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HOPEful

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Quote from: Fifth and Putnam on November 18, 2017, 09:42:14 AM
Hope will host the 2018 Great Lakes Invitational.

http://athletics.hope.edu/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20171118e8gbkg
One of these schools is not like the others...

Also, why'd it go from 8 teams to 5? Are they still planning on adding teams? And how does Ohio factor in to the mix?
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Flying Dutch Fan

Quote from: HOPEful on November 30, 2017, 08:38:01 AM
Quote from: Fifth and Putnam on November 18, 2017, 09:42:14 AM
Hope will host the 2018 Great Lakes Invitational.

http://athletics.hope.edu/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20171118e8gbkg
One of these schools is not like the others...

Also, why'd it go from 8 teams to 5? Are they still planning on adding teams? And how does Ohio factor in to the mix?

It's 4 teams not 5 - but it is a bit confusing the way it's written:

The 2018 field will include Hope College, Calvin College, Mount St. Joseph, Ohio University, and LaRoche, Pennsylvania College.

which I believe is this:

The 2018 field will include:

Hope College
Calvin College
Mount St. Joseph, Ohio University
LaRoche, Pennsylvania College.
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Fifth and Putnam

Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on November 30, 2017, 08:54:01 AM
Quote from: HOPEful on November 30, 2017, 08:38:01 AM
Quote from: Fifth and Putnam on November 18, 2017, 09:42:14 AM
Hope will host the 2018 Great Lakes Invitational.

http://athletics.hope.edu/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20171118e8gbkg
One of these schools is not like the others...

Also, why'd it go from 8 teams to 5? Are they still planning on adding teams? And how does Ohio factor in to the mix?

It's 4 teams not 5 - but it is a bit confusing the way it's written:

The 2018 field will include Hope College, Calvin College, Mount St. Joseph, Ohio University, and LaRoche, Pennsylvania College.

which I believe is this:

The 2018 field will include:

Hope College
Calvin College
Mount St. Joseph, Ohio University
LaRoche, Pennsylvania College.

I'm not sure why Ohio University or Pennsylvania College was added to the release...it's just Hope, Calvin, MSJ, and La Roche.

ziggy

Looks like an attempt to note that MSJ is in Ohio and LaRoche is in Pennsylvania gone horribly wrong.

KnightSlappy

Quote from: ziggy on November 30, 2017, 09:39:12 AM
Looks like an attempt to note that MSJ is in Ohio and LaRoche is in Pennsylvania gone horribly wrong.

Yeah. Mount St. Joseph University, Ohio and LaRoche College, Pennsylvania.

HOPEful

Quote from: ziggy on November 30, 2017, 09:39:12 AM
Looks like an attempt to note that MSJ is in Ohio and LaRoche is in Pennsylvania gone horribly wrong.
Ah, that make much more sense. I was perplexed by what the Bobcats would get out of such an appearance.

I'm a little disappointed though that it dropped from 8 teams down to 4. It's nice to see Mt. St. Joe and LaRoche coming to Holland, but it's basically just the Russ DeVette Classic with a different name, no?
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KnightSlappy

LaRoche was 1-24 in 2015 and 20-8 in 2017. So kinda difficult to predict how they'll look on the schedule for Hope and Calvin next year.

Fifth and Putnam

Quote from: HOPEful on November 30, 2017, 09:57:14 AM
Quote from: ziggy on November 30, 2017, 09:39:12 AM
Looks like an attempt to note that MSJ is in Ohio and LaRoche is in Pennsylvania gone horribly wrong.
Ah, that make much more sense. I was perplexed by what the Bobcats would get out of such an appearance.

I'm a little disappointed though that it dropped from 8 teams down to 4. It's nice to see Mt. St. Joe and LaRoche coming to Holland, but it's basically just the Russ DeVette Classic with a different name, no?

As with any event, there are some challenges to overcome when trying to put together an event like this. Hope of course has a women's tip off tournament the opening weekend of the year and weekend #2 is the Grand Rapids event with Calvin, Cornerstone, and Aquinas. Most conferences start up conference play weekend #3...so we got brought into December. The effort was made to have an 8 team event at Hope..but with some conferences still playing conference games the 19th (OAC) and a lot of schools having no competition rules during finals week (some schools are having finals that week, some are finished) we arrived at the 4 teams we did.

Fifth and Putnam

Quote from: KnightSlappy on November 30, 2017, 10:03:12 AM
LaRoche was 1-24 in 2015 and 20-8 in 2017. So kinda difficult to predict how they'll look on the schedule for Hope and Calvin next year.

Unless La Roche has some unusual roster turnover between this year and next...I feel pretty good about La Roche heading into next year.

sac

#2140
Great Lakes--Conference leaders/Pool C picture  (6 losses and under is "ok", 7 and we're getting sketchy as a Pool C, I used 7 as a cutoff this week)


Record--team--W%/SOS--Games remaining against other leaders or PoolC's in parenthesis

I don't think we're to a point where we can "lock" anyone in, (next week probably),  Red=  SOS to low to warrant a Pool C slot or overall record below the .700 line  ie currently out of position for a C

AMCC
16-3  PSU-Behrend   .842/.446
14-5  LaRoche           .737/.469
12-7  Medaille            .632/.456
12-7  PSU-Altoona     .632/.468


HCAC
13-4  Hanover       .765/.489
13-6  Mt. St. Joseph   .684/.514
13-6  Transylvania     .684/.531
11-7  Rose-Hulman    .611/.486


MIAA
12-5  Adrian  .706/.442
9-7   Hope  .563/.569
10-6  Olivet  .625/505



NCAC
18-0  Wittenberg   1.000/.516
15-4  Wooster          .789/578
14-5  Ohio Wesleyan  .737/.543
12-7  Hiram                 .632/.568


OAC
15-4  Marietta        .789/.575
15-4  John Carroll   .789/.543
14-5  Baldwin Wallace  .737/.552
13-6  Ohio Northern  .684/550


PAC
14-4  Thomas More         .778/.458
13-4  Westminster         .765/.469
12-6  St. Vincent             .667/.500




Looking at it this way, ranking 9 teams is going to be kind of interesting.  I'd take the 6 teams not in red and Ohio Northern, after that maybe 2 HCAC teams?

I figure Wittenberg needs one more win to be a "lock".  They can still lose 7 and that SOS is pretty shakey with 7 losses.  So I'll hold off there.

pennstghs

Thanks for the information - I think Wittenberg having their last 3 games vs Ohio Wesleyan/Hiram/Wooster and most likely 2 of the 3 in the conference tournament will increase their strength of schedule and at most they may end up with 3 losses.
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fantastic50

Here's what I've got at the moment (more info at http://www.fantastic50.net/d3h_men.html).

1) Wittenberg (18-0, 12-0 NCAC, 1.000 WP, 0.517 SOS)
2) Wooster (15-4, 9-3 NCAC, 0.789 WP, 0.578 SOS)
3) Marietta (15-4, 9-3 OAC, 0.789 WP, 0.575 SOS)
4) John Carroll (15-4, 9-3 OAC, 0.789 WP, 0.543 SOS)
5) Baldwin Wallace (14-5, 8-4 OAC, 0.737 WP, 0.552 SOS)
6) Ohio Wesleyan (14-5, 9-3 NCAC, 0.737 WP, 0.542 SOS)
7) Ohio Northern (13-6, 8-4 OAC, 0.684 WP, 0.548 SOS)
8) Transylvania (13-6, 8-4 HCAC, 0.684 WP, 0.532 SOS)
9) Mount St. Joseph (13-6, 10-2 HCAC, 0.684 WP, 0.512 SOS)
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10) Hanover (13-4, 10-2 HCAC, 0.765 WP, 0.489 SOS)
11) Hiram (12-7, 8-4 NCAC, 0.632 WP, 0.568 SOS)
12) St. Vincent (12-6, 10-2 PAC, 0.667 WP, 0.499 SOS)

Fifth and Putnam

I look forward to all the Pool C discussion coming up over the next several weeks. February is nearly here. Thanks for all the information guys.

Onward on, John Carroll

Quote from: Fifth and Putnam on January 28, 2018, 09:39:04 PM
I look forward to all the Pool C discussion coming up over the next several weeks. February is nearly here. Thanks for all the information guys.

Teams and Poll C debates usually start to sort themselves out as February comes and goes but, at this point, I agree, the Great Lakes supporters will be able to have some passionate discussions.