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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 28, 2017, 07:11:24 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 27, 2017, 11:44:35 PM
So are we talking 2008-2017?

That's my understanding.  The last team included a few players who graduated in 2007.  Oddly enough, the 2007 POY was junior, Ben Strong, so I don't think he was eligible.

Yes, Taryn Mellody of Scranton made the women's team and graduated in 2007.

Greek Tragedy

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 28, 2017, 07:11:24 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 27, 2017, 11:44:35 PM
So are we talking 2008-2017?

That's my understanding.  The last team included a few players who graduated in 2007.  Oddly enough, the 2007 POY was junior, Ben Strong, so I don't think he was eligible.

So his senior year had to be 2007? That's odd that 3 of his years are within the "decade" but he wasn't eligible. Anyway, he's a shoe-in for the next list!
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 24, 2018, 03:12:55 PM
Seventeen days earlier this year! Whoo-hoo!

The timing this year has me completely confused LOL

Still think I have a little time before getting Hoopsville on the air. Nope. Nope. Nope.
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Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 24, 2018, 12:26:18 PM
Preseason All-America selections for 2018-19 are up: http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2019

Ah yes, a tough snub for the UAA.

Missed Andrew Sanders (WashU) in the Preseason picks last year, then he proceeded to have a monster season and made 1st team All-American. All though Adam Gigax (Emory) was a Preseason pick last year he ultimately did not have the numbers & consistency of his junior year to make a case.

I'm sure Romin Williams (Emory), Jack Nolan (WashU), and Ryan Clamage (Rochester) will certainly make their cases as this season goes on. I'm hoping all three teams can find a way to make the tournament and at least one can make a deep run to Salem. Then maybe, just maybe, D3Hoops might show the UAA a little love.

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It's amusing that you think that the UAA doesn't get any "love" -- whatever defines that. But we looked really closely to make sure we weren't ignoring a worthy UAA player and Nolan is a tough sell as a sophomore. You basically have to be the national rookie of the year to get a sniff at preseason All-American the very next year.
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Quote from: uaaaficionado on October 24, 2018, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 24, 2018, 12:26:18 PM
Preseason All-America selections for 2018-19 are up: http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2019

Ah yes, a tough snub for the UAA.

Missed Andrew Sanders (WashU) in the Preseason picks last year, then he proceeded to have a monster season and made 1st team All-American. All though Adam Gigax (Emory) was a Preseason pick last year he ultimately did not have the numbers & consistency of his junior year to make a case.

I'm sure Romin Williams (Emory), Jack Nolan (WashU), and Ryan Clamage (Rochester) will certainly make their cases as this season goes on. I'm hoping all three teams can find a way to make the tournament and at least one can make a deep run to Salem. Then maybe, just maybe, D3Hoops might show the UAA a little love.

I would argue a lot of people missed Sander's contributions before he started his senior year. He had a terrific year. And BTW, there are a lot of players who "play themselves onto" the post-season All-America list. It happens every year. Sanders is not an exception, though rise to first-team was certainly a stellar move.

Couple of factors made things difficult for UAA "love" this season: there are a TON of pretty good guards in Division III currently and most of them are seniors. That makes for not a lot of space on the All-America team(s). Thus, forwards are not as plentiful to pick from and some do rise further up (for anyone trying to compare why a guard missed it compared to a forward). I'll add, I think we will see a number of forwards emerge this year ... but since they were behind a lot of great forwards who have graduated the last two years, it is hard to gauge that potential on limited data.

I think the choices from Emory and Rochester have the distinct disadvantage being in that list of guards where there just isn't any room. Hard to find space over the guards currently listed.

We considered Nolan, for example. As Pat indicated, it's hard for a rising sophomore to make this list. Once in a while I am sure it has happened and I know there was one I was considering hard this summer (until I realized he had transferred to a DII program). Nolan was seriously considered, but ultimately we felt he could be one of those guys that could play onto the team.

Also, if they make a deep run to Salem... they are either on the wrong team or ... they aren't All-America worthy outside of the ODAC teams. :)
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Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 24, 2018, 03:50:21 PM

Also, if they make a deep run to Salem... they are either on the wrong team or ... they aren't All-America worthy outside of the ODAC teams. :)


Plenty of great points you make..

And you sure got me with this one - I'm sure they'll see you in Ft. Wayne  8-)

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Quote from: uaaaficionado on October 24, 2018, 04:08:15 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 24, 2018, 03:50:21 PM

Also, if they make a deep run to Salem... they are either on the wrong team or ... they aren't All-America worthy outside of the ODAC teams. :)


Plenty of great points you make..

And you sure got me with this one - I'm sure they'll see you in Ft. Wayne  8-)

I figured everyone would get a chuckle. It is taking me awhile to shift my mindset as well ... especially since Salem (Roanoke College) is hosting women. It is a little more confusing. LOL
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This is nitpicking, but I would argue that Andrew Sanders should have been clearly on the radar of the voters based on his sophomore campaign and his leadership towards the 2016-2017 UAA title; a season in whichever everyone adored Rochester.

But yeah, those early tourney exits...those early tourney exits...

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Top Players Left off the list...

Edvinas Ruckus - Skidmore
Brady Rose - IWU
Vinny Curta - Grinnell
Romin Williams - Emory
Jalen Adams - Olivet


Who else?


Greek Tragedy

Jalen Adams graduated.

Not sure if Vinny Curta will get the respect tossing up big numbers for Grinnell.

I considered Rupkus.

I took Brady Rose in the pool.

I also took Romin Williams. Tough to make it as a sophomore. Plus, as Pat (?) said, lots of guards.
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