Top 25 discussion

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BlueZoneBruin

It will be very interesting to see how the new Top 25 (especially the top 10) shakes out this week. So many of the losses were quality losses.

#4 Calvin loses at #18 Hope in a huge rivalry game. Will probably drop Calvin a bit, but probably not much (maybe 2-4 positions).

#7 Lewis & Clark loses at #3 George Fox in a huge rivalry game. Last time GFU beat them, L&C actually moved up in the rankings. Expect L&C to drop no more than 2 places.

#5 Rochester loses to #2 Chicago and #8 WashU. Loss to Chicago shouldn't hurt much, even by 13. Loss to WashU is harder, although the Bears are stout once again this season. This likely drops Rochester out of the Top 10, keeping them in the low teens.

#8 WashU loses at Emory. Huh? Bears lay an egg. This will hurt them, despite beating #5. Wash U likely drops 2 positions.

Here's my top 10 for the week...

1) Amherst
2) Chicago
3) George Fox
4) DePauw
5) William Patterson
6) Calvin
7) Mount Union
8) Mary Washington
9) Lewis & Clark
10) WashU

Can't wait for the first Regional Rankings this week!

bballfan13

Quote from: BlueZoneBruin on February 06, 2012, 04:55:39 PM
It will be very interesting to see how the new Top 25 (especially the top 10) shakes out this week. So many of the losses were quality losses.

#4 Calvin loses at #18 Hope in a huge rivalry game. Will probably drop Calvin a bit, but probably not much (maybe 2-4 positions).

#7 Lewis & Clark loses at #3 George Fox in a huge rivalry game. Last time GFU beat them, L&C actually moved up in the rankings. Expect L&C to drop no more than 2 places.

#5 Rochester loses to #2 Chicago and #8 WashU. Loss to Chicago shouldn't hurt much, even by 13. Loss to WashU is harder, although the Bears are stout once again this season. This likely drops Rochester out of the Top 10, keeping them in the low teens.

#8 WashU loses at Emory. Huh? Bears lay an egg. This will hurt them, despite beating #5. Wash U likely drops 2 positions.

Here's my top 10 for the week...

1) Amherst
2) Chicago
3) George Fox
4) DePauw
5) William Patterson
6) Calvin
7) Mount Union
8) Mary Washington
9) Lewis & Clark
10) WashU

Can't wait for the first Regional Rankings this week!

Looks like you were pretty close.  Just switched Calvin and William Patterson and move Wash U out of the top 10 for UW-Stevens Point.  Things are getting more interesting down the stretch.  I too am excited to see the first regional rankings of the year.

Darryl Nester

#1472
How They Fared (So Far)

All day long I've had that nagging feeling that I had forgotten something ...

(edit) Mid-week report deleted -- replaced by the complete report below.

Darryl Nester

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1618Amherst24-0def. T#30 Williams, 77-55; def. Middlebury, 80-50
#2602Chicago22-0def. Carnegie Mellon, 95-46; def. Case Western Reserve, 73-44
#3580George Fox23-0won at Puget Sound, 77-56; won at Willamette, 73-38
#4534DePauw21-1won at Oberlin, 70-39
#5490Calvin22-1def. Kalamazoo, 72-38; won at Olivet, 67-44
#6479William Paterson23-1won at Rutgers-Newark, 75-71; def. New Jersey City, 94-38
#7441Mount Union22-1won at Marietta, 74-56; won at T#37 Ohio Northern, 72-68
#8425Mary Washington23-0won at Hood, 53-47; won at York (Pa.), 54-48
#9396Lewis and Clark21-2won at Willamette, 77-58; def. Pacific Lutheran, 76-65
#10373UW-Stevens Point20-3def. UW-Oshkosh, 66-56
#11357Rochester19-3def. Brandeis, 53-37; def. New York University, 64-50
#12351Washington U.18-4def. Case Western Reserve, 59-50; def. Carnegie Mellon, 86-74
#13338Juniata23-1def. Catholic, 55-52; def. Goucher, 75-49
#14330Franklin21-2LOST at Rose-Hulman, 52-59; won at Anderson, 68-43
#15265St. Thomas22-1def. St. Catherine, 93-52; def. Concordia-Moorhead, 53-44
#16235Hope20-3def. Olivet, 48-36; won at Alma, 73-56
#17210Lebanon Valley21-2def. Elizabethtown, 65-51; def. Albright, 74-48
#18205Babson20-2won at MIT, 59-34; def. Smith, 73-65
#19174Louisiana College19-3won at University of the Ozarks, 86-66; LOST at Texas-Dallas, 61-69
#20145Kean20-4LOST at TCNJ, 55-65
#21133UW-River Falls19-4won at UW-Superior, 64-62; def. UW-Oshkosh, 71-46
#22131UW-Eau Claire18-5won at UW-Stout, 72-40
#2395Centre20-2LOST at Birmingham-Southern, 60-72; won at Oglethorpe, 74-71
#2481Johns Hopkins20-3LOST at McDaniel, 74-76; def. Ursinus, 67-46
#2549Illinois Wesleyan18-5def. North Central (Ill.), 95-54; won at #26 Carthage, 57-53


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2620Carthage17-6LOST to Wheaton (Ill.), 49-51; LOST to #25 Illinois Wesleyan, 53-57
T#2712Messiah18-4def. Lycoming, 62-33; won at Arcadia, 68-60
T#2712Rhode Island College20-3won at Mass-Dartmouth, 70-52; LOST at Southern Maine, 68-72
#299UW-Whitewater18-5def. UW-Platteville, 62-48; won at UW-Superior, 69-50
T#307Greensboro18-4LOST to #36 Ferrum, 63-72; won at Christopher Newport, 57-54
T#307Thomas More19-4won at Westminster (Pa.), 79-42; won at Waynesburg, 75-68
T#307Williams19-5LOST at #1 Amherst, 55-77; won at Trinity (Conn.), 80-76
#334Ithaca20-4won at Elmira, 72-56; won at Alfred, 68-37
T#343Colby18-5def. Husson, 71-43; def. Connecticut College, 71-56; def. Wesleyan, 66-48
T#343Piedmont19-4def. LaGrange, 72-64; LOST at Maryville (Tenn.), 56-59
#362Ferrum19-4won at T#30 Greensboro, 72-63; def. Methodist, 73-62
T#371Ohio Northern19-4won at Heidelberg, 88-82; LOST to #7 Mount Union, 68-72
T#371Tufts19-5won at Hamilton, 52-37

Darryl Nester

#1474
How They Fared (So Far)

Removed -- complete results below

Darryl Nester

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1618Amherst25-0def. Trinity (Conn.), 94-59
#2602Chicago24-0won at New York University, 57-42; won at Brandeis, 77-50
#3580George Fox25-0def. Linfield, 66-52; won at Pacific Lutheran, 75-59
#4557DePauw23-1def. Wittenberg, 62-45; won at Wooster, 51-31
#5488Calvin23-1def. St. Mary's (Ind.), 73-52
#6482William Paterson23-2LOST at Stevens, 68-69
#7450Mount Union24-1won at Baldwin-Wallace, 65-58; def. Heidelberg, 90-58
#8437Mary Washington25-0def. Stevenson, 64-30; won at Wesley, 97-47
#9426Lewis and Clark23-2def. Puget Sound, 79-62; won at Pacific, 64-43
#10387UW-Stevens Point21-4won at UW-Stout, 65-44; LOST at #22 UW-Eau Claire, 55-66
#11365Rochester19-5LOST at Case Western Reserve, 57-58; LOST at Carnegie Mellon, 62-67
#12349Washington U.20-4won at Brandeis, 57-33; won at New York University, 76-59
#13326Juniata24-1won at Susquehanna, 77-48
#14292St. Thomas24-1def. Bethel, 71-56; def. St. Mary's (Minn.), 64-51
#15272Hope21-4LOST at Trine, 50-52; def. Adrian, 55-49
#16233Lebanon Valley22-3LOST at Widener, 54-65; won at Arcadia, 85-49
#17225Babson23-2def. #31 Colby, 65-59; def. Clark, 84-58; def. Springfield, 61-39
#18203UW-River Falls20-5def. UW-La Crosse, 69-53; LOST to #25 UW-Whitewater, 61-67
#19196Franklin23-2def. Mount St. Joseph, 66-48; won at Defiance, 61-52
#20112Illinois Wesleyan20-5won at Millikin, 75-63; def. Elmhurst, 82-63
#21111Louisiana College21-3def. East Texas Baptist, 105-75; def. Centenary (La.), 108-70
#2299UW-Eau Claire20-5def. UW-Platteville, 75-48; def. #10 UW-Stevens Point, 66-55
#2386Kean21-4def. Richard Stockton, 53-47
#2453Centre21-3def. Millsaps, 66-51; LOST to Rhodes, 56-58
#2537UW-Whitewater20-5won at UW-Oshkosh, 85-50; won at #18 UW-River Falls, 67-61


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2635Johns Hopkins22-3def. Franklin and Marshall, 68-40; def. Bryn Mawr, 74-26
#2723Messiah21-4won at Alvernia, 65-48; won at Widener, 56-49; def. Elizabethtown, 63-57
#2819Thomas More21-4def. St. Vincent, 68-59; def. Chatham, 77-60
#2911Williams19-6LOST at #31 Colby, 59-61
#309Muhlenberg20-5won at Haverford, 60-52; won at Ursinus, 61-56
#318Colby19-6LOST at #17 Babson, 59-65; def. #29 Williams, 61-59
#327Rhode Island College22-3def. Western Connecticut, 66-38; def. Keene State, 62-54
#336Ithaca21-4won at Utica, 46-40
T#344Concordia (Texas)20-4won at Texas Lutheran, 76-61; won at Schreiner, 60-48
T#344Tufts20-5def. Connecticut College, 57-40
T#363Buffalo State23-2won at Fredonia State, 67-51; won at Oswego State, 71-61; won at Cortland State, 73-67
T#363Ferrum20-5def. Mary Baldwin, 101-59; LOST at North Carolina Wesleyan, 69-73
#382Howard Payne20-5LOST at McMurry, 42-60; LOST at Hardin-Simmons, 76-81
T#391Greensboro21-4def. Allen, 84-59; won at Averett, 68-63; def. Shenandoah, 66-50
T#391Mount St. Mary22-3def. NYU-Poly, 64-43; def. Farmingdale State, 64-60
T#391Ohio Northern20-5won at Wilmington, 64-46; LOST at Baldwin-Wallace, 65-70
T#391Southern Maine20-5def. Plymouth State, 74-52; won at Mass-Dartmouth, 75-71
T#391York (Pa.)21-4def. Wesley, 85-46; won at Salisbury, 62-51

Darryl Nester

How They Fared (So Far)

Not many results, but perhaps useful to see what is coming this weekend.

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1619Amherst25-002/25 vs. T#39 Colby
#2602Chicago24-002/25 vs. #9 Washington U.
#3579George Fox25-002/23 vs. Puget Sound
#4543DePauw24-1def. Oberlin, 76-38; 02/24 vs. Wittenberg
#5519Calvin23-102/23 vs. St. Mary's (Ind.)
#6476Mount Union24-102/23 vs. Capital
#7459Lewis and Clark23-202/23 vs. Whitman
#8453Mary Washington25-0IDLE
#9399Washington U.20-402/25 at #2 Chicago
#10379Juniata25-1def. Moravian, 71-60; 02/25 vs. Catholic
#11368William Paterson24-2def. Rutgers-Newark, 56-49; 02/24 at #24 Kean
#12348UW-Stevens Point21-4IDLE
#13297St. Thomas24-102/23 vs. St. Mary's (Minn.)
#14272Babson23-202/25 vs. Wellesley
#15256Franklin23-202/25 vs. TBA
#16230UW-Eau Claire20-502/23 vs. #23 UW-Whitewater; 02/25 at TBD
#17191Illinois Wesleyan20-502/24 vs. Millikin
#18158Hope21-402/23 vs. Albion
#19149Rochester19-502/25 vs. Emory
#20140Lebanon Valley23-3def. Elizabethtown, 69-47; 02/25 vs. Widener
#21123UW-River Falls21-5def. UW-La Crosse, 64-55
#22121Louisiana College22-3def. Mississippi College, 102-75; 02/24 vs. Hardin-Simmons
#23119UW-Whitewater21-5def. UW-Superior, 92-55; 02/23 at #16 UW-Eau Claire
#24104Kean22-4def. Montclair State, 76-68; 02/24 vs. #11 William Paterson
#2587Johns Hopkins22-302/24 vs. Haverford


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2634Messiah21-5LOST to Widener, 58-60
#2723Thomas More22-4def. Grove City, 70-47; 02/24 vs. Bethany
#2813Ithaca21-402/24 vs. St. John Fisher
#299Rhode Island College22-302/24 vs. Western Connecticut
T#308Buffalo State24-2def. Fredonia State, 64-56; 02/24 vs. Cortland State
T#308Centre21-302/24 vs. Hendrix
T#308Tufts20-502/25 vs. Bowdoin
T#336Greensboro22-4def. Averett, 80-60; 02/24 at Christopher Newport
T#336Southern Maine20-502/24 vs. Keene State
T#336York (Pa.)21-402/23 vs. Salisbury; 02/25 vs. TBD
#365Muhlenberg20-502/24 at Franklin and Marshall
T#373Concordia-Austin20-402/24 at University of the Ozarks
T#373Occidental22-302/23 vs. Cal Lutheran
T#391Colby19-602/25 at #1 Amherst
T#391Simpson20-502/23 vs. Wartburg; 02/25 at TBD

BigMac

#8 Mary Washington play tonight Vs. Marymount in the semi-finals of the CAC tournament. Not sure why this is not posted. CAC Championship is on sat. 2/26 at the high seed

Darryl Nester

Quote from: BigMac on February 23, 2012, 11:03:22 AM
#8 Mary Washington play tonight Vs. Marymount in the semi-finals of the CAC tournament. Not sure why this is not posted. CAC Championship is on sat. 2/26 at the high seed

I should have said:  This list only includes those games that have been added to the d3hoops.com database.  For example, UW-Stevens Point is also not really "IDLE" this week; they play UWRF tonight. There are probably other games that are not included; I would expect that most teams that have a single game listed will have at least one more game this week should they win.

Pat Coleman

One would think that since the CAC is a PrestoSports conference that they would put their own games in the system!
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BlueZoneBruin

Pat,

Is there a spot on the site that you currently have a "who's in" list for the AQs?

sumfun

Might as well get the discussion going.  One D3 poll has Calvin #1....I read on one of these posts.  Massey has IWU, Geo. Fox, Amherst, Wisc - St. Point, and Calvin #1 through #5.  D3Hoops women's poll ought to be out any day now.  Any thoughts/comments?

Pat Coleman

It'll be next Thursday or Friday for the women's Top 25, just as a heads-up.
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sumfun

Thanks, Pat.  We'll all look forward to the Poll.

bballfan13

Quote from: sumfun on October 17, 2012, 07:21:50 PM
Might as well get the discussion going.  One D3 poll has Calvin #1....I read on one of these posts.  Massey has IWU, Geo. Fox, Amherst, Wisc - St. Point, and Calvin #1 through #5.  D3Hoops women's poll ought to be out any day now.  Any thoughts/comments?

Yes, the D3 news poll has Calvin at #1.  The rest of the top 5 in that poll are George Fox, Stevens Point, IWU, St. Thomas.

Question about the Masssey poll.  I thought it was based only on numbers.  How does Massey rank in the preseason?