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Re: MIAA
« Reply #4980 on: March 19, 2018, 11:46:18 am »
Thomas More was a good program before Hans and Moss arrived, but they weren't national title contenders like they are now.

Here's their last 10 post-season appearances with their final ranking noted in parentheses

2018: Lost to Amherst in Final Four (Poll not final, but I assume No. 3)
2017: Lost to Hope in 2nd round (11th)
2016: National Championship (1st)
2015: National Championship - Vacated (1st)
2014: Lost to Whitman in Elite 8 (Moss blew out her knee in that game) (4th)
-----Before Moss-----
2013: Lost to Carthage in first round (21st)
2012: Lost to Illinois Wesleyan in 2nd round (24th)
2011: Lost to Wash U in Elite 8 (6th)
2010: Lost to Wash U in 2nd round (15th)
2009: Lost to Hope in Sweet 16 (8th)

If you look at the season results, you'll see a lot of these tournament losses pre-Moss were at home and not competitive games. The 2009 Hope game was competitive, but the rest were double-digit wins for the opponent and some of them really lopsided (37 point win by IWU in 2012). There's no way someone is going into the Saints gym and beating them by double-digits in a walkover now. Hans has taken this program to another level.

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Re: MIAA
« Reply #4981 on: March 19, 2018, 11:54:27 am »
OMG, those NESCAC teams must be good.  Hope lost to Thomas More - Amherst beat them by 18.  Trine lost to Wartburg - Bowdoin beat them by 28!!

An all NESCAC title game.

Well, it was well known that Thomas More didn't have Sydney Moss again this year...  ::)
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HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
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Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
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Re: MIAA
« Reply #4982 on: March 19, 2018, 11:59:17 am »
Thomas More was a good program before Hans and Moss arrived, but they weren't national title contenders like they are now.

Here's their last 10 post-season appearances with their final ranking noted in parentheses

2018: Lost to Amherst in Final Four (Poll not final, but I assume No. 3)
2017: Lost to Hope in 2nd round (11th)
2016: National Championship (1st)
2015: National Championship - Vacated (1st)
2014: Lost to Whitman in Elite 8 (Moss blew out her knee in that game) (4th)
-----Before Moss-----
2013: Lost to Carthage in first round (21st)
2012: Lost to Illinois Wesleyan in 2nd round (24th)
2011: Lost to Wash U in Elite 8 (6th)
2010: Lost to Wash U in 2nd round (15th)
2009: Lost to Hope in Sweet 16 (8th)

If you look at the season results, you'll see a lot of these tournament losses pre-Moss were at home and not competitive games. The 2009 Hope game was competitive, but the rest were double-digit wins for the opponent and some of them really lopsided (37 point win by IWU in 2012). There's no way someone is going into the Saints gym and beating them by double-digits in a walkover now. Hans has taken this program to another level.

So my wording could be better.  To be fair, this run with Hans has coincided with an added emphasis on athletics at the school. 

The difference in those two time periods is the two national titles... Yes, I still say TWO, Dave..  :-*

My original point is they haven't taken a step back the last two years following SM's graduation. 
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HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
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Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

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Re: MIAA
« Reply #4983 on: March 19, 2018, 12:02:30 pm »
Yes, totally agree with that.

And they won't next year either -- Madison Temple is one of the best players in Division III basketball. They will be a force again next year.

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Re: MIAA
« Reply #4984 on: March 19, 2018, 12:12:55 pm »
Yes, totally agree with that.

And they won't next year either -- Madison Temple is one of the best players in Division III basketball. They will be a force again next year.

Yessir.  I agree.  They had so many underclassman learning roles on the fly this year..
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HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
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Re: MIAA
« Reply #4985 on: March 19, 2018, 08:38:13 pm »
Speaking of next year, I'm already looking forward to a Hope squad that may well be stronger yet next year.  6' All American Frankie Buchanan will be back and the starting guards will no longer be freshmen.  Reserve 6'3" Olivia Voskuil played a lot of key minutes down the stretch and the sky is the limit for her as indicated by her 6 pts, 7 rebs, 6 blocks vs CNU.  6'2" Ashleigh Thomas also was part of a strong 2nd unit that logged lots of minutes.  Looks like a strong recruiting class coming in again too. 

Hope was loaded with freshmen that started or played key roles this year.  In my experience, the summer between freshman and sophomore years is when the women make the greatest offseason improvement.  Finding time and places to play during the summer seems to be key.  If the Hope women manage that, watch out!

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Re: MIAA
« Reply #4986 on: March 19, 2018, 09:18:14 pm »
Speaking of next year, I'm already looking forward to a Hope squad that may well be stronger yet next year.  6' All American Frankie Buchanan will be back and the starting guards will no longer be freshmen.  Reserve 6'3" Olivia Voskuil played a lot of key minutes down the stretch and the sky is the limit for her as indicated by her 6 pts, 7 rebs, 6 blocks vs CNU.  6'2" Ashleigh Thomas also was part of a strong 2nd unit that logged lots of minutes.  Looks like a strong recruiting class coming in again too. 

Hope was loaded with freshmen that started or played key roles this year.  In my experience, the summer between freshman and sophomore years is when the women make the greatest offseason improvement.  Finding time and places to play during the summer seems to be key.  If the Hope women manage that, watch out!
If memory serves, Ashleigh Thomas actually spent most of the season as part of the third unit. Says a lot for Hope since there are many teams she would've started for.

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Re: MIAA
« Reply #4987 on: March 20, 2018, 02:11:49 pm »
Speaking of next year, I'm already looking forward to a Hope squad that may well be stronger yet next year.  6' All American Frankie Buchanan will be back and the starting guards will no longer be freshmen.  Reserve 6'3" Olivia Voskuil played a lot of key minutes down the stretch and the sky is the limit for her as indicated by her 6 pts, 7 rebs, 6 blocks vs CNU.  6'2" Ashleigh Thomas also was part of a strong 2nd unit that logged lots of minutes.  Looks like a strong recruiting class coming in again too. 

Hope was loaded with freshmen that started or played key roles this year.  In my experience, the summer between freshman and sophomore years is when the women make the greatest offseason improvement.  Finding time and places to play during the summer seems to be key.  If the Hope women manage that, watch out!
If memory serves, Ashleigh Thomas actually spent most of the season as part of the third unit. Says a lot for Hope since there are many teams she would've started for.
Another one that didn't see a lot of minutes was 6' Jess Moorman. She was overly aggressive at times but has a nose for the ball on defense and made a few key steals. And she made a few slick passes for assists when the opportunity arose.

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Re: MIAA
« Reply #4988 on: March 21, 2018, 06:22:24 pm »
Updated list. Thanks TUAngola and pointlem for the additional info.
NameTeamHeightHigh SchoolHome Town
Alexis SillmanAdiran5-7St. JohnsSt. Johns, MI
Bailey MruzikAdrian5-7CarlsonGibraltar, MI
Katy ShannonAdrian5-6Lansing CatholicLansing, MI
Skylar BaerAdrian5-10LakelandWhite Lake, MI
Taylor BesgroveAdrian5-5Cardinal StritchMillbury, OH
Malynn KosnikAlbion5-9Utica EisenhowerShelby Township, MI
Abbie CooleyCalvin5-7Castle ViewCastle Rock, CO
Alaina HeitmeyerCalvin5-7CantonCanton, MI
Sophia PierceCalvin5-5LeoFort Wayne, IN
Arinn KingHope5-5HudsonvilleHudsonville, MI
Hannah SmithHope5-11MidlandMidland, MI
Kasey DeSmitHope5-7HudsonvilleHudsonville, MI
Taylor VinesHope6-0HollyHolly, MI
Hannah MilliganTrine6-0Lutheran NorthMacomb, MI
Julia PateTrine5-10CastleNewburgh, IN
Kayla WildmanTrine5-10RockfordRockford, MI
Kaylee ArgyleTrine5-4FreelandFreeland, MI
Kortney HelmTrine5-11DeltaMuncie, IN
Natalee KunseTrine5-9ClareClare, MI
Rachel StewartTrine5-8EasternNew Perkin, IN
Sophia KreagTrine5-8WestfieldCarmel, IN
Tara BienicwiczTrine6-0DakotaMacomb, MI

2 more recent Trine commits:

Macee Strycker         Trine        5-7         Argos HS             Argos, IN
Kelsy Taylor             Trine        6-2         New Albany HS     New Albany, IN

That's 11 recruits so far on the list, I'm sure there are other recruits not known about.  Not sure how many of them will be on Varsity next year, we do graduate 5 from this year's roster.  Honestly I don't know too much about any of the Trine recruits as none are from northeastern Indiana.  I do like we are getting 3 Southern Indiana gals.  Rachel Stewart's team won the State Championship for class 1A in 2017 during her Jr year and went 20-4 this year.  Julia Pate's team went 23-1 this year and lost in the Regional.  Kelsy Taylor is a good athlete, and will also throw the shot and discus for the Trine track team.

If you Michigan posters know the basketball backgrounds of any of the Michigan HS players that will be attending Trine, I'd love to hear.



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Re: MIAA
« Reply #4991 on: April 16, 2018, 09:09:11 pm »
With Hope's two freshmen starting guards returning from this year's team, this will strengthen the position even more:

http://highschoolsports.mlive.com/news/article/3625489847704602881/advance-all-area-girls-basketball-team-west/


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Re: MIAA
« Reply #4992 on: April 16, 2018, 09:32:25 pm »
With Hope's two freshmen starting guards returning from this year's team, this will strengthen the position even more:

http://highschoolsports.mlive.com/news/article/3625489847704602881/advance-all-area-girls-basketball-team-west/

Gotta admire the self-confidence of a player who will come to a school with TWO FRESHMAN starters at her position!

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Re: MIAA
« Reply #4993 on: April 17, 2018, 11:08:02 am »
With Hope's two freshmen starting guards returning from this year's team, this will strengthen the position even more:

http://highschoolsports.mlive.com/news/article/3625489847704602881/advance-all-area-girls-basketball-team-west/

Gotta admire the self-confidence of a player who will come to a school with TWO FRESHMAN starters at her position!

Yes, but you have to look at the number of players who are part of the Hope rotation every year.  Hope had 10 players this past season who averaged over 10 minutes per game, plus 2 more at 9.9 and 9.8 minutes.  Some of that is due to margin of victory, but the majority of it is due to the depth of the squad.
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« Reply #4994 on: April 17, 2018, 11:42:43 am »
At the D3 level I'm hoping her decision was more about academic programs, campus life and so on vs. the WBB roster.