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Title: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on March 04, 2005, 06:09:59 PM
TimFlynn, Pitt-Bradford hasn't been totally shy about scheduling tough opponents. In fact, two years ago, they played, and beat, a ranked Division II team, Clarion, on the road. They've also played Wooster, Scranton, St. John Fisher and other top programs in recent years. Ultimately, I guess, the answer is for the AMCC to get better, from top to bottom.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Tim Flynn on March 04, 2005, 10:07:11 PM
I stand corrected.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on March 06, 2005, 04:41:32 PM
Tim, no reason to stand corrected.

Does anyone have any rooting interest in the tournament now? I'm pulling for unbeaten St. John Fisher, a team in our neck of the woods (sort of). Pitt-Bradford beat them a few years ago at home and played them to the bitter end on the road at the beginning of last season (03-04). So if SJF were to win it all, it should make the idea of winning a national championship seem just a bit more attainable, not only to Pitt-Bradford but to all of the teams in the AMCC.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cash$$$ on March 07, 2005, 12:57:02 PM
truth be told, stewart-smith had the worst shot selection in the games i seen him play...kiifer b*tches to the officials constantly why wouldnt i say he is a cry baby....all you people have no idea what im talking about because you are not on the court, you sit back and preech....o and i definitely believe there are more deserving players to be honored than smith, and o yea i almost forgot, he plays GREAT defense too..HA!....o well im done with the talk on that so ill wait to read what you "critics" write in response to this 1
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ballfan on March 07, 2005, 09:49:46 PM
Your rambling doesn't warrent any response except for 1...SOUR GRAPES  from a player apparently that didn't get his "supposive" dues...could that have hit a nerve...so that's all I have to say on that subject and we'll see what u have to say on that 1
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: stu23 on March 07, 2005, 09:56:30 PM
good point, ballfan - cash $$$ must be a true benchwarmer who is just plain mad at everyone but lake erie players! again, take a look at the stats - no need to say anything else except it is obvious it is sour grapes, get over it!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: stu23 on March 07, 2005, 10:06:07 PM
by the way, cash - what are you even talking about? you obviously are talking about two games, lake erie at home, lake erie away. At home for you, Ethan had 10 pts, reggie had 14 - I'll admit that was his great game with 14 assists  but you're hung up on shooting. At Penn State Altoona, Ethan and Reggie's stats were almost identical except Ethan had 24 Reggie 23!!! Both had 3 assists. Maybe next year will be a better year for you and you won't be so angry.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cash$$$ on March 08, 2005, 03:18:04 PM
1st off, i am a starter but i am graduating, not exactly sour, just a tad frustrated, i suppose the teams that played against altoona he must have made "smart decisions" against, however, in the 2 meetings against my squad the kid put up the worst shot selection i have ever seen, horrible passing, not to mention, the rest of his team is garbage cept for franklin who is hands down the best player in the AMCC so smith was counted on to take more shots, however most of them put up in games against my team were ridiculous, 2ndly, never have i bad mouthed richardson, who in my eyes can stroke on any given night, kid is lightning quick and plays smothering defense.....so benchwarmer? i think not
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: d-mac on March 08, 2005, 04:42:50 PM
Basketball in Division III at this time of year... is so SWEET!!!
32 teams still have a chance at two national titles... and many teams weren't expected to get this far.
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Wooster, Wittenburg, and Illinois Wesleyan are out of the men's bracket!
So, who in the world is still left in the Men's Road to Salem?
Well... UW-Stevens Point, Amherst, and St. John Fisher.

Trinity (TX) is still alive. Most thought they would be playing IWU on Friday night, instead they face Hanover. Tonight, we will chat with Coach Pat Cunningham about his Tigers. Their road to the Final Four is going to be a tough one.

Then there is John Carrol, who defeated Wittenburg to earn their Sweet 16 berth. Coach Mike Moran seems to have his Blue Streaks team clicking on all the right cylinders, having won the OAC before their run in the NCAA's. We will chat with Coach Moran about his upcoming game against Albion... who got by on what some say is a questionable win over Wooster.

On the women's side, not too many upsets, even though DePauw and Buena Vista were eliminated on their Road to Virginia Beach.

Wesleyan continues to surprise as they took out Staten Island to earn their Sweet 16 game against Springfield. Coach Kate Mullen will join us live on the air to talk about how this season's finish isn't what the Cardinals planned on... and how they're looking to keep dancing.

George Fox will be earning a lot of frequent flyer miles this weekend. Coach Scott Rueck has his Bruins playing very good basketball and will take on St. Benedict, who upset Buena Vista. But how are the Bruins going to handle flying across the entire length of the nation for the game(s)... we will ask Coach Rueck.

And Salem is getting ready for their tenth Men's Final Four. ODAC Commissioner Brad Bankston will join us live on the air to let us know how the preparations are going. How you can get tickets! And what else you can expect and should do while in the great city of Salem (and Roanoke), Virginia.

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Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: dballer30 on March 08, 2005, 06:53:07 PM
I didn't see too many games but from what I've seen I really didn't think Tyler Franklin was the best player in the AMCC.  He can ball but when you go from best players like Beacom, Curren, Bowery, Ayers, etc. Franklin's really not close to them guys.  He's not up there within Altoona if you ask me.  TJ King was really good and so was Eugene Ahmad.  Franklin can play, but from what I've heard Conlon did it all, and I know for a fact that he can play.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: dballer30 on March 08, 2005, 06:55:33 PM
Just got some news that the Duke Cooper kid is a player too.  I haven't seen him play but I do know alot of players who've played against him and say he's the real deal
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: d on March 08, 2005, 07:05:56 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
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Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
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Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
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Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ballfan on March 08, 2005, 09:44:54 PM
dballer..you're right..and one other that you  missed of Altoona's players is Brandon Battles..now that kid was the whole package..Watched him play for four years and every year he improved his game..had a sweet shot from about 15' and hard to guard..my son normally in the later years had that pleasure after Beacom left...But I give him alot of credit, Brandon was a great player and a credit to the DIII programs..you mentioned alot of great players and I had the pleasure of watching them all play...so thanks for bringing back some memories..I miss this game

Stu23...good luck to Ethan...he will be a senior right?  if so, you enjoy and have a great senior year..it is tough after its over..still going through withdrawal
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: stu23 on March 10, 2005, 02:31:38 PM
Cash$$$ - I find it hard to believe that you are a starter - real players don't diss others by calling them garbage - unless they're "garbage" themselves - my point in comparing Ethan and Reggie was made since you were criticising Ethan's shot - thier stats were very close both games.

Ballfan - yes, he'll be a senior and thanks for the nice wishes - I feel withdrawal aready!!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cash$$$ on March 10, 2005, 03:55:46 PM
SEAN KENNEY signing off
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ballfan on March 10, 2005, 08:59:33 PM
Ok..now we know your name..and understand that you did play ball for Hilbert.  I know that we played @ Hilbert my sons senior year. Now that was 2 years ago so my memory isnt real fresh. I am not good with remembering every player from the other team..do remember Gioia...
but this is the first year year for you to be in the AMCC..so thats a short period of time to make judgement about players that you might have seen only twice..In my opinion.

Stu23...well I will keep an eye on the teams next year too...we arent that far from Altoona, you never know we might head over to a game next season..Good Luck to you..and you are right about one thing, most players don't talk to much trash on places like this about others..now on the court thats a totally different story..
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hoopstar on March 11, 2005, 12:26:41 AM
the all-conference teams were completely fair... Conlon was the best player, he did everything..scoring, rebounding, assists, and defense..just a solid player..... and all the other selections were warranted....stewart-smith's stats were very good and definetely he showed up down the stretch ...franklin also a great player, not the best in the league, but defeintely a solid player....to Cash$$$ sorry you didnt make the team, if you are indeed sean kenney, you had a good season, but playing for hilbert (below average team) and a new amcc team doesnt fit well into the conference all-stars, and also, your stats dont match up
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cash$$$ on March 11, 2005, 01:00:18 PM
below average teams dont beat teams higher than themselves in the standings(frostburg, pitt-brad, la roche) get another argument, stats dont tell the whole story either, yea i only played against altoona twice but i gathered enough information from those 2 games to make the argument that smith isnt a quality player, maybe he took "good" shots against other teams but he was taking fade away jumpers that didnt even hit rim against hilbert...next?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ballfan on March 12, 2005, 12:41:02 AM
Well as far as your argument that below average teams dont beat those higher in the standings is not a very good one either...in most conference play any team has the chance in winning no matter what their standings..as far as stats not telling the whole story, now there I agree with you.. I havent seen your team since like I said prior, since the season before when we played @ Hilbert and my son was a senior...
as for Smith and quality of his play, he might not be a flashy player but in the 3 years I watched him play..(seeing him 6 times)  he usually got alot of time bc of his hussle, something that you cant teach and doesnt show up on stats either,,,(your argument not mine)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: justafanofthegame on March 12, 2005, 02:14:18 AM
Kenney, you are a fat bum, I can't believe you come on here and try and pump yourself up. you had a few good games this year, you are trash. Gioia made your team go, along with the other guard you did nothing spectacular to warrant any all-conference mentions so go snack on a couple hot dogs fatty and good luck in the towndawanda recreational leagues.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: George Allen on March 12, 2005, 05:20:45 AM
That's enough of the personal attacks.  This whole board has gotten out of hand.  Granted, everyone has their own opinion, and sometimes their opinion may be different than that of the majority.  But there is absolutely no need to flat out call somebody out and say they're garbage, when you yourself probably could not guard that person nor do anything in particular to warrant your trash talk.

Hilbert had a very overacheiving year.  Give the team credit.  And they did finish above PS-Altoona, so give the kid a little bit of respect in that regard.  Both Kenney and Stewart-Smith are solid D3 players that deserved accolades.  Because one didn't get any and is frustrated does not mean that there needs to be personal attacks on him.

FWIW, somebody that thinks Gioia made the team go is wrong.  There were many unforced shots, and blunders that slowed the team down.  Is Gioia a player?  Of course he is.  You don't average 17 ppg on accident, or score 1,000 pts. in a career.  But you obviously did not see the team enough to warrant the judgement that he "made the team".  

Get a life, and no personal attacks please.  It's uncalled for, and frankly not a very nice thing to do.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ballfan on March 12, 2005, 11:55:36 AM
Well said Mr Allen...but first off I think that you should address Mr Kenney when making that statement..he came on here in attack mode..first Stewart-Smith then Aaron Kifer..so if we came on here and defended our team or players, its just a natural thing..and I think that alot of times, ppl who come on here forget that there are parents that come on here too and read all the "garbage" that we throw, and I for one as sorry for that..(i have posted a few that I am not proud of)...being a parent of a player myself in this conference I should have understood that...
but i digress..

Now on to the tourney..very surprised that St John Fisher lost..but they had a great run this season...and I did have the opportunity to see them play a few times since UPB did play them...so I am impressed with that..
so good luck to all in DIII tourney and I look forward to tomorrow and selection sunday
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: justafanofthegame on March 12, 2005, 11:37:51 PM
"Mr" Allen first off maybe you have not seen hilbert play enough to actually see what is what, i get paid to see what is what in the game of basketball, do you? For two if you have been on the board long enough, i have been praising hilbert's effort's all year long and Sean was a big reason that team had the success they had, it frustrates me to see players come on here and bad mouth other players to try and make themselves look better. If credit is deserved the voting process takes care of it for the most part. sure players get screwed but thats life.  And by the way I have seen most D-1, D-2, D-3,NAIA, and JC colleges in the region play thats what I do, and i have seen Hilbert play numerous times in the last 8 or so years.  So when opposing teams whole defensive concept is to try and put wraps on one player (Gioia) thats what i mean by making the team go, how many games did Hilbert win this year when Sam had a bad night "Mr" Allen? By the way as  far as player potential Gioia has the ability to play somewhere at the next level as do many players in this league and many other leagues in D3 but Sean Kenney does not.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on March 13, 2005, 01:07:32 AM
I'm ticked off! The University at Buffalo lost in the final half second of overtime, spoiling my trivia question which I will ask anyway. What NCAA Division I tournament team this year has played at least two members of the AMCC? UB, back in the 80s when it was a member of Division III. That program has made a huge jump. It's great to see Reggie Witherspoon winning after the mess he inherited. Hopefully Bona is on the path to that kind of success, too.

Don't you love the luck of Buffalo sports teams in championship games?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ballfan on March 13, 2005, 12:01:12 PM
Boy, what a saturday in college basketball...first off I am really disappointed that Pitt wasnt in the finals..second team UNC lost to GT..but watch for them in the tourney coming on strong and I will have to rout for them against Duke, I can not for the life of me rout for Duke at all...and what about all the close games..Wisconsin at the buzzer and then Louisville pulls out a close one..but can someone tell me why Garcia would even try and block that one?  Gotta hurt for Washington Jr. to miss those free throws..its every players dream to win a game and then every players nightmare to have that happen.  But he will bounce back he is only a freshman and hopefully hang around to continue the college game.

so Selection Sunday!  Wow you gotta love March...

UPB88...that was a tough one for Buffalo..
they must have some kinda curse in that city
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cash$$$ on March 15, 2005, 07:15:17 AM
hot dogs? haha..by the way no where in any argument did i "pump" myself up, i just stated some possible arguments that warrented exactly what i expected-solid debates, enough said, but hey anotherfanofthegame..do you play or do you sit in the stands because you never "could" play the game?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cash$$$ on March 15, 2005, 09:35:02 AM
i have posted some things i am not proud of either, so in doing so i apologize, good points all around, i just would like to know why jason peterson didnt recieve any looks as well as anthony perioli, possibly because 1 played limited games and the other because he played with a poor supporting cast? comments anotherfanofthegame? trash talk set aside of course
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: justafanofthegame on March 15, 2005, 05:10:11 PM
Sean as i have said all season I do believe you had alot to do with the success of your team this year and it was a great turn around from previous years of action, hopefully Hilbert is on their way up in this division for years to come but both Gioia and your shoes are not going to be easily filled, especially yours not so much from extremely overtalented but the relationship you and Coach Rob have had now for a while. As far as peterson I think he is a very talented player but the simple point of only playing in 17 games probaly hurt his chances some.  As far as Perioli I was down on him earlier this year too, when he came on the board talking smack, but in all honesty he really didn't have much of a supporting cast better yet he had No supporting cast at all, the team this year really missed Smith and A. Gioia from last years team. I really don't know what happened to either but Smith was a very good player and Perioli sure could have used Gioia because they badly needed another guard to help him out and the coaches son surely wasn't the answer. Plus Bryant was an absolute bust this year, but a new coach can have bad affects on players that aren't their own (meaning that they did not recruit them). Whatever happened with that program no one knows but 0-25  after winning a conference championship the year before is almost humorous.  In all honesty I believe that you deserved more of a look at all-conference than Jason or Anthony because a kid like you who worked hard without much of a supporting cast yourself and actually had a very good year (ECAC player of the week) should have got  a look. And yes I played but now my playing days are long over and I can simply critique the games of current players.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hoopstar on March 15, 2005, 06:50:31 PM
Petersen didnt get any looks because he was kicked off the team for illegal drug use...and only played 17 games, so that is a let down to his team, and certainly not all-conference worthy...peioli..he is an average player on a horrible team...two things working against him...i'd say the players with a reasonable chance who got left off were kenney, dan thomas from bradford, clint mullen from greensburg, and robert williams from lake erie
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: justafanofthegame on March 15, 2005, 10:20:08 PM
Hoopstar..I would agree with you on most of what you said, not once did I say Perioli was a stud by any means, I just gave the reasons why his team was possibly the worst in the nation while, they should h.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hoopstar on March 16, 2005, 10:57:18 AM
Fan ~ yeah i understand, i wasn't tryin to rebut you or anything, i was just giving an opinion to cash's comments...i know your whole argument, sorry if it looked like i was coming at you!! or coming at anyone for that matter
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hoopstar on March 16, 2005, 11:05:59 AM
By the way...did anyone see the all-region teams...Greensburg's Kevin Conlon was a third-team all great lakes region selection....thats a great honor for a young man who had a fine career in this conference...I've talked to many in this conference...coaches and players...who all agree that Conlon is not only a great player but a great kid..so congrats to him
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: justafanofthegame on March 16, 2005, 11:28:57 AM
No i didn't take it like that at all, sorry if it sounded that way
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ballfan on March 16, 2005, 11:21:35 PM
Let me add my congratulations to Kevin Conlon..nice to see him get recognized..and he is only 45 mins from here..his hometown that is

So the tournaments have started...
NIT action first...and Vandy over Indiana..who have to wonder what Coach Davis fate will be>
anyone watch the Town Meeting tonight on ESPN regarding paying student athletes?  What a joke...You have coaches and AD and the president of the NCAA..some players and the representative of the collegiate athletes...well at one point and I will try to be brief..Myles Brand...NCAA pres, and President of IU.(coach knights old boss) made a comment that only about 12 DivI schools where operating in the black!!! that they made very little money off college athletics..I am not an economists but if he is teaching that class at IU, then those students are in trouble..

I am curious how everyone else here feels about paying student athletes..anyone want to weigh in?  Me i am in favor of paying them what they do those students that have work study ie:  library aids...etc
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ballfan on March 26, 2005, 10:21:00 AM
So the NCAA Elite 8 are set!  What a night of college basketball...Duke gone...UNC well they hung in there with a very strong Villanove team..gotta love those Big East players...I see Kentucky won too!
so that makes today and tomorrow pretty interesting in the game of basketball..
me my pool picks are almost done...I have UNC winning it all but the Duke loss made my Final 4 done
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: I know my ABCs and 123s! on April 27, 2005, 09:59:05 PM
Six charged in Frostburg field hockey hazing. One hospitalized with blood-alcohol level of 0.365  
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2048184
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Husky40 on September 21, 2005, 08:43:30 AM
New to the board and would like to get some information about Frostburg State men's basketball.  What information can posters offer about the program, team, recruits, and coach.  If someone is a 6'3" combo guard with very good skills and plays best in a system and is looking at attending FSU next year, is there anything one can offer about playing basketball there?  How does FSU compare to other D3 schools such as Hood College, Mary Washington, Salisbury,  York, Shenandoak, Christoher Newport, and two D2 schools - Davis & Elkins and Bloomsburg U?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on September 29, 2005, 10:40:03 PM
Husky whats up

I was a recruit for frostburg for this upcoming season but decided to attend another school in nj.  I was told by coach hatch and the assistants at the time brown/saunders that I was one of their top three recruits.  Anything you need to know please feel free to im me or email me.  aim- zonescantstopme   yahoo- sincereballa15  and i will tell you everything I know.  I am even familiar with alot of the returning players from playing against them in junior college on my recruiting trip and just random areas.  I also played with alot of the recruits in the summer.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: FSU Bobcats on October 30, 2005, 01:59:55 AM
The hazing incident at FSU is certainly bad press, and not really surprising since I'm an alum.

FSU has had some bad alchol related incidents.  A few Greek organizations have been kicked off of the campus because of alcohol-related incidents and I knew a few athletes who told me some really unbelieveable stories.

I think it's something that goes on at a lot of schools, but that doesn't mean it's right.

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: NewportPlayer3 on November 13, 2005, 04:15:23 PM
Whos looking good for the AMCC champs.....


watch out for altoona
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: BOKNOWSBBALL on November 21, 2005, 08:01:05 PM
Just wanted to see who was looking good this weekend in their tip off tourneys?

I saw Behrend play and they looked strong with two pretty good wins over favorable opponents.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on December 02, 2005, 06:41:18 PM
Conference play opens up this weekend.  Lets take a look at where everyone is at.

Lake Erie - Coming off an impressive victory over D2 Edinboro, the Storm head north to take on Medaille and Hilbert, both of which should be easy victories.  Lake Erie is led by conference Preseason Player of the Year Jajcen Harris, and his 7.5 pts and 4.5 rebounds.  The backcourt of Richardson and Williams with Washington off the bench is as good as there is in D3. 

LaRoche will also make the trip up to Buffalo this weekend.  Sophomore sensation Devin Taylor, the AMCC newcomer of the year last season, has not played in the Redhawks first two games.  If he sits out this weekend, LaRoche will have to rely on a mainly perimeter attack led by senior Stacey Grady, averaging 19.0 pts/gm.

Medaille is again struggling this year, and are winless in its last 28 games.  James McNeil is averaging 22.3 ppg, but is also averaging 23 attempts per game as well.  Look for the Mavs to continue their losing ways.  They are getting better, though.

The Hawks of Hilbert have been competitive in their first three games, losing in overtime at Hobart and on a buzzer beater at Keuka.  Hilbert, coming off a surprising 10 win season a year ago, have received some nice production from a pair of newcomers inside.  Corey VanderSluis is averaging 16.0 and 7.3 boards and Ron Dussett is contributing 7.3 and 7.7.  I believe they have a good chance to beat LaRoche on Friday, but will have its hands full on Saturday.

Penn State Behrend takes its unblemished record on the road to Frostburg State and Pitt-Greensburg.  6-7 center Kevin Buczynski is a force down low for the Lions, and David Gahan gives the team a potent 1-2 punch down low. 

Frostburg State has played 5 games already this season and have been pretty successful thus far.  A quartet of players average in double-figures, led by Daniel Ryley's 17.0.  The Bobcats should beat Pitt-Bradford, but will have a tough time against the Behrend "system".

Greensburg also takes on Bradford and Behrend this weekend.  Losing last sesaon's POY Kevin Conlon has slowed the Bobcats down a bit, but they are still a dangerous bunch with Mr. Everything Duke Cooper running the show.  Cooper is averaging 15.8 points, 5.8 rebounds and 3.8 assists per contest, should contend for all-AMCC recognition and has a good shot at becoming the second consecutive Greensburg player voted MVP of the league.

Pitt Bradford enters conference play averaging a ridiculous 97.8 PPG as a team, as a result of facing both Marietta and Westminster, who like to play uptempo (think Aloysius).  Junior Ryan Race showed glimpses of his potential last season, but this year has exploded.  He leads the conference with a 27.6 scoring average, more than doubling his average of a year ago.  I'm not sold on Bradford yet, because they haven't really played anyone with a normal gameplan and won.  We shall see.

Mt. Aloysius and Penn State Altoona play in a matchup of impressive swing players.  Tyler Franklin and Roman Mims are two of the most talented players in the AMCC, and that matchup alone would be worth watching this game. 

Good luck to all schools.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on December 03, 2005, 10:18:01 AM
All right, we've got snow, conference games and botched predictions... it's basketball season!

Interesting analysis, Hawk, but you should  know there are few "should win" games in the AMCC. Nice win by Pitt-Bradford at FSU, putting the clamp on Ryley. UPB has no seniors but has a nice group of juniors and sophomores who are growing up together. They look improved from a year ago, despite a bunch of turnovers in the early going.

Hilbert smacking LaRoche pretty good is a bit of a surprise. Hopefully Hilbert is for real. The more good teams in the AMCC, the better.

And LEC beating a Division II team is reminiscent of Pitt-Bradford beating regionally ranked Clarion on the road a few years ago. UPB won the conference and made the national tournament that year.

Have fun at the games, everyone.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on December 03, 2005, 11:51:50 AM
upb88,

Nice win for you guys last night. 

I really believe that this year Frostburg and LaRoche are a bit down.  Frostburg had its two best players kicked off the team last season, and LaRoche is playing without its best player (don't know why).

Greensburg will be a big test today.

Hilbert has improved, and is in the same boat as Bradford.  They have no real contributions from any seniors, and have solid junior and sophomore classes.  Reinard can flat out score.  If they can get it together defensively, they can be top 5 in league this season IMO.

Lake Erie is the class of this league, IMO, and it will be interesting to see if they steamroll through like they should.  Behrend and Greensburg are tough, but if the Storm can use their athleticism to their advantage, they should be able to overtake them. 

They also have a tendency to take games off, but at the end of the day they should be at the top.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on December 04, 2005, 10:11:24 AM
Medaille breaks a 29-game losing streak with a win over LaRoche.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on December 04, 2005, 11:09:21 AM
congrats to medaille, and what the hell happened to Laroche ???, not to long ago AMCC champions, now getting beat by 20 by Hilbert and losing to quite possibly one of the worst teams in the country.  Erie looks to be the cream of the crop thus far this year but when Greensburg gets it together they will be right there, plus Mt. could stir things up a bit.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on December 04, 2005, 11:30:57 AM
Recap of the Pitt-Greensburg vs. Pitt-Bradford game

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Pitt-Greensburg rallies three times in OT win over Pitt-Bradford

It was a night of comebacks at the University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg on Saturday as the Bobcats overcame an 11-point first-half deficit and late University of Pittsburgh at Bradford leads in regulation and overtime to win the Battle of the Branches, 74-73, in front of a couple hundred fans in Chambers Hall Gym.

The Panthers (3-3) were up by 11 with just over six minutes to go in the first half but found themselves trailing by the same number early in the second as the Bobcats (3-3) went on a 23-1 run. During the run, former Pitt-Bradford player Tim Gustin scored five of the Pitt-Greensburg points.

But behind junior forward Ryan Race, who scored 32 points and leads the Allegheny Mountain Collegiate conference in scoring, Pitt-Bradford engineered a comeback of its own. The Panthers closed to within a point with seven and a half minutes left in the second half on an old-fashioned three-point play by Race and, after the Bobcats re-established control by taking a seven-point lead, came within two on a "newfangled" three-point play by Race.

Pitt-Bradford then surged into a five-point lead with a shade under four minutes to go on a trey by Perth, Australia native Dan Thomas, who scored 18 points, but David Winfrey answered with two three-pointers of his own to give Pitt-Greensburg a one-point lead with a little over two minutes to play.

A pair of free throws by Race, who was 8-10 from the line for the game, gave Pitt-Bradford a one-point lead, but a three-pointer by Rashad Davison, his only points of the night, put Pitt-Greensburg up by two with 37 seconds left before a jumper by Panther Mark Austin tied the game at 66 with 16 seconds to go.

In OT, Race missed a free throw and failed to convert another old-fashioned three-point play, but Pitt-Bradford still led 73-70 with 1:43 to go. Pitt-Greensburg, however, regained the lead on a jumper by Daniel Waajid and a layup by Bill Scavincky, and late shots by Thomas and Shawn Spindler missed, Spindler just short on a jumper with six ticks left.

Waajid scored 16 points off the bench, and pulled down 12 rebounds, as the Bobcats outscored the Panthers in bench points, 25-2. Scavincky also scored 16 points in a balanced Bobcat attack.

For Pitt-Bradford, Austin recorded a game-high 13 rebounds.

After its win over Penn State Behrend on Friday night, last year's regular season AMCC champion Pitt-Greensburg (2-0) moves a game ahead of Pitt-Bradford (1-1) in the early AMCC standings. Pitt-Bradford defeated Frostburg State on Friday night.

The teams hook up again at Pitt-Bradford on Friday, January 27.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on December 04, 2005, 12:28:33 PM
Hilbert was up 13 at one point to Lake Erie and blew it.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on December 04, 2005, 06:06:33 PM
The conference seems to be wide open. Does the preseason "favorite" ever win the thing? And does the regular-season champion ever win the tournament? I think the latter has happened only once in the eight-year history of the AMCC.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on December 08, 2005, 03:45:28 PM
Article on Pitt-Greensburg and its impressive newcomer, Bill Scavincky:

http://www.gatewaynewspapers.com/penn-traffordstar/55955/
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on December 08, 2005, 04:09:52 PM
Nice article...Its really nice to see the AMCC get some press
I am hoping to head to a Pitt-Bradford game in January...
Impressed how well Ryan Race has developed over the past 2 years..
he is a great kid as well as a dedicated player to the program

Good Luck Panthers...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on December 08, 2005, 11:47:30 PM
Well it appears another addition of the "Moore War" is over with Fredonia
getting the win...
Not sure but I think that means that Pitts Coach Moore is
at the kids table this Christmas.... :)

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on December 09, 2005, 08:47:33 PM
Break up the Mavs... 2 in a row with a win vs. D'Youville.

Advance to finals of Buff. State tournament.

Spartans might pull a Medaille this year.  0-6 thus far.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on December 09, 2005, 11:50:35 PM
LOL hawkbacker... but the streak will come to a sad end tomorrow
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on December 14, 2005, 05:06:22 PM
With the first semester coming to a close, lets recap what has been an interesting first month of basketball.

The story of the season, from my perspective, is the two wins that Medaille has.  Beating LaRoche after going 0-forever last season is an accomplishment itself and if Medaille doesn't win another game all season, it has been a successful one for Dick Hack and company.

Equally as impressive was Lake Erie's 66-62 victory over 2005 Division II tournament contestant Edinboro.  Granted, Edinboro lost two 1,000-point scorers and are a little bit down this season, but the win was impressive nontheless and the Storm are going to be a force to be reckoned with in the AMCC. 

Pitt-Greensburg is the other conference team at 2-0 in league after victories over Pitt-Bradford and Penn State Behrend.  Duke Cooper is as advertised, and a Division I transfer that is the class of the league.  17.1 PPG, 6.1 RPG and 4.2 APG is pretty impressive no matter the level.  Bill Scavincky has been an impact player in his first season in the league, averaging 17.0 per game and replacing Kevin Conlon as Cooper's running mate.  Look for Greenburg to again be in the top four in the league and make a run at the title.

Mount Aloysius is the conference's third unbeaten team, having played only local rival Penn State Altoona.  The Mounties have broken the century mark in four out of seven games this season, but have also shown that they are hot and cold.  After beating Waynesburg 104-90 in the second game of the season, they were anhillated in the rematch, 106-78.  Justin Ohler and Roman Mims again lead the attack, but if history has proven anything its that this type of up and down attack is not conducive to conference championships.

There is a logjam in the middle of the AMCC, as there are four teams at 1-1 in conference.  Penn State Behrend, Pitt-Bradford, Medaille and Hilbert all have .500 records in conference, with Behrend and Bradford both beating Frostburg State while Hilbert and Medaille both defeated LaRoche.

Behrend is the best of the four, with the loss to Greensburg being its lone loss thus far.  Kevin Buczynski has come into his own in his sophomore campaign, and is averaging 22.8 PPG, thanks in large part to a 41-point outburst against SUNYAC opponent Fredonia.  David Gahan and 6'4" shooter JJ Ferguson also average in double figures for the Behrend Lions, who will undoubtedly have a say in the AMCC Conference tournament.

Bradford has also been impressive in the early going, having defeated Frostburg and taken Greensburg to overtime.  Three of the Panthers four losses have been decided by a total of six points.  Sophomore Ryan Race is the star of the team, averaging 20.4 points per contest, almost double that of the second highest on the team.  He is the go-to guy, and will be counted on throughout the season.

Hilbert has also fallen victim to close games all year, as they lost the opener to Hobart in overtime and fell to Keuka at the buzzer.  The Hawks dropped LaRoche by 20 at home, then had Lake Erie on the ropes and were up by as many as 13 in the second half before a swarming Storm press brought them back.  Sophomore Dallas Reinard has been the spark on offense and is leading the team with 18.0 PPG.  JUCO transfer Corey Vander Sluis has also made a nice contribution to the team, averaging 13.7 points and a team-high 7.0 boards per game.

Medaille... well what can you say?  The Mavs recruited hard over the past year and the results are beginning to show.  Sophomore transfer James McNeil is a superstar, and while averaging a ridiculous 20 shots per game, he has sparked the team and given the Mavs at least a hope in most games.  Scott Hack has also improved from his freshman season and is averaging 15.6 points per game and providing a perimeter presence.  Obviously Medaille is going to struggle to make the conference tournament, but like I said previously, it's good to see a number besides 0 in the left hand column.

Penn State Altoona dropped its conference opener to Mount Aloysius, but I still think Altoona can do some damage in the league.  Tyler Franklin is a stud, and Ethan Stewart-Smith, while being a whipping boy at the end of last season for his placement on the AMCC Honorable Mention team, is a glue guy that does all of the little things necessary to win.  I also think that any coaching is going to be an improvement over the leadership that Armon Gilliam provided at the end of last season.  He had obviously wore out his welcome at the school and any wins that the team had at the end of last season were in spite of him rather than because. 

Frostburg State lost a pair of games to Bradford and Behrend and it is going to be interesting to see where the Bobcats go from here.  This school has the most potential of any in the AMCC, with there being so few D3 schools in the state, it being a state school with nice facilities and the ability to provide a nice state-school tuition rate to students.  But for some reason, the team has not been able to win with any consistency in basketball.  Frostburg's lost four straight, face a tough Christopher Newport team then travel to Lake Erie and LaRoche for conference matchups after break.  This on top of rumors that the team may leave the conference to go to the CAC.  Will be interesting to follow the team the rest of the year.

Lastly, and certainly least, is LaRoche.  After a conference tournament championship two years ago and an appearance in the conference semifinals last season, LaRoche has hit the skids.  Losing two D1 transfers will do that to a team, but really is no excuse for the duldrums that they have had this season.  Pringle and Dorazio made up a large part of their team, but the component they're missing the most is Devin Taylor.  He was conference newcomer of the year and a low post presence, and they are sorely missing him.  Grady and the two Davis kids are ok, but if you dont let them beat you, they have nothing at all inside.  It's a sad story, but after losing to Medaille... it does not look good for LaRoche this season.

As has been mentioned before, this conference is really a strange one to figure out.  Lake Erie and Pitt-Greensburg look to be shoe-ins for the conference tournament but after that, it's anyone's guess.  LaRoche looks like they will be near the bottom of the league and Medaille doesn't have enough firepower to make the conference tourney, but the middle of the conference is a crapshoot.  Behrend is going to be good but they really haven't beaten a good team yet (the combined record of the schools they have beaten thus far is 11-28, and their best win was probably against a very poor Fredonia team out of the SUNYAC).  PS-A has a superstar, but do they have enough support?  Bradford as well, and Bradford is young...  Hilbert has a balanced attack, but are they ready to succeed with so much inexperience?  Should be an interesting second half of the season...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 14, 2005, 09:41:27 PM
Awesome job, Hawk Backer. I feel as though I know the league a lot better after having read your piece.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on December 14, 2005, 10:58:34 PM
Quote from: Hawk Backer on December 14, 2005, 05:06:22 PMBehrend is going to be good but they really haven't beaten a good team yet (the combined record of the schools they have beaten thus far is 11-28, and their best win was probably against a very poor Fredonia team out of the SUNYAC).

I think I'll get a chance to see Behrend this weekend at the CalTech tournament.  They'll be playing #5 Univ. of Puget Sound, so we'll see how they fare against a quality opponent.  I'll try to remember to post my impressions in here.

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on December 14, 2005, 11:07:44 PM
I agree, that was probably one of the best posts I have ever seen on this board.  Usually you get a player or a fan talking smack about their own school.  But you managed to look at each team from a neutral (or so it seemed to me) point of view.  So good job, it was actually a long post that I didn't mind reading.  One funny thing in your post was that you said that if Medaille doesn't win another game all year it would be a successful one, I think you were joking, but while going 0-25 is the worst of the worst, beating two teams that could quite possibly do the same,  with a quote "superstar"(LOL) isn't much better, or maybe a win is a win, and that's that. 2 is better than zero I suppose and number 3 could be sooner than later considering they get Dyouville again this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on December 15, 2005, 12:48:08 PM
Well... I don't think D'Youville will go winless.  They have 2 pretty good players in Ward and King (when he wants to be), and play in a lower level league.  I think they'll get one against Medaille this weekend.

And LaRoche has already won twice, granted lesser competition, but still.

Superstar may have been too strong of a word, but he definitely gives them a player they didn't have last year that can create his own shot and get to the line.  After Rene Smith left the team, they had nobody that could create their own shot.  Perioli would try but he wasn't too successful.  Bryant didn't get the ball and when he did he was quadruple teamed because they had no weapons.

Although it was a bit of sarcasm on my part, I really think a 2 win season is something to build on.  Hilbert went from 1 to 5 to 10 wins and look poised to do some damage in the league if a few of their players from last season step it up like they know how.  Gotta start somewhere.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on December 15, 2005, 04:21:51 PM
I was just bustin your chops, they do have to start somewhere and after 0-25 there is no where to go but up.
P.S. I do think Mcneil is a pretty talented player who has to shoot that much because he is the only player that can create his own shot as well.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ricco1 on December 17, 2005, 05:17:22 PM
How will Fisher do against Lake Erie? I here Lake Erie is good.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on December 17, 2005, 05:33:59 PM
Nice call Hawkbacker
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on December 17, 2005, 07:12:37 PM
I think the better question is how will Lake Erie do against St. John Fisher?

Fisher's ranked in the top 25 and have proven to be one of the top D3 teams in the northeast.  Sidney is obviously a big loss, but they return a lot of firepower from the 27-1 team of last year.

Lake Erie is the most athletic team in the AMCC, IMO.  It isn't even close.  The guard play is usually very good, but can be a little bit erratic at times.  Harris down low is very good, but he really doesn't get the ball as much as he should.  Lutzier can shoot the ball and so can Hunt if you leave them open.  Curry is a newcomer and I have not seen him play, but from the sounds he is the 6th man and is pretty athletic.  Not sure if Phil Stewart is going to play, he's been hurt but I see he did play in the last game vs. Bethany (not very well, but he played). 

It should be an interesting matchup, and you have to think Lake Erie is going to come out firing, seeing as though they are not even receiving votes in the D3 poll and the AMCC as a conference is looked down upon by the pollsters.  How is a team like Medaille, who dominated St. John Fisher who is receiving votes and is a perfect 7-0, not even mentioned in the women's poll?  Also, Frostburg was right with nationally ranked Scranton in women's action as well... No love.

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: BOKNOWSBBALL on December 17, 2005, 11:56:51 PM
I think St. Johns Fisher is too strong for Lake Erie.  The AMCC has had some great players(Curren, Beacom, Bowery,Ayers) and teams(Pitt Bradford - 2002-2003, PSU-BEHREND 2003-2004) but have never matched up well against the elite.  Pitt Bradford got stomped in the NCAA tournament against John Carroll in 2002.  Last year Behrend didnt fair well against Lebanon Valley and in 2003-2004 played a hard fought game against Potsdam but came up a bucket short.   

You could possibly say that this is the year the AMCC breaks out with a team as talented and athletic as Lake Erie and maybe a long shot upset in California with Behrend.   I hope this is the case because the AMCC is an excellent conference with good coaches and players and will eventually break the losing trend against the upper level D3 teams. 

As for the rest of the year, I agree with some of the updates and posts before.  I belevie that Lake Erie will win the conference and move on to the NCAA tournament.  I think that Behrend will play Lake Erie in the finals because I do not think Pitt Greensburg is very deep outside of Cooper and Scavinsky, Pitt Bradford will be there but lacks the experience, and the rest of the teams have not stepped up against medicore talent outside the AMCC. 


Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on December 18, 2005, 01:40:43 PM
At halftime, St.John Fisher leads Lake Erie by the score of 26-18.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on December 18, 2005, 04:30:17 PM
Fisher wins, 57-55. Pete Gillett makes three FT's in the final 9.1 seconds to win it for Fisher. I'll give props to Lake Erie, they played better than I thought they would. Big win for Fisher.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on December 19, 2005, 12:56:34 AM
Well, Behrend lost to Puget Sound, 98-83, and the Storm dropped a tough one to St. John Fisher, but all in all, not a bad showing by the conference. 

A 15-point loss after traveling across the country to the #5 team in D3 is not a bad loss, and Lake Erie was with the Cardinals in the final minutes...

Would've been better to come up with a win, but the conference, I believe, is on the upswing...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on December 19, 2005, 01:02:32 AM
I wouldn't go so far as to say that Behrend looked good, but they more or less stayed with Puget Sound tonight.  It looked like UPS' plan was to run Behrend off their legs, but it didn't work.  There's no question who was the better team, but Behrend hung tough.  If they had shot better from the free throw line (and this may have been a byproduct of all the running), or if they had done a better job against the press in the backcourt, the game would have been close. 

Behrend should have no problem with MSOE tomorrow, FWIW.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on December 19, 2005, 12:03:55 PM
David, thanks for the input. It is an honor to have a legend of this site post here. :) I guess you don't have a plus-39 karma ranking for nothing!

Speaking of that, I was happy to "applaud" HawkBacker for his superb post on the AMCC and improve his ranking to minus-2. Indeed, where is the love? Seriously, you should write for the conference web site. Someone, anyone should write for the conference web site!

You made some strong statements, but you back everything up and obviously get to see many, many AMCC games, a luxury most of us don't have. A typical fan for example might see Lake Erie once this year, and if it doesn't happen to be their best road game, you might downplay notions they are the cream of the conference and deserve some national attention. So it's good to have a larger perspective on the teams.

Bo, I wouldn't say John Carroll "stomped" Pitt-Bradford. As I recall, Pitt-Bradford had a modest lead at halftime and into the second half, and hung with John Carroll till 10 minutes to go or so, then faded badly as John Carroll's bench strength took over.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on December 19, 2005, 10:10:08 PM
Lake Erie falls to Lincoln, 93-88. Winless on the weekend but Lake Erie showed they can play with the big dogs. These are the type of games that will help them when the post-season rolls around. Good luck to them, I'm surprised how they played this weekend and it looks like they'll have a big season.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 20, 2005, 07:26:28 AM
Anybody have any idea whats going on with Frostburg State this year.  They were supposed to have one of their best ever recruting class.  And the return of Peterson and Arana was supposed to put them over the top.  I dont even see Peterson on the roster anymore, can anyone help me out?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on December 20, 2005, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: upb88 on December 19, 2005, 12:03:55 PM

Speaking of that, I was happy to "applaud" HawkBacker for his superb post on the AMCC and improve his ranking to minus-2. Indeed, where is the love? Seriously, you should write for the conference web site. Someone, anyone should write for the conference web site!

You made some strong statements, but you back everything up and obviously get to see many, many AMCC games, a luxury most of us don't have. A typical fan for example might see Lake Erie once this year, and if it doesn't happen to be their best road game, you might downplay notions they are the cream of the conference and deserve some national attention. So it's good to have a larger perspective on the teams.


Well, you can thank the negative "karma" to gobombers15.  I stated on the other board that I believed Lake Erie would pull the upset on Fisher and he lambasted me.  I came back with arguments to support my case, and he proceeded to further insult me and my intelligence. 

Which brings me to a question.  If someone has a -18 rating, how can they give somebody a negative comment?  Isn't that a bit counterproductive?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on December 20, 2005, 05:45:11 PM
Behrend slipped past MSOE last eve, 59-55.  I have no details; it wasn't even reported in the LA Times, despite having been played in Pasadena.  ::)

Quote from: upb88 on December 19, 2005, 12:03:55 PM
David, thanks for the input. It is an honor to have a legend of this site post here. :) I guess you don't have a plus-39 karma ranking for nothing!

Aw, shucks. :-[ 
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on December 20, 2005, 11:35:09 PM
Yeah I wouldnt use the term "stomped" either... I was at that game and the first half we did have a lead...and then fatigue took over, John Carroll was deep and they ran...I was really proud of Pitt/Bradford that nite...

I am looking forward to my first AMCC game this season...in january
gotta go see Ryan Race..so nice to see him doing so well
he is a real team player and lover of the game of basketball

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on December 21, 2005, 07:46:01 PM
HawkBacker, another inaccurate statement. In fact, I didn't "smite" you once, my friend. You didn't upset me at all with our healthy debate over the Fisher/Lake Erie game. In fact, we were both wrong. I predicted a bigger victory by Fisher and you predicted a Lake Erie upset; we were both off a little bit.

If you check your facts, you'll see there are a couple of Fisher fans with the ability to "applaud" and "smite." Maybe your slights--perceived or real--irked them enough to knock some points off your karma.

Further, you refer to my -18 karma like it actually means something. Just for your information, with the exceptions of the week Union played Ithaca in the D3 football playoffs and the week of the Cortaca Jug(Cortland v. Ithaca), my karma rating is probably somewhere between +3 and +6, if I had to guess. Unfortunately, there was a "karmatic" battle between E8 and LL posters there for a few weeks, and many went quickly into red numbers. There'd be days where I didn't even post during Union/Ithaca week and my karma would still plunge 3 or 4 points simply due to the fact I was sticking up for my alma mater in past days. During Cortaca week, Ithaca and Cortland posters smite each other just because they can. Needless to say, there are many more people on the football boards who can give/take karma(you need to have 200+ posts) and people got a bit, um, liberal with the smiting when others had opinions that differed from their own.

To conclude, I have no problem with your opinions. Keep dishing them out for all I care. But you are wrong when you said I smited you and you're wrong to infer that my opinions are of lesser value simply because my karma plummeted when emotions and stakes were high during football season.

I should smite you for automatically assuming it was me that knocked down your karma when, in fact, it wasn't. But I'm not gonna do that. Good luck to your team and conference.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on December 22, 2005, 12:31:30 AM
Hawkbacker, you should also be aware that Pat Coleman will almost assuredly smite you if he feels you're engaging in "karma panhandling." In other words, if you're complaining about your karma or pushing to get more of it, you'll likely be smited by the Guru.

Just some friendly advice from someone who has been on these boards for awhile.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on December 22, 2005, 02:51:15 AM
Honestly, if I had a karma of -1000 it wouldn't bother me.  I don't even know how the thing works.

Sorry about the speculation and if it wasn't you, I apologize.  You seemed a bit perterbed when I was on the other board, that's all.

Puget Sound beat D1 UC Riverside tonight/last night.  Not exactly a bad 15 point loss for Behrend.

Pretty impressive.  Can't wait to see how conference play unfolds.  Should be very interesting.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on December 22, 2005, 11:34:36 AM
Bombers, like Pat has nothing better to do than hang around our obscure little corner of cyberspace and see who's trolling for karma. And I'm pretty sure when he and crew put together this new board, they knew the karma feature would create just that very scenario. I'm sure Pat will correct me if I'm wrong, in a matter of moments. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on December 22, 2005, 03:34:39 PM
Pat does have better things to do. Generally speaking, however, I'm sure he at least skims most(if not all) the boards. I thought the same thing during football season but there's no limit to the reach of Pat Coleman. Believe that.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on December 22, 2005, 04:47:57 PM
If karma meant anything, rest assured that the rest of us would have used it to end this inane sidebar by now.  :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on December 22, 2005, 05:54:06 PM
AMEN
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: BOKNOWSBBALL on December 22, 2005, 07:56:51 PM
John Carroll's bench is always pretty strong. 
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on December 22, 2005, 10:27:30 PM
Wow, I dont know if I'd call it "inane." You want some "inane" topics, head on over to the Liberty League football board where NOTHING is off-limits. C'mon folks, only so much basketball can be talked right now. Good luck to your conference, I'm out.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 23, 2005, 05:54:40 PM
Hi.

Yes, that's true re: panhandling, but if it happens in a relatively quiet corner of the board it could be a while before I catch up to it. If it's on the MIAC or LL football board I will see it. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on December 23, 2005, 10:41:37 PM
To illustrate my point, my karma fell two points today and this is my first post of the day. Just goes to show you can get smited even when you don't post something because you were in a car all day travelling for the holidays. Love this karma feature.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on December 24, 2005, 04:47:35 PM
Well as you can see, I have no karma what so ever...

Merry Christmas......

8)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 24, 2005, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: gobombers15 on December 23, 2005, 10:41:37 PM
Just goes to show you can get smited even when you don't post something because you were in a car all day travelling for the holidays.

Yeah, that's because while you're not here, your posts still are. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on December 24, 2005, 11:27:41 PM
True, but I've been far from controversial on these basketball boards. I'm gonna end this back-and-forth with Pat, I learned my lessons on the football boards the hard way. Do not trifle with El Guru.

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to Pat and all the other AMCC posters. Hope it's a great one.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on December 26, 2005, 11:52:48 AM
Ooooooh, Pat Coleman. I'm realllllly scared. What's Pat gonna do? Hold on, a black sedan with tinted windows just pulled up, and some men in dark suits just got out. They're coming to the door. What the hell... Heeyyyyyy...  dfg dfg fdsssssssd gg   fffff

:)

Belated Merry Christmas to all. And thanks again Pat for this site and board.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on December 26, 2005, 11:56:14 AM
Hey Chick, you have karma now! Merry Christmas!

Quote from: berlychick on December 24, 2005, 04:47:35 PM
Well as you can see, I have no karma what so ever...

Merry Christmas......

8)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on December 26, 2005, 04:07:50 PM
Thanks!

To all on here  Merry Christmas and
a Great New Year of nothing but basketball.....

Good Luck UPB...I will be heading your way the first of the year
to watch a few games with my son!!

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: jzflak15 on December 27, 2005, 03:25:58 PM
Lake Erie should get some national recognition...if both games Lincoln and Fisher were at home they would have been two Wins for sure. As for the  AMCC the 2 best obvious teams are lake erie and penn state behrend. Watch out for Pitt Bradford though. No one ever talks about them. Dan Thomas is a very good player, inconsistent but can be very good at times. As for La Roche I think they will squeak into the playoffs, If Devin returns that will help alot but you cant count on one kid. There best players to this date has been Zack Kostorick a freshman and Frank Davis a sophomore. Davis is probably one of the best defnesive players in the Mid Atlantic Region. La Roches problem is mainly that they do not have a point guard who can run the show. Grady is a 2 guard, and will benefit with a good point guard that can penetrate and get him the open look. Thats the strong point of his game. Alot of people are counting La Roche out, but watch for them and Bradford to sneak up on some people. My predicited finishes

1. Lake Erie
2. Penn State Behrend
3. Pitt Bradford
4. Pitt Greensburg
5. La Roche
6. Penn State Altoona
7. Hilbert
8. Mt Aloysius
9. Frostburg State
10. Medaille

Player of the year: Kevin Buchynski Penn State Behrend
Newcomer Zack Kostorick La Roche
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on December 27, 2005, 03:37:21 PM
LaRoche is 0-2 and lost to Medaille... 'nuff said.

Granted, they will benefit from Taylor's return, but you say yourself the main problem is that they don't have a point guard.  Is Carl Krauser transferring for 2nd semester?  If not, I really don't see them doing much at all.

I agree on Bradford, although to be honest if you're going to hype Bradford I would look at Hilbert and say the exact same thing.  People don't know a lot about them but they have talent and are young.  They beat Bradford at home last season and Thomas hit a tough game-winner to beat the Hawks near the end of last year.  Reinard is an all-league type player, Reyes is solid at the point and if Ufland finds his shooting touch (#1 in AMCC in 3-pt. % last season, shooting only 25% thus far from beyond the arc), they're going to be in the post season.  I might like to add that they also were up by 13 with eight minutes left against Lake Erie. 

We shall see.  It should be an interesting second semester.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 27, 2005, 03:57:22 PM
They haven't gone unnoticed. We wrote about them in Around the Nation (http://www.d3hoops.com/nation/06/dec01.htm) back at the beginning of the month, for example. They might not get any Top 25 votes without having beaten one of those teams but they are not off the radar.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on December 27, 2005, 04:34:50 PM
I havent been paying too much attention to anyother
team in the conference besides UPB..so my 2 cents is
if you want to talk about that team you can't do that
without mentioning Ryan Race....
He is leading scorer and from what I have been hearing
and reading doing a heck of a job on the boards.
this is a young man who I have watched for a few years and
he is an all around "team" player.  Something that they needed
from a local boy...since the other local boy didnt seem to have that same
"team" play in him.

Really can not wait to see him up close in Jan 06

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: jzflak15 on December 27, 2005, 04:59:16 PM
I played for La Roche back when we won the championship in 04...if you remember right we had 7 players and that was it.....We havent had a good point guard since Cliff Foster left.. When we get devin back we will be a totally different team. There isnt a big guy in the conference who can run the floor with him or match up with him athletic wise. THis will also open up alot more open shots for Grady, Frank Davis and will allow Nate Davis to maybe play on the wing more, which is his more natural position. You have to remember yes we lost to Medaille.. but theres 16 more conference games left to play.....Where we need to get tougher is on the defensive end, if this happens and we guard like we can and were supposed 2 we could give any1 a run. As for ryan race, he always seemes to have his best games vs us. he is averagin like 27 a game yes...but he played westmibnster and marietta both teams who like 2 run and gun.. I think he is a tough kid dont get me wrong. But i think Thomas runs that team. You need a good point guard 2 win. When we won we had cliff..... Thats why I think lake erie and behrend are so favored because richardson is very dangerous and believe it or not Justin jennings from behrend is probably the best true point guard in the conference..hes not a scorer but just plays the position well.......Also you must remember it is so hard 2 win on the road...Medialle will win more than one conference game this season... and the kid Mcneil they have is a player from what i hear...all im sayin is that La Roche should move grady to the point so that they have some 1 expereinced there. Dover who was my closest friend transferred...another pg quit...that has been our problem the past 2 seasons just no leadership...if you dont have leadership then you dont have anything at all.....
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: jzflak15 on December 27, 2005, 05:04:45 PM
AS for hilbert you might be right... they are a tough team...they are coached very well also..it will be interesting....frostburgh state is done..peterson quit...they lost some leadership...all they have left is ryley and owen... and they have no perimeter really!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on December 27, 2005, 05:59:51 PM
Quote from: jzflak15 on December 27, 2005, 03:25:58 PM
Lake Erie should get some national recognition...if both games Lincoln and Fisher were at home they would have been two Wins for sure.

Not to beat a dead horse, but I think it'd be a tough game even if Lake Erie were the host. Keep in mind Fisher dominated that game for the first 35 minutes and were it not for a furious comeback by Lake Erie, it would have been a relatively easy victory.

Granted, I don't know how good Lake Erie is at home. If they're half as good as Fisher is at home, they'd be very tough. Maybe now that the two teams have some familiarity with each other they could set up a home-and-home series down the line. I sincerely doubt it, however, because nobody outside their conference wants to go to Fisher; their gym is a little bandbox with spectators(aka students) sitting literally two feet away. They're right on top of you.

It'd be fun though to see those two teams go at it again! Hope everyone had a happy holiday and has a great new year!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 27, 2005, 07:50:25 PM
Quote from: gobombers15 on December 27, 2005, 05:59:51 PM
I sincerely doubt it, however, because nobody outside their conference wants to go to Fisher; their gym is a little bandbox with spectators(aka students) sitting literally two feet away.

Shh, don't give away the secrets. Better for your conference that nobody knows that. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on December 28, 2005, 01:51:57 PM
I really like what lake Erie can do on the court but to say that if the sites of their losses were flip flopped they would be definite wins is absurd, each game is an individual game and you never know what would happen. Conference play goes on the same as always in that the upper teams can beat the upper teams and the lower teams squeak some games out.... but as Chris Berman says, "That's why they play the game".
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on January 04, 2006, 04:07:53 PM
Opening games of the 2006 calendar year were played last night...

Behrend dropped Allegheny, 78-64, as the team shot 56% from the field and got another fine game from sophomore center Kevin Buczynski (23 pts on 7-15 shooting).  JJ Ferguson also had a nice game for the Lions, adding 19, as PSB improved to 7-2 on the season.

Geneseo State notched its second win of the season as they withstood a game-high 29 points from AMCC POY candidate Ryan Race and hung on for the victory.  The Panthersm who fell to 4-5, had it going early, as Race had seven of the team's first 15 points and gave the team a 15-8 advantage.  Geneseo was too big for UPB and used a 41-22 rebounding advantage to take control of the game.  Five players scored in double figures for the SUNYAC school, including a team-high 13 from Greg Spears.  Jon Hannon was the only other player in double-digits for the Panthers with 11.

Corey Vander Sluis posted a career-best 23 points and added eight boards as Hilbert used a 40-23 second half spurt to wipe away a halftime deficit and cruise to a 66-51 victory over D'Youville.  Dallas Reinard added 22 points and a team-best nine boards to help the Hawks to the win.  Michael Reyes also had a strong floor game for Hilbert, adding nine assists against just two turnovers.  The Hawks improved to 3-5 on the season.

One thing I am very surprised at from last night's matchups was the way Dan Thomas was used against Geneseo.  He didn't start and really was not a factor in the contest.  Was he hurt?  Disciplinary problems?  Whatever the reason, UPB is not the same team without him. 

Another potential factor from last night is the way Allegheny played against PSB.  They shot 52% in the second half, which is very surprising.  Usually Behrend is tough on the defensive end.  Maybe a little California jetlag could be contributed to this. 

DYC is not very good and Hilbert took care of business in the second half of the game like they should have.  When the Hawks play to their abilities, they can play with anyone, but when they play the way it looked like they played in the first half, they are very vulnerable. 
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on January 04, 2006, 10:40:57 PM
Greensburg falls to Grove City, 80-73.

Scavincky DNP...  Don't know the story on that one.

Grove City beat Medaille by only 8 and lost to PSA. 

This conference is mindboggling.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 07, 2006, 12:22:33 AM
Hawk Backer, I like your observation about Dan Thomas. He really gives Bradford a spark. He played more tonight in a big win over Mount Aloysius at home, scoring 14 points. Ryan Race had a bit of a subpar performance -- 20 points is nothing to sneeze at, but a lot of those points came when the rout was on. Fortunately, others picked up the slack, including Jon Hannon (26) and Rob Copley (23). Hannon seems to be breaking out after a freshman year in which he looked a little lost at times. He's getting his game together. Copley has been awesome. I'm certainly biased, but I like Pitt-Bradford if they can start to gel as the season goes along.

Mount Aloysius didn't impress, except that I don't think I've seen a team with more energy and enthusiasm -- a very emotional team. Their bench was alive, and they never quit. Watching them, they genuinely looked like they felt that they were going to come back late in the game, even down by 17 or so with four minutes to go. Looks like a good bunch of kids. Like Race, Roman Mims was a little off his game. He got his points, but a lot of them came in garbage time.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on January 10, 2006, 02:27:52 PM
The AMCC has always confused my mind.. With a truly up and down conference and not really ONE dominant team I feel like the top 3 are going to be tight..  Here are my thoughts, for what they're worth...

#1. Lake Erie (8-3, 4-0) - Appears to be the strongest team in the conference... Besides their first loss of the season the look to have gotten it together... 2 close losses in the Nunally classic... played st. john fisher REAL close... my only concern with them is their potential.. I feel like they can have a different high scorer, on any given game... do they understand that potential... harris numbers are a bit down,  and 9 players playing 15+ minutes do they all know/accept their roles?? Richardson perhaps the most dynamic PG in the conference, and Williams in the backcourt 54% from the field and 50% from behind the arc I like their chances to take at least the regular season title.. We will see Jan 10th against Behrend.

#2. Behrend (9-2, 3-1) is Behrend always solid... The thing I like about them is they make you play their game... They don't fluctuate according to the schemes of another team... They are gonna grind you out on the offensive end and use the shot clock... Then play in your face defense for 35 seconds... A very well prepared team no matter who they are playing against... As long as Buczynski keeps butting up big numbers 41 against Fredonia, solid guard play from Jennings, who I feel is underrated as a player, and if Ghram (14.5)and Furgeson (15.4) keep doing their job Behrend will contend with LE for the title..

#3. Pitt Greensburg (4-7, 2-2), although their overall record, 4-7, and getting smacked by LE, and Bethany I think the Bobcats will contend for the league title... I feel they have good inside play Duke Cooper obviously a stud, but guard play is lacking... I would like to see more production out of Winfrey, and Street... Scavincky has only played 8 games (injury?) if that is the case if he stays healthy and the guard step it up little the Bobcats should be fine... Losing a player like Conlan doesn't help much either..

#4. Pitt Bradford, (6-5, 3-1)... Losing to Naz twice, Fredonia, and Geneseo I come to question the Panthers.. In conference losing to Greensburg and beating 3 teams below them makes me wonder where the Panthers will fall come seasons end.. 3 everyday starters producing Race, Copely, Austin, with Race being a scoring machine this year.. I wonder about consistency.. I see that Dan Thomas only started 8 out of 11 games and read on here last week that he played limited minutes in one of their previous games.. Disciplinary problems there?? If so I feel UPB will struggle.. If the Panthers can get consistent play and beat who they are supposed to beat the should be in the top 5..

#5. Hilbert Hawks, (4-5, 2-1) that's right, this is the year they crack the AMCC conference tourney.. Hilbert confuses me because I feel they have the capability, maybe their reputation haunts them?? I know they haven't really beaten anyone (medaille, dyouville twice, laroche) But I think the hawks will contend.. Coach Rob has done a good job there increasing his win total every year.. 1 in 03' I think 5 in 04, 10 in 05'.. With the loss to S. Gioia I wondered how guard play would be with running the team, since he did for 4 years.. Rienard has proven he can score, (19.3, 42% from arc) and JUCO transfer Cory Vandersluis in the post, (15.6 8 rebs) The Hawks have go to weapons.. Once again guard play, which I like Reyes but what's happening with him.. Seems to taken a bench role the last couple games. And their starting 5 always jumbled 11 players earning at least 1 start.. Can the Hawks pull it together and find a nucleus.

#6 Laroche, (4-7, 2-2) I wrote them off early in the year with some losses that I don't think they should have had, and Losing Pringle who has led them for the past 2 years now.. They have surprised me though. The Red hawks with Grady and Davis, Frank proving to be Laroche's 1-2 punch the Red hawks will compete.. I was wondering what happened to last years starting PG Dover.. Did he transfer?? I saw he wasn't and hasn't been on the roster this year...

#7. Mt. Aloysius, (5-4, 1-2) quite possibly the most 'fun' team to watch.. Up-tempo fast passed run and gun trap your face off don't care if we give up 150 pts we'll try and score 151 style.. I think their style permits them from winning quantity, and quality games.. Fundamental prepared teams have learned to combat this style and obviously send MTA more losses than wins.. 5-4 is a respectable start for this team.. Close loss to Behrend makes me believe that this team is on the up.. Mims has not disappointed and although Ohler's numbers are a bit down I still feel he is one of the best inside presences in the league.. Look for Aloysius to knock off a few teams this semester..

Now it begins to get tough...

#8.  I'm going to go with Penn State Altoona here- (3-6, 0-3) this team really disappoints me.. With an All-league backcourt, based on last year and a big front line I would think Altoona would do more damage then presented..  Besides losing to Bradford (by 12) they have been in most of their other 5 looses excluding Heidelberg... Backcourt numbers seem to be down Franklin (14 ppg) around 22 last year and Stewart smith (7.3 ppg, over 13 last year) .. If Dziabo and Minnemyer (sp?) can do a little more on the glass PSA will compete in many of their AMCC contests.. When Franklin is your leading rebounder, at almost 9 a game.. What does that say about your post players..

#9. Medaille- (2-8, 1-3)  yes climbing out of the basement.. It has been a tough stretch for the mavs after winning a NEAC championship in 04' (11 wins) to 0-25 a year a go.. Production has improved for the Mavs who seemingly have done some recruiting.. What I want to know is how did they get so bad? (05' potential starting 4 of Smith, A. Gioia, Perioli, Bryant).. And a coaching switch in 05' seemed to throw off the mavs.. With scoring machine (and shooting machine McNeil 22ppg on 20 shots wowie) 33% from field 30 from arch ouch.. Hack's numbers have seemed to improve and with a lot of Fr. So. The Mavs can build.. They might even get a few more this season, however 2-8 at the break is  something positive to build off of..

#10. Last but NOT least Frostburg St (3-8, 0-4).- Losses to Bradford Lake E Laroche and Behrend State is struggling.. They still have Medaille 2 times this year to come, good news for them..  With 3 in double figures Frostburg can run with some teams..Ryley undoubtly being their best player so far, (13.6 ppg  9.5 rpg) With Green Jr. and Owen, then can put up limited numbers.. With 12 players playing 12+ minutes a game they are not afraid to use their bench.. With a school of their size and being a state u I would think Frostburg would be able to draw some players..


I am sure I am off on a lot of these, just my thoughts on the teams in the AMCC... With heavy conference play on the way I am excited to see how things will turn out in the end..   :o
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 10, 2006, 04:28:17 PM
my take:
LE: cream of the crop 1
PSB: every year coach niland puts together a team that can contend, fundamentals are his specialty leads conference in rebs margin but last in TO margin hard to understand. 2
Greensburg: Cooper is a stud (leader in pts, reb and assists), but tough to carry a team on your own. 3
Pitt-Bradford- I really like what they are capable of, good guard play and good inside as well, race has been scoring well but needs to hit the glass a little harder. 4
Hilbert-good coaching, great recruiting Vander sluis, and Dijohn.6 loss of s. gioia and dont forget kenney will hurt.
Laroche-seems to have found something  both Davis' playing well, but where is Taylor?8
the mount- style of play is unique in this league somewhat of a poor mans Grinnell, but they do have some players, ohler seems to be in a bit of a funk this year, always helps your stats when you beat up on a couple church league teams every year.7
PSA- I like this team and if their stiffs get it together I think they can make some noise down the stretch.5
Medaille- 2 beats zero , but with a guy that shoot the ball 100 more times than the next man and hack and mcgunner shoot more (345) than the rest of the roster (298) success wont come easy especially when they both shoot under 35%.
Frostburg- are they really this bad?  I don't think they are and I think they can pull some out in the second half. 9
to answer some ?'s
LE has a first year coach his rotation will start to settle in.
Hawks: Reyes lacks confidence, I think because coach recruited over him to get another PG that's usually not a booster
Medaille was suppose to bring back 5 of top 7 and COY didn't work out, new coach slower offense, no gioia, smith not around long, ive heard some reasons why. Bryant looked timid all year long and old coach now coaching ABA team in buffalo. Ouch, so much for a building block
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on January 10, 2006, 06:52:49 PM
Good to see some conversation in the forum.  I think it's safe to say that if there is one thing certain in this conference it is that there is absolutely nothing certain.

Preseason POY Jajcen Harris isn't even starting, Ohler's monster numbers from a year ago have dwindled and LaRoche, after winning the conference tournament a few years ago, has fallen flat on its face.

That being said, here are my thoughts:

1. Lake Erie - As has been said previously, they have faced some tough competition in non-conference and more than held their own.  Bethany and Edinboro are two quality wins and might be the best two wins that the conference has to this point.  Their guard play is great, they have post players, athleticism and depth.  They will be at the top.

2. Penn State Behrend - Do I really need to say anything?  Like clockwork, Behrend will be at or near the top of the conference and will be in the semifinals of the tournament.  They are beatable, however, and have shown some kinks in their defensive armor, which is usually very strong.

3. Hilbert - I'm going out on a limb with this one, but the Hawks have the talent and depth to compete with anyone.  There were questions on Reyes and what is wrong with him... Nothing is wrong.  He's a solid PG and will be back in the lineup.   DiJohn gives the squad another backcourt weapon and is a change of pace from Reyes controlled, run-the-show type game.

4. Pitt-Bradford - I really think it's between Hilbert and Pitt-Bradford for the #3 spot.  Race is playing really well and the new guards are coming around.  I still think the key to the team is Thomas, but I could be wrong.  Also, size is an issue with the Panthers.  Race is the tallest starter they have at 6'3 with Austin gone (what happened here?).  I think this could be a real issue as the season wears on.

5. Pitt-Greensburg - The Bobcats have lost three straight and are really struggling right now.  I would have had them at the #3 spot before this past weekend began but a loss to La Roche, who had yet to win a conference game, and a 21-point whitewashing by Lake Erie really makes me wonder if they are that good.  Cooper is a great, great player.  You don't go into Robert Morris and play as a freshman if you can't play.  I don't care if the NEC is a small D1 school.  Kid is the best player in the conference and I really don't think it is close.  But is there much left around him to keep them atop the division?  Conlon was a glue guy that did a lot of things to help the team win, and it seems like they are missing a lot of that this season.  I could be wrong, but I think we may see UPG slip a little more than people expected previously.

6. Mount Aloysius - Granted, they're 1-2, but they've played 2 of my top 4 teams in the conference and beat Altoona on the road.  They lost to Behrend by only 5, which may be a bit deceiving but it still could be an indication that the Mounties might be able to sneak into the conference tournament.  Mims is an all-conference player and if Ohler finds his game this team could be a dangerous team at the end of the year.

7. Penn State Altoona - At 0-3,  Altoona is behind the 8 ball right now a little bit but they've played 2 of my 4 top teams in the conference and lost to Aloysius in a hard fought game.  Franklin is very talented and Stewart-Smith is a solid all-around player. If Minemyer can do anything inside, or Dziabo, they will challenge Aloyisius for #6.

8. La Roche - Unless they get Taylor back, I really don't see them making the tournament.  I was very surprised by the win against Greensburg, and I'm really not sure what to make of it.  It was a home game and I think Greensburg might have been taking them lightly, but I really don't think they have the talent to make a run. 

9. Medaille - Much improved from a year ago.  Last season they struggled to compete with themselves, let alone another team.  This season they have a legitimate threat in McNeil who will give teams fits all season.  There aren't too many people in the conference, Lake Erie included, that can stop this kid one-on-one.  Milford is an effort player who can do a few things in the post, but it is still a work in progress for the Mavs as they will continue to struggle for victories.

10. Frostburg State - Complete and utter disarray.  Jason Peterson and Victor Arana were both kicked off the team and at 0-4 it doesn't look good.  They kept it close against Lake Erie, which they deserve credit for, and Ryley is a good player, but with the loss of so many players it's going to be tough to climb out of the cellar.

It is VERY early in the conference season so I will preface my predictions by saying that things can change quickly in this conference and a player can leave any of these teams in an instant, further muddling the picture.  After the top 2, it really is a crapshoot.  I think UPB, Hilbert and UPG are a step above the rest, but it isn't a big step and Aloyisius, Altoona or even La Roche could potentially climb 2 or three spots.  Parity is great and should make for some competitive and interesting games this winter.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 10, 2006, 08:02:50 PM
Hawk backer,
your my man, but to say Hilbert is one of the top 3 teams in the conference is a stretch, I know your a hilberthawkbacker, but give em a year they will be good next year.  And i believe you did play some ball so, you know and i know that when a coach that you give your trust to, to guide your career recruits a player that plays "your" position, over the top of you, that's not saying much of what he thinks of your game.  Plus if no one can stop the maverick mcchucker one on one, who cares because no one else on the team even gets involved in the game offensively, so the longer his teammates don't feel part of the game on one end of the court, becomes just a matter of time before frustration allows them to stop competing on the other end. Oh yeah good call on Milford, I bet his 14 and 11 against the hawks must have gave you that idea, if he works hard in the off season he could be a nice undersized postman, he definitely plays hard, is 50 shots enough for your best post player in 10 games while someone else gets 21 shots a game? just my opinion i could be wrong.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 10, 2006, 08:26:46 PM
Good posts. Great reading for the not so serious fans of the conference. These preseason and early season rankings are interesting, but I take them with a grain of salt -- coarse sea salt. :) As someone said, the AMCC is confounding. There might be consensus right now as to who is the best team and who is the worst, all the rest are practically interchangeable. I read on here how so and so is the cream of the crop, then they inevitably lose at home to a "bottom feeder." Crazy.

I always like to drag out this bit of trivia: In the eight conference tournaments in AMCC history, only one top seed has ever won it. Pitt-Bradford did it 2001 and only by a whisker when they hit a three-pointer in the dying seconds of regulation to force overtime. What we have here is a bunch of fairly even teams and anything can happen on any given night. Want one more cliché? That's why they play the games!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on January 10, 2006, 08:33:45 PM
In a twisted sort of way, I agree with most of what you're saying.  

Not saying Medaille will be all that much better but "McChucker" gives them a chance and a threat.  I know what you're saying about involvement, but compared to last year there really isn't a comparison.

As for Milford, he will play his ass off no matter who he plays against.  IMO, and this is sheerly my opinion, he's their second best player right now, hence the mention.  Not saying he's all world, but he gives effort which is more than you could say about Bryant for much of last season.

Lake Erie is a great example of how you need three guards to win in this conference.  The combination of Washington, Richardson and Williams is lethal, they each get 20-25 minutes a game and they all contribute greatly to the team.  Dijohn is a combo guard and can play a little bit of the 2, which his .390 3-pt. percentage will show you.  They both start together, and they're different players.  They both bring different elements to the game and they will both be integral parts to the team for the next 2 and 3 years, IMO.

As for the #3 seed, like I said, going out on a limb.  But with the way UPG has been playing I really think it's between UPB and Hilbert for the #3-#4 slot.  And then it's a matter of preference.  Like I said, it's very early and it's fun to talk about the conference.  I think once the first round of conference play is over we will know a lot more about what the playoff picture will look like.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 10, 2006, 09:10:27 PM
upb,
I have always said that any team can win any game on any given day, this is basketball, sometimes your hot and sometimes your not.  As far as the discussion (not for the not so serious fan) their wouldn't be a post board unless people got to express their opinions for fun and thats all it is, fun, who knows whos going win and honestly unless you play or played for one of these teams, is it really all that important? probaly not.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 10, 2006, 11:18:24 PM
This is what I like
to come on here and get to read these posts since
I dont get to go to any of the games...
I have really no idea what to think besides
that I think that Bradford is always tough come the end of the
season...just as was said about the 2001 AMCC title game..ahhh
memories....great game and great shot....
But the best game for me was 2004 on Behrend floor...
Beacom head in the garbage everytime out..(flu) and the last 2 minutes Rowles on the bench..(Fouled out)...and we beat them on their floor
loved cutting down that net! :)

I will have to live the AMCC season through you guys eyes, so thanks for keeping in the know

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on January 11, 2006, 08:44:37 AM
'Hawk'although I think Hilbert is good, I wouldn't put them with the cream of the crop, just yet.. They are still looking for an identity in the AMCC and are surely on their way. With a solid core of Rienard, Vandersluis, Reyes, and Djuhon they will make some noise, how much is yet to be determined. Mcchucker does give the Mavs 'a chance' to shoot the ball more than anyone else. Last I checked you couldn't win 1 on 5 and shooting a mere 30% unless your Kobe. More people need to get involved if they want to have any kind of chance. I was blown away by the shooting stat of Hack and McNeil shooting more than the ENTIRE Maverick team, that is crazy. I will agree on the Milford comment.. He will play his tail off every game and in essence is a team player, limited shots, undersized only a So. As well.. So the consensus seems to be that L.E will take the AMCC this year. Maybe we will be proven wrong, however I do think that spots 3-8 are all up in the air. I still like Greensberg, I probably will eat my words on this one. We'll see.  ::)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 11, 2006, 09:59:00 AM
Berlychick, did your son tell you about that shot Louis Benton hit against Altoona? I could swear I heard the Harlem Globetrotters theme music playing. Unbelievable!

As for Behrend, they kind of remind me of hockey's Ottawa Senators. Always have a great regular season but do little in the postseason. Behrend has won the AMCC only twice over the years. In keeping with theme of parity in the AMCC, no one has won it more than twice.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 11, 2006, 11:32:23 PM
Yeah heard all about it
My hubby made it to that game too!

sounded like a great one for the books...

He is a great kid Louis....
I guess that weekend was a weekend for old players to return to the campus
alot of them there...Big Will....Matt.....Matt Barnes....not sure who else
wish I could have been

hopefully heading to the game against UPG to watch an old UPB player!

Timmy............

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 12, 2006, 12:12:42 AM
Big Will, really? Bill Clinton? I wondered what all the Secret Service was about. :) Actually I'm embarassed to say I don't know who Big Will is. I will probably kick myself when I hear the name.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ricemmitt on January 12, 2006, 08:22:14 PM
upb,
Ottawa Senators?  is this the best you can do.  You used to be much more negative about Behrend before UPB last two seasons.  Lets put it this way there resume on a whole is impressive over the last ten years and by the time a different team in this league sniffs the final eight we will all be in the ground.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 12, 2006, 09:04:00 PM
Yes, Mrs. Niland, it's the best I can do. Because it's a great analogy. Year after year after year, the Senators are disciplined, play their system to a T and win a ton of games in the regular season but don't do squat in the playoffs. Some hungry, less talented team always beats them. This has nothing to do with UPB, as far as I can figure out. But, yeah, UPB has not won squat either. Take away Behrend's nice run in the tournament a few years ago, and the two program's resumes are very, very similar. I think we went through this last year. I posted all the comparative stats for Moore and Niland.

Please fill the rest of us lowly programs in on exactly why Behrend is the only AMCC team that will EVER have a chance to make it to the final eight? What's so special about Behrend? Good program, but I think you've gone a bit overboard.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 12, 2006, 11:41:19 PM
Very well said!

I have only been watching the AMCC for about 6 years...and
both times that Behrend won the conference, as was said did nothing later
It might be alittle bias of me seeing my son played @ UPB...and the fact that Behrend recruited him and when he did visit their campus, to quote the coach "You can look around if you want I dont have time tonight".....
Well their loss as far as I am concerned....


upb

Will Torrey...nice kid didnt play alot but was there all 4 years...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on January 13, 2006, 09:34:10 AM
Weekend action in the AMCC

Friday-

Hilbert at Frostburg St. -  Can Hilbert continue winning ways?
La Roche at PS-Altoona  - Can Altoona pull one off at home?
Medaille at Pitt-Greensburg – No answer for Copper, this might get ugly.
Lake Erie at Mt. Aloysius – LE should take care of business.


Saturday-

Medaille at Frostburg St – Can Medaille get #3?!?!
La Roche at Mt. Aloysius – Mt. Alo style too much for La Roche I think.
Lake Erie at PS-Altoona – These are the games Lake Erie needs/ supposed to win.
Hilbert at Pitt-Greensburg – Important game for both.
Pitt-Bradfrod at PS-Behrend – My game of the weekend. Can Race get hot, and knock off Behrend??

Back to the Smith comment about getting kicked off the team, didn't he try to beat up the coach?? Ha.   ::)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 13, 2006, 09:49:03 AM
Berly... Ohhhh, I remember him as Bill. A senior moment on my part.

Sheek, thanks for the overview and comments. Two games Lake Erie "should" win, but winning on the road is tough in the AMCC. If LEC slips up, it will be an indication maybe they're not going to dominate the conference as some suspect.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 13, 2006, 12:07:41 PM
sheek,
I too, heard that smith was a bit on the cuckoo side. he could hoop though. I think that their will be some upsets this weekend, home court is overrated when students are on break at most places.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 13, 2006, 01:50:31 PM
I think it's safe to say home court is overrated, period, in the AMCC. Not that the home teams don't do very well, but it's not because of the fans. I doubt that there's one intimidating place to play in the conference. Heck, I remember how quiet the Junk Center was at Behrend for the AMCC Championship Game against Pitt-Bradford a few years ago! Jeesh. Won by the Panthers, by the way, with Matt Beacom playing his guts out (literally) and the POY not a factor. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 13, 2006, 02:47:46 PM
Well playing at your home gym is always a little bit of an advantage for the fact that you practice there on a daily basis and the other team plays there once or maybe twice a year.  Familiarity is an advantage whether you think so or not. Also, if you think traveling by bus all the way to Maryland from NY or vice versa is quite a hindrance, no chartered planes in D3. And Beacom was a very good player, but Curren had a lot to do with the success of PSB during his career, matter of fact that year he was the only player on the team averaging in double figures, not bad for a 20-9 team.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 13, 2006, 02:57:05 PM
I'm not disagreeing that there is a home court advantage for all of the reasons you mentioned. I just don't think crowds, or student sections, are a big factor in the AMCC.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 13, 2006, 10:38:20 PM
And Beacom was a very good player,



Now I think that comment is an understatement....a very "good" player...
Matt Beacom for his height was a great player at his position..as I recall and someone can correct me if I am wrong..Career pts...>2000..Career rebounds...>1000...I think that would put him in as one of the great players in that conference...

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 14, 2006, 02:16:34 PM
Good, Great what's the difference my point was, that the kid could play some ball, next time I'll make sure to differentiate the two, but I would still take Curren if I had a choice. IMO
Good     P   Pronunciation Key  (g d)
adj. bet·ter, (b t  r) best (b st)
a.   Having the qualities that are desirable or distinguishing in a particular thing
b.   Superior to the average (see the word good isn't so bad)
Pat Cullinan was a "great" player as well, there now you feel a little better ?                         
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 15, 2006, 05:04:03 PM
Not really
i think you taking Curren over Beacom is a mistake
maybe I am wrong and if i am i usually admitt it
but exactly in the 4 years that Curren played what did his team do?
(I am taking when Beacom was at UPB)
I think UPB beat them on their floor in the Championship game..so for me I would take Matt anyday over Curren..but then I am alittle bias to UPB...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 15, 2006, 06:07:43 PM
A little bias is an understatement.....
PSB took two out of three that year
2003-2004 22-4 11-1 AMCC NCAA berth
2002-2003 20-9 10-2 AMCC ECAC berth
2001-2002 18-9 9-3 AMCC ECAC berth
-1350 pts and 600 rebs in 3yrs
*PSB 4-2 against Pitt Bradford over this period                 
Thats not spectacular but not bad, plus Beacom had a lot more help than Curren did, those Bradford teams he was on were good(Rowles,Schneider,Luther) and like i said the year PSB was 20-9 Curren was the only player even in double figures.the following year (22 win year) hairston only other averaging 11 per. And dont tell me Casey Ponsoll or David Hairston were some kind of studs either. Beacom was a very very good player and so was curren I just think Curren had more of a load to carry with less around him, and he was a little more of a team player (not that Beacom wasn't), as far as numbers Beacom was an animal (especially at 6'4"), like i said its just my opinion that i like Curren better(that doesnt mean that he was better)
By the way how many NCAA games did Bradford win in Beacom's career, just curious?
gotta love a little debate, dont ya
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 15, 2006, 06:47:53 PM
4-2? Are you conveniently leaving out the AMCC championship? Yes, two out of three ain't bad, but I think Bradford got the one that they wanted. :) And if I am correct in remembering that Behrend's run in the NCAA tournament came in 2000, then Curren and Beacom won the same number of NCAA tournament games -- zero. I could be wrong, and I'm sure you will correct me if I am.

Back to 2006 and reality. Panther fans are certainly pining for the "old days" of Matt Beacom. Lion fans have moved on, their team hardly missing a beat since Curren graduated. Unfortunately, that is the sorry state of the Bradford-Behrend rivalry! The rematch at Pitt will be a different story, I assure you. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 15, 2006, 08:17:03 PM
Yep, I believe neither of them won a NCAA game, but i was just making sure.  And the panthers are missing more than Beacom these days , its seems that they don't get any of the star players they used to in the "good old" days and that's too bad because amongst d3 teams in the east bradford was always thought of highly.  better days are ahead im sure.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 15, 2006, 10:56:30 PM
I love a good debate too...

I am not saying that Curren was a bad player..heck he was a good player but I think he alot more talent around him then you give those guys credit...I watched for 4 years..(sometimes in aganist) when we played PSB..and they had alot of talent to help Curren...
the only difference I saw between Beacom and Curren was that Matt played alot bigger than his 6'4" frame...that was proven in the Clarion game that he pulled down 22 boards...

I am not sure why UPB isnt getting the recruits, they have a solid program and a facility that is one of the finest in the AMCC..

but as i said i love to debate basketball...i miss seeing the games so you guys on here keep me honest and updated ....thanks

upb88...do we have to go to the reality of this season right now..saw that score from last nite...can anyone tell me what the heck happen..Louis the high scorer?

And as for being "alittle" bias...wont apoloigies for that....love me some Panthers..
best thing that ever happen to this family in central PA
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 15, 2006, 11:16:44 PM
Berly, on a positive note, Louis is making some nice contributions after a couple of years of being nailed to the bench and being injured.

Behrend outrebounded the Panthers by a wide margin and nailed some big three-pointers. But the key was holding Ryan Race to two points -- a pair of free throws at that.

Elsewhere around the AMCC, Lake Erie remains undefeated in the conference at 6-0. Amazing considering that their head coach resigned just before the season.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on January 16, 2006, 11:55:47 AM
Top 2 (L.E. and Behrend, until proven otherwise) took care of business this weekend.. Hilbert falls off losing 2 at Frostburg and Greensburg.. Hence negating any talk of them being in the 'top 3'.. Altoona continues losing ways (L4), as does Medaille (L6) who gets absolutely destroyed this weekend, putting "McChucker" on the bench.. LaRoche and MTA both split, Frostburg takes 2, and Behrend rough up Bradford by 23.. 3-8 still a dog fight.. Possibly a clearer picture by next weekends end??  :o
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 17, 2006, 12:22:17 AM
yeah i heard that about Ryan, my son actually talked with him
the next day...not a happy group up there
would have hated to be in that locker room....
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 17, 2006, 10:43:20 PM
couple suprises to me anyhow....bradford loses to hilbert(only suprised because it was at bradford)and the mount beats pitt greensburg...oh yeah and the mavs lose to PSB 69-29 are you serious...11 points for medaille at the half
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: BOKNOWSBBALL on January 18, 2006, 12:05:50 AM
Saw the Behrend vs. Bradford game this past weekend and was really surprised by the lack of talent and coaching by Bradford team.  Ryan Race hit the rim with about two of his shots and threw up alot of junk.  It was no contest from the beginning of the game.   Bradford's guards were very weak against a decent Behrend backcourt.  I cannot see Bradford making any sort of run in the tournament.  Bradford didnt run any sort of offense and Race could no one on there team could create a shot. 

Behrend looked good but it was hard to tell against a team that really didnt put up any fight.  Behrend's defense is good but not that good. 


All Bradford could really do was complain to the refs and oh ya Coach Moore got a T again.  What is that 200 on his career?     

As for the rest of the league, I have not seen many games but Lake Erie.  I would love to see that Behrend Lake Erie contest.   The rest of the league seems to be chop liver. 

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 18, 2006, 03:08:26 PM
Does anyone know if Justin Ohler is hurt or something? Vander Sluis been putting up some digits, and how about Scavincky shooting 65% from the field wow.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 18, 2006, 03:18:30 PM
Bo, I think you have technical fouls and wins mixed up.

cantbestopped, Vander Sluis dominated the game last night in Bradford. Reinard didn't do much, although he made some big free throws at the end, but that number 50 did the Panthers in. Hilbert is much improved from a year or two ago.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on January 18, 2006, 05:33:38 PM
Interesting night last night with a few surprises, including what I thought was a pretty big one.

Mt. Aloysius beating Pitt-Greensburg, to me, was the surprise of the night.  Greensburg should be the clear-cut #3 team but has lost a few winnable games to LaRoche and Mt. Aloysius.  Interesting note: Greensburg has yet to win a road game all season.  Very inconsistent.

Hilbert beating Bradford wasn't, to me, a surprise, but I could understand if people thought it might be.  With the size that the Hawks have up front, it would have taken a great effort by Race and Co. in order to pull through.  Surprised Reinard didn't have a good game, but he's been in a little bit of a shooting funk recently, as has Ufland.  They'll need to turn it around for Friday night's game against the Mounties.  They'll get plenty of open looks.

Behrend is getting better quickly, and the matchup on Friday between Lake Erie and Behrend will be interesting to see.  Two contrasting styles of play and two totally different teams.  I wish it were available somewhere on the internet.  The rematch will be available on Lake Erie College's radio station at Behrend. 

Medaille...29 points?  Come on.  I think a few Erie area high school teams could have faired better against PSB.  Long season again for the Mavs.

Frostburg beat Altoona for its third consecutive win.  Give credit to coach Hatch.  He has the troops playing a little bit over their heads right now and Keith Hazel is coming into his own as a sophomore.  Averaging 23.3 PPG over his last 3 games.  Pretty impressive. 

Altoona is struggling and I think they are the biggest disappointment thus far this season.  With a new coach, it may take a while to get adjusted.  Maybe I didn't give Gilliam enough credit with the job he was doing... Who knows.  But with four starters back, including two all-conference performers, you would have expected more.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: BOKNOWSBBALL on January 18, 2006, 10:48:55 PM
Upb  ,

You are right he has more T's then he does wins.  His best year was 20-6 not to shabby, but not too good compared with Niland,  who has ousted the twenty win mark a number of times and also hit 200 wins in his 12th season.   


I have not seen your comparative stats but its hard to compare guys when one guys is a full season behind and holds more wins and not to mention an elite eight run that Bradford may only dream about. 

I am not sure but I think you may still be bitter about walking about the behrend campus with your son, who i find it hard to believe that Niland would ever do that to any player, especially if he could play.  (just assuming he was a player)  probably not by the sound of your posts. 

I look forward to seeing the Bradford vs Behrend match up in the future but I am not sure if it will ever be at match up like it was a few years ago. 

Bradford has dropped off significantly in the past years and Behrend is improving even with young kids and defending AMCC champs.



Should be a good one on friday.  Predictions? 

Behrend 67-Lake Erie 65
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: BOKNOWSBBALL on January 18, 2006, 10:55:25 PM
I apologize.....


Coach moore did have a 23-5 season where they won the amcc but finished 2nd in the conference during the regular season.    A great season but a 1-2 record vs. Behrend.  Go figure. 
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 18, 2006, 10:58:07 PM
i think LE will take this one at home 72-65, and look for my man tne maverick "mcchucker" to put up 30 or so FGA's against the Mount on sat. but of course they lose by 30. they could beat PSA on friday, ok maybe not.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 18, 2006, 11:30:16 PM
Excuse me Bo is it...
Let me explain...that did happen to my son @ PSU Behrend...by your coach niland...Not really a concern of mine if you believe me or not
and yes my son was a player...went on to play for another team in the AMCC...and he was a good player!
I resent the fact that you would actually think that someone would come on here and lie about something...dont really feel the need to explain but I do feel the need to set you straight that I DO NOT lie about things...

sorry if I sound alittle upset, but I am sure that I havent called anyone elses character into question here like Bo did mine!  I am sure that you must be a past PSB student maybe a player, if so I would think you would have more character than that....

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 18, 2006, 11:36:55 PM
Bo, you have me mixed up with someone else. I don't have a son who passed on Behrend to star at Pitt-Bradford. I wish that kid was my son!

You make some good points, but you and cantbestopped should probably stop pointing out the year in which Bradford's only victory against Behrend was in the AMCC championship game as if that somehow proves Behrend was the better team that season or something.

I'm not going to repeat the comparative stats. Suffice to say these are two very good coaches with totally different styles with similar records of success. Has the pendulum swung a little toward Nilan in the past year? Absolutely. But I would be careful about predicting that the Bradford-Behrend rivalry will never be what it was. Are you saying Bradford is going to be "down" forever? Sounds like cantbestopped's assertion that Behrend is the only AMCC team that will ever make a deep run in the NCAA tournament. Predictions like that, in sports, tend to reach up and bite you. Sometimes sooner than you think!

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 18, 2006, 11:39:17 PM
Thanks UPB....

He is a good kid and as I said...a pretty good basketball player

continues to play and coach even now!

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 19, 2006, 12:24:36 AM
All right, enough Behrend vs. Bradford. What are some other good rivalries in the AMCC?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 19, 2006, 02:36:28 PM
UPB,
please keep me out of the argument about this crap.  My statements were a friendly chat with berly about Curren vs Beacom, and i gave some stats about Curren, after berly asked me what did Curren ever do at PSB.  at no time did i ever state behrend was the better team because they won a couple of reg season games, as a matter of fact i remember saying PB had the better teams along that time.  An again i have never said PSB would make a deep run or be the only team able to make a deep run in the NCAA. So keep me and BOKNOWS seperate because i never played or attended either school, but i do think they are both decent programs that aren't what they once were (PSB 11-2 but they aren't as good as they were a few years ago), but programs can come back quickly.  Sounds to me like you guys are a little chippy because PB had a couple bad years in a row. JMO
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 19, 2006, 03:09:31 PM
I hope that you understand that I wasnt addressing anything to you...
I enjoy "friendly" debates and believe me I saw UPB get beaten by PSB and handled it pretty well..(not a very good loser..then I guess who is)
but no beef here with you or actually anyone..just wanted to set the record straight...

As for the AMCC this year...I have yet to make it to a game..
UPB will be in my neck of the woods in a few weeks playing the MT. and PS Altoona...hope to get to both those games...I hate it when work interfers with basketball,,,, :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 19, 2006, 03:45:01 PM
cantbestopped... my apologies. You didn't make the comment about no one else making a run in the tournament. But you did point out that Behrend won two of three the year Bradford beat them for the title. And when calculating the record between the teams during the three years Beacom faced Curren, you didn't include that win, which I thought was curious.

You're right. This is crap. It's ancient history. I'm pretty sure Beacom and Curren have gray hair and arthritic knees by now. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on January 19, 2006, 04:24:41 PM
Some surprises this past Tuesday?? Hilbert over Bradford, sorry 'Hawk' but this was a surprise to me, no offense to the Hawks and similar records... Although I do have much respect for Vandersluis who is becoming a force inside for them I question their stability..MTA over Greensburg another one.. MTA might frog jump a few teams this weekend, if they can knock off Hilbert and Medaille (which they will) this weekend.. Frostburg also throwing themselves right back in the middle of the pack, and with the way they have been playing have a high chance of knocking off Greenburg this weekend (who seems to be all over the place).. And Medaille, getting absolutely DESTROYED.. 11 pts at half are u serious.. Maybe the girls team should play both ends of the men's women double headers, because I think they could have put up a better game.. * note McChucker 0-7 from the floor 2 points, WOW!! From here on out all games in the AMCC are going to be big for these middle teams..  8)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: BOKNOWSBBALL on January 20, 2006, 09:24:46 PM
Statement:

Niland better coach, Behrend better program in my opinion.

Now I can move on.

Looks like Behrend lost a tough one tonight.  Did anyone get to see the game?

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on January 21, 2006, 01:35:46 PM
Last Night's Action:

Lake Erie upends PSB, 52-49.  Williams with 18 pts. and 5 rebs. for the Storm, who improve to 7-0 in conference.  Behrend led 24-20 at the break, and by as many as eight in the second half.  Gahan has 14 for the Nittany Lions and Buczynski was held to 11, eight points below his season average.  Behrend falls to 5-2 in the AMCC.

Medaille squeaked out a home victory over struggling PS-Altoona, 64-61.  Scott Hack led the Mavs with 21 points.  (As an aside, could someone please get ahold of Medaille's SID and tell him just how awful a job he does?  It's bad enough the basketball team is horrendous, but La Roche and Medaille are the only schools in the conference that don't have individual boxes).

La Roche holds on to take Bradford, 64-62.  Redhawks built 15 point second half advantage only to relinquish the lead with just under a minute to play.  Nate Davis had the game-winner.  Devin Taylor returned and had 11 points while Rob Copley led UPB with 32 points.  The Panthers have dropped three straight, and Ryan Race has averaged just over six points a game during the span.

Hilbert took care of Mt. Aloysius, 106-88.  Dallas Reinard led the charge with 30 points while Corey Vander Sluis continued his impressive play with 25.  Roman Mims led the Mounties with 22 points in what seemingly was a route.

Today's matchups:

Frostburg St. at Greensburg in a KEY matchup.  Frostburg can jump right back in the thick of things after a horrendous start.

PS-Altoona at Hilbert.  Hawks look to make it three straight this week and jump into third place all by themselves with a little help (and you all scoffed at me?)

Bradford visits Lake Erie.  Storm looks to keep its conference domination going while the Panthers are a team in disarray.

Mt. Aloysius vs. Medaille.  Mavs look for second two-game winning streak of the season against high powered offensive attack.  Also, with a win, Medaille (MEDAILLE) will have three conference wins and be, dare I say, alive in the playoff chase?

Behrend visits La Roche.  Redhawks have been playing well of late but may meet their match tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 21, 2006, 04:12:36 PM
I think disarray is a bit too strong a word to describe Pitt-Bradford. If they had gotten blown out, yeah. But with the AMCC's leading scorer hobbled and physically unable to contribute much, the Panthers rallied from a 15-point second half deficit on the road to take the lead in the final minute. Maybe a turning point for this team... If another AMCC team had done it, the word of the day might be "gutsy."
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on January 22, 2006, 08:13:14 PM
Disarray may have been too strong of a word, but the Panthers are definitely struggling right now.

Lake Erie dominated from start to finish in a 93-67 drubbing.  Richardson and Williams combined for 34 points, 14 assists, six steals and ZERO turnovers on the game.  Wow.  Dan Thomas and Copley scored 36 combined in the losing effort.  Race-DNP.  What's the injury?  Ankle?

Greensburg squeaked by Frostburg thanks, in large part, to Bill Skavincky's 22 pt., 16 reb. effort.  Duke Cooper added 12 and 7 for the victors, who improve to 5-3 in the AMCC.  Cooper hit a FT to break a 77-77 tie.  Frostburg had six players in double-figures, led by DeBerry Jr.'s 14.

Mt. Aloysius murdered Medaille. 107-78.  McNeil had 31 and 9 in the loss, but the over/under on how many shot attempts he had must be close to 50. I would like to see a men's/women's scrimmage between the two Mavs squads.  Would be interesting...

Hilbert edges PS-Altoona, 75-73, in overtime.  Dallas Reinard three-pointer w/ 2 seconds left sends game to extra session.  Reinard finished w/ 32 and 13 boards while Vander Sluis added 15.  Tyler Franklin led Altoona with 24 off the bench.

Behrend upends LaRoche, 53-43, in a defensive struggle.  Bobcats score just 16 points in the first 20 minutes of play.  JJ Ferguson had 14 for Behrend, who remains alone in second place.  Devin Taylor came off the bench for LaRoche to lead the team with 14.



Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on January 24, 2006, 04:01:07 PM
Things starting to shape up in the AMCC or are they?? Still up in the air, except for Lake Erie who after beating Behrend, not convincingly, by 3 standing alone at the top with a 2 game lead.. Behrend forced Erie to play their style, just couldn't pull it out in the end..

Tonight

Lake Erie travels to 4-4 LaRoche

MTA looks to put some space between them and the bottom 5 as they travel to Frostburg State..

Greenburg looks too keep pace with Behrend as they travel to winless Altoona..

Hilbert travels to Behrend, in search of a HUGE win for the Hawks, moving them into a tie for 2nd place!!!

The Mavs travel to Bradford to face a struggling (Raceless??) Bradford team.. Who am I kidding the Mavs are always struggling..

Lace em' up..  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 24, 2006, 10:29:55 PM
Hawks 19 at the half  ;D not that much better than mavs 11 huh?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 24, 2006, 10:48:03 PM
La Roche upsets Lake Erie. The battle for the dreaded home court in the conference tournament is on.

Saw something at Pitt-Bradford that I've never seen: a  Medaille player, Hack I think, got a technical for pulling his shirt up after getting a foul for charging. Just ran down court, in front of the scorer's table, and did a mini Mia Hamm. Odd.

McNeil... is he McChucker? To hear some of you guys on here, I expected to see some scrub. Nice player. 30 some points. And Ryan Race returned with a vengeance.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 24, 2006, 10:57:19 PM
no "scrub" avgs  20 per game on a team that has no other scorers (because defenses lock in on stopping him), i just stated that the guy is a gun, he shoots the ball 20 times a game damn near thats alot of shots, thats all, hes a hell of an athlete and the kid can shoot the rock, but how much does the rest of his team enjoy watching him shoot all game... 20 shots=20 pts that ratio isnt so hot
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 25, 2006, 10:12:46 AM
He shot well over 50% last night. I guess I don't see the issue with your most talented offensive player (by far) taking a lot of shots. Are you saying he's selfish?

I've admitted before I'm not the most knowledgeable basketball fan in the world, so I'm not familiar with the shot to point ratio stat. But if you make 10 of 20 field goal attempts for 20 points, that seems pretty good. Wouldn't 50% from the field for a season put you among the top 10 or 15 in the conference -- and even more impressive if you're not a down low player scoring a lot of layups and put backs? Please educate me guys -- and for once I'm not being sarcastic. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 25, 2006, 11:35:35 AM
Nice to see that UPB got a win last nite!

Nice seeing Race back in the line up..never did hear what happen to him..maybe you could enlighten me UPB88..

Hoping to get to see them in action next weekend @ PS Altoona since the traveling time is cut in half for us...

My son would love to head to Bradford this weekend but with being in the real world of work and coaching..no time

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 25, 2006, 03:04:37 PM
upb,
you're no less educated than anyone else on this board.  shooting 50% at any time isn't a horrible ratio(but he shots 36%), Kobe just got alot of slack for scoring 81 point but he shot 61% (28-46)from the field 46 shots to score 81 pts .  James shoots the ball 20X a game and not to mention that doesn't take into account the FT's he attempts.  If it takes u 10-12 shots a game to score twenty that's good, 20 shots to score 20 is something that anyone of decent skill level can do it.. And believe me its no easier to score down low than it is to chuck up jumpers all game, ask any collegiate post player you know.
To put it into perspective ill use some players I have heard mentioned before (during their best scoring season)
Curren 11 shots/per 18 pts/per   shots on the year (333 shots in 29 gms)
Beacom 15 shots/per 22.5 pts/per   shots on the year (428 in 28 gms)
Smith 11.5 shots/per 20pts/per   shots on the year (308 in 26 games)
Conlon 12 shots/per 17pts/per   shots on the year (313 in 26 gms)
Pringle 12.5 shots/per 17pts/per   shots on the year (328 in 26gms)
Tyszka 13shots/per 19pts/per   shots on the year (320 in 24 gms)
McNeil 19shots/per 21pts/per   shots on the year(304 in about 15 sat all but about 6 min in one) he'll end up shooting the ball 500 X in one year that's amazing, especially to score the same amount the above mentioned scored in far far less. And in Beacom case to score  less as well.

Mcchucker 304 shots
hack 159
reinard 104 (not around anymore)

McNeil + hack =463
Medaille (rest)=452(including reinard 104)
there still in the lead

Not bustin your balls just tryin to shed some light on my opinion, i do think he's a talented player and can light it up, but this is 5 on 5 not one on one isn't it. and wins are more important than pts, i think.
Something a coach once told me, that anyone on a bad team can score points, this isnt football someone has to score. Although 11pts(Mavs)and 19pts(Hawks)at the half is pretty close.

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 26, 2006, 10:18:42 AM
Good post, cantbestopped. I might just print it out and take it to the bathroom for further study. :) I didn't say I was less educated, just less knowledgeable about basketball. But if you keep schooling me, I might just get my PhD in Hoop Science.

I'm surprised McNeil is shooting only 36%. He certainly shot it well at Bradford. It is an interesting theory: if he shot the ball less, Medaille would have a better chance to win. That seems to be your argument.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 26, 2006, 02:31:12 PM
Does it really matter if he shoots the ball less or more they aren't beating anyone anyhow. Reinard doesnt look to be around anymore, and milford on his best day can only put up 15 max.  But Mcneil shoots alot (19 shots/per) and not at a good percentage, thats all i was sayin, people have said on this board hes a great player and i think he isnt by any means (he could be eventually) but right now hes a gun on a terrible team.  And by the way i think u could print out alot of these posts(including some of your own) and take em to the bathroom to wipe up with, mine wasn't bullsiht i was just tryin to explain somethin. I always give u the wrong impressions of the points i am trying to get across, I dont give a damn if he shoot the ball 50 times or 5 times they arent winning more than 5 games regardless.  the only difference is how many he scored, which really doesn't matter.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 26, 2006, 02:57:02 PM
Dude, Keanu says chill out. :) I was obviously kidding about the bathroom. That's what the little smiley face was for. I complimented your post. It's rare that anyone, myself included, does any research to back up their posts. You did a nice job. The only thing I would nitpick about your posts is making fun of Medaille. I don't think any players deserve that. Maybe not the best team around, but those kids put the same hours and blood, sweat and tears that you do or did (I assume you're a current or former player). Yeah, I make fun of Behrend and Coach Niland a bit, but given their historical success, it's pretty absurd. Just a bit of Pitt-Penn State trash talk. And, if you've visited other forums on this site, you will know that the entire AMCC before last season was the subject of scorn for their "Bumblin' B" status (Pool B).

If you're talking about Dallas Reinard, he is still playing, I think, for Hilbert. At least he was just named AMCC player of the week. Good player in an improving program.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on January 26, 2006, 03:42:20 PM
On the McNiel, shooting comment.. I can't blame the kid for shooting.. Any one would that is somewhat of a player, would do the same thing.. The fact of the matter is besides him I don't think anyone else on the team is capable of scoring over 10 points a game right now.. Maybe some of those players are unwilling or hesitant to shoot, or maybe they just don't get the rock because of James. The fact of the matter is: he is a good athlete, and former d2 player.. I feel if you were to stick him on a competitive team where he needed to accept a role he would, and be a solid contributor.. Do I think he would still score 20+ a game, no.. Truth being if he didn't shoot the ball 20+ times, who would put the ball in the basket for the Mavs? Hack one dementional (spot up shooter), their front line is too small and unexperienced, and they have no PG play.. Yes his percentages are low, however he is playing at the guard spot not making 6-8 lay-ups a game.. Although I'm sure a lot of his attempts are poor looks, I'm sure his options are very limited.. It is hard to score when you don't have much talent around you.. It is easy as an opposing team to designate a game play to stop one player, and let the other 4 beat you.. If there is no chance of the other 4 putting up any points.. In the past 3 years the only some what dominant player the Mavs had was Smith, until he quit.. He was strong, big, had a mid range, and most importantly had somewhat of a supporting cast (Bryant, Gioia, Perioli).. But last year struggled with the injury to Bryant.. Looking at past seasons stats Perioli looked to be their leading scorer after Smith, however I don't think he had a choice and just took the most shots because there was no one else to shoot or score.. Result 0-25.. I'm not trying to defend James, I am just simply stating that I think he knows how to play the game is just on a bad team.. And to be a good player on a horrible team is a tough transition.. Does he give his team the best chance to score?? Yes.. Do the Mavs have 3 wins with out him... I don't think they do.. Would I have a problem with my best player taking 40% of my teams shots?? No... As long as they were good shots, and not forced, which I'm sure a lot of his are based on limited talent and ability of team mates.. When your losing it's easy to point fingers at the leading scorer of the team and blame them, for shooting too much, or being selfish, not a team player etc... I am not knocking the Mavs in any way.. I am happy to see them get 3 wins so far this year.. Maybe even a few more before years end.. Every team goes through transition and turmoil, hopefully they can overcome and start to rebuild what they were on their way to rebuilding in 2003...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 26, 2006, 04:10:23 PM
UPB,
Im chilled, i wasn't mad.  And its easy for me to nitpick things now because i  sit on my ass play no basketball, and critque current players, medaille puts in just as much hard work as anyone else but just doesnt have the horses. i just like to talk a lttle doodo and see if people respond.(especially to u because your responses are usuaslly pretty good)
Bimbo,
I have been saying that all along, all though i might bash James for shootin alot his team isnt very good and what other choice does he have.  I just point out that the rest of the team could throw in the towel on him for not gettin their looks.

Oh yeah i was talking about the reinard from medaille (freshman) good shooter
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 27, 2006, 10:56:46 PM
Good game at Pitt-Bradford tonight with Pitt-Greensburg nipping the Panthers 77-74. To me the key to the game was three three-pointers in the first half by Ed Montgomery of UPG. Bradford was threatening to blow things open, leading by 10. But the treys got UPG back in the game. A 20-10 UPB lead disappeared into a 36-36 tie at the half. Late chances for the Bradford boys to take the lead and then tie it just weren't meant to be. Worth the 4 bucks admission though. Heck, UPG's pregame huddle was worth the price!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: BOKNOWSBBALL on January 28, 2006, 12:45:36 PM
I was just wondering who you thought would be the best shooter in the league. 

I would go with JJ Ferguson from Behrend.  He is by far the most consistent.  He leads the league in free throw percentage, threes made, three point percentage and averages 15 a game while only playing 24 minutes a game. 

I belevie he doesnt get much credit  for his shooting ability, but if you put him on a different team that runs and guns he might average close 20 a game.  Put him on hilbert or medialle and its not doubt 20 a game.  With the way behrend slows the game down neither team gets up as many shots.

I think he is the AMCC verison of JJ Redick.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Yep on January 28, 2006, 11:44:58 PM
Has anyone noticed that Pitt-Greensburg with wins over Bradford and Behrend on the road this weekend, is now in second place! From a team that struggled early, they look to be the hottest team in the league right now, and with the 1-2 punch of Cooper and Scavincky, they could really challenge here in the second half!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on January 29, 2006, 09:34:59 AM
What a lot of people don't know about UPG is that in their huddle before entering the court for the pregame warmup the last four games, they've been sacrificing a virgin goat. With everyone's attention on the players' gyrations and chanting, they are able to do it and clean up the mess without anyone seeing. Except me. And, yes, I will be calling for AMCC Commissioner Donna Ledwin to investigate.

Seriously, good for Greensburg. Anyone who knocks off Behrend is my friend. By the way, no one has mentioned La Roche beating Lake Erie, then losing to Medaille. AMCCertifiable.

As for Bradford, with last night's overtime loss to Frostburg, they've now lost six games by four points or fewer. I'll sound like a homer for saying this, but if they can get some wins on their four-game road trip, then knock off Behrend or Lake Erie at home, they could be a very confident and dangerous team in the playoffs -- if they make it.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 29, 2006, 01:44:21 PM
Wow another loss for UPB...

I hope that they can get on track soon!
time is running out...

Going to see them this weekend in Altoona...

Good luck guys!

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: jzflak15 on January 29, 2006, 08:11:20 PM
McNeil...yes is a gunner...but he has to,,and let me tell you i was at the game when they beat La Roche..hes the truth...yes he takes alot of bad shots...but he makes alot of them...supposedly JJ ferguson from ehrend broke his ankle hes done for the year..as for brent dover he transferred to toledo...where he red shirted this season..im ahead of all of yous!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: jzflak15 on January 29, 2006, 08:12:59 PM
Dan Thomas has been hot shootin the ball well....No 1 is going ot beat lake erie in the playoffs....they will have home court advantage throughout...and they will be gettin washington back who messed his ankle real bad
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 29, 2006, 10:11:12 PM
OK lets settle this once and for all, we all agree Mc(whatever u want to call him) shoots the ball abit to much (but on his team there is no better option), plus no one would argue that he's a terrific athlete, I would just like to know if his teammates enjoy playin with him, i sure wouldn't if he shot that much. 

Plus,
"No 1 is going ot beat lake erie in the playoffs....they will have home court advantage throughout" from our new friend  didn't they just lose to Laroche. Yikes

Nobody knows whos gonna win anything in this league so we can all just sit back and enjoy the games.
One thing I do know, If UPB88, and Berly's beloved PittBrad don't pickup the pace they could be on the outside looking in :D. Of course the Mavs or PSA would have to win a few games and thats a stretch, medaille only plays PSA once more, and their fresh out of Laroche games.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 30, 2006, 11:23:17 AM
One thing I do know, If UPB88, and Berly's beloved PittBrad don't pickup the pace they could be on the outside looking in .


Dont really think its necesarry to put the little smiley there...leads me to believe that you might be alittle happy about UPB situation..

But I do agree...as I talked with my son about their situation,
his take on it is the fact that not being able to finish a close game at the end is more that they are alittle inexperienced.  I think that someone on that team needs to step up and be a leader..but seeing that I havent seen them play, not sure who that would be...

can get back to you on that after the weekend, we're heading over saturday nite to see them

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: baller3 on January 30, 2006, 03:37:54 PM
i'm baaaaaaaack, not playing however but still supporting the hawks of hilbert college, looking to compete for a playoff spot this year.  team is only looking to improve.  Hawks have improved steadily over the past 3 years in the win column.  mikey reyes running the point building on his success last year at the 1 averaging more assists a game and dallas TEXAS putting up mvp worthy numbers, addition of vander sluis gives hawks presence inside to compete with top performers of other teams in the post, cant forget about glen ufland who isnt shooting as good as usual but will get hot sooner or later, go hawks

SKT
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 30, 2006, 07:18:46 PM
berly im sorry i meant to press the wink  ;) Ibecause I do think they are one of the top six teams in the league and them making the playoffs or not depends heavily on their upcoming game with Hilbert if they can win that game i think they are in decent position to sneak in, if they lose it will be an uphill battle.
they do however have a favorable schedule:
Home:                                   Away:
LE                                         Hilbert
PSB                                       PSA
Laroche                                Medaille
                                            Mount

Some very winable road games and at home, hey u never know
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 31, 2006, 10:28:40 AM
Lets hope that they do something
I would hate to see them not make the playoffs this year

not sure when the last time that happened
anyone have that answer for me?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on January 31, 2006, 02:01:08 PM
A couple of important games in the AMCC tonight:

The big one is obviously Hilbert-Pitt-Bradford in Hamburg.  Both teams are struggling heading into the contest.  The Hawks will look to end a 3-game losing skid while the Panthers have dropped two straight and six of the last seven.  Hilbert handled UPB on the road earlier this season, but the stakes are much greater tonight.  While it isn't a must-win for Bradford, there isn't much margin for error in the remaining weeks if they drop this game. 

Aloysius at Greensburg is another interesting matchup.  The Mounties defeated the Bobcats earlier this season and are looking to vault themselves into a tie for fourth place with LaRoche.  Look for Greensburg to come out firing and take control of the game early.

If you look at the standings, Altoona at Frostburg looks to be a mismatch.  But if you look closer, you'll see that PSA has played a lot of the teams tough and lost by only three to the Bobcats earlier in the year.  FSU, after a horrendous league start, has come on of late and are looking to get back to .500 in league.

Medaille at PS-Behrend.  Laughable.  Although the Lions have no one that can handle McNeil one-on-one, their team defense is just so good it will be a mismatch from the start.

Action's starting to heat up...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on January 31, 2006, 10:36:52 PM
Well the panthers are alive, the day couln't have worked out any better for them, they win, frostburg and mount lose, and i know some think i'm a mcneil hater, but i'm not, but why does a guy play 38 minutes in a game that they are down 41-15 at half time?(scrub time is a gun's best friend) Drew Secker came off the bench and tossed in 20 in 14 minutes and 9 shots.   But congrats to UPB the season begins now. And congrats to PSA i knew it would come.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on January 31, 2006, 11:20:17 PM
Good to see that UPB won tonight...

now off to PSA on friday and the Mount on saturday

maybe the playoffs are on the horizon

I hope

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 01, 2006, 10:19:06 AM
Look at Greensburg go. They are on a roll. Waajid was player of the week.

Did you know that Pitt-Bradford is second in the nation in free-throw shooting? They are deadly. They also have the fewest turnovers in the AMCC. Those are stats that should be huge down the stretch. But they struggle to rebound, which could be telling too. They need two wins in the next three road games, then they need some magic at home against Behrend, Lake Erie and La Roche.

This is a fun time of year. Good luck to all!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on February 01, 2006, 01:19:40 PM
I gotta agree with you UPB88..magic is needed and
boy do I love this time of year...

Basketball
Super Bowl Sunday on the horizon with the Steelers posied to make it 5..(got my fingers crossed)

I think I might have to make a trip to Bradford for one of those games...not sure I can do the Behrend game.(not a big fan of that team or coach...dont need the frustration)  but maybe LaRoche....
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 03, 2006, 10:08:22 AM
Big game in the AMCC tonight -- Lake Erie at Greensburg. I think we'll find out a lot about both teams tonight.

Go Seahawks! Sorry Berlychick... I just can't stand Bill Cowher and Jerome Bettis. One for the thumb... I'm a Bills fan, and we're looking for one for the thumb too. :) I guess now you understand my animosity. Seriously, why does Bettis jump up after every three-yard gain like he just scored the winning touchdown in the Super Bowl? I really hate the celebrations of mundane plays in the NFL.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hut1 on February 03, 2006, 10:39:09 PM
I for one will be at the Behrend/Bradford game...Can't wait
go Panthers.........
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 03, 2006, 11:12:05 PM
UPG over LEC. Oh my.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on February 04, 2006, 01:03:08 PM
Well UPB88 to each their own..

But I love my Steelers and have since birth...born and raised in Black and Gold..

Ok now I understand..a Bills fan...my bad...

dont like Cowher and Bettis...ok I have heard that before but no one ever has an explanation as to why they dont like Cowher..enlighten me..

and if I where that old and had everyone telling me I was too fat to play and got in the endzone...baby would you see a dance...I love the celebrations..makes the game alittle more interesting

So my predictions: a good hard fought game...alot of defense and low scoring..who will win....?  not going to say...just a prayer for the Steelers..

as for the game tonight going to the Mount to see the Panthers...
hope for a good game there too!
going with Matt and Big Will...man am i in good company or what

hey BTW  how did Clearfield do against Bradford last nite?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 04, 2006, 01:21:18 PM
The Owls beat the Bisons. Bisons... I like that name. Here's a link from the Bradford paper.

http://www.BradfordEra.com/site/tab2.cfm?newsid=16065474&BRD=2725&PAG=461&dept_id=562987&rfi=6

Let's go Panthers tonight. Gotta beat that trap and score some easy baskets on the Mounties.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on February 04, 2006, 07:47:37 PM
And it just continues to get more cluttered in the AMCC with five teams having six wins in conference as we head down the final stretch of play.

Bradford dropped a HUGE game on the road at Aloysius in a game that could have separated them from the pack and thrown the Mounties to the bottom of the heap.  Five players scored in double figures for Aloysius, who have definitely improved from last season.

Following a disappointing home loss to Bradford in a game that also could have given the Hawks some breathing room in the race for #4, Hilbert went on the road in a tough place to play and came away with a 21-point victory at Medaille.  No stats available because Medaille's SI dept. is barely breathing, but McNeil had 29 for the Mavs.  Big win to stop a four-game drought for Hilbert.

Frostburg fell to Lake Erie, which came as no surprise.  The Storm were bound to come out with reckless abandon after falling to UPG last night. 

UPG beat LaRoche in a romp, which could be very troublesome for the rest of the league.  The Bobcats are hitting their stride just at the right time and look destined to make it a three-team race down the stretch at the top.

Behrend faces Altoona and it should be finishing anytime now, but it would be shocking if anything other than a PSB win resulted.

The Race for the Playoffs (No pun intended towards Ryan)

4.) Hilbert (6-7)
5.) LaRoche (6-7)
6.) Mt. Aloysius (6-7)
7.) Frostburg State (6-8)
8.) Pitt-Bradford (6-8)

If the season ended today, this is the way the standings would look (I think).  Hilbert, LaRoche and Mount are all tied.  LaRoche and Hilbert split, while the Hawks beat the Mounties and the Redhawks lost.  This means Hilbert, with a 2-1 "pool" record against the two gets the nod.  LaRoche would get the #5 because it has a win against Hilbert.  Frostburg would get the tiebreaker against Bradford due to its 90-86 overtime victory earlier this year. 

The upcoming games for each school:

Hilbert plays at home against UPG and Frostburg and on the road against Behrend, Mount Aloysius and PS-Altoona.  Figuring that they should have beaten FSU on the road if not for atrocious foul shooting, I will give them a split in those two games.  Loss to Behrend is a given.  Mount and PSA on the road to end the season should be interesting.  Altoona's a good team and could give them a run for their money on Friday.  But with a ton to play for and a playoff berth on the line, look for Saturday's matchup at Mt. Aloysius at the end of the season to decide a playoff berth. 2-2 with one outstanding.

LaRoche goes on the road to face Lake Erie, PS Behrend and Bradford while entertaining PSA and Mt. Aloysius.  LaRoche is a funny team, because they have played well against some good competition.  But you have to figure they will lose at least 2 out of 3 on the road and then most likely beat PSA and Mount at home.  3-2 finish and maybe 2-3 (Bradford)

Mt. Aloysius visits LaRoche and Lake Erie and then face Frostburg, Hilbert and Medaille at home.  They most likely lose the two road games, then have one definite win against Medaille (you would think).  1-2 with 2 outstanding.

Frostburg visits Mt. Aloyisus, Medaille and Hilbert before ending the regular season at Pitt Greensburg.  I think they beat Medaille on the road and lose to both Hilbert and UPG.  1-2 with one outstanding.

Bradford visits Medaille then plays host to Behrend, Lake Erie and LaRoche.  Only one "should" win with Medaille... The rest are tough games.  1-2 with LaRoche.

The Iffy Games
Hilbert at Mt. Aloysius - Over the past two seasons, the Hawks have beaten the Mounties by 18, 20 and 15.  Not exactly close games.  Granted, anything can happen, but history is the best predictor of the future so give this game to the Hawks. 

Hilbert finishes with 9-9 conference mark.

LaRoche at Bradford - LaRoche beat Bradford 64-62 earlier in the year, but Ryan Race was hobbled the entire way.  I expect Bradford to come out excited at home and beat the Bobcats.

Bradford finishes with 8-10 conference mark.
LaRoche finishes with 8-10 conference mark.

Frostburg at Aloysius - The Bobcats destroyed the Mounties by 24 earlier in the year.  Look for the same on Feb. 7.

Frostburg finishes with 8-10 conference mark.
Aloysius finishes with 7-11 conference mark.

Now obviously, both Frostburg and Altoona could knock off Hilbert.  I'm trying to be impartial but I really think at home Hilbert will win against the Bobcats and in the final weekend with everything riding on the games and Altoona out of it they will be fired up.  But I could be wrong.  And that's why they play the games.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on February 04, 2006, 07:52:26 PM
Eating crow as we speak.  Altoona beat Behrend, 52-50.  WOW.  Upset of the year, and maybe the century.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 04, 2006, 08:00:11 PM
I've learned not to be too surprised at the AMCC. People tend to overrate, and underrate, the teams. I honestly don't think there's all that much difference top to bottom.

Great post as always Hawk. Man, your long-range predictions take some guts! By the way, just curious -- why is Medaille a tough place to play?

As for the tiebreakers, don't they look at teams' records against the top teams in the conference? I think I remember that on the AMCC web site about this time last year. Could be wrong...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on February 06, 2006, 12:33:39 AM
Went to the game in Mt Aloysuis...not the best game I ever saw the Panthers play....

2 injuries to report..

1...Copley not sure what

2...Depue  a cut above the eye...looked pretty nasty but he returned to the game and did a pretty good job..

Hopefully they can rebound and take care of business next weekend and then we're heading up to the last weekend in Bradford..

Oh yeah there was a football game tonight

WAY TO GO STEELERS......sorry guys had to be done

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 06, 2006, 03:10:05 PM
Congratulations to the Steelers. The stars were definitely aligned for them, that's for sure. But they made their own luck -- huge plays were the difference.

I guess I have to say something about the AMCC to make this post legit. Big one tomorrow night. Frostburg at Mount Aloysius. And are there any more upsets in the making? Behrend at Hilbert... La Roche at Lake Erie.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: NewportPlayer3 on February 07, 2006, 12:02:42 AM
Though a bad record PS Altoona is a dangerous team. They play everyone tough. And now it seems that they are starting to finish games off instead of fading in the last 3 minutes. They are playing hard nose defense and team ball on offense

They have had 4-5 games where they have had the lead int he finals minutes only to let it slip. THey might get some upsets in the final weeks.


I would say JJ ferguson is one of the top shooters in the league. But with the team hes on he neverseems to be taking the most contested shots neither
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: NewportPlayer3 on February 07, 2006, 12:06:28 AM
Who else is up there?

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: baller3 on February 07, 2006, 10:28:55 AM
hawks of hilbert looking to upset behrend tonight in the Burg, vander sluis has to body Buczynski and Gahan and MUST contest 3 point shots because behrend can shoot the lights out, however, leave ufland or reinard open and they will kill you from beyond the arc.  bench players leight and mcHale need to step up and continue to play physical in the post, get behrends big guys in foul trouble early, reyes has to play calm and continue doing what he does best, distributing the ball and playing hounding defense and i see no problem with the hawks pulling an upset win and inching closer and closer to that goal of postseason play...

yours truly,
SKT
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hut1 on February 07, 2006, 10:30:29 PM
http://www.upb.pitt.edu/athletics/varsity_sports/mens_basketball/medm0207.htm#GAME.BOX


Panthers get big win !
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 07, 2006, 10:32:23 PM
And not to steal Hawk Backer's thunder, but Hilbert edged Behrend. That sound you heard coming from Western New York was Hilbert arriving in the AMCC. Great win guys!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on February 07, 2006, 11:08:26 PM
what happened to mcneil, anyone know
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: NewportPlayer3 on February 08, 2006, 02:19:15 AM
Greensburg Escapes with a win against a weak altoona team. From what i hear the game was tied with 1-2 minutes left. Altoona dressed 8 and  played without #24 their 2nd leading scorer. PSa had great looks against PG but jsut missed shots from 3 (under 20% tonight)they had been making (43% on the year)....


Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 08, 2006, 11:46:44 AM
Time to take a deep breath and reexamine the AMCC. Lake Erie is on top, but they've proven themselves mortal. Behrend is in disarray (how come their fans only post when they're winning?). OK, the word disarray is just a jab at my Lion pal on here. Behrend has just lost some very close games. Pitt-Greensburg is on fire and looks to be hell bent to avenge their AMCC championship game loss a year ago. Top three teams? That's fair to say. But the Hilbert Hawks of Hamburg are knocking on heaven's door and seem to have arrived as a force in the AMCC. One team that is threatening to make some noise: Pitt-Bradford, which has won three of four on the road, including a win at Hilbert that now seems a little more impressive. Frostburg is up and down. I don't have a good handle on Mount Aloysius, but their loss to Frostburg could be a killer. La Roche is fading, but Altoona is stirring, although they are resigned to playing the spoiler. Medaille is gaining respectability (they're out of the basement at least), but the postseason is still at least a year off. Bottom line: the AMCC is as wacky as ever. I can't get into players and strategies like others on this board -- how's my analysis, guys?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on February 08, 2006, 12:18:04 PM
I don't think you can call Hilbert a force quite yet, but it was a very impressive win that they had last night.

Granted, Behrend is a little discombobulated at the moment, but a win over an NCAA team from a year ago is pretty impressive nonetheless.

All of your other assessments are pretty much on.  I would say Greensburg is playing the best basketball out of anyone right now...  Lake Erie, no doubt, has more talent top to bottom but with Duke Cooper running the show he can make people around him better and take control of the game late.

Updated standings

1) Lake Erie (12-2) - Should be 2 easy wins this weekend w/ Aloysius and Altoona
2) UPGreensburg (12-3) - Playing great, on the road against Hilbert and Medaille - Should be two wins but Hilbert may hang tough after upset of Behrend
3) Behrend (10-5) - Struggling a little bit right now - Look to get back on track against Bradford on Saturday
4) Hilbert (7-7) - Fresh off upset of Behrend - Face Greensburg in tough matchup before rematch against Frostburg in a game they could and should win
5) Frostburg (7-8) - Medaille and Hilbert - I look for them to split this weekend
6) Bradford (7-8) - Can the Panthers hand the Lions their third straight defeat?
7) Mt. Aloysius (6-8) - Lake Erie and La Roche - The beat LaRoche earlier this season... is a huge game to keep their playoff hopes alive.
8) LaRoche (6-8) - Aloysius and Altoona - Both tough games with Altoona playing well... Will be crucial to their playoff chances.
9) Medaille (3-11) - Greensburg and Frostburg - A chance to get one against Frostburg... no chance vs. other Bobcats.
10) Altoona (2-12) - Lake Erie and LaRoche - I have no idea how Altoona is going to play but they could pull off the upset against either one of these teams.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on February 08, 2006, 01:45:48 PM
Thanks for the McNeil update; medaille is out of the basement for now (still got 4 conference games left), Mavs just don't have the players to compete.  Recruiting there is horrendous; their coach isn't from the area and Buff St. is right up the road, which equals double trouble for Mavs, coach Jacob did a good job recruiting players when he was there, although their personalities where often in question at least there was some success on the court. I know some of you guys are thinking Coach DICK has only been there a couple of years give him a chance.  Coach deGrandpre has only been at Hilbert a couple of years as well.  Coach deGrandpre is from the area and does a hell of a job recruiting, plus he runs a better system, that's why Hilbert contends and Medaille mediocrity is not ending any times in the near future.

As far as the league itself I love to see the parity I think its great, but oddly enough the league overall is 30-37 out of conference and that includes the Mount whipping of some church league teams, but saying that in think if PSB, LE or UPG( I say "if" because you never know if one of the lower seeds get hot in the tourney, because i dont think were getting any at large bids) make it to the tourney any of them could win a game or maybe even two. End of the season should be fun.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: NewportPlayer3 on February 08, 2006, 03:33:07 PM
the difference between the #4 team and #10 team is not that much. On any night any of these teams could beat each other. its crazy
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on February 09, 2006, 11:07:48 AM
WOW
I have been away for awhile...
things are heating up and it sounds like Hilbert as taken to the AMCC pretty well this season!

As for Pitt/Bradford...they are still in there...
they have 3 games that they need to get at least 2 of them..
PSUBehrend...Lake Erie and LaRoche...
I hope to make it to one of those games
it will proably be LaRoche which could be a game that they need to get into the playoffs...Nice to see PSUAltoona coming on...

well I love this time of year!
All the games are big ones and everyone is pretty well even when you
think of the end of the season their butts are tired and it all comes down to quote Tim McGraw "How bad do you want it?"... :)

Good luck guys! 

I love this game!!! 8)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: baller3 on February 09, 2006, 11:25:20 AM
hawks come up big with win over behrend, perhaps my words of wisdom motivated my guys to an upset win over and always deadly behrend team.  ufland comes up big knockin down 4 of 6 for 12 while vandersluis grabs another doube double with 12 and 12, reyes dishes 9 dimes and reinard had dissapointing night but smoothly sinks throws at the end of the game to win it, great win guys!!!

kenney
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 10, 2006, 08:17:34 PM
Updated (thru games of Thursday 2/9) QoWIs for GL teams (source: Pat Coleman, QoWI Board, Multi-Region Topics (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=2910.105)):

1 (7 overall) Carnegie Mellon    11.000    13-2 (regional record)
2 (13) Wittenberg    10.765    15-2
3 (18) Wooster    10.556    17-1
4 (21) Hope    10.500    12-2
5 (23) Baldwin-Wallace    10.400    18-2
6 (29) Calvin    10.111    8-1
7 (45) Albion    9.727    9-2
8 (48) Lake Erie    9.706    14-3
9 (74) Wilmington    9.273    16-6
10 (75) Bethany    9.250    16-4
11 (78) Muskingum    9.158    13-6
12 (92) Ohio Northern    9.000    12-5
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on February 11, 2006, 02:40:04 AM
Hilbert beats Greensburg in convincing fashion, 102-89.  Hawks shoot 60.0% from the field in the victory.  Vander Sluis turning into a star, 23 pts., 13 rebs.  Reyes 2 rebs short of triple-double 14 pts., 10 asst., 8 rebs.  Hilbert playing really well right now...

Lake Erie destroys Altoona, 73-45.  Storm breeze with 16 players getting minutes.  Amazing.  Hunt with 15, Richardson (who, by the way, is my pick for POY) had 14.  Lions get 16 from Tyler Franklin.

Frostburg sneaks by Medaille, 80-78 in OT.  McNeil with 48! points on 19-43 shooting... interesting.  10 boards as well.  Kid's a player.  Bobcats have four in double figures, with Owen hitting a 3 w/ :15 to send it into OT.  Frostburg 8-8 in league.  Very nice after horrendous start.

LaRoche has no trouble with Mt. Aloysius, 110-81.  Kostorick w/ 22, 13 above season average.  Kostewicz w/ 19 and 10.  Aloysius falls to 6-9 with game against Lake Erie upcoming.

Saturday shaping up to be huge in race for playoffs...

Hilbert can solidify spot with win over Frostburg.

LaRoche can further its effort with victory over tough Altoona squad (although they played like crap tonight).

Bradford looks to give Behrend third straight loss and help its cause by evening its conference mark to 8-8.

Greensburg vs. Medaille should be a win for UPG but they must stop McNeil... Shouldn't be a problem.

Aloysius needs a win against top squad LEC if they want any chance at tournament berth.

AMCC at its finest...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on February 11, 2006, 02:49:45 AM
Sorry... 29 and 12 for Vander Sluis... can't read apparently!

Nice game Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 11, 2006, 03:17:30 PM
Yep, another good game for the Hawks. And a good showing by the Mavs against those pesky Bobcats.

If I was daring, like Hawk Backer, I would call Medaille's "upset" over Greensburg. I'm not going to, but I bet it's a game.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 11, 2006, 06:14:35 PM
Well Pitt-Bradford gave Behrend a game at Bradford today before a nice crowd, but Behrend prevailed, 67-58. The difference was Kevin Buczynski, who finished 8-11 from the field and 8-11 from the foul line for 24 points, 18 in the second half. He took over a tie game with seven or eight minutes left and keyed the Lions on a quick 9-0 run that effectively put the game away. Bradford led at halftime by a point after overcoming a 12-point deficit but didn't carry the momentum into the second half. Fourth conference loss at home for Bradford in a building where they used to never lose. It's touch and go now as to making the playoffs.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 17, 2006, 11:26:56 PM
Pat has updated the national QoWI standings (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=2910.132) through games of yesterday.  Tonight, Carnegie Mellon was upset at Emory, but the Tartans retain their control of the UAA Pool A bid by virtue of Rochester and NYU also losing (to Case and Chicago, respectively.)  CMU is now tied with WashU. atop the UAA, and the Tartans swept the Bears so they own the tiebreaker.  NYU, Rochester, and Chicago are all a game back with two games left.  In other words, all bets are off regarding how (and if) CMU is getting to the Big Dance.  In the data that follows, I've updated CMU's QoWI.

So here's the Great Lakes teams in the top 120 of national QoWI, along with their regional record:
Legend:  Team -- Regional Record and win % (ranking w/in region for win %) -- QoWI (national/regional rank)

Wooster -- 19-1 .950 (1) -- 10.700 (11*/1)
CMU -- 13-4 .765 (9) -- 10.556 (13*/2)
Wittenberg -- 16-3 .842 (5) -- 10.368 (17/3)
Calvin -- 10-1 .909 (2) -- 10.182 (21/4)
Baldwin-Wallace -- 19-3 .864 (4) -- 10.136 (23/5)
Hope -- 14-2 .875 (3) -- 9.750 (47/6)
Albion -- 10-3 .769 (8 ) -- 9.462 (59/7)
Bethany -- 17-4 .810 (7) -- 9.333 (73/8)
Lake Erie -- 15-3 .833 (6) -- 9.278 (74/9)
Ohio Northern -- 14-5 .737 (11) -- 8.947 (102/10)
Wilmington  -- 18-6 .750 (10) -- 8.875 (106/11)
Ohio Wesleyan -- 15-6 .714 (12) -- 8.810 (108/12)

*I've approximated where Wooster and CMU would be based on CMU's loss tonight, which was only a 3-QoWI-point game for them).  The other national rankings may be slightly off, due to the other UAA results tonght, but should be close.

I think we can officially strike OWU, Wilma, and ONU from any further Pool C consideration; it's win or go home for these teams next week.  Lake Erie and Bethany are hanging on to a tattered fringe of Pool C at the very best; Bethany still looks fairly solid for a Pool B bid, and LEC can still get in by winning the AMCC tournament.  The top 7 then shape up this way, as I see it:

1. Wooster
2. Calvin (beating Albion on Weds. was a big boost to their QoWI, while Hope's QoWI actually fell in beating lowly Alma)
3. Baldwin-Wallace
4. Wittenberg (mostly because B-W beat Wooster, who beat Witt twice)
5 (tie). Hope
5 (tie). CMU (a cop-out, but CMU's QoWI is still 0.8 higher than Hope's, offsetting the poor win %)
7. Albion (and Albion's QoWI will go down this weekend, win or lose vs. lowly Olivet)

Pool C prospects: 
NCAC: Woo and Witt are both in regardless of what happens.  So if OWU wins the tournament, NCAC gets three bids.  :o
MIAA:  Calvin is in regardless; Hope is in if they reach the MIAA final.  Albion likely needs to win the MIAA to earn a berth.  All three suffer from playing QoWI-damaging first-round games in the MIAA tournament (against Olivet, Alma, and Adrian, all with win %s below .333 and therefore just 8-point QoWI wins).  Plus Albion has a season-ending game with Olivet that will hurt them even more, QoWI-wise.
OAC: Baldwin-Wallace is in regardless; anyone else has to win the OAC tourney to get in.
AMCC: Lake Erie's last two games are worth 11 and 15 QoWI points if they win, so a trip to the conference tournament final may put them in the running for one of the last pool C bids.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 18, 2006, 02:50:11 PM
I've got to give some love to LEC's Reggie Richardson, who reached into Pitt-Bradford's throat last night and pulled out their heart, nailing five three-pointers, all near the end of the game, to bring the Storm back from the dead. LEC was down by 10-13 points in the final five minutes until Richardson got hot and started popping in treys, like people eat Pringles. It was one of the greatest performances I've seen at Bradford games in years. One of the threes came with just 7 point something seconds left to tie the game. Then some scrub :) hit another three pointer with less than two seconds left in overtime to give LEC the lead by two. Unbelievable!

Lake Erie had an off night and trailed by 17 early in the second half. They got their focus back and pulled themselves together long enough to win the game, but really only because the second leading free throw shooting team in the nation fell apart at the foul line in the final minute. So, yeah, I wasn't terribly impressed by the Storm. They were a pretty cocky bunch before the game and seemed to play like they didn't take Bradford seriously, which was a mistake given that the Panthers needed the game to stay alive.

Now, what's the opposite of giving some love? I won't mention the player's name, but one of the Storm was called for traveling in the first half, out by three-point line. A few seconds after the call, out of frustration (I guess), he drove to the hoop and dunked the ball with one hand, like it was an NBA Slam Dunk Competition. He got the T, of course, but I thought he should have been gone. Not sure what it takes to get tossed from a game.

One other comment: I think LEC's head coach might just give Andy Moore a run for his money. He was off the bench all night. Dude, lose the man purse!

Honestly, I can't begrudge the Storm their fun. They've been a bottom tier AMCC team for awhile, and this is their time. Their play by play announcer was certainly enjoying himself. Mr. Microphone.

So, where the hell is everyone? It's just getting good, and this board has gone to sleep. Maybe I woke everyone up... I hope so.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: jzflak15 on February 18, 2006, 04:34:24 PM
The Playoffs are shaping up..heres how its goona be....
1. lake erie- bye
2. greesburg -bye

3 behrend bs 6 frostburg
4 hilbert vs 5 la roche

behrend will defend and win the first rd game easily
hilbert and la roche will be a good game....the game is at hilbert that is in their favor....if la roche can start hot they have a chance...they have been playing inconsistent all season...no 1 wants to step up on that team..vandersluis has been one of the best players in the conference this second half of the season...

Also here is my all conference team selections

Co-Players of the year: Duke Cooper/Reggie Richardson UPG-LEC
Coach of the year: marcus Kuhn- UPG (they lost Conlon and Moye and still finished 2nd)
Newcomer- james mcneil Medaille...may be the best scorer in the region

1st team
Duke Cooper - Total team player.. 17 ppg..6 rpg 5 apg..enough said
Reggie Richardson- Iverson like.......team leader..can score pass defend
Roman Mims- 23 ppg....turned around a bad aloysius team
Tyler Franklin- 19 ppg...best players in conference
Kevin Buscynski- behrend go to guy 18.5 ppg...overall 19-6

2nd team
Ryan Race-20 ppg...tough kid..lost alot of close games this season
Dan Ryley- frostburgs leader 14 ppg 10 rpg...does it every year
Dallas reinard- go to guy....good shooter....tough all around 17 ppg
james Mcneil- 25 ppg on a bad team....tough player
JJ ferguson-missed game with an injury..best shooter in conference lights out 14ppg...

Honorable mention
Corey Vander Sluis- really came on in 2nd half 16.5 ppg
Dan Thomas- 15ppg...tough kid quick athletic...will be a good team next season
Nate Davis- 11ppg...5 rpg...60% from the field....la roches most consistent player
Robert Williams- 12.5 ppg....streaky but athletic and team won the regular season conference championship
Bill Scavincky- scrappy player 15.0 ppg...good second option besdies cooper...good down low

Just missed out
Justin Ohler- great career 15.0 ppg this season..injuries hurt him a little bit...overshadowed by mims
Frank Davis- 10ppg..5 rpg...best defensive player in amcc....
Rob Copley- great soph season...with him race and thomas...they could be the favorites next season
Stacy Grady- 13.0 ppg....good shooter...bad defender...inconsistent...overall decent player...will be back next season
Sam Hanik- good option for the mounties.....will be back with mims next seaosn...team will be better..
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on February 18, 2006, 05:04:30 PM
So Pitt Brad loses the tiebreaker even if frostburg loses and they win today? 

And I know its just your opinion but why put Franklin on the first team instead of Mcneil (they both play on bad bad teams) but i would take Mcneil because of his dynamic scoring ability (avg over forty the last 3 games) and he did avg 26.5 in conference and shot a respectable 44%

I know you r all getting a kick out of this because I call him a gun, McChucker, a hog, a terrible teammate, etc.  throughout the year but if their coach can get some help there they have a chance of doin something in the next couple years. 

PS- I still think hes a gun but a pretty damn good one
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hut1 on February 18, 2006, 09:43:58 PM
Pitt-Bradford knocks off LaRoche and Pitt-Greensburg knocks off Frostburg but according to Frostburg website they will travel to Behrend on Tuesday

http://sports.frostburg.edu/news/releasedetail.cfm?id_number=4095
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 19, 2006, 12:00:53 AM
http://amcconf.org/tiebreakercriteria.htm

As it turns out, if Pitt-Bradford had beaten Lake Erie, the Panthers would have finished fourth and hosted a first-round game. Instead, they lost a big lead late and ended up eighth!

Wow, Behrend put a hurting on Lake Erie a night after Lake Erie played poorly at Bradford. LEC hosts the conference tournament, but that has meant almost nothing over the years. This thing is wide open. Good luck to the playoff teams.

We've had a little pick em contest over the past several years on this board. So here I go with the first round games:

Behrend over Frostburg -- I always say that Frostburg in dangerous come the postseason. Behrend has been playing better since their funk, and the win over Lake Erie tonight convinces me they will take care of the pesky Bobcats.

Hilbert over La Roche -- Hilbert stumbled in their two road games this weekend, but they should have enough to hold off La Roche, who looked pretty lifeless in their game at Bradford today.

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hut1 on February 20, 2006, 11:05:11 PM
I really like Behrend also would not be suprised if they can get into the finals

My son was at the LE/UPB game and he said he was in awe of the shooting down the stretch from the Storm
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on February 20, 2006, 11:50:26 PM
This board is a joke.....all year long i listened to all the bradford fans and hilbert hawk backers run their mouths about their supposed knowledge of the conference or about the game of basketball overall. Now that its playoff time and 1. UPB is bye-bye and 2. Hilbert players are not available for comments.........the board isn't saying a damn thing, sad sad sad
Here is my words without wisdom:
1st team
Cooper
Buscynski
Richardson
Vander Sluis-reinard wasnt the "man" if ya saw more than two games
McNeil-team blows but hey the kid is a scoring machine
Other awards
POY
Cooper or Richardson (either or is fine by me)
LVPOY(Least valuable player of the year)
Stewart-Smith Ethan (14ppg last year to a whopping 7.7) way to progress throughout your career
COYLake Erie first year man
WCOY(worst coach of the year)
Dick from Medaille two-year 4-46 medaille record speaks for itself, plus someone said earlier"at least they are out of the basement" WRONG

I am rooting for the Hawks in the playoffs but who really cares.....
it will probaly be LE and PSB in the finals and then the winner will lose in the first round of the NCAA's
PS SEAN KENNEY zip it up, no body gives a rat's a_s_s about your words of wisdom. The current hilbert players don't and we sure don't either.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: jzflak15 on February 21, 2006, 02:40:40 AM
Vander sluis is a good player...not 1st team worthy tho......2nd team now for sure......to tell u the truth tho......the only teams that are consistent and actually decent are lec...behrend and upg...the rest are very "average".......I can name a handful of players who should be first team over vander sluis....mims...franklin.....ferguson if he wasn't hurt second half....I like lake erie 2 take it all beings there undefeated at home all season....reggie and duke shuld be co players of the year.....as for stewart smith.....he shuldntof even played the kid practically broke his ankle he's a tough kid and still a great player...he'd give u work clown.....kenney was a average player...culdnt hold goias jock strap.....those 8 and 10 teams in the conference all stink....inconsistent.....as for next season watch for bradford......they return thomas race copley austin will be playing....there goona be tough....they had a hard luck season.....a lot of teams are on the rise...so la roche and frostburg beter start recruitng or they will be the ones on the odd end out....next season
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 21, 2006, 11:45:45 AM
You guys going to give your picks or just talk trash?

cantbestopped... man, cheer up, it's almost spring. The sun and flowers will come out soon. That is the most depressing post I've ever read on here. Wow. Why didn't you just end with, "We're all going to die, it's doesn't really matter who wins, does it?"

Coach of the Year: Hilbert's coach deserves serious consideration. The Lake Erie dude had so much talent to work with -- he coached a preseason favorite to the league title. Not sure that is COY-worthy. But we are all forgetting something. Behrend had a good year. Who else is Coach of the Year but Dave Niland! All hail Niland! Niland Power! Sieg Niland! Sieg Niland! :)

jzflak15, I like your comments about Bradford. Sometimes teams that lose a lot of close games one year come back with a vengeance the next. Just depends how this season sits in their belly. It shouldn't be sitting well. A lot of guys are coming back, but depth and size will again be a concern, unless they have some serious contributors from the freshman ranks. All in all, there's reason for optimism.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on February 21, 2006, 01:51:52 PM
Well seeing that I havent really seen that many games up close I am not going to make any picks..
And cantbestopped...gee fellow...relax its just a game!

As for recruits to UPB...My son spent some time with them a few weekends ago...still no height

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: baller3 on February 21, 2006, 04:45:51 PM
cantbestopped, relaaaaaaaaaaaax, i dont care what you think at all and my old teammates do appreciate my words, i write in support of them and because i dont get to see any of the other teams in action i only write minimal things about other teams to which i know for sure, as for the person who wrote that i am an average player, i agree, i was an average player at the 4 spot, as for holdin sammy's jock, i dont think he would agree with you. also, anyteam can be beat on any given night in this conference so dont be so sure that its going to be greensburgh and lake erie......as for the hawks, i know they will play their hearts out tonite and come home with a victory and if they play some team ball and limit their mistakes i dont see why they couldnt make it to saturday's game so as always, go reyes, ufland, reinard!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on February 21, 2006, 06:37:29 PM
Very well said

I like a guy that supports his team through anything...
I too havent seen much this year and only have gotten the chance to see UPB play..a very disappointing season to say the least..
I just hope that they come back next year and do great things.
Its a great program, at least I think so, and the young players there seem to have talent..they just need to believe in themselfs..

The only thing I will say about the  playoffs is that I hope that they are well played and competitive, and no one gets hurt..
And I would love to see a Lake Erie/Hilbert match up

thats it
I'm out
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: eaglefan on February 21, 2006, 10:25:54 PM
Any word on how Frostburg fared?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on February 21, 2006, 10:31:44 PM
Frostburg Beat PSB Tonighti think 58-54
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: eaglefan on February 21, 2006, 10:39:19 PM
Sweet!  Thanks.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 21, 2006, 11:04:43 PM
I had the feeling Frostburg was going to win (see my previous post), but I didn't have the guts to pick them!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on February 21, 2006, 11:08:59 PM
WOW

PSB is out..Hard to believe..even if I havent been watching, hard to imagine them not in the finals..

but nice job Frostburg
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on February 21, 2006, 11:22:10 PM
Well, an interesting night in the AMCC tonight.

In the shocker of all shockers, Frostburg State beats Penn State Behrend, 59-54.  I really did not see this one coming, but just goes to show that anyone can be beat in this conference on any single day.  I think losing Ferguson hurt Behrend a lot more than initially thought.  

Hilbert beat LaRoche, 77-63.  Good game for the Hawks, and congrats to everyone in Hamburg.  From where that team was two-three years ago to where they are now is truly a testament to hard work and determination.  Anytime a cellar-dwellar can go from 1 to 5 to 10 to 12 wins and still have a lot of room for improvement with every single player coming back next season, it's great to see no matter who you root for.

So now the semifinals begin with a pair of interesting matchups...

Frostburg has played Greensburg very tough the two times they have faced each other, falling by one on the road before dropping the final game of the regular season in overtime.  

Hilbert has also played Lake Erie relatively well, falling at home after being up by double digits and losing in Cleveland by nine.  Ask the Storm who they would not have wanted to face from the last nine teams in the conference and I think you would hear Hilbert's name more than once from both the players and the coaching staff.

Should be an interesting and exciting weekend.  Anyone know about internet broadcast availability?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 22, 2006, 09:20:51 AM
Play by play of some of Lake Erie's games this season were available on the Internet at welw.com. However, according to the site, the station is airing other games this Friday and Saturday. I would check the site again later this week, though. Maybe they just haven't updated the schedule.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Yep on February 22, 2006, 11:31:28 AM
Wow, who could have imagined the AMCC final four without Bradford and Behrend, a little changing of the guard I think in this conference... Definitely a lot more balance than in the past, but I'm sure those two will be right back in the running next season!

Predictions...... Hilbert will play a hard game against LEC, but I dont see them beating the storm on the road... although they are a very good and improved team, I would say its too much of a challenge... but look out next season, Hilbert could be one of the favorites...they are a very good team on the rise!

UPG will again defeat FSU in a close game... talent wise, UPG has just a little bit more, and I think Cooper will really step up in playoff time!

Finals - I want to go with UPG, mostly because of the way they manhandled LEC in their last meeting, but something tells me that winning at LEC where the storm is unbeaten will be a tough task... also, UPG has a less than stellar mark on the road (they were also unbeaten at home, all 9 losses on the road) ! So final prediction is LEC 85  UPG 80, very close game!


COY - definitely goes to Hilbert's coach...turned a non playoff team into a semi-finalist!

POY - Cooper , anyone who thinks there is a player anywhere near his caliber in this conference, has obviously not seen him play! He is head and shoulders above all other players... and this team lost last year's player of the year, Conlon, along with 3 other starters... and Cooper still leads them to the semi's and a 2nd place regular season finish!

Richardson, Bucynski, Race, Franklin, fill out the rest of the first team!

What a disappointing season for preseason player of the year, Harris, did he even average double digits???
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: eaglefan on February 24, 2006, 09:36:59 PM
Any word on what's happening tonight?  Half time score for FSU?  Final?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 24, 2006, 09:41:37 PM
Check this website's front page for an update on Hilbert vs. LEC.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: eaglefan on February 24, 2006, 10:09:18 PM
I want to know what's up with Frostburg SU?  Did they overcome the trifecta?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: baller3 on February 25, 2006, 08:12:13 AM
Hilbert loses in OT to in VERY winnablw game, great season none the less guys..
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on February 25, 2006, 05:02:51 PM
Wow.  What a great way to finish the conference season.  Lake Erie pulled out a couple of thrillers and they are to be commended. 

Tough loss for the Hawks last night but they have nothing to be ashamed of.  With Reinard, Reyes, Ufland and Vandersluis all coming back next season, look for Hilbert to be preseason top 3 if not favorites. 

Very exciting conference tournament and Lake Erie will hopefully make the conference proud in the tourney.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 25, 2006, 06:03:25 PM
Well said Hawk Backer. It was just Lake Erie's year. Go get 'em Storm in the NCAAs.

And well done Hilbert. I've taken a liking to the Hawks. Let's hope Hilbert and Pitt-Bradford get a good "219 Rivalry" going.

The AMCC is on the rise! Don't mess with them mountain boys. :) (OK, for the purpose of that slogan, we'll pretend that the Allegheny Mountains extend west to Cleveland.)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 25, 2006, 11:35:30 PM
Here's how I see the final regional rankings, assuming I have recalculated the QoWI correctly:

1. Wittenberg (20-3, QoWI 10.652)
2. Hope (17-2, 10.211)
3. Baldwin-Wallace (22-4, 10.077)
4. Wooster (21-3, 10.042)
5. Carnegie Mellon (15-4, 10.474)
6. Calvin (13-2, 9.750)
---------------------------
7. Lake Erie (18-4, 9.682)
8. Bethany (20-4, 9.417)
9. Ohio Northern (17-6, 9.130)
10. Albion (12-4, 9.125)


Pool C candidates shown in boldface; Pool B candidate shown in italics.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 27, 2006, 03:29:03 PM
David, on the NCAC forum you wrote that Wittenberg's JV could probably beat Lake Erie. Are you just assuming that the AMCC champion is necessarily a joke, or have seen Lake Erie in action, or are you comparing scores with common opponents... or what? Certainly anything less than a rout will leave you looking quite foolish. If anyone associated with the Storm is reading this, I hope this comment from a well-respected "guru" of Division 3 basketball goes up on the "bulletin board." Not that you should need any motivation to win an NCAA tournament game, but this BS statement could help. :) I'm always amazed by the condescending arrogance of some fans on this board. The Witts and the Woos and the Zoos and the Yippie Ki-ay Mofos think they are God's gift to college basketball, yet they forget that Division III is at or very near the bottom of the college basketball food chain. Remember, there's some average Division II program whose fans can say, "Witt? Our JV can beat them!" End of rant. I feel better.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 27, 2006, 04:12:47 PM
Far be it for me (a Wooster grad) to provide bulletin board material for Wittenberg's next opponent!  :D

My hyperbole was mostly intended to contrast Randolph-Macon to Lake Erie as a first-round opponent, but no, I don't think Lake Erie has more than a small chance to beat Wittenberg.  That's what the history of the tournament tells me.  It may not be a "rout," because Witt's slow tempo and stifiling defensive style don't often lead to big margins, but I don't expect that the game will ever be in doubt.  I hope I am wrong, which will certainly make me look quite foolish--a feeling I am quite familiar with!  :)

(In my own defense, I should point out that I have been pointing out for several weeks, here but mostly elsewhere, how Lake Erie was a stronger Pool C candidate than either Albion or Ohio Northern, and I'd like their chances against an opponent of that stature.  But not against a national top 5 team like Wittenberg.)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 27, 2006, 05:59:20 PM
Is history always instructive? Whose history? Wittenberg's or Lake Erie's? Hey, no need to haul out the cliché about the games not being played on paper. And the great tradition of college basketball cinderellas in the postseason. I have no problem with the way you've characterized this game in your latest post. Of course it will be an upset if Lake Erie wins, and they know it, I'm sure. I just thought the JV remark was mean-spirited. But you never answered the question: where did you learn so much about Lake Erie?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 27, 2006, 06:06:08 PM
P.S. I see you're trying to wiggle out of your statement by calling it "hyperbole" and suggesting Witt's style doesn't allow for a rout. But I think it's fair to say that if you thought Witt's JV could beat Lake Erie, then you were indeed predicting a rout. So if it's Witt by 8 or something, you are not off the hook. OK, the six other AMCC posters can step in and back me up anytime now. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 27, 2006, 09:00:29 PM
Okay, you caught me.  Witt's JV team probably could not beat Lake Erie.  I should be more precise with my language when I am exaggerating to make a point.  (::))  It certainly wan't intended to be mean-spirited, and I'm sorry you took it that way.  It was meant to be (dare I say it--dare! dare! ;)) hyperbolic.

I think Witt should have an easy time on Friday.  However, for a different view of that game, see the NCAC board and a recent post by Wooster Booster.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 27, 2006, 10:03:57 PM
I think you should stay out of the hyperbolic chamber and away from ridiculous computer simulations of basketball games. I love the Wooster Booster's line -- "I see the result as just a fluke, something that's probably more of a possibility when just dealing with numbers than when the actual players get on the court." Isn't that the definition of a simulation? It's kind of scary, actually. Are we going to reach a point where the real games are played as simulations of what the computers will eventually decide? A grim look into the future. Brrrrrrr.

Seriously, I think Lake Erie will represent the AMCC well. Instead of waltzing to the tournament, they stumbled a bit toward the end, but still won two overtime games in the conference tournament. So they are both confident, yet humbled a bit perhaps. This might be the best team the AMCC has sent to the tournament. Going on the road, being the underdog, being the unknown, being taken lightly might all work to their advantage. We shall see. All that matters is what happens on the court. Wooster Booster would certainly love that bit of obviousness.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: fighting_scots on February 27, 2006, 10:07:34 PM
DC--you're constantly learning about the language of the law--PRECISE!  Nice "wiggling", by the way--you're learning, at the expense of the Lake Erie fans ;D

I don't think Witt will have as easy of a game as what most people are saying--Witt tends to play to the level of their opponent, and Sat. night was the very first time this year Witt played defense with a passion. 

Witt seems to get fired up when they see black and old gold--unless they see Lake Erie with uni's that have WOOSTER painted across their chest, I think it will be closer than what many think--closer, but I still think that Witt should handle them, IMO--For crying out loud, they have Borchers and Russ, 6'9's and athletic! 

Who knows?  It's tourney time, and anything can happen!!!

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on February 27, 2006, 11:09:01 PM
In defense of upb88 in his recent spat with the almighty David Collinge , I have to say that I believe Lake Erie has at least a punchers chance against Wittenberg for one simple reason, guards usually dictate tournament play,
                      Combined
Richardson/Williams              Steffes/Denbow
190 assists                            94 assists
25.8 pts/per                           7.0 pts/per

and while nobody can argue the size that Wittenberg has upfront, you can't ignore the athleticism and depth that Lake Erie presents as well.  And if your telling me that lake Erie doesn't have a chance why is it that Wittenberg recently lost to Wabash a team that usually starts no one over 6'5"(they did start Coffey against Witt but he played a limited role with Zimmer off the bench playing a bit more productive). Size is nice but it doesn't mean that your dominance is guaranteed, plus Wittenberg turns the ball over just as much as their opponents do, which is very unusual occurrence for a team that only lost three games all year and playing a slow down offense. I don't know what will happen because I haven't seen Wittenberg play anymore this year than David Collinge has seen Lake Erie play, I think it will be a pretty good game and this is the tourney, weirder things have happened in history David, haven't they?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 27, 2006, 11:18:06 PM
Hey, I'm ALMIGHTY now!  8) Watch out, world!  No more wars, no more hunger, no more disease--things of the past!  And people who have opinions will be freely allowed to express them!  Life is gonna be good from now on!  :D

I don't have anything to add to this increasingly silly conversation.  I'm glad you folks are fans enough of the Storm (or at least the conference) to find offense in my little jest and subsequent prediction.  Maybe you should go down to Springfield on Friday and cheer on the Storm.  If I could be there, that's what I'd be doing.  I wouldn't have much hope, but I'd cheer them on nonetheless.

Good luck to Lake Erie on Friday.  Signing out... :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on February 27, 2006, 11:44:26 PM
Great post, cantbestopped! David... "little jest"? Saying someone's JV can beat another conference's top team? Honestly, I don't think you have the courage of conviction behind your comment. Maybe that's why you're "signing out." But at least we AMCC peasants can say, for one day at least, we were visited by the high and mighty.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on February 28, 2006, 12:48:56 AM
I for one hope that Lake Erie goes in there and plays like it seems they can
I for one am glad to see the AMCC being represented in the NCAA tourney as well as the ECAC...good luck Pitt-Greensburg and PSB...
its really nice to see the conference getting the press...

I love tourney time
anything can happen...

As for Witt just running all over LE...if their guards can control the pace and
their defense just plays tight...even with 6'9...heck who knows

congrats to all the AMCC teams in the playoffs and
good luck
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on February 28, 2006, 02:32:51 AM
Honestly, big guys are only as good as their guard play.

I have never seen Wittenburg's guards, nor have I seen their big people...

But I do know that Lake Erie has one of the best trios in the AMCC and the Northeast that I have seen in some time (Richardson, Williams, Harris)... If they didn't lose Washington to a broken ankle, they would have not lost 6 game and would have, I believe, received a better seed.

But so goes life.  Richardson is a very, very good D3 player, as good as anyone Wittenburg has on its team.  Harris played on a team with a D1 superstar in David Lighty, and was a featured player on the HS team.  He has a lot of talent and can produce.  Chad Hunt was a D2 player before he transferred to Lake Erie for his final season.  These guys can play.  Can they match a top-5 D3 team?  I really have no idea.  Should they have been seeded in this position?  That's up for debate.  But what is clear is that Lake Erie had a chance to top St. John Fisher, beat Bethany (a tournament team), beat Edinboro, a D2 team, and also had a chance to defeat a D3 tourney team, Lincoln, in which they were up 14 at halftime.

Anything can happen... And be very, very wary of the AMCC.... 
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: BOKNOWSBBALL on February 28, 2006, 11:55:16 AM
Lake Erie is a very talented team but no where near what Wittenburg has to offer.  Lake Erie's talent may keep them in the game but they will not be able to play a team, in every sense of the word ,team that Wittenburg has.  Lake Erie I dont belevie plays the total team game.  They have excellent talent and you can talk about their players and how good and where they came from but you see it everyday its not always the most talented team that wins but the BEST TEAM(sum of its parts) that wins. 

One thing that is for sure that is Lake Erie will not be scared of Wittenburg and I bet that Lake Erie will actually come into the game more cocky and confident like they did all season.  But like they came into the PS-Behrend game and played dirty, cocky and confident but ended up on the bottom end of a lopsided game.  It will be the same thing with Wittenburg. 
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 28, 2006, 12:06:06 PM
I highly doubt that WittenbErg is taking LEC lightly.  If anyone knows how important guard play is, it's Wittenberg.  Wooster has arguably one of the deepest backcourts in the country, and don't even come close to matching up down low with Witt's bigs down low.  But, they were somehow able to pull out 2 of 3 from Wittenberg this season.  That being said, Witt's last game vs. Wooster was also by far their best defensive effort, especially on the perimeter.  Of course, it seems as if every time Witt hooks up with Wooster, they bring their A+++ game.  If Witt can somehow bring that same intensity (maybe hypnotize their players into believing LEC's unis are Black & Old Gold), I doubt we will be seeing an upset.  But, Witt does have a tendency to play down to the level of their opponent.  If they let LEC stick around long enough, you never know what might happen?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on February 28, 2006, 12:54:43 PM
Don't count Lake Erie out. Reggie Richardon has played on every level of college basketball. Whenever he needs to take over a game, he does. The man can handle the ball like no other. Defense wins championships and Lake Erie is a defensive minded team. Lake Erie also also has one of the deepest benches in the ECAC and definitely the AMCC. Lake Erie canwin in any situation: Come from behind victories, grinding it out, or just beating up on their opponents; Lake Erie does it all.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on February 28, 2006, 01:35:05 PM
BOKNOWSBALL- you can not use the Behrend game as a measuring stick for Lake Erie's season, the game meant absolutely nothing to Lake Erie (they already locked up the number one seed in the conference tourney)
Scotsfan- Are you really telling us that Wittenberg plays down to the level of their competition at any situation,  this is the NCAA tourney if they can't bring out their A+++++++ game in the tournament, why play at all?  Plus LE is no slouch (and I'm not a LE fan) AMCC fan yes, but LE has played a pretty tough out of conference schedule and not done that bad.
thebigjoker- come on fam, did we really needed the head of the Richardson fan club to make a post before the game?  We are all saying he's a great player, and by the way HS, Junior College, and D3 are not every level of basketball.  NAIA, D2, D1 would have something to say about it.  But I am rooting for the storm, to bring some respect to the AMCC and i think win or lose they are going to do just that.  But dont forget while they can do "Come from behind victories, grinding it out, or just beating up on their opponents; Lake Erie does it all. "  they also lose by a ton, blow huge leads, and lose their composure as well, so yeah i guess they do "DO IT ALL"
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on February 28, 2006, 03:59:46 PM
First of all, I have to say that I am NOT "head of the Richardson fan club". I know Reggie, and I respect his game. He is a solid player and HAS played on other levels of college basketball. Richardson played briefly for a D1 school and could've started for any D2 or NAIA team that he wanted to. Personally, I am a fan of Jajcen Harris and Rob Williams because of their leadership. Williams is a vocal and demonstrative leader on the floor and has fantastic decision making skills. Harris is an unstoppable force beneath the hoop and only takes high percentage shots.

As for Lake Erie losing by tons, where did you get that from? Before the Behrend game, Lake Erie's largest loss was by 13 and its been said that the Behrend game can't be used as a measuring stick because it meant nothing. Lake Erie lost big to a D2 school, they weren't expected to win. The other large loss came from Greensburg, the team that Lake Erie just defeated for the conference championship. Lake Erie played well against two top 20 ranked opponents losing both games by a total of only 7 points.

Yes, Lake Erie has been known to blow huge leads, but their bench is fairly unexperienced in this level of basketball. There are several freshman and other players that do not see much action. Lake Erie has also spent a large portion of the season without Howard Washington, team sharpshooter and ace defender, because of injury.

The Storm have never lost their composure. They play in the AMCC and everyone in the conference knows that we have some of the worst referees ever. AMCC refs have know to make terrible calls and often have to correct each other on the floor. During Lake Erie's one point loss at LaRoche players and fans stormed the floor after a desperation 3 pointer was made. There was still time on the clock and no timeout was called. Thats a technical foul. Lake Erie should have been given two free throws and possesion of the ball. The refs blew that call though just as they blow many others at Lake Erie games.

There is no doubt that Lake Erie is going to give Wittenburg a run for their money. With with Wittenburg's slow paced offense and Lake Erie's tenacious defense, its going to be a good game.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: baller3 on February 28, 2006, 05:49:02 PM
i may take some crap from cantbestopped but maybe not, anyhow, as for the post that stated "Harris is an unstoppable force beneath the hoop" i must contend the statement.  The  "preseason" amcc player of the year didnt quite live up to that comment.  i may have only seen him play once this year, at hilbert, but he barely played and didnt contribute and judging by his stats he hardly merits the title of being an unstoppable force, he dropped 6 points from his average and a rebound and a half from last year, possibly letting all the hype go to his head, but hey, i have been wrong before, maybe he will get play like the harris of old and drop 20 and 10........
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 28, 2006, 06:02:57 PM
Quote from: thebiggjoker on February 28, 2006, 12:54:43 PM

Defense wins championships and Lake Erie is a defensive minded team.


Umm, Wittenberg only leads the nation in scoring defense. ::)  They're also 5th in field-goal percentage defense.  So, I'd say Witt is a defensive minded team as well.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on February 28, 2006, 06:26:27 PM
I never said that Witenberg wasn't a good defensive team. It will be nice to see their defense take on Lake Erie's high tempo high powered offense.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 28, 2006, 06:32:16 PM
Somebody, please shake me out of it!!!  Maybe I'm coming down with something?!  I can't believe I'm making posts in support of Witt??? ???  I don't usually do that sort of thing. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on February 28, 2006, 06:37:55 PM
I admit that the stats for Harris have dropped this season. One of the major reasons though is the fact that he was sick at the beginning of the season. Also there are many haters in the AMCC. I haven't seen too mant plaers get fould as hard as he does. Also, because of the septh of Lake Erie's bench, Harris isn't depended on as much and doesnt get the kind of quality minutes that he used to. Harris also rebounds a lot more than he gets credit for. The person that keeps stats for his team doesn't do that great of a job at it.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on February 28, 2006, 06:41:40 PM
I would like to post edits to my last post as I wasn't looking as I was typing. The firsy is the word many in place of mant players in place of plaers and fouled in place of fould all in the second line. In the third line depth in place of septh.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on February 28, 2006, 08:43:44 PM
Unstoppable force ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D, and thats all i can say about that. Might be a leader but i dont know because i dont play for them.  What sickness makes you suck for a whole season, cause i dont ever want to catch that.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: pennstghs on February 28, 2006, 09:21:54 PM
scots fan i support you and have taken a similar approach by supporting wooster in saying there is no logical way you guys should have any problem advancing past this weekend. transylvania is a good team but not quite on the wooster level

fyi storm fans its wittenb    E    rg not wittenburg

we could play the common opponents game and say how in the world did you guys lose to capital?????? we beat them by 20
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on February 28, 2006, 09:57:48 PM
One guy spelled wittenberg wrong, and if ya read his posts he spelled other much easier words wrong as well.  Common oppenets don't mean s_h_i_t.  That was the second game of the year. And this is division 3 While teams like Cal tech or even medaille might not be on certain teams levels, give our conference champs a little bit of respect, their tough out-of-conference schedule deserves at least that.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on February 28, 2006, 10:11:43 PM
The Storm lost to Capital at the beginning of the season. It was only their second game.  You win some and you lose some. Foul trouble was the name of that game. Wittenberg beat Capital 3 days after Lake Erie played them and gave them a good run for their money.

Harris didn't suck for an entire season. He was illduring the first part of the season and that was all. He stepped it up when necessary but as a leader, he let other people take shots. He plays TEAM basketball. An individual can't win a championship. When Harris is on the floor he makes his teammates better HANDS DOWN. Also because he was such a force, he drew several double teams and decided to pass out of the double to an open teammate.

I dare anyone in D3 ball to challenge Harris in a game of straight up, back to the basket, no help defense hoops and then tell me why hes not unstoppable.

Honestly, this game is going to come down to the play of the guards. Its going to be a great game and I look forward to seeing it. The people in the post are going to dominate both ways and we all know this.

What about the Bethany game? No one from the AMCC but Lake Erie beat them. They gave it to them winning by 15 points. Bethany only had 4 losses and one of them was at the hands of Lake Erie.

I apologize for the mispelling of Wittenberg. I was using the German spelling of the word without checking against the school's actual name.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 01, 2006, 03:02:10 AM
Quote from: thebiggjoker on February 28, 2006, 10:11:43 PMI apologize for the mispelling of Wittenberg. I was using the German spelling of the word without checking against the school's actual name.

The Germans spell it "Wittenberg", too, same as the university in Springfield, OH.

Here's the official website of the city of Wittenberg in the German state of Saxony-Anhalt, world-famous as the town where a monk named Martin Luther nailed the 95 Theses to the door of the cathedral on October 31, 1517 and thus launched the Protestant Reformation:

http://www.wittenberg.de/staticsite/staticsite.php?menuid=84&topmenu=84

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: BOKNOWSBBALL on March 01, 2006, 10:01:51 AM
How can you say a game doesnt mean anything.  At Behrend, they were playing for seeding, if and when they won the AMCC.  If they didnt win the AMCC, they are playing for a chance to make it.  Every game means something and yes a great team brings it everynight.  Lake Erie is a good team but not a great one. 

As for Richardson being able to start for any D2 or NAIA school.  If he could do that then why the hell is he at  Lake Erie, who up to this year never had a team.  Ridiculous comment.  He may be able to play D2 or NAIA but to start on every team is just flat out ridiculous. 




Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 01, 2006, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: pennstghs on February 28, 2006, 09:21:54 PM

scots fan i support you and have taken a similar approach by supporting wooster in saying there is no logical way you guys should have any problem advancing past this weekend. transylvania is a good team but not quite on the wooster level


penn, thanks for the vote of confidence.  You have been one of the better reps in here for Wittenberg regardless of the fact that you represent my least favorite program in DIII (Wittenberg) and one of my least favorite programs in DI (State Penn). ;)  For the record, I am pulling for your Tigers in the tourney, as much as it pains me to say it. :)  That is, up until that possible Elite 8 showdown that would be Witt/Woo IV.   ;)

Personally, no matter what the LEC and AMCC supporters in here say, I just don't see the Storm pulling off the upset.  And bragging about beating Bethany doesn't further your cause IMO.  The PrAC is one of the weakest conferences in the country, so for the Bison to run the table in that conference doesn't exactly do much to impress me.  Wooster was 3-0 against teams from the PrAC (including wins over 2nd place W&J and 3rd place Westminster) with an average margin of victory of 33 points.  So to say their league is sub-par would be a bit of an understatement.

I will give LEC props on their non-conference schedule.  They played some pretty good teams and they were competitive in those games.  It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see them be competitive against Witt.  I just don't see them pulling off the upset, that's all.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on March 01, 2006, 12:52:04 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 01, 2006, 03:02:10 AM
The Germans spell it "Wittenberg", too, same as the university in Springfield, OH.

Here's the official website of the city of Wittenberg in the German state of Saxony-Anhalt, world-famous as the town where a monk named Martin Luther nailed the 95 Theses to the door of the cathedral on October 31, 1517 and thus launched the Protestant Reformation:

http://www.wittenberg.de/staticsite/staticsite.php?menuid=84&topmenu=84



I would like to say that I was not referring to the city of Wittenberg that was mentioned in a recent post. I used to study German culture and literature and I was mentioning a smaller city.

For all the haters out there, Richardson came to Lake Erie because of strong recruiting. He came to the school because he liked it. I stand by my statement that he could start for any D2 or NAIA team. I've never seen a guard that can defend him one on one, nor have I seen a team that can stop him from penetrating.

Lake Erie is going to do more than compete against Wittenberg, they are going to beat them. The Storm prey on offenses like Wittenberg's. The only reason that Witt leads the nation is scoring defense is the fact that while playing offense, they lull their opponents to sleep and Lake Erie will have none of that.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hoopsphanatic on March 01, 2006, 03:09:53 PM
ok i get it.. bigjoker is just that a big joke...  he is obviously a player from Lake Erie.. past or present..  and its a shame that he has to come on here and try to hype up his team and say comments that just make him look like he has a lack of knowledge of the game.   Richardson very good player YES.. capable of starting on any D2 school NO..  and your comment that he choice Lake Erie over D2 scholarships and such is outlandish..  who would choice a school just off Lake Erie in the cold that only has a enrollment of what 400 kids.. my high school was bigger then that..  

im a big fan of the amcc and the credit it is startin to get.. i mean we got the Woosters and Wittenbergs talkin on this page now which means we are now known as a member of D3 basketball world...  but Lake Erie isnt the powerhouse bigjoker is tryin to make them out to be.. They did lose to LaRoche  and get blown out by a Furgeson-less Behrend team that has been anything but the team they were earlier in the season..    

after all that i still wish Lake Erie all the best in the tournament and expect them to represent the AMCC well but to expect a W and to even predict one is alittle to much... also i wish Behrend luck tonight too.. and UPG as well as they wait for the winner of the Behrend and Wesley game..

the amcc is well represented in Post-season tournys lets see how well they do against other teams outside of the confrence and see if we can get some recognision(spelling)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on March 01, 2006, 03:32:57 PM
Lake Erie's enrollment is about 1,000.

Any information on webcasting of the game? LEC's AMCC title game was on the Internet, but I guess I don't have the right software. What about from the Wittenberg side?

Good to see this game getting lots of keystrokes! Speaking of key strokes... go Reggie!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on March 01, 2006, 03:56:17 PM
Allow me to answer my own question.

http://www4.wittenberg.edu/news/athletics/broadcast.html

Don't be frightened, I talk to myself all the time. Shut up! No, you shut up!

A big factor in this game is going to be the crowd. Witt's joint seats 3,000, and assuming a sellout, it's going to easily be four times the biggest crowd Lake Erie has played in front of this season. And certainly the rowdiest. That can put pressure on the home team as well.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on March 01, 2006, 05:19:35 PM
I love that just because I seem to bethe only person going to war for my team, I have to be a player. I won't say who I am but if anyone knows, its gotta be a shocker. Anyone thats played at Lake Erie knows me and remembers me. Check the facts before calling me an idiot that has a lack of knowledge of the game. All the only erroneous references that I have really made were me mispelling Wittenberg and saying that Lake Erie lost to a D2 school this season which they didnt. Edinboro lost to Lake Erie.

I'll give it to hoopsphanatic, Lake Erie did lose to LaRoche, but as I stated earlier, it was a controversial game. Yes, Lake Erie did get blown out by Behrend, but it was the last game of the season and the team had already locked up first place. It wasn't like they blew off that game off but it wasn't a huge game for them. I don't believe that anyone has made Lake Erie out to be a powerhouse, though they have been a dominant force in the AMCC for the past two seasons.

Richardson chose Lake Erie because of the school, not the basketball program. Just because he wasn't able to recieve an athletic scholarship doesn't mean that he wasn't able to recieve any scholarship for coming to the school. Lake Erie gives all of its students a scholarship  upon enrollment. The school also makes several other scholarships available. The coach at the time made Richardson feel wanted and that was what was important to him. Everything isn't always about basketball.

It is very true that Lake Erie has not played in fron of many crowds the size of 3,000. Even though they don't have tons of experience playing in fron of large crowds, they do have some. They have played to large crowds at Capital and Bethany. Lake Erie probably has the rowdiest fans in most of D3 basketball. The AMCC commissioner regularly recieves complaints about the Storm fans(listen for them this Friday they will be the one screaming WHERE MY DOGS AT? WOO! WHERE MY DOGS AT? WOO! WHAT TIME IS IT? GAME TIME! WHAT TIME IS IT? GAME TIME!).



Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on March 01, 2006, 05:23:41 PM
My prediction..............

the bigjoker is a current player ;D

that has never studied a bit of german culture or literature

There is by no means a town named Wittenburg at least not in Germany

Aber beweisen Sie mich falsch, weil ich 100 Prozent Deutsch bin

stickin up for your team ("going to war" is the stupiest thing i have ever heard someone say about a basketball game especially in this day when thousands of US troops have died in a real war) for your school is one thing but you are arguing with people trying to defend the storm as well, a_s_s clown
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on March 01, 2006, 05:44:45 PM
So you are German cantbestopped? I want to know how you feel about Kamillo Rosenthal's play in the AMCC. Is that how you became a fan of this league? I'm just interested that's all.

When I used the term going to war, I just meant defending the team. I would never try to take anything from the US troops or ANY troops that are out fighting the good fight right now. I have family out there for goodness' sake. I apologize, that is a slang term that I picked up in the area that I come from that just means "to defend".

If you think that I'm a player, who do you think I am. I've never said. I seriously did study some German culture and literature, whether I was educated incorrectly could be a completely different story. If you must know, I translated all by myself, no dictionary needed.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on March 01, 2006, 06:31:15 PM
If I had to guess I would say you seriously are a former player that can't deal with the fact that you can not compete any longer....therefore i would go with either Nate Malensek or Mike Rustifo....

Who gives a damn about Kamillo Rosenthal (Munich, Germany)  but.....

He did average about 8.5 pts/per game his freshman/soph season, then he took a year off (maybe because he studies aboard, that means overseas) came back and avg about 9.5 pts/per his junior year, meanwhile he avg about 4 reb a game over his career.

In his senior year of high school he played for Catholic H.S andd averaged 25 pts/per, 7 reb/per and shot 55% from the field.

As I was saying who gives a damn about Kamillo Rosenthal...

Any more tests you got for me there buddy
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hoopsphanatic on March 01, 2006, 06:49:42 PM
im gonna have to go with cantbestopped and say ur mike rustifo!! or maybe ur point gaurd teammate  crawford..
and i saw you cheering on your team last weekend.. its good to see that...

and Lake Erie isnt one of the best fans in D3... come on if this is a past player.. then you've been to bradfords old gym and played in that S_H_I_T whole when it was packed and could hear your teammate yell out a pick 5 feet away...    but i will give Lake Erie all the credit in the world for getting and amazing new facility from the airplane hanger you had before.. and for bring in recruits such as Harris(who underachivied this year) richardson and the much forgotten but always important Williams who i believe is mister clutch for this time... BIG TIME player in the confrence tourny!!!

but im not hating on LEC at all.. they are becoming a new force in the AMCC... i wouldnt be suprised if the new dominate teams in the league are Lake Erie and UPG... UPG doesnt get much credit but you cant deny them after being top 2 regulars season last 2 years and losing by 1 in the championship the last 2 years.. my heart goes out to that team and Cooper and Winfrey the only seniors...   both of those 2 teams seem to be on the rise in the AMCC.. behrend and bradford seem to be on the decline... and dont forget Hilbert next year either..... and i believe hilberts coach should have been CO-coach of the year by the way..

BUT still i wish Lake Erie all the luck in the world... i wanna see an AMCC team get out of first round besides behrend
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: pennstghs on March 01, 2006, 09:34:20 PM
i hate to admit this but i dont think the witt gym will be at full capacity either night this week as witt starts spring break on friday. dont worry the fan base will still be strong and i dont think lake erie knows what they're getting themselves into. you are looking at a senior-clad and motivated team that is going to be going full force to advance in the tournament. lake erie has eyt to prove themselves
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on March 01, 2006, 10:09:47 PM
Wow! I cant believe that people think that I'm Mike Rustifo. No way. He's a great person and I'm glad to see that he and Crawford (I'm not him either) still support the team. I m not Nate Malensek either. Its nice to know that people remember him though. You guys aren't even close.

I think that Lake Erie does have incredible fans. I'm not talking about a numbers game here. I'm talking about NOISE and support. I don't want to knowck the fan base of any AMCC team but Lake Erie has top tier fans.

I would have to agree that Lake Erie and University of Pitt-Greensburg are the new forces in the AMCC. Hilbert is on their way up. I think that Medaille is going to be a sleeper team.

I was very surprised that Hunt got COY. I was expecting Rob deGranpre from Hilbert. He took a 10-15 (8-10) program and took them to the semifinals of the conference tournament the following season.

I had my money on Cooper for POY. I almost fell to the floor when they gave it to Buczynski. No disrespect but he just didn't seem to deserve it like Cooper did. Most people wanted Richardson also. Rumor has it that the AMCC will not give POY to a transfer and both of them were.

Lake Erie has yet to prove themselves??? They beat Edinboro. They beat Bethany. They have also played well in non conference losses.

To cantbestopped: I wasn't attempting to call you out on the fact that you were German. I believe you totally. I was just asking you how you felt about Kamillo, thats all. I just remember him lighting Lake Erie up on more than one occasion. Whatever happened to him anyhow?

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 02, 2006, 01:40:00 AM
Quote from: cantbestopped on March 01, 2006, 05:23:41 PM
My prediction..............

the bigjoker is a current player ;D

that has never studied a bit of german culture or literature

There is by no means a town named Wittenburg at least not in Germany

I don't know anything about biggjoker's identity, or whether or not he's studied German culture, but the odd thing is that there actually is a town in Germany called Wittenburg. A town, mind you, not a city. Only 5,000 people live there; it's in the northern German state of Mecklenburg-West Pomerania, about fifty miles east of Hamburg. I discovered it by Googling the name "Wittenburg".

Frankly, I think that biggjoker stumbled into an alibi. I know quite a bit about Germany, and I've spent time there. I've never heard of Wittenburg until tonight, and I'm willing to bet that there are hardly any Germans who live outside of a dozen-mile radius of the town who have ever heard of it, either.

On the other hand, every moderately-educated person knows about the city of Wittenberg, because it plays a pivotal role in European history (and, thus, world history) due to its connection to Martin Luther and the Protestant Reformation. More to the point, every Lutheran on the planet knows about the city of Wittenberg -- and Wittenberg University is a Lutheran institution (specifically, it's affiliated with the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America), one that was quite obviously named after the city where the denomination began.

Bottom line, nobody would intentionally spell the school's name "Wittenburg" because "that's the German spelling of the word." The school in Ohio is clearly and obviously named after the world-famous birthplace of Lutheranism, not after some one-stoplight hamlet in northern Germany whose existence isn't even a rumor -- including among the vast majority of Germans themselves.

(Incidentally, this wouldn't be a problem if the word was said aloud, because Germans, unlike Anglophones, pronounce "burg" and "berg" differently.)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 02, 2006, 01:49:28 AM
Quote from: thebiggjoker on March 01, 2006, 05:19:35 PMIt is very true that Lake Erie has not played in fron of many crowds the size of 3,000. Even though they don't have tons of experience playing in fron of large crowds, they do have some. They have played to large crowds at Capital and Bethany.

The crowd for Lake Erie @ Capital was listed at over 1,200, and that does qualify as a large crowd by D3 standards. But attendance for Lake Erie @ Bethany was only listed at 205.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on March 02, 2006, 10:32:19 AM
Let me say this on behalf of the thebiggjoker... well, excuuuuuuuuse me. Good Lord, are we going to send the guy to Guantanamo Bay? Hope I spelled that right! (P.S. thejoker did say he was referring to a smaller city in Germany.)

That's fascinating information, Greg, now let's talk about how many folks from Ohio and Michigan have butchered "Behrend" over the past several years. Hopefan always need to buy a vowel. Speaking of Behrend, they won their first-round ECAC game and will face Pitt-Greensburg.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: pennstghs on March 02, 2006, 03:48:48 PM
what are lake erie's plans to stop our posts tomorrow night? doubling down? this may be a crucial factor cuz most NCAC teams will not double down on our posts because witt shoots a high 3 point %
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on March 02, 2006, 03:51:39 PM
Lake Erie doesn't need to double. Harris, Hunt, Campbell, and Stewart are excellent one on one defenders down low. With the way that Wittenberg runs their offense, they will be lucky to even get the ball down low for scoring oppurtunities.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: bighollar on March 02, 2006, 04:28:29 PM
Hey biggjoker if the Lake Erie big men ar so great then why did vandersluis rip them for 25 and 9 in the semi's. They were softtt.....
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 02, 2006, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: upb88 on March 02, 2006, 10:32:19 AM
Let me say this on behalf of the thebiggjoker... well, excuuuuuuuuse me. Good Lord, are we going to send the guy to Guantanamo Bay? Hope I spelled that right! (P.S. thejoker did say he was referring to a smaller city in Germany.)

Hey, I was just amazed that he alibi'ed his way into something that was actually true. Wittenburg isn't a "city," it's a wide spot in the road. There's no way in the world he could've known it existed. I just thought it was funny that he stumbled into something that at first glance appears to be a legit excuse.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on March 02, 2006, 04:59:56 PM
Yet more proof that the AMCC refs are horrible. The semi game against Hilbert was poorly officiated. Vander-Sluis was pushing off the entire game. None of the refs were calling it. It seems like the AMCC refs don't know what over the back is either because all four teams were doing it all night.

The first time he played at Lake Erie he only scored 13 and grabbed 2 rebounds and that was late in the game. Lake Erie also held him to 7 points and 10 rebounds earlier in the season.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: pennstghs on March 03, 2006, 09:51:08 AM
the ball wont get down low to the big men-are you retarded or what? there is no feasible way that we will lose this game because we didnt get the ball down low. this is a senior clad team that has faced adversity and all types of defenses and lake erie will have to play at 110% to win th is game
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on March 03, 2006, 02:16:03 PM
they will get the ball down low and they will score down low, you dont win 25 games in the regular season playing in a pretty good (Wittenberg, Wooster, and Ohio Weslleyan are better than good) league while their big men shot 56 and 65% from the field respectively.  In my opinion the Tigers are gonna beat em up down low, but if Lake Eries guards bring their A++ games they do have a chance to make it interesting, if richardson and williams dont bring it they will get blown out.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: thebiggjoker on March 03, 2006, 04:09:33 PM
I wasn't saying that they're not going to get the ball down low at all, I'm just saying that the Lake Erie defense is going to make it a lot more difficult. Williams and Richardson always bring theyre A++ game.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: BOKNOWSBBALL on March 03, 2006, 09:53:41 PM
With all Lake Eries D2 players they lost to Wittenberg 76-40.  It must have been the refs fault or maybe they thought they didnt have to play this game because they already won the AMCC.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on March 04, 2006, 01:42:48 AM
I hate to kick a team when they are down but...11 points at the half WOW. I too thought Lake Erie would come out and at least give a respectable showing but...nope.  And Joker was right Wittenberg didn't dominate down low (well maybe they did rebounds 32-17 ??? ) but then again they didn't need to. And Reggie D2 D1 Richardson did put up 15 but all 15 came in scrub time AKA the second had, he didn't do a damn thing when the game was on the line which wasn't very long.  So while we AMCC fans (which includes myself) were looking for a step toward national respectability, we slipped fell down the stairs and ended up on our arsses.  So hey better luck next year when maybe we can put up a real contender (for a first round win that is). 

In all honesty congrats to LE on a great season and congrats to Wittenberg on a good ol fashion backyard beating and good luck the rest of the way. 

One parting shot Big Jokes, did Richardson and Williams bring their A+++ games like "they always do"? I Think Not.  Good career Reg and hey the cupboards aren't bare they have Williams and the "unstoppable" Harris comin back so maybe next year is their year.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on March 04, 2006, 10:24:27 AM
On th bright side, Pitt-Greensburg will play in the ECAC South Region final. And the Medaille women won their first-round NCAA game.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on March 04, 2006, 03:58:22 PM
Well I was never a big fan of Lake Erie I think its pretty pathetic
to come on here and kick them as you said when they where down

they did win the AMCC and I didnt go to the game or listen to the game so
I am not sure what happened, but I still think that you guys could have  a little class by at least saving your kindergarten antics for somewhere else..

As for Pitt-Greensburg...Good Luck guys!
Not a fan of the coach but a UPB alumi is on the team

GO TIMMY!!!!

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on March 04, 2006, 04:33:28 PM
berlychick,
put a sock in it, joker doesn't need somebody else's mom to defend him, or the lake Erie team doesn't need you to defend them either.  Sports is a game and part of the game is, when you win you are praised and when you lose you are ridiculed, so oh well.  And i didn't listen or go to the game either but when you lose by 36 points it's obvious to me that 100% effort wasn't put forth.  The only time teams get beat that bad is when (a) they aren't talented enough (which isn't the case here or (b) they give up before or some point during the game (which is probably what happened). So when a team is criticized for losing by 36 points when people believed in them, let them defend themselves.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on March 04, 2006, 07:42:00 PM
canbestopped

I think that if you want to say that they didnt play well enough said
you dont have to come on here and rub their noses
I am nobodies mom on here ...

thank god i am not yours or your A@# would be alittle blistered right now
maybe thats your problem

you where never praised as a child so you dont have a problem making a player feel bad..no one and i mean no one goes onto the court with the intention of losing..(unless they might be you)
so I think that rubbing LE nose in the fact that they got their butts beat is not needed...and if you're a fan of the game you might know that
but instead i am sensing that you are a bully so nough said

so instead of me you might want to stick your sock...well I am too much of lady to finish this
my point why i was never a HUGH fan of LE...fans and players of LE like you

are by any chance Mike R...?  bc you sound like him
a big a@# with no talent...there is that better run your players down?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on March 04, 2006, 11:24:36 PM
Through all that gibberish I think u were trying to insult me. LOL... You don't know **** so don't critique my views and opinion because they are just that, MY views and opinions and my rights allow me to express them.  Plus unlike you I highly doubt Lake Erie's team is reading my posts and getting upset about them.   You're right I am a "bully" because i call a spade a spade.  Lake Erie sucked so I said they sucked.  Plus I actually played ball I wasn't just the mommy of some bum so yeah i do think i can express my opinions.

Plus aren't you a little OLD to be bickering on a basketball website when you have nothing to do with the game of basketball or never have?

And my mom would never call herself berlychick thats more the name of a transvestite.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hoopsphanatic on March 05, 2006, 02:30:04 AM
cantbestopped... i think you need to do alittle research on who you insult... i believe her son isnt a bum.. mabye a first team all confrence player and 1000 point scored and 2 time AMCC champ and 2 time NCAA tourny bid player...  all of which im sure ull never know or come close to achieving... i also believe she has been around the AMCC and college basketball and basketball in general since u were probably still in 5th and 6th grade basketball learning how to dribble... so maybe you need to stop attacking people and go work on your jump shot.. your team is gonna need that from you... and if u work on ur game maybe you will be half the player as her son!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on March 06, 2006, 10:16:59 AM
not sure who you are hoopsfantantic but thanks
Yes my son was  a good player and did achieve all of those things
and I have been around basketball as a player, coach and parent
as of trying to insult you cantbestopped, no that wasnt my initial intents...I was only making the point that whether you know it or not...parents do read these posts and I wouldnt want to read things saying my son "sucked"..

As for you being a player...dont know who you are but apparently some ppl have heard of my son..and maybe you should just hit the court...
as for my handle...please...its mine and i think i am allowed to choose one..as for your mom...

God Bless her

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on March 06, 2006, 01:55:10 PM
Is this going to degenerate into "yo mama" jokes? :) If so, I will stick around. Seriously, I think the time has come for me to go back into basketball hibernation. See you in the fall. I really hope we can get more AMCC fans involved here. And maybe fewer players posing as fans, but without them, I guess it would be pretty boring. Have a great summer everyone! The snow will be spitting and the sneakers will be squeaking again before we know it.

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on March 06, 2006, 02:09:11 PM
Well the sneakers squeaking I can handle but I can do without that snow...
Have  a  great summer...and enjoy the Madness..
hoping to get to go to a game or 2 in NYC during the Big East Tourney..

Peace out
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on March 08, 2006, 03:35:37 PM
Getting ready to settle in for the Big East Tourney tonight
wasnt able to make the trip to NYC tonight

I am hoping that the weekend fairs better

GO PITT!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on March 09, 2006, 04:09:54 PM
Dave Niland mentioned as a possible candidate for the coaching vacancy at D-I Canisius in Buffalo.

"There are plenty of logical candidates, however, who have Canisius ties. They would include:

Penn State-Behrend head coach Dave Niland, a former Griff assistant with MacDonald under John Beilein who has led the Erie, Pa., school to 219 wins and three Division III NCAA Tournament berths in 12 seasons as the head man.

Full article (will expire in 10 days):

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060309/1003756.asp
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: zosobob on March 11, 2006, 11:53:12 PM
'cuse wins, great game though
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: jzflak15 on March 16, 2006, 07:43:38 PM
If Niland gets that job Behrend will not be the same team next season..not even close.they will be a .500 club..he has his players believe in his system..I could see him leaving they pa the head coach there about 85,000 a year and niland woldnt have to teach like he does at behrend...he prolly makes around 45 at behrend....As for richardson..he is for sure a division 2 player...there are numerous teams he would start on...maybe not every..but he would start for Slippery Rock...Lock Haven..Clarion...look at cooper he started at robert morris and went to greensburg it was a better  fit for him...Watch out for Pitt Bradford nex season....Thomas, Race, Copley, Austin and some recruits...they will be a good team...Duke cooper not getting POY is a joke..no offense to Bucysnki but this was his first year even starting...Cooper was a complete player game in and out and was the overall best player..and was mosgt valuable to his team
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on March 24, 2006, 02:49:30 PM
Just sitting here watching the PIAA PA State basketball playoffs
Nice to see ECC out of St Marys in there..
they have had a excellent program for alot of years
and Coach Straub is really a motivator...

Hope to see them lifting the trophy @ the end


So how is everyone doing with the NCAA Brackets?  Mine sucks... :-[

I guess thats why they call it MADNESS!!!!

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: berlychick on March 30, 2006, 08:31:40 AM
Well its Final 4 time and since my UCONN team is out

I am leaning towards LSU..

Gotta love any team that has a player  "BIG BABY"

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on June 29, 2006, 03:44:40 PM
Mike MacDonald, former D1 Canisius coach, named new Medaille head men's basketball coach.

Discuss.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on July 07, 2006, 09:40:55 AM
With Pete "Lucky" Lonergan taking over the AD position you knew there was going to be some changes at Medaille.. Who better than to bring your long time friend Mike McDonald.. A move in the right direction for the Mavs..I think it's great that Coach Mac took over at Medaille... With the girls team gaining national recognition something needed to be done about this Men's team.. Do I think it is the answer to all their problems?? No... But, it can only bring good things for the program... A D1 coach at a D3 school, can't do them any harm.. I don't know what it will do for their recruiting.. I feel he was hired kind of late in the summer but he still has about a moht or so to get those players from from the Buffalo area with out a college to Medaille.. If the can build around James they might have a shot at getting into the AMCC playoffs, in 08'... Starting from the top down is a good way to do it.. It has been a rollercoaster ride for the Mavs, hopefully this is a sign of good things to come.. Best of luck to coach Hack in future endavors..
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: upb88 on July 11, 2006, 04:12:12 PM
Yep, hearing the news about Medaille, I decided to see if there was any talk on here about it. If the hiring means Medaille is trying to get better, then I think it's great. I'm all for having 10 solid programs in our conference -- no one wants to see any program struggle. I don't know about the precedent of a Division I coach going to Division III, but it might lend some credibility to the AMCC and bring it a bit more attention in the Buffalo media. I'd love to see a rivalry build up between Medaille, Hilbert and Pitt-Bradford -- you could call it the 219 rivalry. :) Hope everyone is having a great summer. It's finally starting to feel like summer, that's for sure.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on August 23, 2006, 03:29:59 AM
Any News on the AMCC mens side?? Who does everyone like this year??  what about sleepers
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 06, 2006, 02:41:01 PM
Frostburgs Roster Is UP!!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: freeballin on November 16, 2006, 11:26:48 AM
so is Hilbert's, along with their season preview

www.hilbert.edu (http://www.hilbert.edu)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: freeballin on November 19, 2006, 03:29:46 PM
Hilbert wins a barn-burner over Hobart 73-70 (39-37 at the half). Get some big stops and a HUGE charge call down the stretch to take it, Reinard 23pts, Vander Sluis 16pts 9 boards, reyes 9 points 7 rebounds 9 assists. As a team they shot 53% from 3 point land and 93% from the line
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on November 19, 2006, 08:29:16 PM
Well another year of exciting AMCC basketball is upon us and we have a lot of developing storylines already in the conference.

Let's start with Lake Erie College and its very impressive start to the season.  They defeated Geneseo State, who returns virtually its entire roster, and then came back the next day to defeat perennial power U of R.  Darnell Campbell looks to have stepped up his game, scoring a game-high 31 points against Geneseo.  Howard Washington and Rob Williams each had strong games against U of R.  Washington's performance earned him MVP honors of the tournament.  Lake Erie looks like it should be the team to beat this season.

Pitt-Greensburg entered the post-Duke Cooper era this weekend and as expected struggled.  The Bobcats lost to Dickinson, who was 6-19 a season ago, and then fell to Messiah by 20.  It might be a long year for UPG, but again its too early to tell.  Ed Montgomery had 23 points against Dickinson and had a team-high 16 against Messiah.

Penn State Behrend, behind preseason POY Kevin Buczynski, split its two games this weekend.  The 6'7" center tallied 28 points in the win over Elmira then had nine against a very good Ohio Weslyan team.  Dan Ziegler also had a strong weekend as he was named to the All-Tournament Team with Buczynski.

Hilbert opened their 2006-07 campaign with a 73-70 victory over Hobart.  The Hawks fell behind early, but came back behind Dallas Reinard's 23 points.  Fellow second team All-AMCC selection Corey Vander Sluis registered 16 points and nine rebounds off the bench.

La Roche got hammered in its first two games, losing to Kenyon and Mount Vernon Nazarene by a combined 41 points.  Stacey Grady didn't play in the first game against Kenyon and then had 12 points off the bench against Mount Vernon.  No other Red Hawk scored in double figures in the two games.

Frostburg was idle this week. 

Mount Aloysius also split this weekend, winning the first round of its own Coaches vs. Cancer tournament and then falling to Salisbury in the championship game.  Roman Mims and Sam Hanik led the charge in the first game against Gallaudet, scoring a combined 60 points.  Mims had 32 and Hanik had 28 for the Mounties.  Against Salisbury, Mims scored 28 points in 31 minutes in the 97-76 loss.

Pitt Bradford had a disappointing start to its season, dropping its first two games.  The Panthers lost to St. Lawrence and then got destroyed by Brockport State.  Ryan Race really struggled, scoring just 14 points over the two-game stretch.  Dan Thomas had 20 points against Brockport.

PS-Altoona also dropped its first two games, losing a heartbreaker in double-overtime to Bethany before falling to Franciscan on Saturday.  Colin Geiger led four players in double-figures against Bethany with 22.  Tyler Franklin, an all-conference selection a year ago, had only six points.  Franklin bounced back against Franciscan, scoring a team-best 25 points.

Medaille split this weekend, winning against UAA member Case Western before losing to Marietta (OH).  James McNeil had a very efficient game against CWU, scoring 19 points on only nine shots!  Scott Hack also had a strong game, scoring 20.  McNeil was back to his chucking ways against Marietta but wasn't quite as bad, going 4-for-13 for 12 points.  Brandon Beers had 14.

Good to have basketball season back.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ballfan on December 06, 2006, 10:14:30 PM
Well Ryan Race I hear tell scored his 1000 pt tonight against Penn State Altoona in the Panthers 6 straight win..
Congrats Ryan...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: pennstghs on December 13, 2006, 01:40:24 PM
lake erie college???? the same school that witt embarassed in the tourney? they need to prove themselves a little first guys
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ballfan on December 14, 2006, 09:56:13 PM
Well as you can see UPB has turned around from the 2 losses..
they are now 4-0 in the AMCC and 7-2 overall..
Not too shabby..for a team that struggled in those first two games..
Race scoring 1000 pts but they are without Mark Austin for awhile, and that might hurt them inside..not a big guy but he sure can bang with those big guys..
Good Luck Mark and hurry back...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 17, 2006, 05:00:36 PM
Any words on frostburg this year, i know they seem really really young but i see they have put up a few wins
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: jzflak15 on December 21, 2006, 03:55:24 AM
As we hit the winter break for mens basketball there are really no surprises. Hilbert at 1-3 is a little bit of a shocker but they seem to be alright. Behrend, Bradford, and lake Erie are all undefeated. Frostburg is right behind them. I think after that Hilbert is the next best team, with Aloysius right behind them. Altoona isnt a bad team, they just upset Lincoln university. After them you have La Roche, Medialle, and Greensburg who are all very inconsistent. if you had to pick a first team right now this is how I think it would look.

First Team
Roman Mims 20.4 ppg, leads the conference in 3's made, can score 30+ any night
Tyler Franklin 20.5 ppg, 54% from the field
Kevin Buchynski  16.9 ppg, 57% fg team is 4-0 8.0 rpg
Dan Thomas- team is 4-0 in the  AMCC  16.4 ppg, 4.5 apg, 82.0 ft % 72 fta
Antoine McCall  13.7 ppg. 5.0 rpg, teams best overall player 3-1 in amcc play

Second Team
Corey Vander Sluis
Dallas Reinard
Robert Williams
Brian Green Jr.
Darnell Campbell


Honorable mention
James McNeil
Stacy Grady   
Keith Hazel   
Dale Deberry
Howard Washington
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: FSU Bobcats on January 13, 2007, 05:47:38 PM
Quote from: zonescantstopme on December 17, 2006, 05:00:36 PM
Any words on frostburg this year, i know they seem really really young but i see they have put up a few wins

Our OOC record was brutal.  But since the start of conference play, things have started to look up.  We're 5-1 in conference which puts us second behind PSB and Lake Erie.  Our lone conference loss was to PSB.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: jzflak15 on January 18, 2007, 10:36:44 PM
La Roche loses to medaille at home...Mcneil 25 points
Lake Erie beats Behrend at PSB...Buchynski 26 points in loss....
Altoona wins at UPG...franklin 23 pts
Hilbert loses at home to bradford...reinard 30 points...probably the best player in the amcc this season....point wise
This is how I see the top 6 getting in

1. Lake Erie
2. Behrend
3. Hilbert
4. Bradford
5. Frostburg
6. Altoona or  La Roche
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: pennstghs on February 06, 2007, 11:31:54 PM
wow exciting board
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on February 18, 2007, 05:11:00 PM
The AMCC concluded its regular season this weekend, and it looks as though it will be a two-team race to the tournament title this week. 

Up until last week, Lake Erie looked unbeatable and was cruising along on a 19-game winning streak before dropping an overtime decision to Penn State Behrend.  The Storm recovered to win their final conference contest against Frostburg and will host the AMCC tournament this weekend.   One thing to keep in mind is that LEC has been without the services of starters Jacjen Harris and Darnell Campbell in each of the last two games.  They lost against Behrend in large part because they were outrebounded 46-32 and will have a tough time again if these two players aren't mixing it up inside.

Penn State Behrend enters the tournament as the second seed after finishing the regular season with an 18-6 record and 16-2 in the AMCC.  Kevin Buczynski has had another fabulous year, averaging 18.1 points and 7.0 rebounds while shooting almost 60 percent from the field!  This Behrend team relies a lot on freshmen and sophomores, and has no seniors on the roster.  Will be interesting to see how they handle the road trip to Cleveland.

Pitt-Bradford was maybe the surprise team of the season this year, having been picked to finish in 7th place in the preseason coaches poll.  Dan Thomas has had a tremendous senior season, leading the team in scoring (15.2 PPG) and assists (3.7/game).  Ryan Race has had a rough go-about in his final year at Bradford, but has fought through injuries and has rebounded effectively in his last two games with double-digit efforts.  The Panthers will face Penn State Altoona in the first round of the tournament.

The Hawks of Hilbert have had an up-and-down year, winning five out of six games to start the new year before dropping five straight conference games, including two by two points.  HC has bounced back to finish strong at the end, winning four out of its final five contests.  Dallas Reinard has had an MVP-type season, leading the conference in scoring at nearly 22 points per contest while shooting 43 percent from beyond the arc.  Hilbert lost a viable low-post scoring threat midseason when Corey Vander Sluis was dropped from the roster, but they have played well of late and will have a home game against Frostburg State in the first round.

Frostburg lost its final four games and five of its last six and enter as the #5 seed in the tournament.  Antione McCall leads the team in scoring and rebounding but the Bobcats had a lot of their victories early in the season and have not been playing all that well of late.  They will face Hilbert in the opening round.

If not for Pitt-Bradford, Penn State Altoona's emergence as a playoff team would be the story of the AMCC.  Last year, the Lions had a lot of close losses but definitely had the talent to play with the big boys, having beaten Behrend by two late in the year.  This season, they have again relied on star Tyler Franklin, a first-team All-AMCC selection a season ago.  He's averaging a team-best 18.1 PPG but has also had help this year as Colin Geiger and Quinton Dziabo have taken some pressure off Franklin.  Altoona will face Bradford in the first round.

The rest of the conference teams saw their seasons come to a close this weekend.  Medaille finished the season with 11 wins, seven in the AMCC, and if they could've knocked off Hilbert in the season finale, would've found themselves in the tournament following two years that saw the Mavs go 4-46.  Mike MacDonald should be commended for the job he did this season.  Watch out for Medaille in future years.

La Roche finished out of the playoffs for the first time since the AMCC expanded, finishing with a 6-11 mark in conference.  Stacey Grady will be considered for first team honors after finishing sixth in the conference in scoring, but he didn't have nearly enough help from others this year.

Pitt-Greensburg and Mount Aloysius comprise the bottom two teams in the conference.  Greensburg really struggled this season, and it really wasn't that unexpected as they have lost the best two players in the conference (Conlon and Cooper) in each of the last two years.  They also lost Scavincky before the year even began, further depleting the team of talent.  The Mounties have struggled since joining the conference, and while their style of play is fun to watch and fun to play in, it has not translated into much on-the-court success. 

Quarterfinal Matchups

#6 Penn State Altoona at #3 Pitt-Bradford - These two teams split the two games during the regular season, with each squad winning on its own home court.  Bradford beat the Lions, 75-63, in the first week of conference play back in December.  Jon Hannon had a team-high 21 points for the Panthers, while Tyler Franklin was nearly unstoppable, going 12-for-14 from the field and tallying 30 points in 35 minutes.  UPB led by 16 at halftime and led comfortably throughout the second half.

In the second matchup, Franklin tallied 18 points and Quinton Dziabo added 22 points and 10 rebounds as the Lions returned the favor at home with a 77-56 victory.  Shawn Spindler and Cameron Hubbard were the only UPB players in double figured with 11 and 10 points, respectively. 

I think this game is going to be a close game, but ultimately I think home court advantage and the play of Dan Thomas are going to be the deciding factors.  But Franklin can single-handedly win a game, and the Panthers really don't have anyone that can matchup with him, evidenced by his 24 PPG scoring average in the regular season. 

#5 Frostburg State vs. #4 Hilbert - The Hawks dominated the Bobcats in the regular season, winning the first game by 14 points at home and taking the second by 17 in Maryland.  The AMCC's leading scorer Dallas Reinard averaged 25.5 points per game against FSU.  Antoine McCall tallied 27 points in the second contest.  Hilbert has shot the lights out vs. FSU's defense, shooting nearly 53 percent from the floor in the two contests.   I think Hilbert takes this game and advances to the semifinals.

Postseason Awards:

Player of the Year:   There are a lot of good candidates, but I think you have to give the award to someone on Lake Erie.  They've had a tremendous year, and even though none of the players on the team really has unbelievable stats, I think you have to reward them.  Derrick Thornton leads the team in scoring and rebounding, but he's only a sophomore.  And the senior guards (Williams and Washington) are both averaging double figures, but neither has eye-popping stats.  Harris is a nice player, but not POY worthy.  So after much evaluation, I guess you have to give the award to Buczynski again.  I've already mentioned his numbers, and without him Behrend would be a completely different team.  Honorable mention to Dallas Reinard, Dan Thomas and Tyler Franklin, as well as the players from LEC.

Rookie of the Year:   Unless I'm missing someone, there really was not an impact rookie in this year's freshman class.  A lot of guys have come off the bench to provide depth, but they haven't been the focal point of an offense.  Justin Kovac of PSB might be the closest thing to an impact freshman, having started most of the Lions games and averaging 7.0 points per game.  Chris Moscato from Medaille has also had a good year.

Good luck to all the teams...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 18, 2007, 06:38:24 PM
Quote from: Hawk Backer on February 18, 2007, 05:11:00 PM
One thing to keep in mind is that LEC has been without the services of starters Jacjen Harris and Darnell Campbell in each of the last two games.  They lost against Behrend in large part because they were outrebounded 46-32 and will have a tough time again if these two players aren't mixing it up inside.

Why was LEC without the services of those 2 starters?  Was it injuries and if so, how serious were the injuries?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on February 19, 2007, 12:00:55 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on February 18, 2007, 06:38:24 PM
Why was LEC without the services of those 2 starters?  Was it injuries and if so, how serious were the injuries?

Harris has a broken big toe and is probably going to give it a go in the playoffs.  Campbell has a broken hand and is questionable for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 19, 2007, 12:43:18 AM
Thanks for a great breakdown of the conference tournament, nice.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on February 20, 2007, 11:42:09 AM
Pat has caculated the top 200 QoWIs nationwide and posted the result in a couple of the multi-region rooms.  Here's the GL teams extracted from that list, FYI.  I have added the in-region win %, which can be found here (http://www.d3hoops.com/regions.php?region=greatlakes&team=m&view=standings).

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 20, 2007, 05:01:39 AM
OK, these passed a great deal of scrutiny tonight. Through Sunday's games:

Rank   Points   Team
11   10.600   Lake Erie (.950)
20   10.318   John Carroll (.727)
21   10.316   Wooster (.895)
31   10.100   Ohio Northern (.700)
38   9.950   Wittenberg (.800)
47   9.765   Hope (.824)
60   9.500   Capital (.667)
65   9.450   Baldwin-Wallace (.700)
72   9.316   Westminster (Pa.) (.842)
75   9.261   Otterbein (.609)
82   9.174   Penn State-Behrend
115   8.619   Ohio Wesleyan (.739)
116   8.619   Carnegie Mellon (.524)
118   8.588   Calvin (.647)
132   8.435   Heidelberg (.522)
135   8.400   Bethany (.700)
148   8.188   Tri-State (.625)
159   8.083   Wilmington (.500)
164   8.000   Muskingum (.478)
166   7.944   Albion (.556)
197   7.591   Mount Union (.364)

Based on this, I'd expect Wednesday's regional rankings to be

1. Lake Erie
2. Wooster
3. JCU
4. Hope
5. Wittenberg
6. Ohio Northern
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: jzflak15 on February 20, 2007, 01:32:57 PM
This is what the All Conference Team will probably look like:

   First Team

Tyler Franklin
Dallas Reinard
Kevin Buchynski
Derrick Thonton
Robert Williams

Second Team

  Roman Mims
  James McNeil
  Dan Thomas
  Antoine McCall
  Darnell Campbell

Honorable Mention

Stacy Grady
Dale Deberry
Sam Hanik
Glen Ufland
Quinton Dziabo


Player of the year: Dallas Reinard
Newcomer of the year: Zach Spitz Altoona
Coach Of the year: Al Seretti Altoona
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ChicagoHopeNut on February 24, 2007, 05:02:13 PM
An exciting championship game for the AMCC today. Penn St. Behrend played great the entire game but let it slip away on the road in the last 5 seconds. Lake Erie hit a three with 4.7 seconds left to take its first lead of the second half at 59-58. Penn St. Behrend got off a desperation shot to end the game but it fell well short of the basket and Lake Erie will head to the NCAAs for the second year in the row.

Penn St. Behrend should be encouraged after a good year, finishing 19-7. There were no seniors on Penn St. Behrend's team so they should be a force to be reckoned with in the AMCC next year.

Thanks to Lake Erie for preserving another Pool C slot as well. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Toph on February 28, 2007, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: DCHopeNut on February 24, 2007, 05:02:13 PM

Thanks to Lake Erie for preserving another Pool C slot as well. ;)

Thanks to Lake Erie for realizing that an 850 seat gym isn't large enough to host a tournament game and yielding to the JCU/Westminster winner...oh, that didn't happen?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: StormFront on March 01, 2007, 03:25:33 PM
Campbell hasn't dressed since his injury and is out for the rest of the year, no matter how far they go.

Jajcen Harris has a broken toe and sat out the last few regular season games.  He is limping around campus, but had the toe numbed before the AMCC playoff games and probably will do the same for the NCAA tournament.  You can see when the medications wear off, though, as he grimaces after a few minutes in the game.

While LEC hasn't missed Campbell all that much, they are a very different team and can do nothing inside without Harris in the lineup.  Skopal, his backup, is big but doesn't have Harris' shot, agility, or hands.

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Toph on March 01, 2007, 03:47:48 PM
The question is will they beat JCU or Westminster, or will they have the same sort of showing they had last year?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: pennstghs on March 01, 2007, 04:41:04 PM
well even if they improve a little upon last year it could be another blowout
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: diehardfan on March 01, 2007, 05:05:53 PM
We're collecting previews for each team in the tourney on one of the multiregional boards. If I get them by friday I may even be able to stick them in one document for people to peruse. A fun little tourney resource of sorts. Could someone here do one for Lake Erie? Hawkbacker seems over qualified for the job, ;) but anyone is welcome to do it of course! Thanks!

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=5147.0
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: StormFront on March 01, 2007, 05:53:37 PM
Lake Erie is a much better team than last year's, but still had moments when they seemed to lose focus. 

The latest news from the campus is that Harris will play as much as he can.  Campbell has his cast off and is practicing.  Look for him to start on Saturday.

Unfortunately for Lake Erie, the new President of the school wants to take them to Division II in 2008 when they start their football program.  They won't be competitive again for a long time, if ever.  There isn't a whole lot of Division II talent on the team.

The President is selling the move to the Board and faculty by saying that Division III is breaking up or splitting in two and that teams are leaving D3 left and right.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: sac on March 01, 2007, 05:55:20 PM
Quote from: StormFront on March 01, 2007, 05:53:37 PM
The President is selling the move to the Board and faculty by saying that Division III is breaking up or splitting in two and that teams are leaving D3 left and right.

A well informed individual
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Toph on March 01, 2007, 10:04:52 PM
Perhaps we can persuade the president that it would be a much better idea to hold Saturday's game at Carroll...since JCU brought 300-400 people to Capital, imagine how many will come to a game that's just up the road...and you won't have the facilities for it. 

Seriously, if I were in charge at JCU I would offer 750 tickets to Lake Erie College.  That's the size of your gym, and not even half the size of Carroll's.  This is a joke.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on March 01, 2007, 10:16:55 PM
Cry me a river.  John Carroll lost nine games, and if they beat Lake Erie, so be it.  But LEC earned the right to host with only one D3 loss. 
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Toph on March 02, 2007, 08:21:32 AM
So your logic is to play in a bad conference, play (almost) nobody all year, and have a nice record to get a number one seed?  And if you're only counting D3 losses, JCU only has seven.  How many losses does LEC have with JCU's schedule?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on March 02, 2007, 10:03:51 AM
Who knows, but thats why they play the games.... We'll see tomorrow, wont we?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Toph on March 02, 2007, 10:39:39 AM
Quote from: Hawk Backer on March 02, 2007, 10:03:51 AM
We'll see tomorrow, wont we?

Only if we can get tickets.  After all, this event is super exclusive.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Toph on March 02, 2007, 01:12:39 PM
Surprise!  It's sold out...I hope everyone has tickets.  Couldn't they at least have this at a local high school?  There has to be a gym with more capacity.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 03, 2007, 12:06:56 AM
THIS JUST IN:  In a shocking upset, BYE downs Lake Erie College by 3 in 2OTs!  JCU head coach Mike Moran is frantically seeking game tapes of BYE.  "It's really frustrating," said Coach Moran.  "How can I game-plan if I have no idea what freakin' tempo they play?"  Despite repeated calls to the NCAA travel office, JCU is not even sure how to get to the campus of BYE.  "Our fans are also upset because they've heard the game is sold out, but, golly gee, if we can't find the durn gym, we may have to forfeit," said the clearly flustered coach.

Further details on Late Action News.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: diehardfan on March 03, 2007, 12:31:45 AM
LOL.... Now that BYE's fans have seen Lake Erie play, perhaps THEY can write a preview for Lake Erie for The unofficial Posters guide to the 2006-2007 Men's Basketball Tourney... which is now done!

http://wheatonhoops.googlepages.com/ncaatourney

We are still, however, missing Lake Erie in our Poster Preview, which is a terrible, terrible shame. If you want to get your stuff into me on this board: http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=5147.0 or via PM I will be more than happy to add it to the site and PDF document! Thanks!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: diehardfan on March 03, 2007, 08:06:34 PM
Woaah!  Lake Erie is currently kicking John Carroll's rears! I'm listening to the Lake Erie broadcast... This is really fun! Wheee! Shun the nonbelievers... Shhhuuunnn... ;D

This just makes it more sad that they don't have a preview though. :(
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: diehardfan on March 03, 2007, 08:50:45 PM
Man! Lake Erie loses their lead with 29seconds in the game and loses!!! They were winning all game! ???
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: StormFront on March 03, 2007, 09:42:09 PM
Quote from: Toph on March 02, 2007, 08:21:32 AM
So your logic is to play in a bad conference, play (almost) nobody all year, and have a nice record to get a number one seed?  And if you're only counting D3 losses, JCU only has seven.  How many losses does LEC have with JCU's schedule?

After watching tonight's game, I'd say LEC loses six with JCU's schedule.  They were clearly a better team than JCU, even without Campbell and with a crippled Harris.  With them, it isn't close.  As it was, only some really dumb passes and long shots with no one under the basket kept LEC from winning. 

If these teams play 10 times, LEC wins six or seven of them.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on March 03, 2007, 11:14:40 PM
It probably isn't much consolation, but I expect Lake Erie turned a lot of doubters nationwide into believers tonight just by playing John Carroll tough, despite the unfortunate outcome.  If Lake Erie can play even with probably the best team in the OAC, then they are for real, and that's a very big improvement over last season's miserable end.  Congratulations to the Storm on a fantastic season, and good luck next year!

Oh, and don't go to Division 2.  Good grief.  Tell your president that D3 is where it's at.   :)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Toph on March 04, 2007, 08:28:32 PM
QuoteThey were clearly a better team than JCU

I disagree with this statement entirely.  While LEC played tough and led nearly the entire game, the "better team" would never blow a 16 point lead with 11 minutes to go, so don't give me that.  Now, I would've loved to see LEC at full strength.  JCU probably would've lost.  LEC was the faster, more athletic team, but they were also the sloppier, more careless, and more out of control team.  Again, it has to be said, the "better team" doesn't blow huge leads, they crush their opponent.  Answer this question:  Does Wooster let Carroll back in, how about Stevens Point, or any of the other D3 powerhouses?  You had a big lead, and you blew it in a big way.  Congrats on a good season, and thanks for the hospitality in that middle school sized gym.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on March 04, 2007, 09:43:55 PM
Quote from: Toph on March 04, 2007, 08:28:32 PM
I disagree with this statement entirely.  While LEC played tough and led nearly the entire game, the "better team" would never blow a 16 point lead with 11 minutes to go, so don't give me that.  Now, I would've loved to see LEC at full strength.  JCU probably would've lost.  LEC was the faster, more athletic team, but they were also the sloppier, more careless, and more out of control team.  Again, it has to be said, the "better team" doesn't blow huge leads, they crush their opponent.  Answer this question:  Does Wooster let Carroll back in, how about Stevens Point, or any of the other D3 powerhouses?  You had a big lead, and you blew it in a big way.  Congrats on a good season, and thanks for the hospitality in that middle school sized gym.

Classy post.  Thanks for stopping by.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Toph on March 05, 2007, 08:21:12 AM
I guess you're being sarcastic, but I can't figure out why.  That's my breakdown of the game and response to the notion that LEC was "clearly the better team."
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 26, 2007, 02:14:06 AM
Front page announces the addition of Franciscan (a second-year provisional in 2008-09) and D'Youville (2009-10), joining as Lake Erie goes to D-II.

Has anyone heard of Frostburg State, a football school, going to the Capital AC to help the Capital AC add football?  Currently, Salisbury (MD), Wesley (DE) play football and there are discussions occurring on other campuses.  A conference needs four full members to sponsor football and at least 3 affiliates to make the 7 necessary for the AQ.

This seems to be a choreographed ballet.  Is this also giving Keuka and Cazenovia a chance to ramp up their programs to an acceptable level to create a northern division of the AMCC?  Frostburg State, a public school and the southernmost, might permitted to leave if there were an acceptable strategy to maintain conference integrity that would benefit the most.

Just speculation...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2007, 05:24:50 PM
Frostburg to the CAC is a possibility even without football in the picture. With the departure of Catholic and Goucher, the remaining CAC members are far more open to the idea of adding a state school.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on October 26, 2007, 01:06:35 AM
Interesting news about the addition of Franciscan and D'Youville. There will be three Buffalo schools in the AMCC, which seems to me like a bit of an overload. Both DYC and Franciscan seem to have a lot of work to do to be competitive in the league, but I know D'Youville has a coach in Brian Miller who is just now starting to get his players in there.

Overall, I'm really not that thrilled with the additions. Losing Lake Erie is going to be a big blow for the conference as far as national credibility is concerned. Frostburg hasn't been as strong in recent years but I feel like they have more potential to be a good D3 basketball team if they had the right pieces in place (i.e. coaching). We'll see, I guess...

As for the season, anyone have any information on newcomers, transfers, etc.? I'm excited for the basketball season to get started.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: FSU Bobcats on October 28, 2007, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 26, 2007, 02:14:06 AM
Front page announces the addition of Franciscan (a second-year provisional in 2008-09) and D'Youville (2009-10), joining as Lake Erie goes to D-II.

Has anyone heard of Frostburg State, a football school, going to the Capital AC to help the Capital AC add football?  Currently, Salisbury (MD), Wesley (DE) play football and there are discussions occurring on other campuses.  A conference needs four full members to sponsor football and at least 3 affiliates to make the 7 necessary for the AQ.

This seems to be a choreographed ballet.  Is this also giving Keuka and Cazenovia a chance to ramp up their programs to an acceptable level to create a northern division of the AMCC?  Frostburg State, a public school and the southernmost, might permitted to leave if there were an acceptable strategy to maintain conference integrity that would benefit the most.

Just speculation...

I've been hearing that for a long time now.  It makes sense for FSU to move away from the AMCC as they seem to becoming more Northern in their makeup (Northern meaning three Buffalo teams) and goodness knows we need a better football conference to be a part of right now.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 08, 2007, 07:08:14 PM

Folks -

I am normally a poster in the Centennial Conference room. However, I found this link on the Conference website to an article in The Baltimore Sun containing pre-season previews more than just the Maryland members of the Centennial Conference. So, I am also posting it and sharing in the rooms of several other conferences: AMCC, CAC, and Landmark.

The link follows below:

//http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/basketball/mens/bal-sp.smallcaps06nov06,0,2462025.story?page=2

Enjoy! Bring on the season. Good luck to all teams. Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: StormFront on November 25, 2007, 10:51:01 PM
Great game tonight, as Lake Erie overcomes second half doldrums to defeat #8 Wooster 86-84.

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 27, 2007, 02:39:35 PM
Congratulations to the Storm!

Nice win over a quality opponent.  This really helps the conference.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on November 30, 2007, 03:11:26 PM
Well it's that time of year again... AMCC play has begun and the first five games were played on Wednesday.

Let's lead off with defending champion Lake Erie, who pulled off one of the best wins in conference history in beating #8 Wooster. The Storm traveled to Hamburg to take on Hilbert College and the Hawks made a game of it, trailing by only a bucket at halftime. LEC shot just 37 percent in the second half but was aided by Hilbert's complete ineptitude at the free throw line. 4-for-15 for the game will not get it done in an upset bid, but give the Hawks credit, they hung in there against one of the top 25 teams in D3 (in my opinion). Four players reached double-figures for the Storm in a balanced effort. Reigning Player of the Year Dallas Reinard led the Hawks with 23 points, while freshman Andy Marchand added 17, 15 of which came in the first half.

An interesting game developed in rural Pennsylvania as Mount Aloysius upset Penn State Behrend in a low scoring affair by the Mounties' standards. Mount Aloysius built a 13-point advantage at the break, led by sophomore Richard McNutt. The British center had a game-high 19 points while neutralizing Behrend's top gun Kevin Buczynski, who had just two points before fouling out. Good win for the Mounties, who proved they can play a slower tempoed game as well as the up-and-down contests we've seen in the past.

Suprisingly undefeated Medaille took on Pitt Bradford at home and saw an 11-point halftime lead slip away as it fell, 67-64. Jess Whelan had a, what I'm assuming to be, career-high 32 points, including seven three-pointers and a go-ahead trifecta with just under 30 seconds left in the game. Highly-touted recruit Zach Moore was the only other player in double-figures with 11. Scoring machine James McNeil had just seven points and was a miserable 2-for-15 from the field.

Pitt-Greensburg, who finished last in the league last season, started out the 2007-08 campaign with a victory over Frostburg St. The UPG Bobcats shot a blistering 59.1 percent from the floor in the second stanza, including eight from long range. Six players had 10 points or more for UPG, including freshman Dino Tessani. Tessani had 15 points and was a perfect 5-for-5 from the floor, including 4-for-4 from downtown. Brian Anderson led the FSU Bobcats with 17 points.

Finally, La Roche dropped Penn State Altoona, 59-53. The Redhawks fought back from 10 down with 14:33 to play for the win. Dylan Grazier had 13 points while Nate Davis added 12. The Lions, who begin the Tyler Franklin-less era this season, got 14 points from Colin Geiger off the bench.

It's very early in the season, so it's tough to say who is going to be at the top of the AMCC (or should I say, under Lake Erie?). The Storm are clearly the class of the conference and the win against Wooster validates the quality of play in the league. Too bad they chose to go D2... I think it's going to end up being a huge mistake due to lack of scholarship money, facility issues and lack of on-campus housing. But if that's what administration feels is best, then by all means. It's just too bad that the AMCC will now be viewed even worse in many people's eyes and the little respect that they did have will be diminished even more.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: David Collinge on September 20, 2008, 08:57:17 PM
Jeromy Yetter (http://www.upg.pitt.edu/athletics/team.aspx?sid=2) is the new head coach at Pitt-Greensburg.  Yetter is a 2003 graduate of Lock Haven, and has coached at Juniata, Slippery Rock, Tusculum (Greenville, TN), and most recently at Washington & Jefferson, where he was an assistant coach last season.  Congratulations and best wishes to Jeromy!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hopefan on February 10, 2010, 08:22:47 AM
Sorry and surprised that this room has become dormant  -   back in the day it was quite active and I enjoyed reading about schools in my old home area Western Pa.    I particularly remember having fun antagonizing the room's founder, UPB88, regarding the 'regional campus status' of several of the schools in the conference... he didn't take to that too well....  all in fun...   hope some fans can get it going again...  believe me, the players appreciate it.....
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on February 19, 2010, 09:53:38 AM
Quote from: hopefan on February 10, 2010, 08:22:47 AM
Sorry and surprised that this room has become dormant  -   back in the day it was quite active and I enjoyed reading about schools in my old home area Western Pa.    I particularly remember having fun antagonizing the room's founder, UPB88, regarding the 'regional campus status' of several of the schools in the conference... he didn't take to that too well....  all in fun...   hope some fans can get it going again...  believe me, the players appreciate it.....

I'm drawn to the sound of crickets  (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=K8E_zMLCRNg) when thinking about this board...  8-)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: tommygun on December 17, 2010, 12:32:05 AM
I realize this board doesn't get much run these days, but I wanted to take a second to congratulate LaRoche's basketball team tonight.  In what must have been an emotional night they came out with a great win against cross-town foe Carnegie Mellon.  While the importance of winning or losing a basketball game certainly takes a backseat at times like this, they improved to 8-1 and I'm sure played the game in a way that made Coach Lang proud looking down from above.

Congratulations again to the players and coaches of LaRoche for a tremendous effort during these trying times.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hopefan on December 17, 2010, 12:43:09 AM
+1 Tommygun... thanks for bringing it to our attention...  Quite awhile back, Coach Lang answered a light question from me regarding LaRoche - I had attended HS at nearby Avonworth in the 60's - with a warm letter and a packet of LaRoche info...  it immediately put LaRoche on my list of schools to check up on from far away..  Wishing continued success to the guys on the team and prayers for their understanding of  the events of last week...
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: pittfan on December 20, 2010, 11:29:15 PM
Really unfortunate news about Coach Lang. Watched his teams for a number of years and saw him play in a summer league around Pittsburgh a few years back. Fine man and coach. Our prayers go out to his family.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: pittfan on December 28, 2010, 12:45:00 PM
Anyone out there hear anything about the Pitt Bradford coach being let go recently?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on December 28, 2010, 11:51:22 PM
Quote from: pittfan on December 28, 2010, 12:45:00 PM
Anyone out there hear anything about the Pitt Bradford coach being let go recently?

Brian Sansom was named the interim head basketball coach on December 22nd.
Here is the link: http://www.upb.pitt.edu/NewsReleases.aspx?menu_id=250&id=21486
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hopefan on January 07, 2011, 11:55:47 AM
Read some interesting and passionate comments regarding the 'release' of Coach Moore from UPD, including one from former posting pal UPB88....  seems to be a very unfortunate and unpopular situation.... I'm very sorry to hear of it, especially to a guy who has given so much of himself to one school.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: pittfan on January 07, 2011, 01:29:12 PM
I am somewhat familiar with Coach Moore and although he is very popular in the Olean area I am sure there are some people who aren't unhappy with the move. I have even heard that some are are surprised that it took so long. I know he was suspended for a short time during the 2002 season. Maybe there is a behavior pattern that needs to be addressed. I'd like to hear the other side of the story before I jump to his defense.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Wydown Blvd. on January 28, 2011, 12:26:50 AM
 Almost brought me to tears  (http://www.thepostgame.com/homepage/201101/big-coach-little-gym)

God bless his family and Go Redhawks!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2011, 03:18:13 PM
First Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/02/ncaas-mens-regional-rankings/
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: pittfan on May 16, 2011, 01:14:38 PM
Any word out there about a new coach at Pitt Bradford and the fate of former coach Andy Moore?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: WAlum on June 02, 2011, 01:33:31 PM
http://www.upb.pitt.edu/NewsReleases.aspx?menu_id=96&id=22857

Britt Moore is the new man at Pitt-Bradford
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hopefan on July 12, 2015, 04:56:39 AM
Have to chuckle that no one has posted in this room since 2011, but some D3 Readers would be interested to know that Doug West was just hired last week as Head Coach at Penn State Altoona... The same Doug West that played in the NBA for 12 years and was an All American at Villanova....
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hopefan on July 13, 2015, 08:01:08 PM
I'm actually kind of surprised D3hoops.com hasn't picked up on the Doug West hire... a pretty cool story with him returning to his home town to coach a down and out program whose most successful record since the year 2000 was 14-13  (twice)

TRIVIA QUESTION .. to see if ANYONE ELSE will post in the AMCC room..
WITHOUT looking it up, can any other D3 historian tell me what other former NBA player coached hoops at PSU-Altoona... his record in each of the 3 seasons he coached never came close to .500.... in the very early 2000's

READY, SET ......  GO

Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2015, 10:07:19 PM
Quote from: hopefan on July 13, 2015, 08:01:08 PM
I'm actually kind of surprised D3hoops.com hasn't picked up on the Doug West hire... a pretty cool story with him returning to his home town to coach a down and out program whose most successful record since the year 2000 was 14-13  (twice)

TRIVIA QUESTION .. to see if ANYONE ELSE will post in the AMCC room..
WITHOUT looking it up, can any other D3 historian tell me what other former NBA player coached hoops at PSU-Altoona... his record in each of the 3 seasons he coached never came close to .500.... in the very early 2000's

READY, SET ......  GO

Well, we're aware of it, but they didn't have a photo we could make use of. I need to go digging to find something that is legit for us to use.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hopefan on July 14, 2015, 05:21:25 PM
Darn... guess that TRIVIA question was too difficult for our historian posters, or they didn't even see the question...

Curious... Pat... you chose not to give the answer, or you didn't know?

Heck... AMCC Coaches... if any of you look at this, you're eligible... someone give me the answer!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on July 14, 2015, 11:40:24 PM
Quote from: hopefan on July 14, 2015, 05:21:25 PM
Darn... guess that TRIVIA question was too difficult for our historian posters, or they didn't even see the question...

Curious... Pat... you chose not to give the answer, or you didn't know?

Heck... AMCC Coaches... if any of you look at this, you're eligible... someone give me the answer!!!!

Armon Gilliam - UNLV grad who played in the NBA for several years...initially drafted by the Phoenix Suns.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hopefan on July 15, 2015, 03:11:11 PM
GOOD JOB Wooscotsfan!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 15, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: hopefan on July 14, 2015, 05:21:25 PM
Darn... guess that TRIVIA question was too difficult for our historian posters, or they didn't even see the question...

Curious... Pat... you chose not to give the answer, or you didn't know?

Heck... AMCC Coaches... if any of you look at this, you're eligible... someone give me the answer!!!!

I posted stories about his hiring, his departure, and I think his passing.  :-\
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: hopefan on July 15, 2015, 10:01:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 15, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: hopefan on July 14, 2015, 05:21:25 PM
Darn... guess that TRIVIA question was too difficult for our historian posters, or they didn't even see the question...

Curious... Pat... you chose not to give the answer, or you didn't know?

Heck... AMCC Coaches... if any of you look at this, you're eligible... someone give me the answer!!!!

I posted stories about his hiring, his departure, and I think his passing.  :-\

Armon Gilliam....Yes quite sad... died playing pickup basketball in Pittsburgh, 2011, heart attack
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 14, 2016, 03:36:43 PM
As the basketball spins... there continue to be incredible stories around Division III as we get further into conference schedules. Teams leading conferences that no one suspected, programs finding success with alums at the helm, and Division III making national headlines but not for the obvious reasons. Tonight on Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave McHugh talks to those still proving people wrong as the season enters the second half.

Dave is in San Antonio for the NCAA Convention, so tonight's show is pre-recorded. Dave talked to most of the guests before some played their midweek games. The pre-recorded show along with podcast will be available starting at 7pm ET here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/jan14

Guests include (in order of appearance):
- Dr. Oliver Eslinger, Caltech men's coach - NABC Coach's Corner
- Rob deGrandpre, Hilbert men's coach
- Kelly Dunne, Nazareth women's coach
- Zach Filzen, No. 22 Lancaster Bible men's coach (Gordon Mann interview)
- Ashlee Rogers, Marymount women's coach

You can also tune into the podcast(s):
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville (http://www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville)
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hoopsville/id1059517087 (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hoopsville/id1059517087)

And don't forget you can always interact with us:
Website: www.d3hoopsville.com (http://www.d3hoopsville.com)
Twitter: @d3hoopsville (http://www.twitter.com/d3hoopsville) or #Hoopsville
Facebook: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville (http://www.facebook.com/Hoopsville)
Email: hoopsville@d3hoops.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/d3hoopsville (http://www.youtube.com/user/d3hoopsville)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 03, 2016, 04:40:09 PM
For the third consecutive year, Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) will air for 12 hours as the regular season enters the final four weeks. Dave McHugh will chat with coaches, administrators, student-athletes, and others involved in Division III basketball from around the country. Other guests will include those who have Division III roots or appreciate the division and the game along with the student-athletes who play the sport.

Hoopsville will air from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. (and maybe later) on Thursday, February 4 live from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can see what guests are scheduled, get more information, and watch the show here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb4

You can also read the press release about the show: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/hoopsville-marathon-2016

Here is the guest list as we speak. All times are Eastern and subject to change. Additional guests to be added if and when necessary:


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
TimeGuestSchool
10:15amConnie TilleySt. Norbert (WBB) - WBCA Center Court
10:40amJamie PurdyPeidmont (WBB)
11:00amKeri CarolloUW-Whitewater (WBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair
11:20amBrent PollariSaint Mary's (Minn.) (WBB)
11:40amKent MadsenNo. 21 Wheaton (Ill.) (WBB)
12:00pmRussell LoydRose-Hulman (MBB)
12:20pmKevin BroderickNazareth (MBB)
12:40pmJustin ScottArcadia (MBB)
1:00pmSam HargravesNo. 12 Alma (MBB)
1:20pmLenny ReichMount Union (SID)
1:40pmMaureen WebsterClarkson (WBB)
2:00pmBetsy WitmanYork (Pa.) (WBB)
2:20pmSara LeeDenison (WBB)
2:40pmKlay KneuppelWisconsin Lutheran (MBB)
3:00pmBrian Van HaaftenBuena Vista (MBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair
3:30pmSydney MossNo. 1 Thomas More (WBB)
3:45pmAaron RousellBucknell (WBB) - former Chicago coach
4:00pmTim ShanahanStaten Island (WBB)
4:20Pat CunninghamTrinity (Texas) (MBB) - NABC Coach's Corner
4:50pmBubba SmithSewanee (MBB)
5:15pmBen StrongFormer Guilford All-American
5:30pmKevin ConnorsESPN SportsCenter Anchor - Ithaca alumnus
6:00pmKristen DowlingClaremont-Mudd-Scripps (WBB)
6:20pmAllison ColemanSage (WBB)
6:40pmLandry KosmalskiSwarthmore (MBB)
7:00pmDave NilandNo. 23 Penn State-Behrend (MBB)
7:20pmAaron GallettaLasell (MBB)
7:40pmJohn BaronGwynedd-Mercy (MBB)
8:00pm
8:20pm
8:40pmMelissa HodgdonWheaton (Mass.) (WBB)
9:00pmG.P. GromackiNo. 2 Amherst (WBB)
9:20pmJames Wagner
9:40pmHAPPY HOURFree-for-all of calls, tweets, and fun!

We hope to get at least the full show on a podcast, or several podcast, during the on Friday. You can find it here:
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hoopsville/id1059517087

Don't forget you can always interact with us:
Website: www.d3hoopsville.com
Twitter: @d3hoopsville (http://www.twitter.com/d3hoopsville) or #Hoopsville
Facebook: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville
Email: hoopsville@d3hoops.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/d3hoopsville

And a reminder the Hoopsville Fundraising Project has begun yet again. Please consider helping us cover Division III basketball the way it deserves to be covered. If you can not donate, please don't worry about - we understand. At least share the campaign with anyone you think might be interested: http://igg.me/at/hoopsville-fundraiser/x/6029509

Also, if you know any advertisers interested in promoting their company or products on the show, send them our way: hoopsville@d3hoops.com

Thanks!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 10, 2016, 01:57:01 PM
Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/10/first-2016-regional-rankings-released-today/
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 11, 2016, 08:19:42 PM
Regional rankings are finally out and with them comes plenty of upheaval around the country. What do the rankings really mean? What teams should everyone be watching this week? Who is jockeying to lock up their conference's regular season title?

On Thursday night's Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave McHugh hopes to get a lot of these questions answered. McHugh will talk to coaches from around the country who have their teams poised to capture conference crowns or at while also positioning themselves the best they can in the regional rankings.

Hoopsville is on the air NOW, but you can also watch it On Demand or listen to the podcasts (when the show is done) here: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb11

Guests include (in order of appearance):
- Janice Luck, No. 12 Albright women's coach
- Jon VanderWal, No. 8 Marietta men's coach
- Lance Loya, Mount Aloysius men's coach - NABC Coach's Corner
- Tom Glynn, Nichols' men's coach

You can also tune into the podcast(s) after the show has aired:
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hoopsville/id1059517087

Don't forget you can always interact with us:
Website: www.d3hoopsville.com
Twitter: @d3hoopsville (http://www.twitter.com/d3hoopsville) or #Hoopsville
Facebook: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville
Email: hoopsville@d3hoops.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/d3hoopsville

And a reminder the Hoopsville Fundraising Project has begun yet again. Please consider helping us cover Division III basketball the way it deserves to be covered: http://igg.me/at/hoopsville-fundraiser/x/6029509

Also, if you know any advertisers interested in promoting their company or products on the show, send them our way: hoopsville@d3hoops.com

Thanks!
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 24, 2016, 02:14:49 PM
Final public regional rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/24/third-ncaa-regional-ranking/
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 02, 2017, 06:56:08 PM
It is nearly time to tip up the ball on the NCAA Division III Basketball Tournaments. Who will end up in Grand Rapids and Salem with a chance at a national title?

On Thursday's nights Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave McHugh gives his preview of the two tournaments and who may be the surprises, who can pull off an upset, who are the favorites to make a run, and who just might walk away with the walnut and bronze.

Hoopsville is presented by D3hoops.com and airs LIVE starting at 7:00 PM ET from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can watch the show here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2016-17/mar2 --- or via the simulcast on Facebook Live (http://www.facebook.com/Hoopsville). If you miss the show live, you can watch it On Demand or listen to the podcasts.

The show is jammed packed with guests, but Dave will also have time for your questions. Make sure to email them to hoopsville@d3hoops.com. You can also tweet them to us.

And please consider helping Hoopsville stay on the air like you might help your public television station. The annual fundraising campaign was extended a few days because we had only raised 52% of our goal. Click the following link for more information and to make a donation: Hoopsville Fundraising Page (https://igg.me/at/hoopsville-fundraiser-2017)

Guests scheduled (in order of appearance):
- Carl Danzig, Scranton men's coach
- Abby Pyzik Smith, Lynchburg women's coach
- Brad Fischer, No. 13 UW-Oshkosh women's coach
- Michael Blaine, Medialle men's coach
- Jeff Brown, No. 6 Middlbury men's coach
- Cameron Hill, No. 7 Trinity (Texas) women's coach

You can also tune into the podcast(s) after the show has aired:
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hoopsville/id1059517087

Don't forget you can always interact with us:
Website: www.d3hoopsville.com
Twitter: @d3hoopsville (http://www.twitter.com/d3hoopsville) or #Hoopsville
Facebook: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville
Email: hoopsville@d3hoops.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/d3hoopsville
Fundraiser: https://igg.me/at/hoopsville-fundraiser-2017

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Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: DanThomas on April 05, 2017, 08:38:05 PM
Hey everyone,
Don't know if anyone remembers me from years past but its Dan Thomas from (Australia). Was just writing to see how the league is going these days. Is there any chance of links to watch some of the conference games, especially between rivalries such as Behrend and Pitt. Must say I have had a nice read through these topics and good to know someone valued the efforts of us Student Athletes.

As for myself, I am currently playing professionally in Australia and before that was in Europe plying my trade, in Croatia, Denmark and Germany. Its been one heck of a ride from being a D3 Baller to then pushing myself to compete at a very high level in Europe. I hope all is well and look forward to many more chats about the current state of the AMCC.

Hopefully get a chance to get back and see some games one day, never know. Miss college ball tremendously at times.

Talk soon

Dan Thomas
(Perth, Australia)
UPB PG#34
2003-2007
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 05, 2017, 10:37:36 PM
Welcome to the board! What's pro ball in Australia like?
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: DanThomas on April 23, 2017, 10:25:27 PM
Pat,
Basketball is going great right now. Level isn't the same as NBA, clearly not, but very high quality and we get some very good Americans out here. We are allowed two per team. Feel free to follow on instagram and can always keep up to date with stuff going on down my way in Perth.

dt_from_the_fre

We are just in to the fresh season now and have lost some crucial players to retirement after winning our third championship. We are currently sitting in 6th overall and looking to push for a top four finish by seasons end to ensure home playoff births.

Hope all is well in the AMCC.

DT,
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Mike Rejniak on March 12, 2018, 11:28:44 AM
​Dear D3 Faithful ;D,
     I have read many of your posts throughout the years and even met some of you in person, but for those who I haven't met, let me introduce myself: my name is Michael Rejniak and I have spent over 14 years coaching Division 3 basketball and love what our division has done and continues to do for  the sport of basketball. One of the greatest things about Division 3 basketball is the brotherhood that we all have with one another (coaches and players alike). My wish is to showcase the talents of D3 on a national stage in The Basketball Tournament (TBT).  You may have heard me speak about this on the Hoopsville Marathon with Dave McHugh of D3hoops.com (at the 6:11 mark). The TBT is a national tournament that is televised in July/August on ESPN after the NBA season is over. My goal is to put forth an all-star D3 team (current players are ineligible) and have them compete in this tournament to take on Former D1 / semi-pro's to prove that D3 deserves the same respect as other NCAA divisions. The team is mostly complete with former student-athletes from all over the country competing. Once the roster is complete we will be sure to release it through d3hoops. Former Babson College National Champion Matthew Droney '17 will also be assisting me on this journey.

How YOU can help our former elite D3 basketball players

While the end prize of this tournament is a monetary prize, being a D3-lifer, the goal is not the money (we all know that's not why we get into coaching), the goal is to bring an end to the stigma of Division 3 basketball, an awareness of how talented our student-athletes are and that we can compete (and win) against the best. We do need to raise funds for an entry fee, travel, meal and housing expenses for the athletes. In order to do this, we are conducting a crowd-funding campaign through GoFundMe to help make this a reality. These athletes need your support! Just think -- if every Division 3 school donated just $10, we will have raised over $4,000!!!! The link to the GoFundMe Page is below and please SPREAD THE WORD and email me with any questions/concerns at WeAreD3TBT@gmail.com. Thank you in advance for your support and Dave and I look forward to this "D3 Dream Team" taking the court this summer.-Mike Rejniak

Support "We Are D3" In The TBT
https://www.gofundme.com/WeAreD3TBT (https://www.gofundme.com/WeAreD3TBT)
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 17, 2019, 05:08:40 PM
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It is now or never.

The last week of the Division III basketball regular season is here. Conferences will decide who will earn automatic bids to the NCAA Tournaments and teams try and position themselves for at-large bids, hosting opportunities, and bracketing considerations.

For teams who have been faltering, this is the last chance to right the ship. For programs which have underachieved, this is the last opportunity to live up to expectations. And of course for those with Cinderella dreams, this is the chance to try on the glass slipper.

Sunday's Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) will cover it all in a special, extended, episode which for the first time (outside of Marathon programming) will feature a guest from each of the eight regions. We will also discuss which teams may be on the bubble, who has most likely secured at-large bid, and which teams need to win the AQs. Plus, we talk about how regions as we know it now could very well change in the future.

Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. Sunday's show will hit the air at 6:00 p.m. ET. It can be watched live right here: http://bit.ly/2EeG5ZE (and simulcast on Facebook Live and Periscope).

If you have questions about Division III basketball, feel free to send them and we will answer them on a the show. Email them to dave.mchugh@d3sports.com or use any of the social media options below.

Guests Schedule (order subject to change):
- Katherine Bixby, Johns Hopkins women's coach
- Jonathan Crosthwaite, Occidental men's junior
- Marc Brown, NJCU men's coach
- Justin LeBlanc, Millsaps women's coach
- Jamie Seward, SUNY New Paltz women's coach
- Marcos Echevarria, No. 17 Nichols men's senior
- Herman Carmichael, La Roche men's coach
- Klay Knueppel, Wisconsin Luthern women's coach
- Brad Bankston, ODAC Commissioner
- Pat Coleman & Ryan Scott, D3hoops.com (Bubble Talk)

If you enjoy the show via the podcasts, choose your favorite avenue to listen and/or subscribe via the the following four avenues (click on the images when necessary):
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Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 20, 2019, 03:40:18 PM
The third public NCAA Division III regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: deiscanton on February 24, 2019, 05:51:44 PM
There was an extended delay at halftime of the AMCC women's title game due to a power outage at the  La Roche campus in Pittsburgh.  Men's title game now has a 6 PM Eastern tip time. 

La Roche ranked #5 in Great Lakes.
PSU Behrend is a declared ECAC bid candidate-- if the Lions win tonight, they are automatically withdrawn from ECAC consideration.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: deiscanton on February 25, 2019, 04:54:29 AM
Congrats to PSU Behrend on winning the AMCC AQ and not having to go to ECACs for the third year in a row.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: kiltedbryan on March 01, 2019, 10:07:40 PM
PSU Behrend 70
Hamilton 72

Behrend gave #10 Hamilton everything they could handle and more tonight. Behrend opened with an 8-0 lead and Hamilton was chasing the entire game until taking their first lead with under 2 minutes to go.

The final 30 seconds were a madhouse: Behrend had the ball down one and turned it over. Tim Doyle of Hamilton made two FTs to give them a 3 point lead. Behrend's inbounds play was thrown directly out-of-bounds, seemingly sealing it for Hamilton, but then they turned over the ensuing inbounds. Behrend had the ball back with 17 seconds left down 3, and Hamilton had fouls to give. Well, Tim Doyle practically tackled Andy Niland, earning an intentional foul. Niland, a 92% FT shooter, made 1-2. Behrend then missed two layups that would've tied the game in the final seconds for the heartbreaking loss.
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 15, 2019, 10:15:45 PM
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The 2019-20 season may end up seeing a lot of Division III coaches hit significant milestones throughout. On Sunday's Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave chats with three coaches who have already won milestone games this season.

Whether it's 500 or 600, the milestone is a sign of a coach who not only has been coaching a long time, but also successful at coaching. That is certainly the case for the three coaches on Sunday' show.

Plus, we look ahead at the final Top 25 polls before the holidays. Who might move up or down and which teams should either get more or less attention.

Hoopsville is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can watch Sunday's show On Demand in the following ways:
- Main page: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville
- Show page: http://bit.ly/2RWf5FE (or www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2019-20/dec15)
- Facebook Live Simulcast: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville
- YouTube Simulcast: www.youtube.com/d3hoopsville
- Team1 Sports: www.team1sports.com/Hoopsville/
- Team1 Sports app (https://team1sports.com/) (Android TV, Amazon Fire, Apple TV, Roku) - you will either find it under the "live" section or search for the Hoopsville channel

Guests Schedule (order subject to change):
- Grey Giovanine, Augustana men's head coach
- Dave Niland, PSU-Behrend men's head coach
- Mary Beth Spirk, Moravian women's head coach
- Ryan Scott, Top 25 Double-Take

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We also have the podcast now on Tune-In (https://tunein.com/podcasts/Sports--Recreation-Podcasts/Hoopsville-p1153539/) and others coming. We will update them once we have better abilities to do so.

Don't forget you can always interact with us:
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Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 12, 2020, 03:16:43 PM
First Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 19, 2020, 01:15:32 PM
Week 2's Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2020, 02:39:30 PM
The Week 3 men's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-third