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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Last post by AndOne on Today at 04:27:22 pm »
OK. So Francis is more than one dimensional. Maybe it just seems so because you see him shoot so many times a game, it overshadows everything else he might do.
So who is the MOP, Francis or Rose? 
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Great Lakes Region / Re: MIAA pick 'em
« Last post by FCGrizzliesGrad on Today at 04:23:57 pm »
Final Standings.  Congratulations to Fifth & Putnam our champion!!!!  2nd straight year a "non" MIAA fan has won - starting to think it might help you be more objective in your picks :)
Honestly, I don't think anything would have helped much this year with how unpredictable it was. Fifth won this year but that performance would have missed the top 10 last season ??? If you had just chosen all home teams you would have been 35-21 which only 5 people did better than.

2016-17:
Player PointsWinsLosses  Percentage
FCGrizzliesGrad 1154313  0.768
maroonandgold 1134214  0.75
Flying Dutch Fan 1114016  0.714
Civic Minded 1104115  0.732
calalum 1094210  0.808
HupHolland 1073913  0.75
KnightSlappy 1054115  0.732
Fifth and Putnam 1053814  0.731
realist 1043719  0.661
oldknight 1034016  0.714
TUAngola 1013818  0.679
GreatScot!? 993814  0.731
tyrone 983814  0.731
HOPEful 973418  0.654
sflzman 933414  0.708
hope1 933311  0.75
devossed 913411  0.756
Hope22 873212  0.727
FyteOnne 853521  0.625
GoBrits 823022  0.577
Winifred Durfee 52200.714
monsoon 50190.679
knightvision 1340.5
Kellogg Center 520.5
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On the topic of a CCIW HOF, Mel Peterson certainly belongs in the Wheaton College HOF, but I am fairly certain that the years he played at Wheaton were years that WC had dropped out of the CCIW, so perhaps he would not technically be eligible for their HOF.

You have not seen my name here before. I am a Wheaton grad, around the age of Joe Hakes (sorry to hear about your medical situation and hope the healing continues Joe.  We sometimes played in the same neighborhoods back in the 60's).  My son played for Wheaton 2000-2003. And my dad was HTA, which will mean something to Wheaton folks.  I still follow the league, and am delighted about the quality of live streaming of the games; and I occasionally check in to the forum. And my user name refers to my weight, one that I used to laugh about ever reaching, that now I look at in the rearview mirror, at least in the winter.
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I suspect that Francis is still a heavy favorite for MOP

I think pretty good chance it is a co-MOP.

I donít think the contest should be that tight. Francis is a great scorer, but often times it seems the more he shoots the less chance his team has of winning because other capable players with better open looks never get the pass that enables them to take that open shot. He had made 79 three pointers in conference, but there are 14 players who shoot a better 3 point percentage than Francis including a guy on his own team that, at least before last nightís game, was leading the nation in 3 point percentage. Plus, his head coach has publicly called him out on radio interview shows for playing matador defense and basically waiving as his man goes by him on the way to the basket.
Nope, Alex Sorenson should be the MOP.

Shocker... If not Francis, Brady Rose is the MOP.

Hard to imagine that any player in the country gets the kind of attention Francis does from opposing teams. Averaging over 30 PPG in conference. All three (Francis, Rose, Sorenson) are stars, but Francis sort of stands out from the pack in my eyes.

Francis should stand out. Heís a fantastic talent. Iíve never seen anyone at the D3 level who can so seemingly effortlessly make shots from as far away as he does. He is a standout performer. However, as spectacular as he often is, heís also pretty one-dimensional. Rose and Sorenson are both more complete players. Rose is the preeminent back court player in the conference, and Sorenson is itís dominant big.

"One-dimensional"? Good grief, Mark.

* Francis is sixth in the league in rebounding at 6.0 rpg. No other guard is ranked in the top ten.
* Francis is sixth in assists at 3.87 apg.
* Francis is tied for fifth in the league in FT% at .833. That's in spite of the fact that he's attempted an astronomical 120 free throws, which averages out to eight per game, and nobody else in the league is close to that number of attempts.
* Francis is third in the league in steals at 1.47 spg.
* Francis is tenth in the league in a:to, which is astonishing when you consider his shooting volume and the fact that he's Wheaton's bailout guy.

Was last night's game the only time that you've seen Aston Francis play this season? Because it sure seems like it, based upon what you've posted.
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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Last post by WUPHF on Today at 04:16:12 pm »
And again, if you play basketball in the CCIW and tweet out that you like the Backstreet Boys, opposing students are going to sing "I Want it that Way" when you get the ball.  Watch your social media!

Tell me why, ain't nothing but a heartache!

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Last post by AndOne on Today at 04:14:14 pm »
And thatís the thing, Bob. Iím not talking just about easily available social media stuff.
Last night the comments involved girlfriends, family members, peoples physical features etc. There is no way many of the comments didnít cross the line in the same manner as the examples in your post.

And, unfortunately, I am sure I would have done the same in the front row of Fred Young Fieldhouse had I had access to the information. I actually brought a word processor to campus in August of 1989...so safe to say, no internet/social media.  Had I known who Marc Horner's girlfriend was, I would have definitely seen if that info leveraged during the right moment made him miss a FT.

I don't think the Wheaton kids are trying to cross the line or hurt anyone, but it is up to administrators to draw a line somewhere reasonable...and force them to self-police and be accountable.

And again, if you play basketball in the CCIW and tweet out that you like the Backstreet Boys, opposing students are going to sing "I Want it that Way" when you get the ball.  Watch your social media!

🤔 Then the responsible Wheaton administrators arenít doing a very good job in this regard.
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No easy weekends in the SCIAC...

Cal Lu and Chapman both started SCIAC play poorly by  losing 2 out if 3. What's up ?
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Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Last post by sac on Today at 04:03:57 pm »
Fwiw
Mitchell is 81-29  .736 win % overall,  46-10  .821 win % in conference with 2 outright championships and a co-championship.

I'm happy having a coach who's 24-26 overall and 15-13 in conference with a co championship. I cannot imangine what it's like to have a record like Mitchell and the jury to still be out.
Greg Mitchell has a good record.  I think the comment of the jury being out is in reference to the fact he is still coaching the recruits of coaches Neil and Hargraves.  In a couple years weíll see how successful his own homegrown program is.

Dreyer and Hawkins are the last two Neil recruits in the program, he's coached them both all 4 years they've attended Hope.
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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Last post by Kovo on Today at 03:54:38 pm »
And thatís the thing, Bob. Iím not talking just about easily available social media stuff.
Last night the comments involved girlfriends, family members, peoples physical features etc. There is no way many of the comments didnít cross the line in the same manner as the examples in your post.

And, unfortunately, I am sure I would have done the same in the front row of Fred Young Fieldhouse had I had access to the information. I actually brought a word processor to campus in August of 1989...so safe to say, no internet/social media.  Had I known who Marc Horner's girlfriend was, I would have definitely seen if that info leveraged during the right moment made him miss a FT.

I don't think the Wheaton kids are trying to cross the line or hurt anyone, but it is up to administrators to draw a line somewhere reasonable...and force them to self-police and be accountable.

And again, if you play basketball in the CCIW and tweet out that you like the Backstreet Boys, opposing students are going to sing "I Want it that Way" when you get the ball.  Watch your social media!

Pretty tone deaf by Wheaton considering everything.
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Wheaton student section "taunting profiles" for last night's game vs NCC...

https://twitter.com/AlexSCOREnson/status/965077257558675456

Wow.  Not exactly something to make the Wheaton community proud.  Organized taunting using family members names and other personal information?  How about cheering on your team in a positive manner?  Oh, I almost forgot.........



* Rykenís Rowdies - Does the President of Christ centered Wheaton College really condone the actions of this group of buffoons? A better name for the group would be the Goon Squad. And the President lends his name to this crap?

* Bottom left corner of the ďScouting Report.Ē Itís North Central so ANYTHING goes. Really? ANYTHING GOES?  ???

* Making fun, or trying to, of guys names, talking about ex-girlfriends, mentioning players parents and sisters names? Iím sure this has something to do with a basketball game, I just canít figure out what that is.

* Screaming (the obvious) ďdaddyís boyĒ at Connor, yelling ďI see your bald spotĒ at the coach, and signs like ďAiden Chang combs his eyebrows.Ē You need to come at us with more than that very weak sót boys. By the way, the guy who combs his eyebrows just hung 20 on your asses.  ;)

* As far as your frequent chants of ďNorth Central sucks,Ē check the box score boys. I think youíll see the (not very loud) Thunder
got a 17 point beatdown. Who sucks now? Seems like the only ones doing the sucking today are dressed in orange.  ;D

And if this was the NCC football teams cheat sheet no one would be saying a word. This is a non issue in my view. I have heard stuff from other teams fans, NCC included, that make this sheet look like a hymnal. I donít get the issue.

Agree USee, seen and heard much worse over the years.  And who are you talking smack to, AO?  Doubt that any of the students involved are posting on this board and I don't think that Usee, duckfan, etc had anything to do with putting together that sheet.  ???

Ha!
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