Great Lakes Region

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wooscotsfan

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 02, 2019, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 01, 2019, 03:58:11 PM
Schedule for the GL tonight:
Baldwin Wallace vs Salisbury (Mid-Atlantic) @ Oswego St 5:30pm 75-61
Wittenberg vs Emory (South) @ Guilford 5:30pm 100-88
Hanover vs Wheaton (IL) (Central) @ Wooster 5:30pm 73-84
Albion vs Loras (West) @ North Central 6:30pm 64-75
Capital vs UW-Platteville (Central) @ Augustana 6:30pm 78-76 OT
Penn St-Behrend @ Hamilton (Northeast) 7:30pm 70-72
Wooster vs Baruch (Atlantic) 7:30pm 81-57
Marietta vs Maryville (South) 8:00pm 101-77
Chatham @ North Central (Central) 8:30pm 48-77

No Great Lakes teams face each other and every region is represented except for the East.
5-4 record in the first round

Baldwin Wallace @ Oswego St (East) 7:00pm
Wooster vs Wheaton (Central) 7:00pm
Wittenberg @ Guilford (South) 7:00pm
Marietta vs Arcadia (Mid-Atlantic) 7:00pm
Capital @ Augustana (Central) 7:00pm

To dissect that GL first round record further:

OAC 3-0
NCAC 2-0
MIAA 0-1
HCAC 0-1
PAC 0-1
AMCC 0-1

The OAC and NCAC continue to be the two best conferences in the region.  ;)

kiltedbryan

Quote from: wooscotsfan on March 02, 2019, 12:59:23 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 02, 2019, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 01, 2019, 03:58:11 PM
Schedule for the GL tonight:
Baldwin Wallace vs Salisbury (Mid-Atlantic) @ Oswego St 5:30pm 75-61
Wittenberg vs Emory (South) @ Guilford 5:30pm 100-88
Hanover vs Wheaton (IL) (Central) @ Wooster 5:30pm 73-84
Albion vs Loras (West) @ North Central 6:30pm 64-75
Capital vs UW-Platteville (Central) @ Augustana 6:30pm 78-76 OT
Penn St-Behrend @ Hamilton (Northeast) 7:30pm 70-72
Wooster vs Baruch (Atlantic) 7:30pm 81-57
Marietta vs Maryville (South) 8:00pm 101-77
Chatham @ North Central (Central) 8:30pm 48-77

No Great Lakes teams face each other and every region is represented except for the East.
5-4 record in the first round

Baldwin Wallace @ Oswego St (East) 7:00pm
Wooster vs Wheaton (Central) 7:00pm
Wittenberg @ Guilford (South) 7:00pm
Marietta vs Arcadia (Mid-Atlantic) 7:00pm
Capital @ Augustana (Central) 7:00pm

To dissect that GL first round record further:

OAC 3-0
NCAC 2-0
MIAA 0-1
HCAC 0-1
PAC 0-1
AMCC 0-1

The OAC and NCAC continue to be the two best conferences in the region.  ;)

Here's to rooting for an all-Ohio, all-OAC/NCAC Section Finals from (presumably) Ban Johnson Arena next weekend!

Fifth and Putnam

Quote from: kiltedbryan on March 02, 2019, 01:09:38 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on March 02, 2019, 12:59:23 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 02, 2019, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 01, 2019, 03:58:11 PM
Schedule for the GL tonight:
Baldwin Wallace vs Salisbury (Mid-Atlantic) @ Oswego St 5:30pm 75-61
Wittenberg vs Emory (South) @ Guilford 5:30pm 100-88
Hanover vs Wheaton (IL) (Central) @ Wooster 5:30pm 73-84
Albion vs Loras (West) @ North Central 6:30pm 64-75
Capital vs UW-Platteville (Central) @ Augustana 6:30pm 78-76 OT
Penn St-Behrend @ Hamilton (Northeast) 7:30pm 70-72
Wooster vs Baruch (Atlantic) 7:30pm 81-57
Marietta vs Maryville (South) 8:00pm 101-77
Chatham @ North Central (Central) 8:30pm 48-77

No Great Lakes teams face each other and every region is represented except for the East.
5-4 record in the first round

Baldwin Wallace @ Oswego St (East) 7:00pm
Wooster vs Wheaton (Central) 7:00pm
Wittenberg @ Guilford (South) 7:00pm
Marietta vs Arcadia (Mid-Atlantic) 7:00pm
Capital @ Augustana (Central) 7:00pm

To dissect that GL first round record further:

OAC 3-0
NCAC 2-0
MIAA 0-1
HCAC 0-1
PAC 0-1
AMCC 0-1

The OAC and NCAC continue to be the two best conferences in the region.  ;)

Here's to rooting for an all-Ohio, all-OAC/NCAC Section Finals from (presumably) Ban Johnson Arena next weekend!

I really think Wooster, Etta, and BW have great shots to get to the 2nd weekend tonight. If Capital can pull off the upset in Rock Island tonight, you could have 4 Great Lakers battling it out next weekend to go to Fort Wayne. I think all 4 would be happy with that scenario and each would feel like they could get through.

Marietta would be in the seat to host as they would be the highest regionally ranked team in the group. Lot of basketball tonight to play though before we get into this discussion.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

No. Wooster would be the lead to host because the trip from Augustana to Marietta is 604 miles. To Wooster is right on the 500 mile radius and may give the committee the ability to bus over flight.
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 02, 2019, 04:17:30 PM
No. Wooster would be the lead to host because the trip from Augustana to Marietta is 604 miles. To Wooster is right on the 500 mile radius and may give the committee the ability to bus over flight.

I think that he's talking about the four-GL-teams scenario -- Baldwin-Wallace, Capital, Marietta, Wooster -- that he mentioned in the first paragraph.
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Flying Dutch Fan

Sorry for the rant, but for years it has amazed me that following the completion of the first round games there is so much talk on these boards about who is going to host the regionals, rather than discussion about the games to get to the regionals.  And yes, D3 has limitations about hosting due to travel costs and a 500 mile "rule". But it's been that way for years, and will probably be for many more.

How about some thoughts or insights on the matchups, or anything about the actual games?

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FCGrizzliesGrad

#2316
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on March 02, 2019, 05:19:48 PM
Sorry for the rant, but for years it has amazed me that following the completion of the first round games there is so much talk on these boards about who is going to host the regionals, rather than discussion about the games to get to the regionals.  And yes, D3 has limitations about hosting due to travel costs and a 500 mile "rule". But it's been that way for years, and will probably be for many more.

How about some thoughts or insights on the matchups, or anything about the actual games?
As someone whose team is never involved I don't worry about 2nd weekend hosting until we reach that point. Too much going on Friday and Saturday to deal with potential hosting duties. If your team has a possibility to host I can understand a little discussion but it does get a bit overwhelming.

I'll take BW, Wooster, Witt, and Marietta to win tonight with Capital losing.

My picks are:
Pomona-Pitzer upsetting Whitman
Williams over Gwynedd Mercy
Chris Newport over Alfred
Hamilton over Moravian
Amherst over Rochester
Nichols edging Rowan
Swarthmore over MIT
Randolph-Macon over York (PA)
Nebraska Wesleyan over St Thomas
Wittenberg knocking off Guilford
UW-Oshkosh over Northwestern
Loras over North Central
Augustana over Capital
Wooster over Wheaton
Marietta over Arcadia
Baldwin Wallace beating Oswego
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2x: HCAC, MIAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

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KnightSlappy

#2317
Here's a visual of how the Great Lakes region stacks up by my efficiency ratings as we approach the new year. The numbers can be interpreted as number of points better or worse than an average Division III team per 100 possessions. I tried to group teams together across conferences if they were within ~1 point of efficiency margin. For context, home court advantage is worth about 5 points of efficiency margin.

(Click image to embiggen.)


Fifth and Putnam

The 4th annual Great Lakes Invitational will take place November 20-21, 2020 back on the campus of Marietta College.

The 2020 Field:
Great Lakes: Marietta, Wilmington, La Roche, Wabash
Outside: St. Thomas, Whitman, Emory, Randolph Macon

https://pioneers.marietta.edu/news/2019/12/27/great-lakes-invitational-returns-to-ban-johnson-arena-in-2020.aspx

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Host of Hoopsville. USBWA Executive Board member. Broadcast Director for D3sports.com. Broadcaster for NCAA.com & several colleges. PA Announcer for Gophers & Brigade. Follow me on Twitter: @davemchugh or @d3hoopsville.

KnightSlappy

Predicting the second set of Regional Rankings in the GL:

1. Mount Union, .870 / .545 / 6-0
2. Wittenberg, .957 / 0.495 / 2-1
3. Marietta, .826 / .534 / 4-3
4. Wooster, .739 / .560 / 4-3
5. Albion, .826 / .533 / 0-2
6. Wabash, .696 / .539 / 1-4
7. John Carroll, .652 / .517 / 2-3
8. Pitt-Greensburg, .833 / .473 / 0-0
9. Hanover, .682 / .502 / 1-1

Dropping Out?
Transylvania, .652 / .512 / 0-3

In the mix?
La Roche, .739 / .471 / 1-0



FCGrizzliesGrad

With the way the HCAC has beat itself up I'm surprised anyone is still in the conversation of getting ranked.
Football picker extraordinaire
5 titles: CCIW, NJAC
4x: ODAC:S
3x: ASC, IIAC, MIAA:S, NACC:S, NCAC, OAC:P, Nat'l
2x: HCAC, MIAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

Basketball
2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem

Baldini

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on February 18, 2020, 07:59:47 PM
With the way the HCAC has beat itself up I'm surprised anyone is still in the conversation of getting ranked.

It has been a great season in the HCAC with so much balance, but agree that it does not make for good regional rankings conversation.

sac

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 18, 2020, 04:12:39 PM
Predicting the second set of Regional Rankings in the GL:

1. Mount Union, .870 / .545 / 6-0
2. Wittenberg, .957 / 0.495 / 2-1
3. Marietta, .826 / .534 / 4-3
4. Wooster, .739 / .560 / 4-3
5. Albion, .826 / .533 / 0-2
6. Wabash, .696 / .539 / 1-4
7. John Carroll, .652 / .517 / 2-3
8. Pitt-Greensburg, .833 / .473 / 0-0
9. Hanover, .682 / .502 / 1-1

Dropping Out?
Transylvania, .652 / .512 / 0-3

In the mix?
La Roche, .739 / .471 / 1-0

I'd rather see Marietta ahead of Wittenberg. 



Anyone after 4 seems like a place holder.   Albion's an iffy Pool C if they don't win the MIAA.    A very shallow region this year.

Fifth and Putnam

Quote from: sac on February 18, 2020, 11:24:55 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 18, 2020, 04:12:39 PM
Predicting the second set of Regional Rankings in the GL:

1. Mount Union, .870 / .545 / 6-0
2. Wittenberg, .957 / 0.495 / 2-1
3. Marietta, .826 / .534 / 4-3
4. Wooster, .739 / .560 / 4-3
5. Albion, .826 / .533 / 0-2
6. Wabash, .696 / .539 / 1-4
7. John Carroll, .652 / .517 / 2-3
8. Pitt-Greensburg, .833 / .473 / 0-0
9. Hanover, .682 / .502 / 1-1

Dropping Out?
Transylvania, .652 / .512 / 0-3

In the mix?
La Roche, .739 / .471 / 1-0

I'd rather see Marietta ahead of Wittenberg. 



Anyone after 4 seems like a place holder.   Albion's an iffy Pool C if they don't win the MIAA.    A very shallow region this year.

Marietta and Wittenberg will be very close in my mind. Does the SOS and rRRO for Marietta overturn the WP% advantage Wittenberg has.