berg 1
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 14, 2009, 12:09:37 PM
And RHIT responded with 2 more in the top of the ninth.

11-1 heading into the bottom of the 9th!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on May 14, 2009, 12:17:31 PM
hmmm...

Live Scoreboard shows 12-1, with RHIT getting 3 more 2-out runs (after the first two batters were retired, 3 straight walks, followed by a couple of singles).  That's 9 runs socred by RHIT after 2 outs in a single game!!  Gonna be tough for Berg to recover in their next game (yes, I am pretty much counting them out of this one)
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on May 14, 2009, 12:25:10 PM
Berg scores 1 more in the bottom of the 9th (with 2 outs) for a final score of

RHIT 12
Berg 2
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2009, 12:27:42 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 14, 2009, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2009, 11:33:10 AM
I'm concerned for all 3 Ohio teams' pitching this year.  Between injury, youth/inexperience and inconsistency these aren't the strongest staffs any of these schools have headed to regionals with.  But it's early.  I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for an all Ohio regional final.   
I agree.  But, of all the Ohio schools, I thought Heide had the most quality and depth which is why I had them as a heavy favorite to move on to Appleton from the Mideast in my mind.

Wooster could be dangerous if they get off to a strong start today and are able to not have to go deep with any of their main 3 arms.  But if Wooster stumbles out of the gates like Heide, I don't trust that they have the depth of quality proven arms to try and dig themselves out of the LB.

Thought the same thing about Berg.  With Paddock, Thomas and Koehl they have 3 starters that were in the rotation last year also.  And they have Lowe in the pen.  I'm interested to see who gets the ball for them in the next game.

Is Trap OK for Wooster?  I saw you guys talking about him having some arm issues.

mideast, I'm also interested to see who your Pios start.  Any thoughts?  
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 14, 2009, 12:47:32 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2009, 12:27:42 PM
Is Trap OK for Wooster?  I saw you guys talking about him having some arm issues.
Trap is dealing with torn labrum in his shoulder.  I remember listening to the broadcast of Wooster's last game vs. Kenyon and the announcers were saying how surprised they were that Trap hadn't shut it down, but being that he is a senior, he is gutting it out and giving all he can to contribute.  I thought he gave a pretty valiant effort last Saturday vs. Kenyon for not being close to 100%.  He gave up a leadoff HR and then settled down to hold the Lords to that lone run through three innings.  And then with 2 outs in the 4th, he just had nothing left and couldn't get out of the inning before 4 more runs were charged to him. 

Personally, I think Trap is going to be a factor whether or not the Scots have success or not.  If he can give the Scots 3-4 innings in a game or two without giving up a big inning, that would be HUGE for the Scots! 
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2009, 01:25:16 PM
The Scots are out of the gates quickly thanks to Groezinger's 3 run HR in the 1st.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 14, 2009, 01:26:57 PM
12-2 Engineers hammer the Berg. Didn't see that coming. Thats why they play the games.

Woo leads 3-0 in bottom of first. Groezinger jacks a 3 run homer. McDowell on the hill for the Scots.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 14, 2009, 02:15:38 PM
After 3 1/2 Wooster leads 4-0.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: fantastic50 on May 14, 2009, 03:51:47 PM
Justin McDowell threw eight innings of shutout ball for the Scots, before giving up a solo homer and two singles in the 9th, at which point the "live" stats have been frozen for about 10 minutes.  At first I thought that the delay was a pitching change, but surely it wouldn't take this long.  I can't get the radio broadcast; does anyone have an update?

McDowell has thrown 132 pitches, so I can't see him being back on the mound again in the regionals.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: seinfeld on May 14, 2009, 03:59:31 PM
Wooster wins 5-1. Miller strikes out both batters he faces, including the final out with the tying run at the plate.

http://adrianbulldogs.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2008-2009/game2.html
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: fantastic50 on May 14, 2009, 04:10:09 PM
Thanks.  I see that Mark Miller walked one batter, after the first strikeout.  Getting the bases-loaded strikeout to end the game is definitely a clutch performance.

This should put Wooster into the last game tomorrow, facing the Adrian-Marietta winner.  The schedule (link below) currently shows Wooster facing Rose-Hulman tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure that's not correct.
http://adrianbulldogs.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/09mideastregional.html (http://adrianbulldogs.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/09mideastregional.html)
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 14, 2009, 04:15:39 PM
Nice win for the Scots. Their forth and fifth runs were scored on wild pitches.

As far as not seeing McDowell pitch for the rest of the regional, don't count that out. Wooster is already short handed on pitching and Coach P has been known to run them out there if they say they go.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 14, 2009, 04:45:41 PM
Fantastic50,
      You are correct.  Wooster will play the winner of the Etta-Adrian game and RH will play the loser of that game. Heidelberg will play CC in the losers bracket.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 14, 2009, 05:08:17 PM
Is Coach Brewer rolling the dice in starting Stewart in the opener? He has the best ERA on the staff but, is fifth on the amount of innings pitched. Can someone enlighten me?
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 14, 2009, 05:56:24 PM
Well, I guess it doesn't matter about the pitching choice Coach Brewer made. Marietta is laying the wood to Adrian. 10-2 after five.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 14, 2009, 07:10:56 PM
Looks like it's going to be Wooster vs. Marietta tomorrow evening in a battle of familiar Mideast Regional foes!

Hats off to Justin McDowell's pitching performance today!  Concordia averaged 9+ runs per game this season and he held them to one run in 8+ innings of work!  It would have been nice to see Justin not have to throw so many pitches, but, as old scot mentioned, don't be surprised to see Justin making another appearance before the regional is over whether it be as a starter or out of the pen. 

What was nice for Wooster today is that they didn't have to use up any other arms!  Miller only faced 2 batters so he will be ready to go tomorrow in whatever role is needed.  And Matt DeGrand didn't have to throw at all! 

All in all, this was pretty much a perfectly scripted start for the Scots!  Lets hope they can keep it rolling tomorrow against the always dangerous Pios!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 14, 2009, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 14, 2009, 05:08:17 PM
Is Coach Brewer rolling the dice in starting Stewart in the opener? He has the best ERA on the staff but, is fifth on the amount of innings pitched. Can someone enlighten me?

Stewart can bounce back on shorter rest, if needed later in the tournament.  Knowlton on the other hand is pretty much done for the tournament once he give the team a long outing.....that was the reason that Brewer gave in his pre-game radio interview.

It all worked out, and tomorrow's Marietta vs Wooster game will be a great one!!!

***  oh yeah, sorry I wasn't around today guys, I have family in town and din't really get to listen or follow any of the games.  Same goes for the rest of the weekend :(  I'll be checking in though, so keep me updated!!!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 15, 2009, 09:50:37 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 14, 2009, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 14, 2009, 05:08:17 PM
Is Coach Brewer rolling the dice in starting Stewart in the opener? He has the best ERA on the staff but, is fifth on the amount of innings pitched. Can someone enlighten me?

Stewart can bounce back on shorter rest, if needed later in the tournament.  Knowlton on the other hand is pretty much done for the tournament once he give the team a long outing.....that was the reason that Brewer gave in his pre-game radio interview.

It all worked out, and tomorrow's Marietta vs Wooster game will be a great one!!!

***  oh yeah, sorry I wasn't around today guys, I have family in town and din't really get to listen or follow any of the games.  Same goes for the rest of the weekend :(  I'll be checking in though, so keep me updated!!!

ROse hulman is gonna win this thing....
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: oacfan on May 15, 2009, 10:23:39 AM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 15, 2009, 09:50:37 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 14, 2009, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 14, 2009, 05:08:17 PM
Is Coach Brewer rolling the dice in starting Stewart in the opener? He has the best ERA on the staff but, is fifth on the amount of innings pitched. Can someone enlighten me?

Stewart can bounce back on shorter rest, if needed later in the tournament.  Knowlton on the other hand is pretty much done for the tournament once he give the team a long outing.....that was the reason that Brewer gave in his pre-game radio interview.

It all worked out, and tomorrow's Marietta vs Wooster game will be a great one!!!

***  oh yeah, sorry I wasn't around today guys, I have family in town and din't really get to listen or follow any of the games.  Same goes for the rest of the weekend :(  I'll be checking in though, so keep me updated!!!

ROse hulman is gonna win this thing....



Not a chance for Rose Hulman... Wait untill they get on the field against one of the Mid-East Powers A.K.A Wooster or Marietta... I was listening to the Adrian broadcast for a little bit yesterday and the anouncers were talking to the players about Marietta.. the Adrian kids were saying that Marietta is basically the Mount Union of baseball...  That was exactly what they said... They were beat before they took the field
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 15, 2009, 10:31:56 AM
they lost 15 times to somebody........

Marietta has a tough game with Wooster first.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 15, 2009, 10:33:51 AM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 15, 2009, 09:50:37 AM
ROse hulman is gonna win this thing....
Just like your prediction of Ott making the tournament???  ::)   I'm not saying RHIT doesn't have a shot.  I'm just saying there's still a ton of baseball left to be played before we start proclaiming who the winner is going to be...

Quote from: oacfan on May 15, 2009, 10:23:39 AM
Not a chance for Rose Hulman... Wait untill they get on the field against one of the Mid-East Powers A.K.A Wooster or Marietta... I was listening to the Adrian broadcast for a little bit yesterday and the anouncers were talking to the players about Marietta.. the Adrian kids were saying that Marietta is basically the Mount Union of baseball...  That was exactly what they said... They were beat before they took the field
And I also wouldn't go this far in saying that RHIT has no chance...

It's not like Heide is chopped liver.  They may not have the history of success that Marietta has, but in recent history, the Student Princes have very much been a force in the Mideast Regional.  You don't earn the #1 seed in the Mideast Regional back to back years for nothing.  You have to be playing some pretty damn good baseball to accomplish a feat like that.

All I'm saying is that you shouldn't diminish RHIT's thrashing of Heide yesterday because that was a very impressive win over a team I felt was a heavy favorite to win this regional...
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: oacfan on May 15, 2009, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 15, 2009, 10:31:56 AM
they lost 15 times to somebody........

Marietta has a tough game with Wooster first.


It Sure seemed to get into Adrians mind.  And everyone Knows May is Marieetas Month, the last 3 Bids have been at larges and the last 2 they won.  They find a different gear when they get there..
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: countyroad on May 15, 2009, 01:04:12 PM
Quote from: oacfan on May 15, 2009, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 15, 2009, 10:31:56 AM
they lost 15 times to somebody........

Marietta has a tough game with Wooster first.


It Sure seemed to get into Adrians mind.  And everyone Knows May is Marieetas Month, the last 3 Bids have been at larges and the last 2 they won.  They find a different gear when they get there..

Maybe it's the pin stripes?   ;)  Gonna be a good match up tonight with Wooster.  I hope the Scots prevail.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 15, 2009, 01:37:38 PM
Berg takes care of Concordia 14-2.  Strong outing for Brian Koehl. 
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: fantastic50 on May 15, 2009, 01:55:47 PM
If Rose-Hulman beats the host school, then tomorrow's first contest will be an elimination game between Heidelberg and the Wooster-Marietta loser.  That would be quite a battle, either way.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 15, 2009, 02:47:47 PM
Weather's moving in again up in Michigan...  :-\

With the RHIT v. Adrian game not even started yet, they'll be lucky to even get that one completely in.  Maybe that's why they haven't started?

I'm guessing we will be waiting for tomorrow for Wooster v. Marietta. 

Damn rain!  >:(
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: fantastic50 on May 15, 2009, 03:38:28 PM
What I'm seeing is that the game started at 2:20, and is now 4-4 in the top of the 5th inning.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2009, 06:27:02 PM
Adrian wrecks the bracket and stays alive with an extra inning win over Rose Hulman.  Gotta love these 6-team brackets when there are five teams left after day two!! :)

Next up:

GAME SIX - Wooster vs Marietta
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 15, 2009, 07:24:14 PM
I guess Wooster and Marietta are in a rain delay.  I can't get either schools radio broadcast and the are no live stats on the regional site.

Starting lineups  posted has Miller on the mound for Woo and Baumler of Etta.

Can some of the Marietta guys tell me what happened to Justin Merryman? He is not on their playoff roster. Good offensive player plus valuable on the mound.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: David Collinge on May 15, 2009, 07:30:51 PM
Wooster/Marietta seems to have been postponed until Saturday at noon.  If I'm reading this bracket correctly, the loser of that game (Game 6) will have to play a doubleheader, immediately suiting up for an elimination game vs. Rose at 3:30, while both Adrian and Heidelberg sit around until their 7pm first pitch.  (All of this is, of course, weather permitting.)  I'm not sure why those two games couldn't be reversed; I'm also not sure whether it would be better for the Woo/'Etta loser to have a few hours off between games.  I am sure, however, that it would be exponentially better to win Game 6 than to lose it.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 15, 2009, 08:00:09 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on May 15, 2009, 07:30:51 PM
Wooster/Marietta seems to have been postponed until Saturday at noon.  If I'm reading this bracket correctly, the loser of that game (Game 6) will have to play a doubleheader, immediately suiting up for an elimination game vs. Rose at 3:30, while both Adrian and Heidelberg sit around until their 7pm first pitch.  (All of this is, of course, weather permitting.)  I'm not sure why those two games couldn't be reversed; I'm also not sure whether it would be better for the Woo/'Etta loser to have a few hours off between games.  I am sure, however, that it would be exponentially better to win Game 6 than to lose it.
This really makes it difficult for the loser of Game 6!  It really doesn't make much sense to not let Heide and Adrian play the middle game and then have the loser of game 6 take on RHIT in the nightcap.

All in all, staying in the winners bracket is always exponetially better and especially in this case!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Gramps on May 15, 2009, 08:39:25 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 15, 2009, 01:37:38 PM
Berg takes care of Concordia 14-2.  Strong outing for Brian Koehl. 

The Berg unveiled their "Rally Hawks", a Mohawk haircut, as an inspirational and motivational thrust for the team for this game and the rest of the tournament. As the proof is in the pudding, the first test was a success. As we all know, baseball players are superstitious, and this is a team that has faced adversity. Anyhow, only the future holds the key,
so we'll have to wait and see the end results.

GO BERG!!!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 16, 2009, 12:42:41 AM
Quote from: old scot on May 15, 2009, 07:24:14 PM
Can some of the Marietta guys tell me what happened to Justin Merryman? He is not on their playoff roster. Good offensive player plus valuable on the mound.

mideastfan might know the specifics, but what I can tell you is that I don't recall seeing his name in their boxscores much after the Mount DH (2nd week of April).  I would have to assume injury because it's certainly not a grade issue (he was Etta's male recipient of the Clyde Lamb Award and you have to have at least a 3.0 to even be considered). 
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2009, 08:25:17 AM
Unfortunately for Justin, he's done for the year.  He has a medical condition that won't allow him to play any longer, and he's been out for about the half the season.  I don't know much more than that.

He was awarded Marietta College's 2008-09 Male Athlete of the Year, for his steller work in the classroom, as well as on the field over his last four years!!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2009, 12:21:42 PM
What a surprise...  It's raining yet again up in Adrian...  ::)

Does anyone happen to know what the scenario is if there is no winner determined by the deadline of Monday night?  Because this is looking more and more like we won't be getting done before Monday night's deadline.

Hopefully the forecast for tomorrow and Monday stays true.  They're calling for 0% chance of rain tomorrow and only a 10% chance on Monday so they should be able to get quite a few games in over the next two days.  It all depends on how many delays we get today because of the rain...  ???

This game is extremely pivotal now for the winner.  For Wooster, seeing that there last game was Thursday, is it possible that if they win, that McDowell could be available to pitch for them tomorrow? 

Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 16, 2009, 12:28:40 PM
Handbook (http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/baseball/2009/3_baseball_handbook.pdf)

QuoteMethod of determining regional champion if play cannot be completed:

Six-team tournament:
a. Up until one team becomes 3-0, the highest-seeded team that has not been eliminated
will advance to the finals inAppleton.
b. If teams have an equal number of losses, the higher-seeded team, as determined by
the Baseball Committee before the start of regional play, will advance to the finals in
Appleton.

Eight-team tournament:
a. Up until the completion of game four the highest seeded team will advance to the finals
in Appleton.
b. Up until the completion of game 9, the highest-seeded undefeated team will advance
to the finals in Appleton.
c. After game 9, the undefeated team will advance to Appleton. If both teams have the
same number of losses the higher-seeded team will advance to Appleton.
For all rounds of competition, the committee will do its best to make sure that no
team plays more than two games in a day, barring unforeseen circumstances.

Championship Finals. The eight winners of the competitions will advance to the
championship series. The championship finals bracket, including dates, and game
times, may be found in Appendix A.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 16, 2009, 02:19:32 PM
After 4, Wooster 8, Etta1. Scots score 5 times in the bottom of the 4th with 2 out.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 16, 2009, 02:38:46 PM
Woo 10, Etta 1, Etta is batting in the top of the 6th.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 16, 2009, 03:13:20 PM
Wooster leading 11-1 in the bottom of the 7th. Scots are still batting with the bases loaded and 1 out. Wooster is swinging the bats pretty well, out hitting Etta 15-3 thus far.

I wonder if Coach P will pull Miller with a 10 run lead and try to preserve future innings if needed.

The live stats must be frozen or this is the longest pitching change ever.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2009, 03:19:12 PM
Another perfectly scripted game for the Scots in this regional!  Mark Miller gives the Scots another outstanding start going 7 innings and having to throw only 88 pitches!

And the offense backed up Miller allowing Pettorini to go to one of the youngsters in the pen as Tanner Hall worked a scoreless 8th.

So, unless the Pios can pull off a miraculous rally, the Scots will be able to sit back and relax the rest of the day awaiting their opponent for tomorrow!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 16, 2009, 03:50:52 PM
Final:  Wooster 13  Marietta 3  :)

Nice win for the Scots as they are now the only undefeated team left in the regional.  As Scotsfan noted, Mark Miller only threw 88 pitches which should leave him available for some relief work tomorrow if needed.

When Wooster takes the field tomorrow, there will be only 3 teams left in the regional.

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: countyroad on May 16, 2009, 05:08:09 PM
Way to go Scots.  Heckuva job.

It's nice to see things going the Scots way.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2009, 08:10:30 PM
Well.  We've got ourselves a rematch...

Marietta knocked RHIT out of the tournament 5-2 meaning the Pios will again face the Scots tomorrow at noon.

If Heide can knock off Adrian this evening, it would mean the 3 remaining schools would be Ohio schools!  Adrian has scored in the top of the 5th to take a 1-0 lead so the Student Princes have some work to do to make it an all-Ohio regional...
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 16, 2009, 09:07:37 PM
Adrian leads Berg 3-1 and is batting in the top of the 9th.


Final   Adrian 3  Heidelberg 1.

Heidelberg is eliminated.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Ryder16 on May 16, 2009, 10:18:31 PM
why is it that if adrian and 'etta both have a loss.... in a double elimination tourney, they dont face each other  with the winner playing the undefeated wooster team. it just seems like bad logistics, etta could lose to wooster twice in a row. while adrian gets to sit back and play the winner in their first game of the day, but it would be the second of a double header for whoever they play.....
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2009, 10:52:22 PM
Quote from: Ryder16 on May 16, 2009, 10:18:31 PM
why is it that if adrian and 'etta both have a loss.... in a double elimination tourney, they dont face each other  with the winner playing the undefeated wooster team. it just seems like bad logistics, etta could lose to wooster twice in a row. while adrian gets to sit back and play the winner in their first game of the day, but it would be the second of a double header for whoever they play.....

because if Marietta played Adrian, it would be their FOURTH games of the tournament.  Then the winner would be playing in the championship with a record of 3-1 versus Wooster, who would be only 2-0.  They make it so a team has to play at least FOUR games in the regional to advance.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2009, 11:02:19 PM
Sunday, May 17
Game 9 - Wooster (2-1) vs. Marietta (2-0) - 12:00 p.m.

if Wooster wins....
Game 10 - Adrian vs Wooster - Championship - 3:30pm
Game 11 - same teams (if necessary) - TBA

if Marietta wins....
Game 10 - Adrian vs Wooster - 3:30pm
Game 11 - Marietta vs Game 10 winner - TBA
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: macdade77 on May 17, 2009, 12:03:22 AM
I talked to some guy with NCAA credentials who explained that a team must win four games before they can advance to Appleton. In a typical 6 team, double elimination format, a team could advance with 3 straight wins by defeating the winner of the losers bracket finals.....
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: David Collinge on May 17, 2009, 12:04:01 AM
With Heidelberg eliminated, Wooster is the highest remaining seed.  This could become important if weather makes it impossible to complete the three (or two) games remaining.  So, to advance, it looks like Wooster needs either two wins or two rainouts.

Another tidbit in the handbook:
QuoteFor all rounds of competition, the committee will do its best to make sure that no team plays more than two games in a day, barring unforeseen circumstances.
According to mideastfan2's schedule, Wooster has a triple-header Sunday if they split the first two games.  I wonder if they'd postpone game 11 to Monday if that happens, or play it due to "unforseen circumstances?"  From the little bit of chatter I've read in this room, I wonder if Wooster has the pitching a triple-dip would require.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 17, 2009, 08:28:22 AM
^^^^ I could see GAME 11 being pushed to Monday, but only if Wooster is in it.  If it's Marietta vs Adrian, then it will be played (or at least scheduled) for Sunday.

That's just my guess :)  Oh, and the weather channel is calling for 0% chance of rain in Adrian, MI from today through Monday evening!!!!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 17, 2009, 10:44:54 AM
I'm beginning to think that there might be a curse on being the #1 seed in the Mideast Regional.  The top seed hasn't advanced to Appleton since Wooster's last trip to the CWS in 2005.

Marietta advanced as an at large bid in 2006.  I heard a story on the radio yesterday that Coach Brewer ordered his kids to clean out their lockers and sent them home after they were eliminated in the OAC semis.  Only to find that they had to scramble back because they were awarded a Pool C bid.  I guess they took advantage of their opportunity...  :P  ;)

In 2007, Wooster was the #1 seed and Marietta made a repeat trip to Appleton in 2007 as the 4 seed coming out of the Mideast.

And last year, Heide was #1 in the Mideast and Adrian made it out as the 6 seed!

And now, this year, once again, the #1 is out early as Heide has already been eliminated.  I'm beginning to wonder if earning the #1 seed is really such a good thing after all...  :-\
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 17, 2009, 01:53:06 PM
Haven't been listening to the game, but it looks like it's been an ugly one so far.  Wooster has committed 6 errors and as a result, trail Marietta 6-2.  Marietta has made 3 errors as well BTW.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: David Collinge on May 17, 2009, 04:38:13 PM
Answering my own question, and agreeing with mideastfan2's analysis, the Adrian regional website now says that a potential Wooster/Marietta championship game (Game 11) would be played on Monday, while a potential Adrian/Marietta Game 11 would be tonight, directly after the conclusion of Game 10 (Woo/Adrian). 
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 17, 2009, 05:54:50 PM
Wooster is rebounding nicely, as theybeat Adrian 8-2.

It will be a Marietta vs Wooster Championship game on Monday!!

Pitching wise, Marietta should have everyone available, with the exception of Mark Williams, and possibly TJ Knowlton.  I'm guessing Stewart will get the start.

Wooster's pitching looks like DeGrand and McDowell most likley not available after throwing a ton today, but you never know with Pettorini and how he handles his guys in the post-season..... I've seen him do crazy things with pitch counts.

Should be an exciting day, and whoever wins will represent the region well in Winsconsin!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 17, 2009, 05:58:20 PM
Final:  Wooster 8  Adrian 2

Wooster's Justin McDowell gets the complete game win and is now 2-0 in the regional.  McDowell threw 125 pitches on just 2 days rest to pick up the victory - a fantastic performance by Justin! :)

Championship game tomorrow at Noon vs. Marietta should be a great contest.

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 17, 2009, 06:44:25 PM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 17, 2009, 05:54:50 PM
Wooster is rebounding nicely, as theybeat Adrian 8-2.

It will be a Marietta vs Wooster Championship game on Monday!!

Pitching wise, Marietta should have everyone available, with the exception of Mark Williams, and possibly TJ Knowlton.  I'm guessing Stewart will get the start.

Wooster's pitching looks like DeGrand and McDowell most likley not available after throwing a ton today, but you never know with Pettorini and how he handles his guys in the post-season..... I've seen him do crazy things with pitch counts.

Should be an exciting day, and whoever wins will represent the region well in Winsconsin!

My guess is that we will see Miller on the mound to start for Wooster tomorrow.  And, if he pitches like he did on Saturday, Wooster might not need too many more arms...  8)

And once again, what more can you say about Justin McDowell!!!  He threw 125 more pitches today to go the distance!  If Wooster wins tomorrow, Justin McDowell should be the Regional MVP in a landslide!  And I would not be surprised in the least to see him on the mound tomorrow if Wooster finds themselves in a battle with Marietta...
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 17, 2009, 08:15:25 PM
Just got back in town and had a chance to review today's action.
Game 1 with Etta. Woo sloppy on D. Giving the opponent 6 extra outs is hard to over come. Both teams had 7 hits, all singles. Scots left 11 men on base to the Pios 6. 
Game 2 Scots get off to a quick start scoring 7 runs in the first 4 innings. McDowell gives up 2 runs in the first then puts up 8 goose eggs in going the distance while scattering 6 hits. Outstanding performance. Win or loses, he has to be tourney MVP.

Wooster vs Marietta for a place at the CWS.
With a 1 game season left I would probably guess Coach P will have all his pitchers available. yes, even McDowell if they need 3 outs in the ninth.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: oacfan on May 18, 2009, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 17, 2009, 10:44:54 AM
I'm beginning to think that there might be a curse on being the #1 seed in the Mideast Regional.  The top seed hasn't advanced to Appleton since Wooster's last trip to the CWS in 2005.

Marietta advanced as an at large bid in 2006.  I heard a story on the radio yesterday that Coach Brewer ordered his kids to clean out their lockers and sent them home after they were eliminated in the OAC semis.  Only to find that they had to scramble back because they were awarded a Pool C bid.  I guess they took advantage of their opportunity...  :P  ;)

In 2007, Wooster was the #1 seed and Marietta made a repeat trip to Appleton in 2007 as the 4 seed coming out of the Mideast.

And last year, Heide was #1 in the Mideast and Adrian made it out as the 6 seed!

And now, this year, once again, the #1 is out early as Heide has already been eliminated.  I'm beginning to wonder if earning the #1 seed is really such a good thing after all...  :-\




2006 Brewer did send his players home, Some Guys were back in Michigan already, and another was in Connecticut.  Only to get the call for the kids to scramble back...

As For Merryman he was having camplications with his medical condition all year.  He went to four or five different doctors and finally they told him had to shut it down.  It is something to do specifically with his heart. 

Its good to see Cimino on an absolute tear, he should be getting some looks with this type of season!!


Good to see Marietta in the Finals once again.. Last four times in the regional they won it.. lets make it 5

Etta Express keeps chugging along!!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 18, 2009, 10:11:50 AM
That is terrible news about Merryman. I know he has meant a lot to the BB program on the field and as a leader ( as well as in the classroom). I wish the young man well and good luck in overcoming his health problem
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 12:00:50 PM
Lineups are up.  Wooster is going with Mark Miller and Marietta is going with Chris Stewart.

Stewart is making his 3rd appearance of the regional.  He won Marietta's opener over Adrian going 6 and giving up 3 runs.  He also came on in the 9th inning of yesterday's game vs. Wooster and shut down the Scots 1-2-3.

Miller is also making his 3rd appearance of the regional.  He got the final 2 outs vs. Concordia for a save in Wooster's opener.  And he held Marietta to just one run on 3 hits over 7 innings in his only start of the regional.

Should be a dandy for the right to go the Appleton and the CWS!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2009, 12:33:42 PM
Scoreless after 2 innings.  Wooster had an opportunity in the 2nd but came up empty.  Groezinger (sp) was picked off early in the inning before a couple hits.  Left runners at 2nd and 3rd at innings end.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2009, 12:44:01 PM
Wooster dodged a big MC threat in the third.  MC had runners at 2nd and 3rd with one out after a hit batter and error.  Miller got a strikeout and groundout to escape.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 12:50:23 PM
Wooster seems to be close to breaking through for a big inning.  They sound like they're hitting the ball hard, but it's just that they're hitting it right at Marietta fielders.

Wooster has now hit into into 2 inning ending DP's on a hard liner right to the infielder and then doubling up the runner on base.

Wooster has 4 hits compared to none yet for Marietta.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 01:22:00 PM
Marietta finally got their first hit in the 6th.  And thanks to a wild pitch, and their 2nd hit of the game, the Pios have scored the games only run.

I'm not liking how many opportunities the Scots have squandered.  They have been clutch so far in this regional with getting runners home with 2 outs.  And today...  Not so much.

Middle of 6:

Marietta - 1
Wooster - 0

Wooster has the heart of the order up in the bottom of the 6th so hopefully they can do some damage like Etta's heart of the order did in their half...
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2009, 01:29:47 PM
Wooster takes a 2-1 lead thanks to a home run from Matt Pierce.  Heckuva game to listen to.  The feed from 960 has been a little choppy at times, but not too bad.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 01:22:00 PM

I'm not liking how many opportunities the Scots have squandered.  They have been clutch so far in this regional with getting runners home with 2 outs.  And today...  Not so much.

Scratch that!!!  Matt Pierce belts a 2 run shot with 2 outs to give the Scots the lead in the bottom of the 6th!!!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2009, 01:41:45 PM
Tied at 2 again.  That lead didn't last long.  MC scored on a bases loaded no out fielders choice double play ball.

The fielding error by Wooster didn't help any.  Three errors today.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2009, 01:52:18 PM
Big break for Wooster as MC infielder lost a 2 out pop fly in the sun.  Wooster leads 3-2 now.

Tough break for MC.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: countyroad on May 18, 2009, 01:52:18 PM
Big break for Wooster as MC infielder lost a 2 out pop fly in the sun.  Wooster leads 3-2 now.

Tough break for MC.

There is no such thing!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 01:59:26 PM
The winner of this game will be facing the winner of the Midwest Regional between Carthage and UW-Whitewater at the CWS.

UW-W needs to win two today over Carthage and the Warhawks lead in game one by the score of 4-2 in the 8th.

Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 02:00:46 PM
Wooster is now 3 outs away from punching their ticket to Appleton!

How about a couple of insurance runs in this half of the 8th?  8)  My nerves could sure us a couple!   :P
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2009, 02:05:41 PM
I'm betting I'll chew through my fingernails in the top half of the 9th.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 02:09:09 PM
One down and Miller hits the batter sending the tying run to first...

No indication of bullpen activity.

Ground ball to 3rd.  Wooster takes the sure out at first.

Two down and the tying run is at 2nd with Marietta's leadoff hitter up to bat!

Snyder comes through for Marietta with a 2 out base hit and we are now tied once again...  :-\

Inning over as Cimino flies out to deep right.

Walk-off anyone???
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2009, 02:14:35 PM
Go figure.

Hopefully we can keep it a tie game then get the "W" in the bottom of the 9th.

>:(
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 02:17:57 PM
Good start for Wooster in the bottom of the 9th!

Mike DeBord doubles to leadoff for the Scots!

Shane Swearingen flies out to center but the runner on 2nd tags to third.

Winning run 90 feet away with 1 down and Luke Sutton at the plate!

WILD PITCH!  GAME OVER as the Scots pile on at home plate!!!  8)

Final:

Wooster - 4
Marietta - 3

What a ballgame today between these two national powers!

Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2009, 02:18:52 PM
Please not another double play liner.....


:P
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2009, 02:24:07 PM
Scots win it!!!  Way to go!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 18, 2009, 02:26:14 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 02:17:57 PM

What a ballgame today between these two national powers!



Marietta lost 17 games this year....c'mon......they were lucky to get in....great showing though.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 02:29:16 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 18, 2009, 02:26:14 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 02:17:57 PM

What a ballgame today between these two national powers!



Marietta lost 17 games this year....c'mon......they were lucky to get in....great showing though.
I'm talking histroically!!!  ::)

BTW, the last time Marietta was 'lucky' to get in, they won it all!  They have a way to pick up their play once the post-season rolls around and their display in this regional furthers that point.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: David Collinge on May 18, 2009, 02:30:14 PM
Congratulations to the Scots!

Now the senile Ken Nemeth has five days to learn that Central Time is one hour behind, not ahead of, Eastern Time.   ::)
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 18, 2009, 02:34:05 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 02:29:16 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 18, 2009, 02:26:14 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 02:17:57 PM

What a ballgame today between these two national powers!



Marietta lost 17 games this year....c'mon......they were lucky to get in....great showing though.
I'm talking histroically!!!  ::)

BTW, the last time Marietta was 'lucky' to get in, they won it all!  They have a way to pick up their play once the post-season rolls around and their display in this regional furthers that point.

No quotations around lucky are needed. A teams good play in the postseason does not justfiy their inclusion. A team either deserves to get in or not, regardless if they win it all, or lose in the first round.

I am not a proponent of saying "They won it all, so see, they should have been in!" Teams should not be selected based on how we think they will do. That is subjective, based on past years, and not fair to the other teams. Teams must be judged on their body of work for that particular season....nothing else.

All that being said.....I am glad Wooster won. A lot of heartbreaking regionals since their last victory.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2009, 02:34:19 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on May 18, 2009, 02:30:14 PM
Congratulations to the Scots!

Now the senile Ken Nemeth has five days to learn that Central Time is one hour behind, not ahead of, Eastern Time.   ::)


You mean I don't have to set my alarm and get up REAL early?    ;D
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 02:34:50 PM
Quote from: countyroad on May 18, 2009, 02:34:19 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on May 18, 2009, 02:30:14 PM
Congratulations to the Scots!

Now the senile Ken Nemeth has five days to learn that Central Time is one hour behind, not ahead of, Eastern Time.   ::)


You mean I don't have to set my alarm and get up REAL early?    ;D
LOL!!!  :D
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 18, 2009, 02:40:00 PM
D3 baseballnut,
      Get a clue! You don't know about D3 baseball if you don't know Marietta's history. According to you RH was going to win this thing.

Congratulations to the Scots on the win and the Pios on a great tourney.

My vote for duel MVP's go to McDowell and Miller, although Karpen and Groezinger had strong showings offensively.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: David Collinge on May 18, 2009, 02:41:28 PM
Then again, maybe he's right:  for all I know, "West Konsin" might be in the Atlantic time zone.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 18, 2009, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 18, 2009, 02:40:00 PM
D3 baseballnut,
      Get a clue! You don't know about D3 baseball if you don't know Marietta's history. According to you RH was going to win this thing.

Congratulations to the Scots on the win and the Pios on a great tourney.

My vote for duel MVP's go to McDowell and Miller, although Karpen and Groezinger had strong showings offensively.

I'm sorry old scot. But i think you're wrong.

The point of my comment is to refute your implication that Marietta proved they deserved to be in the 2005 tournament simply because they won the title. EIther they deserved to be in or not, winning the title didnt make their inclusion any more or less valid. So don't put parenthesis around "lucky" as if they proved everyone wrong that year. If they played mediocre during the season to make their selection close....so be it.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 18, 2009, 02:51:48 PM
Well,
       They must have deserved a bid since the committee gave them a pool C bid. That's the point of  the season and scheduling, to get in. Once your in, your play must do the talking.  It doesn't hurt to have tradition and history on your side when there may be fence sitters on the committee.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 18, 2009, 02:57:55 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 18, 2009, 02:51:48 PM
Well,
       They must have deserved a bid since the committee gave them a pool C bid. That's the point of  the season and scheduling, to get in. Once your in, your play must do the talking.  It doesn't hurt to have tradition and history on your side when there may be fence sitters on the committee.

true....
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: old scot on May 18, 2009, 03:43:14 PM
A few thoughts on the Mid east regional,
       Wooster gets the pitching performances needed with their depleted staff to win the tourney. The offence also came through and hit the ball well. Defensively, the Scots were shaky as usual, leading the regional in errors. They need to tighten that up at the CWS to have a chance to go far.
Marietta, tough as always. They seem to take advantage of base runners and hits, scoring with minimal offense. Scoring only one run today with the bases loaded was a surprise and that probably gave the Scots a little momentum. Tough way to lose on a WP.
Heidelberg disappointed me. I thought they had the pitching depth to win. Their offence also seemed to go cold. Keep building that program and tradition. You have to fail before you can succeed.
Overall, Ohio baseball was well represented and will be in the furture.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 18, 2009, 04:21:20 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on May 18, 2009, 02:30:14 PM
Congratulations to the Scots!

Now the senile Ken Nemeth has five days to learn that Central Time is one hour behind, not ahead of, Eastern Time.   ::)

Oof, that was driving me nuts.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 18, 2009, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 18, 2009, 02:40:00 PM
D3 baseballnut,
      Get a clue! You don't know about D3 baseball if you don't know Marietta's history. According to you RH was going to win this thing.

Congratulations to the Scots on the win and the Pios on a great tourney.

My vote for duel MVP's go to McDowell and Miller, although Karpen and Groezinger had strong showings offensively.

I'm sorry old scot. But i think you're wrong.

The point of my comment is to refute your implication that Marietta proved they deserved to be in the 2005 tournament simply because they won the title. EIther they deserved to be in or not, winning the title didnt make their inclusion any more or less valid. So don't put parenthesis around "lucky" as if they proved everyone wrong that year. If they played mediocre during the season to make their selection close....so be it.

The reason I put the paranthesis around 'lucky' is because you brought it up in the first place!  You were the one that called them "lucky to get in" when you were critical of me calling Marietta a national powerhouse...

My point I was trying to make was that there was no luck involved in them making the tournament even if they had 17 losses on the year.  They also had 29 wins and they also play in one of the toughest baseball conferences in the nation!  Combine that with their history of success in the NCAA tournament and I think you will find the selection commitee more apt to choose Marietta over a team that may have a better record but faces a less competitive schedule...

BTW, you might want to give up on your predictions.  Between your guarantee of Ott getting into the tournament, to your not picking Wooster to win the regional because of their pitching to RHIT winning the regional, I think you should just give it up...  I mean, have you gotten one single prediction right?  ::)
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: INbaseballfan on May 18, 2009, 08:49:24 PM
Congratulations to Wooster on the win.  You will represent the Mideast Region well in the College World Series.

As an RHIT fan, I appreciate D3baseballnut's comment on predicting us to win (however wrong it was).  I think we would all agree that any team there (except Concordia, sorry) had the talent to win, but some programs are battle tested and some aren't.  RHIT has learned twice now that they can't fold when the big game comes down to the wire.

With every starter and every pitcher on the staff back next year (only losing 2 seniors who contributed off the bench), and a very strong freshman arm coming off Tommy John,  RHIT should be back.  And one day soon I hope they are mentioned in the same breadth with Marietta and Wooster.  The Mideast Regional should look much the same in 2010.
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 18, 2009, 09:17:03 PM
Congratulations to Wooster on winning an exciting game today and advancing to the D3 World Series!

The amazing M&M boys (4 wins) won this regional for the Scots ;D with their rubber arms that dominated even with little rest.

Justin McDowell (now 12-2) was the Most Outstanding Player of the Region because he threw 257 pitches in 17+ innings while giving up only 3 earned runs total.  132 of those pitches were thrown after only 2 days of rest!

Mark Miller (now 10-1) could have been the MOP as well because he threw 220 pitches in 16+ innings while also giving up only 3 earned runs total.  His two wins were both against a strong Marietta team and he threw 117 pitches today in a complete game victory after only 1 day of rest!

Let's hope that 4 days of rest for McDowell and Miller will be sufficient :P ...since they will no doubt pitch the first 2 games of the World Series for Wooster.

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 18, 2009, 09:49:48 PM
that's a lot of pitches...I'm sure Pettorini will ride them until they break.  Much like he did with Benkowski back in 1997, when they made the title game.

The difference is that this year, he's got TWO guys with rubber arms so to speak.

Hopefully Wooster can bring home their first National Title to Ohio...good luck Scots!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: ScotsFan on May 18, 2009, 11:43:43 PM
What an effort put forth this weekend by the apptly named M&M boys!   Congrats to McDowell on being named the regional's MOP, although, I really thought the award should have been shared with Miller.

I thought it was funny how Miller described his outing as a 9 inning save in the post-game interview!  :)

Good luck in Appleton guys!!!  I will be cheering you on from my computer!

One of these would sure look nice in the trophy case at the PEC:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncaachampionmagazine.org%2FChampionship%2520Magazine%2FPortals%2F0%2Ftrophy.jpg&hash=d823cdd7276ce4e41690075ea75a480ab980fd6f)
Title: Re: BB: Adrian Regional 2009
Post by: Gramps on May 18, 2009, 11:57:10 PM
My sincere congratulations to Wooster on winning the Mid East Regional Tournament.  Represent us well, and bring back the trophy to Ohio. Best Wishes.
Title: BB: Mid-East (Marietta) Regionals 2010
Post by: Gramps on December 30, 2009, 05:02:11 PM
FYI -  Marietta has been chosen to host the D3 Mid-East Regionals for 2010.  The dates will be May 19-23.

This info was in a new web site dedicated to Ohio Baseball: "buckeyestatebaseball.com"
Check it out, it has the latest baseball news plus other articles of interest for the baseball enthusiast, including D3 top 30 Baseball players in the Buckeye State to watch for in 2010.
Title: Re: BB: Mid-East (Marietta) Regionals 2010
Post by: ECSUalum on December 31, 2009, 11:56:50 AM
Gramps,

Great  web site on Ohio Baseball and particularly Top 30 D3 players ;D

Wish we had something like this in New England in general, CT in particular
Title: Re: BB: Mid-East (Marietta) Regionals 2010
Post by: Chris Webb on January 03, 2010, 05:59:23 PM
Buckeye State Baseball will be on hand for at least the final two days of the Mideast Regional in hoping to bring the best coverage ever of the unfolding events.

Until then, we're trying to catch up with both Marietta and NCAA officials to discuss the ins and outs of selecting a host institute for a Regional. We're just happy to not have to drive to Terre Haute or anything.
Title: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2010, 01:47:20 AM
Mideast Regional - Hosted by Marietta College at Don Schaly Stadium
http://www.marietta.edu/175/175_essentials/images/schaly_stadium_1024.jpg
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Gramps on April 23, 2010, 08:59:55 AM
Ralph - Thanks for the beautiful pix of Schaly Field.  I'd like to add  a special touch to finding the field as it is away from the school.  I have not found an address for the field but the address acrossthe street fromthe stadium, for GPS  (GARMIN,etc) is:   

         328 PIKE STREET, MARIETTA, OHIO 45750

According to Google Maps, the street that Schaly Field is on is named "Pioneer Lane", but the street name at the actual site ha been changed to Mulholland Drive.

If you follow the GPS directions, you'll see the lights over the stadium.

This will make it easier to get to the field and to better enjoy the baseball games.                   
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 24, 2010, 11:51:31 PM
Actually I cut-and-pasted this from CrashDavis' post on the 2010 Regional Sites Board.

(I have sent him a couple of karma for the post to express my appreciation.   ;)  )
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Gramps on April 25, 2010, 12:43:15 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 24, 2010, 11:51:31 PM
Actually I cut-and-pasted this from CrashDavis' post on the 2010 Regional Sites Board.

(I have sent him a couple of karma for the post to express my appreciation.   ;)  )

Than I'd like to send my appreciation to Mr. Crash Davis for the picture.  I looked all over Marietta's web site for just such a picture of the stadium to use in a compilation of the baseball fields of the OAC teams, with a GPS address for each of them.  A lot of new parents and grandparents would find it handy to just set their Garmin for the baseball field.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: HOF on April 30, 2010, 09:10:36 PM
Adrian clinches birth today with sweep of Albion.  Adrian is now co-champs for sure and needs one win to win it outright.  However, they still claimed the NCAA berth for the MIAA by beating everyone head to head that is chasing Adrian.  Congrats to the Bulldogs!
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 07, 2010, 08:36:06 AM
Second Regional Rankings in the Daily Dose


The first record is regional record, followed by overall record.

(For convenience, I have designated the highest ranked team from the conference as Pool A bid, assuming that they win the conference tourney.  All other teams are listed as Pool B or Pool C.)

Mideast Region
1. Heidelberg 27-6 30-6              OAC
2. Marietta 20-8 27-9                 OAC Pool C
3. Washington and Jefferson 24-4 27-7   Pres AC
4. Wooster 30-6 34-7                 NCAC
5. Adrian 23-10 26-10                MIAA CLINCHED
6. John Carroll 17-8 21-12            OAC Pool C
7. Franklin 14-6 22-10                 HCAC

I think these rankings are way better than the first set, but still not reflective of the Region.  Wooster's schedule is finished, but they will move up in the rankings b/c either MAR or HEID will lose 2 more games in the OAC tournament.  W&J has lost 2 in a row and STILL hasn't beaten a quality in-region opponent this year.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: HOF on May 15, 2010, 08:18:36 PM
Ralph,

Will be looking forward to seeing your thoughts on this.  I see the Mideast being the region that will get traditional Mideast teams sent out.  I see Adrian and Rose-Hulman being sent to either the Central or Midwest.  I just don't see enough teams to fill those regionals.  I haven't checked, but think Adrian or RHIT can bus to both sites and stay under the miles.  I also see other teams from the East regions that can get to Marietta, not to mention the east has several teams that should get in.

Thoughts??

Should be fun...
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Gramps on May 15, 2010, 09:11:25 PM
You can add Heidelberg to the list of Mid-East Regional teams as they have just captured the OAC Tornament with 9-0 win over Marietta today.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2010, 10:15:21 PM
My early guess for the Regional:

1- Heidelberg
2- Wooster
3- Marietta
4- Washington & Jefferson
5- Adrian
6- Thomas More

Rose-Hulman (HCAC - Pool A) will get shipped to the Augustana Regional.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2010, 10:04:23 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2010, 10:15:21 PM
My early guess for the Regional:

1- Heidelberg
2- Wooster
3- Marietta
4- Washington & Jefferson
5- Adrian
6- Thomas More

Rose-Hulman (HCAC - Pool A) will get shipped to the Augustana Regional.

Is W&J a pretty solid Pool C candidate?  My own personal opinion on the Prez is that they will not be sleeping easy wating to see if they are in or not.

At least they should finally fall in the regional rankings because of their losses to TMC in the finals of the PAC tournament...
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2010, 11:08:05 AM
^^^ W&J will most likely recieve an at-large bid based on how the process works.

Each region has a committee member who is present on the "call." Each region puts their top at-large team "on the table" to be voted for.  Once a team is given a pool C bid, then the next best at-large team from that Region goes "on the table."  Teams stay on the table until they are given a bid.  For example: a region could have some strong at-large teams and get a few of them in, while another region may only have one strong team to consider, or none at all.  Technically, a region could have a team "on the table" throughout the whole process, and they may still be there when things end.

From the Mideast, Marietta will be team number 1 on the table.  Once they get their Pool C bid, W&J will be next on the table.  When compared with others from around the country, their resume (in-region winning %, and in-region SOS) will get them a Pool C bid.

Oh, and the Regional Rankings that have been released the last few weeks don't determine who's in or out for the tournament; or how each Regional will be ranked.  That is all done on the "call" this evening.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 17, 2010, 08:19:39 AM
Hosted by Marietta College, Marietta, Ohio
1. Heidelberg (37-6)
2. Wooster (34-7)
3. Marietta (32-11)
4. Washington and Jefferson (32-10)
5. Adrian (29-11)
6. Thomas More (31-14)
7. Penn State-Behrend (29-14)


Let the fun begin!!!!  (these look awfully similar to my predictions...except they snuck PS-Behrend in last minute) :)
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: HeyScots on May 17, 2010, 09:08:45 AM
So how does this 7 team regional work...does heidelberg get a bye?
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 17, 2010, 09:52:49 AM
Here's a link for the tournament:

Mideast Regional Tournament  (http://pioneers.marietta.edu/index.aspx?path=mideastregional)

Not much to see there yet.  They don't even have a schedule of games up yet so we can see exactly how this BS 7 team format is supposed to work?!
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: HeyScots on May 17, 2010, 10:34:40 AM
So Marietta has a preview of the first day of the tournament atleast and it says heidelberg will play the winner of the 4/5 game at 8pm on wednesday night.  So i guess that counts as a bye but will still have to use their #1 on the first day
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 17, 2010, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: HeyScots on May 17, 2010, 10:34:40 AM
So Marietta has a preview of the first day of the tournament atleast and it says heidelberg will play the winner of the 4/5 game at 8pm on wednesday night.  So i guess that counts as a bye but will still have to use their #1 on the first day

The thing I don't like is that Heide will more than likely not have to see anyone's #1 fresh.  While all 6 other teams play in the first 3 games and all likely throwing their #1's, Heide is sitting and waiting to face someone's #2.  Heck, Heide could even opt to save their #1 seeing as how their 1st opponent on Wednesday will be playing their 2nd game of the day and will have already, in all likelihood spent their #1 in game 1...  :-\
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 17, 2010, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: HeyScots on May 17, 2010, 10:34:40 AM
So Marietta has a preview of the first day of the tournament atleast and it says heidelberg will play the winner of the 4/5 game at 8pm on wednesday night.  So i guess that counts as a bye but will still have to use their #1 on the first day

From what I gathered from the thread on the national topics the issues are:

1) The #1 seed effectively gets a bye into the winners bracket since their 1st game is the 4/5 winner.
2) If the 1 seed wins that game they don't play again until Friday at noon, so they get a full day off.
3) If they win their 2nd game Friday they only need one more win Saturday to win the regional.

In the Berg's case this could prove big because that allows Palm to use Andy Lowe more liberally out of the pen, especially if there's a potential off day in there.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: HeyScots on May 17, 2010, 01:51:23 PM
The NCAA committee didnt really think this through at all it seems like.  How could they possibly allow a team to only win 3 games to win the regional...just doesnt make any sense
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: old scot on May 17, 2010, 07:16:59 PM
It seems like everything is stacked in favor of the Berg. I just don't see it since Woo beat the them. On the other hand, the Scots would have helped themselves toward a No.1 seed by beating the Fish and JCU, out of the OAC.
Certainly, the pitching match-ups favor the Student Princes but, you have to win it on the field. I think the Scots can suck it up and get the job done!!!!! I think their pitching depth is better than anyone else in the Mid-East. Hopefully, the offense will show up and support them.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 17, 2010, 10:31:16 PM
A question for the Wooster gents (and ladies)...do you stick with your normal rotation or do you hold McDowell back for the potential match up with Etta in the 2nd game?  I think with Uhl pitching for TMC that Etta has no choice but to throw Blaski against them.  My personal opinion is to stick with the rotation, but I was curious what everyone else thinks.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 17, 2010, 10:42:35 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 17, 2010, 10:31:16 PM
A question for the Wooster gents (and ladies)...do you stick with your normal rotation or do you hold McDowell back for the potential match up with Etta in the 2nd game?  I think with Uhl pitching for TMC that Etta has no choice but to throw Blaski against them.  My personal opinion is to stick with the rotation, but I was curious what everyone else thinks.

good question...I've seen it done both ways, and I've seen it work & not work.  Personally, I'd play for the "big picture" and use McDowell on day one, with the idea that you'll use him AGAIN on Saturday.  If you hold him for Thurs, then he won't be available for the rest of the tournament.

My theory is always throw your top guy in a tournament....unless he can't come back on short rest; then you could think about using someone with a better recovery time as long as your confident that you can win with that pitcher.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: HeyScots on May 17, 2010, 10:55:41 PM
Obviously Mcdowell has been named the Ace ever since midway through last year, but Barnes is 100% equally as good and has actually been pitching slightly better then Mcdowell down the stretch.  This isnt that big of question since both of these guys can easily be the #1 guy.  Im sure McDowell will throw game 1 but then another #1 guy in Barnes will go in game 2
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 18, 2010, 08:31:16 AM
I think Wooster obviously has the pitching depth at the top of the rotation.....my only question with them (and the reason I think HEID wil have a great shot to make it to Appleton), is whether or not they will be able to wipe the cobwebs off early enough in the tournament.  It's been a long time since they've been in an important game, while the others were all playing in Conference title games this past Saturday/Sunday (except Adrian....which I see in the same situation).
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: HeyScots on May 18, 2010, 09:20:16 AM
 I agree with that mideastfan...Knowing coach p tho, wooster wont have any trouble getting up for these games and I kow they have been keeping sharp over the past couple weeks.  I agree with them not having played a meaningful game in awhile but when its game time, no doubt they will be ready to go.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: countyroad on May 18, 2010, 10:23:47 AM
Wooster has been scrimmaging themselves the past couple weeks.  While that's not the same as playing in a real game, it's some pretty good competition in facing themselves.

It's gonna be fun to see who steps up, from ALL the teams in this regional.  There should be some pretty good baseball being played.  Maybe I can talk the wife in to heading down Saturday or Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 18, 2010, 11:58:19 AM
Quote from: countyroad on May 18, 2010, 10:23:47 AM
Wooster has been scrimmaging themselves the past couple weeks.  While that's not the same as playing in a real game, it's some pretty good competition in facing themselves.

It's gonna be fun to see who steps up, from ALL the teams in this regional.  There should be some pretty good baseball being played.  Maybe I can talk the wife in to heading down Saturday or Sunday.

Better make it Saturday...no games Sunday unless it rains.  Just a heads up.  I figured the better half wouldn't be pleased if she agreed to go Sunday and you got there and there were no games!   ;D  Or maybe she actually WOULD be pleased...
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 18, 2010, 12:01:28 PM
Quote from: countyroad on May 18, 2010, 10:23:47 AM
Wooster has been scrimmaging themselves the past couple weeks.  While that's not the same as playing in a real game, it's some pretty good competition in facing themselves.

It's gonna be fun to see who steps up, from ALL the teams in this regional.  There should be some pretty good baseball being played.  Maybe I can talk the wife in to heading down Saturday or Sunday.

I'm interested to see what the "other" teams do.  I think we are all in agreement that the OAC/NCAC teams should do well, but I have no idea what to expect from teams like TMC, PSB, etc.  It looks like TMC has a really good pitcher (statistically at least).
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Gramps on May 18, 2010, 12:26:38 PM
I just love this time of the season, tournament time.  It brings out the best in the home team fan. They have the best advice for the coaches, they can replay past game situations; they can see the best scenarios; but it'll  still come down to actual play on the field. It is who is playing the best at that particular moment. I'm sure that we have all seen struggling pitchers that come up and pitch the game of their life. This is what crunch time is all about, and this is what the players and the fans are looking for,  the very best that these young men can and will put out for their respective teams. It is now enough speculation and Wed. morning at 9:30AM the games will began and Sat. at approx. 2:30-3:00PM, the MID-EAST REGION CHAMPION FOR 2010 will be crowned and will be our representative for THE WORLD SERIES.  And we'll back them, cause that's how the game is played.

SO, CHEER FOR YOUR TEAM, HAVE FUN, AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN MARIETTA.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: macdade77 on May 18, 2010, 01:00:13 PM
Wooster has four top line starters with little discernible difference except for .5% in ERA! Stidham has been outstanding as the 5th starter as has White. Hall and Johnson can also be good coming out of the pen. My concern is how the lay off will affect Woo's offense which was downright scary the last month or so. McDowell has pitched well in more big games than anybody in America in the last year. This team is on a mission after coming so close in Appleton last May. They are my pick to win it all notwithstanding the NCAA's efforts to make it easy for Heidelberg. Woo had to win 4 last year to capture a 6 team Regional even had they stayed undefeated. Now, HC can win it all in a 7 team field by going 3-0!!!!!! Something wrong with this picture??????? I'm not whining but this would seem unfair to an impartial observer.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 18, 2010, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: HeyScots on May 17, 2010, 10:34:40 AM
So Marietta has a preview of the first day of the tournament atleast and it says heidelberg will play the winner of the 4/5 game at 8pm on wednesday night.  So i guess that counts as a bye but will still have to use their #1 on the first day

http://www.ncaa.com/graphics/D3Baseball/Marietta.pdf
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 18, 2010, 07:30:22 PM
There will be a Mideast regional live chat from 8-10 pm tonight at BuckeyeStateBaseball.com.  The first hour will be the BSB guys with D3baseball.com contributor Dave Kisor joining in at 9pm to bring his insight.  Stop by if you have a minute.

BuckeyeStateBaseball.com (http://buckeyestatebaseball.com/)

p.s. Sorry for the late notice!

Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 19, 2010, 10:16:20 AM
Is there a delay to the start of Game 1?  Or is the livestats just not working...  :-\

EDIT:

Nevermind, the livestats are up and running now.   :)
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 19, 2010, 01:39:50 PM
Berg will face Adrian tonight after they beat W&J 9-7 in 10 innings this morning.

Marietta leads TMC 2-1 after 1. 
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 19, 2010, 05:11:43 PM
Marietta upset by TMC 4-3 in 10.

Interestingly, Barnes gets the start for the Scots in Game one and Wooster trails after one, 1-0.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 19, 2010, 08:05:15 PM
PS-B really?!?!?!?!? They combined to go 1-5 in games against this year's Mideast Regional teams.

Who would've thought a Freshman from a school like PS-B would be throwing this well against Wooster....not me.

middle of 7 (rain)
PSB - 8
WOO - 4
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 19, 2010, 09:07:31 PM
Well, the Scots plate 3 in the bottom of the 9th and for the 3rd game in a row today, we're going extras!
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 19, 2010, 09:11:10 PM
^^^^ great comeback!!  PSB helped them out with a huge error on a potential game ending DP ball up the middle, and a wierd play by the pitcher.

But that's what great teams do, take advantage of mistakes, and win games like this.  Wooster can't afford to fall into the losers bracket with the advantage that HEID already has in this 7-team screwed up bracket.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 19, 2010, 09:21:33 PM
PSB scores 2 with 2-outs on a strange play...what was the CF thinking holding onto the ball after trapping it, and allowing a runner to score all the way from 1st???

middle of 10
PSB - 10
WOO - 8
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 19, 2010, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 19, 2010, 09:21:33 PM
PSB scores 2 with 2-outs on a strange play...what was the CF thinking holding onto the ball after trapping it, and allowing a runner to score all the way from 1st???
middle of 10
PSB - 10
WOO - 8

Good question mideastfan?!   ???

If Wooster loses this game, they can look no further than the fact that they couldn't get out of innings.  I don't know how PSB's first run came across in the 1st, but since then, all 9 of PSB's runs have come across with 2 outs.   :o  That is a killer!
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 19, 2010, 09:27:50 PM
^^^ and all the leadoff runners to reach base each inning...most of which were walks.  those will kill ya.

aint over yet though!!  top of the order ready to get another crack at it!!!!
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 19, 2010, 09:38:22 PM
Wooster had the runners on, but couldn't capitalize.

FINAL
PSB - 10
WOO - 8

this bracket is so messed up.   WOO will play MAR tomorrow, and if one of them wants to win the Regional they must win SIX games over the next 3 days.

I'd say the winner of the HEID/ADRIAN game is sitting pretty right now. :(
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 19, 2010, 09:47:16 PM
^^^^ ^
You're right.  The walks by Wooster pitching killed the Scots as well!

Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 19, 2010, 09:38:22 PM

I'd say the winner of the HEID/ADRIAN game is sitting pretty right now. :(

As Woo's play by play guy mentioned, if you would have told me at the start of today that Wooster and Marietta would be playing an elimination game tomorrow I probably would have asked what you were smoking.

Heide is in a GOLDEN position right now if they can find a way to beat a team playing their 2nd game of the day.  A win for Heide means they are just 2 wins from punching their tickets to Appleton.  Meanwhile, for Marietta and Wooster, a win for either of them tomorrow means they still need 5 more wins to get to Appleton in 3 days?!   :-\
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 20, 2010, 08:16:39 AM
let's recap...

Day one:
- THREE extra inning upsets.
- MAR and WOO are now in the loser's bracket
- Penn State-Behrend of all teams wins their 1st ever regional game
- FOG rolls into town late last night to suspend the HEID/ADRIAN game until this morning.

yeah, that about wraps it up...what a crazy Mideast Regional so far!!! :) lol

Oh yeah, and there is a ton of rain in the forecast for the next few days in Marietta....we may be in for a longgggg weekend!
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: countyroad on May 20, 2010, 08:18:21 AM
PSB sure put Wooster in a hole to start the regional.  Wooster came out of the winner's bracket last year at the World Series and and still lost so maybe they can come out of the losers bracket at this year's regional and win.  The odds are obviously not in their favor.  
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 20, 2010, 01:57:43 PM
Berg comes back to beat Adrian 9-8.

Etta leads Woo 3-0 in the 7th.  Gasser has allowed only 2 hits so far.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 20, 2010, 02:29:42 PM
Etta has opened up a 6-0 lead over Woo heading to the bottom of the 8th.  The Scots really need to get something going quickly.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 20, 2010, 02:58:19 PM
6-0 Final.  Marietta moves on and Wooster is eliminated.  Unbelievable turn of events.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: old scot on May 20, 2010, 03:11:16 PM
It looks like the Scots season is coming to a close. They are down 6-0 to the Pios in the top of the 9th.

Should I be disapointed, yes. Should I be surprised, no. Woo has lost games this year to teams with less talent. The Scots never developed the killer instinct this season.

I really have a problem with the 2 and a half week layoff between the NCAC tourney and the Regionals. Baseball is a game that needs to be played day in and day out to be consistant. I think it is difficult to layoff for that amount of time, only to come back and expect to play at your peak performance.

Congrat's to the Scots seniors. You have had a wonderful 4 years at Wooster and have given all Scots fans a reason to be proud. Anyone who has put on a uniform can relate to the highs and lows you have experienced. No matter how young or old, we will always be "The Pride of the Hill".  The uniform keeps us connected.

Thank you to the seniors for ypur dedication and good luck on all your furture endevors. Go Scots!!!
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 20, 2010, 05:05:28 PM
Gasser was just remarkable today....Wooster didn't have an answer.  McDowell was very good as well, he hurt himself though with the bad pickoff throws to 1st.

Coach P took a little shot at the competition level of the NCAC after the game...

"We thought it was going to be a tight game. We didn't think there'd be a lot of runs scored. ... Then they got some timely hits and that's to their credit," said Wooster coach Tim Pettorini. "(Wooster-Marietta) is a pretty fun game to play most of the time. It's a great rivalry. One of the problems we have is ... when you play some of the league games that we have to play you are not being challenged as much, so the hitters get a false sense of security."


ouch.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 20, 2010, 05:07:38 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 20, 2010, 03:11:16 PM
It looks like the Scots season is coming to a close. They are down 6-0 to the Pios in the top of the 9th.

Should I be disapointed, yes. Should I be surprised, no. Woo has lost games this year to teams with less talent. The Scots never developed the killer instinct this season.

I really have a problem with the 2 and a half week layoff between the NCAC tourney and the Regionals. Baseball is a game that needs to be played day in and day out to be consistant. I think it is difficult to layoff for that amount of time, only to come back and expect to play at your peak performance.

Congrat's to the Scots seniors. You have had a wonderful 4 years at Wooster and have given all Scots fans a reason to be proud. Anyone who has put on a uniform can relate to the highs and lows you have experienced. No matter how young or old, we will always be "The Pride of the Hill".  The uniform keeps us connected.

Thank you to the seniors for ypur dedication and good luck on all your furture endevors. Go Scots!!!

Well said all around old scot.  I agree with you about the layoff.  Wooster seemed to really be firing on all cylanders in the last couple of weeks of the season.  And for the Scots to have to basically shut it down for more than 2 weeks only to come back and expect to pick up where they left off against the best competition they've seen all season is just hard to do.  Someone dropped the ball by not scheduling at least a couple of meaningful games in the layoff period to keep the team sharp.  And obviously intersquad games don't cut it.

I also echo the congrats to the senior class.  They have accomplished a lot and have much to be proud of despite not reaching all of their goals they set out to accomplish this season.  There are a lot of quality young men leaving this team.  It's going to be very interesting to see who steps up to fill the shoes of all of the seniors departing this team next year.  I know that Wooster usually is in the business of 're-loading' as opposed to 're-building' but there is a lot of 're-loading' that needs to go on for the Scots looking ahead to next year!
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 20, 2010, 05:30:54 PM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 20, 2010, 05:05:28 PMCoach P took a little shot at the competition level of the NCAC after the game...

"We thought it was going to be a tight game. We didn't think there'd be a lot of runs scored. ... Then they got some timely hits and that's to their credit," said Wooster coach Tim Pettorini. "(Wooster-Marietta) is a pretty fun game to play most of the time. It's a great rivalry. One of the problems we have is ... when you play some of the league games that we have to play you are not being challenged as much, so the hitters get a false sense of security."

ouch.

I think that switching to the DH w/ everyone format vs. 4 game sets w/ the East will help them next year.  While there are no teams of their caliber in the NCAC today there are far more competitive teams in the West.  DH's with Denison, OWU, Wabash, etc. will force them to show up almost every weekend.  They won't be able to coast through a 4 game series w/ Hiram which will help them in the long run.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 20, 2010, 09:50:33 PM
MARIETTA brought the bats tonight, and they'll need to keep them going over the next few days.  They lead W&J 11-1 in the 8th, and look to send another team home & stay alive in the loser's bracket.

The pitching has been GREAT all day; Levens was wonderfull tonight following Gasser's masterfull performance this afternoon.  The 2 great starts have given MC the opportunity to save a few arms heading into the weekend.  With rain in the forecast the next few days, we could be looking at refreshed pitching staffs from all remaining teams this weekend.

Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: macdade77 on May 21, 2010, 02:32:00 PM
There is no question that the 19 day layoff hurt the Scots. Intrasquad games simply can't replace playing quality opponents. And with the latter, lies the rub. Playing Hiram, and Oberlin provides no preparation for post season play. Further, games with Wabash and Denison in the NCAC tourney didn't prepare us for the pitching we saw against Marietta. The boys played flat and uninspired baseball at the MER. They just weren't hungry enough after going all the way to Appleton last year. They thought they were good enough to get by on pure talent and didn't play with any fire or passion. Finally, in hindsight, Coach P shouldn't have changed the pitching rotation. Is there anyone on here who attended both Wooster games, who doesn't think that McDowell would not have beaten PSU-Behrend with his outing against MC??? Wooster returns all of it's pitching staff except for the always solid Matt DeGrand and Tanner Hall. Good luck at Appleton to whoever emerges from the MER!!
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: deloar on May 21, 2010, 03:31:49 PM
Just listened to the Heidelberg vs PSU-B game.  Was concerned that HU was not in the groove with the Adrian game, but sounds like they got warmed up in this game.  9-2.  They clearly have the easier path right now.  My hunch is that Marietta will be their opposition in the championship round and it could just help that Marietta will have had to play more games...unless the rains come as predicted.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 21, 2010, 04:51:18 PM
Marietta has continued where they left off last night, the bats are going early....all these games in the loser's bracket could give MAR some confidence at the plate with plenty of at-bats.  

The downside could be the amount of innings the pitching staff will work; but if the offense can keep rolling, the staff will be able to juggle those innings without exhausting certain guys for the remainder of the tournament.

Same could be said for TMC. 

top of 3rd
MAR - 4
TMC - 3

Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: old scot on May 21, 2010, 08:55:22 PM
I'm looking for Etta to dispatch PSUB tonight and face the the Berg for the regional berth.

I would hope the Pio's pitching is deep enough to get the win tonight and challenge the SP's tomorrow.
I really hate to choose a side but, I'm pulling for Etta. I feel they will have to fight their way to the championship, where the Berg was given a gift being a 1 seed and only having to win 3 games to win the region.

I wish all the remaining teams good luck and may all your balls be fair.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: old scot on May 21, 2010, 09:11:39 PM
Just reviewed the live stats for Etta and PSUB, no score in the bottom of the 4th.

Heavy hitting DH, Chris Beatty, is not in the lineup for the Pios? Is he injured?
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 21, 2010, 10:12:28 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 21, 2010, 09:11:39 PM
Just reviewed the live stats for Etta and PSUB, no score in the bottom of the 4th.

Heavy hitting DH, Chris Beatty, is not in the lineup for the Pios? Is he injured?

Beatty has been out of the lineup since yesterday afternoon's game vs W&J.  He's been struggling at the plate the last 10 games or so, and I guess Brewer felt it was time to give Hopper a chance.  It could be something else though; I'm just not sure.

Beatty tore it up for the first 1/2 of the year, but has been inconsistent lately.

MAR just stranded runners on 2nd & 3rd...needed at least one in that situation.


Both tsarting pitchers have been tremendous so far, but MAR hasn't been able to capitalize on a few scoring chances.

top of 8th
PSB - 1
MAR - 0
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 21, 2010, 10:48:38 PM
first off...the kid from PS-B has thrown the game of his life...what a starting performance from a guy who is their big time reliever! He has thrown 145 pitches thru 9 innings, and is still in the game...unreal!

Beatty got in the game as a pinch hitter in the 9th with 2 outs...and doubled.  He was then lifted for a pinch runner, who then scored on a fielding error by the SS off the bat of Snyder, to tie the game 1-1.  

wow....that last out is the oughest one.

- Williams k's the side in the 10th
- in the MAR 10th...becker singles, thompson tried to sac bunt but the pitcher made an error (fielding), 1st & 2nd no outs, jones tried to sac bunt as well & the pitcher made another error (throwing), alowing the winning run to score.

defense killed PSB; experience once again helped MAR.

bottom of 10th
PSB - 1
MAR - 2
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 22, 2010, 12:43:20 AM
Wow, sounds like PSB got VERY tight defensively.  That's a tough way to give up the lead and lose.  Not that I'm complaining...all Ohio final!
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 22, 2010, 09:49:03 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 22, 2010, 12:43:20 AM
Wow, sounds like PSB got VERY tight defensively.  That's a tough way to give up the lead and lose.  Not that I'm complaining...all Ohio final!

yep...those last outs are the toughest, especially when you haven't "been there" before.  You have to feel for the PSB pitcher; he threw the game of his life, but couldn't quite make the plays in the 10th. 

He, and his teammates, have nothing to hang their heads about though, they played great this tournament and should be proud!
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: AlleyCat on May 22, 2010, 10:18:09 AM
How is it that Heidelberg only has to win 3 games to win a 7 team regional? I thought 7 team regionals require 4 wins.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 22, 2010, 11:29:11 AM
Quote from: AlleyCat on May 22, 2010, 10:18:09 AM
How is it that Heidelberg only has to win 3 games to win a 7 team regional? I thought 7 team regionals require 4 wins.

it used to be...the NCAA switched the format from the older 7-team bracket.

Heidelberg earned this huge advantage of being the only #1 seed in a 7-team bracket.  They could be the only team advancing to the World Series by winning 3 regional games, instead of 4.

If any team in the country deserved it though, it would be Johns Hopkins or Heidelberg.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: old scot on May 22, 2010, 02:23:04 PM
Final, Berg 6 Etta 2. Congrats to Wooster grad and Berg head coach Matt Palm on their first Regional championship. The Student Princes should represent the Mid East and Ohio baseball well in the CWS. Good luck.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Gramps on May 23, 2010, 06:57:16 AM
All-Tournament Team
Thomas Moreā€”Nick Zeiser, catcher
Adrianā€”Alex Cowart, outfield
Penn State-Behrendā€”Jonathan Gray, outfield; Ryan Zamiskie, pitcher
Mariettaā€”Brian Gasser, pitcher; John Snyder, outfield; Casey Levens, utility
Heidelbergā€”Alex Monroe, outfield; Jason Lash, shortstop; Steve Decker, catcher; Andy Lowe, pitcher
Most Outstanding Playerā€”Andy Lowe, Heidelberg

Congrats to the Berg on winning the Mid-East Regional.  They will be a great representative team at the World Series.
Also, a tip of Gramp's hat to all of the ball players who made the All Tournament Team.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: ScotsFan on May 23, 2010, 09:50:50 AM
Congrats to Heide on their first ever Regional Championship and trip to the CWS!  Good luck to the SP's in Wisconsin!  How many wins in a row is that now for Heide?  I know they swept their way to the OAC tournament and now the Mid East Regional.  And they had won several games to finish out the regular season as well.  And the way they are winning some of these games makes me wonder if it just isn't Heide's year...

And I totally agree with mideastfan in that Heide EARNED that #1 seed.  The only other team that could make the argument that Heide could make was Hopkins.  The SP's got the job done on the field and turned in a great regular season and they were rewarded.  You can't fault the SP's for the NCAA's shortcomings in changing the format!

Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: countyroad on May 24, 2010, 09:47:03 AM
Good luck to Heidelberge in Wisconsin.  Hopefully they keep it going and bring home the hardware. 
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 24, 2010, 10:55:09 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on May 23, 2010, 09:50:50 AM
Congrats to Heide on their first ever Regional Championship and trip to the CWS!  Good luck to the SP's in Wisconsin!  How many wins in a row is that now for Heide?  I know they swept their way to the OAC tournament and now the Mid East Regional.  And they had won several games to finish out the regular season as well.  And the way they are winning some of these games makes me wonder if it just isn't Heide's year...

And I totally agree with mideastfan in that Heide EARNED that #1 seed.  The only other team that could make the argument that Heide could make was Hopkins.  The SP's got the job done on the field and turned in a great regular season and they were rewarded.  You can't fault the SP's for the NCAA's shortcomings in changing the format!



I believe they're riding a 17 game winning streak right now.  Hopefully they can continue it in Appleton.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: Gramps on May 25, 2010, 12:06:18 AM
The All Mid-East Region  Team was announced this afternoon and Heidelberg placed EIGHT players on the squad.
Earning 1st team honors are;
Steve Decker, Willie Brechun, Jason Lash, Ricardo Lizcano, Andy Lowe, Ethan Holt
2nd team:
Gar Keen
Honorable Mention:
Brian  Koehl

Congratulations to all of the honorees.
Title: Re: BB: 2010 Marietta (Mideast) Regional
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 25, 2010, 08:10:33 AM
Quote from: Gramps on May 25, 2010, 12:06:18 AM
The All Mid-East Region  Team was announced this afternoon and Heidelberg placed EIGHT players on the squad.
Earning 1st team honors are;
Steve Decker, Willie Brechun, Jason Lash, Ricardo Lizcano, Andy Lowe, Ethan Holt
2nd team:
Gar Keen
Honorable Mention:
Brian  Koehl

Congratulations to all of the honorees.

congrats....those First Team members will now be eligible for ABCA All-American consideration. 
Title: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Gramps on November 13, 2010, 01:32:32 AM
Congratulations to Marietta for being selected the site of the 2011 Mid-East Regional Tournament.  They were excellent hosts for the 2010 Tournament.
Title: 2011 Mid-East Regional
Post by: Gramps on November 13, 2010, 01:34:49 AM
Congratulations to Marietta for being selected the site of the 2011 Mid-East Regional Tournament.  They were excellent hosts for the 2010 Tournament.
Title: Re: 2011 Mid-East Regional
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 14, 2010, 11:23:00 AM
The NCAA should announce all 2011 DIII Baseball Regional sites at the same time ? Why did they choose this way of not announcing all sites at the same time ?

At the DI level sites are chosen among the highest seeded teams ?

At the DIII level many teams do not have sites that meet the NCAA requirements for hosting like lights and enclosed press box, and so the majority of teams never put in bids. Also the expense, time and resources to host a regional is another consideration.

Just a few years back the NCAA DIII Regional Baseball sites were not announced before the season. Also there have been instances where locations have been changed at the last minute due to forecasted weather issues.
Title: Re: 2011 Mid-East Regional
Post by: Piobark on November 14, 2010, 11:27:29 AM
I'd actually like to see them go back to selecting during the season.

I would think that mid April would be a good time frame - long enough to see which teams are decent and likely to make the playoffs. Obviously you could end up with hosts not playing - but the chances would be decreased if they waited until April.

More teams might be willing to host if they knew that they were likely to be playing at home. Tough sell otherwise - who wants the cost and hassle of hosting an event that occurs after the school year is over and if your team has already gone home...
Title: Re: 2011 Mid-East Regional
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on November 14, 2010, 11:35:34 AM
Quote from: Piobark on November 14, 2010, 11:27:29 AM
I'd actually like to see them go back to selecting during the season.

I would think that mid April would be a good time frame - long enough to see which teams are decent and likely to make the playoffs. Obviously you could end up with hosts not playing - but the chances would be decreased if they waited until April.

More teams might be willing to host if they knew that they were likely to be playing at home. Tough sell otherwise - who wants the cost and hassle of hosting an event that occurs after the school year is over and if your team has already gone home...

I personally like the old method which would follow the D1 model. Location of sites must be teams that are in the playoff and should be hosted by the highest seeded teams. I know in the West the problem this caused was Chapman was the host in 9 of 10 years at one time. People complained that is why Chapman made it to Appleton every year BUT Chapman did win regionals at Abileine, TX(McMurry) and McMinnville, OR(Linfield).  I know the problem is that many teams do not have sites that can be used to host regionals...
Title: Re: 2011 Mid-East Regional
Post by: Piobark on November 14, 2010, 03:46:55 PM
I'd like that even more... perhaps some kind of pre-qualification during the season to make sure that the school is willing to host and that the facilities are at the right level. To keep it moving around, perhaps you can't host three years in a row?
Title: Re: 2011 Mid-East Regional
Post by: DelawareCityMan on February 10, 2011, 09:20:22 AM
I agree with the NCAA holding off to at least say April 1st to announce the Regional Sites.  That would give a little bit better idea of who is playing well and who possibly may be involved in the Regional.  Even here in the fridged north, enough ball would be played for a better decision.  It would be nice for the location to be spread around as there is some really good baseball played in this Region.  Also, with most of the schools being located in smaller towns, it can give a decent shot to the local economy to be able to get to host a Regional every so often.  Maybe communities would be more willing to donate money for improvements to the facilities of their local school if they knew that somewhere down the road a Regional was coming...
Title: Re: 2011 Mid-East Regional
Post by: macdade77 on February 14, 2011, 03:27:45 PM
The discerning criteria is that a host must have a lighted diamond in order to secure a Regional tourney. Said requirement eliminates many schools right away.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 08, 2011, 09:08:24 AM
Who is in who is out? 

For he sake of discussion until the seeds are awarded next Sunday....who do you think makes it and who gets left on the outside looking in?

1 marietta (pool a or pool c)
2 'Berg (pool a or pool c)
3 Case Western Reserve (pool b or pool c)
4 Adrian (pool a - already clinched)
6 Manchester (pool a hcac)
7 Thomas More (pool a PrAC)
8 Wabash (pool a NCAC clinched).

Unless someone gets shipped out (entirely possible) I see this as an 8 team field, due in part to the success of Case this year. 
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 08, 2011, 09:15:07 AM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 08, 2011, 09:08:24 AM
Who is in who is out? 

For he sake of discussion until the seeds are awarded next Sunday....who do you think makes it and who gets left on the outside looking in?

1 marietta (pool a or pool c)
2 'Berg (pool a or pool c)
3 Case Western Reserve (pool b or pool c)
4 Adrian (pool a - already clinched)
6 Manchester (pool a hcac)
7 Thomas More (pool a PrAC)
8 Wabash (pool a NCAC clinched).

Unless someone gets shipped out (entirely possible) I see this as an 8 team field, due in part to the success of Case this year. 
I agree with the 8 teams in the field.  My only caveat is that the four 6-team brackets must go to the West, to the South if played at Rhodes, the Midwest and the Central, due to geographical constraints and proximity.

I would not be surprised to see the 3 lower (and "western") picks moved to a bracket someplace farther west.

I think that conveniently, moving the South Regional to another venue this season is a wise thing to do.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 08, 2011, 10:52:08 AM
Except I can't count. There are only 7 teams on my list.  ???

An 8 team field leaves room for one more at large or an out of region team to be sent here (like ps beherend was last year). Rumblings of LaRoche have come about. But do not know.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 08, 2011, 12:25:06 PM
 :D :D :D  My bad!

I overlooked #5!   :D   :o   ::)

You have a good point.  Having the 7-team bracket in the Mideast may be a good place to have it, so the national committee can fill brackets that are geographically farther west, if the South Regional is played in Millington, TN.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 09, 2011, 10:46:00 AM
OAC Tournament:  Marietta, Heidelberg, Mount Union and John Carroll
HCAC Tournament:  Manchester, Franklin, Rose Hulman, Anderson
PrAC Tournament:  Thomas More, Washington and Jefferson, Grove City and Westminster.

MIAA: Adrian (no tourney)
NCAC: Wabash (Tourney Champ)
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 09, 2011, 06:35:42 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 09, 2011, 10:46:00 AM
OAC Tournament:  Marietta, Heidelberg, Mount Union and John Carroll
HCAC Tournament:  Manchester, Franklin, Rose Hulman, Anderson
PrAC Tournament:  Thomas More, Washington and Jefferson, Grove City and Westminster.

MIAA: Adrian (no tourney)
NCAC: Wabash (Tourney Champ)

Franklin, Rose-Hulman and Thomas More would be within 500 miles of Millington, TN. So is Wabash.

I have a feeling there are going to be some PA and VA/MD schools in Marietta.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2011, 06:39:06 PM
And sometimes, a team wants to take its chances against teams from another region!

It kinda makes the tournament "more national" in feel.

The West had 2 members in Wisconsin in the ?2007? tourney with Chapman and Linfield.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 10, 2011, 07:59:58 AM
Curious to know...What does the NCAA use as criteria for sending a team to a differen region. 

Is it a lower rated team, strictly based on geography for travel purposes?  Does anyone really know?
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 10, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 10, 2011, 07:59:58 AM
Curious to know...What does the NCAA use as criteria for sending a team to a differen region. 

Is it a lower rated team, strictly based on geography for travel purposes?  Does anyone really know?
$$$$$$ - All about the money with the NCAA

Example in recent years is Linfield going to Central Region. It had to Fly so going to the Central Region was almost the same distance as the West Regional for them in 2007.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: OshDude on May 10, 2011, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 10, 2011, 07:59:58 AM
Curious to know...What does the NCAA use as criteria for sending a team to a differen region.  

Is it a lower rated team, strictly based on geography for travel purposes?  Does anyone really know?
From the 2011 Handbook. In essence, if you don't host and are within 500 miles of other sites, you could move. A regional in Millington could shake up things a bit.

Once automatic qualifiers are identified and the Pools B and C teams are selected, the following guidelines should be followed:
ā€¢ Once selected, teams will be grouped in clusters according to natural geographic proximity. Teams will then be paired according to geographic proximity. A team may be moved to numerically balance the bracket if geographic proximity is maintained. Teams should be paired and eligible sites should be selected according to geographic proximity (within 500 miles).
ā€¢ Teams may be seeded on a regional basis using the regional selection criteria. However, geographic proximity takes precedence over seeding.
ā€¢ Teams from the same conference do not have to play one another in the first round as long as geographic proximity is maintained.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 10, 2011, 03:09:33 PM
Thanks OshDude.  Good stuff...

More or less....If there is another regional within 500 miles of your school, you may have a really long bus ride to make things work.

Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 11, 2011, 02:49:50 PM
Interesting discussion going on in the South Region board http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7334.90 (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7334.90)

What's interesting is that the location for the South Regional is at the Western edge of that reason, and 4 of the six teams currently in the regional rankings are more than 500 miles away from Millington.  This means the NCAA has to pick up the air-fare to send them out there, which is seemingly unlikely.  The discussion is centering around teams from the MidEast region who are within 500 miles of Millington (memphis) could be shipped to the South.

Those include Thomas More (PrAC), Wabash (NCAC), Franklin, Manchester, and Rose Hulman (all of the HCAC).  Could it be that three Mideast teams get shipped to TN?  And then who gets sent to Marietta to fill out our region?

Shenandoah (South, Pool C) goes somewhere.  Putting them here sends puts #1/2 Marietta, #3/4 Shenendoah, and #7/9 Heidelberg and #13/20 Adrian all in the same region.  Talk about "Top Heavy".  Shendandoah could also go to the NY region with Cortland(#6)and Brockport (Others receiving votes).  And they could go to the Mid-Atlantic Region with Kean #3/4) and Alvernia (15/18).  Either of these options would make the regionals more balanced.

Salisbury (#4 in the South), and #31/33 nationally ranked must go somewhere.  They could also end up in Marietta, the Mid Atlantic or  New York Regions. 

We could get a return of one of the Penn State branches or LaRoche from the AMCC here as well.

It is just interesting to see that what we might have been expecting to see in the region probably won't be what we see based on the geography which takes precedence. 

As an aside...What would be the opinion of any Heidelberg and Marietta Fans of seeing 'Berg go to a different region to not have to play Marietta potentially again? 
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: focusandfire on May 11, 2011, 03:10:47 PM
In additon to Shenandoah and Salisbury, you have to consider Randolph Macon and Frostburg.   Seems like Salisbury will go to the Mid-Atlantic and Frostburg will go to the Mideast.   Not sure about Shenandoah and Randolph Macon.  The Mid-Atlantic and the Mideast are about the same distance from Shendoah.  The Mid-Atlantic is closer for RM. 
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 11, 2011, 03:32:40 PM
There are any number of possibilities to make the numbers work.  Frostburg and RM could be here or there or anywhere.

Imagine a MidEast tourney that looks like this....

1.  Marietta
2.  CNU
3.  Shenendoah
4.  Heidelberg
5.  Adrian
and anyone else to make it 6-8 teams.  Yowza!  (Good thing I'm taking vacation time next week to see it regardless of who is playing!)

Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: old scot on May 11, 2011, 08:48:30 PM
If I'm a Berg fan and don't  win the OAC auto bid, I'm saying ship me to another region.

I'd rather match up against Etta in Appleton than Don Schaly Stadium.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 11, 2011, 09:23:43 PM
I agree with you old scot. The year marietta won it all in '06 we played otterbein 6 or 7 times. I would have much rather gone through someone else.

We have played twice already. We could play two or three times this weekend. And could play again next weekend. Too much for me.

I respect 'berg and coach Palm a lot, they are a heckuva team again this year. Four or five time is more than enough for me.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 13, 2011, 07:58:18 AM
COnference tourney's taking shape.

OAC:

Winners bracket game:  Marietta vs. Heidelberg
Losers Bracket game: JCU vs. Mount Union

PrAC: Rained out.

HCAC:

Winners Bracket game: Manchester vs. Franklin
Losers Bracket game:  Rose Hulman vs. Anderson.

NCAC: Champion Wabash
MIAA: Champion, Adrian
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: KYGrizzly on May 13, 2011, 01:40:52 PM
Franklin beat Manchester 9 - 7 and moves into the finals of the HCAC.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 13, 2011, 02:15:28 PM
Marietta defeats 'Berg, and is in the OAC finals.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 13, 2011, 03:26:57 PM
Anderon is out.

Manchester vs. RHIT in the losers bracket game. for the HCAC

PrAC has #4 WEstminster playing #2 Thomas More in the winners bracket and #1 Grove City vs. #3 W&J in the losers bracket a the same time (on two different fields).
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 15, 2011, 08:59:52 AM
Pool a bids from the Mideast region conferences:

Marietta (oac) #1 regional rank
Wabash (NCAC) nr
Thomas More (PAC) #4 regional rank
Franklin (hcac) nr
Adrian(miaa)#3 regional rank

Realistic pool b/c candidates
Heidelberg (c) #2 regional rank
Case western (b/c) #5 regional rank---could be on the bubble

Bubble teams with not very good chances
Manchester
Grove city college
OWU
W&J

Thomas More and Franklin are candidates to be shipped out due to their proximity to millington tn and the south region.

Berg is a lock for a bid IMO. And they should be, they are very good.

Case being #5 in the latest rankings may put them on the bubble.

I would be surprised tonsee any other pool c's from this region

My guess at the region is this:

1 marietta
2 berg
3 Adrian
4 frostburg state/Salisbury state
5 case western reserve
6 either Thomas more or Franklin (one goes to millington)
7 Wabash


Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2011, 09:14:43 AM
^^^ I agree with the Pool C bids.  

Adrian will jump Heidelberg to the #2 spot b/c of the Berg's 2 losses this weekend.

Also if Thomas More stays in the region, they will most likely be the #4 seed...their record is very good.

1 - Marietta (38-3)
2 - Adrian (31-9)
3 - Heidelberg (33-11)
4 -  Thomas More (28-7)
5 - Case Western (30-13)
6 - Frostburg State (28-13)
7 - Franklin (29-12)
8 -  Wabash (21-20)

Frankling or Thomas More could get shipped to the South Regional to make this a 7-team bracket...which would reward Marietta for their overall #1 seed (like HEID got last year).



Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 15, 2011, 12:03:45 PM
The difference between two and three is marginal (they still have to play each other in the second rond if they win) and I won't argue with your rationale. In following some of the other discussions I would say the probability of one or two Mideast teams get sent to the south region is fairly high. Penn state-Altoona/berehend could end up in marietta as well.

I agree of Thomas more stays in this region they will be the four seed based on the last regional ranking. 

Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2011, 08:57:39 PM
Really good chance of this being a 7 team regional, IMO. That will be true many years, actually. NE and Mid-Atlantic are always going to be 8 team, then it's between NY, Mideast and South which will be 7. This year I think New York will be 8 and Mideast 7 because there are already going to be flow issues with teams going west to Bloomington and Millington.

As much as half the traditionally Mideast contingent could go to Millington (Franklin, Thomas More, Wabash).
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2011, 07:58:58 AM
waiting...waiting....waiting....waiting!!

It's never taken this long for the NCAA to release the Regional pairings.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 16, 2011, 08:01:45 AM
Berg is the 2 seed in the 7 team Mideast.  No word on Case yet.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2011, 08:05:07 AM
it's finally up...

Mideast Regional in Marietta, Ohio
1. Marietta
2. Heidelberg
3. Adrian
4. Franklin
5. Frostburg State
6. Case Western Reserve
7. Penn State-Altoona
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2011, 08:08:36 AM
d3baseball.com front page....they are posting them as they come in.

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2011/05/ncaa-tournament-selections-announced
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 16, 2011, 08:24:08 AM
All things considered, this is pretty good.  I wasn't a "fan" of the predictions made on the D3 baseball site with Shenandoah coming in here.  And while it would be nice to not have to play Heidelberg again, if we have to we have to. 

Kean is probably glad to not welcome the hornets either.

It will be interesting to see the rest of this fill out. 
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Gramps on May 16, 2011, 08:30:51 AM
Congrats to all of the teams that are in the MidEast Regional. Now if the weather cooperates?????
Super to see Case included. 1st time in a "Regional", I think. Good Luck.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 16, 2011, 10:00:26 AM
Wednesday's Schedule

Game 1  9:30 AM  #4 Franklin vs. #5 Frostburg
Game 2  1:00 PM  #3 Adrian vs. #6 Case Western Reserve
Game 3  4:30 PM  #2 'Berg vs. #7 Penn State - Altoona
Game 4  8:00 PM  #1 Marietta vs. Loser Game 1.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2011, 10:08:56 AM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 16, 2011, 08:24:08 AM
All things considered, this is pretty good.  I wasn't a "fan" of the predictions made on the D3 baseball site with Shenandoah coming in here.  And while it would be nice to not have to play Heidelberg again, if we have to we have to. 

Kean is probably glad to not welcome the hornets either.

It will be interesting to see the rest of this fill out. 

Well, we figured the NCAA would spend its money the way it always has. This year was definitely a surprise. We'll have to remember that when football and basketball roll around, that baseball got to spring for two extra teams to fly.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: BigPoppa on May 16, 2011, 10:13:59 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2011, 10:08:56 AM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 16, 2011, 08:24:08 AM
All things considered, this is pretty good.  I wasn't a "fan" of the predictions made on the D3 baseball site with Shenandoah coming in here.  And while it would be nice to not have to play Heidelberg again, if we have to we have to. 

Kean is probably glad to not welcome the hornets either.

It will be interesting to see the rest of this fill out. 

Well, we figured the NCAA would spend its money the way it always has. This year was definitely a surprise. We'll have to remember that when football and basketball roll around, that baseball got to spring for two extra teams to fly.
And it is much cheaper to fly a hoops team than a baseball team. Half the number of players.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 16, 2011, 10:50:34 AM
Pat,

I am well aware of your thought process, as it had been discussed on these boards at great length.  It was strictly my personal biases that didn't want to see shenendoah here...nothing more nothing less.  It was a bigger shock the NCAA did what it did as opposed to what you predicted. 

The best two weeks of the year are forthcoming!
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 16, 2011, 11:10:53 AM
Interesting matchups the first day. Adrian and Domschot/Partyka against a good hitting Case team with really mediocre pitching.

Frostburg State has an all-American candidate ace but doesn't tend to score a lot of runs, going against Franklin which has several pretty decent pitchers, no great ones, a shoddy defense, and a really solid offense.

I would think Frostburg would have a good chance to win if they throw Ross. And a potential Heidelberg/Adrian redux is tasty.

The longer they stay around, the tougher Franklin gets in this regional IMO with their pitching depth and offense.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 16, 2011, 11:58:38 AM
Near as I can tell from reading the NCAA manual, they have eliminated the provision which allowed Heidelberg to win the regional in three games a year ago. 

However, from the schedule posted on the offical site, it appears that the top seed still only has to win one game. 

It will be interesting to see which schedule is correct.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2011, 05:17:37 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 16, 2011, 11:58:38 AM
Near as I can tell from reading the NCAA manual, they have eliminated the provision which allowed Heidelberg to win the regional in three games a year ago. 

However, from the schedule posted on the offical site, it appears that the top seed still only has to win one game. 

It will be interesting to see which schedule is correct.


I have been wondering the same thing....the Championship manual has Marietta playing the loser of the 4/5 game; but the MC website has it the same as last year, where they would play the winner.

I would tend to go with the Handbook, but then again it's the NCAA, so who knows what's right.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: old scot on May 16, 2011, 05:41:53 PM
Being a NCAC and OAC homer, I see this region coming down to an Etta and Berg faceoff to go to Appleton.
Pios pitching staff has been unreal during the season and post season. If they continue their outstanding performance from the hill, I don't see anyone beating them.( In the Mid East and Appleton)
As far as the Berg, I know they have a great offense but, their numbers are down compared to last year. The only thing the Student Princes have going for them is facing Etta pitching again may give them more time to figure them out.
I hate to pick against Woo Alum, Matt Palm but, I think the Express will take this region.

It is a shame that the NCAA did not ship the Berg to another region. I think you have 2 of the top 4 in the country playing for one spot in the big dance.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 16, 2011, 09:13:35 PM
Looks like they have made the change. It now shows MC playing the loser of game 1.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 17, 2011, 08:13:12 AM
Here is the "bracket" with the three difference scenarios.



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Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Gramps on May 18, 2011, 07:43:32 AM
Good Luck to THE BERG as they began the Mid-East Regional today against Penn State- Altoona.


GO BERG!!!!
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 18, 2011, 07:53:39 AM
New schedule for today...

Game 1 11:45
Game 2 3:00
Game 3 6:15
Game 4 9:30

No big shock here given the rain we had lst night and the weather so far here in town this morning.

Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Gramps on May 18, 2011, 10:54:30 AM
According to the Marietta Region website, most of the games will have a video option for those who can't be there.  Just click on Details, and than on Watch to access the video of your favorite team.  Good Luck to all of the teams.  Still praying for the weather to cooperate.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 18, 2011, 11:42:39 AM
Frostburg saving their all American candidate for game 2.

Interesting decision
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 18, 2011, 12:43:01 PM
Into the bottom of the fourth and the frostburg defense has looked less than impressive. Their starting second baseman was injured as a base runner early and the replacement has committed two errors.

Quayle for frostburg is not super impressive on the mound. Franklins pitcher, Ellis, has been fairly effective early on.

Into the sixth and this game is kind of just plodding along. Frostburgs offense certainly won't scare anyone. Their pitcher, Quayle, has seemed to settle into a groove.

Neither team is hitting the ball particularly hard. One long loud out otherwise not much hit out of the infield.

Franklin has turned a few double plays to get out of some trouble. Frost burg had a chance to turn one and thre the ball away on the pivot. Something that cost them two runs.

Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 18, 2011, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 18, 2011, 11:42:39 AM
Frostburg saving their all American candidate for game 2.

Interesting decision

i've seen that move backfire too man times...not a good choice in my opinion.  it sure would be ironic for them to lose this one, then have their ace have to face Gasser tonight. 

this first one is almost a must-win for frostburg if they are going to play with fire like that.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 18, 2011, 01:41:22 PM
Trouble brewing for Franklin in the top of the 8th. Starter lost his command and has the bases loaded.

Reliever comes in and gets a huge strike out and a ground out to end the threat

Frostburg leaves he bases loaded twice in the final two innings.

Frostburg batter looks at a fastball right down the middle of the plate for called strike three to end it. 

This is why you don't save pitching.  Use the best you have available and stay in the winner's bracket.

Interesting matchup tonight between frostburg's Ross and marietta's Gasser. Should be a fast game.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: KYGrizzly on May 18, 2011, 02:04:14 PM
Way to go Franklin.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 18, 2011, 04:05:19 PM
Domschot (Adrian) is the real deal. Not a lot of strikeouts thru 5 but a lot of routine stuff for outs. Just a lot of routine pop ups.

Case's starter had one rough inning but has avoided further damage. Adrian is making good contact though.

Game is moving quickly.
Adrians reliever proceeds to give up a grand slam. Until then case hadn't done much all day.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 18, 2011, 05:07:29 PM
couple close games to start the tournament.

Congrats to Case on the huge hit in the 9th, their only big swing of the day.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 18, 2011, 06:25:36 PM
Nathan James is off to a rough start for the berg. Altoona got hit hard in the first inning. And is getting hit hard again in the second.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: old scot on May 18, 2011, 07:09:11 PM
Congrats to Case on a big win!

Don't you just love baseball. The game can turn on a dime. It is not over until 27 outs have been recorded.

Way to go Woo Alum Matt Englander on building a program and good luck throughout the tourney.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 18, 2011, 08:04:16 PM
This is vintage Marietta baseball. Greg Ross has thrown an outstanding game for Frostburg State, certainly looks like an All-American to me on the UStream.

But MC has taken every chance, and created most of their own. Forcing bunt defense, putting runners in motion and putting pressure on the catcher in that way, and running up the pitch count on Ross who is near 130 pitches before 8 innings are complete.

Really, really good baseball.

EDIT: Ross is out with the bases loaded and two outs following a "tough error" on a one-hopper to third base. Very, very good pitching from him.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 18, 2011, 11:49:19 PM
Ross was legit. The pioneer bats never got him figured out, save for Alex Toth who was two for three against him. The frostburg defense let him down.

Offensively, frostburg just wasn't on par.

A couple of interesting winners bracket games on tap tomorrow. Can case step up and do it against either sly niƱo or Ethan Holt?  A heavy hitting Franklin team against Austin Blaski.

Should be fun.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: ettanut4life on May 19, 2011, 02:00:23 AM
special night in Marietta last night. It is such a different atmosphere there come tournament time that you simply don't see most places. Glad Etta was able to escape the upset bug that was going on around the country today. #2,3,5,7 teams all going down. Tomorrow should seperate what teams prove to have a legitimate shot at winning their regions...
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 19, 2011, 07:12:49 AM
today's match-ups, hope the weather cooperates!


5/19/2011
GAME 5: #7 Penn State-Altoona (0-1) vs. #3 Adrian (0-1) (9:30 a.m.)
GAME 6: #6 Case Western Reserve (1-0) vs. #2 Heidelberg (1-0) (1 p.m.)
GAME 7: #1 Marietta (1-0) vs. #4 Franklin (1-0) (4:30 p.m.)
Game 8: Loser of Game 6 (1-1) vs. Winner of Game 5 (1-1) (7 p.m.)
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: ADL70 on May 19, 2011, 07:50:47 AM
I look for Boshinski to start against the 'Berg.

He pitched 5-1/3 innings of 3 hit shut out ball against them in March.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 19, 2011, 11:10:44 AM
Adrian is ready to eliminate PS-Altoona, behind a masterful performance from Partyka.

They lead 2-0 in the 9th.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: bufordscot on May 19, 2011, 11:22:37 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 19, 2011, 11:10:44 AM
Adrian is ready to eliminate PS-Altoona, behind a masterful performance from Partyka.

They lead 2-0 in the 9th.
spoke to soon?
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 19, 2011, 11:43:35 AM
Ouch!  Two games in a row Adrian drops a heartbreaker. 

Partyka pitched 8 beautiful innings.  He just pitched one inning too many.

Altoona had plenty of hits and chances, they just couldn't advance runners at key times. 

We will see how well Case matches up with 'Berg.  If their three regular season meetings are any indication...

Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 19, 2011, 12:30:42 PM
Quote from: bufordscot on May 19, 2011, 11:22:37 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on May 19, 2011, 11:10:44 AM
Adrian is ready to eliminate PS-Altoona, behind a masterful performance from Partyka.

They lead 2-0 in the 9th.
spoke to soon?

yep...good for Altoona.  looks like they get to extend their stay in Marieta an extra 12 hours or so.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 19, 2011, 07:12:08 PM
One thing which stood out today was how much better marietta and berg are defensively than everyone else in the tournament.

Folks. There are two of the best defensive shortstops you will find anywhere. Jason lash from 'berg and Tim Saunders from marietta are superb and both made numerous plays today that
Made you say "wow".

Admittedly I'm partial to Saunders, but the guy is filthy good.

By my unofficial count lash robbed at least two guys of hits and Saunders three.

Willie brechun from berg at third also made some tremendous stops.

Yes these two teams have quality pitchers and both can hit but it is worth saying again: both teams are FAR superior defensively to the other 5 in the field.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: ettanut4life on May 19, 2011, 07:12:46 PM
Marietta gets a solid 6-0 win against Franklin. Austin Blaski goes the whole way tossing a 1 hit shutout. Masterful performance as the starting pitching keeps on rolling for Etta. Showdown at noon with Heidelberg just as expected.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 19, 2011, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: ettanut4life on May 19, 2011, 07:12:46 PM
Marietta gets a solid 6-0 win against Franklin. Austin Blaski goes the whole way tossing a 1 hit shutout. Masterful performance as the starting pitching keeps on rolling for Etta. Showdown at noon with Heidelberg just as expected.

Pretty sure this is the only regional where the 1 and 2 seeds have both won their first two games.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: motorman on May 19, 2011, 10:02:16 PM
Looks like the D3.com regional preview was wrong on at least one thing about the Mideast Regional. Don't think the Berg is the team most likely to disappoint anymore. Think the title goes to Adrian.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 19, 2011, 11:17:56 PM
Quote from: motorman on May 19, 2011, 10:02:16 PM
Looks like the D3.com regional preview was wrong on at least one thing about the Mideast Regional. Don't think the Berg is the team most likely to disappoint anymore. Think the title goes to Adrian.

Who would guess that a prediction would be wrong?  ::)

If Heidelberg doesn't win it, it'll be a disappointment from where their sites were set to start the year.

Adrian lost two heartbreakers, one where they didn't stay with Domschot and one where they did stay with Partyka. Couldn't win either way. Couldn't get enough offense to make it a moot point.

I don't really like the "most likely to disappoint" category though because you really only have a couple of choices for it...your champion obviously won't be one and then it won't be a lower seeded team...have to pick someone.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: rob on May 20, 2011, 12:30:28 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 19, 2011, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: ettanut4life on May 19, 2011, 07:12:46 PM
Marietta gets a solid 6-0 win against Franklin. Austin Blaski goes the whole way tossing a 1 hit shutout. Masterful performance as the starting pitching keeps on rolling for Etta. Showdown at noon with Heidelberg just as expected.

Pretty sure this is the only regional where the 1 and 2 seeds have both won their first two games.
As of right now not every 1 & 2 seed have played 2 games yet.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 20, 2011, 12:34:11 AM
Quote from: rob on May 20, 2011, 12:30:28 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 19, 2011, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: ettanut4life on May 19, 2011, 07:12:46 PM
Marietta gets a solid 6-0 win against Franklin. Austin Blaski goes the whole way tossing a 1 hit shutout. Masterful performance as the starting pitching keeps on rolling for Etta. Showdown at noon with Heidelberg just as expected.

Pretty sure this is the only regional where the 1 and 2 seeds have both won their first two games.
As of right now not every 1 & 2 seed have played 2 games yet.

Are there any left that have this possibility though? I guess Farmingdale State does.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Gramps on May 20, 2011, 09:23:44 AM
forheavendial4999, I don't know how you got a -4 Karma, but I've seen most of your postings and you seem to be pretty thorough. Anyhow, I award you a +1 Karma for your hard work.

   +1 Karma
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 20, 2011, 01:37:10 PM
could the game start any better for Marietta? holy cow!!!!

Koehl got lit up and only lasted 1 and 1\3 innings.

what an offensive display by the Etta Express. already 10 hits in 2 innings, with 9 runs.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 20, 2011, 02:05:49 PM
The pios are dialed in today. 8 of the 9 batters have recorded a hit in the first three innings.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: bufordscot on May 20, 2011, 02:55:30 PM
throw in the towel for goodness sakes.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: rob on May 20, 2011, 03:08:58 PM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 20, 2011, 12:34:11 AM
Quote from: rob on May 20, 2011, 12:30:28 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 19, 2011, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: ettanut4life on May 19, 2011, 07:12:46 PM
Marietta gets a solid 6-0 win against Franklin. Austin Blaski goes the whole way tossing a 1 hit shutout. Masterful performance as the starting pitching keeps on rolling for Etta. Showdown at noon with Heidelberg just as expected.

Pretty sure this is the only regional where the 1 and 2 seeds have both won their first two games.
As of right now not every 1 & 2 seed have played 2 games yet.

Are there any left that have this possibility though? I guess Farmingdale State does.
As of when I posted this Cortland was in a suspended game and Farmingdale was rescheduled.
This morming Cortland won but Farmingdale lost to the #3 seed Keystone
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 20, 2011, 03:18:33 PM
Never would have thought this would be the outcome.

Berg still battling at the plate. Three hits and two runs so far

The thing which will be interesting to see is how does berg respond to this.

I expect them to put a beating on someone tonite. 

I also would expect a few eyebrows raised around the d3 world when they see this score later.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 20, 2011, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 20, 2011, 03:18:33 PM
Never would have thought this would be the outcome.

Berg still battling at the plate. Three hits and two runs so far

The thing which will be interesting to see is how does berg respond to this.

I expect them to put a beating on someone tonite. 

I also would expect a few eyebrows raised around the d3 world when they see this score later.

That is why I came to this message board!

Who recorded the safety for Marietta?   ;)
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 20, 2011, 07:03:24 PM
GAME 10

final
#6 CWRU - 10
#4 Franklin - 4

things are looking good for Ohio teams...they will be the last 3 standing.

Case will play Heidelberg in the loser's bracket final tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 21, 2011, 07:30:24 AM
5/21/2011 - CHAMPIONSHIP SATURDAY!!!

GAME 11 - #6 Case Western Reserve (3-1) vs. #2 Heidelberg (2-1) - 12:00pm
GAME 12 - #1 Marietta (3-0) vs. Winner of Game 11 - 3:30 p.m.

if Marietta falls in GAME 12, there will be a repeat matchup for the Regional Title on Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 21, 2011, 07:51:38 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 20, 2011, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 20, 2011, 03:18:33 PM
Never would have thought this would be the outcome.

Berg still battling at the plate. Three hits and two runs so far

The thing which will be interesting to see is how does berg respond to this.

I expect them to put a beating on someone tonite. 

I also would expect a few eyebrows raised around the d3 world when they see this score later.

That is why I came to this message board!

Who recorded the safety for Marietta?   ;)

Joke doesn't work. No one would think Marietta's football team scored 23 points. :)
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: ettanut4life on May 21, 2011, 12:23:00 PM
OAC tourny was a two team tournament and mideast regional lookin the same way. Etta n Berg most likely for ticket to Appleton
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 21, 2011, 06:53:32 PM
What a game between marietta and 'berg.

Defense and picking ruled the afternoon.

Berg got two bases loaded double plays to end innings. Marietta got one double play to end a serious threat. Lizcano made a diving catch to prevent an extra base hit which ended up saving a run. Willie brechun was stellar at third making two great stops. The biggest play defensively was made by marietta's Casey leavens as he made a diving stop of Willie brechuns laser beam ground ball with runners at first and second. That sealed the deal

Gasser and thomas were stellar on the hill. Thomas had marietta off balance all day. Gasser was just gasser. 

One if the highlights was a nose to nose argument between brewer and Matt palm. Palm was upset about a marietta player sliding into second to break up the double play causing gar keen to land awkwardly and be slow to get up. They jawed at each other pretty good for a minute or two.  Brewer took exception to palm yelling at the marietta player and thirdbase coach.  They were seperated and a few innings later seed to make nice.

Great game to watch and the stands were packed.

Love d3 college baseball.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 21, 2011, 11:22:13 PM
Thanks for a really good summary! Great to post things that you can't pick out of a box score!

Sounds like a terrific game between two great teams. A shame they can't both go to Appleton.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Gramps on May 22, 2011, 06:42:52 AM
WHAT A GAME!!!! JUST WHAT A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME SHOULD BE.

A tip of Gramps hat to the Marietta Pios on winning the trip to the WS.
It was a wonderful experience for us last year. Bring back the trophy to the OAC family.

We made great friends with some of the Pio family and fans over the years and I and my family wish them the best of luck.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Gramps on May 22, 2011, 06:50:35 AM
EttaFan1, Tried to find you, both during the game and after. Sorry I missed you. Wanted to congratulate you for both your team's win and your fine and fair blogging.
Best of Luck in Grand Chute. Bring back the Trophy.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 22, 2011, 09:10:38 AM
Thanks for the kind words. My father and I were talking during the game and were commenting on how well we "knew" the Heidelberg lineup--almost as well as our own.

I had a chance to speak to coach Palm this weekend. All I can say is that he is a class guy. He has done such a phenomenal job building that program. And if you talk to him for just a few seconds you can see why.  It is easy to see  why young men would what to play for him. 

And while the season didn't end as you may have wanted it to, the Berg family and coaches should be very proud of all hey have accomplished in the last few years.  Their season was outstanding. The career if the seniors was outstanding.  They have earned the respect of he Pioneers.

Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: macdade77 on May 22, 2011, 09:39:23 AM
Congratulations to the Marietta College Pioneers on their Mideast Regional Championship. I wouldn't bet against them to win it all next week in Appleton. Also, I want to offer my sincere Congrats to the Heidelberg Seniors for all of their accomplishments. Gramps, correct me if I'm wrong... At least 2 OAC championships, 1 regional title, 2 regional second place finishes and third at the D3 NCAA National Championships. Simply outstanding! It was a pleasure meeting you.... Good luck to you and your grandson!!
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 22, 2011, 01:20:35 PM
^^^ This season was the first that those seniors didn't win both the regular season and OAC tournament titles.  Their success has been remarkable.  Kids are told all over the place to come somewhere and help change the program.  Those kids actually did it. 
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 22, 2011, 01:47:06 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 22, 2011, 01:20:35 PM
  Kids are told all over the place to come somewhere and help change the program.  Those kids actually did it. 

very true!  I'm confident coach Palm will continue getting those recruits, and Heidelberg will continue to battle Marietta year after year for OAC dominance.....the question will be whether or not another team can step up to challenge the two of them?
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 22, 2011, 02:10:23 PM
Palm can recruit, there's no doubting that.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: ettanut4life on May 22, 2011, 03:07:00 PM
going to be quite interesting to see how Heidelberg will do next year with the departure of 13 seniors. including 6 starting position players.

side note: any word on how Salisbury is? How do they matchup with The Etta?
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 22, 2011, 07:18:26 PM
Quote from: ettanut4life on May 22, 2011, 03:07:00 PM
going to be quite interesting to see how Heidelberg will do next year with the departure of 13 seniors. including 6 starting position players.

The 64,000 dollar question. I look at this like I looked at W&J coming into this year...just losing so much, you wonder how they can possibly avoid slipping.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: macdade77 on May 22, 2011, 09:37:04 PM
I think I read somewhere that Wabash gave Salisbury all they wanted in their South regional contest. I really believe that Marietta is a solid favorite to win it all in Appleton. I sincerely believe that there are more good teams in the Mideast region than any other in the country. Am I being somewhat parochial here or are there others who share the same belief????
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 22, 2011, 09:41:27 PM
Quote from: macdade77 on May 22, 2011, 09:37:04 PM
I think I read somewhere that Wabash gave Salisbury all they wanted in their South regional contest. I really believe that Marietta is a solid favorite to win it all in Appleton. I sincerely believe that there are more good teams in the Mideast region than any other in the country. Am I being somewhat parochial here or are there others who share the same belief????

I think you are being somewhat parochial. I thought this was a down year for the Mideast. Adrian was pretty good but never had enough offense. Marietta and Heidelberg are obviously very good and Berg probably could have won a few other regionals.

But no one in the NCAC or PAC seemed like much. Franklin was decent but there have been better teams come out of Indiana. And the OAC was a distinct 2 team league.

The Mid-Atlantic and the Midwest compare pretty well. Mideast is much better than some other regions though, year in and year out.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: ettanut4life on May 22, 2011, 09:53:33 PM
Agree on summary of MidEast. Last year with Etta, Heidelberg and Wooster (all in top 10), the region was by far the hardest in the country. This year, it was understood it would be Berg and Etta in finalsn unless Partyka or Domschot threw a gem if they had faced them.with that being said, I still believe Berg would win or be a favorite in most regions, would have been interesting to see how they would have faired had the NCAA shipped them to the Central or South (with shenandoah and CNU apparently not being what everybody thought they were)
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: motorman on May 22, 2011, 10:27:08 PM
Quote from: macdade77 on May 22, 2011, 09:37:04 PM
I think I read somewhere that Wabash gave Salisbury all they wanted in their South regional contest. I really believe that Marietta is a solid favorite to win it all in Appleton. I sincerely believe that there are more good teams in the Mideast region than any other in the country. Am I being somewhat parochial here or are there others who share the same belief????

I don't think you are being as parochial as everyone else. Two Mideast teams were shipped to other regions and made solid showings. Thomas More in the Central and Wabash, who knocked out #2 Christopher Newport in the south. If they were kept in the Mideast it would have been much more difficult than Penn State Altoona and Frostburg turned out to be.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: ettanut4life on May 22, 2011, 11:02:02 PM
The pitching was the big downer for the other MidEast teams other than adrian, etta and berg. case, franklin and altoona didn't seem to have much depth in quality arms. Frostburg is hard to figure on whether they had good depth or not, their ace ( greg ross) was one heck of a pitcher. He was impressive with as good of stuff as anybody I'd seen all year. Great matchup to see him go heads up against Gasser. Hopefully the Etta starters will be able to continue this magical season their having with their eye-popping numbers and shut down the competition in Appleton
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 23, 2011, 08:13:38 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 22, 2011, 07:18:26 PM
Quote from: ettanut4life on May 22, 2011, 03:07:00 PM
going to be quite interesting to see how Heidelberg will do next year with the departure of 13 seniors. including 6 starting position players.

The 64,000 dollar question. I look at this like I looked at W&J coming into this year...just losing so much, you wonder how they can possibly avoid slipping.

They're going to have so many new guys in the lineup it's going to be very interesting.  Lizcano being back helps.  I think their pitching with Holt, Nino, Thomas and O'Driscoll will be very good again.  No Andy Lowe is going to be the gaping hole there.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 23, 2011, 08:39:20 AM
To me this year's Mid-East Region was a two horse race.  The only other team who might have had a shot in this tournament was Adrian had they had some things go a different way.  (I would have loved to see Partyka vs. Heidelberg).  

The two OAC teams are good at the plate and they are good on the mound, as each have at least 4 guys who are quality starters, possibly even #1 guys on most any other team.   The biggest differences between Marietta, 'Berg and the rest of the Mideast field was their team speed, their defensive abilities, and their avoidance of dumb mistakes.  

Speed was a huge issue.  The position players for Marietta and 'Berg are able to get to balls that many other teams couldn't.  The speed also came into play on the base paths.  

You may not see two better defensive infields than what Marietta and Berg put on the field.  Folks, the Gregorich, Saunders, Becker, Leavens combo and the Brechun, Lash, Keen, Andercjzak (spelled incorrectly sorry) are seriously good.  These guys made play after play after play all weekend and all year.  They make the "routine plays" with ease.  They make tough plays look routine, and they make  spectacular plays to rob base hits from their opponents.   Both teams turned double play  after double play to get out of  innings.  

The outfileds for both were able to track down ball after ball after ball.   They made plays the other teams just weren't able to  make.

And most importantly they rarely make mistakes to beat themselves.   Bad throws and bad hops happen.  But I saw enough mental blunders to make me scratch my head.  

I honestly think if 'Berg went to a different region they would be joining Marietta in Appleton this weekend.  
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 23, 2011, 08:49:44 PM
Quote from: ettanut4life on May 22, 2011, 11:02:02 PM
The pitching was the big downer for the other MidEast teams other than adrian, etta and berg. case, franklin and altoona didn't seem to have much depth in quality arms. Frostburg is hard to figure on whether they had good depth or not, their ace ( greg ross) was one heck of a pitcher. He was impressive with as good of stuff as anybody I'd seen all year. Great matchup to see him go heads up against Gasser. Hopefully the Etta starters will be able to continue this magical season their having with their eye-popping numbers and shut down the competition in Appleton

Watched the video feed on the Frostburg game...Ross was excellent. Defense not so much for Frostburg.
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 23, 2011, 11:22:25 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 23, 2011, 08:39:20 AM
To me this year's Mid-East Region was a two horse race.  The only other team who might have had a shot in this tournament was Adrian had they had some things go a different way.  (I would have loved to see Partyka vs. Heidelberg).  

The two OAC teams are good at the plate and they are good on the mound, as each have at least 4 guys who are quality starters, possibly even #1 guys on most any other team.   The biggest differences between Marietta, 'Berg and the rest of the Mideast field was their team speed, their defensive abilities, and their avoidance of dumb mistakes.  

Speed was a huge issue.  The position players for Marietta and 'Berg are able to get to balls that many other teams couldn't.  The speed also came into play on the base paths.  

You may not see two better defensive infields than what Marietta and Berg put on the field.  Folks, the Gregorich, Saunders, Becker, Leavens combo and the Brechun, Lash, Keen, Andercjzak (spelled incorrectly sorry) are seriously good.  These guys made play after play after play all weekend and all year.  They make the "routine plays" with ease.  They make tough plays look routine, and they make  spectacular plays to rob base hits from their opponents.   Both teams turned double play  after double play to get out of  innings.  

The outfileds for both were able to track down ball after ball after ball.   They made plays the other teams just weren't able to  make.

And most importantly they rarely make mistakes to beat themselves.   Bad throws and bad hops happen.  But I saw enough mental blunders to make me scratch my head.  

I honestly think if 'Berg went to a different region they would be joining Marietta in Appleton this weekend.  

Which supports my preference to distribute the Pool C bids to "out-of-region" brackets to the greatest extent possible?

I think that that would make the "regional" tourney more "national"!
Title: Re: BB: 2011 Mideast Regional (Marietta)
Post by: motorman on May 27, 2011, 11:52:31 PM

Which supports my preference to distribute the Pool C bids to "out-of-region" brackets to the greatest extent possible?

I think that that would make the "regional" tourney more "national"!
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I agree Ralph, but obviously the NCAA wants as broad a representation at the World Series as possible, thus they do not want two schools from the same league there. Two schools from the same region seems to be different for some reason. Why they would want to keep a top five ranked team from making the Series just because there is another top five team in their league is beyond me.