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Title: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: admin on August 16, 2005, 05:14:23 AM
This is the new home of ACFC discussion. Welcome aboard, everyone.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 16, 2005, 08:18:56 AM
This looks great!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 16, 2005, 09:55:00 AM
The "New Look" Post Patterns looks good.  Can't wait to see the Gulls this year.  I'm glad that CNU is back, and I'm looking for a little "payback" after the heartbreaking loss to the Captains in last years first round NCAA game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on August 16, 2005, 12:47:12 PM
does anyone have any predictions on how the ACFC will turn out.

Predicted Finish

1. wesley
2. salisbury
3. brockport
4. buffalo state
5. frostburg
6. newport news

I think wesley is definitly the sleeper team this year with 18 returning starters. Can't wait for the wesley-salisbury game. Good luck to both teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 16, 2005, 01:12:13 PM
Theone:

I believe the ACFC pre-season poll has Salisbury on top.  I agree, it should be a good game between the Gulls and Wolverines.  This year, Wesley has to travel to Salisbury for the game, so home field, may help Salisbury.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on August 16, 2005, 06:33:53 PM
wesley deosn not have to travel to salisbury this year. Salisbury has to travel to them and its Wesley's homecoming. I definitly have to give the edge to the wolverines. I think the Gulls lost too many key players in crucial positions on defense.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 17, 2005, 09:18:20 AM
I stand corrected, Salisbury goes to Dover, but it dosen't change the preseason ACFC poll that ranked the Sea Gulls ahead of the Wolverines.

Salisbury have seven returning defesive starters led by All-American DB Byron Westbrook and DT Andrew Fleming.  I think Wesley will have a harder time replacing Rocky Myers talent and leadership.

The Gulls in a close one!                 ;D

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ranger99 on August 17, 2005, 04:05:27 PM
My predictions are as follows:

1. Brockport St. (lost 3 games by TD or less, best defensive game planner in Rocco)
2. Salisburg (played over there heads last yr, losing DeHaven will hurt defense)
3.-T Buffalo St. (starting to finally turn that program around)
3.-T Wesley (a tough out, with experience)
5. Newport News (atheltic potential start to translate to Ws)
6. Frostburg (It's a nice drive out there)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on August 17, 2005, 08:45:24 PM
1. Salisbury
2. Wesley
3. Brockport
4. Buffalo State
5. Frostburg
6. Newport News

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on August 17, 2005, 10:21:20 PM
wesley also has an all american at rb in Kevin Nelson. I will admit, replacing Rocky Myers will be hard but he was not the whole defense. Brian Sorenson and Anthony Johnson will lead the defense. One of the most underrated defensive backs in the conference is also returning in wesley's defensive backfield...MARIO HARRIS. Very explaosive player. The offense will be very explosive with Nelson in the backfield, Chris Warrick at QB and Jon Lanouette and Curtis Gore at reciever. Gore led the nation in PR 2 years ago and teams were afraid to kick to him last year. He is another dangerous under rated player who doenst get the credit he deserves. I think this is wesley's year.!!!

Wesley 31
Salisbury 24

It is also wesley's homecoming. That should be a HUGE ADVANTAGE.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: zonescantstopme on August 18, 2005, 12:41:37 PM
Im really on this site for the bball postings because i play D3.  But I had to get into the salisbury/wesley argument.  I know players on both teams and I've seem them both play.  I give the edge this year to wesley and not just because my cousin plays there,  Salisbury lost a lot of key guys and the recruiting class wasnt as strong as wesley's.  Watch out for a Fr. DB from Broadneck High Tyrone Johnson he is going to turn heads.

1.  Wesley
2.  Salisbury
3.  Buff State
4.  Brockport
5.  Frostburg State
6.  Newport News
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: zonescantstopme on August 18, 2005, 12:43:52 PM
Salisbury also has had a few pre season injuries.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 18, 2005, 01:42:31 PM
Don't hold back.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on August 18, 2005, 05:25:58 PM
Here is my pre-season poll:

1. Salisbury
2. Brockport
3. Wesley
4. Buff St
5. Frostburg
6. Apprentice

Salisbury has just done a better job of recruiting and developing players than anyone in the conference. They are outworking everyone on the recruiting trail and getting better kids, with below average football facilities. Also, they still have Dustin Johnson. He is one of the top option QB's in all of D3. Brockport has fallen a little over the past couple years, but they will continue to play good football as long a Rocco is still there. Wesley does a great job of retaining athletes, some of which were not particularly strong students in high school. Drass does a great job each year of putting points on the board and they always have speed. Buff St plays physical football, but just needs to get some more speed and all around athletes. But, I believe that they will continue to improve. Frostburg continues to get worse and worse every year. This is a shame for good players and kids like Chris Lentz and Kevin Culbert. They have not been able to retain athletes or out recruit Salisbury, McDaniel, Hopkins, etc. in Maryland. Hopefully, with the upgrade in facilities (improvements in the weight and locker rooms; lights on the game field; and field turf) within the next 2 years, this will help them contend. Apprentice plays hard, but just does not have the time or organization to compete with the upper half of D3. I really respect what they stand for and the commitment that they show, but winning football games is not the Apprentice schools main priority. Please feel free to give me feedback on my take of these schools. I would love to hear any opinions!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: slate on August 18, 2005, 07:10:04 PM
Quote from: Ranger99 on August 17, 2005, 04:05:27 PM
My predictions are as follows:

1. Brockport St. (lost 3 games by TD or less, best defensive game planner in Rocco)
2. Salisburg (played over there heads last yr, losing DeHaven will hurt defense)
3.-T Buffalo St. (starting to finally turn that program around)
3.-T Wesley (a tough out, with experience)
5. Newport News (atheltic potential start to translate to Ws)
6. Frostburg (It's a nice drive out there)

I agree with you totally..
Title: lagrange football
Post by: classof06 on August 18, 2005, 07:30:10 PM
anyone know anything about lagrange college and there team which is suppose to play there first game in 2006??
Title: Re: lagrange football
Post by: narch on August 18, 2005, 10:53:47 PM
don't know much about the fb team, but they usually have solid athletic programs...overall, the conference they play in (for sports other than football) isn't up to par with other south region conferences, and being an independent (at least initially) might make recruiting difficult - it will probably take them 3-5 years to be a team that can compete with the bottom 1/2 of a conference like the usasac - i understand they're pretty committed to fb, though - one of the mc assistants was a finalist for the lagrange hc job and was impressed with the school
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on August 18, 2005, 11:40:15 PM
i dont think salisbury will be the same after losing so many key defensive players. i dont think b-port will be the same without DARNLEY. I honestly can't see either team beating a wesley team that welcomes back 18 starters form a team that got "screwed" from an ECAC bowl bid
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 19, 2005, 12:03:10 AM
I have to to agree with acfcposter's assessment.  The posting was very detailed in it's analysis.  I guess we can debate this thing all season long, however in the end it will be decided on the field between the two teams.

I still don't understand how Salisbury has lost "so many " defensive players?  Yes the Sea Gulls lost a tremendous leader in DeHaven, but as stated in a previous post, Westbrook and Fleming has and will maintain the defensive intensity.  The Offense with Johnson and Satchell is a monster.


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on August 19, 2005, 04:31:01 PM
salisbury lost dehaven, sandora, myrtle, and chris barr. Those were the players on the team that were doing good for them (excluding westbrook and demming). Dehaven was the heart and sould of that defense. It will be hard to replace hime...just liike it will be hard for wesley to replace rocky myers. Can anyone name a corner in the conference who can shut down JON LANOUETTE?!?!? :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on August 20, 2005, 01:52:40 AM
What does the "karma" mean?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 20, 2005, 01:01:46 PM
Luvapontiac:

I have no idea what "Karma" means?  Perhaps Pat can explain it to us.  I've been looking for you and Muhammad to help me out on this Salisbury/Wesley conversation.   

What do you think of the new format, and by the way welcome back?

Go Gulls    8)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on August 20, 2005, 03:15:24 PM
I think the core defensive unit Salisbury brings back that was very deep last year plus a great incoming freshman and transfer student squad will even out the players they lost to graduation. Sherman Woods says defensive tackle Artie Willette  should probably start as a true freshman and will be an immediate theat to any offense Salisbury plays. That along with a decent core of returning offensive players should balance Salisbury out with enough experience and depth to win some good ballgames. I am not saying they are the Mount Union Raiders or anything, but they should compete for the confernece title. I think Wesley is good, but I don't think they have the depth on defense to to keep schools with solid offenses from scoring. Wesley will have to score a lot of points to win their games...and with the offense they a putting on the field, that should not be a problem. Their weak spot is their defense. But again, it's college football where anything can happen!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on August 21, 2005, 03:32:22 PM
Who is theis Artie Willett kid? What high school and area is he from? Also, isn't it a little bit early to put him in the starting lineup? I mean it is only a few days into camp, right?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on August 21, 2005, 09:29:46 PM
does anyone have an answer regarding my question about defending jon lanouette???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on August 22, 2005, 09:46:50 PM
Dude, any cornerback on any team who wishes to challenge him is going to stop him on many different occasions this season. He is talented, but he is certainly stopable. If he were not stopable then Wesley would certainly win every game this season.

I don't know too much about this Artie kid Coach Woods has been praising, all I heard is that he is probably going to start him as a true freshman because he has the talent to be a starter. You are correct, it is still early in the preseason. I am just going by what I heard the coach say about this young man.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on August 23, 2005, 07:25:50 AM
Luv,
Thanks for the update. It sounds like Coach Wood really likes that kid. As far as who is going to defend/stop who in the ACFC this year, we have to talk about the most dominant offensive and defensive players in the league. These are Dustin Johnson (Salisbury) and Kevin Culbert (Frostburg). Dustin can impact a game more than anyone in this conference simply because he is a superior athlete and also because he has the ball in his hands every offensive play. With the big fullback that Salisbury has running up the middle, you have to pick your poison. There is no real way to stop Dustin, you only hope to limit the damage that he does. On the defensive side of the ball the most dominent player in the ACFC is Kevin Culbert. It seems that everyone forgot that he was an All American 2 years ago. He had a medical red shirt last season, but has come back bigger, stronger and faster. Unfortunately, Kevin will not get the credit he deserves because Frostburg will not win many games. If he played for a top 10 team, he would be a consensus All American.
Title: Re: lagrange football
Post by: DanSwan on August 23, 2005, 04:13:25 PM
They play Rhodes their first game.
Title: Re: lagrange football
Post by: Hawks88 on August 23, 2005, 07:48:01 PM
According to their website, Rhodes is the first home game after going to Maryville for the first game.
Title: Re: lagrange football
Post by: classof06 on August 23, 2005, 08:05:18 PM
i think i may try to play for them, i graduate this year and i am thinking about going there.... 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 24, 2005, 01:52:54 PM
Luv:

Who is backing up Dustin Johnson this year?  In the past they could go to a Shai Warsaw type.  Does the backup QB have any experience? 

I also expect another huge year for Leroy Satchel.  The Gulls have to make it to the playoffs and get over the hump and get a post season win.

Title: Re: lagrange football
Post by: ACMob on August 25, 2005, 12:07:52 AM
Lagrange should be an easy place for recruiting.  They have no competing schools (in D3) close to them.  The local high school has won the past 2-3 state championship within their class.  Also, before moving up in division II, West GA. won the D3 title back in 82 and they are geographically similar.  Lots of real good local boys that can play football should be interested in this GA/AL border school.  Eventually, they will be a force in the South region!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on August 25, 2005, 09:37:40 AM
I believe at this point it is Travis Peters out of McDonough, though I am not entirely sure yet. No backup QB got significant playing time last season really.

I agree with you about the getting the playoff win this season, or nobody will take them seriously anymore when they become a choke playoff team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 25, 2005, 12:22:03 PM
Luv:

I noticed that the Gulls are playing a 1-AA team in St. Peters (NJ).  Additionally, the Peacocks has a preseason All-American at RB.  Since the game is at Salisbury, I hope the Gulls pull it out, however, do you think a lost to a 1-AA team will affect their playoff chances if they only have one loss to another D3 squad?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 25, 2005, 12:27:47 PM
St. Peter's is I-AA non-scholarship. If Salisbury loses to them they are in a world of hurt. St. Peter's only beat Hartwick, one of the worst teams in D-III, 19-9 last year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 25, 2005, 12:58:38 PM
Pat:

Thanks for the input.  I live in North Jerssey and wasn't even aware St. Peters had a foorball team until I saw them on Salisbury's schedule.

I'm looking forward to the Salisbury, CNU game as well as the Widener, Montclair, and Wesley games. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Knightstalker on August 25, 2005, 01:34:48 PM
St. Peters used to have a hard time beating NJCU back when they were JCSC and still had football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 25, 2005, 01:53:58 PM
Knightstalker:

Thanks for the encouraging info on St. Peters.  Have you heard from Ira Thor lately? 

Hopefully Lincoln will get another "crack" at the Gothic Knights in Basketball, but that subject belongs on another board.      8)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Knightstalker on August 25, 2005, 03:50:15 PM
Ira just sent the the Mens and womens soccer schedules to all the Gothic Knight fans on his mailing list. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on August 25, 2005, 09:40:36 PM
Travis Peters started a couple of games (maybe 3?) for Salisbury last year.  Dustin Johnson hurt his knee in the Methodist game and was out for awhile.  I know Travis started and played the whole game against Greensboro last year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: plmokn on August 26, 2005, 10:21:45 PM
Travis Peters started 3 games last year and played in 9 of the 11.  Salisbury always plays more than one QB
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: plmokn on August 26, 2005, 10:24:21 PM
I believe Wesley will win the conference.  With their academic standards they have a distinct advantage.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on August 26, 2005, 10:41:05 PM
You have to be kidding. Wesley, academic standards  :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on August 26, 2005, 10:44:17 PM
You have to be kidding, Wesley academic standards  :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 26, 2005, 11:00:33 PM
Yeah, standards are for the people who post messages twice. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on August 27, 2005, 09:41:59 AM
Pat,

I did not see my first post register, then I did it again and the first post was there. Can you delete a post after it is sent. I figured someone would pick-up on it. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on August 27, 2005, 12:04:53 PM
FYI, you can modify or delete any post you make, and it doesn't have to be within 15 minutes like the old board.  Look in the upper right corner of any post for the "modify" and "delete" buttons.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 27, 2005, 12:18:23 PM
Actually, I'm not sure every poster has the same access. More senior posters have more privileges.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 27, 2005, 09:51:11 PM

Just dropped my daughter off today to Salisbury.  I think they had a scrimmage today.  Can someone let me know if Gulls scrimmaged today, and if so who did they play and what was the outcome.

It's a long day to drive from North Jersey to Maryland, unpack and get back home!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on August 28, 2005, 10:34:19 PM
Go to this link for some short news videos about the Salisbury and Wesely football teams.

http://www.wboc.com/Global/category.asp?C=42947&nav=MXEa
Title: Re: Salisbury's defense
Post by: Bigtoe75 on August 28, 2005, 10:56:05 PM
Also, here is an article about Salisbury's defense.

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050827/SPORTS/508270324/1006/NEWS17
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 29, 2005, 09:13:18 AM
Bigtoe:

Thanks for the links.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 29, 2005, 09:21:08 AM
Pat:

There was a decent article in the NY Times yesterday abour Brett Elliott from Linfield.  I was rather surprised, to see the article, detailing Elliotts career at Utah, his injury, and the rise of Alex Smith.  Go publicity for Linfield, as the article mentioned that NFL Scouts will be following Elliott this year.

BTW, Pat I saw a couple parents with CUA's tee shirts dropping their kids off to Salisbury this weekend   :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 29, 2005, 11:07:22 AM
Got the Scrimmage Information on the Gulls.  Salisbury Beat McDaniel College 26-17.  No info how well or how long any of the starters played.

Season opens Saturday aganist Methodist at home Go Gulls.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 30, 2005, 08:50:08 AM
Luv; afcposter; Muhammad:

Any feel for the season opener with Methodist?  I haven't seen much banter on this page. 

I guess the CNU faithdul will start as the Salisbury/CNU game approaches.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 30, 2005, 10:30:26 AM
The extended forecast call for excellent weather in the 'Bury.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bportrocks on August 30, 2005, 01:43:58 PM
im surprised there hasnt been much discussion about brockports offense. I doubt there are any teams in the conference(let alone much of the country) that can shut them down.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 30, 2005, 01:55:01 PM
Probably because Darnley is gone and recieved the "Lions share" of publicity for B-Ports Offensive machine
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bportrocks on August 30, 2005, 02:16:50 PM
true, darnley was a great QB, but AJ Covella is the same type of scrambling quarterback who can make plays, plus he has better talent surrounding him than darnley did.  With the receivers, running backs and TE's covella should be able to more than fill darnleys shoes
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 30, 2005, 02:19:01 PM
It's going to be interesting when Salisbury travels to B-port.  I know the revenge factor will be at hand, and I hope the long trip dosen't take too much out of the players.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 30, 2005, 04:19:57 PM
Week 1 ACFC Predictions:

NC Wesleyan over APPRENTICE
BROCKPORT over Cortland State
SALISBURY over Methodist
DEPAUW over Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on August 30, 2005, 08:44:39 PM
why depauw over wesley???????
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 30, 2005, 09:21:25 PM
Probably because DePauw's at home and is no pushover.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Dr. Seagull on August 30, 2005, 09:45:28 PM
Depauw takes Wesley in a shootout 44-37
NC Wesleyan over Apprentice 21-7
Brockport over Cortland 34-17
Salisbury over Methodist 35-14

How bout them gulls this year...they are pretty good...lots of potential to be great or just another good team...we will see...I love this time of year...Good to see everyone in here

1 UP AND 1 DOWN GULLS...METHODIST...BRING YOUR DOG IF YOUR SCURRED
#56
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on August 31, 2005, 07:25:00 AM
I pretty much agree with the picks for this weekend. I believe that Salisbury will take Methodist by at least 3 TD's. Methodist is traditionally undisciplined and if you get up on them they will roll over. I can not see Methodist being able to stop the Salisbury running game. I also believe that Brockport will win a fairly tough one against Cortland. I can't wait until next week when everyone is playing!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 31, 2005, 09:28:28 AM
Theone:

Pat hit it on the head, DePauw is not a pushover, and given that the Wolverines have to make a long, trip, Season opener at home, gives the edge to the home team.

I wouldn't be   :o if Wesley won.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 31, 2005, 09:33:18 AM
Dr. Seagull:

Welcome back!  although under a different handle  ;D.  I remember during your senior year homecoming/parents day that someone with the #56 painted on their body with a "beak" going to the visitor's side to heckle the Wolverine fans.

Fear the Bird !
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Dr. Seagull on August 31, 2005, 11:24:35 AM
Yeah...I remember that day vividly...those were my two younger brothers...they are crazy...I couldn't sign on with my old name...I think Pat got sick of me...anyways...it is going to be a great season....can't wait...for all you Wesley fans...you remember that day don't you ;D....hahaha...fear the bird
#56
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 31, 2005, 03:13:33 PM
Dr. Seagull:

Good to have you back  :).  I'm surprised that Narch and some of the USAC guys haven't visited our site to discuss the season opener aganist Methodist.  I posted one comment and received a reply, but that was it.  I haven't heard from luvapontiac in a while.

The Gulls need to make it to the playoff and get that first win to maintain the momentum started a few years ago.

Fear the Bird !!!  Go Gulls !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Knightstalker on August 31, 2005, 03:48:51 PM
I haven't figured it out yet, but there is something bizarrely funny about the statement "Fear the Bird".   ???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 31, 2005, 04:27:04 PM
Knightstalker:

Funny post  ;D.  There are some birds to fear (i.e Eagles, Falcons, and other Birds of prey), and there are some birds to avoid such as the Seagull, since there are so many of them and they may do considerable damage to cars, homes, and even humans if you're "splatterd upon"  ;D.

The term is also close to "flipping the bird" which many do and/or receive when driving (especially in New Jersey).
Believe it or not Maryland - College Park, has the term Fear the Turtle which may sound even more bizarre.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on August 31, 2005, 07:00:39 PM
Any thoughts on which will be the best games of the year in the ACFC and why? Which games will be blow outs and why? Also, does anyone think that this year's Regent's Cup game between Frostburg and Salisbury will be worth going to?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on August 31, 2005, 07:54:40 PM
The Methodist fans are quiet because they know the gulls are gonna kick them around pretty good on Saturday.  Last year Dustin got hurt and the weather was terrible (mud pit), causing the game to be a close one.  The Gulls roll at home.
You have to go to the Regents Cup game, just to see the Gulls beat up on those Bobcats.  They had our number for awhile and now it is our turn.  A rivalry game is always a good one no matter what the records are for each team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 31, 2005, 10:16:22 PM
I think Salisbury Wesley and Salisbury Brockport are the games to see in the ACFC this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 31, 2005, 10:22:48 PM
Bport070782:

What is the tailgating atmosphere like at Special Olympic Stadium?  With a 10,000 seat stadium, there must be plenty of parking for tailgating.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 31, 2005, 10:28:23 PM
Bigtoe:

The weather is suppose to be excellent this weekend.  That should be excellent news for the running game.  The Gulls has Methodist second leading rusher from last year on the team. 

From what I remember from last year, the offense needs to cut down on the turnovers (primarily fumbles).

Big, do you think the opener will be a sellout?

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 31, 2005, 10:42:26 PM
Dr. Seagull:

Are congratulations in order for you, or do you have another semester in West Virginia?

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Knightstalker on August 31, 2005, 10:53:58 PM
I hope his proctology rotation didn't stink too much.   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on August 31, 2005, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on August 31, 2005, 10:22:48 PM
Bport070782:

What is the tailgating atmosphere like at Special Olympic Stadium?  With a 10,000 seat stadium, there must be plenty of parking for tailgating.

Ha, not as much parking as you would think...In comparison to other D3 places I have been in though, it's pretty OK.  I am not sure how Salisbury's Facilities are to compare it to.

Just be lucky the game is early in the season before the Nippy wind tunnel that is Brockport starts becoming a factor! 

Good Luck this weekend


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on August 31, 2005, 11:06:12 PM
As For the best games in the ACFC this season, I think any of the games involving Wesley, Salisbury, and Brockport are the main ones.

However, I am looking forward to Brockport/Salisbury after the gulls demolished us last year, to see if a measure of revenge can be inflicted.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 31, 2005, 11:18:23 PM
Bport070782:

I'm glad the Salibury game is played early.  I have been to Syracuse and Rochester in November and it has been cold there.

Sea Gull stadium only seats 2500.  Hopefully with the recent success of the football team, the admin will look to add to increase the seating.  The Lacrosse and Field hockey teams have experienced success as in 5 NCAA championships in the last three years so they are getting all the attention.  A new scoreboard was added last year.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 01, 2005, 08:52:46 AM
Luvapontiac:

Are you out there?  Has Coach Woods got the guys ready for Saturday?  What is the health prognosis?  Hopefully no one is on IR.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 01, 2005, 12:11:41 PM
I have started my rotations...technically I am not a doctor and won't graduate til May of 2007...but it is much better being in the hospital than in the classroom...BTW...I haven't made it to Proctology yet...and don't plan on it...I start ER on 9/12/05 and have been on vacation for a couple of weeks not.

I have been in contact with some of the coaches and there are very few if any injuries...knock on wood...the word out of camp is the maturity of Dustin Johnson...He is a good friend of mine but like everyone else...lets see it happen...if it is truely the case...this offense could be next to unstoppable...they return 4 of 5 olineman...some guys that have been starting there since I played...they could top last year by a lot...I think there best game will be against CNU but there next toughest comp. will be Brockport.  There definately is the revenge factor and the home field advantage...the way I see it the game hasn't even started and the score is already Brockport 10 Salisbury 0...so Salisbury will have to overcome that advantage and play physical football...as far as Wesley goes...there running back is good but I think overrated...you look at him and then look at Satchell...two diff. types of runners but Nelson is going to have trouble with the physical nature of Brockport and Salisbury's defenses.

Me and Dehaven are thinking about making the trip to Brockport since I live right outside Pittsburgh...it shouldn't take that long...some of those Brockport posters have a couple cold ones waiting??...anyways it should be a great game...of course I always give the edge to the gulls...in the two years I have been away from Salisbury I have predicted them to go 20-0... 17-3 isn't bad though...therefore...I am predicting week 2...both teams sitting at 1-0 with convincing wins each...Salisbury 31 Brockport 30....being the game of the year in the ACFC.

BRING THE DICK AND FEAR THE BIRD BOYS
#56
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 01, 2005, 01:18:41 PM
Dr. Seagull:

Thanks for the overview, unfortunately it looks like the only game I will see in person is the Homecoming/Parents Day game aganist Apprentice  :(.  I'll catch the gull via the internet like I didi last year.

Go Gulls !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 01, 2005, 04:47:24 PM
Dr. Seagull:

It's good that you've stayed incontact with Brad.  What is he doing these days?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 01, 2005, 05:15:52 PM
Is it just me, or is ther only Salisbury, Wesley and Brockport posters on this board? Where are all of the Frostburg and Buff St people? I would really like to hear what they have to say!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2005, 07:11:46 PM
WOW!!!  The D3 gods have smiled on me. I had major puter problems but I AM BACK.

  I think the season will be very interesting this year. There are a few quality teams and that could make for a 1 or 2 loss season for the conference winner. Wesley will be well tesgted before the league schedule starts with back to back road trips to Indiana (Depauw) and So.Va.(Averett). Good thing they are flying to Depauw. If Warrick adds the ability to run to his game he may get close to doing what Visconti did for Wesley a few years back. Wesley is also still miffed about last years snub by the ecac. I know Pat, But if the motivation works !!! Well people I am glad to be back and it is great to see the board  humming 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2005, 07:19:35 PM
  Enough of the academic bashing of Wesley!!!! Maybe some of you should check out there standing now. !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 01, 2005, 08:46:42 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2005, 07:11:46 PMWesley is also still miffed about last years snub by the ecac. I know Pat, But if the motivation works !!!

Actually, I thought that was a pretty valid gripe. Wesley should have been in over McDaniel, esp. considering McDaniel's players ending up walking out and leaving basically a shell of a team to get shellacked by Albright.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 02, 2005, 12:15:02 AM
Quote from: acfcposter on September 01, 2005, 05:15:52 PM
Is it just me, or is ther only Salisbury, Wesley and Brockport posters on this board? Where are all of the Frostburg and Buff St people? I would really like to hear what they have to say!

I thought that there was a buffalo state poster around here, though I can't remember any Frostburg ones...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2005, 08:48:11 AM
A little more than 24 hours before kick-off at Sea Gull Stadium.  Here's hoping to a successful injury free season for Salisbury.

Go Gulls........Fear the Bird, Don't Flip the Bird!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2005, 08:57:25 AM
PA Wesley Fan:

Welcome to the board,  I agree with acfcposter, where are the Buff State and Frost U posters?  I'm also surprised that there has not been many USAC (especially CNU) posters on this board yet.  I guess the CNU posters will show up as the game between Salisbury/CNU gets closer.

Though schedule for the Gulls with Methodist, B-Port, CNU and Montclair State.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2005, 09:25:36 AM
Bport070782:

Do you know what Brockport's future plan are with the ACFC?  I believe I read somewhere that Buff State will be joining the NJAC.  If Brockport and Buff State leave, it will leave the conference with just four teams again.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2005, 09:43:48 AM
Pat:

Since the ACFC site is with Independents, how many Independent D3 schools are out there? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2005, 01:04:49 PM
Salisbury University Sea Gulls Football games are broadcast on wico-am.  The website is  www.wicoam.com




Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2005, 01:46:42 PM
Gordon Mann:

Welcome to the Garden State (even though Pennsylvanians are our neighbors) to you and Pat (travelling up 95 and the NJ Turnpike).

Gordon, thanls for your support of Lincoln last year, and I'm looking forward to hoops.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2005, 02:39:52 PM
Prediction

Salisbury Sea Gulls 38  Methodist Monarchs 24
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 02, 2005, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2005, 09:25:36 AM
Bport070782:

Do you know what Brockport's future plan are with the ACFC?  I believe I read somewhere that Buff State will be joining the NJAC.  If Brockport and Buff State leave, it will leave the conference with just four teams again.



I don't know what there plan is, but Buffalo State IS joining the NJAC next year for certain.  Like Buffalo State, a conference like the NJAC would be a better situation for Brockport, but I am not sure if they want to try their luck at that, or stay as a Pool B competitor playing in a non-qualifier Conference.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 03, 2005, 02:58:40 AM
There are more than a dozen schools in D-III whom we classify as independents. In the South Region, however, now that Maryville is in the USAC, there's just Huntingdon. Next year LaGrange will add football and it is independent as well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 03, 2005, 09:33:45 AM
Remember Fellow ACFC'ers, if you want to check up on how the Golden Eagles are doing, you can listen live here:

GOLDEN EAGLES FOOTBALL  (http://www.891thepoint.com/site.htm)
and on the right side of the screen below the Subway add it should say listen live, click on the link and you should be on your way!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 03, 2005, 10:24:37 AM
NJLincolnLion, good morning!

There are several dimensions to your question about independents.

The Independents are listed by clicking on the web site for a school like Huntingdon.  Pat has listed the Independents like a national "conference" on the right side bar on the page such as Huntingdon's.

The ACFC is not an officially recognized "Single Sport" Conference.  Those are the IBC and the NEFC.

As for independents that are available to join the ACFC, the practical aspects of that decision lead me to believe that most athletic directors would look elsewhere.

As Pat said, Huntingdon (Montgomery AL) and LaGrange (GA) starting in '06 are members of the GSAC which does not sponsor football and are too far South.  Fellow GSAC member Maryville TN has joined the USASouth as an affiliate this year.

Becker, Mount Ida, Husson...all too far north and would more likely join with Maine Maritime as North Atlantic Conference members to sponsor their own football conference.  SUNY-Maritime (Skyline Conference) adds in '06 and SUNY Morrisville becomes a provisional next year.  They are more likely to join an existing conference.  I believe that SUNY-Morrisville has expressed interest in the NJAC.

There are changes in the midwest with the merger of the Lake Michigan and Northern Illinois-Iowa Conferences that will affect the Illinois-Badger Conference.

I can see Brockport St joining the NJAC or a newly configured SUNYAC with Cortland State, Buffalo ST, Cortland State and SUNY-Morrisville when SUNY-Morrisville is a full member around 2010.  Wesley makes great sense, geographically, for the NJAC.

My best guesses for Salisbury are these two options:   to find another home or to remain with a withered ACFC  in Pool B (see the FAQ's for more information) to try to qualify for the playoffs.  When the 2005 Handbook is released, we will know how many playoff slots will go for the Pool B schools:  the ACFC-5, the UAA-4, both the Pres AC-7 and the  NWC-7 until fall 2007, and the 12 independents that Pat has identified.

Even the number of Pool B's are dwindling.  In 2006, Buff St is leaving for the NJAC.  Menlo is affiliating with the NWC thus the NWC moves to Pool A in 2007.  Plymouth St is joining the NEFC. Thomas More's addition to the Pres AC will move the Pres AC to Pool A in 2007 also.  Those 16 schools will carry their numbers out of Pool B and into Pool A. UMAC schools are in discussion for achieving a Pool A bid, maybe eventually by 2011.

Pool B bids are given out at a ratio of 1 bid for every 6.5 eligible schools up to a football maximum of 32 bids.  Salisbury and Brockport may be competing for a one of those Pool B bids.  That is a risky strategy, because they may not be able to fill their schedule if all nearby teams have conference obligations for their scheduling dates.

Good luck and have a fun Saturday!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 03, 2005, 02:34:19 PM
wesley 10  depauw 7 end of one
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 03, 2005, 02:34:51 PM
Halftime: NNA 23, NCWC 7
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: John McGraw on September 03, 2005, 02:52:56 PM
Cortland 17 Brockport 3, 6:50 left in 3rd, Cortland has the ball

Golden Eagles are being absolutely monkey stomped.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 03, 2005, 02:58:33 PM
That is ONE way to put it...lol...

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 03, 2005, 03:23:58 PM
Salisbury leads Methodist 34 -14 with 1:00 to go in the 3rd quarter
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 03, 2005, 03:27:51 PM
41-14 in the 4th quarter 14:30 left to go.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 03, 2005, 03:37:29 PM
41-20  in the 4th with 10:13 to go.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: John McGraw on September 03, 2005, 03:53:10 PM
FINAL

Cortland 20 Brockport 10
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 03, 2005, 04:09:06 PM
Final:

Salisbury   48

Methodist  28
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 03, 2005, 04:35:29 PM
Final
NNA 37, NC Wesleyan 21  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 03, 2005, 07:35:12 PM
Congrats to NNA on their season opening win.  What does the loss to Cortland say about Brockport?  Is Cortland that good, or did Brockport just have a bad day?  Salisbury could really put them in a hole at 0-2, if they beat Brockport next week.
The Salisbury game was a typical first game of the year.  Some good things and some areas for improvement.  Dustin Johnson is just such an incredible athelete.  On the first touchdown, 2 or 3 guys had him in the backfield, he broke out of someone's grip and reversed his direction scoring 50 some yards later.  Westbrook also had a good game returning punts and kickoffs.  Salisbury just has some very good atheletes making plays.  They just need to get trough these first 4 weeks and take care of the ball.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on September 03, 2005, 07:37:58 PM
Bigtoe:

John McGraw from D3football.com was at the Brockport/Cortland game today and offers some thoughts on the East region boards.  Plus he's very familiar with both teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 03, 2005, 07:48:56 PM
That's going to be a big, big game in the ACFC next week with Salisbury and Brockport.  With that game and NNA-FSU, conference jumps up quickly.
I think it's going to be a very entertaining season in the ACFC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 03, 2005, 08:13:23 PM
I think it was a mixture of a vastly underrated Cortland defense and a bad day for Brockport...No, it isn't the end of the world, but with the schedule they have it's gonna be tough to stay competitive with any team if they play like this.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dpadavona on September 03, 2005, 09:12:18 PM
The Cortland-Brockport wrap up and game story is now available.

http://www.cortlandfootball.com/news.htm#bport
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 03, 2005, 10:10:39 PM
Congratulations to Salisbury and Newport News. I have to admit, I am a little dissappointed in the result of the Brockport game. I was hoping to see both Brockport and Salisbury on a roll going into their game next week. Also, did everyone see some of the new teams that Salisbury added on their schedule? I believe that Montclair and Christopher Newport both lost. Salisbury may have picked the right time to get these teams on the schedule. I just hope that they keep the strong schedule after players like Dustin Johnson, Andrew Deming and Westbrook graduate. Any early predictions on next weeks games? I really think that the Apprentice/Frostburg game is going to be a dogfight.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: narch on September 03, 2005, 10:34:06 PM
congrats to the gulls...dj is a special athlete and he certainly proved it today - sounded like satchell couldn't be stopped on the go-ahead drive in the 2nd quarter - when that offense is right, it's hard to stop - i just hope the monarchs came out of the game with some positives and know what it takes to compete at that level

for anyone who was at the game, i need some info. badly - listening on the internet it sounded as though roncketti (qb #2) missed the last 2 or 3 series of the first half - i didn't listen to the 2nd half (family obligations), but the initial box score on the ssu website had frosh a. bartee with 150+ yards passing and 40+ yards rushing - that box has been changed showing no pass attempts by bartee (i swear the ssu announcers said that he threw at least one pass on a 3rd and long just before half-time) and the game story talks about roncketti having a big day with 222 yards passing and 43 yards rushing - did roncketti play in the 2nd half??? - thanks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 04, 2005, 09:51:42 AM
Recap of the Salisbury/Methodist game.

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050904/SPORTS/509040330/1006
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 04, 2005, 10:00:14 PM
Ralph:

Thanks for the overview regarding the ACFC and the difficulty Salisbury may have advancing to the playoffs in a conference that does not have an automatic bid.

I just got home from a weekend trip.  I am very happy with the outcome of the Salisbury Methodist game.  I'm hoping Brockport continues their let down until after Salisbury plays them.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 04, 2005, 10:06:10 PM
Narch:

Thanks for your comments, and best of luck to the Monarchs for the rest of the season.  Salisbury has a potent offence, but I'm very concerned with the turnovers.  Last year there were some games the Sea Gulls won that were close and stastically Salisbury were way ahead  and the fumbles hurt them.  I hope Coach Woods and his staff can address this issue, because eventually the law of averages will catch up with you.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 04, 2005, 10:13:50 PM
Congratulations to Wesley and NNA.  The Wesley win over DePauw on the Road was impressive, and NNA's win over a USA South team was great to see.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 05, 2005, 12:48:37 AM
Narch,
I don't know when he came in, but #17, Bartee was in the game in the second half.  The first box score seemed right because he had some long pass plays in the second half.  Since it was the first game, I was focused more on what the Gulls were doing. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: plmokn on September 05, 2005, 09:38:27 AM
Ronketti was in the game, he had to switch jerseys
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 05, 2005, 10:19:37 PM
wesley looked really good in their opening game at depauw. depauw is a very good and well disciplined team and the wolverines came out early and jumped on them. The wolverines recieving corp looks really good and im excited about the remainder of the season.  good luck to everyone.

any predictions on the brockport salisbury game this week?!?!

salisbury 31
brockport 35

revenge from last year at home will be  a big factor.  Salisbury's defense is good, but nothing compared to last years defense. It will be interesting to see what brockport can do without darnely.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 05, 2005, 10:37:10 PM
I dunno....I was really surprised how bad Brockport State played this weekend offensively, it will take a lot to get through Salisbury's defense. Of course anything can happen, but after a shaky start to the first quarter, Salisbury looked awfully tough once they got hot. I know Brockport is tougher than they played this week, so the game should be a dogfight, but I think Salisbury has the depth to overcome a tough Brockport team. Should be a great game!

Salisbury does have a tough stretch coming up with Brockport State and CNU the next two weeks. We will see how tough they really are though! 8)

Another surprising team was Newport! I am glad to see them get a quality win for a change. That team deserves nothing but respect and I wish them the best in each game they play.

My predictions for next weekend:
Newport 17 FSU 13
Salisbury 24 Brockport 17
Ithaca 51 Buffalo St. 6
Wesley 21 Averette 14
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 06, 2005, 07:40:35 AM
Predictions for this week:

Wesley 31  Averett 17
Salisbury 28 Brockport 14
Ithaca 42 Buffalo St 10
Frostburg 17 Newport News 14
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 06, 2005, 09:02:02 AM
acfcposter:

I agree with your picks except for NNA.  The Builders may be the surprise team of the conference this year.  I'll go with NNA in a close one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 06, 2005, 01:24:27 PM
njlincolnlion:

I have to disagree. Although I also believe that the game will be close, there is NO way that Frostburg loses to Apprentice. Even though Frostburg has been bad for the past 5 years, they still have better athletes than Apprentice. The main reason is that Apprentice will not be able to do much against the Frostburg defense. They return all of their D-Line, including Kevin Culbert who is the only person in the conference that has shut down Dustin Johnson.  Also, I believe that Chris Lentz (MLB) will make plays all day long. The Frostburg O will do just enough to pull out the win. With that being said, it seems that Apprentice is much improved and will be able to compete in more games this year than in the past.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 06, 2005, 01:53:17 PM
acfcposter:

I forgot about Culbert, therefore you may be right with a close Frostburg win.  I guess I was basing my prediction on NNA's opening win over a team in that powerhouse USA South conference.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 06, 2005, 03:18:01 PM
I really believe that he  (Culbert) will be the difference. The kid is getting some looks from NFL scouts. I don't think that he is heavy enough to play with his hand down, but when you are a legitimate 6'5" and can run the 40 in the 4.6 range, I guess that he has an outside shot. In addition, he is a really good kid with a very humble personality.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 06, 2005, 03:44:27 PM
I remember playing against him...you have to give credit where it is due...he makes plays but just seemed to be the least physical of their dlineman...now...they had a stacked dline in 2002 but he made plays

I thought Salisbury played well but it was a good first game...it should be a good one this weekend...can't wait...I hate to see Brockport go 0-2 but I see that happening...but the gulls have to play under some tough conditions...anyways here are the predictions for this week...

Salisbury 44 Brockport 21
NNA 24 FSU 23
Ithaca 40 Buff. St 3
Wesley 34 Averett 9

GET YOU ANOTHER ONE GULLS...#56
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 06, 2005, 03:56:19 PM
acfcposter & Dr. Seagull:

I'm concerned about Salisbury ball handling.  Last year they had trouble handling the ball.  DJ is a terrific player, but I think satchell protects the ball better.  I hope Coach Woods worked with the guys with some sort of ball handling techniques to reduce fumbling the pigskin.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 06, 2005, 04:32:26 PM
njlincolnlion:

I would not really worry about the Salisbury ball handling. I believe that they get themselves into trouble when they get up on people and they lose concentration. The dive/option that they run requires so many people to be on the same page and if one of them is not concentrating then fumbles happen. When Salisbury gets up on some people I think that they get a little bored. All in all, I believe that the risk is well worth the reward when it comes to Salisbury running the option. They can just give people fits!!

Dr Seagull:

You are right about Culbert not being the most physical DE in the country. But, the kid has a tremendous motor and is always around the ball. I remember alot of the plays that he made against you guys in 2002 and 2003 were hustle and his ability to run people down. I believe that in both games he had around 15 tackles a couple sacks and at least one fumble recovery. Both times that he has started against Salisbury in the Regent's Cup he was the defensive player of the game!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 06, 2005, 04:34:39 PM
Congratulations to Dustin Johnson and Byron Westbrook, ACFC's Offensive and Special Teams Players of the Week respectively.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 06, 2005, 05:10:50 PM
Dr. Seagull,

Is that you Muhammad??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 06, 2005, 09:05:00 PM
Yes it is...who might luvapontiac be?...and you are right...he does have a motor.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 06, 2005, 09:15:16 PM
Dr. Seagull:

Are you still planning on going up to Brockport this weekend with DeHaven?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 06, 2005, 09:33:16 PM
Luv: & Dr. Seagull:

Does anyone know what Kyle Acker is doing these days?  I know he was with the Saints during pre-season two years ago.  I see his younger brother is a freshman DB for the Gulls.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 07, 2005, 09:13:18 AM
He (Kyle Acker) is playing in the NFL Europe for the Rhein Fire for the 2005 season.

http://www.nfleurope.com/players/playerpage/1624

To answer your question Dr. Seagull, I am an avid poster on this board who is a big SU fan! I thought you have seen my name on here by now!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 07, 2005, 09:27:55 AM
luv:

Thanks for the info on Kyle.  I hope he does well in Europe and gets another shot at the NFL.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 07, 2005, 09:46:17 AM
Wesley is playing on the road again at Averett.  Here's hoping for a Wolverine win over another USA South Team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 07, 2005, 09:54:27 AM
wesley's recieving corp is really good this year. I think that will carry them over with the running game of kevin nelson and alpha karoma.  Warrick also looks alot better than last year.

Good Luck Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2005, 10:21:01 AM
NFL Europe's season is during the spring and early summer. It's been wrapped up for a while.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 07, 2005, 10:23:08 AM
Pat:

Any chance of you and Gordon coming to Salisbury this year to do a game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 07, 2005, 12:46:13 PM
I remember you luvapontiac...was just wondering if you were an ex-player or something.

Acker actually was doing real well with the team and then broke his leg in a scrimmage after he had like 4 catches...anyways...there season is over and now it is a waiting game...as far as I know...he didn't get invited to a camp this year...we will see what happens and what injury bug gets which team.

GET 'EM GULLS
#56
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 07, 2005, 01:33:48 PM
Naw, I played a little baseball and soccer, but I didn't actually gain any significant weight until after high school to play football at high school or the college level. Would have been nice though!
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Post by: njlincolnlion on September 07, 2005, 03:44:39 PM
Week 2

Frostburg State U at Newport News Apprentice - Bobcats

Salisbury at Brockport - Seagulls

Ithaca at Buffalo State - Bombers

Wesley at Averett - Wolverines
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 08, 2005, 09:32:19 AM

Where are the ACFC Fans?  It seems like it's basically acfcposter, luv, Dr. Seagull, occasionally b-port and theone.  C'mon.........Let's get this season started !!!! 
Title: Better games=Better posts!
Post by: luvapontiac on September 08, 2005, 10:11:54 AM
Usually it gets real good when some of our teams here play the big dogs from the Dixie, er USA South confernece. Wait till Salisbury plays CNU and their fans come over here to talk their usual smack! It gets to be a lot of fun.
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Post by: njlincolnlion on September 08, 2005, 11:54:38 AM
Luv:

I remeber all of the "talking" by CNU fans last year.  The Captains have already lost one game.  Can you imagine how they would feel potentially playing Salisbury at 1-2?  ;D

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Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 08, 2005, 12:07:08 PM
The captains should be ready to lose again...they are just not tough kids...this is their shortcoming...the two years we played them you would think we were playing a bunch of girls...with that being said they pulled one out last year but what team doesn't win when the other team has 8 fumbles that result in turnovers.  Ten days before the game I am here to inform that Salisbury goes into CNU's house...does whatever they want...puts up 50 and the final score...

SALISBURY 52 CNU 14...you heard it first right here

This week however, Brockport is going to get it and then next week...they can explain to the CNU fans what it feels like.

I do feel the Brockport game will be closer than the experts think and the opposite for the CNU game

FEAR THE BIRD AND BRING THE DICK BOYS
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 08, 2005, 02:07:17 PM
That's what I like to hear Dr. Seagull.  ;D
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Post by: njlincolnlion on September 08, 2005, 03:32:47 PM
Dr. Seagull:

Did you play with Brooks Moser during your senior year?  I see he's back at linebacker.  If I recall, as a freshman, he made a few good plays for the Gulls.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 08, 2005, 03:51:57 PM
Luv; acfcposter; Dr. Seagull:

Do you think Coach Woods would open up the passing game and get wide receivers Adam Dickerson and Joe Early involved if Brockport looks to stack up aganist the Gulls running game?

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 08, 2005, 06:18:57 PM
njlincoln--
  I did play with Brooks Moser...he is a big kid with loads of potential...it is his turn to shine...he was out of the game for a year or two due to personal reasons but I hear he is twice as big as I ever knew him to be.
  About the passing game, Fleetwood is the one making most of the offensive calls.  Our bread and butter is option football. We have proven over and over again that it takes more than 8 guys in the box to stop the option.  It takes discipline.  Brockport does have that kind of discipline I talk of.  I played with both of those guys...and I feel that Early has underacheived a lot in his career so far...he is like 6'2" and can jump and run with the best of them but hasn't taken that next step...nice kid but needs to put it into that last gear for his senior year...Dickerson is not quite the raw talent but the work ethic is there...however...I hear he got beat out for the second starting wr position by a guy that I am not familiar with...They can open up the playbook and the passing plays if the oline and pass protection as a whole can protect DJ...this is the challenge.  Because of the option, they are going to have to play man...and at the d3 level there shouldn't be any corner that should be able to cover 1 on 1 Joe Early...we will see what happens.

GET 'EM GULLS...THERE'S 2-0 NOW GO GET IT
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 08, 2005, 11:46:07 PM
NJ,

Absolutly! I think if Brockport stacks up front, the line will know it and open it up for the receivers and tight ends to get out in front for an aerial attack. I think Brockport will have to play a balanced defense and not try too many blitzes or they might get lit up by the Salisbury passing game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 09, 2005, 07:19:10 AM
njlincolnlion:

I really don't think that Salisbury will have to throw the ball against anyone this year, unless they are getting consistentantly pushed back on the O-Line. It really does not matter how many people you put in the box, if they can not find the ball. With the confusion that the dive/option creates and the way that Dustin runs it, I really do not see any need to pass this week. Also, I do not believe that the Salisbury coaches have 100% confidence in Dustin's throwing ability and the choices that he makes. It seems to be his only weakness.
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Post by: njlincolnlion on September 09, 2005, 09:17:42 AM
bport070782:

Any predictions/opinions/comments on the game tomorrow?  I understand Dr. Seagull and Brad DeHaven are planning on going to the game.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 09, 2005, 03:48:12 PM
Well, I was planning on going to the game if my wife was feeling better and sure enough she is...the only problem is she gave me that crap she had...oh well...I think Brad is making the trip and I really wish I could but with starting a new rotation on Monday and a killer schedule...I better lay low at home and listen to it...however...with this being said...now I have an argument to want to attend the Wesley game.

I also want to expand on Dustin Johnson...Tomorrow is the biggest game of the season for him and the entire offense.  This is his senior year and tomorrow's performance will either label him as a great qb in D3 this year and put him among the elite or it will make him a good D3 qb that brought some wins to a team that was strugling before he came.  I like him a lot and is very talented....You will hear it first here...If DJ rushes for 100 yds, completes >60% of his passes, has 1 turnover or less, and runs that offense the way he knows how...and continues this for the rest of the season...he should be considered for D3 player of the year...BUT...I am calling him out right now...turnovers are not the sign of a great qb...offensive struggles are not a sign of a great qb...We will see tomorrow if he wants to take the plunge to greatness...because if he does...The next 8 opponents are going to be in trouble...especially next week with that defense of CNU that gave up 609 yds to Rowan.

BALL UP BOYS AND BRING BACK WIN #2
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 09, 2005, 04:48:57 PM
Dr Seagull,

I have to agree with your assessment of Dustin. I have seen him play alot over the years and when he is on his game, he is a man among boys. He definitely has to cut down on the turnovers, but the kid is electric in the open field. I still don't know how he ended up playing D3 football! Anyway, I think that if he blows up and dominates these next few games that we should start talking about him as an All American candidate. It is a shame that the only QB's that get any recognition are the ones that pass for a ton of yards against some sub-par competition. Good luck to all of the ACFC teams this week.
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Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2005, 01:10:13 PM
And the golden Eagles sound a lot better today than last week already...about 10 minutes left in the first a 15 yard TD Pass to make the score 7-0 Brockport over Salisbury.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2005, 01:18:15 PM
Brockport strikes again with 730 left in the 1st after a long flea flicker pass, followed by another good pass, 13-0 after the missed extra point
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2005, 01:29:19 PM
Salisbury strikes back with lots of Satchel and Johnson..The Score is now 13-7 with 1:-07 left in the first..
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Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2005, 01:52:18 PM
Brockport blocks a punt, returns it for a TD 20-7  Brockport 5:46 left in the Second half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 10, 2005, 02:14:03 PM
Halftime:
NNA 21, Frostburg St. 3
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2005, 02:17:44 PM
Wow, good job so far for NNA, and at the half Brockport leads Salisbury 23-7
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Post by: acfcposter on September 10, 2005, 02:49:30 PM
I am shocked with the Newport News/Frostburg and Brockport/Salisbury scores!! It looks like I might be eating my words with the Forstburg/ NNA game. NNAsid, could you give me some details on the game. How did the Builders score? Has Frostburg just turned the ball over a couple times? Also, bport07782, please keep the updates coming from that game. Has anyone heard anything about the Wesley game? Please give me details!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2005, 02:54:09 PM
Salisbury scores with a long TD Pass, it's now 23-14 Brockport  with 10:03 left in the 3rd...YOu can see the score on the Scoreboard page on this site as well...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2005, 03:00:30 PM
Salisbury starting to feel it...the Gulls are driving again..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2005, 03:23:34 PM
Port Has melted down...now 28-23 Salisbury...
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Post by: empire8fan on September 10, 2005, 03:29:48 PM
Port turned it over again.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2005, 03:36:37 PM
Salisbury scores again, and the rout is going the other way now! 28 unanswered points 8:52, 35-23
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2005, 03:53:08 PM
Brockport scores, 3:05 left, 35-30 Salisbury
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 10, 2005, 03:57:19 PM
Builders win first conferece game ever :)

21-3 over Frostburg
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Post by: empire8fan on September 10, 2005, 04:00:23 PM
cathcing the tail end of the Port game, 1:40 left Port at midfield and down by 5...
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Post by: empire8fan on September 10, 2005, 04:01:08 PM
nevermind, Port turns it over.....
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Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 10, 2005, 04:05:53 PM
Final

Salisbury 35

Brockport 30
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Post by: luvapontiac on September 10, 2005, 04:10:09 PM
Nice games Newport and Salisbury! Way to go Builders! Hell of a win!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2005, 04:13:10 PM
Congrats to NNA!

Salisbury shows their explosiveness and never say die attitude in the second half, just bursting out scoring 28 unanswered.  The Brockport Defense just did not have an answer.    0-2, and the schedule remains tough...could be a long season if they can't' put a whole game together..
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Post by: Hampton U SID on September 10, 2005, 04:18:09 PM
the last thing we wanted was an angry Brockport team coming down here.
:)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 10, 2005, 04:26:17 PM
Hey nnasid,

If the builders play as well against Brockport as they did against FSU, then I wouldn't worry too much about an angry Brockport. Brockport should be worrying about confidence right now after getting into an 0-2 hole. They had a lot of costly mistakes and bad play today, very much not like Brockport.

Newport is tough this year, for the first time I feel confident that the Builders can win some quality games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 10, 2005, 04:33:06 PM
stats will be on our website here I would say by 7.
quickies
Total Off.: NNA 151, FSU 102
Rushing-Yds: NNA 54-84/FSU 27-18
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 10, 2005, 06:24:21 PM
what is your website?
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Post by: Hampton U SID on September 10, 2005, 07:05:01 PM
www.gobuilders.com

story coming to here within 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 10, 2005, 11:43:13 PM
Alrighty....another great week of ACFC action down, and the surprising Newport Builders are hanging tough at the top of the conference, surprising fans of all kinds! Now comes the fun part when Salisbury travels to CNU to take on the Captains in an exciting showdown from last years playoffs! Should be a great game! CNU atmosphere is getting to be a tough and loud place to play.  ;D

Week 3 predictions
Brockport 28 Apprentice School 35
Buffalo State 14  Wesley 24
Montclair State 3at Frostburg State 10
Salisbury 24 Christopher Newport 20
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 10, 2005, 11:59:04 PM
Go Salisbury!!!!!!!!! Beat the crap out of CNWHO this week boys!! Although SU got killed this week I still love them GO HORNETS OF SU!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 11, 2005, 12:26:46 AM
First of all Dr Seagull how can you say CNU is not a tough ball club. In our few short years all we have done is took the hard road to trying to become a D 3 powerhouse. I will admit SU has a very good team now.  But looking at how they got where they are now they used playing a cupcake schedule to get good recruits and then make their move to becoming a D 3 power. Remember after we lost to you guys 21-6 and then 20-13 your team dropped us after our first two years. To make things even worse the excuse you all gave us was that you all were seeking harder competition. Ummm lets see you guys didn't willing beef up your schedule until this year. But its whatever with Salisbury because all I know is that I will gladly give Dr. Seagull his victories against CNU in the regular season. But I will tell you ( no matter how we did it, nothing was more sweeter then knocking your 10-0 gulls out of the playoffs last season). O yeah! I think I remember a few Seagull fans talk about how much heart and determination CNU showed to pull out the win against SU last season. And I'm sorry to have to inform you but SU's team was much better last year. I will give credit when credit is do SU defensive unit was a beast last year.  And the offense with Satchell and DJ was explosive. I will even go as far as to say that if they didn't turn the ball over numerous times, SU would have proably blasted W&J  the following week and played MHB in the South Region championship game. But I will also tell you that when you turn the ball over against CUPCAKES DURING THE REGULAR SEASON you can still win and the turnovers will be soon forgot about. But when you turn the ball over in the playoffs and against a quality opponent you can expect to go home early.

But on another note let the trash talking begin I love playing good teams. Go CAPTINS and no matter what the other SU sucks and I don't care if they are 3-1 against us in the last 4 years.
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Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 11, 2005, 09:22:59 AM
cnufinest-
    I also give credit where credit is due...you are right...you guys came into our house and put us in our place...now if that doesn't light a fire unders the a##es of all of our players I don't know what does....And for the record, lets get off this cupcake schedule of years ago...you play in the USA South...that is like playing in the Sun Belt Conference...but you get an AQ and no body says anything...you did pick up Rowan and McDaniel instead of playing us...who cares...but this is 2005.  I see that CNU got to stomp someones face in the mud yesterday...I hope they are feeling good...on the other hand...Salisbury had their hands full with a good Brockport team that was playing on their turf but did what all good teams do...find a way to win.

    So I got the go ahead for the trash talking to start...well Captains...after giving up 609 yds to Rowan your defense is in for a trackmeet.  The tough comment had nothing to do with your record...it is how you played...when players whine all game about being held...not tough....when players look like they just had their dog die by the second quarter...not tough...BUT...this is the way I would describe CNU...It must be something their coach instills...anyhow...on Saturday when the Seagulls line up...crack each of those players in the front seven(or eight) right in the mouth and they start crying...we will see who the tough team is and who the top 10 team in the country is. My boy Dustin Johnson is planning what is known as a field day on that makeshift defense...it is going to be an eye opener for the rest of the country...cause if you don't know about the gullls now you will know...score prediction...

Salisbury 44 CNU 17

BOYS, IF THIS GAME DOESN'T GIVE YOU A HARD ON YOU JUST MIGHT NOT HAVE A PULSE...GET RIGHT THIS WEEK AND BALL UP SEAGULL STYLE

#56

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 11, 2005, 11:33:19 AM
   Today's Wesley game  shows why the USA SOUTH won't invite the Wolverines for football only!!!! Congrats to the Builders. I have been watching them for ten years and they have always had some great athletes. Looks like some of them stuck around for more than a year!!
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Post by: acfcposter on September 11, 2005, 08:05:36 PM
Big congratulations to Salisbury, Newport News and Wesley! On the same note what a dissappointment Frostburg has become!! This team used to be the class of the ACFC and now they are going to be in the cellar. If our conference is going to grow and gain national respect, then we have to be good from the top to the bottom. It is obvious that Frostburg needs to change something. Maybe they need to bring back the old OC, Eric Day, because they have not been able to score since the new guy came in.
As far as Salisbury is concerned, I really believe that we will look back at the end of the year and say that this was the turning point for them in the season. I know that the season is very young, but for them to come back from that far back in a tough place to play like Brockport, that really says something about the character of those kids. Also, hats off to Coach Sherman Wood and his staff for making the adjustments at the half!
Brockport might be the best 0-2 team in the nation. I have no doubt that Rocco will have them back on track very soon.
Wesley looks really strong and as long as they stay focused, they will contend for the ACFC crown. It looks like the champoinship will be decided when they play Salisbury this year. What a great game that is going to be!
Finally, here are the predictions for this week:

Brockport 28  Newport News 14
Wesley 24  Buff State 17
Montclair 31 Frostburg 10
Salisbury 38  Christopher Newport 24

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 12, 2005, 10:54:42 AM
Congratulations to Salisbury, Wesley, and NNA on the wins this past week.  I don't know if it was the long trip that caused the Gulls the poor start, or what? but I'm glad they 'righted" the ship in time to pull off a win.

The trip to CNU this weekend won't be as long, so I hoping the Gulls have a great start and exact revenge for last year's playoff loss to the Captains.

Wesley is looking strong offensively, and NNA is 2-0 !!!!

Time for the Salisbury/CNU talk to begin.  Thanks for your support Uncle Jessie from Shenandoah.  I hope we can accomodate your wish to beat CNWHO.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 12, 2005, 10:57:30 AM
Dr. Seagull:

Do you know if DeHaven made it to the game?  I would interested to know how many Gull fans made the trek to Brockport?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Knightstalker on September 12, 2005, 12:36:25 PM
I have to agree with Dr. Seagull on this one.  CNU better be well prepared on defense against Salisbury, if not Johnson will eat them alive.  He put up 126 and 2 td's running and 126 and 2 td's passing on Saturday, as I understand.  With all the yards that they gave up to Rowan defense has to be a big concern this year.  CNU has done a remarkable job in fielding a strong competitive team in just a few years since inception but they have to now step up another notch and start beating the Rowans and Salisbury's on their schedule.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 12, 2005, 12:45:23 PM
Knightstalker:

I hope Salisbury gets off to a quick start and continues to builds on their momentum.  I'm also hoping that the guys remember last years playoff loss to the Captains and are looking to return the favor at Pocomo stadium.

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Post by: rams1102 on September 12, 2005, 01:15:08 PM
Frostburg always plays Montclair tough. We are in a rebuilding year. We will get better every game and hope to be ready for conference play on 10-1. MSU-20  Frostburg-10. Then we play the Gulls the following week. The Gulls sound like a real handfull.

LET'S  GO  MIGHTY  RED  HAWKS  !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: njlincolnlion on September 12, 2005, 01:57:03 PM
Dustin Johnson got some "Pub" under today's lead article "Statistical Spotlight".  Four Touchdown (2 passing for 126 yds. and 2 rushing for 126 yards) are impressive.

I think this week Leroy Satchell along with DJ are going to charge through CNU's defense.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 12, 2005, 02:43:55 PM
nnasid:

Thanks for your blog to d3Football giving them DJ's stats.  Your support for the ACFC is great.  Good luck to the Builders this weekend with Brockport.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: narch on September 12, 2005, 03:03:28 PM
pa_wesleyfan
QuoteToday's Wesley game  shows why the USA SOUTH won't invite the Wolverines for football only!!!! Congrats to the Builders. I have been watching them for ten years and they have always had some great athletes. Looks like some of them stuck around for more than a year!!

congrats on the win...wesley is a very good team from everything i hear, but the usasac doesn't need another team, especially a football only team - there are now 7 football playing teams in the conference - i sincerely doubt the strength of wesley's football program (as measured against a bottom tier usasac team missing one of it's best players, i might add) has anything to do with the decision, either

ssu vs. cnu should be a very interesting...cnu has played 2 very different games against 2 very different teams - i think cnu's defense is better than how they played against rowan, but they will have their hands full - dj and co. are VERY tough to stop - if i were a cnu fan, i'd be concerned with how the cnu offense has played (not very well), particularly the way the capts. have struggled to run the ball early in the season - despite scoring 53 points last week, they only gained 271 total yards against maryville
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 12, 2005, 03:24:25 PM
Narch:

Good analysis on the Rowan/CNU matchup.  Rowan's primary running weapon Ulysees Encarnacion (#3) ran rough shod thru CNU.  Encarnacion has really developed into a good running back.  I saw him play a few times in high school and he was pretty tough then, but somewhat raw.  The Rowan football program has developed a pretty good RB in this kid.

Back to the Salisbury/CNU matchup.  If CNU had difficulty stopping one running back, how are the gona stop both DJ and Leroy?  Additionally, Salisbury has some decent WR's that DJ can roll out and hit to take pressure off the running game.  The gulls will miss DeHaven, but their Defense is still intact.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 12, 2005, 03:37:51 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 12, 2005, 02:43:55 PM
nnasid:

Thanks for your blog to d3Football giving them DJ's stats.  Your support for the ACFC is great.  Good luck to the Builders this weekend with Brockport.


Not a problem....what a conference SID is supposed to do.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 12, 2005, 03:56:36 PM
Pat Coleman and Gordon Mann:

Any chance of you guys going to the Salisbury/CNU game this weekend for reports and photos?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2005, 04:00:53 PM
Not me, unfortunately.

Gordon covers another school on a weekly basis and joins me for Game of the Week when he can during the regular season and covers playoff games and the like. I have to be at home or near home for the next two weekends, so my travel is limited. CNU is a little out of my range right now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 12, 2005, 04:05:12 PM
Pat:

Hopefully Salisbury makes the playoffs again this year and move past the first round, and we get to see you guys.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2005, 04:10:38 PM
I haven't ruled out the Wesley game.
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 12, 2005, 05:09:11 PM
Pat

  I am going to the Wesley game this week. But I won't get back here until after midnight!! Sorry the Downs is right on my route!!!
  I will let you know the progression of Mr. Warrick and how fast Beavers is. My opinion is this,  If Warrick pushed himself and improved his running speed and elusiveness like Visconti did he may well break Visconti's records and lead Wesley to the playoffs. One nice thing about not having a kid playing is being able to be more objective.

  Narch
There was talk about Wesley joining the U.S.A. south two years ago and a few posters here said Wesley was not asked because of they weren't academically on a par with other school in the conference. Actually Wesley would have
been ranked second academically.
  And as far as Wesley not getting in as a football only school,  You are correct. If they had gone with a few football only schools Wesley probably would have been included. The travel for other sports would be prohibitive.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Swish3 on September 12, 2005, 08:48:36 PM
The song Dr. Seagull currently has in his cd player:

And I ran, I ran so far away
I just ran, I ran all night and day
I couldn't get away

GO CAPS!
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Post by: theone on September 12, 2005, 09:07:20 PM
im really excited about the CNU and SU game. This will really show what the GULLS are all about this year. Wesley looks really good this year. Beavers is by far the fastest player that the school has ever seen. He just blows by people. The scary thing about the wolverine recieving corp is that it Lanouette and Gore hasnt began to shine yet and they are two very good recievers. Not as fast as beavers and lee, but definitly sure catches. Another thing is the the running game hasnt even clicked yet. Its great to see Beavers and LEE shine for the corp. This recieving coprs reminds me of the year when visconti had Able, Wright, Choidi, Lowe, and Cosby. Heres an interesting question i would like to put out there. When wesley plays salisbury...is westbrook now going to have to play beavers. If he does...what do you do with the rest of the recieving corp?!?!?! I cant wait for that game. Wesley looks really explosive this year and i think it will be a shootout with them and salisbury. Just a question to put out there. ;)

Wesley 35
Buffalo State 14

Salisbury 35
CNU 33

Brockport 24
Apprentice 14

FSU 10
Montclair 35
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: narch on September 12, 2005, 10:48:27 PM
pa_wesleyfan
QuoteActually Wesley would have
been ranked second academically.

how would this have been determined? graduation rate? retention rate? avg. gpa? avg. sat?...not trying to be smart, just wondering by whom and how they would have been ranked...

swish - nice to see you on the acfc board...why don't you join us for some discussion on the usasac board...i'd love to get your take on the points i have made re: cnu's "offensive struggles" in a 53-2 route (only 89 yards on 34 plays from the first team offense, but 3 td's and 2 fg's on the scoreboard)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 13, 2005, 10:01:27 AM
Didn't we have the whole academic rankings discussion last year and get nowhere with it?  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 13, 2005, 06:51:41 PM
luv
I promise to not bring it up again !!!! UNless provoked!! Then again look where that got my Eagles last nite!!!!

  I am looking foward to Oct 29 match up. But there is way to much football before that so we will leave that til then.

Narch
I don't know how or really care how they determined any of it. I was just replying to the bashers is all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 13, 2005, 11:48:37 PM
The talk about Wesley joining the USAC would had been alot better I belive than having Maryville in TN. joining. Not sure on the actual milage but it has to be closer to more schools than Maryville is. By the way Gulls 31-20 on Saturday over CNWHO!!

some guys on here think you should cheer for a team that is playing another just because they are in the same conf. as your fav. team is in. I say would a Redsox fan cheer on the Yanks in the world series?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2005, 12:06:24 AM
A Red Sox fan wouldn't likely cheer for the Yankees, but they wouldn't have anything to gain by the Yankees winning.

What a Shenandoah fan has to gain by CNU beating Salisbury is increased respect for the conference, a higher Quality of Wins (formerly SOS) rating, etc.

College sports is your group of 8-10 against several hundred. Baseball is your group of 14 against their 16 or vice/versa. It's not really comparable.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 14, 2005, 12:20:22 AM
I rather cheer for a  Ferrum or Averett team for respect for the conf. than a state school in the USAC full of private schools. Plus I grew up in Maryland. GO SALISBURY ALL THE WAY THIS WEEK!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 14, 2005, 12:29:51 AM
changed my mind. Salisbury 42 - Cnwho 0!!!! ALL THE WAY GULLS!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 14, 2005, 02:03:17 AM
Thanks Pat. And you wonder why we like to rub it in their faces that we are better than the rest in our conference. Our conference hates CNU's football because we got good really fast. Last time I checked teams really didn't have a problem beating of our men's basketball team or baseball team in the last few seasons. Especially when you look at how many players you really need to produce a dominant basketball team compared to a dominant football team. But oh well hate it or love it we are on top. And believe it or not that very little talk about the poor kids who can only afford a public eduacation, use that as motivation in preparation for the season.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 14, 2005, 09:56:23 AM
cnufinest:

JT over in the USA South board, had a bit of tongue in cheek humor, with his pictures from the Rowan game.  Salisbury has a two-headed monster with DJ and Satchell vs. Encarnacion.  Additionally the Sea Gulls defense is going to feast if CNU gets out the gate slow.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 14, 2005, 02:33:57 PM
CNUfinest,

What is your take on the Salisbury-CNU game this weekend? I think it's going to be a tight game, and the home field advantage might help CNU to a victory. Very close to call though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 14, 2005, 03:11:58 PM
Luv:

I'd like to hear cnufinest take on the game also.  Some of the pundits on the USA South site metions Salisbury's turnover troubles as well as home field advantage make CNU the favorite to win.  If I recall CNU was home and lost to  Rowan won by 7 points.  Granted it was the season opener, but the visiting team won.  I'm not going to say Salisbury will be turnover free, but I can't believe they would have another seven turnover game.  I gotta believe Coach Woods pulled out the film from last year's lost to CNU and will drill into the guys heads the cost of turnovers.

I like Salisbury in a close one.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 14, 2005, 03:57:21 PM
Hopefully, the weather won't be a factor for Salisbury/CNU.  Ophelia or her remnants will occur in Newport News tomorrow.  I'm guessing CNU will have the tarp down at POMOCO, since a dry field favors the passing team more than the running game.

Extended forecast for Saturday calls for partly cloudy and a 30 percent chance of precipatation.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 14, 2005, 07:41:04 PM
I have mixed feelings about the game. CNU lost a lot to graduation and SU is still pretty much intact. Home field is an advantage because after the first two seasons we have been pretty tough to beat at Pomoco. If the d line can grow up for 4 quarters and play like 20-21 year olds instead of 18-19 year olds then I like our chances. To me Satchell is the key to the game and not DJ. CNU has prided ourselves on having multi task fast defensive ends. And our overall team speed will also give us a much better chance of surrounding a very nimble but very light weight DJ. Satchell on the other hand is a GROWN MAN. He has tremendous speed and power that allows him to break tackles and then pull away from defenders as he did on the apparent game winning run in the 4th quater of last years playoff game.  If CNU interior tackles can get a good push up front so he can't take his dives at full steam and let the 3 stud CNU LB's play down hill then we can control SU ground attack.  As far as CNU's offense goes the skill players need to step up and simply put the ball in the endzone. I don't care how they do it but they just need to get it done. The o line does need to step up but a 3 or 5 step pass offense with the talent we have at receiver should be able to  put numbers up on any defense. Last year SU had by far the best defense we faced all season. I know they lost their stud LB Dehaven and another LB so im thinking the rest of the unit is still pretty much intact.  As far as the weather factor, personally I believe that it would strongly favor CNU because of SU fumble problems on good weather days in the past.

On another note CNU and SU have turned into a pretty good rivalry with a ton of spice added on because they beat CNU twice and CNU returned the favor in a big way with the playoff win over a very talented SU team last year. One reason why I enjoy it so much is because even though we hate each other and we give each other major crap on the message board. Thru the three games I have played against them I have not seen any dirty play on the field by either team win or loose.  Its amazing how far along these teams have come since 01. Both teams where nobodies then but are featured as a game to watch in 05.

Good luck to both teams but Dr. Seagull will have to operate on his birds after we pluck em. I don't have a prediction score but a W anyway I can get it will allow me to talk all the trash I want.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 14, 2005, 07:46:06 PM
does anyone have a prediction on the buff state wesley game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 14, 2005, 09:02:38 PM
   Family Day..  Which means a huge crowd..First home game for Wesley. About an 7 to 8 hr. bus ride for Buff. St. I like Wesley by 17.
   But!!!!!! If Ophelia is still around the wind  at Wesley field will be a big factor!!! Almost always blows across the field from side line to side line. So Wesley will have to run the ball if that happens. And they haven't seemed to find that part of their game yet... That being said Nelson is due to Break out.
    And I am going to the game!!!! Take 3 to 6 pts., away for that !!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 15, 2005, 09:39:41 AM
cnusfinest:

Thanks for the response.  I agree with you and have posted previously, that I believe Satchell will be the key to the game, and to a lesser extent, Salisbury improved (from last year) passing game.

I too enjoy the "spirited" and clean contests between the two teams, and hope that the contests become an annual event (schedule permitting).

Good luck to the Captains for a successful season except for Saturday  ;D.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 15, 2005, 10:29:04 AM
luv:

Any ifo and/or updates from the Sea Gulls camp?  There seems to be very little talk, so I hope Coach Woods has the troops focused for battle at CNU.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 15, 2005, 11:35:58 PM
Actually, it has been very quite for a game of this magnitude. I guess Coach Woods is trying to get the team to focus on the game and not any of the media crap or public opinion at this point. I know the students are excited about it, but the Salisbury coaches haven't said much that I know of.  :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 16, 2005, 10:32:27 AM
Hey Luv:

Do you think there will be alot of SU students going to Newport News this weekend?  This seems like the type of game Dr. Seagull might show up at.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 16, 2005, 12:43:11 PM
]News Flash !


SU named 15th most fit college in the US according to Men's Fitness Magazine.  Let's hope that fitness translates into a win at CNU tomorrow !

www.mensfitness.com/college_rankings/53

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 16, 2005, 01:24:31 PM
Bad link :-[
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 16, 2005, 01:25:50 PM
Change the w to an e for mensfitness and you'll probably have a better shot. Just a typo.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: narch on September 16, 2005, 01:46:33 PM
my take on ssu vs. cnu (for those who care)

ssu lost some stud lb's, but the mc coaches raved about the seagull d-line...cnu fans have talked about the capt. o-line needing to gel...they better do so quickly - cnu fans can spin it all they want, but the cnu offense hasn't been great the first 2 games...the first team produced just 89 yards on 34 plays vs. a bad m'ville team - the running game for cnu has been pretty much non-existent (1.6 ypc...just 17 yards vs. rowan and only 2.2 ypc and 100 yards vs. m'ville) - this does not portend well for the capts.

cnusfinest alluded to 3 and 5 step drops, which will probably be necessary - ssu has some talent at the db positions, but i'm not sure they've played so well yet this season - i think cnu's wr depth will hurt ssu...they've got 3 or 4 really good wr's - right now, ssu's defensive weakness is at lb...not necessarily because they aren't good, but they aren't AS GOOD as the ones before them - i would expect cnu to try to exploit those lb's with the short passing game to slot receivers and rb's out of the backfield - a guy like g. jones could be VERY dangerous...he's played as a rb, but he's listed as a wr...he could present real match-up problems, especially if he lines up in the backfield and goes in motion and a lb follows him in coverage

cnu fans have also talked about the d-line as a relative weakness - they will have to step up and keep the ssu o-line off the cnu lb's - cnu's lb's are VERY good and will make running room tough on dj and satchell - the cnu defense allowed rowan to put up 600+ yards, and most were through the air (something ssu doesn't do well), but rowan did average almost 4 ypc against them - 4 ypc moves the chains

this should be a great game and a good measure for both teams - ssu has overcome slow starts in both games to win going away - cnu kept the rowan game close despite defensive lapses and blew out an overmatched m'ville team mostly on the strength of defensive td's and playing on a very short field

i predict a shoot-out and ssu winning 37-36...wish i could be there (esp. since the monarchs are off this week)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 16, 2005, 02:29:29 PM
Pat:

Thanks for the help! I need to do a better job of proofing my posts.  :-[

www.mensfitness.com/college_rankings/53

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 16, 2005, 02:38:37 PM
narch:

Great overview! Salisbury lost LB DeHave to graduation, but they have a guy (Brooks Moser) who played well as a freshman, sat out a year and has returned.  Granted, Moser is not going to make you forget DeHaven, but he's a solid player, who knows Coach Woods' system.

I still think Satchell will be key.  If CNU stops DJ outside, Satchell will eat them up on the inside.  They'll have to pick their poison  :-\. 

I also pick Salisbury in a close one.  The home field advantage may be negated by Salisbury's revenge factor.  Should be an excellent game.  Let's hope officiating does not determine the outcome.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: narch on September 16, 2005, 02:50:22 PM
QuoteLet's hope officiating does not determine the outcome

it NEVER does...that's just an excuse for whining fans :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 16, 2005, 02:55:52 PM
narch:

For two nationally ranked teams playing each other, why do you think there is not enough discussion(s)?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 16, 2005, 03:00:30 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 16, 2005, 03:08:19 PM
12x:

No problem!  sorry about the earlier typo. 

It's really wild in this statistically driven world that "Fittest and Fattest" colleges are ranked. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 16, 2005, 04:33:50 PM
I think there will be a lot of Salisbury people representing the school at CNU. CNU isnt all that far away, so I think there will be some Sea Gulls in the crowd making some noise.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 08:11:50 AM
Hey luv:

I love that avitar. 

Today is the day...... Go Gulls, have a turnover free game and do Salisbury proud!!!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 08:15:16 AM
cnusfinest:

I saw your post over on the USA South Board, and I agree that there is a tremendous amount of respect between the two programs.  Here's to a good hard fought, fairly refereed, game with no injuries.  Go Gulls!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 17, 2005, 10:45:15 AM
Big game this week for both teams but let me break it down like this...
Salisbury comes into this game with a lot to prove...they lost on their homefield last year in the playoffs to this CNU team...they have beefed up their schedule and this game is the marquee...with all this being said it is now or never for these seniors...I look to DJ and Brett Whenert on the offense and Andrew Demming on the defense to step into the huddles and let all 11 on the field at all times know what it takes and to go 100% every play...these three play with the "I don't give a f###, we refuse to lose attitude" and this is their final stage.
Therefore, I am calling them out to bring everyone on the team through with a win...both teams are talented, but this game is going to go to whoever wants it more...usually I pick the gulls in a blowout...but today it is going to be two high caliber teams trying to turn that corner to being a mainstay in the Top 10 programs in the country...Its there, now lets see who is going to go and get it...I like(putting my beak on) Salisbury by a field goal 27-24...This is the last group of kids that I played with and they know how to win...and refuse to lose...back when I was a freshman a group of kids and coaches decided to start winning and busting it 110%...this attitude is contagious and when that group of men left 4 years later...these boys aren't only coached up on football but how to win and what it takes

SALISBURY 27 CNwho 24

BOYS,BRING THE DICK...AND REPRESENT...YOU GET ONE SHOT...DO WHAT YOU DO...AND DEMMING...LIKE LAST WEEK...LAY THAT HELMET AT THE FIFTY FOR SEAGULL JACKS CAUSE THIS IS OUR FIELD TODAY
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 17, 2005, 02:44:36 PM
NNA SID, it was nice to hear you on the halftime show.. Nice of you to spend some time with some of my old point colleagues.  14-7 Brockport at the half, a good fight going on down there in Virginia!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 17, 2005, 02:53:49 PM
By the way, Pat, Am I ever going to get the posts back that I had before the message board changeover!  :P
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 17, 2005, 03:45:19 PM
Salisbury 34, CNU 10 in the 3rd quarter
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 17, 2005, 03:52:47 PM
Brockport defeats NNA 14-7...No scoring in the 2nd half.  The NNA defense played well, Brockport continues it's lackluster play on Offense.  Special Teams has continued to be the best part of the golden eagles with some good returns...

A Lackluster game but a win nonetheless...reeks of the 10 hour bus ride...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 17, 2005, 04:15:42 PM
Brian Wise
121 yards in returns
6 catches-42 yards
10 carries 71 yards

(1 hour driving the bus....1/2 hour finding food for pregame.....:)

Great game...we put the ball down 5 times...you dont win against anyone doing that...and still it was down to the last 2 minutes...a lot better than last year.

bport...enjoyed being on with your buddies.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 17, 2005, 04:20:36 PM
Well I wish your team luck the rest of the season!!  Hopefully you can knock off one of the big Dogs Salisbury or Wesley!!  Salisbury looking nasty today winning 34-10 last I knew!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 17, 2005, 04:20:48 PM
Salisbury 41

CNU 24

with 4:00 to go
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 17, 2005, 04:27:21 PM
CNU scored two quick touchdowns, one on a kickoff return and one on a blocked punt to make the game closer.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 17, 2005, 04:29:41 PM
Final:

Salisbury 44

CNU 24
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 17, 2005, 04:30:00 PM
Congratulations to the Gulls beating the who. Big, big win!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 17, 2005, 04:42:25 PM
Ahh, revenge is bittersweet. CNU played the game SU played in the playoffs last year with the turnovers. That was the big difference. Congrats on a great win!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 17, 2005, 04:51:10 PM
Way to go Gulls!  Not many people thought they would come away undefeated after these two, tough road games.  The Gulls had 404 yards rushing today, about 197 for DJ.  I can't wait to see Montclair State next week.  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 17, 2005, 04:57:10 PM
Wesley 45, Buff State 9
Brockport 14, NNA 7
Salisbury 44, CNU 24
Frostburg 17, Montclair State 14
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 17, 2005, 05:00:28 PM
Montclair is not looking good this year.  Theoretically, Salisbury should be able to run all over them in the game...probably shouldn't be close.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: cats05 on September 17, 2005, 05:45:16 PM
For a certain few of you on this board (and you know who you are), a young FSU team played with heart today. Some of you say that Montclair is down, so what, Montclair is Montclair from a tough conference. For all you that predicted a 35-10 thumpin you are wrong. Coach Stevenson has an excellent group of young men who played their hearts out in all aspects of the game. Burg out!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 17, 2005, 06:07:39 PM
You Certainly got defensive there...Montclair is down...whether they are in a good conference or not...Brockport is down as well...what's your point?  I never even referred to Frostburg in the Post...Actually I was writing the post before the score was even posted, and I had no idea what happened in that game...

As For Frostburg, after losing to NNA 21-3, you have a lot to prove in the conference...but it could start next week!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 06:27:58 PM
Statement win for Salisbury.  Stay focus and take one game at a time.  I actually thought the score would be closer.  Can someone supply some stats. Did Salisbury have any turnovers? and if so how many?

narch and uncle  jessie over on the USA South board were the only ones prdicting a Sea Gull win.

Now it's on to Montclair State at home next week.  Fear the Bird !!!!!!

Salisbury 44    CNU  24

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 17, 2005, 06:28:57 PM
nice win by FSU.....Culbert blocks game-tying FG with 5 seconds left.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 06:45:11 PM
Hey luv:

How many turnovers did CNU have?  Leading up to the game the turnover conversations were about Salisbury.  I believe one poster mentioned that the Gulls had seven turnovers in the first two games.

The win today gives Salisbury a 3-2 edge in the series.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 07:00:44 PM
Salisbury 404 yards rushing on 53 attempts.   DJ finished with 197 yards on 20 carries and Satchell had 107 on 16 carries,  DJ was also 6 for 11 and 40 yards passing.  DJ started the scoring in the first quarter with a 73 yard touchdown run.  It seems like the option was unstoppable today.

Got the info off the CNU website.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 17, 2005, 07:01:25 PM
3-1 lion
salisbury leads series 3-1 now
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 17, 2005, 07:04:51 PM
Here is the Box Score:

http://www.salisbury.edu/athletics/football/Boxes2005/SALFB-03.asp
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 07:08:01 PM
nnasid:

I stand corrected  :-[....... , you are right, Salisbury leads the series 3-1 with CNU.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 07:14:48 PM
Thanks 12x for the link to the stats.  When I initially logged on, the information was not available.  According to the stats, CNU had 7 turnovers, 4 INT's for 58 yds and 3 fumbles.  Salisbury didn't have any turnovers?  Looks like a a reversal of last years playoff game to an extent.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 17, 2005, 07:27:27 PM
No problem ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 07:31:45 PM
There were some comments earlier in the week regarding Salisbury LB's.  I see Brooks Moser, who I called out in an earlier post had two sacks.  I see the Gulls continuing to build.

On another note when is Wesley going to get some consideration for rankings?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 17, 2005, 08:17:54 PM
They are being considered...they did receive some votes in last weeks poll...I am not sure a win against Buffalo State will necessarily get them in the top 25 though
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 08:33:19 PM
bport070782:

I see your point regarding the teams Wesley played.  They beat DePauw in Indiana week one and Averett ? from the USA South week two.  I really haven't followed Averett, so I don't know where they are "positioned" in the USA South, but DePauw usually fields some good teams.  Your comment about Buff State is well taken.  The Bengals aren't doing well in the ACFC, so you can imagine what's going to happen to them next year in the NJAC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 08:49:42 PM
Salisbury LB's played a good game today.  McCray had an 29 yd INT for a TD and as previously mentioned, Moser had two sacks.  Out of the starting LB's McCray is a senior and Mose and Leinemann are juniors.  Overall the Sea Gulls has a very sound defense.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 17, 2005, 08:50:30 PM
I think CNU had 3 fumbles and 4 interceptions...something like that anyway. They are lucky the score wasnt worse than that with so many turnovers.

Tough loss for Newport today, I actually wanted to see them knock off Brockport state. I stand corrected on my pick for that game. Wesley looked tough overall, but I guess anyone can when playing Buffalo St!


And wasting no time for next week, here is what I see happening for the 27th

Newport 21 Chowan 14
Frostburg State 21 Brockport  20
Cortland State 17 Buffalo State 0
Salisbury 28 Montclair State 10
Wesley 24 Kean 12

On another note, did anybody happen to see Clemson coach Tommy Bowden tonight after they lost in  overtime to Miami loss? I don't think I have ever seen a coach so stunned in my life.  :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 08:59:09 PM
luv:

You don't think Salisbury will score more than 28 points at home aganist Montclair State? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 17, 2005, 09:10:37 PM
I like to give Montclair St. the benefit of the doubt. When you start putting these high scores down for blowout games, people start to think you are arogant. They have a good shot at scoring more than 28, but 28 is a nice safe round number. I could put down Salisbury 54, Montclair 0, and Salisbury could only win by 6 points....then I look like a chump. So it is always better to give a lopsided score, but not one that is totally insulting to everyone. (That is unless they have fans who are jerks that come into our posting area from out of conference and start bragging about how bad they will beat one of our teams, then I go ahead and let the trash talking begin  >:()
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 17, 2005, 09:30:29 PM
Luv. The SU offense is still pretty much intact but im sorry your boys are missing Dehaven and a few others from last year. The CNU offense only scored 10 points but they actually moved the ball pretty well against your D. When the right running plays where called they worked for good yardage and like I stated earlier in the week the 3-5 step drop passing worked really well from time to time.  Like SU  from last year the turnovers really killed some potential scores that could have maybe changed the game. It was a good day for the Gulls but they will have to fix that pass D especially when playoff time comes around.

Dr. Seagull got his win and SU is 3-1 against CNU but nothing will erase that bad taste out of the Seagull faithful mouth after that playoff loss.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 09:43:31 PM
cnusfinest:

Last year's playoff loss still hurts, but fortunately it was last year and so far we've learned from it.   :'(

I don't think the Gulls pass defense is all that bad, LB McCray had an interception for a TD today and Moser had two sacks.  Moser saw considerable playing time as a freshman and took a year off and knows Coach Woods system.  Salisbury has an All American in Westbrook in the defensive backfield.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 17, 2005, 10:11:04 PM
went to wesley game today. defence line for wesley played extremely well. sorry but they ran out of programs so i can't give you names. but buff st. has a great receiver in #1. he had  three diving catches that kept a few of buff.st. drives going. lanouette for wesley may be lost for season , got blocked on an interception and he was taken off on a cart. there were 4 knee injuries today. warrick didn't have a great day. 4 int's on plays he tried to force the ball in. wesley special teams played very well also   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 18, 2005, 09:28:15 AM
Big win for the gulls yesterday...but it is time to get back to the drawing board and get better for next week...I give credit to CNU...we and everyone else seems to be gunning for them...when you are good teams do that...now the gulls have that big red bullseye on there jerseys...every team from here on out is going to be gunning for us...get better and improve...offense and defense both played well yesterday but the special teams were aweful...that is usually what Salisbury prides itself on...get better...offense...in the fourth quarter...gotta get that killer instinct and sustain an 8-12 play drive...these 3 and outs...can't have 'em...overall...great effort...picks for this week...
Brockport 21 FSU 10
NNA 35 Chowan 3
Cortland 30 Buffalo 7
Salisbury 48 Montclair 20

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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 18, 2005, 09:28:51 AM
oh yah...Wesley 40 Kean 7

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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 18, 2005, 12:48:35 PM
Good job yesterday Gulls. For those that went to the game what would you say are some of the weakness of CNU this year. What should the fans of SU Hornets expect when they visit CNU in two weeks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 18, 2005, 08:56:55 PM
Big wins this past week for Salisbury and Frostburg! Although I don't believe that CNU or Montclair State are as good as they have been in the past, that does not take anything away from the victories. Also, another monster week for both Dustin Johnson (Salisbury) and Kevin Culbert (Frostburg). If both of these kids do not make All American, then there is something very wrong with the selection process. I really hope that the fact that Dustin does not throw for a ton of yards does not hurt him. Also, I hope that since Culbert does not play for a very good team, that he still gets recognized. The ACFC should be very proud to have these 2 student-athletes. Here are my predictions for this coming week:

Brockport 24 Frostburg 6
NNA 28 Chowan 10
Cortland 27 Buff St 13
Salisbury 41 Montclair 17
Wesley 49 Kean 13
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 19, 2005, 09:04:36 AM
acfcposter:

I agree with you on both DJ's and Culbert's play so far, that All American consideration should be looked at, however in the case of DJ, I feel the team would have to win or go very far in the playoffs.  Historically, option QB's are not given the same consideration as the classic drop back pocket passer.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 19, 2005, 10:17:55 AM
Good game by Frostburg to hold off Montclair State.  We need some FSU fans on board to get some "411" on Montclair. 

I live in North Jersey, but with the number of pro teams, in the area, college football plays "third fiddle to the NFL and even HS football in the papers.  That's not hard to comprehend when the lone D1 program is Rutgers New Brunswick.

I would imagine South Jersey football gets good coverage with the likes of Rowan, TCNJ etc.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 19, 2005, 10:53:05 AM
Will be monitoring the NJAC site this week to seek info about Montclair State from the likes of ACMob, Knightstalker, JT et al.

The Gulls can't afford to take any team for granted.  As Dr. Seagull mentioned, Salisbury will have a big red target on them as long as they keep winning.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 19, 2005, 11:12:32 AM
rams1102:

Got any info you would care to share about your "Mighty Red Hawks"?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 19, 2005, 11:12:53 AM
We don't have any fans at all it seems for Buffalo St or Newport (besides NNASid). I wish the ACFC was more popular than with the same people we always have posting here.

I wouldnt worry too much about those boys from the NJAC feeling confident with Montclair State pulling out the win over Salisbury. Salisbury is heavily favored, and should win by a large margin. But, I have been wrong before  :-X
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 19, 2005, 11:18:19 AM
luv:

The special teams needs to be addressed during the week.  Historically Salisbury prides itself on special teams, but, the stats from the CNU game indicated problems.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: narch on September 19, 2005, 02:36:39 PM
njlincolnlion -
Quotein the case of DJ, I feel the team would have to win or go very far in the playoffs.  Historically, option QB's are not given the same consideration as the classic drop back pocket passer.

maybe he should be nominated as a rb :) - after 3 games he has 460 yards rushing, 4 td's and is averaging 153.3 ypg and 7.5 ypc - if those numbers were to hold up, he might be one of the best rb's in the country as a qb
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 19, 2005, 03:00:33 PM
narch:

You bring up a good point with regards to DJ's stats as a running back All American, but I don't see the voters leaning in that direction.  I think option QB's face the same issues as the old wish-bone QB's in that they played te position of QB, but they were basically another RB with limited passing ability.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2005, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: narch on September 19, 2005, 02:36:39 PMmaybe he should be nominated as a rb :) - after 3 games he has 460 yards rushing, 4 td's and is averaging 153.3 ypg and 7.5 ypc - if those numbers were to hold up, he might be one of the best rb's in the country as a qb

We are not afraid to name an option QB as an All-American, and in fact, we have named one to a running back position in the past.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 19, 2005, 04:40:49 PM
Pat:

That's good to know, that DJ has a shot as a running back,  I'm pretty sure Satchell's rushing will cut into DJ's stats, however it's because of Satchell being a threat that opens up some lanes for Johnson.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 19, 2005, 07:32:26 PM
I think that it would be a shame to nominate Dustin Johnson as a running back. Although, if it were the only way that he could make it, I would be in favor of the kid getting recognized. With that being said, I think that it would take something away from the selection. The kid plays QB, not RB! Even in the Dive/Option offense the difference between playng QB and RB are completely different. The QB in that offense has a ton of responsibilities that most people do not know of. It is not like he is just tucking the ball under his arm and running with it every play. He has to make decisions on each play depending on what defensive alignments are shown, in addition to what defenders are doing once the ball is snapped. Once again, let's not punish the kid for not playing in a 5 wide offense that throws the ball 60 times a game. Also, let's not put him on the team in a position that he does not even play! How fair is that for other RB's in the nation when they see a QB is getting credit for a position that they played? Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: narch on September 19, 2005, 08:38:55 PM
guys...i would never REALLY suggest that dj be nominated as a rb...that's what the :) was for - the kid is a qb and in the offense ssu runs, he has WAY more responsibilities than any other offensive player...from pre-snap reads, to post snap reads and then deciding when to pitch (or whether to pitch) - the one SLIGHT criticism for dj is that he sometimes keeps the ball when the reads tell him otherwise...but he can get away with that because of his tremendous athleticism - he's a qb, plain and simple, and my suggestion was PURELY in jest
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 20, 2005, 08:53:38 AM
wesleypafan:

Any word on WR Lanouette's injury?  Hopefully, he's OK.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 20, 2005, 09:17:00 AM
Congratulations to Dustin Johnson for winning the ACFC offensive POW.  This is the second time in three weeks that DJ has won this award.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 20, 2005, 11:13:41 AM
New AFCA poll has Salisbury ranked #16.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 20, 2005, 11:29:36 AM
http://www.afca.com/lev3.cfm/1084
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 20, 2005, 12:34:33 PM
12x:

Thanks for the AFCA link.  I don't get it.  Salisbury is 16th in coaches poll and 10th in d3 poll.  Personally, I favor the d3 poll.  Coaches has Wheaton 9th and d3 has them 20th.  I think the coaches are more inclined to go on reputation than current statistics.  Just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 20, 2005, 12:50:08 PM
No problem.

I was surprised at the lower ranking as well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 20, 2005, 01:05:41 PM
12x:

I also believe d3 football guru's are more in-tuned to what is currently happening in division three football.  The coaches know a particuliar area and go on reputation.  That's why the bottom half of the coaches poll dosen't follow any "rhyme or reason".  Again, just my humble opinion.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2005, 01:55:41 PM
A couple years ago it was the other way around -- AFCA was giving Salisbury all the love it could handle and we had Salisbury peaking out at about #26. History proved us right then.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 20, 2005, 02:15:03 PM
Pat:

Let's hope history continues to prove you right!  I just don't understand how the coaches could have Wheaton all that high?  Oh well we will see who's right at the season's end.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 20, 2005, 06:36:25 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 20, 2005, 08:53:38 AM
wesleypafan:

Any word on WR Lanouette's injury? Hopefully, he's OK.

   I haven't read any thing about him yet. But It didn't look to good from the stands and they did use a cart to get him to the sidelines. Would be unfortunate if he misses the rest of the season. For a young player he knows how to get open and has real good hands. And if it is an ACL it's hard to say if he will get  back to that level again. It takes two years to really recover. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 20, 2005, 08:13:47 PM
lanouette is done for the season. What a blower for the wolverines. Now, Gore, Lee and Beavers have to really step up. I think the passing will still be good, but it kills the blocking, although Gore is an aggressive blocker for his size.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 20, 2005, 08:50:02 PM
theone:

What was the nature of lanouette's injury?  was it a fracture? ACL or what?  let's hope whatever injury it is, he can recouperate and is healthy for next year.  It's time for the team and coaches to rally around him and support his recovery.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 20, 2005, 09:46:09 PM
word is that lanouette tore his ACL and MCL.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 20, 2005, 10:20:32 PM
 
  I know first hand how supportive the Wesley family is.  They care about every kid that goes through those halls.
  I am sure the team will rally around him as they have when others have been injurd in the past.
  He will be missed on the offence thats' for sure
Maybe a diamond in the rough will step forward and turn some heads.
 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 21, 2005, 08:54:49 AM
PA_Wesleyfan & theone:

I hope Lanouette's rehabilitation goes well and that's he back with the Wolverines next year.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 21, 2005, 09:08:10 AM
ACFC Prediction time for week 4:

Salisbury over Montclair State
Brockport over Frostburg State
Newport News Apprentice over Chowan
Cortland State over Buffalo State
Wesley over Kean

Should be a good week for the ACFC O.O.C. games except for the Cortland State/Buffalo State.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 21, 2005, 10:25:55 AM
There is an AFCF Pick-Em forum up.  Better to start during week four than not start up at all  :-[


 
Go Sea Gulls
               
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 21, 2005, 10:32:17 AM
Make that an ACFC forum  :-[
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 21, 2005, 10:36:08 AM
Waiting to hear Bigtoe, luvapontiac, Dr. Seagull, acfcposter, theone, PA_Wesleyfan and other predictions

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 21, 2005, 10:38:29 AM
For all the Salisbury fans, rams1102 shared a little bit of info on Montclair State over on the NJAC board.

Hoping Coach Woods continues to have the team focused on one game at a time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 21, 2005, 11:37:57 AM
nnasid:

Not to get ahead, however are you planning on coming to Salisbury for the Sea Gulls/Builders game?  I'm planning on going down since it's homecoming and parents weekend?  Let me know what your travel plans are and perhaps we can hook up?

Being that's it's homecoming, who knows, pehaps Dr. Seagull will be there along with some of the other regular Gulls posters.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 21, 2005, 01:56:28 PM
My predictions are the same as yous nj ;D

Salisbury over Montclair State
Brockport over Frostburg State
Newport News Apprentice over Chowan
Cortland State over Buffalo State
Wesley over Kean
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 21, 2005, 02:14:54 PM
12x:

I have a suspicion that many of the predictions will look like ours.  Oh by the way there is a ACFC pick-em site that Pat wants game prediction posted on.  ;D

How did you like the article from the Newport News Daily Press on the Salisbury/CNU game?

                   
Go Sea Gulls !!!   
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 21, 2005, 02:17:21 PM
Yeah, I put my predictions up on Saturday after all the games were over, but I will post them again.

Newport 21 Chowan 14
Frostburg State 21 Brockport  20
Cortland State 17 Buffalo State 0
Salisbury 28 Montclair State 10
Wesley 24 Kean 12


Liked that article! CNU was very very critical of themselves...I like to hear a coach take responsibility when the team does not play well. There are some out there that blame their players only, but ultimatly the coach is the one who is responsible.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 21, 2005, 02:20:40 PM
luv:

I luv (no pun intended) your avitar   ;D.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 21, 2005, 03:24:42 PM
Yeah, I liked the article, very honest and accurate of what transpired.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 21, 2005, 03:25:58 PM
Maybe I'm blind, but where is the pick' em site? :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 21, 2005, 03:53:07 PM
12x

Go to "General Football" (under West Region Teams and  Conferences).

Click General Football, then click on Pick-Ems, etc. and then go to ACFC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 21, 2005, 07:04:01 PM
Thanks nj!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 21, 2005, 07:08:21 PM
Please don't post entire articles on the message board. It violates the paper's copyright.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 21, 2005, 07:58:29 PM
Found it , Thanks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 21, 2005, 08:26:06 PM
Thanks Pat, Will Do,
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 22, 2005, 07:29:48 AM
There is no way that Montclair will be able to play with Salisbury. In years past this would be different. But, if Montclair can't even beat Frostburg, then they have problems! I expect that Brockport will have no trouble this weekend. I believe that they have beaten Frostburg 5 years in a row. Rocco just seems to have Coach Stevenson's number. By the way, it is Coach Wood from Salisbury, not Coach Woods. Just an FYI.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 22, 2005, 09:00:59 AM
acfcposter:

Any predictions for this weekend games?  There is an ACFC Board to pick and/or predict games.


       
Go Gulls !!!     
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 22, 2005, 10:01:21 AM
Excellent article by Keith McMillan in "Around the Nation" on Salisbury Football titled "Sprinting to the Top".

Coach Wood and his staff has done a tremendous job bringing Salisbury Football back to respectability.  I sincerely hope that the current stability of the program will lend itself to continuous success and not fall off with the graduation of DJ, Satchell, Boland et al.

Again thank you Keith McMillan and the entire d3football site for your support and exposure of Salisbury Football.  :)

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 22, 2005, 11:56:17 AM
Dr. Seagull:

Are you planning on returning to the "U" for Homecoming/Parents weekend? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 22, 2005, 12:03:22 PM
I was surprised there was very little if anything written in the Daily Times about Salisbury's win last week over CNU  ???.  It seems historically, the Daily Times has been a big supporter of Salisbury Football, but they have waned a bit this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 22, 2005, 12:24:10 PM
JohnnyReb:

Are you providing fodder for the Wesley bulletin board?  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 22, 2005, 12:52:31 PM
QuoteI was surprised there was very little if anything written in the Daily Times about Salisbury's win last week over CNU  .  It seems historically, the Daily Times has been a big supporter of Salisbury Football, but they have waned a bit this year.

Yeah, they had a small article about the game on page three in Sunday's paper.

I assume they just take the story off the Associated Press wire(or some other  wire source) when Salisbury is on the road.

They have more informative articles when Salisbury has home games.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 22, 2005, 02:00:05 PM
JohnnyReb:

I'm pretty sure "PA_Wesley fan", and "theone" will be on the board to chit chat with you about Wesley.   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 22, 2005, 02:31:18 PM
If this kind of crap is all you have to offer then you won't be posting here much longer, JR.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 22, 2005, 03:47:28 PM
Pat:

The home page of d3football looks cool  8) !!! with the pics of Salisbury's Coach Wood and the Sea Gulls.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2005, 05:52:09 PM
  JohnnyReb

  Nu hu so there!!!!
Quote from: JohnnyReb on September 22, 2005, 02:17:53 PM
PA_Sissy_Fan and thelostone can talk all they want about Wesley, point is...Wesley is for patsies and they know this! Same goes for CNWho

Mwha Mwha Mwha!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2005, 05:58:41 PM
  This storm could really mess up some games down south.
Haven't looked to far ahead in schedules but games ay be tough to make up. Especially if the have long team water problems. Mom nature is sure giving the gulf what for.   
Quote from: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 22, 2005, 12:52:31 PM
QuoteI was surprised there was very little if anything written in the Daily Times about Salisbury's win last week over CNU . It seems historically, the Daily Times has been a big supporter of Salisbury Football, but they have waned a bit this year.

Yeah, they had a small article about the game on page three in Sunday's paper.

I assume they just take the story off the Associated Press wire(or some other wire source) when Salisbury is on the road.

They have more informative articles when Salisbury has home games.


They may have had to many articles to print. Have to make sure the ads get in there
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 22, 2005, 11:37:56 PM
I think the Daily Times is just too cheap to send someone to a road game.
It will be good to see the Gulls back home for the next four weeks straight!  At the beginning of the year I thought if they could come through these first four games with one loss, that would be pretty good.  Now hopefully they will win all four and should be in good shape until the Wesley game, which is always tough.
My prediction for Saturday is Salisbury 38, Montclair 21.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 09:04:49 AM
PA_wesleyfan:

I hear ya on the ad/classified priorities with the Daily Times as it relates to articles.  I would also venture to guess the Daily Times like all newspapers and magazines would focus more on negative stories than sports and/or "feel good" articles.

On another note, I think Pat may have taken care of your buddy JohnnReb  ;D.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 09:10:02 AM
Hey Bigtoe 75 and PA-wesleyfan:

The is an ACFC Pick-Em board located in General Football for your ACFC prognostications.  We need to support the ACFC in the same manner as the other "posters"  are supporting their conferences.


       
    Go Sea Gulls!!!   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 09:19:08 AM
acfcposter; Bigtoe 75; Dr. Seagull; Luv:

What did you think about the positive publicity Salisbury Football received for d3football's around the nation series?
I would be interesred in your opinions.

I think Coach Wood has done a great job turning the program around, not it's up to the coaching staff and the underclassmen to maintain and build upon the programs recent success. 

Thanks again to Keith McMillan and Pat Coleman for their support, (past, present and future  ;D).

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 09:54:07 AM
It's awfully quiet over on the NJAC board and relatively quiet here.  I would think with the Salisbury/Montclair State and Wesley/Kean games there would be more banter.  The only exchanges were from JohnnyReb "dissing" Wesley and CNU and light exchanges with rams1102.

Where has Dr. Seagull been this week?  With today being Friday, I am looking forward to Dr. Seagulls bold predictions which hopefully he'll post on the General Football - Pick-Em - ACFC site  :).

Haven't heard JohnnyReb respond to PA_wesleyfan  ;D.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 10:14:41 AM
JohnnyReb:

What is your affiliation with Kean? Are you a student or alum?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 23, 2005, 10:17:06 AM
I think the publicity is a great thing actually. I know in the past, people on this board have been critical towards the Salisbury program due to playing weak schedules and choking in the playoffs and such. I am glad the program finally got the respect in the media here and in the polls. Salisbury used to be ranked way lower in the D3 polls than the AFCA polls, now it the opposite which makes us realize where the program has been and where the program is going. I am not saying they are the Mount Union Purple Raiders, but each year they recruit better players. One guy has been playing in NFL (kyle Acker). So it is nice to see the respect they are gaining. I used to hate posting in here because all the Salisbury haters spent months ragging on SU's weak schedule, and now there really is not much to bag on until they start to lose again. But I think the article overall showed how far the program has gained national respect and is not just a local mid-atlantic/southern thing nobody cares about anywhere else.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 10:20:49 AM
luv:

Do you know if Coach Wood has enough "studs" in the pipeline to maintain and build upon the recent success of the program?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 10:27:08 AM
JohnnyReb:

I don't think Pat has a problem with people "going at it", as long as it it done creatively.  You may want to suggest to Pat to create a "smack" topic board  ;D.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 10:43:42 AM
JohnnyReb:

I saw on Kean's website that the QB AJ Roque was listed as a sophmore, However I recall seeing him play aganist Salisbury at Kean in 2003 as a freshman and last year aganist the Sea Gulls at Salisbury as a Sophmore?  Is this a misprint on Kean's website or what is AJ Roque's classification?  I remember him as being a very good athlete who also functioned as Kean's Punter in addition to his QB duties.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 10:52:10 AM
O.K. JohnnyReb, 'nuff said.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bman on September 23, 2005, 11:08:10 AM
luv

We can start ragging again if you want us to... ;D

(if you want to get that nostalgic feeling again!)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 11:21:33 AM
bman:

I prefer the adulation to the ragging, it's just to stressful to respond to the ragging  ;D.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 12:01:07 PM
bman:

I see from another post "on the East Side" that you are a Widener supporter   ;).  I'm sure we will have plenty to talk about in the coming weeks, but for now I'll just take it one game at a time  ;D.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 02:17:21 PM
I wish there were some Bobcats fans from Frostburg who could share some info on Montclair State.  I know FSU came back to win, through a block by Culbert, but what was the Red Hawks defense like?

I also hope a second straight long road trip might take a little something from the Red Hawks.  Nothing like a four hour ride to take a little something out of you.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 02:26:06 PM
Any predictions on how many rushing yards the Sea Gulls offense will get this weekend.  I hope Coach Wood continues to stress turnover free football, and have the Sea Gulls focused on one game at a time!

               
   Go Sea Gulls!!!   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 03:34:12 PM
Forecast for Saturday in Salisbury:  Partly cloudy and in the 70's.........perfect for the option !!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 03:38:31 PM
luv:

DJ's backup is a senior also.  Any word on who Coach Wood is grooming as DJ's "heir apparent" for the option or will the coaches look toward a more balanced offensive attack for next year?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2005, 04:23:19 PM
acfcposter:

Any interesting stuff coming out of the "Gulls Nest"?  Everyone is alright and ready to strap it on tomorrow  ;), I presume.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 23, 2005, 05:00:12 PM
    NJ.

   For the first few years there were only a fewq ppl posting in this board and then the USA teams split and I was the only one left standing. Narch and Luv would pop in and post once in a while but there really weren't any onther ppl at all.
  So it's nice to have some banter and some thoughts from others even the Reb. He must not have been able to CUT it....
    Any how it is nice to see some of the ACFC teams and players getting some ink. If Wesley and Salisbury go unscathed I wonder if they can both get a bid?
    I know Salisbury will have one loss but!!!!
;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: John McGraw on September 23, 2005, 06:33:15 PM
If there's any Buffalo State fans out there.

Cortland vs. Buffalo State tomorrow at 12:45pm EST

http://www.bcmonsters.com
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 23, 2005, 08:38:31 PM
I think Coach Wood has done an incredible job at Salisbury.  I've been around long enough to see the Gulls at their best in getting to the 1986 Stagg Bowl.  Then, to see the lows of the 1990's and how far the program sank.  They had a record of 27 wins and 66 loses in the period between 1990 and 1999 (two 1 win seasons and four 2 win seasons).  To build it up to a top ten program is almost a miracle from where they were before Coach Wood arrived.  One of the best things he did was to hire Doug Fleetwood as offensive coordinator.  He was a legendary high school football and baseball coach here on the Eastern Shore of Maryland (Cambridge, MD).  In addition, the success they are having now will only help in recruiting for the future.
One of the biggest wins in that 1986 season was a 13-6 victory over a very powerful and highly ranked Montclair St. team at Seagull Stadium.  This Saturday will bring back some memories of that game for me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 23, 2005, 08:44:51 PM
Bigtoe75,

I hope we can reverse the outcome this year. ;D You guys are very tough. I hope we can hang in there with you guys.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 23, 2005, 09:12:34 PM
rams1102,
That was the only time we beat Montclair St.  :(

I always hope for a good game and I think tomorrow will be a good one.  When I first saw you guys on the schedule, I thought that is going to be a tough game.  The worst thing for the Gulls mentally was for you guys to lose to Frostburg last week.  I hope they don't relax and come out fired up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 23, 2005, 09:47:31 PM
Bigtoe75,

I hope they do. ;) LOL  Coach G. has cleaned house. We are very young. Our Sr, QB was a WR last year. He has a lot of guts. The D is not too bad. We should really be 2-0, but maybe being 0-2 is not so bad. We have to get ready for the NJAC. You guys will be a real test for us. Let's have a good game and good luck to both teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 08:46:16 AM
Cowboy up Sea Gulls !!!!  Time to take it to the Red Hawks from Montclair State.


              Fear the Gulls!!!


   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 24, 2005, 09:09:37 AM
LET'S  GO  MIGHTY  RED  HAWKS  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 24, 2005, 12:47:19 PM
Homecoming game for Brockport against Frostburg Today...Was hoping to be able to get there for the game, as it is Alumni Weekend, but to No avail...Score updates for anyone interested will occur on the scoreboard page on this site, and also you can listen at:

www.891thepoint.com/listen.html
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 01:35:52 PM
Just tuned in to wicoam.com and Salisbury with the Gulls up 7-0 on a touchdown by Teddy Savage with about 5 minutes left in the first.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 01:39:54 PM
Salisbury up 10-0 with a minute left in the 1st quarter on a 26 yd field goal by Brock Boland.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 01:57:34 PM
Salisbury 10-7 over Montclair 11:02 left in the first half.  DJ went out and Travis Peters throws an interception to Montclair.   >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 24, 2005, 02:20:44 PM
Brockport leads 17-0 at the half.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 02:21:26 PM
Montclair 14 Salisbury 10 with 53 seconds in the first half.   :(
:(    :(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 24, 2005, 02:24:51 PM
What the hell is going on over there for Salisbury! 

Well if anything we know that Salisbury can come back
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 02:25:05 PM
Roughing the punter, and stupid special teams turnovers are killing the Gulls.   Montclair State 14 Salisbury 10 at the Half.  Let's get it together and regroup for the second half Gulls.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 02:29:00 PM
bport:

The commentators Bill and Jim just mentioned the same that if anyone can comeback, the Gulls can.   216 to 119 in total yards in favor of the Gulls,  204 rushing yards to 28 in favor of the Gulls,  Coach Wood said they were going to go in and regroup.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 24, 2005, 02:43:28 PM
NJLion,

Thanks for the up-dates. You guys were getting your butts kicked by the port, and you know what happened. MSU is a good, young inexperienced team that will get better with time. Let's see what happens the second half.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 02:50:31 PM
rams:

Is there a local radio station in New Jersey carrying the game?  I have to go out for some domestic chores  :(.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 02:51:50 PM
DJ just ran in a 16 yarder for a TD,  It took 2 minutes and 17 seconds for the Gulls to retake the lead 17-14  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 24, 2005, 02:55:56 PM
NJLion,

Sorry, no local radio.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 02:57:12 PM
I'm going to see if I can delay my domestic chores  :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 03:00:38 PM
rams:

I'm listening on www.wicoam.com

The Gulls just scored on a TD pass from DJ to Tillage and the score is now 24-14.  10:16 left in the third quarter.   :)  :)  :)



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 24, 2005, 03:01:05 PM
24-14 Salisbury leads with 10:16 in the 3rd quarter. Heading out to the Virginia Tech-Georgia Tech game, so good luck to the Gulls with the rest of this one. Montclair is proving to be tough!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 03:02:31 PM
Poor special teams coverage and Montclair is on the Gulls 12 yard line  ???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 03:06:13 PM
24-17 Salisbury on the Montclair FG.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 03:33:31 PM
Just came back and the score is knotted up at 24-24 with 14:39 left in the game.  Let's Go Gulls, time to get busy!!!!
DJ just ran for 56 yds at the Montclair 16
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 24, 2005, 03:34:53 PM
Buffalo State leads cortland 27-13 in the 4th!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 03:35:48 PM
27-24 on Brock Boland 26 yd FG
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 03:37:40 PM
Get outta here Buff State over Cortand St.  What is going on today?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 24, 2005, 03:49:07 PM
2:21 to play and it's only Brockport 19-14 after Brockport throws an INT
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 03:50:32 PM
Montclair St. 31 Salisbury 24 with 7:40 left with a 12 yard run by Ryan McCoach.  Let's Go Gulls!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 24, 2005, 03:57:47 PM
Brockport wins, would have had to punt if it weren't for a Roughing the Kicker penalty on the punt...final score 19-14.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 04:00:09 PM
Congrats B-Port.  Salisbury on the MSU 15 with 4 down and 5 with 2:36 left in the game.  T.O. Gulls
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 24, 2005, 04:00:40 PM
Final:

Buffalo State 27
Cortland State 20
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 04:01:10 PM
DJ is out of the game and Travis Peters is running the show.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 04:02:00 PM
Montclair takes over on downs with 2:21 left.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 04:02:44 PM
Congrats to Buff State on an impressive win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 24, 2005, 04:03:08 PM
The D3football.com Around the Nation Curse!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 04:05:49 PM
worse than the SI curse.  MSU gets a first down and Salisbury has no TO's.

Final Score Montclair State 31 Salisbury 24.  Congratulations rams and the Montclair State Red Hawks,
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 24, 2005, 04:19:27 PM
NJLion,

After a win like this, it makes you think about the first 2 games. Good luck to both of us the rest of the way !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 24, 2005, 04:35:16 PM
Congrats to MSU on a big win over the Gulls.

The special teams of Salisbury made me sick today.  The kickoff coverage was terrible.  MSU had three very long returns that were almost touchdowns and set up scores.  Then Salisbury roughed the MSU punter for 15 yards and a first down.  Add on a snap over the SU punter's head, that he still had time to kick away but decided to run and was tackled giving MSU excellent field position.  It was awful to watch.
Then at the end of the game, I have to question a couple of offensive plays.  With 3rd and 5, then 4th and 5, deep in MSU territory, The Gulls attempted two pass plays with the back-up QB.  This is a team that excels at running the ball.  They should be able to pick up 5 yards on two plays no problem.  The defense was horrible at tackling their scrambling QB, they left their feet and were diving at him.  He really helped MSU with his scrambling on pass plays, SU couldn't contain him.  I hate seeing the Gulls lose these games that they should easily win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 24, 2005, 04:40:41 PM
I am shocked with some of the upsets that took place today! Unbelieveable win for Montclair at Salisbury. Hopefully, Salisbury will be able to put this behind them. Also, congratulations to Brockport. It seems like Frostburg played very tough today, but the offense killed them once again. I really believe that if you combined Salisbury's offense with Frostburg's defense you would have a really contender. Any word on the Wesley game? They just might be the class of the ACFC this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 24, 2005, 04:44:08 PM
Wesley 49
Kean 19

FINAL
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 24, 2005, 07:03:29 PM
Finals
Wesley 49, Kean 19
Brockport 19, Frostburg 14
Buff St. 27, Cortland St. 20
NNA 28, Chowan 14
Montclair 31, Salisbury 27
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 24, 2005, 07:53:27 PM
Congrats NNA!  Way to beat "d-II" Chowan.    ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 24, 2005, 08:25:53 PM
Ooops! Salisbury special "ed" teams really blew it today!  :P
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 24, 2005, 09:18:33 PM
Hmph!  My karma is at -1...Someone doesn't like me!!! 

Anyway, good wins for Brockport, NNA, Buff State, and Wesley today!  Salisbury laid an egg it seems...and Frostburg gave a heck of an effort defensively from what I heard
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 24, 2005, 09:44:36 PM
What a weekend...last thing we wanted was an angry team of Gulls next Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dpadavona on September 24, 2005, 10:29:58 PM
Buff State - Cortland State game story and pictures online at:

http://cortlandfootball.com

Congrats to the Bengals.  We'll be looking for you at your place
next season.   ;)  Montclair comes to town next week, fresh off
their stunning win over Salisbury.  Should be fun to watch!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2005, 11:37:14 PM
Congratulations to Wesley, Brockport, Newport News, and especially Buffalo State on your wins today.  Sorry that the Gulls   :-[ couldn't uphold their end today aganist Montclair State, but "that why they play the games."
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 25, 2005, 02:16:17 PM
NNASid

With the way Newport is playing, I wouldnt be surprised if they knock off Salisbury after that lousy performance they had against MSU!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 25, 2005, 06:30:11 PM
hey PA_Wesleyfan

I was wondering if you went to the wesley vs Kean game? What do you think the wolverines will be like without Lanouette? What do you think about Beavers, Lee and Gore?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 25, 2005, 08:47:31 PM
  I did go to the game.
  I have never seen referees pick up so many flags.  The umpire injured his wrist: I think it happened when he tried to reach his mouth with his whistle!!!
   Lee had a nice game. He ran away from coverage a few times and went across the middle a few times too. He has more speed than Lanouette and with Beavers' and Gore's speed  that will make it  tough on defences. He caught the ball nice too. Lanouette has great hands so I think we have to give it another game or two to see if Lee keeps it up.   Gore is steady and fast and gets open underneath and out side well. And he runs hard after the catch.
  Beavers can fly! He ran by people all day. It was very windy in Dover and a couple of balls got knocked down or he would have had a few TDs.  The team speed caused Kean to leave the back up full back open for two big plays in the second half.
  The O. also picked up any blocking slack that was lost with Lanouette. The line moved some of Kean's bigger players around and frustrated them into a few penalties.
   I think that Wesley will throw to their big tight end more too. So overal I think the O will be okl 
   
 

 
Quote from: theone on September 25, 2005, 06:30:11 PM
hey PA_Wesleyfan

I was wondering if you went to the wesley vs Kean game? What do you think the wolverines will be like without Lanouette? What do you think about Beavers, Lee and Gore?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 25, 2005, 09:07:00 PM
i definity agree with your assessment of the wolverine offense. I have been saying for a long time that Gore was an underated reciever. He may no be as fast as Beavers and Lee, but he is still fast. H e is also very scrappy. I was VERY impressed with him blocking 200+ LB'S even though he only weighs about 165lbs. He has great hands and best of all, a big heart. I think the Wolverine WR CORP is very underated and they will continue to cause problems for teams the rest of the year. Lee is very impressive and very physical. Beavers has another gear that I have never seen b4. I am really like this years wolverine team.
Title: D3 polls
Post by: luvapontiac on September 25, 2005, 10:51:43 PM
I am not one to complain about polls, but after reviewing the latest D3football top 25 poll, I had to ask the following. How can a team like UW-Eau Claire be ranked # 19 last week, lose to unranked St. Francis this week, and remain with the exact same ranking at #19 with a 1 win 2 loss record while Salisbury drops many spots to # 20? Am I reading this one wrong or teams that lose just sometimes not drop in the polls after losing to unranked teams? :-\



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 25, 2005, 11:02:12 PM
Read your front page.  St. Francis is the #2 NAIA (e.g. partial scholarship) team.

That said, WIAC teams get a lot of love.  Some (like me) contend it is too much, but plenty of others don't.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 26, 2005, 08:48:35 AM
hey wesleyfan...

Do you think this year's wesley team can go undefeated? People aren't giving them the respect they deserve.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 26, 2005, 09:55:23 AM
That's nice... but does losing to them because of the team that lost not drop ANY places I would hardly think so.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2005, 12:18:26 PM
luvapontiac, this isn't Division I-A, where there is no higher level of football and every loss must drop a team. This is a non-scholarship team going up against a team with 24 scholarships, and one ranked #2 among those teams. You can't expect UW-Eau Claire to beat that team and neither did our voters.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 26, 2005, 12:31:41 PM
Then what is the benefit of playing them? If you win, you are glorified, if you lose, it does not matter. Why doesn't every team schedule schools like that, so when they lose, it doesn't hurt them? Just not quite following your logic there.  :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2005, 03:55:47 PM
Luvapontiac, I suppose that is the case, but that's the way it is. I wouldn't punish someone for losing to someone better, whether it's UW-EC losing to St. Francis or St. John Fisher losing at Ithaca. In those instances, the poll was ALREADY correct. Why would we fix something that isn't broken?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 26, 2005, 05:28:18 PM
Pat,

Good answer. But you see my point right? I was just curious as to the reasoning behind it all, don't wanna to make it a big issue 8)

What happened to Johnnyreb's posts?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2005, 05:49:08 PM
I have read your point and I certainly agree with your right to make it. However, I disagree quite strongly. :)

Johnny Reb was warned within the past week that his posts were not needed and since he continued to be a troll, he was removed from the premises.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2005, 06:03:53 PM
    Pat
  A troll ? I had a different word for him!!!

    Luv
  I agree with you in some aspects with the polls.
But the 1AA teams and some DII scholarship programs are just Big for the DIII schools. And I see Pats point there!! But if a DIII teams gets awin moving up I say Great!!

  One
I don't know if Wesley will go uindefeated. I.E. Look what happened to Salisbury. Just glad it didn't happen the week before Wesley plays them!!  From what the coaches tell me
Seton Hill has some athletes. And the trip to Brockport will be a tough one. Frostburg St. is always tough. NN  is playing well. And then that Homecoming game with Salisbury. So if they do go undefeated it will be a challange.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 26, 2005, 06:07:28 PM
Quote from: luvapontiac on September 26, 2005, 12:31:41 PM
Then what is the benefit of playing them? If you win, you are glorified, if you lose, it does not matter. Why doesn't every team schedule schools like that, so when they lose, it doesn't hurt them? Just not quite following your logic there.  :-\

LuvaP,

Sometimes schools don't have a choice.  It's hard for teams like Linfield, the WIAC contingent, Rowan, and Hardin-Simmons to find D3 teams that will play them in non-conference ball.  Most schools don't want to be popped 66-0 in the first week of the season, and travel issues ($$$) make it tough for the teams that are isolated (e.g. west coast, TX, WIAC) to find off-season opponents.  So you end up playing D2 or NAIA opponents.  It's hard to penalize a team that had no choice but to play a program that can offer 20-30 scholarships.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 27, 2005, 08:10:35 AM
Is it true that Dustin Johnson is out for the season?!?!? If so, what does this mean for the GULLS????? :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 27, 2005, 10:27:31 AM
The Salisbury website mentioned DJ left the game late in the 4th quarter with an ankle spain, and did not mention anything else.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 27, 2005, 11:51:20 AM
He hurt his knee early in the game and had it wrapped.  You could tell it was bothering him because he was caught from behind on a couple of runs that he usually pulls away on and scores.  He had a long run at the end of the game, but after he was tackled, he came out for good.  Maybe the ankle was what put him out of the game for good.  However, he played almost the whole game on an injured knee.  He may be out for the next game (just a guess), but I have seen nor heard anything in the paper or on the news here in Salisbury.
The injury bug may be catching up with the Gulls.  The starting center Kristos Miliotis did not dress and had a knee brace on, so they moved the right tackle to center.  The guy playing right tackle was out manned at 5-10 245, and they had a lot of penetration over there.  Coach Wood says they have a lot of depth, I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 27, 2005, 10:30:24 PM
Anyone else here any word on Dustin Johnson?

Weekly Predictions

Frostburg 14
Buff State 31

Brockport 20
Ithaca 36

Salisbury (With "DJ") 42
Apprentice 18

Salisbury (Without "DJ) 21
Apprentice 18

Wesley 45
Seton Hill 13
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 28, 2005, 12:23:45 AM
I got an email from a Daily Press correspondent today (she thought I covered Salisbury, apparently) stating that QB Dustin Johnson tore his ACL last weekend and "appears to be out for the season." 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 28, 2005, 12:57:13 AM
Whoooooooooooooooooooa.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 28, 2005, 12:25:04 PM
with that being said about dustin, what does everyone think about the remainder of salisbury's season?!? Doen't look too good without DJ :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 28, 2005, 01:07:16 PM
Wesley is now 3-0 in South Region Games, with 2 remaining.

They are looking at locking up a Pool B bid.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 28, 2005, 01:19:37 PM
I feel terrible for Dustin! I can only hope that he gets a 2nd opinion and this is not as bad as 1st diagnosed. Hopefuly, if it is a full tear of the ACL then he will put 100% effort into his classwork and graduate with a great education from Salisbury. With that being said, I think that Salisbury will do better than most are projecting. They still have a good, experienced offensive line and Satchell has the ability to dominate games. I believe that he is the best back in the ACFC. The defense might have to take more chances with blitzes to create their own opportunities and this could help or hurt them. Coach Wood is a great game planner and motivator and he will have this group ready to play. Also, here are my picks for this week:

Frostburg 14 Buff State 10
Ithaca 24 Brockport 17
Salisbury 31 Apprentice 21
Wesley 38 Seton Hill 17
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 28, 2005, 02:29:55 PM
acfcposter....

what do you think of wesley's recieving corp?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 28, 2005, 05:23:14 PM
theone:

Honestly, I have not had a chance to watch them in person. I have heard some really good things though. Wesley has never had a problem getting great athletes at that position. I remember when Jason Visconti (QB) was there and they had some big, athletic WR's to throw to that just gave DB's fits. If this year's WRs are anything like that, then they will be very tough to stop. I am going to try to get to a game sometime soon. I will let you know in a couple weeks what I really think!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 28, 2005, 07:23:01 PM
That right...one person does not make or break a team...one person helps a team when they need play.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 28, 2005, 07:44:45 PM
It was just on WBOC news that in fact Dustin Johnson is out for the year and will have surgery in two weeks when the swelling goes down.  The gulls can still make the playoffs with Travis Peters at QB, but they won't go as far as they would have with Dustin.  They need to play a lot better than they did last week though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 28, 2005, 08:27:31 PM
Dustin Johnson is one of the only QB's in the nation that can single handedly change the outcome of a game. I have a lot of respect for him as a player. I honestly do not think Salisbury will be as effective without him in the lineup. His presence alone scares opposing defenses......TRAVIS PETERS DOES NOT HIS PRESENCE NOR ATHLETIC ABILITY. I honestly can't see the Gulls doing any better than 8-2. They are still a tough team but without "DJ", your talking about 14-21 pts a game down the tube. Leroy is a great back...but he cannot change the complex of a game single handedly. The salisbury defense and special teams has to really step their game up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 28, 2005, 11:15:40 PM
Understand me when I say this but I don't feel bad for Salisbury. SU will go on eventually good players come and go thats just the nature of the game. I really feel bad for DJ though. Being a player of his caliber it is going to kill him every Saturday to see his team play while he is on crutches. And the worst thing about it is that this is his senior year. Every other senior on teams besides the team that wins the NC will look back on their career and say that they gave it their all and will still leave the field sad because the ultimate goal was not accomplished. But when you get injured and you don't even have the chance to make a difference for your team it has to hurt 10 times worse. Being a player that was pretty good in my playing days and having to deal with multiple injuries myself. People say what they want but when your hurt you don't really feel like your apart of the team anymore. You were once a leader and now your confined to the training room and the far corner of practice with the rest of the injured players. Most of whom are there because they don't play and just want a excuse to miss practice. I hope DJs teammates really go out of their way to show him that he still matters because from a guy that used to get all of the attention, a player won't admit it but he will feel left out. With that being said SU still has enough talent to make it in the playoffs but their room for error has decreased tremendously.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on September 29, 2005, 07:04:09 AM
cnusfinest:

Great post! I totally agree with you when you mentioned that DJ's teammates really need to rally around him. In addition, I would like to see the entire University go out of their way to support the kid in the classroom. He has done alot for the University by putting Salisbury back on the D3 football map. It would be very easy for DJ to get so down about his injury that he forgets about his studies. I hope that Coach Wood and the rest of the faculty make sure that he leaves with a degree. I wish him nothing but the best!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 29, 2005, 09:30:10 AM
acfcposter & cnusfinest:

I couldn't agree with you all more concerning DJ's injury and the impact it will have on him and the team.  From what I understand, DJ is a pretty good student, and as previously posted he needs to focus on graduating and remaining an inspiration to his football team.  Dealing with unexpected situations is part of the maturation process that college students go through.  I sincerely hope that DJ continues to grow from this incident and moves forward in life the way he runs the option.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 29, 2005, 12:41:03 PM
It is no fluke that Salisbury's program rose from the ashes when Dustin Johnson became the starting QB his freshman year.  He has meant a lot to the school and the football program.  He was on pace to really have an incredible season with over 100 yards rushing in every game.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 29, 2005, 01:08:21 PM
Finally anarticle about the Gulls from the Daily Times.

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050929/SPORTS/509290303/1006
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 29, 2005, 08:19:18 PM
Weekend outlook:

Newport 17 at Salisbury 14
Brockport 35 Ithaca 10
Frostburg State 20 Buffalo State 13
Seton Hill 24 Wesley 14
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on September 29, 2005, 08:44:03 PM
hey luvapnotiac.......

what makes you think that wesley and salisbury will lose this weekend?!?!?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 29, 2005, 09:06:11 PM
I dunno, just a prediction. I was wrong so much last week, I figured I had better make some changes. Salisbury just played poorly, and Wesley I figured was ripe for the upset. Of course I could be wrong, but that is my gut feeling for the week. I have no problem with Wesley, I just figured Seton Hill was due for a big road win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 29, 2005, 09:46:33 PM
Salisbury over NN ( Salisbury probably way up for this game to prove they can with without DJ)
    Ithaca over Brockport ( I'd love the upset here if Brockport was home ) Actually watched Felicetti play all his H.S. games.Was a good passer then too.
     Frostburg over Buffalo ( Frostburg seems to have a better D but if Buffalo can throw the ball this might change)
      Wesley over Seton Hill ( Warrick throwing for over 300 yrds/game. BUT it is family day at Seton Hill and they played Mc Daniel tough ) 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 30, 2005, 08:48:30 AM
Bigtoe75:

Thanks for the link about Dustin.  Are any of the SU posters planning on going to the game Saturday?  My wife and I are heading down from North Jersey early Saturday Morning.

I hope Coach Wood has the special team prepared this week.  Everyone is going to have to play at potential to compensate for the loss of DJ.  I really feel going into the game without DJ and with it Homecoming/Family Day, the Gulls have something to prove.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 30, 2005, 10:29:14 AM
I was going to for homecoming...but I got free tickets to the Virginia-Maryland game instead. Love Salisbury...but I had to go for the Terps this time!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 01, 2005, 02:25:29 PM
Score Update:

Brockport 10
Ithaca 14

Halftime
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on October 01, 2005, 03:04:42 PM
Salisbury  56

Newport News 6

9:00 to go in the 3rd quarter
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on October 01, 2005, 03:12:24 PM
Salisbury 63

Newport News 6

Freshman Qb for Salisbury just ran it in for a td.

5:23 to go in the 3rd quarter
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on October 01, 2005, 03:33:01 PM
Sailsbury 77

Newport News 6

12:01 in the 4th quarter.

They just broke the school record for points scored.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 01, 2005, 03:37:19 PM
Sheesh, talk about running up the score...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on October 01, 2005, 03:50:46 PM
They've had their backups in for awhile now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on October 01, 2005, 03:52:40 PM
Final:

Salisbury 77

Newport News 13
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 01, 2005, 03:54:22 PM
more blowout action:

Ithaca 42
Brockport 17

late in the 4th
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 01, 2005, 05:36:00 PM
Okay....I was wrong about Salisbury again! I didnt think they would win much less put 77 points up on the board. That has to be a school record...I dont remember them ever putting up that many points in the 20 years I have been following Salisbury football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on October 01, 2005, 05:37:58 PM
The previous record was 75 points scored against Wesley in 1988.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 01, 2005, 06:42:27 PM
At Salisbury now at my daughter's apartment.  Got to the game shortly after it started and the score was 6-0 NNA.  Salisbury reeed off 77 points before NNA scored with about 4 minutes left.  The Sea Gull back-ups played from the second series in the second half to the end of the game.

Met nnasid while here.  The Gulls were scoring in rapid fire.  I guess you could call this a statement game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 01, 2005, 07:51:05 PM
If anyone had questions about Salisbury after losing DJ, I've got two words for you.

They're baaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.

I spoke to DJ before the game and he's a class guy.

Just got back...wow...we scored first..and last.....
Our guys played hard throughout the game...but once that machine got rolling it was wild to watch.

Wesley 48, Seton Hill 10
Frostburg St. 27, Buffalo St. 26 (stopped two point conversion with 70 seconds left).

NJlincoln...good to meet you....our men are at lincoln on Jan. 11...women play up there on Feb. 25
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: upspilot on October 02, 2005, 02:10:56 AM
I haven't posted here before, but reading the comments the last week there seemed to be some talk that the season was over for Salisbury when Dustin went down.  Now that the Gulls put up 77 I still don't see anything about Travis Peters' performance.  This young man made the right reads on the option and handled himself and the offense in an excellent way.  If you were at the game you know what I mean.  56 points in the first half is pretty good.  Dustin is an outstanding QB, but Travis Peters can run the Gull offense very effectively himself.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2005, 02:49:26 AM
I think it's considered poor form to come on and say "I told you so" when you haven't posted before.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: upspilot on October 02, 2005, 09:02:03 AM
Where was the "I told you so" comment?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2005, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: upspilot on October 02, 2005, 02:10:56 AM
Now that the Gulls put up 77 I still don't see anything about Travis Peters' performance. 

That's what you said. It's the equivalent of 'I told you so.'

There's no need to go fishing for compliments -- if someone thinks your son/nephew/brother/cousin played well they will eventually come around and say so.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 02, 2005, 12:48:14 PM
I was planning on staying out of this debate but I think it is going a bit overboard. Okay let me first say that SU dominated CNU Ha Ha Ha, now that we have established that. Come on people (not taking anything about the positive season NNA has put together so far but at the end of the day they are still NNA). Those guys work hard and I really respect them for trying to play football on top of that but who really expects them to play well aginst one of the better teams in D3. Last year W&J put 70 plus on them as well. All of this stuff about saying they are back is funny. Bottom line is, if DJ had finished the Montcllair game healthy SU would have proably won and if he had started against NNA their would have been no discussion if NNA could beat SU. Im not trying to take anything away from Peters because I don't know the kid. But lets get real, if he was half as talented a runner as DJ why in the hell would SU have DJ returning punts and kickoffs at the beginning of the season. Thats the difference of the two DJ is an instant game breaker and Peters is another good backup. Okay SU might have beat the hell out of NNA yesterday but when they make it to the playoffs against some of the best the South Region has to offer then SU fans will see the difference.  Let me be the first to tell you that if Peters and SU think they can put up 70 against some of the teams that will make it to the playoffs, I would say why was DJ starting in the first place. Another thing if memory serves me correctly SU already had some come back wins early in the season that was fueled by none other than DJ. Yes the team has to go on thinking they can still get it done but every other playoff team defensive scheme has got a lot easier. Now its stop Satchell and you will have a very good chance of beating SU.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 02, 2005, 04:45:35 PM
Nobody expects Salisbury to put up over 70 points against anybody, whether it be NNA, CNU, or a playoff team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 02, 2005, 11:15:24 PM
Only a knucklehead would claim that SU is better with out Dustin Johnson at QB.  Your right that a healthy DJ may have out scored Montclair St.  However, SU has more weapons on offense than just DJ and Satchell.  Travis Peters just has to run the option and get the ball to the other weapons.  If defenses come in trying to stop Satchell, SU will run the option to the outside, then come back later and run Satchell up the middle.  I've already posted that SU may still make the playoffs, but won't go as deep as they would with DJ.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on October 03, 2005, 01:20:40 PM
i honestly can't see salisbury beating wesley this year. Wesley has way too many weapons on the offensive side of the ball. Salisbury's DB'S have been giving up way too many yards this year to teams who dont have the speed that wesley has. So what do you think will happen when they face the wolverines???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on October 03, 2005, 01:22:43 PM
i see salisbury going either 8-2 or 7-3 without dustin johnson. Playoffs....NO

ECAC'S likely
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 03, 2005, 03:05:06 PM
Salisbury will beat Wesley...with or without Dustin Johnson
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 03, 2005, 05:26:17 PM
Congrats to Salisbury, Frostburg and Wesley. It looks as though the Salisbury kids really pulled together this week and put it to Apprentice. Also, hats off to Frostburg. They pulled off a mild upset of Buff St. Hopefully, they will be able to keep getting better each week. Also, Wesley continues to look very impressive. The Salisbury/Wesley game should be phenominal! Looking ahead to this week, I believe that Frostburg will give Wesley a better game than they are expecting. I believe that they (Wesley) might be so focused on Salisbury that Frostburg might give them a scare. I am in no way saying that Frostburg will beat them this weekend, but it will be closer than most think. The other game that I believe will be closer than expected is the Salisbury/Buff St game. Buff St probably believes that they let one slip away this past wekend at Frostburg and will be fired up to play. The Buff St QB played VERY well against a pretty good defense and I do not believe, with the exception of Westbrook, that the Salisbury secondary is that good. I believe that Buff St will be able to score some points and stay in the game until at least the start of the fourth quarter. But, I do not believe that they have enough fire power to outscore Salisbury. So here are my predictions for these 2 games this week:

Wesley 24
Frostburg 17

Salisbury 41
Buff St 31
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 03, 2005, 10:21:19 PM
Salisbury has a bye week this week.  They don't play Buff St. until the 15th.  They beat Buff St. 40 - 6 last year on the road with Travis Peters at QB.  I look for the same result this year, after that long bus ride to the 'bury.  It is also their third long trip of the year (Wesely, FSU, SU) and the last of 4 straight road games.  I agree with acfcposter in that FSU will give Wesely a tough game, but Wesely will have too much in the end.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 04, 2005, 09:31:16 AM
Is it just me, or are there not many people posting in this forum anymore.  :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 04, 2005, 10:54:28 AM
Luv:

No it's not you, there really isn't alot of posters here, and I fear with an bye week for Salisbury there may be less.

How was the Virginia/Maryland game?  The running back for Maryland Lance Ball is from my area (Teaneck, NJ).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 04, 2005, 11:46:13 AM
Bigtoe75:

I must have missed the date, but I knew that the next game for Salisbury was Buff St. I might be completely wrong, but I still believe that Buff St will be able to keep it closer than you expect. I would be willing to bet that Buff St will score 21 or more points against Salisbury. Unfortunately, for Buff St, they will give up more than 28. Like I said before, Salisbury will win the game, but their defense is not nearly as good as it has been over the past 2 years. If Buff St can protect the QB, they will score.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 04, 2005, 11:53:45 AM
That game was electrifying! I have been to games at Virginia Tech that were loud, but Byrd Stadium was the loudest I ever heard. The Maryland fans never gave up even as Virginia took the lead late in the game. I think the crowd and the black jerseys for MD really helped the Terps win.

On a D3 note, I have been to many games at Salisbury, and I have to say they have one of the worst stadiums-if not the worst overall- I have ever seen. It would be nice to get some lights on the stadium and schedule a night game for them. That would really draw a nice crowd instead of playing every single game at 1 on Saturday. Facilities really do a nice jesture not only for the fans but for the team. CNU really put a lot of effort into Pomoco Stadium, and they have great attendance. Salisbury looks like an old run down high school stadium, which is why they average about 1000 people a game. For a consistant top 25 team, I would think more people would show up. I blame the boring lack of diversity in the game times, and I blame the mediocre bleachers they call a stadium.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 04, 2005, 01:50:00 PM
Luv:

I see your point about Salisbury stadium, and agree that for a school with tremendous sports teams the Football/Lacrosse  stadium leaves alot to be desired.  The only upside is that there is no track around to put you further away from the action.

I saw in a homecoming program 2 years a ago an add/sketch for a new stadium, I don't know whatever happend to it?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 04, 2005, 01:53:29 PM
luv:

When I said sports teams, all of Salisbury's teams.  The School has finished in the top 20 in the Sear's Director's cup the last couple of years.  Right now the Field Hockey team is No. 1 , Men's Soccer is No. 2, and Football is No.17.  The Spring sports are just a good with Lacrosse, Baseball and Softball.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 04, 2005, 02:03:15 PM
Or is it people are saving up their energies for the Wesley-Salisbury week.

haha

;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 04, 2005, 04:47:27 PM
nnsid:

I think you hit it on the nail with the Salisbury/Wesley game.  A certain poster (i.e theone), has been talking about the game since week one.  Well it's almost here, and it will be for all the marbles.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 04, 2005, 06:12:46 PM
we will see how we can rebound after Saturday's performance at Ursinus.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 04, 2005, 07:57:28 PM
  I am a Big fan of Wesley football...BUT I don't think we should look ahead to early. Wesley has Frostburg this week and road trips to NNA and a long ride to Brockport before they tangle with Salisbury.  I don't think Wesley will lose before then BUT....That's why they play the games!!!
  I will be at that game for sure and it will be Wesley's homecoming so there won't be many seats to go around. I did hear that Wesley wanted to play it under the lights but Salisbury wasn't keen on the idea. I haven't seen the lights at night yet on the new field but I here that it is very well lit.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on October 04, 2005, 08:41:42 PM
Watch out for Brockport. I remember traveling to Brockport to support a Wesley team that had a 12-0 lead and lost the game, and no dance.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 04, 2005, 08:47:00 PM
I think that game against Brockport is one for Wesely to watch out for.  It is a long road trip against a conference foe, they may be looking ahead to the Gulls the following week, and Brockport is a good team.  The Wesely vs. Salisbury game is going to be a good one and I can't wait to make the hour drive up there to see them play.  It has seemed to me that the Gulls have been vulnerable to the pass for the last couple of years.  So, we'll see if that hurts them this year against the Wolverines.  If they can get into the QB's face, they be OK.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 04, 2005, 08:51:12 PM
nnasid,
What was the coach for NNA thinking when he ran the fake punt in the 4th quarter.  They were already getting crushed and the ball was on their own 20 something yard line with a long way to go for a first down.  Salisbury wound up with the ball on the 15 yard line and then the third string O scored.
It was a strange call to me.
I hope you guys keep having a good year and go get Ursinus.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 04, 2005, 09:00:05 PM
practice I guess
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 04, 2005, 09:27:28 PM
Well, I guess they really didn't have anything to lose at that point.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 05, 2005, 03:01:44 PM
To get a few things flowing on the board

First half awards?

Player of the (half) year
Surprise team of the (half) year
Coach of the (half) year

since I work at a school in the conference (and for the conference)...I will refrain from answers on those...interested in the fans of the conference votes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on October 05, 2005, 03:18:44 PM
Player.. Chris Warrick

Surprise Team..NNA

Coach....Drass
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 05, 2005, 04:16:18 PM
QuoteSince I work at a school in the conference (and for the conference)...I will refrain from answers on those...interested in the fans of the conference votes.


NNA-SID I guess that makes you quasi-commissioner of the ACFC-Independents Message Board! ;) :D ;D

NNA-SID, you do a great job of getting the good word out about the student-athletes at the NNA. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 05, 2005, 04:32:37 PM
I know we're an odd-child so to speak with the NCAA and a lot of misconceptions about us float about. I just try to get things out and get them correct.   The life of a SID.

Thank you Ralph!!

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 05, 2005, 04:16:18 PM
QuoteSince I work at a school in the conference (and for the conference)...I will refrain from answers on those...interested in the fans of the conference votes.


NNA-SID I guess that makes you quasi-commissioner of the ACFC-Independents Message Board! ;) :D ;D

NNA-SID, you do a great job of getting the good word out about the student-athletes at the NNA. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 05, 2005, 09:32:01 PM
  SID
  I was hoping that you were gonna say that 3/4s of your team got shipped to the gulf to fix ships after the hurricanes and that's why you got beat by Salisbury!!!
 
I have to go with DJ because of his numbers both passing and rushing.  Though Warrick is a very close 2nd. He has really held things together while Wesley was trying to get it's running game untracked
Janaro gets the nod for coach even with the bad Salisbury game. You just never know what kind of talent they will get
at NNA and how many wiull stay from year to year.
That leaves NNA again as the team.

  To all
Did you see that the ACFC is the 2nd ranked conference at this point in the year in Keith's column (NON- Conference)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 05, 2005, 10:04:58 PM
Well I hope that we can pad that a little with 3 non-conference games left starting on Saturday (Ursinus, Southern Va., Seton Hill).

I'll be very interested to see how we bounce back after that

pa-wesley: you making the trip for the oyster bowl here?...I'll have to remember that line...applause applause

njlincolnlion:  you going to chime in on the question (look back if you can)?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 05, 2005, 10:27:49 PM

  Not this year SID. Made the trip to an Oyster bowl and the Shriners bowl games a few years back. Actually was in NNN 4 straight years. Have an Aunt there and we stayed with her for the Chowan trip one year. Watched them build that new addition to the bridge year by year!!  Where are they playing the game? At the NNA field or one of the  city stadiums?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 05, 2005, 10:51:14 PM
playing at the place you went to in 1999 (Darling Stadium).

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 06, 2005, 07:53:39 AM
nnasid:

Thank you for trying to stir up this board! This place is really dead right now. Where has dr.seagull been? Here are my thoughts on your questions:

Player: Kevin Culbert (Frostburg) - Check his stats. He has completely dominated every game that he has played. I would put him up against any D-Linemen in the country.

Coach: Mike Drass (Wesley) - Unbelieveable job. Has always had the talent, but really seems to have the team playing well together. Just might knock off Salisbury as top dog in the ACFC.

Team: Apprentice - Great first conference win against Frostburg! Got rolled by Salisbury, but I think that they will play well against the rest of the confreence foes. Solid bunch of kids!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on October 06, 2005, 10:02:27 AM
hey PA_Wesleyfan

I heard that Gore isn't playing this week because of an ankle injury. Do you think this will affect the wolverine recieving corp with Lano already out?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 06, 2005, 01:11:10 PM
pa_wesleyfan:

I just checked the weather and it looks like rain all day long on Saturday. Do you think that the Wesley passing attack will be slowed down by this? Also, do you think that Wesley will be able to protect the QB with Culbert coming off the corner? I really think that this game is going to be a good one (if Frostburg can get anything from their offense)!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 06, 2005, 03:03:03 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 05, 2005, 10:04:58 PM
Well I hope that we can pad that a little with 3 non-conference games left starting on Saturday (Ursinus, Southern Va., Seton Hill).

I'll be very interested to see how we bounce back after that

pa-wesley: you making the trip for the oyster bowl here?...I'll have to remember that line...applause applause

njlincolnlion:  you going to chime in on the question (look back if you can)?

nnsid:

We need to win as many out of conference games as possible to fend off the naysayers of the ACFC, so we need all the padding we can get.    ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 06, 2005, 03:12:46 PM
lincolnlion
check back on one of my previous posts...
player of the (half) year
surprise of the (half) year
coach of the (half) year

what are your thoughts??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 06, 2005, 11:23:40 PM
Quote from: acfcposter on October 06, 2005, 01:11:10 PM
pa_wesleyfan:

I just checked the weather and it looks like rain all day long on Saturday. Do you think that the Wesley passing attack will be slowed down by this? Also, do you think that Wesley will be able to protect the QB with Culbert coming off the corner? I really think that this game is going to be a good one (if Frostburg can get anything from their offense)!
Quote from: theone on October 06, 2005, 10:02:27 AM
hey PA_Wesleyfan

I heard that Gore isn't playing this week because of an ankle injury. Do you think this will affect the wolverine recieving corp with Lano already out?
Theone  Which ONE are you???
naw just kidding!!
I didn't know Gore was hurt. The game cast last week was a bad feed or something so I didn't get to listen to much of the game. They didn't archive the game so I guess it was a bad line.  Warrick seems to be looking for more than just one or two recievers. Beavers and Lee seem to be getting open as well as the TE's and Beard are making plays.

acfcposter
I don't know how much the ran will effect  play on the new turf. I did notice that players are slipping on it when it's dry so wet can't be better. BUT I think that has to do with the shoes the players are opting to use. It's hard to use turf shoes on that surface,  I think the wind may be a factor to. It's always breezy at Wesley buit when it's windy it's BAD!!!
Also I think Wesley will use the run more Koroma is a bruising runner and Nelson seems to be getting some yardage now too
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 07, 2005, 09:43:20 AM
ACFC Half Year Awards:

Player: Dustin Johnson
Surprise Team: Newport News Apprentice
Coach: Phil Janaro NNA


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 07, 2005, 01:26:28 PM
The correct conference this time  :D.

Could this be the week Wesley cracks the d3 top 25 with a win over FSU?  It would be good to see two ACFC schools in the top 25.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 08, 2005, 10:51:15 AM
 Hopefully the webcast will work today. If you go to the Wesley Football page then to the schedule page you can click on the STRETCH icon and get to the game.

  Pat the short cut on the DIII schedule page looks corrupted!

   They are calling for 2 more inches of rain in the east today so I suspect that there will be some low scoring muddy games being played. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 08, 2005, 11:06:20 AM
Try this to get to Wesley game

http://secure.stretchinternet.com/demo/games.php?user=wesley&o=cal_stamp&sd=1124089200&ed=1152946800
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 08, 2005, 12:41:08 PM
pat: REMOVE the oops I did in starting another file.


The weather in PA....one word....QUACK

its good if you are a duck.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2005, 01:17:07 PM
Thanks, PA_w. Wonder why Wesley took down the Stretch page on its site...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 08, 2005, 02:09:40 PM
  i think it got corrupted pat
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 08, 2005, 03:34:48 PM
Update on the Frostburg/Wesley game: Wesley up 34 - 10 late in the game. Frostburg jumped out to a 10-0 lead early in the first. I believe that they picked off a pass and returned it 50 some yards for a TD. They were running the ball down Wesley's throat. I believe 70+ yards rushing in the 1st quarter alone. Then Wesley forced a turnover inside the Frostburg 10 and punched in one of their many TD's. Frostburg then seemed to abandon their running game and the wheels came off. Late in the game I think that they (Frostburg) had 20+ yards passing. The announcers doing the game on the Wesley broadcast were shocked that Frostburg stopped trying to run the ball. After a few 3 and outs (mostly trying to pass the ball), Wesley started to wear down the Frostburg defense (happens every week!) and they became unstoppable. Congratulations to Wesley once again. They fought back and showed how explosive they can be. As for Frostburg, I really feel bad for their defense. That offense is terrible! Until they can find a way to put points on the board, they will not be able to win a game against a decent opponent.
So, now it is time to start talking about the Salisbury/Wesley game. I know that it is still a couple weeks away, but it is going to determine the conference championship. I still think that Salisbury has a slight edge, but I could be wrong. I am really interested to see if Salisbury can stop the Wesley passing attack. And I am excited to see if Wesley can stop the option. Even without Dustin Johnson, Salisbury is still very dangerous. Just ask Apprentice!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theoriginalupstate on October 08, 2005, 07:36:47 PM
SJF is up on Brockport 21-0 10 minutes left in the 2nd qtr...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 08, 2005, 09:31:25 PM
 Poster!!!! WHOA!!!!! Don't fall into the look ahead trap. Wesley certainly dominated the last three quarters today but they did start out slow. And if they get too far behind to soon against a Brockport or NNA they could have trouble.
I am sure Coach Drass is not going to look to far ahead. and PREACH the old pne game at a time theory!!!

  Now to the game. Kevin Nelson had a big game today. Sounded like they gave him some straight handoffs instead of those sweeps he has been having trouble cutting off of.
I don't think it was him as much as it was the very young O. line, Also Warrick settled in and threw some balls to the backs especially the secret weapon FB  Chris Barnes!!!
  And the D didn't give up much either.  On to the Oyster Bowl.

   NNA sid sounds like a tough game today.  And I know what the weather was like here in PA. There is flooding  all over Montgomery and Bucks Counties so I hope you got out ok. I know that you have a long trip to begin with in nice weather. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on October 09, 2005, 07:39:30 PM
Gongrats for making it into the Top 25 !!!. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 10, 2005, 09:05:20 AM
PA wesley: It was actually longer going up there Friday...took us 7 hours compared to 6-ish coming back.

When you get a bounce like they did....off the right upright on the second PAT attempt....hey...that's why they play the game.

Now I see a top 25 team coming in here for the Oyster Bowl.....wow.

Congrats Wesley fans on a top 25 ranking.

better
Congrats ACFC fans on 2 top 25 teams
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 10, 2005, 10:44:40 AM
 Two ACFC teams in the d3 top 25.  Congratulations to Salisbury and Wesley.  Has this ever occurred before for the conference, and if so when, and who were the teams?

The Gulls/Wloverines game wold have national implications if both teams enter the showdown ranked.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 10, 2005, 11:55:33 AM
It doesn't look like the ACFC has ever had two teams in the Top 25 at the same time, no. Brockport dropped out when Salisbury got in last year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 10, 2005, 01:40:55 PM
Pat:

Thanks for that information, so it looks like this week is a historic one for the ACFC getting two teams into the d3 top 25.

BTW, Pat, any opinions as to who the ACFC may look at to replace Buffalo State when they leave for the NJAC?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 10, 2005, 02:54:43 PM
Not really. The only school I've heard of that has interest in joining the league doesn't yet have football, so I would say any change is a long way off.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 10, 2005, 03:56:41 PM
njlincolnlion, Has Lincoln ever had a football team?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 10, 2005, 04:41:10 PM
Ralph:

Lincoln last fielded a football team in the mid fifties i believe.  There is a tremendous amount of activity and discussion amongst the Alumni and Administration about bringing football back.  Dicussions have centered around a club team in two to three years.  Geographically, Lincoln would be near other ACFC schools as well as the PAC conferences and NJAC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 10, 2005, 04:52:00 PM
Lincoln, I would hate to stop at a club team...maybe club the first year, but with the right alumni support you could do it.  And with your track team, I can imagine the team you would field.

The ASC's Texas Lutheran, East Texas Baptist, Mary Hardin-Baylor and Louisiana College plus Huntingdon and (next year) LaGrange are doing it.

Only University of Dallas in their attempt to field a club team in 2002 has failed to get initial interest.

The ACFC would love to have you, especially if Brockport migrates somewhere else!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 11, 2005, 09:32:56 AM
Ralph:

I believe the plan at Lincoln is to go the club route for a year and then field a team that is compliant to NCAA rules and regulations.

You make an excellent point regarding the potential use of Track athletes on the football squad (provided they have some football talent), since you can't teach speed.  As the defending d3 NCAA mens outdoor champion, and with an additional 12 other mens NCAA Track championships(Indoors & Outdoors), it's a great pipeline for a football team.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 11, 2005, 12:11:29 PM
nnsid:

That seemed like a tough loss to Ursinus.  I was watching the Delaware/Hofstra game on TV and it was a quagmire in Newark, Delaware.  I can only imagine what the conditions were like up in Collegeville, PA.

It seems like rather "heady days" in the ACFC with Both Salisbury and Wesley in the top 25.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 11, 2005, 02:57:09 PM
FB gods are not with you when they bank in the extra point attempt off the upright and it drops behind the cross bar.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 11, 2005, 04:48:29 PM
UPDATE UPDATE

Saturday's Oyster Bowl game with Wesley has been shifted from Darling Stadium to Apprentice Field.

Same game time,,,different location.
:)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 12, 2005, 11:10:44 AM
Dr. Seagull, are you out there or are we going to have to put out an APB on you?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 12, 2005, 12:11:53 PM
Predictions for this weekend

Wesley 28  Newport 10
Salisbury 35 Buffalo State 6
Thomas More 20 Frostburg State 13
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 12, 2005, 04:48:45 PM
Hey Luv:

How have you been? You think SeaGull Stadium will be in shape for the game Saturday?  I'm in Northern New Jersey and it's looks like I'll need a row boat to get home tonight, and the forecast calls for rain up until Friday night.

Hopefully, with the bye, the Gulls are well rested and prepared for the BuffaloState Bengals.  If I not mistaken, this is Buff State's last year in the ACFC before moving over to the NJAC, so hopefully Salisbury can send them out with a loss.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 12, 2005, 07:29:09 PM
I have been good, been really busy with work and all. Dont know what happened to Muhammad Hussainy (AKA Dr. Seagull) lately.

Maryland and Virginia didnt get nearly the rain the northeast got actually, so Salisbury is in good shape overall. My cousin who is there now said everything is fine.

It's sad Buffalo St. is pulling out of the conference. I guess the distance traveling really played havoc on them having to down to Virginia, Maryland and Delaware for their games. I guess they want to get into a northern conference to play some games close to home. I have related them (and Brockport) to Boston College of the ACC, a northern school in a southern confernece. When you dont have anybody near you, you cant really establish a major rivalry. Oh well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 12, 2005, 11:03:24 PM
  Hey Luv you gonna change your name to luv-a-bicycle soon???
NJ Fluffalo??? not nice
NNASID  Hope you have good weather for the shriners parade at half time sat. wish I could be there but with the price of petrol I would have to remorgage!!!AGAIN!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 12, 2005, 11:24:18 PM
what the **** does that mean?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 12, 2005, 11:27:00 PM
Gas prices luv gas prices!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 13, 2005, 07:19:39 AM
Quick predictions for this week:

Wesley 45 Apprentice 13
Salisbury 38 Buff State 24
Frostburg 17 Thomas Moore 16
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 13, 2005, 07:36:37 AM
PA: Wesley's doing a webcast so you can at least keep up.
no parade...they eliminated the parade in 2001.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 13, 2005, 12:59:51 PM
Oh...sorry! I read into that one wrong! :-X I thought you were saying something else. I apologize for my reaction PA!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 13, 2005, 04:34:20 PM
  no prob luvapontiac i don't get some things i say either  ??? hehehe

  NNAsid  sorry about the parade.. Though all those people with sharp objects lol

  Pat does DIII have a catastrophic injury allowance for a sixth year of eligibilty?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 13, 2005, 05:11:54 PM
yeah....the sword man in the shriner band....he's a crazy one...shirt off no matter the weather.

:D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 13, 2005, 10:56:31 PM
PA_WesleyFan, don't know. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 14, 2005, 08:50:42 AM
Too bad its not a sword woman!  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 14, 2005, 10:48:57 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 14, 2005, 04:48:46 PM
Time to see how the Gulls react to their bye week.  Everyone should be all rested up and ready to resume the second half of the season
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 14, 2005, 06:41:59 PM
i'll post a halftime and final from here with the oyster bowl game (wesley)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 15, 2005, 02:26:21 PM
Somebody PLEASE post some scores on this board of ACFC games!! My computer is acting up and I can not get anything as far as broadcasts go. Anything that anyone has would be much appreciated. Also, has anyone heard from Dr. Seagull? I am starting to get worried!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 15, 2005, 02:26:58 PM
24-0 Wesley at half
warrick has thrown for 180-ish
beavers has a 75-yard TD catch
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 15, 2005, 04:16:06 PM
nnasid:

Thanks. Any word on the final score? Also, have you heard anything on the Salisbury/Buff St or Frostburg games?? This computer is driving me crazy!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 15, 2005, 04:57:10 PM
A final from Salisbury
Salisbury 62 Buff St. 20
SU jumped out to a 21-0 first quarter lead, then the Bengals cut the lead to 21-14, before SU pulled away.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 15, 2005, 05:25:26 PM
My God! Is it just me or is Salisbury getting better? 77 and now 62 points!!!! It seems that they have gotten more focused since Dustin went down and are really hitting on all cylinders. Hopefully, they are not peaking too soon. If they can keep this up, they are really going to be tough to beat. Also, it looks like Wesley took care of business as usual. With the playoff field being expanded, is there any chance that both Salisbury and Wesley could make the playoffs? It would be great for the ACFC if they could both get in!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on October 15, 2005, 05:29:13 PM
Final:

Salisbury 66

Buffalo State 20
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 15, 2005, 05:32:36 PM
Frostburg beats Thomas Moore today!!!!! Thomas Moore was in first place in the PAC going in to today. I believe the score was 23-6. It was Frostburg's first road win since 2003! Great day for the ACFC! It is time that we get some national respect.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 15, 2005, 05:36:27 PM
Salisbury final was 66-20

Wesley 45-0
Warrick threw for 300 yards, marcus lee was Oyster Bowl MVP with eight catches for 132 yards.

If that is true on Frostburg...heck of a win for the ACFC....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 15, 2005, 05:40:46 PM
nnasid:

Is that true?? Of course it is. I just checked the Frostburg website.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 15, 2005, 07:12:04 PM
I was not able to check the site
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 15, 2005, 08:31:55 PM
hmm  I wonder who had a preminition about Frostburg!!!!

  Even us old guys get some things right.

  I had to be in Philly today and got an opportunity to listen to parts of both the Widener/Susquehanna and Rowan/ Cortland st. Games.  You would have thought they were both getting beaten badly by the way the anouncers were carrying on. Good thiing none of us acts like that here !!! ;D

   One more Wesley win and the showdown will be on.. But I will wait til after next week to bring that up!!!

  NNA sid geesh I was diesappointed to here that there was no OLD FAT sword men marching today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 15, 2005, 08:34:20 PM
  The way Salisbury is running up scores you'd think they were leaving the conference!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 15, 2005, 08:38:34 PM
 OH that's right!!!! Buffalo is leaving!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 15, 2005, 08:58:16 PM
from all i saw he was a youngster doing the sword thing.

you guys are very good.....I think its Drass' best team that I have seen (since 2000 for me)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 15, 2005, 09:29:41 PM
nnasid,
Now that you have seen both Wesely and Salisbury up close, what do you think about their matchup.  I'm worried about SU defending the pass against Wesely.  Buff St. had some big plays on SU today in the passing game.  It seems that pass D is SU's weakness.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on October 15, 2005, 10:00:40 PM
i agree with you bigtoe....

wesley lost Lano early in the season and lost Gore with an ankle injury. Gore comes back this week but wesley is extremely deep at wide reciever. I have been saying this all season....their passing game is REALLY good. With all the yards that salisbury has given up through the air...i think welsey will win this years showdown. Can't 4get the play of wesley's defense either. With Beavers, Lee, Gore and Clarke at reciever...i don't see what salisbury can do with that. Lets not forget that Gore led the nation in punt return yards two years ago. I think that wesley will beat b-port worse than expected. TOOOO much speed on the wolverine team this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on October 15, 2005, 10:01:30 PM
you also cant forget kevin nelson.......can break away at any time. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 15, 2005, 10:43:26 PM
theone,
I think it will be a shootout with two very good offenses going at it back and forth.  It will come down to which defense makes a big play and of course special teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on October 15, 2005, 11:31:25 PM
nna sid...

whats your prediction on the b-port and wesley game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on October 15, 2005, 11:31:54 PM
prediction

wesley 42
b-port 13
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 16, 2005, 09:04:18 AM
The Thomas More "in-region loss" was also beneficial to Salisbury and Wesley.  Now we need TMC to wreak havoc amongst W&J and Thiel for the sake of us Pool C watchers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 16, 2005, 12:09:02 PM
wesley v. salisbury

first one to 50 wins
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 16, 2005, 06:57:38 PM
PA_wesleyfan:

Good posts, but I think think I had you beat by several hours on the FSU upset over Thomas More (under the ACFC pick em games on 10/12/05)  ;D.

This was a great week for the ACFC as it was previously pointed out.  Wesley will have a potential one aganist B-Port before the Salisbury game.  Additionally, it seems as if the Bobcats(FSU) are starting to build up some steam, anf the Sea Gulls can't take them for granted.  Salisbury has be racking up some points and so has Wesley, so as nnasid said it may come down to whoever scores 50 first (Go Gulls).

If would be interesting to see where the ACFC is relative to the other conferences are in the Powere rating?

Finally Salisbury send Buffalo State a fine present for bolting the ACFC.  The sure the NJAC will give them some warm welcomes next year  ;).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 16, 2005, 08:18:28 PM
  NJ and NNAsid
If they only go to fifty it may only take a quarter!!! BUT!!!
I am not looking ahead. B-Port has a bye this week so I am sure they will be ready.
I am looking foward to the going to the game at Wesley on the 29th. Will be a packed house. The two games i have been too were packed so this will be even more so with the fans from Salisbury too.

  Maybe Pat will make that the game of the week!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 16, 2005, 10:54:27 PM
Good-BYE Buffalo State! Any word on Brockport leaving the ACFC too?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 17, 2005, 08:17:51 AM
I have already told the Salisbury SID that his cell phone best be working that weekend as I will be calling frequently from Southern Va.
:D


Shoot...if we had a bye that weekend I would drive up for that one...that should be an awesome game.  All depends on who gets "contained" --- Warrick or Salisbury's ground game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 18, 2005, 12:36:40 PM
Wesley B-port will be a good game, That's a long trip to B-Port, and with a week to rest and prepare, it should be an interesting game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on October 18, 2005, 09:42:34 PM
NJ,

I agree that Wesley will win, but it will not be a walk in the park. Those up-state boys know how to play football.

How are your Gulls doing? I know they have been winning, but how have they come together after the loss of your QB? Good luck.

Nice comment on the NJAC board. Thanks. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 19, 2005, 10:03:27 AM
rams:

The Gulls have racked more points since DJ went down than before, however with that said DJ was the catalyst that sparked those come from behind wins earlier in the season, and losing a potential All American was a severe blow.  Travis (DJ's back-up) is a very experienced QB who did well last year when DJ was out for a few games.  The team seems like they have really pulled together.  I was down for the Homecoming/Parents game aganist NNA, and Salisbury looked unstoppable.

As far as the comments on the NJAC board, it's a fact that on any given Saturday, anything can happen.  Just look at Ithaca, therefore as JT mentioned, They are not taking anyone for granted, especially with the loss of their starting QB.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 19, 2005, 05:37:05 PM
This week's predictions:

Salisbury 45    St. Peter's 17
Frostburg 27   Seton Hill 13
Wesley 38   Brockport 24
Buff St. 24   Apprentice 21
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on October 19, 2005, 07:50:20 PM
I think Wesley wins by 10-14 points. 35 to 24. If they blow out B-Bort in their own house, Wesley is a real contender.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 19, 2005, 08:54:20 PM
What division is St. Peters in?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 19, 2005, 09:04:49 PM
they are 1-AA non-scholarship
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 19, 2005, 10:24:03 PM
I checked out the St.Peter's website and they do not look too good. I know that it seems like Wesley and Frostburg used to play 1-AA non-scholarship teams all the time in the past and really didn't have too much trouble beating them. I assume that this will be the same this weekend for Salisbury. Basically, there are on the same level as D3 when you think about it. Does anyone know if playing this game against a non- division 3 team will hurt Salisbury for playoff contention? I always thought that they would not receive points for beating a non-D3 team. If this is the case, then the Wesley game becomes even bigger for Salisbury. If they lose to Wesley, then they might be on the outside looking in during playoff time. Pat, would you have any information on the whole playing non-D3 teams and how it affects the playoffs?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 21, 2005, 09:04:49 AM
ACFC Prediction Board is on the Pick-Em site.  Here's to hoping Coach Wood keeps the boys focused on one game at a time, and that the Gulls has resolved their special teams concerns.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 21, 2005, 10:52:51 AM
Playing St. Peter's won't help for playoff selection, no. Basically, non-Division III games are never brought into consideration.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 21, 2005, 07:21:45 PM
What is the point of being a DI school if you are not going to give athletic scholarships to the players?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on October 21, 2005, 08:19:08 PM
That is what Mid Major is all about. A D3 program that recruits out of state.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on October 22, 2005, 02:31:47 PM
Salisbury leads St. Peters 27-7 at the half.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inkman on October 22, 2005, 03:18:13 PM
Brockport 31, Wesley 0.   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inkman on October 22, 2005, 03:19:07 PM
Woops, make that 38-0.   ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 22, 2005, 03:24:34 PM
Keep that Brock/Wesley score coming!  That helps Pool C some.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 22, 2005, 03:28:41 PM
What point in the game is BSU and Wesley? That sounds like an old fashioned butt whippin going on up in NY!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inkman on October 22, 2005, 03:39:19 PM
Middle of 4th Q 40-0. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inkman on October 22, 2005, 03:40:04 PM
11 minutes left in the game. 
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Post by: inkman on October 22, 2005, 03:51:23 PM
47-0, brockport.  8 minutes left.   :D
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Post by: inkman on October 22, 2005, 04:06:59 PM
47-0 final.  Monkey stomp.  >:(
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Post by: ACMob on October 22, 2005, 04:08:30 PM
Double monkey stomp!! :o :o
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Post by: mandfense on October 22, 2005, 07:08:14 PM
Quote from: luvapontiac on October 21, 2005, 07:21:45 PM
What is the point of being a DI school if you are not going to give athletic scholarships to the players?

Because their basketball programs are Division I, their football programs have to be I, IAA or IAA non-scholarship.  There are a couple of exceptions (Johns Hopkins lacrosse program is DI for example).

Schools like St. Peter's, LaSalle, etc. are basically Division III football programs despite the D-IAA moniker.
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Post by: bports on October 22, 2005, 07:28:00 PM
Brockport absolutely laid the wood to wesley today 47-0. Bport frosh qb making his first career start zack luke threw for 263yds and 4 td's. This kid is going to be a great one, he is 6'3" 205lbs and has a cannon of an arm. Props to Bports D wesley had 3 yds rushing and 87 yds passing. That includes the final 12:00 min of the game when wesleys 1st string O was going against bports 3rd string D. This loss for wesley probably puts them in a must win against salisbury to have any chance of making the NCAA's. Bport travels to #4 rowan next week for there 5th game of the year against a nationally ranked team. GOOD WORK EAGLES!!!!
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 22, 2005, 08:02:26 PM
Wow, It sounds like the B-port D more than held Kevin Nelson in check...Sounded like a good ole fashion can of whup a** was opened. 
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Post by: luvapontiac on October 23, 2005, 10:05:01 AM
ah...I gotcha. Thanks mandfense

So what happened to Wesley yesterday? I know Brockport is a decent team and all, but there is no way they should have manhandled Wesley to that extent. That had to be a long busride back south again from New York for them. If they play like that against Salisbury, that may end up looking like a basketball score instead of a football score.
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Post by: bports on October 23, 2005, 10:37:59 AM
My stats were a little off, wesley had -3yds rushing and 87 passing.
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2005, 11:01:43 AM
   Well that certainly wasn't a good prep game for Salisbury!!
It looks like Wesley looked ahead, got behind, didn't snap out of the slow start and got Bushwacked.
    When you have a team with no superstars that can single handedly turn a game around those things previously stated can happen!
     So now it comes down to one game for Wesley. Rememeber Salisbury still has a Frostburg team to play that is playing well.
      I didn't get to here the game, but I guess Brockport used it's week off to change alot. And I am sure they used this game as their SEASON saver.  Brockport plays a very tough schedule and you have to give them credit to play hard week after week.
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Post by: Hampton U SID on October 23, 2005, 03:04:14 PM
what a wild (cold and wet in NY) day

jaw droping Brockport-Wesley score....had to ask it again when I first heard it.

salisbury scoring machine still rolling

frostburg is playing very well now

buff state kept the Builders in check all day in the 40 degree rain (I finally thawed out)

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Post by: acfcposter on October 23, 2005, 07:46:29 PM
I was shocked to hear the Brockport score! It sounds like Coach Salomone (sp?) really out-coached Coach Drass on Saturday. There is no way that they are that much better than Wesley. With that being said, it is going to be interesting to see how Wesley rebounds against Salisbury. If Salisbury gets on top early, will Wesley roll over again? Also, it looks like Frostburg is starting to play better. Their next 2 games should be very interesting. They have Westminster and Waynesburg. Frostburg could very easily win both of these games, but Waynesburg has always given Frostburg trouble, no matter how bad they were. One game that I think people are forgetting about for Salisbury is their game against Widener. Widener plays very good football in a tough conference. I am not sure if Salisbury will make the playoffs with 2 losses. It is going to be very interesting on how this season will play out.
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Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 23, 2005, 08:54:17 PM
Here is an article with video on a pair of Wesely players (Beavers and Harris) from last week I think.

http://www.wboc.com/Global/story.asp?S=4000576&nav=menu222_6
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 24, 2005, 09:43:36 AM
What happened to Wesley's Kevin Nelson, and the vaunted passing game?  The Gulls need to get the B-Port/Wesley film.  I thought the long trip to B-Port would take something out of  Wesley, but not everything!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 24, 2005, 10:19:49 AM
The Sea Gulls can't afford to get off to a slow start in the game with Wesley.  This seems to be the pattern with Salisbury this season.  I'm sure Wolverines will have a very big chip on their shoulder after the humiliating loss to B-Port.

With the game at Dover, the fans will be an added plus for Wesley.  The Salisbury special teams needs to be sharp all game and match the offence and defense's intensity.
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Post by: wesley18 on October 24, 2005, 07:40:28 PM
B-Port is a tough place to play.  We were a holding Call away from playoffs in 01.  It's good to see that the ACFC has some quality teams.  It should be nuts down in Dover this week for the game, especially since it's Wesley's Homecoming. Would love to go to the game, but unfortunately I can't get out of work.  I'm looking forward to the Battle of Rte. 13.  Should be a real barn-burner.
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Post by: rams1102 on October 24, 2005, 10:49:38 PM
I was there. We lead at the half. We should have won, and a holding call away from the playoffs is shoulda woulda coulda. Let's see how Wesley rebounds this weekend.
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Post by: wesley18 on October 25, 2005, 12:46:54 AM
I expect a high scoring affair this weekend.  The O/U should be around 70pts.  Rams was your son a part of that Wesley team?? Or are you a Wesley Alum??
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Post by: rams1102 on October 25, 2005, 06:09:24 AM
wesley18,

My daughter went there for a year and a half. She then transfered to Montclair. Don't ask. It appears that Wesley has got it's act together since. My daughter knew Visconti(not a bad QB) and was pretty close with Butch. Well off on a business trip. Good luck this weekend. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 26, 2005, 01:43:40 PM
Awfully quiet on the board, especially with the "Battle of Route 13" coming up Saturday.  I actually thought there would be more banter between Salisbury and Wesley fans.

I sure Wesley will have a chip on their shoulder after the humiliating loss at Brockport, and with the game being in Dover for Homecoming, The Sea Gulls needs to really focus on playing sound turnover free football.
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Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 26, 2005, 05:29:52 PM
Everyone must still be stunned at how bad Wesely lost last week.  If Wesely's QB is a pocket passer, I think SU will be able to put enough pressure on him to stop their passing attack.  If he is a scrambler, he will give SU trouble.  I have think that SU wins this game 35-21, and takes the ACFC title.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 26, 2005, 06:24:31 PM
For the weekend...

Newport 41 Southern Virginia 30
Brockport 17  Rowan 14
Plymouth State  24  Buffalo State 14
Frostburg State 27 at Westminster 21
Salisbury 35  Wesley 17


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 26, 2005, 06:54:25 PM
Wow luv, that is quite the upset calling B'port over Rowan.  Why do you think that?
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Post by: Hampton U SID on October 26, 2005, 07:00:38 PM
thanks for the luv...luv....:)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 26, 2005, 07:04:59 PM
I think the way Brockport played against Wesley will transform into a second consective upset. I always like to pick one upset per week, and this one seemed logical to me the way Brockport played.

PS-No problem NNA!
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 26, 2005, 07:21:26 PM
 


When I heard the score in the first half Saturday I thought it could end up being a longggggggg afternoon for the Wolverines. Sometimes that happens. A big ole snowball gets a head of steam and look out below.  But  They can turn it all back around this Saturday. I am gong to the game so whenst I return to PA. Saturday night (after I make my usual donation at the Downs) I will fill ya in on the details.

I though maybe Pat was going to make that game!!!!

NNAsid get those yougins playing up to par down there and get a couple more wins.
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 26, 2005, 07:24:19 PM
  HMMMMM!!! looks like maybe the MAC could use a few good football teams and the travel wouldn't be all that bad either!!!!   Toughts????/ ???
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Post by: Hampton U SID on October 26, 2005, 07:30:28 PM
yeah....SVU has improved over their 2 years...so it should be a good game out there...then we get to end with Seton Hill.

Hopefully that can spell 5-5
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Post by: theone on October 26, 2005, 08:35:20 PM
predition for the battle of route 13

Wesley 38
Salisbury 24

Lets me ask a couple of questions here. Does anyone on the board really think that brockport's defense is good enough to hold wesley under 100 yards of total offense?
I DON'T. The rain on the fieled is completely different than the rain on field truf. I think that caught up to the wolverines. I talked to someone who went to the game and said that wesley was slipping all over the place. Thats no excuse, but i would love to see what would have happened in that game if they played on a dry field.  But hey, Brockport played on the same field so there are no excuses. I think salisbury will have a problem considering the amount of yards that they have been giving up in the air.  Salisbury's offense is still good, even without Dustin, but they have yet to play a good team without Dustin. Nothing against NNA and Buff State, but the wesley-salisbury game is a completely different atmosphere. I think wesley will bounce back and have a great day on saturday. This game will prove what kind team salisbury is without Dustin.
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Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 26, 2005, 08:54:30 PM
What real quality teams has Wesely played all year?  I'm not too impressed with the teams that they have beaten this year.  The only good team they have played this year (Brockport) beat them soundly.  Wesely is a good team, but I have seen all of Salisbury's home games and they playing very well right now.  Their defense gives up a lot of passing yards, but they don't break very often.  From what I have seen of Wesely the last couple of years, the St. Peters team that Salisbury just beat down, is comparable to Wesely.  I think the score on Saturday will be close to the score of last weeks SU vs. St. Peters game. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 26, 2005, 11:41:36 PM
Bigtoe 
I doubt that if Salisbury bends that it Won"t break.
Wesley's recievers are very fast and Salisbury best not let them run wild or we could see a very high scoring game. And maybe a Wesley one sided one at that!!
The games I have seen this year at Wesley, Opposing teams are having trouble with their footing. They all seem to think they need turf shoes!!!Wronnnnnng.
 
The 1 

I think Coach Drass will have the team very ready foir ths week. Geesh maybe Uncle Frank will even show!!!  I know I am arriving early to get a good seat!!!
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Post by: bucksweep on October 27, 2005, 11:50:25 AM
I am looking forward to seeing who wins this game.  When I played at SSU we always had great games with them including a 49-48 loss that was an awesome game.  I always liked playing in Dover, do they have turf now?

Bryan Schaumloffel
SSU class of 95
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 27, 2005, 12:31:00 PM
bucksweep:

According to Wesley's website, Wolverine Stadium has "New Style Turf".  I also believe "revamped their stadium this past year which includes lights.  Pictures on the Wesley website show that the field looks nice.  Very Little seating on the visitors side.

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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 27, 2005, 04:24:38 PM
Salisbury/Wesley NCAA stats and ranking comparison:

Team Rankings

Total Offense          9.  Salisbury       502.0 ypg
Rushing Off.            1.  Salisbury       396.4 ypg
Rushing Def.           22. Wesley           89.1 ypg
Total Def.               32. Wesley         274.3 ypg
Passing Off.           27. Wesley          272.0 ypg
Scoring Off.             2. Salisbury          48.3 ppg
                             19. Wesley             37.8 ppg
Kickoff Ret.            23. Salisbury         22.63 avg.

Based on the above stats, it should be one hell of a game.  Here's to hoping Salisbury's special teams plays up to par with the Offense and Defense, with a turn over free performance.
         
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 27, 2005, 05:09:31 PM
Bigtoe:

You bring up a good point in your responst to theone regarding the SOS for Salisbury and Wesley.

Salisbury beat Methodist, Brockport (at B-Port), CNU (at CNU), D1aa St. Peters College, and lost to Montclair St. (Lost DJ in the game) who is doing well in the NJAC.  I would say Salisbury has the edge in terms of being "battle tested".

Of course this is just MHO.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 27, 2005, 10:00:25 PM
  Just read some interesting quotes from Del Val's Coach Mangus.  He says that going to eight teams frees his school and the rest of the M.A.C. schools to play more non- conference opponents.  Makes sense to a point so maybe the M.A.C. won't be looking to add football only schools. Still would be a nice fit for Wesley and Salisbury travel wise. But I am not so sure Wesley would drop the P.A.C. in other sports!!!
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Post by: Pat Coleman on October 27, 2005, 11:49:04 PM
I will be at the Salisbury/Wesley game on Saturday, yes.
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 28, 2005, 09:19:07 AM
Pat:

Glad to know you'll be at "The Battle for Route 13".  I hope the Sea Gulls will provide some highlights for d3 football and hand the Wolverines their second consectutive defeat during their Homecoming festivities.

Pat, I hope your presence brings Salisbury luck  :).
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 28, 2005, 10:29:23 AM
Saturday's Weather for Dover, DE

Mostly Sunny with a high of 54 degrees.  Perfect Football weather, so there shouldn't be any excuses about playing conditions.


                  
Go Gulls
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Post by: bisonpride on October 28, 2005, 11:44:44 AM
FLASH NEWS!!!
Click the link below to read today's interesting edition of Washington Post article related to the Gallaudet football team..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/27/AR2005102702034.html

Go Bison!!!
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 28, 2005, 12:44:16 PM
Bisonpride:

Good article on Gallaudet's football program.  How long has the Bisons had a club football team, and are they planning on taking the next step?
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 28, 2005, 01:14:52 PM
Looks like a lot of posters are picking Salisbury to win in the South's GOTW.  Let's hope they are all right !!!!!!!

                 
GO Gulls
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Post by: Pat Coleman on October 28, 2005, 01:24:54 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on October 28, 2005, 12:44:16 PM
Bisonpride:

Good article on Gallaudet's football program.  How long has the Bisons had a club football team, and are they planning on taking the next step?

Gallaudet dropped from varsity to club in 1995. It returned to varsity in 2000, dropped out again after the 2002 season. They plan to return in 2007 (http://www.d3football.com/notables.php?date=2005-07-12).
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Post by: bisonpride on October 28, 2005, 02:25:27 PM
Yeah, you are right Pat. Hope the move back up to DIII and will last it there for long time after fall of 2007.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 28, 2005, 02:30:32 PM
Pat:

Thanks for your response to the Gallaudet question.  What conference was Gallaudet affilliated with when the played DIII Football?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 28, 2005, 02:42:14 PM
They were independent.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 28, 2005, 08:37:17 PM
 Pat
Will you be in the press box? I am going. If you don't mind I will introduce myself?  I have been posting here since the boards inception.  I usually sit with Coach Drass' parents right outside the press box door.  I will be the odl guy sitting with the older guy!!!!LOL
  NJ
I had a preminition today Wesley 34 Salisbury 27 and that is the end of the first quarter!!!! I look foward to a greta game and a HUGE crowd.. 
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Post by: ACMob on October 28, 2005, 08:42:21 PM
bport070782--  where you be??  Come join us??  You know where! ;)
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Post by: Chris Panter, GMC SID on October 28, 2005, 09:33:40 PM
I hope Pat's presence gives Wesley some luck...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 28, 2005, 11:39:52 PM
Well, ACMOB...I responded on the NJAC, but i'll respond here...I luckily just got my power back after Hurricane Wilma Delivered a devastating blow to West Palm.  I'm OK, but it's amazing how you take advantage of power and water when you have it...interesting week.  Anyway, any comments on the game I have in the NJAC board.

As for salisbury/Wesley, I think Wesley can't be nearly as bad as the score last week, and will show up to regain face against the gulls...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 29, 2005, 12:01:45 AM
Picks this week:

Salisbury  38
Wesley  24

Salisbury just has too much offense. Wesley still reeling from last week's humiliating loss!

Frostburg  17
Westminster  14

Frostburg one in a defensive struggle. Kevin Culbert makes a play in the 2nd half that decides the game in the favor of Frostburg.

Rowan 42
Brockport  13

Brockport gets a taste of reality by an elite team. Rowan controls the game from the opening kickoff. The only Brockport points come late in the game when the 2nd team is in. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 29, 2005, 12:05:42 AM
1st team to 50 in dover gets the W........ :o


acfc...forgot one game......NNA/SVU.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 29, 2005, 08:06:10 AM
Here is a pdf link for game notes released by Salisbury on the game today with Wesely.  I'm heading up to Dover soon and I'm looking forward to what should be a great game in an exciting atmosphere.  Good luck to all the ACFC teams today!

http://webdev.salisbury.edu/athletics/football/Gameday%20Notes/SU-WC-Notes-Wk9.pdf
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 29, 2005, 02:10:36 PM
wesley 28 Salisbury 13 with 6 minutes left in the first half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 29, 2005, 02:33:24 PM
Wesley 42 Salisbury 13   :-[.   C'mon Gulls Let's go.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 29, 2005, 02:35:54 PM
Geez, is every team in the ACFC a mystery?  You never know which team is going to show up!

Rowan and Brockport tied at 0 early in the 2nd quarter
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 29, 2005, 03:00:30 PM
Salisbury's special teams and defense are killing them.  Salisbury at the own 30 fumbles snap and gives Wesley the ball deep in Sea Gull territory  :-[.

Wesley scores and now it's Wesley 49 Salisbury 13 9:49 left in the 3rd Qtr.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesley18 on October 29, 2005, 03:07:44 PM
Cmon I need only 9 points for my over/under of 70.  Wish i could have traveled to Dover for the game.  If the score holds true will Wesley be ranked again? Is there any chance these teams could meet again in the South region of NCAA's?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 29, 2005, 03:26:17 PM
Brockport's Offense is a real stinker this week, trail 12-0 to Rowan at the half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 29, 2005, 03:27:16 PM
End of third quarter Wesley 56  Salisbury 13.  Wesley18, Salisbury may not make the playoffs after this game.  Wolverines had it goin this week, and took out it's frustation on the Gulls this week during their Homecoming.

Congrats to Wesley......This game is OVER!!!!!  :-[
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 29, 2005, 03:29:08 PM
Looks like a 3 way tie atop the ACFC...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 29, 2005, 03:32:12 PM
Wesley 63  Salisbury 13.  nuff said
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 29, 2005, 03:42:23 PM
Wesley 63 Salisbury 19   :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 29, 2005, 03:59:41 PM
Battle of Route 13 "officially" over  Wesley 63  Salisbury 19.  Agains Congrats to Wesley, in opening up a can of whoop a** on the Sea Gulls.   

It was a tough day for the Gulls.  Leroy Satchell went out late in the fourth quarter with an injury, I don't know the extent of the injury.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 29, 2005, 03:59:59 PM
Unbelieveable job today by Coach Drass and his staff!!! It looks like Salisbury forgot to get off of the bus. After this loss, Salisbury has to win the next 2 games to have a chance of making the playoffs. Both games will not be easy. As a matter of fact Salisbury is going to have to play very well against Widener and Frostburg to win both. Widener is a very tough program and the Frostburg/Salisbury game is up in the air every year. By the way, does anyone have scores on the Frostburg or Newport News games? Hopefully, they are representing the conference well again today. Finally, even though it looks like Brockport is going to lose, they played an elite team very well. If they could have just scored!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 29, 2005, 04:22:50 PM
Ouch! Salisbury special ed teams strike again!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 29, 2005, 04:23:17 PM
acfc, I agree with you.  I think that  Salisbury just fell much farther than most would think.

For the Pool B bids, Linfield, Thiel, Wesley, W&J and probably Whitworth are the top 5 for 4 bids.

Huntingdon has a 5-point "road loss" to the #1 Seed in the South.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 29, 2005, 05:26:57 PM
Wesely destroyed Salisbury in every aspect of the game today.  It wasn't just the special teams.  As several Wesely fans who have posted on here earlier said, Salisbury couldn't stop the Wesely passing game at all today.  Then the o-line for SU was beat badly all day.  The game was never close.

Congrats to Wesely on a great win for them today.
After the Monclair loss and then this butt whoopin by Wesely, the Gulls don't deserve to go to the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on October 29, 2005, 07:19:40 PM
ive been saying it the WHOLE YEAR!!! Salisbury could not do anything with wesleys' recievers. Gore, Lee, and Beavers are tooo much for any gorup of D-Backs. Congrats to wesley on opening a can of WHOOP-@#$ on Salisbury.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ACMob on October 29, 2005, 08:20:08 PM
Quote from: theone on October 29, 2005, 07:19:40 PM
ive been saying it the WHOLE YEAR!!! Salisbury could not do anything with wesleys' recievers. Gore, Lee, and Beavers are tooo much for any gorup of D-Backs. Congrats to wesley on opening a can of WHOOP-@#$ on Salisbury.

I'd say Brockport handled them!!(47-0) ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 29, 2005, 11:19:52 PM
NNA lost 17-14 to SVU on an 82-yard touchdown pass with 1:45 left.
Last second FG attempt was blocked

end with Seton Hill on Saturday

FSU won on a last second FG 16-13 at Westminster
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on October 29, 2005, 11:26:07 PM
Hey Theone...nobody likes a gloater. Your team won the game, but don't belittle the rest of us with your so called "prediction" crap about how great Wesley's receivers are. Brockport showed us how good they can be too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 29, 2005, 11:27:10 PM
 While I'll agree Brockport played tough .The Weather played a major part last week. Wesley's running game has been inconsistant and B port. played to that and doubled every Wesley reciever last week.
I was at the game today and Wesley dominated all day. Westbrook ha a great return to set up one of Salisbury scores and the full back broke some takles a few times today. Salisbury just got out hit!!!    
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 29, 2005, 11:30:02 PM
  Ah yes lest I forget!! I met the man who has us all talking, The one, the only, Mr. Pat Coleman today. He was runnning around snapping pics all day. Thanks again P}at for a great site for DIII football
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on October 30, 2005, 01:52:45 AM
Ah, a little love for my Bobcats.

5-3 on the season now and 1-3 on conference.  We'll be 5-5 at worst, and could be 7-3. 

I'd love to win the Regent's Cup, but we have one more before we can think about Salisbury.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 30, 2005, 09:25:23 AM
The problem for Wesely may be that in the playoffs, many games are played in very bad weather.  So, they can't depend on good weather and their home turf every week.  You need to be able to go toe to toe and grind it out in order to go deep in the playoffs.  Their speed may be neutralized come playoff time. 
However, they did absolutely crush Salisbury in every aspect of the game yesterday.  The play of Salisbury's o-line was disturbing to me.  I thought they would be able to score right along with Wesely in a shootout.  Michael Vick couldn't even run behind that line yesterday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 30, 2005, 09:48:39 AM
  I think that the end of the game showed a little of the future of Wesley's running game with Koroma. He doesn't go down easy. Wesley didn't make any excuses about the weather last week. B'Port had an extra week to plan and they took the Wesley's speedy recievers outof the game. 
  That's what happened to Wesley in the playoffs at Trinity a few years back too. Live with the pass you better have mudders!!!!!
   But that was then..
We'll have to wait and see what happens now with other teams and were Wesley gets sent for the playoffs. 
 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2005, 10:38:51 AM
Nice to meet you to, PA. It's great that you remain a fan this long after your son's graduation. Division III needs more fans like that.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on October 30, 2005, 11:12:53 AM
is it possible for wesley to have a home playoff game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2005, 11:47:36 AM
Possible, yes. Lock, no.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on October 30, 2005, 02:07:08 PM
So do you guys think FSU will have a good chance in the Regent's Cup?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 30, 2005, 02:34:31 PM
FSU Bobcats:

Are you currently playing? If so, you had better stop worrying about Salisbury and concentrate on Waynesburg!! Just check the all-time history against Waynesburg. They own Frostburg! Also, I hope that the Salisbury players are not forgetting about Widener. If Frostburg and Salisbury can take care of business this week, then the Regent's Cup is going to have some meaning. But, if they both lose this weekend, then the game will lose any national meaning or interest that it might have. Remember, Division III football is larger than the state of Maryland.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on October 30, 2005, 04:17:36 PM
I have been out of college for some time.  As far as Division III football being bigger than the state of Maryland, I know it is.  But it's been quite some time since Frostburg could lay any claim to national relevance.  For us, the Regent's Cup game has been our biggest game.  It's gratifying that we're back to being a somewhat sucessfull program. 

I would love to see my 'Cats win out and get an ECAC bid and the Regent's Cup. 

We had a very nice win this weekend and I think we use that momentum into next week too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 30, 2005, 08:59:09 PM
FSU

  Don't look ahead it's very very dangerous!!!
But honestly.. If Frostburg can neutralize Salisbury's speed like Wesley did they may have a chance but they have to play better D than they did against Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on October 30, 2005, 09:15:54 PM
We're 3-1 in the last 4 Cup games with the only loss coming last year.

But you're right, it's dangerous to look ahead, especially when we're coming off of the type of run we'd had the last few seasons.

7-3 would be a great step towards getting back to the Top 25.

6-4 would be an improvement over last season and still a good effort.

5-5 would mean two straight Regent's losses and a lot of questions for next season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 30, 2005, 09:18:02 PM
FSU Bobcats:

I did not mean anything by my statement, but I just think that Frostburg has settled for average over the past 5 years or so. It seems like they only care about beating Salisbury. I totally agree that if Frostburg can win out they should have a good shot at an ECAC birth. But, Frostburg has really had a hard time with Waynesburg in the past. Also, Frostburg is not good enough to look past anyone. Just look at the Newport News game (no offense nnasid). There is no way that Frostburg should ever lose to a club team! Finally, if you went to Frostburg and played there you should be well aware of the "Waynesburg Curse". I believe that they even knocked Frostburg out of the playoffs a couple times throughout the 1990's.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on October 30, 2005, 09:28:36 PM
I did spend four great years there, but didn't play.  During my sophmore year, we were ranked in the Top 25 for a good part of the season as well.

And we do have an obsession with beating the Gulls.  It wasn't as bad as it is now when I was there.  I think our slide to mediocrity had something to do with it.  Even when we were in the middle of a losing season, we could always rise up and beat the Gulls.  It helped when the Gulls were ranked as well.

Waynesburg is going to be double tough.  Saturday showed me that.  We needed a huge 4th quarter rally to beat Westy.

The bottom line is that I want to see the boys win out.  7-3 with a Regent's win and a possible ECAC birth would be a HUGE step to getting back to respectability.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on October 30, 2005, 09:49:49 PM
FSU Bobcats:

I totally agree that winning out would be great for the 'Cats. Believe me, I will be pulling for them. What year did you graduate from Frostburg? I know alot of people that went there. Maybe we have some of the same friends?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on October 30, 2005, 09:53:47 PM
Well, I never actually graduated.  I was a semester away when some things happened at home and I had to leave school.  One semester!

Anyway.  My last year was 2001.  I was a social science and secondary education dual major.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 31, 2005, 10:46:13 AM
club team?
minus karma there
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 31, 2005, 12:06:25 PM
  HAHA you tell em NNASid!!!!

  PAT

  If my karma gets any worse I may have to start doing yoga and chanting.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 03, 2005, 09:50:25 AM
Which Salisbury team will show up this week aganist Widener?  I sincerely hope Salisbury bounces back from the shellacking they received from Wesley, the way Wesley rebounded after their loss to Brockport.

I hope Coach Wood has the Gulls prepared, Both Salisbury and Widener have 2 losses and are fighting for their playoff lives.

btw, this board is awfully quiet.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 03, 2005, 05:17:00 PM
Not poking fun at SU in any way but all I want to know is whatever happened to Dr. Seagull aka muhhamed hussainy.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on November 04, 2005, 01:08:56 AM
so is this what it comes down to?!?!?!?
Wesley demolishes Salisbury and nobody wants to post anymore?
Any preditcions on wesley in the playoffs if they make it?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 04, 2005, 09:03:08 AM
Hey theone:

As a Salisbury fan I have came on here and congratulated Wesley on their win.  Funny, I didn't see you post anything after Brockport opened up a can on whup a** on the Wolverines? 

As far as Wesley in the playoffs, it depends on what Wesley team shows up?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bman on November 04, 2005, 01:59:12 PM
njlincolnlion

I for one, wouldn't mind if they didin't show up... ;)well...maybe their 3rd stringers...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 04, 2005, 05:00:53 PM
  fight nice children!!!
I for one was tired all week from all the cheering I did last Saturday. Standing and sitting so many times at my age can tire ya out especially after all those TDs.  Sorry NJ... I know how you feel with the possiblity of two more losses looming. Actually I wouldn't mind Salisbury winning out and gettting into the playoffs too!! That would be a good thing for the conference. It should be a war this week with you both still having a glimmer of playoff hope left
NNA sid did they ship you out? You been quiet all week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 05, 2005, 08:38:53 AM
nope...been busy with getting ready for the last home game and season ender today.

going to be a busy day in the ACFC today with all six teams playing non-conference games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 05, 2005, 06:20:33 PM
Congratulations to NNA on their win over Seton Hill.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 05, 2005, 07:17:05 PM
Thank You Ralph!

ACFC Scores today
Frostburg 17, Waynesburg 10, OT (break up the frosties..)
Wesley 53, Chowan 19 (3 defensive TD's and a KO Return)
Thiel 21, Buff State 3 (Mikloaichik throws for 341)
Brockport 27, TCNJ 0 (second shutout for Brockport)
Widener 31, Salisbury 28 (29 yd FG at the horn)
NNA 14, Seton Hill 10 (Freeman career high 174 yards, Reid breaks 1000 receiving yards for career)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bman on November 06, 2005, 07:58:27 AM
WOw

Just read the press release....Sounds like the WU/SU game was a barnburner, with tons of O, turnovers aplenty and 2 teams that came to compete...

If anyone was there, I'd like thoughts or comments on the game....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on November 06, 2005, 09:30:27 AM
bman,
It was a great game and exciting down to the finish.  Widener came out with 5 wide and passed the ball all over the place.  Then once they spread the SU defense out, they were able to get some long runs.  If the Widener QB was more accurate on his throws, Widener would have blown SU out.  He threw a lot of bad passes.  On the other hand SU had 2 touchdowns taken away from them.  One long run was called back on a penalty and another was rulled a fumble on the one yard line, when the RB went in standing up.  One linesman ruled it a touchdown and the other a fumble.  All in all though it was a hard fought game on both sides.  I would like to see these programs continue and make this a yearly meeting.  They are two good programs and they aren't that far apart, allowing many fans and parents to make the trip (they aRE ABOUT 2 1/2 HOURS APART).

As a SU fan it is a tough way to end the season.  They started out so well and then the injury bug came.  First Dustin and now Leroy Satchell was out yesterday and who knows for the Regents Cup.  It looks like Frostburg is playing really well right now and SU is going the other way.  The Gulls are turning the ball over too much and the special teams are still hurting them every week.  I would not be surprised to see Frostburg take back the Regents Cup this year. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on November 06, 2005, 12:32:44 PM
What a day for the ACFC! It looks like Wesley and Brockport are hitting on all cylinders. I would ove to see them play again on a DRY, neutral field. Also, hats off to Frostburg. Coach Stevenson and his staff shut down their opponent and the offense did just enough to take care of business. This makes for a very interesting Regent's Cup game next week. Frostburg is relatively healthy and Salisbury is banged up. The winner of the game should get serious consideration for an ECAC playoff birth. I predict Frostburg in a close one. Something like 20-17. I would like to hear what Dr.Seagull has to say.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on November 07, 2005, 08:52:41 AM
what determines which bracket a team will play in? I am interested to know what Bracket Wesley will play in. Even though they are in the south region, is it possible for them to be in the East Bracket?!?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bman on November 07, 2005, 09:47:48 AM
Bigtoe

Thx...I am glad at least we have the home and home...and your'e right, this is a match-up that needs to happen more often.

Perhaps with the MAC thiing down to 8 and possibly less teams, these will be more likely in the future...

GL next week...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on November 07, 2005, 10:12:10 AM
Since we all feel we have to be all touchy feely this season when one of our teams plasters another...I just want to say congratulations to everyone who is pasting Salisbury lately.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 07, 2005, 11:35:40 AM
Congrats to Widener...I listened to some of the game, but had to get out and enjoy the wonderful weather in November.  Looks like it's next year for the Gulls, except fot the Reagents Cup.  It should be a good game in Towson.  Let's hope Coach Wood can get the Gulls up and finish the season on a positive note.  Btw good luck to Wesley in the playoffs......represent the ACFC well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on November 07, 2005, 07:27:43 PM
NJ,

Tough year for the Gulls. We got Rowan this weekend and a win doesn't guarantee us an ECAC bid. We both have one more left, lets kick some butt and build for next year. Let's see if Wesley can get past the first round this year. It would be good for their program.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 08, 2005, 09:17:05 AM
rams1102:

Thanks for the ecouragement.  Good luck this weekend at Rowan.  If I recall correctly, the Red Hawks has had success at Rowan recently.  It probably will depend upon which Rowan team will show up?  I hope for MSU's chances, it's the team that showed up aganist Willy P.

Salisbury will taking on a much improved Frostbury State team for the Reagents cup at Towson.  I hope the Gulls can pull out  win to close on a positive note. 



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on November 08, 2005, 10:39:41 AM
I expect FSU to beat Salisbury again. If this was the Salisbury team that lit up Brockport, CNU and Newport, I would not say that. But that team has dissapeared. It is sad to see a team that started out with promise of the playoffs, and are now just fighting for a little respect at the end of the season. Coach Woods has the playmakers, I just am worried about the discipline of the team. They remind me of NC State. Very loaded team, just falls apart at the wrong time during the season, though makes you believe in them at times with some glorious wins.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on November 08, 2005, 05:22:34 PM
I agree luv.  You could see all year that they would make mistakes that championship teams just don't make.  Several roughing the punter penalties that alowed teams to keep drives alive and score.  Late hits out of bounds on third down, failing to field punts and giving up yards of field position.  Disciplined football is knowing you job or assignment, being aware of the situation on the field and playing smart.  That was missing way too often this year.  However, I'm optimistic about the direction the program is heading and maybe we just need to be patient and let Coach Wood keep building.  It would be very disapointing if they pack it in for the Frostburg game.  Next year they lose some key players, but they also return many.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on November 08, 2005, 06:32:28 PM
Salisbury is a very athletic team but facts are facts. They will NEVER be the same team without DUSTIN JOHNSON.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bports on November 08, 2005, 07:18:13 PM
I didnt realize losing a game by 5 points (35-30) was considered getting "lit up".
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: narch on November 10, 2005, 03:17:58 PM
will satchell be out this weekend?  if so, does mc transfer david leonard step into the sb position?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on November 10, 2005, 06:00:11 PM
I am also interested to see if Satchell is playing. He could definitely affect the outcome of the game. I really think that Frostburg is peaking at the right time and Salisbury's injuries are going to be too much to overcome. Regardless, it is going to be a great game. Hopefully, one of these teams will still be playing next week in an ECAC game!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on November 10, 2005, 09:36:22 PM
It just means defensively Brockport didnt play that well. Ya'll are real good at making something into a fuss. Salisbury didnt exactly play much better, but enough to win the game. So, my "lit up" simply means scored a lot of points. And yes, 35 is a lot of points, as is 30.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 11, 2005, 09:13:48 AM
narch:

I would think that Satchell would play (it would be his last game at Salisbury) if his injury is not serious.  With the Conference title lost, the Gulls will want to at least defend the Reagents Cup. 

If Satchell, plays, I like Salisbury in a win, although FSU's Kevin Culbert is a brut!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2005, 06:17:28 PM
563 from Buffalo to Salisbury.
478 from Buffalo to Dover.
435 from Buffalo to Glassboro.
430 from Buffalo to Ewing.
413 from Buffalo to Danbury.
395 from Buffalo to Upper Montclair.
392 from Buffalo to Wayne.
185 from Buffalo to Cortland. :)

Maybe I'm not following what you mean.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inkman on November 12, 2005, 02:56:30 PM
Brockport 15   Buff State 12 in the vaunted "I-90" bowl.  I hope the Golden Eagles bring home that trophy.   ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inkman on November 12, 2005, 03:10:24 PM
Port 18   Buff   12
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inkman on November 12, 2005, 03:41:16 PM
Port 25 Buff 12...B-port is running away with it,       very                   slowly.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inkman on November 12, 2005, 04:26:53 PM
25-19 final.  Big brawl at the end.   >:(


Side note:  The announcers on Buff states radio station hate each other, especially the sideline guy.   :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 12, 2005, 04:56:37 PM
Well Brockport takes what could be part of a 3-way share of the conference with this win.

5-5 on the season, 4-1 conference...Not what was desired, but good tenacity shown near the end of the season.

Haha about the Buff State Announcers...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bportrocks on November 12, 2005, 08:56:48 PM
any update on the SU Frostburg game?? its a big one for bport
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 12, 2005, 10:10:08 PM
bportrocks---

Checked the Salisbury  tv station, but nothing posted yet (probably still going on.) Yoy could call them later (410) 749-1111, press 1 and ask for sports.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CBE on November 12, 2005, 11:11:24 PM
Salisbury 30    Frostburg 24     Final according to SU's website.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 13, 2005, 03:02:57 PM
GO WESLEY
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on November 13, 2005, 03:53:43 PM
any predictions on how wesley will do in the playoffs?!?!! I definitly think they are the Cinderella team this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on November 13, 2005, 03:55:06 PM
Prediction:

Wesley 45
Ferrum 13
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 13, 2005, 04:08:24 PM
  I have a feeling that Wesley will shut down Ferrum just like they did Salisbury. And Wesley isn't forgetting that Ferrum dropped them from this years schedual real late!!! It's a GOOD day in Dover
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on November 13, 2005, 05:23:11 PM
I will take Wesley 21 to 10 over Ferrum.

What are the realistic chances of Salisbury getting an ECAC playoff bid? Would Brockport State get one as well?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 13, 2005, 05:57:12 PM
I don't think Brockport will with a 5-5 season BUT they did take two 6-4 teams over 8-2 Wesley last year. Salisbury should BUT the ECAC is more fickle than the ncaa commitee.
Boy they could get Widener again. I don't think the MAC will get sll the bids they did last year afterthier poor showings. But all that being said they do have 8 games now and Brockport does play a tough schedule.
I am sure Pat will have those games posted soon
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on November 14, 2005, 12:43:35 PM
Does anyone know when the ECAC bids are going to be announced?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 14, 2005, 01:35:40 PM
I believe the ECAC bids will be announced today, at least that's according to the Salisbury football website.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: narch on November 14, 2005, 01:39:07 PM
refresh my memory...what is the ecac and how are teams chosen - i know i've read it before, but i can't recall what the deal is

congrats to wesley on a great season - i'm sure those defensive coaches are using the words "assignment football" quite a bit this week - looks like wc is pretty stout against the run, so it will be a tough test for ferrum, but if they get that option going...it's a thing of beauty when working...like they're running down hill all day - pitts is probably the 2nd best option qb i've seen (behind dj), so wesley may have had the luxury of playing ssu w/o dj, but they'll get a close approximation this weekend...pitts can play
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 14, 2005, 02:31:34 PM
The ECAC is the (old, postseason) NIT of east coast D-III football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 14, 2005, 02:34:46 PM
Frostburg hosts Moravian
Salisbury hosts F&M

Both Saturday at Noon
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 14, 2005, 03:02:07 PM
nnasid:

Thanks for the good news that Salisbury   ;D      plays at least an additional post season football news.  It's also good to see FSU making it also.


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on November 14, 2005, 08:16:11 PM
NJ,

Congrats, the Gulls get some playoff experience. Good Luck !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 15, 2005, 12:05:25 PM
PA_wesleyfan , theone, and all Wolverine fans:

Good luck to Wesley aganist Ferrum.  If the Wolverines use that "run stop" defense employed aganist Salisbury, it may be a romp!!.  Additionally having home field advantage is an added bonus.  Do the ACFC proud, and get that zero win in the NCAA's off our backs.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 15, 2005, 04:24:17 PM
As of this moment I am planning on making the 2 hrs trek south to Dover. Should be a big crowd. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on November 15, 2005, 10:06:22 PM
Any predictions on how far wesley will go in the playoffs?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 15, 2005, 10:28:55 PM
  If Wesley plays D like they did against Salisbury they should win this week.  The offence needs to be playing well every week to keep going. I don't see many teams in the playoofs who don't have high powered O
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 16, 2005, 12:36:49 PM
to give everyone a little something to ponder prior to a great Saturday for the ACFC (3 teams playing in post-season)

All-Conference teams will be announced late Thursday.

Fan projections??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 17, 2005, 04:40:25 PM
well so much for pondering....The All-ACFC team is on the press release page now
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 18, 2005, 04:49:41 PM
Good luck tomorrow to Wesley in the NCAA's and Salisbury and Frostburg in the ECAC's.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 19, 2005, 09:20:22 AM
I'll give you all a fans view later tonight From the Wesle/Ferrum game. Game will br broadcast from this site and the Wesley web site or Stretch.com
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on November 19, 2005, 02:56:08 PM
Salisbury beats F & M 27-23.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 19, 2005, 03:15:47 PM
wesley ambushes ferrum 59-14 and frostburg loses 14-7
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 19, 2005, 08:46:11 PM
Wesley played a very good game today and their special teams set the tone early for a very one sided victory.  The D virtually shut down Ferrums running game and other than one nice pass and grab held Ferrums passing game ineffective.  Ferrum tried to play with eight men back in pass coverage but Wesley adjusted and ran the ball well and threw some swing passes that Ferrum couldn't. Lee had two catches today that not many receiver on any level would make.
  The game was played with a a minimum of penalties as well as the striped shirts didn't get real involved. I think there was maybe 5 penalties all day. If Wesley plays this well next week they may very well give MHB quick exit too. Maybe  Wesley's second trip to Texas will have a better ending than their last
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on November 20, 2005, 11:20:43 AM
wesley vs UMHB

I THINK THIS WILL BE A REAL TEST FOR THE WOLVERINES. I HAVE FAITH IN THEM AND I THNK THEY CAN PLAY WITH THE BEST  OF THEM WHEN THEY ARE ON!!!

GO WOLVEIRNES
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 20, 2005, 09:08:24 PM
Impressive win by Wesley, Good luck in Texas, keep it going fot the ACFC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on November 21, 2005, 09:30:56 AM
Good luck in Texas, Wesley.  I know Thiel fans couldn't care less who wins, but as a BC fan I hope that if we win we can come pay ya'll a visit instead of flying to Texas.  We have to beat a tough Thiel team before it matters, but I just thought I'd say good luck.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: the source on November 21, 2005, 05:33:58 PM
i have a prediction for the wesley game this week, they are going to get smoked, they have only played two teams that were somewhat good this year being salisbury and brockport.  and they got killed by brockport.  wesley might have the weakest schedule in all of division 3 and it is really going to show this saturday. in the past they would schedule at least some tough schools like rowan, but they would get smoked by them and would keep them out of the playoffs, so they dont even want to schedule rowan anymore.  on another note congrats on your first playoff win in school history but it will be your only one playoff win this year vs powerhouse ferrum
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2005, 06:12:52 PM
Quote from: the source on November 21, 2005, 05:33:58 PM
i have a prediction for the wesley game this week, they are going to get smoked, they have only played two teams that were somewhat good this year being salisbury and brockport. and they got killed by brockport. wesley might have the weakest schedule in all of division 3 and it is really going to show this saturday. in the past they would schedule at least some tough schools like rowan, but they would get smoked by them and would keep them out of the playoffs, so they dont even want to schedule rowan anymore. on another note congrats on your first playoff win in school history but it will be your only one playoff win this year vs powerhouse ferrum
Before you go spouting off about strength of schedule" the (Wrong) source" maybe you should look at Wesley's #1 quality of win rating posted on this site!!!! And before you state things about who is dropping who from their schedules you should resource better.
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Post by: wesley18 on November 21, 2005, 06:37:11 PM
Man now all the haters come out.  I remember at Wesley it was tough to schedule these so called good teams that Source references to, because in a perfect world no one wants to play tough competition.  Let's face it:  If everyone could play patsies and make playoffs they would do it.  it's good to see the alma mater play great football and win in the playoffs. Source what school are you representing? And by the way wat happened to Wesley traveling to Depauw and Averrett and beating both schools?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2005, 08:39:01 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2005, 06:12:52 PM
Before you go spouting off about strength of schedule" the (Wrong) source" maybe you should look at Wesley's #1 quality of win rating posted on this site!!!!

No you shouldn't. That's a flawed measurement and we only print it because it's what the NCAA chooses to use.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2005, 09:43:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2005, 08:39:01 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2005, 06:12:52 PM
Before you go spouting off about strength of schedule" the (Wrong) source" maybe you should look at Wesley's #1 quality of win rating posted on this site!!!!

No you shouldn't. That's a flawed measurement and we only print it because it's what the NCAA chooses to use.
Now Pat you know that and I know that but..... It is in print on this site!!!! ;D I mean it is documented!!!right???

Pat   I was looking at the NCAA site and Wesley is ranked rather high in a lot of their catagories. Should be an interesting match with the Wesley D and MHB O
and vise versa.
     And what did Mr. Cummings think of his trip to Dover?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2005, 10:12:24 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2005, 09:43:25 PM
Now Pat you know that and I know that but..... It is in print on this site!!!! ;D I mean it is documented!!!right???

It is documented that it is a flawed measure. There aren't too many times we choose to put a disclaimer in 14-point bold type but we do on that page.

I do not know what Pat felt about his trip, actually.
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Post by: billybaroo on November 21, 2005, 10:23:28 PM
Have yall seen the Crusader D it is lights out they have given up 26 points in their last 6 games better bring your a game Wesley cause the Cru have for the last month and a half. My prediction Crusaders 27-3 but hey that is just me.
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Post by: @d3jason on November 22, 2005, 08:33:57 AM
ReligionMajor---
Good Luck to the Eagles, too. That program has come a long way since we last met in '94. Credit to Coach Clark for the great job that he and his staff do.

O Billy, Billy, Billy----
Love your handle. I hope the Wolverines can give your Cru a good game. I am looking forward to seeing your D in action, sounds like an impressive group. It will be a big challenge for the Wesley offense.
I am certain the Wolverines have a lot of respect fro your program. It is always interesting to see how you match up against a squad that played for a championship last year. It's my first chance to see some Texas football in action (have always heard that it is impressive as a kid growing up in PA)
Now if your Longhorns could just lose to put Penn State in the BCS!   ;D That's another story.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: billybaroo on November 22, 2005, 11:09:20 AM
Quote from: Conrad on November 22, 2005, 08:33:57 AM
ReligionMajor---
Good Luck to the Eagles, too. That program has come a long way since we last met in '94. Credit to Coach Clark for the great job that he and his staff do.

O Billy, Billy, Billy----
Love your handle. I hope the Wolverines can give your Cru a good game. I am looking forward to seeing your D in action, sounds like an impressive group. It will be a big challenge for the Wesley offense.
I am certain the Wolverines have a lot of respect fro your program. It is always interesting to see how you match up against a squad that played for a championship last year. It's my first chance to see some Texas football in action (have always heard that it is impressive as a kid growing up in PA)
Now if your Longhorns could just lose to put Penn State in the BCS!   ;D That's another story.....

You are the first person to get the billy reference so that is awesome. And I know about the cradle of qbs that PA has supplied to the NFL so I have great respect for that I am looking foward to a good game saturday if you are there you will know me by the t shirt I have on. Hopefully we can welcome you Yankees with a good old TEXAS heat wave. Don't be surprised if it 80 at kick off time. Which is cold for us. As far as the Horns losing dont see it happening by he that is just me. And I have always like Penn State and Joe Pa they had a great year good to see that college football needs Penn State to be good every year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 22, 2005, 11:27:52 AM
Belton, TX forecast for Saturday:  30% chance of showers. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the mid 50s.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 22, 2005, 04:53:04 PM
Key news for South Region playoff teams:

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/?p=153
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 22, 2005, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on November 22, 2005, 11:27:52 AM
Belton, TX forecast for Saturday: 30% chance of showers. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the mid 50s.
Well it will probably be raining footballs too. I don't think the heat would both the Wesley players. It is normally in the mid 90's and very humid in Dover the first month of the season.  Now rain well that could pose a whole different set of Problems
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 22, 2005, 05:22:28 PM
interesting note on who hosts the south final
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 22, 2005, 05:50:46 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 22, 2005, 05:05:22 PM
Well it will probably be raining footballs too. I don't think the heat would both the Wesley players. It is normally in the mid 90's and very humid in Dover the first month of the season.  Now rain well that could pose a whole different set of Problems

Forecast keeps changing.  As of 3:00pm CST, Wunderground.com now says (http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Belton%2C+TX):

Saturday
Cloudy with a 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 50s.

That's a whole different kettle of fish.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: billybaroo on November 23, 2005, 11:18:43 AM
Weather.com just said high of 67 with a 10% chance of rain sounds perfect to me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2005, 11:29:25 PM
 Happy Thanksgiving to all you ACFC fans!!! Hope you all have a safe and healthy holiday!!!


  Go Wesley!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: cruprez on November 24, 2005, 10:00:52 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to our friends in Delaware...Have a safe trip to those coming to Texas and see you on Saturday....oh, yeah, bring your spring clothes and rain gear...temp is to be aroun 73 with an 80% change of Thunderstorm/Rain....of course, this is Texas and the saying is "If you don't like the weather, wait 30 minutes it will change."

Safe Travels to all....

from a Cru mom
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: imad3fanatic on November 24, 2005, 10:24:53 AM
Quote from: cruprez on November 24, 2005, 10:00:52 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to our friends in Delaware...Have a safe trip to those coming to Texas and see you on Saturday....oh, yeah, bring your spring clothes and rain gear...temp is to be aroun 73 with an 80% change of Thunderstorm/Rain....of course, this is Texas and the saying is "If you don't like the weather, wait 30 minutes it will change."

Safe Travels to all....

from a Cru mom

   Overcast in the morning with thunderstorms possible; cool with clouds and sunshine in the afternoon. Winds from the SSE at 9 mph.     High: 74° F     RealFeel: 75° F

Latest Accu-Weather Forecast for Belton Saturday
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CruGuy on November 24, 2005, 07:26:57 PM
notice that we're calling 75 cool
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: imad3fanatic on November 25, 2005, 09:34:01 AM
Latest Forecast for Belton tomorrow

Cloudy in the morning with a couple of thunderstorms, then partly sunny in the afternoon. Winds from the S at 10 mph.     High: 76° F     RealFeel: 74° F
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 26, 2005, 11:39:28 AM
Good luck Wesley!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 01:25:38 PM
Wesley 17 UMHB 7 with 8mins to go in the 1st
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 01:28:30 PM
 Had to go to Wesley football page and stretch to get game
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 01:56:55 PM
Wesley 24 UMHB 14  Wesley passing and UMHB running
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 02:08:55 PM
  Wesley 30 UMHB 14
  Wesley D getting some crushing hits 3  turn overs one a 75 yrd return
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 26, 2005, 02:32:28 PM
My word....it looks like first team to 60 is going to win it in Belton.
Hey..PA...cant get stretch on my computer...how many yards has Warrick thrown for
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 02:38:27 PM
37-20 half

Warrick is over 200 yrds  Beavers 4 catches 180+ yrds 3 tds
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 02:40:34 PM
nna sid if you go thru Wesley page you can get the game

you can get it on Quick time player
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 26, 2005, 02:42:45 PM
Those receivers of WC arent your normal DIII receivers.   If the field is good out there that stat for Beavers doesnt surprise me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 02:47:37 PM
That Kid can run and it sounds like he has run away from the defenders after the catch.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 03:50:50 PM
Another Warwick to Beavers bomb!!!! 46- 29  Wesley holds UMHB Twice inside te ten after a fumble
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 26, 2005, 03:57:50 PM
Hey PA...what has Warrick thrown for?
Beavers??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 04:00:18 PM
I would say over 200 yrds . I don't think JB has a spotter so its hard to say. The D has played well in the red zone
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 26, 2005, 04:07:49 PM
I saw the post in ASC room...nearly 240 for beavers and 4 td's
375 for warrick.

Unbelievable.  What a shot for the ACFC if that holds up.

I'll bet I get a call from Coach Az (as the SID's report to me after each game with a final and highlights)  so should I start humming the Yellow Rose of Texas...or Deep in the Heart of Texas??? :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 04:10:33 PM
I don't kow but I"ll bet the parents will be at Philly INT at 8 tonight.   No on eon campus LOL

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 26, 2005, 04:11:53 PM
PA_wesleyfan:

The scoreboard looks great.  Keep the defensive pressure up and it looks like the Wolverines may have another home game coming to Dover.  Keep the winning up for the ACFC!!!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 26, 2005, 04:12:40 PM
Is it over???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 04:13:44 PM
Next week will be fun.. I may have to move to Dover tho!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 26, 2005, 04:16:46 PM
Wesley needs to start praying for decent weather next weekend.
Not many people can contain those WR's for Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: minni on November 26, 2005, 04:17:18 PM
Final score anyone?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on November 26, 2005, 04:17:33 PM
Congrats to Wesley!!
I may have to tape Army and Navy and make the hour drive north to Dover.  It isn't everyday that a Regional Final is so close to home.  Way to represent the ACFC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 04:19:03 PM
mini   wesley 46 umhb 36
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 26, 2005, 04:21:09 PM
Major applause for the Wesley Wolverines.   A great day for the ACFC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 26, 2005, 04:28:58 PM
PA_wesleyfan:

Congratulations on a big win for the Wesley Wolverines, and the ACFC.  Enjoy the win on the flight home Wesley, and prepare to keep the momentum going next week at home aganist Bridgewater.  Again great win aganist a team with alot of tradition on their home turf.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 26, 2005, 07:27:27 PM
Congratulations Wesley.  You did to the CRU secondary what no one has been able to do this year!  Wow!!!
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Post by: cruprez on November 26, 2005, 08:03:03 PM
Good Luck, Wesley...and Beavers, you are one heck of a ball player!

Finish what you have started, Cinderella Team!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bill McCabe on November 26, 2005, 09:09:26 PM
Congratulations Wesley.  I saw the game today and was very impressed with your team.  I was surprised by the size of your lines.  Your QB was amazing, as was Beavers.  Good luck for the rest of the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on November 26, 2005, 11:04:50 PM
Bridgewater vs Wesley for the South Region Championship.  Early thoughts?

I would say Bridgewater 31-24.
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Post by: roocru on November 26, 2005, 11:17:09 PM
From another ASC poster,

Congratulations to Wesley on a superb performance.  You guys did to UMHB what they did to Trinity last week, that is, you made the turnovers you got count and kept UMHB from taking advantage of your own.  Hats off to your passing attack !!  We would like to see the team that beat us go all the way so best of luck next week and hopefully the two weeks after.  We were the Cinderella team last year in the Stagg Bowl and I hope we just lost to another one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2005, 11:27:07 PM
I don't think you want to pick against Wesley in a shootout!!!
Quote from: religion_major on November 26, 2005, 11:04:50 PM
Bridgewater vs Wesley for the South Region Championship. Early thoughts?

I would say Bridgewater 31-24.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on November 27, 2005, 07:55:34 AM
Congrats Wesley from a BC fan. I may be in Dover Saturday depending on my work schedule. It should be a classic. Good luck Wolverines and Eagles.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on November 27, 2005, 08:02:38 AM
Quote from: Jeremybozz on November 27, 2005, 07:55:34 AM
Congrats Wesley from a BC fan. I may be in Dover Saturday depending on my work schedule. It should be a classic. Good luck Wolverines and Eagles.
Amen...I hope to be there.  Given what I have seen of the Eagles, and what I have read of the Wolverines, it's going to be a good one!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 27, 2005, 09:09:51 AM
This one is going to be fun
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 27, 2005, 09:59:20 AM
sid hope to meet you up ther for down there for me !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 27, 2005, 12:07:13 PM
Depending if I am needed to go to Tenn. with my wrestling team to a tournament that I am not confident yet about getting results from
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on November 27, 2005, 02:57:07 PM
If Wesley beats BC, they would most likely have to travel to Oregon to play Linfield.  That would by far make them the most traveled D3 team this year.  They have traveled to upstate NY, Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana, and Texas so far this year.  Those are just off the top of my head.  Luckily two of their playoff games have been at home, or they may have had to travel even more.
The further they go into the playoffs, the less that butt whooping they put on the Seagulls hurts. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3Waterboy on November 27, 2005, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on November 27, 2005, 02:57:07 PM
If Wesley beats BC, they would most likely have to travel to Oregon to play Linfield.  That would by far make them the most traveled D3 team this year.  They have traveled to upstate NY, Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana, and Texas so far this year.  Those are just off the top of my head.  

The B'water Eagles should be the easiet playoff game...you might want to start looking for reduced-fare flights to Oregon now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on November 27, 2005, 05:37:58 PM
Quote from: D3Waterboy on November 27, 2005, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on November 27, 2005, 02:57:07 PM
If Wesley beats BC, they would most likely have to travel to Oregon to play Linfield.  That would by far make them the most traveled D3 team this year.  They have traveled to upstate NY, Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana, and Texas so far this year.  Those are just off the top of my head.   

The B'water Eagles should be the easiet playoff game...you might want to start looking for reduced-fare flights to Oregon now.


What have you been smoking waterboy?  Did you not hear about how BC's defense shut down two of the top passing offenses in the country this year (W&J and H-SC)?  Did you not hear about BC going up to Thiel and beating them with snow on the ground?  This will be a hard fought game to the end.  The Wesley passing game will be a tough test for BC just as the BC running game will be a tough test for Wesley. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 27, 2005, 05:45:10 PM
Waterboy is laboring under the mistaken assertion from earlier this season that Ferrum is absolutely, positively the best team in Virginia. Jury's still out on that. We'll have some better indication six days from now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on November 27, 2005, 06:00:47 PM
 I was one of those on the Ferrum band wagon. The similar scores to Bridgewater's 9 games through the season were striking and Ferrum had gone unbeaten until CNU.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on November 27, 2005, 06:12:50 PM
what i dont understand is how wesley beats the #4 team in the nation...SOUNDLY and still gets no respect.  You wanna talk about bridgewater's stats..what about wesley shutting down both salisbury and ferrums' rushing attack...who were both #1 in the nation in rushing when wesley played them.  If bridgewater doesn't have 4 GREAT d-backs...then i think they will have ALOT of trouble...especially playing in dover.  People must remember, the passing game is not all wesley has. They have a solid rushing game and a VERY UNDERRATED DEFENSE.   And i have another question for the board. Who had bridgewater played worth talking about? Im just curious.

Wesley beat...

Depauw
Salisbury
Ferrum
#4 UMHB- who by the way lost in the championship last year by 6 points.

JUST GIVE WESLEY THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE!!!!!


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on November 27, 2005, 06:14:27 PM
Wesley fans,
The Wesley team page on d3.com lists the playing field as new-style turf.  Is that the same as the Baltimore Ravens' style field turf or is that something different?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 27, 2005, 06:40:57 PM
That's what our listings refer to, yes, the artificial surfaces such as SprinTurf, FieldTurf, Momentum Turf (which is what the Ravens have), AstroPlay, etc.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on November 27, 2005, 07:31:00 PM
Thanks Pat.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on November 27, 2005, 08:33:08 PM
Quote from: theone on November 27, 2005, 06:12:50 PM
what i dont understand is how wesley beats the #4 team in the nation...SOUNDLY and still gets no respect.  You wanna talk about bridgewater's stats..what about wesley shutting down both salisbury and ferrums' rushing attack...who were both #1 in the nation in rushing when wesley played them.  If bridgewater doesn't have 4 GREAT d-backs...then i think they will have ALOT of trouble...especially playing in dover.  People must remember, the passing game is not all wesley has. They have a solid rushing game and a VERY UNDERRATED DEFENSE.   And i have another question for the board. Who had bridgewater played worth talking about? Im just curious.

Wesley beat...

Depauw
Salisbury
Ferrum
#4 UMHB- who by the way lost in the championship last year by 6 points.

JUST GIVE WESLEY THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE!!!!!




Don't know why you are shouting, and Lord knows Wesley already seem to have the respect you crave...the early poll on who wins the South Regional Championship has Wesley ahead with 70%.

Shoot,  I would have to think Wesley is at least a ten point favorite going in-just humbled Mighty UMHB, a higher seed than BC, playing at home, etc.  I imagine BC will show up for the game just so you folks don't get lonely, but all the early signs I see have Wesley getting tons or respect.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 27, 2005, 08:56:29 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 27, 2005, 06:40:57 PM
That's what our listings refer to, yes, the artificial surfaces such as SprinTurf, FieldTurf, Momentum Turf (which is what the Ravens have), AstroPlay, etc.
Pat I thought field turf was more like what the Eagles have a real grass? All I know is that you can't have tree around it and a lot of other quirky things. and it has black chewed up tire bites in it !!!LOL

  THE ONE!!!!! Geesh ... Enjoy the ride and read all the boards before you go off on one Fan. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on November 27, 2005, 09:10:25 PM
Yeah, BC will show up with its undersized, slower players who won a weak ODAC conference again this year. Hopfully BC can create atleast 5 turnovers so they can stay within 2 touchdowns of Wesley in Dover. :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xbcdad on November 27, 2005, 09:57:12 PM
QuoteYeah, BC will show up with its undersized, slower players who won a weak ODAC conference again this year. Hopfully BC can create atleast 5 turnovers so they can stay within 2 touchdowns of Wesley in Dover. 

I hear you Llama,
I was thinking about making the four hour trip but after checking some of the power ratings and seeing that Wesley is ranked in the top 10 in most while BC is barely in the top 40 or 50 I might just stay home and clean the garage and listen till I can't stand it anymore. At least when we went to San Antonio in 2000 we had the River Walk to visit after the loss.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on November 27, 2005, 10:01:08 PM
Quote from: xbcdad on November 27, 2005, 09:57:12 PM
QuoteYeah, BC will show up with its undersized, slower players who won a weak ODAC conference again this year. Hopfully BC can create atleast 5 turnovers so they can stay within 2 touchdowns of Wesley in Dover. 

I hear you Llama,
I was thinking about making the four hour trip but after checking some of the power ratings and seeing that Wesley is ranked in the top 10 in most while BC is barely in the top 40 or 50 I might just stay home and clean the garage and listen till I can't stand it anymore. At least when we went to San Antonio in 2000 we had the River Walk to visit after the loss.

I guess I should spend my time studying instead of going to the game since the Wesley people tell me it won't be much of a game. :( 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on November 27, 2005, 11:18:58 PM
Trust me xbcdad, there is nothing to see or do in Dover, Delaware.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on November 28, 2005, 03:46:07 AM
  Wesley has lots of respect. They have been on a roll. The Brockport State game means nothing now. 47-0 is inexplicable for how much talent the Wolverines have.
   Wesley vs BC should be a great game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: miz on November 28, 2005, 03:54:57 AM
Quote from: D3Waterboy on November 27, 2005, 03:16:18 PM


The B'water Eagles should be the easiet playoff game...you might want to start looking for reduced-fare flights to Oregon now.

Yeah, take his advice and book tickets to Oregon now.  BC probably won't have anything for ya'.  Heck, they aren't even in Keith McMillen's top 25.........
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 28, 2005, 08:34:00 AM
Quote from: theone on November 27, 2005, 06:12:50 PM
what i dont understand is how wesley beats the #4 team in the nation...SOUNDLY and still gets no respect.  You wanna talk about bridgewater's stats..what about wesley shutting down both salisbury and ferrums' rushing attack...who were both #1 in the nation in rushing when wesley played them.  If bridgewater doesn't have 4 GREAT d-backs...then i think they will have ALOT of trouble...especially playing in dover.  People must remember, the passing game is not all wesley has. They have a solid rushing game and a VERY UNDERRATED DEFENSE.   And i have another question for the board. Who had bridgewater played worth talking about? Im just curious.

Wesley beat...

Depauw
Salisbury
Ferrum
#4 UMHB- who by the way lost in the championship last year by 6 points.

JUST GIVE WESLEY THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE!!!!!

Wesley shut down Mary Hardin-Baylor's rushing attack?  The Crusaders had 264 rushing yards on 73 carries (3.6 yards/carry) with three of their four TDs coming on the ground.  Sure the Wolverines forced four fumbles (which they scored 24 points on, only having to go 53 yards following all four fumble recoveries combined to score that 24 points).

So yeah, Wesley did what they needed to do to beat Mary Hardin-Baylor, but they hardly "shut down their rushing attack."
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 28, 2005, 08:38:03 AM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on November 27, 2005, 11:18:58 PM
Trust me xbcdad, there is nothing to see or do in Dover, Delaware.

I plan on hitting up Dover Downs (casino) on Friday night.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: mizzou_mafia on November 28, 2005, 08:39:46 AM
Quote from: eh ... just call me 'kid' on November 28, 2005, 08:34:00 AM
Quote from: theone on November 27, 2005, 06:12:50 PM
what i dont understand is how wesley beats the #4 team in the nation...SOUNDLY and still gets no respect.  You wanna talk about bridgewater's stats..what about wesley shutting down both salisbury and ferrums' rushing attack...who were both #1 in the nation in rushing when wesley played them.  If bridgewater doesn't have 4 GREAT d-backs...then i think they will have ALOT of trouble...especially playing in dover.  People must remember, the passing game is not all wesley has. They have a solid rushing game and a VERY UNDERRATED DEFENSE.   And i have another question for the board. Who had bridgewater played worth talking about? Im just curious.


Wesley shut down Mary Hardin-Baylor's rushing attack?  The Crusaders had 264 rushing yards on 73 carries (3.6 yards/carry) with three of their four TDs coming on the ground.  Sure the Wolverines forced four fumbles (which they scored 24 points on, only having to go 53 yards following all four fumble recoveries combined to score that 24 points).

So yeah, Wesley did what they needed to do to beat Mary Hardin-Baylor, but they hardly "shut down their rushing attack."

Kid, I agree with you!... in everything but one thing.  theone didn't say Wesley shut down MHB's rushing attack...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 28, 2005, 08:45:08 AM
Quote from: mizzou_mofia on November 28, 2005, 08:39:46 AM
Kid, I agree with you!... in everything but one thing.  theone didn't say Wesley shut down MHB's rushing attack...

Okay ... well ... just in case he was thinking it. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: mizzou_mafia on November 28, 2005, 08:50:25 AM
Quote from: eh ... just call me 'kid' on November 28, 2005, 08:45:08 AM
Quote from: mizzou_mofia on November 28, 2005, 08:39:46 AM
Kid, I agree with you!... in everything but one thing.  theone didn't say Wesley shut down MHB's rushing attack...

Okay ... well ... just in case he was thinking it. :)

Lol!  Glad you have every angle covered Kid, even before the angle materializes.

Those 24 points on 53 yards is an interesting stat.  BC hasn't exactly been mistake/turnover free the past several games, and like UMHB, will have a hard time overcoming a stat like 24 points on 53 yards. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 28, 2005, 09:00:53 AM
Wesley's strength (I know, they seem to have lots of them) is their passing game.

So how did Bridgewater do against some of the top passing teams in the nation this year?

RankSchoolPass YPGResult
1Catholic434.6BC won
3H-SC381.1BC won
5Guilford363.7BC won
6W&J327.3BC won
7Hanover324.3BC won
23Wesley276.6??
24W&L274.9BC won

And this year we faced plenty of nationally ranked receivers including #1 Nick Bublavi (Catholic), #2 Chris Barnette (Guilford), #3 Jack Martin (W&L), #4 Brandon Chambers (Thiel), #5 Drew Smith (H-SC), #18 Mike Russell (Hanover), #23 Aaron Krepps (W&J), and #32 Brian Rolander (H-SC).

Wesley has two great receivers (Marcus Lee and Larry Beavers) ... but Guilford also had Micah Rushing, W&L also had Colton Ward, Thiel also had Tom McEntire, and W&J also had Jon Miller (and as shown above, H-SC had two receivers ranked in the top 35).

I think the difference will be our offensive line versus the Wesley defensive line.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: narch on November 28, 2005, 09:37:01 AM
kid - can i get a defensive comparison of those same teams?...how about rushing ypg?...need some help deciding which way i'm going with this pick :)

my suspicion is that wesley's defense is the best of the bunch and that they are more balanced offensively - i KNOW wesley's defense is better than catholic, hsc and guilford...not sure about w&j and hanover

for what it's worth, holding umhb to 264 yards and 3.6 ypc isn't shutting them down, but it is certainly containing them...umhb averaged 4.8 ypc on the season (with the wesley game in the books...it was probably 4.9 ypc before the wesley game), and throwing a running team over 2 yards per possession "off schedule" is big...forces them to throw in situations that they are accustomed to running in
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 28, 2005, 09:50:17 AM
Quote from: narch on November 28, 2005, 09:37:01 AM
kid - can i get a defensive comparison of those same teams? [...]

The defensive statistical comparison would be in Wesley's favor.  Our defensive stats are all out of wack after facing five of the top seven passing teams in the country.  So on paper, Wesley has the edge on the defensive side of the ball.  Not to mention they are a lot bigger (their D-line averages something absurd like 6-3, 275).

Quote from: narch on November 28, 2005, 09:37:01 AM
[...]
my suspicion is that wesley's defense is the best of the bunch and that they are more balanced offensively - i KNOW wesley's defense is better than catholic, hsc and guilford...not sure about w&j and hanover
[...]

Yeah, I'd agree (on paper that is, seeing I haven't seen them play yet).  Of the teams we've faced this year, I'd say Thiel and W&L had the best defenses.  They did hold us to season-lows of 24 and 17 points, respectively.

Quote from: narch on November 28, 2005, 09:37:01 AM
[...] need some help deciding which way i'm going with this pick :)
[...]

The Born-Power Index has Wesley as a two touchdown favorite.  I'd agree.  I have faith in Clark, Colbert, and Higgison, to come up with a game plan to make the game competitive, but Bridgewater will have to play a near flawless game to win this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BigMikeA78 on November 28, 2005, 11:23:05 AM
Kid, they may have Wesley as a 2 TD favorite, but considering UMHB was able to run for over 200 yards in the first half against Wesley.  I think BC, if they stay committed to the run, with the duo of Young and Washington can turn this into a clock game and win it in a low scoring dogfight.  Also, when you add in the scrambling ability of Highfill, I think BC can definitely give Wesley's defense fits.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on November 28, 2005, 11:26:34 AM
I think Wesley will get at least one big play TD against the BC defense, but will give up at least one long run to the BC offense.  Bottom line, I think it comes down to turnovers and special teams. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on November 28, 2005, 01:27:39 PM
any preditions on the upcoming games?!?!

my predicitons

Wesley  45
Bridgewater 19

Rowan 30
Del Val 35

UW-WHIT... 33
Linfield...30

Mt. Union 40
Capital 20
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BigMikeA78 on November 28, 2005, 02:08:08 PM
Hey, theone...i would be flat out shocked to see BC lose by 26 as you are predicting...what makes you think Wesley will be able to beat BC by that margin?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on November 28, 2005, 04:06:10 PM
Quote from: theone on November 28, 2005, 01:27:39 PM
any preditions on the upcoming games?!?!

my predicitons

Wesley  45
Bridgewater 19

Rowan 30
Del Val 35

UW-WHIT... 33
Linfield...30

Mt. Union 40
Capital 20


I think you have way too much offense in both the East and South finals.  I think that the West final may be lower scoring than that based on last week's results but Linfield has put up big numbers against some very good teams.  I think that the BC/Wesley score is no more than a seven point spread unless one of the two teams has a -3 or worse turnover rate.  I think the Rowan/DVC score will be something like 17-14 DVC due to the way Rowan's defense is playing and the fact that Rowan's #1 quarterback is out for the year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 28, 2005, 08:00:24 PM
The only problem with those stats are that Wesley doesn't take 45 plays to get 276yds and that includes a game that was less than stellar at Brockport
Quote from: eh ... just call me 'kid' on November 28, 2005, 09:00:53 AM
Wesley's strength (I know, they seem to have lots of them) is their passing game.

So how did Bridgewater do against some of the top passing teams in the nation this year?

RankSchoolPass YPGResult
1Catholic434.6BC won
3H-SC381.1BC won
5Guilford363.7BC won
6W&J327.3BC won
7Hanover324.3BC won
23Wesley276.6??
24W&L274.9BC won

And this year we faced plenty of nationally ranked receivers including #1 Nick Bublavi (Catholic), #2 Chris Barnette (Guilford), #3 Jack Martin (W&L), #4 Brandon Chambers (Thiel), #5 Drew Smith (H-SC), #18 Mike Russell (Hanover), #23 Aaron Krepps (W&J), and #32 Brian Rolander (H-SC).

Wesley has two great receivers (Marcus Lee and Larry Beavers) ... but Guilford also had Micah Rushing, W&L also had Colton Ward, Thiel also had Tom McEntire, and W&J also had Jon Miller (and as shown above, H-SC had two receivers ranked in the top 35).

I think the difference will be our offensive line versus the Wesley defensive line.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on November 28, 2005, 08:25:01 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 28, 2005, 08:00:24 PM
The only problem with those stats are that Wesley doesn't take 45 plays to get 276yds and that includes a game that was less than stellar at Brockport
Quote from: eh ... just call me 'kid' on November 28, 2005, 09:00:53 AM
Wesley's strength (I know, they seem to have lots of them) is their passing game.

So how did Bridgewater do against some of the top passing teams in the nation this year?

RankSchoolPass YPGResult
1Catholic434.6BC won
3H-SC381.1BC won
5Guilford363.7BC won
6W&J327.3BC won
7Hanover324.3BC won
23Wesley276.6??
24W&L274.9BC won

And this year we faced plenty of nationally ranked receivers including #1 Nick Bublavi (Catholic), #2 Chris Barnette (Guilford), #3 Jack Martin (W&L), #4 Brandon Chambers (Thiel), #5 Drew Smith (H-SC), #18 Mike Russell (Hanover), #23 Aaron Krepps (W&J), and #32 Brian Rolander (H-SC).

Wesley has two great receivers (Marcus Lee and Larry Beavers) ... but Guilford also had Micah Rushing, W&L also had Colton Ward, Thiel also had Tom McEntire, and W&J also had Jon Miller (and as shown above, H-SC had two receivers ranked in the top 35).

I think the difference will be our offensive line versus the Wesley defensive line.

Fine then let's talk about BC's results in terms of opponent's total offense:

Rank  School  Total YPG Result

#2                              H-SC                              525.2                           BC Won
#6                              W&J                               501.8                           BC Won
#13                          Catholic                           470.7                           BC Won
#26                          Guilford                            437.5                           BC Won

We can also add a similar comparison for Wesley's opponents:

Rank  School  Total YPG Result
#15                           Bridgewater                   459.9                               ??
#16                           Ferrum                            458.2                           Wesley Won
#35                           Salisbury                         421.2                           Wesley Won

We have now acounted for the run/pass differential in play calling by using total offense.  Both teams have faired well against the nation's top offenses with BC facing slightly better offenses statisticly.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on November 28, 2005, 08:35:15 PM
Both of these teams have a very limited sample against the top teams in terms of total defense in the nation.  Here is the comparison:

Bridgewater

Rank  School  Total YPG Allowed Result
#10         Thiel             253.0            BC Won
#30         Wesley         272.6             ??


Wesley

Rank  School  Total YPG Allowed Result
#26         UMHB                267.7        Wesley Won
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on November 28, 2005, 08:36:26 PM
mr religion-major...

What can bridgwater do against a solid rushing attack and a recieving corp that consist of 4 very good recievers.  Lets not forget that beavers and Lee aren't the only recievers who have been producing for the wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on November 28, 2005, 08:50:15 PM
Quote from: theone on November 28, 2005, 08:36:26 PM
mr religion-major...

What can bridgwater do against a solid rushing attack and a recieving corp that consist of 4 very good recievers.  Lets not forget that beavers and Lee aren't the only recievers who have been producing for the wolverines.

Bridgewater's secondary has had an eye for the ball lately.  Guys have been making big plays in space against good receivers.  Thiel had a fairly balanced attack, but they relied on speed more than size where I see that Wesley's offense is bigger than Thiel's.  I see Wesley's O as the biggest test this BC defense has faced this season for preciecly the reason that you mention.  While we're talking though, what can Wesley's highly rated defense do to stop an offense that can beat a team both on the ground and in the air?  BC has a very deep backfield and a solid core of recievers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bmore BC on November 28, 2005, 08:56:35 PM
Thenone,

You are acting as if wesley is the only team with 4 good recievers. Not only does BC have 4 good recievers, but a good tightend and 2 all conference backs. BC plays 4 corners a game and has a 1st team AA safety just in case anyone gets beat in the secondary. Not to mention BC has experience in big games, which can not be understated. Matter-a-fact BC's starting running backs may have more playoff wins then playoff caliber teams wesley has faced the last 4 years. I think our defense has proven they can contain high powered offenses and win. Wesley has to be the only team to be shutout in a regular season game and claim they have a high powered offense. The question is who will stop the BC offense.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on November 28, 2005, 08:57:35 PM
wesley has been shutting down teams that have been good across the board in Depauw, Salisbury, Ferrum, and Mary Hardin Baylor.  UMHB by far was the best team they played, and they did an excellent job containing their offense. I AM NOT SAYING THAT WESLEY SHUT THEM DOWN (as i was qouted in saying in an earlier post).  Wesley basically gave UMHB 14 point with turnovers in the 2nd half...but hey...thats how football is.  They did well with stoppin their dangerous recievers and did a great shut containing the rushing attack.  Lets not forget that they did win IN TEXAS, which is big for a team who everyone thought had absolutly no chance.  Hats off to the wolverines and good luck saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on November 28, 2005, 09:03:41 PM
Is this the same UMHB that ran the ball as a way of scoring with two minutes left in the first half at Mount Union last year is all of the sudden a balenced offense?  I will make no claims about DePauw since I have not looked at their stats, but nobody in their right mind would claim that Sulisbury or Ferrum were balanced offenses.  Most of their yards came on the ground.  I don't think that either Wesley or BC can claim to have beaten a truely balanced offense yet this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on November 28, 2005, 09:06:23 PM
bmore BC

Lets be honest here...
do you really think brockport would beat wesley had it not been for the rain and mud??  I kno it sounds like an excuse, and im taking NOTHING away from brockport, but lets be for real?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on November 28, 2005, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: theone on November 28, 2005, 08:57:35 PM
 Lets not forget that they did win IN TEXAS, which is big for a team who everyone thought had absolutly no chance.  

BINGO! And that is exactly why BC will play toe-to-toe with Wesley this weekend. UMHB simply thought they could play thier game plan and beat Wesley. BC will not overlook Wesley and will scheme to slow their offense not just try to outscore it. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bmore BC on November 28, 2005, 09:56:00 PM
Quote from: theone on November 28, 2005, 09:06:23 PM
bmore BC

Lets be honest here...
do you really think brockport would beat wesley had it not been for the rain and mud??  I kno it sounds like an excuse, and im taking NOTHING away from brockport, but lets be for real?

You didn't get beat you got shutout and blown out. There is a big difference. By the way, both teams play in the same weather.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: miz on November 28, 2005, 09:57:13 PM
Quote from: theone on November 28, 2005, 09:06:23 PM
bmore BC

Lets be honest here...
do you really think brockport would beat wesley had it not been for the rain and mud??  I kno it sounds like an excuse, and im taking NOTHING away from brockport, but lets be for real?

Why, did Brockport not have to play in the mud also?  

Hey, great win for Wesley agains UMHB.  But if you guys think BC is going to come up there and get walked or something you're in for a very rude awakening.  This is a battle tested, playoff proven program.  BC knows how to win and knows how to beat good teams, which Wesley has certainly proven to be.  We have a lot of playoff-caliber atheletes that will be left in Bridgewater this weekend b/c of the depth of the program.  I'm sure Wesley has some good guys too, but I don't think they can match BC player-for-player in a game of this magnitude.  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on November 28, 2005, 10:07:54 PM
  Wesley is very strong on offense and defense. If it was just those 2 components then Wesley would be favored. However, as Chuck Noll once said,"Special Teams is one third of the game."
   I am not sure how Wesley's special teams are doing but BC's special teams have been special recently giving me hope as an Eagles fan that this game will be very close.
   BC has blocked punts,FG's,PAT's (returned one for a safety vs W&L). Not to mention Awkard and Washington have been among the nations elite in Punt Returns and Kickoff Returns over the past 3 years.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 28, 2005, 10:32:39 PM
 You can talk all you want about being battle tested and you can throw Brockport out there all you want too. But all that matters in the end is the final score and Wesley score sand scores and scores. Defensively,Offenesively and on Speacil teams.
  The fact is and remains Wesley lost to Brockport for a few reasons.
  !. B-port had two weeks to prepare and the mud played right into their plans to play 7 and 8 man pass coverage.
  2. Wesley was not running the ball well at all then with an few injured linemen and very little experienced back-ups
  3. B-port got a few early scores on turnovers and special teams.
   4. B-port may play the toughest schedule in the country and was doing some collecting and Wesley was the teams they took all their frustrations out on.   
   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 28, 2005, 10:53:04 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 28, 2005, 10:32:39 PM
You can talk all you want about being battle tested and you can throw Brockport out there all you want too. But all that matters in the end is the final score and Wesley score sand scores and scores. Defensively,Offenesively and on Speacil teams.
  The fact is and remains Wesley lost to Brockport for a few reasons.
  !. B-port had two weeks to prepare and the mud played right into their plans to play 7 and 8 man pass coverage.
  2. Wesley was not running the ball well at all then with an few injured linemen and very little experienced back-ups
  3. B-port got a few early scores on turnovers and special teams.
   4. B-port may play the toughest schedule in the country and was doing some collecting and Wesley was the teams they took all their frustrations out on.   
   

Excuses, excuses.

Here is Bridgewater's for losing to McDaniel;

They kicked our you-know-what in the second half.  Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: miz on November 28, 2005, 11:13:58 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 28, 2005, 10:32:39 PM
You can talk all you want about being battle tested and you can throw Brockport out there all you want too. But all that matters in the end is the final score and Wesley score sand scores and scores. Defensively,Offenesively and on Speacil teams.
  The fact is and remains Wesley lost to Brockport for a few reasons.
  !. B-port had two weeks to prepare and the mud played right into their plans to play 7 and 8 man pass coverage.
  2. Wesley was not running the ball well at all then with an few injured linemen and very little experienced back-ups
  3. B-port got a few early scores on turnovers and special teams.
   4. B-port may play the toughest schedule in the country and was doing some collecting and Wesley was the teams they took all their frustrations out on.   
   

Good grief, I'll bring some tissues for you on Sat. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 28, 2005, 11:32:59 PM
No one here is crying!!!!Just stating FACT!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skoaltrain on November 29, 2005, 12:07:06 AM
I was looking at Google Earth and was trying to spy the football stadium.  From what I can tell the field is about 1 block southeast of duPont Tennis Courts.

Can anyone verify?  From what it looks like, Wesley College is spread out over a large area with a lot of residential housing in between.  If anyone else has Google Earth loaded, would Wolverine Stadium be on or near N. Bradford Street? From the looks of this map, it looks like it's under construction.

Just curious as we plan on making the trip this weekend.  Never been to Dover but these BC Alumni are looking forward to it. 

Where do we tailgate?  I don't see much parking?  Also, any good insight to a nice hotel?  Food? Beverage?  We need a Good Wolverine to step up and share their insight as we look forward to a great D3 football game this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: miz on November 29, 2005, 12:46:51 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 28, 2005, 10:32:39 PM
You can talk all you want about being battle tested and you can throw Brockport out there all you want too. But all that matters in the end is the final score and Wesley score sand scores and scores. Defensively,Offenesively and on Speacil teams.
  The fact is and remains Wesley lost to Brockport for a few reasons.
  !. B-port had two weeks to prepare and the mud played right into their plans to play 7 and 8 man pass coverage.
  2. Wesley was not running the ball well at all then with an few injured linemen and very little experienced back-ups
  3. B-port got a few early scores on turnovers and special teams.
   4. B-port may play the toughest schedule in the country and was doing some collecting and Wesley was the teams they took all their frustrations out on.   
   

Your forgot to mention reason # 5 that Wesley lost that game:

5. The Brockport loss was part of the Kennedy assassination coverup plot 8)

Title: Re:Skoaltrain
Post by: Chuckandduck7 on November 29, 2005, 03:40:00 AM
SkoalTrain,  there are ton of restaraunts around the Wesley College Campus all located a short distance away on North Dupont Highway(the main road through Dover) For chain restaraunts they have a Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Golden Corral, Pizzaria UNO, Lonestar Steakhouse, as well as a ton of others and all your fast food needs as well. AS for Hotels their are many as well, their is the Sheriton on North Dupont, Fairfeild Inn on the same strip, Dover Budget Inn, Comfort Inn,and Holiday Inn to name a few.  They also have the Dover downs Hotel and restaraunt that has slots and simulcast racing in addition to the food and lodging. We have what we consider to bea mall here right on the main strip as well that has a decent amount of shops, full food court and a movie theater.... Dover does have good accomidations,it isnt the most happening place you could be but it does offer a great venue to see a game and some good old fashioned rowdy tailgating.....I am looking forward to a great game between two well deserving teams.... hope the stay in dover is a comfortable one...... well i guess not to comfortable ;) hope this info helps out
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on November 29, 2005, 05:43:51 AM
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Title: Parking
Post by: Bwana on November 29, 2005, 07:44:40 AM
Quote from: Chuckandduck7 on November 29, 2005, 03:40:00 AM
SkoalTrain,  there are ton of restaraunts around the Wesley College Campus all located a short distance away on North Dupont Highway(the main road through Dover) For chain restaraunts they have a Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Golden Corral, Pizzaria UNO, Lonestar Steakhouse, as well as a ton of others and all your fast food needs as well. AS for Hotels their are many as well, their is the Sheriton on North Dupont, Fairfeild Inn on the same strip, Dover Budget Inn, Comfort Inn,and Holiday Inn to name a few.  They also have the Dover downs Hotel and restaraunt that has slots and simulcast racing in addition to the food and lodging. We have what we consider to bea mall here right on the main strip as well that has a decent amount of shops, full food court and a movie theater.... Dover does have good accomidations,it isnt the most happening place you could be but it does offer a great venue to see a game and some good old fashioned rowdy tailgating.....I am looking forward to a great game between two well deserving teams.... hope the stay in dover is a comfortable one...... well i guess not to comfortable ;) hope this info helps out

The drive directions to wesley from DC concludes with "Turn left onto Fulton street for Admissions parking in Faculty and Staff parking area on your left."

The map on the website if sort of fuzzy...if one parks near the admissions parking, how close are you to Wolverine Stadium?  Where do you or other wesley folks recommend parking?
Title: Directions
Post by: Bwana on November 29, 2005, 08:53:54 AM
A quick look at mapquest and google image yield two different sets of directions from DC to Dover/ Wesley...

Both routes take you over rte 50, then to 301.  Then:

a) Mapquest has one take 302>MD 454>DE 8>state street...sort of coming in from the South
b) Google Local has one take 300(sudlersville road)>42/15(seven hickories rd)>13 (N. dupont HWY)>State street...this route brings you in the north side of town.

I do not know these roads, and hope some of you folks out in wolverine land might recommend one route or the other.  Both routes claim to be the same length, but route b is offered at 30 minutes longer drive time...

Again, any and all suggestions are appreciated!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 29, 2005, 09:31:10 AM
Take the first set of directions.  That brings you in from the west side of Dover and easier access to Wolverine Stadium.  No reason to go north of Dover and back down, just a waste of time.  You'll take a left at Governor's Ave and head north for five blocks before turning left on Mary St.  Parking will be an issue...major issue.  Most of the parking is off street.  The stadium is tucked in between a cemetery and housing.  The "tailgating" section is right by the field - south endzone, and is actually a grass field off the street. 

As far as hotel accomodations, we have plenty.  At least enough for extra 100,000 NASCAR fans that come here twice a year.  The Sheraton is currently under some reconstruction, but I don't think they are closed.  Route 13 is the major corridor through Dover and you'll  find everything you need there.  Wesley is closer to historic downtown.  Also, the Golden Coral is closed due to a fire.  But really, why would you want to eat there?  Dover Downs is the gem, but you'll pay for it.  If you stay till sunday morning and want to have something good before you leave, have the sunday brunch at Michele's in the Dover Downs Hotel.  HUGE! You might need a reservation.

If you get there on Friday and are in need of libation, I suggest a couple of local joints (besides you can go to TGIFridays almost anywhere.  They are: Bubba's - route 13 north bound, half club, half sports bar, on Friday night I'd stay to the sports bar end.  LobbyHouse - Loockerman street, beneath Treadway Towers, warm atmosphere, can get roudy if a good band is playing.  W.T. Smithers - State St. downtown, usual towny bar.

Remember if you come, don't bring your cancer stix.  Delaware is non-smoking.  And since I was just in VA for Thanksgiving, I'm glad, cough, choke, spit.

Enjoy your stay and good luck to all.  These are two good teams and I can't wait to see a great college football game. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 29, 2005, 10:30:28 AM
Note on the directions... You can turn left immediately following the train tracks coming into Dover on route 8.  The directions I gave previously take you past the college which I thought to be a nice touch considering all the new building they have been doing.  Plus, it is only a couple of blocks longer.  If you stay (hotels) on route 13 you want to take State St towards downtown Dover on gameday, then bear right onto Govenors Ave after Silver lake (you'll see it) then go to Mary Street.  One other note, there is no sales tax in DE, so if you need to do some x-mas shopping, you might get a better deal.  (no, i don't work for the chamber of commerce).  Happy travels.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2005, 04:48:55 PM
DRAGON
  Whew glad you had all that . I took rt 15 once pre rt1 and it is a trip and a half....
    Be reminded Bridgewater fans that they did not let anyone out at half time unless you bought a new ticket!!!
    There is a lot of traffic around the RT 1 corridor But the food is goooood worth the wait.      
Title: Re: Directions
Post by: CBE on November 29, 2005, 07:22:40 PM
Quote from: Bwana on November 29, 2005, 08:53:54 AM
A quick look at mapquest and google image yield two different sets of directions from DC to Dover/ Wesley...

Both routes take you over rte 50, then to 301.  Then:

a) Mapquest has one take 302>MD 454>DE 8>state street...sort of coming in from the South
b) Google Local has one take 300(sudlersville road)>42/15(seven hickories rd)>13 (N. dupont HWY)>State street...this route brings you in the north side of town.

I do not know these roads, and hope some of you folks out in wolverine land might recommend one route or the other.  Both routes claim to be the same length, but route b is offered at 30 minutes longer drive time...

Again, any and all suggestions are appreciated!

Bwana,
I've driven option A from Baltimore a couple times.  Not a bad trip.  Don't know option B.  My GPS takes me up 95 from Bmore.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on November 29, 2005, 09:03:11 PM
 So according to the Daily News Record article Wesley's game with conference rival Brockport State is not in region while BC's non conference loss to McDaniel is in region.
  Those are simply the rules.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2005, 10:30:11 PM
  Bozz   There was talk that the Brockport game will be a region game in the future. I think there are one or two instances that league opponents are in different regions.

CBE    Route A is better for sure. I have taken RT 15 before from central Delaware and it goes north south east an west and if you miss your turn at one of the "CORNERS" you could end up back in VA LOL
Quote from: Jeremybozz on November 29, 2005, 09:03:11 PM
So according to the Daily News Record article Wesley's game with conference rival Brockport State is not in region while BC's non conference loss to McDaniel is in region.
Those are simply the rules.
Quote from: CBE on November 29, 2005, 07:22:40 PM
Quote from: Bwana on November 29, 2005, 08:53:54 AM
A quick look at mapquest and google image yield two different sets of directions from DC to Dover/ Wesley...

Both routes take you over rte 50, then to 301.  Then:

a) Mapquest has one take 302>MD 454>DE 8>state street...sort of coming in from the South
b) Google Local has one take 300(sudlersville road)>42/15(seven hickories rd)>13 (N. dupont HWY)>State street...this route brings you in the north side of town.

I do not know these roads, and hope some of you folks out in wolverine land might recommend one route or the other.  Both routes claim to be the same length, but route b is offered at 30 minutes longer drive time...

Again, any and all suggestions are appreciated!

Bwana,
I've driven option A from Baltimore a couple times. Not a bad trip. Don't know option B. My GPS takes me up 95 from Bmore.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: patcummings on November 30, 2005, 11:49:39 AM
I followed the college direction to get to campus, then randomly drove northwest from campus to find it.  Shouldn't take you long to do the same.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Chris Panter, GMC SID on November 30, 2005, 12:28:58 PM
Be sure to hit Smithers on State Street in the 'old' historical district the night before or after...as an alum, I know some of the good spots you may not hear about.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bmore BC on November 30, 2005, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: dedragon on November 29, 2005, 09:31:10 AM


R Delaware is non-smoking.  And since I was just in VA for Thanksgiving, I'm glad, cough, choke, spit.


Just curious if smoking is illegal in Delaware, what will happen when wesley smokes that L given to them by Bridgewater?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pakownr97 on November 30, 2005, 01:50:22 PM
Quote from: Jeremybozz on November 29, 2005, 09:03:11 PM
So according to the Daily News Record article Wesley's game with conference rival Brockport State is not in region while BC's non conference loss to McDaniel is in region.
  Those are simply the rules.

Jeremy,

I think the deal is this:

1.  BC's loss to McD is in region because both teams are in conferences recognized as South region by the NCAA.

2.  Wesley's loss to Brockport is out-of-region even though Brockport is in the same conference because the ACFC is NOT a recognized conference (only six teams) and Brockport is located in the East region.  In other words, if the ACFC were to add another team, after the probation period, Wesley and Brockport's games would be considered in-region for both.  Clear as mud?

???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 30, 2005, 03:00:02 PM
If you're coming over on Friday and want to watch some more football... the DE state High  School Championship is going to be played in Dover at Delaware State University at 7:30 p.m.  It is right off route 13.  Just in case anyone is interested. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 30, 2005, 07:04:19 PM
hahaha Panter you were in there long before you were an alum. Chris and I will be down Sat.  Mr. B ;D
Quote from: Chris Panter, GMC SID on November 30, 2005, 12:28:58 PM
Be sure to hit Smithers on State Street in the 'old' historical district the night before or after...as an alum, I know some of the good spots you may not hear about.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 30, 2005, 07:11:34 PM
The only probale is that Buff st. left the conference for the NJAC so we need two!!!  But seriously I thought that they were going to count them in the future.
Quote from: pakownr97 on November 30, 2005, 01:50:22 PM
Quote from: Jeremybozz on November 29, 2005, 09:03:11 PM
So according to the Daily News Record article Wesley's game with conference rival Brockport State is not in region while BC's non conference loss to McDaniel is in region.
  Those are simply the rules.

Jeremy,

I think the deal is this:

1.  BC's loss to McD is in region because both teams are in conferences recognized as South region by the NCAA.

2.  Wesley's loss to Brockport is out-of-region even though Brockport is in the same conference because the ACFC is NOT a recognized conference (only six teams) and Brockport is located in the East region.  In other words, if the ACFC were to add another team, after the probation period, Wesley and Brockport's games would be considered in-region for both.  Clear as mud?

???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 30, 2005, 07:37:12 PM
all that is good...but the conference still wont be able to get an automatic berth.

since the conference was formed after (Pcol..please fill in this blank) they are not eligible for an automatic berth for the playoffs.  Single-sport conferences formed after a certain date are not eligible.

PA Wes....wont be making the trip this weekend...things have come up here.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 30, 2005, 08:01:00 PM
sorry NNASID maybe i'll catch you next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 01, 2005, 05:51:09 AM
www.dnronline.com/sports_details.php?AID=1839&CHID=3//
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 01, 2005, 07:47:21 AM
Quote from: dedragon on November 29, 2005, 09:31:10 AM
Take the first set of directions.  That brings you in from the west side of Dover and easier access to Wolverine Stadium.  No reason to go north of Dover and back down, just a waste of time.  You'll take a left at Governor's Ave and head north for five blocks before turning left on Mary St.  Parking will be an issue...major issue.  Most of the parking is off street.  The stadium is tucked in between a cemetery and housing.  The "tailgating" section is right by the field - south endzone, and is actually a grass field off the street. 

As far as hotel accomodations, we have plenty.  At least enough for extra 100,000 NASCAR fans that come here twice a year.  The Sheraton is currently under some reconstruction, but I don't think they are closed.  Route 13 is the major corridor through Dover and you'll  find everything you need there.  Wesley is closer to historic downtown.  Also, the Golden Coral is closed due to a fire.  But really, why would you want to eat there?  Dover Downs is the gem, but you'll pay for it.  If you stay till sunday morning and want to have something good before you leave, have the sunday brunch at Michele's in the Dover Downs Hotel.  HUGE! You might need a reservation.

If you get there on Friday and are in need of libation, I suggest a couple of local joints (besides you can go to TGIFridays almost anywhere.  They are: Bubba's - route 13 north bound, half club, half sports bar, on Friday night I'd stay to the sports bar end.  LobbyHouse - Loockerman street, beneath Treadway Towers, warm atmosphere, can get roudy if a good band is playing.  W.T. Smithers - State St. downtown, usual towny bar.

Remember if you come, don't bring your cancer stix.  Delaware is non-smoking.  And since I was just in VA for Thanksgiving, I'm glad, cough, choke, spit.

Enjoy your stay and good luck to all.  These are two good teams and I can't wait to see a great college football game. 

Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Directions
Post by: Bwana on December 01, 2005, 07:48:05 AM
Quote from: CBE on November 29, 2005, 07:22:40 PM
Quote from: Bwana on November 29, 2005, 08:53:54 AM
A quick look at mapquest and google image yield two different sets of directions from DC to Dover/ Wesley...

Both routes take you over rte 50, then to 301.  Then:

a) Mapquest has one take 302>MD 454>DE 8>state street...sort of coming in from the South
b) Google Local has one take 300(sudlersville road)>42/15(seven hickories rd)>13 (N. dupont HWY)>State street...this route brings you in the north side of town.

I do not know these roads, and hope some of you folks out in wolverine land might recommend one route or the other.  Both routes claim to be the same length, but route b is offered at 30 minutes longer drive time...

Again, any and all suggestions are appreciated!

Bwana,
I've driven option A from Baltimore a couple times.  Not a bad trip.  Don't know option B.  My GPS takes me up 95 from Bmore.

Gracias, mi amigo!  I appreciate the help!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 01, 2005, 09:52:44 AM
Fair game weather.

No injuries!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 01, 2005, 11:08:39 AM
Quote from: pakownr97 on November 30, 2005, 01:50:22 PM
Quote from: Jeremybozz on November 29, 2005, 09:03:11 PM
So according to the Daily News Record article Wesley's game with conference rival Brockport State is not in region while BC's non conference loss to McDaniel is in region.
  Those are simply the rules.

Jeremy,

I think the deal is this:

1.  BC's loss to McD is in region because both teams are in conferences recognized as South region by the NCAA.

2.  Wesley's loss to Brockport is out-of-region even though Brockport is in the same conference because the ACFC is NOT a recognized conference (only six teams) and Brockport is located in the East region.  In other words, if the ACFC were to add another team, after the probation period, Wesley and Brockport's games would be considered in-region for both.  Clear as mud?

???

No, the ACFC will never be a recognized conference, at least not unless some fundamental D-III rules are changed:
http://www.d3football.com/atr.php?id=112
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BigMikeA78 on December 01, 2005, 11:27:30 AM
Any of you Wesley fans and locals out there...I have a question for you, where is the best area to park come gameday for the big game on Saturday?

I see on the campus map that there is parking available on campus, but that seems to be a few blocks away from the stadium.

Please advise and thanks ahead of time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Chris Panter, GMC SID on December 01, 2005, 12:13:44 PM
C'mon, you knew I had to throw that in there...

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 01, 2005, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: BigMikeA78 on December 01, 2005, 11:27:30 AM
Any of you Wesley fans and locals out there...I have a question for you, where is the best area to park come gameday for the big game on Saturday?

I see on the campus map that there is parking available on campus, but that seems to be a few blocks away from the stadium.

Please advise and thanks ahead of time.
Parking??  Good luck.  Off street parking is your best bet.  Just drive around till you find something.  Unless you get there early, you'll have to hoof it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BigMikeA78 on December 01, 2005, 02:39:03 PM
Thanks dedragon....and when you say, get there early....how early are we talking for a noon kickoff?

10:30, or should I try and get there earlier then that...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 01, 2005, 03:08:29 PM
What time did the gates open for the Ferrum game? There should be 1000 - 1500 fans coming from BC. They like to take their seats early, listen to the band and watch the guys rev-up for action. As for me, I'm a fence walker! ;D

Everyone drive safe and we will see you Saturday a.m. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wrighthall220 on December 01, 2005, 03:21:55 PM
Llama.. fence walker is an understatement.. how many miles have you done this season?!?!  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 01, 2005, 04:48:45 PM
Quote from: wrighthall220 on December 01, 2005, 03:21:55 PM
Llama.. fence walker is an understatement.. how many miles have you done this season?!?!  :D

Not sure? But I am on my third pair of combat boots! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Olinemom on December 02, 2005, 12:51:40 AM
llama,
do you have any idea where Stone Station is going to be set up?  I am sorry to hear that Skoaltrain will not be able to make it.  I think our bus is due in around 10:30.  Ellen says that it is full to the brim.  Hope that 3rd bus gets filled so JeremyBozz can get there.  I think we'll be there en masse.  The band members who have to come back to play for the Oratorio Choir concert that night are going up in the van, so they can go to both events.  I call that dedication.

Wesley people--how many seats are there at Wesley?  I've never been there.  Are there seats on both sides like at BC?  Thanks in advance to anyone who can give me the answers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 02, 2005, 06:01:32 AM
Wesley's team page on this site says the Wesley capacity is 2,500 compared with 3,000 at Jopson Field at BC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 02, 2005, 07:53:21 AM
Quote from: Jeremybozz on December 02, 2005, 06:01:32 AM
Wesley's team page on this site says the Wesley capacity is 2,500 compared with 3,000 at Jopson Field at BC.

It could be right snug on Saturday...but I reckon that will help keep folks warm!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: mizzou_mafia on December 02, 2005, 09:02:04 AM
Wesley crew,

Do any local radio stations carry Wesley football games?  If so, at what frequency? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 02, 2005, 09:08:24 AM
Miz---

1150 WDEL has carried that last couple of games. I do not know if they are broadcasting the game this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 02, 2005, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: Conrad on December 02, 2005, 09:08:24 AM
Miz---

1150 WDEL has carried that last couple of games. I do not know if they are broadcasting the game this week.

Conrad-thanks for the skinny!

See link:
http://www.wdel.com/news.php?n=S&s=3

WDEL will be carrying the game, coverage staring at 1145 hours.

Ah, the plan starts to fall into place...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pakownr97 on December 02, 2005, 10:38:11 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on December 01, 2005, 03:08:29 PM
What time did the gates open for the Ferrum game? There should be 1000 - 1500 fans coming from BC. They like to take their seats early, listen to the band and watch the guys rev-up for action. As for me, I'm a fence walker! ;D

Everyone drive safe and we will see you Saturday a.m. ;)

Yeah, I'm interested too.  What time will the gates open? 

Anybody from Wesley know?

Thanks.

Looking forward to another great game with BC headed West for the semis.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BigMikeA78 on December 02, 2005, 12:49:47 PM
I have heard the gates will be open at 10:30...

No clue on the seating arrangements though...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 02, 2005, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: BigMikeA78 on December 02, 2005, 12:49:47 PM
I have heard the gates will be open at 10:30...

No clue on the seating arrangements though...

During a lull at work today I discovered there is a marvelous a map of the Wesley Athletic Complex at:
http://www.wesley.edu/wesleyathletics.jpg

All that follows is in accordance with that map/jpg...

The baseball field (right field side) is alongside the football field, taking up the west side of a block bordered by North Queen, Clara, N. West, and William Streets  The Football field takes up the right/east side of the block.  You enter from a central location on Clara Street (the south side of the block) to access the two fields, then move to your right to the football field.  There is also an entrance at the corner of Clara and N. Queen Street. 

There is a large bleachers set aside for Bridgewater on the west side of the field, and a much smaller set on the other side of the field for Wesley.  This must be in preparation for the traveling BC Eagle Road show and carnival

;)  It's a joke!  We kid because we love...

Seriously, the football bleacher layout looks to be very similar to that at Jopson Field, except at Wesley the large home bleachers face east and the visitors bleachers face west.

Unfortunate, there is no indication on the map where Stone Station will be located...

It looks like a marvelous facility!  Practice field and softball, lacrosse, and field hockey fields are across the street, as well as the Field House.

See you folks tomorrow, although my travel crew from Northern Virginia is dwindling due to colds, flu, etc.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pakownr97 on December 02, 2005, 04:37:14 PM
Thanks for the info Bwana.  Is Tusky coming?  I still want to see Geisert get mooned.

See ya at the Station tomorrow.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 02, 2005, 06:03:16 PM
Hey, if you agree to post bail money then we can try to get Tusky to the game, but I don't know if there are any outstanding warrants for him in Delaware...but on the good side the statues of limitation for him have run in Va!

See you folks tomorrow!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 02, 2005, 06:44:27 PM
I leave for my former hometown of Bridgewater at 2:45 AM, there is lots of snow here near Snowshoe and I have to take my Subaru with studded tires to make it across the mountains. ETA in Bridgewater is 4:45 AM to catch the bus. (I live in West Virginia near Highland County but in Pocahontas County.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2005, 07:48:32 PM
bwana

  at the wesley/ferrum game there was a tent at one end of the field which i believe was for the ferrum fans. BUT i don't know if wesley put that up or ferrum called ahead and had it arranged .

  to the rest of you from va. have a safe trip. i understand some of you are trekking out early because of snow
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2005, 08:35:16 AM
//GO WESLEY!!!!!!!!  off to the game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MonroviaCat on December 03, 2005, 01:02:48 PM
Anybody want to fill me in on Wesley's one lost?  THey look like they've dominated all season except for Brockport STate---I looked at the stats and did not look like there were a lot of turnovers.....So, what gives?  Feel free to personal message me if this is not worth posting on the board... :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 03, 2005, 02:00:46 PM
Seems like a perfect storm of factors. Between a 10-hour or so drive for Wesley to get to western NY and the rain and muddy field, Wesley couldn't get its offense going early and apparently mailed it in at some point.

I know they made some adjustments on D after that game as well, came out with a 5-2 front the next week against Salisbury. That might be part of it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on December 03, 2005, 02:46:27 PM
It seems that their lone loss lit a fire in the team.  Every team they have played since has received a butt whooping.  Including all three playoff games so far.  I guess we'll really find out how special this Wesley team is next week on the road.  All I can say right now is WOW!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 03, 2005, 02:56:23 PM
WOW....that is an understatement.
Cant wait to hear some of the stats from this one
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 03, 2005, 02:57:51 PM
Wesley is playing great football right now.  They are playing as a team and deserve everything they get, which today is the South Region Championship.

Go Wesley, make the south proud.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 03, 2005, 03:04:46 PM
amazing!!
absolutely amazing.

Congrats Wesley!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 03, 2005, 03:30:05 PM
Here are some quick stats.

Warrick, 18 of 26 for 287, 4 TD's, 1 rushing TD.
Lee, 7 catches for 129, 1 TD.
Beavers, 3 catches for 38, 1 TD, 1 rushing TD for 65 yards (reverse).
Kevin Nelson, 18 rushes for 98, 1 TD, 5 catches 90 yards.

Defense.
6 sacks.
Robinson, 11 tackles, two pass break ups, 2 sacks. Dominant.
Harris, 6 tackles.

Wesley total offense = 547. (Pass 287, rush 260)
BC total offense = 258. (Pass 141, rush 117)

Wesley dominated this game... on offense... on defense... on special teams... completely.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ACMob on December 03, 2005, 03:45:51 PM
WAY TO GO WESLEY!!  GREAT GAME!!  WILL YA PUT THE PROFS BACK ON THE SCHEDULE OR JOIN THE NJAC!!  GUYS GOT TO BE BETTER THAN OUR D2 foes!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 03, 2005, 03:55:52 PM
GOOD JOB BOYS now they will shut there mouths and head back 2 VA but anyways they r out the way we kicked those little peebles 2 the side now we have 2 get ready 4 next week good luck
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bportrocks on December 03, 2005, 03:57:51 PM
After that brockport game i thought wesley was overrated. clearly the field made a bigger difference than i originally thought(though bport had no trouble rolling up the points on the muddy surface ;D)  way to represent the acfc though
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: iLuvWCFB on December 03, 2005, 04:35:01 PM
Never a doubt....Congratulations WESLEY!!    ;D :-*

You guys are absolutely amazing!  Nothing beats a Wesley crowd, we love our boys!!    ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 03, 2005, 05:28:29 PM
I jusy got back to NoVA from Dover, where I watched my Eagles get blasted.

My congratulations to the Wolverines!  You folks played a hellaciously good game!

Good Luck next week against the West!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 03, 2005, 08:00:21 PM
Quote from: Bwana on December 03, 2005, 05:28:29 PM
I jusy got back to NoVA from Dover, where I watched my Eagles get blasted.

My congratulations to the Wolverines!  You folks played a hellaciously good game!

Good Luck next week against the West!

Ditto!

Wesley was unreal ... I'll be surprised if you guys don't win the whole thing.

Good luck next week!  Represent the South well!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 03, 2005, 08:01:29 PM
Congrats to Wesley on a great game! Good luck against UWW next week. I'm sure you will represent the South Region well. ;)

Sis,
You got the last laugh. Props to your brother's play as well. I gave him some love in the endzone and he took it all in stride. Great player. Tell him #87 in red said to take it to UWW!

PAWesleyfan,
Sorry I missed ya. You'all had some lit-up student/fans that I wasn't willing to endure to come over a say hey. Your team and fans that have been there before are great though. Hope you make it to the Stagg!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2005, 08:24:25 PM
Yes I was sitting next too a few and they weren't even students from wesley. they bussed down to see Barnes the Full Back. I did loo for you at half after moving my car!!!! OUr kids are really a good team and was nice to see all the ex playersaround the coaches after the game too!!! on to Wisconsin
Quote from: Llamaguy on December 03, 2005, 08:01:29 PM
Congrats to Wesley on a great game! Good luck against UWW next week. I'm sure you will represent the South Region well. ;)

Sis,
You got the last laugh. Props to your brother's play as well. I gave him some love in the endzone and he took it all in stride. Great player. Tell him #87 in red said to take it to UWW!

PAWesleyfan,
Sorry I missed ya. You'all had some lit-up student/fans that I wasn't willing to endure to come over a say hey. Your team and fans that have been there before are great though. Hope you make it to the Stagg!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2005, 08:36:47 PM
  I may have to play the archive of this game tomorrow. I am sure my bud J. Bowen did a stellar job...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: kubiack78 on December 03, 2005, 09:29:48 PM
Congrats wesley... you should feel right at home in good old Whitewater

temp for next Sat is forcasted to be in the mid 20's but no snow


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on December 03, 2005, 09:33:25 PM
PA_wesleyfan and the Wolverine Nation:

Congratulations to Wesley on their win today, and representing the ACFC.  Good luck on next week in Wisconsin.  Enjoy the win today, and start focusing on UWW Monday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 03, 2005, 09:34:44 PM
Kub78---
Congrats to the Warhawks. Listened to the last couple of minutes. Exciting game!
Interesting fact of the week. Former Wesley LB Trevor Perkins ('93-'96) is the grandson of Perkins Stadium namesake Don.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2005, 09:39:55 PM
Conrad???
I take back what I said about listening tomorrow!!!! At least now I have your e-mail addy!!!Wooohoooo!! I could not have said it better.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 03, 2005, 09:47:09 PM
Yeah, I should probably change my handle if I can (Pat?), but it's the middle name my mother gave me, so maybe I'll stick with it. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on December 03, 2005, 10:01:36 PM
Congratulations to Wesley the 2005 South Region Champs.  You absoulutely crushed BC the entire game.  The short quick pass is deadly for them and that strech play tore Bridgewater up today.  You were clearly the better football team.  Go represent the South well!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wrighthall220 on December 03, 2005, 10:03:02 PM
Congrats to Wesley!  Have fun next week.. get healthy and make the south proud! :)    ;D  To the Wesley fans with class (and to be fair there's only one of you on here without it...) it's been fun talking to you all I hope to do it again NEXT year!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 03, 2005, 11:19:42 PM
Congrats to Wesley on a great performance and good luck next week at Wis. Whitewater. Very impressive win for the Wolverines today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Olinemom on December 03, 2005, 11:38:28 PM
Just got back from another visit to the frozen North.  You'all may be in the South region but it was awfully cold!    What a fine team Wesley has.  I don't see any weaknesses in your game.  You controlled the line of scrimmage, making us do really dumb things.  You got in our heads, both players and coaches alike.  This is the first team I can remember that was player for player faster than we were.  Even without making mistakes, I don't think it would have been possible for us to win today.  You were ready and able to run your game plan and what an impressive game plan it was.  I really like that timed pass over the center.  It was impressive! Your receivers were as good as my friend roocru from UMHB told me you were.  That #83 on that first catch -8 out of 10 would not have been able to pull that one in, but he made it look easy!  I was equally impressed by your running ability.  The players I saw could change directions on a dime and give 9 cents change.  Did I already mention how fast you were?  Not to mention big and fast and talented!!  I second Kid on his assessment of talent.  I believe Wesley has a chance to take it all.  And believe me, Delaware, or at least the stadium I sat in today, simulates Wisconsin weather fairly nicely.  (I am surprised that WW beat Linfield, but that's why they play the games.)  Represent the South well next weekend, but leave those obnoxious endzone people at home.  On a happier note, when I came over to ask for the PA system volume to be turned up loud enough for the BC crowd to at least hear the game we had come to,  the tech people did it immediately and I thank you for that.  Go get'em!  I would like someone to be at the Stagg Bowl I could cheer for and who could beat Mount Union.  Why, I might even bake brownies for a team that would be in position to do that.  My guys would tell you that they are a real treat!!  All the best from one frozen Olinemom and professor of French. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rowanlb92 on December 04, 2005, 08:29:41 AM
Wesley players,
Great run in the playoffs.  You've taken on the theme as this years cinderella team.

Rowan on the other hand is creating thier own story, about the banged up prized fighter that some how keeps manging to pull it off.

I would love to see a Wesley/Rowan final. 

A true fan of sports in general is rooting for this matchup.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 04, 2005, 09:54:06 AM
Any word on if Wesley at Wis. Whitewater will be on CSTV? College Sports TV had a D3 semifinal last year but will it show Mount Union vs Rowan instead?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 04, 2005, 10:42:53 AM
They did not have a D-III semifinal last year. CSTV hasn't broadcast any D-III games since 2003.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BigMikeA78 on December 04, 2005, 11:48:21 AM
Congratulations to Wesley on a job well done yesterday.

I have not seen BC outclassed like that in a while, not since Mt Union put a 66-0 beatdown on us a few years ago.

Good luck in Wisconsin as you will represent the South well and I will be pulling for you to make it to the Stagg Bowl.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 04, 2005, 02:04:53 PM
  Sorry, I stand corrected. I guess after BC losing to W&J in 2004 I did not follow as closely.
  CSTV has not broadcast a D 3 game since 2003 (other than the Williams broadcast in regular season) and I am sorry for getting fans hopes up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 04, 2005, 06:42:22 PM
And those Williams games are just re-airings of a NESN game, I don't even count those.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 05, 2005, 06:06:36 PM
Geesh maybe Some of you Wesley fans could post here for a change? I have been seeing more and more of us in opther boards. Would be nice to get revved up in here!!!

Go Wolverines!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jmu28 on December 05, 2005, 10:17:20 PM
hey pat coleman...

i was wondering if you had a predicition on the upcoming game with wesley vs whitewater

my prediction

wesley 44
UW-W  24
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jmu28 on December 05, 2005, 10:23:28 PM
Anybody else wanna put in on their predicitons? I think wesley is tooo fast for whitewater. i have watched them every home game and man are they exciting. Its hard stopping a team who is solid all the way across the board. Luv watching those kids play. #12, #83, #3, and #24 are EXCITING!!!!!! Defensively, #23,#92, and #9 are definitly ligit ALL AMERICANS. Wesley also has great special teams. WHAT DOES THE CROWD SCREAM WHEN THEY RUN DOWN ON KICKOFF?!?!? :) #12, AND #3 ARE ALSO DANGEROUS RETURN MEN. Love picking the under-dogs. WHITEWATER BETTER WATCH OUT!! I think that this is the year of the WOLVERINES!!!!!

GOOD LUCK WOLVERINES

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 05, 2005, 10:25:50 PM
I think you need to have more than four posts before you can call me out to make a prediction.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jmu28 on December 05, 2005, 10:26:49 PM
im going to change my prediction.

Wesley 44
UW-W  18
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jmu28 on December 05, 2005, 10:29:20 PM
damn man...do you have to be so IGNORANT?!?! I was just asking for your opinion. I didn't know that you needed a specific amount of "posts" before asking PAT COLEMAN for his prediction. I am new with this and i have been reading your predictions of other games for a couple of months now. Sorry to get you all "WIRED UP" man.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 05, 2005, 11:00:37 PM
Quote from: jmu28 on December 05, 2005, 10:29:20 PM
damn man...do you have to be so IGNORANT?!?! I was just asking for your opinion. I didn't know that you needed a specific amount of "posts" before asking PAT COLEMAN for his prediction. I am new with this and i have been reading your predictions of other games for a couple of months now. Sorry to get you all "WIRED UP" man.

Well, given that you have posted two predictions within seven minutes, I imagine Pat is just waiting for your final prediction before offering up his.  ;)

The yelling probably isn't helping either... 

Besides, since you have been reading Pat's stuff for a couple of months you might have noticed that (1) Pat won't be rushed, and (2) He typically does not post a prediction until mid-week or later...which is probably prudent given that there is always the possibility of a Roy Hampton type incident...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 05, 2005, 11:17:17 PM
Actually, no, I don't make predictions on the message board. If I have them to make I'll post them on the blog, like in previous playoff rounds.

And if I'm so ignorant, then what do you care what my predictions are? :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: heywood220 on December 05, 2005, 11:25:17 PM
JMU28
Wesley 44
UW-W  18


WOW!!! do you really believe that,    i have heard some talk of Wesley's speed and since i dont know much about them i will take your word on it, but come on!! Whitewater is pretty quick itself, we have real quick linebackers, and a DLine that had been solid all year.  Plus our Passing and Running game on Offence has been great all year  3000 yard passer, 2000 yard rusher and 2 1000 yard recievers.

Wesley - 24
UW-W  -  42
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2005, 12:03:55 AM
They are saying WoooOOOOO on the kicks
Quote from: jmu28 on December 05, 2005, 10:23:28 PM
Anybody else wanna put in on their predicitons? I think wesley is tooo fast for whitewater. i have watched them every home game and man are they exciting. Its hard stopping a team who is solid all the way across the board. Luv watching those kids play. #12, #83, #3, and #24 are EXCITING!!!!!! Defensively, #23,#92, and #9 are definitly ligit ALL AMERICANS. Wesley also has great special teams. WHAT DOES THE CROWD SCREAM WHEN THEY RUN DOWN ON KICKOFF?!?!? :) #12, AND #3 ARE ALSO DANGEROUS RETURN MEN. Love picking the under-dogs. WHITEWATER BETTER WATCH OUT!! I think that this is the year of the WOLVERINES!!!!!

GOOD LUCK WOLVERINES


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 06, 2005, 04:32:22 AM
Quote from: jmu28 on December 05, 2005, 10:23:28 PM
Anybody else wanna put in on their predicitons? I think wesley is tooo fast for whitewater. i have watched them every home game and man are they exciting. Its hard stopping a team who is solid all the way across the board. Luv watching those kids play. #12, #83, #3, and #24 are EXCITING!!!!!! Defensively, #23,#92, and #9 are definitly ligit ALL AMERICANS. Wesley also has great special teams. WHAT DOES THE CROWD SCREAM WHEN THEY RUN DOWN ON KICKOFF?!?!? :) #12, AND #3 ARE ALSO DANGEROUS RETURN MEN. Love picking the under-dogs. WHITEWATER BETTER WATCH OUT!! I think that this is the year of the WOLVERINES!!!!!

GOOD LUCK WOLVERINES

Your the classic example of an overly-excited FAN.  If you want to be taken seriously, I would advise to tone it down & start providing factual information. BTW, let me see if I understand this correctly, you made your prediction based on, what, watching Wesley play their home games???  WOW, that's impressive.  With all those lethal weapons in the Wesley arsenal, how can they be the 'dog??? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 06, 2005, 12:44:43 PM
Quote from: jmu28 on December 05, 2005, 10:26:49 PM
im going to change my prediction.

Wesley 44
UW-W 18

i cant believe you really think that the Wesley def. can hold WW to only 18 pts.  Also if you go to all the home games i would hope that you would atleast know some of the players names.  Ive only been lookin at Wesley stuff for two days and know more about the team then you do.  And just cause they are fast doesnt mean a whole lot if the QB is on his back or running around all day. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 06, 2005, 12:50:34 PM
and you wanna talk about speed, WW has a WR(stanley) that runs a legit 4.29 and the other WR have 4.5-4.6 speed and Beaver (rb) has 4.5-4.6 speed and is hard to tackle
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 06, 2005, 12:59:29 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 06, 2005, 12:50:34 PM
and you wanna talk about speed, WW has a WR(stanley) that runs a legit 4.29 and the other WR have 4.5-4.6 speed and Beaver (rb) has 4.5-4.6 speed and is hard to tackle

Wow, we didn't know you guys were that fast!!!  Damn, we might as well not even catch the flight out there.  A legit 4.29.  Whatever. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 06, 2005, 01:00:41 PM
Heck, if he is that fast, you better put him on defense so he can catch Beavers, Larry that is.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 06, 2005, 01:11:02 PM
hey if you dont want to believe me ask some of the teams he has played against, and dont be surprised if he locks down beavers cause he played both ways for WW last year.  Was supposed to go transfer to Madison to run track, but not enough credits would transfer.  but believe what you want, just dont think your gonna come to the PERK and run past us
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 06, 2005, 01:14:58 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 06, 2005, 12:50:34 PM
and you wanna talk about speed, WW has a WR(stanley) that runs a legit 4.29 and the other WR have 4.5-4.6 speed and Beaver (rb) has 4.5-4.6 speed and is hard to tackle

lol thats sounds pretty good you act like our secondary havent covered anyone that was fast this year oh by they way we have coners that run 4.4 - 4.5's so it will be fun and i can promise you he doesn't run no 4.29 he wouldn't be at your school but anyways your qb hasnt seen a big fast DL like this so he better be the run that can run tell him to remember these numbers #92 #99 #88 #91 the DL is stacked and can move but we dont miss tackles like everyone else that acts like they dont wanna tackle beavers you better hope it is muddy
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 06, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 06, 2005, 01:11:02 PM
hey if you dont want to believe me ask some of the teams he has played against, and dont be surprised if he locks down beavers cause he played both ways for WW last year.  Was supposed to go transfer to Madison to run track, but not enough credits would transfer.  but believe what you want, just dont think your gonna come to the PERK and run past us

go ahead let him play both ways but remember we have more than one fast reciever and more than one reciever that can catch so unless u have 4 of him that can play both ways watch out  oh and by the way im not talking mess im just backing up my Wesley boys
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 06, 2005, 01:21:45 PM
So then, football at Whitewater was his second choice?  The WIAC is famous for its transfers and who goes where.  It doesn't matter.  Don't go quoting 40 speeds on here unless you're holding the clock, bud.  Beside, we all know that UW-W is a great team and impossible to beat at your home field, with your home crowd, with your home weather...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 06, 2005, 04:43:31 PM
i can quote 40 times if i witness them buddy, and im not talkin smack just stating like you guys are that we have covered fast WR all year, but you might be right about the amount of fast guys you have we might have seen before. 

and on the stanley thing he wanted to do both track adn football and WW was the only place that would let him do both, Madison wanted him to just run track.  was it the right choice thats not for me to say, but his IS a D1 athlete playing D3 football
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 06, 2005, 06:29:01 PM
Why do you Wesley guys seem to be hostile toward the Warhawk fans?  Feeling a little "defensive" are we???  Getting no respect???  All we read here is how fast you are at wr and big & mean on the d-line. C'mon...let's start talking some serious !@#$.  The game will be decided by who executes their offense better, turnovers and has better special teams play. But, all I hear from you is Jr. High school banter. Let's stop this we're going to win because..."our guys are faster than your guys..." routine.  That means squat.  Get with the program & tell us some usefu information about your team.  Wesley seems to be the best kept secret in D3 football. You guys are not helping to enlighten us!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 06, 2005, 06:31:13 PM
you aint sayin nothing good for him what are we suppose to be scared my brother coulda went to La Salle and ran track but he loves football so he chose football but anyways good luck to all this weekend
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: hawkshawkshawks on December 06, 2005, 06:47:42 PM
The Wesley O will get the crap knocked out of it and there is no way the D will even come close to holding the WW O just too much talent all the way around.  Keep trying to kid yourself that your d line is something special cuz its not, just big guys who dominate inferior competiton.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 06, 2005, 07:45:18 PM
lol i like that just keep thinking that your that nice and get a DE ass whooping coming to ya but i like your confidence in you team
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on December 06, 2005, 08:06:32 PM
Quote from: hawkshawkshawks on December 06, 2005, 06:47:42 PM
The Wesley O will get the crap knocked out of it and there is no way the D will even come close to holding the WW O just too much talent all the way around.  Keep trying to kid yourself that your d line is something special cuz its not, just big guys who dominate inferior competiton.

Care to back your statements up with anything but your opinion?  As for Wesley playing inferior compitition, they beat the last two South region champs in their last two weeks.  I know you will say that is nothing compared to beating the last two national champs, but it is not like they played the little sisters of the poor.  Wesley's defense swarmed to the ball very well and stuffed two good running teams.  A week will tell whether they will stuff UW-Whitewater the same way or not.  I will just remind you that you still have two more games to win before anyone will call UW-Whitewater national champs.  Don't expect Wesley or anyone else for that matter to bend over and die for you.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2005, 08:10:03 PM
  Wesley is not a well kept secret. We all know why they are so successful!!!! They are a TEAM. They play off what the other teams give them. Last week Bridgewater was expecting pass, pass, pass... Well Wesley started out running the ball. HMB doubled Lee and showed a 9 man front and still didn't get to Warrick. Oh Yea. They forgot to double  Beavers.  Ferrum, well so much for another No. 1 in the nation offense.  So it's no secret. And if I am not mistaken Pat Cummings tried to give your board the low down on Wesley and he was chastized for it. Surf a little and check out what the Bridgewater fans have been saying all week. Wesley is good and maybe they won't win in your HOUSE!!!, But your kids will know they were in a game!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2005, 08:13:53 PM
Conrad

  Tell em about Trevor Perkins . I don't remember how he is related to the Perkins that WW field is named for!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 07, 2005, 01:26:35 AM
im gonna be honest if Robinson comes in the the Perk and takes over like he has the last couple of weeks the Hawks will be in for a dog fight, but i have confidence(as do you guys) that our coaching staff will try to keep his success to a minimum.  Like i stated earlier in the week the team that wins up front will win this game no matter how fast we think our players are
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 07, 2005, 01:43:08 AM
yea ill agree with you on that but we also have some other studs on that line  that can give some fits but it should be a good game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: miz on December 07, 2005, 08:39:08 AM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 06, 2005, 12:50:34 PM
WW has a WR(stanley) that runs a legit 4.29

Does he bench 600 lbs. too?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: kubiack78 on December 07, 2005, 08:59:53 AM
Quote from: WCswann28sis on December 06, 2005, 01:14:58 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 06, 2005, 12:50:34 PM
and you wanna talk about speed, WW has a WR(stanley) that runs a legit 4.29 and the other WR have 4.5-4.6 speed and Beaver (rb) has 4.5-4.6 speed and is hard to tackle

lol thats sounds pretty good you act like our secondary havent covered anyone that was fast this year oh by they way we have coners that run 4.4 - 4.5's so it will be fun and i can promise you he doesn't run no 4.29 he wouldn't be at your school but anyways your qb hasnt seen a big fast DL like this so he better be the run that can run tell him to remember these numbers #92 #99 #88 #91 the DL is stacked and can move but we dont miss tackles like everyone else that acts like they dont wanna tackle beavers you better hope it is muddy

Boy the ACFC must be full of studs...  Only three players off that awesome D were 1st team All conf.   I was expecting at least 9 1st teamers the way you talked them up
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 07, 2005, 09:08:31 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2005, 08:10:03 PM
 Wesley is not a well kept secret. We all know why they are so successful!!!! They are a TEAM. They play off what the other teams give them. Last week Bridgewater was expecting pass, pass, pass... Well Wesley started out running the ball. HMB doubled Lee and showed a 9 man front and still didn't get to Warrick. Oh Yea. They forgot to double  Beavers.  Ferrum, well so much for another No. 1 in the nation offense.  So it's no secret. And if I am not mistaken Pat Cummings tried to give your board the low down on Wesley and he was chastized for it. Surf a little and check out what the Bridgewater fans have been saying all week. Wesley is good and maybe they won't win in your HOUSE!!!, But your kids will know they were in a game!!

I think what it comes down to is that the many WW faithful listening & watching last week can't imagine ANY team having a passing offense & QB/receivers anywhere near as talented as the guys they faced at Linfield. No disrespect to Wesley, but after being so successful on the road, coming home to face a realitively unknown quantity (esp. in the midwest) in your team, there is a high level of confidence going into this weekend.  From the comments you made, it sounds like Wesley's opponents have failed to correctly make adequate adjustments defensively - and it cost them big time.  I'm sure WW's coaching staff has taken note of this fact & as usual, will be very proactive in their schemes on both sides of the ball. It's going to be a war, no doubt - hopefully both teams bring their "A" game.  You guys have been on fire the last 5 weeks, however, WW has been blazing all year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: reality check on December 07, 2005, 10:19:32 AM
Just wishing Wesley the best as I did not know until today that Kevin Nelson was the Wolverines running back for the last two years.  I called all of Nelson's games at the University of New Haven as a sophomore.  They discontinued the program at the end of the season and the rest is history.  I saw his picture on the front page and said, "that's gotta be the Kevin Nelson I knew" because he didn't look to be too tall.  I saw on the Wesley roster he's listed at 5'3" which is about right but I laughed because when he was at UNH he was allegedly 5'6". 

Best of luck to Kevin and the rest of the Wesley Wolverines!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 07, 2005, 10:57:26 AM
Seeing him in person, 5-3 seems pretty accurate. I don't think they are sugarcoating it. UNH obviously was. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 07, 2005, 12:44:35 PM
The NFL scout that measured him last spring, said Nelson was the shortest he had ever measured.
His size can be an advantage, when he gets behind the o-line, he is hard to find and he doesn't need that big a hole. Suprising power for a little guy too, once he gets those shoulders square.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Tezbaseball on December 07, 2005, 05:00:09 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 06, 2005, 12:50:34 PM
and you wanna talk about speed, WW has a WR(stanley) that runs a legit 4.29 and the other WR have 4.5-4.6 speed and Beaver (rb) has 4.5-4.6 speed and is hard to tackle

Thats bunk. stanley does not have 4.29 speed. and Beaver is most likely a 4.7-4.8.

Stanley didn't out run Linfields dbs at all. And Beaver if it wasn't for poor tackleing by Linfield wouldn't have done as well as he did. Linfields WR's were faster then WW
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 07, 2005, 06:32:03 PM
yea i knew warhawksexpress was talking out of his anus when he said that but hopefully their DBs got faster from last week or it gonna be trouble trouble trouble its been freezing around this part of the region so the boys should be ready for saturday good luck boys love ya
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 07, 2005, 06:37:38 PM
Quote from: Tez18 on December 07, 2005, 05:00:09 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 06, 2005, 12:50:34 PM
and you wanna talk about speed, WW has a WR(stanley) that runs a legit 4.29 and the other WR have 4.5-4.6 speed and Beaver (rb) has 4.5-4.6 speed and is hard to tackle

Thats bunk. stanley does not have 4.29 speed. and Beaver is most likely a 4.7-4.8.

Stanley didn't out run Linfields dbs at all. And Beaver if it wasn't for poor tackleing by Linfield wouldn't have done as well as he did. Linfields WR's were faster then WW

Tez18 - still chewing on the sour grapes?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 07, 2005, 07:01:05 PM
you guys can think what you want but i was there when he ran it.  But track speed is different from football speed
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 07, 2005, 07:39:23 PM
maybe someone sneezed on the stop watch and covered up the other half of the 8
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 07, 2005, 07:41:53 PM
Conrad if Kevin is 5'3" then how tall is Tykee??  Imagine them both in the backfeild together!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Tezbaseball on December 07, 2005, 07:47:31 PM
Quote from: SeoulGuy on December 07, 2005, 06:37:38 PM
Quote from: Tez18 on December 07, 2005, 05:00:09 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 06, 2005, 12:50:34 PM
and you wanna talk about speed, WW has a WR(stanley) that runs a legit 4.29 and the other WR have 4.5-4.6 speed and Beaver (rb) has 4.5-4.6 speed and is hard to tackle

Thats bunk. stanley does not have 4.29 speed. and Beaver is most likely a 4.7-4.8.

Stanley didn't out run Linfields dbs at all. And Beaver if it wasn't for poor tackleing by Linfield wouldn't have done as well as he did. Linfields WR's were faster then WW

Tez18 - still chewing on the sour grapes?

No sour grapes here. UWW played a heck of a game. One of the best if not the best game I've seen.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Tezbaseball on December 07, 2005, 07:48:48 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 07, 2005, 07:01:05 PM
you guys can think what you want but i was there when he ran it.  But track speed is different from football speed
Track speed is different. Hell I ran a 4.14 once...LOL
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 07, 2005, 09:25:12 PM
Quote from: Conrad on December 07, 2005, 12:44:35 PM
The NFL scout that measured him last spring, said Nelson was the shortest he had ever measured.
His size can be an advantage, when he gets behind the o-line, he is hard to find and he doesn't need that big a hole. Suprising power for a little guy too, once he gets those shoulders square.

Can someone please tell me why there was an NFL scout there to measure this guy in the first place
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: frank uible on December 07, 2005, 09:30:51 PM
warhawk: Excellent question.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 07, 2005, 10:29:12 PM
If I recall correctly, this happened last season. Perhaps he was there to see Rocky Meyers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 08, 2005, 07:48:03 AM
warhawkexpress-

NFL scouts travel the country every spring and take 40's and watch film on most small school's juniors. I'll bet that they were at Whitewater and the rest of the WIAC schools too since the conference always produces a NFL caliber player or two every year.
You know how crazy draft analysis gets, they just don't want to miss any sleepers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on December 08, 2005, 09:17:55 AM
PA_wesleyfan, and the other Wolverines:

Good luck this weekend in Wisconsin, and continue that "Shock the World" mentality you guys have.  Keep up the winning for your program and the ACFC.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 08, 2005, 10:14:21 AM
What's the word on how we are going to get the game in DE???  Anyone know.  I tried the Stretch Internet when Wesley was in TX, but I got the door slammed shut on that one.  Had to listen to the UMHB station.  Is WDEL going to the game??  Help!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Mr_Slappy on December 08, 2005, 11:00:46 AM
I guess Wesley should just get their plans made for the Stagg Bowl.
Wesley just phone this one in.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 08, 2005, 11:13:49 AM
You're right Mr.  Slappy.  In fact Wesley didn't even practice this week.   Hey, it looks like you're only typing with one hand!!?? Mr. Slappy.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Photos for bc on December 08, 2005, 11:24:31 AM
 :)
  To all Wesely fans and parents click here //www.Bridgewaterphotos.com

for game pictures from Bridgewater/wesley game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Photos for bc on December 08, 2005, 11:25:59 AM
Quote from: Photos for bc on December 08, 2005, 11:24:31 AM
:)
  To all Wesely fans and parents click here //
brdiegwaterphotos.com
for game pictures from Bridgewater/wesley game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Photos for bc on December 08, 2005, 11:34:05 AM
To all Wesely fans and parents click here // ftp.www.Bridgewaterphotos.com

for game pictures from Bridgewater/wesley game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 08, 2005, 11:46:01 AM
Dragon-
I was in a hurry with my last post so i thought i would just be "junior high" and have some fun with it.

WW O is a conventional off set I formation with alot of 3 wr sets.  They dont do anything special(trick plays etc.) unless other team is over playing.  Beaver #32 is small but explosive, has made good tackling teams look bad all year.  Leszcz
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 08, 2005, 11:52:49 AM
Dragon-
I was in a hurry with my last post so i thought i would just be "junior high" and have some fun with it.

WW O is a conventional off set I formation with alot of 3 wr sets.  They dont do anything special(trick plays etc.) unless other team is over playing.  Beaver #32 is small but explosive, has made good tackling teams look bad all year.  Leszczynski #7 isnt the fastest but runs well after the catch and always seems to be open. Stanley #2 is a burner, i would put him against anyone in the nation in a race. catchs the deep ball well and can run after the catch.  Oline is solid only given up like 10 sacks in 13 games this year and has opened up holes to the tune of like 2900 yds on the ground.  
The D doesnt have the standouts that wesley does but everyone does their job and are in the right spots.  Kleppe #95 is the best DL and is good at stopping the run and getting a pass rush.  LB are solid across the board all are good size and can run from sideline to sideline.  Secondary is good but not the best, both safties Brown 42 and Murray 24 are always around the ball when it is thrown and will knock you out if they have the chance.  Corners are experienced and do what they have to do to get the job done

So their you go probably nothin you already dont know but it something
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 08, 2005, 11:53:32 AM
We'll be broadcasting the game, same as last week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Tezbaseball on December 08, 2005, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 08, 2005, 11:52:49 AM
Dragon-
I was in a hurry with my last post so i thought i would just be "junior high" and have some fun with it.

WW O is a conventional off set I formation with alot of 3 wr sets.  They dont do anything special(trick plays etc.) unless other team is over playing.  Beaver #32 is small but explosive, has made good tackling teams look bad all year.  Leszczynski #7 isnt the fastest but runs well after the catch and always seems to be open. Stanley #2 is a burner, i would put him against anyone in the nation in a race. catchs the deep ball well and can run after the catch.  Oline is solid only given up like 10 sacks in 13 games this year and has opened up holes to the tune of like 2900 yds on the ground.  
The D doesnt have the standouts that wesley does but everyone does their job and are in the right spots.  Kleppe #95 is the best DL and is good at stopping the run and getting a pass rush.  LB are solid across the board all are good size and can run from sideline to sideline.  Secondary is good but not the best, both safties Brown 42 and Murray 24 are always around the ball when it is thrown and will knock you out if they have the chance.  Corners are experienced and do what they have to do to get the job done

So their you go probably nothin you already dont know but it something

Stanley isn't that fast. He did have a nice diving catch vs. Linfield though. And Beaver, he's tough. He will run through you if your not in good postion to make the tackle.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 08, 2005, 12:01:13 PM
I've seen UWW play twice and I would have to dispute any assertion that Stanley is not that fast.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 08, 2005, 12:04:37 PM
people might not think he is that fast cause he is so fluent in the way he runs perfect form and all,  but if you have watched any games you see the seperation he gets, also if you have ever been to the D3 national championships for track you might have seen how fast he really is the last 3 years
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: reality check on December 08, 2005, 12:13:17 PM
warhawkexpress

I browsed the UWW athletics site to see about this Stanley kids track speed and it says Stanley is a very good jumper, but there doesn't seem to be any real information on his sprint times.  I am not trying to be funny.  Did he even run in the NCAA's?  All I see is his record in loing and triple jump and some high school sprint stats.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Tezbaseball on December 08, 2005, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 08, 2005, 12:04:37 PM
people might not think he is that fast cause he is so fluent in the way he runs perfect form and all,  but if you have watched any games you see the seperation he gets, also if you have ever been to the D3 national championships for track you might have seen how fast he really is the last 3 years

That's track speed though. He didn't get seperation against Linfield. He's not one of the elite in track. Not on any of the results.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Tezbaseball on December 08, 2005, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: reality check on December 08, 2005, 12:13:17 PM
warhawkexpress

I browsed the UWW athletics site to see about this Stanley kids track speed and it says Stanley is a very good jumper, but there doesn't seem to be any real information on his sprint times.  I am not trying to be funny.  Did he even run in the NCAA's?  All I see is his record in loing and triple jump and some high school sprint stats.

There is nothing on the NCAA track and field site either
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 08, 2005, 12:18:33 PM
Quote from: Tez18 on December 08, 2005, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 08, 2005, 12:04:37 PM
people might not think he is that fast cause he is so fluent in the way he runs perfect form and all,  but if you have watched any games you see the seperation he gets, also if you have ever been to the D3 national championships for track you might have seen how fast he really is the last 3 years

That's track speed though. He didn't get seperation against Linfield. He's not one of the elite in track. Not on any of the results.

115 yards on 2 catches, yah no seperation, and didnt he run away from your DB on the 60 yd TD, and he had to slow down to catch it and then still ran away.  But hes not that fast.

That why i said if you saw him at the track meets cause he is a jumper but you have to sprint down the runway
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Tezbaseball on December 08, 2005, 12:21:13 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 08, 2005, 12:18:33 PM
Quote from: Tez18 on December 08, 2005, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 08, 2005, 12:04:37 PM
people might not think he is that fast cause he is so fluent in the way he runs perfect form and all,  but if you have watched any games you see the seperation he gets, also if you have ever been to the D3 national championships for track you might have seen how fast he really is the last 3 years

That's track speed though. He didn't get seperation against Linfield. He's not one of the elite in track. Not on any of the results.

115 yards on 2 catches, yah no seperation, and didnt he run away from your DB on the 60 yd TD, and he had to slow down to catch it and then still ran away.  But hes not that fast.

That why i said if you saw him at the track meets cause he is a jumper but you have to sprint down the runway

LOL, it was blown coverage.......you get a 10 or 15 yrd start on a db and anyone can run away
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 08, 2005, 12:29:22 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 08, 2005, 12:04:37 PM
people might not think he is that fast cause he is so fluent in the way he runs...

What, he talks while he runs?  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 08, 2005, 12:38:12 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 08, 2005, 11:52:49 AM
Dragon-
I was in a hurry with my last post so i thought i would just be "junior high" and have some fun with it.

WW O is a conventional off set I formation with alot of 3 wr sets.  They dont do anything special(trick plays etc.) unless other team is over playing.  Beaver #32 is small but explosive, has made good tackling teams look bad all year.  Leszczynski #7 isnt the fastest but runs well after the catch and always seems to be open. Stanley #2 is a burner, i would put him against anyone in the nation in a race. catchs the deep ball well and can run after the catch.  Oline is solid only given up like 10 sacks in 13 games this year and has opened up holes to the tune of like 2900 yds on the ground.  
The D doesnt have the standouts that wesley does but everyone does their job and are in the right spots.  Kleppe #95 is the best DL and is good at stopping the run and getting a pass rush.  LB are solid across the board all are good size and can run from sideline to sideline.  Secondary is good but not the best, both safties Brown 42 and Murray 24 are always around the ball when it is thrown and will knock you out if they have the chance.  Corners are experienced and do what they have to do to get the job done

So their you go probably nothin you already dont know but it something

Never thouht I would say this, but thank you Warhawkexpress!  We both know we can beat our chests only so much before the real game has to be played.  Wesley hasn't faced a back like Beaver.  Yes, they have faced some good ones, but this is different.  Beaver is a rock, you can tell by his pic.  Your qb is the best that we have faced.  Your play action passing is something Wesley hasn't seen a bunch of lately.  Good faking and misdirection will get the LB's moving the wrong way.  With your line giving up only 10 sack shows that they play as a solid group.  This game will come down to blocking and tackling (from my old coaching days).  Besides that, look to see who gets more yards on first down.  My feeling is the team that has more second or third and long will be punting and giving up the ball more (forced turnovers too).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: three3s on December 08, 2005, 01:35:08 PM
In regards to Derek S. speed if you got a chance or heard about the St. Johns game. He had two or three different times where he completely separated himself from the DB when the ball was in the air.  If Wesley wants to go into this game thinking that speed doesn't kill then go right ahead.  I know that he is going to embarrass a few people.  Not only can he run fast but his vert is 38+ inches. Can we all say WOW together?  I know D1 numbers, how fortunate we our. 

p.s for all that do not believe I have been with him as we trained with Charles Woodson, Kevin Barlow, and Marcus Trufant and witnessed him run a sub 4.3. His cousin holds an Olympic Word Record in the triple Jump "Kenny Harrison" it's in his blood to be a great athlete.

We can brag about how good our offense is but our D is not to shaky themselves.  You will be forced to put the ball in the air, cause the D has not allowed a 100 yd rusher all yr. Your QB will have the most rushing yds. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 08, 2005, 03:14:05 PM
we dont really care who has trained with he can run what he wants but dont think he will out run our defense sorry it wont happen but have fun thinking that
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 08, 2005, 03:59:20 PM
Quote from: three3s on December 08, 2005, 01:35:08 PM
In regards to Derek S. speed if you got a chance or heard about the St. Johns game. He had two or three different times where he completely separated himself from the DB when the ball was in the air. 

Yes. I saw that game and that is what I am basing my statements on as well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 08, 2005, 07:03:30 PM
dedragon
I actually listened to both the Wesley and HMB webcastsat the same time.. Ya I do have a life just love football and different opinions on same action. You can go through the Wesley football page to get to the webcast from J. Bowen

http://secure.stretchinternet.com/demo/games.php?user=wesley&o=cal_stamp&sd=1124089200&ed=1152946800

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 08, 2005, 11:53:32 AM
We'll be broadcasting the game, same as last week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 09, 2005, 12:24:02 AM
PA_wesleyfan...
speed and athleticism are admirable.
DO NOT give up more turnovers or all that
talent is negated.
(WW put Stanley on defense to cover Casey Allen
which LINFIELD did not see on film)

No injuries!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 09, 2005, 11:36:01 AM
Hey DE, wake up!! We have a game tomorrow.  Oh, yeah.  It snowed an inch last night.  State of Emergency.  We'll talk to you all tomorrow when it melts.  Not enough snow plows to get the roads clear. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 09, 2005, 03:52:09 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzz....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 09, 2005, 04:29:36 PM
Good luck to Wesley tomorrow.  It would be good to have another South rep in the Stagg this season. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wrighthall220 on December 09, 2005, 06:44:51 PM
Good luck Wesley!  Let the South rise again in the Stagg Bowl!  :D ;D 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2005, 07:30:37 PM
dedragon
I was out all day in our cold snowy weather in PA.  shopping for food in the woods!!!! If you know what I mean. 
I was unhappy to see that stretch didn't archive the playoff games. Would have liked to listen to them after getting home from the games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 09, 2005, 08:42:50 PM
Here's wishing Wesley good luck in Wisconsin. Hope you guys can continue playing like you have been and give the 'hawks a great game.  With a break or two, anything is possible.  Hope you show the west you can play quality football too!! Good luck!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: frank uible on December 09, 2005, 10:25:11 PM
If I am an NFL scout and if I run into a DIII player who, my eyes tell me, is about 5'3" in height, then I'm not going to waste my time in measuring him to see where his height falls between 5'2" and 5'4". This player has 2 strikes, and he's out. Strike one - he's a DIII player. Strike two - he's way too short to the point that he's almost a midget. Name the last DIII player who was approximately 5'3" in height or shorter and who has played at least one snap in the NFL.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 09, 2005, 10:39:27 PM
See your point Frank. But as an unbiased/ non-Wesley fan, Midget takes it alittle to far. ;) I saw him last week and he didn't have stubby fingers or wobble! In fact he moved like Barry Sanders only not standing as high off the turf. ;D Its obvious he is not NFL material but if he is in the line-up to be measured are you gonna just walk past him to the next guy? ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: voice on December 09, 2005, 11:47:00 PM
To the "fans" that are questioning Derek Stanley's track and field credentials. You might as well quit looking for his sprint times, he competes in the long jump and triple jump and has qualified for both D3 indoor and outdoor championships. He is a two-time All-American in both events.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 10, 2005, 01:49:48 AM
I'll be cheering for you all tomorrow, Wesley!

Good luck!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Olinemom on December 10, 2005, 02:59:21 AM
Quote from: frank uible on December 09, 2005, 10:25:11 PM
If I am an NFL scout and if I run into a DIII player who, my eyes tell me, is about 5'3" in height, then I'm not going to waste my time in measuring him to see where his height falls between 5'2" and 5'4". This player has 2 strikes, and he's out. Strike one - he's a DIII player. Strike two - he's way too short to the point that he's almost a midget. Name the last DIII player who was approximately 5'3" in height or shorter and who has played at least one snap in the NFL.

somebody help me here.  He was very short and he played for Hampden-Sydney out of Harrisonburg.  Howard something.  It<s on the tip of of my brain.  But it won't come
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2005, 05:26:57 AM
 Do It Up Wesley... WooooOOOOOOO!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 09:30:32 AM
Prediction:



U W - W H I T E W A T E R 42  W E S L E Y 21 (with 2 tuchdowns late in 4th quarter)

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2005, 10:01:32 AM
Game delayed by one hour to allow for field preparations.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 10, 2005, 10:21:12 AM
Howard Stevens is 5'5" and 167 pounds. He played at Randolph Macon and later briefly at Louisville. He I think was mainly a Kickoff Returner for the New Orleans Saints and Baltimore Colts for 5 years from 1973-1977.
  Your point is well taken though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on December 10, 2005, 10:56:50 AM
I just wanna say to the Wesley football team....kick some Wisconsin cheese!  :P
It's great to see an ACFC team this far in the playoffs. Yes, it is very hard for a Salisbury fan to root for another conference team, but it shows loyalty to the region and conference overall!  I'd love to see WC in the Stagg Bowl!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Olinemom on December 10, 2005, 10:57:45 AM
Quote from: Jeremybozz on December 10, 2005, 10:21:12 AM
Howard Stevens is 5'5" and 167 pounds. He played at Randolph Macon and later briefly at Louisville. He I think was mainly a Kickoff Returner for the New Orleans Saints and Baltimore Colts for 5 years from 1973-1977.
  Your point is well taken though.

Thank you!  :) That last name just wouldn't come to me in the early morning, but I knew that he had played in the NFL and that he was barely taller than me.  Can you make it to the Stagg Bowl next Saturday?  Sure hope so! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on December 10, 2005, 12:52:24 PM
Good Luck today to Wesley and all their fans.  Go shock the world and really put your program on the national map. The defense of Wesley will be the difference today.  If they stop or even slow down Whitewater enough, the Wesley O will win the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on December 10, 2005, 01:04:45 PM
Pulling for Wesley here in Alabama. Huntingdon has posted their 2006 schedule and it has Wesley coming to Montgomery at the end of September. Would be really cool to have a defending champion coming to town. Go get'em Wesley!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 10, 2005, 01:19:32 PM
I still say CSTV would get higher ratings with a D3 semifinal than with LSU/Auburn hoops from 1992 even though Shaq was at LSU at the time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 10, 2005, 01:39:00 PM
Mount Union is putting a dominating defensive performance on Rowan.  Profs had 34 yards offense at the half.  MUC is not doing all that well on offense themselves but lead 14-0 at the half. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 10, 2005, 01:43:27 PM
Good luck Wesley. This is the big game and it will be close.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Olinemom on December 10, 2005, 02:23:50 PM
WW 2 Wesley 0  I think they must have fumbled the kickoff due to the snowy conditions.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 02:30:58 PM
WW now leads 16-0 after Kyle Johnson's interception return for td, 10 yards.
This one is getting ugly in a hurry for Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 02:31:54 PM
Wesley fumbled again, but they recovered. Wesley appears to be having trouble holding onto the ball.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 02:32:29 PM
Warrick pass nearly intercepted again, but dropped by the WW DB
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 10, 2005, 02:32:44 PM
Quote from: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 02:30:58 PM
WW now leads 16-0 after Kyle Johnson's interception return for td, 10 yards.
This one is getting ugly in a hurry for Wesley.

Let's just hope they don't quit.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 02:42:46 PM
Another TD, 16 yards, but penalty on play on WW brings it back. Fourth down from 28!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 02:52:55 PM
23-0 WW
18 yard pass for touchdown, Jacobs to Stanley on first play of 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inferno4488 on December 10, 2005, 03:04:42 PM
The Wesley broadcaster said that he was told before the game Wesley was told by UW-Whitewater to wear screw ins for their cleats, and that Whitewater has on turf shows, now i dont know if this is true or not but if it is that is one of the lowest things i've ever heard in my life,and if it is true that i have lost respect for the whitewater program,now the jury is still out on it so we will wait and see...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2005, 03:06:54 PM
Thanks for the hearsay.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 03:08:34 PM
Since when does Wesley care what Whitewater says? - they have their own professionals in their equipement staff, right? They need to wear what the conditions call for!! If they are complaining about that, they better go home now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: Jeremybozz on December 10, 2005, 01:43:27 PM
Good luck Wesley. This is the big game and it will be close.

huh???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 10, 2005, 03:33:11 PM
Quote from: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: Jeremybozz on December 10, 2005, 01:43:27 PM
Good luck Wesley. This is the big game and it will be close.

huh???

If you're going to call someone out for a prediction, do it before the game starts.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MonroviaCat on December 10, 2005, 03:37:06 PM
Yeah...Seoul Guy....Don't you know it's not fair to point out when somebody is completely wrong......in a big way.....  A more appropriate reponse would have been:  The game is not over....it could still be close..... :)  That would have been a nice, friendly, supportive response.  :) :) :) :) 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 04:01:53 PM
Wait a minute, how can you ignore such a statement. The game had started, probably already 16-0, and Jeremybozz predicts a close game. It was obvious to anyone listening that the game was already over.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MonroviaCat on December 10, 2005, 04:16:40 PM
I was being sarcastic...  I think anybody who makes a prediction whether it is score or otherwise has to expect that they will be called on it when they are wrong.  I certainly accepted it when I was called last week and I certainly nailed the guy who said that UWW would hold Linfield under 20 points!  Anyway Seoulguy....i'm with you....."HUH?" ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skoaltrain on December 10, 2005, 04:22:38 PM
Looks like Wesley is on the other end of this rear-end kicking versus last week.  Not a fun feeling as we have been there twice.  2 years ago against Mt. Union and last week against you guys.....

Oh well, nothing a couple beers can't take care of.  A lot of us Bridgewater Faithful are heading to Salem next Saturday.  If you want to drown your sorrows, feel free to drop by Stone Station.  All in all, still a great run in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pakownr97 on December 10, 2005, 04:36:58 PM
PAWesleyFan,

Congratulations on your team's great season.  Wesley is much better than they looked today.  Just like Bridgewater is much better than they looked last week.

The deeper you go in the playoffs, the more it hurts to lose, especially when your team doesn't show up.  Don't try to figure it out.  It doesn't make sense.  UWW is a very good team for sure.  But they are not 50 points better than Wesley.  Just like Wesley is not 50 points better than BC.  It just wasn't your team's day today.  Nor was last Saturday my team's day.

Like Skoal said, nothin' a few beers won't take care of.  May we meet again in next year's playoffs...at our place.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: downtown48 on December 10, 2005, 04:44:49 PM
If Wesley believed what Whitewater told them about their shoes, they deserve the double monkey stomp they are getting...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 10, 2005, 04:48:29 PM
Hopefully for Wesley fans, Whitewater posters are gracious winners.  From what I've seen, they will be. 

A couple of you all might be able to learn a little something from them.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: downtown48 on December 10, 2005, 05:27:09 PM
Kid...Nice shirt you've got on with your sweetie!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 10, 2005, 06:10:01 PM
wow that must feel horrible, told you to watch out for stanley but you wouldnt listen, how did beavers and lee do just wonderin, didnt hear their names over the load speaker
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2005, 06:14:31 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 10, 2005, 06:10:01 PM
wow that must feel horrible, told you to watch out for stanley but you wouldnt listen, how did beavers and lee do just wonderin, didnt hear their names over the load speaker
Nothing like a sore Winner !!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: heywood220 on December 10, 2005, 06:14:34 PM
quick question ...    i heard a rumor after the game that Wesley didnt have the right shoes on???    Honestly this was going around whitewater im not joking or anything!!   If there is any truth to this Wesley needs to fire its equiptment manager, 2 loses over the wrong shoes, come on this is wisconsin in December!

Other wise Good season Wesley, from previous games you showd that you deserved to be in the Semis.  Wish it could have been a closer game, but i liked the outcome, even more so after sitting outside for 5 hours in the Wisconsin cold.  

Go Hawks, BEAT MU
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 10, 2005, 06:22:13 PM
Quote from: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 03:08:34 PM
Since when does Wesley care what Whitewater says? - they have their own professionals in their equipement staff, right? They need to wear what the conditions call for!! If they are complaining about that, they better go home now.

I have to agree...besides, do they really want this year remembered as the year they lost two games with lopsided results because they weren't thorough enough in their preparation to go out with the equipment?

Like the old saying goes: Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2005, 06:28:53 PM
Coach Drass never once said that the shoes cost them the game in Brockport. And I think that he will say they just didn't play well today. I would hate to think that WW would do something like that. But if they did then it really does sour this win for them and always leave that doubt in peoples minds..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 06:45:05 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2005, 06:28:53 PM
Coach Drass never once said that the shoes cost them the game in Brockport. And I think that he will say they just didn't play well today. I would hate to think that WW would do something like that. But if they did then it really does sour this win for them and always leave that doubt in peoples minds..

I listened to the post-game press conference, and you are right, he said it had nothing to do with shoes. However, from comments of the WW players at the press conference, they were saying they were happy to see Wesley come out in cleats because they knew they would be in trouble considering the turf conditions, they were actually joking about it. I Warhawk website will probably have the comments up on their playoff page soon for all to listen to.  At least they did for the other playoff games. The WW players changed into turf shoes after pre-game warmups. Furthermore, these players were even commenting that the Wesley players were asking them if they really enjoyed playing in this kind of weather. From the sound of it, the Wesley players were more concerned with the weather than playing football. But, shoes aside, the results would not have changed by playing on a dry warm day.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inferno4488 on December 10, 2005, 06:46:39 PM
For those of you who dont know Wesley is half way across the country from wisconsin, so for you to say that an equipment manager(which i dont even think they have) should be fired, to my understanding is the coach suggests to the other team what they should wear, now this may or may not have effected wesley, but the bottom line is it didnt really matter, wesley was in over there head against a great football team that will probably win next week, so congrats to you whitewater fans and best of luck to you
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 10, 2005, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2005, 06:28:53 PM
Coach Drass never once said that the shoes cost them the game in Brockport. And I think that he will say they just didn't play well today. I would hate to think that WW would do something like that. But if they did then it really does sour this win for them and always leave that doubt in peoples minds..

PA-Wesleyfan...never said the Coach said anything about shoes, but there were a fair number of post claiming that wearing the wrong shoes for a muddy field was the major  reason for Wesley's big loss to Brockport.

But again, unless teams are only allowed to take one pair of shoes, why would it matter if WW did that? Wouldn't Wesley go out and make their own assessment as to what shoes are needed?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 06:55:09 PM
Quote from: Bwana on December 10, 2005, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2005, 06:28:53 PM
Coach Drass never once said that the shoes cost them the game in Brockport. And I think that he will say they just didn't play well today. I would hate to think that WW would do something like that. But if they did then it really does sour this win for them and always leave that doubt in peoples minds..

PA-Wesleyfan...never said the Coach said anything about shoes, but there were a fair number of post claiming that wearing the wrong shoes for a muddy field was the major  reason for Wesley's big loss to Brockport.

But again, unless teams are only allowed to take one pair of shoes, why would it matter if WW did that? Wouldn't Wesley go out and make their own assessment as to what shoes are needed?

I know playoff rosters are limited to 52 players, but I didn't know you are only allowed 1 pair of shoes to travel with. Is is standard practice for the home team to advise the visitors about what kind of shoes to wear to a game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 10, 2005, 07:00:49 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 10, 2005, 06:10:01 PM
wow that must feel horrible, told you to watch out for stanley but you wouldnt listen, how did beavers and lee do just wonderin, didnt hear their names over the load speaker

So maybe I was wrong about all Whitewater posters being gracious winners.

Once fans of a school get used to their team winning in the playoffs (years of it), perhaps the post-game trash talking will subside.  It must be a tough concept for fans to realize that only one team wins it all each year.  Doesn't mean the accomplishments of the others who didn't shouldn't be recognized.

Excellent season Wesley.  Keep the run going next year (just not against Bridgewater ;))!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inferno4488 on December 10, 2005, 07:08:34 PM
Seoul yes it is standard,and i also know wesley couldnt practice on the field friday because it was covered,again congrats and nice win
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 10, 2005, 07:19:22 PM
How many games did Wesley play on natural turf this year? Appears like they don't have that opportunity too often.  If I were a coach, there might be two people I would trust regarding the shoes to wear - one would be me and the other would not be the opposing coach!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WSUFan on December 10, 2005, 09:12:18 PM
Quote from: inferno4488 on December 10, 2005, 07:08:34 PM
Seoul yes it is standard,and i also know wesley couldnt practice on the field friday because it was covered,again congrats and nice win

It's my understanding from the Championship handbook that, as a general rule,  practice is not permitted on a natural-surface game field. If it's an artificial surface then you are permitted to practice on the game field.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 10, 2005, 10:28:19 PM
PA_Wesleyfan-

BTW, love your sig line!


"Football !!! The ultimate team sport. Anyone who plays DIII football is a winner..."
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 11, 2005, 01:14:30 AM
Call out my pick if you wish but the facts are I picked UWW to win  (only by 1 point) and that since the game was delayed until 2 PM my 1:43 PM post was still pre game.
   For those Wesley students that taunted me on the BC side last week (I yelled Brockport St. and Linfield at them who knew?), how does it feel this week to lose even worse?
   Wesley had a great season and good fans for the most part other than those few that came to our side and taunted us.
  To UWW good luck vs Mount Union.

   Seoul Guy: You also posted that Wesley could give UWW a game and that with a break or 2 anything is possible. Your pick of 42-21 UWW was closer than my 31-30 UWW pick(posted on the ODAC pick em board). Guess that helps explain the -21 karma. Congrats on being somewhat closer on the pick than I was.
Title: Photos!
Post by: Ryan Coleman on December 11, 2005, 03:02:35 AM
Howdy everyone! I just wanted to let you know that the photos from the game are now available at http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=512.

Thank you for your support of D3football.com!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Jeremybozz on December 11, 2005, 10:36:04 PM
 The silence on this board is deafening.  (Sorry, I could not resist.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: warhawkexpress28 on December 11, 2005, 10:44:59 PM
Quote from: eh ... just call me 'kid' on December 10, 2005, 07:00:49 PM
Quote from: warhawkexpress on December 10, 2005, 06:10:01 PM
wow that must feel horrible, told you to watch out for stanley but you wouldnt listen, how did beavers and lee do just wonderin, didnt hear their names over the load speaker

So maybe I was wrong about all Whitewater posters being gracious winners.

Once fans of a school get used to their team winning in the playoffs (years of it), perhaps the post-game trash talking will subside. It must be a tough concept for fans to realize that only one team wins it all each year. Doesn't mean the accomplishments of the others who didn't shouldn't be recognized.

Excellent season Wesley. Keep the run going next year (just not against Bridgewater ;))!

hey i tell you what if the game was played on a different surface i might say the game would have been closer, i could def see the speed of some of Wesleys players.  and i was right next to some of the Wesley players when they were going on the field and alot of them were carring there spikes with them and wearin shoes so i dont know what teh problem was, i know when i played we always carried 2-3 pairs of shoes in our travel bags just in case,
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 11, 2005, 11:38:27 PM
Well it looks pretty clear here that at least 1 down lineman had field turf shoes on for Wesley. Don't know if this was from the 2nd half though. ???

http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=512&photo=0013

Altough on further review, some of their skill guys did not:
http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=512&photo=0175
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2005, 11:53:41 PM
Photo 13 is definitely first half, they are numbered in the order they were shot. The latter one is probably second half.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on December 12, 2005, 08:46:59 AM
PA_wesleyfan & the Wolverine Nation:

Congratulations on a great year and representing Wesley College and the ACFC conference.  Good luck next year except when you play Salisbury!

The Wolverines have alot of returning players which should have you ranked in the pre-season polls next year.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 12, 2005, 08:57:04 AM
Just wanted to pass along my thought (singular) for the game.  The best team won.

Good job to everyone.  Good luck to WW in Salem. 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wrighthall220 on December 12, 2005, 09:30:28 AM
Congrats to Wesley! You all had a great season, I hope to see you all back in the dance next year!    As for the shoe deal.. I hope this doesn't turn into an excuse or a rampant complaint... you all did well this year, there is nothing to be ashamed of or any reason to make excuses for a loss.  Again great year!   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ryan Coleman on December 12, 2005, 11:58:52 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on December 11, 2005, 11:38:27 PM
Well it looks pretty clear here that at least 1 down lineman had field turf shoes on for Wesley. Don't know if this was from the 2nd half though. ???

http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=512&photo=0013

Altough on further review, some of their skill guys did not:
http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=512&photo=0175

Yes, photo 13 is from the first half and 175 is from the second half (the brought the plows out at halftime).

--
Ryan
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: voice on December 12, 2005, 03:15:26 PM
One last thing on Wesley College and "shoe gate."

The Wolverines were in Whitewater on Friday and practiced at UWW's practice complex on the north end of campus.  Not sure what shoes they were wearing, but they did practice on frozen turf.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 12, 2005, 07:10:58 PM
 It was reported in one of the Del. newspapers that it was so cold Fridaty that Coach Drass' whistle froze to his lip. Boy: that would have been a keepsake pic.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 12, 2005, 07:15:42 PM
  Congrats to the Wesley football team for a great season.
They certainly kept the fans on their feet with all the exciting play and it was a sight to see!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bportrocks on December 12, 2005, 11:07:04 PM
wesley tried to use the same excuse for bad footing when they got trounced by brockport earlier this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 13, 2005, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 12, 2005, 07:15:42 PM
  Congrats to the Wesley football team for a great season.
They certainly kept the fans on their feet with all the exciting play and it was a sight to see!!!!!

PA_wesleyfan - They did have a great season. Too bad the team couldn't stay ON THEIR feet during the last game  :(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 13, 2005, 06:35:15 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 12, 2005, 07:10:58 PM
It was reported in one of the Del. newspapers that it was so cold Fridaty that Coach Drass' whistle froze to his lip. Boy: that would have been a keepsake pic.

True...the thought will have me flashing on "A Christmas Story" and the "Triple Dog Dare" the rest of the day! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2005, 05:35:16 PM
Quote from: bportrocks on December 12, 2005, 11:07:04 PM
wesley tried to use the same excuse for bad footing when they got trounced by brockport earlier this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on December 18, 2005, 09:29:13 AM
I think Salisbury will have the grass about 6 inches deep when Wesley comes next year.  We have to even the odds some how!
Congrats to Wesley on a great year.  I know it hurts to fall short of the ultimate goal this year.  However, years from now they will remember what an incredible ride it is to go that deep into the playoffs.  Just remember, to do it again next year you will most likely need to win a game in some very bad conditions.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 19, 2005, 05:55:46 PM
well geesh they have Wesley ranked 10th in the final ranking for the year  ??? they were one of the final four teams left and they have about 80% of there team back from this year can someone please explain this 2 me
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 19, 2005, 06:14:05 PM
WCswann28sis,
The voters thought that Wesley was the strongest team to come out of a very weak South Region.

If you notice, there were 5 West Region teams, 2 from the East Region, 2 from the OAC of the North Region ranked ahead of Wesley.  UMHB and Bridgewater were tied for a distant 11th (by 77 votes).

Ordinarily there should be 25 votes between positions in the rankings.  MUC was a unaminous 1st place.  UW-W was a unanimous 2nd place.

The voters looked at the relative strengths from the outcomes of the playoff games and voted accordingly.  The UWW-Wesley outcome surely influenced the voters, as did UW-W and Linfield. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 20, 2005, 08:06:42 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 19, 2005, 06:14:05 PM
WCswann28sis,
The voters thought that Wesley was the strongest team to come out of a very weak South Region.

If you notice, there were 5 West Region teams, 2 from the East Region, 2 from the OAC of the North Region ranked ahead of Wesley.  UMHB and Bridgewater were tied for a distant 11th (by 77 votes).

Ordinarily there should be 25 votes between positions in the rankings.  MUC was a unaminous 1st place.  UW-W was a unanimous 2nd place.

The voters looked at the relative strengths from the outcomes of the playoff games and voted accordingly.  The UWW-Wesley outcome surely influenced the voters, as did UW-W and Linfield. :)

I don't know that the voters see the South as "very weak", but clearly they see the region as solid but not earth shaking.  Only Wesley made the top ten, but there were six south region teams in the top 25, plus another three in the also-rans.

However, as noted elsewhere, I thought Wesley would have at least made the top eight.  My personal point of reference is BC in 2003.  Won the South region, got snowed under in Alliance by 66-0, and finished #7 in the final D3 poll.  Given the way that Wesley dominated teams, and especially with the road with at UMHB, I figured them for a higher finish.

However, althought it may sting now, it matters not in the long run.  The Wolverines had a 2005 season to be proud of, and seem to have a ton of people coming back next year-2006 should be a good year for them!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 20, 2005, 08:48:17 AM
Quote from: Bwana on December 20, 2005, 08:06:42 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 19, 2005, 06:14:05 PM
WCswann28sis,
The voters thought that Wesley was the strongest team to come out of a very weak South Region.
[...]

I don't know that the voters see the South as "very weak",

[...]

I agree.  The south region is fine ... we've had our years (with Trinity and Bridgewater) where the south could have been considered the toughest region.  Changes year to year.

This season, a 7-2 DePauw team lost by only three points to the north's #1-seed (Wabash) ... a 6-4 CNU team lost by only a touchdown to the east region champion (Rowan) ... and Mary Hardin-Baylor defeated the NWC's 2nd place team (the NWC being Linfield's conference) Williamette 45-24.

So those are some nice looking south region wins or losses versus a north, east and west team.  I'm sure there are others.

But I suppose people will think the south is weak when the regional champ (Wesley) gets beat by 52 in the semis.  As did the east's Rowan (by 52) in the 2004 semis.  As did the south's Bridgewater (by 66) in the 2003 semis.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 20, 2005, 11:32:14 AM
Quote from: eh ... just call me 'kid' on December 20, 2005, 08:48:17 AM

But I suppose people will think the south is weak when the regional champ (Wesley) gets beat by 52 in the semis.  As did the east's Rowan (by 52) in the 2004 semis.  As did the south's Bridgewater (by 66) in the 2003 semis.

Yep-"What Have You Done for Me Lately" is more than a Janet Jackson song-it seems to be the first question asked by pollsters at all levels...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 20, 2005, 02:57:55 PM
The mathematical probability of any region is to get 6 teams in the top 25! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 20, 2005, 08:01:09 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 20, 2005, 02:57:55 PM
The mathematical probability of any region is to get 6 teams in the top 25! ;D

Absolutely...but if the voters thought a region was very weak (as you suggested above), then I doubt the voters would succumb to the mathematical probability you mention and voted fewer teams to the Top 25

I think the results indicate that the voters thought the South region teams were good and talented but not world beaters...which is a far cry from very weak
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 20, 2005, 09:50:13 PM
Except that the expected distribution would also be to have one in the top 4, one from 5-8, one from 9-12, etc. That didn't happen.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bwana on December 20, 2005, 10:03:07 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 20, 2005, 09:50:13 PM
Except that the expected distribution would also be to have one in the top 4, one from 5-8, one from 9-12, etc. That didn't happen.
Pat-

I confess I am slow on the statistical stuff-shoot, we were just moving from abacuses to slide rules when I was in college, but I don't understand where you are going.

I am not suggesting that the 2005 south region was necessarily equal to the other regions.  If it was, then I would expect the one in each four position increment. 

All I am suggesting is that if the South was truly considered to be very weak, then isn't it reasonable to think that the South would have had less than a quarter of the top 25 slots?

But that did not happen...in fact, I bet if you did an average of the slots held by each region (Position 1=1 point, etc), the South would not have the  highest total.

But as I said, I am not a statistical expert or an IT whiz, just sort of thinking out loud...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesley18 on December 21, 2005, 01:40:10 PM
What a great year Welsey pulled off this year.  I think their #10 ranking will be inspiration for next year.  As far as the voting, I feel that if you make the final four you should at least be no further down than #6, but hey that's just me. You can't help what region you're placed into come playoffs. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 21, 2005, 03:05:05 PM
No, but we're not going to punish teams with tougher matchups either.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: religion_major on December 21, 2005, 05:31:05 PM
In all reality the playoffs are very poor at determaining what order teams 2-12 or so should be in.  They are very good at determaining the #1 team which is what they are designed to do.  For Wesley, I would say that it is an acomplishment to make the top ten, but I don't see any what to differentiate between teams 3 or 4 to team 10 to 12 other than the opinion of the voters.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 24, 2005, 06:28:01 PM
Happy Holidays to you all. Lets get the posts going early and often next year and support the conference like you all did during the playoffs. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Good health to all .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on December 31, 2005, 02:04:03 PM
It's been a while since I posted so............

Happy New Year to all ACFC supporters and all of D3 in general! 

Congrats to Wesley on its great run. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on January 06, 2006, 11:16:32 PM
interesting schedule posted for you guys bport.....we're coming up in November this year....

brrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 07, 2006, 08:31:25 PM
sid

just think you could be going from a hurrican to a blizzard the same day!!!
Quote from: nnasid on January 06, 2006, 11:16:32 PM
interesting schedule posted for you guys bport.....we're coming up in November this year....

brrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on January 08, 2006, 03:08:04 AM
Quote from: nnasid on January 06, 2006, 11:16:32 PM
interesting schedule posted for you guys bport.....we're coming up in November this year....

brrrrrrrrrrr

November isn't that bad....hahaha...

Brockport's Schedule looks to be the bear it usually is, though it does get SLIGHTLY easier on the scale, I would assume, with the addition of Morrisville, taking the place of Rowan, who's home and home with the port is over. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on January 08, 2006, 01:48:12 PM
Oh yeah...upstate NY + November = good possibility of white stuff

we're still looking for one game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on January 09, 2006, 12:35:16 PM
So it looks like Brockport will remain in the ACFC while Buffalo State is leaving?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on January 26, 2006, 03:05:09 PM
Does anybody post in here anymore?? ???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on January 27, 2006, 10:16:07 AM
slow season in here for sure ???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 27, 2006, 09:11:08 PM
thats the only problem with being a football onlt conference. people don't come here much in the off season. cept us old fans'
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 31, 2006, 08:48:19 PM
Wesley released it's 2006 schedule, 7 home games. 
Home game with Waynesburg to start. Road games with Huntington,Frostburg and Salisbury. Interesting side note. Morrisville is playing everyone in the conference except Frostburg. I have heard that Morrisville was leaning toward the NJAC???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2006, 11:48:24 PM
Gonna be tough to make the playoffs this way. Only six Division III opponents (Chowan, Morrisville, Newport News and Seton Hill don't count, although some are provisional members). Only five regional games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Fightin Hawk on February 01, 2006, 01:41:56 PM
Since LaGrange is an indy (at least for now) guess I'll talk about it here.  Their schedule is not too easy...

@Maryville (the Scots are up and coming)
Rhodes -tough game
Shorter - 2nd year NAIA team that is VERY well coached
@Bridgewater - no need to mention how tough this game is
@Louisiana College - another toughie
Washington (Mo.) - don't know much about them
@Mississippi College - played some teams tough last year
Brevard - 1st year NAIA & D2 wannabe team
Centre College - Tough
@Huntingdon - (MUCH improved & Tough)

What do you guys think? 1-9? 0-10?

LaGrange has some very nice facilities and is in a very good area for recruiting.  They will probably compete for athletes with Huntingdon, which is just down the road and maybe Shorter, which offers scholarships.

I would like to see DIII football in the deep south make a name for itself so that maybe more schools will jump on the bandwagon.

Pat, any word on schools in the south are considering the move???

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 01, 2006, 02:17:06 PM
The only other rumor I'd heard was about Oglethorpe and that is now three years ago. I think that is probably dead.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on February 01, 2006, 03:42:31 PM
wow...after the year Wesley had I figured it would be tough to get home games....
but 7.....wow
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 01, 2006, 03:59:50 PM
Fighting Hawk, Welcome aboard.  Glad to see that LaGrange added football.  As for competing for talent, I think that LaGrange will do well.  It has taken about a decade for the ASC to make big in-roads in the "I got a football/basketball/baseball/whatever scholarship" mentality in the Southwest.

Huntingdon's good team last year brought nice attention to them.  I think that LaGrange football will be a great thing.  There is too much football talent in Alabama, Georgia and Florida not to succeed.  Practically speaking, there never has been a D3 option in that part of the country.  I look forward to seeing football grow in the Southeast.

Maybe now, Oglethorpe and Piedmont will add some D3 Georgia football, too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 01, 2006, 04:37:42 PM
Quote from: nnasid on February 01, 2006, 03:42:31 PM
wow...after the year Wesley had I figured it would be tough to get home games....
but 7.....wow
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2006, 11:48:24 PM
Gonna be tough to make the playoffs this way. Only six Division III opponents (Chowan, Morrisville, Newport News and Seton Hill don't count, although some are provisional members). Only five regional games.

  Suprised to not see Depauw recipricating a home game for Wesley.

  Pat I think they only had 6 south region games last year too, though adding Morrisville gives them one more provisional opponent.   

  NNASId any scoops on conference expansion?? I won't here any rumors til the golf outing in May!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 01, 2006, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on February 01, 2006, 04:37:42 PM

Suprised to not see Depauw recipricating a home game for Wesley.

Pat I think they only had 6 south region games last year too, though adding Morrisville gives them one more provisional opponent.

They have five this year, though, not six.

I'm not too surprised. I think that was a one-year deal all the way after Ferrum dropped Wesley this time last winter.
Title: A
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 01, 2006, 05:13:12 PM

   Pat
   
Which teams are ?? I looked back and count only four last year. Is Seton Hill provisional? I know Depauw, Salisbury, Frostburg and Averett.
  Kean, Buff. St., BPort St., are in the east  Chowan is DII. Seton Hill? and NNA? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Fightin Hawk on February 01, 2006, 10:22:59 PM
Thanks Ralph.

I heard that LaGrange has a home and home contract with Sewanee starting in 2007, which will be good.  They should have at least have 4 definite games each year in Sewanee, Maryville, Huntingdon and Shorter (NAIA in-state rival).  The HC was an assistant at Rhodes so that may be a yearly rival as well. 

Did I hear correctly that the SCAC was thinking of expanding?  If so, think they will gobble up Huntingdon and LaGrange? 

Yeah, it would be great if Piedmont and Oglethorpe started football.  I talked with a member of Piedmont's athletic staff a couple of years ago and when I asked if he ever saw football coming to Piedmont he laughed...hard.  I don't know if things have changed or not, but maybe LaGrange and Huntingdon's success (at least we hope LaGrange has success) will open some eyes. 

It sure would be nice to see a Georgia/Tennessee/Alabama/Mississippi/Kentucky conference with LaGrange, Huntingdon, Maryville, Sewanee, Rhodes, Milsaps, Centre and Mississippi College.  Out of conference games could be held against the USAC and the ASC.  Oh well, wishful thinking.


Title: Re: A
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 01, 2006, 10:26:34 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on February 01, 2006, 05:13:12 PM

   Pat
   
Which teams are ?? I looked back and count only four last year. Is Seton Hill provisional? I know Depauw, Salisbury, Frostburg and Averett.
  Kean, Buff. St., BPort St., are in the east  Chowan is DII. Seton Hill? and NNA? 

I count only 4 South Region as well.  Is Kean a 200-mile radius team?

Seton Hill should be first-year provisional.

NNA is an NCAA-affiliate.  The games and stats are recognized for official purposes, but NNA is not a full NCAA member.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 01, 2006, 10:41:29 PM
good question about kean.. i am about 2hrs south of kean and wesley is exactly 100 miles south of me which takes about 2 hrs sooo. it's a close call
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 01, 2006, 10:41:53 PM
Fighting Hawk,

I think that the SCAC expansion is a "mission/vison" thing.

Currently the only SCAC school that does not have a Phi Beta Kappa chapter is Oglethorpe.  New member Austin College added their Phi Beta Kappa Chapter about 2000.  A Phi Beta Kappa chapter has not been good enough for University of Dallas to gain admission to the SCAC since they left the ASC in 2001.

One inferred criterion is the admission standards that are available in the professional education literature, and I would expect it to be more exclusive than US News and World Report lists, too.

One other measure that might infer a certain level of prestige is the endowment.

http://www.nacubo.org/documents/research/FY04NESInstitutionsbyTotalAssetsforPress.pdf

Colorado College is reported to be the next addition to the SCAC.  Their endowment is greater than $423 Million.

Interesting to see what will happen in the southeast...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 01, 2006, 10:44:08 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on February 01, 2006, 10:41:29 PM
good question about kean.. i am about 2hrs south of kean and wesley is exactly 100 miles south of me which takes about 2 hrs sooo. it's a close call

Streets and Maps 2004 is the authority for "In-region".

I don't have access to a copy. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 01, 2006, 11:01:58 PM
Kean is regional. That's why we marked it that way on last year's schedule!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 01, 2006, 11:04:47 PM
yep i just googled it.. 61 miles from here. and 100 to wesley
Title: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: acfcposter on February 26, 2006, 08:29:20 PM
Does anyone have any early predictions on how the ACFC teams will fare next year? I have to assume that Salisbury will be hit very hard with graduation. Any opinions?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 26, 2006, 10:02:19 PM
Wesley has to be a favorite with what they have coming back. But with their Schedule they may have to run the table to get back to the playoffs. Homecoming
looks like it will be a fun day with Bport the opponent
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 02, 2006, 11:14:53 PM
With the MAC teams scrambling to fill their schedules for 2007 maybe now we will see Widener and Del-Val coming to Del. and Maryland in the near future. They are both within the milage limit for region games too. A Wesley /Del-Val match up in Doylestown would be a five minute trip for me.  There are quite a few Wesley alum. in this area too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on March 03, 2006, 06:20:07 PM
Who is actually left in the conference now?

I see either Wesley or Salisbury at the top as of current talent/talent lost

1-Wesley
21-Salisbury
3-Brockport (if still in conference)
4 Newport
5 Buffalo (if still in conference)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 03, 2006, 10:51:26 PM

  Buffalo left the conference so it's still WC, SSU, Frostburg St., BPort and
NNA


quote author=luvapontiac link=topic=3755.msg500522#msg500522 date=1141428007]
Who is actually left in the conference now?

I see either Wesley or Salisbury at the top as of current talent/talent lost

1-Wesley
21-Salisbury
3-Brockport (if still in conference)
4 Newport
5 Buffalo (if still in conference)
Quote

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on March 04, 2006, 03:22:59 PM
well i have a few picks

1- wesley
2/3/4- salisbury
3/2/4- brockport
4/3/2-frostburg
5-newport news

might be a crazy year but my boys have 7 home game so watch that plus i dont think salisbury will be able to even play with then this year even though they are at home dang near everyone is coming back and salisbury is rebuilding but they always find some players but i believe it will be a fight for the second third and fourth spot should be an intresting year
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 12, 2006, 02:28:12 PM
  WOW

ESPN has it's Swammy and now we have our Swanny!! I hope you perdict as good as he does WCsis. I think that the Wolverines will need at least a conference championship  and 9 wins to get into the playoffs in 2006. I am not so sure that if they don't go undefeated that they will get in. Unfortunately strength of schedule is going to hurt and be a huge factor in the decision.
   The being said I think the Wolverines are going to burn up the turf again as long as they can keep thier sites on the big picture. And of course who better to bring out that point than Coach Drass. I think they may also come back hungry after coming close to that dream of a championship game.   

   
Quote from: WCswann28sis on March 04, 2006, 03:22:59 PM
well i have a few picks

1- wesley
2/3/4- salisbury
3/2/4- brockport
4/3/2-frostburg
5-newport news

might be a crazy year but my boys have 7 home game so watch that plus i dont think salisbury will be able to even play with then this year even though they are at home dang near everyone is coming back and salisbury is rebuilding but they always find some players but i believe it will be a fight for the second third and fourth spot should be an intresting year
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on March 18, 2006, 09:14:37 PM
Salisbury starts the season with a tough 4 game run.  First on the road to Washington & Jefferson.  Then they come home to face Brockport and CNU.  Finally, they hit the road to face Montclair St., ending what could be a very rough start for the Gulls.  Add in Wesley and Widener later in the year...ouch.  Though, I feel Coach Wood will have them ready to go when the season starts.  Hopefully they will play more disciplined football this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on March 18, 2006, 10:19:13 PM
Builders open at NC Wesleyan and Frostburg (a 6 pm start at bobcat stadium)
before hosting the always powerful BYE team (ok..smartalic alert)
then Emory & Henry and Salisbury to close out September

October they will travel to Morrisville, NY and Dover (and we're not homecoming for Wesley...woohoo) before hosting NY Maritime and Southern Va.

November the Builders go to Brockport (brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr) then host Chowan
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 20, 2006, 11:27:44 PM
 NNASid
   I noticed that most of  the ACFC teams are playing Morrisville!!!! Interesting.... I grew up about 10 miles from there. Was better know for it's basketball in the past. Teachers college as I remember it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 19, 2006, 09:41:59 PM
LaGrange plays first year football program at transitioning D-2 Brevard NC College including several from the SAC (Southern Athletic Conference).

Brevard is coming from the NAIA.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on April 24, 2006, 06:25:35 AM
Here is a nice article about SU football player's involvement in the local schools.  It is great to see bus loads of kids at the games cheering on their favorite players.

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060424/NEWS01/604240301/1002
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on April 26, 2006, 12:35:35 PM
Bigtoe:

Thanks for the article on Leroy Satchell.  Coach Wood runs a great program at Salisbury.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on April 26, 2006, 10:07:52 PM
After about a 4 month break from the posting boards for no apparant reason, It is good to come back and see such a great story posted....Love to see students doing good.

Anyway, my comic relief for the week was reading Pat's Comments about the NESCAC's schedule on the front page  8).  Gosh that just seems like a boring and repetive schedule...season after season with not even a change in the time of year for all 8 games, and no new teams added to the mix...ugh!

Anything else new in the ACFC I should know about?  :P
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on May 05, 2006, 01:29:57 PM
Port:

Nothing much has happen in the ACFC.  I hope Salisbury can get over the "hump" in the NCAA's next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on May 16, 2006, 05:09:58 PM
Some sad news out of Seagull football land.

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060516/NEWS01/605160314/1002

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-te.ar.shooting16may16,0,7347284.story?coll=bal-home-headlines
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on May 21, 2006, 08:17:27 PM
FSU's Kevin Culbert was signed (and released) by the Cleveland Brown.

I'm kind of bummed out that he was cut as quickly as he was, but it's still nice to see one of our boys get a shot at the NFL.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on May 21, 2006, 09:20:13 PM
Bigtoe75:

It was indeed a tragic loss for the Seagull Football family with the loss of freshman linebacker Justin Fisher.  May God comfort his family the the Salisbury University family.

FSU Bobcats:

Hopefully Kevin will get another look by another team and/or get a chance next year in Europe.  Salisbury's Kyle Acker was in the New Orleans Saints camp, and was cut and ended up playing in the NFL European league.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on May 22, 2006, 06:54:48 PM
I hope so.  Maybe he can hook on with an AFL team if nothing else.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on June 09, 2006, 09:12:57 AM
Any early predictions regarding who will win the ACFC Football crown this year?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 11, 2006, 11:25:13 PM
Faulkner AL, NAIA in Montgomery AL, is adding football in the 2007 season.

They are the 3rd NAIA school in the Southern States Athletic Conference to add football.  Shorter GA, added in 2005. Reinhardt, GA is adding it this year.

http://naia.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/060906aab.html
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on June 30, 2006, 04:07:51 PM
Bigtoe75:

I know Salisbury has Westbrook returning for his senior year, and Brooks Moser should be back too, but who are the other "Big Dogs" for the Seagulls?  Also who will be the QB since both both verteran QB's are gone?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on July 07, 2006, 08:45:40 AM
Here is some info on incoming freshman.

http://www.wboc.com/Global/story.asp?S=5122750&nav=menu222_6
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 07, 2006, 04:28:57 PM
here are Wesley's listed incoming underclassmen and frosh. there are over one hundred names there. AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE

http://www.athletics.wesley.edu/football/football-roster.html
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on July 17, 2006, 10:34:43 AM
Bigtoe:

Thanks for the Salisbury Football link!


PA_wesleyfan:

Can't wait for the Wolverine/Seagull game this year in the "Bury".
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 17, 2006, 09:56:31 PM
 Should be a great one. BUT my dad is getting married that day soooooooooo.
Can't blame him though he left all the home dates open!!!He really did!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on July 18, 2006, 04:45:11 PM
getting closer and closer......it should be a fun season this year in the new look (yet again) ACFC
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on July 22, 2006, 01:42:25 PM
PA_wesleyfan:

Too bad you won't be able to make the game, but there will many more Salisbury/Wesley football games.  Your Dads wedding is more important, besides, you can take a laptop and perhaps get updates  ;D .


nnasid:

Great to see you back, and it does promise to be a great season for the conference, especially with Wesley's success in last years NCAA's. 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on July 24, 2006, 06:05:19 PM
It'll be interesting to see if the SeaGull machine reloads after losing top QB's and RB....while the Wolverines return almost everyone but the kitchen sink ;D.

That battle for Rt. 13 I bet will be fun to see again.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on July 25, 2006, 08:29:16 PM
Hey  NNASid, how are the Shipbuilders looking for this season? I think they may be the surprise team of the league this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on July 26, 2006, 10:18:01 AM
nnsid:

I hope the home field advantage helps the Gulls as much as it did the Wolverines last season.  It should be a good game, barring injuries to both squads.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on July 26, 2006, 11:34:35 AM
its always an interesting time to see what new crops of Shipbuilders come into the fray.  We return a good core of players so I hope we can hold true to that surprise prediction.

:)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on July 29, 2006, 11:59:30 AM
I've been out of touch too long...Can't wait to follow the season though.  I am certainly ready for some football.  Should be a nice season in the ACFC.  Good Luck to all teams. 

Jeesh I wish I was near any D-3 Football schools at all!  All I hear about are the hurricanes gators and seminoles...and now Florida Atlantic, just minutes from me, became a D-1A school and they are non-stop as well.

I want D-3 Action!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 30, 2006, 09:26:38 PM
  NNASID

When does the league release it's preseason coaches picks?


Quote from: nnasid on July 18, 2006, 04:45:11 PM
getting closer and closer......it should be a fun season this year in the new look (yet again) ACFC
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on July 31, 2006, 06:19:58 PM
Probably will be another week.  We dont have a media day, so its been more the first full week of August.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 03, 2006, 10:37:10 AM
nnsid:

Any info on a replacement for Buff State, and the possibilities of adding a few teams for the ACFC?

Can't wait for the season to begin!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inkman on August 06, 2006, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: luvapontiac on July 25, 2006, 08:29:16 PM
Hey  NNASid, how are the Shipbuilders looking for this season? I think they may be the surprise team of the league this year.

I think too many people are overlooking Brockport.  They are bringing back an awful lot of talent.  Unfortunatley, they are playing a lot of conference road games this year.   They still have one of the toughest schedules but I think they will do alright. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 07, 2006, 08:44:26 AM
Inkman:

I don't think people are overlooking B-Port, but Wesley had a tremendous season, and has their core returning.  I still think Salisbury could have given the Wolverines a run for their money with a healthy Dustin Johnson, but we will never know.  The reference to NNA, was due to the excellent season the Shipbuilders had last year. 

I can't wait for the season to begin!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 10, 2006, 06:16:29 PM
Bad news for Wesley fans. Larry Beavers will not play this year according to a Down state new report . Someone else will have to step up and catch some balls.  But like last year you never know where the next  Larry Beavers or Marcus Lee might pop up . Shame though as Beavers was fun to watch !!! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 10, 2006, 08:59:36 PM
yikes...what happened there.
with Lanouette back as well its another weapon in the arsenal of Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 10, 2006, 10:56:33 PM
 According to the article, academics! We'll see if he enrolls for fall classes. Has happened where others stuck it out and came back BUT....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 11, 2006, 12:03:34 PM
That's a shame as he's an incredible talent.

Be on the lookout for a coaches pre-season poll first of next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 12, 2006, 06:54:50 AM
PA_wesleyfan:

It is a shame about Beavers.  It good to see how d3 schools police themselves, unlike the d1 boys who will let anyone play and plead ignorance when they are caught.


nnasid:

I can't wait to see the pre-season conference polls and predictions.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleyrocks833 on August 12, 2006, 11:10:22 PM
Wesley has not only lost Beavers but they lost a good recruit named Akeem Richards (WR). I don't if you know about this or not. Even though Wesley has lost 2 good WR I think they will be fine this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 13, 2006, 01:58:13 PM
Quote from: wesleyrocks833 on August 12, 2006, 11:10:22 PM
Wesley has not only lost Beavers but they lost a good recruit named Akeem Richards (WR). I don't if you know about this or not. Even though Wesley has lost 2 good WR I think they will be fine this year.
I think with over 100 new kids coming in that Coach Drass and Coach Knapp will find a few good receivers to compliment  Marcus Lee. I just hope that fans don't expect Lanouetee to be his old self right away. It takes almoist two full years to return to pld form. BUT that being said he still will be better than most. But that 50 lbs he put on will change his game a bit.  And don't forget Korma.. I think he is going to be a stud back. He is fast and big and is not afraid to bull for the extra yrds.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleyrocks833 on August 14, 2006, 11:36:53 AM
I totally agree, Koroma will be a stud this year, and he is a nice replacement for Kevin Nelson who graduated last year. I am almost positive that they will find a WR to compliment Marcus Lee. I think Coach Chip Knapp will find a way to keep them scoring points on offense despite losing two key players.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 15, 2006, 11:51:07 AM
luvapontiac:

Any word as to who will start at QB for Salisbury, and will try and replace the rushing of Leroy Satchell?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Blazze19 on August 15, 2006, 12:25:46 PM
The backfield will more than likely be one of the strong points of the Offense. They have 3 good backs to fill the hole that Satchell left. Leonard, Fisher and Shockley are all pretty good.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 15, 2006, 06:19:16 PM
http://www.acfcfootball.com/media0607/60814football-poll-acfcpreseason.htm

Conference Pre-season poll and pre-season notes
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 15, 2006, 07:47:29 PM
Blazze19:

Thanks for the input on the Seagulls running back status.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 15, 2006, 07:54:17 PM
nnasid:

Thanks for the ACFC preseason poll link.  I really can't argue with the selections.  Salisbury has a "monster" schedule this year, having to play two highly ranked teams in Wesley and Washington & Jefferson, coupled with perrenial power Brockport and an always good Christopher Newport squad.  The Seagulls can't afford any injuries or mistakes, and will need quite a bit of luck to hopefully make it back to the NCAA postseason.

I would be interested in seeing how the ACFC ranked relative to power ratings.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on August 15, 2006, 09:00:16 PM
njlincolnlion,

You forgot the Mighty Red Hawks. Cant wait for you guys to venture to NJ.

LET'S  GO  MIGHTY  RED  HAWKS  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wilburt on August 16, 2006, 08:01:42 AM
Nice article on Huntingdon football turnout:

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608160344
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 16, 2006, 10:22:10 AM
rams1102:

Call me a "homer"  ;),  but I think the Seagulls, health permitting may handle the Red Hawks at home.  God willing, I plan on being at the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 16, 2006, 10:27:00 AM
wilburt:

Huntington has a "nice problem" to have with the number of players showing up for football.  Thanks for the "touche" support my friend. 

I'll keep you posted on Mayor Booker's progress in Newark.  a good site for ongoing info on Cory is www.nj.com specifically the "Star Ledger".
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 16, 2006, 04:19:23 PM
pre-season poll played out pretty much as I expected.  It'll be interesting to see how things pan out after the first couple weeks.  Salisbury does have a whale of a non-conference schedule (W&J, CNU, Montclair).  At least we got smart this year and didn't schedule Salisbury for homecoming like in '04 ;D  although that score was better than '05 (gulp)

We did catch SU on the worst possible week last year (after disappointing loss and losing DJ)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on August 16, 2006, 11:11:35 PM
Well I am Certainly looking forward to another season!  Is there anyone in the know from Brockport here know how they are looking?  -- I may be the only port poster and I am too far removed lately to know what's going on.

Anyway NNA, Ready to make another cold November trip to the port? 

Brockport starts with 3 on the road, and that'sreally going to be tough!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 17, 2006, 09:37:25 AM
well....I am just hoping for better travel than 2 years ago going to you guys.  When you spend 3 hours in the middle of the night at a convenient store/gas station in Winchester with a broken down bus (and for some it turned into almost 8 hours) :o...it doesnt start a long trip on the best of notes.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: inkman on August 17, 2006, 12:08:40 PM
Quote from: portgrad2004 on August 16, 2006, 11:11:35 PM
-- I may be the only port poster and I am too far removed lately to know what's going on.

No you're not.   :P  (the only port poster)    They just started camp.  Seems a bit late but who am I to criticize.  I'll get a report from my bro to see how things are going.  Do you visit the team site?  A few of the boys (including my sibling) are in Don Hansen's Preseason All Amercan team, for whatever that is worth. 

How I see things coming off last year:

Luke is back at QB and with half a season under his belt he should be ready to really light it up.  Kids got an arm and with almost every receiving threat coming back (WR/TE), he should do just fine.  The OL is massive, like last year, adn hopefully the blocking will be a little tighter this year.  For all their girth, they did not seem to block like they should have.  D-line should be awesome.  Two stud D-tackles to go with some speedy rushers on the edge will really reek havoc for opposing offenses.  Linebackers lost a lot with graduation but I suspect their are a couple of nuts ready to fill their shoes (I know, really in depth analysis).  The DB's are green as well but they can't do much worse than the last couple of years. 

Not sure who will be the #1 back but a lot of candidates starting with bruiser Garet Lynch. 

The sched is brutal but I think they replaced Rowan with Sprinfield which could be an easier game.  Looking forward to the season.  Go Eagles!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 19, 2006, 08:18:16 AM
Bigtoe75 or luvapontiac:

Who is the projected starter at QB for Salisbury?  Inquiring minds want to know.
Title: Re: Huntingdon Enrollment Increases
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 21, 2006, 09:58:58 AM
This article in the Montgomery Advertiser (http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608200321) says that Huntingdon will have its 4th year of enrollment increases.

It gives no numbers.  This is also the fourth year for football at Huntingdon.  I would like for a Huntingdon fan to give us 2002-2003 enrollment numbers and compare them to the 2006-07 numbers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 21, 2006, 11:50:01 AM
I found an Around The Region citation on our site of Huntingdon having 577 full-time undergrads, which it looks like was prior to the first season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Blazze19 on August 21, 2006, 12:39:21 PM
The projected Starter is Ronnie Curley.
Young kid, strong arm and some good feet. This Salisbury team has a new identity. Every 4 years you gotta refresh who you are

*Salisbury Grad here!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 21, 2006, 01:28:50 PM
Blazze19:

Thanks for the info on Ronnie Curley at QB, it was much appreciated.  You mentioned that Curley has a strong arm, does this mean Coach Wood is adopting a passing game as opposed to the option he ran with Dustin Johnson during the last four years?

I know the defence will have Westbrook and Moser back with a few others, I'm concerned about offensive points.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wilburt on August 21, 2006, 03:26:05 PM
I see that Lincoln Univ. (PA.) has a new athletic director.  He's the former AD at North Carolina A & T.  Great choice...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Blazze19 on August 21, 2006, 07:31:35 PM
The defense has not only Moser and Westbrook but they have a good core of vetrans that played alot. Leinemann is a 4 year starter and Galloway is a solid d-lineman. James Jones is back at free safety and the other positions are going to be filled by some good athletes. Hopefully they all step up.

Offensively, the backfield is strong still with the strength mainly in the backfield/slot positions. Hopefully the receiving core can stay healthy. Same offense. A good arm doesn't mean a change just another weapon to add. Dustin's best asset was his ability to run. Curly can too. Its just something to watch more than talk about. More good hard nosed option football.



Lets go GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 22, 2006, 08:47:09 AM
wilburt:

Lincoln's new AD is an excellent choice as the Lions prepare to revive football, and adjust to athletic scholarships for all sports and the NCAA compliance that comes with monitoring and other issues.

This choice also frees up Track Coach Cyrus Jones to concentrate more on maintaining and building Lincoln's successful T&F program.

How are things going in Nashville in finding a replacement for Dr. Glover?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 22, 2006, 08:58:16 AM
Blazze19:

Thanks for the updates for Seagull football.  My daughter's a senior at Salisbury, but not intor sports, so I've followed the Gulls for the last few years.  The out of state tuition is "killing me", so I gotta root for my investment in Gull football  ;D while waitng for my alma mater to revive football.

Keep the updates coming on the Gulls.  I get to see them in New Jersey twice this season (Montclair State & St. Peters).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Blazze19 on August 22, 2006, 10:15:41 AM
Monclair should be a really good game. Two really aggressive teams. St. Peters is going to be something good to watch on the highlight reel.

Fell bad for you paying out of state tuition. Great University and good for your daughters education but horrible for the pocket. These schools rape parents these days.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 22, 2006, 05:49:31 PM
 NNAsid
   OK time to put you to work. I know you aren't DIII (officially) but what do you think of the ncaa putting Wesley FSU and SSU in the region 1? I don't think it hurts Wesley at all in N.J but it may effect SSu with regaurd to Mont Clair St and Kean And it could Wesleys non conference southern opponenets?

  Conrad
I know you are out there..  What do you think about this?     
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 22, 2006, 06:03:55 PM
Well with all the ways Wesley could go up north...I mean my goodness you can't go 10 miles without knocking into a D3 school ;D

Seriously it does seem to hurt you guys as your non-conference games are Waynesburg (region 2), Averett (Region 3), Seton Hill (Region 2), Huntingdon (Region 3), Chowan ("d2") Morrisville (Region 2).  So you only get your conference games as "regional" (other than us)

Salisbury on the other hand has W&J (2), CNU (3), Montclair (1), St. Peter's (1-AA), Widener (2) so they get an extra one with Montclair over you guys.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 22, 2006, 07:33:23 PM
Sid great to chat with ya again! Pat says south region games are still south sooo I am lost on this region thing!! But... I am getting to the age where I am lost a lot  LOL...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 22, 2006, 07:49:02 PM
You need a philly lawyer.....or a few shots.....to figure out these things at times.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on August 22, 2006, 08:56:24 PM
njlincolnlion,

I would like to meet you at the Montclair game. My daughter went to Wesley for a year and a half. Left after the fall semester in 2001. Graduated from MSU with a degree in Psyc and a minor in Soc 2005. Now a 1 year vet with the Circle Of Care as a Social Worker and ready for her Masters in Jan 07. I'll be at the Train Station Tailgating when Salisbury comes in. You are welcome for a burger, dog, and a beer !!!

LET'S  GO  MIGHTY  RED  HAWKS  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 23, 2006, 11:55:32 AM
rams1102:

Thanks for the invitation, and I'll take you up on the beer 'N burger  :) .  I'm planning on going to the game.  It'll be my first trip back to MSU since my alma mater lost to the Red Hawks in Baskeball at Panzer three years ago.  I sure you didn't miss that long drive from North Jersey to Dover after your daughter transferred.  My daughter who should graduate in December almost took a course at MSU over the summer.  She ended up taking the course at Baruch, since she had an internship at Time Warner.

It should be a great game between the Seagulls, and Red Hawks.  I hope the game day weather is great for both football and tailgating!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 23, 2006, 12:03:39 PM
Blazze19:

You are right with Salisbury being an excellent school, and the out-of-state tuition is a killer!  It looks like my daughter will graduate in December, and it can't come too soon  :) .  I was hit with with "out-of-state tuitionitis" twice since my oldest daughter graduated from UDel in 2002.  Both daughters were accepted to TCNJ, Butgers (New Brunswick) to name a few NJ schools, and they both opted to go out-of-state  ??? .

I'm heading down to the "Bury" Friday to drop her off back at University Village, after spending two years at the "Old Zoo", on South Division St.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on August 23, 2006, 12:47:14 PM
njlincolnlion,

See ya there in the train station lot. Black Durango.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 24, 2006, 12:04:59 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 22, 2006, 07:33:23 PM
Sid great to chat with ya again! Pat says south region games are still south sooo I am lost on this region thing!! But... I am getting to the age where I am lost a lot  LOL...

PA Wesleyfan,

I posted about the new administrative region thing on the SCAC board (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4753.1241).

Currently, Wesley can get "in-region" games by three of four methods.

The most common consideration in D3 is the Conference.  The ACFC is not an officially recognized conference (and never will be under current by-laws). 

South Region opponents--teams from the South Evaluation Region

Administrative Region 1 opponents -- schools in the state of Maine, NH, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Connecticut plus New Jersey, Delaware (of course) Maryland and the District of Columbia .

Finally, any school within a 200-mile radius, especially in Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 24, 2006, 04:50:43 PM
Thanks  Ralph.
I wasn't sure at first that Wesley kept the south region as well as the new region
BUT Now that my  baseball coaching duties are done. I can get into the SEASON at hand. And pay more attention to FOOTBALL
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AC24#724 on August 27, 2006, 05:40:17 PM
PA Wesley fan,
How does things look for next week's first game against Waynesburg?
II also noticed that W&J plays Salisbury which are in Wesley conference which doesn't happen much especially in same week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 28, 2006, 04:48:16 PM
AC
I won't be seeing Wesley play until the 9th against Averett. Waynesburg will probably have to withstand an early barrage from Wesley. It will be family day at Welsey and there will be a huge crowd.   Wesley will be quick again and they have a lot of skill people coming back. Marcus Lee is an outstanding talent and very hard to stop. And I see Alpha Korona at H back having a breakout season.  Chris Warrick at QB is a 4 yr starter and should end up breaking whatever records there are left.   The D is swarming and returns all american  FS Mario Harris and DE Bryan Robinson. Wesley rotated 7 or 8 linemen last year so they have a good bit of experience there too.
 

 

Quote from: AC24#724 on August 27, 2006, 05:40:17 PM
PA Wesley fan,
How does things look for next week's first game against Waynesburg?
II also noticed that W&J plays Salisbury which are in Wesley conference which doesn't happen much especially in same week.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AC24#724 on August 28, 2006, 08:19:07 PM
PA WESLEY FAN,
THANKS FOR THE REPLY.....THAT DOES SEEM REAL IMPRESSIVE, I THOUGHT I HAD READ THAT THEY HAD ONLY 11 STARTERS RETURNING???ALOT OF LETTERMAN THOUGH OUTSIDE OF STARTER'S.
IT APPEARS THE QB HAS HAD GREAT CAREER THERE WITH SOME IMPRESSIVE NUMBER'S. THE CROWD ALSO SHOULD HAVE THEM FIRED UP AS WELL.
THEIR WINS IN PLAYOFFS WERE IMPRESSIVE TOO. WONDER WHY COACH FROM WC WENT OUT OF CIONFERNCE TO PLAY WESLEY AT WESLEYI N FIRST GAME IS MAYBE A MYSTERY. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE FIELD TURF TOO??WHICH SHOULD MAKE FOR A FAST TRACK IN HOPES THE DAY IS SUNNY AND DRY.
I AM PLANNING A TRIP TO OCEAN CITY FOR HOLIDAY WEEKEND AND MAY STOP BY AN SEE GAME.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 28, 2006, 08:46:59 PM
AC

   When you score as many points as Wesley did last year alot of kids that wouldn't get any time played which can only help in the long run. And as far as only 11 starters returning you are right. Wesley rotates 2 or 3 kids at each position. So they have a good amount expereince .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AC24#724 on August 29, 2006, 07:55:15 AM
PA. WESLEY FAN

YOU HAVE A GOOD POINT THERE, ALL EXPERIENCE IS VALUABLE. WC RANKED 4TH IN CONFERENCE IN PRESEASON POLL IN PAC. WITH W&J PLAYING SALISBURY AT HOME THE OPPOSITE TWIST. CALLS ARE REAL  HARD TO COME BY AT CAMERON STADIUM, PROBABLY THE SAME AT WESLEY.

HOPE THE WEATHER STAYS RIGHT, ANY EARLY FORECAST FOR GAME DAY?
AC
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on August 29, 2006, 08:39:55 AM
 Pa Wesleyfan ---

I know you probably want an update on Wesley's scrimmage Friday night at George Mason.

Well, the lights went out twice in the 2nd half, stalling a the game a bit waiting for them to warm up, but the Wolverines prevailed 43-9. (Mason, a club team, counted it as a game.)

The offense did well, shaking the rust off. They still have a few things to brush up on (penalties) but here are my overall observations.......
QB:  Warrick is Warrick, no worries there. Schatz will back up again and play some receiver too.
WR:  Marcus Lee did not play, but should be ready for this week's opener. Mike Clarke picked up the slack catching a long TD pass and another 50+ yarder. He will fill the void left from Beavers and Gore departing.
TE:  Lanouette looked like he hasn't missed a beat, coming off the injury and the position change. Made a couple of big plays down the middle of the field and a athletic grab in the red zone to set up a score.
RB:  A position to be excited about, a lot of great young talent (2 or 3) here to push Koroma for the starting job. I don't know all there names yet, but they made several big plays, including a 80+ kickoff return.
OL:  Coming together, a couple of new starters but Bauer, Erdman and Sfumurri return.
I'll give you more on the defense later.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 29, 2006, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: AC24#724 on August 29, 2006, 07:55:15 AM
PA. WESLEY FAN

YOU HAVE A GOOD POINT THERE, ALL EXPERIENCE IS VALUABLE. WC RANKED 4TH IN CONFERENCE IN PRESEASON POLL IN PAC. WITH W&J PLAYING SALISBURY AT HOME THE OPPOSITE TWIST. CALLS ARE REAL  HARD TO COME BY AT CAMERON STADIUM, PROBABLY THE SAME AT WESLEY.

HOPE THE WEATHER STAYS RIGHT, ANY EARLY FORECAST FOR GAME DAY?
AC

Don't shout -- we can hear you just fine.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AC24#724 on August 29, 2006, 04:00:45 PM
Mr Coleman & All
Their is/was no intent to "shout out" when I used caps and to all that I offended, AC would be sorry. Just basic dialogue it was.
I did get message from someone else about this and he understood where I was coming from and really just told me about the heads up.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 29, 2006, 06:05:19 PM
AC
Weather for the game will not be known until they figure out where Ernesto is going. It is never pleasant at Wolverine stadium in the rain because it is always breezy to windy. And any coastal weather will push the rain into the home stands. But with the new turf it won't be like years past.
And AC believe me.... Wesley hasn't gotten to many homer calls in the past.

Conrad
What???? You don't know all there names yet? Tsk tsk. I guess you'll be studying up for the game ! I'll be listening to you. Trying to talk #17 into coming with us on the 9th.
  Good to here that the O has a few back up options in the back field. If Alpha keeps his head on straight he can be real good. I like his power and speed combo.  Lee ? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 30, 2006, 12:33:17 PM
There is a very good article about Salisbury football on the delmarvanow Daily Times website.  According to the article, Leroy Satchell's replacement, is just as stong as Satchell was, and faster.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Blazze19 on August 30, 2006, 02:45:32 PM
Good Article
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on August 30, 2006, 07:59:38 PM
Anyone interested in making some picks?

Here are the games involving the ACFC this weekend, including my picks:

Waynesburg 3
@
Wesley  41

NNA  31
@
North Carolina Weslyan 24

Salisbury 27
@
Washington & Jefferson  28

If we had enough interest I could possibly put this in the pick 'em page  in the general football area... I just like prognosticating
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bportrocks on August 30, 2006, 10:36:13 PM
Brockport should be a force this year.  All starters returning at both O and D lines, including 7seniors, everyone else but brian wise back on offense and really good young talent on defense to replace the seniors from last year.  Luke and the offense are gonna light up the scoreboards and the defense, anchored by the dominant d-line, will give opponents fits.  Dont be surprised to see the Eagles return to the playoffs this year after a two year lapse  ; 8)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 31, 2006, 07:31:10 AM
portgrad2004:

I have the following:

Waynesburg 7
Wesley 32

NNA 28
NC Wesleyan 10

Salisbury 30
Washington & Jefferson 28
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: tecmobowler on August 31, 2006, 11:21:48 AM
Any folks from Huntingdon planning on making the long trip north?  We'd be happy to cook you up some hot dogs and let you partake in a bomber shot toast in the parking lot.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Blazze19 on August 31, 2006, 12:53:49 PM
Salisbury 34
W&J 28

Wesley 45
Waynesburg 10

NNA 28
NC Wesleyan 7
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: tecmobowler on September 01, 2006, 12:31:46 PM
does huntingdon have fans on here?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 01, 2006, 01:53:37 PM
Quote from: tecmobowler on September 01, 2006, 12:31:46 PM
does huntingdon have fans on here?
I think I am the only one who posts on the football side and I usually post on the SCAC board since we play so many of those teams. I am sitting in Ithaca right now trying to figure out how to stay moderately dry tomorrow. Not much chance of that I guess. I drove by and checked out the stadium earlier. Hope if the wind gets going along the side of that hill, we don't get blown off those bleachers.  :) We should have a pretty decent crowd coming from what I hear. I just hope we can give you guys a good game in the mud.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: tecmobowler on September 01, 2006, 03:13:10 PM
Nice... if you get to the stadium early tomorrow, come to the Ithaca tailgate lot (right across from the field).  We'll be the guys in yellow First Down Club shirts... and will treat you to a dog and a bomber shot!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2006, 05:12:10 PM
Boy it's tough to predict scores this early but here goes.
  Wesley 34  Waynesburg 21 If its still raining and windy this game will could be  closer but Warrick throw as good as anyone in the wind. He knows what the ball is going to do and where his recievers can get.
  NNA 20 NC Weslyan 14 I see the Builders winning some games this year.
  W & J 27 SSU 20 W & J is a tough place to play and even worse in bad weather. If the weather stays east of Washington, Pa., Salisbury may pull one out here. 
Quote from: portgrad2004 on August 30, 2006, 07:59:38 PM
Anyone interested in making some picks?

Here are the games involving the ACFC this weekend, including my picks:

Waynesburg 3
@
Wesley  41

NNA  31
@
North Carolina Weslyan 24

Salisbury 27
@
Washington & Jefferson  28

If we had enough interest I could possibly put this in the pick 'em page  in the general football area... I just like prognosticating
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 01, 2006, 07:50:28 PM
Well we are playing on Saturday....they cancelled the HS game in Rocky Mount, so the Builders will take on NCWC at 1 pm

How's it looking up there PA_wes??

good luck all
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2006, 10:31:28 PM
Sid

  The storm shifted a little so Jersey is getting more right now. But we expect over 2 inches.  As storms go that's not bad but we had an awful lot of rain last week so they're say 2 inches may flood some creeks and back up the Delaware river. They moved all the H.S. games  up to early afternoon here. 

  Good luck to the Builders tomorrow. I won't get to Wesley til next week so I'll fill you in then. But my sourses (Conrad) tells me that there are a few youn g recievers and running backs who are opening eyes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 02, 2006, 01:41:11 PM
Wesley starting to pick up where they left off last year. D is playing well and Special teams set up another score.  Offence sounds good on second drive. after 1 wesley 14  waybesburg 0
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 02, 2006, 02:00:21 PM
Any updates on the other games in the ACFC?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 02, 2006, 02:13:55 PM
Wesley 20 Waynesburg 0  half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 02, 2006, 02:21:08 PM
wesley held Waynesburg to 63 yrd total in the half
-19 rushing
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Blazze19 on September 02, 2006, 02:22:03 PM
Halftime score

Salisbury 10
W&J 7
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Blazze19 on September 02, 2006, 02:26:44 PM
Starting 3rd Quarter
Salisbury 10
W&J 14
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Blazze19 on September 02, 2006, 02:35:21 PM
7:30 left in 3rd Quarter

Salisbury 17
W&J 14

GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Blazze19 on September 02, 2006, 02:59:16 PM
Start of 4th quarter

R. Shockley Long TD Run

Salisbury 26
W&J 14

Westbrook and Manley have Picks that led to scores


GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Blazze19 on September 02, 2006, 03:29:34 PM
SU gets the win
32-14
Good Job Gulls !!!

(I was off by 2 points wish we got the conversion)

side note......Salisbury handed W&J their first home opening lost since 1998.
Those guys do big things on the shore

Good job See ya next week
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 02, 2006, 08:12:02 PM
Builders block a punt with 1:10 left and return it for a 21-20 win at NCWC
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on September 02, 2006, 09:45:55 PM
Salisbury/W&J Game Recap:

http://www.salisbury.edu/athletics/football/2nd/06_w&jrecap.asp
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AUPepBand on September 02, 2006, 10:17:08 PM
Quote from: bportrocks on August 30, 2006, 10:36:13 PM
Brockport should be a force this year.  All starters returning at both O and D lines, including 7seniors, everyone else but brian wise back on offense and really good young talent on defense to replace the seniors from last year.  Luke and the offense are gonna light up the scoreboards and the defense, anchored by the dominant d-line, will give opponents fits.  Dont be surprised to see the Eagles return to the playoffs this year after a two year lapse  ; 8)

What's your take on the Alfred-Brockport scrimmage today? Did you make the trip? Have any idea of a final score? Thinking the scrimmage was at Brockport, I was at a "Band Camp" getting the pep band ready for next week's opener.

I did see a bit. AU's offense was moving the ball pretty well. When I got there, was told AU was up 14-0 but Brockport had fumbled a couple away in the red zone. While there, AU's Chris Reynolds nailed a 40-yard FG in the rain, then Brockport scored on a short pass with receiver breaking it down sideline...so it was like 17-6 when I left. From the band room overlooking Merrill Field, I did see the AU second string score a TD. That's about all I know.

But I'd like to hear a report from Brockport's perspective.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bportrocks on September 03, 2006, 02:54:47 AM
the scrimmage was a waste of time from my perspective.  The first team offense was using a rubber ball for most of their time and wasnt able to get the snaps off w/o fumbling.  The only times AU really scored were off of fumbles from the offense, other than that the defense was solid.  The second team did pretty well against AU's first team because while b-port sat the starters Alfred kept them in the whole first "half".  Both teams would have been better served taking the day off and staying dry.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 03, 2006, 12:04:41 PM
Wesley did live stats on their web site today. What a neat concept. Had a hard time today listening to two computers!!! Web cast (great job Conrad!!! the web cast did drop out a few times) and now wdel is doing live coverage. Good to here the players from the past doing color on these games.   
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Post by: AUPepBand on September 03, 2006, 05:31:32 PM
bportrocks:
Thanks for the report. I couldn't have told whether B'port's first or second team was on the field....haven't seen Brockport in a number of years. They used to be AU's opener years ago, before they built a solid program there. Best of luck for a great season! +k
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 04, 2006, 08:10:07 PM
Sid

  Sounds like you hand a nice nervy first game to watch.  Good week for the league!
Glad to see the Builders get that first win under their belt early.

  Conrad
Sounds like Wesley's D is already playing in mid season form.   
   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 05, 2006, 08:11:49 AM
That was, by far, the wildest finish I have seen in my six years with NNA.  I was glad to have been doing stats down there, as my story wouldve had to have been rewritten I am sure.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 05, 2006, 02:45:05 PM
nnasid:

Congratulations  on the Builders opening game win!
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Post by: njlincolnlion on September 05, 2006, 02:50:15 PM
Blazze19:

That was some "salvo" the Seagulls fired at the Presidents!  I thought It would have been a much closer game.  The offense seems liked it picked right up from last year with the rushing totals I saw.

All in all, it was a great week for the ACFC with Salisbury, Wesley, and NNA winning!

Now the Gulls must get ready for B-Port.


Let's Go Gulls !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 05, 2006, 03:04:02 PM
when the league goes 3-0 like that...its a great day.
Wesley carries the non-conf. banner for us this week while the other two games kick up conference action
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 05, 2006, 05:13:02 PM
congrats to brandon huntsbach of Wesley named to Team of the Week
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Blazze19 on September 06, 2006, 05:03:05 PM
njlincolnlion:

The team is not full of rookies like many people may think.
There are some solid vets there. Just had a bunch of seniors last year that were ahead of 'em.

The W&J game was just another day playing Salisbury Football on both sides. Nobody cares about last week, moving onto the home opening game versus B-Port. It'll be a good game like always.

GO GULLS!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FLA10 on September 07, 2006, 11:08:16 AM
Joining the party late boys....sorry.....  did anyone here see the Port - alfred scrimage?   How did it go?  Any scouting reports for this weekends game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AUPepBand on September 07, 2006, 11:33:06 AM
FLA10:
If you go back a page or two in the posts, you'll see some talk of the Brockport-AU scrimmage between AUPepBand and Bportrocks. 'Twas a brief 2-hour scrimmage in cold steady rain. I saw bits and pieces....was running a Band Camp at same time. Had a score been kept, I'd say it would have been something like 24-6 AU.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FLA10 on September 07, 2006, 07:14:02 PM
ouch...i dont like the sounds of that.  AU still have those two running backs?  I'll just say that I am recently retired from coaching in the E8 and planning to defend those two was a task.


Where are all the BPort alum???? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 08, 2006, 06:54:40 PM
How Do the games look this week?   

Here are my takes

Averett  7
@
Wesley 45

NNA 21
@
Frostburg State 24

P.S.  FLA10, where are you located?

Frostburg looks for some revenge this year...

Brockport 34
@
Salisbury  31

Don't want to pick against my alma mater! 

GO GOLDEN EAGLES!!!

P.S. FLA10 where in Florida (I am assuming florida from your name) are you located?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 08, 2006, 11:16:26 PM
wesley 41 averett 13

fsu 24  nna  20

salisbury 21 bport 17
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 09, 2006, 01:15:15 PM
Early in the 1st,

Brockport 7
Salisbury 0

2-yard pass to Bond.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 09, 2006, 01:33:05 PM
Salisbury misses a FG but Brockport roughs the kicker , ends up with a field goal 7-3 at the start of the 2nd, even though we didn't hear the field goal with the studio hosts trying to ask a trivia queston...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 09, 2006, 01:57:03 PM
Brockport 14
Salisbury 3

Another TD pass to bond
4:03 left in 2nd
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 09, 2006, 02:13:23 PM
Brockport leads 14-3 at halftime.  Salisbury got close at the end of the half but stalled and gave it up on downs. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 1sttmaak on September 09, 2006, 02:31:40 PM
LETS KEEP IT GOING B-PORT
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 09, 2006, 02:32:37 PM
Indeed, it sounds as if the defense is able to keep up with the option offense thusfar. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 09, 2006, 02:44:31 PM
Looks like Bond and Mahoney are hurt already here in the 2nd half...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 09, 2006, 02:47:22 PM
21-3  Brockport after a the defense breaks up an option and takes the ball for the touchdown.  I do not believe it is an interception as they state, rather a fumble recovery technically ...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 1sttmaak on September 09, 2006, 02:48:45 PM
Big D Touchdown for Brockport as Lucci takes the ball to the house, and Lanctot hits the XP for a 21-3 lead for the Golden Eagles.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 09, 2006, 02:52:18 PM
This defense is sounding a lot like the D of a few years ago, at least in this game!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 09, 2006, 03:28:12 PM
Brockport defeats Salisbury 21-3 in a game that took a crisp 2 hours and 25 minutes to play
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 09, 2006, 09:12:13 PM
portgrad2004:

Congratulations on a sound win over the Seagulls at Salisbury. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 09, 2006, 11:06:58 PM
Builders 20, Frostburg State 10
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 09, 2006, 11:49:39 PM
Very big Congrats to you NNASID!  2 straight against the bobcats!! 

Thanks for the congrats njlincolnlion, Salisbury just did not sound like even remotely the same team they have been in previous years...at least in meetings with the port.  Good Luck the rest of the season!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 10, 2006, 12:27:52 AM
  NNA sid congrats  to the Builders on their second victory.
I was a witness to Wesleys win today.  Averett played inspired. Wesley helped them along with penalties three different times on third downs that kept drives alive. Welsey did find a good running back in Frosh. Aaron Jackson who had over 150 yrds rushing.  He was hit in the backfield numerous times and broke tackles all afternoon. And once outside he has some moves and is fast. Wesley played with out Marcus Lee and Jon Lanouette two of their top receivers.
  Averett's QB Parsons had a nice day throwing. He hit his receivers more than a few times on third and long to keep the chains moving. It also appeasred that  Averett was without their punter. A lineman was punting and hit some short ones. Averett triple teamed Wesleys DE Robinson all day but he still rushed Parsons on a few occasions. Wesley didn't have a great day today but good teams find ways to overcome adversity and win.     
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2006, 12:36:32 AM
PA,

I would say we were down to a two team race in the conference already, but the performance of the builders makes me think it could be 3!

I am not saying Frostburg and Salisbury are out, but the losses already almost completely take them out of the running for a solo conference title already here in the Second week of September!

Can't wait for the Wesley/Port matchup.  Both teams are impressive early on.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 10, 2006, 12:43:29 AM
 Wesley plays at Salisbury this year and that's never easy. Plus the Gulls will be thinking about last years thumping so I sure they will be sky high for that game.
BPort is Wesley's home coming game this year so there will be a full house for that game.
But portgrad.... You can never look past your next opponent. Cause the one under your view has sharp teeth... LOL
   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 10, 2006, 12:53:31 AM
Definitely not looking past the next 4 games... @ cortland, always fun, @ Frostburg... the long trip who knows?, home vs. Ithaca, that game is always interesting and Ithaca looks like a powerhouse again, and then home vs. St. John Fisher...rivalry game that is always close.

Those 4 games are all tough...Brockport gets no breaks with their schedule, I can assure you!  We could be 1-4 by that point, I'm hoping for more like 4-1 or 5-0  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 10, 2006, 11:26:44 AM
portgrad
     that certainly is one tough schedule. wesley has afew bumps to overcome at Frostburg, Huntington and they have Seton Hill at home .The good thing aout playng good teams is that it makes you better and the Quality win index   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FLA10 on September 10, 2006, 12:36:37 PM
That it does.  what is it about playing down in frostburg??  Like the twilight zone.  Do they still blow that cannon when they score???  Hated that thing.


Great job "Port"..keep rolling!!!!!
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Post by: Hampton U SID on September 10, 2006, 03:57:45 PM
well...thanks for the congrats....that was an odd game...when you look at the stats you'd think we were on the other end of the score...but a blocked punt (2 in a row for Moultrie) this time returned to the house and an 11 yard punt gave us the first two scores...defense played great...bent but never broke

To answer your question FLA10...no cannon..I was wondering about that as well.

The field at Frostburg is awesome.  I walked out on it during warmups (to get starters like normal) and it is great.....much like Wesley's.

We still have Salisbury here...and then go to Wesley (wow we are not homecoming..that might be a first ;D ... and then Brockport in NOVEMBER.....brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Post by: Blazze19 on September 11, 2006, 09:38:12 AM
Congrats NNA on the win. The program is looking up

Hope the Seagulls can rebound and show and prove this week CNU hates SU enough from the beating they took in Virginia last year. Gotta show the home crowd that the team is still strong

Good Luck this week all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 11, 2006, 09:44:05 AM
nnsid:

Congratulations on the Builders going 2-0 so far.  It certainly appears that the ACFC may have acheived a level of parity.  The out of conference wins should serve notice that conference is on par with those "more storied" leagues.  Good luck the rest of the way except when you play the Gulls  ;D .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 11, 2006, 09:48:42 AM
Blazze19:

I agree with you that the CNU/Salisbury game will be a statement game for both programs, notwithstanding the disdain the Gulls and Captains have for each other.  I hope Coach Wood has the boys pump to get back in the win column, and remind them of the intial goals of conference title, and postseason play.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 11, 2006, 10:57:29 AM
NJLincolnlion
Looks like I maybe making the trek up rt. 13 this weekend to help out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 12, 2006, 04:47:52 PM
Lets go gulls, one game at a time- Brockport will beat a lot of good teams this year. SU is still a very good team, 14 points given up by the defense was a solid effort. 7 points from a fumble recovery off the option that was taken about 40 yards for a score made the final ugly. Don't forget Brockport put 40 on Wesley last year too. I think they (Brockport) came in this year somewhat under the radar.  They look very good with a stout tight end and running back. SU offense just never got in gear after half time. I think they will bounce back this week against a solid CNU team though. Good Luck Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FLA10 on September 13, 2006, 09:22:54 AM
Any "port" fans have a scouting report on C-State???? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 15, 2006, 01:25:33 PM
Reading some of the statements on the E8 board, it sounds like Cortland has a very good defense and is the real deal.  Some of them on the E8 board have Cortland winning by 4 touchdowns.  However, I think it will be a great game. 

Anyway, FLA, where are you located?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 15, 2006, 06:44:43 PM
This Weekend's Picks

Seton Hill 0
@
Wesley 67

One of these weekends, Wesley will face a challenge...I think...

Randolph-Macon  21
@
Frostburg State 19

Don't know what to really think about Frostburg yet.


Christopher Newport 14
@
Salisbury 16

Salisbury claws back this week for a win!

Brockport State 26
@
Cortland State 23

Can't pick against the port in this one...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2006, 08:04:59 PM

Wesley 38 Seton Hill 14 This will be Coach Drass 100th victory

Randolph Macon 31 Frostburg 17 I too wonder about FSU

Salisbury 28 CNU 21 Gulls should pull it out at home and keep the ACFC way ahead on head to head contests

Cortland St. 27 Bport St. 14 Cortland at home is a tough task for Bport
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 15, 2006, 10:39:11 PM
will be making the trek up Rte. 13 for the SU-CNU game......pulls at my strings some...with conference (SU) vs. alma mater (CNU).

Should be fun
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 16, 2006, 01:30:47 PM
Cortland 0
Brockport 0

End of First
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 16, 2006, 02:01:08 PM
wesley 28 seton hill 0
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 16, 2006, 02:03:49 PM
oops 35-0 Wesley is scoring from all over the field
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 16, 2006, 02:20:45 PM
Cortland leads 7-3 at Halftime.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 16, 2006, 02:30:19 PM
port sounds like a defesive battle
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 16, 2006, 02:31:11 PM
Definitely is.  Cortland's TD came after a fumble recovery at Brockport's 11. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 16, 2006, 02:34:32 PM
Brockport comes out in the 2nd half with an Onside Kick that they recover.    But the cortland defense is too good, force a 3rd and 22 ... Which they somehow converted on a draw play
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 16, 2006, 02:36:48 PM
wesley is dominating on defense
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 16, 2006, 02:46:19 PM
10-7 Brockport 9:06 left in the 3rd.  Salisbury is leading CNU 14-7 last I saw.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 16, 2006, 03:03:57 PM
Frostburg trails by 3 in the 3rd. 

10-9 Brockport early in the 4th after fumbling the ball into the endzone and falling on it for a safety. 

Cortland immediately scores on the ensuing drive to take the lead 17-10
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 16, 2006, 03:38:04 PM
Final:

Brockport 10
Cortland 17

Brockport stuffed on 4th and 1 from the 4 at the end of the game. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 17, 2006, 10:36:05 PM
NNasid
  Nice game you got to see.  Sounds like it was a good one.

  Looks as if the Wolverines aren't missing a beat. They started yet another Frosh at tailback. Imagine if they had Lee and Lanouette.  Nice to see Coach Drass get his 100th win. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 20, 2006, 09:45:19 AM
Another tough game for Salisbury, they are young and playing hard though. They will continue to get better as the season progresses. No excuses about the CNU game, CNU was better that day. However, some good news, I hear that Brooks Moser. a senior starting d-end in the preseason, is going to be back this game albeit with a limited amount of snaps to be played. He got hurt early and has not suited up yet this year.  The guys that played in his stead did a good job, just getting him back makes them better via the depth at the position. Hang Tough Gulls, Go Get One @ Montclair Saturday!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 20, 2006, 02:02:16 PM
SU Backer:

It's good to hear that Brooks is coming back.  As a freshman, Brooks roomed with my daughter's friend whose first name is Rivers.  The two freshman roomates thought someone in Housing had a obvious sense of humor.

I plan on going to the Montclair game this weekend to root on the Gulls.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 21, 2006, 01:04:42 PM
The NJAC Board is basically dead except fr the Rowan guys.

What is everyones thougts on the MSU-Salisury game. If MSU ever finds it's "O" look out, but who knows when we will find it. This should be a real good game. We have not been home for a long while. The yards we gave up against Springfield really killed our stat's. Everyone will be playing on the new field turf. Njlincolnlion, I'll see you at the train station. Your confernce has some real good teams. Should be a fun day.

LET'S  GO  MIGHTY  RED  HAWKS  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 21, 2006, 02:08:48 PM
Rams1102;
Obviously I would like to see Salisbury win, but with a young team you are never sure which team will show, the one that flat thumped W&J, or the team that didn't show well against Brockport. Montclair is served well by already playing a triple option team this year. I think it will come down to the 2 D's-desire and defense. I wish you guys good luck this year........except Saturday!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 21, 2006, 07:00:58 PM
SU Backer,

Good luck to you guys too. I want everyone to leave the field healthy. I will entertain njlincolnlion, and that should be fun' It will be interesting, which Montclair and which Salisbury team shows up. The key is to be consistant and one of the teams will leave with that chance. I hope it's us.  I'm trying to figure which board is quieter, yours or ours.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 21, 2006, 08:28:01 PM
I Know rams, I have escaped to the E8 board to find some life! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ODACfan1 on September 22, 2006, 10:13:42 AM
Can someone give me some information about listening to the Emory & Henry-Newport News game? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 22, 2006, 11:41:48 AM
Unfortunately we do not have a webcast/radio network.   I did notice EHC having a webcast link though I have not been made aware yet if they plan on coming to do the game on Sat.

Sorry ODACfan1
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FLA10 on September 22, 2006, 03:47:09 PM
not sure if i have ever seen a board this boring....where is everyone?  Dont you all have jobs where you can sit in front of the computer for a majority of the day :)   Where are all the Bport alum??  Probably will see more after a few more wins.  Portgrad did you play?  I played from 2000-2003.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 22, 2006, 06:04:38 PM
Come to the NJAC Board, not much better. Montclair - Salisbury is a pretty good game and not one comment except from me.  >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 22, 2006, 06:17:14 PM
Nope, Didn't play (not athletially inclined at all!), but followed the team since 2000, when I Was a Freshman at the port.  In my Senior year (2003, which as you say was your last year) I was the color guy on the radio Broadasts for the point...Is your number indicative of who you were on the team, then?

No, unfortunately I do have a job that sits me in front of a computer all day, but they monitor EVERYTHING...I've seen people booted for less than going on post patterns...seriously. 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2006, 11:34:34 AM
Good luck to all teams today! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2006, 01:26:06 PM
Brockport leads Frostburg 7-0 late in the first after a 5 yard TD run by lynch.  Brockport moving the ball at will early. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2006, 02:05:52 PM
Brockport still only leads 7-0 at the half.  Still seems like they are moving at will but a couple mistakes have hurt the golden Eagles. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2006, 02:22:19 PM
Any updates elsewhere?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2006, 03:13:28 PM
Montclair leads salisbury 20-3 late in the 4th.

E&H leads NNA 9-7 late in 4th

Brockport continues to lead 7-0
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2006, 03:40:39 PM
Brockport wins 22-0
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 23, 2006, 04:48:12 PM
Final Montclair - 27     Salisbury-3
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 23, 2006, 06:04:00 PM
Salisbury's Offense stayed in Maryland today  :o .  Aside from the opening series when the Gulls were marching and lost a fumble, the "O" was inept.  The last "O" series produced a few first downs, but the game was already over.

Stupid penalties didn't help matters today either.  The first half was a good game, but the Seagulls laid an eggin the second half giving up 20 points.  MSU controlled the third quarter.

I hope the Gulls can right the ship and get a win next week.  rams1103, again, thanks for the hospitality.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 24, 2006, 11:06:48 PM
NNAsid
 
Tough loss this week.

  I was hoping to get to both the NNA/Wesley and BPort/Wesley games but that's not going to happen.
  The Builders should give Salisbury a good challenge this week.
Next week I'l give you the scoop on your trip to Morrisville. I have lots of family up there. Originally from Canastota, a small canal town (Home of the International Boxing Hall fame) which is only 15 miles from Morrisville. 




 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 25, 2006, 11:09:27 AM
Thanks.....tough to win when you sputter as much as we did...looked good and then had trouble....

Now we have a Flock of Seagulls coming........who (to paraphrase the song) RUN RUN RUN (and I ran...I Ran so far away).

OK..bad 80s music pun....showing my age...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 27, 2006, 10:42:36 AM
Salisbury just not in sync yet. Kids are working hard and morale is pretty good for a team that has dropped 3 straight. They get a few guys back from injury this week and hopefully the offense can get going. The defense is hanging tough but with the O going 3 and out a lot, it wears the D out and that has been showing by giving up some points late in the game. The Montclair game was 7-3 at the half. Not sold on the new 3 man front, although the guys up front are playing their butts off, I still think that that it creates too many cutback lanes for the RB, and the backers are not filling quick enough. As far as the offense goes, I think the O  misses Brett and Jerrod on the line more than even the loss of Dustin Johnson at QB hurts them. As always good luck this weekend @ NNA and GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 27, 2006, 07:35:34 PM
Sure is quiet in here...

  Wesley has a big south match up this week at Huntingdon.

Wesley 38  Huntingdon 21 

  The only thing that has stopped Wesley's O was a bye week
 
   Brockport St has a big out of conference game with Ithaca

Brockport St. 24 Ithaca 20

    OOO could be a bit chilly off the lake this weekend. The Golden Eagles play a tough schedule

   And  NNA goes up against SSU in the only conference match up this week

NNA 20 SSU 17

    Like the Builders to get a big home win here.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bportrocks on September 29, 2006, 09:04:35 AM
Good luck this week to all the teams.  Brockports gonna do its best to try and shut up those mouthy E-8  guys and represent the ACFC
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 29, 2006, 02:25:06 PM
Any thoughts on what the future might hold for this conference? There are obviously some good teams top to bottom in it, but Brockport seems out of place geographically for this to be a good long term fit for them. Is Morrisville joining? What is the reason that this conference cannot get an auto bid, other than the amount of members? It obviously fits for SU and Wesley geographically and I guess even Frostburg and NNA are not real great distances apart, but that NNA to Brockport and Morrisville and vice/versa is a haul. What playoff bids are teams in this conference eligible for? I am fairly new so if these are dumb questions or the info is available elsewhere I am sorry for my lack of knowledge. Thanks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2006, 02:48:14 PM
SU Backer,

The change in NCAA by-laws governing single sport conferences has precluded the ACFC from ever attaining the AQ.

NNA is an NCAA approved Affiliate member.  Game and stats against NNA count as official, but  NNA does not count towards institutional requirements.

A conference needs 4 core members and then may add 3 affiliate members to achieve the 7 necessary for an AQ.

That process is happening with the E8 (5 full and 2 affiliates),  the Liberty League (4 and 3), then NJAC (5 and 3), the ODAC (6 and 1), the USAC (6 and 1), the MIAA (6 and 1) and the Northwest Conference (6 and 1 as by 2008).  I may have missed some and have not counted the movement in the IBFC/NAthCon/UMAC/SLIAC shuffle!

In that part of the country, some conference needs to adopt football as a sport (get 4 core members who are playing it) and find 3 affiliates to join you, and NNA is a game, but doesn't count towards the requirements.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 29, 2006, 04:45:37 PM
Thanks, Ralph
- looking forward to the drive to Newport News tomorrow, hope the drive back is better than last week's from NJ!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 29, 2006, 04:48:15 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2006, 02:48:14 PM
SU Backer,

The change in NCAA by-laws governing single sport conferences has precluded the ACFC from ever attaining the AQ.

NNA is an NCAA approved Affiliate member.  Game and stats against NNA count as official, but  NNA does not count towards institutional requirments.

A conference needs 4 core members and then may add 3 affiliate members to achieve the 7 necessary for an AQ.

That process is happening with the E8 (5 full and 2 affiliates),  the Liberty League (4 and 3), then NJAC (5 and 3), the ODAC (6 and 1), the USAC (6 and 1), the MIAA (6 and 1) and the Northwest Conference (6 and 1 as by 2008).  I may have missed some and have not counted the movement in the IBFC/NAthCon/UMAC/SLIAC shuffle!

In that part of the country, some conference needs to adopt football as a sport (get 4 core members who are playing it) and find 3 affiliates to join you, and NNA is a game, but doesn't count towards the requirements.

Sooooo Ralph....

 If Catholic hadn't left the Capitol Conference with Wesley joining and Galudet returning to competative football next year, The Capital Conference could have added three football only schools and received an A bid within the next few years????
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2006, 05:39:15 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 29, 2006, 04:48:15 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2006, 02:48:14 PM
SU Backer,

The change in NCAA by-laws governing single sport conferences has precluded the ACFC from ever attaining the AQ.

NNA is an NCAA approved Affiliate member.  Game and stats against NNA count as official, but  NNA does not count towards institutional requirments.

A conference needs 4 core members and as many affiliate full members to achieve the 7 necessary for an AQ.  Gallaudet then becomes a very important member of the conference as the 4th full football-playing member. 

That process is happening with the E8 (5 full and 2 affiliates),  the Liberty League (4 and 3), then NJAC (5 and 3), the ODAC (6 and 1), the USAC (6 and 1), the MIAA (6 and 1) and the Northwest Conference (6 and 1 as by 2008).  I may have missed some and have not counted the movement in the IBFC/NAthCon/UMAC/SLIAC shuffle!

In that part of the country, some conference needs to adopt football as a sport (get 4 core members who are playing it) and find 3 affiliates to join you, and NNA is a game, but doesn't count towards the requirements.

Sooooo Ralph....

 If Catholic hadn't left the Capitol Conference with Wesley joining and Galudet returning to competative football next year, The Capital Conference could have added three football only schools and received an A bid within the next few years????

Yes, sir!  After 2 years of a stable conference of at least 4 core members and as many as  3 full member affiliates.  ;)

The AQ is just too powerful of an incentive to an athletic program and a conference!  You win your league; you make the playoffs!  I am extremely grateful to the powers that be in the NCAA for their emphasis on strong conferences and the AQ system.  I think that it makes for a better college expereince for the student-athlete.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2006, 06:34:26 PM
There wasn't much likelihood that Catholic and Wesley would have been in the CAC at the same time. Catholic and Goucher did not want to be associated with Wesley (or Villa Julie) on a conference level.

Villa Julie may add football. First heard that about a year ago, waiting on the formal announcement.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2006, 08:16:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2006, 06:34:26 PM
There wasn't much likelihood that Catholic and Wesley would have been in the CAC at the same time. Catholic and Goucher did not want to be associated with Wesley (or Villa Julie) on a conference level.

Villa Julie may add football. First heard that about a year ago, waiting on the formal announcement.

Okay... Starting 2007-08,  The Capital Athletic Conference could have four football playing members:

1) Salisbury -- Current
2) Gallaudet -- Adding Varsity in 2007.
3) Wesley -- Current
4) Villa Julie -- Possibly adding?

Now where could you find three more affiliates?  Frostburg State?  Logical!  Brockport State?  If they don't get invited to the NJAC.  SUNY Maritime?

Now, each of these is a "real" reach, I realize, but this is what it would take.  How you would schedule NNA could be handled in the by-laws.

Were these seven teams to play together thru the 2007 and 2008 seasons, then the Capital AC could have an AQ by 2009.

One other thought about having this particular football-sponsoring conference here is what impact it might have on other institutions in the Mid-Atlantic.  With the Capital available to add affiliates, might not other schools like a PSU-Berks or a PSU-Harrisburg (2007 provisional) or a Pennsylvania AC member consider football and joining as an affiliate?  The conference would provide games for new programs.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 29, 2006, 09:59:10 PM
As far as I know, none of the Penn St.  satalite school have football
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 29, 2006, 10:03:00 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2006, 06:34:26 PM
There wasn't much likelihood that Catholic and Wesley would have been in the CAC at the same time. Catholic and Goucher did not want to be associated with Wesley (or Villa Julie) on a conference level.

Villa Julie may add football. First heard that about a year ago, waiting on the formal announcement.

  And that Pat is why DIII is what it is. And why teams that are within 2 hrs of each other don't play.... And yet Catholic played Wesley in baseball
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2006, 11:23:48 PM
Let's see -- in football most schools have three or four games to schedule. In baseball it's more like 28. Hmm ... perhaps the two sports aren't comparable.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2006, 12:26:22 AM
hmm we aren't exactly talking about football in the Capitol conference are we?? Ya I am cranky tonight...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2006, 12:28:37 AM
Conrad

  Are Lano and Lee back yet??

  I expect you will be calling a shoot out Saturday..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 30, 2006, 12:41:38 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2006, 12:26:22 AM
hmm we aren't exactly talking about football in the Capitol conference are we??


I guess not if you're using Wesley baseball as an example of ... uhh ... you know, I have no idea what. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2006, 01:38:23 PM
  Just wondering why there is no way Catholic would stay in a conference Wesley would be in.  And my baseball comparison was just that.  The can play them in baseball but not football? You make it sound as if Wesley isn't fit to be in the same hemisphere as Catholic
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2006, 06:34:26 PM
There wasn't much likelihood that Catholic and Wesley would have been in the CAC at the same time. Catholic and Goucher did not want to be associated with Wesley (or Villa Julie) on a conference level.

Villa Julie may add football. First heard that about a year ago, waiting on the formal announcement.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 30, 2006, 02:30:00 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2006, 01:38:23 PM
  Just wondering why there is no way Catholic would stay in a conference Wesley would be in.  And my baseball comparison was just that.  The can play them in baseball but not football? You make it sound as if Wesley isn't fit to be in the same hemisphere as Catholic
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2006, 06:34:26 PM
There wasn't much likelihood that Catholic and Wesley would have been in the CAC at the same time. Catholic and Goucher did not want to be associated with Wesley (or Villa Julie) on a conference level.

Villa Julie may add football. First heard that about a year ago, waiting on the formal announcement.

PA Wesleyan, Let me step in here and give an outside assessment of what might be occurring in the Catholic/Capital AC issue.

We have seen this all over the country.  Schools want to be seen with their "peers".

A great place to start looking at the groupings is to look at 2 documents:

USNews College Guide (http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/rankindex_brief.php)

Thomson/Peterson's College Guide (http://www.petersons.com/ugchannel/code/searches/srchCrit1.asp?path=ug.fas.college) for some demographics and campus facts.

A third document will give some information about the endowments, which is another way that schools can look at who might be peers.

National Association of College and University Business Officers (http://www.nacubo.org/documents/research/FY05NESInstitutionsbyTotalAssets.pdf)

You can also disnguish yourself with a Phi Beta Kappa Chapter (http://staging.pbk.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Chapter_Directory&Template=/custom/chapterdir.cfm).


If you look in the USNews link, you see

1)  National Universities
2)  National Liberal Arts Colleges
3)  Master's Universities (by Regions)
4)  Comprehensive Colleges (by Regions)

Wesley is #24 of 35 Northern Comprehensive Colleges.  (VJC is #16.)  Catholic is #120 of 126 Top National Universities, including a majority of D1's.  There are real criteria by which the Catholic Board and the Administration can identify their peers.  I can see the distinctions that one could make.  Catholic did not see St Mary's of Maryland as an academic peer, even St Mary's is a top tier Comprhenensive College.

The ASC has 15 members, of which 12 are listed in the Top Tier of the Master's Universities or Comprehensive Colleges.  Still Austin College is listed as tied at #74 in National Liberal Arts Colleges.  Austin College was a charter member of the ASC.  They saw their peers as being in the SCAC where one sees these SCAC members:

26) Colorado College
T34) U South
44)  Centre
T45)  Rhodes
T48) DePauw
T57) Southwestern
T69) Hendrix
T74) B-SC
T74) Austin College
T82) Millsaps

Trinity TX is #1 among Western Region Master's Universities.  Only Oglethorpe University is not listed in the top tiers.  If one has a question of where one's alma mater's peers are located, then you can look at those documents.  More than likely, your alma mater is already in the Conference where it wants to be.  If it is looking to move up, they are probably known to be looking.

Like the Landmark Conference, those schools Catholic, Goucher, et al. saw a way to improve their neighborhood and acted with the shuffling that is occurring.  I expect more to occur as well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2006, 02:38:07 PM
wesley 14 huntingdon 0 13 min. to half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2006, 02:44:27 PM
Ralph

I understand all that. But sometimes certain people don't understand that Catholic is actually a DI school academics with D III athletics.

  That and I like to prod pcole once in a while  ;D


 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2006, 02:59:21 PM
Welsey D holds Huntingdon to 3 after a first and goal inside the 1. Wesley giving up some yrds in the air but none on the ground. Wesley 21  Huntingdon 3
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 30, 2006, 03:56:02 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2006, 02:44:27 PM
Ralph

I understand all that. But sometimes certain people don't understand that Catholic is actually a DI school academics with D III athletics.

  That and I like to prod pcole once in a while  ;D 

I believe that Catholic was the most recent D1 to move up to D3 prior to Birmingham Southern.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 30, 2006, 05:20:17 PM
salisbury 25, nna 0
ithaca 26, brockport 7
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2006, 07:28:25 PM
Sid wha happnd?? I thought the builders would give it ti SSu
  Wesley won 38-17 over 1100yrds O. for both teams . Huntingdon ran 88 plays geeeh.. Pass and stop the clock  lol
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 30, 2006, 07:33:38 PM
three turnovers...two interceptions....two snaps over punters head.....wasnt pretty.
we had 55 plays...for 55 yards

sounds like an ol' fashioned gunslinger show in Huntingdon
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2006, 07:39:25 PM
 Wesley did score quick a few times and the D was on the field a lot. They have the stats on Huntingdon's page. Did you have rain down in NN today sid?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 30, 2006, 07:57:06 PM
My hat's off to Wesley as the obviously better team won today. I could go into how HC had two trips in to the red zone that netted zero points and at least five or six dropped passes that could have helped but there's also the fact that in the 4th Wesley had two trips into the red zone that only netted 3 points. So it could have been much closer and it could have been much worse. I am proud of our guys for keeping on fighting all the way to the end. Good luck to Wesley on the rest of your season. Now I guess we pretty much have to win out to get a shot at that playoff slot.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 30, 2006, 08:17:47 PM
gorgeous day....had rain Thursday night here.....but beautiful most of yesterday and all of today

just got the game file on wesley....wow.....going to go on that limb and say I'll bet a lot of the awards next week will be in blue and white
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 02, 2006, 11:31:09 AM
nnsid:

It was good to see the Gulls back in the win column, unfortunately at the Builders expense.  As much as it pains me, it looks like the Wolverines are going to steamroll through the conference.  I hope Brockport and/or Salisbury can make them "sweat to "toughen them up for the post season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 02, 2006, 03:48:30 PM
Good Job Gulls!, back in the win column with a bye this week and some time to get everyone healthy. Defense was obviously very good, total domination especially up front,  but the offense needs to start putting up some numbers. Still too many 3 and outs, but they were as good as they have been since the W&J game. If that (W&J game) offense shows back up I think that SU can play with anyone on their schedule-with Wesley admittedly a push. Don't get caught looking ahead though- Morrisville looks like they are a capable team with a win this past weekend. Get some rest, get everybody healthy and come out strong at Homecoming against Morrisville!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 04, 2006, 10:29:52 PM
NNA sid

   Man I hope it doesn't snow in central N.Y this weekend. Yep it can do that in Oct.
Plan your nap while you're on the Pennsy Turnpike. It's a long boring two hrs. Good luck in Morrisville.  NNA 24 Morrisville 14

   Wesley passed a nice little test last week. But I am sure the Wolverines will be ready for a tough conference game in Frostburg. Weather may be nasty Saturday but still have to give the big edge to Wesley. Wesley 38  Frostburg st. 17

   Brockport St. WOW another tough game.. Got to give it to them they play anybody and everybody. So here's some props. Brockport St. 27 SJ Fisher 24


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 04, 2006, 11:59:41 PM
PA,

Thanks for the props, that may be an unbelieveably optimistic prediction!  Yes murderer's row continues... Still Springfield and Wesley to come the weeks following Fisher. 

At one point, this type of scheduling got us into the playoffs, However lately the team hasn't been able to win the games like they had in the past. 

As for Snow in October...that doesn't happen often, but maybe NNA will get lucky.  I don't know too much about Morrisville, just that they seem to be playing a lot of the ACFC schools....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 05, 2006, 08:10:57 AM
Morrisville starts their ACFC swing with us and then our version of Murders Row
Salisbury away, BYE, Brockport away, BYE, Wesley away WOW

Their lone win has been against Maritime (who we have for our Trades Day and Mariners Bowl game --- those who build ships vs. those who drive ships)


I will not be making the swing to MOrrisville.  Can do more things staying in town this weekend (like 90% of basketball programs) so I am going to take advantage of it.
I'm sure I will be making the colder  trek come November and our trip to Brockport
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: John McGraw on October 05, 2006, 03:55:53 PM
Temperature highs today in upstate New York coming in around 55. Highs for this weekend project to maybe reach the 60s with possible rain.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 05, 2006, 07:58:24 PM
Thanks John LOL
  I am from that neck of the woods (central N.Y) , and I made the mistake once of making the trip in late Oct. and we hit snow in Cortland. But I must admit other than driving in it I miss it ..
Quote from: John McGraw on October 05, 2006, 03:55:53 PM
Temperature highs today in upstate New York coming in around 55. Highs for this weekend project to maybe reach the 60s with possible rain.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 05, 2006, 08:08:55 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 05, 2006, 08:10:57 AM
Morrisville starts their ACFC swing with us and then our version of Murders Row
Salisbury away, BYE, Brockport away, BYE, Wesley away WOW

Their lone win has been against Maritime (who we have for our Trades Day and Mariners Bowl game --- those who build ships vs. those who drive ships)


I will not be making the swing to MOrrisville.  Can do more things staying in town this weekend (like 90% of basketball programs) so I am going to take advantage of it.
I'm sure I will be making the colder  trek come November and our trip to Brockport

Well I guess you have to give them credit for playing such a tough schedule the first year.  At least they've gotten their first win under the belts already...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 06, 2006, 08:59:23 AM
no question there......who knows maybe they'll be in the conference soon.  Would be good to have an even number of teams
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 07, 2006, 04:55:41 PM
well thankfully Morrisville didnt get win #2 today
21-13 NNA
2 blocked kicks (one PAT, one FG in fourth) and holding Morrisville on downs with 39 seconds left on our 44...

Wesley 32-7 over Frostburg State
St. John Fisher 27-20 over Brockport

well PA Wesley.....glad you guys pulled it out...I did hear Warrick had maybe 90 yards passing...which means he'll be out for blood Saturday (GULP)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 07, 2006, 08:05:58 PM
Sid
  I am afraid you may be right... Wesley turned the ball over a few times uncharacteristically..
The announcers stated that a few passes were dropped.  One I heard was the reciever was all alone behind the D and dropped it. I don't know if Clark played today. There were two or three freshmen playing wideout.
Sounds like the D had a day again

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 07, 2006, 08:30:27 PM
I got the stat file...lemme take a look

Michael clarke 2 rec-14 yds
7 guys caught the 9 passes
schatz 2-17 and clarke were the leaders

jackson 18c-144 yds
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2006, 10:32:51 PM
nnasid been meaning to tell you this a while back. Congrats to your builders on having a productive season so far. I really respect what those guys do to play college football. I couldn't imagine going to work, then practice, and then playing against fresh legs week in and week out.


Good luck to you guys on the rest of your season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 09, 2006, 08:35:00 AM
thanks CNUfinest....now we face #5 Wesley....oh my
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 13, 2006, 11:32:59 AM
Let's go Gulls.  A week off to heal and Homecoming/Family Day. It's time for Salisbury to return to the team that beat W&J in week one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 13, 2006, 12:11:35 PM
NJLInc......look out...that line is HUGE......they go 303 per man on the O-Line and 275 on the D-Line.....I like your guys chances if they show the offense they did on us.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 13, 2006, 04:50:04 PM
  Tough news from last weeks game about Sfamurri, Dislocation in ankle and three broken bones in the leg... Hope his surgery went well.
  Also sounds like Lee won't be playing any time soon. According to published reports he has been suspended for team infractions..
 
  Sid

  Looks like you may be in for one of Dovers wind tunnel games tomorrow.. BRRRR!!!
Sat through a few games like that. Keep your feeet warm LOL.


Wesley 34 NNA 10     I think the Wolverines have to much speed and fire power for the Builders.

Salisbury 31 Morrisville 14 Likewise with Salisbury.

Springfield 31 Brockport 14 The Golden Eagles have one of the toughest schedules
in football!!

  Thomas More 24 Frostburg 7  The Bobcats  just can't seem to get any points
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 13, 2006, 07:24:50 PM
We just got here....and yeah i can see where it might be a windfest.

Luckily I am in the press box tomorrow....so that wont be bad.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 13, 2006, 10:44:59 PM
Sid

  That press box is filled with people these days. So that should warm you up with all those Wesley people around you !!!! I'll have the game on both computers listening to J. Bowen on line and also the online radio feed. So if I here anyone cheering for NNA I will know who it is.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 14, 2006, 12:22:11 AM
Doubt it. nnasid is a professional and knows that there's no cheering in the press box.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 14, 2006, 08:24:13 AM
very true.....i do know the art of cheering though...in between my ears :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 14, 2006, 01:11:10 PM
Halftime:

Springfield 6
Brockport 3
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 14, 2006, 01:36:16 PM
Well geesh I thought Dr Miller would have you in the cheering side of the box.... SID
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 14, 2006, 03:00:09 PM
warrick has four td's to four different receivers
34-7 with 125 left in third

weve shown flashes of goodness...47 yard pass to travis reid.....

springfield 27-3 over bport
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 14, 2006, 04:26:09 PM
final 41-7......wesley.....wow
PA...you guys looked very good.....harris got helped off after getting caught in a pileup....but looked ok after the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 14, 2006, 06:17:42 PM
Final Salisbury 65 SUNY Morrisville 7
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 18, 2006, 11:33:47 AM
good luck salisbury thursday night
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 18, 2006, 04:35:05 PM
Echoing that "Good Luck Salisbury" from nnasid! Then over a week to prepare for Wesley-hopefully SU can give them a better game this year than last. At least we are at home this year. You were right about Morrisville, they were huge. That team is going to be tough to contend with down the road, as their roster is all underclassmen. Good luck to all the ACFC teams this week and may everyone come home safe and healthy.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 19, 2006, 06:39:46 PM
Salisbury vs.  St. Peter's  coming up shortly.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 19, 2006, 07:15:42 PM
8:30 left in 1st:  Salisbury 7, St. Peter's 0.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 19, 2006, 07:26:17 PM
Just under 3 minutes to go in 1st:  St. Peter's 7, Salisbury 7.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 19, 2006, 07:37:45 PM
Salisbury 13, St. Peter's 7. Approx. 11 min. left in Qrtr 2. (botched extra point attempt.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 19, 2006, 07:53:11 PM
St. Peter's 14, Salisbury 13, approx. halfway thru 2nd.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 19, 2006, 08:06:36 PM
St. Peter's 20, Salisbury 15.  :o ??? (St. Peter's scored a TD, EPA was blocked and returned the other way for 2 points).

It's at the half.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on October 19, 2006, 08:13:42 PM
You guys need to come back!  We need you having as good a record as possible when we beat you in the RC Game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 19, 2006, 08:44:02 PM
7:03 left in 3rd:  Salisbury now ahead, 23-20. (TD, 2-pt conversion).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 19, 2006, 08:59:36 PM
End of 3rd:  St. Peter's 26, Salisbury 23. Both teams exchanging turnovers left and right.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 19, 2006, 09:38:29 PM
St. Peter's 26, Salisbury 23. Final. (Salisbury's turnovers proved to be that team's undoing tonight.) St. Peter's finally gets off the schneid.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 19, 2006, 09:53:55 PM
Wow the ACFC is pretty down this year to say the least......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2006, 12:14:56 AM
 Headed to Wesley/BPort game this weekend. Should be a good one.. Will be like a playoff atmosphere with the Wolverines looking to avenge last years big loss in N.Y.
And it is home coming. Will be a standing room only crowd. I'll give you a report late Saturday nite.
  Wesley 27 BPort 17

  Sid looks like the Builders should bounce back this week.
  NNA 24 Maritime 21

  Frostburg 21 Union 17

  Here's my sure bet of the week
St, Peters 26 Salisbury 23
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 20, 2006, 06:39:23 AM
way to go out on that limb with Salisbury pick PA..... ;D

If you looked at ATN...you'll see the conference get a little mention...about our game with Maritime and the Mariner's Trophy.   Go to my website and you can see the pic of the trophy....gobuilders.com
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Post by: rams1102 on October 20, 2006, 01:17:44 PM
njlincolnlion,

What a difference a week makes. What happened to you guys? Were you at the game?

Should be a good one at Montclair this Sat. If you are free, stop on by.
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Post by: Hampton U SID on October 21, 2006, 03:52:08 PM
wesley 48-17 over brockport
nna 41-0 over maritime
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Post by: pg04 on October 21, 2006, 04:35:37 PM
Looks like Brockport has thrown in the towel this year...they can't get anything going on offense and the defense has reverted as the season has gone on.. 

Wesley continues to be unchallenged and probably will be so until the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 21, 2006, 04:57:14 PM
brockport has played a KILLER schedule with five ranked teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 21, 2006, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 21, 2006, 04:57:14 PM
brockport has played a KILLER schedule with five ranked teams.

I do agree with that, of course, NNA Sid, but I was hoping they could beat at least 2 of those teams.  The killer part of the schedule is now over, so we'll see if they can scrape together some wins. 

NNA, nice win for the builders today. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 21, 2006, 06:18:34 PM
a couple ranked opponents...yes...but five like that....its just gotta wear on you.
You guys get Morrisville next.....I tend to like your chances greatly of getting a little momentum back on your side.....GREAT....just what we needed...you guys with momentum ;D

I'm just prayin for a good weather day in two weeks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 21, 2006, 06:28:59 PM
Who knows what weather you'll get, ...hopefully nothing like the snowstorm last week!
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Post by: Hampton U SID on October 21, 2006, 06:38:04 PM
amen there....as I may fly up....l'm packing an extra outfit or two...just in case...:)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 21, 2006, 09:41:03 PM
rams1103:

I couldn't make it to the Salisbury/St. Peters game due to some last minute changes on the job.  The Gulls are very inconsistent this year, and coupled with the fact that Coach Wood missed the game due to heart palpitations and remained in Salisbury.  I'm not making any excuses, and even with Coach Wood there, the outcome may have been the same. 

The Red Hawks seems to be more consistent this year and are doing well in the tough NJAC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 21, 2006, 09:48:43 PM
rams1102:

I should have checked the scores before posting.  Cortland State looked like they did a number on the Red Hawks.  Is Cortland State that good? , or did the Red Hawks just have a down game?

If there is a "silver lining", at least you guys have a winning percentage, unlike the Seagulls.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 21, 2006, 10:41:08 PM
Sid
Congrats on the big win.
BPort
Wesley was very dominant today, But Bports kids played hard all the way.

Wesley's first team D gave up only about 140 yrds total. The D had a lot of first hits on the RB in the backfield. The second and third tean D played the fourth quarter and gave up a few pts, but it was good experience for then to get some real time ob the field.. 

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Post by: SU Backer on October 24, 2006, 09:45:44 AM
Made the trip to "beautiful" Jersey City NJ for the SU-St. Peter's game. 7 SU fumbles w/6 recovered by St. Peter's was the only stat you need to understand  what happened. Previous comment about turnovers both ways(?) - I only saw St. Peter's lose 1 turnover to SU. The SU defense held SP scoreless in the 2nd half- without Westbrook who twisted his ankle on what was going to be an obvious return for a TD. SU QB fumble that was returned for a TD by SP was the winning score of the game. Looked like SU could run at will, but continued to try to throw the ball. The offense just simply does not adjust to what they can do on a particular gameday, can't blame the kids for that. It seemed because they had success in their last game throwing, they were bound and determined to do the same Thursday night. On defense only rushing 3 (just) about all season? Anytime they bring 4 they get pressure on the QB or a sack-tough to get at the QB when you have  5 and sometimes 6 blocking 3. Pressure would obviously make the DB's job easier.  Anyway, enough of me venting my frustration about this year's season, Wesley this Saturday @ SU- GOOD LUCK GULLS! and may all the players come out safe and healthy.
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Post by: CNULifer on October 26, 2006, 06:17:50 AM
OK Seagulls,

Get up for this one and go kill those wesley guys.  No turnovers. just a thurough sp? butt kicking. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 26, 2006, 07:45:26 PM
CNUlifer
Sorry  but that is not likely to happen. And if the weather is bad it will be even less likely. Wesley is giving up about 25 yrds per game on the ground and has held two good  tailbacks in check.

Sid
Good luck this weekend. Hope the Builders get that record win under their belt.   

  Wesley 35  Salisbury 13  Wolverines are too much for Gulls. And Wesley has alot to play for.

    NNA 27 So. Va 20  Builders have a chance to win 6 or 7 games and that would be good.

     Brockport St. 41 Morrisville 14  The Mustangs not getting any love from the ACFC

     Frostburg St. 24 Westminster 13 The Bobcats playing good D but need some O
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 26, 2006, 07:53:25 PM
We were 5-5 in Janaro's first year.....we had a four-year span in the early 90s under Hoffmann of 5-4/6-3/6-2-1/5-3-1 from 91-94.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 26, 2006, 10:31:20 PM
that was pre- Pa_Wesley fan Sid... So good luck anyways!!!! 7 would be nice aye?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 27, 2006, 09:00:03 AM
oh true....just being informative.....comes with the job I guess   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 27, 2006, 11:08:44 AM
Hopefully the weather will help Salisbury's rushing game, and limit Wesley's passing attack.  I agree with SU Backer, that the Gulls must eliminate the costly turnovers!

Here's to the Seagulls shocking the world with the revenge factor on their side.  The pressure is all on the Wolverines, so hopefully Salisbury will play "loose" and error free football.

GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 27, 2006, 07:30:51 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on October 27, 2006, 11:08:44 AM
Hopefully the weather will help Salisbury's rushing game, and limit Wesley's passing attack.  I agree with SU Backer, that the Gulls must eliminate the costly turnovers!

Here's to the Seagulls shocking the world with the revenge factor on their side.  The pressure is all on the Wolverines, so hopefully Salisbury will play "loose" and error free football.

GO GULLS!

  NJ
Wesley is averaging about 190yrds per game rushing and had 350 + against Bport last week. And they are yeilding a paltry 50 yrds  rushing against.  So I think Wesley would be willing to go it on the ground . But all that being said Mom Nature may cause some crazy things.

  NNA sid

  I know how you SIDs think!!!! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 28, 2006, 10:21:01 AM
Guilty as charged ;D

Good luck all......safe games for everyone.

Momma Nature has dumped 2 inches around Newport News......now Momma Nature...please dont dump inches next week....WHITE INCHES....... :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 28, 2006, 12:52:11 PM
Inches? HOW ABOUT FEET! HAHAHAHAHAHA.  However, on that field neither team would want that type of slop...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 28, 2006, 02:10:16 PM
Brockport 7
Morrisville 0

Halftime

The Golden Eagles are just simply a mess this year.  I wish there were other posters to represent Brockport who have gone to the games and can describe what is going on, though.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 28, 2006, 02:14:35 PM
NNA 19-0 at half

Update from Salisbury  7-7 at half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 28, 2006, 03:40:53 PM
still 7-7 at salisbury
32-0 builders over SVU...first back-to-back shutouts since 1961
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on October 28, 2006, 04:22:51 PM
2006 ACFC CHAMPIONS
WESLEY WOLVERINES
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 28, 2006, 04:31:39 PM
portgrad....did it rain up there?  heard it was a mudbath?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 28, 2006, 05:33:49 PM
Yes they had quite a bit of precipitation from what I know...At one point the announcers said that the slop was so bad they couldn't see where the endzone was. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 28, 2006, 05:39:43 PM
on knees praying...no snow..no snow...no snow
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 28, 2006, 08:22:24 PM
PA-Wesleyfan:

Congratulations on your win over the Gulls.  We made you guys sweat and earn this 13-10 win.  Good luck the rest of the way and represent the ACFC well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 28, 2006, 08:38:27 PM
NJ
  I missed the whole game on the radio.. Sounds like a it was a great game.
  My dad got married and my sis was in an accident on the way to reception so I had no clue. We have 35 to 50 mph winds here in SE PA and I heard New England had a few maybe 90 mph so I bet it was bad up in NY too. Alot of HS and College fields got wrecked this week

Sid 

   Shhhhhhhhhsh don't let the snow gods here ya geeesh..  You could be snowed in for days LOL..   Congrats on the big win..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 28, 2006, 08:43:13 PM
Congrats to Wesley on the victory today.  I was glad to see the Gulls made a good game out of it this year.  I said this last year and it came true.  I will say it again this year after what I saw today.  Wesley has a very good team when conditions are good.  Today the wind was very strong and the field was soft, as a result Wesley struggled.  To go all the way in the playoffs, Wesley will have to play in some very bad weather.  Last year they ran into some bad weather in Wisconsin and lost.  With that being said, I am pulling for Wesley to go deep into the playoffs again this year and represent the ACFC well.
On to the Regents Cup (after Widener), and hopefully a victory over FSU.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 28, 2006, 08:56:50 PM
a 22 yard field goal with five seconds left....wow...sounds like a heck of a game in Gull-land.

thanks Pa.....Im packing a couple extra outfits Just In Case
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 29, 2006, 05:44:22 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 28, 2006, 08:56:50 PM
a 22 yard field goal with five seconds left....wow...sounds like a heck of a game in Gull-land.

thanks Pa.....Im packing a couple extra outfits Just In Case

No matter what, it's going to be sloppy, I can assure you of that.  The way Brockport has been playing, and the way NNA has been playing, this game is going to be a good one!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 29, 2006, 06:00:14 PM
now port....I can imagine you looked at the line you faced ysterday and thought you saw a mirror image of yourselves.  Looked at the 2-deep for you and you're as big as Morrisville.

I'm just praying now for good travel for us.  2 years ago it was the trip from...... to get to you.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 29, 2006, 06:03:12 PM
I wish we would have played you 1 year earlier! I could have met you, I broadcasted for the eagles that year and it would have been a pleasure, I'm sure.


I hope the trip goes well, its definitely a long one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 29, 2006, 06:18:44 PM
the guys who did the game last year here were probably the best ones I have heard do a game from us.  Im sure you were just like them.

I'm going to try to at least work the update machine from the game on Saturday.  Last year they had me on at halftime.

I told their SID that I would help spotting for us if needed. 
when you get a call at halftime of your game from the SID for next week saying you better pack extra uniforms...you know it must be bad up there.... :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 29, 2006, 06:20:40 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 29, 2006, 06:18:44 PM
the guys who did the game last year here were probably the best ones I have heard do a game from us.  Im sure you were just like them.

I'm going to try to at least work the update machine from the game on Saturday.  Last year they had me on at halftime.

I told their SID that I would help spotting for us if needed. 
when you get a call at halftime of your game from the SID for next week saying you better pack extra uniforms...you know it must be bad up there.... :o

Last year's broadcast team was very good, I agree...much better than myself I would say!  Anyway, yes that is a bad sign to have to bring extra uniforms!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 30, 2006, 01:13:01 PM
The inconsistent Gulls showed that they have plenty of talent still on the team! They are young and play that way- but they gave Wesley all they could handle for sure. I actually thought that SU was the faster team on the field which was a reversal from what I saw last year. Wesley's experience at QB was the difference in the game, as he was able to move them into field goal position for the last second winning field goal. Kudos to Wesley's kicker - he hit both tries in a tough wind. I was most impressed, however with Salisbury's defense as they totally frustated Warrick in the first half and had him berating teamates on the field. He made enough plays and benefitted from a late hit that led to the tying field goal in the second half. No excuses- you can't let a judgement call type hit on the QB happen, especially in a close game-again inexperience in tight games for SU. The turnover bug bit SU one last time giving Wesley the ball in SU territory for the final drive. Wesley's running game was shut down as SU's defensive front handled the run and applied pressure all day-great job. After the game I thought that Wesley's players showed great class in joining SU players in the middle of the field for a moment of reflection. Good luck to Wesley the rest of the way and go win the National Championship for all the ACFC teams. SU- keep playing hard and go knock Widener out of their playoff push! Good Luck to all and may everyone stay healthy! GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 30, 2006, 05:43:22 PM
PA_Wesleyfan:

I hope you sister is well (from the accident) and wish your Father a blessed marriage.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 30, 2006, 06:19:49 PM
Thanks NJ..
She took a few lumps and stitches but is fine. And dad ,,, he actually scheduled wedding away from Wesley home games !!!  What a fan !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 30, 2006, 06:51:25 PM
away from a home game.....yes....but same day as Route 13 battle?????

hmmmmmmmmmmh
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 30, 2006, 07:03:20 PM
ah yes but Wesley did have 7 home games!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 30, 2006, 10:21:15 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 30, 2006, 07:03:20 PM
ah yes but Wesley did have 7 home games!!

It should be interesting to see Wesley in the Playoffs.  I'm not entirely convinced that they have beaten ANYONE worth writing home about yet.  The close Salisbury game will definitely help them.

Edit:  I will give you the Averett win...they look good after the tough first two weeks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 31, 2006, 10:18:01 PM
SID 

Looks like COLD weather for Saturday here in SE PA 40s for highs.

Sooooooo I wonder what BPort is gonna be like BRRRRR. Take those thermals..

I just checked central NY weather.... SNOW showers.... Now in laymans terms we know that means snow showers. But in Central and UpState NY you can get a foot of snow showers !!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 31, 2006, 11:12:02 PM
The family informs me it shouldn't be too bad this weekend...Should be Flurries, but who know what could change till then! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 01, 2006, 08:33:26 AM
PA...you know how to get a morning started for someone.....first thing to see...snow showers.......GULP    ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 01, 2006, 06:16:08 PM
Sid

  Just letting you know that flurries in PA and So Va are quite different from Flurries in NY ...Dress warm my friend,,,
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 01, 2006, 08:51:28 PM
The forecast from the Rochester NBC station for Friday and saturday:

Friday Mostly cloudy, brisk and cold with a few flurries. High 37-42.
Saturday A morning flurry, otherwise, clouds and some sun. High 38-43.

Not bad at all!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 01, 2006, 08:56:25 PM
well..that's a little more encouraging

PA: flurries here in the Tidewater region.....place is a panic

flurries up there.....just another day in the park.

It could have one of two effects on us...with a lot of our players being from Va and south....chances are they've never played in snow....they maybe kids in a candy store....or the opposite.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 01, 2006, 09:04:23 PM
I would wear some warm clothing though, that's very cold even for NY in early November.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 01, 2006, 09:31:31 PM
oh true there....but glad to be in the press box...woohoo
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 01, 2006, 09:35:25 PM
I hope they still bring you Jimmy Z's food during the halftime! That was good stuff...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 03, 2006, 10:36:26 PM
Sid

  BRRRRRRRR!!! Hope you got lots of coffee!!! I think that NNA gives B Port a game but the Builders are coming out of 70 degree weather and that's the difference in this one. 

  BPort 20 NNA 17

  Widener is too much for the Gulls. Gulls took a huge shot at Wesley and probably will be down some this week. But if Widener is looking past the Gulls to Del Val SSU could steel one.

  Widener 24 SSU 10

  Waynesburg may be down after last weeks lost to W&J But  doesn't score pts.

  Waynesburg 17 Frostburg 7
   
   Chowan is not a very good team again.

  Wesley 48 Chowan 7
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 04, 2006, 12:09:24 PM
Hope you made it to the port safely and are bundled up NNASID!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 04, 2006, 01:06:44 PM
The builders return a fumble 54 yards to take a 6-0 lead...the XP is botched. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 04, 2006, 01:33:31 PM
NNA leads 12-0, the XP botched again...Brockport has almost run both back for 2 points...we'll see if any of that matters in the end. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 04, 2006, 01:54:21 PM
Quote from: portgrad2004 on November 04, 2006, 01:33:31 PM
NNA leads 12-0, the XP botched again...Brockport has almost run both back for 2 points...we'll see if any of that matters in the end. 

Blocked punt return for TD... Builders lead 18-3
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 04, 2006, 02:06:19 PM
Wesley 24  Chowan 0 half Catanea ties school record 44 yrd fg as half runs out
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 04, 2006, 02:51:38 PM
Brockport tries to kick onsides on the opening kickoff of half, and fails miserably.  NNA drives right down and scores, 25-3 NNA 11:41 3rd quarter
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 04, 2006, 03:39:18 PM
Salisbury 17 Widener 14 final at Chester, PA.  Byron Westbrook had two interceptions in less than two minutes at the end of the game to help preserve a Seagull victory.  Salisbury snaps Widener's six game win streak.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 04, 2006, 03:40:38 PM
Looks like NNA is putting it to Bport today!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 04, 2006, 03:43:03 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on November 04, 2006, 03:40:38 PM
Looks like NNA is putting it to Bport today!

NNA wins, didn't catch the score at the end though... it was 31-11 or 31-18, I can't say for sure...

Congrats to the builders
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 04, 2006, 05:05:39 PM
NNA 31-18....final

yeah it was a brrrrisk day in brockport.....forced six turnovers.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 04, 2006, 06:29:47 PM
one more Sid . Wow was I wrong. Ya know I wanted to pick NNA but they say never pick with the heart always with the head. Go figure. Well anyway it will be a  nice 8/12hr  ride back!!   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2006, 10:27:22 PM
Nice Win, Builders!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 05, 2006, 12:08:59 AM
Thank you Ralph....says a lot for our program to go to a place like Brockport (ahem...13 hour trip PA Wes...but someone was lucky enough to fly...lol) no matter what type of season they are having and beat them....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 07, 2006, 03:26:36 PM
Great game Gulls! Showed a lot of grit in grinding out a tough win on the road. The defense was stellar and the offense came up with enough big plays to get the job done-big kick (44 yards) held up due to stout defense. Widener just could not run on Salisbury at all, it looks like it took a season for the new defensive alignment to finally click with the guys. SU can finish strong with a win over Frostburg in the Regent's Cup game Saturday @ Towson. I think that these guys will be scary good next year as they return a bunch of guys. Good luck this weekend! GO GULLS
hey.....great job Builders- Brockport is huge and that is a tough place to play
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 09, 2006, 06:43:19 PM
Interesting reading here   

http://www.newszap.com/articles/2006/11/09/dm/central_delaware/sports/dsnspt03.txt

Wesley will play Widener and DelVal next year. Also possibilty of Morrisville joining the conference in the near future but I also here maybe the NJAC for them 

http://www.newszap.com
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 09, 2006, 09:39:20 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 09, 2006, 06:43:19 PM
Interesting reading here   

http://www.newszap.com/articles/2006/11/09/dm/central_delaware/sports/dsnspt03.txt

Wesley will play Widener and DelVal next year. Also possibilty of Morrisville joining the conference in the near future but I also here maybe the NJAC for them 

http://www.newszap.com

A nice step up in scheduling
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 10, 2006, 07:43:09 AM
that's two nice teams to add to the schedule......:)

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 10, 2006, 11:11:06 PM
Any Wesley fans out there?  people on the ODAC board calling out the Wesley fanbase as thugs.  Mainly when I have dealt with Wesley they have seemed civil at least. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 10, 2006, 11:30:17 PM
Quote from: portgrad2004 on November 10, 2006, 11:11:06 PM
Any Wesley fans out there?  people on the ODAC board calling out the Wesley fanbase as thugs.  Mainly when I have dealt with Wesley they have seemed civil at least. 

  Port

  That was hashed and rehashed last year.... There were a few drunk idiots who more than likely never made it into the game that caused some problems after the Bridgewater game across the street from the stadium.  I didn't see the incident so I don't  have any more to add to that. No one from Wesley ever came on here and talked about it first hand. I would think that prpobably won't be happening again Especially if Pres. Dr Miller knew or knows of the incident. I have seen people removed from the stadium since that incident for whatever reasons,  so hopefully that won't happen again.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 10, 2006, 11:37:00 PM
Sid and Bportgrad

  I am giving you the nod this week. Thanks for keeping this board alive. Shame we can't get more people to participate. Well I know we will get a few over zelous fans here next week.

  Wesley 45 Morrisville 7
   NNA 28 Chowan 14
   SSU 31 FSU 17
   BPort St. 27 Buff St. 17
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 10, 2006, 11:41:24 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 10, 2006, 11:30:17 PM
Quote from: portgrad2004 on November 10, 2006, 11:11:06 PM
Any Wesley fans out there?  people on the ODAC board calling out the Wesley fanbase as thugs.  Mainly when I have dealt with Wesley they have seemed civil at least. 

  Port

  That was hashed and rehashed last year.... There were a few drunk idiots who more than likely never made it into the game that caused some problems after the Bridgewater game across the street from the stadium.  I didn't see the incident so I don't  have any more to add to that. No one from Wesley ever came on here and talked about it first hand. I would think that prpobably won't be happening again Especially if Pres. Dr Miller knew or knows of the incident. I have seen people removed from the stadium since that incident for whatever reasons,  so hopefully that won't happen again.

Yeah, that's what I figured...there is a certainly high horse that some of them are riding over on that board. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2006, 03:44:36 AM
Neigh.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 11, 2006, 10:21:51 AM
senior day at wesley and you're only giving 45 for the home-boys......hmmmmmmmmh...although I said you'd hang 50 last week.

seriously....we've never had a problem with the fans at wesley.  its just the people in the blue uniforms that have given us the most trouble in the way you expect....whipping butts  :D

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 11, 2006, 12:31:19 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2006, 03:44:36 AM
Neigh.

Well played!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 11, 2006, 01:39:31 PM
Wesley 27 -0 after 1 qtr
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 11, 2006, 02:20:54 PM
you want to jack that up a little now PA?

NNA 23-0 at half
guess what...another blocked punt...this time for a safety
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 11, 2006, 03:30:10 PM
Anyone got the score for Brockport/ Buff State? The webcast isn't working.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 11, 2006, 04:22:42 PM
final was brock 48-0
nna 37-0
wesley 53-14
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on November 11, 2006, 04:48:49 PM
Final:

Salisbury 42

Frostburg St. 15
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 11, 2006, 05:01:00 PM
A blowout day for the ACFC!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BVHawk on November 11, 2006, 10:08:14 PM
I assume Wesley is in the playoffs?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 11, 2006, 10:14:59 PM
Probably as the #1 seed, too!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 11, 2006, 10:28:01 PM
Good luck Wesley!!!
3-way dance for second in the league with Bport, Salisbury and the Builders (woohoo)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 11, 2006, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: nnasid on November 11, 2006, 10:28:01 PM
Good luck Wesley!!!
3-way dance for second in the league with Bport, Salisbury and the Builders (woohoo)

Congrats NNASID, your builders were certainly impressive this year.  Good Job!  Congrats to Wesley and I hope you play and beat the ODAC Reps W&L!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 12, 2006, 12:22:22 AM
and I heard the weather in brockport...to quote the green man from Mike-n-Mike.....awful...just awful

thank god it was....just awful...this week and not last

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BVHawk on November 12, 2006, 09:33:12 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 11, 2006, 10:14:59 PM
Probably as the #1 seed, too!

Well then, congrats to Wesley for making the post season and best of luck!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 12, 2006, 03:05:56 PM
Good luck to Wesley next week vs. Dickinson!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 12, 2006, 11:15:58 PM
Sid

Congrats to the Builders for a great season. I know how hard it is to look ahead from year to year for NNA. But this has to be a good building block for next years team.
  Boy is Wesley taking a beating on the ODAC board. Guess thats what happens when you're the BIG DOG. 

Great season Wolverines !!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 13, 2006, 12:25:20 AM
Boy oh boy, I know Brockport didn't do too well this year, but there is NO MENTION at all on the Brockport Athletics site of the game yesterday versus Buffalo State. 

I know they have a relatively new SID (The one we used to have is now at Union) but what in the world is going on?  Do they think no one cares anymore?  I am really enraged about this actually.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 13, 2006, 10:05:15 AM
Great Job in the Regents Cup game Salisbury!- a thorough win in all phases against in -state rival Frostburg. I see Salisbury being very good next year. The QB was the MVP of the game and rushed for about 180 yards- his confidence grows each week in the offense and the defense has played as good as I have seen since the DeHaven days over the last half of the season. Hopefully they can get an ECAC bid and continue the season one more game. Good Luck Wesley- people are sleeping on the ACFC-show 'em just how tough this conference is.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 13, 2006, 11:41:59 AM
Thanks PA.....hope you guys can rep the conference all the way to Salem.

With this place you are dead on the money you can never say 100%.....but it does leave a good feeling with everyone after winning the last four
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on November 13, 2006, 04:17:22 PM
ECAC Bowl Bids announced:

Delaware Valley Vs.  Salisbury


QuoteIn the ECAC North, host SUNY Cortland (9-1) will face Rensselaer (6-3) in the ECAC Northeast Bowl Championship game.  The University of Rochester (7-3) will travel to Alfred (7-3) for the ECAC Northwest Bowl Championship while Coast Guard (8-2) is scheduled to host Bridgewater State (7-2) in the ECAC North Atlantic Bowl Championship game.

In the ECAC South, Delaware Valley (8-2) will face Salisbury University (5-5) in the ECAC South Atlantic Bowl Championship game.  Widener  (6-4) will travel to Ursinus (8-2) for the ECAC Southwest Bowl Championship while Kean University (6-4) is scheduled to host King's College (6-4) in the ECAC Southeast Bowl Championship game.

All six ECAC Bowl Championship games have been tentatively scheduled for a kickoff at noon.


http://www.ecac.org/feature/feature.asp?id=3560
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 14, 2006, 09:35:07 AM
All right Salisbury- do not sleep on this game! Delaware Valley thinks they will have an easy time with you guys- absolute disrespect on their boards. I saw the same thing before the Widener game and we know how that turned out! Let's get after them early and often and rep the ACFC and Salisbury and launch into next season ready to go. GOOD LUCK and GO GULLS!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 14, 2006, 10:14:42 AM
SID:

Congratulations on the season for the Builders.  The ACFC as a conference is earning a solid reputation as an excellent football league.



PA_Wesleyfan:

Good luck to the Wolverines this year, and finish the job you guys started last year!



To the Salisbury Gulls, maintain the momentum from the Frostburg game, learn from the lessons of the close losses aganist Wesley, CNU, and St. Peters, and the team will finish the season with a winning record.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 14, 2006, 05:46:01 PM
  This Wesley team seems determined to best last years efforts. Even though they had a little hiccup at Salisbury they rallied to win that game with veteran leadership.
   Some younger players have played a huge role in this years success. I don't think many pundits would have given Wesley much of a chance at another run at the playoffs if they knew before the seasonthey would be losing three of their top recievers having already lost a 1000 yrd running back to graduation. Chris Warwick is a big time QB and has had a hand in the way Wesley has retuned to the playoffs. He refuses to lose. The group of freshmen running backs has stepped up week after week. The Defense doesn't break very often and with the way the Offense scores so quickly sometimes the D doesn't get a lot of rest between possesions. The special teams are above average and could be the difference down the line. The coaches have done another great job getting this team to play hard week after week.
    Can they win the national championship? That will be determined down the road. Will this be a successful season if they lose before the the finals?  Sure it will be!!
It has been said before, there is only one team that can win on the field. Anyone who straps it up week after week is a winner!!!!

  Good luck to the Wolverines ....
 

       
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 14, 2006, 08:56:21 PM
It'll be interesting to see...the All-ACFC team comes out late Thursday
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 14, 2006, 09:16:41 PM
Sid

Are you going to Dover for the game? I plan on going but final plans are going to have to wait until probably Thursday even Friday.
I  wouldn't be surprised to see a tight game this week. Coaches Drass and Breaux know each other very well.
 
Should be interesting picks for all-conference. I remember how proud I was in '98'


     
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 14, 2006, 10:08:52 PM
like to be...but I may have to wait for my appearance up there...we have a women's basketball tipoff tournament with consolation at 1 and championship at 3

now..talk about a tournament
17th-ranked NAIA D2 team (Notre Dame.....of Ohio)
NCAA D3 tournament team (concordia-moorhead)
USCAA National Champions (Southern Va.)
and us

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 14, 2006, 10:49:59 PM
Wow

  They do make you work !!! LOL
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 14, 2006, 11:57:54 PM
Quote from: nnasid on November 14, 2006, 10:08:52 PM
like to be...but I may have to wait for my appearance up there...we have a women's basketball tipoff tournament with consolation at 1 and championship at 3

now..talk about a tournament
17th-ranked NAIA D2 team (Notre Dame.....of Ohio)
NCAA D3 tournament team (concordia-moorhead)
USCAA National Champions (Southern Va.)
and us

nnasid, I see that the USCAA National Basketball Tourney is an interesting format (http://www.theuscaa.com/w-basketball/sporthome.htm).

You will see Southern Viriginia again. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 15, 2006, 12:55:05 AM
Tuesday, and Brockport finally posted the story to the eagles 48-0 win on Senior Day!  3 days isn't bad....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 15, 2006, 08:53:11 AM
Interesting in that we got 12 teams and we finished third last year.  Four first round games..winners got the top four seeds.

and we will play the champs (twice..possibly three times) and the team that knocked us out and lost to SVU in the finals (Robert Morris-Springfield)

I know the USCAA website all to well.   We are the national office for the USCAA

:)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 15, 2006, 10:53:02 PM
Sid

I forgot how busy you get this time of year!!!
I'll tell you. There are no fans from Dickinson on the Centenial board and no Wesley fans on this board. I may have to go over to the ODAC board and banter a bit. They aren't real fond of Welsey fans but at least they chat it up Woooo.

  I think Wesley wins 31 -  14 ..The weather is going to turn cold and windy (always windy in Dover) but the way the D has been playing I think they are good for at least two good opportunities for the O scoring twice. And I think the stable of backs helps Wesley in that if one isn't running well then they go to another. And of course
the QB and recievers will have something to contribute. I am partial to kickers but this kid can kick it from anywhere and in the end that may be the difference on a bad weather day
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 16, 2006, 08:07:37 AM
Did you just say windy in Dover  ;D
I know I didnt see that right (tongue stuck in cheek)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2006, 05:06:57 PM
Sid

I was in Dover in August , it was near 100 degs. and probably 100% humidity and it was breezy.... And no not a cool breeze... Of course you have that same type weather in NPN.. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 16, 2006, 05:54:39 PM
PA_Wesleyfan:

If you need any help over on the ODAC board, give me a "shout".  :)

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2006, 06:09:38 PM

  NJ 

hahaha we'll see where the playoffs take us...I personally got along with them just fine.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 16, 2006, 09:07:41 PM
they can be brutal over there....

also....the All-Conference team is out...10 from NNA...Janaro Coach of the Year

http://www.acfcfootball.com/media0607/61116football-allconf.htm
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 17, 2006, 12:17:32 AM
Quote from: nnasid on November 16, 2006, 09:07:41 PM
they can be brutal over there....

also....the All-Conference team is out...10 from NNA...Janaro Coach of the Year

http://www.acfcfootball.com/media0607/61116football-allconf.htm

Congrats to all that got Honored.  I certainly think Janaro was an obvious choice there! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2006, 01:28:45 PM
Wesley leads 21-13 at the Half. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CBE on November 18, 2006, 01:43:28 PM
Closer than I would have guessed
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on November 18, 2006, 02:13:33 PM
Final:


Salisbury 15


Delaware Valley 9
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2006, 03:18:37 PM
Wesley pulled away to win 49-21... Congrats and good luck with CMU next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 18, 2006, 05:18:10 PM
congrats wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2006, 09:01:53 PM
 Dickinson threw a few hay makers early at Wesley amassing over 200 yrds of offense in their first three possesions but Wesley kept their cool and fought back for a decisive victory. After figuring out the miss direction  and trickery of offense by Dickinson, Wesley's D held them in check the rest of the game. Wesley's offensive line did a great job of pass and run blocking all day long
  Dickinsons defensive players and fans cheering when Wesley's QB was injured was low point as well as a Dickinson player being ejected for throwing a punch. I actually saw a referee throw his flag pick it up and throw it again... Guess he forgot to use his bean bag or hat.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CBE on November 18, 2006, 10:07:06 PM
Was it Warrick that was hurt?  If so, to what extent?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2006, 10:29:01 PM
 He was just dinged. Got up and went to a knee. Looked like he just got wind knocked out of him. It was the reaction of the Dickinson players and fans that was disturbing. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 18, 2006, 11:59:00 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2006, 10:29:01 PM
He was just dinged. Got up and went to a knee. Looked like he just got wind knocked out of him. It was the reaction of the Dickinson players and fans that was disturbing. 

There's definitely no class in that, I hope there were more Dickinson fans trying to hush the bad ones.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 19, 2006, 12:04:41 AM
unfortunately not.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 19, 2006, 04:58:16 PM
well here's hoping next week will see warrick behind center against CMU
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 19, 2006, 05:09:17 PM
 Sid

I am sure he will play. Don't think it was anything serious.

Sure was a nippy day in Dover yesterday. I still have a chill. BRRR.

It will be interesting to see if CMU can run on Wesley. Sure won't be easy if they can't throw and Wesley stacks the box.

Probably the only way to stops Wesley's O is to keep 'em off the field.

You have to be impressed with the speed of both of Wesley's lines. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 19, 2006, 05:30:02 PM
we had our tournament going here and our trainer had the game going in his office feeding us updates....saw the first score and about fell out...but then the wolverines started smelling blood...and attacked.

they win one more you might get a visit from the conference sid ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 20, 2006, 09:42:09 AM
Congrats Salisbury! Outstanding effort in all phases, thanks to all the players and coaches, trainers and managers for a tremendous turnaround to this season. Thanks to all the seniors that really stepped it up this game. Could not have been more proud to be a SU fan saturday. Cannot wait for the '07 season -with a ton of talent coming back and this year's tough schedule under their belts, this team will be one to watch. Way to go Wesley - keep rollin'
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BVHawk on November 21, 2006, 01:49:29 PM
Congrats to Wesley on a convincing 1st round win over Dickinson.  Best of luck the rest of the way!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 22, 2006, 10:22:46 PM
 Happy Thanksgiving to all you posters who brave the bipartisanship of others to cheer on your teams no matter what.  And to all you Wovlerine lurkers!!! You know who you are!!!!  8) ?Have a Great Day!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 23, 2006, 03:12:40 AM
I second that, Happy Thanksgiving to all ACFCers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2006, 01:09:15 PM
Wesley 31 Cmu 14

  I tried to look at Weather as an indicator but right now I don't think there is that big a difference from Pittsburgh to Dover. The only difference here may be the wind and it is always windy in Dover.
  Turf no difference
   Kicking  game,  edge Wesley. Both kickers for Wesley are above average. Cattanea is almost automatic and has 4 ,40yrd+ fgs and Reuter has a knack for the lost art of hitting the coffin corner.
   Running game,  slight edge CMU;  Wesley does run as much as CMU but is effective. CMU runs most of the time
CMU runs alot and get their yrds. But it could be hard for both teams to run
   Passing game,   Edge Wesley;   Warwick uses all his recievers and has agood pocket sense so I think it will be hard for CMU to get to him.

  Defense, even; Both teams have good solid defenses but if Wesley stops the run and CMU has to throw a lot that could be trouble for CMU.

  If Wesley scores quickly it could be another harsh day for another visiting team.  The Wolverines can score from anywhere on the field and that can take the wind out of a defense. 

    Good Luck to the Wolverines
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 24, 2006, 04:39:12 PM
I like the observations there PA.....will be looking and rooting from VA
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2006, 12:50:19 PM
Wesley 14-0 and  has the ball inside the 20
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2006, 01:09:40 PM
Wesley 21 -o half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2006, 02:07:14 PM
wesley 28- CMU  0 after 3 qtrs
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2006, 03:19:36 PM
The South Championship goes through Dover~!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 25, 2006, 04:27:02 PM
now you also need to become the biggest (fill in with UWW opponent) fans to get a home semifinal game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2006, 05:47:54 PM
 We know how this Wesley team reacts to challenges so we'll see how it plays out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleyrocks833 on November 25, 2006, 09:04:02 PM
I'll be ready for the Wesley/Mary Hardin Baylor game. It looks like I'll be at the game. Wesley has an edge going into it. Using their 4 headed running game (Jackson, Robinson, Coroma, and Penewell), their excellent pass game headed by the D3 player of the year Chris Warrick, and their tough defence. The coaching staff is also a plus with Chip Knapp coaching the offense and Mike Drass coaching the defence.

Go Wesley, and destroy Mary Hardin Baylor!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on November 25, 2006, 10:12:39 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2006, 05:47:54 PM
We know how this Wesley team reacts to challenges so we'll see how it plays out.

The people back in Whitewater saw how Wesley reacted to a challenge in the 2005 semi-final - in case you have forgotten, it wasn't pretty. :D  Hopefully, you've improved about 53 points this year.

As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on November 25, 2006, 10:24:27 PM
Quote from: BoBo on November 25, 2006, 10:12:39 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2006, 05:47:54 PM
We know how this Wesley team reacts to challenges so we'll see how it plays out.

The people back in Whitewater saw how Wesley reacted to a challenge in the 2005 semi-final - in case you have forgotten, it wasn't pretty. :D  Hopefully, you've improved about 53 points this year.

As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for...
Personally, I'm pulling for 3 MHB-UWW games in 2 years ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2006, 10:26:03 PM
BoBo

Wesley is not worried about WW. Believe me they will focus on UMHB only. WW has to worry about St. Johns. And if it comes down to it I wouldn't be your house on an outcome. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 26, 2006, 01:01:17 AM
Congrats to Wesley!  Keep it going....Those texas teams are very tough!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 26, 2006, 12:32:39 PM
As a CMU player that played all of yesterday's game, I would like to say congrats to the Wesley team and good luck the rest of the way.  Their team speed is outstanding and they played a very sound game yesterday.  Hope you guys go all the way - good luck with UMHB next week.

Yesterday, it was proven that it takes more than one year to build a program capable of a deep playoff run.  CMU had a lot of injury problems all season, and yesterday when they ran into a much better team at less than full strength there were bound to be some problems.  The left tackle played with a large brace on his ankle due to a severe high ankle sprain.  The left guard had been up all night puking.  The tight end had just returned from a broken foot....blah, blah, blah, the list goes on.  CMU just didn't have the depth to overcome those problems and was not yet prepared to play a big-time game against a team like Wesley.  (This is not to suggest that CMU was capable of BEATING Wesley, by any stretch of the imagination - I think we may have kept it a tad closer, but they were by far the better team, bigger and faster all around).

We had a good run, and are very proud of what we did accomplish.  We won (and yesterday, lost) with class all season.  We may not have gone very far in the playoffs, but I think by winning a game we did prove that we belonged.  Going from 5-5 to 11-1 and ranked in the top 25 was something no one would have expected.  Although many still believe our record was built upon a weak schedule and that we were not that good, we still won 11 games and a first round playoff game.  We have plenty to be proud of.  Considering that we were ranked #150 in the Kickoff 2006, I think it's safe to say that we brought CMU up a notch in 2006, and hopefully we can continue that progress over the next few years.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on November 26, 2006, 12:48:09 PM
PA_wesleyfan,
I assume you will be in the house on Saturday?

A few of the Stone Station crew will be there as well. Stop by and introduce yourself. ;) I'm guessing we will be in the field across from the stadium if we get there early enough. See you there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2006, 01:16:07 PM
Tartanplayer
     To me 11-1 is 11-1 and that is an above year for any team. You should be proud of that accomplishment.  I actually coached one of your teammates in baseball a couple of years ago. R. Dunlevy. Good Luck to you and CMU in future seasons.

Llama
    Get there early dude.. We arrived at 11:00 for the Dickinson game and had trouble finding parking. Though I didn't attempt that parking area for tail gaiting.
And I wonder if as many people from Texas will be at the game as the Dickinson game. I do plan on making the trip but I don't know who else is going with me so I can't  make my final plans until I find that out.. But I would like to meet you and the other from the Stone Station. I think what you do is great for DIII football.
      When my son was playing in the late 90's we had a group of maybe 10 who tail gaited under the south goal post in the street before the school used that lot. And those times with those people who stopped by are still special to us.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 26, 2006, 06:48:11 PM
PA,

Your fans and players getting ripped on in the UAA board!  I don't know if it's sour grapes or what, but Your fans have really been ripped on lately!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleyrocks833 on November 26, 2006, 06:59:52 PM
TartanPlayer,
I would like to say congrats to your season 11-1 is an impressive record as PA_Wesleyfan said. But ready or not the game is still going to be played and the outcome would probably be the same... Wesley victory. No offense. Once again congrats to CMU.

BoBo
Keep in mind that both teams have to win one more game to play each other in the semis. Who knows St. Johns could crush Whitewater.

pg04,
Thats defenatly sour grapes. ;)


Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2006, 07:53:04 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 26, 2006, 06:48:11 PM
PA,

Your fans and players getting ripped on in the UAA board!  I don't know if it's sour grapes or what, but Your fans have really been ripped on lately!

  pg04.Wesleyrocks883

I don't let that stuff bother me. I know there are one or two fans that get out of control outside the gates after the game. The same thing happened to a few fans from Bridgewater last year. It doesn't mean every fan is like that but it does leave a little bit of a bitter taste. And there is something about (fans)being a sore winner.  I have been going to Wesley games for eleven years and have traveled around and there are fans that aren't quite nice other places too. 
As for the players mouthing off... Well I wasn't on the field but I know how nasty it gets in the trenches. Sometimes tempers between players get testy!  But after the Dickinson game the Wesley players asked the visitors to join them in the middle of the field for their post game prayer. I don't know that any accepted. And that was after a rather tasteless act  by some players and fans cheering an injury to a Wesley player.   But I understand that after the Salisbury game the two teams did it together.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 27, 2006, 02:25:12 PM
PA- That meeting at the middle of the field @ Salisbury definitely happened, I thought it was a class act on both sides, as coaches and players from both sides gathered. I think there is a fierce rivalry, but also great respect between those two teams. Some of that comes in that most of those players and coaches have been on both sides of the score in those games, and that they alternately meet every year at each other's house. I think the trash between the fans sometimes gets ramped up when it's somebody new. Let's face it - almost every school has a few kids that drink too much and get stupid with someone's fans, it's unfortunate but it happens. That doesn't make all of their fans or students bad. I have been to Wesley several times in full SU gear and tailgated with some friends from Wesley and had nothing but a good natured "hard time".  It is football and it gets emotional sometimes. I wish you guys luck and bring home (to the ACFC!) the trophy. With that said I hope the SU boys are already prepping for WC next season!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 27, 2006, 06:08:00 PM
SU Backer

  I know that a lot of kids at both schools have gone to High School together which adds to the bantering I am sure. I know the those games are tough, but in the end it's great to see the kid interreacting. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on November 28, 2006, 04:47:16 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2006, 10:26:03 PM
BoBo

WW has to worry about St. Johns. And if it comes down to it I wouldn't be bet   your house on an outcome. ;D

Couldn't agree more with you on that.  SJU is more than a simple speedbump.  I'll only bet on a sure thing (which means I rarely if ever bet), but I think UWW has just enough to pull this one out.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BVHawk on November 28, 2006, 04:36:55 PM
Congrats on advancing once again Wesley! UMHB should be a good challenge.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 28, 2006, 09:06:34 PM
PA
Dont think I will be able to swing it up there this weekend.  Will be rooting from SE VA
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 28, 2006, 09:22:42 PM
  Sid

I know you are a busy man. Not sure now that I will make it either. Things have come up. Should be a dandy of a game. I don't know what else the boys have to do to get some respect. Alot of these posters are not saying good things about our Wolverines.  Just the way we like it... Will they never learn??? And good to see some Wesley posters floating around  and standing up for the team!!!!
You can get that game at WDEL.com
   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Rick Akins on November 28, 2006, 10:29:24 PM
pa wesleyfan:  I was at the UMHB/Wesley game last year--and will be this year also. I will say very nice things about your guys.  See what I have posted on the ASC board and elsewhere. Warrick was amazing last year. We helped your guys out a little bit with all our turnovers but you certainly outplayed us that day.  As a UMHB fan, I want a different result this time--we will all see saturday!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 28, 2006, 10:50:26 PM
Quote from: umhbcrufan16 on November 28, 2006, 10:29:24 PM
pa wesleyfan:  I was at the UMHB/Wesley game last year--and will be this year also. I will say very nice things about your guys.  See what I have posted on the ASC board and elsewhere. Warrick was amazing last year. We helped your guys out a little bit with all our turnovers but you certainly outplayed us that day.  As a UMHB fan, I want a different result this time--we will all see saturday!!
crufan

   I don't think other than maybe one (PC) fan most of everything I have read on the ASC board and from Cru fans has been more about your team  rather than about trashing Wesley. I prefer not to get into debates about mine is bigger than yours but sometimes I feel compelled to defend against those who don't deal with facts. I think we are in for a great game. o matter the result both our teams deserve to be where they are.

   Side note to all the Cru fans DRESS WARM it will be cool to cold and windy. And it may be wet though the storm system is supposed to depart late Friday . Saturdays outlook 51 and sunny. But it is always breezy in Dover   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 29, 2006, 10:25:51 AM
breezy in the wesley wind tunnel????   amazing    :o ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Rick Akins on November 29, 2006, 02:27:01 PM
wesleyfan:  thanks for the weather report!! Looking forward to a great game on Saturday!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: LUMAN80 on November 29, 2006, 05:10:19 PM
wesley wind tunnel lol
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2006, 07:27:58 PM
 Well at least the visitors side has the sun!!!!

Sid

  Good thing we know how to play the wind!!!

Conrad

What did you do get a week off??? Or has the bug caught you .... Great pregame last week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2006, 07:52:21 PM
I just read that Wesley is bring  bleacher seating for 600. Gonna be a great atmosphere for football...   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on November 29, 2006, 10:13:14 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2006, 07:52:21 PM
I just read that Wesley is bring  bleacher seating for 600. Gonna be a great atmosphere for football...   

PAWesleyfan,

What is the normal seating capacity at Dover?  Are the home and visitors side equal?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2006, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: roocru on November 29, 2006, 10:13:14 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2006, 07:52:21 PM
I just read that Wesley is bring  bleacher seating for 600. Gonna be a great atmosphere for football...   

PAWesleyfan,

What is the normal seating capacity at Dover?  Are the home and visitors side equal?

  Site says 2500 but paid last week was 3300 and they added 600 this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 30, 2006, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan link=topic=3755.msg624345#msg624345  Conrad

What did you do get a week off??? Or has the bug caught you .... Great pregame last week.
/quote]

Thanks, no writing last week. UD season is over so no more freelancing for me for a while. Just helping WDEL/PA announcer with stats and scores.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 30, 2006, 08:24:57 PM
Quote from: nnasid on November 29, 2006, 10:25:51 AM
breezy in the wesley wind tunnel????   amazing    :o ;D

You've been to Brockport, now THAT is a wind tunnel!.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 30, 2006, 08:41:50 PM
pg04

  I have been to Dover on a 100 deg day with 100 % humidity and it's breezy!!!!
Add that breeze to the forecast this weekend and it willl be a bit chilling. Luckioly the ran Friday won't impact the field that much.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2006, 12:05:53 AM

    Here's my take on the weekend


    When games are played at any level in any sport at the jucture of the season alot of the time games can be either very close or very one sided. And I don't think that a team on either side of the sheet can be considered a failure if they are beaten soundly. We saw that at Welsey last year were things went extremely well for them even though they were a decided underdog for 3 straight weeks and then the opposite occured. Playing down hill as they say is a lot easier than up hill.

Wesley 30 UMHB 20
Eating up the clock can also hurt UMHB if Wesley can score from anywhere on the field as has been the case all year. That will put Welsey's D on the field more which does allow teams to get some points. But Wesley will stack up well if UMHB doesn't keep them honest with a passing game. Wesley's DB's single cover very well which allows them 7 or 8 men in the box.

SJF 27 Rowan 21 OT
I think Rowans luck runs out. They have played some tough games and aftyer a while it catches up with you.

UW-W 28 St. John's 17
Wonder if that winter storm has any effect? Would love to see another game in Dover but I don't think the St. Johns can win in Whitewater. I don't think Beaver is tired yet..

Mt. Union 34 Capitol 17
I don't think Capitol can outscore the MT.

Good Luck to all teams.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 01, 2006, 10:05:39 AM
yeah....its definitely windy at bport......especially standing outside the press box while finding the right key to open it.....oh yeah...verrrrrrrrry windy   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 01, 2006, 05:27:28 PM
Good Luck Wesley!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2006, 05:30:34 PM
Sid

You getting the nasty stroms in NPN.?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: kubiack78 on December 01, 2006, 05:42:32 PM
Beautiful day in Whitewater:

http://www2.jsonline.com/site/userphotos/slideshow.aspx?PhotoID=5678&fileType=JPG&Source=Thumbnail&catid=82&PageNumber=0
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 01, 2006, 05:56:26 PM
holy cow.....now thats a heck of a mess


i think its at least trying to blow outta here...rained like the devil around 330 (just the time the shipyard lets out...so look up nightmare in the dictionary..you'll have 2 pics....

1) the picture from WHITEsnow..I mean whitewater
2) trying to get out of the shipyard in that messy rain
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 01, 2006, 06:09:13 PM
PAWesleyfan, et al.,

Stone Station will be setup by 10am tomorrow across the street from the endzone that sells the tickets. Just look for the banner. I'll have a brat or dog and a cold Heinekin for any posters who drop by.  Of course we will have the alternative beverage as well! 

Good luck and I look forward to a great game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on December 01, 2006, 06:35:07 PM
Quote from: nnasid on December 01, 2006, 10:05:39 AM
yeah....its definitely windy at bport......especially standing outside the press box while finding the right key to open it.....oh yeah...verrrrrrrrry windy   ;D

I actually had that problem once myself.!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2006, 07:03:18 PM
Llama
   Looks like I am going to have a few extra people with me tomorrow. So hopefully I will get on the road as early as I'd like.
 
Conrad
You spotting again tomorrow? #17 is coming with tomorrow. See you early I hope!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 01, 2006, 11:06:05 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2006, 07:03:18 PM
Llama
   Looks like I am going to have a few extra people with me tomorrow. So hopefully I will get on the road as early as I'd like.
 
Conrad
You spotting again tomorrow? #17 is coming with tomorrow. See you early I hope!!!

Yes, I'll be there around 11:00. I have to take my daughter to dance at 930. Stopped by and watched 1st half of Whitewater/UMHB on tape after work, should be a great game. Damn Ryan Kleppe (UWW DL) is good. My pick for Gaglardi Award. Crusaders looked tough as always too. The storm blow through Dover this evening and conditions should be good in the a.m. Still pretty windy as I lie here in bed.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2006, 08:42:53 AM
OFF TO DOVER!!!

   GO WOLVERINES !!!!!!   Report tonite after 10 pm
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 02, 2006, 11:38:54 AM
Quote from: Conrad on December 01, 2006, 11:06:05 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2006, 07:03:18 PM
Llama
   Looks like I am going to have a few extra people with me tomorrow. So hopefully I will get on the road as early as I'd like.
 
Conrad
You spotting again tomorrow? #17 is coming with tomorrow. See you early I hope!!!

Yes, I'll be there around 11:00. I have to take my daughter to dance at 930. Stopped by and watched 1st half of Whitewater/UMHB on tape after work, should be a great game. Damn Ryan Kleppe (UWW DL) is good. My pick for Gaglardi Award. Crusaders looked tough as always too. The storm blow through Dover this evening and conditions should be good in the a.m. Still pretty windy as I lie here in bed.


Ooops, that was Hardin-Simmons. Neal is their Gaglardi nominee.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on December 02, 2006, 03:09:15 PM
Congrats Wesley!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 02, 2006, 03:19:14 PM
Congratulations Wesley!

Now if SJU can pull it out from 10 down, and SJU just missed a makeable FG. >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kelly Boggs on December 02, 2006, 03:56:13 PM
Congrats to Wesley... best of luck next week against UWW. UMHB will return 10 starters on offense and 7 on "D", so the CRU will re-load. Perhaps we will meet again next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 02, 2006, 04:27:13 PM
Congratulations Wesley!

Your reward for winning the South Region will be another trip to the winter wonderland of Wisconsin-Whitewater.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 02, 2006, 04:46:38 PM
Congrats Wesley Keep rolling.  Hate for your first loss to end it all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on December 02, 2006, 07:41:07 PM
My hat is off to the team from Dover.  Congratulations to the Wesley Wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2006, 10:50:46 PM
   That was a great effort from Wesley today. Other than a couple errors the Wolverines played a real good game today against a   very good UMHB team. And once again it was nice to see all the players gather in the middle of the feild after the handsakes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: patcummings on December 02, 2006, 10:52:51 PM
Now...will Wesley wear the correct shoes this week?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2006, 11:00:16 PM
  Hey no shoe comments til at least Wednesday!! :o And no that wasn't a shoe on wheels truck backing into the stadium in the fourth quarter...

  Good to see you  and Keith today Pat. Got a chance to visit the Stone Station guys after the game. Good to meet some other fans. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 03, 2006, 06:50:04 PM
go get em wesley!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2006, 10:57:24 PM
Sid
      You missed a good one! I don't know if I have ever seen Coach Drass smile so much after a game.

A few thoughts on yesterday. The D played a great game. Subtract the 42 yrds given up on the last series and UMHB has less than 190 total yrds. of O. Take away a couple of unforced errors on O  by Wesley and the score may have been more one sided. We may have to come up with a name for the Stadium.... Hmmm have to think about that.   Turf of Terror!!!! Den of Despair !!!! Haven't lost a home game since Salisbury in 03, I believe.

  Archer

I don't think I know you but it's good to have someone else to put their thoughts here on the boards. 


    I'll put my two cents in for next week later, but I certainly see a competative game from the Wolverines..


     WOOOOOOOOOOOOO???.. Would somebody please explain that to me? I like it just don't know it's origin.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on December 04, 2006, 12:08:58 AM
Congrats to Wesley on South Region title.  Rep the South Region well in the semifinals and get to the Stagg Bowl.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on December 04, 2006, 09:35:00 AM
PA_Wesleyfan:

Congratulations on the win and continue to represent the ACFC well in the semi's.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 04, 2006, 03:16:41 PM
Just checking to see how many Wesley fans (parents or otherwise) are making plans to go to this game?  I'll be there...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ScheckDiesel on December 04, 2006, 10:37:30 PM
Just thought I would stop by the Wesley board and say good luck this weekend... as a UWW student I expect a good game and I hope for better weather.  I know that last year's game wasn't a true representation of your talent... anyways...

Looking forward to Saturday!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BDTartan on December 05, 2006, 12:26:12 AM
While I would like to see Wesley, who beat CMU, win it all.  It's going to be tough.  Playing #2 UWW at home and if you get out of there alive you possibly have to play Mount at Salem.  Wesley has some outstanding speed but I didn't get a chance to see any depth in the CMU game.  Mount has the same abiltiy as Wesley at the 2nd level and maybe even the 3rd so it will be tough, but let's see you get it done.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BVHawk on December 05, 2006, 10:57:54 AM
Congrats to Wesley on making the semi-finals!  UW-Whitewater is tough, but has had two closer games in a row now.  It looks like there's no problem throwing the ball though if the running game isn't there.  Best of luck and hope for an injury free game!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on December 05, 2006, 08:23:33 PM
Some not so good news:

http://democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061205/SPORTS09/612060334

The SUNY-Brockport football team must forfeit three victories for using a player who was not enrolled at the college, the NCAA ruled this week.

Wide receiver Shannon Brinson, a former Spencerport High star, played in nine games and started in six for the Golden Eagles, who finished 4-6. Brockport athletic director Lin Case blamed the oversight on a computer error.

Case said Brinson, who would have been a senior, was dismissed from the team prior to the Golden Eagles' season finale win over Buffalo State.

That win will stand, but three victories achieved with Brinson in uniform will be forfeited, dropping Brockport's record to 1-9.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 05, 2006, 09:31:22 PM
How can that happen???? Geeesh.  How can someone walk onto a football field and noone know that the kid is not a student??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on December 05, 2006, 10:04:04 PM
Your guess is as good as mine! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 06, 2006, 12:43:46 AM
Quote from: BVHawk on December 05, 2006, 10:57:54 AM
...UW-Whitewater is tough, but has had two closer games in a row now.  It looks like there's no problem throwing the ball though if the running game isn't there...

BVHawk -

Your opinion that there's no problem throwing the ball against UW-W is a bit perplexing.  What facts do you base this statement on?  Whitewater's year-to-date national defensive rankings are not too shabby and wouldn't give you much ammunition to shoot with:

Total Defense #20 Wis.-Whitewater
Rushing Defense #4 Wis.-Whitewater
Pass Efficiency Defense #27 Wis.-Whitewater
Scoring Defense #8 Wis.-Whitewater
Passes Intercepted #2 Wis.-Whitewater
Turnover Gain #2 Wis.-Whitewater
Sacks #12 Wis.-Whitewater

I do know from watching or listening to all their games this year that they do show some weakness to an occasional long ball, but that is not reflected in their defensive stats nor has it hurt them scoring-wise in any game this year. Opposing QB's are usually under constant harrassment from a strong, fast D-line and linebacker corps led by Kleppe.  And except for the UWL game in round 2 (over 100 yards), no one has run on them all year.  I could go on and on, but you get my drift.  Most of Whitewater's problems deal with the high number of penalties and 3rd down conversions (esp. last week vs SJU), not the pass defense as you seem to be implying.
BTW, how many games have you seen them play this year?

Thanks!!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on December 06, 2006, 09:40:26 AM
BoBo

I have a feeling that BVHawk is referring to Wesley's win against UMHB and saying that generally, Wesley has not had a problem going to the air if they are struggling in the ground game.  I don't think he's insinuating anything about the UW-Whitewater defense.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BDTartan on December 06, 2006, 06:20:06 PM
Good point TartanPlayer.  I noticed in the CMU game that Wesley seemed to be the type of team that can either run to set-up the pass or pass to set-up the run.  Quite dangerous, but now they will probably be playing the two best overall defenses in the nation.  Won't be so easy.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DustySJU on December 06, 2006, 09:18:57 PM
Quote from: patcummings on December 02, 2006, 10:52:51 PM
Now...will Wesley wear the correct shoes this week?

OK, so we have a total of 2 Wesley fans and 1 commentator.  Will there be more than 3 of you at the Whitewater game Saturday?   ;D

You do have a dog in the fight, correct?

Developing.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2006, 09:26:17 PM
Dusty

  Not too many people post from Wesley. Last year we had a few fly bys but they were a bit too boisterous LOL.  I don't know how many fans will travel. I know they had a trip agenda posted on the football site.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DustySJU on December 06, 2006, 09:27:43 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2006, 09:26:17 PM
Dusty

  Not too many people post from Wesley. Last year we had a few fly bys but they were a bit too boisterous LOL.  I don't know how many fans will travel. I know they had a trip agenda posted on the football site.   

Get 'em movin' PA... this is the start of something big!  ;)

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 06, 2006, 10:36:56 PM
If someone is willing to pay $250 I'll go lol.  My brother knows how bad I wanna go to the game and its killing me that I might not be able to go but I'm still working on it, I've even thought about driving but I don't think I have the energy in me or the patience to do it.  I found a flight that I can take on sat at 6 am so I guess I have then to get the money together or by the time the seats fill up lol but I'm optimistic :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2006, 10:46:12 PM
WC sis
I hope you can make it. I will be here in PA. watching my puter... I look forward to a great game by our Wolverines!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 06, 2006, 10:46:27 PM
Quote from: WCswann28sis on December 06, 2006, 10:36:56 PM
If someone is willing to pay $250 I'll go lol.  My brother knows how bad I wanna go to the game and its killing me that I might not be able to go but I'm still working on it, I've even thought about driving but I don't think I have the energy in me or the patience to do it.  I found a flight that I can take on sat at 6 am so I guess I have then to get the money together or by the time the seats fill up lol but I'm optimistic :D

Come on, you gotta see those baby blue shoes in person, right?  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 06, 2006, 10:53:28 PM
LOL yea thats how I pick him out when I don't know where he is, by his blue bodyliner and his blue tape on his cleats lol gotta make that statement.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2006, 10:55:36 PM
Llama

If I had my druthers I would be there!!! BUT!!!! ;D someone else has a vote .

Now you can tell Olinemom that we really are nice people in Dover! I missed my chance for a brownie though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 06, 2006, 10:59:11 PM
Quote from: WCswann28sis on December 06, 2006, 10:53:28 PM
LOL yea thats how I pick him out when I don't know where he is, by his blue bodyliner and his blue tape on his cleats lol gotta make that statement.

LOL. Yeah I was in the open endzone last week and it made it much easier to keep up with him for me as well. Maybe he should talk B Rob into wearing that get up. The QB would just think he is looking up at the blue sky as he is sacked time after time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 06, 2006, 11:01:56 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2006, 10:55:36 PM
Llama

If I had my druthers I would be there!!! BUT!!!! ;D someone else has a vote .

Now you can tell Olinemom that we really are nice people in Dover! I missed my chance for a brownie though.

Where is the optimism?  ;D
Now you still have a shot at a brownie. One more win and there will be plenty at the Stagg Bowl. She makes double digit pans for each team and covers Stone Station every year. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on December 08, 2006, 09:31:00 AM
I am another Wesley fan when it comes to the Wolverines except when the play Salisbury.  As a fellow ACFC team, I'll be rooting foe the Wolves to complete the job, they started last year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on December 08, 2006, 10:37:53 PM
Good luck to Wesley, represent the ACFC!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 08, 2006, 11:11:05 PM
Just a hunch!!! But today I will be a homer too..

Wesley 27 UW-W 20


Good Luck to the Wolverines. 'Nogh said !!!


REMINDER  The game is going to be webcast look for the details here in the a.m.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Olinemom on December 09, 2006, 01:32:18 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2006, 10:55:36 PM
Llama

If I had my druthers I would be there!!! BUT!!!! ;D someone else has a vote .

Now you can tell Olinemom that we really are nice people in Dover! I missed my chance for a brownie though.
And what is stopping you from coming to the Stagg Bowl and getting some brownies?  It's almost next door to Pennsylvania.  8) 8)  I'm always willing to meet people.  That day last year was a bad one, but that was last year.  Now  since you are missing tomorrow's game, you should have built up some leverage  (dare I say "brownie points"?) to come to the big one.  Most of us are staying at the Quality Inn in Salem which is very inexpensive.  And there are some nice shopping centers there if your better half would care to accompany you as well!!! :) ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 09, 2006, 02:41:14 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 08, 2006, 11:11:05 PM
REMINDER  The game is going to be webcast look for the details here in the a.m.

By that time it will be old news...

http://www.ncaasports.com/broadcast/schedule/champ-audio (http://www.ncaasports.com/broadcast/schedule/champ-audio)

find the links at the bottom of the page!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 09, 2006, 02:43:37 AM
Yep. Except those two links for video are exactly the same, but for two different games. That's why we sent a request to the NCAASports.com folks for a correction and did not bother to post the bad links here.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 09, 2006, 03:10:41 PM
QuoteI know that last year's game wasn't a true representation of your talent... anyways...

ahhhh, I dunno...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 09, 2006, 03:23:00 PM
I don't know wat happend with them today but I still believe.  And I'm really not feeling some of the comments from the commentators  >:(.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 09, 2006, 03:46:40 PM
WE LOVE YOU WESLEY!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 09, 2006, 03:51:01 PM
Aight let's reboot for next year
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 09, 2006, 04:02:56 PM
LOL I keep losing karma hehehe o well  :P
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 09, 2006, 04:25:39 PM
Tough results today for Wesley.  But you got a lot of guys returning...25-3 for the last 2 years is outstanding.  You will be back.  Good luck next year!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SJU09 on December 09, 2006, 05:11:49 PM
38-0 at half, are you kidding me?  How does Wesley come out of the South two years in a row.  Is the South just that  bad? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 09, 2006, 05:28:23 PM
Quote from: SJU09 on December 09, 2006, 05:11:49 PM
38-0 at half, are you kidding me?  How does Wesley come out of the South two years in a row.  Is the South just that  bad? 
No, the South isn't that bad.  The matchups just did not fit.

UMHB held the UW-W offense scoreless in their 7-3 loss.

HSU defeated UW-Stevens Point 49-17.  UW-W only beat UW-SP 31-13.  UW Lacrosse only defeated them 36-14.

HSU defeated Linfield 21-6.

I think that UWW is just in Wesley's head.  SJU's going to Dover would have been a different sitaution, the outcome of which we will never know.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 09, 2006, 06:16:57 PM
Heck of a run again Wesley....Nothing to hang your heads on.  Way to represent the ACFC
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: KitchenSink on December 09, 2006, 06:35:38 PM
Congrats on a darn good season, Wesley.  It was just a day for us cheeseheads.

UWW offense kind of underacheived the last two weeks.  Your guys got caught in a buzzsaw that was on a mission today.

Keep your heads up.  Any time you play into December, that's something to be proud of.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: repete on December 09, 2006, 06:43:55 PM
I don't know RT. Congrats to Wesley on its season. I rarely got to other conference boards after a loss with anything but positives, but yours needed a counterpoint -- no offense toward Wesley intended.

I was prepared to accept that last season's rout might have been non-representative, but UWW easily could have put up 60 plus today. Two years, two games -- 102-13. I don't think the South is bad but it is inconsistent -- going back to BC's 66-0 lost to the eventual Stagg runner-up in 2003.

From what I saw today, there weren't that many matchups that SJU would have had trouble with. And SJU already had done well on the road with two victories over top 10 teams.  Look how SJU held Stanley in check; meanwhile Gearman would have had a field day against the Wesley secondary. But we'll never know.

With a hand from WC11:
West Region in National Semifinals the past 4 years -- two vs. East and two vs. South:

SJU-38   RPI-10
Linfield-52 Rowan-0
Whitewater-58 Wesley-6
Whitewater- 44, Wesley 7
Average score: 48-6
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 09, 2006, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: repete on December 09, 2006, 06:43:55 PM
I don't know RT. Congrats to Wesley on its season. I rarely got to other conference boards after a loss with anything but positives, but yours needed a counterpoint -- no offense toward Wesley intended.

I was prepared to accept that last season's rout might have been non-representative, but UWW easily could have put up 60 plus today. Two years, two games -- 102-13. I don't think the South is bad but it is inconsistent -- going back to BC's 66-0 lost to the eventual Stagg runner-up in 2003.

From what I saw today, there weren't that many matchups that SJU would have had trouble with. And SJU already had done well on the road with two victories over top 10 teams.  Look how SJU held Stanley in check; meanwhile Gearman would have had a field day against the Wesley secondary. But we'll never know.

With a hand from WC11:
West Region in National Semifinals the past 4 years -- two vs. East and two vs. South:

SJU-38   RPI-10
Linfield-52 Rowan-0
Whitewater-58 Wesley-6
Whitewater- 44, Wesley 7
Average score: 48-6
That is why I think the UWW got into Wesley's head.

The West is the strongest and deepest region.  The West is a gauntlet.

MUC keeps interfering with the assessment of anyone else besides MUC and the OAC runner-up.  :D

That SJF team was very effective today.  Had MUC not blocked the FG attempt in the 4th quarter, I think that SJF keeps their momentum and keeps the game even tighter.  I think that the East is a little stronger this year.

The South has changed in this decade.  The ASC still contends, but we knock off our best in the first round. :-\  (Geographic proximity, you know!) HSU and UMHB did not get a breather in the first round to break in their players.  I am not saying that we were better than Wesley.  I just believe that the ASC is perennialy the "must beat" conference in the South.  Give Wesley one more year and that mantle moves to Dover.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2006, 07:15:14 PM
repete

go gloat some place else!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on December 09, 2006, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: repete on December 09, 2006, 06:43:55 PM
I don't know RT. Congrats to Wesley on its season. I rarely got to other conference boards after a loss with anything but positives, but yours needed a counterpoint -- no offense toward Wesley intended.

I was prepared to accept that last season's rout might have been non-representative, but UWW easily could have put up 60 plus today. Two years, two games -- 102-13. I don't think the South is bad but it is inconsistent -- going back to BC's 66-0 lost to the eventual Stagg runner-up in 2003.

From what I saw today, there weren't that many matchups that SJU would have had trouble with. And SJU already had done well on the road with two victories over top 10 teams.  Look how SJU held Stanley in check; meanwhile Gearman would have had a field day against the Wesley secondary. But we'll never know.

With a hand from WC11:
West Region in National Semifinals the past 4 years -- two vs. East and two vs. South:

SJU-38   RPI-10
Linfield-52 Rowan-0
Whitewater-58 Wesley-6
Whitewater- 44, Wesley 7
Average score: 48-6

I agree, the West seems to have been strongest over the past few years, The North is strong but I don't feel it is as strong, even with Mount Union. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: repete on December 09, 2006, 07:41:28 PM
Pa_W,

No gloating. I reluctantly posted here as a response to RT's comment. But while you're here, give me your top 5 with Wesley in it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 09, 2006, 08:18:32 PM
Quote from: repete on December 09, 2006, 07:41:28 PM
Pa_W,

No gloating. I reluctantly posted here as a response to RT's comment. But while you're here, give me your top 5 with Wesley in it.
Let's move this to the Stagg Bowl XXXIV (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4999.msg634330#new) board.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2006, 09:38:00 PM
Great season Wesley Wolverines!!!!!

  Today you came up on the losing end of the score but to your school, your families the community of Dover and the fans you are all winners. You have continued a winning tradition at Wesley. Thanks for another great season .   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 09, 2006, 10:00:46 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 09, 2006, 05:28:23 PM
Quote from: SJU09 on December 09, 2006, 05:11:49 PM
38-0 at half, are you kidding me?  How does Wesley come out of the South two years in a row.  Is the South just that  bad? 
No, the South isn't that bad.  The matchups just did not fit.

UMHB held the UW-W offense scoreless in their 7-3 loss.

HSU defeated UW-Stevens Point 49-17.  UW-W only beat UW-SP 31-13.  UW Lacrosse only defeated them 36-14.

HSU defeated Linfield 21-6.

I think that UWW is just in Wesley's head.  SJU's going to Dover would have been a different sitaution, the outcome of which we will never know.

Ralph - My feeling is that comparing scores from these early season games is not a valid way to explain what happened today. Apples and oranges.  I'll stick to the proverb, what have you done for me lately?  All the teams changed in their dynamics throughtout the season.  Whitewater beat LaX 45-10 in the regular season then barely got by in round 2 for example.  It doesn't mean Whitewater is a worse team or LaX is better, it's just different circumstances.  Plus, only two of them were still playing today. The others, well...
I do agree with one thing you said, there are a lot of outcomes which we will never know.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on December 09, 2006, 10:54:10 PM
PA_Wesleyfan:

Great season for the Wolverines, and thanks for representing the ACFC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2006, 12:41:02 AM
UMHB/UWW was in Week 9, not early in the season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: repete on December 22, 2006, 12:41:31 PM
Wow this board is dead .... here's a Wash Post story with Wesley connections. Merry Christmas.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/21/AR2006122101569.html
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 22, 2006, 05:51:07 PM
Ernie is a good guy. There are a few ex-players and coaches around that have gone thru Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 24, 2006, 10:24:22 PM
 Everyone have Happy :D and safe ;D holiday season
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 31, 2006, 08:38:37 PM
Happy New Year to all
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 11, 2007, 06:17:15 PM
 Interesting reading for Wesley fans
http://www.newszap.com/dm/central_delaware/
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 11, 2007, 11:08:46 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on January 11, 2007, 06:17:15 PM
Interesting reading for Wesley fans
http://www.newszap.com/dm/central_delaware/
Oh, wow!   :(  It looks really bad for Head Coach Mike Drass.

This Adamo fellow (http://www.newszap.com/articles/2007/01/10/dm/sussex_county/sports/dsnsp01.txt) has already doomed the tenures of the head coaches at Prairie View A&M and FAMU!   :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 12, 2007, 06:12:32 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 11, 2007, 11:08:46 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on January 11, 2007, 06:17:15 PM
Interesting reading for Wesley fans
http://www.newszap.com/dm/central_delaware/
Oh, wow!   :(  It looks really bad for Head Coach Mike Drass.

This Adamo fellow (http://www.newszap.com/articles/2007/01/10/dm/sussex_county/sports/dsnsp01.txt) has already doomed the tenures of the head coaches at Prairie View A&M and FAMU!   :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

   Geesh Ralph!!!!! I didn't see that !!! LOL!!!

Third time might be the CHARM!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on January 18, 2007, 11:28:02 PM
Testing 1...2.....3

Oooooooh the dog days of winter...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 19, 2007, 04:31:20 PM
More the puppy days in Upstate NY so far pg!!! No snow yet?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 25, 2007, 05:31:34 PM
Another nice article from Dover
http://www.newszap.com/articles/2007/01/23/dm/central_delaware/sports/dsnsp03.txt
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on February 11, 2007, 04:10:48 PM
Looks like Huntingdon has posted a tentative schedule for 2007. Definitely had to search far and wide for games after losing the SCAC teams from the schedule. Looks like 6 region games so far. Hopefully that 'TBA' on 11/10 means a fifth home game is in the works. Maybe it will be a 7th region game.

9/1           McMurry University (TX)             Samford Stadium       1:00 p.m. CDT
9/8           U. Wisconsin-Oshkosh (WI)      Samford Stadium         1:00 p.m. CDT
9/15         Maryville College (TN)               Maryville, TN              TBA
9/22         Adrian College (MI)                   Adrian, MI                  12:00 p.m. EDT
9/29         Wesley College (DE)                 Dover, Delaware         TBA
10/6         SUNY Maritime College (NY)      Samford Stadium         1:00 p.m. CDT
10/13       Faulkner University (AL)            Samford Stadium         1:00 p.m. CDT
10/20       OPEN
10/27       LaGrange College (GA)              LaGrange, GA             TBA
11/3         Hampden-Sydney College (VA) Hampden-Sydney, VA   1:00 p.m. EDT
11/10       TBA                                            Samford Stadium     1:00 p.m. CDT
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 11, 2007, 10:58:57 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 11, 2007, 04:10:48 PM
Looks like Huntingdon has posted a tentative schedule for 2007. Definitely had to search far and wide for games after losing the SCAC teams from the schedule. Looks like 6 region games so far. Hopefully that 'TBA' on 11/10 means a fifth home game is in the works. Maybe it will be a 7th region game.

9/1           McMurry University (TX)*             Samford Stadium       1:00 p.m. CDT
9/8           U. Wisconsin-Oshkosh (WI)      Samford Stadium         1:00 p.m. CDT
9/15         Maryville College (TN)*               Maryville, TN              TBA
9/22         Adrian College (MI)*                  Adrian, MI                  12:00 p.m. EDT
9/29         Wesley College (DE)*                 Dover, Delaware         TBA
10/6         SUNY Maritime College (NY)      Samford Stadium         1:00 p.m. CDT
10/13       Faulkner University (AL) (NAIA)        Samford Stadium         1:00 p.m. CDT
10/20       OPEN
10/27       LaGrange College (GA)*              LaGrange, GA             TBA
11/3         Hampden-Sydney College (VA)* Hampden-Sydney, VA   1:00 p.m. EDT
11/10       TBA                                            Samford Stadium     1:00 p.m. CDT

Good schedule, Hawks!  I have asterisked the in-region games!

The Faulkner game is against the cross town rival that is starting its program this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 11, 2007, 11:27:29 PM
Current South Region teams with open dates on Nov 10 are Carnegie-Mellon, Gallaudet, Washington and Lee and Thiel.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 11, 2007, 11:42:40 PM
Ralph

I believe Wesley only has 9 opponents to date. Unfortunately I won't get my May update at the Wesley golf outing because my son is getting married. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on February 12, 2007, 09:04:47 AM
Wesley has 9 right now and is still looking to pick one up. Chowan dropped them for a money game against a 1-a or 1-aa team this year.

Added for 07: Delaware Valley, Widener, A team from the south (not released yet)

Off from 06: Averrett, Waynesburg, Seton Hill, Chowan

Same from 06: conference games (4), Morrisville, Huntington
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 12, 2007, 10:42:48 PM
Conrad

  What are the prospects of getting a 10th game scheduled? I know there are teams looking for games but not all of them are willing to play Wesley ;D

   As I posted earlier we won't be down for the annual outing in May, The boy is getting married, Yeah third time better be a charm!!!! ::) So you will have to keep me up to date on the ins!!!

 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on February 14, 2007, 07:14:50 PM
Huntingdon folks

several questions:

i had heard huntingdon was trying to join a league for football...any movement on that ?

the schedule that has been posted on this board... i can not find it on the huntindon web site.... where did u get it and how reliable?

the new coach that played at AU/Troy and NFL... will he coach the DL ?

the schedule had an open date at the end in nov... any ideas on who they will fill it with or if it will remain open ?

thanks in advance
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 14, 2007, 09:58:18 PM
Hawks has been a reliable poster in the time that I have followed him, and I can vouch for the McMurry game on Sept 1st.

Huntingdon's joining the ACFC would not give the ACFC an Automatic Bid, but would secure another opponent. However, Huntingdon could get all 4-5 games, if they wanted them and not join that conference, IMHO. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on February 14, 2007, 10:24:55 PM
The HC schedule is at football.huntingdon.edu (http://football.huntingdon.edu) not the school's main site. Not sure who does this other site but I am pretty sure it is someone in the athletic department. I don't know what, if anything, is happening as far as getting into a conference. With that week eleven listed as TBA I don't know if that means there is something actually in the works or if they are still just hoping to find something.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on February 14, 2007, 10:44:15 PM
Hawks 88

thanks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on February 15, 2007, 09:04:19 AM
Hawks 88

in our area (auburn opelika) Huntingdon got commitments from several area all-stars, OL from opelika high school and chambers academy, LB from smith station, DL / LS from chambers academy, RB's from lee scott academy, & auburn high, and a tight end from talleessee high... all were either allstar or honorable mention for this 4 county area (18 highschools)

also read in the montgomery paper where one of pratvilles LB's and the qb from lowndes academy (state runner up) and wide reciever from autauga academy (state champ) had commited to huntingdon.
montgomery paper quoted coach turk as saying "he believed this is his best recruiting class so far"... and that is  with both faulkner and birmingham southern starting up

any news u got would b appreciated
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on February 15, 2007, 10:28:05 AM
Looks like you have more than I do, AF4. About all I know is what is in the Montgomery paper. There was a piece several weeks ago about a DL and DB from Pike County that were considering Huntingdon. We already had a freshman cornerback from there this past year that looked really good. Maybe he can get his buddies to follow him up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on February 15, 2007, 12:44:48 PM

i am  pretty sure i'm the least knowledgable... i found the web site u mentioned...awesome

is there a huntingdon sports blog or forum elsewhere... such as this one ?

thanks... and ...uh... Go Hawks

(i am  trying to replace my wife and my 'how bout them dawgs', and my 2 older daughters and thier spouses  'war eagle'... with my son's..in the fall..Go Hawks)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 15, 2007, 02:29:07 PM
After serious consideration of the problem at hand,  I have no trouble saying "War Eagle" and "Go McMurry" in the same breath.

I see no conflict of interest in "Go Hawks" and "War Eagle"! :)

I definitely believe that you need to replace your "How 'bout them dawgs".  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on February 15, 2007, 05:43:40 PM
Yeah, that "Go Hawks"/"War Eagle" combination works around my house, which should give you  my opinion of "them dawgs"(I assume that's Georgia you're talking about or is it Opelika?). ;)
Anyways, welcome to Post Patterns, AF4. It will be nice to have another Huntingdon poster around here. Get's lonely sometimes.  :)
As far as other blogs or forums to talk HC sports, you've pretty much found the only spot here.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on February 16, 2007, 07:54:50 PM
Hawks88

UGA......... not opelika dawgs

i spent the final 4 yrs of my schooling in athens, ga... so i could spend the past 26 yrs feeding my family by putting my left arm in the fannies of horses and cows to see if they r pregnant...and other such thangs

many of the folks i work for went to auburn, as did our girls

but the 'boy' is gonna b a 'Hawk'

so.... Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 16, 2007, 08:33:12 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 14, 2007, 10:24:55 PM
With that week eleven listed as TBA I don't know if that means there is something actually in the works or if they are still just hoping to find something.

Coach Turk e-mailed a couple weeks ago to update their Open Dates listings on the site and asked us to leave Week 11 up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on February 25, 2007, 09:13:27 PM
Hawks 88

u were correct... the schedule u posted is now on the huntindon athletic web site ...... looks like only 9 varsity games

thanks

go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 27, 2007, 04:36:41 PM
Congrats to Wesley's Chris Warrick being named E.C.A.C. player of the year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 13, 2007, 03:34:04 PM
Congratulations to Huntingdon and LaGrange for landing in a conference with an AQ bid!

That is great long-term news for the development of the conference.

The terms seem like a win-win for everyone, especially if HC and Lagrange are willing to travel.  And it seems that they are.  They would have had to travel anywhere they were going to land.  I believe that the SLAIC is a good mission/vision match and a great place to develop a successful football program.  Competitive teams and access to the playoffs is critical in D3.

This effectively seals off the Deep South to expansion for the ACFC.  My crystal ball suggests that the Capital AC is the key for the ACFC teams in the South and for Brockport to end up in the NJAC. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 13, 2007, 04:50:47 PM
Ralph

I thought that Huntington might be thinking of a ACFC affiliation but thats a long bus ride to Dover, Salisbury and Frostburg not to leave out Brockport or NNA. Also the league doesn't have the perks for a team to join other than guaranteeing themself a set few teams to play. I hope this doesn't effect Wesley's shcedule game with Huntington this year. They are still looking to fill out their schedule last I saw and lost Waynesburg's commitment for similar reasons thi season
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on March 13, 2007, 06:48:10 PM
Great news for the middle of the off season!! I'm pumped. Can't wait for 2010 and getting to fight for the AQ.
According to the article, conference play starts in 2008, so I don't think it will affect this year's schedules. Hopefully I'm not wrong as I have been looking forward to Huntingdon's rematch with Wesley this year. Who knows, maybe both schools can find a way to keep the match-up going in the future.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 13, 2007, 08:32:30 PM
Hawks, this sets up an interesting dynamic for 2008 and 2009.  HC will still be Pool B, but Pool B will have changed by a considerable number.

In the East, I count 5 schools:  Becker, Brockport Maritime, Husson, Mt Ida.
South:  7; Huntingdon, LaGrange, Salisbury, Frostburg, Wesley, Carnegie-Mellon, Wash StL.  (The Pres AC is Pool A in 2007.)
North: 8; Case Western, Chicago, SLIAC 6.
West:  4; Chapman, Macalester, Maranatha Baptist, Martin Luther.  (The Northwest Conference is Pool A in 2008; Colorado College is in the SCAC in 2007.)

The question that I have is whether the Northern Athletics Conference, which should get Pool A bids in soccer, basketball, baseball and softball in 2008-09, gets a Pool A bid in their first year of football.  If I remember correctly (IIRC), the Dixie IAC got a Pool A bid their first year to offer football.  If that is the case, then the NAthCon 7 (Aurora, Benedictine, Concordia IL, Concordia WI, Lakeland, Rockford and Wisconsin Lutheran) would have a Pool A bid instead of a Pool B bid.

(I wonder if the NAthCon offers affiliates to the UMAC.)

With the Northwest Conference and the Presidents AC going to Pool A, this leaves a weaker Pool B.  I think that HC and LG have a chance, especially as those Jawjans become juniors and seniors.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on March 13, 2007, 09:25:29 PM
Hey AF4,

Looks like you got that conference deal done pretty quick. Congrats!  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on March 14, 2007, 12:36:59 PM
Here's today's Montgomery Advertiser article (http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070314/SPORTS/703140377/1002)  . Funny that we now have 12 games for 2008. Gonna have to rearrange some things there. One of the best things is that now Coach Turk can give attention to other things besides trying to fill a schedule.

One question for the experts, will these conference games be considered region games in '08 and '09 before the AQ kicks in '10?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 14, 2007, 01:08:11 PM
Hawks, I believe that they are in-region in 2008.

That gives a very good Pool B schedule.

You can find some good South Region or Adminstrative Region #3 schools to fill the schedule!

I think that this is a win-win-win.  The Illini-Badger Conference schools who were left behind wanted a Pool A bid.  One trip per year to the South will be a good experience for those kids.

I was a history minor in school.  There is too much history that these kids should see.

They should see Selma and Montgomery.  They should go to Warm Springs, GA.  Those are important locations to visit.

You have 3 non-conference dates:  Birmingham-Southern? Maryville TN?  Sewanee?  Rhodes?  Even NAIA Faulkner as a crosstown rival.

This is great for HC and LaGrange!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 14, 2007, 01:30:53 PM
I wouldn't be so sure about in-region. Guess we'll see.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 14, 2007, 04:41:13 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 14, 2007, 01:30:53 PM
I wouldn't be so sure about in-region. Guess we'll see.
The SLIAC teams are in a different adminstrative region than HC and LG.  Already, HC and LG get to play teams in their adminstrative region (#3)

It would actually be to Huntingdon's and LaGrange's advantage to be moved to the "North" or the "West"  Region, wherever the SLIAC is located.

Oh my, what did I say!  :o

Oh well, if the Dallas Cowboys can be in the NFL East, then I guess that HC and LG can be in the West.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on March 14, 2007, 06:00:32 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 14, 2007, 04:41:13 PM
The SLIAC teams are in a different adminstrative region than HC and LG.  Already, HC and LG get to play teams in their adminstrative region (#3)

It would actually be to Huntingdon's and LaGrange's advantage to be moved to the "North" or the "West"  Region, wherever the SLIAC is located.

Oh my, what did I say!  :o

Oh well, if the Dallas Cowboys can be in the NFL East, then I guess that HC and LG can be in the West.


Or maybe they could swap the SLIAC from north to south and the PAC from south to north since having Pennsylvania schools in the south seems funny too.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on March 15, 2007, 02:03:35 AM
the scac schools appear un interested in  huntingdon anymore, B'ham southern says (or so a couple coaches on both sides told me) that they were not planning on playing huntingdon until 2010

faulkner (NAIA) will buid a pretty good team quicky, i thank they will b pretty good this first yr..... i just hope we can beat them

as far as the St louis/badger kids coming to the DEEP south to visit warm springs and selma/montgomery... that would be good... as it would b good for our kids to visit thangs above the mason - dixon.....(i thought the mason dixon ran through chattanooga....i no thangs begin to change the further from nooga i get )

the word i get about this conference change is excitement at huntingdon... Hawkes88 would have a better handle on that, but i do no the boy that looks like me, but a lot bigger and younger, is real excited

llama guy.... good to see hero... cuse u r there i,m gonna follow bridgewater this yr



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 20, 2007, 02:06:16 PM
With the movement of Brockport and SUNY-Morrisville to the NJAC, and Huntingdon and LaGrange moving to the SLIAC, do we have any rumors of the next move by the ACFC?

The only remaining independents in the eastern half of the US in 2008 will be the ACFC members (Wesley, Salisbury and Frostburg plus NNA), Becker, Husson and Mt Ida and SUNY Maritime.

The consolidation continues. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 20, 2007, 05:01:05 PM
Ralph

I don't know but with Wesley already looking to fill this years schedule maybe there is something cooking in the Capitol Conference in the very near future. Unless the MAC wants Wesley and Salisbury and Frostburg moving westerly.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on March 23, 2007, 10:05:25 PM
Seems like the ACFC is on it's deathbed right now.  Does the Capitol Conference do football only members because I have a hard time seeing us leaving the AMCC since we were a founding member.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 23, 2007, 11:46:14 PM
FSU

The opinion on the boards is that the Capitol could opt that way as Salisbury and Wesley as well as Galludet will have football and Villa Julia is thinking of starting a team.. But it probably isn't going to happen in the next year... So all of the ACFC schools will have a challenge to fill out schedules.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 24, 2007, 01:08:41 AM
Quote from: FSU Bobcats on March 23, 2007, 10:05:25 PM
Seems like the ACFC is on it's deathbed right now.  Does the Capitol Conference do football only members because I have a hard time seeing us leaving the AMCC since we were a founding member.
FSU Bobcats, I think that there is a very good chance that you are at the table as a "charter affiliate" for any discussions that the Capital may have.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on March 24, 2007, 11:48:46 AM
That's good to hear.  Like I said, I don't see us leaving the AMCC because of the strong regional rivals we've developed.  The only way I could see us leaving the AMCC is if we desired to expand our rivalry with Salisbury.  Come to think of it, what wouldn't be a bad thing if we decided to go that way. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 24, 2007, 08:54:31 PM
I don't know if that's a particularly strong reading of the situation. Frostburg is isolated in the AMCC and incurs a ton of travel to be in that league. You have to travel more than 300 miles to do the Medaille/Hilbert trip.

Frostburg wanted to be in the CAC in the mid-'90s but wasn't invited. While the leadership of both groups has changed since then, I would bet there's still a desire to be in the league. Sure, it's a long way to Salisbury but Frostburg is already playing their in-state rivals in just about everything anyway.

Ponder this CAC:
East: Wesley, Salisbury, York, Villa Julie, St. Mary's
West: Frostburg, Marymount, Mary Washington, Hood, Gallaudet

150 miles to Mary Washington, 99 miles to Hood, 142 to Marymount, 144 miles to Gallaudet

Did I get everyone? Think so.

That's a pretty good fit, and I believe even with the other nine schools the CAC may not have enough for an automatic bid in every sport. Frostburg can help the CAC meet that goal.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 25, 2007, 12:31:15 AM
Looks good Pat.

Capital AC sponsors these sports.
Field hockey:  Minus CUA and GOU; FSU would replace one.
Softball:  Minus CUA: FSU has it.
Women's lacrosse:  CUA and GOU are leaving; FSU has a team.  Do they add a men's team?

FSU is isolated in the AMCC as well.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 25, 2007, 09:31:22 PM
Just a thought on the CAC... Frostburg apparently was interested in reapplying for membership, but wanted to wait out getting their new president and letting that person make the decision. I don't know if that might hurt them as everyone deals with the recent shake-ups.

Seconldy, they would have to come in as a full-member - as indicated. They would not be able to come in as a part-timer, since the CAC by-laws don't allow it (unless those are changed!).

As much bring Frostburg into the equation is... I don't think its going to be a simple one.

Also, I realize the list you put up there Pat may not have counted as only football based, but of the schools you mentioned in the ten possible in a bigger CAC, six of them would have to add football programs (granted, not all of them would for AQ reasons, I realize). I see that problematic for a school like Marymount (facilities... don't even have any for the programs they have). I know VJC has thought about it, but my read from them is that isn't in the immediate future. As for SMC, UMW, Hood and others... I could see them adding the sport, but at a slower pace. And Gallaudet may have a varsity program now... but their accreditation is up for debate and a lot of CAC schools have not been happy with the goings on at that campus. There has been speculation about punting them out of the CAC - don't know if that will happen though.

Of course... with the way things are working and changing these days in this "region"... anything is possible!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 25, 2007, 09:37:34 PM
I don't think anyone was proposing all 10 CAC teams add football.

If enough schools want bylaws changed, it could certainly happen, I would think. You need to have four full members in order to add single-sport members to reach automatic bid status. However, with the unsure footing of Gallaudet football, the CAC would really need five full members.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on March 30, 2007, 10:07:53 PM
Interesting stuff guys.  Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 30, 2007, 10:18:22 PM
Wesley posted their 2007, 9 game schedule. Looks like 6 regional games.
Not a cake walk for sure. Bad news is they probably lose two of these games next year. Maybe something will come up with the C.A.C. will get tougher and tougher to fill a schedule

1 Saturday North Carolina Wesleyan Home 1:00 

8 Saturday Delaware Valley Home 1:00 

14 Saturday Widener University Away 7:00   
22 Saturday TBA     

29 Saturday Huntingdon College Home 1:00   
October
6 Saturday Frostburg State University Home 1:00 

13 Saturday Newport News Away 1:00 

20 Saturday SUNY Brockport Away 1:00 

27 Saturday Salisbury University Home 1:00 

November
3 Saturday TBA     

10 Saturday SUNY Morrisville Away 1:00
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 30, 2007, 11:52:05 PM
Brockport and Morrisville will be gone.  There may be some openings in the MAC.  Huntingdon may not have to travel to Wesley.

The ASC precursor (the Texas Intercollegiate AA) played double round robin in the late 1980's and early 1990's. :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on April 02, 2007, 08:25:41 AM
Nice opener for Wesley....NCWC is definitely a tough bunch to start with.
Interesting all of their conference games are in the month of October
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 02, 2007, 04:19:17 PM
sid
Whats the word now that those two are going to the NJAC???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on April 03, 2007, 09:44:11 PM
Yah it does seem like a good test for Wesley. I don't think that they are going to be a depauw or a Waynesburg. Just a thought they might be tell me what you think about this comparison. Yes i also realize the difficulty for Wesley to get top notch opponents, hopefully that will change in years to come.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on April 03, 2007, 09:58:01 PM
Hopefully Wesley will be able to obtain one more opponent so they can have ten games and not nine.  Just the same problem they have every year maybe they will get a game closer than indiana, Maine, Alabama, or even somewhere in the midwest.  At least maybe we can see our kids play more games, some of us can't travel that far.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Highlander on April 03, 2007, 10:35:05 PM
I know that Wesley has been a national power of late, yet I believe that NCWC will be a great test for both of these teams. NCWC has athletes all over the field, led by their QB. Last season they had a coming out party of sorts as they were able to beat conf. power CNU.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 03, 2007, 10:40:37 PM
24

Last year was a gift for home games for Wesley... It doesn't always pan out to have all those games... I don't think you will see a tenth game at this point unless
someone comes knocking... I think in the late 90's they had only nine games twice.

N.C Wesleyan played a tough schedule last year so they are battle tested BUT that being said , they haven't played in the Wolverine's DEN yet!!!  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on April 03, 2007, 11:04:53 PM
I agree i also remember that a certain team from texas came up and though they showed their poise and ability to not be startled some how i have to think that even they didn't account for the fans and the adrenaline that the players feed off from with the big hits and the loud croud.  But i guess same could be said for Whitewater.  Good teams always come up with incredible fans that fully back their teams.  But hey who would have known Wesley would have won 25 of 28 games over the past 2 years.  (I did)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 08, 2007, 10:13:08 AM
Wesley got some good news from the ncaa,  D-lineman Justin Strickland was given another year of eligibilty.

http://www.newszap.com/articles/2007/04/07/dm/central_delaware/sports/dsnsp02.txt
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on April 25, 2007, 09:29:51 AM
Just a note regarding the front page story about the draft. My son plays at Salisbury and he said that Byron Westbrook is Brian's brother, not his cousin. Anyway good luck to any player hoping to continue their career playing the game. Does anyone have any thoughts or heard anything at all about the future of the ACFC? With Brockport leaving and Morrisville deciding to not join, and Buff State's departure last year, it seems that the remaining conference members will struggle to fill 10 games. Looking forward to Albright in September! Go Gulls
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on May 08, 2007, 11:05:46 AM
Salisbury's Byron Westbrook in Washington Redskins camp.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=3141



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on May 16, 2007, 03:32:11 PM
Salisbury's Byron Westbrook signed a free agent contract with the Washington Redskins.
Title: Trey Blackmon
Post by: maconfootballobserver on May 16, 2007, 09:57:17 PM
I was told today by a knowledgeable source that Trey Blackmon, recently of Auburn University, and the number 1 ranked linebacker prospect in the country in 2004-05 had enrolled at LaGrange College following his recent suspension from Auburn and would be playing for LaGrange in the Fall.  Has anyone heard this and can either confirm or deny.
Title: Re: Trey Blackmon
Post by: Hawks88 on May 17, 2007, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: maconfootballobserver on May 16, 2007, 09:57:17 PM
I was told today by a knowledgeable source that Trey Blackmon, recently of Auburn University, and the number 1 ranked linebacker prospect in the country in 2004-05 had enrolled at LaGrange College following his recent suspension from Auburn and would be playing for LaGrange in the Fall.  Has anyone heard this and can either confirm or deny.

Not true according to this (http://www.al.com/sports/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/sports/1179393321245160.xml&coll=3).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: maconfootballobserver on May 17, 2007, 02:06:03 PM
Thanks for the link hawks88
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 25, 2007, 07:09:59 PM
Conrad!!!!!

Montclair has an open date now on Sept 22 what do you think the chances of Welsey picking them up??

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on June 02, 2007, 12:51:09 PM
After celebrating their 7th National Championship in lacrosse, Salisbury has ripped up the grass and has begun installing a new turf field at Seagull Stadium.  Now they need to focus on the rest of the stadium.  Bring on September 1st.!! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 02, 2007, 01:53:40 PM
  Bigtoe

You're going to love wathing a game on that surface. Watch for the streamers comong off the shoes til the beads settle.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on June 02, 2007, 05:12:47 PM
PA wesleyfan,

Can't wait to come down to the old place and also see the new field. I hope we can hold our own with Wesley.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 02, 2007, 05:22:01 PM
 Wesley has a lot back including Clarke who I believe is a grad student.  Just need a new field leader and a tweek here and there
  You'll like the field. Visitor side is bigger. The place was packed most home games last year. The new score board is big and readable. It is quite the palace compared to the quagmire it once was. No MORE MUD

  Ram
What years was your daughter at Wesley 1999 and 2000? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on June 02, 2007, 07:37:20 PM
PA wesleyfan,

September 2000 thru the end of the 1st semester 2001. 2000 was the trip to Trintity and 2001 was the B-Port loss. Many good memories and a few not so good.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on June 04, 2007, 08:19:05 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 25, 2007, 07:09:59 PM
Conrad!!!!!

Montclair has an open date now on Sept 22 what do you think the chances of Welsey picking them up??



Pretty Good.

From what I have heard that game is going to happen. Montclair will be traveling to Wesley on September 22. That is also race weekend in Dover.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wc-alum on June 04, 2007, 04:33:28 PM
Hey everyone,
i am excited to see wesley playing a tougher schedule this year than those previous but do you think 11 games is a good thing?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 04, 2007, 08:30:40 PM
they will drop the George Mason game.. They are a club team and the starters wouldn't be playing much
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 04, 2007, 11:26:08 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on June 04, 2007, 08:30:40 PM
they will drop the George Mason game.. They are a club team and the starters wouldn't be playing much
They can probably use the George Mason date as a JV date.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on June 05, 2007, 08:42:53 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 04, 2007, 11:26:08 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on June 04, 2007, 08:30:40 PM
they will drop the George Mason game.. They are a club team and the starters wouldn't be playing much
They can probably use the George Mason date as a JV date.

It will be a JV game. Wesley has had Mason on its JV schedule since the mid 90s. The last two years they have used the game as their opening scrimmage in August.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on June 06, 2007, 01:36:06 PM
I see Frostburg has released its 2007 schedule and recruits this past week.

http://sports.frostburg.edu/teams/fall/football/index.cfm

Nine games, only three at home.  Four games in a row on the road to start the season.

Regents game vs Salisbury will move to the Naval Academy. Does that mean they are playing at Navy-Marine Corps Stadium?

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 06, 2007, 01:45:41 PM
Worse news. Waynesburg thinks it is playing Geneva on Nov. 3, not Frostburg State.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on June 06, 2007, 01:57:43 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 06, 2007, 01:45:41 PM
Worse news. Waynesburg thinks it is playing Geneva on Nov. 3, not Frostburg State.

I noticed that the Geneva/Waynesburg kickoff is slated for 6:30 p.m. Maybe the Jackets want to play two in one day. :D

Does Geneva start D-III play this year and when will they compete for a PAC championship?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on June 06, 2007, 05:13:05 PM
That Regent's Cup game between SU and Frostburg is indeed at Navy-Marine Corps Stadium.  The atmosphere of that facility will be great, even if our crowd doesn't make it feel very full. I'm sure both teams are looking forward to playing there. No flyover though, unless someone brings a kite. From what I hear from the current players this will probably be the last year for this game to be held on a neutral site. They plan on a alternating Salisbury home/Frostburg home program in the future. Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on June 07, 2007, 07:41:56 AM
Quote from: SU Backer on June 06, 2007, 05:13:05 PM
That Regent's Cup game between SU and Frostburg is indeed at Navy-Marine Corps Stadium.  The atmosphere of that facility will be great, even if our crowd doesn't make it feel very full. I'm sure both teams are looking forward to playing there. No flyover though, unless someone brings a kite. From what I hear from the current players this will probably be the last year for this game to be held on a neutral site. They plan on a alternating Salisbury home/Frostburg home program in the future. Go Gulls!

It is a great place to see a game. I saw Delaware upset Navy there in '04. Great atmosphere and tradition. Too bad they can't get the Middies to march in before the game. It should be part the usage fee for the stadium.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on June 11, 2007, 07:14:16 PM
PA_wesleyfan,

On Sept 22nd there is the Busch 200, and on Sept 23rd the Nextel 400. How do you get to Dover. When my daughter went there you could not get in or out of town. I could work a business trip ending in Del on Friday. What do you suggest. How could anyone get there on a Saturday. Thanks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 11, 2007, 08:04:10 PM
Fly from Washington on Air Force One. I hear it's been done. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 11, 2007, 10:02:36 PM
RT 15 It's a wiggle rd but ... It's a way
I learned right away .. I bought a Del . map and used every rd in the state. Remember RT 1 didn' topen til 97 or 98.. 13 was backed all fall with shore traffic and I always managed to get to the RR about the time the freight train was hitting Del city.

I will post better and different ways later when I get to look at my maps
Quote from: rams1102 on June 11, 2007, 07:14:16 PM
PA_wesleyfan,

On Sept 22nd there is the Busch 200, and on Sept 23rd the Nextel 400. How do you get to Dover. When my daughter went there you could not get in or out of town. I could work a business trip ending in Del on Friday. What do you suggest. How could anyone get there on a Saturday. Thanks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on June 19, 2007, 09:53:42 AM
FYI for Salisbury fans...

Since St. Peter's dropped its Division I-A football program, Salisbury has replaced the Peacocks with Geneva College (http://www.d3football.com/school_info.php?school=Geneva&year=2007) on October 6.  It's a road game at 6 pm in Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania (30 minutes north of Pittsburgh).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on June 19, 2007, 08:59:49 PM
Gordon,

Good info and good for Salisbury.

Any Ideas on how to get to the MSU - Wesley game during race weekend?

I can arrange a business trip to end Friday night near Dover, but can you get in and get to the game on Sat?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on June 20, 2007, 08:59:36 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on June 19, 2007, 08:59:49 PM
Gordon,

Good info and good for Salisbury.

Any Ideas on how to get to the MSU - Wesley game during race weekend?

I can arrange a business trip to end Friday night near Dover, but can you get in and get to the game on Sat?

You shouldn't have too many problems navigating in and out of Dover if you come in on Friday. The traffic is the worst right before the race (Busch) on Saturday and right after it ends. The problem you may have is finding a hotel room on Friday night. You should probably book one now. Once you know that, I can help navigate the side streets to get to the field.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on June 20, 2007, 09:04:34 PM
Quote from: Conrad on June 20, 2007, 08:59:36 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on June 19, 2007, 08:59:49 PM
Gordon,

Good info and good for Salisbury.

Any Ideas on how to get to the MSU - Wesley game during race weekend?

I can arrange a business trip to end Friday night near Dover, but can you get in and get to the game on Sat?

Thanks, I will try to book a room tomorrow.

You shouldn't have too many problems navigating in and out of Dover if you come in on Friday. The traffic is the worst right before the race (Busch) on Saturday and right after it ends. The problem you may have is finding a hotel room on Friday night. You should probably book one now. Once you know that, I can help navigate the side streets to get to the field.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on June 21, 2007, 01:05:50 PM
Conrad,

The best I could do was to book a room at the Red Roof in Wilmington, DE. That should be about 40 miles from Wesley. When the time is right, I would appreciate some help navigating. Thanks !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 21, 2007, 04:37:01 PM
Ram

   We'll get you there.. Conrad knows names of roads better than I..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on June 21, 2007, 09:03:15 PM
Gordon Mann:

Thanks for the info on Salisbury's schedule change.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on June 21, 2007, 11:14:15 PM
Looks like good news from Huntingdon! They just announced a new updated schedule (http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football/schedule_and_scores) with ten games and five at home by adding a game with future conference foe Westminster(MO).

Just 71 days until football!!

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on June 27, 2007, 07:32:06 PM
Hawks88

did u notice that the huntingdon band had almost doubled in size from last yr

they had ~36 folks, but expect  ~70 in the fall (including color guard etc)

Go Hawks ! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on June 27, 2007, 08:52:36 PM
Yep,I saw that, AF4. Here's the article (http://www.huntingdon.edu/news/archive/2007/jun/06_21_07_band) for anyone interested.
I also noticed something that might be odd about HC's schedule but am not sure how unique it might be. Anybody know when was the last time someone had games against ten teams from ten different states? I'm not even sure how you could check that.
Oh well, 65 days 'til football!!

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 03, 2007, 04:52:10 PM
http://www.athletics.wesley.edu/football.html

wesley posted it's incoming recruits 90 total . put s 170 in camp
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on July 03, 2007, 06:27:46 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 03, 2007, 04:52:10 PM
http://www.athletics.wesley.edu/football.html

wesley posted it's incoming recruits 90 total . put s 170 in camp

Very impressive. How many points are you guys going to spot us when we get there on race weekend? ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 03, 2007, 11:46:22 PM
got to earn em Ram

Looks like Wesley did very well in Pa and NJ.. The QB from North Penn Pa is a good one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on July 04, 2007, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 03, 2007, 11:46:22 PM
got to earn em Ram

Looks like Wesley did very well in Pa and NJ.. The QB from North Penn Pa is a good one.

I do some business in PA and when I drive by North Penn I'm always impressed with it's size. When I saw the QB on the list 6-5 190# I said to myself this could be the starter for the next 3-4 years. Put on some bulk and there you go. Was this kid the starter last year? You would think he would go D2 or higher. I guess Drass is a pretty good recruiter.

Happy July 4th To Everyone  !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 04, 2007, 12:34:05 PM
ram

North Penn won't build a second high school they continue to add on where as Cent Bucks now has Three High Schools... They had a Board Pres who once decreed that they wanrted to have the best sports team in the state. OH and that "Pres was a woman
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on July 05, 2007, 01:19:03 PM
I booked a room in Wilmington, DE this morning for the night of 9-21 for the 9-22 Montclair - Wesley game. I just got on the D3 site and the schedules show it is now a Montclair home game. The Wesley web site confirms this, but not the Montclair web site. Can anyone confirm or deny.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 05, 2007, 04:04:03 PM
ram

maybe Conrad can .try to get to him thru the users page. I will try and find out next week for you.. I am heading north for a few days so I won't be able tpo get you an answer 'til wednesday!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 05, 2007, 07:22:21 PM
RAM
I just checked the schedule on the Wesley football site and it has the game in Dover
Quote from: rams1102 on July 05, 2007, 01:19:03 PM
I booked a room in Wilmington, DE this morning for the night of 9-21 for the 9-22 Montclair - Wesley game. I just got on the D3 site and the schedules show it is now a Montclair home game. The Wesley web site confirms this, but not the Montclair web site. Can anyone confirm or deny.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on July 05, 2007, 07:57:35 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 05, 2007, 07:22:21 PM
RAM
I just checked the schedule on the Wesley football site and it has the game in Dover
Quote from: rams1102 on July 05, 2007, 01:19:03 PM
I booked a room in Wilmington, DE this morning for the night of 9-21 for the 9-22 Montclair - Wesley game. I just got on the D3 site and the schedules show it is now a Montclair home game. The Wesley web site confirms this, but not the Montclair web site. Can anyone confirm or deny.

I haven't heard anything about the site being changed. I'll let you know if I hear anything.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on July 05, 2007, 08:05:55 PM
Quote from: Conrad on July 05, 2007, 07:57:35 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 05, 2007, 07:22:21 PM
RAM
I just checked the schedule on the Wesley football site and it has the game in Dover
Quote from: rams1102 on July 05, 2007, 01:19:03 PM
I booked a room in Wilmington, DE this morning for the night of 9-21 for the 9-22 Montclair - Wesley game. I just got on the D3 site and the schedules show it is now a Montclair home game. The Wesley web site confirms this, but not the Montclair web site. Can anyone confirm or deny.

I haven't heard anything about the site being changed. I'll let you know if I hear anything.

Conrad,

Thanks for your response. A little ways back I missed the Salisbury game being cancelled for us. Now today I looked at the Montclair schedule on D3 and it shows that Montclair is Home and then I went to the Wesley D3 and it said Wesley was away. I then went on the Wesley College site and I guess my eyes saw what was not there. Later today after 5PM I re-visited the Wesley site and I was in error. I figured with the races it may happen. In any event I still have my reservations in Wilmington. Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 06, 2007, 12:26:57 AM
I've fixed our schedule.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on July 09, 2007, 09:02:57 PM
Salisbury is currently installing artificial turf at Seagull Stadium with completion in time for the Fall Football schedule.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 01, 2007, 10:24:42 PM
nj
Are they doing anything with the seating? I know there are a lot of seats already?


Should be fun watching the Wesley receiving corps this year again. With Beavers  and Clarke back  and Lanouette two years removed from the ACL surgery. Also with the stable of running backs returning the points may be coming fast again this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on August 02, 2007, 01:17:38 AM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on July 09, 2007, 09:02:57 PM
Salisbury is currently installing artificial turf at Seagull Stadium with completion in time for the Fall Football schedule.

We just put in SprintTurf in Bobcat Stadium.  It looks really good.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 02, 2007, 04:25:58 PM
Bobcats
Is that synthetic?
Quote from: FSU Bobcats on August 02, 2007, 01:17:38 AM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on July 09, 2007, 09:02:57 PM
Salisbury is currently installing artificial turf at Seagull Stadium with completion in time for the Fall Football schedule.

We just put in SprintTurf in Bobcat Stadium.  It looks really good.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on August 02, 2007, 11:47:58 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 02, 2007, 04:25:58 PM
Bobcats
Is that synthetic?
Quote from: FSU Bobcats on August 02, 2007, 01:17:38 AM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on July 09, 2007, 09:02:57 PM
Salisbury is currently installing artificial turf at Seagull Stadium with completion in time for the Fall Football schedule.

We just put in SprintTurf in Bobcat Stadium.  It looks really good.

Yes.  It's the same turf they have at Trinity and Elizabeth Forward in Pittsburgh.  Auburn and Ohio State also use it for their practice fields.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on August 04, 2007, 01:23:52 PM
Here are some pictures of the new turf at SU.

http://www.salisbury.edu/athletics/general/stadium/turffield07.asp
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 04, 2007, 01:55:48 PM
Looks good Bigtoe


Three of the four remaining ACFC teams all have new turf. If I remember right    NNN stadium has a real good grass field. Could be inviting for some new teams????
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 06, 2007, 01:52:41 PM
Hey everyone. I made a yahoo fantasy football league devoted to D3 fans. Everyone is welcome as I have 9 spots left open. All I ask is that you name your team after your favorite Div. 3 team.

League ID#: 9077
League Name: FANS OF DIVISION 3 FOOTBALL
Password: usasouth
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 06, 2007, 01:58:27 PM
WOW!!! I looked at the pictures of SU's new field and all I have to say is WOW!!!. It looks great. I wish Shenandoah would get that in the future.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 06, 2007, 02:06:35 PM
That would be correct PA.....we are grass.
With FB being the only sport playing on it...I dont see that changing for us anytime soon.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 06, 2007, 04:32:52 PM
nnasid

Have the city H.S.  fields gone to turf yet. I remember that the Shriners Bowl  game was played in one of them. Beautiful H.S. stadium.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 06, 2007, 07:49:38 PM
Sid

When is the ACFC having it's media day or releasing preseason picks?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 06, 2007, 10:37:05 PM
PA_wesleyfan:

The new turf at Seagull stadium should make for a fast track, and reduce the blame of outcomes of games on the weather.  To my knowledge, the seating at Seagull Stadium will remain at 2500 at this time.  Perhaps Bigtoe may have more current information than me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 06, 2007, 10:53:33 PM
NJ

I haven't been to Salisbury since 99' but remember that it had plenty of seating on both sides
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on August 07, 2007, 12:14:29 AM
For Salisbury fans and/or D3 fans in general, redskins.com  (http://redskins.com) writer's Gary Fitzgerald training camp blog for Aug 6 at 4:39 pm has a quick quote from rookie cornerback Byron Westbrook after a recent scrimmage.  To summarize, he feels he is doing a good job at camp although Fitzgerald indicates his best fit might be the practice squad due to the 'skins depth at CB.

Read the whole blog entry here http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=27673 (http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=27673)

Further down the blog, at 5:15 pm, Fitzgerald blogs about another former D3'er, Pete Schmitt from UW-Whitewater.  Because of the lack of depth at fullback, where the 'skins are trying out the former TE, Fitzgerald indicates he has a decent chance to make the club. 

Good luck to both of them.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 08, 2007, 10:01:19 AM
PA

Salisbury has a decent amount of of seats on the visitors side with the mojority of the seats on the home side.  A few years ago I saw some renderings for a new/modiified Seagull Stadium, but as of late there has not been any addition discussions.  The University has purchased alot of properties on the east side Route 13 adjacent to the athletic complex.  Currently the area is used for parking, but "who knows" what may happen in the future as Salisbury continues to grow.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 08, 2007, 10:05:05 AM
BoBo:

Thanks for the update on the former Seagull Byron Westbrook.  I'm hoping Byron makes to roster, however, if the practice squad is his fate this season, at least the Skins are happy with his potential.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on August 15, 2007, 07:17:51 PM
The conference preseason poll is out: Any thoughts?

2007 ACFC Preseason Coaches Poll
First-place votes in parentheses

1. Wesley (4) 4 points
2. Salisbury (1) 7 points
3. SUNY Brockport 12 points
4. Apprentice School 13 points
5. Frostburg State 14 points
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on August 16, 2007, 11:09:02 AM
Ok, I'll shoot the first salvo over the bridge.........I think the top 2 spots will be flipped at season's end. Wesley had all they could handle last year against SU....it was the closest game of the year for them until the Whitewater loss. The difference in that game was Warrick basically willing his team to win. If SU can come out of September without stumbling it will be a real war in Dover, but I think the Gulls have what it takes to pull the upset this year. Hopefull in Maryland........GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 16, 2007, 12:30:51 PM
I just read the Salisbury Daily Times reported that the University of Maryland fourth string QB Bobby Sheahin is at Salisbury and working out with the team.  Sheahin was initially at West Virginia, transferred to Maryland, and sat out a year, and was 4th on the depth chart last year with the Terps.

Junior Ronnie Curley is listed as SU's starting QB.




Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on August 16, 2007, 12:56:45 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on August 16, 2007, 12:30:51 PM
I just read the Salisbury Daily Times reported that the University of Maryland fourth string QB Bobby Sheahin is at Salisbury and working out with the team.  Sheahin was initially at West Virginia, transferred to Maryland, and sat out a year, and was 4th on the depth chart last year with the Terps.

Junior Ronnie Curley is listed as SU's starting QB.

How have you been. I hope your summer was good.

Do you think us Red Hawks have a chance vs Wesley? You saw what we had last year, and basically the same crew will be back. There is rumors that we will get a D1 transfer at WR. Won't Know till camp opens. Good luck to your Gulls this year.





Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 16, 2007, 03:23:07 PM
rams:

How have you been?  I trust all is well with you and your family.  I think Wesley is going to be a handful not only for the Red Hawks, but with all the teams they play.  The Wolverines return a "boatload" of talent from a team that had a great run in the NCAA's last year.  With that said, on any given Saturday, anything can happen.  Salisbury went out to Wash & Jeff last year and beat them when they were ranked, and then the Gulls fell flat on their "feathered rear end".

I hope the Red Hawks are able to pick up that D1 Receiver, and best of luck to Montclair State in the upcoming season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on August 16, 2007, 03:52:10 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on August 16, 2007, 11:09:02 AM
Ok, I'll shoot the first salvo over the bridge.........I think the top 2 spots will be flipped at season's end. Wesley had all they could handle last year against SU....it was the closest game of the year for them until the Whitewater loss. The difference in that game was Warrick basically willing his team to win. If SU can come out of September without stumbling it will be a real war in Dover, but I think the Gulls have what it takes to pull the upset this year. Hopefull in Maryland........GO GULLS!
I agree the Salisbury/Wesley game is usually very competitive and Warrick will be tough to replace. I think the Gulls will need a stand out performance from their defense, which they got last year (held Wesley to 69 rushing yards) . On offense, they will need to control the clock (some success at this last year, 11:30 minutes in 3rd quarter), take advantage of scoring opportunities (missed 27-yard field goal in the first half) and can't turn the ball over (3 last year.)

At the same time, it is a new year and there is a lot of football to be played before then. Wesley has a tough September schedule and Salisbury has two early road tests in Brockport and Christopher Newport, before hosting Delaware Valley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on August 16, 2007, 06:14:27 PM
No doubt both Salisbury and Wesley have tough early schedules, but if they both roll into that game undefeated or maybe with just a road loss......Katie bar the door, it will be one heck of a game. Testing yourself early (and having success) breeds excellent play and confidence later in the season. I think this has turned into the real rivalry game for Salisbury, even greater than the in-state Frostburg game at the end of the year, as many of the kids get recruited by both schools, have friends there, etc. I can't wait for the Albright game on Sept. 1, I just want to see a game on that new field.
As far as the transfer from Maryland, I think Ronnie Curley is secure in his position as the starting QB, he did a good job last year and got better each week. I know he is running the 1st team in practice thus far.  Anyway good luck to all the players, looking forward to a great year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theone on August 17, 2007, 01:27:05 PM
I think that the Wesley/Salisbury game will be a good game...but i have to give th edge to Wesley. I beleiev on both sides of the ball they are WAYYYY to fast.  If Salisbury doesn't have corners who can contain Beavers, Clark and Lanouette, the game will be over early. Thats without even mentioning the yound studs they have at RB.  Good luck to both teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 19, 2007, 12:42:15 PM
I have one spot left open for tonight Yahoo fantasy football draft league devoted to D3 fans. One guy dropped out. We have some Bridgewater fans, SU, Wesley, Mount Un, UW Oshkosh, CNU, and Greensboro. Here is the information you will need to join. Only one spot is left so it maybe full  when you try to register. Please name your team after the D3 team you cheer for. Good Luck

League ID#: 9077
League Name: FANS OF DIVISION 3 FOOTBALL
Password: usasouth
Draft Time: Sun Aug 19 7:00pm EDT 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 21, 2007, 05:17:06 PM
http://www.newszap.com/articles/2007/08/20/dm/central_delaware/sports/dsnspt01.txt

  Article about a player doing double duty!!!! I wonder how many players are still   doing active duty and playing ?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 21, 2007, 05:43:20 PM
McMurry's punter in 2003, Mike Colvin (http://www.d3football.com/notables/2003/10/24/Best+of+all+worlds), was active duty, single dad and punter.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 21, 2007, 05:55:43 PM
  Never get tired of the good stories that come out of D3
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 22, 2007, 05:19:57 PM
Here's another follow up story on Wesley's Jason Schatz and his transition back to QB from WO.

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070822/SPORTS/708220406/1002/SPORTS
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 26, 2007, 11:08:42 PM
Huntingdon fans, I am hoping to meet you in Montgomery on Saturday!

Travel safely.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on August 27, 2007, 12:27:52 AM
try to go by and see dexter ave baptist church, hank williams museum, white house of the confederacy, civil rights memorial, and a  bunch mo stuff

hope u travel safe, and see a great, hard hitting ball game in samford stadium

i will attempt to find u if u sit in the stands with all us alabama folks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on August 27, 2007, 12:43:23 PM
Ralph & AF4
I usually park on the lawn in front of the Cloverdale Building. If you see a black Mazda 6 stop by and say Hi.


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on August 27, 2007, 04:05:42 PM
It is that time of year again. The older I get the more I miss being indulged in beginning a run at the playoffs yet again. I am going to jump in on this conversation about Salisbury/Wesley. I played at the 'Bury and know the coaches well. I have been getting some feedback from people closer to the program. Apparently, this is the most athletic team they have brought into camp since Wood has been head coach. So as for athleticism, I think Salisbury will bring to the table the best athletes Wesley faces.

This game is the make or break for each of the other teams season. I HATED losing to Wesley. It is a mutual relationship. With that being said, I think the athletes are important but is not what is going to win that game.

I am now far away from playing that I haven't played with any current players. THAT GAME IS GOING TO BE WON BY THE TEAM THAT WANTS IT MORE. Nothing else about it. Knowing the core of coaches at Salisbury, I don't expect them to bring in anything but players that have the winning mentality. This goes for Wesley too, if you want it then take it, because I know there are a group of men 140 strong, that reside 60 miles away and they are coming to take it and going to put up the biggest fight and come out victorious.

Salisbury 34 Wesley 26

Go Gulls
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 27, 2007, 04:21:47 PM
Roll Gulls, glad to see that you are back!

Have a good season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 27, 2007, 06:30:24 PM
Conrad

Did you see the scrimmage this weekend? Any big performances by any Frosh?
Unfortunately I will be only listening  this week. HAHa on two p.c.'s.... (inside joke)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 29, 2007, 05:22:51 PM
Look's like I am going to have to develope a few more personalities so I can have a conversation in here ;D  Ya Ya one of me is enough I know!!!! ;)

Well anyway I wil co with the Conference teams in all three games this week

  NNA over Fairmont St.    I don't Fairmont.. If NNA has some players back and plays like last year they should win a few games.

Salisbury over Albright   Salisbury has top gel early to make a run at the Wolverines for the ACFC title but Albright plays tough and could keep it close.

  Wesley over NCW   Wesley doesn't lose at home.. I think people are putting too much into the QB change.  Wesley is loaded with speed and the wideouts catch short passes too and just run away from people.  NCW is a good team but Wesley still feels it has something to prove and things can just snow ball for opposing teams in Dover
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 29, 2007, 05:27:22 PM
Pat

I know that the Wesley games are webcast by WDEL. I don't know if the games are going to be webcast  on Stretch net this year ..
Conrad???? are the games going to be on?

Wesley also had live stats last year
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 29, 2007, 06:16:54 PM
fairmont is a solid D2 team from the West Va. Intercoll. Ath'l Conference.  While we don't have our running backs from last year (Freeman and Brown were seniors) we still have our QB Franklin, WR - Reid and all of our secondary.


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 29, 2007, 06:41:12 PM
 Sid

Thank you


Quote from: nnasid on August 29, 2007, 06:16:54 PM
fairmont is a solid D2 team from the West Va. Intercoll. Ath'l Conference.  While we don't have our running backs from last year (Freeman and Brown were seniors) we still have our QB Franklin, WR - Reid and all of our secondary.



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on August 29, 2007, 08:39:54 PM
I am going to have to agree with your predictions this week...

Wesley 38 NCW 14...Wesley comes out hot and wins big at home.

NNA 17 Fairmont 14...NNA starts off with a big win over an average D2 school. Still a big win in week 1.

Salisbury 27 Albright 7...Salisbury plays tough defense. I think they will be down 7-6 at halftime and score 21 unanswered.

Overall, ACFC 3-0 after week 1.

Go Gulls!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 30, 2007, 07:41:20 AM
I have to keep the streak going with NNA, Salisbury, and Wesley with wins.  Btw, Roll Gulls 56, did you graduate from SU a few years ago and went off to Medical School in West Virginia?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on August 30, 2007, 08:36:12 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 29, 2007, 05:27:22 PM
Pat

I know that the Wesley games are webcast by WDEL. I don't know if the games are going to be webcast  on Stretch net this year ..
Conrad???? are the games going to be on?

Wesley also had live stats last year

No stretch internet this season. Games will be broadcast on WDEL 1150 AM and you can listen online by going to wdel.com. You can get live stats at at Wesley's web site (wesley.edu). They just redid their site, so if you can't link off the d3football.com team page use wesley.edu.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 30, 2007, 09:07:51 AM
hit refresh when you go to wesley's page.  I had to do that to get the new look to it (applause)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 30, 2007, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: Conrad on August 30, 2007, 08:36:12 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 29, 2007, 05:27:22 PM
Pat

I know that the Wesley games are webcast by WDEL. I don't know if the games are going to be webcast  on Stretch net this year ..
Conrad???? are the games going to be on?

Wesley also had live stats last year

No stretch internet this season. Games will be broadcast on WDEL 1150 AM and you can listen online by going to wdel.com. You can get live stats at at Wesley's web site (wesley.edu). They just redid their site, so if you can't link off the d3football.com team page use wesley.edu.


We updated our link yesterday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on August 30, 2007, 11:54:45 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 30, 2007, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: Conrad on August 30, 2007, 08:36:12 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 29, 2007, 05:27:22 PM
Pat

I know that the Wesley games are webcast by WDEL. I don't know if the games are going to be webcast  on Stretch net this year ..
Conrad???? are the games going to be on?

Wesley also had live stats last year

No stretch internet this season. Games will be broadcast on WDEL 1150 AM and you can listen online by going to wdel.com. You can get live stats at at Wesley's web site (wesley.edu). They just redid their site, so if you can't link off the d3football.com team page use wesley.edu.


We updated our link yesterday.
I had a feeling it wouldn't take you long to catch that. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 30, 2007, 06:21:17 PM
Good read for Wesley fans

http://www.newszap.com/articles/2007/08/29/dm/central_delaware/sports/dsnspt01.txt
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 30, 2007, 09:38:39 PM
A new look to the ACFC webpage (refresh your browsers just in case).

www.acfcfootball.com
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on August 31, 2007, 09:14:50 PM
njlincolnlion,

   I did not graduate but did go off to medical school in WV. I have since graduated and have started my surgical residency at the University of Tenn. I am one class short of my bachelors but have my doctorate:)...


Should be a great opening weekend this week.

Roll Gulls
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2007, 10:14:33 AM
The season begins....The Wolverines will have to be ready today for NCW.. NCW has some good weapons of their own. The Wesley D will be up to the task. Interested to see what the O will do with all that speed, should be fun to watch again...

Go Wolverines....ONE MORE GAME!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 01, 2007, 10:18:23 AM
Good Luck to all teams.

I have a bad feeling about the Wesley game for some reason.  However, being at home I think they may squeak one out (Of course I could be completely off!)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2007, 10:51:50 AM
come back story on Beavers


http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070901/SPORTS/709010337/1002/SPORTS
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2007, 04:48:52 PM
Good test for Wesley today but they gave up to many points on turn overs. NCW has some big time players. Understand that there was standing room only today, good for Labor Day crowd.  Pat and Keith were there I am sure they have a few comments
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 01, 2007, 05:22:43 PM
Conference goes 2-1
Wesley's big W
Salisbury 42-14 over Albright

Fairmont defeated Apprentice 3-0.  Fairmont ran for 153 yards and a 34-yard fg in the 2nd  was the lone score.  :(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2007, 06:01:44 PM
Pat - looks like you picked a good game to attend. Looking forward to details.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 01, 2007, 06:16:04 PM
Huntingdon, it was nice to see your place.

Thanks to HC President Dr West, who hosted a contingency of McMurry adminstration and key individuals, as we compared university matters as United Methodist Church affiliated institutions.

AF4, it was good to meet you.  I looked forward to continued posting encounters.  Best wishes to you and your family.

Hawks88, I am sorry that I missed you.

Thanks to HC and best wishes!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on September 01, 2007, 07:45:14 PM
Ralph.. it was an honor to meet yall

The McMurray folks were all real nice

Lord willing, our paths will cross again

safe travels
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 01, 2007, 09:14:10 PM
Quote from: pg04 on September 01, 2007, 10:18:23 AM
Good Luck to all teams.

I have a bad feeling about the Wesley game for some reason.  However, being at home I think they may squeak one out (Of course I could be completely off!)

Boy I got one right! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 01, 2007, 09:49:20 PM
Well this is my third try at posting tonight. Maybe I can get this one in with my computer acting goofy for some reason.
Sorry I missed meeting you too, Ralph, on what turned out being a beautiful football Saturday once it finally decided not to rain.
Man, I don't know if I've ever seen our defense hitting like they were today. Our DB's were especially passing some big licks out there. Our offense was kind of inconsistent but the defense did a great job keeping McMurry off the scoreboard for most of the second half after giving some long drives.
Hope all you folks have a safe trip home.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on September 01, 2007, 10:40:44 PM
Hawks88

sorry i missed u, will try to look u up next week, Lord willing

and u r correct.... real hard hits by DB's... i agree offense is slower to get started.... how about that goal line stand...wow!!!!

McMurray will win some this year ...they are a good ball club... i wish them well... thier fans were real nice folks

i just hope we can keep this level on D an improve consistency on O

also...the band was pretty good

have a good holiday and great week
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 01, 2007, 10:41:51 PM
Quote from: nnasid on September 01, 2007, 05:22:43 PM
Conference goes 2-1
Wesley's big W
Salisbury 42-14 over Albright

Fairmont defeated Apprentice 3-0.  Fairmont ran for 153 yards and a 34-yard fg in the 2nd  was the lone score.  :(

3-0?  That had to have been the most boring game in football history! 

Sorry for the loss, however. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2007, 10:53:34 PM
 Wesley didn't play a very sound game today. Two fumbles  inside their own ten for 14pts . Too many dropped passes. D played much better in the second half.

Injuries to Huntbach , Robinson and Clark are a concern

After listening to Coach Drass on the radio post game I wouldn't want to be at practice Tuesday!!!!!

But you gotta luv his brutal honesty!!! Del Val could be playing Wesley the wrong week
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 02, 2007, 12:10:12 AM
Quote from: pg04 on September 01, 2007, 10:41:51 PM
Quote from: nnasid on September 01, 2007, 05:22:43 PM
Conference goes 2-1
Wesley's big W
Salisbury 42-14 over Albright

Fairmont defeated Apprentice 3-0.  Fairmont ran for 153 yards and a 34-yard fg in the 2nd  was the lone score.  :(

3-0?  That had to have been the most boring game in football history! 

Sorry for the loss, however. 


well....that was a true d2 team...they had 2 tailbacks that (while neither broke 100) were heck to bring down.  Our D played step to step with them.  Fairmont pushed but never got in.

we have a pair of ACFC games next week with Salisbury at Brockport and Frostburg coming to Newport News.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 02, 2007, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: nnasid on September 02, 2007, 12:10:12 AM
Quote from: pg04 on September 01, 2007, 10:41:51 PM
Quote from: nnasid on September 01, 2007, 05:22:43 PM
Conference goes 2-1
Wesley's big W
Salisbury 42-14 over Albright

Fairmont defeated Apprentice 3-0.  Fairmont ran for 153 yards and a 34-yard fg in the 2nd  was the lone score.  :(

3-0?  That had to have been the most boring game in football history! 

Sorry for the loss, however. 


well....that was a true d2 team...they had 2 tailbacks that (while neither broke 100) were heck to bring down.  Our D played step to step with them.  Fairmont pushed but never got in.

we have a pair of ACFC games next week with Salisbury at Brockport and Frostburg coming to Newport News.

Great Effort then, They might be a spoiler in the ACFC yet again (upset Wesley??  ;))
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 02, 2007, 08:34:35 PM
NNAsid
The Builders D must have been on the field a long time Sat. Tough day for the O..
But playing tougher teams will get them ready for the tough games ahead 
Is it me or did the games get a lot longer tine wise yesterday???

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 02, 2007, 08:47:48 PM
Wesley's was, but a game with 40 incomplete passes and 22 penalties is going to be long under either set of timing rules.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 02, 2007, 08:57:00 PM
Pat
Yes  and a few injury delays too. I know you were there so you would have noticed the refs taking more time. Was there alittle more room for you and Keith in the press box?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 02, 2007, 09:45:58 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 02, 2007, 08:57:00 PM
Was there alittle more room for you and Keith in the press box?

Not really. Wesley is going to continue to have trouble in that area if it continues to be successful as a football program.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 02, 2007, 10:28:27 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 02, 2007, 08:34:35 PM
NNAsid
The Builders D must have been on the field a long time Sat. Tough day for the O..
But playing tougher teams will get them ready for the tough games ahead 
Is it me or did the games get a lot longer tine wise yesterday???



Our game at least didnt go longer than I wouldve expected.  We did have a halftime ceremony to honor our USCAA National Champion Baseball Team with their ring presentations, but it went quick.
Game wise: a lot of running and not a whole lot of passing.
Yeah our defense held them to just about what we gave up last year per game (about 20 yards more) so they did a whale of a job.  53 carries will whip any defense.
Like to think we will be a spoiler, but it'll be interesting to see how things stack up next week with Frostburg coming in here breathing fire.  I'm sure Rubin will have them wound up after losing to us two years running.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on September 03, 2007, 09:14:25 AM
I read that somebody mentioned some injuries to Wesley, Robinson in particular. Are these serious or just day to day things?

I didn't get to listen to any of the games but I think that Wesley didn't play its best game and still figured out how to win. That is a sign of a good team not to take anything away from NCW.

NNA can play some stout defense. I don't care who you play, if you give up less than a TD then you are playing well. If the offense can bounce back, they might give some of the ACFC some trouble.

Salisbury played an all around good game. The three sacks they gave up was mildly concerning and having three fumbles but only losing one wasn't great either. However, all 3 facets of their team showed up and contributed in a strong fashion. They did give up 200+ yards passing but that was on 29-40 meaning they were not giving up the long ball. I really liked what I read about week 1 all the way around.

Brockport not playing in week 1 I think really doesn't help them because of the confidence that Salisbury gained beating a team that will end up in the top 4 of their conference. It should be a good one this weekend. I think that the speed and athleticism of Salisbury will prevail. I actually don't even think that it will be close as in years before. SU 44 BSU 16

Frostburg not playing in week one didn't hurt near as much. They know what they are in for and it will be a dog fight with NNA. I am giving Ruben the benefit of the doubt and think that he will have his team ready. FSU 21 NNA 10

Wesley comes out this week and plays an overrated Del. Valley team. It will look good but I think that Drass takes out his aggression on them. Wesley 62 Del. Valle 21

Lets get em started early this week...I can't wait til Saturday.

Roll Gulls baby
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bports on September 03, 2007, 06:20:43 PM
I will guarantee you salisbury will not put up 44 pts and beat bport by 28 pts!!!!! I fully expect bport to win this game and if they dont it will be a game that comes down to the wire. Bport has more athletes this year than last and they beat salisbury pretty easily on the road last year 21-3. Bport will be playing a VERY PHYSICAL game and the question is will salisbury want to play that physical?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 03, 2007, 09:35:22 PM
 NNASid

Website update looks good
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on September 04, 2007, 09:20:15 AM
PAWesleyFan:

I'll be at Saturday's game in my other capacity (Del Val radio guy).  You going to be there?  Let me know what to look for and I'll swing by to say hello.

On the Salisbury-Albright game, Sea Gulls fans shouldn't worry too much about the passing yards they gave up.  Setting aside the obvious score advantage, Kelly is a  good young quarterback so the 200-yards aren't necessarily sign of a problem.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 04, 2007, 12:12:13 PM
I have to agree with bports in that I don't think the game will be a blowout - it will probably be close, and naturally I feel the Gulls will prevail. And while yes, it is true that Bport whupped 'em last year, Salisbury, like Bport, is not that same team either. The last half of last year the defense was much improved over the D that faced Bport that day. Different personnel at many spots and time to learn a entirely new defensive scheme. But the offense is the big change, with different guys @ QB, running back, line and receiver. - not that the previous guys were the whole problem- when you get whipped like that, coaches shoulder a big part of that as well. But many of those guys were "me first" type attitudes and coach removed several from the team in that season. One intangible in D3 is the travel- that long bus ride is tough, but Bport turned that table last year, hopefully Salisbury can return the favor. Anyway-hope they all come out healthy and GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2007, 03:48:39 PM
Wesley is among teams discussed in this week's Around the Nation podcast. It's a wrapup of the interesting stories on the national scene, plus a chance to hear our opinions about teams:

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2007/09/04/around-the-nations-take/
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 04, 2007, 05:02:50 PM
gordonmann

I plan on being at the game Saturday. What local radio station carries Del Val games up here in Bucks Co.? Now that BUX is all Catholic all the time the only locals are in Lansdale and Lower Bucks. 

  I usually sit at the top of the steps 2nd row from the top on the press box entrance side
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 04, 2007, 09:05:10 PM
For the Huntingdon fan who wanted some respect (in Chris Allman's ATR-South), just beat Oshkosh and you will have plenty. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 04, 2007, 10:11:58 PM
Bobby Sheahin the Maryland transfer QB at Salisbury showed a good strong arm in the game against Albright last Saturday.  He will provide SU with a good passing option if they need it. The lights were being installed at Sea Gull Stadium today, look for some night football next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 05, 2007, 01:18:58 AM
From a Brockport perspective, I think this game, although it's only the first, will be an important tell of how the season will go. 

Salisbury, though a good team, is probably only the 6th best team on the schedule (sorry, not trying to offend the gulls in anyway) behind Wesley, Fisher, Springfield, Ithaca and Cortland.  If the eagles could beat them at home, I think they will be in good shape to have a good season.

Should be interesting! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 05, 2007, 12:31:13 PM


Quote from: pg04 on September 05, 2007, 01:18:58 AM

Salisbury, though a good team, is probably only the 6th best team on the schedule (sorry, not trying to offend the gulls in anyway) behind Wesley, Fisher, Springfield, Ithaca and Cortland. 

 




pgo4:

So to put another spin on the Salisbury/B-port game, if the Gulls win, the Eagles are in for a long season.  ;D

GO Gulls !
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 05, 2007, 12:48:37 PM
Salisbury alum Byron Westbrook has made the Washington Redskins practice squad.  Westbrook was among several players making the squad while 5th rd. USC linebacker Dallas Sartz, and 6th rd. UTEP QB Jordan Palmer didn't make the squad.  The Washington Redskins release quoted "Coaches like Westbrook's potential; he recorded four tackles and forced a fumble in preseason".

Congratulation Byron and best of luck!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 06, 2007, 02:08:45 AM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 05, 2007, 12:31:13 PM


Quote from: pg04 on September 05, 2007, 01:18:58 AM

Salisbury, though a good team, is probably only the 6th best team on the schedule (sorry, not trying to offend the gulls in anyway) behind Wesley, Fisher, Springfield, Ithaca and Cortland.

 




pgo4:

So to put another spin on the Salisbury/B-port game, if the Gulls win, the Eagles are in for a long season.  ;D

GO Gulls !

I didn't necessarily say that.  I wanted to sound more optimistic than that.  I was just saying it should be a good measuring stick. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 06, 2007, 02:37:02 PM
First important conference match ups this week in the ACFC, highlighted by Salisbury at Brockport.

Looks like the Gulls can throw the ball this year, too. The transfer QB from Maryland (Sheahin) had good numbers (4-of-5 for 89 yards and 2 TDs.) That could be bad news for the rest of the conference. Their offense could be tough to stop. His running numbers weren't as good as Curley's. Do they have a two-headed monster or should one start over the other? What do you think Gull fans?

Brockport should be able to run the ball, their line is usually solid and they return Lynch and McCormick at tailback. At QB, Luke took a step backward after a solid finish to his freshman year in '05. I would think experience and better pass protection (sacked too much last season) makes him better this year. Who will he throw to? Leading receivers from '06 Bond and Mahoney are gone. They might struggle stopping the run with most of the returning DL inexperienced. That could go a long way in determining who wins.

I expect Frostburg/Apprentice game to be low scoring. The Bobcats had trouble scoring points last year and the Builders didn't score last week against. Both defenses appear pretty solid, though FSU had some people to replace.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 06, 2007, 03:33:56 PM
pg04:

Just a bit of good natured ribbing   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 06, 2007, 03:40:27 PM
Conrad:

I think the "Dual QB" system for Salisbury would be great.  The Florida Gators won a National Championship employing the "Two-headed Monster".  I'm sure Curley, will be the starter and Sheahin will come in for different situations.  Additionally, it'll be tough to prepare for Salisbury's offense regarding Rushing or Throwing.   Finally, it's great to have a more than capable backup. I remember a few years agon when Salisbury QB Dustin Johnson went down to a season ending injury, teams packed in to stop the Gulls leading rusher Leroy Satchell.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 06, 2007, 05:47:26 PM
      You're right about Curley and Sheahin @ Salisbury- both can play. Curley is getting it done running the option and he is solid throwing the ball as well, Sheahin is a better pure passer and not too shabby running the option either. Quite a nice "problem" to have.  It's obvious why Sheahin was in a D1 system, his arm is strong and very accurate. Hopefully both can get enough time on the field and contribute to the team, otherwise I would fear losing one or the other as far as attitude-it's tough to stand on the sideline and watch another guy take "your" reps. It takes special guys that have a team first winning mentality for this to work. If they can pull it off the Gulls will be a very tough out all year.
      Has anybody heard anything regarding the future of this conference? Losing B-port is actually good as far as travel is concerned (for both schools), but it would be nice to have some teams jumping in that were more in the Mid Atlantic area.
        GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2007, 07:38:20 PM
SU Backer

Boy it doesn't look good for conference additions with the last few independants in the south hooking on to conferences. Teams in the east are all in Mass. and Maine and I don't think any of them are ready to take  on Wesley ,Frostburg or Salisbury st., And the travel for NNA would be brutal.... I don't know that the MAC is ready to have football only schools joining them. But who knows who would be willing to switch conferences again.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 06, 2007, 08:07:24 PM
pa wesleyfan, did you see the nice article on mike pennewell in the delaware state news today.  he did a fantastic job in the second half and held on to the ball.  i found it interesting the coach drass felt it necessary to mention that schatz had a solid start in his first game as qb.  seems that coach thinks that if 5 passes had not been dropped schatz's numbers would have been rather impressive for a first game.  after reading some other recaps of the game, i was starting to wonder if i had seen the same game.  i talked to jason after the game and he said it best, " i don't care what my stats were, we won the game."  also was nice to see a comparison of schatz's first game with the other recent qb's at wesley in an article on the wesley football website.  check it out if you have the time.  look me up on saturday, i will be tailgating and easy to find, near the front of the lot wearing an army bucket hat.  it would be nice to meet you, a fellow defender of the wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2007, 08:16:31 PM
Couple of good conference match-ups this week.

NNA and Frostburg St should be a good one. But they both have to find ways to get into the endzone. Long trip for Frostburg but they have a revenge factor in their corner

B-Port and Salisbury St. will be a good preview of how competative the conference will be this season. It should also be a tight game. Interested to see the Salisbury O against a big team. This game being played at B-Port evens this contest out

Wesley will probably be looking to wipe away that bitter taste from last weeks near loss. Del Val could be in for a long day in Dover
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2007, 09:40:35 PM
wesleydad

I did see the articles.  I read as much as I can online and I also get to email back and forth with a few people.  I guess this is our 13th year following Wesley football.
I listened to the games on DEL when I can't get down to Dover. They also had a nice highlight reel on their web site.

As of now I am going to be there Sat. Things tend to change here fast sometimes.
I'll have a few people with me but I will try to introduce myself.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Old Ref on September 08, 2007, 10:27:43 AM
Good luck to NNA today!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on September 08, 2007, 01:00:02 PM
Has anyone been able to get on to hear the broadcast for the SU/Brockport game? I am having a heck of a time. Should be a great day for the conference.

Roll Gulls
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 08, 2007, 01:18:57 PM
7-0 Salisbury about midway through the 1st. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 08, 2007, 01:37:41 PM
7-7 :37 left in the first. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on September 08, 2007, 02:10:06 PM
Salisbury 17 BSU 14
3:31 left in first half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on September 08, 2007, 02:24:25 PM
Del Val leads Wesley 14-7 at the half.

Wesley with two interceptions at or inside the Aggies 20, one of which was returned to the Wes 46.  A bad snap on a punt set up Del Val's first touchdown.

Schatz 12-22-146 yards-1 TD-2 INT
Michael Clarke 3-85, TD
Larry Beavers 3-22

Wes 16 carries for 22 yards.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on September 08, 2007, 04:18:22 PM
Wesley rallies with 17 points in 8 minutes to take a 24-21 win.  The turning point was a 58-yard slant pattern that turned into a touchdown for Larry Beavers.

Between the fleet-footed Beavers and Clarke and the talented Jon Lanouette (game winning score), the Wolverines have a lot of nice weapons.  They did give up 21 points on four turnovers and a muffed punt, but have enough talent to compensate for now.  Congrats to the Wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 08, 2007, 04:52:16 PM
Apprentice 17, Frostburg State 7
Travis Reid sets school career TD record with his 21st scoring catch (13-yards to go up 10-7) and the builders block another punt (Tony Scott) and returned it for the final score (Lawrence Frost 34 yards)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 08, 2007, 06:37:51 PM
Quite possibly the worst game ever for Huntingdon today. Not to take anything away from UW-Oshkosh as they have a very good team, well coached and didn't make mistakes, but we just plain old stunk today. There's not really much else to say about it.
Back to work and hope we do better next week.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Old Ref on September 08, 2007, 09:52:52 PM
Good job, NNA. Keep it up!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 08, 2007, 10:02:19 PM
Salisbury 40, B-port 14 !  reading accounts of the game, it looks like the Gulls broke the game wide open in the second half.  That was some send off from the ACFC the Gulls gave to the Eagles.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on September 08, 2007, 10:43:53 PM
Ralph Turner.... per your suggestion of huntingdon getting respect.... well brother .... we ain't gonna get none.... we got an old fashioned butt whuppin

Hawks88... u nailed it.... our D line got little or no penetration, backers got caught inside- with perimeters open, db's can't cover for >5 sec....and tooooo many bad passes from us..... oh well

Lord willing we can do better against murrville

Pray yall have a safe, good, productive week

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 08, 2007, 11:26:16 PM
gordonmann

Well I didn't have the fourth quarter come back I needed at the Downs on the way home..
A couple of thoughts on the game.... Del Val has a real good, quick,swarming D.
Isgro had some nice runs but he was under pressure all day and avoided at least more sacks.   Cook is going to be a good back. He drove the pile back a few times today
There were only 4 penalties called all day.
  It looked like Wesleys size took it's toll in the fourth quarter. Wesley move the ball the last eight minutes.  And once Beavers got the ball into the secondary it was over. Lanouette made a great play on his td catch. It appeared to me that he was not 100%. But they do use him a lot on blocking schemes and it was a hot day today.. Refs actually called water break time outs.
  The crowd noise late in the game seemed to really bother Isgro and he had trouble get his audibles and counts.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 08, 2007, 11:29:04 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 08, 2007, 11:26:16 PM
gordonmann

Well I didn't have the fourth quarter come back I needed at the Downs on the way home..
A couple of thoughts on the game.... Del Val has a real good, quick,swarming D.
Isgro had some nice runs but he was under pressure all day and avoided at least more sacks.   Cook is going to be a good back. He drove the pile back a few times today
There were only 4 penalties called all day.
  It looked like Wesleys size took it's toll in the fourth quarter. Wesley move the ball the last eight minutes.  And once Beavers got the ball into the secondary it was over. Lanouette made a great play on his td catch. It appeared to me that he was not 100%. But they do use him a lot on blocking schemes and it was a hot day today.. Refs actually called water break time outs.
  The crowd noise late in the game seemed to really bother Isgro and he had trouble get his audibles and counts.
Missed you today PA. How much did you waste a the Downs?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 09, 2007, 12:46:23 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 08, 2007, 06:37:51 PM
Quite possibly the worst game ever for Huntingdon today. Not to take anything away from UW-Oshkosh as they have a very good team, well coached and didn't make mistakes, but we just plain old stunk today. There's not really much else to say about it.
Back to work and hope we do better next week.

Go Hawks!!

I think these same statements could apply to Brockport.  Good game Salisbury!  Also Congrats to Wesley for barely squeezing through and to NNA for beating Frostburg yet again!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 09, 2007, 01:13:52 AM
Conrad

I figured you were busy in the booth. We did hang for a while but   you had a different partner this week didn't you? We'll ALL be at Widener next week.
Did have a nice talk a few former players parents and the Pres.  I also have to admit I sat with Uncle Frank today!!!! Great to see so many parents (and other relatives: see uncle frank)of ex-players who come to the games. 

  You notice every time I visit the Downs the add on to the building!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on September 09, 2007, 01:56:53 AM
PA_WesleyFan:

Good to meet you today.  I always enjoy putting faces with message board handles. :)

Del Val's defense is very good.  Kudos to Coach Clements for keeping that unit strong despite graduating six seniors.  The noise did seem to rattle the Aggies but their own conservative play calling didn't help either.  Seemed like they were trying not to lose on offense in the second half, which just doesn't work against good teams.  Something like one first down in the second half?  Yuck.

Maybe I'll see you again next week.  I'm toying with seeing the Widener/Wes game in light of today's Pride victory over NC Wes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 09, 2007, 02:02:36 AM
gordonmann

Del Val got away from that power counter that had some success early. I think that Robinson had Isgro looking over his should and that efffected the Aggies  passing game
Wesley's D really fed off the crowd those last 9 mins
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Old Ref on September 09, 2007, 09:29:14 AM

Maybe I'll see you again next week.  I'm toying with seeing the Widener/Wes game in light of today's Pride victory over NC Wes.
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Gordomman.......This article in the local paper may help you decide your decision for saturday........this says it all

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/sports/content/sports/index.html
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on September 09, 2007, 12:08:34 PM
Hm.  Sounds like Widener capitalized on NC Wes mistakes to take the lead.

My hesitancy is more that I'm already going to see both Wesley and Widener this year and am not sure whether to spend my time there or elsewhere this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 09, 2007, 04:44:26 PM
   Tremendous effort and a un-ending will to win characterized Salisbury's win @ Brockport on Saturday. Really made the 9 hour drive home enjoyable. I won't doubt Roll Gulls again, as he (or she) not only predicted a big win, but darn near hit the score on the head as well! Make no mistake though, this was a battle with a determined foe, Salisbury just overwhelmed Brockport with it's determination and a will to win that I haven't seen from them in 3 years. They are believing down on the shore and with good reason. No time to rest with this schedule though, Christopher Newport is next on their home field - I'm sure they will be ready after the loss to UMHB, then a very good Del Val team that will be lookin to pay back the Gulls .  After seeing almost every SU game for the last 5 years, I think this team rivals any in that era. Congrats to NNA and Wesley, the ACFC is good throughout-there are no gimme games amongst any of these teams. I would love to see SU and Wesley roll into their game with the title (and a undefeated season on the line)-GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 09, 2007, 06:37:17 PM
another nice but tough win for wesley.  pawesleyfan, sorry i didnt get to meet you or anyone else at the game this week.  it would be nice to meet some of you since i am new to the blogging stuff but always at the game.  my son plays a prominent roll in the game and it would be nice to chat with others who watch the game.  i try to be objective since i believe in honesty versus homerism, and do not want to sound defensive if necessary.  i will be at the widener game since it is in my home area and many friends and supporters will be there.  it is nice to be 2 - 0 against much better comp then the last couple of years.  delval put a lot of pressure on the qb despite rushing only 3 most of the game.   i am not sure about some of the play calling with the deep passes against 3 deep coverage  which del val used most of the game.  lanouette, despite not being 100% may have the best hands on the team and is huge, ask the 2 delval dbacks left laying on the field on the winning t d catch.  hope to see you guys at the game this friday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on September 09, 2007, 07:40:47 PM
SU Backer,
  BTW, I am a dude...anyways...I agree. I don't live on or near the shore and haven't seen a game since Wesley in 2005. I keep thinking that it seems this year it is more about the Salisbury Sea Gulls and not about Leroy Satchell or Dustin Johnson or Tony Ellis. If we can stay with this mentality then we will sore...if not the season will not be as magical.

I would love for SU/Wesley to both be undefeated coming into Game 9 this year. That would be sweet. As for this week against CNU, Salisbury will match up well. They always have matched up well. CNU is not real creative on offense. Salisbury's front seven are and always have been the meat of the D. I think that CNU runs alot of plays this week but only averages 2.5 a play. I think that SU's offense is getting better and better each and every quarter of play together. My prediction this week is SU 24 CNU 17 with CNU throwing an int. on game tying drive to seal the deal. I think that CNU is the most athletic of all the teams we will play.

Also, SU Backer when did you start watchin' the games exactly? I am just interested in a comparison to teams from approx. 5 years ago since you see them play more than I do.

Roll Gulls...and just remember boys...you only have a certain number of plays and games left in your careers...don't let even one slip by without giving it your ALL!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2007, 07:46:53 PM
Quote from: Roll Gulls 56 on September 09, 2007, 07:40:47 PM
I don't live on or near the shore and haven't seen a game since Wesley in 2005.

Wow -- we have a lot in common. I'm male, don't live on or near the shore, and haven't seen Salisbury since the 2005 Wesley game either. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 09, 2007, 07:52:37 PM
wesleydad

I had a few people with me and we ended up running into some parents of years past. We got to the stadum late so I didn't venture into the parking area. I was actually with some of the Del Val parents Friday at a local high school game and they wanted us to stop by and I didn't get there either.

Planning on being at Widener Friday just hope the BLUE RT. is clear.....Traffic from Wllow Grove to Chester on friday afternoon can be challenging.

As for the game. The boys got to take better care of the ball. Won't be able to keep giving up leads and expect the team to keep recovering every week.
I know they can score from anywhere on the but it's better when they do it first...

Lanouette made a great catch for his TD
It looked  to me that Del Val covered him well early
and took away his routes and he was used.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on September 09, 2007, 08:17:45 PM
Pat,
  Thanks for that extra tidbit. Next time I will start my post out with "Pat Coleman" when aimed in your direction.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2007, 08:21:57 PM
In an ever-changing world, it's good to see one person hasn't changed.

At least you've come to understand that we know how to rank your team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 10, 2007, 01:57:16 AM
   Roll Gulls, I started watching SU games when my son was a senior in high school and he is now a senior @ Salisbury. This is a bittersweet season for my wife and I as this year will most likely be the last one that we get to enjoy watchng our son play football. He has brought us many wonderful Friday nights and Saturday afternoons playing this game, although we worry every time he steps on the field for his safety and the same for all the other guys on both teams. I take some measure of comfort knowing that he prepares physically and mentally all year for these ten or so games each season.
   Anyway don't let that '05 Wesley game be the last you (or Pat!) watch, that was the worst game SU has played in the last 5 years........but that old "you're never as bad as you look on your worst day" sage holds true for that game-evidenced by SU giving Wesley fits all day last year. I think that Wesley is the class of the ACFC, but I don't think they are unbeatable.  I believe there were big shoes to fill when Warrick left. The confidence that a veteran QB brings can't be underestimated. As someone that hasn't seen SU play, you are still spot on in your assesment that the "team first" mentality is there, with no one player the "star" player. Come on down and cheer 'em on again!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on September 10, 2007, 05:56:16 AM
Pat,
  Relax buddy...I was just giving you a hard time...and yes...I have grown up some and am not going to get on here and be as immature as I used to be. This site is really taking off and it is a great thing to see. It is hard to believe that I have been on here for almost ten years. Keep up the good work. I am now a physician so I am held to a higher standard:)

SU Backer,
  I feel for you and your wife but most of all your son. I know he is a heck of a player and that your senior year is bitter sweet. I am 26 and graduated in 2002. I played four years and miss it more than anything. I am married have a son and one on the way. I hope to make it up to a game this year but not likely until the playoffs if they come closer to Tenn. I write the guys a letter every year before Wesley. I had the luxery of stopping by Salisbury last year when in Philly. I got to speak to the team and that is the feel I got. We not I. Coach Wood and Fleetwood were like my parents when I was in Salisbury. I talk to them almost weekly and can't say enough great things about them. Keep fightin' Gulls and Fight #3 is approaching.

CNU...we handed them their first ever loss as a program...we know how to beat them. Get it done in practice this week and don't ever take a week off or look past a team. Good luck men.

Roll Gulls
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 10, 2007, 10:56:41 AM
Nice win for the Gulls. Several friends up at BSU are sad BSU is leaving the conference. Any word on a future AFCA opponent to fill the place of BSU or to help the conference grow? We need more teams in the mid-atlantic/southern region. Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 10, 2007, 10:59:24 AM
BTW...it's good to post in here again with some "new" faces. I have not posted in a very long time because for awhile it was only about 3 others posting and it was always about the CNU-SU rivalry. It looks like a lot more is going on now than last time I checked it out.

LETS BEAT THE CAPTAINS!! : ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 10, 2007, 11:04:19 AM
Welcome back, pontiac!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 10, 2007, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: Roll Gulls 56 on September 10, 2007, 05:56:16 AM
Pat,
  Relax buddy...I was just giving you a hard time...and yes...I have grown up some and am not going to get on here and be as immature as I used to be. This site is really taking off and it is a great thing to see. It is hard to believe that I have been on here for almost ten years. Keep up the good work. I am now a physician so I am held to a higher standard:)

SU Backer,
  I feel for you and your wife but most of all your son. I know he is a heck of a player and that your senior year is bitter sweet. I am 26 and graduated in 2002. I played four years and miss it more than anything. I am married have a son and one on the way. I hope to make it up to a game this year but not likely until the playoffs if they come closer to Tenn. I write the guys a letter every year before Wesley.

Roll Gulls

Roll Gulls 56:

Are you the same former Gull Defensive player who's brother came up (from Florida, I believe) one year during Homecoming, and wore a beak and the #56 painted on his body?

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 10, 2007, 02:37:35 PM
luvapontiac:

Welcome back to the board.  I know it's early, but I haven't seen any of the CNU fans on the board this week as we get ready for the showdown in Newport News.  The Captains have had the Gulls number the last few years, and the NCAA playoff loss at Seagull Stadium was really difficult to take. 

I think Roll Gulls 56 may be close to the mark with Saturday's prediction.  I wonder how the Captains will prepare for the Gulls?  Traditionally, Salisbury is an Option team, but with the addition od Sheahin, the Gulls have an accurate drop back pocket passer.  Should be a good game, and I understand the Captains are awefully tough at home.

Go Gulls!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on September 10, 2007, 08:01:15 PM

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Roll Gulls 56:

Are you the same former Gull Defensive player who's brother came up (from Florida, I believe) one year during Homecoming, and wore a beak and the #56 painted on his body?


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Well you got it all right except that I played OT not defense...and you left out that he jumped on the field after we scored a TD and celebrated with us in the end zone...Those were the days I tell yah

Roll Gulls
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 10, 2007, 08:43:39 PM
NNAsid

Nice win for the builders.... Looks like the D is doing  a good job.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 10, 2007, 09:31:07 PM
pawesleyfan, i understand the meeting of people, hopefully we will meet at some other time, maybe this week.  you are correct on the blue route on fridays, good luck with that, you never know.  since it is sept u may get lucky with less traffic heading to the shore.  i agree with you about the boys having to protect the ball.  cant figure out why one week a running back can look so good and the next seem tentative. ajax ran real hard last week so i figure he will start this week.  reading the recap of the widener game, it seems like uncw could not overcome their mistakes.  wesley will have to protect the ball and if they do i expect them to come away with an easier win than the last 2 games.  it is certainly better to be 2 - 0 at this point despite not playing their best games.  i think these games will be benificial later in the season and the stronger opponents will help also.  i think they are trying to get lano in the game more but the 3 -4 seems to take him out, he is a beast on blocking and made a great catch between 2 receivers for the winning td.  go wolverines!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 10, 2007, 09:47:30 PM
wesleydad

  Del Val's LB's really made the offence work. They ran some nice schemes. I still wonder why they went to a 4 man front look later  in the game.. Opened up some run lanes.. If the boys come out fired up like they played the last quarter last week they should be fine.
 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 10, 2007, 09:49:05 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 10, 2007, 08:43:39 PM
NNAsid

Nice win for the builders.... Looks like the D is doing  a good job.


Defense is definitely working for us right now.  After losing as much as we had on the front two lines one had to wonder.   But the Fairmont State game is looking better and better for us (they just beat a top-20 North Greenville team) .
Will be very interested in seeing how the EHC/NCWC game goes this weekend as we go to EHC the following.
I'm going to the Salisbury-CNU game (dont worry SU backers on here..I can't tell a dive from a smash play so no scouting :-X).  This was a heck of a game last year in Salisbury and will be interested to see how CNU responds and just how potent salisbury really is.  I'm just praying its not like the last time I went to Salisbury for a Sal-NNA game (we scored, then 77 points later we scored again)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 11, 2007, 07:33:07 AM
Roll Gulls 56:

It good you have you back!  That was my first homecoming at Salisbury as my daughter was a freshman at the time.  I started following the Gulls Football squad from that day on.  Congratulations and best of luck on obtaining you medical degree and getting married.

Additionally, thanks for reminding me that your brother ran onto the field after a touchdown.  I also remember him runnning over to the visitor's side to heckle the opposing fans also  ;D  which was all in good fun.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 11, 2007, 07:34:28 AM
nnasid:

I hope your attendance at the Salisbury/CNU game will bring some much need luck for the Gulls.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 11, 2007, 08:31:19 AM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 11, 2007, 07:34:28 AM
nnasid:

I hope your attendance at the Salisbury/CNU game will bring some much need luck for the Gulls.

Hate to put it this way...but last year didnt help much.....lost in OT
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on September 11, 2007, 10:40:46 AM
To any Wesley fans making the trip to Chester, PA for the Widener game:  Lets see if we can find a place to tailgate before the game!!!

Get the word out and let us know if you find a particular spot where we can "circle the wagons"!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 11, 2007, 11:32:55 AM
nnasid:

The last few games betwen CNU and Salisbury were painful losses for the Gulls  :( .  Hopefully, the tide will turn this season.

In the past, teams use to prepare for Salisbury to defend the option.  The addition of Sheahin adds a wrinke to the Gulls attack, since he is an accurate passer.  It should be an interesting game.


Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bman on September 11, 2007, 11:47:22 AM
dedragon et all travelling from Wesley

see my post on the MAC board related to tailgating/parking etc...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 12, 2007, 08:11:17 AM
I think SU will have CNU's number this game. I am thinking SU 28 CNU 14.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 12, 2007, 09:20:11 AM
       Hope you're right luvapontiac! We certainly owe CNU.....several tough losses over the last few years, but we did have a big win down there a few years back. This team resembles that team in style of play, but with less flash. Tough defense and crisp execution of the offense and very good special teams play have been consistent in the 2 games thus far. The big differences that I see this year vs. last are 1. Confidence- both in the schemes the coaches are putting forth and in each other. 2. Turnover ratio....+1 so far- quite simply if SU stays on the plus side of the turnover margin they can beat anyone on their schedule, if they turn the ball over their offense has not been able to overcome those type of mistakes. 3. Receiver play- Tillage just doesn't drop the ball and can score from anywhere. Others have stepped up too.
     Good Luck this weekend and GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 12, 2007, 07:45:05 PM
hey dedragon and pawesleyfan, i think i am going to park in one of the 3 lots near the field unless they are already full.  seems to be the logical place.  i will take a ride by the school tomorrow to check it out and confirm my tailgating position.  i have to get the word out to family and friends who are coming to the game.  i will post tomorrow evening after my scouting expedition.  i may leave school a little early since i finish teaching at 2 and have already canceled football practice for friday.  i think i will get there about 4 or so at this point.  hope to see as many wesley fans as possible, filling the small v stands and maybe spilling into the widener side.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 12, 2007, 09:53:26 PM
Quote from: luvapontiac on September 12, 2007, 08:11:17 AM
I think SU will have CNU's number this game. I am thinking SU 28 CNU 14.

No way SU scores 28 on CNU's D......I know UMHB scored 51 last week, but SU is nowhere near the talent level of UMHB. I have seen many teams in D3 the past 7 years.....nobody I've seen could beat the UMHB team I saw on Saturday...they were "scary good". UMHB is a team that has handed Mt Union one of only four losses since 1999. 

The SU/CNU series has turned into a very good rivalry. THe game will be a good one, but this biased fan feels CNU will rebound....they probably can't wait to get out of pratice this week and take it out on a real opponent. I would not want to be in a CNU practice this week!!

If anyone is travelling to the game....be safe...see ya Saturday!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 12, 2007, 11:09:36 PM
      CNU85...."no way they score 28"??.......we shall  see Saturday.......some Brockport fans were on this board last week touting their dominance too......
       
   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on September 13, 2007, 05:12:39 AM
Since the current OC has been at Salisbury, there may have been one or two games in 6 years where a defense has shut SU down...when SU doesn't score pts it is because of poor execution and lperformance...I will give credit where credit is due but turnovers not due to big hits and missed assignments not being overpowered is more due to lack of execution than the 11 guys across the ball. I think CNU has an athletic team...but Salisbury this year I feel is the best CNU has seen them for a while especially offensively...and frankly...if we execute the next two weeks like the last two...we can rumble into week 9 against a top 10 Wesley...you never know what can happen in that game...and we will then see just how good MHBU really is.

CNU 85, it is good to see you are still on here. Looking forward to the game this week. I know CNU can be one of the most hostile environments to play in D3. It is the kind of game as a player you love being a part of no matter which side of the ball you are on. Friendly wager, I think you are wrong and Salisbury scores 37 with a defensive/Spec. teams score, 3 offensive TD's and 3 FG's. Updated predicted final score...SU 37 CNU 24
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 13, 2007, 07:41:56 AM
Execution and avoiding turnovers is the key for the Salisbury offense. As far as the Gulls being the best CNU has seen.....time will tell. Salisbury and Mary Hardin-Baylor are similar teams scheme-wise. Both run the option to death, although the Crusaders will get in the I formation a little more. The defenses are also similar, not overly large but very fast. However, it is premature to compare the Gulls to UMHB just yet. Win this week, impressively.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 13, 2007, 10:08:16 AM
        Conrad, I had to jump in for support of a fellow "Gull Nation" guy- I believe Roll Gulls said that this is the best Salisbury team that CNU has seen. I have seen enough SU games to think he is probably pretty close in that assesment, but I think the '04 team with Dustin Johnson, Brad DeHaven, Leroy Satchell, etc. was more talented. You are correct in that this game is a litmus test of sorts....I think SU is up for that test. That said CNU is tough at home ( as are most teams) anyway, hope they all come out healthy and GO GULLS!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 10:14:53 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing the result of this game. I think Salisbury is firing on all cylinders right now and CNU showed it was vulnerable to a good ground game last week. That entirely new linebacker corps is going to get another workout.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 13, 2007, 10:19:58 AM
Conrad:

I just wanted to add that in addition to Salisbury typical option attack, the Gulls has an accurate drop passer that they didn't have in the pass.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 13, 2007, 10:23:10 AM
Pat:

I agree, that the Salisbury/CNU game is going to be interesting and set the tone for the rest of the season for the two programs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 10:41:05 AM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 13, 2007, 10:19:58 AM
I just wanted to add that in addition to Salisbury typical option attack, the Gulls has an accurate drop passer that they didn't have in the pass.

Nice Freudian slip. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 13, 2007, 11:01:38 AM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 13, 2007, 10:08:16 AM
        Conrad, I had to jump in for support of a fellow "Gull Nation" guy- I believe Roll Gulls said that this is the best Salisbury team that CNU has seen. I have seen enough SU games to think he is probably pretty close in that assesment, but I think the '04 team with Dustin Johnson, Brad DeHaven, Leroy Satchell, etc. was more talented. You are correct in that this game is a litmus test of sorts....I think SU is up for that test. That said CNU is tough at home ( as are most teams) anyway, hope they all come out healthy and GO GULLS!!
I wasn't down on the Gulls, I'd love to see them beat all of their nonconference opponents. I've been their biggest supporter over on the South Region Poll board.

Haven't seen the Gulls his year yet but that '04 team was very good. Really should have made more noise during the playoffs, but turnovers will kill you. D.J. was a special player. Even if the defense covered every option, he would bust a tackle and go the distance.

I agree that the ability to be accurate with their down field passes makes them very tough to stop, but option is still what they do.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 13, 2007, 12:08:50 PM
      Conrad,  sorry I misjudged your post - I too don't think SU is in UMHB league just yet. I know what you mean about that '04 playoff loss to CNU....turnovers cost them that game and ended a tremendous run. I take Pat's opinion in good measure because he sees many more games and has a better understanding of how teams stack up from different areas. If he thinks SU can play with CNU this year I like to hear that.  This game is going to be a good one, the stadium at CNU is one of the best in D3 and the crowd is good too.......the visitor stands are not much though. I'll be there win or lose and can honestly say I have never had a bad time at any D3 game I've been at.
      Anybody heard where the ACFC is going and Salisbury in particular? It would be nice to either get in a conference that has a AQ or at least have enough conference teams that would make a good schedule and develop some real rivalries.  GO GULLS!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 13, 2007, 01:46:37 PM
Pat:

Hopefully the Gulls will prevail on Saturday, so the past history with CNU will "fly away" with the pass.    ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on September 13, 2007, 05:06:20 PM
I tell yah...all this talk about this weekend is really getting me excited.

I think that most of what is being written is very true...one thing however I am not real sure about it the difference in talent between now and '04. I will agree with everybody about Dehaven. In my opinion, the best overall ball player I ever played with...and he was only a sophmore my senior year. I think however the comments about DJ were questionable. I agree that when he had the ball in his hands he could do things that were unbelievable. The only negative thing that I have to say about him is that I feel he really never came close to reaching potential...My senior year he was a freshman starting qb...He thrived because he wasn't asked to be the field general and also a captain and leader of the team...he could just be the qb. I don't think that he got better for 4 quarters. I look at Curley and recognize that he doesn't have the athleticism that DJ had but this guy is peaking at the right time. He came into a system and bought into everything. He made it his life to know this playbook and be a master of this offense...and he is darn close to this...if DJ does this and is a master, I think we would be talking about a legend in the D3 arena...however, he is a really talented qb that brought some good seasons to the Gulls and really helped with recruiting...I would argue that the system in place(2 qb) is as good if not better because of the physical and mental preperation of Curley and the change of pace of the new guy.

BTW, I was DJ's roomate...he is a great guy...I am not talking bad about him but just making some comments about how good I think the current situation is.

Roll Gulls
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2007, 07:30:10 PM
Roll Gulls,

good to see you again, too. I'll take that friendly wager.

Pat is right - the LBs for CNU will be tested again. If they play the way they did against Rowan, we'll be ok.

Oh - to the guy who mentioned something about dominance. I never said CNU would dominate the Gulls. I just said the D would not give up 28 points. And Roll Gulls...you agreed...you said 3 offensive TD's and 2 FGs.....that's 27 points if the PATs are good!!!!

It'll be a fun game....CNU wins because they are at home! I have to go look in the newspaper to remember the score I predicted last month.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 13, 2007, 10:28:57 PM


Headed to Chester tomorrow for the Wesley/Widener game so have to do this now

This week could be a telling week for the Conference. all on the road.

Frostburg st @ Randolph-Macon. Have to give the edge to R-M here Fostburg St.
just hasn't been able to get over the hump. Last weeks loss to NNA doesn't look to give a good sense that they will win a game in the conference this year.

Brockport St. @ Cortland St. Cortland St. gets the nod here. B-Port St. takes on the though schedule every year and this years version is no different. Cortland ST. still has that bad taste from lats year NCAA miss.

SSU @ CNU one of the two big showdowns that have regional implications especially for the ACFC schools.  CNU wants to erase last weeks loss and if they want to stay in the race for an at large bid they can't lose here and then not win the USAC. SSU needs to keep an unblemished record the next three weeks with Del Val and an up and coming NNA before the schedule eases. With Welsey on the horizon the last week of October. This is a toss-up. Got to give the home field edge to CNU in a good one.

Wesley @ Widener. The weather could be a factor. Depends on which westher man you listen to in Philly. Going to be cool with dropping temps. great football weather.. under the lights. If Wesley holds onto the ball and doesn't give Widener a short field they will win. Wesley is in the middle of a tough schedule stretch and can ill afford to stumble out of the blocks again this week. Widener had a good lead last week against NCW on turnovers but held on for the win. I look for Wesley to come out with a little more fire this week and a win but it wont' be easy.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ryanfbsport on September 13, 2007, 11:18:26 PM
 I assume no one want to talk about Gallaudet University football team this fall.

  I have one question for Pat Coleman, what if Gallaudet went through the season unbeaten, will they qualify into NCAA Div 3 playoffs.


Ryan
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 13, 2007, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: ryanfbsport on September 13, 2007, 11:18:26 PM
I assume no one want to talk about Gallaudet University football team this fall.

  I have one question for Pat Coleman, what if Gallaudet went through the season unbeaten, will they qualify into NCAA Div 3 playoffs.


Ryan
Welcome to the boards Ryan
If you go to the frint page of the D3 site you will see a quality of wins icon. There you will see  a criteria the NCAA uses to rate teams in regions. But the chances are that Gallaudette making the playoffs would be very slim.

Pat will definately explain this better to you.

Again welcome and keep posting,,,
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 13, 2007, 11:28:37 PM
Aren't they a provisional status?  I could be dead wrong....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 13, 2007, 11:28:45 PM
Quote from: ryanfbsport on September 13, 2007, 11:18:26 PM
I assume no one want to talk about Gallaudet University football team this fall.

  I have one question for Pat Coleman, what if Gallaudet went through the season unbeaten, will they qualify into NCAA Div 3 playoffs.


Ryan
Welcome Ryan. ;)

May I jump in here?  The won-loss record for the four in-region games is a major criterion for earning a Pool B bid.  The 2007 Football Handbook has not been published yet.  If you will follow the discussions on the Pool B board, then you can determine how we fans think that the committee will view Gallaudet's chances.

Good luck to the Bison.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 13, 2007, 11:31:04 PM
I guess I was wrong.  I thought they were a new team?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 13, 2007, 11:42:39 PM
pg04

They are a regular member. I think it is because they are already D3 in other sports. I remember that being discussed before
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 13, 2007, 11:48:05 PM
Thanks...I guess I'm not too update with the NCAA rulebook  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 11:59:02 PM
Gallaudet is a Division III member. It can add a sport at any time and be eligible immediately. (Remember CNU making the playoffs in their first year of football.)

Running the table would leave Gallaudet with a very very low strength of schedule. I would be surprised if the 4-0 in-region record would get them in.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ryanfbsport on September 14, 2007, 12:23:26 AM
Thanks for the question!  Gallaudet's strength of schedule is not that great.   Ed Hottle can coach no matter where he is at. Next game this Saturday vs Greensboro, i am predict that Gally will win by 2 touchdowns.

Ryan
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2007, 12:39:35 AM
Baby steps ... Gallaudet's progress has been great so far.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2007, 12:44:29 AM
Wesley had it's way on O tonight at Widener. They did put the ball on the turf again. Once at the one on third down and once at their own 2 on a muffed punt BUT the play clock had clearly run out and they let the play stand NOT just  one second but a full three coun t and long enough for every one on the Wesley side line to yell before the snap. The referees allowed one player #12 to taunt for the entire second half and then called Wesley for two unsportmanlike penalties. One referee made three questionable calls from 30 yrds away.
  Ok now back to the game. Widener threw a lot of underneath passes and didn't have much luck going down the field . They didn't have a lot of success with the run except for one play in the third quarter that went for 45 yds. Their first drive was capped on a blown coverage and an easy pass for 35yds. 
  Wesley had four overthrown balls that would have gone for Td's .Widener had trouble staying with Beavers and Clark. Beavers beat triple cover a few times. Beavers also had one of the over throws but he threw the ball about 45yds.
  The D played a good game. Didn't get a lot of pressuse on Cambell. They covered very well on routes but it's tough cover comeback routes.

After seeing Del Val and Widener back to back I think that if Del Val gets any offence going they will win. Widener will have trouble with all that speed.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on September 15, 2007, 02:15:05 AM
QuoteWidener threw a lot of underneath passes and didn't have much luck going down the field . They didn't have a lot of success with the run except for one play in the third quarter that went for 45 yds.

Those are both interesting points for the Pride's offense.  They have had a lot of success throwing slant patterns that their speedy receivers turn into big plays.  On its face that sounds similar to Wesley's use of Beavers and Clarke, but the Wolverines seem to try to exploit one-on-one match-ups and Widener likes to set up plays where a receiver makes a catch with other receivers blocking down field for him.

The Pride were reportedly going to try to establish more of a running game this year, but lost a big piece of their line in the preseason.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2007, 02:22:35 AM
gordon
Widener tried a few down the side lines but Wesley D'd them up . The one big play was underthrown but the safties got caught in between and let the receiver thru
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Old Ref on September 15, 2007, 08:27:55 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2007, 02:22:35 AM
gordon
Widener tried a few down the side lines but Wesley D'd them up . The one big play was underthrown but the safties got caught in between and let the receiver thru
Not surprised at all, although surprised Widener scored 17 points. I saw the Widener/NCWC game and they did the same thing, except NCWC did not stop thair underneaths till second half. Stop their running game pretty well. No surprise here.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 15, 2007, 08:41:09 AM
another good win.  the o has to find a way to stop putting the ball on the ground.  pennewell ran great in the second half.  the d did a good job in the second half, but has to take away the slants when it becomes obvious that is all widener was running.  beavers sets the tone again with his speed on the first half reception and the second half kickoff.  overall a good performance against a solid opponent.  the offense looks better each week, minus the fumbles, and has a huge upside when the timing between schatz and clark/beavers begins clicking on the long passes.  the d line did not pressure much and that may be a concern later.  3 - 0 start with a much tougher schedule than in the past is showing the ability of this team.  if they shore up the turnovers, they are going to be tough to deal with as the season goes on.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 15, 2007, 08:50:29 AM
paweselyfan, you are right about the refs.  they did not have a good game.  the taunting was ridiculous and never called.  the umpire was the one who was making all the calls.  it was comical after the unsportsmanlike penalties on wesley, when a widener lineman clearly shoved a wesley player after the play, the same ref felt it only necessary to step in between the 2 players, he was brutal.  i did not notice the play clock incident since widener only has one 25 second clock in the stadium.  it is certainly not the best place to watch a game from the visitor side.  i agree with you on the del val/ widener game.  any o from delval and they win.  i am looking forward to the montclair st game.  i may even take a ride today and see them play springfield, having football withdrawal already with no game to go see.  friday night games are nice, but takes away the usual saturday fun.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2007, 11:29:31 AM
wesleydad

The other play clock was on the big score board in the lower right corner.

I think the D backfield did a good job with the pass D. just one real miscommunication, and the QB threw some passes only his players could catch.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 15, 2007, 12:47:56 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 15, 2007, 08:50:29 AM
paweselyfan, you are right about the refs.  they did not have a good game.  the taunting was ridiculous and never called.  the umpire was the one who was making all the calls.  it was comical after the unsportsmanlike penalties on wesley, when a widener lineman clearly shoved a wesley player after the play, the same ref felt it only necessary to step in between the 2 players, he was brutal. 

Better than the no-call when Schatz shoved an NC Wesleyan player in Week 1.

This stuff goes around and comes around.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 15, 2007, 01:44:24 PM
Salisbury 14-0 at the end of the first.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 15, 2007, 01:50:33 PM
CNU answers 14-7, 8:38 to go in 2nd quarter
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2007, 03:21:38 PM
Conrad

My co-pilot gave me a tour of Chester last nite!!!!!!The Wesley bus probably got back before we got home....

The more I see Larry Beavers the more I like his chances fo maybe playing at the next level. He is as good as any player I have ever seen in the open field. And seeing it at field level is even more impressive.


Nice to see some of the older past players last nite.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 15, 2007, 04:19:50 PM
Brockport rebounds and wins 28-14 over Cortland state.  Meanwhile it looks like Salisbury can't keep it's secret of being a very good team any longer.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 15, 2007, 04:36:05 PM
Looks like a great weekend for the conference so far. Anybody hear/see a score on the Frostburg/Randolph-Macon game yet?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 15, 2007, 04:41:12 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2007, 03:21:38 PM
Conrad

My co-pilot gave me a tour of Chester last nite!!!!!!The Wesley bus probably got back before we got home....

The more I see Larry Beavers the more I like his chances fo maybe playing at the next level. He is as good as any player I have ever seen in the open field. And seeing it at field level is even more impressive.


Nice to see some of the older past players last nite.

Not if they got caught in the traffic that I did last night. I got home just before two. You gotta love the construction on I-95 from Chester to the Delaware line.

In regards to Beavers, as long as he runs well for the scouts next spring, he may get a look. He certainly has a long enough highlight film. He does need to continue to refine his skills as a receiver, run better routes, get strong and keep working hard etc.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2007, 04:43:27 PM
Geesh maybe the NON Conference that is the ACFC is one of the better in the country this year....   And wouldn't it be something if two or even three teams deserve to be in the playoffs!!!!!!!  Good win for B-Port  and another impressive SSU win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2007, 04:48:27 PM
I did forget about that mess on 95.

The way some of these non conference games are shaping up in the east and south east there will be some interesting  title chases.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 15, 2007, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2007, 04:43:27 PM
Geesh maybe the NON Conference that is the ACFC is one of the better in the country this year....   And wouldn't it be something if two or even three teams deserve to be in the playoffs!!!!!!!  Good win for B-Port  and another impressive SSU win.
Don't go overboard, but a 10-0 Wesley and a 9-1 Salisbury (or vice-versa njlincolnlion ;)) had crossed my mind.
Too early to think about that. Both teams have tough ones next week in Montclair and Delaware Valley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 15, 2007, 04:53:49 PM
I think things are very open ended in the east and south as you say.  Every time you think you have a team finally figured out, they lay an egg or play a good game! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 15, 2007, 05:47:18 PM
Conference goes 4-0 this weekend
Wesley's win over Widener Friday night
Salisbury 35-21 over CNU (Salisbury ran 54times for 400 yards..looked like the Gull-train of old.....gulps as we go there in 2 weeks)
Brockport bounces back with a 28-14 win over Cortland (McCormick and Lynch go for 100+ apiece for Bport)
Frostburg knocks off Randy-Mac 20-13

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 15, 2007, 05:52:07 PM
CNU85...you were right! Salisbury did not score 28 on CNU :D

"No way SU scores 28 on CNU's D..."-CNU85

Salisbury 35
#20 CNU 21

I give CNU a lot of credit though. They played tough and their fans showed up in full force. The fans are some of the best in the game.For almost 5,000 people at the game, the atmosphere was terrific. I almost wanted CNU to win just to hear the crowd erupt at the end of the game. They played equal for 3 of the 4 quarters, but the first quarter was the deciding factor of the game. CNU was could not recover from an early 14-0 deficit. Again, great game by CNU. This is a great rivalry that is great for the game, and I know CNU will bounce back and win some great games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 15, 2007, 05:56:37 PM
Quote from: nnasid on September 15, 2007, 05:47:18 PM
Conference goes 4-0 this weekend
Wesley's win over Widener Friday night
Salisbury 35-21 over CNU (Salisbury ran 54times for 400 yards..looked like the Gull-train of old.....gulps as we go there in 2 weeks)
Brockport bounces back with a 28-14 win over Cortland (McCormick and Lynch go for 100+ apiece for Bport)
Frostburg knocks off Randy-Mac 20-13



Great weekend!!  The conference (as small as it is!) is very strong.  I wish the golden eagles didn't have to leave it but the distance plays so much a factor, the NJAC just makes the logical sense, and a chance at a Pool A bid. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 15, 2007, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: luvapontiac on September 15, 2007, 05:52:07 PM
CNU85...you were right! Salisbury did not score 28 on CNU :D

"No way SU scores 28 on CNU's D..."-CNU85

Salisbury 35
#20 CNU 21

I give CNU a lot of credit though. They played tough and their fans showed up in full force. The fans are some of the best in the game.For almost 5,000 people at the game, the atmosphere was terrific. I almost wanted CNU to win just to hear the crowd erupt at the end of the game. They played equal for 3 of the 4 quarters, but the first quarter was the deciding factor of the game. CNU was could not recover from an early 14-0 deficit. Again, great game by CNU. This is a great rivalry that is great for the game, and I know CNU will bounce back and win some great games.

Dang it....I opened my big mouth again! Congrats to SU....played a great game and ran it down the Captains' throats. I'm still trying to decipher the CNU effort. SU is fast, but nowhere near as fast as UMHB - and SU is FAST!

Anyway - congrats to the Gulls...they have figured out how to beat CNU at POMOCO. If CNU can't right the ship (pun intended), uh oh!! It'll be a long season. I'm headed over to the USA South board soon with my game comments. I just wanted to jump this board first, eat some crow, and put my tail between my legs and go home!!

Again - great job by the Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2007, 09:20:24 PM
Conrad

Just trying to get the teams some props....But if these east teams keep losing it might open up a spot or two...But it's way to early to think about.
Quote from: Conrad on September 15, 2007, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2007, 04:43:27 PM
Geesh maybe the NON Conference that is the ACFC is one of the better in the country this year....   And wouldn't it be something if two or even three teams deserve to be in the playoffs!!!!!!!  Good win for B-Port  and another impressive SSU win.
Don't go overboard, but a 10-0 Wesley and a 9-1 Salisbury (or vice-versa njlincolnlion ;)) had crossed my mind.
Too early to think about that. Both teams have tough ones next week in Montclair and Delaware Valley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 16, 2007, 12:28:51 AM
A little deja vu for Huntingdon today. Two years ago against Maryville, HC has a late lead and has MC at a last gasp 4th and long. Our DB makes a great play on the ball on a long pass and gets a bogus interference call to keep the drive alive and eventually MC scores the winning TD on that possession. Today HC up 21-14 very late and has MC at a last gasp 4th and long and MC's receiver makes an obvious push off and makes the catch with NO CALL keeping the drive alive and eventually MC scores the game tying TD on that possession. There was a little extra to the gut punching finish today. On the tying extra point our outside rusher is tackled by MC's end, NO CALL. In the overtime, on MC's possession, on the 2nd down inside the ten as the runner is going down an O-lineman catches him and carries him for three more yards. You guessed it, NO CALL. You might be thinking, well they're just letting them play, but they sure didn't have trouble calling penalties on us during this time frame.
Here's a question for the experts. How did I get through this many years of football and not know that it is a penalty if you try to call timeout when you don't have any left? I could swear that I have seen teams try to call timeouts before and the official just kind of ignored it and said play ball. We got called for that one right before MC tied it late. Is this new or do I not know what I am talking about? Sorry to vent like this, but it was a VERY frustrating last few minutes of the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 16, 2007, 12:30:49 AM
Huntingdon fans, is there anyone to whom you don't want to lose a game more than Maryville?  :(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 16, 2007, 12:32:19 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 16, 2007, 12:30:49 AM
Huntingdon fans, is there anyone to whom you don't want to lose a game more than Maryville?  :(

I can't think of any right now.  :'(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 16, 2007, 08:33:58 AM
Great win today Seagulls!  Now this week becomes a huge game, as the schedule eases up a little until Wesley late in the season.  This could be a special season if they go 4-0 in these first 4 games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 16, 2007, 10:24:40 AM
      Great win on the road in a hostile environment. This game had a true college feel to it - CNU has a tremendous facility, lots of fans, the band, etc. Very enjoyable day, especially the big victory. I look to another tough game this weekend against Del Val. As far as the schedule getting easier until Wesley, I'm not sure about that. Del Val is obviously very good, NNA can play and will play hard all day. Geneva jumping over from the NAIA is for real, Morrisville is typical NewYork-big, physical and tough. Obviously I concede Becker @ Homecoming being the least challenging game on the Gulls' schedule. All that said I truly believe this is the best Gulls' squad since the '04 team, and they can roll into the game in Dover unblemished. They are fun to watch and feel they can play with anyone on their schedule. All teams have injuries and have to deal with them. I haven't seen Barnes play since the 2nd quarter at Brockport-he is a very good backer and they need all the horses for their run. Anyone know his status? See you there Saturday and GO GULLS!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 16, 2007, 10:35:22 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 16, 2007, 12:28:51 AM
Here's a question for the experts. How did I get through this many years of football and not know that it is a penalty if you try to call timeout when you don't have any left? I could swear that I have seen teams try to call timeouts before and the official just kind of ignored it and said play ball. We got called for that one right before MC tied it late. Is this new or do I not know what I am talking about? Sorry to vent like this, but it was a VERY frustrating last few minutes of the game.
Upon further review, according to the play by play we were called for a substitution infraction here. I should have known that. It was just funny timing that the moment our guy signalled for timeout that the flag was thrown right then. My bad. Guess I didn't know what I was talking about. :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 16, 2007, 11:57:45 AM
hawk
Widener had to burn a timeout friday because of that same thing. If you huddle up with 12 it wll be called at the snap unless you call a time out. May be a reason so many teams are now going no huddle. I believe that it's also a defensive  penalty if they huddle up with 12
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2007, 01:59:44 PM
So far this season I have watched games in which all the teams were ranked in the top 25(CNU was ranked 23, 12, and 20th,Rown was 10th, UMHB was 4th), with the exception of the Gulls. In my opinion, the Gulls should be ranked. From what I've seen, they are for real and should be higher than 20. They are better than Rowan.

Good luck to SU the rest of the way. The Wesley game should be fantastic.

Also - nice comments from SU fans about the atmosphere and facilities at CNU. Since some of that is my money I'll say "thanks"!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 16, 2007, 02:59:34 PM
My point was that the first 4 games are the toughest part of the SU schedule until Wesley.  Del Val will be a tough game.  SU should then run the table until they get to Wesley, which will be their toughest game.  You can never take anybody lightly, but when the schedule came out, I figured them to be 2-2 after the first 4 games.  So, they are having a very good year so far, with a long way to go.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 16, 2007, 06:53:07 PM
PA_wesleyfan,

It's time for directions to Wesley Game. It should be an interesting event this Saturday. All your help will be appreciated.

I'll be staying in Wilmington, DE on Friday night. What time should I leave for the game on Sat? Will it be possible to tailgate, or just blow it off, get to Wesley and wing it from there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 16, 2007, 08:39:12 PM
ram1102

There is a parking area across from the field. I think they may charge $5.00
The rest of the parking is street parking around the stadium. There is a race at Dover Downs that day but we can give you a way around the Downs itself that won't be hard to follow.


Wilmington depending on where you are staying is about 50 miles from Dover.
If the traffic isn't too heavy you can get down there in 45mins
I will get back to you with directions later. I want to make sure I have the correct streets names to get you around old rt1 race traffic. I know the streets just never had to pay attention to the namrs

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 16, 2007, 09:04:33 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 16, 2007, 08:39:12 PM
ram1102

There is a parking area across from the field. I think they may charge $5.00
The rest of the parking is street parking around the stadium. There is a race at Dover Downs that day but we can give you a way around the Downs itself that won't be hard to follow.


Wilmington depending on where you are staying is about 50 miles from Dover.
If the traffic isn't too heavy you can get down there in 45mins
I will get back to you with directions later. I want to make sure I have the correct streets names to get you around old rt1 race traffic. I know the streets just never had to pay attention to the namrs




Thanks a lot !!!  Should be a fun Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on September 16, 2007, 11:59:05 PM
Ralph and Hawks

the Q was anyone u want to lose to less .... uh...Lagrange

we just back after beating thier JV 25-14..... i hated the murval loss.. listened to it.... but would hate to lose to lagrange worse.... i no a bunch of those folks...

we tail gaited... more huntington folks than lagrange fans...in lagrange

bunch of family showed up.... who went to or r now going to lagrange (it is  just on the other side of the 'hooch' (west alabam for chatahoochie) from the  farm

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 17, 2007, 07:45:35 AM
Quote from: rams1102 on September 16, 2007, 06:53:07 PM
PA_wesleyfan,

It's time for directions to Wesley Game. It should be an interesting event this Saturday. All your help will be appreciated.

I'll be staying in Wilmington, DE on Friday night. What time should I leave for the game on Sat? Will it be possible to tailgate, or just blow it off, get to Wesley and wing it from there.

Leave early!!!! As early as possible. Take Route 1 down from Wilmington. Take the North Dover exit. This is one exit above the track. After the toll, procede the the stoplight. Go straight.You are now on McKee Road but the name with change to Saulsbury Rd. At the third stop light take a left on to Walker Road. At the second light , take a right. You will run into the north end of the field. You can park at the south end and tailgate there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2007, 08:15:45 AM
CNU85:

Good luck the rest of the way with the Captains.  The Salisbury/CNU series is is good for both teams due to the proximity.  The Gulls have trouble with the Captains at Sea Gull Stadium, and do well at a hostile setting like POMOCO.............. Go figure.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2007, 08:22:04 AM
rams1102:

It should be a great game this weekend between the Red Hawks and Wolverines.  Two undefeated teams earlier in the season may dtermine how the rest of the season unfolds.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2007, 12:16:42 PM
Congratulations to Salisbury on the latest rankings at #25.  Also a good pic of Valdase Morris (from the Albright game) on D3Football.

The Gulls must stay focused and take it one game at a time for the rest of the season.  It should be a good game with Salisbury and Delaware Valley who are thinking about "payback" from last year.  It should be a great game with Montclair travelling to Wesley this weekend.  I'll be interested in Roll Gulls 56 score prediction this week.

The ACFC teams have all performed very well so far.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 17, 2007, 12:30:32 PM
Quote from: Conrad on September 17, 2007, 07:45:35 AM
Quote from: rams1102 on September 16, 2007, 06:53:07 PM
PA_wesleyfan,

It's time for directions to Wesley Game. It should be an interesting event this Saturday. All your help will be appreciated.

I'll be staying in Wilmington, DE on Friday night. What time should I leave for the game on Sat? Will it be possible to tailgate, or just blow it off, get to Wesley and wing it from there.

Leave early!!!! As early as possible. Take Route 1 down from Wilmington. Take the North Dover exit. This is one exit above the track. After the toll, procede the the stoplight. Go straight.You are now on McKee Road but the name with change to Saulsbury Rd. At the third stop light take a left on to Walker Road. At the second light , take a right. You will run into the north end of the field. You can park at the south end and tailgate there.


Thanks for your directions !!! Should I leave at 8AM or 9AM ?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 17, 2007, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2007, 12:16:42 PM
Congratulations to Salisbury on the latest rankings at #25.  Also a good pic of Valdase Morris (from the Albright game) on D3Football.

Not to mention making their debut at #6 in the South Region Fan Poll (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4788.585)  :D  Congrats!
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Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2007, 01:03:05 PM
Ron:

You're right, I saw the South Regional poll after I posted ;D .  The Salisbury coaches have to keep the players focused on each game and team they play.  We all know when players start reading the "hype" and a letdown occurs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 17, 2007, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on September 17, 2007, 12:30:32 PM
Quote from: Conrad on September 17, 2007, 07:45:35 AM
Quote from: rams1102 on September 16, 2007, 06:53:07 PM
PA_wesleyfan,

It's time for directions to Wesley Game. It should be an interesting event this Saturday. All your help will be appreciated.

I'll be staying in Wilmington, DE on Friday night. What time should I leave for the game on Sat? Will it be possible to tailgate, or just blow it off, get to Wesley and wing it from there.

Leave early!!!! As early as possible. Take Route 1 down from Wilmington. Take the North Dover exit. This is one exit above the track. After the toll, procede the the stoplight. Go straight.You are now on McKee Road but the name with change to Saulsbury Rd. At the third stop light take a left on to Walker Road. At the second light , take a right. You will run into the north end of the field. You can park at the south end and tailgate there.


Thanks for your directions !!! Should I leave at 8AM or 9AM ?
Probably 8
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 17, 2007, 03:02:06 PM
Quote from: Conrad on September 17, 2007, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on September 17, 2007, 12:30:32 PM
Quote from: Conrad on September 17, 2007, 07:45:35 AM
Quote from: rams1102 on September 16, 2007, 06:53:07 PM
PA_wesleyfan,

It's time for directions to Wesley Game. It should be an interesting event this Saturday. All your help will be appreciated.

I'll be staying in Wilmington, DE on Friday night. What time should I leave for the game on Sat? Will it be possible to tailgate, or just blow it off, get to Wesley and wing it from there.

Leave early!!!! As early as possible. Take Route 1 down from Wilmington. Take the North Dover exit. This is one exit above the track. After the toll, procede the the stoplight. Go straight.You are now on McKee Road but the name with change to Saulsbury Rd. At the third stop light take a left on to Walker Road. At the second light , take a right. You will run into the north end of the field. You can park at the south end and tailgate there.


Thanks for your directions !!! Should I leave at 8AM or 9AM ?
Probably 8


Thank you again for your help.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 17, 2007, 04:25:40 PM
ram1102

I                                                       
                                                                                                                                 fugured that Conrad would chime in with the directions to the tee for you. Those were the same ones I
was going to give you but mine probably would have been longeeeeeeeeer!!!!! I'll have to listen to the GREAT WDEL broadcast this week.
With 6 home games I have to chose only two or three because when ther playoffs roll around I need my honeydoo list completed!!!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 04:35:33 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2007, 08:15:45 AM
CNU85:

Good luck the rest of the way with the Captains.  The Salisbury/CNU series is is good for both teams due to the proximity.  The Gulls have trouble with the Captains at Sea Gull Stadium, and do well at a hostile setting like POMOCO.............. Go figure.

Thanks! Any hoops schedules out yet? Does CNU and Lincoln get hooked up again for another shootout?
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Post by: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 04:36:25 PM
Congrats to Salisbury. I posted yesterday (maybe Saturday) that I felt they were a ranked team.
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Post by: wesleydad on September 17, 2007, 08:18:15 PM
ram 1102, make sure u leave early.  the directions you were given will get you around the main traffic near dover downs.  tailgating is encouraged at wesley, at least by the parents, come on down and enjoy.  we will be leaving around 830 from media, pa and should be there by 10 unless the traffic is crazy.  we hang around after the game also.  look me up, usually near the fenced in area on the left when you pull in.  i will be wearing an army bucket hat.  i am looking forward to the game, another step up in opponent for wesley from past years.  the game should be fun, wesley is improving each week, except for the trunovers.  see you there.

pawesleyfan, i understand the hunnydo list, lucky for me, my son is on the team and my wife goes to the games too.  if all goes as expected you will have several playoff games to see in dover.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 18, 2007, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 17, 2007, 08:18:15 PM
ram 1102, make sure u leave early.  the directions you were given will get you around the main traffic near dover downs.  tailgating is encouraged at wesley, at least by the parents, come on down and enjoy.  we will be leaving around 830 from media, pa and should be there by 10 unless the traffic is crazy.  we hang around after the game also.  look me up, usually near the fenced in area on the left when you pull in.  i will be wearing an army bucket hat.  i am looking forward to the game, another step up in opponent for wesley from past years.  the game should be fun, wesley is improving each week, except for the trunovers.  see you there.

pawesleyfan, i understand the hunnydo list, lucky for me, my son is on the team and my wife goes to the games too.  if all goes as expected you will have several playoff games to see in dover.

I'm looking forward to a little tailgate and a good game. Haven't been down there in a while. It will bring back some old memories. If my Red Hawks can give it 110% for 60 minutes it should be a good game. Your boys are a tough crew. I'll try to look you up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 18, 2007, 01:51:57 PM
njlincolnlion,

Your gulls are looking good this year. Congrats in breaking the Top 25. Did your daughter graduate yet?

Who would of thought we have a chance to get out of the gate 3-0. I'm sure Wesley will have a lot to say, but we have developed nicely this year. Sat will be a real test for the Red Hawks.

Good luck to you guys the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 18, 2007, 03:39:01 PM
cnu85:

I haven't seen the B-ball schedule yet, but the Captains have played the Lions tough.  With Lincoln, a provisional D2  :( , they will probably schedule alot of games with the CIAA teams where they will eventually become members.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 18, 2007, 03:47:11 PM
rams1102:

My daughter graduated last December and is back in New Jersey working and going to grad school. 

It is interesting to see both Salisbury undefeated early in the season.  I believe it was last yearthis time when the Gulls on the Red Hawks at Sam Mills Stadium with MSU "sticking it to Salisbury.  I think that game was a turning point for both clubs for the remainder of the season.  Hopefully you could help out the Gulls this year with a win in Dover, but that's a pretty tall order.  Good luck this weekend!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: IchKriegIhnNichtHoch on September 19, 2007, 08:50:42 AM
PA Wesleyfan

It is only a penalty if you BREAK the huddle with 12 players.  You are allowed to have 13 players in the huddle at one time so long as you dont break the huddle...And yes this is an advantage of goin no huddle like Wesley does.  If it were a penalty to have 12 men in the huddle...Every team would get penalized five times a game when they change personell groups. 

As far as defense goes...You can have more then eleven on the playing field untill the ball is snapped.  If there is a rule against having 12 in the huddle on D then it is single-handedly the most uncalled penalty in sports...Kinda like the offsides penalty on the kickoff...The refs let it slide most of the time unless its very obvious. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 19, 2007, 10:28:25 AM
Somebody bored in Germany?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 19, 2007, 04:25:57 PM
Ich

I understand the rule I guess I just understated it. As usual I don't always type the whole thought proccess.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on September 19, 2007, 11:44:28 PM
Wesley has been gaining strength every week last week a tough weidner team gave wesley all they could handle for two quarters.  But in the end the Wolverines came out and clawed out a win.  If Monclair can score on a tough wesley defense then they might have a chance that is if they can hold Wesley's multi tooled offense.  Though wesley lost their starting quarterback, full back, tackle, and guard it seems as if they have picked up right where they left off minus the turnovers.  Biggest lost was Chris Warrick and the offensive players from last year.  Beavers, Clarke, Lano, Scanlon, Jackson, Pennewell, and Knight have all proved themselves in the first three games.  If Schatz picks up his game a little more settles in and makes the throws the Hawks are in for a beat down.  The O line needs to pick up their game a little bit.  Now that they have a mobile quarterback they need to never let up a sack(sorry Warrick) but Chris wasn't the most fleet of foot.  If the game is anything like the Del Val game or the others we could be in for a heck of a game.  Will be in attendence for the game.  And yes it is absolutely necessary to arrive in Delaware at least by 9 in the morning NASCAR takes over everything in Delaware.  I myself am coming down friday night.  Go Wolverines Beat MSU
Good luck boys, No TURNOVERS or SACKS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 20, 2007, 11:22:19 AM
I don't remember Warrick getting sacked all that much. He had good pocket presence and he also knew were he was going with the football. That saves a lot of sacks, but he wasn't exactly a lead foot. But I remember him scrambling out trouble quite a bit to make a big play down the field.

Yes, Schatz is probably a better athlete. His pocket presence and decision making are getting better. I think he has improved each week. His completion percentage isn't great, but the receivers have dropped quite a few too. I think most teams would take a 9:3 touchdown to interception ratio. He's probably had the best three games of any new starter in the program's history.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on September 20, 2007, 01:42:00 PM
It is easy to get down on Schatz.  The only thing we have to compare him to, is the former 4-year starter with every record in the Wesley stat book.  In fact I got down on him after the first game.  But here is what I have seen at every game this year. 

First... Schatz is taking the right number of steps in his drops.  Not a big deal you might want to think.  But, in the first game, everyone saw that he had happy feet in the pocket and all the timing was off.  By game three, he stands in there and takes a hit after the throw.

Second... controlling the pre-snap.  Many parts to the Wesley offense seemed to be in the wrong formations early on.  By game three, Schatz is controlling pre-snap with ease.

Third... Making the short throw.  Schatz has got a big arm, really.  In the early games, he was over throwing (intensity) the short throws.  By game three, he is hitting Beavers, Lanouette, and Clark underneath with catchable balls and letting their emmense athletic abilities make the play. 

The only things that I would like to see him do better (and I'm sure Coach Knapp and others are working on every day in practice) are this:

First... Carrying out fakes after handoffs - and better ball fakes on play action.
and Second...  Put a little air under the ball on deep routes. 

Those two things will give him a) more time in the pocket b) get linebackers a step out of position on run plays and c) about 5 more TD's, cause Beavers is a rocket, Clark has a way of getting lost in the secondary, and Lanouette is a beast.

I have to commend Wesley for scheduling early tests, including this weekend with Montclair.  It isn't what the home crowd is used to, but it will make this team better by the end of the season. 

Wesley has wiped the last two years clean, and has/is developing its new identity... at 3-0. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 20, 2007, 04:36:14 PM
The one thing that is not getting much attention so far is the way the O line has worn down opponents D lines in the second half. Pennewell had 181 yrds in the second half last week and 90+ in the second half against NCW. Jackson had a big second half against Del-Val. That certainly helps in the Shatz growth proccess. And the receivers feed off that and get even more distance between them and the db's.

So far all the opponenets have come out fired up to play Wesley and that won't change, but the Wolvereines have weathered each storm and get better each week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 20, 2007, 05:23:19 PM
  Roll Gulls........don't let us down, so far you have been money on the SU games. Delaware Valley this week.....what do you think? I think the Gulls are ready, but can't overlook anyone, especially a team they beat last year in a ECAC bowl game.
The top 25 ranking is nice, but I feel way different about that stuff vs. 4 years ago. When I was a "newbie" to D3 I felt insulted every time the Gulls were not ranked. Now after seeing that there are many good teams playing in a lot of places, the rankings are not real important to me, I realize now just how hard it is to win in college football at this level. All these guys were high school "all stars" of some sort and if you are on the field-you can play, no question! Anyway the recognition is certainly great for the team and the school. get 'em this Saturday guys......GO GULLS!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 20, 2007, 08:21:35 PM
conrad, dedragon, and pawesleyfan.  it is interesting to read all the analysis about jason schatz.  all your points are quite true.  dedragon, your critique is excellent.  jason has talked about what he needs to do to improve after each game and is certainly working on all those things.  he is his harshest critic and eventhough he had not played qb since a senior in high school, over 3 years ago, he knows what he has to improve and has not been satisfied with his performance.  i agree, he has gotten better each week and is more comfortable at qb.  the drops were way more frustrating to us as fans than they were to him.  he is not concerned with his stats, only the final score.  3-0 as a starter is not bad against the competition they have played.  this week should be a good test and i believe the team will continue to improve.  as wesleyfan24 stated, "if schatz picks up his game a little more, settles in, and makes the throws, the hawks are in for a beat down."  i am not sure about the beat down, but i do know that if a little more air is under the long passes, more td's will be scored.  if any of you guys are down there this week, look me up in the tailgating lot, i will have an army bucket hat on, parked near the fence on the left as you come in.  it would be nice to meet some or all of you.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 20, 2007, 08:51:22 PM
article for the Wolverines

http://www.newszap.com/articles/2007/09/20/dm/central_delaware/sports/dsnspt02.txt
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 20, 2007, 09:36:44 PM
Conrad


I know you were a good distance from the Wesley sideline the other night but it was  nice to actually see cheerleaders cheering and getting the crowd into the game. I know a certain person I sit with and I were cheering along Maybe Wesley should consider putting up platforms at either end of the bleachers for that purpose!!!! Especially since there are actually more than 5 girls on the squad I know the sidelines are NOT big enough to accomodate that.  Uncle Frank (OUR pep band)gets it going  but it certainly had a different feel with the crowd getting into the.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 20, 2007, 09:49:48 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 20, 2007, 09:36:44 PM
Conrad


I know you were a good distance from the Wesley sideline the other night but it was  nice to actually see cheerleaders cheering and getting the crowd into the game. I know a certain person I sit with and I were cheering along Maybe Wesley should consider putting up platforms at either end of the bleachers for that purpose!!!! Especially since there are actually more than 5 girls on the squad I know the sidelines are NOT big enough to accomodate that.  Uncle Frank (OUR pep band)gets it going  but it certainly had a different feel with the crowd getting into the.

Is Uncle Frank, related to  Visconti !!! If so I really enjoyed him in 00 & 01 !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 20, 2007, 10:25:29 PM
ram
When you see or him you will know!!!  ;) Wish I could make it this week, should be a playoff atmosphere. will be listening on the pc
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on September 21, 2007, 06:15:48 AM
Well it is that time of the week again. I usually get the predictions in earlier than this but somebody thought it would be a great idea to make me be on call 5 out of 7 days...anyways...let me preface by for SU and Wesley, til week 9...THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME FOR BOTH OF THEM...If they go 2-0 this week, I believe we are likely to see a top 10 game in week 9 and two playoff teams regardless of the outcome of that game. So lets start:

Brockport vs. FSU- I believe that both of these teams this year are underated. I think that Brockport is strong and is going to be in every game they play this year and FSU will be tough and fight game in and game out...I think that the oline and "pound it down your throat" offense of Bport is too much... I think they win but closer than the experts think...final score Bport 23 FSU17

Montclair vs. Wesley-I still think that Wesley has one of the most athletic teams in D3. I think Montclair will be up for the game but this is where great teams rise. I think that this will be a blowout...Wesley knows what needs to be done...final score...Wesley 42 Montclair 20...with two non offensive tds might I add.

Finally, Del. Valley vs. SU- This is the game of the year for SU. Win this and cont. to get better and you will have your shot against top 10 Wesley in 5 weeks. I think the SU offense is way above last years as is there defense. I think Del. Valley played Wesley tough but a different kind of offense. I don't think they will be ready for the option that we run this year. I suspect there offense to not be very flashy. Therefore, I think that with the right mentality from SU this can be another big win...Final Score...SU 48 Del. Valley 17...with a three TD passing game from Sheanin.

BTW, Keith and Pat, great article on ATN about McMinnville. My wife was raised there which means when I am done with my training you know where we have a good chance of residing. In-laws still live there.

Roll Gulls baby
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 21, 2007, 08:58:04 AM
Forgot one Roll Gulls
we go to Emory & Henry
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 21, 2007, 09:36:59 AM
Quote from: Roll Gulls 56 on September 21, 2007, 06:15:48 AM
BTW, Keith and Pat, great article on ATN about McMinnville. My wife was raised there which means when I am done with my training you know where we have a good chance of residing. In-laws still live there.

Roll Gulls baby

Thanks -- I'll let Keith know. If you end up there you will see some great football and a nice atmosphere.

I should ask Keith to compare it to CNU. I haven't seen CNU play at home but the new stadium and the good crowds make me wonder if it's comparable.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on September 21, 2007, 10:31:47 PM
This week the picks aren't that difficult
Wesley 34 Mon. St. 10
The Wolverines will dominate the Hawks offense tomorrow I look for the Wesley backfield to find another producer in the back field.  Week 4 all the expectations come to light.  With Montclair keeping an eye on Beavers and Clarke I see Lano, Scanlon and all the little scrapy Wolverine backs to get their touches and lift Wesley to another consecutive win at home.  Schatz is going to have an amazing game.  With Coach Knapp calling the plays and the skill all over the offense its only a matter of when not if its going to happen.  That said i give Wesley the win, oh i hope the Hawks found a hotel somewhere in town.(Race Week)
Sal. 24 Del Val 21
Don't get to cocky Salisbury, Delaware Valley has a good team will make it a hard game if left in the game till the second half.
Frostburg 3 Brockport 17
Don't think that Frostburg has what it takes to beat a tough and huge Brockport.  Over the past 4 years Frostburg has slowly declined anyone have any clue why?
E&H 31 Newport News 24
Too much E&H, News will have their share of wins just not tomorrow.
           Good luck to all the teams tomorrow.  And go Wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 21, 2007, 11:16:24 PM
Good luck to Current Conference foe Wesley and future conference foe Montclair State!! Should be a good game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 12:43:32 AM
A couple of toughies this week

NNA @ E&H  NNA has the D but can they score enough?  I give the nod to E&H. 

FSU @ B-Port St  B-Port got spanked by SSU but rebounded against Cortland st.
FSU may not win a conference game this year.. B-Port wins here

Del-Val @ SSU Del-Val played a good 3 and a half quarters against Wesley with a swaming D. they are quick but they need much more O. SSU can't afford a let down
here and their O is on a roll. Del-Val has had 2 weeks to get ready and they will need to hold on to the ball to keep SSU's O off the field. SSU will win this game


Montclair St @ Wesley  If Wesley puts the ball on the turf this week they lose....
Wesley's O line has been wearing D lines down in the second half. The Wolverines
have put up big numbers on the ground after half time. Jason Schatz has got to put just a bit more air under his passes to the twins speedsters. MSU beat a good Springfield team last week but gave up 250 rushing yrds last week but nothing in the air.
Wesley has to play a full 60 mins to win this week . I give Wesley a slight edge here
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 12:53:41 PM
Huntingdon 14-Adrian 13 at end of first quarter. Adrian went up 13-0 early. HC QB Golson went out with ankle injury. Ridgeway with two TD passes to put HC into the lead.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 01:04:37 PM
Adrian drives down and has incomplete pass on 4th and goal but HC called for interference. AC scores on 2nd down and misses 2 pt conversion. AC 19-HC 14
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 01:10:13 PM
wesley/ montclair  delayed til 3:30 no ref!!! caught in traffic BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 01:17:42 PM
After HC punts then intercepts at 50. HC drive and another Ridgeway TD pass.  Goes for two. HC 22-AC 19.

Turning into a real barn burner.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 22, 2007, 01:18:01 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 01:10:13 PM
wesley/ montclair  delayed til 3:30 no ref!!! caught in traffic BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Looks like a thunderstorm is rolling in too!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 01:19:53 PM
that rumble is either from the race track of the fans!!!! boy will those refs get some Stuff today!!!


Guess the radio guys will have to fill time with some old war stories aye Conrad!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 01:23:38 PM
Adrian returns kickoff to HC 20. Granger Shook intercepts to get the ball back for HC.

Halftime score; Huntingdon 22 Adrian 19


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 22, 2007, 02:01:40 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 01:10:13 PM
wesley/ montclair  delayed til 3:30 no ref!!! caught in traffic BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NASCAR comes to Dover two times a year.  I hope that Wesley schedules around that next year.  The Wesley SID or AD can get the 2008 and 2009 dates in advance.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 02:03:34 PM
Adrian goes three and out to start 2nd half. HC drives 74 yds. for Ridgeway's 4th TD pass, the second to Broderick Smith.

HC 29 - AC 19


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 02:08:06 PM
Salisbury 46 yrd fg at the half SSU 10- Del-Val 7
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 22, 2007, 02:10:37 PM
come on salisbury.....we dont wanna go up there again with you after a loss
GULP

Builders trail 21-7 with 70 seconds left in half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 02:13:52 PM
Adrian responds with a drive but HC intercepts at the one.


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 02:16:16 PM
Del Val has held Salisbury to 79 yrds rushing on 30 carries
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 22, 2007, 02:18:58 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 02:16:16 PM
Del Val has held Salisbury to 79 yrds rushing on 30 carries

after seeing Salisbury...I'd have to say Del Val is fast on D....or else they can tackle better than CNU!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 22, 2007, 02:20:57 PM
Brockport leads Frostburg 28-0 at the half. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 02:24:03 PM
Adrian drives and misses 25 yd field goal. Still HC 29- AC 19.


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 02:34:47 PM
Adrian TD pass. Now HC 29-AC 26 with about 9 minutes left.


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 02:35:36 PM
CNU

They are fast. Wesley wore them down with their size late.The way the top teams in the east are playing. The south and North may move some teams post season there  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 22, 2007, 02:38:44 PM
Hawks, is QB Golson injured?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 02:41:03 PM
Ridgeway throws interception on 3rd and long. AC has ball inside HC 25.


Yes, Ralph. Golson went out with an ankle injury in first quarter.
So far Ridgeway has done a great job in his place. This int was his first real mistake.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 02:44:17 PM
AC has 4th and goal at the 5. FG ties it at 29-29.

Not sure of time left, about 4 or 5 minutes I think.


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 02:53:42 PM
HC has to punt. AC has ball at own 20 with about a minute left. AC throws two incomplete passes stopping the clock and has to punt back to us. :53 left and HC has it at own 43.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 02:59:16 PM
Ridgeway scrambles for what would have been 2nd first down of possession getting close to FG range but holding moves it back. Looks like OT.

This OT needs to turn out better than last week.
AC won toss but chose to go on offense first.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 03:06:31 PM
AC receiver wide open for TD on second play. AC 36- HC 29.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 22, 2007, 03:10:15 PM
C'mon Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 03:13:01 PM
Incomplete on 4th and 8. Adrian wins 36-29.

Wow. Spotted them 13 points early then blew the ten point lead late. OT loss for the second week in row and this is quickly becoming the road trip from H-E-double hockey sticks.  :'(

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 04:36:25 PM
There is one foul mouthed person getting on the air . Geesh if they beep you'll not here the game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on September 22, 2007, 04:39:02 PM
Hawks 88

it was a great game to listen to... hate to lose.... still ... a great game

got another tough one this week in dover

we gave up close to 70 pounds/ man across the line... played hard...

keep the faith

Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 04:40:43 PM
montclair reciever pushes down db and gets a TD NO CALL
pat blocked 13-
10
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 22, 2007, 04:42:41 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 04:40:43 PM
montclair reciever pushes down db and gets a TD NO CALL

Are you seeing it or is it based on a radio broadcast?  Sometimes the broadcasts tend to be biased and/or exaggerated. 

Not saying you are wrong but it must not have been too obvious!  Especially on home turf! 

Anyway, whats the score??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 04:44:06 PM
oooops Pennewll goes 62 for the td..17-13 wesley .two td's in 14 secs. This is where the D has to suck it up with  no rest
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 22, 2007, 04:45:13 PM
Sounds like a barnburner already!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 04:46:02 PM
pg4 This guy from WDEL is a long time anouncer and is not biased. Calls a good game both ways.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 04:47:28 PM
Quote from: pg04 on September 22, 2007, 04:45:13 PM
Sounds like a barnburner already!
not much D.
Schatz missed a receiver in the endzone on second series
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 04:55:06 PM
Wesley D holds inside 5 fg MSU 17-16 Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 05:02:29 PM
Wesley  D holds three and out all three plays for a loss.  Pennewell averaging 10 yrds a carry
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 05:12:51 PM
Schatz 53 yrds to Beavers 24-16 Wesley. Welsey D has tightened up and MSU has three and out twice in a row
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 05:17:48 PM
wesley  fumbles punt inside 20 , 3 min to go in half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 22, 2007, 05:18:12 PM
Salisbury 36 Del. Val 16
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 05:20:39 PM
D holds MSU to fg 24 -19  half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 05:54:16 PM
MSU runs the kickoff for a td 27-24 MSU. Special team have been bad for both teams
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2007, 06:25:27 PM
Quote from: AF4 on September 22, 2007, 04:39:02 PM
Hawks 88

it was a great game to listen to... hate to lose.... still ... a great game

got another tough one this week in dover

we gave up close to 70 pounds/ man across the line... played hard...

keep the faith

Go Hawks
AF4,
I was impressed with Ridgeway in the JV game I saw last year. Sounds we will be solid at QB for '08 and '09.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 06:26:53 PM
MSU 27 WC 24 end of 3rd
Clarke got behind D but couldn't hook up with Schatz
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 07:08:31 PM
Schatz throws int from 14 no time outs left third int of the game two in end zone

Pennewell 213 yrds rushing Wesley 5 turnovers

Wesley out gains MSU 451 to 251

Wesley has to run the table from here on out!!! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on September 22, 2007, 08:54:33 PM
Hawks 88

i think ridgeway has a new job.... we shall see

be good...have a great wk

keep the faith

Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 22, 2007, 09:46:57 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 04:36:25 PM
There is one foul mouthed person getting on the air . Geesh if they beep you'll not here the game
That was Montclair's DC
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 09:57:23 PM
it thought that it was probably a coach.. so i guess all the fans could here him then??

tough loss Conrad!!! the D seemed to take it up a level in the second half.


Tough to get in the red zone that many times and come away empty.

Too bad the passing didn't click
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 22, 2007, 10:26:40 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2007, 09:57:23 PM
it thought that it was probably a coach.. so i guess all the fans could here him then??

tough loss Conrad!!! the D seemed to take it up a level in the second half.


Tough to get in the red zone that many times and come away empty.

Too bad the passing didn't click
Six trips into MSU territory in the 2nd half, no points. Story of the game. Have to credit the Red Hawks and their enthusiastic DC  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 23, 2007, 07:55:57 AM
    Great win Gulls!, final score does not indicate how tough this game was though.  Del Val battled hard all day, and I think they will compete very well for their conference title. Defense for SU was out standing all day, 3 picks and 1 of those by a D-end which effectively ended DelVal's comeback attempt. Offense has big play capability every time they touch the ball. I was impressed with Fisher at fullback..255 lbs. and a hard runner- DelVal's LBs and safety were taking instead of giving hits on that guy. Congrats to Montclair, Wesley is very tough at home (and on the road too), but I'm sure Wesley will bounce back next week- just hoping NNA doesn't! Roll Gulls- SU didn't put up 48 but still a big win! keep the karma and GO GULLS!   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Roll Gulls 56 on September 23, 2007, 09:26:38 AM
SUbacker,
  Maybe I got a little overzealous but again a great win for the Sea Gulls. I think they should crack the top 20. The next four games are what I would call trap games. All games they should win handily and continue to get better coming into Wesley...The only concern I had(and maybe because I was an olineman in college) is the five sacks given up by the Gulls. I am gonna call out a challenge to them for the upcoming week. DON'T LET THE D TOUCH THE QB BEHIND THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE...We will play much better teams later in the season and we have to be able to have some time to pass the ball the few times we do pass it. I they get five sacks out of 12 passing plays...I will put 9 men in the box regardless of down and fill every gap. Pass protection is huge.

  I tell you this is exciting stuff. Congrats to Montclair...I was hoping Wesley was 8-0 coming into Salisbury but now they will have at least one blemish. I cannot wait for that game. Looking at the schedule ahead, that game is really the only proverbial test left. If the Gulls can hand Wesley a defeat at there place and hang on for a 10-0 season...could we argue to be the #1 in the East or #2 in the South? I think that depends on how Montclair ends and also the TX teams, whether they beat each other or one team prevails. I have that feeling baby...It might be a magical year!

Roll Gulls

Predictions will be in earlier this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 23, 2007, 11:05:58 AM
NASCAR comes to Dover two times a year.  I hope that Wesley schedules around that next year.  The Wesley SID or AD can get the 2008 and 2009 dates in advance.

Ralph

The game was Scheduled late this summer. I think both teams should be commended for getting together at such a late date!!! Also the game was going to be played at MSU but there was a reason it was changed. Wesley has always tried to avoid race weekend. Most years they have been away.
I think there is probably another Explaination for the no show by the refs. If they would have been at Wesley two hrs prior to the game I cannot believe that it took them 5 hrs beyond that to get to Dover!!!! If it did shame on them :(
I think you said before that Wesley HAS to improve their Scheduling!!!! WELL THEY DID !!! They do the best they can with the limited teams that will play them!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 23, 2007, 11:13:29 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 23, 2007, 11:05:58 AM
NASCAR comes to Dover two times a year.  I hope that Wesley schedules around that next year.  The Wesley SID or AD can get the 2008 and 2009 dates in advance.

Ralph

The game was Scheduled late this summer. I think both teams should be commended for getting together at such a late date!!! Also the game was going to be played at MSU but there was a reason it was changed. Wesley has always tried to avoid race weekend. Most years they have been away.
I think there is probably another Explaination for the no show by the refs. If they would have been at Wesley two hrs prior to the game I cannot believe that it took them 5 hrs beyond that to get to Dover!!!! If it did shame on them :(
I think you said before that Wesley HAS to improve their Scheduling!!!! WELL THEY DID !!! They do the best they can with the limited teams that will play them!!!!!
Great points all!  A well-deserved +1!  Thanks for the background.

I had forgotten that that was the nature of this game.  When NASCAR comes to the track just north of Ft Worth, no one goes anywhere within 10 miles of the track if they don't have to, and that is on the wide open plains of north Texas.  :-\

PA Wesleyfan, I don't think that you were hurt too badly by that win.

MSU's OWP and OOWP should be pretty good, and we can look to see what impact that has on Pool B bid.

(Click here for the 2007 Football Handbook.  OWP and OOWP are explained in Appendix J. (http://www.ncaa.org/library/handbooks/football/2006/2006_d3_football_handbook.pdf))
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 23, 2007, 11:23:38 AM
Ralph
The way the east is playing can you see Wesley and  Salisbury both get bids??? Pool B teams are able to get pool C bids correct??

I have to read those owp and oowp outlines to see whats up with all these eastern  and souther teams.. A few Conferences could have teams win them with 2 losses in conference alone   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 23, 2007, 11:40:24 AM
PA_Wesleyfan,

Yes, Pool B's are eligible for Pool C bids.

I think that we are looking for upsets in the South for any Pool C bids to come to the South Region.

ASC -- HSU already has 2 in-region losses, and must beat the very strong UMHB team for the Pool A bid.

SCAC -- Millsaps has a loss to Miss College and a loss to Trinity would give them 2 in-region losses. If Millsaps wins the SCAC, a one-loss Trinity might get a Pool C bid.

ODAC -- No Pool C candidates there.

USA South -- None there either.  (I think that Maryville probably wins the Pool A bid.)

Centennial -- Ditto.

Pres AC -- W&J on top and then everyone else.

ACFC -- A Wesley win over Salisbury really helps their case for a Pool B.

Carnegie Mellon -- Competing for one of the three Pool B bids, against Linfield, Wesley, Salisbury.  Has two losses now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 24, 2007, 04:04:52 PM
 Good to see that Gordon Mann thought favorably of Salisbury after seeing them play DelVal this weekend. He is correct about his assesment of the defensive lapses allowing receivers to get behind them though. That will need fixing and I'm sure the guys will be working on that this week and throughout the year.
  The game clearly changed when SU knocked the ball out as the DV back tried to jump over the goal line, with DV leading 14-10. It was definitely a good call (fumble).  I spoke to the player that punched the ball out after the game and he was sure the ball was actually loose before the back crossed the goal line. I know the DelVal folks would disagree,  but that is what happened. That was a 14 point swing-taking DelVal's 7 points off the board-then SU driving 80 yards to score-the Pontiac game changing moment as it were. I still think DV is the team to beat in their conference-they are the best 0-3 team I've seen. GO GULLS!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 28, 2007, 05:54:53 PM
   Roll Gulls didn't get in yet so I will give my prognostication skills a try. I like Brockport to handle Ithaca on the road, Wesley to defeat Huntingdon at home, Duquesne over Frostburg (hope I'm wrong), and Salisbury to beat NNA (hope I'm right-sorry SID!). I leave the scores to Roll!
   Good health to all and GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 28, 2007, 09:29:00 PM
Posting from Dover tonight. A bit of turbulence on the flight into Baltimore this afternoon so that was a rollercoaster for a few minutes but we got in okay. Plus our bag was already to baggage claim by the time we got there. Kudos to BWI there.
Does this happen to anyone else? Whenever I get to the rental car area, why is it that the one I have a reservation for seems to always have a line of ten or twenty people while the other five or six counters have no line at all?
All in all not a bad travel day though.
Any of the regular Wesley posters going to be at the game? Let me know and I'll look you up.
Maybe we can give you a good game tomorrow.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 28, 2007, 09:47:08 PM
Good luck, Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 28, 2007, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 28, 2007, 05:54:53 PM
   Roll Gulls didn't get in yet so I will give my prognostication skills a try. I like Brockport to handle Ithaca on the road, Wesley to defeat Huntingdon at home, Duquesne over Frostburg (hope I'm wrong), and Salisbury to beat NNA (hope I'm right-sorry SID!). I leave the scores to Roll!
   Good health to all and GO GULLS!

SU Backer I would be worried if you did pick us :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on September 28, 2007, 10:37:33 PM
Hawks88

B safe...have fun...cheer em on
we will b listening on the radio... from the back of a tractor...killing weeds

come home safe

Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 28, 2007, 10:54:35 PM
Hawk88
Not going to make it down this week....Wait until you see how fast Beavers is Hawk
 Wesley has been real close to blowing these teams out but they are just missing on some big deep pass plays.
 
We'll see how the Wolverines regroup after last weeks tough loss. Appears that that game took a lot out of MSU as they lost to NJSU tonight.

Wesley wins this week. If they connect this could be a big win. If not and they and they turn the ball over it could be another nail biter.

Salisbury wins over NNA. NNAsid where is the Offense??? ???

Duquesne over FSU. Frostburg not playing well .

B-port/Ithaca     B-port is in the beginning of a stretch of tough games.. This could be a stepping stone game but I still like Ithaca in this one. Should be a great game





Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 28, 2007, 11:32:17 PM
wesleydad

going to have to give us a rundown on the game this week. can't pass up an opportunity to see the first place Phils clinch!!!! ;D

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 29, 2007, 08:00:07 AM
pa wesleyfan,

will do.  game should be over by the time phils start so i will probably catch the end of the phils at tgif since we are taking our son to dinner after the game.  as for the game, wesley should win, but again mistakes have to be eliminated.  schatz has to start connecting on the medium to long routes.  i think that would be helped by running some shorter routes early forcing the db's to move up before trying to throw overtop of db's who are 15 to 20 yards down field at the snap.  pennewell ran well again last week and should again today.  last weeks inability to score on a short field the entire second half cost them the game, that has to be changed.  if it is wesley will start putting plenty of points on the board.  enjoy the phils and i know you will be listening to the game.  go wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on September 29, 2007, 06:11:56 PM
Good win for the Wolverines today.  Overall a solid day, next week Homecoming, Frostburg has always found a way to make it a tough game every year.  Looks like the Wolverine defense and the Running game is on track for Wesley.  I do have a question to pose to all of you.
When is too Much??? 
No. 1 Mount Union  62  Heidelberg  3, No. 15 Washington and Jefferson  64  St. Vincent  6,  Wisconsin Lutheran  2  Olivet  62, Newport News  14  No. 19 Salisbury  62.  Not every blow out this week is listed sorry I don't have the patience.  Since when is it classy to defeat a team 62-3 or 62-14.  Does it mean that coaches just don't care anymore.  I know Salisbury pretty well running the ball like they do takes alot more time then lets say throwing the ball like Wesley.  So when do you call off the dogs.  Coach Sherman and the Gulls are a good team why do you have to completely disgrace the shipbuilders.  "Salisbury steamrolls Shipbuilders" thats what the article says on Salisbury site. Is that completely necessary.  But thats only one instance this year.
Sep. 1  1:00 PM  Averett •  W, 75-7     This one is absurd, learn how to be a gracious winner
Sep. 15  7:00 PM  Otterbein * •  W, 58-14     
Sep. 22  7:00 PM  Muskingum * •  W, 62-0     
Sep. 29  1:30 PM  at Heidelberg * •  W, 62-3 
This is the Mount Union Purple Raiders past 4 games.  How many d3 titles have you won?  Wow Maybe its just me but hey maybe a matchup against a d2 or d1AA school would better suit you.  With scores like this it is evident that you don't respect your opponents.  I don't understand why with these scores being an every year thing why you stay in D3.  Not saying i don't like having a Mount Union in D3 but lets be classy and maybe a little respectful of your opponents.  Just a thought and yes i do realize that Wesley has run up the score before also.  I am just making a statement to spark some thought.  Any takers?
   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on September 29, 2007, 06:41:42 PM
runnning up the score ?

i agree

not always possible to keep the game i hand and Not run up the score.... but why not play everyone early..... look at things u wanted to try .... practice goalline def in mid field... really.... why pulll the plug (not pullin a dubose).... but pull starters out when game is in hand... be willing to put them in if the other team gets within 21 pts....  play every one a lot

i love winning as much as any one.... but ain't a reason to humiliate unless it is ...welll...pay back ( and that is not right)

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2007, 07:17:59 PM
Quote from: Wesleyfan24 on September 29, 2007, 06:11:56 PM
Good win for the Wolverines today.  Overall a solid day, next week Homecoming, Frostburg has always found a way to make it a tough game every year.  Looks like the Wolverine defense and the Running game is on track for Wesley.  I do have a question to pose to all of you.
When is too Much??? 
No. 1 Mount Union  62  Heidelberg  3, No. 15 Washington and Jefferson  64  St. Vincent  6,  Wisconsin Lutheran  2  Olivet  62, Newport News  14  No. 19 Salisbury  62.  Not every blow out this week is listed sorry I don't have the patience.  Since when is it classy to defeat a team 62-3 or 62-14.  Does it mean that coaches just don't care anymore.  I know Salisbury pretty well running the ball like they do takes alot more time then lets say throwing the ball like Wesley.  So when do you call off the dogs.  Coach Sherman and the Gulls are a good team why do you have to completely disgrace the shipbuilders.  "Salisbury steamrolls Shipbuilders" thats what the article says on Salisbury site. Is that completely necessary.  But thats only one instance this year.
Sep. 1  1:00 PM  Averett •  W, 75-7     This one is absurd, learn how to be a gracious winner
Sep. 15  7:00 PM  Otterbein * •  W, 58-14     
Sep. 22  7:00 PM  Muskingum * •  W, 62-0     
Sep. 29  1:30 PM  at Heidelberg * •  W, 62-3 
This is the Mount Union Purple Raiders past 4 games.  How many d3 titles have you won?  Wow Maybe its just me but hey maybe a matchup against a d2 or d1AA school would better suit you.  With scores like this it is evident that you don't respect your opponents.  I don't understand why with these scores being an every year thing why you stay in D3.  Not saying i don't like having a Mount Union in D3 but lets be classy and maybe a little respectful of your opponents.  Just a thought and yes i do realize that Wesley has run up the score before also.  I am just making a statement to spark some thought.  Any takers?   
YOU PROVE IT, Wesleyfan24!

Use the data that you can find from links that are on this web site.

Prove how Coach Kehres runs up the score.

Prove how it would be classy to begin punting on first down every time you are up by 40 points, just because you only brought your traveling squad of 52 players or however many the OAC permits.

Prove how it is classy to drive 79 yds down the field and then intentionally fumble out of the end zone.

Down in Texas, 6-man football has a 45-point rule.  The game is over when one team is up by 45 points in the second half.  "Forty-fivin'" a team is an insult to the opponent.

Make your case for Mount Union for the President of Mount Union to leave D3 and the Ohio Athletic Conference for all of his 20 men's and women's sports and move to another division.  Do you now eliminate sports because you have to give athletic scholarships to compete in D2?

A school is prohibited from "playing up" and remaining D3 with the exception of "grandfathered" teams who were competing in D1 hockey, soccer and lacrosse "from the beginning".

My team lost to #2 UMHB 61-19 today.  The Cru had too many horses, but we led 3-0 after the first quarter.

I think what is disrespectful is to de-humanize your opponent when you are glaring over him after a sack, or a strut going into the end zone, or some other type of celebration of an event or a play that the fans fully expect you to accomplish.  Imagine your secretary giving high fives after typing "Dear Sir:".  :D

At the end of a game like MUC or UMHB, I want my opponent to say that even tho' I was losing 40 points, I still came at him full speed; that every time he knocked me onto my rear end, I got back up and came at him again;  that he knew that every play would be graded that night, and he would see that I had given it my all.

Wesleyfan24, the MUC rants are made by people who have not comprehended how Coach Kehres has done it.  There is nothing about the program not to admire.  He does it with class.   Please check out the Mount Union web sites.

Welcome to the boards...  :)  Good luck to Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 29, 2007, 08:17:11 PM
   Good job today GULLS! Wesley 24, I guess you think Wesley's history starts this year....but I remember 2 years back SU getting "run up" on by 60 plus at Wesley. WESLEY DOES THE SAME THING!!! They threw the ball all day -thru the 4th quarter. You know, I talked to Coach Wood after that game and he told me- "We were beat by a better team, it was our job to stop them, not their job to take it easy on us".  Not one bit of blame for Wesley-none. I could go into the points for/against that help determine home field in the playoffs, being in a conference without a AQ etc., as  reasons for this happening.
By the way- I was at the SU game today.......NNA scored on the SU first team defense, and defensive subs were in for much of the 2nd half. Salisbury scored 42 in the first half- the starters need to play at least a half to stay "game sharp". The last touchdown  SU scored was a long run by the 3rd string fullback......maybe he should have just fell down instead of scoring. The 2nd and 3rd string guys deserve a chance to play in games like this and they should and do play hard.
As far as Mount Union goes- they have a great program and coaches- they don't run it up, they really are that good.
   Welcome to college football.......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 29, 2007, 08:29:18 PM
Quote from: Wesleyfan24 on September 29, 2007, 06:11:56 PM
Good win for the Wolverines today.  Overall a solid day, next week Homecoming, Frostburg has always found a way to make it a tough game every year.  Looks like the Wolverine defense and the Running game is on track for Wesley.  I do have a question to pose to all of you.
When is too Much??? 
No. 1 Mount Union  62  Heidelberg  3, No. 15 Washington and Jefferson  64  St. Vincent  6,  Wisconsin Lutheran  2  Olivet  62, Newport News  14  No. 19 Salisbury  62.  Not every blow out this week is listed sorry I don't have the patience.  Since when is it classy to defeat a team 62-3 or 62-14.  Does it mean that coaches just don't care anymore.  I know Salisbury pretty well running the ball like they do takes alot more time then lets say throwing the ball like Wesley.  So when do you call off the dogs.  Coach Sherman and the Gulls are a good team why do you have to completely disgrace the shipbuilders.  "Salisbury steamrolls Shipbuilders" thats what the article says on Salisbury site. Is that completely necessary.  But thats only one instance this year.
Sep. 1  1:00 PM  Averett •  W, 75-7     This one is absurd, learn how to be a gracious winner
Sep. 15  7:00 PM  Otterbein * •  W, 58-14     
Sep. 22  7:00 PM  Muskingum * •  W, 62-0     
Sep. 29  1:30 PM  at Heidelberg * •  W, 62-3 
This is the Mount Union Purple Raiders past 4 games.  How many d3 titles have you won?  Wow Maybe its just me but hey maybe a matchup against a d2 or d1AA school would better suit you.  With scores like this it is evident that you don't respect your opponents.  I don't understand why with these scores being an every year thing why you stay in D3.  Not saying i don't like having a Mount Union in D3 but lets be classy and maybe a little respectful of your opponents.  Just a thought and yes i do realize that Wesley has run up the score before also.  I am just making a statement to spark some thought.  Any takers?
   

The Mt Union Averett game.....Mt Union was trying to find ways to not run up the score.....I heard they were kicking FG's on third down so as not to get a first down and score another TD. I also heard they had massive subs in the first qt.....just stuff i heard....don't know for sure.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 29, 2007, 08:46:46 PM
I wasn't going to mention this, Wesleyfan24, but have you heard of the pot calling the kettle black? Wesley was sure passing a whole lot in the 4th quarter today even though they were already up 3 touchdowns.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 29, 2007, 09:08:31 PM
pa wesleyfan,  just got back from dinner and the drive home.  good game by wesley, huntington was no match.  they were much smaller across the board and wesley dominated the game.  good running attack and the passing game was short to medium, no long passes at all.  hunt did not allow it by playing so far off the ball and wesley finally took advantage with short passes.  pennewell is running real well at this point.  if wesley can keep up the running game, opponents will have plenty to worry about and it should open up the passing game.  good win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 29, 2007, 10:05:53 PM
wesleydad

  The Phils dropped the ball today more than Wesley ::) 'Nough said!
I heard the opening drive today before we left. Sounded like the O line did some damage early. Pennewell has good speed and strength.

Wesley24

Got to have all the facts before you go on a rant!!!!

Hawk88
Other than the result, how was your trip to Dover? For some reason I can never get my car passed the raceway  ;D   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on September 29, 2007, 10:56:11 PM
I wasn't going off on a rant i just wanted some opinions about the absurd scores that are being thrown up by everyone.  Doesn't it seem that if you are beating teams by extravagant amounts that you would look for tougher competition.  Wisconsin Whitewater lost a game this year to a d2 school did they have to play them no but they did for the competition.  Why can't we have the Whitewater's play the Mary Hardin Baylors more.  And i did reference the Wesley factor and how we too have run the score up for all you salisbury fans out there.  Its not the fact of why they are running up the score but how.  Face a better team for heavens sake i understand that MUC kicked field goals on third down against AVERETT.  Who is a good d3 team but come on MUC could play all their freshmen football JV team and beat Averett.  I just want to spark up a contriversal topic.  Plus i am just rooting to get some of the younger kids some game time experience.  I mean with out redshirting most kids lose a year of eligibility before they even set foot on a game field.(exception JV football)  And they say that they took away red shirting for education.  I know plenty of kids that graduated in five years and had to help their teams from the stands.  I am not calling out the MUC coach or Coach Woods i rather am looking for some good debating conversation.  I mean no disrespect and i am sorry that some of you took it the wrong way.  I simply want some reaction to scores that are a little outragioius no matter the underlying circumstances.  Not saying their running up the score or anything like that only asking what you all think about it.  And yes i think that staring at your opponent after a sack or a tackle, throwing the ball at your opponent, and many other things are disrespectful.  I was just looking to get things stirred up and maybe have a little more excitement on this board looks like i got some responces and yes I actually got things a little more stirred up.  And yes go Wesley ;), go Apprentice, go Salisbury ::), go Brockport (for one more season) :o, and go Frostburg(except this week you need to lose sorry)  ;D And go ACFC.  Good luck to all
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on September 29, 2007, 11:00:35 PM
Guys.... running up the score is wrong.... whether not mt union does it is unknown to me... i ain't got a dog in that fight

Hawks88... got your back if u need it... but..
i thought wesley just flat out manned us ( huntingdon)...and they got a passing offense..... but i just listened to it while 'bush hogging' my pasture....

Ralph (we met... and u r one of the Deans around here and have become my D-3 posts Hero...but.....) .. 3 of those mt union games (including the 75 pt averett game) were at home..so the 52 man travel squad or whatever..didn't apply... thier web site suggest they got >100 on thier varsity... and they delineate varsity roster from JV roster.... i am sure the program at mt union..as classy as it is (and we got to visit it last yr) does no wrong... but 75 - 7 is pretty harsh.... uh.... yea..... harsh....... i would have liked the 45 rule....but this ain't 6 0r 8 man football

again i niether agree nor disagree with wesley24 about mt union.... but i do not like to see coaches run up the score ...and yes i have seen it done..... some high scoring butt whoopings r no ones fault but the recipient.... but others r not....and when u r up by 21 within site of the end (< 5 min)...u don't need to be putting it up (except to keep a drive going... u need to run the clock...  (note the word run)

my 2 pennies.... and worth less than that

keep the faith



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 29, 2007, 11:34:52 PM
wesley24

1) Some of those game are conference contests, which of course have to be played

  2) There are teams ,Wesley is one of them, that have trouble scheduling games and play teams they can schedule that may not be as competative as others.

  3) The younger players have to wait their turn, This is not a level that coaches are obligated to play every player in a blow out. There is no way that some of them are ready to play as freshmen. And trying to play 100 kids in a game, not happening!!!! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2007, 11:42:32 PM
Quote from: Wesleyfan24 on September 29, 2007, 06:11:56 PM
Good win for the Wolverines today.  Overall a solid day, next week Homecoming, Frostburg has always found a way to make it a tough game every year.  Looks like the Wolverine defense and the Running game is on track for Wesley.  I do have a question to pose to all of you.
When is too Much???   

There's never too much -- research, that is. Do your homework before you go calling someone out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2007, 11:47:06 PM
Yes, AF, I remember meeting you at HC.  We enjoyed our trip, despite the outcome.

I won't tell third stringer not to execute.

In the Averett (http://raider.muc.edu/sports/football/2007/mtu-auf.htm) game, MUC scored 45 points in the first quarter.  MUC All-American RB Nate Kmic touched the ball 7 times for 145 yds and 4 TDs, all in the first quarter.  He leaves the game.  Look at how many big mistakes that Averett makes.


Here are the stats versus Otterbein (http://raider.muc.edu/sports/football/2007/mtu-ott.htm).  Look how many players touch the ball.

Against Muskingum (http://raider.muc.edu/sports/football/2007/mtu-musk.htm), Kmic only touches the ball 7 times.

Against Heidelburg (http://raider.muc.edu/sports/football/2007/mtu-heid.htm), it seems that it is just straight forward rushing football.

After 8 seasons on this board, I have become very sensitive to the cheap shots that media people take at MUC.  They run as fine an organization as there is in D3.  How do you get a team ready for the tough games that are at the top of the OAC when you have some weak team in the conference?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on September 30, 2007, 12:47:11 AM
Ralph ...hero...obi wan

like i said ..i ain't got a dawg in the mount union fight.... i take what u say as gospel concerning D3 and all it's teams

i was just responding to a question..... and any way u shake it... between losing 75-7 or getting the 45 rule.... i would rather get the 45 rule ( but this ain't 6 or 8 man highschool football)...and then i am slow minded and live in alabama (possibly redundant)

1 of my 2 teams won (AU beat Fl)...and  the only horse owner i had to deal with today was my wife..... overall a good day... unless i pissed u off... wouldn't want to do that

be good and keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 30, 2007, 12:53:29 AM
Yes it was good.

I am glad that the Auburn FG kicker nailed it...twice!  ;D

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 30, 2007, 01:17:03 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2007, 11:47:06 PM
In the Averett (http://raider.muc.edu/sports/football/2007/mtu-auf.htm) game, MUC scored 45 points in the first quarter.  MUC All-American RB Nate Kmic touched the ball 7 times for 145 yds and 4 TDs, all in the first quarter.  He leaves the game.  Look at how many big mistakes that Averett makes.

They scored 52 in the first quarter, even.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 30, 2007, 08:43:06 AM
wesley24, good topic of conversation.  looking at it from 2 points of view, as a parent and a coach.  i agree with you that some of the scores have been ugly and from afar it is easy to wonder if the score was run up.  watching wesley for the last 3 years has been fun, winning does that and wesley has beaten some teams pretty soundly.  i wondered why more substituting wasnt done earlier in some of those games, but as others have stated, coaches are trying to get ready for tougher games and nothing does that better than reps.  i dont think coach drass or any other coach that i have seen tries to run up the score and it is unfortunate that it happens sometimes.  i agree with you that playing tougher competition helps more and i was glad to see wesley upgrade its schedule this year, 4 very competitive games and no real blowouts.  from a coaching standpoint i try to do everything possible not to run up the score, but sometimes it is out of your control even when you sub.  this week we are winning 20 - 0 at half and the other team is really disorganized.  i sub in for entire offensive backfield and half of line, what happens, we run the kickoff back for td, boom 27 - 0.  you always try to respect your opponent because they are trying just as much as you are, but sometimes you are just that much better.  wesley only has 4 conference games so they have to search out opponents, muc does not have that luxury and i am sure has trouble finding opponents to fill the non-conference games.  who wants to go get beat badly, i give averett credit for taking the game and i would have no complaints if wesley took that challenge.  if you want to be the best you have to play them, cliche, but true.  your question was a good one and i am surprized by how defensive some have gotten because you mentioned their team.  you did signal out your own squad, wesley as an example, and i for one was not offended.  anyone that loves football and checks the scoreboard for results has to wonder how a game got so out of hand, bad team or run up.  see you next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 30, 2007, 09:10:50 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2007, 11:47:06 PM
Yes, AF, I remember meeting you at HC.  We enjoyed our trip, despite the outcome.

I won't tell third stringer not to execute.

In the Averett (http://raider.muc.edu/sports/football/2007/mtu-auf.htm) game, MUC scored 45 points in the first quarter.  MUC All-American RB Nate Kmic touched the ball 7 times for 145 yds and 4 TDs, all in the first quarter.  He leaves the game.  Look at how many big mistakes that Averett makes.


Here are the stats versus Otterbein (http://raider.muc.edu/sports/football/2007/mtu-ott.htm).  Look how many players touch the ball.

Against Muskingum (http://raider.muc.edu/sports/football/2007/mtu-musk.htm), Kmic only touches the ball 7 times.

Against Heidelburg (http://raider.muc.edu/sports/football/2007/mtu-heid.htm), it seems that it is just straight forward rushing football.

After 8 seasons on this board, I have become very sensitive to the cheap shots that media people take at MUC.  They run as fine an organization as there is in D3.  How do you get a team ready for the tough games that are at the top of the OAC when you have some weak team in the conference?


There seems to be even more of this on the boards this year than usual.  Even I brought it up.  Unfortunately, they haven't played any of the good teams in the conference yet.  As you said, are they really prepared to play those games?  Could they possibly lay an egg?  Well I guess if the past is any indication, then an emphatic NO.  They will be well prepared. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2007, 12:36:31 PM
I started a RUNNING up the score post in the general posts
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: IchKriegIhnNichtHoch on October 01, 2007, 12:24:34 AM
I agree that some of the scores throughout D3 are pretty outrageous.  But I have to defend Mount Union a little bit...I have seen them on fim when I played for Wesley.  When you are blowing a team off the feild in the first half and have a running game like they have...It is simply impossible to stop scoring.  I saw them against Averett two years ago.  Averett is a team that even gives Wesley problems and they were just destroying them late with long TD runs so the end score looked even worse.  I would have to aggree that they should think about moving up a division...But if they do...Dont expect things to change.  Mount Union will only attract more freak athletes if they have scholarship money to throw around.  It wouldnt be long before they dominated DII. 

I was the part of what people would call "running up the score" when I was at wesley both on the winning and losing end.  DIII is all about finding mismatches and exploiting them...Good teams do it week in and week out.  That was the case when I was at wesley and that is the case when any GOOD team plays an inferior one.  And just when is a game OVER...I have also been a part of a comeback win where we were down by 24 points at the half and scored 42 unanswered points in the second half.  Its a hard call to make for a head coach sometimes.  On top of that...When you have ample second stringers to put on the field to "run out the clock"...What are you supposed to tell them?  DONT SCORE?  DONT TRY SO HARD?  Its a touchy subject. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 01, 2007, 12:37:30 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 29, 2007, 10:05:53 PM
wesleydad


Hawk88
Other than the result, how was your trip to Dover? For some reason I can never get my car passed the raceway  ;D   

Pretty good trip with beautiful weather, Wesleydad. Stopped on the eastern shore on the way back to Baltimore after the game. Ate some good crabs and saw a beautiful sunset on the Chesapeake. Made it to the motel in time to see the start of the Auburn-Florida game but gave out by halftime. Woke up early to get to the airport, turned on ESPN to find the score and they were replaying the game and it was in the 4th quarter so we got to see the end so that worked out well. All together a real good trip, except of course for the outcome of HC-WC.   
Also got to meet Pat and Keith after the game and spoke with them for a few minutes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on October 01, 2007, 03:30:34 PM
Hawks88

Lord willing we'll  b at samford stadium sat...

where u tailgate at ?  me and the misses will try to find u
we set up in front of cloverdale school annex....about 4 families

have a great week

Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 01, 2007, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: AF4 on October 01, 2007, 03:30:34 PM
Hawks88

Lord willing we'll  b at samford stadium sat...

where u tailgate at ?  me and the misses will try to find u
we set up in front of cloverdale school annex....about 4 families

have a great week

Go Hawks

We will be there if nothing happens between now and then. The first two games we were just to the right(facing the building) of the front door of the Cloverdale building. We're in a black Mazda 6 with Huntingdon license plates. Stop by and say hey.

Hopefully we can get the losing streak stopped this week and turn things around.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on October 01, 2007, 06:29:47 PM
Hawks88

"Hopefully we can get the losing streak stopped this week and turn things around."


i heard that....

i am a fat, bald headed, fairly dumb looking old man.... if u see me.... don't run..

Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2007, 07:34:00 PM
Pleasure to meet you 88 -- thanks for seeking us out and introducing yourself!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 03, 2007, 06:15:14 PM
   Getting into game time mode.......Ok, I'm a little early, but here goes for this week. Wesley @ home over Frostburg and I'm afraid it won't be close, Wesley looks like they are back in top form. NNA @ home over Morrisville, but I don't think this is a cakewalk- Morrisville is big and physical and will continue to improve, but they are not ready for the Builders yet. I'm going to go out on a limb again with Brockport and say they pull the big upset by a touchdown @ SJF.  And I have to go with my Gulls over Geneva in a tough one @ their house. May they all come out healthy and GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 03, 2007, 09:58:08 PM
SU
Ill give you mine later in the week. Have not been here as much lately.
have to catch up with all the posts and look at some stats first.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 05, 2007, 11:19:04 AM
This board has been awfully quiet this week!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 05, 2007, 08:48:56 PM
Picks for this weekend

Wesley over Frostbury State
NNA over Morrisville State
B-Port over SJF                   for the upset
Salisbury over Geneva
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 05, 2007, 10:56:28 PM
NJ
Sure has been quiet. I haven't been here much as I have had to take care of some family health  issues. Good news is thibgs are a bit more stable so I will be going to dover tomorrow for home coming game with FSU.

  Oct 27th is in bold letters on some calenders in the DelMarVa area, BUT thats four games away!!!

Wesley over FSU  The Wolverines know they can't afford another  loss and will be ready this week. Could be ugly.

  NNA over Morrisvile The Shipbuilders have to find some offense to go with their defense.

  SJF over Brockport st.  BPort can do some damage in the east and south over the next three weeks. They certainly play some good teams. I think that SJF is going to be on a mission this week though after last weeks loss.

  Salisbury over Geneva Geneva has held their own with some good teams thus far and I believe they will contend right away in the PAC when they become eligible to win the conference. Salisbury has been on a roll but I think they will have a tough game this week
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 06, 2007, 05:26:55 AM
pawesleyfan, hope to see you today.  stop by in the tailgating area.  i hope the offense has worked out most of the kinks and starts running smoother.  there seems to be some indecision on some of the play calling, not sure if they can figure out how to get the ball to all the weapons they have.  pennewell is a pleasant surprize and certainly makes it tougher to defend them.  the defense is playing well and i expect the same today.  should be a good crowd for homecoming, we are heading down a little earlier today.  need to get a good spot for relaxing before and after the game. :)  plenty of big games around the country, i am looking forward to the results.  go wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 06, 2007, 07:49:03 AM
I don't think Wesley's offensive problems have been indecision in play calling.  ??? It has been a lack of execution and mostly turnovers. They have plenty of sound schemes to get the ball to their playmakers. The important thing is that they keep improving which I believe they have and will continue to do.

As far as Frostburg goes......

I think that they really need to be able to run the ball and control the clock today behind tailback Shanorm Young. If they can do this it will make things a lot easier for QB Andre Dixon in the passing game. They haven't made any big plays in the pass game with their longest completion this year just 19 yards.

They had some success at this a couple years ago when Wesley turned it over a couple of times and Young had 89 yards in the first quarter. The Bobcats led 10-0 after the first quarter before Wesley scored 35 unanswered.

Defensively, FSU has always been pretty good, well-coached. The Bobcats gave the Wesley some problems last year.They are pretty young or inexperienced in some spots this year. Najier Frazier and Johan Owens are a pretty good pair of defensive backs.

Wesley should win if they can hold on to the football and execute.



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on October 06, 2007, 09:22:24 AM
Today,
Wesley over Frostburg, tough game every year Wesley wants to make a big splash and give salisbury something to think about.

Salisbury over Geneva late i give a slight chance for an upset though

Brockport blown out by SJF, This brockport team is way different than it was a year or two years ago.  Stays close for a while but in the end a superior running game and a young defense makes all the difference.

NNA grinds out a low scoring win over Morrisville, but again chance for it to go the opposite way two big teams butting heads going to be a rough game for some two really hard hitting teams will be interesting.
Go Wolverines...HOMECOMING baby
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 06, 2007, 04:40:31 PM
NNA 50-21 over Morrisville
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on October 06, 2007, 05:00:26 PM
Wesley 45, FSU 0.

Wesley sets school records with 676 yards of total offense and 411 yards rushing.

Surprisingly, Wesley does not score through the air today.  Something to think about huh?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 06, 2007, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: dedragon on October 06, 2007, 05:00:26 PM
Wesley 45, FSU 0.

Wesley sets school records with 676 yards of total offense and 411 yards rushing.

Surprisingly, Wesley does not score through the air today.  Something to think about huh?

and a conference record 676 yards total offense
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 06, 2007, 07:05:23 PM
Nice Homecoming for Huntingdon today. Threatened to rain early but ended up being a beautiful day, about 10 degrees cooler than was forecasted. HC was able to get the offense rolling early, got to take out some frustration from the last few weeks and got a lot of young guys a lot of playing time.

AF4, enjoyed finally meeting and getting to talk with you. Have a good one and hopefully we'll see you next week.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on October 06, 2007, 10:09:36 PM
Hawks88

back at u brother... have a great week... Lord willing i'll see u next saturday at samford stadium

lets keep turning this thang around

coach turk emptied the sidlines.... on the 1 foot line with >1 min to go...  he let the time run.... took a penalty.... then ran a dive play ... gave them the ball back for 1 play.... he tried not to run it up..... he was classy

Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 06, 2007, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 06, 2007, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: dedragon on October 06, 2007, 05:00:26 PM
Wesley 45, FSU 0.

Wesley sets school records with 676 yards of total offense and 411 yards rushing.

Surprisingly, Wesley does not score through the air today.  Something to think about huh?

and a conference record 676 yards total offense

Pennewell had one of the greatest runs I have ever seen today for a touchdown.
He was hit twice in the backfield, went to his hand for balance and then broke another tackle before breaking out of the pack and outrunning the D... 60 + yrds.

Brian Robinson was so dominant that he was actually tackled by the O tackle on one play
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on October 07, 2007, 01:04:21 AM
Today Wesley set some records, beat frostburg, tailgaited, had a little fun and are ready to start conference play.  NNA and Brockport better start game planning early for Wesley.  Running, passing, blocking these things i don't think anyone in the conference can compete with the wolverines at.  The only thing that will hold the wolverines are mistakes fumbles, interceptions, penalties, etc... I really cannont wait for three weeks from now.  Wesley vs Salisbury at Wolverine Stadium (The Den)  last year was last year whether Wesley won by a field goal at the end of the game or by 40 points one thing is for certain Salisbury and Wesley are rivals.  I can say when i played at Wesley we always looked forward to Salisbury week.  But lets not get ahead of ourselves NNA and Brockport are both respectible teams and if we are going to make the playoffs and knock Salisbury out we are going to have to go undefeated from here on out. 
Step 1 Beat NNA
Step 2 Beat Brockport
Step 3 Destroy the Gulls (In a manner of speaking)
Great wins all around the conference this week
Go Wolverines Maybe next year Frostburg (Lets do some recruiting)

PS Maybe you can play Salisbury a little Closer in ??? Whats that bowl game you guys play.  I think the Battle of Rt. 13 is taking over whatever your bowl game at towson is called. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Old Ref on October 07, 2007, 09:08:53 AM
Congrats to NNA, I think they found that offense.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 07, 2007, 11:22:09 AM
http://www.wdel.com/news.php?n=S&s=2

Great video of Pennewell's GREAT TD run

Note: Will probably only be posted thru today
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on October 07, 2007, 03:20:28 PM
That play took 16 seconds off the clock to run... I've never seen such a demoralized team as FSU.  They are having a tough time there.  Hopefully they get it back!  They used to be such a tough team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 07, 2007, 03:56:28 PM
dedragon

They were chirping from the first play. Had three or four unsportsmanlike penalties. Looked like a team that wasn't listening to the coach either.. Wesley did over match them badly even though FSU has some big people
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 07, 2007, 09:20:25 PM
NNAsid

Got some Offense??? Guess the Builders liked it in the endzone so much they decided to visit it a few more times!!! :D Boy I was planning on making a trip to Morrisville game with Wesley in Nov. but after what the Builders did to them yesterday I don't think I will. Just saw all my relatives in July LOL...

  Looks like Coach Drass has decided to run the ball a little more.. The Wolverines aren't getting as much attention as last year because the scores are down ,but if two of their passes a game were getting connected the scores would be a little different.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 08, 2007, 08:50:35 AM
PA

I guess Wesley made a statement with the win over FSU......Wow! The Gulls took care of business with a good win over a tough Geneva team at their place.  Next year Salisbury first night game at home will be against Geneva.

Great statement with NNA over Morrisville State.  I believe Mo'Ville is the next game for the Gulls.  I was hoping B-Port would pull the upset from a conference standpoint.

The ACFC has some good teams.  Unfortunately B-Port is leaving, and if we could get FSU back up there along with a few new teams to help get an AQ, the league could be one of the power conferences.  As it stands now Salisbury and Wesley are continuing on their collision course.

GO GULLS  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on October 08, 2007, 09:29:15 AM
FYI, this link to the Wesley highlights (including the TD run) should last a little longer.

http://www.wdel.com/features/Wdelsean-Frostburg750.wmv (http://www.wdel.com/features/Wdelsean-Frostburg750.wmv)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 08, 2007, 09:44:42 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 07, 2007, 09:20:25 PM
NNAsid

Got some Offense??? Guess the Builders liked it in the endzone so much they decided to visit it a few more times!!! :D Boy I was planning on making a trip to Morrisville game with Wesley in Nov. but after what the Builders did to them yesterday I don't think I will. Just saw all my relatives in July LOL...

  Looks like Coach Drass has decided to run the ball a little more.. The Wolverines aren't getting as much attention as last year because the scores are down ,but if two of their passes a game were getting connected the scores would be a little different.

You guys are going to be scary enough.
Defense got involved in the scoring binge (pick and a fumble return)
Reid's been on a run here lately...hopefully it can continue

Far as the family visit to Morrisville.....The Mustangs did get smart this year and threw in Mount Ida so they dont end the season again with us, Salisbury, Bport and Wesley in a row.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 08, 2007, 04:20:32 PM
Sid
Morrisville is going to go thru some growing pains in the NJAC.  Maybe they will start to draw some of the talent away from the other SUNY schools with Buff St, Bport St and Cortland St. on the schedule.

wdelsean

Thanks 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on October 09, 2007, 04:23:46 PM
The ACFC has some good teams.  Unfortunately B-Port is leaving, and if we could get FSU back up there along with a few new teams to help get an AQ, the league could be one of the power conferences.  As it stands now Salisbury and Wesley are continuing on their collision course.

Hey NJlinc... that would be great but it appears that Wesley, Salisbury are on an exit course in the next couple of years but who knows right.  The CAC is where other Wesley teams are moving to and in the next couple of years i believe that we will be carrying our rivalry over there.  Not sure if Frostburg is also on that route or not. 

As far as how next week is going to happen one thing you can always count on is a NNA team that is big, fast, and hard hitting.  Two years ago Beavers caught a hitch and took it 60 yards for a touchdown.  Unfortunately I have to say that the near future is not looking good for NNA.  Wesley has to much talent, size, speed, and experience to not beat NNA. Sorry sid hopefully you kept some of those points from last week because Wesley has had 2 shutouts in a row.  Could this week be number three?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 09, 2007, 08:04:21 PM
nnasid, i will be coming down this weekend for the game.  is there a place for tailgating at nna?  any good places to visit while i am there.  my son was stationed at ft eustache last year and my wife and i found a great sports bar, baileys in the patrick henry mall.  i wont be getting there until late friday, but staying over sat night.  i like the horses so colonial downs might be a visit.  do you have any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 09, 2007, 08:26:45 PM
njlinc

Wesley's D has stepped it up a notch the last couple weeks. The linebackers and the D as a whole have adjusted to the loss of Huntbach. Mathews is doing a good job in the middle and Santiago and Jones are making plays. Robinson has played up to his potential the last few weeks also after having some cramping problems during the extended heat. more later..... Lightning is close
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 09, 2007, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 09, 2007, 08:04:21 PM
nnasid, i will be coming down this weekend for the game.  is there a place for tailgating at nna?  any good places to visit while i am there.  my son was stationed at ft eustache last year and my wife and i found a great sports bar, baileys in the patrick henry mall.  i wont be getting there until late friday, but staying over sat night.  i like the horses so colonial downs might be a visit.  do you have any other suggestions?

e-mail me off this and we can get somewhere set up.  We have a *tennis court* that was used earlier this year by Fairmont for tailgating.  It's boxed in so I dont think it will be a problem for you.  LOADS of parking so even if that's not good parking lot is wide open.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 09, 2007, 09:12:47 PM
Wesley's D has been scary the last 2.5 games ::)  no TD's.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 09, 2007, 09:27:08 PM
that was nasty lightning geesh

NJlinc

I think if Welsey doesn't get caught looking ahead the next two weeks the SU/ Wesley game will be huge.... May have to get to Dover freal early that day for a seat
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 09, 2007, 11:23:31 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 09, 2007, 09:27:08 PM
that was nasty lightning geesh

NJlinc

I think if Welsey doesn't get caught looking ahead the next two weeks the SU/ Wesley game will be huge.... May have to get to Dover freal early that day for a seat

They have their last trip to Brockport to keep em grounded.  I'll be stunned to see that happen. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 11, 2007, 07:28:26 AM
It's still awfully quiet on this board  :( .

PA

Let's hope everyone from Salisbury and Wesley remains healthy, and take care of business on the field.  It's a must win for both teams.

nnasid:

Good luck this week with the Wolverines, the Builders are going to need it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 11, 2007, 12:16:12 PM
Congratulations to Huntingdon Coach Mike Turk (http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071011/SPORTS/710110353/1002) on his selection to the DII Football Hall of Fame.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on October 11, 2007, 01:24:27 PM
Hahks Hero

good to hear from u and about that... Turk was unreal at Troy... both as a player and coach... heck all  5 Huntingdon coaches r former troy players/ coaches ( including williams that spent 3 yrs in the league- nfl- at DT)

lets keep turning it around..... we dominated the jv game againt Faulkner U....  lets try and do the same against thier varsity

thier jv was a lot bigger than us... but played...well... less cohesively  (sp?)
it appears thier varsity  are also a lot bigger accross the line... we will see

i try and look u up again
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 11, 2007, 05:17:01 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on October 11, 2007, 07:28:26 AM
It's still awfully quiet on this board  :( .

PA

Let's hope everyone from Salisbury and Wesley remains healthy, and take care of business on the field.  It's a must win for both teams.

nnasid:

Good luck this week with the Wolverines, the Builders are going to need it.

weather is to be gorgeous this weekend
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 11, 2007, 05:49:13 PM
nnasid, thanks for the info about tailgating.  i will try to look you up.  thanks for the weather report, sounds like it is going to be nice, finally not sweating from the heat, just the result of the game.  my wife and i are looking forward to the trip and the game, nice area when we visited our son last year.  see you on saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2007, 10:08:41 PM
This weeks games

Wesley @ NNA  Wesley wins here. No loss in focus for the Wolverines this week.

Springfield @ B-Port  B-port could catch Springfield lookng ahead to SLF next week. B-Port can't be looking ahead to Wesley either. Could be a great game here Give B-Port the nod .

  Salisbury @ Morrisville I don't think the cold air in NY will slow down the Gulls O.
SSU big here.

  So.Va. @ FSU  So.Va can score but this is a game tht FSU can win.  Tough call here. Wonder if FSU can bounce back from three straight big losses. Gotta give So.Va. the win here


  Wesleydad
Enjoy the trip south. wait until you see the builder mascot.  Now that's a big head ..... 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 11, 2007, 10:28:47 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2007, 10:08:41 PM
This weeks games

Wesley @ NNA  Wesley wins here. No loss in focus for the Wolverines this week.

Springfield @ B-Port  B-port could catch Springfield lookng ahead to SLF next week. B-Port can't be looking ahead to Wesley either. Could be a great game here Give B-Port the nod .

  Salisbury @ Morrisville I don't think the cold air in NY will slow down the Gulls O.
SSU big here.

  So.Va. @ FSU  So.Va can score but this is a game tht FSU can win.  Tough call here. Wonder if FSU can bounce back from three straight big losses. Gotta give So.Va. the win here


  Wesleydad
Enjoy the trip south. wait until you see the builder mascot.  Now that's a big head ..... 

If you havent seen the Builder mascot.......oh my...... we are a unique school..therefore we have a VERY unique mascot.

Wesleydad.....you'll be ok with that spot......Fairmont tailgated in that area and enjoyed the game.....and they won 3-0.
With your offense, cant see a repeat of a 3-0 game... ;D

It'll be a long day for the conference SID as the Frostburg game is the late game this week (6 pm)...that could be a very high scoring one.  We'll be interested in that result as we go to Southern in 3 weeks.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2007, 10:44:14 PM
Sid
I noticed that So.Va. has scored 76pts last week !!! I don't get Frostburg... The beat a decent Randolph Macon and them get thrashed tree weeks in a row..

Ahhh The Builder Mascot.... I guess that kid has strong shoulders to hold up the head!! ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 12, 2007, 08:55:45 AM
My Predictions for this week are:


Salisbury over Mo'Ville State

Wesley over NNA

FSU over So. VA

B-Port over Springfield


Go Gulls!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 12, 2007, 09:13:21 AM
    SALISBURY beats Morrisville, Wesley big over NNA, SoVA in a close game to top FSU........and to help Bport, Springfield getting the win (I have picked them the last 2 weeks, so maybe the karma works and Port wins this one :D)
Good luck to all and may they all come out healthy........GO GULLS!               


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Old Ref on October 12, 2007, 03:42:58 PM
 Ahhh The Builder Mascot.... I guess that kid has strong shoulders to hold up the head!! ::)
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nnasid, Back when I was there, 1959, they didn't have a mascot, Why don't you share a picture for the rest of us.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 12, 2007, 05:00:39 PM
Quote from: Old Ref on October 12, 2007, 03:42:58 PM
Ahhh The Builder Mascot.... I guess that kid has strong shoulders to hold up the head!! ::)


nnasid, Back when I was there, 1959, they didn't have a mascot, Why don't you share a picture for the rest of us.
[/quote]

Its not letting me upload it...so lets go this route

http://www.gobuilders.com/sports/fball/2007-08/Photo_Gallery/Frostburg_State/FrostburgStatePhotoGallery-090807

third row, middle pic
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Old Ref on October 12, 2007, 05:44:51 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 12, 2007, 05:00:39 PM
Quote from: Old Ref on October 12, 2007, 03:42:58 PM
Ahhh The Builder Mascot.... I guess that kid has strong shoulders to hold up the head!! ::)


nnasid, Back when I was there, 1959, they didn't have a mascot, Why don't you share a picture for the rest of us.

Its not letting me upload it...so lets go this route

http://www.gobuilders.com/sports/fball/2007-08/Photo_Gallery/Frostburg_State/FrostburgStatePhotoGallery-090807

third row, middle pic
[/quote]

You are right! What a head ! Although when I was there, I had an eleven on my hard hat. Good Luck NNA !
Do they still work all day, then go to practice?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 13, 2007, 08:57:20 AM
Yes they do...by far the most unique place competing in intercollegiate athletics
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 13, 2007, 03:26:36 PM
After a terrible first half Salisbury 49-13 over Mo'Ville State with 14 minutes left in the 4th.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 13, 2007, 03:29:45 PM
wesley up 43-7  over nna early 4th
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 13, 2007, 04:54:51 PM
late score made it 50-7
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 13, 2007, 04:58:06 PM
To bring a revised Dennis Green......"they are who we thought they are...but we didnt let them off the hook    ;D

Robinson 11 tackles, 8.5 for a loss, 3.5 sacks

Reid sets career receptions record

Wesley dad...hope that spot was good for you for tailgating
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 13, 2007, 07:45:21 PM
Salisbury 56 Morrisville State 20 - Final.  No Dunkin Donuts  for the defense since they didn't get a shutout.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 13, 2007, 07:58:30 PM
Nice win for Huntingdon today against Faulkner in the first Capitol City Showdown 30-12. HC led 27-0 at the half and 30-0 until the middle of the 4th when Faulkner got a couple of scores after we started subbing.


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2007, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 13, 2007, 07:58:30 PM
Nice win for Huntingdon today against Faulkner in the first Capitol City Showdown 30-12. HC led 27-0 at the half and 30-0 until the middle of the 4th when Faulkner got a couple of scores after we started subbing.


Go Hawks!!
Nice win over a scholarship NAIA program!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on October 14, 2007, 12:14:11 AM
Hawks88...good to see u today... good to keep this season turned around

Ralph... they were bigger than us (but everyone is) there were a lot faster.... but they were...well...undisciplined... they had 5-6 personal fouls... several were unsportsmanship... had one of thier kids kicked out for punching a Huntingdon reciever after we scored ( the Db from Faulkner ran into the endzone and slugged him..)

they played like thier jv did last week

the  program indicated they had many D-1 & D-2 transfers playing

we dominated... after  the game several of the players said they were nearly as fast as Wesley

yall have a good week...and keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 14, 2007, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: AF4 on October 14, 2007, 12:14:11 AM
Hawks88...good to see u today... good to keep this season turned around

Ralph... they were bigger than us (but everyone is) they were a lot faster.... but they were...well...undisciplined... they had 5-6 personal fouls... several were unsportsmanship... had one of their kids kicked out for punching a Huntingdon receiver after we scored ( the Db from Faulkner ran into the end zone and slugged him..)

they played like their jv did last week

the  program indicated they had many D-1 & D-2 transfers playing

we dominated... after  the game several of the players said they were nearly as fast as Wesley

yall have a good week...and keep the faith
Faulkner is Church of Christ affiliated, like Harding, David Lipscomb and Abilene Christian.  I wonder how long the administration will tolerate that type of athlete?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on October 14, 2007, 12:56:15 AM
Ralph

u r ...as usual... correct.. Chuch Of Christ... My Oldest Daughter and her husband went to law school at Faulkner University...for that reason.... to get a Christian Law education.... ( i remember when she decided on them vs samford or alabama.... i said a Christian...WHAT)
..... lets not talk about that.... uh..... any way... they came to the game and used the word 'thug' a lot....

but... they were big and fast

Turk could have run the score up... but like last week...he was creative in not taking on a score or 2... i really like him

anyway... did i say they were big and fast... real fast.. they will do well... thier coach was a tuberville grad asst at Auburn last yr... i hear he is a good kid..and i bet he will weed any bad apples...with time....and have a good program

have a great week... and i know u always will keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 14, 2007, 06:45:23 PM
nnasid, thanks for the hospitality.  it was an easy trip down and back on 13.  good game by the wolverines.  running continues to impress and the passing game is getting better each game.  wesley seems to be peaking at the right time, the early season miscues are a thing of the past.  too bad for the lose to montclair st.  brockport is next, coming off a big win against springfield.  get a win there and then the game is on with salisbury.  have to give a lot of credit to the builders and their coaching staff as they try to stay competitive in a completely different environment than any other school.  it cant be easy, kudos to them.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 14, 2007, 09:29:52 PM
http://www.wdel.com/news.php?n=S&s=5

video hi-lights from Wesley /NNA
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 15, 2007, 02:19:51 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on October 12, 2007, 08:55:45 AM
My Predictions for this week are:


Salisbury over Mo'Ville State

Wesley over NNA

FSU over So. VA

B-Port over Springfield


Go Gulls!




Frostburg ruined what what have been a perfect prediction!  Does B-Port become the "Trap Game" for Wesley?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 15, 2007, 04:15:54 PM
NJlinc

If they hadn't lost to Montclair I would have said yes,but now they know they can't afford a loss even an out of region one before the Salisbury game... But that's not to say B-port isn't  a little scary and  if the weather turns rainy it could be an old fasion run ,run , run game. I'll have to study B-port a little more before I can judge who wins a slugfest on the ground.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 16, 2007, 07:32:12 AM
PA:

I see your point regarding the urgency with the Wolverines to win out.  I think both the Gulls and Wolverines are both first looking to win the ACFC, and move on to the postseason after the win.  Wesley is still ranked ahead of Salisbury in the d3 polls, and that's an incentive for the Gulls.

Although B-Port has three losses, they were to very good teams.  The weather upstate NY probably has already changed, as it is a bit brisk here in Northern NJ.  I hope both Salisbury and Wesley enter the Battle of Route 13 healthy and with their current records of undefeated and one loss.


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 17, 2007, 08:30:16 PM
pawesleyfan, wesley24, repete, you need to go to the asc blog and read the stupid comments made by someone about coach drass.  you can find them on p405.  i have never read such trash and i am surprized that someone from d3 has not responded to them, i did.  check it out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bill McCabe on October 17, 2007, 08:41:10 PM
wesleydad, it was one poster.  crualum39 was quoting him and criticizing his statement.  You will see that poster had a lot of negative karma.  Everyone I know respects the Wesley team, coach and program.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2007, 09:11:52 PM
He was responded to originally.

Also, this is a message board, not a blog.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 17, 2007, 09:32:04 PM
all, thanks for clearing things up.  i was just surprized by the comments and couldnt find anything else to contradict what i read.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 17, 2007, 09:40:13 PM
Wesleydad, Crualum39 accurately recalled the inane comments made by TX2OK in Dec 2006.

TX2OK was called out on the ASC board at that time.  He is clearly a minority among the ASC fans.

Good luck against Salisbury.  As a loyal ASC fan, I am not sure whom to root for, if it means an ASC team might be knocked out of a Pool C bid or lose home field advantage thru out the playoffs...

But you guys know what I mean and won't take personally.    :D ;D

Travel safely.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 17, 2007, 09:40:33 PM
Wesleydad
I went round and round with TX20K before. He is just one of those posters who say whatever he likes with nothing to substanciate many of his quotes. Unfortunately there are a few of that type who post. But for the most part you will find that the people posting have as much passion for DIII football as we do and that they may disagree with you but will here what you have to say. And then you have the haters!!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bill McCabe on October 17, 2007, 09:45:23 PM
If Wesley beats Salisbury could they both get bids to the playoffs?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 17, 2007, 09:47:48 PM
Quote from: Bill McCabe on October 17, 2007, 09:45:23 PM
If Wesley beats Salisbury could they both get bids to the playoffs?
Bill, I think so.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 17, 2007, 09:55:57 PM
<cough> Does anyone else remember what happened to Wesley the last time they came to Brockport and were big favorites  ;)  They better not be looking to the gulls! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 17, 2007, 09:56:10 PM
Quote from: Bill McCabe on October 17, 2007, 09:45:23 PM
If Wesley beats Salisbury could they both get bids to the playoffs?
Bill

I think that they could. There has been some thoughts tossed around about a B and a C bid. And I believe Ralph tossed out the possibility of Wesley even going to the East.
 The out of conference schedules for both schools could end giving both some owp and oowp high quality pts.

 But Wesley has to play at Brockport this week and then we will have a great week of antisipation. Salisbury has Becker this week
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 17, 2007, 09:59:46 PM
ok so what's the weather on the far side of NY???

we're heading to the city for the Mariners CLassic with Maritime.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 17, 2007, 10:01:17 PM
pg04

I don't think Wesley will be looking beyond 1 pm Sat. They know that if they lose this week the playoffs are out. And they know that they have to play well or they will lose
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 17, 2007, 10:02:55 PM
The weather forecast for Brockport on Friday is nothing too bad.  61 and rainy. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 17, 2007, 10:03:46 PM
sid

at least it will be warmer than most october saturdays in n.y.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 17, 2007, 10:05:50 PM
pg04

Good day for Wesley's running game!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 17, 2007, 10:09:01 PM
Maybe we'll bring in the snow for the NNA game  :)


P.S. and port's running game, which is the best part of the offense.  Wesley certainly should win, but The Golden eagles have been up and down.

Probably will be the last time the two teams meet in a long while, barring playoff matchups in future years! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 17, 2007, 10:15:12 PM

I am afraid you are right about the series not continuing. With all the in state rival for Bport I don't see them having to venture far to fill out their schedule .  Won't they have just one open date anyway???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on October 17, 2007, 11:33:19 PM
That is correct. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 18, 2007, 08:21:50 AM
bring the snow....... :o

lordie this area wouldnt know what the heck to do with the snow that you guys get.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 18, 2007, 08:59:04 AM
It is not only student-athletes who can get into trouble with the content of their Facebook as Salisbury University President Janet Dudley-Eshbach (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303076,00.html) discovered.  :o

I won't even consider the limerick that ODAC poster and poet laureate, hasanova, could create using the word "tapir".  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 18, 2007, 11:08:18 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 18, 2007, 08:59:04 AM
It is not only student-athletes who can get into trouble with the content of their Facebook as Salisbury University President Janet Dudley-Eshbach (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303076,00.html) discovered.  :o

I won't even consider the limerick that ODAC poster and poet laureate, hasanova, could create using the word "tapir".  :D

Way to go Janet Baby !!!   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 19, 2007, 03:29:43 PM
Prediction Time:

Salisbury over Becker
NNA over SUNY Maritime
Frostburg State over Union (KY)
Wesley over Brockport ................in a close one
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 19, 2007, 04:29:12 PM
 :D  .....very good OxyBob.......they haven't made as big a deal here as I thought they would over the prez' facebook "incident".....hard for me to believe that someone in that position would be so naive (re;stupid) about technology- "I didn't know facebook was public domain".......if that is true and she believed that.....very scary that she runs the University my son attends....anyway

ditto lincoln lion's picks for me

and GO GULLS!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 19, 2007, 07:50:42 PM
This weeks games have to be headlined by Wesley @ B-Port... If Wesley wants to get back to the dance they can't look passed B-Port. Wesley has held opposition O's to 79 yrds rushing a game and B-Port doesn't have much of a passing game. Defensively B-Port gives up over 200 yrds per game. Wesley is averaging 231 yrds on the ground and 229 yrds a very balanced attack. The weather may make this a running game feast and Wesley has the stable of backs to pound it out and run right by you.. Wesley wins 35- 14

NNA @ Suny Maritime in the Mariners Cup Weather may effect this game too..   But I like the Builders to roll in a shootout.  The Builders have taken some lumps but this game should give them some momentum to finish out the season

Salisbury @ Becker(no relation  :'() Salisbury has come out flat a couple of games but
will win this almost before getting off the bus. But this isn't the kind of game you want before the Wesley game so I think the gulls coaching staff plays this one hard.

Union Kentucky @ Frostburg  Frostburg is not having a good year and this may be their last chance at a victory this year.. Maybe if they played as good as they talked smack they
would fair better on the field. I was surprise  at the lack of discipline from the opening kickoff in the Wesley game. Give the Bobcats one here in a close one
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 20, 2007, 08:33:55 AM
Weather report from the coastal side of the Big Apple......supposed to get to 70 today and clear out.
With the game on turf it'll not be the slop fest that it could be in brockport.

A nooner start for the second annual Mariners Cup.  We brought the trophy up last night and now I hope to see it put back on the bus for the 8-9 hour ride home.

Check out the website later...gobuilders will have our game up...then acfc will have the rest of the league (once I get to Laguardia to catch my 7 pm flight home...:)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 20, 2007, 08:38:58 AM
first game report of the day, weather in brockport is cloudy and cool.  no rain is forecast so the field will be only damp from yesterday's rain.  a nice drive except for the turrential downpours on the pa turnpike and 81, turned the drive into 6 plus hours.  it is a small world when you stay at a microtel, go to buffalo wild wings for a bite and run into the brockport outside lb coach who is the bartender there.  this should be a good game and test for wesley, but they should win it for the reasons pa stated.  take care of business and prepare for salisbury.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 01:34:30 PM
Wesley moving the ball at will so far . Wesley threatening again    7-7   B-port returned kickoff for a td.
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 01:37:46 PM
motion penaulty stops drive Wesley kicks FG 10-7
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 01:42:40 PM
Wow   ;D  NNA 41 Maritime 0 early 3rd.
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Post by: pg04 on October 20, 2007, 01:55:22 PM
Nice Drive for Brockport, now lead 14-10. 
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 01:59:07 PM
Slugfest in B-port Bport 14 -10
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 01:59:55 PM
Wesley strikes back quickly 17-14 Wesley
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 02:09:32 PM
Beavers goes 69yrd on a reversed called back....holding

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Post by: Hampton U SID on October 20, 2007, 02:16:29 PM
sounds like a fun one in brockport

apprentice up
with 728 left54-0
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 02:25:53 PM
Looks like the Builders are getting some back after last week!!
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 02:31:59 PM
Wesley 17 B-Port 14  half
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 03:09:14 PM
Wesley scores on the second half opening drive 24-14.

Wesley mixing the pass in well..Lanouette two pass recepts for tds
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 03:20:08 PM
Change of pace too Jackson for a td 31-14 Wesley . Pennewell took the Wolverines down the field and has over 100 yrds again today..
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 03:32:51 PM
Koroma scores 38-14 Wesley  1 min to go in the third
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 03:48:46 PM
B-port puts a drive together to cut the lead to 38-21 13 mins left
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 04:01:35 PM
Wesley D steps up and holds B-Port
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 04:06:46 PM
Wesley eating up clock should be  a BATTLE OF RT 13 nex week
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Post by: pg04 on October 20, 2007, 04:18:02 PM
Nice Job Wesley.  Good luck with the Gulls.  Should be a good game!   
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Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2007, 05:13:42 PM
congrats to NNA.....60 pts!!
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 20, 2007, 09:14:25 PM
Salisbury 79 Becker 20
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Post by: wesleydad on October 20, 2007, 09:41:40 PM
so much for listening to weather projections, it rained or drizzled almost to game time.  once the game started it was clear that wesley was better, just took too long to get that through to brockport.  have to improve the run defense to beat salisbury next week.  i would not want to try to defend the wesley offense, running the ball like they do and the passing game making the plays to keep drives alive.  3 td passes today were easy because of the run.  i am looking forward to next week against salisbury, let the hype begin. wesley will win this game because of the balanced attack and the early games that they won despite playing poorly.  if anyone gets to visit brockport in the future make sure to put macgregors on your visit.  about 30 minutes south in henrietta and has 100 or so beers on draft and good food.  this was a fun trip and a win makes it better.
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Post by: pg04 on October 20, 2007, 09:43:37 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on October 20, 2007, 09:14:25 PM
Salisbury 79 Becker 20

Talk about running up the score!
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 09:52:46 PM
pg04
  I noticed that Salisbury did average over 10 yrds/ carry. Other than taking a knee I don't know what else you do, I would think the Becker would opt out of s rematch next year ??? 
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Post by: Ralph Turner on October 20, 2007, 10:01:45 PM
Becker and Salisbury have the same problem.   They are independents needing games.

Remember Brockport moves to the NJAC next year as does Morrisville State.  That means that the 10-member NJAC only has 10 games to give for non-conference games.

Do the teams in the MAC want to play Salisbury?  They have 3 non-conference games per team.

I don't know.
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2007, 10:12:04 PM
Ralph

I don't know if they are scheduled or not for next year.. But wouldn't be the first time a team got whipped and decided not to play the following year.

Also Becker is joining Mt Ida , Suny Maritime and  few others in a new football/conference
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Post by: Old Ref on October 21, 2007, 09:37:01 AM
Nice job, NNA......Well done!
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Post by: SU Backer on October 21, 2007, 01:50:26 PM
       Salisbury had their 2nd/3rd team O-line, scout Qb and 4th/5th team running backs in the game and were still scoring while running fullback dive plays.....those kids were just playing hard when they got their chance. This game was not good for either team, but it did not appear that the SU coaches were trying to run it up, it just happened. I'll say this-the Becker freshman Qb, Gabriel Proffitt (sp?), is as good a "natural" talent as I have seen this year, next to Tanner Kelly @ Albright.
        Now on to Dover!
       We lost a starting tackle @ Morrisville and he didn't play yesterday, hopefully he will be back for next week. He will be needed to help slow down Robinson.
     Honestly, I feel Salisbury deserves a playoff bid regardless of next week, but there are lots of folks that think their 1 or 2 loss team deserves a bid-and have valid arguments to support the claim. SU can make that a moot point by taking care of business on the field.
     If payback figures into Saturday's game as far as motivation (in addition to the postseason), the Gulls certainly owe Wesley for the drubbing we took there 2 years ago!
      Let's GO GULLS!!
       
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 22, 2007, 07:39:49 AM
Let the chatter begin as the Battle of Route 13 week is here.  It's also the first time this year that Salisbury (9) is ranked ahead of Wesley (10) in the DIII poll.

GO GULLS !!!
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Post by: SU Backer on October 22, 2007, 09:17:33 AM
     I see that move ahead in the polls and wonder what the reason was....we played a team at home that was obviously overmatched and Wesley went on the road ( a long bus ride as well ) and beat Bport,  which is as physical as Del Valley and probably very close talent wise to them as well ???.  I'm certainly proud of SU this year and as I said before, the poll rankings are nice, but Wesley doesn't need any more fuel for their fire!
     Also Pat and Keith cannot attend Saturday- I remember the last time you all came and watched this matchup there  :D.
GO GULLS!!
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Post by: wesleydad on October 22, 2007, 11:38:22 AM
su backer, i noticed and thought the same thing.  go on the road and defeat what many percieve to be a pretty tough team and dominate the second half and drop in the polls, being passed by a squad that beat an 0 - 6 team at home.  thats what makes polls interesting to look at.  you are correct, wesley does not need any more fuel for this game and i am not sure if the will even pay attention to it.  they want to get back to the playoffs and know that beating salisbury is what is needed.  this is going to be a fun game.  the crowd is going to be large and loud.  if you are coming up, get there early, especially if you are going to tailgate.  look me up, it would be nice to meet you.  i usually park near the fenced in playground.  hoping that the weather does not effect the game.  turf field helps, but it will be better for both teams if it is not raining or too windy, always windy in dover, just not too windy this week.
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Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2007, 12:39:15 PM
I think if you take a bit of a wider glance at the factors affecting both teams you might get some ideas. For example, remember who Wesley lost to.
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Post by: SU Backer on October 22, 2007, 05:03:32 PM
   Pat, good point, at first I thought you wrote "take a wider stance"......I know that got that senator from Iowa in a lot of trouble ;D, but then I re-read it and saw a "wider glance"! Yes I see what you mean, the Montclair loss does look worse now than at the time it happened, as Montclair has been getting knocked around since then. That game was  the late start/last minute officials game, and Montclair was pretty highly thought of at that time. I see how that Wesley loss, and Montclair's subsequent record skews the data more now. I have to admit, you guys are darn good at thinking the poll through in a relatively short time each week. I just hope we are in front of them in next week's poll!!!!!
GO GULLS!!!
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 23, 2007, 08:32:33 AM
I just read that Wesley's President, Dr. Scott Miller is leaving for Bethany College in West Virginia in December.
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 23, 2007, 08:37:27 AM
SU Backer:

I with you in hoping that Salisbury will still be in front of Wesley after this weekend  :) .  I think the game is going to be much closer than the last Salisbury visit to Dover.

The teams appear to be evenly matched, and Wesley has some explosive experienced athletes led by Beavers and company.  I think this years Salisbury team is deep at some key offensive postions like QB and RB.

Early prediction has Salisbury winning by a touchdown or Field Goal.


GO GULLS !!!
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2007, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on October 23, 2007, 08:32:33 AM
I just read that Wesley's President, Dr. Scott Miller is leaving for Bethany College in West Virginia in December.

Dr. Miller will be missed. He certainly turned around a college that was in disarray.
When my son was attending Wesley the student numbers had deminished to under 800 students and now is over 1800. He welcomes my family and I every time we attend a game or other function at Wesley.  He has made Wesley a place that you want to go back to... He is very supportive of all the athletic program.

Thank you Dr. Miller !!!!

  Predictions  for the Battle of Rt #13  will come soon






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Post by: Pat Coleman on October 24, 2007, 12:40:27 AM
From what I've heard, Bethany has had similar troubles, so perhaps this is a good sign for them.
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Post by: Llamaguy on October 24, 2007, 12:44:08 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2007, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on October 23, 2007, 08:32:33 AM
I just read that Wesley's President, Dr. Scott Miller is leaving for Bethany College in West Virginia in December.

Dr. Miller will be missed. He certainly turned around a college that was in disarray.
When my son was attending Wesley the student numbers had deminished to under 800 students and now is over 1800. He welcomes my family and I every time we attend a game or other function at Wesley.  He has made Wesley a place that you want to go back to... He is very supportive of all the athletic program.

Thank you Dr. Miller !!!!

  Predictions  for the Battle of Rt #13  will come soon


Wesley by a Wolverine's wisker!  ;)
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 24, 2007, 08:02:29 AM
Llamaguy:

I was hoping you would predict Salisbury by a Seagull feather to win  ;D .
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Post by: dewcrew88 on October 24, 2007, 01:11:42 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on October 24, 2007, 08:02:29 AM
Llamaguy:

I was hoping you would predict Salisbury by a Seagull feather to win  ;D .


In my ATR, I picked Salisbury to win 20-17.
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 24, 2007, 01:48:58 PM
dewcrew88:

Thanks for your prediction for the Gulls in a close one.  So far most experts/analysts are predicting a close game which it should be, but it's interesting that with two high powered offences, the final predictions are rather low.

GO GULLS !!!   ;D
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Post by: Dr. Seagull on October 24, 2007, 09:26:35 PM
Well folks,
  Sorry I have been gone for so long but back on the biggest week of the season...Frankly, if we were talking about two 0-8 teams right now it would still be the biggest week of the season.

I tell y'all...I am impressed with Salisbury right now. They are playing there game and doing a great job at it. Wesley is not playing poorly either...But all this does not really matter...Have you seen Lou Holtz piece he does on Thurs. night football...well here is the D3 version of it...

Salisbury University,
  This is it men. The chance and respect you have been waiting for. You are there but only til Saturday...at that point in time there is a team standing in front of you. Not just any team, your rivals and despised counterparts. What happens on that field must be dictated by you. If not, you lose. This is a day that a great team will win and we are that great team. Offense, it is time to come out and run our offense up and down that field. There defense is big and athletic but so are we. I keep hearing and seeing all this stuff about Bryan Robinson...O Line, everyday in practice you go against Joe Galloway...He is a better and more complete D-lineman than Robinson. You are the ones that lead the conference in scoring and there are not any 11 defenders wearing blue jerseys that are gonna stop this train.
  Defense, this isn't the defense of years past. This is 11 men playing as one. We set the tempo and take it to their offense. Lets play 2 yards deep in their backfield. Cock those arms and jack those jaws at the snap of the ball. Trust me, by series number two they will be beggin' to just sit back in the shotgun and play pass pro. The biggest magnifying glass will be on the D backs. Historically, this has been the achilles heel against us. NOT THIS TIME. Get in the face of Beavers, Clarke, and Lanouette and let them know that we are setting the line of scrimmage and don't think you are running a 10 yard out and not getting jacked.
  Men, looking back on the amount of times that this opportunity presents itself, you will find that this is precious. Leave the girlfriends at home, the schoolwork on campus, and the partying til after the game.
Come Saturday in Dover, men, there is going to be a war, a collision, and an opportunity for us to show the rest of the nation what being a Sea Gull is all about. Lets role up Route 13 and take care of business, OUR STYLE

Salisbury 34 Wesley 14

Roll Gulls baby #56










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Post by: Hampton U SID on October 24, 2007, 09:33:43 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on October 24, 2007, 01:48:58 PM
dewcrew88:

Thanks for your prediction for the Gulls in a close one.  So far most experts/analysts are predicting a close game which it should be, but it's interesting that with two high powered offences, the final predictions are rather low.

GO GULLS !!!   ;D

But you also have a pair of outstanding defenses that know each other.  Only thing I will say is I do not see either team hitting their scoring averages in this game.
I can see a 28-24 game.

dont ask for prediction.......(shifting hats to ACFC SID)...wouldnt be right...:)
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 25, 2007, 07:56:38 AM
nnasid:

I would never ask you for a prediction  ;).  I know you have to be PC  ;D.

GO GULLS !!!
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Post by: wesleydad on October 25, 2007, 09:30:32 PM
well, it is almost saturday.  cant wait for the game to get started.  looks like the weather is going to be a factor with rain predicted, heavy at times, on saturday.  the good thing is that wesley has turf so field condition will not be a problem.  which team will a wet surface effect more?  i think salisbury, with their option offense will have a tougher time dealing with a wet ball than wesley will.  wesley does not do much fancy stuff with the ball in the backfield.  also, i think it is believed that a receiver has the advantage in wet conditions.  if that is true than wesley will not be effected much by the wet ball on offense.  it will still come down to line play, who controls it will win.  if wesley holds onto the ball and can control salisbury's running attack they should win the game.  it should be a great game with 2 of the better teams in the country battling for rt 13 bragging rights and a high seed in the playoffs.  hoping that the weather forecasters are wrong as they are so many times.  go wolverines!
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 25, 2007, 10:04:26 PM
wesleydad

i am shopping for some rain gear tomorrow
not much fun in dover with a wind driven rain

i am going to try and hit dover early this Saturday so i'll try and look you up. depends on traffic but i think i am coming down alone so i can get out of pa early enough to miss that mess in chester
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 25, 2007, 11:10:10 PM
 This weeks games are all road games for the conference except Wesley.

Frostburg St @ Westminster  Tough one to call. FSU has not played to many good games with exception to their win in the first week over a what turns out to be very good Randolph- Macon..  Got to give the edge to Westminster

BrockportSt. at Morrisville   Brockport plays a tough schedule every year but this one should be a bit easier. Morrisville showed signs of the future against Salisbury that they are playing hard but  Brockport gets the win here.

  NNA @ So. Va. The Builders have played well against most of their opponents this year and showed that they can score. The Builders keep rolling along here. 


  The Game, The Battle of Rt 13, Whatever you call it it's BIG..... Salisbury @ Wesley
Salisbury runs the ball as well as anyone in the country... They average over 46 pt's a game. They also hold opponents to 71 yrds rushing a game and allow only 15 pt's a  game. Wesley averages over 35 pts a game and also allows just over 15 pt's to opponents. Their Defense is allowing a little over 79 yrds per game on the ground.
This game has the makings of a donny brook.
Salisbury has a stable of running backs that are churning out almost 360 yrds a game on the ground. Wesley is almost a perfect 50/50 run pass yardage but also has 4 running backs that can carry the load if needed.
My take on the game ..
Wesley needs this game to assure a playoff spot. Wesley has played big games the last two years and has a number of players who played in those games. Wesley's  D is playing as well as they did in both playoff runs in which they stopped the highly touted UMHB rushing attack. Wesley plays options very very well.
  Salisbury has played a tough schedule as well. And they have beaten everyone handily.
The Gulls will be a tough foe and if they get an early lead could control a lot of clock.
Wesley has the ability to score from anywhere, anytime and that can negate a ball control team. The big question is how hard is it going to rain??? That could effect both teams.
I pick Wesley here to win a  hard fought game. But as I have seen before when you get two teams with this ability together ther can be some odd scores. A blow out either way would not be a shock.  A close low scoring game would not surprise. I don't think Salisbury can win atrack meet with Wesley and Del Val's speed seemed to bother the Gulls.
I look forward to seeing two great teams go toe to toe on Saturday   
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 26, 2007, 07:21:34 AM
My take on the ACFC this weekend:

Frostburg State over Westminster
B-Port over Mo'Ville
NNA over So. VA

and drum roll..................................................

Salisbury over Wesley in a close one.
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Post by: AF4 on October 26, 2007, 05:08:38 PM
Huntingdons Rishard Davis to b in sports illistrated 'faces in the crowd'

check it out at this web site   

http://www.huntingdon.edu/news/archive/2007/oct/10_26_07_davis
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Post by: SU Backer on October 26, 2007, 05:34:34 PM
    ACFC Picks ;
NNA winning over SoVa
Bport handling Morrisville
Frostburg losing to Westminster....probably the other way if the game was at Frostburg

and........Salisbury shocking Wesley on the road :o!
GO GULLS!!!
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Post by: Hampton U SID on October 27, 2007, 08:22:57 AM
well hopefully the rain along the coast clears off for the Rt. 13 battle.  It's clearer in the central part of the state where we face Southern Va.  With a turf field at Amherst HS, it'll be at least a decent playing surface after all the rain in VA.
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 27, 2007, 09:37:12 AM
 Got my new rain gear and heading out for my two hour trek south. I'll give you all a good game account later tonight when I get back to Pa. game will be on the net at WDEL.com.

  Looks like the weather may not clear before late afternoon so I expect a lot of running the football from both teams!!!
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 27, 2007, 01:42:29 PM
Salisbury 0, Wesley 0 at the end of the first quarter.
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 27, 2007, 05:34:48 PM
Congratulations to all the Wesley Fans on what sounded like a good game that went down to the wire.  It seemed like the defenses on both teams made this their game.  Poor special teams play and Beaver's speed on that kick-off after Morris' 80 yard run was better that the Kentucky Derby's "fastest two minutes" on earth.

Hopefully both teams will make the post season playoffs, and again congratulations on winning the ACFC.
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Post by: wesleydad on October 27, 2007, 09:13:38 PM
what a fun football game.  wesley's d was fantastic today, one long run for td against, which should have been no gain was about all salisbury got today.  they had a couple of other runs, but for the most part salisbury was not able to do much.  wesley's o did just enough to win the game.  beavers kickoff return was great.  schatz did not have his best game throwing the ball, but his td pass to clarke was on the money.  wesley is back in the picture in the south.  it will be interesting to see if they jump wash and jeff with this win and wash and jeff's  close win.  could they possibly get the 1 seed in the south.  pawesleyfan, it was nice to finally meet you.  hopefully you had a safe drive back.  the rain stopped about a half hour before game time and the fact that wesley has turf, the field was not a factor.  salisbury's qb is very elusive and gave the d fits escaping many tough situations.  the better team won today.  a week off, then a trip to morrisville, who beat brockport today.  take care of business and see who they play in the first round of what i think will be another run deep into the south region.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on October 27, 2007, 10:38:41 PM
Huntingdon 43-0 over LaGrange at Lagranges homecoming

good crowd, night game, lots of tail gaiters, and good to see Hawks 88...

everyone played for The Hawks...

next wk in Va

Go  Hawks...and Keep the Faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 27, 2007, 10:39:21 PM
Great game for Huntingdon's defense tonight at LaGrange. While the D controlled the game all night, 4 TO's for HC in the first half kept it close 15-0. Wouldn't have minded being a fly on the wall at half-time. Must have been some kind of speech because the offense came back out with the intensity turned up a notch and the rout was on from there.


Go Hawks!!

Good to see you again there, AF4
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 28, 2007, 12:44:18 AM
Great win for the Wolverines today!!! Played a solid game on both sides of the ball.
Beavers is just unbelievable on kick returns. Just slips through holes and then it's a foot chase!!! Can't be a footrace because noone can catch him from brhind!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 28, 2007, 02:09:36 AM
SUbacker/ NJLincoln

Any word on Sheahin? I heard that he broke his collarbone. It appeared that he slid into the fence behind the player area. His only pass went for 53 yrds. I would have thought he would have gotten into the gam ealier than the last 5 mins?
Curley runs the option as well as any QB can run it. He is certainly elusive. Doesn't look flashy but get yards.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FSU Bobcats on October 28, 2007, 01:08:15 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on October 26, 2007, 05:34:34 PM
    ACFC Picks ;
NNA winning over SoVa
Bport handling Morrisville
Frostburg losing to Westminster....probably the other way if the game was at Frostburg

and........Salisbury shocking Wesley on the road :o!
GO GULLS!!!

We have out highest scoring output of the year.....and we still lose.

The days of being ranked seem like a really distant memory now!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on October 28, 2007, 02:24:36 PM
Great Game, Wesley was explosive today especially when it counts.  Not knocking the Option but when your behind and you have a sub par passing offense where where the ball is thrown like a drunk duck with a bad sense of direction its no wonder you don't throw more interceptions.  One more thing i thought it was quite nice to see the gulls squirm in the final minutes having to do what they hate the most throwing the ball.  It was probably not a good warm up game for your toughest opponents the past three years 79-20(Becker who) any way Salisbury will make the playoffs (the ecac's) sorry i just don't think that you will make the NCAA's.  Your strength of schedule is okay not as good as wesley though.  It would be nice to see you in but i dunno.  Oh yah forgot one more thing way to go Wolverines 3 in a row and even more important winning the battle of Route 13.  Wesley has made its mark once again in the conference.  One more team to take care of and then Home Field? East or South region? Number 1 seed in either south or east?  Give me some thoughts?
Oh i just wanted to say wow Whitewater really took the crusaders out back the barn and gave them a good ole fashion whoopin.  Possible rematch i think in the National championship.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 28, 2007, 07:19:50 PM
 Wesley 24....score by quarters; 1ST-SU O- WC 0, 2ND SU 7 WC 10, 3RD SU 3 WC 7, 4TH SU 3 WC 3
Final WC 20- SU 13......yards gained SU 401, WC 341.....as far as passing goes; WC 7 of 21 for 94 yards......oh that's right the SU qb(s) throw so poorly with those "drunk duck" passes they only threw for 116 yards. Did you see a wide open receiver for SU drop that sure td pass in the 1st quarter? Yep, you're right, SU couldn't move the ball all day. Whether you want to believe the facts or not, the difference in the game was Beavers' kick return for a touchdown- the offenses matched scoring, 13-13. You come on here totally clueless about what you even saw, hey you guys won the game, try winning with some class. Wesley has a talented team with what could be the fastest player in D3-and he was the difference maker in this game. The Wesley players know they were in a battle...ask one of them. I have heard this game called a "beatdown" by some Wesley folks- I was there, it was a close hard hitting game, that went down to the final play, that my friends is anything but a "beatdown".
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 28, 2007, 07:46:23 PM
su backer, yes, i did see the salisbury receiver drop a td pass in the first quarter which was matched by the dropped td pass by wesley in the 4th quarter.  if you are implying that wesley's passing stats are a result of weak passes, you were there, 4 or 5 dropped passes kept wesley passing stats low.  bottom line is that 140 or so of salisbury total yards came on 2 running plays, add in the 50 yd pass in the 4th quarter and that makes about 50% of salisbury yards on 3 plays.  stats do not win games.  it was a good football game, both teams should win at least a couple of games in the playoffs and maybe they will meet again.  as far as the class comment goes, salisbury did not show much before the game by coming 5 or so yards onto the field while the wesley seniors were being introduced. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: IchKriegIhnNichtHoch on October 28, 2007, 08:22:53 PM
Hahah While playing for Wesley I have seen my fair share of classless moments on the part of several Wesley personalities.  But please spare me...Someone from SU talking to people from Wesley about showing class is as good a case as the pot calling the kettle black as I have ever heard.  Both parties are as guilty in the matter so it should never be brought up to begin with.  It is a conference game played by two teams that are separated by merely 40 minutes of the same highway.  Wesley hates SU and SU hates Wesley...So take your licks and run with them like we had to in 04 when we lost at your place. 

As far as how the game went...It was very indicative of how the season has gone for Wesley.  Special teams sparks the win.  We'll take the wins any way we can get them just like any other team.  Sorry about your luck...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 28, 2007, 08:42:47 PM
 wesleydad, The players from SU coming onto the field before the seniors ceremony ended was not good :(- but don't blame the players, either a coach or other gameday personnel instructed them to go to their sideline, they don't go anywhere unless told to go. When they run to their sideline their fans cheer...just like every other team-so don't blame the fans. If it was a SU coach that told the kids to go it's his fault, and I don't believe it was intentional if that's what happened. Some Wesley players heckled the SU fans at that time too....they're kids, I didn't care....that stuff just hapens when kids get into the atmosphere of a big game like this.
As far as the stats go, my intention was to discredit the false view that this game was in anyway a blowout. I understand fans see things one sided, but come on, a blowout? It ended 20-13, the score and stats were very close-the difference in the game is a kick return for a touchdown-that is a fact. I agree Wesley was the better team Saturday - they won and deserved that win-that is a fact. They were also playing at home on senior day-that is a fact too!
I look forward to this game every year-win or lose- it is usually the biggest regular season game of the year for both squads. I know that was a heck of a game from where I sat. I got upset with Wesley24's calling out the SU quartebacking, both SU kids played a hell of a game, and one went down with a broken collar bone in the game as well.  They both can and do throw the ball very well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 28, 2007, 09:00:54 PM
Nothing like a good old rivalry to get some banter going here.

It's always rather quiet in here.

It'll be interesting to see what lies ahead for these two teams when they finish there bussiness in two weeks. Could be a second week of the playoffs rematch
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 28, 2007, 10:22:00 PM
Hey folks, I'm new to the board.  I'm a Wesley fan from the local neighborhood....

That said, the game was anything but a blow-out.  Wesley did have the drop on SU for the majority of the game though, being up by 10 for a good portion of it.  However, the fat lady didn't sing until the interception by Wesley late in the 4th, so no way was it a route.

I couldn't believe the dropped pass in the endzone by SU in the 1st quarter.  That would of definately changed the tone of the game for sure.  Instead, Beaver's kick-off return ended SU's momentum almost immediately.

A couple key points won the day for Wesley:

1.  The defense was the real difference.  Except for the few big yardage plays, they did one hell of a job for the most part in shutting down the quarterback option, forcing the passing game in the 4th that ended in the broken collarbone.

2.  NO TURNOVERS!!  Had Wesley turned the ball over as they had done earlier in the season the game would of been good as lost.  SU's explosive offense would of capitalized big-time.  However, Schatz didn't throw any intereceptions and the ball was well protected.  SU was lucky that they didn't lose more fumbles in the game than they did. 

SU was one tough opponent.  The running game was strong, if not predictable further into the game.  Their running backs were big!!  Hats off to the starting quarterback.  He's got definate skills in running the option!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 28, 2007, 11:43:10 PM
Here is an opinion article from the local rag

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071028/SPORTS/710280358

The SU defense did a good job holding Wesley's talented offense to 13 points.  However, their tackling was awful against Wesley's running back who was dragging the pile 5 yards every play.  The SU offense had two passes dropped in the endzone as Valdase Morris dropped a low throw in the endzone as well.  SU didn't capitalize on their chances and they needed to in order to beat Wesley.

The Wesley defense was the difference as their d-line disrupted SU's blocking all day.  I was shocked when I saw that SU had 400 yards of offense, because it sure didn't seem like it from watching the game.  The Beavers kickoff return was the perfect counterpunch when SU took the lead

SU would have to play a near perfect game to beat Wesley at home, and that clearly didn't happen on Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 29, 2007, 08:55:50 AM
PA_wesleyfan:

I have heard any official word on Sheahin.  Unofficially, as everyone knows, it's a broken collarbone.  I wish Bobby a speedy and full recovery.  Fortunately, the Gulls had depth/experience in the QB position, unlike when Dustin Johnson went down a few years ago.  Bobby's injury takes away Salisbury's passing option, but the option have been great for the Gulls.

With the ACFC crown gone, it's on to the Reagents Cup and post season play!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 29, 2007, 09:34:52 AM
SU Backer---
I think you need to consider the source when viewing Wesley24's post. Glotting is classless. It is also bad karma and I think his karma score reflects that.

As far as SU's quarterbacking, I was very impressed with Ronnie Curley. He is a tough kid and a leader. When Tillage dropped the sure touchdown pass in the first quarterback, he ran down to the end zone and to pick up his teammate. You could almost see him saying, "shake it off, we'll need you later and we got your back."

As far as SU missing tackles on Pennewell, he's done that all year. Ask Frostburg, and or check out the link to WDEL posted on early pages on this board. He is elusive, but also very strong and finishes nearly every run. Salisbury did the best job on him of any opponent this year.

I don't know that I agree with Mr. Brennan's idea in the Daily Times article, that Salisbury should have thrown the ball more. Three interceptions resulted. Sheahin's injury may have hurt, he made one nice pass, but he looked indecisive on most of his drop backs and had to take off when the protection wasn't too bad. Probably have to credit the Wesley secondary for good coverage too.

When you run the type of offense that the Gulls run, you have to stick with it. And therein, I think, lies the problem with the scheme. When you get stuffed in the run game, you have to make plays in the passing game. That gets tougher when in a big game against a quality opponent. Mary Hardin-Baylor had the same problem against Whitewater on Saturday and the past couple of years against Wesley. Any game where the Gulls have to throw the ball more than 15 times, they are probably going to lose. I also don't like that the best ball carriers don't see the ball enough. What if Jamar Garner or Valdase Morris get the ball 20 times a game? What happens? Well they probably don't average over 10 yards a carry like now, but I think they are both capable of putting up big numbers. I also think that this offense is too likely to turn the ball over, they just put the ball on the ground too much.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 29, 2007, 10:17:49 AM
 Conrad, I know you're correct about some of the comments made- I just took exception to someone that clueless calling out kids that play the hardest position in the game. I'm done with it- Wesley took care of business and won and deserved to win too. Salisbury showed up and played hard until time expired-they played as hard as any team they have had in the 5 years that I have been going-and I haven't missed a single game. The effort cannot be faulted, sometimes you just get beat.
You're also spot on about the triple option- it is tough to play from behind because passing is not the stronger part of the gameplan. What many people don't understand (that don't see it much-not referring to you), is that a few big runs per game are what it produces. The dive will get stopped a bunch of times, the option toss will get dropped for losses-but they will pop one every so often for big yards or a score. Even in games where they score a ton of points, they get stopped a lot of times too. My contention is they are a better team running when they throw more, early in the game. I agree that Valdase Morris and Jamar Garner need more touches per game-and throwing the ball to them is something that hopefully happens more. I was impressed with Curley on that dropped ball too, and Tillage has come up big more times than not for the Gulls too. The turnaround on this team started when some players were dismissed during last year's season and Tillage was elevated to a starter.
Hope to get a playoff bid, don't want the son's senior year to end yet (or ever), but whatever happens, he, and this team have provided me with some of the best times of my life!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 30, 2007, 06:16:07 AM
SU's Bobby Sheahin is out for the year

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071030/SPORTS/710300356/1006

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on October 30, 2007, 08:53:22 AM
Tough news on Sheahin...

He surely would come in handy in the post season.  Remembering that play, he must have just landed perfectly to break it.  It didn't look like much when it happened.  I wonder what kind of weeks both Salisbury and Wesley are having?  With no games after the big one...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 30, 2007, 04:21:46 PM
When Sheahin hit the side lines I didn't see him go down. But he was so close to the fence I thought he had slipped and hit it. He seemed to flip the ball as he went out of bounds but maybe he was already slipping at that point. The field didn't seems to be slippery but I have not walked on that side of the field's sidelines beyond the stands
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 30, 2007, 04:43:07 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 30, 2007, 04:21:46 PM
When Sheahin hit the side lines I didn't see him go down. But he was so close to the fence I thought he had slipped and hit it. He seemed to flip the ball as he went out of bounds but maybe he was already slipping at that point. The field didn't seems to be slippery but I have not walked on that side of the field's sidelines beyond the stands

He hit the ground pretty hard.  I'm not sure he wasn't trying to avoid the fence and got hurt in the process.

Wesley Stadium's fences are pretty close to the field.  Earlier in the game, Wesley's Teron Murray had to flip over the fence off the endzone.  Luckily, he didn't get hurt.  The fence has definately claimed victims over the years....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 02, 2007, 10:21:32 PM
There's only one game in the ACFC this week.

Brockport St. @ NNA   If you go by comparative scores NNA should win by 40.  But as has been proven over and over again that's not a good thing to do. The field had to be a mess last week at Morrisville which may have contributed to the outcome. NNA has been playing well against everyone that isn't named Salisbury or Wesley. This is B-Ports last ACFC game and NNA would love nothing more than to send them off with another loss.  I am going with the Builders this week  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 03, 2007, 10:22:42 AM
Believe it or not the field is in pretty good shape.  We've been teased by that nor-easter (former hurricane dora) got wind..but no major rain.

Plus our field is only used 5-6 times a year (we have no soccer or field hockey to mess with).

It's gonna be blustery though (20-30 mph winds most of the day)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2007, 01:46:09 PM
Hampden-Sydney leads Huntingdon 14-0 end of 1st quarter. Huntingdon has moved the ball well but turned it over twice in the red zone.
Not sure what's up with these turnovers. We haven't done this all year until last week. We were able to get away with it last week against a bad team but are about to get blown out if we don't get straightened out quick.


Now 20-7 w/about 4 min. left in 2nd quarter. HC hasn't come close to stopping Hampden-Sydney's offense yet.

Until now. HC interception on halfback pass.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2007, 02:12:56 PM
HC with a drive after the int. to make it 20-14 on a Golson to Varosso TD pass.

Go Hawks!!


HSC gets a score right before the half to make it 28-14. Huntingdon has to find a way to slow down HSC's offense if we are going to be able to come back.


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2007, 03:10:03 PM
HC with a couple of stops has cut it to 28-21 in the third.

Hawks with another stop as HSC misses a field goal late in 3rd. Still 28-21.

Ridgeway in at QB for Huntingdon. Golson went out with ankle injury last possession.

Go Hawks!!


I really hate when our radio guy does what he just did. "Huntingdon has a pass completed at the 35 for a first down, but it goes through his hands incomplete."
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2007, 03:47:25 PM
HSC with a score and misses extra point. HSC 34-HC 21.

Golson back in for HC.


Go Hawks!!

HC goes for on 4th and 4 at own 26 and Golson overthrows wide open receiver to give the ball back to HSC.
Sounds like HSC put some subs in and fumbles back to HC.
Hawks can't move ball and have to punt. That'll pretty much do it.

Defense came back in the 2nd half and did a great job of holding HSC's offense down but HC's offense couldn't keep it going.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 03, 2007, 10:09:34 PM
Kentucky Wesleyan (D-II) 35, LaGrange 21.

Good effort!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 04, 2007, 01:43:28 PM
 Anyone traveling to Morrisville next week that would like any info on the area can
message me . I am from that area and have family there and some places to spend your Friday and if staying Saturday nights
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on November 04, 2007, 03:43:22 PM
I would like to apologize for any disconcern i might have implied about Salisbury's injured QB.  Hope he heals well.  Big week for Wesley and Salisbury this week.  Salisbury will absolutely destroy a Frostburg team that hasn't been the same as they were five years ago.  Wesley is going to the cold fridged Upstate New York.  Been to the area Cortland, Ithica, and Morrisville is all right next to each other.  And it is a different kind of cold.  Shrugging off our reputation for the past two years that we can't play in bad weather will be essential in this game.  That being said i think that wesley will win their final game. 
And yes when the ball is fluttering in the air and is underthrown by 10 to 15 yards that is a drunk duck with a bad sense of direction.  Don't blame one drop ball for Salisbury losing.  Also wesley dropped a ball and the reciever ran into the fence while jumping over it, that fence is a little to close.  Last year Clarke ran into the fence on a pass play and was a little lost. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 04, 2007, 10:40:34 PM
NNA sid

Tough loss yesterday. Looks like the Builders had a bad 4th quarter! They should win the Oyster Bowl next week and finish at 500 for the season
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 04, 2007, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 04, 2007, 10:40:34 PM
NNA sid

Tough loss yesterday. Looks like the Builders had a bad 4th quarter! They should win the Oyster Bowl next week and finish at 500 for the season


We had only had one "fumble" all season and picked the worst time for our first true one.  The other was a punt off our leg.
Chowan's had a rough year and they're going to the CIAA next year so this is our last meeting with them.  Travis needs 121 yards for 1,000 and heck Sam Arnold needs 210 for 1,000....will make for a fun Oyster Bowl
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 06, 2007, 10:51:27 PM
Dress warm for Morrisville and don't be surprised to see snow!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 07, 2007, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: nnasid on November 04, 2007, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 04, 2007, 10:40:34 PM
NNA sid

Tough loss yesterday. Looks like the Builders had a bad 4th quarter! They should win the Oyster Bowl next week and finish at 500 for the season


We had only had one "fumble" all season and picked the worst time for our first true one.  The other was a punt off our leg.
Chowan's had a rough year and they're going to the CIAA next year so this is our last meeting with them.  Travis needs 121 yards for 1,000 and heck Sam Arnold needs 210 for 1,000....will make for a fun Oyster Bowl

nnsid:

Good luck and you should beat Chowan.  Hopefully Chowan won't get good overnight, so that Lincoln can get at least one win next season as the Lions transition to DII and the CIAA.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 07, 2007, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 06, 2007, 10:51:27 PM
Dress warm for Morrisville and don't be surprised to see snow!!!!

Just got word your game is now at Colgate at Noon
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 08, 2007, 01:40:28 PM
   Week 11:
I think all the ACFC teams win...........except one.
Salisbury over Frostburg.......SU's entire NCAA playoff hopes ride on this game....I think they win and are in........that should be enough motivation to get the job done in this Regent's Cup Rivalry Game....I hope!
Wesley gets to miss the pleasure of playing on that fine Morrisville bog of a field and will handle Mo'ville at Colgate.
Bport in a close one over Buff State
  and NNA besting Chowan in the Oyster Bowl....
may they all come out healthy and GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 08, 2007, 07:29:28 PM
SU Backer

What's the word on Sheahin? How bad was the break and which arm was it?

Frostburg didn't seem to have much heart when they played Wesley. They did chatter an awful lot for a team not doing well. Especially
one of their DB's

  Looks like someone from the south may end up in the east .Sunday will be interesting. Good Luck to the Gulls. Two teams from the ACFC would be great.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 08, 2007, 09:49:58 PM
PA.......Sheahin broke his collarbone, but I'm not sure if it is on the throwing arm side or not....but he is definitely done for the season.  I feel bad for any player that loses any games, because their careers are over far too soon anyway. He is already a junior so there were not that many games left for him, hopefully he comes back healthy next year, as he is talented and a good guy too. Frostburg will get up for this game -kinda like Army/Navy- throw out the records type game. I hope SU doesn't take them lightly.
I see you have mentioned that you are familiar with the Morrisville area......the area is beautiful. They're field however, is at the bottom of a large hillside and stays wet and "heavy" all the time, according to their guys. I've been to Colgate.....you guys will experience a top rate facility there....good luck.....hope we meet again in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 09, 2007, 03:07:11 PM
Let's Go Gulls!!! Keep the Reagents Cup in Salisbury
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 09, 2007, 09:44:15 PM
Well that was a fast season.

B-Port @ Buff St.  this once was an ACFC game but from now on it will be a NJAC contest. B-Port has been up and down and found enough to bounce back and beat a decent NNA team. Buff st. beat up a Morrisville team B-Port lost to. This is ome of those games the coaches don't have to worry  about the players getting up for. Give B-Port the edge here.

Chowan @ NNA What are they thinking in Murfreesboro??? DII??? NNA in a walk and a 500 season. Go Builders!!!

  Wesley @ Morrisville at Colgate.. M-Ville joins Buff st and B-Portoffsthe NJAC next year. Tough for a new program.. Wesley wants a good seed so they need to show up here and play like they need it. The Wolverines pull away here for the win.

  Frostburg st. and Salisbury @ Naval Academy  Salisbury has to win to get a playoff bid. Frostburg has nothing to lose and probably with throw every play they have at the Gulls but I don't think Frostburg can slow down the option enough to keep it close. Salisbury wins big here and joins the fun of the playoffs

 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 10, 2007, 03:35:31 PM
Pretty interesting Wesley/ Morrisville State game.  71-27 over Morrisville State.  Over 700 yards of offense for Wesley, a new school record. The game, however, started with Morrisville putting up a spirited first half including a first posession TD and a blocked punt for a TD as well, going into the half tied  20-20.  Hats-off to Morrisville with having only 4 Seniors on the entire team!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx on November 10, 2007, 05:35:23 PM
Final:

Salisbury 35

Frostburg 14
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 10, 2007, 09:32:00 PM
Chowan pulls away in the last two minutes to take a 61-55 decision on the hard....oops...hardwood action starts NEXT week.    ;D

What an Oyster Bowl game....NNA up 28-0 and Chowan's QB goes Playstation wild.  He accounted for seven touchdowns - four passing including two jump balls that the Hawks soared in with for a 61-55 IN FOUR OVERTIME  win.
He threw for 248 and ran for 79.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 10, 2007, 09:40:02 PM
I think that Huntingdon and LaGrange will enjoy the SLIAC next year.

HC 42, Westminster MO 27.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on November 10, 2007, 10:20:05 PM
Ralph

I believe we will like the sliac, we beat Lagrange (43-0) and Westminister (42-27) of the future Sliac.. although it looks like we won handily against Westminister... it was really closer... they were better and it was a better game than it looks on the score board

i heard we will also (in addition to Sliac member schools) play Hamden -Sydney, MURRVUL, and Oshkosh (although scuttle butt is Faulkner is trying to buy out Oshkosh (which i hope happens....cause i got to drive to montgomery for faulkner)

good luck to all in the playoffs

i got to b in THE VALLEY and will try to visit some friends in salem on dec 15

good luck southern teams

Keep the Faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bucksweep on November 11, 2007, 06:00:58 AM
Is it time to move the regents cup back to a home site. I think they would get more fans at either SSU or FSU for the game.  It must have seemed empty int he stadium for the game.  Just a though...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on November 11, 2007, 07:38:52 AM
It looked like there were about 2,000 SU fans and 400 FSU fans.  Probably because of FSU's record.  FSU really came out ready to play and gave SU a game for awhile.

Once again, turnovers are going to kill SU in the playoffs.  They need to get it corrected in a hurry.  As we saw at Wesley, the Gulls can hang with the top teams, but not if they turn the ball over multiple times.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 11, 2007, 09:59:46 AM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on November 11, 2007, 07:38:52 AM
It looked like there were about 2,000 SU fans and 400 FSU fans.  Probably because of FSU's record.  FSU really came out ready to play and gave SU a game for awhile.

Once again, turnovers are going to kill SU in the playoffs.  They need to get it corrected in a hurry.  As we saw at Wesley, the Gulls can hang with the top teams, but not if they turn the ball over multiple times.

Well stated.  Wesley's early season close games and their loss to Montclair State were in large due to excessive turnovers (4+).  Keep the ball discipline up and you have a fighting chance.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 11, 2007, 10:49:36 AM
Quote from: bucksweep on November 11, 2007, 06:00:58 AM
Is it time to move the regents cup back to a home site. I think they would get more fans at either SSU or FSU for the game.  It must have seemed empty int he stadium for the game.  Just a though...

  If you ask the players they probably would say that just the opportunity to play in a venue like the Naval Acad. is what they look forward to as much as the game itself.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 11, 2007, 06:06:15 PM
good win for wesley after a sloppy beginning for the defense.  710 yards offense, they could have scored 100 if they wanted to, not sure how morrisville beat anybody with that defense.  great for the acfc, 2 in, unfortunately they meet each other again in the second round should both win.  from a quick first glance, i am not sure how hampden-sydney will be able to stop wesley since they have given up over 30 in 6 games, against offenses not nearly as good as wesley's is.  i think salisbury can win against muhlenburg.  i am not sure how good the teams are that muhlenburg beat if ursinus was one of the better ones and they were very small.  can salisbury hold onto the ball.  muhlenburg has a strong d so the game will be interesting.  i do not expect wash and jeff to survive against either ncwc or umhb.  i will not be surprized if they lose in the first round.  i think wesley will win the south and probably get another rematch with uww.  if uww gets beat wesley may host the semi since i do not see case winning the uww bracket.  oh well, it should be fun.  paweselyfan, nice area oneida, nice to visit, but i would not want to live there, not enough to do and it was already snowing yesterday in the morning.  if you make it down this saturday stop by, we will be in our usual spot.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 11, 2007, 06:29:27 PM
Wesleydad
I am starting to get my honeydos done and brownie points together but I don't' know if I have a enough saved up. And it all depends on the wifes bone scan results too.

The Stone Station may make a visit to Wesley this week. You can't  miss em. They will have all their Bridgewater attire with them and they put out the BEST D3 spread everywhere they go. And they are great people and are great for D3 so introduce yourselves .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 11, 2007, 06:50:50 PM
pawesley, i hope that all goes well with your wife, my prayers for her.  i will have to check out stone station.  if you cant make it this week, i think next weeks game will be better.  having fun reading all the umhb posters wishing for their rematches with muc and uww.  i notice that they arent asking for another rematch with wesley, wonder why? ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 11, 2007, 07:18:11 PM
 I will wait to venture in that domain(ASC board) again(SOME UMHB fans and I don't have the same opinions on the South). The Stone Station people will probably decide soon on where they will go this week. Bo(Llama) has a lot of knowledge about D3 and they have hosted many a tailgate all over the D3 map. I don't think I met Matt , But he is also up on the D3 football guru list
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 11, 2007, 09:05:51 PM
what a weekend for scoring in the conference
71-27
55-13
and..gulp...61-55 in 4 OT
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 11, 2007, 09:09:52 PM
WOW Sid I figured the Builders would score a bunch just didn't see them giving up a  bunch plus 6 ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 11, 2007, 10:20:07 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 11, 2007, 09:09:52 PM
WOW Sid I figured the Builders would score a bunch just didn't see them giving up a  bunch plus 6 ;D

Like I said...the Chowan QB went (Playstation/Xbox360, insert favorite video game here) on us.

I've never been involved in one of those types of games, but it was absolutely insane.

Good to see 2 ACFC teams get in...was hoping Salisbury would've been in another region to see how far the ACFC banner can go (times 2).  But now if the conference can snag a pair of W's on Saturday, its route 13..part 2.

Dangit..we have a men's basketball game that day :(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 12, 2007, 08:22:58 AM
SID:

If there is any consolation, you lost to a DII  ;) school.  I too like you was hoping Salisbury and Wesley were in different brackets, but I'm just glad the Gull made the playoff and were B's no less  :) .  I think Salisbury without turnovers can win at the Mules, and with Wesley hosting, it could very much ending up Route 13 part II.  Hopefully for the Gulls the outcome would be different, but I digress, we have to play Muhlenburg first at their place.
Title: GO GULLS! Congrats on the bid....
Post by: SU Backer on November 12, 2007, 04:47:45 PM
   Good job SU....kept the Cup for another year by getting it done against a determined FSU team,  that always plays hard against the Gulls in the Regents Cup game. Turnovers helped the Bobcats hang around for most of the game, although you never felt like the outcome was ever in doubt. I don't understand their record, they have as good a running back in Young, as we have faced this season. Good athletes at many positions on the field too. Not much in the way of fan support either, as mentioned previoulsly, if they had 200 out of the 2500 or so that attended, that would probably be a generous number.
 Anyway, on to Muhlenburg! If SU doesn't turn the ball over they will win this game. I think team speed favors the Gulls and playing on the old style turf may benefit them as well. This group of players have all played on that surface at Towson and at St. Peter's, so it is not "new" for them. However, if we continue this late season pattern of fumbling the ball Muhlenburg would be very tough to beat. They are 10-0 for a reason- they are a good team! Pat and the guys see this as a pretty close match up and I agree, it should be a heck of a game. On that "other" :D ACFC team I think HSC is in for a very long day at Wesley.
 May they all come out healthy and GO GULLS!!!!
Title: Re: GO GULLS! Congrats on the bid....
Post by: SU Backer on November 12, 2007, 04:49:53 PM
I'm not sure what I did wrong, but I meant to post this on the Atlantic Central/Independants board.......sorry :-[
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 12, 2007, 05:43:21 PM
Hi SU,

It should be a good game with a high powered offense (yours) meeting a formidable defense(ours). Defense wins games. Ball security will be the key to the outcome here. The Born Power Index gives SU a 3.1 point advantage, but I like to
think that having home field is worth 3, leaving this a tossup. Bring it.....we are
waiting......with a pretty good team....on  our home turf.......it's such a long time until Saturday......can hardly wait....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 12, 2007, 06:41:19 PM
    muledaddy.........others have came on this board and talked smack.......and it has always been good for the Gulls..........the Gulls play a little defense too ;)
we shall see come Saturday!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on November 14, 2007, 12:18:30 AM
It is time to get it started this week is a great week for the acfc Salisbury will handle Mu. no doubt about it they don't have the athletes to compete with a fast multi tooled salisbury team no turnovers i say Salisbury 42 Mulenburg 10
that being said lets move to the wesley game Hampton a little less of a chance Wesley offense will handle their defense and might even put up 45-50 points on them.  Final score Wesley 49- Hampton S. 13
You know what that means if all goes well we get another showdown at Wolverine Stadium and Wesley gets a shot to do something they have never done not only beat Salisbury once but twice in one season.  And how sweet would that be to claim route 13 in the playoffs as well as in the regular season. Go Wolverines
Wish i could be there for this weekend but cannot attend wesley wins i will be their to watch the battle for route 13
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 14, 2007, 10:33:23 AM
Wesleyfan:

I feel and hope both Salisbury and Wesley will win this weekend for the Route 13rematch.  Obviously, I hope the outcome is different with the Gulls winning if both teams meet for a second time this season.  It's always tougher to beat the same team twice  ;D .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 14, 2007, 07:32:00 PM
Wesleyfan,

I read your most recent post and can not imagine where and how the nation's
2nd leading defense, the Mules, are going to stand idly by and watch the Gulls
dance to the tune of a 32 point blowout.
It may happen, but I would sooner bet on a Tsunami hitting Ocean City and
washing inland over Salisbury..Have a nice day....please,  check your temperature
since the fever may have you in its grasp....42-10 aint happenin.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 14, 2007, 07:45:11 PM
Muledaddy

Here is my post from your board the other night.

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Don't sell the Salisbury D short. Before the Wesley game they were giving up only 71 yrds per game on the ground. And they did manage to run for 285 against a Wesley D that was only giving up 79 yrds per game on the ground.
I know the Mules are good , I follow a lot of football in Pa. but don't be shocked when the Gulls start moving the ball. The Mule will have to score some points  to win...
 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Frostie on November 15, 2007, 07:42:12 AM
Slightly different subject, for those of us whose teams are not in the playoff picture.  Rubin Stevesnson has been promoted to Associate Athletic Director at Frostburg.  I woudl assume that opens up the head football coach position.  Anybody know what's happening there, or what's going to happen to the ACFC next year?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on November 15, 2007, 01:48:09 PM
I can't speak to the Frostburg State scenario specifically, but there are lots of Athletic administrators (ADs, Associate ADs) who also continue their head coaching responsibilities in Division III.  So maybe Coach Stevenson stays at the head of the football program.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 15, 2007, 01:55:34 PM
Even at the small college level, it is hard to believe that they would give a struggling coach more work.  Some admin work is just fill a link in the chain, but I would want my program to be on solid ground before a reorganizing of staff responsiblity.  Just my two cents.  I hope they (Coach Stevenson or who ever) gets things turned around there.  It just makes the ACFC that much better!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on November 15, 2007, 07:19:56 PM
njlincolnlion & PA_wsleyfan,

Good luck to both of you guys. We have a game against Albright this Sat and we need to kick arse and take nubmers. Nice job gulls. PA, I took a lot of guff from the E8 boys saying that Wesley was not that good. I was hoping you guys were going to the East and I could get some redemption. ;) Anyway I have you guys going to the finals this year. I think it's about time you beat Whitewater. Good luck in the NCAA'S.

PS : I hope you guys from Wesley will come to Same Mills Field next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 15, 2007, 07:30:55 PM
   GO GULLS!.....and GO WESLEY too.....I can't imagine how electric a rematch would be this year between these 2 teams......I know, I know,  we have those pesky mules to get through first.....but ya gotta BELIEVE!!!
GO GET'EM GUYS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 15, 2007, 08:46:27 PM
rams1102, thanks for taking the heat from the e8 for us.  we have nothing to be afraid of, 2 semis in a row is enough to solidify our place on the national stage.  i will definately come up to sam mills stadium next year, my son will be a senior so i will not miss any game next year.  that is far away.  as for this year, i do not see how hampden sydney can stop our offense.   if they play as loose on offense as i have heard then they will have to play mistake free to stay in the game.  wesley is better and will show it this week.  no looking forward to salisbury, they have a tough game against the mules.  i would like to see wesley play uww again for a shot at the final.  i find all the talk about umhb interesting.  they have lost to 2 teams in the last 2 years, uww and wesley, yet for some reason they are supposedly favorite to win the south, why?  are they that much better than last year?  is wesley that much worse than last year?  lets see, the defense is just as good and is the offense so much worse?  the running game is much better, the o line is better, the receivers are ceratinly faster, replacing schatz with beavers at wideout.  hummm, i guess it comes down to the qb, schatz is not warrick, but is that a negative?  we shall get to see this weekend and hopefully for 4 more after that.  go luck gulls, represent the acfc.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 15, 2007, 10:51:26 PM
  Uncle Frank

I hope you have been doing your exercises because I think you my be doing a lot of  push-ups  this week ;D 

The only question is how many points will Wesley score :)
HSC can't play a we score , you score game with Wesley.
Wesley can pound it out on the ground as well as hit the home run with the pass.
Wesley is big and fast and plays defense against gadget offenses as well as any team.
Lastly Wesley has been here before and has a battle tested group.
If HSC comes out edgy Wesley could score 2 or 3 times before the Tigers realise what hit them..

  Salisbury proved against Wesley that they can move the ball against a good Defense. They run the option very well and have a good stable of backs. It will probably be a low scoring affair but once again Salisbury has an edge in the big game experience.

  Looks like the battle of Rt 13 part II

Good luck Gullls

  Go Wesley ..ONE MORE GAME
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 16, 2007, 09:44:09 AM
Should be nice cold "Smash-Mouth" football weather for tomorrow's game at "Mulenburg".

GO GULLS !!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 16, 2007, 04:58:05 PM
I'm psyched!!   :-*

Should be a good game for Wesley.  Just remember to bundle up! 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 17, 2007, 02:20:02 PM
Salisbury 21 Muhlenburg 21 with 7:30 minutes left.

Lets Go Gulls!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 17, 2007, 02:27:30 PM
Salisbury lost their second fumble on their own 20  :(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 17, 2007, 03:30:14 PM
Sorry about the loss Salisbury.  I'm pretty surprised about the 31-21 score.

Wesley had a good game outside the loads of turnovers.  I think they had 5 turnovers in the game, giving HS some good opportunities to score..... The defense really did a great job in jamming the run. 

Well, I guess we'll have an interesting game vs. the mules next week.  With W&J's loss to all people, NCW, Wesley now has home field advantage through the regionals. ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 17, 2007, 06:58:45 PM
SUBACKER and paWESLEYFAN,

AAs predicted, Muledaddy's team defense beat your Gulls ofense. I do believe I even went so far in my last post on this or one of the other relevant boards..to identify the outcome being dictated by 3 key turnovers....read the recap.

I am sure that Wesley will be a much more challenging  opponent But for now, it is time to relish the wll deserved victory over those disrespectful trash talkin Gulls and who the heck do they thin they are ..comong into our house and doing
pre game calisthenics 5 yds from our team as we are running  pre game warm up
plays...we will not be intimidated by Gulls or other similarly ill behaved teams...
hopefully, the next ACFC rep, Wesley, will have a little more class....Have a nice day
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 17, 2007, 07:26:06 PM
Quote from: muledaddy on November 17, 2007, 06:58:45 PM
hopefully, the next ACFC rep, Wesley, will have a little more class....Have a nice day

We do.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 17, 2007, 07:58:23 PM
muledaddy, not sure what went on at your field today, but i can assure you that coach drass will not allow any such antics.  wesley will do its normal warmup, ignoring the other team.  once the game starts, wesley will do what it has done all but 1 time this year, prove that they are better than their opponent.  congrats on your win against salisbury.  i will be looking forward to seeing your team in dover next week.  one thing i can gaurentee you, wesley will be ready to play.  i noticed against ursinus, the mules were afraid to kick or punt to the returner from ursinus.  what are you going to do with the ball on kickoffs against wesley, beavers returned his 4th kickoff for a td today.  i dont think you will score much so it will probably not matter anyway.  wesley is the better team and will show it this saturday.  enjoy thanksgiving because i dont think next saturday will be much fun for the mules.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 17, 2007, 08:27:21 PM
  Thank you to all the Salisbury players, coaches and fans for the last 4 years. You guys played hard all day and got back in this game and showed heart and determination, I'm proud of you all. There is no sense in getting into the whys, obviously when you fumble 5 times and lose 3 of them within sight of your own goal, it is going to be tough to win.  Salisbury had it's chances, but just didn't get it done today. Congratulations to Muhlenburg, you guys played a real good game.  Joe I love you more than you can know......Thanks, Dad
and GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 17, 2007, 09:37:33 PM
muledaddy

The Gulls did the same thing at Wesley before the game they come right up to the fifty and start yapping.  And if anyone was paying attention there was a few unpleasentries between the coaches prior to that game but that's old news...
Kind of suprised the refs didnt step in on it though this week. Wesley SHUT down HSU's trick plays all day. Smith is one heck of a receiver but Turner crushed him more than a few times today.  I gotta see the stats because Robinson and the D line were in the QB's face al day long.. The one hook and ladder they tried Smith got hit on the pitch and turned it over. And HSU had no running game what so ever
5 yrds net.....

Wesledad

My honey-doo list is posted LOL  but I got the papers drawn up I just need her John Hancock on the contract and I am there   ;D

Conrad

Do you think Muhlenberg will kick to Beavers ;D Those two holes he ran thru were small but he just runs faster than the defenders can think...

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on November 17, 2007, 09:56:40 PM
Congrats on step #1 to a title today. PAWesleyfan & wesleydad it was great seeing you guys and sharing a little pregame insight. It turned out about the way we invisioned. Good luck on step #2, we may see you back in "your house", same place, same time next week. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 17, 2007, 10:42:24 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 17, 2007, 09:37:33 PM


Do you think Muhlenberg will kick to Beavers ;D Those two holes he ran thru were small but he just runs faster than the defenders can think...


Not if they are smart. I  think Coach Favret had the the said it best in the the postgame:  "It is terrifying to have to kick it to him." He compared him to Devin Hester.

Congrats to the HSC Tigers on a great season. You guys are a class act!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 18, 2007, 03:44:51 AM
Wesleyfolk,

Why kick  to Devin Hester? Smart teams don't.

Enjoy the bird on Thursday but save room for dessert on Saturday...the Mules are serving free humble pie.....

If we don't score much, that's ok....if we score 1 point more than you do.......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on November 18, 2007, 04:55:16 AM
In the past three years wesley has had 9 playoff games going 7-2 the only wins posted for the ACFC.  Salisbury has gone 0-2 in the playoffs the past few years.  Why is it that they can't take the next step like wesley did.  They have good athletes like wesley, they work hard like wesley, and yet they haven't been able to get it done when it counts.  I do feel sorry for the seniors that had their 1st playoff win fumbled away in the fourth,  but you can't blame it on just the fumbles.  Wasn't at the game but any coach will tell you their are 6-7 plays that determine a game.  2 plays were fumbles what happened on the other opportunities.  I guess it would have been nice to see the gulls again, but i guess that opportunity was fumbled away literally.
Anyway on to the mules playing salisbury was nothing like what you will be facing at wesley.  The enviroment, the fans, the tailgating, a little smack talking but more pads talking(unlike salisbury), an intense coach, and a great field.  All of which awaits the mules.  Not to mention a nearly unstoppable offensive attack and a great hard hitting tough defense. 
Points to the game this weekend
1-You know that your in for a tough game against the wolverines when their is no smack talking, and the trainers get more work then the kicker.
2-If the crowd gets into it the players will feed the fire.(never been to a home wesley game where the crowd was silent and the wolverines won while it still wasn't a blowout, game of reference Montclair, crowd was in and out of it and they lost)
3-Beavers touches the ball at least 10-15 times, talking about x box worthy material it seems everytime this kid touches the ball the other coach is taking another advil.
4-you can't stop the wesley offense they have to many weapons
1.Beavers
2.Clarke
3.Schatz
4.Lanoette
5.Pennewell and his offensive line
6.Wesley's defense-  the offense has always fed off the defense, warning to the mules if you see a big hit, a turnover, or even the hit train on Kickoff make a bone jarring hit, you might want to head to the tailgating because you can bet the next few events won't be to pleasurable at least for the mules!
But i do have to say something if you can beat salisbury you have a good squad is wesley scared of the mules no.  Because come this saturday beating some A**(mules behind) is all that will be on Wesley's mind definantly not looking head past the mules, just looking forward to the a**(mules behind) kicking that will be happening this weekend
Final Score Wesley 42- Muhlenberg 17
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 18, 2007, 08:10:24 AM
pa wesley and llama, nice seeing you pawesley and meeting you llama.  yes, we did have the game figured out before it started.  it would have been a lot worse had wesley not turned the ball over, 4 fumbles and 1 int.  they will have to take care of the ball better next week against muhlenberg.  it seems that the mules take advantage of the other teams mistakes.  if wesley plays mistake free football, the mules have little to no shot at winning this game.

muledaddy, your support of your team is admirable, you have a good defense, not sure about how good your offense is since i only saw the ursinus game and they were so small.  wesley has shut down a strong running team, salisbury without the benefit of any turnovers from the gulls, and a strong passing team, hsc, about half of the passing yards came after the game was a route.  since the mules are neither as good running as salisbury or passing as hsc, what is left except to hope that your defense can contain the wesley offense or that they have turnovers, which they have done this year.  wesley 24 listed many reasons for concern on your part.  i am not sure if the score will be that lopsided but i am leaning in that direction, will make my prediction later.  as for humble pie, we are not having that at the tailgate before the game but feel free to join us.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 18, 2007, 08:35:02 AM
A couple things to add.  Remember, Salisbury was missing Sheehan which effectively took out their passing game that Wesley faced when the running game failed.   

Also, you forgot a couple more offensive weapons for Wesley.  Jackson, Koroma and Lanouette.  It's a veritable feast, really. 

Wesley gets sloppy when they lose focus, as was the case with HSU.  The game reminded me of the first games of the season where Wesley should of put away the opponent, but kept them in the game instead due to turn-overs.  5 turnovers is enough to lose the game for most teams.  The saving grace here is the Defense, where they simply stomped HSU's offense, short of a couple good plays, although HSU passed for over 300 yards.  The best defensive play of the game was the botched running hook and ladder that resulted in a HSU turnover.  What a hit!!!  :o

If Wesley keeps the focus and protects the ball, it's a long game for the Mules.

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 18, 2007, 08:44:19 AM
Actually, you can see that hook and ladder (although not as well as we saw it) here on the game highlights....

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=S591817275564

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 18, 2007, 08:52:34 AM
Congrats to the Wolverines! Unfortunately I was unable to be there in the box this weekend or next weekend.  I had to settle for showing my wife the second half of the St. John's - Redlands game in Collegeville, MN yesterday.  I would tell you what they have, but we wouldn't face them until the Stagg Bowl, so I won't waste your time.  Not that I don't hope that we get there.  Sad to hear that SU didn't uphold their end of the bargain, but hey, its the playoffs.  Congrats to the Seagulls on a great season.  Keep up the good work!

Looks like I'll go to the Bethel - UWEC game this weekend and see some more playoff football. Conrad, do you need anything from WI?? Or your wife??  I guess I have to do something when I'm not working the Wesley games.

It seems Wesley overmatched HS, but the turnovers are troubling.  We don't want to go back to the beginning of the season, do we?!  Great job by the D forcing all those turn overs too!  Keep your mindset firmly on these stubborn Mules.  It is one step at a time (as you all should know) in the playoffs. 

Damn, I wish I was there to see it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 18, 2007, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: dedragon on November 18, 2007, 08:52:34 AM

Conrad, do you need anything from WI?? Or your wife??  I guess I have to do something when I'm not working the Wesley games.


Cheese Curds!!  ;D

Would love to get to Collegeville someday for a game. I hear the atmosphere is unbelieveable. Did you get any Johnnie Bread?

My sister & brother in law live a couple miles from Bethel, so I've been by there a couple of times. Enjoy the game, we missed you here.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 18, 2007, 09:17:03 AM
Quote from: muledaddy on November 18, 2007, 03:44:51 AM
Wesleyfolk,

Why kick  to Devin Hester? Smart teams don't.

Enjoy the bird on Thursday but save room for dessert on Saturday...the Mules are serving free humble pie.....

If we don't score much, that's ok....if we score 1 point more than you do.......
I certainly didn't mean to sound cocky in my post (guess, i should have inserted a smiley face or wink). But the kid has six plays this season over over 70 yards including the four kickoff returns. Of course if the Mules want to kick him the ball that's ok with me. :)

Wesley will have its hands full this weekend with the Mules. I haven't seen or read much about Muhlenberg yet. Sounds like they have great defense and efficient offense. It could be a defensive struggle on Saturday, then it will come down to who can make big plays in the fourth quarter. Sounds like the Mules did that on yesterday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2007, 09:41:20 AM
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Quote from: Conrad on November 18, 2007, 09:17:03 AM
Quote from: muledaddy on November 18, 2007, 03:44:51 AM
Wesleyfolk,

Why kick  to Devin Hester? Smart teams don't.

Enjoy the bird on Thursday but save room for dessert on Saturday...the Mules are serving free humble pie.....

If we don't score much, that's ok....if we score 1 point more than you do.......
I certainly didn't mean to sound cocky in my post (guess, i should have inserted a smiley face or wink). But the kid has six plays this season over over 70 yards including the four kickoff returns. Of course if the Mules want to kick him the ball that's ok with me. :)

Wesley will have its hands full this weekend with the Mules. I haven't seen or read much about Muhlenberg yet. Sounds like they have great defense and efficient offense. It could be a defensive struggle on Saturday, then it will come down to who can make big plays in the fourth quarter. Sounds like the Mules did that on yesterday.

Doesn't really matter if they kick to Beavers or not seeing that either way Wesley starts around the fifty. And as HSU found out today pooch kicking in this stadium with the wind blowing goesn't work well. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 18, 2007, 12:10:01 PM
Conrad,

We did get our loaf of Johnnie bread!  We'll cut it soon enough this morning for breakfast (after church).  Clements Stadium is a nice place to watch a game.  The only problem is the self entitled Johnnie fans that love to yell at the refs even when they are up by 30.  Brought my wife into the St. John's Abbey which is just incredible.  I suggest that if anyone gets a chance to watch a game there to do it, but if you are the visiting team, watch out for those mysterious holding calls on a big gain, and of course their punt wall will be formed on their sidelines.

Will find some cheese curds for you!  You know... they won't be "fresh" by the time I get them to you though.  Bummer.  All the squeek will be gone!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 18, 2007, 02:53:00 PM
Dear Wesleyfan24,


I am assuming the number attached to your name does not relate to either your IQ
or delusional wish to be a supersleuth/save the world/ JACK BAUER type.

42-17 is your prediction...for a mule ass whoopin...please....please take your
temperature, acall your doctor, and reach for the advil now....
Your fellow ACFC folk predicted Gulls 42-13..........the fever got them too........

Reality check: Both teams beat Salisbury...bothteams want this game more than

the breath of life...both teams will be prepared....neither team will be intimidated.

..by the other....both have better defenses than most...strictly a matter of opinion, ours is superior.....ball security is all ....stats show who the better team in that area is,  without question......it should be one hell of a game...I wqill talk about the specifics when I am done my analysis of the season stats, articles, and wrapups for Wesley...I have lived them with the Mules... I look forwards totailgating a bit with the nice folks of Wesley, unlike the coarse gulls and their flock.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2007, 03:14:18 PM
Muledaddy

Speed kills!!!! You'll understand that better after next weekend ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 18, 2007, 05:04:19 PM
Deear PaWesleyfan,

Speed kills...wasn't the highly daunted Gull team supposed to have killer speed?

I recall one of my first trips to Dover (Monster Mile) when Jeff Gordon just ran around and sped around and led every lap.......until he ran out of gas at lap
398......speed certainly can kill...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2007, 05:15:23 PM
Quote from: muledaddy on November 18, 2007, 05:04:19 PM
Deear PaWesleyfan,

Speed kills...wasn't the highly daunted Gull team supposed to have killer speed?

I recall one of my first trips to Dover (Monster Mile) when Jeff Gordon just ran around and sped around and led every lap.......until he ran out of gas at lap
398......speed certainly can kill...

Jeff Gordon can't change cars during a race. Wesley can change players at will. This team doesn't QUIT..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2007, 05:51:27 PM
Quote from: muledaddy on November 18, 2007, 05:04:19 PM
Deear PaWesleyfan,

Speed kills...wasn't the highly daunted Gull team supposed to have killer speed?

I recall one of my first trips to Dover (Monster Mile) when Jeff Gordon just ran around and sped around and led every lap.......until he ran out of gas at lap
398......speed certainly can kill...
+1 for the NASCAR references.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 18, 2007, 06:59:45 PM
It's about time somebody gave him positive karma. :D :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2007, 07:24:22 PM
  Conrad

   I gotta keep up my bad boy image ;D ;D

Had a couple nice chats with the staff yesterday after the post game tailgate.
I also did some search and read up on HSU on the local VA. papers and the players and coach are all class acts. Smith is a great player, took some big hits and kept on ticking..

BUT the big Question is... What is illegal procedure ona kick off team!!!!! Never saw that called before. My only thought was they wanted to penalize them for kicking to Beavers ::) ;D :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 18, 2007, 07:29:13 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2007, 07:24:22 PM
  Conrad

   I gotta keep up my bad boy image ;D ;D

Had a couple nice chats with the staff yesterday after the post game tailgate.
I also did some search and read up on HSU on the local VA. papers and the players and coach are all class acts. Smith is a great player, took some big hits and kept on ticking..

BUT the big Question is... What is illegal procedure ona kick off team!!!!! Never saw that called before. My only thought was they wanted to penalize them for kicking to Beavers ::) ;D :D
The only thing I can think of was that they didn't have at least four guys on one side of the kicker. I don't know for sure, perhaps someone who was closer could enlighten us?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2007, 07:36:13 PM
Conrad
I guess we'll have to ask someone who watches the films? ;) Trying to talk a certain person into making the trip this week to Dover. I saw you got left alone in the booth for your post game stats...

I think we have to entice Uncle Frank to get the crowd going a little sooner this week :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 18, 2007, 07:40:26 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2007, 07:36:13 PM
Conrad
I guess we'll ask someone who watches the films? ;) Trying to talk a certain person into making the trip this week to Dover.

Deer season doesn't start in PA until Monday, so he has no excuse. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 19, 2007, 08:11:22 AM
Let's Go Wesley, keep "chopping" and win some for the ACFC.

GO WOLVERINES!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 19, 2007, 04:26:49 PM
Hi NJLINCOLNLION,

Welcome to Muletime.....today's lesson  is on the subject of the Wolverine,
largest land dwelling species ofthe weasel family. It has been known to give off an extremely unpleasant odor.
In the only reported attempt by a wolverine to attack a much larger animal ( a bear weighing 400-500 lbs), the wolverine unfortunately lost this fatal contest,
victim of a crushed skull. How much does a MULE  weigh???????????
The main characteristic  for which wolverines are known is gluttony.........I
guess they sometimes just bite off more than they can chew........

GO MULES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 19, 2007, 05:14:02 PM
Oh brother..... ::)

Let's settle it on the field, won't we?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 19, 2007, 05:18:41 PM
Muledaddy

Don't you have some stats to throw out there to at least give your team some credibility..
As you will see there is nothing Small or Slow about these Wolverines. They will wear your Mules down.     
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 19, 2007, 05:35:58 PM
      Muledad........give it a rest. I was undecided on who I was going to cheer for this weekend (I'll be at Wesley), but your gloating over the Salisbury win is very tiresome. Look, you won at home against SU, we got that. I was there, Salisbury played as poor a first half as they had all year, and the game was tied with about 5 minutes to go, it wasn't the ass whoopin that you seem to think it was, but whatever. I don't see Wesley gift wrapping a game for you by turning the ball over inside their own 30 yard line, like our option offense did. Wesley fans, as much as it hurts this SU fan to say it, you guys are going to the South Region (doesn't seem right to call it the W&J bracket) final again.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 19, 2007, 05:51:05 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on November 19, 2007, 05:35:58 PM
      Muledad........give it a rest. I was undecided on who I was going to cheer for this weekend (I'll be at Wesley), but your gloating over the Salisbury win is very tiresome. Look, you won at home against SU, we got that. I was there, Salisbury played as poor a first half as they had all year, and the game was tied with about 5 minutes to go, it wasn't the ass whoopin that you seem to think it was, but whatever. I don't see Wesley gift wrapping a game for you by turning the ball over inside their own 30 yard line, like our option offense did. Wesley fans, as much as it hurts this SU fan to say it, you guys are going to the South Region (doesn't seem right to call it the W&J bracket) final again.

Do you feel that SU would of done better if they had Sheahin (sp) available to play?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 19, 2007, 05:54:34 PM
I think they would've done better, though Curley hit some big plays through the air.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 19, 2007, 06:01:42 PM
Dear SU and Pat,

I thought that the SU quarterback did a great job throwing the ball and that was largely resposible for getting them back in the game.Other than the 54 yard
TD jaunt, the running game was effectively contained.The passing game was not.
Frankly, we gameplanned for less than half the number of passes actually thrown, and thrown well, by Curley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 19, 2007, 06:33:35 PM
  Ski, as Pat stated, Shehin could have helped, but it wasn't a failure on any one player that led to our loss. I think that Bobby definitely helps SU if we get behind early in a game, like Saturday. We played ourselves into that loss, just like our last time in the playoffs, with turning the ball over and giving the other team's offense a very short field to work with. Ronnie and all the guys played hard and that's all you can ask of any player.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 19, 2007, 06:43:52 PM
mule, you make me laugh.  up 21 - 6, team ties it at 21, fumbles twice to give you the game and you are gloating.  at least you could give credit to the comeback of the gulls.  chirp all you want, what do you game plan for against wesley, 470 or so yards a game split almost evenly between pass and run.  stack against the run and you have no shot, look at the yards you gave up to salisbury through the air and they dont even throw the ball.  drop to shut down the pass and pennewell will run for 100 + again.  this will be the most complete offense you have seen all year, not to mention special teams, which if the mules do what they did against ursinus, wesley will have the ball near midfield to start a drive.  oh, thats right, i dont think you will kickoff more than twice anyway, once to start a half and one other time after you score.  if you get 14, it will not be nearly enough.  enjoy the trip to dover and you are still invited to stop by for the tailgate before and after the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 19, 2007, 07:42:34 PM
Where Sheahin would've made the most difference, in my mind, is that I expect he would've been in the game on that drive where Curley pitched it away for the second consecutive fumble.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 19, 2007, 07:55:15 PM
Wesleydad,

Speaking of getting real, let's get honest.....Wesley -NCW: R-153 p-179=332;
Wesley-DVC r-85 p-261=346: Wesley -Salisbury r-247 p-94=341.
Now, these are your real figures against real opponents......not quite 547yds per game...Bring it on......I look forward to the pleasure of tailgating a bit before the boys sort it all out for us on Sat....if we stop you, we will win......I will take the yardage given up in any of the 3 games above , if I have to, but I have to see you do it for me to believe it........and we will get you if we are anywhere in the ballpark......check out our yearlong stats.....against some pretty good opponents....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 19, 2007, 08:06:24 PM
Montclair counts as a real opponent: 247 rushing, 204 passing: 451 total.
Widener counts as a real opponent: 273 rushing, 233 passing, 506 total.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 19, 2007, 08:23:34 PM
mule, you are thick.  the games you site, less the salisbury game, dropped passes, the yardage was limited due to turnovers, not the other teams defense.  if wesley turns the ball over they will be in trouble, yet in each of the games you mentioned, they still won.  thanks pat for the other games mentioned.  with those 5 games listed, they are no slouches.  muhlenberg has beaten ucnj, hardly an offensive power and salisbury, maybe dickinson also for a higher level opponent.  you can certainly not compare the competition.  wesley has been there, played some top level teams and made it to the semis 2 straight years with many of the present players.  i dont have to get real, they have been there and done this already.  i am also not sure if you have faced any defense that has played the way wesley's had most of the year.  according to the d3 guys, it seems muhlenberg changed things up on salisbury early, but once salisbury adjusted the mules were shut down and again if not for the gifts may be home watching this week.  wesley is bigger than salisbury, as fast if not faster on both sides of the ball and tested, both this year and in the past.  i look forward to the game, but dont go crazy with your enthusiasm for your team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 19, 2007, 08:52:27 PM
Wesleydad,

please note LambPoll today...Mules/St John Fisher tied for 1, Wesley 3.....the times area changing
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 19, 2007, 08:55:35 PM
Pat,I just reviewed Montclair...very interesting loss  for Wolverines, despite high yardage...double that of the winner
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 19, 2007, 08:56:14 PM
I didn't have to change my No. 1 vote in Lambert when W&J lost. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 19, 2007, 08:57:41 PM
muledaddy
Wesley never gets a fair shake in the eastern polls. And polls don't win games ;D
Fact three years ago, Wesley 8-2 doesn't get a ecac bid.... Which may have lit a fire under them come to think of it!!!!!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 19, 2007, 09:01:59 PM
  Pat, you're correct Bobby would have been in on that drive no doubt..... and maybe the outcome is different, maybe not-obviously it would have been nice to have that "option" too. Thanks to you and Keith for going to Salisbury vs. Muhlenburg. It was my first time going to that campus and I really liked their facility. A great D3 facility with a cozy feel- away stands could be improved, but overall we had a good time (barring the outcome!).  I looked for you guys just to say thanks in person, but I got side-tracked. I talked to a few of their O-linemen after the game and they were class guys, they also remarked that the SU defense was the best they had faced this season as well. It makes sense-we're in the playoffs and all these teams are good. I just think Wesley is going to be very tough at home, and I don't see anyone beating them there. I think Beavers could return kicks at the next level-he is that good. Wesley is my pick to come out of this region again.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 19, 2007, 09:04:20 PM
mule, what does that mean.  i dont pay attention to that poll, didnt even know it existed or was relavent to this discussion.  i follow d3 poll and wesley started 6, finished 6, much more telling than the east poll.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 19, 2007, 09:09:24 PM
Is this fun or what ;D

wesleydad
the lambert trophy is given to the the  top eastern team in each division. It used to be tied to the ecac i believe! Pat would know seeing he is a voting member Wesley may have even won it last year i'll have to look it up
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 19, 2007, 09:19:30 PM
pawesley, yes it is fun, just trying to keep it real with accurate info.  subacker has seen both teams play against salisbury, so i have to take his word for info.  i agree, if beavers cant play at next level with that speed or at least get a chance it would be a shame.  have you started working on the honeydo list for the week?  it is early, but will go quick with the holiday.  before i forget, wishing you and your dad, llama, and the other stone station guys a happy thanksgiving. :D  and even you mule ::)  early weather forecast, partly cloudy in the 40's, no need to mention a wind because it is always at least breezy in dover.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 19, 2007, 09:49:01 PM
wesleydad
so far so good on the list.. planing on making it down for sure...
Llama and the Stone Station may be in town again too.
Where else can you see fans from other teams following the action like that???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 19, 2007, 10:15:41 PM
It still is tied to the ECAC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on November 19, 2007, 10:53:03 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 19, 2007, 09:49:01 PM
wesleydad
so far so good on the list.. planing on making it down for sure...
Llama and the Stone Station may be in town again too.
Where else can you see fans from other teams following the action like that???


The traveling BC fans do plan to be back on Saturday. Based of wesleydad's forecast, I might have to bring my chili recipe for this weekend!  ;)

We are addicted to D3football and orange shorts. What can I say?

Happy Thanksgiving as well wesleydad, PAWesleyfan and all the other Wesley faithful.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on November 19, 2007, 11:27:45 PM
Llama hero

the boy (u met) and i will b taveling in va about dec 13-14 and 15... infact... it's odd.... i scheduled some work in the valley...and will sleep (Lord willing) in salem on dec 14... is anything happening about that time ???

r yall gonna cook out ??

if any of the above r correct... let me no what to bring in the way of food...if u don't mind another llama owner/ alabama redneck tailgaiting with yall ;D

he is out of school and was gonna ride along

be good... keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 19, 2007, 11:31:23 PM
Good Alabama pork barbecue from some wild Alabama hogs! :)

AF4, congratulations on the move to the SLIAC!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on November 19, 2007, 11:43:08 PM
Quote from: AF4 on November 19, 2007, 11:27:45 PM
Llama hero

the boy (u met) and i will b taveling in va about dec 13-14 and 15... infact... it's odd.... i scheduled some work in the valley...and will sleep (Lord willing) in salem on dec 14... is anything happening about that time ???

r yall gonna cook out ??

if any of the above r correct... let me no what to bring in the way of food...if u don't mind another llama owner/ alabama redneck tailgaiting with yall ;D

he is out of school and was gonna ride along

be good... keep the faith

You have some good timing to be in VA! We will be in Salem Friday eve and will start tailgating @ 9am in the Salem parkinglot prior to the Stagg Bowl on Dec. 15th. All rednecks are honored guests where I come from. ;) No need to bring food, just your appetite for some D3 championship football. Last year we fed about 150 people prior to the big game. We will be cooking VA yardbird and have some of that bbq that you speak of, see you there! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on November 20, 2007, 04:33:49 AM
Last year Wesley defeated Dickinson and they were really sound on defense as well and they lost 49-21.  Even though the CC is loaded with good players how do you expect to beat a team that defeated Dickinson, Carnegie-Mellon, UMHB last year.  And defeated Ferrum, UMHB, and Bridgewater(VA) two years ago. And defeated HSU this year.  You are averaging 30.4 a game on offense and only giving up 7.5 a game on defense.  Gettysburg gave up 29.2 a game and you only scored 14 points barely gaining a win against a team that ended up 6-5.  Johns Hopkins gave up 22.4 a game this year and was scoring 21.2 a game yet you only beat a 4-6 team by a score of 28-21.  Juniata isn't worth talking about especially when you only win one game Sorry! Same thing about McDaniel!  I will say Franklin and Marshall looks like a good win 31-0 on a team that ended up giving up 25.4 and scoring 20.8 but on second thought I think they were just a sub par team.  Especially when they go 4-6.  Dickinson was a good game against a good team.  Although you did give up 24 against a team that was averaging 29.5 take your 7.5 and stuff it when it comes to playing a good not great offensive team.  And you only scored 29 on a team that was giving up 21.5 at seasons end so how good is your offense exactly.  Especially when McDaniel, Hobart, and Ursinus even scored 30+.  And no 29 is not 30.  And your strength of schedule who have you played lets take a look.
College of NJ good win against a 8-2 team.  Union 5-4, Gettysburg 6-5, Juniata 1-9, McDaniel 1-9, Franklin and Marshall 4-6, Dickinson 9-2, Ursinus 7-3, Moravian, 6-4, and Salisbury 9-2 an opponent win loss of 56-46. Wesley on the other hand has faced much tougher competition.  NC Wesleyan 9-2 and defeated #1 W&J, Del Val 5-5, Widener 8-3 Made the playoffs, Montclair State 8-3 who won a ECAC bowl game, Huntingdon 5-5, Frostburg 2-7, N News 4-6, Brockport 5-5, Salisbury 9-2, Morrisville 3-7, and HSU 8-3.  A total record of 66-48. Your opponents winning percentage is .558 where as Wesley's is .716 and your opponents-opponents winning percentage is .520 where as Wesley's is .547.  Wesley's strength of schedule which is only relevant to D3football.com's Website has Wesley at Number 2 and Muhlenburg at 35.  Wesley is averaging 37.4 good luck and only giving up 16.4.  The mules are giving up 7.5 against a weaker schedule and scoring 30.4 and once again good luck getting to 30 in this game.  Whether you or not you are faster or stronger than Wesley, or even smarter than Wesley, Point of Reference the Carnegie-Mellon and Dickinson game last year.  There is one thing that you cannot match.  And that is playoff experience in the past 3 years Wesley has played 9 playoff games the mules must have been in the stable because they had a combined record of 8-12 the past two seasons then this break out year.  But my point is come this time of year injuries, and the mental toll effects players.  Wesley with a lot of starters and even their backups have a lot of playoff experience.  And Muhlenburg hasn't played since 2002 in the playoffs and last time I checked you can't play 6 years in college.  Good luck to the mules your going to need it Wolverines+ Playoffs+ Home Field+ tailgating= advil for muledaddy, Mike Donnelly, and the rest of the mules.  Tell you what on my way to the game I will stop at Sam's Club pick you up some Advil and you can share with everyone especially the posters because I can't shut up don't worry I am done.  For NOW!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 20, 2007, 10:47:19 AM
Wesleyfan24,

I must give credit where credit is due..an outstanding post by you at 4:30 am, while we Mule fans were sleeping comfortably with pleasant dreams of the upcoming game. Seriously, you did some homework and I will endeavor to address the issues at the earliest possible opportunity, consistent with saving peoples lives, fortunes and freedom on a daily basis, which is the way Muledaddy has to put bread on the table.
Everyday, in every courtroom, its a battle to the finish................and this time  proven warrior of 35 yrs  experience sees something very special in
the Mules...the same quality Stallone showed in Rocky...Saturday can't come soon enough
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 20, 2007, 11:48:59 AM
Muledaddy,

There will be an ambulance on the West side of Scott D. Miller Stadium in case your legs need to be stretched.  Apparently your mouth does not need the same.  Good luck to your team and good luck to the Wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on November 20, 2007, 04:11:09 PM
LLama Hero
me and the boy will b honored to break bird and hog (?) with u on the 14th... thanks

Ralph
the boy tells me that the team and coaches r excited to get into a conference
... they wanted to get into the scac (i'm told) and would have been competitive as they were 9-3 against scsc teams in the 5 yrs of thier football existance at Huntingdon (2003 -  0-1; 2004 - 1-1; 2005 4-1; 2006 4-1; and did not play any scacs in 2007 ???)
... i believe we will b very competitive in the SLIAC

but...

that is only secondary importance to the greater discussion raging here between mule daddy and the wesley folks........... i got no dawg in that but.......... we lost to osh-kosh, adrian (OT), murrville (OT), hamden-sydney (SP-?), and WESLEY...and WESLEY was ...well.... great.....fast....big...wellcoached...they just beat us...end of story

Wesley is ...uh... i hate to say this...but the ramma jamma yella hamma. (with respect to the bammers)....

those intra specie crossed equids better bring thier A game and lunch or they will have a difficult time grazing post game...as Wesley will hit u square in the teeth

keep the faith

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2007, 04:37:48 PM
Say it loud!
Say it proud!

Quote from: AF4 on November 20, 2007, 04:11:09 PM
LLama Hero

Those intra-specie-crossed equids better bring their "A" game and lunch or they will have a difficult time grazing post game...as Wesley will hit you square in the teeth.



Spoken like a veteranarian!
:D  +1!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on November 20, 2007, 05:07:46 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2007, 04:37:48 PM
Say it loud!
Say it proud!

Quote from: AF4 on November 20, 2007, 04:11:09 PM
LLama Hero

Those intra-specie-crossed equids better bring their "A" game and lunch or they will have a difficult time grazing post game...as Wesley will hit you square in the teeth.



Spoken like a veteranarian!
:D  +1!

As opposed to a vegetarian!   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 20, 2007, 06:56:52 PM
Gentlemen,

Please be advised that the unofficial spokesperson for the intra-specie-crossed equids has been nominated, and graciously accepts the post.

The "A" game is a given if we Mules are to prevail. We just keep workin, and workin, and workin, stubborn silly beasts that we are...we just don't know (or won't accept) that our work is ever done.....so we just keep workin, and workin...and Saturday...we will just keep workin....and workin.
..until someone says there isn't any more time on the clock and the last whistle has blown...then, and only then, will we know how we have worked
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on November 21, 2007, 03:05:36 PM
Llama Hero my friend... Lord willing december 15.. i will prove to u i am not a vegitarian..... i will eat as much hog and Va yard bird as u put in front of me

Ralph... r u gonna b in salem ? i would b honored to introduce u to the boy

Ralph, LamaGuy (hero), Hawks88, all the wesley folks, mule daddy, and everyone on this and the other boards... have a very Blessed Thanksgiving

keep the faith and b safe
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 21, 2007, 05:08:27 PM
A4,

Thank you. God Bless, Good Luck, and a great Thanksgiving to you, your loved ones, and all the wonderful people blessed with the opportunity and interest in D3 football that I have encountered. Nothing is purer than the love of the game.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2007, 06:27:19 PM
af4, same to you and all the others who frequent this board.  god bless and be safe, see all those who plan on being in the house in dover on saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2007, 07:54:37 PM
Llama mentioned chili!!! wonder if that is Turkey chili ;D

To all friends and foes Happy Thanksgiving.
Muledaddy
I'll save my final thoughts for the game until Friday. One thing though for sure dress warm for the game.. Low 40's and the wind will be in your bleachers face the whole game..OH and if sunny wear dark glasses. When it's calm in Dover  the wind is blowing ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 21, 2007, 11:14:07 PM
AF4, thanks and you and yours have a blessed Thanksgiving too. If you're out travelling around the state, like I will be for the next two days, be safe and keep that cruise control close to the speed limit. Those troopers are out in full force this week.


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2007, 09:40:48 AM
A good day of Turkey for all of you fans out there.  Be safe!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on November 22, 2007, 12:24:11 PM
AF4,

      Looking forward to seeing the boy again! He was the politest D3 football player with a special long snapping ability that I know.  ;) Have a safe and Happy Southern Thanksgiving as well.

PAwesleyfan & Wesleydad,

      Thanks, you and yours have a great Thanksgiving as well. I hope to be in your backyard @ 9:30am Saturday. If there is a spot beside you we'll take it. It worked well last weekend! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2007, 07:25:03 PM
llama, we should be there by about 915, that is the goal.  i will try to save you a spot, should not be a problem that early.  less than 41 hours till kickoff ;D.  see everyone at the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 23, 2007, 09:13:17 AM
Wesleydad,

Its Friday morning, 27 hrs from kickoff. I just went out for coffee and a newspaper, wearing my official MULES headgear....No fewere than 6 strangers came up, offering encouraging words...."Now, you tell those MULES  TO GO DOWN THERE AND KICK SOME ASSES....they will understand that"

"11-0.....keep it going.....all the way....."

"I read about those MULES....those who undersestimate them are FOOLS"(sounds like Mr. T)

I could not make up the above unsolicited comments, but if I did, I would echo them.

The little Mules had a nice Turkeyday dinner, with family and friends, rested, ate some more, and fell asleep, without a care in the world. Can the same be said for the big, bad, Wolverines?

Ok...here it is...ready or not...Mules 30...Wolverines 24...upset of the day...
(the previous pick is made by the same man who easily picked NCW over W and J--Centenniel Board post 966, on 11/12)  Ps...I liked NCW's game against you early on...a 3 pt squeaker
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 23, 2007, 11:06:47 AM
mule, glad you took yesterday off.  i see that the turkey and rest didnt curb your enthusiasm for your squad.  30 - 24 huh.  check out wesley's schedule, only 1 team scored 31 on them all year, and it was a much more vaunted offense then the mules have, uncw, in the first game of the year.  the 27 given up to morrisville was more to taking the other team lightly than to a high powered offense, only 7 in the last 2.5 quarters.  unless the mules score on d or special teams, they will not get to 30.  just last week they only had 21 late in the game against salisbury, who does not have as good a d as wesley.  the other thing i notice is that you have wesley scoring 24 against your top notch d, only 8 pts per game.  starting to realize that the wesley offense is not like anything the mules have played this year.  not to mention the return game, beavers with 4 kickoff returns and newman with a punt return and 1 called back last week.  this could be a good game, if wesley does not turn the ball over, they have done that this year and it kept teams in games and cost them their only lose.  with respect to your d, wesley 31 - 14.  see you on saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 23, 2007, 04:20:45 PM
Is it Saturday yet??

Wesley 35---- Muhlenberg 10

Sorry muhld!!!! I think somewhere during the first half you may see what others have told you about  that little difference between certian DIV III teams.. I saw it when I went to some of the Empire 8 and Liberty games years ago.
Have not seen that at all in the Centennial.

Good luck to you and your muhls.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 23, 2007, 04:29:58 PM
Dear Wesleydad,

Hope to have the pleasure of seeing you in the am...better for both that we meet before the contest, rather than after...for the love of the game, these kids are all winners,America's finest youth...student-athletes...what a beautiful thing....may God Bless
you, yours, and all who step onto the field of honor on Saturday at noon...the moment of truth......."the truth shall set us free"

Mules have landed, are grazing and the Muleparents prayergroup is back at work,
praying for a victory
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2007, 05:33:11 PM
I think it will be Wesley 38-17 over the Mules....

See you guys there! 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2007, 09:32:32 PM
 Muhlenberg @ Wesley

The Mules haven't played a team as fast,as big or as balanced as Welsey all year.
The Mules have a better than average D that probably will slow down Wesley for a short time. BUT I have a feeling that Coach Knapp will have more than a few plays that will confuse the Mules D. Remember 2006 UMHB had a great D and Wesley used their strength against them. ;D Play action and throw underneath.... Not only does Wesley pound you they can flat out run. Also Wesley plays has a better than average D and the Mules will have a lot of trouble moving the ball. Coach Drass will use almost everyone on his 52 man roster and keeps the players fresh..

Wesley wins and goes to the south final one more time
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 23, 2007, 10:04:12 PM
teamski, make sure you stop by and say hi.  if all goes as planned stone station and the wesleydad group will be next to each other in the tailgate area. 

muledad, before or after the game will not make a difference to me, stop by and say hi.  as i said on another post, the fun has been all the great people i have met during my sons last 3 years playing for wesley.

only 14 more hours. :( :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2007, 10:38:29 PM
wesleydad

Should be rolling in about the same time as last week. Getting my WARM clothes together.  8)

   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on November 23, 2007, 11:21:02 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 23, 2007, 10:04:12 PM
teamski, make sure you stop by and say hi.  if all goes as planned stone station and the wesleydad group will be next to each other in the tailgate area.   

Everything is in order from our end. Will be pulling out of Llamaville at 5:45 am for a 9:30am arrival in Dover. Looking forward to another great week of D3 tailgating and Playoff football! Wesleydad and PAwesleyfan, I've had a pot of chili slowcooking since 9pm. Hope you can work that into your pregame plans.  ;) Travel safe and we will see you guys in the am.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 24, 2007, 02:59:23 PM
Congrats to Wesley and the team victory over Muhlenberg. Can not wait to read the stats.
Just think one less muhlenburg fan posting for now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 24, 2007, 02:59:52 PM
Congrats to the Wolverines.  Third straight South Region Championship game!! 

Also, congrats to the Mules on a great season.  You guys were stubborn, just not enough.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2007, 03:21:24 PM
I just got back from the game.  The Mules really put up a tough fight in the 1st half, leading it 7-0 for just about all of it.  Two Wesley turnovers at mid-field didn't help.  But, once again, the defence put up one hell of a stance.  Twice, the Mules couldn't score in the redzone.  This included a blocked field goal.

Wesley opened it right up in the second half with quite a few big plays. including a 80+ yard sweep by Jackson.  Wesley kept it paced at a 2 touchdown spread for just about the rest of the game.  A pair of 2nd half touchdowns by the Mules didn't sway the game a bit.  I wasn't too far off my 35-17 estimate.  The final score, 38-21.....

Now to get the cold out of my cheeks!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on November 24, 2007, 03:35:41 PM
congrats to the mules for a great season

like i said.... Wesley is awesome

keep it going & keep the faith

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on November 24, 2007, 04:38:23 PM
seems like its become a tradition to play the Cru in the playoff, how cute lol. Well keep the tradition alive and send them home for good, LET'S GO TO WORK. GREAT JOB TODAY BOYS, WE DA BEST
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 24, 2007, 06:37:30 PM
Wesleydad,

Congratulations on a well deserved victory. The Mules played well at the atart, but as soon as they failed to score in first half on 2 separate red zone opportunities,
one resulting in a Wolverine touchdown just before the half, I sensed there could be
trouble.

When the 2nd half started, I turned and said to my better half, this drive and the next will tell the story and..presto Jackson runs away with the game..I was waiting for
Beavers to have his moment, and he did.  Sorry I got there late or I would have been over to tailgate with you pre game....GO WOLVERINES
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 24, 2007, 07:14:06 PM
mule, sorry you got there late, you would have had a good time before the game.  muhlenberg had their chance to capitalize on some wesley mistakes and did not, end of game.  i told you how good the offense was and they did not disappoint.  the 2 turnovers stopped 2 early drives.  the mules played tough and should be commended for their effort.  the wesley defense was fantastic for most of the game, 2 late scores make it look closer than it was.  on to the region finals again.  i guess wesley may have to think about showing up next week because the great umhb cru is coming to dover.  they are really scary by all accounts.  i seem to remember hearing that last year and the year before that, what were the results, 2 wesley victories.  if umhb can not throw the ball they will have trouble against the wesley defense.  they are strong against the run, so wesley will have to protect the qb and the football, if they do they will win again.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2007, 08:57:48 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 24, 2007, 07:14:06 PMif umhb can not throw the ball they will have trouble against the wesley defense.  they are strong against the run, so wesley will have to protect the qb and the football, if they do they will win again.

UMHB's offense looks to be based on it's run.  Wesley will have to zone in on it to shut it down.  I thought it was interesting that Muhlenberg's offense was also based on the run, but they were passing quite a bit in the first half.  It almost seemed that they did this on purpose to disrupt the defense, which nearly worked.

Wesley will have to work on it's passing game for next week.  It looks like that UMHB's achilles heel is the secondary.  Wesley will really, really have to protect the ball or it will be a long game.  Three turnovers in the game today could of really turned the game around if the defense hadn't clamped down.

Sorry I missed the tailgating.  I got there about 11:45......

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2007, 09:44:07 PM
Good game for the Wolverines today.  ;D

wesleydad things are looking up for a third trip next week...  :D And I haven't even scored any points. ;D
Do me a favor and tell your son good luck for me. We all feel the same here about our service personel. 'nough said   :)

no LLama siting yet? Great chili and  nice to meet yet another member of the station.

OilCan  Thank you again. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2007, 09:58:04 PM
k-mack

man we missed ya today... I understand why tho ;D Conread filled me in. :D

maybe next week?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 25, 2007, 08:57:50 AM
pawesleyfan,  thanks for the kind words for my son, i will pass them on to him.  enjoyed the tailgating again, the chili was good and helped with the morning chill.  i am glad to hear that you will likely be there again next week, it should be a good game.

teamski, you and i agree, protect the ball and complete the open passes and wesley has a really good chance of winning.  sorry, you and muledady arrived late, would have been nice to meet you both.  we, the schatz and bell clans, will be there bright and early next week again and llama assured us that they will also be there early, cooking up something good again.  three straight years to the south region finals, boy, this is fun :D and another home game.  to be greedy, i will be pulling for wabash to get another one if we beat umhb.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on November 25, 2007, 10:50:30 AM
Video Highlights of Wesley/Muhlenberg

http://wdel.com/video?v=WesleyMules.wmv

NOTE:  Per NCAA Regulations, the highlights are only available until Monday at 6pm.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 25, 2007, 10:56:29 AM
wdelsean, thanks and a special shout out to the guys from wdel for their coverage of the wesley football team.  i have been told, i dont listen at the game because it would be distracting, that the broadcasts are very good and fair towards wesley.  the announcers seem to know the game and arent afraid to call it like they see it.  if all goes as planned, you will have 3 more games to do. :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 25, 2007, 11:09:00 AM
Viewers should know that this video only works in IE and not in Firefox.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on November 25, 2007, 11:32:25 AM
wesleydad, thanks for the kind words.  We do our best to put out a good and fair (both teams) product each week.  I know my fellow announcers and myself (I do sidelines, the video stories, and occasionally shooting) have enjoyed the last 2 years of covering the team full-time.

Pat, our player is limited, so thanks for the advisory.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: drinkxs.com on November 25, 2007, 06:20:32 PM
coming up early on friday, can anyone recommend something to do or see in dover? specialty food?

is the stadium on campus?

thanks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 25, 2007, 06:32:48 PM
The stadium is a few blocks off campus. I always remember it as being at the corner of Queen and Mary -- it's not precisely at that corner but if you get to that intersection you'll see the stadium easily.

Can't speak to local food, per se. But Delaware has no sales tax, so if you have big-ticket items to buy for the holidays, you could save a few bucks buying it in DE.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2007, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: drinkxs.com on November 25, 2007, 06:20:32 PM
coming up early on friday, can anyone recommend something to do or see in dover? specialty food?

is the stadium on campus?

thanks

drinx

Conrad will probably post something here later in the week with hot spots.
  There are numerous eating establishments along rt 13.(dupont hwy)   It is rather easy to find the stadium from rt.13. Dover Downs has a slot casino. NO harness racing on Fridays. The down town government area is rather nice to look at but I am not sure what there is tour wise.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2007, 07:54:42 PM
NNAsid

You're gonna have to take a sick day and travel to Dover nest week. Should be a good one again..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: drinkxs.com on November 25, 2007, 09:19:43 PM
Thanks PA_Wesley Fan and Pat
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Oil Can on November 26, 2007, 07:52:23 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2007, 09:44:07 PM

...OilCan  Thank you again. ;)

PA_wesleyfan,

You're welcome, however, I was just perpetuating a courtesy shown to our travelling crew by some kind Wesley folks.  You fellas have been very gracious hosts!

Looking forward to another South Region final in Dover this weekend.  With no dog in the hunt, I'm hoping for an exciting, high scoring, back and forth game that comes down to someone having to score or make a stop in the endzone opposite the score board (that's been our vantage point for watching) and may the best team win.

Safe travels to everyone
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 26, 2007, 08:41:40 PM
Good Luck to Wesley and UMHB.

I think travel for UMHB may be a factor in this game. The weather may be chilly, but I do not think that will be a factor.

Look to be a very good game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: drinkxs.com on November 26, 2007, 09:03:03 PM
old ends,

chilly weather would be a major improvement over the weather we had in texas on saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 26, 2007, 09:19:06 PM
Quote from: old ends on November 26, 2007, 08:41:40 PM
Good Luck to Wesley and UMHB.

I think travel for UMHB may be a factor in this game. The weather may be chilly, but I do not think that will be a factor.

Look to be a very good game
Old ends, UMHB has been used to long travel.

2004 -- four playoff games on the road to Stagg, plus 400+ mile bus trips to Miss College and Sul Ross St in the regular season.
2005 -- flight to Willamette and 7-hour bus trip to Louisiana College.
2006 -- flight to CNU and 400+ mile bus trip to Sul Ross State back to back.
2007 -- 400+ mile bus trip to Miss Coll and then flight to UW-W.  Most UMHB fans would dismiss travel as a problem in the UWW game.

I think that the ASC and the SCAC teams are accustomed to long trips and may not be affected as much as teams in other parts of the country. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 26, 2007, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2007, 07:54:42 PM
NNAsid

You're gonna have to take a sick day and travel to Dover nest week. Should be a good one again..



If it wasnt for the fact of possibly being in Maine or Vermont with hoops...that may happen
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 27, 2007, 08:22:29 AM
Quote from: drinkxs.com on November 26, 2007, 09:03:03 PM
old ends,

chilly weather would be a major improvement over the weather we had in texas on saturday.

The weather is looking good so far for Saturday according to this morning's forecast: low 40's and sunny.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 27, 2007, 04:48:13 PM
Understand about the Texas travel. Brother lives in Odessa took the wife and I on a 500 mile to dinner. To him that was just around the corner.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 27, 2007, 05:19:55 PM
Conrad

Can you give some advise to some of the UMHB fans on where to go for entertainment in the Dover area fro Friday nite? There are a few asking!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on November 27, 2007, 08:51:17 PM
Quote from: old ends on November 27, 2007, 04:48:13 PM
Understand about the Texas travel. Brother lives in Odessa took the wife and I on a 500 mile to dinner. To him that was just around the corner.
I learned to drive in Texas but didn't appreciate distance until I moved to Utah.  I was used to a 2 or 3 hr drive being in state, but when I had to drive 100 miles to find a Wal-mart, I stopped complaining about driving far.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bman on November 27, 2007, 11:35:17 PM
I don't know alot about Dover, but I did notice they have a Jakes Burgers there now...

While not a sit down dinner, it's well worth the stop for a great burger at lunchtime...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 28, 2007, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: bman on November 27, 2007, 11:35:17 PM
I don't know alot about Dover, but I did notice they have a Jakes Burgers there now...

While not a sit down dinner, it's well worth the stop for a great burger at lunchtime...
Jake's Burgers is a favorite in Dallas, too.  Jake is the nephew of the creator of a nother burger joint called Keller's, and old-fashioned 50's drive-in.

(Jakes' original location was a small building in a "wet" precinct in Dallas so you could get a burger and a beer.)

You know it is a great place to eat, because you will see a 2007 Mercedes 560 parked next to a beat-up 1961 F-10 pickup.  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 28, 2007, 11:45:37 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 27, 2007, 05:19:55 PM
Conrad

Can you give some advise to some of the UMHB fans on where to go for entertainment in the Dover area fro Friday nite? There are a few asking!

There's always the slots at Dover Downs Has five-star restaurant called Michele's (pricey, but good, also has an awesome breakfast buffet, need reservations).

Young person nightspot, probably Bubba's out near the track. It has dancing and pool & games in the back. (There are probably a lot of Bubba's in Texas, right  Ralph.  :))

There are more young professional establishments down near the capital off of State State Street: Loockerman Exchange, Smithers.

You can find just about any chain restaurant on route 13. Uno, Applebees, TGIFriday, etc.

Movies are at the Dover Mall across from Delaware State on 13.

No sales tax, so save on x-mas shopping. I know KMack's wife was shopping last weekend while he and Pat covered the game.

If you really have time and want to shop, their are outlets down route one in Rehobeth about 45-50 minutes south. The best burger joint down there is Five Guys Burgers.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 29, 2007, 01:10:31 PM
A night stroll around Olde Dover would be another inexpensive thing to do.  Go to the Dover Green at the heart of dover and check out the old 1700-1800's dwellings there as well as the site of Delaware signing of the Declaration of Independence.  It's a pretty place...... 
So, after the game, hit lunch at Smither's on State and walk over to the green.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 29, 2007, 01:47:50 PM
The First State Heritage Park at Dover

Established by Governor Ruth Ann Minner in 2004, The First State Heritage Park represents a partnership between the Delaware Department of State, the Delaware Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Control, and the Delaware Economic Development Office.  The state's first "park without boundaries" links historical and cultural sites in the capital city of Dover.

http://www.dnrec.state.de.us/parks/heritagepark/index.asp

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 29, 2007, 02:03:11 PM
Here is a pdf of their current offerings (has hours and good stuff like that).

http://www.dnrec.state.de.us/parks/heritagepark/FSHP_winter0708.pdf
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 29, 2007, 02:06:49 PM
Conrad,

I'm back and I've got your cheese curds! See you at the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 29, 2007, 02:17:05 PM
Quote from: dedragon on November 29, 2007, 02:06:49 PM
Conrad,

I'm back and I've got your cheese curds! See you at the game.

Sweet! Hopefully I be able to buy my own next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 29, 2007, 04:43:23 PM
    W&J Bracket  ;) Final....If Wesley starts slowly like they did against Muhlenburg, UMHB won't wait and will probably make them pay. If Wesley starts off fast out of the blocks and scores early, they will put the Crusaders in a situation that doesn't work well for a running/option team-playing from behind. I see this one going against Wesley....I think Schatz is a good qb, but he is not quite the decision maker (yet) that Warrick was IMHO-. UMHB 28 Wesley 21
may they all come out healthy.......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Oil Can on November 29, 2007, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on November 29, 2007, 04:43:23 PM
    W&J Bracket  ;) Final....If Wesley starts slowly like they did against Muhlenburg, UMHB won't wait and will probably make them pay. If Wesley starts off fast out of the blocks and scores early, they will put the Crusaders in a situation that doesn't work well for a running/option team-playing from behind. I see this one going against Wesley....I think Schatz is a good qb, but he is not quite the decision maker (yet) that Warrick was IMHO-. UMHB 28 Wesley 21
may they all come out healthy.......

BFKAW&JB (Bracket formerly known as W&J bracket) :D

Wesley has started slow the last 2 weeks, (behind in 1st quarter to H-SC and behind until a minute to go in 1st half to Muhlenburg) but in a span of the first 4 Wesley offensive plays in the 2nd half last week, the game was all but over. 

Haven't seen the Crusaders this year, however, they are a team purportedly as fast and as strong as Wesley on both sides of the football.  It should be a great South Region final.  I'll take a 4 OT thriller with someone having to convert a mandated 2 point conversion for the win.  Let's see if the lights work at the stadium! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 29, 2007, 07:34:04 PM
It may be chilly in Dover, but Wesley will warm up before UMHB.

Wesley 24--UMHB--21

The chill in the hands may cause the ball to drop quickly when hit.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2007, 07:45:15 PM
Quote from: Oil Can on November 29, 2007, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on November 29, 2007, 04:43:23 PM
    W&J Bracket  ;) Final....If Wesley starts slowly like they did against Muhlenburg, UMHB won't wait and will probably make them pay. If Wesley starts off fast out of the blocks and scores early, they will put the Crusaders in a situation that doesn't work well for a running/option team-playing from behind. I see this one going against Wesley....I think Schatz is a good qb, but he is not quite the decision maker (yet) that Warrick was IMHO-. UMHB 28 Wesley 21
may they all come out healthy.......

BFKAW&JB (Bracket formerly known as W&J bracket) :D

Wesley has started slow the last 2 weeks, (behind in 1st quarter to H-SC and behind until a minute to go in 1st half to Muhlenburg) but in a span of the first 4 Wesley offensive plays in the 2nd half last week, the game was all but over. 

Haven't seen the Crusaders this year, however, they are a team purportedly as fast and as strong as Wesley on both sides of the football.  It should be a great South Region final.  I'll take a 4 OT thriller with someone having to convert a mandated 2 point conversion for the win.  Let's see if the lights work at the stadium! ;D

Oilcan
The lights do work!!! :D They needed them the day they played Salisbury  ;D
4 ot's !!! I don't think I can yell that long!!!!

  We will be in Dover Saturday.....And get this ..The Wife says how can you think about NOT going  :) IF it was reverse psychology it didn't work  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on November 29, 2007, 08:37:03 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2007, 07:45:15 PM
Quote from: Oil Can on November 29, 2007, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on November 29, 2007, 04:43:23 PM
    W&J Bracket  ;) Final....If Wesley starts slowly like they did against Muhlenburg, UMHB won't wait and will probably make them pay. If Wesley starts off fast out of the blocks and scores early, they will put the Crusaders in a situation that doesn't work well for a running/option team-playing from behind. I see this one going against Wesley....I think Schatz is a good qb, but he is not quite the decision maker (yet) that Warrick was IMHO-. UMHB 28 Wesley 21
may they all come out healthy.......

BFKAW&JB (Bracket formerly known as W&J bracket) :D

Wesley has started slow the last 2 weeks, (behind in 1st quarter to H-SC and behind until a minute to go in 1st half to Muhlenburg) but in a span of the first 4 Wesley offensive plays in the 2nd half last week, the game was all but over. 

Haven't seen the Crusaders this year, however, they are a team purportedly as fast and as strong as Wesley on both sides of the football.  It should be a great South Region final.  I'll take a 4 OT thriller with someone having to convert a mandated 2 point conversion for the win.  Let's see if the lights work at the stadium! ;D

Oilcan
The lights do work!!! :D They needed them the day they played Salisbury  ;D
4 ot's !!! I don't think I can yell that long!!!!

  We will be in Dover Saturday.....And get this ..The Wife says how can you think about NOT going  :) IF it was reverse psychology it didn't work  ;)

We will see you there. Bring your appetite and voice.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2007, 09:31:45 PM
 It's been eerily quite all week about the Wesley/UMHB game. That is a sign of a few things.  Respect for the opponents and/or anticipation of the unknown.
Certainly beats the bashing that went on last year and the fanaticism going on in some other boards.

  Wesley has been able to slow down some good running teams this year. Slowing down UMHB is going to be a big challenge. If UMHB has an achillies heal it may be they can drop the ball. Wesley ahs also had it's share of turnovers. Wesley has a good running game and a good passing attack. The Cru has an excellent D against the run. Wesley has the ability to score quickly.

   This should be a battle to the end, but as both these teams know when two great teams get together things don't always play out that way. I am sure the Wesley coaching staff has some plays ready to exploit the UMHB secondary and I am sure the UMHB staff has some wrinkles to throw at Wesley.

  Safe travel for all you UMHB fans and The Stone Station crew of two.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 29, 2007, 09:44:38 PM
pawesleyfan, i agree.  it has been quiet.  there was plenty of chirping by the umhb posters the first 2 weeks, but not much this week.  if umhb sticks to its philosophy of pressuring the qb by sending numbers, they may be in trouble against the pass.  wesleyhas a pretty good o line and  has only given up 1 sack per game.  finding the hot route will be crucial and it is not like schatz wasnt involved in that last year as a receiver.  can wesley run the ball with some success?  can umhb run the ball with success, they were very confident last year and did not fair very well.  what will they do on the kickoff and punts, wesley is certainly better in those categories.  no turnovers for wesley will be key, especially if the cru give it up 1 or 2 times.  i like wesely's chances.  wesley 27 - umhb 17.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 30, 2007, 07:13:54 AM
Wesley by 3 over UMHB.  Call it the "Home Team" advantage.

Good luck this weekend Wolverines!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 30, 2007, 11:43:50 AM
It's gonna be a tough game for Wesley.  However, if UMHB's run is as predicatable as was Salisbury's,  then I think Wesley will do well.  Once they dial in the blocking assignments in the 1st quarter, then they should be able to plug the holes and stop the run, I hope!  If UMBH's rush is inescapable as some say, then I hope Wesley practiced their screens for this week......

I'm going with Wesley 33 UMHB 27....

-Ski

ps...I won't be able to make the tailgating this time 'round, unfortunately.  I'm working back-to-back 12 hour night shifts (I'm with the USAF), so I have to power nap before and after the game.....  :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on December 01, 2007, 02:47:58 AM
Wesley 28 Cru 24
Hard fought game Wesley needs to run the ball and the Cru needs to play more drop back zone.  Wesley will score early and the Cru will make a comeback.  Great game lots of tailgating and hopefully in the end the wolverines will be getting a third shot at the Warhawks go Wolverines beat the Cru.
Oh yah and don't kick to beavers if you want to win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 01, 2007, 07:49:31 AM
Quote from: Wesleyfan24 on December 01, 2007, 02:47:58 AM
Oh yah and don't kick to beavers if you want to win.

Interesting ,when looking at the kickoff stats for Cru kicker Joel Munoz. He has 20 touchbacks on 107 kickoffs. Pretty unusual in D-III since they moved it back to the 30. Munoz has had lots of practice, since the Cru has scored 91 touchdowns this season (hopefully, they won't do that today.) Maybe they will try to kick it over Beavers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 01, 2007, 08:01:43 AM
Quote from: Conrad on December 01, 2007, 07:49:31 AM
Quote from: Wesleyfan24 on December 01, 2007, 02:47:58 AM
Oh yah and don't kick to beavers if you want to win.

Interesting ,when looking at the kickoff stats for Cru kicker Joel Munoz. He has 20 touchbacks on 107 kickoffs. Pretty unusual in D-III since they moved it back to the 30. Munoz has had lots of practice, since the Cru has scored 91 touchdowns this season (hopefully, they won't do that today.) Maybe they will try to kick it over Beavers.
If he's not kicking into the wind, he can kick it to the goal line.  If with the wind, I've seen him put it out the back.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 01, 2007, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: mhb8904 on December 01, 2007, 08:01:43 AM
Quote from: Conrad on December 01, 2007, 07:49:31 AM
Quote from: Wesleyfan24 on December 01, 2007, 02:47:58 AM
Oh yah and don't kick to beavers if you want to win.

Interesting ,when looking at the kickoff stats for Cru kicker Joel Munoz. He has 20 touchbacks on 107 kickoffs. Pretty unusual in D-III since they moved it back to the 30. Munoz has had lots of practice, since the Cru has scored 91 touchdowns this season (hopefully, they won't do that today.) Maybe they will try to kick it over Beavers.
If he's not kicking into the wind, he can kick it to the goal line.  If with the wind, I've seen him put it out the back.
Looks a little breezy this morning out my window (about 1.5 miles form Miller Stadium), skies are clear, temperature is in the low 40's. Great day for a game!
Probably best for the Cru to play it safe when kicking to Beavers, if you saw the game in '05 you know why.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 01, 2007, 11:48:18 AM
good luck wesley!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2007, 03:09:55 PM
Well, that's all they wrote.... :'(

27-10 UMHB over Wesley.  Once again, turnovers absolutely killed Wesley.  5 total.  You just can't win like that.  For the most part, Wesley did a pretty good job on defense, but the offence failed them and the defense spent too much time on the field.  Schatz couldn't get it in gear in the second half, and Wesley didn't employ sweep plays which  I really thought would of worked against this UMBH defense, IMHO....

UMBH came in with a lot of heart and hats off to them.  I yelled up to their coordinators a wish of good luck.  They will really need it once again against UWW.

At least I got to wave to the famous Keith McMillan in the press box.  I should of got his autograph, hehehehe....

Wesley had a great year.  I think we felt that lack of the Warrick factor in this game, and that was just enough to sway it..... But those turnovers.... ARGHHH!!!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on December 01, 2007, 03:15:32 PM
Congratulations to Wesley for a great season and an excellent game.  The D3 webcast remarked several times about the good sportsmanship exhibited on the field by both teams!!!  See you next year. :)

As for the 5 turnovers, now you know how we felt after the UWW game this year. :( >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on December 01, 2007, 05:46:51 PM
Thanks to the Wesley players' parents for the hospitality shown to us today.  It was good to meet Mr. Schatz and the pork roll sandwiches from Pat Bell's family hit the spot. 

Congrats on a great season and I'll see you guys next year at Delaware Valley, if not sooner.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2007, 08:35:49 PM
gordan, it was nice meeting you and keith today.  you guys do a great job and are always welcome at the bell - schatz tailgate.

teamski, i find it interesting that you mention that schatz could not get it going in the second half.  what exactly did he do that lead to the lose.  to mention that the warrick factor was missing is totally offbase as to why wesley lost.  warrick or not, 5 turnovers is the reason wesley lost.

congrats to wesley for a great season.  get to work, you know what you need to do to take it to the next level next season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2007, 09:03:14 PM
pawesleyfan.  it was really nice meeting you and your father this year.  football is a great game and it has allowed my wife and i to meet some fantastic people.  i am not sure if we will see you in the near future, stagg bowl, so we would like to wish you and yours a very merry xmas and a safe and healthy new year.  see you next year when wesley makes another run deep into the d3 playoffs.  remember, you are always welcome at the bell - schatz tailgate.  again, thanks for your kind words for my other son, he leaves at the end of the month for 15 months.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Oil Can on December 01, 2007, 09:48:49 PM
Pa_wesleyfan,

Congratulations on another great season for the Wesley Wolverines.  The team I saw play the last 3 weeks has as many top quality playmakers as I've seen on any D3 team.  I enjoyed hanging with you and your father!

wesleydad,

Much to be proud of; #14 is a heck of a talent!  The hospitality shown by you and your tailgate crew was outstanding and much appreciated.  Thanks for everything...hope to see you all in Salem.  Please pass along my thanks to the Bell's as well!

Dali Llama,

Thanks for the lift and the grub.  Another good playoff run to culminate at the Stagg on December 15.  I'm always ready when you need a shotgun rider.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2007, 10:09:44 PM
oil can, same to you.  thanks for the comments about #14.  we will see you at the stagg.  you guys are always welcome to join us.  i will pass along the good word to the bell's, they may also join us at the stagg, more of the great people we have met while our son has been at wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2007, 11:16:49 PM
  Llama and Oilcan

  Thanks for the slow boil. What a great three weeks!!!! You guys are #1

wesleydad(and family) and the Bells
   
   Thank you for the hospitality. Great to see  how  the tailgating has improved from a mere three or four sets of parents a few years ago to what  is now a great pre and post game tailgate. I think it is great to see the players and and ex players and coaches and OLD fans getting together. I don't know of too many places that that happens after games.

  K-Mack and Gordan

Good to see you both again. Nice to trade opinions and views face to face

  Wesley Wolverines

Great job men... You played to the end.  Congrats a on a GREAT season 
   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2007, 11:42:28 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 01, 2007, 08:35:49 PM

teamski, i find it interesting that you mention that schatz could not get it going in the second half.  what exactly did he do that lead to the lose.  to mention that the warrick factor was missing is totally offbase as to why wesley lost.  warrick or not, 5 turnovers is the reason wesley lost.

Sorry, I didn't mean anything personal about my comments.  No doubt, the 5 turnovers lost the game for us. Although  I don't have Jason's stats, he was off his passing game today.  Throughout the most of the season, he was able to dial in his accuracy as the game went along, but today, he really never did.   The reason that we beat UMHB  last year was in large part due to Warrick's ability to pass the ball and keep the chains moving.   He was an improviser.  The offense today simply petered out (even with 350+ yards of offense).   

Again, I didn't mean to slam anybody, I just call it as I see it.  I don't have a kid in the game.    I will make sure that I refrain from mentioning names from now on....

Thanks Wesley for another excellent year!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2007, 12:04:09 AM
Teamski

Saw you waving to K-Mack but couldn't get over to you to introduce myself.
Keep supporting the Wolverines. And keep on posting.  You and wesleydad have been a welcome addition to the board as there have been very few posters here over the years.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2007, 01:02:57 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2007, 12:04:09 AM
Teamski

Saw you waving to K-Mack but couldn't get over to you to introduce myself.
Keep supporting the Wolverines. And keep on posting.  You and wesleydad have been a welcome addition to the board as there have been very few posters here over the years.

Well, I'll be retiring from the USAF locally, so I will be around for quite a while!  I went to work tonight completely devoid of my voice.  I really belted it out today!

I am REALLY lucky to have a team like Wesley to cheer for!  I sure hope to meet you sometime.....and thanks!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on December 02, 2007, 01:57:48 AM
Today went just like the whole season did.  UMHB looked like they had stickum on their hands while wesley had vasaline.  Turnovers were wesleys kryptonite.  Schatz did not lose the game for wesley.  The passing game was there it just wasn't working out.  Great season for the wolverines, sorry to say but this years UMHB team does not look like the same team that they have had for the past two years.  If you get 5 turnovers you should be putting up 40+.  Whitewater is going to drown the Cru next week.  Sorry the team i saw out there could not beat UWW if you think you can go ahead and try.  I predict UWW 42 UMHB 17.  Looks like a UWW vs MUC final again, kinda getting old.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: yessir on December 02, 2007, 04:51:51 AM
Quote from: Wesleyfan24 on December 02, 2007, 01:57:48 AM
Today went just like the whole season did.  UMHB looked like they had stickum on their hands while wesley had vasaline.  Turnovers were wesleys kryptonite.  Schatz did not lose the game for wesley.  The passing game was there it just wasn't working out.  Great season for the wolverines, sorry to say but this years UMHB team does not look like the same team that they have had for the past two years.  If you get 5 turnovers you should be putting up 40+.  Whitewater is going to drown the Cru next week.  Sorry the team i saw out there could not beat UWW if you think you can go ahead and try.  I predict UWW 42 UMHB 17.  Looks like a UWW vs MUC final again, kinda getting old.

Drown eh, so what exactly did UMHB do to Wesley today.  With previous loses to UWW of 58-6 and 44-7, i'm not sure anyone from Wesley can talk about UWW "Drowning" UMHB. UMHB's 41-14 lose to UWW this season is more respectable than any of Wesley loses to UWW. Sounds like a bunch of sour losers to me........

"If you think you can go ahead and try" What are they suppose to do, not try? What a 5th grader.

Dang, there is some grumpy people in Dover. I'm glad I didn't make the trip.....would of ruined my weekend, all the bad attitudes. Grumpy old Doverians.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kelly Boggs on December 02, 2007, 06:50:54 AM
Congratulations to Wesley on a great season and a hard fought game. It was a tough loss. It sounds like the Wolverines will be loaded next season. Your offense will once again be one of the most explosive in the nation.

It's always frustarating when turnovers contribute to a loss. UMHB's earlier meeting with UWW (5 turnovers - 3 in the first 5 series) is a case in point. And I believe that in the 2005 meeting with Wesley, the CRU lost 4 fumbles.

No doubt the penalty that nullified the long score hurt Wesley. It would have not only tied the game, but provided much needed momentum. I can't blame you for "what if'n."

It was an exciting game with both teams making their share of mistakes. One UMHB fan said the CRU played their "A" game. I have to respectfully disagree. They made enough plays to win. The defense made some stops when it needed to. The CRU ran the ball effectively in the second half and completed a couple of big passes on third and long. During the game, K-Mack pointed out that UMHB being plus in turnovers this year is nothing new. The CRU had 50 plus (I don't remember the exact total) going into the Wesley game. 

UMHB is fortunate to be moving on. The CRU has a shot at redemption against UWW. Will they win? Don't know, but if they protect the ball it will be an exciting game. 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2007, 08:28:59 AM
teamski, i dont have a problem if you mention a player, my son or any other one.  i was just wondering about your comment.  you explained it, not sure if i agree with it, but that is what this is for anyway.  the passing game was out of sinc today, not sure why ???, a combination of wind, play calling, umhb defense, bad decision making, etc.  one thing for sure is that when they did get the ball moving there was a turnover which i think will cause disruption for any offense, no matter who the qb is, that is my point.  you are always welcome to voice your opinion and hopefully next year you will be able to join us for some tailgating before or after the game :).  i am well aware that my son's perfromance will get more scrutiny than most since he is the qb.  i hear it, if it is accurate accept it and maybe even pass it on if i think it will help him improve.  if i think it is unfounded, ignore it or question it.  i harbor no hard feelings towards anyone who is a fan, especially someone like yourself who has adopted the wolverines as your team with no direct connection, thanks for that ;D.  have a good holiday season and save your voice, i think you will need it for next year, they should be better than this year.

umhbalum, well stated.  i am glad someone else saw the same game i did.  the td call back was huge and we will never know how the game would have turned out, but that is football.  i agree with you, that could not have been the cru's A game.  good luck next week.

pawesleyfan, you know you and your dad are always welcome before or after the game.  the tailgating at wesley is certainly part of the experience each home game :D, all are welcome wesley fans and opponent's fans.  have a good holiday season and see you next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on December 02, 2007, 11:09:42 AM
   First off congats to Wesley on a tremendous run....and for those who are frequent here, they know that this Salisbury guy has no love loss for the Wolverines.....but they have my respect 100%. I was there and I have no dog left in the fight -I try to call it like I see it. I wasn't as impressed with UMHB as I thought I would be-they won, but the game really could have went either way. I actually think the better overall athletic talent was on the Wesley sideline. I'm not saying MHB isn't good-they're very, very good-but after the 64-0 drubbing they laid on NCWesleyan, I thought I as going to see a team on another level. They're solid and VERY well coached-fundamentally very sound. As far as the QB position is concerned no doubt Schatz is head and shoulders above the the QB for MHB. Schatz played well enough to win and he wasn't the one laying the ball on the ground. It happens....some of it is good solid hitting on the defense's part and some is the back or receiver trying for that extra yard, the weather and let's face it sometimes it just isn't your day.  Schatz actually played well and I was impressed..he competed to the whistle and that is all you can ask. Wesleydad you should be proud...it has to be tough to follow a guy like Warrick..but the progression of your son has been steady..the kid can play-he has a believer here. I don't like UMHB's chances next week, but I hope for a South Region rep in the finals. Alerady looking forward to WEEK 9 next year!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2007, 11:42:51 AM
subacker, i agree with your take on umhb.  i was expecting the same thing and did not see it.  they were better last year.  as always, from a wesley standpoint, looking forward to the challenge that salisbury always presents, see you in week 9.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2007, 12:00:05 PM
Wesleydad,

Just let me know what you want me to bring for the tailgating and my wife and I will be there!  Honestly, Jason improved quite a bit through the year.  I guess that's why I am being tough on him.  He's moving around a lot more and smartly running with the ball when a target isn't opening up.  This year was the perfect confidence building season.  He got them through the second round of the playoffs.  You can't ask any more than that! ;)

It will be hard to see Bryan Robinson, Jamal Williams, Alpha Koroma, Michael Clark and the rest of the Senior crew go!!  They were all such a large part of Wesley's success these last couple years........

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2007, 12:28:32 PM
teamski, since we tailgate with the bell's there is usually plenty of food.  bring your beverage of choice and join us next year.  it is tough seeing the seniors go, robinson was one of the first players i met when jason arrived at college, what a great person.  the d line will be tough to replace, but coach has played many guys so they will have experience.  it is a shame that there will be no game this week, my wife and i are already trying to figure out what to do next saturday.  we are taking a trip to the stagg the following week, jason is coming along.  thanks for the positive support of the team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2007, 12:37:36 PM
Have a VERY safe trip!   I am really looking forward to next year and meeting the clan.

I think my wife is relieved it's over.  It's taken her 18 years to finally understand the game of football and she's been really good about hitting the home games (and Widener).

Wow,  I am right now completely silenced. I lost 100% of my voice this morning, hehehe.... I hope it comes back to me by tonight for work.   I really yelled it up yesterday.

I caught Bryan at Smither's several weeks ago and  congratulated him on the Brockport State game.  He is indeed a really nice guy.  I wish him the best of luck.  I sure wish they would show the Aztec Bowl on TV!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 02, 2007, 01:48:19 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on December 02, 2007, 11:09:42 AM
   First off congats to Wesley on a tremendous run....and for those who are frequent here, they know that this Salisbury guy has no love loss for the Wolverines.....but they have my respect 100%. I was there and I have no dog left in the fight -I try to call it like I see it. I wasn't as impressed with UMHB as I thought I would be-they won, but the game really could have went either way. I actually think the better overall athletic talent was on the Wesley sideline. I'm not saying MHB isn't good-they're very, very good-but after the 64-0 drubbing they laid on NCWesleyan, I thought I as going to see a team on another level. They're solid and VERY well coached-fundamentally very sound. As far as the QB position is concerned no doubt Schatz is head and shoulders above the the QB for MHB. Schatz played well enough to win and he wasn't the one laying the ball on the ground. It happens....some of it is good solid hitting on the defense's part and some is the back or receiver trying for that extra yard, the weather and let's face it sometimes it just isn't your day.  Schatz actually played well and I was impressed..he competed to the whistle and that is all you can ask. Wesleydad you should be proud...it has to be tough to follow a guy like Warrick..but the progression of your son has been steady..the kid can play-he has a believer here. I don't like UMHB's chances next week, but I hope for a South Region rep in the finals. Alerady looking forward to WEEK 9 next year!!
Quote from: wesleydad on December 02, 2007, 11:42:51 AM
subacker, i agree with your take on umhb.  i was expecting the same thing and did not see it.  they were better last year.  as always, from a wesley standpoint, looking forward to the challenge that salisbury always presents, see you in week 9.
I know to hear some UMHB fans it sounds like the Cru absolutely dominates everyone, and in our conference that is often true.  The ASC has layers of talent and truthfully some are just not that good, but if you look at UMHB when playing quality opponents, you'll find that the game played yesterday is fairly typical of UMHB football.  I am a fan, and if you go back far enough I'm sure you'll find me talking/complaining about how mundane UMHB is.  They're not flashy, not necessarily impressive, and at times down right boring, especially in the first half.  I listened to the game yesterday and commented on the board several times that the game sounded typical even as the announcers were talking about how sloppy things were looking.  The Cru is out there to win not look good, and when the game looks or sounds like it did on the radio yesterday, I start feeling good about the day because come third and fourth quarter, the 2 lines of undominating O-line start blowing open bigger and bigger holes.  In a close game between relatively closely matched talent, it only takes one or two big holes (yesterday is a prime example) to blow it open if the defense is doing what it needs to do.  Did UMHB bring their A game yesterday?  You would have to ask them, but I bet the answer is no, but Wesley lost because the Cru was able to play it's game, which includes taking the ball away from opponents.  If the Cru gets behind early or can't get a little separation on a team that can score quickly, its going to have problems  But if the Cru plays its game and doesn't turn the ball over, it will be ugly, but I like our chances.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 02, 2007, 04:10:16 PM
Well stated, umhb8904!

Between Wesley and UMHB, how do we settle this?  Play best 16 out of 31?  :D

It might take that.

The game was competitive and things broke for UMHB this year.

There is not that much difference between the 2 teams and UMHB broke it this year.

I stated on the Daily Dose (and I may be parroting another poster), but I think that Wesley is getting the talent that Rowan used to get.  We should see a shift in the balance of power, and Wesley will be a fixture in the northern half of the region for the rest of the decade.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2007, 04:28:23 PM
Ralph

I doubt that very much. Keeler always got D1 transfers to boost his program and still gets them at Delaware. Wesley has always done well in S.Jersey recruiting as well as S.E. PA.  And the cost differential doeesn't make it feasable. Don't forget that Wesley and Widener are competing with Rowan and Co of NJ and even Del Val as well as Salisbury for Wesley for palyers. I know for a fact that players in NJ have played H.S. in PA and become Jersey residents to get in state tuitions
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on December 02, 2007, 05:09:53 PM
Wesleydad,

Congrats to you, your son, and your team on a fine run. I sincerely hope we have the opportuity to meet next season, at your place or ours, and rest assured, the
Mules will have to bring their  "A" game to beat the Wolverines. I feel things could
very well have turned out different for  Wesley if the TD was not called back and the turnovers were't such a killer.
My wife and I listened to your game on d3 this week but we are going through
end of season withdrawl ,and wish you good luck as you go through the same.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2007, 05:56:56 PM
MULEDADDY, thanks for the kind words.  i dont think there is much doubt that the called back td would have changed things, still you cant fumble 5 times and win.  yes, the withdrawal has already started, but i will delay it a little by going to the stagg bowl in 2 weeks.  have a happy holiday and maybe we will meet next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on December 02, 2007, 07:49:15 PM
  Wow...somebody hit my karma for that post? You are seriously thin- skinned.....I was there.....I watch Salisbury every week and have been for 5 years......I coached on the high school level for 3 years...I know what I am looking at. I called it the way it was....I said MHB was "very, very good" - because they are...but you are kidding yourself if you don't think that game could have been won by either of those teams. Look, I don't care for Wesley.......read this board and you'll know that- Salisbury folks for the most part feel that way-and those feelings are reciprocated By Wesley folks back our way. But I have seen enough D3 football to know they are talented-as is MHB- and both teams have my respect. As far as my comment that I didn't see what I thought I would-"a team on another level"-I stand by it-it is not a slap and shouldn't be construed that way. But option teams that can't throw very well can be contained by a tough, disciplined and well schemed defense. Ask me how I know!!-I didn't see a real ability to threaten with the pass. If you guys beat UWW I would be surprised-but happy-and take a measure of pride in that victory, as my team was one of 8 to represent the South Region.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 02, 2007, 08:00:20 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on December 02, 2007, 07:49:15 PM
  Wow...somebody hit my karma for that post? You are seriously thin- skinned.....I was there.....I watch Salisbury every week and have been for 5 years......I coached on the high school level for 3 years...I know what I am looking at. I called it the way it was....I said MHB was "very, very good" - because they are...but you are kidding yourself if you don't think that game could have been won by either of those teams. Look, I don't care for Wesley.......read this board and you'll know that- Salisbury folks for the most part feel that way-and those feelings are reciprocated By Wesley folks back our way. But I have seen enough D3 football to know they are talented-as is MHB- and both teams have my respect. As far as my comment that I didn't see what I thought I would-"a team on another level"-I stand by it-it is not a slap and shouldn't be construed that way. But option teams that can't throw very well can be contained by a tough, disciplined and well schemed defense. Ask me how I know!!-I didn't see a real ability to threaten with the pass. If you guys beat UWW I would be surprised-but happy-and take a measure of pride in that victory, as my team was one of 8 to represent the South Region.
+1 K  there was no reason for someone to ding you for a well thought opinion that was not in anyway derogatory.  Please understand I was not at the game and was listening on the radio.  i was commenting based on the call, and it sounded like typical UMHB football.  i have never seen a game against an evenly matched team that made UMHB look like a team on another level. When I watch the Cru, I always feel like the hammer is going to fall, usually until the 2nd half.  I'd encourage you to watch next Saturday.  If UMHB wins, you'll finish the game thinking the same thing you thought after the Wesley game.  If they lose, same thing. That's one reason that I doubt you'll see a Gagliardi finalist on a UMHB team anytime soon.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on December 02, 2007, 08:16:49 PM
  Thanks mhb8904....  and good luck next week.....damn I wish we were in you guys' shoes!!! My son never experienced even 1 playoff win in his career at SU and it still stings  :D ...I can only imagine that the thrill of winning even one of those games must unbelieveably sweet ....for those that I got to talk to from MHB saturday "y'all" support your team and travel well...just couldn't bring myself to sit on the Wesley side LOL...for you players and parents savor every minute 'cause it goes by way too fast....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2007, 08:29:32 PM
subacker, you are correct, it is sweet winning playoff games.  we have gotten to experience it for 3 years now and it has been fun.  traveling to whitewater last year was cold, but worth every penny eventhough we lost.  i dont know how you lost karma and i just noticed that i am at -3 somehow.  well, when you put honest and factual points out there, some people cant handle it.  you are always inciteful with your posts, cheer for the wrong team ;), but honest.  umhb8904 is also.  it is a shame that some posters cant handle honest analysis of a game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 02, 2007, 08:29:37 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on December 02, 2007, 08:16:49 PM...just couldn't bring myself to sit on the Wesley side LOL...

I understand I'm both a UMHB and HSU alumnus (I have a MDiv from HSU and am working on a MA there now) and when the Cru comes to Abilene, I use my HSU ID to get in and sit with the Cru faithful. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2007, 08:51:00 PM
MHB

Oh a trader ;D  One thing about the game not really touched on was how well Wesley's D held their own. Meaninng they had a number of good series BUT by turnover or three and out they had to pop right back out on the field.

  SU  Backer

Don't take the karma thing to seriuosly. I opined pretty much the same thing you did and took 5 hits today. I don't agree with some of the Texas people because they beleive that noone north on Texas can play football. And I will take more hits until my post gets lost down the line  ;D

  I don't think it's bad to post your opinions but the personal bashing ticks me off. I may disagree with some ones view  of a game I saw but I would never call them stupid for view.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 02, 2007, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2007, 09:38:41 AM
yessir

  Now you come out of your hole!!!!!!! Where were you last week hiding under a rock? It's easy to talk big after a win. And once again you choose to tun everything around to your liking. Can't wait to here yourcomments after next week!  But I am sure you will slither back to where you were this week.

Wasn't this fairly personal?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 02, 2007, 09:03:28 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2007, 08:51:00 PM
MHB

Oh a trader ;D  One thing about the game not really touched on was how well Wesley's D held their own. Meaninng they had a number of good series BUT by turnover or three and out they had to pop right back out on the field.

  SU  Backer

Don't take the karma thing to seriuosly. I opined pretty much the same thing you did and took 5 hits today. I don't agree with some of the Texas people because they beleive that noone north on Texas can play football. And I will take more hits until my post gets lost down the line  ;D

  I don't think it's bad to post your opinions but the personal bashing ticks me off. I may disagree with some ones view  of a game I saw but I would never call them stupid for view.
I was going to stay @ MHB for my Master's but they discontinued my degree plan my last year of undergrad.  :P

besides HSU paid full tuition for my MDiv and are paying full tuition for my MA.  Plus, I work for the school so I pay no rent for a 3 bedroom house.

No doubt that Wesley's D was good.  The speed of Wesley was definitely a factor.  When Thrasher goes for 80yds most D's can't catch him and save the TD.  Kieth and Gordon even made comments.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2007, 09:12:40 PM
Pat

I will defend myself against others posters. And thats all I will say about that.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 02, 2007, 09:20:36 PM
Just seems like it's a little unusual to decry personal bashing with one hand while engaging in it with the other.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2007, 09:22:31 PM
Well enough was enough And I stand by my statements to yessir
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kelly Boggs on December 02, 2007, 09:26:04 PM
Nothing but respect here for Wesley's program. Plus karma all around  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2007, 09:31:59 PM
Quote from: UMHBalum-n-CenLa on December 02, 2007, 09:26:04 PM
Nothing but respect here for Wesley's program. Plus karma all around  :)

Did UMHB have a package travel deal for students this wekend? There seemed to be a large student following to Dover. There was a good crowd on the CRu side 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kelly Boggs on December 02, 2007, 09:46:30 PM
PA_w,

No clue. I live in Central Louisiana, about 6 hours from Belton, Texas where UMHB is located. However, that said, I heard that some students were going to drive. In the past, they have offered some pretty good packages when UMHB has traveled. I lived in Oregon for a while and hosted a couple of tailgate parties for fans making the trip when the CRU played Willamette. There was a pretty good number. Also, in 2004 on the run to the Stagg, I think UMHB had some charted buses for students/fans.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 02, 2007, 10:20:10 PM
I haven't seen any advertisements for a bus, and in 04 it was posted on the web and on the alumni site.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 02, 2007, 10:20:49 PM
Kelly, you're +karma! :o :o :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WCswann28sis on December 02, 2007, 11:56:55 PM
For the fans and players who read this,

Its been a wonderful 4 years with this wesley football program.  When my brother decided to come to wesley I had no idea who they were or wat to expect.  He's played football for the past 12 years and to watch him play here has been me and my mother's pride and joy and it's brought us closer together as a family. Being here at wesley his grown from a boy to a man and a damn good football player and I thank u coach drass for giving him the chance to play for such an elite program, I feel as if we've takin in a second family  ;D.  Saturday after the game I cried because I knew he'd never sport that #28 jersey on that field ever again, I watched him pace the field alone after the game and it broke my heart :'(.  THANK U WESLEY FOR THE PAST 4 YEARS THE BEST YEARS OF FOOTBALL OF OUR FAMILY'S LIFE  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 03, 2007, 12:17:01 AM
Come One Come All to Stone Station's 4th Annual Christmas Party

Saturday December 15th, 2007

9am - 9pm

Salem Stadium Parkinglot , Salem, VA

Menu
BBQ Chicken Quarters
BBQ Pork
Fried Turkey
Potatoes
Chips
& Olinemom's Brownies!

As always, first come, first served. Join us as we watch the crowning of another D3 Football Champion!

In lieu of presents, just bring your favorite flavor of Boone's Farm by the bottle!  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: yessir on December 03, 2007, 05:00:52 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 02, 2007, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2007, 09:38:41 AM
yessir

  Now you come out of your hole!!!!!!! Where were you last week hiding under a rock? It's easy to talk big after a win. And once again you choose to tun everything around to your liking. Can't wait to here yourcomments after next week!  But I am sure you will slither back to where you were this week.

Wasn't this fairly personal?

No worries here Pat, it's just the internet.

PA_Wesleyfan, last week I was handleing a little "Grown Up" business. Sometimes us kids do that type of stuff........

On a more personal not, if PA_Wesleyfan would like to know what this "Kid" had to contend with while playing D3 football at UMHB shoot me an email. I'll be sure to fill you in on my personal troubles. Since we're getting personal and all.

cru_78@yahoo.com

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on December 03, 2007, 10:49:05 AM
 Llama....  My son and I will be there....I had hoped for 4 years to get there, obviously with him playing. I told him when he was a freshman and we watched the game together on TV that he would play in that game someday. Well we didn't make it, so the next best thing will be to finally see one in person.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 03, 2007, 11:51:34 AM
Quote from: SU Backer on December 03, 2007, 10:49:05 AM
Llama....  My son and I will be there....I had hoped for 4 years to get there, obviously with him playing. I told him when he was a freshman and we watched the game together on TV that he would play in that game someday. Well we didn't make it, so the next best thing will be to finally see one in person.

That is actually a very good plan. We have had many players come see the Holy Grail in person after playing this great game. Last year the starting middle linebacker who played for UMHB in the 2004 Stagg Bowl came with his father and I believe he will be there again this year. If you have the time and the means, once you go once, you will always want to go again. Stop by and introduce yourself. We are easy to find, just look for the Bridgewater Football flags in the sky right behind the main entrance to the stadium. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on December 03, 2007, 02:35:05 PM
  Thanks Llama....we will do that..I'll be a short guy with a Salisbury hoodie that weighs about 260......accompanied by my son .....who is 6'2" and has his 260 distrubited a lot better than I do !  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2007, 03:27:49 PM
subacker, we will be there also. jason still has one year left, so you never know next year.  we wanted to get there this year but it wasnt to be.  we will be easy to find, wesley 13 sweatshirts.  we will be with the stone station guys, sounds like the best place to be.  i will not be bringing any boones farm, yuengling for us.  see you there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on December 03, 2007, 03:33:35 PM
SU Backer,

I am the dad of that Cru LB that Llamaguy was talking about.  I am looking forward to meeting you and the Wesley fans that show up at the Stagg.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2007, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: yessir on December 03, 2007, 05:00:52 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 02, 2007, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2007, 09:38:41 AM
yessir

  Now you come out of your hole!!!!!!! Where were you last week hiding under a rock? It's easy to talk big after a win. And once again you choose to tun everything around to your liking. Can't wait to here yourcomments after next week!  But I am sure you will slither back to where you were this week.


Wasn't this fairly personal?

No worries here Pat, it's just the internet.

PA_Wesleyfan, last week I was handleing a little "Grown Up" business. Sometimes us kids do that type of stuff........

On a more personal not, if PA_Wesleyfan would like to know what this "Kid" had to contend with while playing D3 football at UMHB shoot me an email. I'll be sure to fill you in on my personal troubles. Since we're getting personal and all.

cru_78@yahoo.com



yessir

I don't need to trade war stories with you, we all have our crosses to carry.

I don't believe I misunderstood your post one bit.    You wanted to  touch a nerve and it worked...

I am done with it. I hope you life has turned out well. 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2007, 05:08:40 PM
Quote from: WCswann28sis on December 02, 2007, 11:56:55 PM
For the fans and players who read this,

Its been a wonderful 4 years with this wesley football program.  When my brother decided to come to wesley I had no idea who they were or wat to expect.  He's played football for the past 12 years and to watch him play here has been me and my mother's pride and joy and it's brought us closer together as a family. Being here at wesley his grown from a boy to a man and a damn good football player and I thank u coach drass for giving him the chance to play for such an elite program, I feel as if we've takin in a second family  ;D.  Saturday after the game I cried because I knew he'd never sport that #28 jersey on that field ever again, I watched him pace the field alone after the game and it broke my heart :'(.  THANK U WESLEY FOR THE PAST 4 YEARS THE BEST YEARS OF FOOTBALL OF OUR FAMILY'S LIFE  ;D

WCswann28sis

Too bad your brother had to finish the season watching. He had a real good career.
But just  because he is done playing doesn't mean you have to leave. Heck my son graduated in 98 and 00 and we still are avid fans
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on December 03, 2007, 10:31:08 PM
The question is two days old but just in case PA_wesleyfan is still wondering I thought I would answer. No UMHB did not offer any travel packages to the students to get to the game. Those who came, including myself, are very blessed to have the means to get their on their own. I was lucky enough to fly this year, after driving last year to the game.

I would like to congratulate Wesley on their success this year, I feel pretty confident in saying that if UMHB can replace all of their senior they will most likely be seeing Wesley again in the playoffs.

Also just to throw out an idea, I noticed that UMHB and Wesley have open dates next season at the same time. I know UMHB has been willing to spend the money to play top-notch talent around the country, would Wesley be willing to do the same?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2007, 10:58:06 PM
Quote from: crufootball on December 03, 2007, 10:31:08 PM
The question is two days old but just in case PA_wesleyfan is still wondering I thought I would answer. No UMHB did not offer any travel packages to the students to get to the game. Those who came, including myself, are very blessed to have the means to get their on their own. I was lucky enough to fly this year, after driving last year to the game.

I would like to congratulate Wesley on their success this year, I feel pretty confident in saying that if UMHB can replace all of their senior they will most likely be seeing Wesley again in the playoffs.

Also just to throw out an idea, I noticed that UMHB and Wesley have open dates next season at the same time. I know UMHB has been willing to spend the money to play top-notch talent around the country, would Wesley be willing to do the same?


  I don't know if they have the bankroll to go to Texas.  I know they bussed to Wisc. in 98 or 99. Coach Drass has never refused to play anyone that I know of. The one other thing that may be a problem is the change in Presidency at the College coming in January. I did here that Wesley only had 9 commitments for next year.  But 4 of those are Montclair, DelVal, Salisbury and Widener along with Frostburg with Widener being the only home game. Add to that possibly  @ NCW and you have a killer in region without an auto bid could be suicide schedule.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 04, 2007, 12:42:34 PM
Interesting.  When is the schedule usually finalized?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Frostie on December 04, 2007, 04:10:10 PM
Thought I would pass this along from footballscoop.com

Frostburg State University is seeking a full-time Head Football Coach.  This is a 12 month appointment with USM benefits package.   

RESPONSIBILITIES:  This position will be responsible for the overall success, performance, and conduct of the football program. This person will assign duties and supervise coaching staff. Recruit, retain and graduate academically successful student-athletes. Promote the football program through public relations activities, alumni and friends of football relationships.   Candidates must demonstrate a commitment to overall departmental philosophy.  MINIMUM

QUALIFICATIONS:  Applicants must possess 3-5 years previous coaching experience as a coordinator at the collegiate level.  Bachelor's degree required. 

PREFERRED QUALIFICATIONS: Head Coach or Assistant Head Coach experience at the collegiate level.  Master's degree preferred.   To apply, send letter of interest, resume, and the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of three professional references by January 15, 2008, to: Frostburg State University, Office of Human Resources, ATTN: Head Football Coach Search (Position #08-010206), Frostburg, MD 21532 or email   humanresources@frostburg.edu.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 04, 2007, 04:51:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 04, 2007, 12:42:34 PM
Interesting.  When is the schedule usually finalized?

-Ski
Not until Spring usually. Sometimes later (like adding the Montclair State game in May/June). I know that they have nine games scheduled as of now.
Don't know that they could afford a trip to UMHB next season since they are already flying some place else.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 04, 2007, 05:02:20 PM
Conrad

I count 5 road game already with your item about them flying unless the ACFC reschedules because of B-Port's departure. And if they are flying I would have to agree that they wouldn't fly twice during the regular schedule
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 04, 2007, 05:23:52 PM
pawesleyfan and conrad, where do you find the tentative schedule for next year.  is it on the wesley website or somewhere else?  where else are they flying next year, ncwc?  are they still checking into playing cnu or ithaca as was mentioned earlier.  if they add any of those teams or umhb, they will certainly be playing one of if not the toughest schedule in the nation.  since they usually only do 2 year contracts, maybe umhb could come here next year and wesley go there the following year.  i for one would welcome another tough opponent.  wesley benefitted from the tough early schedule, and from a fan standpoint, despite the close games it is more fun to watch those type of games than a weekly blowout.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 04, 2007, 07:32:16 PM
wesleydad
I am only going on the premise that they are playing  @Del Val, @ Montclair,
@ Salisbury and @ Frostburg. Widener and NNA at Home, plus the game Conrad mentioned. I don't have any other info to pass along. I mentioned NCW  but I don't know that they had a two year deal with them. I would think that would be a road game too. I am not even sure that Montclair was a two year deal. I know coach Drass will get a 10th game if at all possible. With all this league movement around DIII it's possible the schedule could change!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 05, 2007, 01:10:30 AM
Looks like a couple more road trips next year.... ;)  I'm more than happy to take it on the road.  The Widener game was fun!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 06, 2007, 10:33:14 AM
NCWC I would be amazed if it was a flight.  You'd be looking around a 6-6.5 hour ride. 
To give you a hint...it's only 2.5 from us to NCWC
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Knightstalker on December 07, 2007, 12:58:08 PM
Today let us remember our Soldiers and Sailors who lost their lives at Pearl Harbor and those who survived the attack in our prayers and thoughts.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 07, 2007, 01:00:30 PM
amen to that.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Wesleyfan24 on December 08, 2007, 05:43:07 AM
Though i am done with playing for the wolverines, there are a couple of things that surpass football.  9/11, Pearl Harbor, 1st bombings of the world trade center, Oklahoma City bombings, these recent mall shootings, and many other events including our troops overseas.  I know that when i played i always thought about those who gave their lives, limbs, or even their family members so that we few young men would be able to experience something as grand as stepping onto a D3 football field not for a scholarship, nor to make the NFL no we did it because we loved it.  The saying "football is war", that isn't true Football is a great game played by extraordinary young men, who play this game because people gave their lives and their families for us as americans to enjoy the freedoms that we do.  I know that every opportunity that i have or had to take in a game at wesley or play, i always looked up at that flag and knew what it represented.  For all those remembering Pearl Harbor, and those mourning the deaths of the recent mall killings.  Remember this that this sat. and next sat are extremely special.  Its not only a chance to play a game that you love, no its also a chance to show that as a country we respect those who gave their lives, and that we will play on because thats what we do in D3 we play for love of the game. Case and point no one can argue that.  Thank you to everyone this year was great, nice to meet the Stone station, "always next year" damn those Dodgers were optomistic.  Good luck to all this weekend and next MUC looks like another Championship to add to the old collection.  See you around posters, and remember why we listen to the anthem and look at a flag, then you will understand a small part of why we play D3 football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 08, 2007, 04:31:47 PM
well, it is set.  muc and uww.  a couple of things i take away from watching today's game.  the gap between uww and umhb is close.  both of those teams are senior loaded.  wesley showed it has the ability to stay with umhb, maybe even better without the turnovers.  wesley is very close to the top teams in the country and next year i think they will take another step forward and make it to the finals.  the offense returns all but clarke and the defense, minus robinson will have to play better team d.  as a wesley fan i am really excited about the prospects of next year.  the schedule will be demanding or at least i think it will be, but wesley will be better.  is anyone going to the stagg, we will be heading down friday evening.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on December 08, 2007, 08:49:27 PM
Weslydad,

Enjoy the Stagg Bowl. I look forward to meeting you next year, hopefully in Allentown, but, if necessary, down at "the ditch". We Mules got a taste of the playoffs this year and its like a fine wine, or a finer woman...it leaves you wanting just a little bit more........

Til then, God bless you, yours, and D3 football....the purest form of sport
in the world.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 09, 2007, 09:57:39 AM
muledaddy, we will meet somewhere.  i expect wesley to be very good next year so they will likely be playing home playoff games again.  bless you and your family and enjoy the offseason.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 14, 2007, 04:57:50 PM
Congrats to Wesley's Brian Robinson on being selected to A.P. Little All-American
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on December 14, 2007, 08:21:14 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 14, 2007, 04:57:50 PM
Congrats to Wesley's Brian Robinson on being selected to A.P. Little All-American

Since the bulk were DIV II players Brian Robinson gets and extra good job well done.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 14, 2007, 09:46:43 PM
I was looking for the full list but haven't found it. I did see a players  from UMHB ,Mount Union and UWW. Congrats to all who made it
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on December 15, 2007, 09:46:35 AM
the full list can be seen at this link:

www.msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7560222

hope it helps
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 15, 2007, 11:31:50 AM
old ends

Thanks 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 15, 2007, 05:43:07 PM
Well done Bryan Robinson.  What a great way to finish off your college career!! :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on December 16, 2007, 05:23:39 PM
wesley dad.... brother... your son has a cannon for an arm

me and the boy were watching him throw to k-mack and others... wow

it was great seeing u...and i believe u r correct..yall r not far at all from the 2 we saw playing yesturday

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 16, 2007, 06:43:00 PM
af4, it was nice meeting you and your son.  good luck next year.  yea, he can throw a little bit.  after watching wesley play umhb and turn the ball over 5 times, then watch umhb give uww all it could handle, then watch uww control the game against muc, it is hard for me not to think that wesley is close.  they return the entire offense minus clark.  d will have to replace robinson, but could this end up being like uww after kleppe, better overall d.  if they are to make it to the next level they have to fix the fumble problem next year.  jason came away realizing that they are close and i hope he will send that message to the rest of the team.  enjoy the holidays.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 18, 2007, 11:00:35 AM
 Well, Wesley winds up 5th ranked for the end of season.  ;)  Pretty dang good considering they wound up 7th last year after reaching the semis and 10th before that.  Well done Wolverines!  You guys did one heck of a excellent job this year!  I sure can't wait for next season!!    ;D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 19, 2007, 09:56:17 AM
Helps to be competitive in the final game, to be sure.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 19, 2007, 11:11:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 19, 2007, 09:56:17 AM
Helps to be competitive in the final game, to be sure.

Very interesting.  Listening to the podcast in the conversation between you guys, I was surprised that one of the folks mentioned that he wanted to vote MU as 3rd ranked (and was understandibly rebuffed by Keith).  I see this mentality in the BCS as well.  Whoever loses last gets burned the worst even if it lost to a higher ranked team than the team that eventually passes it in the rankings.  I don't understand the logic. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Oil Can on December 19, 2007, 11:30:40 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 19, 2007, 11:11:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 19, 2007, 09:56:17 AM
Helps to be competitive in the final game, to be sure.

Very interesting.  Listening to the podcast in the conversation between you guys, I was surprised that one of the folks mentioned that he wanted to vote MU as 3rd ranked (and was understandibly rebuffed by Keith).  I see this mentality in the BCS as well.  Whoever loses last gets burned the worst even if it lost to a higher ranked team than the team that eventually passes it in the rankings.  I don't understand the logic. 

-Ski

You used logic and BCS in the same post ;D :D ;D

Results of a common opponent a week apart gives good reason to consider UMHB as a viable #2 ahead of MUC.  I wouldn't make that call, but I can see the logic.  Plus, the same results, subsequent to the South Region final, put Wesley in a good light
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 19, 2007, 11:56:20 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 19, 2007, 11:11:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 19, 2007, 09:56:17 AM
Helps to be competitive in the final game, to be sure.

Very interesting.  Listening to the podcast in the conversation between you guys, I was surprised that one of the folks mentioned that he wanted to vote MU as 3rd ranked (and was understandibly rebuffed by Keith).  I see this mentality in the BCS as well.  Whoever loses last gets burned the worst even if it lost to a higher ranked team than the team that eventually passes it in the rankings.  I don't understand the logic. 

-Ski

That was me, and I think I've laid out my feelings fairly well already, but I'll repeat:

Just because you lose last doesn't mean you're the second-best team. There were three teams head and shoulders above the rest and UMHB played the best team twice. No surprise they lost both times, right? Who's to say UMHB isn't better than Mount Union, and isn't that what we're ranking, who is the best team? Only the No. 1 team is determined truly on the field. Those who do not beat all comers are subject to scrutiny for exactly who they played to get where they did in the tournament (if they got there) and how they did when they played them.

Based on the data, I voted for UMHB ahead of MUC and others did as well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 19, 2007, 02:36:12 PM
pat, i agree with you.  wesley was rightfully dropped based on their performance in 2 semis, they were not automatically placed 4th as some would suggest.  this year they played what some believe to be the 2nd best team in the country fairly even and were rewarded for that by being voted 5th.  this is the same thing that happened last year with sjf.  i find it interesting that so many question the logic behind comparing teams against common opponents.  i watched the uww/umhb game on the internet, not the greatest view.  i also saw umhb play wesley live and the stagg bowl.  i came away with the same assessment, that umhb played uww much tougher than muc did and would have had no argument with umhb being voted 2nd.  voting is subjective, and open to debate, but to just dismiss one team because the other team was ranked higher is not being objective.  it seems to me that muc posters say they dont care unless they win it all, but they sure are making a stink about any suggestion that they were not 2nd best.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 19, 2007, 03:43:00 PM
I am looking at this too simplisticly I guess, hehehe....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on December 19, 2007, 07:56:53 PM
pa_wesleyfan:

The article on the John Hopkins player----rips your heart out...thanks for sharing. You should post the link in Div III in the press.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 19, 2007, 09:47:56 PM
Quote from: old ends on December 19, 2007, 07:56:53 PM
pa_wesleyfan:

The article on the John Hopkins player----rips your heart out...thanks for sharing. You should post the link in Div III in the press.

Old ends

I put it in the articles about DIII  players in the general section.
The story doesn't touch too much on the fact that he worked with the children in Iraq. There was a second soldier from Doylestown who was killed three days before Colby,(Travis Manion) which was mentioned in the story and they both really into helping the Iraqi kids get school supplies.     
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Oil Can on December 20, 2007, 07:50:39 AM
wesleydad and others,

Our friend Andrew Reed posted about his trip to Salem on his Road Games blog...I think he had a good time!  Enjoy and Happy Holidays to the Wesley faithful (and others!)

http://roadgames07.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on December 22, 2007, 07:08:41 PM
Happy Holidays to all !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 24, 2007, 12:43:19 PM
Happy Holidays to all the fans of the ACFC football  and to all the poster and non posters (you know who you are) ;) from Wesley who make for a good game experience. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: evacuee on December 28, 2007, 02:11:00 PM
If you want to promote division 3 sports, do a google search for pontiac game changing performance and vote for the only d3 play that will likely be seen there for a long time.  We only have a few days left and Appalachain State is currently in the lead. 

A vote for Trinity is a vote for d3football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 31, 2007, 06:15:03 PM
HAPPY NEW YEAR to all.  Here's to a healthy and happy year to come.

Wesleydad keeping your son in our thoughts.


NNAsid hope your seasons are all going as planned.


Conrad get me that email please. I tried two different ones taht didn't work..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on December 31, 2007, 06:33:56 PM
To all have a safe and Happy New Year !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on January 02, 2008, 07:54:00 PM
pawesleyfan, thanks for remembering.  he left last friday for afghanistan.  he arrived safely and we hope it stays that way for the next 12 to 15 months.  happy new year to you and the rest of the wesley supporters out there.  only 7.5 months until the wolverines make a serious run for the whole thing. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 07, 2008, 07:08:55 PM
 Congrats to Wesley for receiving the Lambert/Meadowlands trophy as the best DIII in the East.  Annually given to one team from each division that participate in the ECAC. Other winners DI W Va DIAA Delaware and DII Cal Pa. This the first time Wesley has be gievn this award.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on January 07, 2008, 10:49:22 PM
Good to here that about Wesley. Nice award for the school to receive. May the success continue.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 07, 2008, 11:23:14 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on January 07, 2008, 07:08:55 PM
Congrats to Wesley for receiving the Lambert/Meadowlands trophy as the best DIII in the East.  Annually given to one team from each division that participate in the ECAC. Other winners DI W Va DIAA Delaware and DII Cal Pa. This the first time Wesley has be gievn this award.

Sweet!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on January 10, 2008, 06:35:18 PM
ECAC Southwest All-Stars can be seen at:
www.ecac.org

6 gentelmen from Wesley and a Defensive player of the year.

Congradulations to all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 10, 2008, 06:36:28 PM
Anybody know about when the 2008 schedules get posted?  I'm ready for another Wesley game!!!! The shakes are starting to set in already.  I'm in trouble....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 10, 2008, 06:41:29 PM
Quote from: old ends on January 10, 2008, 06:35:18 PM
ECAC Southwest All-Stars can be seen at:
www.ecac.org

6 gentelmen from Wesley and a Defensive player of the year.

Congradulations to all.

Booyeah!  Robinson does it again!  Well done!!

Thanks for the heads-up!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 10, 2008, 07:43:20 PM
ski

Wesley usually posts the new schedule early summer. Last I heard they were still looking for a 10th game. May is usually the preseason golf outing and that's when I get it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 11, 2008, 05:30:57 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on January 10, 2008, 07:43:20 PM
ski

Wesley usually posts the new schedule early summer. Last I heard they were still looking for a 10th game. May is usually the preseason golf outing and that's when I get it.

Thanks.  It will be really interesting to see the line-up.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on January 11, 2008, 08:02:03 PM
Any news on the upcoming, incoming freshman? I know that it is not National Signing day, but sometimes people find out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on January 14, 2008, 08:03:04 PM
Teamski and PaWesleyfan,

The College of New Jersey just bailed out on us Mules and we are looking for a
replacement game. How about briging the Wolverines to Allentown for a little
early season fracas?
I think we would have a really good motivation to get better in summer camp
if we knew we were coming out to face a team with the quality shown by the Wolverines. I don't  think the experience would hurt Wesley either.
THIS WOULD BE THE OBVIOUS YEAR FOR IT SINCE BOTH TEAMS ARE COMING OFF TOP TEN RANKINGS.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 14, 2008, 10:32:30 PM
muledaddy

the dates have to match up first and foremost. I am sure Coach Drass would take a home an home.

   the Col of NJ just picked up two more conference games with Morrisville and BPort moving in this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 14, 2008, 10:43:03 PM
Muhlenberg shouldn't have been surprised. With the expansion of the NJAC by two teams there are significantly fewer non-conference games for their teams to schedule.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 14, 2008, 10:43:38 PM
Yes, what he said.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on January 15, 2008, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 14, 2008, 10:43:03 PM
Muhlenberg shouldn't have been surprised. With the expansion of the NJAC by two teams there are significantly fewer non-conference games for their teams to schedule.


amen there....scheduling is a bear right now for everyone in this conference :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 15, 2008, 04:36:51 PM
Wesley MUST be in straights right now since there are only 4 teams in the ACFC.  However, it has been Coach Drass' cross to bear all along.  It must be nice to be in an Auto-bid conference since it simplifies things quite a bit.....  I agree, another game with Muhlenberg would be neat to see.  It definately wouldn't hurt Wesley, that's for sure.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on January 16, 2008, 11:24:44 AM
I think it would be beneficial if the ACFC and Centennial Conference would match up in the regular season. I know its difficult for the CC because they only play two out of conference games, but with two programs in MD and the rest of the conference located in PA it would make sense for travel purposes. Not to mention, a Muhlenberg-Wesley matchup in the regular season or a Salisbury-Dickinson game would be worth while. I think the playoffs this year proved how exciting the games can be.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on January 16, 2008, 04:58:24 PM
XSUGULL,

You have a good point; the geography and the opprtunity to experience each
other's talent makes sense.

I saw that Wesley is open for 9/6 and immediately notified Mules coach, indicating
that I believe this early season matchup would benefit both teams.Let's wait and see what happens.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on January 16, 2008, 08:24:15 PM
Not only Muhlenberg and Dickinson, but Ursinus is looking for a game since losing Lasalle.

The Centennial could only help itself by playing teams that have a tougher schedule overall.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on January 17, 2008, 09:52:44 AM
Traditionaly I know that McDaniel tends to play Bridgewater as one of its out-of-conference games, I think it would be interesting if they played one of the Maryland schools as well. McDaniel and Salisbury scrimmage each other each season and it would be nice if they could turn that into a regular season matchup. If not McDaniel-SU then possibly McDaniel-FSU. I know those schools are fairly close to each other.

If these two conferences begin to play each other it could open doors for recruiting as well. Although I understand that the winning program would have an edge on recruitment, it would certainly make for some exciting games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on January 17, 2008, 10:40:16 PM
i have enjoyed tlaking to many of yall...and Lord willing will b back

but... Huntingdon now belongs to the SLIAC in football, and the SLIAC has a new site (thanks to the diligence of Pat Coleman) on the North board

wesleydad .... see u around buddy....holler if u need me and the boy in another 'u vs mount union' buffer zone   ;D

Hawks 88....where r u buddy

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 18, 2008, 08:41:47 PM
Quote from: AF4 on January 17, 2008, 10:40:16 PM
i have enjoyed tlaking to many of yall...and Lord willing will b back

but... Huntingdon now belongs to the SLIAC in football, and the SLIAC has a new site (thanks to the diligence of Pat Coleman) on the North board

wesleydad .... see u around buddy....holler if u need me and the boy in another 'u vs mount union' buffer zone   ;D

Hawks 88....where r u buddy

keep the faith

Geez, you make it sound like you are banished to a nunnery in Katmandu, hehehehe!!  See you in the general section sometime... ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on January 18, 2008, 09:12:40 PM
Geez, you make it sound like you are banished to a nunnery in Katmandu, hehehehe!!  See you in the general section sometime...

-Ski

possibly worse... i live in chambers county alabama

yall do well next yr

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 31, 2008, 05:26:30 PM
...... So I'm reading an article on the internet. This guy McMillan or somebody says, "The highest-ranked team that returns much of its starting lineup, including most of the key cogs? Wesley, which ranked fifth in the final poll. Dare I say preseason No. 1?" 

Now, I says to myself, "That would be something, huh?"  Here's hoping you're right!!  ;)  Only time will tell.  I sure can't wait! 

-Ski 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on January 31, 2008, 05:56:03 PM
Dear Ski,

I read the same comment and would like to see it come true, a preseason 1 pick for Wesley.Mules had 14 seniors graduate, have entire offense , except 1, plus strong  defensive nucleus returning, and look forwad to a repeat game (or 2) against wesley, adjustments to be made on the basis of the eir 2nd round meeting
38-21 loss last Fall. I like the Wolverines, their coach, their fans, and would love to see them in Allentown on 9/6, an open date for both teams.
Same author said preseason pick Mules 108, postseason pick 8.....things can get
better, but not much....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 01, 2008, 03:41:20 PM
It definately would be a spirited rematch, that's for sure!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on February 04, 2008, 06:23:37 PM

Ski,


If its going to happen, it will be in the playoffs.Mules just signed Wilkes for 9/6 weekend. Hoping to

see the Wolverines in November.




Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on February 05, 2008, 04:00:47 PM
Here is to hoping that Salisbury is back playing meaningful games in November. With all the talent returning, it is time the Sea Gulls get a couple two or three wins in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 06, 2008, 06:18:52 PM
Quote from: muledaddy on February 04, 2008, 06:23:37 PM

Ski,


If its going to happen, it will be in the playoffs.Mules just signed Wilkes for 9/6 weekend. Hoping to

see the Wolverines in November.



We'll see you there, hehehehe.....   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 06, 2008, 06:22:13 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on February 05, 2008, 04:00:47 PM
Here is to hoping that Salisbury is back playing meaningful games in November. With all the talent returning, it is time the Sea Gulls get a couple two or three wins in the playoffs.

If SU can mix up their offensive play calling a little more, they will continue to be potent.  I take it that Sheehan will be back next season?  Once Wesley dialed in their predictable counter plays, the offense stopped being productive,  especially after Sheehan got hurt.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on February 07, 2008, 09:14:57 AM
Predictable play calling...maybe, but when you run an option offense that is what you are going to get. Its all about execution and over the last two/three years Wesley has done a fairly good job of slowing down SU's rushing attack.

I would like to think Sheahin is coming back, he was only a junior last year, and he does add a good dimension to the offense. However, don't count out Ronnie Curley's ability to throw the football. He has a cannon for an arm and pretty good accuracy. The one thing that has been the achilles heal to Salisbury's passing game is the protection. I'm sure 'muledaddy' will tell you that from the playoff game this year.

Regardless, Salisbury is going to run the football and then run the football some more and after that, run the football even more. If they can be effective off the play action pass, they could very well be playing those meaningful games in November.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 09, 2008, 08:35:31 AM
Quote from: XSUGull on February 07, 2008, 09:14:57 AM
Predictable play calling...maybe, but when you run an option offense that is what you are going to get. Its all about execution and over the last two/three years Wesley has done a fairly good job of slowing down SU's rushing attack.

I would like to think Sheahin is coming back, he was only a junior last year, and he does add a good dimension to the offense. However, don't count out Ronnie Curley's ability to throw the football. He has a cannon for an arm and pretty good accuracy. The one thing that has been the achilles heal to Salisbury's passing game is the protection. I'm sure 'muledaddy' will tell you that from the playoff game this year.

Regardless, Salisbury is going to run the football and then run the football some more and after that, run the football even more. If they can be effective off the play action pass, they could very well be playing those meaningful games in November.

If Curley had an arm, he didn't show it in the Wesley game.  Again, I have only seen Salisbury play that one time, so my perception maybe a bit off.  If protection is the problem, then they really need to find a way to work on a good series of screens.  In the game I watched, they seemed to just run into a wall, run into a wall, and then run into a wall.  Without a doubt, whether you have that huge punishing running back or not, success is based on a balanced offense with 3 to 4 weapons.  It's been a boon for Wesley these past few years.  The best way to keep the defense in check is simply to mix it up, keeping them unsettled.  Wesley had no problem keeping the defense stacked up close to the line because they knew what was coming.  You won't win games that way....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on February 11, 2008, 09:10:42 AM
Ski -  Balance on offense is a key to success and when you look at Salisbury's option offense, balance for them is a little different than that of a pro-style offense. You said you saw the Wesley-Salisbury game this year so you saw SU run for about 275, which is pretty good considering how strong of a defense Wesley has. Also, don't forget that Curley had a 40-yard TD pass dropped in the endzone. Sometimes we tend to forget those facts when we just look at stats. Still, balance is needed. SU might not have the balance of a 30-30 run to pass ratio, but being more effective off play action is necessary.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 12, 2008, 05:31:35 AM
Quote from: XSUGull on February 11, 2008, 09:10:42 AM
Ski -  Balance on offense is a key to success and when you look at Salisbury's option offense, balance for them is a little different than that of a pro-style offense. You said you saw the Wesley-Salisbury game this year so you saw SU run for about 275, which is pretty good considering how strong of a defense Wesley has. Also, don't forget that Curley had a 40-yard TD pass dropped in the endzone. Sometimes we tend to forget those facts when we just look at stats. Still, balance is needed. SU might not have the balance of a 30-30 run to pass ratio, but being more effective off play action is necessary.

I forgot about that dropped ball.  Good point.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on February 12, 2008, 08:45:17 AM
Wesley dropped one in the end zone too in that game on a drive they didn't score on.

At any rate, I think Curley is an excellent leader and tough kid. I seem to remember him hitting Morris for a couple of big plays. At the same time, throwing the football is not Salisbury's thing. You are not going to be very good at it if you don't do it a whole lot.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on February 12, 2008, 09:04:15 AM
I agree Conrad, if throwing is not your "thing" then you won't be very successful at doing it. It would be like taking a spread, pass happy, offense and asking them to grind out yards on the ground. Salisbury's M.O. is running the ball and their idea of balance is different ways of running the ball, spreading the carries among all the backs and then maybe catch a defense off guard with a pass.

Regardless, I think the SU-Wesley rivalry is as strong as ever...even though the Wolves have taken the last three games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on February 13, 2008, 10:58:33 AM
Any word from Bobcat land on when they will be announcing a new coach?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 13, 2008, 06:06:29 PM
Conrad

  I got that e-mail address.  Looks like the same old story NOONE wants to play Wesley. But that first game should be good one... I hope that they have a home and home agreement to ease the scheduling for '09 and that would bring a quality oppponent to Dover. I wounder if maybe Wesley and the other ACFC schools may not have to go separate ways to get into conferences?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on February 13, 2008, 09:47:43 PM
pawesley, how r u doing?  do you have some info on the schedule.  i have not heard anything and jason has not said anything is final yet.  only thing i know is that we are flying to fla at the end of oct. to play, i think an naia school, cant think of the name at this time.  at the banquet, i was told that they were waiting for some confirmations to fill the schedule.  just think, only 6 months and the boys will be putting on the pads to get ready for what should be another strong run for the title, national that is.  hope u and ur dad are doing well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 13, 2008, 10:27:03 PM
wesleydad

A couple of DII teams released their schedules that I saw. You will get to see a few states this year. I think we hit six states my sons senior year. Are they flying to Fla.?Webber college?
I know that Del-Val is less than 10 minutes from my home, so I get a home game ... ;D. Ithaca and St Johns Fisher said no to games though neither would be a regional game it would have been interesting to see them. Wesley and Salisbury are playing a few of the same teams.

  How is your wrestling season going? Sectionals start this week so I will be getting some bleacher #$@ the next few weeks :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 13, 2008, 10:41:04 PM
Thanks for the updates.  It sure looks like the 2008 season will have quite a few twists to it for Wesley.   :P

-SKi
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Frostie on February 14, 2008, 02:12:49 PM
I heard a rumor that Frostburg may be restarting their coach search.  Somethings about the first group they had in being too expensive?  Anybody hear anything that confirms or refutes this.  I was also expecting to hear something about the coach by now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on February 15, 2008, 09:25:24 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Coach Stevenson became the AD at Frostburg State. Do you think he is still helping with recruiting while they hunt for a head coach? I'm sure not having a head coach hurts the recruiting process a little.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on February 15, 2008, 08:23:31 PM
He's an Assistant AD unless something has changed since end of the season
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 16, 2008, 10:32:19 PM
nnasid
you are correct . their website says he is stepping down as coach
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Frostie on February 19, 2008, 02:03:09 PM
Coach Steveson has indeed stepped down, the job was posted and I know that they had candidates in either the last week of January or the first week of February.  The players were invited to go and speak with the candidates.  Though I thought someone would be named by now, I guess it's really not that long of a time.  I believe that the assistant coaches are working recruiting.

By the way is there any word on changes to the ACFC, four teams is awfully low to call a conference.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on February 21, 2008, 04:04:26 PM
Man....I miss football- any word on the Gulls for this year? I heard they had a few quality transfers, but may lose Valdase Morris for a season due to some eligiblity problem.  I also heard the starting superback, Ronnie Shockley, may not come back. They are always deep at the running back positions but those 2 guys being gone would hurt.......I'm still hoping for the big "W" against Wesley @ home this season...GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on February 21, 2008, 08:26:50 PM
PA_wesleyfan,

I hear you boys are going to NY. Iona is on your schedule. They have been run over by some D3 teams and also knocked some off. We have played them, I think 5+times and MSU holds the edge, but be careful. They could bite you in the but. I know MSU needs an out of conference game. Is Wesley coming to Montclair to try to even the score?

Hope all is well and you had a great new year !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 21, 2008, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on February 21, 2008, 08:26:50 PM
PA_wesleyfan,

I hear you boys are going to NY. Iona is on your schedule. They have been run over by some D3 teams and also knocked some off. We have played them, I think 5+times and MSU holds the edge, but be careful. They could bite you in the but. I know MSU needs an out of conference game. Is Wesley coming to Montclair to try to even the score?

Hope all is well and you had a great new year !!!

  rams1102
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 21, 2008, 09:43:31 PM
rams1102

I understand that last years game was a one year fix. Would have been nice for Wesley's scheduling woes. I understand that the Wolverines have ten games, four of which are not DIII,one of which is Iona. They open in Va. at Christopher Newport. The schedule hasn't been officially released, so I don't know if any other changes could be made.
I know that they had only three home games on the tentative schedule. But the Del Val game is right around the corner from me so I will get to that game for sure.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Frostie on February 22, 2008, 09:27:44 AM
Well it appears that Frostburg is restarting their coaching search.  This appeared today on footballscoop.com.  Has a March 7th deadline.

Frostburg State University is seeking a full-time Head Football Coach.  This is a 12 month appointment with USM benefits package.  RESPONSIBILITIES:  This position will be responsible for the overall success, performance, and conduct of the football program. This person will assign duties and supervise coaching staff. Recruit, retain and graduate academically successful student-athletes. Promote the football program through public relations activities, alumni and friends of football relationships.   Candidates must demonstrate a commitment to overall departmental philosophy.  MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS:  Applicants must possess 3-5 years previous coaching experience as a coordinator at the collegiate level.  Bachelor's degree required.  PREFERRED QUALIFICATIONS: Head Coach or Assistant Head Coach experience at the collegiate level.  Master's degree preferred.  To apply, send letter of interest, resume, and the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of three professional references by March 7, 2008, to: Frostburg State University, Office of Human Resources, ATTN: Head Football Coach Search (Position #08-010220)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on February 22, 2008, 01:35:29 PM
SU Backer - If you are correct that Valdase Morris and Ronnie Shockley aren't going to be playing next year then the Sea Gull offense is going to take a hit. Yes they are always deep at the running back position but both of those guys bring experience to their positions. Morris was supposed to be the top slot returning while Shockley was the top superback. Good news is that youth got alot of time last year and that could prove to be beneficial. William Midgett is a slot that went to High School with Morris and he will more than likely be the top threat from the slot position going into the spring. Shelby Fisher brings three years of experience at the superback position to the team but there are questions to whether he is an every-down back. Although he isn't going to out run anyone he certain has the power to run someone over.

The good news is that Ronnie Curley will return with a wealth of talent and experience at WR. Kevin Tillage is back which keeps the deep threat an option (as I mentioned in an earlier post, as long as the QB has time). Also, the offensive line brings back three of the five starters from last year.

Of course I haven't heard, and I certainly hope you are incorrect, anything about Morris and Shockley not playing this year. With or without those two players SU's offense is no secret. Option right, option left.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on February 22, 2008, 06:12:27 PM
   XSU......I hope I am wrong about Morris and Shockley, but you are right on the money about Curley - he is the one that makes the offense go. He does a very good job running the option and is a tough player which is not an "option" in their offense.  Tillage is very good at the receiver spot and I have heard that the offense will be expanding the passing game in the future to boot. I like Fisher @ superback too, I thought there was no drop-off when he entered the game, in fact I think he could dominate with his D1 size at that position.
  I think the defense will be stout again, but Wesley's QB has a year under his belt and a tremendous arm so that game is going to be a hell of a battle....but it is on our turf!
  Any word on SU's schedule for '08? I'm guessing they will open with Albright on the road, they'll find out how good their pass defense is in a hurry 'cause the QB there -Kelly - is probably as good as Schatz.
   Games under the lights this year! GO GULLS
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 22, 2008, 06:33:40 PM
Su & XSU

You are playing Lake Erie 10/18 in Salisbury.They are a new DII program this year.
Wesley and NNA are playing them also. You also have Christopher Newport 9/20 in Salisbury
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on February 22, 2008, 06:54:45 PM
Playing a non div III school could come back to hurt some of schools if push comes to shove for playoffs. It is a shame that other DIV III schools could not work out a game. ACFC need to increase the teams in the conference. Hopefully they can add some soon.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 22, 2008, 07:23:34 PM
old ends

Wesley tried to get games with a couple of New York schools but got NO responses.. Those games would not have been regional games but would have been good ones... Looking at some of the schedules I have noticed a few DIII schools playing non DIII schools..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 24, 2008, 09:17:44 AM
When was the last time Wesley played a non DIII school?  I agree playing non-DIII teams can hurt in the long run.  Whitewater's loss to St Cloud State early in the year lost it a few spots in the rankings even though it was a DII school.

So, where can I find who Wesley is playing this next year??  I take it that the schedule hasn't been finalized..... ???

It's amazing how difficult it is to find good games.  If you don't get the schedule right, you can almost write-off a Pool B bid.  I'd hate to be in the coach's shoes right now.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 24, 2008, 09:55:19 AM
ski

Wesley has played a lot of non DIII schools over the years. NNA athough a member of the ACFC is not a recognised DIII school. Wesley has played D1A Butler and a few NAII schools. To fill their schedule they have bussed (17 hrs)to Wisconsin and Indianapolis, played in Florida. One year they played teams from 7 different states. This year I understand they will be on the road 7 times. Teams just won't play them.. It's tough when you have to pick up 7 non conference games with the other conferences only having one or two open dates they tend to stay with close rivalries.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on February 24, 2008, 10:09:51 AM
7 games-- That poor AD is going nuts trying to get those games filled. No wonder they have to schedule DIV II and 1A ( sorry champinship div.).

Are they looking for other schools to join the conference?? Oo are they looking to leave the conference???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 24, 2008, 10:27:35 AM
Wow, that is crazy......  You can almost see the writing on the wall for the ACFC if they can't attract additional members.  I didn't realize that NNA isn't DIII! 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 24, 2008, 10:44:50 AM
ski

NNAsid can explain why they aren't ncaa recognised. I have an idea why but I am not sure.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on February 24, 2008, 04:54:04 PM
we are recognized...but not a full member.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 24, 2008, 05:10:33 PM
Quote from: nnasid on February 24, 2008, 04:54:04 PM
we are recognized...but not a full member.


reason?

SID

how about we start a petition???  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on March 04, 2008, 08:48:14 AM
I don't think it will be that easy ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on March 07, 2008, 03:03:46 PM
I heard Salisbury is traveling to St. John Fisher this year. Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on March 07, 2008, 11:03:55 PM
 it is true....they are heading to SJF this year
GO GULLS
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on March 08, 2008, 08:17:57 AM
Now that will be a great game!!  It will be a very interesting match-up. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on March 08, 2008, 12:00:11 PM
Team and SU.

Sounds like a great game,go gulls.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on March 30, 2008, 08:52:18 PM
Has any of the teams in this conference posted the schedule's as of yet. Only 3 in the Centennial have so far. Dickinson, F & M  and John Hopkins.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on March 30, 2008, 08:58:31 PM
we are about to.  just waiting on a contract back from one school.
Frostburg's is posted already.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on March 31, 2008, 06:45:39 AM
here is the link for Salisbury's schedule

http://www.suseagulls.com/sports/fball/2008-09/schedule
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 01, 2008, 05:15:18 PM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on March 31, 2008, 06:45:39 AM
here is the link for Salisbury's schedule

http://www.suseagulls.com/sports/fball/2008-09/schedule


It looks like a nicely balanced schedule between home and away games.  The SJ Fisher game should be a really good one!  I hope to see Wesley's schedule before long.

I know I will be there for the Wesley/Salisbury game for sure!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on April 03, 2008, 03:15:56 PM
Wow, that Salisbury schedule is a grinder; Albright away- Kelly is as good as Schatz, with just a little less arm strength-this is no gimme at all.....Geneva was a war up there last year and I am sure they will want some payback-tough game number 2.........Chris Newport-enuff said......Delaware Valley....gonna be real tough to beat them 3 times in a row, especially at their house....Newport News away is not a easy one, as I have watched them over the years and they are right there athlete wise.......then onto St. John Fisher in New York-SU will know by this game if they can play with a team of this calibur-hopefully as good as we SU backers want them to be.......I think Lake Erie is a new D2 program so I don't know-but they are scheduled for homecoming ;-)......Becker-if the same QB is there this could break 100 pts total.....ah, then our "friends" from Dover come to the 'bury-as tough as it gets!.......and finish at the Naval Academy against Frostburg who will be with a new staff and always plays their best game against us!  All in all a schedule that will get us in the playoffs with 1 or maybe even 2 losses, with that lineup, but we could end up on the outside looking in just as easily.....anyway GO GULLS!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on April 04, 2008, 01:47:13 PM
I agree with SU Backer, this isn't a roll over schedule by any stretch of the imagination. I think the first true test for Salisbury will be the visit from Christopher Newport. We haven't had too much luck playing them on our own turf but hopefully we will be able to turn the tide. That 2004 playoff loss still hurts and the game in 2006 wasn't too much better. I think the September 20 game against the Captains will let the Sea Gulls know where they stand. Delaware Valley is another difficult game. Salisbury handled them fairly easily last year and with the win in the '06 ECAC Bowl game DVC is going to be out for some revenge.

Of course the two big games that really jump out at you are St. John Fisher and Wesley. SJF is a great chance for SU to see how they stack up against perennial powers. Wesley is Wesley and that will always be a tough game.

Then of course the regular-season wraps up with Frostburg.

This could be a very entertaining year in Sea Gull Country as well as the ACFC in general.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Frostie on April 07, 2008, 10:39:23 AM
Frostburg has finally named a new coach - Tom Rogish.  He was the linebacker/special teams coach at Shepherd, and was previously the defensive coordinator and associate head coach at Indiana University of Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on April 07, 2008, 01:11:50 PM
I know that Ernie McCook was previously with Frostburg State before he went to Shepard and I wonder if he was in consideration for the job. Looking at some information on Tom Rogish his resume looks rather impressive. He is a former All-American linebacker at Indiana University of Pennsylvania and coached there from 1986 to 2005. I don't know too much about the tradition of IUP football but its good to see the Bobcats finally named a coach.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Frostie on April 08, 2008, 09:33:23 AM
I did hear the Ernie McCook was interviewed, but I've also heard that several colleges have tried to lure him away from Shepherd over the years all to no avail.

My son tells me that Rogish met with the team last night and seems like a real good guy.  My son is jazzed up again about playing for him.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 08, 2008, 04:17:45 PM
I understand that there were four or five very good coaches that were lined up to interview for the job.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on April 09, 2008, 06:36:17 AM
Article on SU's schedule and the difficulty in filling it.

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080409/SPORTS/804090387
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on April 09, 2008, 09:30:18 AM
I can understand the difficulty in scheduling, especially when you only have four teams in your conference. Trying to find seven out-of-conference games can't be easy. It was nice when Brockport and Buffalo State were in the conference. The conference actually had five ACFC games, but I can understand the departure of those NY schools. It just doesn't make sense geographically for them to compete in a conference with a Delaware, Virginia and two Maryland schools.

I know this has probably come up several times on the boards, but is expanding the conference in the near future? I am sure the current ACFC members would love to steal a Virginia school or two to add to the conference.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 09, 2008, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: XSUGull on April 09, 2008, 09:30:18 AM
I can understand the difficulty in scheduling, especially when you only have four teams in your conference. Trying to find seven out-of-conference games can't be easy. It was nice when Brockport and Buffalo State were in the conference. The conference actually had five ACFC games, but I can understand the departure of those NY schools. It just doesn't make sense geographically for them to compete in a conference with a Delaware, Virginia and two Maryland schools.

I know this has probably come up several times on the boards, but is expanding the conference in the near future? I am sure the current ACFC members would love to steal a Virginia school or two to add to the conference.
Actually there are no D-III schools in Virginia to steal.  Here are my thoughts on the challenges faced by the ACFC schools.

Post # 73 (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4729.60)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on April 10, 2008, 10:35:46 AM
Here is my thought:

Frostburg could join the Pennsylvania Athletic Conference giving the PAC 10 teams. Just to keep things easy we could call it the PAC-10.

NNA could join the USAC for location reasons and to give that conference a 10th member.

Salisbury and Wesley could each join the New Jersey Athletic Conference to give the NJAC 10 members. I do have an issue with schools from out of the state of New Jersey being in that conference, but I am just brainstorming.

I have noticed that a lot of the conferences have nine members and schools typically play a maximum of eight conference games. Even if a conference has 10 members they would still only play eight games which would leave two open dates. Salisbury and Frostburg could still engage in the Regents Cup which would leave those two schools with only one open date to fill rather than seven.

I know it's a lot more difficult than just picking up and starting over in a new conference but this would give the former ACFC members the automatic bid opportunity.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Frostie on April 10, 2008, 11:38:46 AM
I didn't know that the Pennsylvania Athletic Conference did football, although certainly some of the schools do.  Shenandoah is an affiliate member for lacrosse - but I don't knwo where they play football at the moment.

I would not at all be surprised to see the ACFC dissolve in 2009.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on April 10, 2008, 11:59:18 AM
I dont think the PAC has football.  Shenandoah plays in it for lacrosse, but in the USASouth for everything else.

NNA in the USA South.....two chances......slim and none and slim just signed off   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on April 10, 2008, 01:09:36 PM
I apologize...PAC is President's Athletic Conference, not Pennsylvania. I just saw PAC, looked at the members and assumed it was called Pennsylvania Athletic Conference.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on April 27, 2008, 07:36:22 PM
hey all, hope all is well with everyone.  just got word that brob signed a free agent contract with the arizona cards.  brob, good luck in your efforts to play at the next level.  work hard and leave nothing to chance, who knows what the future holds, but be in control of it.  go wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 27, 2008, 08:44:32 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on April 27, 2008, 07:36:22 PM
hey all, hope all is well with everyone.  just got word that brob signed a free agent contract with the arizona cards.  brob, good luck in your efforts to play at the next level.  work hard and leave nothing to chance, who knows what the future holds, but be in control of it.  go wolverines.

here's a link to the release  http://athletics.wesley.edu/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.viewHDetail&newsid=679
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on April 28, 2008, 01:22:39 PM
Congratulations to Bryan Robinson. Byron Westbrook resigned with the Washington Redskins at the end of last year so that puts two ACFC alums on preseason NFL rosters.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 28, 2008, 07:32:09 PM
Here I get on to break the news and sure enough, I get trumped!  I hope Robinson can make it through training camp in into a playing position! 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on April 29, 2008, 07:52:18 AM

Just a note of sincere congratulations to B. Robinson for having gotten the chance. Best of luck.
give it your all, and the rest is up to God.I know my 195 lb Mule couldn't block you
when you spent most of the day in our backfield. It was obvious that you were the most special of a special  group of kids, the Wolverines. Show those pros you belong.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: repete on May 03, 2008, 09:31:44 PM

A nice pickup for Wesley ... a real-deal player from a great HS program.
(http://www.gazette.net/stories/043008/gaitspo205305_32357.shtml)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 04, 2008, 11:08:06 AM
repete

  Looks like a kid that turned it around a bit. If he can play I am sure he'll get some time. Will be tough with two 1000 rushers back.

Wesley has just three home games in 2008 and 6 in region games. Two tuff road games to start. At CNU and Del Val. They also play conference foes FSU and SSU on the road.   Iona, Webber International (FLA), Lake Erie (all on the road)and Conference foe NNA are non region games. Widener and Gallaudet

NNASid

The Builders are homecoming again this year.



 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on May 05, 2008, 08:10:23 AM
Yeah...I spoke to Coach Drass a couple weeks ago about that.  We're going at 1:15 that day with both you and Del State having homecoming that day.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on May 06, 2008, 03:31:21 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 04, 2008, 11:08:06 AM
repete

  Looks like a kid that turned it around a bit. If he can play I am sure he'll get some time. Will be tough with two 1000 rushers back.

Wesley has just three home games in 2008 and 6 in region games. Two tuff road games to start. At CNU and Del Val. They also play conference foes FSU and SSU on the road.   Iona, Webber International (FLA), Lake Erie (all on the road)and Conference foe NNA are non region games. Widener and Gallaudet

NNASid

The Builders are homecoming again this year.



 

Wow, that is going be rough!!!  It really shows how tough it was for coach Drass to have to settle for a road schedule like that.  It will be a true test of the Wolverines' mettle!!  I'll have to see what I can do about getting to some of the away games.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 28, 2008, 08:53:09 PM
 Ski

The Salisbury game is an easy trip for you. And if things shake out could be for a bid to the playoffs. The Del Val game is a two hr trip from  Dover 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on May 29, 2008, 09:11:45 PM
Wesley / Salisbury / Frostburg / Fans,

You can talk about the 100 person roster and anything else you want, but the best thing to do is abolish the ACFC which will never get an AQ, and join the NJAC. You can make any negative  comment you want, but reality is what it is. We all know that Cortland or B-Port will jump from the NJAC to join the  E-8. They(E-8) need the AQ in 2009. Trust me it will happen. We do not need to get into the logistics, but we all know what needs to happen. The question is, will It?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 29, 2008, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on May 29, 2008, 09:11:45 PM
Wesley / Salisbury / Frostburg / Fans,

You can talk about the 100 person roster and anything else you want, but the best thing to do is abolish the ACFC which will never get an AQ, and join the NJAC. You can make any negative  comment you want, but reality is what it is. We all know that Cortland or B-Port will jump from the NJAC to join the  E-8. They(E-8) need the AQ in 2009. Trust me it will happen. We do not need to get into the logistics, but we all know what needs to happen. The question is, will It?

rams

I don't see it happening. The CAC does have 3 schools Wesley,Salisbury and Gallaudet with football, If Frostburg applies and gets in along with Villa Julia adding football thats 5 core members. Add NewPort News to the mix and grab two  new programs you end up with an auto bid.
  And the 100 roster limit does play into the equation. It's an economical necessity for some schools. Do the math. 30 to 50  or more players at 20k + . That's a whole lot of money for a private institution.
  Not only that but there has been some conjecture that the SUNY schools may all join together to create their own football conference. Then we have another mass movement from one league to another. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 30, 2008, 07:38:16 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 29, 2008, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on May 29, 2008, 09:11:45 PM
Wesley / Salisbury / Frostburg / Fans,

You can talk about the 100 person roster and anything else you want, but the best thing to do is abolish the ACFC which will never get an AQ, and join the NJAC. You can make any negative  comment you want, but reality is what it is. We all know that Cortland or B-Port will jump from the NJAC to join the  E-8. They(E-8) need the AQ in 2009. Trust me it will happen. We do not need to get into the logistics, but we all know what needs to happen. The question is, will It?

rams

I don't see it happening. The CAC does have 3 schools Wesley,Salisbury and Gallaudet with football, If Frostburg applies and gets in along with Villa Julia adding football thats 5 core members. Add NewPort News to the mix and grab two  new programs you end up with an auto bid.
  And the 100 roster limit does play into the equation. It's an economical necessity for some schools. Do the math. 30 to 50  or more players at 20k + . That's a whole lot of money for a private institution.
  Not only that but there has been some conjecture that the SUNY schools may all join together to create their own football conference. Then we have another mass movement from one league to another. 
pawesleyan, I respectfully disagree with your assertions about the CAC getting to the AQ in football.

We have heard nothing of Frostburg leaving the AMCC to join the CAC as a full member.  (The travel for the remaining 10-14 sports makes no sense at all.)

Gallaudet has been on probation in the CAC recently, and is looking to the North Atlantic Conference to join as a football affiliate.  From a sense of football success, I think that Gallaudet will have more success in football in the North Atlantic Conference, even with the travel, than playing against Wesley Salisbury and Frostburg.  From a CAC sense in keeping the 4 core members, they are not a consistent program on which to place the hopes of an AQ.

Newport News is an NCAA-affiliate member, not a full NCAA member.  They do not fill the requirements of the Capital AC.  I have not seen any legislation that says that NNA fills the requirement of a conference affiliate in football.

We haven't seen the anymore releases on the progress of VJC football.  (Please submits hyperlinks to any new reports.)

At this point, we have heard nothing from the Capital AC concerning adding football.  (The most recent conference meetings have concluded across the country.)

I have been the one outlining the thought that the SUNYAC could form the core members and attract the 3 affiliates, but now that the E-8 has opened the doors to SUNYAC schools, I think that that has pre-empted the need for the SUNYAC to add football.

Wesley may be caught in its dilemma of where to go and what to do. I understand the value of 30-50 more players playing football at Wesley.

I don't know where to find three more football affiliates.

Can you name three schools who might leave where they are now and join the CAC as football affiliates?

:D :D :D I double-dog dare ya!   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2008, 05:23:56 PM
Shenandoah and Christopher Newport if the GSAC's southern wing joins the USAC -- and Ralph, check your math or his math. He's not counting Newport News as a team for the AQ.

There's some value in banding together under the CAC banner rather than the ACFC banner anyway, I think, even if you're short of an AQ.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 30, 2008, 05:29:29 PM
Doggoneit.. ;D I lost my whole response... I re-respond later Ralph..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2008, 05:35:23 PM
If I were Tim Russert with the proverbial white board on election night, this is my "AQ math" to get the CAC to seven.

Wesley, Salisbury and Gallaudet are already in the league.
Frostburg is a fit geographically. There are no fits for this league philosophically, as it's all over the map.
Villa Julie is still talking positively about football, if not openly.
That's five core members, meaning Gallaudet's shaky football status is covered from that perspective.
If USA Great South goes through and the USAC's northern outliers don't want to travel to Huntingdon and LaGrange every other year in every sport, then Christopher Newport and Shenandoah are good additions for the CAC as full members.

This geography could, unfortunately, push York in a different direction, perhaps to the CSAC or if they can heal the bad feelings, the MAC.

I wonder if Hood, as a former women's school, is thinking about football?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 30, 2008, 05:45:42 PM
Pat

I have read that some of the PnAC, all non football playing schools, were moving to the MAC. I suppose that fills some of the other sports holes left by defections last year.
   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 30, 2008, 07:46:07 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2008, 05:35:23 PM
If I were Tim Russert with the proverbial white board on election night, this is my "AQ math" to get the CAC to seven.

Wesley, Salisbury and Gallaudet are already in the league.
Frostburg is a fit geographically. There are no fits for this league philosophically, as it's all over the map.
Villa Julie is still talking positively about football, if not openly.
That's five core members, meaning Gallaudet's shaky football status is covered from that perspective.
If USA Great South goes through and the USAC's northern outliers don't want to travel to Huntingdon and LaGrange every other year in every sport, then Christopher Newport and Shenandoah are good additions for the CAC as full members.

This geography could, unfortunately, push York in a different direction, perhaps to the CSAC or if they can heal the bad feelings, the MAC.

I wonder if Hood, as a former women's school, is thinking about football?
Great post, Pat.

York is not football, and York could move out of the Capital AC, in which Salisbury will likely dominate in baseball in Pool A, to another baseball conference where it could have a better chance of getting an AQ.  (As in basketball, Pool B is disappearing in baseball, too, but not as quickly.)

The question about Shenandoah and the ODAC is whether the ODAC's rejection letter said,

"Thank you for your kind inquiry for potential membership in our conference of like-minded institutions seeking to provide opportunities for student-athletes"

or

"Hello"  (oops forgot to add the letter "n"!)

I have assumed the former.  I wonder if it were the latter.

Hood would see the immediate benefit by adding football, if it wished to increase male enrollment. 

I did not elaborate for other posters on the impact of 30-50 more tuition paying males at Wesley.

30 males x $20,000 net revenue per male = $600,000.  If the Wesley budget is $30M, that is an extra 5%, which makes a huge difference in the extra programs across the spectrum that the school can add, and the administration and faculty know it.

In any case, the Capital AC should not count on Galluadet for the 7th total member unless there were significant re-assurances from the administration, IMHO, (which is why I was not counting Gallaudet towards the Capital AC conference in football.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2008, 09:00:52 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 30, 2008, 05:45:42 PM
Pat

I have read that some of the PnAC, all non football playing schools, were moving to the MAC. I suppose that fills some of the other sports holes left by defections last year.

Some but not all. Here's the saga of the Mid-Atlantic.

http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/category/mid-atlantic-shuffle/
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 30, 2008, 09:36:03 PM
 Pat

You would think that being 5 miles from Del Val and there being a newspaper (The  Intel) that they would cover some of the  MAC conference news. Notta!!! But the paper doesn't do write ups on many sports outside of football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2008, 10:16:44 PM
A lot of this is old news, though. The decisions have long been made, and some of the changes go into effect this fall.

You read the local paper for that stuff? Read D3hoops.com. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 30, 2008, 10:48:21 PM
No  ;D I meant that you would think that Doylestown being a college town that the local paper would follow some things a little closer. I read what you had mentioned
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on June 01, 2008, 02:38:30 AM
 :)  Great talk guys!  I really enjoy reading the inside line on DIII!!  I really love this forum.  Thanks!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on June 03, 2008, 03:05:49 PM

The funny thing about Doylestown and the lack of coverage  of  the MAC, even thogh Del  Val

is just a few miles down the road, is that the high schools (Central Bucks East and West) are powerhouses

and they get  a whole lot of ink. Shame on the Daily Intellligencer, the town paper. Del Val deserves coverage.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 03, 2008, 10:58:49 PM
Quote from: muledaddy on June 03, 2008, 03:05:49 PM

The funny thing about Doylestown and the lack of coverage  of  the MAC, even thogh Del  Val

is just a few miles down the road, is that the high schools (Central Bucks East and West) are powerhouses

and they get  a whole lot of ink. Shame on the Daily Intellligencer, the town paper. Del Val deserves coverage.

  muledaddy

  High School football gets the most ink in D'Town.. Of the Philly Burbs papers, the Intell has fallen the most... They don't do write ups or box scores(except wrestling) for the other sports. They do give Del Val's scores with one sentence blurbs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on June 04, 2008, 07:05:29 PM
I think that I read, back in Jan, that paper was purchased. Maybe that is why the coverage slipped. ???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on June 04, 2008, 07:23:51 PM
The Intelligencer actually has a great beat writer named Tom Pfaff.  Tom has been covering the Aggies faithfully for years, including through the dismal campaigns in which it was not easy to find a gold-and-green lining.  He gives up ten Saturday afternoons a year and then returns to the paper on Saturday evening where he writes and files his story.  He's one of the few beat writers in the league who travels to every game.

For some reason, many of his articles don't make it on the website.  I wish they did because he covers Del Val with a passion and creativity that is unusual at this level.  But they are in the print version and provide great coverage of Del Val and the rest of the MAC.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 04, 2008, 07:33:20 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on June 04, 2008, 07:23:51 PM
The Intelligencer actually has a great beat writer named Tom Pfaff.  Tom has been covering the Aggies faithfully for years, including through the dismal campaigns in which it was not easy to find a gold-and-green lining.  He gives up ten Saturday afternoons a year and then returns to the paper on Saturday evening where he writes and files his story.  He's one of the few beat writers in the league who travels to every game.

For some reason, many of his articles don't make it on the website.  I wish they did because he covers Del Val with a passion and creativity that is unusual at this level.  But they are in the print version and provide great coverage of Del Val and the rest of the MAC.
A question in the mold of Joseph Schumpeter's Creative Destruction...

How do we get Tom Pfaff's content onto these pages?

The D3Sports.com platform is working to be the preferred platform for all things D3.  Driving fans here for D3 content ought to be the way that we can get more content, whether generated from Pat's own "factory" or using this platform as the source from which the content may be accessed.

We probably need to be reading Pfaff's stuff weekly, at the least.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 04, 2008, 08:26:26 PM

Gordan

I agree Tom does a great job with football. My point was more pointed toward the lack of coverage throughout the rest of the year in high school sports as well as the college (except playoffs). I know that other sister papers under the phillyburbs umbrella have better coverage. I have known some of the writers for many years and what they do cover they cover with a passion. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on June 04, 2008, 11:25:35 PM
Plus +k to Ralph for citing Schumpeter, even if I don't know the answer to his question.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 05, 2008, 02:23:44 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on June 04, 2008, 11:25:35 PM
Plus +k to Ralph for citing Schumpeter, even if I don't know the answer to his question.
:)  Thanks!

I know that you share the dream!

Quality D3 content, around the clock, around the year!

If he can't get it published in the Intelligencer, then why not at his tartget audience!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 05, 2008, 04:04:29 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 05, 2008, 02:23:44 PM
If he can't get it published in the Intelligencer, then why not at his tartget audience!

Well, because the paper owns it and he doesn't, for starters. :)

Perhaps we should start an e-mail campaign to get the paper to print them.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on June 05, 2008, 06:40:02 PM
They do print the stories, but they don't post them on the website.

Maybe they have some kind of web-posting limitations since the Intelligencer is part of the larger Phillyburbs.com umbrella.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 05, 2008, 08:51:16 PM
Printing them on the Web site is what I meant. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on June 05, 2008, 09:52:08 PM
Oh. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 09, 2008, 07:34:07 PM
Congrats to NNAsid    http://www.acfcfootball.com/landing/index .

You and the brethren(including any female) of sids helps Pat and the rest of the DIII crew keep us all up to date on all our favorite sports.

Once again Congrats
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on June 12, 2008, 09:27:46 AM
Thanks PA_Wesley   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on June 19, 2008, 11:07:39 AM
http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2389

Article on the two Bryan Robinsons from the Arizona Cardinals website.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on June 20, 2008, 09:18:48 AM
Confusing article but having an article written about you is a good sign.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 23, 2008, 10:36:08 PM
On this lovely Stormy July nite here in the east with Invincible (The Vince Papale story)(Rocky Myers former Wesley Great gets some face time as an extra) on the tube it's a good time to start thinking about the 2008 season. Wesley and Salisbury are both getting some props from preseason polls and all-american teams.  With both team playing CNU and Del-Val early in the year it could give a little insite into the big Nov 1 meeting between the two schools. Frostburg St.  starts over with a new coaching staff and NNN tries to get back to 2006 form..  Only a few short weeks to camp
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on July 24, 2008, 03:17:24 PM
Five Wesley preseason All-Americans and two from Salisbury. I would imagine that the seven preseason All-Americans from the ACFC has to be the most in the conference's history.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on July 24, 2008, 05:55:59 PM
I counted 6 from Wesley. did you see the RET specialist? Or maybe I can't count that high!

8 All Americans!! Nice for this (ACFC) conference. Too bad CNU has to play all 8 in the first 2 weeks of the season!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on July 24, 2008, 06:01:08 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on June 09, 2008, 07:34:07 PM
Congrats to NNAsid    http://www.acfcfootball.com/landing/index .

You and the brethren(including any female) of sids helps Pat and the rest of the DIII crew keep us all up to date on all our favorite sports.

Once again Congrats

We expect nothing less as former Bruins and Captains!! Way to go Mr. Heath!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on July 24, 2008, 08:48:39 PM
cnu85, how is it going?  i am sure that the schedule looks a little scary with wesley and salisbury to start it off.  it was nice to see the conference get the early recognition, hope it continues.  looking forward to the trip to cnu for game one, hope the tailgating is good because we will be there bright and early, just like a home game.  will be in touch closer to game time to get the lowdown on where to go once we get there.  wesley is ranked in the top 5 in 2 pools and 6 in the other that i have seen, but waiting for the d3 pool to get a good read on them.  offense will be very strong with 10 returners that broke school records last year for rushing and total yards.  we are looking forward to the season, jason's last one.  it had been a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on July 25, 2008, 09:25:27 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 24, 2008, 06:01:08 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on June 09, 2008, 07:34:07 PM
Congrats to NNAsid    http://www.acfcfootball.com/landing/index .

You and the brethren(including any female) of sids helps Pat and the rest of the DIII crew keep us all up to date on all our favorite sports.

Once again Congrats

We expect nothing less as former Bruins and Captains!! Way to go Mr. Heath!


Thanks!!  It was a fun night.  The top award from the Sports Club (Man of the Year) went to Mike Tomlin (Steelers HC, former William & Mary and Denbigh High standout) so it was definitely a fun night.

Is that the most pre-season All-Americans?? If thats not the most its got to be in the top two.

You got the top two in this conference getting all the (well deserved) props and two schools with new staffs.  It'll be a interesting season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on July 25, 2008, 11:55:54 AM
CNU,
Wesley did have six and Salisbury two preseason All-Americans. I guess I'm the one that can't count that high.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2008, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on July 24, 2008, 08:48:39 PM
cnu85, how is it going?  i am sure that the schedule looks a little scary with wesley and salisbury to start it off.  it was nice to see the conference get the early recognition, hope it continues.  looking forward to the trip to cnu for game one, hope the tailgating is good because we will be there bright and early, just like a home game.  will be in touch closer to game time to get the lowdown on where to go once we get there.  wesley is ranked in the top 5 in 2 pools and 6 in the other that i have seen, but waiting for the d3 pool to get a good read on them.  offense will be very strong with 10 returners that broke school records last year for rushing and total yards.  we are looking forward to the season, jason's last one.  it had been a lot of fun.

Looking forward to seeing you again!! We'll make sure to hooked up before the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2008, 04:47:01 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on July 25, 2008, 11:55:54 AM
CNU,
Wesley did have six and Salisbury two preseason All-Americans. I guess I'm the one that can't count that high.

I was thinking it was me, once I had to use fingers on my second hand I was losing count because my brain kept thinking....Holy S%$# Batman!!

We also face one other Pre-season All American from NCWC....9 for the year.....

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2008, 04:50:32 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on July 24, 2008, 08:48:39 PM
cnu85, how is it going?  i am sure that the schedule looks a little scary with wesley and salisbury to start it off. 

ain't skeered!!

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on July 25, 2008, 09:40:58 PM
since u aint playing, i figured u aint scared.  it will be fun.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2008, 11:12:29 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on July 25, 2008, 09:40:58 PM
since u aint playing, i figured u aint scared.  it will be fun.

That is EXACTLY why I was able to say that!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 27, 2008, 11:13:38 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 25, 2008, 04:47:01 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on July 25, 2008, 11:55:54 AM
CNU,
Wesley did have six and Salisbury two preseason All-Americans. I guess I'm the one that can't count that high.

I was thinking it was me, once I had to use fingers on my second hand I was losing count because my brain kept thinking....Holy S%$# Batman!!

We also face one other Pre-season All American from NCWC....9 for the year.....



If you're boys keep their heads in the game this year, you might even wind up facing 15 or more preseason All-Americans.....the 3 from W&J and the 3 from UMHB......In Weeks 12 and 13, that is.  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on July 29, 2008, 02:08:42 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on July 24, 2008, 08:48:39 PM
cnu85, how is it going?  i am sure that the schedule looks a little scary with wesley and salisbury to start it off.  it was nice to see the conference get the early recognition, hope it continues.  looking forward to the trip to cnu for game one, hope the tailgating is good because we will be there bright and early, just like a home game.  will be in touch closer to game time to get the lowdown on where to go once we get there.  wesley is ranked in the top 5 in 2 pools and 6 in the other that i have seen, but waiting for the d3 pool to get a good read on them.  offense will be very strong with 10 returners that broke school records last year for rushing and total yards.  we are looking forward to the season, jason's last one.  it had been a lot of fun.

I sure hope Wesley can keep it up through the season on the road.  Jason should have a great year, especially with a year's starting experience behind him.  It sux that I will only be able to see 5 or 6 games, though. :'(  I really can't wait for the season to start!  I need to see Mike Pennywell run and Jon Lanouette jump!   :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on July 29, 2008, 10:45:44 AM
Ski, thanks for the vote of confidence.  we are also looking forward to the season and are presently working on our traveling plans :D.  all the preseason acolades are nice, but mean nothing until it all gets started.  since you are going to see 5 or 6 that means you will be traveling, del val and salisbury?  jason is getting excited with only 2 weeks until camp gets started as i am sure the other players are.  i would think that the "o" will be balanced and hard to defend.  questions about the defense with several new faces, but a strong returning cast there also.  have a good rest of the summer and will be seeing you soon enough.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on July 29, 2008, 03:03:27 PM
Just a quick update on Byron Westbrook. The Redskins released their first depth chart for the 2008 season and he is currently listed as the #3 Left Cornerback. Washington has a total of eight CBs on its roster.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 03, 2008, 09:11:41 AM
For those of you looking forward to seeing this years version of Wesley play, good news, scrimmage with Kean University in Dover on Aug 30 at 11:00 a.m.  Less than 2 weeks until the start of camp:D, not wishing away time since I am getting older, but we are really looking forward to this season.  I find it hard to believe that Jason is going into his final season at Wesley.  It seems like just yesterday that we were trying to get him dressed for his first football practice when he was 7 years old and here we are 16 years later preparing to watch him play his final college season on one of the top D3 teams in the country.  The journey has been fun so far and hopefully it will not end until a December Saturday in Salem Va. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 07, 2008, 11:08:41 PM
 B Robinson got some quality minutes late in the  Cardinal , Saints game.. He looked good on some plays.  Played both left and right tackle spots.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on August 08, 2008, 10:55:45 PM

Wesleydad,

good luck and enjoy the season.....we both have seniors playing...i hope to get a chance to
meet you.......in November....lets see if thats the way it works out......God bless
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 09, 2008, 08:01:50 PM
muledaddy, good luck to you also.  i also hope to meet u at some point, november in dover will be fine.  enjoy your son's last season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 13, 2008, 10:59:44 AM
well, finally here. ;D  the boys report today for what they hope to be a good 4+ months of football.  the expectations are high for the seniors who have been to the semis twice and the quarters last year.  preseason polls have the team anywhere from 2 - 6, which seems about right to me since the team returns 9 of 11 on a record breaking offense.  defense will have to work hard with the lose of robinson, but should still be strong with enough returning players to not drop off very much.  they will not have to be as strong since the offense will be one of the strongest and most balanced in the country.  good luck to the teams as they try to figure out which to stop, the run or the pass. ???  the early season schedule is a good test with CNU, Del Val, and Widener all receiving some preseason recognition.  2 weeks until the scrimmage in dover against kean, let the fun begin.  hope to see all in dover and many on the road as we travel up and down the east coast cheering the team on, loud and proud.  go wolverines, make this the year to take the final step to salem. :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on August 13, 2008, 08:58:16 PM
2 min

Wesleydad,

have a great season....the mules are hoping to visit the ditch to get a little revenge for lastg year, when we were down three of our leading players due to injury and still hadyou on the ropes
in the first half. Maybe things would have been a little different if we had taken advantage of our 3 additional first half scoring opportunities..........if its God's will, the road to Salem will see our paths cross...
Meanwhile, may both the Wolverines and the Mules have good, happy, successful regular seeasons,
without devastating injuries........
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 15, 2008, 09:55:22 PM
 According to the local news in Dover, Wesley had 184 report for registration for football. A couple of Jr. college transfers in the mix. Now the fun begins....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on August 16, 2008, 02:08:25 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 15, 2008, 09:55:22 PM
According to the local news in Dover, Wesley had 184 report for registration for football. A couple of Jr. college transfers in the mix. Now the fun begins....

You guys are like a good bottle of wine, you just get better. I would have liked to see you guys come to Sam Mills Field this year to test our metal. Maybe another year. You know I would like to see you guys in the NJAC even though we know it will never happen. Good luck this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 17, 2008, 01:38:37 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 15, 2008, 09:55:22 PM
According to the local news in Dover, Wesley had 184 report for registration for football. A couple of Jr. college transfers in the mix. Now the fun begins....

Yikes :o
And we were happy with 80
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 17, 2008, 11:06:48 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on August 16, 2008, 02:08:25 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 15, 2008, 09:55:22 PM
According to the local news in Dover, Wesley had 184 report for registration for football. A couple of Jr. college transfers in the mix. Now the fun begins....

You guys are like a good bottle of wine, you just get better. I would have liked to see you guys come to Sam Mills Field this year to test our metal. Maybe another year. You know I would like to see you guys in the NJAC even though we know it will never happen. Good luck this year.



Ohhh, darn, down from 188 last year.  I hope that Wesley can handle the loss of players, hehehehehe.....

Man, I can't wait for the season to start!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 21, 2008, 05:35:52 PM
Here are some Dover and Wilmington  news articles about Wesley football

http://athletics.wesley.edu/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.press
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 25, 2008, 06:25:03 PM
just got back from a week of fun and sun in myrtle beach, and now its football time.  it has been very quiet around here so far.  saturday gets it all started with a scrimmage against kean, will be good to get them back on the field and see how they look after camp.  reports have been good so far with no major injuries or losses of any other type so far, knock on wood.  hopefully the team will live up to the preseason hype and do what is expected of them.

on another note, saw that brob got cut yesterday, but the site said he may get placed on the practice squad.  good luck to him.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 25, 2008, 08:51:58 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 25, 2008, 06:25:03 PM
just got back from a week of fun and sun in myrtle beach, and now its football time.  it has been very quiet around here so far.  saturday gets it all started with a scrimmage against kean, will be good to get them back on the field and see how they look after camp.  reports have been good so far with no major injuries or losses of any other type so far, knock on wood.  hopefully the team will live up to the preseason hype and do what is expected of them.

on another note, saw that brob got cut yesterday, but the site said he may get placed on the practice squad.  good luck to him.

That sux.  Oh well, all may not be lost with him on the practice squad.  Where is the scrimmage going to be played and when?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 25, 2008, 08:54:55 PM
ski, game is home this saturday at 1100.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 25, 2008, 09:30:15 PM
wesleydad

When it gets closer to the Del Val game I'll get you some directions around town up here to avoid some of the traffic. Can't make it down for the scrimmage but I plan on making it down for the Widener game. Actually hope to make (ALL) 3 home games  ;D.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 25, 2008, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 25, 2008, 09:30:15 PM
wesleydad

When it gets closer to the Del Val game I'll get you some directions around town up here to avoid some of the traffic. Can't make it down for the scrimmage but I plan on making it down for the Widener game. Actually hope to make (ALL) 3 home games  ;D.   

I'll see you in October then.  For the usual visit for homecoming  ;D

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 25, 2008, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: nnasid on August 25, 2008, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 25, 2008, 09:30:15 PM
wesleydad

When it gets closer to the Del Val game I'll get you some directions around town up here to avoid some of the traffic. Can't make it down for the scrimmage but I plan on making it down for the Widener game. Actually hope to make (ALL) 3 home games  ;D.   

I'll see you in October then.  For the usual visit for homecoming  ;D



NNASid

I hope you can make it up this year. There will be a lot of our family there that day so I may have to set up a tailgate myself.  ;D     
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 26, 2008, 09:26:22 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 25, 2008, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: nnasid on August 25, 2008, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 25, 2008, 09:30:15 PM
wesleydad

When it gets closer to the Del Val game I'll get you some directions around town up here to avoid some of the traffic. Can't make it down for the scrimmage but I plan on making it down for the Widener game. Actually hope to make (ALL) 3 home games  ;D.   

I'll see you in October then.  For the usual visit for homecoming  ;D



NNASid

I hope you can make it up this year. There will be a lot of our family there that day so I may have to set up a tailgate myself.  ;D     

Our student association was looking at doing something (tailgate wise) at that game.  I told them with it being your homecoming, they might have to have the tailgate party at the Bay Bridge Tunnel ;D.
Luckily they took my suggestion to heart and are doing something at the George Mason game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 26, 2008, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 25, 2008, 08:54:55 PM
ski, game is home this saturday at 1100.

Excellent!  I'll be there!  You can't miss me in the 18 jersey.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on August 26, 2008, 03:27:57 PM
Well, my son is finished his playing time @ SU....off coaching at the high school level....but I find myself getting amped up for the SU opener. He went over and watched them scrimmage George Mason and said they look pretty good, but it is always tough to get a good read on a controlled scrimmage. I hope that the game against Wesley is for the conference, but SU has a grinder to get through before that game. One word of advice for all the Dads (and Moms) out there with sons playing ball.....savor every minute, it ends way too quickly. Enjoy all your games and may you win them all, until you face the Gull!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 26, 2008, 07:58:20 PM
well said su backer.  i agree, my sons last year already and it seems like we were just going down to watch the first scrimmage 4 years ago hoping he might get in the game.

pawesleyfan, i will certainly get in touch. we already have travel plans for cnu and as you would expect we will be at all the games through salem.

to all readers of this site, if you have not purchased the preview yet, you need to do so.  it is one of the best pieces of football information out there at any level.  pat, keith, et al have outdone themselves this time.  plenty of features to read and the info is great on all the opponents of whichever team you cheer for.  besides, there are some pretty interesting predictions for the final 4 and national champs.  support the website, you will not be disappointed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on August 29, 2008, 11:43:14 AM
Saturday is the deadline for NFL teams to get their rosters to 53 players. As of right now Byron Westbrook is still alive for the Redskins. Any word on the Cardinals and Robinson?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on August 29, 2008, 02:45:39 PM
Was cut by the Cardinals last Wednesday. Has talked to a few other teams and may get another look on someone's practice squad once the final 53-man rosters are set.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 30, 2008, 02:25:35 PM
Quote from: Conrad on August 29, 2008, 02:45:39 PM
Was cut by the Cardinals last Wednesday. Has talked to a few other teams and may get another look on someone's practice squad once the final 53-man rosters are set.

I talked to Robinson today.  Tommorow is the final roster cut for the Cardinals.  He's hopeful, but if that doesn't pan out, then he has some other possibilities with at least one other NFL team.  Here's hoping.


-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 30, 2008, 02:31:13 PM
Wesley and Kean had their scrimmage today at Miller Stadium.  They played 3 quarters with Wesley coming out on top 27-0.  Wesley was rough around the edges, but nailed some big plays courtesy of Larry Beavers.  They also stopped Kean on some long drives with key interceptions.  With no QB tackles allowed, it was kinda hard to determine if the score would of been different.  Overall, the refs did a good job calling touch sacks, though.

  I finally met PAWesleyfan today.  Nice guy! 

With only 3 home games, I had to make this scrimmage!  I even got a Wesley mini-helmet! Booyeah!  :)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 30, 2008, 05:01:34 PM
 (I finally met PAWesleyfan today.  Nice guy)
-Ski

  Thanks Ski ,but it wasn't me  ;D  I was up here in Pa. getting brownie poin=ts for my trips later this year  ;)
I would guess it was Weslydad
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 30, 2008, 05:18:31 PM
ski, it was me, but you are correct, pawesleyfan is a nice guy ;).  agree with the scrimmage.  90 yard reverse, 55 yard td pass, and a 65 yard screen pass to gene knight for td.  also beavers had a kickoff return for td called back for block in the back.  5 or 6 guys can score anytime they touch the ball so the offense could be explosive.  wesley did not run the ball too well.  i hope that they dont rely on the big play too much and forget about clock management.  the d looked good for the most part, except when they pressured the Qb and he scrambled, the d backs sort of lost their man and gave up some big plays.  all in all ok for the scrimmage, no injuries.  looking forward to next week against cnu.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 30, 2008, 08:01:23 PM
DOH!!! :-X

Sorry about that guys.  Too many Wesley's in the mix.  Wesleydad hit it right on the head.  I think those big plays really shocked Kean.

-Ski
Title: Guilford scrimmages at NNA (8/30)
Post by: hasanova on August 31, 2008, 10:35:04 AM
This is all I have from yesterday's Guilford at NNA scrimmage:

"Guilford quarterbacks threw for 387 yards and five touchdowns Saturday in a controlled scrimmage at the Newport News Apprentice School. Senior Josh Vogelbach and Billy Watkins threw for two touchdowns apiece and Jake Routh had two scoring receptions for Guilford."

Just an interesting note ... Michael Vite, the HC at NNA, was the Defensive Coordinator at Guilford the past two seasons.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 01, 2008, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on August 29, 2008, 11:43:14 AM
Saturday is the deadline for NFL teams to get their rosters to 53 players. As of right now Byron Westbrook is still alive for the Redskins. Any word on the Cardinals and Robinson?

Byron Westbrook (C) # 34 made the Redskins again on the Practice Squad.  Congratulations and Good Luck Byron!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 01, 2008, 08:21:29 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 01, 2008, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on August 29, 2008, 11:43:14 AM
Saturday is the deadline for NFL teams to get their rosters to 53 players. As of right now Byron Westbrook is still alive for the Redskins. Any word on the Cardinals and Robinson?

Byron Westbrook (C) # 34 made the Redskins again on the Practice Squad.  Congratulations and Good Luck Byron!

lincolnlion,

How have you been? Hope all is well. Good luck to the Gulls this year. Any chance you make it to Sam Mills Field this year? It would be nice to see you. How is your daughter doing?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2008, 01:13:05 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on September 01, 2008, 08:21:29 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 01, 2008, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on August 29, 2008, 11:43:14 AM
Saturday is the deadline for NFL teams to get their rosters to 53 players. As of right now Byron Westbrook is still alive for the Redskins. Any word on the Cardinals and Robinson?

Byron Westbrook (C) # 34 made the Redskins again on the Practice Squad.  Congratulations and Good Luck Byron!

lincolnlion,

How have you been? Hope all is well. Good luck to the Gulls this year. Any chance you make it to Sam Mills Field this year? It would be nice to see you. How is your daughter doing?

rams1102:

My daughter graduated from Salisbury with a B.S. in Information Systems in December, 2006, and thank God there are no more tuition payments, however, the loans are due every month.  Of course I'm still a Sea Gull backer, and can't wait for the season to begin.  The Gulls have an ambitious schedule this year.

I was down in southeastern Pennsylvania this past weekend for my alma mater's first football game in 48 years.  The Lions beat George Mason's club team 34-7.  Lincoln travels to Southern Virginia University this weekend before embarking on all CIAA teams for the remaining schedule.

I'm going to try to get over to Sam Mills for one game this season.  I'll let you know when one I can make.   Good luck to the Red Hawks this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on September 03, 2008, 10:25:41 AM
Week 1 Predictions

Salisbury at Albright
Last year Salisbury's option attack might have caught Albright off guards. For teams that have never faced the option it always difficult to adjust, especially when you traditionally face pro-style or spread offensives. This year I see the game being a little closer than the 42-12 win the Sea Gulls had a year ago but I still think SU will win. Salisbury 35, Albright 17.

Wesley at Christopher Newport
CNU has one of the best Division III atmospheres you'll find. The stadium is top-notch and stands are always packed. Not to mention the Captains have been a staple at the top of the USA South Conference. However, Wesley has been one of the most consistent programs over the last four years. Wesley might struggle early on but I think they are too much for CNU. Wesley 31, Christopher Newport 13.

Malone at Apprentice School
I don't know too much about Malone but I do know that the Apprentice School has always been a pretty disciplined team. Two years ago they were 7-3 and they were a four-point loss and an overtime loss away from being 6-4 last year. I see Apprentice School winning this game. Apprentice School 28, Malone 10.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 03, 2008, 06:34:08 PM
My picks mirror XSUGull with Salisbury, Wesley and Apprentice to win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 04, 2008, 11:00:48 AM
Quote from: XSUGull on September 03, 2008, 10:25:41 AM
Week 1 Predictions

Salisbury at Albright
Last year Salisbury's option attack might have caught Albright off guards. For teams that have never faced the option it always difficult to adjust, especially when you traditionally face pro-style or spread offensives. This year I see the game being a little closer than the 42-12 win the Sea Gulls had a year ago but I still think SU will win. Salisbury 35, Albright 17.

Wesley at Christopher Newport
CNU has one of the best Division III atmospheres you'll find. The stadium is top-notch and stands are always packed. Not to mention the Captains have been a staple at the top of the USA South Conference. However, Wesley has been one of the most consistent programs over the last four years. Wesley might struggle early on but I think they are too much for CNU. Wesley 31, Christopher Newport 13.

Malone at Apprentice School
I don't know too much about Malone but I do know that the Apprentice School has always been a pretty disciplined team. Two years ago they were 7-3 and they were a four-point loss and an overtime loss away from being 6-4 last year. I see Apprentice School winning this game. Apprentice School 28, Malone 10.


Albright played very well after last year's opener against SU. They have a senior QB (Tanner Kelly) and they are always tough to beat. The Gulls sacked him 8 times in last year's game, they'll need to keep the pressure on. I agree. It will be a tough game, especially on the road.

Looks like the two tidewater games, maybe played at high tide. Lots of rain and high winds from Hanna expected. The Wolverines and Builders will have to pound it on the ground and hold onto the ball.

Malone, by the way, has been pretty good the last couple years. They beat Geneva handlily and Gulls fans know they gave SU a pretty good game last season.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 04, 2008, 01:31:56 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2008, 01:13:05 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on September 01, 2008, 08:21:29 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 01, 2008, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on August 29, 2008, 11:43:14 AM
Saturday is the deadline for NFL teams to get their rosters to 53 players. As of right now Byron Westbrook is still alive for the Redskins. Any word on the Cardinals and Robinson?

Byron Westbrook (C) # 34 made the Redskins again on the Practice Squad.  Congratulations and Good Luck Byron!

lincolnlion,

I responded back on the NJAC Board. The Gulls should beat Albright and good luck against Wesley this year. Good luck to Lincoln's new football season and finailly, congratulations to your daughter. See you soon.How have you been? Hope all is well. Good luck to the Gulls this year. Any chance you make it to Sam Mills Field this year? It would be nice to see you. How is your daughter doing?

rams1102:

My daughter graduated from Salisbury with a B.S. in Information Systems in December, 2006, and thank God there are no more tuition payments, however, the loans are due every month.  Of course I'm still a Sea Gull backer, and can't wait for the season to begin.  The Gulls have an ambitious schedule this year.

I was down in southeastern Pennsylvania this past weekend for my alma mater's first football game in 48 years.  The Lions beat George Mason's club team 34-7.  Lincoln travels to Southern Virginia University this weekend before embarking on all CIAA teams for the remaining schedule.

I'm going to try to get over to Sam Mills for one game this season.  I'll let you know when one I can make.   Good luck to the Red Hawks this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2008, 03:29:45 PM
Wesley Fans,

The game with CNU has been cancelled...or at least postponed.

cnusports.com (http://cnusports.com)

:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 04, 2008, 05:06:55 PM
Apprentice School has cancelled its game with Malone College

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 04, 2008, 10:08:42 PM
well, obviously you cant mess with mother nature.  wesley was going to play a very good game on saturday and despite what would have been a good cnu defense i dont think the game would have been close.  this is a very good team on both sides of the ball and will be hard to beat by anyone in d3.  well, next week they go to delval which is supposed to be a good team, we will get to see how good this team is, or at least how good i thing they are going to be.  maybe i will travel to albright and do a little scouting of the gulls to give me something to do this weekend.  we had a nice weekend planned tailgating with cnu85 and other wesley parents, but mother nature has changed our plans, hopefully this is just a small blip on the road to salem.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 05, 2008, 07:01:45 AM
Well, rather be safe than sorry.  With how unpredictable the weather can be, it was a good decision, IMHO.  I might have to hit the Delval game myself.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 05, 2008, 06:36:06 PM
I got to listen to the Coach Drass show on WDEL on Wednesday and called in to ask about his opinion on the future of the ACFC with only 4 teams, and whether or not Wesley may jump ship.  He stated that he didn't know yet as some movement of teams between NJAC and the Empire 8 may happen some time this next year.  When that happens, then a decision may be made.   Interesting stuff!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 05, 2008, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 05, 2008, 06:36:06 PM
I got to listen to the Coach Drass show on WDEL on Wednesday and called in to ask about his opinion on the future of the ACFC with only 4 teams, and whether or not Wesley may jump ship.  He stated that he didn't know yet as some movement of teams between NJAC and the Empire 8 may happen some time this next year.  When that happens, then a decision may be made.   Interesting stuff!

-Ski
+1! 

Great stuff, indeed!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 05, 2008, 09:56:33 PM
Ski

Nice call in

I heard your call... Coach Drass also said that they were still waiting for Stevenson to make a decision which would give the CAC four core football schools. I know there has been talk that Gallaudet is having some kind of problems (Pat has brought up something about that before), but with the upgrade to their field it looks as if they are serious about sticking with football. Also that the ACFC may get some of the NAIA schools that are moving to DIII.  AND let us not  forget that Frostburg  St. is still in the mix!!!! ;) I'd call in but Coach Drass would hang up on me..  ;D   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 05, 2008, 10:32:58 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 05, 2008, 09:56:33 PM
Ski

Nice call in

I heard your call... Coach Drass also said that they were still waiting for Stevenson to make a decision which would give the CAC four core football schools. I know there has been talk that Gallaudet is having some kind of problems (Pat has brought up something about that before), but with the upgrade to their field it looks as if they are serious about sticking with football. Also that the ACFC may get some of the NAIA schools that are moving to DIII.  AND let us not has mentioned something about itt forget that Frostburg  St. is still in the mix!!!! ;) I'd call in but Coach Drass would hang up on me..  ;D   

awwww come on pa.....he's a teddy bear -- he wouldnt do that now  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 05, 2008, 10:43:26 PM
nnasid

He certainly is!!  And I am honored to call him my friend. BUT he would hang up on my questions ;D

sid
Are you getting the rain now? It looks like we could end up with a lot of water before it's  over. We need the rain here.  Just not 4 to 7 inches...at once.
I gotta believe that there will be some travel woes in Pa and NJ  tomorrow
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 06, 2008, 03:04:25 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 05, 2008, 09:56:33 PM
Ski

Nice call in

I heard your call... Coach Drass also said that they were still waiting for Stevenson to make a decision which would give the CAC four core football schools. I know there has been talk that Gallaudet is having some kind of problems (Pat has brought up something about that before), but with the upgrade to their field it looks as if they are serious about sticking with football. Also that the ACFC may get some of the NAIA schools that are moving to DIII.  AND let us not  forget that Frostburg  St. is still in the mix!!!! ;) I'd call in but Coach Drass would hang up on me..  ;D   


I have copied this post from the Future of D-III board.  My suspicious characters for future ACFC membership (if they wish to add football) are in italics.  Comments are appreciated...  :)

QuoteActive with restrictions (fifth year member of provisional program)
Mount Mary College

Fourth year
Mitchell College
Presentation College  UMAC

Repeating third year
North Central University

Third year (games against them now count for ranking purposes)
Lancaster Bible College
Lyndon State College   ?North Atlantic Conference?
Saint Vincent College  Pres AC
SUNY at Morrisville            NJAC
La Sierra University CA

Second year
Geneva College                  Pres AC
Penn State Harrisburg?
Franciscan University of Steubenville ?
St. Joseph's College, New York
Birmingham Southern College   SCAC (the only reclassifying school on the list)

First year repeat
Spalding University  (Rumored to be courting the SLIAC--doesn't have football)

First year
University of Cincinnati Clermont College
State University of New York at Cobleskill?        

Starting next year
Doane College NE (was supposed to have started this year)
Berry College  GA
Concordia University NE
Covenant College  GA
Hastings College  NE 
Penn State Abington?
William Jewell  MO
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 06, 2008, 08:28:13 AM
pawesleyfan, i am thinking about braving the weather and traveling to delval this afternoon to take a look at both delval and iona since wesley plays both of them.  salisbury is at albright so i could make it a double header if i want to.  wish i had a better feel for the weather since they dont seem to be too sure when it is really going to get heavy.  will keep track of it and make a decision around 11.  i am going through football withdrawal, nothing worse then getting all geared up for the season and then have it pushed back a week.  well, time to decide if i want to end up being a drowned rat and do the wesley opponent doubleheader.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 08:52:14 AM
Wesleydad,

Since my son doesn't play, I can only imagine what you're going through. I'm having d3 footbal withdrawals. I was even looking at the maps and weather trying to figure out if I wanted to go to Danville to watch Bridgewater at Averett. But I'd have to drive right through Hanna. Then I thought about a night game. Greensboro is not that much further and it's a night game. I could hook up with Ryan Tipps. But being an old guy, that would involve overnight lodging. Then there's the possibility of tomorrow's game at NC Wesleyan.

It all sucks - too bad Wesley and CNU couldn't have moved the game to Sunday. But a game involving overnight travel is not easy to move 24 hours. Plus the campus at CNU is closed until Sunday afternon.

Oh well.  I will just sit here in the rain in Newport News and watch college ball on TV and keep track of d3 ball on the internet.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 06, 2008, 08:56:52 AM
cnu85, i just saw the latest forecast for pa and it is supposed to be drenching from 1 til about 9, which would mean i get soaked if i decide to go to the 2 games.  not sure if i want to do that since the weather will not allow any of the teams to show much of what they can do.  we certainly are bummed that we are not in newport news getting ready for football.  stay dry and enjoy the game if you decide to go, seems that you have a better chance to see a game then i will.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 10:02:16 AM
Wesleydad,

I think I have decided to just stay home and enjoy some beer and football on TV.

It's 10am!! Parking lot is open. POP POP - 2 cold beers open. CLINK ....the two beers are touched together in a toast to the football season. Then Wesleydad and CNU85 says cheers and down the beverage of choice and the season is officially open.

That's what was supposed to be happening right this second!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 06, 2008, 10:08:52 AM
cnu85, excellent description of what should have been and would have been a great start to the season.  well, we will have to save that toast for the stagg bowl when we get ready to cheer for wesley :D.  i am still holding out that the storm will move quicker and i will get to the salisbury game at albright, reading area looks like it might escape most of the heavy stuff and albright has a turf field so that will help.  the weather wont effect salisbury much since they are a running team.  enjoy the weekend and be safe.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 11:34:32 AM
wesleydad

I just got in from work (Wesley games the next two weeks so no work on Sat. Have to keep the boss at work and the real boss at home happy ;D)  or I would have gotten back sooner.
  The weather looks bad from 1 on and you would have trouble on the Pa pike with flooding between mid county and Willow Grove. Plus this whole county is bad for road flooding..

You can probably get the Del Val game on the PC and listen to Gordan Mann do play by play.  At least get a feeling of what they both have...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 06, 2008, 01:28:35 PM
Del Val down 14-0 to Iona in the first. Two future Wolverine opponents. Del val has outgained the Gaels, but just had a fumble returned for a TD.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 04:31:35 PM
It may be real bad in Reading for the Salisbury / Albright the storm may dump 10 inches of rain in that area. Possible tornado activity in Allentown. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 07:04:58 PM
Salisbury held Albright to 45 yrds total O in the first half. Sal 10-0 half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 06, 2008, 07:08:15 PM
PA--
You sure are working hard to get to post number 1000. Watch out for tornadoes!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 07:16:48 PM
I could use some time in OZ ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 06, 2008, 07:40:09 PM
Have to scratch your head about Albright's onside try after scoring to make it 10-7. You have to make the Gulls travel the long field on a night like this.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 07:56:54 PM
Probably trying to catch them off guard. Big gamble at that point in the game to shorten the field that much for Salisbury!!!

1000  :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 06, 2008, 08:02:02 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 07:56:54 PM
Probably trying to catch them off guard. Big gamble at that point in the game to shorten the field that much for Salisbury!!!

1000  :o

You have too much time on your hands.... :D

Albright back in it with a td and 2 to pull within 23-15. But Curley breaks free...Gulls on the move...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 08:08:12 PM
conrad

have you firmed up any plans yet for next week?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 08:11:12 PM
I lost the feed.. This lap top is slow as .... I gotta get my PC fixed
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 06, 2008, 08:26:27 PM
Listening to Albright feed, they pull within 2 points with about a minute left. Albright trying onsides.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 06, 2008, 08:28:28 PM
Gulls recover, 43 seconds left
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 08:31:34 PM
After doing a little research it seems that Hartwick has an open date on Sept  27th and has only 9 games..

Wesley has an open date on the 27th and also only has 9 games because of todays cancellation!  Why not?Huh? Ithaca and SJF both turned down Wesley for a game this year. Maybe Hartwick would take a crack at them?


  Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 08:34:59 PM
Looks like Albright found a weakness in the armor in the second half.l
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 06, 2008, 08:47:50 PM
SU held on for a 30-28 win..... a ugly win is better than a loss.....need to tighten up special teams and pass coverage....cardiac offense was as usual, brilliant mis-direction one drive, putting the ball on the ground at other times, but we'll take a win over a good Albright  team getting votes in the poll @ their house.....something to build on........Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 08:56:59 PM
SUbacker

Albright must have changed their game plan at half time when the weather changed, And obviously they found a weakness or the Gulls relaxed to early.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 06, 2008, 09:30:14 PM
It's a good win for the Gulls, against a team that will compete for a MAC championship. SU came in with some questions experience-wise in the backfield and those guys stepped up. You have to give credit, Albright they fought hard until the end but Salisbury responded every time they got close. They played pretty good defense in the first half, only one first down and about 100 yards. Have to credit Albright for figuring out the 3-3-5 in the second half.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 09:36:41 PM
Sounds like Salisbury has some big backs again
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 07, 2008, 08:03:18 AM
pawesley, it would be nice to pick up another game.  hartwick is supposed to be a good squad so that would even be better and it would be another game against a D3 team.  we shall see if it happens.  i listened to the games yesterday, showed my intelligence by not driving all over to catch a game.  sounds like delval is struggling on defense which will not be a good thing for them next week.  iona sounds like the run the ball and the qb is active.  salisbury is salisbury, eventhough their announcers kept talking about them throwing more this year.  i am sure that the weather effected albright's game plan more than salisbury's, it showed in the 2nd half when they were finally able to throw the ball.  subacker is correct, the gulls responded everytime albright made it close.  ok, the missed week is behind us, time to get ready for the delval game, pawesley, i will be in touch for those directions to avoid some traffic.  it seems like we may have a small group of friends making the trip since it is close by.  talk to you later in the week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 07, 2008, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 08:31:34 PM
After doing a little research it seems that Hartwick has an open date on Sept  27th and has only 9 games..

Wesley has an open date on the 27th and also only has 9 games because of todays cancellation!  Why not?Huh? Ithaca and SJF both turned down Wesley for a game this year. Maybe Hartwick would take a crack at them?


 Thanks  ;)
Good game for both...

Non -region game for these teams but a good assessment for each!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 07, 2008, 11:06:44 PM
Conrad

I only got a little nibble yesterday.  ;) And that was from a SJF fan ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 08, 2008, 11:42:16 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 07, 2008, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 08:31:34 PM
After doing a little research it seems that Hartwick has an open date on Sept  27th and has only 9 games..

Wesley has an open date on the 27th and also only has 9 games because of todays cancellation!  Why not?Huh? Ithaca and SJF both turned down Wesley for a game this year. Maybe Hartwick would take a crack at them?


 Thanks  ;)
Good game for both...

Non -region game for these teams but a good assessment for each!

I agree, I think it's a good idea.  I'm sure a 9 game season could possibly hurt Wesley in getting a Pool B bid.  Somebody will have to ask Coach Drass on Wednesday!   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 08, 2008, 03:46:27 PM
predictions.....Salisbury big over Geneva-1st ever night home game for the Gulls, expecting big crowd and players to be p.o.'d after Albright scored 2 last minute td's last week ...35-14
Wesley to come out firing on all cylinders  @ DelVal- Wesley 28, DV 10
Apprentice over Virginia-Wise @ home 21-17
and my upset pick .....Frostburg over W&J at WJ 17-14....
Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 08, 2008, 03:51:40 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 06, 2008, 08:47:50 PM
SU held on for a 30-28 win..... a ugly win is better than a loss.....need to tighten up special teams and pass coverage....cardiac offense was as usual, brilliant mis-direction one drive, putting the ball on the ground at other times, but we'll take a win over a good Albright  team getting votes in the poll @ their house.....something to build on........Go Gulls!

I agree completely an ugly win beats a loss anyday!  Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 08, 2008, 10:28:36 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 08, 2008, 03:46:27 PM
predictions.....Salisbury big over Geneva-1st ever night home game for the Gulls, expecting big crowd and players to be p.o.'d after Albright scored 2 last minute td's last week ...35-14
Wesley to come out firing on all cylinders  @ DelVal- Wesley 28, DV 10
Apprentice over Virginia-Wise @ home 21-17
and my upset pick .....Frostburg over W&J at WJ 17-14....
Go Gulls!


UVA Wise is a pass-happy bunch (sounds similiar to Guilford) so I hope 17 points is right
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 10, 2008, 07:31:06 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2008, 08:31:34 PM
After doing a little research it seems that Hartwick has an open date on Sept  27th and has only 9 games..

Wesley has an open date on the 27th and also only has 9 games because of todays cancellation!  Why not?Huh? Ithaca and SJF both turned down Wesley for a game this year. Maybe Hartwick would take a crack at them?


  Thanks  ;)

Well I asked Coach Drass and he checked with Hartwick and another team in West Virginia.  Believe it or not, Hartwick turned him down. They were happy with their 9 game schedule. Incredible! What does Wesley have to do to play a schedule???  He is still waiting word back from the team in West Virginia.  Here's hoping.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 10, 2008, 10:23:33 PM
Ski

Are you making the trip to Pa this week? If so send me a message and I'll give you directions.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 10, 2008, 10:47:42 PM
I think I will.  My just-announced work schedule may strike any chance of getting to see the home games later on, so this may be my only chance >:(.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on September 11, 2008, 07:18:44 AM


Mates,

a dilemma in scheduuling has arisen.I have Phillies tickets for the Sat home fox game of the week and

I would like to see the Wolverines at Delval (a 45 min drive.Hmm? or can I wait to see them in late

November?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 11, 2008, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: muledaddy on September 11, 2008, 07:18:44 AM


Mates,

a dilemma in scheduuling has arisen.I have Phillies tickets for the Sat home fox game of the week and

I would like to see the Wolverines at Delval (a 45 min drive.Hmm? or can I wait to see them in late

November?

Funny, I don't see a dilemma.  It's football season for pete's sake!  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 11, 2008, 04:53:36 PM
Quote from: muledaddy on September 11, 2008, 07:18:44 AM


Mates,

a dilemma in scheduuling has arisen.I have Phillies tickets for the Sat home fox game of the week and

I would like to see the Wolverines at Delval (a 45 min drive.Hmm? or can I wait to see them in late

November?

Or you can wait to see the Phillies later  :-X What do you have a better chance of doing ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 11, 2008, 08:07:02 PM
time to talk about the game.  i will make my prediction on this site since it seems that the delval folks dont like it when someone has a different point of view when it comes to their beloved aggies :D.  the missed week has been annoying to me because i wanted to see some football.  i am not sure how it will effect the team, but dont see how it could be a negative.  delval played in trop storm hannah so they could not have gotten much out of that since it was a mess.  wesley is looking to get off to a strong start to make a statement for the season.  delval is a quality opponent, but if wesley plays the game to their capability it will not be close.  i think the offense will come out firing and when the smoke clears wesley will win 38 - 17.  i will be interested in seeing how the d line plays with the changes from last year, it was obvious in the scrimmage that the back 7 are very fast, any pressure from the dline will be an added bonus.  they will have to keep isgro from running all over the field, he is good.  hope to see a good showing of wesley support at the game, see you there
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 11, 2008, 08:56:41 PM
 Del Val showed that they can run the ball with Cook.  Isgro didn't get a lot of yards on the ground last week but is very dangerous outside the pocket running or passing. He has some good receivers to throw to.

Wesley has to stay focused early and not come out too over anxious. Wesley has two running backs (Jackson and Pennewell) who have rushed for 1000 yrds.,a tight end(Lanouette) that catches everything, a wideout(Beavers) who runs away from people and maybe the best return man in college football. Add to that TB
(Knight) and WO and punt returner (Neuman) and whoever else has a breakout year and with an experienced QB(Schatz) it will be tough to keep Wesley off the score board.

Del Val will have to keep the ball away from Wesley's potent Offense, keep Wesley from scoring quickly and score some points if they hope to pull off the big upset in Doylestown.
Wesley will have to keep Cook from getting 4 and 5 yrds a carry and keep Isgro from scrambling and making big plays. Wesley's Offense has to keep from turning over the ball.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on September 12, 2008, 10:09:14 AM
My unprofessional expert picks for Week 2:
XSUGULL season record: 1-0-2  ;D

Geneva at Salisbury
SU held on for the two-point win over Albright and Geneva fell to Seton Hill, 27-18. The Golden Tornadoes gave up 265 yards rushing and I see that total going up in Salisbury's first ever home night game. Last week the Sea Gulls ran for nearly 400 yards and I see the Gulls getting near that mark Saturday night. Salisbury 42, Geneva 20.

Virginia-Wise at Apprentice
The only thing I know about Virginia-Wise is that they went 8-2 last year. I do know about the Apprentice School having played against them. I'm going to take Virginia-Wise in this one. Virginia-Wise 28, Apprentice 18.

Wesley at Delaware Valley
I'm sure the Wolverines are anxious to get on the field since their game was postponed last week. I see an 'eager to play' Wesley team dominating this contest. Wesley 49, Delaware Valley 14.

Frostburg State at Washington & Jefferson
FSU has a new coach and they have had plenty of time to prepare for this game, however, W&J is a perennial power in the President's Athletic Conference. Its going to be tough for the Bobcats to pull the upset. W&J 42, FSU 13.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 12, 2008, 01:19:43 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on September 12, 2008, 10:09:14 AM
My unprofessional expert picks for Week 2:
XSUGULL season record: 1-0-2  ;D

Virginia-Wise at Apprentice
The only thing I know about Virginia-Wise is that they went 8-2 last year. I do know about the Apprentice School having played against them. I'm going to take Virginia-Wise in this one. Virginia-Wise 28, Apprentice 18.



Wise is ranked 14 in the NAIA Coaches Poll (and 13 in another).  They pass first and ask questions later ;D
QB threw for 330 and 7 touchdowns (5 in the first half) in their opener :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on September 12, 2008, 01:54:39 PM
Those are pretty big numbers. I saw there is a slight chance of rain in the Newport News area for Saturday. Hopefully the weather and some big plays on defense can slow down the Virginia-Wise passing attack.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 12, 2008, 04:38:03 PM
Crud....  I won't be able to catch the game.  I have a contractor that has to work on the house tommorow.  I guess it will be WDEL for this weekend.... :'(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 12, 2008, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 12, 2008, 04:38:03 PM
Crud....  I won't be able to catch the game.  I have a contractor that has to work on the house tommorow.  I guess it will be WDEL for this weekend.... :'(

-Ski

Ski ???

  During football season? Shame ;D

For anyone else traveling to Doylestown for the game. There is a chance for some rain so be prepared but the temps will be in the mid to high 80's. It will be damp as it has been raining here since late morning. Travel safe.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 09:34:47 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 12, 2008, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 12, 2008, 04:38:03 PM
Crud....  I won't be able to catch the game.  I have a contractor that has to work on the house tommorow.  I guess it will be WDEL for this weekend.... :'(

-Ski

Ski ???

  During football season? Shame ;D

For anyone else traveling to Doylestown for the game. There is a chance for some rain so be prepared but the temps will be in the mid to high 80's. It will be damp as it has been raining here since late morning. Travel safe.



Contractor or not, I got violently ill last night and am completely out of it right now.  So, either way, the football gremlins got me!  Enjoy the game.  I'll be listening.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 02:24:15 PM
OK, I  got my Pepto-Bismol next to me here and surviving (barely). 

A good solid first half for Wesley leading 16-0, except for the last 3 minutes.  A brace of missed passes, poor pass protection and a botched long snap kind of fouled that last bit.  However, two blocked field goals by Wesley kept the Aggies scoreless.  Jason Schatz wasn't on his game and some of his passes were overthrown with one a dropped interception.  With this being the first game, some mistakes will happen.  Wesley's running game was pretty potent, absorbing tons of clock time.   The only real mistake for Wesley's defence was a dropped coverage by the secondary that resulted in a big-time play that got the Aggies into the redzone.  Thanks to Marcus Wilson's blocked field goal, it didn't pay off.

About time for another cup of the good ole PB and the second half should be a good one.  Wesley held the Aggies to 0 yards in rushing.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 02:53:56 PM
Lovely, two fumbles for the Wesley offence to start out the 3rd quarter, one by Beavers (which was converted for a touchdown),  and the other by Pennywell.  The turnover jinx hasn't been broken.... :-[

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 03:03:36 PM
10 points off of turnovers.  Coach Drass has got to be pulling his hair out.  Wesley leads 16-10.   ::)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 03:24:05 PM
Wow, looks like another Montclair State game!  Blocked Wesley punt gives the Aggies good field position, and subesquently nail a touchdown pass.  Amazing.  Delaware Valley leads 17-16.  Gotta give DelVal credit for scoring 17 unanswered points.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 03:31:41 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 09:34:47 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 12, 2008, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 12, 2008, 04:38:03 PM
Crud....  I won't be able to catch the game.  I have a contractor that has to work on the house tommorow.  I guess it will be WDEL for this weekend.... :'(

-Ski

Ski ???

  During football season? Shame ;D

For anyone else traveling to Doylestown for the game. There is a chance for some rain so be prepared but the temps will be in the mid to high 80's. It will be damp as it has been raining here since late morning. Travel safe.



Contractor or not, I got violently ill last night and am completely out of it right now.  So, either way, the football gremlins got me!  Enjoy the game.  I'll be listening.

-Ski

That was the beer, ski. You should be beter now.....oh wait...17-16 DelVal.....you shoulda  had a few more last night! Sounds like a good game. Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 03:40:27 PM
McSweeney put in as QB.  Wesley survives 5 penalties to score on a McSweeney pass to Lannouette.  Penalty after penalty pushes Wesley back to the 20 yard line for the 2 point conversion which is missed.  Wesley 22-17.    The offense is NOT doing any favors here.  Thankfully McSweeney is passed decently.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 03:43:19 PM
Ski,

Change in QB.....performance issues or an injury?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 03:44:54 PM
I'm pretty sure it was performance based.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 03:55:12 PM
What a nailbiter!  Delval 4th and goal on the 1 with 15 seconds left in the game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 03:55:43 PM
wow....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 03:57:42 PM
 :(  ....And they score.  16 play 75 yard drive.  10 seconds left. Aggies 23-22 with a 2 point conversion to come.  Beavers will really have to pull this one out.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 04:03:17 PM
final????
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 04:05:23 PM
2 point conversion good after an injury time-out.  Aggies 25-22. So, Wesley will recieve with 10 seconds.......

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 04:06:08 PM
5 seconds left at wesley's 37.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 04:06:32 PM
Schatz in for the pass....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 04:07:16 PM
Yet another false start!  16th penalty for Wesley!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 04:10:15 PM
Cross your fingers, Ski. Buffalo just beat Temple on a hail mary.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2008, 04:10:22 PM
Congratulations to the Delaware Valley Aggies with a great victory.  25-22.  They fully deserved this victory.  To roll off 17 unanswered points like that is a true testiment to the team.

Well, well.  A TON of mistakes by Wesley once again worked against them.  They had the game won in the first half and the 2 turn overs in the 3rd gave the Aggies the opportinity to wear down the defense in the hot sun.   A lack-luster passing game that made Wesley one-dimensional and the 16 penalties committed by the team did not help.  I'm sure Coach Drass is furious.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 13, 2008, 06:32:05 PM
 Del Val took advantage of two fumbles and two personal foul calls in the third quarter. Wesley did block two field goal attempts but the special team play wasn't very good today. Del Val kicked to Beavers all day but Del Val had great coverage and Beavers had no room to do his magic. Wesley did move the ball very well on the ground  and Jackson and Pennewell both were probably over 100 yrds.
The Wesley D kept Cook in check but Isgro did his Houdini impersonation on some plays and he had lots of time late in the game to find receivers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 13, 2008, 08:15:30 PM
Salisbury 27, Geneva 0 at the end of the 3rd quarter under the lights for the first time ever at Sea Gull Stadium.  The announced attendance is 2,200.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 13, 2008, 08:18:49 PM
The Golden Tornadoes blocked a Salisbury punt and recovered on the Sea Gull one.  Geneva scores and missed the extra point for a Salisbury 27 Geneva 6 with 12:02 left in the ball game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 13, 2008, 08:26:47 PM
Bobby Sheahin runs for 51 yards on an option.  A few plays later Salisbury scored to make the score 34 - 6 in favor of the Gulls.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 13, 2008, 08:38:01 PM
Salisbury intercepts Geneva and scores on the next play to make the score 41-6 with six minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 13, 2008, 08:45:38 PM
Salisbury reserves score on the ground to make the score 48-6 with 1:30 left in the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 13, 2008, 08:52:36 PM
Final - Salisbury wins the first night game and 200th win in program history 48-6.  Next up for the Sea Gulls host the Christopher Newport Captains at Sea Gull Stadium at 1:00 PM.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 13, 2008, 09:23:25 PM
wow, not sure where to start.  what a disappointing second half for wesley.  way too many mistakes to win a game.

16 - 0 at the half, take the second half kickoff and go in a score and the game is pretty much over.  fumbles on the first 2 possessions lets delval back in the game.  follow that with a bad punt and suddenly delval leads 17 - 16.  same problem as last year.

the defense did not stop delval in the second half, the only time they did they roughed the punter giving delval the ball back.  how many 15 yard down and ins can a team run before something is done to take it away?  when you hold a team to 71 yards rushing, and rush for 260 +,  you should win the game, but wesley was gasping for air in the 4th quarter and the defense could not make a play when they needed to.

how big was the missed extra point in the first half, the game is tied at 24 with the last delval t d and goes to o t, not a delval win.

15 penalties, wow i didnt know there were that many, but the field did look cluttered at times.

both teams were one dimensional, wesley with the run and delval with the pass.  it seemed to me that delval was content with getting beat by the run, but they were not going to give up a big pass play.  they covered most of what wesley usually does and deserve plenty of credit.  they also seemed to blitz at the right time and pressured schatz on almost every play action pass in the first half.

pawesley, not sure if i totally agree with you about jason.  although jason did not have a good first half, several of the overthrows were as a result of pressure and he seemed to throw them away.  this was not his best game, but it certainly was not his worst.

teamski, i am not sure what they were saying on the radio, but if jason was removed based on performance, why wasnt he taken out of the game at half time.  he was removed after the 2nd possession of the second half, both which ended with fumbles.  if the offensive coordinator was unhappy with the first half, why did jason start the second half.  he did not throw a pass in the second half until the last play of the game.  usually you change a qb for a change of pace, the play calling was the same after mcsweeney went in with similar results.  no big plays.

i believe that wesley was outcoached in the second half as they had no answer for what delval was doing on offense.  wesley also did not seem to make any adjustments on offense to get the passing game going, although i dont think they should have as the run was so successful.

luckily, the boys have another game next week to get things going in the right direction and prove that the preseason hype was not a mistake. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 13, 2008, 10:38:37 PM
What does this do to Wesley's chances of making the playoffs?  With them playing one less game and no automatic bid from the conference, it can't help.  I bet SU can't wait to get their hands on this tape since they play both teams this year.  I would think they may need some help from other teams to make it now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 13, 2008, 10:42:13 PM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on September 13, 2008, 10:38:37 PM
What does this do to Wesley's chances of making the playoffs?  With them playing one less game and no automatic bid from the conference, it can't help.  I bet SU can't wait to get their hands on this tape since they play both teams this year.  I would think they may need some help from other teams to make it now.
It knocks a big hole in them!

We have three Pool B bids.  Huntingdon can get one if they sweep their conference and beat HSC.

The UAA has found a way to get good numbers for the committee to review.  Look for one to break thru.

The Northwest Conference is now Pool A.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on September 13, 2008, 10:44:55 PM
Bigtoe:

That depends on how many Pool B bids the NCAA allocates for independents and members of conferences with less than seven teams.  It'll be announced later in the season.  Keep in mind that the NWC has an automatic bid this year, which narrows the pool.

If there are three Pool B bids, I still think Wesley gets in without too much drama.  If there are two, they still have a good chance by running the table.  Either way the Salisbury game is huge now.

Still a lot of season left to play and Wesley has a TON of talent.  Pennewell, Wilson, etc.  This team is far from done.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 13, 2008, 10:49:07 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 13, 2008, 09:23:25 PM
wow, not sure where to start.  what a disappointing second half for wesley.  way too many mistakes to win a game.

16 - 0 at the half, take the second half kickoff and go in a score and the game is pretty much over.  fumbles on the first 2 possessions lets delval back in the game.  follow that with a bad punt and suddenly delval leads 17 - 16.  same problem as last year.

the defense did not stop delval in the second half, the only time they did they roughed the punter giving delval the ball back.  how many 15 yard down and ins can a team run before something is done to take it away?  when you hold a team to 71 yards rushing, and rush for 260 +,  you should win the game, but wesley was gasping for air in the 4th quarter and the defense could not make a play when they needed to.

how big was the missed extra point in the first half, the game is tied at 24 with the last delval t d and goes to o t, not a delval win.

15 penalties, wow i didnt know there were that many, but the field did look cluttered at times.

both teams were one dimensional, wesley with the run and delval with the pass.  it seemed to me that delval was content with getting beat by the run, but they were not going to give up a big pass play.  they covered most of what wesley usually does and deserve plenty of credit.  they also seemed to blitz at the right time and pressured schatz on almost every play action pass in the first half.

pawesley, not sure if i totally agree with you about jason.  although jason did not have a good first half, several of the overthrows were as a result of pressure and he seemed to throw them away.  this was not his best game, but it certainly was not his worst.

teamski, i am not sure what they were saying on the radio, but if jason was removed based on performance, why wasnt he taken out of the game at half time.  he was removed after the 2nd possession of the second half, both which ended with fumbles.  if the offensive coordinator was unhappy with the first half, why did jason start the second half.  he did not throw a pass in the second half until the last play of the game.  usually you change a qb for a change of pace, the play calling was the same after mcsweeney went in with similar results.  no big plays.

i believe that wesley was outcoached in the second half as they had no answer for what delval was doing on offense.  wesley also did not seem to make any adjustments on offense to get the passing game going, although i dont think they should have as the run was so successful.

luckily, the boys have another game next week to get things going in the right direction and prove that the preseason hype was not a mistake. 


wesleydad

I did not comment on Jason. Was someone elses post.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 13, 2008, 10:55:08 PM
gordon

I agree running the table will help, but with only 5 in region games it will be tough.
But with Widener,Del Val and Salisbury the quality points should be high.

ralph

Even though the game was cancelled can Wesley still get Quality Pts from CNU ???
Just a thought ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 13, 2008, 11:11:51 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 13, 2008, 10:55:08 PM
gordon

I agree running the table will help, but with only 5 in region games it will be tough.
But with Widener,Del Val and Salisbury the quality points should be high.

ralph

Even though the game was canceled can Wesley still get Quality Pts from CNU ???
Just a thought ;D
I don't think so.  There is no game outcome to evaluate.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on September 13, 2008, 11:15:03 PM
Video Highlights from the Wesley/Delaware Valley Game.

http://wdel.com/video?v=wesleydv.wmv

(Best viewed with Internet Explorer)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 14, 2008, 07:47:55 AM
pawesley, sorry if i got the wrong name from the post. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on September 14, 2008, 11:53:51 AM


Wesleydad,

As you said earlier, "its time to talk about the game......it will not be close....
Wesley will win 38-17..."
for giving me a sesson in what not to say or do this year
Thank you, reminding me that humility, rather than arrogance and overconfidence,
is a quality to seek.

I pray that I do not make the same fatal mistake as you did in this one;no guarantees, only my prayers.

Have a good rest of the season...there is something to be said for anonymity...I could feel the
pressure on your son before the game ever started...............
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on September 14, 2008, 02:02:31 PM


  Delval Aggies,

Congrats on a hard fought come from behind victory,earned the old fashioned way....hard work.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleyrocks833 on September 14, 2008, 02:28:57 PM
Okay there were numerous problems in the Wesley game against Del Val. One of them being penalties. There were too many that hurt WC and ended up being scores. They were all very stupid mistakes as well.
Another being the inaccuracy of Jason Schatz. He was terribly inaccurate and failed to complete passes. I applaud the insertion of Shane McSweeny and his big TD in that game. McSweeny pulled through with that TD. That, I think was a good call to put McSweeny in by the coaches.
Another was fumbles. There were, simply,  too many.
The defense couldnt make stops when they were needed.

There are many many more but these were the big ones. Now Im a gigantic Chris Warrick fan and was devastated to see him graduate. But lets face it, if we still had Warrick then we probably would have stomped Del Val.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 14, 2008, 02:41:03 PM
muledaddy, making a prediction that a team will win has nothing to do with arrogance or overconfidence.  it is the way i saw the game play out based on what i knew of both teams.  i did not guarentee anything.  at the half, i dont think too many people watching the game thought that it was going to be any closer than it was at halftime.  i love all the monday morning qb's that show up and profess they knew it would end up the way it did.  i will continue to voice my opinion, as it is only that, an opinion.  i am not afraid to be wrong, i wasnt the only one around here on this game.  if you dont want to be wrong, dont make a decision.  enjoy your season of not going out on a limb in support of the mules, maybe they will play better if noone predicts they may beat someone easily ;D.

as far as feeling the pressure on my son before the game even started based on the fact that some people know i am his father is comical.  i guess he made some bad plays because i predicted that they would win.  with that statement, i figure that you dont talk to your son about the game nor discuss how the game should go if everyone does their job.  doenst make for much conversation.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on September 14, 2008, 03:48:07 PM

Wesleydad,

Let's just hope  that we can both see our boys face off in November...a long way down the road

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 15, 2008, 10:35:54 AM
Quote from: muledaddy on September 14, 2008, 02:02:31 PM


  Delval Aggies,

Congrats on a hard fought come from behind victory,earned the old fashioned way....hard work.

Shouldn't this be on the MAC board?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2008, 09:41:06 PM
Nnasid

How many scholarship players does  Wise have now? What happened with the game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 16, 2008, 07:08:51 PM
  OK, I had a off week to say the least as far as my predictions go, thanks to my Gulls keeping me from going O -fer......but I feel very strongly that the conference sweeps all 4 games this week!  My Gulls keep rolling in a close game over a always tough CNU team-watch the trick plays boys!! Always a halfback pass, fake punt or something of that type with CNU - be ready and make them pay! Wesley rebounds from a first week stumble and puts it on Widener down Dover way. Frostburg gets it going too beating the boys from Brockport-that trip from upstate NY is always tough. And NNA blows out George Mason taking out last week's frustration on them. I won't go with scores, but I feel confident the ACFC takes all.
As always stay safe and GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on September 18, 2008, 10:01:26 AM
My unprofessional expert picks for Week 3:
XSUGULL season record: 4-1-2*

Christopher Newport at Salisbury
This has become a pretty competitive rivalry over the years. The Sea Gulls avenged the devastating 2004 home playoff loss with a big win in 2005 but SU hasn't been able to knock off the Captains at Sea Gull Stadium. In CNU's last two trips to Salisbury the Captains have come out on top. It seems that the road team has had the upper hand in this match-up over the last four years. The big difference in this game is that SU has two games under its belt while CNU has yet to play a game. I think Salisbury gets a big home win over the Captains. Salisbury 38, CNU 17.

Widener at Wesley
I was probably as shocked as anyone on this board when I saw the final score to the Delaware Valley-Wesley game last week. I thought the Wolves had too much fire power on offense to let that game slip away. Regardless, I think Wesley will come out with a chip on its shoulder for its home opener. Wesley 28, Widener 10.

Apprentice School at George Mason Club
I can bet the Shipbuilders worked on their pass defense this week after Virginia-Wise's start QB went 18-for-18 with a handful of touchdown tosses. Apprentice will show improvement on defense and they will score some points but I think George Mason will come out on top. George Mason 24, Apprentice 17.

SUNY-Brockport at Frostburg State
The Golden Eagles are 1-0 with an overtime win and Frostburg lost to a very good W&J team. I think FSU and their new coach are getting close to getting the Bobcats back on track but not yet. I like Brockport in a fairly close game. SUNY-Brockport 27, Frostburg State 17.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 18, 2008, 10:16:17 AM
ACFC Prediction - 9/20/2008

Salisbury over CNU thanks to the Gulls depth, and as XSUGull has mentioned about the Gulls 2 game experience against a CNU team that may experience opening game jitters.

Wesley over Widener with the Wolverines "ticked-off" after the opening loss to Delaware Valley.  Additionally, the Wolverines are now in a "must win" mentality with every game for the rest of the season.

Apprentice School over George Mason big time.

SUNY-B-Port over Frostburg State as the Bobcats continue their climb back to respectability.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 18, 2008, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 15, 2008, 09:41:06 PM
Nnasid

How many scholarship players does  Wise have now? What happened with the game?

I'll be honest I am not sure how many scholarship players, but they're darn good.  The effort was there, we couldnt punch it in.   They play that hard the rest of the season, we'll be in games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 19, 2008, 09:34:19 PM
time to talk about the game.  since i am not sure about who will start at Qb for wesley i will have to figure out what is going to happen.  i believe that wesley is better and should win.  i dont think that widener can take advantage of the problems that wesley had last week on defense.  wesley wins 35-10.  widener can not score much.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 20, 2008, 09:06:21 AM
Well, Wesley did a great job at Widener last year, having a strong second half to win the game.  I'm hoping that extra fumble drills this week and having a game under the belt will help settle the team into doing what it is capable of.  Due to work, this will probably be the only game I'll catch this year.  :'(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on September 20, 2008, 10:01:12 AM


Ski,


  enjoy the game...it a beautiful day, a racing weekend, and Dover will shine with a hardfought victory in the end........I think
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 20, 2008, 02:01:43 PM
Anybody got any score updates?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 20, 2008, 04:17:43 PM
Well, Wesley had a pretty good outing today, beating out Widener, 41-9.  McSweeney started as QB and did a sterling job passing when Wesley's running game started to falter.  He did a pretty bang-up job running himself and his passing was really accurate as well.  Schatz came in to play in the 4th and did a good job finishing the game up.

That said, mistakes and penalties stopped 3 Wesley drives deep into the redzone.  12 penalties (8 in the first half alone) and 2 turnovers for the game.  So, still a lot of work for Coach Drass in getting the team discipline up to par.    But, I feel the team is getting it's feet.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: redswarm81 on September 20, 2008, 08:03:09 PM
Quote from: luvapontiac on September 20, 2008, 02:01:43 PM
Anybody got any score updates?

Newport News 28, George Mason Club 10

I just got back from watching the second half.  I wouldn't read anything into the win.  I wasn't impressed with Mason's size, conditioning, or preparedness.

Newport News has some speed and some flash--not much size--but I'm not sure how well that flash will work against a disciplined team, which Mason ain't.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 20, 2008, 11:20:20 PM
 The way the referees were throwing flags toady I am suprised they didn't flag the fire siren when it went off in the third quarter. I don't understand how a Widener player twice flips the ball at Wesley players and gets a delay of game penalty and Beavers points a first down after a catch  and gets an unsportsmanlike penalty.

   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 21, 2008, 05:27:18 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 20, 2008, 11:20:20 PM
The way the referees were throwing flags toady I am suprised they didn't flag the fire siren when it went off in the third quarter. I don't understand how a Widener player twice flips the ball at Wesley players and gets a delay of game penalty and Beavers points a first down after a catch  and gets an unsportsmanlike penalty.

   

I couldn't figure that out either. ???  I had to add to the booing myself.   :-*

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 21, 2008, 09:42:37 AM
ski

the best of and this proves my point happened near the end of the game. the back judge, who couldn't get involved enough, :o reached for his flag after a tackle and waited for someone to say something. i wonder what he would have called had he not missed grabbing it the first time   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 21, 2008, 05:17:11 PM
Quote from: luvapontiac on September 20, 2008, 02:01:43 PM
Anybody got any score updates?

All of the ACFC games were being updated on the D3football.com Scoreboard yesterday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 22, 2008, 10:16:01 AM
Congratulations to Salisbury, Wesley, Apprentice, and Frostburg State.  It was a banner week for the ACFC with Frostburg with a surprise victory over former ACFC B-Port State.

Salisbury finally got over the hump and beat CNU at home while Wesley took out it's loss last week on Widener.  Apprentice School had no problem with GMU, and the Frostburg State Bobcats took it to B-Port State.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on September 22, 2008, 12:15:09 PM
In looking over the stats I can see what you mean about the yellow flags. 21 penalties 180yds combined.
they do not break them down, but it looks like a lot of 5yd type plus a few extra thrown in.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 24, 2008, 08:29:48 AM
Wow, this  board has been awfully quiet over the past few days.  The Gulls are getting ready for the Delaware Valley Aggies.  Hope Coach Wood has that Wesley tape, and the staff is reviewing it intensely.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on September 24, 2008, 04:38:05 PM


Gull fans,

How does it look for saturday in Doylestown, home of the Aggies?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 24, 2008, 05:30:35 PM
nj,

pretty quiet because wesley is not playing this week and it seems that most of us who post on here talk about wesley.

i agree, i would think that they would look at the tape as wesley averaged 6+ yards a carry against delval.  salisbury is more committed to the run than wesley is so they have to think they can run the ball.  i also think that delval knows they can not give up that many yards per carry so i figure they will change up the d a little.  remember, if wesley doesnt turn the ball over the game may not have been very close.  since i have not seen salisbury play i am not sure about their big play capabilities compared to wesley.  if delval doesnt think they have to keep everything in front of them, then they will try to stop the run with the potential pass over the top not as much of a worry.  delval played a very good game on d, but gave up yards.  on offense, they took advantage of what was given to them and made big plays when they needed them.  they have a good qb who makes things happen.  i expect a good football game and will be making the trip to see it as the wolverines are off.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 24, 2008, 09:28:30 PM
    Congrats to all the ACFC teams in sweeping last weekend..... I was at the SU vs. CNU game......Salisbury put a very good effort in against CNU and although SU won by 17 points it never seemed like the outcome was ever in doubt, even when CNU capitalized on a dumb excessive celebration penalty and a recovered onside kick to score a couple of td's late in the game.
    NJ, you're right about it being a little quiet, but with Frostburg getting better maybe some of their people will get going too.
    Wesleydad, I don't understand what is going on over there in Dover, all Jason can do is practice and play as hard as he can, and I am sure that he is already doing that. I wish you guys well (until you play SU that is!) and hope it works out for his senior year. 
      Delaware Valley will be a tough game -no doubt about it, but I think SU is as prepared as I have seen them and I am in my 6th season watching them. I think they are a touchdown better than DV, as long as SU doesn't put the ball on the ground, they get it done.
Hope they all come out healthy and GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 25, 2008, 08:31:37 AM
Quote from: muledaddy on September 24, 2008, 04:38:05 PM


Gull fans,

How does it look for saturday in Doylestown, home of the Aggies?


It does not good for me as I have plans that cannot be changed.  Fortunately these plans are indoor this weekend.  Gull luck to all Gull fans and all fans in general travelling in what is forecast as inclement weather.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 25, 2008, 08:39:28 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 24, 2008, 05:30:35 PM
nj,

pretty quiet because wesley is not playing this week and it seems that most of us who post on here talk about wesley.

i agree, i would think that they would look at the tape as wesley averaged 6+ yards a carry against delval.  salisbury is more committed to the run than wesley is so they have to think they can run the ball.  i also think that delval knows they can not give up that many yards per carry so i figure they will change up the d a little.  remember, if wesley doesnt turn the ball over the game may not have been very close.  since i have not seen salisbury play i am not sure about their big play capabilities compared to wesley.  if delval doesnt think they have to keep everything in front of them, then they will try to stop the run with the potential pass over the top not as much of a worry.  delval played a very good game on d, but gave up yards.  on offense, they took advantage of what was given to them and made big plays when they needed them.  they have a good qb who makes things happen.  i expect a good football game and will be making the trip to see it as the wolverines are off.

wesleydad:

Salisbury has a few fans on the board also with SU Backer, XSUGull, luvapontiac along with yours truly  ;D .

The Gulls have big play capabilities on the ground.  I believe Salisbury have two plays from scrimmage for 40 and 50 yards with the QB scoring.  I think due to the anticipated inclement weather, the running game of Salisbury should be an advantage if as SU Backer has commented, the Gulls don't put the ball on the ground.  I see from Del Valley's website their field is grass, and this game maybe one of those quagmire contests.  I hope both teams come out injury free with Salisbury on top.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 25, 2008, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 24, 2008, 09:28:30 PM
    NJ, you're right about it being a little quiet, but with Frostburg getting better maybe some of their people will get going too.

SU Backer:

I followed the Salisbury game on the internet broadcast through WICO, and it sounded as if the Gulls were slow out of the gate, but Coach Wood and the Staff must have lit a fire under the boys during halftime.  That QB dash at the start of the second half seemed to have taken the sails   ;D  out of the Captains.

The Frostburg results really shocked me  :o.  It seems like the Bobcats are "turning the corner".  If Frostsburg continues to play like that, the Reagents Cup will be really interesting.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on September 25, 2008, 03:19:55 PM
I haven't been able to make it to a Salisbury game this year but looking at stats a few things jump out at me. Salisbury has already put the ball on the turf 11 times and it lost five of those fumbles. After three games last season Salisbury had seven fumbles with only one they didn't get back. Fumbles are going to happen when you run the option, its just part of the game. But last week against a Christopher Newport the Sea Gulls put the ball on the ground five times and let CNU recover three of those. If Salisbury wants to improve to 4-0 on the season they have to limit their fumbles (especially fumbles lost).

Another thing I've noticed is that the passing attack has gone down. I'm no fool and I know that Salisbury would love to run for 500 yards a game without even putting the ball in the air, but every now and then its nice to keep a defense honest. Right now Salisbury is 14-of-30 (46 percent) for 115 yards and one touchdown. At this point last season SU was 15-of-27 (55 percent) for 314 yards and three touchdowns. Salisbury does have some different personnel on the offensive side of the ball but they still have their "throwing" quarterback (Bobby Sheahin) and their top receiver from last year (Kevin Tillage). Tillage only has one catch this season for 34 yards. I'm not sure why the Sea Gulls haven't had as much success throwing the ball this season but if they want to be able to run the ball effectively against Delaware Valley they are going to have to hit some passes to keep the eighth and ninth man out of the box.

Those are just a few things I've noticed from Salisbury this season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 25, 2008, 04:35:14 PM
To any Gulls fans making the trip to Doylestown take the Pa. turnpike east to Willow Grove. Take 611 N to Doylestown bear left onto 611 bypass. Take 202 S.you'll see sign for Doylestown Hosp. At the end of the ramp turn right and go about 1/2 mile.
the football stadium parking is on your left. Do not turn at the first sign for the college. The next light is you turn. trip is about  two hours from Dover.

RT1 N to Christiana. RT 95 N(use RT 495 around Wilmington) Take RT 476 N to East/West Pa Turnpike. Willow Grove is 8 mi. Take 611 N to 202 S to  DelVal
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on September 26, 2008, 09:47:35 AM
My unprofessional expert picks for Week 4:
XSUGULL season record: 6-3-2*

Salisbury at Delaware Valley
I gave my thoughts on Salisbury in an earlier post. If you missed it I talked about the Sea Gulls' fumbling issues and their decline in the pass game (compared to last year) through the early part of the season. I'm not too sure that coach Wood & co. are as worried about the drop in the passing attack as much as they are about putting the ball on the turf 11 times in the first three games. The weather is calling for rain which shouldn't hamper the SU ground game (albeit, they could be more likely to fumble). I don't think the Sea Gulls will be looking too far ahead, especially after Del. Valley shocked Wesley a few weeks back. This could be a defensive battle with a few big plays from Salisbury deciding the outcome. Salisbury 21, Delaware Valley 13.

Widener at Frostburg State
I'm sure that no one on the Bobcats roster was surprised when they defeated SUNY-Brockport last week but I sure was. It's good to see FSU getting back to where it once was in the ACFC. I still have difficultly picking the Bobcats to win. I think its close but I like Widener in this one. Widener 27, Frostburg State 14.

Apprentice at FDU-Florham
Apprentice was fairly balanced on offense last week as they scored one touchdown every quarter on its way to a 28-10 win. FDU has a one-point win over TCNJ and a one-touchdown loss to Alfred under its belt. If Apprentice can continue to be balanced on offense I think they can get the win. Apprentice 24, FDU-Florham 14.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on September 26, 2008, 10:00:35 AM
If any Wesley fans are bored with the bye week...


No. 6 Salisbury
vs.
Delaware Valley

Broadcast begins with pregame coverage at 12:40 pm, kickoff at 1 pm.  Click here (http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/asxfiles-live/il83winlive3147.asx) to listen.

Broadcasts require Windows Media Player 9.0 or later to listen.

NJLincolnLion:

I'll even throw in a Kyle Myrick reference for you. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 26, 2008, 10:50:06 AM
Gordon ---
Is Rissinger back at d-end for the Aggies yet? He could be a boost for the Del Val defense.

The field should be in good shape. It held up well after the Iona game and looked great for the Wesley game.  I don't think the field will be a quagmire, the ball will just be wet and slippery.

Should be a good contest. I agree with XSUgull, turnovers and Salisbury's ability to make plays in the pass game will be big factors.

I wasn't impressed with the Aggie run game (stop Cook before he gets going), but Isgro is terrific. He keeps a lot of plays alive with his feet but also is very accurate from the pocket. SU should go after him and make him get rid of it quick. He has some sure-handed receivers but nobody that's going to run away from the speedy Gull secondary.

Salisbury has a brutal schedule, they may slip up one of these weeks, but it's hard to tell whether it will be this this one.

I think Widener/Frostburg is a close game. I may even give the Bobcats the edge. The Pride has quarterback problems, the starter isn't going to beat you with his arm. The run game hasn't been very good either and FSU has always played good defense. Nine points against Wesley and seven against a NC Wesleyan team that lost a lot from last year, 14 points may win this game for FSU.

It looks like FSU's QB has been very efficient this year so far. He'll need to be on Sat., Widener blitzed Wesley alot last week out of their 3-4 alignment. The Bobcats will need to make them pay by hitting some big plays down the field. That's something they've struggled with in recent years and even if last week's win there didn't appear to be many big yardage plays.

Finally, Frostburg is a tough place to play. The Bobcats are always tough at home. It'a long trip to the middle of nowhere.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 26, 2008, 03:56:19 PM
gordan, if any wesley fans are bored and are within a 2 hour drive, they should go to the game.  nothing against your broadcast as i have heard you before and you do a fine job, but seeing it live will give us a chance to see how we stack up against salisbury.  we know what wesley looked like against delval, tale of 2 halves, so we can find out what will need to be done to beat salisbury.  i will be making the trip up since it is only an hour for me.  pawesley, let me know if you are making it, i should get there about 12, unless the rain that did not come the last 2 days decides to show up tomorrow.

xsu, i am not sure what frostburg has on defense, but after watching widener last week i would be surprized if they scored 14 much less 24.  not many weapons on offense.

dont know about any other wesley fan, but it doesnt feel like the season even started yet with the missed week and the bye.  games every week from here on out :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2008, 09:02:28 PM
wesleydad

I am not going to get to the game.  I have to work and then I have a previous engagement to make up for missing last week  ;D

  btw Harrah's Chester treated me the same as Dover Downs does  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on September 26, 2008, 09:05:45 PM
WesleyDad:

True enough.  Can't blame me for trying to drum up listeners though.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 26, 2008, 10:57:57 PM
pawesley, if that means you left with less than you came with, then that it the way i usually get treated also.

gordan, i understand about drumming up business.  maybe i will see you there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 27, 2008, 10:10:17 AM
In the home games that I have seen at Salisbury, they have had their opportunities in the passing game.  Tillage has dropped a few passes this year, one I remember was in the endzone.  SU will have success in the running game and Delval will be successful passing on SU's defense.  It will be a matter of who is able to hit the big play.

Gordonmann, I'll tune in at 1pm!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 27, 2008, 11:59:34 AM
This will be a very interesting game.  Good luck Salisbury!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 27, 2008, 01:37:40 PM
SU 7 Del VAl 7 2nd quarter.

Both teams have turned the ball over in the others territory once. Both scored on other possession.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 27, 2008, 01:43:07 PM
Frostburg trials Widener 13-3 in the first quarter. New starter at QB for the Pride this week.

Bobcats have turned it over twice, one a pick 6, the gave Widener the ball at the 20.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 27, 2008, 02:09:32 PM
Salisbury using QB Curley at receiver too. He makes big third down catch on late 2nd quarter drive. That sets up a Sheahin pass to Tillage from 33 yards to put Gulls up 20-14. They miss the extra point.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 27, 2008, 05:30:18 PM
just got back from the delval/salisbury game.  there is no doubt who the better team was today.  delval was able to do what they wanted on offense, run or pass.  i think they had over 450 yards of total offense.  salisbury was not able to contain the run and the cornerbacks got lost on some big plays when it was an obvious passing situation.  salisbury was able to move the ball in the first half, but just like the wesley game the delval coaches made some adjustments and shut down the gulls.  if chandler is hurt and misses any games the gulls defensive front will be in trouble, he did not have a very good game today and delval ran at him as much as they ran away from him.  if i compare the 2 games, wesley/delval and todays game i believe that wesley is clearly better than salisbury.  wesley did not play a very good game with all the penalties and 2 fumbles yet still contained delval's offense and lost with 10 seconds to go.  salisbury has no excuses today, they got beat.  delval is a very good football team and will certainly be ranked this week, i would think in the top 15.  they have to be the favorite in the mac.

looking forward to next weeks game with frostburg.  i see that widener changed qb's and generated some offense today.  time for wesley to start their run to the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 27, 2008, 06:00:41 PM
not a good day for the ACFC

Builders lose 23-21 at FDU-Florham (two scores in the first six minutes of the fourth - even statistically we rushed for 15 more yards, they passed for 15 more yards, each team had 17 first downs and turned it over twice)

Frostburg rallies and falls, while Salisbury falls at Del Val
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 28, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
    Not a good day for my Gulls....I listened to the first half and it sounded like they were doing fine. I had a family function and couldn't listen in on the second half, but it looks like they just plain got beat by DelVal. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you I guess.  Congrats to DV. Mobile quarterbacks give a lot of teams trouble and we look like we were not up to the challenge today. I thought the #6 ranking was too high going in, and feel somewhere in the 2nd half of the top 25 was more realistic. I think they stay ranked, but in the 15-25 range.  I think that the St John Fisher game will be a gut check game and a must win for SU to get in the playoff hunt. The loss of pre-season All American Jarell Chandler is a big blow, as well as one of the nose tackles being  hurt and out of the rotation for this game, which kills a 3 man front. I think they bounce back this week (sorry NNASID) and beat Newport News. Man I wish they could get in a conference with a AQ, as it is they (and everybody else in the ACFC) face a double edged sword of  having to play a very tough schedule to get playoff consideration, but also only being "allowed" to lose one game to one of those teams to be in the hunt for a at large bid. Is there any thought on getting the independants and non-aq teams together? As a coach it has to be hard to get games and the Conference Championship is pretty diminshed with a 4 team conference.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 30, 2008, 08:36:23 AM
Quote from: gordonmann on September 26, 2008, 10:00:35 AM
If any Wesley fans are bored with the bye week...


No. 6 Salisbury
vs.
Delaware Valley

Broadcast begins with pregame coverage at 12:40 pm, kickoff at 1 pm.  Click here (http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/asxfiles-live/il83winlive3147.asx) to listen.

Broadcasts require Windows Media Player 9.0 or later to listen.

NJLincolnLion:

I'll even throw in a Kyle Myrick reference for you. :)

gordonmann:

Glad to hear from you!  I listened to the broadcast, and as usual, you guys did an great job!.  As the cliche goes, on "Any Given Saturday", and it was the Aggies Saturday.

Thanks for throwing in the Kyle Myrick reference  :).  The Lions could use a couple of Kyle Myricks this upcoming season, since the CIAA is no joke!

Keep up the good work!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 30, 2008, 09:00:48 AM
Salisbury losing Chandler on the defense for the season gave me a flashback to a few years ago when the Gulls lost QB Dustin Johnson for the season.  It's going to be tough remaider of the season for the maroon and gold.  Good Luck Jarrell and get well soon!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 01, 2008, 03:51:48 PM
There is no question that the loss of Jarrell Chandler will hurt the defense for Salisbury, however, as the old saying goes, you are only as good as the last man on your bench. I know there are other players that are ready to step up in Chandler's absence and keep the Sea Gulls afloat. Two names that come to mind that are going to be leaned upon a bit more are McCall Tyler and Paul Cynewski.

njlincolnlion: You mentioned that the injury to Chandler gave you a flashback to when the Sea Gulls lost Dustin Johnson for the year back in 2005. That team ended up going 8-3 and won the school's first ECAC Bowl game. Both are/were devastating losses but I'm confident that the Sea Gulls, like in '05, will be able to keep things going in the right direction. The interesting thing is that after Johnson got injured SU's next opponent was the Apprentice School. Salisbury set a school-record for points in a game with a 77-13 win (the record was broke last year). Salisbury's foe this week is that same Apprentice School team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 01, 2008, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on October 01, 2008, 03:51:48 PM
There is no question that the loss of Jarrell Chandler will hurt the defense for Salisbury, however, as the old saying goes, you are only as good as the last man on your bench. I know there are other players that are ready to step up in Chandler's absence and keep the Sea Gulls afloat. Two names that come to mind that are going to be leaned upon a bit more are McCall Tyler and Paul Cynewski.

njlincolnlion: You mentioned that the injury to Chandler gave you a flashback to when the Sea Gulls lost Dustin Johnson for the year back in 2005. That team ended up going 8-3 and won the school's first ECAC Bowl game. Both are/were devastating losses but I'm confident that the Sea Gulls, like in '05, will be able to keep things going in the right direction. The interesting thing is that after Johnson got injured SU's next opponent was the Apprentice School. Salisbury set a school-record for points in a game with a 77-13 win (the record was broke last year). Salisbury's foe this week is that same Apprentice School team.

Thanks XSU.  It took me a year after that game not to look at a Sea Gull and not have a case of the shakes ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 03, 2008, 09:11:33 AM
My unprofessional expert picks for Week 5:
XSUGULL season record: 7-5-2*

Salisbury vs. Apprentice School
Like Wesley, the Sea Gulls' playoffs start a bit early. If they have any hopes of an NCAA postseasn they are going to have to win out. I've said this before and I still believe it; the Apprentice School plays the triple option very well. They know their assignments and stick to it. What has given them issues in the past is when Salisbury has run counters. When SU does that the aggresive Apprentice defense has got in trouble. I like Coach Wood and Fleetwood to draw up a good game plan as Salisbury gets back on track. Salisbury 41, Apprentice School 14.

Wesley vs. Frostburg State
Frostburg has continued to show improvement with their new head coach but I think his ACFC opener is going to be rough. I think the Wolverines have too much fire power for the Bobcats to keep up with. I like the Wolves to put up some big offensive numbers in this one. Wesley 45, Frostburg State 13.


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 03, 2008, 03:06:55 PM
Getting ready to leave for the ride to Frostburg St. for the game.  Nice weather expected for the weekend so that will not effect anything.  I agree with XSU, wesley will likely put up some big numbers as widener was able to do so and widener was totally ineffective against wesley on offense.  if anyone is making the trip we will see you there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Olinemom on October 03, 2008, 04:15:44 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 03, 2008, 03:06:55 PM
Getting ready to leave for the ride to Frostburg St. for the game.  Nice weather expected for the weekend so that will not effect anything.  I agree with XSU, wesley will likely put up some big numbers as widener was able to do so and widener was totally ineffective against wesley on offense.  if anyone is making the trip we will see you there.

Have a good game!!!  While Llamaguy is in Cancun, Hampden-Sydney is coming to Bridgewater.  I don't think it will have a happy ending.  :( :( Well maybe for the Tigers, unless our kids play a whole game, which has been a problem so far!!!!  Olinemom
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 04, 2008, 04:33:37 PM
Well, Wesley beat Frostburg St. 38-6.  I was only able to catch about 5 minutes of the game early in the 2nd quarter and already, Wesley had racked up 5 penalties, 2 of which negated interceptions by the secondary even though they were 21-0 up!  :-\  Onto next week.  Looking forward to a game report from the usual sources!  :)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 04, 2008, 06:43:32 PM
9 Penalties for 64 yards with NO turnovers.  Definately better than the 2 previous games.  Wesley led  the game, 28-0 at the half.  Great job by Larry beavers, 4 receptions for 111 yards including a 44 yarder.  Pennewell had 20 runs for 95 yards as well.  McSweeney did good. 14 of 17 for 289 yards and 3 touchdowns with no interceptions.  Keep this up and Wesley will get out of it's funk get back to the game it has been known to dole out!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 04, 2008, 09:18:48 PM
ski

two of the penalties were questionable according to the radio crew. one drive was 97 yrds and a second was 99yrds. frostburg got 70 of their 169 yrds on one play in the 4t quarter
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 05, 2008, 12:36:28 PM
just got back from frostburg.  nice area and an easy drive back home.  the game was as expected, wesley controlled the ball and was able to run or pass.  the 2 penalties that negated interceptions, one was d offsides, the other was questionable for a late hit to the qb, helmet to helmet was the call i think.  good game in most areas.  some concern about kickoff coverage as frostburg returned 3 near midfield, will have to shore up that part.  good game, on to iona, which should be a good test for the wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 05, 2008, 11:19:22 PM
  Bad news out of Salisbury Maryland for my SU Seagulls.....starting linebacker Leonardis reportdedly broke his leg against Newport and is out for the season. Add to that one of the noseguards tore a knee ligament and is out for at least several weeks. Chandler was already out for the year. And I also just heard that 5 defensive starters were removed from the team for disciplinary reasons unrelated to football today! I checked the roster and all the names I was looking for were indeed gone. I fear my beloved birds may be cooked.....I really feel bad for the seniors, as this was a good team that still had a shot at the playoffs even up until today. But you can't lose 8 total starters on defense and stay at the same level, they are just not deep enough to recover from this IMO.  I still love the team and support them now more than ever, but we shall see how they respond this week at SJF. I hope for the best...Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 06, 2008, 12:13:00 AM
Quote from: SU Backer on October 05, 2008, 11:19:22 PM
  Bad news out of Salisbury Maryland for my SU Seagulls.....starting linebacker Leonardis reportdedly broke his leg against Newport and is out for the season. Add to that one of the noseguards tore a knee ligament and is out for at least several weeks. Chandler was already out for the year. And I also just heard that 5 defensive starters were removed from the team for disciplinary reasons unrelated to football today! I checked the roster and all the names I was looking for were indeed gone. I fear my beloved birds may be cooked.....I really feel bad for the seniors, as this was a good team that still had a shot at the playoffs even up until today. But you can't lose 8 total starters on defense and stay at the same level, they are just not deep enough to recover from this IMO.  I still love the team and support them now more than ever, but we shall see how they respond this week at SJF. I hope for the best...Go Gulls!

Well that sucks!  Sorry to hear that.  It sure looks like some benchers are going to have to kick in and step their game up.  Good luck at SJF.  It will be a tough one to be sure.   :-\

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 06, 2008, 12:17:00 AM
SUBacker

 The injury bug seems to hit teams all at once. The disciplinary stuff seems to be happening more and more at every level. The Gulls should be able to score this week against SJF but they need some stops on D too
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 06, 2008, 03:27:27 PM
It sounds like Salisbury is falling apart. Maybe they will move Curley to the defensive side of the ball too. He is already playing QB and WR, why not add him to the wrong side of the ball?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 06, 2008, 04:52:44 PM
It pains me to post this story, but here it is

http://www.wboc.com/global/story.asp?s=9131140

Another black eye for SU sports given what happened with the lax team last spring.  This is tough to take after all the good Coach Wood has done with the team in the community, especially the schools.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 06, 2008, 07:05:28 PM
bigtoe, thanks for the link.  shame that young people cant make the right decision when so much more is at stake than macho pride.  unfortunately, that is the way of so much of today's society.

xsu, shame for him and the others as just a couple of weeks ago they were ranked in the top 10.  curley is an excellent player, may be able to help on the d side.

subacker, the loses on defense are hard to deal with, but i saw the game at delval and the d was not playing very well that day with all the players, less the nose guard.  there is a reason they were the starters and teamski is right. others will have to step up.  salisbury will have to attempt to outscore their opponents and you have plenty of weapons to use.  good luck the rest of the season and i will look you guys up when we travel down for the early november game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 06, 2008, 08:12:30 PM
   XSU......wrong side of the ball? LOL.....right side if you ask me! But Curley won't be lining up on defense, SU has some young kids that will need to get it done. Sometimes things like this can bring the guys left standing a "us against the world" mentality that makes them dig down and compete harder than they thought they could. I hope this is the case. Our pass defense was a bit lacking so maybe there are some guys that will surprise when they get in there.  I feel bad for Coach Wood and all the good guys past, present and future involved in the program that will have to hear about this crap these 5 (ex)players got themselves into. This is not what this program under Coach Wood is about- this program does a bunch of volunteer work in Salisbury's community and I am sure they will continue to do so in the future. Come on Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dlippiel on October 06, 2008, 08:36:51 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 06, 2008, 12:13:00 AM
Quote from: SU Backer on October 05, 2008, 11:19:22 PM
  Bad news out of Salisbury Maryland for my SU Seagulls.....starting linebacker Leonardis reportdedly broke his leg against Newport and is out for the season. Add to that one of the noseguards tore a knee ligament and is out for at least several weeks. Chandler was already out for the year. And I also just heard that 5 defensive starters were removed from the team for disciplinary reasons unrelated to football today! I checked the roster and all the names I was looking for were indeed gone. I fear my beloved birds may be cooked.....I really feel bad for the seniors, as this was a good team that still had a shot at the playoffs even up until today. But you can't lose 8 total starters on defense and stay at the same level, they are just not deep enough to recover from this IMO.  I still love the team and support them now more than ever, but we shall see how they respond this week at SJF. I hope for the best...Go Gulls!

Well that sucks!  Sorry to hear that.  It sure looks like some benchers are going to have to kick in and step their game up.  Good luck at SJF.  It will be a tough one to be sure.   :-\

-Ski

Well with SJF's poor loss to Hartwick last week I wouldn't count your Gulls out yet. Two things are possible with SJF :-they come out flat and disheartened on SAT and Salisbury can take advantage or SJF comes out very refocused and composed and take out last week on a depleted Gulls lineup. Either way this is a big game for both teams. A win for either will most likely give that team some momentum and rejuvination towards the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: superman57 on October 06, 2008, 08:50:51 PM
SJF notoriously has one bad loss a year, my feeling is that this loss came at a bad time for SU... Fisher in the past has had great success against option teams... in my memory only one team in the past has truly run wild on fisher and that was 07 Springfield who in the next game got rocked...  as for the arrests... it is a shame by the sounds of the article every single one of those players should be kicked off the team... but I'm only reading the article
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 06, 2008, 09:32:55 PM
SUBacker: All defensive players play on the wrong side of the ball. I know that Curley won't play on defense, which is good because then another would be converted to the dark side.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 08, 2008, 11:32:19 AM
My unprofessional expert picks for Week 6:
XSUGULL season record: 9-5-2*

I have to make my picks a little early this week because I'm going to be out of town until Sunday.

Salisbury at St. John Fisher
This is a difficult game for me to predict. My heart says one thing but my head says another. It will be tough for Salisbury to deal with the loss of five defensive starters but the Gulls do get a boost. It sounds like Jarrell Chandler will be able to play this weekend. With an inexperienced secondary it will be very vital for the Gulls to have a good pass rush to put a little pressure on the opposing quarterback. Offensively the Gulls need to get the ball into Ronnie Curley's hands. It might not happen this week but I think it will happen by the end of the season; Curley will get the hat-trick of running, passing and receiving a touchdown all in one game. Right now I feel like Kirk Herbstreit when he picks against Ohio State. I think the depleted defense will hurt Salisbury too much and I am picking against the birds this week. St. John Fisher 28, Salisbury 24.

Frostburg State University at Southern Virginia
I think Frostburg is better team than their 1-3 record shows. They put up a fight against Washington Jefferson in the first week of the season and almost came back to beat Widener in Week 3. I think the Bobcats will spoil Southern Va. Homecoming. Frostburg State 31, Southern Virginia 14.

Wesley at Iona
If you look at past games you might say that Iona should beat Wesley. After all, Iona beat Delaware Valley who beat the Wolverines. However, this is a different Wesley team than the one that lost two fumbles and struggled offensively in the second half against the Aggies. I think the Wolverines stay on track and make it three wins in-a-row. Wesley 35, Iona 21.

Apprentice School at Lake Erie
This is the first of three games against ACFC teams for Lake Erie. I think the Shipbuilders will get the ACFC off to a good start against the Storm. Apprentice School 28, Lake Erie 10.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: fisheralum91 on October 09, 2008, 03:03:31 PM
hey guys- im a regular on the e8 board and i wanted to read about the suspensions...
bad deal for both schools-
the what if factor is always going to be there.
safe travels to all heading to rochester,  and of course GO FISHER!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 10, 2008, 08:13:27 AM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on October 06, 2008, 04:52:44 PM
It pains me to post this story, but here it is

http://www.wboc.com/global/story.asp?s=9131140

Another black eye for SU sports given what happened with the lax team last spring.  This is tough to take after all the good Coach Wood has done with the team in the community, especially the schools.

Bigtoe:

Thanks for the link.  I passed it on to my daughter is is a Salisbury alum class of 2006).  The arrests are a black eye on the players involved, and to a lesser extent on Salisbury football.   Hopefully these young men learned a valuable lesson about responsibility for their actions.  I hope they are able to continue their education at Salisbury or some other institution of higher learning, and receive their degree's and become valuable contributors to society
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 10, 2008, 08:15:09 AM
Will the bad news regarded the expelled football players at Salisbury, it was good to hear that Jarrell Chandler is back!   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 10, 2008, 08:48:36 AM
Quote from: XSUGull on October 08, 2008, 11:32:19 AM

Wesley at Iona
If you look at past games you might say that Iona should beat Wesley. After all, Iona beat Delaware Valley who beat the Wolverines. However, this is a different Wesley team than the one that lost two fumbles and struggled offensively in the second half against the Aggies. I think the Wolverines stay on track and make it three wins in-a-row. Wesley 35, Iona 21.


This game is a real tough one to call.  Wesley is definately improving it's game in reducing turnovers and penalties.  So, I think that if they maintain their discipline, they can win the game.  Coach Drass has a lot of respect for Iona, and he mentioned on his show that he is taking the game extremely seriously.  Now that the are only two Pool-B bids this year, they have to take every game seriously, that's for sure.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 11, 2008, 07:06:44 AM
wesley at iona, i checked out the box scores for iona and i am not sure how they have won any games.  i know that the stats dont tell the whole story, but they give up yardage both running and passing.  it seems that they take advantage of the other teams mistakes.  if wesley holds onto the ball they should win this game.

i forget to give a shout out to the president of wesley college for making the drive out to frostburg last week to take in the game.  it was nice to see that he has that kind of interest in the sports programs.  he mentioned that they had the field hockey team over for breakfast, met some perspective students, and then headed out to frostburg.  kudos to him.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 11, 2008, 02:22:06 PM
Well, at half-time Wesley leads Iona 7-6.  So far so good on avoiding major mistakes by Wesley.  They opened the game up with a 65 yard drive for 7 points.  On the following Iona possesion, Chet Turner interecepted a pass at the 16 yard line.  Two subsequent drives from deep on it's end of the field, and Wesley couldn't produce any good plays, allowing Iona to drive from a short field to a touchdown with a missed extra point.  Wesley then had a great run of plays from the 40 yard line but was stopped at the 8 with a missed field goal.

I have a feeling that Wesley is going to break some big plays in the second half.  They kept Iona's defense on the field for a fair amount of time in the first.   

Shane McSweeny is doing a stellar job at QB, IMHO.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 11, 2008, 03:12:42 PM
Salisbury and SJF in triple OT 52 to 52.  Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 11, 2008, 03:32:24 PM
Gulls win in the 4th overtime!!!!!  A huge win under very difficult circumstances.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2008, 03:36:07 PM
wOW salisbury winsssssss what a game .. no d for either team but what a game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 11, 2008, 04:03:04 PM
Booyeah!  Wesley has defeated its first ever Division I-AA (FCS) team by a victory over Iona by the score of 23-12.  A second half lead-off 31 yard kick-off return by Beavers started things up.  A McSweeney to Scanlon pass for a TD put them up 14-6.   

Iona followed up with a touchdown themselves and then a VERY rare thing happened.  Iona fumbled their 2 point conversion and Eddie Dinisi ran the ball back for 85 yards to give Wesley a 16-12 lead. 

Wesley committed what seems like their second half trademark and fumbled the ball twice.  Also, Blugis uncharactoristically missed 2 VERY short field goals in the game, so the score could of been a lot higher.  Hats off to Aaron Jackson with 100 yards rushing.  McSweeny had over 85 yards rushing as well.  He rocks.   8)

The only issue with the defense was that Iona played a no-huddle offense.  Wesley was sometimes slow to get set up and this created some opportunities for some open recievers.  That said, the defense did really good work out there and did a great job stopping the run.

So, Wesley kicked some arse on the field.  Well done Wolverines!!

-Ski

ps... Congratulations to Salisbury on a monster win over SJF!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 11, 2008, 04:08:47 PM
  Oh My Lord!!!! Gulls show unbelievable grit and get it done in 4th overtime @ SJF! What a game.....couldn't be prouder! Go Gulls!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 11, 2008, 08:10:46 PM
incredible win for salisbury after a rough week

wesley gets a good one over Division I-AA (oops) FCS Iona
Frostburg grabs a road win at SVU

Darnit we couldnt make it 4-for-4.   Wild shootout with Lake Erie 47-38
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2008, 09:28:58 PM
nnasid

Are you still coming to Dover next week? We have about 12 people coming for the Induction Friday. Most are staying over for the game so we'll probably  try and set up a tailgate down there. I'll let you know what to look for ;D

Sounds like you had an exciting game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 11, 2008, 10:25:31 PM
wesley picked up a good win today.  they were very sluggish on offense in the first half.  not sure why they were trying to run outside when they had a huge size advantage on the line.  iona's d was very quick to the ball and put pressure on mcsweeney forcing him to run more than was planned leading to his rush total.  in the second half they ran between the tackles and had success.

teamski, you are correct about the no huddle causing wesley trouble making changes.  there is another issue that coach drass will have to fix on defense, the lack of a pass rush.  iona's qb was able to stand around waiting for receivers to get open, fortunately the dbacks did a nice job with coverage.  it did not hurt that iona did not have anyone who could run by the dbacks.

this result leads to a question, was iona's win over delval a fluke or was delvals win over wesley a fluke.  after seeing today's game, i would have to say that both results were flukes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 11, 2008, 10:33:18 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 11, 2008, 10:25:31 PM

this result leads to a question, was iona's win over delval a fluke or was delvals win over wesley a fluke.  after seeing today's game, i would have to say that both results were flukes.

The question is, did Del Valley beat Wesley, or did Wesley beat Wesley?....I think it was a case of Wesley beating Wesley with 16 penalties and an ample amount of turnovers.  In today's game, Wesley once again reduced penalties to 7 for the game and it showed.  Sure, 2 turnovers didn't help, but their game is tightening up overall.....


-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2008, 10:37:36 PM
I kept losing the online feed today of the radio and I missed the first quarter because I was in an MRI 40 minutes  ;D  I am NOT a fan of close spaces and being straped down does NOT help :-X.  Then the lady says we have to do some again >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 11, 2008, 10:45:33 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2008, 10:37:36 PM
I kept losing the online feed today of the radio or maybe it was my head still thumping fronm 40 minutes in an mri machine  ;D  I am NOT a fan of close spaces and being straped down does NOT help :-X. 
We had problems with our phone line today so we kept dropping out, it was frustrating for us too. Hard fought win fro the Wolverines today against a scrappy Iona squad.

Congrats to Salisbury on a great win today after a tough week. Looks like Eric game could be tougher than either the Gulls or Wolverines though. What's the report on them sid?

Good to see the Bobcats back in the win column too!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2008, 10:53:59 PM
conrad

I was ready to throw the laptop >:( 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 11, 2008, 10:56:30 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2008, 10:53:59 PM
conrad

I was ready to throw the laptop >:( 
So was Len. :P
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 12, 2008, 06:34:40 AM
Quote from: Conrad on October 11, 2008, 10:56:30 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2008, 10:53:59 PM
conrad

I was ready to throw the laptop >:( 
So was Len. :P

It just made the game all the more exciting.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 12, 2008, 07:39:29 AM
pawesley, i hope all went well, you could not get me to do it once let alone twice.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 12, 2008, 09:35:27 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2008, 09:28:58 PM
nnasid

Are you still coming to Dover next week? We have about 12 people coming for the Induction Friday. Most are staying over for the game so we'll probably  try and set up a tailgate down there. I'll let you know what to look for ;D

Sounds like you had an exciting game?

It was a wacky game.  We returned a kickoff 83 yards for a td (first for us since either '98 or '96) and they have a tailback who got untracked in the second half. Got up 32-13 and they went to work. We could get untracked throwing the ball, but running was a heck of a chore. 

For those tailgaters planning on a trip to Painesville, Ohio (Wesleydad, pa?) its a decent sized parking lot (not like ours now -- haha) so you should have room to tailgate before your game on Nov 8.

Far as this week PA....As of this moment I am coming, but that may change.  There's a chance I will go with the golf team to a tournament this weekend.  Will let you know later in the week.
We're staying in Wilmington with it sounds like everyone but UDel having homecoming up rt. 13 (salisbury, wesley, del state)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 13, 2008, 01:04:43 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 12, 2008, 09:35:27 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2008, 09:28:58 PM
nnasid

Are you still coming to Dover next week? We have about 12 people coming for the Induction Friday. Most are staying over for the game so we'll probably  try and set up a tailgate down there. I'll let you know what to look for ;D

Sounds like you had an exciting game?

It was a wacky game.  We returned a kickoff 83 yards for a td (first for us since either '98 or '96) and they have a tailback who got untracked in the second half. Got up 32-13 and they went to work. We could get untracked throwing the ball, but running was a heck of a chore. 

For those tailgaters planning on a trip to Painesville, Ohio (Wesleydad, pa?) its a decent sized parking lot (not like ours now -- haha) so you should have room to tailgate before your game on Nov 8.

Far as this week PA....As of this moment I am coming, but that may change.  There's a chance I will go with the golf team to a tournament this weekend.  Will let you know later in the week.
We're staying in Wilmington with it sounds like everyone but UDel having homecoming up rt. 13 (salisbury, wesley, del state)


nnasid:

Guess what?  UDel is also having homecoming this weekend.  My wife and I are going to Lincoln's (20 miles from UD) Homecoming this weekend (the first in 48 years with a football game).  My daughters (UDel & Salisbury) are also going to their respective alma maters for Homecoming.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 13, 2008, 01:06:25 PM
Congratulations to the Sea Gulls on a much needed win considering the circumstances!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 13, 2008, 04:04:13 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on October 13, 2008, 01:04:43 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 12, 2008, 09:35:27 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2008, 09:28:58 PM
nnasid

Are you still coming to Dover next week? We have about 12 people coming for the Induction Friday. Most are staying over for the game so we'll probably  try and set up a tailgate down there. I'll let you know what to look for ;D

Sounds like you had an exciting game?

It was a wacky game.  We returned a kickoff 83 yards for a td (first for us since either '98 or '96) and they have a tailback who got untracked in the second half. Got up 32-13 and they went to work. We could get untracked throwing the ball, but running was a heck of a chore. 

For those tailgaters planning on a trip to Painesville, Ohio (Wesleydad, pa?) its a decent sized parking lot (not like ours now -- haha) so you should have room to tailgate before your game on Nov 8.

Far as this week PA....As of this moment I am coming, but that may change.  There's a chance I will go with the golf team to a tournament this weekend.  Will let you know later in the week.
We're staying in Wilmington with it sounds like everyone but UDel having homecoming up rt. 13 (salisbury, wesley, del state)


nnasid:

Guess what?  UDel is also having homecoming this weekend.  My wife and I are going to Lincoln's (20 miles from UD) Homecoming this weekend (the first in 48 years with a football game).  My daughters (UDel & Salisbury) are also going to their respective alma maters for Homecoming.

How many homecomings can you fit in one region
(from my way to the north)
Salisbury
Wesley
Del State
Delaware
Wilmington College (granted no football team, but still)
Lincoln

its a wonder we arent staying in newport news and coming up on Saturday ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 13, 2008, 05:30:47 PM
just listened to the podcast.  glad to hear that pool b is going to get 3 bids, so the winner of the wesley/salisbury game should get in and the other should have a shot at a pool c. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 14, 2008, 06:10:46 AM
Sorry this is old news but I just saw this on the front page of D3Football.com "What we are reading" section:

Check out the mug shot of Reginald Gooch II.  I am sure his parents are proud:

Salibury U Players Arrested (http://www.wboc.com/global/story.asp?s=9131140)

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwboc.images.worldnow.com%2Fimages%2F9131140_BG4.JPG&hash=f39c1e8bff521eb991d0e1f5a99441d0934693b6)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 14, 2008, 09:58:44 AM
Quote from: kirasdad on October 14, 2008, 06:10:46 AM
Sorry this is old news but I just saw this on the front page of D3Football.com "What we are reading" section:

Check out the mug shot of Reginald Gooch II.  I am sure his parents are proud:

Salibury U Players Arrested (http://www.wboc.com/global/story.asp?s=9131140)

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwboc.images.worldnow.com%2Fimages%2F9131140_BG4.JPG&hash=f39c1e8bff521eb991d0e1f5a99441d0934693b6)

I think that comes from his college ID, not mug shot. I least I hope.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 14, 2008, 10:04:33 AM
Quote from: nnasid on October 13, 2008, 04:04:13 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on October 13, 2008, 01:04:43 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 12, 2008, 09:35:27 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2008, 09:28:58 PM
nnasid

Are you still coming to Dover next week? We have about 12 people coming for the Induction Friday. Most are staying over for the game so we'll probably  try and set up a tailgate down there. I'll let you know what to look for ;D

Sounds like you had an exciting game?

It was a wacky game.  We returned a kickoff 83 yards for a td (first for us since either '98 or '96) and they have a tailback who got untracked in the second half. Got up 32-13 and they went to work. We could get untracked throwing the ball, but running was a heck of a chore. 

For those tailgaters planning on a trip to Painesville, Ohio (Wesleydad, pa?) its a decent sized parking lot (not like ours now -- haha) so you should have room to tailgate before your game on Nov 8.

Far as this week PA....As of this moment I am coming, but that may change.  There's a chance I will go with the golf team to a tournament this weekend.  Will let you know later in the week.
We're staying in Wilmington with it sounds like everyone but UDel having homecoming up rt. 13 (salisbury, wesley, del state)


nnasid:

Guess what?  UDel is also having homecoming this weekend.  My wife and I are going to Lincoln's (20 miles from UD) Homecoming this weekend (the first in 48 years with a football game).  My daughters (UDel & Salisbury) are also going to their respective alma maters for Homecoming.

How many homecomings can you fit in one region
(from my way to the north)
Salisbury
Wesley
Del State
Delaware
Wilmington College (granted no football team, but still)
Lincoln

its a wonder we arent staying in newport news and coming up on Saturday ;D

nnasid:

I hear ya.  The hotels in the region have got to be real happy with that number of homecomings, and the easing of gas prices.

The early forecast calls for partly cloudy and in the 60's so it should be great football and tailgating weather !
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 14, 2008, 12:58:50 PM
Quote from: Conrad on October 14, 2008, 09:58:44 AM
Quote from: kirasdad on October 14, 2008, 06:10:46 AM
Sorry this is old news but I just saw this on the front page of D3Football.com "What we are reading" section:

Check out the mug shot of Reginald Gooch II.  I am sure his parents are proud:

Salibury U Players Arrested (http://www.wboc.com/global/story.asp?s=9131140)

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwboc.images.worldnow.com%2Fimages%2F9131140_BG4.JPG&hash=f39c1e8bff521eb991d0e1f5a99441d0934693b6)

I think that comes from his college ID, not mug shot. I least I hope.

I don't know, click the link and look at the other pictures.  One dude is in prison stripes already:

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwboc.images.worldnow.com%2Fimages%2F9131140_BG1.jpg&hash=923d087ce495a776f530ce72530fcbec78026f90)
Title: Old News
Post by: Gull_backer_5 on October 14, 2008, 01:10:44 PM
On the old News

It is a disgrace how a knuckle head like this can shame the current S.U. team, coaching staff, and entire University.  This is an insult to all previous Salisbury football alumni and the mind-set they believed was instilled in the football program.  It is unfortunate that half the defense was lost in this incident.  The current players have the selfish and stupid decisions of those young men to thank for this loss.  It doesn't look like Gooch learned anything from this fight in the mug shot. 
One of the things that you have to learn as a D-3 football player is that you're not entitled to anything, especially at Salisbury.  A team has to earn respect and maintain it.  There are no scholarships.  They only thing that makes you special are your teammates.  That is what is great about D-3.  This is a bunch of guys who love football so much that they devote the time of a scholarship player just to be able to play and when you have that balance thrown off by things like this; it hurts. 
It takes a lot more positive to erase the negatives.

Go Gulls   

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 14, 2008, 02:30:19 PM
I don't think those five players are worth mentioning when you talk about Salisbury football. They hurt the program and themselves. I will say that it was great to see the Gulls succeed without them. That was a big win last Saturday to overcome all that adversity and come away with a 4OT thriller.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 14, 2008, 03:05:02 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on October 14, 2008, 02:30:19 PM
I don't think those five players are worth mentioning when you talk about Salisbury football. They hurt the program and themselves. I will say that it was great to see the Gulls succeed without them. That was a big win last Saturday to overcome all that adversity and come away with a 4OT thriller.

I agree.  And, SU did great without them, too!   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 15, 2008, 09:11:58 AM
To the Sea Gull football players and fans, we must move on from the unfortunate incident that occured.  The implicated players were kicked off the team and suspended from the university.

Some folk need to be very careful coming onto a board with a "haughty attitude".  Remember, these are young people are away from home, and their judgements are not always clear.  What happened at Salisbury can and has happened at other schools.  If it happened in Maryland, it can also happen in Ohio.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 15, 2008, 06:38:39 PM
njlincolnlion, i agree with you.  it is easy to take shots at young people who mess up.  they will have to do their pennance, we do not need to pile on with holier than thou attitudes.  having a young man in college, all you can do is hope that he will make the right decision when faced with a bad situation.  this is not an indictment of the program at salisbury, from what i have heard their coach runs a tight ship.  this is also not an indictment of how they were raised, some of the best parents have some really screwed up kids.  all this is is a poor decision made by some young people who happened to attend and play football at salisbury.  we read stories like this time and time again during the year, the old dont throw stones in glass houses idea.  i hope that the young men can get their act together and complete their education and go on to being positive, productive citizens.  as far as the football team, they seem to have stepped up to the challenge with the win at st john fisher.  as always i look forward to the game with the gulls in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on October 15, 2008, 07:26:30 PM
Regional rankings are out for ECAC;
Click here: http://www.ecacsports.com/landing/index (http://www.ecacsports.com/landing/index)
Title: Re: Old News
Post by: salisburye on October 15, 2008, 07:37:09 PM
Quote from: Gull_backer_5 on October 14, 2008, 01:10:44 PM
On the old News

It is a disgrace how a knuckle head like this can shame the current S.U. team, coaching staff, and entire University.  This is an insult to all previous Salisbury football alumni and the mind-set they believed was instilled in the football program.  It is unfortunate that half the defense was lost in this incident.  The current players have the selfish and stupid decisions of those young men to thank for this loss.  It doesn't look like Gooch learned anything from this fight in the mug shot. 
One of the things that you have to learn as a D-3 football player is that you're not entitled to anything, especially at Salisbury.  A team has to earn respect and maintain it.  There are no scholarships.  They only thing that makes you special are your teammates.  That is what is great about D-3.  This is a bunch of guys who love football so much that they devote the time of a scholarship player just to be able to play and when you have that balance thrown off by things like this; it hurts. 
It takes a lot more positive to erase the negatives.

Go Gulls   



As a former player from Salisbury's team who still attends the university, please don't comment on a situation you know nothing about. It's not always your actions that get you in trouble, sometimes it's just the color of your skin. Let's just say most of those guys were innocent and had nothing to do with the situation and WILL be back on the field and roster.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 15, 2008, 11:50:09 PM
      Gulls need to build from last week's performance and roll on this weekend......I really feel like SU will get it done for homecoming in a big way. The program proved it is bigger than any player or even group of players by their performance @ SJF. The guys playing aren't thinking about the people that are not there, they are focused on one game at a time and playing to the best of their ability....kudos to the freshman linebacker Leon that stepped in a did a good job. Ironman awards to Chandler and Cynewski that both wound up playing just about every snap. I'm glad I was wrong about Chandler's injury ending his senior season....way to go fellas
Go Gulls!! good luck to all the ACFC teams...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 16, 2008, 12:50:29 PM
My unprofessional expert picks for Week 7:
XSUGULL season record: 11-7-2*

A 2-2 weekend is not what I was looking for so its time to get back on track. I'm looking at going 3-0 with my picks this week. I'll start things off in the land of the bird.

Lake Erie at Salisbury
Lake Erie put up some points last week against the Apprentice School (47) with a very balance attack. They threw for over 250 yards and eclipsed the 200 yard mark on the ground as well. With Jarrell Chandler back and at full strength for the Gulls you have think that Lake Erie might not be able to run as effectively against SU as they did last week against the Shipbuilders. The air attack for Lake Erie might not be able to have as much success because of the Salisbury pass rush. Offensively for the Gulls I think this is the week that QB/WR Ronnie Curley gets the hat trick. He will rush, pass and catch a TD. SU has scored over 60 points in each of its last three homecoming affairs (2005: 66-20 vs. Buffalo State; 2006: 65-7 vs. Morrisville State; 2007, 79-20 vs. Becker). I don't know if Salisbury can match the 79 points from last year but I think they will at least hang half a hundred on the scoreboard. Salisbury 63, Lake Erie 21.

Frostburg State at Ithaca
Ithaca is going to be a tough test for the Bobcats. FSU is coming off a 21-13 win over Southern Virginia but the Bombers out of Ithaca are going to be more on the level of the Washington & Jefferson team FSU faced in Week 1. Frostburg will hold its own for a while but Ithaca will cruise to its fifth win of the season. Ithaca 41, Frostburg State 17.

Apprentice School at Wesley
Wesley has clearly rebounded from its Week 1/2 surprise against Delaware Valley. They have run off four straight wins and I think the Apprentice School will have to play perfect football with the Wolverines making a lot of mistakes to steal this one in Dover. Wesley will give the homecoming crowd something to cheer about early and often. Wesley 55, Apprentice School 13.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 17, 2008, 10:45:06 AM
nnasid

  We are leaving for Dover early this afternoon  for the  Hall of Fame ceremony  tonight ;D, look us up tomorrow in the tailgate lot.

conrad

What's the forecast for Dover tomorrow? Besides windy?
 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 17, 2008, 11:10:24 AM
PA
Enjoy the hall of fame weekend.  I will not be in attendance.  I am going to take care of things from the office (and knock out the remainder of the hoop programs while listening to the game).
Congrats on the HOF
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 17, 2008, 11:30:12 AM
nnasid

Sorry to here that. One day our paths will cross.

We are all proud of our sons accomplishments in baseball and football at Wesley.
And we are honored that he is being inducted.

 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 17, 2008, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 17, 2008, 10:45:06 AM
nnasid

  We are leaving for Dover early this afternoon  for the  Hall of Fame ceremony  tonight ;D, look us up tomorrow in the tailgate lot.

conrad

What's the forecast for Dover tomorrow? Besides windy?
 

Breezy and cool.
Title: Re: Old News
Post by: SaintsFAN on October 17, 2008, 01:11:17 PM
Quote from: salisburye on October 15, 2008, 07:37:09 PM

As a former player from Salisbury's team who still attends the university, please don't comment on a situation you know nothing about. It's not always your actions that get you in trouble, sometimes it's just the color of your skin. Let's just say most of those guys were innocent and had nothing to do with the situation and WILL be back on the field and roster.

Sorry for those of you that take offense to another posting about this -- I'm sorry, I just can't let this comment go.  I read the article and saw some of the pictures of the mugshots of the people involved.  Lets just say this doesn't appear to be a "color of your skin" issue... and any non-biased observer can see that by viewing the photos of each person that was arrested. 

Another thing... most teams would suspend or kick off the team, players who are even involved in situations where a police department calls for assistance from 6 other agencies. 

I commend Sherman Wood for taking action right away.   Hopefully the players involved are accepting the appropriate level of responsibility unlike the poster I've responded to.  FYI, its nearly impossible to get out of disorderly conduct charges that result from a fight in a parking of a bar. 

Good luck to the rest of the year, Salisbury fans.  Nice win last weekend. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Olinemom on October 17, 2008, 03:27:09 PM
Congrats to Shane  :) from Wesley for being National QB of the Week.  I remember meeting him and his parents at the Stagg Bowl last year and am happy to see him playing so well with his team.  They have always scared me to death.  Olinemom.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 17, 2008, 11:12:33 PM
I'm thrilled that I will be able to make the Wesley game tommorow.  I took a day of leave (I'm USAF) to go.  You can't miss me as I am the geek in the Wesley #18 jersey with my wife tugging on my jersey to get me to sit down, heheheee.  Do drop by and say hello!   :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 18, 2008, 05:02:14 PM
Just got back from the Wesley- NNA game.  Wesley won 48-0 in a spirited game that resulted in the ejection of Jon Lanouette and the guy he was trading shoves with.  There were a couple incidents including a punch to the helmet of a Wesley player that wasn't called, causing coach Drass to stop the game to talk it over with the officials.

Wesley did well on both sides of the ball.  However, three turnovers (2 fumbles and an interception) in the first half blunted the Wolverine offense and kept the score 20-0 at the half.  More ball drills....

There was an NNA player that had to be taken away via ambulance in the 4th quarter.  I hope he is ok.

Congratulations to Jon Lanouette for breaking the Wesley record for all-time receptions.  Well done!

So it is on to Weber Int. in warmer climates.  Once again, if Wesley can keep the ball off the ground, it will be one tough nut to crack.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 18, 2008, 09:11:38 PM
  I have been going to Wesley games for a long time and have never seen such fierce hitting throughout a game(most of it legal) by both teams. I don't think the Lanouette  incident would have warranted ejections if not for the things that preceded those hits. I think NNA wanted to come out and bang with Wesley and then lightning struck and they came unhinged a little bit. Both teams got a little chippy away from the ball and things escalated. The injury to the Builders player
changed things.

Ski

   Where were you seated today? I believe that was you seated next to us near the press box  ;D

Conrad

Sorry we didn't stick around after the game. The wife wasn't feeling well and stayed in the car all of the second half which also wasn't a very good experience because of the rather rambunctious youth surrounding the car.  She walked entirely to much. You would have enjoyed the unrehearsed speech the kid gave last nite :D

NNAsid

Let us know when you here anything about the injured player.


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 18, 2008, 09:15:24 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 18, 2008, 09:11:38 PM
 
Ski

   Where were you seated today? I believe that was you seated next to us near the press box  ;D


I was wearing a black fleece and sat next to Blugis' parents about 4 rows down from the press box right on the 50.  It was WAY too cold to be wearing the jersey as an outer garment today....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 18, 2008, 09:28:48 PM


ski

Then that wasn't you!! We were seated at the press box door side two from the top.
Maybe our paths will cross at the Gallaudet game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 18, 2008, 09:48:16 PM
Maybe!  We'll see if I can take leave for it.... :'(

For those of you who didn't make the game, watch the highlights to see Beavers' punt return TD dive.  It's worth the watch!!

http://www.wdel.com/news.php?n=S&s=2

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 19, 2008, 09:07:45 AM
Article on the Gulls' homecoming victory.

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081019/SPORTS/810190352&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

Notice the blurb at the end of the article about two of the arrested players.
Title: Re: Old News
Post by: salisburye on October 20, 2008, 12:09:34 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 17, 2008, 01:11:17 PM
Quote from: salisburye on October 15, 2008, 07:37:09 PM

As a former player from Salisbury's team who still attends the university, please don't comment on a situation you know nothing about. It's not always your actions that get you in trouble, sometimes it's just the color of your skin. Let's just say most of those guys were innocent and had nothing to do with the situation and WILL be back on the field and roster.

Sorry for those of you that take offense to another posting about this -- I'm sorry, I just can't let this comment go.  I read the article and saw some of the pictures of the mugshots of the people involved.  Lets just say this doesn't appear to be a "color of your skin" issue... and any non-biased observer can see that by viewing the photos of each person that was arrested. 

Another thing... most teams would suspend or kick off the team, players who are even involved in situations where a police department calls for assistance from 6 other agencies. 

I commend Sherman Wood for taking action right away.   Hopefully the players involved are accepting the appropriate level of responsibility unlike the poster I've responded to.  FYI, its nearly impossible to get out of disorderly conduct charges that result from a fight in a parking of a bar. 

Good luck to the rest of the year, Salisbury fans.  Nice win last weekend. 

Again...like I said before...please don't comment on something you know absolutely nothing about...and don't believe the media. I mean the first reports on the local Salisbury news was that a brawl broke out between Salisbury and Newport News players in the bar  ::), so you know to take everything they say with a grain of salt. Anyways The players that didn't do anything have been back at school and will be back on the field shortly.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 20, 2008, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 18, 2008, 09:11:38 PM


NNAsid

Let us know when you here anything about the injured player.



He was ok and rode home with the trainer and our former coach
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 20, 2008, 03:36:07 PM
nnasid,

Oh yay!!  :D  That is REALLY good news!  Thanks for the update.  It is hard to see something like that happen.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 20, 2008, 04:39:49 PM
I spoke with him today and he told me it was from a hit by his own teammate  ::)
Couple coaches said they were rattled to look his way, but he's doing fine.


Now we need Wesley to put the hammer on Webber this week  ;D (Webber at Apprentice November 1)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 20, 2008, 04:49:44 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 20, 2008, 04:39:49 PM
I spoke with him today and he told me it was from a hit by his own teammate  ::)
Couple coaches said they were rattled to look his way, but he's doing fine.


Now we need Wesley to put the hammer on Webber this week  ;D (Webber at Apprentice November 1)

Yeah, there were 3 defenders that hit each other when attempting to tackle a Wesley Tight end.  They ended up taking eachother out and he escaped.   

I'm sure Wesley will do what it can for you and Webber International.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 20, 2008, 10:16:35 PM
nnasid, glad to hear that the young man injured on saturday is doing well.  it is never good to see the ambulance come on the field.  you have a scrappy team and they gave wesley all they could handle in the first half.  good luck the rest of the year.
Title: can't help looking ahead
Post by: GOLDPRIDE on October 21, 2008, 10:22:41 AM
Looks like Halloween weekend will provide another great game between the Gulls and Wesley.  Salisbury looked good over the weekend, even if the competition was weak.  Wesley will certainly be favored in this game.  Beavers will be a headache.  But if my Gulls can win the Special Teams game; we'll have a thriller.  We have to take care of Becker first, and I hope the team isn't looking ahead even though I am. 

Go Gulls
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 21, 2008, 11:30:35 AM
I agree with you GOLDPRIDE; Halloween weekend should be another great game between Salisbury and Wesley. If the last two years are any indications of how this year's game will be it should be a classic.

Both SU and Wesley have strong teams this year and both lost a game they probably should have won. However, if the birds and wolves don't take care of business this weekend the game might not carry as much importance. SU should roll over Becker and Wesley should dominate Webber International.

The teams might not be able to look ahead to November 1, but the fans certainly can.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 21, 2008, 03:59:51 PM
I know I will be requesting another day of leave from work to go see the game.  Oh yeah I will!  ;)

-Ski
Title: Odds
Post by: GOLDPRIDE on October 21, 2008, 07:45:10 PM
We'll lets open up the Betting.  Any Spreads yet?  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 21, 2008, 09:02:22 PM
I'll start the over/under at 45 points.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 21, 2008, 09:07:26 PM
I'll wait til next week..... ;D  But remember one thing, Wesley defends Salisbury's O better than anyone  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 22, 2008, 07:37:03 PM
hey all, leaving for fla thursday afternoon.  landing in orlando, almost chose tampa bay when we booked over month ago, would have been fun to be in the world series town.  oh well, if all goes well and i know that is a big if when flying, we should be at the hotel bar by the middle of the game.  plan on a trip to epcot on friday to enjoy the beer, wine, and food festival that is going on there.  this is weird for me since i am a teacher and never take off from school, some other teachers are in shock.  gotta do what you gotta do when your boy is a senior.  found out that webber plays at a high school field so that could be interesting, but it is florida so the field will likely be nice, not sure if it is turf or not.  webber seems to be struggling according to the website and i expect wesley to take care of business.  i doubt they will get caught looking ahead to the salisbury game.  wife is taking the lap top so i will post with some info if i get any.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 22, 2008, 08:04:06 PM
wesleydad

Enjoy the trip. Certainly not a good weekend to be here! Rain and cold.
As per earlier post, we didn't stick around after the game last week. Wife wasn't feeling well.  I plan on making the trip for Gallaudet game. Depending on tomorrows Dr visit.  Tweeked it again :-X



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on October 22, 2008, 09:35:42 PM

Wesleydad,

Enjoy the food and winefest at Epcot.Mrs. Muledaddy and her cousin were there a couple weeks ago and saind it was a good time.......wiine tastings, etc. Have a good game and good luck next week in the big one. Each game is more important as the san runs through the hourglass for us parents of seniors.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 22, 2008, 10:58:05 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 22, 2008, 07:37:03 PM
hey all, leaving for fla thursday afternoon.  landing in orlando, almost chose tampa bay when we booked over month ago, would have been fun to be in the world series town.  oh well, if all goes well and i know that is a big if when flying, we should be at the hotel bar by the middle of the game.  plan on a trip to epcot on friday to enjoy the beer, wine, and food festival that is going on there.  this is weird for me since i am a teacher and never take off from school, some other teachers are in shock.  gotta do what you gotta do when your boy is a senior.  found out that webber plays at a high school field so that could be interesting, but it is florida so the field will likely be nice, not sure if it is turf or not.  webber seems to be struggling according to the website and i expect wesley to take care of business.  i doubt they will get caught looking ahead to the salisbury game.  wife is taking the lap top so i will post with some info if i get any.

wesleydad.  We are hoping they take care of business real well this week as we host Webber Nov. 1.
rip 'em good
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 23, 2008, 11:45:03 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 22, 2008, 07:37:03 PM
hey all, leaving for fla thursday afternoon.  landing in orlando, almost chose tampa bay when we booked over month ago, would have been fun to be in the world series town.  oh well, if all goes well and i know that is a big if when flying, we should be at the hotel bar by the middle of the game.  plan on a trip to epcot on friday to enjoy the beer, wine, and food festival that is going on there.  this is weird for me since i am a teacher and never take off from school, some other teachers are in shock.  gotta do what you gotta do when your boy is a senior.  found out that webber plays at a high school field so that could be interesting, but it is florida so the field will likely be nice, not sure if it is turf or not.  webber seems to be struggling according to the website and i expect wesley to take care of business.  i doubt they will get caught looking ahead to the salisbury game.  wife is taking the lap top so i will post with some info if i get any.


EMMM.... Epcot England and the Boddington's and Guinness at the English Pub... Can I go?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 23, 2008, 11:57:17 AM
wesleydad,


Have a safe trip and enjoy yourselves down there!  We'll see you at Salisbury...

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 23, 2008, 12:00:49 PM
conrad, if you are not going to be there, then i will have to have one for you.  since i will be having some for several people, does that mean they get the hangover? ;D

looking forward to the trip, plane leaves in 3 hours, time to get going.

teamski, et al, thanks for the well wishes and i will see you at salisbury.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 23, 2008, 12:31:27 PM
We're not flying in until early afternoon on Friday. Probably won't have time to visit the Magic Kingdom. (Plus my three-year old would not be happy if I went without her.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2008, 07:54:45 PM
Quote from: Conrad on October 23, 2008, 12:31:27 PM
We're not flying in until early afternoon on Friday. Probably won't have time to visit the Magic Kingdom. (Plus my three-year old would not be happy if I went without her.)

Well then don't wear the Mickey Mouse ears home !!! ;D


  Bad news on the MRI :'(  Rotator Cuff is not attached to the bone soooooooooooo.  At least I got a reprieve til after Thanksgiving.  Guess I won't be throwing any flaming 45 mph batting practice next year >:(


  Conrad

How bout them Cowboys ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 23, 2008, 09:10:42 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2008, 07:54:45 PM
Quote from: Conrad on October 23, 2008, 12:31:27 PM
We're not flying in until early afternoon on Friday. Probably won't have time to visit the Magic Kingdom. (Plus my three-year old would not be happy if I went without her.)

Well then don't wear the Mickey Mouse ears home !!! ;D


  Bad news on the MRI :'(  Rotator Cuff is not attached to the bone soooooooooooo.  At least I got a reprieve til after Thanksgiving.  Guess I won't be throwing any flaming 45 mph batting practice next year >:(


  Conrad

How bout them Cowboys ;D
Start working on your left.

Which Cowboys, Hardin-Simmons or Dallas?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2008, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: Conrad on October 23, 2008, 09:10:42 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2008, 07:54:45 PM
Quote from: Conrad on October 23, 2008, 12:31:27 PM
We're not flying in until early afternoon on Friday. Probably won't have time to visit the Magic Kingdom. (Plus my three-year old would not be happy if I went without her.)

Well then don't wear the Mickey Mouse ears home !!! ;D


  Bad news on the MRI :'(  Rotator Cuff is not attached to the bone soooooooooooo.  At least I got a reprieve til after Thanksgiving.  Guess I won't be throwing any flaming 45 mph batting practice next year >:(


  Conrad

How bout them Cowboys ;D
Start working on your left.

Which Cowboys, Hardin-Simmons or Dallas?


I have no reason to Hate Hardin-Simmons.  I am an E.A.G.L.E.S. fan  :D
I wish all I had was a broken pinkie   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 25, 2008, 02:14:20 PM
Well, well.  Wesley leads Webber International 28-0 at halftime.  312 yards of offense on 4 straight scoring posessions.  Shane McSweeney is burning it up with his tight-end Sean McAndrews as his primary reciever.  Jon Lanouette had to sit out the first half due to last week's squabble.  Good stuff.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 25, 2008, 02:43:34 PM
.......And Larry Beavers runs another opening kickoff return for a TD, his 8th!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 25, 2008, 02:44:08 PM
Beavers returns two consecutive kickoffs for tds
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 25, 2008, 02:45:58 PM
ski

wesley had over 300 yrd in O in the first half. beavers may have over 300 yrds himself 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 25, 2008, 03:02:58 PM
  Well with SU's rout of Becker today and Wesley whipping Webber it is setting up for the showdown we all thought it would be next week.....get there early because getting into the "stadium" we have in Salisbury can be a slow process....congrats to Shelby Fisher who has flown under the radar all year for SU, but continues to put up big numbers at running back.....hey where is #4 the backup qb for Salisbury? is he hurt ? quit? he was a good ballplayer and I believe he was a senior too...
GO GULLS!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: GOLDPRIDE on October 25, 2008, 03:09:56 PM
Here we ARE Salisbury- Wesley... Both teams routed the previous comp.  This is still halftime so unless the redskins show up in the second half its fair to say well half a top 15 in conf. match up.  

Gulls coming out with a chip on fire!!

Go Gulls

Salisbury: 45
Wesley:27 :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 25, 2008, 03:36:42 PM
  Whoa...easy Goldpride.......I love your optimism, but hanging 45 on Wesley probably ain't happening.....this game is played way too hard by both sides ....I do think that this is SU's best chance over the last several years, although last year's game was darn close.....I think it was a one score game, this will probably be a tight one too. I just want that "W".....by 1 point will do just fine!!!!GO GULLS!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 25, 2008, 03:58:11 PM
Wesley beats Webber Intl 42-13.  Real slow second half with back-ups.

It will be one hell of a good game next week.  I have to agree with SU Backer, with Salisbury's run offense, I don't expect them to score more than 21 points.....  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 26, 2008, 06:43:55 PM
got back from fla earlier today.  trip was nice, go to fla and get rained on in the morning friday and saturday.  both days turned out to be nice.  enjoyed epcot, good food and brew.  wesley was the better team and they showed it throughout the game.  missed the first kickoff return, still outside with refreshment.  the second kickoff was executed well from the kicking part, low bounced through the entire team, made the mistake of kicking it to beavers side of the field.  larry picks it up splits 2 players and is gone.  still have concerns about the lack of a pass rush, way too much time for the opposing QB.  it should be a good game this week against salisbury.  i think wesley will score against the depleted d of the gulls.  not sure how wesley will handle the option.  the lack of pass rush or push may be a blessing since they dont get upfield and will be in position to make plays.

nnasid, webber is a good matchup for you guys.  they are similar to you in size and numbers.  they play several different formations on O.  i call them a backwards team, run when you think they should pass and vice a versa.  they like to go 5 receivers and run the QB, had some success against wesley with that.  if your D plays like they did in the first half against wesley you should be able to handle them.  they dont do anything special on D and had trouble with the run when wesley went between the tackles, they seemed to be quick to the outside against sweeps.

conrad, hope you enjoved the trip.  since you saw the game along with several others.  do you have the same concern as i do with the lack of a push from the D line?

pawesley, sorry to hear about the shoulder, at least you get some time before the fix up.  will you be making the trip to salisbury?

goldpride, 45 points ???  not sure what you have been watching for the prognostication.  i agree with su backer should be a good game, but can the gulls D shut down the wolverines?

plenty of shake up in the top 25.  is southern oregon any good in naia?  will be interesting to see how the voters look at all the losers, who drops far and who still gets respected due to past performance.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 26, 2008, 09:38:54 PM
wesleydad

Not going to make it.. I have to work I have to squirrel as much money away as I can for my up to 6 weeks of non paid recovery :-X   But it's been 12 weeks and it's  not going to get better without the surgery.. I may get to the Gallaudet game because of the shorter trip.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 26, 2008, 11:18:40 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 26, 2008, 06:43:55 PM
conrad, hope you enjoved the trip.  since you saw the game along with several others.  do you have the same concern as i do with the lack of a push from the D line?

plenty of shake up in the top 25.  is southern oregon any good in naia?  will be interesting to see how the voters look at all the losers, who drops far and who still gets respected due to past performance.
Pass rush? Probably won't need one this week, since the Gulls probably won't throw it too much. :D

I think they've played a lot of teams that have have gotten rid of the ball quickly. It's hard to get sacks that way. I don't have any problem with how Wesley's defense has played this year. I think they were ranked 2nd in the nation coming into the game. They've stopped the run all year. And their pass defense has been good. But they could get a little more pressure. They did loss three guys with a lot of experience from last year, but the new group has been solid, if not spectacular, IMHO.

This week's game is a must win for both teams. The South Region playoff picture and Pool B is looking crowded. Case Western, Wesley/Salibury winner and Huntingdon/LaGrange winner probably grab those three bids.

Plus it looks like there could be a lot of one loss teams around in the nation in Pool C. That's were the high emphasis on in region play and the Del Val loss is really going hurt the loser of this game. Wesley & Salisbury would love to play more in region games, but you have teams like Widener that would rather travel five hours across the state to play in region games than an hour or two away. Guess you can't blame them, they're just trying to get themselves a schedule that can get them to the playoffs.

As far as UMHB losing to Southern Oregon. SOU was 2-5 coming into that game. I read the newspaper account from the Temple Telegraph and it seems that their coach was pretty pleased (suprised?) to beat the Crusaders. That NAIA conference has a pretty good reputation as I remember however, Western Washington, Central Washington (can't remember which) won a NAIA title in the mid late 90's I think. And I think Jon Kitna went to one of them. (Granted that was a while ago, and I don't really know I'm just guessing.)

I wouldn't read too much into though. That's a long trip and the Crusaders are pretty beat up on the offensive side of the ball. They lost 7 or 8 starters from last year's team and have had a rash of injuries to their skill kids. Their tailback Daniels blew out his knee and the transfer they got from Baylor is hurt too, along with a top receiver. They aren't getting as many big plays from their offense as a result. They've still got that speedy, pressure defense.

I think they just got down early after a few turnovers, and had to go to the air a little more than they'd like (similar offensive philosophy to Salisbury, but a little more physical.) They made a couple of nice comebacks from 21-7 to 21-21 and got within 34-28, but they turned it over five times. Not going to win too mant when you do that,

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 26, 2008, 11:37:05 PM
Conrad

How 'bout them PHILS ????

I guess we'll see if the 4th ranked rushing D can stop the 1st rated rushing O. 
Between the two teams over 800yrds per game O. I'll be listening :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 26, 2008, 11:49:18 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 26, 2008, 11:37:05 PM
Conrad

How 'bout them PHILS ????

I guess we'll see if the 4th ranked rushing D can stop the 1st rated rushing O. 
Between the two teams over 800yrds per game O. I'll be listening :D

What did Ryan Howard have to eat before the game?

Should be a great game!! You have to respect the way the Gulls have bounced back from the Del Val loss and the suspensions. Wesley has also taken care of business.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 26, 2008, 11:58:39 PM
Quote from: Conrad on October 26, 2008, 11:49:18 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 26, 2008, 11:37:05 PM
Conrad

How 'bout them PHILS ????

I guess we'll see if the 4th ranked rushing D can stop the 1st rated rushing O. 
Between the two teams over 800yrds per game O. I'll be listening :D

What did Ryan Howard have to eat before the game?

Should be a great game!! You have to respect the way the Gulls have bounced back from the Del Val loss and the suspensions. Wesley has also taken care of business.

  I don't know but I haven't seen Iguchi in the dugout ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 27, 2008, 11:53:41 AM
GOLDPRIDE:
I have to agree with SU Backer on this one. I think its going to be difficult for Salisbury to score 45 points on Wesley. The Wolves stop the option better than anyone the Sea Gulls face. Of course I'm going to pick the maroon and gold but I think the scoring will be more in the 20's and not the 40's. I'm not ready to give my official prediction but I like SU's chances.

I think one key will be if Salisbury can be successful throwing the ball. That doesn't mean putting it in the air 15 to 20 times but just hitting enough passes off playaction to keep the safeties out of the box.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 27, 2008, 05:44:30 PM
XSU...I agree, you have to keep them honest with the pass....a deep ball every so often and maybe you hit a big one to boot.....Wesley is still the team to beat in the ACFC until someone beats them....I think Wesley is under-rated in the poll because of the loss to DelVal...I still say they are the #2 team in the south region (behind MHB)  until proven otherwise.....but I think the Gulls are poised to take that step and win this game. The Gulls will have to play nearly flawless football and we will need Wesley to make a few mistakes to get it done-but it is a do able task! The winner gets in the playoffs and the loser will host a ECAC bowl IMO. Where is Bobby Sheahin (sp?), is he hurt, quit, what? He can throw the ball and was only a tick different than Ronnie running the option. Anybody out there know?
Anyway, as always may they all come out healthy and GO GULLS! See you all saturday......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: GOLDPRIDE on October 28, 2008, 11:50:39 AM
SU GULL and Backer,
"I got cited." CW -

I know that Wesley has the antidote for the SU/Navy option.  There d-ends are the key to its success or failure.  I am hoping for points from those unexpected places in order to win this one i.e. special teams and defense.

Any idea of weather that day?  Not sure who would benefit from rainy weather. 

I have to stick with my prediction even though it is a shot in the dark.  I'm just hoping for a good game.   

Go GULLS
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 28, 2008, 11:59:55 AM
The defensive ends will be a key for Wesley in stopping the option. Its no secret that Salisbury is going to run the ball. SU will run if there are seven, eight, or even nine men in the box. I think my early statement about the Gulls hitting a few passing plays is going to be key. You have to think that the Wesley linebackers are going to be running downhill at 100 mph to stop the run. It takes a discipline defense to stop the option and Wesley has shown that in the past few years.

Goldpride, you asked who benefits from rainy weather and of course its a running team. Salisbury isn't the only team in the conference that can run the ball. I might be mistaken but I think the Wolves are averaging near 200 yards of ground work a game. Rain makes the option a bit more difficult to operate in, but it shouldn't be too big of a factor for either team. The only thin rain might do is slow down Wesley's air attack.

I don't even know if its supposed to rain this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 28, 2008, 01:32:56 PM
I just saw that Salisbury dropped from #16 to #17 in the AFCA Poll and from #15 to #16 in the D3football Poll despite winning last week. Maybe coach Wood will play the "respect card" to the Gulls and use this as motivation this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 28, 2008, 04:10:45 PM
If they need Willamette's defeat of Linfield as inspiration before the Wesley game, then Salisbury's in trouble.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 28, 2008, 04:20:46 PM
All I know is that I got my leave approved to take off Saturday.  I will be there!   :D


That said, I really think the only way Salisbury can win is if Wesley self destructs with fumbles and penalties.  Unfortunately, it is a definate possibility, although Wesley has done pretty well in the last couple games keeping both numbers somewhat in check.  I'm keeping these fingers crossed!

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 28, 2008, 06:32:33 PM
hey backer, pride, gull, where is the tailgating area for salisbury.  last time i was there the only area that i saw that was being used by some was across the street from the field.  is there any specific spot to park?  i know the field is in an industrial park away from the campus.  any info you can give will be helpful.

teamski, look us up when you get down there, i always wear my sons army bucket hat and am easy to find.

ski, i agree with you for the most part.  wesley seems to be the better team and if they play that way they should win.  it seems that they have not shown all that they have on offense so far this year and this week will be a good time to bring it all out.  i am not sure how salisbury will defend them with the lose of the players earlier in the year, they did not play well against delval.  salisbury seems to have stepped up the d the last couple of games but i am sure that the teams they have played dont compare to wesley.  should be fun game and the weather looks to be in the low 60's and sunny.  see you there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 28, 2008, 07:00:28 PM
that's a lot better forecast than the three inches of snow  i have outside right now
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 28, 2008, 09:35:06 PM
Wesleydad.....unfortunately Salisbury is probably the least tailgate friendly place I have been to (especially if your tailgate includes alcohol)....and I went to every home and away for the previous 4 years. I really feel they have stepped up even more this year in checking of the "red cups". If you want to just grill etc., then you have a few options but not many. The street the stadium is on has a few lots south of the stadium that fill up pretty early. In the future I have been told there will be a designated area, but I will believe it when I see it.  This should be another good game....Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 28, 2008, 10:52:15 PM
backer, thanks for the info.  plan on being there about 1030 - 1100.  will have to see how it goes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 29, 2008, 06:49:25 PM
Wow, talk about insult to injury.  Wesley isn't even listed on the NCAA Regional rankings.  Man, that sux.  They really need to move out of the ACFC and into a real conference.  This whole scheduling headache is taking it's toll.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 29, 2008, 10:24:04 PM
su guys, any word about the players that were removed earlier being reinstated. i have heard, unofficially, that some of them may get reinstated in time for the wesley game.  not sure how that would look for the program if they are brought back at this time.  if, as has been mentioned earlier by someone else, some of them had nothing to do with the situation then one would wonder why they werent allowed back earlier than this week?  also, would it be good for the gulls if they are brought back since the team seems to have stepped it up since the situation.  as i said, only heard that it might happen, no official info.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 30, 2008, 08:47:02 AM
I know that Justin Acker has been on the sidelines the past few weeks and he played in last week's game.

As far as the other players involved, I haven't heard anything.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 30, 2008, 10:00:45 AM
As XSUGull has already mentioned,  Senior Justin Aker (#1) DB and Co-Captain is back, and according to the attached link a Marcel McCain was also on the team.  In checking SU's roster, I saw a Marcel McCain, however I couldn't find a Ricardo McCain (one of the 5 players referenced), therefore I don't know if they are one in the same person.

Would someone down in the "Bury" respond to an earlier post regarding the status of Bobby Sheahin?


http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081019/SPORTS/810190352&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 30, 2008, 10:27:10 AM
I think that Marcel McCain and Ricardo McCain are the same person. I am pretty sure that Acker and McCain have returned to the team while the other three are no longer with the program. I'm not sure if McCain traveled to Becker this past weekend but I do know that Acker did. He recorded two tackles.

As far as Bobby Sheahin, I'm not sure what his status is. He certainly hasn't been used as much as he was last year.
Title: TAILGULLING
Post by: GOLDPRIDE on October 30, 2008, 12:06:48 PM
  Tailgating is tough at the Bury.  There is always the option to tailgate in the school lot and walk to the field; not sure how the security works now a days but there you will see when the teams are making the way to the field, then you have about 30 minutes to fill up and head out.    

I saw McCain and Acker on the sidelines at homecoming.  Not sure about the rest.  I believe Coach had to take quick action at first and once the facts settled; players were mostly likely dealt with individually.  This was done two weeks prior to Wesley; not an exception or anything.  

Should be a good one.

see you sat.  

GO GULLS
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 30, 2008, 12:16:00 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on October 30, 2008, 10:27:10 AM
I think that Marcel McCain and Ricardo McCain are the same person. I am pretty sure that Acker and McCain have returned to the team while the other three are no longer with the program. I'm not sure if McCain traveled to Becker this past weekend but I do know that Acker did. He recorded two tackles.

As far as Bobby Sheahin, I'm not sure what his status is. He certainly hasn't been used as much as he was last year.

XSUGull:

Thanks for the feedback!  I use to make it down to Salisbury for two home games when my daughter was a student.  I'll have to settle to listening on wico via the internet.  Hopefully the Gulls are able to pull out a win!.  As it has been mentioned, the Gulls must keep the ball off the carpet in order to have a chance for a win.

GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 30, 2008, 09:04:32 PM
goldpride and subacker, thanks for the info.  it is nice to see that things got cleared up as soon as possible, the innocent should get to play and the guilty shoud be sent packing.  also, thanks for the info on tailgating.  will have to see how it goes.  look me up guys, i am easy to find, i wear my sons army bucket hat, he is stationed in afghanistam until december.  really looking forward to the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 30, 2008, 10:00:54 PM
Wesley/Salisbury is almost here...

Wesley knows what they have to do to stop Salisbury. Stop the run and make the Gulls throw the ball. Wesley once again has one of the top DIII run defenses in the county, Salisbury has the best run offense. Salisbury has had some trouble holding onto the ball as has Wesley.
  Salisbury has to decide what they want to stop Wesley from doing on offense, the passing game which found another threat last week in McAndrew to compliment Beavers  and Lanouette. The running game has been solid.

  If Salisibury has an achillies heal on special teams that could be trouble. I don't think Beavers will get any chance at running back a kick off but if Salisbury tries to kick it away fron him that can lead to out of bound klicks giving Wesleya short field. He has also run back some punts so I am sure the Gulls will be aware of him.


We'll be listening up here in Pa. Should be a good match up
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AJK on October 31, 2008, 10:11:39 AM
Hey All
I'm new to the D3 Post patterns but have been viewing them for some time. I am a Wesley fan and wish I could be at this game in Salisbury.  I think this game is going to be decided on who can hold on to the ball. Both teams have not done this well all year. I know Wesley's loss to Del Val was in part to turnovers and penalty's. Salisbury is also in the negative when its comes to turnover ratio. Who ever gives the ball up on a short field probably wont make the playoffs. That being said if turnovers are not a factor Wesley's Offense is to balanced and Salisbury will have there hands full with the tandem of Pennewell and Jackson.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 31, 2008, 11:51:03 AM
Quote from: AJK on October 31, 2008, 10:11:39 AM
Hey All
I'm new to the D3 Post patterns but have been viewing them for some time. I am a Wesley fan and wish I could be at this game in Salisbury.  I think this game is going to be decided on who can hold on to the ball. Both teams have not done this well all year. I know Wesley's loss to Del Val was in part to turnovers and penalty's. Salisbury is also in the negative when its comes to turnover ratio. Who ever gives the ball up on a short field probably wont make the playoffs. That being said if turnovers are not a factor Wesley's Offense is to balanced and Salisbury will have there hands full with the tandem of Pennewell and Jackson.

Welcome to the board AJK!  We can use all the help we can, hehehee......  Hope to see you at the games whenever you can make them.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on October 31, 2008, 02:39:00 PM
I have been slacking with my predictions the past few weeks but I found a little bit of time to give my opinion on the big game this weekend.

It's really no secret that Salisbury is going to try and run the ball. The Wesley defense can load the box with as many men as they want and the Sea Gulls will still attempt to run the option. Salisbury has the ability in their running game to break a big play on any number of their options but there isn't a defense in the region (possibly the country) that is better prepared to stop the triple-option than Wesley.

Wesley on the other hand is extremely balanced and has the skill to run the ball for an entire drive or air it out. They have playmakers all over the field. Larry Beavers might be the biggest name on the Wesley roster and the SU secondary is going to have their hands full if the defensive line can't get pressure on the quarterback. Jarrell Chandler and Paul Cynewski lead the Gulls in sacks and tackles-for-loss and they will play a big part in the success of the SU defense.

I think that Salisbury will be fairly successful running the ball against Wesley. I don't know if they will get to their 400+ yard clip they average, but they should be able to move the ball down the field. Just as I think SU should be able to move the ball I also think the balance of Wesley should be able to keep the chains moving. I'm not calling for a 50+ point shoot out but I don't predict a defensive struggle. If Salisbury plays with fire and kicks to Beavers they may get burned. Special teams are always important in big games and I think the Sea Gulls should neutralize the Wolverine's return game by kicking away from him or even squib-kicking the ball. This should be a close game down the waning moments of the contest. I give Salisbury the edge because it's at Sea Gull Stadium and this is a prediction from a former Gull.

Salisbury 27
Wesley 23
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on October 31, 2008, 04:34:57 PM
article on the game

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081031/SPORTS/810310334/1006/SPORTS
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 31, 2008, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on October 31, 2008, 04:34:57 PM
article on the game

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081031/SPORTS/810310334/1006/SPORTS

As we always say, leave it to Beavers....  ;)  It will be one awesome game tommorow.  I will be in #18 as usual!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 31, 2008, 11:26:49 PM
xsugull, i am not sure how you came up with the fairly sure that they can run the ball against wesley when they only ran for 274 against delval.  they will not get near 400 yards, if they do they will crush wesley which is not likely.  wesley will win this game if they do not turn the ball over more than salisbury does.  bottom line is that they are better.  they should be able to move the ball as easily as delval did since they have a better running game and passing game than delval does.  i expect the game to be a good one, but wesley should win the game by 10+.

teamski, i will look for you tomorrow.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AJK on November 01, 2008, 11:59:59 AM
 McSweeney is going to have a big game today. Since he's been the starter he's played 1 fourth quarter.  He takes care of the football and is very accurate, this what Wesley lacked last year. This kid is the answer to Chris Warrick. Coach Knapp is going to pull out all stops today and McSweeney will be let loose on the ground and in the air. Like I said if Wesley holds on to the ball this game wont be close.

Prediction:   Wesley 38  Salisbury 17
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on November 01, 2008, 12:09:59 PM
I by no means think that Salisbury will rush for 400 yards against Wesley. I just think that SU will be able to move the ball and probably get in the area of 250 to 275 yards on the ground. When you run that much, and you are as good as Salisbury is at running, you are going to get your yards. I know that Wesley has a great run defense and  I expect them to make big plays. Its just my opinion that SU will be able to move the ball a little on offense.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 01, 2008, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on November 01, 2008, 12:09:59 PM
I by no means think that Salisbury will rush for 400 yards against Wesley. I just think that SU will be able to move the ball and probably get in the area of 250 to 275 yards on the ground. When you run that much, and you are as good as Salisbury is at running, you are going to get your yards. I know that Wesley has a great run defense and  I expect them to make big plays. Its just my opinion that SU will be able to move the ball a little on offense.



Salisbury got the big plays last year when the had isolation and got outside.  If they get the corner that makes the difference. Inside they will get some yards but the Wesley linebackers are  good as a group persuing the ball. The bigger question is can Salisbury stop Wesley on D. Will be interseting   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 01, 2008, 02:08:55 PM
wesley moving the ball well 22-7 2 mins to half
Title: Wesley 36 Salisbury 21
Post by: AJK on November 01, 2008, 04:58:54 PM
  Congrats to Wesley for a huge win.  McSweeny has a big day today on the gound (77 1TD) and in the air (203 2TD). Lanouette is a man amongst boys. It was  the Gulls plan to take Beavers out of the game and they did a good job at that but just gave up to much field possition on there kickoffs. Amazing how Beavers has a big impact on offense and barrely gets the ball. When is to much attention to much? Props to Salisbury's QB. Sounded like he's what makes that offense go. Sean Matthews was all over the place on D. Drass has got to happy with the defense performance.  On to Ohio for a tune up against Lake Erie.
   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 01, 2008, 05:54:02 PM
Sounded like it was the typical Route 13 battle.

Builders lose 13-10 to Webber International on a 26-yard field goal in the first overtime period.  Matt Edelen hit a 30-yard field goal for the Builders (just curved inside the upright) to send it into overtime.

Wesley fans...I'd like you chances next week.  Lake Erie isnt bad for a first-year team, but you should handle things.
Any tailgaters (pa, wesleydad) you have plenty of space in the parking lot there. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 01, 2008, 07:15:22 PM
Well, I finally got back from Salisbury and all I can say is what a game!  The Sea Gulls put up quite a fight.  I was surprised with some of the passes that Curley made in the game.  He duped the Wesley secondary with a couple big plays.   He Ran really well.

Wesley kept mistakes down to a single turn-over and not too many penalties.   That's what won the game for them in the end.  The offense did really well starting up, but petered out midway through the game.  Luckily, a stout defense limited the Gulls to 21 points (as was accurately predicted by yours trully  ;)) and the offense awakened again in the 4th.  Hats off to McSweeney as he did a great job throwing and running. 

The Gulls did a good job keeping the ball from Larry Beavers, although that gave Wesley great field position throughout the day as Salisbury short-kicked the ball.  So what you gain without Beavers, you lost with poor kicking.

Jon Lanouette (mispronounced throughout the game by the announcer as Lonette), had a great game and really came back to the fore. 

Well, it's now time to wait to see if Wesley gets the Pool B bid without being on the Regional list.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 01, 2008, 07:56:35 PM

.Wesleydad,

Congrats on your team making it through the always tough Gulls game.We are on course for our meeting

in late november;so far so good.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 01, 2008, 08:27:53 PM
muledaddy

be careful what you wish for
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 01, 2008, 09:34:56 PM
just got back from salisbury via a stop in dover.  the game went as i expected.  wesley did what had to be done on d, holding the gulls rushing attack under 200 yards.  i have to give credit to the gulls QB hurley, he is an excellent player and if not for several dropped passes this could have been a different game.  i still have concerns with the lack of a pass rush although hurley had many quick passes.  when he did set up he had plenty of time and if wesley comes across a passing team i think they may be in trouble without a pass rush.  jon lanuette made 2 excellent catches for his touchdowns, coming back for an underthrown pass for the first td and getting away from a hold on the second one.  this win will hopefully move wesley into the top 10 in the region.

muledaddy, the end of november is not far off, but i am not sure if there will be any meeting since it seems that too many things are still up in the air.  congrats on your win also.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 01, 2008, 09:41:40 PM
gulls fans, sorry for the miss type, i meant curley when talking about your QB
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on November 02, 2008, 07:53:59 AM
Wesley just has better players all over the field.  If Curley could have hit the broad side of a barn with his passes in the first half, this game may have been closer.  Not saying the Gulls would have won, just closer.  Everyone gears up so much to stop the run, that they can usually hit some wide open passes.  The qb just has to get the ball to the receiver, which Curley didn't do in the first half.  SU's o-line just got beat throughout most of the day and they weren't getting the cut blocks on the edge that make the option go.  Good luck in the playoffs to Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 02, 2008, 08:55:00 AM
 I agree with Bigtoe on some points, but Curley had as many passes dropped as open recievers that were missed. Curley's play  wasn't the reason for the loss, his running of the offense kept SU in the game IMO. A option QB is just that, if you get a kid that can throw like McSweeney and run the option that is a rare find indeed. As far as my take, I agree, Wesley was the better team and deserved to win that game. I was impressed with Wesley's overall size-their weight room program is obviously ahead of Salisbury's. But (always a but), I thought the game plan was flawed going in. Giving Wesley the ball all day on a short field by pooch kicking on kickoffs was not a recipe to win this game. I know Beavers is by far the best return guy in D3, but you can't put your defense on a short field all day. I think you have to take a chance and kick it to him. The way we did it, we ensured he would beat us, without having to touch the ball! Good luck to Wesley in the playoffs...as I have said all along Wesley is bound for the South Region championship game...they are that good. As for my beloved Gulls, don't let down! Beat Frostburg in the Regents Cup @ the Naval Academy...GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 02, 2008, 09:12:55 AM
Quote from: SU Backer on November 02, 2008, 08:55:00 AM
I agree with Bigtoe on some points, but Curley had as many passes dropped as open recievers that were missed. Curley's play  wasn't the reason for the loss, his running of the offense kept SU in the game IMO. A option QB is just that, if you get a kid that can throw like McSweeney and run the option that is a rare find indeed. As far as my take, I agree, Wesley was the better team and deserved to win that game. I was impressed with Wesley's overall size-their weight room program is obviously ahead of Salisbury's. But (always a but), I thought the game plan was flawed going in. Giving Wesley the ball all day on a short field by pooch kicking on kickoffs was not a recipe to win this game. I know Beavers is by far the best return guy in D3, but you can't put your defense on a short field all day. I think you have to take a chance and kick it to him. The way we did it, we ensured he would beat us, without having to touch the ball! Good luck to Wesley in the playoffs...as I have said all along Wesley is bound for the South Region championship game...they are that good. As for my beloved Gulls, don't let down! Beat Frostburg in the Regents Cup @ the Naval Academy...GO GULLS!

I completely agree with you on the kicking.  We were talking about it during the game that if they kept on pooch kicking it, we were going to be in really good shape.  All wesley had to do was to fair-catch it on the 40 every time.  You would of figured that after the first kick that Salisbury would of reverted to deep kicking it.  But they didn't.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 02, 2008, 11:11:17 AM
subacker, i agree with you on curley.  i also dont get the pooch kick, there is another half of the field and if you at least force beavers to move to the ball he may make a mistake.  you certainly can not keep giving any team the ball at the 40 and expect to stop them from scoring points.

on another note, the field looks good compared to the last time i was there, 2 years ago.  also, not any problems tailgating in the lot by the baseball field.  only saw campus security one time as they drove through about an hour and a half before game time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 02, 2008, 02:59:45 PM
See where your teams ranks against the nation. Stats thru 10/25.
NCAA has put your conference with the independents.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2008/Internet/conf%20stats/2008000099020TD.HTML (http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2008/Internet/conf%20stats/2008000099020TD.HTML)

enjoy
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 02, 2008, 04:05:57 PM
Congratulations pawesley_fan, wesleydad, teamski, and the other Wolverine faithful.  Good luck in the playoffs, and keep the ACFC banner waving!

Good Luck Gulls in the Reagents cup.  It's looks like an ECAC game will be in our future.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 03, 2008, 09:06:15 PM
 Wesley fans.....how does Frostburg look this year? I know we are playing for a ECAC bowl game, but beating Frostburg is almost as good as getting to the playoffs for me. One more question for you guys...does Wesley have a strength coach that is dedicated strictly to football, or does one of the coaches handle the duties or?? I was impressed with the "thickness" on the Wesley squad this year. I know SU works very hard all year round, but hard work needs to be applied properly to achieve "football" strength. GO GULLS and Beat Frostburg baby!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 03, 2008, 09:39:30 PM
subacker, frostburg does not compare to your team.  dont put the ball on the ground and you should win the game by at least 3 td's.

as far as the lifting program, i am not sure about a specific strength coach, but they expected all the players to lift as often as possible.  my son had a program that i dont think was that fancy, i have been lifting for 18 years and nothing they were doing seemed to be ground breaking.  i know that a large part of the team made close to 85% of all the lifting sessions which will make a difference.
Title: Wesley
Post by: GOLDPRIDE on November 04, 2008, 06:09:59 PM
Congrats to Wesley and represent in the playoffs, we'll all be watching.  The only positive for the Gulls with an ECAC game is the seniors have a better chance to go out on a W.  Playoffs would be ideal but a post season game is better than unbuckling it and going to work after Frostburg. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 04, 2008, 08:14:41 PM
Ryan Tipps

Great job on the NNA piece in around the region.  IMHO the Builders deserve some props. In a way they are the ultimate student/athlete.. The numbers of hours they put into there chosen fields and school work and then lace em up against some tough teams week after week is commendable.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 04, 2008, 08:17:58 PM
wesleydad

Make sure you check the weather up at Lake Erie :D. That cold front will more than likely be there before it gets down here Sunday. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 04, 2008, 08:26:23 PM
pawesley, yea, already looking at it, showers in the low 50's on saturday.  hopefully, it will move quickly and be gone by game time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2008, 09:34:39 PM
Great article on the Apprentice School!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 04, 2008, 09:44:55 PM
Thanks Ralph and wesleyfan! I appreciate the compliments. Doing the interviews was an interesting learning experience for me.

Also, some thanks from me to nnasid, who helped me fill in the background pieces of the article.  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 05, 2008, 09:24:53 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 04, 2008, 09:44:55 PM
Thanks Ralph and wesleyfan! I appreciate the compliments. Doing the interviews was an interesting learning experience for me.

Also, some thanks from me to nnasid, who helped me fill in the background pieces of the article.  :)


Thank You Ryan for that article.  Very well written for someone learning about us.  We dont hide the fact of being unique and you worked that in well.

wesleydad....the field is down a hill off the main road.  Pray the wind is nice or you better bring the house to keep warm
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 05, 2008, 07:42:20 PM
nnasid, nice article about your kids.  i have always respected them when we played them knowing what they did during the day.  thanks for the info about lake erie.  i am stopping at the storage to get the wrap for the tent to block some of the wind when we get there to do a little tailgating before the game.  also bringing the keep warm/keep dry gear just in case the forecast stays the same for the weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 08, 2008, 01:37:33 PM
Wesley taking care of business against Lake Erie.  They are leading 20-0 after the 1st quarter.... :o

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 08, 2008, 01:52:47 PM
ski...hows the weather out there????
0-0 builders vs. frostburg with 3 minutes left in first half

Frostburg had a 30 yard FG blocked while we tried a 39-yarder that hit the crossbar ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 08, 2008, 02:17:32 PM
It's wet, windy, cold and it's getting real ugly.  :-[  The first half just ended with a 47-0 lead. Wesley had 424 yards of offense!  Wow....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 08, 2008, 03:55:40 PM
The game just ended with Wesley not doing anything in the second half, 47-26.  Wesley backed waaay off with lots of reserves in action in the second half.  It could of easily been 80-0.  Hats off to Lake Erie in playing the game to the end.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 09, 2008, 11:52:24 AM
  The Huntingdon loss yesterday helps Wesley a bit depending on if Wesley moved passed them in the regional rankings. There are still four teams fighting for three B bids so the Huntingdon/LaGrange,  St. Thomas/ Northwestern(Minn). games are the ones to watch.   CWRU gets the top B  bid as long as they win this week and then there is Husson
who throws another fly in the oinment
  Wesley may get a home game but only if there is a dreaded (Texas bracket) Wesley/Catholic match- up would be intersting. But with a sub bracket set up in the South ,Wesley could go to Muhlenburg ;D  in the first round.
  None the less everyone else will be underestimating this Wesley team.
But first they have to get in...

  Ski

Don't let those posters from the E8 brainwash you ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 09, 2008, 01:34:35 PM
Interesting..Then again the mules could go east and take away some of, (which I know you really want the game against the Mules) your fun.

Yes, I read the daddy alreay taking up the injury report, but all teams should be banged up at this point.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 09, 2008, 02:14:56 PM
just got back from the trip to lake erie.  easy drive and an easy win.  cant take much out of the game since wesley was clearly superior.  i am still concerned about a lack of pass rush.  lake erie had several receivers open in the first half and dropped passes.  wesley put very little pressure on the qb.  i am not sure how things are going to line up in the playoffs, assuming that they will get in, if they play a pass oriented team.  many of the teams in the south like to run the ball, but i know that some of the teams battling for a spot like to throw it.  matchups will determine how far this team can go, but they are certainly good enough to win the south or east regions if they get in.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 09, 2008, 03:14:09 PM
Quote from: old ends on November 09, 2008, 01:34:35 PM
Interesting..Then again the mules could go east and take away some of, (which I know you really want the game against the Mules) your fun.

Yes, I read the daddy alreay taking up the injury report, but all teams should be banged up at this point.

old ends

Until the brackets are out there all we can do is speculate. especially after last years team movements to different regions.  Muledaddy is enthusiastic to a fault ;) He sometimes goes over the edge but there are certainly many,many more fans and parents out there who feel  the way he does about there teams, they just don't want to take the heat for showing it.

  wesleydad

Should be making the trip this week but probably won't be hitting Dover as early. I am still stalking some dinner ;D  I don't think it will be a much different result from this week.
Coach Hottle did coach at Wesley a few years back. As for the pass rush I wouldn't be surprised to see different wrinkles when  the playoffs start. Drops or not teams aren't throwing for hundred s of yrds against it.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 09, 2008, 04:54:48 PM
pawesley, we will be were we always are with the usually company.  planning plenty of food since it is senior day.  sandwiches and such, not sure if bells will be grilling.  you are always welcome. :D  as far as the d goes, they have not played any team this year that throws the ball very well.  i am thinking of the wash and jeffs and catholics who seem to throw it all game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 09, 2008, 09:29:43 PM
There is a post on the North Eastern Athletic Conference men's hoops message board that SUNY-Morrisville is leaving the SUNYAC for the NEAC in 2009-10.

I have not found a press release on the NEAC or the Morrisville websites to confirm this.

Moving to the NEAC would allow Morrisville to be more competitive as they move to full status in 2010, and help the NEAC keep their AQ's in several sports.

Whether Morrisville wanted to continue in the NJAC as a football affiliate is another question.  With the North Atlantic Conference offering a less challenging slate of teams for Morrisville, the Mustangs would be more successful.

This would open dates for Wesley, albeit likely non-conference/non-in-region dates, unless Wesley moved to the East Region.  (Salisbury and Frostburg would still be in-region games by being in Administrative Region #1.)

This is all preliminary and needs confirmation.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 09, 2008, 09:35:44 PM
I don't think Morrisville to the NEAC changes its football affiliation. Morrisville is already an affiliate with the NJAC for football -- its full conference affiliation is with the SUNYAC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 12, 2008, 05:11:44 PM
well, the regional rankings are out and wesley barely moves.  imo they are sitting behind some teams that they a clearly better than and hopefully they get the chance to prove it come playoff time.  their schedule really hurts them in the regionals.  it looks more and more like they will play some more road games this season as it looks like they will not climb high enough.  maybe a trip to catholic in the first round or maybe even one to muhlenburg.  play a wait and see until sunday at 300.

pawesley, not sure if you know but game time is slated for 200.  hope to see you there.

teamski, stop by the tailgating area if you are in attendance.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 12, 2008, 05:21:38 PM
Is the Wesley game really a 2:00 pm start ??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 12, 2008, 05:24:19 PM
beenhit2hard, yes, even on the tickets that i got sent to me at the beginning of the season say 200.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 12, 2008, 05:31:19 PM
Wesley, I think that you are sitting pretty.

Let's see what happens in LaGrange on Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 12, 2008, 06:07:09 PM
  wesleydad,, thanks for the info,,,I won't have to leave till 11:00 to be there in plenty of time !!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 12, 2008, 06:27:03 PM
beenhit2hard, make sure you stop by and say high.  we will have some food, not quite the level of stone station, but food nonetheless.  i will have my sons army bucket hat on and i remember meeting you last year in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 12, 2008, 08:52:35 PM
well all, it looks like the weather is going to suck this weekend.  shame that it cant be nice for senior day.  i cant believe that this is the last regular season game for my son.  they say time flies when you are having fun and i have to agree with that.  it has been fun, 2 trips to the semis, one to the quarters, and still waiting for the rest of this year which i think will go as least as far as the quarters.  eventhough this year did not go as expected for the boy, sometimes decisions get made by others that change things, but it has still been fun.  looking forward to seeing as many people in dover this week as possible since this may be the last home game of the year.  pawesley, we are staying over with plans to drop some coin in the slots at the casino, is your other are ok for pushing a button? ???  remember we have the tent so you can stay dry at least until game time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 12, 2008, 09:00:23 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 12, 2008, 05:11:44 PM
well, the regional rankings are out and wesley barely moves.  imo they are sitting behind some teams that they a clearly better than and hopefully they get the chance to prove it come playoff time.  their schedule really hurts them in the regionals.  it looks more and more like they will play some more road games this season as it looks like they will not climb high enough.  maybe a trip to catholic in the first round or maybe even one to muhlenburg.  play a wait and see until sunday at 300.

pawesley, not sure if you know but game time is slated for 200.  hope to see you there.

teamski, stop by the tailgating area if you are in attendance.

I'll definately make the game.  I will try to drop by with wife and daughter in tow..... ;)

Your son did a great job at Wesley, that is for sure. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 12, 2008, 09:05:02 PM
wesleydad

I sat in the rain for three days last week.   ;D I had a cold to begin with now it's a doozy >:( I have rain gear I bought last year for senior day!!!!It rained then too.

And yes I am sure I can lose just as easily left handed as right. It will take a little longer as I think all the bandits are on the right side ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 12, 2008, 10:46:53 PM
conrad

how come the 2 pm start?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 12, 2008, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 12, 2008, 10:46:53 PM
conrad

how come the 2 pm start?
Wesley is having PPST testing (teacher cert) on Saturday morning and the admin asked to have it moved back. Gallaudet was fine with it. Looks like we might see some lights on at Miller Stadium.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 12, 2008, 10:53:33 PM
gives me a little time in the treestand before traveling south ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 12, 2008, 10:54:45 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 12, 2008, 10:53:33 PM
gives me a little time in the treestand before traveling south ;)
Bow or muzzle loader?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 12, 2008, 11:00:50 PM
crossbow.. the shoulder won't  take a shotgun hit so my season will be over soon :-tX
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 12, 2008, 11:22:24 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 12, 2008, 11:00:50 PM
crossbow.. the shoulder won't  take a shotgun hit so my season will be over soon :-tX
Crossbow explains it.... didn't think  pulling a bow back or a shotgun would be good on the shoulder.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 13, 2008, 09:53:59 PM
 I was holding out hope that SU might get some consideration for the playoffs, but the predictions don't even mention them. It hurts too, that several teams they beat are looking like they are getting in. We have got to get in a conference with a AQ.  Somebody ....anybody.....help?
Wesleydad.....you and I have been on opposite sides for a few years on this board as far as teams we pull for ;), but in knowing the class you have carried yourself with this year on the board in dealing with your son's situation is to be commended. You have stayed positive for your team and pulled for all the guys. A lot of people (parents) I have seen are happy as long as things are going their way, which is easy, but it is tough to stay the course if your kid is not getting the reps. You have been upbeat and all year. Although I have never met you,  I wish you and Wesley the best this year in the playoffs. Run the damn table in the South Region!
Anyway Regents Cup Saturday night @ the Naval Academy Stadium against Frostburg which is always a real battle.
GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 13, 2008, 10:08:16 PM
SU Backer

  I think if everything lines up just right Salisbury could still steal that last spot.  If a few of those Pool C teams lose again you never know. The non region games are really killing both our teams...  The Gulls certainly played the best competition they could.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 13, 2008, 10:22:34 PM
subacker, not sure how to respond except for thank you.  it would do no good for me to rant and rave about how i feel about how things have gone this year with my son.  my opinion is useless as i am not the coach of the team, if i were things would be just a little different :).  we have enjoyed the time we have gotten to see him play and never expected him to play this much.  i have a feeling that he will get a chance to do something that makes a difference at some point in the playoffs and that will make how he has handled it worth it.  if i had handled it any different it would have been in direct contrast to what i tried to teach him when he was younger about handling adversity and decisions that others make that affect him.

as far as you and i exchanging a little banter in support of our teams, that is what makes sport so much fun.  you guys are always fair in your comments about wesley and hopefully we have done likewise.  good luck against frostburg and maybe things break your way as pawesley stated.

the playoffs should be a treat as i think we will be on the road which it seems like we have been all year.  i am not sure how many teams really want to play wesley.  except for a badly played second half agaisnt delval, this team would be ranked in the top 4 in the country and a lock for the 1 seed in the south.  they need to take care of business this weekend and see how things play out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 13, 2008, 10:30:45 PM
 I would like you to be right Pa, I also hope my Gulls don't let down this week and let one slip away that they should take care of, or they may not even get a home ECAC game.  3 teams that SU beat this year look to be set for the playoffs-Albright, Christopher Newport, and St John Fisher. Thomas More lost to Geneva, a team that SU thoroughly whipped and TMC is in too. The playoffs don't always have the best 32 teams in the country, but if we would have beaten Del Valley I think we would have made it, so no one to blame, we just didn't get it done. I have not seen Millsaps, but if they are better than the Wesley team that played us they must be awesome. I am obviously not a Wesley fan but that team is loaded and I think they will win the South region. Good Luck to all the seniors Saturday and in the future. Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 13, 2008, 10:45:01 PM
....Man, this season went by fast, didn't it?   :(  Good luck in the Regent's SU Backer.  And good luck on getting into the post seaon.  I always like it when 50% of a conference make into the playoffs!   8)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on November 14, 2008, 01:03:19 PM
Wesley has been at the top of the class in the ACFC and the South Region for a number of years now. I expect big things out of them throughout the playoffs.

On paper Salisbury shouldn't have any issues with FSU, but the game isn't played on paper. For whatever reason the Gulls have struggled when they are the favorite in the Regents Cup. Last season was a strong win for the SU. I see them cruising in this game and maybe sneaking in the backdoor of the playoffs. If not the field of 32 then I suspect the Gulls will be hosting an ECAC game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 14, 2008, 05:37:54 PM
I think if when they win Saturday they host a ECAC game....if they would slip up they probably travel to someone else's house to play. The ECAC game isn't so bad as a senior let's face it, unless you are Mount you probably won't finish with a win, and the ECAC game gives you a real good chance to go out with a W. I don't see the playoffs at all this year though. May all the athletes come out of their games healthy and GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 14, 2008, 07:32:13 PM
well, here we are on the eve of my son's final game of the regular season.  first, i would like to thank all the people whom i have met these past 4 + years in person, my life has been made richer by my contact with you.  my son has really appreciated all the compliments he has received from all of you and especially appreciates the time he has spent with some of you in person. 

we have been blessed with a son who has been given the ability to play a sport that most of us only wish we could play.  these past 4 years have so exceeded our expectations that i can not even begin to try to explain it. 

at this time i would like to extend a thank you to pawesleyfan, teamski, etc. for your support of a great program even when you have no tie to it.  secondly, i would like to thank the guys of stone station, you guys rock and i cant wait to see you again either at wesley or the stagg bowl.  we are hooked on this d3 thing as most of you are.  next, my kudos go out to the guys at d3, without you this would have been extremely boring.  keith, i was so glad to meet you last year, your professionalism is only exceeded by your writing.  conrad and gordan, your kind words of support this year have been appreciated. 

finally, i would like to thank my son, without whom this would have never been possible.  jason, you have handled yourself with the greatest of professionalism in the toughest of times.  some would have walked away, you decided to do what was right and do what you could for the team.  i, as a father could not be any more proud of the way you have turned out as a young man, thanks for all the memories these past 4 years and god bless you.  thanks to everyone whom i have spoken to on this site and i look forward to the continued meeting of as many of you as i can.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 14, 2008, 07:45:05 PM
Wesleydad:

One thing you must remember...your son is a product of what you , your wife, and family did for him. I often tell the Centennial fathers that the fact that rain, snow or not feeling well does not keep parents away from the games the sons, and/or daughters, are playing in. Yes it feel good to watch and  have an athlete that does play sports. You took time for the practices that got him to that point.  A lot of people do not understand the dedication of the parent.

So therefore I tip my cap to you for getting your son, to and thru another rememberence of parenting.

good job!!! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 14, 2008, 07:51:51 PM
old ends,  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 14, 2008, 08:02:08 PM
Well stated Wesleydad.  It's been nice knowing you as well.  We'll see you at the game!  ;)

-Ski

p.s.  If the new GI Bill works out, I will be a retired GI going full time to Wesley next year......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 15, 2008, 08:23:10 AM
getting ready to head to dover.  looks like the weather is not cooperating so it will be a wet one, thank goodness for turf.  hope to see as many of you there as can make it.  stop by, we will still be tailgating, thank goodness for a tent. ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 15, 2008, 10:16:02 AM
Heading for Dover in 20 mins...Sitting in the rain and watching a game at Wesley isn't so bad ,Unless you have an easterly wind :-X Got the rain gear ready :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2008, 05:20:35 PM
Thankfully, the rain held off and we had a sunny game.  Wesley led Gallaudet 41-0 at halftime and went on to win with reserves in the second half 55-7.  Gallaudet was applauded by Wesley fans for their touchdown in the 4th quarter.  I thought that was pretty neat.  Hats off to the Gallaudet players.  They definately played with spirit.

So, now it's off to the playoffs for Wesley......

-Ski


ps....Old Wesley away jerseys were being sold, and I was lucky to nab Bryan Robinson's #92.  I was giggling like a little school girl on the way home...  Now to repair all of those rips! :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 15, 2008, 06:15:01 PM
The great thing about that is that you know it's authentic!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 15, 2008, 09:37:09 PM
Salisbury defeats Frostburg State 55-14 to win the Regents Cup again!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 15, 2008, 10:17:44 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 15, 2008, 05:20:35 PM
ps....Old Wesley away jerseys were being sold, and I was lucky to nab Bryan Robinson's #92.  I was giggling like a little school girl on the way home...  Now to repair all of those rips! :D

I truely hope it does not smell like locker room. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 15, 2008, 10:43:07 PM
 Another fantastic regular season for the Gulls........the Regents Cup stays in Salisbury AGAIN! 5 years in a row and counting. Great job  guys! ECAC home game should be a lock....damn that loss to DV hurts....this team would have been a tough out in the playoffs. Wesley should rep the conference well though.
Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 16, 2008, 01:45:03 AM
I don't think you should close the book on the NCAA Playoffs yet, SU.  Salisbury has played some decent teams.  Albright losing today doesn't help, along with the SJF loss today as well.  Its going to depend on what the committee sees.  But IMO, Salisbury is in on the conversation.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 16, 2008, 09:38:56 AM
  Saints..... not getting my hopes up after reading Pat's projections as he is usually right on the money....as he has stated before it is not necessarily a collection of the 32 best teams, but rather 32 teams that did what was nesessary to make the field.  I was impressed with the domination of Fostburg last night, all phases were just on fire. They certainly did all they could to put themselves in a good light in the commitee's mind. If it doesn't work out for the playoffs any thoughts on a possible ECAC foe? I would like to see a team we have never played or at least have not played in a while. If Wesley and Mount end up in the same bracket that would suck because I still think Wesley would win the South.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 16, 2008, 10:09:00 AM
just got home from dover, decided to stay over.  good choice since the after game tailgate got wiped out by a quick moving storm and we were soaked.  first, i also would like to give props to the players from galludet.  it is amazing to me that they can run an offense with little or no hearing.  they come to play and should be commended for their performance no matter what the score was.

just looked at the projected brackets and i dont like the move to the east.  after hearing the results from yesterday i was hoping for a least one maybe 2 homegames in the south bracket.  it will be interesting to see how it plays out.  if wesley stays in the west i agree with subacker, they can win the region.  if they go to the east and a possible second round matchup with mount then so be it.  if you want to win the whole thing you figure to have to beat them at some point.

ski and pawesley, good to see you guys yesterday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2008, 02:06:28 PM
weskeydad

did you pack up early after the game? we looked for you.
as for the rain...we were just getting out of the car at the Downs. we sat for a while. and actually didn't lose my shirt this time. didn't win but didn't donate either  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2008, 03:19:23 PM
Wesley and the Mules !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 16, 2008, 03:20:56 PM
How long til we hear from Muledaddy???? Over/under is 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2008, 03:22:02 PM
5 minutes!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 16, 2008, 03:57:34 PM
With the loss yesterday and his son's injury, it may be a over 20 bet.

But I am sure he will be tossing the banter at all of you soon enough.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 16, 2008, 04:05:22 PM
Well, I am thrilled that Wesley was put in the South bracket.  There's something about making the semis that looks attractive. 

A rematch with the Mules should be a great game. Speculating correctly, I was asking my wife yesterday during the game if she was up for a trip to Allentown.  Now that that is a reality, more work is in order, hehehehe.....  I really want to wear my Bryan Robinson jersey at least once this year!!

Wesleydad, it looks like we will be in for a good one.

Go Wolverines!! 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: TrickyTroy on November 16, 2008, 06:51:52 PM
Predictions:
No. 1 Millsaps (10-0) vs No. 8 LaGrange (9-1)
No. 6 Christopher Newport (8-1) vs No. 5 Wash. & Jeff. (9-1)
No. 7 Wesley (9-1) vs No. 4 Muhlenberg (9-1)
No. 3 Hardin-Simmons (9-1) vs No. 2 Mary Hardin-Baylor (9-1)

mine are
Millsap 50-27
W+J 35-14
Mules 31-28
HSU 28-24
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 16, 2008, 08:14:56 PM
well, glad to have stayed in the south, but after the bracket comes out and seeing some of the others, maybe being moved would have been better.  the south is clearly the toughest bracket from top to bottom.  i am not sure how cnu jumps wesley in the region, nor am i sure how wuhlenburg stays as a 4.  when the top 25 comes out there will be 5 of the top 12 teams in this bracket, with 4 of them in the same half.  that seems to be a little ridiculous when you look at the west and see how weak the bottom half of that is.

as far as wesley's chances go, i like the match ups.  wesley is strong against the run and all 3 teams in their half like to run first, at least i believe hardin simmons does.  they have struggled covering the pass in some games so they should be good on d.  as far as the o goes, they can run and pass so they should be able to score some points.  the additional threat of beavers on special teams gives them something most teams dont have, a chance to take any punt or kickoff for a TD.  some teams have elected to pooch kick giving wesley a short field.  i will have to look at millsaps when the capsules come out to see what they do with the ball. 

since the south is matched up with the west, i see no reason to believe that they cant beat the winner of that bracket.  it seems that they have fallen under the radar because of the opening lose and the relativly weak schedule, but they were ranked 3 in the preseason pool and i see no reason to think that they can not reach that point again with a trip to the semis.

muledaddy got his wish, although i am not sure he is as excited about it as he might have been a couple of weeks ago.  based on the last couple of games, it seems that muhlenburg may have peeked a little early.  it should be a good game as it was last year, being at muhlenburg wont matter since they have real artificial turf instead of a rug and wesley has played on the road most of the year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 17, 2008, 10:55:28 AM
Well, it looks like a thumbs-up from the Missus for a trip to Allentown!  I sewed up the ole' #92 jersey and ready to go!  :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 17, 2008, 11:03:01 AM
Wesleydad,

You don't have to wait on the capsules to see what Millsaps will do with the football.  Check the stats... they have a playmaker at QB in Juan Joseph... they move the ball efficiently through the air. 

Their offense will be the ultimate test for any team that faces them.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 17, 2008, 11:10:29 AM
Well, we have to get past Muhlenberg first.  Never, ever look past your next opponent.  Wesley learned that with Montclair St and Del Vall.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 17, 2008, 01:24:57 PM
Looks like Moravian vs Salisbury for ECAC
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 17, 2008, 02:55:52 PM
 I can't make it to Moravian this weekend, but it should be a real good game, both teams with some quality wins on their resumes and looking to end their season with a win especially for the seniors. Both teams were probably one game from making the playoff field. I like the opportunity to play someone that we have not seen from a conference that we also don't usually get a chance to play. Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 17, 2008, 03:59:00 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on November 17, 2008, 02:55:52 PM
I can't make it to Moravian this weekend, but it should be a real good game, both teams with some quality wins on their resumes and looking to end their season with a win especially for the seniors. Both teams were probably one game from making the playoff field. I like the opportunity to play someone that we have not seen from a conference that we also don't usually get a chance to play. Go Gulls!



Good luck Salisbury!!  We'll be pulling for ya!  I think they will do well.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 17, 2008, 05:53:42 PM
saintsfan, thanks for the info.  didnt have time to go stat checking last night.  if they have a play maker at qb and can throw the ball they will give wesley trouble. 

teamski is right, not looking ahead just trying to see what else is going on out there.  i try to keep track of the other areas and up on as many teams as possible, but millsaps was not on my radar, just not enough time to check everyone out.

at least it looks like the weather will be good this week, i am sure muhlenburg will be glad since they have played in enough mess this year.  wesley has been lucky with all the away games, missing the crappy weather.

pawesley, are you making the game since it is right around the corner.  teamski, make sure you stop by again, we will be there in force if we can.  i am waiting on muledaddy to give me some tailgating info so that we dont cause any trouble.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 17, 2008, 07:18:40 PM
Just remember that Muhlenberg and Moravain are about 20 min away from each other. If the game is going your way shoot over to the other and catch the end. I might.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 17, 2008, 07:30:49 PM
ECAC  Lambert Poll Both Wesley and Salisbury are ranked. Congrats to both teams

ECAC® Lambert Meadowlands
Division III Football Poll
presented by FieldTurf Tarkett

1. Ithaca
1. Wesley
3. Cortland State
4. Muhlenberg
5. Washington & Jefferson
6. Trinity
7. Salisbury
8. Hobart
9. Montclair State
10. Rensselaer

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: TrickyTroy on November 17, 2008, 08:14:18 PM
Think the bracket favors wesley think again, UMHB learned how to pass some this year. As far as HSU being a running team, that is just plain idiotic. HSU has been a passing team for well over a decade. Thats why they run the spread with a one back formation.  ;D Better  hope UMHB wins to have a better chance to face Millsap.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 17, 2008, 08:19:32 PM
trickytroy

actually not even thinking about texas this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 17, 2008, 10:02:29 PM
Wesleydad,
I am workng on the tailgating info for you.I know some teams park on the street  behind the Mule stands,
(Liberty) and nobody bothers them. On campus parking is very limited and on campus rules prohibit adult beverages. There is a basketball tournament with about 8 schools in town for it so coming early will be key.
email me at  muledaddy@gmail.com or send me a private message with your email and I wil ty to get more info for you.
This will be an extremely tough game for the Mules, with defense being the key. I know what  youb have and I hope we can stop the multifaceted scoring machine, hoping to squeeze out a 27-24 win on a late field goal.We will have to meet and share a  few stories before the game.If we are really lucky, I bet we will be able to find and meet a
real D3 gentleman of distinction, one of D3's greatest fans, Old Ends.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 17, 2008, 10:05:23 PM
muledaddy, thanks for the info and heads up.  i will email you.  we plan on getting there by 10 since it is a 12 start.  disregard my reply on cc site, i just sent it before i read this one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2008, 11:13:10 AM
wesleydad

We probably won't be hitting Allentown until 11:00a.m. Saturday. I am trying to get some things scheduled early that morning.

muledaddy

Is there parking on the street around the stadium?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 18, 2008, 02:30:18 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2008, 11:13:10 AM
wesleydad

We probably won't be hitting Allentown until 11:00a.m. Saturday. I am trying to get some things scheduled early that morning.

muledaddy

Is there parking on the street around the stadium?


It will probably be the same for us. 
I am getting stoked!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 18, 2008, 04:13:13 PM
Mates,

We have on street parking all around the stadium, but I would getf he canthere early if possible.You can actually hang out on the sidewalks and no one hassles you.Liberty St is most desireable.
The little on campus parking lots near the stadium are undersized and overfilled on a regular game weekend so don't expect much luck getting a space there.I have asked the AD to give us some info and help if possible and will pass it on if he does.
McSweeney, Beavers, Jackson, Pennewal,Lanouette are just  a few of the offensive nightmares I will be having between now and Saturday.
    I hope our O line, bigger and stronger than last year, can get the push for DeLuca and Santagato.Once again, defense will have to carry the day, for 4 quarters, not just 2 like last year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 18, 2008, 08:51:02 PM
To the fans of ACFC I am glad to see that banter is not what I expected so far. Which means your either waiting for it to start or have respect for the Centennial after last years match-ups. It is nice to see that the fans will be getting together for some tailgate this Sat. I hope to make it to meet some of you there. If you see an old limper with a golf club cane.. Just say HI old.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2008, 09:26:36 PM
old ends

  Most of the barbs thrown here are harmless. Other than a few Wesley and Salisbury fans and NNAsid there aren't many regulars here. Most of the time the bad stuff comes from fly by posters trying to rile us up.  There may still be one or two who will stir the pot but I think we keep em in line pretty good here. And we always look forward to meeting new friends from around the country. I am probably the longest tenured poster(since the boards inception) other than nnasid and I can't tell you the number of friends and a few foes that I have made through here ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 19, 2008, 07:57:52 AM
Yeah - most of the time the more vocal ones are just pop-in posters who want to get someone riled up. 
This is a pretty calm group - until our school gets thrown under the bus. ;)
FYI - be on the lookout for the All-Conference team ... could be announced today...probably tomorrow.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on November 19, 2008, 02:50:50 PM
This is now five consecutive postseason appearances for Salisbury but unfortunately three of the last four have been ECAC Bowl games. It is always nice for the seniors and the team to play an extra game but its a little bitter sweet when you're aiming for something greater. Either way it's great that SU is getting recognition enough to be invited to play in the bowl games.

I don't know too much about Moravian other than the fact they had a solid year in the Centennial Conference and they upset Muhlenberg in the final week of the season. This will be the second CC team that SU has faced in a bowl game (the other being Franklin & Marshall in 2005). I think it always favors Salisbury when they get to face a new team that hasn't seen the option attack. Hopefully the Gulls will be able to run the ball in chunks and come away with another ECAC Championship.

Last year M'berg handled the option very well but the respect the Mules gave the SU ground game allowed Salisbury to throw for over 200 yards. The Sea Gulls got caught late in that game running the option into a blitz and the rest is history. Anyway, this post isn't about last year's Muhlenberg-Salisbury game. I am just trying to make a point that it's always interesting to see how a defense that doesn't normally face the option handles that style of offense.

Both of the ACFC vs. CC games should be good ones. Hopefully the ACFC comes out on top in both contests this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 19, 2008, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: XSUGull on November 19, 2008, 02:50:50 PM

Both of the ACFC vs. CC games should be good ones. Hopefully the ACFC comes out on top in both contests this weekend.


Both games are so close together that we should be able to tell who is winning the other game from the crowd noise, hehehehe.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 19, 2008, 09:17:04 PM

Wesleyworld,

You are good and I think we have the makings for a heck of a battle on Saturday the best team win.

There are  arguments to be made for both the Mules and the Wolverines but the stats that Old Ends

has posted on the Centenniel Board sugest this is the closest game around.....I hope that turns out to be the case..........throw out the computer simulations, the handicappers, and the soothsayers...let's get it on....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 19, 2008, 10:19:12 PM
Quote from: muledaddy on November 19, 2008, 09:17:04 PM

Wesleyworld,

You are good and I think we have the makings for a heck of a battle on Saturday the best team win.

There are  arguments to be made for both the Mules and the Wolverines but the stats that Old Ends

has posted on the Centenniel Board sugest this is the closest game around.....I hope that turns out to be the case..........throw out the computer simulations, the handicappers, and the soothsayers...let's get it on....

I'd agree with you on the stats, except for one really important fact.  Wesley lead more than a few games by 40+ points at the half, and completely backed off with reserves in the second half.  You can't go by those figures, sorry.   That said, it will be a good game nonetheless.  I know the Mules will surely show with their game faces on.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 20, 2008, 03:51:11 PM
Teamski:

You are correct that the stats do not show when the next best group of players enter the game. The only thing I'll say is the Wesley coaches have a lot of players with game time to bring into the game without missing a beat and makes them stronger for years to come. A very important factor to bring to any game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Oil Can on November 20, 2008, 04:09:09 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2008, 09:26:36 PM
And we always look forward to meeting new friends from around the country. I am probably the longest tenured poster(since the boards inception) other than nnasid and I can't tell you the number of friends and a few foes that I have made through here ;D

Pa_wesleyfan,

First time in 3 years we don't get to travel to Dover to see the Wolverines in the playoffs, but wanted to extend good wishes for the game and safe travels to those making the trip.  It should be one of the better first round games!

Oh, and I heard good things about your son through the grapevine!  Congratulations!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2008, 07:29:48 PM
well, 2 days until game time.  the excitement starts to build.  the wolverines were not given their due with a 7 seed, but that is the way it is.  a home game would have been great, but oh well.  the bottom line is is that the team has to play a mistake free game and they will win.  they should be and are one of the top teams in the nation and it is time for them to start showing it with a convincing win over the mules.  i have some concerns about the pass rush on D and whether the short passing game they have gone to this year will be successful against an aggresive defense like the mules.  the run defense will do its job and the rushing game will get its yards. 

looking forward to seeing as many of you as can make it to the game.  we will be getting there around 10 and hanging with the usual crew if we can get a spot since i am told not much in the way of parking lots to tailgate in.  if we cant get a spot we will be hanging with the enemy as muledaddy has graciously offered a spot to hang and discuss the finer points of the game while enjoying an adult beverage or 2.  this is what makes D3 so great, spending time with other parents and fans of your team along with those of the other team.  :D  see you saturday!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2008, 07:42:00 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 20, 2008, 07:29:48 PM
looking forward to seeing as many of you as can make it to the game.  we will be getting there around 10 and hanging with the usual crew if we can get a spot since i am told not much in the way of parking lots to tailgate in.  if we cant get a spot we will be hanging with the enemy as muledaddy has graciously offered a spot to hang and discuss the finer points of the game while enjoying an adult beverage or 2.  this is what makes D3 so great, spending time with other parents and fans of your team along with those of the other team.  :D  see you saturday!!

I sure hope you guys don't end up on the evening news...... ;)

I have successfully fit-tested Robinson's jersey over my coat, so that's good to go.  It pays to get a giant sized jersey like that.  Looking forward to seeing you all there.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 20, 2008, 08:29:21 PM
Quote from: Oil Can on November 20, 2008, 04:09:09 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2008, 09:26:36 PM
And we always look forward to meeting new friends from around the country. I am probably the longest tenured poster(since the boards inception) other than nnasid and I can't tell you the number of friends and a few foes that I have made through here ;D

Pa_wesleyfan,

First time in 3 years we don't get to travel to Dover to see the Wolverines in the playoffs, but wanted to extend good wishes for the game and safe travels to those making the trip.  It should be one of the better first round games!

Oh, and I heard good things about your son through the grapevine!  Congratulations!



Oil Can

How are you dude?? I haven't seen alot of you and  Llama this year... Man I thought you all might trek up to Muhlenberg ;). Long trip for you guys for sure...We could use a slow boil this weekend , it's going to be frigid. I do hope our paths  cross again someday. Not going to make it to the Stagg Bowl either way but hope the Wolverines make it there.
 
  Thanks ,I.E. the son. Was quite an honor for him and as usual made the family very, very proud. :D  What he accomplished after knee recontruction surgery in two sports was quite an acheivement. It was rather humbling to here him spoken of so highly of ;D

 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2008, 08:34:03 PM
teamski, i hope we do end up on the evening news as a testament to the greatness of D3 football comaraderie?  see you there, i will have the 13 jersey on.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 20, 2008, 08:53:22 PM
Glad I am wearing a ski mask !!!! I'll check WMFZ and the police  scanner when I get home ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 21, 2008, 05:56:39 PM
Interesting.  It looks like Wesley got their final licks on Iona, now that Iona shut down their football program.  That's always hard to see something like that happen....  :-[

That said..... Bring on them Mules!!!   >:(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2008, 07:33:16 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 21, 2008, 05:56:39 PM
Interesting.  It looks like Wesley got their final licks on Iona, now that Iona shut down their football program.  That's always hard to see something like that happen....  :-[

That said..... Bring on them Mules!!!   >:(

-Ski

One less potential opponent for the Wolverines, Sea Gulls and others.  :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2008, 10:50:26 PM
The NCAA has really tied the hands of those non scholorship DIAA football schools by not letting them compete at the DIII level. LaSalle probably could have drawn some decent players from the local schools if they were at the lower level.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2008, 11:22:00 PM
Wesleydad
I am flying solo tomorrow and I couldn't get my pre-admit tests and after sitting in this cold tonight at the District one final no way am I getting up at 4 am and sitting in a tree so I will be leaving for Allentown a little earlier. do you have a site picked out for tomorrow for pregame warm-up? ;)

  I am looking for a tough game  tommorrow. It's going be cold and and both D's are tough. Wesley did hold Salisbury( over 400 yrds/game) to less than 200yrds rushing. I haven't seen anyone light up the passing game against Wesley. Del Val had some success because Isgro bought himself time with his feet. Muhlenberg D has been playing real well but Mc Sweeney has shown he can make plays with his legs. Wesley hasn't had a quarterback with above average running ability since  Azzanesi. IMHO the stats which everyone wants to point to are not a true telling point here because Wesley has called off the dogs in  a couple of games . A lot of the Wesley players have been in the playoffs a couple of times and they seem hungry . ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2008, 07:22:49 AM
pawesley, not sure where we will be since muledaddy said that there arent many parking lots for tailgating.  we will find a place as we always do.  i have muledaddy's number so i am going to give him a call when i get there around 10.  we plan on getting together before the game.  i also talked to lano's dad and he plans on arriving a little earlier than that to see if he can get a spot.  we will find each other.  i will have the 13 jersey on and my hat as usual so you will find us.  see you there.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2008, 07:24:49 AM
We're heading out sometime here within the next hour or so ourselves. It will be interesting to see how my wife and kid make out in the weather.  Real-feel in Allentown is 12 degrees.  It should be a hot game, nonetheless!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 22, 2008, 07:27:45 AM
Good luck today to all the teams. Had snow here in Western Md Mountains so I am not heading out. With age comes caution. Have fun and dress warm
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2008, 07:29:14 AM
We had a smattering here in Dover, and it's still on the ground.  Not doubt the roads will be good, though.    Safe drive everybody.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 22, 2008, 11:17:35 AM
cant make the Wesley game, just too far away, so drive safe to those who are going. Go Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: XSUGull on November 22, 2008, 02:59:52 PM
I would say this turned out to be a pretty good day for the ACFC. A pair of wins over the CC. The Gulls had a nice comeback from being down 17-0 at halftime.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AJK on November 22, 2008, 04:25:30 PM
Wesley wins. Watched the game online. I would like to say thank you to the defense. They got it done in a big way, they get a game ball.
  The Offense had an ugly game at times, should have scored 40. Hope they where holding back for UMHB.  I would comment on the kicking game if they had one.
  Ill take an ugly win. Texas here we come.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on November 22, 2008, 06:00:21 PM
Congratulations Salisbury and Wesley!  The Gulls and Wolverines did the ACFC proud.  Good luck next weekend to Wesley as the Wolverines carry the ACFC banner into the next round.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 22, 2008, 06:32:50 PM
Congrats to both Wesley and Salisbury on their victories today and  for a happy ride to and from the Allentown-Bethlehem area. Good luck to Wesley throughout the playoffs
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2008, 06:44:30 PM
Man, that was a cold game!!  Congratulations to the Wolverines and Seagulls for getting the job done!  You both earn the cudos, that's for sure!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 22, 2008, 07:47:06 PM

Congratulations to the Wesley Wolverines on their win over the Mules. Wesley came to play and did so well.
The Mules were plagued by their own uncertainty,dropped balls in the key first half, and a loss of spirit

after the last second Hail Mary touchdown by Wesley before halftime.The Wesley defense played very

tough football.The Mule defense played well.The Mule offense, banged up the lastg few weeks, never got it going. Good luck too Wesly as they proceed. They are a class team with very classy fans, including Teamski and Wesleydad, whom I had the pleasure of meeting.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2008, 07:57:54 PM
cold, cold, COLD!!!!  that is what it was.  the game was very competitive with both defenses controlling the day.  the dropped pass in the end zone early in the 2nd quarter by the mules really hurt them.  their offense did not do very much, the biggest play was probably the fake punt that set up the drop.  wesley did not fair much better.  the hail mary pass before the half as all of them are was lucky.  wesley failed to put the game out of reach in the 3rd quarter when they had the ball inside the 40 twice and did not score.  the wind was tough as 3 field goals were missed, 2 by wesley.  jon lanuette continues to show why he is one of the best TE's in the country with another athletic catch of an underthrown pass for the wolverines 3rd TD.  good win in tough conditions.

now on to texas and a very familiar foe, the seniors will have played umhb 4 times, holding a 2 - 1 edge to this point.  the weather will likely be warmer which should help.  got to get back to trying to find an affordable way to get to the game, the prices are jacked up due to thanksgiving >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 22, 2008, 08:30:05 PM
wesletdad

maybe teamski can take a test flight (in one of those big birds we see taking off from doverall the time) to texas and back next weekend.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 22, 2008, 09:24:36 PM
 Unfortunately my early arrival plans didn't pan out today in Allentown so I didn't get to meet  Muledaddy.  Good luck to your son.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2008, 09:53:46 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 22, 2008, 08:30:05 PM
wesletdad

maybe teamski can take a test flight (in one of those big birds we see taking off from doverall the time) to texas and back next weekend.  ;)

I'll check to see what it will cost to charter.   :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2008, 11:59:20 AM
I hope wdel has the Beavers run in the hi-lights this week.. It was a memorable fun thing to watch from a fans perspective,probably not so much from a coaches view. He took the ball to the left sideline for about seven yards, was boxed in on  and reversed course, went fifteen to twenty yards backwords avoiding three or four would be tacklers, went completely to the other sideline and was forced out of bounds after about a 12 yard gain. The play was brought back for a holding call that happened at the end of the run..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2008, 12:20:54 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2008, 11:59:20 AM
I hope wdel has the Beavers run in the hi-lights this week.. It was a memorable fun thing to watch from a fans perspective,probably not so much from a coaches view. He took the ball to the left sideline for about seven yards, was boxed in on  and reversed course, went fifteen to twenty yards backwords avoiding three or four would be tacklers, went completely to the other sideline and was forced out of bounds after about a 12 yard gain. The play was brought back for a holding call that happened at the end of the run..


That was pretty funny stuff.  When he turned back, I thought, "Oh boy, this one is gonna be bad."  But sure enough, he sprinted past the defensive linemen and scooted around the other end of the field.  He was completely spent after that play, too, having ran for at least 50+ yards just to have it called back.  Classic Beavers.  ;)

I think he was frustrated all day due to the cold and his lack of involvment in the game.  There was one play that I knew he would be open and I pointed it out to the guy next to me.  Larry was tapping his helmet furiously and was indeed open, but McSweeny got occupied with some Mules in his face and didn't see him.  Beavers was ticked when he went to the sidelines.  I think he heard me yell to him that he had some Texas boys the next week to do a number on.

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 23, 2008, 12:58:40 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2008, 11:59:20 AM
I hope wdel has the Beavers run in the hi-lights this week.. It was a memorable fun thing to watch from a fans perspective,probably not so much from a coaches view. He took the ball to the left sideline for about seven yards, was boxed in on  and reversed course, went fifteen to twenty yards backwords avoiding three or four would be tacklers, went completely to the other sideline and was forced out of bounds after about a 12 yard gain. The play was brought back for a holding call that happened at the end of the run..


That was a pretty exciting run, I was watching on the internet. When he went back the other way i thought 'what is this guy thinking.' Then after the first defender missed him i thought 'well hes Larry Beavers.' Thats what makes him so fun to watch. He makes things happen. Sometimes out of nothing. Some of his kick returns, he will drop the football, then everyones saying 'Uh Oh!' Then he picks the ball up and hes gone. Hes a playmaker. Maybe someday in the NFL?? But for now hes the playmaker for the Wesley College Wolverines and hes gonna makes some plays Thanksgiving weekend, I can feel it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2008, 01:35:45 PM
Larry gets frustrated but not much you can do when he is getting double and even triple coverage... But that leaves Lanouette open and opens up lanes for McSweeney to scamble to.


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 23, 2008, 01:39:08 PM
I think Beavers needs to be incorporated into the game more vs UMHB. Hes vital even when hes not getting the ball as pa_wesleyfan pointed out. But with the ball hes almost like an unstoppable machine.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2008, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: the waterboy on November 23, 2008, 01:39:08 PM
I think Beavers needs to be incorporated into the game more vs UMHB. Hes vital even when hes not getting the ball as pa_wesleyfan pointed out. But with the ball hes almost like an unstoppable machine.

I'm sure he will.  I think the Wesley OC wanted to protect the ball and they didn't do a lot of long passes with a hard ball.  It doesn't help having McSweeny scrambling around dodging the Mules defense.

That said, McSweeny did a beautiful job finding the gaps and explioting them when it looked like another 3 and out.  That sort of smarts is irreplacable on the field.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 23, 2008, 02:04:27 PM
I agree, McSweeny shows impressive vision and decision making for a young QB. The Wesley offense will hopefully be ready to roll against UMHB. Hopefully, OC Chip Knapp will have some tricks up his sleeve.  :D Ill always remember that play against UMHB that they ran in Chris Warricks last year. Warrick threw a little pass behind the line of scrimmage to Jason Schatz and Schatz hit Michael Clarke for a long TD. I will always remember that play.

Anyone going down to Texas for the game next week? Go Wolverines!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2008, 02:24:51 PM
Quote from: the waterboy on November 23, 2008, 02:04:27 PM
I agree, McSweeny shows impressive vision and decision making for a young QB. The Wesley offense will hopefully be ready to roll against UMHB. Hopefully, OC Chip Knapp will have some tricks up his sleeve.  :D Ill always remember that play against UMHB that they ran in Chris Warricks last year. Warrick threw a little pass behind the line of scrimmage to Jason Schatz and Schatz hit Michael Clarke for a long TD. I will always remember that play.

Anyone going down to Texas for the game next week? Go Wolverines!

Time's a flyin' my friend.  That was two years ago already.....  :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 23, 2008, 06:26:31 PM
Stats for Wesley and MHBU
Wesley( it seems that NCAA has grouped this conference with Independents, some of the conference leaders are
            not in the conference.)
Category              Natl rk     Actual       Natl Ldr           Actual   onf rk     Confer Ldr               Actual
Rushing Offense    25         226.44      Salisbury       397.00      4           Salisbury                397.00
Passing Offense    81         206.22       Hartwick       401.89      1            Wesley                  206.22
Total Offense        20          432.67   Mount Union     541.80      2          Salisbury                460.70
Scoring Offense    14            39.11   Monmouth (Ill.)   49.10      2          Salisbury                  42.70
Rushing Defense  19            82.67    Mount Union      43.00      1            Wesley                   82.67
Pass Efficiency
Defense                47          104.49    Cal Lutheran      72.87      2       Neb. Wesleyan           89.72
Total Defense       10          250.11    Mount Union     158.90      1            Wesley                250.11
Scoring Defense   12            13.22    Mount Union         6.00      2       Neb. Wesleyan           11.20
Turnover Margin 117                .00        Aurora              2.30       5      Neb. Wesleyan                .60
Pass Defense       52          167.44    Salve Regina     110.89      4            Becker                 138.00
Passing Efficiency  3           172.85    Mount Union      207.56     1            Wesley                 172.85
Sacks                 T-110           1.89    Mount Union           3.90     5          Salisbury                    3.00

UHBM


Rushing Offense   12          264.80      Salisbury          397.00      1     Mary Hardin-Baylor       264.80
Passing Offense  178          146.90      Hartwick          401.89      7      Hardin-Simmons           287.30
Total Offense        34           411.70    Mount Union     541.80      3       Hardin-Simmons           480.00
Scoring Offense    16             38.40   Monmouth (Ill.)    49.10       2      Hardin-Simmons             39.40
Rushing Defense  14             80.30     Mount Union       43.00      1      Mary Hardin-Baylor         80.30
Pass Efficiency      31             98.65     Cal Lutheran       72.87      2        Louisiana Col.              93.00
Defense
Total Defense         7           243.80     Mount Union      158.90      1       Mary Hardin-Baylor      243.80
Scoring Defense     4             12.20      Mount Union         6.00      1       Mary Hardin-Baylor        12.20
Turnover Margin  110                .10         Aurora               2.30       3         Hardin-Simmons          1.70
Pass Defense        45          163.50     Salve Regina      110.89     3          Hardin-Simmons       156.40
Passing Efficiency 14           155.98     Mount Union       207.56    2          Hardin-Simmons        174.08


Again I think the numbers are close and this could be a story of who turns it over or has to many yellow flags
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 23, 2008, 06:41:15 PM
IF any of you head to Belton TX there is a golf course, Leon Valley. Nice little no trouble flat ball runs forever with some trees around  golf course. Played it back in the 80's while working in Austin and Ft Hood for a few weeks. Nice area
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 23, 2008, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: old ends on November 23, 2008, 06:41:15 PM
IF any of you head to Belton TX there is a golf course, Leon Valley. Nice little no trouble flat ball runs forever with some trees around  golf course. Played it back in the 80's while working in Austin and Ft Hood for a few weeks. Nice area
And as you remember, you have an 80% chance of being able to play golf on the day after Thanksgiving in central Texas.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2008, 06:49:56 PM
Thanks for the stats.  It sure looks like MHB's running game will be hitting Wesley's run defense.  This is going to be one interesting game!! If Wesley can contain the run as they have been all season, then they may have a good chance for another W.  

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 23, 2008, 07:08:08 PM
Those are interesting stats. I think that if Wesley plays like they know how, they have the ability to be the best team in the league. The game against UMHB will be close. Whoever wins the turnover battle will win the game. I just want to see the Wolverines one more time this year, and the only time that I believe I can do that is at Virginia, and yes in the Stagg Bowl. Its possible if we play like we know how to.

Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 23, 2008, 07:55:44 PM
since some of you have finally noticed or decided to mention it about the changes in the offense i guess it is time for me to say my piece.  i have not said much about this all year since most of you know that jason is my son and we have been as supportive as possible to the team.  jason certainly was not a scrambler and did not have the best completion % last year, but it is hard to argue that last years offense was more explosive than this years.  last years schedule was certainly tougher than this years was also.

last year beavers got way more touches, both pass receptions and runs.  they used to use a packeage where he played Qb and schatz went to wide receiver.  that is no longer used, 30+ runs last year to only 13 this year.  he had 41 receptions last year only 28 so far, clarke had 51 so you would figure he should have more. 

it is obvious to me that there has been a change in offensive philosophy with shorter passes and calling plays for mcsweeney to run the ball.  yesterday was a prime example, as o coordinator used mcsweeney to run out the clock.

if the goal is to get beavers the ball as all of you seem to think it should be then i guess you have to start questioning the play calling.  if beavers is being taken out of the game, then lanuette should have more catches, his stats are also down this year.  every time that a Qb drops back to pass and scrambles instead, there is less chance of a big play occuring. 

the other receivers totals are also down.  since it seems that the other receivers have trouble getting open maybe they should start using the player they have standing on the sideline watching who happened to lead the acfc in receptions 2 years ago.  it is hard for me to believe that jason has gone from playing a leading role with these teams as a receiver and Qb to not being used at all.  he would certainly give defenses a matchup problem as the 3rd receiver as he did 2 years ago.

if the decision was made to change the direction of the team that is the coaches perrogative, it just would to seem to sense to use all the tools you have available.  nothing against mcsweeney, but who would you rather have running the ball 5 times a game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 23, 2008, 08:18:52 PM
wesleydad, I do not think the play calling is to blame here, yesterday the Mules loaded one side with the blitz and the o-line was terrible on the run block. So, I think the OC was just trying to pickup some yardage by having McSweeny to boot leg it around. As for McSweeny running the clock out on his own, I think was that the coaching staff feels most confident with the ball in McSweeny's hands. Jackson fumbled twice in that game. I did not see much of Pennewell either. One more thing is that the pressure was in McSweeny's face the whole day yesterday so he had to scramble around a little. I also think we lost some skill on the o-line compared to last year.

As far as getting Schatz into the gameplan, I say, lets do it. Hes another weapon that we can use on the offensive side of the ball. I always remember the play that they ran two years ago against UMHB when Chris Warrick threw that short pass to Schatz behind the line of scrimmage, then Schatz hit Clarke for a long TD. Schatz can be utilized for some of those types of plays, and just bring more options to the table for WC.

Also, I like how you have supported the team even though things didnt go your sons way.

Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2008, 08:31:34 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 23, 2008, 07:55:44 PM

the other receivers totals are also down.  since it seems that the other receivers have trouble getting open maybe they should start using the player they have standing on the sideline watching who happened to lead the acfc in receptions 2 years ago.  it is hard for me to believe that jason has gone from playing a leading role with these teams as a receiver and Qb to not being used at all.  he would certainly give defenses a matchup problem as the 3rd receiver as he did 2 years ago.


I completely concur with you on this point.  Jason did a sweet job in the WR position with Warrick at QB.  I don't understand why he hasn't seen duty in one one position where he trully excells.  I even mentioned this to my wife during the game.  I hope he gets the time he is due in Texas.  Wesley really needs to use his physical presence on the line.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2008, 10:43:28 PM
Congrats to Salisbury. Way to finish another great season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AJK on November 24, 2008, 09:46:45 AM
   Because of the rule change when a player goes out of bounds the clock still runs. Therfore all teams have about an average of 10 less plays a game (give or take a couple). So everyone #'s will be a little lower from past years.
   As far as the play calling goes I think hard to question the Wesley coach's with their track record.(even though we all do it) Second down and 1 yard to go from the 4 yard line and I'm talking to my computer screen to quarterback sneak twice. Then on 4th down i'm saying go for it and if that does'nt work we wonder why we just didnt take the 3 pts when we had it. Bottom line is Drass and Knapp have forgotten more football then most of us will ever know. With that being said I would like to see them open it up the offense a little more. I know its there.
 
Does anyone know if Pennewell will be 100% for UMHB?

 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2008, 10:07:23 AM
Quote from: AJK on November 24, 2008, 09:46:45 AM
     
Does anyone know if Pennewell will be 100% for UMHB?

 

I'm not sure he will.  He went in for one play and went back out.  I asked one of the team members about it after the game and all he could say is "hopefully."  Even if he isn't 100%, Jackson and the others are doing a pretty good job running the ball.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ATownStomp on November 24, 2008, 10:37:51 AM
I played against Wesley last year and saw the game this year. Just from watching that game it llked to me as if the Wesley O had lost some of that explosiveness. Not to take away from the Mule D this year (they had a great game) but last year the Wesley O just looked a little more potent. Although they may not have wanted to chance big plays with their defense playing lights out. Which brings me to my next point. I thought the Wesley D was going to be worse than last year since they didn't have Robinson. Boy was I wrong. Your middle lineback is one hell of a player and that was probably the most physical secondary I have seen in D3. Good luck in Texas, represent the North sub brack down south!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AJK on November 24, 2008, 11:03:06 AM
 Ive seen Wesley play every game this year and that was the worst they looked all year except for the
DelVal game. Like you said the Mules D played a good game. If Wesley plays that way in Texas they will be at home the next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2008, 11:25:32 AM
Quote from: AJK on November 24, 2008, 11:03:06 AM
Ive seen Wesley play every game this year and that was the worst they looked all year except for the
DelVal game. Like you said the Mules D played a good game. If Wesley plays that way in Texas they will be at home the next week.

Ahh, I wouldn't go that far.  Sure, the offense was stiffled a bit in the first half.  No doubt the cold contributed to that.  But you can't compare the two games like that.  The Del Vall game had a lot of mistakes (2 key fumbles) and a ton (16) of penalties.  McSweeny found his legs and did a great job keeping the game moving when needed.  I think if anything, it showed that Wesley can deal with adversity on the road.  Sean Matthews kicked some royal caboose and the defense made the difference, something that will come to good use against MHB.  If you look at other cold weather games, namely against UWW in the past, you will find that the offense failed miserably from the frigid temps.  At least here, the Wolverines started to work around what didn't work instead of simply running the ball into the defense, time in and time out.  Shane found the holes he needed to move the ball in the second half.  I feel good about the team right now.  With the warmer temps at Belton, I think Wesley's offense will thaw out and turn some big plays.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AJK on November 24, 2008, 11:38:21 AM
 I agree It wasnt as bad as DelVal. But not what we're used to. Worst offensive game since DelVal.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2008, 11:47:00 AM
Quote from: AJK on November 24, 2008, 11:38:21 AM
I agree It wasnt as bad as DelVal. But not what we're used to. Worst offensive game since DelVal.

You can't always expect Wesley to be putting up 40+ points in the playoffs.  Remember, last year, Wesley only put up 13 points against Salisbury!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 24, 2008, 12:31:39 PM
20 last year, 13 the year before.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2008, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: Conrad on November 24, 2008, 12:31:39 PM
20 last year, 13 the year before.

Doh!!! :-X

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2008, 06:13:20 PM
Quote from: ATownStomp on November 24, 2008, 10:37:51 AM
I played against Wesley last year and saw the game this year. Just from watching that game it llked to me as if the Wesley O had lost some of that explosiveness. Not to take away from the Mule D this year (they had a great game) but last year the Wesley O just looked a little more potent. Although they may not have wanted to chance big plays with their defense playing lights out. Which brings me to my next point. I thought the Wesley D was going to be worse than last year since they didn't have Robinson. Boy was I wrong. Your middle lineback is one hell of a player and that was probably the most physical secondary I have seen in D3. Good luck in Texas, represent the North sub brack down south!!!

I have been attending Wesley games for 14 yrs and I have had the opportunity to see some great defensive players and have seen my share of bone grinding hits but I can't remember ever seeing this amount as a team. When you can actually here the crowd as a whole go oooooo you know it's a hit... With that being said  Santagato took some shots and kept going back to the huddle
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 24, 2008, 06:37:58 PM
I am glad your post is active.. Muledaddy packed up already.
Good luck to Wesley and have a Great Thanksgiving. +K to all
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 24, 2008, 06:46:41 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 24, 2008, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: Conrad on November 24, 2008, 12:31:39 PM
20 last year, 13 the year before.

Doh!!! :-X

-Ski

36 this year! (Sorry Salisbury guys, it's a rivalry game and I have to gloat a little :D)

Great job by the Gulls this year. Great comeback against the hounds. Too bad we both couldn't have gotten by Del Val, you'd have been in and we'd have a home game this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2008, 06:49:43 PM
Quote from: Conrad on November 24, 2008, 06:46:41 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 24, 2008, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: Conrad on November 24, 2008, 12:31:39 PM
20 last year, 13 the year before.

Doh!!! :-X

-Ski

36 this year! (Sorry Salisbury guys, it's a rivalry game and I have to gloat a little :D)

Great job by the Gulls this year. Great comeback against the hounds. Too bad we both couldn't have gotten by Del Val, you'd have been in and we'd have a home game this week.

Well, I'll be thinking of you while chewing on leftover turkey.... ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 24, 2008, 07:02:03 PM
As far as the Wesley offense goes, I believe they just played it a little closer to the vest this week with a lead and windy conditions.

Why do anything flashy when your defense is playing that well and you are on the road?

No turnovers and a solid defense will win you a lot of football games in those conditions.

Beavers was a big part in their first scoring drive. He drew a pass interference call on the first play to get them into Mule territory and had a 22-yard reverse on the next play before Jackson finished it off.

Granted, they will have to play much better this week to win. They missed a couple of field goals and an extra point. A 17-yard sack moved them out of scoring position on one drive and a couple of holding penalties killed two others.


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2008, 07:12:48 PM
old ends

I don't think we will be hearing from muledaddy .. It's fine to beat the drum for your team and to be Rah,Rah but most of the time he was boarderline obnoxious..
Sometimes he would retract but he did hit a lot of nerves and his karma showed it..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 24, 2008, 07:21:51 PM
I tried not to take him to seriously. He went overboard quite a bit but it was entertaining.  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2008, 07:30:14 PM
 Oh I didn't take him to seriously either. There have been many ahead of him and will be many after him that take it to extreems. If you really want to be entertained go read some of those E8 posts. ;D The love there is great ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 24, 2008, 07:32:14 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2008, 07:12:48 PM
old ends

I don't think we will be hearing from muledaddy .. It's fine to beat the drum for your team and to be Rah,Rah but most of the time he was boarderline obnoxious..
Sometimes he would retract but he did hit a lot of nerves and his karma showed it..

But you know, at the end he manned up and congratulated Wesley.  I even gave him a +k after that.

I think that all of us who have followed D3 a long time can relate to the "we're undefeated, so we're going to kick everyone's keester" syndrome from the first time our team was in a similar position.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 24, 2008, 07:35:54 PM
Ron-

Are you making the trip to Belton Saturday?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 24, 2008, 07:43:13 PM
  Congrats Gulls!....another great season has come to an end. Going out with a big comeback win in the ECAC game vs. Moravian ....they should finish the season ranked as one of the top 25 teams on the D3 poll. Wesley is just what I expected as they rolled Muhlenburg, I have said all along I think they win this region....playing my Gulls every year helps Wesley immensely when they play a UMHB, because a big part of what makes option teams successful is their opponents rarely see it and have trouble stopping it for a entire game. Wesley sees one of the best option teams in the country every year, so UMHB is not a huge adjustment. Wesley in a close one on the road...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2008, 07:44:23 PM
Ron

I agree and he also is dealing with his sons injury and surgery. The others that met him last weekend did say he was an O.K. dude. And anyone who follows his team faithfully can't be all bad  ;)

Conrad

Do you and Len get the whole hour for pregame this week?  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 24, 2008, 10:07:04 PM
The first half hour is the WDEL Saturday Football center, where Len reviews the high school football scores and there's usually a Delaware segment with KC Keeler. No UD football this week they had a tough year, the transfer QB didn't work out for them this year for the Hens as in past years (Joe Flacco and Andy Hall.)

Both high school title games feature teams from downstate for the first time ever (I think!) Most of the population in Delaware is upstate near Wilmington so folks here in lower DE are excited. Caesar Rodney v. Sussex Central in the D-I game and Milford v. Laurel in the D-II game.

The second half hour is the Wesley pregame show.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on November 24, 2008, 10:22:52 PM
Wesleydad,

I sent you a pm.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 25, 2008, 09:19:00 PM
Quote from: Conrad on November 24, 2008, 07:02:03 PM
As far as the Wesley offense goes, I believe they just played it a little closer to the vest this week with a lead and windy conditions.


You bring up a good point. Cold weather demands ball control, and that is what Wesley did.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 26, 2008, 03:33:02 PM

Mates,

Happy thansgiving and Best of Luck to the Wolverines in Texas.......and later...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 26, 2008, 05:29:52 PM
Quote from: muledaddy on November 26, 2008, 03:33:02 PM

Mates,

Happy thansgiving and Best of Luck to the Wolverines in Texas.......and later...

Same to you!  Have a safe one this year!  :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 26, 2008, 06:20:43 PM
Happy Thanksgining to all!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 26, 2008, 07:17:56 PM
flying out early in the morning to austin, texas.  everyone have a nice thanksgiving and i will try to report back to all of you who can not make the trip.  i have a strong suspicion that wesley is going to win this game.  both teams seem to be about the same, but i think wesley will be able to move the ball better passing.  a close game, wesley wins.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2008, 07:47:01 PM
 Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 27, 2008, 09:52:52 PM
time to play jeopardy, what do phila, phila, raliegh, tampa bay, and austin have in common?


they are the cities i ended up in today on my trip to temple, texas for this weekends game.  we spent 2 hours sitting on the plane in philly waiting for clearance from the faa to fly out due to a dent in a door.  the delay would cause us to miss our connecting flight in nashville so we had to get off the plane, get put on another flight which took us to raliegh and tampa on the way to austin.  instead of arriving at 1200 we got to austin at 5, 13 hours from when we got on the first plane in philly. >:(

no matter, we are here and looking forward to saturday.  the team arrived around 730 and the boys will have a little edge to them for practice tomorrow since nothing is open for them to get any food :D

happy thanksgiving to all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 27, 2008, 10:00:54 PM
weselydad

Just keep em away from  the soda pop..... cheer for all of us back here listening on the radio . If you listen hard enough you may here us  :o

Go WESLEY  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 27, 2008, 10:22:31 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 27, 2008, 10:00:54 PM
weselydad

Just keep em away from  the soda pop..... cheer for all of us back here listening on the radio . If you listen hard enough you may here us  :o

Go WESLEY  ;D

Amen!!  Wow, what people have to go through to see a game, hehehehehe.....  Well, I hope you yell your guts out for us.  I will be listening!  I'm happy the team got there to get a day of practice in.  I have a feeling that they will be stretching those scoring legs out during the game.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 27, 2008, 10:50:58 PM
Whataburger was open.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 28, 2008, 07:58:21 AM
conrad, so was IHOP.  nothing better than enjoying a nice thanksgiving meal with other travelers looking for anything to eat. ::)

nice article on the rivalry.

will you be at the team reception today?  we are staying at the super8, right off of I35, about 3 miles from mary hardin baylor.  i am not sure about places to hit after it around that hotel, but there is a bj's brewhouse right up the road from out hotel that we may hit later.

teamski and pawesley, i may do a little screaming, but not sure if it will make the pressbox.  hopefully, conrad will keep you posted on the enthusiasm of the wesley faithfull who have made the trip.  as far as i know lano's dad and brother are here, so we can probably make a little noise. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 28, 2008, 08:36:56 AM
latest weather update, partly sunny with temps in the 60's for gametime.  should be good football weather, not too hot or cold.

i will report back later tonight with the mood of the team after the president's reception.

i have been surprized by the relative lack of bantor for this game from the umhb folks this year.  last year they were very vocal in their opinions about the game.  i mentioned it on their site and got a "cautious optimism" explanation.  it seems that they are not as confident in their team or maybe they have finally grown to respect wesley as a program equal to theirs as far as national recognition goes.  maybe things will heat up today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on November 28, 2008, 09:36:13 AM

Go Wolverines,

Give'm he**.Wesleydad and family, enjoy each moment.D3 is the ultimate sports experience.
I liked the article and would love to see an article with a reprto on Beavers and Jackson running wild,
together with some good qb hustling. I am confident theat the defense is ready to shut the door on UMHB.
This is your time...if the boys want it bad enough..they will go and take it...nobody gives you anything
on a football field...GO WOLVERINES!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 28, 2008, 10:27:47 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 28, 2008, 07:58:21 AM
conrad, so was IHOP.  nothing better than enjoying a nice thanksgiving meal with other travelers looking for anything to eat. ::)

nice article on the rivalry.

will you be at the team reception today?  we are staying at the super8, right off of I35, about 3 miles from mary hardin baylor.  i am not sure about places to hit after it around that hotel, but there is a bj's brewhouse right up the road from out hotel that we may hit later.


Thanks about the article.

I will be at the reception, saw the 'brewhouse,' got excited but then it was closed. :(  Maybe tonight.

Team flight went smoothly. The team mood last night was hungry, literally.  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 28, 2008, 11:13:53 PM
Conrad,

Looking forward to your broadcast with baited anticipation!!   I'm getting stoked.  :D

Go Wolverines!!!!!  8)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 28, 2008, 11:36:07 PM
well, here we are 1030 and ready to go.  i mean at night, ready to go to bed.  the team is ready, the reception was nice, props to the president for having it and being here for the game, not many other presidents would do that.  i think wesley is better and will win the game unless they turn the ball over.  there is something missing from this umhb team compared to the last couple and i think it will show tomorrow.

mule, thanks for the props, we will give em whatever we can while we are here.

teamski, the broadcast will be fun as you listen to wesley score enough to win.

we plan on being at the field around 10 to show the umhb folk how to travel and still have a little tailgate, they didnt do much last year even after we invited them to stop by,  we dont need no stinkin invite. ;D

enjoy the win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 28, 2008, 11:39:57 PM
Enjoy the game Wesleydad.   Do us proud on the tailgating front!  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 29, 2008, 08:18:01 AM
GAME DAY      GAME DAY       GAME DAY

IT IS TIME FOR THE GAME TO BEGIN, WELL IN ABOUT 4 HOURS.  THE WEATHER IS GOING TO BE GOOD, LOW 60'S, SUNNY WITH A LIGHT WIND.

I THINK WESLEY WINS THIS GAME.  UMHB RELIED ON A HALF BACK OPTION PASS AND A KICKOFF RETURN FOR 2 OF THEIR TOUCHDOWNS LAST WEEK.  THOSE THINGS DONT GENERALLY HAPPEN WEEK TO WEEK SO I DONT THINK THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO MUCH AGAINST THE DEFENSE.  IF THERE WAS ONE THING OBVIOUS LAST WEEK, THE OFFENSE PLAYED IT CLOSE TO THE VEST, WEATHER OR DECISION, EITHER WAY NOT MUCH AGAINST THE MULES.  IF THAT IS THE SAME GAME PLAN THEN THIS WILL BE A QUICK LOW SCORING GAME.  THE OFFENSE HAS TO BE OPENED UP WITH SOME MEDIUM PASSES OR UMHB WILL CROWD THE LINE AND NOT GIVE UP ANYTHING SHORT AND WESLEY WILL STRUGGLE TO MOVE THE BALL.  I DONT THINK UMHB WILL VARY THEIR KICKING GAME EXCEPT TO KICK IT AWAY FROM BEAVERS, NO SQUIBS OR POOCHES.  THEY ARE GOOD AGAINST RETURNS.  NO TURNOVERS AND WESLEY WINS IN A LOWER SCORING GAME THAN MOST THINK, 21 - 13.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 29, 2008, 10:01:47 AM
time to go, off to walmart to get some grub and then to the field.  enjoy listening to the game and about 400 et we will know the fate of the boys.  out of here.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bman on November 29, 2008, 10:08:52 AM
Good luck to Wesley today...

Since my neice is a student, I have "reluctantly" become a Wesley fan (although not against WU  ::)....)

Bring it home....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 29, 2008, 12:03:26 PM
Well, it's down to an hour to go!  No doubt, Wesleydad is mixing it with the UMBH folks, for either good or bad, hehehehehe.....

I don't predict scores very well, so I won't even try.  I think Wesleydad has it right on for the score, though.  If Wesley keeps the ball off the ground, I think they will be dominant.   Keep the pressure on the QB, crowd the option and expect some serious possesion time!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 29, 2008, 12:52:05 PM
Crazy Uncle Frank is in the house!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2008, 12:58:18 PM
he said he would be there...i am only going to here the first half :-X ???
i'll have to get the live stats going so i can go back and rehash it 


Go Wesley   :o  :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 29, 2008, 03:33:50 PM
Well Wesley played terribly today. I feel bad for the seniors. But thats what happens when you turn the ball over 5 times. UMHB just played better than us today. Our O-Line wasnt playin as well as it should have and we cannot hold onto the football. That game was just terrible.

wesleydad, best of luck to your son, he was awesome and stepped up when the team needed him to, even though this year didnt quite turn out his way.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 29, 2008, 04:06:50 PM
Well, it ended today for the Wesley Wolverines.  They had another great season and nobody can take that away from them.  Ultimately, turnovers did them in and took them right out of the second round.  Nonetheless, they did good and I will miss all of the seniors that made the Wolverines what they are.  They include Larry Beavers (NCAA record return holder) , Sean Matthews, Jon Lanuette, Pat Bell, Chet Turner, Steve Scanlon, Jeramiah Santiago and the others. Good luck in all of your futures!!!  You guys rock!!
It was great meeting the parents of Jason Schatz, Collin Blugis and the others this year.  Good luck to Wesleydad and I hope you stick around. 

I count myself lucky to live just two blocks away from one of the best DIII football teams in the nation.  To experience the teamwork, skill and athleticism of a team lead by Mike Drass is something that you just don't see every day.

I will be back next year, hopefully as a full-time student after retiring from the USAF.   I hope to get involved somewhere on the team.....and no, I will not try out, hehehehe......

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on November 29, 2008, 04:29:36 PM
Congrats to Wesley on a fine season, everything was working today for the Cru but you guys never quit. Hope everyone has a safe trip back that made it to Belton, believe I know how long of a trip it is home after losing to yall because I had to drive back after the loss to you guys two years ago.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2008, 06:09:16 PM

This game started eerily like the two UWW games.. Wesley giving up the ball early and often and then got man handled on the line. Congrats to UMHB they took it to Wesley today. Beat W@J 

 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 29, 2008, 06:17:16 PM
no need to try to explain the game.  the issues that i have talked about all year all showed up today.  congrats to the seniors who have raised the program to another level, hopefully the others can keep it there.  i was glad that jason got to finish his career playing and not standing on the sideline.

pawesley and teamski, i will see you guys around as i will have nothing to do on saturdays so i will certainly take in a game or 2.

waterboy, thanks for the compliment.

teamski, yes we did mix it up with roocru and toby taff, 2 great guys.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on November 29, 2008, 07:23:52 PM
Congratulations to Wesley on a season many D3 fans and players would give their right arms for.  I was impressed with your tenacity today and you guys were passing around a few licks of your own during the game.   ;)

I was at the establishment where the Wesley team ate after the game.  They were very classy in their defeat.  I also want to give props to Coach Drass who took time to break away from his meal and come over and visit with me and a couple of other UMHB fans at the restaurant.  He definitely showed his class as well by visiting with us.  Good luck in his Coach of the Year quest.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on November 29, 2008, 07:30:47 PM
Ditto what Roocru said.  The Wesley team showed great class and fight today.  Some of those hits on defense were hard enough that we heard them at the top of the stands.  Congrats on a great year and maybe game 5 can be next year.
As for Coach Drass coming over, I didn't even realize it was him.  he was very friendly and warm.  I was impressed that someone came over from the coaching staff to say hi, I'm amazed it was the head coach.  what a great guy. 

Also, I enjoyed meeting wesleydad and family.  it's always nice to put face to screen name.  I hope he enjoys BJ's tonight and I wish all safe travels home.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 29, 2008, 09:03:04 PM
to all the umhb guys that i met today.  coach drass is the reason jason went to wesley.  he has always been that way with us.

toby, we did enjoy bj's again and had a umhb alum come up and talk to us.  texas people show a lot of class win or loss.  again good luck.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on November 29, 2008, 09:19:37 PM
Another season to reflect on and another season to get ready for. I said it earlier on a post .. that turnovers will control the game. I did not think that it would be Wesley.

To the seniors good luck with your studies and future for the team work you have developed will help in the future. Congrats for your season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 30, 2008, 01:02:10 PM
I know this is getting way ahead of the game, but what do you guys think about the future of the ACFC?  I can't see Coach Drass having to go through the pains once again of trying to schedule games as he did this year.  I really feel a migration to NJAC, the MAC or some other conference is in order. The low seeding in the playoffs and the lack of seaon competition really undermined Wesley's competitiveness, IMHO.   The traveling was insane this year.

It is a real catalyst for change.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 30, 2008, 01:59:21 PM
home at last.  no problems on the flight home, arrived early as a matter of fact.  again i would like to thank the folks in texas for making it an enjoyable experience or as much as it could be with the outcome of the game.

teamski, i am not sure what they can do about games and leagues.  i dont think it is that easy to switch because it deals with more than just football i think.  i dont know if the travel hurt as much as the lack of tough games.

the offense was able to get away with things against lesser competition that they could not against good teams.  i am most puzzled by the o lines lack of ability in handling the blitz or just a strong pass rush.  they were as experienced as you could have had, yet against delval, muhlenberg, and umhb the pressure on the qb made it tough to get anything going.

the other was the passing game.  they went to a short passing game, usually passes between 0 - 5 from the line of scrimmage.  that will work against teams that are worried about being beaten long so they drop off leaving it open underneath.  delval, muhlenberg, and umhb were not worried about that and took things away.

finally, the change at qb was supposed to have made the team better, did it?  the results do not support that.  any of us who have watched this team the last 4 years felt that something was missing this year on offense.  they lacked the unpredictability that they had previously.  sometimes stats dont tell the whole story and completion percentage is not the end all.  look at yesterday, 17 - 28 for 180 or so and what did it get.  if you were at the game, at least a dozen of those passes were caught less than 5 yards from the line of scrimmage and with umhb's speed were kept to short gains.  some of the long passes that were successful during the year were underthrown and only turned out positive because of the caliber of the receivers making the adjustments.  yesterday, one of only 2 or 3 medium passes attempted was underthrown and picked off, that is what happens when you play teams with athletes in the secondary.  a running qb will usually be shut down by a quick and agressive defense which was also evident yesterday.  too often yesterday it looked like a one read, try to escape play, not always the fault of the qb as i stated earlier about the pressure.

this was a very talented group of seniors and they will be hard to replace and their success will be hard to duplicate.  good luck to them in the future.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 30, 2008, 03:35:48 PM
ski

As wesleydad stated it's about more than just football when it comes to conferences. It's easy for fans from other boards to chirp about us and not joining a conference for football. There have been things that have fallen through the last couple of years that are out of Wesley's hands. Coach Drass has always been loyal to the other teams in the conference. With Wesley being in the CAC for other sports and the possibility of Stevenson picking up football  things could work out there. Salisbury and Gallaudet are already members and there was talk that maybe Frostburg St. would try to get into the conference as well. But you still need a few more schools for football. Unfortunately it's a slow process.

wesleydad

I think that this team missed that second deep threat that Clarke gave them in the past. They also lost Gene Knight early this year and they had a threat in Murray last year with his size(Didn't do much but kept the other team honest) Teams double and triple teamed Beavers all year and Lanouette was getting more attention as well which took away you deep threats. I would disagree on one point with the short yardage passing ONLY in that a number of the passes in the past were short passes that were taken for a lot of yardage. Clarke with his slants and Beavers hitch patterns and  Lanouette with those hands
But I also think that with the line they had they figured they could run the ball. Once again the Knight loss probably hurt there some.

Unfortunately yesterday was one of those games that snow balled quickly and became an avalanche.  Let's hope that the next few years can produce some of the same type players and teams we have seen over these last few years.

Ski

What position did you say you were going out for ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 30, 2008, 03:39:02 PM
wesleydad

Good thing you had an early flight. Seems the whole east coast is backing up over 2 hrs now... 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 30, 2008, 04:06:22 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 30, 2008, 03:35:48 PM

Ski

What position did you say you were going out for ;D

Redshirt waterboy!  ;)

I know when I asked Coach Drass the move question earlier this season on his show, he mentioned that there was going to be movement between NJAC and E8, and that might spur a move for Wesley.  Now, I know that was then, but you never know. 

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 30, 2008, 04:48:46 PM
pawesley, i think we are saying the same thing.  where were the slants and hitches this year, i dont remember many of them called at all.  if beavers is doubled and tripled and lano is doubled, then shouldn't the other receiver have been open for those routes.  i agree that losing clarke as a deep threat hurts, but there are other receivers that can run that route.  they never showed that they would try to throw it to anyone else.  the question is, why were the pass routes changed from those that were successful last year to the ones that were most often called this year?  if it was due to a lack of confidence in the other receivers then why didn't they use the leading receiver from 2 years ago since he wasnt the qb anymore?  although schatz would not have been a take it to the house receiver, he certainly showed the ability to run the slant and hitch 2 years ago and would have certainly made the opponents pay attention to him opening up the field for beavers and lano just like 2 years ago.  beavers was not on the team and jason and mike had 70+ catches each.

knight being injured also hurt, but i am not sure as to how much since aj did a pretty good job when he was in except for the fumbles and knight had that problem too.  i am not sure if teams payed much attention to murray because he didnt make any catches and was soft to the ball.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 30, 2008, 05:32:50 PM
wesleydad

You would have a better incite to what was called and what broke down on a play and to what was run and wasn't open or what a coverage dictated on a play call. But I didn't see a lot of differences in the offense, other than some bootlegs and QB sweeps last week. I did only see one competitive game (Del-Val) and there were a lot of things that happened on both sides of the ball that day. Unfortunately yesterdays game was not one of the better performances. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 01, 2008, 12:58:54 PM
I have a different take on the Wesley UMHB game.

These are very familiar rivals by now.  Every game has been high-stakes.

Sometimes things break one way for one team, and the dam bursts.

This game was somewhat like the OU-Texas Tech game.  I honestly think that UMHB wins 6-7 out of 10, but Wesley has been a solid performer.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 01, 2008, 04:45:42 PM
McSweeny came off hurt in the game against UMHB, anybody got any info on that or is he fine?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 01, 2008, 04:49:05 PM
He had his knee wrapped and on ice when he came to Schoepf's BBQ after the game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on December 01, 2008, 05:33:47 PM
From what I remember after he hurt the leg, he actually did come back in the game and played a series. Then Jason came in for the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2008, 06:32:01 PM
mcsweeney's injury is being evaluated with some possible damage in the knee.  the fact that he was allowed to go back in the game with the score 36 - 7 and obviously limping begs to question, why?  there was nothing to be gained by it, just another question about some of the decisions made by the coaches this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AJK on December 02, 2008, 02:52:55 AM
 Question the coaches?  About what?
  your starter say's he Ok to go after coming out of the game and he goes back in.
    They went with what they thought gave them the best chance to win the game.  This game was more about the Jimmy and Joe's not the X's and O's.
   UMHB was the better team and If you turn it over the way Wesley did, you generally lose.

the bitter Dad routine is way over played
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 02, 2008, 01:26:01 PM
Agreed. While different perspectives are appreciated, I think this has gone on a little far. From where I sit during the games, I loved watching a QB that positively led his team. There is no denying leadership.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 02, 2008, 01:57:18 PM
From what I read on this particular website, it seemed like the QB from last year had every chance to be the starter and just didn't rise to the occasion.  Evidently, he was told numerous times that either he improved, or changes were going to be made. 

Seems like the coach was fair, of course, I was not there and am only going on what I read.  It seems like Wesley got just as far this year as they did any other year (relatively speaking).

Seems like a non-story to me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on December 02, 2008, 02:23:57 PM
I don't know what happened either, but to me looking at the stats it seems to me that Wesley thought that McSweeney was the QB of the next few years and they wanted to start the process this year. From what I gathered, Schatz only started 1 game and he didn't even get to finish it.

Obviosuly things could have happened in the off season or in practice but 1 game seems to be a short time to take the job away from someone who took you to the quarterfinals the previous year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2008, 03:47:31 PM
Quote from: crufootball on December 02, 2008, 02:23:57 PM
I don't know what happened either, but to me looking at the stats it seems to me that Wesley thought that McSweeney was the QB of the next few years and they wanted to start the process this year. From what I gathered, Schatz only started 1 game and he didn't even get to finish it.

Obviosuly things could have happened in the off season or in practice but 1 game seems to be a short time to take the job away from someone who took you to the quarterfinals the previous year.

I think you got it right, that Drass wanted to get McSweeny into the fold sooner than later.  IMHO, McSweeny has a far more accurate arm and an aggressive temprament, something I noted last year during the few snaps he got.  He doesn't tend to stay in the pocket and while it didn't help in the UMHB game, he thinks well on his feet and like Derrick Warrick a couple years ago, extended quite a few drives by creating something out of nothing.  (Thinking back, Derrick Warrick was something special) Luckily, he has two more years of play ahead of him.  I think he will be a great leader on the field.  Watch this space.

I don't know why Drass didn't employ Schatz at WR on a regular basis.  I was really impressed with his ability during the Warrick days where he hooked up on quite a few TD passes.  I think we definately lost something there.

On a side note, I think that Mike Pennewell's injured ankle impacted the Wesley offense in a big way.  While Aaron Jackson contributed speed and agility, Pennewell brought in the hard-hitting running style that Wesley sorely needed in the game.  When I saw Pennewell go down during the Gallaudet game, I knew the Wolverines were going to suffer in the running game.

It's hard to question the decision making of a coaching staff that has carried a program matched by so few in DIII.  Wesley is a small college with a big league football team.  You can't ask for much more.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2008, 06:19:59 PM
ski

It's Chris Warrick ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2008, 07:06:01 PM
ajk, at the time of the game you have every right to question putting mcsweeney back in the game.  he was obviously injured, limping badly when he went back in.  it was 36 - 7 in the 4th quarter.  it is nothing about winning at that point, it is about making a decision to protect the player from himself, that is part of coaching, since you dont do it as far as i know, you wouldnt understand that part.  my point would be the same if i was mcsweeney's father.  if you werent at the game then you cant really have any opinion on what happened.  by the way it has been reported that mcsweeney has a broken tibia just below the knee.  hindsight is 20-20 huh.

it has nothing to do about being bitter about what happened which i dont believe i have been or come across as having been with my opinions on the subject.  i disagreed with the decision, i dont think the team was as good this year the way it played.  you take from it what you want.  it is easy to challenge my motives as i have not hidden who i am, but what i will challenge is for you to prove any point that i have made that has been wrong, not based on your opinion but on facts.

as far as questioning coaches, it happens everyday to the best of them and the worst, as a coach you understand it and deal with it.  since the purpose of this site is for us to put our opinions out there coaching decisions will be part of it.

funny how someone from so far away with no dog in the fight seems to see it a little different than most of us close to the team.  crufootball makes the same point i made a couple of weeks ago.

skunks, not quite as far.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 02, 2008, 07:48:02 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2008, 03:47:31 PM
Quote from: crufootball on December 02, 2008, 02:23:57 PM
I don't know what happened either, but to me looking at the stats it seems to me that Wesley thought that McSweeney was the QB of the next few years and they wanted to start the process this year. From what I gathered, Schatz only started 1 game and he didn't even get to finish it.

Obviosuly things could have happened in the off season or in practice but 1 game seems to be a short time to take the job away from someone who took you to the quarterfinals the previous year.

I think you got it right, that Drass wanted to get McSweeny into the fold sooner than later.  IMHO, McSweeny has a far more accurate arm and an aggressive temprament, something I noted last year during the few snaps he got.  He doesn't tend to stay in the pocket and while it didn't help in the UMHB game, he thinks well on his feet and like Derrick Warrick a couple years ago, extended quite a few drives by creating something out of nothing.  (Thinking back, Derrick Warrick was something special) Luckily, he has two more years of play ahead of him.  I think he will be a great leader on the field.  Watch this space.

I don't know why Drass didn't employ Schatz at WR on a regular basis.  I was really impressed with his ability during the Warrick days where he hooked up on quite a few TD passes.  I think we definately lost something there.

On a side note, I think that Mike Pennewell's injured ankle impacted the Wesley offense in a big way.  While Aaron Jackson contributed speed and agility, Pennewell brought in the hard-hitting running style that Wesley sorely needed in the game.  When I saw Pennewell go down during the Gallaudet game, I knew the Wolverines were going to suffer in the running game.

It's hard to question the decision making of a coaching staff that has carried a program matched by so few in DIII.  Wesley is a small college with a big league football team.  You can't ask for much more.

-Ski
I think something happened in the preseason. Schatz was not very good, he struggled to get the ball to his recievers. He seemed to miss high and low. And in the game he didnt finish he was 5 of 13 for 54 yards. Thats not very good at all. McSweeny seemed like he was the real deal when he got in though. Throwing a TD to Lano bringin Wesley back into the game. I think that in the future he could be like Chris Warrick, maybe better. He was great in his first full year and just imagine what he can do in the next 2 years.

wesleydad, I heard that McSweeny has an MCL issue which there is a possibility that it could heal on its own. Not sure if the info is accurate though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 02, 2008, 07:58:10 PM
wesleydad, is the tibia broken or cracked. Thats the shin bone and i dont think McSweeny would have returned if it were actually broken all the way.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
my son had a conversation with mcsweeney today, and shane said it was the tibia not his knee.  i agree, if it was broken he would have not gone back in.  when i hear more i will pass it on to all the wesley fans.  hope it is nothing serious and he can return.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2008, 08:02:27 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2008, 06:19:59 PM
ski

It's Chris Warrick ;)

Once again.....

DOH!!! >:(

Thanks for the correction.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 02, 2008, 08:03:43 PM
Thanks. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2008, 09:29:55 PM
Ski

That's okay. I am sure somewhere Derrick Warrick is basking in his knew found fame ;D

Well if nothing else we finally have some new  people discussing Wesley football....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2008, 10:22:15 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2008, 09:29:55 PM
Ski

That's okay. I am sure somewhere Derrick Warrick is basking in his knew found fame ;D

Well if nothing else we finally have some new  people discussing Wesley football....

I was typing away and wasn't paying attention, hehehehe....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 04, 2008, 10:00:01 PM
everyone have a great holiday, we are heading to the stagg to join stone station and then off to see my other son return from his tour of duty in afghanistan, can be no better present in the world, serving the greatest country in the world for 12 months and returning safely.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 04, 2008, 11:56:46 PM
Have a safe trip!  I'm always around to talk Wesley football.  This summer, I will have a lot of spare time to scout out prospects for next year..... ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 06, 2008, 03:37:09 PM
if there is any solace in watching the results of a game after you have been eliminated, umhb crushed w&j today.  the game was over in the first quarter.  it is a shame that wesley had to play so bad last week, not sure if they could have beat umhb but they certainly were and would have been more competitive than w&j was today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 06, 2008, 07:38:22 PM
wesleydad, personally, i think that wesley would have beaten UMHB had they played better. that is a shame that we played so bad. we should have worked on hitting recievers like CJ Bacote more while Beavers and Lano were covered heavily. Turnovers didnt help either. BUT i believe that if we played like we did in the middle part of the year, we would have won the game by a little bit.

Anyway have a safe trip if you havent already made it yet.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 06, 2008, 08:14:09 PM
I don't think we would of won, however, it would of been a whole lot closer of a game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 06, 2008, 10:06:51 PM
waterboy, i was at the game, umhb was better on both lines and that determined how most of the game went.  wesley could not move the ball on the ground very well and could not get any push from the d line to force umhb to change what they do.  i think we are just a notch below them, especially they way they are playing now.  it would have taken wesley's best game to beat them and i dont think wesley had any game this year that would have been good enough.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: old ends on December 08, 2008, 04:06:22 PM
PA_Wesleyfan,,
  good luck with your arm, but I am sure your hunt and peck skills will improve. I hope it is not the arm you use the most,  ie righty or lefty.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 08, 2008, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: old ends on December 08, 2008, 04:06:22 PM
PA_Wesleyfan,,
  good luck with your arm, but I am sure your hunt and peck skills will improve. I hope it is not the arm you use the most,  ie righty or lefty.

old ends

Thanks. I just have to decide to either hunt or peck  ;)  S  m  t p n  m y  l o  l  k  t  i

translation So my typing may look like this

Unfortunately it's the right one...i have to cheer left handed for awhile
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 08, 2008, 07:07:56 PM
pawesley, good luck with the arm.  rehab well.  i will tip one back for you when i am with the stone station crew at the stagg.  have a great holiday and i will talk to you down the road.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 08, 2008, 07:22:39 PM
wesleydad



Thanks.  I had been back and forth with my decision to proceed with the surgery but I made the right choice.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 09, 2008, 07:30:13 PM
since it is getting late for this site to continue posting, i would like to wish all of you a happy holiday season and a safe new year.

my family and i will be attending the stagg for the second year now and i highly recommend it to anyone who has not made the trip.  it is inexpensive and a great time.  the stone station folk do a great job and are fine hosts.  the other folks that you meet bring even more to the experience, even some of the mount union people are ok to talk to ;).  too bad wesley will not be playing.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 10, 2008, 01:40:28 PM
:o Big time congratulations in making D3Football.com All-South Region Team to Wesley Wolverines First Team Matt Ferguson, Jon Lanouette, Larry Beavers, Sean Matthews and Second Team Mike Ward.  You guys definately deserved it!!  :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 10, 2008, 03:48:42 PM
Eh......Wesleydad only said that because he was drinking our fine Great Lakes microbrew.   ;D

None for him this year because IF Mount makes it we know he won't be cheering for the Raiders.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 10, 2008, 07:43:00 PM
Well, since the season is over for the Wolverines, I stepped back and looked at stats from almost all the ACFC football campaigns. I am just curious to know what all of you think, but who is the best all time ACFC player at each position? The player can be from any year, and any team in the ACFC currently.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 10, 2008, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: the waterboy on December 10, 2008, 07:43:00 PM
Well, since the season is over for the Wolverines, I stepped back and looked at stats from almost all the ACFC football campaigns. I am just curious to know what all of you think, but who is the best all time ACFC player at each position? The player can be from any year, and any team in the ACFC currently.

I don't go back that far in watching Wesley football (only 3 years) but I can tell you that Chris Warrick at QB and Bryan Robinson at DE would be right at the top of the list....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 10, 2008, 10:19:13 PM
hey skunk, it was a fine micro brew that you brought to the game.  i will be bringing a case of a fine pa microbrew called victory.  probably the variety pack.  you are correct in that i will be cheering for the team other than mount union, not because i dont like you guys, it is just that you have enough fans already. ;)

i am still kicking around the idea of getting in my car and driving friday evening to the pittsburgh area, 5 hour drive or so, and then on to mount union for the game on saturday morning.  if i know that some good folks from mount union will be doing a little tailgating before the game and would welcome a wesley fan, i may just make the trip. :D  i am just not sure if i want to drive that far to possibly see a blowout, but i did fly to texas to watch wesley get trounced, but i did have a special reason, what turned out to be my son's last game.  just jonesin for some football and it has only been a week, not sure if i can wait for the stagg.  if i dont make the trip i am sure we will meet at the stagg.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2008, 10:57:31 PM
wesleydad

did you see that Devlin is transferring from Penn St? probably dropping to IAA so he doesn't have to sit. and Delaware is a possibility .he was at  downingtown west right?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 10, 2008, 11:01:45 PM
i believe so, not surprized by the decision, why anyone would go to penn state to play qb is beyond me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 11, 2008, 10:51:44 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2008, 10:57:31 PM
wesleydad

did you see that Devlin is transferring from Penn St? probably dropping to IAA so he doesn't have to sit. and Delaware is a possibility .he was at  downingtown west right?

Isn't Clark a senior this year?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 11, 2008, 11:28:24 AM
I believe Clark was a redshirt sophomore this past season.

Robbie Schoenhoft (sp) from Ohio State was the Delaware starter last season.  I believe he has 2 years left for the Blue Hens and Mr. Keeler.  If Devlin wants to play right away, I think he'll go somewhere else.  It would be tough to beat out the current starter who already has a year of experience under his belt.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BTEXPRESS on December 11, 2008, 12:00:42 PM
Pat Devlin is from Downingtown EAST, Clark was granted an extra Red Shirt year so he has one more year next season. Apparently the transfer QB from Ohio State was a bust at Delaware,  he lost his starting spot during the last two games and Delaware went from playing in the 1AA National Championship game to having their first 8 loss season in their long storied football program. Devlin would be a perfect fit in Keeler's spread offense. I tell you what, if I had a son who was a QB coming out of High School, I would never have him commit to Delaware. Keeler just keeps bringing transfer after transfer into the program at that position.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 11, 2008, 01:24:27 PM
bt, i could not agree more.  it is a shame that coaches dont make commitments to these kids, if the kid is not good enough that is the way it goes, but to constantly bring players in from d1 and replace your own recruit says something about the coach to me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BTEXPRESS on December 11, 2008, 01:42:43 PM
He did the same thing at Rowan with transfers. Yes, he had great success at Rowan and won a National Championship at Delaware, but the program is not run the same as it was under Tubby Raymond's watch. It's all about what have you done lately with many of these Head Coaches at all levels including DIII.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 11, 2008, 02:17:24 PM
I just looked at the stats... yeah he had a terrible year for Delaware... but shouldn't Keeler have known this going in?  How many GOOD QBs has Ohio State produced in the last 10 years... and this was a guy that couldn't beat out Boeckmann (and thus couldn't hack it at OSU)??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BTEXPRESS on December 11, 2008, 02:28:12 PM
Coming out of High school he was an All American and was invited to the Nike 11 QB camp ( same as Tebow, Stafford, Clausen, Juice Williams etc) and he was 6' 6" and a Ohio kid. Tressel thought he got his QB of the future at the time and I guess Keeler thought the same thing when he wanted to transfer to Delaware.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 11, 2008, 04:43:33 PM
I'll have to look for the write-up again but I think Villanova and JMU were mentioned as also possible schools he would go to..

I am not a Keeler fan at all but I am sure that there are other coaches who try that and aren't successful.. I remember Jersey City had a number of transfers and look what it did for them... Of course transferring to play and transferring because you don't have the smarts to stay in school are two different animals ;D


 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 11, 2008, 07:25:12 PM
well wesley fans, couldnt take another week of no live football so i am off to alliance oh to see the mount/wheaton game on saturday.  i am leaving friday afternoon and with any luck on the road will be sitting with some mount fans at a place called the wing warehouse by 1000.  aint this something, d3 football is the greatest and it helps that i dont have to worry about any youngens and my wife, who thinks i am crazy anyway, allows me to prove it every once in awhile.  i will file a report when i return as to how wesley may have stacked up against both teams when i return on sunday.  enjoy the weekend, time to find the cold weather gear since it is only going to be 31 for a high, but the sun will be shining with low wind.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on December 11, 2008, 08:46:56 PM

Wesleydad,

You are inspiring me...I think I will be taking some road trips next year
to see some of the big games...enjoy Alliance......Go Wheaton......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 12, 2008, 07:57:37 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 11, 2008, 07:25:12 PM
well wesley fans, couldnt take another week of no live football so i am off to alliance oh to see the mount/wheaton game on saturday.  i am leaving friday afternoon and with any luck on the road will be sitting with some mount fans at a place called the wing warehouse by 1000.  aint this something, d3 football is the greatest and it helps that i dont have to worry about any youngens and my wife, who thinks i am crazy anyway, allows me to prove it every once in awhile.  i will file a report when i return as to how wesley may have stacked up against both teams when i return on sunday.  enjoy the weekend, time to find the cold weather gear since it is only going to be 31 for a high, but the sun will be shining with low wind.

Have a safe trip!  You can't beat being a fanboy!  It's what makes life fun.  Enjoy the game.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 12, 2008, 09:09:29 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 12, 2008, 07:57:37 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 11, 2008, 07:25:12 PM
well wesley fans, couldnt take another week of no live football so i am off to alliance oh to see the mount/wheaton game on saturday.  i am leaving friday afternoon and with any luck on the road will be sitting with some mount fans at a place called the wing warehouse by 1000.  aint this something, d3 football is the greatest and it helps that i dont have to worry about any youngens and my wife, who thinks i am crazy anyway, allows me to prove it every once in awhile.  i will file a report when i return as to how wesley may have stacked up against both teams when i return on sunday.  enjoy the weekend, time to find the cold weather gear since it is only going to be 31 for a high, but the sun will be shining with low wind.

Have a safe trip!  You can't beat being a fanboy!  It's what makes life fun.  Enjoy the game.  ;)

-Ski


  Have A GREAT time at MUC,, enjoy the experience,,,I have been to a few Wesley games ,,and many MUC games,,and I am sure you will love the Mount atmosphere,,and be sure to tailgate !!And wear Boots to keep the feet warm!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 12, 2008, 06:00:56 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on December 12, 2008, 09:09:29 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 12, 2008, 07:57:37 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 11, 2008, 07:25:12 PM
well wesley fans, couldnt take another week of no live football so i am off to alliance oh to see the mount/wheaton game on saturday.  i am leaving friday afternoon and with any luck on the road will be sitting with some mount fans at a place called the wing warehouse by 1000.  aint this something, d3 football is the greatest and it helps that i dont have to worry about any youngens and my wife, who thinks i am crazy anyway, allows me to prove it every once in awhile.  i will file a report when i return as to how wesley may have stacked up against both teams when i return on sunday.  enjoy the weekend, time to find the cold weather gear since it is only going to be 31 for a high, but the sun will be shining with low wind.

Have a safe trip!  You can't beat being a fanboy!  It's what makes life fun.  Enjoy the game.  ;)

-Ski


  Have A GREAT time at MUC,, enjoy the experience,,,I have been to a few Wesley games ,,and many MUC games,,and I am sure you will love the Mount atmosphere,,and be sure to tailgate !!And wear Boots to keep the feet warm!!

It's a fun trip, even more fun if your team is not on the field. Enjoy the experience as it is one all D3 fans should get to enjoy. Drive safe and we will hook-up back in Salem next weekend. ;)

ps. I'll be on ESPN2 as part of JMU's purple-out tonight against Montana. You gotta love playoff football. Nothing like it in all college football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 12, 2008, 11:39:14 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on December 12, 2008, 06:00:56 PM
ps. I'll be on ESPN2 as part of JMU's purple-out tonight against Montana. You gotta love playoff football. Nothing like it in all college football.

Sorry about JMU.  They did a great job in staying in the game, though!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 13, 2008, 01:03:27 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 12, 2008, 11:39:14 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on December 12, 2008, 06:00:56 PM
ps. I'll be on ESPN2 as part of JMU's purple-out tonight against Montana. You gotta love playoff football. Nothing like it in all college football.

Sorry about JMU.  They did a great job in staying in the game, though!

-Ski

4 TOs will do you in just about everytime. JMU's coach said he had never lost a game that his team never punted in before. Again, turnovers kill.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 13, 2008, 01:39:03 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 11, 2008, 07:25:12 PM
well wesley fans, couldnt take another week of no live football so i am off to alliance oh to see the mount/wheaton game on saturday.  i am leaving friday afternoon and with any luck on the road will be sitting with some mount fans at a place called the wing warehouse by 1000.  aint this something, d3 football is the greatest and it helps that i dont have to worry about any youngens and my wife, who thinks i am crazy anyway, allows me to prove it every once in awhile.  i will file a report when i return as to how wesley may have stacked up against both teams when i return on sunday.  enjoy the weekend, time to find the cold weather gear since it is only going to be 31 for a high, but the sun will be shining with low wind.

wesleydad,

not sure if you'll check this or not, but great meeting you tonight.  Even though you said you were coming .. we didn't really believe you'd make it until you walked in with the Wesley shirt on.  You are truly a fan of D3 football.  Sorry I didn't get more time to speak with you, the MUC guys are a friendly bunch.  Its hard to make "the rounds" and since it is my first time up here, I also hadn't met everyone. 

From what I understand you are sitting with skunk and skunks_sidekick just below the pressbox.  I will make a point to say hi to you guys tomorrow at some point.  I don't think I have to do anything but set up the booth before we go on the air at 11:50am. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 13, 2008, 03:04:52 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on December 13, 2008, 01:03:27 AM

4 TOs will do you in just about everytime. JMU's coach said he had never lost a game that his team never punted in before. Again, turnovers kill.

I know EXACTLY how you feel!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 14, 2008, 11:58:43 AM
just got back from alliance, it was a fun trip.  the guys from mount are great hosts.  hung out with them after i arrived friday evening and then was invited to join skunk and skunkssidekick for the yearly ritual of margaritas and mexican breakfast before the game.  since it was pretty cold, i did not mind not missing the tailgate before the game.

saintsfan, it was also nice meeting you with the mount guys on friday night.  i didnt get to sit with them since they were in the crowded sections so i went to the end of the stands to watch the game.  nice stadium, although the sound seems to come out of the mount side on a delay which i think is caused by the roof over the stands.

as far as the game, i believe wesley is at least as good if not better than wheaton.  our offense is just as good and our defense is better.  i was not impressed by their all american d back and return man, ittersagen.  he did not make a play all day and was beat on several passes by short.  he also does not compare to beavers as a returner.

mount union is very good on offense.  they are smallish on the o line, but do the job.  the coaches also made some nice adjustments at halftime to open up the running game.  they give up too many yards against the pass.  if the wheaton receivers did not have a case of the drops early in the game, wheaton may have been able to keep the game closer.  they had at least a half dozen drops in the first half including one that was a touchdown.  mount union was better, but they would have needed all of kmic's yards to win the game.

one more trip left for the season, stagg bowl next weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 14, 2008, 06:09:14 PM
 Well typing left handed isn't too bad but  good thing there is no limit on deletes.... :o I know how to spell but my fingers don't  ;D I'll be watching the game next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 14, 2008, 06:12:55 PM
just a little traveling.  i figured i would see how many miles of driving i did this year to watch football.

after
3 trips to and from dover
2 trips to del val - went to see the salisbury/delval game
1 trip to frostburg md
             iona n.y.
             salisbury md
             lake erie oh
             muhlenberg pa
      and mount union oh to see the semi final game

i have logged 3374 miles not including any driving to and from the hotel to the game and around any of the towns we were in.  

i still have 367 more to do this week when we go to salem for the stagg, i could double that if we were returning from there, but i wont count those miles since we are driving on to clarksville, tn so we can see our son return from afghanistan on sunday - tuesday, not sure which day since he doesnt know how long it will take once he leaves on the 19th and have to return from there.

i also did not include any of the driving that we did in florida when we went to webber and in texas when we went to belton, easily a couple hundred more from the airports to the hotels alone.  so, when it is all said and done i think i will be close to 4000 miles.  

i think i might be in line for a mastercard commercial because the experiences we have had this year are just that, PRICELESS.  and i did use my mastercard for most of it. ;)

good thing i dont mind driving.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: K-Mack on December 14, 2008, 06:24:53 PM
Fan of the year nominee?

We should probably set up a thread for crazy travel stories, especially by parents. You guys will go anywhere for your kids :)

The best is when you start going to games your son is not playing in, that's when you know you're hooked.

See you this weekend in Salem.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 14, 2008, 06:56:50 PM
I see you too have had a good year Wesleydad! I have made it to 5 Bridgewater games, 5 JMU games, and 3 UVA games this year. Lets say I'm glad to finish it off in the "REAL DIVISION" at the Stagg Bowl this year. :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 15, 2008, 11:18:25 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on December 14, 2008, 06:56:50 PM
I see you too have had a good year Wesleydad! I have made it to 5 Bridgewater games, 5 JMU games, and 3 UVA games this year. Lets say I'm glad to finish it off in the "REAL DIVISION" at the Stagg Bowl this year. :D

All of a sudden, I feel so small.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 15, 2008, 12:40:07 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on December 14, 2008, 06:56:50 PM
I see you too have had a good year Wesleydad! I have made it to 5 Bridgewater games, 5 JMU games, and 3 UVA games this year. Lets say I'm glad to finish it off in the "REAL DIVISION" at the Stagg Bowl this year. :D

  Llama

  Jeez.... You should use last year or the year before when you treked to Wesley a few times...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 16, 2008, 09:31:09 PM
are there any wesley faithful making the trip to the stagg?  let me know, we will be there and it is going to be fun.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 17, 2008, 09:51:39 PM
Congratulations to Larry Beavers in making the 2008 AFCA All-American Team!  Way to go!   :D

I'll also tip my hat to Salisbury's Jarrell Chandler in making the team as well!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 18, 2008, 09:24:37 PM
getting ready to hit the sack.  a day at school and then in the car to drive to salem for the weekend.  too bad there wont be any other wesely fans at the stagg, if you can go in the future i highly recommend it.

i should be able to post early saturday morning, real early since the tailgate starts at 7.  stone station is the host and micro brews will be the toast.

i think uwww wins the game after seeing mount play last week.  if uwww's lines can control things and it seems like they can since they dominated umhb last week they will win.  i'll go with 35 - 24.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 20, 2008, 04:43:57 PM
checking in after the game.  we arrived at salem civic center at 700 am for tailgating.  there were already 30 + cars in the lot.  the stone station crew pulled in about 15 minutes later and the fun began.  it was nice to see people that i havent seen in a year and to be greeted like old friends.  the tailgating was a little subdued because the game started so early.  the spread was just as good with the slow country boil the main course.  there was so much other food that you could not go hungry.  i almost forgot, the mount union folks put out a great breakfast spread of eggs, sausage, home fries, biscuits and country sausage and gravy.  nothing better than breakfast and a good micro brew beer.  these people are great and what make this game fun.

as far as the game goes, the better team did not win.  the better coached team won.  mount took advantage of something they saw early to score in the first quarter, but were shut down the rest of the game.  uwww was able to move the ball almost at will, but they were unable to finish.  they could have scored in the 40's had they done so.  there were some questionable coaching decisions once they got the ball inside the 30.  the missed field goals also hurt.  it was a fun game to watch and the fans were great.  i dont think mount makes it back next year because without micheli they have no shot in this game.  as i mentioned before the game, they do not cover well and are small on the line.  i dont think the oac will defeat them, but someone else should be able to step up and beat them.  we shall see.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 21, 2008, 04:52:56 PM
I'm happy you had a great trip!  I agree, UWW was in the game to the end.  Take away the interception return and you would of had a Warhawk victory.

Have a very happy holidays!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 22, 2008, 05:30:52 PM
wesleydad,

Glad to hear you had a good time at the Stagg Bowl.  Tell your son that is coming home that we thank him for what he's sacrificed for us.  Enjoy your time with him and may you and your family have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Peace
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 22, 2008, 05:46:26 PM
saintsfan, thanks for your wishes.  i have a long list of thanks to give my sons way, many of them from some of the fine people i have met these past years at d3.  keep in touch.  i will be looking for games to go to next year and as you already know i have no problem driving pretty much anywhere less than 8 hours.  we wish you and your family a great holiday season also.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 24, 2008, 10:03:28 AM
hello all, the 101st airborne assault unit of the u s army returned safely last evening.  again, i would like to thank all of you who showed concern for my son and all his comrades this past year.  i passed on your thanks and appreciation for their service.  he looks the same, maybe a little skinnier, but healthy.  i guees the food must have not been that good.  it was the best xmas present we could have asked for  :D.  merry xmas and happy new year to all of you.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 24, 2008, 02:00:01 PM
HAPPY HOLIDAYS to all in the ACFC and all D3 fans

Here's to a healthy new year..   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on December 24, 2008, 09:54:08 PM

Wesleydad,

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your loved ones. Welcome home and thanks again to your son for his service in the defense of freedom.God Bless you and all D3 fans.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 24, 2008, 10:44:43 PM
thanks, muledaddy, same to you and your family.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 25, 2008, 12:11:15 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 24, 2008, 02:00:01 PM
HAPPY HOLIDAYS to all in the ACFC and all D3 fans

Here's to a healthy new year..   

And a very happy holidays to you!!!  Have a safe one out there folks!  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 17, 2009, 09:04:30 AM
I think I just saw some tumbleweed floating past, hehehe......  Anyways, I hope everybody had a happy Christmas and a good new year.  Only 9 months to go!!  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on February 03, 2009, 03:57:16 PM
Want to say how exciting it is to have Wesley playing a Northwest Conference team!
(If what I hear is true)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 03, 2009, 04:29:58 PM
D.O.C.

I don't have a definate answer but I heard a wisper that it may happen.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 03, 2009, 04:43:38 PM
I stand corrected.... Pacific Lutheran has the game posted on their site, scheduled for Sept 26
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on February 03, 2009, 05:00:29 PM
pa and d o c, coach drass announced the pac luth game at the team awards luncheon.  he said they are waiting to get one confirmation for another game before they release the schedule.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on February 03, 2009, 05:46:28 PM
WOW...now that's a trip for the Wolverines
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 03, 2009, 06:40:56 PM
 :o  Now that is news!!!  What a great way to check parity levels between the coasts!  I am really curious on what the schedule holds.  I sure hope it isn't another Travelocity commericial....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 03, 2009, 07:14:12 PM
Ski

You may get a few home games this year.. But that's all I know. I would think the coaches have been busy with recruiting. I usually get a look at the schedule at the May golf outing. At this point I may only be able to watch this year as the Rotator Cuff tear was rather larger than most....Then again a shorter swing may help ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 03, 2009, 07:28:32 PM
Ski

They do open at Home with CNU. That info was passed on by  CNU85
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 03, 2009, 08:16:24 PM
Well, it's a start!  Thanks for the intel.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on February 04, 2009, 08:15:08 PM
ski, no travelocity this year.  i think coach said 5 or 6 home games, cnu, frostburg, salisbury, webber or lake erie not sure which one and at least one other.  i cant recall exactly.  so you will get to see more games with less travel this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 05, 2009, 10:36:42 PM
Good news!  Thanks!  Interesting to see some non-divisional rematches on the books.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 07, 2009, 04:34:49 PM
Maybe Wesley will get together with those SLIAC tyeams with that conference losing two programs this year.. Leaves a few teams short on games but I don't think they would be in region
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 07, 2009, 06:19:59 PM
Yeah, I don't believe they are. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on February 07, 2009, 08:29:59 PM
Huntingdon and LaGrange would be in region for Wesley. On the open dates page the dates don't look like they match up though. Too bad. Huntingdon and Wesley have played each other before and I wouldn't mind seeing that match up renewed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 09, 2009, 06:37:21 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 07, 2009, 08:29:59 PM
Huntingdon and LaGrange would be in region for Wesley. On the open dates page the dates don't look like they match up though. Too bad. Huntingdon and Wesley have played each other before and I wouldn't mind seeing that match up renewed.


I would too.  It's been a while.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 12, 2009, 07:31:40 PM
Hawk88
Wesley is playing Lagrange this year.. Don't know when and where yet. That certainly helps as an in region game and also gives Wesley a couple of tough n on conference games with CNU in the mix.
Hopefully they'll get that tenth game..

Ski

Ga. is only a little off the runmway at Dover  ;D if you make a wide enough go round you could catch a little from the air!! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 15, 2009, 02:34:20 PM
Yeah right, hehehehe.....  I heard that Wesley is looking at a change in conferences sometime in 2010 or 2011 with a possible Capital Athletic Conference involvement.  I sure hope Wesley finds a home where every game counts.  They are having problems again this year finding regional opponents.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 15, 2009, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: Teamski on February 15, 2009, 02:34:20 PM
Yeah right, hehehehe.....  I heard that Wesley is looking at a change in conferences sometime in 2010 or 2011 with a possible Capital Athletic Conference involvement.  I sure hope Wesley finds a home where every game counts.  They are having problems again this year finding regional opponents.

-Ski
I hope the Capital AC rumors are real and substantive, and not just echoes of my musings on these web sites.   :-\

I can see how it might work.  However, what is conceivable and what is do-able are different.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 15, 2009, 02:58:46 PM
Ralph

Especially with the way money being tight. I read an article that the SUNY schools are getting 10 % less from the state of N.Y. That could have a trickle down effect.

Ski

It's hard to get an in region game with a PA school when noone within 4 hr drive(which puts you outside the 200 mile range)  will  play you.. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 16, 2009, 10:54:43 PM

  This is not football related but Andrew Geyer a Wesley student and member of the golf team was killed by a suspected drunk driver while visiting West Va Univ. over the weekend..

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/golf/2008-09/news/20090219_geyer

Keep his family and friends in your prayers!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 17, 2009, 04:31:34 PM
Here is an updated account of the accident resulting in the death of Andrew Geyer

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20090217/SPORTS/902170319/1002/SPORTS&referrer=NEWSFRONTCAROUSEL
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 18, 2009, 07:26:14 PM
A real sad loss.  And, to a repeat offender to boot.... My heart goes out to his family.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 23, 2009, 01:29:33 PM
Hood (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=46068) gets a new Fieldturf surface for soccer, field hockey and lacrosse.

There is no mention of football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 23, 2009, 06:56:09 PM
Unfortunately Stevenson never released anything after either... I don't know of any other irons in the fire for the ACFC either..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2009, 10:46:41 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on February 23, 2009, 06:56:09 PM
Unfortunately Stevenson never released anything after either... I don't know of any other irons in the fire for the ACFC either..
Hoopsville tonight...

Stevenson's board to vote on adding football at the May meeting.

I am optimistic.

The dean at Stevenson is an old friend of mine!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 02, 2009, 11:37:23 AM
Ralph
 
I would guess it would be another three years before Stevenson is ready to compete on the varsity field. And with Gallaudet commited to the NAC for now it would seem that the CAC won't have enough teams to woo others for an auto bid.  That doesn't help Wesley's short term problems in scheduling.  I am sure you have seen my posts in  General issues about the teams who just flat out won't play Wesley. I don't know how you fix that problem. Maybe you give Wesley in region status in all of Pa and Ny. Though most of the teams in Pa are in the south region or close enough for the 200 mile rule. And the New York teams have been asked to play non region games with Wesley and all have passed to this point. Springfield and Hartwick  from the E8 both have declned offers from Wesley to play. And that there isn't much of a chance that Wesley and or Salisbury will soon be in a conference that fills out their schedules. I omit Frostburg because everyone that turns down Wesley ends up scheduling them instead.   ??? Says something right there!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 02, 2009, 01:41:59 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on March 02, 2009, 11:37:23 AM
Ralph
 
I would guess it would be another three years before Stevenson is ready to compete on the varsity field. And with Gallaudet commited to the NAC for now it would seem that the CAC won't have enough teams to woo others for an auto bid.  That doesn't help Wesley's short term problems in scheduling.  I am sure you have seen my posts in  General issues about the teams who just flat out won't play Wesley. I don't know how you fix that problem. Maybe you give Wesley in region status in all of Pa and Ny. Though most of the teams in Pa are in the south region or close enough for the 200 mile rule. And the New York teams have been asked to play non region games with Wesley and all have passed to this point. Springfield and Hartwick  from the E8 both have declned offers from Wesley to play. And that there isn't much of a chance that Wesley and or Salisbury will soon be in a conference that fills out their schedules. I omit Frostburg because everyone that turns down Wesley ends up scheduling them instead.   ??? Says something right there!

I understand that the Capital AC bylaws require a school to compete in the sport, if the conference offers that sport.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 02, 2009, 02:53:24 PM
Ralph

There was wispers that maybe Frostgburg st was applying to the CAC, but that was a year ago and I haven't seen anything that would lean that way. That WOULD give the conference 5 core football members with Steveson. But then you have to get 2 teams to jump from somewhere else. I think that when the E8 grabs a team or two we may see another domino effect with some eastern conferences.  If nothing else it may open up some schedules.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 03, 2009, 12:58:27 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 02, 2009, 01:41:59 PM

I understand that the Capital AC bylaws require a school to compete in the sport, if the conference offers that sport.

That must be new, because it wasn't that way before.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on March 25, 2009, 06:59:13 AM
Does anybody know when Wesley's training camp starts?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 25, 2009, 06:48:02 PM
ski

They just had spring practice !! They may have a few days left
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on March 25, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
Thanks..... I missed that one, hehehe.... Any ideas on numbers?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 26, 2009, 04:43:40 PM
ski

There are some great prospects but until they enroll in the fall and step on the field we all just have to be patient. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 31, 2009, 10:55:22 PM
ski

first look at the schedule looks like you get to see six games this hear ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on April 01, 2009, 10:04:40 AM
Is it online yet?
Last schedule I need to make a composite for the league
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 01, 2009, 03:43:37 PM
Quote from: nnasid on April 01, 2009, 10:04:40 AM
Is it online yet?
Last schedule I need to make a composite for the league

Eight games here: http://www.d3football.com/school/WSLY/2009
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 01, 2009, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 01, 2009, 03:43:37 PM
Quote from: nnasid on April 01, 2009, 10:04:40 AM
Is it online yet?
Last schedule I need to make a composite for the league

Eight games here: http://www.d3football.com/school/WSLY/2009

Pat

I saw your reply on the E8 board. The schedule I saw had a DII game with East Greenville in the second week but that was a week or so ago. I do know there may be one or two things brewing with the SCAC teams so it's possible that could change. All I do know is Wesley is having more and more trouble getting anyone in DIII to play. That being said I understand that they may have a couple already lined up for next year .   :-[ But they thought that this year too
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 03, 2009, 11:12:01 AM
 :o  Wow!  6 out of 8 at home!!  Sweet!  As mentioned, Wesley will get hammered again for out of region/division games.  They can't afford to lose a single game, and even then, a very low seeding.   :-[

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 03, 2009, 04:42:24 PM
Ski

I don't think that is going to end up being finalized schedule... ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 06, 2009, 03:42:04 PM
Quote from: nnasid on April 01, 2009, 10:04:40 AM
Is it online yet?
Last schedule I need to make a composite for the league

Is yours online yet? I only have three games for you guys.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 06, 2009, 11:56:20 PM
Ski

Pat updated the schedule.. Check it out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 07, 2009, 01:01:14 PM
Actually wasn't me -- probably Wesley did it themselves since we both use the Presto database for game data.

I assume that Thursday afternoon kickoff time or date is incorrect.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on April 07, 2009, 01:03:04 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 06, 2009, 03:42:04 PM
Quote from: nnasid on April 01, 2009, 10:04:40 AM
Is it online yet?
Last schedule I need to make a composite for the league

Is yours online yet? I only have three games for you guys.

Pat: Give us a week and it should be.  It's 99.2% done
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: hasanova on April 07, 2009, 02:12:51 PM
Quote from: nnasid on April 07, 2009, 01:03:04 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 06, 2009, 03:42:04 PM
Quote from: nnasid on April 01, 2009, 10:04:40 AM
Is it online yet?
Last schedule I need to make a composite for the league

Is yours online yet? I only have three games for you guys.

Pat: Give us a week and it should be.  It's 99.2% done
Well, if 9 out of 10 games were set, that would be 90% done.  What constitutes the missing 0.8%?  Perhaps whether the home team will provide bottled or powdered Gatorade.  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 07, 2009, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 07, 2009, 01:01:14 PM
Actually wasn't me -- probably Wesley did it themselves since we both use the Presto database for game data.

I assume that Thursday afternoon kickoff time or date is incorrect.

  Pat

I would have to assume that your assumption is corrrect. Or maybe that's the only way Del Val would  play Wesley!!!! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 07, 2009, 04:26:29 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 06, 2009, 11:56:20 PM
Ski

Pat updated the schedule.. Check it out.

Thanks for the heads-up!  Wow, an actual 10 game season!  Only four good, solid regional games, though.  That said, a definate improvement over last year, if by an inch.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 07, 2009, 06:02:24 PM
ski

There's actually 5 regional games. The DelVal game is within 200 miles so it counts.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 08, 2009, 08:53:39 AM
I meant quality regional games, hehehehe.  Still less than the 7 last year (if Gallaudet and Widener are regional).

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSWho2007 on April 10, 2009, 02:35:59 PM
I just wanted to say, that as a CRU fan, I am so happy to see Beavers go. 4.37 in terrible conditions. Good luck on pursuing the next level.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 15, 2009, 10:46:25 PM
Sul Ross (http://www.sulross.edu/pages/6219.asp?ssid=2829) needs a home game on Sept 12th.

1938 miles --- from one end of the South Region to the other.   ;)

Sea level to 4400' altitude...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 16, 2009, 12:00:11 AM
Ralph

I don't know if Wesley is openly looking for any more games this year... They had been in touch with Milsaps but that fell through and they did pick up Del Val again,though I don't know what that cost them.
I know that Coach Drass actively tried all he could to get DIII schools scheduled but it takes two to tango
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 16, 2009, 10:38:32 AM
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2009/04/16/1653/sliac-drops-football-again-umac-absorbs-five.html

SLIAC absorbed by UMAC. Except for Huntingdon and LaGrange, of course.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on April 16, 2009, 11:32:06 AM
Good to be back with our old friends on the ACFC/Independents board.
Looks like so far we have replaced MacMurray and Eureka with Birmingham-Southern and Millsaps. I really like these additions of a couple of good near by rivals. I don't know if we are keeping Westminster and Greenville or are still looking elsewhere.
The only thing I don't like about our schedule now is that Thursday night game at South Alabama because of the scheduling conflict at their stadium. I've been wishing that someone could talk them into coming to Montgomery on Saturday instead but I'm not getting my hopes up.


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on April 16, 2009, 11:32:29 AM
Shame on the SLIAC. >:(

At the least, the SLIAC could have waited until after 2009 so the games that they play with HC and LC would have counted as in-region games. Seems like they have been effectively eliminated from the playoffs.

I hope the northern sliackers don't renege on their commitments to play the scheduled games so they can at least play a full season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 16, 2009, 03:38:29 PM
The SLIAC's announcement made it sound like everything except Huntingdon/MacMurray and Huntingdon/Eureka was being played.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on April 16, 2009, 04:48:14 PM
Thanks Pat. I am told that the LC coach has a committment from our former confreres up north to play the scheduled games.

I still think that SLIAC should have kept up the sponsorship to keep all of the games in-region and to allow the teams to compete for a conference championship.

I'd love to know what they were thinking.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on April 16, 2009, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on April 16, 2009, 04:48:14 PM
I'd love to know what they were thinking.

Probably that doing it this year gets the UMAC the AQ in 2011 instead of 2012 if they had waited. Same as 2005 when Thomas More dropped us late to join the PAC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on April 16, 2009, 07:36:15 PM
new 2009 Huntingdon schedule...looks to be tough:
9/5 Maryville                        Maryville, Tenn. 12:30 p.m.
9/12 Faulkner                      Samford Stadium 1 p.m.
9/19 Wisconsin-Oshkosh     Oshkosh, Wisc. Noon  :-[
9/26 Louisiana Co.               Samford Stadium 1 p.m.
10/10 Millsaps                      Samford Stadium 1 p.m.  :-\
10/17 Westminster              Fulton, Mo. Noon
10/24 Greenville                   Samford Stadium 1 p.m.
10/31 LaGrange                   Samford Stadium 1 p.m.  :(
11/7 Birmingham-Southern  Birmingham, Ala. 1:30 p.m. 
11/12 South Alabama          Mobile, Ala. 6 p.m.
  >:(

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on April 16, 2009, 11:25:30 PM
I like the 1 p.m. starts for the home games. More time for tailgating.    :)


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 16, 2009, 11:28:34 PM
I hope that the committee recognizes the challenges that Huntingdon and LaGrange face with the last minute cancellations.

That is five in-region games with two more games that were "in-region" when "the contract was signed".
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 17, 2009, 12:26:26 PM
Ralph

Wesley only has 5 DIII opponents so the Lagrange game could be an elimination game for both
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on April 17, 2009, 12:40:17 PM
Huntingdon did a nice job putting together a solid schedule considering the geographic and short notice challenges.  Some interesting games in there.

Good to see Del Val will play Wesley again.  The games have been very competitive the last two years and I know Wes was hurting for regional D3 opponents.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on April 18, 2009, 01:19:26 PM
LaGrange College Football 2009


Date           Opponent                           Location          
Sept. 5    BIRMINGHAM-SOUTHERN   LaGrange        
Sept. 12    Shorter (NAIA)           Rome, Ga.
Sept. 19    MARYVILLE                   LaGrange          
Sept. 26    WESLEY                           LaGrange          
Oct. 3    Lincoln (D-II)           Jefferson City, Mo.    
Oct. 10    * MacMURRAY                   LaGrange            
Oct. 17    * Eureka                            Eureka, Ill.    
Oct. 24    * # WESTMINSTER            LaGrange   
Oct. 31    * Huntingdon                    Montgomery, Ala.    
Nov. 7    * Greenville                   Greenville, Ill.

* former SLIAC  member

All games 1 p.m. local time except for Huntingdon which is Noon CST
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on April 18, 2009, 04:32:55 PM
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on April 18, 2009, 01:19:26 PM
LaGrange College Football 2009


Date           Opponent                           Location          
Sept. 5    BIRMINGHAM-SOUTHERN   LaGrange        
Sept. 12    Shorter (NAIA)           Rome, Ga.
Sept. 19    MARYVILLE                   LaGrange          
Sept. 26    WESLEY                           LaGrange          
Oct. 3    Lincoln (D-II)           Jefferson City, Mo.    
Oct. 10    * MacMURRAY                   LaGrange            
Oct. 17    * Eureka                            Eureka, Ill.    
Oct. 24    * # WESTMINSTER            LaGrange   
Oct. 31    * Huntingdon                    Montgomery, Ala.    
Nov. 7    * Greenville                   Greenville, Ill.

* former SLIAC  member

All games 1 p.m. local time except for Huntingdon which is Noon CST
HC's website has it listed as 1 p.m. CST.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on April 20, 2009, 01:46:56 PM
It probably is 1 p.m. Central Time. I'd go with the HC website. In the LC announcement of the new schedule it has 1 p.m. CST, but the schedule on the links has the other time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on April 20, 2009, 03:46:54 PM
Before last year our home games were always at 1 pm. Last year they were all at noon because of the SLIAC and travel involved, even the non-conf, I assume, because of wanting to have the same routine at the same time every home game. With no SLIAC, I guess we're back to playing them when we want to.



Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on April 22, 2009, 09:12:57 AM
What's a SLIAC? ;) :o ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 22, 2009, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on April 22, 2009, 09:12:57 AM
What's a SLIAC? ;) :o ::)

St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

http://www.sliac.org/

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on April 22, 2009, 11:31:40 PM
the question Forgottenman asked was "what's a SLIAC" ?

... the answer is: a conference that cut and ran from 2 schools that straddle the Hooch (Chattahoochee River)  ...that being  LC and HC

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on April 23, 2009, 01:05:08 PM
Quote from: Teamski on April 22, 2009, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on April 22, 2009, 09:12:57 AM
What's a SLIAC? ;) :o ::)

St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

http://www.sliac.org/

-Ski

Thanks Ski. I was actually being facetious though.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 24, 2009, 06:52:56 PM
Oh..... ;) 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 26, 2009, 09:53:29 PM
Congrats to Wesley's Larry Beavers who signed with the Carolina Panthers after the draft!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 27, 2009, 03:25:34 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 26, 2009, 09:53:29 PM
Congrats to Wesley's Larry Beavers who signed with the Carolina Panthers after the draft!!!

Sweetness!  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BTEXPRESS on April 28, 2009, 02:28:21 PM
WESLEY FANS, after watching Larry Beavers for the past four years, what do you think his chances are to make the Panthers roster? Does he have a realistic chance? It is always exciting when someone you know and have followed has a shot at the big time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 28, 2009, 05:42:31 PM
Here's a little blurb from the Carolina Panthers
http://www.reflector.com/news/state/panthers-ink-22-including-penn-states-cadogan-573717.html
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 30, 2009, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: BTEXPRESS on April 28, 2009, 02:28:21 PM
WESLEY FANS, after watching Larry Beavers for the past four years, what do you think his chances are to make the Panthers roster? Does he have a realistic chance? It is always exciting when someone you know and have followed has a shot at the big time.

He's small, but damn quick.  That will be his ace in the hole if he is going to succeed in the NFL.   Here's hoping!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on April 30, 2009, 09:48:43 PM

Wesley fans,

Congrats to Larry Beavers.He will make it in the NFL as a return specialist, and a damned good one,

sin  the opinion of this old Mule.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on May 01, 2009, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: muledaddy on April 30, 2009, 09:48:43 PM

Wesley fans,

Congrats to Larry Beavers.He will make it in the NFL as a return specialist, and a damned good one,

sin  the opinion of this old Mule.

I'm hoping we have another Desmond Howard!  Howard was small, but man, he could return the ball!  It landed him the Superbowl XXXI MVP for his punt and kick-off return yardage. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on May 01, 2009, 01:07:01 PM
Quote from: Teamski on May 01, 2009, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: muledaddy on April 30, 2009, 09:48:43 PM

Wesley fans,

Congrats to Larry Beavers.He will make it in the NFL as a return specialist, and a damned good one,

sin  the opinion of this old Mule.

I'm hoping we have another Desmond Howard!  Howard was small, but man, he could return the ball!  It landed him the Superbowl XXXI MVP for his punt and kick-off return yardage. 

-Ski

Also his picture on the cover of Sports Illustrated not looking down the field where he was running but up at the Jumbotron to see how close the defenders were to him.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on May 04, 2009, 12:06:08 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 16, 2009, 11:28:34 PM
I hope that the committee recognizes the challenges that Huntingdon and LaGrange face with the last minute cancellations.

That is five in-region games with two more games that were "in-region" when "the contract was signed".

I think they will be reasonable.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on May 12, 2009, 12:07:31 PM
Head football coach Todd Mooney has announced changes to the LaGrange College 2009 football schedule. There are two time changes for the Shorter and Eureka games and the Panthers' game with Greenville is now scheduled for Nov. 14.

http://www.lagrange.edu/athletics/football/schedule.htm
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AF4 on May 13, 2009, 01:46:26 PM
yall will beat Shorter this year, my wife's family is from the Rome area (i'm from Dallas,Ga) and we have been following them

i feel comfortable that yall will knock them out

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on May 14, 2009, 12:54:28 PM
Quote from: AF4 on May 13, 2009, 01:46:26 PM
yall will beat Shorter this year, my wife's family is from the Rome area (i'm from Dallas,Ga) and we have been following them

i feel comfortable that yall will knock them out

keep the faith

It would be nice. The team has come a long way from the blowouts they endured the first two seasons. An evening game will be a nice change of pace too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on May 16, 2009, 10:01:26 AM
Getting back after a winter hiatus....How is the ACFC shaping up this year? In particular how 'bout dem Gulls? Reloading or rebuilding this year? Lost the QB.....any body ready to take over the option? I notice no night games, that is a shame, the atmosphere was really good last year for the Geneva game. What is the reason there are so few night games in D3? More and more facilities have lights...there must be a reason, because it is not just @ SU.
-GO Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 16, 2009, 10:44:08 AM
SU
 
Welcome back..  Return travel might have something to do with lack of night games. And some coaches just don't like them because it breaks the routine.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on May 27, 2009, 12:14:48 PM
Kinda quiet around here.  Does anybody know the spring practice schedule for Wesley?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 29, 2009, 04:35:54 PM
Article about Larry Beavers


http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=191282930316&h=LDH5g&u=CCnMl&ref=nf
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on May 29, 2009, 10:37:09 PM
The Sporting News College Football Guide is out. Wesley is ranked 15th in their preseason rankings. The Gulls get a mention as a team to watch in the East. Wolverine tackle Matt Ferguson is on the preseason All-American team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on June 01, 2009, 10:40:45 PM
Quote from: Conrad on May 29, 2009, 10:37:09 PM
The Sporting News College Football Guide is out. Wesley is ranked 15th in their preseason rankings. The Gulls get a mention as a team to watch in the East. Wolverine tackle Matt Ferguson is on the preseason All-American team.

While not as good as #3 from last year, you still can't complain with 15th.  Wesley now has some elbow room to move up!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on June 01, 2009, 10:45:28 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 29, 2009, 04:35:54 PM
Article about Larry Beavers


http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=191282930316&h=LDH5g&u=CCnMl&ref=nf

Great article!  I will definately have to hit some of the NFL network Panthers Pre-season games!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 02, 2009, 05:51:57 PM
Here's an article about Moises Fokou who played one year for Frostburg before transfering to Maryland and was draft this year by the Eagles .

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/columnists/20090529_Sam_Donnellon__Eagles__seventh-round_pick_Fokou_easy_to_root_for.html 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 09, 2009, 09:04:27 AM
I am not sure what occurs more rapidly.  The shifting of the tectonic plates, or the Capital AC sponsoring football.

Frostburg to join the CAC.  That is three teams.

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2009/06/08/frostburg-takes-cacs-offer.html

When do we hear from Stevenson on football?


EDIT: Maybe watching a pot boil is a better analogy than tectonic plates...

This is pure speculation, but  I think that  the CAC sponsoring football happens, and CNU and Shenandoah will be in the mix somehow.

To get the AQ, does Hood add football?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 09, 2009, 05:00:47 PM
Ralph

You are right!! I thought that Frostburg had applied last year to the CAC. But I digress.

I thought that the meeting was supposed to take place in May  at Stevenson regaurding football. I google every few days and nothing!

The fly in the ointment is Gallaudet.. They are leaving the CAC!!!! They wouldn't win many games but it would have added a team to schedule and would have helped with the AQ process. 



http://www.cacsports.com/general_releases/gen0809/CACaddsFrostburgSt


No mention of Stevenson adding football
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 09, 2009, 05:33:23 PM
Larry Beavers kick off and punt retunrs are on u-tube 5 mins of fun to watch!!! and also his unofficial 4.28/ 40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAW-QyEKvGc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8eoPuVGt8E
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 09, 2009, 05:34:31 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on June 09, 2009, 05:00:47 PM
Ralph

You are right!! I thought that Frostburg had applied last year to the CAC. But I digress.

I thought that the meeting was supposed to take place in May  at Stevenson regaurding football. I google every few days and nothing!

The fly in the ointment is Gallaudet.. They are leaving the CAC!!!! They wouldn't win many games but it would have added a team to schedule and would have helped with the AQ process. 

http://www.cacsports.com/general_releases/gen0809/CACaddsFrostburgSt

No mention of Stevenson adding football
And Gallaudet has not fielded a team every year.

That does not build confidence among the affiliates.  I think that the CAC is a stronger football Pool A prospect without Gallaudet.  And I believe that Gallaudet has more football success in the NAC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 09, 2009, 05:47:21 PM
For you Wesley fans another article on Larry

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20090609/SPORTS02/906090339/1002/SPORTS
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 10, 2009, 06:08:10 PM
I wonder if the ACFC  becomes the CAC football conference ( now that Frostburg has joined)and NNA becomes an associate member.  ??? Especially if Stevenson picks up football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on June 15, 2009, 07:09:02 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on June 10, 2009, 06:08:10 PM
I wonder if the ACFC  becomes the CAC football conference ( now that Frostburg has joined)and NNA becomes an associate member.  ??? Especially if Stevenson picks up football.


IIRC, Coach Drass had mentioned some rumored CAC action, so I have a feeling that it is just a matter of time when the ACFC ceases to exist.  The writing has been on the wall for quite a while now.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on June 27, 2009, 08:44:38 AM
Stevenson is adding football in 2010. I think we will have the making of a CAC football conference soon. Great news for Salisbury, Wesley, and Frostburg. Stevenson should be able to have a decent team in a few years and make for conference full of rivals.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-sp.stevenson27jun27,0,230361.story
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on June 27, 2009, 08:57:29 AM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on June 27, 2009, 08:44:38 AM
Stevenson is adding football in 2010. I think we will have the making of a CAC football conference soon. Great news for Salisbury, Wesley, and Frostburg. Stevenson should be able to have a decent team in a few years and make for conference full of rivals.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-sp.stevenson27jun27,0,230361.story


Ahhhhh.... Good news indeed!!  Thanks for the heads-up.  It looks like a very bright future for some Mid-Atlantic teams!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 27, 2009, 12:27:56 PM
+1 K for Big Toe for finding this story!!! The CAC hasn' t broken it yet but it is great news for the future of the conference be it either the ACFC or the CAC.... Maybe this will have a snow ball effect , Shenandoah maybe??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on June 27, 2009, 03:41:44 PM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on June 27, 2009, 08:44:38 AM
Stevenson is adding football in 2010. I think we will have the making of a CAC football conference soon. Great news for Salisbury, Wesley, and Frostburg. Stevenson should be able to have a decent team in a few years and make for conference full of rivals.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-sp.stevenson27jun27,0,230361.story


Not to be a wet blanket here, but given Stevenson's proximity to Hopkins and McDaniel (and Gettysburg) it would make just as much sense for them to try and join the Centennial Conference. Dickinson and F&M are both closer than Frostburg and Salisbury, and even Moravian, Muhlenberg and Juniata aren't significantly farther. Just something to keep in mind.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 27, 2009, 09:07:23 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on June 27, 2009, 03:41:44 PM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on June 27, 2009, 08:44:38 AM
Stevenson is adding football in 2010. I think we will have the making of a CAC football conference soon. Great news for Salisbury, Wesley, and Frostburg. Stevenson should be able to have a decent team in a few years and make for conference full of rivals.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-sp.stevenson27jun27,0,230361.story


Not to be a wet blanket here, but given Stevenson's proximity to Hopkins and McDaniel (and Gettysburg) it would make just as much sense for them to try and join the Centennial Conference. Dickinson and F&M are both closer than Frostburg and Salisbury, and even Moravian, Muhlenberg and Juniata aren't significantly farther. Just something to keep in mind.
I really wonder if the members of the Centennial Conference consider Stevenson as a "peer-institution" with the "same mission and vision".

Besides, the Centennial will have 10 football playing members when Susquehanna affiliates.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on June 27, 2009, 09:53:33 PM
Stevenson is already in the CAC in all other sports just like Salisbury, Wesley, and soon to be Frostburg. So, it would be natural for them to form a football CAC conference.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 27, 2009, 10:10:38 PM
I agree BigToe. I would like to see NNA as an affiliate member for football. They have been loyal to the ACFC and are an original member. You stioll need 3 more teams to get an A bid going though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on June 28, 2009, 09:09:30 AM
So, am I correct in that the conference would need 7 teams for an AQ? Maybe the CAC could convince some other schools to pick up football as well. Or, another school, or schools, joins the conference as football only. Who knows, but it is encouraging for schools like Salisbury and Wesley who have trouble filling out their schedule each year.

I also would like to see NNA stay in the conference as an affiliate member, those guys deserve it.

Stevenson is not a "peer institution," with the Centennial Conference schools. They are trying to build up enrollment and aren't really selective about admissions at this time. Which is why they won't have much trouble building up the program quickly. 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 28, 2009, 09:16:05 AM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on June 28, 2009, 09:09:30 AM
So, am I correct in that the conference would need 7 teams for an AQ? Maybe the CAC could convince some other schools to pick up football as well. Or, another school, or schools, joins the conference as football only. Who knows, but it is encouraging for schools like Salisbury and Wesley who have trouble filling out their schedule each year.

I also would like to see NNA stay in the conference as an affiliate member, those guys deserve it.

Stevenson is not a "peer institution," with the Centennial Conference schools. They are trying to build up enrollment and aren't really selective about admissions at this time. Which is why they won't have much trouble building up the program quickly. 
Yes.  (Thanks for the link to the article.  +1!)

You need three more teams not counting NNA to earn a Pool A bid. 

The link to an article on the ODAC board says that Shenandoah is going to the ODAC.

I wondered about CNU with the travel that they already have in the USAC.

Were CNU to join the Capital, then you still need 2 affiliates.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on June 28, 2009, 11:48:10 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 27, 2009, 09:07:23 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on June 27, 2009, 03:41:44 PM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on June 27, 2009, 08:44:38 AM
Stevenson is adding football in 2010. I think we will have the making of a CAC football conference soon. Great news for Salisbury, Wesley, and Frostburg. Stevenson should be able to have a decent team in a few years and make for conference full of rivals.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-sp.stevenson27jun27,0,230361.story


Not to be a wet blanket here, but given Stevenson's proximity to Hopkins and McDaniel (and Gettysburg) it would make just as much sense for them to try and join the Centennial Conference. Dickinson and F&M are both closer than Frostburg and Salisbury, and even Moravian, Muhlenberg and Juniata aren't significantly farther. Just something to keep in mind.
I really wonder if the members of the Centennial Conference consider Stevenson as a "peer-institution" with the "same mission and vision".

Besides, the Centennial will have 10 football playing members when Susquehanna affiliates.

Thanks, Ralph. I always forget that "peer institution" aspect of the process and tend to focus on ease of travel and keeping costs in line. I need to remember that there's more to it.  :-[
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 28, 2009, 12:58:41 PM
And it's good to note that other sports exist besides football. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on June 30, 2009, 12:15:59 PM
Now that it's official, what teams do you think could join the CAC teams to get it up to the 7 needed for an automatic bid?  Good news either way.  It's great to get football in the CAC.

 As mentioned above, I hope NNA gets a slot in the conference.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 30, 2009, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: Teamski on June 30, 2009, 12:15:59 PM
Now that it's official, what teams do you think could join the CAC teams to get it up to the 7 needed for an automatic bid?  Good news either way.  It's great to get football in the CAC.

 As mentioned above, I hope NNA gets a slot in the conference.

-Ski
I cannot think of any teams that might affiliate with the CAC.

Who might leave their current conference and join the CAC?

Shenandoah wants to join the ODAC.  We have heard nothing about CNU moving to the Capital, and they are next closest football playing team.

The NJAC already has an AQ and needs affiliates to maintain it.

The Centennial is sitting pretty.

The MAC has its AQ and a comfortable conference size.

The USA South has just picked up three football schools in the GSAC to solidify its AQ.

I think the ultimate question is what three teams might add football to make the requisite seven?

Are any schools in the Colonial States AC looking to add football and would fit as an affiliate in the Capital for football?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on June 30, 2009, 03:04:03 PM
Thanks for the run-down Ralph.  I guess the CAC will be in the building mode for the years to come.

I'm thrilled to see Wesley is ranked 11th in the USA Today poll with Salisbury at 24.  Something to build on, hehehe....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 10, 2009, 05:53:04 PM
This was on the E8 board today!!!Not promisinfg for a CAC football conference

Quote from: sjfcards on Today at 09:40:14 am
Hopefully the E8 announces a football addition soon. I don't know if they are having trouble finding a team to replace norwich, or if this Salisbury/Frostburg thing is going to pan out, but it seems like there would be a team out there somewhere that would need/want to join a conference.

On Monday the E8 will announce that Frostburg and Salisbury are joining as football-only members for the 2011 season.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 10, 2009, 06:45:21 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 10, 2009, 05:53:04 PM
This was on the E8 board today!!!Not promisinfg for a CAC football conference

QuoteQuote from: sjfcards on Today at 09:40:14 am
Hopefully the E8 announces a football addition soon. I don't know if they are having trouble finding a team to replace norwich, or if this Salisbury/Frostburg thing is going to pan out, but it seems like there would be a team out there somewhere that would need/want to join a conference.

On Monday the E8 will announce that Frostburg and Salisbury are joining as football-only members for the 2011 season.

Discuss.
Frostburg and Salisbury have been brought in as "temps from the agency" to preserve the Pool A bid for the E8 and to provide some mid-to-late season games for the conference.  That is the ol' "three" non-conference games vs "five" issue.  When I wondered about the "pre-nuptial" that the E8 signed with FSU and SSU (  ;D ) I wondered how long that contract might last.  The E8 needs Springfield as an affiliate, too.

The non-conference game issue was why the ODAC said that it permitted the affiliation of Shenandoah, i.e., four non-conference games versus three plus a balanced 8-team conference.

When you look at who is out there, as in my previous post, there is no one out there who doesn't have an affiliation.  You will need about 3 more teams to add football in the Mid-Atlantic Region to fill the conference.

Stevenson can fill its schedule if it wishes to travel.

Salisbury and Frostburg can keep their Wesley and Stevenson games and play the 7 conference games in the E8.

Unfortunately, it is Wesley that is left in the cold.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on July 11, 2009, 11:08:29 AM
Ralph Turner (hero) said:"The USA South has just picked up three football schools in the GSAC to solidify its AQ."

is this for real or a supposition ?

old computer gone.... and been laying on my back a few wks..trying to walller around like a turtle as i adapt to my brand new bionic-titanium hip...i have been out of pocket

keep the faith (formerly AF4)

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 11, 2009, 11:35:15 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on July 11, 2009, 11:08:29 AM
Ralph Turner (hero) said:"The USA South has just picked up three football schools in the GSAC to solidify its AQ."

is this for real or a supposition ?

old computer gone.... and been laying on my back a few wks..trying to walller around like a turtle as i adapt to my brand new bionic-titanium hip...i have been out of pocket

keep the faith (formerly AF4)


Hello AF4,

Sorry that you had to sign on with a new password.  Welcome back.  +1 karma to get you started.

The reporting that we are getting on the USA South GSAC deal is coming out of Maryville.  It appears spotty in details, but only because the final details may not yet be inked.  The Daily Times seems to be on top of the story.

Shenandoah's departure is pushing the GSAC/USA South deal, and I think that the deal will be done to prevent losing the men's AQ in the USA South.  Keeping Women's 2 AQ's in the USA South and the GSAC is also critical.  I like the way that this affiliation/merger seems to be rolling out.

The financial instability at Greensboro is another worrisome feature for the USA South.  That conference needs men's programs badly, and the GSAC will provide them.

Congratulations on the new hip!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on July 11, 2009, 11:47:30 AM
AF4,
Good to hear from you old buddy. I heard you were laid up getting a new set of wheels. I'm sure you'll be up and about in no time.
From what I hear this GSAC/USAC merger just has some details to be worked out to be finalized. Hopefully we will hear something soon.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on July 11, 2009, 12:13:09 PM
brother Hawks88 & Ralph (Guru)

i pray yall r well

the boy is home, moving sheep and hay around (as i am worthless)

i believe this is tooo logical...tooo good to work out

it makes too much since to fold gsac into usa south for many sports...tennis-baseball GOLF etc

yall keep the faith

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on July 11, 2009, 04:50:59 PM
AF4/DGPugh

Here are more good wishes for your speedy recovery.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on July 12, 2009, 12:16:34 AM
Just want to add my best wishes too DG. Welcome back to the boards.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on July 12, 2009, 12:49:32 PM
HSC Tiger, roocru, Ralph, Hawks...thanks

i am (mentally ) climbing the walls...only 10d post op, but i am just tooo impatient...i do not like the 'walker', am hoping that around july 20 i can graduate to a cane would like

i suspect it will b a while before i can get back into a canoe on the great river (Alabama river)

yall keep the faith and have a great week
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 12, 2009, 07:44:24 PM
I wonder if Frostburg  and Salisbury keeps their south title or do they become east now???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 12, 2009, 08:02:14 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 12, 2009, 07:44:24 PM
I wonder if Frostburg  and Salisbury keeps their south title or do they become east now???
It depends what the AD's and the conference want to do.

If I were they, I would just add the designation to the E8 as a multi-region conference (until/when/if  the legislation that considers all conference games as in-region games passes.  I don't know where that proposed legislation stands.)

South Region football
Administrative Region #1
200-mile radius to sweep into PA
E8 conference.

They can get 10 in-region games easily.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 12, 2009, 09:38:17 PM
Now we have to wait and see what happens with Wesley. I just find it hard to believe that Salisbury would go with out Wesley. Frostburg I am not so suprised about!! The held the original ACFC up for a few years to begin with..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 13, 2009, 04:25:21 PM
Salisbury and Frostburg are leaving the ACFC. I guess Wesley becomes and true Independent again after next season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on July 13, 2009, 05:29:04 PM
yep.  things will become more interesting
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 13, 2009, 05:53:12 PM
Quote from: nnasid on July 13, 2009, 05:29:04 PM
yep.  things will become more interesting

Sid

That seems to be an open ended cliff hanger??? ???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on July 13, 2009, 05:59:57 PM
yeah.......it doesn't bode well at all.  We each have our own issues with scheduling, it'll be much more challenging now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on July 13, 2009, 09:39:36 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 13, 2009, 04:25:21 PM
Salisbury and Frostburg are leaving the ACFC. I guess Wesley becomes and true Independent again after next season.

Why not join the NJAC like I have been saying the past (2) years along with Salisbury and let a few Up-State teams join the Up-State Guys. The Private vs State stuff is all BS when it comes to Football. Salibbury is now gone and time for Wesley to join the NJAC and then see how it plays out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 13, 2009, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on July 13, 2009, 09:39:36 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 13, 2009, 04:25:21 PM
Salisbury and Frostburg are leaving the ACFC. I guess Wesley becomes and true Independent again after next season.

Why not join the NJAC like I have been saying the past (2) years along with Salisbury and let a few Up-State teams join the Up-State Guys. The Private vs State stuff is all BS when it comes to Football. Salibbury is now gone and time for Wesley to join the NJAC and then see how it plays out.

Because I understand that the NJAC has roster limits and Wesley has squads that are larger than the NJAC roster limit.

That is a deal-breaker for Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bigtoe75 on July 14, 2009, 07:51:52 AM
Wow, I didn't see that coming at all. I am surprised that SU left without Wesley as well and the travel that will be involved. With most of the Empire 8 is in the north, that will make for some long road trips. It does solve a lot of scheduling problems for SU and they now have a chance at an AQ. Right now the Gulls need to virtually go undefeated just to make the playoffs. I would still rather see a CAC conference in the future. Does this make Salisbury an East region team now?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 14, 2009, 08:34:56 AM
Quote from: Bigtoe75 on July 14, 2009, 07:51:52 AM
Wow, I didn't see that coming at all.  I am surprised that SU left without Wesley as well and the travel that will be involved. With most of the Empire 8 is in the north, that will make for some long road trips. It does solve a lot of scheduling problems for SU and they now have a chance at an AQ. Right now the Gulls need to virtually go undefeated just to make the playoffs. I would still rather see a CAC conference in the future. Does this make Salisbury an East region team now?

We don't know the details of the length of the affiliation for Salisbury and Frostburg.

The Capital AC can offer football anytime they want and the then FSU and Salisbury get "called home" altho' they might have "dual" membership" as a current 10-game schedule will permit.

Who is rushing to add football as a sport?  Hood?  Stt Mary's MD?  York PA?  Mary Washington?

We have not heard of Elmira or Stevens adding football.

Salisbury can petition to become an East Region team if they wish, but I think that they have more in-region opponents by staying a South Region team and the E8 appealing to become a multi-region conference.  (A better solution is for D-III to pass legislation that makes all conference games in-region.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on July 15, 2009, 09:50:11 AM
 :o >:(  You have got to be kidding me!!!!  Where did that come from?!?!  I would love to know what spurned the move to Empire 8!!  This really sux!!   :-\

Wow, things changed just like that.....

I mean, come on!!!   Now they get to enjoy traveling up to NY all of the time....... As mentioned, there has to be more to the story.  

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: K-Mack on July 15, 2009, 01:16:58 PM
I'm curious to hear how Wesley likes the Salisbury/Frostburg move ... just skimmed the comments so far. Sounds like it was a stunner.

I thought Frostburg would fit with the PAC to give it an even 10 and Wesley/Salisbury should go E8, but maybe they didn't want a superleague, or Wesley has other ideas.

The E8, I could see why it would not be amenable actually ... why would Salisbury want to travel all that way? Not that Wesley doesn't have to travel as an independent.

One indy looking for midseason games is a lot different than four trying to get games once conference play begins.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: K-Mack on July 15, 2009, 01:35:53 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 13, 2009, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on July 13, 2009, 09:39:36 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 13, 2009, 04:25:21 PM
Salisbury and Frostburg are leaving the ACFC. I guess Wesley becomes and true Independent again after next season.

Why not join the NJAC like I have been saying the past (2) years along with Salisbury and let a few Up-State teams join the Up-State Guys. The Private vs State stuff is all BS when it comes to Football. Salibbury is now gone and time for Wesley to join the NJAC and then see how it plays out.

Because I understand that the NJAC has roster limits and Wesley has squads that are larger than the NJAC roster limit.

That is a deal-breaker for Wesley.

Your sources must be well-placed!

I understand Wesley has 120+ on its football team ... and that's not even with me checking the Kickoff number last year. Could be much more, like 50, but lets say its 20 ... that's enrolled male 20 students brought in to balance out the female enrollment, times $17,700 per year.

So joining a league with a 100-player roster limit is going to cost $354,000 at a minimum, plus add the conundrum of how to deal with the players above 100 currently enrolled, who were recruited believing there were no cuts ... and so on.

Might have a competitive effect too.

I'll ask the true sources before I speculate more, but the cost of travel and the hassle of scheduling for an independent possibly pales in comparison to those costs and headaches.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 15, 2009, 04:22:48 PM
K-Mack

I too am waiting to see what happens next!! I was as suprised that Salisbury went without Wesley as well. Wickfans comments on the E8 board have been thrown out there before and proved wrong. I think one only has to look at the Larry Beavers situation a few years ago  to see that players that down get the grades don't play!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on July 15, 2009, 06:49:21 PM
the writing was on the wall.  wesley was going to have to find a place that they fit in or go independent, which sucks for scheduling purposes.  i find it hard to believe that they cant find a conference that they fit with for football.  salisbury is taking the easy (smart) way out, join a conference for football only to make scheduling easier and in the process a chance at an auto qualifier to boot.  is wesley so much different then other D3 schools that they cant fit into a conference?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on July 15, 2009, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on July 15, 2009, 06:49:21 PM
the writing was on the wall.  wesley was going to have to find a place that they fit in or go independent, which sucks for scheduling purposes.  i find it hard to believe that they cant find a conference that they fit with for football.  salisbury is taking the easy (smart) way out, join a conference for football only to make scheduling easier and in the process a chance at an auto qualifier to boot.  is wesley so much different then other D3 schools that they cant fit into a conference?

Yeah ... their football team seems to be a whole lot better.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on July 15, 2009, 11:22:12 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on July 15, 2009, 06:49:21 PM
the writing was on the wall.  wesley was going to have to find a place that they fit in or go independent, which sucks for scheduling purposes.  i find it hard to believe that they cant find a conference that they fit with for football.  salisbury is taking the easy (smart) way out, join a conference for football only to make scheduling easier and in the process a chance at an auto qualifier to boot.  is wesley so much different then other D3 schools that they cant fit into a conference?

That was what I thought was the idea with them joining the CAC.....  Well, one thing is true, Wesley has essentially been independant for the last two years.  This, of course, will not help whatsoever.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 17, 2009, 04:27:44 PM
I had posted this in the general board area

  Here is an interesting NCAA vote that could impact Wesley as well as Delaware and Delaware st. come playoff time. 

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20090716/NEWS02/907160365/1002/SPORTS&referrer=NEWSFRONTCAROUSEL
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on July 17, 2009, 08:50:16 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 17, 2009, 04:27:44 PM
I had posted this in the general board area

  Here is an interesting NCAA vote that could impact Wesley as well as Delaware and Delaware st. come playoff time. 

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20090716/NEWS02/907160365/1002/SPORTS&referrer=NEWSFRONTCAROUSEL

PA - When I followed Wesley in 2000 and 2001 they were Independent and it still has not changed in 2009. I guess they are destined to be an Independent. That being said, Drass has done a great job. Good Luck in 2009. Maybe we can sign a home and home between Montclair and Wesley.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on July 18, 2009, 08:46:38 AM
Quote from: rams1102 on July 17, 2009, 08:50:16 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 17, 2009, 04:27:44 PM
I had posted this in the general board area

  Here is an interesting NCAA vote that could impact Wesley as well as Delaware and Delaware st. come playoff time. 

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20090716/NEWS02/907160365/1002/SPORTS&referrer=NEWSFRONTCAROUSEL

PA - When I followed Wesley in 2000 and 2001 they were Independent and it still has not changed in 2009. I guess they are destined to be an Independent. That being said, Drass has done a great job. Good Luck in 2009. Maybe we can sign a home and home between Montclair and Wesley.  ;)


I'd love to see that.  Wesley has a loss to avenge.   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 18, 2009, 01:59:04 PM
Just a thought...

The SUNY-Morrisville is scheduled to become a full D3 member this season and may join the NEAC.  Its affiliation with the NJAC may come under review at that time.

A better conference for its young football program may be the new ECFC.  If Morrisville moves to the ECFC, that will give an open date in a 9-team NJAC conference schedule that Wesley might fill.  How many in-region games that might provide would be up for consideration.  As currently constituted, only the "New York" NJAC games would not be "in-region".

For that matter, Stevenson might do better in the ECFC in its first 3-4 years until the Capital AC could grow some more.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 18, 2009, 02:55:50 PM
Ralph

That would be an awful lot of long bus trips for Stevenson.. I am sure that there will be D three teams locally salivating to play them !!!  Plus it may depend on who gets the head coaching position! I know a few who went after the Frostburg job. But I don't know if they would be interested in starting a new program.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 18, 2009, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 18, 2009, 02:55:50 PM
Ralph

That would be an awful lot of long bus trips for Stevenson.. I am sure that there will be D three teams locally salivating to play them !!!  Plus it may depend on who gets the head coaching position! I know a few who went after the Frostburg job. But I don't know if they would be interested in starting a new program.
I know that there will be a few teams wanting to play them, but a team must have an open date from conference play on the weekend that Stevenson is available.

The problem that an independent has, as you well know, is that playing dates fall into line for conference teams beginning about the fourth week, (as early as the third weekend in the OAC and the ASC).  After that weekend, the only open dates are the schools from odd-numbered conferences.

Shenandoah almost has a ready-made ODAC schedule by just filling in the open dates in conference play.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on July 19, 2009, 02:00:58 AM
I loved going to Salisbury football games against the likes of Apprentice, Frostburg, CNU and Wesley. I know this is a rant, but there is no way I am driving or flying up to upstate NY to see them and I doubt many of the Salisbury and FSU faithful are going to go up there either. I hope the AD there knows what he is doing with this Evil Empire 8 (sorry....just had to make a slight against the NY Yankees  :-X ) I have heard some scuttlebutt that the reason was for the AQ for the conference...but is this the right way to go about it? Joining a conference that you have NOTHING in common with in terms of any natural rival other than one other school that also left a defunct conference? Why coulnd't SU and FSU get the new Villa Julie/Stevens football team into the AFCA and some other DIII schools from VA? SU and FSU are mid-atlantic/southeastern teams. Also.. what becomes of Wesley and Apprentice now and the rivalry with Salisbury?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 19, 2009, 02:37:01 PM
Quote from: luvapontiac on July 19, 2009, 02:00:58 AM
I loved going to Salisbury football games against the likes of Apprentice, Frostburg, CNU and Wesley. I know this is a rant, but there is no way I am driving or flying up to upstate NY to see them and I doubt many of the Salisbury and FSU faithful are going to go up there either. I hope the AD there knows what he is doing with this Evil Empire 8 (sorry....just had to make a slight against the NY Yankees  :-X ) I have heard some scuttlebutt that the reason was for the AQ for the conference...but is this the right way to go about it? Joining a conference that you have NOTHING in common with in terms of any natural rival other than one other school that also left a defunct conference? Why coulnd't SU and FSU get the new Villa Julie/Stevens football team into the AFCA and some other DIII schools from VA? SU and FSU are mid-atlantic/southeastern teams. Also.. what becomes of Wesley and Apprentice now and the rivalry with Salisbury?

Why?  Because there aren't teams available to do that.   ;)

Besides, all of the other teams in the area are happy with where they are now.

Salisbury has a ready made schedule.  The Regents Cup game in Annapolis is intact, but as a conference game now.  There are 6 other E8 games to fill those October and early November dates.  The Salisbury schedule will include Capital members Stevenson and Wesley in the early part of the season, and now the team just needs to fill the last date with NNA.

No more D-II Pace or Lake Erie or the Liberty League's Union NY, as in 2008.  You played Brockport and Buffalo State in the ACFC in this decade; they are New York schools.  You played Becker from Leicester MA (a tough 79-20 win) and Morrisville NY in 2007.  St Peter's NJ has given up football.  Chowan has gone to D-2.  There are no other schools.  I am sympathetic to the plight of Wesley, but until someone else disrupts the alignment, e.g., CNU joining the Capital, then this is where it is heading.

I know that this was a rant, but Coach Wood's life just got easier.    :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on July 22, 2009, 04:13:14 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on July 11, 2009, 11:08:29 AM
Ralph Turner (hero) said:"The USA South has just picked up three football schools in the GSAC to solidify its AQ."

is this for real or a supposition ?

old computer gone.... and been laying on my back a few wks..trying to walller around like a turtle as i adapt to my brand new bionic-titanium hip...i have been out of pocket

keep the faith (formerly AF4)

Hope you recover quickly. I had a knee replaced before last season. It's doing well now and I hope you have a good outcome too. See you in Huntingdon later this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on July 22, 2009, 04:28:53 PM
The Forgotten Man - brother of the replaced joints ;D

man... aknee... that looks brutal, i am rehabbing with knee replacements folks ouch >:(

i am getting there slow but sure

look forward to seeing yall (i thank) in Montgomery...we r re-loading...uh...and yall r just maturing... and with a maturing group that whipped us last yr...oh well, hope we can give yall a good game :-[

keep the faith

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on July 23, 2009, 11:49:06 PM
this is semi old news...but i gots to brag Huntingdon had 3 football players (Philip Bailey, Caleb Hartin, & Gary Nelson) inducted into The National Football Foundation & College Hall of Fame's  Hampshire Honor Society.
Qualifications are players from all divisions of NCAA and NAIA who play significantly and graduate with a 3.2 GPA.

A testament to the Program Coach Turk is running at Huntingdon College :)

only 3 other Al schools had any players inducted (B'ham -Southern doesn't have folks qualified as yet , as 2009 will be thier 3rd yr of football - this time), Troy University  (D-1 Sunbelt) had Will Chambless, Samford University (D1AA SoCon)had Mitchell Waters, and UNA (D-2 GSC) had Derrick Chatman.....GREAT JOB :)

a note is that neither Auburn nor the University of Alabama (commonly refered to The tuscaloosa school for the learning impaired) oddly had no scholar athletes so honored (imagine that   ;D )

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on July 30, 2009, 09:42:38 AM
Hi again everybody. Its been a pretty long and depressing offseason for me. As an Indians fan most summers are, only this year our GM is trying to rip out the heart and soul of this team in Victor Martinez, but anyway, the Wesley Football season is always something to look forward to and I hope it will be a long an successful one as well. I heard Wesley has got some new recruits on both ends and that the LB corps shouldnt be a problem. I imagine that the offense will be centered around the QB McSweeny with the loss of Larry Beavers (whos well on his way to making the Carolina Panthers roster).

The first game against Christopher Newport and the last one against Ohio Dominican will definitely be Wesley's toughest games though I think Wesley has the capability to handle them.

Already excited for the season!  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 30, 2009, 04:14:22 PM
Waterboy

Welcome back...  Del Val  LaGrange and Salisbury are all going to be tough games...With only 5 DIII games Wesley is going to have to run the table to get a playoff spot.,
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on July 31, 2009, 09:28:38 AM
Quote from: the waterboy on July 30, 2009, 09:42:38 AM
Hi again everybody. Its been a pretty long and depressing offseason for me. As an Indians fan most summers are, only this year our GM is trying to rip out the heart and soul of this team in Victor Martinez, but anyway, the Wesley Football season is always something to look forward to and I hope it will be a long an successful one as well. I heard Wesley has got some new recruits on both ends and that the LB corps shouldnt be a problem. I imagine that the offense will be centered around the QB McSweeny with the loss of Larry Beavers (whos well on his way to making the Carolina Panthers roster).

The first game against Christopher Newport and the last one against Ohio Dominican will definitely be Wesley's toughest games though I think Wesley has the capability to handle them.

Already excited for the season!  ;D

A warm welcome to the board, indeed!  Trust me, I  think Wesley's offense will do just fine, even without Beavers.  I think the Irish Connection of McSweeney and Mc Andrew will be just as effective as Warrick was with Lanuette.  The Wolverines have another large crop of prospects this year in camp, so the depth will still be there, no doubt.  I agree with PA_wesleyfan that those DIII games are absolutely critical to win this season for Wesley to get that coveted Pool B slot once again.  Anyways, looking forward to seeing you at the games!

-Ski

ps... I'm kinda surprised that no Wesley players made the Pre Seaon DIII team.  I figured Matt Ferguson would be on the list at least.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 31, 2009, 05:14:32 PM
Ski

I think Matt is a fifth year senior and may not have been on DIII's list of possibles. Or he just didn' t get enough love !!!
:)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on August 02, 2009, 11:29:08 AM
Can someone fill me in on what happened with McSweeny and his knee injury in the last game vs UMHB. I dont think it was anything major because nobodys talking about it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on August 18, 2009, 07:25:22 AM
Congrats to Larry Beavers on his first NFL catch last night. Fell asleep waiting for him to get in, but woke up just in time for his catch and run. Didn't see his KO return or punt FC, if anyone finds video, let us know.

He was included in the NFL.com video of the game wrap.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on August 18, 2009, 04:26:50 PM
Quote from: the waterboy on August 02, 2009, 11:29:08 AM
Can someone fill me in on what happened with McSweeny and his knee injury in the last game vs UMHB. I dont think it was anything major because nobodys talking about it.

He's fine.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 18, 2009, 11:09:00 PM
I am really starting to get pumped to see some Wesley action this year!!   :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 18, 2009, 11:34:12 PM
ski

just a little teaser for you.. 6-4  wideout transfer coming in
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 19, 2009, 09:33:02 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 18, 2009, 11:34:12 PM
ski

just a little teaser for you.. 6-4  wideout transfer coming in

Sweet!  Thanks for the heads-up...

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 19, 2009, 05:40:53 PM
 Ski

You haven't been to any practices???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 19, 2009, 05:47:38 PM
Just what you guys need a 6-foot-4 wide out ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 19, 2009, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: nnasid on August 19, 2009, 05:47:38 PM
Just what you guys need a 6-foot-4 wide out ;D

If you are asking why, a 6' 4" wide out is really helpful getting shoulder pads down from the top shelf and maybe a key pass up the middle or two..... ;)  

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 19, 2009, 07:13:43 PM
NNASID

As long as Coach Kobasa doesn't steal him for the bball team!!! Say's he is from good ole Texas on the roster
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 19, 2009, 07:15:50 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 19, 2009, 07:13:43 PM
NNASID

As long as Coach Kobasa doesn't steal him for the bball team!!! Say's he is from good ole Texas on the roster

From what I understand, he has a lot of size in this year's team already.  After loosing Johnson and Martin, it is a definate necessity!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 20, 2009, 06:24:29 PM
Looking forward to the scrimmage between Muhlenberg and Wesley coming up, I believe, this next week at Allentown.  Should be a good test!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 20, 2009, 06:50:56 PM
Quote from: Teamski on August 20, 2009, 06:24:29 PM
Looking forward to the scrimmage between Muhlenberg and Wesley coming up, I believe, this next week at Allentown.  Should be a good test!

-Ski
If I wasn't going away next week I'd go to that!! :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on August 20, 2009, 10:43:22 PM
This says that Huntingdon is possibly adding some sports soon. Just guessing but lacrosse is the first thing that comes to mind or track and/or swimming? Also some tidbits about the football team. Sounds like a couple of promising running backs among the freshmen.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20090820/SPORTS04/908200317/1002

Also, two scrimmages on Saturday; returning players at 10 am and newcomers at 3 pm.
Football is finally almost here!


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: greekgeek on August 21, 2009, 07:24:14 AM

Looking forward to the scrimmage between Muhlenberg and Wesley coming up, I believe, this next week at Allentown.  Should be a good test!

-Ski
Is that this weekend Teamski and what day and time ?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 21, 2009, 11:58:18 AM
Quote from: greekgeek on August 21, 2009, 07:24:14 AM

Looking forward to the scrimmage between Muhlenberg and Wesley coming up, I believe, this next week at Allentown.  Should be a good test!

-Ski
Is that this weekend Teamski and what day and time ?

It's not this weekend.  I'll have to find out when the scrimmage is for sure.  I'm thinking next Friday or Saturday for some reason.

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: greekgeek on August 21, 2009, 03:21:06 PM
Ski, its next thursday the 27th not sure what time but i would think sometime in the morning
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 21, 2009, 10:25:00 PM
Quote from: greekgeek on August 21, 2009, 03:21:06 PM
Ski, its next thursday the 27th not sure what time but i would think sometime in the morning

I meant to check today, darn it.  I doubt it is in the morning since school is in session. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 22, 2009, 02:01:20 PM
The Wesley-Muhlenberg scrimmage will be at 6PM on Thursday. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on August 22, 2009, 08:49:16 PM
Awesome video about Huntingdon's summer strength program. This gets me fired up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9cx7ib43I

Two weeks 'til kickoff!!
Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dlippiel on August 23, 2009, 11:32:21 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 22, 2009, 08:49:16 PM
Awesome video about Huntingdon's summer strength program. This gets me fired up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9cx7ib43I

Two weeks 'til kickoff!!
Go Hawks!

Great video! Looks like players have worked extremely hard in preparation for the season. If that doesn't get one pumped up for the 09 season I don't know what will.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 26, 2009, 07:51:56 PM
Anybody else going to the Muhlenberg-Wesley scrimmage tommorow night?  It's gonna be a long day for me.  School, 2 1/2 hour drive to Allentown, a 4 hour scrimmage, back to Dover and school in the morning.  Whew!  Definately worth it, though!  Wesley is ready.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 26, 2009, 08:41:32 PM
ski

I can't make it. Going away Friday and have commitments in the afternoon that won't give me enough time to drive up.. Should be a good preveiw of some of the talentcoming in .. Interested to here how Krout looks.. And the kid with 4-4 speed  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: greekgeek on August 27, 2009, 07:44:50 AM
Ski, i will be taking the trip to Allentown today, it should be a rebuilding year for The Mules they lost some size but never doubt there coaching, Coach Donnelly always seems to dig deep each year. Winning back to back CC Championships is a great recruiting tool for any School and i'm sure this year will be no different.

Good luck this year Ski

Go Mules !
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 27, 2009, 06:16:54 PM
BRob got a CFL contract

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2009-10/news/20090827_brob
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 28, 2009, 09:14:18 AM
Well, Wesley took the 3 quarter scrimmage 22-7.  Overall, Wesley did ok, but there is definately work that needs to be done.   

Onto Christopher Newport!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 30, 2009, 05:57:18 PM
Quote from: Teamski on August 28, 2009, 09:14:18 AM
Well, Wesley took the 3 quarter scrimmage 22-7.  Overall, Wesley did ok, but there is definately work that needs to be done.   

Onto Christopher Newport!

-Ski

I'm officially an idiot.  I was duly chastised and reminded that there was a touchdown I didn't account for, so the score was actually 29-7.  Duh.....  :-\

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on August 31, 2009, 05:53:50 PM
Good News from the NFL: Former Wesley wideout Larry Beavers, according to the Carolina Panthers team site is now the #1 Punt Returner and the #2 Kick Returner.

Looking forward to Wesley's Opener vs. Christopher Newport.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 31, 2009, 08:32:25 PM
Ski

Shame on you!!!! ;D How dare you miss a TD in a Scrimmage LOL ! I do wonder what you were looking at though o miss it!!! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on August 31, 2009, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: the waterboy on August 31, 2009, 05:53:50 PM
Good News from the NFL: Former Wesley wideout Larry Beavers, according to the Carolina Panthers team site is now the #1 Punt Returner and the #2 Kick Returner.

Looking forward to Wesley's Opener vs. Christopher Newport.

I'll need to revisit the site, and I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but I was at the game on Saturday (vs Ravens) and Beavers never left the bench area. I'd like to see him get more of a shot, since none of the other return men has shown anything special, but most of the local media types have him slated to be among the first cuts tomorrow.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 31, 2009, 09:53:43 PM
Beavers also was moved to # 3 Wideout on one side.. But I don't know if they keep him if one of the other return guys can play on kick coverage teams. Would love to see him get a real chance because he has the tools to be a good pro.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 31, 2009, 10:50:04 PM
Well that sux.  I was really disappointed that he didn't get an ounce of play time in the Ravens game.  Not a good sign..... :'(  You can only hope!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2009, 11:33:44 AM
Ski
The Panthers cut Ryne Robinson who wass competing with Beavers for thepunt return duties so that may be a good sign for Larry!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 01, 2009, 09:47:06 PM
Not much chat about the game this weekend.  Should be a pretty tough game.  CNU coming in with all American running back, not sure what else they have.  Wesley has plenty of questions to answer with all the players gone from last year on both sides of the ball.  Will the O line be as good?  Who is going to catch a pass?  Can the D Line get pressure on the QB?  What will the linebackers look like?  I didn't get to see the scrimmage, but will be in Dover this weekend.  See you at the game Ski, you can find me in the usual spot in the tail gate lot.  Pawesley, you making the game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2009, 09:59:48 PM
Wesleydad
 
Yup!!! Dad  and I are coming down. Probably be hittting  Dover around 11:00
 
   I here this Krout kid is the real deal!!! had over 2000 yrds in JUCO in 2 years.
He is a big wideout.

  Couple of articles on the football site .

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/wesley_press/20090813_dsn

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/wesley_press/20090818_dsn

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/wesley_press/20090820_dsn

 
Doug
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 01, 2009, 10:10:22 PM
Yeah, I'm pumped up for the game, big time!  Wesley has a great team this year, with Ellis Krout (when in doubt, pass to Krout) leading the wide-outs and G Knight and Aaron Jackson are back as well, giving the team it's signature speed.  McAndrew (The Irish Connection) is back at TE and of course McSweeney is good to go for the season.  The defense has Mike Ward returning as well as Marcus Wilson in the secondary.  Another great batch of freshmen are on the team, so I'm really excited about the depth of the roster.  

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on September 01, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
I have tried to pay attention but can't remember the last ruling, can schools from Delaware host playoff games?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2009, 10:58:04 PM
crufootball
Everything is in the courts but the latest is that the only betting that is allowed now as ruled in the courts is parlay betting on pro football only. That would probably clearf the three Delware teams to host playoffs  pending appeals from the state
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: OGUN2K on September 01, 2009, 11:18:36 PM
I wish all players good luck Sat.  But I must warn you, If Wesley haven't  :o been in the weight room, their in for a long day.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 02, 2009, 11:03:40 AM
Quote from: crufootball on September 01, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
I have tried to pay attention but can't remember the last ruling, can schools from Delaware host playoff games?
As of now yes, the Circuit Court shot down single game betting on NCAA games and others. Delaware is working on some sort of sports lottery, that would involve parlay betting on multiple NFL games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 04, 2009, 10:05:52 PM
Hmmmm no new Wesley posters this year!!!!! We'll have to spread the word!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 05, 2009, 12:40:14 AM

Looking forward to a good game today at Wesley.   The D should get a good early test with Ogun. I look for Wesley to show some big play capability. They will miss Pennewells big body in the backfield but McSweeny may get some yards with his legs. Wesley has only lost 2 home games since the new turf was installed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 05, 2009, 08:34:15 AM
pawesley and ski, look me up in the lot.  hope to see you all at the game.  should be a good one.  pawesley, be interesting to see where the big plays come from if they get them.  many questions to be answered today by the new players stepping in.  i think there may be some points scored today, i am not sure how good cnu's defense is.  getting ready to head out shortly.
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Post by: CNU85 on September 05, 2009, 09:42:51 AM
I'll be there Wesleydad........gotta drink a cold one with ya! I'm not sure when I'll get there...game is at 1pm, so maybe around 11 I'll find a parking spot.....I'll look for the #13 jersey. I'll have on a CNU Football hat and polo shirt.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 05, 2009, 06:53:56 PM
cnu85, conrad, and pawesley, good to see you guys again.  teamski, where were you?  I was suprised by several things.  Wesley is very fast on defense, probably the fastest i have seen them in the 6 years that i have watched them.  The d line looks better and the linebackers are quick.  a. benson is a beast, was all over the field today.  i know they got away with having him in the box most of the game because cnu had littel threat of a passing game.  which brings me to my second surpirse, if tunde ogun is an all american back then he better step up his game.  he was either hurt or scared because he ran so tentative that there was no chance he was going to gain yards.  looks like wesley has been able to reload on defense which will make for a good season, but there are still too many drops on offense by the receivers.  you get away with it against teams that you are better than, but they come back to haunt you against the top teams.  they will win most of their games, i will be interested in seeing how the delval game turns out.

if the gap between 9 and 20 is that large than very few teams have a shot at winning into the second round of the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 05, 2009, 07:28:26 PM
Wesleydad, I was at the game, so sorry I missed you.  I did have to pleasure to meet PA_Wesleyfan, though.  :)

What an exclamation mark Wesley put on the game today!  Consistency on both sides of the ball.  The big thing was NO TURNOVERS!!  A lot of work was done in training camp to keep the ball off the ground, and it really showed.  I was really impressed.  The Defense did a great job keeping the Captains out of the endzone.  

You also have to be awefully impressed with Ellis Krout.  The guy had 3 receptions for 86 yards and scored a pair of touchdowns.  He will definately be a force to be reconed with this year.  Sure, there were some cobwebs on the offense, but as it is with the beginning of the season, you can see that the Wolverines offense is like a powder keg.  Once the cobwebs are cleared, I really think it is going to light off.  My sleeper is TB Freshman Brandon Wright.  I think he could be another Pennywell......

The Captains really had a quick no-huddle offense, and Wesley's defense did a good job adjusting, for the most part.  Their interception return for the touchdown in the 4th quarter really put the cap on the bottle!  

This is going to be a great year!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 05, 2009, 08:04:00 PM
 :(  Well, it's official.  Larry Beavers was cut today.....  I'm sure he will find a team somewhere where his speed will be of use.  Good luck Larry!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 05, 2009, 10:19:12 PM
Well todays game was very satisfying. I was impressed by the defense and how they completely shut down Tunde Ogun and the Captains. Wesley did a good job of hanging on to the football and not committing stupid penalties.

McSweeny was good today. Should have had a higher completion percentage with all the dropped passes. But it was still a pretty good day. Ellis Krout looked alright, but those drops were all a fluke. Krout will be a very good component to this offense.

Jackson also surprised me a bit. He held on to the football and had some very nice plays.

As for Beavers, hopefully, he will get signed somewhere he will play. I have heard that the Jets and a few other teams have expressed interest.

All in all a very good game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 05, 2009, 11:47:29 PM
The only bright spot of the day was that I got to drink some of Wesleydad's beer! Thanks!!

I did a lot of thinking on the 4 hour drive home. My impression of Wesley is that they are fast and they are good. For a first game of the season, the mistakes made are fixable for Wesley. CNU just stunk up the state of Delaware today. Good thing they have a bye next week.....there needs to be some major corrections, revamping, retooling, rethinking....something......get the drawing board out! That was only the second time in CNU's history that they were shutout......The D-line and O-line were "whipped" - to use a Kelchner term.

Congrats to Wesley. Good luck the rest of the season
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2009, 12:55:15 AM
 Side note for the Wesley game today. One of the people setting up the press box and score board clocks had to be taken to the hospital as the teams were entering the field for pregame warm-ups as he got a bad electrical shock. No word on his release from the hospital.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on September 07, 2009, 11:51:19 AM
He is doing fine now. Like a true SID, he was more worried about getting the stuff done for the game, then making sure he was ok himself.

For all the stuff you see on the field, don't forget about those guys who work tirelessly behind the scene to help put on that show.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 07, 2009, 02:21:37 PM
Quote from: dedragon on September 07, 2009, 11:51:19 AM
He is doing fine now. Like a true SID, he was more worried about getting the stuff done for the game, then making sure he was ok himself.

For all the stuff you see on the field, don't forget about those guys who work tirelessly behind the scene to help put on that show.

Well, that's good news.  I know he got knocked on his butt. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 07, 2009, 02:50:49 PM
Ski

Do you get to review your work after the game? I think that would give you a unique insight into other things happening  on certain plays!!When my boys were in High School the coaches had a film night ofr the parents and it gives you a different view of the game from above..
 

 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 07, 2009, 04:14:38 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 07, 2009, 02:50:49 PM
Ski

Do you get to review your work after the game? I think that would give you a unique insight into other things happening  on certain plays!!When my boys were in High School the coaches had a film night ofr the parents and it gives you a different view of the game from above..

Only if I sit in on the filming sessions.  I was able to get a good idea from the Muhlenberg scrimmage on how it turned out by dropping by the office to take a look.  

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 07, 2009, 11:17:39 PM
Good game to open the season with for Salisbury......I think Sheahin gives the Gulls the ability to throw the ball and make some big plays through the air..... as much as I liked Ronnie, I think the UMD transfer showed me some of what they must have seen in him .....he can throw a catchable accurate ball.  Pace was not a bad D2 team, but the Gulls really handled them on both sides of the ball. It will be a good test this weekend going down to NC Wesleyan....no room for error.....gotta be thinking playoff spot right out of the gate, so can't lay a egg down south. GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 08, 2009, 12:31:28 AM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 07, 2009, 11:17:39 PM
Good game to open the season with for Salisbury......I think Sheahin gives the Gulls the ability to throw the ball and make some big plays through the air..... as much as I liked Ronnie, I think the UMD transfer showed me some of what they must have seen in him .....he can throw a catchable accurate ball.  Pace was not a bad D2 team, but the Gulls really handled them on both sides of the ball. It will be a good test this weekend going down to NC Wesleyan....no room for error.....gotta be thinking playoff spot right out of the gate, so can't lay a egg down south. GO GULLS!

I'm sure your CNU game will definately give a clue on relative strengths.  ;)  Good luck at NCW.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 10, 2009, 02:23:10 PM
I'm getting pumped up for the North Greenville game.  You can never tell how a Division II team will be until you play them. Although they are 0-2, Greenville's got a decent defense.  Both teams they played are 2-0.  This should be a good game.   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 10, 2009, 02:59:56 PM
How's the SID for Wesley? Heard he had a scare at the CNU game. Hope all is well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 10, 2009, 05:12:56 PM
CNU85
 
I think one of CNU's trainers or the team DR did the on site care . I understand that he is doing ok now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 10, 2009, 11:39:23 PM
Yeah, he's back at work.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 10, 2009, 11:50:25 PM
Ski

  You are about to embark on one of those famous Wesley bus rides!!!!  and you get to do it twice in three weeks time!!   Good luck  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 11, 2009, 12:15:43 AM
QuoteSki

  You are about to embark on one of those famous  Wesley bus rides!!!!  and you get to do it twice in three weeks time!!   Good luck

yay    :P


From the NGU game notes:

"After two tough losses to very good teams from the South Atlantic Conference,
you would think the NGU football team would be ready for a cup cake game
against a Division III school. You'd be dead wrong. The Crusaders, who were
downed by Wingate University 33-14 last Saturday on the road, will host the
Wesley College Wolverines of Delaware, and Wesley is currently ranked #6 in the
latest NCAA Division III poll. They are one of the preeminent programs in the
small college Division, and the Crusaders will once again have to 'Strike the
Stone' hard to get ready for this weekend's contest."

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 11, 2009, 08:33:30 PM
Hey Wesley Fans, I think the WC-North Greenville will be broadcast on North Greenville's Athletics page. It says that links will be available at gametime. Hopefully you dont have to pay for it.  :)

PS: To me Wesley Football is way better than Ohio State and USC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 11, 2009, 09:18:28 PM
Waterboy

J Bowen will be on WDEL.com tomoorow night. I have found that there is almost always a few to view video live
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 12, 2009, 05:17:08 PM
early results on Saturday
NC Wesleyan 24, Salisbury 17
NAIA (#21) UVA Wise 48, Apprentice 0
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 12, 2009, 07:10:36 PM
North Greenville 3-0, 9:33 in thr 1st
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 12, 2009, 07:26:45 PM
Wesley 7-3
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 12, 2009, 08:29:02 PM
Wesley up 14-3 at the half. Go 90 yards in six plays to end the half.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 12, 2009, 09:48:11 PM
Whats going on.... the WDEL crew said that McSweeny came off "holding his hands"
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2009, 10:28:38 PM
Anyone have the final?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 13, 2009, 12:20:47 AM
Quote from: the waterboy on September 12, 2009, 09:48:11 PM
Whats going on.... the WDEL crew said that McSweeny came off "holding his hands"

He's fine.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 13, 2009, 12:48:29 AM
Conrad

What time is the replay on DEL ? ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2009, 09:00:31 AM
Well, I just got back from the long ride back from NGU. Wheu!

A very interesting game.  The NGU facitilies are top-notch.  The field is in a 3/4 earthen bowl, with glassed in pressboxes and box seats.  Pretty slick.

The Crusaders had some pretty big guys and their defense didn't disappoint. Their secondary did a really good job keeping in touch with the wide-outs.  Luckily, Wesley has a left-right punch and established the running game, primarily in the second half.  Aaron Jackson really kicked in on this one.   The Crusaders were full of mistakes and the three (I believe) turnovers in the first half kept Wesley in the game early on.  Take away those and the ton of penalties they got, and it could of been a lot closer.  They have the people, but with the first year coach, they lacked play discipline.

Their offense kept Wesley guessing in the first half (even though they only scored 3 points, see above).  The quarterback option worked really well.  That was, until Wesley made a great adjustment in the second half and closed it down, big time.  Overall, the defense did a great job.

As mentioned above, McSweeney is fine.  He really wanted to run, that's for sure.  

Wesley 28, NGU 3
So, onto Delaware Valley!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 13, 2009, 10:40:28 AM
  Next weeks game with DelVal should be a good one. DelVal was already talking about Wesley in the local papers during their post game interviews yesterday and in the post game huddle they yelled Wesley many times! I am sure that Coach Drass will have his team ready for the Aggies next week after last years second half meltdown.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2009, 11:34:37 AM
Well, if Wesley continues to do a good job keeping the ball off the ground as they have done so far this year, then they have a good crack at another win.

-Ski
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Post by: Hawks88 on September 13, 2009, 01:57:30 PM
Great game yesterday by Huntingdon vs Faulkner in a 45-12 win. A goal line stand in the first quarter set the tone for a dominating performance all day. Even though their guys were bigger, our guys were faster and stronger. The off-season work these guys did really showed. Everything we had heard was that Faulkner was supposed to be much improved over previous years but our guys showed up and played a pretty much flawless game in all aspects.
Looking forward to seeing what we can do in Wisconsin this week.


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 13, 2009, 08:43:21 PM
ok. lets get this out of the way early.  last year wesley led 16 - 0 at half time and the game wasn't that close.  2 turnovers early in the 3rd q and wesley's first game cost them the game.  the game should not have been close.  if  wesley does what they are supposed to do the game will not be close.  keep the ball off the ground and they win.  my only concern is that is seems that they are throwing the ball down the field more, not mcsweeneys strong suit, look at the completion % for the first 2 games and it seems like knapp has gone back to the downfield passing game which leads to a lower % of completions.  when your QB is under 50% that is not good no matter what you are doing.  wesley is the better team and should win, but turnovers will be the key to the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: long time fan on September 14, 2009, 01:00:27 AM
I agree with Wesleydad on the Del Val Game.     re.  Knapp going back to downfield passes.... Knapps  philosophy has always been throw and run it where they ain't.    I believe a lot of those downfield passes are QB audibles. I'm looking forward to the best played game of season.  /The definse has been awesome.. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 14, 2009, 09:43:17 AM
Quote from: long time fan on September 14, 2009, 01:00:27 AM
I agree with Wesleydad on the Del Val Game.     re.  Knapp going back to downfield passes.... Knapps  philosophy has always been throw and run it where they ain't.    I believe a lot of those downfield passes are QB audibles. I'm looking forward to the best played game of season.  /The definse has been awesome..  

I'm not too worried about the down-field shots.  I consider it weapons testing more than anything else.  It's early in the season, and the more you test your weapons, the more accurate they become.  ;)  As mentioned above, if anything was proved this weekend, it was that Wesley's running game is still potent in the face of a large defensive line, even without Penneywell.

....And welcome to the board long time fan!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on September 14, 2009, 10:52:00 AM
Hey Wesley Dad!  LTNT!  What's the boy up to these days?

Looks like Wesley might be the real deal, huh?  I would still like to see Mount and Wesley play a home/home series sometime soon.  I was bummed when we signed to play UWO the next two years. 

Maybe see you in the playoffs?   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 14, 2009, 12:09:01 PM
Ouch.....the loss to NC Wesleyan hurts the playoff chances......aahhhh!!!! :'(....put the ball on the ground @ the 1 yard line that would have tied the game....that plus the 6 other fumbles.....can't beat anyone that way......congrats to NCW.....LET'S GET READY FOR CNU...NO MORE LETDOWNS.....GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Swish3 on September 14, 2009, 12:30:45 PM
According to the stats on SU's website, Salisbury fumbled 7 times losing 2 of them....NCW lost two fumbles, as well.  Sounds like Wesleyan won a close one, w/turnovers being pretty even....

No offense Backer, but I hope SU fumbles early and often this Saturday! ;D

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 14, 2009, 01:39:29 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 14, 2009, 12:09:01 PM
Ouch.....the loss to NC Wesleyan hurts the playoff chances......aahhhh!!!! :'(....put the ball on the ground @ the 1 yard line that would have tied the game....that plus the 6 other fumbles.....can't beat anyone that way......congrats to NCW.....LET'S GET READY FOR CNU...NO MORE LETDOWNS.....GO GULLS!

Sure sounds like Del Val and Montclair St. for Wesley the last couple years.  Turnovers kill....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 14, 2009, 04:48:45 PM
I thought Salisbury was going to throw more with Sheahin.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 14, 2009, 07:56:55 PM
Good game against NGU. The Crusaders werent very disciplined which led to a lot of personal foul calls. It was apparently a tough day and a tough defense to pass the ball against for the Wolverines or Shane just had a bad day. Hes never really passed under 50%in a game I dont think.(KEEP IN MIND THE DROPS vs. CNU he should have been about 15-20) But he used his feet along with A-Jax to beat them. The defense was very good and played disciplined football.

Wesley coaches will cook up something to beat those Aggies. Last year we made way too many mistakes against them. In particular, that roughing the punter call, and the two point conversion that was failed because it was pushed back 15 some yards on penalties. Last year both A-Jax and Pennewell ran for 100 or more yards. On offense it was the lack of discipline and the passing game that hurt them (81 yards). The defense and special teams also lacked discipline.

I think if Wesley plays with the discipline and skill they have displayed in these first two games, although they werent 50-0 scores, they should be able to beat Del Val. Both Shane and A-Jax can run. Krout proves a valuable option in the secondary and McSweeny will be the passer he was last year and against CNU. Recievers have dropped a few passes but hopefully thats no big deal. On defense, Marcus Wilson has surprised me by going almost Bobby Boucher and tackling everyone. Coach Knapp and Coach Drass, who have forgotten more football than I will ever know will definitely have something in mind come gametime.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 15, 2009, 05:06:48 PM
PA Wesley fan....I thought so too......I know he got hurt in the 2nd half and didn't finish the game, but I am not sure how much that affected the amount of passing that SU did.....need to bounce back against CNU.....I can't go, but I know the players really like that facility, nice atmosphere, away stands are not real good, but the field and home stands are the nicest D3 stuff I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on September 15, 2009, 05:20:44 PM
Wesley v DelVal  looks like a nice game for a local like myself to take in on Saturday. I saw Isgro

against Hopkins and the issue will be how successful the defensive gameplan will handle his multifaceted

attack.

I look forward to  seeing if DelVal can keep Wesley under 30 and be in the game in the 4th quarter.
If so, it could be another last minute finish with an Aggie victory;if not, the wolverines roll again.
   I liked the DelVal defense against Hopkins running game but we know that Wesley plays at a different
speed than JH. This  should be a very interesting matchup.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 17, 2009, 05:36:21 PM
muledaddy, good to hear from you.  look me up saturday, i will likely park back by the tracks near the gate that allows you to walk to the soccer fields.  i will be there doing a little tailgating and hopefully meeting some of the delval faithful.  as far as the game goes, i don't think that delval will struggle keeping wesley in the 20's, they did it last year, albeit more due to wesley mistakes, since the offense is not a potent this year.  isgro was good last year so he is likely better this year.  i think this will be a close low scoring game, in the 20's, unless someone has too many turnovers or penalties allowing the other team to control the game.

waterboy, unless they change the game plan mcsweeney will not complete the same percentage of passes as last year when the large majority of them were thrown under 10 yards most of the season.  i agree that wesley should win the game.  if you are making the trip, look me up, will have the #13 jersey.

pa wesley, see you in the lot, i will be there around 1100.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 17, 2009, 07:03:02 PM
waterboy

I am not so sure that the completion rate really matters if you are getting two or three TD's a game from it as long as when it's time for clock management it doesn't slow down the game .  Plus averaging over two hundred yards rushing and two hundred yards passing a game isn't bad.

  wesleydad

I haven't fianlized the plans yet for the game.. If we get there early enough we'l look you up. I think we may havea crowd coming...

  I am looking forward to seeing Wesley's  D Backs against a good QB this week. Isgro is the best QB they've seen. And if they shut down Cook like they did Tunde Isgro will have to make the plays to keep it close.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 17, 2009, 08:47:48 PM
No, I wont be making a trip out to Del Val anytime soon. I live too far away. If anything, the next game I will be at is either Salisbury or a playoff game. :'(

Anyway, it will be interesting to see if Wesley's D can hold down Isgro. The NGU QB who could run showed me that Wesley could hold a scrambling QB down. Albiet that that QB wasnt as good as Isgro but we will see.

Hope all of you going that your trip is safe.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 17, 2009, 10:20:33 PM
Ahhhh..... Today it cooled down and it is starting to feel like football weather!  I am really pumped up for the game.  I'll definately be there!  Well, I think Wesley will be out for blood this time around to avenge last year's loss.  I'm not looking at a low scoring game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 19, 2009, 03:10:05 PM
24-6 should be 31-6 without holding call before INT.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 19, 2009, 03:42:30 PM
Early 2nd quarter. Huntingdon 7 - UW-Oshkosh 7.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 19, 2009, 04:26:41 PM
Huntingdon gives up a long TD pass, a pick 6 and, what hopefully wasn't a back-breaker, a TD with :06 left in the half. Oshkosh 28 HC 7 at the half. We have some work to do to get back in this one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 19, 2009, 05:56:27 PM
Final Oshkosh 31 - Huntingdon 13
HC just blew to many opportunities. 5 turnovers, 3 I think in the red zone. We moved the ball well all day but couldn't finish drives. Maybe we got the turnovers out of our system. Louisiana College is going to be another tough game next week.


Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 19, 2009, 07:23:38 PM
Well....Revenge has been taken on last year's loss to Delaware Valley.  It wasn't pretty, but Wesley did it,  31-13.  The Aggies were definately their worst enemy today.  They were really spirited, but man, they just coughed up fur balls the entire game. Turnover, penalty, stir, repeat.   It's been a long time since I have seen a team self destruct like that.   After the score turned 24-0, the crowd turned stone silent.  I really mean that.  I have never, ever seen a crowd hush up like that.

Now if that field goal return late in the 4th quarter didn't pop up like it did, the score would of been a tad better..... mmmmmm. 

Wesley can now move onto the epic bus ride to Georgia!  I'm there!

-Ski

p.s.  It was great to see PA-Wesleyfan and Wesleydad today at the game. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 19, 2009, 10:41:51 PM
A little late but I am returning from a late and boring Kent State game.

Wesley's defence was excellent....Again. Technically they only surrendered 6 pts.

A bit of bad luck with Jackson coming out with that injury, hopefully he can make a speedy recovery. I think Barry Garrard, Abeeb Badmus, and Brandon Wright will be able to carry the load though. The reciever corps looked better but still dropping a few passes and theres still room for some improvement.

As for McSweeny, He passed like Shane McSweeny passes. He should have had 4 TDs and 1 Pick because of that holding call. Thats what Ill think about at least. I like the fact that he was in the 70-80% range as well. Thats good to see. So some room for improvement for him but he did improve today. That goes for the whole team as well.

On to LaGrange. Im glad Im not taking that 15 hour drive.  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 19, 2009, 10:52:12 PM
waterboy

I don't know if it came across on the broadcast but there were some bad decisions by players on both teams today that hurt their teams. The game was a little chippy. I looked at the wdel video and it sure looks like the knee was down on the fg run back. The TD pass was caused by Isgro running and both defenders coming up and leaving Peterman all alone along the side lines. Wesley really controlled things after the first quarter and just kept grinding out yards on the ground. There were Jackson didn't return and Nevid got injured(knee) on the fg play. I was again impressed with Wesley O and D lines!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 20, 2009, 09:39:02 AM
pawesleyfan, gordanmann, conrad, and teamski, nice to see you guys again.

pawesley, i agree that there were some bad decisions by players on both teams.

after the first quarter the defense made the adjustments and shut down delval, but the game may have been totally different had delval made the plays instead of the turnovers.  the d line put plenty of pressure on isgro and managed to kep him from running around too much.  I was a little surprized at how open some of the recievers were early in the game.

offensively, wesley only had 1 drive of more than 50 yards.  they took advantage of a short field in the 2nd quarter for 2 scores, the second touchdown was set up by a questionable placement of the interception which could have just as easily been called a touchback instead of on the 1 yard line.  that score was also aided by delval passing on 3rd down with 50 seconds to go and no wesley timeouts, could have punted with under 15 seconds to go and only trailed 10 - 0 unless wesley hits the hail mary at the gun, which was not likely since they were the passes that mcsweeney had picked off.  waterboy, you are correct mcsweeneys % was up again because most of the passes were thrown less than 10 yards.  the 61 yard td was a no gain, 2 missed tackles that krout turned into a td.  if i remember correctly the only other drive that wesely had was aided by a roughing the punter call were the punter didnt even go down, but was grazed on the way by.  offense seems to not have a flow yet.

I will also ignore the field goal return, not sure why wesley kicked it, wind was not eough to help it and not sure why the delval player ran it out,i guess it was a case of where 2 wrongs made a right.

With salisbury looking like they are not that good, wesley will be hard pressed to have a tough game before the end of the season unless ohio dominican is good.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on September 20, 2009, 09:51:23 AM
Wesleydad,

Congrats on another outstanding Wolverine victory.My last minute change of plans took  me to Allentown, where a young, game, but inexperienced  Mule team pulled off a nice upset over Union(#22), who had beaten Ithaca.Great day for football.Hoping to see you down the road at least 1 time this season (although I don't know where or when yet), I send best wishes to you and yours.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 20, 2009, 07:54:24 PM
Went to go see Wesley's JV today dismantle Walter Reed Hospital 54-8.  I sincerely thanked the members of the Walter Reed team after the game for serving our country.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on September 22, 2009, 12:19:21 AM
Big weekend for LaGrange who will be hosting #5 Wesley. Hope we give you guys a good game. Have a safe trip. Let us know if you pass Noah-he and his ark are reported to be in the area! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 22, 2009, 09:31:41 AM
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on September 22, 2009, 12:19:21 AM
Big weekend for LaGrange who will be hosting #5 Wesley. Hope we give you guys a good game. Have a safe trip. Let us know if you pass Noah-he and his ark are reported to be in the area! ;D

We'll keep an eye out for him!  It should be an interesting game.  You can never discount a team like LaGrange. Wesley will be taking this game very seriously.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 24, 2009, 09:35:31 AM
Leaving today for Georgia.  I sure hope the flooding there doesn't interfere with the game!  Go Wolverines!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 26, 2009, 03:50:35 PM
Well, didnt need A Jax today. 56-7. Wesleys defense was great again with 5 picks. The offense was also good as the score denotes. Another good win for Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
Cosch Drass stated in an interview with WDEL radio that Wesley has a full schedule for next year incluiding Huntingdon, LaGrange  and Kean. He did not say who the other teams were but Del Val is coming to
Dover and we still have Frostburg and Salisbury along with NNA. With LaGrange and Huntingdon on the schedule for the next few years there will be some long bus rides ahead!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 26, 2009, 08:58:35 PM
Great game for Huntingdon today with a 34-21 win over Louisiana College. 100 offensive plays and 560 yds of offense for HC and 124 on 30 carries for Sr. Alex Baronich. Except for the 5 turnovers against Oshkosh last week this team has played very well this year. If they keep it up they are going to be a very tough team to beat the rest of the way. I'm glad we have an open week coming up though as we have a bunch of guys dinged up and a big game against Millsaps in two weeks.

Go Hawks!! Great job today guys!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 26, 2009, 09:01:16 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
Cosch Drass stated in an interview with WDEL radio that Wesley has a full schedule for next year incluiding Huntingdon, LaGrange  and Kean. He did not say who the other teams were but Del Val is coming to
Dover and we still have Frostburg and Salisbury along with NNA. With LaGrange and Huntingdon on the schedule for the next few years there will be some long bus rides ahead!!

Glad to hear this, PA_wesleyfan.  Maybe we can keep improving and have some good games with you guys.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 26, 2009, 09:04:34 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
Cosch Drass stated in an interview with WDEL radio that Wesley has a full schedule for next year incluiding Huntingdon, LaGrange  and Kean. He did not say who the other teams were but Del Val is coming to
Dover and we still have Frostburg and Salisbury along with NNA. With LaGrange and Huntingdon on the schedule for the next few years there will be some long bus rides ahead!!


Long bus rides (I hate to say) will probably be the calling cards for both of us over the next few years :(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 26, 2009, 09:43:08 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
Cosch Drass stated in an interview with WDEL radio that Wesley has a full schedule for next year incluiding Huntingdon, LaGrange  and Kean. He did not say who the other teams were but Del Val is coming to
Dover and we still have Frostburg and Salisbury along with NNA. With LaGrange and Huntingdon on the schedule for the next few years there will be some long bus rides ahead!!

Huntingdon and LaGrange are happy for the games, too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2009, 09:56:05 PM
I suppose the E8 has no reason to include Wesley .  So looks like for now Huntingdon and LaGrange will help with scheduling.  We do have Stevenson coming along soon but with Salisbury and FSU moving to the E8 will they keep games with Wesley?? I know that NNA is being dropped by good old FSU could Wesley be far behind
.I see Lake Erie is playing more  dIII teams ...wonder if that has any meaning other than they can't get inter division  games
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2009, 11:01:15 PM
Probably that they're still brand-new and can't handle D-II teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 27, 2009, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
Cosch Drass stated in an interview with WDEL radio that Wesley has a full schedule for next year incluiding Huntingdon, LaGrange  and Kean. He did not say who the other teams were but Del Val is coming to
Dover and we still have Frostburg and Salisbury along with NNA. With LaGrange and Huntingdon on the schedule for the next few years there will be some long bus rides ahead!!

At  least LaGrange will be at home!

We just got back this morning.  It was a cracking game for Wesley, that's for sure.  It was pretty hot and humid down there.  Luckily, the clouds and winds came in and cooled the game off just in the nick of time.  Marcus Wilson's first half interception was absolutely incredible.  A LaGrange guy next to me said that it was the most athletic intereception he had seen at any level this year.  Marcus jumped right over the reciever to catch the ball on the other side.  Amazing. I wish you could of seen it.  He literally looked like superman there for a moment.

The defense really stepped it up and forced the interceptions.  3 sacks for the day kept the Panther QB's running.  The offense brought out an extremely balanced attack, almot 500 yards worth. It sure helped with the short fields given by the defense.  So, finally a home game to enjoy next week against Frostburg State.

The LaGrange folks were really friendly down there, by the way.



-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 27, 2009, 08:51:50 AM
another win for the wolverines.  not sure how much it shows as it seems that lagrange is not very good this year.  the defense is playing very well only giving up 7 again this week.  nice stats for the offense.  it would be nice to see them play a good team at some point during the season.  maybe salisbury is getting it together with their win yesterday against st john fisher.  i hope so because it is tough to go into the playoffs without having had to play a tight game.  this weeks game seems like it will be more of the same as frostburg lost to widener yesterday.

nice to hear that they have filled out the schedule for the next couple of years.  long trips to play d3 teams are better than long trips to play non-d3 teams like they did last year.  i would not be surprized to see fsu drop them, but i think (hope) that the salisbury game is played, good rivelry.

may see some of you at homecoming this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 27, 2009, 12:27:29 PM
Wesleydad
 
 Wesley just might be that good that they make decent teams look bad... LaGrange got 86 oif their total yards against Wesley's team D late in the fourth quarter. Del Val is a good team  LaGrange was missing  it's tailback but had a core group returning from a playoff team last year. CNU had there best on the field for the first half and didn't do anything. DelVal beat a Kean team that knocked off #7 Cortland st and may challenge for the NJAC. And as consitancy goes Wesley is one of the few teams in DIII playing well week after week
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 27, 2009, 08:46:06 PM
Wesley played good ball again. I believe that they held LaGrange to just 1 first down up until the first quarter. LaGrange was banged up coming in but none the less, it shows that the Wolverines can be a force to be feared come playoff time.

PA Wesleyfan:

If the Wolverines continue to play like they know how to, the could very well be the team that makes decent ones look bad. I wouldnt be surprised. We've got the coaches and players to do it. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 27, 2009, 08:51:23 PM
the waterboy

   Will you be making any more trips to Dover this fall?

Frostburg St. will come in looking to knock off the big dog so the Wolverines have to stay focused.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 27, 2009, 09:34:09 PM
PA Wesleyfan

Possibly. I may be back for the Salisbury game, or in the playoffs. Is Wesley still allowed to host playoff games at home? I know that there has been talk back and forth but I am not sure.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 27, 2009, 09:54:02 PM
waterboy

I think they are back in court about what they can offer for betting... But if there is no college betting I think they wioll be able too. The nacc brought down the ruling the day after the original DELwre vote to start betting.The word was eve if they had college as long as it was parley betting the schools  may be ok for one game playoffs. The bigger problem was for Delaware U because they were to host post season bball league tourney which would not be allowed to host... That all being said this is the ncaa we're talking about
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 28, 2009, 10:31:59 AM
Good Job Gulls! Nice win over a good opponent.......Any thought @ Wesley about going to division 2?....Just a thought, but being a independant in D3 is going to continue to be tough with travel/scheduling. Salisbury is part of the Uof Md. public system and the Md. board of regents have them set up as D3 and that won't change...(Bowie is the D2 school in that system). I have seen a bit of D2 ball and Wesley is better than most I have seen. IUP, Slippery Rock, Bowie, Seton Hill... closer than Georgia I think. Just a question for the Wesley guys on the board. If it is about having 100+ tuition paying students then I guess that answers my question, but if not?
NNA coming in next week to SU....I hope to get down there.......Go Gulls!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 28, 2009, 12:59:46 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 28, 2009, 10:31:59 AM
Good Job Gulls! Nice win over a good opponent.......Any thought @ Wesley about going to division 2?....Just a thought, but being a independant in D3 is going to continue to be tough with travel/scheduling. Salisbury is part of the Uof Md. public system and the Md. board of regents have them set up as D3 and that won't change...(Bowie is the D2 school in that system). I have seen a bit of D2 ball and Wesley is better than most I have seen. IUP, Slippery Rock, Bowie, Seton Hill... closer than Georgia I think. Just a question for the Wesley guys on the board. If it is about having 100+ tuition paying students then I guess that answers my question, but if not?
NNA coming in next week to SU....I hope to get down there.......Go Gulls!

Until somebody sources the considerable funds for the scholarships, I HIGHLY doubt anything like that would happen.  I think the question really should go to Mount Union or UWW!  Congrads to the victory, by the way.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 28, 2009, 03:18:26 PM
Hopefully we can get some home field advantage come playoff time.

And yes it is very highly improbable that Wesley will ever move to D2. Ski is right, that question should really go to Mount Union or Whitewater. Wolverines back at home Saturday vs. FSU. Lets keep on rollin.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 28, 2009, 04:38:14 PM
The D2 question wasn't because I think Wesley should move because I think they don't belong in D3-they are a good D3 team that has had a strong run over the last 6 years or so....the sole reason I posed it is due to their lack of a conference affliliation very soon and the comments the Wesley folks have been saying regarding travel and trouble scheduling games, sorry if I was misunderstood .....Mount Union is in one of the best D3 conferences in the country and  UWW is in the best conference so I wouldn't see any reason they would think of moving. They have a solid schedule in place already. I have never suggested any team should move because of talent...if you're playing by the rules and you have a good team, then have at it! I have been around mid atlantic football to know that programs have a ebb and flow. The only constant is the Mount....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 28, 2009, 06:33:49 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 28, 2009, 04:38:14 PM
The D2 question wasn't because I think Wesley should move because I think they don't belong in D3-they are a good D3 team that has had a strong run over the last 6 years or so....the sole reason I posed it is due to their lack of a conference affliliation very soon and the comments the Wesley folks have been saying regarding travel and trouble scheduling games, sorry if I was misunderstood .....Mount Union is in one of the best D3 conferences in the country and  UWW is in the best conference so I wouldn't see any reason they would think of moving. They have a solid schedule in place already. I have never suggested any team should move because of talent...if you're playing by the rules and you have a good team, then have at it! I have been around mid atlantic football to know that programs have a ebb and flow. The only constant is the Mount....

I gotcha.  Well, Wesley will have to be content to shoot for the Pool B bid each year for the time being.  Fortunately, the scheduling seems to be sorting itself out as of late since Coach Drass has the 2010 schedule done already.  I'm sure there are plans in the works on getting into another conference.  Anyways, from what I understand, Salisbury and Frostburg are only placeholders in the Empire 8.  Once the conference is full, then they are obligated to return to the ACFC or the CAC when it gets up and running.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on September 28, 2009, 07:50:20 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 28, 2009, 12:59:46 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 28, 2009, 10:31:59 AM
Good Job Gulls! Nice win over a good opponent.......Any thought @ Wesley about going to division 2?....Just a thought, but being a independant in D3 is going to continue to be tough with travel/scheduling. Salisbury is part of the Uof Md. public system and the Md. board of regents have them set up as D3 and that won't change...(Bowie is the D2 school in that system). I have seen a bit of D2 ball and Wesley is better than most I have seen. IUP, Slippery Rock, Bowie, Seton Hill... closer than Georgia I think. Just a question for the Wesley guys on the board. If it is about having 100+ tuition paying students then I guess that answers my question, but if not?
NNA coming in next week to SU....I hope to get down there.......Go Gulls!

Until somebody sources the considerable funds for the scholarships, I HIGHLY doubt anything like that would happen.  I think the question really should go to Mount Union or UWW!  Congrads to the victory, by the way.

-Ski

And keep in mind, that would mean scholarships in all sports. I don't see a D2 conference accepting anyone as a football playing member only, and I don't know whether Wesley's or Mount's or UWW's results in other sports would justify a move up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on September 29, 2009, 01:46:28 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 27, 2009, 08:45:27 AM
...
 Marcus Wilson's first half interception was absolutely incredible.  A LaGrange guy next to me said that it was the most athletic intereception he had seen at any level this year.  Marcus jumped right over the reciever to catch the ball on the other side.  Amazing. I wish you could of seen it.  He literally looked like superman there for a moment. ...

The LaGrange folks were really friendly down there, by the way.

-Ski

That was an amazing pick. Surely would have been the play of the day if it had been televised. Glad to hear you were treated well here.

Our boys have a long bus ride to Jefferson City, MO to play DII Lincoln University. Hope they find a way to shake off whatever's ailing them. With 21 returning starters they should be playing a whole lot better.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 29, 2009, 02:23:19 PM
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on September 29, 2009, 01:46:28 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 27, 2009, 08:45:27 AM
...
 Marcus Wilson's first half interception was absolutely incredible.  A LaGrange guy next to me said that it was the most athletic intereception he had seen at any level this year.  Marcus jumped right over the reciever to catch the ball on the other side.  Amazing. I wish you could of seen it.  He literally looked like superman there for a moment. ...

The LaGrange folks were really friendly down there, by the way.

-Ski

That was an amazing pick. Surely would have been the play of the day if it had been televised. Glad to hear you were treated well here.

Our boys have a long bus ride to Jefferson City, MO to play DII Lincoln University. Hope they find a way to shake off whatever's ailing them. With 21 returning starters they should be playing a whole lot better.



From what I understand, you lost some of your real leaders from last year. Hopefully, somebody will step up.  I was impressed by #15 ( I can't recall his name).  He has a lot of promise as your future QB.  He definately exuded confidence that the first two QB's were missing.  If LaGrange can start tapping the Georgia/Georgia Tech and Auburn region, you are going to have a great future!  Heck, making the playoffs in the 3rd year was an amazing feat in itself!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 29, 2009, 05:05:00 PM
I dont know if Mount is in one of the BEST D3 conferences. Its only game was Ohio Northern a few weeks ago. I dont know.... to me the only team I think that will give them a game in the regular season was Ohio Northern.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on September 29, 2009, 08:44:55 PM
Oh boy....here we go.. ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 29, 2009, 08:48:50 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 27, 2009, 12:27:29 PM
Wesleydad
 
 Wesley just might be that good that they make decent teams look bad... LaGrange got 86 oif their total yards against Wesley's team D late in the fourth quarter. Del Val is a good team  LaGrange was missing  it's tailback but had a core group returning from a playoff team last year. CNU had there best on the field for the first half and didn't do anything. DelVal beat a Kean team that knocked off #7 Cortland st and may challenge for the NJAC. And as consitancy goes Wesley is one of the few teams in DIII playing well week after week
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Pa : Hope all is well. Kean beat a Cortland team without their QB Pitcher. Cortland beat Rowan the week before and Pitcher was hurt and out for the season later in the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 29, 2009, 09:29:24 PM
rams1102

I have been following the games in the east. The NJAC looks similar to the south. Just when you think you have a few teams pegged things change...Every week it's a new scenerio!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 29, 2009, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on September 29, 2009, 08:44:55 PM
Oh boy....here we go.. ::)

Not right when a kid from Ohio bashes his state's own D-III conference. :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 29, 2009, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: Conrad on September 29, 2009, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on September 29, 2009, 08:44:55 PM
Oh boy....here we go.. ::)

Not right when a kid from Ohio bashes his state's own D-III conference. :D

I was thinking the same thing..  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on September 29, 2009, 10:18:17 PM
Must be a disgruntled OAC wannabe.........even Wilmington or Marietta wouldn't take him.  Hiram wanted him BAD though....... ;D

Hey.....every conference has their good/mediocre/ugly teams.  Overall (and has been proven over the years), the OAC has been in the top three strength-wise in D-III land.  Now I will agree that Mount has skewed those results somewhat in the last 17 years, but USUALLY the second place OAC team makes a nice run until they usually have to meet Mount. 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 29, 2009, 10:35:22 PM
skunks_sidekick


He may get recruited someday by Mount Union!!! ;)  He has his loyalty somewhere else  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2009, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: the waterboy on September 29, 2009, 05:05:00 PM
I dont know if Mount is in one of the BEST D3 conferences. Its only game was Ohio Northern a few weeks ago. I dont know.... to me the only team I think that will give them a game in the regular season was Ohio Northern.

Just because nobody in the OAC can give Mount Union a game doesn't mean it's not a good conference. Seems like lately there are 234 teams in Division III that can't give Mount Union a game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 29, 2009, 11:41:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2009, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: the waterboy on September 29, 2009, 05:05:00 PM
I dont know if Mount is in one of the BEST D3 conferences. Its only game was Ohio Northern a few weeks ago. I dont know.... to me the only team I think that will give them a game in the regular season was Ohio Northern.

Just because nobody in the OAC can give Mount Union a game doesn't mean it's not a good conference. Seems like lately there are 234 teams in Division III that can't give Mount Union a game.

Good point..... ::)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on September 29, 2009, 11:47:13 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2009, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: the waterboy on September 29, 2009, 05:05:00 PM
I dont know if Mount is in one of the BEST D3 conferences. Its only game was Ohio Northern a few weeks ago. I dont know.... to me the only team I think that will give them a game in the regular season was Ohio Northern.

Just because nobody in the OAC can give Mount Union a game doesn't mean it's not a good conference. Seems like lately there are 234 teams in Division III that can't give Mount Union a game.

I'm sure this has been discussed before but I will ask it.  What do you think D3 as a whole needs to do to be better competition for Mount Union?  Right now, it's just getting pretty depressing that there are really only 2 or 3 teams out of 238 that even has a shot at them each year. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 30, 2009, 03:21:53 PM
Hahaha. Well to this point Mount is the only Ohio team that actually wins  ;D.  Every other Ohio team in any sport is just depressing.

Looking forward to Frostburg St. this weekend. Will we be getting A-Jax back?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 01, 2009, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 30, 2009, 03:21:53 PM
Hahaha. Well to this point Mount is the only Ohio team that actually wins  ;D.  Every other Ohio team in any sport is just depressing.

Looking forward to Frostburg St. this weekend. Will we be getting A-Jax back?

Should be a great game!  The crowd should be good with it being Homecoming and all!  From an article in the paper today (Delaware State News), A-Jax is almost 100%, so if he isn't in this game, he will be back for NNA.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 02, 2009, 05:38:28 PM
Ready for some Wesley College Football tomorrow. Bye week next week so better enjoy it those who are going.  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 02, 2009, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 30, 2009, 03:21:53 PM
Every other Ohio team in any sport is just depressing.

Really? In any sport?

Kenyon has one of the most successful dynasties ever (http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/index.ssf/2009/03/lords_of_the_rings_kenyon_swim.html).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 03, 2009, 02:31:41 PM
im talking about the buckeyes with those losses in the championships. The indians, the browns, the bengals, the reds. Not entirely D3.

Wesley up 34-0 at the half. Penalties gotta stop though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 03, 2009, 04:55:21 PM
It looked as if a completely different Wesley team went out there in the second half. More penalties in this game and more dumb mistakes. Its a bad win, if there ever is such a thing. The D needs to clean up that little screen that Frostburg and Del Val could use to an extent. I think the WDEL guys said it best: Keeping the foot on the gas. The second half Wolverines took it off the gas. Personally, I think the coaches and players will straighten this deal out by the time we play NNA.

So, work to be done, and stuff to set straight.

Congrats to McSweeny for tying Jason Visconti for TD passes in a game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 03, 2009, 05:10:49 PM
It wasn't pretty, but a win is a win.  What do you do when you are up 34-0?  Do you run up the score or take it easy?  It's a tough call.  Sometimes when you go in cruise control, the opponent gets the upper hand.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 03, 2009, 11:47:50 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 01, 2009, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 30, 2009, 03:21:53 PM
Hahaha. Well to this point Mount is the only Ohio team that actually wins  ;D.  Every other Ohio team in any sport is just depressing.

Looking forward to Frostburg St. this weekend. Will we be getting A-Jax back?

Should be a great game!  The crowd should be good with it being Homecoming and all!  From an article in the paper today (Delaware State News), A-Jax is almost 100%, so if he isn't in this game, he will be back for NNA.

-Ski


Great..after today just what we need to see - you guys getting your stud rb back ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on October 04, 2009, 07:42:09 PM
OK. LC Got the DII monkey off their back. LC beat Lincoln University (Jefferson City, MO) 20-7 yesterday. That was a long trip
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 04, 2009, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on October 04, 2009, 07:42:09 PM
OK. LC Got the DII monkey off their back. LC beat Lincoln University (Jefferson City, MO) 20-7 yesterday. That was a long trip


Congrads!  Now to take the positive and run with it for the rest of the season!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 05, 2009, 12:19:10 PM
Well, I think that Keith's comments on Wesley in this week's podcast was spot-on.  I think it is indicitive of Wesley's performance the last couple years.  What do you do, run up the score or coast?  It's a tough call for a team like Wesley to make.  In the end, Keith is right: you have to play two halves of error-free football to be a good football team.  If the score gets ran up, oh well.    

 Too bad I didn't stick around after the game to talk to him.  My back was killing me.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 07, 2009, 09:51:00 PM
Well, I think this is the WORST week of the D3 football season. The bye week. No Wesley Football for another week and a half.  :'(

Going to have to look for some entertainment on my Saturday afternoon. Thinking about going to Mount Union to see what they have, or visiting a friend at the Baldwin Wallace game

I didnt know that the Frostburg game was the first time a QB threw for over 300 yards since Chris Warrick.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 08, 2009, 07:25:35 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 07, 2009, 09:51:00 PM
Well, I think this is the WORST week of the D3 football season. The bye week. No Wesley Football for another week and a half.  :'(

Going to have to look for some entertainment on my Saturday afternoon. Thinking about going to Mount Union to see what they have, or visiting a friend at the Baldwin Wallace game

I didnt know that the Frostburg game was the first time a QB threw for over 300 yards since Chris Warrick.

You ain't kidding!  This is going to painful!  Oh well, I do have some papers and reading to catch up on.... ::)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gray Fox on October 08, 2009, 01:02:21 PM
I was in Dover the Monday before the NASCAR weekend, the one when Wesley traveled to LaGrange.

All I heard of was how difficult it was to travel around the area during that time.  So, does Wesley try to have an away game during this time each year, or do they have to take what they can get? :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 08, 2009, 03:15:06 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on October 08, 2009, 01:02:21 PM
I was in Dover the Monday before the NASCAR weekend, the one when Wesley traveled to LaGrange.

All I heard of was how difficult it was to travel around the area during that time.  So, does Wesley try to have an away game during this time each year, or do they have to take what they can get? :)

As the Sprint Cup race is on Sunday, the traffic on Saturday isn't all that bad.  Wesley does not reschedule games for NASCAR weekend.  Matter of fact, the Nationwide Cup had an impressive C-130 flyover a couple years ago, and it coincided with the start of the homecoming game!  It flew straight overhead right when the National Anthem ended.  I laughed out loud....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gray Fox on October 08, 2009, 10:05:55 PM
Thank you.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 10, 2009, 09:13:15 PM
Watched the tumble weed roll across Wesley's football field today.  Oh well.  At least there is a JV game tommorow..... :P

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 10, 2009, 09:23:51 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 10, 2009, 09:13:15 PM
Watched the tumble weed roll across Wesley's football field today.  Oh well.  At least there is a JV game tommorow..... :P

-Ski

Show me the video of the tumbleweed in Delaware in October!      ;)   :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 10, 2009, 11:42:21 PM
Its pretty miserable for us as Wolverine fans or any fan, to trudge through 2 weeks of no football. Oh well at least we have something to look forward to this upcoming weekend. We are halfway through.

Is Chris Cummings the QB of the JV team or is it someone else?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 12, 2009, 10:42:40 PM
http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2009-10/news/20091010_ufl

B. Robinson playing in the UFL
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 13, 2009, 06:31:26 PM
Well, its Tuesday but its not too late to say something about Saturdays game against NNA. And that is: Its good to see Aaron Jackson back on the field. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 13, 2009, 07:15:19 PM
Waterboy

I would think that Jackson is going to get some work this week to get back in the swing of things but I think we will see a lot of running backs again ...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on October 13, 2009, 08:25:03 PM
Well, LaGrange finally looked more like last year's team than one from the 0-20 days. It was a sweet victory over a former sliac team. Now a long road trip to Peoria this weekend.

Sure wish the same team had shown up to play Wesley. Anybody know if LaGrange is going up to Wesley next year?

Good luck to all your teams.



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 13, 2009, 09:54:07 PM
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on October 13, 2009, 08:25:03 PM
Well, LaGrange finally looked more like last year's team than one from the 0-20 days. It was a sweet victory over a former sliac team. Now a long road trip to Peoria this weekend.

Sure wish the same team had shown up to play Wesley. Anybody know if LaGrange is going up to Wesley next year?

Good luck to all your teams.








The Forgotten Man

I believe Coach Drass stated in a news conference that Wesley was playing LaGrange again next year and may be playing them beyond that. They also have an agreement to play Huntingdon the next few years.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 13, 2009, 09:55:14 PM
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on October 13, 2009, 08:25:03 PM

Sure wish the same team had shown up to play Wesley. Anybody know if LaGrange is going up to Wesley next year?

According to this post from a couple of weeks ago they are. I'm looking forward to Huntingdon and Wesley renewing this matchup.
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
Cosch Drass stated in an interview with WDEL radio that Wesley has a full schedule for next year incluiding Huntingdon, LaGrange  and Kean. He did not say who the other teams were but Del Val is coming to
Dover and we still have Frostburg and Salisbury along with NNA. With LaGrange and Huntingdon on the schedule for the next few years there will be some long bus rides ahead!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 13, 2009, 10:41:49 PM
Congrats to Huntingdon LB Quinn Hambrite for making the Team of the Week.
Keep up the good work, fellas!

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 15, 2009, 10:14:23 PM
not going to make the wesley game this weekend, taking a trip to hang out with the stone station guys in bridgewater for their homecoming game.  wesley should get plenty of players in the game this weekend.  after watching NNA the last 5 years and knowing what their players do and still play football, i have nothing but respect for them and their sid, a really nice guy.  good luck this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 15, 2009, 10:36:07 PM
It was a very cold and wet practice today.  No doubt it will be the same at NNA this weekend.  At least it is only a 4 hour trip and the last road trip in the regular season for the Wolverines.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 15, 2009, 10:47:15 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 15, 2009, 10:14:23 PM
not going to make the wesley game this weekend, taking a trip to hang out with the stone station guys in bridgewater for their homecoming game.  wesley should get plenty of players in the game this weekend.  after watching NNA the last 5 years and knowing what their players do and still play football, i have nothing but respect for them and their sid, a really nice guy.  good luck this weekend.

Thanks!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 15, 2009, 10:49:30 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 15, 2009, 10:36:07 PM
It was a very cold and wet practice today.  No doubt it will be the same at NNA this weekend.  At least it is only a 4 hour trip and the last road trip in the regular season for the Wolverines.  ;)

-Ski

Upper 50s low 60s on Saturday...chance of rain.
Heck probably the second easiest trip for you guys (next to Salisbury)....one turn onto 13 and next turn is through Bay Bridge :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 15, 2009, 11:04:33 PM
nnasid

I miss that trip.  When my aunt lived in Newport News we made the trip south every year.

Snowing in parts of PA and Ny tonight and maybe over the weekend too
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 17, 2009, 02:38:07 PM
Heres an interesting score

Lake Erie 28
Salisbury 0

At the Half.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 17, 2009, 04:58:42 PM
39-0 Wesley...McSweeny accounted for all four offensive touchdowns (three passing and one running)
28-7 Lake Erie over Salisbury
20-10 Ithaca over Frostburg
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 17, 2009, 09:29:09 PM
Well, got back from the NNA game.  It was definately cold and windy, at least for me on the camera platform!!  Not what I expected, but NNA played with spirit with it being homecoming and all.  Wesley had the ball for less than 20 minutes in the game!  Well, the next four are at home, so all is good!

I am really surprised at the Salisbury score and the MHB loss today.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 17, 2009, 11:08:44 PM
It's hard to believe as sloppy as the game was played(6 turnovers for each team) but Huntingdon puts up 784 yards on 102 offensive plays in a 53-34 win over Westminster. Two rushers over 100 yds each(Baronich and Manuel), two receivers over 100 yds each(Laye and Pearcy) and Ridgeway with a school record 441 yds passing. Overall a good day except for the turnovers on a cold, windy day in Fulton, Mo.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 18, 2009, 10:50:25 AM
well, well, well.  with umhb losing, i guess that will quell the ship wesley to the east talk for awhile.  if they win out, they would be the logical #1 seed in the south which would make for some very interesting games in dover.  the lake erie score is interesting in that maybe wesley will have a tougher game against lake erie than they did last year.  on the flip side, that would seem to mean that salisbury is not that good taking some of the edge off the rivalry game in 2 weeks.  sounds like wesley played a sloppy game, not what you want to have mid way through the season.  lets see how they bounce back this week against webber.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 18, 2009, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 18, 2009, 10:50:25 AM
well, well, well.  with umhb losing, i guess that will quell the ship wesley to the east talk for awhile.  if they win out, they would be the logical #1 seed in the south which would make for some very interesting games in dover.  the lake erie score is interesting in that maybe wesley will have a tougher game against lake erie than they did last year.  on the flip side, that would seem to mean that salisbury is not that good taking some of the edge off the rivalry game in 2 weeks.  sounds like wesley played a sloppy game, not what you want to have mid way through the season.  lets see how they bounce back this week against webber.

I don't think it was as sloppy as was seen last year, or even the year before.  It was the first cold game of the year, so it might be a case of acclimatization.  

I found the following facts on the Wesley site quite interesting.  It shows that the team is doing better than you might think:

"With two more touchdown catches, Ellis Krout has 12 on the season, just one from 10th place on Wesley's career list and four short of the school's single season mark.

Shane McSweeny tossed for three more touchdowns, giving him 19 on the season, one more than his total from the entire 2008 season.

The defense has 12 interceptions this season after just 10 all of last season.

The win lowered Wesley's scoring defense to just 7.0 points/game."

Add the fact that the turnover rate is most certainly down from the last couple years.  There is a lot to be positive about.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 18, 2009, 11:59:16 AM
 Salisbury gave up two td's in 18 secs early and fell behind 28-0 in the first 16 mins. They seemsed to play even after that.  I am sure they will be ready to play in two weeks because that game with Wesley will make their season.
Mc Sweeney didn't have one of his better days pssing  and still accounted for 4 tds and 300 yrds.
Missing 3 pat.s

 Wesley needs a few tougher games in the last few weeks to get them ready for a playoff run and Lake Erie , Salisbury and Ohio Dominican could be good tests.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 18, 2009, 12:20:48 PM
ski, good to hear from you.  I dont think anyone said that wesley was not doing well.  The stats are nice for the individuals and the defensive numbers are pretty impressive, but you have to look at the opposition, none have shown in any other game to be very potent offensively.  the turnovers being down is certainly a plus as that is what killed wesley the last 2 years.  how will this team respond when challenged by a team that is just as physical and quick as they are is what needs to be determined, hopefully salisbury, lake erie, and ohio dom will provide that challenge as pawesley stated.  it is tough going into the playoffs not having played a competitive game when some of the other teams have battled 4 or 5 times and are prepared for that knock down, drag out war.  umhb and miss college are 2 that come to mind in the south that will be just as big and strong as wesley.  hopes are high as they should be when you are ranked soon to be 4th in the nation.  Having a challenge to support that hope is what is needed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 18, 2009, 12:47:40 PM
 I watched the  UMHB/Miss Co game and neither team seems as fast as Wesley . What hurt UMHB IMHO was they when Miss Co.  got into the secondary there weren't enough people left to defend. They also gave up a lot of special team yards. Offensively it was tough to tell because they were missing Daniels and I think the other back broke his arm so Miss Co  keyed on the QB and then in crunch time they changed QB's. Miss Co had two big plays that led t scores. More than likely what happens now is a 4 team Texas bracket and a North Bracket but Wesley and Huntingdon have to win to get there
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 18, 2009, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 18, 2009, 12:47:40 PM
I watched the  UMHB/Miss Co game and neither team seems as fast as Wesley . What hurt UMHB IMHO was they when Miss Co.  got into the secondary there weren't enough people left to defend. They also gave up a lot of special team yards. Offensively it was tough to tell because they were missing Daniels and I think the other back broke his arm so Miss Co  keyed on the QB and then in crunch time they changed QB's. Miss Co had two big plays that led t scores. More than likely what happens now is a 4 team Texas bracket and a North Bracket but Wesley and Huntingdon have to win to get there
The only four team sub-bracket for the South involving Texas that I can imagine is this:

#1) Miss College  Pool A
#4) Huntingdon College  Pool B

#2) Millsaps College SCAC Pool A
#3) UMHB   Pool C

At most, one plane flight.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 18, 2009, 03:01:28 PM
Ralph

I need a geography leason !!! LOL
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 18, 2009, 03:05:44 PM
I think that this game was just to shake off some rust for the Wolverines. They should be up to speed when we see Webber next week.

As far as facing potent offenses go, Wesley handled Del Val nicely. I think with the Lake Erie win yesterday, puts more of a focus on playing well here on out. Look for Ohio Dominican to be interesting as well. But these games and the Salisbury game will help the Wolverines on playing good clean football, and I think will help them to some extent in the playoffs.

One thing to work on however, penalties. I think they are averaging over 100 yards a game in penalty yardage.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 18, 2009, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 18, 2009, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 18, 2009, 12:47:40 PM
I watched the  UMHB/Miss Co game and neither team seems as fast as Wesley . What hurt UMHB IMHO was they when Miss Co.  got into the secondary there weren't enough people left to defend. They also gave up a lot of special team yards. Offensively it was tough to tell because they were missing Daniels and I think the other back broke his arm so Miss Co  keyed on the QB and then in crunch time they changed QB's. Miss Co had two big plays that led t scores. More than likely what happens now is a 4 team Texas bracket and a North Bracket but Wesley and Huntingdon have to win to get there
The only four team sub-bracket for the South involving Texas that I can imagine is this:

#1) Miss College  Pool A
#4) Huntingdon College  Pool B

#2) Millsaps College SCAC Pool A
#3) UMHB   Pool C

At most, one plane flight.

Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 18, 2009, 03:01:28 PM
Ralph

I need a geography lesson !!! LOL


Huntingdon to Miss College is 256 miles.

UMHB to Millsaps is 493 miles.

Millsaps vs MissCollege is the projected second round game.  Every other matchup is a plane flight.

In the upper South Region,

Wesley Pool B versus USA South (NCWC)  Pool A

W&J (If they win...) vs. Centennial survivor
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSC85 on October 18, 2009, 04:14:26 PM
Ralph,

Where does the ODAC winner go.  It looks like it will be RMC or HSC.  Do they go to the East Region.  It would make more sense to send the Centennial winner to east and the ODAC winner to W&J or Thomas Moore.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 18, 2009, 04:29:38 PM
Quote from: HSC85 on October 18, 2009, 04:14:26 PM
Ralph,

Where does the ODAC winner go.  It looks like it will be RMC or HSC.  Do they go to the East Region.  It would make more sense to send the Centennial winner to east and the ODAC winner to W&J or Thomas Moore.
Boink!!

My bad!!

ODAC is probably the #3 seed in that sub-bracket.

Let's shift the Centennial to the East Region!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 18, 2009, 04:53:36 PM
Sorry to drag this a bit off topic.....but, has there been a final ruling on whether or not Wesley can host playoff games? Its been back and forth and Ive heard a lot of different things.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 18, 2009, 05:38:36 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 18, 2009, 04:53:36 PM
Sorry to drag this a bit off topic.....but, has there been a final ruling on whether or not Wesley can host playoff games? Its been back and forth and Ive heard a lot of different things.

thewaterboy


  Not sure . Haven't heard anymore about it
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 18, 2009, 09:29:08 PM
now we need Wesley to pound Webber next week (NNA at Webber on Halloween)  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 18, 2009, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 18, 2009, 12:20:48 PM
ski, good to hear from you.  I dont think anyone said that wesley was not doing well.  The stats are nice for the individuals and the defensive numbers are pretty impressive, but you have to look at the opposition, none have shown in any other game to be very potent offensively.  the turnovers being down is certainly a plus as that is what killed wesley the last 2 years.  how will this team respond when challenged by a team that is just as physical and quick as they are is what needs to be determined, hopefully salisbury, lake erie, and ohio dom will provide that challenge as pawesley stated.  it is tough going into the playoffs not having played a competitive game when some of the other teams have battled 4 or 5 times and are prepared for that knock down, drag out war.  umhb and miss college are 2 that come to mind in the south that will be just as big and strong as wesley.  hopes are high as they should be when you are ranked soon to be 4th in the nation.  Having a challenge to support that hope is what is needed.

I agree.  K-Mack mentioned this very thing in the podcast two weeks ago.  I do think that Wesley will be well set up with the likes of Lake Erie and Ohio Dominican, both over .500 this year.  Of course, you can bet that Salisbury will be keyed up and ready to play toe-to-toe with Wesley.
If there is one game that would salvage the season, it would be this one!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 18, 2009, 11:52:31 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 18, 2009, 09:29:08 PM
now we need Wesley to pound Webber next week (NNA at Webber on Halloween)  ;D


Ah Halloween. Strange things can happen on Halloween. There will be some big match-up that day!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 19, 2009, 08:56:12 AM
yeah something about the number 13 comes to my mind :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pumkinattack on October 20, 2009, 10:05:30 AM
I moved down to Atlanta from NYC over the summer and just realized there's a DIII team in state (LaGrange).  Anyone on here want to share anything about this school and program.  The team will never be my first love, but maybe it can be a distant second and a place I can go from time to time (my father-in-law's a big Ga Tech booster, so generally good seats at those games will get first crack) and follow this school.  Are they heading to another conference after leaving the SLIAC or and they screwed as an independent with a bad travel schedule (ala Wesley). 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on October 20, 2009, 10:49:30 AM
Pumkinattack: My son is a senior at LaGrange--he's been with them for all four seasons. I am fairly certain they will find another conference, but the sliackers pulled a fast one late in the game and they had to scramble to even put together a full schedule, let alone get into a conference.

Still you can see some good football there--though not of Wesley's caliber, yet. Final home game is this Saturday. It's a nice stadium and plenty of parking with good tailgating.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. By the way, I'm a Tech fan too.

Come and take in the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pumkinattack on October 20, 2009, 10:58:00 AM
Thanks for the response.  To clarify, I'm a Hobart and William Smith alum (former player) from the Liberty League in the east region, I was just referencing Wesley because LaGrange's travel looks nasty by comparison.  I may not make the game on Sat., but if not, look forward to checking some out in future years. 

It's hard being a Tech fan in Atl with all these heathens from Athens around.  Good to see some other support for the Ramblin Wreck. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 20, 2009, 01:38:10 PM
Pumkinattack, you also have Huntingdon a couple more hours down I85 past LaGrange in Montgomery. We host LaGrange on the 31st.  LaGrange looks like they are getting some people healthy and getting back to form after a rough patch early in the season. Huntingdon is in the running for a Pool B spot and I'm sure Lagrange would like to put a dent in those chances. Should be a very good game.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pumkinattack on October 20, 2009, 06:17:24 PM
Thanks for the info.  Haven't been into Alabama yet.  Maybe that'll be a game to go to. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 21, 2009, 03:34:28 PM
Well halfway through the week, and Wesley takes on Webber Intl. this weekend. Then it starts to get a little more competitive with Salisbury, Lake Erie, and Ohio Dominican.

This week, I think Wesley will let A-Jax get back into a groove and really start playing cleaner football. If they can minimize penalty yardage they have the ability to go places.

Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 21, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 21, 2009, 03:34:28 PM
Well halfway through the week, and Wesley takes on Webber Intl. this weekend. Then it starts to get a little more competitive with Salisbury, Lake Erie, and Ohio Dominican.

This week, I think Wesley will let A-Jax get back into a groove and really start playing cleaner football. If they can minimize penalty yardage they have the ability to go places.

Go Wesley!

Well stated.  Should be a good day Saturday, even if there are some rain drops here or there.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 22, 2009, 08:35:54 PM
Stay dry!  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 22, 2009, 10:49:04 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 22, 2009, 08:35:54 PM
Stay dry!  ;D

I'll try.

I know Wesley isn't taking Webber International lightly.  Even though they are 1-5, they have quite a few skilled players.  You can never tell with an NAIA or Division II team just how well you may match up.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2009, 06:11:16 PM
Ski

Not going to make it down this week. But I will next week as long as I have someone close to home to keep an eye on the wife. 

IMHO the team has to start steping it up for a playoff run.. Nothing is guarenteed with the low number of region games and these next few games are not going to be a cake walk.. Weber is hard to read but we know Salisbury is going to be up, Ohio Dominican appears to be a tough team and Lake Erie has been playing well .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 23, 2009, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2009, 06:11:16 PM
Ski

Not going to make it down this week. But I will next week as long as I have someone close to home to keep an eye on the wife.  

IMHO the team has to start steping it up for a playoff run.. Nothing is guarenteed with the low number of region games and these next few games are not going to be a cake walk.. Weber is hard to read but we know Salisbury is going to be up, Ohio Dominican appears to be a tough team and Lake Erie has been playing well .

Sorry you won't be able to make it.  I know how sensitive you are to rain, hehehehe.. ;D  

I completely agree with you.  Both Lake Erie and Ohio Dominican are over .500 which puts them on a different league from what Wesley has faced so far (with the exception of Del Val, of course).  And you know Salisbury is going to turn it up a notch for the Rivalry on the Highway.  Its definately what Wesley needs to keep it's players focused and in the game. Wesley will be earning it's bid this year.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2009, 10:17:04 PM
Ski 
  That's a low blow man!!!!  I actually went out and bought a rain suit last year for the games. Plus I may want to come down for the Ohio Dom.  game and then playoffs and I need a lot of honey-do points for all those trips!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 24, 2009, 12:07:06 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 20, 2009, 01:38:10 PM
Pumkinattack, you also have Huntingdon a couple more hours down I85 past LaGrange in Montgomery. We host LaGrange on the 31st.  LaGrange looks like they are getting some people healthy and getting back to form after a rough patch early in the season. Huntingdon is in the running for a Pool B spot and I'm sure Lagrange would like to put a dent in those chances. Should be a very good game.

Go Hawks!

Good luck to LaGrange and Huntingdon during the rest of the season.  Would have liked the USA-South to let you join the conference, but it seems like the conference gave you a run-around throughout the summer. 

Good games during the past several years between our teams.  I wonder if the incident with Huntingdon's fans & the MC cannon will jeopardize future games???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 24, 2009, 12:35:18 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 24, 2009, 12:07:06 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 20, 2009, 01:38:10 PM
Pumkinattack, you also have Huntingdon a couple more hours down I85 past LaGrange in Montgomery. We host LaGrange on the 31st.  LaGrange looks like they are getting some people healthy and getting back to form after a rough patch early in the season. Huntingdon is in the running for a Pool B spot and I'm sure Lagrange would like to put a dent in those chances. Should be a very good game.

Go Hawks!

Good luck to LaGrange and Huntingdon during the rest of the season.  Would have liked the USA-South to let you join the conference, but it seems like the conference gave you a run-around throughout the summer.  

Good games during the past several years between our teams.  I wonder if the incident with Huntingdon's fans & the MC cannon will jeopardize future games???
My guess is that Shenandoah joins the ODAC as a football affiliate in 2010 or 2011 to make an even 8 football teams in the conference and joins the CSAC as a full member in everything else.  (Shenandoah's joining in 2010-11 would save the Pool A bid of the CSAC in baseball.)

The USA South is then left with going with the division format with a 5 or 6 team men's GSAC/USA South divisions to preserve the AQ.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 24, 2009, 06:50:21 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 24, 2009, 12:07:06 AM
Good luck to LaGrange and Huntingdon during the rest of the season.  Would have liked the USA-South to let you join the conference, but it seems like the conference gave you a run-around throughout the summer.

Good games during the past several years between our teams.  I wonder if the incident with Huntingdon's fans & the MC cannon will jeopardize future games???
I sure hope you are kidding. I would never think that the cannon thing would bring a halt to this series.
Good luck to you guys the rest of the way too.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 24, 2009, 09:10:29 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2009, 10:17:04 PM
Ski 
  That's a low blow man!!!!  I actually went out and bought a rain suit last year for the games. Plus I may want to come down for the Ohio Dom.  game and then playoffs and I need a lot of honey-do points for all those trips!!!

I know you are hardcore, hehehehe.....  Well, hope to see you there, then.  It is definately turning out to be a wet and windy day so far.  Luckily, the temps are quite a bit warmer than the NNA game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 24, 2009, 12:32:53 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 24, 2009, 09:10:29 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2009, 10:17:04 PM
Ski 
  That's a low blow man!!!!  I actually went out and bought a rain suit last year for the games. Plus I may want to come down for the Ohio Dom.  game and then playoffs and I need a lot of honey-do points for all those trips!!!

I know you are hardcore, hehehehe.....  Well, hope to see you there, then.  It is definately turning out to be a wet and windy day so far.  Luckily, the temps are quite a bit warmer than the NNA game.

-Ski




Anything would be a bit warmer than the temps last week for our game - but Im sure you liked the press box for halftime - heck most people weve had in there in ages :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 24, 2009, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 24, 2009, 12:32:53 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 24, 2009, 09:10:29 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2009, 10:17:04 PM
Ski  
 That's a low blow man!!!!  I actually went out and bought a rain suit last year for the games. Plus I may want to come down for the Ohio Dom.  game and then playoffs and I need a lot of honey-do points for all those trips!!!

I know you are hardcore, hehehehe.....  Well, hope to see you there, then.  It is definately turning out to be a wet and windy day so far.  Luckily, the temps are quite a bit warmer than the NNA game.

-Ski




Anything would be a bit warmer than the temps last week for our game - but Im sure you liked the press box for halftime - heck most people weve had in there in ages :)

You are not kidding.  The pizza didn't hurt either, hehehehehe.....  Oh I needed to get out of the cold for a bit.  I sure felt sorry for the bell ringers.  They were woefully ill prepared.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 24, 2009, 04:47:15 PM
All right, Wesley 34-7 over Webber International.  Another rather ugly game, but I felt really good about it nonetheless.  What wesley did in the air against NNA, they certainly did it on the ground against Webber.  Aaron Jackson was on fire with 23 runs for 173 yards with 260 all purpose!  Amazing.  I really love the flexability Wesley has to deal with any defense so far either on the ground or in the air.  Webber started to blitz at the end of the first half, but the offense adjusted with a couple screens that pretty much neutralized the threat.

The defense held Webber to under 200 yards total and did a great job holding the rushing to less than 50 yards for the game.

I knew there was going to be some skirmishing even before the game started.  #98, Shawn Turner from Webber was already talking garbage during warm-ups and had to be pulled away by a teammate.  Sure enough, he caused a double personal foul in the 3rd when he elbowed Wesley's center, Fox, in the face, which caused quite a commotion in the middle of the field.  Some people, hey?


Wesley ended up having only 4 fouls and 1 fumble.  I liked how they handled the game, both in the booth and on the field.  Now to work on their discipline this next week in preparation for the Route 13 Rivalry with Salisbury.

The rain held off for the most part, but the wind was really howling.  Nice and warm, though.


-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 24, 2009, 07:28:28 PM
Nice homecoming win for Huntingdon over Greenville today 40-14. We didn't get 100 offensive snaps like the last three games but we did have over 500 yds of offense. Great job by the defense to hold GC to 175 yds total offense and kept their option attack in check for the most part.
Looking forward to a big matchup with LaGrange next week.


Go Hawks!

Nice presentation before the game of Huntingdon's 1985-88 NAIA national championship golf teams. Got to catch up with some old friends during the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 24, 2009, 10:39:34 PM
With the Webber game over, the Wolverines enter the stretch run. Salisbury, Lake Erie, and Ohio Dominican. So with these games Id like to see the Wolverines buckle down and play some outstanding football, not to mention the 5 games that could possibly be tacked on to the Wolverines season in the playoffs. Not really too much to complain about except for the drive where Wesley committed penalty after penalty, despite most of those being declined. Defense and Aaron Jackson are both fully functional which is nice to see. Once again more work to be done for the #3 Wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 25, 2009, 08:50:11 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 24, 2009, 07:28:28 PM
Nice homecoming win for Huntingdon over Greenville today 40-14. We didn't get 100 offensive snaps like the last three games but we did have over 500 yds of offense. Great job by the defense to hold GC to 175 yds total offense and kept their option attack in check for the most part.
Looking forward to a big matchup with LaGrange next week.


Go Hawks!

Nice presentation before the game of Huntingdon's 1985-88 NAIA national championship golf teams. Got to catch up with some old friends during the game.

Big isn't the word for it.  That is a huge battle of independents!  The Huntingdon-LaGrange game is one I wish I could be there for!!  Good luck.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on October 25, 2009, 05:06:24 PM
Congrats to HC and LC on their homecoming wins over a couple northern sliackers.

HC is sure having a great season. Hope our guys go into Montgomery ready to play. I'll see you there!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 26, 2009, 03:47:18 PM
Well, #3 Wesley battles Salisbury this weekend in the perennial Route 13 Rivalry game.  Funny to think that whoever wins will take the ACFC!  Another game that Wesley needs to take seriously as you know Salisbury will be up for a fight to salvage the year.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 26, 2009, 05:59:21 PM
I was at the Salisbury/Union game.....it hurts me to say it, but I was not impressed with my Gulls. Defense has Cynewski at end (who is the best player on the defense and should get some all-american consideration IMO) and some others but there were a lot of open receivers for Union. They play very hard but lack speed this year. The offense was not sharp, the execution was not crisp enough, Union was giving up ground but SU did not capitalize on drives. I hope for the best against Wesley, but I think we are out-gunned this year too......anyway I'll be there pulling for them-GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 27, 2009, 07:06:22 PM
Cant make it out to the game this weekend. There was a chance but I have too much going on. You can bet Ill be listening though.  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 27, 2009, 07:33:53 PM
 We'll be making the trip to Dover this weekend.. Looks like it could be another rainy Saturday.. And if there's weather near by you can count on that famous cross  field wind!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 28, 2009, 08:18:35 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 27, 2009, 07:33:53 PM
We'll be making the trip to Dover this weekend.. Looks like it could be another rainy Saturday.. And if there's weather near by you can count on that famous cross  field wind!!

wind...at a Wesley game..... really now :o......I never wouldve believed that ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 28, 2009, 08:47:26 AM
Quote from: nnasid on October 28, 2009, 08:18:35 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 27, 2009, 07:33:53 PM
We'll be making the trip to Dover this weekend.. Looks like it could be another rainy Saturday.. And if there's weather near by you can count on that famous cross  field wind!!

wind...at a Wesley game..... really now :o......I never wouldve believed that ;D  ;D  ;D

Yep.  It makes the game look like an Australian boomerang festival.... :P

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 28, 2009, 06:25:51 PM
pawesley, teamski, subacker, et al.  I will be heading down to dover this week hoping for a good game.  Since it is Halloween I think the students are planning a costume tailgate so that may be show enough.  Salisbury seems to be down this week and the offense does not seem nearly as explosive so this could get ugly if Wesley protects the ball which they have not done as well lately.  The penalties are a concern since you cant keep giving away yards against good teams.  They need to win out to keep the home field for the region which is huge.  I hope they havent peaked and leveled off as they have seemed to do the past couple of years.  They still need to play a tough game before the end of the season, hopefully the rivalry will produce that.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 28, 2009, 07:09:59 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 28, 2009, 06:25:51 PM
pawesley, teamski, subacker, et al.  I will be heading down to dover this week hoping for a good game.  Since it is Halloween I think the students are planning a costume tailgate so that may be show enough.  Salisbury seems to be down this week and the offense does not seem nearly as explosive so this could get ugly if Wesley protects the ball which they have not done as well lately.  The penalties are a concern since you cant keep giving away yards against good teams.  They need to win out to keep the home field for the region which is huge.  I hope they havent peaked and leveled off as they have seemed to do the past couple of years.  They still need to play a tough game before the end of the season, hopefully the rivalry will produce that.

In my personal opinion, the practices are more intense now than they were at the beginning of the year.  The team is definately focused.


-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 29, 2009, 12:32:28 AM
http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/south/2009/A+year+later%2C+Huntingdon+still+working+for+its+moment

Good job, Jason!

Huntingdon/LaGrange has the makings of a great rivalry!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 29, 2009, 02:05:10 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 29, 2009, 12:32:28 AM
http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/south/2009/A+year+later%2C+Huntingdon+still+working+for+its+moment

Good job, Jason!

Huntingdon/LaGrange has the makings of a great rivalry!

No doubt.  I am really looking forward to seeing how this game plays out.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 29, 2009, 03:16:51 PM
I think that the Wolverines will indeed have their hands full for the next 3 games. Salisbury in the rivalry, a Lake Erie team that beat Salisbury, and an NAIA ranked Ohio Dominican. With each team a little tougher than the next, Wesley should have a good prep for the playoffs (as long as no one is punching anyone).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 29, 2009, 06:15:23 PM
ski, practice intensity does not mean much if it does not translate to the game.  Wesley has been very good and I am sure they had intensity in practice the last couple of years at the end of the season.  You, as have I, have seen this team reach a certain level during the season and then not improve to the level needed to defeat the top teams that you have to beat to win the whole thing, which is what we all want, at least I hope so.  Having traveled to UWWW and UMHB in the last couple of years and taking a trip to see Mount Union play last year in the semis, those teams have been able to raise it to another level while Wesley has not been able to.  Winning all the games in the season is great, but not enough if you dont get to the big dance, ask any of the players who were around the last 4 - 5 years and I am sure they will say that they are disappointed in not playing in the Stagg Bowl. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 29, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 29, 2009, 06:15:23 PM
ski, practice intensity does not mean much if it does not translate to the game.  Wesley has been very good and I am sure they had intensity in practice the last couple of years at the end of the season.  You, as have I, have seen this team reach a certain level during the season and then not improve to the level needed to defeat the top teams that you have to beat to win the whole thing, which is what we all want, at least I hope so.  Having traveled to UWWW and UMHB in the last couple of years and taking a trip to see Mount Union play last year in the semis, those teams have been able to raise it to another level while Wesley has not been able to.  Winning all the games in the season is great, but not enough if you dont get to the big dance, ask any of the players who were around the last 4 - 5 years and I am sure they will say that they are disappointed in not playing in the Stagg Bowl. 

Well stated.  I suppose all we can do is hope for the best and feel fortunate that the team is as good as it is.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 29, 2009, 07:29:36 PM
We got the players to get us there. Its going to be interesting to see how this year pans out for all of D3. Anyway, theres only one more day until another good dose of football is headed our way, gotta love Saturdays.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 29, 2009, 07:58:01 PM
US Football on verses wesley's B Rob may be playing
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on October 30, 2009, 10:43:53 AM
Quote from: Teamski on October 29, 2009, 02:05:10 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 29, 2009, 12:32:28 AM
http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/south/2009/A+year+later%2C+Huntingdon+still+working+for+its+moment

Good job, Jason!

Huntingdon/LaGrange has the makings of a great rivalry!

No doubt.  I am really looking forward to seeing how this game plays out.

-Ski

I believe the Panthers have had this game in the back of their minds all season. Hope it's a good one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 30, 2009, 11:14:48 AM
Quote from: The Forgotten Man on October 30, 2009, 10:43:53 AM
Quote from: Teamski on October 29, 2009, 02:05:10 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 29, 2009, 12:32:28 AM
http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/south/2009/A+year+later%2C+Huntingdon+still+working+for+its+moment

Good job, Jason!

Huntingdon/LaGrange has the makings of a great rivalry!

No doubt.  I am really looking forward to seeing how this game plays out.

-Ski

I believe the Panthers have had this game in the back of their minds all season. Hope it's a good one.
Looks like it could be a rainy day tomorrow. Hopefully not enough to affect the game too much. We're looking forward to a good game.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on October 31, 2009, 08:11:23 AM
The Bh2hards are packing lunch getting ready to go to Dover to see what should be a Good game,,lots of speed on the field today !!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 31, 2009, 08:58:56 AM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on October 31, 2009, 08:11:23 AM
The Bh2hards are packing lunch getting ready to go to Dover to see what should be a Good game,,lots of speed on the field today !!

No doubt.  I know Salisbury has a real turn of speed.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pumkinattack on October 31, 2009, 09:42:33 AM
Good luck to LaGrange today.  I was hoping to see the local Ga DIII rep in action this year, but it wasn't meant to be.  I look forward to seeing them in action next year and wish them success with the rest of this season. 

Maybe we can get a travel game between LaGrange and my alma mater, Hobart, going in the future.  A North-South exchange, so to speak. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 31, 2009, 06:30:10 PM
Wesley takes the ACFC Championship game over Salisbury, 30-12.  The game was full of penalties (13 for 113 for Wesley)  but it did feature an ultra rare 2 point conversion return when Marcus Wilson intercepted the ball in the endzone and ran it back....Some real oddities this year in special teams.  First, the field-goal return by Del Val and Wilson returns a 2 point conversion.  Interesting.

More to work on this week and then onto Lake Erie......

It was nice to see PA_Weselyfan and Wesleydad today!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 31, 2009, 06:32:37 PM
That's wild.  You all were right with Webber.  Had a pre-game skirmish (more woofin than anything).  Builders lose 17-14.
But ya know, when your rental car order gets messed up (booked by corporate for Newport News pickup instead of Orlando) and you get a convertible for the same price - ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2009, 06:41:31 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 31, 2009, 06:32:37 PM
That's wild.  You all were right with Webber.  Had a pre-game skirmish (more woofin than anything).  Builders lose 17-14.
But ya know, when your rental car order gets messed up (booked by corporate for Newport News pickup instead of Orlando) and you get a convertible for the same price - ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;D
Wow!  How did you arrange that?  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 31, 2009, 06:43:31 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 31, 2009, 06:32:37 PM
That's wild.  You all were right with Webber.  Had a pre-game skirmish (more woofin than anything).  Builders lose 17-14.
But ya know, when your rental car order gets messed up (booked by corporate for Newport News pickup instead of Orlando) and you get a convertible for the same price - ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;D

I bet #98 had a lot to do with it.... ::)  Sorry you guys couldn't eek out a win.... :-\

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 31, 2009, 07:03:09 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2009, 06:41:31 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 31, 2009, 06:32:37 PM
That's wild.  You all were right with Webber.  Had a pre-game skirmish (more woofin than anything).  Builders lose 17-14.
But ya know, when your rental car order gets messed up (booked by corporate for Newport News pickup instead of Orlando) and you get a convertible for the same price - ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;D
Wow!  How did you arrange that?  ;D

I dont know but when I was waiting for the buses to pull out this morning lets just say I had a few .. shall we say semi-pleasantries (wink) thrown my way for my ride while they bussed  ;D - said with nothing but love of course
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 31, 2009, 09:40:10 PM
Big day for Huntingdon with a 51-13 win over LaGrange. Alex Baronich with a school single game record 287 yds and I think single season record 944 yds and 13 TD's on the season either ties or breaks the school record, not sure on that one. Keith Anthony with a school single game record 3 int's and school season record 8 int's.
Hawks jumped out to a quick 21-0 lead with 5:49 left in the first and never looked back. A very good game all round for the Hawks.
Looking forward now to the first ever match-up with Birmingham-Southern.


Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 31, 2009, 09:59:09 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 31, 2009, 09:40:10 PM
Big day for Huntingdon with a 51-13 win over LaGrange. Alex Baronich with a school single game record 287 yds and I think single season record 944 yds and 13 TD's on the season either ties or breaks the school record, not sure on that one. Keith Anthony with a school single game record 3 int's and school season record 8 int's.
Hawks jumped out to a quick 21-0 lead with 5:49 left in the first and never looked back. A very good game all round for the Hawks.
Looking forward now to the first ever match-up with Birmingham-Southern.


Go Hawks!

That was quite the stonking!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 01, 2009, 11:00:48 AM
I was quite impressed by the Wesley D yesterday,,very aggressive .The officials left a lot to be desired ,,a couple calls really hurt Salisbury,,but they missed calls both ways,,and a lot of 5 yd penalties both ways,, Wesley d needed to watch the ball,, and  Gulls O needed to know the count ,, but it was a hard hitting game,, fun to watch
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 01, 2009, 06:03:00 PM
Sounded like a miserable day when it came to the weather. The D had another great performance but there were almost 100 yards in penalties (I am not counting the 15 yard penalty for Morgan leading with the helmet). Wesley needs to cut back on those if they want to compete at a higher level than they are but it seems that most of those penalties were on special teams and most of them were on the same person. A Jax and McSweeny both had 60+ yards on the ground which is good to see. It seems that McSweeny has been less accurate compared to last year, looking at INTs. The recievers havent helped much but he hasnt made that great of decisions on some of his passes. More to work on next week vs. Lake Erie.

But the Wolverines are still putting up 30+ points a game, and playing fantastic D, so you take em anyway they come.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 01, 2009, 06:06:54 PM
good to see teamski and pawesleyfan at the game yesterday.  Defensively, Wesley looks very good.  Still quick to the ball and very athletic.  Offensively, something is missing.  Not much flow to the game yesterday with some bad interceptions.  Aaron Jackson returning to form is a plus which will make it tougher on teams defensives.  The penalties are very bad, too many personal fouls.  The kick coverage was very poor and then they would compound it with penalties.  Salisbury started too many drives near mid field.  As I stated earlier, I hope the team has not peaked too soon on offense as they have the last couple of years.  The next 2 weeks should be a good test for the offense.  Lake Erie seems to have improved drastically from the team I saw last year when Wesley could have scored 70 on them.  They held Salisbury to only 7 and have been tough late in the season on defense.  Keep winning and play at home in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 02, 2009, 12:49:24 PM
My appolgies to Mike Asiedu.  He, not Marcus Wilson, returned the 2 point conversion against Salisbury.   :-\

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 02, 2009, 03:14:18 PM
SU was just not as good as Wesley saturday....can't blame the officials.....it is what it is. They play very hard, and if they can eliminate the mental mistakes maybe they win out, but they are a notch below Wesley. They go down to play what appears to be a good Hampden Sidney unit this weekend. Can't get down there, but I would really like to see that game. Then they have the Regents Cup game against in state rival Frostburg @ home, which is always tough against us regardless of the records. My question is -does SU get a ECAC bowl game is they win out?...If they do they will finish 6-4 with some tough games in the loss column. Losing to the #3 team should not hurt them, as well as some quality wins-i.e. St. John Fisher, Union, which should help. I think they may deserve bowl consideration even if they go 5-5, but I am obviously biased. What do you all think?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 02, 2009, 03:21:03 PM
oops....Hampden-Sydney (Sidney?...sorry)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 02, 2009, 04:23:21 PM
SU Backer

That's a tough question to answer about the ECAC bid. I have seen them take teams  over teams with better records but you never know who ends up sending in the paperwork to get bids. There have been cases where teams(coaches) haven't wanted to play.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 02, 2009, 04:38:37 PM
I agree...one year SU went with a .500 record and wound up beating Delaware Valley @ DV....some don't think much of the ECAC bowls, but I disagree for several reasons. First it gives the team another week of practice and a extra game against a good team that they usually would not see, which helps the coaches and players that are returning the next season. Secondly it gives the seniors one more chance to play a game that 99.9% of them will never play again. And lastly it gives the parents one last time to watch their sons play the game that they love. It ends way too soon.....Go Gulls
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 02, 2009, 05:55:55 PM
SUBacker

+1 K

I agree with you.. Good points all!! 
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Post by: thewaterboy on November 04, 2009, 03:14:51 PM
Quick question:

Does Krout lead D3 in Recieving TDs?
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 04, 2009, 04:09:26 PM
waterboy

you can go to the ncaa site . they have stats for DIII there
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 04, 2009, 04:31:03 PM
Conrad

check your messages ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 05, 2009, 05:49:36 PM
Hey SU gang....there is talk on the ODAC board about "how badly HSC beats Salisbury"  >:(...win, lose or draw you all need to get down there and lay the WOOD on those guys. Make sure they know that you came to play. GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleyuncle on November 05, 2009, 11:53:20 PM
My brothers daughter goes to Wesley.  She said that a footbal player was dismissed on Sunday from the team and the College.  Anybody know what this is about?  She said he was a star player.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on November 06, 2009, 12:38:46 AM
Quote from: SU Backer on November 05, 2009, 05:49:36 PM
Hey SU gang....there is talk on the ODAC board about "how badly HSC beats Salisbury"  >:(...win, lose or draw you all need to get down there and lay the WOOD on those guys. Make sure they know that you came to play. GO GULLS!

Just to clarify, that comment was made (by only one poster) after someone wondered what the playoff chances would be if HSC loses the AQ to Randolph-Macon in week 11. It's speculation, not a prediction. Trust me, the Tigers know they're in for a tough game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 06, 2009, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: wesleyuncle on November 05, 2009, 11:53:20 PM
My brothers daughter goes to Wesley.  She said that a footbal player was dismissed on Sunday from the team and the College.  Anybody know what this is about?  She said he was a star player.

I have not heard anything about this, but hopefully not.

Anyway, reading the Plain Dealer this morning, LEC apparently thinks Wesley isnt as tough as last year. I dont know if it was the 26 unanswered points last year (which wasnt really anything since we practically had the backups of the backups in), or what. I still think that LEC has a little ways to go from what Ive seen on SportsTime Ohio when they played Gannon at the beginning of the year. Also, they are really high on their QB Sean Bedevelsky who can run and pass. Kind of like Mike Isgro or Shane McSweeny.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 06, 2009, 04:28:44 PM
From one who has seen both teams
Lake Erie runs a lot of Salisbury formations with a QB that can hit the deep shot.  They are markedly improved from last year - I hope for their sake its not a four-game winning streak talking.

But playing Wesley in the Windy Wolftrap  ;D is a whole different animal (yes puns intended).

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 06, 2009, 04:59:58 PM
  nnasid

What? No prediction???

Wesley's pass coverage has been pretty good. Salisbury ran that a couple of rinkles on the sweep that gained some yards but I think a QB who keeps the ball will have a tough time gaining yards against the front .   
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Post by: wesleydad on November 06, 2009, 10:12:43 PM
ok, time to spell the rumors.  aaron jackson will likely play saturday despite his flu like symptons this week.  the other situation, a tough one has mcsweeney not playing this week but still in school.  I believe he will play next week.  hopefully, the team will do what is needed to handle lake erie who i saw last year and was not at all impressed by what they brought to the field.  wesley could have scored 70 so even without the starting QB, they should win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleyuncle on November 06, 2009, 10:46:53 PM
My niece told us at dinner tonight that Shane McSweeny, quarterback, was removed from the campus for something that happened last Saturday night that involved another student. Did he practice this week? Rumors and unsubstantiated second hand information not appropriate to post here until the University releases a statement or a Police report ends up in the newpaper.  Does anyone know what the deal is with this?   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 06, 2009, 10:54:43 PM
Call me a skeptic, but I always wonder when someone who has never posted here suddenly comes on and starts digging for dirt.    Three posts by you, three posts on this topic.
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 06, 2009, 11:03:15 PM
wesleydad

I am making the trip tomorrow. Are you going to Del Val /Albright?



 
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 06, 2009, 11:04:25 PM
Thank you Ron!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 07, 2009, 07:34:34 AM
Quote from: wesleyuncle on November 06, 2009, 10:46:53 PM
My niece told us at dinner tonight that Shane McSweeny, quarterback, was removed from the campus for something that happened last Saturday night that involved another student. Did he practice this week? Rumors and unsubstantiated second hand information not appropriate to post here until the University releases a statement or a Police report ends up in the newpaper.  Does anyone know what the deal is with this?   

Didn't you just post unsubstantiated second hand information and then call it unappropriate???

What's your angle?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 07, 2009, 07:46:42 AM
paweslyfan, yes, i am planning on going to the del val/ albright game.  it should be a good one, at least on paper.

as far as the other situation, From what I hear, I don't expect the University to release a statement nor will there be a police report.  Ron and Dedragon, I agree totally.
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Post by: muledaddy on November 07, 2009, 09:27:50 AM

Wesleydad,

Enjoy the game at Delval..I would be there if my Mules weren't playing in my backyard against Ursinus.
Have a great day....Hope all continues well for the Wolverines.....
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Post by: Teamski on November 07, 2009, 10:00:00 AM
Yep, its going to be a great football day today.  The weather is perfect this time around.  I'm definately pumped up.  This game will be a good test for wesley in dealing with a Lake Erie that is better than it was last year.  As long as the defense can keep the QB in check, Wesley should have the game in the bag. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 07, 2009, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 06, 2009, 04:59:58 PM
  nnasid

What? No prediction???

Wesley's pass coverage has been pretty good. Salisbury ran that a couple of rinkles on the sweep that gained some yards but I think a QB who keeps the ball will have a tough time gaining yards against the front .   

I quit on the predictions after (unfortunately) nailing our score last week for the local paper (Webber 17-14) ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 07, 2009, 02:10:31 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 07, 2009, 01:47:19 PM
Wesley 14, Lake Erie 0 10:38 2Q.
Wesley 14, Lake Erie 0 at the half.

Great broadcast, Jason.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 07, 2009, 04:17:52 PM
Well, I just got back from a very good game.  Wesley won 28-13 in it's first "charactor" game of the year.  Hats off to the defense and the play of Justin Sottilaire, filling in for McSweeney.  I can't remember the last game where I saw a defense hold on a 1st and goal on the 1 yard line, TWICE in one game.  Wow!   Add a blocked field goal and some sweet sacks to round it all off.   Division II Lake Erie ended the season 7-4.

Aaron Jackson played really well today.  Cudos for sticking it out.

This is definately a game that Wesley needed.  It and the game next week against  Ohio Dominican who beat Lake Erie this year, will set up Wesley well for the tough competition coming up in the post season.  The team really enjoyed this win.  Now they will focus solely on Ohio Dominican, knowing that it will be another challenging game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 07, 2009, 05:27:39 PM
Sounds like it was a good win for Wesley with all the distractions this week.  I agree Ski, a tough win sets things up better for the playoffs.  It looks like Hampden-Sydney may be a tough team with the trouncing they put on Salisbury today.  Hopefully, this coming week things will get back to normal and the team can start stepping it up for the playoff run.  The defense is going to be the key to how far this years team goes in the playoffs, if they keep the opponents in the teens, Wesley will be tough to beat.  I will likely see you next weekend for the Ohio Dominican game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 07, 2009, 07:22:16 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 07, 2009, 02:10:31 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 07, 2009, 01:47:19 PM
Wesley 14, Lake Erie 0 10:38 2Q.
Wesley 14, Lake Erie 0 at the half.

Great broadcast, Jason.

Thanks Ralph, sorry that the Cowboys got the best of you, but it's been a great turnaround year for McMurry. I will be very interested to see what Coach Mumme and his staff can do with a full off season of recruiting and  quality weight program.
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Post by: thewaterboy on November 07, 2009, 07:59:15 PM
A lot of positives for the Wolverines coming out of this game. A Jax was a stud, Sottilare was proved to get the job done in place of McSweeny, the defense was stellar. Penalties did not hurt the Wolverines and they kept the penalty yardage to a minimum. Not really any complaints looking at this game, on to ODU.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 07, 2009, 08:13:19 PM
I was impressed again by the Wesley D,,well prepared and very,very aggressive .
Lake Erie had some good athletes, but they were rarely able to get started to make the big plays they were capable of making. Thought # 1 the TE for wesley came thru today,,some nice catches,,and Goal Line D was great ,,but I really question some of L Erie's play calling when they were down close,,another good day for the Wolverines,,,in a stressful week !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 07, 2009, 09:36:21 PM
Impressive win for Huntingdon today over B'ham-Southern 59-28. 693 total yards for HC, 361 on the ground, 332 through the air. Defense gave up a little more rushing yds. than we would have liked but BSC's two running backs are pretty good. Alex Baronich becomes our first 1000 yd rusher today. Congrats, Alex.
On to the playoffs!


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 07, 2009, 09:43:56 PM
More highway robbery(officiating incompetence) in the SEC today. LSU robbed of an interception in the 4th qtr. Pass called incomplete and the replay shows the guy obviously caught the ball with a foot in bounds and the replay official doesn't overturn it? I mean, what else do you need to see for that to be called a catch? Pitiful. The SEC has a serious problem.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 07, 2009, 10:23:22 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 07, 2009, 05:27:39 PM
Sounds like it was a good win for Wesley with all the distractions this week.  I agree Ski, a tough win sets things up better for the playoffs.  It looks like Hampden-Sydney may be a tough team with the trouncing they put on Salisbury today.  Hopefully, this coming week things will get back to normal and the team can start stepping it up for the playoff run.  The defense is going to be the key to how far this years team goes in the playoffs, if they keep the opponents in the teens, Wesley will be tough to beat.  I will likely see you next weekend for the Ohio Dominican game.

Ohio Dominican Won again today 42-23, improving their record to 7-2 with a 6 game win streak.  They are currently ranked #20 on the NAIA charts.  A definate challenge!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 08, 2009, 11:07:09 AM
Checking the Lake Erie site brought up this factoid:

"Wesley outgained the Storm 356-235, including a 180-89 edge in rushing yards. It was the first time all season Lake Erie was held under 100 rushing and 300 total yards in a game."

That says a lot about the defense, considering the DII competition that LE went up against this year!  Sweet.

-Ski
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Post by: wesleydad on November 08, 2009, 06:59:47 PM
Ski, is there any change in the game time for this weekend?  I heard the game might be at 10.  Going out for dinner with some friends at a very good microbrew restaurant in Downingtown, may be tough to get up that early to get to Dover for a 10:00 game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 08, 2009, 07:12:59 PM
I'll have to check.  That doesn't sound right, but you never know.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 08, 2009, 07:27:37 PM
  They have moved games up to noon before in Nov. other than the playoffs... beenhit2hard notice a few receivers motioning that the sun was in there eyes late in the game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 08, 2009, 10:39:47 PM
Am I hearing this right? Will there be an early morning game for the Wolverines?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 09, 2009, 08:55:12 AM
Pa Wes,,the sun was a factor on 3 0r 4 passes when going away from the scoreboard and looking back from the Erie sideline  ,,,  but it felt good in the stands,any word on early start time ? I know the drive back to Ohio could take 8-10 hours,,is that a consideration ??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 09, 2009, 09:24:39 AM
I just checked....The game will definately be at 1:00.  When the playoffs kick off, then the time may get pushed up to 12:00.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 09, 2009, 01:56:09 PM
 If you are a SU player, coach or fan, Saturday's loss has to be unacceptable. To get beat is one thing, but to be dominated like that is embarrassing. The talk on the ODAC board was correct....how badly would HSC beat SU? I guess we now know. Man up, Save the season- BEAT FROSTBURG.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 09, 2009, 04:19:06 PM
bennhit2hard

So with the sun being a factor do you take the wind with the sun or do you change the norm and go against the wind in the 4th quarter?
Of course the wind changed late in the game from south  to the usual westerly we have grown to love at Wesley!!! ;D  Home field advantage at it's best agaisnt a new team. :D
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 09, 2009, 04:22:29 PM
 Ski

Thanks for the time update. If I were to arrive that early Dover Downs would be a two stop adventure LOL. 
  Have to make an unexpected trip to central NY Wednesday and Thursday but  plan on being in Dover Sat.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 09, 2009, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 09, 2009, 04:19:06 PM
bennhit2hard

So with the sun being a factor do you take the wind with the sun or do you change the norm and go against the wind in the 4th quarter?
Of course the wind changed late in the game from south  to the usual westerly we have grown to love at Wesley!!! ;D  Home field advantage at it's best agaisnt a new team. :D

Throw on the Shady side of the field with the wind !!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on November 09, 2009, 07:38:23 PM
For what it's worth... the NCAA mandates all playoff start times to be at noon local (unless special permission given), so any home playoff games would start then.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 10, 2009, 04:40:59 PM
beenhit2hard

I don't think in the 15 yrs. that I have been venturing to Wesley that I have ever seen the wind blow that direction, from the North. It has come from the East once or twice with rain.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 10, 2009, 06:14:17 PM
Let us see what the wind blows in this week,,I hear a good QB is coming to town,,I know a couple of the coaches,,but not much about Ohio Dominican football,,,we shall see this saturday  ,,and let us not have an ill wind  ,,,
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 10, 2009, 09:38:21 PM
Well, once again, Wesley is focused on this game.   Ohio Dominican is currently ranked #19 in the NAIA.  You know they come in with hopes of an NAIA playoff berth, so they will be keyed up.  I truly think that considering the 52-49 victory that Ohio Dominican had over Lake Erie earlier this year, and the job the Wesley defense did against Lake Erie, that if Wesley plays its game, then the Wolverines will be in good shape for a win.  The neat thing is that I know that Wesley can turn it up a notch when necessary.  

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 11, 2009, 01:44:11 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 10, 2009, 04:40:59 PM
beenhit2hard

I don't think in the 15 yrs. that I have been venturing to Wesley that I have ever seen the wind blow that direction, from the North. It has come from the East once or twice with rain.  ;D

Wind at a Wesley home game...really.....heheeheheheheheh....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 12, 2009, 12:33:22 PM
Quote from: nnasid on November 11, 2009, 01:44:11 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 10, 2009, 04:40:59 PM
beenhit2hard

I don't think in the 15 yrs. that I have been venturing to Wesley that I have ever seen the wind blow that direction, from the North. It has come from the East once or twice with rain.  ;D

Wind at a Wesley home game...really.....heheeheheheheheh....

We better hope the wind we are getting in Chincoteague today is gone from the
area by saturday,,45-50 mph right now,,should be gone by sat,,if not we may stay home!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 12, 2009, 12:40:14 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 10, 2009, 09:38:21 PM
Well, once again, Wesley is focused on this game.   Ohio Dominican is currently ranked #19 in the NAIA.  You know they come in with hopes of an NAIA playoff berth, so they will be keyed up.  I truly think that considering the 52-49 victory that Ohio Dominican had over Lake Erie earlier this year, and the job the Wesley defense did against Lake Erie, that if Wesley plays its game, then the Wolverines will be in good shape for a win.  The neat thing is that I know that Wesley can turn it up a notch when necessary.  

-Ski

no doubt Wesley wins this one big --- and gets the starters some rest in the 4th Q. 

Ohiocollegefootball.com has this picked as a game of the week, though. 

http://www.ohiocollegefootball.com/members/ocf/blog/VIEW/00000013/00001102/OCF-Games-of-the-Week---November-14.html#00001102
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 12, 2009, 06:18:15 PM
Wesley seems confident going into this game vs. ODU, which they should be, and if they play like they know how, they should win. I like it when I know Wesley has the capability to step it up vs. teams like Lake Erie and potentially ODU. Looking for the same thing as Lake Erie, with a little more potency.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 12, 2009, 11:41:00 PM
Well our guys put up a good fight for most of three quarters before running out of gas. USA 35 - Huntingdon 0 after being 14-0 late in the third. Not real pleased with mr. Jones calling the reverse in the 4th up 21-0 then a deep pass while up 28-0. Hopefully we came out relatively healthy. Just have feeling it might cost us the first round home game. We just need to forget this one, keep our heads up and get ready for the playoffs.


Go Hawks!

Hey, Pat. Unless I've actually been asleep and having a nightmare the last 5 hours, you have last weeks score for us on this weeks scoreboard. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 13, 2009, 10:15:29 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 12, 2009, 11:41:00 PM
Well our guys put up a good fight for most of three quarters before running out of gas. USA 35 - Huntingdon 0 after being 14-0 late in the third. Not real pleased with mr. Jones calling the reverse in the 4th up 21-0 then a deep pass while up 28-0. Hopefully we came out relatively healthy. Just have feeling it might cost us the first round home game. We just need to forget this one, keep our heads up and get ready for the playoffs.


Go Hawks!

Hey, Pat. Unless I've actually been asleep and having a nightmare the last 5 hours, you have last weeks score for us on this weeks scoreboard. :)


Is USA still considered club status? I couldn't tell from their website other than that they'll be moving to D-I in the future. Maybe this loss is discounted completely?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 13, 2009, 10:43:43 AM
What is the weather like in Dover,,still bad here  ???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 13, 2009, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: Conrad on November 13, 2009, 10:15:29 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 12, 2009, 11:41:00 PM
Well our guys put up a good fight for most of three quarters before running out of gas. USA 35 - Huntingdon 0 after being 14-0 late in the third. Not real pleased with mr. Jones calling the reverse in the 4th up 21-0 then a deep pass while up 28-0. Hopefully we came out relatively healthy. Just have feeling it might cost us the first round home game. We just need to forget this one, keep our heads up and get ready for the playoffs.


Go Hawks!

Hey, Pat. Unless I've actually been asleep and having a nightmare the last 5 hours, you have last weeks score for us on this weeks scoreboard. :)


Is USA still considered club status? I couldn't tell from their website other than that they'll be moving to D-I in the future. Maybe this loss is discounted completely?
Not considered club, I don't think. They are unclassified NCAA, so the game counts. I know it isn't really supposed to affect playoff status but I'm thinking they look at MissCollege at 8-2 overall and us at 8-2 overall along with that 35-0 loss in our final game and wonder if that overrides our better SOS. We just have to wait until Sunday and see what happens. We'll have our fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 13, 2009, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on November 13, 2009, 10:43:43 AM
What is the weather like in Dover,,still bad here  ???

Has stopped raining for the moment....

Still windy, I teach about five blocks from Miller Stadium.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 13, 2009, 12:51:17 PM
Quote from: Conrad on November 13, 2009, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on November 13, 2009, 10:43:43 AM
What is the weather like in Dover,,still bad here  ???

Has stopped raining for the moment....

Still windy, I teach about five blocks from Miller Stadium.

Yep....  Practice last night was really cold, windy and wet!  Definately charactor building.....  Hopefully, we will escape most of the rain on Saturday with some warmer temps......

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 13, 2009, 05:34:52 PM
Hawks 

A DI team should beat a DIII team club or no club. That's a full scholarship school, Right??? They handled everyone they played mostly prep teams.. And according to the web site the band helped  LOL
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 13, 2009, 05:37:14 PM
Conrad

We are making the trip tomorrow. Should be a good test. I hope the wind shifts by then or it could be a rough day in the home stands!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 13, 2009, 09:29:16 PM
Accuweather says rain around noon and cloudy and low 60's for the afternoon. See you there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 13, 2009, 10:24:36 PM
ok, lets stop whining about the rain.  dress warm and suck it up.  I am going to dover to see if this team has a chance to win it all.  that is all that matters.  sons golf tourn got pushed back until sunday so I will see you all in dover by 11. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 14, 2009, 09:54:09 AM
I am glad that Wesley has turf instead of grass with all the rain that fell the last 2 days.  Field condition will not be a factor today as it will in other locals that don't have turf.  It looks like the D may get tested today based on Ohio Doms scores.  The O should be able to move the ball since Lake Erie put up 40+ on Ohio and they only scored one offensive TD against Wesley.  I expect to see a good game, one that gets the team ready for the playoff run.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 14, 2009, 10:25:24 AM
I concur!  See you at the field!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 14, 2009, 04:45:59 PM
WOW!!!!  That was one hell of a game.  Wesley really pulled out the stops this time to overcome a 4th quarter 11 point deficit to win 32-28.  Man.....  

Wesley dominated early in the game, but critical penalties and a turnover right at the very worst times really set them back in the first half.  Wesley held to a 17-14 lead at halftime and I hoped that the Wolverines would get another TD on their first posession to get some separation.  This didn't happen and  OD  dominated both sides of the ball for a quarter.  Their offense drove with relative ease although they only scored 7 points in the 3rd.  Somehow, Wesley's defense started kicking in to overdrive and stopped OD's offense in the 4th.  McSweeney and Jackson really carried the load and the offensive line allowed Wesley to start driving again.  So, with only 2:09 left, McSweeney ran the ball in to go ahead by 4 points (they converted the previous 4th quarter touchdown for 2 points).  Even though OD started with a short field from a good run-back, they were stopped dead cold by the D and ended their run with an interception.


That was one of the finest Wesley games I have seen so far.  The momentum was SOLIDLY with OD going into the 4th quarter.  But Wesley faced some adversity from a very capable team and won the game.
You can't get much better than that.

I overhard one of the OD coaches talking to a reporter on his cell before the game.  He mentioned that Wesley was the best team they would face this year and that this game was a playoff game for OD.  They sure played like it!!  Ohio Dominion is a good team, and played Wesley tough, I mean TOUGH.  I can't say anything bad about NAIA teams!

This game features a TON of personal fouls, almost all of them against Wesley.  Pretty unique for the year.  The officials even stopped the game twice to talk to the captains.

Now to get my heart rate down and wait for the playoff show tommorow.  

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 14, 2009, 07:06:13 PM
Ok, I will get it out of the way now, the officials sucked today.

Now, the game was a very good one.  Ohio Dom is a good football team and would certainly be a top 15 D3 team so this was a really good win for Wesley.  Down by 11 and coming back to win was a good test for the team.  Wesley needed to play a tough game and they did.  The defense had a tough time with some of Ohio Doms plays and were not as good as they have been this year.  The team and game started out flat, there was barely any emotion at the start and when Wesley intercepted the first pass and scored the team seemed to go on auto pilot.

This is a good football team and should win the south region, are they good enough to win the whole thing, not if they play the way they did today.  My concerns are the same as they were a couple of weeks ago, the offense seems to have peaked and actually dropped off some.  Too many penalties, aggresion is one thing, stupid aggression is another.  They take too long to run plays which cost them at least one if not 2 more tries at the end zone at the end of the first half.  Receivers have to make catches, too many drops from their top receiver.  I will be looking forward to the playoffs, it should be a lot of fun.  Fix the small things and this team will be very tough.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 14, 2009, 09:00:16 PM
Ohio D did what the last few teams has done . get away with chippy stuff in the pile ups and get Wsley's players retaliating..  I talked to a few of the OD players after the game and they are going DII next year. They have a lot of weapons on O and the QB calls  his own plays. You don't see that much anymore. I too was taken aback the REFs. Nough said. Wesley runs the ball more and more because the O line is dominating the line of scrimage so the passing stats are  going to be down . But wesleydad is right too many drops.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 14, 2009, 09:58:44 PM
Certainly a good game today, the offense and the defense started rolling in the 4th Qtr, to make an awesome come-from-behind-win. Similar problems as previous games, but I think this was exactly what the doctor ordered for Wesley. I think the players should have seen by this game that they cannot make the dumb penalties and little mistakes that they got away with against mediocre teams. Hopefully this was just right for the playoffs.

Wesley played very well at both the beginning and end of the game, but they need to play like that throughout the whole game and not putting it in gear at the last minute. This team has the potential and capibility to win the whole thing, they just need to tighten things up a bit this week and get geared up for next week because thats when the real season begins.

Cant wait for Selection Sunday tomorrow!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 15, 2009, 04:59:20 PM
a quick look at the brackets and with no UMHB, wesley is the clear favorite in the south.  I like the fact that if they make the semis they will likely play Mount, time to see how the stack up against the big boys.  tough first round game with NCWC if they are anywhete near how good they were a couple of years ago.  Wesley should win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 15, 2009, 05:10:13 PM
Interesting brackets this year, no UMHB and Wesley and Mount could match up down the road. Should be a good game, looking at the teams NCWC has beaten. They are averaging 36.5 pts a game, and allowing 25.6 a game, for whatever thats worth. Now, Wesley needs to dig in for the long haul. Go Wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 15, 2009, 06:00:03 PM
waterboy, i predict that NCWC will score < 35 and give up > 25.  i doubt that their offense is as good as ohio doms was and they only scored 28 with wesley not playing as well as they have this year.  I also dont think their defense is as good as ohio doms was and despite the offensive struggles wesley scored 32.  stop the penalties and protect the ball and I think they win by 20+.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 15, 2009, 10:06:07 PM
Congrats Gulls! got it done against a game Frostburg team and brought the Regents Cup back to SU for the 6th straight year....ECAC bowl @ Lebanon Valley will be a tough one....good luck to you all, Go Gulls
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: whaley123 on November 15, 2009, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 15, 2009, 05:10:13 PM
Interesting brackets this year, no UMHB and Wesley and Mount could match up down the road. Should be a good game, looking at the teams NCWC has beaten. They are averaging 36.5 pts a game, and allowing 25.6 a game, for whatever thats worth. Now, Wesley needs to dig in for the long haul. Go Wolverines.
hope they are ready we beat cnu 35-7 with second sting in the 3rd. and 4th. quarter but you have to play the game good luck
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2009, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: whaley123 on November 15, 2009, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 15, 2009, 05:10:13 PM
Interesting brackets this year, no UMHB and Wesley and Mount could match up down the road. Should be a good game, looking at the teams NCWC has beaten. They are averaging 36.5 pts a game, and allowing 25.6 a game, for whatever thats worth. Now, Wesley needs to dig in for the long haul. Go Wolverines.
hope they are ready we beat cnu 35-7 with second sting in the 3rd. and 4th. quarter but you have to play the game good luck

Oh, I think they are ready.   :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 16, 2009, 08:24:01 PM
well, a ncwc comes on to talk smack.  well, isn't that some @@@#@$#.  it was so nice of them to call off the dogs in the second half so as to not run up the score against the poor cnu team.  well, i suggest you bring all the dogs and whatever else you have to dover this weekend.  plan on playing your first string for most of the game or until you are so far behind that you might as well get some playing time for your 3rd and 4th stringers.  what i will guarentee is that if you thought Hampden-Sydney was good when they had a field day scoring, enjoy the show this weekend.  Unless your defense has greatly improved, the 55 your gave up to them and the 43 to a mediocre Gettysburg team should have you really worried.  I saw Gettysburg and don't think they would have scored on Wesley.  I have been most critical of Wesley's offense this year, but I don't think they have any trouble moving the ball this weekend.  As I said, 20+ victory unless they turn the ball over.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2009, 08:31:26 PM
 Well the biggest lesson  learned last week is not to show up 1/2 hr before game time.  Parked three blocks away!!! I have to look over the NCWC box scores and see what they have before I comment on the game.  Looking forward to the game .... 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: whaley123 on November 16, 2009, 08:42:41 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2009, 08:24:01 PM
well, a ncwc comes on to talk smack.  well, isn't that some @@@#@$#.  it was so nice of them to call off the dogs in the second half so as to not run up the score against the poor cnu team.  well, i suggest you bring all the dogs and whatever else you have to dover this weekend.  plan on playing your first string for most of the game or until you are so far behind that you might as well get some playing time for your 3rd and 4th stringers.  what i will guarentee is that if you thought Hampden-Sydney was good when they had a field day scoring, enjoy the show this weekend.  Unless your defense has greatly improved, the 55 your gave up to them and the 43 to a mediocre Gettysburg team should have you really worried.  I saw Gettysburg and don't think they would have scored on Wesley.  I have been most critical of Wesley's offense this year, but I don't think they have any trouble moving the ball this weekend.  As I said, 20+ victory unless they turn the ball over.
you played 5 teams that only won 10 game all together  but like i said you have to play the game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2009, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: whaley123 on November 16, 2009, 08:42:41 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2009, 08:24:01 PM
well, a ncwc comes on to talk smack.  well, isn't that some @@@#@$#.  it was so nice of them to call off the dogs in the second half so as to not run up the score against the poor cnu team.  well, i suggest you bring all the dogs and whatever else you have to dover this weekend.  plan on playing your first string for most of the game or until you are so far behind that you might as well get some playing time for your 3rd and 4th stringers.  what i will guarentee is that if you thought Hampden-Sydney was good when they had a field day scoring, enjoy the show this weekend.  Unless your defense has greatly improved, the 55 your gave up to them and the 43 to a mediocre Gettysburg team should have you really worried.  I saw Gettysburg and don't think they would have scored on Wesley.  I have been most critical of Wesley's offense this year, but I don't think they have any trouble moving the ball this weekend.  As I said, 20+ victory unless they turn the ball over.
you played 5 teams that only won 10 game all together  but like i said you have to play the game



Oh YEAH!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bishop64 on November 16, 2009, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2009, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: whaley123 on November 16, 2009, 08:42:41 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2009, 08:24:01 PM
well, a ncwc comes on to talk smack.  well, isn't that some @@@#@$#.  it was so nice of them to call off the dogs in the second half so as to not run up the score against the poor cnu team.  well, i suggest you bring all the dogs and whatever else you have to dover this weekend.  plan on playing your first string for most of the game or until you are so far behind that you might as well get some playing time for your 3rd and 4th stringers.  what i will guarentee is that if you thought Hampden-Sydney was good when they had a field day scoring, enjoy the show this weekend.  Unless your defense has greatly improved, the 55 your gave up to them and the 43 to a mediocre Gettysburg team should have you really worried.  I saw Gettysburg and don't think they would have scored on Wesley.  I have been most critical of Wesley's offense this year, but I don't think they have any trouble moving the ball this weekend.  As I said, 20+ victory unless they turn the ball over.
you played 5 teams that only won 10 game all together  but like i said you have to play the game




Oh YEAH!!!!!

I don't know who whaley123 is, but he sure has not shown up on the USAC board this year to my knowledge. I find it interesting that he is showing up now! I have no way of knowing who will win the game, but I can assure you the Bishop suporters I know don't talk trash. Trash talking only gets you in trouble. As the old saying goes, It's better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and prove it. Who ever wins it, let the game decide it!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 16, 2009, 10:28:26 PM
Bishop64, welcome to the acfc site.  I was looking to see if he had posted anytime recently and I couldn't find him either.  Talking a little trash is fun as long as it stays that way, fun.  I expect this to be a good game with Wesley winning because I believe they are better.  You are right, the game will decide who is better, but what else will we have to do if we don't chirp a bit during the week.  Are you going to make the trip up for the game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2009, 11:36:45 PM
  Bishop

We have gotten used to the fly bys who come around just to stir the pot... As long as they don't get personal it's all good.


  Wesleydad

Can't wait to see the gems in Zebra clothing we get this week!!!!

  beenhit2hard

Could actually have decent weather this week! :D 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: whaley123 on November 17, 2009, 11:09:50 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2009, 11:36:45 PM
  Bishop

We have gotten used to the fly bys who come around just to stir the pot... As long as they don't get personal it's all good.


  Wesleydad

Can't wait to see the gems in Zebra clothing we get this week!!!!

  beenhit2hard

Could actually have decent weather this week! :D 
it's all in fun but i have to believe in my team just like you some people my not
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 17, 2009, 11:46:56 AM
Welcome one and all to Dover this weekend. Here is the link to the Wesley playoff central page, it has some good information for visitors. Good luck to all.

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2009-10/news/playoffcentral

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bishop64 on November 17, 2009, 11:51:45 AM
Whaley123, I have as much confidence in the Bishops as you do and I think they have an excellent chance of winning! My only question is "Where have you been all year when it appears that I have been the only poster on the USAC Board supporting the Bishops. Now that you are here, I hope you continue next year, cause it gets lonesome over there! ;D

To wesleydad, In response to your question, No I will not be making the trip. Not because I don't want to, but travelling is a little difficult at times for this old arthritis infected vet. But, I can assure you I will be there in heart and listening on the Net. Think about me when you guys are stuffing down that "tail gate food".  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 17, 2009, 06:31:48 PM
bishop64, thanks for your service, my son is in the 101st airborne out of ft. campbell, ky.  sorry to hear that you won't make it and we always think of others when we are enjoying a little tail gate grub.  we go simple with hoagies, but it is all good.

whaley123, cheer, cheer, cheer.  it is what is expected.  if we didn't think our team had a chance, why bother being on here.  your talking smack did not bother me, i have been known and accused of it myself.  all in good fun.  will you be making the trip this weekend?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on November 17, 2009, 06:56:21 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 17, 2009, 06:31:48 PM
bishop64, thanks for your service, my son is in the 101st airborne out of ft. campbell, ky.  sorry to hear that you won't make it and we always think of others when we are enjoying a little tail gate grub.  we go simple with hoagies, but it is all good.

whaley123, cheer, cheer, cheer.  it is what is expected.  if we didn't think our team had a chance, why bother being on here.  your talking smack did not bother me, i have been known and accused of it myself.  all in good fun.  will you be making the trip this weekend?

Dec. 5th looks like an open date on my schedule. Sure would like to get one more game in prior to the Stagg Bowl. Tell Wesley to hold up their end and we will meet you, PA, and beenhit2hard in Dover.  :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 17, 2009, 07:08:29 PM
sounds good to me.  if HSC does their part it will make for an interesting game with you maybe having to cheer for the hated ODAC rival, not sure i see that happening but it would be great to see you guys again before the stagg.  the tailgate has died off a little since many of the parents left with that great group of kids last year, i cant get away as i have no life with the kids grown so i will be there.  go wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: whaley123 on November 17, 2009, 08:10:37 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 17, 2009, 06:31:48 PM
bishop64, thanks for your service, my son is in the 101st airborne out of ft. campbell, ky.  sorry to hear that you won't make it and we always think of others when we are enjoying a little tail gate grub.  we go simple with hoagies, but it is all good.

whaley123, cheer, cheer, cheer.  it is what is expected.  if we didn't think our team had a chance, why bother being on here.  your talking smack did not bother me, i have been known and accused of it myself.  all in good fun.  will you be making the trip this weekend?
i will be there at every game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 17, 2009, 09:09:25 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 17, 2009, 07:08:29 PM
sounds good to me.  if HSC does their part it will make for an interesting game with you maybe having to cheer for the hated ODAC rival, not sure i see that happening but it would be great to see you guys again before the stagg.  the tailgate has died off a little since many of the parents left with that great group of kids last year, i cant get away as i have no life with the kids grown so i will be there.  go wesley.

The tailgating has seemed a bit more empty compared to earlier years. But I have only been to the CNU game this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 17, 2009, 09:15:59 PM
thewaterboy

That's because it costs 20 bucks to park there and after last years homecoming mess they have new rules.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 18, 2009, 08:17:16 AM
We are going to miss the first round of the playoffs,,have to be pop pop this weekend , but We will be at the rest,,  looking forward to a Stone Station Day !!!and yes,,The Mrs . will bring cookies
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wc-alum on November 18, 2009, 09:19:15 AM
hey guys.....thinking about coming down to watch the game his weekend..haven;t caught a game since the muhlenburg game last year so i need a fix.....what the deal with tix.i remember when i played we had to buy them at the school but can the fans buy them at the tix booth...hows the weather looking for the weekend
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 18, 2009, 11:02:45 AM
Quote from: wc-alum on November 18, 2009, 09:19:15 AM
hey guys.....thinking about coming down to watch the game his weekend..haven;t caught a game since the muhlenburg game last year so i need a fix.....what the deal with tix.i remember when i played we had to buy them at the school but can the fans buy them at the tix booth...hows the weather looking for the weekend

Weather looks great so far and tickets are 10 dollars and I'm sure there will be plenty available at the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wc-alum on November 18, 2009, 11:36:26 AM
Thanks conrad.....
   i know your not supposed to look past anyone but when i saw a possible semi-final matchup NOT in Wisconsin, i was a little excited.......too many bad memories out on the frozen tundra... see you all down there.. excited to see some familiar faces,hopefully there are still some lingering around....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 19, 2009, 10:32:55 AM
Quote from: wc-alum on November 18, 2009, 11:36:26 AM
Thanks conrad.....
   i know your not supposed to look past anyone but when i saw a possible semi-final matchup NOT in Wisconsin, i was a little excited.......too many bad memories out on the frozen tundra... see you all down there.. excited to see some familiar faces,hopefully there are still some lingering around....

The important thing is that Wesley has a one-game season.  NCWC is not a push-over team, so the focus is squarely on them and not Mount Union.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wc-alum on November 19, 2009, 05:26:42 PM
I'm def not looking past NCW just making an observation. I remember in 2007 they had a really good team on the ground and in the air. Not sure who is left from that 07 team but i'm sure they got some good ballplayers to still be playing in mid november....
Still looks good this weekend for my son's first Wesley game...hope its a great day to be a wolverine!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: whaley123 on November 20, 2009, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: wc-alum on November 19, 2009, 05:26:42 PM
I'm def not looking past NCW just making an observation. I remember in 2007 they had a really good team on the ground and in the air. Not sure who is left from that 07 team but i'm sure they got some good ballplayers to still be playing in mid november....
Still looks good this weekend for my son's first Wesley game...hope its a great day to be a wolverine!!!!
i think there are about 24 player from07
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2009, 11:59:58 AM
Once again, I'm getting pumped up!  The weather tommorow should be perfect for the game.  I got my play-off beard started, too!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: whaley123 on November 20, 2009, 02:54:57 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 20, 2009, 11:59:58 AM
Once again, I'm getting pumped up!  The weather tommorow should be perfect for the game.  I got my play-off beard started, too!

-Ski
dont get no beer suds in it
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2009, 04:02:32 PM
looks like good weather for the game.  early tailgate is just fine, not as early as the stagg bowl will be, but 900 is pretty early.  may have to stop and pick up some mcdonalds bfast sandwiches to go with the morning malt and hops beverage of choice.  nothing better than having a healthy breakfast before the game.  wesley should win if they do what is necessary and protect the ball, cut out the penalties, and continue to dominate D3 teams on defense.  I'm thinking 38 - 14 or so.  have a safe trip up all you ncwc fans and stop by and say hi, I will have an army bucket hat on and #13 jersey hanging with some young folk since all my old folk that used to tailgate have moved on since last years team graduated some good tailgating families.  see you at the game ski, conrad, and pawesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2009, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 20, 2009, 04:02:32 PM
looks like good weather for the game.  early tailgate is just fine, not as early as the stagg bowl will be, but 900 is pretty early.  may have to stop and pick up some mcdonalds bfast sandwiches to go with the morning malt and hops beverage of choice.  nothing better than having a healthy breakfast before the game.  wesley should win if they do what is necessary and protect the ball, cut out the penalties, and continue to dominate D3 teams on defense.  I'm thinking 38 - 14 or so.  have a safe trip up all you ncwc fans and stop by and say hi, I will have an army bucket hat on and #13 jersey hanging with some young folk since all my old folk that used to tailgate have moved on since last years team graduated some good tailgating families.  see you at the game ski, conrad, and pawesley.

Hey, can you get me a pair of Sausage Egg and Cheese McMuffins?  I'll pay you back when I see you tommorow...... Seriously.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2009, 07:12:19 PM
ski, your order is taken.  i do not expect a tip, but any cold brew would do, only kidding.  i will grab you 2.  i will be there by 915, so get them while they are as hot as i can have them be when i get there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2009, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 20, 2009, 07:12:19 PM
ski, your order is taken.  i do not expect a tip, but any cold brew would do, only kidding.  i will grab you 2.  i will be there by 915, so get them while they are as hot as i can have them be when i get there.

I don't mind them being a cold.  Thanks for hooking me up.  My tummy thanks you.  I'll probably be there around 10:00.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2009, 08:38:37 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 20, 2009, 04:02:32 PMmay have to stop and pick up some mcdonalds bfast sandwiches ... nothing better than having a healthy breakfast before the game. 

I love good use of sarcasm. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2009, 09:00:37 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2009, 08:38:37 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 20, 2009, 04:02:32 PMmay have to stop and pick up some mcdonalds bfast sandwiches ... nothing better than having a healthy breakfast before the game. 

I love good use of sarcasm. :)

I think the term healthy means different things to different people, hehehehe....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 20, 2009, 09:37:37 PM
 ski

You better calm your nerves or there may some blurry video..  :o

wesleydad

I can't think of anything better at 10:00am than a suasage,egg and beer beltch ;D


Looking forward to a good game tomorrow. Was great to see a calm , confident Wesley team come back last week.

 Heating up the oven for a couple of orders to fill for tomorrow!! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2009, 09:43:53 PM
now pat, what could be more healthy than a good breakfast, a beer made from the salt of the earth, hops, barley, malt, etc. along with eggs, sausage, and a muffin, priceless.  thanks for the credit of using sarcasm, been accused of that before, this time though nothing more than good old fashioned honesty, been drinking with the stone station guys at 630 in the morning last stagg so this will be childs play for a tailgate.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 20, 2009, 10:20:27 PM
I think I'm going to get a scrapple, egg and cheese on a Kaiser with mustard from the Grocery Basket. I haven't had one of those in years. See you guys tomorrow.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bishop64 on November 21, 2009, 04:20:36 PM
Congratulations to Wesley... you guys just gave my Bishops an old fashioned Wood Shed Whooping!

Good luck the rest of the way and take it all the way! :) we'll be pulling for you!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 21, 2009, 04:25:38 PM
Thanks Bishop.  The 4 turnovers in the first half by Wesley really kept  NCWC in the game.  Frustrating.   Anyways, congrads to North Carolina Wesleyan for getting into the NCAA playoffs.  The team should be proud.

-Ski

p.s.  Thanks Wesleydad for hooking my tummy up!!  :)

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2009, 07:53:05 PM
well, one of 2 things to take from todays game, either wesley is really good or ncwc is not very good.  you are not supposed to score 55 points with 4 turnovers.  wesley played well, but ncwc is not very good on defense and just mediocre on offense.  some positives from the game, it was nice to see kraut battle for passes as opposed to catching mostly fade routes.  his catch near the end of the first half was huge in putting wesley in scoring position.  the defense seemed a little off today, but stepped up when they had to in the 3rd quarter when wesley put the game away.  also, no stupid penalties taken.  actually, the officiating was pretty good with very few flags in the game.  on to next week.

is there any chance that since there are no seeds that wesley ends up playing Johns Hopkins and Mississippi College goes to Thomas More?  That would seem to eliminate flights.  If the games go the other way are there 2 flights in the south this week?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on November 21, 2009, 08:00:40 PM
I really really hope that is not right about remaking the bracket to avoid flights, however it would not surprise me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2009, 08:07:30 PM
cru and anyone else, i was just thinking that since they didnt really seed teams that it gave them the flexability to change games to save cash.  I did not check the mileage, but I know that Miss Col will have to fly to Wesley for sure, not sure about Johns Hopkins to Thomas More, but I would figure that it will be near 500 miles.  Will be interesting to see what happens.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2009, 08:08:46 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 21, 2009, 07:53:05 PM

is there any chance that since there are no seeds that wesley ends up playing Johns Hopkins and Mississippi College goes to Thomas More?  That would seem to eliminate flights.  If the games go the other way are there 2 flights in the south this week?

Wrong, Mississippi College to Thomas More is 689 miles. Plane flight. (JHU to TMC is 534 miles.)

Mississippi College's going to Huntingdon was one bus trip that they could save.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2009, 08:12:22 PM
Ralph, thanks for the info, do they go with just one flight or 2 then?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2009, 08:14:15 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 21, 2009, 08:12:22 PM
Ralph, thanks for the info, do they go with just one flight or 2 then?
Before 2009, this bracket would have had two flights in this round and a third flight for UMHB to go to Linfield.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2009, 09:25:21 PM
  Whatever was causing McSweeney to lose the grip on those first few passes got corrected and IMHO he had a real good second half.. Gotta love the 9 yrd.  Hail Mary !!!! ;D  Can there is a better pass catching TE in DIII than McAndrew ?   

If anyone would like to win at Dover Downs next week just sit next to me!!! The last two weeks I have had two people win over $10,000 sitting next to me! >:( Yes that's a comma
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on November 21, 2009, 09:41:12 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 21, 2009, 07:53:05 PM
is there any chance that since there are no seeds that wesley ends up playing Johns Hopkins and Mississippi College goes to Thomas More?  That would seem to eliminate flights.  If the games go the other way are there 2 flights in the south this week?

Pat covered this in one of his Daily Dose updates ... Round 1 winner of HSC-JHU goes to Thomas More (if DePauw had won they would have traveled). Round 1 winner of MC-HC goes to Wesley (if NCWC had won they would have traveled). So even though there are no seeds the NCAA is proceeding as if there are.
Nothing has been settled for Rounds 3 & 4, however.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 21, 2009, 10:58:49 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2009, 09:25:21 PM
  Whatever was causing McSweeney to lose the grip on those first few passes got corrected and IMHO he had a real good second half.. Gotta love the 9 yrd.  Hail Mary !!!! ;D  Can there is a better pass catching TE in DIII than McAndrew ?   


I wish that play could of made YouTube.  Absolutely hilarious!! 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2009, 11:06:31 PM
 Ski

I wonder if the video guy might be able to arrange that!!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jesse53 on November 22, 2009, 01:56:41 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 21, 2009, 07:53:05 PM
well, one of 2 things to take from todays game, either wesley is really good or ncwc is not very good.  you are not supposed to score 55 points with 4 turnovers.  wesley played well, but ncwc is not very good on defense and just mediocre on offense.  some positives from the game, it was nice to see kraut battle for passes as opposed to catching mostly fade routes.  his catch near the end of the first half was huge in putting wesley in scoring position.  the defense seemed a little off today, but stepped up when they had to in the 3rd quarter when wesley put the game away.  also, no stupid penalties taken.  actually, the officiating was pretty good with very few flags in the game.  on to next week.

is there any chance that since there are no seeds that wesley ends up playing Johns Hopkins and Mississippi College goes to Thomas More?  That would seem to eliminate flights.  If the games go the other way are there 2 flights in the south this week?

FIRST CONGRADS TO WESLEY!!!!! GREAT GAME BOYS!!! BEAT MOUNT UNION!!!!AND THANKS FOR ALL THE RESPECT YALL SHOWED TO US!

Dear Wesleydad,

Im what you call those fly bys that look at every comment on D3 Boards but never post...but this time I think its time to post.

I remember a post earlier this week on what you would be wearing at the game, so I really wanted to see what you look like, because in the posts I have seen you write you seem to be very ARROGANT AND COCKY, but maybe thats just me.  ???

In todays game we played awsome in the first half, with the exception of leaving 14 points on the feild in the because we couldnt capitalize on turnovers. I was very pleased going in at halftime. Being that our lockeroom was right beside Wesleys I could hear almost everything their coach was saying, and let me tell you he was ripping them a new one, but hey the speech must of worked because they came out of halftime with 21 unanswered points in the 3rd.

As we entered the feild as we were stretching I managed to catch a glimpse of you... OHHH!...what a pretty sight, you looked almost like BOY in shock, like you have never seen such before! I LOVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good ole wesleydad I bet your faced changed in the second half where wesley made big plays and seemed to be unstoppable. TO WIN A GAME YOU HAVE TO PLAY 4 QUARTERS AND TODAY WE ONLY PLAYED 2 OR 1.8. THEY ARE A GREAT TEAM AND I HOPE THEY CAN GO DEEP IN THE PLAYOFFS!

BUT THERE IS NO REASON TO COME UP HERE AND POST COMMENTS SUCH AS US HAVING A BAD DEFENSE OR HAVING A MEDIOCRE OFFENSE!!!!

I-G-N-O-R-A-M-U-S







I actually saw you when we came out for halftime
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bishop64 on November 22, 2009, 06:46:52 AM
 Quote from Wesleydad....well, one of 2 things to take from todays game, either wesley is really good or ncwc is not very good.  you are not supposed to score 55 points with 4 turnovers.  wesley played well, but ncwc is not very good on defense and just mediocre on offense

I usually try to avoid mediocre, insulting, childish comments on any of these boards. There is no doubt that your team (Wesleydad) was the better team yesterday. However, I must say that your comment falls into the category of all of the above. You do not determine how good or how bad a team is on one performance! Secondly, I recall a game played in 2007 when Wesley faced an NCWC team that was only 4 years old at the time and was very happy to leave with a win. You faced a team yesterday that is only 6 years old and quite frankly they gave you a fit for one half! I wish Wesley well in the playoffs and sincerely hope you go all the way. However your remarks are insulting, but  most of all disrespectful to the kids that play the game. You do not have an attitude problem; you are an attitude problem!

To the rests of the Wesley Fans, thanks for allowing me to visit your board, and good luck the rest of the way.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on November 22, 2009, 08:49:30 AM
FWIW, just checked the tape Wesley supplied me to do the highlight package I'll produce once I get to a computer that has the editing program on it.  Hopefully will have it available tonight.  The play is shot okay, so it will be in there.  What a strange, strange play (and quite the box out by the basketball playing McAndrew)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2009, 09:05:24 AM
well jesse53 and Bishop64, if you dont like the terms I use to describe what I saw yesterday then so be it.  My comments are based on the game that was played.  I did not mention any specific player so I did not insult anyone.  If you want to say that ncwc played a bad half on defense fine.  I was not surprized that wesley scored that much based on the results of earlier games that ncwc played against hampden-sydney and gettysburg. as far as the term mediocre to descirbe the offense, what term would you prefer, average, ok, middle of the road, etc. pick one, I dont go politically correct.

jesse53, you did not have to see what I looked like, you were welcome to say hi as I told you what I would have on so I could meet some of you.  As far as arrogant and cocky, been accused of that before since I tend to speak specifically and dont do political correctness.  Interesting that I have met many posters on here at games the last 5+ years and dont seem to have problems with any of them.

Wesley was happy to come away with the win 2 years ago as I am sure they were yesterday.  I was not in shock at halftime, wesely has trailed and lost before, i was at UWWW 2 years ago and UMHB last year.  You are welcome to call me any name you want as I dont get easily offended, but at least have proof to back it up, IGNORAMUS would imply that I dont know anything.  I posted earlier this week that wesley would win by 20+, my falut I was off by 10.  Good luck next seaons and if we play again stop by and say hi, I am not as bad as you think.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2009, 09:20:49 AM
pawesleyfan, were you at the game yesterday?

ski, no problem with the food.  I will let you know what time we will be arriving next week since it is Thanksgiving weekend and Jason will be home.  Should still be around 10.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bishop64 on November 22, 2009, 09:30:09 AM
Wesleydad, don't give me that "political Correctnes crap"! It has to do with courtesy and decency for the young man on the other side of the ball that put the pads on the same way your team does. No one has said Wesley is not the better club! Don't you think the young men who lost know that today? Your comments could have been made without the insults! But, as you say, that is the way you are. You call things the way you see them! You are what you are! You said that, not me!

In closing, let me say HOORAH to the young men who put on the Wesley uniform. Good luck the rest of the way and I sincerely hope you you go all the way!!!


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2009, 09:55:16 AM
bishop64, which term are you offended by? mediocre or not very good.  If those are the things that bother you then I will pass on a quote from a long time poster on this website, "I find easily offened people rather offensive."  Obviously you like to make everything sound good even if the evidence is to the contrary.

"I usually try to avoid mediocre, insulting, childish comments on any of these boards" is what you also said in reply to my coments.  I am not offended because it is starting to sound like you dont like the fact that ncwc got beat and you are venting.  fine.

Us wesley folk have had to read comments much worse than mediocre or not very good the last couple of years when wesley got trounced by UWWW twice and UMHB last year.  If a team does not play to its potential and gets beaten badly and that is all the opponents fans have to go by then that is the way it is.  You believe that ncwc is a very good team, fine, it didn't show yesterday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 22, 2009, 10:10:34 AM
Bishop64.

I commend you on being the better person.

Wesleydud,  I agree with him.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bishop64 on November 22, 2009, 10:39:20 AM
Wesleydad, I could respond to your latest insult, but quite frankly you ain't worth it!  After 70 years and two wars, I have seen much worse than you! So, you just think anything you want! I'm getting too old to deal with your attitude!!!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CruAlum58 on November 22, 2009, 12:22:06 PM
I imagine the MC-Wesley game could be interesting. MC is good, but besides UMHB they havent seen the athleticism Wesley brings. The safeties present problems in both the run and passing game. I hope MC wins, but I know it took UMHB 2 times to get by Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2009, 12:43:55 PM
Quote from: CruAlum58 on November 22, 2009, 12:22:06 PM
I imagine the MC-Wesley game could be interesting. MC is good, but besides UMHB they havent seen the athleticism Wesley brings. The safeties present problems in both the run and passing game. I hope MC wins, but I know it took UMHB 2 times to get by Wesley.

Now that is a constructive posting.  Thanks!  +1!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2009, 12:47:18 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on November 22, 2009, 08:49:30 AM
FWIW, just checked the tape Wesley supplied me to do the highlight package I'll produce once I get to a computer that has the editing program on it.  Hopefully will have it available tonight.  The play is shot okay, so it will be in there.  What a strange, strange play (and quite the box out by the basketball playing McAndrew)

Outstanding!  Is it shot from the sidelines?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 22, 2009, 01:22:31 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on November 22, 2009, 08:49:30 AM
FWIW, just checked the tape Wesley supplied me to do the highlight package I'll produce once I get to a computer that has the editing program on it.  Hopefully will have it available tonight.  The play is shot okay, so it will be in there.  What a strange, strange play (and quite the box out by the basketball playing McAndrew)

wdelsean

   Thanks Sean..  I am looking forward to seeing it again..

wesleydad

    We got there late and we left right after the game . Have to stay out of the dog house so I can make the games every week!!! ;D


  Bishop64

     IMHO Wesley is just playing at a different level than they have in the past. They have a lot of confidence in themselves and they don't seem to get rattled. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 22, 2009, 01:28:40 PM
So MC won't be surprised by Wesleys athleticism because they've played UMHB? That's what I'm reading.  Seems that TMC and Wesley could meet in Dover in 13 days..

Personal note: I've met Wesleydad and he's a great guy with real love for d3 football.  His team wasn't even playing last year, yet he made the drive to Alliance.  Maybe some don't like the delivery of what he said, but you can't argue the substance, given the result yesterday.  As I said, he's a fine American and I think the impression he's left on you has been tainted by a hard fought loss by the team. 

Nice season for North Carolina Wesleyan and yes, its a very big deal to be in the playoffs twice in 6 years of existence.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jesse53 on November 22, 2009, 01:49:50 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on November 22, 2009, 10:39:20 AM
Wesleydad, I could respond to your latest insult, but quite frankly you ain't worth it!  After 70 years and two wars, I have seen much worse than you! So, you just think anything you want! I'm getting too old to deal with your attitude!!!



Well Bishop64 Im not too old to deal with his attitude, Im only a soph in college.

Wesleydad, you seem to be just how I thought you were ARROGANT AND COCKY! Man am I good????!!! What do you think wesleydad IM PRETTY SMART MYSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2009, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 22, 2009, 01:28:40 PM
So MC won't be surprised by Wesleys athleticism because they've played UMHB? ...


In the regular season, Mississippi College also played a very athletic NAIA scholarship Cumberlands KY (9-1) and participant in the 16-team NAIA playoffs.

http://naia.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/111509aae.html

Cumberlands (KY) lost to Lambuth TN 38-7.  Massey rated Lambuth #3, Cumberlands #7

The Mississippi College coaching staff will emphasize the talent and athleticism of Wesley.  The Choctaws may not be surprised by the athleticism.  The challenge will be to meet that level.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2009, 02:15:38 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2009, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 22, 2009, 01:28:40 PM
So MC won't be surprised by Wesleys athleticism because they've played UMHB? ...


In the regular season, Mississippi College also played a very athletic NAIA scholarship Cumberlands KY (9-1) and participant in the 16-team NAIA playoffs.

http://naia.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/111509aae.html

Cumberlands (KY) lost to Lambuth TN 38-7.  Massey rated Lambuth #3, Cumberlands #7

The Mississippi College coaching staff will emphasize the talent and athleticism of Wesley.  The Choctaws may not be surprised by the athleticism.  The challenge will be to meet that level.



Any team that beats UMHB will be a tough challenge for Wesley.   The Wolverines can't afford the mistakes they made this week against MC next week, that's for sure!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 22, 2009, 02:24:41 PM
Ralph,

Thanks for the info.. I didn't think Mississippi College would be intimidated because they are playing Wesley, and playing against that NAIA team will give them further comfort. 

In 2nd round of the playoffs, there aren't any gimme games outside of Mount Union and Whitewater. 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 22, 2009, 03:43:59 PM
Could we see an appearance from the Stone Staion this week? Wonder if LLama and oilcan will be trekking East?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2009, 06:43:15 PM
pawesley, sorry i missed you, you need to pick the seat next to the one you decide to sit in so you can win the big$$$$$$$$.  see you this weekend.

saintsfan, appreciate the defense of my delivery.  some get offended easier than others do.  enjoyed the trip last year and will hopefully make it again with the team this year.  may have to beat your team to do it.  nice win yesterday and good luck this weekend against what seems to be a good johns hopkins team.

Ralph, thanks for the additional info.  sounds like a pretty good team, which I would expect since they beat umhb this year and come out of a tough conference.

Ski, i agree, the wolverines will have to protect the ball better this week, they can't expect to score as many points as the games get deeper in the playoffs.

jesse53, my only question to you would be why were you paying attention to fans at the game instead of the game since you were playing in it?  not sure how smart that is.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 22, 2009, 06:55:02 PM
Wesley taking on MC this weekend should be a good game. I think if Wesley plays like they know how and dont TURN THE BALL OVER 4 TIMES >:(, then they should be in good shape. Dont know much about MC except they knocked off UMHB, but suffered defeats to Cumberland and Howard Payne. I dont think Wesley will take this team lightly at all. Hopefully the Wolverines keep rolling so I can get to one more game this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2009, 08:36:06 PM
I just viewed the Mississippi College site and they had highlights of the game this weekend against Huntington.  They look similar to Wesley on offense and seemed to overwelm Huntington on defense.  Looking at the schedule, they seem to give up points and turned it over 7 times against Howard Payne.  Seems that wesley will have to protect the ball and contain the big plays.  If wesley can score in the 30's which it would seem is possible from prior game results from both wesley and mississippi they should be in good shape since they have not given up 30 all season.  Looks like Miss. Coll likes the trick play, check out the play similar to the Boise St. TD against Okla. a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2009, 03:03:22 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 22, 2009, 12:47:18 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on November 22, 2009, 08:49:30 AM
FWIW, just checked the tape Wesley supplied me to do the highlight package I'll produce once I get to a computer that has the editing program on it.  Hopefully will have it available tonight.  The play is shot okay, so it will be in there.  What a strange, strange play (and quite the box out by the basketball playing McAndrew)

Outstanding!  Is it shot from the sidelines?

-Ski

The hightlights were posted on Wesley's site.  The last play of the highlight reel shows the play, but you can't get a real good idea just what happened.  You do hear the laughing afterwards, though.   :D

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/index

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on November 24, 2009, 07:45:25 PM
That's the gamble of picking an angle.  Whoever shot the video would have had it perfect if they were on the sidelines, but by the same respect, that same spot was awesome for the Gene Knight TD where McSweeny looks off the safety.  Overall I've had plenty to work with when putting the packages together.  (This is the first time in 3 years I'm not shooting them myself since I'm up in the booth and not on the sidelines now)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2009, 08:42:30 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on November 24, 2009, 07:45:25 PM
That's the gamble of picking an angle.  Whoever shot the video would have had it perfect if they were on the sidelines, but by the same respect, that same spot was awesome for the Gene Knight TD where McSweeny looks off the safety.  Overall I've had plenty to work with when putting the packages together.  (This is the first time in 3 years I'm not shooting them myself since I'm up in the booth and not on the sidelines now)

Well, at least it's something.  I know you haven't been able to shoot as of late.  It does show.... ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 25, 2009, 08:17:43 AM
Any pre game activities this weekend,,,tailgating ???,,weather is looking better for game day !!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 26, 2009, 07:59:23 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to all the Wesley fans out there.  Enjoy the day and remember to give thanks to all the service men and women out there doing their job so we can enjoy all that is great about this country, including D3football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2009, 11:11:58 AM
Happy Thanksgiving ..

Have a Great day
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 26, 2009, 06:49:44 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to all of the posters here. Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on November 26, 2009, 06:52:43 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 17, 2009, 09:15:59 PM
thewaterboy

That's because it costs 20 bucks to park there and after last years homecoming mess they have new rules.

Happy Tday gentleman!

I saw the new rules and you weren't lying. You can't even heckle the field hockey girls in season anymore from the tailgate, thats just unamerican, LOL! Where were the days when I couldn't count the number of kegs at the tailgate on 2 hands and a tailgating spot in that field was priceless.

I guess all good things come to an end. Too bad the games can't be played late in the evening when everything is hidden by the darkness of night or the glaze of beer goggles. Yes it is a proven fact that every woman looks better at 2 a.m!  :o

Good luck this weekend Wolverine faithful.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 26, 2009, 07:50:07 PM
Hope to meet some Wesley and Mississippi College fans Saturday, as I will be doing the play-by-play with Keith McMillan on color commentary for the Second Round game at Wesley this Saturday at Noon EST for D3football.com.  Should be an exciting game!

- Frank
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 26, 2009, 08:13:18 PM
Frank, hope to meet you.  Me and the boy should be there around 930 partaking in some of the all american eggs and beer breakfast.  Stop by the tailgate area, I will have some form of Wesley 13 on, likely the sweatshirt since it is supposed to be a little chilly in the morning with the wind blowing.

Llama, nice to here from you.  Yes they have sort of killed the tailgate since the students dont come out much anymore.  We will be there next week if they win this week, so if you plan on coming up see you there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 26, 2009, 09:57:41 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 26, 2009, 07:50:07 PM
Hope to meet some Wesley and Mississippi College fans Saturday, as I will be doing the play-by-play with Keith McMillan on color commentary for the Second Round game at Wesley this Saturday at Noon EST for D3football.com.  Should be an exciting game!

- Frank

Great, looking forward to meeting you!!  Should be another good day for football.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 26, 2009, 10:08:22 PM
Good luck Wesley on Saturday
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 27, 2009, 08:13:58 AM
This looks to be an interesting game.  Miss Coll has a good offense, but has given up points on defense.  Wesley looks strong on both sides of the ball.  So it would seem to come down to - Can Miss Coll stop Wesley from scoring enough to stay in the game.  They were able to shut down UMHB and held them to 14, but that seems to have come from familiarity when I talked to some UMHB people.  So, can they stop Wesley?  Keith and Pat mentioned that Miss Coll struggles against the pass which would not bode well for them saturday.  Wesley has not given up more than 28 all year and if they dont have turnovers like last week I dont think they will give up more than that Saturday.  Wesley should score in the 30's minimal if Miss Coll cant contain the pass, so I think Wesley wins by at least 2 Td's, say 38 - 21.  I expect this to be a fun game to watch and will be glad to see a new team in Dover.  Safe travels to any Miss Coll fans making the trip, dress warm, 40's and windy, so the wind chill will be in the 30's early in the morning.

Ski, let me know if you want any breakfast, I plan on arriving around 930 or so.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 27, 2009, 10:53:23 AM
 I watched the UMHB/Miss. Co. game and have these obsevations. UMHB was very one dimentional that game.  They were without most of their running backs and the option was mostly the the QB running outside. They has a little success when they threw the ball but with the starter that day but didn't stay with it and when they changed QB's late they were in catch-up mode.  Miss Co. got over the top of UMHB front seven on a catch and run and the QB had a nice run and got into the secondary and scored.

Welsey likes to run it up the gut and if they have any success with that the receivers are going to be open . Miss. Co won't be able to double all four and Mc Andrew has been beating double coverage.

It will come down to Wesley's D and I don't remember any teams mounting multiple drives on them all year. And they get stronger as the game goes on. The one thing they will have to do is make the one on one tackles and they have been very good at that most of the year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 27, 2009, 11:00:49 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 27, 2009, 08:13:58 AM
Ski, let me know if you want any breakfast, I plan on arriving around 930 or so.

I'll take you up on that, sir.  Thanks!  Two as usual  :D   I mentioned it to others that up to the semi's, Wesley doesn't get beat by other teams, but rather Wesley gets beat by Wesley.  It's been like that for the last couple years.   If Wesley just plays a clean game, they can really roll.  The game with MC is no exception.   I don't know the stats for points scored as a result of turnovers and penalties this season, but I can tell you that a huge portion of those points put up on the board by Wesley opponents were direct consequences of mistakes on Wesley's part.  Some examples:  Del Val's field goal return late in the 4th quarter earlier in the season and NCWC's first touchdown from a fumble on their 30, giving them a very short field.

If Wesley plays smart,  they are absolutely wonderful.  If not, it makes for a close game especially for good teams who capitalize on mistakes.  MC is a good team with a good QB and a quick RB.   If Wesley does what it does well, then they should be able to deal with both.  

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 27, 2009, 08:47:22 PM
Got out the cold gear for tomorrow,, most of it is purple,,but I did find a blue coat to cover it up !! ;D,,bringing turkey sandwiches for lunch ,, I like leftovers,,looking forward to a good game,,should be interesting throwing with the predicted wind,,and it looks like Miss likes to throw and has a good QB,
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 27, 2009, 11:29:52 PM
Looks like the wind may play a factor in tomorrows game. Looking forward to it. Go Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 28, 2009, 12:09:06 AM
 GAME DAY!!!!GAME Day!!!GAME DAY!!!GAME DAY!!!GAME DAY!!!GAME DAY!!!GAME DAY!!! GAME DAY!!!GAME DAY!!!GAME DAY!!!GAME DAY!!!
Now I can go to bed..... ;D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 28, 2009, 01:18:07 AM
Today's Second Round NCAA Division III Football Championship Playoff game between Mississippi College and Wesley will be carried by D3football.com through Ustream.tv starting at 11:50am EST (10:50am CST). 

This is D3football.com's first audio broadcast using Ustream, and it provides many exciting opportunities.  First, listeners can interact through the chatroom provided next to the scoreboard screen we will update throughout the game with our game's score and quarter.  Keith McMillan and I will attempt to monitor the chatroom for any questions or comments.

In addition, since the game is a "Featured Broadcast" on Ustream, you can listen to the game and interact through your iPhone by downloading the FREE Ustream viewer in the iPhone App Store.  Search "Ustream" for the App -- installation is easy.  Then search "Wesley" or "D3sports" for the broadcast once we go live.

Enjoy the game, and best of luck to all the players, their families and their fans!

- Frank
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 28, 2009, 07:46:34 AM
Chilly and brisk morning here in the east.  Dover forecast calls for a 20 mph wind for most of the game, so Mississippi College will have to deal with both the cold and wind in addition to Wesley.  After watching games for 5 years in Dover, the wind definitely effects the away team.  If you are not making the game, enjoy the d3 cast.  Getting ready to head on out for what I expect to be a good football game.  The beer is chillin in the trunk so it will be good and cold for the beer and eggs breakfast.  Hope to meet Frank today at the game, if not hope you enjoy your trip to Dover.

Ski, I will be there about 930, see you at the field so you can get your egg mcmuffins while they are still warm, was going to say hot but the air will take that out of the equation quickly.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 28, 2009, 08:01:14 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 28, 2009, 07:46:34 AM


Ski, I will be there about 930, see you at the field so you can get your egg mcmuffins while they are still warm, was going to say hot but the air will take that out of the equation quickly.


I'll see you then.  I'm gonna wrap up warm today!! You think it's cold in the bleechers, it is doubly so on the camera platform!!  The wind howls through the bones...... :-X

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 28, 2009, 04:34:34 PM
Well, that was a very clean game by Wesley today.  Wesley was relentless, leading the game 34-3 at the half onto a 43-9 win.  Well done!  You can't do much better than that! 

It was great talking with K-Mack and Frank Rossi as well.  Now onto John Hopkins at home.  It could very well be the largest crowd ever for a Wesley home game.  Should be quite interesting!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 28, 2009, 04:41:37 PM
Nice win for Wesley, nothing really to much to say except that they played well and its time for Johns Hopkins.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 28, 2009, 04:50:37 PM
After watching todays game there is only one conclusion, Wesley is a very good football team.  They dominated both sides of the ball today, limiting Miss Coll to only one drive when the game was still in doubt, holding them to a field goal.  Wesley scored the first 7 times they had the ball.  I am not really sure what Miss Coll saw on film to play the defense they did today, but it did not work.  Single coverage all over the field left receivers open all day.  The D line did a great job getting pressure and controlling the run allowing the LB's and DB's to take away the passing game.  This was the best game that Wesley has played all year.  Next weeks game could be a good one, with Johns Hopkins bringing a strong D into Dover to try and stop the Wesley offense.  Excellent game today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bishop64 on November 29, 2009, 11:50:54 AM
Congratulations to Wesley!!! Keep it going guys!!! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Olinemom on November 30, 2009, 07:47:32 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 28, 2009, 04:50:37 PM
After watching todays game there is only one conclusion, Wesley is a very good football team.  They dominated both sides of the ball today, limiting Miss Coll to only one drive when the game was still in doubt, holding them to a field goal.  Wesley scored the first 7 times they had the ball.  I am not really sure what Miss Coll saw on film to play the defense they did today, but it did not work.  Single coverage all over the field left receivers open all day.  The D line did a great job getting pressure and controlling the run allowing the LB's and DB's to take away the passing game.  This was the best game that Wesley has played all year.  Next weeks game could be a good one, with Johns Hopkins bringing a strong D into Dover to try and stop the Wesley offense.  Excellent game today.
Hey, Wesleydad, wow the team is doing great during the tournament this fall.  Maybe we'll be able to do some cheering for people closer to home down at the Stagg?  Looking forward to seeing you'all down there!!  Hope Thanksgiving was happy at your house.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 30, 2009, 09:08:04 PM
olinemom, thanks for the words.  team playing real well right now.  tough d in johns hopkins this week, take care of business and then maybe off to the mount for the semis.  already have the hotel reserved for the stagg, need to get my tickets.  yes it would be nice to cheer for someone a little closer and not wearing purple.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 30, 2009, 10:15:32 PM
 Would be nice if Wesley dropped the $20. partking fee this week back to $5 to open up the parking area?? There won't be much room within blocks to park !! I know why it was raised but under the circumstances with maybe the biggest crowd ever expected maybe they could change thee policy for the day ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: GoHop on December 01, 2009, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 30, 2009, 10:15:32 PM
Would be nice if Wesley dropped the $20. partking fee this week back to $5 to open up the parking area?? There won't be much room within blocks to park !! I know why it was raised but under the circumstances with maybe the biggest crowd ever expected maybe they could change thee policy for the day ;D

Is it true that you can't go back to your car after the game starts or during half time?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 01, 2009, 01:36:29 PM
Quote from: GoHop on December 01, 2009, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 30, 2009, 10:15:32 PM
Would be nice if Wesley dropped the $20. partking fee this week back to $5 to open up the parking area?? There won't be much room within blocks to park !! I know why it was raised but under the circumstances with maybe the biggest crowd ever expected maybe they could change thee policy for the day ;D

Is it true that you can't go back to your car after the game starts or during half time?

I know its not the topic here... but how did you like the TMC Tailgate, GoHop?  You guys were the 1st team we saw actually cater in food.  Almost as impressive as what JHU did to Thomas More on the field. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2009, 07:06:51 PM
I found out that Wesley ordered some additional rental stands for the Johns Hopkins game, about 650 or so additional seats.  It is going to be a crowded game, so get there early!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2009, 07:13:38 PM
gohop, i believe that is an ncaa rule, or at least that is how it has been presented at wesley.  i do know that when we made the trip to whitewater that we went to the car at halftime and re-entered the stadium so i am not sure.  it is a shame if it is not since most of us know how to act and have enjoyed some real good times tailgating at wesley.  unfortunately the students didnt hold up their end of the bargain and find a trashcan for empties thus the increased cost for parking in the field.  so if you do come and arrive early send a car or 2 into the lot and the rest of you park on the street near the field, a short 50 yard walk if you get there early enough.  my son and friends drive in and i park on the street, i dont like not being able to leave but that is how they have enforced it to this point and i dont think they will change it, shame because this is going to be fun.

ski, glad to hear that someone is thinking ahead this time as opposed to with their behind when it comes to this stuff.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2009, 07:36:59 PM
Ski

Are they going to be covered and heated  ;D The weatherman is saying maybe a nor'easter Saturday and it could include @#$$%  :D I can't even type SNOW yet!! Temps in the low 40's.  Of course there was a but at the end of the weather and it could miss us all together!!! Either Way I guess we get that not so nice easterly flow!!! Which puts the wind from the visiting side.

wsleydad

heard anything from the Stone Station??   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2009, 09:06:22 PM
pawesley, no, i have not heard from them as of yet.  i sent bo a message this afternoon so i hope to hear from them soon.  not really worried about the supposed noreater since they are already hedging on anything as usual.  the wind will be the usual and i agree with you on the $5 for tailgating, visitor friendly should be the motto.  I have a good idea about what is going to happen saturday but will wait until later in the week to post it.  need to check out one or 2 things, but have a real good feeling about the game.  trying to avoid being cocky and arrogant!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 02, 2009, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2009, 07:36:59 PM
Ski

Are they going to be covered and heated  ;D The weatherman is saying maybe a nor'easter Saturday and it could include @#$$%  :D I can't even type SNOW yet!! Temps in the low 40's.  Of course there was a but at the end of the weather and it could miss us all together!!! Either Way I guess we get that not so nice easterly flow!!! Which puts the wind from the visiting side.

wsleydad

heard anything from the Stone Station??   

Nor-easters....shivers.....We dont need no stinking nor-easters again
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2009, 01:26:45 PM
Quote from: nnasid on December 02, 2009, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2009, 07:36:59 PM
Ski

Are they going to be covered and heated  ;D The weatherman is saying maybe a nor'easter Saturday and it could include @#$$%  :D I can't even type SNOW yet!! Temps in the low 40's.  Of course there was a but at the end of the weather and it could miss us all together!!! Either Way I guess we get that not so nice easterly flow!!! Which puts the wind from the visiting side.

wsleydad

heard anything from the Stone Station??  

Nor-easters....shivers.....We dont need no stinking nor-easters again

It seems that we always get nor'easters here in Delaware.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 02, 2009, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2009, 01:26:45 PM
Quote from: nnasid on December 02, 2009, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2009, 07:36:59 PM
Ski

Are they going to be covered and heated  ;D The weatherman is saying maybe a nor'easter Saturday and it could include @#$$%  :D I can't even type SNOW yet!! Temps in the low 40's.  Of course there was a but at the end of the weather and it could miss us all together!!! Either Way I guess we get that not so nice easterly flow!!! Which puts the wind from the visiting side.

wsleydad

heard anything from the Stone Station??  

Nor-easters....shivers.....We dont need no stinking nor-easters again

It seems that we always get nor'easters here in Delaware.

-Ski

Just remembering Nor-ida three weeks ago.  shivers more shivers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2009, 10:23:50 AM
Remember to wrap up this weekend.  It's gonna be cold and possibly wet!!!  You have ben forewarned!!   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2009, 06:47:11 PM
Ok, the weather people tell me that it is going to be cold, maybe - likely wet, and of course windy.  What does that mean?  I show up with breakfast sandwiches and beer, many layers of clothing and possibly even some cover to stay dry before the game.  The kids show up at some point because they cant hang anymore and have to get rest.  Ski stops by and we chat about the game and what may happen.  Pawesleyfan, may - will stop by and say hi depending on how early he arrives which I am sure will be determined by the weather.  Time to go in and watch the game, which I believe will be over by half time unless Wesley makes too many mistakes.  Early common opponent says this game is not close.  If I was Johns Hopkins I would be more concerned about the fact that they only scored 14 on Ursinus which I dont believe has a defense close to the one Wesley has.  The offense will score as they have all year and Wesley wins in similar fashion to the Miss Coll game.  I will be making the trip to Alliance next weekend to see how Wesley stacks up to the Machine, who else will be going?

Ski, 2 sandwiches as usual, or would you prefer the breakfast burrito?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 03, 2009, 07:20:23 PM
Wesleydad,

I thought the same thing going into last week.  Mind you, Wesley is better than TMC is, but there is something about this Hopkins team.  Combined with the weather, I think they keep it within 10 points.  The wind could take them out of their gameplan but I think you'll come away impressed, like I was, with the Hopkins team.  Does that win the game?  Probably not.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2009, 08:16:51 PM
Saintsfan, i am not sure that if the wind takes them out of their gameplan there will be any chance they stay within 10.  I believe that the wesley defense will do enough to take them out of it on their own, wind or no wind.  I believe that both ncwc and miss coll had better offenses then johns hopkins does and they were shut down, ncwc totally in the second half and miss coll the entire game.  i appreciate what johns hopkins has done to this point and they are to be commended for their efforts.  a friend of mine who saw the game with hampden sydney, which johns hopkins won, thinks that wesley will win the game easily.  I appreciate your input since you did see them play live last week.  if things work out the way i think they will, will you be making the trip to alliance?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 03, 2009, 08:20:08 PM
I agree with wesleydad. If youre Wesley, all you need to do is keep rolling. As for Mount, if both teams match up ill definitely be there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 03, 2009, 08:38:54 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 03, 2009, 06:47:11 PM
Ok, the weather people tell me that it is going to be cold, maybe - likely wet, and of course windy.  What does that mean?  I show up with breakfast sandwiches and beer, many layers of clothing and possibly even some cover to stay dry before the game.  The kids show up at some point because they cant hang anymore and have to get rest.  Ski stops by and we chat about the game and what may happen.  Pawesleyfan, may - will stop by and say hi depending on how early he arrives which I am sure will be determined by the weather.  Time to go in and watch the game, which I believe will be over by half time unless Wesley makes too many mistakes.  Early common opponent says this game is not close.  If I was Johns Hopkins I would be more concerned about the fact that they only scored 14 on Ursinus which I dont believe has a defense close to the one Wesley has.  The offense will score as they have all year and Wethissley wins in similar fashion to the Miss Coll game.  I will be making the trip to Alliance next weekend to see how Wesley stacks up to the Machine, who else will be going?

Ski, 2 sandwiches as usual, or would you prefer the breakfast burrito?

Well if things go as planned, you & beenhit2hard will be battling it out for a trip to Salem next weekend. I know one of you will be there regardless. I'll have to take a raincheck (literally) this weekend but I will be listening. Brunch is on me and all my Stone Station faithful when you get to the Stagg Bowl. Wesleydad, Pat C., K Mack I'm sure will agree, it will be the best $12.50 you will ever spend to see football the way it should be played! Now I'm off to watch "The Civil War", ducks and beavers can both swim but only one can fly. Should be a Dam good game. See you in Salem, Virginia that is for all you Linfield fans. :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2009, 08:59:36 PM
 Llama

   Man I thought we would see you this week for sure!  Beenhit2hard has ben a regular at Wesley games this year.

SaintsFan

The wind no matter how bad it is does not take Wesley away from it's passing game. But it does give opposing teams fits. We have seen teams with great running games come into Wesley and go home shaking their heads. We have also seen QB's come undone from the pressure Wesley's front four comes with. Johns Hopkins is coming in with two big wins and I am sure they will be fired up but there is just something different with this Wesley squad. They don't get riled. I think Wesley wins but it may be close if the running games are the dominate force  because of weather.

Wesleydad

I may be flying solo this week. Someone isn't feeling too good. But if he is up to the trip I am sure he will be down too. I agree that Wesley will have to take care of the ball but that hasn't really been a problem this year.

  waterboy

  are you making the trip? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 03, 2009, 09:03:12 PM
Not this week. But if Wesley advances, Ill be there the rest of the way.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2009, 09:22:06 PM
llama, sorry to hear that you are not making the trip, but i understand totally.  You know that Jason and I will be there for the brunch, communion, and all the other great things that go on at the Stagg.  Do I have those 2 tickets you mentioned?  We will be arriving Friday afternoon so you guys will have to let me know where the hang out will be.

Pawesley, hope dad is feeling well enough to come, always glad to see him at the games.  If he cant make it with the weather, that is understandable.

Waterboy, if there is a game next weekend, i will be there, joining some of my mount friends for a mexican breakfast with frozen margaritas before the game, i am sure that you would also be welcome.  the guys are great hosts and the food aint bad either.  I will surely hang around after the game for some tailgating too. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2009, 11:12:59 PM
Well, the temporary stands were installed today.  Two endzone.  I'm not sure if it's true, but the figure of 3000 JH fans may be in attendance for the game.  Now, the weather might cause a drop in attendance though.  This one might beat out the 2005 Bridgewater game.

The team is again focused on the task at hand.  Johns Hopkins is a cinderella team, and one to be taken seriously, no matter how good you may be.

And yes, I would like two of the usual.  No burritos, please.  And many thanks, Wesleydad!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 04, 2009, 08:36:13 AM
wesleydad,

Yessir... my plan is to be in Alliance next weekend.  So we have that to look forward to at least...

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bulldog10 on December 04, 2009, 10:33:11 AM
Will this game be sold out?  To the point where they stop letting people in?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 04, 2009, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 03, 2009, 09:22:06 PM
llama, sorry to hear that you are not making the trip, but i understand totally.  You know that Jason and I will be there for the brunch, communion, and all the other great things that go on at the Stagg.  Do I have those 2 tickets you mentioned?  We will be arriving Friday afternoon so you guys will have to let me know where the hang out will be.


Yep plan to be in your usual spot, 50 yrdline at the Stagg. At present there are about 16 coming from Bridgewater, 4 from Texas, 2 from HSC and yourself. Since there is a gun show in the civic center I have a sneaky suspicion that AF4 and boy may be there if he is physically able. :D

Good luck tomorrow. If the game is attended like BC 2005 then it should be quite an atmosphere. Made me think of our 2000-2005 playoff run where we took 1500 fans wherever we played in the playoffs, from Washington, PA to Theil, CNU, Dover, etc.
Take in every playoff game for your team you can get to! After not going to the playoffs for 4 years it sure allows one to appreciate how enjoyable it is to go. There is no tailgate and game like a playoff game. I'll be listening!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: GoHop on December 04, 2009, 11:57:29 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 01, 2009, 01:36:29 PM
Quote from: GoHop on December 01, 2009, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 30, 2009, 10:15:32 PM
Would be nice if Wesley dropped the $20. partking fee this week back to $5 to open up the parking area?? There won't be much room within blocks to park !! I know why it was raised but under the circumstances with maybe the biggest crowd ever expected maybe they could change thee policy for the day ;D

Is it true that you can't go back to your car after the game starts or during half time?

I know its not the topic here... but how did you like the TMC Tailgate, GoHop?  You guys were the 1st team we saw actually cater in food.  Almost as impressive as what JHU did to Thomas More on the field. 

SaintsFan, JHU parents and fans have travelled well this year, tailgates have been good all year, especially at home games. Only the playoff games have been catered, pulled pork at Hampden-Sydney, ribs & chili at TMC, can't wait to see what we have at Wesley... Stop by if you're there
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 04, 2009, 02:22:17 PM
Will I be in real trouble if I wear my PURPLE rain suit tomorrow,,I'll cover the team name with tape !! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 04, 2009, 04:05:21 PM
Quote from: Bulldog10 on December 04, 2009, 10:33:11 AM
Will this game be sold out?  To the point where they stop letting people in?

I guess we'll find out tommorow!!  Be there early if you plan to go.  And as mentioned repeatedly, dress warm and for rain!

I'm pumped up once again.  I love it when the week flies by!!!

Have a safe travel day everybody!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 04, 2009, 11:51:16 PM
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Llamaguy on December 05, 2009, 01:23:32 AM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on December 04, 2009, 02:22:17 PM
Will I be in real trouble if I wear my PURPLE rain suit tomorrow,,I'll cover the team name with tape !! ;D

Why would you want to cover that Viking logo? (he,he,he) I wore a Mt Union hat to the Wesley vs. UMHB game in Dover a few years ago. Yes a few heads turned but not nearly as many as would have turned had I wore my UWW hat. Have fun tomorrow or rather today! Good luck Wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 05, 2009, 07:22:03 AM
Well, the weather man finally gets it right.  Sucks.  Game time in less than 5 hours.  If JHU travels that well it will make for a fun atmosphere.  GOHoP, look for me, I will have a #13 jersey on, hanging out with some college kids since all my old tailgate friends kids have left the school.  Weather will not effect the field much since it is turf nor do I think it hurts Wesley's offense.  If the defense plays as well as it has all year and Wesley protects the ball like the have most of the year, they will win this game, say, 35 - 10.  Safe travels to the Hopkins faithful and enjoy the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 05, 2009, 07:29:38 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on December 05, 2009, 01:23:32 AM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on December 04, 2009, 02:22:17 PM
Will I be in real trouble if I wear my PURPLE rain suit tomorrow,,I'll cover the team name with tape !! ;D

Why would you want to cover that Viking logo? (he,he,he) I wore a Mt Union hat to the Wesley vs. UMHB game in Dover a few years ago. Yes a few heads turned but not nearly as many as would have turned had I wore my UWW hat. Have fun tomorrow or rather today! Good luck Wolverines.



I usually sit in front of Coach Drass's family and his Mom does not like the Purple,,but I still do,,hope to see y' all in two weeks   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 05, 2009, 03:23:05 PM
Sounds like a great game turned on a fake punt early for Hopkins. 

Good thing Wesley gets out of this weather for MUC this week. 

I'm rooting for our South Region champ.. But they have to bring it 150% more than they did today against The Machine that Wesleydad and I have seen in person. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 05, 2009, 03:34:48 PM
Yes!  This is what I was hoping for earlier this year.  I think it will be a good one next week.  Wesleydad.......bring as many as will make the trip, and we will see you at the Wing Warehouse Friday night.  I will make sure we have tables reserved, because it sounds like we may have a pretty good bunch coming.  Saintsfan......see you there. 

Mount is rolling.........turned the ball over three out of the first four times they had it and still led 28-3 at the half. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 05, 2009, 04:14:34 PM
Now that I got the feeling back in my hands, I can type!  Yep, definately not a game to boast about, but a win is a win.  Johns Hopkins played pretty tough, but the weather played tougher!  Well, the Wesley defense shined once again, holding JH to 136 total yards. 

That game was about as cold, wet and windy as you can get!  The rain turned to sleet and snow at the end of the game.  The players were really cold!

Onto Mount Union. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 05, 2009, 05:46:28 PM
well, i think that may have been the worst conditions I have ever watched a football game in.  cold, wet, and windy doesnt make for much fun as a fan.  Johns Hopkins plays some pretty tough defense, good thing that Wesley does too.  Nothing can be taken from this game as far as Wesley's chances next week against Mount, the weather was horrendous.  I will say that if the defense plays this tough again, it will be a game.  congrats to Johns Hopkins for a fine season and you guys certainly travel well, more fans then wesley did.

Us wesley fans take some heat for how we conduct ourselves, but myself, my son, and his friend certainly look good to the dozen or so Hopkins cars that we had to push out of the tailgate field since the rain made it a total mess with mud.

Skunks sidekick, i have a prior commitment on friday evening that will prevent me from arriving friday night, thanks for the invite.  i will be on the road early saturday with plans to arrive in alliance in time to join you for margaritas and eggs.  i will have 2 others with me, so we will see you then.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 05, 2009, 07:24:33 PM
wesleydad:  Sorry to hear you won't be able to make our Friday gathering.  I'll have to make SaintsFAN drink your allotment.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 05, 2009, 10:44:26 PM
You know it, hscoach.  If I'm not calling the game, can you get me a press box pass?  I can do some guest commentary for you and Ric. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 06, 2009, 10:33:15 AM
Saints, sorry i cant make it friday night, had a good time last year.

wesley fans, if you want to have good conversation about the game, head over to the OAC board, plenty of mount folks there, most are really knowledgable about all things mount so you will get a good feel for the game, plus I can use some help tauting wesley's team and chances this year. 

if anyone is making the trip, myself, jason and a school friend will be hitting the road early saturday morning to arrive in alliance by 930 for margaritas and breakfast with some mount folks.  I hope that there is a good showing of fan support for the team, more than just parents.  it is an easy drive from pa and I am sure that it is pretty easy from dover, just longer.  hope to see you at the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 06, 2009, 11:15:02 AM
Well, not really much to say about this one except a win is a win. Whose all coming to Alliance?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theaprof on December 06, 2009, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: HScoach on December 05, 2009, 07:24:33 PM
wesleydad:  Sorry to hear you won't be able to make our Friday gathering.  I'll have to make SaintsFAN drink your allotment.



Hey, according to earlier posts, isn't saintsfan supposed to be buying all of the drinks at the WWF(riday) gathering?? ;) ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theaprof on December 06, 2009, 05:03:55 PM
To any of the Wesley fans traveling to Alliance--

For the past several years I have been trading apparel--t-shirts or hats (your choice) with our semi-final and Stagg opponents.  Obviously I have no Wesley gear since this is our first meeting.  If anyone is interested in a MUC (this is the last year, as we are changing our identity to University next year) hat or T-shirt send me a PM and we can figure out how to make the trade--nothing mean intended here, just an honest desire to collect items from lots of D3 schools.  I have hats or shirts from Bridgewater, UWW, Hampton-Sydney, Cortland, Christopher Newport.....

Good luck in the game and safe travels to all!

theaprof

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bulldog10 on December 06, 2009, 09:25:47 PM
Mt. Union - 42
Wesley - 10

Will not even be close.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 06, 2009, 09:36:34 PM
Bulldog10, care to elaborate as to why you dont think it will even be close.  or are you one of those posters who just like to chirp without basis for your chirping.  since you came over here and dont post very often i figure you dont do much on the OAC site, because the more knowledgable Mount fans believe that this could and should be a very good game.  enjoy your little foray into our domain and come back anytime you want to spread such great incite into this weeks game.  if you cant do that then your opinion will be considered just plain bull@@@##$.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2009, 09:39:50 PM
Bulldog10

You aren't going to get anyone in here to react to childish posts. None of us has kids on the teams and the players don't come in here .  We rehash the game and talk about what we feel is how the teams is doing and what strengths and weaknesses they have . And we don't all agree on that some of the time. Wesley will come to Mount Union and play hard.  If they play like they have all year the game should be a good football game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 06, 2009, 11:40:42 PM
Quote from: Bulldog10 on December 06, 2009, 09:25:47 PM
Mt. Union - 42
Wesley - 10

Will not even be close.

How dare you. Mount Union is averaging 57.5 point per game in the playoffs. Are you sandbagging?? ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 06, 2009, 11:43:44 PM
Can't make it to the game, but I hear the Green Stinger may have it on the tube next Saturday. Does anyone know of anywhere else?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 07, 2009, 09:51:18 AM
Quote from: theaprof on December 06, 2009, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: HScoach on December 05, 2009, 07:24:33 PM
wesleydad:  Sorry to hear you won't be able to make our Friday gathering.  I'll have to make SaintsFAN drink your allotment.



Hey, according to earlier posts, isn't saintsfan supposed to be buying all of the drinks at the WWF(riday) gathering?? ;) ;)

Negative!




FYI --- bulldog is a Johns Hopkins/Centennial guy... not an OAC poster
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 07, 2009, 11:23:58 AM
saintsfan, thanks for the info on bullbleep.  figured as much since most OAC posters dont post like that without an explanation.  will need to find you on saturday, i will be joining skunks sidekick for breakfast, but may leave early to hit a tailgate or 2 with the college boys since i am sure they want to check out the talent.

waterboy, when are you arriving?  we should get together at some point, would like to meet you.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bulldog10 on December 07, 2009, 01:47:31 PM
I am a Centennial guy you are 100% correct.

I am an F and M alum class of 2002 and I still keep tabs on the conference closely.  I listened to the game between JH and Wesley.  I saw Mt. Union play live earlier this year and I honestly do not think anyone is going to be able to stop them.  They are a well oiled machine and while Wesley has an excellent team, I think Mt. Union takes the whole thing this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 07, 2009, 02:22:41 PM
Quote from: Bulldog10 on December 07, 2009, 01:47:31 PM
I am a Centennial guy you are 100% correct.

I am an F and M alum class of 2002 and I still keep tabs on the conference closely.  I listened to the game between JH and Wesley.  I saw Mt. Union play live earlier this year and I honestly do not think anyone is going to be able to stop them.  They are a well oiled machine and while Wesley has an excellent team, I think Mt. Union takes the whole thing this year.

Some folks in WI may have something to say about that.  ;)  If MUC and UWW are lucky enough to make it to Salem, I will be nervously watching that one.  I've said it since Day 1, UWW should have been preseason #1 based on what they had returning (8-11 on Offense and 10-11 on Defense) and since MUC lost Micheli and Kmic.  Not saying they are irreplaceable, but hard to replace both in one year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bulldog10 on December 07, 2009, 05:13:01 PM
I meant no offense to Wesley at all on my prediction.....

I just do not see them being able to stop Mt. Union.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on December 07, 2009, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: kirasdad on December 07, 2009, 02:22:41 PM
Quote from: Bulldog10 on December 07, 2009, 01:47:31 PM
I am a Centennial guy you are 100% correct.

I am an F and M alum class of 2002 and I still keep tabs on the conference closely.  I listened to the game between JH and Wesley.  I saw Mt. Union play live earlier this year and I honestly do not think anyone is going to be able to stop them.  They are a well oiled machine and while Wesley has an excellent team, I think Mt. Union takes the whole thing this year.

Some folks in WI may have something to say about that.  ;)  If MUC and UWW are lucky enough to make it to Salem, I will be nervously watching that one.  I've said it since Day 1, UWW should have been preseason #1 based on what they had returning (8-11 on Offense and 10-11 on Defense) and since MUC lost Micheli and Kmic.  Not saying they are irreplaceable, but hard to replace both in one year.

8)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 07, 2009, 06:30:42 PM
wesleydad,

I plan on getting there pretty early but I will see how the weather plays out. Ill probably straighten those details out as the game gets closer. But I expect to get there at least an hour or two before game time.

As for the game. I think it should be a very good one. Thats all Im going to say. Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 07, 2009, 08:20:53 PM
Quote from: kirasdad on December 07, 2009, 02:22:41 PM
Quote from: Bulldog10 on December 07, 2009, 01:47:31 PM
I am a Centennial guy you are 100% correct.

I am an F and M alum class of 2002 and I still keep tabs on the conference closely.  I listened to the game between JH and Wesley.  I saw Mt. Union play live earlier this year and I honestly do not think anyone is going to be able to stop them. They are a well oiled machine and while Wesley has an excellent team, I think Mt. Union takes the whole thing this year.

Some folks in WI may have something to say about that.  ;)  If MUC and UWW are lucky enough to make it to Salem, I will be nervously watching that one.  I've said it since Day 1, UWW should have been preseason #1 based on what they had returning (8-11 on Offense and 10-11 on Defense) and since MUC lost Micheli and Kmic.  Not saying they are irreplaceable, but hard to replace both in one year.

;)
Kirasdad,
I agree with your assessment. If UWW and MUC do indeed both advance to the Stagg, it would be hard for reasonable fan of either team to "guarantee" a victory without a tongue firmly planted in cheek.

Bulldog 10,
While it is not exactly venturing out on the longest limb on the tree to pick MUC, even some Purple Raiders fans may question the "well oiled" part of your opinion. Given the 5 turnovers Saturday, perhaps there was TOO MUCH oil in the machine last Saturday.  ;D

Undoubtedly LK will have that straightened out by Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 08, 2009, 12:31:40 AM
WESLEY! We salute you.

We are in the same Gladiator school.

This our chance to play you this year - don't screw up   :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 08, 2009, 03:33:07 PM
Heres another note of mine on Saturdays game. Mount HAS NOT faced a team like Wesley, and Wesley has not faced a team like Mount. (I think ODU is arguable however). Just wanted to throw that out there.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on December 08, 2009, 03:56:34 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 08, 2009, 03:33:07 PM
Heres another note of mine on Saturdays game. Mount HAS NOT faced a team like Wesley, and Wesley has not faced a team like Mount. (I think ODU is arguable however). Just wanted to throw that out there.  ;)

Can you elaborate on that...what exactly is a team like Wesley? There's a couple of really good programs in the OAC that gave MUC a little trouble early on this season...

I agree with you about Wesley not facing a team like Mount, though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 08, 2009, 07:07:12 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 08, 2009, 12:31:40 AM
WESLEY! We salute you.

We are in the same Gladiator school.

This our chance to play you this year - don't screw up   :D

The NCAA just HAS to crank up their publicity machine a little bit. Here they added a 3rd Place Game this year and I didn't even hear about it!  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 08, 2009, 07:12:21 PM
boy, the Whitewater people just cant help themselves.  Have to take shots even when they arent playing Wesley.  Good luck in your game, maybe we will see you again.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on December 08, 2009, 07:32:16 PM
Put up a podcast of today's Press Conference involving Mount Union Head Coach Larry Kehres on our WDEL website.  I believe you can download and/or listen to it from WDEL's podcast page or use this direct link to the file...

http://www.wdel.com/features/kehresmuc.mp3

The video of my interview with Mike Drass will be up on the WDEL and Wesley websites once I get that chopped up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 08, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
wdelsean

You have done a great job with the high lights. Now all we need is a place were you can archive  the game sso we can listen to them later!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on December 08, 2009, 07:51:08 PM
Well the two major downsides of that are the way we record our games makes it extremely difficult to chop extremely long audio files together and the sheer file size.  (Something close to a GB for a game)  Between my trafficwatch duties at the station and what I manage to get done with Wesley I'm getting about as much sleep as the coaches myself at this point

Plus for NCAA tourney games, podcasting game audio isn't allowed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 08, 2009, 08:18:22 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on December 08, 2009, 07:32:16 PM
Put up a podcast of today's Press Conference involving Mount Union Head Coach Larry Kehres on our WDEL website.  I believe you can download and/or listen to it from WDEL's podcast page or use this direct link to the file...

http://www.wdel.com/features/kehresmuc.mp3

The video of my interview with Mike Drass will be up on the WDEL and Wesley websites once I get that chopped up.

Sean,

Thanks for sharing that!  Very interesting observations.  We'll see how it all pans out on Saturday.  I know the team is pumped!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on December 08, 2009, 08:52:43 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 08, 2009, 07:12:21 PM
boy, the Whitewater people just cant help themselves.  Have to take shots even when they arent playing Wesley.  Good luck in your game, maybe we will see you again.

that was actually a sincere question believe it or not....I see they had a good regular season and wanted to know more about them.

However, i saw you posted a breakdown on the team on the OAC site...thanks

Best of luck Sat...if Whitewater wins this weekend i wouldn't exactly be heart broken if MUC stays in Alliance the following weekend, if you get my drift   ;D. I'll be pulling for you guys.. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theaprof on December 09, 2009, 02:41:54 PM
I'll ask again--anyone from Wesley want to trade t-shirts or hats this weekend?  I'd love to add a piece of Wesley wear to my wardrobe.  Trying to add as many d3 schools as I can.

Contact me by PM

theaprof
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: yellowtengo on December 09, 2009, 05:40:19 PM
Just wanted to wish y'all (Wesley) good luck. We made the long trip from Mississippi for the MC game and enjoyed everything even though we got our rearends kicked. Y'all have a great team and I personally hope you win it all. I got to talk to your head coach after the game and he seems to be a great guy. Again, GOOD LUCK.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 09, 2009, 06:43:57 PM
yellowtengo, thanks for the well wishes and I am glad you enjoyed the trip to Dover.  Yea, the coach is a pretty good guy most of the time, the players made beg to differ, but isnt that the way of all players while they are playing.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 09, 2009, 08:26:52 PM
is anyone making the trip this weekend.  I know there are only a few of us posting and travel is not always possible.  It would be a shame if there is not a good showing for a drivable distance, albeit, 7 hours from wesley, but still doable.

wdelsean, i figure you guys are arriving friday night, we will not be in until saturday morning.  if you are looking for something to do on friday evening and would like to get some insight into mount union, i would suggest going to the wing warehouse near the campus.  plenty of the posters from the OAC board are meeting for the annual, at least for them get together, before the smi final game.  they are real nice guys and know plenty about mount, gladly sharing the info.  they plan to arrive after 7, so stop in if you can, you will have a good time, i met them there last year and they are gracious hosts.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theaprof on December 09, 2009, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 09, 2009, 08:26:52 PM
is anyone making the trip this weekend.  I know there are only a few of us posting and travel is not always possible.  It would be a shame if there is not a good showing for a drivable distance, albeit, 7 hours from wesley, but still doable.

wdelsean, i figure you guys are arriving friday night, we will not be in until saturday morning.  if you are looking for something to do on friday evening and would like to get some insight into mount union, i would suggest going to the wing warehouse near the campus.  plenty of the posters from the OAC board are meeting for the annual, at least for them get together, before the smi final game.  they are real nice guys and know plenty about mount, gladly sharing the info.  they plan to arrive after 7, so stop in if you can, you will have a good time, i met them there last year and they are gracious hosts.

We welcome Wesley fans--be sure to wear your colors so we can pick you out from the local "talent"--there will be wings and beverages--we look forward to meeting all (any) of you--be assured that we will be friendly, but proud!!  Sorry that dad won't be there this year--look forward to saintsFAN and any Wesley supporters that make the trip.  Wing Warehouse is on State Street (US 62) right by the SW corner of campus--straight east from the Alliance hotels on the left (north) side of the road.  Hope to meet some of you there!!

Safe Travels!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 09, 2009, 08:55:30 PM
^ yup.  What he said.  Looking forward to an evening of BSing about football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 09, 2009, 09:57:01 PM
WOOO! All this talk is making me nervous and excited. ill be there Saturday, we will see how it plays out. I think a delayed play of the game is going to be on Sportstime Ohio at 10.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 10, 2009, 12:09:08 AM
Any word on the talent up there, hscoach or theaprof??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 10, 2009, 12:10:37 AM
And I should point out, that whole "talent" thing has taken on a life of its own.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 10, 2009, 06:31:20 AM
Well, I'll be heading out with the team tonight.  I'm excited about this game.  It won't be long until the Raiders and the Wolverines take to the field to see if David can slay Goliath.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 10, 2009, 07:19:51 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 10, 2009, 12:09:08 AM
Any word on the talent up there, hscoach or theaprof??


Uh, you've been to Alliance before so you already know that answer.  Anything of age that is worth a 2nd look has already left NE Ohio for some place warm and sunny.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 10, 2009, 08:47:24 PM
PA_Wesleyfan, wesleydad, wdelsean...

can you help my understanding of Wesley's schedule?

Is there a north and south division of their conference?

Are there only 3 other teams in that conference?

Did they play 4 non DIII games this year?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 10, 2009, 09:10:15 PM
DOC. that would be a no to the north -south question and a yes to the other 2 questions.  several teams have left the conference the last couple of year leaving them with only 4 teams.  tough to fill out a schedule when they have had trouble finding teams to play for various reasons.  took what they could get and it may have helped as ohio dom was a pretty good squad, certainly would have been top 20 or better in D3.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 10, 2009, 09:14:10 PM
Thank-you.

Wesley's reputation precedes them.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on December 11, 2009, 07:49:03 PM
pawesley, wesleydad and the rest of the Wesley fans :

I was in Alliance (2) weeks ago to watch Montclair play the Machine. It was a great experience, the MUC fans and alums were great. The machine dominated, we never gave up and it was a war even the score was not indicative. So far Montclair is the only eastern team to score (14) on the machine (this was done in the 1st half). I keep using the word the machine and they are that, But :

You guys have a real shot at them. Play Wesley football and you can do it. Don't be intimidated by them. I followed you guys in 2000 and 2001 and then became a Montclair wacko ever since. I think you are the next team to step up to the MUC and WWW level. Three years ago Wesley was the big stud and Montclair came to your place and came away with a win. You guys can do the same.

Play your game and don't be intimidated. Good Luck !!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 11, 2009, 09:04:43 PM
rams1102, thanks for the vote of confidence.  wesley has a shot, a real good shot to win this game.  hitting the road at 3 to make breakfast at 930 in alliance, 2 passengers with me.  go wesley, step it up and get it done.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 12, 2009, 08:22:51 AM
Well, the team isn't phased by MUC, trust me on that.  Practice went well yesterday at the field and a trip to the NFL HOF was a blast.  But, today, it will be settled once and for all. 

See you at the game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 12, 2009, 08:30:06 AM
Conrad!  It was great meeting you, and sharing some stories.  You represent Wesley well, and I hope you have a great experience at the game today. 

I am off to meet Wesleydad and his entourage at the margarita breakfast summit.  Adios!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 12, 2009, 09:48:06 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 12, 2009, 08:30:06 AM
Conrad!  It was great meeting you, and sharing some stories.  You represent Wesley well, and I hope you have a great experience at the game today. 

I agree.  Except for the game experience part.......... ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 12, 2009, 10:09:25 AM
 Well everyone else who posts here is at the game today.

This is the best team Wesley has had in the 15 years I have been following them.

I think you throw out the two losses to WW a few years ago because their is only on maybe two players left from those games.
Noone seems to remember that both those games started the same way. Wesley having terrible field position and getting scored  on early and then things just snowballing...no pun intented!! ;) Add the fact that it was just aboout the same team both years and the mental let down that occured when WW scored early in that game... That's the past

This team has a different look.  They play as a unit and pick each other up after a missed play. If Mc Sweeney gets his reads right he will make some plays . I am looking forward to a great game

Good luck to both teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 12, 2009, 12:27:01 PM
Ouch, Look out Rocco, meet Aaron Benson.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 12, 2009, 01:13:33 PM
Too bad JAckson isn't 100% Wonder if he plays the second half this week? He hasn't be able go in the second half the last three weeks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 12, 2009, 03:54:03 PM
Quote from: HScoach on December 12, 2009, 09:48:06 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 12, 2009, 08:30:06 AM
Conrad!  It was great meeting you, and sharing some stories.  You represent Wesley well, and I hope you have a great experience at the game today. 

I agree.  Except for the game experience part.......... ;)
Thanks gentleman. I had a great time last night and some hope going into the 4th quarter. Can't ask for more than that. Too much Cecil Shorts and the your defense was great. Hope that Rocco is okay and that you guys are full strength for the Stagg next week. Looks like my wife will get her weekend in Baltimore next weekend. She deserves it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: purpled on December 12, 2009, 05:39:58 PM
Hard fought game today Wesley. A few turnovers cost you the game.  Without Rocco for a while we were sweating it out...putting a freshman QB in that position doesn't always have a good ending.  Bad for you that Shorts came to the rescue.

I'm sure Wesley will be back next year. Congrats on a great year!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 12, 2009, 09:13:27 PM
Good season Wolverines, sure would like to play 1 more game though. The Wolverines couldnt establish a running game and a few turnovers cost them the game. I dont believe that they played their best game either. Watched some of the game on STO. The MUC player never tipped the ball when he ran into Smicklo. Should have been obvious anyway since footballs that are tipped dont go 50 yards. And the roughing the punter call that was called was bad. The punter just grazed the shoulder pad of the Wolverine who started to turn around. Then he just fell down. But its over and all that matters now is the score. Good job Mount Union, will miss the seniors. Now its time to prepare for the long offseason, but hopefully not too long.

Talked with some Mount Unioners, all nice people. You all represent your school well and should be proud. However, when the Wolverines were on their way to the lockerroom during halftime, there were some MUC fans shouting obscene remarks at the players.

Good luck to Mount in the Stagg, and Go Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 12, 2009, 09:27:48 PM
the waterboy
The running into the punter showed on replay that the Wesley player ran into the punter without even trying to avoid contact. It's good to be agressive but that player was called for numberous personal fouls this year on special teams. The biggest plays of the game were the INT in the end zone and some dropped passes. To bad Aaron Jackson was hurt the last few weeks.. He was not able to gets his cuts again today
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 13, 2009, 04:49:43 PM
well, just got back from alliance.  6 hour ride turned into 8 hours with freezing rain to start, pa turnpike shut down for a half hour, and then slow going for 45 miles near pittsburgh made for a long drive.  we are home safe and enjoyed the trip.

not to belabor what has already been said, but this team had a chance and no one stepped up to make the plays when they were needed.  one teams top player gets put in position to make plays and does while the other teams supposed big receiver fails to make a crucial catch when the game was still 10 - 7 in the third, plus dropped several other passes and failed to fight for an extra foot that would have given wesley a first down early in the game.  i guess that is the difference between a team player and an individual.  the only turnover that really made a difference was the pop pass.  where does that play come from?  When given the opportunity to use your top receiver against the smaller db's on the play that has worked all year, coach calls for a play they did not run all year to the short side of the field to the TE, covered by 4 players.

The defense was fantastic, unfortunately they were the second best one on the field today.  mounts defense is scary fast and disciplined.  their d line had a field day witht the O line, constantly in mcsweeneys face as soon as he caught the snap.  bottom line is  too much mount d and too much cecil shorts.

great season for the team and they earned a lot of respect from the mount people at the game.  we had at least 2 dozen people stop by us on the way out while we had a couple beverages after the game congratulating the team on a great game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toph on December 13, 2009, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 12, 2009, 09:13:27 PM
Good season Wolverines, sure would like to play 1 more game though. The Wolverines couldnt establish a running game and a few turnovers cost them the game. I dont believe that they played their best game either. Watched some of the game on STO. The MUC player never tipped the ball when he ran into Smicklo. Should have been obvious anyway since footballs that are tipped dont go 50 yards. And the roughing the punter call that was called was bad. The punter just grazed the shoulder pad of the Wolverine who started to turn around. Then he just fell down. But its over and all that matters now is the score. Good job Mount Union, will miss the seniors. Now its time to prepare for the long offseason, but hopefully not too long.

Talked with some Mount Unioners, all nice people. You all represent your school well and should be proud. However, when the Wolverines were on their way to the lockerroom during halftime, there were some MUC fans shouting obscene remarks at the players.

Good luck to Mount in the Stagg, and Go Wesley.

I wouldn't start casting stones there.  I've never seen a team try to engage the opposing fans sitting behind the bench as much as Wesley.  For a team that didn't lead at any point in the game and couldn't stop a completely one dimensional offense, those guys were flapping their gums quite a bit.  Amazingly, the coaching staff made no effort whatsoever to prevent the players from talking smack with the fans.  When you talk as much as some of those kids did (#26 and #7 in particular), you're going to hear a lot of things from the fans.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 05:48:14 PM
Toph

When I originally brought that up I was talking about the MU  players running by the Wesley bench at half time and yes they were taunting. I had heard about the fans all week and unfortunately you are never going to controll that unless you get rid of the drinking pre game. Of course when you make it a point week after week to sit in the visiting stands aren't you making a statement to begin with? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 13, 2009, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 05:48:14 PM
Toph

When I originally brought that up I was talking about the MU  players running by the Wesley bench at half time and yes they were taunting. I had heard about the fans all week and unfortunately you are never going to controll that unless you get rid of the drinking pre game. Of course when you make it a point week after week to sit in the visiting stands aren't you making a statement to begin with? 

Unfortunatly, those are probably the best seats in the stadium (unless it is raining).  When you sit on the Home Side it is harder to get a decent view of the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 13, 2009, 05:52:19 PM
pa Wesley,,are you going to the Stagg ??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 05:56:22 PM
 wesley had problems with students a few yars ago and now they charge twenty bucks to park and the parking lot has to be empty a few minutes before game time .So that did away with the students plus alot of other who used to tailgait. I just don't like that part of the game experience. i am sure you heard our one parent who screams at the coaches the whole game!  to bad his son didn't show up to play yesterday.  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 13, 2009, 05:59:30 PM
Quote from: Toph on December 13, 2009, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 12, 2009, 09:13:27 PM
Good season Wolverines, sure would like to play 1 more game though. The Wolverines couldnt establish a running game and a few turnovers cost them the game. I dont believe that they played their best game either. Watched some of the game on STO. The MUC player never tipped the ball when he ran into Smicklo. Should have been obvious anyway since footballs that are tipped dont go 50 yards. And the roughing the punter call that was called was bad. The punter just grazed the shoulder pad of the Wolverine who started to turn around. Then he just fell down. But its over and all that matters now is the score. Good job Mount Union, will miss the seniors. Now its time to prepare for the long offseason, but hopefully not too long.

Talked with some Mount Unioners, all nice people. You all represent your school well and should be proud. However, when the Wolverines were on their way to the lockerroom during halftime, there were some MUC fans shouting obscene remarks at the players.

Good luck to Mount in the Stagg, and Go Wesley.

I wouldn't start casting stones there.  I've never seen a team try to engage the opposing fans sitting behind the bench as much as Wesley.  For a team that didn't lead at any point in the game and couldn't stop a completely one dimensional offense, those guys were flapping their gums quite a bit.  Amazingly, the coaching staff made no effort whatsoever to prevent the players from talking smack with the fans.  When you talk as much as some of those kids did (#26 and #7 in particular), you're going to hear a lot of things from the fans.

Well said pa wesleyfan.
I was not trying to cast stones by any means, and I apologize if some of you took it that way. As far as the Wesley players trying to engage opposing fans, I disagree. Coach Drass WOULD NOT allow any of that. If it did occur, I am sure it was dealt with in the lockerroom because nothing happened on the field.Yesterday I do not remember seeing any of that, the only interaction with the fans that the players had was when they turned around to fire up their own crowd.

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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 05:59:58 PM
beenhit2hard

No I used up my passes out of town til next year!! ;D And that's a little to far away to get home quickly if I needed too.

 I am sure I would like that experience. I do enjoy talking with people about the game . Too many times things typed are taken the wrong way.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 13, 2009, 06:00:22 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 05:56:22 PM
wesley had problems with students a few yars ago and now they charge twenty bucks to park and the parking lot has to be empty a few minutes before game time .So that did away with the students plus alot of other who used to tailgait. I just don't like that part of the game experience. i am sure you heard our one parent who screams at the coaches the whole game!  to bad his son didn't show up to play yesterday.  

Too bad the problem fans at MUC aren't students, but local townies. Would be hard to charge for parking at MUC.  Too many small lots with multiple entrances and lots of on street parking.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 06:08:18 PM
 Yes i read on the other boards about the townies last week :D
  The locals at Wesley are mostly an older crowd.  And I would have to say they aren't into it as much until later in the seasoon and playoffs. Wesley even with it's success is third fiddle to Del and Del St..

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 13, 2009, 06:22:44 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 06:08:18 PM
Yes i read on the other boards about the townies last week :D
  The locals at Wesley are mostly an older crowd.  And I would have to say they aren't into it as much until later in the seasoon and playoffs. Wesley even with it's success is third fiddle to Del and Del St..

MUC has an older crowd also.  They are sitting under the covered stands, with plaid blankets laid across their laps.
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Post by: Teamski on December 13, 2009, 06:35:28 PM
Well, I got back with the team early this morning and finally got my computer working again after it failed for some reason while I was out of town.

Overall, I was really happy with how Wesley played.  Wesley's defense did a great job, but MUC's defense did a better job against the Wesley offense, and it just wasn't in the cards for the Wolverines this time around.  Trailing 10-7 into the fourth quarter isn't bad at all.   Wesley silenced the "townees" for quite a while in the second half.  Congrads to Mount Union for a convincing game.

OK, let me say this about the "townees."  I was in the camera room right above both the Wesley and MU fans.  I have never seen such a rude bunch of fans in the whole time I have watched DIII.  Now, I understand that the fans are side-by-side, but come on.  Now, I'm sure some of the Wesley fans didn't help the situation, but at the end of the first half, there were calls for a fight.  I talked to a Raider staffer and he let me know that the Raiders were not behind these fans and he looked pretty embarassaed about the whole situation.  He mentioned that the Alma Maters sat in the old stand across the field, and that these jokers on my side were called "townees" by MUC.  Pretty sad stuff.


As far as players, Wesley was not the only team on the field taunting.  During pregame, Cecil was doing his side-line-to-side-line pregame sprints.  He purposely ran onto our sidelines, making people have to move for him.  Totally unnecesary. The same was being done by the special teams coaches themselves.  They had their kickers kick the ball to our sideline causing us to have to keep our attention on them as not to get hit by a ball.  Usually, kickers kick on their side of the field, along the length.  You don't kick into the opponents sidelines.  I consider these sources of intimidation that MUC might not know that they are doing, or maybe they do.  Seriously, this was the first time that I have seen this type of behavior from an opposing team.

I have heard elsewhere that MUC can be one of the most trash talking of any DIII team.  I have to agree that this is the case.  Wesley wasn't going to take it, and it showed.

When it is all said and done, MUC was the better team on the field, that nobody will argue. SO it was settled on the field.

Thanks to Wesley for another great season.  This was my first as the videographer of the team, and I sure learned a lot in how much work it is for both the coaches and the players to keep a team near the very top of DIII.  Thanks to Coach Drass and his fine staff for one hell of a season.  We'll see ya next year.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 13, 2009, 06:39:08 PM





Quote from: kirasdad on December 13, 2009, 06:22:44 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 06:08:18 PM
Yes i read on the other boards about the townies last week :D
  The locals at Wesley are mostly an older crowd.  And I would have to say they aren't into it as much until later in the seasoon and playoffs. Wesley even with it's success is third fiddle to Del and Del St..

MUC has an older crowd also.  They are sitting under the covered stands, with plaid blankets laid across their laps.





I do not have a plaid blanket,,I have a Purple one
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 13, 2009, 06:40:11 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 05:48:14 PM
Toph

When I originally brought that up I was talking about the MU  players running by the Wesley bench at half time and yes they were taunting. I had heard about the fans all week and unfortunately you are never going to controll that unless you get rid of the drinking pre game. Of course when you make it a point week after week to sit in the visiting stands aren't you making a statement to begin with? 

The half time incident was as a result of a couple of frustrated boys in blue mixing it up after the whistle. There was one blindside cheapshot well after the whistle at about the 20 that got the sidelines fired up. Watching from the south endzone we just thought it was an amazingly dumb time and place to pick a fight. BTW, most of the Mount players were heading to the locker room. No sure exactly where the Wesley sidelines and coaches were headed??

As I  saw it the Raiders were yelling at "our" wackos in the center sections
Granted I see the world thru purple glasses
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 13, 2009, 06:53:59 PM
seventies, both teams were responsible for the halftime junk that went on.  it is easy to try and cover for mount that they were just going to the locker room, but that doesnt jibe when they have to exit on the opposing side of the field.  since they go to the building at the far end of the complex, they could certainly exit by the snack bar, score board end and never have an interaction with their opponents.  this is clearly done as a way to intimidate, which i have no problem with except when it causes situations like yesterdays.  the banter continued behind the stands with mount making no effort to remove  their players from the situation since they "were only walking to the locker room".

waterboy, the players mentioned by toph did spend some time looking into the stands by the scoreboard side of the field which is where i was sitting.  i did not hear them say anything, but i was watching the game.

teamski, we had tickets in section 13 and chose to sit away from there due to the stuff that i had heard about during the week.  no need to get involved with that.

pawesleyfan, must of us who partake in the pregame handle it just fine and enjoy the comeraderie that it brings.  we spent yesterdays pregame after breakfast talking to some of the purple suits and they are a nice group of kids.  actually knew about wesley and were looking forward to a good game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 13, 2009, 07:04:32 PM
Only mid-field half time confrontation I've seen in forty years. I'm not trying to be contrary but do the math

North end locker room is a recent addition. Tradition is home  team enters where they please.

Trash talk is older the Knute Rockne.

To quote one is LK's rougher comments, "We ain't playing table tennis"
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 08:22:40 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on December 13, 2009, 06:39:08 PM





Quote from: kirasdad on December 13, 2009, 06:22:44 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 06:08:18 PM
Yes i read on the other boards about the townies last week :D
  The locals at Wesley are mostly an older crowd.  And I would have to say they aren't into it as much until later in the seasoon and playoffs. Wesley even with it's success is third fiddle to Del and Del St..

MUC has an older crowd also.  They are sitting under the covered stands, with plaid blankets laid across their laps.





I do not have a plaid blanket,,I have a Purple one  :D



And beenhit2hard isn't old  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 08:25:58 PM
wesleydad  you know who did the trouble making before and as I stated it was the students.I also srtated that  it has caused others to sto penjoying the pregame because of the cost
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 13, 2009, 08:26:18 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 08:22:40 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on December 13, 2009, 06:39:08 PM
Quote from: kirasdad on December 13, 2009, 06:22:44 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 06:08:18 PM
Yes i read on the other boards about the townies last week :D
The locals at Wesley are mostly an older crowd.  And I would have to say they aren't into it as much until later in the seasoon and playoffs. Wesley even with it's success is third fiddle to Del and Del St..
MUC has an older crowd also.  They are sitting under the covered stands, with plaid blankets laid across their laps.
I do not have a plaid blanket,,I have a Purple one  :D
And beenhit2hard isn't old  :D

I didn't say he was, I think it was he who included himself in that response.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 08:33:41 PM
kirasdad

  I sit with him at alot of Wesley games  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 08:39:17 PM
Time to watch the BIRDS beat up the Giants again!! ;D! How bout them Cowboys!!! :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 13, 2009, 08:41:54 PM
pawesley, i know, just wanted to add that we are not as bad as some have tried to portray us on this board.  it is a shame as the tailgate area is great for it, ask the johns hopkins people, they came in droves.  maybe they will relax it next year cost wise and see how it goes or have a tiered cost, $5 for parents and old people like us and 10 - 20 for the students.

it was a real good game, very hard hitting.  mount's d is real thing, they controlled the o line easily on both runs and passes.  jackson looked fine on the field, just nowhere to run all lanes covered and no push from the o line.  i just looked at the box score, and running mcsweeney 21 times, i know some are scrambles, but that is way too many especially since many of them had no play fake in them at all.  2 of the interceptions were not critical, the pop pass was the killer.  one ended the game and the other was a long pass to krout, who as usual made no play on the ball until it was intercepted.  very disappointing effort from him yesterday.  second possession, he catches pass on 3rd down and runs out of bounds football short of first down.  move the chains there and mount has more field to cover 2nd possession.  shame the offense was minimized because after the first drive the defense was real good.  most of mounts rush yards came after shorts came in at qb or when they ran 9 straight draws to run out the clock at the half.


progress made, a respectable performance in the semis.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 15, 2009, 04:35:11 PM
Before it gets too quiet around here, I want to wish everybody a Very Merry Christmas and a safe and healthy New Year!  

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 15, 2009, 05:06:36 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 08:33:41 PM
kirasdad

  I sit with him at alot of Wesley games  ;D


Thanks for the support Pa wesley(some days I do feel old ),,and kirasdad,,I will see you saturday if you make the drive,,Coach Monty may be in attendance too ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 15, 2009, 05:14:30 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on December 15, 2009, 05:06:36 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 08:33:41 PM
kirasdad

 I sit with him at alot of Wesley games  ;D


Thanks for the support Pa wesley(some days I do feel old ),,and kirasdad,,I will see you saturday if you make the drive,,Coach Monty may be in attendance too ;D

Small but slow, his son (11), my son (6), and I will be heading up Thursday evening.  Hope to arrive mid morning on Friday.
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 15, 2009, 05:38:01 PM
Ski

Right back at you!!! Here's hoping that you and the familyhave a wonderful holiday season
 
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Post by: wesleydad on December 15, 2009, 08:58:51 PM
pawesley and ski, happy holidays to both of you.  I get one more trip to Dover, jason finally graduating tomorrow night!!!!!  Then off to Salem for the Stagg Bowl, hanging with Stone Station friday night at Hooters and then a 6 a m start for tailgating on Saturday, sucks that the game starts at 11.  The trip is so much fun and hopefully you guys will make the trip some time in the future, Wesley playing would make it even better.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 15, 2009, 09:20:01 PM
wesleydad

Congrats  to Jason... Hope you all have a great holiday.  Have a safe trip to Roanoke
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 15, 2009, 10:57:19 PM
Merry Christmas to all of you. 230+ more days til next season.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 16, 2009, 12:34:31 AM
Wesleydad!  Tell Jr. I have a margarita with HIS name on it!  Looking forward to celebrating his graduation.  I look forward to MY Jr. meeting yours.  Hopefully he doesn't corrupt him TOO much!   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Olinemom on December 16, 2009, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: kirasdad on December 15, 2009, 05:14:30 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on December 15, 2009, 05:06:36 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2009, 08:33:41 PM
kirasdad

 I sit with him at alot of Wesley games  ;D


Thanks for the support Pa wesley(some days I do feel old ),,and kirasdad,,I will see you saturday if you make the drive,,Coach Monty may be in attendance too ;D

Small but slow, his son (11), my son (6), and I will be heading up Thursday evening.  Hope to arrive mid morning on Friday.
I'm alreqady here!!  Can't wait to see everybody!!  They are talking about a possible storm this weekend, but I sure hope not!!  I would like to party wintout freezing to death at the same time!!!!  I would like to meet Monty if you could arrange that.  That would really be swell. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 21, 2009, 07:15:36 PM
well wesley fans, this is what i get from the championship game.  there is a pretty big gap from the top 2 to the next 5 which wesley is in.  UWWW dominated the lines from mount which wesley could not handle at all.  the coaching is also at a different level as both teams made adjustments that changed the flow of the game.  wesley may be able to compete with both teams on any given saturday, but as things are now they would only win maybe 1 out of 10.  no slap against wesley but these teams are just at another level.

everyone have a great holiday season and we get to start this all up again in 8 months.  wesley will be a top 5 team again and hopefully they learned something this year that will allow them to take another step closer to the top 2 in D3.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 21, 2009, 07:56:34 PM
I'm happy you made it home OK.  It was quite the game, wasn't it.  You can definately see the execution.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 21, 2009, 08:07:08 PM
yea, made it home allright, 11 hours to make the 6 hour trip.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 24, 2009, 09:35:55 PM
merry christmas and happy new year to all you wesley fans.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 25, 2009, 08:29:50 PM


Quote from: wesleydad on December 21, 2009, 07:15:36 PM
well wesley fans, this is what i get from the championship game.  there is a pretty big gap from the top 2 to the next 5 which wesley is in.  UWWW dominated the lines from mount which wesley could not handle at all.  the coaching is also at a different level as both teams made adjustments that changed the flow of the game.  wesley may be able to compete with both teams on any given saturday, but as things are now they would only win maybe 1 out of 10.  no slap against wesley but these teams are just at another level.

everyone have a  :) holiday season and we get to start this all up again in 8 months.  wesley will be a top 5 team again and hopefully they learned something this year that will allow them to take another step closer to the top 2 in D3.

Merry Christmas!

One more thing about Wesley compared to Whitewater and Mount. I personally think that the coaches are just as good at Wesley as they are at those other schools. Whitewaters enrollment is nearly 9000. Wesleys is about 2000. It helps when you have that many potential players to choose from. It gives you an advantage over schools like Wesley. Mount doesn't give scholarships but they do give grants, or something. I don't know if other schools do that but some athletes go free there. I am not detracting from the coaches at Mount and Whitewater but I believe Wesleys coaches are just as good. As coaches they try to do the most with the talent that they are given. Both schools most likely had more talent than Wesley. Thus the defeat in Alliance, that and the Wolverines did not play their best game. The coaches call the plays and it is the players job to execute. Just wanted to say something before we start talking about next season

happy holidays! :D  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 25, 2009, 08:55:37 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 25, 2009, 08:29:50 PM
Merry Christmas!

One more thing about Wesley compared to Whitewater and Mount. I personally think that the coaches are just as good at Wesley as they are at those other schools. Whitewaters enrollment is nearly 9000. Wesleys is about 2000. It helps when you have that many potential players to choose from. It gives you an advantage over schools like Wesley. Mount doesn't give scholarships but they do give grants, or something. I don't know if other schools do that but some athletes go free there. I am not detracting from the coaches at Mount and Whitewater but I believe Wesleys coaches are just as good. As coaches they try to do the most with the talent that they are given. Both schools most likely had more talent than Wesley. Thus the defeat in Alliance, that and the Wolverines did not play their best game. The coaches call the plays and it is the players job to execute. Just wanted to say something before we start talking about next season

happy holidays! :D  
Whitewater and the WIAC have a 100-player roster limit.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 25, 2009, 10:06:40 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 25, 2009, 08:29:50 PM
Merry Christmas!

One more thing about Wesley compared to Whitewater and Mount. I personally think that the coaches are just as good at Wesley as they are at those other schools. Whitewaters enrollment is nearly 9000. Wesleys is about 2000. It helps when you have that many potential players to choose from. It gives you an advantage over schools like Wesley. Mount doesn't give scholarships but they do give grants, or something. I don't know if other schools do that but some athletes go free there. I am not detracting from the coaches at Mount and Whitewater but I believe Wesleys coaches are just as good. As coaches they try to do the most with the talent that they are given. Both schools most likely had more talent than Wesley. Thus the defeat in Alliance, that and the Wolverines did not play their best game. The coaches call the plays and it is the players job to execute. Just wanted to say something before we start talking about next season

happy holidays! :D  

Don't know for sure, but I would venture to bet that Wesley has "grants" for their students also, as do a majority of the private schools in DIII.

EDIT:
From the Wesley College Website (http://www.wesley.edu/index.cfm?fuseaction=admissions.financialaid):

QuoteWesley College participates in Federal and state financial aid programs.  The College also offers a number of institutional grants and scholarships to eligible applicants.  To find out if you qualify, visit our Financial Aid Calculator.

Most forms of financial aid can be divided into two categories: Federal and institutional, although there are others (see below). Typically, grants and scholarships do not need to be repaid by the applicant...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 26, 2009, 05:30:35 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 25, 2009, 08:29:50 PM
Whitewaters enrollment is nearly 9000. Wesleys is about 2000. It helps when you have that many potential players to choose from.

This isn't high school. Kids on the football team are at Whitewater because they were recruited to Whitewater, not because coaches hung signs up in the dorms and held an open tryout.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 26, 2009, 06:28:21 PM
School can recruit and i realize that but some D3 schools do have tryouts. All I am saying is that when you have more students willing to go tryout for a sport you tend to have more talent to choose from. I think that when you have a significantly higher enrollment than your opposition you have an advantage. Because people will try to walk on at every school and at every sport. So with a higher enrollment, the more potential players (walk ons etc) you have, thus giving you more potential talent than a school with a smaller enrollment. And walk ons do make a difference. That's just what I believe though
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 26, 2009, 08:05:16 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 26, 2009, 06:28:21 PM
School can recruit and i realize that but some D3 schools do have tryouts. All I am saying is that when you have more students willing to go tryout for a sport you tend to have more talent to choose from. I think that when you have a significantly higher enrollment than your opposition you have an advantage. Because people will try to walk on at every school and at every sport. So with a higher enrollment, the more potential players (walk ons etc) you have, thus giving you more potential talent than a school with a smaller enrollment. And walk ons do make a difference. That's just what I believe though

I doubt that is a contributing factor at UWW.  I would say that their success has probably lessened the number of Walk-Ons that they have.  If someone is going to walk on, they surely hope to earn some playing time.  And if they weren't recruited, they would probably walk on at a lower-profile school, specifically one that doesn't have roster limits, to increase their chances of making the team and not getting cut.

Keep throwing theories out there though, because there are many days till the beginning of next season and not much to talk about.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 26, 2009, 08:18:42 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 26, 2009, 06:28:21 PM
School can recruit and i realize that but some D3 schools do have tryouts. All I am saying is that when you have more students willing to go tryout for a sport you tend to have more talent to choose from. I think that when you have a significantly higher enrollment than your opposition you have an advantage. Because people will try to walk on at every school and at every sport. So with a higher enrollment, the more potential players (walk ons etc) you have, thus giving you more potential talent than a school with a smaller enrollment. And walk ons do make a difference. That's just what I believe though

That's three leaps of faith that you are taking there, each relying on the previous one. Too many assumptions without any facts.

What coach is going to take a chance on a kid they haven't seen any tape on and haven't recruited, who doesn't even start camp until orientation begins, a week and a half or so after everyone else has, when you only have 100 roster spots?

This isn't the way intercollegiate athletics works.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 26, 2009, 08:27:48 PM
waterboy, i like your enthusiasm for wesley, but one thing for sure is that the coaching is not on the same level.  after talking to numerous mount fans after the game, many felt that wesley had as much or more talent on the field.  what was the difference, one coach changed his stagnant offense, helped having shorts on the field, the other one did not.  after watching wesley with some extremely talented teams the last 6 years that seems to be the recurring theme when they get beat.  there was an improvement this year in that the defense stepped up and did not allow it to become a blowout.  the offense was stagnant the last 2 games, weather having something to do with the hopkins game.  both hopkins and mount took away what wesley did well and there was no change in the game plan.  as far as the student totals, surely 9000 is > 2000 so it would seem that UWWW has more potential players, but the unlimited roster vs. the 100 man likely negates that.  wesley is one of the top programs in d3, just not one of the top 2.  have a happy holiday season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 26, 2009, 08:49:39 PM
So Wesley has no roster limits, is a Private-Methodist College who gives grants and has an enrollment around 2,300.

Mount Union has no roster limits, is a Private-Methodist College who gives grants and has an enrollment around 2,300.

What is the difference then thewaterboy?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 26, 2009, 09:12:16 PM
Pat
I understand what you're trying to say but walk ons really do matter and coaches can take chances on those kinds of players. Take LB Cody Grimm for example. He walked on at Virginia Tech. He led the nation in forced fumbles. All I am saying is that more enrollment CAN cause more walk ons, and the more walk ons you have the better the odds at getting that impact player. So,I have the theory that enrollment matters and i'm going to stick to it. :)
Wesleydad
I agree that Wesley did have more talent than Mount but some of that talent did not execute. Mcsweeny made some very very bad passes. Also, I heard from a reliable source that the tapes that were given had the opposing team running different offenses than that of Wesley which runs primarily with a TE in the package. That made it hard for Wesley to determine what to run on offense. With Shorts in the wildcat, I guess it was a play Wesley had not seen before with Shorts lined up at QB. So, I think if the coaches aren't as good as those from Mount and UWW they aren't far behind.
Kirasdad
I simply stated that Mount gave grants and I wasn't sure if it was something other d3 schools did. I don't really understand what you are asking me.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 26, 2009, 09:16:38 PM
Walk-ons at scholarship schools -- like everything -- are a different animal, and I'm sure you know that.

Quote from: thewaterboy on December 26, 2009, 09:12:16 PM
Also, I heard from a reliable source that the tapes that were given had the opposing team running different offenses than that of Wesley which runs primarily with a TE in the package.

I don't really know what you're getting at here, but so you know, the game videos which are exchanged between playoff opponents are determined by NCAA rule. There's no latitude for the schools to game the system by picking and choosing.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 26, 2009, 09:35:14 PM
Pat

I had just heard that Wesley recieved tapes where the team opposing Mount ran a dissimilar offense than that of the Wolverines. I imagine it made it harder to determine what to run in the same packages that Wesley had used all year. Hope that clears it up. Happy Holidays!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 26, 2009, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 26, 2009, 09:12:16 PM
Also, I heard from a reliable source that the tapes that were given had the opposing team running different offenses than that of Wesley which runs primarily with a TE in the package. That made it hard for Wesley to determine what to run on offense. With Shorts in the wildcat, I guess it was a play Wesley had not seen before with Shorts lined up at QB. So, I think if the coaches aren't as good as those from Mount and UWW they aren't far behind.

Wesley's coach was quoted after the game as saying that they DID see Mount Union in the Wildcat offense.  The only difference was that Mount Union ran Shorts to the weak side, which was something that they hadn't seen in the tapes.  If a coach can't adjust to that, then that may be the issue right there.

Also, Pat is right.  The NCAA determines which tapes are exchanged, so it wasn't as if Mount Union gave Wesley certain games where MUC's opponents ran a different offense than Wesley on purpose.  It is up to the coaches to watch the films available and get from it what they can.  Also, anyone who has DirectTV sports package could have seen ALL Mount Union's home games as Sports Time Ohio is included in that package.

Sounds like you are just making excuses, rather than looking for ways for Wesley to improve.  I have nothing for respect for Wesley and the Football program and hope, for their sake, that they don't share the same opinions as you do on these issues.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 26, 2009, 10:10:30 PM
Kirasdad

I am by no means making excuses. Mount threw something new at the Wolverines and they couldn't defend it. Plain and simple. Also I did not accuse Mount of giving Wesley those tapes. It was just the way the pieces fell. All I was saying is that it would be harder to make a gameplan when you aren't 100 percent sure of how your opponent will play on the defense. Especially against a great team like Mount. Once again I did not say anything about Mount purposely giving Wesley tapes that did not have the same offenses. To me Wesley lost because they did not execute when they needed to and mount did. Sorry for misleading you and happy holidays.  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 29, 2009, 10:26:33 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 26, 2009, 05:30:35 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 25, 2009, 08:29:50 PM
Whitewaters enrollment is nearly 9000. Wesleys is about 2000. It helps when you have that many potential players to choose from.

This isn't high school. Kids on the football team are at Whitewater because they were recruited to Whitewater, not because coaches hung signs up in the dorms and held an open tryout.

As a former WIAC coach, I can say this... Every member of those teams are recruited to play football. Some of the recruited members get cut to make the 100 roster limit. The WIAC recruits have this choice to make, either travel to Minnesota and play for the NSIC (Division II) or play at home for a damn good WIAC team.

The lack of a Division II option in the State of Wisconsin aids them in recruiting. Whitewater, with their proximity to Millwaukee might have a better chance at getting some better skill positions kids. They all have great (fantastic) facilities as proven by the number of hosted NFL camps now and in the past.

In all, I think that their decision to go Division III was the right one financially for the system. You can spend money on facilities rather than funding scholarships. Whitewater has a lot of support financially on the side which helps with the "perk"s.

I say good for them.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on January 11, 2010, 10:09:57 PM
Any word on teams in the ACFC leaving for another one? They are supposed to do that soon, correct?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 11, 2010, 10:29:21 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on January 11, 2010, 10:09:57 PM
Any word on teams in the ACFC leaving for another one? They are supposed to do that soon, correct?

Yes, Frostburg and Salisbury are leaving for the E8 in 2010.

This just holds the E8 Pool A bid for those 2 years.

When Buffalo State arrives in the E8 in 2012, then Frostburg and Salisbury can move to another conference if they and the E8 wish.

The E8 needs four core members and 3 affiliates to remain as a Pool A conference.  It looks like the E8 has preserved its Pool A status at least until 2014.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on January 12, 2010, 12:45:04 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 11, 2010, 10:29:21 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on January 11, 2010, 10:09:57 PM
Any word on teams in the ACFC leaving for another one? They are supposed to do that soon, correct?

Yes, Frostburg and Salisbury are leaving for the E8 in 2010.

This just holds the E8 Pool A bid for those 2 years.

When Buffalo State arrives in the E8 in 2012, then Frostburg and Salisbury can move to another conference if they and the E8 wish.

The E8 needs four core members and 3 affiliates to remain as a Pool A conference.  It looks like the E8 has preserved its Pool A status at least until 2014.

Ralph - I think FSU and SU leave AFTER 2010 season ???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 12, 2010, 06:49:34 PM
E8 adding Buffalo State press release

(http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/ncaahome?WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2010/division+iii/buffalo+state+football+moving+to+empire+8+in+2012+-+01-11-10+ncaa+news)

QuoteBuffalo State football moving to Empire 8 in 2012


Jan 11, 2010 9:56:44 AM

The NCAA News

Buffalo State will join the Empire 8 in 2012 as the league's fourth affiliate member in football.

The addition will boost the league's membership for football to nine members. Two other affiliate members, Frostburg State and Salisbury, will begin play in the Empire 8 this fall.
...

The error must be in the NCAA press release.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on January 12, 2010, 10:34:16 PM
So does this mean the beginning of the end for the ACFC? Or are there teams coming into it? Also where does Wesley fall? I have heard that they plan on potentially going independent.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on January 15, 2010, 08:23:05 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on January 12, 2010, 10:34:16 PM
So does this mean the beginning of the end for the ACFC? Or are there teams coming into it? Also where does Wesley fall? I have heard that they plan on potentially going independent.

Wesley is basically an Independent in the ACFC. Come north to the NJAC, I'm sure we can work it out and and build up the East again.  Wesley is an Eastern Team. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: RedDevil4Life on February 12, 2010, 07:35:55 AM
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on February 22, 2010, 09:45:06 PM
Well rumor has it that Wesley will open up at Capital to start the 2010 campaign.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on February 26, 2010, 04:13:26 PM
Huntingdon has posted their 2010 schedule (http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football/schedule_and_scores). Looks like it's going to be a tough one, especially with 4 home, 6 away.

9/4     Maryville
9/11   @ Louisiana College
9/18   @ Faulkner
9/25   Birmingham-Southern
10/2   Wesley
10/9   @ Millsaps
10/16 @ Salisbury
10/23 @ Webber International
10/30 Trinity
11/6   @ LaGrange
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2010, 06:20:20 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 26, 2010, 04:13:26 PM
Huntingdon has posted their 2010 schedule (http://www.huntingdon.edu/athletics/mens_athletics/football/schedule_and_scores). Looks like it's going to be a tough one, especially with 4 home, 6 away.

9/4     Maryville
9/11   @ Louisiana College
9/18   @ Faulkner
9/25   Birmingham-Southern
10/2   Wesley
10/9   @ Millsaps
10/16 @ Salisbury
10/23 @ Webber International
10/30 Trinity
11/6   @ LaGrange
Great schedule.  That schedule can earn you an at-large bid.  Eight in-region games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on March 16, 2010, 03:02:40 PM
waterboy, it doesn't look like a rumor if you go to the Cap website listing game one versus Wesley at Cap on Sept 11.  looks like I may have my first road trip of the season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 16, 2010, 11:55:13 PM
To bad LaGrange backed out of this years game!!! Perliminary schedule I saw has only three home games with road games at CNU,Capital,Huntington and Salisbury. So far only 9 games
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on March 20, 2010, 02:27:25 PM
Alabama hires Huntingdon assistant (http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20100320/SPORTS0401/3200351/1002/sports/COLLEGE-FOOTBALL-Alabama-hires-Huntingdon-assistant)

Good luck to Coach Ansley on this big move. I'm sure he will do well there and will be missed at HC. Most of Huntingdon's staff has been together here for a while now. I'm kind of surprised there haven't been more hired away with the great job they have done building this program.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on May 08, 2010, 04:26:36 PM
wesley schedule finally out, only 3 home games.  trips to cnu, capital, huntingdon, kean, salisbury, frostburg, and concordia in north carolina.  home games with del val, apprentice, and southern virginia.  at least they play 7 (8) d3 teams if apprentice counts. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 08, 2010, 04:50:30 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on May 08, 2010, 04:26:36 PM
wesley schedule finally out, only 3 home games.  trips to cnu, capital, huntingdon, kean, salisbury, frostburg, and concordia in north carolina.  home games with del val, apprentice, and southern virginia.  at least they play 7 (8) d3 teams if apprentice counts. 
Apprentice does not count towards Regional Rankings.

I don't find the news release.

Who is Concordia of North Carolina?

I count 6 in-region games.  I think that the committee gets a fair understanding of Wesley from those 6.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 08, 2010, 06:27:37 PM
I think there's a school named Concord in N.C.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on May 08, 2010, 08:36:34 PM
Concord University is in West Virginia, not far from the NC and VA borders.  The Concord Lions are a D2 team in the WVIAC. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on May 08, 2010, 08:52:14 PM
Concordia University is in Portland Oregon and the Cavaliers are NAIA.  There is also Concord College which is in Moorehead, Minnesota, the Cobbers are a D3 team in the MIAC.  I don't know which on Wesley is playing...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 08, 2010, 09:04:24 PM
Quote from: Gargantuan Gull on May 08, 2010, 08:36:34 PM
Concord University is in West Virginia, not far from the NC and VA borders.  The Concord Lions are a D2 team in the WVIAC. 

No Wesley Delaware on the Concord 2010 schedule (http://www.cumountainlions.com/schedule.aspx?path=football&).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on May 08, 2010, 09:34:40 PM
Wesley is not on the Concordia Cobber (D3 MIAC) schedule

http://www.cord.edu/dept/sports/fall/fb/10schedule.php

The Concordia Cavaliers (NAIA) do not have a football team...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 08, 2010, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: Gargantuan Gull on May 08, 2010, 08:52:14 PM
Concordia University is in Portland Oregon and the Cavaliers are NAIA.  There is also Concord College which is in Moorehead, Minnesota, the Cobbers are a D3 team in the MIAC.  I don't know which on Wesley is playing...

The one in Moorhead is a Concordia.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 08, 2010, 10:07:11 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on May 08, 2010, 04:26:36 PM
wesley schedule finally out, only 3 home games.  trips to cnu, capital, huntingdon, kean, salisbury, frostburg, and concordia in north carolina.  home games with del val, apprentice, and southern virginia.  at least they play 7 (8) d3 teams if apprentice counts. 

Anyone have a copy of this? Frostburg State and Capital each think they're playing Wesley on Sept. 11.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 08, 2010, 10:08:56 PM
Concordia-Selma (http://www.concordiaselma.edu/), an unaffiliated independent, doesn't have its 2010 schedule up.

(Selma AL is 50 miles west of Montgomery.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on May 08, 2010, 10:22:51 PM
From what I can see Frostburg has Wesley scheduled on Sept. 11th and Capital has Wesley scheduled on Sept. 25th.

http://www.frostburgsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=football&

http://www.capitalcrusaders.net/
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 08, 2010, 11:43:19 PM
OK, well, it was news to Capital when Capital released its schedule originally.

The OAC non-conference schedule is always in Week 1 and Week 2. This is a good break for Capital to move things around.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 09, 2010, 01:30:51 AM
   Concordia Ala. NAIA.  site is neutral to accomodate both schools travel budgets

Schedule will be released when everything is (OFFICIAL)

Capital game was changed from original date after Frostburg St. opted for different date.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on May 09, 2010, 11:14:01 AM
Makes sense. 

Has anyone heard anything about Salisbury's 10th game..looks like they have openings on October 9th and November 6th...

Any idea how the strength of the schedule will be viewed for playoff consideration?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 10, 2010, 11:51:49 AM
The schedule as posted looks pretty good. It will depend on how those teams perform in general this season, but if Salisbury's opponents perform up to their recent history it would put Salisbury in a strong spot for a Pool B bid, should Salisbury go 8-1. At 9-0, a lock.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on May 11, 2010, 07:01:20 PM
Pat,

Are you saying Salisbury will play a 9 game schedule or do you think that they will pick up a 10th game?

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 12, 2010, 12:34:17 PM
I don't know that, to be honest. I know Salisbury hasn't posted this schedule on its own website, so perhaps there's a chance it will add a 10th game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on May 12, 2010, 06:51:34 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 12, 2010, 12:34:17 PM
I don't know that, to be honest. I know Salisbury hasn't posted this schedule on its own website, so perhaps there's a chance it will add a 10th game.

Great.  Thanks for the info Pat. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on May 13, 2010, 06:29:01 PM
not sure if schedule is official yet, just got it off the program from the wesley golf outing which is usually when it comes out.  I was also surprised by the change in the capital game as I also had seen that it was on sept 11.

Ralph, thanks for the confirmation about apprentice.

Pawesleyfan, hope all is well with you and the family, and also thanks for finding Concordia that Wesley is playing, I couldn't find them.  Won't see you much this year unless you make a trip or 2.  I will be out of town for the delval game and the other 2 games might not get my choice of games if i find another one which is more entertaining.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 13, 2010, 09:49:23 PM
Wesleydad

That schedule is  close to being firm except maybe one game....

I don't know if I will get to Salibury . Maybe Kean ..

Been spending way to much time in Doylerstown emergency room .. Have to wait and see how that works out before planning any extended trips.. Saw Jason for only a second last week at the golf outing. We arrived rather late.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 13, 2010, 09:53:03 PM
Wesley's Larry Beavers signed a free agaent contract with the New Orleans Saints

  http://www.wdsu.com/sports/23547933/detail.html
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on May 14, 2010, 10:52:47 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 13, 2010, 09:53:03 PM
Wesley's Larry Beavers signed a free agaent contract with the New Orleans Saints

  http://www.wdsu.com/sports/23547933/detail.html

Congrats to Larry Beavers!, Hope he makes it with the Saints. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on May 14, 2010, 10:49:48 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on May 14, 2010, 10:52:47 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 13, 2010, 09:53:03 PM
Wesley's Larry Beavers signed a free agaent contract with the New Orleans Saints

  http://www.wdsu.com/sports/23547933/detail.html

Congrats to Larry Beavers!, Hope he makes it with the Saints. :)

Sure you guys in Ohio can't talk Cecil into signing with them too?  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on May 15, 2010, 07:14:43 AM
Quote from: Conrad on May 14, 2010, 10:49:48 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on May 14, 2010, 10:52:47 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 13, 2010, 09:53:03 PM
Wesley's Larry Beavers signed a free agaent contract with the New Orleans Saints

  http://www.wdsu.com/sports/23547933/detail.html

Congrats to Larry Beavers!, Hope he makes it with the Saints. :)

Sure you guys in Ohio can't talk Cecil into signing with them too?  :D

Conrad,

That could happen, but Cecil will play the Raiders this fall and use up his medical eligibility. He may see Wesley again in the playoffs. Word here is that Cecil could have available for the NFL, but was advised to play another year. Several teams have shown interest and he is  likely to be drafted next April!  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on May 15, 2010, 10:15:53 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on May 15, 2010, 07:14:43 AM
Quote from: Conrad on May 14, 2010, 10:49:48 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on May 14, 2010, 10:52:47 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 13, 2010, 09:53:03 PM
Wesley's Larry Beavers signed a free agaent contract with the New Orleans Saints

  http://www.wdsu.com/sports/23547933/detail.html

Congrats to Larry Beavers!, Hope he makes it with the Saints. :)

Sure you guys in Ohio can't talk Cecil into signing with them too?  :D

Conrad,

That could happen, but Cecil will play the Raiders this fall and use up his medical eligibility. He may see Wesley again in the playoffs. Word here is that Cecil could have available for the NFL, but was advised to play another year. Several teams have shown interest and he is  likely to be drafted next April!  :)
I'm sure he'll get a lot of interest. Pierre's successes can't hurt him either. We are headed to Columbus in September to play Capital. What do you hear about them besides the new coach?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on May 15, 2010, 11:20:06 PM
Quote from: Conrad on May 15, 2010, 10:15:53 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on May 15, 2010, 07:14:43 AM
Quote from: Conrad on May 14, 2010, 10:49:48 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on May 14, 2010, 10:52:47 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 13, 2010, 09:53:03 PM
Wesley's Larry Beavers signed a free agaent contract with the New Orleans Saints

  http://www.wdsu.com/sports/23547933/detail.html

Congrats to Larry Beavers!, Hope he makes it with the Saints. :)

Sure you guys in Ohio can't talk Cecil into signing with them too?  :D

Conrad,

That could happen, but Cecil will play the Raiders this fall and use up his medical eligibility. He may see Wesley again in the playoffs. Word here is that Cecil could have available for the NFL, but was advised to play another year. Several teams have shown interest and he is  likely to be drafted next April!  :)
I'm sure he'll get a lot of interest. Pierre's successes can't hurt him either. We are headed to Columbus in September to play Capital. What do you hear about them besides the new coach?

Capital has a new HC, but he is the former Offensive coordinator. Coach Sanford will have a new QB due to graduation, so it is difficult to predict how quickly the transition will be made. They were 7-3 last season.

Cap is  usually tough at home, but I hear Wesley expects a strong team back in 2010, so it should be a good game!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on May 18, 2010, 08:50:33 PM
Anyone hear anything about the recruiting classes for Salisbury, Wesley, Frostburg, etc...?  I've heard that Salisbury is pretty happy with the talent level of the recruits that they brought in this year. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on May 23, 2010, 05:17:58 PM
I know this is a football board, but I didn't see a board for Lacrosse so I figured I'd post it here.  Salisbury's women's lacrosse team just won the NCAA DIII national championship with a 7-6 win over Hamilton. 

The men's lacrosse also won in the NCAA DIII semi-finals, defeating #1 ranked Stevenson 14-13 in OT. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 05, 2010, 01:30:46 PM
Larry Beavers in Saints camp notes..

http://www.neworleanssaints.com/news-and-events/article-1/Saints-2010-Minicamp-Day-One-Recap/fdc618e4-f9b2-4f1e-8330-8d972d9f31b8
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 08, 2010, 05:58:27 PM
 Interesting developement at Salisbury St. for football as well as baseball.  I wonder if the Offensive philosophy will change.

http://www.delmarvanow.com/article/20100606/SPORTS/6060342/Fleetwood-back-SU-coach-returning-to-Cambridge-SD
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on June 10, 2010, 06:59:47 PM
Coach Fleetwood's son is the offensive coordinator for Salisbury and has been for a little while at least, so I don't think a whole lot will change, unless he leaves too.  Coach Fleetwood is a good coach and will be missed by the Salisbury Football program.  I know that the high school coaching community in Maryland thinks very highly of Coach Fleetwood.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 10, 2010, 07:13:26 PM
 I have heard wispers that his son may be leaving too, but we have to wait until something official is released from S S U or another school.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on June 10, 2010, 07:33:33 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on June 10, 2010, 07:13:26 PM
I have heard wispers that his son may be leaving too, but we have to wait until something official is released from S S U or another school.

I guess time will tell.  Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on June 15, 2010, 09:37:41 PM
The Consensus Draft Services (CDS) came out with their preseason 1st and 2nd team D3 All American Teams.  2 Wesley players on the team.  Here is the link http://cdsdraft.com/aa.php?team=Division%20III

Here is the list in case the link doesn't work:

2010 CDS Division III Preseason All-American Teams
FIRST TEAM
OFFENSE
QB Donald McKillop, 5'11", 216, Middlebury
WR Jared Jenkins, 6'3", 211, Wisconsin-Stevens Point
WR Cecil Shorts III, 6'1", 195, Mount Union
RB Justin Fuller, 6'0", 216, Bridgewater State
RB Johrone Bunch, 6'0", 190, Mount Ida (Jr.)
TE Sean MCAndrew, 6'3", 250, Wesley
OT Mike Long, 6'2", 270, Delaware Valley
OG Matt Weber, 6'3", 285, Wisconsin-Whitewater
C Josh Ostrue, 6'4", 305, St. Thomas (MN)
OG Anthony Moore, 5'10", 280, N.C. Wesleyan
OT Ben Hume, 6'4", 285, Centre (Jr.)
K Bradley Marchese, John Carroll (So.)
KR Fritz Waldvogel, St. Thomas (MN) (Jr.)
DEFENSE
DE Eddie Vallery, 6'2", 220, Wittenberg
DT Robert Champion, 6'1", 292, North Central (IL)
DT Paul Nishizaki, 5'11", 280, Linfield
DE Matt Lunder, 6'2', 250, Wisconsin-Stevens Point
LB Kyle Gesswin, 6'2", 228, Delaware Valley
LB Kyle McGivney, 6'2", 222, Luther
LB Tony Baratti, 5'11", 232, Beloit
LB Tyler Russell, 6'1", 222, Worcester State
DB Craig Sedunov, 6'0", 190, Washington & Jefferson
DB Darnell Williams, 6'2", 222, Wisconsin Lutheran
DB Bill Doody, 6'2", 215, Hampden-Sydney
DB Kurt Reder, 5'9", 170, Ripon
P Tyler Funk, Carthage (Jr.)
PR Fritz Waldvogel, St. Thomas (MN) (Jr.)
SECOND TEAM
OFFENSE
QB Alex Tanney, 6'3", 203, Monmouth (IL)
WR Daniel Passafiume, 5'9", 175, Hanover (Jr.)
WR Michael Zweifel, 6'0", 190, Dubuque
RB Levell Coppage, 5'7", 180, Wisconsin-Whitewater (Jr.)
RB Ben Wartman, 6'1", 208, St. Thomas (MN)
TE Josh Pronschinske, 6'5", 230, Augsburg
OT Koby Parker, 6'3, 290, Hardin Simmons
OG Chase Estepp, 6'2", 280, Manchester
C Dustin Davis, 6'2", 285, Mary Hardin-Baylor
OG Robbie Ustruck, 6'2", 280, Wisconsin-Whitewater
OT Randy Gerber, 6'4", 330, Cal Lutheran
K Garrett Biel, Trinity (TX) (So.)
KR John Kavanagh, Washington & Lee (Jr.)
DEFENSE
DE Eric Hedin, 6'6", 245, Linfield
DT Zach Bleiler, 6'5", 272, Lebanon Valley
DT Adam Kattoua, 6'0", 270, Wittenberg
DE William Riggenbach, 6'1", 230, Hampden-Sydney
LB/DE Chris Dalecki, 6'1", 225, Husson (Jr.)
LB Sam Kershaw, 6'0", 230, Mount Union
LB Tyler Vlasak, 5'11", 230, Puget Sound
LB Will Hawkins, 6'2", 230, Millsaps
DB Jordan Nelson, 5'9", 170, Guilford
DB Nate Heard, 6'0", 180, Wisconsin-Oshkosh
DB Aaron Benson, 5'10", 197, Wesley
DB Brandon Brown, 5'9", 190, Wasington in St. Louis
P Jared Jenkins, Wisconsin-Stevens Point
PR Jordan Rideaux, Louisiana College
Note: All players are seniors unless otherwise noted.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on June 21, 2010, 01:52:39 PM
Wesleydad,

What are you hearing from Wesley for this fall? Did have have a good recruiting year? The polls so far think they are one of the top teams! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on June 22, 2010, 06:49:00 PM
Raider 68, do not hear much since I no longer have my son as a connection since he finally graduated in december.  They should be good as they return enough good players from last year.  Are they good enough to make the next step, not sure about that?  There were issues that showed up in the mount game last year that I am not sure can be fixed.  Skunksidekick has some good opinions about those issues, check with him.  The schedule is good with games against CNU, Del Val, ranked 8th in pre USA pool, Cap from your conference, Huntington - ranked 23, and Salisbury, so they will be able to find out throughout the year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on June 22, 2010, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on June 22, 2010, 06:49:00 PM
Raider 68, do not hear much since I no longer have my son as a connection since he finally graduated in december.  They should be good as they return enough good players from last year.  Are they good enough to make the next step, not sure about that?  There were issues that showed up in the mount game last year that I am not sure can be fixed.  Skunksidekick has some good opinions about those issues, check with him.  The schedule is good with games against CNU, Del Val, ranked 8th in pre USA pool, Cap from your conference, Huntington - ranked 23, and Salisbury, so they will be able to find out throughout the year.


wesleydad,

Thanks for the info, please keep us up to speed during the course this fall season. Hope all is well! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on June 24, 2010, 09:14:20 PM
Salisbury sports moving up the ladder...

Salisbury University Athletic News 
June 23, 2010


DALLAS – On Wednesday, the Salisbury University athletics program was recognized by the National Association of College Directors of Athletics (NACDA) as one of the best programs in the country, finishing the 2009-10 season ranked ninth in the Learfield Sports Directors' Cup Division III Final Standings.

SU finds itself in familiar territory with the top 10 ranking. The Sea Gulls were ranked No. 8 at the conclusion of the fall season after the Salisbury University women's field hockey team captured the program's fifth national championship and two other teams (men's soccer, volleyball) advanced to the NCAA tournament.

In the spring, the women's lacrosse team added to Salisbury's point totals by capturing the program's first-ever national title. Additionally, the trio of seniors Delannie Spriggs (Owings, Md.), Cory Beebe (Medina, Ohio) and Brandon Fugett (Randallstown, Md.) placed second overall at the NCAA Division III Track & Field Championships. Three other Sea Gull teams (baseball, men's lacrosse, softball) also advanced to the NCAA tournament, giving Salisbury a grand total of 673.25 points in the final standings. 

This year's No. 9 ranking marks Salisbury's highest finish in Directors' Cup standings. Previously, SU's highest ranking was 11th at the end of the 2004-05 season. 310 Division III teams earned points in this year's standings.

The Learfield Sports Directors' Cup was developed as a joint effort between the National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics and USA Today. Points are awarded based on each institution's finish in up to 18 sports -- nine women's and nine men's.

Also see:

Learfield Sports Directors' Cup Final Standings

Previous Salisbury University Directors' Cup Ranks

Year       Final Place
1995-96: 51st
1996-97: 25th
1997-98: 45th
1998-99: 34th
1999-00: 18th
2000-01: 15th
2001-02: 54th
2002-03: 18th
2003-04: 12th
2004-05: 11th
2005-06: 24th
2006-07: 36th
2007-08: 23rd
2008-09: 23rd
2009-10: 9th
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on June 24, 2010, 09:15:10 PM
Here's the link:
Link (http://www.suseagulls.com/admin/content/edit/DALLAS%20%2013%20On%20Wednesday,%20the%20Salisbury%20University%20athletics%20program%20was%20recognized%20by%20the%20National%20Association%20of%20College%20Directors%20of%20Athletics%20(NACDA)%20as%20one%20of%20the%20best%20programs%20in%20the%20country,%20finishing%20the%202009-10%20season%20ranked%20ninth%20in%20the%20Learfield%20Sports%20Directors%2019%20Cup%20Division%20III%20Final%20Standings.)



Modified for formatting.  It may not work. Thank you for posting the article.  -- Ralph Turner

Here is the link to the NACDA web site (http://www.nacda.com/)


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on June 24, 2010, 09:17:21 PM
Sorry the link doesn't work.  I can't modify or delete the message...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on June 24, 2010, 09:42:26 PM
Because you posted a link through the admin side of SU's website- thats why it dont work.  I have the same system with Apprentice and ACFC
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on June 28, 2010, 01:25:03 PM
Per Wesleydad's reference.......until Wesley changes their head coach...errrr......offensive coordinator.....errrr....offensive philosophy.....in my opinion they are destined for a lot more of "can't win the big game because the offense tanks when it counts."  (JUMP PASS??????)   ;)

It is definitely not a talent issue.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on June 29, 2010, 11:05:50 AM
just read the press release announcing the Tom Smith, the D coord at Wesley has left the program to persue other opportunities.  From what I know he was a pretty important part of the coaching staff and I believe made the d calls during the game.  It will be interesting to see how his leaving changes the defense.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on June 29, 2010, 11:26:07 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on June 29, 2010, 11:05:50 AM
just read the press release announcing the Tom Smith, the D coord at Wesley has left the program to persue other opportunities.  From what I know he was a pretty important part of the coaching staff and I believe made the d calls during the game.  It will be interesting to see how his leaving changes the defense.

Not a good sign 6 weeks from summer camp! :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on June 30, 2010, 06:33:45 PM
After checking with Jason, he told me that Coach Drass makes all the d calls during the game and the Coach Smith was the d-line coach.  he was replaced by someone with nfl, canadian, and arena football playing experience.  he also coached at a d2 school last year.  You would figure that since he played d-line he should be able to bring some tricks to the table.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on July 01, 2010, 10:28:52 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on June 30, 2010, 06:33:45 PM
After checking with Jason, he told me that Coach Drass makes all the d calls during the game and the Coach Smith was the d-line coach.  he was replaced by someone with nfl, canadian, and arena football playing experience.  he also coached at a d2 school last year.  You would figure that since he played d-line he should be able to bring some tricks to the table.

That is good news then for the Wesley defense!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on July 12, 2010, 11:07:40 PM
Hey all, quick question..... Wesley did pick up a tenth game right? At least thats what Ive heard. Anyone know anything about them?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 12, 2010, 11:19:09 PM
 Waterboy

  Last I heard they had a tenth scheduled but were just waiting
to make it official.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on July 16, 2010, 08:45:05 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on June 29, 2010, 11:05:50 AM
just read the press release announcing the Tom Smith, the D coord at Wesley has left the program to persue other opportunities.  From what I know he was a pretty important part of the coaching staff and I believe made the d calls during the game.  It will be interesting to see how his leaving changes the defense.

Sad to see him go.   Regardless, I think Wesley will still be quite potent this year.  There are some really good players coming back to play as well as some awesome prospects.  It is great to see West make first team offense, McAndrew make second team offense, Benson and Mayes make second team defense this time around.   Time will tell, but after talking with some of the players, the Mount Union game pumped them up for this year, so watch out!

-Ski 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on July 22, 2010, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on July 16, 2010, 08:45:05 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on June 29, 2010, 11:05:50 AM
just read the press release announcing the Tom Smith, the D coord at Wesley has left the program to persue other opportunities.  From what I know he was a pretty important part of the coaching staff and I believe made the d calls during the game.  It will be interesting to see how his leaving changes the defense.

Sad to see him go.   Regardless, I think Wesley will still be quite potent this year.  There are some really good players coming back to play as well as some awesome prospects.  It is great to see West make first team offense, McAndrew make second team offense, Benson and Mayes make second team defense this time around.   Time will tell, but after talking with some of the players, the Mount Union game pumped them up for this year, so watch out!

-Ski 

A key game for Wesley will be Capital away on 9/25. This will tell where the team is at that point. Wesley IMHO will have a another good year, and maybe they will meet Mount again this fall! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on July 22, 2010, 01:15:08 PM
I completely agree.  I sure do hope we meet again.......;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on July 23, 2010, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: Teamski on July 22, 2010, 01:15:08 PM
I completely agree.  I sure do hope we meet again.......;)

-Ski

Who in the conference will challenge Wesley, or not? :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on July 23, 2010, 11:56:45 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on July 23, 2010, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: Teamski on July 22, 2010, 01:15:08 PM
I completely agree.  I sure do hope we meet again.......;)

-Ski

Who in the conference will challenge Wesley, or not? :-\

Probably nobody.  Salisbury will be the usual toughest test for the last time (I believe) in the ACFC.  Essentially, Wesley is an independent once again.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: njlincolnlion on July 24, 2010, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on June 30, 2010, 06:33:45 PM
After checking with Jason, he told me that Coach Drass makes all the d calls during the game and the Coach Smith was the d-line coach.  he was replaced by someone with nfl, canadian, and arena football playing experience.  he also coached at a d2 school last year.  You would figure that since he played d-line he should be able to bring some tricks to the table.

The coach hired by Coach Drass is Coach Leroy Thompson who coached the D-line last season at Lincoln (PA).  Coach Thompson played his college ball at Del State.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on July 24, 2010, 10:34:04 PM
Ahh, good!  It won't be long until he is fitfully employed with summer practice just around the corner.  Thanks for the intel!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 75 bucks on August 03, 2010, 04:57:37 PM
What does Wesley think of coming to Ohio and playing Capital?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 03, 2010, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: 75 bucks on August 03, 2010, 04:57:37 PM
What does Wesley think of coming to Ohio and playing Capital?

  I am sure Coach Drass welcomes the challenge and appreciates Capital scheduling the game. It's an out of region game but it is  a DIII game.
It will give us an idea of how Wesley will fair this season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on August 04, 2010, 07:50:44 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 03, 2010, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: 75 bucks on August 03, 2010, 04:57:37 PM
What does Wesley think of coming to Ohio and playing Capital?

  I am sure Coach Drass welcomes the challenge and appreciates Capital scheduling the game. It's an out of region game but it is  a DIII game.
It will give us an idea of how Wesley will fair this season.

Weskey brings alot of talent back from '09. It will be a very good game in Columbus, but Wesley may have an edge at this point. It could be a 24-21 type game, we'll see! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 05, 2010, 11:22:12 AM
wesley starts out ranked 3rd.  seems fair to me with how they finished last year.  it will be interesting to see if they learned anything from the mount game and can close the gap between them and the top 2.  playing cap and chris newport who are getting votes, and del val who is ranked 10 makes the schedule look good.  salisbury is always important.  does anyone know if they have a 10th game, last time i checked they only had 9.  only 4 weeks until the games start.  time to check out the schedules to plan my trips for the year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on August 05, 2010, 06:15:47 PM
Salisbury is still listed as having 9 games on their website...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: The Forgotten Man on August 06, 2010, 10:47:00 AM
Go LaGrange Panthers!

Won't be with you except in spirit, but y'all will always have a special place in my heart. It was a great four years watching the founding team develop, win a conference championship, and bond as friends.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on August 06, 2010, 07:36:20 PM
Salisbury has posted their 2010 roster including incoming freshman.  Some talented freshman on the way in and it looks like they addressed some areas of concern.   ;) Here's the link:

http://www.suseagulls.com/sports/fball/2010-11/roster
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 07, 2010, 11:18:48 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 05, 2010, 11:22:12 AM
wesley starts out ranked 3rd.  seems fair to me with how they finished last year.  it will be interesting to see if they learned anything from the mount game and can close the gap between them and the top 2.  playing cap and chris newport who are getting votes, and del val who is ranked 10 makes the schedule look good.  salisbury is always important.  does anyone know if they have a 10th game, last time i checked they only had 9.  only 4 weeks until the games start.  time to check out the schedules to plan my trips for the year.

Outstanding!  I agree that #3 is fitting, considering that Wesley held MU to it's lowest scoring game of the season.  This is going to be a great year!  I'll see you at the games!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on August 08, 2010, 03:44:04 PM
Respectfully disagree.If the first game of the year were played between Wesley and LINFIELD - at either field - the 3rd ranked tram at the end of 2009 would win it. It would be close and a great contest. If the top four ranked teams get to the semis again it would be an honor to play the Wesley program. Let those other purple monsters knock each other out of a - yawn - sixth straight bowl game.
On vacation from SoCal and went up to Dover just to see the Wesley campus - and to see if there was any sprint or tossing activity on a Saturday evening = nope.
Question: since I wound up over at the Downs, I was wondering if it was off-limits to the team during the fall? The close proximity must be so tempting. The age is 21 though.
BTW...went by Salisbury as well = no activity there either.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 08, 2010, 06:06:56 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on August 08, 2010, 03:44:04 PM
Respectfully disagree.If the first game of the year were played between Wesley and LINFIELD - at either field - the 3rd ranked tram at the end of 2009 would win it. It would be close and a great contest. If the top four ranked teams get to the semis again it would be an honor to play the Wesley program. Let those other purple monsters knock each other out of a - yawn - sixth straight bowl game.
On vacation from SoCal and went up to Dover just to see the Wesley campus - and to see if there was any sprint or tossing activity on a Saturday evening = nope.
Question: since I wound up over at the Downs, I was wondering if it was off-limits to the team during the fall? The close proximity must be so tempting. The age is 21 though.
BTW...went by Salisbury as well = no activity there either.

I quess we will have to agree to disagree, hehehehehe.  Anyways, Coach Drass keeps a very tight leash on the players.  They just don't have the time to get into trouble for the most part.  I know during pre-season practice, they have the players covered from the time they get up to the time they hit the sheets.  I was quite impressed when I witnessed it myself.  I would love to see a Linfield/Wesley game.  That would definately sort things out.

Next time you drop by, give me a heads-up.  I only live two blocks away from the school.  We can discuss our differences over some brats.  :)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 08, 2010, 06:43:41 PM
D.O.C.

Things are probably a little quiet around Wesley's campus. One of the girls soccer players was hit by a van and killed in front of the school two weeks ago.


As far as the players and the Casino... I have been there more than my share and I don't remember seeing any players there over the 14 yrs I have been going to Welsey games.


And lastly . We won't find out until the two teams play who would win....


Ski

Looks like a nine game schedule... The Concordia game is off... Hartwick was approached with the open date but once again it seems they have  declined...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on August 08, 2010, 07:48:48 PM
Agreed..."play it - don't say it".

That's a tragedy about the student killed.

Thanks for the invite. Playyoffs?   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 08, 2010, 08:35:49 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 08, 2010, 06:43:41 PM

Ski

Looks like a nine game schedule... The Concordia game is off... Hartwick was approached with the open date but once again it seems they have  declined...

That sux.  Wesley just can't seem to get a break.  Hartwick cracks me up. deja vu....  At least Wesley has some good OWP in the schedule this year.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 08, 2010, 08:38:57 PM
 I guess Hartwick needs two week to get ready for Mt Ida.. Why put an open date up if you don't want to play!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on August 08, 2010, 09:23:52 PM
Well now that Concordia is off. Looks like every game counts now but I am very excited for Sept 4. Got a lot of great starters coming back.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 08, 2010, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on August 08, 2010, 09:23:52 PM
Well now that Concordia is off. Looks like every game counts now but I am very excited for Sept 4. Got a lot of great starters coming back.

Now that would of been a hoot if Wesley played Concordia.  I was raised only 3 blocks from the old Concordia campus in Milwaukee (if I have the right Concordia)....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 08, 2010, 09:48:43 PM
This was Alabama, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 08, 2010, 10:16:51 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 08, 2010, 09:48:43 PM
This was Alabama, unfortunately.

Hehehehe....thanks for the clarification.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 08, 2010, 10:26:58 PM
Ski

It was going to be played at a neutral site in No or So Carolina but it didn't get done.
I wonder if Hottle will play Wesley in2011 now that Stevenson is joining the MAC as an accosiate member
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 09, 2010, 12:41:38 AM
Stevenson only has two dates to play with.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 09, 2010, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 09, 2010, 12:41:38 AM
Stevenson only has two dates to play with.

Yes Pat I know that I posted that on the MAC board in an answer to Gordon
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 12, 2010, 09:54:45 PM
just say on the recap of the saints game that larry beavers had a KO return for a TD in the 1st half of the game against the pats.  nice job larry, represent d3 and wesley football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 12, 2010, 11:49:23 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 12, 2010, 09:54:45 PM
just say on the recap of the saints game that larry beavers had a KO return for a TD in the 1st half of the game against the pats.  nice job larry, represent d3 and wesley football.

Excellent!  I need to try to find it online!  Thanks for the heads-up!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 12, 2010, 11:53:20 PM
ski

nfl .com and facebook
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 12, 2010, 11:56:07 PM
Yep, I just watched it.  Slick!  That is definately our man!   ;D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on August 14, 2010, 05:04:11 PM
Huntingdon opened camp Thursday with 163 players, 84 newcomers and 79 returning players. I think that is the most returning players we've had.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20100813/SPORTS04/8130317/LOCAL-COLLEGE-FOOTBALL-NOTEBOOK-Huntingdon-opens-preseason-practice
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 21, 2010, 10:30:08 AM
I hit some of the Wesley practices the past couple weeks.  Man, I was impressed with the new recruits! I was also impressed by the new Defensive Line Coach.  Coach Thompson looks the real deal, that is for sure.  I'm sure he will do well this year with Smith leaving for Sussex Tech.  He certainly has a presence on the field.  The defense is going to be nasty and the team is really focused this year.  

McSweeney, McAndrew, Knight, Krout, Wright, and the rest of the offense all looked good out there!

Josh Nevid is back along with Mike Asiedu, Adams, Howard, Mayes, and a ton of others on the Defense.  

I also met Waterboy for the first time.  He's a great kid!

As you can tell, I am pumped about this year! 9 games with some key matches should be enough for another Pool B bid.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 21, 2010, 12:31:25 PM
Ski, too bad they couldnt find a 10th game.  when is their scrimmage?  I will likely take the trip to CNU for game 1, then not sure when i will see them again.  going away the weekend of the delval game, but will catch a later home game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on August 21, 2010, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: Teamski on August 21, 2010, 10:30:08 AM
I hit some of the Wesley practices the past couple weeks.  Man, I was impressed with the new recruits! I was also impressed by the new Defensive Line Coach.  Coach Thompson looks the real deal, that is for sure.  I'm sure he will do well this year with Smith leaving for Sussex Tech.  He certainly has a presence on the field.  The defense is going to be nasty and the team is really focused this year. 

McSweeney, McAndrew, Knight, Krout, Wright, and the rest of the offense all looked good out there!

Josh Nevid is back along with Mike Asiedu, Adams, Howard, Mayes, Adams and a ton of others on the Defense. 

I also met Waterboy for the first time.  He's a great kid!

As you can tell, I am pumped about this year! 9 games with some key matches should be enough for another Pool B bid.

-Ski

Ski,

I was just to ask how Wesley was looking but you answered it well already! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 22, 2010, 09:02:45 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 21, 2010, 12:31:25 PM
Ski, too bad they couldnt find a 10th game.  when is their scrimmage?  I will likely take the trip to CNU for game 1, then not sure when i will see them again.  going away the weekend of the delval game, but will catch a later home game.

You know, I don't know!  I'll have to ask.  With my workload this time around, I am only doing the games and not the practices.  I'll see you there if you make it.  I certainly wish Hartwick would give up a game for once ::).....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 22, 2010, 10:22:02 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 21, 2010, 12:31:25 PM
Ski, too bad they couldnt find a 10th game.  when is their scrimmage?  I will likely take the trip to CNU for game 1, then not sure when i will see them again.  going away the weekend of the delval game, but will catch a later home game.

Tonight I heard that the scrimmage will be against Muhlenberg on Thursday.  It should be a home game.....I don't know the time yet.  I will have to get with the coach to verify the place and time.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 22, 2010, 11:14:40 PM
Ski

I think in the evening
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on August 23, 2010, 11:16:50 AM
Let me know scrimmage time if you get it,,we have practice at 5:00 pm on thursday,,could come if they do a morning .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 23, 2010, 04:58:16 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on August 23, 2010, 11:16:50 AM
Let me know scrimmage time if you get it,,we have practice at 5:00 pm on thursday,,could come if they do a morning .

The scrimmage is Thursday @ 6PM at Wesley.  I'm going to be there around 5PM to set up the cameras.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 24, 2010, 06:51:50 PM
ski, not going to make the scrimmage.  i had to chose between our back to school happy hour(s) or fight the traffic and drive to dover and be lucky to get there by 6.  i am chosing the aforementioned hh.  fill us in on what you see.  the mules should be a good barometer as to where the team is at this point.  I will likely see you in CNU in a week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on August 24, 2010, 08:41:35 PM
Thanks Teamski,,I will be working,,we open on friday,,be there during the season as much as possible
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 24, 2010, 09:16:53 PM
I'll let you guys know how it went!  It should be a great scrimmage.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 27, 2010, 01:07:06 AM
Well, the Wesley-Muhlenberg scrimmage went off without a hitch in front of a surprisingly large crowd. 1 on 1's, 7 on 7's, short and long situations were done at the front end.  About 3 1/2 quarters of scrimmaging was played with Wesley leading Muhlenberg 21-0.  14 of those points, by the way, were defensive interception returns.

So, a lot of cobwebs on both sides of the ball. I was saying the same thing from the Kean scrimmage last year!  I'm sure a lot of film will be shown this next week with lessons for all.

 Muhlenberg looks like they should do well this year.  They weren't pushovers. They seem to have a good QB finding the seams out there.

Anyways, onto Christopher Newport next week!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 27, 2010, 10:15:06 AM
thanks for the update.  offense always behind d at this point.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 30, 2010, 08:15:31 PM
Well, I'm getting excited about Wesley's first game at Christopher Newport on Saturday.  I haven't been there yet.  It should be a really good test for the team.  The weather should be good this time around without a hurricane threatening like it did last time the team headed down there!  :D

-Ski
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Post by: Teamski on August 30, 2010, 08:23:29 PM
...........Although we should see a swing and a miss by Earl on Friday.... :o

-Ski
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Post by: Hampton U SID on August 30, 2010, 08:28:08 PM
Quote from: Teamski on August 30, 2010, 08:23:29 PM
...........Although we should see a swing and a miss by Earl on Friday.... :o

-Ski

I sure as heck hope a swing and miss down here by Earl.  Flying to Elmira, NY on Friday afternoon for our game Saturday morning
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 31, 2010, 06:16:36 PM
Ski, i agree, glad that the hurricane is missing this time.  I am making the trip and will hopefully find you on Saturday.  Just got a message from CNU85 and he gave me some info on tailgating and parking.  Lots open at 10 for gating, and if anyone is making the trip there is a bar across the street called Schooners that can be hit if some would like.  I think that the wesley d will be better than last year and that does not bode well for CNU.  If wesley O is ok they should win this one comfortably.  glad to have some football again.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 31, 2010, 07:09:15 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 31, 2010, 06:16:36 PM
Ski, i agree, glad that the hurricane is missing this time.  I am making the trip and will hopefully find you on Saturday.  Just got a message from CNU85 and he gave me some info on tailgating and parking.  Lots open at 10 for gating, and if anyone is making the trip there is a bar across the street called Schooners that can be hit if some would like.  I think that the wesley d will be better than last year and that does not bode well for CNU.  If wesley O is ok they should win this one comfortably.  glad to have some football again.

Excellent, we'll see you down there.  I think the D line will be particularly effective ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 03, 2010, 11:05:44 AM
Ski, meeting CNU85 at either a tailgate or the local watering hole near campus.  Are you filming?  if so i will be able to find you.  CNU has a ticket for me so I will be sitting on thier side of the field which will likely be near your film position.  He told me the QB from last year is back and if you remember he seemed to be the only player on thier team that showed any fight, took a beating and kept getting up.  good test for Wesley, CNU has plenty returning on D so they may step up thier effort from last year.  safe travels and i will see you tomorrow.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 03, 2010, 03:22:46 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 03, 2010, 11:05:44 AM
Ski, meeting CNU85 at either a tailgate or the local watering hole near campus.  Are you filming?  if so i will be able to find you.  CNU has a ticket for me so I will be sitting on thier side of the field which will likely be near your film position.  He told me the QB from last year is back and if you remember he seemed to be the only player on thier team that showed any fight, took a beating and kept getting up.  good test for Wesley, CNU has plenty returning on D so they may step up thier effort from last year.  safe travels and i will see you tomorrow.

Yeah, I'll be filming, so give me a wave.  I do remember how the QB for CNU was pretty passionate, so he should give a good account of himself.  The weather should be good as well.  Not too hot!  I'm heading out at 4:30 tonight.  The team is already down in VA....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 03, 2010, 09:27:24 PM
taking the trip to cnu in the morning.  meeting a friend from cnu who i met at teh stagg bowl a few years ago.  looking forward to a good game, wesley should win.  hoping that this is the first step to a final game in salem 2nd saturday in december.  if you are making the trip look me up, if not i will report when i get back.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 04, 2010, 01:56:20 PM
McSweeney injured on the first series has not returned.

  Sottilare doing well at QB
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 04, 2010, 02:23:06 PM
Praying that McSweeny is okay  :(

gotta come out with some fire out of halftime
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 04, 2010, 04:58:08 PM
nice test today for wesley.  qb goes out on first series and the team stays to the task and makes enough plays to win the game.  not a dr so i can not comment on mcsweeney other than to say that he spent the rest of the game on crutches.  running backs look good and if they modify the offense to use the tools that are available they should be just fine.  sottllare needs to just stay within himself and not have turnovers.  the defense is very fast, only play of consequence was the halfback option.  they hit and hit, 8 d lineman will were teams down.  still too many penalties, most of the 10 and 15 yard type.  need to clean that up, especially the over celebration ones.  receivers need to make catches when the ball is there to be caught, #8 did a great job going and getting it, #84 not so good. take care of business next week, then a real tough test with del val.  hope mcsweeney can come back, even if he does they should limit his running.  nice win against a team that didnt quit this time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bishop64 on September 05, 2010, 08:50:23 AM
My Bishops fell, but we had our opportunity to pull it out in the last 2 minutes.  Young offense should grow from the experience. Contrats to the Sea Hawks :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 05, 2010, 04:50:23 PM
Well,

Wesley did OK in it's victory over CNU. There are still some tweaks that need to be made on both sides of the ball, primarily on offense.  That said, there were some real bright spots.  The defensive line is once again top notch.  It held CNU to 12 rushing yards.  On the offense, Brandon Wright had 3 TD's, two of them were rushing.  I mentioned him last year as a freshman and he is starting to get his "field eyes." He is a punishing running back that is completely focused on his job!  He is going to have a great year if the offensive line improves over the season.

Let's hope that McSweeney's knee will allow him to return sooner than later.   Luckily, Sottilaire is a really good back-up with an accurate arm.  He did well last year in replacing McSweeney.  Once he gets in the groove with his recievers, he is going to be dangerous.

CNU's quarterback was also favoring his knee, which really hurt his otherwise good mobility.  They had some good plays on the defense that stymied some of Wesley's drives.  I think they will do well this year.

So, Onto Frostberg!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 05, 2010, 04:57:00 PM
agree ski, i forgot to mention the rb, strong runs will make teams respect it and give sottilaire time to throw.  unofficial word is that mcsweeney is out for season.  tough loss, but not a killer.  this is still a very good team.  coaching will have to make the changes to keep them where they belong. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 05, 2010, 08:17:31 PM
  What I got from the radio cast was that Wesley has a lot of people playing. There must have been 5 or 6 different running backs touch the ball. Wesley has in the past run a two QB system so I am sure they have packages that will go with Sottilares strengthts. There aren't many true QBs who run quite like McSweeney but I did here Sottilare run a few naked boots. He seemed to have a good idea throwing and has a few drops... 

Still have to wait and see what happens with McSweeneys MRI Went trough it with my son and it's not a fun trip.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 06, 2010, 09:59:41 AM
pawesley, hope all is well with the family.  sottilaire's runs were not anything that will make teams worry much about it.  cummings came in late and he ran 2 times and looked really good, he is big.  missed last year due to injury so who knows what will happen.  nice thing is is they have frostburg before they have 3 tough ones in a row, del val, cap, and huntingdon will all be tough.  2 long bus trips back to back will also be hard on the team.  i will be in your neck of the woods next week, delval plays wash and jeff.  let me know if you might make that game.  i am out of town for the wesley-delval game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gargantuan Gull on September 06, 2010, 05:08:26 PM
Salisbury had a very strong defensive effort this week, offensively it looked like it was the first game of the season, they moved the ball well at times but stalled when it counted.  If the defense can keep it up and the O can start rolling they have a chance to be pretty good.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 08, 2010, 02:52:58 PM
Good to have football back.....even though it means summer will be ending soon :(. Good job Gulls, I didn't get to the game but it sounded like the defense played very well. CNU coming to town and it seems like we win there and they win here...here's hoping that doesn't happen. I will be there Saturday night....and for any of you old Gull players - Joe Galloway is serving in the USAF, currently stationed @ Goodfellow AFB in Texas.....he said he misses being around the program, but to make sure I cheer loud and GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 08, 2010, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 08, 2010, 02:52:58 PM
Good to have football back.....even though it means summer will be ending soon :(. Good job Gulls, I didn't get to the game but it sounded like the defense played very well. CNU coming to town and it seems like we win there and they win here...here's hoping that doesn't happen. I will be there Saturday night....and for any of you old Gull players - Joe Galloway is serving in the USAF, currently stationed @ Goodfellow AFB in Texas.....he said he misses being around the program, but to make sure I cheer loud and GO GULLS!
Goodfellow?

That is in the middle of Friday Night Lights country.

There is some very good football played in that part of the state,  from 6-Man all the way up to 5A.

He can drive up to Abilene for HSU or McMurry, drive to Brownwood for HPU .  It is about 280 miles out to Alpine for Sul Ross, but that part of the country has beautful sunsets.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 09, 2010, 10:55:40 AM
Thanks Ralph......I am going down there in early October and he and I are planning to see a game somewhere-either college or high school.....should be fun.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on September 09, 2010, 04:09:57 PM
wesleydad,

What is the outlook for Wesley over the next 3 weeks? Have an easy one against Frostberg St., but a tougher home game against DV, then on to Capital. Wesley could be 4-0 after Sept or something else! :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 09, 2010, 04:22:40 PM
raider 66

  It won't be easy . Wesley lost their QB McSweeney for the season . They will have to gel quickly with a new QB who has had some expereince over the last two seasons
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on September 09, 2010, 05:17:41 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 09, 2010, 04:22:40 PM
raider 66

  It won't be easy . Wesley lost their QB McSweeney for the season . They will have to gel quickly with a new QB who has had some expereince over the last two seasons
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 09, 2010, 04:22:40 PM
raider 66

  It won't be easy . Wesley lost their QB McSweeney for the season . They will have to gel quickly with a new QB who has had some expereince over the last two seasons

I missed what happen to McSweeney, that does cause some major concern!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 09, 2010, 05:22:50 PM
Well I think the Frostburg game will be a little interesting this week. I'd like to see how Sottilare does after his first full week of practice as a "starter", and if they give Cummings some time at QB.

McSweenys loss is a tough one but I think Wesley has enough talent to still contend, and go deep into the playoffs as long as Sottilare or Cummings steps up and does a solid job at the quarterback position.

Raider 68- McSweeny tore his ACL on the first drive of the season. I think he tore it on the second carry. He got tackled out of bounds and his left leg bent the wrong way.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 09, 2010, 08:24:24 PM
raider 66, saw the game with cnu.  wesley will not give up many points to anyone so the qb lose may not be as dramatic as some think.  offense has plenty of players to do the job as long as the receivers make the plays.  the big receiver came up small this week and skunkssidekick knows what i am talking about, same as last year.  i will be able to tell you more after this week, i am going to the delval vs. wash and jeff game.  the d is pretty nasty, they took some penalties which will have to be cleaned up, but overall they dominated the game.  only score was a halfback option.  still debating the 7+ drive to cap for that game, but i think they will be 4 = 0 at the end of sept.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 09, 2010, 09:46:04 PM
wesleydad

I don't think I am going to Del Val ,W J game . If it rains it coudl be a running day.. Cook got dinged last week so I don't know if he is playing. Haven't seen anymore in the local papers about it.
Wife was in hospital again and some other family problems have come up.. I am still hoping to get to Wesley next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 09, 2010, 09:47:05 PM
NNAsid

I see NNA isn't homecoming again for Wesley !!!   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 09, 2010, 09:51:40 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 09, 2010, 09:47:05 PM
NNAsid

I see NNA isn't homecoming again for Wesley !!!   

I had to do a double take on that myself.  You do follow us with Southern Va. so I kinda hoped that would be the case this year. :D
It looks as I will be in Dover this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 10, 2010, 12:11:40 AM
I'll be heading out to Frostburg late Friday.  I don't think the QB issue will hold back Wesley too much.  It is not like they had only McSweeney.  Sottilaire should work out well for the team this year.  Once he gets comfortable with the WR tendencies and vice versa, I think the team will start to flow.  He did really well last year and has a cool head on the field.

Without a doubt, the DV and CAP games will be the watershed moments for Wesley's season.  I trully feel that the defensive line is better this year, if you can believe that.  So, while McSweeney's injury is a setback, it isn't a dealbreaker.  I know the players don't think so.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 10, 2010, 03:18:56 PM
Well headin to Frostburg early tomorrow (gettin up at 5 AM). Hopefully the traffic isnt to bad and we can get some lunch before gametime.

Teamski, Im sure I'll see ya there  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 11, 2010, 09:48:12 AM
good luck to wesley today.  i hope that changes have been made to the offense to give sottilaire the optimum chance at success.  i am heading up to delval to see them play wash and jeff.  i will let you all know what i see today for next weeks game with delval.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 11, 2010, 05:13:45 PM
just got back from the delval game.  impressions, wash and jeff is not very good.  delval dominated the game.  that being said, i believe that delval will have trouble scoring on wesley.  their o line will not be able to control the line of scrimmage which will make everything they do tough to run.  they do plenty of stunting on d which can cause some trouble but they are small, wesley should be able to move the ball running or passing.  watch for the o line cut blocking on pass plays.  delval is still kicking off short like last year which will give wesley a short field to work with, not good for delval.  today the gap between 10 and 20 was large, it may be the same with the 3 and 10.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 11, 2010, 11:05:13 PM
Wesley's game was both brutal and sloppy.  We had a lot of penalties and several interceptions, but the defense was again overpowering.  They blocked, IIRC, 2 punts and a field goal during the game.  I can't remember the last time that happened.  Sottilaire did get into a rhythem and nailed a couple TD shots.  He will be fine.  The penalties though..... ::)

Brandon Wright once again was a monster out on the field.  Right on the first play, he broke away and ran for 73 yards and went on to rush for 150 yards for the game.  The second string offense with Cummings was in by the end of the 3rd quarter.

Wesley will need to be focused for Del Val.  There is no room for egos in that game!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 11, 2010, 11:12:06 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 11, 2010, 11:05:13 PM
Wesley's game was both brutal and sloppy.  We had a lot of penalties and several interceptions, but the defense was again overpowering.  They blocked, IIRC, 2 punts and a field goal during the game.  I can't remember the last time that happened.  Sottilaire did get into a rhythem and nailed a couple TD shots.  He will be fine.  The penalties though..... ::)

Brandon Wright once again was a monster out on the field.  Right on the first play, he broke away and ran for 80 yards or so.  The second string offense with Cummings was in by the end of the 3rd quarter.

Wesley will need to be focused for Del Val.  There is no room for egos in that game!

-Ski

In-region game...

Mui importante
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: luvapontiac on September 12, 2010, 12:08:53 AM
Nice game Seagulls! Good to see you kick CNU's rear!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 12, 2010, 09:03:56 AM
Ski, sounds like a typical game by Wesley when they play someone they overmatch.  get away with some sloppy play, but i agree the penalties have to stop, just like last week at CNU.  Glad to hear that Sottilaire did ok, stats look nice except for the 2 ints.  egos were an issue, that is not surprising.  as far as delval goes, i do not see how delval wins the game from what i saw yesterday against wash and jeff.  wesley d will make it really tough for them to score.  turnovers and penalties will certainly make the game closer if they occur.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on September 12, 2010, 11:50:14 AM
Is Salisbury back?....Totally dominated CNU which even in a down year is a well coached team that plays hard. More impressive than the big scoring numbers is the defense. To me the d in the last 2 seasons has been very up and down....some games they would be tough and other times not, and it wasn't the scheme, because that has been the same for the last 8 or so years. The next 2 games will be real interesting with Husson on the road, as I feel most D3 teams don't play their normal games when they have to travel overnight. Then a very good Hapden Sydney team at home. If they can win these next 2, then I am a believer that they have returned to playoff contender. GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 12, 2010, 03:32:51 PM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 12, 2010, 11:50:14 AM
Is Salisbury back?....Totally dominated CNU which even in a down year is a well coached team that plays hard. More impressive than the big scoring numbers is the defense. To me the d in the last 2 seasons has been very up and down....some games they would be tough and other times not, and it wasn't the scheme, because that has been the same for the last 8 or so years. The next 2 games will be real interesting with Husson on the road, as I feel most D3 teams don't play their normal games when they have to travel overnight. Then a very good Hapden Sydney team at home. If they can win these next 2, then I am a believer that they have returned to playoff contender. GO GULLS!

I was shocked to see 488 yards of rushing and only 7 yards of passing for the game.  That is incredible and yet unsettling.  I surely hope that the Gulls develop their passing game.  Being one-dimensional was their undoing in seasons past.....  


That said, congrads on the whomping.  It looks like Salisbury may be a B Pool contender if they can continue the shutouts!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 12, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
subacker, i would not put too much into the whomping of CNU, they are not very good.

salibury will know where they are when they play hampden sydney.  good team with an offense.  good luck this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on September 13, 2010, 12:08:27 AM
Wesley/Frostburg Highlights are up on the wdel.com video page and on the Wesley football page as well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on September 16, 2010, 12:55:05 PM
Looking forward to this weeks game,,we will be there
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 16, 2010, 03:22:44 PM
Same here.  You will see me up on the camera platform.  This game will be one of the watershed moments for both teams this season.  I am looking forward to seeing how well the Wesley defense works against Delaware Valley.  Our last game against them was filled with mistakes and penalties that make every Wesley game an adventure.  It was a good win, though.  With the 9 game schedule once again this year, the game is yet another must-win for the Wolverines. I am definately excited!  And, the weather will be awesome to boot!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 16, 2010, 04:10:34 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on September 16, 2010, 12:55:05 PM
Looking forward to this weeks game,,we will be there

benhit2hard

I think it is family weekend so I will save you a couple of seats in the normal spots..
Should be a good one..

ski

   Should be a big crowd!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 16, 2010, 05:11:24 PM
Big game for Wesley and Del Val here. Should be a good one. Wesleys  just gotta keep those penalties down.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 17, 2010, 12:19:39 AM
Ahhh...Larry Beavers migrated over to the CFL.  I hope he finally found a home!

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Newest+Lion+ready+romp/3525326/story.html

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 17, 2010, 09:43:44 AM
He should do well on that big field
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 17, 2010, 11:22:22 PM
Headed to Dover tomorrow to see the Wesley/ DelVal game.. Should be a good one..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 18, 2010, 04:55:05 PM
Wow what a game!  Man, the Aggies were tough opponents.  But, the Wolverines were even tougher opponents for Wesley.  This game was the 2007 Montclair State game all over again, however with Wesley winning.  My word, I don't have the stats, but you guys will not believe how many turnovers and penalties Wesley had today and still won.  All of this thanks to the defense.  Wesley lead 14-0 going into the half.  They left 14 points on the field easy with all of the turnovers and penalties.  Del Val didn't skip a beat in the 3rd and ran in an interception and completed a string of plays on offence to tie the game up.  They just kept getting the ball back and finally led the game 17-14 halfway through the 4th.  The one thing the offense did right was getting a TD pass with less than 4 minutes left in the game.  The defense did the rest.  

Hats off to Del Val.  They played a really spirited game and they should definately remain in the top 10 with that performance.


Wait for the stats though..... ::)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 18, 2010, 04:58:24 PM
Ahh, here we go:

Penalties:

13 for 199

Fumbles lost : 2

Interceptions :4

Now how many teams can win with that??  So many good plays called back.

That said, Brandon Wright had 145 yards rushing today!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 18, 2010, 05:43:26 PM
How about those Seagulls!   :o  84-7 over Hussan?  588 Yards rushing?  Amazing.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2010, 11:03:37 PM
If at some point in 10 minutes of listening to the postgame show before it left the air, the Huntingdon radio folks could have given the score, that would have been excellent.

Broadcast 101 fail.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 19, 2010, 01:32:56 AM
 Ski

When you look at the film check out the yrds Wright had called back on penalties. Probably in a vacinity of 70 yrds?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 19, 2010, 01:37:21 AM
 The INT's in our own back field were tough. Can't give a team the  ball inside the twenty three times and not have it hurt ya... The D was real good again and there were 4 dead drops. But they got the one play when they needed it.. If Del Val doesn't have a let down they should do well in conference. They have some playmakers on D..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 19, 2010, 01:47:50 AM
42-10 win for Huntingdon over rival Faulkner. Not a well played game by either team. Faulkner just isn't very good and HC had way too many penalties(14 for 132 yds) and a couple of turnovers. Neil Posey made his first start at QB in place of an injured Plagenhoef. Made some good plays and some not so good plays, overall not bad for a first start. If we would have been playing a good team I think we might have been in trouble. Hopefully the folks who were dinged up from last weeks game can get healthy and be ready for BSC next week.  

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 19, 2010, 04:18:42 PM
Well. I dont know where to start really. The penalties killed, as did the turnovers. The officials were below average both ways. I also thought some of Sottilares decisions today showed some of his inexperience although he did step up big in that game winning drive at the end. For this game, I think the loss of McSweeny showed up big. I dont think the score is as close if McSweeny was under center.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 19, 2010, 06:10:12 PM
well, did not see the game, having fun in denver at the great american beer fest.  got reports from jason who listened online.  turned out as i figured it would if wesley did not clean up their game.  the penalties are a disgrace, the turnovers unacceptable.  i didnt think delval would be able to move the ball if wesley didnt give it to them.  receivers dropping the ball, no surprise there.  still not many teams win against a top 10 team with those negative stats.  long bus trips the next 2 weeks will tell how the team deals with some more adversity.  Cap does not seem as strong as past years and huntington is playing well and should give the d a challenge.  in the end a win is a win is a win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on September 20, 2010, 01:15:33 PM
Wesleydad,

We talked about the test for both Wesley and Capital some months ago and now it is game week. IMHO, based upon the games thus far Wesley wins this easily. HScoach's spread is Wesley by 31.5 pts, and he is fairly accurate and sometimes we all miss his pick-ems because it is close.

I am not sure Wesley will win by 4 plus TD's but it will be big! What are your thoughts and what are you hearing? :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 20, 2010, 10:42:20 PM
raider68.  if cap loses to baldwin wallace, then there is not much to think.  stats from last week, 190+ penalty yards, 6 turnovers and still beat the #8 team in the country.  wesley is sick on d, and will do the same this week.  cap will have trouble moving the ball.  how much they win by will depend on the o not tunring it over.  hscoach is good so i wont be surprised if wesley does win by that total.

next weeks game with mount and ohio northern, is it worth the trip.  i will not make the trip this week because i dont see it being a game.  let me know because i can make the game next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on September 21, 2010, 12:32:52 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 20, 2010, 10:42:20 PM
raider68.  if cap loses to baldwin wallace, then there is not much to think.  stats from last week, 190+ penalty yards, 6 turnovers and still beat the #8 team in the country.  wesley is sick on d, and will do the same this week.  cap will have trouble moving the ball.  how much they win by will depend on the o not tunring it over.  hscoach is good so i wont be surprised if wesley does win by that total.

next weeks game with mount and ohio northern, is it worth the trip.  i will not make the trip this week because i dont see it being a game.  let me know because i can make the game next week.

Wesleydad, The Mount/ONU game will be a good one. In 2005 ONU beat Mount 21-14 to break their 100+ games regular season streak and 2 turnovers ( very rare) was the difference.

This year ONU has a real good team and Coach Paul would like to beat his mentor again. Will it happen again, who knows. My guess is it will be a  31-24 or 31-21 type score. The Raiders have a slight advantage by playing at home, but that did not help in 2005. No doubt it would be worth your visit! :)


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 21, 2010, 06:20:41 PM
thanks raider68.  i thought as much.  scoring some points with the misses this weekend by not going to football, instead going to the oktoberfest at the pa renfaire.  if i cant see football, i might as well drink some beer and enjoy some good german food.  i will let you guys know by early next week if i am making the trip.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 23, 2010, 07:29:08 PM
awful quiet on here.  game this week looked really good when it was put on the schedule, not so much now.  cap starting qb is likely out and they probably would have had trouble moving the ball anyway.  wesley should win this game comfortably as long as they take care of the ball.  wish i had seen last weeks game so i could get a feel for what the deal is on offense.  2 ints off of screen passes is not good and the penalties just continue to pile up.  once you reach this level and you want to win it all those things can not happen, time to clean it up.  good luck this weekend.  if you are not making the trip, cap televises the game on their website and they do a good job.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 23, 2010, 08:09:44 PM
I was hearing some crickets myself.  :D Well hopefully wesley can right some things here in Bexley vs Capital. Somebody will step up at have to step up at QB and hopefully Sottilare can figure it out soon, and the passing game can get to be consistent. And I hope the penalties arent up to 199 yards on Saturday. Thats just unacceptable. Well, time for those Capital Crusaders.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 23, 2010, 10:20:42 PM
 When you play aggressive you are going to get penalties. The block in the backs are not good and the one verbal penalty was bad too. I cn remember a few games whefre that was the half time totals in penalty yrds ;D DelVal made some nice reads on the screens and the fumbled punt was a bad judgement move... Del Vals punter was very good that day and Wesleys return man couldn't get deep enough... And as I stated in an earlier post there one gunner was exceptional. DelVal played a real good game on D and blitzed often.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 24, 2010, 09:42:30 PM
pawesley, could not disagree more. aggressive does not equal stupid and that is what those type of penalties are, stupid.  i was at the cnu game and wesley needs to learn how to walk away and shut up.  ignorance gets you penalties.  i will catch up with you at some point this  season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 25, 2010, 12:35:40 AM
Gene--

Enjoyed a variety of Great Lakes Brewing Co products this evening. Bleeding Buckeye by Elevator was tasty too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 25, 2010, 08:09:20 AM
Josh, great lakes makes some of the best brew out there.  never heard of elevator so i will have to look them up.  hope wesley does what they are supposed to do and cut down on the penalties.  i expect sottilaire to show improvement as he gets more reps and hopefully the play calling puts him in a better position to make the plays.  enjoy the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 25, 2010, 08:28:55 AM
It is a beautiful day out here in Columbus!  Wesley had a run through yesterday at the field.  Man, Capital's new field house is amazing with it's indoor track!

I agree that Wesley needs to sort out its penalties.  The coaches were really working on the team this week to sort that out.  I think the podcast was spot-on in that Wesley tends to sort out the silly stuff as the season goes on.  I don't think they will be perfect, but they should start playing with fewer mistakes soon.


See you guys on the far side....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 25, 2010, 09:08:18 AM
I know that they have addressed the issue all week in several ways including bring in a local college official during practice to speak with them on how thing are called and what an official is looking for. Personally, I know that it is something that drives Coach nuts and that he finds unacceptable. The great thing about college football is that you learn from your mistakes, from adversity and grow up a little bit.

I think this will be the case for Sotilliare too. He has the ability to be a top notch QB at this level. He just needs to keep working hard. The decision making will get better.

Elevator is a micro right in Columbus. The Bleeding Buckeye was a red.

Also chatted with former with former Wesley QB Chris Warrick this week. He is in Afghanistan and I am sure leading his troops as effectively as he used to lead the Wolverines. Say a prayer for him and all the guys over there. I am sure they are homesick and anxious to get home. I have a lot of respect and admiration for what those guys do. Be safe!

@Hawks-- What the story with your QB situation is Plagenhoef back this this week? Looks like it doesn't matter who plays the Hawks keep putting up the points. Should be a good one against B-S.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 25, 2010, 04:23:12 PM
Well I suppose that the boys will be runnning lots this week.... This game was uuuuuugly.


Hmmm Scanlon in the wildcat!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 25, 2010, 08:15:45 PM
Not much to say about today's game except we just got our butts whipped. It's becoming a familiar story this year, too many penalties and too many turnovers. Also today Keith Anthony made way too many tackles(17). I think we all know it isn't usually a good thing when you are hearing your free-safety's name called making tackles all day.

@Conrad - yes Plagenhoef was back today but was limping pretty badly toward the end. Not sure yet how bad it was or whether he'll be able to go next week. I know we will have to play a lot better next week or it won't be much of a game.

Any of you Wesley guys making the trip to Montgomery? If so, look me up in the tailgating area and we'll give you a burger or dog.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 25, 2010, 08:37:06 PM
Well just got back from Cap. Its a really nice campus.

As for the game, well, at least the penalties werent at 200 yards this time (147 I think). But that number is still WAY too high. But it is an improvement from the Del Val game   ;)

Sottilare looked better too tossing 4 TDs. Looked much more comfortable in that pocket, stepping up and making reads. But hes still got a ways to go.

Time to clean up some more before Huntingdon. If I some how come up with 100+ dollars before the weekend I dont think I'll be down there. But if I did I would ha ha. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 26, 2010, 12:00:33 PM
Well, the team got back at 0300 this morning.

Capital put up one hell of a game for Wesley.  The Wolverines made mistakes and committed 147 yards of penalties, but that doesn't detract from the job Capital did in shutting down Wesley's running game and pass defense.  I think  Wesley was really looking for Capital's running game, but it seemed that Capital made a conscious decision before the game to mix things up with the passing game.  They started out running, which didn't work (held to 51 yards) and then they started corners and slants that continued for the whole game.  It wasn't until the end that Wesley finally solved the patterns and nabbed the interceptions.  Luckily for the Wolverines, Sottilaire can pass the ball!!  If he couldn't, Wesley would of lost.  So much for the 30 point blowout, hehehehe.....  From what I heard from the Capital folks, Capital can be a hot and cold team.  They mentioned that 28-21 loss to Mount Union last year.  They definately brought that intensity with them Saturday! This shows the depth of the OAC!

I believe Wesley is really benefitting from these closer games.  The team is really jelling in the 4th and clamped down on both sides of the ball.  The Capital game woke up the secondary.  The Wolverines haven't peaked yet and they are learning how to win close games.  The players are finding out that talent only goes so far.  The rest has to come from the mind and heart.   Next week, Wesley has its longest road trip for the regular season with Huntingdon.  That should be yet another interesting game!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSC85 on September 26, 2010, 02:04:59 PM
I want to compliment Salisbury on a well played game on Saturday.  Also, I want to comment on the excellent hospitality that the Salisbury staff and fans showed.  The game could have gone either way and both teams played extremely hard.  It was a fine example of Division III football.  Neither team quit and both teams came back from more than a touchdown deficit.  I was extremely impressed with Salisbury's quarterback and the offensive line.  The Seagulls will win their share of games if they play like they did on Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on September 26, 2010, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 26, 2010, 12:00:33 PM
Well, the team got back at 0300 this morning.

Capital put up one hell of a game for Wesley.  The Wolverines made mistakes and committed 147 yards of penalties, but that doesn't detract from the job Capital did in shutting down Wesley's running game and pass defense.  I think  Wesley was really looking for Capital's running game, but it seemed that Capital made a conscious decision before the game to mix things up with the passing game.  They started out running, which didn't work (held to 51 yards) and then they started corners and slants that continued for the whole game.  It wasn't until the end that Wesley finally solved the patterns and nabbed the interceptions.  Luckily for the Wolverines, Sottilaire can pass the ball!!  If he couldn't, Wesley would of lost.  So much for the 30 point blowout, hehehehe.....  From what I heard from the Capital folks, Capital can be a hot and cold team.  They mentioned that 28-21 loss to Mount Union last year.  They definately brought that intensity with them Saturday! This shows the depth of the OAC!

I believe Wesley is really benefitting from these closer games.  The team is really jelling in the 4th and clamped down on both sides of the ball.  The Capital game woke up the secondary.  The Wolverines haven't peaked yet and they are learning how to win close games.  The players are finding out that talent only goes so far.  The rest has to come from the mind and heart.   Next week, Wesley has its longest road trip for the regular season with Huntingdon.  That should be yet another interesting game!

-Ski

Wesley will win out, IMHO and be ready for another playoff run. I give Cap credit for playing them tough. Could be that Wesley plays another team from the OAC later this year! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2010, 09:16:43 PM
  Ski

  If Wesley was playing that zone again I can see where they gave up some yards in the passing game. Does say something that when a team gets in the red zone and Wesley goes man to man they shut down the other teams passing game as well as the running game.  But I have to agree with wesleydad that the penalties are an achillies heal... Especially the late hit stuff. Being aggressive is one thing but personal fouls are adding up..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 30, 2010, 06:48:05 PM
wow, way too quiet in hear.  sorry cant add much since i have not seen the team since week 1.  not sure where my travels are taking me this weekend and next weekend i will be in bridgewater joining the stone station gang for their home coming against hampden sydney who may be a playoff opponent down the road.  i do not think huntington has enough to keep the game close.  i think the d will be a little angry about the yards given up last week.  i believe the o will continue to improve and score more than enough to win.  the long bus trip may have some negative effect, but they should still win.  is there any chance they keep the penalty yards under 100, when 50 or less should be what is accepted.  clean it up, play hard, but play smart.  safe travels in this weather.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 30, 2010, 08:24:24 PM
Really quiet.......

I think some players may be flying. Go Wesley! and keep the penalty yards down.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 30, 2010, 09:58:07 PM
The team is flying out tommorow, so no painful bus trip!!  ;D  They should have a good game considering the points Huntington gave up in their last game.  But hey, you never know, right?   If Wesley keeps the game relatively clean, then they will be able to roll.

Anyways, Sottilaire threw for something like 407 yards in the Capital game (they had them adjusted after a review of the stats which were jacked up) which is more in one game than Warwick!  Not too shabby.  I'm once again pumped up for the trip!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 01, 2010, 09:09:58 PM
I knew there were going to be issues with the stats from Wesley last week after talking to their SID who said a fourth-string WR (who didnt make trip) was credited with some kickoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 02, 2010, 03:17:19 PM
well sounds pretty sloppy so far.  too many mistakes keeping a team in the game that they should beat.  hopefully they will fix it at halftime and take control of the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 02, 2010, 03:23:25 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 02, 2010, 03:17:19 PM
well sounds pretty sloppy so far.  too many mistakes keeping a team in the game that they should beat.  hopefully they will fix it at halftime and take control of the game.

Agreed, two turnovers set up two Hawk scores.

Edit guess the first score was set up by punt return. Didn't get to start listen until 1/2 way through the first quarter. Beautiful morning/afternoon with my family at soccer and Fifer Orchard.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 02, 2010, 03:33:31 PM
Well this is closer than it should be. That and Im getting mad at WDEL for playing nonstop commercials sometimes when they take a "break". It has gotten better though as the game went on.

Just talked with former QB Chris Warrick via Facebook about the game. And some past ones.  :D Say a prayer for those guys over there. Just like Conrad said.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 02, 2010, 03:50:56 PM
Salisbury leads Apprentice 31-0 late in the fourth. Gull have fumbled eight times and lost six.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 02, 2010, 04:32:17 PM
Well thats a little better 51-28
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 02, 2010, 04:45:45 PM
I need a run down waterboy.... I was at my Brother-inlaws funeral service?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 02, 2010, 04:47:16 PM
They were up 24-21 at the half and have scored every possession in the 2nd half. Wright got injured and McAndrew got hurt earlier this week. Justin is over 400 yards again with 6 TD passes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 02, 2010, 05:02:18 PM
thanks jaybow!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 03, 2010, 09:47:18 AM
The team returned to Dover early this morning.  

Well, it was a slow start, of course.  The source of the problem (to me) was Huntingdon's no huddle offense.  They rapidly got the plays off that kept Wesley's defense unprepared.  They also used a D-Read scheme and lined up right away to get the call from the line.  This allowed for some open lanes and the Hawks took a big advantage of it. It took quite a bit for the defense to get adjusted to lining up quickly.   In the second half, the adjustments made by the defense mitigated the advantages that Huntingdon had.  They were quicker in lining up and pretty much knew the playbook by then.  The secondary was able to predict the patterns and a pair of interceptions resulted, one a return for TD.  I think this was a great experience for both the players and the coaches.

Huntingdon really played a spirited first half.  By keeping the Defense off-kilter, they were able to execute quite well. Wesley's offense was slow to start, but Sottilaire did a great job in reading the secondary and the rest is a 6 TD pass history.  Both Stevenson and Krout were able to outjump the safeties.    

Still over 100 yards in penalties, so there is more work to do.  Slowly but surely.

I was really impressed by the Huntingdon fans and the band.  Both really belied the small school size!   The team was really fired up and it showed.  For such a young program, Huntington has really done a stellar job.  I know the locker room needs some work though, hehehe......

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 03, 2010, 11:06:52 AM
Not much to add to Teamski's summary, good description of how it went. We pretty much knew going in that we would have to play a perfect game to be able to stay in it. We kept it close for a while but had some breakdowns in the third quarter and Wesley was able to pull away.
I'm glad we had the chance to play a top team and see how we measure up. We definitely still have a ways to go before we can be considered among the top programs.
Good luck to the Wolverines the rest of the way. I would like to see you guys break through finally and make it to Salem.


Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 03, 2010, 05:34:26 PM
Slowly but surely is right. Wesley is down to 112 yards in penalties. Better but still needs work.

Ski pretty much said it all, but how about Justin Sottilare stepping in to the QB position with 400+ yards the past two weeks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on October 04, 2010, 02:05:23 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 02, 2010, 03:33:31 PM
Well this is closer than it should be. That and Im getting mad at WDEL for playing nonstop commercials sometimes when they take a "break". It has gotten better though as the game went on.

Let me express my sincere apology for the internet issues we've been having.  We use a fairly complicated system that splits our internet and radio feeds in terms of commercials, and if a button isn't pressed we end remain in that commercial loop mode even when over-the-air is back to me.  Needless to say had I known what was going on I would have made sure our board operator (who is in just his 5th game himself) was aware.  The last thing I want to do is be 1,000 miles from home and not be able to be heard by people who want to hear me fight a cold and call a game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 04, 2010, 04:57:44 PM


Quote from: wdelsean on October 04, 2010, 02:05:23 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 02, 2010, 03:33:31 PM
Well this is closer than it should be. That and Im getting mad at WDEL for playing nonstop commercials sometimes when they take a "break". It has gotten better though as the game went on.

Let me express my sincere apology for the internet issues we've been having.  We use a fairly complicated system that splits our internet and radio feeds in terms of commercials, and if a button isn't pressed we end remain in that commercial loop mode even when over-the-air is back to me.  Needless to say had I known what was going on I would have made sure our board operator (who is in just his 5th game himself) was aware.  The last thing I want to do is be 1,000 miles from home and not be able to be heard by people who want to hear me fight a cold and call a game.


Sean

It has happened before  but we will live through it. You and Jason are doing a great job. It is great that we have you to bring us the games. As far as Wesley has to travel to play, it is impossible for a lot of fans to make those trips.

Keep up the good work 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 04, 2010, 05:35:01 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 04, 2010, 04:57:44 PM


Quote from: wdelsean on October 04, 2010, 02:05:23 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 02, 2010, 03:33:31 PM
Well this is closer than it should be. That and Im getting mad at WDEL for playing nonstop commercials sometimes when they take a "break". It has gotten better though as the game went on.

Let me express my sincere apology for the internet issues we've been having.  We use a fairly complicated system that splits our internet and radio feeds in terms of commercials, and if a button isn't pressed we end remain in that commercial loop mode even when over-the-air is back to me.  Needless to say had I known what was going on I would have made sure our board operator (who is in just his 5th game himself) was aware.  The last thing I want to do is be 1,000 miles from home and not be able to be heard by people who want to hear me fight a cold and call a game.


Sean

It has happened before  but we will live through it. You and Jason are doing a great job. It is great that we have you to bring us the games. As far as Wesley has to travel to play, it is impossible for a lot of fans to make those trips.

Keep up the good work  

Well, I couldn't hear a thing....But then again, I was standing on the roof of the pressbox!  ;)  Thank the lord for WDEL and their broadcast and Sean and Jason for doing a great job!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 04, 2010, 07:24:44 PM
agreed, too many commercials, but a great job calling the game.  this time alone, next time jason cant make it and you need a color guy, i may not have ever done radio but i have announced a game or two and would be glad to sit in.  plus it would give me an excuse to make a game that far away.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 04, 2010, 07:49:00 PM
yes we'll live.  :D. you and jason do a great job calling the games. better than most!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 04, 2010, 07:49:45 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 04, 2010, 07:24:44 PM
agreed, too many commercials, but a great job calling the game.  this time alone, next time jason cant make it and you need a color guy, i may not have ever done radio but i have announced a game or two and would be glad to sit in.  plus it would give me an excuse to make a game that far away.

Now that I would something I would like to see and hear!!   ;)  I'd love to hear your frankness over the air.....  :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 04, 2010, 09:57:54 PM
teamski, lol.  not sure if some others would like it.  i can keep it nicee nice if need be, but i am not sure if that is the best to do.  call it as i see it, sometimes others agree and sometimes not.  heading to bridgewater this weekend to hang with stone station at their homecoming then will be in dover for the south va game the following week.  see you then.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 05, 2010, 03:10:30 PM
so lets see.....will the Wesley wind tunnel be in gale-forced mode this weekend??

hehehehe
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 05, 2010, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 05, 2010, 03:10:30 PM
so lets see.....will the Wesley wind tunnel be in gale-forced mode this weekend??

hehehehe

Not sure sid!!! If the temps are going to be in the 60's I would think yes!!! Are you coming up?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 05, 2010, 09:52:50 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 05, 2010, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 05, 2010, 03:10:30 PM
so lets see.....will the Wesley wind tunnel be in gale-forced mode this weekend??

hehehehe

Not sure sid!!! If the temps are going to be in the 60's I would think yes!!! Are you coming up?

60s...that's a heatwave for what its normally when we play there.   Yes I am coming up for this one
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on October 06, 2010, 08:00:41 AM
The BPD3 Level System Top 25 unveiled:

NOTE:
BPD3 Level System Top 25
To add to the intrigue and fun of the ranking system, I am creating "Levels" within the Top 25. In the "Level System", I will be grouping teams that are reasonably comparable in my opinion and exposing where I believe there is a drop-off of some kind between ranks. 

Is there anyone "intruding" on Level 1 with UW-W and Mount Union?

What about Wesley?

Where do the "breaks" occur between levels?

www.uwwfootball.blogspot.com
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 06, 2010, 10:39:55 PM
bleedpurple, maybe not intruding but at least looking over the fence.  anyone at last year semi game knows that wesley could have won the game.  why they did not is open for debate.  several mount folk said it was not due to the talent on the field.  i agree with your premise.  there are levels and anyone who goes and watches multiple games, not just there rooting interset, can see it.  wesley is in group 2 along with umhb and a few others.  until someone knocks off uwww and mount they are in group 1.  after group 2 there are about 10 teams in group 3 and then the rest.  that is not a slight to any team, just the way it is.  i like traveling to see what else is out there and in the end few can win it all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on October 06, 2010, 11:04:56 PM
Wesleydad!

They COULD have won the game last year, but they will NEVER win with the way things stand.  I know that will bring a strong negative response from the Wesley crowd, but so be it.  I will admit that I have been somewhat lessed than impressed with Wesley's performance so far this year. 

To be fair, I have also felt the same with Mount until last week against ONU.  I am still down on the running game (who wouldn't be), but the defense started playing like a typical fast, hard-assed Mount defense.  They have a long way to go.

Here's hoping you get a chance to make the journey to Ohio, or better yet I get the chance to journey out your way.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 07, 2010, 12:06:49 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on October 06, 2010, 11:04:56 PM

They COULD have won the game last year, but they will NEVER win with the way things stand.  I know that will bring a strong negative response from the Wesley crowd, but so be it.  I will admit that I have been somewhat lessed than impressed with Wesley's performance so far this year. 


I'm darn-tootin' furious!  How dare you!   ;D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 07, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
skunks, we have talked about it a length and i agree with you about their potential versus actual results against the top 2.  they have played good enough to win, but not good enough to win it all, big difference in the 2.  you know i will travel and make a trip your way if need be, but you would certainly be welcome my way if it happened.  wesley has to clean up the slop part of each game, it is the same - turnovers and penalties.  one is effort the other is lack of discipline.  mount shows improvement because it is expected by the coaching staff, the results are obvious.  wesley is not there yet and may not get there if some things are not changed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 07, 2010, 09:27:25 PM
nnasid

where will you be saturday? i sit to the right of the press box second row aisle
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 07, 2010, 10:07:46 PM
Well.....halfway point in the season. Wesley is at 5-0. And I didnt think we'd be without McSweeny and McAndrew at this point. But hey, Sottilare has done extremely well. 1500+ yards so far. Wright has showed his stuff and the run defense is great. And, for whatever its worth, (and by my calculations), this is Wesleys best offensive year (POINTS WISE) since the days of Chris Warrick when they put up 222 points and averaged 44.4 per game in their first 5 games. The 2010 Wolverines have put up 205 averaging 41 per game thru 5. The defense has given up 72 points (14.4 per game) thru 5 games. Well for whatever those stats are worth.  ;)

Just curious, what do you all think about the Wolverines so far this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 08, 2010, 10:43:36 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 07, 2010, 09:27:25 PM
nnasid

where will you be saturday? i sit to the right of the press box second row aisle

I'll be up in the box helping out up there.
Probably in a tan football staff jacket cause I know the wind tunnel will be in full force ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 08, 2010, 05:25:50 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 07, 2010, 10:07:46 PM
Just curious, what do you all think about the Wolverines so far this year.

Interesting analysis.  If you figure we haven't had any Beaver returns, the scoring average isn't bad at all.  Every year I bite my nails over the team.  With the Irish connection broken, more so this year.    However, Wesley continues to show its depth and other players have been stepping up.  Penalties and mistakes always keep things interesting, no doubt.  It seems that Wesley is on that track that leads to the playoffs and hopefully homefield advantage to the semi's.  The key is getting the team to jell and minimize those mistakes they are known for.  Slowly, but surely that is happening.  Sottilaire is continuing to improve and his 6 TD performance was quite something. 

The key is peaking at the right time to put a full game in.  When that happens, anything is possible....

nnasid,

I will be on top of the box this weekend, so give me a shake this weekend!


-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 08, 2010, 10:27:34 PM
  Congrats Coach Mike Drass for being inducted into the Mansfleld Hall of Fame!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 09, 2010, 10:22:17 AM
Quote from: Teamski on October 08, 2010, 05:25:50 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 07, 2010, 10:07:46 PM
Just curious, what do you all think about the Wolverines so far this year.

Interesting analysis.  If you figure we haven't had any Beaver returns, the scoring average isn't bad at all.  Every year I bite my nails over the team.  With the Irish connection broken, more so this year.    However, Wesley continues to show its depth and other players have been stepping up.  Penalties and mistakes always keep things interesting, no doubt.  It seems that Wesley is on that track that leads to the playoffs and hopefully homefield advantage to the semi's.  The key is getting the team to jell and minimize those mistakes they are known for.  Slowly, but surely that is happening.  Sottilaire is continuing to improve and his 6 TD performance was quite something. 

The key is peaking at the right time to put a full game in.  When that happens, anything is possible....

nnasid,

I will be on top of the box this weekend, so give me a shake this weekend!


-Ski


forecast for 77 degrees today - this is odd ;)

me thinks the jacket stays in the car today
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 09, 2010, 05:24:16 PM
Well a note on penalties out of the game vs. NNA. Only about 50 some yards worth. and i think about 15 of those came at the end of the game when the  younger guys were in. More improvement in that category.

And I hope Gene Knight will be alright. It would be a shame for his career to end like that after being a 5th year senior and all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 09, 2010, 05:59:39 PM
  Yeah, that game was painful to watch.  Wesley led 52-0 at the half with a lot of players getting quality time out on the field in the second half.  As you mentioned, it was hard seeing Knight being rolled off the field on a stretcher.  The guy has been one of the cornerstone leaders for Wesley thoughout his tenure.  He is one hell of a good guy, both on and off the field.  Wesley has definately seen its fair share of injuries this year, more than I can remember in my 6 short years of watching the team.  For one thing, it has allowed players to step up and you can see it happening.  Sottilaire is but just one example.

We probably won't see the effects of these injuries until the playoffs.  Until then, the step-up players are getting some good experience which is going to pay some big dividends.   Along with that experience, I have a feeling that there will be a higher level of intensity going into the post-season.  Players are going to try to take that extra effort to prove themselves, something we usually don't see considering the experience level of a lot of the starters.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: paulisdeadman on October 09, 2010, 07:49:28 PM
Long time reader, first time poster.  Just wanted to jump on here and give Gene Knight a shout out. All injuries are terrible, but to see a guy like him get carted off was tough to see. Here's hoping he has a quick and speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 09, 2010, 10:06:32 PM
Quote from: paulisdeadman on October 09, 2010, 07:49:28 PM
Long time reader, first time poster.  Just wanted to jump on here and give Gene Knight a shout out. All injuries are terrible, but to see a guy like him get carted off was tough to see. Here's hoping he has a quick and speedy recovery.

Well said!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 11, 2010, 08:31:39 AM
Good to meet PA_Wesleyfan and Teamski Saturday.

Such a beautiful day Saturday I never saw a snowball in the forecast - but that snowball started quickly at the game (21 points on five offensive plays).

Best of luck this year - and speedy recovery to Gene Knight
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 11, 2010, 02:44:22 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 11, 2010, 08:31:39 AM
Good to meet PA_Wesleyfan and Teamski Saturday.

Such a beautiful day Saturday I never saw a snowball in the forecast - but that snowball started quickly at the game (21 points on five offensive plays).

Best of luck this year - and speedy recovery to Gene Knight

It was a pleasure meeting you for once!  :) Good luck to the Builders for the rest of the year.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 11, 2010, 08:14:17 PM
spent the weekend in bridgewater with stone station.  heard the score and was hoping that wesley did not run it up.  after seeing the box score it looks like they did what they could not to. only 13 passes with sottilaire only throwing 11 was good to see.  seeing what nnasid posted also gave me an idea of what happened.  i will finally get to see the team again this weekend for homecoming.  bridgewater folk said that south va is not very good so the game could be ugly.  i hope wesley keeps tightening things up as the playoffs near.  having only 3 games left may hurt for prep but will help keep players healthy.  the south will have to go through wesley this year unless they get shipped to the east.  hope not.  see you all on saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 11, 2010, 09:02:36 PM
 nnasid

Good to finally meet you too.  Hope you had a good trip back down 13.

Wesleydad

There was no running up of the score. The second team played some of the second quarter and I would have to say that I don't ever remember seeing 4th and 5th team players getting so much time in a game.  There were actually more pts scored by the D because they gave the O the ball inside the ten twice...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 12, 2010, 08:44:45 AM
was nothing near running it up as Sottilare didnt even finish the first half.

Far as your game this week - as I told Drass after the game - since we play SVU in 2 weeks we kinda hope for a Wesley wallop on homecoming :D


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 12, 2010, 02:34:18 PM
thanks for the points.  as i said, after i looked at the boxscore i could tell that wesley did not run it up.  i always worry when i see scores like that that maybe they could be avoided if the 2, 3 , 4, etc stringers get to play.  too many games throughout the country with scores that high could be changed by playing the subs and playcalliing.  after watching nna play for 5 years, i have the utmost respect for all those involved with the program.  good luck the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on October 12, 2010, 02:52:51 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 12, 2010, 02:34:18 PM
thanks for the points.  as i said, after i looked at the boxscore i could tell that wesley did not run it up.  i always worry when i see scores like that that maybe they could be avoided if the 2, 3 , 4, etc stringers get to play.  too many games throughout the country with scores that high could be changed by playing the subs and playcalliing.  after watching nna play for 5 years, i have the utmost respect for all those involved with the program.  good luck the rest of the year.

wesleydad, Teamski,

It sure looks like Wesley will run the table and be headed once again to the playoffs. What teams come to mind that could be a real dogfight for Wesley in the South region or possible imports from other regions? :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 12, 2010, 07:56:53 PM
raiders68, if they run the table.  there is only one in the south that i see and that is mary hardin baylor.  i dont know who would get shipped in, but wesley could get shipped east.  then del val who already played them tough would be a good game and the rep from both the njac and E8 could be tough.  based on what i have seen so far this year wesley will be tough for anyone but the big 2 to beat if they play up to thier ability.  until they take the next step, make it to the stagg then there will continue to be questions about the intangibles that are needed to get there.  they certainly put as much talent on the field as any team in d3.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 12, 2010, 08:15:24 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 12, 2010, 07:56:53 PM
 there is only one in the south that i see and that is mary hardin baylor.  

I agree.  That is, if Wesley doesn't lose to the Wolverines first!   :P

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 12, 2010, 09:58:24 PM
Well. I say lets finish the regular season. Still have to win 3 more to be in the regular season to get into the playoffs. And I think that they can only beat themselves. But we'll see how far they can stave off those injuries to McSweeny, McAndrew and others when we get into the playoffs. After the first round, we will have a pretty good idea.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 13, 2010, 08:45:14 AM
Well, one game to keep an eye on is the Salisbury game.  The Gulls always put up a big fight as this is the Highway 13 rivalry.  I expect a hard hitting game for sure especially with Salisbury's reliance on the running game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on October 13, 2010, 09:30:24 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 12, 2010, 07:56:53 PM
raiders68, if they run the table.  there is only one in the south that i see and that is mary hardin baylor.  i dont know who would get shipped in, but wesley could get shipped east.  then del val who already played them tough would be a good game and the rep from both the njac and E8 could be tough.  based on what i have seen so far this year wesley will be tough for anyone but the big 2 to beat if they play up to thier ability.  until they take the next step, make it to the stagg then there will continue to be questions about the intangibles that are needed to get there.  they certainly put as much talent on the field as any team in d3.


Thanks wesleydad +k,


While it is early to look at the playoffs, I see these teams as undefeated and a top seed for each region. IMHO :)

UW-Whitewater
Mount Union
Wesley
Mary Hardin Baylor
St. Thomas

Their remaining games indicate they win out, barring an upset and one will be a #2 seed in a region. Where they go in terms of region is anyone's guess, except UMHB will stay in the South.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on October 13, 2010, 03:17:15 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on October 13, 2010, 09:30:24 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 12, 2010, 07:56:53 PM
raiders68, if they run the table.  there is only one in the south that i see and that is mary hardin baylor.  i dont know who would get shipped in, but wesley could get shipped east.  then del val who already played them tough would be a good game and the rep from both the njac and E8 could be tough.  based on what i have seen so far this year wesley will be tough for anyone but the big 2 to beat if they play up to thier ability.  until they take the next step, make it to the stagg then there will continue to be questions about the intangibles that are needed to get there.  they certainly put as much talent on the field as any team in d3.


Thanks wesleydad +k,


While it is early to look at the playoffs, I see these teams as undefeated and a top seed for each region. IMHO :)

UW-Whitewater
Mount Union
Wesley
Mary Hardin Baylor
St. Thomas

Their remaining games indicate they win out, barring an upset and one will be a #2 seed in a region. Where they go in terms of region is anyone's guess, except UMHB will stay in the South.


5 teams, 4 regions...one of those are going to get screwed at end up a number 2. my guess is MHB and Wesley will be grouped in the south. UMU east, UWW North, UST West.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 13, 2010, 05:30:02 PM
I agree, I think the South will remain the same with UMHB and Wesley sharing the spoils.... Boy how those regional rankings come into play here in the South!   :-*

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 13, 2010, 06:10:28 PM
Id like to see another Mount-Wesley game.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on October 13, 2010, 07:05:54 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 13, 2010, 06:10:28 PM
Id like to see another Mount-Wesley game.  ;D

Could happen again, unless either team loses before or the South does not play the East. This also assumes that Mount Union gets shipped to the East again, again and again! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 13, 2010, 07:07:17 PM
if i have to choose between mount and uwww, i would choose mount and it has nothing to do with the beat downs that uwww laid on wesley.  i can drive to mount and would not be able to make the uwww game.  if they keep umhb and wesley together then that will make for a good game, hopefully wesley has the home field so if my friends from umhb make the trip i get to hang with some pretty cool southern folk.  if i have to drive to mount i get to have margaritas for breakfast with some other pretty cool ohio people, so both are a win win for me.  we had a ball in wisconsin when we traveled there when jason played, but it would be hard to justify the trip having no player in the game.  in the end it doesnt matter because i already booked by hotel in salem for the stagg so it just matters who plays, would love to toot wesleys horn if they make it, if not we will still have a great time with great people from around d3.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on October 14, 2010, 11:19:20 AM
Quote from: Raider 68 on October 13, 2010, 07:05:54 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 13, 2010, 06:10:28 PM
Id like to see another Mount-Wesley game.  ;D

Could happen again, unless either team loses before or the South does not play the East. This also assumes that Mount Union gets shipped to the East again, again and again! ;D

I bet UMU fans aren't compaining about playing in the East region...  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on October 14, 2010, 04:00:41 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 14, 2010, 11:19:20 AM
Quote from: Raider 68 on October 13, 2010, 07:05:54 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 13, 2010, 06:10:28 PM
Id like to see another Mount-Wesley game.  ;D

Could happen again, unless either team loses before or the South does not play the East. This also assumes that Mount Union gets shipped to the East again, again and again! ;D

I bet UMU fans aren't compaining about playing in the East region...  ;)

02 Warhawk,

As long as the NCAA keeps moving UWW to the north, what choice do the Raiders have ( that's right, no one has a choice). Maybe this year Mount stays North, but with 3 to 4 strong West region teams, I doubt it! :) If I had a vote, Wesley would be my #1 seed in the south! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on October 15, 2010, 12:58:00 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on October 14, 2010, 04:00:41 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 14, 2010, 11:19:20 AM
Quote from: Raider 68 on October 13, 2010, 07:05:54 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 13, 2010, 06:10:28 PM
Id like to see another Mount-Wesley game.  ;D

Could happen again, unless either team loses before or the South does not play the East. This also assumes that Mount Union gets shipped to the East again, again and again! ;D

I bet UMU fans aren't compaining about playing in the East region...  ;)

02 Warhawk,

As long as the NCAA keeps moving UWW to the north, what choice do the Raiders have ( that's right, no one has a choice). Maybe this year Mount stays North, but with 3 to 4 strong West region teams, I doubt it! :) If I had a vote, Wesley would be my #1 seed in the south! :)

UWW was in the west last year...and almost lost to Linfield.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 16, 2010, 08:24:00 AM
finally making a trip to dover this week.  will be nice to see how much the team has improved since week one against cnu.  hope to see a clean game with very few penalties.  stone station saw so va play bridgewater and said that they were not very good so i dont think the game will be close.  with the bye week before salisbury this is the last chance to get some game action.  see you there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 16, 2010, 08:25:44 AM
Well, I'm pumped up for the game today against SVU.  Should be a good one.  I ran into Coach Knapp at the Dover HS vs. Sussex Tech game last night.  The game featured ex-Wesley assistant coaches on both sides of the field.  Dover edged out Sussex Tech 36-34.  I think it is neat to see Wesley farming coaches and seeing them in action.

A bit OT, but there was one play I cannot explain.  Dover kicked off to Sussex Tech with a squib kick.  The ball hit a first line  Sussex player and it was kicked straight back to a Dover player who covered it up at the Dover 40.  The officials gave the ball back to Sussex Tech at the 50.  What the $#(@?

Anyways, it will be windy today so pack a windbreaker!

-Ski  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 16, 2010, 01:46:43 PM
Huntingdon 14 Salisbury 14 11:00 left in 2nd. HC with a lot of trouble with SU option in 1st. Posey started at QB for HC but wasn't able to move the ball very much. Freshman Taylor Hughes comes in in the 2nd and sparks a TD drive and the wind catches the ensuing kick-off dropping short for a HC recovery and another quick TD drive. Hopefully the defense can figure out the option and the frosh QB can stay hot.

20-14 SU w/ 6:25 left in 2nd. It's going to be a long day if we can't figure out a way to stop that option. Doesn't sound like we are tackling very well. Ongoing problem this year.

27-14 SU w/ :33 left in 2nd. SU with another long drive and score right before the half. Would have been nice to keep them out of the end zone there.

29-14 Posey back in a QB for HC in the 3rd, two 3 and outs with a fumbled snap for a safety on the punt after the second possession. Not sure why we took Hughes out as he was able to move the ball pretty well in the first half.

32-14 SU w/14:34 left in 4th. Two long drives for SU in the second half and we've managed to hold them to a field goal. HC has run 6 plays in the second half to 20 something for SU. Hughes back in at QB for HC.

HC drives to inside the 10 but Manuel throws int in end-zone out of the wildcat. Another nice drive led by Hughes though.

39-14 w/10:30 left. SU breaks one for 79 yds on second play after int.

39-21 w/5:45 left. Looks like we might have found a new QB today.

45-21 w/3:10 to go.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 16, 2010, 03:42:49 PM
Final score Salisbury 45 - Huntingdon 21. 475 yds rushing for SU. Not much we could have done except it sounded like maybe tackle a little better. SU with 4 fumbles but we weren't able to recover any. Might have made a little difference if we could have gotten a couple of those.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 16, 2010, 05:22:38 PM
Another snoozer of a game for Wesley.  They Lead 28-0 at the end of the 1st quarter.  The second and third string was well excercised today and Wesley finished 52-3.  Well, the Wolverines have a bye week this next week and I know they will need to be on their game for Salisbury.  Luckily, the run game is a specialty for the Defensive line.  It will be a good one for sure!  No doubt that the Gulls will be pumped up.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 16, 2010, 10:28:46 PM
Well not really much to say after todays game. 576 yards of offense, while allowing 97 is always good. The penalties were down for the most part with more coming in the 4th quarter (8 of 72 yards). Interesting little stat though, one of the broadcasters on WDEL mentioned that Wesley was in the top 5 in scoring in D3 (I think at #3).

The only stat that is a little concerning is the 3 fumbles. I think it was LeGrand, Hopkins, and Cummings that made them but you gotta hang on to that football.

As for next week I have no idea what to do with myself.  ;) Maybe I'll head to Alliance or something to check out the Mount-Cap game. But, Salisbury is the week after, and looking at the HC-Salisbury stats, looks like SU optioned the Hawks to death. Only 30 passing yards for the Sea Gulls though. We'll see what Wesley does to stop them come October 30th.

And congrats to Coach Drass on his 150th win!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on October 17, 2010, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 16, 2010, 05:22:38 PM
Another snoozer of a game for Wesley.  They Lead 28-0 at the end of the 1st quarter.  The second and third string was well excercised today and Wesley finished 52-3.  Well, the Wolverines have a bye week this next week and I know they will need to be on their game for Salisbury.  Luckily, the run game is a specialty for the Defensive line.  It will be a good one for sure!  No doubt that the Gulls will be pumped up.

-Ski

Does Salisbury have a chance to upset Wesley, or is it just another stop along the way to the playoffs? :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 17, 2010, 05:40:13 PM
  If Salisbury  doesn't throw the ball they will be in trouble... The Gulls have come into this game before with great running games and been virtually shut down... And this years Wesley D might be better than those teams...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 17, 2010, 07:52:57 PM
raider68, no no no no chance, unless wesley lays an egg.  salisbury only scored 28 on hampden-sydney and after watching them play against bridgewater, their defense is not close to as good as wesley's d is.  if salisbury relies solely on the run which they have done in the last couple of games it will be a long day for them.  plus they have put the ball on the ground way too often, 4 or more times in almost every game.  should just be another step on the way to the playoffs, but that is why they play the games.  you just never know.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 17, 2010, 08:06:31 PM
Agreed. The Gulls are in trouble if they dont throw the football. I think the most they have in a game is 150ish. And if I recall, Wesleys pretty good at defending that ol' option that Salisbury runs. But you never know. We will see in one.... wait two weeks   :D... I hate bye weeks.  :(

Hawks88,

What ever happened to Plagenhoef? He started vs. Wesley. Did he get hurt or something?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 17, 2010, 11:11:37 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 17, 2010, 08:06:31 PM
Hawks88,

What ever happened to Plagenhoef? He started vs. Wesley. Did he get hurt or something?
I'm not sure he was ever really 100% from the injury and had started pressing. I think that with the losses mounting it was just time to see what the other guys can do.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on October 18, 2010, 09:53:21 AM
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 19, 2010, 08:15:33 PM
Wow....what do you do with yourself during a bye week? Mow the lawn?  See a movie?  Spend time with the family....It just isn't the same.   :-[

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 19, 2010, 09:19:03 PM
ski

  And you get another one after Salisbury!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 20, 2010, 02:39:07 PM
Well, since you have a bye week and our season isn't going well, let's talk about next year. Huntingdon has posted next year's schedule and it looks like a tough one:

http://www.huntingdon.edu/uploadedFiles/Athletics/Mens/Football/Schedule_and_Scores/2011FBschedule.pdf

What's the weather like in Dover in the middle of November?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 20, 2010, 04:33:57 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 20, 2010, 02:39:07 PM
Well, since you have a bye week and our season isn't going well, let's talk about next year. Huntingdon has posted next year's schedule and it looks like a tough one:

http://www.huntingdon.edu/uploadedFiles/Athletics/Mens/Football/Schedule_and_Scores/2011FBschedule.pdf

What's the weather like in Dover in the middle of November?

Wow, that was early!  You are correct with the games.  HSU and Wittenberg should be interesting.  In November, it is usually rainy and in the 40's or so.  But hey, with global warming, it could be 75 and sunny, right?

I would love to see Wesley go up against the likes of Wittenberg and St. John Fisher.  Even though Salisbury and Frostburg go to the Empire 8 next year, I think we will still be playing them regardless.  Schedule planning for Wesley is like a box of chocolates.  I know coach Drass welcomes any team to play, on their turf or Wesley's. 9 game schedules suck.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2010, 04:42:53 PM
Ski

Don't hold your breath on any E8  teams playing Wesley other than Frostburg and Salisbury.. Hartwick has the same open dates as Wesley this year and only nine games and they would NOT play Wesley. Even with costs included...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 20, 2010, 07:23:42 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2010, 04:42:53 PM
Ski

Don't hold your breath on any E8  teams playing Wesley other than Frostburg and Salisbury.. Hartwick has the same open dates as Wesley this year and only nine games and they would NOT play Wesley. Even with costs included...

Well, I wasn't planning on it, hehehe.....  I already know about Hartwick's 2-times in three years denial of playing Wesley.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on October 21, 2010, 10:01:04 AM
Personally, I would like to see a Wesley/Mount Union home & home series starting in the 2012 year.  The only catch with that is that Mount has one non-conference date, and historically plays that game as the first game of the season. 

It would give me a reason to come east and hang out with WesleyDad.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 21, 2010, 08:35:06 PM
skunks, that would be nice.  the early game would work for wesley as they should be able to move any game around, especially to play mount.  i dont know much about dover, but i am sure that i could find a place or 2 to go to, or you could stay near me outside of philly and i am sure i can find a good spot to hit before and after the game.  will be seeing you in 2 months at the stagg or maybe even sooner if that is the way it shakes out.  already have my hotel room reserved.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dlippiel on October 22, 2010, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2010, 04:42:53 PM
Ski

Don't hold your breath on any E8  teams playing Wesley other than Frostburg and Salisbury.. Hartwick has the same open dates as Wesley this year and only nine games and they would NOT play Wesley. Even with costs included...

dlip can tell you why...because they know they would get absolutely homoginized.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dlippiel on October 22, 2010, 10:11:18 AM
dlip is looking forward to seeing the Gulls bring their triple option offense to Shocktown (Schenectady) this Saturday. dlip has always had tremendous respect for the Gulls and their powerful ground game. He looks forward to them joining the E8 next near, which dlip feels, will bring more power and prestige to the East Region.

dlip wishes the Gulls safe travels on Saturday (Friday) and hopes the game is competitive and injury free. The Dutchmen are going to have to have their best day imaginable (of 2010) if they hope to compete with and have an opportunity to upset the Gulls. Best of luck to both teams. Union comes in the clear underdog even at home.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 22, 2010, 11:11:00 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 20, 2010, 04:33:57 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 20, 2010, 02:39:07 PM
Well, since you have a bye week and our season isn't going well, let's talk about next year. Huntingdon has posted next year's schedule and it looks like a tough one:

http://www.huntingdon.edu/uploadedFiles/Athletics/Mens/Football/Schedule_and_Scores/2011FBschedule.pdf

What's the weather like in Dover in the middle of November?

Wow, that was early!  You are correct with the games. HSU and Wittenberg should be interesting.  In November, it is usually rainy and in the 40's or so.  But hey, with global warming, it could be 75 and sunny, right?

I would love to see Wesley go up against the likes of Wittenberg and St. John Fisher.  Even though Salisbury and Frostburg go to the Empire 8 next year, I think we will still be playing them regardless.  Schedule planning for Wesley is like a box of chocolates.  I know coach Drass welcomes any team to play, on their turf or Wesley's. 9 game schedules suck.

-Ski
Respectfully, I must point out that Hampden-Sydney is the college.  Hardin-Simmons is the university.

That is a great schedule to establish a Pool B bid -- 7 in-region games.

All games except Faulkner, Webber International and UNO count as in-region.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 24, 2010, 10:51:35 AM
big game this week with salisbury.  looks like they threw the ball a little yesterday.  i am sure that the union d is not like wesley's but the gulls surely wanted to show that they will throw the ball.  bye week should help with the minor injuries and soreness.  should be a good game as the gulls always play tough.  wesley needs to win out to get a 1 seed somewhere.  umhb and hardin simmons look tough, but will likely play each other in week 1 of playoffs unless there is a way to avoid it.  i am not up on all the criteria for it, but i am not sure if there are 2 other teams within driving distance.  it would be a shame, but they would have to play each other in week 2 anyway if they both won.  i will be making the trip so ski i will see you and conrad.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 24, 2010, 08:26:23 PM
Salisbury next weekend looks like an interesting match-up. Looking at their Saturday box score, it looks like they got a lot of big play touchdowns. Their QB Griffin can run, and they still only threw the ball 5 times. But for about 130 yards on 2 completions. we'll see if Salisbury can make some changes that let them throw the ball more because Wesleys run defense will be tough and Salisbury wont be able to rely on the run as heavily as they did so far this season.

On Wesley's side of the ball, hopefully we keep going in the right direction, the team has played well up until this point so lets continue that trend. And I think the Bye Week helps them too. In terms of injuries and preparation. So, for Wesley hopefully they can solve that option and keep up their good play.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on October 24, 2010, 10:03:25 PM
WE have seen the Gulls twice this season,,the run game has been pretty tough this year. The loss to H S C
was due to some strange play calling at the end of the game(IMHO),,but what do I know. This could be a wild game,,will see you all there 8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on October 25, 2010, 09:02:02 AM
Jumping in here where I don't belong.  ;D

If you can't throw the ball with some consistency, you will NOT beat any of the top 7 or 8 teams in D-III.  At that level, the defenses are too good, and can gameplan to stop a "run only" offense.  I think that is the reason MHB has never been able to make that final jump to win a Stagg. 

Wesley is very strong against the run.........if Salisbury can't throw it, they lose by 2 or 3 touchdowns unless they also play lights out D.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on October 25, 2010, 12:03:13 PM
Skunk,,I do not belong in here either,,just an Ohio guy that moved to the east coast,,used to hang out in Alliance a lot  17 years or so,,watched every MUC game from 89 till 05,,and they could run and throw. Salisbury, can throw ,but when they HAD TO THROW they wer not really good at it.If they can run a Smooth game ,,then they  can pass well. We saw them loose to a good passing team.

If you are a strong option team as they are,,it is hard to get your scout o to give a good look of a passing
team because your players are used to running the option, not a lot of pass routes,,makes it a little harder to prepare

We have seen Wesley use a 3 man line vs option teams,,and have had good luck with their schemes vs salisbury's option(Georgia Tech/Navy style)

Should be a nice afternoon,,watching a good game,,similar to OAC caliber

Alot here will depend on the uncoachable things,,,,turnovers !!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 25, 2010, 06:55:35 PM
skunks, you are always welcome to jump in here and add something to the conversation.  i will vouch for your cred anytime.  i agree.  when given a time and knowing that the other team is limited at best to pass, most top teams can stop the run only game.  salisbury has not been able to hold onto the ball and lost to an average hampden sydney team, but a good d against the run team.  wesley is much better than that, faster and quicker, will make life miserable for the gulls.  if wesley plays a clean game they should win by 2 - 3 tds.  if the gulls dont play a clean game it will be much worse.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on October 25, 2010, 10:29:10 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 25, 2010, 06:55:35 PM
skunks, you are always welcome to jump in here and add something to the conversation.  i will vouch for your cred anytime.  i agree.  when given a time and knowing that the other team is limited at best to pass, most top teams can stop the run only game.  salisbury has not been able to hold onto the ball and lost to an average hampden sydney team, but a good d against the run team.  wesley is much better than that, faster and quicker, will make life miserable for the gulls.  if wesley plays a clean game they should win by 2 - 3 tds.  if the gulls dont play a clean game it will be much worse.

Wesley wins by 4 TD's against Salisbury and will be the #1 seed in the South, IMHO! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 26, 2010, 01:23:26 AM
Quote from: Raider 68 on October 25, 2010, 10:29:10 PM

Wesley wins by 4 TD's against Salisbury and will be the #1 seed in the South, IMHO! :)



Quite the prediction!  I certainly hope it turns out that way.  However, remember that this is a rivalry and while I believe that Wesley willl handle Salisbury's run like it has in the past, I expect the Gulls to come into the game fired up.  They have all to gain in this game.  I also expect them to mix things up.  If there is one thing I have seen this year, is that teams facing Wesley really mixed things up in their play books in attempts to keep the defense off balanced.  Salisbury is about as one dimensional as a team can get, so they have their work cut out for them if they want to do the same.  However, heart and a couple Wesley mistakes can go a long way.

  Now let's see the Defensive line work it's magic against the option.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2010, 08:32:43 PM
I'm just coming off of the rankings shock.... Anyways, the Wesley players are really biting at the bit having the bye week behind them.  The weekend weather looks like beautiful football weather with a high of 61 and partly cloudy.  It should be a very good game....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 27, 2010, 09:33:24 PM
the rankings are a joke.  hampden sydney is nowhere near the top team in the south.  wesley at 3, hardin simmons at 8.  it is a shame that if things dont work themselves out, wesley will not get the 1 seed they deserve.  good weather for the game is nice, but i am sure the wind will be blowing in salisbury, just not as bad a wesley.  i will try to fing you ski.  go wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2010, 09:53:12 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 27, 2010, 09:33:24 PM
the rankings are a joke.  hampden sydney is nowhere near the top team in the south.  wesley at 3, hardin simmons at 8.  it is a shame that if things dont work themselves out, wesley will not get the 1 seed they deserve.  good weather for the game is nice, but i am sure the wind will be blowing in salisbury, just not as bad a wesley.  i will try to fing you ski.  go wolverines.

Well, excuse me if I don't fing you.  I will look for you, though, hehehehe.... :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 28, 2010, 03:38:20 PM
Im going to have to disagree with the rankings here. Wesley at 3? Really? And Mount and Whitewater are in the same boat (2 or 3). Whats up with that? Hopefully things will shake out though.

And now for some dumb questions  ;D These rankings, do they directly affect playoff seeding? And how are they figured? (I know it has something to do with the strength of schedule and in-region games and like I said these are dumb questions  ;))
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on October 28, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 28, 2010, 03:38:20 PM
Im going to have to disagree with the rankings here. Wesley at 3? Really? And Mount and Whitewater are in the same boat (2 or 3). Whats up with that? Hopefully things will shake out though.

And now for some dumb questions  ;D These rankings, do they directly affect playoff seeding? And how are they figured? (I know it has something to do with the strength of schedule and in-region games and like I said these are dumb questions  ;))

http://www.d3football.com/interactive/faq/playoffs (http://www.d3football.com/interactive/faq/playoffs)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 28, 2010, 10:01:07 PM
wow, where are the gull backers?  awfully quiet here.  this is a big game for them, a win and they likely make the playoffs, a loss and they are out.  i know there are not many of us in here, but come on guys step up.  i need to find a good tailgate to hit before the game.  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 28, 2010, 11:40:56 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 28, 2010, 10:01:07 PM
wow, where are the gull backers?  awfully quiet here.  this is a big game for them, a win and they likely make the playoffs, a loss and they are out.  i know there are not many of us in here, but come on guys step up.  i need to find a good tailgate to hit before the game.  :D

Yeah, that could be bad.  Wesleydad without a tailgate party........They better beef up security.   :-\

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on October 29, 2010, 08:31:50 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 27, 2010, 09:33:24 PM
the rankings are a joke.  hampden sydney is nowhere near the top team in the south.  wesley at 3, hardin simmons at 8.  it is a shame that if things dont work themselves out, wesley will not get the 1 seed they deserve.  good weather for the game is nice, but i am sure the wind will be blowing in salisbury, just not as bad a wesley.  i will try to fing you ski.  go wolverines.

Wesleydad,

Agree, Hopefully they will be realistic in the next few weeks! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 29, 2010, 02:51:53 PM
Some of us are still here! :D....I have only seen my Gulls one time this year,(Huntinddon) and I liked what I saw. I think they are better at some key positions, especially QB, than last year's team. While the offense has put up some gaudy numbers against some opponents, it is the defense that seems to be better overall. They are pretty tough with a couple of good young linebackers and DBs, and a nice d-line. I have not seen Wesley this year, but judging by what they have done I feel that SU faces a uphill battle Saturday. However, I do feel that this is their best shot at beating WC since (I think '07) team that lost 20-13. As always, may all the players come out healthy and GO GULLS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on October 30, 2010, 04:59:44 PM
DAMN!....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 30, 2010, 07:19:12 PM
just returned from salisbury.  first thing to get out of the way, that may have been the worst officiated game i have seen in a long time.  somehow it didnt have much to do with the outcome, except the horible block in the back call on the wesley td.  after the first 2 salisbury drives the d totally shut them down.  great effort.  on the other side of the ball.  work to be done.  Sottilaire did not have a good game, but i think the play calling had a lot to do with it.  11 - 30, with at least 7 passes attempted longer than 30 yards.  salisbury's d backs were at least 10 yards off the line of scrimmage and wesley never attempted to establish the short pass before throwing it deep.  tough to run by a guy with a 10 yard head start.  There were also 3 or 4 drops.  a sure td on a fumble return gets stripped at the goal line and turns into a touch back, another fumble that wesley failed to recover after 2 players tried to pick it up and run with it and you can see how the game went.  just a really sloppy game.  wesley got the win, but it wasnt pretty.  special props go out to the salisbury qb who took a beating all game but kept getting up.  bye week and then kean, time to get things fixed for the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 30, 2010, 07:40:38 PM
Wow, what a game.  I agree with the officiating.  That touchback was clearly a TD from the camera platform.  The officials were well behind the play.

Wesley's day went like this play:

The defense solved SU's option and really started to get into the backfield by the second quarter.  This resulted in several fumbles on the pitchout.  This play was one of those.  Anyways, the running back fumbles the ball and two Wolverines go after it.  This was around SU's 20 or so.  After screwing around with the ball, there is a scrum that forms.  At the end of the clearing of the scrum, a flag is thrown.  SU gets the ball, Wesley gets the personal foul.  Instead of Wesley's ball at the 15, it is SU's ball at about the 30 with a new set of downs.  ARGGHHH!!!!!!  

The second time around, the running back loses the ball and Marcus Wilson grabs it on the run, gets tackled at the goaline and fumbles the ball into the endzone.  Touchback, although he was clearly over the line.  ARRGGH!!!!

Brandon Wright was hurt in the first half and his return in the fourth really got the offense going again.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 30, 2010, 07:43:53 PM
Hats off to the Wolverine defence today.  They really did a job on SU's quarterback, including the hardest hit I have seen this year.  He got pulverized on a run in the first half.  The hit completely reversed his direction and shot him what seemed almost 5 yards in the opposite direction.  Amazing.

Once again, Wesley got a guts check and made it through alive.  

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 30, 2010, 08:09:16 PM
I was just reading the recap.  You talk about an adjustment on Defense:

"Salisbury piled up 124 rushing yards in the opening quarter, the Wolverines surrendered just 40 more yards on 36 carries in the final 45 minutes - an average of just over one yard per carry."

That's pretty good!

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 30, 2010, 08:34:21 PM
Possibly the best played game of the year by Huntingdon today. Couldn't be prouder of this team the way they have come through the 4 game losing streak and QB issues and kept working to get back on track. Seems like the whole team was playing with a different energy than earlier in the season. Neal Posey did an excellent job at QB in his third start tying a school record with 6 TD passes. Hopefully we can get by LaGrange to finish at 6-4 and end on a positive streak.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 30, 2010, 09:34:30 PM
ski, just didnt make sense to me.  trying to throw the ball down the field when their d backs were bailing on almost every play.  the drops really looked bad today, several may have gone for good gains.  i figured the wind would have had some effect on the play calling also.  it was blowing pretty good at times which i am sure you know from your perch atop the press box.  it was nice to see the d adjust and make plays.  they may see a similar offense if they play umhb.  hoping to see a clean game against kean in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 31, 2010, 01:46:23 AM
  Maybe some of those hard headed recievers weren't running their hitches!!! You figure that  Norwood 49 run into the that total and Wesley again shut down Salisbury's option...

With the case Western loss and a game with Wash U .Next week Salisbury should still be on the B bid talks. Wesley and SUNY Maritime
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 31, 2010, 09:11:11 AM
pawesley, i did not see many hitches being run at all.  there was one occasion where kraut turned in, toward the coverage, but sottilaire read it correctly and threw outside with the ball landing 5 yards away from kraut with no one else within 10 yards of it, would have been an easy pitch and catch if they were on the same page.  this game reminded of the offense from a couple of years ago with jason and beavers.  3rd and 5 or 6 and the routes are 20 yards down the field.  i agree that the receivers dont always do what it looks like they should.  the first interception was more the receiver not going to and fighting for the ball then a bad throw, at least that was the consensus of the people around me.  but we were not surprised as it was not in the end zone for a td, but in the middle of the field.  most receivers run what they are told especially with how the o coord deals with ones that dont, so i have to think that the plays were designed that way.  must have been something they saw on film, but there was no adjustment once it was obvious what salisbury was doing.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on October 31, 2010, 11:57:15 AM
The first interception was also thown into a strong crossfield wind that brought the ball back in some and caused it to float a little. I thought it was a strange call into that wind.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 01, 2010, 06:03:37 PM
Well. Defense was great. Offense sounded okay on their scoring drives, I cant really comment on that because I was not there. Just seemed like an off day, no real flow on the offensive side of the ball, which happens, from the bye week, but the bad news is that we got another coming up. Then Kean the week after. Hopefully Wesley can sharpen up some more before Kean and the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 01, 2010, 09:54:35 PM
glad to see wesley jump to 5 in sos, that should give them a chance to jump either umhb or hs in the region rankings.  there is no doubt in my mind that they should be a 1 in the south.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 01, 2010, 10:20:25 PM
Hampden-Sydney should get a pretty good boost in SOS if they can beat Washington & Lee and Randolph-Macon the next two weeks. Could be very interesting when it comes down to that number one seed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on November 02, 2010, 10:24:13 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 01, 2010, 09:54:35 PM
glad to see wesley jump to 5 in sos, that should give them a chance to jump either umhb or hs in the region rankings.  there is no doubt in my mind that they should be a 1 in the south.

Wesleydad,

Some posts ago, I mentioned that Wesley would win by 4 TD's over Salisbury which did not happen. My question going into this post season is : How do you see this year's Wesley team vs. last year?  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 02, 2010, 11:34:29 AM
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 02, 2010, 01:07:44 PM
Ahh, it was nice to see Chris Mayes in the statistical spotlight this week.  He definately did the job on the Gulls Saturday.  Well done!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 02, 2010, 01:37:24 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 02, 2010, 01:07:44 PM
Ahh, it was nice to see Chris Mayes in the statistical spotlight this week.  He definately did the job on the Gulls Saturday.  Well done!

-Ski

You might even get to hear a little of what he had to say about the game in this week's Around the Mid-Atlantic ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 02, 2010, 01:54:57 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on November 02, 2010, 10:24:13 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 01, 2010, 09:54:35 PM
glad to see wesley jump to 5 in sos, that should give them a chance to jump either umhb or hs in the region rankings.  there is no doubt in my mind that they should be a 1 in the south.

Wesleydad,

Some posts ago, I mentioned that Wesley would win by 4 TD's over Salisbury which did not happen. My question going into this post season is : How do you see this year's Wesley team vs. last year?  :)

IMHO.
The defense stacks up just as well as last year, missing just the tackles and a corner (injured.)

The offense has been devastated by injuries at QB, TE, Slot but still has enough play-makers to be dangerous. The new QB had done a solid job, continues to improve and bounced back from a 3-of-18 1st half (a few drops) to go 8-of-12 in the second half.

They struggled at points on Saturday due to penalties, a few dropped balls, missed assignments and a good Salisbury defense. RB Brandon Wright was out after the first series with an injury, but returned in the 4th quarter to help key the winning drive and running out the clock.

They had a TD called back on a reverse for a block in the back that you will have a hard time finding on  film. The defense also appeared to have scored on a fumble return but it was called a fumble out of the end zone though neither official hustled back to the goal line to be in position to make the call. If those calls go Wesley's way then the game's score is probably pretty similar with the last couple years.

How about the Raiders?

Seaman was not real impressive against the Wolverines last season in the semifinal. I saw a little of the Capital game and he appears much more confident and productive. How is he progressing/developing? And when does Shorts get back?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on November 02, 2010, 02:43:58 PM
Conrad,

Thanks for your post and comments +K! :)

From your comments Wesley this year may not be as strong offensively for the reasons you mention, but when you lose your starting QB, several things change.

As your recall the Raiders lost QB Rocco against Wesley and Seaman was not effective but Cecil was. (thankfully)

On Seaman, he has developed very weill and his numbers reflect that, leads the OAC in passing through 8 games, but he is still only a sophomore. He makes good decisions and will be a good one. He has matured and assuming Mount makes the playoffs ( very likely) he will be fine. The running game (Murray) leads the OAC (rushing per game) has helped and a top group of receivers helps.

On Cecil Shorts, he will be ready for the playoffs and maybe this week against B-W. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 02, 2010, 06:38:37 PM
raider68, i would agree with conrad's explanation of the team's outlook heading into the playoffs.  the defense will keep them in most games unless the offense is so bad or has multiple turnovers.  i think the defense may even be better than last year, seem to be quicker.

conrad, i know hampden sydney will improve sos with their upcoming games, but i would hope that wesley would get the nod over them for the 1 seed.  having seen both teams, i believe wesley is better all around, but they dont ask me.

i want to see how the team plays against kean after the bye week.  kean will be tough and a good game pre playoffs.  will also get an idea of how good the njac is in the east debate of how many teams should get in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 02, 2010, 11:42:31 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 02, 2010, 01:37:24 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 02, 2010, 01:07:44 PM
Ahh, it was nice to see Chris Mayes in the statistical spotlight this week.  He definately did the job on the Gulls Saturday.  Well done!

-Ski

You might even get to hear a little of what he had to say about the game in this week's Around the Mid-Atlantic ;)

A very nice article Ryan!  Well done!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 03, 2010, 12:06:17 AM
Quote from: Teamski on November 02, 2010, 11:42:31 PM
A very nice article Ryan!  Well done!

-Ski

Thanks, ski! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 03, 2010, 08:43:30 PM
Well looks like the South Region rankings have shapened up. Wesleys on top but we will see after the playoffs come out. Its a little surprising that Mounts #3 in the north and UWWs #2 in the West.

Another bye this week, thats annoying  >:( Hopefully we can get a 10 game schedule next year though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 06, 2010, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 03, 2010, 08:43:30 PM
Well looks like the South Region rankings have shapened up. Wesleys on top but we will see after the playoffs come out. Its a little surprising that Mounts #3 in the north and UWWs #2 in the West.

Another bye this week, thats annoying  >:( Hopefully we can get a 10 game schedule next year though.

Yep!  Another painful week without a Wesley game!  Oh well.   :'(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 06, 2010, 08:39:10 PM
Huntingdon let this one get a little close for comfort today. 35-28 win after being comfortably ahead 35-7 at the half. Just came out flat in the 2nd half, let LaGrange get a couple scores to get back in it and get the momentum and was just hanging on for life at the end.
Nice finish to the season by winning the last three. We lose some good people but also had plenty of good young talent to get significant experience this year. If we can get everybody back next year, I think we might have a chance to make some noise next season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 07, 2010, 08:44:38 AM
one week left.  i thought that kean might be a challenge with a top running back, but they were shut out yesterday and the back was held under 100 yards by college of new jersey.  i dont think their run d is as good as wesley's so it might not be a close game.  i am looking for the offense to show better then they did against salisbury.  as things break down after yesterday, it looks like there is a good chance that wesley will get cnu in the first round.  cnu has improved, but i dont think the game would be any closer then the first time.  see you next saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on November 09, 2010, 04:24:59 PM
wesleydad,

Does everyone on this board think Wesley will be the #1 seed in the South or East? :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 09, 2010, 08:10:04 PM
raider68, not sure about anyone else, but i dont see how they are not.  the strength of schedule is good and will not take much of a hit playing kean.  i know they are short on region games, but no one else has been that impressive to be placed above them.  they are 1 in the regional rankings also.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 10, 2010, 02:30:03 PM
We've got Regional Rankings... Final time for the season that we'll see them:

http://d3blogs.com/d3football/2010/11/10/ncaas-third-regional-rankings/
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 10, 2010, 09:27:08 PM
been a pretty good discussion going on in the pool b thread.  looks like there is a better than good chance that salisbury may get the last pool b bid.  2 losses is usually a death nell to getting into the playoffs, but with only 2 teams undefeated and no others with one loss the gulls have a shot.  would be good way for the acfc to go out, 2 teams in the playoffs.  if they get in and shipped east, they have a real good shot at winning a game as the east is not very strong.  the gulls wont be an 8 seed and have to play mount who is almost certainly getting shipped to the east also.

Wesley has a game this week that i was looking forward to seeing until kean got shut out last week.  i still want to see if the offense can get it going and kean should be a good test the week before the playoffs.  no turnovers and this will be a win, dont let a team stay in the game by giving them the ball.  then wait for sunday and the brackets.  now it starts to get fun, a chance for a good game every week, if not in dover then somewhere else within driving distance.  see you on saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 11, 2010, 02:56:14 PM
Yeah, I'm getting pumped up!  The weather is going to be a perfect, sunny 62 degrees.  I know the players are just jumpin' to go.  They are going to be perfectly rested after this week.  Booyeah!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 13, 2010, 04:54:02 PM
Another perfect season. Now we will see tomorrow where exactly Wesley stands.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 13, 2010, 08:18:12 PM
if ever you could call something a sloppy route, this was it.  Wesley's offense needs to tighten things up if they want to win the stagg bowl.  the int was woefully underthrown and the fumbles could have hurt.  good thing kean has no offense, or wesley has a very good defense.   take you pick.  the south bracket could get a little easier with the lose by hardin simmons leaving only one texas team left.  in the past, if i recall, umhb has been shipped west when that has happened.  if so then wesley should be a strong favorite to win the south region.  looking forward to how the brackets shake out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 13, 2010, 08:59:50 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 13, 2010, 08:18:12 PM
if ever you could call something a sloppy route, this was it.  Wesley's offense needs to tighten things up if they want to win the stagg bowl.  the int was woefully underthrown and the fumbles could have hurt.  good thing kean has no offense, or wesley has a very good defense.   take you pick.  the south bracket could get a little easier with the lose by hardin simmons leaving only one texas team left.  in the past, if i recall, umhb has been shipped west when that has happened.  if so then wesley should be a strong favorite to win the south region.  looking forward to how the brackets shake out tomorrow.

Well, it was a slow start but Wesley laid out over 500 yards of offense including over 200 on the ground.  I think they did pretty good coming off of a bye week.  Yea, they had some turnovers but they had only 4 penalties! I think Wesley will be doing just fine once they get a string of games going.  Sottilaire and Wright did really well today and the defense....well, they did what they do best!  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 13, 2010, 11:10:09 PM
 Since the first team O had only played about 8 quarters in the last 5 week before today and after the come down off the Salisbury game I think the boys looked real good after the first two series. Also thought that the coaches kept the players under control today only one bad penalty and that was the spike after the TD
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 14, 2010, 08:50:22 AM
teamski and pawesley, all points are true and i am glad to see the penalties were only 4 and i am not sure if the spike penalty should have even been called.  i guess we are looking at things differently.  the mistakes made early in a game against a team that could win the stagg bowl would likely have put wesley in a 10 - 0 or 14 -0 nothing whole which would be hard to climb out of.  starting next week they dont have the luxury of playing a string of games, they get one at a time, i would agree that they are likely to be tougher to beat should they keep winning since the 2 bye weeks hurt at the end of the season.  this is a very good team that has a chance to go far, at least the semis, and the mistakes will be the downfall if they occur, just want to see the o play a cleaner, crisper game.  see you next saturday for the likely rematch with cnu.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 14, 2010, 03:44:25 PM
Well lets see if the boys can make the run at home!!!!! First up the Mules... Should be a huge crowd !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 14, 2010, 04:12:46 PM
Congrats Wesley and Salisbury for making the big dance

Wesley - wow get to dance in Dover all the way .... :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 14, 2010, 04:57:31 PM
what a surprise.  the #1 overall seed is fantastic, way to go coach drass for scheduling a tough enough schedule.  one game at a time is how it has to be.  having seen muhlenberg, they are not as good as the teams wesley beat in the playoffs 2 and 3 years ago.  offensively, they have a gutsy qb and a small, gutsy running back.  i believe they will have trouble scoring on wesley unless wesley gives them a short field.  if they win that, the winner of the montclaire st/ hampden sydney game will be a contrast - montclaire has a strong d, suspect o; hampden who i did see play has potential on o, but a suspect d.  both teams will have trouble scoring more than 14.  if umhb wins their side, that will make for a nice quarterfinal game.  no worry of a trip to freezing whitewater this year, that region comes to dover if the wolverines keep winning.  if you are a wolverine fan and not excited at how things turned out then you dont have a pulse or are not really a fan.  this could be a great year for the team to take the next step to the stagg.  knocking on the door is not good enough anymore.  one game at a time, get it done.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on November 14, 2010, 04:58:07 PM
WoW........WesleyDad.......I love you man...but Wesley the #1 overall seed......ummm.....no way.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 14, 2010, 05:02:13 PM
skunks, you will not a get an argument from me about that statement.  i figured the 3 was going to be right and another possible trip to alliance.  not sure why it turned out that way, but they have to take advantage of it.  nothing will be easy.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on November 14, 2010, 05:11:58 PM
Hey I am with you.......this is set up as good as possible for Wesley.  If they are going to make it to Salem, this is the year. 

The issue is going to be a UWW team that has just a tiny bit more motivation than they would normally have (like they need anything else), and their their outright lack of respect towards Wesley due to previous meetings. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 14, 2010, 05:17:46 PM
skunks, so true.  almost looks like the commitee said, ok lets see if someone/s else can change the stagg bowl from being another uwww/mount game.  many teams have been given a chance to do it with this bracket, now lets see if someone steps up and gets it done.

I think wesley earned some respect from the mount faithful with the effort the gave last year, but until you get on the field with uwww and give them a game, they will always have a lack of respect.  defensively this team will give anyone trouble, as you have read my concern is with the offense.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 14, 2010, 05:29:10 PM
Yeah, how's that for a bit of history making?  Well done Wesley!!!!!  That strength of schedule did the trick!  And I don't have to travel to Wisconsin or Ohio this year!  Yay!!

Well, onto the playoffs.  I have a good feeling about this year.  When the games start rolling in, the players are really going to settle down and get warmed up.  It has been awesome seeing players step up for those injured and make  the season what its been so far.  Sottilaire has exceeded all expectations and the defense looks like it is the best I have seen so far.  Leonard Stevenson has had one heck of a year and really stood out!

So, we meet Muhlenburg once again....... See you there Saturday!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 14, 2010, 05:33:59 PM
Man, if Wesley wasn't playing, I would definately love to watch the Delaware Valley/Salisbury game.  That is going to be a good one!!


Congrads to the Gulls for making the big show!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 14, 2010, 05:39:38 PM
teamski, i saw both teams play and if they are both healthy i think delval wins the game.  gordanmann, the announcer for delval, stated that there must have been some injuries on defense at the end of the game against widener.  if that is true then the option will give them trouble and salisbury has a chance.  delval is tough as you saw in the wesley game.  yes, i will see you saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 14, 2010, 05:45:42 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on November 14, 2010, 04:58:07 PM
WoW........WesleyDad.......I love you man...but Wesley the #1 overall seed......ummm.....no way.

Well, I don't agree with you on this one.  If you look at the seedings objectively and if the commitee used the SOS as the basis of the seeding, then what is the issue?  Is MU automatically supposed to be the #1 seed just because?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SU Backer on November 14, 2010, 05:56:51 PM
CONGRATS TO SALISBURY ON THEIR PLAYOFF BID!.......Tough draw going on the road to DelVal, but these guys have risen to the occasion all year so Go Gulls!...I always wanted to see Mount Union in person and if they can get past the 1st round it looks like we will...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on November 14, 2010, 06:00:47 PM
Nope...not Mount at all.  UWW should have been the #1 seed.....period.  

Since the awesome committee decided they didn't even deserve a #1 seed, I guess anything is possible.  I know everyone says that prior years don't count, but in my eyes, they definitely do.  Until Wesley beats UWW or Mount, if all are undefeated then Wesley isn't the overall #1 seed.  

SOS is just not a good way to seed #1's, especially when you have Mount who can only play one game outside of conference, and therefore is subject to whatever the strength of that conference happens to be in any given year.  And, for UWW you have a situation where NO ONE will play them in D-III, so they are subject to playing NAIA teams in the area.  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 14, 2010, 06:09:28 PM
 Sorry Skunks but as tough as it is for UWW to get games try filling out Wesleys schedule every year. And now even more so without any conference foes..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 14, 2010, 07:59:01 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on November 14, 2010, 06:00:47 PM
Nope...not Mount at all.  UWW should have been the #1 seed.....period.  

Since the awesome committee decided they didn't even deserve a #1 seed, I guess anything is possible.  I know everyone says that prior years don't count, but in my eyes, they definitely do.  Until Wesley beats UWW or Mount, if all are undefeated then Wesley isn't the overall #1 seed.  

SOS is just not a good way to seed #1's, especially when you have Mount who can only play one game outside of conference, and therefore is subject to whatever the strength of that conference happens to be in any given year.  And, for UWW you have a situation where NO ONE will play them in D-III, so they are subject to playing NAIA teams in the area.  

Welcome to the club, buddy.  Why do you think Wesley only had 9 games this season?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on November 14, 2010, 08:09:35 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 14, 2010, 07:59:01 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on November 14, 2010, 06:00:47 PM
Nope...not Mount at all.  UWW should have been the #1 seed.....period.  

Since the awesome committee decided they didn't even deserve a #1 seed, I guess anything is possible.  I know everyone says that prior years don't count, but in my eyes, they definitely do.  Until Wesley beats UWW or Mount, if all are undefeated then Wesley isn't the overall #1 seed.  

SOS is just not a good way to seed #1's, especially when you have Mount who can only play one game outside of conference, and therefore is subject to whatever the strength of that conference happens to be in any given year.  And, for UWW you have a situation where NO ONE will play them in D-III, so they are subject to playing NAIA teams in the area.  

Welcome to the club, buddy.  Why do you think Wesley only had 9 games this season?

-Ski

Yep Team......I am aware of that.  I would love to see Wesley in the NJAC or some other new conference.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MasterJedi on November 15, 2010, 03:05:01 PM
Since I haven't heard anything what are Wesley's plans conference wise? Are they likely to stay in a two team conference and fight over a likely one remaining Pool B slot or will they try and join another conference?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 15, 2010, 03:11:55 PM
they will be an independent next year.  as far as joining another conference, i believe the effort has been there but the fit is not since it is more then just about football.  there seems to be the 100 player cap in some leagues which doesnt allow wesley to fit as one example i am aware of.  would be nice not to have to worry about filling a schedule, i think they will be in the same boat as uwww next year and have to schedule naia teams to complete the schedule.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MasterJedi on November 15, 2010, 03:19:26 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 15, 2010, 03:11:55 PM
they will be an independent next year.  as far as joining another conference, i believe the effort has been there but the fit is not since it is more then just about football.  there seems to be the 100 player cap in some leagues which doesnt allow wesley to fit as one example i am aware of.  would be nice not to have to worry about filling a schedule, i think they will be in the same boat as uwww next year and have to schedule naia teams to complete the schedule.

Even though it's not in region UWW is always looking!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 15, 2010, 05:10:15 PM
master, that i know is an option.  i think the issue is the travel budget which would take a hit.  wesley had several long bus trips this year, where in previous years they might have flown.  belt tightening all around just like the wiac schools thinking about playing or already playing someone twice to save cash.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: long time fan on November 15, 2010, 05:53:21 PM





some people seem to be casting aspersions about wesleys offense! Here is a team theat lost three of their top offensve players. The strength of their recruiting and coaching and adjusting to the talent that have has been great.  My hats off to those players that ride the pine. As far as their being ranked No#1. You still have to run the board. It could be that someone on the selection committee didn't want to see the semifinals being played at the ice rink in Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 15, 2010, 06:57:48 PM
long time, welcome.  as far as concerns about the offense, you hit it on the head, can they replace 3 of their top players and go deep into the playoffs?  there is little question that the defense will be tough on anyone, can the offense play a clean game that allows the d to do its job and give them the ball back time and again.  turnovers are the achillies heel for any team.  go deeper into the playoffs and you have to limit them.  there have been times this year that the d had to save the o due to turnovers against 2 very good teams they played this year, delval and salisbury, both playoff teams.  if the o can play a clean game, they may just make the final step that they have been hoping for for the last 6 years.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 16, 2010, 08:41:15 PM
Well I cannot wait for this Saturday! Dont think I'll be making it out though. Hopefully Wesley can get a W so I can make it next week.

You guys are exactly right. Lets see if Wesley can recover from the loss of its three best offensive players, and keep the ball rolling from where they left off at Kean which was a game they played extremely well minus the first two possessions.

And as far as the #1 Overall seed goes. Great job 2010 Wolverines. Now you have to prove it. Theres gonna be a big old bullseye on the Wolverines this year. Hopefully they can defend Scott D. Miller Stadium like they have all season.

Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 16, 2010, 09:19:06 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 16, 2010, 08:41:15 PM
You guys are exactly right. Lets see if Wesley can recover from the loss of its three best offensive players, and keep the ball rolling from where they left off at Kean which was a game they played extremely well minus the first two possessions.


I think that Wesley has already proven that it has recovered if you consider the yardage the team has achieved on offense this year.  Sure, there were slow games, but hey, there have been offensively slow games in each of the last couple seasons.  If Wesley can keep the mistakes to a minimum (of which I think they can with a string of games to get back into the swing of things) they should be able to do what they need to do to score.  The defense will always be there.

It's gonna be yet another beautiful day for a game on Saturday: partly cloudy and 60 degrees!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 16, 2010, 09:42:29 PM
this week should be a good week for wesley.  muhlenberg, who i saw play 2 weeks ago is not as good as they were the last 2 times wesley met them in the playoffs.  wesley should be able to move the ball running or passing and i believe score at least 30, likely more.  i think muhlenberg will have trouble scoring, they are small and have average speed on offense.  no mistakes and this game could be just like last week.  one game at a time, but i cant help but be looking ahead to 12/11 and a possible matchup with uwww.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2010, 09:56:13 PM
 This ride through the south is going to be hard fought.. There are some very good teams waitng to beat Wesley. But if they play like they have all year they should be able to play through the tough times and get that shot at the semi finals at home... If I am not mistaken Wesley has only lost at home twice since the turf was put down.. Once to UMHB and once to Montclair.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on November 17, 2010, 08:37:19 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2010, 09:56:13 PM
This ride through the south is going to be hard fought.. There are some very good teams waitng to beat Wesley. But if they play like they have all year they should be able to play through the tough times and get that shot at the semi finals at home... If I am not mistaken Wesley has only lost at home twice since the turf was put down.. Once to UMHB and once to Montclair.

PA_wesleyfan,

Mary Hardin Baylor will be Wesley's toughest game before they see UWW, IMHO! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on November 17, 2010, 02:29:09 PM
I have been more than a little critical of the selection committee for omitting UW-W from receiving a #1 seed. In the midst of the controversy and the venting, one thing should be clearly stated:

CONGRATULATIONS WESLEY WOLVERINES ON A FANTASTIC SEASON!   :)

The players and coaches didn't seed themselves #1, they just showed up and played.  Good luck in the upcoming playoffs (at least until Dec. 11)  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 17, 2010, 06:39:28 PM
well thanks bleedpurple, nice to see someone step up and not attack the teams that had nothing to do with the seeding other than as you said, show up and play.  i, too, hope for a nice run in the playoffs, but dont want it to end on dec 11, but around 700 on dec 18 with the stagg bowl championship.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on November 17, 2010, 07:09:00 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 17, 2010, 06:39:28 PM
well thanks bleedpurple, nice to see someone step up and not attack the teams that had nothing to do with the seeding other than as you said, show up and play.  i, too, hope for a nice run in the playoffs, but dont want it to end on dec 11, but around 700 on dec 18 with the stagg bowl championship.

Bleed has done so much attacking in the previous days he's out of ammunition.  Guess he's now trying to kill you with pleasantries......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 17, 2010, 07:15:16 PM
Raider 68

I am cautiously optomistic.. Welsey has the ability to play with anyone. But last year I saw the Hopkins game in a miserable sleeting mes and it was an equalizer. I don't think we have to comment on the Wesley injuries that happened earlier in the season because the replacements have played as well or better than anyone could have asked for. The only notable difference  is the use of the tight end. And that may be the game planing more than anything else.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on November 17, 2010, 10:46:06 PM
WesleyDad!

You know where I stand on Wesley's chances.  It's not about talent, it's about coaching, specifically on the offensive side of the ball.  Wesley's defense can compete on a national scale, but the offense will be the do or die component of the Wesley run to the Stagg. 

NO JUMP PASSES!   ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 18, 2010, 11:28:22 AM
skunks, as i said earlier, wesley gained some respect from the mount people by their play last year, but left something missing.  you and i are in agreement, the offense will have to step up to reach the stagg.  the mount folk had many questions about what the offense was trying to do last year, the jump pass included, which leads to the questioning of the coaching, not the players.  i am looking forward to the playoffs as i think they can beat most teams, but most teams dont make it to the stagg bowl, only a few do.  can wesley become one of the few, we shall see.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 18, 2010, 02:02:21 PM
Agreed that Wesley's offense will be the key to how far the travel this postseason. Not sure about the coach bashing. Mount just whipped the Wolverine O on the line last year IMO. They were better.

The jump pass was poorly executed, but I think that Wesley OC Chip Knapp has a pretty good record over the past 20 years of moving the football and scoring points. If it was thrown higher, I'll take my chances with McAndrew at 6'4 240, coming down with it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on November 18, 2010, 04:02:42 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 18, 2010, 11:28:22 AM
skunks, as i said earlier, wesley gained some respect from the mount people by their play last year, but left something missing.  you and i are in agreement, the offense will have to step up to reach the stagg.  the mount folk had many questions about what the offense was trying to do last year, the jump pass included, which leads to the questioning of the coaching, not the players.  i am looking forward to the playoffs as i think they can beat most teams, but most teams dont make it to the stagg bowl, only a few do.  can wesley become one of the few, we shall see.

wesleydad,

If  Wesley does meet Mary Hardin Baylor, then it will be Wesley's D against MHB high scoring offense. Wesley is rated #13 in scoring defense at 11.8 pts per game. MHB is ranked 69th at 20.3 pts per game. The Raiders by the way are #2 at 7.9 pts per game. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2010, 04:12:56 PM
I am wary of a team with great athletes, especially in the specialists, causing problems for UMHB.

McMurry gave up almost 20 points on special teams in their 11-point loss to UMHB, and Louisiana College had a pass intercepted in the endzone, 4th and goal from the 2 yd line in under a minute.

Those games were early in the season.  UMHB has not had a challenge from a strong ASC team since a 34-28 win over ETBU on Oct 23rd in OT.

The most characteristic thing about UMHB this season is that they have shown that they know how to win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 18, 2010, 04:46:05 PM
Quote from: Conrad on November 18, 2010, 02:02:21 PM
Agreed that Wesley's offense will be the key to how far the travel this postseason. Not sure about the coach bashing. Mount just whipped the Wolverine O on the line last year IMO. They were better.

The jump pass was poorly executed, but I think that Wesley OC Chip Knapp has a pretty good record over the past 20 years of moving the football and scoring points. If it was thrown higher, I'll take my chances with McAndrew at 6'4 240, coming down with it.

Agreed there. Mounts line was dominant over the Wolverines o line. It seemed McSweeny was on the run most of the time. But thats the past.

Looking ahead to Muhlenberg.... if the Wolverines do what they do they should come out on top. Hopefully the weather is better over there. Its gonna be cold and dreary down here.

Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 18, 2010, 05:53:46 PM
  If the coaching is so bad I don't think Wesley would be in the position they are in . How do you lose your starting (possible all-american) QB ,another possible all-american TE, a four year starting Slot Back as well as a DE and starting Long snapper change your offense to accomodate the changes all after the first game and still become the top seed without GOOD coaching?!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 18, 2010, 07:35:09 PM
with all the injuries that have occured this season the coaching staff has done a nice job changing what needed to be changed in order for wesley to keep winning.  again it seems like we are talking about 2 different things here, some of you are looking at it from the point of view that wesley is winning and that must mean that the coaching is good, which i dont recall anyone saying it wasnt.  some of us are looking at it as can they win the whole thing which then allows for questioning some decisions in the quarterfinal and semi final games in which wesley has lost.  despite the fact that as some have stated, mount dominated the o line most of the game, if wesley scores on the failed never tried during the season in a game jump pass, then the result may have been different.  when you look at the results of the games in which wesley has lost in the quarterfinals and semis they have had trouble scoring points, credit the other teams d, but also question why when they had little trouble scoring during the season.  wesley has a very good coaching staff, can it win the whole thing?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 18, 2010, 07:45:53 PM
raider68, i believe i saw somewhere that wesley has the #1 statistical defense in the nation.  umhb is always a tough game but i think they will have as much trouble scoring as anyone else has so far this year.  if as i have read they have trouble covering the pass then i think they are in trouble as wesley has 2 very good receivers in kraut and stephenson.  they have a nice running back too. if they do what they have done all year and avoid the turnovers i expect them to see uwww in the semis in what will be balmy dover compared to whitewater.  once there who knows what happens, but i like there chances.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: AJK on November 18, 2010, 09:42:48 PM
 This whole thing on questioning the offensive play calling or whatever your implying  is not really relevant to what needs done. Knapps gonna make some good calls and some bad, but no matter the call if the players dont execute there job then it looks like a bad call.  The coaches prepare a game plan each week and put the players in a position to gain positive yards. In the end the players have to step up against the stiffer competition and execute, which they have not done yet in the semi's.  Mount was just a better team last year(Cecil Shorts). The coaches can only take you so far!!
Go Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 18, 2010, 10:38:02 PM
ajk, 06 - 7 pts, 07 - 10 pts, 08 - 14 pts, 09 - 7 pts.  are you implying that all of a sudden the players were unable to execute the plays because the competition was stiffer and that the coaches have no blame in the inability to score.  you are right, coaches can only take you so far and the players have to execute, but if the plan is flawed then proper execution will still not lead to points.  i would agree that cecil shorts was the difference in last years game, but wasnt it the coaches decision to put him at qb just as responsible for mount winning the game.  i find it hard to believe that a team that routinely scores in the 40's suddenly cant execute plays properly because they play a good team.  kehres and leopold are considered 2 of the top coaches in d3, they certainly have good players, but i am sure they have a little something to do with the success of thier teams.  as of right now, the only constant from the last four playoff loses is the coaching staff so it is hard to just say it was the players who didnt get it done.  i just dont get the thought that i am bashing the coaches if i question some of the things that i have seen in the games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on November 19, 2010, 08:39:09 AM
My comments/opinions come from watching the game against Mount last year.  When a team moves down the field running various plays in their usual offensive scheme, and then near the goal line runs a play that they haven't run all year, that is a coaching blunder in my opinion. 

When you look at Wesley's size/speed/roster, there is no question that the athetic talent is definitely there.  I am not saying the coaching is "bad" (that would be too general of a statement), but their offensive play-calling in crucial situations seemed to be very perplexing at the least.  I wonder if sometimes coaches try to be too creative when they are facing a challenge, and somewhat forget what the offense has been doing all year long.

Maybe it's like rocking a pop machine (not that I have ever done THAT)...it takes a few back and forths before it finally falls.  The good news is we will soon see if Wesley takes that next step.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 19, 2010, 02:03:03 PM
Man, what is with the Wesley bashing??  I would understand if Wesley was 4-6 or something like that, but we are talking about a team that earned the #1 seed in the playoffs.  That does not happen with poor coaching, period.   Some of these plays that you guys seem to think were wrong calls by the OC had wrong routes taken or were play calls by the QB.  I think Knapp does an outstanding job, personally.  The rest is up to the players.

Now onto the First Round.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 19, 2010, 05:44:38 PM


Skunk
I had seen the jump pass twice during the season,,so it wasn't brand new,,what I have not seen this seasonfrom Wesley is the boot series that was so good the last couple of years
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 19, 2010, 11:04:08 PM
first of all, some of you have to get thicker skin, there is no bashing here.  there is questioning some of the play calls in the 1/4 or semi final games.  be real, if you have been at the games which only me and ski can probably say we have and ski was not at the 06 or 07 games then you are only going by what you read or hear.  this team has had a great chance to win the whole thing.  they have not, so you can point fingers at the players or the coaches, both can take some of the blame, but to defend the coaches entirely is wrong.  there have been bad decisions and game plans that have led to wesley losing.  that is the way it is, like it or not.

maybe skunks and i see things a little different then every one else, reality versus wishes.  i still have not seen a post that said wesley had bad coaching.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 19, 2010, 11:24:32 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on November 17, 2010, 10:46:06 PM
WesleyDad!

You know where I stand on Wesley's chances.  It's not about talent, it's about coaching, specifically on the offensive side of the ball.  Wesley's defense can compete on a national scale, but the offense will be the do or die component of the Wesley run to the Stagg. 

NO JUMP PASSES!   ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 19, 2010, 11:29:53 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 18, 2010, 10:38:02 PM
ajk, 06 - 7 pts, 07 - 10 pts, 08 - 14 pts, 09 - 7 pts.  are you implying that all of a sudden the players were unable to execute the plays because the competition was stiffer and that the coaches have no blame in the inability to score.  you are right, coaches can only take you so far and the players have to execute, but if the plan is flawed then proper execution will still not lead to points.  i would agree that cecil shorts was the difference in last years game, but wasnt it the coaches decision to put him at qb just as responsible for mount winning the game.  i find it hard to believe that a team that routinely scores in the 40's suddenly cant execute plays properly because they play a good team.  kehres and leopold are considered 2 of the top coaches in d3, they certainly have good players, but i am sure they have a little something to do with the success of thier teams.  as of right now, the only constant from the last four playoff loses is the coaching staff so it is hard to just say it was the players who didnt get it done.  i just dont get the thought that i am bashing the coaches if i question some of the things that i have seen in the games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 19, 2010, 11:36:24 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 19, 2010, 11:04:08 PM
  this team has had a great chance to win the whole thing.  they have not, so you can point fingers at the players or the coaches, both can take some of the blame, but to defend the coaches entirely is wrong.  there have been bad decisions and game plans that have led to wesley losing.      

We will have to respectfully agree to disagree.  Anyways, I'll see you tommorow at the game.  The weather is going to be awesome!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: long time fan on November 20, 2010, 06:38:38 AM
Wesley dad has had his shorts bunched up since 2008.  Nuff said
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2010, 07:46:56 AM
game day, looks like the weather will be good as ski stated, anytime you can get 60 degrees in dover with little wind in november is a great day for football.  looking forward to wesley playing a good game on both sides of the ball.  i was thinking as to which team i have seen this year that muhlenberg reminded me of when i saw them play a couple of weeks ago.  i think they are like cnu with a gutsy qb and a small but tough running back.  i think they will have trouble scoring just like everyone else has this year so as the capsule said, if wesley protects the ball and keeps the penalties down i see them winning say 42 - 7.


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WesleyGrad2008 on November 20, 2010, 01:14:34 PM
Halftime Update (d3football.com has no score updates for this game for whatever reason) Wesley 26 Muhlenberg 0. Wesley just missed a 38 yd. field at end of half. Sollitarre 14-20 with 256 yards and 3 td. Krout 5 rec 122 yds 2 TD. Fowlkes 2 rec 56 yards and 1 TD

Muhlenberg held to 32 passing yards and 53 rush yards
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2010, 03:35:38 PM
That was one heck of a good game by Wesley today!  Well done, team AND coaches.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 20, 2010, 03:36:50 PM
   Wesley's play calling must have been ok today !!!! ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 20, 2010, 03:49:41 PM
Great game today Wolverines!!!! 650 yards of total offense, and the D was AMAZING again. Looks as if I will be making the trip out there next week vs Montclair State. Uber excited  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 20, 2010, 08:25:57 PM
Quote from: WesleyGrad2008 on November 20, 2010, 01:14:34 PM
Halftime Update (d3football.com has no score updates for this game for whatever reason)

Not the website's fault. The link for the live stats from Wesley is supposed to update automatically on the d3.com scoreboard.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on November 20, 2010, 09:30:01 PM
How do you get tickets for the game next Saturday? I'm staying overnight in Dover.
Should be an interesting game if we can play 110-60 and "Keep Pounding". The South will be a war. The winner of our game will play MHB or Thomas More. I think the winner of the South goes to the Stagg Bowl.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 20, 2010, 09:34:57 PM
rams

they sell tickets at the gate
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 20, 2010, 09:40:40 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on November 20, 2010, 03:36:50 PM
   Wesley's play calling must have been ok today !!!! ::)

Beenhit2hard

Missed ya today! Thougth maybe you would make the trip up. The team had a different demeanor today. No late scrums, no bad penalties. Just a workmanlike perfomance. Sottilare threw some bbs..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on November 20, 2010, 09:41:27 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 20, 2010, 09:34:57 PM
rams

they sell tickets at the gate


What time should I get there?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 20, 2010, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 20, 2010, 09:40:40 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on November 20, 2010, 03:36:50 PM
   Wesley's play calling must have been ok today !!!! ::)

Beenhit2hard

Missed ya today! Thougth maybe you would make the trip up. The team had a different demeanor today. No late scrums, no bad penalties. Just a workmanlike perfomance. Sottilare threw some bbs..



Had some Grandpa duties this weekend,,will be there the rest of the way,,,,see you next week
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 20, 2010, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on November 20, 2010, 09:41:27 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 20, 2010, 09:34:57 PM
rams

they sell tickets at the gate


What time should I get there?

The game kicks off at noon so make sure you are there before then. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2010, 10:16:52 PM
this was one of the best games i have seen wesley play in the 7 years i have seen them.  this was a total domination from the get go.  kudos to the coaching staff for having them prepared and to the players for doing what had to be done.  600+ yards of offense is out of control.  the d dominated the mules from play one.  too fast and too good makes for a tough time.  next week will be a little tougher, but since montclaire is not that good on o, then they will not score.  so if wesley can get 7 they win.  i was glad to see some anger from knapp today when things didnt go as planned, didnt happen often which means that they are on the same page.  sottalaire throw some bullets today.  if this team play like they did today, good luck to anyone who plays them, because you will need it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 69mule on November 20, 2010, 10:26:18 PM
Nice win Wesley.  Let's see you run the table.  It would do my heart good.  Don't want to see more of the same old same old.  Get 'er done Wesley! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2010, 11:51:05 PM
Quote from: WesleyGrad2008 on November 20, 2010, 01:14:34 PM
Halftime Update (d3football.com has no score updates for this game for whatever reason)

The school providing the live stats misconfigured them. During the second quarter I called in PrestoSports to help them out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 21, 2010, 09:40:22 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2010, 11:51:05 PM
Quote from: WesleyGrad2008 on November 20, 2010, 01:14:34 PM
Halftime Update (d3football.com has no score updates for this game for whatever reason)

The school providing the live stats misconfigured them. During the second quarter I called in PrestoSports to help them out.

And they still didn't work after that???? Man, I thought you had more pull than that! I'm sure they will be working fine for next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2010, 10:34:02 AM
early weather forecast for next saturday, sunny and 48, a little chill in the air as usual, just hope the wind isnt as strong as yesterday.  standing in the end zone, it sure made the flight of the ball change, drastically on some of the kickoffs.  cummings pass was a thing of beauty as it floated with the wind to the receiver.  only concern from yesterday was the 3 missed extra points, no big deal in this game but could hurt in a close game down the road.  pawesleyfan knows more about the kicking game than i do, looked like overcompensation for the wind.  montclaire brings a statistically strong defense so the offense will have to keep up the strong performance from yesterday.  hampden sydney only ran for like 30+ yards, so montclaire looks like they will be tough against the run.  big game from the o line can change that.  from reading njac board seems like the offense has struggled most of the year, dover will be a tough place for them this week.  if the defenses are equal, wesley has the better offense so they should come away with the win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 21, 2010, 11:17:02 AM
Yeah, the wind was pretty brisk!  I'm sure that had a lot to do with the missed field goals.  Wesley's kicking game this season has been a LOT better than last year, so this game was unusual.

Wesley's balanced offence is one of the team's true assets.  Having two running backs and two WRs with over 100 yards each is quite something.  Without a doubt, it must drive the opposing DC's  mad trying to counter it. 

I am already pumped up for Montclair State.  You KNOW Wesley will be gunning for them after the upset a couple years ago. 

I also really enjoyed watching a clean game.  The relative lack of turnovers and penalties showed a focused team IMHO.  I certainly think that Wesley has an outstanding chance of peaking at the right time.

-Ski


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2010, 11:30:27 AM
ski, must not have been fun up in the loft, i was in the stands first half and it was blowing good up top.

yea, kicking game has been good.

agree with you and pawesleyfan, seemed to be more focused on the task at hand without all the other stuff we have seen at times this year.  only one turnover was good too.

this week will be a good test for the balanced o, i think they may throw it a little more if montclaire does have the tough run d the stats show.  not sure about stats though, 600+ yards against a top 20 stat defense puts that into question.

will try to see you this week, coming up from north carolina after thanksgiving so i am not sure when i will arrive, hoping around 11.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2010, 05:33:59 PM
 I didn't get to talk to coach Delgado after the game so I don't have any reasons for the bad kicking day. I have a few ideas what could have gone wrong but it would only be conjecture. My thoughts are that the kicking balls which are kept separate from other balls could have been extra slick. That can cause a few different things to happen from the snaps through the kicks. And the wind could have effected the long snaps Maybe that's why the Mules punter was only standing 10 yrds deep and quick kicking everything. I have seen long kicks not be effected the way you would think even with those winds yesterday. The flags would have suggested that the ball move a lot more than it did. But all that said Dan Tryon is as good a overall kicker as Wesley has hadover the 16 plus years I have been going to games.

  Wesley's D is playing at a different level. They adjust on the fly and really take pride in stopping other teams
   Wesley's O is getting contributions from a lot of different players and keeping teams off balance. Sottilare is making good reads for the most part and the line is playing great.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on November 21, 2010, 09:10:01 PM
Highlights of Wesley and Muhlenburg are now posted on our website.

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=S672256876663
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2010, 09:42:15 PM
pawesley, the mules have a whole different issue with punting.  i saw the game against ursinus and that is how they punt it all the time.  i believe this is the 3rd punter this year, the other 2 were injured so they have gone to that style to get punts off.  speaking of punts, i think wesley may want to scrap that spread punt formation.  that is the 3rd punt i have seen blocked in different games that i have gone to with teams using that formation.  the other team is just overloading a side and outmanning the blockers.

i agree about the d and they will be hearing about how good montclaires d is supposed to be so i think they will have a little incentive to prove who is better.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on November 22, 2010, 08:51:32 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 21, 2010, 09:42:15 PM
pawesley, the mules have a whole different issue with punting.  i saw the game against ursinus and that is how they punt it all the time.  i believe this is the 3rd punter this year, the other 2 were injured so they have gone to that style to get punts off.  speaking of punts, i think wesley may want to scrap that spread punt formation.  that is the 3rd punt i have seen blocked in different games that i have gone to with teams using that formation.  the other team is just overloading a side and outmanning the blockers.

i agree about the d and they will be hearing about how good montclaires d is supposed to be so i think they will have a little incentive to prove who is better.

I think you guys are ranked #1 on "D". We are the guys with something to prove. It should be a war. Can't wait for the game. It's been a while since my last visit. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2010, 04:16:43 PM
rams1102, agree it should be a hard fought game.  both teams will likely get some motivation from the stats of the other.  listened to the podcast and keith stated that hampden was able to move the ball, just not punch it in.  having seen them play bridgewater i can say that their o is not as good as wesleys.  and their d is nowhere near the class of wesleys.  this will be a tough task for montclaire if wesley plays a clean game like they did last week.  hopefully the week goes quickly and the family trip to nc goes well, since i am leaving everyone else friday evening to start the return trip to be in dover by 11 on saturday.  weather forecast is for 40's and windy, which is always is in dover anyway.  i also am pretty sure that there will be no delay waiting for the officials to get there this time.  the $10 charge to get in is a bit much though.  not sure about the crowd since many students will be heading home for the holiday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 22, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
Well looking forward to this weekend vs. Montclair State. Its shaping up to be a little windy and around 40. I think Wesley will hopefully improve on their last performance vs. Muhlenberg. Thats all I have to say about that except: cant wait til Saturday, and eat lots of turkey everyone!  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2010, 07:35:35 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 22, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
Well looking forward to this weekend vs. Montclair State. Its shaping up to be a little windy and around 40. I think Wesley will hopefully improve on their last performance vs. Muhlenberg. Thats all I have to say about that except: cant wait til Saturday, and eat lots of turkey everyone!  ;D

Improve?!?!?!?!  I just want them to match it.  :D

I'd better bundle up for the wind tunnel on the loft.  It is going to be a bit cold up there!  I am really excited about the game myself.  Its gonna be a long week this week!  :'(

One thing is for sure, there will be no underestimation of Montclair State this time around.  

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on November 22, 2010, 07:44:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 22, 2010, 07:35:35 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 22, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
Well looking forward to this weekend vs. Montclair State. Its shaping up to be a little windy and around 40. I think Wesley will hopefully improve on their last performance vs. Muhlenberg. Thats all I have to say about that except: cant wait til Saturday, and eat lots of turkey everyone!  ;D

Improve?!?!?!?!  I just want them to match it.  :D

I'd better bundle up for the wind tunnel on the loft.  It is going to be a bit cold up there!  I am really excited about the game myself.  Its gonna be a long week this week!  :'(

One thing is for sure, there will be no underestimation of Montclair State this time around.   

-Ski

Teamski,

HScoach has Wesley at 18.5 pts over Montclair State, how do you see it? :)
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Post by: thewaterboy on November 22, 2010, 07:48:35 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 22, 2010, 07:35:35 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 22, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
Well looking forward to this weekend vs. Montclair State. Its shaping up to be a little windy and around 40. I think Wesley will hopefully improve on their last performance vs. Muhlenberg. Thats all I have to say about that except: cant wait til Saturday, and eat lots of turkey everyone!  ;D

Improve?!?!?!?!  I just want them to match it.  :D

I'd better bundle up for the wind tunnel on the loft.  It is going to be a bit cold up there!  I am really excited about the game myself.  Its gonna be a long week this week!  :'(

One thing is for sure, there will be no underestimation of Montclair State this time around.   

-Ski

"improve" isnt the word I would use anymore.  :D Maybe "build on." But what you said hahahaha  ;D
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Post by: beenhit2hard on November 22, 2010, 08:53:43 PM


Wesley ,both players and coaches,have been in the playoffs enough to know what they must do to continue . They will be ready to play a great game. As long as they play to Win,, rather than play to not lose,they should be fine. I have seen many defenses over the years of the playoffs,,and this Wesley D is among the best . As long as they are mentally ready to just play,,they can play with anyone !!
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 22, 2010, 08:59:13 PM
Raider

18.5 is a lot. It's going to be a windy ,cold day in Dover
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Post by: rams1102 on November 22, 2010, 09:00:24 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on November 22, 2010, 07:44:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 22, 2010, 07:35:35 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 22, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
Well looking forward to this weekend vs. Montclair State. Its shaping up to be a little windy and around 40. I think Wesley will hopefully improve on their last performance vs. Muhlenberg. Thats all I have to say about that except: cant wait til Saturday, and eat lots of turkey everyone!  ;D

Improve?!?!?!?!  I just want them to match it.  :D

I'd better bundle up for the wind tunnel on the loft.  It is going to be a bit cold up there!  I am really excited about the game myself.  Its gonna be a long week this week!  :'(

One thing is for sure, there will be no underestimation of Montclair State this time around.   

-Ski

Teamski,

HScoach has Wesley at 18.5 pts over Montclair State, how do you see it? :)

As a Montclair Homer who visited the sacrificial alter last year and have been running the NJAC Pick-E'm for a while, I would have Wesley by 15 and add 3 for home field and there you go. I was also at Wesley when we played you a few years ago. I wish you guys would be our out of conference game, but that is not my call. When we were there last we had a habit of giving up the big pass play. We have eliminated that and bend but don't break. In any event Wesley is the big dog, enough said. Can Montclair win the game, Yes and everything must be perfect and Jupiter must be alligned with Mars. I think you guys are ready to take the next step to becomming elite, and I hope we can be the one to stop you guys. Gezz it will be real tough, but that's why we play the game. Looking forward to my late afternoon drive to Wesley this Friday. ;D 
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Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2010, 12:53:55 AM
Well, if there is one thing that I think Wesley learned this year, is that mistakes make for close games!  If you mitigate the mistakes, you win.   This year seems a bit different than in the past, in that Wesley really had to fight to win two games, one with a ton of almost insurmountable mistakes.   In past years, mistakes have resulted in outright losses against Delaware Valley and Montclair State.  The Wolverines survived those games this year by sheer determination and both wins were important lessons.  In particular, the win over Delaware Valley despite 5 turnovers and 125 yards in penalties was a real eye opener.  The fact that the team could overcome the turmoil to win, put it on another level than perhaps the 2007 team that lost against Montclair State.  I really believe that the players found a vulnerability and are working to keep the mistakes to a minimum.  We'll see if the trend continues, but the past several games have been pretty darn clean.  

-Ski
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Post by: white_mike52 on November 23, 2010, 07:54:16 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 21, 2010, 09:42:15 PM
pawesley, the mules have a whole different issue with punting.  i saw the game against ursinus and that is how they punt it all the time.  i believe this is the 3rd punter this year, the other 2 were injured so they have gone to that style to get punts off.  speaking of punts, i think wesley may want to scrap that spread punt formation.  that is the 3rd punt i have seen blocked in different games that i have gone to with teams using that formation.  the other team is just overloading a side and outmanning the blockers.

i agree about the d and they will be hearing about how good montclaires d is supposed to be so i think they will have a little incentive to prove who is better.

Yes- the Mules rugby punt (from what I saw).  It's ugly but effective in keeping our best dudes from getting the ball in space.  If you don't have a kid that can boom them high and deep then this is a great alternative to minimize the chance for a big return. 

I'm fired up for the Montclair game- all us old 97-2000 Wolverines are thirsty for some payback.  How will we win?

TOGETHER!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 23, 2010, 08:58:22 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 22, 2010, 08:59:13 PM
Raider

18.5 is a lot. It's going to be a windy ,cold day in Dover

Windy...at Wesley???? Really.....never had that happen there with us (removing tongue from deep in cheek - hehe)
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Post by: wesleydad on November 23, 2010, 11:31:36 AM
nnasid, guess that means that it will be windier then usual in dover.

raider68, i think the 18.5 is about right.  rams1102 said it well.  wesley is better by 3 scores if both teams play a clean game.  homefield certainly gives wesley an advantage with only 2 losses since the turf was put in, one to monclaire.  wesley is likely to shut down the run which leaves montclaire passing which is not their strong suit.  wesley will figure out a way to move the ball and if last week is any indicator, sottilaire can throw it hard enough even against the wind or with the cross wind.  if monclaire struggles scoring and there is no indication they wont since everyone else has, then i can see wesley winning 24 or more - 7.  mistakes make this a closer game or a blowout.

rams1102, enjoy your stay in dover, not sure of your plans, but you can certainly kill some time at dover downs casino.  really nice irish restuarant on the way to the campus also.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on November 23, 2010, 06:46:03 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 23, 2010, 11:31:36 AM
nnasid, guess that means that it will be windier then usual in dover.

raider68, i think the 18.5 is about right.  rams1102 said it well.  wesley is better by 3 scores if both teams play a clean game.  homefield certainly gives wesley an advantage with only 2 losses since the turf was put in, one to monclaire.  wesley is likely to shut down the run which leaves montclaire passing which is not their strong suit.  wesley will figure out a way to move the ball and if last week is any indicator, sottilaire can throw it hard enough even against the wind or with the cross wind.  if monclaire struggles scoring and there is no indication they wont since everyone else has, then i can see wesley winning 24 or more - 7.  mistakes make this a closer game or a blowout.

rams1102, enjoy your stay in dover, not sure of your plans, but you can certainly kill some time at dover downs casino.  really nice irish restuarant on the way to the campus also.

Should roll into Dover around 6:30PM. I have to complete my honey do's. Not one to gamble. What is a good place to eat? I would like to meet you and Pa before the game. I guess everyone is playing this close to the vest, cause there is very little chatter on the NJAC Board and you and Pa do most of the talking here with a little from water boy. After all of this the most important : "A Happy And Healthy Thanksgiving To All."
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 23, 2010, 07:15:11 PM
rams1102, i will talk to my son and get the name of the irish restaurant that i mentioned.  plenty of chain restaurants to eat at also on the main strip.  i am returning from north carolina via norfolk friday night so i plan on trying to be there by 11 am, but likely earlier since i tend to beat the supposed arrival time on the gps.  usually only pa, teamski, and myself.  waterboy chimes in once in a while.  i am surprised that the njac board is so quiet too, figured with the wins by mont and cort that they would be chirping a little.  beenhit2hard and conrad also add some to the conversation here.  since the chill will be in the air i will put the boys 13 jersey on so i will be easy to find.
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2010, 09:52:03 PM
rams1102

There are a lot more places to eat since your last visit to Dover.  The Colonade in the casino at the Downs has a few places also. I don't stay down any morte and eat so Wesleydad  and Ski and Conrad can give you a better idea. I sit next(to the left) to the press box second row from the top usually on the aisle. I am hoping to make it down buit I had a little set back with my hip and back today and I am not walking or sitting very well!!
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Post by: beenhit2hard on November 23, 2010, 09:59:15 PM
PA__ get better soon,we will be looking for you saturday,,Hope y'all have a great Thanksgiving !!!Y'all is still strange coming from me,  a northerner .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2010, 11:57:18 PM
beenhit2hard

   Happy Thanksgiving to you and the Mrs. also.... As long as I can drive I will be there
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2010, 09:32:53 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2010, 09:52:03 PM
I am hoping to make it down buit I had a little set back with my hip and back today and I am not walking or sitting very well!!

Yeah, get better!  I hope you can make the game.

I believe Wesleydad is referring to Mcglynns Pub & Restaurant, 800 North State Street.  It is right on the way to Wesley and is easy to find.  I've only ate there once, but it was good.  If you like Mexican, La Tolteca is right on route 13 on the way to Wesley as well.  In the heart of Dover, you have Smithers which is actually an 1800's house complete with a sports bar. Also, there is Frasiers and The Loockerman Exchange.  So, you have a bunch of choices....


-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 24, 2010, 11:58:54 AM
teamski, thanks for the info on the restaurants for rams1102.

Pawesley, hope you feel better and can make it, i havnt chatted with you all year.  would offer to meet you half way and do the driving but i am coming from norfolk saturday morning.  wish i could help.

to all the wesley folk and anyone else who frequents these boards, have a happy and safe thanksgiving.  hope to see you on saturday.
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Post by: thewaterboy on November 24, 2010, 01:06:40 PM
PA, hope you feel better so you can make it out.

And a happy thanksgiving to all on this board and go Wesley.
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Post by: Hampton U SID on November 24, 2010, 08:23:16 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to all

Hope you're feeling better PA_wesley

Good luck Wesley on Saturday
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Post by: Teamski on November 27, 2010, 09:07:22 AM
Ahhh, yes!  Game Day!  It's 34 degrees out and sunny.  I am pumped up and ready to go!!   ;D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 27, 2010, 11:05:23 AM
just rolled into dover.  very windy and chilly.  clear skies adn bright sun will help a little.  dress warm and enjoy the game.  i think montclaire has trouble scoring and wesley wins 31 - 10.
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Post by: wesleydad on November 27, 2010, 02:37:18 PM
game winding down, 44 - 7 and it was as the score shows.  wesley dominated the game.  defense is really good.  the coaches did a great job today.  the offense was clearly prepared for the weather as they shortened the routes to accomodate for the wind which was really blowing.  next week will be the biggest test for the defense as umhb brings the best offense that wesley has seen all year.  this will be a real good one.  already looking forward to it.  great job today.
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Post by: Ralph Turner on November 27, 2010, 02:39:44 PM
Halftime UMHB 38, Thomas More 0
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 27, 2010, 03:23:54 PM
I just got home from the game.  That was a cold one, indeed!  Wesley's defense was awesome  today and the Wolverines did what they needed to get the job done!  Sottilaire is really starting to peak.  His off balanced shot into the endzone was amazing. 

Looking forward to the MHB game as it should be a good one.

-Ski
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Post by: Teamski on November 27, 2010, 03:55:26 PM
I finally saw the box score.  113 total yards of offense allowed by the Wesley defense, with -5 rushing yards allowed.  Wow.

The offense was really balanced today.  206 yards of rushing offence and over 400 yards total offense.  Not too shabby.... ;)

-Ski
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Post by: wesleydad on November 27, 2010, 04:25:08 PM
ski, hope you thaw out.  it was cold on the field, cant imagine how cold it was up top filming the game.  maybe is the film is cold it will make the defense look slower then they really are.  :D

we are in for a good one next weekend.  real good o against possibly the best d in d3 football.  how fast can the week go?
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Post by: Teamski on November 27, 2010, 05:33:01 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 27, 2010, 04:25:08 PM
ski, hope you thaw out.  it was cold on the field, cant imagine how cold it was up top filming the game.  maybe is the film is cold it will make the defense look slower then they really are.  :D

we are in for a good one next weekend.  real good o against possibly the best d in d3 football.  how fast can the week go?

A nice hot chocolate did the trick.  You are correct, it was cold up there!  That crosswind gets you right in the back.  At least I got to say hi to Keith McMillan before I left.

Yeah, UMHB put up 69 points today.....I think Wesley will be taking a chunk out of their 500+ yards of rushing next week, what do you think?

-Ski
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Post by: thewaterboy on November 27, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Good win for the Wolverines. Real balanced offensively and the defense was as hard hitting and lights out as usual. Sottilare and Cummings now lead Division III in pass efficiency. Great job today!

Familiar foe next week vs. UMHB. Hopefully Wesley can keep that good football going.
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Post by: beenhit2hard on November 27, 2010, 07:11:28 PM

 Finally home and warm  ;D.My observations today,,Wesley  D made MSU look like an average to below average football team.MSU played with little emotion,,and saw their players bickering on their sideline and some on the field  with each other.On the Other hand Wesley looked like a very focused team,,ready to play and well prepared in all areas of the game .It was just a very cold game for us older people,,and I even had my ski coat on  :o  next week should be a great match up !!out comes the under armour cold gear next week :o
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Post by: Toby Taff on November 27, 2010, 07:12:32 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 27, 2010, 05:33:01 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 27, 2010, 04:25:08 PM
ski, hope you thaw out.  it was cold on the field, cant imagine how cold it was up top filming the game.  maybe is the film is cold it will make the defense look slower then they really are.  :D

we are in for a good one next weekend.  real good o against possibly the best d in d3 football.  how fast can the week go?

A nice hot chocolate did the trick.  You are correct, it was cold up there!  That crosswind gets you right in the back.  At least I got to say hi to Keith McMillan before I left.

Yeah, UMHB put up 69 points today.....I think Wesley will be taking a chunk out of their 500+ yards of rushing next week, what do you think?

-Ski
I think you're right.  Over 200 yards came from the 2nd and 3rd stringers who shouldn't see much PT next week.  If they do, it's a real bad day for Wesley or a real bad injury day for the Cru.
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Post by: wesleydad on November 28, 2010, 05:21:21 PM
in my haste to reply about the game i forgot to congratulate tryon for his kicking today.  the wind was worse than last week and he did a nice job making adjustments.  the missed extra point was dead center, then stopped by the wind and pushed right, was really fun to watch since i was standing at that endzone.  never thought he would make the field goal, excellent job.

cant wait for next saturday.
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Post by: Raider 68 on November 29, 2010, 01:41:18 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 28, 2010, 05:21:21 PM
in my haste to reply about the game i forgot to congratulate tryon for his kicking today.  the wind was worse than last week and he did a nice job making adjustments.  the missed extra point was dead center, then stopped by the wind and pushed right, was really fun to watch since i was standing at that endzone.  never thought he would make the field goal, excellent job.

cant wait for next saturday.

wesleydad, Teamski,

With all the discussion on MHB's offense vs. Wesley's defense, what about Wesley's offense against MHB's defense.? what are your thoughts? :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 29, 2010, 01:45:30 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on November 29, 2010, 01:41:18 PM
wesleydad, Teamski,

With all the discussion on MHB's offense vs. Wesley's defense, what about Wesley's offense against MHB's defense.? what are your thoughts? :)

Well, Wesley's offense is about as balanced as you can get.  If it doesn't work on the ground, it works in the air and vice versa.  I am interested in seeing how UMHB covers both.

-Ski
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2010, 05:42:23 PM
 Raider 68

Wesley has developed a lot of players this year because of some of the blowouts. They have two quality Qb's and a third who in a pinch can go back there if need be.. They have a good one two punch in the runnning game and numerous recievers who can go get it....

I think the think that caught my attention in the Kean game and then again in the first playoff game was how deep the coaches went into the roster right of the get go....

All that being said, when you get to great teams together two things can happen... A great tight game or a big blowout if things roll wrong one way or the other for either team
.
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Post by: wesleydad on November 29, 2010, 07:04:53 PM
raider68, good question.  this offense looks to be hitting on all cylinders right now.  that being said the last 2 times wesley played umhb, they struggled to score.  in 07 wesley lost 27 - 10, i dont have a photographic memory but i believe there were some turnovers that hurt wesley.  in 08 in belton, wesley was totally overwhelmed by what umhb did on defense.  the d line totally controlled the game, turnovers also hurt.  wesley had no answers that day.  it is going to come down to game plan and execution as it does in most close games.  which teams coaches figure out what is going to work and which team's players execute it better.  then when the game starts, who makes the adjustments to counter what the other team is doing well.  i believe that wesley will be able to move the ball, more in the air then on the ground as the secondary seems to be the weakspot for umhb according to their posters on the asc site.  if wesley is able to run the ball for 150 yds then i think they win, comfortably, if they play a clean game.  much respest for hscoach and his 12.5 line tells me something, maybe that he is crazy, but not likely.  this has all the makings of a great game.
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Post by: thewaterboy on November 30, 2010, 05:19:36 PM
Whew shaping up to be a good one this weekend. If Wesley plays like they have been they should win. Thats all I have to say about that and see ya Saturday.
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Post by: wesleydad on November 30, 2010, 07:31:24 PM
waterboy, come and find me in the tailgating area.  i will be easy to find i will be an old guy hanging out with college kids and possibly some guys wearing bridgewater gear.  some of my friends from down south are coming up for the game.  i agree with you, play like they have been and they win.
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Post by: Smashmouth on November 30, 2010, 10:10:56 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 29, 2010, 07:04:53 PM
raider68, good question.  this offense looks to be hitting on all cylinders right now.  that being said the last 2 times wesley played umhb, they struggled to score.  in 07 wesley lost 27 - 10, i dont have a photographic memory but i believe there were some turnovers that hurt wesley.  in 08 in belton, wesley was totally overwhelmed by what umhb did on defense.  the d line totally controlled the game, turnovers also hurt.  wesley had no answers that day.  it is going to come down to game plan and execution as it does in most close games.  which teams coaches figure out what is going to work and which team's players execute it better.  then when the game starts, who makes the adjustments to counter what the other team is doing well.  i believe that wesley will be able to move the ball, more in the air then on the ground as the secondary seems to be the weakspot for umhb according to their posters on the asc site.  if wesley is able to run the ball for 150 yds then i think they win, comfortably, if they play a clean game.  much respest for hscoach and his 12.5 line tells me something, maybe that he is crazy, but not likely.  this has all the makings of a great game.

Very asute.   I also think it may also come down to penalties, turnovers, and of course the special teams.  It is always exciting to watch our punt return team.  If the forecast holds true, I don't think weather will be much of a factor. 
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Post by: wesleydad on November 30, 2010, 10:18:53 PM
smashmouth, i have not been called astute very often.  add an s and drop the tute is more often the term i get.  i do have a clue, and it rubs some the wrong way.  this is the best team that wesley has had, warick, my son, beavers, lano, etc. have laid the ground work for this team.  the coaches who i sometimes disagree with are some of the best in the game and they care about the players which is why i am glad my son went to wesley and why i am glad to tute their horn as often as i can, guess that is where the tute part comes in. :D  i have had so much fun following d3 football and met so many great people that my wife believes i am crazy, but what else am i going to do on a saturday from sept to mid dec?  i wish you and your son good luck, just not this week.  hope to meet you saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Smashmouth on November 30, 2010, 10:25:55 PM
Looking forward to it.  Don't be fooled by those who claim the Cru are one dimensional.  I get a chuckle out of those kind of statements.  Granted we have dropped a few passes, and some of them were TD's.  But if you were the OC and were ripping the D with the ground game, would you really want to start throwing the ball and get the Oline out of rhythm just for style points? 

This game will be a classic. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 01, 2010, 12:27:53 PM


Any Stone Station coming to Wesley this saturday ???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on December 01, 2010, 12:32:29 PM
Any word on if thie game will have live video?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 01, 2010, 02:05:41 PM
We're working on it. I feel pretty confident we're going to get there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2010, 02:55:36 PM
Man, am I getting pumped up for this game! 

-Ski
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Post by: CRU96 on December 01, 2010, 04:25:30 PM
I believe that this matchup has the makings for a D3 classic.  Often overstated, but true, this is a post season rivalry with tension and respect on both sides.  Looking forward to saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 01, 2010, 04:28:07 PM
wesleydad, I will try to make it out to the tailgating but we havent been much for it this season when we have visited Dover. Its seems to have quieted down a bunch.

Looking forward to Saturday, this week is going really slowly.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2010, 05:20:59 PM
waterboy, i agree.  i havent been doing much since i dont know any of the current parents and all the others have gone away.  stop out saturday so i can meet you.  a couple of folks from bridgewater ( stone station ) are coming up.  no fancy tailgating just some socializing before the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2010, 05:24:59 PM
beenhit2hard, i have been talking to a couple of them on facebook and hal, dennis, and peggy are planning on making the trip.  no fancy tailgating, just some socializing before the game.  as of now they plan on arriving around 1030 or so.  i will let you know if anything changes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 01, 2010, 11:32:24 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on December 01, 2010, 12:27:53 PM


Any Stone Station coming to Wesley this saturday ???

Ten additional minutes of driving from Roanoke you could be at the Mount Union/Alfred game, but then why would you want to?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 02, 2010, 07:43:24 AM


   70's

When I drive to Roanoke from the Island,,it is only about 20 miles different than the trip from Alliance to Roanoke,,and I never leave the state of Va,,  I can make Wesley in 2 hours ,,alliance is 9 hours from here,,,and this should be a GREAT game this weekend !!
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Post by: MCSID on December 02, 2010, 01:27:13 PM
D3 fans can watch the D3 Senior Classic Live or Archived at: http://www.knoxivi.com/d3classic (http://www.knoxivi.com/d3classic)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2010, 08:06:08 PM
awful quiet in here.  big game this weekend and no chatter.  pawesleyfan, where have you gone?  hope your hip and back are better so you can make the game this week.

as for the game, time to break it down.  strong o, mostly run against strong d against both, advantage wesley.  balanced o against a strong d which has to guess what is going to happen.  advantage wesley.  i venture to guess that umhb has not palyed against a defense like the one they will see this weekend nor against an offense as balanced as this one.  special teams probably goes to umhb based on stats.  weather has to favor wesley, doesnt get this cold in texas.  the wind will be in the 10 - 20 range, annoying again.  in the end, d wins games and wesley has a very good ones.  keep it clean with no turnovers or bad penalties and wesley wins this one, 27 - 13.  see you on saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2010, 08:38:16 PM
I think that is a fair estimation.  I think it gets quiet on the boards because once people make their opinions known, anything after that has a chance to devolve into a flaming war.  We're talking about fans, you know!   ;D
I agree that if Wesley keeps it clean, they should come out on top.  Dress warm!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 02, 2010, 10:20:19 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 02, 2010, 08:06:08 PM
awful quiet in here.  big game this weekend and no chatter.  pawesleyfan, where have you gone?  hope your hip and back are better so you can make the game this week.

as for the game, time to break it down.  strong o, mostly run against strong d against both, advantage wesley.  balanced o against a strong d which has to guess what is going to happen.  advantage wesley.  i venture to guess that umhb has not palyed against a defense like the one they will see this weekend nor against an offense as balanced as this one.  special teams probably goes to umhb based on stats.  weather has to favor wesley, doesnt get this cold in texas.  the wind will be in the 10 - 20 range, annoying again.  in the end, d wins games and wesley has a very good ones.  keep it clean with no turnovers or bad penalties and wesley wins this one, 27 - 13.  see you on saturday.

wesleydad,

Your analysis is close and the game will be as well. MHB is a run first team, so the weather would impact them more if passing was their first option. A turnover and a special teams key play will keep this close. That said, Wesley wins 21-14.  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bill on December 02, 2010, 11:17:34 PM
Are any of these guys important for Wesley?

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20101202/NEWS01/101202015/Football-players-charged-in-burglaries-of-Wesley-dorms

Oh boy....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 02, 2010, 11:30:12 PM
Quote from: bill on December 02, 2010, 11:17:34 PM
Are any of these guys important for Wesley?

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20101202/NEWS01/101202015/Football-players-charged-in-burglaries-of-Wesley-dorms

Oh boy....
I see none of those names on the Wesley roster.

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2010-11/roster
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 02, 2010, 11:32:38 PM
Please do not let stats sway you too much.  If you read the article about the game by Jason you know that giving up the big scores and yards came early in the season.  if you go to the ASC board and read preseason posts from me you will see that before the season started I called the slow start (even saying that McM had a good shot at beating UMHB because the Cru historically starts slow and McM's offense is really that good).  That said, I'd assess the game this way:

Cru D is big and fast to negate the running game and the DBs are well tested against some of the statistically best passing offenses in the country.  If Wesley's large O-line can keep UMHB's D out of the backfield advantage Wesley.  If the Cru D is harassing the QB advantage UMHB. As for haven't seen as balanced an offense, HSU plays a very balanced game, has comparable size and speed, and UMHB plays them every year.  Special teams has always been a priority for the Cru so advantage UMHB.  Weather won't be that big of a deal.  It does get cold in Texas (ask North Carolina Wesleyan); it's usually windy in Texas; and the Cru will likely rush the ball 60+ times minimizing the weather's effect.  I haven't seen the Wesley D, but believe it to be as it has been in the past, very good.  They will see an offense they have seen before with a new wrinkle.  Bailey is not just an option QB.  He can run the ball; he will pitch the ball (unlike last year), and he can throw the ball (see the 60 yd pass on the D3football.com plays of the week page for evidence).  So I'll give several options.  

If the UMHB O and D lines are winning in the trenches Cru wins by 10 or more
If UMHB D is playing well but the Offense looks pedestrian it's a pick'em low scoring game that special teams decides (advantage Cru but you never know)
If Wesley is winning in the trenches Wesley wins, but I have a hard time putting a score to it

I'm going to assume that both teams have some success on O and D and think this will be a middle of the road scoring close game  31-24 UMHB
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 03, 2010, 01:51:55 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 02, 2010, 11:30:12 PM
Quote from: bill on December 02, 2010, 11:17:34 PM
Are any of these guys important for Wesley?

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20101202/NEWS01/101202015/Football-players-charged-in-burglaries-of-Wesley-dorms

Oh boy....
I see none of those names on the Wesley roster.

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2010-11/roster

Because they have since been removed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kelly Boggs on December 03, 2010, 06:04:06 AM
Ditto, Toby. Excellent analysis! (Which I have come to expect.)

IMO the game is too close to call. As Toby articulated, the game could go either way. It will probably come down to a turnover here or a penalty there, perhaps a busted pass coverage or spectacular special teams play - who knows. The oblong ball can bounce in mysterious ways.

As I said on the ASC board, I have seen UMHB twice: against Louisiana College (where my son plays) and against Thomas More. This is the most dangerous passing game I have ever seen the CRU put on the field. The UMHB ability to pass the ball efficiently was the difference in the LC game.

The CRU's new found ability to pass the ball effectively and efficiently definitely adds another dimension to the game. It should be in interesting and entertaining game in Dover tomorrow.   

Go CRU!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 03, 2010, 09:00:36 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 03, 2010, 01:51:55 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 02, 2010, 11:30:12 PM
Quote from: bill on December 02, 2010, 11:17:34 PM
Are any of these guys important for Wesley?

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20101202/NEWS01/101202015/Football-players-charged-in-burglaries-of-Wesley-dorms

Oh boy....
I see none of those names on the Wesley roster.

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2010-11/roster

Because they have since been removed.
Thanks, Pat.

As for contributions, I do not see their names in the season's cumulative statistics...

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2010-11/files/teamcume.htm
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on December 03, 2010, 09:36:48 AM
I am not sure why they are not listed in the cumulative statistics considering they were all listed in the 2-deep on UMHB's game notes and had stats from previous games if you look at specific games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2010, 10:47:11 AM
i recognize 2 names, strickland and fowlkes.  strickland may hurt a little, the other 3 will have no effect imo.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 03, 2010, 11:25:00 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 03, 2010, 09:00:36 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 03, 2010, 01:51:55 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 02, 2010, 11:30:12 PM
Quote from: bill on December 02, 2010, 11:17:34 PM
Are any of these guys important for Wesley?

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20101202/NEWS01/101202015/Football-players-charged-in-burglaries-of-Wesley-dorms

Oh boy....
I see none of those names on the Wesley roster.

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2010-11/roster

Because they have since been removed.
Thanks, Pat.

As for contributions, I do not see their names in the season's cumulative statistics...

http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2010-11/files/teamcume.htm

They have also since been removed.

Here's the intel I got:

QuoteDouglas was doing a decent job replacing McAndrew at tight end. The kid behind him can't catch but is a hell of a blocker. Two tight end sets go out the window.

Fowlkes rotated in at receiver and made some plays, three TDs in the past couple weeks.

Strickland played in nickle situations and Baker only got a few snaps a game on the d-line. Hurts their depth for sure.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2010, 01:43:48 PM
Pat, i think wesley will have the ability to go 2 tight end sets with the athletes they have available.  they may not throw to the tight end, but i am sure if the cru decides not to cover them, they will see the ball.  catching it will be a different story.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bob.Gregg on December 03, 2010, 02:05:13 PM
I believe ALL four were on the Wesley 2-deep prior to the events chronicled in the story....

Names removed from roster.  Individual stats removed.....

Credit to Wesley. 
Far too many places say "They haven't been convicted.  They are eligible."
Wesley, apparently, said  "You have been charged.  Your football playing PRIVILEGES have been revoked."
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2010, 02:14:49 PM
bob, that has always been the way drass has handled situations unless something comes up that proves the charges false.  a team member last year had a situation and they were removed from the team, but reinstated when the details turned out to be false.  drass runs a pretty tight ship when it comes to that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2010, 02:20:22 PM
It's real sad to see this happen.  However, I don't think it will have an adverse affect on the team.  Luckily, Wesley has the depth to handle such events and you know Drass and Knapp will be keeping the team focused on what is important at the moment.  Its not like Wesley hasn't had to recover from adversity this year.  There are players eager to step up and get noticed.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 03, 2010, 02:27:40 PM
Well, Im excited for the game tomorrow.... its a shame what those 4 did.... especially what they had going for them. Now you face the consequences. I agree with ski though. If theres one thing Wesley has faced since game 1 is adversity. Looking forward to saturday.

Go Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on December 03, 2010, 02:52:50 PM
Speaking of adversity, is Wesley that much better if they don't lose their QB early in the season or has the new guy stepped in at or around the same level of skill?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2010, 04:55:22 PM
Quote from: crufootball on December 03, 2010, 02:52:50 PM
Speaking of adversity, is Wesley that much better if they don't lose their QB early in the season or has the new guy stepped in at or around the same level of skill?

Well, I can tell you that Justin Sottilaire really stepped up this year.  He has a real accurate arm and a real brain for the game. I think Wesley would be just about the same with either McSweeney or Sottilaire behind the center.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2010, 05:01:41 PM
crufootball

Mc Sweeney was  more of a runner type and ran a option package and his fearless leaps were always a concern.
Sottilare has a gun and has shown it the last few weeks in the wind tunnel at Wesley.
The don't run as many plays for him as they did for McSweeney but the third QB has the ability to run the ball like a fullback( he likes hitting people) and can throw  60 + yrd s  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on December 03, 2010, 05:25:07 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2010, 05:01:41 PM
crufootball

Mc Sweeney was  more of a runner type and ran a option package and his fearless leaps were always a concern.
Sottilare has a gun and has shown it the last few weeks in the wind tunnel at Wesley.
The don't run as many plays for him as they did for McSweeney but the third QB has the ability to run the ball like a fullback( he likes hitting people) and can throw  60 + yrd s  

So will it be three man battle this off season? Gotta keep tabs on you guys since like Jason Bowen there is a good chance we will see each other again.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 04, 2010, 08:17:13 AM
Under armour on,, lots of clothes,, gloves,hats,,,, out the door  on the Way to Wesley ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 04, 2010, 08:21:46 AM
getting ready to hit the road.  excited to see some of the stone station gang at the game today.  safe travels to all making the trip.  this has the makings of a real good one.  hope it turns out that way.  go wesley!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 04, 2010, 08:39:32 AM
Going to make it...Let's Go Wesley


Safe travels to all dress warm it's going to be nasty !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 04, 2010, 08:54:41 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 04, 2010, 08:39:32 AM
Going to make it...Let's Go Wesley


Safe travels to all dress warm it's going to be nasty !!!

Good for you!

The weather is going to be a carbon copy of last week.  Sunny, windy, in the mid 40's. 

Go Wesley!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 04, 2010, 08:59:03 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 04, 2010, 08:54:41 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 04, 2010, 08:39:32 AM
Going to make it...Let's Go Wesley


Safe travels to all dress warm it's going to be nasty !!!

Good for you!

The weather is going to be a carbon copy of last week.  Sunny, windy, in the mid 40's. 

Go Wesley!!

-Ski
That weather won't be that foreign to the UMHB players.

Upper 20's, snow and wind would.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kelly Boggs on December 04, 2010, 02:21:34 PM
Congrats to Wesley on whipping UMHB. The cliché is that defense wins championships. That said, Wesley has a championship D. Hope all goes well for WC in the semis next week.  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 04, 2010, 02:48:04 PM
Congratulations, Wesley!

Win it all!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 04, 2010, 02:54:24 PM
Congrats Wesley........

WesleyDad....one more to go for each...and then the rematch from last year, but in the Stagg this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on December 04, 2010, 03:35:25 PM
Congratulations Wesley!!  IT really was a good game after all.  I sincerely hope you guys make it to the Stagg Bowl. 

I am off to a wedding but will post my comments of the game and UMHB's season on the ASC board later.  Again, hat's off!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 04, 2010, 03:56:38 PM
An OUTSTANDING game today by Wesley.  WELL DONE team!!

The defense was just incredible and offense did what it took to win.  The Crusader defense was stingy on the run, for sure, but the Wolverines got the yardage they needed to dominate the TOP.  

I think UMHB's quick-snap offense (if that is what you call it) hurt them in the long run.  It just enabled Wesley to get the ball back in short order, giving them a ton of opportunities to move the ball and keep the D on the field longer.

I need to see those stats!!

It was great to see wesleydad, PAWesleyfan, Waterboy and to meet the Stone Station guys.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theaprof on December 04, 2010, 04:09:51 PM
Congrats Wesley--keep it up--hope to see you in Salem!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on December 04, 2010, 04:17:27 PM
Congrats to Wesley, y'all played the better game and I wish you good luck next week and beyond.

See you next year  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 04, 2010, 04:50:14 PM
I didn't get to watch the whole game because of work  >:( but what I saw was a very good  D by Wesley doing what it had to do to win.  Congrats to the Wolverines and on to the Stagg.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 04, 2010, 05:04:18 PM
Great job by Wesley. Excellent D, offense, AND special teams. The best part about this win is that next week, there will be a game in Dover! Go Wesley and onto Whitewater!

Side Note: Justin Sottilare tied Chris Warrick for most TD passes in a season with 37. Pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 04, 2010, 05:04:58 PM
great win by wesley.  totally dominated the game on the d side of the ball.  the offense moved it enough to score what was needed.  2 fumbles and a blocked punt and still hold umhb to 9 points.  nothing else has to be said.  if there is a better defense out there, i havnt seen it yet.  semis again, lived up to the #1 seed.  uwww coming to wesley next week will be a little different.  they may be in for culture shock.  no large stadium with a fancy locker room and smoke for an entrance.  just a short walk from the modest clubhouse to the field.  no bells and whistles.  really looking forward to this game.  can wesley make the last step to the stagg?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on December 04, 2010, 05:44:41 PM
Wesley Dad:

Sorry I missed you today.  Putting together the video broadcast took some time.  I'll likely be back next Saturday in some capacity so hopefully we can catch up then.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 04, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
gordon, sorry we missed each other.  hopefully i will see you next week.  heard that you did a nice job on the video, i am not surprised as i have heard your delval broadcasts while i have watched the games.  this should be a real good game.  i know ncc has a good defense but i dont think it is as good as wesley's is.  if that is true and uwww has to go with the 2nd string qb, wesley has a real good chance of winning.  wesley has a better offense than ncc so i think they can score.  if wesley shuts down coppage, they can win the game.  is it next saturday yet?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 04, 2010, 06:07:53 PM
  Some GREAT D by Wesley,,,I don' think the UMBH coaches thought they could run the ball coming in,,a lot of early game passes,,and a lot of 45 second 3 and outs with the hurry up O
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 04, 2010, 09:15:53 PM
Looking at UWW's offensive performance today, I believe that if Wesley's defense performs as they did today, and the Wolverines play clean on both sides of the ball, Wesley has an outstanding shot at a victory next week.  North Central threw the game away with turnovers deep on their end of the field and outgained UWW on offense.  I can't see how UWW rolls into Dover with any substantial advantage.  Let the fight begin.

-Ski

   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: T_Unit14 on December 04, 2010, 09:43:21 PM
teamski and wesleydad...there's no doubt in my mind you guys should roll WW...they aren't much and are just squeaking by against these teams no where as superior as the #1 overall seed wesley...you guys have a ton of experience in these big games and have had succe....well you have experience which is probably more then enough to beat this lackluster WW offense and don't forget that they have that terrible 2nd string QB in there who has gotten lucky these last 3 games...

overall I really don't get why Wesley is being forced to play this game...its not like those games in WW where we had an unfair advantage of a non-stop cannon going off and those snow machines...you guys are clearly the favorites in this game and I'd be shocked if this was a game going into halftime...

I'd say best of luck but lets be honest...WW is going to need all the luck they can get to keep this close
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 04, 2010, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: T_Unit14 on December 04, 2010, 09:43:21 PM
teamski and wesleydad...there's no doubt in my mind you guys should roll WW...they aren't much and are just squeaking by against these teams no where as superior as the #1 overall seed wesley...you guys have a ton of experience in these big games and have had succe....well you have experience which is probably more then enough to beat this lackluster WW offense and don't forget that they have that terrible 2nd string QB in there who has gotten lucky these last 3 games...

overall I really don't get why Wesley is being forced to play this game...its not like those games in WW where we had an unfair advantage of a non-stop cannon going off and those snow machines...you guys are clearly the favorites in this game and I'd be shocked if this was a game going into halftime...

I'd say best of luck but lets be honest...WW is going to need all the luck they can get to keep this close

Deep rooted mid-western sarcasm aside... Is anyone bringing some Spotted Cow to Dover??? I got crazy on that brew when I was in WI last time. I'll trade some Dogfish! Any takers??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 04, 2010, 10:18:00 PM
wesleydad,

Congrats on the Wesley win! You have tough one with UWW, but it can happen! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 05, 2010, 09:02:10 AM
tunit14, i was thinking the complete opposite.  i dont know why the game has to be played either.  you guys are clearly the best team in the country.  wesley has been lucky to get this far.  i am not even sure if i am going to make the trip this weekend, especially if the game will be over by halftime.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 05, 2010, 09:21:40 AM
teamski, yea, looking at the stats from yesterdays uwww game there seems to be some possible areas that wesley can attempt to attack.  uwww seems to give up yards against the pass.  they had 4 sacks and 2 int so they must be getting pressure, so big game needed by o line.  their qb seemed to struggle stat wise, only 113 yards with 50 coming on 1 play.  if wesley can shut down the run, then it seems they may be able to force uwww into throwing which isnt there strong point.  if the starter returns, that may change things.  will wesley be able to run the ball enough to keep uwww honest on d.  that has been the issue in the previous games, also turnovers will hurt.  have to play a clean game, which it seems that if ncc had, the outcome may have been different.  early weather check has chance of showers, mid 40's.  hope that changes to no showers.  dont think it matters to the players, just dont feel like getting wet.  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 05, 2010, 11:58:58 AM
News Journal Photo Gallery:

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=BL&Dato=20101204&Kategori=SPORTS&Lopenr=12040803&Ref=PH&Profile=1002&SectionCat=SPORTS
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on December 05, 2010, 12:15:45 PM
Any word on Krout's health?  There was concern after the game that his injury could be serious.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 05, 2010, 12:26:42 PM
I haven't heard anything.  He was walking around after the game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 05, 2010, 02:28:12 PM
 I would like to see that double move he (Krout)put on for his second td catch again.. Sottilare pumped and all three guys covering bit... Actually wouldn't mind seeing the first td again either. ?He strong armed it up and over some how..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on December 05, 2010, 03:42:17 PM
Call me crazy, but I don't think this upcoming game is going to end like the first two playoff meetings..... ;).

Looks like you have a very talented all-around team out there.

Should be a good one   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 05, 2010, 07:36:04 PM
pawesley, yea it was a nice move and pump fake.  the ball held up a little and the db just missed knocking it away.  krout also did a nice job of keeping a foot in bounds.  could not see the first td from the other end, but we figured he went up and took it away from the db since the db was in front of him.  hope krout is playing this week and his injury was only minor.  hope you are feeling better.  i will try and see you this week.

warhawk, i hope so.  the first 2 meetings were no fun from our perspective.   this is a very balanced team, with a defense that may be the best in d3.  the stats say that, but it only matters on the field.  the key will be to stop the dubs running game and force them to throw.  looks like ncc was able to do that and if not for the turnovers who knows what the outcome would have been.  wesley plays a clean game this should be a good one.  really looking forward to saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 05, 2010, 07:46:37 PM
weselydad

I am not able to walk to far right now. It took me three rest stops to get to my seat. So I don't move around much!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 05, 2010, 07:49:42 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 05, 2010, 07:36:04 PM
pawesley, yea it was a nice move and pump fake.  the ball held up a little and the db just missed knocking it away.  krout also did a nice job of keeping a foot in bounds.  could not see the first td from the other end, but we figured he went up and took it away from the db since the db was in front of him.  hope krout is playing this week and his injury was only minor.  hope you are feeling better.  i will try and see you this week.

warhawk, i hope so.  the first 2 meetings were no fun from our perspective.   this is a very balanced team, with a defense that may be the best in d3.  the stats say that, but it only matters on the field.  the key will be to stop the dubs running game and force them to throw.  looks like ncc was able to do that and if not for the turnovers who knows what the outcome would have been. wesley plays a clean game this should be a good one.  really looking forward to saturday.
Turnovers are caused by great defenses more times than not.  In this case, great WARHAWK DEFENSE!  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 05, 2010, 10:20:04 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 05, 2010, 03:42:17 PM
Call me crazy, but I don't think this upcoming game is going to end like the first two playoff meetings..... ;).

Looks like you have a very talented all-around team out there.

Should be a good one   :)

Remembering back to '05 & '06, Wesley came to Whitewater with the posters talking of a very talented, all-around team at that time. No need to re-hash what happened. As many of you know who were around at that time, many (all?) UWW fans didn't have a high regard for Wesley (that may be an understated characterization) at that time & it's probably solidified in people's conscience today...for various reasons. Fast forward to the present - in your opinion(s), what changes/differences in the Wesley program (on-field and/or off) have occured in the past 4-6 years that you feel will allow them or has allowed them to narrow the gap from then to now? The Warhawks have obviously remained at a high level considering the 5 straight Stagg Bowls. The players are different, the HC (at UWW) is different, your playing at home - are all a few of the different variables this time around. Back then, it was discussed at great length that Wesley didn't match up as well with UWW as you do with everyone else you play. People back then were mighty confident about their Wolverines - and reading various posts around the boards today, it seems nothing has changed. I read somewhere maybe the ASC board (WesleyDad maybe?) that UWW might be in for some culture shock coming to Dover. Please explain? I live in Korea - I think I know what culture shock is; I just don't quite know what you mean. Thanks!!  ;)

EDIT: the culture shock comment was on this page, excuse me, I just read it!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 05, 2010, 11:06:20 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 05, 2010, 10:20:04 PM
 People back then were mighty confident about their Wolverines - and reading various posts around the boards today, it seems nothing has changed. I read somewhere maybe the ASC board (WesleyDad maybe?) that UWW might be in for some culture shock coming to Dover. Please explain? I live in Korea - I think I know what culture shock is; I just don't quite know what you mean. Thanks!!  ;)

Oh brother!  Look, UWW is going to Dover this time around.  For once, Wesley isn't having to travel to a cold climate it isn't used to.  I know Wisconsin weather as I was born and raised in Milwaukee, so don't say anything about the winter weather not being a factor for teams not practicing in it!   The Wesley defense is quite possibly the best the team has ever fielded and with how lackluster the UWW offense is right now, we have cause for optimism.  So, culture shock is a very apt term for this semi-final.   I spent my fair share of time in Saudi, Egypt and Qatar in my 20 years in the service, so there are others out there besides yourself that know what culture shock really is.  We feel that UWW will, too.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 06, 2010, 12:17:30 AM
^ teamski-


I doubt UWW will spend too much time attempting to acclimate themselves to the local culture...

...they will be working too hard to improve their lackluster offense.

BoBo

P.S. your hostility is noted  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 06, 2010, 12:31:30 AM
Quote from: BoBo on December 06, 2010, 12:17:30 AM
^ teamski-


I doubt UWW will spend too much time attempting to acclimate themselves to the local culture...

...they will be working too hard to improve their lackluster offense.

BoBo

P.S. your hostility is noted  ;)

I certainly hope so.  Why some UWW fans expect Wesley players and fans to shake in their shoes over the Warhawks is quite amusing, really.  UWW this year is just not as intimidating as they have been in the past.  As I mentioned it before, it will be settled on the field.  

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: T_Unit14 on December 06, 2010, 12:50:28 AM
I really hope WW can go into Dover and steal a win away from Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: voice on December 06, 2010, 02:16:29 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 06, 2010, 12:31:30 AM
Quote from: BoBo on December 06, 2010, 12:17:30 AM
^ teamski-


I doubt UWW will spend too much time attempting to acclimate themselves to the local culture...

...they will be working too hard to improve their lackluster offense.

BoBo

P.S. your hostility is noted  ;)

I certainly hope so.  Why some UWW fans expect Wesley players and fans to shake in their shoes over the Warhawks is quite amusing, really.  UWW this year is just not as intimidating as they have been in the past.  As I mentioned it before, it will be settled on the field.  

-Ski




I love the bulletin board material Ski - keep it coming ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 06, 2010, 09:03:36 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 05, 2010, 11:06:20 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 05, 2010, 10:20:04 PM
 People back then were mighty confident about their Wolverines - and reading various posts around the boards today, it seems nothing has changed. I read somewhere maybe the ASC board (WesleyDad maybe?) that UWW might be in for some culture shock coming to Dover. Please explain? I live in Korea - I think I know what culture shock is; I just don't quite know what you mean. Thanks!!  ;)

Oh brother! Look, UWW is going to Dover this time around.  For once, Wesley isn't having to travel to a cold climate it isn't used to. I know Wisconsin weather as I was born and raised in Milwaukee, so don't say anything about the winter weather not being a factor for teams not practicing in it!   The Wesley defense is quite possibly the best the team has ever fielded and with how lackluster the UWW offense is right now, we have cause for optimism.  So, culture shock is a very apt term for this semi-final.   I spent my fair share of time in Saudi, Egypt and Qatar in my 20 years in the service, so there are others out there besides yourself that know what culture shock really is.  We feel that UWW will, too.

-Ski
You are right, UWW will not have, "home field advantage," this time around, The selection committee made sure of that so we will just have to make the best of it.  Traveling across the country to play in a big game, I hope the boys can handle it....................oh, and bring the right shoes.  ;)

As for their, "lackluster offense," we won't have much time to improve it so guess we will just have to hope for the best.


TEAM STATISTICS     UWW     OPP
SCORING                545       149
Points Per Game     41.9     11.5
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 06, 2010, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 05, 2010, 11:06:20 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 05, 2010, 10:20:04 PM
 People back then were mighty confident about their Wolverines - and reading various posts around the boards today, it seems nothing has changed. I read somewhere maybe the ASC board (WesleyDad maybe?) that UWW might be in for some culture shock coming to Dover. Please explain? I live in Korea - I think I know what culture shock is; I just don't quite know what you mean. Thanks!!  ;)

Oh brother!  Look, UWW is going to Dover this time around.  For once, Wesley isn't having to travel to a cold climate it isn't used to.  I know Wisconsin weather as I was born and raised in Milwaukee, so don't say anything about the winter weather not being a factor for teams not practicing in it!   The Wesley defense is quite possibly the best the team has ever fielded and with how lackluster the UWW offense is right now, we have cause for optimism.  So, culture shock is a very apt term for this semi-final.   I spent my fair share of time in Saudi, Egypt and Qatar in my 20 years in the service, so there are others out there besides yourself that know what culture shock really is.  We feel that UWW will, too.

-Ski

You are too funny ski!  UW-W has scored 117 points in the playoffs to Wesley's 116.  UW-W just scored 20 against the 3rd ranked defense in the country and Wesley scored 19 against the 100th ranked defense in the country.  If UW-W's offense is lackluster, how would you describe Wesley's?   ;D  This is going to be a fun week filled with lots of laughs reading your posts!  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 06, 2010, 10:57:40 AM
BoBo, i will answer the culture shock question since i posted it.  what i meant was that the atmospshere will be greatly different than at uwww since wesley's facilities are so much smaller than what uwww is used.  our home and away stands would fit into your away stands and there would still be room left over.  wesley has a modest locker room compared to uwww's.  it will be a totally different feel to the game for them.  i think many of the facilities in the wiac are similar to their's, if not then there will not be as much of a culture shock as i thought.  my comment had nothing to do with culture as in how we live in this area compared to wisconsin.  Having attended the o6 game, the facility at uwww is impressive and certainly has an effect on the visiting team.  familiarity certainly comes into play as teams travel as schedules change and all the other stuff that goes with it.  i will answer your other questions later today, at work now and only had short time to post this.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 06, 2010, 11:04:36 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 06, 2010, 10:21:59 AM

You are too funny ski!  UW-W has scored 117 points in the playoffs to Wesley's 116.  UW-W just scored 20 against the 3rd ranked defense in the country and Wesley scored 19 against the 100th ranked defense in the country.  If UW-W's offense is lackluster, how would you describe Wesley's?   ;D  This is going to be a fun week filled with lots of laughs reading your posts!  ;D

Well,  you just proved my point:  All things being equal.  Wesley hung 44 points on the nation's #9 defense of Montclair State, while UWW put about the same amount of points against with Trine's 53rd ranked defense coming into this week.  We have as much right to be confident in our team as you do yours.  I don't think that UWW will be waltzing into Dover and walking over the Wolverines.  You might think so, but the nation's #1 ranked defense will be ready to play on its home turf.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 06, 2010, 11:11:15 AM
Congratulations to Wesley College on tying Delaware Valley in leading the nation with 101 penalties. That's hard to do!

Their ranking of 214th with 30 turnovers is impressive, too.  

While this week will be fun, it is also highly predictable.  A couple of you will yap and talk big all week about how Wesley is such a great team, UW-W will come in and pound the rock for four quarters, the game will be close for about 3 quarters, Wesley will turn the ball over as they tire, and UW-W will dominate the fourth quarter like they always do. Then, the posters who were talking big all week will be crying about the "ifs" and "buts" and the turnovers and how Wesley would have won if they played a clean game.  I will give Wesley credit, they have cleaned up their penalties in the playoffs. Not surprising given they are the National Committee's shining #1 overall seed.  But they have still fumbled 4 times over the past 3 games, way too many. When athletes are tired, they revert to bad habits. They begin grabbing instead of exploding and their concentration is affected, which causes mistakes.  Discipline is crucial for a team to function late in close games.  Practice habits, character, and attention to detail become paramount late in close games.  Say what you want about UW-W, but they have played 3 close playoff games and outscored their opponents 48-0 in the fourth quarter of those games.  

Wesley isn't a team with sufficient discipline built into them to beat a team like UW-W.  No matter how badly you want it to happen, it won't. For five years, UW-W has pretty much done the same thing.  You'll see it again on Saturday. And you will be left shaking your head, falsely thinking Wesley just made their critical mistakes by happenstance.  It wasn't happenstance. It was UW-W.  Again.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on December 06, 2010, 11:25:19 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 06, 2010, 11:11:15 AM
Congratulations to Wesley College on tying Delaware Valley in leading the nation with 101 penalties. That's hard to do!

Their ranking of 214th with 30 turnovers is impressive, too.  

While this week will be fun, it is also highly predictable.  A couple of you will yap and talk big all week about how Wesley is such a great team, UW-W will come in and pound the rock for four quarters, the game will be close for about 3 quarters, Wesley will turn the ball over as they tire, and UW-W will dominate the fourth quarter like they always do. Then, the posters who were talking big all week will be crying about the "ifs" and "buts" and the turnovers and how Wesley would have won if they played a clean game.  I will give Wesley credit, they have cleaned up their penalties in the playoffs. Not surprising given they are the National Committee's shining #1 overall seed.  But they have still fumbled 4 times over the past 3 games, way too many. When athletes are tired, they revert to bad habits. They begin grabbing instead of exploding and their concentration is affected, which causes mistakes.  Discipline is crucial for a team to function late in close games.  Practice habits, character, and attention to detail become paramount late in close games.  Say what you want about UW-W, but they have played 3 close playoff games and outscored their opponents 48-0 in the fourth quarter of those games.  

Wesley isn't a team with sufficient discipline built into them to beat a team like UW-W.  No matter how badly you want it to happen, it won't. For five years, UW-W has pretty much done the same thing.  You'll see it again on Saturday. And you will be left shaking your head, falsely thinking Wesley just made their critical mistakes by happenstance.  It wasn't happenstance. It was UW-W.  Again.  ;)

BP....i think you just lost your chance at becoming facebook friends with Wesley fans   ;).

Between Wesley and UWW, this could be an ugly penalized game....UWW has been known for stupid penalties too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MasterJedi on December 06, 2010, 11:28:34 AM
I hope Wesley has the same attitude as you guys do, it'll show in their practices and how they play the game.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Barber Greene on December 06, 2010, 11:43:03 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 06, 2010, 10:57:40 AM
BoBo, i will answer the culture shock question since i posted it.  what i meant was that the atmospshere will be greatly different than at uwww since wesley's facilities are so much smaller than what uwww is used.  our home and away stands would fit into your away stands and there would still be room left over.  wesley has a modest locker room compared to uwww's.  it will be a totally different feel to the game for them.  i think many of the facilities in the wiac are similar to their's, if not then there will not be as much of a culture shock as i thought.  my comment had nothing to do with culture as in how we live in this area compared to wisconsin.  Having attended the o6 game, the facility at uwww is impressive and certainly has an effect on the visiting team.  familiarity certainly comes into play as teams travel as schedules change and all the other stuff that goes with it.  i will answer your other questions later today, at work now and only had short time to post this.

I'm sorry, you must be unaware that Whitewater has to play at UW-River Falls  ;)

http://www2.uwrf.edu/photo_archive/02010/101023football/index.html
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 06, 2010, 12:14:19 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 06, 2010, 12:11:19 PM
I love being outnumbered by UWW fans and getting smitted repeatedly.  That is class.   I could smite everybody for airing their opinions, but I don't.

I haven't said anything about Wesley stomping UWW if that is what you guys are getting out of my postings.  I am saying that Wesley will play hard and should match whatever UWW has to offer.  Overall, Wesley has really cleaned up its game, and it shows.   

-Ski
I never smite and only applaud.  But glad to know you didn't smite me, cuz you aren't the only one losing karma around here.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 06, 2010, 12:20:03 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 06, 2010, 11:11:15 AM
Congratulations to Wesley College on tying Delaware Valley in leading the nation with 101 penalties. That's hard to do!

Their ranking of 214th with 30 turnovers is impressive, too.  

While this week will be fun, it is also highly predictable.  A couple of you will yap and talk big all week about how Wesley is such a great team, UW-W will come in and pound the rock for four quarters, the game will be close for about 3 quarters, Wesley will turn the ball over as they tire, and UW-W will dominate the fourth quarter like they always do. Then, the posters who were talking big all week will be crying about the "ifs" and "buts" and the turnovers and how Wesley would have won if they played a clean game.  I will give Wesley credit, they have cleaned up their penalties in the playoffs. Not surprising given they are the National Committee's shining #1 overall seed.  But they have still fumbled 4 times over the past 3 games, way too many. When athletes are tired, they revert to bad habits. They begin grabbing instead of exploding and their concentration is affected, which causes mistakes.  Discipline is crucial for a team to function late in close games.  Practice habits, character, and attention to detail become paramount late in close games.  Say what you want about UW-W, but they have played 3 close playoff games and outscored their opponents 48-0 in the fourth quarter of those games.  

Wesley isn't a team with sufficient discipline built into them to beat a team like UW-W.  No matter how badly you want it to happen, it won't. For five years, UW-W has pretty much done the same thing.  You'll see it again on Saturday. And you will be left shaking your head, falsely thinking Wesley just made their critical mistakes by happenstance.  It wasn't happenstance. It was UW-W.  Again.  ;)

Your discipline argument doesn't hold water.  Wesley only committed 10 penalties in the last 3 games while UWW committed 19.  I think Wesley is more disciplined than you might think.  Only 1 penalty against UMHB.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: badgerwarhawk on December 06, 2010, 01:04:08 PM
If the pattern holds true Wesley will not be penalized on Saturday.  Trine was penalized 14 times in the game prior to their matchup with WHITEWATER and only committed 1 five yard penalty in the game.  North Central was penalized 6 times in their previous game but only 3 times against the WARHAWKS.  So far only Franklin committed more penalties in their match up with WHITEWATER than the previous week though the previous game was a regular season one.  Increasing from 4 to 6 however 3 of the 6 occured on their last possession.    Wesley shouldn't have a problem. 

KABOOM  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WarhawkDad on December 06, 2010, 01:54:36 PM
Enough with the rethoric!   I just want to know who is towing the cannon to Delaware!   :D 8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 06, 2010, 01:57:55 PM
Quote from: WarhawkDad on December 06, 2010, 01:54:36 PM
Enough with the rethoric!   I just want to know who is towing the cannon to Delaware!   :D 8-)

I can see it now, being offloaded off of the equipment rental truck, hehehe....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 06, 2010, 02:20:07 PM
barber, thanks for the pictures.  i dont think we are as small as that, but i am sure there will be more people in the stands.  as i said, i was not sure how all the facilities were in the wiac but i would be surprised if many are like wesley is.  if i am wrong it wont be the first time, but i know i am right when i say that the atmosphere will not be as elaborate as uwww home games.

it would be nice to have someone come here and make points as to why uwww is so superior instead of the usual lame references to the shoes and cannon.  bring something to the discussion that has substance.  ski and i will gladly debate relevant points, but the usual uwww arrogance continues to show in your posts.  i am well aware as to how good you have been in the past, i have seen you in the last 4 stagg bowls and the 06 game with wesley.  actually cheered for your team in each game as i wanted to see someone other than mount win.  bobo asked some good questions which i will be glad to respond to later.  insults are easy, i can throw them out as good as anyone.  i will have opinions about the game and gladly share them with you, some will be stat based others will be feelings i have about this team this year.  ready and willing to debate them.  i will not run after the game, if you monkey stomp us as you like to say then i will congratulate you as i have done in the past.  looking forward to the rest of the week, maybe someone will want to actually discuss the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on December 06, 2010, 02:51:01 PM
to tell you the truth, I don't have any STRONG points on why UWW will win this weekend.

At least last week, I was able to say (with confidence) that I didn't see how NCC was going to put up points against UWW.

Looking at the statistics, Wesley has a better offense, with a slightly stronger D (than NCC)....so, I don't think either team has a HUGE edge over the other. I guess that's the way it's suppose to be in the semi's (unless you're mount union  ;)).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 06, 2010, 03:28:59 PM
For the most part, I think you will find that we are a pretty good group overall with a few exceptions.  Can talk stats, X's and O's without too much bravado but this post season has taken on a different twist with the committee deciding that the defending national champs who, again, ran the table in one of the toughest conferences in the country did not warrant a spot in the top 4? We have had to defend winning with a back-up QB every week because it was not by enough points.  On paper, does the Wolverines, as well as any opponent especially this time of the year, have a chance to beat us?  Absolutely and it very well could happen! But our offense is pretty good having scored 545 points this season and our defense is pretty good having given up only 149 and our history, (I know, a four letter word,) does show that our staff is pretty good and does have experience playing Wesley.  Whose defense ranks #1 or #5 at this time of the year doesn't mean squat in my opinion when only 4 teams remain.  You played apples, we played oranges, so stats only go so far when comparing two teams.  It comes down more to the intangibles at this point in the tourny, IMHO.
And sorry for the shoe crack, I just couldn't help myself.   8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rscl70 on December 06, 2010, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 06, 2010, 02:20:07 PM
barber, thanks for the pictures.  i dont think we are as small as that, but i am sure there will be more people in the stands.  as i said, i was not sure how all the facilities were in the wiac but i would be surprised if many are like wesley is.  if i am wrong it wont be the first time, but i know i am right when i say that the atmosphere will not be as elaborate as uwww home games.

it would be nice to have someone come here and make points as to why uwww is so superior instead of the usual lame references to the shoes and cannon.  bring something to the discussion that has substance.  ski and i will gladly debate relevant points, but the usual uwww arrogance continues to show in your posts.  i am well aware as to how good you have been in the past, i have seen you in the last 4 stagg bowls and the 06 game with wesley.  actually cheered for your team in each game as i wanted to see someone other than mount win.  bobo asked some good questions which i will be glad to respond to later.  insults are easy, i can throw them out as good as anyone.  i will have opinions about the game and gladly share them with you, some will be stat based others will be feelings i have about this team this year.  ready and willing to debate them.  i will not run after the game, if you monkey stomp us as you like to say then i will congratulate you as i have done in the past.  looking forward to the rest of the week, maybe someone will want to actually discuss the game.

Darn wesleydad, I was hoping your team would win 'til I saw this!  Now I have to cheer for the Wa....hack, choke, gag....rhawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 06, 2010, 04:34:57 PM
If I can say one thing about Wesley this season... its how theyve handled adversity...IMHO better than anyone else in Division III. Theyve had to deal with it from the third play of the season when they lost All-American QB Shane McSweeny, and the losses of an All-American TE, very good slot reciever, those arrests, and multiple other incidents. They wouldnt be here now if they couldnt handle that adversity. The same with discipline.... how in the heck do you win 60-70 games in the past 6 years without discipline? Wesley is a disciplined football team. This game is going to be another good one......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 06, 2010, 04:57:48 PM
As a uninvolved party (for THIS week anyway) who has seen both teams play in person last year, and online this year, I think this game is a very good match-up.  There is no doubt UWW's ground game is much better than Wesley's, but I would give Wesley's passing attack the edge over UWW.  Wesley's defense definitely has the edge, although UWW has shown the ability to clamp down in 4th quarters here in the play-offs. 

I think one big "intangible" that most seem to discount is at play here.  Until Wesley actually wins a semi-final game against UWW (or Mount for that matter), they will have to be considered the underdog.  Posters on here repeatedly say that previous years have no bearing on this year, but I definitely think that is not true. 

As an example, I think Rowan was definitely better than Mount talent-wise back in the 90's Stagg match-ups.  However, Mount always had Rowan's number.  Until they finally broke through and beat them in OT in 99, they were always the bridesmaid.  Of course they then went on the next week to get handled by PLU in the Stagg.

RSCL - yah WesleyDad always cheers against the Raiders.  He is just a hater, but he still is tolerable (most of the time).   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2010, 05:19:48 PM
footballfan413

here are Wesley's stats


                           WES  OPP 
SCORING             502  136 
Points Per Game  41.8  11.3 

  and the stats you provided

TEAM STATISTICS     UWW     OPP
SCORING                545       149
Points Per Game     41.9     11.5

looks like a wash to me

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 06, 2010, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 06, 2010, 02:20:07 PM
barber, thanks for the pictures.  i dont think we are as small as that, but i am sure there will be more people in the stands.  as i said, i was not sure how all the facilities were in the wiac but i would be surprised if many are like wesley is.  if i am wrong it wont be the first time, but i know i am right when i say that the atmosphere will not be as elaborate as uwww home games.

it would be nice to have someone come here and make points as to why uwww is so superior instead of the usual lame references to the shoes and cannon.  bring something to the discussion that has substance.  ski and i will gladly debate relevant points, but the usual uwww arrogance continues to show in your posts.  i am well aware as to how good you have been in the past, i have seen you in the last 4 stagg bowls and the 06 game with wesley.  actually cheered for your team in each game as i wanted to see someone other than mount win.  bobo asked some good questions which i will be glad to respond to later.  insults are easy, i can throw them out as good as anyone.  i will have opinions about the game and gladly share them with you, some will be stat based others will be feelings i have about this team this year.  ready and willing to debate them.  i will not run after the game, if you monkey stomp us as you like to say then i will congratulate you as i have done in the past.  looking forward to the rest of the week, maybe someone will want to actually discuss the game.

Dude, you are so off my Christmas card list..........
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 06, 2010, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2010, 05:19:48 PM
footballfan413

here are Wesley's stats


                          WES  OPP  
SCORING             502  136  
Points Per Game  41.8  11.3  

 and the stats you provided

TEAM STATISTICS     UWW     OPP
SCORING                545       149
Points Per Game     41.9     11.5

looks like a wash to me
I agree. Seems like a wash to me also when you are comparing the teams against each other.  The reason I posted our points scored and points scored against totals was in response to Ski's comment about UWW having a, "lackluster," offense.  Seems that the Wolverines offense, on paper anyway, is just as, "lackluster."    ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 06, 2010, 06:11:25 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 05, 2010, 10:20:04 PM
what changes/differences in the Wesley program (on-field and/or off) have occured in the past 4-6 years that you feel will allow them or has allowed them to narrow the gap from then to now?

Keith and I asked and gave our opinion on this hypothetical on the podcast this morning, too. I agree that part of the change that has to have happened in order for this game to go in Wesley's favor must be something that isn't visible.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 06, 2010, 06:24:58 PM
Wesleydad and Ski,

All right, so you are more interested in discussing football than trash talking.  I'll tone it down a bit then.  ;)

I will note that my "direct" post about how I saw the game going was still a response to ski's comment that the UW-W offense is "lackluster". 

Without commenting on Wesley at all, I will restate my point.  I believe UW-W's strength and advantage lies with the line offensively and the front seven defensively.  I have seen team after team wear down by the fourth quarter.  So, in short, I believe it will happen again.

I don't expect Wesley fans or players to be intimidated or afraid of UW-W.  But I doubt they were in 06 or 07 either.  UW-W was simply quite a bit better those years, especially in the line.  Maybe Wesley has completely erased the gap.

UW-W will not have any doubts about winning the game. Not in a disrespectful way.  They respect every opponent and prepare fiercely every week.  I don't know if Wesley will have doubts or not.  I do believe that if Wesley is going to win, they will have to earn it.  If they do, I will offer my congratulations to them.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 06, 2010, 06:30:20 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 06, 2010, 11:04:36 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 06, 2010, 10:21:59 AM

You are too funny ski!  UW-W has scored 117 points in the playoffs to Wesley's 116.  UW-W just scored 20 against the 3rd ranked defense in the country and Wesley scored 19 against the 100th ranked defense in the country.  If UW-W's offense is lackluster, how would you describe Wesley's?   ;D  This is going to be a fun week filled with lots of laughs reading your posts!  ;D

Well,  you just proved my point:  All things being equal.  Wesley hung 44 points on the nation's #9 defense of Montclair State, while UWW put about the same amount of points against with Trine's 53rd ranked defense coming into this week.  We have as much right to be confident in our team as you do yours.  I don't think that UWW will be waltzing into Dover and walking over the Wolverines.  You might think so, but the nation's #1 ranked defense will be ready to play on its home turf.

-Ski

Huh? So the fact that UW-W scored more points against the #3 defense than Wesley scored against the #100 ranked defense proves your point about the UW-W offense being lackluster? You must be either an attorney or a politician with that kind of logic!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WarhawkDad on December 06, 2010, 06:40:52 PM
Quote from: HScoach on December 06, 2010, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 06, 2010, 02:20:07 PM
barber, thanks for the pictures.  i dont think we are as small as that, but i am sure there will be more people in the stands.  as i said, i was not sure how all the facilities were in the wiac but i would be surprised if many are like wesley is.  if i am wrong it wont be the first time, but i know i am right when i say that the atmosphere will not be as elaborate as uwww home games.

it would be nice to have someone come here and make points as to why uwww is so superior instead of the usual lame references to the shoes and cannon.  bring something to the discussion that has substance.  ski and i will gladly debate relevant points, but the usual uwww arrogance continues to show in your posts.  i am well aware as to how good you have been in the past, i have seen you in the last 4 stagg bowls and the 06 game with wesley.  actually cheered for your team in each game as i wanted to see someone other than mount win.  bobo asked some good questions which i will be glad to respond to later.  insults are easy, i can throw them out as good as anyone.  i will have opinions about the game and gladly share them with you, some will be stat based others will be feelings i have about this team this year.  ready and willing to debate them.  i will not run after the game, if you monkey stomp us as you like to say then i will congratulate you as i have done in the past.  looking forward to the rest of the week, maybe someone will want to actually discuss the game.

Dude, you are so off my Christmas card list..........

LOL  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 06, 2010, 06:42:41 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 06, 2010, 06:30:20 PM
Huh? So the fact that UW-W scored more points against the #3 defense than Wesley scored against the #100 ranked defense proves your point about the UW-W offense being lackluster? You must be either an attorney or a politician with that kind of logic!  ;)


I am definately neither, hehehe.... What I was trying to get across and what PAWesleyfan showed through his comparison of the stats is that there seems to be a lot more parity than what the UWW fans believe.  Thank you for your comments above, they were well stated.   :)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 06, 2010, 06:43:16 PM
Hey Warhawk fans: Out of curiousity, whats the QB situation looking like? Brekke or Blanchard? I think I heard on the podcast that Brekke was the most likely (dont trust me on that though).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 06, 2010, 06:52:52 PM
now warhawk fans, that is what i am talking about.  have some stuff i have to do but will be back to answer bobo's questions.

skunks and hscoach, it was a rough day and u 2 have me laughing my a@# off.  thanks, needed that.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 06, 2010, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 06, 2010, 06:43:16 PM
Hey Warhawk fans: Out of curiousity, whats the QB situation looking like? Brekke or Blanchard? I think I heard on the podcast that Brekke was the most likely (dont trust me on that though).

I'm sure it will be termed a game-time decision again but that doesn't mean we believe it. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 06, 2010, 07:59:54 PM
bobo, in response to your questions which i found to be on point.  what has wesley done to close the gap in the last couple of years.  first is the defense, it is much better than it was 4 - 5 years ago.  the stats show it, but i am not much of a stat guy.  i have seen plenty of football the past 7 years since my son started going to wesley and i have not seen a defense this good.  big, strong, and fast.  they stop the run, put pressure on the qb with little blizting and can cover.  they are plain and simple tough to score on.  o has 6 turnovers against delval and only 17 points, 3 turnovers against umhb and only 9 points, only 3 off the to's.  when they played uww years back the offense relied more on the pass than the run and it hurt when uww controlled the line of scrimmage with 4 rushers, taking away the passing lanes.  plus, this was all new to wesley and i think they were slightly intimidated by the situation as most teams are the first few times.  i think wesley found out last year that they can play with the big boys as the game was in doubt until the 4th quarter when cecil took over.  i agree with skunksidekick, until wesley wins the semi game they will always be questioned as to if they are good enough or not.  i also have seen something different from the way the game has been played by the team.  i think the coaches have stepped up their game too.  we shall see saturday.  this should be a good game and i think wesley has a good shot of winning it.  if uww has trouble covering the pass as they have thus far in the playoffs then they may be in trouble.  can not wait until saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Olinemom on December 06, 2010, 09:23:23 PM
Congrats to Wesley, DAD!!  You'all played an excellent game and sent UMHB back to Texas.  And you get to host a semi-final game this coming Saturday!  That's exciting, I know.  Of course, it would be my team coming to town so I can't be neutral in this game.  I hope for a good game between 2 excellent teams, but I have to root for my guys.  I'm afraid to come up because I'm afraid I'll jinx them.  I remember the last time I came to Delaware.  Besides freezing to death almost and getting beat to boot was not my favorite time.  But I'll be at the Stagg Bowl and can't wait to see you'all and cheer for whoever makes it there.  You guys have a great time this weekend!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 06, 2010, 11:18:03 PM
Have a few comments to jam into one post:

Quote from: Teamski on December 06, 2010, 01:57:55 PM
Quote from: WarhawkDad on December 06, 2010, 01:54:36 PM
Enough with the rethoric!   I just want to know who is towing the cannon to Delaware!   :D 8-)

I can see it now, being offloaded off of the equipment rental truck, hehehe....

-Ski

It's going to be a little hard to off-load!! Well, take a look HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Wpq_vECPI).  WARNING: turn down your computers volume

A couple of other tidbits:

* Thanks wesleydad for the answers.
* the lackluster offense comment was actually:
Quotelackluster the UWW offense is right now
I thought teamski was referring to only the NCC game (not the entire year like many of my colleagues posted about) because we only scored 20 points and came in 2nd in most offensive stat categories for the game. My guess is he only looked at the stats and didn't see/hear the game. If he did, he would have known that UWW had a starting average starting point around the 48 yard line, while NCC started closer to the 20 - so more ability to gain more yards and first downs. It's true we only scored 20, but that was 9 more than we needed; that was exactly the same as Wesley, except you only scored 19 points. The season totals are nearly identical, as has been pointed out, but playing vastly different competition making it difficult to gauge the similarities.

Quote from: thewaterboy on December 06, 2010, 04:34:57 PM
Theyve had to deal with it from the third play of the season when they lost All-American QB Shane McSweeny, and the losses of an All-American TE, very good slot reciever, those arrests, and multiple other incidents.

I saw the all-american list from d3football.com and I didn't see the name of Shane McSweeny on it. When and where did he make an all-american team? Thanks. Losing you starter on the 3rd play of the season had to be quite shocking to everyone - will he be back next year? I saw the name of a Jr. TE from Wesley as an honorable mention selection in '09, however. He was pre-season '10 2nd team, too. I guess one of those arrested was his back-up?

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 06, 2010, 06:11:25 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 05, 2010, 10:20:04 PM
what changes/differences in the Wesley program (on-field and/or off) have occured in the past 4-6 years that you feel will allow them or has allowed them to narrow the gap from then to now?

Keith and I asked and gave our opinion on this hypothetical on the podcast this morning, too. I agree that part of the change that has to have happened in order for this game to go in Wesley's favor must be something that isn't visible.

I heard that. I thought this podcast was the best of the year...content and sound quality!!  ;)

Quote from: wesleydad on December 06, 2010, 02:20:07 PM
bobo asked some good questions which i will be glad to respond to later.  

After comments like this, I feel like the Karma Saint Nick, wesleydad!! +K
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 07, 2010, 08:13:30 AM
Wesley's receivers have very impressive stats! 6 players over 15 ypc!  That's pretty ridiculous.  Do they go deep really often or does their passing game emphasize YAC?  I'm sure with stats like that, the answer would have to be BOTH, but I'd be interested in reading fans' take on their strengths.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on December 07, 2010, 12:04:03 PM
Speaking of recievers, do any of the Wesley fans know how Ellis Krout found his way all the way to Dover? Don't see a lot of players traveling that far from home for D3 programs so I am wondering if there is some connection that isn't obvious.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 07, 2010, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: crufootball on December 07, 2010, 12:04:03 PM
Speaking of recievers, do any of the Wesley fans know how Ellis Krout found his way all the way to Dover? Don't see a lot of players traveling that far from home for D3 programs so I am wondering if there is some connection that isn't obvious.


Krout was at a junior college in California and the signed with Oregon. One of his buddies at the JC, RB Garrett Burgess, came to Wesley. I believe he got hurt at Oregon and transferred during the Spring to one of the D-II schools in Minnesota. Not liking the weather and the offensive philosophy he left.

Burgess told him about Wesley and convinced him to come. Funny thing was when he emailed Coach Drass, Drass sent him the type of email that you send to recruits that you don't want to come in until school starts due to budgeting of meals during camp based on a certain numbers of players. Fortunately for the Wolverines, the got that straighten out and he reported on time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: emma17 on December 07, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
30 Second Time out please.   
I'd love to hit an Oyster Bar while in the area.  Are there any decent places nearby?

Thanks
Back to the football game.  Although Krout is a stud, I'm very impressed with the number of players that have caught passes.  Looks like Wesley does a fine job of preventing double coverage.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 07, 2010, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 06, 2010, 11:18:03 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 06, 2010, 04:34:57 PM
Theyve had to deal with it from the third play of the season when they lost All-American QB Shane McSweeny, and the losses of an All-American TE, very good slot reciever, those arrests, and multiple other incidents.
I saw the all-american list from d3football.com and I didn't see the name of Shane McSweeny on it. When and where did he make an all-american team? Thanks. Losing you starter on the 3rd play of the season had to be quite shocking to everyone - will he be back next year? I saw the name of a Jr. TE from Wesley as an honorable mention selection in '09, however. He was pre-season '10 2nd team, too. I guess one of those arrested was his back-up?

Potential All-American in McSweeny... that seems more fitting....  Hes a very good QB that can run and throw and is a great leader. I would have to believe that he is coming back next year.

And yes, the one arrested (Travis Douglas) was McAndrew's back up, so Wesley is reaching deep at the TE position currently.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 07, 2010, 06:34:04 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 06, 2010, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 06, 2010, 06:43:16 PM
Hey Warhawk fans: Out of curiousity, whats the QB situation looking like? Brekke or Blanchard? I think I heard on the podcast that Brekke was the most likely (dont trust me on that though).

I'm sure it will be termed a game-time decision again but that doesn't mean we believe it. :)

Come on Pat.  None of the first 3 games were worthy of him playing.  He's fine.  They're just hiding him from Mount like we hid Micheli from them in '06.  ;)

Honestly, I think last week against NCC was the most telling.  In the Trine game, the UWW offense wasn't a problem with Coppage running for 300+ so why risk playing him if he was banged up, but could go if needed.  However down 13-10 to NCC and needing to get the offense going is a whole lot different than tied at 31-31 with Trine entering the 4th and needing the defense to step up.    What does Blanchard do to help the team other than offer an emotional boost?  Now if he was an injured All-American DE or CB that they didn't want to play, then it's a different story against Trine. 

When Mount wouldn't let Micheli throw in the St John Fisher game where Kmic ran for 371, Mount always had a lead.  What would have been interesting is if SJF would have ever taken a lead or stopped Kmic.  What would it have taken for LK to take the shackles off of Micheli's arm?  I'm guessing if Mount was trailing 13-10 late in the game, LK would have let Micheli sling it. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 07, 2010, 07:20:03 PM
Quote from: HScoach on December 07, 2010, 06:34:04 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 06, 2010, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 06, 2010, 06:43:16 PM
Hey Warhawk fans: Out of curiousity, whats the QB situation looking like? Brekke or Blanchard? I think I heard on the podcast that Brekke was the most likely (dont trust me on that though).

I'm sure it will be termed a game-time decision again but that doesn't mean we believe it. :)

Come on Pat.  None of the first 3 games were worthy of him playing.  He's fine.  They're just hiding him from Mount like we hid Micheli from them in '06.  ;)

Honestly, I think last week against NCC was the most telling.  In the Trine game, the UWW offense wasn't a problem with Coppage running for 300+ so why risk playing him if he was banged up, but could go if needed.  However down 13-10 to NCC and needing to get the offense going is a whole lot different than tied at 31-31 with Trine entering the 4th and needing the defense to step up.    What does Blanchard do to help the team other than offer an emotional boost?  Now if he was an injured All-American DE or CB that they didn't want to play, then it's a different story against Trine.  

When Mount wouldn't let Micheli throw in the St John Fisher game where Kmic ran for 371, Mount always had a lead.  What would have been interesting is if SJF would have ever taken a lead or stopped Kmic.  What would it have taken for LK to take the shackles off of Micheli's arm?  I'm guessing if Mount was trailing 13-10 late in the game, LK would have let Micheli sling it.  
Let me be clear, I do not have any inside info but my guess is that it is a week to week decision.  Each week that passes is another week to heal.  

Hscoach, how well I remember.  We had Jorris's number the beginning of the game and then out comes his back up ??? and  he proceeded to kick our a$$!  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 07, 2010, 07:37:28 PM
^ No inside information either, but going out on a limb (and I'm probably all by my lonesome) but IMO, Blanchard will start this week. You heard it here first, folks!!  ;)

My reason is that this was the first weekly podcast that THE coach didn't specifically talk about Blanchard and his status. The previous weeks he always seem to mention it was a game time decision - this week was a bit different feeling for me. We'll see.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 07, 2010, 08:05:21 PM
bobo, could it be that he did not talk about it because he knows blanchard is not playing and there is no further discussion necessary.  i dont think it matters for wesleys prep.  sounds like there is not much difference except for experience and that doesnt matter when you prep.  have to stop the offense.  if the starter is not there then some of the d calls will surely change but i doubt they have a completely different game plan for brekke.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 07, 2010, 08:38:22 PM
^ They do have different styles, Brekke is more a drop back, pocket passer, hangs on to the ball inorder to find a receiver breaking open. Blanchard will move around more when looking to pass. Iif nothing is there, will take off running. Rarely any pressure gets to Blanchard since, well first since the o-line keep the defense off him, but if there was pressure he would take off running. He's got more size than Brekke and doesn't shy away from contact. Brekke has faced some pressure because he is more likely to hold the ball longer and not run. Places a lot more pressure on his o-line to maintain their technique longer. Not quite the physical presence, either.

My gut instinct tells me the reason Blanchard's status this week wasn't brought up is that he will, in fact, be the starter this week. That's the sense I get after listen to the podcasts each week. I may be way off, but we'll see. Brekke's done a remarkable job leading the hawks through 3 very good teams (I heard on the radio during last game his efficiency numbers would put him #3 in the country behind Blanchard who is #2), but Blanchard brings a different dimension than Brekke, IMO.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 07, 2010, 08:56:40 PM
thanks bobo.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 08, 2010, 09:41:09 AM
Quote from: emma17 on December 07, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
30 Second Time out please.   
I'd love to hit an Oyster Bar while in the area.  Are there any decent places nearby?

Thanks
Back to the football game.  Although Krout is a stud, I'm very impressed with the number of players that have caught passes.  Looks like Wesley does a fine job of preventing double coverage.



Doc Magrogan's is an oyster bar at Dover Downs in the Casino out by the race track. That is probably your best bet in Dover.

You could go down to Rehoboth and Dewey Beach about 45-50 minutes south. There are outlets there for xmas shopping and there's no sales tax in Delaware. Otherwise, the Dover Mall is right next to the track/casino too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 08, 2010, 10:42:13 AM
Quote from: Conrad on December 08, 2010, 09:41:09 AM
Quote from: emma17 on December 07, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
30 Second Time out please.   
I'd love to hit an Oyster Bar while in the area.  Are there any decent places nearby?

Thanks
Back to the football game.  Although Krout is a stud, I'm very impressed with the number of players that have caught passes.  Looks like Wesley does a fine job of preventing double coverage.



Doc Magrogan's is an oyster bar at Dover Downs in the Casino out by the race track. That is probably your best bet in Dover.

You could go down to Rehoboth and Dewey Beach about 45-50 minutes south. There are outlets there for xmas shopping and there's no sales tax in Delaware. Otherwise, the Dover Mall is right next to the track/casino too.

Good choice Conrad. Also, if you want to get off the beaten path (just a bit) head down State Street Extended to "Cool Springs Fish and Raw Bar" about 4 miles south of campus. Good eats for fresh fish and seafood and other good stuff. You can have some Dogfish Head brews there too. If you haven't seen it on Discovery channel yet, check out Brew Masters.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WarhawkDad on December 08, 2010, 11:08:46 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 06, 2010, 06:43:16 PM
Hey Warhawk fans: Out of curiousity, whats the QB situation looking like? Brekke or Blanchard? I think I heard on the podcast that Brekke was the most likely (dont trust me on that though).
See my recent post on the West Region, WIAC Board ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 08, 2010, 01:39:52 PM
Quote from: Conrad on December 08, 2010, 09:41:09 AM
Quote from: emma17 on December 07, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
30 Second Time out please.   
I'd love to hit an Oyster Bar while in the area.  Are there any decent places nearby?

Thanks
Back to the football game.  Although Krout is a stud, I'm very impressed with the number of players that have caught passes.  Looks like Wesley does a fine job of preventing double coverage.



Doc Magrogan's is an oyster bar at Dover Downs in the Casino out by the race track. That is probably your best bet in Dover.

Seems like our friends in Delaware may like to wager a dollar or two from time to time!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 08, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 08, 2010, 01:39:52 PM
Quote from: Conrad on December 08, 2010, 09:41:09 AM
Quote from: emma17 on December 07, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
30 Second Time out please.   
I'd love to hit an Oyster Bar while in the area.  Are there any decent places nearby?

Thanks
Back to the football game.  Although Krout is a stud, I'm very impressed with the number of players that have caught passes.  Looks like Wesley does a fine job of preventing double coverage.



Doc Magrogan's is an oyster bar at Dover Downs in the Casino out by the race track. That is probably your best bet in Dover.

Seems like our friends in Delaware may like to wager a dollar or two from time to time!  ;)
You have to. They don't take cheese curds as currency 'round here. But, if anyone brings some fresh squeeky cheese curds, I'll gladly exchange for some currency for 'em!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WarhawkDad on December 08, 2010, 03:26:07 PM
Quote from: dedragon on December 08, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 08, 2010, 01:39:52 PM
Quote from: Conrad on December 08, 2010, 09:41:09 AM
Quote from: emma17 on December 07, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
30 Second Time out please.   
I'd love to hit an Oyster Bar while in the area.  Are there any decent places nearby?

Thanks
Back to the football game.  Although Krout is a stud, I'm very impressed with the number of players that have caught passes.  Looks like Wesley does a fine job of preventing double coverage.



Doc Magrogan's is an oyster bar at Dover Downs in the Casino out by the race track. That is probably your best bet in Dover.

Seems like our friends in Delaware may like to wager a dollar or two from time to time!  ;)
You have to. They don't take cheese curds as currency 'round here. But, if anyone brings some fresh squeeky cheese curds, I'll gladly exchange for some currency for 'em!!

Probably should ask for some Spotted Cow beer as well, brewed in New Glarus WI.  Something I had to learn about as a flatlander (illinois).  Cheese curds and Spotted Cow go very well together.....hmmm.now that I think about it, everything goes well with Spotted Cow! 8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on December 08, 2010, 03:41:31 PM
Quote from: WarhawkDad on December 08, 2010, 03:26:07 PM
Quote from: dedragon on December 08, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 08, 2010, 01:39:52 PM
Quote from: Conrad on December 08, 2010, 09:41:09 AM
Quote from: emma17 on December 07, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
30 Second Time out please.   
I'd love to hit an Oyster Bar while in the area.  Are there any decent places nearby?

Thanks
Back to the football game.  Although Krout is a stud, I'm very impressed with the number of players that have caught passes.  Looks like Wesley does a fine job of preventing double coverage.



Doc Magrogan's is an oyster bar at Dover Downs in the Casino out by the race track. That is probably your best bet in Dover.

Seems like our friends in Delaware may like to wager a dollar or two from time to time!  ;)
You have to. They don't take cheese curds as currency 'round here. But, if anyone brings some fresh squeeky cheese curds, I'll gladly exchange for some currency for 'em!!

Probably should ask for some Spotted Cow beer as well, brewed in New Glarus WI.  Something I had to learn about as a flatlander (illinois).  Cheese curds and Spotted Cow go very well together.....hmmm.now that I think about it, everything goes well with Spotted Cow! 8-)

Hell yea....my family is from IL as well, and my dad never leaves WI without grabbing a six-pack or two of spotted cow to bring home with him.

Spotted Cow: The official tailgating beer for Warhawk games   :P
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 08, 2010, 03:49:07 PM
Quote from: WarhawkDad on December 08, 2010, 03:26:07 PM
Quote from: dedragon on December 08, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 08, 2010, 01:39:52 PM
Quote from: Conrad on December 08, 2010, 09:41:09 AM
Quote from: emma17 on December 07, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
30 Second Time out please.   
I'd love to hit an Oyster Bar while in the area.  Are there any decent places nearby?

Thanks
Back to the football game.  Although Krout is a stud, I'm very impressed with the number of players that have caught passes.  Looks like Wesley does a fine job of preventing double coverage.



Doc Magrogan's is an oyster bar at Dover Downs in the Casino out by the race track. That is probably your best bet in Dover.

Seems like our friends in Delaware may like to wager a dollar or two from time to time!  ;)
You have to. They don't take cheese curds as currency 'round here. But, if anyone brings some fresh squeeky cheese curds, I'll gladly exchange for some currency for 'em!!

Probably should ask for some Spotted Cow beer as well, brewed in New Glarus WI.  Something I had to learn about as a flatlander (illinois).  Cheese curds and Spotted Cow go very well together.....hmmm.now that I think about it, everything goes well with Spotted Cow! 8-)
Already did ask, but alas, no takers (givers??). For all of you WiSCONsinites coming to Dover, be sure not to leave with out a scrapple and egg sandwich, or at least a quick trip to Helen's Sausage House just north of Smyrna on Route 13.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 04:43:16 PM
I felt I needed to make my first ever post to this board since all the U-dubays think I'm totally rooting for y'all.  If it makes them happy, I don't care who we beat in Salem.  ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 08, 2010, 05:46:04 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 04:43:16 PM
I felt I needed to make my first ever post to this board since all the U-dubays think I'm totally rooting for y'all.  If it makes them happy, I don't care who we beat in Salem.  ;D :D ;D

Don't worry about seventies, seeing his team win 13 consecutive weeks against nobody has gotten to his head.  He's just happy Mount doesn't have to play Wesley or UW-W in the semi's or the Raiders wouldn't even be GOING to Salem.  Heck, Bethel is probably the best team they will have  played all year and they didn't even win their conference.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 08, 2010, 06:00:21 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 08, 2010, 05:46:04 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 04:43:16 PM
I felt I needed to make my first ever post to this board since all the U-dubays think I'm totally rooting for y'all.  If it makes them happy, I don't care who we beat in Salem.  ;D :D ;D

Don't worry about seventies, seeing his team win 13 consecutive weeks against nobody has gotten to his head.  He's just happy Mount doesn't have to play Wesley or UW-W in the semi's or the Raiders wouldn't even be GOING to Salem.  Heck, Bethel is probably the best team they will have  played all year and they didn't even win their conference.  ;)
Deep belly chuckle!  Not quite ROTFL!   :D  ;) 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 06:33:25 PM
Just whinning because you had to play in the north instead of the powderpuff west :o

BTW-I don't usually mess with the 10 "pre-Season" games
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 08, 2010, 06:46:42 PM
 Good to see you count the first three rounds of the playoffs as more than preseason Seventiesraider..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 08, 2010, 07:12:31 PM
ok wesley fans, time to step up and put it out there.  what do you think is going to happen this week?  me and ski are already on record believing that wesley has a real, real good chance of winning this game.  join in the battle with the warhawk faithful, will make the next couple of days more fun.  will wesley be able to run the football?  uww is strong against the run.  will wesley get pressure on the qb without having to resort to the blitz?  can uwww run the ball?  who wins the game?  lets get some football talk going.  enough of the other bullcrap being discussed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rscl70 on December 08, 2010, 07:24:58 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 08, 2010, 07:12:31 PM
ok wesley fans, time to step up and put it out there.  what do you think is going to happen this week?  me and ski are already on record believing that wesley has a real, real good chance of winning this game.  join in the battle with the warhawk faithful, will make the next couple of days more fun.  will wesley be able to run the football?  uww is strong against the run.  will wesley get pressure on the qb without having to resort to the blitz?  can uwww run the ball?  who wins the game?  lets get some football talk going.  enough of the other bullcrap being discussed.

Well I thought Ohio wine and Wisconsin cheese curds were really interesting, but what the heck, it's your board.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 08, 2010, 07:38:38 PM
rscl, i am ok with the beer conversation as i am always looking to try new brew.  the spotted cow stuff sounds good so i will see if my local beer garden has it.  no, we dont grow beer but that would be great.  lucky enough to have a place within a mile that has over 700 beers that you can make your own 6 pack with.  get to try some real good ones.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 08, 2010, 08:54:44 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 08, 2010, 05:46:04 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 04:43:16 PM
I felt I needed to make my first ever post to this board since all the U-dubays think I'm totally rooting for y'all.  If it makes them happy, I don't care who we beat in Salem.  ;D :D ;D

Don't worry about seventies, seeing his team win 13 consecutive weeks against nobody has gotten to his head.  He's just happy Mount doesn't have to play Wesley or UW-W in the semi's or the Raiders wouldn't even be GOING to Salem.  Heck, Bethel is probably the best team they will have  played all year and they didn't even win their conference.  ;)

Oh....here.....we......go.  Bleed......you have completely lost your mind.  Yah....the WIAC was really STRONG this year.   ::)  Oh I know.....they were so tough they just beat each other up.  That's why no other team out of the conference made the play-offs.  Please.......that is just weak.  Oh wait.....Franklin and Trine were SO LOADED..yah...that's it.  I will give you NCC...that was a though DEFENSIVE TEAM.

Let's see what you do against a better balanced team this week.  I am pretty confident we will be there next week in Salem.  Will you?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 08, 2010, 09:07:11 PM
skunks, well at least someone else is jumping into the fray.  i agree, this will be the best team that uww will have faced this year.  you know i will be there next week, hope that i will be cheering for the team against you this time because i will be wearing their jersey.  if not, i will be cheering for mount,  i am hoping to get back on hscoach's xmas card list. ;D  he said the beer i am bringing is not enough of a bribery.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 08, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
Im going to hold my tongue for the most part.... but I will say this: I think Wesley can win if they limit the mistakes (which they can do). Same with Whitewater. This Wesley team is going to bring it and I think if they play their game then they will win.

One more thing: I think Mount got the "easier" bracket. just look at the combined records of the teams theyve played. (I probably know that these numbers are essentially worthless.... but I got bored.  ;D)

Mount      36-10
Wesley     42-4
Whitewater   44-1
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 08, 2010, 09:22:32 PM
mount doesnt need defending, but they can only play who they get after the first round.  it is not thier fault teams lost that had better records.  and come on waterboy, why hold your tongue?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 08, 2010, 09:29:52 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 08, 2010, 09:07:11 PM
skunks, well at least someone else is jumping into the fray.  i agree, this will be the best team that uww will have faced this year.  you know i will be there next week, hope that i will be cheering for the team against you this time because i will be wearing their jersey.  if not, i will be cheering for mount,  i am hoping to get back on hscoach's xmas card list. ;D  he said the beer i am bringing is not enough of a bribery.

As you may remember from your last trip to A-town, I don't drink.  Haven't touched the stuff in 20 years.  You need to try again. 

How about a Coppage voodoo doll?  That might work.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 08, 2010, 09:46:18 PM
hscoach, if i have one of those, you wont need it because it will be used this week.  forgot the other part, may be bringing some jambalaya for the tailgate, will that work?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: paulisdeadman on December 08, 2010, 10:05:04 PM
I think Wesley wins but in a tight one.  Wesley D bends but doesnt break. O does enough to win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 10:07:01 PM
Quote from: HScoach on December 08, 2010, 09:29:52 PM

As you may remember from your last trip to A-town, I don't drink.  Haven't touched the stuff in 20 years.  You need to try again.  


Wow, HSCoach and I actually do have something in common besides Purple Raiders. Between us there is 40 years without a drink. No wonder we get so crabby.

Not sure anybody in his right mind thought anything besides Mount got almost a free ride to this point.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: emma17 on December 08, 2010, 11:14:41 PM
Skunks-
I'm not going to say that Mt wouldn't be where they are now if they played a tougher schedule, but surely you can acknowledge they have had the easier playoff road-no?  That's not to diminish Mt in any way, it's just the facts.
When you have a few minutes, take a look at the passing efficiency ratings of teams that UWW played.  All three playoff teams have QB's with higher ratings than any team Mt has played this year.  The highest rated qb Mt played this year played at Oshkosh- a WIAC school.

My point is simply that UWW has played some really diverse and skilled offenses that have presented challenges that Mt probably hasn't seen this year. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 11:52:01 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 08, 2010, 11:14:41 PM
Mt probably hasn't seen this year.  

Bing, Bing, Bing we have a winner in the annual "Mount Union has never seen" contest.

They practice against a better offense than most teams see in three or four years, but I digress.......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WarhawkDad on December 09, 2010, 01:32:11 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 08, 2010, 09:07:11 PM
skunks, well at least someone else is jumping into the fray.  i agree, this will be the best team that uww will have faced this year.  you know i will be there next week, hope that i will be cheering for the team against you this time because i will be wearing their jersey.  if not, i will be cheering for mount,  i am hoping to get back on hscoach's xmas card list. ;D  he said the beer i am bringing is not enough of a bribery.
wesleydad

So now you are trying to recruit UMU fans to jump on the Wesley bandwagon.   ;) Well that may happen, but after 5 years of playing UMU in the finals, I have a healthy respect for them and I believe they have a healthy respect for UWW.  While we banter and we argue stats etc....we still have a healthy respect.  In fact they have some of the most knowledgeable posters on all the Boards.  I fully expect them to win this week and we will see if UWW will see them again in Salem. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WarhawkDad on December 09, 2010, 01:33:07 AM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 11:52:01 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 08, 2010, 11:14:41 PM
Mt probably hasn't seen this year.  

Bing, Bing, Bing we have a winner in the annual "Mount Union has never seen" contest.

They practice against a better offense than most teams see in three or four years, but I digress.......
Again seventiesraider speaks the truth.  Another year has just added more wisdom  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 09, 2010, 07:06:23 AM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 10:07:01 PM
Quote from: HScoach on December 08, 2010, 09:29:52 PM

As you may remember from your last trip to A-town, I don't drink.  Haven't touched the stuff in 20 years.  You need to try again.  


Wow, HSCoach and I actually do have something in common besides Purple Raiders. Between us there is 40 years without a drink. No wonder we get so crabby.

Not sure anybody in his right mind thought anything besides Mount got almost a free ride to this point.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 09, 2010, 07:15:11 AM
Quote from: HScoach on December 09, 2010, 07:06:23 AM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 10:07:01 PM
Quote from: HScoach on December 08, 2010, 09:29:52 PM

As you may remember from your last trip to A-town, I don't drink.  Haven't touched the stuff in 20 years.  You need to try again.  


Wow, HSCoach and I actually do have something in common besides Purple Raiders. Between us there is 40 years without a drink. No wonder we get so crabby.

Not sure anybody in his right mind thought anything besides Mount got almost a free ride to this point.

Truer words have never been spoken.



No hippie lettuce either??  Yawn..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 09, 2010, 07:51:30 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 09, 2010, 07:15:11 AM
Quote from: HScoach on December 09, 2010, 07:06:23 AM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 10:07:01 PM
Quote from: HScoach on December 08, 2010, 09:29:52 PM

As you may remember from your last trip to A-town, I don't drink.  Haven't touched the stuff in 20 years.  You need to try again.  


Wow, HSCoach and I actually do have something in common besides Purple Raiders. Between us there is 40 years without a drink. No wonder we get so crabby.

Not sure anybody in his right mind thought anything besides Mount got almost a free ride to this point.

Truer words have never been spoken.



No hippie lettuce either??  Yawn..

SF......70's was actually one of those hippies back in the day.  Of course he was then "doing this thing" over in "Nam while I was still riding my Schwinn with high handlebars.   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 09, 2010, 07:58:33 AM
Quote from: emma17 on December 08, 2010, 11:14:41 PM
Skunks-
I'm not going to say that Mt wouldn't be where they are now if they played a tougher schedule, but surely you can acknowledge they have had the easier playoff road-no?  That's not to diminish Mt in any way, it's just the facts.
When you have a few minutes, take a look at the passing efficiency ratings of teams that UWW played.  All three playoff teams have QB's with higher ratings than any team Mt has played this year.  The highest rated qb Mt played this year played at Oshkosh- a WIAC school.

My point is simply that UWW has played some really diverse and skilled offenses that have presented challenges that Mt probably hasn't seen this year. 

Emma....until you have ran the juggernaut that is the EAST for three years like Mount has, you don't know what diverse adversity really is all about.  Those guys are really sarcastically intelligent, and at times they can just HURT with their barbs.  And then there is that media icon Frank Rossi who just HATES Mount and all it represents.  He has all these Rossites that follow him blindly.  Let me tell you...it's a tough road to journey for us Mount fans.  Ohhhhh......you were talking about the TEAMS.....ummm..yah.....it hasn't been that big of a challenge the last few years.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on December 09, 2010, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 09, 2010, 07:58:33 AM
Quote from: emma17 on December 08, 2010, 11:14:41 PM
Skunks-
I'm not going to say that Mt wouldn't be where they are now if they played a tougher schedule, but surely you can acknowledge they have had the easier playoff road-no?  That's not to diminish Mt in any way, it's just the facts.
When you have a few minutes, take a look at the passing efficiency ratings of teams that UWW played.  All three playoff teams have QB's with higher ratings than any team Mt has played this year.  The highest rated qb Mt played this year played at Oshkosh- a WIAC school.

My point is simply that UWW has played some really diverse and skilled offenses that have presented challenges that Mt probably hasn't seen this year.  

Emma....until you have ran the juggernaut that is the EAST for three years like Mount has, you don't know what diverse adversity really is all about.  Those guys are really sarcastically intelligent, and at times they can just HURT with their barbs.  And then there is that media icon Frank Rossi who just HATES Mount and all it represents.  He has all these Rossites that follow him blindly.  Let me tell you...it's a tough road to journey for us Mount fans.  Ohhhhh......you were talking about the TEAMS.....ummm..yah.....it hasn't been that big of a challenge the last few years.   ;)

Tough journey  ::) Forgive the rest of us DIII fans if we fail to feel sorry for Mount Union. the toughest thing you have to deal with is deciding what hotel to book in Salem.....in September.  ;)   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 09, 2010, 10:12:32 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 09, 2010, 07:51:30 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 09, 2010, 07:15:11 AM
Quote from: HScoach on December 09, 2010, 07:06:23 AM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 10:07:01 PM
Quote from: HScoach on December 08, 2010, 09:29:52 PM

As you may remember from your last trip to A-town, I don't drink.  Haven't touched the stuff in 20 years.  You need to try again.  


Wow, HSCoach and I actually do have something in common besides Purple Raiders. Between us there is 40 years without a drink. No wonder we get so crabby.

Not sure anybody in his right mind thought anything besides Mount got almost a free ride to this point.

Truer words have never been spoken.



No hippie lettuce either??  Yawn..

SF......70's was actually one of those hippies back in the day.  Of course he was then "doing this thing" over in "Nam while I was still riding my Schwinn with high handlebars.   ;D

Thanks, SS... this is GREAT info to store away for a rainy day..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 09, 2010, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 08, 2010, 07:38:38 PM
rscl, i am ok with the beer conversation as i am always looking to try new brew.  the spotted cow stuff sounds good so i will see if my local beer garden has it.  no, we dont grow beer but that would be great.  lucky enough to have a place within a mile that has over 700 beers that you can make your own 6 pack with.  get to try some real good ones.

Another vote from me for Spotted Cow.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 09, 2010, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 08, 2010, 11:52:01 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 08, 2010, 11:14:41 PM
Mt probably hasn't seen this year.  

Bing, Bing, Bing we have a winner in the annual "Mount Union has never seen" contest.

They practice against a better offense than most teams see in three or four years, but I digress.......

Takes balls for a Mount Union fan to call out a UWW fan on that. I think the past five years have shown UWW has the ability to back that up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 09, 2010, 11:35:18 AM
congrats to all the wesley players and coach drass for being recognized in the all region selections for the south.  looking at both teams, seems like the big collision will be the wesley d against the uww o.  uww has 3 all-region lineman and 1 running back and receiver.  wesley's d is also well represented.  makes it easy to figure out which area will tell the difference in the game.  can wesley shut down the run and get pressure on the qb against what seems to be an excellent line?  I think so, glad it is only 2 days away.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: emma17 on December 09, 2010, 01:55:10 PM
What's all this congratulations Wesley stuff, I thought we were on the OAC board  :P

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 09, 2010, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 09, 2010, 11:35:18 AM
congrats to all the wesley players and coach drass for being recognized in the all region selections for the south.  looking at both teams, seems like the big collision will be the wesley d against the uww o.  uww has 3 all-region lineman and 1 running back and receiver.  wesley's d is also well represented.  makes it easy to figure out which area will tell the difference in the game.  can wesley shut down the run and get pressure on the qb against what seems to be an excellent line?  I think so, glad it is only 2 days away.

I concur!!!  Well done Wesley and Coach Drass!!  Man, I want this game to be here already! :P

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 04:48:05 PM
 All this chatter about a rematch in two weeks and everyone seems to be forgetting that UWW has a game this weekend in Dover, I hope the UWW players are taking Wesley so lightly~!!!! ;DI am sure the WW fans will get to know the name Mays by Saturday night. He is number 90 but you can't see his number because it has been torn off by every other lineman Wesley has played trying to stop him..Not forgetting the rest of the Top rated Wesley D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WarhawkDad on December 09, 2010, 05:14:01 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 04:48:05 PM
All this chatter about a rematch in two weeks and everyone seems to be forgetting that UWW has a game this weekend in Dover, I hope the UWW players are taking Wesley so lightly~!!!! ;DI am sure the WW fans will get to know the name Mays by Saturday night. He is number 90 but you can't see his number because it has been torn off by every other lineman Wesley has played trying to stop him..Not forgetting the rest of the Top rated Wesley D
There is absolutely no chance UWW is taking the Wolverines lightly.  Since getting a second seed in the north region, the team has had a completely focused approach and frankly a slight bit of a chip on their collective shoulders.   Our players and coaches take each day, each practice, each challenge one at a time.  They intensely prepare for each new team and each aspect of that team.  Again, having talked to several players on Tuesday evening, they are obviously totally concentrating on Wesley.  They embrace the challenge of facing the number 1 seed in the country, knowing that they have to defeat Wesley to continue the tradition of Warhawk Football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 09, 2010, 06:14:44 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 09, 2010, 11:22:28 AM
Takes balls for a Mount Union fan to call out a UWW fan on that. I think the past five years have shown UWW has the ability to back that up.

Last time I looked Mount Union is still ahead in the series ;) 

So maybe WW has never seen anything like this Wesley team. I think this will be at least an equal to the WW-NCC game last week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: emma17 on December 09, 2010, 06:36:35 PM
PA- Don't confuse our funnin' around with the Mt. people to mean we don't take Wesley seriously, nothing further from the truth.  This is friendly banter between the two teams as to who has the better chance of reaching the ultimate goal for the sixth straight time.
   
I know UWW people are very aware of the challenge that lies ahead for this Saturday.
 
Seventies- your comment about "maybe UWW hasn't seen anything like Wesley" is to the point I've been trying to make all along.  I believe this is the advantage UWW has because UWW has played against the most diverse offenses and collection of skilled players in these playoffs.  From a pure passing team like Franklin, an even better offense in Trine and then the power in NCC.  It may be true that UWW hasn't seen all of these components together on one team, and IF Wesley is that team, well I don't think anyone will beat them. 


   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 09, 2010, 07:09:06 PM
Except I won't let you claim Franklin as a quality opponent unless we get to call Del Val and Alfred quality opponents. I think DV for sure and Alfred on most days would whip Franklin.

Wesley DID hold one of the best offenses in DIII to a surprisingly low score, so..........
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 07:37:26 PM
I will bet that UWW has never had 6 story crypt behind it's bench before!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 09, 2010, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 04:48:05 PM
I am sure the WW fans will get to know the name Mays by Saturday night. He is number 90 but you can't see his number because it has been torn off by every other lineman Wesley has played trying to stop him.

PA - who was that DE from the '05 and maybe the '06 Wesley teams that you had the hype machine working full-time building up back then? I, for one, thought a young Deacon Jones was coming to Whitewater!!  ;)  I forgive you if you can't remember his name either since in those games, he basically was rendered a non-factor. Do you know who I'm talking about? The Warhawks o-line really neutralized him to the point that he basically gave up from what I remember.  ;) 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 09, 2010, 07:48:00 PM
going on the record early.  based on last weeks games with umhb and ncc, i am going with 24 - 14 wesley.  wesley has a better offense and at least as good of a defense as ncc.  the defense shut down a pretty potent run offense in umhb, albeit a different type of rushing game and uww has a better passing game, but wesley has not had trouble covering passes all year.  ncc led 10 - 7 in the 4th quarter before turnovers did them in, wesley had 3 last week, which was sloppy for them the second half of the year.  i think they will be able to score in the 20's as both franklin and trine did, can uww?  i dont think so.  play a clean game and i believe the wolverines win this one.  this will be a good game, time for the wolverines to step up and move into the next level of d3 teams.  4 semis in 6 years is good, but only if you can win one do you take the next step.  i know some will disagree, but that is fine with me.  bring it on.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 09, 2010, 07:55:12 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 09, 2010, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 04:48:05 PM
I am sure the WW fans will get to know the name Mays by Saturday night. He is number 90 but you can't see his number because it has been torn off by every other lineman Wesley has played trying to stop him.

PA - who was that DE from the '05 and maybe the '06 Wesley teams that you had the hype machine working full-time building up back then? I, for one, thought a young Deacon Jones was coming to Whitewater!!  ;)  I forgive you if you can't remember his name either since in those games, he basically was rendered a non-factor. Do you know who I'm talking about? The Warhawks o-line really neutralized him to the point that he basically gave up from what I remember.  ;)  
Last name Robinson, I think but can't recall his first name.  I remember only because of the, "hype machine."  But to be fair, it might have been more the snow and ice that nuetralized him.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Warhawk 96 on December 09, 2010, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 09, 2010, 07:55:12 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 09, 2010, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 04:48:05 PM
I am sure the WW fans will get to know the name Mays by Saturday night. He is number 90 but you can't see his number because it has been torn off by every other lineman Wesley has played trying to stop him.

PA - who was that DE from the '05 and maybe the '06 Wesley teams that you had the hype machine working full-time building up back then? I, for one, thought a young Deacon Jones was coming to Whitewater!!  ;)  I forgive you if you can't remember his name either since in those games, he basically was rendered a non-factor. Do you know who I'm talking about? The Warhawks o-line really neutralized him to the point that he basically gave up from what I remember.  ;)  
Last name Robinson, I think but can't recall his first name.  I remember only because of the, "hype machine."  But to be fair, it might have been more the snow and ice that nuetralized him.   ;)
I believe it was Bryan Robinson and I think he had something like 50 tfls and 30 sacks coming into the game.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 08:07:40 PM
yes it was Bryon Robinson. He as well as Mike Ward another DL and Larry Beavers all signed this week with USFL teams
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 08:43:16 PM
emma17


We all enjoy the bantering . We Wesley people don't get many people in here to post!! Actually there may be on 6 or 7 posters who have ever posted more than once so please feel free ..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 09, 2010, 08:52:27 PM
Quote from: Warhawk 96 on December 09, 2010, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 09, 2010, 07:55:12 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 09, 2010, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 04:48:05 PM
I am sure the WW fans will get to know the name Mays by Saturday night. He is number 90 but you can't see his number because it has been torn off by every other lineman Wesley has played trying to stop him.

PA - who was that DE from the '05 and maybe the '06 Wesley teams that you had the hype machine working full-time building up back then? I, for one, thought a young Deacon Jones was coming to Whitewater!!  ;)  I forgive you if you can't remember his name either since in those games, he basically was rendered a non-factor. Do you know who I'm talking about? The Warhawks o-line really neutralized him to the point that he basically gave up from what I remember.  ;)  
Last name Robinson, I think but can't recall his first name.  I remember only because of the, "hype machine."  But to be fair, it might have been more the snow and ice that nuetralized him.   ;)
I believe it was Bryan Robinson and I think he had something like 50 tfls and 30 sacks coming into the game.....

Nice picture 96!!  ;D  You were a handsome lad.  ;)   :D

fbf413 - Why didn't the hawk o-line have the same trouble with the snow and ice? One might think they were wearing......oh, forget it!!   ;)

PA, good luck to your guys in the USFL!!  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 09:00:20 PM
 Teamski

You still have conections at the base ;D If the cannon shows you could call in a drop I am sure!!! ;D

To all you UWW people traveling to Dover . The visiting stands are the direction the winds blows so dress warm(shoes included  ;)) . Don't let that 45 deg forecast fool you!!! You will have the sun if there is any!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 09, 2010, 09:05:09 PM
pawesley, if the cannon shows i will lead a small band of wesley fans on a recon to quickly and decisively remove said cannon.  the cannon may be the only shot they have at winning.  :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Warhawk 96 on December 09, 2010, 09:06:59 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 09, 2010, 08:52:27 PM
Quote from: Warhawk 96 on December 09, 2010, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 09, 2010, 07:55:12 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 09, 2010, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 04:48:05 PM
I am sure the WW fans will get to know the name Mays by Saturday night. He is number 90 but you can't see his number because it has been torn off by every other lineman Wesley has played trying to stop him.

PA - who was that DE from the '05 and maybe the '06 Wesley teams that you had the hype machine working full-time building up back then? I, for one, thought a young Deacon Jones was coming to Whitewater!!  ;)  I forgive you if you can't remember his name either since in those games, he basically was rendered a non-factor. Do you know who I'm talking about? The Warhawks o-line really neutralized him to the point that he basically gave up from what I remember.  ;)  
Last name Robinson, I think but can't recall his first name.  I remember only because of the, "hype machine."  But to be fair, it might have been more the snow and ice that nuetralized him.   ;)
I believe it was Bryan Robinson and I think he had something like 50 tfls and 30 sacks coming into the game.....

Nice picture 96!!  ;D  You were a handsome lad.  ;)   :D

fbf413 - Why didn't the hawk o-line have the same trouble with the snow and ice? One might think they were wearing......oh, forget it!!   ;)

PA, good luck to your guys in the USFL!!  :)
Haha, thanks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 09:11:18 PM
 ya wesleydad about all I am going to be able to do is lay down in front of it!!!!! or I could hit it with my cane or walker which ever my mode of transportation is that day!!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 09, 2010, 09:14:20 PM
pawesley, sorry to hear that you are still struggling with the back/hip issues.  you lying in front of it will be a fine deversion for our quick strike team.  well, only as quick as the team i assemble is, i will only direct the removal, quickness is not my forte anymore either.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 09:33:01 PM
They have a cannon we have Uncle Frank!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 09, 2010, 10:06:35 PM


I believe that is "Crazy Uncle Frank",,but he is on the injured ,questionable list again  ::) ;D :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 10:15:51 PM
Questionable being the object word!!! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 09, 2010, 10:32:09 PM
Hope to see y'all saturday,,wife has been a little under the weather,,should be a real barn burner,,as they used to say,,,,,not sure who used to say it though  .After playing each other a few times I would think each team has developed some feeling for each other,,they know how each other hit, play ,,and in some  cases think,,makes the game even closer that way . And wind predictions of 3-5 mph ???Really ???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 10:38:35 PM
beenhit2hard

  Hope the mrs. is feeling better by Sat.

The jet was from the base is a stronger wind than that!!!. Would be nice 45 deg day without wind!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 09, 2010, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 09:11:18 PM
ya wesleydad about all I am going to be able to do is lay down in front of it!!!!! or I could hit it with my cane or walker which ever my mode of transportation is that day!!! ;D

I've just intercepted confidential radio traffic from Dover...the Eagle has landed!!

I've been told the first wave of artillerymen are currently setting up their equipment in pre-arranged locations at these coordinates 39°09′43″N 75°31′36″W. Good luck PA and gang trying to find them. They are masters in disguise and concealment. You will never see them, you will never find them, you will only hear them..over...and over...and over again!! I am told by anonymous sources they have orders for a live fire exercise during Friday's Wesley practice session. Additional Battalions are on high alert awaiting orders. This is the beginning of the end PA!!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: emma17 on December 09, 2010, 10:46:22 PM
Wesleydad- Way to step out with the prediction.  One thing for sure is you have the I told you so on your side if you win. 

I suffer from a bad case of jinx o phobia- so I will only say I pray all the players play and finish the game healthy so the winner is at full strength against Mt.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 09, 2010, 11:40:56 PM
Boy Im excited! Headed out tomorrow. Its gonna be a good one. Both teams play great football.

PA, how are you holding up? Still gonna make it out I hope.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 11:44:50 PM

Waterboy

I am trying to rest it enough to be able to get there.. as before it's day to day
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 09, 2010, 11:51:47 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 09, 2010, 09:00:20 PM
Teamski

You still have conections at the base ;D If the cannon shows you could call in a drop I am sure!!! ;D


A ball of C4 about the size of a peanut down the barrel ought to do it. A small bang, followed by a brief metal shower.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 10, 2010, 12:27:40 AM
Quote from: emma17 on December 09, 2010, 10:46:22 PM
Wesleydad- Way to step out with the prediction.  One thing for sure is you have the I told you so on your side if you win. 

I suffer from a bad case of jinx o phobia- so I will only say I pray all the players play and finish the game healthy so the winner is at full strength against Mt.   


You just jinxed Mount. Good thinking!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on December 10, 2010, 01:03:41 AM
This week's Wesley interviews are up on wdel.com 's video page, and also on our facebook page at www.facebook.com/1150AMWDEL (don't need to be a member of facebook to look at it).  Anyone heading to the game, we'll be on the air at 11:30amET from the stadium, not sure how our signal is via walkman though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 10, 2010, 07:35:00 AM
Quote from: wdelsean on December 10, 2010, 01:03:41 AM
This week's Wesley interviews are up on wdel.com 's video page, and also on our facebook page at www.facebook.com/1150AMWDEL (don't need to be a member of facebook to look at it).  Anyone heading to the game, we'll be on the air at 11:30amET from the stadium, not sure how our signal is via walkman though.

Thanks Sean!  You guys do an outstanding job!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 10, 2010, 09:01:30 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 09, 2010, 07:48:00 PM
based on last weeks games with umhb and ncc, i am going with 24 - 14 wesley.

Wesley scores only 19 points against the #102 ranked defense in Mary Hardin-Baylor, but yet you predict they'll score 24 on the #7 ranked defense in UWW? Based on last weeks games?  ??? It's an adventurous guess (one probably made more with your heart than with your head), but it looks like a mishap in the making. I suggest finding some new tea leaves and trying again!!  ;)

We should find out today what UWW's Paul the Octopus says...guaranteed it won't resemble your prediction.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on December 10, 2010, 10:45:09 AM
Quote from: emma17 on December 09, 2010, 10:46:22 PM
Wesleydad- Way to step out with the prediction.  One thing for sure is you have the I told you so on your side if you win. 

I suffer from a bad case of jinx o phobia- so I will only say I pray all the players play and finish the game healthy so the winner is at full strength against Mt.   


I'm on board with this...I'll be pulling for the winner of this game to be Stagg champs for certain.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Barber Greene on December 10, 2010, 11:16:45 AM
I'm wondering if Wesley will have much of a home field advantage. Seems like they have been drawing fewer than 1,000 for the playoff games and the field is Field Turf (just like Whitewater).  The weather is going to be perfect-46 degrees, no rain, and light winds.

This is as close to playing on a neutral field as you can get.

No excuses for either team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on December 10, 2010, 11:21:04 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on December 10, 2010, 11:16:45 AM
I'm wondering if Wesley will have much of a home field advantage. Seems like they have been drawing fewer than 1,000 for the playoff games and the field is Field Turf (just like Whitewater).  The weather is going to be perfect-46 degrees, no rain, and light winds.

This is as close to playing on a neutral field as you can get.

No excuses for either team.

On the flip side, i doubt too many UWW fans will be making it out....maybe a few dozen  :-\.

I guess Wesley will be more comfortbable...which might give them an edge for homefield.

but I agree, that's not going to be an excuse for the loser.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 10, 2010, 11:32:30 AM
bobo, make sure you read the entire post, my basis for wesley getting 24 is the fact that trine and franklin put up 31 and 28, which i stated.  i dont use tea leaves and unless you can refute my points then i will stick with my prediction.  havent seen anyone else put a prediction out there so just keep taking shots, but at least make your own prediction.  dont really care about what some octopus comes up with.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 10, 2010, 11:38:57 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 10, 2010, 11:21:04 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on December 10, 2010, 11:16:45 AM
I'm wondering if Wesley will have much of a home field advantage. Seems like they have been drawing fewer than 1,000 for the playoff games and the field is Field Turf (just like Whitewater).  The weather is going to be perfect-46 degrees, no rain, and light winds.

This is as close to playing on a neutral field as you can get.

No excuses for either team.

On the flip side, i doubt too many UWW fans will be making it out....maybe a few dozen :-\.

I guess Wesley will be more comfortbable...which might give them an edge for homefield.

but I agree, that's not going to be an excuse for the loser.
I suspect that you are highly underestimating the number of Warhawk fans that will travel.  When I was traveling in 04-07 as a parent, there were still plenty that made the trips a great distance away.  We had at least 600 at Linfield in 05 and that was a flight only trip for everyone.  Now, maybe looking at having to pay for a flight next weekend also IF we win tomorrow could have an impact on that but, in the past, games in Oregon, Texas, Washington, etc.  certainly turned up fans in the hundreds, not dozens.  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 10, 2010, 11:49:57 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 10, 2010, 11:32:30 AM
bobo, make sure you read the entire post, my basis for wesley getting 24 is the fact that trine and franklin put up 31 and 28, which i stated.  i dont use tea leaves and unless you can refute my points then i will stick with my prediction.  havent seen anyone else put a prediction out there so just keep taking shots, but at least make your own prediction.  dont really care about what some octopus comes up with.
Did you get a chance to to read the D3football article about the Warhawk defense that is on the front page yet?  It gives some insight as to why judging a game strictly on the final score alone can be deceiving.  

Oh, I forgot, there is only one defense playing tomorrow that is any good...................... ;D

And BTW, why is it reasonable for you to use the points scored on the Warhawks by Trine and Franklin in your argument but if he uses the points Wesley scored on UMHB in his, he is not, "refuting your point?"  I thought he refuted it pretty well.  

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 11:56:32 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 10, 2010, 12:27:40 AM
You just jinxed Mount. Good thinking!  ;)

Oh woe is us.  ;D

I think all the chatter is because Wesleydad's prediction and logic are way too real and too close to true. My prediction is if WW is down in the 4th quarter Saturday, the mighty comeback will fail this time
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 11:57:54 AM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2010, 11:49:57 AM
Did you get a chance to to read the D3football article about the Warhawk defense that is on the front page yet?  It gives some insight as to why judging a game strictly on the final score alone can be deceiving.  


The same guys that picked St Thomas?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 10, 2010, 12:04:51 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 11:57:54 AM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2010, 11:49:57 AM
Did you get a chance to to read the D3football article about the Warhawk defense that is on the front page yet?  It gives some insight as to why judging a game strictly on the final score alone can be deceiving.  


The same guys that picked St Thomas?
You're right, these guys have no credibility on this sight.    ::)
Besides, why would anyone pick the #1 seed to win on their home field?   That is just crazy.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on December 10, 2010, 12:15:03 PM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2010, 11:38:57 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 10, 2010, 11:21:04 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on December 10, 2010, 11:16:45 AM
I'm wondering if Wesley will have much of a home field advantage. Seems like they have been drawing fewer than 1,000 for the playoff games and the field is Field Turf (just like Whitewater).  The weather is going to be perfect-46 degrees, no rain, and light winds.

This is as close to playing on a neutral field as you can get.

No excuses for either team.

On the flip side, i doubt too many UWW fans will be making it out....maybe a few dozen  :-\.

I guess Wesley will be more comfortbable...which might give them an edge for homefield.

but I agree, that's not going to be an excuse for the loser.
I suspect that you are highly underestimating the number of Warhawk fans that will travel.  When I was traveling in 04-07 as a parent, there were still plenty that made the trips a great distance away.  We had at least 600 at Linfield in 05 and that was a flight only trip for everyone.  Now, maybe looking at having to pay for a flight next weekend also IF we win tomorrow could have an impact on that but, in the past, games in Oregon, Texas, Washington, etc.  certainly turned up fans in the hundreds, not dozens. 

Wow, I never knew that about the Linfield game....I stand corrected. Here's to a few hundred showing up for the game tomorrow  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 10, 2010, 12:34:40 PM
wesleydad,

What is the weather forecast for Dover on Saturday?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WarhawkDad on December 10, 2010, 01:04:36 PM
Last seven posts......all buy eithe UMU or UWW posters...... :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 01:38:15 PM
Quote from: Barber Greene on December 10, 2010, 11:16:45 AM
I'm wondering if Wesley will have much of a home field advantage. Seems like they have been drawing fewer than 1,000 for the playoff games
??????

3,700 estimate from the Mary Hardin Baylor game. True only about 975 took time out their busy day to see the Muhlenberg game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 10, 2010, 01:51:20 PM
Quote from: WarhawkDad on December 10, 2010, 01:04:36 PM
Last seven posts......all buy eithe UMU or UWW posters...... :D
Yeah, sorry. We have real lives to attend to. Plus I've been contacting the Dover FD on how to best time the fire sirens in town for the game.

Whhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooo.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WarhawkDad on December 10, 2010, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: dedragon on December 10, 2010, 01:51:20 PM
Quote from: WarhawkDad on December 10, 2010, 01:04:36 PM
Last seven posts......all buy eithe UMU or UWW posters...... :D
Yeah, sorry. We have real lives to attend to. Plus I've been contacting the Dover FD on how to best time the fire sirens in town for the game.

Whhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooo.

LOL, if I could give +K, I would, just for the humor  ;D ...... I just went over 200 posts.  I guess I can now
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 10, 2010, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: WarhawkDad on December 10, 2010, 01:04:36 PM
Last seven posts......all buy eithe UMU or UWW posters...... :D

The rest of us have employment at this time of the day.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 10, 2010, 02:39:54 PM
Quote from: dedragon on December 10, 2010, 01:51:20 PM
Quote from: WarhawkDad on December 10, 2010, 01:04:36 PM
Last seven posts......all buy eithe UMU or UWW posters...... :D
Yeah, sorry. We have real lives to attend to. Plus I've been contacting the Dover FD on how to best time the fire sirens in town for the game.

Whhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooo.

LOL!!!!

Flurries right now, but still looking at partly cloudy and a high of 46 tommorow.  I have already said enough this week.  I hope to meet some of the UWW posters at the game.  You can't miss me as I will be the bearded guy on top of the box with one of the cameras.....

Wow, it is already Friday and the game is on for tommorow.  My guess?  Wesley 20-17.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 02:44:45 PM
Quote from: Conrad on December 10, 2010, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: WarhawkDad on December 10, 2010, 01:04:36 PM
Last seven posts......all buy eithe UMU or UWW posters...... :D

The rest of us have employment at this time of the day.  ;D

He says as he trolls D3 while smiling knowingly at his class.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 10, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: WarhawkDad on December 10, 2010, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: dedragon on December 10, 2010, 01:51:20 PM
Quote from: WarhawkDad on December 10, 2010, 01:04:36 PM
Last seven posts......all buy eithe UMU or UWW posters...... :D
Yeah, sorry. We have real lives to attend to. Plus I've been contacting the Dover FD on how to best time the fire sirens in town for the game.

Whhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooo.

LOL, if I could give +K, I would, just for the humor  ;D ...... I just went over 200 posts.  I guess I can now

Finally, someone recognizes my Midwestern humor. I was getting dinged pretty good for a while.  It's called sarcasm people.

I do think the key to this game, as talked about, is turnovers. It is true that Wesley has had a few games with some give aways. In my opinion, they were all just trying to make plays and forgot about ball security. Wesley had two fumbles last week, the first on a reverse, and the second inside the 10 on a simple hand off. The reverse wasn't the right call at the time, and the hand off was after they shuffled QB's in second time. They can't make those mistakes this week. Wesley was the better team last week as Bailey was a one dimensional quarterback. While I doubt that the UWW quarterback is as mobile, he should be prove a problem for the secondary if he gets time. UWW runs play action very well which will slow the rush a bit. Wesley got pressure from it's front four last week, but those lineman played on their toes with a high concentration of the run. Keep an eye on Jeff Morgan #26, he will haunt you like Santiago did in '06. If Wesley plays within themselves with out trying to put forth huge effort, they should be able to make the same plays they have all year long.

Wesley knows to be the best, you have to beat the best. No bull from the team or coaches about that. No matter what the NCAA says, we know that UWW was the best team last year. We'll see if that holds true this year. Good luck to everyone involved, safe travels to fans and family of both teams. Cheer hard.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2010, 02:57:01 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 11:57:54 AM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2010, 11:49:57 AM
Did you get a chance to to read the D3football article about the Warhawk defense that is on the front page yet?  It gives some insight as to why judging a game strictly on the final score alone can be deceiving.  


The same guys that picked St Thomas?

Never saw your predicted scores, there, smug guy. Clearly the team that lost 12-7 had NO SHOT of winning.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2010, 02:57:30 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 02:44:45 PM
He says as he trolls

Ain't that the truth?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 10, 2010, 03:11:51 PM
footballfan, yes i read the front page.  nice article on a good defense that has stepped it up in the playoffs and sounds like they saved uww last week as the offense was having trouble.  still doesnt change my feeling that wesley will be able to score points.  now if they turn it over like ncc then they will also struggle scoring.  since i saw the wesley game the 19 was on the low end of what they could have gotten, so being in the 20's last week was not stretching it.  bottom line is this,  i believe wesley will score points tomorrow, some of you dont.  i dont think uww will score a lot of points tomorrow, some of you do.  we shall see and if i am wrong i will say so.  those that know me realize that i am not afraid to tell you what i think even if you might not like it.  i just find it interesting that no one from uww has gone out on a limb with a prediction, guess they are not as confident in what they believe to put it out there for scrutiny.  hope all uww fans have a safe journey and if you make it to the game, find me, i will be wearing a #13 jersey and be in the tailgate area around 1030.  hoping that the game lives up to the hype that we are giving it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 10, 2010, 04:39:30 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 10, 2010, 03:11:51 PM
footballfan, yes i read the front page.  nice article on a good defense that has stepped it up in the playoffs and sounds like they saved uww last week as the offense was having trouble.  still doesnt change my feeling that wesley will be able to score points.  now if they turn it over like ncc then they will also struggle scoring.  since i saw the wesley game the 19 was on the low end of what they could have gotten, so being in the 20's last week was not stretching it.  bottom line is this,  i believe wesley will score points tomorrow, some of you dont.  i dont think uww will score a lot of points tomorrow, some of you do.  we shall see and if i am wrong i will say so.  those that know me realize that i am not afraid to tell you what i think even if you might not like it.  i just find it interesting that no one from uww has gone out on a limb with a prediction, guess they are not as confident in what they believe to put it out there for scrutiny.  hope all uww fans have a safe journey and if you make it to the game, find me, i will be wearing a #13 jersey and be in the tailgate area around 1030.  hoping that the game lives up to the hype that we are giving it.
OK, Wesleydad.  Fair enough.  You are an enthusiastic Welsey fan whose loyalty is very clear and strong, as it should be.  The Wolverines have had an outstanding season and beating them tomorrow will be a very tough task for the Warhawks.   I do think that you are reading too much into predictions not being posted, although, I think I remember reading a few on our board.  It is hardly because, somehow, UWW fans lack confidence in their undefeated defending National Champs.  ;) I don't do that kind of thing just because I am highly superstitious.  I still wear my son's jersey on game day even when watching the games in my family room and the same football earring I have been wearing since he was 7.   I believe VERY strongly in karma and try always to protect mine so let me just say that I hope the game is exciting, injury free and I have a reason to go to Whitewater next weekend to watch the Stagg Bowl at my favorite bar.  Enjoy the game, tailgate and the chance to host a semi-final game.                                      GO WARHAWKS!  
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 04:50:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2010, 02:57:01 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 11:57:54 AM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2010, 11:49:57 AM
Did you get a chance to to read the D3football article about the Warhawk defense that is on the front page yet?  It gives some insight as to why judging a game strictly on the final score alone can be deceiving.  


The same guys that picked St Thomas?

Never saw your predicted scores, there, smug guy. Clearly the team that lost 12-7 had NO SHOT of winning.

I've had Bethel and Mount playing in the semi's in the D3photography brackets, just screwed up on Mary Hardin Baylor and Wesley. Jeez Pat, St Thomas? Really?   ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 10, 2010, 04:57:57 PM
This just in.......

....."The D-III football semi-final game was canceled between UWW and Wesley due to excessive noise and panic.  Between the air raid sirens, and cannons going off, homeland security issued a code RED, and cancelled all public gatherings.  Due to the fact that either team would have lost to the Purple Raiders next week in Salem, the NCAA in its infinite wisdom (and cost-saving measures they are famous for) has annointed the University of Mount Union national champions of 2010."  (Film of the mayhem at 11.....evidently there is footage of WesleyDad throwing great MICROBREW bottles at the UWW cannon crew, and BleedPurple dropping 50 pound cheese wheels on the siren). 

;D ;D ;D

Yes.......I have had the day off.......anyone ever try caramel vodka and apple cider?  Oh yah.....it's THAT good.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WarhawkDad on December 10, 2010, 05:03:01 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 10, 2010, 04:57:57 PM
This just in.......

....."The D-III football semi-final game was canceled between UWW and Wesley due to excessive noise and panic.  Between the air raid sirens, and cannons going off, homeland security issued a code RED, and cancelled all public gatherings.  Due to the fact that either team would have lost to the Purple Raiders next week in Salem, the NCAA in its infinite wisdom (and cost-saving measures they are famous for) has annointed the University of Mount Union national champions of 2010."  (Film of the mayhem at 11.....evidently there is footage of WesleyDad throwing great MICROBREW bottles at the UWW cannon crew, and BleedPurple dropping 50 pound cheese wheels on the siren). 

;D ;D ;D

Yes.......I have had the day off.......anyone ever try caramel vodka and apple cider?  Oh yah.....it's THAT good.   ;)

Outstanding post....made my day.... ;D....even though you gave UMU the title!   +k
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 10, 2010, 05:07:06 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 10, 2010, 04:57:57 PM
This just in.......

....."The D-III football semi-final game was canceled between UWW and Wesley due to excessive noise and panic.  Between the air raid sirens, and cannons going off, homeland security issued a code RED, and cancelled all public gatherings.  Due to the fact that either team would have lost to the Purple Raiders next week in Salem, the NCAA in its infinite wisdom (and cost-saving measures they are famous for) has annointed the University of Mount Union national champions of 2010."  (Film of the mayhem at 11.....evidently there is footage of WesleyDad throwing great MICROBREW bottles at the UWW cannon crew, and BleedPurple dropping 50 pound cheese wheels on the siren). 

;D ;D ;D

Yes.......I have had the day off.......anyone ever try caramel vodka and apple cider?  Oh yah.....it's THAT good.   ;)
LMAO.   Well, they did their best when they set up the brackets, didn't they?   ;)

I am going to have to try the carmel vodka and apple cider.  Sounds awfully sweet, though.  How many of those can you possibly drink?   ;D 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2010, 05:23:23 PM
 Wesleydad is correct!!! ??? Yes i said it. ;D The game was not nearly as close as the score last week. I honestly thought that Wesley was never in danger of losing the game after the first quarter. The D line controlled the line of scrimmage  and Bailey had no where to go all day. Daniels got his yards and broke one. By the 4th quarter UMHB players were done. That fast paced offence ran out of gas.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 10, 2010, 05:55:03 PM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2010, 05:07:06 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 10, 2010, 04:57:57 PM
This just in.......

....."The D-III football semi-final game was canceled between UWW and Wesley due to excessive noise and panic.  Between the air raid sirens, and cannons going off, homeland security issued a code RED, and cancelled all public gatherings.  Due to the fact that either team would have lost to the Purple Raiders next week in Salem, the NCAA in its infinite wisdom (and cost-saving measures they are famous for) has annointed the University of Mount Union national champions of 2010."  (Film of the mayhem at 11.....evidently there is footage of WesleyDad throwing great MICROBREW bottles at the UWW cannon crew, and BleedPurple dropping 50 pound cheese wheels on the siren). 

;D ;D ;D

Yes.......I have had the day off.......anyone ever try caramel vodka and apple cider?  Oh yah.....it's THAT good.   ;)
LMAO.   Well, they did their best when they set up the brackets, didn't they?   ;)

I am going to have to try the carmel vodka and apple cider.  Sounds awfully sweet, though.  How many of those can you possibly drink?   ;D 

413....definitely sweet.....I'll let you know how many...   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 10, 2010, 05:56:15 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 02:44:45 PM
Quote from: Conrad on December 10, 2010, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: WarhawkDad on December 10, 2010, 01:04:36 PM
Last seven posts......all buy eithe UMU or UWW posters...... :D

The rest of us have employment at this time of the day.  ;D

He says as he trolls D3 while smiling knowingly at his class.

My kids left at 2:20 and my block planning fell today. :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2010, 06:52:27 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 04:50:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2010, 02:57:01 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 11:57:54 AM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2010, 11:49:57 AM
Did you get a chance to to read the D3football article about the Warhawk defense that is on the front page yet?  It gives some insight as to why judging a game strictly on the final score alone can be deceiving.  


The same guys that picked St Thomas?

Never saw your predicted scores, there, smug guy. Clearly the team that lost 12-7 had NO SHOT of winning.

I've had Bethel and Mount playing in the semi's in the D3photography brackets, just screwed up on Mary Hardin Baylor and Wesley. Jeez Pat, St Thomas? Really?   ::) ::) ::)


If you want to join the score prediction each week you can criticize our picks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 10, 2010, 06:56:24 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 10, 2010, 11:32:30 AM
bobo, make sure you read the entire post, my basis for wesley getting 24 is the fact that trine and franklin put up 31 and 28, which i stated.  i dont use tea leaves and unless you can refute my points then i will stick with my prediction.  havent seen anyone else put a prediction out there so just keep taking shots, but at least make your own prediction.  dont really care about what some octopus comes up with.

I read your entire post but did you not say this in your first 2 sentences:

Quote from: wesleydad on December 09, 2010, 07:48:00 PM
going on the record early.  based on last weeks games with umhb and ncc, i am going with 24 - 14 wesley.  

It looks really clear to me what you based your prediction on. That was my point. Trine and Franklin were an obvious after thought on your part!!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 07:02:27 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 10, 2010, 06:56:24 PM
It looks really clear to me what you based your prediction on. That was my point. Trine and Franklin were an obvious after thought on your part!!  ;)

Franklin??? There you go again. The mighty mighty Franklin. Y'all played a tough team in NCC and that's it. Trine won the Michigan creampuff conference, so what? Let's worry about the games tomorrow
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 10, 2010, 07:15:42 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 07:02:27 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 10, 2010, 06:56:24 PM
It looks really clear to me what you based your prediction on. That was my point. Trine and Franklin were an obvious after thought on your part!!  ;)

Franklin??? There you go again. The mighty mighty Franklin. Y'all played a tough team in NCC and that's it. Trine won the Michigan creampuff conference, so what? Let's worry about the games tomorrow

Trine would beat ONU. Franklin would get third in the OAC.  NCC would get first or second in the OAC.  Just who has Mount beaten? Nobody.  UW-W not only beats Wesley tomorrow, Seventies, they make the Stagg Bowl look painfully (to you) like last year's. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 10, 2010, 07:17:04 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 10, 2010, 03:11:51 PM
footballfan, yes i read the front page.  nice article on a good defense that has stepped it up in the playoffs and sounds like they saved uww last week as the offense was having trouble.  still doesnt change my feeling that wesley will be able to score points.  now if they turn it over like ncc then they will also struggle scoring.  since i saw the wesley game the 19 was on the low end of what they could have gotten, so being in the 20's last week was not stretching it.  bottom line is this,  i believe wesley will score points tomorrow, some of you dont.  i dont think uww will score a lot of points tomorrow, some of you do.  we shall see and if i am wrong i will say so.  those that know me realize that i am not afraid to tell you what i think even if you might not like it.  i just find it interesting that no one from uww has gone out on a limb with a prediction, guess they are not as confident in what they believe to put it out there for scrutiny.  hope all uww fans have a safe journey and if you make it to the game, find me, i will be wearing a #13 jersey and be in the tailgate area around 1030.  hoping that the game lives up to the hype that we are giving it.

Excuse me?

www.uwwfootball.com
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 10, 2010, 07:29:35 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2435/3884796479_c2855d7b56.jpg

Let's all follow Warhawkdad's advice and take the road to the left. Which I think is the one that leads to Salem believe it or not.  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 10, 2010, 07:45:49 PM
bobo, no afterthought.  if you are good at this it takes more than one sentence to make a point.

bleedpurple, why should i have to go to the uww website for a prediction, post it on d3 for all to read.

skunks, not only was i laughing at your post, but my wife who hardly ever laughs at such things, could not stop laughing.  she is intersted in the caramel vodka and apple cider and how many you can have.

pawesley, thanks for finally getting my back, the game last week was not close, at least some of us realized it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 10, 2010, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 10, 2010, 07:45:49 PM
bobo, no afterthought.  if you are good at this it takes more than one sentence to make a point.

bleedpurple, why should i have to go to the uww website for a prediction, post it on d3 for all to read.

skunks, not only was i laughing at your post, but my wife who hardly ever laughs at such things, could not stop laughing.  she is intersted in the caramel vodka and apple cider and how many you can have.

pawesley, thanks for finally getting my back, the game last week was not close, at least some of us realized it.

It's not painful to go to the site, Dad. No cannons go off or anything!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2010, 07:51:31 PM
 Wesleydad   ;D   We just see things from a different viewpoint sometimes  ;) But i call like I see em... And I see alot of fearful outside posters trying to convince themselves that Wesley can't beat them!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 10, 2010, 08:03:27 PM
pawesley, so true, come from different perspectives, but in the end we both see the best wesley team so far and they have every chance to win tomorrow.  i agree, uww is worried, why not, 31 to trine and 28 to franklin, as seventies sayFRANKLIN, ARE YOU KIDDING ME.  wesley will score tomorrow.  unless we are missing something i still dont think they will score much.  we will go down together if we are wrong, but i am ok with that.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: muledaddy on December 10, 2010, 09:14:12 PM


good luck to THE WESLEY WOLVERINES.....KICK'EM BACK TO WISCONSIN..........


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 10, 2010, 09:24:09 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 10, 2010, 08:03:27 PM
pawesley, so true, come from different perspectives, but in the end we both see the best wesley team so far and they have every chance to win tomorrow.  i agree, uww is worried, why not, 31 to trine and 28 to franklin, as seventies sayFRANKLIN, ARE YOU KIDDING ME.  wesley will score tomorrow.  unless we are missing something i still dont think they will score much.  we will go down together if we are wrong, but i am ok with that.

If you guys can't see through 70's B.S. then you deserve to go down with your sinking ship!  ;) And, yes, you are missing something.

However, I do like your spunk; your fight to the bitter end mentality.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2010, 09:35:53 PM
BoBo

Tomorrow you will see that this Wesley team doesn't quit either!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: emma17 on December 10, 2010, 10:33:37 PM
Wesleydad aka spunky- Franklin put up 21 btw.

Having the benefit of seeing Mt's pass defense the last three years in Salem, I've no problem challenging Seventies- Franklin and Trine light you up Seventies.  Now don't get bent out of shape, I'm not saying they beat you.  Just think of the first half last year against UWW- that will help you picture how the might Mt would fair against Franklin and Trine.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 10, 2010, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 10, 2010, 04:57:57 PM
This just in.......

....."The D-III football semi-final game was canceled between UWW and Wesley due to excessive noise and panic.  Between the air raid sirens, and cannons going off, homeland security issued a code RED, and cancelled all public gatherings.  Due to the fact that either team would have lost to the Purple Raiders next week in Salem, the NCAA in its infinite wisdom (and cost-saving measures they are famous for) has annointed the University of Mount Union national champions of 2010."  (Film of the mayhem at 11.....evidently there is footage of WesleyDad throwing great MICROBREW bottles at the UWW cannon crew, and BleedPurple dropping 50 pound cheese wheels on the siren).  

;D ;D ;D

Yes.......I have had the day off.......anyone ever try caramel vodka and apple cider?  Oh yah.....it's THAT good.   ;)

I just got back to read this.  HILARIOUS!!!!!  :D  Go Wesley!!!!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2010, 11:01:20 PM
ski
load up the anti tank missles  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 11:27:38 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 10, 2010, 07:15:42 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 07:02:27 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 10, 2010, 06:56:24 PM
It looks really clear to me what you based your prediction on. That was my point. Trine and Franklin were an obvious after thought on your part!!  ;)

Franklin??? There you go again. The mighty mighty Franklin. Y'all played a tough team in NCC and that's it. Trine won the Michigan creampuff conference, so what? Let's worry about the games tomorrow

Trine would beat ONU. Franklin would get third in the OAC.  NCC would get first or second in the OAC.  Just who has Mount beaten? Nobody.  UW-W not only beats Wesley tomorrow, Seventies, they make the Stagg Bowl look painfully (to you) like last year's.  

If it makes your case work, then of course, Franklin is great, they are even as good as Wittenberg. Trine has one of the easiest schedules in football, but then that makes UWW look KINDA weak. Trine = Capital, maybe. As I said, North Central IS  a bonfided contender. Franklin, cut me some slack. 8-)   PS NCC would come in at least second in the WIAC, every year.

Franklin loses to Del Val and or Alfred 9 out ten times
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2010, 11:49:33 PM
 LET'S GO WESLEY
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 11, 2010, 01:41:18 AM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 11:27:38 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 10, 2010, 07:15:42 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 07:02:27 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 10, 2010, 06:56:24 PM
It looks really clear to me what you based your prediction on. That was my point. Trine and Franklin were an obvious after thought on your part!!  ;)

Franklin??? There you go again. The mighty mighty Franklin. Y'all played a tough team in NCC and that's it. Trine won the Michigan creampuff conference, so what? Let's worry about the games tomorrow

Trine would beat ONU. Franklin would get third in the OAC.  NCC would get first or second in the OAC.  Just who has Mount beaten? Nobody.  UW-W not only beats Wesley tomorrow, Seventies, they make the Stagg Bowl look painfully (to you) like last year's.  

If it makes your case work, then of course, Franklin is great, they are even as good as Wittenberg. Trine has one of the easiest schedules in football, but then that makes UWW look KINDA weak. Trine = Capital, maybe. As I said, North Central IS  a bonfided contender. Franklin, cut me some slack. 8-)   PS NCC would come in at least second in the WIAC, every year.

Franklin loses to Del Val and or Alfred 9 out ten times

You forgot to mention 70's that there have even been some recent year(s) when, if UWW was in the OAC, Mount Union would've finished 2nd.  ;)  This might be another one of those years.   :P
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: emma17 on December 11, 2010, 06:58:15 AM
Game Day. Best of luck to both teams.  The lead up banter has been fun. Safe travels to all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 11, 2010, 08:02:42 AM
GAME DAY!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 11, 2010, 08:04:02 AM
game day finally.  getting ready to head out.  i am really looking forward to this game to see if wesley can get past the last hurdle to make the stagg.  safe travels to all and i hope to see some of the uww people before the game.  still see it 24 - 14 WESLEY.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 11, 2010, 10:39:16 AM
Quote from: BoBo on December 11, 2010, 01:41:18 AM


You forgot to mention 70's that there have even been some recent year(s) when, if UWW was in the OAC, Mount Union would've finished 2nd.  ;)  This might be another one of those years.   :P


Or you could be fooling yourself. Mount Union beats Trine by 30, 99-100 times. A struggling WW, maybe not.

Got luck to both teams, make Division 3 proud
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 11, 2010, 01:50:31 PM
Big INT...

Dandy Don Meredith sings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3xsDv6yCnY)

"Turn out the lights, the party's over."



Another UWW INT, in the endzone this time.

Re-queue the chorus.

Losing Krout for the UWW game really hurt Wesley.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on December 11, 2010, 02:29:01 PM
good game.....kaboom
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 11, 2010, 02:32:19 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 11, 2010, 02:29:01 PM
good game.....kaboom
Good job, Gordon and Keith!   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WarhawkDad on December 11, 2010, 02:38:41 PM
Congrats to Wesley on a great season.  We will probably see you again next year!  After watching the game I am sure several of your players, especially on defense will be DIII All Americans.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on December 11, 2010, 02:50:45 PM
Thanks, Ralph.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Barber Greene on December 11, 2010, 02:52:05 PM
Congrats on a great season Wesley. Best of luck next season. Did I hear on the broadcast that you will be without a conference and an independent?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kelly Boggs on December 11, 2010, 02:58:14 PM
Congrats to Wesley on another stellar season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 11, 2010, 03:06:41 PM
Congratulations to the Wesley Wolverines. To advance as far as they did is a tribute to their coaches and players. To advance as far as they did with all of the injuries is even more impressive. They have much to be proud of.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 11, 2010, 03:11:01 PM
Congrats to the Wolverines and staff on another terrific season.  Best of luck in 2011.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 11, 2010, 03:20:49 PM
Well, I am really proud of our Wolverines.  It will be tough to see the stalwart seniors leave, but they have a lot to take pride in.

Well done Wesley football!  Another great year as a semi-finalist with a lot of great memories. You will be back next year to do it all over again and have another shot at breaking the Purple Duck once and for all.   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 11, 2010, 03:25:00 PM
Great season and congrats to the Wesley Wolverines, their players, coaches, staff and fans. Thanks for being such good sportsmen/woman(?) this past week. Good luck in '11. Probably see you again - same time, (hopefully) different place!!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 11, 2010, 03:30:37 PM
Quote from: Barber Greene on December 11, 2010, 02:52:05 PM
Congrats on a great season Wesley. Best of luck next season. Did I hear on the broadcast that you will be without a conference and an independent?
Yes.  They will be a pure independent.

They will have to fill a 10-game season without the help of conference games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: emma17 on December 11, 2010, 03:34:10 PM
An excellent season Wesley, you overcame an awful lot to get this far, and no doubt it was a killer losing a star receiver.
Best of luck to your seniors as they move on.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 11, 2010, 04:03:03 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 11:27:38 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 10, 2010, 07:15:42 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 10, 2010, 07:02:27 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 10, 2010, 06:56:24 PM
It looks really clear to me what you based your prediction on. That was my point. Trine and Franklin were an obvious after thought on your part!!  ;)

Franklin??? There you go again. The mighty mighty Franklin. Y'all played a tough team in NCC and that's it. Trine won the Michigan creampuff conference, so what? Let's worry about the games tomorrow

Trine would beat ONU. Franklin would get third in the OAC.  NCC would get first or second in the OAC.  Just who has Mount beaten? Nobody.  UW-W not only beats Wesley tomorrow, Seventies, they make the Stagg Bowl look painfully (to you) like last year's.  

If it makes your case work, then of course, Franklin is great, they are even as good as Wittenberg. Trine has one of the easiest schedules in football, but then that makes UWW look KINDA weak. Trine = Capital, maybe. As I said, North Central IS  a bonfided contender. Franklin, cut me some slack. 8-)   PS NCC would come in at least second in the WIAC, every year.

Franklin loses to Del Val and or Alfred 9 out ten times

Perhaps if Trine had played a tougher schedule they would have gotten Mount Unions relative cakewalk in the playoffs (compared to Whitewater's playoff matchups anyway).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 11, 2010, 04:18:59 PM
well, just short again.  more competitive then the last 2 times, so i guess we are making strides.  i will discuss the game later once i get to digest it.  congrats to the seniors for keeping the tradition going.  the program has plenty to be proud of i believe the only school other than mount and uww to make the semis 4 times in the last 6 years.  it was nice to see many of the players come back to see the team today.  another trip to the stagg and i have to cheer for someone wearing purple, but i will wear my wesley jersey proudly.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPHawkGov on December 11, 2010, 05:12:50 PM
congratulation to Wesley on an awesome season. I watched yall up close in Montgomery. Yall are a great team
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 11, 2010, 06:15:50 PM
wesleydad,

Congrats to Wesley on a great year. Just looked at the box score, 5 pics against a very good team are just not recoverable. I still like the Raiders chances against the Warhawks!  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 11, 2010, 06:48:38 PM


GREAT season Wesley,,played well in spite of a lot of adversity,,and young guys stepped up and came thru,,sign of a good program ,, should be pretty darn good next year too !!And this is from a Mount Union former and wife :o   ::)     We enjoy watching you play ,,and we will be back !!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 11, 2010, 10:26:04 PM
  Tough game today. I think the loss of Ellis was the final nail... He really opens up the other recievers. To bad his injury will probabaly cost him a good look from the scouts. ACL and MCL. Congrats to UWW . They took advantage of Wesley's untimely mistakes and when good teams get those breaks they make you pay.

  Great season Wesley!!!!! Good luck to the seniors 45-5 over the last 4 years is a great run..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 12, 2010, 09:44:28 AM
at this point it is clear that wesley is better than almost every team in d3 football except for mount and uww.  they have seemed to close the gap a little from the 05 - 06 games to the 09 - 10 games.  within 20 is better than 40.  what was obvious to me yesterday was that as good as the o-line was this season, they were no match for uww front 4.  only 7 yards rushing and 4 sacks wont get it done.  the qb picked a bad time to have his worst game, which was partly due to the pressure.  finally, again wesley can only get 7 points in the semis.  is it the game plan or poor execution or some of both?  it is fun to watch a team that is consistantly near the top, but frustrating that they haven't made the next level.  i agree with beenhit2hard, plenty of young players stepping up and many of the top players are returning so wesley will be good again next year.  a tough decision will be which offense to run, the qb centered one with mcsweeney or the rb/receiver centered one with sottilaire.  both made the semis and stats are generally misleading in this type of comparison.  the o line is young so they will improve and the defense will still be strong.  have a good offseason and get back at it again in august.  heres hoping they can find enough teams to play them since they have to go independent next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: emma17 on December 12, 2010, 10:34:52 AM
Wesleydad I respect your loyalty for the team and I do think Wesley is a fine team. My point isn't to belittle Wesley or you.  To truly make the changes needed to win a championship, you have to start w honesty in evaluation. I Strongly disagree w you that Wesley is #3 (if that's what you are saying). North Central is the best overall team (we're not talking about "talent" only) that UWW played this year. Trine would give Wesley a huge battle in a shoot-out of points. As predicted, Wesleys gaudy D stats didn't tell the whole story.

Again, my apologies if I offend some, I just think you have to be realistic in evaluating in order to improve.
   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: KitchenSink on December 12, 2010, 10:56:50 AM
I don't think wesleydad is claiming Wesley is necessarily better than NC.

"Better than almost every other team" leaves room for NC, Linfield, St T/Bethel, MHB, Wheaton, maybe even a few more to be on that tier as well.  There are maybe 6 - 8 on that tier each of the last few years with some edging up and some edging down (slightly) on a yearly basis.  Jockeying, so to speak.

I think dad's point is valid.   Emma, you are right about proper evaluation, though.  IMHO
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 12, 2010, 11:34:08 AM
emma, did not say 3rd, although i certainly think they would match up well with ncc whose offense would struggle scoring on wesley, but the wesley o would also struggle.  as far as trine, i would take wesley in any shoot out since their d is better than trines.  the defense was not the issue yesterday unless you hold it against them with the long drives of 1 and 24 yards uww had for the second half td's.  i have clearly stated that in order for wesley to be on the level of mount and uww the o line must improve.  kitchensink and i agree, their are about 5-6 teams in tier 2 and wesley has shown to be better than most of them on a yearly basis.  i dont have to evaluate, i am a fan.  i have been critical of wesley more often then most so i am far from rose colored glasses fan that you imply.  i would take wesley against any other team in the country right now with no changes unless they were playing mount or uww.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 12, 2010, 11:41:01 AM
 I think Wesley can lay strong claim to the number 3 spot .. over the last 4 years they have a 45-5 recocrd and all but one of those loses coming in the playoffs.. and their last two coming in the semi finals.


I think to get to the semi finals this year with all the starters that the offence lost to injury speaks loudly how good this program has become!! The coachs continually having to make adjustments to the game plans for all the young players and the young players themselves stepping up and playing well enough week after week to keep winning!!! I applaud the effort and the adversity will go a long way in the program going foward with the young players..

 Great season Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 12, 2010, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 12, 2010, 11:34:08 AM
emma, did not say 3rd, although i certainly think they would match up well with ncc whose offense would struggle scoring on wesley, but the wesley o would also struggle.  as far as trine, i would take wesley in any shoot out since their d is better than trines.  the defense was not the issue yesterday unless you hold it against them with the long drives of 1 and 24 yards uww had for the second half td's.  i have clearly stated that in order for wesley to be on the level of mount and uww the o line must improve.  kitchensink and i agree, their are about 5-6 teams in tier 2 and wesley has shown to be better than most of them on a yearly basis.  i dont have to evaluate, i am a fan.  i have been critical of wesley more often then most so i am far from rose colored glasses fan that you imply.  i would take wesley against any other team in the country right now with no changes unless they were playing mount or uww.

An intersting claim to make since Wesley performed the worst against UWW than both Trine and NCC.  Trine lost to UWW AT UWW by 14.   North Central lost at home to UWW by 10.   Wesley lost at home to UWW by 20.  Would Wesley have done better playing at UWW instead?  I do have to admit that I am looking at things through my Trine colored glasses, though.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 12, 2010, 01:28:41 PM
uncle rico, no issue with that, i just dont think if trine played wesley that they would stop wesley more than wesley would stop trine.  it is not about uww as a comparison.  i am going be match ups of the teams and wesley matches up with both ncc and trine better than they do uww.  just my opinion.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 12, 2010, 01:34:57 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 12, 2010, 01:28:41 PM
uncle rico, no issue with that, i just dont think if trine played wesley that they would stop wesley more than wesley would stop trine.  it is not about uww as a comparison.  i am going be match ups of the teams and wesley matches up with both ncc and trine better than they do uww.  just my opinion.

I think we all agree that Trine, Wesley, and NCC all match up better against each other than they do against UWW!   :)  Unfortunately all roads to Salem have tended to pass through Mount Union or UWW.  Hopefully we all will change that one day!   :)  

I do have to root for UWW this year.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 12, 2010, 02:47:26 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 12, 2010, 01:34:57 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 12, 2010, 01:28:41 PM
uncle rico, no issue with that, i just dont think if trine played wesley that they would stop wesley more than wesley would stop trine.  it is not about uww as a comparison.  i am going be match ups of the teams and wesley matches up with both ncc and trine better than they do uww.  just my opinion.

I think we all agree that Trine, Wesley, and NCC all match up better against each other than they do against UWW!   :)  Unfortunately all roads to Salem have tended to pass through Mount Union or UWW.  Hopefully we all will change that one day!   :) 

I do have to root for UWW this year.   ;)

Uncle Rico,

Who did you root for last year? ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 12, 2010, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 12, 2010, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 12, 2010, 11:34:08 AM
emma, did not say 3rd, although i certainly think they would match up well with ncc whose offense would struggle scoring on wesley, but the wesley o would also struggle.  as far as trine, i would take wesley in any shoot out since their d is better than trines.  the defense was not the issue yesterday unless you hold it against them with the long drives of 1 and 24 yards uww had for the second half td's.  i have clearly stated that in order for wesley to be on the level of mount and uww the o line must improve.  kitchensink and i agree, their are about 5-6 teams in tier 2 and wesley has shown to be better than most of them on a yearly basis.  i dont have to evaluate, i am a fan.  i have been critical of wesley more often then most so i am far from rose colored glasses fan that you imply.  i would take wesley against any other team in the country right now with no changes unless they were playing mount or uww.


An intersting claim to make since Wesley performed the worst against UWW than both Trine and NCC.  Trine lost to UWW AT UWW by 14.   North Central lost at home to UWW by 10.   Wesley lost at home to UWW by 20.  Would Wesley have done better playing at UWW instead?  I do have to admit that I am looking at things through my Trine colored glasses, though.   :)
But Trine only beat DePauw by 10, and most of us in the ASC thought that the SCAC was down this year.

I have a hard time with scores and margins of victory at this time of the season.  Once a team finally pulls ahead of another team in a winner-take-all scenario, there can wide swings in the scoring when a losing team starts going for it all and plays game that is higher-risk, both for scoring and for mistakes.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 12, 2010, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on December 12, 2010, 02:47:26 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 12, 2010, 01:34:57 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 12, 2010, 01:28:41 PM
uncle rico, no issue with that, i just dont think if trine played wesley that they would stop wesley more than wesley would stop trine.  it is not about uww as a comparison.  i am going be match ups of the teams and wesley matches up with both ncc and trine better than they do uww.  just my opinion.

I think we all agree that Trine, Wesley, and NCC all match up better against each other than they do against UWW!   :)  Unfortunately all roads to Salem have tended to pass through Mount Union or UWW.  Hopefully we all will change that one day!   :) 

I do have to root for UWW this year.   ;)

Uncle Rico,

Who did you root for last year? ;D

Wittenburg!   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 12, 2010, 04:12:27 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 12, 2010, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 12, 2010, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 12, 2010, 11:34:08 AM
emma, did not say 3rd, although i certainly think they would match up well with ncc whose offense would struggle scoring on wesley, but the wesley o would also struggle.  as far as trine, i would take wesley in any shoot out since their d is better than trines.  the defense was not the issue yesterday unless you hold it against them with the long drives of 1 and 24 yards uww had for the second half td's.  i have clearly stated that in order for wesley to be on the level of mount and uww the o line must improve.  kitchensink and i agree, their are about 5-6 teams in tier 2 and wesley has shown to be better than most of them on a yearly basis.  i dont have to evaluate, i am a fan.  i have been critical of wesley more often then most so i am far from rose colored glasses fan that you imply.  i would take wesley against any other team in the country right now with no changes unless they were playing mount or uww.


An intersting claim to make since Wesley performed the worst against UWW than both Trine and NCC.  Trine lost to UWW AT UWW by 14.   North Central lost at home to UWW by 10.   Wesley lost at home to UWW by 20.  Would Wesley have done better playing at UWW instead?  I do have to admit that I am looking at things through my Trine colored glasses, though.   :)
But Trine only beat DePauw by 10, and most of us in the ASC thought that the SCAC was down this year.

I have a hard time with scores and margins of victory at this time of the season.  Once a team finally pulls ahead of another team in a winner-take-all scenario, there can wide swings in the scoring when a losing team starts going for it all and plays game that is higher-risk, both for scoring and for mistakes.



You got me there    ;)  ...but it was a road game for Trine, and we all know how much harder it is to win on the road in the playoffs.     :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 12, 2010, 04:18:13 PM
Great season Wesley! Its amazing how far they went and how much adversity they had to handle to get there. I do think the game would have been different if we maybe had Krout, McAndrew, or McSweeny, Knight, Travis Douglas, or DeAndre Fowlkes....but thats the past. Wesley did play a good half of football but it ended like 2009. Falling apart late. Just need to finish those games and finish drives.

Nice win Whitewater. I was really impressed by Coppage. Just how shifty and how hard he was to tackle was amazing. Best of luck vs. UMU. I still hate purple though  ;)

Next to UWW and Mount, I think Wesley has become one of the strongest programs in Division III. 72-9 over the past 6 years. Making it to the semis in 4 of those 6. They arent on their level yet..... but theyre the best of the rest IMO.

Now time for a long offseason. Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 12, 2010, 04:29:21 PM
Trine is on everyone's radar now. I hope that they can continue to improve.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 12, 2010, 05:41:18 PM
WesleyDad-Sorry we can't go at this week, still looking forward to bantering in the lot on Saturday.

So.......you sitting with us this year 8-) ;D 8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 12, 2010, 07:30:11 PM
seventies, certainly in for the banter in the lot, as far as seats go i have no idea where or which side we are sitting on.  stone station is getting them and i go where they go.  good chance i cheer for you this time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on December 12, 2010, 09:01:32 PM
They have to be as sick of Whitewater winning as the rest of the civilized world  :D, although I'm  not real sure about Olinemom.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 13, 2010, 07:48:14 AM
Never happen....those guys ALWAYS cheer against us, and WesleyDad always joins them.  It's just wrong!   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 13, 2010, 02:33:12 PM
skunks, if it makes you feel any better, i am picking mount plus the 2.5. ::)  was usually cheering against mount because they had won it so many times.  now it is 3 - 2 in the last 5 so i am re-thinking.  plus, the uww arrogance this year was more annoying than the mount of the past years.  besides, most of you guys stop by and say hi at the stagg and i have visited alliance and been welcomed so after further review seems like i may need to change my alligience this year.  besides that will be the only chance i have to get back on hscoach's xmas card list.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 13, 2010, 05:11:01 PM
^ it's a start.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 13, 2010, 06:54:11 PM
 The UWW coach actually wore a purple suit to the friday nite press conference and  UWW went to the ncaa and asked that Wesley build a wall in the coaches area above the press box!!! I too am rooting for Mount!!!! And beenhit2hard had nothing to do with it!!!  ;D   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 13, 2010, 06:56:20 PM
pawesley, i saw that too.  told the kid with me that that was new and probably had something to do with uww.  guess when you win you get to make certain requests.  no effect on game, but found it interesting.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 13, 2010, 09:11:55 PM
Having been up on top of that press box, that's a reasonable request.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 14, 2010, 10:50:35 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 13, 2010, 02:33:12 PM
skunks, if it makes you feel any better, i am picking mount plus the 2.5. ::)  was usually cheering against mount because they had won it so many times.  now it is 3 - 2 in the last 5 so i am re-thinking.  plus, the uww arrogance this year was more annoying than the mount of the past years.  besides, most of you guys stop by and say hi at the stagg and i have visited alliance and been welcomed so after further review seems like i may need to change my alligience this year.  besides that will be the only chance i have to get back on hscoach's xmas card list.

wesleydad,

Glad to have your support! The picture of tailgating looks like you on the left wearing Wesley #13 with a beverage in hand! ;D ;D +k
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 14, 2010, 10:59:18 AM
raider68, that would be me and it is a great picture of some great people who braved (or were stupid enough) to make the trip last year.  as we all keep saying it was fun until the ride home.  you dont get to attend too many events and last year certainly was one. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 14, 2010, 01:21:08 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on December 14, 2010, 10:50:35 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 13, 2010, 02:33:12 PM
skunks, if it makes you feel any better, i am picking mount plus the 2.5. ::)  was usually cheering against mount because they had won it so many times.  now it is 3 - 2 in the last 5 so i am re-thinking.  plus, the uww arrogance this year was more annoying than the mount of the past years.  besides, most of you guys stop by and say hi at the stagg and i have visited alliance and been welcomed so after further review seems like i may need to change my alligience this year.  besides that will be the only chance i have to get back on hscoach's xmas card list.

wesleydad,

Glad to have your support! The picture of tailgating looks like you on the left wearing Wesley #13 with a beverage in hand! ;D ;D +k

I think that might have been the only time he wasn't double-fisted.   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 14, 2010, 08:08:55 PM
skunks, since there was some shoveling involved in the day, i had to catch up.  the photographer caught me between trips to the cooler to refill the other cup. ;)  only 2 days to get through until the friday morning trip to salem.  cant wait.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 18, 2010, 09:53:30 PM
well, i just watched a really fun game at the stagg.  too bad wesley wasnt in it.  after the game tonight i feel better about  the effort of the defense last week but more disappointed in the offense.  wesley is close, just need to keep improving the line play and who knows.  mount is young so they will be good again.  uww loses many linemen on both sides so who knows.  hope for next year with all the players coming back next year.  workout hard in the off season and get ready for another run at it all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 19, 2010, 12:29:05 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 18, 2010, 09:53:30 PM
well, i just watched a really fun game at the stagg.  too bad wesley wasnt in it.  after the game tonight i feel better about  the effort of the defense last week but more disappointed in the offense.  wesley is close, just need to keep improving the line play and who knows.  mount is young so they will be good again.  uww loses many linemen on both sides so who knows.  hope for next year with all the players coming back next year.  workout hard in the off season and get ready for another run at it all.

I agree about the defense!!  Wesley held Coppage to 146 yards rushing and UWW to 316 total offensive yards compared to 299 and 433 for the finals!  Not too shabby!!  The same could be said for last year.  The 24 points that Mount Union scored against Wesley in the semis was the lowest allowed for the entire season, including the finals.  So, you have to give Wesley's defense some cudos and they could very well be the best in the nation.  I sure hope to see McSweeney and McAndrew in practice next season to return the "Irish Connection" back into Wesley's offensive arsenal.  Sottilaire did an outstanding job this year, but having the dual threat of McSweeney on the field with his scramble ability adds another dimension. If Sottilaire starts next year, he got some really good experience this year to carry with him. So, we wait for another season to start with Wesley yet again knocking at the door to break the Purple Duck.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 19, 2010, 03:00:00 PM
ski, i would only disagree about the best defense in the nation, i think that goes to uww after what i saw the last 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: nccfac on December 19, 2010, 03:18:17 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 19, 2010, 03:00:00 PM
ski, i would only disagree about the best defense in the nation, i think that goes to uww after what i saw the last 2 weeks.
I would put North Central in that mix. They held Coppage to 107 yards on 29 carries with a long of 13. Total yards for UWW was 253, while NCC had 306. NCC also held them to a low of 20 points. Even with these stats, it does not mean that UMU or Wesley defenses are not as good.... on any given day there can be so many factors that can influence the play or the decisions made... that it is not fair to use one game to compare teams. Instead of trying to find metrics to determine who might be best, let's work on getting teams like Wesley and North Central to replace the all purple championship games. Red and Navy would be nice replacement colors, don't you think?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 19, 2010, 04:55:04 PM
UWW got the breaks against Wesley and took adventage of them!!! You can blame that on the Wesley D. Tehy were definately the better team yesterday against  Mount . But now who is really No .2!!!!! ;D 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 19, 2010, 06:17:13 PM
nccfac, only issue is that they held ncc's offense to 10 and wesley to 7.  they cant play against their own offense so we dont know how they handle coppage.  i do agree that someon has to step up and change things.  i have gone to the last four staggs and had a good time, but many of the folks that i hang with would like to see someon else.

pawesley, no one blaming wesely d, if there is blame for the wesley lose it is on the offense, but have to give credit to the guys that made it miserable, the uww d.

from what i have seen, mount is 2, then the debate between wesley and ncc which seems pretty even.  mounts o line did a nice job giving the qb time yesterday, wesely did not nor did ncc.  the lines are the difference to me.  plus cecil makes the game different, he almost did it yesterday.  first pass was a td if the receiver does not drop it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: nccfac on December 19, 2010, 07:28:45 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 19, 2010, 06:17:13 PM
nccfac, only issue is that they held ncc's offense to 10 and wesley to 7.  they cant play against their own offense so we dont know how they handle coppage.  i do agree that someon has to step up and change things.  i have gone to the last four staggs and had a good time, but many of the folks that i hang with would like to see someon else.

pawesley, no one blaming wesely d, if there is blame for the wesley lose it is on the offense, but have to give credit to the guys that made it miserable, the uww d.

from what i have seen, mount is 2, then the debate between wesley and ncc which seems pretty even.  mounts o line did a nice job giving the qb time yesterday, wesely did not nor did ncc.  the lines are the difference to me.  plus cecil makes the game different, he almost did it yesterday.  first pass was a td if the receiver does not drop it.
I agree wesleydad, the o-lines for both UWW and UMU are both a notch above the others and it makes a big difference. I think both Wesley and NCC could use the D-Line to bring pressure and even sacks against lesser teams, but not against UWW. I think UMU would be similar watching their line against UWW.
That's why a Red (NCC) and Navy (wesley) would be a good alternative to the usual purple fest, we know what has to be done. Get Better.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 19, 2010, 07:58:20 PM
 The slants that the UWW D line uses was very effective against Wesley... and the linebackers fill nicely..

Still would have liked to see those four guys Wesley lost play that game...May have not made a difference but IMHO Wesley scores more with just Krout able to play. 

Mount losing their QB the week before doesn't help them either. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 19, 2010, 08:01:53 PM
+1 Wesley dad .

man you took some hits ths week!!! 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 19, 2010, 10:20:09 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 19, 2010, 04:55:04 PM
But now who is really No .2!!!!! ;D  

The #2 pick is the easy one - IMO has to be Mount (got to beat them to replace them). The next 2 are really up for grabs. My guess would go like this:

1. UWW
2. UMU

3. Wesley (because they made it to the semi's)
4. NCC (gave UWW it's toughest game)

5. Bethel (made it to the semi's)

Then the rest...I do expect Trine to jump into the top ten - the Thunder were very impressive in defeat in round two. They would give a lot of teams fits.

I would have no problem with #2 and #3 being reversed - they might match-up rather well.

The Pre-season Top 25 should be interesting once again to debate when the time comes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 19, 2010, 11:01:19 PM
Bobo

  I would agree with you on Mount.. As for next year?? Teams change over so much that other than a few teams the replentishment of talent is hard sometimes
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 19, 2010, 11:52:29 PM
Some very good points all around!    Next year will definately be interesting.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 20, 2010, 08:40:57 AM
pawesley, i guess some uww people dont like when someone thinks their team has a chance to beat uww.  i do agree that if krout plays wesley has a better shot to score, but i still am not sure if they get much more since the o line had trouble pass blocking in the second half.  i think they match up better against mount, but still think they are a notch below.  the difference is getting closer so wesley just needs to keep improving.  the foundation is set so now the fine tuning has to occur.  have a good holiday season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 20, 2010, 12:12:29 PM
Another season is in the books. And I think that it was a particularly interesting season because of all the guys that stepped up in place of injuries and adversity, and to make it as far as they did was an accomplishment in itself, and shows what a great program Wesley has going for them.

As for next year, its going to be interesting. McAndrew will presumably return at tight end. McSweeny will return to compete with Sottilare for the starting spot at Quarterback. The whole o-line returns with the exception of Anthony West. And the only spots they really have to fill is the DBs and wideouts, which is something that can be done. Hopefully next year we will get another crack at it.

Happy Holidays!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 21, 2010, 04:23:56 PM
wesleydad,

Before the week goes by, I wanted to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a Happy and healthy new Year. I hope our paths cross next year and maybe the Raiders and Wesley will meet again! +k to you  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 21, 2010, 08:35:47 PM
raider68, same to you and your family.  my travel may be limited next year as the younger son is getting married in october.  obviously he did not ask my opinion for picking a date.  but we shall see what comes of it all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 24, 2010, 04:44:48 PM
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on January 07, 2011, 11:36:41 AM
wesleydad,

Hope your New Year is starting off well!

What type (size/speed/etc) of recruits will Wesley need for the fall and what areas are they losing key players? :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on January 07, 2011, 09:40:28 PM
footballscoop.com (http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop) has reported this:

"Delaware State: Our sources tell us that Wesley College head coach Mike Drass has been offered the head coaching job at Delaware State."

Not much action on this board lately, but if anyone stops by, any comments?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 09, 2011, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: BoBo on January 07, 2011, 09:40:28 PM
footballscoop.com (http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop) has reported this:

"Delaware State: Our sources tell us that Wesley College head coach Mike Drass has been offered the head coaching job at Delaware State."

Not much action on this board lately, but if anyone stops by, any comments?


:o Wow, now that is a development if that is the case.  I guess we will know soon enough if this is true......  The implications are terrifying.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on January 09, 2011, 10:20:03 AM
Quote from: Teamski on January 09, 2011, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: BoBo on January 07, 2011, 09:40:28 PM
footballscoop.com (http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop) has reported this:

"Delaware State: Our sources tell us that Wesley College head coach Mike Drass has been offered the head coaching job at Delaware State."

Not much action on this board lately, but if anyone stops by, any comments?


:o Wow, now that is a development if that is the case.  I guess we will know soon enough if this is true......  The implications are terrifying.

-Ski

Teamski,

If Coach Drass does leave, is there an assistant ready to become HC? :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 09, 2011, 12:48:39 PM
Quote from: Teamski on January 09, 2011, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: BoBo on January 07, 2011, 09:40:28 PM
footballscoop.com (http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop) has reported this:

"Delaware State: Our sources tell us that Wesley College head coach Mike Drass has been offered the head coaching job at Delaware State."

Not much action on this board lately, but if anyone stops by, any comments?


:o Wow, now that is a development if that is the case.  I guess we will know soon enough if this is true......  The implications are terrifying.

-Ski
A weaker Wesley might have an easier time of getting into a conference, or a conference affiliation.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 09, 2011, 08:12:51 PM
 Coach has had offers before. I don't know that Del St. is an ideal move up for him but time will tell.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on January 09, 2011, 08:51:09 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on January 09, 2011, 08:12:51 PM
Coach has had offers before. I don't know that Del St. is an ideal move up for him but time will tell.

I was wondering about that myself. Is it really a step up to go from a top-level D3 program to a low-level FCS program, especially for someone like Drass who has already established a very good coaching reputation.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on January 10, 2011, 06:25:47 PM
Anyone hear any more about Coach Drass,,things might be on hold till the AFCA convention is over,,I don't know mich about DEL State,,or the conference,,just wondering ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 10, 2011, 11:25:34 PM
beenhit2hard


Did you finally get dug out from all that snow??? Looks like you may dodge the next one!!! Hope all is well down there on the penisula
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on January 11, 2011, 06:39:52 AM
Quote from: BoBo on January 07, 2011, 09:40:28 PM
footballscoop.com (http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop) has reported this:

"Delaware State: Our sources tell us that Wesley College head coach Mike Drass has been offered the head coaching job at Delaware State."

Not much action on this board lately, but if anyone stops by, any comments?


Here's your answer...

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110111/SPORTS08/101110339
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on January 11, 2011, 09:04:46 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on January 10, 2011, 11:25:34 PM
beenhit2hard


Did you finally get dug out from all that snow??? Looks like you may dodge the next one!!! Hope all is well down there on the penisula

Yes, we made it around,,4 wheel drive Jeep ;D  How is the back ??JUst wondering about Wesley situation,,could be interesting if he goes. Only another 10 minute drive for us.We are getting ready to go skiing in NY next week so we look forward to the snow  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 11, 2011, 03:50:35 PM
Quote from: dedragon on January 11, 2011, 06:39:52 AM
Here's your answer...

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110111/SPORTS08/101110339

Ahh, great find, thank you!    I was worried there for a moment.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 11, 2011, 04:44:13 PM
beenhit2hard

You and the Misses havea great time.. I am sure there will be Snow in Ny!! and by the looks of it, all along the way too!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on January 11, 2011, 06:57:59 PM
We are getting ready,,and I am glad I can still wear my blue shirts to games this coming season,, wasn'tsure if I could buy wasp or hornet or whatever they are clothing for next year,,still have way to much purple ::) ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on January 13, 2011, 09:09:04 PM
nice representation for wesley on the all decade teams.  i feel really lucky that i got to see all four of them play.  myers when jason got there and the other 3 were on the teams that jason played on.  real nice for lano who is still the best and meanest tight end i have seen.  robinson and beavers first team are good choices.  congrat wesley.  and also glad to see that drass is not going to del st or at least that is the latest report.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on January 13, 2011, 10:06:11 PM
Cool all decade team. Nice representation of Wesley but I think the player that was left off was Chris Warrick. He IMO was easily "all decade". His stats were just as good if not better than those listed. Just my opinion but I expected to see that name somewhere.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on January 14, 2011, 10:50:38 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on January 13, 2011, 09:09:04 PM
nice representation for wesley on the all decade teams.  i feel really lucky that i got to see all four of them play.  myers when jason got there and the other 3 were on the teams that jason played on.  real nice for lano who is still the best and meanest tight end i have seen.  robinson and beavers first team are good choices.  congrat wesley.  and also glad to see that drass is not going to del st or at least that is the latest report.

wesleydad,

You got to see a few more in the Stagg Bowls as well! +k  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on January 14, 2011, 02:35:46 PM
raider68, i would venture to guess that in my travels the last 6 or so years that i have seen as many or more of the all decade team than anyone else.  i have been lucky in the talent that i have seen on the field with wesley being one of the top teams and my willingness to travel to find a good game.  been a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on January 14, 2011, 04:21:18 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on January 14, 2011, 02:35:46 PM
raider68, i would venture to guess that in my travels the last 6 or so years that i have seen as many or more of the all decade team than anyone else.  i have been lucky in the talent that i have seen on the field with wesley being one of the top teams and my willingness to travel to find a good game.  been a lot of fun.

wesleydad,

Seeing all those good players in many games are the experiences you will never forget! :) Well done!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on February 20, 2011, 09:26:26 AM
wesleydad,

When do Spring drills start for Wesley? It has been too long of a winter! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 27, 2011, 12:45:00 AM
Oohh, very interesting!!  FCS Big South member, Chartlotte Southern University has Wesley scheduled for its homecoming game on it's site!  Looks like Wesley is going to wrestle with another bull this year!  Oh yeah!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 27, 2011, 05:16:06 PM
Raider 68

Spring practice starts March 13

Ski

Only nine games again.. CNU backed out of agreement and Hobart had the same two open dates  and only 8 games and still sadi no thanks...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 27, 2011, 05:34:21 PM
Is the schedule published?  I haven't seen it yet.  Once again Wesley is stymied.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 27, 2011, 07:15:54 PM
I am sure you have ways of seeing the unfinished schedule.  ;D No they usually don't make it public until the golf outing!! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on March 21, 2011, 01:45:37 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on February 27, 2011, 05:16:06 PM
Raider 68

Spring practice starts March 13

Ski

Only nine games again.. CNU backed out of agreement and Hobart had the same two open dates  and only 8 games and still sadi no thanks...

Sad that these schools just back out of a committment! ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on May 05, 2011, 07:11:38 AM
wesleydad, Teamski,

Any news over there for the Spring ( or at least it is called Spring)? ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on May 09, 2011, 06:27:16 PM
raider68, i have no connections at the school so i have no info on the spring practices.  schedule is out, only 6 d3 games.  tough being an independent with teams backing out of commitments to play.  4 home games means i wont see them much this year.  oh well, have to keep up through the boards.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: etbu27 on May 11, 2011, 03:12:44 PM
Howdy all,
Luckily for you wesleydad the season opener COULD be a good one. Hopefully the ETBU that took UMHB to overtime shows up and not the ETBU that lost to TLU. We have a strong group of seniors and 16 starters returning (all in the skill positions). If we could ever make it a game I think next season is the one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on May 11, 2011, 05:05:06 PM


  It seems as if this board is coming out of the winter "hibernation". Nice to see interest picking up !!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on May 11, 2011, 10:59:28 PM
Yeah, it is going to be another nasty year on the bus for the Wolverines, that is for sure!  Maine, Ohio, SC, VA, and NJ.  Without a doubt, there are challenges on that schedule.  Of course, Charleston Southern tops the list.  They play UCF and Florida State at the top of their schedule!  Walsh should be a good game as well.  They seem to be a good NAIA team.  It will be fun to see some new opposing teams' uniforms this season as well as some new stadiums for a change, hehehehe.....

I'm sure the team is up for it and I know the players want the challenge.  It is no fun playing walkovers.  And you know that Charleston Southern is no Iona!   They beat North Greenville last year 41-31.  If there is any sort of common ground,  Wesley beat North Greenville in 2009 28-3.   This will be one exciting game!

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on May 14, 2011, 07:58:34 PM
News from Huntingdon is since we are starting lacrosse next spring, we are having artificial turf installed on the football field this spring/summer. We are also supposed to be getting permanent seating on the visitor's side. Happy to hear that.
Was in Montgomery today for a high school baseball playoff game so I rode by to see if work had started. Looks like the only thing so far is the goal posts have been taken down.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on May 15, 2011, 02:08:32 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on May 14, 2011, 07:58:34 PM
News from Huntingdon is since we are starting lacrosse next spring, we are having artificial turf installed on the football field this spring/summer. We are also supposed to be getting permanent seating on the visitor's side. Happy to hear that.
Was in Montgomery today for a high school baseball playoff game so I rode by to see if work had started. Looks like the only thing so far is the goal posts have been taken down.

Go Hawks!

That will definately be a nice improvement!  Hopefully the lockers will get some attention too.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on June 07, 2011, 01:20:04 PM
For wesleydad:

I recently bought a copy of the Sporting News College Football annual.

Wesley is ranked #3 in their preseason Top 25.

My question: they include Shane McSweeny as one of 8 offensive starters returning; by any chance have you heard anything about how he is progressing? I've seen nothing in the paper (usually read The News Journal) but - as I suspect you know - they do not give much coverage to Wesley athletics.

Thank you.

Ned
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on June 07, 2011, 07:03:27 PM
ned, do not know much of anything.  no connections in school anymore.  will not know much until the season starts.  teamski will know more as he was at spring practice.  will be interesting to see if they have an actual competition for the starting job as i believe sottilaire was also only a junior.  they should be good and the defense will be real hard to score on with plenty back from last years team.  offense will score plenty against most but they have a schedule with some teams i dont know much about.  etbu is supposed to be pretty good this year, took umhb to ot last year.  still a tough trip to dover for first game of season.  welcome to the boards.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on June 07, 2011, 11:35:28 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on June 07, 2011, 07:03:27 PM
ned, do not know much of anything.  no connections in school anymore.  will not know much until the season starts.  teamski will know more as he was at spring practice.  will be interesting to see if they have an actual competition for the starting job as i believe sottilaire was also only a junior.  they should be good and the defense will be real hard to score on with plenty back from last years team.  offense will score plenty against most but they have a schedule with some teams i dont know much about.  etbu is supposed to be pretty good this year, took umhb to ot last year.  still a tough trip to dover for first game of season.  welcome to the boards.

Actually, I wasn't at Spring practice this year.  That said, I believe that both McSweeney and McAndrew should be back next year.  I don't have any info on how Wesley will resolve the starting QB battle, but if McSweeney is 100% (which I'm sure he will be), his uncanny scrambling ability will be a real asset.  It will be one interesting year!


-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on June 08, 2011, 03:20:57 PM
Teamski:

Appreciate your reply.

I'm fairly new to this board and had seen posts by wesleydad so immediately thought of him when I posted my question; I did not realize you are also a close follower of Wesley. I certainly did not mean to bypass you (and probably others here as well)!

Ned

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 08, 2011, 10:11:18 PM
Welcome aboard NedM
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on June 08, 2011, 11:10:31 PM
Quote from: NedM on June 08, 2011, 03:20:57 PM
Teamski:

Appreciate your reply.

I'm fairly new to this board and had seen posts by wesleydad so immediately thought of him when I posted my question; I did not realize you are also a close follower of Wesley. I certainly did not mean to bypass you (and probably others here as well)!

Ned



A very warm welcome to the board Ned!  :D

-Eric
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on June 09, 2011, 02:44:12 PM
Hey Team...WD...

I was out at a local establishment here in North Canton, and ran into a few Walsh football players.  We were chatting about people we knew, etc...  I mentioned to them that I knew they were playing Wesley, and they were very dismissive.  I gave them a little history of how good I thought Wesley was, but they were not impressed.  Of course, they believe they would kill Mount as well if they played.  I just shook my head and laughed.

I will make sure to catch up with you guys if you come to town for that game. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on June 11, 2011, 01:48:41 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on June 09, 2011, 02:44:12 PM
Hey Team...WD...

I was out at a local establishment here in North Canton, and ran into a few Walsh football players.  We were chatting about people we knew, etc...  I mentioned to them that I knew they were playing Wesley, and they were very dismissive.  I gave them a little history of how good I thought Wesley was, but they were not impressed.  Of course, they believe they would kill Mount as well if they played.  I just shook my head and laughed.

I will make sure to catch up with you guys if you come to town for that game.  

Oh well..... As they say, let the truth be told out on the field.  ;)

I hope to see you there!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on June 12, 2011, 07:25:50 PM



Some players at Walsh/Malone tend to think that since they have some scholarship money given to them that it makes the automatically better than D 3 players who have to pay their own way.When we(MUC) played them in jv/ frosh games many of those players became very humble very quickly ::) ::) ::)

I would say Wesley by 4 tds against either of those two teams .BUT REMEMBER I now follow Wesley as much or more than UMU
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on June 16, 2011, 04:48:47 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on June 09, 2011, 02:44:12 PM
Hey Team...WD...

I was out at a local establishment here in North Canton, and ran into a few Walsh football players.  We were chatting about people we knew, etc...  I mentioned to them that I knew they were playing Wesley, and they were very dismissive.  I gave them a little history of how good I thought Wesley was, but they were not impressed.  Of course, they believe they would kill Mount as well if they played.  I just shook my head and laughed.

I will make sure to catch up with you guys if you come to town for that game. 

We lived in North Canton for 8 years (just moved) and skunks_ is correct. Walsh will have their hands full with Wesley and I would expect Wesley to come out on top this October. I met a few of their players a couple years ago and they thought Mount and the top D3 teams would be too much for their program. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on June 27, 2011, 02:46:43 PM
thanks for the info skunks and raider.  did not know anything about walsh and hadnt looked them up yet to see who they play.  will be interesting when they meet.  shame wesley has to play up to fill out the schedule.  skunks and raider, my trips will be limited this year as my younger son is getting married in october and as you can tell by the date did not check with me as to when a good time to get married was, certainly not during football season. ;)  hope all is well and if nothing else a trip to the stagg is still on the agenda.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on July 25, 2011, 12:53:43 AM
Congrads to Wesley's Chris Mayes, Mike Asiedu and Jeff Morgan for making D3 Football's preseason All Amerrican team.  Well done gentlemen!   ;D

-  Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on August 07, 2011, 08:22:14 PM
Teamski,

IYO what teams will be the greatest challenge to Wesley this fall? :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on August 07, 2011, 09:44:10 PM
This page(http://football.huntingdon.edu/) has a link to pictures of the Huntingdon's new turf and visitor's side seating construction. The only minus is with the repositioning of the playing surface to account for the future addition of a track, the home seating and press box aren't centered on the 50 yd line. I know there are plans to add a section to the north end of the seating to even them up but I don't know if the press box can be moved or if there are plans to add on to it too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 07, 2011, 10:12:45 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 07, 2011, 09:44:10 PM
This page(http://football.huntingdon.edu/) has a link to pictures of the Huntingdon's new turf and visitor's side seating construction. The only minus is with the repositioning of the playing surface to account for the future addition of a track, the home seating and press box aren't centered on the 50 yd line. I know there are plans to add a section to the north end of the seating to even them up but I don't know if the press box can be moved or if there are plans to add on to it too.

I don't see how you can get a track around that configuration.  You will  need some type of blunted oval as we have at McMurry.

By the way, our national champion runners say that our track at McMurry is as good as Mike Myers Track at UT-Austin. I hope the same for you when you add track.

The distant (north) end of the track also contains the Steeplechase water jump.

Wilford Moore (http://www.mcmurrysports.com/sports/2010/8/26/FB_0826103928.aspx?path=football)

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 08, 2011, 08:58:22 AM
Quote from: Raider 68 on August 07, 2011, 08:22:14 PM
Teamski,

IYO what teams will be the greatest challenge to Wesley this fall? :)

Well, obviously Charleston Southern will be the most challenging.  Any FCS team offers a Division III team a serious challenge.  I talked to some of the players and they are really hyped about it.  Wesley players really enjoy a tough game when they can get it.  It allows them to step up their game.  Right now, I don't see any of the other teams giving Wesley a run for their money, but we all know how teams work on their game to be the giant killers.  Wesley is travelling quite a bit once again, so they cannot take anything for granted.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on August 08, 2011, 09:24:05 AM
Quote from: Teamski on August 08, 2011, 08:58:22 AM
Quote from: Raider 68 on August 07, 2011, 08:22:14 PM
Teamski,

IYO what teams will be the greatest challenge to Wesley this fall? :)

Well, obviously Charleston Southern will be the most challenging.  Any FCS team offers a Division III team a serious challenge.  I talked to some of the players and they are really hyped about it.  Wesley players really enjoy a tough game when they can get it.  It allows them to step up their game.  Right now, I don't see any of the other teams giving Wesley a run for their money, but we all know how teams work on their game to be the giant killers.  Wesley is travelling quite a bit once again, so they cannot take anything for granted.

-Ski

Thanks for the info!  :) +k
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 10, 2011, 07:36:18 PM
ski, hope all is well in dover.  things get started this week so it will be nice for you to see some practice and let us know how things look.  what will be the decision at qb?  the defense looks like it will be better than last year with the pre-season all americans which will not be good for most opponents.  points will be tough to come by for the opposition.  the schedule doesnt give us much chance to see them, the road games are a bit far away.  i am sure that charleston southern took the wesley game as a breather, central florida and florida st for their first 2 games.  hopefully wesley can compete.  will likely make the first game against etbu, not sure after that, schedule is filled with the youngest son getting married in october, stuff needs to get done since it is in connecticut.  when is the scrimmage?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on August 11, 2011, 08:07:28 AM
Wesleydad:

I'm in a similar situation. Son of one of our best friends is geting married on 10/8 so will miss the Frostburg game.

Hoping to get to see a playoff game or two but don't want to be too presumptive.

Looking forward to insight from Teamski.

Ned
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 13, 2011, 08:23:41 PM
Wesley had  190 players show up for the first day of camp. Interesting to see who will be the next surprises of camp
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on August 14, 2011, 04:24:07 PM
The Chincoteague Ponies had 23 !!! ::) :o ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 15, 2011, 11:29:46 PM
 Beenhit2hard
Makes for a lot of one on onme coaching ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 16, 2011, 11:31:27 AM
we actually have a player from Chincoteague on our roster this year -- might be a first for us :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on August 16, 2011, 03:24:07 PM
PA-Wesleyfan:

I was astounded when I saw that number but drove by the field this morning and could believe it. Also amazing they have that much equipment.

Does Wesley cut players or do they rely on "natural selection" and assume someone tenth on the depth chart will decide it's time to move on to their lifes's work?

Ned
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 17, 2011, 10:18:50 PM
Hey guys!

Scrimmage is next Thursday at 1730.  I don't know who they are playing, though.  I will be there doing my thing as usual.   ;D   The fight for QB between McSweeney and Sottilaire will probably head into the beginning of the season, but I am thinking McSweeney is going to lead the team this season. You can't beat his scramble ability.    That said, Justin Sottilaire did one hell of a job last year getting the Wolverines into the semis.  That was monumental to say the least.  Getting McAndrews back will once again complete the Irish connection that I loved to see in action before both players were lost early last season.

The travelling will be a real challenge once again this year but hey, this is what Wesley knows.  I believe we will have a couple 1A and 1AA transfers this year on the roster.  I don't have names though, but the quality will be right up there again this year.  Until the roster gets finalized, I don't know much more than that as I haven't been able to attend the practices.

Wesley usually allows players to remain on the team if they are fully participating, so there is no culling of players.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 20, 2011, 11:25:23 PM
NedM

Usually you'll see some attrition the first few days of camp and then more when some players realize they are not going to play.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on August 25, 2011, 09:47:42 PM
Our home opener for friday pushed back to Monday night because of Irene,,we have a semi evacuation on the Island this weekend.But It will be my first game on Monday Night Football !!will ESPN be here??? ::) :o ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 25, 2011, 09:49:21 PM
I just got back from the Wesley-Widener scrimmage.  Unofficial score was 44-7 Wesley (I believe, as the board wasn't showing points).  Wesley did pretty well, although there are the usual cobwebs this time of year.  It was great to see McSweeney in action.  His scrambling was top notch as usual.  Sottilaire left off where he ended last year and played well.  A freshman played that has a lot of promise (I don't know his name).  He scored an impressive drilled pass into the endzone during the scrimmage.  A lot of new faces with some new big guys on both sides of the ball.  As they continue to get assimilated into the program, I think Wesley will be ready to face up to the purple twins once again this year.

-Ski



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 26, 2011, 12:07:34 AM
beenhit2hard

be safe down there!!!  da nana danana live to you fromthe eastern shore!!!LOL 

will we see you opening day coach?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on August 26, 2011, 04:14:44 PM
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 27, 2011, 10:47:34 AM
thanks for the report ski.  be safe in the dover area as it looks like plenty of rain, up to 10 inches will fall in the next couple of days.  good thing wesley has the turf field, should be ready to go next saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 27, 2011, 02:50:47 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 27, 2011, 10:47:34 AM
thanks for the report ski.  be safe in the dover area as it looks like plenty of rain, up to 10 inches will fall in the next couple of days.  good thing wesley has the turf field, should be ready to go next saturday.

Thanks!  The storm will be right on top of us tonight.  Should get quite interesting.  Wesley cancelled classes for Monday.  We'll know by tomorrow how everything turned out.  Wish us luck.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on August 27, 2011, 03:31:36 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 26, 2011, 12:07:34 AM
beenhit2hard

be safe down there!!!  da nana danana live to you fromthe eastern shore!!!LOL 

will we see you opening day coach?

We may be in Salisbury,we have a player at the apprentice school and if he travels we will go to see him
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 29, 2011, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on August 27, 2011, 03:31:36 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 26, 2011, 12:07:34 AM
beenhit2hard

be safe down there!!!  da nana danana live to you fromthe eastern shore!!!LOL 

will we see you opening day coach?

We may be in Salisbury,we have a player at the apprentice school and if he travels we will go to see him

As of today I'd like your chances of being in Salisbury. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on August 31, 2011, 09:28:14 AM
Teamski, what's the deal with Sottilaire?  No longer showing on your roster (per @d3football tweet) and his bio info has been removed from your athletic site.  Was he so bummed at not being the starter anymore that he quit the team?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on August 31, 2011, 10:49:38 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 31, 2011, 09:28:14 AM
Teamski, what's the deal with Sottilaire?  No longer showing on your roster (per @d3football tweet) and his bio info has been removed from your athletic site.  Was he so bummed at not being the starter anymore that he quit the team?

He's going to sit out this year, so he can play next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on August 31, 2011, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: Conrad on August 31, 2011, 10:49:38 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 31, 2011, 09:28:14 AM
Teamski, what's the deal with Sottilaire?  No longer showing on your roster (per @d3football tweet) and his bio info has been removed from your athletic site.  Was he so bummed at not being the starter anymore that he quit the team?

He's going to sit out this year, so he can play next year.

Glad he is going to be able to stick around and play next year.  +1 for the update.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on August 31, 2011, 02:14:48 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 31, 2011, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: Conrad on August 31, 2011, 10:49:38 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 31, 2011, 09:28:14 AM
Teamski, what's the deal with Sottilaire?  No longer showing on your roster (per @d3football tweet) and his bio info has been removed from your athletic site.  Was he so bummed at not being the starter anymore that he quit the team?

He's going to sit out this year, so he can play next year.

Glad he is going to be able to stick around and play next year.  +1 for the update.   :)

Well, I suggested maybe he should transfer to Trinity, but he said it was too far away.  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 31, 2011, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 31, 2011, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: Conrad on August 31, 2011, 10:49:38 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 31, 2011, 09:28:14 AM
Teamski, what's the deal with Sottilaire?  No longer showing on your roster (per @d3football tweet) and his bio info has been removed from your athletic site.  Was he so bummed at not being the starter anymore that he quit the team?

He's going to sit out this year, so he can play next year.

Glad he is going to be able to stick around and play next year.  +1 for the update.   :)

I concur!  It will be nice to have a vet return once again to the position.  A smart decision indeed!   Thanks for the intel. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 01, 2011, 05:49:03 PM
Who is going to the Wesley game this Saturday?  I'll be there of course.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2011, 09:26:27 PM
I will be there ... Same  spot..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 02, 2011, 10:26:57 PM
think i am going, still deciding on a 1 hour drive to wesley or a 4 hour drive to bridgewater to hang with stone station.  not as much fun at wesley since all my tailgating is gone.  dont know anyone there so i have to decide where to go.  dont think this game will be that close, surprised that some on triple take believe otherwise.  etbu gives up points, not a good thing against wesley and they will have trouble scoring.  thinking 40 something to 10 something.  defense will likely be tops again this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 02, 2011, 10:54:22 PM
WESLEYDAD 1200 START TOMORROW
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 03, 2011, 01:10:47 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 02, 2011, 10:26:57 PM
thinking 40 something to 10 something.

Ahh, now, see? In order to be "surprisingly close" all it has to be is closer than this prediction. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 03, 2011, 09:41:46 AM
Woohooo!!!!!! first game of the season! cant make it down but looking forward to hearing it. Safe trip to all those going down to Dover. Shane McSweeny back in action will also be exciting to see. Obviously gives the Wolverines an exciting option out of the backfield once again.

Go Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 03, 2011, 01:24:41 PM
Having trouble getting the stream from WDEL.

ETBU led 7-0 in the first quarter, but Wesley has come back with 2 TD's to lead 14-7.

ETBU is my strong #5 team in the ASC.  (My ranking has UMHB, HSU, McM, Louisiana College and ETBU.  I only put McMurry 3rd because we have not beaten UMHB or HSU.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 03, 2011, 02:06:03 PM
Well so far not exactly domination by wesley. ETBU is shooting themselves in the foot cant do that against a team like the Wolverines, and Wesley is making plays when they need to.... McSweeny looks to be back.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 03, 2011, 04:03:05 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 03, 2011, 02:06:03 PM
Well so far not exactly domination by wesley. ETBU is shooting themselves in the foot cant do that against a team like the Wolverines, and Wesley is making plays when they need to.... McSweeny looks to be back.

It was a slow start for sure but Wesley needs games like these to refocus the players.  ETBU came into the game ready to play.  Their players were more impressive than I thought their record showed.  They were physical and quick on both sides of the ball from the get-go.  Sed Harris, the QB was pretty impressive.  He is definitely a Michael Vick type that can run with the ball with a hell of a lot of speed.  And also like Vick, he made critical mistakes at key times: 4 picks.  A player like that has amazing talent, but then squanders it by holding onto the ball for way too long, trying to make a play on his own.

  The defense held when it had to even though they did give up yards to quite a few screens and outside runs.  However, they did make some really good adjustments and keyed on Harris to limit his play abilities going into the second half and Wesley helmets started to show up in midst of the ETBU screen blocking scheme.

I think ETBU will have a good season.  If they can limit their penalties (between the teams, there was over 200 yards of penalties!!!) they have the talent to challenge a lot of the other Texas teams they meet.

McAndrew took some real hits today, some of the hardest I have seen so far.  One ear hole shot was heard for blocks, yet he got back up and was ready to play after the referees marked off the resulting flag.  The game was one of many hard hits!!

So, onto Kean next week.  It's a lethargic start, but I know that with the additions Wesley got over the summer it takes some time to synchronize everybody.  More to follow!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 03, 2011, 04:11:58 PM
Thanks for the comments on ETBU.  Because of the isolation of the ASC, the rest of the country doesn't know the depth of the ASC.

ETBU was the #6 pick in the pre-season ASC poll.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 03, 2011, 05:23:51 PM
Pretty solid effort by Huntingdon today with a 35-7 win over Maryville. I was worried about the inexperienced cornerbacks but they did a good job. I also thought the D-line did a good job keeping pressure on the QB which helped.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on September 03, 2011, 05:34:51 PM
Teamski summed up the Wesley game quite well.

My biggest disappointment had nothing to do with the team but with some of the Wesley fans. As is my habit I sat on the visitors side for the first half and some buffoons kept heckling the ETBU team and their fans. Finally were told to go to the Wesley side by security. One Einstein was woofing at #44 of EBTU who was on the bench with a knee injury. A lot of class - all of it third.

I suppose this is not unique to Wesley but it certainly takes away some of the enjoyment of the games.

Ned
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 03, 2011, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: NedM on September 03, 2011, 05:34:51 PM
Teamski summed up the Wesley game quite well.

My biggest disappointment had nothing to do with the team but with some of the Wesley fans. As is my habit I sat on the visitors side for the first half and some buffoons kept heckling the ETBU team and their fans. Finally were told to go to the Wesley side by security. One Einstein was woofing at #44 of EBTU who was on the bench with a knee injury. A lot of class - all of it third.

I suppose this is not unique to Wesley but it certainly takes away some of the enjoyment of the games.

Ned

Quite unfortunate for sure. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 03, 2011, 10:58:32 PM
 There was a good sized crowd of students under the score board and they were also a little boisterous. I was actually surprised at the siz e of the crowd today with the holiday weekend..  More students must have stayed at school this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 03, 2011, 11:01:34 PM
Ralph

ETBU has some big kids on both lines. They may be as big as any that have faced Wesley over the years
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 03, 2011, 11:26:50 PM
did not see the game, made the trip to bridgewater to see some old friends that i wont get to see until the stagg bowl and today was the only day that worked into the schedule.  after looking at the stats the game looks like it was much closer than the score.  seems like etbu figured out that wesley will attack and took advantage of that with short passes, less than 10 yards per completion.  with ski's recap it seems like the qb was elusive.  the stats also look like wesley's o struggled a little bit, taking away the int return for td, score only 27.  over 200 penalty yards for both teams is almost typical for wesley early in the year.  were they aggressive penalties or stupid ones?  will be making the trip next week to kean, who should be a tough test again.  it is kean's first game so wesley should have the advantage playing today.  good test in week one, will as ski said, hopefully focus the team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 04, 2011, 06:39:14 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 03, 2011, 11:26:50 PM
did not see the game, made the trip to bridgewater to see some old friends that i wont get to see until the stagg bowl and today was the only day that worked into the schedule.  after looking at the stats the game looks like it was much closer than the score.  seems like etbu figured out that wesley will attack and took advantage of that with short passes, less than 10 yards per completion.  with ski's recap it seems like the qb was elusive.  the stats also look like wesley's o struggled a little bit, taking away the int return for td, score only 27.  over 200 penalty yards for both teams is almost typical for wesley early in the year.  were they aggressive penalties or stupid ones?  will be making the trip next week to kean, who should be a tough test again.  it is kean's first game so wesley should have the advantage playing today.  good test in week one, will as ski said, hopefully focus the team.

I think the penalties were typical first-game type.  Reading the box, I was surprised to see that Wesley had as many penalties as they got.  It certainly didn't seem like that many during the game.  ETBU got repeated personal fouls and on one occasion had three consecutive illegal motion calls (if I recall correctly).  Over exuberance more than anything.

If you look at previous years' records, Wesley did about par for the first game (some games were quite a bit closer), so the prospects for a great year are bright.  And, you KNOW that Coach Drass, Coach Knapp and crew will be taking a lot of notes from this game!   We'll see you at Kean.

-Ski   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 04, 2011, 08:24:36 AM
ski, thanks for the insight on the penalties.  wesley has been known to lose it a little sometimes so i am glad that was not it.  also true, they have never come out of the gate blowing people out so this is the norm.  sounds like they will not likely see a qb like the one yesterday for the rest of the season.  i would have to give etbu coaches credit if the game plan was to take advantage of wesley's aggressive d.  they have always had trouble covering screens.  will see you at kean.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 04, 2011, 10:11:30 AM
ski and pa wesley, trying to get an idea of the game from the stats.  seems like wesley played on a short field most of the day, longest td drive was 55 yards.  with that in mind, did they struggle running the ball, the rushing stats are not good?  also, mcsweeney comp % near 50 is also low for him, did the receivers have trouble getting open?  dont recognize most of the running backs and receivers so it looks like someone is going to have to step up this year if the offense is to improve, cant rely on mcsweeney running all over the place all day.  will be interested to see them in person saturday against kean, should be a good test. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 04, 2011, 11:38:45 AM
Wesleydad
   ETBU was very big.May have been the biggest lines both side of the ball that Wesley has seen . McSweeney was under a lot of pressuse all day . INT was receiver error. Ran wrong route. Wesley had no game film on ETBU and they have a new D co-ordinater which gave them a  little edge .Mc Sweeney ran well and threw well. The officiating was horrible. Both ways. They made calls but had no idea whta yardage or spot to put the ball.
  ETBU 's QB is very talented . He has a good arm and is a very good runner  They have good speed. Wesley picks were made on very good defensive plays
Once Wesley took away the little release pass the D took a little more control. Wesley left 7 points on the field with a blocked FG and a missed FG and PAT. They did not punt until the later stages of the third quarter.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 04, 2011, 01:25:48 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 04, 2011, 11:38:45 AM
Wesleydad
   ETBU was very big.May have been the biggest lines both side of the ball that Wesley has seen . McSweeney was under a lot of pressuse all day . INT was receiver error. Ran wrong route. Wesley had no game film on ETBU and they have a new D co-ordinater which gave them a  little edge .Mc Sweeney ran well and threw well. The officiating was horrible. Both ways. They made calls but had no idea whta yardage or spot to put the ball.
  ETBU 's QB is very talented . He has a good arm and is a very good runner  They have good speed. Wesley picks were made on very good defensive plays
Once Wesley took away the little release pass the D took a little more control. Wesley left 7 points on the field with a blocked FG and a missed FG and PAT. They did not punt until the later stages of the third quarter.

I chuckled when the officials marched off yardage of an pass interference when defensive holding was the actual call.  I was about to yell that out to them, but the coaches got them going in the right direction.  Remember, it is their first regular season game as well.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: TxFight on September 04, 2011, 03:27:10 PM
Wesley has a very solid football team.  As an ETBU fan it was tough to watch us come so close so many times and then shoot ourselves in the foot.  It seemed like every drive we would move the ball across midfield and then stall in the redzone.  ETBU defense played very well, and the 34-10 score is not indicative of how competitive and close the game was.  From ETBU's standpoint, this was actually a good result for us without actually getting the W, because A) they proved to themselves (and i think Wesley will agree) that they deserved to be on the same field as them and that they can play against the best teams in the nation and B) having said that it is obvious that there are still things that ETBU needs to work on to get over the hump.  I fully expect to see Wesley in the regional championship game and I wouldn't be surprised if ETBU puts it all together to see them back there as well.  Good luck Wolverines the rest of the way!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 04, 2011, 09:47:52 PM
ski

They marched off the same penalty 4 times!!!! It  drives me nuts seeing the BJ telling the other refs the rules!! He did throw his flag the furthest and then again he WAS able to throw his   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 07, 2011, 12:33:55 AM
Well, I'm getting pumped up for the Kean game.  It should be a good one!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on September 08, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 07, 2011, 12:33:55 AM
Well, I'm getting pumped up for the Kean game.  It should be a good one!

-Ski

Do you expect a "real" close one with Kean? :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 10, 2011, 08:00:21 AM
will be heading out to get my first glimpse of wesley this season.  I am not sure what kean has returning so i do not know what to expect from them.  will be looking to see if wesley can generate a non qb running game to complement mcsweeney.  could be a good game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 10, 2011, 03:37:26 PM
Wow! This is painful to watch.......seems like no one can execute at all.  :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 10, 2011, 07:17:25 PM
what i saw today is a good team who got beat because they made too many mistakes.  wesley is not as good as they have been the last couple of years and because of that they lost today.  the defense gives up too many yards against the pass.  i was expecting to see a dominating defense, but only saw a strong run defense, an ok pass rush that had trouble containing the kean qb (only 1 sack - mays getting hurt didnt help), and a weak coverage unit.  the offense seems to be disjointed, some drives they looked like they could do what they wanted, but on others they were totally lethargic.  mcsweeney throws for over 300 and the team rushes for more than 100, you expect more than 28 points.  wondered why bandon wright doesnt get more of the carries, runs hard all the time.  finally, the special teams are horrible right now.  if they dont scrap the spread punt formation after today i will be surprised, the players were all over the punter.  another missed extra point, the kickoff coverage was not like it usually is, 2 offsides by the player next to the kicker is unacceptable.  muffed punt returns were also costly.  bottom line is this team has to improve a lot before they can even be mentioned in the national title discussion from what i saw today.  with their schedule, they need to win out in the d3 games to have a shot at the playoffs.  they have lost early before and came back to be one of the best teams in the country, hopefully they will do it again this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 10, 2011, 09:05:16 PM
Not a happy day in Hawk-land. I'm pretty certain the 21-2 lead in the 3rd is the biggest lead we have ever blown. Giving up 300+ yds rushing is terrible and most of that was in the 2nd half I'm sure. I just keep hanging on that last play of regulation. BSC scores to make it 29-28 and I'm wondering why so many of their people are running off the sideline to the endzone as they are still down a point. I was happy to see the flag for excessive celebration and quickly started calculating, back them up 15 yds and the extra-point becomes a 35 yd field goal attempt, which is basically the same kick they had missed a few minutes earlier, and was starting to feel pretty confident until we saw another flag thrown which ended up being an off-setting unsportsmanlike which let them kick from the regular spot. Of course none of these things matter if we don't play so lousy for most of the second half. Did I ever mention how much I hate losing to BSC?  >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 10, 2011, 09:30:06 PM
  As Good as McSweeney was today , the timing routes just aren't there. I think it's more the inexperience of the receivers thanm Mc Sweeney's throws. The kicking isn't going so well. Hoepfully they get things squared away soon.  They may already be ut of the playoff picture. need a lot of teams to lose some games
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 11, 2011, 06:36:37 PM
find it funny that i lost karma for my post about the wesley game.  some of you are a joke as far as being honest goes.  keep dinging me for karma.  if you dont agree with me have the guts to make your points to prove me wrong.  if not keep hiding in the weeds afraid to make a point.  i am all for a good conversation, tough to do when no one else chimes in.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2011, 06:42:43 PM
For what it's worth, you're at even karma for the past 24 hours -- plus 2 and minus 2.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2011, 06:43:50 PM
Hah -- I chuckle because both minuses were from UWW fans.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 11, 2011, 06:47:32 PM
They are always so friendly out there to Wesley. You know we love you here Gene.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 11, 2011, 07:00:00 PM
thanks pat, i know that i may be a little opionated, or maybe a lot, but i do use facts to back up my point.  why would uwww peeps ding me, maybe mad because i thought mount would win last year.  plus, until i get an invite to have a mexican breakfast with uwww fans, i will cheer for my friends from mount.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dahlby on September 11, 2011, 07:16:29 PM
wesleydad,

Come out to California and I will treat you to some REAL Mexican food!
I grew up in the midwest, and trust me, it is not the same back there.
Now, if you are talking Scandinavian, German and the like........ well, that is a different story.

I need some good  lefse!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 11, 2011, 07:51:33 PM
  Yesterday was almost the perfect storm for Kean... 2 punt blocks, 1 for a td . a bad bounce on a short punt a fumble inside the ten and NJAC officials!!! Uncle Frank must lost his voice yelling at them !!  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 11, 2011, 08:00:04 PM
dahlby, if i ever find my way out there for a game i will look you up.

pawesley, i left my comments out about the refs because i did not want to sound like making excuses.  the punt was a mistake by the wesley returner, tried to field it after a bounce and hesitated before the hit, should have left it alone.  the refs failed to signal who recovered the first 2 fumbles of the game, the punt was big since it went across the line of scrimmage and was touched be a kean player.  i didnt agree with the pass interference call that gave kean the ball back for the winning td.  there is no doubt in my mind that wesley wins 9 out of 10, just lost this one.  there is a definite drop off on the d side in pass coverage and the offense needs to have an identity, too many running backs and too many receivers.  special teams is bad on all fronts and the spread punt formation has to go.  i expect them to win most of their games left, but not sure if that is enough to get in playoffs.  5 - 1 may not get it, but they will certainly be one of the 32 best teams by the end of the season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 11, 2011, 08:03:35 PM
forgot to mention unlce frank.  yes he was rather vocal towards the refs.  also, must have an injury since he does jumping jacks instead of push ups when they score.  i am not sure when i will make dover since we are hitting the ren faire on 10/1 and chris gets married on 10/15.  at the least i will be there for the salisbury game or huntington.  hope all is well with the family.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 11, 2011, 08:03:54 PM
wesleydad

Charleston game is going to be tough!!! Husson might be 70-0
Wesley just had to many things go wrong and the last fumble was a killer
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 11, 2011, 08:05:58 PM
Uncle Frank had both rotator cuffs  operated on!!! He is out of push-ups for a while   :D  I have only had all my strength  back in mine teh last few months.. was almost two years
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on September 11, 2011, 08:52:53 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 11, 2011, 07:51:33 PM
  Yesterday was almost the perfect storm for Kean... 2 punt blocks, 1 for a td . a bad bounce on a short punt a fumble inside the ten and NJAC officials!!! Uncle Frank must lost his voice yelling at them !!  ;D

Is guess Uncle Frank still coming to the games. He's a real fan. When my daughter was at Weasley for 1 1/2 years she was friends with Visconti and a couple of other players.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 11, 2011, 08:59:25 PM
Still wondering about the off-setting penalties on the final play of regulation, I finally got around to watching the play on the webcast archivehttp://www.teamline.cc/archive_watch?teamcode=2588&id=655154 (http://www.teamline.cc/archive_watch?teamcode=2588&id=655154). The play begins at 117:09. The first flag was thrown by an official running across the endzone from the BSC side(looks like the Side Judge). This one had to be the celebration penalty unless he managed to see an HC player do something worthy of unsportmanlike conduct in the middle of all those BSC players and coach in the endzone. The second flag was much later as the extra people were getting off the field and both teams' remaining players were starting to huddle and most of the officials were together near HC's huddle talking, another official standing near the hash-marks(Line Judge?) on BSC's side, much closer to BSC's huddle than HC's takes his flag out and drops it and walks over to talk to the Referee. Either the first flag was on HC and it took a really long time to throw a second flag for the celebration, or the first flag was for the celebration and the second flag was some imaginary call on HC as the guy was no where near any HC players to have heard anything that might have been being said. The whole thing just looks fishy as I can't imagine what the actual call was. I never see any HC player DO anything to warrant a call and neither official was in position to HEAR anyone say anything that other officals wouldn't have also heard/called.
*Just noticed something else, before the second flag is thrown, an HC player talks to the Ref then walks toward our sideline clapping so the first flag had to have been the celebration penalty and makes the second flag really suspicious.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 12, 2011, 12:51:50 PM
Quotespecial teams is bad on all fronts and the spread punt formation has to go.

OMG - I could not agree more!  That spread formation is asking for trouble.  Been a "lurker" here for awhile, but followed Wesley since around 2000.  Very disappointed in the secondary this year.  I know we've been spoiled by having exceptional athletes the past few years, but these guys just aren't getting it done.  The one bright spot is having McSweeney & McAndrew back - glad to see them healthy.  I'm also really liking that little #86 wide receiver - Berili I think?  He really stepped up the last game of last year and has done well so far this year.  Obviously he won't be winning any jump balls given his size, but he fights for the ball and seems to run good patterns.  Hope he gets a little more action.  Hope to see some improvements after the off week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 12, 2011, 07:42:53 PM
welcome de wesleyfan, will be nice to have another voice on here if you keep posting.  yes, 86 made a nice catch on the td pass.  the break better help and then the trip to maine will at least do the egos good or it better, they may score 70 as pawesley said.  not sure in the end if that will be good.  the drop to 15 in the rankings is fair, now time to start the climb back up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 13, 2011, 04:40:00 PM
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20110913/SPORTS0407/109130321/Huntingdon-Faulkner-rivalry-near-an-end (http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20110913/SPORTS0407/109130321/Huntingdon-Faulkner-rivalry-near-an-end)
Looks like this week is the end of the Huntingdon-Faulkner rivalry for the foreseeable future. Hopefully we can win this last one and keep the trophy on our side of town. It's been a fun series and I hate to see it end. I had already heard a rumor that Maryville wants to stop playing us when the current contract runs out next season so it seems that filling the schedule is about to get even more difficult.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 14, 2011, 12:53:34 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 13, 2011, 04:40:00 PM
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20110913/SPORTS0407/109130321/Huntingdon-Faulkner-rivalry-near-an-end (http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20110913/SPORTS0407/109130321/Huntingdon-Faulkner-rivalry-near-an-end)
Looks like this week is the end of the Huntingdon-Faulkner rivalry for the foreseeable future. Hopefully we can win this last one and keep the trophy on our side of town. It's been a fun series and I hate to see it end. I had already heard a rumor that Maryville wants to stop playing us when the current contract runs out next season so it seems that filling the schedule is about to get even more difficult.

Ahh, yes.  The life of an independent.  :(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: emma17 on September 14, 2011, 01:27:46 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 11, 2011, 06:36:37 PM
find it funny that i lost karma for my post about the wesley game.  some of you are a joke as far as being honest goes.  keep dinging me for karma.  if you dont agree with me have the guts to make your points to prove me wrong.  if not keep hiding in the weeds afraid to make a point.  i am all for a good conversation, tough to do when no one else chimes in.

+K to help Wesleydad.  Not sure what you did to deserve a couple dings, but I always appreciated your zeal for discussion.
Good luck the rest of the way.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 14, 2011, 04:57:16 PM
you got another +1 from Va. Wesleydad -- you're straightforward and honest views are always appreciated.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 14, 2011, 07:28:57 PM
thanks for the karma guys.  nnasid, always appreciated your zeal for the game and your team.  also will not forget how you helped us wesley folk out when we traveled to newport news with our tailgating area.  have the utmost respect for the guys that play for your team. +1 back to you.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 17, 2011, 08:35:19 PM
Great effort by Huntingdon today, 48-41 over Faulkner. By far the best team Faulkner has put together with a very good QB. They were able to hurt our defense with a lot of long passes in the first half and into the third qtr but our defense made some adjustments and stepped up to shut them out the rest of the way. Helped our offense to work through some turnover issues and come back and get the winning score in the final minute. We either were in better shape, had more depth or both as Faulkner was worn down as it got into the fourth qtr and our d-line was able to start handling their big o-line much easier. Neal Posey is growing into a very solid QB. Haven't seen a box score yet but if I remember correctly he ended up with 6 TD passes today. Can't wait to see how many yards he wound up with. Hampden-Sydney coming to town next week. We definitely have to play our best and cutout the turnovers if we are going to have a chance in that one.

Go Hawks!!

Posey 31 of 43, 439 yds, 6 TDs, 0 ints.
Trevor Manuel 22 carries, 106 yds, 1 TD(3rd 100 yd game of season)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 17, 2011, 10:00:53 PM
HSC is a great game for Huntingdon.  I think that HSC will be regionally ranked, so this game is a critical game for Pool B consideration.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 17, 2011, 10:16:57 PM
3 games in 3 weeks and 6 teams, bridgewater, st. vincent, wesley, kean, del val, and leb val.  what have i seen.  the best team is wesley if they show up and play like they can.  kean and del val will beat most teams they play, evidence kean beats cortland today.  bridgewater has a lot of improving to do to compete with the top teams in d3 and leb val made too many mistakes to win today.  wesley has to win out to get in, beat salisbury who i believe will win the e8, and there is no doubt they should be in, but with only 6 d3 games they will need help.  good thing that pool b is small.  they are surely a top 32 team, but as we have seen in years past, that does not mean they get in.  wondering if anyone else has seen 6 teams in 3 weeks, maybe i am crazy, but after next week it will be 8, plan on heading to rowan for the cortland game.  wesley needs to score plenty next week to erase the taste of the lose to kean.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on September 18, 2011, 01:12:29 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 17, 2011, 10:16:57 PM
3 games in 3 weeks and 6 teams, bridgewater, st. vincent, wesley, kean, del val, and leb val.  what have i seen.  the best team is wesley if they show up and play like they can.  kean and del val will beat most teams they play, evidence kean beats cortland today.  bridgewater has a lot of improving to do to compete with the top teams in d3 and leb val made too many mistakes to win today.  wesley has to win out to get in, beat salisbury who i believe will win the e8, and there is no doubt they should be in, but with only 6 d3 games they will need help.  good thing that pool b is small.  they are surely a top 32 team, but as we have seen in years past, that does not mean they get in.  wondering if anyone else has seen 6 teams in 3 weeks, maybe i am crazy, but after next week it will be 8, plan on heading to rowan for the cortland game.  wesley needs to score plenty next week to erase the taste of the lose to kean.

Wesleydad,

We're both crazy.  I drove 550 miles today to watch Austin College vs SWAG and then most of UMHB vs McMurry.  Already seen TLU vs Austin College first week and UMHB vs La Crosse the second week.  The way I feel right now I am getting too old for this!  ;) :D  By the way Mrs Roocru and my son and his wife are planning to come to the Stagg Bowl again this year.  The grandson will be close to celebrating his first birthday!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 18, 2011, 08:34:31 AM
roocru, good to hear from you.  yea, the driving to catch a good game is fun, but sometimes tiring.  will be nice to see the family and the new addition again at the stagg.  looks like we may be watching the same teams again since it looks like the 2 we thought had the best chance have dropped off a little.  was the struggle with mcmurray a surprise?  28 - 7 to holding on is not good.  sounds like what wesley did with kean, except wesley didnt hold on for the win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on September 18, 2011, 02:17:04 PM
Hawks88
Great to see yall yesterday, thanks for the hotdogs.............. great game

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/09/huntingdon_hawks_score_with_37.html

Lord willing i will see yall again next week

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 18, 2011, 05:33:34 PM
DG, good to see you yesterday. You should have rode over to LaGrange for the JV game today. Fun game, had to fight through some nice home cooking in the fourth and hit a hail-mary as time expired to win 33-27. We have some good looking young guys coming up.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on September 19, 2011, 11:09:57 PM
Hawks
i pray you are well
i spoke to 'the boy', he finished cutting the jv game and called to say it was just as you described at the end of the jv

i have to work sat am, but isf i can get all done we might ride down and watch the game
this will be a tough, tough one, as HSC is as good as thier press clippings
keep the faith and Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: hchawks on September 22, 2011, 02:36:35 PM
D3football.com QB's of the week square off in Travis Lane (HSC-Week 2) and Neal Posey (HC-Week 3) as the #22 Hampden-Sydney Tigers (3-0) come to Montgomery, AL to face the Hawks of Huntingdon College (2-1).

Prediction:  High scoring shootout between two of the nation's highest passing offenses in Huntingdon and Hampden-Sydney.  Both of these teams are ranked low in passing defense so be ready to see footballs fly.  Team with the fewest turnovers will take it to the house.

Watch/Listen live at  http://www.teamline.cc/sportpage?teamcode=2588&eventcode=20

Broadcast begins 12:40 CST
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 22, 2011, 10:57:32 PM
Finally, we are so close to game day. Hopefully this Saturday Wesley can figure out who their recievers are and get a nice balanced attack going. That will be crucial going forward, especially with Charleston Southern the week after this one. Obviously its also an opportunity for the defense to tighten some things up. Hopefully the bye week has helped Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 22, 2011, 11:26:30 PM
On October 1st, the Wesley at Charleston Southern game might be the 2nd win for a D-III school over a Division 1 FCS team!

LazIndex has Charleston Southern as a slight favorite.

Bornpowerindex has Wesley.

Massey Ratings gives it Charleston Southern by home field advantage.

Atomic Football predicts a Wesley win 31 -29 with 44% chance for a home win.

These numbers will be re-indexed next week. Let's watch this.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 23, 2011, 01:29:07 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 22, 2011, 11:26:30 PM
On October 1st, the Wesley at Charleston Southern game might be the 2nd win for a D-III school over a Division 1 FCS team!


Again, I must remind -- this would not be the second win over an FCS team. It would be the second win over an FCS scholarship team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 23, 2011, 06:05:41 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 23, 2011, 01:29:07 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 22, 2011, 11:26:30 PM
On October 1st, the Wesley at Charleston Southern game might be the 2nd win for a D-III school over a Division 1 FCS team this season!


Again, I must remind -- this would not be the second win over an FCS team. It would be the second win over an FCS scholarship team.

My bad!  Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on September 23, 2011, 03:23:50 PM
wesleydad,

Looks like your Stagg Bowl party moves to Friday night prime time! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on September 23, 2011, 06:28:30 PM
Hawks88
Lord willing we will see yall tomorrow

hchawks
We will try to (as able) listen to the superb play-by-play and colr of the Hawks broadcast.  ;)

Ever one on the board be safe to and from games, be safe
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 23, 2011, 11:32:24 PM
raider68, that just means that i leave thursday afternoon and arrive thursday evening.  get up real early and start to have a great time, about 12 hours of it with some of the greatest people i have ever met.  then i will watch a football game, get some sleep and be home saturday evening instead of sunday evening.  i like the time change, but will have to see what my friends at stone station plan.  it will be fun no matter what, hope to see you there.  maybe not thrilled about a purple repeat, but dont see much out there that will change that so far this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 24, 2011, 06:49:32 AM
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20110924/SPORTS02/109240358/Game-preview-Hampden-Sydney-Huntingdon (http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20110924/SPORTS02/109240358/Game-preview-Hampden-Sydney-Huntingdon)
Huntingdon vs. Hampden-Sydney game preview. I wondered why we had a running back wearing #92 last week. I hate that I forgot/didn't realize the significance of the number until reading this. Hopefully we can have good game today. Good luck and be safe to everyone traveling today.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 24, 2011, 08:17:57 PM
Huntingdon gets its first ever win over a ranked team today 34-27 over Hampden-Sydney. The first half was one of the best halves of football our offense has ever played. Second half, not so much. I can't say enough about how well the defense performed all day, especially considering how long they were on the field. I'm very proud of the whole group for doing what it took to get a big win over a very good opponent. Just need to take care of business this next week and not have a let down before Wittenberg comes to town in two weeks.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on September 24, 2011, 10:15:17 PM
Hawks88
Good to see yall, Great game, the HSC folk were a real real nice, classy group. HSC offense looked flat, and our defense looked better than in 2 yrs (to me at least)

I hate i missed yalls Brauts (our loss). I won't be able to get to Fl. Yall going to get there ?

have a great week and keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 25, 2011, 10:46:41 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 24, 2011, 10:15:17 PM
Hawks88
Good to see yall, Great game, the HSC folk were a real real nice, classy group. HSC offense looked flat, and our defense looked better than in 2 yrs (to me at least)

I hate i missed yalls Brauts (our loss). I won't be able to get to Fl. Yall going to get there ?

have a great week and keep the faith
DGP,
Yep, that was a great game yesterday. I have no voice today.
Not going to FL this week. With the team making 3 long trips this year, we can really only make one of them so we decided to make the San Antonio trip since we've never been there before.
Trying to decide if I want to go see the JV game today vs Birmingham Southern.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 25, 2011, 12:40:05 PM
We got back at 4AM from the Hussan game.  It was not a pretty game, but I will tell you that I was really  impressed by Hussan's attitude.  Here is a team that knows that they will not be competitive week in and week out, but they were there to play nonetheless.  Every time Wesley scored, all I heard was " that's alright, we'll get them next time" on the sidelines.  There was no blame, no excuses; there were no boobirds in the crowds but supportive calls to the team.  They really showed class in my book.  There were no fights, no exchanges of words.  The coach didn't berate his players, or anything like that.  This is what the game is all about.  The Wesley players sensed this as well, and were true gentlemen on the field.   I left Hussan really touched by a team in Maine that, like many other D3 schools, tries their best each week and won't be featured anywhere on the board.  But they had heart.

Wesley heads to one of their signature challenges this year at CSU next Saturday.  That will be an experience!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 25, 2011, 08:17:49 PM
Ski

That game is one of the reasons Wesley has trouble getting teams to play...I listened and as has been in the past Husson was just way over matched. Probably won't be a rematch in Dover next year!!  But you have to hand it to them!! They scheduled this year!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 25, 2011, 08:23:41 PM
ski, must have been a fun bus trip.  glad to hear that wesley didnt do anything unsportsmanlike against an over matched opponent.  i will be interested to see how wesley fairs this weekend against an fcs scholarship school.  mostly i hope that they come out with no key injuries and begin to show some consistancy on defense, especially in the secondary.  they have to run the table in d3 to possibly get in, but it seems like many of the other pool b teams have already lost also.  the salisbury game will be huge this year.  eventhough the non-d3 games dont count, winning all of them cant hurt any, 9 - 1 overall will look better than 7 - 3 or 6 - 4.  i have now seen 8 teams and wesley is the best despite how bad they played against kean.  as has been said before, 32 teams get in, not necessarily the best 32.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 25, 2011, 10:07:17 PM
I think if Wesley can win vs. Charleston Southern, even though its technically not supposed to be counted come playoff time, i think will have some "leverage" as to their playoff spot. Pending of course Wesley takes care of business against their D3 opponents the rest of the way out. It should be a good one next Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on September 26, 2011, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 23, 2011, 11:32:24 PM
raider68, that just means that i leave thursday afternoon and arrive thursday evening.  get up real early and start to have a great time, about 12 hours of it with some of the greatest people i have ever met.  then i will watch a football game, get some sleep and be home saturday evening instead of sunday evening.  i like the time change, but will have to see what my friends at stone station plan.  it will be fun no matter what, hope to see you there.  maybe not thrilled about a purple repeat, but dont see much out there that will change that so far this year.

wesleydad,

Who knows, may get there this year, if the Raiders get to the Stagg! Hope all is well! How do you see Wesley for the balance of the year? :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on September 27, 2011, 09:59:51 PM
Hawks88
in case you hadnot seen this
http://www.huntingdon.edu/athleticsNewsList.aspx
have a great week, keep the faith, and Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 29, 2011, 11:02:09 PM
We will see this weekend how Wesley stacks up. Charleston Southern definitely seems beatable, no doubt. But Wesley will have to bring their A game as usual. This game will be a good indicator of what to see the rest of the way out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on September 30, 2011, 05:14:29 PM
It would be nice for Wesley to win this weekend game, be pummped, know they are gonna make the playoffs and ..well...have a bad afternoon in mid november, say nov12, between noon and 5:00pm ;)

last year when they came to Montgomery, yall were flat thie first half, and we hung with you...then the second half came. The 4 yrs i watched yall, Wesley has been big, fast, and well coached  :'(
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 01, 2011, 08:45:44 AM
no game for me this week.  will be interested to see how wesley does against scholarship charleston southern.  i think they can win, but they will have to clean up the secondary.  good luck today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 01, 2011, 09:04:02 AM
The team is pumped up and the weather down here is perfect.  We'll see at 1:30 how the ball drops.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 01, 2011, 09:44:42 AM
Your typical trap game for Huntingdon today. Road game at a first year program between two home games vs ranked opponents. Hope we take care of business, don't let anything silly happen and keep everyone healthy.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 01, 2011, 09:47:38 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 30, 2011, 05:14:29 PM
It would be nice for Wesley to win this weekend game, be pummped, know they are gonna make the playoffs and ..well...have a bad afternoon in mid november, say nov12, between noon and 5:00pm ;)

This gets my vote.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 01, 2011, 01:55:20 PM
Hawk88
it appears we are  doing what you'd hoped.. at least thus far in the 3rd
Huntingdon -41
Ava Maria - 0
Go Hawks and keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 01, 2011, 02:13:24 PM
Wesley leads 13-0 after 1 qtr
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 01, 2011, 02:27:26 PM
Huntingdon kicked the extra point
Ava Maria scored and kicke the extra point

Huntingdon 42
Ava Maria 7
keep the faith and Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 01, 2011, 04:30:55 PM
Wesley D stepped it up today and kept Charleston So. off the board on a few Wesley turnovers. Great win for the Wolverines!!
33-20
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 01, 2011, 05:46:41 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 01, 2011, 01:55:20 PM
Hawk88
it appears we are  doing what you'd hoped.. at least thus far in the 3rd
Huntingdon -41
Ava Maria - 0
Go Hawks and keep the faith
Yep, happy to see that DG. Big challenge for homecoming next week. Let's see if we can step up and have another big game.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 01, 2011, 05:59:17 PM
Go Hawks And Way to go Wesley
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 02, 2011, 02:54:46 AM
Wow! This is a fantastic win for Wesley! They played very well today. The defense came up with some huge stops (only gave up 1 TD) and Chris Mayes had his monster game!....I think they are starting to figure it out some but they of course are not all the way there. Close but still some more room for improvement.

I also this this can be a somewhat big win for D3 as a whole. Quite a bit of people forget that the competition, athleticism, and speed of a team, can be just as good at the D3 level than in D2, or the FCS, or any other level of college football. Go D3! and Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 02, 2011, 05:45:32 AM
The team returned early this morning.  What a beautiful game!  It was a pretty dominating performance throughout. 344 yards rushing.  Nice!  Wesley was pumped up for this game, more so than at any other time this season.  It was really cool to witness some history and this win was indeed, a defining moment for the season.  There was some major execution on both sides of the ball.  The offensive line really opened up some nice lanes for the running game, and Wesley stuck with what worked.  The defense kept the running quarterback options in check throughout the game.  The score was 33-13 until a last minute 4th quarter prevent defense TD by CSU brought it to 20.

The win definitely put a damper on CSU's Homecoming.  About 3400 were in attendance; the weather was perfect, sunny, low 70's and the grass was in great shape.  I don't care about CSU's record: They were big and fast, typical of a D1 FCS school, and Wesley took it to them.  The Wolverines started out with a pair of 95+ yard drives in the first quarter and it stunned the crowd.  3 turnovers in the first half kept the game close, but a solid second half put the game away. 

Wow, I have not watched such a satisfying game like that in quite a while.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 02, 2011, 09:14:42 AM
ski, another long bus trip.  certainly a nice win for the team, unfortunately it may not do much for the chances to make the playoffs since it was not a d3 game.  i was pleasantly surprised by the rushing yards.  since no receiver has really stepped up it makes sense that you use the running game until one or more receivers show the ability to get open and make a catch.  the salisbury game looks more and more interesting each week with salisbury winning in the e8 as most of us one hear figured they would.  a win over them, especially if they run the table in the e8 will look really good.  huntingdon will be a nice game to end the season.  deciding which game to go see this weekend, wesley - frostburg or cortland - montclaire.  seems my presence is being requested at the wesley homecoming tailgate by some former players so it looks like i may need to be in dover.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 02, 2011, 11:49:36 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 02, 2011, 09:14:42 AM
   seems my presence is being requested at the wesley homecoming tailgate by some former players so it looks like i may need to be in dover.

I'll see you there!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 02, 2011, 02:21:46 PM
Definitely a satisfying game. Wesley showed here for the first time this season of what it was capable of. The o-line was tremendous, the defense played well, Jahad was running very well, and I think Steve Koudossou looks like he has the potential to be a nice little speed threat at reciever. His reverse was awesome to watch, especially right off the bat like that...still a few mistake to clean up, but like ski said it was a beautiful game.

Dont think this win will have much bearing on playoff time but I believe it will have some. The Salisbury and Huntingdon games definitely will, and the Pool B spot is wide open. Familiar foe next week for Homecoming vs. Frostburg State.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 02, 2011, 02:37:49 PM
CSU postgame interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ4nTFr2EJQ

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 07, 2011, 09:26:02 PM
I am certainly excited about the game tomorrow.  It is homecoming for Wesley, so it should be a spirited game.  It is awfully nice not to have to travel by bus for 10 hours for once and for all!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on October 07, 2011, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 07, 2011, 09:26:02 PM
I am certainly excited about the game tomorrow.  It is homecoming for Wesley, so it should be a spirited game.  It is awfully nice not to have to travel by bus for 10 hours for once and for all!

-Ski

Ski,

Enjoy Homecoming on a beautiful Saturday! I will do likewise at Mount Union! :) :) +k Say hello to
wesleydad if you see him there!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 07, 2011, 10:23:20 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on October 07, 2011, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 07, 2011, 09:26:02 PM
I am certainly excited about the game tomorrow.  It is homecoming for Wesley, so it should be a spirited game.  It is awfully nice not to have to travel by bus for 10 hours for once and for all!

-Ski

Ski,

Enjoy Homecoming on a beautiful Saturday! I will do likewise at Mount Union! :) :) +k Say hello to
wesleydad if you see him there!

Will do!  It won't be long until we will be in your neck of the woods to play Walsh!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 07, 2011, 10:36:38 PM
Homecoming in Montgomery tomorrow too. Not your typical homecoming opponent though. :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 08, 2011, 08:56:04 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 07, 2011, 10:36:38 PM
Homecoming in Montgomery tomorrow too. Not your typical homecoming opponent though. :o

That will certainly be a challenge for you guys, but doable.  Good luck out there!  It is going to be a good game and one I wish I could watch.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 08, 2011, 08:58:49 AM
decided to head down to dover to get another look at wesley today.  dont expect the game to be very close but i want to see if they have improved in the secondary since the kean game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 08, 2011, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 08, 2011, 08:56:04 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 07, 2011, 10:36:38 PM
Homecoming in Montgomery tomorrow too. Not your typical homecoming opponent though. :o

That will certainly be a challenge for you guys, but doable.  Good luck out there!  It is going to be a good game and one I wish I could watch.

-Ski

Wow, that is a dominating performance by the Hawks!  Welcome to the top 25!  It sure makes your visit to Wesley later this season interesting!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 08, 2011, 05:12:57 PM
Huntingdon 38
Wittenberg 20

Got a tough trip to Texas next Saturday
one week at a time
Go Hawks and week the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 08, 2011, 07:40:51 PM
good win today.  frostburg was able to move the ball some in the first half, but wesley's d stepped up and kept them out of the endzone.  i liked what i saw from the offense today.  they used the running backs more and didnt have mcsweeney running all over the place.  his td run was something to see, avoinding the sack and breaking several tackles to score.  the special teams were much improved from the kean game.  still a little concerned about the secondary but they were better than the kean game.  nice to see a good crowd at homecoming and also nice to see some of the players that had a lot to do with putting wesley on the national map.  they were always nice guys when they played and they are still nice guys now that they are just watching.  heard that wesley will have a nice addition to the schedule next year, umhb and birmingham southern, possibly both in dover.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 08, 2011, 08:23:24 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 08, 2011, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 08, 2011, 08:56:04 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 07, 2011, 10:36:38 PM
Homecoming in Montgomery tomorrow too. Not your typical homecoming opponent though. :o

That will certainly be a challenge for you guys, but doable.  Good luck out there!  It is going to be a good game and one I wish I could watch.

-Ski

Wow, that is a dominating performance by the Hawks!  Welcome to the top 25!  It sure makes your visit to Wesley later this season interesting!

-Ski
Thanks, Ski. Awesome performance by the Hawks today. These guys are showing a lot of heart all around. Got a little nervous late in the second when we were up 14-6 with a 4th and goal at the one and we float this weird looking pass out into the flats that turned into a 100+ yd pick six and make it 14-13. We came back and broke a long TD on a screen pass on the second play then get a quick int leading to another score right before the half to make it a two touchdown lead like it should have already been. That got us the momentum back and set the stage for a strong second half. Can't wait to see a box-score so I can see what the difference in time-of-possesion was. Witt's D was on the field a lonnnng time today.
Still a tough trip to San Antonio next week and more business to take care of before we can start thinking about the Wesley game having a lot of meaning. This team is doing a great job of taking it one game at a time right now. If we can keep it up I like our chances.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 08, 2011, 08:53:43 PM
Found a box score. WOW. 104 offensive snaps for Huntingdon to 63 for Witt. Time of possesion, 39:54 to 20:04, pretty much two to one there. 635 yds total offense to 223. Not much to complain about except for 3 turnovers and 99 yds in penalties.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSC85 on October 08, 2011, 09:03:03 PM
Hawks88

Congrats on another well played game.  After seeing Whit and Hampden Sydney both play in Montgomery, how would you compare the two teams?

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 08, 2011, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: HSC85 on October 08, 2011, 09:03:03 PM
Hawks88

Congrats on another well played game.  After seeing Whit and Hampden Sydney both play in Montgomery, how would you compare the two teams?
That's a tough one. I think the main difference was that HSC was able to match up better speed wise. We were obviously able to run the ball better today but other than that if the two teams played I would probably pick whichever was the home team to win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSC85 on October 08, 2011, 11:29:02 PM
Thanks for your response.  The first half of the Huntingdon game was the worst football that HSC has played all year.  I think that the Hawks had a lot to do with that on both sides of the ball.  Playing Huntingdon will definitely benefit HSC throughout the ODAC schedule.  Huntingdon is a fine team.   Good luck during the rest of the season. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 09, 2011, 01:22:30 PM
Wesley did pretty well even with 130 yards of penalties :P.  I certainly hope that McSweeney's TD run in the second half is shown on the play of the week.  He was shaking tackles left and right.  I haven't seen anything like it for quite a while!

Well, it seems certain that Wesley's path to the playoffs go through the Salisbury and Huntington games.  I personally can't wait.  Wesley plays the Virginia University of Lynchburg this next week and then it is another long haul to Canton Ohio to meet NAIA Walsh at the Hall of Fame stadium.  It will be cool to see the NFL HOF once again......

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 09, 2011, 03:40:38 PM
Hope it's nominated.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 10, 2011, 09:47:51 AM
I hear McSweeny's run was really something. Hopefully WDEL has video of it soon!

But, on to the Virginia University of Lynchburg. I cant really find much on this school but it sounds like they are a relatively new program. Does anyone have anything on them?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on October 10, 2011, 04:13:29 PM
Figures Shane chooses the weekend I'm going away to a wedding immediately after the game to do something video worthy.

Just produced the video clip, full highlights will be up sometime after my sportscasts this evening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyNByM0eolg
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 10, 2011, 05:18:28 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 10, 2011, 09:47:51 AM
I hear McSweeny's run was really something. Hopefully WDEL has video of it soon!

But, on to the Virginia University of Lynchburg. I cant really find much on this school but it sounds like they are a relatively new program. Does anyone have anything on them?


From what I can see, they are a small school of about 350 students.  They are a first year USCAA football program with scholarship players coming from disadvantaged families.  They have played other junior colleges and club teams including Coppin State.  They don't have their own field, but play at the local Lynchburg field.  They are reputed to have some serious speed players and a 365lb lineman.  We'll see how it goes.  They have a .500 record so far with some impressive wins.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 10, 2011, 05:22:00 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on October 10, 2011, 04:13:29 PM
Figures Shane chooses the weekend I'm going away to a wedding immediately after the game to do something video worthy.

Just produced the video clip, full highlights will be up sometime after my sportscasts this evening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyNByM0eolg

Thanks for posting it!  The play was even better in person.   I hope it gets submitted for play of the week.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 11, 2011, 03:53:19 PM
Hawks88
yall still gonna make the Trinity game
i got to play farmer and move logs and hay

if yall go, stay safe, have fun, and Go Hawks
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 11, 2011, 06:39:09 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 11, 2011, 03:53:19 PM
Hawks88
yall still gonna make the Trinity game
i got to play farmer and move logs and hay

if yall go, stay safe, have fun, and Go Hawks
keep the faith
That's the plan, DGP. Flying out Thursday and doing a couple of days of the tourist/sight seeing thing before the game.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 13, 2011, 09:08:28 PM
Hawks88
yall have a safe and fun filled trip. I will try to either listen or get it off the tube. Should be a good game.
hopefully we can come out wit a good defensive effort and our offense will (hopefully) play as best they can against a great Trinity D
Go Hawks and keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 13, 2011, 09:38:07 PM
Weird airport, San Antonio. They wouldn't let the pilot just pull up to the gate. We had to sit and wait for one of the little tow truck things to pull the plane up to the gate then it took them two tries to get us up to it right. 45 minutes after landing we were finally at the gate and were able to get off the plane.  ???

Hoping for a great game by the Hawks.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2011, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 13, 2011, 09:38:07 PM
Weird airport, San Antonio. They wouldn't let the pilot just pull up to the gate. We had to sit and wait for one of the little tow truck things to pull the plane up to the gate then it took them two tries to get us up to it right. 45 minutes after landing we were finally at the gate and were able to get off the plane.  ???

Hoping for a great game by the Hawks.

Go Hawks!
I recommend you go to Mi Tierra (west of downtown south of Christus Santa Rosa Hospital) for breakfast.

I like the Huevos Rancheros!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 13, 2011, 10:28:22 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2011, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 13, 2011, 09:38:07 PM
Weird airport, San Antonio. They wouldn't let the pilot just pull up to the gate. We had to sit and wait for one of the little tow truck things to pull the plane up to the gate then it took them two tries to get us up to it right. 45 minutes after landing we were finally at the gate and were able to get off the plane.  ???

Hoping for a great game by the Hawks.

Go Hawks!
I recommend you go to Mi Tierra (west of downtown south of Christus Santa Rosa Hospital) for breakfast.

I like the Huevos Ranchero!

May have to check that out. Got any BBQ suggestions?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 15, 2011, 11:57:10 AM
Wesley and UVa-Lynchburg kickoff was moved up by UVL to noon for some reason. Contract said 1 p.m. Join us at 1150AM wdel or wdel.com.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 16, 2011, 12:47:44 AM
Just got back from the game.  The VUL offensive line was the largest group of gentlemen I have seen Wesley play!  All of them were well over 6 feet tall and over 320 pounds!  They were also pretty immobile.  Wesley's defense really did a job on VUL's running game.  So, another solid game in the books and onto Canton!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 16, 2011, 12:08:20 PM
Cant say much about this game, other than the fact I missed most of it. But it looks like a nice shutout for Wesley and onto Walsh! It'll be something to play at Fawcett Stadium, looking forward to seeing the team in action for the first time this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 16, 2011, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 16, 2011, 12:08:20 PM
Cant say much about this game, other than the fact I missed most of it. But it looks like a nice shutout for Wesley and onto Walsh! It'll be something to play at Fawcett Stadium, looking forward to seeing the team in action for the first time this year.

Looking forward to seeing you there!  Not much of a trip for you either.  Lucky!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on October 16, 2011, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 16, 2011, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 16, 2011, 12:08:20 PM
Cant say much about this game, other than the fact I missed most of it. But it looks like a nice shutout for Wesley and onto Walsh! It'll be something to play at Fawcett Stadium, looking forward to seeing the team in action for the first time this year.

Looking forward to seeing you there!  Not much of a trip for you either.  Lucky!

-Ski

Teamski,

Great football atmosphere at Fawcett stadium. It holds 22K, next to HOF. Hope Wesley fans can make it. Regarding the game, IMHO Wesley will not have a problem! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 16, 2011, 07:55:47 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on October 16, 2011, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 16, 2011, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 16, 2011, 12:08:20 PM
Cant say much about this game, other than the fact I missed most of it. But it looks like a nice shutout for Wesley and onto Walsh! It'll be something to play at Fawcett Stadium, looking forward to seeing the team in action for the first time this year.

Looking forward to seeing you there!  Not much of a trip for you either.  Lucky!

-Ski

Teamski,

Great football atmosphere at Fawcett stadium. It holds 22K, next to HOF. Hope Wesley fans can make it. Regarding the game, IMHO Wesley will not have a problem! :)

Thanks! I know the team is looking forward to seeing the HOF once again.  It's always a treat!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 16, 2011, 07:58:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 16, 2011, 12:47:44 AM
Just got back from the game.  The VUL offensive line was the largest group of gentlemen I have seen Wesley play!  All of them were well over 6 feet tall and over 320 pounds!  They were also pretty immobile.  Wesley's defense really did a job on VUL's running game.  So, another solid game in the books and onto Canton!

-Ski

Just to give you some numbers on VUL's line.....  I'm not saying they were trim, but they were big.

   OL   Fr.   6'3/345   
   OL   Jr.   6'6/325    
   OL    Jr.   6'8/335   
   OL   So.   6'7/360   
   OL   Fr.   6'7/315   
     OL   So.   6'5/365



Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 19, 2011, 12:17:35 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 16, 2011, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 16, 2011, 12:08:20 PM
Cant say much about this game, other than the fact I missed most of it. But it looks like a nice shutout for Wesley and onto Walsh! It'll be something to play at Fawcett Stadium, looking forward to seeing the team in action for the first time this year.

Looking forward to seeing you there!  Not much of a trip for you either.  Lucky!

-Ski

See you there ski! From what I have seen on STO, Wesley should handle Walsh.

Also, congrats to Leonard Stevenson on getting signed by the Reading Express in the IFL.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 22, 2011, 12:22:45 PM
Please keep Wesley's Coach Chip Knapp and his family in your prayers today. His 16 yr old son was rushed to the hospital from their motel room Thursday night. He is in a drug induced coma in a Pittsburgh Hospital.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 22, 2011, 08:10:45 PM
Nice to see Huntingdon come back with a good game after last week's disappointment. Pretty solid game all around with Webber helping out with a bunch of person foul penalties. Webber did bring in a QB in the third quarter that kinda looked like Cam Newton, had a cannon for an arm. Not sure why he didn't play the whole game as he was WAY better than the starter. Not sure we beat them if he plays the whole game.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 22, 2011, 09:47:01 PM
prayers to the knapp family.  hope all works out well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 22, 2011, 09:52:13 PM
Will lift up prayers for the knapp family.

Hawks88
great to see yall. sloppy game, but still a good win.
that 3rd QB was ( in the short time he played) the best QB i have seen us play against all year. They had some good athletes.

2 wks off then LaGrange, do not make fun or cast dispersions on any one from west ga  ;D

Lord willing we'll see yall in 2 weeks
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 23, 2011, 12:41:34 AM
Really emotionally charged day for Wesley with Chip and his family. We are all still praying, each and everyday.

The Wolverines really stepped up and got a win. The defense was great, the offense took a bit to get going but they got clicking and put it out of reach (they had to play the officials too, which didnt really help much either).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 23, 2011, 08:47:59 AM
The team got back early this morning after visiting the Knapp family at the hospital on the way home and presenting Chip and his family the game ball.  It was a touching experience to see a lobby full of concerned football players being addressed by Chip with his family standing at his side.

As can be expected, it was an extremely emotional weekend for all.  And it seems that fate intervened.  Had this happened at home, it is quite possible Ben would not be here at all as the CPR administered by Coach Az saved his life. 

Ben is as nice of a kid as you could ever expect and I certainly pray for his recovery.  So far so good!

Hats off to the entire team for persevering through daunting adversity.  Nobody was more affected than Coach Drass and yet he found a way to keep the wheels rolling.  That is what a true leader does.

therwaterboy:  It was a pleasure to see you this weekend.  Keep me up to date, would you?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 23, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
big game this week for wesley.  i have had this game circled since the schedule came out.  i have been enjoying watching salisbury run all over the E8 this season.  and Frostburg is even making a good showing with 3 wins.  this will be a tough week for the team and the coaches.  i expect them to be prepared and the players to step up and do what is necessary.  coach drass has always preached family and this will come in handy this week.  wesley knows how to defend the triple option and has been able to shut it down the last couple of years.  it seems that salisbury throws the ball a little more than before so that will be an issue to watch.  i believe wesley will be able to score so this should be a real good game.  looking forward to going to dover this weekend.  hoping to hear some good news concerning the knapp family this week also.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 23, 2011, 09:27:34 AM
It will be one hell of a game.  I agree that Wesley will be ready to deal with the triple option as par for the course.  I wouldn't worry too much about the passing game.  Wesley's secondary has really blossomed as the season unfolds.  Holding Walsh to paltry 66 yards with Howard nabbing two interceptions was pretty convincing!  Both lines are now starting to dominate which is something I am really happy to see.  If Wesley can keep mistakes at bay, they will be really tough to beat.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 23, 2011, 09:44:14 AM
ski, glad to hear about the secondary.  that has been my biggest concern since seeing the kean game.  several teams have been able to run the ball on salisbury this year so if the o line does dominate that will open things up for the passing game.  the d line will have to be huge this week.  salisbury fumbled the ball, i think 5 times yesterday, and they have fumbled 3 or more in other games so i expect that to happen again this week.  hoping that the lb's get to put some good hits on the qb if he keeps it.  hoping that the weather turns out as nice as this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on October 23, 2011, 04:46:58 PM
I certainly join those hoping for good news regarding the ill young man.

I have had only one chance to see Wesley this season so very much looking forward to this upcoming game.

FWIW the long term weather forecast has showers for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday with temperatures in the high 50's to low 60's so could be a chilly afternoon.

Ned
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 23, 2011, 10:03:45 PM
Ski, was a pleasure seeing you as well. I will keep you informed as to how Ben is doing.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on October 24, 2011, 07:31:26 PM
Please do keep us posted on Coach Knapp's situation. Is he still in Piitsburg??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 24, 2011, 08:17:59 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 22, 2011, 09:52:13 PM
Will lift up prayers for the knapp family.

Hawks88
great to see yall. sloppy game, but still a good win.
that 3rd QB was ( in the short time he played) the best QB i have seen us play against all year. They had some good athletes.

2 wks off then LaGrange, do not make fun or cast dispersions on any one from west ga  ;D

Lord willing we'll see yall in 2 weeks
keep the faith
Hey DGP, doesn't seem to be any posters from west ga anymore so probably not much danger of that. ;) Not sure what to make of them giving Trinity a better game than we did. Hope we stay focused and don't get caught looking past them.
Did a little googling of the Webber QB to see where he came from. Looks like has had trouble sticking anywhere as this is his 4th school in 4 years. He was the Gulf South freshman of the year in '08 at Valdosta before a year at Georgia Military college and started part of last year for Towson St before getting kicked off the team. Heard one of our players had asked him after the game why he wasn't starting and he said "Politics" but that we would see him in The League next year. He has some talent but I don't know about that. heh
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 24, 2011, 08:34:30 PM
beenhit2hard

  The last update I've seen was posted earlier today and Drs weren't happy with improvement . Tests scheduled for tomorrow
It's a very sad situation. Everyone is praying that his condition will improve.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on October 24, 2011, 08:42:07 PM
Thanks pa,,will probably see you saturday .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 24, 2011, 08:51:54 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 24, 2011, 08:17:59 PM
Hey DGP, doesn't seem to be any posters from west ga anymore so probably not much danger of that. ;) Not sure what to make of them giving Trinity a better game than we did. Hope we stay focused and don't get caught looking past them.

1.  Home field advantage worth at least a TD when D3 teams have to travel that far, and
2.  TU head coach Mohr laid up in hospital and did not make trip.  He's out but uncertain for this week's game.  The guys were no doubt a bit distracted and the DC was in charge.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: seventiesraider on October 24, 2011, 10:26:23 PM
Thanks to Wesley for wiping Walsh and shutting up their coach. Interesting his line was they had nothing to gain by playing Mount Union, but apparently thought they had something to gain by because they thought they could beat any team Mount Union beat. I've got some local kids who were bragging up the game. Been kinda quiet
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 24, 2011, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on October 24, 2011, 10:26:23 PM
Thanks to Wesley for wiping Walsh and shutting up their coach. Interesting his line was they had nothing to gain by playing Mount Union, but apparently thought they had something to gain by because they thought they could beat any team Mount Union beat. I've got some local kids who were bragging up the game. Been kinda quiet

I remember you talking about the Walsh guys at the beginning of the season.  I passed this onto the team.  }8^)  I think that these divergent games vs NAIA, Div I and USCAA teams show just how potent top Division III teams really are.

I really hope Ben pulls through this.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 25, 2011, 09:47:35 AM
Quote from: Teamski on October 24, 2011, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on October 24, 2011, 10:26:23 PM
Thanks to Wesley for wiping Walsh and shutting up their coach. Interesting his line was they had nothing to gain by playing Mount Union, but apparently thought they had something to gain by because they thought they could beat any team Mount Union beat. I've got some local kids who were bragging up the game. Been kinda quiet

I remember you talking about the Walsh guys at the beginning of the season.  I passed this onto the team.  }8^)  I think that these divergent games vs NAIA, Div I and USCAA teams show just how potent top Division III teams really are.

I really hope Ben pulls through this.....

-Ski

Well speaking as one of those USCAA teams -- we know how potent a certain school in Delaware can be :)
and we will see them in a week

Prayers for Coach Knapp and family
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 25, 2011, 03:29:02 PM
Coach Knapp is still in Pittsburgh with Ben. It seems like they are going to give him more time to let him heal. Hoping for the best.  I have heard the Wolverines will wear stickers on the their helmets for ben too. Just need to keep praying and hoping for the best.

Good win for wesley this weekend vs. Walsh. Really cool to play at Fawcett Stadium and all. On to the familiar rival of Salisbury.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 25, 2011, 04:17:14 PM
Ron- hope you are right, as yall whipped us and 'got by' LaGrange. I'd sure hate to lose to LaGrange.

Hawks88 - Neat info about the QB. Being freshman of the year in gulf south and playing for Valdosta speaks very well of ability. Being at his 4th school speaks ...well .. not so good about other factors. i am unsure if he will be in the NFL next year ???? perhaps he was referring to another league.  ;D. He was pretty good, but no Cam.

Two weeks off, i hope we don't lose focus and can take care of LaGrange. Dover Del is soon enough, just got to beat that west jawja crowd.
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 25, 2011, 05:39:33 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 25, 2011, 03:29:02 PM
Coach Knapp is still in Pittsburgh with Ben. It seems like they are going to give him more time to let him heal. Hoping for the best.  I have heard the Wolverines will wear stickers on the their helmets for ben too. Just need to keep praying and hoping for the best.

Good win for wesley this weekend vs. Walsh. Really cool to play at Fawcett Stadium and all. On to the familiar rival of Salisbury.

Thanks for the update.  I guess only time will tell on how well Ben will do.  I keep a special prayer for him each day.  It was only days ago I was talking to him on the bus trip about going to the HOF.  How fast things can change.....    :-[  Hang in there Ben.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on October 26, 2011, 11:42:39 AM
teamski, wesleydad,

How you see the Wesley/Salisbury game? Is this Wesley's stepping stone to the playoffs again? :-\

Hope all is well and that you can see the game if possible! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 26, 2011, 01:25:22 PM
Wesley obviously needs to wrap up the season so every game is like a playoff game.  I know Wesley has the ability to close down Salisbury's run game.  They solved the triple option a long time ago.  However, this is the Route 13 Rivalry and as happened before, it will be a highly spirited game.  Salisbury is coming in undefeated, so they will have a chip on their shoulders.  I do not think their surging passing game will be really effective due to the Nor'easter coming in on Saturday with 45 degree temps with rain. 

It will be a trying Saturday without Coach Knapp on the sidelines and the effect that the tragedy that hit Ben has on the team.  It will take some serious focus to play at 100%.  That said, I have faith that they will do so.  Coach Az is more than than capable of taking the offensive reigns and the team is starting to gel on both lines.  The team played really well last week and if they can get through the first half without major mistakes, then I think Salisbury will be in trouble.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on October 26, 2011, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 26, 2011, 01:25:22 PM
Wesley obviously needs to wrap up the season so every game is like a playoff game.  I know Wesley has the ability to close down Salisbury's run game.  They solved the triple option a long time ago.  However, this is the Route 13 Rivalry and as happened before, it will be a highly spirited game.  Salisbury is coming in undefeated, so they will have a chip on their shoulders.  I do not think their surging passing game will be really ineffective due to the Nor'easter coming in on Saturday with 45 degree temps with rain. 

It will be a trying Saturday without Coach Knapp on the sidelines and the effect that the tragedy that hit Ben has on the team.  It will take some serious focus to play at 100%.  That said, I have faith that they will do so.  Coach Az is more than than capable of taking the offensive reigns and the team is starting to gel on both lines.  The team played really well last week and if they can get through the first half without major mistakes, then I think Salisbury will be in trouble.

-Ski

Teamski,

Thanks for your informative post! +k! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 26, 2011, 07:37:32 PM
raider68, i think this will be a good game.  checking out the stats, salisbury has fumbled the ball 26 times this year losing 15 of them.  that is an average of 2 lost fumbles a game.  they certainly will not want to give the ball to wesley any more than they have to.  salisbury is averaging over 50 points a game, but only scored 21 against ithaca and 27 against christopher newport.  i think wesley has a better defense than any team the gulls have faced and they are well versed in stopping the triple option.  the weak part of the d in my opinion is the secondary.  ski has stated that they seem to have tightened up that area.  a huge area to look at will be how different the offense looks with a different coach calling the plays.  the game plan may be the same, but no 2 coaches see things the same way.  finally, if the weather turns ugly and there is a chance of that, then wesley will have a huge advantage or at least it would seem they would.  i cant imagine the triple option being easy to run in heavy rain.  as usual the weather people are throwing darts at the forecast right now so the only thing i am sure of is that if the world is still spinning then they will have a game on saturday with either clouds and wind or heavy rain, wind, wet snow, or just shy of armageddon.  i believe that wesley will handle the tough situation with coach knapp's son just fine.  he would want them to play their best and would expect nothing less.  can salisbury stop wesley from scoring?  the offense has not put up the points as in past years, but they are playing well right now.  play calling seems to be pretty even run/pass.  wesley should win the game and i expect them to.  salisbury's run through the e8 is not surprising to me or anyone here, most of us have thought the e8 is not as good as advertised.  wesley must win to have any shot at the playoffs so that must be the mentality.  first game of the year that i am really looking forward to with wesley, they have been all over the place.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on October 26, 2011, 07:50:19 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 26, 2011, 07:37:32 PM
raider68, i think this will be a good game.  checking out the stats, salisbury has fumbled the ball 26 times this year losing 15 of them.  that is an average of 2 lost fumbles a game.  they certainly will not want to give the ball to wesley any more than they have to.  salisbury is averaging over 50 points a game, but only scored 21 against ithaca and 27 against christopher newport.  i think wesley has a better defense than any team the gulls have faced and they are well versed in stopping the triple option.  the weak part of the d in my opinion is the secondary.  ski has stated that they seem to have tightened up that area.  a huge area to look at will be how different the offense looks with a different coach calling the plays.  the game plan may be the same, but no 2 coaches see things the same way.  finally, if the weather turns ugly and there is a chance of that, then wesley will have a huge advantage or at least it would seem they would.  i cant imagine the triple option being easy to run in heavy rain.  as usual the weather people are throwing darts at the forecast right now so the only thing i am sure of is that if the world is still spinning then they will have a game on saturday with either clouds and wind or heavy rain, wind, wet snow, or just shy of armageddon.  i believe that wesley will handle the tough situation with coach knapp's son just fine.  he would want them to play their best and would expect nothing less.  can salisbury stop wesley from scoring?  the offense has not put up the points as in past years, but they are playing well right now.  play calling seems to be pretty even run/pass.  wesley should win the game and i expect them to.  salisbury's run through the e8 is not surprising to me or anyone here, most of us have thought the e8 is not as good as advertised.  wesley must win to have any shot at the playoffs so that must be the mentality.  first game of the year that i am really looking forward to with wesley, they have been all over the place.

wesleydad,

Hope you enjoy the game and thanks for the input. IMHO, Wesley will win this one! +k! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 27, 2011, 09:52:41 AM
Great article for Ben on the cover of D3football.com. It seems almost unreal that a person can go from completely healthy one second and in a hospital the next. They will give him another MRI soon to see how he is doing. Still praying lots.

As far as this weeks game goes, the weather will definitely play a factor to benefit the Wolverines, and since they have historically been able to solve that option attack of Salisbury, things are in Wesley's favor if they come out and play clean solid football.

See you all out there!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 28, 2011, 11:00:02 PM
well here we go.  looks like the weather will play as much a part in the outcome of the game as either team will.  shame, this should have been a real good game and it may well still end up being a good one.  i will be there as i hope most wesley fans will be.  it sounds like the johns hopkins game in the playoffs a couple of years ago.  i can not imagine how the poor weather does not favor wesley.  i thought they would win the game in good weather so i still think they will win, but the score is a crap shoot.  safe travels to all in the east as this could really get ugly in some areas.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 29, 2011, 08:58:00 AM
YYAAAWWNNN!  Just got up.  It is nice and crummy out there and I am really pumped up!   Cold, Rain, Wind and blowing leaves with a heavily leaden sky above.  This is the game of the season for Wesley, right here, right now.  I see a lot of fumbles and a marked lack of passing today. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 29, 2011, 09:10:43 AM
hopefully only a lot of fumbles for one team.  i think that wesley needs to get in the 20's to win the game, but there is a chance that little scoring occurs due to the weather.  will be no tailgating for me today, arrival planned for 1230 or so attempting to stay warm and dry as long as possible.  will be a chilly time on top of the press box for you ski.  i still think it will be a good game, just like the johns hopkins playoff game a couple of years ago.  wesley needs to win to keep playoff hopes alive.  time for the d line to step up and control the game, pounding the qb on every play.  ball control will also help so the o line needs to handle salisbury's unusual d set up, think they play a 4 2 5.  see you there, breaking out the jersey for this one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on October 29, 2011, 12:23:48 PM
We hope y'all do not get the rain we just had here in Chincoteague,,could not see 15 feet in any direction  and some 30 mph winds,,hope y' all stay dry,,we got soaked at our HS game last night,,tough to do 2 days in a row, GOOOO Wolvs!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 29, 2011, 05:12:32 PM
Wow, that was one cold, windy and wet game!  I was uncontrollably shaking throughout the game and I am still thawing out.  Wesley was definately the better team out there today.  It was silly penalties that kept the game closer than it should of been (9/99).  That said, Salisbury played tough.  The high number of personal fouls and unsportmanlike penalties reflected this fact.  The weather played havoc. However, both teams did a decent job keeping the ball off the ground even though Salisbury got some breaks on some fumbles they had.  I was surprised by the ability to pass the ball by both teams in driving rain conditions.  Gusts exceeded 25MPH.

It was great to see Ben Knapp stickers on the helmets.  I know Coach Drass was going to hit the road to Pitsburgh right after the game with the ball.

It was a key win for Wesley this year limiting Salisbury to 14 points.  The defense really did a sweet job denying salisbury some key first downs. 

Now that I am getting feeling back into my right pinkie....  ;)

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 29, 2011, 05:27:45 PM
overall a very good football game.  the weather was cold, but the rain stopped during the second and third quarters.  the wind made it tough to pass away from the scoreboard end. wesley's d did a real nice job stopping slaisbury, only gave up 2 big plays for td's.  key stop on 4th down at midfield with 7 min to go in the game.  Wesley o holds the ball the rest of the game.  Salisbury is a pretty good team and I will be interested in seeing next weeks game against fisher.  They have a tough d and the offense has potential to break a big one on any play.  wesley looked under control the whold game and made the plays when they needed to.  looked like salisbury thought they could pass on them as it seemed like they threw the ball more than i expected.  wesley needs to clean up the personal fouls, 2 of them could have been key had they lost the game.  wesley gave themselves a chance to get in the playoffs.  win out and they should be in as a pool b or c.  best game i have seen this year, these 2 teams along with del val and johns hopkins all should make the playoffs and will be tough games for anyone.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 29, 2011, 09:15:13 PM
Worth freezing to see a good game.  Missed Uncle Frank - hopefully he's ok and just had the good sense to stay warm and dry in NJ?  Been a long time since I've seen the side lines as vocal as they were today, even against Salisbury. Seemed like even the coaches were enjoying the win a little more than usual.  Hope we can use the next two games to keep working on the secondary and get ready for the playoffs (please please please).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 29, 2011, 11:27:34 PM
Great game today for the Wolverines! They seemed to control the entire game. McSweeny was able to throw the ball pretty well despite the wind and rain. All in all a great win for Wesley.....minus the penalties of course. Still need to clean those up. But that will come hopefully. Wesley made plays win they needed to and came out on top. Dont think that Wesley "feels somewhat vulnerable" at all. Remember that they have beaten a D1-AA full-scholarship program, an scholarship NAIA program, and now the top team in the Empire 8.

STAND IN THE GAP! Go Wolverines!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 30, 2011, 12:04:12 AM
 I am still stunned that the Refs let Salisbury taunt Wesley players from their sidelines .And I have never seen an organized taunting like I did today!!. No 4 was getting under the Wesley players skin and getting the reaction he wanted .i.e. the three unsportsmanlike. Wesley palyed a very charged enthusiastic game today. The small home crowd was dissapointing but the snow started a lot sooner up here in Pa and NJ and travel was a lilttle dangerous.

I spoke with Ben Knapps baseball coach today . They were selling the wrist bands  with Ben's name on it!! Nice of them to tackle that task!! Also talked with Chips brother and nephew. They are hanging in there . Keep them in your thoughts and prayers .. Thanks!!

 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on October 30, 2011, 07:38:25 AM
Spent most of the game standing near the endzone opposite the scoreboard but also some time on the visitor side and SU fans were very vocal in their unhappiness with the officiating but I also noticed what seemed to be unusually heavy sideline "banter" between the teams as referenced by PA_wesley fan.

Possibly naive on my part but I never had the feeling Wesley was in jeopardy during the game.

I do believe there were more people on the two sidelines than there were in the stands.

Ned
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 30, 2011, 08:20:04 AM
i can honestly say that i didnt notice anything out of the ordinary between the 2 teams as far as tuanting or banter and i was also standing in the end zone opposite the scoreboard.  this is always a high spirited game and wesley was just as animated in thier actions.  i had a salisbury fan standing next to me and all he did was complain about how cheap wesley plays.  guess it depends on whose side you are cheering for.  what i am always surprised by is how the salisbury head coach does not get flagged for all the histrionics that he does on the field complaining about calls agains his team.  as far as the officials, I think they missed the salisbury runner stepping out of bounds on the long td run.  from where i was standing i thought he may have stepped out twice, pretty sure near the 20.  the lead official on that side was running down the sideline so he had no chance of seeing it and there were so many bodies flying around and on the sideline that the trailing official almost certainly had his view blocked.  there is no excuse at all for taking unsportsmanlike penalties due to the other teams taunting or tactics, point to the scoreboard and walk away.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on October 30, 2011, 09:29:48 AM
Despite the in the heat of the game posturing, it was nice to see both teams come together and take a knee at the end of the game. Maybe some of the fans could take a hint from that and do the same. When the game is over, its over. Go back to life as we know it and remember that it is just a game.

Prayers to the Knapps.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 30, 2011, 11:35:30 AM
 I do agree that the Wesley players need a litttle thicker skin when it comes to the trash talking. Obviously the opponents were not heard by the refs and the Wesley players were.. I just think that the Refs have to take care of the BS from the start!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on November 03, 2011, 09:19:59 PM
Hawks88
If your are out there in cyberland, We Plan on driving over to the game. I hope the Hawks will be up and ready, as this game has upset written all over it. Not to cast dispertions (sp?) on the west JawJa crowd, i sure would hate to lose to them than anybody.

keep the faith and hope to see you on saturday
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2011, 11:03:04 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 03, 2011, 09:19:59 PM
Hawks88
If your are out there in cyberland, We Plan on driving over to the game. I hope the Hawks will be up and ready, as this game has upset written all over it. Not to cast dispertions (sp?) on the west JawJa crowd, i sure would hate to lose to them than anybody.

keep the faith and hope to see you on saturday
DGP, yeah they are on the short list of folks I really hate losing to(BSC, Murvul, we never lost to Faulkner but I imagine that wouldn't be a good day either). Hoping the guys take care of business. We'll see you Saturday.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 05, 2011, 08:24:00 AM
travels taking me to salisbury to see the E8 battle today.  hoping for a good game but wont be stunned if salisbury wins the game easily.  former acfc member has run over the E8 this year.  Fisher is supposed to have a good defense, but can they handle the salisbury triple option.  it is a nice day for a football game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 05, 2011, 12:10:25 PM
 Wesley needs to get through today without any more injuries!!!!  And Then get ready for Huntingdon.  Prayers are still needed for young Ben Knapp . He has made some small progress.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 05, 2011, 05:53:38 PM
Wesley 55-0 over Apprentice School
Held the Wolverines to a season-low 270 yards offense, but gave up too many short field opportunities.  Wesley scored 20 points in a 2:55 span of the second quarter to jump out 27-0.
Good luck Wesley --
Teamski -- hope you got a little feeling in the hands after the windy fun on top of our press box.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 05, 2011, 08:03:01 PM
Solid win for the Hawks today, 45-10 over LaGrange. First half was kind of nerve wracking as we scored two quick TD's the first three minutes or so of the game then muddled about the rest of the first half and ended up 14-10 at halftime. Fortunately we came out and had a strong third quarter to pull away.
Anxious to see what we can do at Dover next week! Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 05, 2011, 08:29:28 PM
nnasid, nice to hear from you.  sorry i didnt make it but i chose to take the shorter ride and see the salisbury - fisher game.  appreciate the insight into the game from the other sides point of view.  if it was as windy as it was in salisbury, 25 - 30 mph all game, then i am sure teamski was frozen.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on November 05, 2011, 09:24:09 PM
Hawks88
great to see yall today, good to beat those folk. Not to cast dispersions, but they are not the nicest crowd.

I was worried early, but the second half went well. We would need our second half today, our first half against HSC, a bunch of good calls by the refs, no mistakes, and a bunch of Wesley mistakes to make it a good game. We shall see.

hopefully i will see yall again before too long.
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 05, 2011, 10:54:15 PM
Well......not much to say here. Seems like Wesley was always getting the ball in NNA territory which explains why the numbers are down (McSweeny just 83 yards in the air).....But they got the job done.

Next week is Huntingdon. This is the final hurtle of the regular season. If we come out and play Wesley Football, no one can beat us.

Keep praying for Ben. Seeing minor improvements everyday but he still needs all the help he can get.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 05, 2011, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: nnasid on November 05, 2011, 05:53:38 PM
Wesley 55-0 over Apprentice School
Held the Wolverines to a season-low 270 yards offense, but gave up too many short field opportunities.  Wesley scored 20 points in a 2:55 span of the second quarter to jump out 27-0.
Good luck Wesley --
Teamski -- hope you got a little feeling in the hands after the windy fun on top of our press box.

You should of said Hi to me....It was still pretty cold out with the wind, but I survived.  The sun helped out a bit.

I have to say that the staff and faculty at NNA are about the nicest people I have met at any school.  They are just too damn friendly. Seriously, they are  the most talkative and genuine people I have met.  Each year, they are really happy to talk and share their company with you.  Cudos!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 05, 2011, 10:59:50 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 05, 2011, 10:54:15 PM
Well......not much to say here. Seems like Wesley was always getting the ball in NNA territory which explains why the numbers are down (McSweeny just 83 yards in the air).....But they got the job done.

Next week is Huntingdon. This is the final hurtle of the regular season. If we come out and play Wesley Football, no one can beat us.

Keep praying for Ben. Seeing minor improvements everyday but he still needs all the help he can get.

Definitely, the first round of the playoffs starts next week for Wesley.  I can guarantee you that the players are fully aware of it as well!  I know Huntingdon will be showing up to play as well, but I believe the gloves are off for this one.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 06, 2011, 01:36:27 AM
Quote from: Teamski on November 05, 2011, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: nnasid on November 05, 2011, 05:53:38 PM
Wesley 55-0 over Apprentice School
Held the Wolverines to a season-low 270 yards offense, but gave up too many short field opportunities.  Wesley scored 20 points in a 2:55 span of the second quarter to jump out 27-0.
Good luck Wesley --
Teamski -- hope you got a little feeling in the hands after the windy fun on top of our press box.

You should of said Hi to me....It was still pretty cold out with the wind, but I survived.  The sun helped out a bit.

I have to say that the staff and faculty at NNA are about the nicest people I have met at any school.  They are just too damn friendly. Seriously, they are  the most talkative and genuine people I have met.  Each year, they are really happy to talk and share their company with you.  Cudos!

-Ski
Ski - I thought that was you ... I spoke to you at halftime when you were enjoying a break from the wind inside the box...made the crack about welcoming Wesley with the usual weather for an Apprentice-Wesley game ... windy windy and more windy.... ;)

Far as McSweeny's numbers -- didnt seem to have the pinpoint touch that I have seen from him in the past...granted 25-30 mph winds coming cross ways probably had a touch to do on that.

Thanks for the kind words -- always enjoy talking to Coach Drass, Coach Azz. and the radio duo of Sean and Jason.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 06, 2011, 07:23:13 AM
Quote from: nnasid on November 06, 2011, 01:36:27 AM

Ski - I thought that was you ... I spoke to you at halftime when you were enjoying a break from the wind inside the box...made the crack about welcoming Wesley with the usual weather for an Apprentice-Wesley game ... windy windy and more windy.... ;)

 

Doh!  Of course, I should have known. It was a pleasure to talk with you.  You are completely correct on the weather link between NNA and Wesley.  There is never a game between the two without some strong wind, clouds and sometimes rain.  Maybe we should schedule for the beginning of the season, hey?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 06, 2011, 08:30:59 AM
no issues with the yardage totals.  touchdowns by the defense limit the offensive touches.  wesley has a big game this weekend against huntingdon.  the defense seems to have cut down on the mistakes in the secondary with the d line and lb's as good as anyone.  the offense is productive, they do not have the big name playmakers like the past couple of years but they are getting the job done.  special teams has shown great improvement since the kean game when they could not have been any worse.  with the results from yesterday, it looks like they will get to host a game in week one.  with a win, they will likely travel to jhu for week 2.  umhb would likely be next, but mcmurray may have something to say about that.  if mcmurray wins then wesley would host the south region finals. :D  of course all of this depends on a win this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 06, 2011, 10:40:48 PM
Early forecast for Dover on Saturday, Sunny and 56. Can we get a calm wind too....please?  ;)

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 06, 2011, 11:14:32 PM
Hawks

It is never calm in Dover.. Breezy is calm..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on November 07, 2011, 12:12:18 AM
Good to see you as well NNA.  That's always one of our favorite trips.  BTW if you haven't tried the calamari at what used to be called "The Pub" (Now Park Place I believe) across from Hampton Coliseum, it's worth a trip.  A rare break in the "Great BBQ Tour of the South".

As for the Dover wind: At least there won't be sleet.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 07, 2011, 11:27:13 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 06, 2011, 11:14:32 PM
Hawks

It is never calm in Dover.. Breezy is calm..

I dont know if Dover knows the meaning of calm wind  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 07, 2011, 04:17:42 PM
Quote from: nnasid on November 07, 2011, 11:27:13 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 06, 2011, 11:14:32 PM
Hawks

It is never calm in Dover.. Breezy is calm..

I dont know if Dover knows the meaning of calm wind  ;D

Hehehe....It does exist, however it seems as if football game days are expressly excluded from the calm list.  Call it nature's cruel joke.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 07, 2011, 05:13:27 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 06, 2011, 10:40:48 PM
Early forecast for Dover on Saturday, Sunny and 56. Can we get a calm wind too....please?  ;)

Go Hawks!

Unfortunately, you missed the "breezy" in that forecast which will be the case according to Accuweather.

It will be a good game for sure nonetheless!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 07, 2011, 07:05:21 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 07, 2011, 05:13:27 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 06, 2011, 10:40:48 PM
Early forecast for Dover on Saturday, Sunny and 56. Can we get a calm wind too....please?  ;)

Go Hawks!

Unfortunately, you missed the "breezy" in that forecast which will be the case according to Accuweather.

It will be a good game for sure nonetheless!

-Ski
National Weather Service hasn't added the wind part to the forecast yet, probably in the next couple of days. I think it will be a good game too. Wish I could be there.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 07, 2011, 08:59:15 PM
hawks88, looking at the hawks stats it looks like they would rather throw the ball than run it.  wesley is much better against the run so that may give the hawks a chance.  if they can not run the ball at all which is a possibility then they will have to be real good to have a chance.  also, the defense gives up well over 300 yards a game which will be too much against wesley.  i know the game was a good one for a half last year before wesley took control, i think that is what will happen again.  i also know that the game is good for both teams and hope they will continue to play, but the travel may dictate otherwise.  if anyone is traveling, be safe and enjoy your stay in dover.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 12, 2011, 12:39:25 PM
How the hell do they not call that? The fullback was falling forward at the snap!
4th and 2 play for Wesley and they score on the play.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 12, 2011, 12:51:46 PM
Getting ugly, 27-0 early 2nd qtr.

Huntingdon self-destructing now. Fumbled snap on a punt, now 34-0.

Interception at HC 38. Our line is just being dominated a this point. Offense can't do anything.

Defense doesn't have too many answers either. 41-0, 6:00 left in 2nd.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 12, 2011, 01:55:33 PM
47-0 early 3rd. Wesley making a statement today. Can't make so many mistakes when a great team shows up determined and ready to play.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 12, 2011, 02:55:49 PM
54-13 final in Dover. Thankfully Wesley started subbing early in the 3rd.
Disappointing end to a good season, we'll be pulling for Wesley, Trinity and Hampden-Sydney to advance deep into the playoffs.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on November 12, 2011, 03:39:57 PM
Hawks88
much worse than i'd hoped for, Wesley is just in a different class than we are.

i sure hope Wesley can go deep in the playoffs again...maybe to the Satgg. i too will be pulling for HSC, Trinity and of course Wesley.

Not a bad season 7-3 with a bunch of real good schools, wish we could have won the BSC game, but we shall see next year.

i pray yall stay well, have a great Holiday season, and Lord willing we will see you when we are either in the greater Auburn-Opelika area, or at a game next season
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on November 12, 2011, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 12, 2011, 03:39:57 PM
Hawks88
much worse than i'd hoped for, Wesley is just in a different class than we are.


There are an awful lot of South Region teams that have hit this same conclusion over the years. I applaud Huntingdon for scheduling tough. It will only make them better. I also sincerely hope that the turd that H-SC is trying to lay today in The Game doesn't get them sent to Delaware in Rd 1...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on November 12, 2011, 04:00:18 PM
,Want to say congrats to Huntingdon for playing the schedule they did this season. Nevertheless, I watch Wesley play a complete gamem dominating on all accounts. I can see Wesley going deep in the playoffs again this season. I believe that Wesley deserves at least a couple home games in the playoff bracket. They proved to alot of people why they are still one of the top teams in the nation today. Congrats to both teams, but my hat is off to Weslye. Good Luck in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 12, 2011, 04:18:30 PM
That was definitely a dominating performance on both sides of the ball.  No doubt having Chip Knapp back on the sidelines didn't hurt either.  It was great to see him do what he does best.  The old gang is back together again.

  I wish Huntingdon the best for next year.   They have a lot of spirit and the quickest no-huddle offense I have seen this year!  Man, those guys could line up in seconds! 

I am really excited about which region Wesley will be grouped in with this year.  Only time will tell.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 12, 2011, 07:24:04 PM
nice to hear that wesley played another complete game.  figure them to be home next week against either cnu or hampden.  i think hopkins will be the 2 seed so wesley will have to travel to dc in round 2 if they win round 1.  in the other half the mcmurray- umhb rematch could be a good one should they both win round 1.  wesley win and mcmurray win and wesley has south region final home game.  one can hope. :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 12, 2011, 07:29:16 PM


It was great to see Coach Chip at the game today. Wesley played well in all aspects of the game,,Huntinton did not have any answers .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 13, 2011, 06:37:37 PM
i am a little confused by it all.  wesley gets hobart in round 1 and if they win do they host the winner of the linfield - cal luth game.  i like how they moved things around and now teams in the east can stop complaining about mount and prove that they can win games.  salisbury gets to go to play kean if they both win in round 1 to see who gets to play uww in the quarters.  in my opinion the st thomas bracket looks the weakest.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on November 13, 2011, 06:42:34 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 13, 2011, 06:37:37 PM
i am a little confused by it all.  wesley gets hobart in round 1 and if they win do they host the winner of the linfield - cal luth game.   i like how they moved things around and now teams in the east can stop complaining about mount and prove that they can win games.  salisbury gets to go to play kean if they both win in round 1 to see who gets to play uww in the quarters.  in my opinion the st thomas bracket looks the weakest.

wesleydad, Linfield, by their placement in the bracket, is the #2 seed...I believe they would host the winner of Wesley/Hobart. Get ready to travel cross country!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 13, 2011, 06:48:16 PM
bobo, i believe if the brackets are set up right the outside is the higher seed so wesley would host round 2.  plus they stated on d3 that is looks like wesley and umhb are the tops in their bracket.  there will be no travel for me since the boy is not playing.  will find a much closer 2nd round game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 13, 2011, 07:34:17 PM
Wow, that is definitately a thrown curve ball!  This is trully a unique playoff.  Hopefully, Wesley will get through the first round to face Linfield.  I know their fans have been asking for this for quite a while.  ;)  Sorry about the strength of schedule, but I am thrilled to have two home games after all of the traveling the team endured this year.

Should be quite interesting!  I haven't seen Hobart play yet, so I get to see some more new teams. 

Let the fun begin!!

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 13, 2011, 10:14:33 PM
Oh wow! What a bracket! Think it's the toughest one to play in....but to win, you gotta beat the best anyways. Dont know much about Hobart, think they have 1 loss though. We will see what happens on Saturday but I do believe UMHB is 1 and Wesley is 2. Thats what it seems from the article, and the bracket. I'm excited for this postseason. If Wesley is lucky, they may show up in my backyard again in Alliance...sorta....40 minute drive lol. But Hobart first! Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 13, 2011, 11:09:14 PM
quick look at hobart's stats and results seems to show a team that is not playing as well now as they did in the beginning of the year.  the stats from the rochester game do not look very good on the offensive side and i dont think rochester has as good a defense as wesley does.  seems like they may try to throw the ball, but that may not be good if they cant run it much.  the fisher game seems to be out of whack and the fisher people think so too.  also read that wesley tried to get a game with hobart this year and hobart turned it down.  karma possibly, it would not have hurt them since they have an AQ.  wesley was given some respect with the 2 seed, if that is what they have, and it makes sense with the regional rankings.  jhu was the 2 and they were moved to another bracket moving wesley up.  win the first game and the potantial game with linfield should they win is a good one, cal lutheran is also tough.  no cakewalks in this bracket, i think the most balanced one of the 4.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on November 15, 2011, 08:55:55 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 13, 2011, 06:48:16 PM
bobo, i believe if the brackets are set up right the outside is the higher seed so wesley would host round 2.  plus they stated on d3 that is looks like wesley and umhb are the tops in their bracket.  there will be no travel for me since the boy is not playing.  will find a much closer 2nd round game.

wesleydad,

Hopefully we will see you at Mount Union, but there are some tough games ahead for both Wesley and Mount! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2011, 11:04:41 AM
Quote from: Raider 68 on November 15, 2011, 08:55:55 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 13, 2011, 06:48:16 PM
bobo, i believe if the brackets are set up right the outside is the higher seed so wesley would host round 2.  plus they stated on d3 that is looks like wesley and umhb are the tops in their bracket.  there will be no travel for me since the boy is not playing.  will find a much closer 2nd round game.

wesleydad,

Hopefully we will see you at Mount Union, but there are some tough games ahead for both Wesley and Mount! :)

You are not kidding!  One game at a time for sure.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2011, 12:37:03 PM
It's great to see Shane McSweeny's 46 yard run make it as a play of the week finalist.  Once again, he shows his moves!  And, camerawork by yours truly to boot!  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 15, 2011, 06:59:00 PM
one game at a time and one new team each time.  wesley wins this week, they play the winner of cal luth or linfield, 2 new teams, win that game and if someone beats umhb they would play a new team again.  going further, if wabash or ncc can beat mount then wesley plays another new team which puts us in the stagg.  if by chance st thomas takes out uww, then another new team.  now that would be a fun scenario and if we have the seeds right wesley would be home for possibly all the games, hope for ncc since they are likely a 3, would have to go to wabash since they are the higher bracket 2.  taking them one game at a time but a little fun to project down the road.  it would also send my total of teams seen this year to 20 different teams.  man this is fun.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 15, 2011, 09:17:36 PM
Still only Tuesday!!!!! Man I'm excited for the playoffs this year. Think there is a good chance that the purple duck will be broken in some way! Take it 1 game at a time and hopefully Wesley has quite a few left. Let's just get this week to speed up!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 16, 2011, 09:45:23 PM
i agree waterboy, but now wednesday is over so only 2 more days to get through.  looking forward to getting this game over with, take care of business as they should, better team wins the game.  then it will get really exciting, either linfield or cal luth in dover as far as we know at this point.  would be nice to see how the west coast plays the game as they like to say on their website.  will be nice for wesley to show them how the east coast plays the game.  is it saturday yet?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 17, 2011, 04:11:43 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2011, 09:45:23 PM
i agree waterboy, but now wednesday is over so only 2 more days to get through.  looking forward to getting this game over with, take care of business as they should, better team wins the game.  then it will get really exciting, either linfield or cal luth in dover as far as we know at this point.  would be nice to see how the west coast plays the game as they like to say on their website.  will be nice for wesley to show them how the east coast plays the game.  is it saturday yet?

Beyond Hobart, it will get really interesting to see how much parity there is between the coasts.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 17, 2011, 07:08:47 PM


Teamski,,is everyone healthy for this week??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 17, 2011, 09:27:48 PM
only thursday. >:(  taking too long to get to saturday.  dont think the game will be that close.  believe that hobart will have trouble scoring and dont think wesley will.  think it will end up like the huntingdon game.  safe travels to anyone from hobart.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 17, 2011, 09:51:24 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on November 17, 2011, 07:08:47 PM


Teamski,,is everyone healthy for this week??

As far as I know, Wesley is good to go.  It will be nice having the Irish connection this time around!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on November 18, 2011, 10:34:12 PM
in Jason Bowen's artice on the south region he Quotes Coach Turk on the Wesley loss
"We got beat by a very good football team today," Turk said. "They beat us fair and square. It was not close. It's unfortunate for our guys to end their season this way but you don't leave here with regrets when you lose to a team of that caliber."

Well I heard that... I saw Wesley a few times over the past 5 yrs... I am hoping yall will rock everyone and I sure would like to see yall in Salem this Dec.

Huntingdon's GA for strenth & conditioning..and film coordinator has not been home since the season began in August. His mom and I are waiting for him to come through the door anytime. I got a pile of work lined up for him tomorrow (moving sheep, hay and logs). He was my helper up until 5 yrs ago when he went to Play for Coach Turk (a real real good feller). However, we will shut the farming down to listen to the game out of Dover.

yall lay it on em
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 19, 2011, 08:27:50 AM
finally game day.  i think wesley wins this game rather easily.  if they protect the ball i dont know how much hobart will be able to score.  i am pretty sure this will be the biggest and fastest defense they have played this year.  wesley has been running a balanced attack so it makes it tough for the opposing team to concentrate on stopping one thing.  i agree with the predictions, wesley by 30.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 19, 2011, 09:18:27 AM
GAMEDAY!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 19, 2011, 09:49:31 AM
on the road to dover, hope to see a good game with a wesley victory.  cool and crisp outside makes for great football weather.  i am sure the wind will be blowing a little as usual in dover.  dress warm ski, will cold up top today.  be standing in the end zone as usual, great place to watch the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 19, 2011, 10:24:55 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 19, 2011, 09:49:31 AM
on the road to dover, hope to see a good game with a wesley victory.  cool and crisp outside makes for great football weather.  i am sure the wind will be blowing a little as usual in dover.  dress warm ski, will cold up top today.  be standing in the end zone as usual, great place to watch the game.

Yeah, I got bit at the Salisbury game.  Once bitten, twice shy.  It is beautifully sunny out today, so all is GOOD.  Have a safe trip and see you at the game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 19, 2011, 02:24:28 PM
This is really hard to listen to. Getting flashbacks from the Kean game  :-\.....COME ON WOLVERINES!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 19, 2011, 04:12:35 PM
That was one painful game to watch.  It was Kean all over again.  Check these stats out for Wesley:

13 Penalties for 157 yards!
3 fumbles lost
1 interception
1 blocked punt for a TD

And they won! 

Amazing.  It must be jitters or something that causes this sort of game.  It is the only explanation.  Like the games since Kean, I think that Wesley will settle down to play like Wolverines once again.  These mistakes kept Hobart pumped up and in the game.   

The defense was the star of the game in the end.  Two CRITICAL 4th and goal stops won this game, the last one within the last 3 minutes of the 4th quarter. 

Onto either Linfield or CLU (although Linfield is leading into the half of their game). 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 19, 2011, 04:22:03 PM
Oh, and a hats off to McSweeney for nailing 5 TD passes!  I expect to see Kodoussou's TD catch in the finals for the play of the week!  we have two to pick from!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 19, 2011, 04:48:49 PM
ski, glad you put the negative stats up.  they are unacceptable if you want to go deep into the playoffs.  the personal fouls have to stop, they are out of control.  the offensive line really struggled with the schemes that hobart was throwing at them.  had trouble picking up blitzes all game.  if not for the fact that wesley had better players, they lose the game.  the missed tackles and sacks were the only real negative for the defense.  dont usually mention the officials, but this is the first time i can remember a crew having trouble just spotting the ball in the correct spot.  the offensive pass interference call was horrible.  hopefully wesley will dial it back up or they will be going home after next week.  that kind of lethargic effort will not beat either linfield or cal luth.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 19, 2011, 05:05:08 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 19, 2011, 04:48:49 PM
ski, glad you put the negative stats up.  they are unacceptable if you want to go deep into the playoffs.  the personal fouls have to stop, they are out of control.  the offensive line really struggled with the schemes that hobart was throwing at them.  had trouble picking up blitzes all game.  if not for the fact that wesley had better players, they lose the game.  the missed tackles and sacks were the only real negative for the defense.  dont usually mention the officials, but this is the first time i can remember a crew having trouble just spotting the ball in the correct spot.  the offensive pass interference call was horrible.  hopefully wesley will dial it back up or they will be going home after next week.  that kind of lethargic effort will not beat either linfield or cal luth.

Well, like I mentioned, this was not a typical game for Wesley outside the Kean game.  I completely agree with the officiating.  This is the first game I can remember where the officials took over 5 minutes on at least 3 occasions to discuss the placing of the ball.  Something was definitely wrong there.....

I'm sure Wesley will return ready to play next week.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on November 19, 2011, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 19, 2011, 04:48:49 PM
ski, glad you put the negative stats up.  they are unacceptable if you want to go deep into the playoffs.  the personal fouls have to stop, they are out of control.  the offensive line really struggled with the schemes that hobart was throwing at them.  had trouble picking up blitzes all game.  if not for the fact that wesley had better players, they lose the game.  the missed tackles and sacks were the only real negative for the defense.  dont usually mention the officials, but this is the first time i can remember a crew having trouble just spotting the ball in the correct spot.  the offensive pass interference call was horrible.  hopefully wesley will dial it back up or they will be going home after next week.  that kind of lethargic effort will not beat either linfield or cal luth.

Wesleydad ... how much do you attribute Wesley's problems today to them not playing as well as everyone thought they should and how much to Hobart playing better than you may have thought they would. On the OAC Pick-'em board I took Wesley -18.5 so I obviously thought they'd cruise, but with Linfield up next I'm looking for insights.
Glad you guys got through today and good luck next week. Hopefully you'll get them in Dover.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 19, 2011, 08:39:22 PM
hsctiger, credit to hobart fo the blocked punt and the int by the lineman.  wesley mishandled the 4 fumbles, not knocked out by hobart.  the team looked lethargic at times and the penalties, especially the personal fouls are inexcusable.  hobart was very tough, but wesley's play allowed them to stay in the game.  i would hope they show up better next week and linfield will be a tough game.  i saw some of the game on video and if linfield allows the cal luth qb to run like i saw in the 4th quarter, then they will have trouble since mcsweeney runs as good as any.  if wesley plays a clean game they can beat almost anyone, if they dont you get games like today.  no excuses, have to play better.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 19, 2011, 08:52:09 PM
 Hobart D played the run very well, impressed by # 5 as a OLB and a tough blitzer. But when you commit to many to the run,, big passes will come out,,and that happened today .

as for the officials,,they were unsure of the proper yds on some penalties, and they were a distraction to the game,,took away the flow,,but was a nice day and when you can win playing your B game  you must have some things going for you .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 19, 2011, 08:54:59 PM
You guys summed it up exactly.  Even during warm ups McSweeny looked nervous and seemed to lack the confidence of the last few games.  The offense looked out of sync most of the game, and you're right that the line struggled terribly.  Glad to see McSweeny was able to step up when he had to, but hope you are right that everybody shakes off the nerves and comes ready to play next week.  Lucky for us Hobart was banged up or this may not have gone our way. I give them credit for playing a consistently decent game through out and not looking intimidated.  Those officials shouldn't be allowed to work another play-off game this year.  I don't think they were biased, they were just terrible particularly with spotting the ball and messing up the flow of the game.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on November 19, 2011, 09:18:55 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 15, 2011, 09:17:36 PM
Still only Tuesday!!!!! Man I'm excited for the playoffs this year. Think there is a good chance that the purple duck will be broken in some way! Take it 1 game at a time and hopefully Wesley has quite a few left. Let's just get this week to speed up!

If by purple duck you are speaking of a UW-W/Mount Union Stagg Bowl, the duck will very likely be just fine in 2011.  One year it will be broken, but there aren't any duck hunters with enough bullets THIS year. But it is exciting to have the playoffs here and there are going to be fun inter-region games alone the way.  Enjoy!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on November 20, 2011, 08:38:45 AM
Agree with most of the above.

WesleyDad: I was sitting on the visitors side and if we are referring to the same play I thought the offensive interference call was correct. The Wesley receiver (sorry I do not remember the young mans name or number) definitely pushed off to get some separation. But, overall, I certainly concur this was not the best officiated game I've seen (!)

I must have a bit too much confidence in Wesley; despite all the negatives I never felt they would lose the game.

Ned
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2011, 08:52:00 AM
ned, i agree there was contact, my issue was that the d back was lost on the play and just got in the way of the receiver going to get the ball.  i was not as confident as you, was just annoyed that the game was much closer than it should have been.  this week will be a good game, hope it is in dover.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2011, 09:17:22 AM
anyone else do the bracket challenge.  i got 14 of 16 only lost cnu and ill wesleyen.  have a mcmurry winning this week, more wishful thinking, hoping for another home game.  some great games this weekend.  3 to choose from unless they make wesley play at linfield, hope i am in dover but if not, pawesley, i will be in your neck of the woods to see the del val - fisher game.  these second round games are so much better than usual, only uww and mount are no brainers, i think all the rest are toss ups.  should be fun chatting with the linfield fans, i will be going to their site since they have more posters.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2011, 09:49:17 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 20, 2011, 09:17:22 AM
  should be fun chatting with the linfield fans, i will be going to their site since they have more posters.

You better store up on karma!   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2011, 10:23:38 AM
nah, found out that there are a couple of whitewater people who keep hitting me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wildcat11 on November 20, 2011, 12:12:10 PM
If you would like to find out more about Linfield's program feel free to check out my blog/site that has been covering the team for the past 5 years.  Looking forward to playing a top flight team.

http://catdomealumni.blogspot.com (http://catdomealumni.blogspot.com)

or

http://www.catdomealumni.com (http://www.catdomealumni.com) (highlight videos)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2011, 01:01:30 PM
 According to the Linfield website, the second round will be settled in Dover!  I can't say I am not happy about it.   8-)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 20, 2011, 02:37:14 PM
SO glad the game's in Dover - thought I'd choke looking at the price of airfare.  Hope you guys from out west can find better deals to come root for your team.  Have a safe trip.  Looking forward to a great game, and hope we come ready to play this time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 20, 2011, 03:17:53 PM
NICE to have another game at Wesley  !!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2011, 04:33:14 PM
really really nice to have another home game in dover.  definite advantage for wesley.  linfield loses a day of game prep with the flight and the 1200 start is 900 in their body.  wesley needs to come prepared for this game.  i think they took hobart lightly and it almost cost them.  if you didnt see the linfield - cal luth game, go to the linfield website, click on football videos near the top right corner, then click "on demand" and you can watch the game.  the cal luth o looks just like wesley's and the initial thought is that mcsweeney could have a big day running the ball.  will watch the second half later to see how cal came back.  this is going to be a long week looking forward to saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2011, 05:30:03 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 20, 2011, 04:33:14 PM
really really nice to have another home game in dover.  definite advantage for wesley.  linfield loses a day of game prep with the flight and the 1200 start is 900 in their body.  wesley needs to come prepared for this game.  i think they took hobart lightly and it almost cost them.  if you didnt see the linfield - cal luth game, go to the linfield website, click on football videos near the top right corner, then click "on demand" and you can watch the game.  the cal luth o looks just like wesley's and the initial thought is that mcsweeney could have a big day running the ball.  will watch the second half later to see how cal came back.  this is going to be a long week looking forward to saturday.
I welcome other veteran travelers who have their own strategies, but I recommend that Linfield players start working on that this week.

I wonder if the Linfield Baseball coach might have some suggestions about how you handle transcontinental flights and maintaining a competitive edge.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bluenote on November 20, 2011, 05:48:42 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 20, 2011, 04:33:14 PM
really really nice to have another home game in dover.  definite advantage for wesley.  linfield loses a day of game prep with the flight and the 1200 start is 900 in their body.  wesley needs to come prepared for this game.  i think they took hobart lightly and it almost cost them.  if you didnt see the linfield - cal luth game, go to the linfield website, click on football videos near the top right corner, then click "on demand" and you can watch the game.  the cal luth o looks just like wesley's and the initial thought is that mcsweeney could have a big day running the ball.  will watch the second half later to see how cal came back.  this is going to be a long week looking forward to saturday.

Where's the Wesley / Hobart video? Or maybe you don't have internet technology there?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2011, 06:27:37 PM
sorry bluenote, we are a little behind in the tech dept.  not sure why wesley does not have video.  maybe they are trying to keep everything a secret. ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 20, 2011, 06:41:37 PM
Do I have to come out of my self imposed silence this week :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 20, 2011, 07:02:53 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 20, 2011, 06:41:37 PM
Do I have to come out of my self imposed silence this week :o


Do we need to listen for your radio interviews now??   ??? 8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 20, 2011, 08:32:46 PM
benhit2hard

Mister Bowen had better people to interview than me  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2011, 08:43:03 PM
wesley fans.  take the time to watch the video of the linfield - cal luth game.  the cal luth qb looks exactly like mcsweeney and they run a similar offense.  They put up 440+ yards on Linfield.  If the o line has a good game then I think Wesley will score and the result will fall on the defense to stop Linfield's o.  Again turnovers must be none and they have to play disciplined football, no crap personal fouls.  I did not see anything that makes me not think Wesley can win the game.  It will be a good one as they are should be at this point.  Let me know what you think if you watch it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2011, 09:07:00 PM
I watched the game live when I got home.   You are right that the LCU QB (incidentally number 10!) was just like McSweeny.  I laughed out loud.  He scrambles just like him and looks physically the same.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 20, 2011, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 20, 2011, 09:07:00 PM
I watched the game live when I got home.   You are right that the LCU QB (incidentally number 10!) was just like McSweeny.  I laughed out loud.  He scrambles just like him and looks physically the same.

-Ski

Maybe McSweeny wears a shirt under his jersey with a big red S on it.With the 3 hour time differential he may have been able to do it,,faster than a speeding bullett ????? ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Assistant Waterboy on November 20, 2011, 10:58:04 PM
  I watched the Linfield Cal Lu game while bitting my nail listening to the end of Wesley/Hobart game and did notice the Cal Qb had alot of open lanes to run in when passing but he looked slow and couldnt turn the corner on a few carries I saw. If Linfield runs the same D McSweeny will rip off bigger chunks of yards than the Cal Qb did. I have a feeling they will adjust to our strength and dial up a few more blitzs and possible put a spy on McSweeney. Also I think Koudossou needs to be on the field until he asks to be off. I heard he was in a rotation. This kid is awesome and needs more touches (stating the obvious).
  Im real excited about next weekend and will be in attendance, coming from Ohio.

Rabid biased Wesley Fan.
PS: my 1st post in a long time but have been reading d3 posts for years
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 20, 2011, 11:07:32 PM
Quote from: Assistant Waterboy on November 20, 2011, 10:58:04 PM
  I watched the Linfield Cal Lu game while bitting my nail listening to the end of Wesley/Hobart game and did notice the Cal Qb had alot of open lanes to run in when passing but he looked slow and couldnt turn the corner on a few carries I saw. If Linfield runs the same D McSweeny will rip off bigger chunks of yards than the Cal Qb did. I have a feeling they will adjust to our strength and dial up a few more blitzs and possible put a spy on McSweeney. Also I think Koudossou needs to be on the field until he asks to be off. I heard he was in a rotation. This kid is awesome and needs more touches (stating the obvious).
  Im real excited about next weekend and will be in attendance, coming from Ohio.

Rabid biased Wesley Fan.
PS: my 1st post in a long time but have been reading d3 posts for years
Heard yesterday that there may be some fan support coming in from Ohio this week!!! Welcome back to the boards!!
Koudossou is playing great and he should get more touches.  He may well be as fast as Larry Beavers .He just blew by the defenders in double coverage yeasterday
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 20, 2011, 11:19:23 PM
Well....im not gonna say anything about the Hobart game. Thats been said. Lucky we got away with the win.

Excited to see Linfield come to Wesley. But the Wolverines obviously need to bounce back from their not so good game last week. All obvious statements. Time to see Wesleys first top 10 team. Need to bring that A game!

Pa, you heard right!!!  ;D too bad its only almost Monday.  :P
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2011, 11:47:10 PM
Quote from: Assistant Waterboy on November 20, 2011, 10:58:04 PM
Rabid biased Wesley Fan.
PS: my 1st post in a long time but have been reading d3 posts for years

And a very warm welcome to the board!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bluenote on November 20, 2011, 11:54:39 PM
I think Linfield needs to contain McSweeny to be successful.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 21, 2011, 02:40:37 AM
Here's where you Independents hide!

Played the solutes (CALIFORNIA LUTHERAN as opposed to the nolutes PACIFIC LUTHERAN)
5 times in the last 2 years and probably open the season with them in 2012.
Does Wesley really think they are going to see a 3 man front?

Quotewonder if the Linfield Baseball coach might have some suggestions about how you handle transcontinental flights and maintaining a competitive edge.

Ralph, you mean the two time NATIONAL WOMEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP SOFTBALL TEAM? Oh, sure, he's the defensive backs coordinator.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2011, 02:43:12 AM
Unless Scott Brosius is no longer the baseball coach, I'm sure he means the baseball coach.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2011, 06:09:56 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 21, 2011, 02:40:37 AM
Here's where you Independents hide!

Played the solutes (CALIFORNIA LUTHERAN as opposed to the nolutes PACIFIC LUTHERAN)
5 times in the last 2 years and probably open the season with them in 2012.
Does Wesley really think they are going to see a 3 man front?

Quotewonder if the Linfield Baseball coach might have some suggestions about how you handle transcontinental flights and maintaining a competitive edge.

Ralph, you mean the two time NATIONAL WOMEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP SOFTBALL TEAM? Oh, sure, he's the defensive backs coordinator.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2011, 02:43:12 AM
Unless Scott Brosius is no longer the baseball coach, I'm sure he means the baseball coach.
Pat is right. Being a baseball guy, I was thinking of Coach Brosius.

But the d-back coordinator (as opposed to the Diamondback coordinator) is probably a good one, too. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2011, 09:27:38 AM
DOC, only mentioned it because the fact that Linfield used it so much it seemed to allow Cal to get back in the game.  Do I think they will use it much this week, not likely.  But Wesley runs a similar offense so what would make them change it.  I agree with something Ski said, the familiarity with Cal leads Linfield to do what has been successful.  It is sort of like the Wesley - Salisbury games.  Both teams know each other so well there are generally no surprises.  This game will fall heavily on coaching and which staff comes up with the right game plan.  If Linfield gets the tape from last week they will see the troubles Wesley had on offense and will game plan accordingly, expecting Wesley to make corrections to not have those problems again.  It always gets exciting when 2 good teams get to hook up when they have never played each other before.

It is a shame that you have to see Cal in the playoffs in the first round.  There are numerous teams that they would have beaten.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 21, 2011, 10:43:32 AM
Quote from: Gig Harbor Cat on November 21, 2011, 10:02:15 AM
Anybody
Anytime
Anywhere

                        CATDOME

the G5 is loaded and ready to head east to NASCAR country

Phone it in,  Let the purple frisbees fly

GHC

Is that a Pontiac G5? And are you leaving today?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2011, 12:02:50 PM
if you land and do your business, make sure you bring the litter box so you don't get arrested for doing your business on the grass. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2011, 12:26:46 PM
Quote from: Gig Harbor Cat on November 21, 2011, 11:09:57 AM
Sorry Conrad,
  Forgot we are coming to NASCAR country-- no pontiac here dude !!

We will land do our business, and move on to the next round !!

GHC
;D Now that you bring it up ... How big of a kittybox do you need?   ;D ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 21, 2011, 12:37:41 PM
+ Conrad....that's the spirit.

Is the NASCAR at Dover Downs this weekend? None of my free rooms were available no matter how I tried to fanigle
it. That added to my not making the trip.  I figured I could win back my $600 airfare. That and Thanksgiving weekend is always tough no matter how loud you turn up the volume on the live streaming and out the 2nd floor window. Somebody always gets curious where you are after 3-4 hours.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 21, 2011, 01:07:24 PM
Well Wesley's name is being smeared by a group of overzealous Wildcat fans.  It is a pretty sad thing to see, too.  No respect whatsoever.  Once again, we have no impact on the game itself, so let's see what the teams show on the field.  I think Wesley will acquit itself nicely in the field.  When it really counts, the Wolverines do an outstanding job putting together solid games.  This one will be no different.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on November 21, 2011, 01:23:26 PM
Well, I guess the "Cat" is out the bag when it comes to the Linfield posters. No class at all. I believe you can make great points on why you feel as though Linfield is going to win, but show some class behind it.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 21, 2011, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2011, 12:26:46 PM
Quote from: Gig Harbor Cat on November 21, 2011, 11:09:57 AM
Sorry Conrad,
  Forgot we are coming to NASCAR country-- no pontiac here dude !!

We will land do our business, and move on to the next round !!

GHC
;D Now that you bring it up ... How big of a kittybox do you need?   ;D ;)

There is quite a bit of sand about 45 miles south of Dover in Dewey and Rehoboth.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 21, 2011, 02:32:56 PM
When at my former employer we always got this from 1st time teams to play us,,it was usually "they haven't played anyone like us" and we are coming to town ,,so it is kind of ironic,,because they may not have played anyone like us(Wesley) either.

Looking forward to a good game,,GOOOOOO WOLVERINES !!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wrdad on November 21, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
Quote from: Gig Harbor Cat on November 21, 2011, 01:16:23 PM
Consider that wesley  scraped by a non ranked team in the first round, They had better strap up and be ready for the Wildcat beatdown that is on the way !!   

By the way, just how many National Championships does wesleyville have ??

This one is in the bank boys
Phone it in

GHC

man how about having some respect GHC... It's one thing to be making these childish comments on your board, but when you start to bring it to another board, your getting no respect from me!!!

Maybe the ncaa reads these boards and sees how immature most of the linfield fans are, so they let the team have it by going cross country in the 2nd round ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 21, 2011, 03:45:09 PM
GHC is calling SUADC a wuss?  Talk about the pot meeting the kettle.  Nothing more wussy than being an ass on a posting board behind a computer screen.  Bring all the Karma snipers you want. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 21, 2011, 04:06:00 PM
Guys, our staff and our team have class. FANatics pay the bills.
Don't suppose any of you are Eagles season ticket holders and police your section.

So, Conrad....Dewey bring our own ingredients and mixtures for tailgating  or will you Rehoboth?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bluenote on November 21, 2011, 04:13:07 PM
Jeez...you guys need some thicker skin....you're lucky you aren't playing St. Johns.....you'd be peeing your pants by now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on November 21, 2011, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: Bluenote on November 21, 2011, 04:13:07 PM
Jeez...you guys need some thicker skin....you're lucky you aren't playing St. Johns.....you'd be peeing your pants by now.

The South Region boards, by and large, do not get the trash talk that many other boards have. Occassionally it pops up, but mostly it just isn't done. Most of us prefer to keep it that way. It's nothing to do with being thin skinned, just a preference to talk football instead of vomiting out some nonsense designed to provoke people you never have, and probably never will, meet.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bluenote on November 21, 2011, 04:28:31 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 21, 2011, 04:17:58 PM
The South Region boards, by and large, do not get the trash talk that many other boards have. Occassionally it pops up, but mostly it just isn't done. Most of us prefer to keep it that way. It's nothing to do with being thin skinned, just a preference to talk football instead of vomiting out some nonsense designed to provoke people you never have, and probably never will, meet.

OK, I have no problem talking football...then where is the video of the Hobart/Wesley game....I'd like to see it just like you can go on the Linfield site and see the CLU/Linfield game from last week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on November 21, 2011, 04:37:30 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 21, 2011, 01:07:24 PM
Well Wesley's name is being smeared by a group of overzealous Wildcat fans.  It is a pretty sad thing to see, too.  No respect whatsoever.  Once again, we have no impact on the game itself, so let's see what the teams show on the field.  I think Wesley will acquit itself nicely in the field.  When it really counts, the Wolverines do an outstanding job putting together solid games.  This one will be no different.

-Ski

Teamski, Wesleydad,

Your team has a tough one this Saturday with Linfield. Any early thoughts about the game. Also, Congrats Wesleydad on the OAC pickems, keep it going! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 21, 2011, 04:54:20 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on November 21, 2011, 04:37:30 PM

Teamski, Wesleydad,

Your team has a tough one this Saturday with Linfield. Any early thoughts about the game. Also, Congrats Wesleydad on the OAC pickems, keep it going! :)

I'm expecting a close game with Wesley's offense being close to what CLU had on tap. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2011, 05:10:02 PM
raider68,  after watching the video of the game this weekend, I saw 2 good teams in a close game.  I saw nothing that Linfield does offensively that has me worried about big plays like Salisbury does.  Wesley will have to stop the run and get pressure from the front 4.  They will need Linfield to have to go on long drives.  The defense is very quick and aggressive.  They had trouble with the Cal qb and his running which does not go well for them this Saturday.  McSweeney is as good as any with that.  I expect a really close football game that will likely turn on turnovers.  Wesley will have to be disciplined, but I see no reason why they don't win this game.  It may be higher scoring than some would think.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2011, 05:19:59 PM
Wow 
I am impressed. Most of the mud slinging that you think has been tossed at Wesley fans has in fact been spewn on fans from other teams that have come to repsect Wesley. We have 6 maybe 7 main posters in here from Wesley. We can give it back as well as anyone if we wish but usually we take the high road!! The trash talking really doenms't bother us unless it gets personal which in years past has happened. But when you thump teams in the playoffs that tends to shut up their fans!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2011, 06:32:21 PM
 I do have a few thoughts on why Wesley had a bit of a down day against Hobart.  Wesley had been playing playoff games every week after the Kean loss. They beat a very talented Huntingdon team soundly and easily the week before. And lastly the unfortunate happenings with Ben Knapps emergency . IMHO after the Huntingdon game was the first time they had a chance to relax and I am sure that had some effect on their performance.  Hobart going toe to toe with them and the turnovers that kept the game close , along with the penalties should shake up the troops for this weeks game!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 21, 2011, 06:52:36 PM
Quoteit just isn't done

Well, our new friends straddling the Mason-Dixon line with the East / South identity crisis you CAN get this on-line:


http://www.jimrome.com/pages/smackoff (http://www.jimrome.com/pages/smackoff)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on November 21, 2011, 07:09:04 PM
I have not seen this much smack talk on the south board over the 6 yrs i been following it. Where i live (7 miles out side of the Auburn, Al) the talk has hit a fever pitch. Folk around here have been known to fight thier brother, shoot neighbors, kill each others livestock...even poison helpless Oak trees. >:(

My oldest (an Auburn Graduate) and her husband (a bama graduate....if u can say graduate while speaking of bama) have not spoken to each other since saturday night... happens every year

A little west coast smack talk, by comparison, is ok ;D
So.........Wesley open up a can of whup a$$ and drop the pimp hammer on the head them Left Coast Yankees
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2011, 07:58:08 PM
pawesleyfan, i agree with your thoughts.  I was thinking on similar lines and I just think they are human and young and took Hobart for granted and it almost cost them.  I dont think that will happen this week and I expect them to come out playing as they should.  Will it be good enough to win, we will see on Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2011, 09:29:13 PM
gig, it would be hard to have a nitemare about Linfield since Wesley has never played them before.  Since I have some friends at Mount Union I have already seen a championshil ring, worn by a much classier person.  too bad you didn't change your picture to a donkey, it would have been a much more accurate portrayal.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 21, 2011, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Gig Harbor Cat on November 21, 2011, 09:40:51 PM

SPELLCHECK YOUR BAD SELF[/size]

You might want to learn how to spell championship, before taking the field to try and win one.

Says the person unable to use the html tags. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2011, 09:48:02 PM
Try to win one, not try and win one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Upstate on November 21, 2011, 10:01:10 PM
When these Linfield guys talk is anyone else having visions of that scene in Varsity Blues where those two old guys in letter men jackets are at the High School party after a game?

I mean seriously, you're not lining up on SatErday so lets tone it down a bit and not be such douche bags.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2011, 10:24:02 PM
 How many more times are you going to have to edit Gig???? Can't you complete one thought or are the other voices getting you confused
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2011, 10:48:09 PM
gig, just in case you didnt get it, the donkey has nothing to do with your possible political affiliation.  more towards the fact that you are a jackass.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2011, 11:11:02 PM
never spent time doing film breakdown, leave that up to the coaches.  it would seem that Linfield uses the spread offense.  not that it really matters what it is called, they like most teams use multiple formations. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: K-Mack on November 21, 2011, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 21, 2011, 09:29:13 PM
gig, it would be hard to have a nitemare about Linfield since Wesley has never played them before.  Since I have some friends at Mount Union I have already seen a championshil ring, worn by a much classier person.  too bad you didn't change your picture to a donkey, it would have been a much more accurate portrayal.

sick comeback.

Too bad the trash talk got worse from here.

(eats popcorn, has no horse in the race)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2011, 11:29:32 PM
Aw Kmack now I want popcorn!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2011, 11:33:00 PM
Gig

Effexor gets rid of the extra voices!!! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 21, 2011, 11:45:21 PM
Oh, I believe wesleydad did mean championshill.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2011, 11:49:55 PM
Quote from: Gig Harbor Cat on November 21, 2011, 11:41:12 PM
K-Mack

Is there going to be a video feed on Sat by D3 ?

It's still the plan, just as it was yesterday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: LuavilleCat on November 22, 2011, 12:43:56 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 21, 2011, 10:48:09 PM
gig, just in case you didnt get it, the donkey has nothing to do with your possible political affiliation.  more towards the fact that you are a jackass.

Speaking of jack's magna cum laude ass, I bet you're just like his smart-ass. It wouldn't surprise me if you could sit on a tub of ice cream and tell me what flavor it is.

Have a good day.

GO CATS
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2011, 01:08:50 AM
Once again, another Wildcat fan shows his lack of class.  With nothing original or constructive to say, he has to pop on the forum to squirt out some more drivel before vanishing behind his keyboard.  Incredible.   

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 22, 2011, 01:10:57 AM
About those LINFIELD 6-3 seasons 2006 - 07 – 08.......

Between 2000 and 2005 LINFIELD was 49-6.

The coach left after the 2005 season to join his high school friend who was Oregon State head coach (and also an ex-LINFIELD coach).

In 2006 we lost to eventual NWC champ Whitworth 14-17, at home. We had 16 first downs to their 5, 126 yards rushing to their 34, 203 yards passing to their 51. We lost though. We also added losses to Division II Western Oregon, 14-28, in our house and Hardin Simmons, 6-21, down in Texas.

In 2007 we lost to Whitworth 6-10 at their place. We had 16 first downs to their 10, 240 yards passing to their 112, but they out ran us 83-127. We had 6 penalties for 70 yards. We wouldn't have been in line for the playoffs had we won because we managed to let Willamette beat us as well, 32-33. We did get back at Hardin Simmons at home, 52-42. We lost away at Division II Western Oregon, 20-32.

2008 started off poorly when we lost starting qb Aaron Boheme, (8-13, 116 yds.) for the season early in the game. We lost again to HSU in Texas, 22-29, to open the season. Willamette would eventually win the NWC after "taking us apart" 28-52. We had 25 first downs to their 17, out-passed them 232 to 116, but they got us on the ground 227-268. The 5 penalties for 60 yards killed us. Division II Western Oregon got by us at home 9-17.

There you have it. We were disappointed for 3 years, but not embarrassed.

Since 2009 we have gone back to being 31-3. (and Aaron Boheme came back to be an All-American qb)

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Assistant Waterboy on November 22, 2011, 03:25:29 AM
Thanks for putting Linfield in red. I dont know what that means but its a nice effect. I also dont why your spewing that info but thanks for letting us know that history. I get it, you think your teams gonna win. Congrats for drinking the purple coolaid. Im drinking the blue. Im glad the kids will handle this on the field because it dont matter what I think or you think anyway. Now Im going to put a bunch of spaces between sentences for affect.


Go Wolverines


Go Wesley


Go Linfield


Go Catdome.... Is that like Kingdome? Or do you have like big fieldhouse?



Now the color and caps



CATDOME     






Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2011, 07:31:57 AM
DOC, nice explanation for the losses.  Would they be excuses or just the reasons you believe that Linfield got beat.  Sort of reads like my explanations for what happened to Wesley against Kean in the lose and against Hobart this past weekend.  Like I said I guess it is all how you look at it.  I prefer honest comments about why a team lost or had a closer game than expected.  They will generally be slanted to the side the writer was watching the game, but I have always heard that the winner gets to write the history.

Pat, who is going to be in Dover if you have the podcast?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2011, 07:38:54 AM
so I dont get accused of not talking football, gig, the name "pistol" or "spread" mean the same thing.  Check the capsule for Linfield in the preview and D3 listed the offense as the spread also.  Again, in the end, most teams use so many different formations and use so many different names for them that what they are called only matters to that team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 22, 2011, 08:03:09 AM

D.O.C.

The last time I saw film(video) of Linfield they were big into the fly sweep offense,,,I have not coached d3 since 05,,was that do to the coaching change or is it still a part of the O ??or was it willamette that ran it ,,memory short, hence the name
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2011, 08:30:04 AM
Thanks D.O.C. for your 6-3 explanation.  I sincerely appreciate your take on recent Linfield history.  At least you are making an attempt at some dialogue.  +k.  You can see our pride in that during that same period, Wesley's fortunes fared much better.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2011, 09:19:57 AM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on November 22, 2011, 08:03:09 AM


D.O.C.

The last time I saw film(video) of Linfield they were big into the fly sweep offense,,,I have not coached d3 since 05,,was that do to the coaching change or is it still a part of the O ??
Are you confusing Willamette's "Fly" for Linfield's offense in that time period?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 22, 2011, 10:03:09 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 22, 2011, 07:31:57 AM
DOC, nice explanation for the losses.  Would they be excuses or just the reasons you believe that Linfield got beat.  Sort of reads like my explanations for what happened to Wesley against Kean in the lose and against Hobart this past weekend.  Like I said I guess it is all how you look at it.  I prefer honest comments about why a team lost or had a closer game than expected.  They will generally be slanted to the side the writer was watching the game, but I have always heard that the winner gets to write the history.

Pat, who is going to be in Dover if you have the podcast?

It will be Frank Rossi and Keith McMillan.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: LuavilleCat on November 22, 2011, 10:03:53 AM
Ski, my man, rather than insult me with your diatribe, you guys need to go work on your car... the nuts around your driveshaft are way too tight. Loosen them up baby!

This is the time to give thanks. Be thankful the Wolverines are still playing football this week, but it too shall come to pass.... "Inns takes a two-step drop, looks left, spots Jepson wide open on the far sideline, fires deep.... TOUCHDOWN WILDCATS. My Oh My."

Kiss your wife before dinner tonight. Find peace.

GO CATS
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 22, 2011, 10:56:54 AM
Quote from: LuavilleCat on November 22, 2011, 10:03:53 AM
you guys need to go work on your car... the nuts around your driveshaft are way too tight. Loosen them up baby!


You lose any credibility after this statement.  Really?  What are we 14?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Knightstalker on November 22, 2011, 11:10:45 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 22, 2011, 10:56:54 AM
Quote from: LuavilleCat on November 22, 2011, 10:03:53 AM
you guys need to go work on your car... the nuts around your driveshaft are way too tight. Loosen them up baby!


You lose any credibility after this statement.  Really?  What are we 14?

Yeah, take that back before my dad kicks your dads ass!   >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 22, 2011, 11:15:21 AM
Getting back to actual football talk, a PP mentioned that Wesley's poor performance last week could be due to a bit of a let down after the regular season, since every game had felt like a play-off game and the emotional toll of the Knapp health issues.  On a related note - at times I thought the play calling was a little disjointed, perhaps even alternating between beting a bit over thought and then too predictable.  Which coach was calling the plays last week?  Could there have been any adjustment period needed to get everyone back in sync?  Don't get me wrong - not trying to make excuses for the performance, or throw stones at anybody, just curious for the perspective of anyone closer to the team.

Having watched the Linfield game video, I think they're a good team but it's up to us to bring our A game this time and stop killing ourselves with the stupid penalites and lack of focus.  I don't think they can beat us, but we could beat ourselves.

Really looking forward to Saturday's game and to seeing Linfield in person - let's see who's still talking trash come Saturday night.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bluenote on November 22, 2011, 11:26:19 AM
I think Hobart may have been the main reason you didn't do as well as expected. In fact from what is reported, they were without their starting qb and best receiver.... and drove down to your 5 yard line at the end of the game in position to tie or win the game. Plus the massive amounts of personal fouls and penalties didn't help you either.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 22, 2011, 11:49:00 AM
QuoteI think Hobart may have been the main reason you didn't do as well as expected. In fact from what is reported, they were without their starting qb and best receiver.... and drove down to your 5 yard line at the end of the game in position to tie or win the game. Plus the massive amounts of personal fouls and penalties didn't help you either.

They were a good team, and deserve a lot of credit for their performance - they were well prepared and took advantage of our weaknesses to throw us off our game.  Lucky for us they were banged up or we may not have come away with the win given our lackluster play.  But I also know Wesley is a better team than we showed last week.  I think the key really is what WE do rather than what the other team does in these early rounds of the play-offs. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 22, 2011, 11:49:51 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 21, 2011, 04:06:00 PM
Guys, our staff and our team have class. FANatics pay the bills.
Don't suppose any of you are Eagles season ticket holders and police your section.

So, Conrad....Dewey bring our own ingredients and mixtures for tailgating  or will you Rehoboth?

Bring 20 bucks first of all. That will get you in the lot. Stop at a local beverage store and buy some Dogfishhead (My personal favorite, and their pub is in Rehoboth.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wrdad on November 22, 2011, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: wrdad on November 21, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
Quote from: Gig Harbor Cat on November 21, 2011, 01:16:23 PM
Consider that wesley  scraped by a non ranked team in the first round, They had better strap up and be ready for the Wildcat beatdown that is on the way !!   

By the way, just how many National Championships does wesleyville have ??

This one is in the bank boys
Phone it in

GHC

man how about having some respect GHC... It's one thing to be making these childish comments on your board, but when you start to bring it to another board, your getting no respect from me!!!

Maybe the ncaa reads these boards and sees how immature most of the linfield fans are, so they let the team have it by going cross country in the 2nd round ;)

I don't know what happened but I think GHC deleted some of his posts on here.... some linfield fan said earlier that linfield has 4 national championships??? My question is, how many national championships does linfield have in D3??? Who cares about D2
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Upstate on November 22, 2011, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: wrdad on November 22, 2011, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: wrdad on November 21, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
Quote from: Gig Harbor Cat on November 21, 2011, 01:16:23 PM
Consider that wesley  scraped by a non ranked team in the first round, They had better strap up and be ready for the Wildcat beatdown that is on the way !!   

By the way, just how many National Championships does wesleyville have ??

This one is in the bank boys
Phone it in

GHC

man how about having some respect GHC... It's one thing to be making these childish comments on your board, but when you start to bring it to another board, your getting no respect from me!!!

Maybe the ncaa reads these boards and sees how immature most of the linfield fans are, so they let the team have it by going cross country in the 2nd round ;)

I don't know what happened but I think GHC deleted some of his posts on here.... some linfield fan said earlier that linfield has 4 national championships??? My question is, how many national championships does linfield have in D3??? Who cares about D2

It's not even D2, it's D2 NAIA...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2011, 12:50:58 PM
Quote from: wrdad on November 22, 2011, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: wrdad on November 21, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
Quote from: Gig Harbor Cat on November 21, 2011, 01:16:23 PM
Consider that wesley  scraped by a non ranked team in the first round, They had better strap up and be ready for the Wildcat beatdown that is on the way !!   

By the way, just how many National Championships does wesleyville have ??

This one is in the bank boys
Phone it in

GHC

man how about having some respect GHC... It's one thing to be making these childish comments on your board, but when you start to bring it to another board, your getting no respect from me!!!

Maybe the ncaa reads these boards and sees how immature most of the linfield fans are, so they let the team have it by going cross country in the 2nd round ;)

I don't know what happened but I think GHC deleted some of his posts on here.... some linfield fan said earlier that linfield has 4 national championships??? My question is, how many national championships does linfield have in D3??? Who cares about D2
Yes, Gig Harbor Cat deleted several posts. The one that was copied was especially sedate and tranquil.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 22, 2011, 12:54:02 PM
QuoteDOC, nice explanation for the losses.  Would they be excuses or just the reasons you believe that Linfield got beat
.

Hey, somebody threw in a mention of LINFIELD's recent 6-3 seasons.

QuoteOnce again, we have no impact on the game itself, so let's see what the teams show on the field
.

Teamski, I guess you never stay up late enough to see a U of Oregon game on TV where every announcer says the roar of the fans does make a difference in the game. So we're mice that roar.....
I don't suppose any Wesley player reads these boards because the staff has told them not to.  ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 22, 2011, 01:29:53 PM
wesleydad....watch this first game of the season (On Demand) http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/linfield.portal# (http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/linfield.portal#) between LINFIELD and California Lutheran and let us know what you think.
Understand if you do not even care to, being tired of us and all. Just remember, we cannot come to the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: RedandPurple on November 22, 2011, 04:38:26 PM
Be True To Your School lyrics
Songwriters: Wilson, Brian; Love, Mike;

When some loud braggart tries to put me down
And says his school is great, I tell him right away
"Now what's the matter buddy
Ain't you heard of my school?
It's number one in the state"

So be true to your school
Just like you would to your girl or guy
Be true to your school now
And let your colors fly
Be true to your school
  ;)

GO CATS!

Safe travels to all. No injuries and Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2011, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 22, 2011, 12:54:02 PM
QuoteDOC, nice explanation for the losses.  Would they be excuses or just the reasons you believe that Linfield got beat
.

Hey, somebody threw in a mention of LINFIELD's recent 6-3 seasons.

QuoteOnce again, we have no impact on the game itself, so let's see what the teams show on the field
.

Teamski, I guess you never stay up late enough to see a U of Oregon game on TV where every announcer says the roar of the fans does make a difference in the game. So we're mice that roar.....
I don't suppose any Wesley player reads these boards because the staff has told them not to.  ::)

Yep, I watched the game.  And the Scott D. Miller stadium seats a whopping 2500 people, so I don't think that the crowd noise drowns out too many snap counts (with the exception of the fire department siren next to the field).  Whether or not the players actually check these boards doesn't make a whole lotta difference. Their minds are on the X's and O's.  Practice this week is intense, so they are pretty much occupied by that and getting ready for the finals coming up.  This is one reason why I don't go overboard on the forum:  I'm simply not that hung up on my impact on the game as others seem to think they are:  the game plays itself and I just tag along for the ride.

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: RedandPurple on November 22, 2011, 05:00:41 PM
Very unfortunate. Reminds us all football is just a game.

Arkansas Razorbacks football player Garrett Uekman dies at age 19
Published: Sunday, November 20, 2011, 4:59 PM     Updated: Sunday, November 20, 2011, 9:03 PM
 
By The Associated Press

FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. -- Arkansas' football team was in mourning Sunday following the death of backup tight end Garrett Uekman.
The university said Uekman was pronounced dead at Washington Regional Medical Center in Fayetteville on Sunday.
The cause of death wasn't immediately known, but the university said Uekman was found unconscious and unresponsive in his dorm room on campus at approximately 11:15 a.m. Sunday. He was last seen playing video games by a roommate approximately an hour earlier.

Read the whole story here:  http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/11/arkansas_razorbacks_football_p.html
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2011, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 22, 2011, 01:29:53 PM
wesleydad....watch this first game of the season (On Demand) http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/linfield.portal# (http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/linfield.portal#) between LINFIELD and California Lutheran and let us know what you think.
Understand if you do not even care to, being tired of us and all. Just remember, we cannot come to the game.

If he wasn't busy being heckled by the Wildkitten booser team in the back row, he would care enough to check it out.  And, I'm sure he will.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2011, 05:36:51 PM
DOC, I did not even consider the crowd noise while I was watching the game.  I do remember the announcers saying here comes our crowd and I did hear a pretty loud roar.  Since they never showed the home stands I had know idea that the were not that crowded.  This is going to be a long week and I may check out the first game between the 2 to see if I see anything different from last weeks game.  You do not have to sell me on the Linfield program in the least, I have been aware of you since Wesley started showing up in the top 10 and as I stated before, my son wished he had played you at some point because of the programs rep.  Not sure if we could have made the trip but would have done what we could to get there.

Redandpurple, saw that the other day, really said anytime a young person goes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MonroviaCat on November 22, 2011, 05:45:54 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 22, 2011, 05:36:51 PM
DOC, I did not even consider the crowd noise while I was watching the game.  I do remember the announcers saying here comes our crowd and I did hear a pretty loud roar.  Since they never showed the home stands I had know idea that the were not that crowded.  This is going to be a long week and I may check out the first game between the 2 to see if I see anything different from last weeks game.  You do not have to sell me on the Linfield program in the least, I have been aware of you since Wesley started showing up in the top 10 and as I stated before, my son wished he had played you at some point because of the programs rep.  Not sure if we could have made the trip but would have done what we could to get there.

Redandpurple, saw that the other day, really said anytime a young person goes.
I think what DOC wants you to see is the pressure on the CLU QB and the 5 sacks--different approach than we took this past weekend. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2011, 06:03:43 PM
Monrovia, ok, I will likely check into it.  I believe that was one of the questions that I had watching the game last week.  It seemed that Linfield was ok with allowing the QB to run.  If that is because they were able to throw then the adjustment worked.  Each week is a new situation.  Wesley certainly posses some issues with mcsweeney's ability to run and I am sure that Linfield will come up with a plan they hope works.  5 sacks is a lot.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Andy Jamison on November 22, 2011, 06:08:01 PM
As a former Linfield player (1990-93) I'd like to apologize for the several Wildcat supporters who obviously never played a down for the program OR if they did they never understood that we took/take great pride in being a classy program.  We don't talk trash on the field.  If you did/do you are doing bear crawls on Monday.  It irks me to have some of these posters be the internet board "Faces/Voices" of our program.  I assure you they represent a minority of the people associated with our program.

I have looked forward to the opportunity to play Wesley since the mid 00's when they started making deep runs into the D3 playoffs.  We have the luxury in D3 to actually settle things on the field which is wonderful.

I always say that play off games come down to 2 things - penalties and turnovers. 

Good luck to both teams!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Andy Jamison on November 22, 2011, 06:14:25 PM
I'd certainly hope that we adjust our scheme for Saturday as your quarterback looks to be very adept at tucking and running.  I believe with CLU we were first worried about stopping their RB Mosier who in 2010 went for over 200 yards in a half against us.  Our next concern had to be stopping Rogers who has had 2 great games against us (over 200 yards in last year's playoff game).  I'm guessing that CLUs quarterback hadn't scrambled for a lot of yardage during the season given that he was a drop back passer.  He turned out to be really mobile which looks to have been a surprise for our defense.  We probably chose to pick our poison and have him run versus letting the passing game be that much easier.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: RedandPurple on November 22, 2011, 06:48:17 PM
Quote from: Andy Jamison on November 22, 2011, 06:08:01 PM
As a former Linfield player (1990-93) I'd like to apologize for the several Wildcat supporters who obviously never played a down for the program OR if they did they never understood that we took/take great pride in being a classy program.  We don't talk trash on the field.  If you did/do you are doing bear crawls on Monday.  It irks me to have some of these posters be the internet board "Faces/Voices" of our program.  I assure you they represent a minority of the people associated with our program.

I have looked forward to the opportunity to play Wesley since the mid 00's when they started making deep runs into the D3 playoffs.  We have the luxury in D3 to actually settle things on the field which is wonderful.

I always say that play off games come down to 2 things - penalties and turnovers. 

Good luck to both teams!

I can attest to this. As a Linfield player my son's attitude was to let your play do the talking. He saw no reason to trash talk and he never accepted it from the other team either. As parents my wife and I were always treated with respect by the coaches, staff, and the Wildcat players. GO CATS!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 22, 2011, 06:53:47 PM
 

  It seems that both teams have similar playoff history,both have 13 wins(from what I could find) in the playoffs so they should be ready to play and the staffs are playoff tested.It should be a Great game,,two teams that realy do not know each other,other than from film work.Once the game starts you will find out more things such as skill level,physical toughness, strength,and the ability to make personal adjustments to your oppnent.The first quarter should be the time this will come to play,,then it should be a GREAT Game,,,inspite of what we all have to say on here.The last time I made a tackle or threw a block was 1962,so I know I will not have any affect or effect on the game .But, I will enjoy it and learn some football from it. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2011, 07:45:46 PM
Quote from: Andy Jamison on November 22, 2011, 06:08:01 PM
As a former Linfield player (1990-93) I'd like to apologize for the several Wildcat supporters who obviously never played a down for the program OR if they did they never understood that we took/take great pride in being a classy program.  We don't talk trash on the field.  If you did/do you are doing bear crawls on Monday.  It irks me to have some of these posters be the internet board "Faces/Voices" of our program.  I assure you they represent a minority of the people associated with our program.

I have looked forward to the opportunity to play Wesley since the mid 00's when they started making deep runs into the D3 playoffs.  We have the luxury in D3 to actually settle things on the field which is wonderful.

I always say that play off games come down to 2 things - penalties and turnovers. 

Good luck to both teams!

+1K!  You will find that we Wesley fans respect Linfield's program quite a bit.   It will be one hell of a game on Saturday, with the weather looking to be perfect!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 22, 2011, 08:05:21 PM
QuoteI think what DOC wants you to see is the pressure on the CLU QB and the 5 sacks--different approach than we took this past weekend.
True. Thank-you.
Crowd noise being a factor was not my point, fan base was.

Guru P.C. did not give you the video news yet?

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/division-iii-football-playoffs (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/division-iii-football-playoffs)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2011, 09:41:17 PM
andy, thanks for the info on why Linfield may have changed their approach this past week.  I agree the QB looked pretty good at running the ball for a drop back passer.  Also, I generally go by the 10% rule in life, 90% of all the people I meet or deal with will be fine people and the other 10% will be @#@#$$ holes.  Don't usually let them annoy me.

beenhit2hard, you bring a whole nuther perspective to this.  Having been a member of one of the best programs in the history of D3 you certainly should be listened to when it comes to what is needed to win it all.  I will be looking forward to seeing you at the game and hearing what you think.  Wesley has struggled in past playoff losses when they looked out-prepared by the opponents.  I know that the coaches work as hard as any other staff does in film prep and planning it has not always panned out on the field.  I hope they dial up the right plan this weekend because after listening to all the drivel and crap, I would really like to see them lay a whoopin on Linfield.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 22, 2011, 10:29:58 PM
It stopped.
Now you prime the pump?

best programs in the history of D3 is drivel and crap

Show me the ring.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MonroviaCat on November 22, 2011, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: Andy Jamison on November 22, 2011, 06:14:25 PM
I'd certainly hope that we adjust our scheme for Saturday as your quarterback looks to be very adept at tucking and running.  I believe with CLU we were first worried about stopping their RB Mosier who in 2010 went for over 200 yards in a half against us.  Our next concern had to be stopping Rogers who has had 2 great games against us (over 200 yards in last year's playoff game).  I'm guessing that CLUs quarterback hadn't scrambled for a lot of yardage during the season given that he was a drop back passer.  He turned out to be really mobile which looks to have been a surprise for our defense.  We probably chose to pick our poison and have him run versus letting the passing game be that much easier.
I would disagree with the part about Linfield's D being suprised by the mobility of the CLU QB--he did similar damage in week 1 and being the teams leading rusher if you take away the yards lost on sacks.  He also busted a few other would-be sacks where defenders couldn't wrap him up and bring him down.  I think last weekend, the strategy was to give him the running yards but prevent him from throwing it down field for big gains (which was somewhat successful but.....maybe not as good as sacking him 5 times :) )
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bluenote on November 22, 2011, 10:42:54 PM
OK...there has been much speculation about the NCAA DIII Playoff Bracket Pairings....here is my idea and I would like your comments to refine it:

Here's an idea:

Take the top 4 teams and put them in 4 different brackets as #1 seeds. Then take the next 8 top teams (according to d3football.com poll...since they know better than any other poll/body) and divide them 2 each per bracket (it doesn't really matter after 4 because everybody after that point is pretty equal)... with those 2 teams in one side of the bracket, so the top team would supposedly play the winner of those 2 if they made it that far....then sprinkle all the other qualifier teams according to region in the 4 brackets....problem solved.   ???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: RedandPurple on November 22, 2011, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Bluenote on November 22, 2011, 10:42:54 PM
OK...there has been much speculation about the NCAA DIII Playoff Bracket Pairings....here is my idea and I would like your comments to refine it:

Here's an idea:

Take the top 4 teams and put them in 4 different brackets as #1 seeds. Then take the next 8 top teams (according to d3football.com poll...since they know better than any other poll/body) and divide them 2 each per bracket (it doesn't really matter after 4 because everybody after that point is pretty equal)... with those 2 teams in one side of the bracket, so the top team would supposedly play the winner of those 2 if they made it that far....then sprinkle all the other qualifier teams according to region in the 4 brackets....problem solved.   ???

Sounds good Blue. Send it off to the ncaa committee.  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: RedandPurple on November 22, 2011, 10:48:13 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 22, 2011, 10:29:58 PM
It stopped.
Now you prime the pump?

best programs in the history of D3 is drivel and crap

Show me the ring.

Gotta agree with you.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2011, 10:51:54 PM
DOC, as far as beenhit2hard goes and his being a part of one of the best programs in the history of D3 football is without question, he was not affiliated with Wesley.  If he chooses to I will let him tell you which program I was talking about.  I figure he likely has a couple of rings.  What stopped, the useless drivel and crap from Linfield posters?  As far as accusing me of priming the pump now, I dont think anyone is surprised that I would like to see Wesley lay a whoopin on Linfield.  Apparently after all the inane and assinine comments made by some Linfield posters some others who have only been reading along feel the same way.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2011, 11:07:06 PM
Quote from: Bluenote on November 22, 2011, 10:42:54 PM
OK...there has been much speculation about the NCAA DIII Playoff Bracket Pairings....here is my idea and I would like your comments to refine it:

Here's an idea:

Take the top 4 teams and put them in 4 different brackets as #1 seeds. Then take the next 8 top teams (according to d3football.com poll...since they know better than any other poll/body) and divide them 2 each per bracket (it doesn't really matter after 4 because everybody after that point is pretty equal)... with those 2 teams in one side of the bracket, so the top team would supposedly play the winner of those 2 if they made it that far....then sprinkle all the other qualifier teams according to region in the 4 brackets....problem solved.   ???
Please describe the mechanism by which the Top 4 teams are decided.

Does it involve a computer ranking?

Does it involve people?

Who selects the people to sit on the panel?

What is their expertise and familiarity with the process or the teams or the relative strengths?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 22, 2011, 11:13:05 PM
Good luck getting that out of him, Ralph.

                                                            $ KAH-CHING $
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 22, 2011, 11:20:45 PM
wesleydad

  I tried to tell them that there were only 5 or 6 of us Wesley posters and the rest were friends of the program!!! But they don't read the whole post i guess!!

Come on beenhit2hard give em a lesson.

I think Linfield should give Mc Sweeney a little room to run!!!! LOL!!! Look at the plays of the week froma few weeks back and watch what the kid can do in the open field!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bluenote on November 22, 2011, 11:21:23 PM
It would be the top 4 teams on the d3football.com poll. Simple. Who would disagree? Not anybody that doesn't know the division.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MonroviaCat on November 23, 2011, 12:02:05 AM
Quote from: Bluenote on November 22, 2011, 11:21:23 PM
It would be the top 4 teams on the d3football.com poll. Simple. Who would disagree? Not anybody that doesn't know the division.
ha ha blue--you've obviously never red the top 25 discussion board! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 23, 2011, 02:53:51 AM
This week is going by so slow!!! Excited for the game this weekend and will be making the trip out to Dover. Early forcast calls for sunny and 62. Will be a good one. All this talk on the boards is getting me pumped up.  ;D Wesley has overcome a lot to get to this point. Last year was the same way.

About the game I will say that Linfield must make an adjustment so that McSweeny will have to beat them with his arm. Or else he will take full advantage of his running ability, and could very well end up rushing 100 yards or more, and it will be a long day for the Linfield D.

Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 23, 2011, 05:44:13 AM
Agreed! And should he get intercepted I wonder if the offense can cut down the return.
What fun....for us.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2011, 08:39:39 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 23, 2011, 05:44:13 AM
Agreed! And should he get intercepted I wonder if the offense can cut down the return.
What fun....for us.

Well, we are lucky that McSweeny can pass the ball as well.  I think that will have a big impact on the game.  What opens lanes for his runs are the gaps left by the LB's trying to cover the receivers.  Note the 5 passing TDs in the last game.  The man has an arm.  ;)


-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 23, 2011, 11:03:28 AM
Ski is right! He can block too  ;)

And amidst all this "banter" (is that the word for it?), and karma sniping, I would like to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving, and to have safe travels! I will see some of you this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 23, 2011, 01:13:45 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 22, 2011, 10:29:58 PM
It stopped.
Now you prime the pump?

best programs in the history of D3 is drivel and crap

Show me the ring.

D.O.C.,,I can't show you A ring,,if i knew how to post pictures I could show you the  7,(seven) NCAA Championships that I recieved as  a coach from a pretty good program,, but I am tech challenged ,,  so you have to take my word for it. MUC or now UMU plays some good football and if you have the knowledge of D# football,you would know that.

Pa and wesleydad,, thanks for your support

I really hate to play the RING CARD
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 23, 2011, 01:20:04 PM
I would have responded earlier but I was off watching Salisbury practice,,never to old to learn,,if I can remember what I saw!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 23, 2011, 02:00:28 PM
beenhit2hard....I kiss your ring seven times.  I did not 'get it' and I should have recognized your handle from the OAC board, WHICH, I do not venture to until December.
This year could be different.

                                            THANKSGIVING BLESSINGS TO ALL
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2011, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 23, 2011, 11:03:28 AM
Ski is right! He can block too  ;)

And amidst all this "banter" (is that the word for it?), and karma sniping, I would like to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving, and to have safe travels! I will see some of you this weekend.

Have a safe trip!!  We'll see you on Sunny Saturday!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 23, 2011, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 23, 2011, 02:00:28 PM
beenhit2hard....I kiss your ring seven times.  I did not 'get it' and I should have recognized your handle from the OAC board, WHICH, I do not venture to until December.
This year could be different.

                                            THANKSGIVING BLESSINGS TO ALL

Just finished picking some Blue crabs ,,and spraying my rings with lysol,,it is the cold and flu season y'all know,.

Nice preview article on the front page tonight,,and have a
Happy  and Safe Thanksgiving
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2011, 05:44:28 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on November 23, 2011, 04:57:43 PM
Nice preview article on the front page tonight,,and have a
Happy  and Safe Thanksgiving

I concur!  The article is a great lead-in to the game! Well written.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on November 23, 2011, 07:09:58 PM
This week's interview with Mike Drass is up on the WDEL Facebook page.  Should have it available at WDEL.com sometime this evening.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2011, 08:28:10 PM
You can tell when the UWW fans are around.. Everyone starts losing Karma.. what a bunch of whiney babies!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2011, 09:42:59 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2011, 08:28:10 PM
You can tell when the UWW fans are around.. Everyone starts losing Karma.. what a bunch of whiney babies!!!

LOL!!!!   ;D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 23, 2011, 10:13:57 PM
beenhit2hard, not sure you needed my support, but i really respect your opinion.  I remember meeting you when stone station came to dover to watch wesley in the playoffs and you had nice things to say about my son.  I did not mean to put you in this drivel, but maybe someone learned that before you spout off at the mouth you should know what you are talking about.  I agree the front page article was really good and I agree with the Linfield coach, this game is much better than a final 16 game.  love the spraying your rings with lysol comment, +1 to you.  everyone have a great and safe thanksgiving.  hoping that the next 2 days go by real quick.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 23, 2011, 10:43:49 PM
wesleydad,

I enjoy your comments as well, you think about the game before you write,,and you have seen many more teams than most of us.You have good insight into how the games should playout.

Have a good Thanksgiving, relax on friday,,and be there for a good one saturday
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2011, 10:51:04 PM
beenhit2hard

Does that mean you are going to wear all 7 Saturday!!! 8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 23, 2011, 11:04:54 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2011, 10:51:04 PM
beenhit2hard

Does that mean you are going to wear all 7 Saturday!!! 8-)

Now that would be worth a drive up to see :D
But alas - I am working a real backyard brawl with Old Dominion-Norfolk State in the FCS (Cough 1-AA Cough) playoffs.

Happy Thanksgiving all

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2011, 11:11:37 PM
Haha Jim!!!

Too bad we miss ya up here!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 23, 2011, 11:36:20 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2011, 11:11:37 PM
Haha Jim!!!

Too bad we miss ya up here!!

Yeah - and now that we moved our game with Wesley till November .... just imagining what the wind will be next year...lol
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2011, 11:52:26 PM
Quote from: nnasid on November 23, 2011, 11:36:20 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2011, 11:11:37 PM
Haha Jim!!!

Too bad we miss ya up here!!

Yeah - and now that we moved our game with Wesley till November .... just imagining what the wind will be next year...lol


Brisk!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on November 24, 2011, 12:10:37 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2011, 08:28:10 PM
You can tell when the UWW fans are around.. Everyone starts losing Karma.. what a bunch of whiney babies!!!

Kind of a broad brush you paint with PA.  I don't know who is doing what with karma, but I know I've not dinged any. Since you've chosen to refer to UWW fans as "a bunch of whiney babies", I'll go ahead and engage on your board. Not in whining or talking about canons or shoes or injuries or how many rings my Mount Union friend has or how many thousands of miles I've traveled going to D3 games.

I'm just going to let my Linfield friends know my honest opinion without sugar-coating it (as a "popular" Wesley poster likes to say).

Linfield fans, the Wesley backers love to point to how talented and skilled and fast their team plays. And to a degree that is true. However, I have watched Wesley a number of times and the story is always the same.  Here is what the Wesley folks won't tell you:

1. While Wesley is far superior athletically to most of the teams they play in the regular season, they really "aren't all that" when playing a top team nationally.   
2. Their interior offensive and defensive line play does not usually match up well for 60 minutes against UW-W. If Linfield is strong in these areas, they should be fine.
3. Most importantly, in each of the games I've seen, Wesley plays the stupidest football and is the least disciplined team I have ever seen. Play fundamentally sound, fast, hard, and through the whistle for 60 minutes and watch them implode.
4. Linfield wins this game. And if they don't, it's OK because Wesley will lose it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2011, 12:12:24 AM
bleedpurple
Thank you for making my point!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2011, 12:30:14 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 24, 2011, 12:10:37 AM


1. While Wesley is far superior athletically to most of the teams they play in the regular season, they really "aren't all that" when playing a top team nationally.   
2. Their interior offensive and defensive line play does not usually match up well for 60 minutes against UW-W. If Linfield is strong in these areas, they should be fine.
3. Most importantly, in each of the games I've seen, Wesley plays the stupidest football and is the least disciplined team I have ever seen. Play fundamentally sound, fast, hard, and through the whistle for 60 minutes and watch them implode.
4. Linfield wins this game. And if they don't, it's OK because Wesley will lose it.

Interesting.  Wesley plays "stupid" football to reach the semis on an almost annual basis.  Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.   ::)  Sure enough, before I even posted this, I got Karma sniped.  Lovely.


-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 24, 2011, 12:58:23 AM
Pretty sure the LINFIELD President and the Athletic Director will be on the team charter. How about someone from Wesley invite some CEO's from the credit card companies and the banks to sponsor a home - home series between the combatants the next few years?
The angle for them could be REAL student athletes.
(BTW,Delaware is "only" 8.1% unemployment while Oregon is 9.8%).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 24, 2011, 01:19:41 AM
bleedpurple, the point where you are right is the #2. When we lose, just like many other teams, our lines may not be as good as the opposition's....the other stuff is just trying to stir the pot and rile us Wesley fans up! I could do that with UWW too if I wanted. It would be pretty easy to do.  ;)

And I dont know about the whole cannon thing, but I believe that there is an NCAA rule that prohibits artificial noisemakers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bluenote on November 24, 2011, 01:39:34 AM
Here's my take...even though both teams are very good on both sides of the ball...it will be a defensive battle..that's just my opinion..   8-)

Plus I gave everybody +K I could within the 24 hour period!

Go Cats!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on November 24, 2011, 07:44:46 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 24, 2011, 01:19:41 AM
bleedpurple, the point where you are right is the #2. When we lose, just like many other teams, our lines may not be as good as the opposition's....the other stuff is just trying to stir the pot and rile us Wesley fans up! I could do that with UWW too if I wanted. It would be pretty easy to do.  ;)

And I dont know about the whole cannon thing, but I believe that there is an NCAA rule that prohibits artificial noisemakers.

Well, there might be SOME truth to that, at least in terms of my chosen wording.  ;) +K

But the coast to coast trash talking I've seen between Wesley/South Region and Linfield/NWC posters has been some of the best of the year and I felt like I had my opening!  ;D

Anyway, +k to Ski, too (but I can't promise how long it will last). I think Pat said "a couple" of UW-W posters seems to have it in for you, didn't he? For the record, I'll step into the fray with my opinion (maybe trying to stir things up a bit at times) but I don't know who hits the karma.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL WESLEY AND LINFIELD POSTERS.

I do have a feeling both sides want this one pretty badly!  ;D

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 24, 2011, 09:06:09 AM
uww, I have no issues with anything that you posted.  point 1 is true for any of the top teams in D3, that is why they are top teams.  point 2 few if any teams interior o and d lines match up with uww, that is why uww has won the championship several times in recent years.  point 3 not sure if stupidest is a word I would use, but undisciplined is certainly a word that would describe some of the personal foul penalties they get in crucial situations.  We wesley posters have lamented about that on numerous occasions.  point 4 I have been accused of making excuses for Wesley losses, but most of the recent losses they have had except for the losses to uww and mount have been more due to wesley's mistakes than the other teams superiority.  as far as the karma thing goes, I have it from good sources that several uww posters constantly ding mine, so be it.  I always welcome opposing opinions to mine especially if they are based on some facts.  Conversation about D3 football is why I am on here, if someone just wants to waste their time and come by and - karma me, have fun.

Happy Thanksgiving to all Wesley and Linfield posters and any other D3 posters who happen to come on by today.  Only 2 more days until this game gets played, seems to be a pretty anticipated game around D3 not just in Dover or McMinnville, sorry if I misspelled.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gig Harbor Cat on November 24, 2011, 09:28:49 AM
My Call

Cats are a +7 all day long against wesleyville

Phone it in, This one is in the bank boys

GHC--
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 24, 2011, 09:29:14 AM
One thing I am really thankful for today is that I was lucky enough to coach till I was 65(still coaching but at a much lower level),,I am not sure I am cut out for all this fan stuff,,it takes away from the true beauty of the game,,the planning,scouting, schemeing(sp)  etc ,and the teaching of the game to young men,,and finally the playing of the GAME .For the last 5 years I have enjoyed the tailgating and watching other teams across the country,,but not to sure I could have made it as a fan    ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2011, 10:23:36 AM
Happy Thanksgiving  to ALL  the DIII faithful. Travel safe!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on November 24, 2011, 11:52:20 AM
I pray all have a most wonderful and Blessed Thanksgiving.
I hope all traveling to Dover arrive safe, happy, and full. Hopefully all the players give it thier best, no one is injured, and this early round game turns out as good a game as it should be, based on the fans opinions of thier respective teams.

yall be safe and keep the faith

(ps- it has been a little more lively on the board the past week)  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 24, 2011, 01:14:04 PM
Quick note that Keith McMillan and I will be calling the videocast of the Linfield/Wesley Second Round NCAA Division III Football Tournament game Saturday, with our pregame show beginning at 11:50am EST.  Look for the links on the schools' athletics sites and on D3football.com Saturday.  Dave McHugh will be producing the video.

I know that people were curious about the coverage, so I wanted to assure everyone that we're on top of it.  Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 24, 2011, 02:04:38 PM
Have some fun while working hard Frank and Keith.

Since I cannot get my facts straight, I'll just send an article from a paper that covers LINFIELD....

http://web.newsregister.com/news/results.cfm?story_no=274513 (http://web.newsregister.com/news/results.cfm?story_no=274513)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 24, 2011, 02:32:55 PM
As best as I can tell, Linfield's record in the Eastern Time Zone is 1-0. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on November 24, 2011, 02:50:11 PM
IMHO, the Linfield/Wesley game winner will be by a touchdown or less. Not sure what the weather forecast is for Dover on Saturday or which team will be impacted the most! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on November 24, 2011, 03:37:24 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on November 24, 2011, 09:29:14 AM
One thing I am really thankful for today is that I was lucky enough to coach till I was 65(still coaching but at a much lower level),,I am not sure I am cut out for all this fan stuff,,it takes away from the true beauty of the game,,the planning,scouting, schemeing(sp)  etc ,and the teaching of the game to young men,,and finally the playing of the GAME .For the last 5 years I have enjoyed the tailgating and watching other teams across the country,,but not to sure I could have made it as a fan    ;) ;) ;D

Great post. As a former coach and AD in Texas HS football, all I can say is "Amen!!!"
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 24, 2011, 03:40:56 PM
raider68, no weather impact at all unless someone gets the sun in their eyes.  60 and sunny is the forecast with the breeze that is always happening in dover.  unless someone plays a very sloppy game I agree with the td or less spread.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: LuavilleCat on November 24, 2011, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 24, 2011, 02:32:55 PM
As best as I can tell, Linfield's record in the Eastern Time Zone is 1-0. ;)

Ralph, the CATS played in the NAIA Championship Bowl at Augusta, GA in 1965 against St. Johns. You might say we're on a one-game winning streak hoping to make it two.

GO CATS
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 24, 2011, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: LuavilleCat on November 24, 2011, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 24, 2011, 02:32:55 PM
As best as I can tell, Linfield's record in the Eastern Time Zone is 1-0. ;)

Ralph, the CATS played in the NAIA Championship Bowl at Augusta, GA in 1965 against St. Johns. You might say we're on a one-game winning streak hoping to make it two.

GO CATS
On these boards, the clock resets to NCAA D-III. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 24, 2011, 07:08:49 PM
Good, because they destroyed  us,0 - 33, and we still hear about it now and then.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 24, 2011, 07:28:55 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to all.  I am very thankful for having found out about the quality of the Wesley program about 10 years ago.  Having lived not too far away all my life, it was only once one of our high school players went to Wesley that I started following the team.  We were hooked, and still are.  Wish more people understood the beauty of a D-III game - awesome football, nice facilities, good parking, cheap tickets, reasonable concessions and a great atmosphere.  And where else can you get Uncle Frank?  Play-off time takes that to a whole new level.  We've met some pretty great people travelling around (yes, even those at UWW and Mt U were ok :)  So thanks to all of you more directly involved with these programs and who run these web sites who make this possible - you're pretty great people.  Looking forward to an awesome Saturday.  Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on November 25, 2011, 12:53:50 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 24, 2011, 09:06:09 AM
uww, I have no issues with anything that you posted.  point 1 is true for any of the top teams in D3, that is why they are top teams.  point 2 few if any teams interior o and d lines match up with uww, that is why uww has won the championship several times in recent years.  point 3 not sure if stupidest is a word I would use, but undisciplined is certainly a word that would describe some of the personal foul penalties they get in crucial situations.  We wesley posters have lamented about that on numerous occasions.  point 4 I have been accused of making excuses for Wesley losses, but most of the recent losses they have had except for the losses to uww and mount have been more due to wesley's mistakes than the other teams superiority.  as far as the karma thing goes, I have it from good sources that several uww posters constantly ding mine, so be it.  I always welcome opposing opinions to mine especially if they are based on some facts.  Conversation about D3 football is why I am on here, if someone just wants to waste their time and come by and - karma me, have fun.

Happy Thanksgiving to all Wesley and Linfield posters and any other D3 posters who happen to come on by today.  Only 2 more days until this game gets played, seems to be a pretty anticipated game around D3 not just in Dover or McMinnville, sorry if I misspelled.
Not from this UWW poster.  I can't remember the last time I smited anyone.  I try to be careful when it comes to putting out negative energy ;).  + karma and good luck on Saturday. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Assistant Waterboy on November 25, 2011, 01:16:21 AM
  Saw the predictions and was a little surprised 2 people went with Linfield but I respectfully disagree. I think Wesley is a 7 point favorite at home and add Linfields travel and Wesleys is a 14 point favorite. Its going to be a lot of fun. Let the purple people eating begin.

;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 25, 2011, 08:30:55 AM
Quote from: Assistant Waterboy on November 25, 2011, 01:16:21 AM
  Saw the predictions and was a little surprised 2 people went with Linfield but I respectfully disagree. I think Wesley is a 7 point favorite at home and add Linfields travel and Wesleys is a 14 point favorite. Its going to be a lot of fun. Let the purple people eating begin.

;D
assistant waterboy, I will have to disagree on this one.  I see the game as a toss up with the travel maybe making Wesley a slight favorite.  The predictions are what I expected and one of the points that keith made about Linfield being the nation's sack leaders is a reason why this is a toss up.  I am going on the lines of Pat, I think there may be more points scored than expected.  I will have no complaints if Wesley does win by 14 though. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 25, 2011, 08:54:15 AM
only one more day to go.  I think and hope this will be a good game.  Everything points to a really close one.  In order for Wesley to win they have to play a clean game.  They will have to be turnover neutral.  The defense had about 6 chances to pick off passes last week and they got none, a couple tomorrow will certainly help.  The D line will have to shut down the run, Linfield has a nice running back who will control the game if he is allowed to.  The D backs will have to come up big.  Looking at last weeks Linfield stats, 17 completions for only 156 yards says short passing game.  Keep things in front of you and make tackles.  On offense the O line has to have a better game.  Having trouble picking up blitzes will not be good tomorrow since Linfield leads the nation in sacks.  I expect that Linfield will play a slightly different D than they did last week and try to stop McSweeney from running.  Most of the Cal Luth QB yards came on drop backs that turned into runs when the O line opened huge lanes for him.  McAndrews has to be involved in the game more, he needs to catch passes to make the linebackers and safties stay home or make them pay when they blitz.  The running game has to be efficient enough to make Linfield worry about stopping it, if Wesley can't run the ball with someone other that McSweeney it could be a long day.  I am worried about the punting.  2 blocked by Kean and 1 by Hobart, I expect Linfield to bring the house to try and turn the game on a blocked punt.  This sets up as a really good game if both teams play to their abilities.  In the end I believe that Wesley has a better defense than Cal Luth and the offense is just as good, maybe slightly better.  I am taking Wesley 35 - 31, either a late TD to win it or the D stopping a late drive.  I know the score is high, but I just get a feeling that the O's are going to get it done on both sides.  If Wesley plays like they did last week they will get blown out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gig Harbor Cat on November 25, 2011, 09:28:35 AM
When you boys take a look back at last week, consider that the Cats had either 5 or 6 D starters out and they will all be back this week


Catdome Baby

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 25, 2011, 10:02:40 AM
ghc, if that is true then there is likely not that much of a difference between the 1 and 2 on the depth chart.  The players that I saw on the video could play, so I don't think it will look that much different tomorrow.  All I know is that Wesley better have a plan for #4 or he will mess up any game plan they have.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 25, 2011, 10:45:32 AM
Quote from: Gig Harbor Cat on November 25, 2011, 09:28:35 AM
When you boys take a look back at last week, consider that the Cats had either 5 or 6 D starters out and they will all be back this week


Catdome Baby

Game films that are trade are usually the two games previous to last week,,so most players will have been seen  on film,,(I dont' think we have used film in30 years,,old habits)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 25, 2011, 11:00:25 AM
Weather for Sat at game time

  Mid to hi 50's and 6-8 mph wind with expectations of a game that will show you some great football !!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 25, 2011, 11:09:25 AM
Xs and Os are cereal. It's all computers wesleydad.
Astute observation on depth chart between 1st and 2nd, but you need to consider 3rd.
Year round training will play a big part tomorrow. Did your boys eat pie all spring and summer? It'll show.
No cracks about me eating pie tomorrow, please. 
I've wanted to play Wesley since they've hovered near and above us in the charts. There's been 1-2 in the Stagg so I've been naturally curious about the also rans.
Somebody had to travel.
Be sure to say a kind word to our Hawaiian bros. Dey come 6,000 miles.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 25, 2011, 11:16:51 AM
DOC, I think most of us who have been in the next group have always been wondering how we would do against the other members of the second group.  The change to a more national bracket set up allows it to happen.  Some potential great 1/4 matchups with Kean - Salisbury at UWW, St Thomas against Del Val or Fisher, Mount vs. NCC or Wabash, and our winner against UMHB or McMurray.  The next 3 weeks are set up for some excellent match ups no matter who wins this week.  Of course some of my ideas could be blown up by Franklin, Monmouth, or Centre.  This is really getting fun.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: LuavilleCat on November 25, 2011, 11:57:57 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 25, 2011, 08:54:15 AM
... "I expect that Linfield will play a slightly different D than they did last week and try to stop McSweeney from running.  Most of the Cal Luth QB yards came on drop backs that turned into runs when the O line opened huge lanes for him.  "

Spot on Wesleydad. I'll be surprised if Wesley sees much of a three-man rush. CLU's qb tucked and ran because the defense gave him that choice with effective secondary coverage. Perhaps one should review the Lewis and Clark game from a week previous, and evaluate Linfield's defensive strategy in containing their double threat NWC Player of the Year qb. The Cats won 47-14.

..."if Wesley can't run the ball with someone other that McSweeney it could be a long day."  Good observation.

..."I am worried about the punting..." Good observation.

..."I expect Linfield to bring the house to try and turn the game on a blocked punt."  Think it and ink it, and it will probably happen.  You know then, the special teams are coached by a former Linfield Hall-of-Fame head football coach. If a punt isn't blocked, there's a likely chance #4 will run one back.   

..."If Wesley plays like they did last week they will get blown out."  It won't happen. You have too much pride, we have a whole lot of respect. The past is water under the bridge.  I expect Wesley to give their best effort.

I know from personal observation this year Linfield's defense is very quick, fundamentally sound, well disciplined, well-coached, and intelligent. I know defense wins championships.
If Wesley wins, your team deserves to bask in the glory of victory.

If you expect a short passing game, you will be torched as well as executing far more kick-off returns than you like.

If the kicking game is going to make a difference, I know our field goal kicker has game - anytime the ball is snapped within your 32 yard line, he can nail it.

One thing that needs to be addressed that hasn't been discussed: half-time adjustments and second-half execution.

Wesleydad, and all Wolerines, you guys are in for a treat.


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gig Harbor Cat on November 25, 2011, 12:16:38 PM
Quote from: Gig Harbor Cat on November 25, 2011, 12:15:38 PM
having the boys back on our Salty D will just improve the rotation.  Anybody on the travel squad is a player.  This is pretty much a team without stars,  that is what we all like about them.  I assure you that their speed will impress in person. 

Got some insider information on tomorrow.  All I can say is that everyone needs to expect the unexpected-- or not  :o

Let the purple frisbees fly boys

Cats by 7

GHC
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: 02 Warhawk on November 25, 2011, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2011, 08:28:10 PM
You can tell when the UWW fans are around.. Everyone starts losing Karma.. what a bunch of whiney babies!!!

Interesting statement  :o

I was having a good time reading the back and forth between Wesley and Linfield fans, then out of nowhere you post this. I fail to see what a UWW fan posted to warrant this...I don't see anyone complaining. Mostly b/c we don't have anything to complain about.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 25, 2011, 01:57:50 PM
Well then, may Levell Coppage: WIAC All-Time Leading Rusher, stay unharmed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 25, 2011, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: LuavilleCat on November 25, 2011, 11:57:57 AM

..."I expect Linfield to bring the house to try and turn the game on a blocked punt."  Think it and ink it, and it will probably happen.  You know then, the special teams are coached by a former Linfield Hall-of-Fame head football coach. If a punt isn't blocked, there's a likely chance #4 will run one back.   



Possible but hardly probable.  The blocked punt was the first since the Kean game.  So the chances of another blocked punt after last week's performance is highly unlikely IMHO.  If Wesley plays their A game, which IS possible, then they will win.  Plain and simple.  People have gotten hung up on Wesley's poor performance in several games this year, but give them no credit for their intelligence nor the intensity they bring to the game.  I certainly hope Linfield shows up with that mentality.   If they do and Wesley shows up to play, they are in a world of hurt.   I don't think they will.

If Wesley is on their game tomorrow, they will display an ability to move the ball in the air and on the ground.  They will show a turn of speed that causes a lot of defenses headaches.  They will show a penchant for pressuring QB's into mistakes.  If Wesley is on their game, Linfield's run game will cease to exist.  Only time will tell.....  I look forward to one hell of a game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 25, 2011, 05:04:50 PM
One more day! Its gonna be a good one, I have a good feeling though. Dont think you Linfield guys should be putting anything on the board. The game is yet to be played.

Think the outcome of the game will hinge on Shane McSweeny's performance. If he is able to move the ball with his feet and his arm and have a solid day, and we play mistake free football Wesley will be tough to beat.

Luaville, that Hobart game was probably the worst since Kean, it also had the first blocked punt since that game like Teamski pointed out. Dont think our special teams play will not be at least somewhat improved.

Looking forward to tomorrow.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: LuavilleCat on November 25, 2011, 06:36:26 PM
As with Linfield, I want Wesley to play to their absolute best potential - no mistakes, no injuries, no coaching booboos, and in fantastic weather conditions.

May each kid and every coach on both sidelines be able say after the game, "I did my best, I gave it my all; I have no regrets."

Should that happen, it reduces the probability of hearing excuses - the should of, could of, would of scenarios - from people who find fault with anything after their team loses.

With a Wesley win, I will be one of the first to tip my hat and say job well done Wolverines. With a Linfield win, I will still be one of the first to tip my hat and say job well done Wolverines.

GO CATS - LEAVE NO DOUBT


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2011, 07:58:16 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 25, 2011, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2011, 08:28:10 PM
You can tell when the UWW fans are around.. Everyone starts losing Karma.. what a bunch of whiney babies!!!

Interesting statement  :o

I was having a good time reading the back and forth between Wesley and Linfield fans, then out of nowhere you post this. I fail to see what a UWW fan posted to warrant this...I don't see anyone complaining. Mostly b/c we don't have anything to complain about.

02  Warhawk 

I apolioize to you. But  I stand by my statement about a number of UWW posters. All they did was belittle  the Wesley players and coaches when Wesley played them and then some how tried to convince the world that our coach had the cannon shut down. We Wesley fans excepted that we didn't win and that our kids didn't have their best games. But they way we were treated on our own boards as well as the UWW was uncalled for.
The Linfield fans have been having some fun with us but at least they aren't mean  spirited...

we don't have hundreds of posters on our board butr I would be the first to chastise someone who abused other fans.

Enough of that...


I look foward to a great game tomorrow. I'll make the two hr trek as usual to see Wesley try and beat another great team!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 25, 2011, 08:10:18 PM
Pa, will see you tomorrow. Have a safe trip! As well as anyone heading to Dover tomorrow. Looks like it will be "nice" weather for the game. Will have trouble sleeping tonight! too much excitement!  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gig Harbor Cat on November 25, 2011, 08:17:37 PM
CATDOME

East Coast

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 25, 2011, 09:16:07 PM
all wesley fans, if you dont have concerns about the punt formation then you are not watching the games.  it is the worst formation ever and if a team decides to go for the block they will likely get it.  the fact that it was not blocked since kean is, in my opinion, a fluke.  Linfield will be bringing athletes that Wesley has only seen a couple of times this year.  I hope I am wrong, but I expect a punt to be blocked, just hope that it doesn't cost them the game.  Glad that the game is finally almost here, a good night sleep and a short 1 hour 15 minute drive and I will be there to see what happens.  Waterboy, find me, since the weather is going to be warm enough I will be wearing the # 13 jersey and standing in the far endzone unless I get tired of shielding my eyes from the sun.  pawesley and teamski, I will make sure I get in early enough to say hi before I head to the end zone.  beenhit2hard, I am sure you will be on the away stands and I will see you at some point.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 25, 2011, 09:53:18 PM
Quoteit is the worst formation ever
I couldn't agree more!  This is the only aspect of tomorrow's game that really worries me.  Can anyone explain what the value is in using this formation?  I just see it as an accident waiting to happen and for the life of me can't understand its value.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on November 25, 2011, 10:50:28 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 25, 2011, 09:16:07 PM
all wesley fans, if you dont have concerns about the punt formation then you are not watching the games.  it is the worst formation ever and if a team decides to go for the block they will likely get it.  the fact that it was not blocked since kean is, in my opinion, a fluke.  Linfield will be bringing athletes that Wesley has only seen a couple of times this year.  I hope I am wrong, but I expect a punt to be blocked, just hope that it doesn't cost them the game.  Glad that the game is finally almost here, a good night sleep and a short 1 hour 15 minute drive and I will be there to see what happens.  Waterboy, find me, since the weather is going to be warm enough I will be wearing the # 13 jersey and standing in the far endzone unless I get tired of shielding my eyes from the sun.  pawesley and teamski, I will make sure I get in early enough to say hi before I head to the end zone.  beenhit2hard, I am sure you will be on the away stands and I will see you at some point.

I've awoken from the banished. I hope you and your family hand a great Thanksgiving. The only thing I can take out of the Fall is that Montclair is in the NCAA Final 4 in Soccer. Now down to Football, all I hear is that if Wesley plays their game they will win. I agree, but 110-60 and "Keep Pounding" every game will get them to the Stagg Bowl. I picked you guys to go all the way this year. No screwing around and take care of business. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2011, 11:35:41 PM
wesleydad

Wesley did use a standard punt formation in at least one game I saw this year.So i think they have it to use if the need a rises. I look for a nice bounce back game for the wolverines tomorrow..
Be leaving for Dover about 8:30

Lets Go Wesley !!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 12:13:18 AM
GAMEDAY!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bluenote on November 26, 2011, 01:55:39 AM
Happy Thanksgiving... !  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 26, 2011, 07:07:19 AM


Pre game meal, just coffee so far  ,, but getting ready for a ballgame !!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 26, 2011, 07:54:14 AM
Ski, you took my idea, but I wouldn't have done it as well.

Pawesley, I hope they choose to use the regular punt formation, just dont see how 3 guys block 5 or 6 if the other team chooses to send that many up the middle.

I think this may be one of the most anticipated games in years for the Wolverines.  They get a chance to prove that they belong in the top group of D3 football.  I know last years game with UWW was a big one, but this has taken on a different feel to me.  May be the most excited I have been to see a game since Jason stopped playing.  Play up to their abilities and they can win the game.  Not a cheerleader very often anymore, but GO WOLVERINES.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 26, 2011, 08:36:34 AM
weather will not be a factor unless either team doesn't like playing in sunny and 60's.  Great weather for a football game and to watch a football game.  Be heading out in about an hour, see you all at the field.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 09:25:52 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 26, 2011, 08:36:34 AM
weather will not be a factor unless either team doesn't like playing in sunny and 60's.  Great weather for a football game and to watch a football game.  Be heading out in about an hour, see you all at the field.

And negligible wind to boot!  Yeah!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 26, 2011, 10:41:11 AM
Let's do it.
No injuries!

All those neutral fans and the Wesley faithful are welcome to suffer through the ups and downs of the call of Keith and Frank with us right here...


http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7465.2250 (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7465.2250)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MonroviaCat on November 26, 2011, 02:58:27 PM
Congrats to Wesley--you guys played a hell of a 2nd half--good Luck next week!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 26, 2011, 03:11:12 PM
You won't have me to kick around any more

Congrats to the Wesley coaching staff and charges.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Gig Harbor Cat on November 26, 2011, 03:15:54 PM
Props to Wesley,  good luck on your run.

GHC out
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: LuavilleCat on November 26, 2011, 03:16:06 PM
In my mind today was a perfect example of no matter what the score is in life (or a football game), if one has faith, anything can happen. My hat is off to Wesley for never giving up, and making the most of a dire situation. You guys witnessed a tremendous comeback, one of humongous proportion. Good luck next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bluenote on November 26, 2011, 04:28:30 PM
Excellent comeback in the 2nd half......props to Wesley and good luck next week!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 04:30:51 PM
Thank you gentlemen for the complements. 

You talk about character!  All I can say is WOW!!!   Wesley made some really good adjustments for the second half as they have throughout the season.  To come back from 20 point down at the half to lead by 22 with two minutes left showed a lot of moxy.  The Irish connection was working its wonders while the defense tightened up its play to take complete control of the game.

I had the honor of having Keith McMillan in my left ear (literally!) throughout the game as I was filming, so I had play by play of the game as well.   It was great to see them shocked as I was at just how much the game turned.  Amazing!

I am really thrilled that the Linfield player that was injured in the first quarter seems to be fine, so all the better!! 

I don't think I will be able to sleep tonight.  It was a Wesley fan's dream!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 26, 2011, 05:18:34 PM
That definitely has to be the best game I have ever seen for the Wolverines. To go from 20 points down and come all the way back, and leave no doubt at the end was very impressive. I will have to admit, at half time I had hoped Wesley would just keep it close. But that was nothing less than amazing, the effort the Wolverines put forth in that second half. They didnt quit and it paid off in the end. How about shane mcsweeny too! 259 Pass Yds, 4 Pass TDs, 174 Rushing yards, 2 RuTDs. WOW! and look at the penalties 4 for 30 yards. That second half is the best that the 2011 Wolverines have played this year.

On to UMHB. I feel like we say that every year lol  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 26, 2011, 05:21:27 PM
first, glad to hear that the Linfield player is going to be ok, that was a collision.

Going from being really frustrated during the first half where Linfield's offense just made big paly after big play on third and longs to build what seemed like an insurmountable lead.  Most of us in the end zone were hoping that Wesley would make a good showing in the second half and make a game of it.  WOW, did they ever, that was F'n awesome.  Big hit on the second half kickoff, fumble and a quick Wesley TD, 27 - 14.  Linfield puts together another nice drive and it looks like down 3 scores again and POW, 100 yd int return and now it is a game.  At that point you could see Linfield looking tired.  Wesley's D took over at that point shutting down Linfield and when Wesley look the lead 28 - 27 you could see a very tired Linfield defense walk off the field.  From there I believe Wesley's size advantage just wore down the defense and Wesley went on to score 3 more TDs.  Props to Linfield for being well prepared and making big play after big play in the first half.  Hats off to the Wesley players and coaches for coming out in the second half and finally making plays to come back and take over the game.  To all the nay sayers out there who chimed in this week that you don't have to beat Wesley they will beat themselves, well this is one time you get to eat your words, only 1 turnover and very few penalties with no personal fouls.  A great, great win for the team and the seniors, another group that has gone to at least the quarters for all 4 years.  7 straight years advancing to at least the quarters puts Wesley clearly in the second rung of top D3 programs.  Still have that last hurdle to climb, but at least they get a chance.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 26, 2011, 05:23:15 PM
Also, great to see the few Wesley posters today at the game.  Pawesley, Beenhit2hard, Ski, and Waterboy,  We get another week to enjoy D3 football against a familiar and classy rival.  Will be fun chatting with the UMHB people.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CruAlum58 on November 26, 2011, 05:26:51 PM
UMHB and Wesley have become frequent opponents. How does this WC team compare to the teams that UMHB has faced. They have always been huge and very athletic. I am looking forward to another incredible game in this intense rivalry.

Go Cru
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 05:54:56 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 26, 2011, 05:18:34 PM
  How about shane mcsweeny too! 259 Pass Yds, 4 Pass TDs, 174 Rushing yards, 2 RuTDs. WOW! and look at the penalties 4 for 30 yards. That second half is the best that the 2011 Wolverines have played this year.


You make a good a point and one I made before the game.  If Wesley plays without making mistakes, they are a tough team to beat.  The Wolverines held Linfield to 88 yards running and only had the 30 yards of penalties.  That is discipline.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 26, 2011, 06:18:07 PM
WOW I was following the scoreboard during ODU-Norfolk State down here and looking at 21 down thinking it wasnt pretty ... next look Wesley up huge...
Congrats Wesley Wolverines , coaches and fans
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 26, 2011, 06:32:37 PM
crualum58, in my opinion this is the least overall talented team that Wesley has had since 2004.  That being said they may be playing the best as a team since the team that went to Mount in 2009.  They are non-descropt on offense except for McSweeney and you can see by the stats today that he can make things happen.  The O line is big and the receivers are getting better as the season goes on.  The defense is what you are used to, big and fast.  The secondary is the weakest part, but came up huge today with the 99 yd int return for a TD.  If UMHB is as usual, run first, throw last, then this should be a good game.  Strength on strength.  The x factor will be McSweeney, if UMHB cant contain him Wesley will have a good shot to win the game.  Looking forward to the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on November 26, 2011, 06:34:12 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 26, 2011, 05:21:27 PM
first, glad to hear that the Linfield player is going to be ok, that was a collision.

Going from being really frustrated during the first half where Linfield's offense just made big paly after big play on third and longs to build what seemed like an insurmountable lead.  Most of us in the end zone were hoping that Wesley would make a good showing in the second half and make a game of it.  WOW, did they ever, that was F'n awesome.  Big hit on the second half kickoff, fumble and a quick Wesley TD, 27 - 14.  Linfield puts together another nice drive and it looks like down 3 scores again and POW, 100 yd int return and now it is a game.  At that point you could see Linfield looking tired.  Wesley's D took over at that point shutting down Linfield and when Wesley look the lead 28 - 27 you could see a very tired Linfield defense walk off the field.  From there I believe Wesley's size advantage just wore down the defense and Wesley went on to score 3 more TDs.  Props to Linfield for being well prepared and making big play after big play in the first half.  Hats off to the Wesley players and coaches for coming out in the second half and finally making plays to come back and take over the game.  To all the nay sayers out there who chimed in this week that you don't have to beat Wesley they will beat themselves, well this is one time you get to eat your words, only 1 turnover and very few penalties with no personal fouls.  A great, great win for the team and the seniors, another group that has gone to at least the quarters for all 4 years.  7 straight years advancing to at least the quarters puts Wesley clearly in the second rung of top D3 programs.  Still have that last hurdle to climb, but at least they get a chance.

I was definitely the one leading the way with this opinion/prediction.  I was completely wrong. It takes TREMENDOUS  character and pretty near flawless play to come back against an opponent like Linfield down 20 points.  Although I didn't question their character, I MORE than questioned their ability to play disciplined and smart in a big game.  Congratulations to the Wesley players and coaching staff.  Much respect earned today.  Way to go!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on November 26, 2011, 06:41:55 PM
Congrats to Wesley on the big win today. I was tunning in while at the Salisbury game and when I saw that you guys were down by 20 at the end of the half. I thought that Wesley was either committing turnovers or Linfield was just that good (they are still good). However, after looking at the final score, it seems as though the aww of playing a new team wore off and Wesley played like Wesley and proved that they are one of top teams in the nation. Good Luck next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: repete on November 26, 2011, 07:00:54 PM
Congrats to Wesley crew on a great rally and deserved win. Good luck next week. It would be good to see them knock off UMHB. I posted longer thoughts on the NWC board. One thing to add: We left a bit early before the end of the game as we walked down beyond the Guard parking, we could still heard a great pop from a kickoff lick.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 26, 2011, 07:22:15 PM
Just home from watching a great football game. From  a coaches viewpoint I saw the game this way.
1st Half L was well prepared, the d took away W best plays.No boot passes no reverses and kept the qb under control .W speed showed as they caught #7(a really good back)on his long run and also ran down a reciever who got behind the w defense. A key was the PLAY calling by L on 3rd down ,,a lot of big conversions, well called offense. 2nd half. W made some good adjustments
On d they went to some agressive 5 under man, which allowed time for more PRESSURE on the qb.
On Offense,,a few more traps,or g blocks  to open holes for the QB and RB,,and team speed and depth started to take its toll on L. Qb's ability to scramble made a big difference in the 2nd half
The W d made good adjustment and stopped plays that had hurt them in 1st H.

Also speed an ability began to show more as the half went on.

AS a team I was very impressed with the scheme,game plan ,coaches and players of Linfield, they were a team that deserved to be in the playoffs.They showed a lot of CLASS the entire game.

GOOD teams find ways to win and today the Coaches and young men of WESLEY did that.

As a "fan" I tought it was a heck of an game to watch,,and so did my Wife.

Here's hoping all of the injuries get better,,thanks for a great game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 26, 2011, 07:37:19 PM
Also,I believe there wer 4 3rd down passes knocked down in the 2nd half by linemen and LB's ,,big plays because the recievers were coming open  :-[
:-[
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: mattvsmith on November 26, 2011, 08:12:42 PM
Congratulations, Wesley fans!

The Rev just saw the score and read a quick blurb about the come back. Outstanding!
The Rev was turned off by the smack-talking. Wesley has proven they belong at the top of anyone's list.  Phone it in, GHC.

Also, +k to Whitewater fan, Bleedpurple, for admitting he was wrong. Not many people have both the guts and the good sportsmanship to admit that. He did, and that deserves recognition.

Keep it going, Wesley! Good luck next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 08:25:20 PM
What I would give to see a replay of the telecast!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MonroviaCat on November 26, 2011, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 08:25:20 PM
What I would give to see a replay of the telecast!!

-Ski
You'd be really disappointed.  It sucked--really choppy video and motion blur.  Audio was good for me most of the game but even that got messed up (along with my Wildcats season) near the end of the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 26, 2011, 09:12:09 PM
What a game!  Much credit to Linfield for a great first half.  That offense was down right scary - was beginning to wonder if your receivers would ever drop a ball.  I give Wesley's special teams much credit for a pretty good day (still don't like the stupid punt formation, but at least it worked ok).  Glad to see an end to the stupid penalties.  And very glad the injured player is ok.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 09:25:16 PM
Quote from: MonroviaCat on November 26, 2011, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 08:25:20 PM
What I would give to see a replay of the telecast!!

-Ski
You'd be really disappointed.  It sucked--really choppy video and motion blur.  Audio was good for me most of the game but even that got messed up (along with my Wildcats season) near the end of the game.

Oh well.  They had some students doing the camera work.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MonroviaCat on November 26, 2011, 09:26:07 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 09:25:16 PM
Quote from: MonroviaCat on November 26, 2011, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 08:25:20 PM
What I would give to see a replay of the telecast!!

-Ski
You'd be really disappointed.  It sucked--really choppy video and motion blur.  Audio was good for me most of the game but even that got messed up (along with my Wildcats season) near the end of the game.

Oh well.  They had some students doing the camera work.

-Ski
Seemed like it was more of an issue of the camera they used or bandwidth or something--looked like it was shot via a web-cam--not enough frames per second or something...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 09:35:01 PM
Quote from: MonroviaCat on November 26, 2011, 09:26:07 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 09:25:16 PM
Quote from: MonroviaCat on November 26, 2011, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 26, 2011, 08:25:20 PM
What I would give to see a replay of the telecast!!

-Ski
You'd be really disappointed.  It sucked--really choppy video and motion blur.  Audio was good for me most of the game but even that got messed up (along with my Wildcats season) near the end of the game.

Oh well.  They had some students doing the camera work.

-Ski
Seemed like it was more of an issue of the camera they used or bandwidth or something--looked like it was shot via a web-cam--not enough frames per second or something...

Probably an issue of bandwith.  There were two cameras used.  Both were decent ones.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on November 26, 2011, 10:18:15 PM
wesleydad, teamski,

Congrats to Wesley on a great game over a top notch program in Linfield +K ! :) Maybe we will see you in the semi's, who knows! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 26, 2011, 10:38:40 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 26, 2011, 05:23:15 PM
Also, great to see the few Wesley posters today at the game.  Pawesley, Beenhit2hard, Ski, and Waterboy,  We get another week to enjoy D3 football against a familiar and classy rival.  Will be fun chatting with the UMHB people.

Looking forward to seeing y'all again. Came up there in 2006, hope we can return the hospitality!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 26, 2011, 10:41:13 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 26, 2011, 06:32:37 PM
crualum58, in my opinion this is the least overall talented team that Wesley has had since 2004.  That being said they may be playing the best as a team since the team that went to Mount in 2009.  They are non-descropt on offense except for McSweeney and you can see by the stats today that he can make things happen.  The O line is big and the receivers are getting better as the season goes on.  The defense is what you are used to, big and fast.  The secondary is the weakest part, but came up huge today with the 99 yd int return for a TD.  If UMHB is as usual, run first, throw last, then this should be a good game.  Strength on strength.  The x factor will be McSweeney, if UMHB cant contain him Wesley will have a good shot to win the game.  Looking forward to the game.

UMHB has faced many tough QB's this year: Sed Harris, Jake Mullin x2, Redlands' QB. We do a good job. The secondary will have to get better this week, but overall, our D is looking good.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 26, 2011, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on November 26, 2011, 10:18:15 PM
wesleydad, teamski,

Congrats to Wesley on a great game over a top notch program in Linfield +K ! :) Maybe we will see you in the semi's, who knows! ;D

Got to face UMHB first!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2011, 10:47:25 PM
  What an awesome game to see. I don't know if there are too many games that could have the downs and ups for two teams like we saw today. I too was impressed with Wesley's ability to run down a few players from behind today. Linfield certainly had their way in the first half.   But whatever the coaches did at half sure worked.   

  IMHO McSweeney showed today that he is the most exciting player at the QB position in DIII. He refuses to go down and he makes some eye popping throws. As many hits as he took today and he still gets down field and throws block.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 26, 2011, 11:21:24 PM
Still cant get over how motivated Wesley came out in that 2nd half! The fumble on the kickoff was just what the doctor ordered, and Wesley punched it in. Then the interception return was the turning point. That was a great play by Leon Jones, who I think was scored on in the game earlier. Cant ask for anything more than what the Wolverines put forward in that 2nd half. Absolutely amazing!

UMHB next week. We will see how things go. If I remember right from last year Wesley played great in the secondary giving LiDarral Bailey no where to throw the ball. I think it wont be quite as strong of a secondary performance, but I think if we can stop Bailey on the ground, or keep his gains to a minimum that will be key.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 26, 2011, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 26, 2011, 11:21:24 PM
Still cant get over how motivated Wesley came out in that 2nd half! The fumble on the kickoff was just what the doctor ordered, and Wesley punched it in. Then the interception return was the turning point. That was a great play by Leon Jones, who I think was scored on in the game earlier. Cant ask for anything more than what the Wolverines put forward in that 2nd half. Absolutely amazing!

UMHB next week. We will see how things go. If I remember right from last year Wesley played great in the secondary giving LiDarral Bailey no where to throw the ball. I think it wont be quite as strong of a secondary performance, but I think if we can stop Bailey on the ground, or keep his gains to a minimum that will be key.

LB has played under control and with great patience as he has waited for receivers to open up, and if he can't find one, he'll take it the distance as he did today when he jaunted 78 yards for a TD. He has grown up this year, after struggling early under the pistol formation, he has thrown far fewer INTs since being in the I formation.

It will surely be a great game, and I look forward to it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 26, 2011, 11:43:15 PM
Yeah, well, bleedpurple is a nice new friend of yours from Whitewater.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Assistant Waterboy on November 27, 2011, 05:44:27 PM
  Just got back to Ohio and looks like a lot got covered. I was doing the video on the field during the game and the Wesley coachs who review my video are not going to like the job I did because I was watching the game most of the time and not shooting very good video. Hopefully I get asked to do video again.
  Linfield punched us right in the mouth the whole 1st half and I have to say that I had my doubts about beating Linfield. Obviously Wesley showed why its been one of the top 3 Programs in the last 5 or 6 years in D3. I dont think if we lost this game it should have changed that but I think a lot of people around D3 were doubting if Wesley was still on that level. They still have not been able to get to the level with the you know who's. Hopefully this year is they break thru.
Gotta give props to the O-line for the job the did because they dont get talked about very often. I thought McSweeney was pretty good before the playoffs this year. Well, he's brought it to another level against good teams and is showing that he is one of the top players in D3.
  Let the Purple People eating continue!

  Had a perfect day Saturday. Saw my nephew Ben Knapp  at 8am in the hospital. He smiled. He laughed. He cried and he smiled again. Went and saw the best Wesley Football game Ive ever seen. Unbelievable.

Game Changer!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 27, 2011, 07:51:18 PM
Quote from: Assistant Waterboy on November 27, 2011, 05:44:27 PM

  Had a perfect day Saturday. Saw my nephew Ben Knapp  at 8am in the hospital. He smiled. He laughed. He cried and he smiled again. Went and saw the best Wesley Football game Ive ever seen. Unbelievable.

Game Changer!!!!

It was great to see you and your family at the game.  And, great news on Ben!! 

The game was a classic and one I think we will all be talking about for a very long time.  You just don't see something like that everyday, or maybe even every ten years!   In a way, I see what the Kean coaches felt when they beat Wesley earlier in the year.  They were literally running around like a bunch of kids screaming after we fumbled the ball in the 4th quarter and ended the game.  While the Wesley coaches weren't running around, they definitely felt that euphoria of a game well played with an unlikely turnaround executed with drive and determination.   Looking over at Coach Az, you could see that excitement we all crave in his eyes.  The true talent of the Wolverines came out in that second half on Saturday.  As sloppy as Wesley can play from time to time, you KNOW that their true selves will surface at some point to knock doubters off their walls.  It is an amazing experience to see, and I get to see it every year.  How lucky am I?

Hats off to Coach Drass, Coach Knapp, Coach Azzanesi and crew for one hell of a show this weekend.  That was fun!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 27, 2011, 09:13:00 PM
Ski

We need you to run a covert operation and hijack that film copy it send it to all of us and put it back before anyone knows it's gone.. That is definitely a historic film!!! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 27, 2011, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 27, 2011, 09:13:00 PM
Ski

We need you to run a covert operation and hijack that film copy it send it to all of us and put it back before anyone knows it's gone.. That is definitely a historic film!!!

Trust me, I wish I could!  I don't get access to the goods after the game is done.   :-[

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 27, 2011, 10:39:17 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 27, 2011, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 27, 2011, 09:13:00 PM
Ski

We need you to run a covert operation and hijack that film copy it send it to all of us and put it back before anyone knows it's gone.. That is definitely a historic film!!!

Trust me, I wish I could!  I don't get access to the goods after the game is done.   :-[

-Ski

I will definitely be looking for some highlights or something! This definitely showed the true 2011 Wesley College Wolverines. If anyone has a link to anything like a highlight, I cant wait to see it!  8-)

Also IMO, Leon Jones' interception return deserves a play of the week honor.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: repete on November 28, 2011, 02:53:30 AM
This isn't much and certainly doesn't capture the intensity of the game. But here are a few shaky,  random end zone clips from my phone. Unfortunately for the Wesley side, my battery was dying as the Wolverines were getting going. Most are high def, but not all.

http://youtu.be/rrae0MmrBKs (http://youtu.be/rrae0MmrBKs)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 28, 2011, 03:03:41 PM
Quote from: repete on November 28, 2011, 02:53:30 AM
This isn't much and certainly doesn't capture the intensity of the game. But here are a few shaky,  random end zone clips from my phone. Unfortunately for the Wesley side, my battery was dying as the Wolverines were getting going. Most are high def, but not all.

http://youtu.be/rrae0MmrBKs (http://youtu.be/rrae0MmrBKs)

Well it's something and better than nothing.  Thanks for posting.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 28, 2011, 08:42:54 PM
forgot that wesley won last year 19 - 9 and pretty much shut down the UMHB offense.  will be interesting to see how the game plays out this year.  is the UMHB offense that much improved?  wesley is weaker in the secondary but I dont think that will play that much into the game unless UMHB changes its philosphy which I doubt they will do.  The wesley offense is different this year with McSweeney at QB, will UMHB be able to stop both the run and pass if it is used.  I still have concern about the lack of a running game from someone other than Shane.  Linfield showed they were susceptable to the QB keeper, I dont think UMHB will likely be that generous.  Again the O line will have to have a big game and wear down UMHB.  As usual this will be a good game between 2 familiar foes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Assistant Waterboy on November 28, 2011, 10:07:03 PM
 Was looking at ETBU against Wesley and UMHB and saw Sed Harris rushed for 290 yds and threw for 117 1 TD against UMHB. WOW!! Against Wesley Harris rushed for 61 yds and threw for 259 1 TD and 4 INTs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 29, 2011, 08:15:25 AM
Sean's great call of Leon's Pick-six.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvrWyJiHeH4
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 29, 2011, 12:41:10 PM
And I missed the actual catch... DoH!   ::)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Assistant Waterboy on November 30, 2011, 10:46:34 AM
Ok, I was looking at UMHB Games this year and box scores and came to one conclusion. Make Bailey beat us in the air. Stack 8 or 9 in the box, man up and dare them to throw the ball. Although I'm just an idiot and shouldn't give advise to coach Drass considering Baileys numbers last year against Wesley looked like this 8 for 23, 97yds, 1 int. 20 carries for -13. I think thats a pretty good defensive scheme. I would probably stay with that.
  The most Bailey's thrown for is 281 yds on 30 attempts  1td, 3ints against UW La-crosse. If he lets the ball go that many times against us there will be 2 to 4 ints I figure. I know he's good but they said that last year and they haven't seen anyone like Wesley since last year. I know UMHB hasn't had to throw the ball that much this year because there running game has been so good and that's what will end them in the playoffs, because at some point you will have to put the ball in the air against a good defense because the run isn't working as it did against Sul Ross State. That will be Wesley's advantage because defenses cant fill the box unless they want to pay. Ask Hobart what happened when they blitzed everyone.
  I know anyone can win at this point and UMHB is very good. Just want to stir the pot a little.

PS: Not worried about the rain and wind. Played Salisbury in some 40 degree sideways rain for a half. No advantage either way.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on November 30, 2011, 11:25:32 AM
I think this shapes up to be another great game. Two teams who have had great seasons and programs who are used to playing at this time of year.  Hard to separate the two teams (which is why it's great that in D3 we actually get to play the games!).  I am picking Wesley to win.  It takes really strong leadership to come from behind the way the Wolverines did last week.  In addition, they are the more balanced team offensively and McSweeny appears to be a special player who is playing with a lot of confidence right now. If the Wolverines don't revert to how they played the first 6 quarters this post-season, they should have what it takes to win, even on the road.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 30, 2011, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 28, 2011, 08:42:54 PM
forgot that wesley won last year 19 - 9 and pretty much shut down the UMHB offense.  will be interesting to see how the game plays out this year.  is the UMHB offense that much improved?  wesley is weaker in the secondary but I dont think that will play that much into the game unless UMHB changes its philosphy which I doubt they will do.  The wesley offense is different this year with McSweeney at QB, will UMHB be able to stop both the run and pass if it is used.  I still have concern about the lack of a running game from someone other than Shane.  Linfield showed they were susceptable to the QB keeper, I dont think UMHB will likely be that generous.  Again the O line will have to have a big game and wear down UMHB.  As usual this will be a good game between 2 familiar foes.

Yeah, we shot ourselves, too, by not scoring twice in the red zone. Your D stepped up, our O broke down.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 30, 2011, 11:28:55 AM
Quote from: Assistant Waterboy on November 30, 2011, 10:46:34 AM
Ok, I was looking at UMHB Games this year and box scores and came to one conclusion. Make Bailey beat us in the air. Stack 8 or 9 in the box, man up and dare them to throw the ball. Although I'm just an idiot and shouldn't give advise to coach Drass considering Baileys numbers last year against Wesley looked like this 8 for 23, 97yds, 1 int. 20 carries for -13. I think thats a pretty good defensive scheme. I would probably stay with that.
  The most Bailey's thrown for is 281 yds on 30 attempts  1td, 3ints against UW La-crosse. If he lets the ball go that many times against us there will be 2 to 4 ints I figure. I know he's good but they said that last year and they haven't seen anyone like Wesley since last year. I know UMHB hasn't had to throw the ball that much this year because there running game has been so good and that's what will end them in the playoffs, because at some point you will have to put the ball in the air against a good defense because the run isn't working as it did against Sul Ross State. That will be Wesley's advantage because defenses cant fill the box unless they want to pay. Ask Hobart what happened when they blitzed everyone.
  I know anyone can win at this point and UMHB is very good. Just want to stir the pot a little.

PS: Not worried about the rain and wind. Played Salisbury in some 40 degree sideways rain for a half. No advantage either way.

We were running the Pistol at the beginning of the year. That is different than our usual I formation. Since the switch, Bailey has been much better, throwing only 1 or 2 INT's. We can pass the ball, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 30, 2011, 11:47:59 AM
Not saying that UMHB cant throw it. But they wont unless they have to. Looking at stats this year so far, and havent thrown the ball more than 20 times since the Southern Oregon game midway through the season. Even though it may be a Wesley weak point, make UMHB throw the ball to win. Bailey is still a QB that will beat you with his legs. Not his arm.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 30, 2011, 12:14:42 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 30, 2011, 11:47:59 AM
Not saying that UMHB cant throw it. But they wont unless they have to. Looking at stats this year so far, and havent thrown the ball more than 20 times since the Southern Oregon game midway through the season. Even though it may be a Wesley weak point, make UMHB throw the ball to win. Bailey is still a QB that will beat you with his legs. Not his arm.
You are right. He will beat you with his legs, if he has to. There was a point on Saturday where we were driving, needed a big throw and catch, LB went back, stepped up, could have run, but didn't. He threw a strike and we got the first down. In the past, he may have ran. We haven't had to throw a lot, but if we need to, I believe we can.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 30, 2011, 09:43:30 PM
More highlights from the Linfield game if anyone is interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rXOpHZoDq8&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rXOpHZoDq8&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 30, 2011, 11:55:08 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 30, 2011, 09:43:30 PM
More highlights from the Linfield game if anyone is interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rXOpHZoDq8&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rXOpHZoDq8&feature=youtu.be)

Sweet!!!  There were some really good plays out of that game!!  McSweeny is a machine on a mission, pure and simple.  I haven't seen the guy play at such a level.  I am really looking forward to the UMHB game just to see what he does.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on December 01, 2011, 12:20:29 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 30, 2011, 11:55:08 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 30, 2011, 09:43:30 PM
More highlights from the Linfield game if anyone is interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rXOpHZoDq8&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rXOpHZoDq8&feature=youtu.be)

Sweet!!!  There were some really good plays out of that game!!  McSweeny is a machine on a mission, pure and simple.  I haven't seen the guy play at such a level.  I am really looking forward to the UMHB game just to see what he does.-Ski

As are we...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: repete on December 01, 2011, 01:34:46 PM
Saw him for the first time last week. It was cool to watch from the endzone, which I'm guessing are student seats most of the season. From that angle, what really stuck out were his vision and a very nice burst. He really seemed to play with a purpose. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 01, 2011, 03:11:01 PM
Since you still are discussing last Saturday, from the local LINFIELD paper...

http://web.newsregister.com/news/results.cfm?story_no=274624 (http://web.newsregister.com/news/results.cfm?story_no=274624)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 03:58:12 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 01, 2011, 03:11:01 PM
Since you still are discussing last Saturday, from the local LINFIELD paper...

http://web.newsregister.com/news/results.cfm?story_no=274624 (http://web.newsregister.com/news/results.cfm?story_no=274624)

Thanks!  +k!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 01, 2011, 04:57:07 PM
teamski,

Sounds like Saturday will more about the running game for both teams! IMHO, McSweeney's play will determine if Wesley wins this one, your thoughts? :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 01, 2011, 06:00:02 PM
Raider 68,

Im not ski  ;D but I think that hits the nail on the head perfectly! McSweeny's play will be a big factor in this one. Just like last week vs. Linfield. If he is able to make things happen in the air, hit his recievers, and on the ground with his feet, then Wesley will have good success on offense. If not, it will be much like the first half of the Linfield game. The man is playing with a purpose right now, its exciting to watch.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 01, 2011, 07:29:58 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 01, 2011, 06:00:02 PM
Raider 68,

Im not ski  ;D but I think that hits the nail on the head perfectly! McSweeny's play will be a big factor in this one. Just like last week vs. Linfield. If he is able to make things happen in the air, hit his recievers, and on the ground with his feet, then Wesley will have good success on offense. If not, it will be much like the first half of the Linfield game. The man is playing with a purpose right now, its exciting to watch.

thewaterboy,

Thanks for your post. I saw him against the Raiders a few years ago and I was impressed then! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2011, 07:33:42 PM
 I think a bit of the run game will fall on Askia Jahad. He is a very hard runner and can break tackles as well!!! That will free up McSweeney and keep UMHB's D honest. McSweeney has been good throwing on the run as well because the receivers keep moving and get open .

I understand that  Bailey can throw  but will he have enough time to find his receivers?   Last week Inns threw a lot of timing routes but when he sat in the pocket he was in trouble! We'll see if Wesley can stop him from making plays once he gets flushed. If both teams play D like they can this could be a special teams game!

  Hope those Santa Ana winds don't hit Texas Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2011, 07:40:33 PM
pawesley, doesnt look like that will happen.  just checked the weather and they are calling for t-storms during the entire game.  looks like whomever takes care of the ball will win the game.  shame that the weather may play a part in the game.  The O line will have to play big.  I agree Jahad will have to get some yards to offset the likely keying on mcsweeney.  they have not run the ball well outside of mcsweeney yet in the playoffs, this week it will be needed especially with the weather forecast.  I just hope that they dont get too conservative as they have done before.  I am starting to think that they are the better team here and will win the game, would not have thought that earlier in the season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on December 01, 2011, 08:27:37 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 01, 2011, 07:40:33 PM
pawesley, doesnt look like that will happen.  just checked the weather and they are calling for t-storms during the entire game.  looks like whomever takes care of the ball will win the game.  shame that the weather may play a part in the game.  The O line will have to play big.  I agree Jahad will have to get some yards to offset the likely keying on mcsweeney.  they have not run the ball well outside of mcsweeney yet in the playoffs, this week it will be needed especially with the weather forecast.  I just hope that they dont get too conservative as they have done before.  I am starting to think that they are the better team here and will win the game, would not have thought that earlier in the season.

Still not sure why you are suddenly feeling Wesley has the upper hand. Both teams are playing well, UMHB's O line is tough, LB can run and evade giving big dual threat possibilities, and our O has faced several dual threat QB's this year. Will be interesting and fun.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 01, 2011, 08:46:11 PM
Can't wait till Saturday - should be a good one.  Agree with you all that Shane's the key to our success and hope he's feeling confident and comfortable come game time.  When he's hot I don't think anybody can stop him.  Hope he doesn't read this board - no pressure or anything young man ;)))
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on December 01, 2011, 08:55:26 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on December 01, 2011, 08:46:11 PM
Can't wait till Saturday - should be a good one.  Agree with you all that Shane's the key to our success and hope he's feeling confident and comfortable come game time.  When he's hot I don't think anybody can stop him.  Hope he doesn't read this board - no pressure or anything young man ;)))

We have a great D. The passing D has gotten better, makes stops when it really needs them, and we are stout on the run. Anticipation mounts!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2011, 09:29:13 PM
umhb2001, it is just a feeling.  This is essentially the same UMHB team from last year.  I know LB is a year older and possibly better at QB, but something tells me that Wesley is just doing something right.  They easily could have lost to Hobart, but didn't.  Last week they looked like they always look in the game the get knocked out, very conservative on offense and just not making plays.  Then something happened and they exploded.  I am well aware of UMHB's defense as I have seen them play 3 times and I know that you have played duel threats this year, but I am just not sure if that will matter.  I am not going to site any specific stat or anything else, just think that they are better and will win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on December 01, 2011, 04:57:07 PM
teamski,

Sounds like Saturday will more about the running game for both teams! IMHO, McSweeney's play will determine if Wesley wins this one, your thoughts? :)

Well, as mentioned above, McSweeny is important, but I think that he is not the only player out there.  DE_Wesley_fan mentioned Askia Jahad.  I think we are all overlooking him in light of McSweeny's performance last week.  Jahad is a bruising running back (check the highlight film) and did one hell of a job taking over for Brandon Wright.  I have been really impressed by him this year.  Anyways, you can bet that if the UMHB starts targeting McSweeny with spies, expect Jahad to pick up on screens or options.   

Wesley did have problems with the sweeps, but when they started running up the middle in the second half, they finally nailed a counter for big yards.  That is definitely a big strength of the Wesley offense.  They seem to be more adaptable this year once the adjustments to the defensive schemes are made, than what they did last year.  No doubt this is due to the extra benefit that McSweeny's legs have compared to Sottilaire. 

Nasty weather... I hate it.  But at least Wesley has been thoroughly tested in it this year, so no big surprises.  Now if the weather was 20 degrees and snow, I couldn't be so confident.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 01, 2011, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
Nasty weather... I hate it.  But at least Wesley has been thoroughly tested in it this year, so no big surprises.  Now if the weather was 20 degrees and snow, I couldn't be so confident.....

-Ski

Funny that with a name like Ski, the weather you describe (plus a nice hill) would be your favorite!! (https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi395.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp31%2FYanglow%2FGif%2Flaughing.gif%3Ft%3D1319727824&hash=ae20fbe27f6bcbe5bc2078d49c9d8071298bd626)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:54:21 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 01, 2011, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
Nasty weather... I hate it.  But at least Wesley has been thoroughly tested in it this year, so no big surprises.  Now if the weather was 20 degrees and snow, I couldn't be so confident.....

-Ski

Funny that with a name like Ski, the weather you describe (plus a nice hill) would be your favorite!! (https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi395.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp31%2FYanglow%2FGif%2Flaughing.gif%3Ft%3D1319727824&hash=ae20fbe27f6bcbe5bc2078d49c9d8071298bd626)

Well, I was born and raised in Milwaukee, so you are half correct!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 02, 2011, 12:18:58 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:54:21 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 01, 2011, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
Nasty weather... I hate it.  But at least Wesley has been thoroughly tested in it this year, so no big surprises.  Now if the weather was 20 degrees and snow, I couldn't be so confident.....

-Ski

Funny that with a name like Ski, the weather you describe (plus a nice hill) would be your favorite!! (https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi395.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp31%2FYanglow%2FGif%2Flaughing.gif%3Ft%3D1319727824&hash=ae20fbe27f6bcbe5bc2078d49c9d8071298bd626)

Well, I was born and raised in Milwaukee, so you are half correct!

-Ski

Ok, so now I get it. The name Ski has less to do with a particular snow or water sport, but more about an ethnic background maybe? Being from Milwaukee, that sort of narrows it down!!  ;)  Packer fan, by chance?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2011, 01:01:49 AM
Quote from: BoBo on December 02, 2011, 12:18:58 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:54:21 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 01, 2011, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
Nasty weather... I hate it.  But at least Wesley has been thoroughly tested in it this year, so no big surprises.  Now if the weather was 20 degrees and snow, I couldn't be so confident.....

-Ski

Funny that with a name like Ski, the weather you describe (plus a nice hill) would be your favorite!! (https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi395.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp31%2FYanglow%2FGif%2Flaughing.gif%3Ft%3D1319727824&hash=ae20fbe27f6bcbe5bc2078d49c9d8071298bd626)

Well, I was born and raised in Milwaukee, so you are half correct!

-Ski

Ok, so now I get it. The name Ski has less to do with a particular snow or water sport, but more about an ethnic background maybe? Being from Milwaukee, that sort of narrows it down!!  ;)  Packer fan, by chance?

You better believe it.  I paid my dues as a kid crying in my pillow when David Whitehurst would throw another interception to complete out yet another crappy season.  My allegiance only extends to the Badgers as Wesley takes priority over UWW, of course.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 02, 2011, 01:31:50 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2011, 01:01:49 AM
Quote from: BoBo on December 02, 2011, 12:18:58 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:54:21 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 01, 2011, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
Nasty weather... I hate it.  But at least Wesley has been thoroughly tested in it this year, so no big surprises.  Now if the weather was 20 degrees and snow, I couldn't be so confident.....

-Ski

Funny that with a name like Ski, the weather you describe (plus a nice hill) would be your favorite!! (https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi395.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp31%2FYanglow%2FGif%2Flaughing.gif%3Ft%3D1319727824&hash=ae20fbe27f6bcbe5bc2078d49c9d8071298bd626)

Well, I was born and raised in Milwaukee, so you are half correct!

-Ski

Ok, so now I get it. The name Ski has less to do with a particular snow or water sport, but more about an ethnic background maybe? Being from Milwaukee, that sort of narrows it down!!  ;)  Packer fan, by chance?

You better believe it.  I paid my dues as a kid crying in my pillow when David Whitehurst would throw another interception to complete out yet another crappy season.  My allegiance only extends to the Badgers as Wesley takes priority over UWW, of course.  ;)

-Ski

Glad those days are long gone. Did you hear that the new stock sale starts next tuesday...only $250 each.  I got 2 shares last time at $200 each.  Best investment I ever made.  ;)

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2011, 01:42:22 AM
Quote from: BoBo on December 02, 2011, 01:31:50 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2011, 01:01:49 AM
Quote from: BoBo on December 02, 2011, 12:18:58 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:54:21 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 01, 2011, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
Nasty weather... I hate it.  But at least Wesley has been thoroughly tested in it this year, so no big surprises.  Now if the weather was 20 degrees and snow, I couldn't be so confident.....

-Ski

Funny that with a name like Ski, the weather you describe (plus a nice hill) would be your favorite!! (https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi395.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp31%2FYanglow%2FGif%2Flaughing.gif%3Ft%3D1319727824&hash=ae20fbe27f6bcbe5bc2078d49c9d8071298bd626)

Well, I was born and raised in Milwaukee, so you are half correct!

-Ski

Ok, so now I get it. The name Ski has less to do with a particular snow or water sport, but more about an ethnic background maybe? Being from Milwaukee, that sort of narrows it down!!  ;)  Packer fan, by chance?

You better believe it.  I paid my dues as a kid crying in my pillow when David Whitehurst would throw another interception to complete out yet another crappy season.  My allegiance only extends to the Badgers as Wesley takes priority over UWW, of course.  ;)

-Ski

Glad those days are long gone. Did you hear that the new stock sale starts next tuesday...only $250 each.  I got 2 shares last time at $200 each.  Best investment I ever made.  ;)

Ahh, so that's when!  I was trying to figure out what the true start time was going to be for the sale.  I am definitely getting one this time.  I lamented missing out on the last one. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 02, 2011, 02:36:23 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2011, 01:42:22 AM
Quote from: BoBo on December 02, 2011, 01:31:50 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2011, 01:01:49 AM
Quote from: BoBo on December 02, 2011, 12:18:58 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:54:21 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 01, 2011, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 01, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
Nasty weather... I hate it.  But at least Wesley has been thoroughly tested in it this year, so no big surprises.  Now if the weather was 20 degrees and snow, I couldn't be so confident.....

-Ski

Funny that with a name like Ski, the weather you describe (plus a nice hill) would be your favorite!! (https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi395.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp31%2FYanglow%2FGif%2Flaughing.gif%3Ft%3D1319727824&hash=ae20fbe27f6bcbe5bc2078d49c9d8071298bd626)

Well, I was born and raised in Milwaukee, so you are half correct!

-Ski

Ok, so now I get it. The name Ski has less to do with a particular snow or water sport, but more about an ethnic background maybe? Being from Milwaukee, that sort of narrows it down!!  ;)  Packer fan, by chance?

You better believe it.  I paid my dues as a kid crying in my pillow when David Whitehurst would throw another interception to complete out yet another crappy season.  My allegiance only extends to the Badgers as Wesley takes priority over UWW, of course.  ;)

-Ski

Glad those days are long gone. Did you hear that the new stock sale starts next tuesday...only $250 each.  I got 2 shares last time at $200 each.  Best investment I ever made.  ;)

Ahh, so that's when!  I was trying to figure out what the true start time was going to be for the sale.  I am definitely getting one this time.  I lamented missing out on the last one. 

-Ski

Packers.com (http://www.packers.com/) has the details.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2011, 12:46:21 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 02, 2011, 02:36:23 AM

Packers.com (http://www.packers.com/) has the details.


;D  I am ready!  Thanks for the link.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2011, 12:47:45 PM
I can't believe Kieth shows Wesley losing.  How dare he!  ;)  Ahh well, I guess Wesley is on their own this time around!   8-)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 02, 2011, 03:34:45 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2011, 12:47:45 PM
I can't believe Kieth shows Wesley losing.  How dare he!  ;)  Ahh well, I guess Wesley is on their own this time around!   8-)

-Ski

Teamski,

Should be a great game! I thought the Linfield/Wesley game would be won by a TD, but wow it ended in a blowout. The Wesley/MHB will probably be much closer! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on December 02, 2011, 08:25:59 PM
wesleydad,

I smell something special. I hope Wesley plays their game and takes care of business. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on December 02, 2011, 10:53:22 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on December 02, 2011, 08:25:59 PM
wesleydad,

I smell something special. I hope Wesley plays their game and takes care of business. ;)


It will be a good game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2011, 11:23:49 PM
rams1102, me too.  i can not put my finger on it, but i think they may win this game easily.  ooops may insult some.  enjoy the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 12:04:27 AM
GAMEDAY!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Assistant Waterboy on December 03, 2011, 05:29:14 AM
  Cant wait for kickoff. I think this is going to be a tough game for Wesley because I dont know how good is UMHB. Reason being because of the schedule they played. They have only played 2 top 20 teams Redlands and McMurry and none in the top ten. Where as Wesley has played 3 which all will probably end up in the top 10 rankings at seasons end. The stength of schedule speaks for its self between these two teams. UMHB will see there first top 10 team today lets see how they stack up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 07:56:32 AM
Quote from: Assistant Waterboy on December 03, 2011, 05:29:14 AM
  Cant wait for kickoff. I think this is going to be a tough game for Wesley because I dont know how good is UMHB. 

Interesting comparison.  It will be a tough game, but Wesley knows UMHB.  Wesley spent almost the entire season playing teams they did not know, so this game should have a firm game plan with a better first half.  We all know how tough UMHB is in Belton, so only time will tell how Wesley fares on the field.

One interesting thing to note.  Since 2004, each time Wesley lost a game during the regular season, they lost to UMHB in the playoffs, badly.  I certainly hope they break the duck here!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2011, 10:17:14 AM
first saturday home since the beginning of September and now I know why I go to see all those football games around the east coast, this is dreadfully boring.  The next 3 hours can't go by fast enough to get to game time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2011, 10:26:56 AM
Weather update for those of you at home.  About 70 miles out and very overcast, light to moderate rain, a bit breezy.  It's 60 bit feels cooler. Ski - hadn't made the connection you mentioned about the regular season loss.  Hopefully this is the year we break lots of those curses.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2011, 12:28:23 PM
No rain right now, but brisk breeze I feels just like home :). Let's go!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2011, 12:47:54 PM
Let's go Wesley!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 01:36:17 PM
Now we have the Buffer bugs...... Ugghhh!!!!  Thank the lord for WDEL!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 01:50:51 PM
This is painful not being there with the team!  Ughh!  Great execution....Wesley is peaking.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2011, 01:56:39 PM
ski, they are clearly the better team.  great play and 21 - 3 looks really good.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 03, 2011, 01:57:56 PM
Wesley even has the announcers confused !! ;D :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 01:58:26 PM
My word..... The UMBH announcer stated that Wesley would be happy to take the ball into the half without scoring with 2 minutes left.  I said out loud that he didn't know Wesley that well.  The Wolverines never sit on 2 minutes!  Sure enough Koudoussou makes a reception for 70+ yard right on the next play. Yeou!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2011, 02:00:12 PM
he doesnt know football that well, why would anyone sit on the ball up 11 with 230 left.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 03, 2011, 02:00:29 PM
Is Mayes playing?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2011, 02:03:35 PM
do not think so.  nice interception, qb does not throw the ball very well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 02:05:03 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on December 03, 2011, 02:00:29 PM
Is Mayes playing?

No, he is out for the season unfortunately.  Wesley up 21-3 at the half.  Wow!!  To win the game, you have to play 60 minutes.  I think Wesley is more than aware of that.

McSweeny is playing like an ace and the defense is outstanding so far!!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2011, 02:07:48 PM
Feeling good about this as long we don't make stupid mistakes (but Linfield probably thought the same thing last week).  Should be able to keep taking advantage of #15 - Berilli had him beat twice that we couldn't get him the ball.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2011, 02:09:47 PM
Just have to keep our heads!! Play 4 quarters!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 03, 2011, 02:20:04 PM
It is 52 and windy here on Chincoteague,,just like a dover saturday afternoon. 8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: repete on December 03, 2011, 02:22:07 PM
Nice half, Wesley! Finish off that purple.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2011, 02:23:07 PM
The D is playing well.I don't like the Zone pass D tho
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MonroviaCat on December 03, 2011, 02:39:58 PM
Wesley doing what I expected--stopping the MHB running game, making them throw and making them pay for throwing!  And of course the CRUs weakness (pass defense) has been exposed and McSweeney and company are taking advantage.  I think my Wildcats could have done the same vs. MHB--Wes vs. Lin should have been this round! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2011, 02:44:05 PM
Cru heads were down walking off the field before punt!!! Look very frustrated
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2011, 02:53:03 PM
McSweeney is throwing a lil tentivlyv
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 02:56:38 PM
What a remarkably flat third quarter for Wesley.  Definitely a conservative streak to allow the defense to finish off the game, it seems.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2011, 02:59:26 PM
got to tackle better
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2011, 03:00:05 PM
dont like the offense going conservative.  score and put the game out of reach.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 03:08:20 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 03, 2011, 03:00:05 PM
dont like the offense going conservative.  score and put the game out of reach.

I'm hoping they kick it back in here now that UMBH scored. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2011, 03:10:38 PM
what wind ?? 8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2011, 03:29:54 PM
another injury
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 03:52:24 PM
Wow, Wesley almost fell on its own sword there.  UMHB played a hell of a half.  If it wasn't for Wesley keeping penalties to a minimum and McSweeny  securing a couple first downs, coupled with the Defense winning the game, it would have gone the other way.

I'm numb right now.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2011, 03:53:44 PM
Wesley's D line is hurting@!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 03, 2011, 04:06:13 PM
Congratulations!  Great game.  McSweeny made the plays in the 4th quarter that were necessary to keep UMHB at bay.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2011, 04:09:45 PM
Holy crap!  Should never have been that close. 3rd qtr play calling was terrible. Hope to see you all in Ohio.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 03, 2011, 04:23:50 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2011, 03:53:44 PM
Wesley's D line is hurting@!!

I have no eligibility left :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 03, 2011, 04:24:04 PM
Not YOU guys again????   8-)

I was hoping for a chance to get a little payback from 2004, but way to go down and take care of business Wesley.

Ski....Wesleydad......see you next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 04:30:50 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 03, 2011, 04:24:04 PM
Not YOU guys again????   8-)

I was hoping for a chance to get a little payback from 2004, but way to go down and take care of business Wesley.

Ski....Wesleydad......see you next week.

Yep, we're back. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 04:35:37 PM
Well, Wesley broke a small duck today by advancing into the Semi's with a single season loss.  Previous teams weren't able to do that. 

Not a pretty second half, but Wesley showed some poise out there.  The defense got beat up but held UMHB admirably at the end.  Ask Coach Drass and he will be happy with the effort Wesley put into the game.   Now to deal with that Purple duck. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 03, 2011, 05:36:30 PM
It appears Piloto has a hip injury, but I thinking he might be able to go.  I think our freshman QB is pretty decent, and he will get more reps this week to get ready.  LK took it out of his hands, and just let the defense do their thing.  And PHHHEWWW...did they.  They were so dominant it was scary. 

I think it's going to be a barn-burner.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 03, 2011, 06:01:59 PM
Gotta win on the road.
Good job.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 03, 2011, 06:46:58 PM
Going to be an interesting Semi-Final.  Wesley on a roll and Mount down to their freshman, 3rd string QB that has attempted a whopping 11 passes in his career.   Starter has been out for a month, comes back today and is lost again.  Back-up, who has started the last 4 is hurt and very questionable for next week.  Hmmm, going to be interesting indeed. 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 07:14:56 PM
Quote from: HScoach on December 03, 2011, 06:46:58 PM
Going to be an interesting Semi-Final.  Wesley on a roll and Mount down to their freshman, 3rd string QB that has attempted a whopping 11 passes in his career.   Starter has been out for a month, comes back today and is lost again.  Back-up, who has started the last 4 is hurt and very questionable for next week.  Hmmm, going to be interesting indeed.

This is perhaps Wesley's best shot at getting to the finals.  They MUST put together two halves to win against MU.  Remember in the 2009 Semi's, Wesley was trailing the Raiders 10-7 in the 4th quarter and just didn't have the juice to finish the game off (plus the option offense with Shorts at the reigns).  I think the team is going to go to Ohio with a different attitude now that they have been there already facing most likely a better team with Cecil Shorts.  McSweeny quarterbacked the last semi against MU and I know he is hungry to win one against the Raiders.  It will be a good game for sure!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on December 03, 2011, 07:27:10 PM
Just got home after the game.  Will post more thoughts later but just wanted to say congratulations and good luck against Mount Union.   Hope I get to root for you guys in person at the Stagg Bowl!

Good to see an old friend from Wesley and to meet a couple of new ones.  Hope you enjoyed the post game meal at Schoepf's!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2011, 07:40:28 PM
roo, you know i am also hoping that we get to cheer for someone that we actually care about whether they win.

mount guys, if it comes down to the freshman QB, then Wesley has a great chance.  Their weak point is the secondary, if the D line is healthy and they can stop the run, then it is a game.  2 years ago the difference in the game was a guy named Shorts, he is not there, so Wesley has a chance.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2011, 08:03:53 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 03, 2011, 07:40:28 PM
roo, you know i am also hoping that we get to cheer for someone that we actually care about whether they win.

mount guys, if it comes down to the freshman QB, then Wesley has a great chance.  Their weak point is the secondary, if the D line is healthy and they can stop the run, then it is a game.  2 years ago the difference in the game was a guy named Shorts, he is not there, so Wesley has a chance.

A secondary that has the habit of picking off the ball as of late.   Three picks today.  ;) 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2011, 08:07:58 PM
ski, that is true but they did not look good in the second half when UMHB got back into the game.  The D line will have to be at their best if Mount has to go to the freshman QB.  Stop the run and make them do something they wont want to do, throw the ball and Wesley has a chance.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on December 03, 2011, 09:07:29 PM
Great game Wesley. Way to get us down. I knew that if we came out and made errors, as we did in our other 3 losses, we would have a tough time winning this one, and we did. Lidarral had a tough stretch but came back to make some great plays for us. I guess we'll see you in the regular season next year. Good luck vs Mount Union. Bring it home.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2011, 09:28:27 PM
Agree with previous posters on all the reasons why there is a good chance we can finally get Mt U this time.  Really thought we would have done it last time except for Shorts going in as QB.  Was very pleased with our improved discipline again this week and so few penalties.  Defense came up big, especially considering the did it without Mayes.  All around secondary has improved but there's still a weak link that could be exploited. Will be interesting to see each team's game plan and who can take advantage of the other' possible weaknesses. Roocru - enjoyed meeting you in person and hope to see you again in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 03, 2011, 09:39:22 PM
I enjoyed the Game today,,and again, good teams find ways to win,,and Wesley did.

Good luck this week vs the PURPLE Raiders,,Mount's o sounds a little beat up,,and Wesley's D line seemed  a bit injured today .  May the best tream win !!(trying to remain neutral)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 03, 2011, 11:46:09 PM
Congratulations to the Wesley Wolverines on another gut-check win.  A very impressive couple of weeks. Should be a great game next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 04, 2011, 12:38:11 AM
Way to go Wesley! Scared the crap out of me but the defense stepped up big when they needed to on UMHB's last drive. The offense looked sharp at times, especially that first drive! On to Alliance! Wish I didnt schedule the ACT that day, so if the game is at 12 i might be a little late  :P .....but hopefully the TV schedule changes things and gives me time to get down there  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 04, 2011, 01:40:03 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 03, 2011, 08:07:58 PM
ski, that is true but they did not look good in the second half when UMHB got back into the game.  The D line will have to be at their best if Mount has to go to the freshman QB.  Stop the run and make them do something they wont want to do, throw the ball and Wesley has a chance.

Don't forget the 3rd quarter with the defense being left out on the field forever.  They got plain worn out!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 04, 2011, 06:12:59 AM
in the end the issue I have is with the offense in the 3rd Q going flat.  2 turnovers inside the 50 and no points and not even any plays that looked like they were going for points.  The kicking game is also an issue, a blocked field goal and extra point again today.  That extra point was huge, up 4 and I have no issue with the 4th and 1 decision.  This week will be real good, chatting with another group of knowledgable football people.  I will be making the trip, just haven't decided on the leave time yet, but heavily leaning towards Friday afternoon to get there for the Friday night get together with the Mount people.  I have hung with them a couple of times and they are great hosts.  Skunks Sidekick will keep us Wesley folk informed as to the Friday plans and it would be great to have some more Wesley folk there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Assistant Waterboy on December 04, 2011, 06:29:18 AM
  Not happy about losing all my fingernails in the second half. Wesley had 2 good opportunitys to put this game away in the 3rd Quarter but failed to. I watched the game at AI Dupont Hospital in Wilmington Delaware with my sister in-law Cindy Knapp. The nurses threatened to sedate me if I didnt hold it together.
   South Bracket (the toughest all around bracket) in 3 games: 49-71 848yds 13tds 2ints Passing.  67att  348yds 2tds Rushing.   Shane McSweeny MVP

Get Better BK
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 04, 2011, 09:25:40 AM
One thing I was really happy with was Wesley defense's ability to deal with the no-huddle offense.  There were so many teams this year that used it to upset Wesley's defensive schemes that the players are now automatically setting up for it instead of rushing to their positions at the last minute.  Huntingdon still had the quickest no-huddle Wesley saw all year.  They were FAST!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Assistant Waterboy on December 04, 2011, 11:44:29 AM
  Time to take another purple team down. Is Wesley going to finally get to the Stagg Bowl? I believe we have the Gamechanger in McSweeny. Im from NEO and still dont know what a Purple Raider is.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on December 04, 2011, 11:50:00 AM
Congrats on the big win, Wesley. good luck against MU.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 04, 2011, 11:58:24 AM
Interesting, somebody karma sniped the entire Wesley fan base.  Nice!   ::)  I  really wish they did away with it altogether.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 04, 2011, 12:07:31 PM
ski

it happens every day lately.. Cowards is what they are!!!

+1 to all the Wesley faithful even you BH2H!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 04, 2011, 02:07:09 PM
+1 to y'all from me, too.  Please let us have a different team in the Stagg this year. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 04, 2011, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 04, 2011, 12:07:31 PM
ski

it happens every day lately.. Cowards is what they are!!!

+1 to all the Wesley faithful even you BH2H!!!! ;D

Thanks, I need all the help I can get,,should be a great ball game. !! :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 04, 2011, 02:47:28 PM
The pickers of the pre season poll did pretty well this year
#'s 1 , 2, 3, and 5 are still playing,,Nice job D3 !!!! 8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: purpled on December 04, 2011, 05:26:55 PM
Hey Wesley fans! Congrats on making the final four! A great accomplishment! As of today the forecast for Saturday is a high of 30 with a 50% chance of snow...you'll be in the open stands so bring your long johns!  ;D

Have a good trip and be safe. See ya Saturday!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: raiderpa on December 04, 2011, 09:09:07 PM
Assistant Waterboy,  A purple raider is a ten time national champion...

that being said, we look forward to the visit of the Wolverines and their fine fine football team. we expect nothing less than a great game from the toughest opponent we will have faced thus far and by no means think the Stagg Bowl is our birthright.  We invite any fans who wish to join us for fellowship and game conversation, Friday night, probably at Rey's, a local bar and wing place that used to be a BW3.  Skunks Sidekick will set it up probably and put it on the board later this week. 
There is a Holiday Inn Express in town and a Comfort Inn which are both respectable, and the Canton area, 25 minutes or so west is the home of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and many fans stay in the Belden Village area and get a visit in to the Hall while they are here.
Finally for those who cannot make it, early word is that ESPN is televising both semis, we'll see.
Respectfully looking forward to a great game and safe travels for your fans...you will have to go a long way to match the Wabash fans for their numbers and passion.  See you Saturday...hope both teams show their best
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 04, 2011, 09:20:13 PM
raiderpa, I always stay at the Super8 on State Street.  Within walking distance of both Rey's and Don Ponchos if I wanted to, looked it up last night.  Also just a short trip to Mount, 5 - 10 mins in traffic if I remember correctly.  Now that I am old, got the AARP discount so the room is around $50.  Almost certainly going to be there by 900, have to see if I can get a friend to cover my classroom for the last hour or so of the day so I can get on the road by 2.  Hope to find out game time soon, likely still 1200.  Will be nice that it is on ESPN, but not as nice as it will be being there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 04, 2011, 10:58:44 PM
I just hope the townies don't start taunting the Wesley fans like they did the last time Wesley visited Alliance.  It got pretty bad.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 04, 2011, 11:32:47 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 04, 2011, 10:58:44 PM
I just hope the townies don't start taunting the Wesley fans like they did the last time Wesley visited Alliance.  It got pretty bad.

-Ski

Ski...ski....ski.....that was primarily brought on by a few of your players playing to the crowd.  They couldn't help themselves but to make gestures, and it escalated from there. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 04, 2011, 11:37:51 PM
Quote from: raiderpa on December 04, 2011, 09:09:07 PM
Assistant Waterboy,  A purple raider is a ten time national champion...

that being said, we look forward to the visit of the Wolverines and their fine fine football team. we expect nothing less than a great game from the toughest opponent we will have faced thus far and by no means think the Stagg Bowl is our birthright.  We invite any fans who wish to join us for fellowship and game conversation, Friday night, probably at Rey's, a local bar and wing place that used to be a BW3.  Skunks Sidekick will set it up probably and put it on the board later this week. 
There is a Holiday Inn Express in town and a Comfort Inn which are both respectable, and the Canton area, 25 minutes or so west is the home of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and many fans stay in the Belden Village area and get a visit in to the Hall while they are here.
Finally for those who cannot make it, early word is that ESPN is televising both semis, we'll see.
Respectfully looking forward to a great game and safe travels for your fans...you will have to go a long way to match the Wabash fans for their numbers and passion.  See you Saturday...hope both teams show their best

People keep saying that but all we know for sure is they are online on ESPN3.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 04, 2011, 11:46:09 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 04, 2011, 11:32:47 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 04, 2011, 10:58:44 PM
I just hope the townies don't start taunting the Wesley fans like they did the last time Wesley visited Alliance.  It got pretty bad.

-Ski

Ski...ski....ski.....that was primarily brought on by a few of your players playing to the crowd.  They couldn't help themselves but to make gestures, and it escalated from there.

And?  At halftime, one of the townies got up and walked towards the Wesley crowd and asked if they wanted a fight.  I know at least one of them was talking about the "cheap shot" on the QB.   I was in the camera box above the stands and got an apology from a MU assistant coach stating that they had little control over the townies that showed up for the game.  Regardless what happened between the teams when they shuffled in the locker rooms at halftime, I thought the townies were out of line as the Wesley crowd were mostly parents and kept to themselves for the most part.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 04, 2011, 11:52:20 PM
I am also curious to see if the MU kickers kick their footballs across the field to our sidelines during the pregame like they did last time.  Cecil Shorts did his sprints across the field to our sidelines as well.  This was the only place I ever saw this done and I was really pissed about it. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 05, 2011, 12:58:36 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 04, 2011, 11:46:09 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 04, 2011, 11:32:47 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 04, 2011, 10:58:44 PM
I just hope the townies don't start taunting the Wesley fans like they did the last time Wesley visited Alliance.  It got pretty bad.

-Ski

Ski...ski....ski.....that was primarily brought on by a few of your players playing to the crowd.  They couldn't help themselves but to make gestures, and it escalated from there.

And?  At halftime, one of the townies got up and walked towards the Wesley crowd and asked if they wanted a fight.  I know at least one of them was talking about the "cheap shot" on the QB.   I was in the camera box above the stands and got an apology from a MU assistant coach stating that they had little control over the townies that showed up for the game.  Regardless what happened between the teams when they shuffled in the locker rooms at halftime, I thought the townies were out of line as the Wesley crowd were mostly parents and kept to themselves for the most part.

-Ski

Was he wearing a Purple Raiders #99 jersey?  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 05, 2011, 07:49:44 AM
bleedpurple, no, I will vouch for 70's, he was not involved in it.  I had no issues where I was sitting, in fact the crowd around me was rather cordial, they had many positive things to say about how Wesley played the game, well except for the pop pass play that was called.  Can we make sure that is not in the play book or if it is make sure it is run to the wide side of the field.  I agree with Skunks, the players were rather animated.  And I agree with Ski, the fact that Mount exits the field under the away stands is certainly done to intimidate.  Officials seldom stop normal warm ups, but any issue towards the other sideline should be stopped to avoid issues.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 05, 2011, 08:59:54 AM
Time to get our shot at at least a championship appearance. If Wesley can play relatively penalty and mistake free, I think we have a really good shot at knocking Mount Union off, regardless of who they have playing QB. I think once again the game hinges on the performance of Shane McSweeny, who, throughout these playoffs has solidified himself as the the best quarterback in Division III. No one has been putting up numbers like he has, and the dude is playing with a purpose, and is very fun to watch.

Excited to see Wesley in Ohio again. I wonder if Mount has changed the way they warm up I remember that they were in Wesley's warmup area in 2009 and i think that might have been another attempt to intimidate.

Go Wesley!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 05, 2011, 09:13:39 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 05, 2011, 07:49:44 AM
bleedpurple, no, I will vouch for 70's, he was not involved in it.  I had no issues where I was sitting, in fact the crowd around me was rather cordial, they had many positive things to say about how Wesley played the game, well except for the pop pass play that was called.  Can we make sure that is not in the play book or if it is make sure it is run to the wide side of the field.  I agree with Skunks, the players were rather animated.  And I agree with Ski, the fact that Mount exits the field under the away stands is certainly done to intimidate.  Officials seldom stop normal warm ups, but any issue towards the other sideline should be stopped to avoid issues.

wesleydad,

The Raiders starting this year enter and exit the field from the Northwest corner. The visiting team enters the field from the east side if the field so, both teams are not even close to one another! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 05, 2011, 09:38:38 AM
Raider68, just thought it was weird when they came across the field at halftime to exit under the stands when there was a clear exit by the scoreboard to go to the building they went to that day.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on December 05, 2011, 11:07:24 AM
If I had to guess... this ESPN3 thing could be similar to what I-AA does with its quarterfinals.  ESPN/2/U probably won't pick up a game, but they'll make both broadcasts available via ESPN Syndication for local stations/networks to pick up.  Then again it's possible ESPN could just go for the ESPN3 exclusive too.

Regardless we'll have the game on WDEL, and the play-by-play guy won't have any brisket in his stomach this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 05, 2011, 12:44:56 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on December 05, 2011, 11:07:24 AM
If I had to guess... this ESPN3 thing could be similar to what I-AA does with its quarterfinals.  ESPN/2/U probably won't pick up a game, but they'll make both broadcasts available via ESPN Syndication for local stations/networks to pick up. Then again it's possible ESPN could just go for the ESPN3 exclusive too.

Regardless we'll have the game on WDEL, and the play-by-play guy won't have any brisket in his stomach this week.

That's correct -- that's how this works also. Don't know if/when we will know more.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 05, 2011, 02:15:23 PM
From the highlights of the UMU/Wabash game, it certainly looked like Wabash really shot themselves in the foot repeatedly rather than an outright stomping by UMU.  If Wesley keeps it clean like they have for the past two weeks, I think they have a legitimate shot at a win.    Shut that offense down like the three quarters of the 2009 game and Wesley can break the purple duck.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 05, 2011, 02:31:08 PM
BIG TIME congratulations to Shane McSweeny for making the D3F 2011 South Region Offensive Player of the year!  Well done, mate!

Also, Congrads to Chris Mayes for making 2011 D3F 1st Team South Region Defense!

Well done to Sean McAndrew and Jeff Morgan in making 2011 D3F 3rd Team South Region Offense and Defense!!!

You guys rock!   :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: purpled on December 05, 2011, 03:20:02 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 05, 2011, 02:15:23 PM
From the highlights of the UMU/Wabash game, it certainly looked like Wabash really shot themselves in the foot repeatedly rather than an outright stomping by UMU.  If Wesley keeps it clean like they have for the past two weeks, I think they have a legitimate shot at a win.    Shut that offense down like the three quarters of the 2009 game and Wesley can break the purple duck.

-Ski

Ski,

Wabash didn't shoot themselves in the foot...Mount's D did. And we're not purple ducks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PurpleSuit on December 05, 2011, 03:28:43 PM
Quote from: purpled on December 05, 2011, 03:20:02 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 05, 2011, 02:15:23 PM
From the highlights of the UMU/Wabash game, it certainly looked like Wabash really shot themselves in the foot repeatedly rather than an outright stomping by UMU.  If Wesley keeps it clean like they have for the past two weeks, I think they have a legitimate shot at a win.    Shut that offense down like the three quarters of the 2009 game and Wesley can break the purple duck.

-Ski

Ski,

Wabash didn't shoot themselves in the foot...Mount's D did. And we're not purple ducks.

Come on now, he saw highlights of the game.  That's obviously enough to draw meaningful conclusions.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: purpled on December 05, 2011, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: PurpleSuit on December 05, 2011, 03:28:43 PM
Quote from: purpled on December 05, 2011, 03:20:02 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 05, 2011, 02:15:23 PM
From the highlights of the UMU/Wabash game, it certainly looked like Wabash really shot themselves in the foot repeatedly rather than an outright stomping by UMU.  If Wesley keeps it clean like they have for the past two weeks, I think they have a legitimate shot at a win.    Shut that offense down like the three quarters of the 2009 game and Wesley can break the purple duck.

-Ski

Ski,

Wabash didn't shoot themselves in the foot...Mount's D did. And we're not purple ducks.

Come on now, he saw highlights of the game.  That's obviously enough to draw meaningful conclusions.

I suppose you're right. But we're still not purple ducks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 05, 2011, 04:33:14 PM
QuoteI had no issues where I was sitting, in fact the crowd around me was rather cordial, they had many positive things to say about how Wesley played the game, well except for the pop pass play that was called.
We must have been near each other, as that's how I remember it too. Some good natured ribbing back and forth, but all in all a friendly bunch.  Very anxious to see how we stack up against MU this year.  It's been great to beat all these other fine teams, but this is the true measuring stick.  I don't think this is the most top to bottom talented team we've had, but we seem better able for almost anybody to step up and make the big play when it's needed, and Shane's leadership is so important.  Really think something changed in his demeanor after the loss to Kean - watching him on the sideline it looked like he started interacting with his team more, and loosened up a little.  Should have the confidence of knowing we can pull it out regardless of the situation as we've won in so  many different ways this year.  Will be interesting to see each side's game plan and who can make the most effective adjustments.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 05, 2011, 06:47:01 PM
Wesley fans making the trip.  I really hope many of you will be in Friday evening and will join the Mount guys for the get together at a local joint.  I hope to hit the road by 2 and should be rolling in to Mount between 8 and 830.  The Mount guys are great to hang with and also great to talk football with as they have a great respect for the teams that Mount plays.  They are well aware of the talent they get to watch and really enjoy someone stepping up and playing Mount tough.  Apparently Wabash had a good showing last week, so I hope that I will not be the only Wesley fan there on Friday night.  Look for Skunks Sidekick to post later this week with the definitive plans for the evening, but I will guarentee that you will have a good time if you make it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 05, 2011, 08:48:50 PM


Some better news from facebook about Ben Knapp, chech out Chips homepage on facebook.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 05, 2011, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: purpled on December 05, 2011, 03:20:02 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 05, 2011, 02:15:23 PM
From the highlights of the UMU/Wabash game, it certainly looked like Wabash really shot themselves in the foot repeatedly rather than an outright stomping by UMU.  If Wesley keeps it clean like they have for the past two weeks, I think they have a legitimate shot at a win.    Shut that offense down like the three quarters of the 2009 game and Wesley can break the purple duck.

-Ski

Ski,

Wabash didn't shoot themselves in the foot...Mount's D did. And we're not purple ducks.

You know, you are right.  Looking at the highlight made it look like there were a ton of fumbles for some reason, but Wabash only had one lost fumble and one interception.  Add the blocked punt.  OK, I retract my earlier statement and stand corrected. 

Have you ever heard of breaking a duck before?  It is not a knock against Mount Union..... 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on December 06, 2011, 01:40:02 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 05, 2011, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: purpled on December 05, 2011, 03:20:02 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 05, 2011, 02:15:23 PM
From the highlights of the UMU/Wabash game, it certainly looked like Wabash really shot themselves in the foot repeatedly rather than an outright stomping by UMU.  If Wesley keeps it clean like they have for the past two weeks, I think they have a legitimate shot at a win.    Shut that offense down like the three quarters of the 2009 game and Wesley can break the purple duck.

-Ski

Ski,

Wabash didn't shoot themselves in the foot...Mount's D did. And we're not purple ducks.

You know, you are right.  Looking at the highlight made it look like there were a ton of fumbles for some reason, but Wabash only had one lost fumble and one interception.  Add the blocked punt.  OK, I retract my earlier statement and stand corrected. 

Have you ever heard of breaking a duck before?  It is not a knock against Mount Union..... 

-Ski

Must be a Delaware thing, I guess.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: KitchenSink on December 06, 2011, 08:51:13 AM
to break one's duck:

    (cricket) To score one's first run in an innings
    (idiomatic, UK, by extension) To do something for the first time. <-- THIS ONE (duh)

Thank you Wiki.  I learned something today.  Carry on, people.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 06, 2011, 10:59:31 AM
Must still be some Loyalists in DE if that saying is common.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 06, 2011, 02:50:16 PM
Quote from: KitchenSink on December 06, 2011, 08:51:13 AM
to break one's duck:

    (cricket) To score one's first run in an innings
    (idiomatic, UK, by extension) To do something for the first time. <-- THIS ONE (duh)

Thank you Wiki.  I learned something today.  Carry on, people.

See, we aren't that stupid here in Delaware!  Thanks for looking it up.  +k!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 06, 2011, 04:26:17 PM
QuoteSome better news from facebook about Ben Knapp, chech out Chips homepage on facebook

Thanks for the update.  Sounds like some encouraging news.  Hope the family is hanging in there as best as can be expected.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: purpled on December 06, 2011, 06:34:28 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 05, 2011, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: purpled on December 05, 2011, 03:20:02 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 05, 2011, 02:15:23 PM
From the highlights of the UMU/Wabash game, it certainly looked like Wabash really shot themselves in the foot repeatedly rather than an outright stomping by UMU.  If Wesley keeps it clean like they have for the past two weeks, I think they have a legitimate shot at a win.    Shut that offense down like the three quarters of the 2009 game and Wesley can break the purple duck.

-Ski

Ski,

Wabash didn't shoot themselves in the foot...Mount's D did. And we're not purple ducks.

You know, you are right.  Looking at the highlight made it look like there were a ton of fumbles for some reason, but Wabash only had one lost fumble and one interception.  Add the blocked punt.  OK, I retract my earlier statement and stand corrected. 

Have you ever heard of breaking a duck before?  It is not a knock against Mount Union..... 

-Ski

Ski, my apologies as I've never heard that saying before and I even have a couple of friends in England who play cricket. So it is true, you learn something new every day!

Safe travels to all Wesley fans! Weather looks to be a high of 30 with a chance of light snow.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 06, 2011, 11:58:01 PM
Quote from: purpled on December 06, 2011, 06:34:28 PM


Ski, my apologies as I've never heard that saying before and I even have a couple of friends in England who play cricket. So it is true, you learn something new every day!

Safe travels to all Wesley fans! Weather looks to be a high of 30 with a chance of light snow.

No problem! 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 07, 2011, 09:43:03 AM
Halfway done with the week  ;D...Seems like both ESPN3 and ESPN Gameplan will be picking the game up on TV. This has been a great run already this season. Wesley just needs to keep the momentum going. The Wolverines have without a doubt played a tougher playoff schedule than Mount, which is an advantage.

Looks like itll be a cold one though! Safe travels to the team and anyone coming to the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 07, 2011, 12:37:17 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 07, 2011, 09:43:03 AM
Halfway done with the week  ;D...Seems like both ESPN3 and ESPN Gameplan will be picking the game up on TV. This has been a great run already this season. Wesley just needs to keep the momentum going. The Wolverines have without a doubt played a tougher playoff schedule than Mount, which is an advantage.

Looks like itll be a cold one though! Safe travels to the team and anyone coming to the game.

It's gonna be a cold game with a hard ball.  29 degree high.   It will certainly add to the challenge to Wesley's quest for a clean game without fumbles/dropped passes.  They will have to be on top of their game for sure!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 07, 2011, 01:24:41 PM
FYI if anyone is travelling and still doesn't have hotel reservations - got a 3 star in Canton on Priceline for $40 (ended up being a Holiday Inn).  Not a bad drive to the game, and have more variety in restaurants & shopping there if you have extra time.

Can't wait for Saturday - this season has been way too much fun to end a week too early. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: purpled on December 07, 2011, 05:48:06 PM
For those that have the time the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Canton ( I know it's obvious but threw it in anyway  ;D )
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 07, 2011, 06:12:24 PM
purpled

Wesley played Walsh at the HOF stadium I believe.

They had a lot more on their mind that weekend though. That's the trip  that Coach Knapp's son went into cardiac arrest on the was to the game.. He has been moved out of intensive care this week so that a good thing!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 07, 2011, 06:26:59 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 07, 2011, 06:12:24 PM
purpled

Wesley played Walsh at the HOF stadium I believe.

They had a lot more on their mind that weekend though. That's the trip  that Coach Knapp's son went into cardiac arrest on the was to the game.. He has been moved out of intensive care this week so that a good thing!

That is great news for sure!  I'm not sure the team will return to the HOF this time around.  There is more to play for....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 07, 2011, 06:43:08 PM
Wonder if another trip back to Ohio will have emotions running higher than usual.  I think we can all find some inspiration in the story and are happy to hear of Ben's progress. Of course football is important, but not in comparison to a life and death situation. Those closer to the team know far better than me, but I think this experience has brought the team closer together and reminded them they are a family of sorts. On a happier note, glad to see the game will be broadcast locally on Fox 21.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 07, 2011, 08:51:07 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on December 07, 2011, 06:43:08 PM
Wonder if another trip back to Ohio will have emotions running higher than usual.  I think we can all find some inspiration in the story and are happy to hear of Ben's progress. Of course football is important, but not in comparison to a life and death situation. Those closer to the team know far better than me, but I think this experience has brought the team closer together and reminded them they are a family of sorts. On a happier note, glad to see the game will be broadcast locally on Fox 21.
The experience has definitely brought the team closer together without a doubt. After that Walsh game, the team went to the hospital in Pittsburgh where Ben was and gave Chip the game ball. It was a very emotional moment. Ben continues to progress. As you all know, they moved him out of the ICU. When I saw him before the Linfield game, he looked better than in Pittsburgh , and we even got a little smile out of him....theres minor victories so far. Which is great, and Im looking forward to seeing more positive things in his development.

As far as the game goes, I feel like Wesley is playing with a lot of emotion, determination, and intensity. Im looking forward to a good game, and IMO, Wesley is too motivated to go down easily. The team has been through so much adversity over the past 2 seasons, which has certainly made them stronger. They need to break this barrier though: 7 Points. Im not worried about them getting on the board, cause they will. Its the next score I will be hoping to see. They have not scored more than 7 points in a semifinal game. If they can get more than 7, they break that barrier, and I think that will be a little "relieving."
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 07, 2011, 09:27:37 PM
checking to see if any Wesley fans will be in Alliance Friday night and would like to join the Mount posters for some wings, beer, and conversation.  As far as I know they will be meeting at Rey's, which is just down the road from the Mount campus.  If you think you will make it post on their site so they have an idea of how many in case they need to reserve a spot.  Only 2 more days and then I will be sipping a cold one and eating some hot ones with the Mount guys, hope some of you join me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 07, 2011, 09:36:44 PM
I'll be tied up with the team.  Good point on the 7 points waterboy.  That will be another duck to break!  We've been doing pretty good so far with those this season!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 07, 2011, 10:06:10 PM
We may get in early enough to join you - should know for sure Thursday am and will post on their board if so.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 08, 2011, 11:31:33 AM
Check out the article on d3football.com about the game Saturday. This team seems so focused right now.

Another key I think will be to score early, take the early lead. I think the sooner we score. The more confidence our guys will have. I think if we play like Wesley knows how. We win. Limit the mistakes, and the rest will fall into place.

Go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 08, 2011, 12:10:56 PM
I'm getting pumped up for this one!  We'll see how Wesley deals with the cold and MU.  Heading out today for one hell of a trip!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: raiderpa on December 08, 2011, 12:25:54 PM
so...if Wesley wins the toss, do they go on O or D?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 08, 2011, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: raiderpa on December 08, 2011, 12:25:54 PM
so...if Wesley wins the toss, do they go on O or D?

I think they go on D.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 08, 2011, 01:02:53 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 08, 2011, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: raiderpa on December 08, 2011, 12:25:54 PM
so...if Wesley wins the toss, do they go on O or D?

I think they go on D.

-Ski

I agree.  While Waterboy is right that we need to score early, we are usually a better second half team (except for last week when we stunk in the 3rd qtr) and would prefer to start the second half with the ball.   Enjoyed the post yesterday about the need to score more than 7 points this time - hadn't remembered that was the magic number (or more likely blocked out the bad memories).  Think we can do that this year with Shane's talent and determination.  I really can't say enough about how proud I've been of him this year and how much I've enjoyed seeing him develop during his time at Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on December 08, 2011, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 07, 2011, 09:27:37 PM
checking to see if any Wesley fans will be in Alliance Friday night and would like to join the Mount posters for some wings, beer, and conversation.  As far as I know they will be meeting at Rey's, which is just down the road from the Mount campus.  If you think you will make it post on their site so they have an idea of how many in case they need to reserve a spot.  Only 2 more days and then I will be sipping a cold one and eating some hot ones with the Mount guys, hope some of you join me.

Safe travels to Alliance. Don't forget if you are not doing Margaretta's Saturday morning, you have to check the Buffet. It is awsome. The MU fans were all very good to me. I enjoyed talking to seventiesraider. I think it's Wesley's day. Hope it is a great game and everyone is safe.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: section13raiderfan on December 08, 2011, 07:40:23 PM
Hey Wesley fans! You played Walsh College on the very same field that Canton Ohio would use if their application to host The Stagg Bowl were approved. What do you think? Some are against the idea because its too close to Mount Union and would be an advantage if they qualified. They have never played there as far as I know. You have. Any thoughts? I love Salem Va, but if things were to change how do you feel about that facility?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 08, 2011, 08:35:20 PM
Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 08, 2011, 07:40:23 PM
Hey Wesley fans! You played Walsh College on the very same field that Canton Ohio would use if their application to host The Stagg Bowl were approved. What do you think? Some are against the idea because its too close to Mount Union and would be an advantage if they qualified. They have never played there as far as I know. You have. Any thoughts? I love Salem Va, but if things were to change how do you feel about that facility?

It is a great stadium. It is sort of a bowl on one side with a huge all glass press box. There are 3 concrete grandstands, with an aluminum one underneath the main scoreboard. There is also an auxilary scoreboard above where Walsh entered the field where they showed replays and stuff. Its pretty neat. Not sure how it compares to Salem, VA's stadium but the Hall of Fame Stadium is pretty sweet. Obviously the best facility the Wolverines have played on this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 08, 2011, 08:42:58 PM
Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 08, 2011, 07:40:23 PM
Hey Wesley fans! You played Walsh College on the very same field that Canton Ohio would use if their application to host The Stagg Bowl were approved. What do you think? Some are against the idea because its too close to Mount Union and would be an advantage if they qualified. They have never played there as far as I know. You have. Any thoughts? I love Salem Va, but if things were to change how do you feel about that facility?

Didn't make the Walsh game, but have been to an NFL pre-season game there and thought it was great.  Plenty of seating, decent parking, nice scoreboard, lots of concession and bathroom areas.  I think some updates may have been done since I was there.  Not to mention that it would be nice to combine a Stagg bowl trip with a vist to the Hall of Fame.  Surrounding area has lots of decent hotels, restaurants, etc.  Would have some concern about it being so close you guys, but not necessarily a deal breaker.   I'm sure money will be the deciding factor for any NCAA decision making.  Maybe after next weekend I'll be able to compare it to Salem :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Assistant Waterboy on December 08, 2011, 10:52:22 PM
 Ive been wondering how we will stack up against Mount all week because of who they are and this is probably the best team we will have faced all year. But on the flip side of that Mount will be seeing the best team by far all year this weekend. Mounts schedule during the season (no teams in top 25)  and the playoffs has been much easier. I guess what Im saying is who have they played this year besides Wabash and Centre? And lets face it those 2 are not world beaters. So bring on another purple team who thinks they are better than us.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 08, 2011, 10:53:25 PM
getting closer.  Hitting the road around 2 pm tomorrow, looking forward to a nice 6 hour drive, followed by some good wings and brew with some Mount guys once I arrive in Alliance.  Saturday morning will start with a nice Mexican breakfast with some more Mount friends, then off to the field.  The best ending to this nice trip will be a Wesley victory and finally a trip to the Stagg bowl for the Wolverines.  It has been a fun year of travel for me so far and I can't believe there are only 2 more trips left for me to take.  Safe travels to all Wesley fans and I will see you at the field on Saturday. I will hopefully be wearing my #13 jersey if I can get it over the sweatshirt, if not, the sweatshirt has #13 on it.  Hope to meet DE Wesley Fan and any other Wesley fan who makes the trip.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 08, 2011, 11:33:41 PM
Quote from: Assistant Waterboy on December 08, 2011, 10:52:22 PM
Ive been wondering how we will stack up against Mount all week because of who they are and this is probably the best team we will have faced all year. But on the flip side of that Mount will be seeing the best team by far all year this weekend. Mounts schedule during the season (no teams in top 25)  and the playoffs has been much easier. I guess what Im saying is who have they played this year besides Wabash and Centre? And lets face it those 2 are not world beaters. So bring on another purple team who thinks they are better than us.

Seriously?  PROBABLY?  Sooooo.........you're kidding right?  If Mount came to Dover, and was up like Linfield was at halftime...the game would have been UGLY by the end of the game.  On the other hand....Mount has NEVER been down 21-0 in any game they have played in the last 17 years.  PROBABLY? 

Seriously?   ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 08, 2011, 11:44:31 PM
Wesleydad - will keep an eye out for you at the game and try to say hi.  Would be nice to meet you in person.  Everybody have a safe trip!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on December 09, 2011, 12:48:07 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 08, 2011, 11:33:41 PM
Quote from: Assistant Waterboy on December 08, 2011, 10:52:22 PM
Ive been wondering how we will stack up against Mount all week because of who they are and this is probably the best team we will have faced all year. But on the flip side of that Mount will be seeing the best team by far all year this weekend. Mounts schedule during the season (no teams in top 25)  and the playoffs has been much easier. I guess what Im saying is who have they played this year besides Wabash and Centre? And lets face it those 2 are not world beaters. So bring on another purple team who thinks they are better than us.

Seriously?  PROBABLY?  Sooooo.........you're kidding right?  If Mount came to Dover, and was up like Linfield was at halftime...the game would have been UGLY by the end of the game.  On the other hand....Mount has NEVER been down 21-0 in any game they have played in the last 17 years.  PROBABLY? 

Seriously?   ::)

C'mon, S_S, he's new.  ;)  When he's had a chance to branch out and read some posts in the other boards he'll get a less provincial view of things. For now just try to think of it as the most egregious recent example of the "Mount hasn't played anyone like us" post. (Although I will say that the kent.edu address makes it more likely that he should already have gained some perspective on Mount Union.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on December 09, 2011, 01:26:14 AM
This week's WDEL pre-game interview with Mike Drass is now posted on WDEL.com

http://wdel.com/story.php?id=39396

Everyone heading to the game safe travels.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Assistant Waterboy on December 09, 2011, 06:23:27 AM
 Mount did what they supposed to do, beat the teams on their schedule. The fact is their schedule this year is weak. That's not a knock on how good Mount is its just the facts. This week we will see how good they are when they play their 1st top ten opponent.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rscl70 on December 09, 2011, 08:20:38 AM
Quote from: Assistant Waterboy on December 09, 2011, 06:23:27 AM
Mount did what they supposed to do, beat the teams on their schedule. The fact is their schedule this year is weak. That's not a knock on how good Mount is its just the facts. This week we will see how good they are when they play their 1st top ten opponent.
There is hope for you.  Mount can be beaten.  It's happened 23 times in the last 26 years.
Mount Union Game Notes here:  http://athletics.mountunion.edu/sports/fball/2011-12/files/11fbgamenotes-wesley.pdf

Safe journey to Wesley Dad and everyone making the trip.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PurpleSuit on December 09, 2011, 10:06:40 AM
Quote from: Assistant Waterboy on December 09, 2011, 06:23:27 AM
Mount did what they supposed to do, beat the teams on their schedule. The fact is their schedule this year is weak. That's not a knock on how good Mount is its just the facts. This week we will see how good they are when they play their 1st top ten opponent.

Absolutely correct, it's very well known that the OAC is one of the bottom of the barrel DIII conferences and Oshkosh is a joke as the non-conference game, plus what exactly has Mount Union proven over the years, have they even been to four National Semi's?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 09, 2011, 10:46:17 AM
thanks rscl70.  leaving school at 145 to get on the road.  nice to have friends who will cover your class when you ask them.  hope to see as many of you as possible this evening.

Mount will be the best everything that Wesley has faced this year, likely not even close in most areas to the other teams despite the rankings of those other teams.  That is no slight to any of them, that is a fact.  Mount is a totally different level, one that Wesley is trying to get to.  It will take a near perfect effort on Wesley's part to get it done.  They will have to play all 4 quarters with limited penalties and turnovers.  Can the secondary play a good enough game not to have the wolverines in a hole early due to coverage breakdowns?  Can the offense move the ball and score more than 7?  The answer to those to questions will determine the outcome of the game in my opinion.  See you all at the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 09, 2011, 10:50:26 AM
SAFE TRAVELS TO ALL


NO INJURIES
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 09, 2011, 10:53:55 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 09, 2011, 10:46:17 AM
thanks rscl70.  leaving school at 145 to get on the road.  nice to have friends who will cover your class when you ask them.  hope to see as many of you as possible this evening.

Mount will be the best everything that Wesley has faced this year, likely not even close in most areas to the other teams despite the rankings of those other teams.  That is no slight to any of them, that is a fact.  Mount is a totally different level, one that Wesley is trying to get to.  It will take a near perfect effort on Wesley's part to get it done.  They will have to play all 4 quarters with limited penalties and turnovers.  Can the secondary play a good enough game not to have the wolverines in a hole early due to coverage breakdowns?  Can the offense move the ball and score more than 7?  The answer to those to questions will determine the outcome of the game in my opinion.  See you all at the game.

wesleydad,

Have a safe trip, hope to see you at the game! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: raiderpa on December 09, 2011, 12:10:27 PM
I would not be surprised to see Mount send three deep on the first series, just to see what happens...with Denton and Collins on the sidelines and Claycomb in the middle, one has to get open....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: repete on December 09, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
Quote from: Assistant Waterboy on December 09, 2011, 06:23:27 AM
Mount did what they supposed to do, beat the teams on their schedule. The fact is their schedule this year is weak. That's not a knock on how good Mount is its just the facts. This week we will see how good they are when they play their 1st top ten opponent.

Subbing for a more intemperate post ....

Waterboy: Really?  This is not unlike some of the posts the more seasoned Wesley posters complained about from Linfield.

First of all, it's ignorant of the quality of the OAC. Second, it completely misses the quality of a WIAC school that took UWW to the wire, a FG with 78 seconds to go. Without going into  details, let's just say Wesley would love to play UWW that close. Third, Wabash looks like a top 10 team to me.

What's with trashing the schedule of opponents? Just last week we heard about SFJ being "likely the best team" UST would face and the MIAC sked "was not that good." Then the game starts and SJF puts up numbers that are closer to MIAC bottom dwellers ... 133 yards of total offense, 10 first downs, no offensive trips to the endzone, no answer to Waldvogel, who was out at halftime. Losses to Salisbury and Hobart weren't nearly so gory. Perhaps that slam of another league could have served as a cautionary tale.

That said, I'll be pulling for Wesley this week and would love to see two new teams next weekend in Salem. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 09, 2011, 03:12:58 PM
In Alliance today.  Team had a good practice with ESPN starting to install the cameras.  It is overcast and cold, but luckily, not prohibitively so.   This is going to be a great game!  The Wolverines have been here before and are as ready as they can be for another run at the finals.  I feel really good about their chances.  Keep the mistakes to a minimum and a win is very likely.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 09, 2011, 03:35:44 PM
Glad to hear you're settling in nicely.  Looking forward to a good game.  Hope we come out strong and keep our foot on the gas.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: section13raiderfan on December 09, 2011, 03:41:09 PM
No offense to Wesley but you realize that with a name like the Wolverines you are not gonna get much love from any Ohioan. That said, if you do prevail just make sure you also win the last game of the season. The Stagg Bowl is a pretty nice experience. Especially the Stone Station guys. Olinemom will be there with her brownies Im sure. Good People...good times. Being as the game is a Friday I cant go no matter who is in it. :'(  I will still watch....but the food is not gonna be the same >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on December 09, 2011, 08:21:06 PM
Go Wesley
i want to see some different uniforms in Salem a week from now.

safe travels to and from Ohio and hopefully to Salem
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 09, 2011, 09:39:45 PM
One more sleep and itll be gameday. Wesley has a shot...and I know that if you keep knocking on the door, eventually you will get an answer. Wesley will come aknocking for the 5th time tomorrow. Will they get that answer and get to Salem. We will find out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 09, 2011, 11:17:31 PM
Isn't it morning yet? Hope to see Wesley come out and execute a good game plan. If we're on our game this could certainly be our day. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Olinemom on December 10, 2011, 12:19:39 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 07, 2010, 08:05:21 PM
Wesleydad, have a great time in Alliance this weekend.  I'm hoping to watch the game on ESPN3 whatever that is, and I WON'T BE COLD BECAUSE i have never been colder than the day I was in Alliance.   Hope your QB has a good day.  See you next week for sure.  I've got the brownies covered. I hope that the game is a good one. :) :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 10, 2011, 12:49:47 AM
sitting in my hotel room after having some great wings and brew with some mount and wesley people.  chad, it was good to see you, I know I did not talk to you much, but I appreciate what you did while my son played at wesley.  5 times in 7 years to the semis, will this be the year?  who knows, but 1 thing I am sure of is that there are plenty of teams who think they should or could have been here who aren't.  go out and play hard, leave nothing to chance and see what happens.  I am not usually a cheerleader, but this time I will be GO WOLVERINES, f'n win this game.  Breakfast at Don Ponchos with some good Mount people, then game time.  sunny and 30 seems like good football weather to me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 10, 2011, 08:45:15 AM
GAMEDAY!!!!!

Heading out from the hotel shortly.  Let the chips fall as they may!  Go Wolverines!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 10, 2011, 09:04:13 AM
Good luck Wesley
Ski, PA-Wesley, and all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 10, 2011, 09:21:08 AM
weather report.  currently 23 degrees with little wind.  hi temp around 30 with bright sunshine.  great day to go see a good football game.  WOW, I just happen to be in Alliance Ohio and there is some semi final D3 game going on today.  Maybe I will head over and see what it is all about.  I hear this Mount team is really, really good.  Sounds like Wesley doesn't have a chance.  Maybe they can give the big, bad Raiders a game.  Good luck today to both teams, may both play a clean, hard football game with no injuries.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 10, 2011, 09:21:33 AM
To the Wolverines and their faithful fans...WHOOP SOME UMU BUTT TODAY! LET's SEE SOME PURPLE AND BLUE IN THE STAGG
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 10, 2011, 10:40:56 AM
Didn't have much time, but a few bullet points to pass the time:

"Keys to Salem"

www.uwwfootball.com
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2011, 11:46:40 AM
LET"S GO WESLEY!!!! PURPLE PEOPLE BEATERS!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: sjfcards on December 10, 2011, 12:30:36 PM
Way to go Wesley!!! I am pulling for ya.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 10, 2011, 01:02:16 PM
70 yrd TD wesley!!!!!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: RedandPurple on December 10, 2011, 01:27:25 PM
FYI:
Wesley 14 Mount Union 13 @the Half  :)

Live Streaming on ESPN 3. The link is on the D3 Football home page. It's also on pay per view.

Okay here is the link:    http://www.d3football.com/scoreboard/composite?view=15        8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: RedandPurple on December 10, 2011, 02:03:05 PM
FYI:
Wesley 14 Mount Union 21 3rd. 11:57  :)

Live Streaming on ESPN 3. The link is on the D3 Football home page. It's also on pay per view.

Okay here is the link:    http://www.d3football.com/scoreboard/composite?view=15        8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 10, 2011, 02:35:42 PM
Go trim the trees RedandPurple. There's nothing new in under the sun.   8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: RedandPurple on December 10, 2011, 02:38:46 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 10, 2011, 02:35:42 PM
Go trim the trees RedandPurple. There's nothing new in under the sun.   8-)

Some Sage advice.  Plus k for you.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 10, 2011, 02:41:45 PM
I must give the Wesley fans, my mea culpa.

I got home from work before the start of the 3rd quarter and saw the Wesley lead.

Sure enough, 3 Wesley turnovers later...

I shouldn't have watched.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 10, 2011, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 10, 2011, 02:41:45 PM
I must give the Wesley fans, my mea culpa.

I got home from work before the start of the 3rd quarter and saw the Wesley lead.

Sure enough, 3 Wesley turnovers later...

I shouldn't have watched.
OK, I confessed, and Wesley scored!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 10, 2011, 02:46:37 PM
On your TV or internet, Ralph?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 10, 2011, 03:22:46 PM
Internet.  It was a good stream.  :)

Congratulations UMU.

Congratulations to Wesley for the strong season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: repete on December 10, 2011, 05:22:38 PM
Congratulations on the fine season, Wesley. You will be a deserved No. 3 in the final poll this year ... and considering the state of d3 football the past seven years that's a fine finish indeed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 10, 2011, 06:54:26 PM
Quite a game at Mount Union today.  Wesley was a good as any opponent we've faced in Salem.  Trying to remember the last time a QB played like that against Mount.  Tom Arth maybe?  If his receivers could catch perfectly thrown balls on 4th down they'd be heading to Salem instead of Mount.  I feel for McSweeny.  He deserved better.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 10, 2011, 07:02:15 PM
QuoteCongratulations on the fine season, Wesley. You will be a deserved No. 3 in the final poll this year ... and considering the state of d3 football the past seven years that's a fine finish indeed.

Yeah, ditto.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 10, 2011, 08:05:08 PM
wesleydad,teamski,

Great game today, safe travels returning home. Wesley has a great team and the game lived up to its billing, Congrats! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 10, 2011, 10:13:55 PM
just got home.  the 6 hour return trip seemed to be a little longer thinking about what could have been.  although the game was not perfect, it sure was a good one with plenty of momentum swings.  congratulations to Wesley for an excellent season.  you guys handled adversity on and off the field with true guts and class.  I am sure this loss hurts a lot now, but down the road you guys will be very proud of how you played today.  I know I have been a critic, but kudos to Coach Knapp for the game plan today.  He took advantage of what Mount was giving and gave the team every chance to win the game.  In the end Wesley came up a play or 2 short of getting the win.  In my opinion these were 2 even teams who took advantage of the other teams weakness with Mount prevailing on the scoreboard which was really the only place they were better today.  This team is real close to the top and I believe clearly at the top of the tier 2 group and they may be seperating themselves from the others with 5 semi appearances in the last 7 years.  Plenty of people were taking shots at their chance to win today or even score, but Wesley showed that they are a top program and can hang with one of the big boys.  Looking forward to seeing what this offense has next year with almost everyone returning.  Although the receivers had some key drops today, they are young and will only get better.  Congrats again on a great season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 10, 2011, 11:47:47 PM
I will save my analysis of this game later. But this game proves that Wesley can hang with the big two. A play or two here or there and we are playing in the Stagg. We didnt win the game, and IMO, young talent costed us, but we are there. Today proved that our coaching is equal, and  the talent we had was equal, but at the end of the day Mount walks out with the victory. That says something about their program as well. They are still one of the best. Still am pretty proud of my Wolverines today tho. Great run! Dealt with more adversity than any other team in D3, and proved to the world that the Wesley College Wolverines of 2011 is as good as advertised.

My team MVP goes to Shane McSweeny. The best QB in Division III, I will challenge anyone on that. He really set himself apart from the rest of the league in the playoffs. I will for sure miss his style of play. Unlike any QB i have seen. If he isnt a 1st Team All-American, then I dont know what is.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 10, 2011, 11:59:24 PM
Congratulations to Wesley on a great season.  The Wolverines showed tremendous character with all of the adversity they overcame to advance as far as they have.  I'm sure banding together around something far more important than football has taught players on this team greater lessons than a Stagg Bowl Trophy would have.  I wish the seniors well and hope they (and all the guys on the team) commit to staying connected and getting back to games from time to time.  It's the relationships and the experiences on the journey that will last a lifetime.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 11, 2011, 12:33:05 AM
Quote from: Bluenote on December 10, 2011, 11:48:44 PM
Man...I watched some of the game. I was rooting for Wesley all the way, YOU GUYS DID GREAT!.....Again...why does MUC get ALL HOME GAMES IN THE PLAYOFFS....IF THEY HAD SOME AWAY GAMES IT WOULD BE A MORE EVEN PLAYING FIELD.

You are so pathetic with this rant that is over...and over...and over...and over..and over. 

Please.......take the winter/spring/summer off...and come back with a better attitude.  PEACE OUT!   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: raiderpa on December 11, 2011, 01:04:00 AM
Higher seeded teams get the home games in the playoffs...get a higher seed and you get the home games....THe way Wesley played today, they probably should have been a higher seed in their bracket, but still would have travelled to Mount Union
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 11, 2011, 01:27:10 AM
Well, I just got back to Dover.  I am crushed.  6 turnovers and Wesley lost by only 7 points.  Give me one of them back.....The Jihad fumble.... and the game would have turned out completely different.  That fumble created the tone for the 3rd quarter.  He had just ran one hell of a play and put the ball on the ground.  Ugghh!!!!  That and Jeriamia Howe's dropped ball in the 4th really put the screws to Wesley for the game.  Both those guys played awesome and to have that happen...well that sux. 

Wesley was easily as good as Mount Union today.  They were effective on both sides of the ball.  Take the short fields away and it would have been a different game.  One thing Mount Union does so well is keeping mistakes to a minimum.  Today, Wesley made one too many.  So friggin'  close!!   >:(

Wesley had another awesome year!  For the first time, they reached the Semi's with a single loss season; and did so in a convincing fashion.  McSweeny, McAndrews, and Mayes topped off a hell of a senior year.  Well done gents!


Today was my last day as Wesley's videographer.  I would not have believed in a 1000 years in 2005, sitting in the stands as an new (and ardent) Wesley fan supporting his neighborhood team, that four years later I would retire from the USAF and become a full time student at Wesley under the 911 GI Bill.  Coach Drass found out I wanted to help out with the team and whala!  I became the camera guy.  How lucky was I!!  I got to travel with the team for 3 years and witnessed the hard work, sweat and dedication that goes into running one of the best teams in the nation.   It was an experience I will never forget.  All of those miles traveling to God knows where to play some team that was willing to play Wesley.  Thanks to Coach Drass, Coach Knapp and Coach Az for letting me experience it all first hand!  Next year, I revert to my fan mode, shredding my voice from the stands, supporting a team I love.  GO WOLVERINES!!


p.s.  Sottilaire is ready to return next year with a nice band of talented Wolverines.  It gives me goosebumps thinking what damage he, Koudousu and Barile will do next year.   Wesley will return once again to challenge for Salem next year no doubt!

-Ski 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 11, 2011, 01:57:02 AM
Quoteadversity off the field
Care to elaborate?

Now footaball talk....
What do you folks think Scott saw in McSweeny's game that he got him 3 times?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 11, 2011, 02:18:10 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 11, 2011, 01:57:02 AM
Quoteadversity off the field
Care to elaborate?

Now footaball talk....
What do you folks think Scott saw in McSweeny's game that he got him 3 times?

I know the first one (in the first quarter) came off of McSweeny's arm oddly.  It did not go where he wanted it to go.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 11, 2011, 08:53:37 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 11, 2011, 01:57:02 AM
Quoteadversity off the field
Care to elaborate?

Now footaball talk....
What do you folks think Scott saw in McSweeny's game that he got him 3 times?

The adversity off the field is talked about in the "Once More with Feeling" article in the What We are Reading section of the front page of D3.

As far as what Scott saw that got him 3 picks.  I am not sure if he saw anything, but because he is good found himself in the right place.  The first pick came when McSweeney was hit as he went to throw and the ball went way off direction right to Scott who wasn't even covering the intended target.  The second pick I believe was in the end zone on a poorly thrown pass that he just made a great play on, picking it before stepping out of bounds.  Since I am not sure which of the other 2 he got, I will cover both of them.  The 3rd pick and possibly the killer was the one that bounced off a Wesley receiver at the goal line, pops into the air and gets picked.  The 4th int came on the last play that Wesley ran which was pretty much a throw it up and hope something good happens.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 11, 2011, 09:28:23 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 11, 2011, 08:53:37 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 11, 2011, 01:57:02 AM
Quoteadversity off the field
Care to elaborate?

Now footaball talk....
What do you folks think Scott saw in McSweeny's game that he got him 3 times?

The adversity off the field is talked about in the "Once More with Feeling" article in the What We are Reading section of the front page of D3.

As far as what Scott saw that got him 3 picks.  I am not sure if he saw anything, but because he is good found himself in the right place.  The first pick came when McSweeney was hit as he went to throw and the ball went way off direction right to Scott who wasn't even covering the intended target.  The second pick I believe was in the end zone on a poorly thrown pass that he just made a great play on, picking it before stepping out of bounds.  Since I am not sure which of the other 2 he got, I will cover both of them.  The 3rd pick and possibly the killer was the one that bounced off a Wesley receiver at the goal line, pops into the air and gets picked.  The 4th int came on the last play that Wesley ran which was pretty much a throw it up and hope something good happens.

3rd Pick was Ferrara, 4th Pick was Scott's final one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 11, 2011, 09:39:44 AM
game talk.  A couple of things that I think hurt Wesley other than the obvious turnovers and dropped passes on offense were the loss of Mays and too much cushion on the receivers.  Wesley had very little pass rush and I believe had Mays been healthy that would have changed which may have helped the secondary.  As the game progressed I didnt get the feeling that the Mount receivers could just blow by the secondary, yet the d backs were giving way too much cushion.  I wish they would have taken away the shorter passes and forced Piloto to hold the ball a little longer to possibly help the pass rush some.  Finally, I think our safety play left a lot to be desired.  I am far from an expert on football, but when a receiver is 10 yards behind the corner and there is no play fake, it would seem like he expected some help over the top, but that did not happen on at least 2 of the TD passes.  On offense, they put up 500 yards with the 6 to's against what was said to be one of the best defenses in D3.  Eliminate the drops and the turnovers and who knows how many yards they get or points they score.  The drops alone cost at least another 75 and 1 TD.  I believe they return all the receivers who Mount found out are really fast, Jahad (I am not sure about Wright) and Howe at RB, and most if not all of the Oline.  Sottilaire is said to be returning and we already know he can throw the ball.  This team is set on offense.  The defense will have to replace Mays and Asaidu, but I think most of the rest are back.  The D line will be a year better and the secondary showed improvement during the season, that same improvement will make them tough on receivers.  Wesley is positioned for another deep run next year, hopefully getting over the final hump and reaching the Stagg.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 11, 2011, 09:42:35 AM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 11, 2011, 09:28:23 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 11, 2011, 08:53:37 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 11, 2011, 01:57:02 AM
Quoteadversity off the field
Care to elaborate?

Now footaball talk....
What do you folks think Scott saw in McSweeny's game that he got him 3 times?

The adversity off the field is talked about in the "Once More with Feeling" article in the What We are Reading section of the front page of D3.

As far as what Scott saw that got him 3 picks.  I am not sure if he saw anything, but because he is good found himself in the right place.  The first pick came when McSweeney was hit as he went to throw and the ball went way off direction right to Scott who wasn't even covering the intended target.  The second pick I believe was in the end zone on a poorly thrown pass that he just made a great play on, picking it before stepping out of bounds.  Since I am not sure which of the other 2 he got, I will cover both of them.  The 3rd pick and possibly the killer was the one that bounced off a Wesley receiver at the goal line, pops into the air and gets picked.  The 4th int came on the last play that Wesley ran which was pretty much a throw it up and hope something good happens.

3rd Pick was Ferrara, 4th Pick was Scott's final one.

thanks K&J's dad, couldn't remember who had what, but I think that Scott may have been the cover back on the 3rd int.  If so he did hit the receiver just after the ball hit the hands so he had a play in the int too, if it was him.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 11, 2011, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 11, 2011, 09:42:35 AM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 11, 2011, 09:28:23 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 11, 2011, 08:53:37 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 11, 2011, 01:57:02 AM
Quoteadversity off the field
Care to elaborate?

Now footaball talk....
What do you folks think Scott saw in McSweeny's game that he got him 3 times?

The adversity off the field is talked about in the "Once More with Feeling" article in the What We are Reading section of the front page of D3.

As far as what Scott saw that got him 3 picks.  I am not sure if he saw anything, but because he is good found himself in the right place.  The first pick came when McSweeney was hit as he went to throw and the ball went way off direction right to Scott who wasn't even covering the intended target.  The second pick I believe was in the end zone on a poorly thrown pass that he just made a great play on, picking it before stepping out of bounds.  Since I am not sure which of the other 2 he got, I will cover both of them.  The 3rd pick and possibly the killer was the one that bounced off a Wesley receiver at the goal line, pops into the air and gets picked.  The 4th int came on the last play that Wesley ran which was pretty much a throw it up and hope something good happens.

3rd Pick was Ferrara, 4th Pick was Scott's final one.

thanks K&J's dad, couldn't remember who had what, but I think that Scott may have been the cover back on the 3rd int.  If so he did hit the receiver just after the ball hit the hands so he had a play in the int too, if it was him.

You are correct on Scott's Coverage on the 3rd Int.  See about 2:30 in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iiNBliNFJ-c
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 11, 2011, 12:08:16 PM
Quote from: Bluenote on December 11, 2011, 01:06:43 AM
They were 2 in the bracket....couldn't get much higher, but they beat the #1 seed in bracket. MUC is in a very easy bracket....so they gear up for 1-2 games in the playoffs where as other teams play tougher competition earlier. Don't see why MUC would always have a home game in every playoff game? That doesn't make sense.

You may (and that's a big may) have and argument that Wesley for Wesley hosting if they hadn't lost to Kean. Mount's schedule is hardly easy, playing in the OAC and opening with UW-Osh Kosh. They earn it every year on the field and run a classy program.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 11, 2011, 02:47:54 PM
Let's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: section13raiderfan on December 11, 2011, 03:13:20 PM
UMU gets home field advantage from winning all their regular season games. Its as simple as that. Everybody has that same ability. Win em all and you stay off the busses. It aint easy! Maybe the NCAA will pay for travel and nobody gets home field advantage in the future.

Hey HSC... who was the QB that carved MUC up in the playoffs in the early 90s? I believe it was after the first Stagg Bowl victory, but not long after. That kid sticks out as a QB as good as McSweeney. Although he didnt run as well, he threw darts all day and knocked us out of the playoffs. I know they didnt go all the way, but they nipped us in a game I felt we could have won.

For what its worth...we are sick of playing the same team in the finals also. But they earned their way so we will deal with it.

Come to think of it, Rowan have a QB transfer fron Notre Dame/ Michigan State that was probably better than McSweeney.     
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on December 11, 2011, 03:40:34 PM
Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 11, 2011, 03:13:20 PM

Come to think of it, Rowan have a QB transfer fron Notre Dame/ Michigan State that was probably better than McSweeney.   

Negative.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 11, 2011, 04:01:08 PM
Quote from: Bluenote on December 11, 2011, 02:59:44 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 11, 2011, 02:47:54 PM
Let's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.   ;)

SKUNK TO BLUENOTE:

QuoteYou are so pathetic with this rant that is over...and over...and over...and over..and over. 

Please.......take the winter/spring/summer off...and come back with a better attitude.  PEACE OUT!   

Agree 100% D O.C......hope "skunk" calms down before he flicks crap next time and he wouldn't get the response he did from me. Don't call people pathetic for expressing their opinion. Peace Out!  ;)

I am very calm bluenote.  You have posted the Mount always plays at home rant at least a dozen times.  To the point where PC had to call you on it, to correct some of your incorrect assumptions.  We get it......Mount wouldn't have won half of their national championships if they had to play on the road.  Obviously the NCAA favors Mount, and that's the only reason they win. 

The fact that you feel compelled to post that opinion over and over is puzzling.  So you really believe that the NCAA should just say......"hey Mount...even though you are ranked #1 or #2 in the country, and are undefeated, you should just play some games on the road". 

Sure.....let's go with that.   ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2011, 04:05:53 PM
Quote from: Bluenote on December 11, 2011, 02:59:44 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 11, 2011, 02:47:54 PM
Let's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.   ;)

SKUNK TO BLUENOTE:

QuoteYou are so pathetic with this rant that is over...and over...and over...and over..and over. 

Please.......take the winter/spring/summer off...and come back with a better attitude.  PEACE OUT!   

Agree 100% D O.C......hope "skunk" calms down before he flicks crap next time and he wouldn't get the response he did from me. Don't call people pathetic for expressing their opinion. Peace Out!  ;)

Excuse me -- did you not read the post of yours I deleted? You don't get the high road here.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 11, 2011, 04:27:17 PM
Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 11, 2011, 03:13:20 PM


Hey HSC... who was the QB that carved MUC up in the playoffs in the early 90s? I believe it was after the first Stagg Bowl victory, but not long after. That kid sticks out as a QB as good as McSweeney. Although he didnt run as well, he threw darts all day and knocked us out of the playoffs. I know they didnt go all the way, but they nipped us in a game I felt we could have won.


Come to think of it, Rowan have a QB transfer fron Notre Dame/ Michigan State that was probably better than McSweeney.   

I don't remember who you're thinking of, but I'm confident it wasn't one of the Rowan QB's.  The Rowan teams were a bear because of their line play and TB's.  Their QB's never impressed me.  But I could be wrong.  I'm getting older and I'm too lazy to dig out my old media guides to refresh my memory.

In regards to Mount hosting come playoff time, there have been quite a few opportunities for Mount to travel but the higher seeded teams lost earlier in the playoffs keeping Mount at home.  Even last year Mount would have traveled in the Semi's, but St Thomas couldn't beat Bethel so Mount hosted Bethel.  In 2005, Mount was the #2 seed in the North Region, but Capital beat #1 Wabash and semi-final pairing was a lower seeded team too so therefore Mount hosted again.  So the string of Mount hosting is part Mount being consistently good, and part good fortune on their part.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 11, 2011, 06:47:08 PM
What a game, and what a season.  Can't add much about the game that others haven't already said very well.  The program took one step closer by playing such a good game and showing we really can hang with one of the big boys, even if we still fell a few points shy of taking them down.    Much love to all our seniors who worked so hard to put this program where it is today.  We'll still be taking about McSweeny years from now and he will be the standard future Wesley QB's are measured by (much like Visconti has been).  When we finally DO get to that Stagg bowl, it will be in part because of the hard work and efforts by the teams of the last decade or so that have made Wesley one of the top programs in D3.  Coaches did a great job again this season and I hope they know how much they are appreciated.

Great to meet you in person WesleyDad, and I agree that I thought #4 had two picks to be +1 on the day (while my guy was 0 for too many to count).   Ski - thank you for your contribution to the program.  It takes effort by lots of people we usually don't hear about to help support a program.  Glad you enjoyed your run.

Already looking forward to next year.  Hoping our young receivers will remember how bad they feel right now and focus on improving their game.  They have a lot of talent and have big things ahead if they keep working.  Glad to hear Sottilaire should be ready for next year.  He did a great job stepping up when we needed him last year and has the physical ability needed for success.  Missing piece of the puzzle for him seemed to be confidence and leadership, which should come with maturity.  Need to work hard on firming up the secondary.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on December 11, 2011, 07:02:29 PM
Wesley had a great season, congratulations...  they took us to the wood shed in Dover, on Nov 12, so our admiration for their program, their level of talent, their coaches etc runs deep. The boy ( his mom says call him son ???) is a Grad Asst now at Huntigdon. He told me the folk at Wesely were class acts when it came to film exchange, pre and post game etc. and it was hard for him to like folk that whipped him so bad.(only HSC got as high a praise)

Hopefully we will see some of yall in Salem, Lord willing

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 11, 2011, 08:02:11 PM
Quote from: SUADC on December 11, 2011, 03:40:34 PM
Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 11, 2011, 03:13:20 PM

Come to think of it, Rowan have a QB transfer fron Notre Dame/ Michigan State that was probably better than McSweeney.   

Negative.

That QB was Gus Ornstein,,and Mount won vs him,,and he was not the threat that McSweeny is with the run.Was also a very good baseball player.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 11, 2011, 09:01:55 PM
I dont know why I am going to do this, but I will enter the fray about Mount and always playing at home.  I posted this thought earlier on the E8 board for a different discussion but it also fits here.  There is one and ONLY one legit way to guarentee, and it still wont be a guarentee if the #1 seed doesnt win their region, that Mount does not have a home game until the Stagg.  That would be for the other 2 teams in the discussion to be seeded higher than Mount by raising the level of their status to make Mount the 4th #1.  If all 1's win then Mount would go to UWW or whomever the top seed is, in the semis.  This would also mean we would not have the same two teams in the Stagg.  To imply that, for example, yesterday's results would have been different if the game was in Dover is a joke.  I am not going to look it up, but I don't think Mount has lost an away game in quite a few years.  Changing the venue of the game does not necessarily change the result, pretty ridiculous arguement to me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 11, 2011, 09:34:33 PM
 UWW Ended up playing in Dover last year  and weren't they the  defending champ??? I would think that if any team deserves to unseat UMU they woul.d have to have one heck of a schedule and go undefeated!! ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 11, 2011, 09:55:13 PM
  A couple of final thoughts on the game yesterday. I sure would have liked to see what kind of havoc Chris Mayes would have caused. I don't remember seeing anyone dominate like he did in the second half against Linfield. It would be nice to have everyone healthy for a championship run.  IMHO the D stepped up nicely without 4 starters. I hear all the discussions about playing to loose but you have to remember that there were a few inexperienced players back there. Last year losing Ellis Krout hurt because of the misjudgements of our other receivers getting expelled before the playoffs and losing Gene Knight.

  I am as disappointed as anyone with the loss,  but I am never disappointed in our player or coaches. I think what the players and coaches have accomplished over the years is a credit to their convictions to bring home a Stagg bowl win!!

Congrats on another great season and God willing we will all be back next fall to enjoy the next edition of Wesley football!!
Good Luck to all the seniors and thanks for four years of Great football! ;D

Go Wesley!!!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 12, 2011, 09:21:59 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 11, 2011, 09:34:33 PM
UWW Ended up playing in Dover last year  and weren't they the  defending champ??? I would think that if any team deserves to unseat UMU they woul.d have to have one heck of a schedule and go undefeated!! ;)
You are right and not only were we the defending champs, we were also undefeated with a 10/0 record.  The committee still gave us the #2 seed in the #4 ranked region.   :o  We were forced on the road for game #3 and the semi's in Dover.  My point is that even when a team wins them all, you are still at the mercy of the selection committee and I still find it curious that in what seemed like at the time, an attempt to put up a few roadblocks to avoid a 6th straight meeting of the purple powers, it was UWW that was sent packing, not Mount.  But Mount was given the tougher road for sure this year even though they played all games at home.  Just glad they haven't gone so far as to put us both on the same side of the bracket.   ;) But the point is, that home or away, you gotta win 'em all and there is no reason to believe that if Mount was sent packing more, they would win any less.  It didn't matter for us.  Great teams win on any field they play on, IMHO.  Well, I guess you could send them packing but insist they leave LK at home.  That might do it.   :D ;D
   But I got away from my purpose for stopping by.  I want to add my congrats to the Wesley Wolverines, their staff and fans.  A really great season!  I was really impressed with your outstanding QB and the teams, "refuse to lose," attitude that helped you win the game against the Cats.  You got incredibly close this season and the continued play-off experience will pay dividends on the recruiting trail and in the locker room.  Great season and good luck next year.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 12, 2011, 01:23:39 PM
Quoteto put us both on the same side of the bracket

GREAT IDEA!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 12, 2011, 04:21:55 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 12, 2011, 01:23:39 PM
Quoteto put us both on the same side of the bracket

GREAT IDEA!
You probably should qualify that, same side of the bracket opposite the Cats.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 12, 2011, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 12, 2011, 01:23:39 PM
Quoteto put us both on the same side of the bracket

GREAT IDEA!

I would never support having UWW and MU on the same side of the bracket.  Doing so would create a broken championship for sure (if I am reading this right).  Without a doubt, we can complain all we want about having repeated Purple Bowls, but in the end, it MUST be settled on the field.  Sooner or later, I think Wesley will break this duck once and for all.  They have tasted blood.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: section13raiderfan on December 12, 2011, 05:37:12 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on December 11, 2011, 08:02:11 PM
Quote from: SUADC on December 11, 2011, 03:40:34 PM
Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 11, 2011, 03:13:20 PM

Come to think of it, Rowan have a QB transfer fron Notre Dame/ Michigan State that was probably better than McSweeney.   

Negative.

That QB was Gus Ornstein,,and Mount won vs him,,and he was not the threat that McSweeny is with the run.Was also a very good baseball player.

Ornstein was the Rowan QB I was thinking of in the Stagg Bowl that I thought was really good. He didnt run, true....with his cannon he didnt need to. However the QB that I referred to as being equal to or better than McSweeney was another Qb from maybe the second round of the playoffs who was just a passing machine. He picked us apart and nipped us at the end to dash our hopes in the playoffs. It had to be back in the Billy Borchert era.

Speaking of Rowan...usually more talented and bigger because of transfers, but MUC rose above it to win it all. Kinda like what needs to happen Friday.










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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 12, 2011, 09:56:14 PM
in 94 and 95 Mount lost to Albion and W La Crosse in the playoffs ,,then won in 96,97,98 lost to Rowan in  99
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 13, 2011, 12:01:09 AM
I would not be in favor of stacking the brackets, but I wouldn't mind a random draw for bracket seeding. If polls really have nothing to do with it and all records are equal for the #1s put them in a hat and draw for seedings. 1st out = 1, 2nd = 2, etc. then at least people would stop griping about it favoring UWW and UMU unfairly.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 13, 2011, 12:24:18 AM
Quote from: Toby Taff on December 13, 2011, 12:01:09 AM
I would not be in favor of stacking the brackets, but I wouldn't mind a random draw for bracket seeding. If polls really have nothing to do with it and all records are equal for the #1s put them in a hat and draw for seedings. 1st out = 1, 2nd = 2, etc. then at least people would stop griping about it favoring UWW and UMU unfairly.
I would only have the random drawing amongst "undefeated" #1's.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 13, 2011, 01:52:39 AM
Congrads to Chris Mayes for being selected to the 2011 AFCA All American Division III team for the second year in a row!  I really wish he could have played the season out.   >:(  It is a shame that McSweeny wasn't chosen as well.....

-Ski!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: BoBo on December 13, 2011, 03:03:42 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 13, 2011, 01:52:39 AM
Congrads to Chris Mayes for being selected to the 2011 AFCA All American Division III team for the second year in a row!  I really wish he could have played the season out.   >:(  It is a shame that McSweeny wasn't chosen as well.....

-Ski!

Teamski, I believe the AFCA DIII AA team only allows 1 player per school to be recognized.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 13, 2011, 09:01:12 AM
Would have been sweet to see what Mayes would have been able to do vs. Mount. The D-line still played well. We were also without Duke Herald, and a nickelback that wouldve helped. If i recall I think that Sean Hopkins was playing some defense last Saturday. It was still a great game and a heck of a season!

Excited for next year. Will be interesting to see how much Sottilare improves. Wesley will definitely miss the ability of Shane McSweeny though. On offense, we lose #75 Buettner, and Sean McAndrew as well. The recievers are all coming back with more experience. Ishamar Malcolm may spell McAndrew next season, with Tambua Bradford as more of a blocking TE.  And on D, we lose DE Mayes, LB Aseidu, LB Morgan, CB Howard, DT Gilstrop and a few others I believe. So a lot of spots to fill. I think Phil Cooper or Aamir Petrose will take over at DE sometime. Cooper looks like a good ballplayer. I think losing Jeff Morgan was the biggest. He had a heck of a season. I can see Kirk Brooks, and Sosthene Kapepula coming in and taking over and anchoring the LB spots. The secondary will be a year better. Leon Jones would get beat sometimes but he made a lot of big big BIG plays. I think he will be a lot of fun to watch next season with a little more experience under his belt.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 13, 2011, 02:47:48 PM
Quotei recall I think that Sean Hopkins was playing some defense last Saturday

I know it's a different level, but Sean was a very good dback in high school and is extremely athletic.  I thought he was actually better on D than as a receiver back then.  I would have liked to have seen him get a few more opportunities back there all year, particularly since we were weak in that area.

Hope I'm not jinxing us but it has seemed the past several years that Wesley has been able to reload quite nicely between players improving each off season and getting some good new talent.  The continued exposure for the program should be a draw for this year's high school graduates to help keep that trend going.  The players Waterboy mentioned all have big things ahead if they keep progressing.

QuoteTeamski, I believe the AFCA DIII AA team only allows 1 player per school to be recognized
.   
That's just silly.  Guess they feel they have to share the love, but if Shane isn't AA I don't know what is (nothing against Mayes).

How many more weeks until the first game of 2012????  Perhaps I should start asking Santa now for a trip to the Stagg Bowl next year.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 13, 2011, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 13, 2011, 03:03:42 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 13, 2011, 01:52:39 AM
Congrads to Chris Mayes for being selected to the 2011 AFCA All American Division III team for the second year in a row!  I really wish he could have played the season out.   >:(  It is a shame that McSweeny wasn't chosen as well.....

-Ski!

Teamski, I believe the AFCA DIII AA team only allows 1 player per school to be recognized.
That is why the AFCA list is way more politically correct than accurate, IMHO.     ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on December 14, 2011, 03:46:51 PM
I'm VERY late to the party on this but just saw the "highlight" video in post #5370.

After watching that one would think Mount Union won by something like 77-0!!

Ned
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 14, 2011, 04:18:49 PM
Quote from: NedM on December 14, 2011, 03:46:51 PM
I'm VERY late to the party on this but just saw the "highlight" video in post #5370.

After watching that one would think Mount Union won by something like 77-0!!

Ned

You need to watch the game on ESPN3 to get the whole picture.  It is still available to see.  I have been watching the game in portions I can consume.  It is hard to watch seeing all of the possible permutations the game could have taken.  What a great team Wesley had this year.  They really did themselves proud on TV.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 14, 2011, 07:05:49 PM
A note away from football

My grand daughter just recieved her acceptance to DUKE,,

Now back to the Stagg Bowl
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 14, 2011, 08:56:44 PM
Congrats to your grand daughter beenhit2hard and  Mrs..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 14, 2011, 10:04:46 PM
beenhit2hard, when did Duke join D3. :D  congrats to you and your daughter, see you next year on the road somewhere.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 15, 2011, 07:44:01 AM
Congrats! My late step father was an alum. Teach her to say "Go to Hell Carolina, Go to Hell!."
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 15, 2011, 10:56:22 AM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on December 14, 2011, 07:05:49 PM
A note away from football

My grand daughter just recieved her acceptance to DUKE,,

Now back to the Stagg Bowl

Congratulations!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 15, 2011, 01:21:33 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 13, 2011, 12:24:18 AM
Quote from: Toby Taff on December 13, 2011, 12:01:09 AM
I would not be in favor of stacking the brackets, but I wouldn't mind a random draw for bracket seeding. If polls really have nothing to do with it and all records are equal for the #1s put them in a hat and draw for seedings. 1st out = 1, 2nd = 2, etc. then at least people would stop griping about it favoring UWW and UMU unfairly.
I would only have the random drawing amongst "undefeated" #1's.
I agree, but how often is there a 1 loss #1
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 17, 2011, 12:11:22 AM
Well, now that the season is officially over, I want to thank the players and coaches of the Wesley Wolverines for putting on one hell of a show this year.  It was their strongest performance ever, IMHO.  Well done gents!  I will really miss McSweeny's presence on the field.  That said,  I am SO looking forward to the 2012-13 season!!  Each year looks to be a building block for the next and the possibilities abound next year for Wesley's rendezvous with destiny.

Hang in there Ben.  We are all rooting for you!!   ;D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 17, 2011, 08:29:32 AM
Big time congratulations to Shane McSweeny and Chris Mayes for their selections as 2011 D3F First Team All-Americans!!    ;D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 17, 2011, 01:34:46 PM
Just returned from the Stagg Bowl.  It was a very good, but conservative game by both teams.  Wesley has to feel very frustrated with the loss to Mount now.  UWW was held to just over 200 yards of offense by a defense that Wesley had alomst 500 on.  Both teams looked beatable last night by a good offensive team that is willing to take chances, no mistakes and I think Wesley could beat either team.  Makes next year very interesting as I think both of the big 2 are showing signs of possibly being beatable.  Wesley will have to replace some key pieces, but has plenty coming back to be a top contender again.  Congrats to McSweeney and Mays for their AA selections.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 17, 2011, 03:34:42 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 17, 2011, 01:34:46 PM
Just returned from the Stagg Bowl.  It was a very good, but conservative game by both teams.  Wesley has to feel very frustrated with the loss to Mount now.  UWW was held to just over 200 yards of offense by a defense that Wesley had alomst 500 on.  Both teams looked beatable last night by a good offensive team that is willing to take chances, no mistakes and I think Wesley could beat either team.  Makes next year very interesting as I think both of the big 2 are showing signs of possibly being beatable.  Wesley will have to replace some key pieces, but has plenty coming back to be a top contender again.  Congrats to McSweeney and Mays for their AA selections.

So close......trade in a couple turnovers and we would have seen a different opponent for UWW to chew on.  All we can say at this point is "next year."  The Wesley coaches are becoming more playoff savvy each year.  You can see it in the play calling.  It seems to be a matter of time before the purple bubble gets popped.  The game last night put MU in Wesley's position of being behind.  I mentioned to my wife that if MU got behind by two scores that they would lose.  I didn't feel the same about Wesley in the semis.  Unfortunately, the result was the same.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 17, 2011, 08:51:29 PM
ski, what i saw last night should make most of D3 happy.  I was worried that UWW had opened up a pretty large gap with the rest of D3, but that did not show last night.  They were not as good as any of the previous UWW teams that I have seen and they lose the QB and RB so they will likely take a step back.  Mounts defense will be good, but they could not handle Wesley last week and with Sottilaire coming back I dont see why Wesley wont be able to move the ball again against anyone.  Mount is not that good on offense so they will not scare anyone that is good when they have the ball.  I think Wesley is closer than anyone else is to beating either one of these teams, but I will not be surprised if they both lose a game next year, or at least I am hoping so.  Hopefully the players will see how close they were and dedicate themselves to doing what is necessary to make sure they are as prepared as they can be for next season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 17, 2011, 09:21:43 PM
Quote from: Toby Taff on December 15, 2011, 01:21:33 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 13, 2011, 12:24:18 AM
Quote from: Toby Taff on December 13, 2011, 12:01:09 AM
I would not be in favor of stacking the brackets, but I wouldn't mind a random draw for bracket seeding. If polls really have nothing to do with it and all records are equal for the #1s put them in a hat and draw for seedings. 1st out = 1, 2nd = 2, etc. then at least people would stop griping about it favoring UWW and UMU unfairly.
I would only have the random drawing amongst "undefeated" #1's.
I agree, but how often is there a 1 loss #1
Wesley, UMHB, Linfield, McMurry, Cal Lutheran, Hobart, Trinity Redlands. I think they stacked the wrong bracket if they wanted UMU and UWW out...lol
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: steelernation on December 17, 2011, 11:48:05 PM
I was listening to the game last night at work.  It was the Mount Union announcers, and they said that it is a good thing that these two team are in the game, other wise it would be a 30-0 game so far, and that was in the 3rd.  Did they seem to forget that Wesley put up 500 total yards of offense against Mt. Union, and Matt Bariles's arm was being held on a perfect pass that bounced off his shoulder pads for an interception.  Look at the replay. I don't think they would have been down that much.  Sorry, but they need to get off of your high horses!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 18, 2011, 08:43:39 AM
steelernation, welcome to the boards.  i agree.  I did not see anything from UWW that Wesley's run defense would likely not have been able to handle.  Defensivly they were good, but would they have been able to handle McSweeney and the receivers, ask Mount how that went.  Wesley was done in by turnovers, mostly good plays by Mount, and dropped passes.  I would have liked to see them play UWW.  I think they would have proven to be more of a threat than Mount was offensivly which would have forced them to open up their offense which may have led to a turnover or 2, they did throw an int.  There are plenty of could have beens, just did not get it done when they had the chance.  As far as 30 - 0, I did not see anything from either offense that said they would score 30 on any good defense.  UWW only had 20 against St. Thomas and Mount only got 28 with the help of 6 turnovers, not likely getting to 30 against either since they did not last week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 18, 2011, 09:51:33 AM
Quote from: steelernation on December 17, 2011, 11:48:05 PM
I was listening to the game last night at work.  It was the Mount Union announcers, and they said that it is a good thing that these two team are in the game, other wise it would be a 30-0 game so far, and that was in the 3rd.  Did they seem to forget that Wesley put up 500 total yards of offense against Mt. Union, and Matt Bariles's arm was being held on a perfect pass that bounced off his shoulder pads for an interception.  Look at the replay. I don't think they would have been down that much.  Sorry, but they need to get off of your high horses!!

That certainly seems like a bit of denial on their part.  Wesleydad is on target with his appraisal.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 18, 2011, 10:40:01 AM
Quote from: Conrad on December 15, 2011, 07:44:01 AM
Congrats! My late step father was an alum. Teach her to say "Go to Hell Carolina, Go to Hell!."

My granddaughter says "thanks",,to all of you and she is excited.And to Conrad,she has received at least 15 emails from the Duke welcoming committee that have all sent her the cheer. We even watched it on you tube !! :P ;D :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 18, 2011, 02:48:44 PM
Quote from: Conrad on December 17, 2011, 09:21:43 PM
Quote from: Toby Taff on December 15, 2011, 01:21:33 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 13, 2011, 12:24:18 AM
Quote from: Toby Taff on December 13, 2011, 12:01:09 AM
I would not be in favor of stacking the brackets, but I wouldn't mind a random draw for bracket seeding. If polls really have nothing to do with it and all records are equal for the #1s put them in a hat and draw for seedings. 1st out = 1, 2nd = 2, etc. then at least people would stop griping about it favoring UWW and UMU unfairly.
I would only have the random drawing amongst "undefeated" #1's.
I agree, but how often is there a 1 loss #1
Wesley, UMHB, Linfield, McMurry, Cal Lutheran, Hobart, Trinity Redlands. I think they stacked the wrong bracket if they wanted UMU and UWW out...lol
You're right but I would say that any of the four highlighted would have given UMU a good game and would have had a chance in alliance. So it may be that stacking the bracket created a situation that most insured a potential for upset, or it may have created the most attrition to contend with.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 21, 2011, 10:04:26 AM
Well, Wesley ends the season at #3 on both national DIII polls.  Well done to the Wolverines for overcoming the loss to Kean to return to the semi's and give MU a good game.  This was the first time that Wesley had a regular season loss and reached the Semi's.  It was fun to see all of the different teams and locations that Wesley has had to play through the last couple years.  From the Virginia University of Lynchburg with its HUGE offensive line to the D1 FCS Charleston Southern with it's nice grass field, Wesley has one of the most unique schedules anywhere in DIII, that is for sure.  This is not the last of it either.  Next year will be quite interesting for the team.  Your turn Justin!

Now what to do in the meantime.   :o ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :'(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 22, 2011, 04:38:50 PM
To wesleydad and Teamski, I wish each of you and your famlies a Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 22, 2011, 11:51:05 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on December 22, 2011, 04:38:50 PM
To wesleydad and Teamski, I wish each of you and your famlies a Merry Christmas!

And the same to you!  +k!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 23, 2011, 08:45:08 PM
to all the wesley faithful, traveling to see my son in Tennessee, so have a great xmas and I will talk to you some time soon.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 26, 2011, 12:53:05 AM
Merry Christmas to all! About an hour late but i was busy  ;) And a Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on December 30, 2011, 10:34:05 AM
I was bored at work. So I decided to come up with a solution to Wesley and Huntingdon possibly joining a conference. I think this could go into effect after this upcoming season. I know there are many factors and issues with conference alignment and the sorts. But, like I said I was bored so this is what I have to say.

I think the USA South Conference should invite both Wesley and Huntingdon into the conference, as well as invite Salisbury*, Frostburg*, and Newport News Apprentice** to join the confernce and split it into two divisions.

USA South (N)                          USA South (S)
Wesley                                             NC Wesleyan
Salisbury*                                         Huntingdon
CNU                                                 Maryville (Tenn.)
Ferrum                                              Averett
Frostburg State*                                LaGrange
Shenandoah  ***                               Methodist
Newport News Apprentice**                 Greensboro   



*Subject to Empire 8 Contract
**Not considered NCAA institution
***Leaving for the ODAC
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on December 30, 2011, 10:39:22 AM
this 'idea' of the USA conference looks awesome
wish it would happen
i think Huntingdon would be competitive in that conference
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on December 30, 2011, 11:23:07 AM
Shenandoah is a member of the ODAC in all sports starting next year. They have wanted to be in the ODAC for years and you can bet they won't be going anywhere. The ODAC might be willing to release Catholic, who is an associate member for football only, although I think the ODAC is pretty happy having 8 teams for football for scheduling purposes going forward.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on December 30, 2011, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: jknezek on December 30, 2011, 11:23:07 AM
Shenandoah is a member of the ODAC in all sports starting next year. They have wanted to be in the ODAC for years and you can bet they won't be going anywhere. The ODAC might be willing to release Catholic, who is an associate member for football only, although I think the ODAC is pretty happy having 8 teams for football for scheduling purposes going forward.

Now with Shenandoah out the picture, you can release Newport News Apprentice and have 12 teams in the conference having 6 in each division, having each team play every team within each division and two games in the other division, leaving two OOC games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 30, 2011, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: SUADC on December 30, 2011, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: jknezek on December 30, 2011, 11:23:07 AM
Shenandoah is a member of the ODAC in all sports starting next year. They have wanted to be in the ODAC for years and you can bet they won't be going anywhere. The ODAC might be willing to release Catholic, who is an associate member for football only, although I think the ODAC is pretty happy having 8 teams for football for scheduling purposes going forward.

Now with Shenandoah out the picture, you can release Newport News Apprentice and have 12 teams in the conference having 6 in each division, having each team play every team within each division and two games in the other division, leaving two OOC games.
I appreciate your grappling with the Huntingdon and Wesley questions. They have pestered me for a long time.

The disadvantage is that the playoff loser really hurts its chances at a Pool C bid, as few as they are in football.

And the USA South has never gotten a Pool C in football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 31, 2011, 02:16:43 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 30, 2011, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: SUADC on December 30, 2011, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: jknezek on December 30, 2011, 11:23:07 AM
Shenandoah is a member of the ODAC in all sports starting next year. They have wanted to be in the ODAC for years and you can bet they won't be going anywhere. The ODAC might be willing to release Catholic, who is an associate member for football only, although I think the ODAC is pretty happy having 8 teams for football for scheduling purposes going forward.

Now with Shenandoah out the picture, you can release Newport News Apprentice and have 12 teams in the conference having 6 in each division, having each team play every team within each division and two games in the other division, leaving two OOC games.
I appreciate your grappling with the Huntingdon and Wesley questions. They have pestered me for a long time.

The disadvantage is that the playoff loser really hurts its chances at a Pool C bid, as few as they are in football.

And the USA South has never gotten a Pool C in football.

It did in 2004 -- both Shenandoah and Christopher Newport got in.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 31, 2011, 10:46:45 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 31, 2011, 02:16:43 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 30, 2011, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: SUADC on December 30, 2011, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: jknezek on December 30, 2011, 11:23:07 AM
Shenandoah is a member of the ODAC in all sports starting next year. They have wanted to be in the ODAC for years and you can bet they won't be going anywhere. The ODAC might be willing to release Catholic, who is an associate member for football only, although I think the ODAC is pretty happy having 8 teams for football for scheduling purposes going forward.

Now with Shenandoah out the picture, you can release Newport News Apprentice and have 12 teams in the conference having 6 in each division, having each team play every team within each division and two games in the other division, leaving two OOC games.
I appreciate your grappling with the Huntingdon and Wesley questions. They have pestered me for a long time.

The disadvantage is that the playoff loser really hurts its chances at a Pool C bid, as few as they are in football.

And the USA South has never gotten a Pool C in football.

It did in 2004 -- both Shenandoah and Christopher Newport got in.
Oh thanks...the same year that the ASC had 2...Champion HSU and the UMHB Stagg Bowl team as the Pool C bid.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on January 02, 2012, 01:16:44 PM
Check out Shane McSweeny's highlight tape. Wow! Will have to admit that its the first time I've seen a QB highlight tape that features his blocking too lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJ7D9CCfHs

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 02, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
that's the wrong web page kiddo
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on January 02, 2012, 11:06:07 PM
Whoops! Thanks  ;D I edited it. This one is the real highlight tape. Not Seth Meyers on SNL  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wildcat11 on January 04, 2012, 04:35:59 PM
Waterboy,

McSweeny was a beast, no doubt.  Type of guy to almost give you "too much" to choose from and that's always a good thing.

BTW, here is a short clip on Linfield that I thought you might like to check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prZ1RuGkd9c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prZ1RuGkd9c)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 04, 2012, 07:22:06 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on January 02, 2012, 01:16:44 PM
Check out Shane McSweeny's highlight tape. Wow! Will have to admit that its the first time I've seen a QB highlight tape that features his blocking too lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJ7D9CCfHs

Enjoy!

I just got to watching this now.  Man, am I going to miss Shane's pyrotechnics!  He was really fun to watch and film.  I certainly hope he lands a QB job somewhere. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on January 06, 2012, 06:21:47 PM
Thanks for the link - that was fun to watch.  I hope he enjoyed his time at Wesley as much as I've enjoyed watching him.  You can't teach that kind of instinct and toughness. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on January 08, 2012, 12:02:09 PM
Teamski, wesleydad,

Who will be McSweeny's replacement and how does he compare going into 2012? :)

Hope you had/have a great New Year on the 1st and beyond! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 08, 2012, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on January 08, 2012, 12:02:09 PM
Teamski, wesleydad,

Who will be McSweeny's replacement and how does he compare going into 2012? :)

Hope you had/have a great New Year on the 1st and beyond! :)

It will be Justin Sottilaire who lead Wesley to the Semifinals against UWW in 2010.  With the receiving corps coming back with Barile and Koudossou, it is going to be a great year!  Justin broke Wesley's season TD pass record that season when he took over for McSweeny.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 10, 2012, 07:12:56 PM
DGPugh, that Tuscaloosa Institute of Lower Education game against Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College qualifies as a Monkey Stomp!

Keep the faith!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on January 10, 2012, 08:01:26 PM
Hero-Obi Wan
It has been a hard day around these parts, the Honey Badger didn't seem hungry, and the bammers have been loud all day. They are coming out of the wood work on the radio stations. The Bammer nation has a family tree that looks a lot like the dying Toomers Oaks or the adjacent telephone poles.

I pray you and yours are doing well
keep the faith

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on January 15, 2012, 10:19:34 PM
http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120115gapfls

Huntingdon with three playing in the Hansen Bowl All-star Game tomorrow. Congrats guys. Have a good game.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on January 16, 2012, 11:58:58 AM
Hawk em and keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on January 23, 2012, 11:40:31 PM
More Wesley highlight films!  ;D

Sean McAndrew:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH-W_X6_Bqc

Jeff Morgan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGZIbSCcQ6Y&feature=related

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on January 24, 2012, 11:28:36 PM
1 more!

Mike Aseidu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApZ3dXdV2WM&list=UUPAJbHK0pvgwi_sY-2m0dYw&index=1&feature=plcp
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 25, 2012, 11:21:07 PM
Sweet!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on February 11, 2012, 10:14:49 AM



We are off in NY skiing,,and finally a 5 inches of new snow. Last year 203 inches of snow,,this year less than 80,,,not much football news on here,,

So we are just saying Hi to all ,,hope every one is doing well !!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on February 11, 2012, 11:52:40 AM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on February 11, 2012, 10:14:49 AM



We are off in NY skiing,,and finally a 5 inches of new snow. Last year 203 inches of snow,,this year less than 80,,,not much football news on here,,

So we are just saying Hi to all ,,hope every one is doing well !!! ;D

beenhithard,

Wow, that is alot of snow even at 80. Skiers in Ohio are really disappointed with no real snow. So spring football is looking better given the mild winter! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on February 15, 2012, 10:14:50 AM
Just noticed that Birmingham-Southern has their 2012 schedule posted and includes a trip to Wesley on October 6. Nice job BSC!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 15, 2012, 10:33:58 PM
Thanks for the intel!  I know I will be there for the first meeting of these two teams.  That is a road trip for sure!  Not as long as the coast to coast that Wesley will be traveling, though.   8-)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on March 01, 2012, 06:06:52 PM
Huntingdon announces their 2012 schedule. Another very interesting one. Trip to California anybody?

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120301fr3t1o

2012 Huntingdon Football Schedule

Sept. 1      Maryville (Tenn.)                         1 p.m.
Sept. 8      Birmingham-Southern                 1 p.m.
Sept. 15     at LaGrange (Ga.)                           5 p.m.
Sept. 22     at Hampden-Sydney (Va.)                TBA
Sept. 29    Ave Maria (Fla.)                           1 p.m.
Oct. 6         at Millsaps (Miss.)                            1 p.m.
Oct. 13       at Menlo College (Calif.)                   TBA
Oct. 27      Wesley College (Del.)                   1 p.m.
Nov. 3        at Point University (Ga.)                    1 p.m.
Nov. 10     Adrian College (Mich.)                  1 p.m.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 05, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
Great schedule.  7 in-region games.

The Wesley game may be for the "conference" championship!

Any plans for "Point" to move to the NCAA?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on March 06, 2012, 07:58:14 PM
Yet another Wesley highlight tape. This time its Chris Mayes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mXbIzkijEA&list=UUPAJbHK0pvgwi_sY-2m0dYw&index=1&feature=plcp
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on March 07, 2012, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on March 01, 2012, 06:06:52 PM
Huntingdon announces their 2012 schedule. Another very interesting one. Trip to California anybody?

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120301fr3t1o

2012 Huntingdon Football Schedule

Sept. 1      Maryville (Tenn.)                         1 p.m.
Sept. 8      Birmingham-Southern                 1 p.m.
Sept. 15     at LaGrange (Ga.)                           5 p.m.
Sept. 22     at Hampden-Sydney (Va.)                TBA
Sept. 29    Ave Maria (Fla.)                           1 p.m.
Oct. 6         at Millsaps (Miss.)                            1 p.m.
Oct. 13       at Menlo College (Calif.)                   TBA
Oct. 27      Wesley College (Del.)                   1 p.m.
Nov. 3        at Point University (Ga.)                    1 p.m.
Nov. 10     Adrian College (Mich.)                  1 p.m.

By far the best Division III Schedule thus far. I love Huntingdon efforts to schedule games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on March 07, 2012, 11:23:05 AM
Looks like a California trip for Huntingdon as well.  Menlo is going to get a real taste of Division III this year from the looks of it.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2012, 12:02:00 PM
Quote from: Teamski on March 07, 2012, 11:23:05 AM
Looks like a California trip for Huntingdon as well.  Menlo is going to get a real taste of Division III this year from the looks of it.  ;)

-Ski
Menlo doesn't have anyone else around them to play!

Azusa Pacific went to D-II. The SCIAC never played Menlo,

The Northwest Conference is growing from within.


EDIT: I was kindly reminded by a good friend of these boards that Menlo played a few SCIAC teams back in the day, including Cal Lu and Occidental. I only recalled the old games with Chapman, and the affiliation with the NWC and even 4 games with McMurry in the previous decade.
Unfortunately, I cannot find the old Menlo archives from the previous d3football.com webpages.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on March 08, 2012, 09:24:21 AM
Great schedule for the Hawks next year

here is a news release about Hawk HC Mike Turk
http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120307n53rvv

We will try to go to some of the games next year, particularly if the 'boy' comes into town.

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 20, 2012, 11:57:24 PM
Wesley's Bryan Robinson blocked field goal on the last play of the Phila Soul 63-62 opening game win ove New Orleans!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on March 21, 2012, 09:45:46 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on March 20, 2012, 11:57:24 PM
Wesley's Bryan Robinson blocked field goal on the last play of the Phila Soul 63-62 opening game win ove New Orleans!

Cool!  I will be wearing his old jersey in the stands next year!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on March 22, 2012, 08:15:13 AM
That reminds me of his first game as a freshman in 2004 when block and extra point to give the Wolverines a 28-27 win over Ferrum.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on March 23, 2012, 10:22:28 PM
Soul is on NFL Network right now. Been switching back and forth between basketball games looked like B-Rob blocked and extra point that was returned for a score (though they haven't replayed it.) Jeff Hugley of Averett is also playing for the Soul at WR and kick returner. Interesting, that they played against each other in '05 and '06 while in college.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on March 23, 2012, 10:23:05 PM
Video of Huntingdon's Cody Pearcy at Alabama State's Pro-Day. Looks like he impressed some people.  4.31 seconds in the 40, 3.76 seconds in the short shuttle, 6.7 second in the three-cone, a vertical jump of 44 inches and 10-6 in the broad jump.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQIkjE3rAWI
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on March 26, 2012, 12:31:47 PM
I think he got an invite from several pro teams and already worked out for the Falcons.... neat
keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on March 26, 2012, 03:14:16 PM
Hawks88- i pray this finds you well

i know you saw this
http://www.cbssports.com/general/blog/rob-rang/18042151/sleeper-wrs-create-buzz-with-unbelievable-pro-day-efforts

keep the faith and
Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on March 26, 2012, 06:36:05 PM
Halleluiah!  Saw a note in Sunday's DE State News that Wesley's Sean Hopkins and Jared Morris have been moved to defensive backs.  If memory serves, Sean was a great safety in high school - very athletic and not afraid to hit.  Hopefully this will lead to much needed improvements in the secondary.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on March 26, 2012, 10:46:29 PM
More Pearcy info and Keith Anthony invited to camp with Edmonton Eskimos.

http://huntingdon.prestosports.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/2012032610il6j

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on March 27, 2012, 11:19:53 AM
Hawks88
i pray yall are doing well
looks like one or both will be playing next year.
keep the faith and Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on March 30, 2012, 03:18:14 PM


Coach Knapp's father passed away on thursday, thought some of you would want to know.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 30, 2012, 10:24:27 PM
God Bless the Knapp family. They have been through a lot over the last few months. He actually posted here a few times over the past few years. What a nice man . I had the pleasure to chat with him a few times when he made the trip to Dover... RIP
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on March 31, 2012, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on March 30, 2012, 10:24:27 PM
God Bless the Knapp family. They have been through a lot over the last few months. He actually posted here a few times over the past few years. What a nice man . I had the pleasure to chat with him a few times when he made the trip to Dover... RIP

A sad occasion for sure!  The Knapp family has my sincere condolences.  I just attended a fund raiser for Ben last week, too.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 01, 2012, 12:18:27 AM
Ski

Wesley is visiting the deep south a few times this year!!!! Looks like they may have some work in front of them with this tough schedule
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on April 01, 2012, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 01, 2012, 12:18:27 AM
Ski

Wesley is visiting the deep south a few times this year!!!! Looks like they may have some work in front of them with this tough schedule


PA_wesleyfan.

So what do you expect from Wesley, given a tough schedule for this fall? :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 01, 2012, 09:29:20 PM
Raider

I will know more after May 4th but if everyone comes back they are going to have a very explosive offense. Sottilare is returning at QB and the wide outs are very good .But until school opens who knows who comes back..

On another note Bryan Robinson had a pass deflect for a TD last week for the Soul. He is playing very well!! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 01, 2012, 11:26:10 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 01, 2012, 12:18:27 AM
Ski

Wesley is visiting the deep south a few times this year!!!! Looks like they may have some work in front of them with this tough schedule

It will be a very good year and a very interesting one to boot!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on April 02, 2012, 10:05:37 AM
My thoughts are certainly with the Knapp's as well.  All they have gone through the past few months certainly puts things in perspective and has helped me better appreciate every day I have with my family.  I hope there are brighter days just ahead for them.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on April 02, 2012, 04:39:41 PM
condolences to the knapp family, it has been a tough year for the family.  heres hoping that the upcoming season eases some of the pain.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 03, 2012, 12:06:38 AM

Well, at least some of the games have been posted so far on D3F.  There are quite a few LONG road trips to be had this year for Wesley, not to even mention Menlo!  You ain't kidding about the Southern flavor!

9/8    at Salisbury •    6:00 PM   
9/15    vs. Mary Hardin-Baylor •    12:00 PM   
9/22    at Louisiana College •    TBA   
10/6    vs. Birmingham-Southern •    TBA   
10/27    at Huntingdon •    2:00 PM   


-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on April 03, 2012, 11:05:27 AM
Two others for Wesley, found on other team's sites:

9/1 at East Texas Baptist
10/13 vs VA U-Lynchburg

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on April 03, 2012, 03:52:50 PM
Well I will post another in the mystery of the Wesley schedule
At the Scott D. Miller wind tunnel (oops) Stadium ;)
Nov. 3 - Apprentice, 1 pm
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 03, 2012, 06:27:13 PM
Home coming??? LOL


No it probably will be UVA Lynchburg

I also here Menlo is a possibilty and No Frostburg st  WhAt a surprise!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on April 03, 2012, 06:31:44 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 01, 2012, 09:29:20 PM
Raider

I will know more after May 4th but if everyone comes back they are going to have a very explosive offense. Sottilare is returning at QB and the wide outs are very good .But until school opens who knows who comes back..

On another note Bryan Robinson had a pass deflect for a TD last week for the Soul. He is playing very well!! 

The Wesley/Mary Hardin Baylor game will be a good one between two playoff teams! :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 03, 2012, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: nnasid on April 03, 2012, 03:52:50 PM
Well I will post another in the mystery of the Wesley schedule
At the Scott D. Miller wind tunnel (oops) Stadium ;)
Nov. 3 - Apprentice, 1 pm

Thanks for the date.  Are you going to be there?  If so, we shall meet once again!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 03, 2012, 08:05:52 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 03, 2012, 06:27:13 PM
Home coming??? LOL


No it probably will be UVA Lynchburg

I also here Menlo is a possibilty and No Frostburg st  WhAt a surprise!!!!

I'm looking forward to this game.  The UVA Lynchburg offensive line was by far the biggest line I have seen Wesley play.  Slow and unathletic, but huge!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 03, 2012, 08:11:58 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on April 03, 2012, 06:31:44 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 01, 2012, 09:29:20 PM
Raider

I will know more after May 4th but if everyone comes back they are going to have a very explosive offense. Sottilare is returning at QB and the wide outs are very good .But until school opens who knows who comes back..

On another note Bryan Robinson had a pass deflect for a TD last week for the Soul. He is playing very well!! 

The Wesley/Mary Hardin Baylor game will be a good one between two playoff teams! :)

A definite "grab the bull by the horns" game.  A game like this can only be a good thing for both teams.  It keeps the RPI up and keeps it in region to boot.  I know UMHB will be out for blood as well.   I agree, this one will be one of the season's best in Division III.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on April 04, 2012, 09:14:00 PM
Quote from: Teamski on April 03, 2012, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: nnasid on April 03, 2012, 03:52:50 PM
Well I will post another in the mystery of the Wesley schedule
At the Scott D. Miller wind tunnel (oops) Stadium ;)
Nov. 3 - Apprentice, 1 pm

Thanks for the date.  Are you going to be there?  If so, we shall meet once again!

-Ski

I'm pretty sure I will make the swing up Rt. 13 for that one.  Press box crew got a good laugh last time at how quickly it got out of hand (I think people were still in line for concessions and they missed 3 touchdowns) ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on April 05, 2012, 12:35:53 AM
I am totally stumped. I have never heard of UVA Lynchburg!!!!! I have lived in VA all my life!! Their website is one of the worst ever and I have no idea if  it is a real school. In fact, their main website is labelled as a malicious website by my Norton protection. I got in through a backdoor page. Does anybody know anything about them? I was looking to see if the post mentioning them was made on Arpil Fools Day! I can't find anything about their history. Heck, even Wikipedia doesn't know who they are!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on April 05, 2012, 12:44:27 AM
Seems like it has a rich history. This is all I found so far. Interesting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_University_of_Lynchburg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_University_of_Lynchburg)

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 05, 2012, 12:45:28 AM
Yeah -- it's not UVA-Lynchburg, not part of the UVA system.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on April 05, 2012, 12:53:16 AM
last post on it. found the real website. Don't go to VUL.EDU.......

http://fccportal.com/vul/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58&Itemid=66 (http://fccportal.com/vul/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58&Itemid=66)

Learn something new every day!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: hasanova on April 05, 2012, 08:12:54 AM
A couple of ODAC schools played this school last year - E&H lost on the basketball court, but later got a forfeit win due to some ineligible players.  In the MEAC, Va-Lynchburg played NC A&T last year in football - not sure how they can even field a team with such a small student body.  I'm not impressed.  I'm sure the folks in Charlottesville aren't happy with their name choice.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on April 05, 2012, 09:35:37 AM
try vulathletics.com
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on April 05, 2012, 10:22:42 AM
Sorry for the confusion over the name - shouldn't have confused Virginia University for University of Virginia.  Thank goodness it's a home game so in any case I would have ended up at the right place :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 05, 2012, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on April 05, 2012, 12:35:53 AM
I am totally stumped. I have never heard of UVA Lynchburg!!!!! I have lived in VA all my life!! Their website is one of the worst ever and I have no idea if  it is a real school. In fact, their main website is labelled as a malicious website by my Norton protection. I got in through a backdoor page. Does anybody know anything about them? I was looking to see if the post mentioning them was made on Arpil Fools Day! I can't find anything about their history. Heck, even Wikipedia doesn't know who they are!

Hehehe.....I had to really look for some information before Wesley headed out to Lynchburg last year.  Lynchburg is also the home of Liberty University.  UVA Lynchburg is an African American college and only started up football like two years ago after a very long hiatus.  They played Coppin State's club team before Wesley showed up. I watched some footage of them that was up on Youtube.  Their head coach was once a top Division II coach and is one of Virginia's most winningest college football coaches (from what I read).   The school itself is really small, like 400 students or so.  Their campus is only a block with one main building that goes back pretty far.  A very interesting school.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 05, 2012, 07:49:49 PM
Here is a good site for VUL.  It is a lot better than what they had last year.

http://vulathletics.com/news/2012/3/14/FB_0314121941.aspx

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on April 05, 2012, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: Teamski on April 05, 2012, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on April 05, 2012, 12:35:53 AM
I am totally stumped. I have never heard of UVA Lynchburg!!!!! I have lived in VA all my life!! Their website is one of the worst ever and I have no idea if  it is a real school. In fact, their main website is labelled as a malicious website by my Norton protection. I got in through a backdoor page. Does anybody know anything about them? I was looking to see if the post mentioning them was made on Arpil Fools Day! I can't find anything about their history. Heck, even Wikipedia doesn't know who they are!

Hehehe.....I had to really look for some information before Wesley headed out to Lynchburg last year.  Lynchburg is also the home of Liberty University.  UVA Lynchburg is an African American college and only started up football like two years ago after a very long hiatus.  They played Coppin State's club team before Wesley showed up. I watched some footage of them that was up on Youtube.  Their head coach was once a top Division II coach and is one of Virginia's most winningest college football coaches (from what I read).   The school itself is really small, like 400 students or so.  Their campus is only a block with one main building that goes back pretty far.  A very interesting school.

-Ski

Yeah the coach for VUL has been at many schools in the state - Norfolk State, Va Union, St. Paul's and is well thought of in the state.  He's been successful at all levels - was at St. Paul's (NCAA D2) before they killed athletics last summer.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 20, 2012, 11:55:45 AM
Interview with USA South Commisioner Rita Wiggs (http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2012/04/18/1163624)

Excerpt...

QuoteThe conference's two largest schools, Christopher Newport and Shenandoah, are moving to the Capital Athletic Conference and Old Dominion Athletic Conference, respectively. CNU, the only state-supported institution in the league, will remain a football-only member of the USA South for up to three seasons while the Capital adds the sport.

They will be replaced by three colleges from the Great South Conference: LaGrange and Piedmont in Georgia, and Maryville in eastern Tennessee. Peace College in Raleigh, a league member in women's athletics, has gone coed as William Peace University and will phase in men's sports over the next three years. Wiggs said she expects the USA South presidents to approve in May the addition of two other Great South schools, Huntingdon College in Montgomery, Ala., and Covenant College in Lookout Mountain, Ga.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 22, 2012, 10:25:08 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 20, 2012, 11:55:45 AM
Interview with USA South Commisioner Rita Wiggs (http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2012/04/18/1163624)

Excerpt...

QuoteThe conference's two largest schools, Christopher Newport and Shenandoah, are moving to the Capital Athletic Conference and Old Dominion Athletic Conference, respectively. CNU, the only state-supported institution in the league, will remain a football-only member of the USA South for up to three seasons while the Capital adds the sport.

They will be replaced by three colleges from the Great South Conference: LaGrange and Piedmont in Georgia, and Maryville in eastern Tennessee. Peace College in Raleigh, a league member in women's athletics, has gone coed as William Peace University and will phase in men's sports over the next three years. Wiggs said she expects the USA South presidents to approve in May the addition of two other Great South schools, Huntingdon College in Montgomery, Ala., and Covenant College in Lookout Mountain, Ga.

Interesting.  It seems that the CAC still remains a possible home for Wesley Football at some point in the future.  It is already a member of it in other sports.  Good news IMHO.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 22, 2012, 10:46:20 PM
I wonder with the overloading of the USA South, if a football-playing school or two from the USAC might jump to the CAC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 22, 2012, 11:33:03 PM
 I haven't heard anything yet about that Pat but could they also split into two divisions ?Would they have enough football schools to do that?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 22, 2012, 11:38:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 22, 2012, 10:46:20 PM
I wonder with the overloading of the USA South, if a football-playing school or two from the USAC might jump to the CAC.
I count "current" football members by 2015 as CNU, Frostburg, Salisbury and Wesley.

Are two more football schools, to bring the total to six enough?

Thinking only geography and not budget or legacy or history or mission-and-vision,
Do Ferrum and Averett, the northernmost of those schools, move to the CAC?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on April 23, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 22, 2012, 11:38:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 22, 2012, 10:46:20 PM
I wonder with the overloading of the USA South, if a football-playing school or two from the USAC might jump to the CAC.
I count "current" football members by 2015 as CNU, Frostburg, Salisbury and Wesley.

Are two more football schools, to bring the total to six enough?

Thinking only geography and not budget or legacy or history or mission-and-vision,
Do Ferrum and Averett, the northernmost of those schools, move to the CAC?

I believe that Catholic, McDaniel, and Stevenson might make the jump to the CAC in the long-run if (when) the conference forms. It depends on each school propesctive contracts. I believe by 2015 this could be the case. As for Averett and Ferrum this is nothing new in playing Frostburg St, Salisbury, and Wesley. Also, Apprentice School is accepted by the NCAA to be an affiliate member for football, which can help if one of those teams do not decide to make the jump. Nevertheless, all the CAC needs is seven teams in the conference.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 23, 2012, 04:48:28 PM
I doubt that Catholic or Stevenson are leaving their conferences to return to the CAC. Why would they? McDaniel has to be happy in the Centennial Conference. Nobody leaves the Centennial.

Just because a school is close on the map doesn't mean they're a likely candidate to move conferences based on that. If so, Shenandoah would gave gone to the CAC. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on April 28, 2012, 11:39:31 PM
Cody Pearcy signs free-agent contract with the Atlanta Falcons.

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120428nfuh45

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 29, 2012, 09:34:00 PM
 Wesley's schedule is up on the DIII schedule page. Tough road to the playoffs this year. Only 4 home games and playing teams in the far west and deep south!!! Will be good to see every this Friday!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 30, 2012, 01:44:50 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 29, 2012, 09:34:00 PM
Wesley's schedule is up on the DIII schedule page. Tough road to the playoffs this year. Only 4 home games and playing teams in the far west and deep south!!! Will be good to see every this Friday!!

Touring like a rock star, I say!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on April 30, 2012, 09:45:56 PM
So if that schedule is true - only 9 games??
If that's so it appears we are still a "special" game for Wesley -- not the annual homecoming but Senior Day .#rutrow
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 30, 2012, 11:38:56 PM
Notice that once again Frostburg is missing!!!! Big surprise
there!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on May 01, 2012, 09:35:03 AM
Thanks for the schedule update.  Shame there's no rematch with Kean, but I'm really glad to see Wesley continue to strengthen the schedule and get some exposure across the country. Given the personnel changes it will be interesting to see how fast we get it together, especially with the tough games in September.  Counting the days.....

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on May 02, 2012, 12:16:05 AM
I agree, it will be interesting.  If there is one thing I have learned about Wesley is that the team constantly generates talent from within.  This year will be no different.  It is amazing to see players stepping up and filling holes left by departing Seniors. Depth!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 03, 2012, 11:20:43 PM
Wesley's Mike Asiedu is getting a tryout with Carolina. He has not been given a contract but has been invited to their rookie mini camp in MAy. Good Luck Mike!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on May 06, 2012, 12:42:21 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 03, 2012, 11:20:43 PM
Wesley's Mike Asiedu is getting a tryout with Carolina. He has not been given a contract but has been invited to their rookie mini camp in MAy. Good Luck Mike!

Outstanding!  No doubt he has my best wishes for him!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on June 14, 2012, 09:53:29 AM
So I see instead of Homecoming -- it's Senior Day vs. the Builders in November at the Wesley Wind Tunnel  ;D

Gulp :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 28, 2012, 11:49:21 PM
NNasid
Wesley only has four home games so there was a good chance you were getting one or the other!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on July 11, 2012, 10:21:49 PM
first time in quite some time that wesley has not had a preseason all-american.  If the season goes like I think it will, there will likely be several on the end of year team.  Just think less than 2 months until the season starts.

Wow, havn't posted in some time and karma at - 10, someone really needs to get a life.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on July 13, 2012, 08:46:51 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on July 11, 2012, 10:21:49 PM
first time in quite some time that wesley has not had a preseason all-american.  If the season goes like I think it will, there will likely be several on the end of year team.  Just think less than 2 months until the season starts.

Wow, havn't posted in some time and karma at - 10, someone really needs to get a life.

It's been a while since we met at the Train Station. I'm getting excited about the new season. You guys may have a shot a going to the Stag this year. Don't mess it up.  ;D Montclair may be able to cause a little havoc, but with the same old OC we will find a way to screw it up.  >:( Hope all is well with you and a little +K back to you.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on July 16, 2012, 05:00:04 PM
rams, good to hear from you.  all is well.  wesley has some parts to replace and will have to have a different offensive philosophy since sottilaire does not run like mcsweeney, but they should be good.  we will find out real quick as the beginning of the year has some real good games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on July 20, 2012, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on July 16, 2012, 05:00:04 PM
rams, good to hear from you.  all is well.  wesley has some parts to replace and will have to have a different offensive philosophy since sottilaire does not run like mcsweeney, but they should be good.  we will find out real quick as the beginning of the year has some real good games.

wesleydad,

Hope all is well with you! What are thoughts for Wesley this fall? Camp is not that far away. :)+K
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on August 09, 2012, 12:07:29 PM
I read in yesterday's Charlotte Observer that Wesley has been added to the schedule for UNC Charlotte's fledgling program in 2013 and 2014. Those will be UNCC's first two seasons so I figure that Wesley might have a pretty good opportunity to come away with at least one win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 09, 2012, 12:28:28 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on August 09, 2012, 12:07:29 PM
I read in yesterday's Charlotte Observer that Wesley has been added to the schedule for UNC Charlotte's fledgling program in 2013 and 2014. Those will be UNCC's first two seasons so I figure that Wesley might have a pretty good opportunity to come away with at least one win.

That's an interesting twist for Wesley - that will be fun to follow
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 09, 2012, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: nnasid on August 09, 2012, 12:28:28 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on August 09, 2012, 12:07:29 PM
I read in yesterday's Charlotte Observer that Wesley has been added to the schedule for UNC Charlotte's fledgling program in 2013 and 2014. Those will be UNCC's first two seasons so I figure that Wesley might have a pretty good opportunity to come away with at least one win.

That's an interesting twist for Wesley - that will be fun to follow
Probably a good payday for the program that will help with the other road trips that they have to take. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on August 09, 2012, 04:20:07 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 09, 2012, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: nnasid on August 09, 2012, 12:28:28 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on August 09, 2012, 12:07:29 PM
I read in yesterday's Charlotte Observer that Wesley has been added to the schedule for UNC Charlotte's fledgling program in 2013 and 2014. Those will be UNCC's first two seasons so I figure that Wesley might have a pretty good opportunity to come away with at least one win.

That's an interesting twist for Wesley - that will be fun to follow
Probably a good payday for the program that will help with the other road trips that they have to take.

Hopefully, when the CAC starts they will not have to worry about traveling a much. Nevertheless, the exporsure from east to west and north to south is good for the program, especially if you win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 09, 2012, 06:52:05 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 09, 2012, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: nnasid on August 09, 2012, 12:28:28 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on August 09, 2012, 12:07:29 PM
I read in yesterday's Charlotte Observer that Wesley has been added to the schedule for UNC Charlotte's fledgling program in 2013 and 2014. Those will be UNCC's first two seasons so I figure that Wesley might have a pretty good opportunity to come away with at least one win.


Thanks for the heads-up!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 09, 2012, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 09, 2012, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: nnasid on August 09, 2012, 12:28:28 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on August 09, 2012, 12:07:29 PM
I read in yesterday's Charlotte Observer that Wesley has been added to the schedule for UNC Charlotte's fledgling program in 2013 and 2014. Those will be UNCC's first two seasons so I figure that Wesley might have a pretty good opportunity to come away with at least one win.

That's an interesting twist for Wesley - that will be fun to follow
Probably a good payday for the program that will help with the other road trips that they have to take.

As did the Charleston Southern game for this year's epic journey!  From what I hear, the scrimmage this year for Wesley will be at Widener. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 09, 2012, 07:39:24 PM
ski, or anyone else who may know, what is the date for the scrimmage?  if it is at widener I will certainly make the trip since it is only 5 mins away.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 12, 2012, 12:29:30 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 09, 2012, 07:39:24 PM
ski, or anyone else who may know, what is the date for the scrimmage?  if it is at widener I will certainly make the trip since it is only 5 mins away.

I don't know yet.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on August 12, 2012, 05:51:19 PM
Nice article in today's Delaware State News about Justin Sottilare and his preparation for this year after having a year off (couldn't find an on-line version to link to).  Gist of it was that when he became the starter two years ago after McSweeny's injury, he really wasn't properly prepared going into the season - hadn't focused on strength training or the playbook as much as he should have over the summer since he planned to be a back-up.  Those things have been corrected this time around and he's ready to go.  Wow - if that's true and he still accomplished all he did that year, I can't wait for this one!  I remember thinking that season he was missing some confidence, just didn't have that spark of leadership a great quarterback usually does.  Feeling under prepared would certainly explain that.  Can't wait for this season to get started! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on August 14, 2012, 05:09:58 PM
A brief conversation I had with Wesley Head Coach Mike Drass today.  Sounded like he was ready to begin the real hitting drills tomorrow.

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=44890 (http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=44890)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 15, 2012, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on August 12, 2012, 05:51:19 PM
Nice article in today's Delaware State News about Justin Sottilare and his preparation for this year after having a year off (couldn't find an on-line version to link to).  Gist of it was that when he became the starter two years ago after McSweeny's injury, he really wasn't properly prepared going into the season - hadn't focused on strength training or the playbook as much as he should have over the summer since he planned to be a back-up.  Those things have been corrected this time around and he's ready to go.  Wow - if that's true and he still accomplished all he did that year, I can't wait for this one!  I remember thinking that season he was missing some confidence, just didn't have that spark of leadership a great quarterback usually does.  Feeling under prepared would certainly explain that.  Can't wait for this season to get started!

The fact that Sottilaire broke the season TD mark that year said everything even with Krout in the mix.  Justin is a great guy and he really stepped up to the plate and gave Wesley another shot in the semi's.  This year I think he is just going to blister the secondary.  He had a lot of good experience watching McSweeny last year from the coache's booth and that bodes really well.  I talked to him many times during the games while filming, and for the first time, he was seeing holes and possibilities that he could have exploited from a vantage point that only a year removed from the field could give him.  It really opened his eyes.  I am really pumped to see him in action once again!  It is going to be a great year!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on August 16, 2012, 08:42:48 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on August 14, 2012, 05:09:58 PM
A brief conversation I had with Wesley Head Coach Mike Drass today.  Sounded like he was ready to begin the real hitting drills tomorrow.

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=44890 (http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=44890)

Great link, and really enjoyed the videos there too.  Was happy to hear a few mentions of Jordan Westcott returning on defense and am looking forward to seeing him after being away for a year too (though I will admit to being partial since my husband coached him at Woodbridge High).   

Another player I'm anxious to see is Sammy Mohr, freshman from Cape Henlopen.  Saw him a couple times last year and at this summer's Blue-Gold game.  Was very impressed with his speed and athleticism as a DB.  Can't wait to see how he makes the transition to this level and hope he can be an asset for the future.

It's killing me that the first game is so far away.  Any of you heading down?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 17, 2012, 06:46:29 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on August 16, 2012, 08:42:48 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on August 14, 2012, 05:09:58 PM
A brief conversation I had with Wesley Head Coach Mike Drass today.  Sounded like he was ready to begin the real hitting drills tomorrow.

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=44890 (http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=44890)

Great link, and really enjoyed the videos there too.  Was happy to hear a few mentions of Jordan Westcott returning on defense and am looking forward to seeing him after being away for a year too (though I will admit to being partial since my husband coached him at Woodbridge High).   

Another player I'm anxious to see is Sammy Mohr, freshman from Cape Henlopen.  Saw him a couple times last year and at this summer's Blue-Gold game.  Was very impressed with his speed and athleticism as a DB.  Can't wait to see how he makes the transition to this level and hope he can be an asset for the future.

It's killing me that the first game is so far away.  Any of you heading down?

I'll be there, of course!  I'll be wearing my Bryan Robinson #92 jersey while my wife will have McAndrew's #1.  It sure pays to get to the jersey sales early!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on August 17, 2012, 11:54:05 PM
Enjoy the trip!  I think we're saving our pennies for a trip to CA.  We've always talked about heading out to an Oakland Raiders game, so this sounds like as good an excuse as any to actually do it this year.  Trying to work out our schedule so we get to see more of CA than two football fields and an airport ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on August 19, 2012, 06:36:55 AM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on August 17, 2012, 11:54:05 PM
Enjoy the trip!  I think we're saving our pennies for a trip to CA.  We've always talked about heading out to an Oakland Raiders game, so this sounds like as good an excuse as any to actually do it this year.  Trying to work out our schedule so we get to see more of CA than two football fields and an airport ;)

Going all the way to CA, it would be a shame to limit your experience to two football fields and an airport. I'll try to send you a link for a listing of the high school games in CA on Friday night. Three football fields and an airport just sounds much, much better!  :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on August 19, 2012, 09:10:40 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 09, 2012, 07:39:24 PM
ski, or anyone else who may know, what is the date for the scrimmage?  if it is at widener I will certainly make the trip since it is only 5 mins away.


wesleydad,

Is this year Wesley's year to win it all? Your thoughts? :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 19, 2012, 10:08:59 AM
Raider68, not sure.  they have the ability to be very good on offense.  The d lost a couple of key pieces, but the d backs should be better and they always seem to find a strong d lineman to step in each year.  I hope to get an idea of how good when I get to the scrimmage against Widener this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dlippiel on August 19, 2012, 10:11:56 AM
Quote from: Raider 68 on August 19, 2012, 09:10:40 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 09, 2012, 07:39:24 PM
ski, or anyone else who may know, what is the date for the scrimmage?  if it is at widener I will certainly make the trip since it is only 5 mins away.


wesleydad,

Is this year Wesley's year to win it all? Your thoughts? :-\

dlip will give this a shot if Raider68 does not mind :)

Before the summer dlip felt this may be the year The Gulls of Salisbury take down their rival Wesley. After looking at what Wesley has this year, reading some of the posts on the site, and being quite aware of Salisbury's strengths, dlip does not feel that is the case. As a matter of fact, to dlip, this may be the best Wesley team in some time. Drass seems pretty confident in what he has, on both sides of the football. Wesley looks to have some serious players at the skill positions and with the return of Justin Sottilare, whom many say during his breakout season (two years ago) he was still learning (WOW  :o), this Wesley team may be able to get over the hump that is the semi-finals. With U-Dub Dub Dub Dub Dub looking nasty as always, dlip feels Wesley's only realistic way to the finals will be through the Purple Raiders. Mount, who dlip feels will still be amazing, seems as if they may have a few kinks in the armor this season (honestly, they don't look like kinks to dlip, but he is speaking in comparision to U-Dub and Wesley). The few times dlip has seen Seaman play he has not been overly impressed (but still impressed :)) and with the absence of a featured returning back this may just be the year Wesley can outgun the Raiders. Does dlip think it will happen???? Who knows, but he guesses it's possible this year.

A good indication early for Wesley will be their results against their absurd schedule. Their games against the likes of ETBaptist, the aforementioned Salisbury Gulls, Louisiana College, UMHB, and even Birmingham Southern will be telltale in regards to their potential to defeat the likes of UMU and/or U-Dub. Gonna be a great year fellas!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on August 19, 2012, 10:39:55 AM
Quote from: dlip on August 19, 2012, 10:11:56 AM
Quote from: Raider 68 on August 19, 2012, 09:10:40 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 09, 2012, 07:39:24 PM
ski, or anyone else who may know, what is the date for the scrimmage?  if it is at widener I will certainly make the trip since it is only 5 mins away.


wesleydad,

Is this year Wesley's year to win it all? Your thoughts? :-\

dlip will give this a shot if Raider68 does not mind :)

Before the summer dlip felt this may be the year The Gulls of Salisbury take down their rival Wesley. After looking at what Wesley has this year, reading some of the posts on the site, and being quite aware of Salisbury's strengths, dlip does not feel that is the case. As a matter of fact, to dlip, this may be the best Wesley team in some time. Drass seems pretty confident in what he has, on both sides of the football. Wesley looks to have some serious players at the skill positions and with the return of Justin Sottilare, whom many say during his breakout season (two years ago) he was still learning (WOW  :o), this Wesley team may be able to get over the hump that is the semi-finals. With U-Dub Dub Dub Dub Dub looking nasty as always, dlip feels Wesley's only realistic way to the finals will be through the Purple Raiders. Mount, who dlip feels will still be amazing, seems as if they may have a few kinks in the armor this season (honestly, they don't look like kinks to dlip, but he is speaking in comparision to U-Dub and Wesley). The few times dlip has seen Seaman play he has not been overly impressed (but still impressed :)) and with the absence of a featured returning back this may just be the year Wesley can outgun the Raiders. Does dlip think it will happen???? Who knows, but he guesses it's possible this year.

A good indication early for Wesley will be their results against their absurd schedule. Their games against the likes of ETBaptist, the aforementioned Salisbury Gulls, Louisiana College, UMHB, and even Birmingham Southern will be telltale in regards to their potential to defeat the likes of UMU and/or U-Dub. Gonna be a great year fellas!

dlip,

Good analysis! I think Wesley will be strong but they have some strong tests to determine how they look going into the playoffs. The general consensus based upon Pat's D3 poll is that the Raiders have only a 1 in 5 chance of winning the title. The loss of M. Piloto and J. Murray will have some impact, but the Raiders will still be strong. If and it is a big if, the QB is strong and consistant they will still be a force this fall. The Raiders will have an answer at RB. The key to most championship teams is defense and the top teams all have great defenses. So this fall will be another great season to watch for all of us and IMHO, it could come down to which team peaks at the right times and avoids a key injury late in the season. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on August 19, 2012, 11:54:34 PM
Is it that time already?!?!

Here's my analysis of Wesley going into it. Sottilare will return as a definite strength for the offense and is capable of being an All-American, but like last year, the success of the offense as a whole will depend on the success of the QB. Jahad and Wright (torn ACL last year) will be a good combo out of the backfield, but where this team really hides its weapons is at reciever. Im going to venture state that this team has the fastest recievers in all of D3 with Matt Barile, Steve Koudossou, and Matt Bundy. They also have some key possession recievers like Howe and Robinson. If the o-line gives Sottilare time to throw...itll be a long day for the defense.

The defense will be interesting to see who steps up. Look for Kirk Brooks, and Sosthene Kapepula to anchor linebacker spots. Devin Hardy will make plays on the line. But there are still question marks up front and in the secondary, although I do think that Leon Jones is a playmaker-to-be.

As for the schedule: its the toughest in D3. Hands down. It will be an interesting challenge for sure.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 20, 2012, 04:37:43 PM
Great discussion guys!  Wesley always seems to draw strength from the depths when skilled players leave.  No doubt, this will be the case again this year.  What I like about that is the fact that Wesley seems to play at a higher level with relatively unknown (albeit skilled) players who are out to prove themselves.  Sometimes the cadre gets complacent and that has bit Wesley in the past.   Everybody will be gunning to be the team to beat Wesley again this year and that will provide a real challenge for the Wolverines.   I am really pumped even though I will not be filming the team for the first time since 2009!  :(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 20, 2012, 06:48:06 PM
dlip, nice job on the preview.  Wesley will score, how much the other team scores will be the question.  I will reserve my overall until I see the scrimmage, which I believe to be Thursday against Widener.  The Pride have a top notch QB so it will be an early test to see what is needed if anything in the d backfield.  The schedule is out of control, but I like it because with the Del Val/Rowan game the first week I will get to see 4 of the top teams in the country in the 1st 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on August 22, 2012, 11:01:40 PM
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20120822/SPORTS08/308220035/QB-Sottilare-makes-return-huddle?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CHome%7Cs&nclick_check=1 (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20120822/SPORTS08/308220035/QB-Sottilare-makes-return-huddle?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CHome%7Cs&nclick_check=1)

Today's News Journal had an article about Sottilare's return at QB.  Nothing new, but nice article.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 23, 2012, 08:14:27 PM
just came back from the scrimmage and as i expected Wesley will be able to score.  Seems like they are looking for the quick pass at the line of scrimmage when the d backs lay off which is going to happen often.  they were able to throw the long pass anytime they wanted with one going for a td and several others for long gains.  Knapp has also put in a wildcat package which if they get it squared away, one fumble, it will give teams something else to worry about.  good luck to any defense that has to face this bunch of receivers who are just bottom line fast.  the d looked to have the same issues, covering the short pass and missing tackles when looking for the big hit.  the beginning of the year may end up being an outscore the other team, (salisbury and umhb) before the d gets it together.  i hope that they are able to run the ball a little bit better than they did tonight, but that will just be icing on the cake especially if the wildcat ends up working well.  looking forward to seeing them plan salisbury and umhb.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 23, 2012, 09:07:20 PM
Great report!  +1!  I wish I could have made it myself, but it wasn't even close.  Looking forward to seeing Wesley in person at Salisbury! 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on August 23, 2012, 09:13:21 PM
Thanks for the analysis.  Did you think the issues with the running game were due more to the line, or the ball carriers?  I'm a bit disheartened to hear of the same old defensive problems - hope that can be improved on.  Did Hopkins or the other receiver they moved to DB get much time back there?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 23, 2012, 09:22:02 PM
dont know who was playing d back, did not have a roster with me to look at.  widener has a good qb and he was able to complete passes, did have one picked off and returned for a td though.  that was a positive on d.  the running game just looks slow.  plays just seem to develope almost in slow motion.  i know about reading blocks and stuff but not sure if they blame can be put on any running back or the o line.  the o line did a nice job pass blocking which is what wesley will need to be top team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on August 23, 2012, 09:54:38 PM
The interception sounds encouraging.  Glad you were able to make it to the scrimmage.  Can't wait for the season to start - I feel like a little kid waiting for Christmas morning  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dlippiel on August 24, 2012, 07:27:58 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on August 22, 2012, 11:01:40 PM
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20120822/SPORTS08/308220035/QB-Sottilare-makes-return-huddle?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CHome%7Cs&nclick_check=1 (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20120822/SPORTS08/308220035/QB-Sottilare-makes-return-huddle?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CHome%7Cs&nclick_check=1)

Today's News Journal had an article about Sottilare's return at QB.  Nothing new, but nice article.

Very nice article on Sottilare. Kid seems very mature and really is aware of the great opportunity he has the year. Dlip wishes him tons of luck on his season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: TxFight on August 25, 2012, 07:31:04 PM
Looks like Wesley may get a break in their opener...its only predicted to be 92 in Texas on Saturday  8-)

Personally I was hoping for about 102 (like it has been recently).  Obviously that was a joke just looking forward to see a good ballgame to kick off the year.  ETBU played Wesley tough last year but turnovers and inability to score in the red zone (often due to turnovers or penalties) killed them.  ETBU has to replace the most dangerous player in program (albeit brief 12 year) history at quarterback and another 1000 yard back.  Wesley fans whats your take?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 26, 2012, 08:37:01 PM
TxFight, I would figure that ETBU will have trouble stopping Wesley from scoring.  If ETBU is replacing the players that kept them in the game last year, then they may be in for a long day.  Recent history shows that most of Wesley's non-playoff loses occur in the first couple weeks of the season, so ETBU has that going for them.  Also, the travel and this is nothing against ETBU, but Wesley could easily be looking ahead to the rivalry game(s) with Salisbury the following week and Mary Hardin Baylor the week after that.  Wesley will have to protect the ball and avoid stupid penalties, 2 issues that have cost them early in the season in years past.  If they play to their potential they will likely score in the 40's, can ETBU match that?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: TxFight on August 26, 2012, 10:31:45 PM
Wesleydad, its an interesting question asking whether or not ETBU can match that.  They are going to be a different offense without Harris at QB.  Last year the OC did a great job of calling the offense to Harris' strengths (quick passing and the option run game).  It will be impossible to replace what Harris brought to the table.  But the guy that will be taking the snaps is no "new-comer" to the college game.  He has a similar career path as Sottilare.  Its definitely possible that this could turn into a shootout.  But its really an unknown because the offense has never been truly tailored to his style.  As a freshman he started the last 4 games and was the starter going into the season opener as a Sophomore until an injury in the scrimmage kept him out and put Harris back at QB.  So i really can't answer what ETBU is going to be able to do on offense.  Its not so much that they are replacing folks from last year as it might be if it were someone who has never started at QB.  You guys at Wesley know as much about that as anybody.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on August 27, 2012, 09:07:34 PM
The first game of the season always worries me - so many unknowns, so many changes to get used to, so many bugs to work out....  That said, I think Wesley's offense should come out strong enough to carry the game.  But it will be interesting to see how we do on defense, especially since it sounds like ETBU's offense will be so different from last year.  Hope it's a great game and both sides come out injury free.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on August 27, 2012, 11:38:00 PM
Ive got a good feeling coming into the season. Last year against ETBU I felt that the team was very "green" with a lot of guys still learning to play together. This will be the case on defense this year with a lot of key pieces gone but, we are returning a lot of veterans on offense that has played together for at least 1 whole season, so hopefully the offense will start to find a groove here early on. I'm excited to see Sottilare perfect his passing game this season...trust me, he never once reached his full potential in 2010, and when he does, look out! I think the loss to Mount last year showed this team that they are very, very, very close to making the Purple Powers the Big 3. It showed them they can play with (and beat) the like off UWW or Mount. But for now, ETBU looms!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 28, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Well, if there is one thermometer that Wesley is always guaged by is execution, execution and execution.  We talk about it every year: keep penalties and mistakes to a minimum and you win.  This year should be like any other.  If Wesley can keep the penalties down, then they are really tough to beat.  If Wesley gets sloppy, that easily opens the door for other teams to even things up.  Once you get a giant on the ropes, the giant killers hone in for the kill.  We saw this with Kean, Montclair State and nearly Hobart.  Wesley is good, but not too good to commit big mistakes and walk away with a win.    That said, if I learned anything about Wesley, is that the coaches instill the heart of the game into the players.   Last year's Linfield game was the best game I have ever seen on any level.  To be behind by 20 points at the half to a top DIII team and body slam them in the second like that was just epic.  That took moxy.  If they can bring that kind of spirit to the game this season, it will be a good year.

They just gotta keep their game TIGHT!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: TxFight on August 29, 2012, 09:01:46 AM
well it appears I may have spoke too soon...Saturday could have sloppy field conditions thanks to Isaac.  We've know got 80% chance of rain Thursday in Marshall which is not a good thing for a grass field with a game that weekend. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on August 29, 2012, 04:33:01 PM
My Weekly Pre-Game conversation with Wesley Head Coach Mike Drass.  This will also air during Saturday's Pre-Game show.

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=45219 (http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=45219)

Also, for those in the know, we do a segment during the broadcast called the "Great BBQ Tour of the South."  Suggestions welcomed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 29, 2012, 06:02:46 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on August 29, 2012, 04:33:01 PM
My Weekly Pre-Game conversation with Wesley Head Coach Mike Drass.  This will also air during Saturday's Pre-Game show.

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=45219 (http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=45219)

Also, for those in the know, we do a segment during the broadcast called the "Great BBQ Tour of the South."  Suggestions welcomed.
I hope that the Great BBQ Tour of the South will feature the great BBQ that we serve in Texas.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on August 29, 2012, 06:06:22 PM
We're at ETBU this weekend.  There will be slight modifications to allow for the "Great Gumbo Tour of the South" when in Louisiana and the "Great Clam Chowder in a Bread Bowl Tour of the West" when in California.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 29, 2012, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on August 29, 2012, 06:06:22 PM
We're at ETBU this weekend.  There will be slight modifications to allow for the "Great Gumbo Tour of the South" when in Louisiana and the "Great Clam Chowder in a Bread Bowl Tour of the West" when in California.
There is plenty of great BBQ in east Texas.

Bodacious BBQ, in several locations.

Porky's, for those of you who have not discovered Barbecue Beef.

Barbecue Express

The Brown Pig ... more southern style pork
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on August 30, 2012, 11:39:47 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 29, 2012, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on August 29, 2012, 06:06:22 PM
We're at ETBU this weekend.  There will be slight modifications to allow for the "Great Gumbo Tour of the South" when in Louisiana and the "Great Clam Chowder in a Bread Bowl Tour of the West" when in California.
There is plenty of great BBQ in east Texas.

Bodacious BBQ, in several locations.

Porky's, for those of you who have not discovered Barbecue Beef.

Barbecue Express

The Brown Pig ... more southern style pork

The Salt Lick in Round Rock and Schoepf's in Belton were awesome last year.

No Texas BBQ for me this weekend, but I will be headed to PA for annual family pig roast in Quiggleville. Now, I just need to take some good sauce with me.

I couldn't talk my wife into letting me check out Misericordia's first game as a program, but I may be able to catch Lycoming vs. Brockport.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 30, 2012, 04:20:05 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on August 29, 2012, 06:06:22 PM
We're at ETBU this weekend.  There will be slight modifications to allow for the "Great Gumbo Tour of the South" when in Louisiana and the "Great Clam Chowder in a Bread Bowl Tour of the West" when in California.

Sean,

I am really looking forward to another great season of listening to our Wesley eyes and ears, WDEL!  Many thanks for your awesome insight and play calling! I know you will be working overtime in keeping up with all of the traveling, that is for sure.  It will be strange listening to you on the radio rather than standing behind you at halftime!  Keep up the awesome work.  We will be listening attentively!!   ;D

-Ski

p.s.  I can assuredly say we would be absolutely lost without you and WDEL!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 30, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
good luck to the wolverines this weekend against ETBU.  I expect them to win the game and they should as long as the protect the ball and avoid the personal foul penalties.  Hopefully the rain will have moved out of the area by game time and the game will be a good one.  I will be beginning my Wesleydad travels by heading to Rowan for the Del Val/ Rowan game.  Be interested in seeing the 9th ranked team in the country.  Next week it will be off to Salisbury to see the 7th ranked team and then the following week in Dover to see the 4th ranked team.  Have not finalized the rest of the travels, but a trip to Bridgewater is a certainty.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: TxFight on August 31, 2012, 09:48:46 AM
Right now its 60% today and 30% tomorrow as far as rain goes.  If the sun is out then I do not envy the football players Saturday.  Rain in Texas means one thing...HUMIDITY!  You walk outside for 10 seconds and you'll be drenched in sweat.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 31, 2012, 10:44:35 AM
TxFight, enjoy the game.  I will be looking forward to your thoughts on it afterwards.  Humidity is no fun, certainly not playing a football game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2012, 12:51:34 PM
Go Wesley!!
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 01, 2012, 05:20:42 PM
Can't wait to hear the opinions of anyone who actually saw the game.  Sounded like it was much as expected - slow start, a little sloppy, but getting it together when it mattered - typical early season Wesley football....  Was Morris the receiver they moved to defense this year?  If so he obviously caught on fast with his multiple interceptions.  Looking forward to seeing them with my own eyes in Salisbury.

Wesleydad - Did you enjoy the upset at Rowan?  Hopefully that will be the last one you see for several weeks :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 01, 2012, 05:42:37 PM
DE wesley, did not expect that result at all.  figured Del Val would win easily, but the were totally outplayed.  Rowan's d front 7 dominated the game, kept Del Val's offense bottled up for most of the game.  If Rowan was not in the NJAC title discussion before they certainly are now.  I was disappointed in what Del Val was doing on offense,seemed to be forcing things that did not play to the QB's strenths, keeping him in he pocket instead of roll outs and sprint plays.  I will be in Salisbury next week and I agree, hope not to see another upset for a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 01, 2012, 05:45:15 PM
Yeah, that was about as sloppy as you can get!  Wesley was true to form for its first game.  Sottilaire was really cold, overthrowing the ball to just about everybody.  Add a couple dropped passes and quite a few silly turnovers and you have what I dread on a bad Wesley day.  I am sure the heat had some impact, and the number of cramping players made that obvious.

A win is a win and as mentioned, Morris' 4 interceptions could be a Wesley record, so cudos to him!  It was strange to hear Cumming's name as the halfback, but he is a real brute, so that change was obvious, hehehe.

Well, it will be another Wesley season of brilliance marred by mistakes.  Drass' boys make it work, though.  Somehow.  Now it is onto Salisbury which will be one tough game.  I will be there, of course.

I know that Wesley has the ability to work out the cobwebs and they will do so.  Sottilaire did have 5 TD passes.....

-Ski
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Post by: TxFight on September 01, 2012, 09:33:26 PM
Special Teams and Turnovers absolutely killed ETBU.  Wesley's first TD came on third and goal from the 10 after they returned the kickoff to the 9.  The TD that put Wesley up 21-14 came after a 50 yard punt return to the ETBU 19.  The last touchdown came after an interception at midfield.  Add in that ETBU fumbled on the 9 going in after a 10 play 70 yard drive to get it down there with the score 14-12 midway through the 2nd quarter.  That absolutely took the wind out of ETBU's sails.   It was an interesting play call to begin with because ETBU went to the wildcat (which had not been successful on the 2 or 3 times they had ran it to that point.)

ETBU came out swinging and looked mighty good.  Passing game was rolling and the defense was playing well.  If ETBU gets their special teams kinks worked out they are going to be very salty.  Also have to get better with 2nd half adjustments offensively.  Wesley made some defensive adjustments at halftime and ETBU looked like they kept trying to throw the same 3-4 pass plays. 

Good luck to the Wolverines the rest of the way!!
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Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2012, 10:13:58 PM
Wesleydad,

Look at usasouth board. CNU was thrashed in the last 19 minutes of game. Score was 20-16 with 4 min left in third qt. then SU ran CNU into the ground!!!! A good team. Score early and get them out of that triple option.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 01, 2012, 10:23:54 PM
cnu, got to watch most of the game, when i wasnt watching the fisher/thomas more game, and i saw what happened.  the gulls are tough and the running game wears the d down.  you guys do a great job with the videocast, clear picture and the announcers are pretty good.  they add nice info for those of us who are not cnu fans.  good luck the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 01, 2012, 10:59:10 PM
I agree a great presentation.  Looks like SU is still rooted in their triple option.  It will be a test for Wesley's D-line for sure.  I wasn't too impressed with their defense though.  If Wesley can contain the O-line, then they should have no problem containing the QB.  Regardless, it will be a good game next week!

-Ski
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Post by: wdelsean on September 03, 2012, 07:50:18 PM
Post-Game interview with Wesley safety Jared Morris who converted from Wide Receiver to collecting a school-record 4 interceptions against ETBU.

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=45333
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 03, 2012, 08:31:35 PM
Typical Game 1 for Wesley. Sottilare seemed like he was a little too anxious and the jitters got to him, overthrowing a lot of passes etc. The offense will settle in. This team will work out the cobwebs this week.

Salisbury next week will be interesting but IMHO, Salisbury needs a few new wrinkles in that option attack if they want to put up more than 14-17 points on the Wesley D. The Wolverines have become to familiar, hence the 7 straight Route 13 victories. I MAY be out there for that game....depending on my school work for this week. So maybe I will see you all then!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on September 04, 2012, 08:26:25 AM
Ready for a good game this week,,teams usually improve most from week one to week two,,so they should both be ready,,we will be there !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on September 04, 2012, 02:02:20 PM
Quote from: beenhit2hard on September 04, 2012, 08:26:25 AM
Ready for a good game this week,,teams usually improve most from week one to week two,,so they should both be ready,,we will be there !!!

Agree!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 05, 2012, 06:07:44 PM
quiet in here.  should be a good game this week.  watched much of the salisbury game last weekend and they look the same.  as these games usually do it will come down to wesley not turning the ball over and avoiding big plays by the gulls.  i think wesley should score in the 30's and it has been some time since the gulls have done that against wesley.  i will be looking forward to the game and sort of like the 600 start, makes it easier for me to get there on time.  see you at the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 05, 2012, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 05, 2012, 06:07:44 PM
quiet in here.  should be a good game this week.  watched much of the salisbury game last weekend and they look the same.  as these games usually do it will come down to wesley not turning the ball over and avoiding big plays by the gulls.  i think wesley should score in the 30's and it has been some time since the gulls have done that against wesley.  i will be looking forward to the game and sort of like the 600 start, makes it easier for me to get there on time.  see you at the game.

I am sure that Sottilaire will be more settled in this week as well.  I will see you at the game!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 06, 2012, 01:27:13 PM
A couple thoughts about the Salisbury game.  Like most of the games I have seen between the teams, I expect Salisbury to be able to run against Wesley's defense early while the Wolverines figure out the specific blocking assignments.  Films can only help so much in this regard and until the players see first hand what is coming at them, the advantage goes to the offense.  However, Wesley has had great success adjusting to a rigid offense.  The only thing I always worry about is the when the triple option moves to the outside of the tackle.  It is so important for the defense to stay at home and cover all of the options.  Wesley traditionally has gotten into the backfield and screwed up Salisbury's ability to option time and time again.  With the new D line, this is the $100 question on whether or not they can disrupt the QB.

It will be one hell of a game for sure and I hope Wesley can force some of those famous Salisbury fumbles.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 07, 2012, 12:15:12 AM
Well said Ski. If any of you are concerned I will be making the journey out to Dover tomorrow, then from there to Salisbury. Hope to see you all there!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on September 07, 2012, 01:48:48 AM
This week's conversation with Mike Drass, including his thoughts on me having an air-conditioned suite in the press box at ETBU.

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=45417
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dlippiel on September 07, 2012, 08:37:29 PM
dlip has to favor Wesley here and does by at least one TD. He has a ton of respect for Wesley and almost always pulls for them but here, dlip is pulling for the Gulls big time. Good luck to both teams and dlip hopes for a competitive, exciting, and injury free game for both teams. A top ten rivalry in week #2 is about as good as it gets. Enjoy and safe travels to all heading down!

Wesley 34-17
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 08, 2012, 08:21:38 AM
game day, beenhit2hard, ski and waterboy, I will see you at the game.  Weather looks like it could be an issue with 30 - 40% chance of t storms during the game.  Rain would seem to favor Wesley since a wet ball would make the option game a little tougher to run.  As usual, avoid turnovers and the stupid penalties and Wesley should win the game.  CNU was able to contain the Gulls last week for most of 3 quarters so I believe Wesley will be able to do it too.  Ski mentioned the turnovers and Salisbury is known to give a couple of them a game.  It is always a good game and a fun atmosphere, will be interesting to see how under the lights adds to it.  Safe travels to all going.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 08, 2012, 12:17:19 PM
 Would like to see Wesley  get the ground game going a bit. You don't want teams being able to all out blitz all day long. Should be another good one But I think Wesley's D will hold down Salisbury's O Weather could play a big part in this one!!   
With the bad weather and the long trip I am going to have to listen to Jason and Sean on the PC tonight. Going to miss next week also because I have a date with a surgeon on Tuesday. Hope to be able to travel by home coming. Supposed to be video of tonights game . Everyone travel safe ... 
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Post by: footballfan413 on September 08, 2012, 05:19:46 PM
To fans of D-3 football everywhere.  I am honored to have been asked to spread the word regarding a new cancer fund that has been established to help Tom Pattison, UW-W sports broadcaster and founder of www.warhawkfootball.com    I and my family know, all to well, how a cancer diagnosis can be devastating to a families daily lives and finances. Please, consider making even the smallest donation to Tom.

The following is an open letter by Retired UW-W Coach Bob Berezowitz:

Team Tom Cancer Fund Drive established

Once a Warhawk, always a Warhawk are the often spoken words by Tom Pattison, longtime "voice" of the Warhawks. Over the many years of broadcasting UW-Whitewater football, basketball and baseball games on KOOL 106.5 (and prior to that (940 WFAW), Tom has "bled purple" during each one of his broadcasts.

Unfortunately, on May 28, 2012 Tom was diagnosed with advanced stage 2 colon cancer. He underwent colorectal cancer surgery in Fort Atkinson and in the process has developed astronomical hospital and medical bills.

Tom has already gone through the first phase of radiation treatment at the UW Cancer Clinic along with chemotherapy with phase two starting later this month.

Tom has given his heart and soul to Warhawk athletics over his 25 years of living here in southern Wisconsin. He served six years as the president of the UW-Whitewater Quarterback Club and still serves on the club's board of directors.

In 2003 Tom founded Warhawkfootball.com where Warhawk fans, players, former players and parents have been able to view up-to-date Warhawk football news and information 365 days a year. Nearly 1.5 million visitors have clicked onto the Website over the years.

The Website that has been funded entirely by Tom has been a popular "voice" for Warhawk football fans not only locally but around the world.

Well now Tom needs your assistance in his battle with cancer.

With the help and leadership of UW-Whitewater Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Dr. Paul Plinke and former Warhawk football coach Bob Berezowitz and KOOL 106.5 Radio a team has been set up to lead a campaign to raise funds for Tom.

The "Team Tom Cancer Fund" has been established through Commercial Bank in Whitewater and is now accepting donations.

Donations may be sent to: Team Tom Cancer Fund, c/o Commercial Bank, 200 South Freemont St. Whitewater, WI 53190


The fund raising drive will also include Tom Pattison Day at Perkins Stadium on Oct. 6, 2012. More details will be announced shortly.

"I have known Tom for many years while coaching and now in retirement," Berezowitz said. "There is not another person who has given more of himself to help promote UW-Whitewater football. He is always writing articles for both past and present players that are published on his Website.

It is now our turn to say "thank you" for his efforts by considering making a donation to the to assist Tom in his time of need.

Go Warhawks,
Bob Berezowitz
UW-Whitewater Football Coach/Retired
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 09, 2012, 08:41:59 AM
good football game played by 2 pretty good teams.  I believe the final score was closer than it could/should have been.  Salisbury was able to move the ball between the 20's but never really threatened the end zone except for a couple of occasions.  Wesley's d made the plays that they had to make to get off the field evidenced by the fact that Salisbury only punted 1 time and attempted no field goals.  They went for numerous 4th downs due to being out of field goal range but too close to punt.  They are going to be a tough out for anyone left on their schedule and were held to only 7 due to Wesley's familiarity with the offense; others teams won't have that or the athletes to implement the plan to shut it down.  They have a pretty good defense too.  Wesley was in the position to score 5 or 6 times but didn't get it done.  The stats show Sottilaire going 23 - 32, but their were 2 drops inside the 15 that would have kept drives alive.  Wesley did establish the run which was a welcome sign since they will have to to stop teams from just teeing off on Sottilaire.  The main concern is how confused the offense looked.  Plays and personel seemed to take forever to get in on at least a dozen occasions during the game.  The frustrating part is that when the game became 10 - 7 with 6+ minutes to go, Wesley went on an 80 yard drive where on almost every play the team had to stand around and let 7 - 10 seconds run off the clock because the play had been called and the personel were ready to go.  It was one of the most efficient drives I have seen in some time.  Why can't it be handled that way every time.  A pretty clean game as far as turnovers with the rain and wind and with penalties, only 5 for each team.  There was the usual after play chirping that you get with this rivalry but a well played and sportsmanlike game.  Clean up the offensive confusion and this is going to be a pretty good team.  Looking forward to next weeks game with #4 UMHB.  Will be a fun time in Dover next weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 09, 2012, 10:59:58 AM
I concur with Wesleydad.  Once the cobwebs gets cleared on the offense, Wesley will be back to its 2010 form once again.  There is still lots of work that needs to be done.  Even though the yards don't show it, the running game looks to be the best I have seen since Mike Pennewell.  Askia Jihad has really bulked up and Robinson is quick, so we have our Ajax/Pennewell combo once again.   I really liked watching Cummings as a half back.  He really bulked up as well for his role!  Wesley did lose out on some awesome opportunities to score and the interception of Sottilaire's pass into the endzone from the 10 yard line to end the first half was a ball buster for sure.  That would have put Wesley up 14-0.  It could have been 21-0 easily if the mistakes didn't cost the Wolverines including hiking the ball over Cumming's head on the 5 yard line.....Very promising though as Sottilaire gets his passing worked up.

I thought Salisbury would run well at the beginning and then taper off as Wesley learned the blocking schemes as it has been in the past.  This didn't really happen like that.  For the most part, Salisbury worked the inside in the first half and was quite unsuccessful.  However, like the CNU game, they started to work on the swing outs in the second half with a tired Wesley defense and that really started to cause problems.  That said, the defense ultimately won the game.

Salisbury put up a really good fight this time around.  They were pumped up and ready to play.  Their Achilles heel is their triple option offense that cannot attack quickly to get back into a game.  They had some good passes, but for the most part, their running game requires them to stay close or lead while controlling the clock.  If they match up to a quick scoring team (as Wesley could have been) they can get into trouble.  Oh, and Salisbury did drop the ball quite a bit as I had predicted.  Sometimes when they get packed up on the inside, their choreography gets off kilter and the ball goes where it isn't supposed to. 

Well, we see UMHB next week and that will be a true test for an early season Wesley team.  It will be interesting to see if Wesley can get their playoff shoes on and mitigate the mistakes to keep the pressure on the Crusaders. 


It was great seeing Waterboy and Wesleydad at the game.  Great talk guys!

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on September 09, 2012, 01:44:18 PM
Wesleydad,

I agree the game was well played by both teams. I believe that Wesley capitalized on its opportunities and made the plays on crucial 3rd and 4th downs. Wesley offensive line did a great job protecting the quarterback and giving him enough time to make decisions and he made good decisions throughout the game. As for Salisbury, I believe there were drives that appeared that they were going to score but was stop either by a turnover or just not making the play (i.e. drop pass in the endzone). Salisbury defense played well, I believe they were opportunistic and put the offense in good position. Nevertheless, each team played well and it appeared that the game could have went either way, now way did I think there was going to be a spread of more than 14 by any team. Good game by both teams, good luck to Wesley next week agains UMHB. As for Salisbury, were not going to let that game define our season and what it still can be, were going to put a comma after that game and move forward and focus on NC Wesleyan and take care of business. Again, good game by both teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 09, 2012, 02:42:12 PM
Agree completely with the previous comments.  It was quite frustrating with the amount of time Wesley took to get plays & personnel in on offense, and the wasting of time outs early in both halves.   But I seem to remember similar issues in all the recent SU games.   Justin looked pretty composed except for his frustration with getting the calls in, and was throwing some good balls.    His blocking was rather half-hearted and needs improvement - but I guess when compared with McSweeney, most any QB's would.  I was thinking the same as WesleyDad - it was only on the drive after SU's touchdown that our offense looked crisp and in sync.   If we had that the entire game, there would have been a few more points on the board.    Don't know if it was the weather or early season issues, but we just couldn't seem to get in a good flow on offense for most of the game.  Sean Hopkins looked good at DB - great decision to move him and Morris to defense.    I was very impressed with SU's kick coverage - they were just flying down the field.  Can't wait till Saturday.  Hopefully we'll have better weather and can see what this team can really do.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on September 10, 2012, 08:32:12 AM
PA Wes,,good luck with the DR tomorrow,,  we will be thinking of you !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 10, 2012, 12:01:52 PM
Well I'm gonna go ahead and say the same thing. The offense is still working the cobwebs out. Hopefully that last touchdown drive will carry over into next Saturday. Sottilare looked really good when he stood tall in the pocket and delivered the ball straight down field. A few drops didnt help him, but those will take care of themselves, preferredly sooner rather than later. I believe that this game was a "win and get the heck out of there." The weather made it tough for both teams, so add that to early season woes and you have that game.

I was really impressed by the Wesley defense. They came up with big plays when they needed to, and did not really let Salisbury make a big play. And when SU did break off a big one, the D was able to quickly get the momentum back. The last drive at the end of the game by SU was of no concern. The defense I thought began to relax, as the game was already won, and from my vantage point looked like we got a safety early in that drive.

Ski, always nice seeing you. Wesleydad, I was looking all over for you! Where were you hiding?  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on September 10, 2012, 12:21:42 PM
Howdy boys, and ladies if you happen to be on here, it's good to see you again. Obviously the history between our two schools will be thrown out the door as this is the first time these two teams with these players will have played each other. I look forward to a great game.

I read through the previous posts, and it sounds like we are in the same place as far as clearing out the cobwebs and figuring some things out. The Cru looked good in their first game and I am intrigued, obviously, to see how this one pans out. I wish I could make the trip!

Have a great week, we'll see ya on the boards and on the field!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 10, 2012, 03:27:48 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on September 10, 2012, 12:21:42 PM
Howdy boys, and ladies if you happen to be on here, it's good to see you again. Obviously the history between our two schools will be thrown out the door as this is the first time these two teams with these players will have played each other. I look forward to a great game.

I read through the previous posts, and it sounds like we are in the same place as far as clearing out the cobwebs and figuring some things out. The Cru looked good in their first game and I am intrigued, obviously, to see how this one pans out. I wish I could make the trip!

Have a great week, we'll see ya on the boards and on the field!

The game is going to be a real bruiser for sure.  From the stats, it looked like the Crusaders ran the ball liberally.  I'm not sure this was due to the competition or if they are primarily a run team this year.  Either way, both teams are going to have to play some clean ball to win.  I also hope you have the same mascot you had the last time UMHB was in Dover.  He was hilarious!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on September 10, 2012, 05:09:48 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 10, 2012, 03:27:48 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on September 10, 2012, 12:21:42 PM
Howdy boys, and ladies if you happen to be on here, it's good to see you again. Obviously the history between our two schools will be thrown out the door as this is the first time these two teams with these players will have played each other. I look forward to a great game.

I read through the previous posts, and it sounds like we are in the same place as far as clearing out the cobwebs and figuring some things out. The Cru looked good in their first game and I am intrigued, obviously, to see how this one pans out. I wish I could make the trip!

Have a great week, we'll see ya on the boards and on the field!

The game is going to be a real bruiser for sure.  From the stats, it looked like the Crusaders ran the ball liberally.  I'm not sure this was due to the competition or if they are primarily a run team this year.  Either way, both teams are going to have to play some clean ball to win.  I also hope you have the same mascot you had the last time UMHB was in Dover.  He was hilarious!

-Ski

Our mascot the last two years is different. The one you are thinking of went to the national mascot competition and ranked VERY high nationally, and this was against all NCAA schools. He was great! The new one is also good, and I'm sure he'll be there.

The key stat from the UMHB vs Kean game was LiDarrall's ability to throw the ball. 20-24 with NO INTs and 2 TDs. He looked very poised.

I'm excited for the game. It's...only...Monday!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 10, 2012, 05:40:13 PM
beenhit2hard

Thanks!!!! If I had a choice I would  pick football. I am getting tired of all this surgery stuff. One body part after another.. God willing I will be near a computer and listening. Don't think DR. will let me travel that soon after.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 10, 2012, 06:42:03 PM
pawesley, good luck tomorrow and hope all turns our well.  be seeing you down the road.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on September 10, 2012, 07:30:02 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 09, 2012, 08:41:59 AM
good football game played by 2 pretty good teams.  I believe the final score was closer than it could/should have been.  Salisbury was able to move the ball between the 20's but never really threatened the end zone except for a couple of occasions.  Wesley's d made the plays that they had to make to get off the field evidenced by the fact that Salisbury only punted 1 time and attempted no field goals.  They went for numerous 4th downs due to being out of field goal range but too close to punt.  They are going to be a tough out for anyone left on their schedule and were held to only 7 due to Wesley's familiarity with the offense; others teams won't have that or the athletes to implement the plan to shut it down.  They have a pretty good defense too.  Wesley was in the position to score 5 or 6 times but didn't get it done.  The stats show Sottilaire going 23 - 32, but their were 2 drops inside the 15 that would have kept drives alive.  Wesley did establish the run which was a welcome sign since they will have to to stop teams from just teeing off on Sottilaire.  The main concern is how confused the offense looked.  Plays and personel seemed to take forever to get in on at least a dozen occasions during the game.  The frustrating part is that when the game became 10 - 7 with 6+ minutes to go, Wesley went on an 80 yard drive where on almost every play the team had to stand around and let 7 - 10 seconds run off the clock because the play had been called and the personel were ready to go.  It was one of the most efficient drives I have seen in some time.  Why can't it be handled that way every time.  A pretty clean game as far as turnovers with the rain and wind and with penalties, only 5 for each team.  There was the usual after play chirping that you get with this rivalry but a well played and sportsmanlike game.  Clean up the offensive confusion and this is going to be a pretty good team.  Looking forward to next weeks game with #4 UMHB.  Will be a fun time in Dover next weekend.

In watching the game online, I was impressed with Wesley's size, speed, and athleticism.  It did not have the feel to me that these two teams were all that close in terms of size or athleticism. I think Salisbury should be given credit for hanging in there as well as they did.  However, I am surprised you felt like it was a pretty clean game, WD.  As I was watching it, I felt the same way as you, Wesley could have and should have won by more.  To me it had the feel of a sloppy game by Wesley.  They either fumbled or threw an interception on each of the first 5 possessions and didn't score on either of the next two possessions after that.  Mixed in there were the dropped passes you speak of.  Then came the impressive 79 yard drive. 

To be clear, I was impressed with the athletes I saw and I expect to see Wesley in the semi-finals again this year.  I know the weather wasn't good and may have been even more of a factor than I could see online.  Good luck against UMHB. It should be a great game.
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 10, 2012, 08:48:09 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on September 10, 2012, 12:21:42 PM
Howdy boys, and ladies if you happen to be on here, it's good to see you again. Obviously the history between our two schools will be thrown out the door as this is the first time these two teams with these players will have played each other. I look forward to a great game.

I read through the previous posts, and it sounds like we are in the same place as far as clearing out the cobwebs and figuring some things out. The Cru looked good in their first game and I am intrigued, obviously, to see how this one pans out. I wish I could make the trip!

Have a great week, we'll see ya on the boards and on the field!

I'm sure one thing we can count on being the same is UMHB's hard hitting defense.  I'll never forget that from the first time I saw you guys several years ago and thought "now THAT must be what Texas football is all about", and have been similarly impressed since.  Really anxious to see Wesley's offense without the excuse of bad weather (fingers crossed for that, anyway). 

Bleedpurple - can't disagree with your assessment.  I left the game glad for the win and thinking we were certainly the better team, but feeling rather underwhelmed by the offensive performance.
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Post by: thewaterboy on September 10, 2012, 10:52:54 PM
UMHB-Wesley has become quite the rivalry. Hopefully these two teams can battle it out free of cobwebs. IF the winner Saturday can win the rest of their games, IMHO, no one else deserves the #1 overall seed in the playoffs but them. Not even UWW, or Mount. These are two of the toughest schedules in the country, and I really hope this sets the tone for other perrenial powers to schedule games like this.

For Wesley, look for them to try to create lanes with Jahad to give Sottilare time to stand and deliver in the pocket. If Sottilare gets time to find Koudossou and Barile, look out Cru. Wesley's D needs to keep the good play going as well. Stopping the big play will be the biggest thing (like against Salisbury).

As for UMHB, well, I've always been worried about them. LiDarral Bailey, last year was perhaps the 2nd or 3rd best dual threat QB, next to McSweeny. It will be interesting to see how Wesley handles him compared to last year. Hopefully they will be able to pressure him enough to where he will make some mistakes throwing the football. I feel that Kean was unable to do that which allowed LDB to focus on his recievers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 11, 2012, 05:03:38 PM
bleedpurple, my clean comment was more about the fact that the weather was not the issue with the turnovers.  I was not happy with the ones you mentioned.  I agree, I don't think the game should have been close on the scoreboard either, but rivalry games tend to end up that way.  No doubt in my mind that Wesley is the better team.  The weather other than annoying did not have that much of an affect on the outcome as you might have thought if you were there.  I laughed when I looked at the game notes and saw that the wind was only listed at I think 15 mph.  There was hardly a time when it was ever under 15 mph.

Driving home today I got to thinking, WOW, this is as good a game as there may be until at least the quarter finals and maybe the semis.  Kudos to both teams for scheduling it knowing that they very well could meet again in the South region finals or maybe they get seperated and end up winning both regions they end up in and taking on the purples in the semis.  Waterboy, if Wesley runs the table it may be hard to argue the #1 overall seed as the schedule they are playing has to be one of the toughest anywhere.  It is only Tuesday, but I am really starting to get excited about this game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on September 11, 2012, 09:13:56 PM
LiDarral looked very calm as he threw Saturday. He had some pressure as the pocket closed, but he stayed in and delivered some great balls to his receivers. He has grown up over the summer.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on September 11, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 11, 2012, 05:03:38 PM
bleedpurple, my clean comment was more about the fact that the weather was not the issue with the turnovers.  I was not happy with the ones you mentioned.  I agree, I don't think the game should have been close on the scoreboard either, but rivalry games tend to end up that way.  No doubt in my mind that Wesley is the better team.  The weather other than annoying did not have that much of an affect on the outcome as you might have thought if you were there.  I laughed when I looked at the game notes and saw that the wind was only listed at I think 15 mph.  There was hardly a time when it was ever under 15 mph.

Driving home today I got to thinking, WOW, this is as good a game as there may be until at least the quarter finals and maybe the semis.  Kudos to both teams for scheduling it knowing that they very well could meet again in the South region finals or maybe they get seperated and end up winning both regions they end up in and taking on the purples in the semis.  Waterboy, if Wesley runs the table it may be hard to argue the #1 overall seed as the schedule they are playing has to be one of the toughest anywhere.  It is only Tuesday, but I am really starting to get excited about this game.

Sounds like we saw the same thing. Thanks for the clarification. Online, it definitely looked like Wesley has a big and fast and athletic team.  SU seemed a bit overmatched in that way. You are right, rivalries do tend to end up close, sometimes closer than they should be. 

What a great weekend for fans of both UMHB and Wesley.  It should be a great game.  I am expecting Wesley to win, but the Crusaders are a proud team and annually a legit Top 5 team. You may be right about the #1 overall seed thing.  I would also think the losing team this weekend would still be ranked highly.  It wouldn't seem right to put a premium on strength of schedule and then put a team's playoff lives unduly at risk when they schedule a marquee opponent.  Probably neither team will lose after Saturday, but stranger things have happened. If it did happen, either one should be in at 8-2 over 9-1 teams that didn't play anyone.  Have a great time at the game! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 12, 2012, 02:05:03 PM
Great discussion guys! 

Just got done reading the article on Wesley's secondary on the Around the Region page.  If there is a strong part of the team, it has got to be the secondary this year.  They are definitely grabbing those footballs!

I also agree with this week's game being the regular season game of the year for DIII.  You KNOW both teams will be extremely pumped up, so expect some physical play with the associated penalties, especially this early in the season.  Both quarterbacks have played each other already, so this seasonal rivalry is nothing new to either team.  These teams know eachother every bit as well as the Wesley/Salisbury rivalry, so I don't expect anything new to pop up unless somebody starts some wildcat action in there, which is definitely possible.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 12, 2012, 06:13:56 PM
Ski - thanks for mentioning the article on the secondary, as I would have missed it.

But I can't join the love-fest for the secondary just yet.  Can't speak to the ETBU game since I didn't see it (though anytime you have 4 picks it's a good day) and Salisbury didn't challenge us often down the field.  I don't want to bash anyone as I'm sure they all play as well and as hard as they can, but the returning DB's had some definite lapses last year that would have been very costly had the offense not compensated for them.  That's why I was thrilled to see Morris and Hopkins moved to defense, and at least so far that move looks to be paying off.  Hopefully by Saturday evening I'll be posting here that I've jumped on their band wagon and have to beg forgiveness for not believing in them just yet.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CruAlum58 on September 12, 2012, 09:03:10 PM
I am looking forward to driving up and checking out the WC and UMHB game. I was a senior in '05 and coached for several years at UMHB after that so I am familiar with the rivalry. First time checking it out from the stands... Maybe Pete will let me down on the sidelines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 12, 2012, 10:32:33 PM
crualum, enjoy the game.  it will be a good one.  wesley's defense will have to be on the top of their game in this one.  if bailey is able to throw the ball at all it could be a long day.  on the other hand if UMHB can't cover the wesley receivers any better than they did in the playoff game last year they could be in for a long day.  i think that if the o line comes up big wesley wins this one.  any type of running game will give sottilaire time to throw and good luck covering all the receivers.  i am looking forward to this game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on September 13, 2012, 09:17:48 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 12, 2012, 10:32:33 PM
crualum, enjoy the game.  it will be a good one.  wesley's defense will have to be on the top of their game in this one.  if bailey is able to throw the ball at all it could be a long day.  on the other hand if UMHB can't cover the wesley receivers any better than they did in the playoff game last year they could be in for a long day.  i think that if the o line comes up big wesley wins this one.  any type of running game will give sottilaire time to throw and good luck covering all the receivers.  i am looking forward to this game.

You're right about covering the the receivers, they are some speedsters. Even though I think UMHB will run the ball more than they pass (no brainer), I think they are more committed to using the pass than Salisbury was last week, especially with their pistol packages. The game will be a good test for both teams and as always, I will be rooting for our rival. Good Luck this upcoming weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 13, 2012, 07:17:24 PM
one more day until what could be a really good football game.  the weather will not be an issue, in the upper 70's.  looking forward to seeing if wesley can contain the UMHB offense and if the o line can get the job done on the ground.

it is nice to see that someone has no life that they take the time to ding my karma on a daily basis.  glad that i can at least give you something to look forward to because you obviously don't have anything else to do with your time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on September 14, 2012, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 12, 2012, 10:32:33 PM
crualum, enjoy the game.  it will be a good one.  wesley's defense will have to be on the top of their game in this one.  if bailey is able to throw the ball at all it could be a long day.  on the other hand if UMHB can't cover the wesley receivers any better than they did in the playoff game last year they could be in for a long day.  i think that if the o line comes up big wesley wins this one.  any type of running game will give sottilaire time to throw and good luck covering all the receivers.  i am looking forward to this game.

The game last year was very close, so if we do cover better, we'll be in good shapte!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 14, 2012, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: umhb2001 on September 14, 2012, 10:13:21 AM
The game last year was very close, so if we do cover better, we'll be in good shapte!!

Last year's playoff game certainly showed there's no quit in UMHB.  Looking forward to a great game.

How crazy is it that we can enjoy a great college football game with two top five teams, at a nice facility with convenient parking, for about the cost of high school game???  Gotta be the best value around.
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 14, 2012, 11:03:54 PM
First home game I've missed in a while but I will be listening to SEAN and JaBo
WDEL radio .. Should be a good game and a great day for football

Go WesleY!!!
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Post by: @d3jason on September 14, 2012, 11:26:12 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 14, 2012, 11:03:54 PM
First home game I've missed in a while but I will be listening to SEAN and JaBo
WDEL radio .. Should be a good game and a great day for football

Go WesleY!!!
Hope you are feeling well!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 15, 2012, 08:29:24 AM
pawesley, sorry to hear that you wont be making the trip.  hope all is going well with the recovery.  see you down the road.  shame, because this is going to be a real good one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 15, 2012, 09:11:14 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 15, 2012, 08:29:24 AM
pawesley, sorry to hear that you wont be making the trip.  hope all is going well with the recovery.  see you down the road.  shame, because this is going to be a real good one.

I agree, you will be missed!

It is a gorgeous day out today!!  The sun is out and in two hours or so, I will be taking my customary walk over to the Scott D. Miller stadium (I only live about 6 blocks away) to watch the game of the DIII season.  On the way, I will hit the Grocery Basket corner market and get my customary 12" turkey sub and a drink and head out past the Army Reserve armory exchanging glances with people looking at my Wesley football jersey and cushion seat slung over my shoulder.  The excitement builds when I pass through the ticket booth to see the first glances of Wesley and UMHB players running through their warm-ups and the chattering alumni as I pass by the endzone stand.  Ahhh, this is just so right!!

-Ski
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Post by: umhb2001 on September 15, 2012, 03:17:41 PM
Great game by both sides! Should be another great season and crazy playoffs! Great sportsmanship after the game and good luck on the season!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 15, 2012, 03:55:32 PM
Well, congrads to UMHB for a game well played.  They had a great defense with a matching offense. 

Wesley's offense was downright anemic in the first half.  The noticeable absence here was Askia Jahad who injured his knee at Salisbury.  He popped up in the second half for a couple plays without touching the ball and that was what Wesley had to show for a power running offense: nada.  You can't finesse runs again UMHB and this forced Wesley into a single dimensional passing scheme that UMHB did a good job covering.  My worst worries came true with Wesley's early season offensive mistakes.  While UMHB was pretty crisp on execution on offense, Wesley still had cobwebs galore.  Poor blocking on the offense resulted in Sottilaire's rushed passes.  Penalties early on curtailed any possible movement down the field.

Wesley's defense did what they could but (not seeing what the possession times were yet) they were on the field forever.  By the second half, at least 3 defensive players were down for cramps.  That said, the defense was solely responsible for Wesley staying in the game until the end.  They gave the offense opportunities to tie or win the game, and the offense just couldn't oblige.

So, while I was disappointed, Wesley did stay in the game.  They were down by 2 TD's in the 4th and yet kept at it.  On to next week and Louisiana College.  I am sure Wesley and UMHB will meet once again in the playoffs and the offense will show up and play by then.  They always do.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 15, 2012, 04:16:32 PM
.....and add the frustration of 3 missed PATS......    >:(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 15, 2012, 05:10:28 PM
The difference in this game was the UMHB defensive line and the ability of Bailey and Wilson to turn negative plays into positive ones.  Wesley's oline got manhandled all game.  They could not open any holes when Wesley attempted to run and they couldn't give Sottilaire enough time to make plays.  I mentioned earlier in the week that the o-line had to play well and they did not.  Bailey turned 2 plays into Td"s that could have just as easily been sacks which would have forced UMHB to kick field goals.  Lewis did the same thing on his TD run, hit in the backfield, breaks tackels and scores.  Wesley's d played pretty well but did not make the plays necessary to get off the field in the first half.  I believe UMHB converted all but 1 3rd down in the first half.  How good is Wesley, I guess that depends on how good UMHB is.  Despite being dominated by the d-line and no running game Wesley had the ball at mid field with 5 minutes to play with a chance to tie the game.  I think this will end up being a really good football team especially if the o-line steps up.  The missed extra points are killers in close games and overall the special teams look sloppy.  UMHB will be tough to beat and likely the 1 seed in the south.  With UWW losing the rest after Mount is wide open.  Should Mount stumble then this could be a really interesting season with numerous teams having a chance to win it all, including Wesley as long as they win out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 15, 2012, 07:38:02 PM
Congrats to the Cru for a great game and a well deserved win.

The most frustrating thing about the offense for me was that they showed flashes of brilliance (aka one of the early drives in the 1st quarter after a UMHB touchdown, similar to the one at SU last week after a score) where they click and go right down the field, but other times .... uggh.... The o-line got their butts kicked most of the game, receivers dropping  balls they should have caught and not coming back to the ball other times, Sottilare making some questionable throws, missed PAT's, stupid penalties....  I agree with Ski that the defense made a good effort to keep us in the game, but the number of missed tackles was unbelievable.  Great job by UMHB to control the line of scrimmage and get the win.   And yet even with all our problems, we were in it right to the end.  Hopefully we'll have a chance to meet again in the playoffs and win when it really counts.  Looking forward to next week to see how we bounce back.

BIG congrats to Buffalo State for knocking off UWW!!  Sounds like there were several great games today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 15, 2012, 09:26:30 PM
When I think of the Wesley offense early in the season, I think of the term, "two degrees of separation."  They are so close to getting it right, but they aren't there yet.  It becomes like a Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde situation.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 16, 2012, 06:57:46 PM
ski, concern has to be the o line.  they have not established the run in any game.  i hope that sot runs the ball a little more than he has eventhough that is not his thing.  the scrambles that he has done thus far have been usefull.  the defense will give up yards, they always do, but i believe they will not give up many points.  great individual efforts were the difference yesterday, but there are not that many players in d3 who could make those plays.

I am wondering how the UWW loss to an unranked 1 loss team compares to Wesley's loss to the 4th ranked team.  It will be interesting to see how much prior stock plays into the voting this week.  does UWW only drop to 3 or further, maybe even behind Wesley.  Seems like things may change up a little.  Any way you slice it it is a bad loss for UWW.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 16, 2012, 08:16:35 PM
Can't be too much of an effect on Wesley. I'm thankful I'm not doing the national fan poll, but in the South Region the sum total on my ballot was a flip-flop of Wesley and UMHB. There is still no one else near those two in the South as far as I'm concerned, though B-SU and Trinity (? good grief what a loss) will get a chance to try...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 16, 2012, 08:22:12 PM
jk, areed.  glad I am only talking about it and not voting on it.  I guess in the end the more up in the air the polls are the better for D3.  seems like there may be a chance that someone else gets to Salem this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 16, 2012, 08:28:01 PM
It's actually kind of fun to vote, though the South Region is a bit cut and dry. I wish there was more chatter about it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 16, 2012, 08:32:49 PM
jk, unfortunatly most posters only follow the team they cheer for.  there are not that many who look around the entire region or nation.  i wish there was more chatter too, but it is tough to have a conversation with yourself.  if you start answering the may start to think you are crazy.  Wesley has some tough games coming up and I will be interested in seeing how the o line improves.  that looks like the only real weakness on this team, but it is a hugh one if not improved on.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 16, 2012, 08:38:08 PM
This is my first year voting. I've been fairly familiar with everyone but the ASC, so I've been a bit adrift at who to put 2nd/3rd from that conference when looking at my voting. But it's been kind of neat to worry about the whole region and how everyone looks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 17, 2012, 02:23:54 AM
No shame in losing to UMHB. You guys said it all. IMO, this year's offensive success will depend on the play of the o-line. If they are struggling then the team will struggle. Like vs. UMHB. Last year we had the luxury of McSweeny who could dictate the outcome of the game more independently. They will need to win out though, and the playoffs start now.

Wesley traditionally doesnt play their best football til later in the season. I look for the young o-line to continue to improve and expect a much different team to be prepared for the playoffs (and UMHB). If you recall in the 2010 season, the team was literally one call away from losing the game against Del Val in week 3, then averaged 47.33 pts per game the rest of the way out. In 2011, the team lost to Kean, then put it together against D1-FCS Charleston Southern, Walsh, Salisbury, shocking Linfield, and holding off UMHB.

My point is: Wesley's best is yet to come. But it needs to be here soon, the softer part of the schedule is at the back, and there are two strong challenges against LC, and BSC coming up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 17, 2012, 09:58:45 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 17, 2012, 02:23:54 AM
Wesley traditionally doesnt play their best football til later in the season. I look for the young o-line to continue to improve and expect a much different team to be prepared for the playoffs (and UMHB). If you recall in the 2010 season, the team was literally one call away from losing the game against Del Val in week 3, then averaged 47.33 pts per game the rest of the way out. In 2011, the team lost to Kean, then put it together against D1-FCS Charleston Southern, Walsh, Salisbury, shocking Linfield, and holding off UMHB.

Agreed, Waterboy.  Question for everyone - noticed that Sottilare has the annoying habit of spinning the ball around after taking the snap.  I don't remember him doing that two years ago, but I also can't remember where I put my keys this morning.....  Is this new, or has he always done it?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on September 17, 2012, 12:06:57 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 17, 2012, 02:23:54 AM
No shame in losing to UMHB. You guys said it all. IMO, this year's offensive success will depend on the play of the o-line. If they are struggling then the team will struggle. Like vs. UMHB. Last year we had the luxury of McSweeny who could dictate the outcome of the game more independently. They will need to win out though, and the playoffs start now.

Wesley traditionally doesnt play their best football til later in the season. I look for the young o-line to continue to improve and expect a much different team to be prepared for the playoffs  (and UMHB). If you recall in the 2010 season, the team was literally one call away from losing the game against Del Val in week 3, then averaged 47.33 pts per game the rest of the way out. In 2011, the team lost to Kean, then put it together against D1-FCS Charleston Southern, Walsh, Salisbury, shocking Linfield, and holding off UMHB.

My point is: Wesley's best is yet to come. But it needs to be here soon, the softer part of the schedule is at the back, and there are two strong challenges against LC, and BSC coming up.

UMHB is also young in many areas: O-line, Secondary, and WR. The key for them is Bailey. As he goes, we go. From what I gather, the video feed was not great, the Wesley D-Line put pressure on Bailey, but it seems as though he showed a lot more confidence and patience in the box. That will be big for us as we continue the season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on September 17, 2012, 12:33:38 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on September 17, 2012, 09:58:45 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 17, 2012, 02:23:54 AM
Wesley traditionally doesnt play their best football til later in the season. I look for the young o-line to continue to improve and expect a much different team to be prepared for the playoffs (and UMHB). If you recall in the 2010 season, the team was literally one call away from losing the game against Del Val in week 3, then averaged 47.33 pts per game the rest of the way out. In 2011, the team lost to Kean, then put it together against D1-FCS Charleston Southern, Walsh, Salisbury, shocking Linfield, and holding off UMHB.

Agreed, Waterboy.  Question for everyone - noticed that Sottilare has the annoying habit of spinning the ball around after taking the snap.  I don't remember him doing that two years ago, but I also can't remember where I put my keys this morning.....  Is this new, or has he always done it?

I saw it two years ago from the box. It is troubling when there is immediate pressure as you can tell he doesn't get a good handle on the ball at that point to throw it away. At this point, it is a unconscious act and not coachable. Would like to see the pocket move more against high level opponents like MHB or MU or UWW. I'm sure the coaches will address the teams deficiencies week to week. I would think Special Teams might be a topic for discussion this week.

In all, I look to a newly determined Wolverine squad run the table starting this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 17, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
Bailey's role for UMHB this year seems to be eerily similar to McSweeny's was with Wesley last year. They both have the ability to make things happen with their feet, and make up in areas where the team may lack. With Sottilare this year, as he is more of a passing QB, he does not have that luxury, thus the young o-line that we have seems to be a weak point.

DE Wesley Fan, I believe he has always done that, but Im going off of pictures I have seen of him during the 2010 season. I dont recall noticing it much live though so im not totally sure.  :)

dedragon, I hope youre right. Hopefully that loss lit a fire underneath them  8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on September 17, 2012, 01:04:08 PM

I saw it two years ago from the box. It is troubling when there is immediate pressure as you can tell he doesn't get a good handle on the ball at that point to throw it away. At this point, it is a unconscious act and not coachable. Would like to see the pocket move more against high level opponents like MHB or MU or UWW. I'm sure the coaches will address the teams deficiencies week to week. I would think Special Teams might be a topic for discussion this week.

In all, I look to a newly determined Wolverine squad run the table starting this weekend.[/quote]

Going to Pineville will not be an easy game. They always get up for UMHB, and knowing they will have a chance to prove something in preparation for what looks like a surprisingly strong ASC in light of McMurry being out and HSU being down, LC will be up for it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 19, 2012, 01:15:05 AM
What's the scoop on LC? The Wolverines will be hungry to get back onto the field after last week. Hopefully they have a healthy week of practice (radio mentioned that the flu was going around on the team or something). Not sure what kind of effect that had on their preparation for UMHB. But regardless, its playoff time for dubnation. If Wesley get through this part of their schedule unscathed, then IMO, they will have fixed themselves to be a very dangerous football team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 19, 2012, 02:10:34 PM
it may be just me, but I dont get the calling of Wesley the dubnation.  I have seen it on shirts and such.  There is UDubDub and we know who they are.  Why would Wesley need to start being called dub anything?  It seems silly to me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 19, 2012, 08:49:40 PM
Lol I know its something the players throw around. I wondered the same thing at first, but then i just went along with it  ;)  8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on September 19, 2012, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 19, 2012, 02:10:34 PM
it may be just me, but I dont get the calling of Wesley the dubnation.  I have seen it on shirts and such.  There is UDubDub and we know who they are.  Why would Wesley need to start being called dub anything?  It seems silly to me.

It may be that some teams are trying to mimic some sportscasters from ESPN 'Sportsnation'. The more use of nation after some abbreviation or letter that represents their respective school, it kind of catches on.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 19, 2012, 09:59:34 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 19, 2012, 02:10:34 PM
it may be just me, but I dont get the calling of Wesley the dubnation.  I have seen it on shirts and such.  There is UDubDub and we know who they are.  Why would Wesley need to start being called dub anything?  It seems silly to me.

I'm with you on this one.  Only thing I want to be called soon is "national champion" :)  First step to that is a strong showing this Saturday and coming out with a win.  We're heading down for the game (always wanted to see New Orleans and this is a great excuse) -  I want to be celebrating with a Hurricane afterwards, not crying in it.....

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on September 19, 2012, 10:17:53 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 19, 2012, 01:15:05 AM
What's the scoop on LC? The Wolverines will be hungry to get back onto the field after last week. Hopefully they have a healthy week of practice (radio mentioned that the flu was going around on the team or something). Not sure what kind of effect that had on their preparation for UMHB. But regardless, its playoff time for dubnation. If Wesley get through this part of their schedule unscathed, then IMO, they will have fixed themselves to be a very dangerous football team.

LC is always tough at home. They are well coached and will be playing very inspired ball knowing they have a chance to keep pace with UMHB. Spread O with a quality QB. Fast on D like UMHB and strong on the run. Should be a great game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 20, 2012, 11:10:15 PM
Let's hope that the flu that limited practices last week is gone and Wesley gets some of the injured back..Those games the last few years between Wesley and UMHB took there toll. .This week will be a big one in the south some great match ups
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on September 20, 2012, 11:43:30 PM
My weekly conversation with Mike Drass.

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=45733

Also, got some great news:  Ben Knapp is scheduled to make his return to Dover High School tomorrow for the first time since last October!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 21, 2012, 05:53:37 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on September 20, 2012, 11:43:30 PM
My weekly conversation with Mike Drass.

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=45733

Also, got some great news:  Ben Knapp is scheduled to make his return to Dover High School tomorrow for the first time since last October!

Awesome news!  I can only imagine what the last year has been like for the Knapp family. 

I really appreciate WDEL's coverage of Wesley, especially the on-line interviews.  Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 22, 2012, 11:48:03 AM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on September 21, 2012, 05:53:37 PM
Quote from: wdelsean on September 20, 2012, 11:43:30 PM
My weekly conversation with Mike Drass.

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=45733

Also, got some great news:  Ben Knapp is scheduled to make his return to Dover High School tomorrow for the first time since last October!

Awesome news!  I can only imagine what the last year has been like for the Knapp family. 

I really appreciate WDEL's coverage of Wesley, especially the on-line interviews.  Keep up the good work!

OUTFRIGGINSTANDING!!!!  That is great news indeed!  What that kid has been through.....

Good luck today Wolverines!  I am out of town, so I will only know what the result of the game is when I get back.  Give them hell!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2012, 07:44:08 PM
Let's go Wesley!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 22, 2012, 08:15:22 PM
can wesley stop trying to get cute with this jumbo package and trash it.  1 td and 2 miscues in important situations.  chance to take a 7 pt lead on the road, got to get it done.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2012, 09:12:31 PM
The bad passes are killing us

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 22, 2012, 09:20:51 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 22, 2012, 08:15:22 PM
can wesley stop trying to get cute with this jumbo package and trash it.  1 td and 2 miscues in important situations.  chance to take a 7 pt lead on the road, got to get it done.
Agreed!  Put the QB under center and make him get dirty!

D-line has been getting killed, and don't get why the corners have been playing so far off.  Frustrated with both the level of play AND the play calling so far.  Sure hope the second half is better.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 22, 2012, 09:24:15 PM
DEWesley, did not see the first pick on the feed screen froze, was it a bad pass or nice int.  agree the d line is getting pushed around and d backs giving too much cushion.  need to come out and score the first drive, then d has to step up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 22, 2012, 10:03:05 PM
A sad day indeed for the offense.  It's been a while since Wesley hasn't made the playoffs and this season is it.  Having a punishing schedule for a weak offensive squad did the wolverines in this year.  wow.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 22, 2012, 10:04:42 PM
ski, unless i missed something the game is not over yet.  as bad as they are playing they are a td and 2 away from a tie.  they are certainly capable of doing that.  doesnt look good but it is not over.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 22, 2012, 10:06:02 PM
Unless they swap out QB's, I can't see anything working for them at this point.  The Wesley offense is scoring all of the points for LC.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on September 22, 2012, 10:12:05 PM
Wesley needs a big play.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 22, 2012, 10:25:18 PM
Quote from: SUADC on September 22, 2012, 10:12:05 PM
Wesley needs a big play.

And they did!  Wow!  Ok, I was a bit premature.  Nice pass Justin!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 22, 2012, 10:31:32 PM
Jahad is WELL below 100% with the knee brace on. 

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 22, 2012, 10:40:42 PM
why is he in the game at this point?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 22, 2012, 10:41:41 PM
I dunno.  Why not stick with Morris is beyond me.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 22, 2012, 10:44:14 PM
LOL!!!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 22, 2012, 10:46:46 PM
1:07 left and it is in the Wesley offense's hands....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2012, 10:49:07 PM
here we go
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2012, 10:52:20 PM
If i didn;t hurt so much I'd be jumping up and down!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 22, 2012, 10:56:01 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2012, 10:52:20 PM
If i didn;t hurt so much I'd be jumping up and down!!!

Video froze on me....Well!?!?!?!?~!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2012, 10:56:13 PM
Still alive .. I need my DR note for that game in 2 weeks


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 22, 2012, 10:58:55 PM
It came back up.... YAY!!!!!!!!!!

Well, heart won it out this time.  I really didn't think Wesley had the momentum to win, but they really pulled it out.  The defense really did what it needed to win the game and hats off to the offense for keeping their composure out there.  Well done Wolverines!!  WOW!!!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2012, 11:00:28 PM
Finally in a motel room outside Charlotte after a long, but great day. Huntingdon gets their first road win over a ranked team. The Hawks defense played a terrific game keeping pressure on the QB and Anthony White getting two picks and almost a third. They have really cleaned up a lot of the mistakes they were making the first two games. The offense looked sharp early, just didn't take advantage of some scoring opportunities, then after sputtering for the middle part of the game got the one last drive finished with an awesome catch in the end zone by Tyler Robinson to retake the lead at the end.
Homecoming next week against Ave Maria.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 22, 2012, 11:03:42 PM
Congratulations Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 22, 2012, 11:05:37 PM
This is going to be a really good football team.  Pretty sloppy right now but they have the makings of something really special.  Very few teams would be able to pull this type of game out on the road against a top notch program.  LA Col is a pretty nice squad.  I will be interested to see how their O line matches up with MHB's d line, that will be a battle.  A week off to heal and get things in order and then come out and beat Bir South and the rest of the teams scheduled and off to the playoffs.  GREAT WIN FOR THE WOLVERINES.

thanks Ralph.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2012, 11:05:47 PM
Wesley could have a few more games like this coming up.. Huntingdon and Birm. So. will have their say!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 22, 2012, 11:35:56 PM
Wow!!  If we played the whole game like we did the 4th quarter it would have been great.  AGain they came up big when their backs were against the wall.  WesleyDad-if I remember right the first pick was just a bad decision on Justin's part.  He has got to step it up and play smarter.  We said the same thing as Ski in the 3rd (that he had to go) but credit to him for putting it together.  This team has tons of work to do.  LC was a good team though - wish we had their running game.  Nice folks down there but hate those stupid one sided stadiums.  Headed back to New Orleans - will have a drink to celebrate for all of us!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2012, 11:44:33 PM
  I don't know why but Justin just doesn't seem to have confidence.  Could be that we don't have that big old TE to open up the field. He looks like he is keying on one receiver even on his look offs. Has also been some pretty good teams coming at him week after week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on September 23, 2012, 12:09:00 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 22, 2012, 11:00:28 PM
Finally in a motel room outside Charlotte after a long, but great day. Huntingdon gets their first road win over a ranked team. The Hawks defense played a terrific game keeping pressure on the QB and Anthony White getting two picks and almost a third. They have really cleaned up a lot of the mistakes they were making the first two games. The offense looked sharp early, just didn't take advantage of some scoring opportunities, then after sputtering for the middle part of the game got the one last drive finished with an awesome catch in the end zone by Tyler Robinson to retake the lead at the end.
Homecoming next week against Ave Maria.

Go Hawks!
Congratulations Hawks88. It sounds as though it was an exciting game that could have gone either way, with both defenses playing well against the potent offenses. Best of luck the rest of the season, and if everything breaks right maybe we'll see you again in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on September 23, 2012, 12:37:35 AM
Hawks
i watched the game on the computer and worked on the motorcycle.
we looked better than we did against BSC

i looked for u at LaGrange last week, were u there ?
we are planning to drive over to the Ava Maria game
stay safe and keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 23, 2012, 02:19:35 AM
Dan Tryon comes up BIG when he needs to. I was pulling my hair out all game. Louisiana College did NOT beat Wesley, Wesley beats themselves (this game is much like the Del Val game in 2010), and when they can overcome this many mistakes in a game and STILL win, it shows how much talent is on the field. They just need time to figure it out, and when they do, look out!

Sottilare just needs to relax. He's trying to do to much when not that much is needed. He's good, but he just needs to realize that. He did come up huge though on the last drive.

The video feed was not the best and I could not stand the LC announcers. If you are going to call a game, make sure you get the frigging names right! They also annoyed me with their homerisms. Like trying to say Wesley's TD to Koudossou was bobbled when ther ref was right in front of the play. They cut out the field goal at the end of the game too!  >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 23, 2012, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 23, 2012, 12:37:35 AM
Hawks
i watched the game on the computer and worked on the motorcycle.
we looked better than we did against BSC

i looked for u at LaGrange last week, were u there ?
we are planning to drive over to the Ava Maria game
stay safe and keep the faith
Hey DGP,
We were at LaGrange. I don't know how I missed you. You are right, the defense has looked much, much better these last two games than they did the first two. We will be looking for you next week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 23, 2012, 08:31:46 AM
in my excitment about the wesley win, forgot to congratulate my huntingdon friends.  nice win yesterday against a quality team.  good luck in the upcoming weeks.  dg, will you be making the stagg again this year?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 23, 2012, 08:35:55 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on September 23, 2012, 12:09:00 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 22, 2012, 11:00:28 PM
Finally in a motel room outside Charlotte after a long, but great day. Huntingdon gets their first road win over a ranked team. The Hawks defense played a terrific game keeping pressure on the QB and Anthony White getting two picks and almost a third. They have really cleaned up a lot of the mistakes they were making the first two games. The offense looked sharp early, just didn't take advantage of some scoring opportunities, then after sputtering for the middle part of the game got the one last drive finished with an awesome catch in the end zone by Tyler Robinson to retake the lead at the end.
Homecoming next week against Ave Maria.

Go Hawks!
Congratulations Hawks88. It sounds as though it was an exciting game that could have gone either way, with both defenses playing well against the potent offenses. Best of luck the rest of the season, and if everything breaks right maybe we'll see you again in the playoffs.
Thanks HSC,
You have a beautiful campus and awesome facilities. We really enjoyed the trip.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 23, 2012, 08:36:16 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 23, 2012, 02:19:35 AM
Dan Tryon comes up BIG when he needs to. I was pulling my hair out all game. Louisiana College did NOT beat Wesley, Wesley beats themselves (this game is much like the Del Val game in 2010), and when they can overcome this many mistakes in a game and STILL win, it shows how much talent is on the field. They just need time to figure it out, and when they do, look out!

Sottilare just needs to relax. He's trying to do to much when not that much is needed. He's good, but he just needs to realize that. He did come up huge though on the last drive.

The video feed was not the best and I could not stand the LC announcers. If you are going to call a game, make sure you get the frigging names right! They also annoyed me with their homerisms. Like trying to say Wesley's TD to Koudossou was bobbled when ther ref was right in front of the play. They cut out the field goal at the end of the game too!  >:(

I agree that the consistent mispronounciation of just about every Wesley name was irritating.  Oh well, Matt Berrill and Justin Solitaire did what they had to to win the game.  ;)

I can't completely blame Sottilaire for the mistakes.  The receivers aren't getting the seperation that they were last year and the running game with Jahad hurt is one dimensional with Robinson.  Sure if the hole is there, he can really accelerate, but one has to be forced, then no dice.  This is exactly what happened when Pennewell was hurt and AJax was left alone in the backfield.  Wesley lost a grizzely game against UMHB with that issue after Pennewell was hurt at Muhlenburg. 

One thing is sure, Wesley does not throw in the towel in their games.  What happened with Linfield last year was no fluke.

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 23, 2012, 09:20:09 AM
 i dont have issues with the mispronounciations.  they are not familiar with the names.  now if they were on top of their game one of them would have taken the time to talk to someone from wesley to get the proper pronounciations.  they are the LC announcers, they are supposed to be homers.  almost every video cast i have watched that has announcers is the same way.  this is d3 football not a national broadcast.

ski, i would take a one dimensional runing game if it is working which it was with robinson last night.  jahad was too slow getting to the holes, robinson was not.  could not believe that jahad was the back at the end, it worked out but it likely would have worked with robinson and who knows, the screen may have gone for more yards.  the play that annoyed me was the one that resulted in the safety.  what was that?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on September 23, 2012, 12:56:33 PM
Congrats to Wesley in their win last night. I watch the whole game and have to credit the defense for staying in the game and playing tough the whole game, especially when their back was against the wall. Also, I want to congratulate LA College because they played a well balance game and showed they can hang with some of the big boys.

As for the game and Wesley, I believe that when they were able to run the ball, it allowed for the big plays that I always expect Wesley to come up with. If Wesley can continue to be balance or find a balance with the pass game they should be able to dominate the rest of the season. However, I believe that if they continue trying to play texas shoot'em, that might hurt them in the long run. Again, congrats and good luck next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on September 23, 2012, 09:43:07 PM
We only got a brief chance to talk to their announcers, they were setting up the video feed (which is 5-10x more complex than radio, especially with switchers and such) they came to us just as we were going on-air for the pre-game show.  I don't want to speak for them, but I'm assuming the fact the game was close led to a crush of people logging onto the feed near the end.  Internet video can be finicky when in high-traffic situations.

As for our recap... we've got this week's D3 Report, our radio version of the FG call, and my interview with Dan Tryon after the game.

http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=45791

And in a side note to anyone who travels:  Don't do a double connector.  It's just not healthy.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 23, 2012, 09:59:43 PM
wdelsean, listened to you guys and watched the video which was fun in itself.  sometimes the video was ahead of you and sometimes you were ahead of the video.  made it neat to see what happened after you called the play.  totally missed the td before the half since i was not listening to you guys, video froze and then it was LC up.  great job by you guys since i dont usually get to listen to you at the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 24, 2012, 02:22:22 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 23, 2012, 09:20:09 AM
ski, i would take a one dimensional runing game if it is working which it was with robinson last night.  jahad was too slow getting to the holes, robinson was not.  could not believe that jahad was the back at the end, it worked out but it likely would have worked with robinson and who knows, the screen may have gone for more yards.  the play that annoyed me was the one that resulted in the safety.  what was that?

You are entirely correct sir!  This is what happens when I go back home to Wisconsin to attend a wedding in my wife's family.  I had to carefully slip out of the reception to catch the game on my PC in the hotel room without seeing the first half!  I noted that Robinson had over 140 yards rushing in the game afterwards.  That 3rd quarter really skewed the game for me, so sorry for being off on my evaluation..... My wife did forgive me when she found out what I did.  Whew!

-Ski 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 25, 2012, 12:36:53 AM
Finally back to my computer....My overall feeling continues to be one of frustration - feeling like this team could be very good if they could just stop the stupid stuff, but not really convinced they have "it".  Even though it's not really his thing, I wish Sottilaire had the confidence to run a little more when the pass just isn't there.  The few times he has, he's done okay with it.  Would like to see them roll him out a little more often, especially when the line is struggling.  As for the running game, I would have expected that with all the players we have to choose from we could find another body or two to run the ball.  We see every year what happens if you rely too heavily on one person at a position.  It was really nice to see Tryon redeem himself after the struggles of the previous week.  And I will admit that I was generally pleased with the play of the secondary, even though I was doubting them earlier, and am still a bit confused as to why we played so far off the receivers early in the game.  LC did a nice job of taking advantage of our weaknesses.  Looking forward to seeing what happens after a week off to rest up and fix some of this nonsense.

The name pronounciations were a bit of comic relief.  Heck - even our own Dr. Leone has been known to muff a few on occassion (my personal favorite was always "Shane McAndrew").   Honestly, everybody down there was very nice (even after we won!) and pleasant to talk with (hope the players experienced the same treatment).  There were even a few questionable officiating moments when the folks around us had to agree they seemed to get a home field advantage.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 25, 2012, 02:18:50 PM
DEwesley, i agree with you on the running part by Sot.  Think he needs to take off once in a while just to show that he will do it.  Also agree about the roll outs, the o line is struggling and could use some help.  Robinson should be the back until Jahad is healthy.  After watching Kean this week, MHB is really good to score 34 on them.  Wesley had a chance to win not playing their best game against MHB.  There has been some room to question some play calling and I agree about laying off receivers when they havent shown the ability to run by the d backs.  The week of rest will do them well.  Get healthy and work on the things that are not physical mistakes.  Glad to hear that you had a good time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 25, 2012, 05:37:12 PM
  As close to vest as injuries are kept for the players safety I am not so sure that players who were and weren't in the game at certain times may have something to do with it. Robinson had a good game and I think the left side of the O line which has the experience did a nice job opening some wholes for the yardage .  I myself am enjoying watching so be it on video so far the growing of this team with this schedule.!!! When you take into account the teams and the travel already put in this season how can anyone not be happy with where this team is!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 26, 2012, 03:20:22 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 25, 2012, 05:37:12 PM
  As close to vest as injuries are kept for the players safety I am not so sure that players who were and weren't in the game at certain times may have something to do with it. Robinson had a good game and I think the left side of the O line which has the experience did a nice job opening some wholes for the yardage .  I myself am enjoying watching so be it on video so far the growing of this team with this schedule.!!! When you take into account the teams and the travel already put in this season how can anyone not be happy with where this team is!

I'll agree that I may be guilty of having too high of expectations for them early in the year, especially considering they had to get used to a (sort of) new QB and it is tougher to iron out the early kinks when you're playing really good teams instead of some of the traditional cupcakes.   Wesley should certainly be proud of the tradition that's been established, and of this team for their efforts so far. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 28, 2012, 01:35:24 PM
This week sux!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on September 29, 2012, 08:21:59 PM
Kind of a yawner in Montgomery today for homecoming, 42-21 over Ave Maria with AMU getting two scores late after we were substituting freely. Our offense never seemed to really be in sync but the defense was outstanding getting two scores in the first half to help stretch the lead.  The defensive line pretty much dominated all day and the defense as a whole continues to improve after the early season issues.
HUGE game at Millsaps next week. Need to have our 'A' game going for that one.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 01, 2012, 07:28:56 PM
another big game this week for wesley.  bir south looks like they will be a nice test for wesley.  hopefully the week off allowed the team to focus on the areas that needed to be improved.  i would still like to see a consistant running game to allow sot to have some time to make better reads.  i think he should also run it some just to make the other team worry about it.  he does not have to be mcsweeney, but some is better than none.  the d is bending but not breaking and i figure they will tighten that up as the year progresses.  i still believe this is a team that has the potential to be something special especially since i think that UMHB may be the best team in the country and we know how close wesley came to winning that game and they did not play anything close to their best that day.  keep the winning going and see what happens.

i will not be making the trip to dover, i am heading on my annual trip to bridgewater to hang with my stone station friends and see their game against hampden-sydney.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 01, 2012, 10:15:31 PM
Wesleydad-Hero..........eat some BBQ and fried turkey for me
be safe on the road
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on October 01, 2012, 10:50:51 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 01, 2012, 07:28:56 PM
another big game this week for wesley.  bir south looks like they will be a nice test for wesley.  hopefully the week off allowed the team to focus on the areas that needed to be improved.  i would still like to see a consistant running game to allow sot to have some time to make better reads.  i think he should also run it some just to make the other team worry about it.  he does not have to be mcsweeney, but some is better than none.  the d is bending but not breaking and i figure they will tighten that up as the year progresses.  i still believe this is a team that has the potential to be something special especially since i think that UMHB may be the best team in the country and we know how close wesley came to winning that game and they did not play anything close to their best that day.  keep the winning going and see what happens.

i will not be making the trip to dover, i am heading on my annual trip to bridgewater to hang with my stone station friends and see their game against hampden-sydney.

Please say hello to our Stone Station friends for me! 
:D ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 02, 2012, 04:21:30 PM
You know Birmingham Southern will be coming into town with their game faces on.  They are 5-0 and moving up the rankings. Wesley will need to really put this game together in order to win it.  This game along with the Huntingdon match later are the pivotal games of the season without a doubt.  Along with Wesleydad, I am also hoping that Wesley starts getting the cogs meshed on both sides of the ball.  I also agree that Sottilaire needs to realize that he does not have to force the ball everytime and can gain some good yards on foot.  That has been his achilles heel this year. 

I am confident that the time is about nigh for Wesley's annual transition from it's larval shaky start into a more confident, cleaner executing stage of the season.  It starts getting fun about this point on into the playoffs.  If there is one thing you can set your clock to, it is the approach of the second half of every Wesley Wolverine season!!

Now if they can execute against Birmingham Southern, we will know for sure!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 02, 2012, 06:16:13 PM
dg pugh and roocru, will tell the fine folk of stone station you said hi.  hopefully i will see you both at the stagg bowl.  i think that one of our teams has a good chance to be there this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 04, 2012, 08:08:42 PM
dont think i will get on D3 tomorrow and hitting the road at 5 am to head to Bridgewater Sat morning kills saturday posts.  This is a big weekend for Wesley.  They play another strong team and I am looking for them to make a statement as to how good they are.  If I am right I think they will win this game by 15+.  The travel will be tough on Bir South just as it was on Wesley 2 weeks ago.  The week off will hopefully heal what was ailing Wesley and they come out playing the way they can.  The defense will continue to be stingy and hold Bir South under 20.  Barring turnovers I think that Wesley gets in the 30's.  Enjoy the game guys and Go Wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: repete on October 04, 2012, 09:34:31 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on January 02, 2012, 01:16:44 PM
Check out Shane McSweeny's highlight tape. Wow! Will have to admit that its the first time I've seen a QB highlight tape that features his blocking too lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJ7D9CCfHs

Enjoy!
What a  first clip to start a QB vid!

So glad I got to see this kid play live last year after only catching him on webcasts earlier.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 04, 2012, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 04, 2012, 08:08:42 PM
dont think i will get on D3 tomorrow and hitting the road at 5 am to head to Bridgewater Sat morning kills saturday posts.  This is a big weekend for Wesley.  They play another strong team and I am looking for them to make a statement as to how good they are.  If I am right I think they will win this game by 15+.  The travel will be tough on Bir South just as it was on Wesley 2 weeks ago.  The week off will hopefully heal what was ailing Wesley and they come out playing the way they can.  The defense will continue to be stingy and hold Bir South under 20.  Barring turnovers I think that Wesley gets in the 30's.  Enjoy the game guys and Go Wolverines.

Enjoy your trip, and hope you're right about us getting things straightened around for Saturday.  I'd rather enjoy a nice, comfortable lead instead of another nail biter.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 05, 2012, 11:50:09 PM
Boy, I am really excited about the game tomorrow.  Yet another DIII Game of the Week for Wesley (IMHO).  It will be up to the boys in blue to bring it home!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 06, 2012, 12:34:46 AM
Nice article in Friday's News Journal about Jordan Westcott.  The young man's always been tough on the field, and I've always known him to be an all around good guy.  Really glad to see him back in football (and more importantly, school) and having success.

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20121005/SPORTS08/310050053/-Bumpy-road-doesn-t-slow-Wescott

The defense will need a strong outing on Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on October 06, 2012, 12:38:21 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 05, 2012, 11:50:09 PM
Boy, I am really excited about the game tomorrow.  Yet another DIII Game of the Week for Wesley (IMHO).  It will be up to the boys in blue to bring it home!

-Ski

Should be another great game. With all the adversity and close games Wesley has had, IF they can weather the storm and make it through, they will have learned a lot about themselves and would not be far off from their dominant selves, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on October 06, 2012, 01:32:46 PM
At end of 1st Q - BSC  10 Wesley 0
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on October 06, 2012, 01:48:33 PM
At 7:13 in 2nd Q - tied 10 all
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: roocru on October 06, 2012, 02:11:36 PM
Halftime Wesley leads 16 - 10
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 06, 2012, 02:14:18 PM
Wesley up 16-10 at the half.  Need to stop missing these extra points!  Barile looks a little off his game today - routes not as sharp as usual and doesn't look the normal 110% effort - but others are stepping up so far.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 06, 2012, 03:56:59 PM
Still not Wesley's best game, BUT much better than the team that we saw in the first 4 games. Defense coming up big with stops, and Sottilare played very well. Jahad with 103 yards, definitely a difference maker with him being healthy. So a good win over a good team. Recievers sounded like they did a heck of a job blocking after the catch was made. It seems like the Birmingham-Southern defense was waiting on Wesley to go deep more, which caused the underneath stuff to come up big. 

Recievers dropped a few, and the botched Putman snap were a few of the mistakes. But overall very pleased with this win today. This gives Wesley more experience for the playoffs, and when they finally put their best games on the field, look out! Lynchburg next week will give Wesley time to iron out its fundamentals a little more.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 06, 2012, 04:10:36 PM
Cummings made a huge difference in this one - great blocking and seemed to give the offense some much needed confidence.  Nice to see a more balanced attack and the running game improving.  Still things to correct, but definitely not nearly as frustrating as the first few.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 06, 2012, 04:31:49 PM
Cudos to Wesley for really turning the game around for the win.  They did a great job keeping penalties to a minimum (only 4 for 32 yards) and won the turnover battle with 3 interceptions.  The big thing was the defense making the adjustments needed to deal with the BS effective option.  I was really impressed with Birmingham South.  They had strength on both sides of the ball and made Wesley play at the top of their game to win it.

I was really pleased to see Sottilaire running with the ball as that helped give him an option when targets were covered.  A nice change indeed.  Askia Jahad's knee is looking like it is getting much better now as he is able to dig in and drive which resulted in a 5.5 yard average.  As mentioned above, the offensive balance is really good this year.  Again, I haven't need a running game like this since Pennewell.

Wesley is definitely starting its annual "scheduled" mid-season improvement program where both squads are syncing and starting to play up to their true potential.  This season has been a real hoot.  Wesley now has played 4 ranked teams (including LC's post-game upgrade) this season.  When was the last time a single DIII team has done that in the regular season??  Anybody know?  With Huntingdon coming up, that should end up as 5!

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 06, 2012, 05:40:49 PM
Hawks 88
did you get to Jackson ?
I had to work today and was unable to watch/listen.
the stat looks like the Hawks showed up played like we seem to against Millsaps (we are 4-1 against them including 2-0 against Duboise coached teams)

I drew a short straw next weekend, but am still going to try to make the Wesley game.
i hope we can just show up and give them a good game for all 4 quarters. It looks like Wesley is hitting on all 4 cylinders.

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 06, 2012, 05:53:41 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on October 06, 2012, 04:10:36 PM
Cummings made a huge difference in this one - great blocking and seemed to give the offense some much needed confidence.  Nice to see a more balanced attack and the running game improving.  Still things to correct, but definitely not nearly as frustrating as the first few.

There is no doubt that he is having fun this year.  He's paid his dues, that is for sure.  Add the fact that he is a monster......

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 06, 2012, 06:24:05 PM
Wow, Huntingdon has a 3 week break in the middle of the season??  Their next game is against Wesley on the 27th!!  Intriguing.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 06, 2012, 06:31:48 PM
Yeah. 2 bye weeks. Hard to fill out those schedules as an independent as I'm sure Wesley knows. Bummer that both byes come back to back, but it does give them lots of time to prepare for Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on October 06, 2012, 07:09:33 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 06, 2012, 06:31:48 PM
Yeah. 2 bye weeks. Hard to fill out those schedules as an independent as I'm sure Wesley knows. Bummer that both byes come back to back, but it does give them lots of time to prepare for Wesley.

Maybe to much time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 06, 2012, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 06, 2012, 06:31:48 PM
Yeah. 2 bye weeks. Hard to fill out those schedules as an independent as I'm sure Wesley knows. Bummer that both byes come back to back, but it does give them lots of time to prepare for Wesley.

To be honest, I wouldn't want that much of a break.  Remember when the Big 10 always had issues going up against other conferences with a championship game before the bowls?  I think Wesley will have a distinct advantage going into the game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 06, 2012, 09:40:27 PM
"I think Wesley will have a distinct advantage going into the game."

2 wks is too long to be off, and independents have it tough scheduling (as yall know), i believe the whole Huntingdon Family is looking forward to the USA South.

as far as that 'advantage going into the game'.......... i have watched games for all 10 yrs of our program, and the teams that Wesley have brought to Montgomery are the best D-3 or NAIA teams i have ever seen, with the exception of the ones i have seen in the Stagg
(and the Wesly teams were equal to the Stagg teams)

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 06, 2012, 10:45:16 PM
Two weeks is an awfully long break, but don't forget that Wesely will be traveling to AL just a week after having a game in CA.  Back to back trips like that have to be exhausting.  In any case, it should be another good game for both teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 06, 2012, 11:29:01 PM
just got back from my trip to bridgewater.  looking at the stats it seems as though wesley had a balanced attack which is what we have been calling for from the start.  seems like Sot ran the ball a little from other posts, sorry did not line item the stats, to see how much, but in my opinion any running will help.  looks to be a nice win for the team as bir south gave them a good battle.  3 - 1 against ranked teams at this point is rather impressive and can only help should they win out.  if they are able to run the ball and the o line improves wesley will be a tough out for anyone including UMHB.  figure to have to beat them to win the south, but maybe wesley gets shipped elsewhere and maybe we meet them in the semis instead.  I know I am looking ahead but if all things play out Wesley and UMHB are 2 of the top 4 teams in the country in my opinion.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 07, 2012, 01:30:45 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 06, 2012, 05:40:49 PM
Hawks 88
did you get to Jackson ?
I had to work today and was unable to watch/listen.
the stat looks like the Hawks showed up played like we seem to against Millsaps (we are 4-1 against them including 2-0 against Duboise coached teams)

I drew a short straw next weekend, but am still going to try to make the Wesley game.
i hope we can just show up and give them a good game for all 4 quarters. It looks like Wesley is hitting on all 4 cylinders.

keep the faith
DGP,
Just got back to Lovely Village a few minutes ago(though it doesn't sound like it was too lovely for the Tigers today). A long but happy drive home. The Hawks played awesome today, gave up a lot of yards but made plays when needed. Offense was hitting on all cylinders. Wish we could bottle that up and save the momentum over two open weeks. Hopefully we can find a way to stay sharp over that time. Hope to see you at the Wesley game.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 07, 2012, 10:08:00 AM
just took a little time and looked at the play by play and drive summaries to see how the game played out.  The first thing that stands out to me is the length of the wesley drives.  3 nice long ones for scores.  that bodes well come playoff time.  It also seems that wesley had to do that since the Bir South punter seemed to pin them deep for most of the game.  36 mins of TOP is excellent.  The running game did enough to allow Sot to throw the ball well and likely also allowed him more time.  The one long TD pass hurts, but against good teams you are likely to give up one or 2 big plays each game, limit what they do the rest of the game and you get the win.  Holding Bir South to only 17 shows that the D continues to improve and will make it tough on anyone to score more than 20.  If Wesley does not turn the ball over, only 1 yesterday, they will be tough to beat.  Offensively they will score and it will take a good D to keep them under 20.  Looks like the week off really helped as we hoped it would.  Keep improving and this could be a really fun run again.  Still believe that they are one of the top 4 or 5 teams in the country and yesterday's result did nothing to change that feeling.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 07, 2012, 06:18:35 PM
Wesleydad - couldn't agree more with your observations.  The drive at the end of the first half was a thing of beauty as well - run with a sense of urgency but not rushed, good job getting the plays in and marched down the field.   Not only was an appearance of a running game long overdue, but it was successful because Jahad, Howe and Robinson were all used.  Also did a nice job of play calling to get them involved in the passing game.    Overall the o-line did a much better job, but it was very wise to have Cummings in so often to act as an additional blocker and I think that gave Justin more confidence too.  Receivers dropped a few very catchable balls, but also made great efforts in catching some others.  Defensively, it looks like more players are healthy which allowed for a series to series rotation at a number of positions and that certainly paid off by keeping them fresh in the 4th quarter.  Now we just need to stay healthy, focused, and not take these next couple games for granted.

Up until this game I really wasn't confident we could put all the pieces together for a long run into the playoffs (hopeful, but not confident).  Now I completely agree with you that we are a top contender and I like our chances going up against anybody.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 07, 2012, 08:08:12 PM
I don't usually complain about rankings, but I find it funny that Wesley isn't ahead of UWW considering the fact that they have faced 4 ranked teams so far this year and lost to then 4th ranked UMHB.  Legacy is a hard thing, I guess.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on October 07, 2012, 08:33:41 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 07, 2012, 08:08:12 PM
I don't usually complain about rankings, but I find it funny that Wesley isn't ahead of UWW considering the fact that they have faced 4 ranked teams so far this year and lost to then 4th ranked UMHB.  Legacy is a hard thing, I guess.

-Ski

I can agree with that, you can also say something on the lines when comparing MUC and UMHB, the schedule kind of speak for itself. However, the rankings are only opinions and we have the rest of the season and playoffs. IMHO, the south should have the overall #1 seed, looking at how things are thus far.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 07, 2012, 09:11:12 PM
Ski

That's the same group that Puts ST Thomas above Wesley every year in the final poll. Don't let it bother you. And if you look at the pts UWW and Wesely both lost some pts. this weeek
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 08, 2012, 02:49:44 AM
Interesting 2 a.m. stat: Wesley's opponents are a combined 18-3. Minus the Wesley game, 4 of them would be still undefeated (UMHB, Salibury, BSC, LC), and 1 of them is still undefeated with the Wesley game included (UMHB).

UMHB's opponents are a combined 15-5, and Mount Union's are a combined 5-15.

Just food for thought ;) Good night all!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2012, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 07, 2012, 09:11:12 PM
Ski

That's the same group that Puts ST Thomas above Wesley every year in the final poll. Don't let it bother you. And if you look at the pts UWW and Wesely both lost some pts. this weeek

Is that our poll you're referring to? What year would that be? Because it isn't any of these.

http://www.d3football.com/top25/2011/final
http://www.d3football.com/top25/2010/final
http://www.d3football.com/top25/2009/final
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on October 08, 2012, 09:36:08 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2012, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 07, 2012, 09:11:12 PM
Ski

That's the same group that Puts ST Thomas above Wesley every year in the final poll. Don't let it bother you. And if you look at the pts UWW and Wesely both lost some pts. this weeek

Is that our poll you're referring to? What year would that be? Because it isn't any of these.

http://www.d3football.com/top25/2011/final
http://www.d3football.com/top25/2010/final
http://www.d3football.com/top25/2009/final

Pat,

I think the statement was pertaining to individuals who felt that UST should be ranked above Wesley at the end of each season. Still, I am not sure.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 08, 2012, 11:57:14 PM
Pat, I believe its the select group of voters that puts St. Thomas above Wesley, not the poll as a whole.

Otherwise, I will be headed to Dover this weekend. See you all there I'm sure!  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 09, 2012, 12:22:14 AM
We'll see you there!  If VUL brings their offensive line in from last year, you will see the largest ever offensive line Wesley will ever face!  They were huge (if not athletic).  No lineman was under 6'6" 300lbs!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 09, 2012, 12:36:00 AM
   Pat
  I am sorry :-\.
   I don't know why I was thinking that St. Thomas was ahead of Wesley in 2010 and 2009 I must have been thinking of North Central leap frogging Wesley in 2010.. No more pain pills before typing for me... :o

   Ski and waterboy

  I should be at the game Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 10, 2012, 10:20:53 PM
Has anyone heard from beenhit2hard????At Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 10, 2012, 11:05:41 PM
saw him but di not talk to him at the salisbury game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 10, 2012, 11:56:43 PM
 glad to here that.. expected to see him last week..

Uncle Frank missed the game too.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 11, 2012, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 08, 2012, 02:49:44 AM
Interesting 2 a.m. stat: Wesley's opponents are a combined 18-3. Minus the Wesley game, 4 of them would be still undefeated (UMHB, Salibury, BSC, LC), and 1 of them is still undefeated with the Wesley game included (UMHB).

UMHB's opponents are a combined 15-5, and Mount Union's are a combined 5-15.

Just food for thought ;) Good night all!

If Wesley can pull off the victory over Huntingdon, it could be a DIII history making season having faced 4 ranked opponents (excluding LC's subsequent ranking after the game With Wesley) in the regular season and winning 3 of those contests.  That would be a stat to check in the history books.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 11, 2012, 11:30:29 AM
I think we have to give credit to Wesley and Huntingdon for their schedules this year. They both scheduled hard and have so far lived up to the schedules. To a lesser degree, UMHB and B-SC, Salisbury, SJF (attempted to schedule OOC hard, it just didn't work out with the PAC teams) also deserve credit for their OOC schedules. Its nice to see these teams trying and succeeding at scheduling these games. Lots of respect for having faith in how good you are and knowing what you need to do to test yourself and continue to improve.

I'll be somewhat sad when Huntingdon joins the USAC. I know it makes their life easier, but I just don't see the competition coming from that conference that they are going to need to continue to grow and improve. Hopefully they will keep challenging themselves OOC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 11, 2012, 12:50:18 PM
respectfully.....not just this year, every year
Both Wesley and Huntingdon have to schedule who will play (and inside a budget)

as far as USA south, i spect all of us are looking forward to it. I do not believe it will harm our growth as a program. If it provides a clear route to get to the playoffs, then based on our recruiting areas and demographic, i spect it will only serve to enhance the program growth.

i have been watching the football program grow from the beginning, these 10 yrs have been fun to watch.

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 11, 2012, 03:44:49 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 11, 2012, 12:50:18 PM
respectfully.....not just this year, every year
Both Wesley and Huntingdon have to schedule who will play (and inside a budget)

as far as USA south, i spect all of us are looking forward to it. I do not believe it will harm our growth as a program. If it provides a clear route to get to the playoffs, then based on our recruiting areas and demographic, i spect it will only serve to enhance the program growth.

i have been watching the football program grow from the beginning, these 10 yrs have been fun to watch.

keep the faith

Huntingdon has done a stellar job in that 10 years, too!  Very impressive considering all of those programs that have been around a lot longer with less to show for the effort.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 11, 2012, 08:24:23 PM
thanks
Coach Turk and the entire Huntingdon family have jumped in, but this is a football 'crazy' state. It's a neat place. But..... we got to play Wesley every year, and they are some kinda good.
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 13, 2012, 09:11:19 AM
heading to wesley for the game today.  dont know what to expect from lynchburg since i could not find any info on their website about the team.  hoping to see a clean, well played game with a balanced offense and stingy defense.  i will pay attention to the o line since that is the spot that i think needs to keep improving if wesley is going to challange come playoff time, granted that they win out and get in.  going to be a chilly game with i am sure the nice gusty breeze blowing across the field.  ski, waterboy, and pa wesley, hopefully see you at the game.  homecoming so there will be a good crowd.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 13, 2012, 04:41:39 PM
Well, it was ugly, but a win is a win.  VUL brought their huge players and showed up to play a game.  They were quick (and big) and physical, that is for sure.  Wesley could not do squat on the ground with the VUL defensive line pushing everyone back.  Penalties hurt both sides (over 100 yards for both teams!), but if VUL didn't take silly penalties (including 3 roughing the passer calls), the game would have been quite different.  Anyways, I'm happy that Wesley won, but it was a game better forgotten than anything else.  As I mentioned before, Wesley will never play a bigger team as they did today (and last year!). 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 13, 2012, 05:56:10 PM
ski, i am going to have to disagree with you somewhat.  i agree there were times that the game was ugly, but in the end i was impressed with how wesley handled the difference in size on both sides of the ball.  they will not play a bigger o line yet were able to shut down the run for most of 3 quarters, kudos to the defense for that.  they will not likely play a defense made up of the type of linebackers and d backs they saw today, very fast and covered plenty of space, yet they were able to move the ball at times.  there were mistakes and the penalties were annoying, several called that did not look like penalties especially on the punt return for the td.  all in all i think that this game should give wesley a good feeling moving on as they handled the step up in division and made adjustments on offense to find what worked.  the o line had issues again and the rushing game was shut down.  sot still made some ill advised throws but also made some real nice passes when he needed to.  i feel like this was a good win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 13, 2012, 06:13:45 PM
I'm leaning towards Ski on this one - this was a pretty ugly and frustrating game.  I think the number of penalties on both sides can be attributed more to the style of the officials than the actual number of real penalties, but Wesley just wasn't on our game today.  Sot made a number of very bad decisions - not just the interceptions, but some of his choices of where to throw on incomplete passes as well.  The look of frustration and lack of confidence on his face coming to the sideline in the 3rd quarter said it all.  That said, he also threw some really nice passes and the O-line certainly wasn't helping his cause.    Found it interesting that VUL had so many very, very large players but the fiestiest ones were the little guys!  On the plus side I thought special teams was much improved today, and was happy to have no missed extra points.  Beautiful day for a game and it was nice to see Visconti added to the HOF - he was the QB when we first started coming to Wesley games, and I loved watching him.   A win is a win, and off to the next one.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 13, 2012, 11:44:49 PM
UVL had 7 or 8 DI Transfers from some good  big schools.  I think you have to give the other team some credit. Maybe Wesley kids thought they had a breather game after all the tough teams they played but UVL was Bigger and Faster than any team I have seen in my 18 yrs I have been going to games including Butler.I also think that Wesley wore the big boys down at the end. Kudos to coaches fro letting Dan Tryon attempt 52 yrd FG


Good to see Ben Knapp at the game today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 14, 2012, 12:14:33 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 13, 2012, 11:44:49 PM
UVL had 7 or 8 DI Transfers from some good  big schools.  I think you have to give the other team some credit. Maybe Wesley kids thought they had a breather game after all the tough teams they played but UVL was Bigger and Faster than any team I have seen in my 18 yrs I have been going to games including Butler.I also think that Wesley wore the big boys down at the end. Kudos to coaches fro letting Dan Tryon attempt 52 yrd FG


Good to see Ben Knapp at the game today.

Good points all.  I was shocked at the difference between last year's and this year's play.  VUL had the same sized players, but they were far more athletic this year.  I didn't know that those players were D1 transfers.  Makes complete sense though.  I mentioned during the game that the coach is is Williard Bailey, formerly of Norfolk State.  This is only the second year for the program, and they have made some great steps.  I know he wants to ultimately get the team into the NCAA DII ranks, from what I understand from reading up on him last year before traveling to Lynchburg with the team. 

Either way, they created one hell of a game for Wesley and that will ultimately keep the team focused!  You know Coach Drass wasn't expecting a tough one this week.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 14, 2012, 12:59:31 PM
VUL does have that take-on-all-comers mentality (ie: $$ games for bank acct) with N.C. A&T, Grambling, Ohio Dominican
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 14, 2012, 04:14:21 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 14, 2012, 12:59:31 PM
VUL does have that take-on-all-comers mentality (ie: $$ games for bank acct) with N.C. A&T, Grambling, Ohio Dominican

With a student count of only about 400 or so, I'm sure they need every dollar they can get.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 15, 2012, 02:45:16 AM
Looks like Menlo has a video feed for the Wesley game.  Hope it works when time comes!

http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/menlo.portal#

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 19, 2012, 01:02:56 PM
I have to say, back-to-back open weeks is brutal. Seems like it has been forever since we played last and still seems like the next game will never get here. Hopefully the team has found a way to stay sharp and not lose the momentum we were building before the break. That's going to be tough to do. I'm just ready to see some football. Planning get off work early this afternoon if nothing comes up and go see my nephew's high school game and see if that can tide me over until next week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on October 19, 2012, 01:09:48 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 15, 2012, 02:45:16 AM
Looks like Menlo has a video feed for the Wesley game.  Hope it works when time comes!

http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/menlo.portal#

-Ski

If so, definitely tuning in...another East Coast vs. West Coast matchup. We saw what happen in last years 'East Coast vs. West Coast' Matchup.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 19, 2012, 10:29:59 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 19, 2012, 01:02:56 PM
I have to say, back-to-back open weeks is brutal. Seems like it has been forever since we played last and still seems like the next game will never get here. Hopefully the team has found a way to stay sharp and not lose the momentum we were building before the break. That's going to be tough to do. I'm just ready to see some football. Planning get off work early this afternoon if nothing comes up and go see my nephew's high school game and see if that can tide me over until next week.

Go Hawks!

I feel for you brother!  You are going through hell right now.  I could never imagine a two-bye week gap in the middle of the season.  It is almost like losing your dog and waiting for him to show up again!  Hang in there!  ;)

-Ski
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 19, 2012, 11:22:42 PM
Looks like the weather should be lovely at Menlo - lets hope for a good game!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 20, 2012, 07:54:59 AM
on the road again, heading off to salisbury to see the game with Alfred U.  checked out Menlo and they are 4 - 2, losing to Linfield and Webber.  This game will be a good measuring stick for wesley and linfield.  of course the travel and such may keep the game a little closer.  I think Menlo has trouble scoring, only 9 vs Linfield and 13 vs Webber.  Looking for the offense to continue to show improvement.  Nice thing is that I will get to listen to the game on the drive back from Salisbury.  Go Wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 20, 2012, 01:39:13 PM
Ski, do you need to pay for the video feed?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 20, 2012, 03:08:31 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 20, 2012, 01:39:13 PM
Ski, do you need to pay for the video feed?

Yeah, it looks like it.  Dang it!  That sux.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 20, 2012, 03:58:35 PM
Welll....it was going smooth until that interception.

Nice to see Bundy get in the endzone. Hes one of the fastest guys in D3. He just needs some confidence. Im sure that gave him some and it would be awesome to see him get into the offense more.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 20, 2012, 04:18:37 PM
Glad to see the effort to work on our running game today.  Think score would be worse if we weren't.  Sot even threw a pretty decent block earlier!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 20, 2012, 05:52:35 PM
glad to see wesley get the big plays today.  the turnovers are a concern as usual, but the d is really starting to handle their business.  all in all a good win, linfield beat menlo 30 - 9 at home so this looks good to me when comparing it to that result.  safe travels home to get ready for a preplayoff playoff game at huntingdon next week.  some carnage in the top 25 today, will be interesting to see where uww ends up after their loss.  may be on the outside looking in come playoff time with 2 losses.  hard to believe, but wesley will be in the same position if they lose next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 20, 2012, 06:40:18 PM
Not that it's a big deal but was glad to see so many Wesley fans at the game - it was a beautiful day for a game.  Liked that we played well in the 1st half for a change, but seems we forgot there was still a second half to play.  Sot has to clean up the stupid TO's and D-line showed some problems today but overall not too shabby a day.  Hoping for good things next week to solidify that playoff spot.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 21, 2012, 08:00:59 PM
With two games left in the regular season, I'm still very uncertain about this 2012 Wesley team. There are tools for greatness there, but I'm not so certain that it has come together yet. Maybe its the extraordinarily tough schedule this season compared to the past. This team has not played a complete football game all year though IMO. There always seem to be flashes of greatness, then there will be the 4 turnovers in a game, or the inability to get the ball in the endzone. There is still inconsistency in the running game, which is necessary to give Sottilare time in the pocket.

The recievers are the best weapons on offense, and Sottilare is still figuring it out. Hopefully he will for this week against Huntingdon. This team needs to start clicking soon, and i feel that once they do, they will be tough for anyone to stop. The playoffs are full of uncertainties now. Time for Wesley to take advantage
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 21, 2012, 10:31:25 PM
Kodousso (sp) didn't play in the game so that was one less target for Sottilaire.  The Menlo game was pretty good if you take away Sottilaire's singular gaffs.  The two picks and the fumble all resulted in scores, if I recall correctly.  You take those away and you have a solid performance.  If Sottilaire tightens up his game, then Wesley has it on both sides of the ball.  He needs to continue running with the ball instead of forcing throws.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 22, 2012, 08:13:00 AM
Ski, good point. I wasnt listening too intently on the game during the second half, so it mightve seemed worse than it was.  ;D I agree that Sottilare needs to use his legs more. Itll get him out of trouble. It seems the biggest playmakers for the team this year are the recievers. Koudossou, Barile, and now Bundy, Wiggs, and Gerlitz have all proved that they can make some things happen with the ball when its in their hands. I would venture to say that Wesley has the best recieving corps in D3. On to Huntingdon though, we will see how their back to back bye weeks have treated them.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 22, 2012, 09:56:39 AM
Waterboy - I think it was as bad as you originally thought!  In the first half we built a lead and seemed to focus on trying out more of the running game which I totally understand as it needs work.  I really think we'd have scored 1-2 more times that half had we kept throwing the ball.  But the second half was a mess.  Some of that was due to Menlo fighting back and making adjustments, but it mostly seemed to be a lack of focus by Wesley.  Defense continues to bail out Sot after TO's.  It was frustrating but kind of  understandable early on but I really thought there would have been more improvement there by now. What I do find encouraging is that they most always come through under pressure - long third downs, 2 minute drills, big defensive stops, etc.  Looking forward to Saturday!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 22, 2012, 10:03:59 AM
Any of you guys making the trip to Montgomery this week?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 22, 2012, 10:54:17 AM
Hawks

i will try, i have to work, but will sneak off. I hate being tethered by a cell phone, and it is colic weather.

also,there is a gun show in Montgomery, so 2 reasons to ride down.

i hope we can give them a good game, and stay in it till the end
hope yall r well
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 22, 2012, 03:07:14 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 22, 2012, 10:03:59 AM
Any of you guys making the trip to Montgomery this week?

I wish I could!  This game is the 2012 Pool B Championship Game!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 22, 2012, 05:21:14 PM
hawks, cant make this one.  have to limit my travel to the car and driving to ala is a little too far even for a nut like me.  i will be heading up to kean for the njac game this weekend.  after looking at the scores from the past couple of years my question is can the hawks stop wesley from scoring.  they have had trouble doing so and gave up 40+ to bir south.  also looking at the game with hampden sydney i would figure that they will not score in the 20's unless wesley turns the ball over.  what will the hawks have to do to keep this game closer than the last couple of meetings?  the travel for wesley to calli and back then to ala has to hurt them a bit, how much you never know with young people.  the 2 weeks off should give them a chance to get reading for wesley but it could also leave the players a little sluggish from nothing but practice which is never good for any team this late in the season.

dg, enjoy the game if you go.  will i be seeing you at the stagg this year?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 22, 2012, 07:33:32 PM
Wesley Dad= brother blood
i am gonna try to get to Salem

i pray we will see yall

where else can you walk in rough weather, see quality folk, eat great BBQ, brownies and fried turkey, see a good football game and attend a gun show all in the same weekend

so we gonna try to get to the Stagg
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 10:08:19 AM
Wesleydad, our defense the last four games has been vastly improved from the first two. Improved enough to slow down Wesley? We'll have to wait and see. If we can get/keep pressure on the QB I think we can create some turnovers and make it a game. Definitely worried about how the two week layoff will affect both sides of the ball, especially the offense which had built some good momentum before the break.
Last year against Wesley we made some mistakes early and were never really in the game. In 2010 we stayed close for the first half before things got away from us in the third quarter. We will obviously have to play 60 minutes of solid football and limit the mistakes that have let us get too far behind in out previous match-ups with Wesley so that we can keep it close and at least have a chance at the end.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 23, 2012, 02:40:16 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 10:08:19 AM
Wesleydad, our defense the last four games has been vastly improved from the first two. Improved enough to slow down Wesley? We'll have to wait and see. If we can get/keep pressure on the QB I think we can create some turnovers and make it a game. Definitely worried about how the two week layoff will affect both sides of the ball, especially the offense which had built some good momentum before the break.
Last year against Wesley we made some mistakes early and were never really in the game. In 2010 we stayed close for the first half before things got away from us in the third quarter. We will obviously have to play 60 minutes of solid football and limit the mistakes that have let us get too far behind in out previous match-ups with Wesley so that we can keep it close and at least have a chance at the end.

I expect Huntingdon to really put up a tough game against Wesley.  Everything is on the line and the Hawks will surely bring everything they got onto the field.  Wesley's offense has been suseptible to stalling at times, and the first half is the best shot Huntingdon has to get ahead.  That said, the Wesley defense has done a stellar job this year bailing out the offense when it mattered.  Hardy played this last week after getting hurt against VUL, and that means a good rotation of linemen.   All bets are off if Sottilaire starts mixing the run in with the passing.  If that is done, then the Hawks will be hard pressed to force the errors needed for Wesley to lose the game. 

Either which way, the game is definitely the game of the week, IMHO.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 05:44:23 PM
This from www.alabamawx.com ...

WEEKEND WIND AND CHILL: Strong north winds will develop across Alabama over the weekend due to the tight pressure gradient from Sandy to the east, and the Arctic high to the northwest. I expect winds both Saturday and Sunday to average 15 to 25 mph, with gusts over 30 mph at times. And, we will struggle to get out of the 50s both Saturday Sunday as the very cold air is pulled southward on the west side of Sandy's circulation. Bottom line is that the weekend will be dry, but cold and blustery.

Well, that's just GREAT!  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 23, 2012, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 05:44:23 PM
This from www.alabamawx.com ...

WEEKEND WIND AND CHILL: Strong north winds will develop across Alabama over the weekend due to the tight pressure gradient from Sandy to the east, and the Arctic high to the northwest. I expect winds both Saturday and Sunday to average 15 to 25 mph, with gusts over 30 mph at times. And, we will struggle to get out of the 50s both Saturday Sunday as the very cold air is pulled southward on the west side of Sandy's circulation. Bottom line is that the weekend will be dry, but cold and blustery.

Well, that's just GREAT!  >:( >:(

Brr - we're heading down for the game so I guess I better bring a coat!  But on the bright side at least it won't be raining to boot.  My other half is trying to convince me we should go to the Alabama game in Tuscaloosa after this one, but maybe this will help change his mind.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 23, 2012, 10:02:21 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 10:08:19 AM
Wesleydad, our defense the last four games has been vastly improved from the first two. Improved enough to slow down Wesley? We'll have to wait and see. If we can get/keep pressure on the QB I think we can create some turnovers and make it a game. Definitely worried about how the two week layoff will affect both sides of the ball, especially the offense which had built some good momentum before the break.
Last year against Wesley we made some mistakes early and were never really in the game. In 2010 we stayed close for the first half before things got away from us in the third quarter. We will obviously have to play 60 minutes of solid football and limit the mistakes that have let us get too far behind in out previous match-ups with Wesley so that we can keep it close and at least have a chance at the end.

Hawks, thanks for the insight.  I think the 2 weeks off will hurt more than help, but may be offset by wesley's crazy travel the last 2 weeks.  wesley knows what is at stake with this game, a win and likely at least 1 home game in the playoffs, a loss and likely on the outside looking in.  if they keep the hawks under 20 they will win the game.  enjoy the game, but the weather sounds like it will be a little uncomfortable for the fans.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2012, 10:20:36 PM
Hawks88

  There is a 25 mph breeze in Dover every game!!! Though I can't say the cooler temps will help Wesley sonce they have played more games in the hotter weather stadiums most of the year..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 23, 2012, 10:27:12 PM
cold down here is about 55 degrees.

Montgomery is sure not Dover, i spect yall will fit the weather a bunch better than us

i hope the Hawks can step up their game and hang with yall

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on October 23, 2012, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 05:44:23 PM
This from www.alabamawx.com ...

WEEKEND WIND AND CHILL: Strong north winds will develop across Alabama over the weekend due to the tight pressure gradient from Sandy to the east, and the Arctic high to the northwest. I expect winds both Saturday and Sunday to average 15 to 25 mph, with gusts over 30 mph at times. And, we will struggle to get out of the 50s both Saturday Sunday as the very cold air is pulled southward on the west side of Sandy's circulation. Bottom line is that the weekend will be dry, but cold and blustery.

Well, that's just GREAT!  >:( >:(

Brr - we're heading down for the game so I guess I better bring a coat!  But on the bright side at least it won't be raining to boot.  My other half is trying to convince me we should go to the Alabama game in Tuscaloosa after this one, but maybe this will help change his mind.
Hopefully I can keep the grill lit in that wind. If you get to campus early look me up in the tailgating area. We're usually next to the big tree nearest where the visiting team buses park. Look for a green canopy(unless the wind takes care of that) and a dark blue Ford Ranger truck.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 10:41:37 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2012, 10:20:36 PM
Hawks88

  There is a 25 mph breeze in Dover every game!!! Though I can't say the cooler temps will help Wesley sonce they have played more games in the hotter weather stadiums most of the year..
Yeah, PA, that's what I was getting at. Game is in Montgomery but looks like it's going to be Dover weather. Either way, can't wait til Saturday.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 10:46:48 PM
So, word on the ASC board is that Huntingdon is hosting UMHB week one next season. That's pretty awesome to have the Cru coming to town. I had already heard that we are going to Miss. College and that because of scheduling conflicts we won't be playing BSC next year. Hope that one gets figured out soon as I would hate to lose that rivalry game for long.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 23, 2012, 11:34:04 PM
i figured we'd be playing mostly USA South teams ?

The CRU....  so we keeping Wesley ?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 24, 2012, 11:58:29 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on October 23, 2012, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 05:44:23 PM
This from www.alabamawx.com ...

WEEKEND WIND AND CHILL: Strong north winds will develop across Alabama over the weekend due to the tight pressure gradient from Sandy to the east, and the Arctic high to the northwest. I expect winds both Saturday and Sunday to average 15 to 25 mph, with gusts over 30 mph at times. And, we will struggle to get out of the 50s both Saturday Sunday as the very cold air is pulled southward on the west side of Sandy's circulation. Bottom line is that the weekend will be dry, but cold and blustery.

Well, that's just GREAT!  >:( >:(

Brr - we're heading down for the game so I guess I better bring a coat!  But on the bright side at least it won't be raining to boot.  My other half is trying to convince me we should go to the Alabama game in Tuscaloosa after this one, but maybe this will help change his mind.
Hopefully I can keep the grill lit in that wind. If you get to campus early look me up in the tailgating area. We're usually next to the big tree nearest where the visiting team buses park. Look for a green canopy(unless the wind takes care of that) and a dark blue Ford Ranger truck.

Thanks!  If we get in soon enough we'll try to find you - will all depend on how cooperative the airline is Saturday morning :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 24, 2012, 04:46:05 PM
I agree that Wesley will be bringing Dover's usual weather with them this time around.   Actually, the weather was pretty mild the last time Wesley was in town, but nowhere this cold.  Fumbles anyone?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 24, 2012, 04:48:57 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 23, 2012, 11:34:04 PM
i figured we'd be playing mostly USA South teams ?

The CRU....  so we keeping Wesley ?
DGP
No, Wesley wasn't included in what I was told. Hope to see you Sat.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 25, 2012, 04:43:17 PM
For those Huntingdon fans, I may try and run down there for the game, although the weather is making me think twice. Is there good parking if I was to drive down in a 26' motorhome?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 25, 2012, 06:55:26 PM
just past Sanford Stadium (as u pass it on the right) the next right (just beside Cloverdale Campus- adjoining the stadium 'complex'  ;)

there is a lot just down that road where some campers set up.

if u show up, look for Hawks and I (he and his wife grill near the stadium...just ask)

i am a fat bald guy, i set in the endzone under the scoreboard  :D

hope u make it
keep the faith

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 25, 2012, 07:53:52 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 25, 2012, 04:43:17 PM
For those Huntingdon fans, I may try and run down there for the game, although the weather is making me think twice. Is there good parking if I was to drive down in a 26' motorhome?
If you take the Fairview Ave exit off of I65 southbound, take a left to cross under the interstate and Fairview takes you right to HC. When you get a to 5 way intersection with Woodley Rd veering to the right, stay straight on Fairview to the stop sign just ahead. To the left you will see the front lawn of the Cloverdale campus where everyone tailgates. You should be able to get the motorhome up in there. My wife and I are usually at the other end of the lawn closer to the stadium. Look for a green canopy and a dark blue ford ranger. Hope to see you there.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 25, 2012, 08:07:39 PM
 jknezek
what Hawks said , ditto
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 25, 2012, 09:00:30 PM
Well my wife has no interest but she'll keep the kids if I'm going to make the drive. So I won't need to bring the motorhome for just me. I'll keep an eye on the weather tomorrow, but likely I'll be there. It'll be nice to have been to W&L at Sewanee, Trinity at BSC, and Wesley at Huntingdon this year. Not keeping up with WesleyDad's schedule, but I'll feel pretty respectable...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 25, 2012, 09:41:31 PM
jk, anyone who has no dog in the fight and is still willing to make a drive more than just around the corner always gets respect from wesleydad.  i am actually taking the weekend off, only second one this year.  local microbrew is having an event and if there is one thing that wesleydad likes as much as d3 football it is good beer and they make some of the best.  enjoy the game and i will be looking forward to your view of wesley.  i think they can be real good and go pretty far especially if they clean up the offensive miscues that keep games closer than they should be.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 25, 2012, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 25, 2012, 09:41:31 PM
jk, anyone who has no dog in the fight and is still willing to make a drive more than just around the corner always gets respect from wesleydad.  i am actually taking the weekend off, only second one this year.  local microbrew is having an event and if there is one thing that wesleydad likes as much as d3 football it is good beer and they make some of the best.  enjoy the game and i will be looking forward to your view of wesley.  i think they can be real good and go pretty far especially if they clean up the offensive miscues that keep games closer than they should be.

Wow, that must be some really good beer!  Please tell me you'll at least sneak in a listen to WDEL or you may go into withdraw :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 26, 2012, 11:07:18 AM
Safe travels to the Wesley fans heading to Huntingdon
and the Builders who left yesterday for Valley, Ala. and Point University.


I get the honor of up-and-back on Saturday to do stats for our game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 26, 2012, 01:16:39 PM
Quote from: nnasid on October 26, 2012, 11:07:18 AM
Safe travels to the Wesley fans heading to Huntingdon
and the Builders who left yesterday for Valley, Ala. and Point University.


I get the honor of up-and-back on Saturday to do stats for our game

How are the Builders doing this year?  Did they just join the USCAA?  Safe travels!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 26, 2012, 01:18:05 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on October 25, 2012, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 25, 2012, 09:41:31 PM
jk, anyone who has no dog in the fight and is still willing to make a drive more than just around the corner always gets respect from wesleydad.  i am actually taking the weekend off, only second one this year.  local microbrew is having an event and if there is one thing that wesleydad likes as much as d3 football it is good beer and they make some of the best.  enjoy the game and i will be looking forward to your view of wesley.  i think they can be real good and go pretty far especially if they clean up the offensive miscues that keep games closer than they should be.

Wow, that must be some really good beer!  Please tell me you'll at least sneak in a listen to WDEL or you may go into withdraw :)

I hope the live video will be up on Huntingdon's stream.  I know with the Frankenstein storm barrelling down directly towards Dover, we will be hunkered down by then.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 26, 2012, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on October 23, 2012, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 23, 2012, 05:44:23 PM
This from www.alabamawx.com ...

WEEKEND WIND AND CHILL: Strong north winds will develop across Alabama over the weekend due to the tight pressure gradient from Sandy to the east, and the Arctic high to the northwest. I expect winds both Saturday and Sunday to average 15 to 25 mph, with gusts over 30 mph at times. And, we will struggle to get out of the 50s both Saturday Sunday as the very cold air is pulled southward on the west side of Sandy's circulation. Bottom line is that the weekend will be dry, but cold and blustery.

Well, that's just GREAT!  >:( >:(

Brr - we're heading down for the game so I guess I better bring a coat!  But on the bright side at least it won't be raining to boot.  My other half is trying to convince me we should go to the Alabama game in Tuscaloosa after this one, but maybe this will help change his mind.
Hopefully I can keep the grill lit in that wind. If you get to campus early look me up in the tailgating area. We're usually next to the big tree nearest where the visiting team buses park. Look for a green canopy(unless the wind takes care of that) and a dark blue Ford Ranger truck.

Be nice to our guys down there.  I have a feeling they will be staying with you in Montgomery a day or two more than expected.

-Ski
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Post by: jknezek on October 26, 2012, 02:46:00 PM
I was thinking that. If you are planning to fly home, you might be planning to delay a day or two. I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to drive from Birmingham to Montgomery for this one. I feel like I'd like to, but like everyone else in the world, there is so much else I'm supposed to be doing!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 27, 2012, 09:03:34 AM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on October 25, 2012, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 25, 2012, 09:41:31 PM
jk, anyone who has no dog in the fight and is still willing to make a drive more than just around the corner always gets respect from wesleydad.  i am actually taking the weekend off, only second one this year.  local microbrew is having an event and if there is one thing that wesleydad likes as much as d3 football it is good beer and they make some of the best.  enjoy the game and i will be looking forward to your view of wesley.  i think they can be real good and go pretty far especially if they clean up the offensive miscues that keep games closer than they should be.

Wow, that must be some really good beer!  Please tell me you'll at least sneak in a listen to WDEL or you may go into withdraw :)

DE wesley, yes it is very good brew.  i plan on taking a laptop to the pub and watching the game, hopefully the wifi and live stream work, while having fun. so there will be no withdraw here.
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Post by: wesleydad on October 27, 2012, 09:10:59 AM
thoughts on todays game.  looking at 4 games, huntingdon vs. bsc, wesley vs. bsc, huntingdon vs hampden sydney, and hampden sydney vs bridgewater, which i saw in person i believe wesley will win this game.  wesley's defense will likely shut down the hawks if hampden sydney held them to 24.  if the weather plays into the game and the hawks have to run then they are in trouble, hampden held them to less than 100 yds.  having seen hampden their offense is not as good as wesley's so i believe wesley will be able to score.  again if the weather limits the passing game then the game will be closer than i think it should be.  wesley again has to limit the mistakes, if they do i think they win by 2 td's.  safe travels to all going to the game and safe return for the team, looks like they may be able to get back before the mess really his on monday/tuesday.  dg, hawks, and jk, if you make the game, i will be looking forward to your thoughts after the game.
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Post by: jknezek on October 27, 2012, 11:24:45 AM
I'm leaving here in about 20 minutes. Helped my wife out of the house and she told me to get out of her hair for the rest of the day. So hopefully I'll meet up with DG and some Wesley folks about a 1/2 hour before game time. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 02:26:51 PM
Wow, Wesley's offense is horrible in the first.  The traveling is taking it's toll for sure.  This is the worst quarter of the year.

-Ski
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Post by: wesleydad on October 27, 2012, 02:36:17 PM
play calling inside the 10 was horrible.  they look slow, but should not give up many so they should still win.
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Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 02:36:40 PM
Wesley is hurting!  That two bye-week break for the Hawks is working out well for them.  They are all over the ball while Wesley is flat.   This one is going to take something special from the Wolverines.....

-Ski
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Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 02:41:43 PM
14 nil.  I knew we were going to be in trouble when Wesley didn't score inside the 10...... :-\  The offense has to kick it in.

-Ski
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 27, 2012, 02:55:16 PM
HAVE TO HIT TE OPEN RECIEVERS
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Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 03:14:06 PM
Well, it easily could have been 21-3 at the half.  Wesley is just downright tired.  I hope they can get the energy to get back into the game.  The O-line is just getting overpowered and the D looks drawn......This is the first time I have seen this.

-Ski
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Post by: wesleydad on October 27, 2012, 03:16:29 PM
oline real bad, abandoned the run but cant block.  d looks confused with all the players running on and off the field.  no excuses, make the plays and come back and win the game.
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Post by: SUADC on October 27, 2012, 03:42:12 PM
That return was nice
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Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 03:43:00 PM
Quote from: SUADC on October 27, 2012, 03:42:12 PM
That return was nice

It helps!  Leave it up to Sean Hopkins to do it.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 03:54:18 PM
What the....???   >:(  Dismal offensive performance.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 04:19:36 PM
Wesley's staying in it.  21-17 into the 4th.  They gotta quit throwing wasted long balls. 

-Ski
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Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 04:26:51 PM
Thank you defense. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 04:32:15 PM
24-21 Wesley. The defense does it again and sets up the offense.

-Ski
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Post by: wesleydad on October 27, 2012, 05:05:00 PM
the road warriors do it again.  come back to win against a very good huntingdon team.  will comment later, enjoying the beer and the win.  agree ski, long balls wasted many downs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 05:06:38 PM
Wesley pulls it off once again.  A big cudos to the defense.  They won this game.

Congrads to the Hawks to putting up one tough contest!  I know it is little consolation, but I was impressed by the preparation and motivation the Hawks showed today.  It was easily the best game I have ever seen them play against Wesley in all of games I have seen them play (all of them).   I hope you guys can slip in on a C bid, and who knows?

Now, Wesley needs some rest.  A home game next week against NNA should get them some needed "local" time.

-Ski

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Post by: thewaterboy on October 27, 2012, 05:33:42 PM
Defense was clutch today! Wesley came out not ready mentally to play, Huntingdon was, and it showed for most of the game. Wesley had the big play on their side in this one though, although I do think they went deep a little too much. Sottilare had the recievers, he just couldnt hit them, but he executed when he had to and kept from throwing an interception. This Wesley team likes to save it to the fourth quarter to finally get going. I was really hoping for a more complete effort in this one. Come playoff time, I cant help but be a little concerned. At some point you have to wonder: How good is this team? I dont think we know yet. I hope the answer is great, but sometimes I feel they are a bit below where they should be.

I think a trip home against next week vs. NNA will get them rested and hopefully primed for the playoffs. I would like to see a complete 4 quarters of football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 06:20:17 PM
Now it begs the question if Wesley's 4 (with a 5th subsequently) ranked team opposition schedule a DIII record.....

-Ski
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Post by: wesleydad on October 27, 2012, 06:32:00 PM
the game did not look good.  it seemed that there was no chance they would win it, but they did.  there is something about this team that is impressive.  the 16th ranked team in the country had 2 weeks to prepare for wesley and wesley had what was likely only 3 days to prepare for them and wesley pulls out the win.  huntingdon is a very nice team and deserves to be in the playoffs, but that will be tough unless some things break their way.  wesley's o line must improve its play, but if you look at the season they have been outplayed by 3 d lines from the south which may point to the level of players available down there.  i question some of the play calling today, inside the 10 early and the number of long passes during most of the game.  the defense keeps making the plays and that bodes well for the playoffs.  i just get a feeling that this team is going to make a deep run as they have not played a complete game and have beaten 4 ranked teams this year.  again, congrats to the hawks for a well played game and good luck the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 27, 2012, 06:45:36 PM
I made it to the game at Huntingdon today, met up with Hawks and DG, briefly said hi to DEWesley. Wesley is the biggest, most athletic, fastest D3 team I've seen since my one visit to the Stagg back when I was in college. That being said, their first half was a difficult series of mental errors and breakdowns and poor special teams. As evidenced from other posters, that team should have been better than they were. The sum of their parts was somehow less than the whole should have been.

Huntingdon played a very good game. They are a very good team, but not on Wesley's level. I was very impressed with Huntingdon's defense. The offense struggled against Wesley's defense, which I think was good in the first half and downright outstanding in the second.

I have no idea how Huntingdon lost to B-SC. I don't know how B-SC stayed as close to Wesley as they did, and if I was a playoff team, I would not look forward to playing either of them, though I'm thinking that loss will keep Huntingdon out.

That being said, Wesley needs to play better to reach their potential. Clearly they saw something in the first half that had them thinking they could throw long. They probably could if the qb was on target. He wasn't. And when he was, the receivers did him no favors. Can't blame it on the weather. There was a light breeze and it was cool for Alabama, but the weather was not a factor.

There were two things that really impressed me. 1) I don't know what the yards after contact were for Huntingdon, but they had to have been as small as I've ever seen. When Wesley touched the ball carrier, he went down immediately. That was impressive. Can only remember 1 missed tackle. 2) Huntingdon's defense played as hard as they could and almost pulled it off. By the 4th quarter, Wesley's superior athletes had taken control, but it was a close thing given Wesley's start.

A fun game to go see and those were two good teams. Wesley will be scarily good if they execute up to their potential.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 27, 2012, 06:51:35 PM
jk, thanks for the post.  it is always good to get a perspective from someone from afar as to how good wesley could be.  i am glad that you enjoyed the trip and that the game was a good one, too close for my liking but still a good one.  my friends said that it was the quietest they have ever seen me at the bar as i watched it on my wife's netbook.  i agree, they will be scarily good if they play a complete game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 06:55:09 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 27, 2012, 06:51:35 PM
jk, thanks for the post.  it is always good to get a perspective from someone from afar as to how good wesley could be.  i am glad that you enjoyed the trip and that the game was a good one, too close for my liking but still a good one.  my friends said that it was the quietest they have ever seen me at the bar as i watched it on my wife's netbook.  i agree, they will be scarily good if they play a complete game.

We say this every year.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 27, 2012, 06:59:01 PM
Unless you beat yourselves, or end up with a very unlucky pairing, Wesley should cruise to the final eight. After that there are too many variables for me to comment. If W&L wins the ODAC and has to go to Wesley in round 1 I'm not watching that game.

Teamski I've read that over and over from the Wesley posters. I'm not sure why. But they could have beaten themselves today and the first half looked like they were trying. Not sure what the key is to putting it together, but the mental mistakes were pretty obvious and costly in that first half. The qb not even being close on his long tosses was pretty shocking in the second.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 27, 2012, 07:59:14 PM
Just got home, very disappointed. We knew going in that it would take a solid 60 minutes to have a chance to win this one but we didn't quite do it. We wore them out for 45 minutes but you just aren't going to beat a team like Wesley if you turn it over three times in the 4th quarter. We had it in our hands and just let it slip away. Thought our defense played outstanding all day, just were put in difficult positions in the 4th with the turnovers.
Was good to meet jknezek today. Maybe we can see you at more HC games in the future. Hopefully DGP is making it home okay. Saw him and his motorcycle broken down on the interstate on the way home. His wife was on her way to pick him up and was supposed to be there shortly so maybe he is about home by now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2012, 08:50:06 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 27, 2012, 06:59:01 PM
Teamski I've read that over and over from the Wesley posters. I'm not sure why. But they could have beaten themselves today and the first half looked like they were trying. Not sure what the key is to putting it together, but the mental mistakes were pretty obvious and costly in that first half. The qb not even being close on his long tosses was pretty shocking in the second.

Wesley has a history of being extremely talented while somewhat erratic especially early in the season.  Today, Wesley had over 100 yards of penalties, and Sottilaire had a less than stellar day (even though he had no picks).  The offensive line was dominated as well.  I believe that today's performance was partially a result of Wesley's travel schedule.  Last week, they were in California playing Menlo and again left early this week to get to Montgomery.  I travelled with the team for three years and that traveling can take a lot of wind out of a team. You could see it in the players today.  However, once they got behind, that gave them the motivation to push harder in the second half.  I could be wrong, but that is what I saw.  I think Wesley will be in good shape for the playoffs now that their world tour is over for the year.

I agree that Wesley has some serious resiliency.   Last year's 49-35 win over Linfield aptly demonstrated that.  Wesley was behind 27-7 at the half and had the half of a lifetime to win the game.  However, that only goes so far.  As Wesley advances in the playoffs, that 60 minutes has to be filled front to end with good football. That includes the first two quarters.  They got pretty dang close at Mount Union.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 27, 2012, 09:15:17 PM
Hawks...brother, thanks for stopping and checking on me. The fuel pump (electric) went out. Ms Jayne brought the truck and hauled me home.
Logging trucks are too close for comfort on that part of I85

I too am disappointed, we have  a way to go to compete with the top tier teams in D3, but we are getting better.
WOW..Wesley is athletic.

Got to meet many Wesley folk, see a real good football game between a good team and a great team, and got commentary the whole game from one of the most knowledgeable D3 folk i have met, jknezek (since i met Ralph here several yrs back)
i hope Wesley gets to the Stagg
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 27, 2012, 09:41:18 PM
DG -- Bummer about the ride home but I sure did enjoy watching the game with you. Your guys played hard and well and gave themselves a real good chance at a win. When you schedule a team like Wesley you get a real good measure of where you're at, and I think Huntingdon is a good opponent for anyone right now. You might not be the top 10 of D3, but as far as I can tell that is a top 20 team you put on the field. Any given Saturday you'll have a shot at winning against anyone. Not much of D3 can say that. The killer was losing to B-SC this year.

The only thing I can think of is the B-SC team before the Wesley game was a different squad than the one I saw the week after at Trinity, or the one that lost to Sewanee. Otherwise nothing makes sense to me.

Easy drive for me, so maybe next year I'll make it back for the UMHB game. That's another team I'd like to lay eyes on.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 27, 2012, 09:56:23 PM
Glad you made it home safely, DGP. Never realized how scary it is to walk down the shoulder of an interstate.  :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 27, 2012, 10:10:45 PM
  I think the travel may have something to do with some sluggishness and the concentration has been off a little too They haven't just flown once or twice and they had to bus to and from the airports too....I have to believe that this storm may be on their minds also I understand Wilmington has some mandatory evacuations Sunday so Dover is probably on that list! .. Say what you will but they are still kids. I can only comment on the first half and what I saw was mistakes. I can understand the long ball idea... If you get lucky you get  the edge and the short stuff and running just weren't there either.. The execution is not there the whole game but it seems these kids just keep going and going till it works!! Either way great win for Wesley on the road against another real good team
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 27, 2012, 10:13:31 PM
Hawks
thanks
it was scary being there. a group of bikers stopped just before u...all wering 'color's, but they were nice and offered to help

when i look up and saw u walking down the side of the interstate, man it meant a bunch to me....thanks .. really

Lord willing i'll see u next week in the Valley, hope we can rebound and whip Point
keep the faith my friend
Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 27, 2012, 10:16:37 PM
jknezek
come back down to Montgomery... you always welcome
keep the faith my friend
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 28, 2012, 08:41:54 AM
dg, sorry to hear about the cycle issue and glad that you made it home safe.  seems that you have some nice people down that way.  i always like visiting the south, the people just seem a little nicer than some up here in the north.

jk, the camera man was not that good today and hardly ever kept up with the long passes.  you mentioned that the qb was off on the throws.  were the receivers open on the plays?  hate not seeing games live because you miss so much of what is really going on during a play.  i have met dg at the stagg and he and his son are class individuals.  i am glad that you got to see wesley live and now understand us wolverine fans constantly lamenting about how good they can be if they put it all together in a game.  it is going to be very interesting come playoff time as teams keep losing.  the south is getting desimated and after UMHB, wesley, and maybe hopkins there are a lot of questions as to who else will be serious challengers for the final 8.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 28, 2012, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 28, 2012, 08:41:54 AM

jk, the camera man was not that good today and hardly ever kept up with the long passes.  you mentioned that the qb was off on the throws.  were the receivers open on the plays?  hate not seeing games live because you miss so much of what is really going on during a play.

On several of the long throws the receiver was open. In the first half, the Huntingdon secondary was very, very good. I watch the secondaries a lot because I find it the most interesting part of a game these days. Whatever adjustments Wesley made at the half, primarily to run a lot of "go routes" and to take advantage of receiver speed, helped. The receivers could get a step or two, the qb just couldn't hit them. The couple times he did, the receivers dropped the passes.

The adjustment was correct, the execution was poor.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 28, 2012, 10:34:09 AM
Quote from: jknezek on October 28, 2012, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 28, 2012, 08:41:54 AM

jk, the camera man was not that good today and hardly ever kept up with the long passes.  you mentioned that the qb was off on the throws.  were the receivers open on the plays?  hate not seeing games live because you miss so much of what is really going on during a play.

On several of the long throws the receiver was open. In the first half, the Huntingdon secondary was very, very good. I watch the secondaries a lot because I find it the most interesting part of a game these days. Whatever adjustments Wesley made at the half, primarily to run a lot of "go routes" and to take advantage of receiver speed, helped. The receivers could get a step or two, the qb just couldn't hit them. The couple times he did, the receivers dropped the passes.

The adjustment was correct, the execution was poor.

jk, thanks for the insight.  home this week and then a bye week should have wesley ready for whomever they get in the first round.  i expect them to be home for at least 1 and depending on how wesley and jhu get seeded hopefully a 2nd home game in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 28, 2012, 11:01:59 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 27, 2012, 10:16:37 PM
jknezek
come back down to Montgomery... you always welcome
keep the faith my friend

I am also thrilled everything worked out.  I couldn't imagine getting stranded like that.  Nothing tops the day like a mechanical failure.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 28, 2012, 11:04:06 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 28, 2012, 08:41:54 AM
  it is going to be very interesting come playoff time as teams keep losing.  the south is getting desimated and after UMHB, wesley, and maybe hopkins there are a lot of questions as to who else will be serious challengers for the final 8.

I fully expect that if Wesley gets into the semis,  it will be another trip to UMHB for the second year running.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 28, 2012, 09:46:53 PM
Made it back safe and sound today, and after a long nap think I put together a few coherent sentences.  First, it was so nice to meet up with you guys at the game and I too appreciate hearing your thoughts - shame that we didn't manage to get in earlier to better enjoy it.  Sorry you had trouble heading home DGP :( 

Everything already posted about the game is correct.  I think it really was a lack of focus - whether that be because of the impending weather, the travel schedule, or what - and I give them lots of credit for fighting back and getting the job done.  That seems to be the theme this year.  Hawks did a good job of taking advantage of the weak links in the o-line, and their secondary was solid.  Not quite sure what was going on between Sot & the receivers - a few balls were nowhere near anyone, others overthrown, others dropped as JK said.  Saw some more heated conversations on the sideline between the QB, rec's, and coaches than I can recall in some time.  Wish they would use Barile in the slot more often.  And of course defense came up big again to keep us in the game long enough for offense to wake up.  Still confused/aggravated with the defensive game plan.  In the first half we kept playing off the receivers and giving them way too much room to work.  I understand respecting their speed, but if we use the right personnel we have the speed to match.  Glad to see in the second half we got more aggressive, but still not enough for my taste though I'll assume Drass has a master plan and it's worked pretty well so far.  Hopkins and the return teams did a great job of giving us excellent field position, even if the offense couldn't capitalize early.  Hopefully they'll be able to rest up a little since classes are cancelled for at least a day or two, work on correcting some things in this week's game, and be ready to go come playoff time.    If these regular season experiences didn't prepare them well for this run, then nothing will. 

Many thanks to all the kind folks down there who wished us well and safe travels (even after the game!).  I guess there was some chatter from the students in the end zone that the team didn't much appreciate (the beauty of college football!) but everybody we encountered could not have been nicer (especially our D3 buddies).  Your facilities are quite nice down there, and you have a strong team that just got worn down in the end.  Good luck to you the rest of the way. 
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Post by: beenhit2hard on October 28, 2012, 09:47:39 PM
Heck of a weekend on Chincoteague,,we won our 3rd game of the season,,28-22 over Fuqua, then had to deal with the hurricane.We left the Island at noon today just to be safe.We cant practice till weds at the earlyest for a tough game on friday the we get to come to a game(finally) on Sat,,if it will still be on.It has been a strange season for us,,one sr, one jr and the rest  are 9th and 10th grade,,Hope every one survives this storm,,see you next Sat
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Post by: umhb2001 on October 28, 2012, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 28, 2012, 11:04:06 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 28, 2012, 08:41:54 AM
  it is going to be very interesting come playoff time as teams keep losing.  the south is getting desimated and after UMHB, wesley, and maybe hopkins there are a lot of questions as to who else will be serious challengers for the final 8.

I fully expect that if Wesley gets into the semis,  it will be another trip to UMHB for the second year running.

-Ski

You bet!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 28, 2012, 10:48:46 PM
beenhit2hard

great to her from ya. we were getting worried .. Congrats on the wins!!! keep it going!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 28, 2012, 10:56:27 PM
just throwing this out there, but my final 8 as of right now are Mount and Hobart, St. Thomas and NCC, Linfield and Oshkosh, and UMHB and Wesley.  if no one gets upset I think the top seeds will be Mount, UMHB, Linfield and St. Thomas.  thinking that Hobart gets a 2 in the Mount bracket, NCC gets a 2 or 3 in the St. Thomas bracket, Oshkosh gets the 2 with Linfield, and Wesley gets the 2 or 3 with UMHB.  from there it will be anyone's guess as i think these are the top 8 teams in the country right now.  some others are close but i think they lose in the semis of whatever region they are in.  i believe there is a gap between these teams and the rest from what i have seen so far this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on October 29, 2012, 08:29:37 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 28, 2012, 10:48:46 PM
beenhit2hard

great to her from ya. we were getting worried .. Congrats on the wins!!! keep it going!!

WE have had 3 games on saturday same days as Wes home games, we are ok, just worried about the Hurricane
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 29, 2012, 08:30:23 AM
hope all my acfc friends make it safely through what looks like could be a really messy next couple of days.  beenhit, hope all is well for you down your way and thay you get to make the game on saturday.  thank goodness wesley has turf, grass field would be a mess after this storm.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 29, 2012, 09:46:41 AM
Stay safe this week all of you in DE, or around there. I know we are already feeling some of the effects of Sandy all the way in Ohio. Hopefully itll pass quickly, and we can have a nice sunny Saturday for football this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 29, 2012, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 29, 2012, 09:46:41 AM
Stay safe this week all of you in DE, or around there. I know we are already feeling some of the effects of Sandy all the way in Ohio. Hopefully itll pass quickly, and we can have a nice sunny Saturday for football this weekend.

Yep, wind is starting to really kick up and the rain continues to pour.  Dover will be about 30 miles south of the eye and it is definitely going to be interesting.  Expecting to lose power any ti
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 29, 2012, 04:40:05 PM
  Wouldn't want to be near Frostburg today. 2 plus feet of snow and hurricane force winds.. Stay safe in those mtns. as well as VA and WVA
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 29, 2012, 04:41:19 PM
  beenhit2hard

Wesley should get at least one home playoff game!!so maybe we'll see ya in three weeks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 29, 2012, 05:50:24 PM
Can understand the travel issues/concerns with Wesley last weekend - we werent that far from you in Valley, Ala.  They drove back all night (I had a flight out of ATL).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 29, 2012, 07:00:53 PM
Huntingdon is playing inValley, Alabama this weekend.
just 30 miles from the farm

i hope we can rebound from the Wesley loss
i sure hope i can see Wesely in the Stagg this year
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on October 29, 2012, 08:08:09 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 29, 2012, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 29, 2012, 09:46:41 AM
Stay safe this week all of you in DE, or around there. I know we are already feeling some of the effects of Sandy all the way in Ohio. Hopefully itll pass quickly, and we can have a nice sunny Saturday for football this weekend.

Yep, wind is starting to really kick up and the rain continues to pour.  Dover will be about 30 miles south of the eye and it is definitely going to be interesting.  Expecting to lose power any ti

;D Well done. +k
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on October 29, 2012, 11:30:23 PM
I'm actually worried about all my Wesley non-stop friends.
Dover Downs was closed today.
Hope all is well. Wouldn't want to be in your shoes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 30, 2012, 12:10:07 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on October 29, 2012, 11:30:23 PM
I'm actually worried about all my Wesley non-stop friends.
Dover Downs was closed today.
Hope all is well. Wouldn't want to be in your shoes.

d o c, some areas hit hard some not so bad, all depends on where you are.  dover received over 6 inches of rain.  wesley has a turf field so it should be fine for saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 30, 2012, 12:29:53 PM
hopefully Northern folks got through Sandy OK - Im sure the Wesley wind tunnel (lol) will be whippin around come Saturday
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 30, 2012, 02:43:36 PM
We're about 35 minutes south of Dover and made out fine - lots of water and wind but minimal damage unless you're along the coast.  Haven't heard any reports of significant problems around Dover - just typical minor flooding, downed trees, etc. so hope all is well there.  Salisbury had similar reports.  Hope everybody in NJ/NY is ok as it looked much worse there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 30, 2012, 04:28:45 PM
We got off pretty well here in Dover.  The eye passed North of us around Wilmington.  It was everybody North of the storm that got it pretty bad.  Some minor flooding locally but nothing bad at all.  We got about 8.5" of rain. Whew!  That thing was coming straight for us too.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 30, 2012, 05:16:16 PM
thanks for updates, yall are in our prayers, keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 31, 2012, 02:00:32 PM
Regional Rankings are out. Wolverines are #2 and the Hawks are tied #5.

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2012/10/31/first-2012-ncaa-regional-rankings/

That should put HC first on the board in the South for a Pool C, (if they win out.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 31, 2012, 03:10:47 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on October 31, 2012, 02:00:32 PM
Regional Rankings are out. Wolverines are #2 and the Hawks are tied #5.

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2012/10/31/first-2012-ncaa-regional-rankings/

That should put HC first on the board in the South for a Pool C, (if they win out.)

That is great news for HC!  I will keep my fingers crossed for them however they have two non-regional games remaining compared to some other teams on the list.  I hope that doesn't kill their chances.  It was also nice to see Wesley get rewarded for it's SOS.  If they stay where they are, then they have two guaranteed home games for the playoffs.

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 31, 2012, 03:41:51 PM
The Huntingdon/Adrian game counts as in region. Also Adrian is RR at #8 in the North, so with a win that would be a two against RRO's (including the Hampden-Sydney victory.) Gotta win Hawks!

Wesley with two home games would make my wife very happy since I wouldn't be running out the door on Thanksgiving (assuming they win in the first round) to catch a flight. Hopefully they don't get moved to another bracket as a three seed but you never know.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 31, 2012, 05:26:54 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on October 31, 2012, 03:41:51 PM
The Huntingdon/Adrian game counts as in region. Also Adrian is RR at #8 in the North, so with a win that would be a two against RRO's (including the Hampden-Sydney victory.) Gotta win Hawks!

Wesley with two home games would make my wife very happy since I wouldn't be running out the door on Thanksgiving (assuming they win in the first round) to catch a flight. Hopefully they don't get moved to another bracket as a three seed but you never know.

Good point, I missed that.  Plus a win over Adrian will help the SoS as well.  It will be really neat to see how the playoffs pan out.  We very well may be seeing a never-played-before opponent or two for Wesley this year in the playoffs.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 31, 2012, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 31, 2012, 05:26:54 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on October 31, 2012, 03:41:51 PM
The Huntingdon/Adrian game counts as in region. Also Adrian is RR at #8 in the North, so with a win that would be a two against RRO's (including the Hampden-Sydney victory.) Gotta win Hawks!

Wesley with two home games would make my wife very happy since I wouldn't be running out the door on Thanksgiving (assuming they win in the first round) to catch a flight. Hopefully they don't get moved to another bracket as a three seed but you never know.

Good point, I missed that.  Plus a win over Adrian will help the SoS as well.  It will be really neat to see how the playoffs pan out.  We very well may be seeing a never-played-before opponent or two for Wesley this year in the playoffs.

-Ski

Ski, not sure about that.  the first round may be someone new, W&L possibly if they beat Hampden, but with wesley looking like a 2 and hopkins a 3 if both win then we have a rematch from 2 years ago.  at least this time i would hope we dont get the rain, freezing rain, snow mess if we do.  maybe the best traveling crowd i have seen at wesley, they came out despite the weather.  huntingdon needs to win out and hope they stack up well against the other teams that make the table.  i would be surprised if they got passed over each time, they should get in.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 31, 2012, 06:57:28 PM
Just got my power back after two days . schools still closed with lots of power out and numerous rds closed!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 31, 2012, 07:07:21 PM
pawesley, seems like your way got it worse than a lot of the areas around my way.  hope all is well and you get things back to normal in a couple of days.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on November 01, 2012, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 31, 2012, 06:57:28 PM
Just got my power back after two days . schools still closed with lots of power out and numerous rds closed!!

We just went back to school today,got one day of practice and have a game tomorrow, We have two players that have major damage to their houses and have not come back to the Island .Lots of downed trees on houses etc here.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 01, 2012, 10:36:22 PM
  Fell very lucky that we  are back on line... I know there are thousands who are not so lucky and thousands who have lost so much more..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on November 02, 2012, 01:28:17 PM
Hawks88
We are going to try to get to Valley, Al pre kickoff.
Hope the Hawks can rebound from the Wesley defeat, keep their eyes on the prize (as slim as it appears tobe, and beat Point U
hope to see yall there
travel safe Keep the faith, and Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 02, 2012, 08:58:31 PM
We should see you there, DGP. Did you get your wheels running again? I think the fellas will come back okay from last week. They seem to be a pretty resilient bunch.


Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 03, 2012, 11:14:44 AM
Anyone looking forward to experiencing the Wesley wind tunnel will not be disappointed today!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 03, 2012, 11:18:46 AM
the storm has washed out my choice for a game today, was looking forward to seeing rowan again to see how much they have progressed since week 1.  totally understand the canceling of the game as NJ has been wrecked by the storm, hopefully both schools and all the other schools hit hard by the storm are coming back to normal and that all parties involved are safe.  only other game i thought about was the salisbury/utica game, but decided not to make the 3rd trip to see the gulls play.  the wesley game will not be competitive so i have decided to stay at the computer and get a look at some of the teams that may have a chance to win some games in the playoffs.  enjoy the tirp to dover if you are going today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 03, 2012, 11:38:55 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 03, 2012, 11:18:46 AM
the storm has washed out my choice for a game today, was looking forward to seeing rowan again to see how much they have progressed since week 1.  totally understand the canceling of the game as NJ has been wrecked by the storm, hopefully both schools and all the other schools hit hard by the storm are coming back to normal and that all parties involved are safe.  only other game i thought about was the salisbury/utica game, but decided not to make the 3rd trip to see the gulls play.  the wesley game will not be competitive so i have decided to stay at the computer and get a look at some of the teams that may have a chance to win some games in the playoffs.  enjoy the tirp to dover if you are going today.

There is always the UMHB-ETBU game. It is available here! http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/umhb.portal# (http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/umhb.portal#)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 03, 2012, 12:53:32 PM
2001, i already know how good the cru is, no need to watch them today.  want to see some others who might be good.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2012, 05:32:47 PM
A less than stellar effort from the Hawks today. We figured on having a let down this week but that was too close. First half was all kind of sloppy but the defense came out and played the second half like they were supposed to and the offense was able to control the ball and pull away. Back home next week for another big one against Adrian.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 03, 2012, 06:20:30 PM
Well it seems that the wind tunnel was in force today at Scott D. Miller Stadium - whew
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on November 03, 2012, 06:42:25 PM
Hawks88
Great to see yall today.
Huntingdon was up only 20-19 going into halftime, and were very sluggish.

i think they had a prayer meeting during halftime, not saying the Hawks came out blazing, but they won 33-19.

Got to baredown this week, get thier heads right and come to play next weekend against Adrian

Go Hawks and Keep the Faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 03, 2012, 08:23:27 PM
As expected, today's game wasn't very competitive but I thought it was actually a nice change of pace to all the nail biters :)  Apprentice was a scrappy little team, and I give them credit for playing hard and using some gutsy play calling.  I heard one of their coaches say they are mostly freshmen and sophomores so hopefully that means good things for their future.  Congrats to the Hawks for your win today too!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2012, 08:51:25 PM
Thanks, DE. Big game next week after getting lots of help today with the three Pool C teams getting their 2nd losses.
I'm sure you guys will be interested to know that I found out today that Huntingdon is coming to Wesley next season. Very tough non-conference schedule for us with you guys, UMHB and Miss. College.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 03, 2012, 09:19:01 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 03, 2012, 08:51:25 PM
Thanks, DE. Big game next week after getting lots of help today with the three Pool C teams getting their 2nd losses.
I'm sure you guys will be interested to know that I found out today that Huntingdon is coming to Wesley next season. Very tough non-conference schedule for us with you guys, UMHB and Miss. College.

Go Hawks!

That is quite the trifecta!  Hardcore!  I am thrilled that the Hawks won today.  It is now up to them to help secure a playoff spot.

Wesley understandably subbed out liberally today.  I hoped to see Callahan get some playtime, but obviously he wasn't suited up.  Now it is a waiting game to see how the playoffs pan out.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 03, 2012, 09:40:50 PM
Ski - Do you know what is wrong with him?  Had heard he was injured awhile back but didn't know what he had hurt.  I was impressed last year with what a good looking ball he throws.  Also noticed Cummings came out in sweat clothes after half time - he didn't look too upset so am hoping nothing major was wrong with him?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 03, 2012, 09:51:18 PM
Nice that JHU lost today. They fall closer back to the pack in the South Region Rankings.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on November 03, 2012, 10:04:20 PM
Hawks
For sure MHB, Wesley & MC???
AUSOME, i am sure proud of that.

But Coach Turk is a believer in the mantra "Anybody, Anytime, Anywhere"

Also, Hammer down Wesley, hope to see yall in the Stagg

keep the faith and Go Hawks
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2012, 10:14:08 PM
Yep, three non-conf games. Apparently the league voted to only do 7 conf games for next year so some could honor existing contracts. We don't play CNU next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 04, 2012, 04:51:52 AM
Probably close to 3/4ths freshmen and sophomores for us DE Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 04, 2012, 11:33:46 AM
Well thats the last one. Made it to the end only dropping one to UMHB. I think the bye week will help coming into playoff time. The team can get heathy and make sure its focus is on that first playoff game. If this team can put it together itll be a long run. I think they are really close.

I think it will be important with Koudossou healthy to not force the ball in his direction like in the beginning of the season. He is the playmaker, but not the only one. Guys have stepped up in his absence and they need to get the ball out to Bundy, Wiggs, Gerlitz and Howe more often.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 04, 2012, 12:45:45 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 03, 2012, 09:40:50 PM
Ski - Do you know what is wrong with him?  Had heard he was injured awhile back but didn't know what he had hurt.  I was impressed last year with what a good looking ball he throws.  Also noticed Cummings came out in sweat clothes after half time - he didn't look too upset so am hoping nothing major was wrong with him?

I don't have a clue.  I noticed Cummings out as well, but you are most likely right that they wanted to be cautious.  Also, Davar Robinson didn't suit up either, so Wesley was definitely taking the safe route for the game.  I didn't see Callahan on the sidelines, but he may of been up in the coache's platform.  That is where they usually put their backup QB's if they aren't playing.  I know he is the current heir apparent to Sottilaire. I was impressed by 13's size (I can't recall his name).  6'6" 213.  He hawked over the center!  It was great to see Joe Bonato get some good game time in.   Seniors like him really represent what the sport is all about.  I knew him since he was a freshman and life on the scout team goes without much reward, that is for sure!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 04, 2012, 02:44:42 PM
  I think Cunningham has a medical red shirt so he gets 3 more years
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 10, 2012, 01:05:05 AM
Good luck to Huntingdon today!  I will be rooting you guys on.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 10, 2012, 07:22:17 AM
Thanks, ski. Hoping for a good day today.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 10, 2012, 08:54:36 AM
huntingdon, take care of business today and then hope that the resume you put together is good enough to get in the show.  beating adrian today will certainly make a statement.  good luck.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on November 10, 2012, 09:57:20 AM
I agree. If 2 of my kids weren't sick and the other one needing to go to a birthday party I might have made the drive down to Montgomery again. Oh well. Show those Michigan boys what the South can do.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 10, 2012, 02:42:56 PM
Ugh!  The lag on the Huntingdon video feed is horrible!  Dang it.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 10, 2012, 04:51:03 PM
bad loss by the hawks.  somebody else just got real happy as a pool c spot likely just opened up.  cant give up a 16 point lead like that.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 10, 2012, 05:19:22 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 10, 2012, 04:51:03 PM
bad loss by the hawks.  somebody else just got real happy as a pool c spot likely just opened up.  cant give up a 16 point lead like that.


I quit watching the game due to the lag in the 3rd quarter thinking that the Hawks had the game sewn up and what????  Hawks88, I am sorry to see 17 points given up in a single quarter like that in a game like this.  What happened?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 10, 2012, 07:26:29 PM
Don't really feel like typing up a game report right now. Luckily for most of it I can just copy/paste my post from two weeks ago as it was pretty much the same damn game.

Just got home, very disappointed. We knew going in that it would take a solid 60 minutes to have a chance to win this one but we didn't quite do it. We wore them out for 45 minutes but you just aren't going to beat a team like Wesley Adrian if you turn it over three four times in the 4th quarter. We had it in our hands and just let it slip away. Thought our defense played outstanding all day, just were put in difficult positions in the 4th with the turnovers.

About the only thing to add is that the 4th quarter incomplete pass that for whatever unfathomable reason was ruled a fumble was possibly the worst call I've seen in all my years of watching football.

Good luck in the playoffs to Wesley, Adrian and whoever gets the spot we just freaking gave away.

Good night. See you next year.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on November 10, 2012, 08:52:18 PM
i am late to the arty/wake (had to work late today)

watched some of the game here and there on the computer, and really thought we had it in hand.... i am usually wrong when i feel that way

tough loss for the Hawks, got to rebound, set goals on Monday, recruit/reload, hit the off season training hard, and come back next season with another set of goals

Good luck Wesley, i really really hope to see yall in the Stagg
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 10, 2012, 08:54:39 PM
dg, tough loss.  you will see me at the stagg, hopefully the team will be there too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 10, 2012, 09:09:03 PM
I would be crushed.......  Well, Huntingdon is still heading in the right direction.  They played Wesley tougher than ever and that says a lot about the team.  We will see you next year. Hang in there.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on November 10, 2012, 09:15:02 PM
Ski
we will see yall in Dover, and hopefully give yall a better game, and i am a bit down, but hay, we will get better

WesleyDad- hope to see you there my friend

Hawks88
Go Hawks

keep the faith

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 10, 2012, 09:16:14 PM
Sorry guys - that's a tough way to lose and frustrating as hell :(   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 11, 2012, 06:14:23 PM
You're welcome, Bridgewater St.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 11, 2012, 06:14:32 PM
So I was right!  The 4 consecutive ranked opponents that Wesley faced this season is a Division III record.  Well done Wolverines.  And, they do meet a first-time opponent in Mount Ida.  Let the games begin!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 11, 2012, 06:39:12 PM
Bracket definitely doesnt look as tough as last year. Wesley had the chance to rest up, its time to play their best football yet, which they havent been able to do. UMHB and Mount are the biggest challenges IMO, more so Mount. Kind of glad we are on the same side as them. If Wesley wins that many games, I get to see them in Ohio, and you have to beat them anyways so why not now.

Dont know too much about Mount Ida, but its time for Wesley to buckle up and play the best 5 football games of their lives.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 11, 2012, 06:44:46 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 11, 2012, 06:39:12 PM
Bracket definitely doesnt look as tough as last year. Wesley had the chance to rest up, its time to play their best football yet, which they havent been able to do. UMHB and Mount are the biggest challenges IMO, more so Mount. Kind of glad we are on the same side as them. If Wesley wins that many games, I get to see them in Ohio, and you have to beat them anyways so why not now.

Dont know too much about Mount Ida, but its time for Wesley to buckle up and play the best 5 football games of their lives.

None of this is new to us, right?  The trip to Belton will be a real challenge this year.  I hope that Wesley brings their A-Game.  That is, of course, if they don't hiccup on the way.  I doubt that will happen.  The offense is really going to have to bring up their game.  They can't afford stalled drives in the first half at all! 

Mount Ida is coming down from Massachusetts.  I love seeing new teams on the field. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 11, 2012, 08:25:02 PM
Agreed that it will be fun to play at least one new opponent, but hope we don't get caught looking too far ahead (don't expect it, but stranger things have happened....).  It's a shame that UMHB and Mt Union are on the same side of the bracket, but maybe feeling that way just shows how little I know about most folks on the other side.  Was glad to see Louisianna College get in too.  Let's go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 11, 2012, 09:14:31 PM
wesley has an easier path to the 1/4's than umhb does.  none of the teams they have to play can beat them if they show up and play.  umhb has to beat la coll and then franklin, niether of which is an easy game.  cortland can not score and mt ida is not much better than anyone wesley has beaten in the last 5 years or so.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 11, 2012, 09:18:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 11, 2012, 06:14:32 PM
So I was right!  The 4 consecutive ranked opponents that Wesley faced this season is a Division III record.  Well done Wolverines.  And, they do meet a first-time opponent in Mount Ida.  Let the games begin!!

-Ski
Wesley played them in '99. They were supposed to come to Dover in 2000 but didn't have enough players healthy and had to cancel. Of course that's ancient history.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 11, 2012, 09:24:20 PM
they can bring 100, this game should be ugly.  they have 2 losses against the schedule they play.  newport news may be the only team that wesley played close to them and i dont know if that would not be a game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 11, 2012, 09:52:47 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on November 11, 2012, 09:18:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 11, 2012, 06:14:32 PM
So I was right!  The 4 consecutive ranked opponents that Wesley faced this season is a Division III record.  Well done Wolverines.  And, they do meet a first-time opponent in Mount Ida.  Let the games begin!!

-Ski
Wesley played them in '99. They were supposed to come to Dover in 2000 but didn't have enough players healthy and had to cancel. Of course that's ancient history.

Before  my time for sure!  Thanks for the fact check.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 11, 2012, 10:23:47 PM
Mt Ida will be a 35 pt underdog. Played them in the once nineties and it wasn't pretty. The second game was cancelled in 200 but I forget why.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 11, 2012, 10:34:06 PM
mt ida lossed to galludet.  ton of respect for galludet but when wesley played them several years ago it was not pretty.  i know they have improved since then but they held ida to 22.  wesley needs to play mistake free and show off a little since the schedule has been so tough this year.  this is a top 4 team and i hope they go out and show it this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on November 11, 2012, 11:00:12 PM
"Several years ago" generally isn't relevant in any of the cases mentioned, but I do feel that the Mount Ida game will be a walkover. I'm not in agreement that Cortland, should they get to Wesley, will be a pushover too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SUADC on November 11, 2012, 11:10:45 PM
Having seen all each team play this year, I believe the Mt. Ida game is in the bag for for Wesley, still playoffs, can't give any opportunity of life. However, Cortland St. reminds me of Huntingdon, but Cortland State quarterback is more mistake free than that of Huntingdon QB. Also, Cortland uses a high percentage passing game and that has been some concern for Wesley. Therefore, I think Wesley has to bring there best and not play down to their opponent and let their athletes shine. If each team makes it to the next round (more likely than not), it will be a great game to watch, hopefully I am not watching the game, but instead watching my Seagulls play. Good Luck this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 12, 2012, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: SUADC on November 11, 2012, 11:10:45 PM
Having seen all each team play this year, I believe the Mt. Ida game is in the bag for for Wesley, still playoffs, can't give any opportunity of life. However, Cortland St. reminds me of Huntingdon, but Cortland State quarterback is more mistake free than that of Huntingdon QB. Also, Cortland uses a high percentage passing game and that has been some concern for Wesley. Therefore, I think Wesley has to bring there best and not play down to their opponent and let their athletes shine. If each team makes it to the next round (more likely than not), it will be a great game to watch, hopefully I am not watching the game, but instead watching my Seagulls play. Good Luck this weekend.

Good luck to the Seagulls as well!  Wesley usually gets its A game on in the playoffs.  By this time, the staff on both sides of the ball get about as good as they will get.  No doubt that Wesley will have to be consistently good to get far in the playoffs.  As far as Cortland State, we all know what Montclair State and Kean have done in the past, so Wesley's coaches will be on top of it.

I get to film this weekend, so I will be on top of the coaches box again.  Like old times.  Yay!

-Ski
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Post by: thewaterboy on November 15, 2012, 10:10:39 PM
Hoping to see a rejuvinated and refocused Wesley squad Saturday. This team was just way too traveled out by the time they got to Huntingdon. The home game vs. Apprentice and the bye week will sure have helped. Something special is on the way. This 2012 squad wants it, just like the 2011 squad wanted it and could have SHOULD have won that game in Alliance.

As far as a rematch with UMHB (of course they cannot overlook their other opponents nor can UMHB), it will not come easy for UMHB to win. 2008 was the last time UMHB beat Wesley when it counted, and I dont think that the boys in blue will be worried about that week 3 loss. They wont mind winning in Belton either. They came within 7 points of the "unstoppable" UMHB team with -4 rushing yards and had a chance to tie in the last series. Week 3 doesnt count anymore. The potential quarterfinal matchup will.
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 16, 2012, 10:47:20 AM
I too hate to look ahead to a rematch with UMHB, but it's just too tempting!!  It should be very interesting to see how each team has improved since the first game, and the game plan each team comes up with since there is now so much familiarity.  I do hope Louisianna College gives UMHB a good game tomorrow.  They're a scrappy team with some decent talent, and I'm sure they're excited and anxious to prove they've earned this playoff spot.  Don't think they hang with UMHB for the whole game, but stranger things have happened.  Looking forward to a strong Wesley showing tomorrow - hoping we come out focused, and can get through without any injuries.  Safe travels to everyone!
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Post by: @d3jason on November 16, 2012, 10:50:06 AM
One at a time fellas!!!
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Post by: Teamski on November 16, 2012, 11:31:33 AM
At least we will have some good football weather without the wet stuff and nasty winds.....Knock on wood.

-Ski
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Post by: thewaterboy on November 16, 2012, 11:51:30 AM
Still have Mount Ida and the Cortland State/Framingham winner to get through but it is very tempting to look ahead.  ;)

Im hoping that Wesley can come out and play its cleanest game yet. And most importantly, get a running game going. They need to establish something if they want to make a run. Hopefully Koudossou will be back in action as well and that Sottilare can get him the ball as long as he doesnt force it.
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Post by: @d3jason on November 16, 2012, 12:10:49 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 16, 2012, 11:51:30 AM
Still have Mount Ida and the Cortland State/Framingham winner to get through but it is very tempting to look ahead.  ;)

Im hoping that Wesley can come out and play its cleanest game yet. And most importantly, get a running game going. They need to establish something if they want to make a run. Hopefully Koudossou will be back in action as well and that Sottilare can get him the ball as long as he doesnt force it.

He was back against Apprentice and had 20-plus yards on both touches.
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Post by: wesleydad on November 16, 2012, 02:07:59 PM
was expecting to head to salisbury to see a good game as I dont think this game will be much to watch.  The Rowan QB is out so I will be saving 2 hours of drive time and stop at Dover for the game.  I want to see the defense dominate the game as they should, Mt Ida should not reach double digits.  If this team is as good as I think they are then they should score 50+, no turnovers, no stupid penalties.  Finally, the O line has to start playing to their ability and dominate a much lesser opponent.  See you all at the game.
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 16, 2012, 04:36:42 PM
The key to a strong run in the playoffs will be how well the offense controls the ball (as you've all said - running game, better o-line, better qb decisions).  Can't have the stupid turnovers and many 3-and-outs that put the defense into too many bad positions.   The defense has had to bail the offense out too often during the regular season and you can't usually beat a top notch team that way (as we saw earlier in the year).  Hope to see a greater sense of determination tomorrow. 
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Post by: Teamski on November 17, 2012, 12:53:23 AM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 16, 2012, 04:36:42 PM
The key to a strong run in the playoffs will be how well the offense controls the ball (as you've all said - running game, better o-line, better qb decisions).  Can't have the stupid turnovers and many 3-and-outs that put the defense into too many bad positions.   The defense has had to bail the offense out too often during the regular season and you can't usually beat a top notch team that way (as we saw earlier in the year).  Hope to see a greater sense of determination tomorrow.

Well stated.  I think you hit the nail on the head.  See you at the game!

-Ski
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Post by: thewaterboy on November 17, 2012, 12:09:36 PM
Very refreshing first drive! Way to go o-line! 30 yards on 4 plays= 1 touchdown. All rushing.
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Post by: Teamski on November 17, 2012, 03:47:29 PM
Wesley took care of business today!  With the exception of a returned screen interception by Mount Ida and one Mount Ida drive chocked full off gadget plays, Wesley was pretty much all over it.  Some big hits out on the field today.  73-14..... now for Cortland State!  Go Wolverines!

It was interesting to see the gadget plays today by Mount Ida.  I don't recall another team implementing so many of them in one game!  Reminded me of Jim Zorn and the Seahawks back in the day.  I particularly liked the spread punt that had the line with only 3 guys in the middle.  That really opened up the field for the punter (who happened to be the QB, of course!).  Fun stuff.

-Ski
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Post by: wesleydad on November 17, 2012, 04:08:09 PM
won like they should have.  still have great reservations about the o line.  they had very little push and wesley struggled running the ball between the tackles.  next weeks game will likely be similar as cortland does not have a potent offense, only 20 today against framingham.  do not expect wesley to score 70 but dont think that cortland can keep them under 20 which is what i think they would have to do to win the game.
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Post by: dlippiel on November 17, 2012, 04:11:24 PM
Wesley is going to roll Cortland. The dragons don't seem to have it this year, at least enough to defeat a solid Wesley team.
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 17, 2012, 09:48:00 PM
 You don't see Punt formation on first down to often or a flea flicker on a fake punt . I guess when your QB is the punter it helps. Definately
kept the game interesting.
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 17, 2012, 09:51:59 PM
Agree about the o-line still not being as solid as I'd like.  Brandenburg had what might have been the best game of his career today - couple really solid hits, an interception, and overall decent coverage.  He's aggravated me quite a bit over the years, but I'll give him credit for really showing up today - hope that continues the rest of the way.  The team seemed generally more focused and to have that "just take care of business" attitude they have to have. 

Have to say I really enjoyed Mt Ida's punt team.  It's not easy to execute those kinds of plays, and they were certainly fun to watch. 

Will be important to get through next week without any injuries, as that seems to be another problem of ours at this point in the post season. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 18, 2012, 07:57:06 AM
early look at next weeks game.  looking at the boxscores, cortland gives up a lot of passing yards, but they seem to intercept the ball too.  they beat kean with 2 int returns for td's and intercepted 4 yesterday.  sott will have to be accurate and have no int's.  offensivley they dont seem to be explosive, seem to pass more than run.  only getting 20 yesterday with 5 to's from framingham does not say much for the offense.  as usual, the o line has to improve and sott has to make the plays and wesley should move on.  with no to's i dont think cortland reaches 20 and i dont expect them to be able to hold wesley under 20.
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Post by: beenhit2hard on November 18, 2012, 03:10:48 PM
We missed yesterday's game due to a previous commitment( a former players wedding) so we went to the Salisbury-Rowan game so we could get home in time, sat on the Rowan side ,,WOW. We thought we were in a reality tv segment of the Jersey Shore,,the language,the various threats to the officials,,a full length fur coat on one female fan,,a female who was telling the refs where to stick his flags when he threw them ,,and when he didn't,, 'A promise to meet the refs in the parking lot to kick their butts.....  and much more

Rowan did play a good game on D,,but were missing the Starting Qb on O and it showed at times,,,but a pretty good game to watch,,not to listen too.!!!

Hopefully we will be in Dover next week !!!
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Post by: beenhit2hard on November 18, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
We missed yesterday's game due to a previous commitment( a former players wedding) so we went to the Salisbury-Rowan game so we could get home in time, sat on the Rowan side ,,WOW. We thought we were in a reality tv segment of the Jersey Shore,,the language,the various threats to the officials,,a full length fur coat on one female fan,,a female who was telling the refs where to stick his flags when he threw them ,,and when he didn't,, 'A promise to meet the refs in the parking lot to kick their butts.....  and much more

Rowan did play a good game on D,,but were missing the Starting Qb on O and it showed at times,,,but a pretty good game to watch,,not to listen too.!!!

Hopefully we will be in Dover next week !!!
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Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2012, 09:42:26 AM
as usual very quiet here.  happy thanksgiving to all the wesley fans here.  enjoy the day, looks like the wind will be in effect this weekend with a little chill in the air.  still dont think it will have much of an impact on the game.  wesley should be able to run the ball if last weeks stats are any indication.  framingham rushed for well over 200 yards and if not for the 4 ints would have likely won the game.  if wesley had the top seed in the bracket i would likely go to the salisbury/widener game since i think that will be a little closer.  but, unfortunately this could be the last home game of the year and i would not be happy if i didnt see it live to get a feel for how they will do next week against umhb, if both teams win of course.
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Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2012, 08:14:13 PM
I didn't realize that this is the first ever meeting between Wesley and Cortland State, so another new team to watch!  I agree, if Wesley keeps the game clean, I don't see a problem for them to win.  When it comes to the post-season, the Wolverines don't mess around, so I can't see another NJAC upset like we have seen in the past.  It will be an intense game for sure.  High of 50 and some wind.....  At least we won't see another weather day like the Johns Hopkins game..... :-[

I'll see you all at the game!

-Ski

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Post by: Hawks88 on November 24, 2012, 12:25:55 PM
Kind of a rough start for Cortland there, huh? Yikes.
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Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2012, 03:23:57 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 24, 2012, 12:25:55 PM
Kind of a rough start for Cortland there, huh? Yikes.

Yeah, that was definitely a Jets 1st quarter for sure.  The Wesley defense was just crazy today!  They held Cortland to 66 yard rushing.  I think it was like 5 interceptions for the game.  Less so for Sottilare and the offense.   Sottilare was throwing cold and that really disrupted their rhythm early.   He did hit the big shots late, that is for sure.  So, Wesley will be challenged to win in Belton next week.  The defense is playing really well, but if the offense doesn't execute, then we will have the same quarterfinals we had 4 years ago.  Hopefully, the weather will be a bit warmer and Sottilare's passes will hit the mark and the offensive line will toughen up.

-Ski

 
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Post by: wesleydad on November 24, 2012, 04:28:15 PM
ugly first half, pretty good second half.  defense playing very well.  next week is going to be a good one.  offense has to make plays and it will all come down to how the o line does against the umhb d line.  -4 yds rushing in the first game and still had a chance to win in the end.  protect the ball and be able to run it a little and wesley surely has a chance.  make someone other than bailey beat them, which is easier said than done.  wesley knows what has to be done, they just have to go do it.  i have thought all year that umhb is the top team in the country and wesley is a top 4 team, time to show it.
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 24, 2012, 10:07:38 PM
Wesleydad pretty much summed up what has to happen on Saturday for us to win.  Gotta control and protect the ball, and stop the stupid penalties too.  Our defense will need to bring the same focus and intensity they showed today to contain Bailey and Wilson - they are just scary good.    Can't imagine what Bailey's numbers would be if he played deeper into more games this year.  Should be a great game on Saturday - would be kind of nice to close out their "old" stadium on a losing note.
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Post by: umhb2001 on November 24, 2012, 11:12:46 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 24, 2012, 10:07:38 PM
Wesleydad pretty much summed up what has to happen on Saturday for us to win.  Gotta control and protect the ball, and stop the stupid penalties too.  Our defense will need to bring the same focus and intensity they showed today to contain Bailey and Wilson - they are just scary good.    Can't imagine what Bailey's numbers would be if he played deeper into more games this year.  Should be a great game on Saturday - would be kind of nice to close out their "old" stadium on a losing note.

Yep, Bailey and Wilson are the real deal, but there is more to us than that. ASC defensive player of the year Javicz Jones is everywhere, Elijah Hudson and Dustin Frye pick up the slack when needed, and our pass D is really stepping up. The main thing I notice though is that Bailey is so in control this year. His feet are calm and under control, his progressions are sharp, and his poise is uncanny. It will be an exciting game.
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Post by: Teamski on November 25, 2012, 03:00:46 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on November 24, 2012, 11:12:46 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 24, 2012, 10:07:38 PM
Wesleydad pretty much summed up what has to happen on Saturday for us to win.  Gotta control and protect the ball, and stop the stupid penalties too.  Our defense will need to bring the same focus and intensity they showed today to contain Bailey and Wilson - they are just scary good.    Can't imagine what Bailey's numbers would be if he played deeper into more games this year.  Should be a great game on Saturday - would be kind of nice to close out their "old" stadium on a losing note.

Yep, Bailey and Wilson are the real deal, but there is more to us than that. ASC defensive player of the year Javicz Jones is everywhere, Elijah Hudson and Dustin Frye pick up the slack when needed, and our pass D is really stepping up. The main thing I notice though is that Bailey is so in control this year. His feet are calm and under control, his progressions are sharp, and his poise is uncanny. It will be an exciting game.

An exciting game for sure!  I think Wesley's play against 5 ranked opponents during the regular season will help them weather UMHB's storm.  Wesley doesn't play well early on and that was seen during the last meeting, and I think that they will be able to handle the Crusaders this time around.  If Sottilare stays poised, then Wesley will be set.  I know the secondary has been playing all over the ball and with Brandenburg's return, it is about as strong as I have seen it.  The key will be, as it was before, the establishment of the run game.  If Jahad and Robinsin can gain those precious yards early, then the offense will be able to open the game up.

Wesley has been here before:  A single loss team going to UMHB in the quarter finals.  It didn't work out too well for the Wolverines in 2008, but I don't see that happening again with the team staying pretty healthy so far. 

Regardless, it will be a choice game that won't disappoint.

-Ski
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Post by: DGPugh on November 25, 2012, 03:12:02 PM
Go Wesley

Get the job done

keep the faith
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Post by: wesleydad on November 25, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
took another look at the boxscore from the first game and i was surprised by some things.  wesley has more first downs and threw for 294 yards.  they were only 3 - 12 on 3rd down, umhb was 13 - 22 and i can remembering saying that the defense cant get off the field.  with that 3rd down efficiency it makes sense that umhb had the ball for close to 35 minutes.  i also remember that bailey escaped 2 sacks and turned them into td passes once he got outside the pocket.  bailey only ran for 34 yards on 10 carries so he doesnt look to run as often as past years.  sott was sacked 4 times which led to the negative rushing total.  jahad only had 1 carry for 0 yards.  after the game was over i felt that wesley had much more of an upside than umhb did.  i dont think they will be able to convert over 50% on 3rd down.  eventhough the umhb d line dominated most of the game i dont think they hold wesley to 26 yds rushing, took the liberty of removing the sack totals.  umhb played a pretty clean game and only won by 7, which if wesley makes pat's it was only 4.  i have felt after that game that umhb was possibly the best team in the country and that wesley had the chance to be later in the season.  well, it doesnt get any later than this.  quarter finals again for the 8th year in a row, now only mount can also say that i believe.  wesley can win this football game and it will not take a miracle, it will take a clean game from the offense and a pick or 2 from the defense.  the defense is playing better than they did in game 1 and i think the d line will get the job done better this time.  umhb will move the ball and get some nice runs.  make bailey beat you with his arm by keeping him in the pocket, which they did a pretty good job of in game 1, he was hit on both plays i mentioned earlier just not finished off.  wesley will have to run the ball some, the wont need 100 but 50 - 70 would be good.  they have to get off the field on 3rd downs, hold umhb under 40%.  no turnovers and few penalties, none stupid.  a lot of things will have to go right, but that is the case anytime you have to beat a very good team which umhb is.  finally, the game plan needs to be strong like last year, well at least in the first half it was.  wesley can win this game and after looking at the boxscore from the first game i am more optimistic than i was after saturday.  umhb gives up points and if wesley plays to their ability they will score, can the defense keep umhb under 30?, that is my magic number.  looking forward to watching this game on saturday.
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Post by: HScoach on November 25, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 25, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
........quarter finals again for the 8th year in a row, now only mount can also say that i believe.........

Nice streak Wesley has going there. 

FYI, the last time Mount failed to make at least the Semi-Final was 1994.   
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Post by: wesleydad on November 25, 2012, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 25, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 25, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
........quarter finals again for the 8th year in a row, now only mount can also say that i believe.........

Nice streak Wesley has going there. 

FYI, the last time Mount failed to make at least the Semi-Final was 1994.

well, if you guys weren't so selfish . . . .  :D  i know you would like to get another shot at umhb, but i think wesley might just put a hold on that revenge motive.
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Post by: umhb2001 on November 25, 2012, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 25, 2012, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 25, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 25, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
........quarter finals again for the 8th year in a row, now only mount can also say that i believe.........

Nice streak Wesley has going there. 

FYI, the last time Mount failed to make at least the Semi-Final was 1994.

well, if you guys weren't so selfish . . . .  :D  i know you would like to get another shot at umhb, but i think wesley might just put a hold on that revenge motive.

Of course! If they didn't, there'd be a problem.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: mr_mom on November 25, 2012, 10:32:19 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 25, 2012, 09:51:29 PM
well, if you guys weren't so selfish . . . .  :D  i know you would like to get another shot at umhb, but i think wesley might just put a hold on that revenge motive.

OK, W-Dad ... I have to come up with some spreads by Monday night.  What does Wesley have that can stop that Texan juggernaut?
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Post by: thewaterboy on November 25, 2012, 11:56:15 PM
Nicely summed up wesleydad. I think if Wesley comes out and plays a clean football game, they will win. Brandenburg has definitely revitalized the defense and is on FIRE on this playoff run, really exciting to watch. Sottilare was off with his passes early vs. Cortland, but he found a rhythm late. Hopefully that will translate to Belton.

The Cru is not destined to have their rematch with UMU quite yet. They have to get through Wesley who is no stranger to beating UMHB when it matters in recent years, home or away. Sottilare knows what it takes to beat MHB, the coaching staff knows what it takes. Most of this is vice versa from Mary Hardin Baylor's standpoint as well, but the last time UMHB has beaten Wesley when it counted was 2008 in Belton. The regular season doesnt count now. This week does.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 26, 2012, 12:21:04 AM
Altho' the 2012 regular season win of UMHB over Wesley is why this game is being played in Texas...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 26, 2012, 01:27:27 AM
True, but the point Im trying to make is that the regular season game was not a game that singularly determined the future of each team's season. It was an important game, but did not alter either team's playoff hopes.
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 26, 2012, 11:29:28 AM
Wesley's defense is much improved now vs the first meeting.  Don't forget that this is the first year Hopkins and Morris are playing defense, and that Westcott was out last year - all have gotten better and better during the season, as has the D as a whole.  I really think that if our offense had been able to control the ball better in the first meeting and given the D a little rest, the outcome would have been different.  Hard enough to contain that UMHB offense when you're fresh, much less after you've been on the field forever and playing on a short field.  It will be interesting to see if UMHB does anything on offense to limit our regular defensive substitutions.

Still not entirely convinced our offense has what it takes to win this one (sounds silly after the scores of the last two games), but if they can just play a clean game we have a really good shot.  Even though there are so many other receiving options now, Barile has to step up here.  Last year I loved how well he ran routes, his focus to make difficult catches, etc but something's been off with him most of this season.  He made a really nice catch on Saturday, but there were other plays when the effort and focus just didn't seem to be there.  Not sure if he's just not on the same page with Sott or what, but he's better than that and I'd hate for his career to end without him playing his best.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 26, 2012, 11:34:57 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 26, 2012, 01:27:27 AM
True, but the point Im trying to make is that the regular season game was not a game that singularly determined the future of each team's season. It was an important game, but did not alter either team's playoff hopes.

I guess in a way it did. As mentioned, UMHB isn't going to Dover this year.  Wesley is a team of two sides.  Every first half of a season, they really have some cobwebs to work out.  This year was no exception.  Jahad was hurt and thus he only had one run in the UMHB game.  Now that he is back, Wesley's run game has a bit more punch to it.  Not dominate, but enough to move the ball.  When Wesley lost to UMHB in 2008, they had lost Pennewell in the Muhlenburg game the week prior, and that left Wesley with a single facet offense, which lost to a humming Crusader team.  This year is a bit different.  No matter what, both teams will be playing some real hardball next week.  Easily the game of the week.

-Ski
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Post by: Hawks88 on November 26, 2012, 11:40:54 AM
Good luck to Wesley this weekend against UMHB. We will be pulling for whichever team wins this one to go all the way and win the Stagg Bowl as we play both next season. It would be cool to have the defending champ on our schedule. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 26, 2012, 02:26:26 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 26, 2012, 11:40:54 AM
Good luck to Wesley this weekend against UMHB. We will be pulling for whichever team wins this one to go all the way and win the Stagg Bowl as we play both next season. It would be cool to have the defending champ on our schedule.

Couldn't agree more that I hope whichever of us wins this one can win it all.  I think both teams feel that this should be "their" year, and one is certain to be heartbroken Saturday afternoon (here's to hoping it's not us!).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on November 26, 2012, 09:52:57 PM
Hawks "We will be pulling for whichever team wins this one to go all the way and win the Stagg Bowl as we play both next season. It would be cool to have the defending champ on our schedule. "

Amen ..Go Wesley

but who else we playing.. ??? is the schedule out ?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 27, 2012, 11:14:17 AM
Interesting....Christopher Newport is joining the Capital Athletic Conference.  Is this further proof that we will see the CAC sponsor football at some point in the future?  If Frostburg, Salisbury and Stevenson join in, we may well have another A Pool conference on the horizon.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 27, 2012, 11:19:17 AM
Quote from: Teamski on November 27, 2012, 11:14:17 AM
Interesting....Christopher Newport is joining the Capital Athletic Conference.  Is this further proof that we will see the CAC sponsor football at some point in the future?  If Frostburg, Salisbury and Stevenson join in, we may well have another A Pool conference on the horizon.....

-Ski

Here's our stories from the original announcement. Stevenson is no longer in the CAC.
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2012/06/southern-virginia-to-join-cac
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2012/02/cnu-withdraws-from-usac-for-cac
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on November 27, 2012, 02:28:07 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 26, 2012, 09:52:57 PM
Hawks "We will be pulling for whichever team wins this one to go all the way and win the Stagg Bowl as we play both next season. It would be cool to have the defending champ on our schedule. "

Amen ..Go Wesley

but who else we playing.. ??? is the schedule out ?
I haven't seen a published schedule yet but the other non-conference game besides UMHB(home) and Wesley(away) is Miss. College(away). As for the conference games, the majority voted to only play seven games the first year so some could honor existing contracts so we play everyone except CNU. We have Ferrum, NC Wesleyan, Methodist, and Maryville at home and Greensboro, LaGrange, and Averett away. Hopefully they have a decent tiebreaker set up in case there ends up a tie between teams who don't play each other. 
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Post by: Teamski on November 27, 2012, 03:33:13 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 27, 2012, 11:19:17 AM
Quote from: Teamski on November 27, 2012, 11:14:17 AM
Interesting....Christopher Newport is joining the Capital Athletic Conference.  Is this further proof that we will see the CAC sponsor football at some point in the future?  If Frostburg, Salisbury and Stevenson join in, we may well have another A Pool conference on the horizon.....

-Ski

Here's our stories from the original announcement. Stevenson is no longer in the CAC.
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2012/06/southern-virginia-to-join-cac
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2012/02/cnu-withdraws-from-usac-for-cac

I gotcha.... Ye Olde News......   ::)

-Ski
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Post by: DGPugh on November 27, 2012, 07:48:25 PM
Hawks
sounds Great

i thank Miss college is going to D2 (again) so they might also be a good game.

i hope we do well
keep the faith
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 28, 2012, 03:17:36 PM
Nice article in today's News Journal about Wesley's Kirk Brooks who was recently diagnosed with lymphoma.  Good news is it thankfully sounds like a full recovery is expected.  Hope he knows how many people are praying for him, how lucky we've been to get to see him play, and how much we appreciate all he's done for the program.  Not sure how well this link will work as they only allow so many non-paying views, but here it is.....

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20121128/SPORTS08/311280039/Brooks-after-diagnosis-Don-t-worry-about-me
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 28, 2012, 06:18:14 PM
Thanks for sharing DE wesleyfan
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Post by: Teamski on November 28, 2012, 07:25:52 PM
Well stated DE......

-Ski
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Post by: Hawks88 on November 28, 2012, 07:37:25 PM
Meant to reply here instead of the playoff thread but he'll be in our prayers. I remember that interception against HC was a terrific play.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 29, 2012, 10:32:35 PM
I think Askia Jahad summed it up best with his quote in today's News Journal "There's no secrets.  We've got to just punch them in the mouth.  They know what we're going to do, we know what they're going to do and we've just got to play ball."  Article also quoted Tim Putnam that the o-line was embarrassed by their earlier performance that allowed for negative rushing yards and they know they have to step up and be much tougher this time around.    Easy to say it - let's hope they can do it!
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Post by: umhb2001 on November 29, 2012, 10:52:48 PM
Safe travels to those coming tomorrow. Weather looks good for Saturday. Should be a great day. I'm expecting it to be.  ;)
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Post by: thewaterboy on November 30, 2012, 02:04:55 AM
I think a healthy Jahad will definitely help the Wolverines rushing attack. They wont run all over UMHB's D, but some running game is better than none. Wesley had none back in week 3 and still had a chance to win that football game.

Bailey will be interesting, if the Wesley D-line can put pressure on him, he will make a mistake. The Wolverine D has done a pretty good job compared to other teams of keeping him in check throughout his career. Lets see if they can be a little more effective than their week 3 performance now. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 30, 2012, 07:11:23 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 30, 2012, 02:04:55 AM
I think a healthy Jahad will definitely help the Wolverines rushing attack. They wont run all over UMHB's D, but some running game is better than none. Wesley had none back in week 3 and still had a chance to win that football game.

Bailey will be interesting, if the Wesley D-line can put pressure on him, he will make a mistake. The Wolverine D has done a pretty good job compared to other teams of keeping him in check throughout his career. Lets see if they can be a little more effective than their week 3 performance now.

Bailey is not making mistakes this year. 3 Int's with two coming off of receivers' hands. He has grown and matured greatly. And, after facing three great running attacks in the ASC, the D knows how to play. It will be exciting from the start for sure!
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Post by: thewaterboy on November 30, 2012, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on November 30, 2012, 07:11:23 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 30, 2012, 02:04:55 AM
I think a healthy Jahad will definitely help the Wolverines rushing attack. They wont run all over UMHB's D, but some running game is better than none. Wesley had none back in week 3 and still had a chance to win that football game.

Bailey will be interesting, if the Wesley D-line can put pressure on him, he will make a mistake. The Wolverine D has done a pretty good job compared to other teams of keeping him in check throughout his career. Lets see if they can be a little more effective than their week 3 performance now.

Bailey is not making mistakes this year. 3 Int's with two coming off of receivers' hands. He has grown and matured greatly. And, after facing three great running attacks in the ASC, the D knows how to play. It will be exciting from the start for sure!

Im not saying that the Wesley run game will kill the UMHB D, but -4 rushing yards will not get the job done. With Jahad healthy, some Wesley running game is better than none. Bailey will make a mistake, hes not perfect, and Wesley does a nice job of keeping him more down to earth than other teams. 16-26 for 138 through the air, and 10 for 34 yards on the ground. I would call that pretty "in check"
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Post by: wesleydad on November 30, 2012, 02:34:40 PM
figured i would just repost this since I think it spells out why I think wesley has a better than good chance of winning saturday.  UMHB was scoring at will last year and only got 24 on wesley.  I know that Bailey is better and makes a difference, I just think wesley can contain the offense better than they are being given credit for.  2 tackles made and UMHB only gets 24 at most in the first game.

Quote from: wesleydad on November 25, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
took another look at the boxscore from the first game and i was surprised by some things.  wesley has more first downs and threw for 294 yards.  they were only 3 - 12 on 3rd down, umhb was 13 - 22 and i can remembering saying that the defense cant get off the field.  with that 3rd down efficiency it makes sense that umhb had the ball for close to 35 minutes.  i also remember that bailey escaped 2 sacks and turned them into td passes once he got outside the pocket.  bailey only ran for 34 yards on 10 carries so he doesnt look to run as often as past years.  sott was sacked 4 times which led to the negative rushing total.  jahad only had 1 carry for 0 yards.  after the game was over i felt that wesley had much more of an upside than umhb did.  i dont think they will be able to convert over 50% on 3rd down.  eventhough the umhb d line dominated most of the game i dont think they hold wesley to 26 yds rushing, took the liberty of removing the sack totals.  umhb played a pretty clean game and only won by 7, which if wesley makes pat's it was only 4.  i have felt after that game that umhb was possibly the best team in the country and that wesley had the chance to be later in the season.  well, it doesnt get any later than this.  quarter finals again for the 8th year in a row, now only mount can also say that i believe.  wesley can win this football game and it will not take a miracle, it will take a clean game from the offense and a pick or 2 from the defense.  the defense is playing better than they did in game 1 and i think the d line will get the job done better this time.  umhb will move the ball and get some nice runs.  make bailey beat you with his arm by keeping him in the pocket, which they did a pretty good job of in game 1, he was hit on both plays i mentioned earlier just not finished off.  wesley will have to run the ball some, the wont need 100 but 50 - 70 would be good.  they have to get off the field on 3rd downs, hold umhb under 40%.  no turnovers and few penalties, none stupid.  a lot of things will have to go right, but that is the case anytime you have to beat a very good team which umhb is.  finally, the game plan needs to be strong like last year, well at least in the first half it was.  wesley can win this game and after looking at the boxscore from the first game i am more optimistic than i was after saturday.  umhb gives up points and if wesley plays to their ability they will score, can the defense keep umhb under 30?, that is my magic number.  looking forward to watching this game on saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 30, 2012, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 30, 2012, 02:34:40 PM
figured i would just repost this since I think it spells out why I think wesley has a better than good chance of winning saturday.  UMHB was scoring at will last year and only got 24 on wesley.  I know that Bailey is better and makes a difference, I just think wesley can contain the offense better than they are being given credit for.  2 tackles made and UMHB only gets 24 at most in the first game.

Quote from: wesleydad on November 25, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
took another look at the boxscore from the first game and i was surprised by some things.  wesley has more first downs and threw for 294 yards.  they were only 3 - 12 on 3rd down, umhb was 13 - 22 and i can remembering saying that the defense cant get off the field.  with that 3rd down efficiency it makes sense that umhb had the ball for close to 35 minutes.  i also remember that bailey escaped 2 sacks and turned them into td passes once he got outside the pocket.  bailey only ran for 34 yards on 10 carries so he doesnt look to run as often as past years.  sott was sacked 4 times which led to the negative rushing total.  jahad only had 1 carry for 0 yards.  after the game was over i felt that wesley had much more of an upside than umhb did.  i dont think they will be able to convert over 50% on 3rd down.  eventhough the umhb d line dominated most of the game i dont think they hold wesley to 26 yds rushing, took the liberty of removing the sack totals.  umhb played a pretty clean game and only won by 7, which if wesley makes pat's it was only 4.  i have felt after that game that umhb was possibly the best team in the country and that wesley had the chance to be later in the season.  well, it doesnt get any later than this.  quarter finals again for the 8th year in a row, now only mount can also say that i believe.  wesley can win this football game and it will not take a miracle, it will take a clean game from the offense and a pick or 2 from the defense.  the defense is playing better than they did in game 1 and i think the d line will get the job done better this time.  umhb will move the ball and get some nice runs.  make bailey beat you with his arm by keeping him in the pocket, which they did a pretty good job of in game 1, he was hit on both plays i mentioned earlier just not finished off.  wesley will have to run the ball some, the wont need 100 but 50 - 70 would be good.  they have to get off the field on 3rd downs, hold umhb under 40%.  no turnovers and few penalties, none stupid.  a lot of things will have to go right, but that is the case anytime you have to beat a very good team which umhb is.  finally, the game plan needs to be strong like last year, well at least in the first half it was.  wesley can win this game and after looking at the boxscore from the first game i am more optimistic than i was after saturday.  umhb gives up points and if wesley plays to their ability they will score, can the defense keep umhb under 30?, that is my magic number.  looking forward to watching this game on saturday.

Easier said than done. Bailey is illusive and can beat you with his arm. Two of his three INTs are from tips and one hung up in the wind here in Belton. The one area we may be weak is DB's. We've had some injuries and I'm not sure where those guys are in returning. Nothing was in the paper this week. If that is the case, I think we may blitz more to try and put pressure on the QB. Should be fun.
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 30, 2012, 04:52:04 PM
Heading to Austin tonight - can't wait for tomorrow.  Supposed to be almost 80 which will be a pleasant change from last week's wind and cold, though I don't care as long as the result is the same :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on November 30, 2012, 11:57:43 PM
Good luck to both teams tomorrow.  Should be a great game.  Two great teams and quality programs.  Lots of respect due to you both. Enjoy the game!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 01, 2012, 10:11:27 AM
Really hope the offense can take care of the ball today. A good clean game from them should put our D in position to do their thing and have a shot at containing LB.   
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Post by: rams1102 on December 01, 2012, 10:52:21 AM
Wesleydad,

By strictly looking at the numbers you guys S/B getting +16 points. Most of the poin ts come from the offensive numbers. I have you guys going to the Stagg in the D3 Poll. Don't let me down and no stupid penalities.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 11:34:47 AM
All of the pundits have Wesley losing quite handily to UMBH.  I think they are underestimating how well the Wesley defense is playing right now.  I don't see UMHB making 30 points in the game.  That said, if the offense doesn't execute, neither will Wesley. I have a feeling some pick-offs are going to happen to Bailey with the secondary playing as well as they are.   

The game is now 90 minutes away and the tension builds. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 01, 2012, 12:27:58 PM
Boys look ready!  Strong wind down here, should be interesting to see if that makes any difference. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 01:14:46 PM
ugly start on offense.  o line not getting it done.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 01:18:05 PM
real bad start.  team looks lost on both sides of ball.  hope they get it started or this will be ugly quickly.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 01:19:05 PM
Yeah, the offense failed to show up and the defense needs some time to adjust to the blocking schemes.  Not a good start at all..... :P

-Ski
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Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 01:24:05 PM
YEAH!!!!!   ;D  A nice TD.  They cannot afford to be one-dimensional, though.  Good run by Jahad....

-Ski
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Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 01:25:15 PM
thats better.  throw the ball over the top.  this team gives up points, go score them.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2012, 01:30:07 PM
only going to see 1st half,, watch for wesley good adjustments at half .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 01:32:03 PM
Looks like the defense has the interior taken care of.  Now they really need to assign somebody to Bailey on the spreads....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 01:32:12 PM
got to get off the field on 3rd down.  have to contain the pass rush to take away running lanes and make bailey throw the ball on 3rd and long.
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Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 01:37:34 PM
Nice hold on 3rd and goal.  I'll take a FG any day!  Well done D.

-Ski
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2012, 01:42:37 PM
running the ball well
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 01:44:26 PM
wonderful.... >:(
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Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 01:48:06 PM
take advantage of that break.  go in and take the lead, game changer right there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 01:48:59 PM
Leave it up to the defense!  Amazing!

-Ski
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Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 01:59:24 PM
Thanks Crusaders!  Boohyeah!  Kept the defense off the field and a run to cap it off!!   Gotta love football.  What a change of fortune.

-Ski
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Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 02:01:35 PM
Holy cow!   :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 02:04:33 PM
Jahad is doing exactly what I hoped he would do.  We didn't have him the last time around.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 02:08:36 PM
Uggh!  On that 2nd down play, they should have had Jahad go out on the flat for a screen.  The Cru had everybody on the inside...... Lost opportunity.

-Ski
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Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 02:11:16 PM
wanted the td there.  up 9 would have been nice.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 02:20:37 PM
I think that is going to hurt us!  Another lost opportunity.....   :-*  We could have been up 24-12. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 02:24:14 PM
game is going as i thought it would.  i did not think the cru would run all over wesley and with wesley being able to run the ball the defense is getting rest and they are bottling up the running game.  i will take my chances having bailey have to throw the ball to best wesley.  no td and blocked field goal may haunt them later, but i think if sot starts connecting on passes that look open wesley should be able to get at least 2 more scores which means the cru will need 3.  come out strong to start half on defense and go from there.
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Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 02:24:50 PM
I got to hand it to the defense.  They are on it so far.  They made their adjustments and now we will see what the Cru responds with.  Bailey with the spread was pretty nasty out there.  I expect to  see more of that.  The run is really helping out today on the offense. 

-Ski
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Post by: @d3jason on December 01, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
Wouldn't have taken this bet before the game Wesley out-rushing UMHB 71-66.
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Post by: dedragon on December 01, 2012, 02:31:46 PM
Interesting first half. I like the Wesley running game. It will open up more passes around the linebackers. UMHB looks a bit shell shocked, but that doesn't mean anything after half time adjustments. Wesley needs to keep doing what they are doing, clean up the special teams (sans kicking team), play the final 30 minutes tough and mean and this one will be in the bag. The Cru knows deep down that they have trouble when Wesley gets going, it is in their psyche.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 01, 2012, 02:34:01 PM
Feel good if we can contain Bailey the rest of the way and keep playing clean.  It's getting pretty toasty here compared to home,and the wind has stayed brisk.  Can't wait to see both sides adjustments and the dog fight that will be the second half.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 02:34:54 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on December 01, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
Wouldn't have taken this bet before the game Wesley out-rushing UMHB 71-66.

would not either, but figured they would be able to run it some.  no inside running game at all for the cru.  keep bailey in the pocket and make him throw the ball, passes not very good into the wind.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 02:40:42 PM
Quote from: dedragon on December 01, 2012, 02:31:46 PM
Interesting first half. I like the Wesley running game. It will open up more passes around the linebackers. UMHB looks a bit shell shocked, but that doesn't mean anything after half time adjustments. Wesley needs to keep doing what they are doing, clean up the special teams (sans kicking team), play the final 30 minutes tough and mean and this one will be in the bag. The Cru knows deep down that they have trouble when Wesley gets going, it is in their psyche.

Well stated.  This second half is an entirely new game.  Reset momentum.

-Ski
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Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 02:57:26 PM
And another defensive hold and offensive stall.... ::)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 03:01:14 PM
corners playing too soft, take away the short pass.  make bailey throw it long.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Desertraider on December 01, 2012, 03:04:24 PM
Do you have a score? Last I saw was 17-12 Wesley at the half. Can't get livestats to load. Final 72-17 Mount Union.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 03:11:55 PM
Quote from: desertraider on December 01, 2012, 03:04:24 PM
Do you have a score? Last I saw was 17-12 Wesley at the half. Can't get livestats to load. Final 72-17 Mount Union.

UMHB 18-17 threatening TD inside the 5.  Wesley's offense is completely stalled right now and the D is tired.  We've seen this before.

-Ski
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Post by: Hawks88 on December 01, 2012, 03:13:40 PM
Wow!
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Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 03:14:28 PM
r u kidding me, throw the ball up and hope.  such a bad play that turns out good.  time for the offense to get it going.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: cover2 on December 01, 2012, 03:16:29 PM
#1 for Wesley is a large human being.  Impressive specimen!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 03:27:58 PM
The lag is killing me!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 03:30:54 PM
throw the ball into the end zone.  disgrace.  another blocked kick.  great 4th down conversion wasted.  many opportunities wasted today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 03:33:14 PM
I don't understand the call myself.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 03:36:47 PM
What kind of tackle attempts are those?  Uggh!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 03:37:48 PM
So much for my under 30 score for the Crusaders..... Pfft!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 03:42:46 PM
Pass the ball!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 03:45:22 PM
And overthrows it AGAIN!!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pg04 on December 01, 2012, 03:45:44 PM
Oh! I thought they were going to score there... Another missed opportunity. Wesley has a lot of blame to place on themselves.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 03:47:02 PM
had chances.  sot did not make the playes today, receivers open for td's.  dru made the adjustments and wesley did not respond.  offense made little sense to me in the second half.  inside the 10 and dont throw into the end zone.  a good season, but wasted chances.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 03:48:59 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 01, 2012, 03:45:44 PM
Oh! I thought they were going to score there... Another missed opportunity. Wesley has a lot of blame to place on themselves.

Well, Sottilare is not throwing the ball well. McSweeney would have won this game simply by scrambling and creating new opportunities.  Oh well.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 03:51:05 PM
....and don't forget about poor tackling!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 01, 2012, 03:51:44 PM
Congrats to the Cru. Bailey was the difference again. Good luck in Alliance and represent the South proudly.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 01, 2012, 03:58:39 PM
Man thats deflating. Way too many missed scoring opportunities by Wesley because of lack of execution. You need to punch it into the endzone on the last drive, and on the turnovers by MHB. Shoulda, coulda, woulda.... Bailey was the difference, although Wesley did play a great first half, it just came apart in the second. We will see them next season. New QBs for both teams will be interesting.

Tackling was atrocious, and special teams, a lot of the blame lies there. Credit to MHB but there were plenty of self-inflicted Wesley mistakes.

MHB is a great team, IMO, they will be in Salem. Mount hasnt seen anyone yet in the playoffs or the regular season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2012, 03:59:30 PM
And that was that.  Another great season for Wesley nonetheless.  It is easy to slam them, but they are among the elite.  I wish they played up to their potential today.  We will see how the Crusaders will handle Mount Union.  I wish them the best of luck in knocking them off the block!  In the meantime, we await another season.....

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 01, 2012, 04:00:01 PM
I was gonna make the comment about playing in the wind, but then I remember y'all have wind in Dover, too!

UMHB just got it together in the second half... a missed red zone FG and three scoring drives. The 5th drive began in the shadows of the goal posts and ended in victory formation.

Quite a different team in the second half. They overcame the botched lateral. UMU will not be so forgiving.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2012, 04:02:32 PM
frustrating watching the offense fail to get it done again.  being able to run the ball should have opened up the passing game, but wesley didnt seem like they wanted to throw the ball downfield.  sot did not have a good game, but i have to question many of the calls inside the 10 in both halves of the game.  missed opporitunities at end of 1st half could have made this a completly different second half.  this is a good team, top 5 again, but just cant get over the hump.  the cru is also good, just dont think they are any better than wesley is, bailey made a couple of plays today and the coaches made the adjustments at the half better than the wesley coaches did.  shame, because they could have won today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 01, 2012, 04:08:14 PM
wesleydad, Wesley had a chance to make the lead 2 possessions and couldnt. That was the biggest factor of the game IMO...

Another Wesley class comes and goes. Ill really miss this group, and it was great getting to know all of them. Cummings, Sott, Jahad, all of them. Will have some great stories from when they played for sure. Best of luck to them, and I hope they stick around the program.

You can question many things in the game of football. Playcalling, penalties, personnel, etc. but one thing that can never be questioned by anyone is the heart and tenacity that this Wesley College Football team had this season (and every season). They never quit, never gave up, and at the end of the day, that is what you hang your hat on.

Both teams really should have won this week. IMO, this was Salem. MHB is the most talented team left in the field.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 01, 2012, 04:21:56 PM
Congratulations to Wesley on a great season. And the best to all seniors who will now be moving on. Without a doubt, they have a lifetime and memories and friendships to look forward to.  It won't be long before the disappointment of today fades and the experience of being at Wesley will be cherished for the rest of their lives. Wesley fans, you have a lot for which you can be proud. You have earned the respect of the entire country.

And when you hear that from a UW-W fan,  you know it's true. Wesleydad knows what I'm talking about.. ;)  But hatchets are buried.  Now let's go back to work and meet again in the semi's, OK???
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on December 01, 2012, 05:01:10 PM
Great game today Wesley! After the blocked FG and we fumbled it, we really were deflated offensively. I think our D really showed up and played a great game and picked up our O. Stopping y'all in the RedZone and being able to ward off the TD really helped. I think we really helped ourselves out when we got pressure on Sottilare. Jahad is a stud! That guy was running hard and was worrying me. He really brought it to the Cru but I didn't feel the same emotion from the rest of the Wesley team.

It will be great to see y'all again next year as you come to our HOME stadium. Great opponent, great players, great team!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 01, 2012, 06:46:12 PM
Beat ourselves as much as they beat us.  Bailey is unbelievable and I hope he runs all over Mt U next week.  Proud of the year Wesley had, and as we've sadly become accustomed to saying...."Maybe next year"...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on December 01, 2012, 10:27:37 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on December 01, 2012, 06:46:12 PM
Beat ourselves as much as they beat us.  Bailey is unbelievable and I hope he runs all over Mt U next week.  Proud of the year Wesley had, and as we've sadly become accustomed to saying...."Maybe next year"...

We've said it the last two years.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2012, 07:39:14 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 01, 2012, 04:21:56 PM
Congratulations to Wesley on a great season. And the best to all seniors who will now be moving on. Without a doubt, they have a lifetime and memories and friendships to look forward to.  It won't be long before the disappointment of today fades and the experience of being at Wesley will be cherished for the rest of their lives. Wesley fans, you have a lot for which you can be proud. You have earned the respect of the entire country.

And when you hear that from a UW-W fan,  you know it's true. Wesleydad knows what I'm talking about.. ;)  But hatchets are buried.  Now let's go back to work and meet again in the semi's, OK???

bleed, thanks for the sentiment.  8 years to at least the region final is pretty good.  just frustrating that they have not been able to make the stagg.  they have only lost to mount, uww, and umhb in the playoffs, not to shabby to say the least.  would love to meet uww in the semis again, much prefer it to be at the stagg though.  good luck to you guys again next year.  oshkosh is showing the wiac to be more than a 1 trick pony.  had them going to salem to play wesley, so if they win next week i had at least 1 team correct.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 03, 2012, 04:03:27 PM
Looking back, I think the LiDarral Bailey flip touchdown pass was the back breaker for Wesley. Should have had a sack but LDB hit the moneyball and put it perfectly where his reciever could catch it, intentionally or not. It was just a sign that everything was going to go UMHB's way the rest of the game...and it did.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2012, 04:26:40 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 03, 2012, 04:03:27 PM
Looking back, I think the LiDarral Bailey flip touchdown pass was the back breaker for Wesley. Should have had a sack but LDB hit the moneyball and put it perfectly where his reciever could catch it, intentionally or not. It was just a sign that everything was going to go UMHB's way the rest of the game...and it did.

I just hope that Bailey can play like that against MU without too many mistakes.  I want to see the Crusaders win this one.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2012, 05:07:21 PM
There were several of those moments where I think the tide would have turned for us if we'd been able to corral Bailey better - even thinking back to their first or second drive when Morris had him in his sights but he wiggled away.  Great players make great plays in the big games, and he certainly did.  Couldn't agree more with Ski - hope he does more of the same on Saturday to end Mt. Union's year.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2012, 07:19:22 PM
the only thing good about that play is that it worked.  glad i got to see the opposite end zone shot, makes it look even worse/luckier than i thought it was.  if the d back stays were he was it is likely picked off and possibly returned for a td.  it was a prayer that was answered, a 1 in 10 chance and i wam sure as the play was happening his coach was saying no, no, NO, YES great play.  wesley should have had the game in hand at that point had they scored when they had the chance to.  umhb will have to play a better game than that to win saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 03, 2012, 07:53:18 PM
Dad:  Check your PM's
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 03, 2012, 09:36:15 PM
got it, replied back to you.  hope i answered your questions.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2012, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 03, 2012, 07:19:22 PM
the only thing good about that play is that it worked.  glad i got to see the opposite end zone shot, makes it look even worse/luckier than i thought it was.  if the d back stays were he was it is likely picked off and possibly returned for a td.  it was a prayer that was answered, a 1 in 10 chance and i wam sure as the play was happening his coach was saying no, no, NO, YES great play.  wesley should have had the game in hand at that point had they scored when they had the chance to.  umhb will have to play a better game than that to win saturday.

Agree that they'll have to play a much cleaner game this week.  You're right that Wesley should have had it locked up before then - but good teams just have that way of not letting you capitalize, of not letting you play your game.   I'd equate it somewhat to our game at LC - thought they played an overall better game but we just made the vital plays when they had to be made.  In the end, the things that killed us Saturday were the same things we'd struggled with all year.   Hopefully the coaches will learn from some of their mistakes, and the returning players learn from theirs to come back stronger next year. 

We sure had a blast following the team around this year - got to visit some interesting places, see some wonderful sights, and meet really nice people.  I hope those young men had some memorable experiences and enjoyed it even half as much.  Not the ending any of us wanted, but certainly a fun ride and I'm grateful to have had the opportunity. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 03, 2012, 11:14:33 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2012, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 03, 2012, 07:19:22 PM
the only thing good about that play is that it worked.  glad i got to see the opposite end zone shot, makes it look even worse/luckier than i thought it was.  if the d back stays were he was it is likely picked off and possibly returned for a td.  it was a prayer that was answered, a 1 in 10 chance and i wam sure as the play was happening his coach was saying no, no, NO, YES great play.  wesley should have had the game in hand at that point had they scored when they had the chance to.  umhb will have to play a better game than that to win saturday.

Agree that they'll have to play a much cleaner game this week.  You're right that Wesley should have had it locked up before then - but good teams just have that way of not letting you capitalize, of not letting you play your game.   I'd equate it somewhat to our game at LC - thought they played an overall better game but we just made the vital plays when they had to be made.  In the end, the things that killed us Saturday were the same things we'd struggled with all year.   Hopefully the coaches will learn from some of their mistakes, and the returning players learn from theirs to come back stronger next year. 

We sure had a blast following the team around this year - got to visit some interesting places, see some wonderful sights, and meet really nice people.  I hope those young men had some memorable experiences and enjoyed it even half as much.  Not the ending any of us wanted, but certainly a fun ride and I'm grateful to have had the opportunity.
Respectfully, the "Wesley nation/fandom" says the same thing every year about Week #14 or #15 and after every loss or near-defeat.

I almost think that it is cultural in the Wesley Program.  "Ya dance with the one who brung ya."  You either blow someone away in finest Dancin' with the Stars fashion or your toes get stomped on!

Wesley's "culture" is different from the MIAC or WIAC or Linfield or Hobart.  I think that Wesley does so well against the ASC because in many ways, we dance to the same tune!  As for UMU, they have their own culture, and it is amazing to behold.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 04, 2012, 01:59:47 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 03, 2012, 11:14:33 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2012, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 03, 2012, 07:19:22 PM
the only thing good about that play is that it worked.  glad i got to see the opposite end zone shot, makes it look even worse/luckier than i thought it was.  if the d back stays were he was it is likely picked off and possibly returned for a td.  it was a prayer that was answered, a 1 in 10 chance and i wam sure as the play was happening his coach was saying no, no, NO, YES great play.  wesley should have had the game in hand at that point had they scored when they had the chance to.  umhb will have to play a better game than that to win saturday.

Agree that they'll have to play a much cleaner game this week.  You're right that Wesley should have had it locked up before then - but good teams just have that way of not letting you capitalize, of not letting you play your game.   I'd equate it somewhat to our game at LC - thought they played an overall better game but we just made the vital plays when they had to be made.  In the end, the things that killed us Saturday were the same things we'd struggled with all year.   Hopefully the coaches will learn from some of their mistakes, and the returning players learn from theirs to come back stronger next year. 

We sure had a blast following the team around this year - got to visit some interesting places, see some wonderful sights, and meet really nice people.  I hope those young men had some memorable experiences and enjoyed it even half as much.  Not the ending any of us wanted, but certainly a fun ride and I'm grateful to have had the opportunity.
Respectfully, the "Wesley nation/fandom" says the same thing every year about Week #14 or #15 and after every loss or near-defeat.

I almost think that it is cultural in the Wesley Program.  "Ya dance with the one who brung ya."  You either blow someone away in finest Dancin' with the Stars fashion or your toes get stomped on!Wesley's "culture" is different from the MIAC or WIAC or Linfield or Hobart.  I think that Wesley does so well against the ASC because in many ways, we dance to the same tune!  As for UMU, they have their own culture, and it is amazing to behold.

I thought this year was a little different in that we had so many close regular season games, due to the scheduling of tougher teams.  Was hoping that would lead to improved play, and give us the physical and mental toughness needed to make it over the hump in the playoffs but it just didn't happen.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 04, 2012, 04:00:22 PM
Thanks DE WesleyFan.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 04, 2012, 10:45:28 PM
 Sometimes things just don't happen the way we see them coming together. Doesn't mean the talents not there. Injuries we don't here about can have an impact. Sometimes the other team is better and sometimes you just lose!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on December 06, 2012, 12:03:33 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 04, 2012, 10:45:28 PM
Sometimes things just don't happen the way we see them coming together. Doesn't mean the talents not there. Injuries we don't here about can have an impact. Sometimes the other team is better and sometimes you just lose!

Only one team can be the champ,,31 other entered and tried but go home sad,,it is a tough way to end a season, but it happens to all teams ,,even MUC/UMU,,.
On another note,, how is the back ,,still good ??
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 06, 2012, 04:42:48 PM
beenhit2hard 

the back is holding on so far. thanks for asking
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 10, 2012, 10:36:33 AM
As we wait for the Stagg bowl on Friday, I was thinking about the QB situation at Wesley. This next year is going to be a big question mark.  We have Callihan coming back from a red shirt season with next to no in-game experience.  I think I saw him once at the end of a game last season.  The coaches swear by his passing capabilities and yet we really know nothing about him.  That will be just one major issue.  I know we lost the O-line seniors this year as well.  So, is next year another building year for the team?  I know we are getting some great guys back on both sides of the ball.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 10, 2012, 01:54:04 PM
Two guys that come to mind on the roster that were out this year were Duke Herald and Brandon Wright. Wesley is going to have a good secondary if Herald returns, and Wright is just as good a runner as Jahad.

So theres some upside. Dont know much about Callahan though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 10, 2012, 08:37:52 PM
I really liked what I saw from Callahan last Spring. He has a cannon. He was very impressive as a freshman during his first camp in the Widener scrimmage in 2010.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 11, 2012, 01:23:33 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on December 10, 2012, 08:37:52 PM
I really liked what I saw from Callahan last Spring. He has a cannon. He was very impressive as a freshman during his first camp in the Widener scrimmage in 2010.

I agree.  Saw him play quite a bit last year at Apprentice and was impressed (or do we now call that year before last??).  Threw a beautiful, tight, rocket of a ball.  Don't recall him being particularly mobile, but wasn't much reason for him to pull out all the stops for that game.  I remember thinking at the time that he could have given Justin a run for the job this year.

The O-line is more concerning to me, since some of this year's starters were questionable themselves.  Hopefully there are some young kids ready to step up. They had a freshman this year from St. Georges (high school here in DE) that was pretty darn good at that level, so hopefully he's been working hard and can contribute soon.

Already can't wait for next year.  Anyone know if it's true Rowan is back on the schedule? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 12, 2012, 10:29:29 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on December 10, 2012, 08:37:52 PM
I really liked what I saw from Callahan last Spring. He has a cannon. He was very impressive as a freshman during his first camp in the Widener scrimmage in 2010.

The key is if he can scramble or not.  That really hurt Wesley this year, probably more than anything.   McSweeny opened up a ton of opportunities for the offense and those opportunities were lost in the UMHB game....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 13, 2012, 07:14:40 AM
Burke's scrambling and designed runs really hurt MHB in the semi-final game too.   I find it odd that a defense that practices against an offense with that much athleticism is prone to being beat by a running QB. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 13, 2012, 10:56:38 PM
heading to the stagg again.  not sure how many years it has been, just hope that wesley gets there sooner or later.  if you have never been you need to make the trip just for the fun of it.  maybe next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 14, 2012, 11:02:14 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 13, 2012, 10:56:38 PM
heading to the stagg again.  not sure how many years it has been, just hope that wesley gets there sooner or later.  if you have never been you need to make the trip just for the fun of it.  maybe next year.

Have a fun (and safe) trip.  Very much hope to make it one year soon, but am refusing to go until Wesley is playing :) Will be sure to watch it though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 14, 2012, 10:50:22 PM
de wesley, then you may never get there.  wesley may not get over the hump, the talent is there, question is why cant they win the big game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 15, 2012, 12:19:28 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 14, 2012, 10:50:22 PM
de wesley, then you may never get there.  wesley may not get over the hump, the talent is there, question is why cant they win the big game?

Would love to know the answer to that question!  I'm keeping the faith that will happen someday, though would be surprised if it were next year unless there are some secret weapons we don't yet know about.  I honestly thought that last year (McSweeney's senior year) was when it should have happened - still can't really explain how we got so close but just couldn't do it, receivers dropping balls all over the place, etc.  I think in prior years ill-timed injuries have been at least a part of it, though I'm sure almost every team has had to deal with them and don't want to use it as an excuse.    From the start of this year I wasn't quite as positive as some others here, just because of what I perceived as a lack of leadership on the offensive side, but hoped I was wrong.

And you know what?  Even if we don't ever get there, I wouldn't trade all this fun and excitement for most anything else.  It's a blast to get to watch those young men grow and mature over their years with the program, to see some local talent get a chance to play at the college level, to catch up with old friends at the start of each season, and to meet some really cool people on these boards or at road games.  Coach Drass has done a great job of building a respectable program, and I do have faith that one year the stars will be properly aligned, we'll get to the big game, and the victory will be all the sweeter.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 15, 2012, 01:19:08 PM
We are going to have some weapons back on both sides of the ball. On the roster, there was Dominique Herald. If he returns next season IMO, we will have one of the best secondaries in Division III. Morris, Jones, Herald, Hopkins. Brandon Wright was also injured this year. It will be interesting to see if he can stay healthy next season, because when he is, he is a stud. The D-line is going to be better and keep growing. The o-line may be about the same, which is a concern losing Putman and Cranmer.
Callahan looks to be next in line at QB and have heard nothing but good things. Im optimistic for next year and hopefully they can get it together before another rematch with MHB in Belton in week 3.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on February 08, 2013, 10:55:33 AM
Wolverines have a 10-game schedule complete for 2013. It will be released on Sunday so I won't put it out there yet. But there are six home games! (And some long road trips of course.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on February 10, 2013, 11:20:12 PM
At the request of Pa Wesleyfan

Here it is:
S6 Widener          6 pm
S14 Salisbury.      1 pm
S21 at UMHB         7 pm
S28  at BSC.          1 pm
O5   Huntingdon.     1pm Homecoming
O12. Va-Lynchburg   1 pm
        at Rowan
        Menlo
        at UNC - Charlotte
        Alfred state

I forget when the off week is and later dates and times and don't want to run downstairs right now so I ll edit later. Certainly another challenging slate for the Wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on February 11, 2013, 12:10:46 AM
Looking forward to seeing you guys in Belton, glad to hear yall got a full 10 game schedule.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 11, 2013, 12:13:20 AM
Thanks Jason!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on February 11, 2013, 02:25:30 PM
Homecoming, huh?  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 12, 2013, 08:29:01 PM
Wow no Apprentice school this year!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 21, 2013, 01:01:55 AM
 UNC Charlotte is a first year FBS football program!!  This oughta be interesting!  Belated, I know, but thanks for posting the schedule!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on February 25, 2013, 04:32:39 PM
Thanks - now I can start planning my fall schedule :)  Nice to not have to travel quite so much this year, but am sad to see Apprentice go even though that hasn't been a competitive game lately.  Have to say I hate having an important game against a solid opponent for Homecoming - way too many distractions.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 26, 2013, 11:18:03 AM
Quote from: Teamski on February 21, 2013, 01:01:55 AM
UNC Charlotte is a first year FBS football program!!  This oughta be interesting!  Belated, I know, but thanks for posting the schedule!

-Ski

Hope Wesley is getting a good payday to head up that way.   ;)

That said, a first year program, even one in FBS, will be full of underweight (for D1) freshmen and sophomores who are just trying to figure things out.  A quality senior-junior laden team like Wesley, where the guys have been hitting the weights in a major way for years, should be darned competitive.

Don't forget what (then D3) McMurry did at first-year UT-San Antonio (http://www.d3football.com/notables/2011/09/week2-mcmurry-beats-utsa) before 30+K a couple of years back.   UNC-C's coach has no head coaching experience (10 yr assistant at Wake Forest) and it's going to take HIM a while to figure things out, too.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on March 01, 2013, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 26, 2013, 11:18:03 AM
Hope Wesley is getting a good payday to head up that way.   ;)

No doubt the funding gained from the Charleston Southern game was a nice incentive to do it again.  This last season would have been impossible without it.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 17, 2013, 04:01:52 PM
The Schedule is up on the  wesley football site. looks like another tough one. back to back long road trips
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on March 18, 2013, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on March 17, 2013, 04:01:52 PM
The Schedule is up on the  wesley football site. looks like another tough one. back to back long road trips

Par for the course.  It will be a very interesting year with a new QB.  I'm not used to that!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on March 24, 2013, 02:16:39 AM
It will be cool to have a night game, but it's a shame it's on a Friday night instead of a Saturday night.  Puts it in competition with all the local high school games.  Should be an interesting year.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on March 24, 2013, 09:12:20 AM
hey all, glad to see that there is some chatter.  schedule looks good.  surprised to see widener on it.  will be competitive with some nice games at home.  looks like I wont have to make as many road trips as I have in the past couple of years.  Not happy about the Friday night game either, but will have to attend to see what they look like early.  umhb than back to Birm South will be tough. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on March 29, 2013, 09:14:25 AM
Looking at the pictures from spring camp, is it just me or does it look like Callahan has gotten bigger (or maybe he just had lots of layers on since it was cold)?  That would certainly be a good thing, I think, as he was pretty thin before. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 04, 2013, 10:10:32 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on March 29, 2013, 09:14:25 AM
Looking at the pictures from spring camp, is it just me or does it look like Callahan has gotten bigger (or maybe he just had lots of layers on since it was cold)?  That would certainly be a good thing, I think, as he was pretty thin before.

You know that once a player is shortlisted to a starting position, he usually steps it up in the weight room!  I'm sure Callahan is getting the job done.  Except for the reputation for his arm, we really know very little about him.  It will be interesting to see how he compares to the polarizing  McSweeney and Sottilaire........

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on April 11, 2013, 01:33:22 PM
New schedule posted by Huntingdon. Three challenging non-conference games. Looking forward to getting it started.

September   
Sat   14    at Mississippi Col.          6:00 PM   
Sat   21    Louisiana Col                 1:00 PM   
Sat   28    Ferrum *                        1:00 PM   
October   
Sat   5     at Wesley                      11:00 AM   
Sat   12    at Greensboro *          11:00 AM   
Sat   19    at LaGrange *              5:00 PM   
Sat   26    N.C. Wesleyan *          1:00 PM   
November   
Sat   2    at Averett *                  12:00 PM   
Sat   9    Methodist *                   1:00 PM   
Sat   16   Maryville (Tenn.) *        1:00 PM
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on June 04, 2013, 05:51:59 AM
Quote from: Teamski on April 04, 2013, 10:10:32 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on March 29, 2013, 09:14:25 AM
Looking at the pictures from spring camp, is it just me or does it look like Callahan has gotten bigger (or maybe he just had lots of layers on since it was cold)?  That would certainly be a good thing, I think, as he was pretty thin before.

You know that once a player is shortlisted to a starting position, he usually steps it up in the weight room!  I'm sure Callahan is getting the job done.  Except for the reputation for his arm, we really know very little about him.  It will be interesting to see how he compares to the polarizing  McSweeney and Sottilaire........

-Ski

I wonder if he's more similar to Sottlaire than McSweeney. I know he's a winner, he lead his high school team to a state championship. However, if he is more like McSweeney, then this could be trouble for everyteam that plays Wesley this upcoming season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on June 04, 2013, 08:33:32 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on April 11, 2013, 01:33:22 PM
New schedule posted by Huntingdon. Three challenging non-conference games. Looking forward to getting it started.

September   
Sat   14    at Mississippi Col.          6:00 PM   
Sat   21    Louisiana Col                 1:00 PM   
Sat   28    Ferrum *                        1:00 PM   
October   
Sat   5     at Wesley                      11:00 AM   
Sat   12    at Greensboro *          11:00 AM   
Sat   19    at LaGrange *              5:00 PM   
Sat   26    N.C. Wesleyan *          1:00 PM   
November   
Sat   2    at Averett *                  12:00 PM   
Sat   9    Methodist *                   1:00 PM   
Sat   16   Maryville (Tenn.) *        1:00 PM

Bummer. I thought the rumor was UMHB was coming to town. Was definitely going to make it down for that game. Maybe I'll make the LC game, though I don't know if my wife will let me go 2 weeks in a row and Wesley is at BSC on 9/28. That one is a little closer for me...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on June 04, 2013, 11:06:34 AM
Hero and D3Guru (jknezek)
holler and we will buy u a cola at the LC game
i pray you and yours are well
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on June 04, 2013, 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on June 04, 2013, 11:06:34 AM
Hero and D3Guru (jknezek)
holler and we will buy u a cola at the LC game
i pray you and yours are well
keep the faith

There are better guys on this board for this title than me! But I might take you up on that cola. Can't complain about the family. I'm thinking they'll be old enough to take them and the motorhome over to BSC for the Wesley game since if you get there early enough you can park above the field and watch the game from the hilltop. That would make me a single again for the LC game, but there are worse places to see a game, and not many better people to watch with, than the back of the endzone crowd I enjoyed last year at Huntingdon. Have to remember to bring my chair this year!

Hope all is well with you and, while I'm not in a rush to get through summer, I am looking forward to another year of D3 football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on June 04, 2013, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 04, 2013, 08:33:32 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on April 11, 2013, 01:33:22 PM
New schedule posted by Huntingdon. Three challenging non-conference games. Looking forward to getting it started.

September   
Sat   14    at Mississippi Col.          6:00 PM   
Sat   21    Louisiana Col                 1:00 PM   
Sat   28    Ferrum *                        1:00 PM   
October   
Sat   5     at Wesley                      11:00 AM   
Sat   12    at Greensboro *          11:00 AM   
Sat   19    at LaGrange *              5:00 PM   
Sat   26    N.C. Wesleyan *          1:00 PM   
November   
Sat   2    at Averett *                  12:00 PM   
Sat   9    Methodist *                   1:00 PM   
Sat   16   Maryville (Tenn.) *        1:00 PM

Bummer. I thought the rumor was UMHB was coming to town. Was definitely going to make it down for that game. Maybe I'll make the LC game, though I don't know if my wife will let me go 2 weeks in a row and Wesley is at BSC on 9/28. That one is a little closer for me...
I'm pretty sure the UMHB thing was true at one point. I don't know what happened. My guess is that maybe LC needed a 10th game and that matching open date was the only practical option they had and were able to work with UMHB to find another game? Just speculating so that may not even be in the ballpark. Looking forward to some football though. Hope to see you at a game.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on June 23, 2013, 09:03:04 AM
I might end up missing the vast majority of my Wesley games this season.   :'(  My Masters classes are all on Saturday!!  This will suck.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on June 24, 2013, 09:12:44 AM
Quote from: Teamski on June 23, 2013, 09:03:04 AM
I might end up missing the vast majority of my Wesley games this season.   :'(  My Masters classes are all on Saturday!!  This will suck.

-Ski

Hopefully, some will be on video (archived) so that you can watch the replay. Also, Good Luck this upcoming semester with your classes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bman on June 24, 2013, 04:02:07 PM
Quote from: Teamski on June 23, 2013, 09:03:04 AM
I might end up missing the vast majority of my Wesley games this season.   :'(  My Masters classes are all on Saturday!!  This will suck.

-Ski
Where are your priorities man?   ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on June 25, 2013, 07:53:20 AM
Quote from: Teamski on June 23, 2013, 09:03:04 AM
I might end up missing the vast majority of my Wesley games this season.   :'(  My Masters classes are all on Saturday!!  This will suck.

-Ski

Teamski,

I earned my masters several years ago going to class in Friday evenings and Saturdays for
quite awhile. It worked out well except for the fall.

What will Wesley have going into the fall, do they several key positions to fill other than QB? :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on June 25, 2013, 12:31:12 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on June 25, 2013, 07:53:20 AM
Quote from: Teamski on June 23, 2013, 09:03:04 AM
I might end up missing the vast majority of my Wesley games this season.   :'(  My Masters classes are all on Saturday!!  This will suck.

-Ski

What will Wesley have going into the fall, do they several key positions to fill other than QB? :-\

IMHO from watching them play, they seem to be different depending on whom they have, I may be wrong, I am sure some Wesley guys can elaborate or differ. I think they're going to utilize their talent to its fullest potential and compete for a national title. Wesley stays stacked with talented players and the coaches do a great job with using the play calling based on that talent.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on July 01, 2013, 09:30:51 PM
Quote from: bman on June 24, 2013, 04:02:07 PM
Quote from: Teamski on June 23, 2013, 09:03:04 AM
I might end up missing the vast majority of my Wesley games this season.   :'(  My Masters classes are all on Saturday!!  This will suck.

-Ski
Where are your priorities man?   ::)

Yeah, pretty screwed up, hey?  In addition to taking at least two masters classes, I will be teaching two classes at Wesley in the fall as well as a second job.  It will be interesting to say the least.  Anyways, maybe I will be lucky and land a Friday night class and a Saturday morning  one that will clear me for my 1PM rendezvous with destiny!

As far as challenges, Wesley has some big shoes to fill on both sides of the ball.    We ask this every year:  Who will replace the likes of Bryan Robinson, Larry Beavers, Chris Warrick, Chris Mayes, Ellis Krout, Shane McSweeny etc, etc, etc....?  But, somehow, the Wolverines finds new talent that continues to amaze.  This year will be like any other with new players stepping up.  I suppose it is the perennial fortune of deep teams that the eagerness of those waiting in the wings to play comes to shines bright when they finally get to show their stuff.

-Ski

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on July 24, 2013, 10:08:35 AM
Quote from: Teamski on July 01, 2013, 09:30:51 PM
Quote from: bman on June 24, 2013, 04:02:07 PM
Quote from: Teamski on June 23, 2013, 09:03:04 AM
I might end up missing the vast majority of my Wesley games this season.   :'(  My Masters classes are all on Saturday!!  This will suck.

-Ski
Where are your priorities man?   ::)

Yeah, pretty screwed up, hey?  In addition to taking at least two masters classes, I will be teaching two classes at Wesley in the fall as well as a second job.  It will be interesting to say the least.  Anyways, maybe I will be lucky and land a Friday night class and a Saturday morning  one that will clear me for my 1PM rendezvous with destiny!

As far as challenges, Wesley has some big shoes to fill on both sides of the ball.    We ask this every year:  Who will replace the likes of Bryan Robinson, Larry Beavers, Chris Warrick, Chris Mayes, Ellis Krout, Shane McSweeny etc, etc, etc....?  But, somehow, the Wolverines finds new talent that continues to amaze.  This year will be like any other with new players stepping up.  I suppose it is the perennial fortune of deep teams that the eagerness of those waiting in the wings to play comes to shines bright when they finally get to show their stuff.

-Ski

Same for the Cru. Big holes to fill on both sides. That opening game in our new stadium will be electric. Packed house, new season, questions for both teams, new stadium...GREAT DRAMA for the South's top teams. Video feed should be better than the past with replays.

Any of you looking to get back down here for the game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 24, 2013, 10:39:34 AM
Me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on July 24, 2013, 11:55:46 PM
That's great! If you get in a couple days in advance, Tweet at me, FB me, or hit me up on here and I'll take ya to some good BBQ.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 09, 2013, 04:31:48 PM
Any news out of Wesley Camp?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on August 13, 2013, 01:40:38 PM
Looks like our two schools will be looking to prepare in two different ways.

Wesley takes on two ranked teams at home while UMHB takes on two unranked but quality opponents on the road: traveling to Redlands, in California, and Kean, in NJ. Both places will be looking to get a bite into the Cru as we have dealt each a loss. I don't know what their home games are like, but I can bet that they will be raucous and ready for a fight.

Hopefully we can both come out unscathed and ready for a grudge match to open up the new Crusader Stadium. The turf is basically down with the logo going on yesterday and the home side turf ready to be completed. Take a look at the website for the latest video.

I know we have some holes at QB and LB that need to be filled. What does Wesley have coming into the season?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 17, 2013, 08:22:24 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on August 09, 2013, 04:31:48 PM
Any news out of Wesley Camp?

Nothing really new, but I did run into Kapepula on Thursday at Wesley and he is really excited for this year.   He is entering his Junior year and will undoubtedly continue to cause quarterbacks some serious problems.   I was also checking out the new faces in line for the chow hall and I have to say that I was really impressed by what I saw. There were some serious athletes in that line!  Of course, you can never tell for sure how they will work out by the start of the season, but I back what I mentioned above about Wesley's uncanny ability to scout and keep talented players.  It will never cease to amaze me. 

Now to cry in my pillow over all of those games I am going to miss this season.....   :'(  I will miss my first  home game in 7 years.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on August 30, 2013, 09:29:50 PM
One more week!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 03, 2013, 11:37:32 AM
I know I am look way, way, way ahead, but Charlotte put a monkey stomp on Campbell. http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?id=332432429
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 03, 2013, 03:46:12 PM
That will be an interesting game. Charlotte plays Chowan this week whom Wesley used to batter for years before they moved up to D-II. Maybe that gives us a better read on the game though the Wolverines haven't played Chowan in about 10 years. Charlotte plays I-FCS Charleston Southern the week before Wesley. The Wolverines beat CSU a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on September 03, 2013, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on September 03, 2013, 11:37:32 AM
I know I am look way, way, way ahead, but Charlotte put a monkey stomp on Campbell. http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?id=332432429

DOUBLE monkey stomp.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 03, 2013, 07:35:00 PM
had always looked forward to a night game, just not friday night at 600.  won't be able to make the game this week.  looking forward to see how the wesley offense does this week.  do they have a running back/s that can take the pressure off the new qb.  i figure the defense will be very strong and with widener losing their qb it may be tough for them to score.  they have a stud wide receiver that will be a good test for what should be a strong secondary.  will be looking forward to hear how the team looks this year.  the season comes down to the first 3 weeks although I think the game at birm south after the UMHB game could be a trap game.  1 lose early especially against UMHB, although I think UMHB lost more from their team than wesley did, will not hurt anymore than that and the playoff run will likely be over.

still getting out to see a game this weekend and likely a good one with rowan at del val.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 03, 2013, 11:51:20 PM
I'm going to attempt to get out of class early to at least catch the second half of the Wesley game.   I gotta watch that friggin' game as it may well be my only chance of seeing them in person this season  (it nauseates me to say that too)!   It is a school function, is it not?   ;)

I think the real challenge this year is going to lie with the offensive line as the Wolverines lost some good players from last year.  How well the offensive line holds will determine a lot for Callahan and the pocket.   I don't think he has the scrambling ability of McSweeny, but I have a feeling he can scramble a bit better than Sottilaire.   I have no doubt the defense is going to awesome as usual.  The key is whether or not the offense can catch up. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 04, 2013, 12:17:28 AM
Quote from: Teamski on September 03, 2013, 11:51:20 PM
I'm going to attempt to get out of class early to at least catch the second half of the Wesley game.   I gotta watch that friggin' game as it may well be my only chance of seeing them in person this season  (it nauseates me to say that too)!   It is a school function, is it not?   ;)

I think the real challenge this year is going to lie with the offensive line as the Wolverines lost some good players from last year.  How well the offensive line holds will determine a lot for Callahan and the pocket.   I don't think he has the scrambling ability of McSweeny, but I have a feeling he can scramble a bit better than Sottilaire.   I have no doubt the defense is going to awesome as usual.  The key is whether or not the offense can catch up. 

-Ski

Defense does WIN championships...last year showed that.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on September 05, 2013, 08:26:49 AM
We would like to be there , but we have a game at 7:00,,,looking forward to the rest of the season!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 05, 2013, 03:50:50 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on September 04, 2013, 12:17:28 AM
Quote from: Teamski on September 03, 2013, 11:51:20 PM
I'm going to attempt to get out of class early to at least catch the second half of the Wesley game.   I gotta watch that friggin' game as it may well be my only chance of seeing them in person this season  (it nauseates me to say that too)!   It is a school function, is it not?   ;)

I think the real challenge this year is going to lie with the offensive line as the Wolverines lost some good players from last year.  How well the offensive line holds will determine a lot for Callahan and the pocket.   I don't think he has the scrambling ability of McSweeny, but I have a feeling he can scramble a bit better than Sottilaire.   I have no doubt the defense is going to awesome as usual.  The key is whether or not the offense can catch up. 

-Ski

Defense does WIN championships...last year showed that.

Then again, an offense that continually goes three and out will lose the game for the defense.  A lot of games showed that!!   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 06, 2013, 10:21:50 AM
GAME DAY!!!!       GAME DAY!!!!        GAME DAY!!!!       GAME DAY!!!!         GAME DAY!!!!          GAME DAY!!!!          GAME DAY!!!!         GAME DAY!!!!        GAME DAY!!!!

Go Wesley!!       
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 06, 2013, 11:04:41 AM
Quote from: Teamski on September 06, 2013, 10:21:50 AM
GAME DAY!!!!       GAME DAY!!!!        GAME DAY!!!!       GAME DAY!!!!         GAME DAY!!!!          GAME DAY!!!!          GAME DAY!!!!         GAME DAY!!!!        GAME DAY!!!!

Go Wesley!!   

If I wake up earlier enough, I get to listen to the game before my flight.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 06, 2013, 11:05:01 AM
Good luck Wesley tonight
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on September 06, 2013, 09:53:24 PM
Very impressed with Callahan tonight. Not often do you see a kid throw for 500+ and 5 td's in his first start in college. A couple of learning moments, but they are greatly overshadowed by the successful. Strong arm, quicker release than the scrimmage last week. Ran the offense with confidence and poise. A great start for the Wolverines this season.

Now for the defense. They were on their heels for the first quarter and a half. Widener did a great job tossing the ball around to many targets. But the second half was purely dominant. 8 sacks on the night, most in the second half had the qb looking for a place to hide. Speed on the edges was killing the Pride.

Wescott (3) had a monster night with 13 tackles and Kapepula was a close second. Morris had the INT and some nice hits too.

On to SU...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 06, 2013, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: dedragon on September 06, 2013, 09:53:24 PM
Very impressed with Callahan tonight. Not often do you see a kid throw for 500+ and 5 td's in his first start in college. A couple of learning moments, but they are greatly overshadowed by the successful. Strong arm, quicker release than the scrimmage last week. Ran the offense with confidence and poise. A great start for the Wolverines this season.

Now for the defense. They were on their heels for the first quarter and a half. Widener did a great job tossing the ball around to many targets. But the second half was purely dominant. 8 sacks on the night, most in the second half had the qb looking for a place to hide. Speed on the edges was killing the Pride.

Wescott (3) had a monster night with 13 tackles and Kapepula was a close second. Morris had the INT and some nice hits too.

On to SU...

I fully concur!

I rushed out of class getting my early out with a text from my wife, "21-20 Widener".  I was shocked....Losing at the half?  Well, from what I was told when I got in the stands in the first minute of the second half, I was happy I didn't watch the first!  However, what I did get to see was pretty impressive on both sides of the ball.  For a long time, I heard that Callahan had an arm and an arm he has!!  I was really impressed with his composure in and out of the pocket.  He is extremely accurate and definitely up to the task.  Really pleased with him!  His connections with Koudossou will be pivotal this season.  It was neat to see Brandon Wright back on the field with his hard-hitting running, but he has got to keep the ball off the ground.  I hope to see a lot out of him this season.  Jeremiah Howe was awesome as usual.  He really turned out to be one hell of a player:  just so flexible either running or receiving. 

The defense, well, they really gave the QB problems in the second half.  Man, they just swallowed him up!

I was overhearing the Widener announcers talking about the game.  They were really impressed with Callahan's performance and the adjustment of the defense from the first to the second half.  Where have we heard this before?  Anybody remember the Linfield game?

So, that may have been my only chance to see the Wesley Wolverines this year in the flesh.  New names on both sides of the ball and yet Wesley continues to impress. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 06, 2013, 10:37:51 PM
Looking at the stats, Wesley had 622 yards of offense vs 270 yards for Widener.  In addition to Callahan's 37 of 52 passes for 510 yards, Koudossou had 266 yards receiving.  Cho!     :o

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 07, 2013, 09:29:20 AM
Didn't make the game, but it looks like it was a good win.  Total yards 600+ is very impressive.  Callahan's stats look really nice, that kind of production will make it tough on anyone.  Looks like the turnovers kept the game close and the kicking game has to improve, 2 missed field goals and and extra point can be the difference in the game.  Will be looking forward to getting to Dover next week to see the Salisbury game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 07, 2013, 08:26:08 PM
Wow, Salisbury loses to CNU 17-10!  It looks like they were victimized by their own triple option.  No doubt that if Wesley plays like they should, the defense is going to have a field day trapping the interior line and whatever is behind it.  Pretty shocked at the loss.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 07, 2013, 08:29:03 PM
ski, i watched the game and except for the first drive of the game CNU was the beter team.  Their defense was very good, looked like Wesley in how they handled the option.  The rivalry is always tough, but I agree with you, don't see the Gulls scoring much on Wesley if they only get 10 tonight.  Still looking forward to the game next week, want to see what the offense looks like.  With the results today, it looks like this could be the year that some different teams make the Stagg.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 07, 2013, 09:38:55 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 07, 2013, 08:29:03 PM
ski, i watched the game and except for the first drive of the game CNU was the beter team.  Their defense was very good, looked like Wesley in how they handled the option.  The rivalry is always tough, but I agree with you, don't see the Gulls scoring much on Wesley if they only get 10 tonight.  Still looking forward to the game next week, want to see what the offense looks like.  With the results today, it looks like this could be the year that some different teams make the Stagg.

No doubt.  And I thought Wesley had a slow start! 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 07, 2013, 10:20:36 PM
Friday night was a perfect night for football at Wesley.  The size of the crowd was insane - I don't think I ever remember seeing so many people for a regular game before, especially with the ridiculous 6 pm start.  As everyone else has said, Callahan looked great after he settled in.  Liked that they rolled him out on a few plays, and he looked like a scrappy kind of QB, which I like.  I think they're going to be able to open up the offense a little more this year than last given his combination of running and throwing ability.  Offensive line held their own most of the game, which was a plus with so many new additions.  Wescott had a good game on defense, heard he's worked out hard in the off season so hopefully it pays off.

As for some negatives, special teams needs tons of work (as it usually does this time of year).   Poor little kicker didn't even look good in warm ups, punt and kick off coverage left a lot to be desired as well.  On the offense, I thought receivers needed to block better down field - there were several plays that could have gone for more yardage had they held their blocks better.

All in all a solid start, and I'm anxious to see if we get off to a better start against SU next week.  Looking forward to a solid season, and should be very entertaining to see how Callahan improves during the year. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 08, 2013, 11:49:03 PM
Back in Ohio now with some free time (I'm supposed to be doing homework), and a computer to type on, here are my thoughts:

The game really turned on Sean Hopkins punt return he brought a long way back. I really thought the momentum in the stadium swung from Widener to the Wesley sideline. Typical first game for Wesley. The D did what they were supposed to and shut the Widener offense down in the second half.

I was super impressed with Callahan. Very calm, and has a great arm and was able to find his touch late in the game (stop n' go to Koudossou). He did have Bundy wide open a few times early but couldnt find him. That will come as the season progresses. If he has the touch all he has to do is let Koudossou or Bundy run underneath it. Some of those catches he made were amazing. The defense was great in the second half. I think the return of Dominique Herald will really bolster the secondary.

Looking forward to the Route 13 Rivalry next week. Both teams are coming into Dover hungry for a win!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 09, 2013, 02:59:03 PM
Waterboy,

It was great to see you once again at the game.

If Salisbury brings their stock triple option offense to Dover, I cannot see any other result than a complete shutdown by the Wesley defense.  Watching the CNU game, I was absolutely shocked at how ineffective the Gulls offense was.  The line allowed the CNU defense to push them back and create absolute chaos in the backfield.  I don't usually like predicting games outright, but I don't see anything but a route if Wesley sticks to their game plan and minimizes their mistakes.   It will be interesting to see if Salisbury attempts to field an alternative formation package that they have shown before in an attempt to spoof the defense in the first half, especially when they run a two quarterback scheme.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on September 10, 2013, 08:18:38 AM
We saw the Salsibury game vs CNU,,and the Gulls did play well on D but, O was not their usual ..Not the skill they have had in the past.

We will be making the trip up this weekend,,looking for a GOOD game  !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 10, 2013, 09:08:55 AM
Quote from: Teamski on September 09, 2013, 02:59:03 PM
Waterboy,

It was great to see you once again at the game.

If Salisbury brings their stock triple option offense to Dover, I cannot see any other result than a complete shutdown by the Wesley defense.   Watching the CNU game, I was absolutely shocked at how ineffective the Gulls offense was.  The line allowed the CNU defense to push them back and create absolute chaos in the backfield.  I don't usually like predicting games outright, but I don't see anything but a route if Wesley sticks to their game plan and minimizes their mistakes.   It will be interesting to see if Salisbury attempts to field an alternative formation package that they have shown before in an attempt to spoof the defense in the first half, especially when they run a two quarterback scheme.

-Ski

I think you hit right on the nail, if Salisbury does bring the option to Dover, the end result is going to be the same as the last 8 years or so. Based on what I have read, this Salisbury team doesn't look to be the most athletic on offense as year's past. I took a look at the most recent years and it appeared that Salisbury had the athletes, but still fell short, mainly do to Wesley familiarity with the option and the offense itself. I think that Wesley wins this game big. However, you never know what to expect with rivalries, I looked back to 2006 and saw that Wesley barely beat a bad Salisbury team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on September 11, 2013, 06:48:12 AM
Since 2006, Wesley is averaging a 9 pt win, with only two games beyond a 2TD margin. Wesley has had some pretty good teams since then too. Sounds like a rivalry game to me.

Would like to see the Wesley ground game get some attention this week. I personally feel that a good ground game early solidifies a OL for a potential run later. Excited to see Callahan develop this week with a new defensive look from SU. I'm sure he is benefitting from watching his own film this week rather than Sottilaire or McSweeney's.

I haven't seen a Wesley QB throw that 15-20 yard out near the sidelines like that EVER. That alone should make everyone else worry. That is a throw that NFL scouts drool over. Don't look too far into that statement...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 14, 2013, 08:35:30 AM
GAMEDAY!!

Beautiful day for a game with cooler temperatures for once!  I am hoping my classes let out early so I can catch the game this afternoon (please!!!).   If Wesley's defense of functioning like it should, I don't see much of a problem for the Wolverines today.  However, as dedragon mentions, it is a rivalry, so anything is possible, I guess.  I wish I could watch the first half to see if Salisbury tries to spoof the defense.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 14, 2013, 08:54:09 AM
looking forward to heading to dover today to see the wolverines in person for the first time this year.  sounds like the have reloaded on offense and the defense after some hiccups early against widener turned up the heat in the second half to shut them down.  i watched the salisbury game last week and the offense was really stale.  take away the first drive and they struggled against a tough cnu defense.  i figure that wesley's d is just as good and with past history showing that wesley can shut the gulls down it does not look good for salisbury.  the rivalry usually keeps the games close but i will be interested to see how the wesley o does today.  great football weather.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 14, 2013, 04:08:43 PM
Hey Wesleydad - how's the ole ticker? still beating? are you with us? That must have been exiting for you! 4th and 21....and hit a 43 yd td pass with 52 seconds left.....

crapola is all i have to say!! i was really pulling for SU so it would help CNU. But ya know what........I'm glad you beat the Sky Rats!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 14, 2013, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 09, 2013, 02:59:03 PM
I don't usually like predicting games outright, but I don't see anything but a route if Wesley sticks to their game plan and minimizes their mistakes.   It will be interesting to see if Salisbury attempts to field an alternative formation package that they have shown before in an attempt to spoof the defense in the first half, especially when they run a two quarterback scheme.

-Ski

I will stick with my own advice from now on.  Once again, I was able to weasel out of an afternoon of research time for my class and donned my Bryan Robinson Jersey and faded Wesley baseball cap and witnessed the closest nail biter since the Montclair State upset years ago, except the results were in Wesley's favor.  Absolutely amazing.

Salisbury played damn tough and hats off to them for taking it to the Wolverines.  The Wesley offensive line couldn't contain defence and that spawned a series of three and outs, interceptions and TFL's leaving Wesley behind 17-14 at the half.  Callahan was showing his inexperience this time around with tossing balls up for grabs at times and not getting rid of the ball when the pressure was tough.  However, his legs changed things in the second half and he started McSweenying to gain some critical first downs. 

All seemed lost when Salisbury went ahead in the 4th 27-24  late in the 4th with Callahan subsequently tossing an interception with only 5 or so minutes left.  The defense got the ball back with less than two minutes left and things really looked bleak with Wesley sitting with a 4th and forever on the Gulls 44 yard line after a Callahan sack. 

I really feel sorry for Salisbury as they had Wesley on the ropes.  But the wind of fortune blew the ball into the hands of Jeremiah Howe in the corner of the end zone after a 43 yard hail Mary from Callahan with less than a minute to go.  It was a sight to see and I am still spinning.  Incredible. 

So, I take everything back about Salisbury and bow my head to them and the Route 13 Rivalry.  It lived up to its name in all ways!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 14, 2013, 05:25:32 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 14, 2013, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 09, 2013, 02:59:03 PM
I don't usually like predicting games outright, but I don't see anything but a route if Wesley sticks to their game plan and minimizes their mistakes.   It will be interesting to see if Salisbury attempts to field an alternative formation package that they have shown before in an attempt to spoof the defense in the first half, especially when they run a two quarterback scheme.

-Ski

I will stick with my own advice from now on.  Once again, I was able to weasel out of an afternoon of research time for my class and donned my Bryan Robinson Jersey and faded Wesley baseball cap and witnessed the closest nail biter since the Montclair State upset years ago, except the results were in Wesley's favor.  Absolutely amazing.

Salisbury played damn tough and hats off to them for taking it to the Wolverines.  The Wesley offensive line couldn't contain defence and that spawned a series of three and outs, interceptions and TFL's leaving Wesley behind 17-14 at the half.  Callahan was showing his inexperience this time around with tossing balls up for grabs at times and not getting rid of the ball when the pressure was tough.  However, his legs changed things in the second half and he started McSweenying to gain some critical first downs. 

All seemed lost when Salisbury went ahead in the 4th 27-24  late in the 4th with Callahan subsequently tossing an interception with only 5 or so minutes left.  The defense got the ball back with less than two minutes left and things really looked bleak with Wesley sitting with a 4th and forever on the Gulls 44 yard line after a Callahan sack. 

I really feel sorry for Salisbury as they had Wesley on the ropes.  But the wind of fortune blew the ball into the hands of Jeremiah Howe in the corner of the end zone after a 43 yard hail Mary from Callahan with less than a minute to go.  It was a sight to see and I am still spinning.  Incredible. 

So, I take everything back about Salisbury and bow my head to them and the Route 13 Rivalry.  It lived up to its name in all ways!

-Ski

I agree, I had a chance to go the game and I thought that this game was Salisbury to win. However, as you aforementioned, that touchdown on 4th and forever was amazing. I think that Howe kid did really awesome. I was shocked to see some of the different formations and the throwing of Salisbury, hats off to the coordinator, he really mixed it up. However, hats off to the Wesley players, because they played to the end. I really thought that Salisbury was the better team today, I didn't see the Koudouso kid, but gutsy plays out of the remaining players by Wesley was the story. I really enjoyed being able to watch both teams and think that both these teams are going to be something special to watch the rest of the season. I guess that's why they consider these rivalry games for a reason.

Now, if Salisbury plays to this level, I think they do win the E 8 this year, I was thinking that maybe some other teams could take them out, but I was proven wrong this weekend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 14, 2013, 06:28:25 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 14, 2013, 04:08:43 PM
Hey Wesleydad - how's the ole ticker? still beating? are you with us? That must have been exiting for you! 4th and 21....and hit a 43 yd td pass with 52 seconds left.....

crapola is all i have to say!! i was really pulling for SU so it would help CNU. But ya know what........I'm glad you beat the Sky Rats!!

cnu85, yea doing fine.  Don't get as hyped up anymore since I dont have a player in the game.  Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good and this is one of those times.  Too many mistakes by the offense made it tough to control the game.  Chance to go up 21 - 7 mid 2nd quarter turns into a 3 pt deficit at the half.  Callahan had happy feet all game as the O line struggled with pass protection.  Seldom any chance to set his feet to throw the ball.  When he did have time he made some poor throws and underthrew at least a half dozen balls to open receivers.  In the end it is a win but if they are going to be in the top team discussion the O line has to get much better.  The defense played well in spurts but gave up more yards than I expected.  Hats off to Salisbury for a very gutsy performance.

I will be watching your game tonight to see if CNU is for real after the excellent performance last week.  Good luck tonight.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 14, 2013, 08:53:24 PM
Teamski -
You are a Wolverine! Respect to Salisbury as valiant foe but never feel sorry for them! I gotta ding your Karma for that statement.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 14, 2013, 08:54:33 PM
Just kidding... Kind of.u
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 14, 2013, 09:11:48 PM
Ski - I have to say there was awhile during the game I was using your name in vain as I thought you had jinxed us with your confident prediction!

Wesley was less than stellar in this one and as was said above, was really more lucky than good to come out with the win.  Looks like the injury bug has reared its ugly head again this year - Koudouso out early, then Wright.  Also heard somebody say two on the o-line are fighting injuries as well.  Anybody know yet if any of these are long term issues?  Hope not!

Poor kicker.  All those kids on the sideline and nobody who can consistently make a PAT??  I'm sure he's doing his best, but, ughh....

I did enjoy seeing Callahan run a little more and he threw a nice block when needed.  He obviously made some poor decisions with the interceptions and sacks, but he also came through when he had to with the last TD pass.  This was a good experience for him, and hopefully he can gain some confidence from it when he's in tight spots down the road. 

While not always a thing of beauty this was everything you could want in a great rivalry game - two teams giving it all they had, a few little skirmishes during the heat of battle, and then handshakes and respect all around when it was over.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on September 14, 2013, 10:14:15 PM
So Wesleydad,

Whatya think about CNU game? Weird wasn't it? HSC had huge passing numbers but to me never seemed in the game. They appeared to be misfiring. 8 turnovers!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 15, 2013, 07:46:58 AM
cnu, captains have a nice defense.  causing turnovers and stopping 2 pretty potent offenses makes for a great start to the season.  you will have plenty to be excited about this season in my opinion.  have to win the league and get in again, then who knows.  qb seems to be under control.  good luck and enjoy the year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 15, 2013, 12:14:22 PM
So heres what I thought:

On paper, Wesley has the better team, but yesterday Salisbury was the better team. Wesley had 1 break, and it just so happened to be the game winner. This kinda reminds me of the Del Val game from 2010 where Wesley had like 6 turnovers but managed to eek out a win in the final seconds. Seems to me like Wesley is trying to find an identity on both sides of the ball.

Callahan will mature from this one. Eager to see how the offense fairs against UMHB. They need to get healthy, especially Koudossou, or else Wesley will have to improvise like they did this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kelly Boggs on September 15, 2013, 02:11:47 PM
Safe travels to any and all Wesley fans making the trip to Texas this week. I can't think of a more appropriate team than the Wolverines to help open The CRUthedral. Two first class programs playing in a first class facility. Should be a memorable evening.

Up with the Purple!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on September 16, 2013, 12:12:22 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 15, 2013, 12:14:22 PM
Callahan will mature from this one. Eager to see how the offense fairs against UMHB. They need to get healthy, especially Koudossou, or else Wesley will have to improvise like they did this week.

Very interesting, definitely, as this Cru defense is one of the best I've seen in a few years. Very fast on the end and in the middle of the field, they will put pressure on the QB. Our CB's have also been great on coverage.

Should be an exciting game. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 16, 2013, 07:33:28 PM
  There were two penalties that hurt Wesley more than anything else and I dare say we won't see anyone hitting an opponent 50 yards away from the play again this year!!! Hopefully the little nagging injuries will not keep the players out of this weeks game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 17, 2013, 04:28:49 PM
Congrads on Wesley nabbing the play of the week!!!  That is not the way you want to win the game although it was something else to witness!  All you have to do is listen to Sean and Jason to get an idea of the pandemonium.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kelly Boggs on September 17, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
I am not sure how dinged up UMHB is, but I do know they will be starting a sophomore at quarterback. He was third on the depth chart at the start of the season, but one and two are down with injuries. Zach Anderson (#1) took over at the start of the second half against Kean after senior Jake Sims was injured. Anderson guided The CRU to 31 points in the second stanza. He was composed and under control when running the option and was efficient in the passing game.  Of course, the UMHB defense was stifling which allowed young Mr. Anderson to perform without a lot of pressure. His first real test will come this week when he faces the Wesley D.

Looking forward to welcoming the Wolverines to The CRUthedral. It should be another classic match-up.

Up with the Purple!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 17, 2013, 06:43:35 PM
Quote from: Kelly Boggs on September 17, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
I am not sure how dinged up UMHB is, but I do know they will be starting a sophomore at quarterback. He was third on the depth chart at the start of the season, but one and two are down with injuries. Zach Anderson (#1) took over at the start of the second half against Kean after senior Jake Sims was injured. Anderson guided The CRU to 31 points in the second stanza. He was composed and under control when running the option and was efficient in the passing game.  Of course, the UMHB defense was stifling which allowed young Mr. Anderson to perform without a lot of pressure. His first real test will come this week when he faces the Wesley D.

Looking forward to welcoming the Wolverines to The CRUthedral. It should be another classic match-up.

Up with the Purple!

Kelly, never like to hear about injuries but it sounds like both offenses could be depleted.  Wesley has plenty of running backs so an injury there wont hurt, but missing koudousso? will definitely hinder the offense.  After watching last week, if the O line does not show vast improvement than Callahan will spend most of the day running around or getting up off the ground.  A poor effort against the Gulls made the game closer than it needed to be.  Should be a good one and it will be nice to see the new stadium, just wish I could make the trip.  Good thing is that UMHB has a top notch video production so I will get to sit back and relax in front of the computer.  Good luck this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on September 17, 2013, 06:48:54 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 17, 2013, 06:43:35 PM
Quote from: Kelly Boggs on September 17, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
I am not sure how dinged up UMHB is, but I do know they will be starting a sophomore at quarterback. He was third on the depth chart at the start of the season, but one and two are down with injuries. Zach Anderson (#1) took over at the start of the second half against Kean after senior Jake Sims was injured. Anderson guided The CRU to 31 points in the second stanza. He was composed and under control when running the option and was efficient in the passing game.  Of course, the UMHB defense was stifling which allowed young Mr. Anderson to perform without a lot of pressure. His first real test will come this week when he faces the Wesley D.

Looking forward to welcoming the Wolverines to The CRUthedral. It should be another classic match-up.

Up with the Purple!

Kelly, never like to hear about injuries but it sounds like both offenses could be depleted.  Wesley has plenty of running backs so an injury there wont hurt, but missing koudousso? will definitely hinder the offense.  After watching last week, if the O line does not show vast improvement than Callahan will spend most of the day running around or getting up off the ground.  A poor effort against the Gulls made the game closer than it needed to be.  Should be a good one and it will be nice to see the new stadium, just wish I could make the trip.  Good thing is that UMHB has a top notch video production so I will get to sit back and relax in front of the computer.  Good luck this week.

Hopefully you have even greater video this week, I haven't heard anything official but since we will have a jumbo-tron we will have cameras in numerous places. Again hopefully they will be able to use that to improve the video production for home games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 18, 2013, 12:39:33 AM
The Wesley offense was pretty stagnate this last week up until Callahan started scrambling with the ball.  Although his rushing first downs didn't necessarily "fix" the offense, they did stump the Gulls defense enough to keep the Wesley defense off the field (That said, the offense did score 24 points, so it wasn't completely ineffective).  I would expect that scrambling to be incorporated in the offensive scheme much as it was when McSweeny was behind the center.  If Callahan can maintain his passing discipline, the read option could very well work to his advantage.  I know, a bit of the cart ahead of the horse here......   ;)

No doubt, Wesley will have to play a perfect game to win this one.  Regardless of the QB situation at UMHB, they have depth and that counts a lot when we are talking player quality.  Talking to the Wesley players, they are certainly ready for this game.  Wesley is heading into this contest with two challenging games behind them.  That should help them mentally prepare for yet another tough game in front of a large, loud crowd (the last two Wesley home games were the most attended consecutive home games I have been to with large crowds on both sides of the field).

It will all be answered Saturday night, under the the lights.  We Wesley fans are definitely lucky to have a video feed of the game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 18, 2013, 12:48:43 AM
It would be nice to see the UMHB stadium set a trend in sort of "upgrading" D3 facilities to an extent. Still trying to get out of work Saturday night so I will be able to watch.  :-[

The Wesley o-line needs to play much better against UMHB and give Callahan time to throw. If they can do that he should be able to get the ball up over the top similar to how former Wesley QBs did it and found big plays. Callahan has an arm and he will need to use it if Wesley wants to come out on top. If Koudossou is out, guys like Bundy and freshman Bryce Shade will need to step up. Howe will be there as the possession threat but I feel someone is going to need to step up and be the deep ball/touchdown threat. This has been important in the past against UMHB (Beavers in 05, Clarke in 06, Krout in 10, and Koudossou/Barile in 11).

AND before I forget for you UMHB people: Is it possible to get the video stream on my phone somehow (in case I cant get out of working  ;) )?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on September 18, 2013, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 18, 2013, 12:48:43 AM
It would be nice to see the UMHB stadium set a trend in sort of "upgrading" D3 facilities to an extent. Still trying to get out of work Saturday night so I will be able to watch.  :-[

The Wesley o-line needs to play much better against UMHB and give Callahan time to throw. If they can do that he should be able to get the ball up over the top similar to how former Wesley QBs did it and found big plays. Callahan has an arm and he will need to use it if Wesley wants to come out on top. If Koudossou is out, guys like Bundy and freshman Bryce Shade will need to step up. Howe will be there as the possession threat but I feel someone is going to need to step up and be the deep ball/touchdown threat. This has been important in the past against UMHB (Beavers in 05, Clarke in 06, Krout in 10, and Koudossou/Barile in 11).

AND before I forget for you UMHB people: Is it possible to get the video stream on my phone somehow (in case I cant get out of working  ;) )?

I have always had access on my phone when necessary, the only caution I have is with this being a new stadium that is still a work in progress we have not used the equipment yet so anything in possible.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on September 18, 2013, 06:09:49 PM
Could someone explain to me how to get access to the video feed of the upcoming Wesley game?

Many thanks!

Ned
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2013, 10:46:44 AM
Quote from: NedM on September 18, 2013, 06:09:49 PM
Could someone explain to me how to get access to the video feed of the upcoming Wesley game?

Many thanks!

Ned

Ned,

Every game with video links (and audio and live stats) can be found on the scoreboard on D3football.com.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 19, 2013, 11:00:29 AM
Quote from: NedM on September 18, 2013, 06:09:49 PM
Could someone explain to me how to get access to the video feed of the upcoming Wesley game?

Many thanks!

Ned

Easy, just go to the scores here on D3F and click the "V" next to the Wesley/UMHB game.  The rest should be straight forward.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 19, 2013, 11:03:13 AM
....And yes, I missed Pat's response.    ::)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on September 19, 2013, 06:04:16 PM
Thank you both.

Ned
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 21, 2013, 11:42:40 AM
looking forward to tonight's game.  Wesley's o line will really have to improve from what I saw last week for them to have a chance tonight.  I figure that UMHB will be just as fast and physical as Salisbury was and if they are Callahan may be running all over just to avoid sacks.  If Wesley can establish a running game that will help.  I was also a little disappointed in the defense last week.  I did not think they would give up the amount of points that they did.  There effort will have to improve also.  UMHB is starting a soph at QB who apparently acquitted himself quite well last week against Kean.  Wesley will have to make his day miserable which they can do.  I expect/hope the game will be close, but think Wesley will have to play much better than they did last week if they are going to get the win.  Also will be looking forward to seeing the new stadium.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 21, 2013, 12:48:12 PM
GAME DAY!!


Good luck tonight Wesley!  Keep sharp, keep quick!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on September 21, 2013, 02:48:49 PM
The campus is electric today with the excitement and everything that is going on. Peopleg are tailgating  and there is a real sense of excitement on campus that I've never felt.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 21, 2013, 03:12:08 PM
So bummed we're stuck in Delaware at our high school game today, hope everyone who made the trip has a great time. Wesley has to play much better this week than last to have a chance. Most concerning to me is our special teams. Missing an extra point in a close game, or losing momentum with a missed field goal could really hurt. Anxious to see how the Cru looks this year, looking forward to a good game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 21, 2013, 07:15:39 PM
Not a good start.  Ouch.  The Crusader defense is just gobbling up the offensive line. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 21, 2013, 07:16:52 PM
o line is not blocking anyone.  inexcusable.  this game could get ugly real quick.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 21, 2013, 07:38:23 PM
 The injuries keep piling up

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 21, 2013, 07:43:21 PM
 the youth is showing. Only one junior on the O  line 7 freshman
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 21, 2013, 07:44:50 PM
wow the center wa way down field on that TD

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 21, 2013, 07:45:59 PM
UMHB has a lot of speed in the skill spots
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 21, 2013, 08:27:11 PM
Uggghhhh.   Good news is we were able to put together a little bit of a drive late in the half and defense started to hold their own better.  UMHB's QB was making us look like a JV team there for awhile.  Hope we can make good adjustments at the half and at least make this a little more of a game.  I know the O-line is young but we've got to do something to help them out and get it going.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 21, 2013, 08:30:45 PM
Agree DE wesley fan, hope they can make it competitive in the second half.  defense is going to be tired if they have to be on the field as much this half.  hopefully the offense can sustain some drives to give them a rest.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 21, 2013, 08:34:03 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 21, 2013, 08:30:45 PM
Agree DE wesley fan, hope they can make it competitive in the second half.  defense is going to be tired if they have to be on the field as much this half.  hopefully the offense can sustain some drives to give them a rest.

They already are.  If you noticed that last Cru drive, the defense was doubled over.  UMHB is just quick.  It seems like Wesley offense was in slow motion.  The score could have been a lot worse.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 21, 2013, 08:47:36 PM
Yeah....the game continues.....  :-\ 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 21, 2013, 09:05:11 PM
I can't really fault Wesley's defense.  Sure, they allowed some big plays, but the offensive implosion doomed the whole game.  The offensive line was a concern from the get-go and those concerns were quite evident today.  This is a historic loss for sure.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 21, 2013, 09:19:06 PM
Wesley is far from competitive against one of the top teams in the country.  They will have to regroup and run the table if they want to make the playoffs.  Currently they are not close to being in the discussion about winning the national championship.  The offense needs to improve immensely if they are even to be considered as one of the top teams in the south.  The gap is huge between UMHB and the rest.  If their QB continues to improve they will certainly be in the discussion and maybe even a favorite to get to Salem.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 21, 2013, 09:19:33 PM
 not as bad as historic. they have lost games early before
BUt they do have work to do

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 21, 2013, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 21, 2013, 09:19:33 PM
not as bad as historic. they have lost games early before
BUt they do have work to do

It will be if Wesley doesn't score. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on September 21, 2013, 09:23:25 PM
QuoteThis is a historic loss for sure.

Near as I can tell last time Wesley was blanked was 2006 0-47 against Brockport State.

Of course they were blanked 0-28 for the first half in a playoff game a couple years ago.   ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 21, 2013, 09:30:01 PM
Not sure they have had this young a team in quite a while
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 21, 2013, 09:35:20 PM
Defense is playing well...about the only thing you can take away from today. Was at work and was only able to listen briefly at work. The o-line is killing them.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 21, 2013, 09:38:20 PM
And if the offensive line wasnt dinged up enough....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 21, 2013, 09:55:25 PM
The pain is finally over.  At least Wesley was able to scratch a TD out of it.  Wow, talk about a non-appearance for the offense.  They were completely outmatched speed for speed.  I am not too worried about Birmingham Southern as they seem to be a mortal team, so Wesley will need to regroup and focus next week to play like they should.

It is hard to be on the other end of a monkey stomp, but it was bound to happen sooner or later.  At least they aren't St. Thomas, right?

The defense is just fine IMHO.  They did what they could tonight.   The game could have easily been a 50+ point whipping, but the defense did what it could to stem the bleeding.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 21, 2013, 10:00:26 PM
Well at least we eventually scored.  HATED the nonsense lining up for the extra point.  Getting the PAT is enough of a drama this year without all that.  Hope everyone heals quickly and regroups to come back strong next week.  Congrats to UMHB for a good game - they have a lot to be excited about again this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 21, 2013, 10:07:33 PM
Sean:  "Is that Confetti?"
Jason: "No, those are bugs, man!"

Hilarious!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 21, 2013, 10:09:30 PM
Ski, I thought the defense played very well given the situations they were given.

On offense the offensive line play was pretty close to atrocious, but the thing I noticed most was the lack of a gamechanger or playmaker. Someone had to come up with a few first downs to get momentum back. It felt like UMHB had momentum all game long. Koudossou can be a game changer, but its not possible every night. There is no luxury of an Ellis Krout, Shane McSweeny, or a Chris Warrick this season. More need to step it up and be leaders. I feel like the Wolverines have lacked that to an extent this season.

Well done to UMHB for a nice win and a sick stadium. Some of the Wesley faithful down there were saying that "they have never seen anything like it before."

This hurts, but Wesley will bounce back, and hopefully with a vengeance. Back in 05 they were embarrassed by a 3-4 Brockport team 47-0 and wound up in the semifinals, so by no means is this a loss to linger over as far as questioning Wesley's chances down the road.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 21, 2013, 11:41:27 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 21, 2013, 10:07:33 PM
Sean:  "Is that Confetti?"
Jason: "No, those are bugs, man!"

Hilarious!

-Ski

LMAO
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on September 22, 2013, 03:10:47 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on September 21, 2013, 11:41:27 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 21, 2013, 10:07:33 PM
Sean:  "Is that Confetti?"
Jason: "No, those are bugs, man!"

Hilarious!

-Ski

LMAO
Welcome to cricket season in Central Texas. When I was in high school and played tuba in the band, late 3rd or 4th quarter when the lights were shining bright, crickets would dive bomb the bells of our sousaphones because of the reflection.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 22, 2013, 05:09:51 PM
Biggest crickets I ever saw. I think we found my partner's phobia. Sorry I missed you Toby. Great night for the whole UMHB community. I have thank the woman at the c-mart in Belton who wouldn't let me buy contact solution since they didn't have travel size and ran out to her truck to give me hers. Central Texas treated us great except for on the field. Hope we see you again in December but we have to get back to work.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 22, 2013, 07:33:58 PM
after yesterday's game it is obvious that the offense will have to change the game plan until the O line shows an ability to pass block on straight drop backs.  They were able to move the ball with quick routes and short roll outs and I hope that they go more to that especially when it is obvious the other team has better athletes on the D line than you do on the O line.  Birm South may be similar athletically next week, but I doubt they will be as skilled.  The other confusing thing to me is why Wesley doesnt stick with a specific running back.  Each week there is a different featured back.  I am not sure who was injured which may have caused the change to Byrd this week.  Koudousso was effective when he got on the field yesterday so it is a shame that he was limping and was not 100%.  All in all this is a good team, but needs to show much improvement if it wants to entertain chances of anything more than another trip to Belton in the south region finals.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on September 22, 2013, 09:31:51 PM
In my defense in regards to my reaction to the crickets...............  Nope, I've got nothing.  I was okayish until they started landing on my notes and shoulder.

"10 Questions:  Sean's Phobia's Edition" might take a while.

I echo Jason's comments about the hospitality.  From the applause for Wesley as they left the field to all the helpful staff and everyone just wanting to chat, it's as enjoyable an experience as one could ever hope for around a Saturday night away from Dover.

Enjoy your new digs, even going back to my old days covering Delaware in Division I-AA I can only think of a few places on that level that could match Crusader Stadium (but gotta keep time/score on the scoreboard!).  And no BBQ place I've ever been to beats Schoepf's.  And if some place does, I might actually suffer another Brisket Coma.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 22, 2013, 10:08:02 PM
A cricket got into my bag and took the ride back to the hotel with me. Thankfully it jumped out of the bag when I took my laptop out and I was able to ... eliminate it without much trouble. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 22, 2013, 10:16:29 PM
OH Boy Pat If you would have taken it home and it repopulated you could have had it named after ya!!! LOL
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 23, 2013, 12:09:37 AM
Oh you mean that the crickets had not begun to die yet?

Y'all are lucky! That really would have been a memorable trip, olfactorally speaking.

:P
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on September 23, 2013, 12:40:41 AM
Quote from: wdelsean on September 22, 2013, 09:31:51 PM
In my defense in regards to my reaction to the crickets...............  Nope, I've got nothing.  I was okayish until they started landing on my notes and shoulder.

"10 Questions:  Sean's Phobia's Edition" might take a while.

I echo Jason's comments about the hospitality.  From the applause for Wesley as they left the field to all the helpful staff and everyone just wanting to chat, it's as enjoyable an experience as one could ever hope for around a Saturday night away from Dover.

Enjoy your new digs, even going back to my old days covering Delaware in Division I-AA I can only think of a few places on that level that could match Crusader Stadium (but gotta keep time/score on the scoreboard!).  And no BBQ place I've ever been to beats Schoepf's.  And if some place does, I might actually suffer another Brisket Coma.
Schoepf's is fantastic. We had our rehearsal dinner there almost 20 years ago, but there is better BBQ within a hundred miles of Belton. Next time come to Belton early and we can make sure you earn the meat coma.

As for the crickets, they were much worse when I was younger. They used to cover the walls and sidewalks so that it looked like a moving black mass, and then, as Ralph pointed out, they die off and it is foul smelling.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 23, 2013, 12:52:12 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 22, 2013, 07:33:58 PM
after yesterday's game it is obvious that the offense will have to change the game plan until the O line shows an ability to pass block on straight drop backs.  They were able to move the ball with quick routes and short roll outs and I hope that they go more to that especially when it is obvious the other team has better athletes on the D line than you do on the O line.  Birm South may be similar athletically next week, but I doubt they will be as skilled.  The other confusing thing to me is why Wesley doesnt stick with a specific running back.  Each week there is a different featured back.  I am not sure who was injured which may have caused the change to Byrd this week.  Koudousso was effective when he got on the field yesterday so it is a shame that he was limping and was not 100%.  All in all this is a good team, but needs to show much improvement if it wants to entertain chances of anything more than another trip to Belton in the south region finals.

From what I saw, a lot of what UMHB brought to the field was speed.  It seemed like the Wesley offense was in slow motion.  The Cru defense just blew past the linemen into the backfield.   Wesley's execution was simply too slow.  This caused a ton of missed blocking assignments and Callahan having to run for his life.   The defense, I thought, with the exception of some big plays did pretty well overall.  You can't keep going 3 and out and expect the defense to keep it close.....not with a top 5 team. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 23, 2013, 10:39:41 AM
Quote from: Teamski on September 23, 2013, 12:52:12 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 22, 2013, 07:33:58 PM
after yesterday's game it is obvious that the offense will have to change the game plan until the O line shows an ability to pass block on straight drop backs.  They were able to move the ball with quick routes and short roll outs and I hope that they go more to that especially when it is obvious the other team has better athletes on the D line than you do on the O line.  Birm South may be similar athletically next week, but I doubt they will be as skilled.  The other confusing thing to me is why Wesley doesnt stick with a specific running back.  Each week there is a different featured back.  I am not sure who was injured which may have caused the change to Byrd this week.  Koudousso was effective when he got on the field yesterday so it is a shame that he was limping and was not 100%.  All in all this is a good team, but needs to show much improvement if it wants to entertain chances of anything more than another trip to Belton in the south region finals.

From what I saw, a lot of what UMHB brought to the field was speed.  It seemed like the Wesley offense was in slow motion.  The Cru defense just blew past the linemen into the backfield.   Wesley's execution was simply too slow.  This caused a ton of missed blocking assignments and Callahan having to run for his life.   The defense, I thought, with the exception of some big plays did pretty well overall.  You can't keep going 3 and out and expect the defense to keep it close.....not with a top 5 team. 

-Ski

Went through the box score and play by play of the Wesley game and it appears that Wesley is becoming very one-dimensional. I would think if the passing game isn't working, they would try to establish a running game. Or was UMHB stopping that as well. The stats looked like the UW-Whitewater game some years ago.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on September 23, 2013, 11:01:48 AM
UMHB controlled the line of scrimmage with just 6 (and sometimes just 5) guys in the box. This allowed them to play defenders outside on the receivers with a safety over the top. Wesley tried two run the ball but was unable due a great effort by the Cru box defenders.

In last year's quarterfinals, UMHB played similarly but Wesley was able to pound out some tough yards behind Jahad and three seniors on the offensive line. This opened up the pass game for them and they were able to move the ball.  Wesley wasted quite a few red zone chances. Though you have to credit the Cru D for stiffling them on a short field too.

This year's group will get better with health and experience. But the road will be tough. If you look at the schedule of D3 opponents they are playing a likely or potential conference champ every week: Widener (MAC), Salisbury (E8), UMHB (ASC), Birmingham-Southern (SAA), Huntingdon (USA South) and Rowan (NJAC.)

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 23, 2013, 02:14:06 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on September 23, 2013, 11:01:48 AM
UMHB controlled the line of scrimmage with just 6 (and sometimes just 5) guys in the box. This allowed them to play defenders outside on the receivers with a safety over the top. Wesley tried two run the ball but was unable due a great effort by the Cru box defenders.

In last year's quarterfinals, UMHB played similarly but Wesley was able to pound out some tough yards behind Jahad and three seniors on the offensive line. This opened up the pass game for them and they were able to move the ball.  Wesley wasted quite a few red zone chances. Though you have to credit the Cru D for stiffling them on a short field too.

This year's group will get better with health and experience. But the road will be tough. If you look at the schedule of D3 opponents they are playing a likely or potential conference champ every week: Widener (MAC), Salisbury (E8), UMHB (ASC), Birmingham-Southern (SAA), Huntingdon (USA South) and Rowan (NJAC.)

I can imagine our looking at a 2-loss Wesley at the end of the season, having gone 4-2 against regionally ranked opponents.

That warrants an at-large bid for me, right there!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 24, 2013, 10:14:27 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 23, 2013, 02:14:06 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on September 23, 2013, 11:01:48 AM
UMHB controlled the line of scrimmage with just 6 (and sometimes just 5) guys in the box. This allowed them to play defenders outside on the receivers with a safety over the top. Wesley tried two run the ball but was unable due a great effort by the Cru box defenders.

In last year's quarterfinals, UMHB played similarly but Wesley was able to pound out some tough yards behind Jahad and three seniors on the offensive line. This opened up the pass game for them and they were able to move the ball.  Wesley wasted quite a few red zone chances. Though you have to credit the Cru D for stiffling them on a short field too.

This year's group will get better with health and experience. But the road will be tough. If you look at the schedule of D3 opponents they are playing a likely or potential conference champ every week: Widener (MAC), Salisbury (E8), UMHB (ASC), Birmingham-Southern (SAA), Huntingdon (USA South) and Rowan (NJAC.)

I can imagine our looking at a 2-loss Wesley at the end of the season, having gone 4-2 against regionally ranked opponents.

That warrants an at-large bid for me, right there!

Or possibly 7-3 with the Charlotte game.  I don't think they are going to be FCS pushovers like Charleston Southern was a couple years ago.  Just a gut feeling  If the offense doesn't improve, it will be a long season.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 24, 2013, 10:50:37 AM
Quote from: Teamski on September 24, 2013, 10:14:27 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 23, 2013, 02:14:06 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on September 23, 2013, 11:01:48 AM
UMHB controlled the line of scrimmage with just 6 (and sometimes just 5) guys in the box. This allowed them to play defenders outside on the receivers with a safety over the top. Wesley tried two run the ball but was unable due a great effort by the Cru box defenders.

In last year's quarterfinals, UMHB played similarly but Wesley was able to pound out some tough yards behind Jahad and three seniors on the offensive line. This opened up the pass game for them and they were able to move the ball.  Wesley wasted quite a few red zone chances. Though you have to credit the Cru D for stiffling them on a short field too.

This year's group will get better with health and experience. But the road will be tough. If you look at the schedule of D3 opponents they are playing a likely or potential conference champ every week: Widener (MAC), Salisbury (E8), UMHB (ASC), Birmingham-Southern (SAA), Huntingdon (USA South) and Rowan (NJAC.)

I can imagine our looking at a 2-loss Wesley at the end of the season, having gone 4-2 against regionally ranked opponents.

That warrants an at-large bid for me, right there!

Or possibly 7-3 with the Charlotte game.  I don't think they are going to be FCS pushovers like Charleston Southern was a couple years ago.  Just a gut feeling  If the offense doesn't improve, it will be a long season.

-Ski

When was the last time a 7-3 team received a pool B?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 24, 2013, 10:58:03 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on September 24, 2013, 10:50:37 AM
When was the last time a 7-3 team received a pool B?
It's not so much 7-3 as it is 5-2 in D3 (assuming the extra loss is a D3 game). Having 3 non D3 games would really hurt as the winning percentage would look bad. That is a real peril Wesley runs with their schedule, and there isn't much they can do about it as a tradition top 10 school existing as an Independent. It hasn't hurt recently, but at some point it might.

Can someone give me a Pool B breakdown? D3football shows only 5 independents, but something fuzzy in the back of mind says the SAA, SCAC and maybe UAA are also still wrapped up in that grouping? Clarity please!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 24, 2013, 10:59:11 AM
Correct, all of those conferences, plus the MASCAC, contribute to Pool B's size this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 24, 2013, 11:01:41 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 24, 2013, 10:59:11 AM
Correct, all of those conferences, plus the MASCAC, contribute to Pool B's size this year.

So 24 conferences (A), 5 second chance (C), and 3 independent (B)? Hopefully I didn't count the conferences wrong...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 24, 2013, 11:02:34 AM
That's our calculation, yes. The NCAA has yet to release its championship handbook but this is how the numbers work out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 24, 2013, 11:07:47 AM
Thanks Pat. On the ball as always. I guess it's not as bad as it could be. There are only 2 teams in the MASCAC without a loss right now, West Con and MMA, Chicago is the only UAA team without a loss, TLU is the only SCAC team without a loss, and the SAA all has to face each other. So while there are 3 without a loss now, only one can end that way. And if it is B-SC, they have to get over Wesley this weekend to go to the top of the pecking order.

And now that I've done that, it's way too early to go through hypotheticals and I'm really looking forward to seeing Wesley play B-SC this weekend. Any of the Wesley crowd coming down?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 24, 2013, 11:41:15 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 24, 2013, 11:07:47 AM
Thanks Pat. On the ball as always. I guess it's not as bad as it could be. There are only 2 teams in the MASCAC without a loss right now, West Con and MMA, Chicago is the only UAA team without a loss, TLU is the only SCAC team without a loss, and the SAA all has to face each other. So while there are 3 without a loss now, only one can end that way. And if it is B-SC, they have to get over Wesley this weekend to go to the top of the pecking order.

And now that I've done that, it's way too early to go through hypotheticals and I'm really looking forward to seeing Wesley play B-SC this weekend. Any of the Wesley crowd coming down?

That may be true, but those two teams, IMHO are not the best teams, we will have a clear picture in the next few weeks. I think their may be two 9-1 teams at the end of the year for the MASCAC, they may have a slight chance of two...However, with only three weeks into the season, it is very hypothetical, yet interesting to think about.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 24, 2013, 03:04:00 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on September 24, 2013, 11:41:15 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 24, 2013, 11:07:47 AM
Thanks Pat. On the ball as always. I guess it's not as bad as it could be. There are only 2 teams in the MASCAC without a loss right now, West Con and MMA, Chicago is the only UAA team without a loss, TLU is the only SCAC team without a loss, and the SAA all has to face each other. So while there are 3 without a loss now, only one can end that way. And if it is B-SC, they have to get over Wesley this weekend to go to the top of the pecking order.

And now that I've done that, it's way too early to go through hypotheticals and I'm really looking forward to seeing Wesley play B-SC this weekend. Any of the Wesley crowd coming down?

That may be true, but those two teams, IMHO are not the best teams, we will have a clear picture in the next few weeks. I think their may be two 9-1 teams at the end of the year for the MASCAC, they may have a slight chance of two...However, with only three weeks into the season, it is very hypothetical, yet interesting to think about.

No doubt that strength of schedule counts!  Wesley has already faced 3 pre-season ranked teams.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 24, 2013, 10:13:44 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 24, 2013, 03:04:00 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on September 24, 2013, 11:41:15 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 24, 2013, 11:07:47 AM
Thanks Pat. On the ball as always. I guess it's not as bad as it could be. There are only 2 teams in the MASCAC without a loss right now, West Con and MMA, Chicago is the only UAA team without a loss, TLU is the only SCAC team without a loss, and the SAA all has to face each other. So while there are 3 without a loss now, only one can end that way. And if it is B-SC, they have to get over Wesley this weekend to go to the top of the pecking order.

And now that I've done that, it's way too early to go through hypotheticals and I'm really looking forward to seeing Wesley play B-SC this weekend. Any of the Wesley crowd coming down?

That may be true, but those two teams, IMHO are not the best teams, we will have a clear picture in the next few weeks. I think their may be two 9-1 teams at the end of the year for the MASCAC, they may have a slight chance of two...However, with only three weeks into the season, it is very hypothetical, yet interesting to think about.

No doubt that strength of schedule counts!  Wesley has already faced 3 pre-season ranked teams.

-Ski
For the newbies, D3football.com or AFCA Top 25 rankings are not considered in the Strength of schedule.  Usually those teams are found in other criteria tho'.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 26, 2013, 03:12:25 PM
Well, here's looking at Saturday...... I think if Wesley can regroup, then they should be able to handle Birmingham Southern, considering their close victories so far this year.  It will be a test, but Wesley has shown some serious resilience through the years in face of adversity and come out on top.  I see this as another opportunity to prove that.  If the offensive line can fire off the line quicker, that will go a long way in getting Callahan the time he needs to execute.  If the defense can mitigate the big plays, they will be just fine.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 27, 2013, 01:50:16 PM
Looking at the BSC-Stetson game, Stetson turned the ball over 6 times to BSC's 4. BSC fumbled 4 times, and Beachem threw two picks. I dont think Wesley will be giving the ball up that much (knock on wood). Wesley should come into Alabama with a little fire under them after last week. They are no stranger to resilience and adversity. I do not think UMHB is 28 points better than Wesley (as I said before, 05 Brockport wasnt 47 points better than 05 Wesley). Not saying Brockport and UMHB are close to the same level or anything, BUT the 05 Wesley team did come out and monkey stomp a nationally ranked Salisbury 63-19 the following week. New game, new week.

Also not that this stat holds too much bearing but I will share anyway just for fun  ;D: After regular season losses since 2003, Wesley's record for the week after is 9-1. The sole loss coming against Rowan 30-0 in 2003. In games after losses, Wesley has shut out their opponent 6 of the 9 times. Wesley averages 39.9 pts per game, the defense gives up an average 7.2 pts per game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 27, 2013, 02:25:15 PM
O line, O line, O line.  In the end that will be the whole game.  Birm South will be athletic and present problems to the O lline.  If the O line struggles Wesley will have a tough time.  The offense needs to be able to put drives together and take time off the clock.  Also, the defense seems to be behind at the beginning of the game.  Wesley has played from behind in all 3 games.  The adjustments are nice but they need to take the game over from the start.  There is something missing from this team this year from what I have seen in the 2 games.  Calling on past history will not get them this win.  This team has to step it up and gain an identity of it's own.  This game is worrisome in that the team is flying on back to back weeks and the routine is thrown off.  Seems like Wesley should win the game, but they are going to have to work for it.

Waterboy, after watching Wesley play Salisbury and UMHB, I would have to disagree with you about one thing.  At this time, UMHB is more than 28 points better than Wesley.  That game could have been real ugly had UMHB not turned the ball over.  We will see as the season plays out, but Wesley needs to really improve to challenge UMHB.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on September 27, 2013, 05:56:26 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 27, 2013, 01:50:16 PM
Looking at the BSC-Stetson game, Stetson turned the ball over 6 times to BSC's 4. BSC fumbled 4 times, and Beachem threw two picks. I dont think Wesley will be giving the ball up that much (knock on wood). Wesley should come into Alabama with a little fire under them after last week. They are no stranger to resilience and adversity. I do not think UMHB is 28 points better than Wesley (as I said before, 05 Brockport wasnt 47 points better than 05 Wesley). Not saying Brockport and UMHB are close to the same level or anything, BUT the 05 Wesley team did come out and monkey stomp a nationally ranked Salisbury 63-19 the following week. New game, new week.



I'm not so sure about this. Looking at it as objectively as possible, UMHB really suprised me with their defense--watching on the internet really doesn't do them justice--as their DLine seemed like ravenous wolves on Saturday. The word I hear is that this D could be one of the best we've had. If we had LB this year, I think the score would have been a lot worse. With a sophomore QB in there, Wesley really took advantage of his indecisiveness at times. There were several plays where he had guys wide open and ran when he shouldn't have, and other times where he should have run and didn't. Anderson could be a great quarterback, and if he can get it together even more, this COULD be UMHB's year to go back to the Stagg.

Our D will definitely be tested in the ASC as scoring has been prolific at times. We shall see. Good luck the rest of the way out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 27, 2013, 11:23:12 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 27, 2013, 02:25:15 PM
O line, O line, O line.  In the end that will be the whole game.

Couldn't agree more.  Callahan has potential to do some good things but has to get some time back there to do them.  Coach has to help out the offense a little by calling plays that protect some of their weaknesses and give him a fighting chance to make something happen.  The one big positive though is that the offensive line is very young and should only get better with time and experience.  Watching them mature along with Callahan could be a beautiful thing over the next couple years.  Not counting this season out just yet, but I think it will continue to be a tough one.  We're headed out bright and early Saturday morning for the game - hope it's a good one!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 28, 2013, 02:13:25 PM
purchased the video.  nice first drive.  o line looked ok opening some wholes.  nice running game so far.  bad snap and wesley takes 9 - 0.  lead.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 28, 2013, 02:23:22 PM
total domination early.  wesley looks huge compared to bsc.  defense is attacking and the offense is balanced with plenty of time for callahan.  keep it up.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 28, 2013, 02:26:43 PM
wow, 2 fumble returns for TD's.  it is ugly early.  nice job by the defense.  looks like a completely different team from the last 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 28, 2013, 03:21:30 PM
Nice to see us recover from last week so well, but the offense still only has what, 14 points? No disrespect to BSC but our offense has to do better than that. However, hopefully that good opening drive will serve as a confidence builder and lead to bigger and better things. And good job by the kicker so far this week :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 28, 2013, 03:32:54 PM
All we know about this game is BSC made a ton of mistakes and Wesley is too good to let them get away with it. 37-0 at half
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 28, 2013, 03:45:36 PM
I was wondering when we would get a good barometer of the SAA.  I think that we have UMHB by a mile, then Wesley by a half-mile and then everyone else.  JHU is probably close, but they play in a different strata of D-3.  I am not being disparaging of JHU, but you have to go about "8 degrees of Kevin Bacon" to find comparables between UMHB/Wesley and JHU.

Right now, my thought is that JHU would host the second round game between Wesley and JHU.  The winner would fly to Texas.

We are getting great cross country matchups this season. Linfield has played three credible non-conference opponents.  UMHB has played 3 credible non-conference opponents.  Wesley's schedule will help us connect most of the South and some of the East.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 28, 2013, 04:05:37 PM
Wow, 37 points in the first quarter!!  When was the last time Wesley did that?  21 of those points were defensive.  I caught the halftime score coming back from Salisbury on a school trip there and could barely hear Sean call out the 37-0 score as WDEL came into range.  Amazing......  Well, I guess we know where Wesley stands this year.  Keep it up!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 28, 2013, 04:19:17 PM
OK, when was the last time you saw a team score on both a safety AND a 2 point PAT return in the same game??  Wesley just did.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 28, 2013, 04:33:25 PM
Wow what a response from last week. Totally different team. They definitely grew from that loss.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 28, 2013, 04:46:44 PM
offensive line showed some improvement.  will have to keep improving.  huntington comes in next week and they gave up 30 plus to ferrum.  wesley should be able to score on them.  the defense has to remain aggressive.  too many penalties late in the game, cant return to that type of play.  keep it clean especially when winning by so much.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 28, 2013, 05:22:32 PM
Was happy to see us use a big, sure handed tight end today. Where's he been??? Also encouraging to see some other running backs play well - his name escapes me at the moment (either #30 or #34),but one of them seemed to have a really good feel for finding the holes the line was making.

And many thanks to all the nice folks in AL, as everyone made as feel so welcome. BSC has an attractive facility and great fans. Hope they have a good rest of their season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 28, 2013, 05:32:40 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 28, 2013, 04:46:44 PM
offensive line showed some improvement.  will have to keep improving.  huntington comes in next week and they gave up 30 plus to ferrum.  wesley should be able to score on them.  the defense has to remain aggressive. too many penalties late in the game, cant return to that type of play.  keep it clean especially when winning by so much.

Seems like that has been an issue for years. However, you guys came back and told the nation that Defense wins championships. Looking at the box score, this game reminds me how UW-W got out on Buff St. last week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 28, 2013, 06:36:08 PM
That was not an entertaining game. Wesley pretty much ran away with it in the first quarter, able to move the ball at will on 2 drives as well as capitalizing on a metric ton of B-SC unforced mistakes and bad play.

I'm not sure what to take from this game. Clearly, Wesley was the better team. That is not in question. I just have no idea how good Wesley is because B-SC was so incredibly bad in the first quarter. After the first quarter, it was a much more even game, but I think a lot of that was Wesley simply not needing to have the foot on the pedal.

I don't know guys. The Wesley team I saw last year would have easily beaten the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarter Wesley team I saw today. However, there is just no way of knowing what those quarters meant. If I was a team with a long ride two weeks in a row and was well out in front after one quarter against a team that couldn't do anything right, I probably would have snoozed through the rest as well.

Wesley is good. They go back to being my second best team in the South because I didn't see any real weaknesses other than the seemingly ever present penalties. I just have to believe Salisbury played them tight in a rivalry and UMHB is just that good on opening night in their new stadium. But I admit I have no idea how good Wesley might be thanks to the way the game went.

Congratulations on the win and good luck the rest of the way.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 29, 2013, 08:00:11 PM
Wesley bumped up one spot to 10th.  Next week will be another good game with Huntingdon in town.  I don't think I will be as lucky this time around to catch it.  I know the Wolverines will be pumped up for the game. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on September 29, 2013, 09:08:06 PM
I hope the Hawks can give yall as good a game as last year , and maybe with a little luck..............

well, slap back to reality
i want to make the trip to dover, one of these days

keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 30, 2013, 09:49:44 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 29, 2013, 09:08:06 PM
I hope the Hawks can give yall as good a game as last year , and maybe with a little luck..............

well, slap back to reality
i want to make the trip to dover, one of these days

keep the faith

DG I hope your boys don't do what BSC did and lose in the first 5 minutes of the game. I'm just glad you guys won when I was there week before last, otherwise I'd feel I really am a jinx for the home team!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on September 30, 2013, 12:58:14 PM
jknezek

hero.... i am not gonna make the trip to Del, and ...as every time i have watched the Hawks play Wesley, we have lost, perhaps i am the jinx  :(
so maybe me staying at home will give the Hawks luck  ;D

stay safe, keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 30, 2013, 01:22:37 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 30, 2013, 12:58:14 PM
i am not gonna make the trip to Del, and ...as every time i have watched the Hawks play Wesley, we have lost, perhaps i am the jinx  :(
so maybe me staying at home will give the Hawks luck  ;D

I would say in the last 5-10 years there are a lot of fans that have mostly, or only, seen their team lose to Wesley. Take on the big boys and it sure is hard to get the big Ws.

All I can say is you can't do worse than BSC, here's a 1st qtr synopsis.

Kick to Wesley, 5 minute drive for a TD   7-0
Receive kick, 6 play drive, snap punt into endzone for safety  9-0
Kick to Wesley, 3.5 minute drive for TD  16-0
Receive kick, 1 play drive fumble returned for TD  23-0
Receive kick, 6 play drive fumble returned for TD 30-0
Receive kick, 3 and out, punt
*** Wesley goes 4 and out and punts *** minor miracle
Receive punt, 3 play drive, interception returned for TD  37-0

End of First Qtr

That interception, by the way, was the ugliest thing I've seen on a football field in a long time. The QB shovel passed it to the Wesley defender who went 85 yards the other way.

Then the game got boring until BSC managed to miss one extra point, miss a second extra point, get a mulligan thanks to Wesley being offside, and then send out the 2 pt team who managed to get picked in the endzone and have the kid run it 104 yards the other direction for a second safety. Excluding the shovel pass pick 6, that might have been the ugliest thing I've seen on a football field in a long time.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 01, 2013, 09:51:34 PM

That interception, by the way, was the ugliest thing I've seen on a football field in a long time. The QB shovel passed it to the Wesley defender who went 85 yards the other way.
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Ha ha - I would beg to differ as I thought it was one of the most beautiful things we saw all day! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on October 01, 2013, 10:14:50 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 30, 2013, 01:22:37 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 30, 2013, 12:58:14 PM
i am not gonna make the trip to Del, and ...as every time i have watched the Hawks play Wesley, we have lost, perhaps i am the jinx  :(
so maybe me staying at home will give the Hawks luck  ;D

I would say in the last 5-10 years there are a lot of fans that have mostly, or only, seen their team lose to Wesley. Take on the big boys and it sure is hard to get the big Ws.

All I can say is you can't do worse than BSC, here's a 1st qtr synopsis.

Kick to Wesley, 5 minute drive for a TD   7-0
Receive kick, 6 play drive, snap punt into endzone for safety  9-0
Kick to Wesley, 3.5 minute drive for TD  16-0
Receive kick, 1 play drive fumble returned for TD  23-0
Receive kick, 6 play drive fumble returned for TD 30-0
Receive kick, 3 and out, punt
*** Wesley goes 4 and out and punts *** minor miracle
Receive punt, 3 play drive, interception returned for TD  37-0

End of First Qtr

That interception, by the way, was the ugliest thing I've seen on a football field in a long time. The QB shovel passed it to the Wesley defender who went 85 yards the other way.

Then the game got boring until BSC managed to miss one extra point, miss a second extra point, get a mulligan thanks to Wesley being offside, and then send out the 2 pt team who managed to get picked in the endzone and have the kid run it 104 yards the other direction for a second safety. Excluding the shovel pass pick 6, that might have been the ugliest thing I've seen on a football field in a long time.

That whole BSC first quarter might have been the ugliest thing i've read about on a football field in a long time!!  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 05, 2013, 01:52:46 AM
GAME DAY!!!!

Good luck out there today Wesley!  Keep sharp, keep quick and you will win this one!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 05, 2013, 08:56:23 AM
interested in seeing this game.  I am hoping to see the same defensive effort as last week.  Aggressive, but under control.  The O line will have to keep improving, but it looks like Huntington gives up some points so the O should be able to move the ball.  I dont think it will be as easy as the BSC game was but I do expect Wesley to win this one.  Big game for the wolverines, must win to keep playoff hopes alive.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 05, 2013, 03:18:32 PM
Well Wesley hangs on again. They played better as the game went on. They are still making mistakes that a #10 team doesnt make (i.e. 2 botched snaps), and Huntingdon cashed in on them.

It was nice to see a running game come on late after the adjustment to the 5 WR look, which was a good adjustment in itself. This team seems to have a lot of talent, just havent harnessed it yet.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 05, 2013, 03:45:47 PM
I got to see part of the first quarter and into half of the second for lunch today.  It was frustrating to see the running game getting swallowed up by Huntingdon's defense.  I left right before Huntingdon went up 7-3. 

Anyways, a lot of work to do on the offense without a doubt.  I know the Wolverines were able to get the ball moving in the second half, but they are nowhere near where they need to be at this point in the season.  Listening to Coach Drass on WDEL on my way home made that point clear.

So, Huntingdon played tough as I thought they would.  It will always be that way as they show up with revenge in their eyes.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on October 05, 2013, 03:58:43 PM
Close game today for Wesley. Watched the game intermittently. Looked as if Wesley's pass defense was a little off today but the running game looked good the times I saw.

I think UMHB was just amped up the first week at home and really didn't want anyone winning the first game at home. Last week they played uninspired ball against Sul Ross State University. We'll see how they do against a hungry Trinity team.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 05, 2013, 05:10:43 PM
the first half was dreadful for both teams on offense.  Too many mistakes by Wesley on offense.  botched snaps, wrong formations, etc, etc.  At one point in the game the best offensive play Wesley has was for Callahan to run for his life to avoid the rush and then find a receiver who got open.  Eventually the offense got going and pulled out the win.  The real positive to me was that it looks like Wesley may have found a running back, Jackson runs hard to the whole and makes people miss in the open field.  I hope that he will be the featured back from here on out.  The defense was not very aggressive and that allowed Huntingdon to move the ball.  They did what they needed to to be in the game, just not enough to win.  Still dont look like a team that can seriously contend for a national title.  Still have time to fix things but have to start next week.  The O line did a much better job in the second half when Wesley abandoned the run to get back into the game.  A win is a win and was needed. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 05, 2013, 05:45:06 PM
I think they abandoned the run early, but establishing it later was what got the offense rolling late.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 05, 2013, 10:33:26 PM
Agree with Wesley Dad.  Offense just looked confused most of the game.   I was suprised that the tight end (44) didn't get more touches today after he was used so well last week. Did I hear correctly that he's a transfer from Rutgers? Even though it's a little painful to watch now, the potential of this offensive unit is huge as they gain more experience playing at this level and with one another.  Question is whether they get it together fast enough to do something this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on October 06, 2013, 01:46:46 AM
Wesley Dad &  DE... even sloppy yall are better than us. ???
But... we are still trying to get better each year.
I hope yall win the rest of yalls games, and hope yall get to the Stagg
good luck
keep the faith
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 06, 2013, 09:31:53 AM
dgpugh, your have a nice team.  they get after it on defense which will make it tough on anyone you play.  the offense seems a little predictable, but they did move the ball with short passes and broken tackles.  you have some tall receivers who can play.  all in all you will win most of them, if not all of them that you have left.  do that and you are in the playoffs since cnu lost yesterday.

as far as the stagg goes, I know I will be there.  as far as this wesley team, they need to improve plenty between now and the playoffs, assuming they win the rest of them.  they have a huge gap to close with UMHB, but I think they can.  Plenty of talent on Offense, just wish they didnt look so confused so often.  having to call a timeout after a timeout was the icing on the cake yesterday.  If Jackson shows up each week and can run like he did yesterday this could be a real good team.  Once he showed he could run the ball the O line was able to give callahan time and he found the open receivers.  the defense seemed to be on it's heels and one cornerback, eventhough he had an interception on an underthrown ball was chasing his receivers all game.  Kapepula, #1, is a beast and messes up plenty of offensive ideas.  Looking for a total team effort in the next couple of weeks to see how good they really can be.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 06, 2013, 09:12:18 PM
  Jackson had a real good game yesterday. He has the ability to cut while going forward which is a big plus for a running back. Some of the confusion in sets yesterday was caused by players filling in for others out of their normal sets. The O line look good most of the day. Callahan seemed to be uncertain on some passes but he is young too. Considering every team Wesley has played up to now sans Salisbury has been undefeated , I'd say they are doing OK
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 08, 2013, 10:03:42 PM
Virginia-Lynchburg this week. Itll be interesting to see how Wesley handles a quarterback that is a little more mobile than the past few weeks. Looking at the boxscores, VUL can commit plenty of penalties. It'll be a decent test for Wesley to see if they can play cleanly and what they can do with those big VUL linemen.

We are entering the stretch of the season now where it will be evident of Wesley's true play coming to an end against UNC-Charlotte. That game will tell us how far this team will go. O line played well against Huntingdon (0 sacks allowed, running game etc). Build off of that and they will be fun to watch.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 12, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
not making the trip today.  will be interested to see if wesley can keep running the football like they did last week.  the o line will have a challenge if Lynchburg comes with the big boys on the d line.  play a good game and no injuries.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 12, 2013, 02:34:35 PM
Not a pretty first half for the Wesley offense. Callahan under 50% and essentially no running game.

Defense is pretty stellar tho. Disrupting VUL big time. At the rate Kapepula is scoring TDs (or at least close to scoring them) why dont we just put him on offense.  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 12, 2013, 10:03:02 PM
Well done Wesley!  The defense is taking care of business and that is a good thing!  I showed up over lunch before the game started and chatted up some of the coaches and fans.  Even though I had to miss the game due to my afternoon class, at least I was able to have some burgers from the concession, hehehehe....

Onto Rowan next week.  Again, if Wesley sticks to its game plan, it should be a another one in the "W" column.  But they need to be quick and stay sharp!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 13, 2013, 09:59:31 AM
nice win.  took care of business and the defense is starting to look like we expected it to look all season.  O line must have done ok since wesley was able to run the ball.  still dont know why Jackson is not the featured back.  seems to be the only one who can get yards consistantly.  next weeks game looked interesting when it came out on the schedule, but rowan's struggles seems to have taken the luster off it some.  if the wesley defense plays like it did this week rowan will struggle scoring.  I saw their game with Del Val and they have a basic offense with not much speed.  Wesley O has to keep improving and running the ball.  starting to look like this team may have a chance to make some noise in the playoffs.  I think they are closing the gap with UMHB, still a ways to go, but moving in the right direction.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 13, 2013, 03:29:05 PM
Am I just being too critical in being extremely frustrated with the offense?  We had some success moving down the field, but struggled mightily getting into the end zone and settled for way too many field goals.  Obviously not a big deal for this game, but not enough to get you a win against a quality team.  The plus side of that was getting to see us use another kicker who seemed to do just fine.  There was very little rhythm between Callahan and the receivers, and he was throwing the ball way too high most times.  He's shown he's better than that, so not real sure what the problem was.  Defense really stepped up for this game.  Wescott had one of the best games I've seen from him in awhile.  All that said, VUL has truly massive players.  We were walking in as they were walking onto the field and all I can say is "wow".   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 13, 2013, 03:50:04 PM
de wesley fan

  T tail wind had a big effect on those long passes and really they weren't off by much.  We had 3 TDs disallowed ,two on step outs and a bad call by a side judge. If anything VLU 's best players were their LBS. I will take points every time if it's LOL. I hope Herald is OK he did not look good coming off the field and then they stretchered him off the side lines a few minutes later


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 13, 2013, 06:26:46 PM
I didn't hear about Herald.  I hope he is OK.  More to follow on that I am sure.  VUL always has giant players.  This is a given every time Wesley plays them.  I recall the first game between the the two and looking down the VUL roster with players 6'6", 380lbs while on the team bus and thinking that the stats had to  be padded.  Well, they weren't!  Looking over the team in warm-up before the game, things changed little three years later.  Big boys with little helmets.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 13, 2013, 10:24:56 PM
Heartily agree that hopefully the young man's injury isn't serious.  He must have been in somewhat good spirits, as he said something to people along the railing as they were wheeling him out, and they laughed.  The injury bug has cetainly not been kind to us again this year.

PA_wesleyfan - I agree the wind was getting into the ball on some of the long throws, but we started drives in VUL territory 4 times and got 1 touchdown, threw an interception and settled for 2 field goals.  And one of those field goal drives started at the VUL 12.  Maybe the dampness and the feeling that we really didn't have to try too hard was playing a part in all that too.  In any case, on to bigger and better things and hopefully we look good in Rowan on Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 14, 2013, 01:02:00 AM
Well this game gave Wesley a chance to tune-up a few things. From the sounds of it, it seemed like VUL was throwing 7-8 guys in the box a lot of the time, jamming Wesley's receivers and throwing one safety overtop. Very unconventional but Wesley eventually got some penetration in the second half and got a nice running game going. This team is improving.

Rowan next week looks like a team that will not score a whole lot. Offense just doesnt seem to look explosive much at all. This is the game though to "punch Wesley's playoff ticket." Only D3 game that is left after this is Alfred State.

Also, I think its time for Wesley to get a new surface. Looking at photos and from being at the opener vs. Widener, it almost looks like the field is more rubber than actual turf.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 14, 2013, 04:14:00 PM
How long has this surface been in place? The life span is supposed to be 8-10 years.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rams1102 on October 14, 2013, 05:10:06 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 13, 2013, 09:59:31 AM
nice win.  took care of business and the defense is starting to look like we expected it to look all season.  O line must have done ok since wesley was able to run the ball.  still dont know why Jackson is not the featured back.  seems to be the only one who can get yards consistantly.  next weeks game looked interesting when it came out on the schedule, but rowan's struggles seems to have taken the luster off it some.  if the wesley defense plays like it did this week rowan will struggle scoring.  I saw their game with Del Val and they have a basic offense with not much speed.  Wesley O has to keep improving and running the ball.  starting to look like this team may have a chance to make some noise in the playoffs.  I think they are closing the gap with UMHB, still a ways to go, but moving in the right direction.

Hope all is well with you and your family. In my NJAC Pick-EM Contest I have Rowan +17.5 home against you guys. I'm sure the game will be on the OAC list and wonder how they see the game? Now go kick ass and take numbers. I'm taking you guys straight and with the spread and may both teams stay injury free. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 14, 2013, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on October 14, 2013, 05:10:06 PM

Hope all is well with you and your family. In my NJAC Pick-EM Contest I have Rowan +17.5 home against you guys. I'm sure the game will be on the OAC list and wonder how they see the game? Now go kick ass and take numbers. I'm taking you guys straight and with the spread and may both teams stay injury free. ;)

You mean +17.5 Wesley right?   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 14, 2013, 05:32:38 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 14, 2013, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on October 14, 2013, 05:10:06 PM

Hope all is well with you and your family. In my NJAC Pick-EM Contest I have Rowan +17.5 home against you guys. I'm sure the game will be on the OAC list and wonder how they see the game? Now go kick ass and take numbers. I'm taking you guys straight and with the spread and may both teams stay injury free. ;)

You mean +17.5 Wesley right?   ;)

-Ski

No, I think he is right. In your example you would have a negative 17.5, indicating that Wesley is favored by 17.5. In his example, he was saying that Rowan is expected to lose by 17.5.  ;D ;)

Regardless, games should always be decided on the field and not in 'Las Vegas' or 'Washington D.C.'
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 14, 2013, 05:35:40 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 14, 2013, 04:14:00 PM
How long has this surface been in place? The life span is supposed to be 8-10 years.

I want to say it was put in 2004, so it is getting old.  I'm not sure it needs to be replaced or reconditioned.  Unlike a lot of other schools, Wesley has a lot of different sports using a single field for both games and practice, so that definitely accelerates wear on it.  It is looking rather dark at the moment that is for sure.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 14, 2013, 10:11:52 PM
Pat

It may be almost 10 yrs>


It had rained and was raining hard by games end. There was a lot of slipping though.

I think the turf may need a good sweeping
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 15, 2013, 08:32:05 PM
Tenth year of the turf
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 19, 2013, 05:30:29 PM
Anyone else think, with Wesley's schedule and the fact that there are, right now, a bunch of worthy Pool B candidates, that they are in a lot of trouble? The best they can do, D3 wise, is 5-2. Now there could be some solid wins there, possible victories over the USASC champ and the possible E8 champ are very good, but if you get a couple Pool B teams going 10-0 (maybe Millsaps) or 9-1, 5-2 is going to look like absolute crud in comparison.

It's not that I don't think Wesley isn't at least a top 16 team, even after this loss, it's just that they are a poster child for schedule related failure this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 19, 2013, 05:52:29 PM
Who knows?  I am stunned Wesley lost.  But hey, it was bound to happen.  Another Montclair game where a Wesley QB throws an interception in the red zone to end the game.  Oh well, it is now up to the football gods to see if Wesley misses it's first playoff invitation in, what, like 7 years?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 19, 2013, 06:16:19 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 19, 2013, 05:52:29 PM
Who knows?  I am stunned Wesley lost.  But hey, it was bound to happen.  Another Montclair game where a Wesley QB throws an interception in the red zone to end the game.  Oh well, it is now up to the football gods to see if Wesley misses it's first playoff invitation in, what, like 7 years?

-Ski


Maybe more like ten years thinking about it.  The only thing that will save the team is their strength of schedule.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 19, 2013, 10:39:13 PM
It pains me to say this, but I don't know how strongly I could argue that we deserve a playoff spot this year.  Strength of schedule is obviously on our side, but unless there is a marked improvement over these last couple games I don't know how well we'd do even if we do manage to sneak in.  The offense had the same issues today as they've had most of the year, only magnified because we were playing a better team - inefficiency in the red zone, inconsistent line play, poor decision making by the QB.  Almost seems like that aspect of the game is getting worse instead of better.  Of course we do have flashes of greatness sprinkled in, and I truly believe this group will be a force to be reckoned with next year after having more time to play together and getting more experience.  Defense played well again this week, considering how much they were on the field, except for that last huge touchdown given up.

I have to give the offense credit for one play where they took a huge negative and turned into something positive.  In the 4th quarter, I believe it was 4th down around the 50.  Callahan wasn't ready for the snap and bobbled it, ended up in Jackson's hands and he scrambled around a bit with the defense coming at him.  Receivers worked back to him and he managed to throw it and get a completed pass.  Most amazing thing of it all was that there were no linemen down field (or at least not that were seen by the officials) after all that scrambling.  Great reminder of what is so much fun about watching this game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 19, 2013, 10:42:13 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on October 19, 2013, 10:39:13 PM
It pains me to say this, but I don't know how strongly I could argue that we deserve a playoff spot this year.  Strength of schedule is obviously on our side, but unless there is a marked improvement over these last couple games I don't know how well we'd do even if we do manage to sneak in.  The offense had the same issues today as they've had most of the year, only magnified because we were playing a better team - inefficiency in the red zone, inconsistent line play, poor decision making by the QB.  Almost seems like that aspect of the game is getting worse instead of better.  Of course we do have flashes of greatness sprinkled in, and I truly believe this group will be a force to be reckoned with next year after having more time to play together and getting more experience.  Defense played well again this week, considering how much they were on the field, except for that last huge touchdown given up.

I have to give the offense credit for one play where they took a huge negative and turned into something positive.  In the 4th quarter, I believe it was 4th down around the 50.  Callahan wasn't ready for the snap and bobbled it, ended up in Jackson's hands and he scrambled around a bit with the defense coming at him.  Receivers worked back to him and he managed to throw it and get a completed pass.  Most amazing thing of it all was that there were no linemen down field (or at least not that were seen by the officials) after all that scrambling.  Great reminder of what is so much fun about watching this game.

That happened a couple times during the game for Callahan as well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on October 19, 2013, 11:19:45 PM
Quoteit's just that they are a poster child for schedule related failure this year.

Ditto.

Wesley's worthy opponent would like to see them get into a DIII  conference and quit messing up a great program.


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 19, 2013, 11:30:41 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on October 19, 2013, 11:19:45 PM
Quoteit's just that they are a poster child for schedule related failure this year.

Ditto.

Wesley's worthy opponent would like to see them get into a DIII  conference and quit messing up a great program.

It is such as shame that no one would make an exception and allow them in a conference, but certain conferences have rules that Wesley can abide by such as player roster (i.e. NJAC), which seems like the most reasonable conference or somehow wait it out until the Capital Athletic Conference comes around or do something like Galla-Det and join the ECFC, that would definitely help their conference.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pumkinattack on October 20, 2013, 06:41:54 AM
I've never been a big fan of the NJAC, but if the other schools have agreed to it, I have no problem with them not making a roster exception for a different school.  If it were important enough to Wesley to be in a conference like the NJAC then they should pare the roster to join.  I don't have a problem with Wesley's choice to not do so either, but it would be unfair to blame the NJAC for not allowing an exception (especially in a state that has a credit rating in he bottom third of the country and can seen by their muni credit spreads, where state funded higher education is subsidized and tuition is not a money maker for most of these state schools).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 20, 2013, 08:42:39 AM
Quote from: jknezek on October 19, 2013, 05:30:29 PM
Anyone else think, with Wesley's schedule and the fact that there are, right now, a bunch of worthy Pool B candidates, that they are in a lot of trouble? The best they can do, D3 wise, is 5-2. Now there could be some solid wins there, possible victories over the USASC champ and the possible E8 champ are very good, but if you get a couple Pool B teams going 10-0 (maybe Millsaps) or 9-1, 5-2 is going to look like absolute crud in comparison.

It's not that I don't think Wesley isn't at least a top 16 team, even after this loss, it's just that they are a poster child for schedule related failure this year.

JK, good question.  no excuse to lose this game.  I am not even sure if they are a top 16 team if they do not show any improvement.  They lost to Rowan who lost to Morrisville St. who lost to UCNJ.  I know that putting a string together like that means nothing but it does show that if Wesley is a top team they dont lose a game like yesterday.  As far as the playoffs go, are they better than all but a couple or maybe all of the pool B teams, probably.  Do they get in, probably not.  The scary part about this is that there would not be many teams that would want to see there name in the first round because if they clean up the mess, they would be a top 8 team.  Too many ifs.  Bottom line if you want to win it all you cant lose this type of game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 20, 2013, 08:56:01 AM
Did any of the Wesley posters actually make it to the game?  I would be interested in hearing how it looked as it played out.  I didn't go because I made my annual trek to Bridgewater to see some friends.  I made the trip figuring that this would not be a good game thinking that if Morrisville can score 40 so would Wesley.  Sounds like too many mistakes.  The pick 6 is a real killer.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 20, 2013, 09:25:14 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 20, 2013, 08:42:39 AM
Quote from: jknezek on October 19, 2013, 05:30:29 PM
Anyone else think, with Wesley's schedule and the fact that there are, right now, a bunch of worthy Pool B candidates, that they are in a lot of trouble? The best they can do, D3 wise, is 5-2. Now there could be some solid wins there, possible victories over the USASC champ and the possible E8 champ are very good, but if you get a couple Pool B teams going 10-0 (maybe Millsaps) or 9-1, 5-2 is going to look like absolute crud in comparison.

It's not that I don't think Wesley isn't at least a top 16 team, even after this loss, it's just that they are a poster child for schedule related failure this year.


JK, good question.  no excuse to lose this game.  I am not even sure if they are a top 16 team if they do not show any improvement.  They lost to Rowan who lost to Morrisville St. who lost to UCNJ.  I know that putting a string together like that means nothing but it does show that if Wesley is a top team they dont lose a game like yesterday.  As far as the playoffs go, are they better than all but a couple or maybe all of the pool B teams, probably.  Do they get in, probably not.  The scary part about this is that there would not be many teams that would want to see there name in the first round because if they clean up the mess, they would be a top 8 team.  Too many ifs.  Bottom line if you want to win it all you cant lose this type of game.

JK, quick look at the other POOL B teams, not sure who they all are but if Chicago wins out and Millsaps wins out and Texas Luth losses 2 of the 3 against the ASC teams which they could easliy do than that would put most of pool B with at least 2 losses and even though Wesley would only be 5 - 2 in D3 games, their resume would look much better than most if not all the others even if those others are 7 - 2 or 8 - 2.  Past history also comes into play and that looks good too.  With 2 losses they have no gripe if they dont get in not matter how it plays out.  I know you are much better at the Pool teams and have excellent insight into who is in what.  Will look forward to your breakdown of who gets in this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 20, 2013, 01:15:16 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 20, 2013, 08:56:01 AM
Did any of the Wesley posters actually make it to the game?  I would be interested in hearing how it looked as it played out.  I didn't go because I made my annual trek to Bridgewater to see some friends.  I made the trip figuring that this would not be a good game thinking that if Morrisville can score 40 so would Wesley.  Sounds like too many mistakes.  The pick 6 is a real killer.

Was not at the game personally, but watch the game online. From my perspective, it appears that every time Wesley had a chance to score, it was a turnover or penalty that kept them from advancing. Both teams had big plays throughout the game, but Rowan made more and that's how the game was decided. I still think that Wesley Defense was pretty good, the offense yesterday, meh.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 20, 2013, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 20, 2013, 09:25:14 AM

JK, quick look at the other POOL B teams, not sure who they all are but if Chicago wins out and Millsaps wins out and Texas Luth losses 2 of the 3 against the ASC teams which they could easliy do than that would put most of pool B with at least 2 losses and even though Wesley would only be 5 - 2 in D3 games, their resume would look much better than most if not all the others even if those others are 7 - 2 or 8 - 2.  Past history also comes into play and that looks good too.  With 2 losses they have no gripe if they dont get in not matter how it plays out.  I know you are much better at the Pool teams and have excellent insight into who is in what.  Will look forward to your breakdown of who gets in this week.

It's the question I basically asked. Pool B consists of the SAA, MASCAC, UAA, SCAC and Wesley (more or less, there are a few more independents that won't come into the equation). The SAA has 3 teams in contention with Millsaps, Centre and Rhodes. The UAA has two teams in contention with Washington U and Chicago. The SCAC has one with TLU, and the MASCAC has one with Framingham St. Framingham St could easily go 9-1 and that will put them on the table, disrespected conference or not. We've seen the last couple years that wins are important.

The SAA has Millsaps undefeated and the other two with one loss each. Interestingly, both losses are to Washington U, who is looking sneaky good. I'll get to that in a minute. I could see two 9-1 teams coming from the SAA. Millsaps doesn't look overpoweringly good, and both Centre and Rhodes have interesting wins behind them. For Centre it is W&L and Bethany, who both hold interesting wins but will probably not ever get RR, for Rhodes it is Chicago. For Millsaps it is LaGrange and Trinity. This weekend Centre and Rhodes will play. Winner will have a good shot at Millsaps later on. But two teams in the 9-1 range from this grouping would make the discussion and would have some wins that look good enough.

The UAA has Chicago and Washington U. Chicago is 5-1, loss at Rhodes. There is still a game at Pacific and at Washington U to build a good resume. Running that table makes them a contender. The most interesting is Washington U. Two losses already but they are a 10pt loss to undefeated UWW on the road and 10pt loss to a 5-1 Coe, who also looks pretty good. Respectable losses paired with wins over Rhodes, Centre and possibly Chicago could have them looking good.

Finally, TLU comes around. The least impressive resume. A single win over an ailing Trinity program. The game against La Col will be very important. HSU and HPU could also provide some resistance.

So for Wesley's sake, 5-2 won't look good against the two SAA teams at 9-1 (if that happens. Millsaps running the table would take a spot, but help clean up the way for Wesley). Washington U at 8-2 looks better to me than Wesley at 5-2. The losses are as good as Wesley's (as it looks now), and the wins are going to include some RR teams. Chicago running the table at 9-1 will look good, but 8-2 with a loss to Washington U doesn't give them much for good wins. TLU controls it's own destiny. They need to lose no more than 1 game, and preferably not the La Col game since that is a chance to get a RR win. Framingham St. simply needs to win out. I can't see an 8-2 Framingham with no quality wins in front of Wesley unless the committee gets shirty.

It's still much too early to be thinking about this, but I was surprised Wesley lost. They just don't have much margin for error.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2013, 04:45:37 PM
 Youth showed yesterday. Callahan missed some open receivers and he also had some passes dropped. Rowan blitzed a lot . Remember that there are only 3 or 4 seniors on this team so there will be growing pains.. Wesley does have the second toughest strength of schedule so that may help in the playoff pic, plus they have beaten two teams who could win their conference and played 4
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2013, 05:12:34 PM
Pumkinattack

Wesley hasn't complained about the 100 player rule in the NJAC. I don't think most of the Wesley fans realize how much those extra players add to the college coffers. Rowan certainly looked like they had every bit of 100 players on their sidelines yesterday. I don't know how JV teams are figured into the numbers in the NJAC. I do know that they have another Capitol Conf. team playing in conference next year!


Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 20, 2013, 08:11:37 PM
Youth definitely showed here. Team still needs time to grow although there are flashes of brilliance. I still think Wesley is a worthy pool B candidate. No other team really surprises me. Wesley will still have wins over 2 potential conference winners, a very high SOS (higher than other pool B'ers), and if they are able to win out, a win over D1-FCS Charlotte will look good even though it will not technically be considered.

Headed out to Dover next weekend. Hope to see everyone there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on October 20, 2013, 10:18:41 PM
jknezek, Alfred State is still provisional Division III, so Wesley's Primary Criteria is actually complete at 4-2.  The good news for Wesley is their SOS won't take a hit with that Alfred State game.  Hard to believe as conference members go towards the .500 mean that Wesley's SOS would drop out of the Top 3.

I'm pretty much with you on the breakdown on what's to come.  I think Wesley vs. WashU could be an interesting comparison in the end.  I'd pay more attention to the strength of wins than looking at the losses.

Assuming WashU wins out the wins would be...

Wesley:  Widener, Huntingdon, Birmingham-Southern, Salisbury
WashU:  Rhodes, Centre, Berry, Hendrix, Carnagie Mellon, Case Western Reserve, Chicago

How many of those 11 teams end up regionally ranked could be the difference between very similar SOS's (Wesley 2, WashU 10 as of this typing) and two losses each.  We'll know a lot more after that Millsaps/Centre/Rhodes Round-Robin.  Centre's win over WashU could also end up being extremely valuable by the end, too.

This much is for sure... Wesley has 4 weeks where they can do extremely little to help their own case  (besides winning out and beating a I-AA team, which I still have a hard time didn't matter when putting them a seed ahead of Linfield when they beat Charleston Southern). 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 21, 2013, 12:15:11 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 20, 2013, 08:56:01 AM
Did any of the Wesley posters actually make it to the game?  I would be interested in hearing how it looked as it played out.  I didn't go because I made my annual trek to Bridgewater to see some friends.  I made the trip figuring that this would not be a good game thinking that if Morrisville can score 40 so would Wesley.  Sounds like too many mistakes.  The pick 6 is a real killer.

Yes, we were there.  Really just a replay of the same mistakes and issues we've seen all year.  Wesley had several chances to score touchdowns but just couldn't make it happen, and had too many 3 and outs.  I still really like Callahan, but some of his throws continue to be off and he has to make better decisions to prevent the interceptions.  Love his scrappiness and ability to run the ball when necessary though.  Offensive line was getting pushed around a bit, and we couldn't get much of a running game going.  However, I kind of felt like we gave up on the run with Jackson too soon and made ourselves too one dimensional.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 22, 2013, 07:31:51 AM
Former Wesley QB Shane McSweeny signed with the Lehigh Valley Steelhawks of the IFL recently.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pumkinattack on October 22, 2013, 11:12:43 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 20, 2013, 05:12:34 PM
Pumkinattack

Wesley hasn't complained about the 100 player rule in the NJAC. I don't think most of the Wesley fans realize how much those extra players add to the college coffers. Rowan certainly looked like they had every bit of 100 players on their sidelines yesterday. I don't know how JV teams are figured into the numbers in the NJAC. I do know that they have another Capitol Conf. team playing in conference next year!

I didn't suggest that anyone had, but was responding to the idea that an exception be made for them.  The NJAC does seem like the best fit, but I think if you guys join a conference it should be done on mutually agreeable terms.  There's already too many schools hooked up for convenience and to work within the framework of NCAA rules rather than conferences being made up schools that come together because they have common interests, relationships and goals.  It's happened in both the LL and E8 and it's been really crazy in d1 lacrosse, which I also follow closely w/Hobart.

I get the tuition factor, but I think it has more value for tuition dependent private schools than for appropriations dependent state schools, which is why I understand the roster limits the state school dominated conferences should prefer. 

I hope the CAC comes together soon and that's the right fit for you guys so you don't have to deal with your scheduling challenges too much longer.  Does seem like it sucks to not have a half dozen aligned or like minded regionally proximate schools that you can count on every year to fill the schedule.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 22, 2013, 11:20:34 PM
Maybe the Liberty league well invite them in ...lol
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: pumkinattack on October 23, 2013, 07:25:59 AM
I consider the core LL as Hobart, Union, RPI, Roch and SLU (I know Roch had the split affiliation for a long time, but the relationship with Hobart dates back 100 years and geography is part of like minded goals IMO).  WPI and MMA have been around since inception and I like them, but they're not full members and Springfield is new (convenient if they perform over time as historically as a bump in overall strength, but it also supports WPI who's been kicked around the league since day one and could easily have eyes for the NE conferences where they might find more success).  I had hoped we would've taken in IC when they came knocking a couple of years ago, but we went another direction. 

To me, WPI & MMA are sort of like what my old southern wife's grandfather told me when we moved south a few years ago and I suggested that I might become a southerner soon.  He pats me on the back to know I was ok with him and says "Son, you're just a Damn Yankee now.  In 20 or 30yrs you can hope to be just a Yankee, but we still love you." 

Conferences are supposed to be about affiliation between schools that have common interests, goals, etc.  Not just convenience for getting an AQ in NCAA playoff systems.  I laugh at Sals and Frostburg being in the E8 because they have nothing in common with the rest of the E8 schools, but their grip on an AQ # of teams is more tenuous.  Such is the nature and consequences of putting this system in place.  I'm all for fair access, but I seriously doubt anyone has really looked at a cost benefit analysis of how the system has created in some ways more instability and in some instances chaos.  Wesley needs to find a mid-atlantic type conference and given that Rowan is practically Delaware, I see them there, in the ODAC (though I suspect the overall institutions may not find much in common w/Wesley), CAC if it happens, or possibly the MAC which gets over to Philly. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 23, 2013, 09:19:05 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on October 23, 2013, 07:25:59 AM
  Wesley needs to find a mid-atlantic type conference and given that Rowan is practically Delaware, I see them there, in the ODAC (though I suspect the overall institutions may not find much in common w/Wesley), CAC if it happens, or possibly the MAC which gets over to Philly.

Actually there are several schools in the ODAC with similar characteristics to Wesley. E&H, Guilford and Shenandoah, just at a quick glance, have higher acceptance rates. Wesley is a small liberal arts school, with a size that fits in general into the ODAC. One of the bigger problems (excluding football dominance) would simply be distance. The longest trips right now in the ODAC are Guilford to Catholic or Shenandoah. Wesley would add almost 90 minutes more travel time, pushing trips over the 6.5 hour mark.

The ODAC has always been a compact conference, and I doubt anyone has a desire to change that. Especially since the conference doesn't NEED Wesley. If looking just as a football adjunct, the ODAC has 8 members, one over the required limit, and already has a football only member in Catholic that the conference probably wouldn't cry about losing (although scheduling is easier with 8 than 7). In terms of Wesley joining as a full member, the ODAC is already incredibly large in a lot sports, especially women's sports. For example, women's soccer has 13 teams, making a ridiculous schedule.

So there is no upside to the ODAC to inviting Wesley, and there are several downsides, not even considering the issue of football dominance. Somehow I don't think "just being right neighborly and helping them out" is going to win any kind of argument.

Wesley's best chance is to get a football playing CAC. They simply need a few more football playing members.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 23, 2013, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: jknezek on October 23, 2013, 09:19:05 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on October 23, 2013, 07:25:59 AM
  Wesley needs to find a mid-atlantic type conference and given that Rowan is practically Delaware, I see them there, in the ODAC (though I suspect the overall institutions may not find much in common w/Wesley), CAC if it happens, or possibly the MAC which gets over to Philly.

Actually there are several schools in the ODAC with similar characteristics to Wesley. E&H, Guilford and Shenandoah, just at a quick glance, have higher acceptance rates. Wesley is a small liberal arts school, with a size that fits in general into the ODAC. One of the bigger problems (excluding football dominance) would simply be distance. The longest trips right now in the ODAC are Guilford to Catholic or Shenandoah. Wesley would add almost 90 minutes more travel time, pushing trips over the 6.5 hour mark.
The ODAC has always been a compact conference, and I doubt anyone has a desire to change that. Especially since the conference doesn't NEED Wesley. If looking just as a football adjunct, the ODAC has 8 members, one over the required limit, and already has a football only member in Catholic that the conference probably wouldn't cry about losing (although scheduling is easier with 8 than 7). In terms of Wesley joining as a full member, the ODAC is already incredibly large in a lot sports, especially women's sports. For example, women's soccer has 13 teams, making a ridiculous schedule.

So there is no upside to the ODAC to inviting Wesley, and there are several downsides, not even considering the issue of football dominance. Somehow I don't think "just being right neighborly and helping them out" is going to win any kind of argument.

Wesley's best chance is to get a football playing CAC. They simply need a few more football playing members.

Six and half hours, that's nothing for the Wolverines.  ;D

Agreed CAC is best chance. That chance isn't looking promising in the near future unfortunately. Salisbury seems perfectly happy to keep winning the E8 (Frostburg certainly doesn't miss playing the Wolverines and their admin really doesn't give the program much support any more from what I have heard..not a priority) and So Virginia seems happy to affiliate with the NJAC. CNU will stay an USAC South affiliate as long as they will keep them because they always have a shot at the title.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 23, 2013, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on October 23, 2013, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: jknezek on October 23, 2013, 09:19:05 AM
Quote from: pumkinattack on October 23, 2013, 07:25:59 AM
  Wesley needs to find a mid-atlantic type conference and given that Rowan is practically Delaware, I see them there, in the ODAC (though I suspect the overall institutions may not find much in common w/Wesley), CAC if it happens, or possibly the MAC which gets over to Philly.

Actually there are several schools in the ODAC with similar characteristics to Wesley. E&H, Guilford and Shenandoah, just at a quick glance, have higher acceptance rates. Wesley is a small liberal arts school, with a size that fits in general into the ODAC. One of the bigger problems (excluding football dominance) would simply be distance. The longest trips right now in the ODAC are Guilford to Catholic or Shenandoah. Wesley would add almost 90 minutes more travel time, pushing trips over the 6.5 hour mark.
The ODAC has always been a compact conference, and I doubt anyone has a desire to change that. Especially since the conference doesn't NEED Wesley. If looking just as a football adjunct, the ODAC has 8 members, one over the required limit, and already has a football only member in Catholic that the conference probably wouldn't cry about losing (although scheduling is easier with 8 than 7). In terms of Wesley joining as a full member, the ODAC is already incredibly large in a lot sports, especially women's sports. For example, women's soccer has 13 teams, making a ridiculous schedule.

So there is no upside to the ODAC to inviting Wesley, and there are several downsides, not even considering the issue of football dominance. Somehow I don't think "just being right neighborly and helping them out" is going to win any kind of argument.

Wesley's best chance is to get a football playing CAC. They simply need a few more football playing members.

Six and half hours, that's nothing for the Wolverines.  ;D

Agreed CAC is best chance. That chance isn't looking promising in the near future unfortunately. Salisbury seems perfectly happy to keep winning the E8 (Frostburg certainly doesn't miss playing the Wolverines and their admin really doesn't give the program much support any more from what I have heard..not a priority) and So Virginia seems happy to affiliate with the NJAC. CNU will stay an USAC South affiliate as long as they will keep them because they always have a shot at the title.


And CNU is willing to drive to Huntingdon for games after this season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2013, 05:10:08 PM
 didn't Salisbury and Frostburg sign a two year deal with the E8? The timing of Wesleys slap on the wrist for the recruiting todo was right at the time of the E8 going after Sal and Fros. I don't know if Wesley was originally going to get an invite or not but that couldn't have helped
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 25, 2013, 09:27:53 PM
Well, Wesley has Menlo tomorrow, a game I will definitely miss due to class.... :P  Anyways, Wesley will have to rebound once again this year to get focused on the game.  I would expect nothing less.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 26, 2013, 07:16:05 PM
Came back from doing fieldwork today to eagerly check the score out.  It looks like the defense carried the day once again.  181 offensive yards total...... The offense has a lot of work to do over the bye-week to get ready for a team like Charlotte.   A win is a win, though.

-Skji
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 26, 2013, 11:03:50 PM
It's been a long time since I've seen a Wesley team come out so flat, and with such a lack of focus.  The offensive line had another poor performance - lots of penalties to go along with poor blocking.  Anyone else thinking that perhaps we're just trying to be too fancy on offense, with the frequent wholesale substitutions and so many types of formations?  Perhaps going back to a few basics and trying to do them well would do us some good.  Ski is right that defense saved the day.   Was glad to see Duke back after his previous injury, and Luke Maginnis had a very solid game.

And a Wesley home game is just not the same without Uncle Frank.......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 27, 2013, 08:33:56 AM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on October 26, 2013, 11:03:50 PM
It's been a long time since I've seen a Wesley team come out so flat, and with such a lack of focus.  The offensive line had another poor performance - lots of penalties to go along with poor blocking.  Anyone else thinking that perhaps we're just trying to be too fancy on offense, with the frequent wholesale substitutions and so many types of formations?  Perhaps going back to a few basics and trying to do them well would do us some good.  Ski is right that defense saved the day.   Was glad to see Duke back after his previous injury, and Luke Maginnis had a very solid game.

And a Wesley home game is just not the same without Uncle Frank.......

Did something happen to him?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wdelsean on October 27, 2013, 09:21:45 AM
Duke was pulled down very awkwardly on an interception (that was negated by penalty) against Lynchburg.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 27, 2013, 10:23:38 AM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on October 26, 2013, 11:03:50 PM
It's been a long time since I've seen a Wesley team come out so flat, and with such a lack of focus.  The offensive line had another poor performance - lots of penalties to go along with poor blocking.  Anyone else thinking that perhaps we're just trying to be too fancy on offense, with the frequent wholesale substitutions and so many types of formations?  Perhaps going back to a few basics and trying to do them well would do us some good.  Ski is right that defense saved the day.   Was glad to see Duke back after his previous injury, and Luke Maginnis had a very solid game.

And a Wesley home game is just not the same without Uncle Frank.......

Sean, could not agree more.  there are just too many changes on offense.  I was not at the game but did listen for a bit, family function got in the way.  In the early part of the game they had procedure after procedure penalties.  also, the o line looks totally confused as often as they seem to know what they are doing.  There have been injuries, but you would think that they would simplify it for the back ups who are now getting more playing time.  I know how complicated the offense can get and maybe you are right, simplify it and get good at something.  right now it seems like pot luck, you never know what is going to happen.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 27, 2013, 08:49:43 PM
 



  I know the Wesley team isn't quite where we thought they would be at this stage of the season but they are still our team!! If they weren't there wouldn't be this much bantering. I think I have said this before but this is as young a team as we have seen for a while. Talking about the games are one thing but beating up the players and the coaches t every turn is getting to be a bit much. I more than anyone have put my self out there trying over the years defending this program against all comers from the other leagues. I hope that I don't have to start with our own fans.. How about some positives instead of all this negativity!!!Week after week  i hear people in the stands ripping coaches and players. Those players have mothers and fathers in the crowd. The coaches have children and spouses and even parents in the crowd as well. I have been going to Wesley games for 19 yrs now and it's still uncomfortable for me to hear. I feel for those people who have to hear it every play of every game, If you want to critique the game fine but please think about this. I have always kept my thoughts to my self on this subject but I thought it was time to voice some of my concerns!

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 27, 2013, 11:19:42 PM
PA_Wesleyfan - sorry if my comments came across more harshly than intended, as I in no way meant to disparage anyone personally.    I have ties to a few on the team and have no doubt that all involved are trying to do their very best.  However, it's hard to talk about games this year without mentioning the obvious weaknesses and wondering out loud how they could be improved upon.  I love our Wolverines as much as ever, and wish for nothing but success.  Hopefully the off week will give us a chance to regroup a bit and finish out strong.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 28, 2013, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 27, 2013, 08:49:43 PM




  I know the Wesley team isn't quite where we thought they would be at this stage of the season but they are still our team!! If they weren't there wouldn't be this much bantering. I think I have said this before but this is as young a team as we have seen for a while. Talking about the games are one thing but beating up the players and the coaches t every turn is getting to be a bit much. I more than anyone have put my self out there trying over the years defending this program against all comers from the other leagues. I hope that I don't have to start with our own fans.. How about some positives instead of all this negativity!!!Week after week  i hear people in the stands ripping coaches and players. Those players have mothers and fathers in the crowd. The coaches have children and spouses and even parents in the crowd as well. I have been going to Wesley games for 19 yrs now and it's still uncomfortable for me to hear. I feel for those people who have to hear it every play of every game, If you want to critique the game fine but please think about this. I have always kept my thoughts to my self on this subject but I thought it was time to voice some of my concerns!

Pa Wesley, I do not think questioning whether the game plan could be simplified to make the team look better is bashing anyone.  I agree that you should contain your public comments to be as positive as possible, take it from me, got to hear plenty of stuff in the stands during jason's 4 years.  I think most of us have mentioned a positive that we have seen, but are frustrated by the continued mistakes week after week.  discussing them here is not an issue to me as that is what this board is for.  Public bashing is a whole different story.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 28, 2013, 11:47:44 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 28, 2013, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 27, 2013, 08:49:43 PM




  I know the Wesley team isn't quite where we thought they would be at this stage of the season but they are still our team!! If they weren't there wouldn't be this much bantering. I think I have said this before but this is as young a team as we have seen for a while. Talking about the games are one thing but beating up the players and the coaches t every turn is getting to be a bit much. I more than anyone have put my self out there trying over the years defending this program against all comers from the other leagues. I hope that I don't have to start with our own fans.. How about some positives instead of all this negativity!!!Week after week  i hear people in the stands ripping coaches and players. Those players have mothers and fathers in the crowd. The coaches have children and spouses and even parents in the crowd as well. I have been going to Wesley games for 19 yrs now and it's still uncomfortable for me to hear. I feel for those people who have to hear it every play of every game, If you want to critique the game fine but please think about this. I have always kept my thoughts to my self on this subject but I thought it was time to voice some of my concerns!

Pa Wesley, I do not think questioning whether the game plan could be simplified to make the team look better is bashing anyone.  I agree that you should contain your public comments to be as positive as possible, take it from me, got to hear plenty of stuff in the stands during jason's 4 years.  I think most of us have mentioned a positive that we have seen, but are frustrated by the continued mistakes week after week.  discussing them here is not an issue to me as that is what this board is for.  Public bashing is a whole different story.

Agree! +K
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on October 28, 2013, 12:46:35 PM
Second time today I have read about these "poor little 18-22 year olds". 

Please......that is just silly.  You realize that a large portion of the folks currently representing the U.S. in the armed services fall into that age category, right?

Some criticism on this board really isn't effecting those 18-22 year olds at all.  Now their 40-60 year old parents are another story.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 28, 2013, 02:31:48 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on October 28, 2013, 12:46:35 PM
Second time today I have read about these "poor little 18-22 year olds". 

Please......that is just silly.  You realize that a large portion of the folks currently representing the U.S. in the armed services fall into that age category, right?

Some criticism on this board really isn't effecting those 18-22 year olds at all.  Now their 40-60 year old parents are another story.   ;)

Hey skunk, good to hear from you.  I was figuring on going over to your board this week since you might have a game to actually talk about.  Hope all is well with your family.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 28, 2013, 04:32:40 PM
Alright well, Im finally home and have shaken the fatigue from the trip to Dover. Got a few positives to take from this game: defense (minus a few missed tackles) and special teams. Menlo IMHO is a run first type of team, I liked their QB Hawkins too. Wesley came into the game really beat up and still got a win. I know a couple o-linemen were playing hurt. Regardless of their record that was a very solid football team. Special teams has vastly improved since week 1, and for all the injuries the Wolverines accounted for, it was a good win.

Even though stats arent all that impressive, I like when teams come out with these kinds of wins. It shows heart and perhaps a few good breaks. I dont think we give this Wesley team enough credit for being as young as they are. With the schedule that has been played no other teams have been tried week in and week out to get victories, specifically teams in the top 25. Id say 6-2 is pretty damn good (I still think we should have beaten Rowan) for a young, beat up squad like the Wolverines have, and definitely playoff caliber. This is going to pay off at some point, whether thats in the playoffs this year or next year. Im excited to see what this team really brings to the table, and I can guarantee that it is definitely championship caliber.

Another huge test next week. D1-FCS Charlotte. And to the rest of the D3 world: Yeah, you thought your schedule was tough.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 28, 2013, 07:52:52 PM
skunks

I know all to well about the sacrifices our young people make for our country! I stand  by everything I said.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 28, 2013, 10:36:48 PM
Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but anybody know what's wrong with Howe?  Saw he wasn't dressed Saturday but we was walking around ok so I hope it's something that heals quickly.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 29, 2013, 12:20:00 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 28, 2013, 04:32:40 PM

Another huge test next week. D1-FCS Charlotte. And to the rest of the D3 world: Yeah, you thought your schedule was tough.

The bye-week couldn't have come at a better time!  Hopefully, Wesley gets a good rest and freshens up before the game.  It will be a challenge for sure.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 29, 2013, 01:20:28 AM
I believe Howe has been battling nagging injuries since Salisbury. Need him back for Charlotte though. Wolverines are spread thin at receiver especially after losing Bundy for the year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 29, 2013, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 29, 2013, 01:20:28 AM
I believe Howe has been battling nagging injuries since Salisbury. Need him back for Charlotte though. Wolverines are spread thin at receiver especially after losing Bundy for the year.

Great, I didn't hear about Bundy being out.  I wonder what other great news we have in store.  This is one scarred offensive squad! 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 29, 2013, 01:24:33 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 29, 2013, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 29, 2013, 01:20:28 AM
I believe Howe has been battling nagging injuries since Salisbury. Need him back for Charlotte though. Wolverines are spread thin at receiver especially after losing Bundy for the year.

Great, I didn't hear about Bundy being out.  I wonder what other great news we have in store.  This is one scarred offensive squad! 

-Ski

Bundy went out against VUL with a shoulder/arm injury (listening to Coach Drass' interview before the Rowan game, it was an AC Separation). Stinks, but at least its not a knee.

I think if Wesley can yank out a victory from UNC-Charlotte it puts them in good position for a playoff spot. IMO, it will make it hard for the committee to say no even with the loss to Rowan and the bludgeoning we took at UMHB. Its definitely within reach.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 29, 2013, 02:43:53 PM
Well, it is a 50/50 proposition at this point.  I started my "hope we get in the playoffs" beard just in case.  :(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 29, 2013, 03:04:33 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 29, 2013, 02:43:53 PM
Well, it is a 50/50 proposition at this point.  I started my "hope we get in the playoffs" beard just in case.  :(

-Ski

There is always hope, once upon a time...this kid made a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKh6XxYbbIc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKh6XxYbbIc) that no one thought was possible.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 29, 2013, 04:35:03 PM
Im always hopeful. Im sure at halftime of this game, no one thought it was possible. So I think of it as Wesley making the playoffs as a little more likely than this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rXOpHZoDq8

Sorry, had too. Was in the mood for a little bit of Wesley nostalgia.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 29, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 29, 2013, 04:35:03 PM
Im always hopeful. Im sure at halftime of this game, no one thought it was possible. So I think of it as Wesley making the playoffs as a little more likely than this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rXOpHZoDq8

Sorry, had too. Was in the mood for a little bit of Wesley nostalgia.

If Wesley does get in, they may have to take the cross country trip this time...which I am sure it is nothing to Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on October 29, 2013, 06:19:50 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 29, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 29, 2013, 04:35:03 PM
Im always hopeful. Im sure at halftime of this game, no one thought it was possible. So I think of it as Wesley making the playoffs as a little more likely than this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rXOpHZoDq8

Sorry, had too. Was in the mood for a little bit of Wesley nostalgia.

If Wesley does get in, they may have to take the cross country trip this time...which I am sure it is nothing to Wesley.

I obviously know very little about this year's version of the Wolverines, but the thought occurred to me that Wesley making the playoffs this year could be very bad news for a higher seed.  Sometimes, a talented team experiencing the fresh start of a second chance actually becomes more focused ands comes together.  I think of the wildcard teams that barely made it into the playoffs and then ended up going on a run to win the Super Bowl.  Anyway, if Wesley makes it, a relatively high seed who had a great year (for them) may be looking at the bracket and see themselves staring at Wesley in the 2nd round. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 29, 2013, 07:24:02 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 29, 2013, 01:24:33 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 29, 2013, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 29, 2013, 01:20:28 AM
I believe Howe has been battling nagging injuries since Salisbury. Need him back for Charlotte though. Wolverines are spread thin at receiver especially after losing Bundy for the year.

Great, I didn't hear about Bundy being out.  I wonder what other great news we have in store.  This is one scarred offensive squad! 

-Ski

Bundy went out against VUL with a shoulder/arm injury. Stinks, but at least its not a knee.

I think if Wesley can yank out a victory from UNC-Charlotte it puts them in good position for a playoff spot. IMO, it will make it hard for the committee to say no even with the loss to Rowan and the bludgeoning we took at UMHB. Its definitely within reach.

Unfortunately this game has no influence on the playoffs whatsoever since it is not a D3 game.  There are some who have said that the committee may look at these out of division games, but according to the criteria they supposedly mean nothing.  A win would look good and the team could use a good win.  Making the playoffs will be tough, but there are some suspect Pool B teams who may be looking at loses in the next couple of weeks that may make Wesley look good.  If the regional rankings come out and 4 or 5 of the teams that Wesley has played are ranked then they look even better.  There is hope, it is just not very bright right now, the question is is the sun rising or setting on the wolverines chances?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 29, 2013, 08:48:12 PM
While its true that it is not supposed to bear weight when the committee comes together. I cant help but think that Wesley had the home field vs. Linfield in 2011 in part because of their win over Charleston Southern. To me, a win against Charlotte, or at least a formidable challenge will put it into the committee's mind that Wesley is a team talented enough to make the playoffs over a 9-1 Millsaps or a 9-1 TLU. Wesley has impressive victories over at least 2 pool A teams, perhaps more depending on how the rest of the season shakes out. Widener, and Rowan are very much alive. Best case scenario is that Wesley maintains 1 SOS and goes 4-2 against pool A teams and a D1 school. That makes the argument even for all schools trying to nail down a pool B bid. Im optimistic.

And hopefully bleed is right maybe this is a team that goes out and makes a run after sneaking into the playoffs. Not sure if this is a Stagg or even semifinal team, but they can make some kind of run for sure, provided that they heal up this week and stay healthy the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 29, 2013, 11:18:03 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 29, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 29, 2013, 04:35:03 PM
Im always hopeful. Im sure at halftime of this game, no one thought it was possible. So I think of it as Wesley making the playoffs as a little more likely than this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rXOpHZoDq8

Sorry, had too. Was in the mood for a little bit of Wesley nostalgia.

If Wesley does get in, they may have to take the cross country trip this time...which I am sure it is nothing to Wesley.

Hey, maybe THAT'S the problem - not enough long road trips this year has made us all out of sorts :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Womb_to_Tomb_Wildcat on October 29, 2013, 11:43:36 PM
Can't wait to make that trip up to Wesley next year for rematch. That game we had against them last season in Pineville was awesome between two great teams, and playing against Wesley really taught us what it takes to be a championship team, which has helped us a lot since then. They are a 1st class program top-to-bottom.

LC has never played anywhere away from home that far away. Sul Ross (12-13 hours) is the farthest trip, by far, we ever make. Delaware will be a completely different animal.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 30, 2013, 11:47:41 AM
Womb_to_Tomb - We were very impressed with LC when we made the trip down there last year.  You had some really tough ball players, and the general vibe of the place was certainly that of a program looking to grow and gain respect in a tough conference.  Seem to remember that your fans were pretty cool and made us feel welcome in the stands.  If anyone cared for my opinion I'd vote for Wesley to play down there every year so we could add on a few days for a visit to New Orleans!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 31, 2013, 07:01:06 PM
I decided to take a look at the Charlotte roster and saw that they have some big boys on both lines.  Hopefully Wesley can get some people healthy during this off week and work on some of the things that have been holding them back this year.  The lines are going to have to step up to the plate and protect Callahan on O and get pressure on the QB for Charlotte.  I noticed that Charlotte played and crushed Chowan, a team that Wesley used to play, holding them to - 2 yards rushing.  This will be a tough game at any point of the season, but may be tougher this late in the season.

I saw that Bundy was injured, is he out for the season if so that is a big loss.  He gave them the size to forcing teams to worry about him and giving the smaller receivers more room.

There are some big games this week to watch if Wesley is going to make the playoffs.  La Coll needs to beat Tex Luth.  1 loss may be enough with their horrible SOS to drop them behind Wesley.  Also, hope Millsaps keeps winning giving Rhodes a 2nd loss.  Chicago and Wash U losing would also help immensely.  Rowan has to beat Cortland St and hopefully win the NJAC, that makes the loss look less bad.  They are in the discusion, just wish they had more D3 games.  6 - 2 would be much better in the discussion with who they have played.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 03, 2013, 07:33:29 AM
Everybody won except Salisbury......  Charlotte lost to Coastal Carolina Saturday, 50-25.  They are currently 5-5.  They are going to be tough to beat versus Charleston Southern.

-edit-  Widener lost as well....  :(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 06, 2013, 08:00:59 PM
Wesley needs help from Salisbury and Huntingdon the rest of the way out. I think that will push Wesley in. It seems that the committee is putting some weight on Wesley's SOS getting ranked above undefeated Millsaps. If Millsaps OR Texas Lutheran takes 1 loss the rest of the way out, I see Wesley's path a lot easier because their SOS is so high compared to Millsaps and even TLU. If Millsaps and TLU go undefeated, I would think Wesley goes in ahead of Framingham St. for that third spot. I guess that is the one advantage of being an independent top 25 team: you have to schedule those tough teams cause no one else wants to play you.

Charlotte will be a test this weekend. Even though it doesnt technically count, it is an important game to win. A win over an FCS team gives Wesley a little more leverage to the committee in considering how good Wesley is compared to teams like Framingham, Millsaps and TLU (and it will put an exclamation point on a down season).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 08, 2013, 04:26:41 PM
awful quiet around here when there is no game.  hope that wesley got healthy this week and they can compete in the game.  they need to do some things well, win or lose.  o line has to step it up and callahan has to avoid the sloppy int's.  defense just has to keep doing what they have been doing in most games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 08, 2013, 09:49:03 PM
Wesley is going to need a special effort from both sides of the ball tomorrow to pull out a win.   I am not sure how well the offensive line is going to match up with a DI FCS line of this caliber.  Only time will tell.  Go get them Wolverines!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 09, 2013, 09:03:05 AM
taking the trip to salisbury today to see their game with ithaca.  should be a good one. good luck to wesley today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 09, 2013, 10:29:31 AM
Gameday! Time to see where these Wolverines are really at! Now Im trying to decide if I should pay for the video feed and I dont think there is a pay-per-view option  :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 09, 2013, 01:41:14 PM
Good to see us holding our own so far. Had consistent success with the running game, so O-line must be doing something right. UNCC hasn't brought much pressure on the QB - will be interesting to see if they change that in the second half. Not sure why we had the onside kick late in the half (guessing it wasn't by accident???) - really took momentum the other way.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 09, 2013, 03:34:01 PM
Final yet?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 09, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
35-28 FINAL! What a win for Wesley. This team grew up today, and I was really impressed with the fight and the CONSISTENT EXECUTION when it was needed. There was a great effort all around. IMO, this win gets them in. Hands down. This was the signature win they needed. Completely different team from three short weeks ago.

I think you can look at pool B teams qualitatively, and right now, today, Wesley proved that they have earned one of those spots. They have fought off adversity in all forms this season, as denoted by their number 1 SOS. That deserves reward.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on November 09, 2013, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 09, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
35-28 FINAL! What a win for Wesley. This team grew up today, and I was really impressed with the fight and the CONSISTENT EXECUTION when it was needed. There was a great effort all around. IMO, this win gets them in. Hands down. Completely different team from three short weeks ago.

That win should not count at all. Whether it does or not is a different story, but per the criteria this week never happened for Wesley. Nice win though!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 09, 2013, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 09, 2013, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 09, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
35-28 FINAL! What a win for Wesley. This team grew up today, and I was really impressed with the fight and the CONSISTENT EXECUTION when it was needed. There was a great effort all around. IMO, this win gets them in. Hands down. Completely different team from three short weeks ago.

That win should not count at all. Whether it does or not is a different story, but per the criteria this week never happened for Wesley. Nice win though!

I think that it wouldnt be fair for the committee to exclude a win of this magnitude. Charlotte will be in Conference USA in a few seasons, and Wesley walked in there and came out with a win. For the committee to say this week never happened for Wesley would be unfair. I see it as reward for scheduling a team so high on the food chain compared to D3 schools AND to win. I think it will force the committee Wesley not as the team that got beat by Rowan, but as a team that took down an FCS school and is still growing.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on November 09, 2013, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 09, 2013, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 09, 2013, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 09, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
35-28 FINAL! What a win for Wesley. This team grew up today, and I was really impressed with the fight and the CONSISTENT EXECUTION when it was needed. There was a great effort all around. IMO, this win gets them in. Hands down. Completely different team from three short weeks ago.

That win should not count at all. Whether it does or not is a different story, but per the criteria this week never happened for Wesley. Nice win though!

I think that it wouldnt be fair for the committee to exclude a win of this magnitude. Charlotte will be in Conference USA in a few seasons, and Wesley walked in there and came out with a win. For the committee to say this week never happened for Wesley would be unfair. I see it as reward for scheduling a team so high on the food chain compared to D3 schools AND to win. I think it will force the committee Wesley not as the team that got beat by Rowan, but as a team that took down an FCS school and is still growing.

Fair? That's got nothing to do with it. The rules are the rules and out of Division games are so far down the list it might as well not exist. But we'll see what the committee does. Millsaps is currently losing to Centre pretty good in the start of the 4th, so that will help Wesley immensely. Add to it that TLU is losing to HSU and you're getting the perfect weekend, whether the game counts or not.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 09, 2013, 04:41:36 PM
YES!!!!!!!  Well done Wolverines, well done. 

I snuck out of my research at the archives every 10 minutes or so to keep up with the game.  I am SO impressed with the offensive line!  What a character win for Wesley!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 09, 2013, 05:40:44 PM
You can watch the highlights of the game here:

http://www.charlotte49ers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=23200&ATCLID=209303772

It looks like Wesley earned their plane tickets for next year!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 09, 2013, 05:48:14 PM
got to listen to the 4th quarter on my way home from salisbury and it sounded like the wolverines played very well today.  sean and jason spoke very highly of the overall effort today.  they were able to run the ball with jackson almost over 100, that bodes well if they get in the playoffs.  nice win taking on a new program that will be 1AA.  wesley got some help today with tex luth losing.  that along with the weak sos for tex luth may drop them below both millsaps and wesley and out of the pool b.

waterboy, i understand your point, but by the criteria the game means nothing, at least on paper.  it could make a difference once the discussion starts if wesley and ??? are being discussed and seem to be even, may tip the scale their way.  we shall see next sunday.  hoping they get in and get a chance to improve on how they have played at points this season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 09, 2013, 10:19:16 PM
Overall a very strong showing today and hopefully another confidence builder. Only concern today was the number of penalties, some real and others imagined. Kids should be proud of themselves for playing on a bigger stage and handling it well (would compare the general atmosphere kind of to a UD game). Heck, UNCC even has those cool machines to set off little fireworks when their team comes out - definitely not something we see every week :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 10, 2013, 08:09:29 AM
Wesleydad - What did you think of the Salisbury game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 10, 2013, 09:45:26 AM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 10, 2013, 08:09:29 AM
Wesleydad - What did you think of the Salisbury game?

DE wesley, this is what i posted on the E8 board

just got back from the gulls/bombers game.  it was a nice game to watch.  i understand the bombers fans excitement with the win and the trip to the playoffs, but they did get a bit of luck with the missed field goal and then the missed extra point.  the gulls were able to control the ball and move it, albeit 3 yds at a time.  the game changed with the block punt that led to the 10 - 10 tie.  both teams looked rather ordinary on offense, but some of the credit has to go to the defenses, both teams did a nice job today.  the gulls were undisciplined with the personal foul penalties and do not look like the team that I am used to seeing when they play wesley.  there was little emotion on the field or sideline today.  congrats to the bombers on the win.

also, fans travel well.  very loud and enthusiastic following.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 10, 2013, 10:46:32 AM
wesleydad, exactly my point. Right now I think that all the teams by criteria are very close when it comes to getting in. This win may give Wesley an edge. Also, the highlights from UNC-Charlotte Athletics is up on YouTube. Make sure your sound is turned down!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THRAiOnKIrY
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 10, 2013, 12:25:39 PM
thanks waterboy for the link.  from what i saw it looked like a different o line, got a push on the plays shown.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 10, 2013, 12:59:19 PM
I think for the better part of the game the o line played extremely well. A lot of 7+ yard gains from the tailbacks and only gave up 1 sack for 3 yards. Wesley has always kinda had a problem with penalties that end up handling themselves in the playoffs for the most part. It did sound like Charlotte may have been offsides listening to the WDEL broadcast. Callahan played well today 25-39 on completions. I think thats because of the improved play of the o-line. He had time to throw, thats a difference maker.

It was also nice to see Wesley open up the playbook a little bit with the WR pass, onside kick, etc. Very exciting to listen to.

The Wesley kicking team has also gotten better. I dont think they have missed a kick since UMHB.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 10, 2013, 07:16:27 PM
Even though the win won't be a big help in the playoff picture, it did allow Wesley to bump up five spots in the D3F Top 25!  Not too shabby.  :)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 10, 2013, 07:35:03 PM
I was pleased to see Wesley jump to 15 in the Top 25. Definitely gained some hard-earned "reputation points" back today.

Now for a common knowledge question: When are the next regional rankings getting released? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 10, 2013, 07:37:37 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 10, 2013, 07:35:03 PM
I was pleased to see Wesley jump to 15 in the Top 25. Definitely gained some hard-earned "reputation points" back today.

Now for a common knowledge question: When are the next regional rankings getting released?

Wednesday afternoon.

But since they've dropped 'once ranked, always ranked', ONLY the secret final rankings matter.  Nice transparency, NCAA! :o >:(
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Scots13 on November 10, 2013, 07:57:09 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 10, 2013, 07:35:03 PM
I was pleased to see Wesley jump to 15 in the Top 25. Definitely gained some hard-earned "reputation points" back today.

Now for a common knowledge question: When are the next regional rankings getting released?

Yes. They. Did.

Even though UNC Charlotte is a first year program, it's always nice seeing a D3 beat an FCS team.
What I was most impressed with was the fact the were down early in the 4th and found a way to win in front of over 14k fans. Not an easy thing for most small college football programs to do.

Even though this technically doesn't "help" them, I believe they turned some heads...it's not like UNC-C was a winless FCS team.  Even makes me wonder what UMHB could do to some FCS teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 11, 2013, 11:38:30 AM
I put Wesley's victory over Charlotte on a higher level than Charleston Southern.  The 2011 Charleston Southern team went winless for that entire year 0-11.  Charlotte already won 4 games this season.  No comparison.  I am really thrilled with what Wesley pulled off this last weekend!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 11, 2013, 08:46:15 PM
well this week's game does not interest me much so I have decided to head out to Alliance OH to see the Mount/John Carroll game.  After listening to the podcast and reading some of the posts from those much better at guessing than I am, it looks like barring some really weird happenings Wesley looks to be headed to the playoffs again.  It will not matter where they get sent I will be there for it.  If they get a home game, even better.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 11, 2013, 11:35:42 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 11, 2013, 08:46:15 PM
well this week's game does not interest me much so I have decided to head out to Alliance OH to see the Mount/John Carroll game.  After listening to the podcast and reading some of the posts from those much better at guessing than I am, it looks like barring some really weird happenings Wesley looks to be headed to the playoffs again.  It will not matter where they get sent I will be there for it.  If they get a home game, even better.

A fine choice indeed!  Considering the Heidelberg results, that is going to be an absolutely smashing good game!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 11, 2013, 11:55:03 PM
Thanks Mr. Ypsi! +K

Looking back at the game from Saturday. Wesley had a lot of 7+ yard rushes (from multiple guys) and the tightend Kyle George seemed to be the x-factor in the receiving game. I liked that sweep play with Howe. I think he needs the ball as much as Koudossou. Jason Bowen said on the broadcast the other day that hes the smallest guy on the field but hes got the biggest heart. I think that is very accurate.

I think we have seen glimmers of what this offense is capable of all year. This game was the most "sustained appearance" of it. When this team grows up, it will be fun to watch.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 14, 2013, 10:58:15 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 11, 2013, 11:55:03 PM
Thanks Mr. Ypsi! +K

Looking back at the game from Saturday. Wesley had a lot of 7+ yard rushes (from multiple guys) and the tightend Kyle George seemed to be the x-factor in the receiving game. I liked that sweep play with Howe. I think he needs the ball as much as Koudossou. Jason Bowen said on the broadcast the other day that hes the smallest guy on the field but hes got the biggest heart. I think that is very accurate.

I think we have seen glimmers of what this offense is capable of all year. This game was the most "sustained appearance" of it. When this team grows up, it will be fun to watch.

If Wesley makes the playoffs, we may see the offense peaking for the year right at the right time!  Keeping my fingers crossed and the beard growing.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 15, 2013, 10:54:06 PM
hope the game goes as expected.  I am heading out to allicance to see Mount/John Carroll.  Hoping that by Sunday evening we have a game for next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 16, 2013, 11:37:16 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 15, 2013, 10:54:06 PM
hope the game goes as expected.  I am heading out to allicance to see Mount/John Carroll.  Hoping that by Sunday evening we have a game for next week.

I hope you had a safe trip!  I was hoping to be able to skip out of class up to the last minute to catch the Wesley game, but I couldn't.  This is the last home game of the season, and I have to miss it.  I am truly gutted.  Oh well.  I expect Wesley to do what it should today and I will be rubbing my beard tomorrow in hopes for a playoff bid......  Now to head out to class once again.    :'(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 16, 2013, 04:25:39 PM
Wesley took care of business today.  I hope the injuries don't complicate things for the possible game next week.   Rhodes is leading Millsaps, so if they win, that will further muddy the waters in Pool B. Uggh!  The wait until 6PM tomorrow is going to be one hell of a long one!  Keeping my fingers crossed.    ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 16, 2013, 08:24:51 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 16, 2013, 11:37:16 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 15, 2013, 10:54:06 PM
hope the game goes as expected.  I am heading out to allicance to see Mount/John Carroll.  Hoping that by Sunday evening we have a game for next week.

I hope you had a safe trip!  I was hoping to be able to skip out of class up to the last minute to catch the Wesley game, but I couldn't.  This is the last home game of the season, and I have to miss it.  I am truly gutted.  Oh well.  I expect Wesley to do what it should today and I will be rubbing my beard tomorrow in hopes for a playoff bid......  Now to head out to class once again.    :'(

-Ski

safe trip out and a great game, JCU is for real.  Best QB/receiver combo I have seen in D3 since I started watching it.  Will be tough to handle for anyone.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 16, 2013, 10:13:53 PM
Here's hoping that the predictions hold true!  I would love to be able to catch a home Wesley playoff game!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 17, 2013, 06:13:42 PM
Johns Hopkins has got to be thinking, this is what we get for winning our league!!!  I like the game for Wesley.  The winner of this game has, in my opinion, a much easier second game.  Then a trip to Mount. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 17, 2013, 06:15:06 PM
Yep....I might have to call in sick on Saturday.   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 17, 2013, 06:30:34 PM
Wow crazy first round match-up...AND getting into Mounts bracket. Trying to get out there Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2013, 10:36:32 AM
Yay!  I got a hall pass for Saturday!  So, me and the Missus will be there  for the game! 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2013, 02:23:19 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 20, 2013, 10:36:32 AM
Yay!  I got a hall pass for Saturday!  So, me and the Missus will be there  for the game! 

-Ski

Ski, good to hear.  Find me, I will be there somewhere.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2013, 04:57:04 PM
Will do!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 20, 2013, 05:17:59 PM
Good luck Wesley! Rep the South!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2013, 07:05:38 PM
looking at JHU's games.  They only played one game that was competitive, beating Ursinus with 2 4th quarter TD's.  They gave up some big pass plays.  I don't think that Ursinus is as good as Wesley in any facet of the game.  Wesley will need a strong effort by both lines.  The O line needs to keep improving, the game against Charlotte will likely have been tougher than Hopkins, surely size wise.  If Callahan gets time they should be able to move the ball through the air.  If they can run the ball, the more the better.  JHU likes to run the ball and control the ball, 35 mins against Ursinus.  The D line will have to shut that down and make them throw.  I see no reason why Wesley can't win this game and I expect them to do so.  It will be my first trip to JHU so I get to add another team to my list of teams seen and with a win I will add another one next week.  After that another trip to Alliance is ok with me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 22, 2013, 05:57:23 PM
No injuries, Wesley, do your thing.
It's all Division III opponents from here on out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2013, 08:15:05 AM
Well, getting ready to head out shortly.  Please let me get to the game without running into a traffic jam or some 5k run in Baltimore!!   :-\

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 23, 2013, 10:13:42 AM
Let's go Wesley! Hoping for a strong performance and the chance to play again next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 23, 2013, 02:44:57 PM
Congratulations Wesley!  Incredible last minute drive.  Both teams looked great. It was a well-played game.
JHU scored with 0:43 left and then Wesley went 82 yards in 30 sec.

Wesley 29  JHU 24.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 23, 2013, 03:22:42 PM
Wow, just...wow. JHU has a really good team. Glad we were able to overcome so many mental errors to pull thru in the end. Can't wait till next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 23, 2013, 03:28:42 PM
Man wish i was there, no one wanted to go. Way to step up on that final drive. D picked up the offense all day and, the O finally came through HUGE in that last drive. Need to calm down before I can think about this one more.

On to Ithaca!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 23, 2013, 04:47:10 PM
What a great game to be at.  Wow, Wow, Wow, is all I can say.  go 82 yards in 30 sec when they know you are throwing the ball and into a 25 - 30 mph wind is incredible.  Callahan was under pressure the entire second half, the O line struggled against the blitz.  The last drive, they stepped up and gave him time and he delivered some pinpoint passes and strong into the wind.  Just a great win.  On to Ithaca.  Way to go Wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 23, 2013, 05:52:32 PM
The Johns Hopkins' crowd went wild when they went ahead 24-23 and I could almost feel that sound bouncing off my face.  They were loud!   Another 36 seconds of game time and they were absolutely silent.  I don't know how Wesley does it.  If it isn't the Linfield game, or Salisbury, they do it yet again today.  Against the odds, they just do it.

Now Wesley had a lot of opportunities that the defense provided to put the game away but the offense simply failed to deliver in the second half up to the last drive.  An interception there, a fumble here and Wesley couldn't put the game away.  They simply responded with a three and out.  I mentioned to my wife that when Wesley failed to convert the point after when they scored to lead 23-14, it would come back to bite us.  It almost did.  However, the wind of fate and character blew in Wesley's favor once again.

Johns Hopkins played a spirited game.  Their blitz really put the ca bosh on Wesley's pass game in the second half.  They tipped balls, sacked Callahan and created mayhem behind the line.  But the offense kicked in and took advantage of the prevent defense that does so well in losing games.  Hats off to Callahan for having the arm to put the ball where it needed to be when he had the time to do it.  The guy is the real thing.  Incredible.

Good things were very few penalties and no turnovers.  VERY GOOD THINGS indeed!

Now to get onto next week against Ithaca and to get refocused once again.  Well done Wolverines and another week for the beard!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on November 24, 2013, 07:50:41 AM
Congrats to the Wolverines.  Have played against both of those programs while in college and I can imagine that was quite a game; I'm not sure either team is a title contender but that sort of first-round game is one of the best things about the playoffs.  Two go-ahead TD in the final minute of any game is spectacular.  Koudoussou is unbelievable.  If you guys have video or find links to any highlights from the game, I'd love to see them!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2013, 08:53:18 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 24, 2013, 07:50:41 AM
Congrats to the Wolverines.  Have played against both of those programs while in college and I can imagine that was quite a game; I'm not sure either team is a title contender but that sort of first-round game is one of the best things about the playoffs.  Two go-ahead TD in the final minute of any game is spectacular.  Koudoussou is unbelievable.  If you guys have video or find links to any highlights from the game, I'd love to see them!

You ask and you shall receive.  The video was put together by JHU, so it is missing most of the good Wesley plays that had them ahead 23-14 at one point.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn9xb_LkZXQ

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 24, 2013, 01:57:58 PM
Check out the brackets, game is in Dover this weekend.  Much shorter drive.  Turf vs. grass will make a difference.  Big break for Wesley, although I thought they were still going to win the game anyway.  Wonder what the explanation is?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on November 24, 2013, 02:09:04 PM
Thank you for the entertaining game for this independent to watch yesterday.  I was impressed with John Carroll and what that professional under a minute drive looked like.
Happy for you.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 24, 2013, 02:12:04 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 24, 2013, 02:09:04 PM
Thank you for the entertaining game for this independent to watch yesterday.  I was impressed with John Carroll and what that professional under a minute drive looked like.
Happy for you.

DOC, it was a great game to be at.  The last drive was even more impressive in that it was into a 25 - 30 mph wind.  Glad you enjoyed it.  Looks like Wesley gets a home game this weekend.?!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2013, 02:13:32 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 24, 2013, 01:57:58 PM
Check out the brackets, game is in Dover this weekend.  Much shorter drive.  Turf vs. grass will make a difference.  Big break for Wesley, although I thought they were still going to win the game anyway.  Wonder what the explanation is?

A very interesting development!  Wow!  I hope I can weasel out of class that afternoon..... :-\

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 24, 2013, 03:03:12 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 24, 2013, 02:13:32 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 24, 2013, 01:57:58 PM
Check out the brackets, game is in Dover this weekend.  Much shorter drive.  Turf vs. grass will make a difference.  Big break for Wesley, although I thought they were still going to win the game anyway.  Wonder what the explanation is?

A very interesting development!  Wow!  I hope I can weasel out of class that afternoon..... :-\

-Ski

You have class Thanksgiving weekend? Who's showing up?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on November 24, 2013, 03:06:52 PM
Wesleydad!  That had to be one fun game to attend my friend.

I think Wesley can get the job done this coming week, and I am hoping Mount brings their "A" game against WITT.

If that happens, it's just like old times my friend.  You know where we will be, and of course you are more than welcome.     
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 24, 2013, 03:32:24 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on November 24, 2013, 03:06:52 PM
Wesleydad!  That had to be one fun game to attend my friend.

I think Wesley can get the job done this coming week, and I am hoping Mount brings their "A" game against WITT.

If that happens, it's just like old times my friend.  You know where we will be, and of course you are more than welcome.   

yes, lots of fun to watch live.  I thought Wesley would win at Ithaca so i certainly believe they will win at home this weekend.  Ithaca struggles scoring, so if Wesley does not turn the ball over I see Ithaca having trouble getting points.  they only ran for 6 yds against Framingham and I doubt that Framingham's d is better than Wesley's is. 

Mount looks to be vulnerable as again they give up points to a team that you would think they would have little trouble with.  W&J got crushed by Fisher early in the year.

If we both win, you know I will be at panchos for the pre game breakfast and conversation.  This is the least overall talented team that Wesley has had in some time, but they are getting better and the receivers will give anyone trouble if the O line can give the QB some time.  Will be an interesting game if Wesley plays Mount.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 24, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
Maybe it has something to do with Wesley beating the #2 seed on the road, which would trump Ithaca's #3 seed. Just a suggestion

wesleydad, what was your take on Ithaca from the Salisbury game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2013, 03:52:38 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on November 24, 2013, 03:03:12 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 24, 2013, 02:13:32 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 24, 2013, 01:57:58 PM
Check out the brackets, game is in Dover this weekend.  Much shorter drive.  Turf vs. grass will make a difference.  Big break for Wesley, although I thought they were still going to win the game anyway.  Wonder what the explanation is?

A very interesting development!  Wow!  I hope I can weasel out of class that afternoon..... :-\

-Ski

You have class Thanksgiving weekend? Who's showing up?

I'm not sure....these are Masters classes at DSU, so my absence would be noted.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2013, 04:02:26 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 24, 2013, 03:52:38 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on November 24, 2013, 03:03:12 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 24, 2013, 02:13:32 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 24, 2013, 01:57:58 PM
Check out the brackets, game is in Dover this weekend.  Much shorter drive.  Turf vs. grass will make a difference.  Big break for Wesley, although I thought they were still going to win the game anyway.  Wonder what the explanation is?

A very interesting development!  Wow!  I hope I can weasel out of class that afternoon..... :-\

-Ski

You have class Thanksgiving weekend? Who's showing up?

I'm not sure....these are Masters classes at DSU, so my absence would be noted.

-Ski

Interesting.....I just was E-Mailed by my teacher.  I WILL be at the game on Saturday!!! Booyeah!  Wow, two games in a row.  I am a lucky man.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 24, 2013, 04:26:29 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 24, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
Maybe it has something to do with Wesley beating the #2 seed on the road, which would trump Ithaca's #3 seed. Just a suggestion

wesleydad, what was your take on Ithaca from the Salisbury game?

waterboy, they do not do much on offense.  they went 3 and out the first 4 or 5 times they had the ball against the gulls.  they were down 10 - 0 when they blocked a punt and it changed the whole game around.  They are pretty good on defense but will have trouble with Wesley's passing game.  They did not have to worry about that against Salisbury.  their special teams are pretty good.  In the end, Salisbury misses a field goal at the end of the game that wins it and then misses the extra point in OT.  If Wesley does not turn the ball over I think Ithaca has trouble scoring very much.  I think Wesley should win the game and comfortably without any turnovers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 24, 2013, 11:11:22 PM
Were you at the Rowan game WesleyDad? Any thoughts on comparisons with the Cru?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 25, 2013, 09:28:50 AM
Quote from: umhb2001 on November 24, 2013, 11:11:22 PM
Were you at the Rowan game WesleyDad? Any thoughts on comparisons with the Cru?

The Rowan defense is solid. The DE Alvarez is really tough. They tailback Marcelin is pretty good too. He may break loose a couple of times. Their starting QB (Hammersla) got hurt in the Wesley game. The backup (McCarty), despite throwing two of the best passes of his career against Wesley,hasn't seemed do be able to maintain that level of consistentcy and production.

So as the stats suggest, they are a very run-based offense now. It's really tough to best the Cru without balance. Historically, there are plays to be made against UMHB in the passing game. The question is do you have the time or accuracy to make them. Unless McCarty morphes into the game the same player he was for the fourth quarter of the Wesley game, it will be tough.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kelly Boggs on November 25, 2013, 10:41:09 AM
Thanks for the insight, d3jason.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 25, 2013, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on November 24, 2013, 11:11:22 PM
Were you at the Rowan game WesleyDad? Any thoughts on comparisons with the Cru?

No, I didnt make that game.  Made my annual trek to Bridgewater since I didnt see anyway that wesley could lose, and low and behold the did.  Jason hit it on the head from what I can see with Rowan.  Pretty good defense and extremely limited offense.  I dont see the Cru having any issues this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 25, 2013, 02:29:17 PM
Lots of credit to the Wesley offense for running a nearly perfect two minute drill, uh... make that ONE minute drill.... on the last drive with no time outs left.  They were cool and collected, and showed great maturity under pressure for a relatively young group.

The last couple games we've been doing more wholesale substitutions on 3rd down defense.  JHU caught us on our heels a few times, and we gave up a couple really long 3rd down plays. Will be interesting to see if Ithaca tries to take advantage of that strategy.  Looking forward to a strong Weley performance, and am pleasantly surprised to be seeing it in Dover.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 25, 2013, 09:04:06 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 24, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
Maybe it has something to do with Wesley beating the #2 seed on the road, which would trump Ithaca's #3 seed. Just a suggestion

wesleydad, what was your take on Ithaca from the Salisbury game?
I think the bracket seeds look something like this:
1 Mount
2 Hopkins
3/4 either Wittenberg or Framingham St
5 Wesley
6 Ithaca
7 Leb Val
8 W & J

Framingham to Ithaca bc they couldn't host.
Wesley and Witt too far without a flight.
So Wesley is the higher seed.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 25, 2013, 10:43:04 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on November 25, 2013, 09:28:50 AM
Quote from: umhb2001 on November 24, 2013, 11:11:22 PM
Were you at the Rowan game WesleyDad? Any thoughts on comparisons with the Cru?

The Rowan defense is solid. The DE Alvarez is really tough. They tailback Marcelin is pretty good too. He may break loss a couple of times. There starting QB (Hammersla) got hurt in the Wesley game. The backup (McCarty), despite throwing two of the best passes of his career against Wesley,hasn't seemed do be able to maintain that level of consistentcy and production.

So as the stats suggest, they are a very run-based offense now. It really tough to best the Cru without balance. Historically, there are plays to be made against UMHB in the passing game. The question is do you have the time or accuracy to make them. Unless McCarty morphes into the game the same player he was for the fourth quarter of the Wesley game, it will be tough.

Thanks Jason!

My gut feeling tells me our pass D is better than in years past. Typically our Achilles heel was third down D. That has been shored up I believe. Overall, we will force you to pass as the run D has been our strong suit. We pretty much go 4 strong on the line and blitz seldomlely. This strengthens our pass D. We will definitely need to stop Marcelin better than we stopped Montague at LC, especially in the passing game. We learned a lot that game and have made strides. I feel confident but know it will be a challenge.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 26, 2013, 12:32:51 PM
I agree at least from what I've seen (Wesley, Redlands early in the year) that the Cru secondary has been playing at a high level. And getting pressure with just four and sometimes three when in their nickel package makes them tougher.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 28, 2013, 08:36:22 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to the Wesley fans.  Enjoy the day and be thankful that we have a home game this weekend.  Much shorter drive than I expected last week.  See you at the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 28, 2013, 03:59:02 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 28, 2013, 08:36:22 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to the Wesley fans.  Enjoy the day and be thankful that we have a home game this weekend.  Much shorter drive than I expected last week.  See you at the game.

And with you!  Looking forward to pulling out the hand warmers for the Missus and having a hell of a good time under the sun.  We'll see you Saturday.  Enjoy your turkey everyone!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 28, 2013, 08:13:05 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 28, 2013, 08:36:22 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to the Wesley fans.  Enjoy the day and be thankful that we have a home game this weekend.  Much shorter drive than I expected last week.  See you at the game.

You too :)  Looking forward to a great Wesley game.  If one game just isn't quite enough for anyone, don't forget that the Delaware high school DI and DII championship games are at UD on Saturday.  Unfortunately the DII game starts at 2 pm, but the Middletown/Sallies game isn't until 6.   Perhaps there will be a few future Wesley stars on the field.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 30, 2013, 08:39:02 AM
GAME DAY!!!!!  Getting ready to head to Dover for today's game with Ithaca.  The weather will not have any effect on the game.  It is usually breezy in Dover so that may play into the kicking game depending on how the wind blows.  On paper it looks like Wesley should win this game, but they don't use paper to tell.  O line has to have a good game and they can not have any turnovers.  Special teams, especially the punt unit, has to protect.  Ithaca turned the game around against Salisbury with a blocked punt.  The defense has to take away the underneath pass that they gave up plenty of against Hopkins last week.  Ithaca does not do anything fancy, they just keep doing it looking for mistakes and then take advantage of them.  I think 28 - 10 Wesley, if they play clean.  A close one if they don't.  See you at the game.

Pat and Keith are in the house today announcing the game.  Hopefully Wesley steps up and shows the improvement we have seen in the last couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 30, 2013, 03:03:18 PM
Well, few penalties and no turnovers.  That is good.  However, the offense still has to iron out its game.  The defense was up to the task allowing only a single offensive TD for Ithaca.  Onto Alliance once again.  It will be a tough game to get past, that is for sure.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 30, 2013, 04:13:58 PM
Good win by Wesley.  Defense did the job shutting down the Bombers offense except for a couple of drives.  Ithaca abandoned the run at halftime and threw the ball the entire second half.

Next week in Alliance you will see one of the best QB's in D3 football in Burke.  He is elusive and makes plays.  The defense is going to have to shore up the crossing patterns, giving up too many yards on them.  The offense will have to be able to run the ball and if they give Callahan some time he should be able to find receivers.  It will be a tough game, one that I dont think this Wesley team can win.  That being said, at the beginning of the year not many of us thought they would make it to the Quarterfinals.  This team and program have plenty to be proud of, making it to a least the 1/4 finals for 9 consecutive years, only Mount can also say that.  I will be making the trip to Alliance again hoping for a good game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 30, 2013, 08:08:34 PM
It was also great to see Pat Coleman and Kieth McMillan at the game.  Pat, I hope you had a good "trip".  Don't think I didn't notice..... ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 01, 2013, 12:18:21 AM
Not much more to add as Ski and Wesley Dad covered all the bases.  Very glad to see the offense running more smoothly the last couple games, looking much more confident and coming into their own.  Special teams has a few bugs to work out, as we gave up way too many yards on kick returns and it would be nice to count on making the extra points.  Defense continues to play tough as expected.  Was very happy to see fewer of the wholesale 3rd down substitutions this week.  Being realistic, I see very little chance of us beating the beast that is Mt Union but that's why the game is played - just never know who might come out on top any given Saturday and if anyone is due to break one against "one of the big boys" it's us.   This team has grown tremendously during the year, and given the offensive growth I think we have great things to look forward to next year.   Oh, and was glad to see Uncle Frank back in action - was afraid we'd lost him there for awhile ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 01, 2013, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 30, 2013, 08:08:34 PM
It was also great to see Pat Coleman and Kieth McMillan at the game.  Pat, I hope you had a good "trip".  Don't think I didn't notice..... ;)

-Ski

Seriously. Someone is going to get hurt on that step! But I caught myself, which is no mean feat at my size.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 01, 2013, 02:33:14 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 01, 2013, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 30, 2013, 08:08:34 PM
It was also great to see Pat Coleman and Kieth McMillan at the game.  Pat, I hope you had a good "trip".  Don't think I didn't notice..... ;)

-Ski

Seriously. Someone is going to get hurt on that step! But I caught myself, which is no mean feat at my size.

It could of been a lot worse that is for sure!  I am happy the weather was pretty pleasant.  At least we weren't battling 30 MPH winds.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 01, 2013, 02:55:07 PM

Pat

I think the stands need a workover!!! That step must have come loose recently!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 01, 2013, 06:42:52 PM
That whole stadium is due to be redone IMO. Compared to other top D3 football teams in the country, Wesley's is definitely behind as far as size goes.

Anyone coming to Alliance this weekend? Have no clue how this game will turn out other than Wesley will need something special to win. Burke is the real deal, reminds me of McSweeny. It will be interesting to see how Wesley can contain him. On offense, we have been doing just enough to win and not making mistakes, but we are going to need a healthy dose of Special K to keep this one close compared to yesterday against Ithaca.

I really liked Jamar Baynard in the backfield the other day as well. Hes not super explosive but he is a very hard runner. It will be interesting to see his progression throughout his 4 years at Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2013, 12:53:49 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 01, 2013, 06:42:52 PM
That whole stadium is due to be redone IMO. Compared to other top D3 football teams in the country, Wesley's is definitely behind as far as size goes.

Anyone coming to Alliance this weekend? Have no clue how this game will turn out other than Wesley will need something special to win. Burke is the real deal, reminds me of McSweeny. It will be interesting to see how Wesley can contain him. On offense, we have been doing just enough to win and not making mistakes, but we are going to need a healthy dose of Special K to keep this one close compared to yesterday against Ithaca.

I really liked Jamar Baynard in the backfield the other day as well. Hes not super explosive but he is a very hard runner. It will be interesting to see his progression throughout his 4 years at Wesley.

I wish I could make it.  Maybe if (and hopefully when) I film again, I will return to Alliance sometime in the future.  I wonder if Mount Union will be punting balls to our side of the field during warm-ups like they did last time we were there.  At least there won't be a Cecil Shorts doing wind sprints to the Wesley sideline during warm ups as well.  It seemed that Mount Union was bent on disrupting the Wolverine pre-game regimen.  That was the only game I have ever seen that happen and I wasn't too impressed.  That really stuck in my memory more than any other game I filmed in the three years with the team.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 02, 2013, 12:59:48 AM
Team....I told you before and I will tell you again......

Mount doesn't CARE if they are disrupting the other teams' pre-game warm-up.  Are you being serious?  It's not in their consideration.

Regardless of your interpretation on that day, you have a very incorrect view of what was going on. 

Enjoy the game on Saturday, and may the better team win. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2013, 01:25:12 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 02, 2013, 12:59:48 AM
Team....I told you before and I will tell you again......

Mount doesn't CARE if they are disrupting the other teams' pre-game warm-up.  Are you being serious?  It's not in their consideration.

Regardless of your interpretation on that day, you have a very incorrect view of what was going on. 

Enjoy the game on Saturday, and may the better team win.

Can you explain why they did what they did then?  It was obvious that having two kickers kicking balls across the field to their assistant coaches on the Wesley sidelines in the midst of Wesley team members was going to distract the team.  I had to keep my eye on the balls so I wouldn't get beaned by them.  Why would a team to something so obviously disruptive if it wasn't being done on purpose?  Punters always kick end zone to end zone during warm-up, except at Mount Union where they kick sideline to sideline into the other team for some reason.  Maybe they don't anymore.  You tell me.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 02, 2013, 02:21:02 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2013, 01:25:12 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 02, 2013, 12:59:48 AM
Team....I told you before and I will tell you again......

Mount doesn't CARE if they are disrupting the other teams' pre-game warm-up.  Are you being serious?  It's not in their consideration.

Regardless of your interpretation on that day, you have a very incorrect view of what was going on. 

Enjoy the game on Saturday, and may the better team win.

Can you explain why they did what they did then?  It was obvious that having two kickers kicking balls across the field to their assistant coaches on the Wesley sidelines in the midst of Wesley team members was going to distract the team.  I had to keep my eye on the balls so I wouldn't get beaned by them.  Why would a team to something so obviously disruptive if it wasn't being done on purpose?  Punters always kick end zone to end zone during warm-up, except at Mount Union where they kick sideline to sideline into the other team for some reason.  Maybe they don't anymore.  You tell me.

-Ski

Bring a copy of the championship handbook. Pregame warmup is very strictly prescribed in said manual.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2013, 02:57:14 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 02, 2013, 02:21:02 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2013, 01:25:12 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 02, 2013, 12:59:48 AM
Team....I told you before and I will tell you again......

Mount doesn't CARE if they are disrupting the other teams' pre-game warm-up.  Are you being serious?  It's not in their consideration.

Regardless of your interpretation on that day, you have a very incorrect view of what was going on. 

Enjoy the game on Saturday, and may the better team win.

Can you explain why they did what they did then?  It was obvious that having two kickers kicking balls across the field to their assistant coaches on the Wesley sidelines in the midst of Wesley team members was going to distract the team.  I had to keep my eye on the balls so I wouldn't get beaned by them.  Why would a team to something so obviously disruptive if it wasn't being done on purpose?  Punters always kick end zone to end zone during warm-up, except at Mount Union where they kick sideline to sideline into the other team for some reason.  Maybe they don't anymore.  You tell me.

-Ski

Bring a copy of the championship handbook. Pregame warmup is very strictly prescribed in said manual.

Page 16..... Yeah, they definitely weren't going by the book.    I know it is old history, but I am curious how it is currently handled.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 02, 2013, 08:58:39 AM
Don't know what the rule book says, but Wittenberg's kicker was practicing FG's from the 40 over top of Mount's QB/WR warm ups this past Saturday.     No biggie in my book.    Honestly thought it was pretty funny that Mount completely ignored him.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 02, 2013, 09:26:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 02, 2013, 02:21:02 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2013, 01:25:12 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 02, 2013, 12:59:48 AM
Team....I told you before and I will tell you again......

Mount doesn't CARE if they are disrupting the other teams' pre-game warm-up.  Are you being serious?  It's not in their consideration.

Regardless of your interpretation on that day, you have a very incorrect view of what was going on. 

Enjoy the game on Saturday, and may the better team win.

Can you explain why they did what they did then?  It was obvious that having two kickers kicking balls across the field to their assistant coaches on the Wesley sidelines in the midst of Wesley team members was going to distract the team.  I had to keep my eye on the balls so I wouldn't get beaned by them.  Why would a team to something so obviously disruptive if it wasn't being done on purpose?  Punters always kick end zone to end zone during warm-up, except at Mount Union where they kick sideline to sideline into the other team for some reason.  Maybe they don't anymore.  You tell me.

-Ski

Bring a copy of the championship handbook. Pregame warmup is very strictly prescribed in said manual.

They probably will. It's not like Wesley is opposed complaining to the NCAA if they feel a school or team is operating outside the strict regulations of the NCAA championship handbook.  In fact, they had BETTER complain about this or they could be accused of picking their spots and using the handbook like a buffet table. 

This is a safety issue for goodness sakes. A Mount Union practice punt could land on a Wesley player's head and KABOOM we have a concussion on our hands.

Keep us posted on when Wesley contacts the NCAA about this grievous and blatant violation and the NCAA response Ski. We are all interested in making sure NCAA justice is served once again.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 02, 2013, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2013, 02:57:14 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 02, 2013, 02:21:02 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2013, 01:25:12 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 02, 2013, 12:59:48 AM
Team....I told you before and I will tell you again......

Mount doesn't CARE if they are disrupting the other teams' pre-game warm-up.  Are you being serious?  It's not in their consideration.

Regardless of your interpretation on that day, you have a very incorrect view of what was going on. 

Enjoy the game on Saturday, and may the better team win.

Can you explain why they did what they did then?  It was obvious that having two kickers kicking balls across the field to their assistant coaches on the Wesley sidelines in the midst of Wesley team members was going to distract the team.  I had to keep my eye on the balls so I wouldn't get beaned by them.  Why would a team to something so obviously disruptive if it wasn't being done on purpose?  Punters always kick end zone to end zone during warm-up, except at Mount Union where they kick sideline to sideline into the other team for some reason.  Maybe they don't anymore.  You tell me.

-Ski

Bring a copy of the championship handbook. Pregame warmup is very strictly prescribed in said manual.

Page 16..... Yeah, they definitely weren't going by the book.    I know it is old history, but I am curious how it is currently handled.

-Ski

In the three games I attended the kickers/punters were not kicking across the field.  I wonder if there was a  "wind thing" going on or something?  I will say again I am pretty darn sure Mount wasn't trying to "diss" Wesley, or psych them out, or any silly thing like that.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 02, 2013, 11:44:54 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 02, 2013, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2013, 02:57:14 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 02, 2013, 02:21:02 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2013, 01:25:12 AM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 02, 2013, 12:59:48 AM
Team....I told you before and I will tell you again......

Mount doesn't CARE if they are disrupting the other teams' pre-game warm-up.  Are you being serious?  It's not in their consideration.

Regardless of your interpretation on that day, you have a very incorrect view of what was going on. 

Enjoy the game on Saturday, and may the better team win.

Can you explain why they did what they did then?  It was obvious that having two kickers kicking balls across the field to their assistant coaches on the Wesley sidelines in the midst of Wesley team members was going to distract the team.  I had to keep my eye on the balls so I wouldn't get beaned by them.  Why would a team to something so obviously disruptive if it wasn't being done on purpose?  Punters always kick end zone to end zone during warm-up, except at Mount Union where they kick sideline to sideline into the other team for some reason.  Maybe they don't anymore.  You tell me.

-Ski

Bring a copy of the championship handbook. Pregame warmup is very strictly prescribed in said manual.

Page 16..... Yeah, they definitely weren't going by the book.    I know it is old history, but I am curious how it is currently handled.

-Ski

In the three games I attended the kickers/punters were not kicking across the field.  I wonder if there was a  "wind thing" going on or something?  I will say again I am pretty darn sure Mount wasn't trying to "diss" Wesley, or psych them out, or any silly thing like that.

Then of course there is Whitewater who needed a temporary wall built to separate their coaches from Wesley's on the covered obseravation deck when they visited in 2010. But I think what really scares them is Leipold's purple suit. ;D It scared me anyway.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2013, 02:34:45 PM
wow, and I thought we might actually have some conversation about the game.  Ski, I do not recall this going on, but then again I was not there for the entire warm up.  It is a non-issue.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: purpled on December 02, 2013, 06:24:27 PM
Waterboy...good luck containing Burke and/or Mitchell and then there's our receivers. Not saying it can't be done but to stop all of them consistently is very difficult.

To all coming to A-Town...have a safe trip and remember you'll be in the east stands which are open and it's almost always windy. Right now those "weather people" are predicting a high of 27 with a few snow showers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2013, 09:46:52 PM
purpled 

I doubt the wind will bother the Wesley fans or players as it is windy (mostly toward the Wesley home stands) every home game..Now wet and windy messes up the glasses and makes for a miserable view.


bleedpurple

I see you have not matured one iota over the past few years!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2013, 10:11:36 PM
will be heading out to alliance for another trip to see friends at mount union.  as far as the game goes I think Wesley will have some trouble on offense, the O line is just not ready to handle what Mount will likely bring.  If by chance they can put together a running game they may be able to stay in it.  The 8 plus minute drive on saturday was nice to watch.  I think the defense will be able to keep them in the game for a bit, but in the end I just dont think Wesley is skilled enough to beat mount this year.  it will be a good experience for the young team and hopefully they can stay within 3 tds.  Safe travels to anyone making the trip.  I will be having mexican breakfast with some mount guys at don panchos at 10, a couple miles past the campus.  you are more than welcome to join us.  good conversation and margaritas in the morning before a game is always good to me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 02, 2013, 10:52:40 PM
Definitely an uphill battle for the Wolverines this year. Wesleydad is right, the Wesley offense will have to produce if the Wolverines have any chance at staying in it. I do think that with the establishment of a true starting tailback (Jackson and Baynard) and a year under this young o-line's belt may give them at least a fighting chance. Like I said, a heavy dose of Special K(oudossou) will be crucial this weekend.

When you play Mount in Alliance it is always an uphill battle. Think the way these Wesley players have played all season may make whatever homefield advantage Mount has negligible. Straight up football, and a good idea of how good Wesley will be going forward.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 02, 2013, 11:29:07 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 02, 2013, 09:46:52 PM
purpled 

I doubt the wind will bother the Wesley fans or players as it is windy (mostly toward the Wesley home stands) every home game..Now wet and windy messes up the glasses and makes for a miserable view.


bleedpurple

I see you have not matured one iota over the past few years!!!

Wow, didn't notice the emoticon, huh? Just a litte light-hearted jab. Lighten up, dude. You are in the quarterfinals again! Sorry if my immaturity hurt your feelings.  ;) (emoticon means this, too, was a joke).

But having said all that, as to your overall point? Probably not.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2013, 11:37:18 AM
I won't claim to be any kind of expert on Mt Union, but I'm thinking they will be sure to challenge our d-backs a bit.   Seems to be an annual theme for us, but one in particular is generally either very good (getting the interception) or pretty bad (giving up lots of yards after the catch), but has been learning and improving steadily.   However, overall the defense has been consistently strong as we've grown to expect from Wesley.   Everyone has mentioned our continuing issues on offense, and the line will most definitely have to play their best game yet.  If they can get Callahan a little time, he can throw one heck of a ball and has proven not to be gun shy.  I expect the momentum swings in this game to come from special teams plays, and likely go in Mt's favor.  All in all it should be another good game between two quality teams.

Still not sure if I'll be making the trip this year. Unfortunately my hubby is in the hospital for a couple weeks so I'm debating whether to stay with him or be the worst wife ever and head over....   I'm sure all who go will have a great time!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 03, 2013, 12:41:45 PM
My concern along with the offensive line is the cold weather.  Wesley is not a cold weather team, so I hope they are practicing cold if you know what I mean.  So far, above all other things, Wesley has done a stellar job at keeping the ball off of the ground and minimizing penalties.  I have never seen such discipline on ANY Wesley team I have watched since 2006.  The key is to maintain that level in a hostile stadium when it is cold out. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 03, 2013, 12:54:33 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 03, 2013, 12:41:45 PM
My concern along with the offensive line is the cold weather.  Wesley is not a cold weather team, so I hope they are practicing cold if you know what I mean.  So far, above all other things, Wesley has done a stellar job at keeping the ball off of the ground and minimizing penalties.  I have never seen such discipline on ANY Wesley team I have watched since 2006.  The key is to maintain that level in a hostile stadium when it is cold out. 

-Ski
28 and Mostly Cloudy, with a 20% chance of snow. Looks like a cold front will roll through the day before. Welcome to Ohio (the weather pretty much sucks from November to April  ;D)!

No turnovers or many penalties in the two playoff games so far. It will need to continue vs. Mount if Wesley wants a chance. I dont think the Alliance crowd will bother the Wolverines all that much though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2013, 01:01:13 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 03, 2013, 12:54:33 PM
I dont think the Alliance crowd will bother the Wolverines all that much though.

Agreed. While it's always been a great atmosphere in Alliance, I don't think it will compare to the crowd noise and other distractions (fireworks for goodness sake) endured at UNCC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 03, 2013, 01:44:41 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2013, 01:01:13 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 03, 2013, 12:54:33 PM
I dont think the Alliance crowd will bother the Wolverines all that much though.

Agreed. While it's always been a great atmosphere in Alliance, I don't think it will compare to the crowd noise and other distractions (fireworks for goodness sake) endured at UNCC.

Just watch out for the Punters during warm-ups.   ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2013, 06:25:28 PM
bleed purple

I knew I forgot something!!!! : :D ;D :o 8-)Hope that makes up for it!!!! I have been on this earth a few years and I still wonder when the maturity thing kicks in. If you ain't laughing you ain't living. :P
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 03, 2013, 07:58:12 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 03, 2013, 06:25:28 PM
bleed purple

I knew I forgot something!!!! : :D ;D :o 8-)Hope that makes up for it!!!! I have been on this earth a few years and I still wonder when the maturity thing kicks in. If you ain't laughing you ain't living. :P

;D Good luck in Alliance. This seems like a year both programs are thinking they will be even better the next couple of years than they are this year.  To me, that makes this year a real wild card. Hopefully, it will be a great game with no injuries.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: footballfan413 on December 04, 2013, 06:11:43 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2013, 11:37:18 AM
I won't claim to be any kind of expert on Mt Union, but I'm thinking they will be sure to challenge our d-backs a bit.   Seems to be an annual theme for us, but one in particular is generally either very good (getting the interception) or pretty bad (giving up lots of yards after the catch), but has been learning and improving steadily.   However, overall the defense has been consistently strong as we've grown to expect from Wesley.   Everyone has mentioned our continuing issues on offense, and the line will most definitely have to play their best game yet.  If they can get Callahan a little time, he can throw one heck of a ball and has proven not to be gun shy.  I expect the momentum swings in this game to come from special teams plays, and likely go in Mt's favor.  All in all it should be another good game between two quality teams.

Still not sure if I'll be making the trip this year. Unfortunately my hubby is in the hospital for a couple weeks so I'm debating whether to stay with him or be the worst wife ever and head over....   I'm sure all who go will have a great time!
No way, the worst wife ever!  I once left my hubby at home, 3 days after hernia surgery and a daughter, about a week out of ovarian cyst surgery, to go see my son play in a CIFL arena football game.  He had been asked to fill in, last minute, by an ex-teammate.    Kind of a one time deal, and they knew I wasn't going to miss it.  But hey, not like they were any fun to be around!   ;D   In all seriousness, so sorry to hear that you hubby in in the hospital.  Wishing him a speedy recovery. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 04, 2013, 08:54:02 PM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 04, 2013, 06:11:43 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2013, 11:37:18 AM
I won't claim to be any kind of expert on Mt Union, but I'm thinking they will be sure to challenge our d-backs a bit.   Seems to be an annual theme for us, but one in particular is generally either very good (getting the interception) or pretty bad (giving up lots of yards after the catch), but has been learning and improving steadily.   However, overall the defense has been consistently strong as we've grown to expect from Wesley.   Everyone has mentioned our continuing issues on offense, and the line will most definitely have to play their best game yet.  If they can get Callahan a little time, he can throw one heck of a ball and has proven not to be gun shy.  I expect the momentum swings in this game to come from special teams plays, and likely go in Mt's favor.  All in all it should be another good game between two quality teams.

Still not sure if I'll be making the trip this year. Unfortunately my hubby is in the hospital for a couple weeks so I'm debating whether to stay with him or be the worst wife ever and head over....   I'm sure all who go will have a great time!
No way, the worst wife ever!  I once left my hubby at home, 3 days after hernia surgery and a daughter, about a week out of ovarian cyst surgery, to go see my son play in a CIFL arena football game.  He had been asked to fill in, last minute, by an ex-teammate.    Kind of a one time deal, and they knew I wasn't going to miss it.  But hey, not like they were any fun to be around!   ;D   In all seriousness, so sorry to hear that you hubby in in the hospital.  Wishing him a speedy recovery.

So sorry to hear about your husband, too. And as unbelievable as it may seem by some of my posts, I actually really do pray.  ;)

I will pray for your hubby's quick healing!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 05, 2013, 09:50:32 PM
Thank you both for your thoughts and prayers.  Makes me feel much better that I'm not the only one who would leave a loved one in favor of a game ;)  Between his issues and the weather, it's looking more like I'll be sitting this one out.  Hope the guys from WDEL do another great job of calling the game since there doesn't seem to be video available (sorry to bring up an obviously sore subject discussed ad nauseum on the Mt U board).  Enjoy everyone, and may the best team win!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 06, 2013, 09:44:13 PM
Good luck to the Wolverines tomorrow!  I will be at school during the game so I am going to miss out on the nail biting.  Stay sharp and keep fast out there Wesley!   :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 06, 2013, 10:03:03 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on December 05, 2013, 09:50:32 PM
Thank you both for your thoughts and prayers.  Makes me feel much better that I'm not the only one who would leave a loved one in favor of a game ;)  Between his issues and the weather, it's looking more like I'll be sitting this one out.  Hope the guys from WDEL do another great job of calling the game since there doesn't seem to be video available (sorry to bring up an obviously sore subject discussed ad nauseum on the Mt U board).  Enjoy everyone, and may the best team win!

You're more than welcome. Hoping and praying your husband heals quickly and I hope you enjoy listening to the game!

Good luck to the Wolverines tomorrow and no injuries!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 07, 2013, 12:23:28 PM
Come home for lunch to catch the first part of the game and it is an absolute disaster.  Amazing.   :'(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D O.C. on December 07, 2013, 12:31:06 PM
Oh woe Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 07, 2013, 12:37:48 PM
 I think I am going to be sick.    :-X

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 07, 2013, 01:38:50 PM
I think it's safe to say nobody thought we'd see a first half quite like that!  I know it might not be popular with everyone, but have to say I like the Mt U calls for the onside kick and fake punt.  Never assume a lead is too big in a game like this, and nothing wrong with pulling out all the stops.

Is the officiating as bad in person as it sounds like on the radio?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 07, 2013, 03:26:18 PM
WOW!!!!!!  That is the best loss ever!!!  :o  I get out of class and BOOM, I am listening to Wesley kicking an onside kick with 90 seconds left trailing 62-59!  Absolutely friggin' amazing.

Well done Wesley.  You guys showed the DIII world who you are.  Next year, bring it home!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 07, 2013, 03:27:35 PM
Wow.  If anybody told me yesterday we'd score 50+ today, 1)I wouldn't believe it, and 2)would have sworn we'd have won handily.  Can't say enough about how proud I am of this team for fighting back today (and all year) like they did.  Sorry this year's seniors didn't make it a little further, but next year ahould be freakin' awesome.  Safe travels home for everybody.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on December 07, 2013, 03:28:18 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on December 07, 2013, 01:38:50 PM
I think it's safe to say nobody thought we'd see a first half quite like that!  I know it might not be popular with everyone, but have to say I like the Mt U calls for the onside kick and fake punt.  Never assume a lead is too big in a game like this, and nothing wrong with pulling out all the stops.

Is the officiating as bad in person as it sounds like on the radio?

I have to say that Wesley played like the #1 team for 3 quarters, they just couldn't get pass that horrendous 1st quarter. My hats go off to Wesley, they showed that's why you play 4 qtr and thats why you don't play games on paper. I think you guys were the better team based on the live stats.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 07, 2013, 03:29:18 PM
Heard the officiating crew was from Minnesota. I'm embarrassed for my home state.

Now we get to hear the UMU elite fans condescend. Like they had it all along.

Yeah, I'm wizzed. But I'll get over it.

Congrats to the Wolverines.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 07, 2013, 03:41:43 PM
Ok. I'm sorry. Mount Fans are being very nice. My bad.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Kelly Boggs on December 07, 2013, 04:19:20 PM
Wow, what an effort by Wesley today. Talking about digging out of a hole. Congrats on a good season, the Wolverines were a gritty bunch this year, that is for sure.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 07, 2013, 06:42:03 PM
Just got back from Alliance a little while ago. Man, so close again. Take away 1 bonehead play and Wesley wins that game.... extremely proud of how they battled being down 31-0 in the first quarter. If that game goes a minute more, Wesley wins. They couldnt stop Callahan. A lot of good things to take away from the last 3 quarters. I was filming on the sideline, and it was amazing how 31-0 could be nullified even in Alliance v. Mount. Couldnt be happier about a loss. Nothing to be sad about other than we wont see the field next week. They played their hearts out and were 1 play, 1 flag, or even one bounce away from winning that game.

The referees were god awful. Never seen worse. The pass interference on Koudossou killed Wesley's momentum after recovering the onside kick. The ineligible receiver call that set Mount up for a FG was questionable (that was a game changer). It was also questionable at the end of the game there was more than 40 sec. left on the clock, which would have meant a punt.... oh well. Over now.

Great season Wesley! Looking forward to what youll bring in 2014.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 07, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
An epic end to an epic season.  Wesley was awesome this year.  They bounced back when they needed to and just a breadth of fortune and they could have pulled out one of the most improbable wins in DIII history.  Next year may just be the year Wesley moves on.  Now the long, painful wait until then.  Water Boy, great to know that you got to see something the rest of us didn't.  That game will live on forever in Wolverine lore, at least until Wesley makes the finals!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Toby Taff on December 07, 2013, 07:23:32 PM
Way to step up Wesley after a crazy start to the game! Your game had me listening to you and watching the UMHB game. Way to represent the South region and Pool B. Wish we could have had round 2 in the Stagg
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 07, 2013, 11:15:05 PM
Just got back from Alliance.  Spent the first quarter saying " I can't believe I drove 6 hours for this mess".  Everything went wrong that could have.  At the end of the game I was saying" I am glad I drove 6 hours for this".  Just a gutty comeback from 31-0.  No one at the game figured they would still be sitting there at the end hoping Mount recovered the onside kick.  One loud Mount fan even left at 31-0 saying he would be back next week, boy wouldn't that have been fun to see his face had Wesley won the game.  The defense struggled at times, but did a nice job containing both Burke and #4.  Coach Knapp made some nice adjustments to Mounts blitzing on every play with screens and short routes.  In the end it was Callahan who made the change to his game.  He slid out of trouble time after time and found the open receiver which wasn't that hard since Mounts secondary is not very good.  633 yds and 8 TD's in insane.  I was sitting with my Mount friends and they could not believe what they were seeing.  In the end I think the punt return is the killer, 3 players had a hit on the returner and did not make the tackle, just can't happen.  The other play the I and the Mount fans think changed the way the game was going was the fake punt which failed miserably.  At that point it is 31-0, punt it deep and make Wesley drive the field, instead they have it near midfield and the weak secondary started to cave in.  Still at 48-20 at the half we were just hoping to keep them under 70.  Then at 48-41 we were in disbelief.  In the end it was not to be, but this is going to be a very good team next year.

good to chat with waterboy, you almost called the comeback which would have been epic.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DGPugh on December 08, 2013, 12:18:37 AM
Yall got beat............but man...never quit, AUsome come back
Great great season to Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: theaprof on December 08, 2013, 09:57:17 AM
Congratulations to Wesley on a hell of a game!  As most Mount fans were, I was stunned at the inability of our secondary to keep your receivers in front of them.  Kudos to your receivers, your QB, your coach and to the whole team for not caving early.  I have always liked your team and have a new, greater respect for them after yesterday's game.  I am glad Mount won, but feel that you deserve lots of praise.  I would suggest that you steal and adapt the Wabash slogan:

Wabash Wesley always fights!

Again, congratulations on a great game and a fantastic comeback.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 08, 2013, 02:10:02 PM
Well now that some of the adrenaline has subsided. I would like to make some amends to my previous post. 1.) Refs missed several calls on both sides. 2.) Mount did an excellent job making Wesley pay for its mistakes. Rooting for them the rest of the way (I dont want anyone beating them except for Wesley  ;D). Burke is the real deal. I love the way he plays the game. At the end of the day, it was the 6 turnovers that did Wesley in. Great teams dont turn the ball over, Mount did that yesterday. Very weird, but hard fought game. Wesley was one play short yet again. I feel they are so close to breaking through. If you keep knocking on the door, eventually itll be time to bust it down.

Good seeing Wesleydad making the trip out, and Im glad that he got his money's worth for making the trip. For a second I thought it was going to be Linfield all over again. SOOOOOOO close. Ski, make sure you schedule your classes differently next fall ;)

Both teams will be more dangerous next season for sure. Wesley is going to return everyone except Howe, Herald, and Morris. They will hopefully bring back all those guys that were injured during the season (two DTs, some OLs, Leon Jones, Bundy ect). Future looks bright indeed.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 08, 2013, 07:02:51 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 08, 2013, 02:10:02 PM.

Good seeing Wesleydad making the trip out, and Im glad that he got his money's worth for making the trip. For a second I thought it was going to be Linfield all over again. SOOOOOOO close. Ski, make sure you schedule your classes differently next fall ;)

Both teams will be more dangerous next season for sure. Wesley is going to return everyone except Howe, Herald, and Morris. They will hopefully bring back all those guys that were injured during the season (two DTs, some OLs, Leon Jones, Bundy ect). Future looks bright indeed.

I should be good next year as I will be working on my internship.  I also hope that I will be returning to do some of the filming.  I don't think I will be able to do most of the away games as I will most likely be teaching classes on Fridays......or make sure I teach Tue/Thurs........ I will have to work on that.  ;)

This has been one hell of a season.  I am still torn over yesterday's game.  I am SO proud of how Wesley nearly pulled out one of the largest deficits in DIII history and yet I am heartbroken they couldn't quite pull it off.   Next year, if they can get their ducks together, they may just be able to get to the big show.  We can only hope.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 11, 2013, 08:52:52 PM
It. still. hurts.  :'( We were so close. Next year I guess. Cant help but be proud of the way the Wolverines grew as this season went on. Who's got next year's schedule?

Also congrats to all the Wesley players who got all-region: Sosthene Kapepula (1st). Koudossou, George (I'm excited to see him develop), Filliben and Morris (2nd). Finally Zane Campbell (3rd), the only freshman on the All-South teams. The secondary should be stellar next season with Leon Jones returning. I also feel that Derrick Bender played some excellent CB this year as well. Should have made All-Region as well, INTs werent there i dont think (felt like no one ever threw his way though).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 12, 2013, 02:43:08 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 11, 2013, 08:52:52 PM
It. still. hurts.  :'( We were so close. Next year I guess. Cant help but be proud of the way the Wolverines grew as this season went on. Who's got next year's schedule?

Also congrats to all the Wesley players who got all-region: Sosthene Kapepula (1st). Koudossou, George (I'm excited to see him develop), Filliben and Morris (2nd). Finally Zane Campbell (3rd), the only freshman on the All-South teams. The secondary should be stellar next season with Leon Jones returning. I also feel that Derrick Bender played some excellent CB this year as well. Should have made All-Region as well, INTs werent there i dont think (felt like no one ever threw his way though).

Bender plays such great run support out their too. He had a lot of TFLs for a corner.

I was looking back at some game stats and I still just amazed at the numbers that they put up against Mount.

Scoring was difficult through parts of the season. The Menlo game they only had 181 yards of total offense. Just amazed at the job Knapp and the the unit did after the off week and moving forward. Sure, guys got healthy, but if you'd have told me six weeks ago they would score 59 on UMU there is no way I would have believed it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 12, 2013, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 11, 2013, 08:52:52 PM
It. still. hurts.  :'( We were so close. Next year I guess. Cant help but be proud of the way the Wolverines grew as this season went on. Who's got next year's schedule?

Also congrats to all the Wesley players who got all-region: Sosthene Kapepula (1st). Koudossou, George (I'm excited to see him develop), Filliben and Morris (2nd). Finally Zane Campbell (3rd), the only freshman on the All-South teams. The secondary should be stellar next season with Leon Jones returning. I also feel that Derrick Bender played some excellent CB this year as well. Should have made All-Region as well, INTs werent there i dont think (felt like no one ever threw his way though).

No doubt!  Well done to our all-region players!  We'll see you guys next year in what I think is going to be a break-out season.  I talked with Sean Hopkins and he mentioned that he will be back next year after redshirting this year.  After talking with him, I really think Wesley is lining up for a stellar 2014 season; one that I think could break the semi-final jinx.  The 59 points ran up against Mount Union I think is a portent of what is to come.  The defense was pretty solid this year but the offense that I thought would continue to stumble is starting to show its teeth like I never expected.  Kyle George is going to be a monster with the wide receiving trio returning.   Get the running game established and it is off to the races.  I certainly can't wait to see the Crusaders in Scott D. Miller stadium play the refined Wesley team that grew up this year.  Oh so excited.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 12, 2013, 08:36:53 PM
Are we sure that UMHB is coming up again this year, if so that would be great.  May be playing the national champs at the point.  Not sure how it all fell together, but the Mount game was really weird all around.  If it is a sign of things to come then it will be fun to see this team play next year.  O line will be better just by more time together.  Everyone has to do their job in the offseason and come back ready from day 1.  This year was a pretty slow start and the Rowan game is still annoying to me.  All in all the quarter finals again is just great.  Wesley is one of the top programs in the country and everyone following D3 knows their name.  Not a bad team to be following and talking about where ever I end up watching a game each week.  Will be proudly wearing my Wesley jersey this Friday in Salem for the Stagg Bowl.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 13, 2013, 09:46:52 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 12, 2013, 08:36:53 PM
Are we sure that UMHB is coming up again this year, if so that would be great.  May be playing the national champs at the point.  Not sure how it all fell together, but the Mount game was really weird all around.  If it is a sign of things to come then it will be fun to see this team play next year.  O line will be better just by more time together.  Everyone has to do their job in the offseason and come back ready from day 1.  This year was a pretty slow start and the Rowan game is still annoying to me.  All in all the quarter finals again is just great.  Wesley is one of the top programs in the country and everyone following D3 knows their name.  Not a bad team to be following and talking about where ever I end up watching a game each week.  Will be proudly wearing my Wesley jersey this Friday in Salem for the Stagg Bowl.

To be honest, I don't know for sure, but an assumption that UMHB would visit Wesley next year.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on December 13, 2013, 10:24:50 AM
I haven't heard anything official but I believe Coach Pete said a while back that Wesley was on their list of hopeful games next season. Obviously I can't complain to you guys about scheduling but we will need 5 out of conference games next year so I think we are going to be willing to play anybody anytime to get a full schedule.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 13, 2013, 11:05:14 AM
I would assume Salisbury and UMHB will be on the schedule next season. I heard that the team will be travelling to UNC-Charlotte again, and potentially LC was going to come to Wesley (at least that is what I heard from a poster from LC).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 13, 2013, 05:10:35 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 13, 2013, 11:05:14 AM
I would assume Salisbury and UMHB will be on the schedule next season. I heard that the team will be travelling to UNC-Charlotte again, and potentially LC was going to come to Wesley (at least that is what I heard from a poster from LC).

It would be interesting to see Wesley play a scholarship FBS team if they play Charlotte again next year.  A very interesting decision to play up out of division two years running.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 14, 2013, 12:40:22 AM
DE Wesleyfan,

How is your husband doing? I hope and pray all is well.

Enjoy the games for all who follow them tomorrow!

BP
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 14, 2013, 12:45:56 PM
Thanks so much for asking.  Feels like crap, but Dr's are pleased with his progress and with any luck he'll get back home the middle of next week (fingers crossed).  We at least got to listen to the game together last Saturday, and I think not being there may have been the most painful part of this whole process!  Looking forward to this week's games and to see who can end up on top at the Stagg. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on December 14, 2013, 07:50:35 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on December 14, 2013, 12:45:56 PM
Thanks so much for asking.  Feels like crap, but Dr's are pleased with his progress and with any luck he'll get back home the middle of next week (fingers crossed).  We at least got to listen to the game together last Saturday, and I think not being there may have been the most painful part of this whole process!  Looking forward to this week's games and to see who can end up on top at the Stagg.

Sorry he is not feeling well but glad the progress is going well.  Sorry you had to miss the game last week but it looks like there is a lot to look forward to with this Wesley team! Here's hoping your husband recovers quickly and you have a great Christmas and a great "off season"!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 15, 2013, 12:14:12 AM
Sounded like two more really competitive games today.  Had wished the Cru had been able to hold on, but such is life I suppose.  Not to rehash a discussion we seem to have most every year, but I really do wish these games would be nationally televised, especially on a day like today when there wasn't a whole lot on to see.  ESPN3 just doesn't count........  Safe travels to everyone headed to VA next week - enjoy the game!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 15, 2013, 12:24:45 AM
Without a doubt, the closest in a long time.  Things ought to be interesting next year as it seems like we are starting to get some parity in the top 10......Wesley included, of course!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 21, 2013, 12:15:43 AM
  Now that the Stagg Bowl is behind us, I would like to thank the Wesley Wolverines for another great season.  I really feel that the team is closer to that illusive final than ever before.  This next season is going to be extremely interesting!!  Happy Holidays everyone.  And be safe out there!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 21, 2013, 12:55:21 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 21, 2013, 12:15:43 AM
  Now that the Stagg Bowl is behind us, I would like to thank the Wesley Wolverines for another great season.  I really feel that the team is closer to that illusive final than ever before.  This next season is going to be extremely interesting!!  Happy Holidays everyone.  And be safe out there!!

-Ski

happy holidays to you too ski.  Wesley has a lot of work to do if they are going to compete with the UWW team I saw last night.  UWW loses plenty on defense so that may keep them from dominating next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 25, 2013, 12:36:26 PM
Merry Christmas to all the Wesley fans.  Another good season, maybe a little better than expected.  The results of the last game certainly give one hope for next year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on January 17, 2014, 09:28:08 PM
Hey all! Heres the "Wesley" side of the highlights from the Mount Union game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGe02C1IVtE
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on January 20, 2014, 10:39:41 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on January 17, 2014, 09:28:08 PM
Hey all! Heres the "Wesley" side of the highlights from the Mount Union game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGe02C1IVtE

It was nice to actually get a chance to see how the game transpired.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 27, 2014, 02:02:37 AM
It is official.  It was announced by E-Mail that Wesley Football (only) will be joining a conference in 2015.  Which conference that is, I have not a clue.   Saving money and away time for travel was cited as the reasons.  Now to ponder which one.......

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on January 27, 2014, 09:09:19 AM
Quote from: Teamski on January 27, 2014, 02:02:37 AM
It is official.  It was announced by E-Mail that Wesley Football (only) will be joining a conference in 2015.  Which conference that is, I have not a clue.   Saving money and away time for travel was cited as the reasons.  Now to ponder which one.......

-Ski

That's great news. Will be interesting to see which conference. Of course, citing saving money and away time for travel leaves the door open for a non-AQ CAC, since they didn't cite getting an AQ for the playoffs. Will be interesting how it shakes out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wally_wabash on January 30, 2014, 02:35:05 PM
Quote from: jknezek on January 27, 2014, 09:09:19 AM
Quote from: Teamski on January 27, 2014, 02:02:37 AM
It is official.  It was announced by E-Mail that Wesley Football (only) will be joining a conference in 2015.  Which conference that is, I have not a clue.   Saving money and away time for travel was cited as the reasons.  Now to ponder which one.......

-Ski

That's great news. Will be interesting to see which conference. Of course, citing saving money and away time for travel leaves the door open for a non-AQ CAC, since they didn't cite getting an AQ for the playoffs. Will be interesting how it shakes out.

Think there might be an interested partner now (http://d3football.com/notables/2014/01/cortland-joins-archrival-in-empire-8).  This is too obvious to not happen, right? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on January 30, 2014, 03:07:00 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 30, 2014, 02:35:05 PM
Quote from: jknezek on January 27, 2014, 09:09:19 AM
Quote from: Teamski on January 27, 2014, 02:02:37 AM
It is official.  It was announced by E-Mail that Wesley Football (only) will be joining a conference in 2015.  Which conference that is, I have not a clue.   Saving money and away time for travel was cited as the reasons.  Now to ponder which one.......

-Ski

That's great news. Will be interesting to see which conference. Of course, citing saving money and away time for travel leaves the door open for a non-AQ CAC, since they didn't cite getting an AQ for the playoffs. Will be interesting how it shakes out.

Think there might be an interested partner now (http://d3football.com/notables/2014/01/cortland-joins-archrival-in-empire-8).  This is too obvious to not happen, right?

Only if there is a work around for the roster limits. I believe the NJAC is limited to 100, and Wesley would be well over that. Could be the E8 is now planning to drop Salisbury and Frostburg. That opens the door for a non-AQ CAC. Salisbury, Frostburg, Wesley, SVA (who probably won't last in the NJAC), CNU if they leave the USAC for football. Still need a few more for an AQ, as has always been the problem. I think by the way the release was quoted you'll see a CAC conference with a non-AQ...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wally_wabash on January 30, 2014, 03:21:33 PM
Do we think that on Jan. 27 Wesley lets people know that they'll be in a conference in 2015 and on Jan. 30 Cortland tells us that they are leaving the NJAC in 2015- which, along with Brockport's leaving this fall, takes the NJAC down to just six teams- is all just coincidence?  I mean, it totally could be.  Or the folks at the NJAC and Wesley may have had some informal conversations regarding the what-ifs of a Cortland possibly leaving, of which they probably had an inkling was coming (these things generally aren't sudden and surprising). 

Rowan and Kean have both beaten Wesley recently.  It's not as if there is evidence that Wesley would automatically come in and dominate the league- as in win the thing easily every year.  The league could use the addition (for competitive purposes as well tournament access purposes), Wesley could use the addition (playing games against Menlo is silly), and the East region could use the addition quite frankly.  Everybody wins.  I hope this happens. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on January 30, 2014, 03:47:14 PM
Quote from: jknezek on January 30, 2014, 03:07:00 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 30, 2014, 02:35:05 PM
Quote from: jknezek on January 27, 2014, 09:09:19 AM
Quote from: Teamski on January 27, 2014, 02:02:37 AM
It is official.  It was announced by E-Mail that Wesley Football (only) will be joining a conference in 2015.  Which conference that is, I have not a clue.   Saving money and away time for travel was cited as the reasons.  Now to ponder which one.......

-Ski

That's great news. Will be interesting to see which conference. Of course, citing saving money and away time for travel leaves the door open for a non-AQ CAC, since they didn't cite getting an AQ for the playoffs. Will be interesting how it shakes out.

Think there might be an interested partner now (http://d3football.com/notables/2014/01/cortland-joins-archrival-in-empire-8).  This is too obvious to not happen, right?

Only if there is a work around for the roster limits. I believe the NJAC is limited to 100, and Wesley would be well over that. Could be the E8 is now planning to drop Salisbury and Frostburg. That opens the door for a non-AQ CAC. Salisbury, Frostburg, Wesley, SVA (who probably won't last in the NJAC), CNU if they leave the USAC for football. Still need a few more for an AQ, as has always been the problem. I think by the way the release was quoted you'll see a CAC conference with a non-AQ...

I am a little bit indifferent about the situation around the 100 player limit. I am sure the Board is reviewing it, since they are losing a good school like Cortland State, who do they get to replace them? I think that you may see some other schools joining the CAC as football only members or vice versa to the NJAC.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wally_wabash on January 30, 2014, 04:16:14 PM
Admittedly doing a little bit of self-educating here as I don't have a firm grip on our mid-atlantic leagues...I didn't realize until about 90 seconds ago that the Capital AC already includes Wesley, Salisbury, Frostburg St., CNU, and SVU.  That group is a lot closer to having an AQ football league than I had realized.  Totally possible that the CAC has hooks into one or two schools to join as affiliates and get an AQ or has a member school considering adding the sport (that the rest of us don't know about yet). 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on January 30, 2014, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 30, 2014, 03:21:33 PM
Do we think that on Jan. 27 Wesley lets people know that they'll be in a conference in 2015 and on Jan. 30 Cortland tells us that they are leaving the NJAC in 2015- which, along with Brockport's leaving this fall, takes the NJAC down to just six teams- is all just coincidence?  I mean, it totally could be.  Or the folks at the NJAC and Wesley may have had some informal conversations regarding the what-ifs of a Cortland possibly leaving, of which they probably had an inkling was coming (these things generally aren't sudden and surprising). 

Rowan and Kean have both beaten Wesley recently.  It's not as if there is evidence that Wesley would automatically come in and dominate the league- as in win the thing easily every year.  The league could use the addition (for competitive purposes as well tournament access purposes), Wesley could use the addition (playing games against Menlo is silly), and the East region could use the addition quite frankly.  Everybody wins.  I hope this happens.

I don't disagree with any of this Wally. Wesley joining the NJAC makes all kinds of sense. But I will be interested in the roster issue. I could see the NJAC dropping it entirely. Some schools might be in support to try and boost enrollment a bit while others like Montclair St., possibly the biggest school by enrollment in D3, wouldn't see a blip if the roster went to 300. Keep travel limits but let the roster be whatever you want and the added expenses are minor, a few more uniforms, more training room expenses etc., and possibly some Title IX issues, but it can't be that many for 50-100 non-travelling football players. What do I know?

Wesley would certainly make up for Cortland leaving in terms of quality, plus a little more. But I still believe long term Salisbury and Frostberg in the E8 and SVA in the NJAC is not a solution.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on January 30, 2014, 11:04:30 PM
Yeah, I would be surprised if Wesley would entertain having a handicapped roster limit.  That would certainly have a big impact on recruitment.  It will be interesting to see where Wesley lands.  I would love to see the CAC get football after years of speculation about it.  It only makes sense to get all of the sports under on umbrella.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2014, 12:34:16 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 30, 2014, 04:16:14 PM
Admittedly doing a little bit of self-educating here as I don't have a firm grip on our mid-atlantic leagues...I didn't realize until about 90 seconds ago that the Capital AC already includes Wesley, Salisbury, Frostburg St., CNU, and SVU.  That group is a lot closer to having an AQ football league than I had realized.  Totally possible that the CAC has hooks into one or two schools to join as affiliates and get an AQ or has a member school considering adding the sport (that the rest of us don't know about yet).

I don't know who they would be -- they'd need to have other schools add football to get to seven.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wally_wabash on January 31, 2014, 10:03:21 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2014, 12:34:16 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 30, 2014, 04:16:14 PM
Admittedly doing a little bit of self-educating here as I don't have a firm grip on our mid-atlantic leagues...I didn't realize until about 90 seconds ago that the Capital AC already includes Wesley, Salisbury, Frostburg St., CNU, and SVU.  That group is a lot closer to having an AQ football league than I had realized.  Totally possible that the CAC has hooks into one or two schools to join as affiliates and get an AQ or has a member school considering adding the sport (that the rest of us don't know about yet).

I don't know who they would be -- they'd need to have other schools add football to get to seven.

Oh I have no idea either, just thinking out loud is all.  Mostly I was just surprised to learn that they (CAC) are only two teams away from having an AQ league and not three or four or more.  And that the league isn't all that bad with Wesley, Salisbury, and CNU all in play.  There's some quality baked into that league already.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on January 31, 2014, 11:58:15 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2014, 12:34:16 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 30, 2014, 04:16:14 PM
Admittedly doing a little bit of self-educating here as I don't have a firm grip on our mid-atlantic leagues...I didn't realize until about 90 seconds ago that the Capital AC already includes Wesley, Salisbury, Frostburg St., CNU, and SVU.  That group is a lot closer to having an AQ football league than I had realized.  Totally possible that the CAC has hooks into one or two schools to join as affiliates and get an AQ or has a member school considering adding the sport (that the rest of us don't know about yet). K

I don't know who they would be -- they'd need to have other schools add football to get to seven.

I still believe that Catholic and Stevenson would fit perfectly as CAC affiliates, but they both seem to be pretty content with their current situations. Besides which, having Catholic in the ODAC keeps us at eight and makes filling a 10 game schedule easier.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on January 31, 2014, 01:48:33 PM
Regarding Stevenson, the MAC has not been receptive to letting their members be associates of other conferences for football.  I heard that was raised as a possibility and rejected when Moravian, Juniata and Susquehanna left the MAC for football and then joined a new conference for everything else. As the story goes, at least one of those schools only wanted to leave for football and was told their MAC membership was all or nothing. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on January 31, 2014, 02:23:50 PM
I dont think it would be smart for Wesley to go NJAC, the roster cap makes too little sense when you have 200ish players turning up to camp every year. With the financial situation Wesley is in, they benefit from every possible player they can get to come to Wesley in hopes of playing football. Now, if the NJAC does away with the roster limit, it is financially and logically a better option. NJAC with a roster limit is just not the most clear-cut path for Wesley at this point in the game.

I think if Wesley were to go anywhere in the near future I would have to say Empire 8. After the ACFC disbanded all but Wesley and Newport News (not a true D3) were taken by the E8. Imagine that conference with Wesley. whew. That being said, it also makes sense to remain independent, so long as there is a pool B bid available, and they can find the formula for success, which they have been able to do since becoming an independent. Thats why, IMO, Wesley has great advantage when taking on just about anyone outside the Purple Powers come playoff time. No week is a cakewalk.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on January 31, 2014, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on January 31, 2014, 02:23:50 PM
I dont think it would be smart for Wesley to go NJAC, the roster cap makes too little sense when you have 200ish players turning up to camp every year. With the financial situation Wesley is in, they benefit from every possible player they can get to come to Wesley in hopes of playing football. Now, if the NJAC does away with the roster limit, it is financially and logically a better option. NJAC with a roster limit is just not the most clear-cut path for Wesley at this point in the game.

I think if Wesley were to go anywhere in the near future I would have to say Empire 8. After the ACFC disbanded all but Wesley and Newport News (not a true D3) were taken by the E8. Imagine that conference with Wesley. whew. That being said, it also makes sense to remain independent, so long as there is a pool B bid available, and they can find the formula for success, which they have been able to do since becoming an independent. Thats why, IMO, Wesley has great advantage when taking on just about anyone outside the Purple Powers come playoff time. No week is a cakewalk.

The E8 is approaching max size. I can't believe they would add Wesley. Even losing Salisbury and Frostburg no longer threatens their AQ. Brockport and Cortland keep them at 8, if they kick out the outliers, with Alfred State a natural fit to go to 9.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2014, 03:20:04 PM
Yes, or Alfred State could bolster the CAC's AQ push.

As far as I know, Catholic still really likes playing football in the ODAC. And as Gordon pointed out, Stevenson is not available.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on January 31, 2014, 05:18:22 PM
Or maybe McMurry will join the NJAC. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2014, 05:45:33 PM
Or McMurry and Wesley will join the SCAC. :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on February 06, 2014, 06:01:42 PM
For Wesley fans:

Possibly some of you saw the letter in yesterdays (Wednesday, Feb. 5th) edition of the Dover Post submitted by a Mr. Tom Felice suggesting Wesley and Delaware State (not UD) begin a football rivalry.

Wondering what your thoughts are on this and if you think there is even a remote possibility of such a matchup coming to fruition?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 07, 2014, 06:11:27 PM
NedM

I don't know if that would happen. It would probably already have happened. There are a lot of things that would keep it from happening.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 09, 2014, 09:59:38 AM
Quote from: NedM on February 06, 2014, 06:01:42 PM
For Wesley fans:

Possibly some of you saw the letter in yesterdays (Wednesday, Feb. 5th) edition of the Dover Post submitted by a Mr. Tom Felice suggesting Wesley and Delaware State (not UD) begin a football rivalry.

Wondering what your thoughts are on this and if you think there is even a remote possibility of such a matchup coming to fruition?

I didn't see it myself (I will have to go downstairs to have a look, now).  I have never heard of such a game ever being planned.  I think the Del State/UD match-up makes more sense.  Sure, Del State has been blown out in every game, but the rivalry does give them a target to shoot for. That said, it would be interested to see Wesley play Del State.  You figure that UD plays Chester (Div II) every year, so this wouldn't be too much out of that pairing.  Perhaps it is a bit bruising to the ego for Del State to play Wesley (just a hunch).  Remember that Del State isn't a new program by any stretch and has size to match.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on February 09, 2014, 07:37:59 PM
Nothing to gain for DelState in playing Wesley. a win the and it's expected, lose and it's embarrassing.

Conference info will be announced in early March .
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 09, 2014, 11:30:02 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on February 09, 2014, 07:37:59 PM
Nothing to gain for DelState in playing Wesley. a win the and it's expected, lose and it's embarrassing.

Conference info will announced in early March .

Thanks for the heads-up!  We await with baited breath!  :)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: crufootball on February 10, 2014, 09:50:49 AM
Quote from: @d3jason on February 09, 2014, 07:37:59 PM
Nothing to gain for DelState in playing Wesley. a win the and it's expected, lose and it's embarrassing.

Conference info will announced in early March .

Does Wesley usually like to "tease" announcements like this?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 10, 2014, 09:29:55 PM
  This is not Wesley's announcement to make.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on February 11, 2014, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on February 10, 2014, 09:29:55 PM
  This is not Wesley's announcement to make.  ;D

Yeah, one thing about football is that information withheld is usually done for a good reason.  My guess here is that there are probably quite a few details not ironed out or ratified as of yet.   This should be interesting!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on February 17, 2014, 12:46:16 AM
Heard that Justin Sottilare is headed to Germany to play football for the Franken Knights in April. Shane McSweeny is also planning on suiting up here in a month or so for the Lehugh Valley Steelhawks of the IFL.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on March 03, 2014, 01:21:24 PM
now that it is officially announced this is great for wesley.  having a strong conference to play in and still have the players needed for the school financially, albeit, a little less is great.  no more looking for teams to play and the travel for them and me to see them play got much shorter.  very strong at the top with wesley, salisbury, and rowen.  cnu will have to play up some but will be tough for anyone.  really exciting to me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on March 03, 2014, 01:21:57 PM
Agree, wesleydad.  I think this is great for all parties.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on March 03, 2014, 01:26:48 PM
No one has mentioned what I find most interesting about this. Now all 4 "regions" such as they are, have a power team. UWW in the West, Wesley in the East, UMU in the North and UMHB in the South. The North and West also have supplemental teams like Linfield and North Central and whoever wins the MIAC, an area where the South and East will still have some catching up. However, I could see the top 4 being more regional again after this shuffling. Of course, since the tourney has gone less regional for the top seeds its been more fair in my opinion, but this allows for the possibility of Regional 1 seeds and still maintaining that "fairness".
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on March 03, 2014, 03:18:31 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 03, 2014, 01:26:48 PM
No one has mentioned what I find most interesting about this. Now all 4 "regions" such as they are, have a power team. UWW in the West, Wesley in the East, UMU in the North and UMHB in the South. The North and West also have supplemental teams like Linfield and North Central and whoever wins the MIAC, an area where the South and East will still have some catching up. However, I could see the top 4 being more regional again after this shuffling. Of course, since the tourney has gone less regional for the top seeds its been more fair in my opinion, but this allows for the possibility of Regional 1 seeds and still maintaining that "fairness".

I think historically this supplemental thing would be correct, but as the playoffs has become less regional, especially in the second round. I would say the East has some very good teams that can hold their own on any given Saturday (i.e. St. John Fisher, Salisbury), even the south last year showed me that you can never count a team out (Johns Hopkins and Huntingdon).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on March 03, 2014, 03:26:40 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on March 03, 2014, 03:18:31 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 03, 2014, 01:26:48 PM
No one has mentioned what I find most interesting about this. Now all 4 "regions" such as they are, have a power team. UWW in the West, Wesley in the East, UMU in the North and UMHB in the South. The North and West also have supplemental teams like Linfield and North Central and whoever wins the MIAC, an area where the South and East will still have some catching up. However, I could see the top 4 being more regional again after this shuffling. Of course, since the tourney has gone less regional for the top seeds its been more fair in my opinion, but this allows for the possibility of Regional 1 seeds and still maintaining that "fairness".

I think historically this supplemental thing would be correct, but as the playoffs has become less regional, especially in the second round. I would say the East has some very good teams that can hold their own on any given Saturday (i.e. St. John Fisher, Salisbury), even the south last year showed me that you can never count a team out (Johns Hopkins and Huntingdon).

That's certainly true. SJF has had two really good playoff runs, Salisbury had one, JHU had one, but it was a while ago. Huntingdon wasn't in the playoffs last year. But by supplemental I mean teams with the talent level to sniff a title. I don't think there is another team in the South or East that has that ability right now, whereas there are teams out West and North that are one or two plays or players away.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on March 03, 2014, 03:36:40 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 03, 2014, 03:26:40 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on March 03, 2014, 03:18:31 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 03, 2014, 01:26:48 PM
No one has mentioned what I find most interesting about this. Now all 4 "regions" such as they are, have a power team. UWW in the West, Wesley in the East, UMU in the North and UMHB in the South. The North and West also have supplemental teams like Linfield and North Central and whoever wins the MIAC, an area where the South and East will still have some catching up. However, I could see the top 4 being more regional again after this shuffling. Of course, since the tourney has gone less regional for the top seeds its been more fair in my opinion, but this allows for the possibility of Regional 1 seeds and still maintaining that "fairness".

I think historically this supplemental thing would be correct, but as the playoffs has become less regional, especially in the second round. I would say the East has some very good teams that can hold their own on any given Saturday (i.e. St. John Fisher, Salisbury), even the south last year showed me that you can never count a team out (Johns Hopkins and Huntingdon).

That's certainly true. SJF has had two really good playoff runs, Salisbury had one, JHU had one, but it was a while ago. Huntingdon wasn't in the playoffs last year. But by supplemental I mean teams with the talent level to sniff a title. I don't think there is another team in the South or East that has that ability right now, whereas there are teams out West and North that are one or two plays or players away.

My mistake ;), I was thinking of Hampden-Sydney last year in their thriller against Linfield.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on March 03, 2014, 05:11:29 PM
Now that is an EPIC announcement!  Formulating one of the nation's strongest conferences (IMHO) is no mean task, no doubt.  I am thrilled to finally see Wesley land a real home for once.  I do have an issue with the roster cap as it could leave talent slipping through the cracks.  Yeah, the 25 player JV roster will help, but it still is a big hit considering that 185+ players show for summer practice.  Only time will tell if it has a significant affect on the team in the long run.

It will be AWESOME to see the shorter trips for the team.  Man, those bus rides to South Carolina, Ohio, Maine, Georgia, and Alabama (from Atlanta) were tough to say the least.  This will definitely help Wesley's travel budget in a BIG way.  I will miss the myriad of teams Wesley played throughout the years from the NIAA to DI-AA, though.  Seeing how well Wesley matched up to each division was a unique experience.  I remember oogling DII North Greenville's stadium (beautiful!) and walking away from the game really impressed with how well Wesley did against a far financially superior team.   That was fun!!   Another memorable game was at Husson.  Wesley trounced that team (while trying not to in the process) and yet their attitude throughout was incredible.  Not once did their morale break and the teammates were clapping each other off the field right up to the end of the game.  That was incredibly touching.  And then there was the difficult game at Walsh where despite adversity at its toughest, the team came together to play a splendid game in the Hall of Fame stadium. Of course taking out young DI-AA UNC Charlotte and Charleston Southern teams certainly added to the lore.

Now to see how Wesley deals with playing familiar teams each and every year.  No doubt, it will be a tough trip.  If the Salisbury games are any clue (along with the infamous Montclair State, Kean and Rowan games) Wesley will have to earn every victory.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on March 04, 2014, 10:32:43 PM
Like the rest of you, I'm thrilled to see us in a conference again - especially such a quality one.  However, I am a bit bummed to only get one non-conference game per year.  While I know it's been tough to finance all the road trips and dig up teams to play, it's also been pretty awesome to visit so many different places.   Have to believe those were good experiences for the players, even as exhausting as they must sometimes have been.  I know they were great fun for me and we got to see places we'd otherwise never have gone.  But all things must change, and it sounds like this is great for Wesley in the long term.  Not to mention I'm sure players' families will appreciate having games closer to home. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on March 09, 2014, 12:06:30 PM
Did some digging.... UMHB and Birmingham-Southern do not have Wesley scheduled for this season. Only game I can find Wesley has for sure is UNC-Charlotte on November 15.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on April 03, 2014, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on March 09, 2014, 12:06:30 PM
Did some digging.... UMHB and Birmingham-Southern do not have Wesley scheduled for this season. Only game I can find Wesley has for sure is UNC-Charlotte on November 15.

Thomas More at Wesley - Sept 6th .. Probably one year deal.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 04, 2014, 11:41:02 AM
I'm sure it is.  That should be a first meeting for both teams, I think.  Should be an interesting game!  Thanks for the heads-up!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 04, 2014, 11:45:28 AM
9/6    vs. Thomas More •    TBA   
9/13    at Salisbury •    6:00 PM   
9/20    vs. Rowan •    1:00 PM   
9/27    vs. Southern Virginia    1:00 PM   
10/4    vs. Louisiana College •    1:00 PM   
10/11    at Concordia-Selma    1:00 PM   
10/18    at Menlo    4:00 PM   
11/1    vs. College of Faith    12:00 PM   
11/15    at Charlotte    12:00 PM   


Man, where does Coach Drass get these match-ups?  This final independent season will see three interesting new teams and some more long road trips!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on April 04, 2014, 12:23:45 PM
Quote from: Teamski on April 04, 2014, 11:45:28 AM
9/6    vs. Thomas More •    TBA   
9/13    at Salisbury •    6:00 PM   
9/20    vs. Rowan •    1:00 PM   
9/27    vs. Southern Virginia    1:00 PM   
10/4    vs. Louisiana College •    1:00 PM   
10/11    at Concordia-Selma    1:00 PM   
10/18    at Menlo    4:00 PM   
11/1    vs. College of Faith    12:00 PM   
11/15    at Charlotte    12:00 PM   


Man, where does Coach Drass get these match-ups?  This final independent season will see three interesting new teams and some more long road trips!

-Ski

From anyone that has an opening in their schedule that is not scared to play a consistent Top 10. In all honesty, with Wesley being independent, they have more to lose than that of teams that play in conferences.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on April 04, 2014, 12:33:04 PM
I bet Coach Drass can't wait to be in the NJAC... I wonder how much better he can be at recruiting if he doesn't have to spend most of the offseason drudging up these matchups?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wally_wabash on April 04, 2014, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on April 04, 2014, 12:23:45 PM
Quote from: Teamski on April 04, 2014, 11:45:28 AM
9/6    vs. Thomas More •    TBA   
9/13    at Salisbury •    6:00 PM   
9/20    vs. Rowan •    1:00 PM   
9/27    vs. Southern Virginia    1:00 PM   
10/4    vs. Louisiana College •    1:00 PM   
10/11    at Concordia-Selma    1:00 PM   
10/18    at Menlo    4:00 PM   
11/1    vs. College of Faith    12:00 PM   
11/15    at Charlotte    12:00 PM   


Man, where does Coach Drass get these match-ups?  This final independent season will see three interesting new teams and some more long road trips!

-Ski

From anyone that has an opening in their schedule that is not scared to play a consistent Top 10. In all honesty, with Wesley being independent, they have more to lose than that of teams that play in conferences.


This...
QuoteTeam   D3record D3win % OWP (rank)  OOWP NCAA
1 Wesley  4-2          .667      .7500 (1)    .5167  0.672 
...would seem to indicate otherwise.  You can't create that line if you play in a Pool A-qualifying conference.  And what that line buys you is the cushion to lose more than once and still pretty easily qualify for the tournament.  The margin for error for teams playing in conferences is miniscule.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on April 04, 2014, 04:48:47 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on April 04, 2014, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on April 04, 2014, 12:23:45 PM
Quote from: Teamski on April 04, 2014, 11:45:28 AM
9/6    vs. Thomas More •    TBA   
9/13    at Salisbury •    6:00 PM   
9/20    vs. Rowan •    1:00 PM   
9/27    vs. Southern Virginia    1:00 PM   
10/4    vs. Louisiana College •    1:00 PM   
10/11    at Concordia-Selma    1:00 PM   
10/18    at Menlo    4:00 PM   
11/1    vs. College of Faith    12:00 PM   
11/15    at Charlotte    12:00 PM   


Man, where does Coach Drass get these match-ups?  This final independent season will see three interesting new teams and some more long road trips!

-Ski

From anyone that has an opening in their schedule that is not scared to play a consistent Top 10. In all honesty, with Wesley being independent, they have more to lose than that of teams that play in conferences.


This...
QuoteTeam   D3record D3win % OWP (rank)  OOWP NCAA
1 Wesley  4-2          .667      .7500 (1)    .5167  0.672 
...would seem to indicate otherwise.  You can't create that line if you play in a Pool A-qualifying conference.  And what that line buys you is the cushion to lose more than once and still pretty easily qualify for the tournament.  The margin for error for teams playing in conferences is miniscule.

If Wesley had lost one more D3 game, they would have been out of the playoffs. I am basically saying that teams within conferences can lose over .500 of their games and still make the playoffs, because they have a change to win the conference. There is no conference to win for Wesley at the moment. However, that will be all over next year. Good to see them in a conference with an automatic bid.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on April 04, 2014, 07:25:43 PM
Quote from: Teamski on April 04, 2014, 11:41:02 AM
I'm sure it is.  That should be a first meeting for both teams, I think.  Should be an interesting game!  Thanks for the heads-up!

-Ski

Will be a big test for Thomas More - the nation's leading rusher is back for the Saints and he'll face that very stingy Wesley defense. 

The two schools played at UC's Nippert Stadium in 1993 and at Wesley in 1994.  Thomas More leads the series 2-0.  Obviously Wesley is on another level now - but I can't bring myself to burst the bubble of my older teammates who are proud to be 2-0 against Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on April 04, 2014, 07:34:31 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 04, 2014, 12:33:04 PM
I bet Coach Drass can't wait to be in the NJAC... I wonder how much better he can be at recruiting if he doesn't have to spend most of the offseason drudging up these matchups?

Playing a truly National Schedule could be a great tool for recruiting.  I know it helped to get most of my teammates to come to the school - and we didn't play THAT far away.  We played in NY, WI, TN, PA, TX, and IL while I was there.  We also got a group of alums to travel to the Los Angeles area in 2002 for a road game - but my lips are sealed about all the shenanigans on that trip (it fell on Halloween weekend) :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 04, 2014, 07:58:59 PM
Saintsfan

Wesley has played in that many states in one year  LOL.  I think Wesley should be returning 17 or 18 starters this year  depending on attrition.


Only four D 3 teams on the schedule.. Geesh gonna be another one of those years

At least next year they will have 9 d3 games. I think LC stays on the schedule. Looks like Widener didn't want a home and home

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on April 04, 2014, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 04, 2014, 07:58:59 PM
Saintsfan

Wesley has played in that many states in one year  LOL.  I think Wesley should be returning 17 or 18 starters this year  depending on attrition.


Only four D 3 teams on the schedule.. Geesh gonna be another one of those years

At least next year they will have 9 d3 games. I think LC stays on the schedule. Looks like Widener didn't want a home and home

I think both teams are in the same boat as far as returners.  The Saints graduated two OL, a LB and a safety but get back a DB/LB who missed all of 2013 due to injury.  Yeah - but you never know about attrition.  We've heard rumors of transfers coming in but you can't count on those, even if they show up at camp.  I actually don't like taking D1 guys - because.  team chemistry.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 05, 2014, 12:46:22 PM
I really think Wesley will have a true shot at the championship game from what I saw this last year.  Callahan was on fire against Mount Union and he pulled out the impossible win at Johns Hopkins.  Only time will tell, but I have a feeling.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 06, 2014, 01:59:11 AM
Quote from: Teamski on April 05, 2014, 12:46:22 PM
I really think Wesley will have a true shot at the championship game from what I saw this last year.  Callahan was on fire against Mount Union and he pulled out the impossible win at Johns Hopkins.  Only time will tell, but I have a feeling.....

-Ski

Then again, Wesley is only playing 5 DIII teams plus teams from the FCS, USCAA, NAIA and the ASCAA.  I hope they can find a 10th game as well.....  :/  It will be another one of those apples and oranges seasons.......

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on April 06, 2014, 06:02:01 PM
Quote from: Teamski on April 06, 2014, 01:59:11 AM
Quote from: Teamski on April 05, 2014, 12:46:22 PM
I really think Wesley will have a true shot at the championship game from what I saw this last year.  Callahan was on fire against Mount Union and he pulled out the impossible win at Johns Hopkins.  Only time will tell, but I have a feeling.....

-Ski

Then again, Wesley is only playing 5 DIII teams plus teams from the FCS, USCAA, NAIA and the ASCAA.  I hope they can find a 10th game as well.....  :/  It will be another one of those apples and oranges seasons.......

-Ski

I have no doubt they'll both make and play well in the tourney..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on April 06, 2014, 09:02:08 PM
at least you dont have the Dragons on the schedule lol.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 08, 2014, 01:18:54 AM
Quote from: nnasid on April 06, 2014, 09:02:08 PM
at least you dont have the Dragons on the schedule lol.

Well, Wesley will never meet a larger offensive line, that is for sure!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on April 14, 2014, 06:28:16 PM
Ski, only 4 D3 games.  ughhh.  annoying that no one will play them home and home.  Nice to see Rowan and La Coll this year.  Have to win all 4 to get in in my opinion.  Will be nice to be in the njac in 2015.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on April 14, 2014, 11:17:00 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on April 14, 2014, 06:28:16 PM
Ski, only 4 D3 games.  ughhh.  annoying that no one will play them home and home.  Nice to see Rowan and La Coll this year.  Have to win all 4 to get in in my opinion.  Will be nice to be in the njac in 2015.

I believe the first 5 games to be against DIII teams.

-SKi
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on April 14, 2014, 11:23:14 PM
Depends how you count southern Virginia. Not sure of there status for 14/15 year
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on April 14, 2014, 11:31:22 PM
For what its worth - I believe that SVU games will be countable in the Capital for 14-15 season so I would tend to believe that they'd be counted as a D3 game for Wesley next year.
Could be wrong, but thought I saw that on someones schedule release (CNU soccer I believe??)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 15, 2014, 04:32:37 PM
Southern Virginia will be a second-year provisional member of Division III for next year. I believe they are countable for the minimum number of contests against D-III teams (but Wesley will get a waiver for that). Don't believe they count in the primary selection criteria. Tough year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on April 16, 2014, 12:26:37 PM
Kind of sad Wesley won't be returning to Huntingdon or B-SC this year. I've enjoyed seeing one of the top teams play the last couple years within easy driving distance. My options for this year are much more limited with those schools.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on May 27, 2014, 06:45:22 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on April 14, 2014, 06:28:16 PM
Ski, only 4 D3 games.  ughhh.  annoying that no one will play them home and home.  Nice to see Rowan and La Coll this year.  Have to win all 4 to get in in my opinion.  Will be nice to be in the njac in 2015.

Wesleydad - I wouldn't say NOBODY.. Thomas More is headed down to Dover for a one and done.  We'd love to host Wesley at home in 2015.  Alas, the schedule will be harder to be on since you got into the conference.  I feel your frustration, though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on May 29, 2014, 09:49:49 AM
so much for no Dragons on the schedule
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on June 04, 2014, 01:43:29 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on April 14, 2014, 06:28:16 PM
Ski, only 4 D3 games.  ughhh.  annoying that no one will play them home and home.  Nice to see Rowan and La Coll this year.  Have to win all 4 to get in in my opinion.  Will be nice to be in the njac in 2015.

I believe they can lose (I doubt they do) one of those games, while winning the remaining games, if the other Division III teams perform adequately against their opponents. I think Thomas Moore, Rowan, Salisbury, and Louisiana College each have a good chance of finishing with a .750 average this upcoming season. I am sure Coach Drass will have his guys ready for each contest this season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on June 05, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 16, 2014, 12:26:37 PM
Kind of sad Wesley won't be returning to Huntingdon or B-SC this year. I've en joyed seeing one of the top teams play the last couple years within easy driving distance. My options for this year are much more limited with those schools.

They will be playing at Concordia-Selma on October 11. You could catch them then.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on June 05, 2014, 01:58:37 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on June 05, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 16, 2014, 12:26:37 PM
Kind of sad Wesley won't be returning to Huntingdon or B-SC this year. I've en joyed seeing one of the top teams play the last couple years within easy driving distance. My options for this year are much more limited with those schools.

They will be playing at Concordia-Selma on October 11. You could catch them then.

I hadn't thought about that. Always a possibility. In my 5+ years living in AL I've never been to Selma. Might be interesting to go visit. Thanks!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on June 05, 2014, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 05, 2014, 01:58:37 PM
In my 5+ years living in AL I've never been to Selma.
You haven't missed anything.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on June 05, 2014, 07:20:26 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 05, 2014, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 05, 2014, 01:58:37 PM
In my 5+ years living in AL I've never been to Selma.
You haven't missed anything.

Probably right. But it is historic so while living down here I should probably go see it. There were areas of FL I should have seen when I lived there and I regret not going. So I hope I've learned that lesson
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on June 07, 2014, 01:24:43 AM
Uphill from the start just looking at the schedule. Very very little room for error. Hopefully we will see a stronger Wesley team this season. They have some ground to make up to the likes of UWW and UMHB.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on July 22, 2014, 04:08:56 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on June 07, 2014, 01:24:43 AM
Uphill from the start just looking at the schedule. Very very little room for error. Hopefully we will see a stronger Wesley team this season. They have some ground to make up to the likes of UWW and UMHB.

No doubt.  Once again Wesley goes into the season ranked #5 with some serious must-win games in the mix.  More so this year than any other.  Then again, we say this every year too.  ;)  Really looking forward to Callahan on the field once again.  He really impressed the hell out of me this last year.  His Hail Mary at Johns Hopkins will stick with me for a very long time.  I hadn't gone nuts like that since the fabled Linfield game (which I can never see being matched for excitement in my lifetime). 

It will be nice to see a brace of home games for once! 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on July 27, 2014, 03:49:54 AM
I would think we would have some sort of idea on Wesley's playoff chances after the 5th week of the season seeing they don't play a Division III opponent after that  ;D.

Along with Callahan, I am excited to see Koudossou healthy for his senior campaign. I know he was playing hurt during the middle of the season last year. Hopefully this year he can stay healthy as the leader of the Wesley receiving corps.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 01, 2014, 02:58:22 PM
Congrads to Sosthene Kapepula and Devin Filliben of Wesley for being selected 1st and 2nd Team respectively in the D3F 2014 Preseason All-American honors.  Well done gentlemen!!   :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 05, 2014, 11:01:59 AM
Having fun looking through the schedules to plan my season.  First 3 weeks all Wesley games.  After that there are some good games that I get to choose from.  Annual trip to Bridgewater for their homecoming game against Wash and Lee, a team I have never seen.  Getting excited that the season is right around the corner.  Expecting plenty of good things from this years Wesley team.  Hopefully the offense will take the Mount game and build off of it.  They should be tough for anyone to figure out what they are going to do and with any semblance of a running game they could be scary.  The defense will need to tighten up a bit, stay aggressive and avoid the stupid penalties.  Shame that they only have 5 D3 games, but it is what it is.  Last year as an Independent and then on to the NJAC. :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on August 05, 2014, 11:39:45 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 05, 2014, 11:01:59 AM
Having fun looking through the schedules to plan my season.  First 3 weeks all Wesley games.  After that there are some good games that I get to choose from.  Annual trip to Bridgewater for their homecoming game against Wash and Lee, a team I have never seen.  Getting excited that the season is right around the corner.  Expecting plenty of good things from this years Wesley team.  Hopefully the offense will take the Mount game and build off of it.  They should be tough for anyone to figure out what they are going to do and with any semblance of a running game they could be scary.  The defense will need to tighten up a bit, stay aggressive and avoid the stupid penalties.  Shame that they only have 5 D3 games, but it is what it is.  Last year as an Independent and then on to the NJAC. :D

Hey - do the Stone Station boys still get together in the same place?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 05, 2014, 11:40:03 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 05, 2014, 11:01:59 AM
   Expecting plenty of good things from this years Wesley team.  Hopefully the offense will take the Mount game and build off of it.  They should be tough for anyone to figure out what they are going to do and with any semblance of a running game they could be scary.  The defense will need to tighten up a bit, stay aggressive and avoid the stupid penalties.   

It's like a skipping record, isn't it?  Last season, I think Wesley did a great job overall of mitigating a lot of the silly mistakes we have seen through the years.  I hope to see that continue.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on August 05, 2014, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on August 05, 2014, 11:01:59 AM
Annual trip to Bridgewater for their homecoming game against Wash and Lee, a team I have never seen. 

W&L always struggles at Bridgewater. I don't expect a whole lot from either team this year, so you might see a competitive game even if it isn't a pair of titans at work. I'm getting to my traditional W&L at Sewanee game in week 2, so hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised by my Generals.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on August 19, 2014, 03:53:04 PM
Looking at Thomas More's stats from last year, looks like the depend heavily on RB Dominique Hayden (averaging 200 yds/gm  :o). A more than formidable test for Wesley's (usually solid) run D. If this Wesley defense can stay healthy, they will be scary good. Good group if LBs returning, D-line looks solid and hopefully healthy, Leon Jones is on the roster after missing last season with an injury.

With the exception of Howe, we return virtually everyone on offense. The team will have to bring their "A" game from the get go this year. VERY little room for mistakes.

Hopefully I can make the trek September 6. Hope to see everyone there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 19, 2014, 04:17:46 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on August 19, 2014, 03:53:04 PM
Looking at Thomas More's stats from last year, looks like the depend heavily on RB Dominique Hayden (averaging 200 yds/gm  :o). A more than formidable test for Wesley's (usually solid) run D. If this Wesley defense can stay healthy, they will be scary good. Good group if LBs returning, D-line looks solid and hopefully healthy, Leon Jones is on the roster after missing last season with an injury.

With the exception of Howe, we return virtually everyone on offense. The team will have to bring their "A" game from the get go this year. VERY little room for mistakes.

Hopefully I can make the trek September 6. Hope to see everyone there.

Yeah, I hope to see you there!  On camera again this year for the home games.   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on August 20, 2014, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on August 19, 2014, 03:53:04 PM
Looking at Thomas More's stats from last year, looks like the depend heavily on RB Dominique Hayden (averaging 200 yds/gm  :o). A more than formidable test for Wesley's (usually solid) run D. If this Wesley defense can stay healthy, they will be scary good. Good group if LBs returning, D-line looks solid and hopefully healthy, Leon Jones is on the roster after missing last season with an injury.

With the exception of Howe, we return virtually everyone on offense. The team will have to bring their "A" game from the get go this year. VERY little room for mistakes.

Hopefully I can make the trek September 6. Hope to see everyone there.

The QB and WR corps should also be making huge strides.  This will be 18's third year as the starter.  Not necessarily for Wesley, but the other teams on the schedule who will have to commit more resources to stopping the TMC run game -- it will hopefully be very dangerous for them to do so.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on August 30, 2014, 12:28:08 PM
One more week, boys and girls!!   A few of the things I can't wait for - to enjoy a beautiful (soon to be) fall day out at the field, to settle into our section and catch up with folks we haven't seen since last season while getting to know the newbies, to be entertained by Crazy Uncle Frank, hear the fire siren go off in the middle of a game (if we're lucky), seeing players play for the love of the game, waiting for Drass's first tirade of the year (and feeling a bit sorry for whichever poor guy is on the other end of it), listening to our friends at WDEL, and enjoying the eternal hope and optimism of wondering if this might just be our year.

Regardless of who we cheer for, let's hope for a season of good, competitive football with no serious injuries and appreciate how lucky we are to get to enjoy it.

Now enough of the mushy stuff, and go get 'em Wesley!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on August 30, 2014, 12:58:58 PM
I watched the Wesley vs. Albright scrimmage last night.  There is a lot of work to do, but it was a good run-up to next week's game.  I have never seen football players scramble as fast as I did last night when a pair of bats landed among the knelt Wesley players during the post-game talk on the field.  You would have thought that somebody unleashed a pair of rabid pit bulls or something.  It was hilarious.  Anyways, it was great to see Jason Bowen and Sean Green in attendance.  I was also thrilled to see the stands quite full as well.  It is neat to see the interest in the team this early on.  Now to see how the team improves before facing another ranked team in Thomas More next week.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on August 31, 2014, 08:02:23 PM
ONE week away from the opener against Thomas More. A few things I noted from reading Kickoff.
1) Wesley returns nearly everyone on both sides of the ball. The only real losses are Jeremiah Howe, and the two safeties. This group will go as far as the o-line takes them.
2) Wesley's run game should be much better compared to last season. Jamar Baynard really stepped up in the final games of the season, and as long as Brandon Wright can stay healthy, he can be really solid as well.
3) A TON of speed at receiver. Koudossou, Bryce Shade, Matt Bundy and Robert Wiggs (both returning from injury). This group will be fun to watch.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on August 31, 2014, 10:30:14 PM
If you have not gotten Kick off yet and you want to get a feel for all things D3 then you should.  Still have plenty to read.  Looking forward to taking the rest of the week to do so.  Only 6 more days.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: beenhit2hard on September 03, 2014, 12:09:23 PM
We can't make any games this week, :'( I am still coaching and we have our only Saturday game coming up. But after that either Wesley or The gulls every saturday ;D.Looking forward to some footballllllll !!!! :D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 03, 2014, 07:06:02 PM
Good first week test.  So ready to see how this years Wesley team comes out of the gate.  They have been known to start slow in many a season, they can not afford a loss with only 5 D3 games.  I hope that the offense stays as wide open as it was in the Mount game last year.  That was crazy and they are that good.  Speed all over.  The defense should be very good with Kap being scary good.  Stop the More running game and this could end up one sided.  As usual penalties and turnovers could be the killer.  Expecting a win and glad to see a team I have not seen yet.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 05, 2014, 04:47:18 PM
Really looking forward to seeing Wesley on the field tomorrow.  I am not looking forward to the possible thunderstorms following Thomas More into town.... :P  Cameras don't like water.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on September 05, 2014, 05:07:45 PM
I got a seat in the press box again  ;D 12 years running!! But, please don't rain anyways. Keith, don't bang on the glass like Jason Bowen for stats. Just kidding, he stopped doing that years ago.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 05, 2014, 06:01:41 PM
Expecting a great game out of both teams. I expect this game to be won in the trenches if it rains. If not, then the show goes on.

Also, just saw that  Tusculum demolished College of Faith 71-0 and held College of Faith to 100 negative yards, which included a negative 124 yards rushing, both NCAA records.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 06, 2014, 08:33:13 AM
going to be a HOT one today in Dover.  Heat index of 100 or so.  Not great for a first game anyway you look at it.  Figure that the mandatory stoppages for water will be in play today.  Going to need to find a way to stay cool while watching the game, can not imagine how hot the field will be at game time.  Hoping that both teams stay safe and we get a good game in before the storms roll in later in the day.  Glad that it is football season again, Saturdays are booked up until mid December.  Safe travels to all coming to the game today and stay cool.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 06, 2014, 08:40:45 AM
GAMEDAY!!!  GAMEDAY!!!  GAMEDAY!!!  GAMEDAY!!!  GAMEDAY!!!  GAMEDAY!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 06, 2014, 01:44:51 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 06, 2014, 08:33:13 AM
going to be a HOT one today in Dover.  Heat index of 100 or so.  Not great for a first game anyway you look at it.  Figure that the mandatory stoppages for water will be in play today.  Going to need to find a way to stay cool while watching the game, can not imagine how hot the field will be at game time.  Hoping that both teams stay safe and we get a good game in before the storms roll in later in the day.  Glad that it is football season again, Saturdays are booked up until mid December.  Safe travels to all coming to the game today and stay cool.

I want to hear your report after this game, wesleydad.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 06, 2014, 02:20:11 PM
21-7 Wesley at halftime. 

Couldn't make the trip but from the broadcast it sounds like there were plenty of dropped passes, penalties and mental errors on both sides - basically what you'd expect from a season opener.  Here's to an injury free 2nd half. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 06, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Saintsfan, Strong opening drive by Saints. Been basically shut down the rest of the half.  Wesley has been inconsistent on offense but look to be in control. Saints have been able to throw the ball some which bodes well for them as the season goes forward. Solid team overall. Wesley looks strong both sides of ball but will need to improve on special teams. Punter was shady early but switched field a couple of times. Time for second half.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 06, 2014, 02:31:27 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 06, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
Saintsfan, Strong opening drive by Saints. Been basically shut down the rest of the half.  Wesley has been inconsistent on offense but look to be in control. Saints have been able to throw the ball some which bodes well for them as the season goes forward. Solid team overall. Wesley looks strong both sides of ball but will need to improve on special teams. Punter was shady early but switched field a couple of times. Time for second half.

Agree - they need to get Hayden going also through the passing game.  I'm encouraged and this is the opener --  minus anything unforeseen, Thomas More will win the PAC.  TMC gets the ball, obviously this possession is huge. 

PS - PUT SOME SUNBLOCK ON !!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 06, 2014, 04:19:45 PM
For the Wesley fans or "locals" as the TMC radio guys referred to them as seated in front of the booth, Who were voicing their displeasure with Thomas More trying to extend the game in the last minute after the onside kick recovery:: You call timeouts/kill the clock even in the last minute down 15 with a chance to score because as coaches you are teaching a young team to compete.  EVERY snap at Wesley today was a valuable learning experience for the Saints program.  This isn't. "Trying to make the scoreboard better".

Now, onto things and people who actually matter--  great game by the usual suspects for Wesley.  Very efficient offense led by Callahan and tough defense to hold Hayden to 92 yards and under 4 yards a carry.  Not sure what happened with the ejection of the Wesley LB. 

Lots of good for TMC here despite this being a loss.  Our QB played tough as did the defense and TM found a backup to Hayden.  I think a loss to Wesley better prepares TM for the season than playing Capital in the opener.  There's nothing to hang their head about as Wesley has won 66 of the last 70 games in Dover. 

Best of luck the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 06, 2014, 05:14:31 PM
An ugly opener for sure.  Man, I haven't seen it that chippy out on the field like that in a long time.  It started early; the shoving and trash-talking and sure enough, the flags started flying after a while.

Not the cleanest of starts by Wesley, but hey, we always seem to start slow.  Next week will be another stern test at Salisbury who depends on the run game.  Wesley will need to continue to work on their run defense this week.  That said, their goal-line stand today was awesome!

I am thrilled with the win, though.  Thomas More definitely has some offensive weapons.  Their slant routes were pretty effective today.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 06, 2014, 05:59:04 PM
This was a pretty strong effort for Wesley from the snap of the ball until the whistle.  Too bad some of the defense didn't know how to walk away once the whistle blew.  The captain of your team can not put himself in the position of getting tossed from the game if this is going to be a team that challenges the top of the top.  I don't want to hear any excuses or that Thomas More was doing it too.  The score is 28 - 7 and you are pretty much dominating the game.  There is no reason to chirp, you have proven on the field that you are the better team.  This has to be cleaned up before next week.

The offense looked pretty solid; the o-line seemed to start getting a push as the game went on and the running game was able to get going in the second half.  Callahan kept several plays alive by sliding in the pocket, 2 turned into TDs.  The defense looked lost on the first drive as seems to be the case often, but then dominated the rest of the way.  If you hold the RB who averaged over 200 yards a game to less than 100 and avg of 3 yards a carry you have done a great job.  The middle was open and the Saints exploited it, but could not do it consistently enough to mount any drives.

I have no issue with how the Saints kept playing until the end of the game, that is what you are supposed to do.  I didn't understand the field goal attempt down 21, which was blocked.  They are a solid team and will beat many teams if not all the teams they have left to play.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 06, 2014, 07:12:39 PM
I usually leave the Wesley opening game a bit frustrated, but this year I left pretty darn happy and optimistic.  I thought we played well, especially against a very talented opponent.

Offense - I was very impressed by how smoothly things ran for the first game.  Usually early in the season there are spurts where it seems to take forever to get the calls in, players not sure where to line up, delay of game, etc. but next to none of that this time.  Callahan looked to be firmly in control on the field, and that confidence seemed to spread to the rest of the offense.  I guess it's easier to be confident out of the gate when the horses are back and healthy.  Baynard picked up right where he left off last year, displaying great field vision and ability to hit the hole (or make his own if need be).  Receiving corp will be scary good if everyone stays well.  Wright looked a little timid, wonder if he's fearing another injury or just needs a little time to get back in the swing of things.  Offensive line pretty much held their own, always room for improvement, but looking more comfortable as a group with more experience under their belt.

Defense - Gotta be tougher on the run and the secondary had a few bouts of confusion over coverage, but they seemed to improve as the game went along.  Have to stop being stupid after the whistle.  As wesleydad said, learn how to walk away! Was pretty surprised the staff hadn't laid into them more early in the game to try and nip it in the bud.  Both sides had their fair share of attitude, but enough already.  Both ejected players have to sit out the first half of the Salisbury game, right?  Will be interesting to see how SU works to take advantage.

Special teams - Looks to be another adventure.  Punter had a couple good ones mixed in with the truly horrible.  Will give him the beneift of the doubt this week.  On returns, a couple times it looked like blockers were set up pretty well but the returners couldn't quite get there.  Was a shame to have to burn a time out on an extra point try. 

Feels to me like maybe we're a step ahead than in previous years out of the gate.  I hope the emotions get held in check better against SU, but that's tough since it's always such an intense battle.  Should be another good match up, and I'm looking forward to a good year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 08, 2014, 05:33:32 PM
Big test this week for Wesley.  Salisbury looked pretty good moving the ball on the CNU d and with 2 of your top defensive players out for at least part of the game the coaches and players will have to adjust and make the plays.  Thomas More was able to move the ball more once both players left the game.  The Gulls defense looks average at best and had issues with CNU.  I think Callahan and co will have a big game this weekend.  Having seen Wesley play now for sometime, I am sure the after the whistle crap has been addressed and I can only hope that the players realize that there is more at stake than woofing after a play.  This rivalry game is usually high spirited as it is.  Wesley needs to play a good hard hitting clean game, snap to whistle.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 08, 2014, 07:03:40 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 08, 2014, 05:33:32 PM
Big test this week for Wesley.  Salisbury looked pretty good moving the ball on the CNU d and with 2 of your top defensive players out for at least part of the game the coaches and players will have to adjust and make the plays.  Thomas More was able to move the ball more once both players left the game.  The Gulls defense looks average at best and had issues with CNU.  I think Callahan and co will have a big game this weekend.  Having seen Wesley play now for sometime, I am sure the after the whistle crap has been addressed and I can only hope that the players realize that there is more at stake than woofing after a play.  This rivalry game is usually high spirited as it is.  Wesley needs to play a good hard hitting clean game, snap to whistle.

Yeah, I think Wesley's offense will carry the first half.  CNU's offense was moving the ball quite well during the game so Wesley should be able to score.  That said, with Salisbury being so one-dimensional, the defense should be able to contain it until #1 makes it back to the field.  Regardless, it will be a very interesting game as it always is!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 09, 2014, 12:32:37 AM
I think there's enough depth on Wesley's D that they should relieve some of what is lost during that first half. The question for this game will be if Wesley can avoid those silly penalties, but I think Drass and the other coaches will buckle down on that during this week.

I'll never understand the ejection for targeting. In the instance of the game we just saw, I feel that Hopkins was simply trying to make a play. There was no malicious intent, heck I didn't even think the contact was helmet-to-helmet. They both went up and collided. Unfortunately for the TMC player, his head wasn't in a good position for safety. A fifteen yard penalty is enough for hits like that. No need to penalize a team (and a kid) into next weeks game if there is no malicious intent.
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Post by: D3MAFAN on September 09, 2014, 01:08:46 PM
It is really a gray area when dealing with Malicious Intent, it is solely subjective on the referee part. I do not like the rule, but they penalize players going into next game due to the fact that players may be upset at the end of one game and incur a "malicious penalty" with penalty having no effect on the current outcome. Nevertheless, I still don't like the rule. 
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Post by: wesleydad on September 09, 2014, 05:29:25 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 09, 2014, 12:32:37 AM

I'll never understand the ejection for targeting. In the instance of the game we just saw, I feel that Hopkins was simply trying to make a play. There was no malicious intent, heck I didn't even think the contact was helmet-to-helmet. They both went up and collided. Unfortunately for the TMC player, his head wasn't in a good position for safety. A fifteen yard penalty is enough for hits like that. No need to penalize a team (and a kid) into next weeks game if there is no malicious intent.

Waterboy, I agree.  I was 15 yards away from the play you mention and other than the usual player laying a lick on another player during a game it did not look malicious to me.  Also, the sound of the collision did not have the helmet to helmet sound.  I am pretty sure it was a shoulder pad hit and as you stated the receiver has lowered his head after the catch.  Glad to see the young man get up and walk off.
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Post by: thewaterboy on September 11, 2014, 02:12:14 PM
Anyone know anything about Salisbury's video feed? I will be working during gametime so I cannot view the game from a computer. Will it work on a smartphone? Or will I have to stick with the WDEL feed?
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Post by: D3MAFAN on September 11, 2014, 02:18:46 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 11, 2014, 02:12:14 PM
Anyone know anything about Salisbury's video feed? I will be working during gametime so I cannot view the game from a computer. Will it work on a smartphone? Or will I have to stick with the WDEL feed?

I believe they have video for all their home games. Not sure how it works on a smartphone though.
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Post by: wesleydad on September 12, 2014, 11:47:26 AM
Good news on the defensive side of the ball, according to triple take both Kapepula and Hopkins can start this week.  Hopkins targeting hit was appealed and overturned, rightfully so in my opinion, and Kapepula is not suspended for getting 2 unsportsmanlike penalties in a game.  Good news, but those things have to be cleaned up if you are going to win it all.  Looking forward to a great game this weekend and I sort of like the 6 oclock start.  Hopefully we dont get what happened 2 years ago and have an hour and half lightning delay.  See you there if you are there.
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Post by: D3MAFAN on September 12, 2014, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 12, 2014, 11:47:26 AM
Good news on the defensive side of the ball, according to triple take both Kapepula and Hopkins can start this week.  Hopkins targeting hit was appealed and overturned, rightfully so in my opinion, and Kapepula is not suspended for getting 2 unsportsmanlike penalties in a game.  Good news, but those things have to be cleaned up if you are going to win it all.  Looking forward to a great game this weekend and I sort of like the 6 oclock start.  Hopefully we dont get what happened 2 years ago and have an hour and half lightning delay.  See you there if you are there.

So what is the spread now -18 -11 Wesley?

Edited after taking a look at triple take and what the most recent scores margins.
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Post by: wesleydad on September 12, 2014, 02:32:16 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on September 12, 2014, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 12, 2014, 11:47:26 AM
Good news on the defensive side of the ball, according to triple take both Kapepula and Hopkins can start this week.  Hopkins targeting hit was appealed and overturned, rightfully so in my opinion, and Kapepula is not suspended for getting 2 unsportsmanlike penalties in a game.  Good news, but those things have to be cleaned up if you are going to win it all.  Looking forward to a great game this weekend and I sort of like the 6 oclock start.  Hopefully we dont get what happened 2 years ago and have an hour and half lightning delay.  See you there if you are there.

So what is the spread now -18 -11 Wesley?

With those 2 playing the entire game I would figure it will be much tougher for Salisbury to score more than 14 or so.  CNU scored 30+ on the Gulls and their offense is not what Wesley's is, so I am thinking the -18.  But in all likelihood this will be a close game as it always is.

Edited after taking a look at triple take and what the most recent scores margins.
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 12, 2014, 03:30:25 PM
Wonderful news that both players can still start.  Looking forward to a good one.  Rain would actually feel pretty good after the scorcher last week.
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Post by: Teamski on September 12, 2014, 05:56:29 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on September 12, 2014, 03:30:25 PM
Wonderful news that both players can still start.  Looking forward to a good one.  Rain would actually feel pretty good after the scorcher last week.

Good news indeed!  I kinda hope the rain stays out of the game.  I have cameras to look after!

-Ski
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Post by: beenhit2hard on September 13, 2014, 08:03:50 AM
Seating at Salisbury could be tight today, new bleachers are not ready from what I read in the paper!!!
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Post by: wesleydad on September 13, 2014, 08:23:12 AM
Been, which ones were they replacing?  if the visitor stands then I hope they block off a part of the home stands for the wesley faithful.  looking for a good game tonight.

Ski, I agree, hoping the rain stays away.  last check 40% chance of rain during the game.
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 13, 2014, 05:44:17 PM
NOW its a Wesley game - Uncle Frank's back....
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 13, 2014, 07:16:33 PM
Dominating first half!!

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Post by: Teamski on September 13, 2014, 10:46:35 PM
I finally returned from the game.  Man, that was a comprehensive kicking by Wesley tonight on both sides of the ball!!  They definitely showed why they are 4th ranked.  By the end of the 3rd quarter the back-ups were in the game.   Wesley's no-huddle offense is quicker than any other team I have seen.  It just lights off before anybody is ready for it.  Amazing.  Except for some big plays by Salisbury, the defense was stifling.  The front four were into the backfield and causing all sorts of mayhem.  THAT is the Wesley I know.  Well done gentlemen!  You keep playing like that and we will see you in the finals! 

-Ski

p.s.  That Salisbury kicker is a machine! He was booming the ball big time.
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Post by: wesleydad on September 13, 2014, 11:26:36 PM
Totally dominated tonight.  Great game plan on both sides of the ball.  Only negative is the kicking game, and in a close game you can't miss 2 extra points.  The defense is the best I have seen at Wesley since I have been watching them play.  The offense may be the best one also.  After watching the first 2 games of the year this is a scary team.  The defense holds the leading rusher from last year to under 100 yards and then holds Salisbury to 3 points.  The offense will likely move the ball and score on anyone.  A noticeable difference in the attitude of the players, no senseless histrionics after plays.  Next week brings another tough opponent in Rowan, a team that I am sure Wesley is looking to enact some revenge on for last year.
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 14, 2014, 12:21:31 AM
Kind of funny - the only thing Salisbury did at all well was special teams (as Ski said, kicker was pretty darn good), and that was the only part of our game not running on all cylinders. The 2nd missed extra point was by a true freshman who later kicked the last field goal, so I'll give him benefit of the doubt on the miss (just this once!). Good opportunity for backups to get good playing time, can never be too prepared for when the injury bug shows up (knock on wood it stays away this year for a change).

Can't wait to see what happens next week!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 16, 2014, 02:04:37 PM
Rowan this week. It will be interesting to see the mindset of both teams after what happened last year. From what I have seen (boxscores) their QB hasn't been sharp at all. Throwing 6 picks against Widener and going 12-23 last week. If they lean too much on Marcelin, it will not turn out well. This is another "statement" game for Wesley after losing last season in Rowan, being one of 3 remaining D3 games and serves as a primer for their move to the NJAC next season.


Will be making yet another trip out there! See you there if you will be there as well!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 16, 2014, 04:07:48 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 16, 2014, 02:04:37 PM
Rowan this week. It will be interesting to see the mindset of both teams after what happened last year. From what I have seen (boxscores) their QB hasn't been sharp at all. Throwing 6 picks against Widener and going 12-23 last week. If they lean too much on Marcelin, it will not turn out well. This is another "statement" game for Wesley after losing last season in Rowan, being one of 3 remaining D3 games and serves as a primer for their move to the NJAC next season.


Will be making yet another trip out there! See you there if you will be there as well!

We'll see you there.  I really don't have any doubts about the results this week.  Wesley is playing solid this year.   If they play like they have been so far, this should be an open and shut case.

-Ski
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Post by: D3MAFAN on September 16, 2014, 04:28:47 PM
If Wesley is as good as last week portrayed, I think Wesley can win this game big and make another statement regarding being one of the "Elite" teams that has a chance to dethrone the Big "2" for a chance to win the Stagg. I have watch Rowan the past couple weeks and believe that Wesley could somewhat replicate what they did this past weekend because Rowan will have to run the ball to pass, however passing for Rowan as mentioned above is not to shabby right now. Nevertheless, it was something that was said in the prior year. If Rowan plays mistake free and limit the big plays, the game may be similar to Wesley game against Thomas More.
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Post by: Swish3 on September 16, 2014, 04:41:09 PM
After seeing the Wesley/Salisbury score, something tells me the Salisbury quarterback wasn't doing his Johnny Manziel impression (whatever he does w/his fingers) against Wesley like he was against CNU.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 17, 2014, 08:34:40 PM
Mid week and I am really looking forward to Saturday's game.  If the defense continues to play at the level they are playing at Rowan will struggle to score more than 14.  I do not see them being able to hold Wesley to under 28 so I think this will be like the first 2 games, likely closer to game 1.  Wesley will be in control most of the game and if Rowan's QB continues to struggle it could get ugly like the Salisbury game.  I think the team will be looking to exact a little revenge after last year's poor performance.
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Post by: wesleydad on September 20, 2014, 07:48:22 AM
Great weather for a football game.  Looking forward to seeing if the Wesley D continues to dominate and the offense continues to put points up with relative ease.  Rowan is one of the favorites to win the NJAC so they should be a good barometer as to how good this Wesley team is.  Safe travels to anyone heading to Dover today.
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Post by: Teamski on September 20, 2014, 08:30:47 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 20, 2014, 07:48:22 AM
Great weather for a football game.  Looking forward to seeing if the Wesley D continues to dominate and the offense continues to put points up with relative ease.  Rowan is one of the favorites to win the NJAC so they should be a good barometer as to how good this Wesley team is.  Safe travels to anyone heading to Dover today.

No doubt.  See you at the game!

-Ski
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 20, 2014, 02:22:53 PM
Can we PLEASE have some extra special teams practice???? 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 20, 2014, 04:41:43 PM
That and the and the load of penalties Wesley accumulated marred an otherwise stellar performance.  It would have been a bigger score on the board for sure.  Wesley is looking pretty darn good through it all.  I was really impressed with Wesley's ability to convert stupid long 1st down conversions!

-Ski
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Post by: Teamski on September 20, 2014, 04:44:18 PM
.....and don't forget that Wesley's defense held Rowan to a whopping 106 yards of offense!

-SKi
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Post by: wesleydad on September 20, 2014, 05:43:55 PM
D dominated again.  Rowan got their first first down halfway through the third quarter.  Too many penalties and the missed extra points are out of control.  The offensive game plan was interesting, rather conservative with plenty of running plays.  Loved the sprint sweep pass play, that will show up again down the road and likely work against anyone.  If the D continues to play at this level this team will be tough to beat deep into the season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 20, 2014, 08:05:01 PM
It blows me away that this was the first win by Wesley over Rowan.  Up to now, they were like 0-8.  My, how times have changed.

-Ski
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Post by: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2014, 08:18:00 PM
Well, I'm sure the fact that they didn't play each other for 13 years had something to do with it. And I'm guessing considering that Wesley has gone all over the country for games in the interim, that it's probably not because Wesley didn't want to play Rowan.
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Post by: wesleydad on September 20, 2014, 08:38:31 PM
Didn't Rowan beat Wesley 24-17 last year?
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Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 20, 2014, 09:33:09 PM
You remember correctly wesleydad.  That was another game Wesley should have won...

Callahan really impressed me (again) today.  His ability to scramble around to buy time while continuing to look down field, then get off a good pass is a thing of beauty.  And how much fun is it to watch Baynard pick through the defense? If he can't run around them, he'll just run 'em over.  Hopefully today's rash of stupid penalties will not be repeated in the future.

It's beyond me how we can make 19 and 40 yd field goals yet every extra point attempt is an adventure.... Already looking foward to next week.
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Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 20, 2014, 10:33:55 PM
 The kickers just need confidence. And right now it's snow balling for them. Kicking in college is a whole different animal than kicking off a tee in High school. I am sure they are working on it every day with the coaches. Coach Delgado knows his stuff.   The kickoffs are not going to get much better because thats a leg strength problem.  My boys used to kick for endless hours over the summer to get their muscle memory to kick in.   Hopefully the kids will get it going soon.
 
Callahan  had a heck of a day. He really has a handle on what his receivers are doing and he sees them clearing the d backs so weell. Great Job by the D today .They look as good as any I have seen at Wesley!!
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Post by: thewaterboy on September 23, 2014, 02:07:56 PM
Everything went well again for Wesley. With the exception of penalties you cannot really complain. Callahan has made some major strides from last season. The offense has a ton of weapons and the defense was shut down as usual. It was pretty impressive to see them not allow a first down until the 3rd quarter.

Special teams looked good too. Despite the low, line-drive kickoffs the coverage was good. Got some solid returns from Hopkins, and the punts aren't too shabby. Just need someone to step up at the kicker position, which will happen at some point I'm sure.
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Post by: dedragon on September 23, 2014, 03:18:42 PM
Have really been enjoying watch Callahan this season from the box. Just some stats that I was looking at today:

Callahan - 82 of 109 for 75.2%, 983 yards with 9 TD's & 0 INT's (in 3 games) - QB Eff Rating = 178.23
Burke - 40 of 55 for 72.7%, 683 yards with 7 TD's & 0 INT's (in 2 games) - QB Eff Rating = 219.04
Behrendt - 43 of 59 for 72.9%, 543 yards with 7 TD's & 0 INT's (in 3 games) - QB Eff Rating = 189.3

These will be better comparable when they have the same number of games, but goodness, these guys are playing some good football.

NCAA Record (Min. 25 atts. per game) Bill Borchert, UMU 1997: 190 of 272 for 69.8%, 2,933 yards with 47 TD's & 1 INT - QB Eff Rating = 216.7  :o

It didn't say how many games, but considering the time period I'm hoping a full 15 games, if not, good gracious on the TD's.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 23, 2014, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 23, 2014, 02:07:56 PM
Everything went well again for Wesley. With the exception of penalties you cannot really complain. Callahan has made some major strides from last season. The offense has a ton of weapons and the defense was shut down as usual. It was pretty impressive to see them not allow a first down until the 3rd quarter.

Special teams looked good too. Despite the low, line-drive kickoffs the coverage was good. Got some solid returns from Hopkins, and the punts aren't too shabby. Just need someone to step up at the kicker position, which will happen at some point I'm sure.
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Hopefully before the third round of the playoffs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2014, 09:09:01 AM
Quote from: dedragon on September 23, 2014, 03:18:42 PM
Have really been enjoying watch Callahan this season from the box. Just some stats that I was looking at today:

Callahan - 82 of 109 for 75.2%, 983 yards with 9 TD's & 0 INT's (in 3 games) - QB Eff Rating = 178.23
Burke - 40 of 55 for 72.7%, 683 yards with 7 TD's & 0 INT's (in 2 games) - QB Eff Rating = 219.04
Behrendt - 43 of 59 for 72.9%, 543 yards with 7 TD's & 0 INT's (in 3 games) - QB Eff Rating = 189.3

These will be better comparable when they have the same number of games, but goodness, these guys are playing some good football.

NCAA Record (Min. 25 atts. per game) Bill Borchert, UMU 1997: 190 of 272 for 69.8%, 2,933 yards with 47 TD's & 1 INT - QB Eff Rating = 216.7  :o

It didn't say how many games, but considering the time period I'm hoping a full 15 games, if not, good gracious on the TD's.

That's just the 10 games for Bill Borchert. The NCAA record book just recognizes regular season performances until sometime last decade when they decided to add postseason, but not retroactively.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 25, 2014, 11:34:24 AM
Quote from: dedragon on September 23, 2014, 03:18:42 PM
NCAA Record (Min. 25 atts. per game) Bill Borchert, UMU 1997: 190 of 272 for 69.8%, 2,933 yards with 47 TD's & 1 INT - QB Eff Rating = 216.7  :o

It didn't say how many games, but considering the time period I'm hoping a full 15 games, if not, good gracious on the TD's.

Mount and Borchert KILLED people with a little play-action/half roll they simply called "Roll Pass".  When Dean Paul took over in 1999 at Thomas More, he brought highlight film of the 1997 season and Jim Ballard's senior year with him as an example of the offense we were going to run.  Of course, we didn't run it as efficiently as the two mentioned above :) (mostly because the QB wasn't on the level with Borchert)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 25, 2014, 12:21:39 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2014, 09:09:01 AM

That's just the 10 games for Bill Borchert. The NCAA record book just recognizes regular season performances until sometime last decade when they decided to add postseason, but not retroactively.

Pat,

Does the NCAA only accept data vs. DIII schools only?  If that is the case, anything Callahan does this year is a mute point then.  With some of the non-DIII colleges Wesley is going up against here in the next couple months, his stats could skyrocket.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 25, 2014, 01:59:26 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 25, 2014, 12:21:39 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2014, 09:09:01 AM

That's just the 10 games for Bill Borchert. The NCAA record book just recognizes regular season performances until sometime last decade when they decided to add postseason, but not retroactively.

Pat,

Does the NCAA only accept data vs. DIII schools only?  If that is the case, anything Callahan does this year is a mute point then.  With some of the non-DIII colleges Wesley is going up against here in the next couple months, his stats could skyrocket.

-Ski
Pretty sure the NCAA would accept all of his stats from any school a part of the NCAA (so Menlo, and Charlotte for sure). Virginia-Lynchburg and Concordia Selma are USCAA I think, and I can't find a thing about the College of Faith.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 25, 2014, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: dedragon on September 23, 2014, 03:18:42 PM
Callahan - 82 of 109 for 75.2%, 983 yards with 9 TD's & 0 INT's (in 3 games) - QB Eff Rating = 178.23
Burke - 40 of 55 for 72.7%, 683 yards with 7 TD's & 0 INT's (in 2 games) - QB Eff Rating = 219.04
Behrendt - 43 of 59 for 72.9%, 543 yards with 7 TD's & 0 INT's (in 3 games) - QB Eff Rating = 189.3

I think whats even more impressive is that Callahan has put up these numbers against 3 playoff caliber teams. Burke and Behrendt haven't really played the competition Wesley has quite yet. Burke has seen the defenses of Bethany and Muskingum. Behrendt has seen Waldorf, TCNJ and Franklin (who has a shot at the playoffs).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 26, 2014, 01:42:12 PM
I watched the SVA/Guilford game last week and they are a scrappy bunch.  Wesley will score plenty and if the trend holds the D will be able to shut SVA down.  I will not be stunned by a shut out.  The Wolverines keep rolling through the D3 part of their schedule.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 26, 2014, 03:20:25 PM
VUL was in the USCAA - they're independent now like College of Faith.  As far as Faith goes (well so to speak haha) there maybe a couple versions of that school around.  One I know is in Charlotte while the other one maybe Florida (guessing on that one)??  Tusculum (yes D2) held a College of Faith to -100 yards of offense to open the year though not sure if that's the one that Wesley plays
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 26, 2014, 03:25:44 PM
Quote from: nnasid on September 26, 2014, 03:20:25 PM
VUL was in the USCAA - they're independent now like College of Faith.  As far as Faith goes (well so to speak haha) there maybe a couple versions of that school around.  One I know is in Charlotte while the other one maybe Florida (guessing on that one)??  Tusculum (yes D2) held a College of Faith to -100 yards of offense to open the year though not sure if that's the one that Wesley plays

Yeah, it is the Charlotte version and I think the second string will be in by the end of the first half on that one.  It should have been a JV match-up.  It is sad that Wesley had to schedule a school like that  in the first place.  It shows just how hard it was for Coach Drass to schedule this year.  It will be quite refreshing to see a regular round of DIII teams for once when Wesley joins the NJAC.  So many problems and headaches solved.....

Again, no doubt on the results of the Southern Virginia game. I hope that the Wolverines tighten up on the penalties.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 26, 2014, 03:44:52 PM
You can't help but think Wesley will be in or out of the playoffs by 5p.m. on 10/4. So long as they don't slip up, and I just don't see it happening, those 5 out of division games won't matter. Especially since Concordia-Selma, VUL, and College of Faith all are probably not good. I'm not sure on Concordia-Selma, but they eeked past Point, who used to be competitive with D3 schools, got killed by both Arkansas Pine-Bluff and Southeastern. VUL has been hammered by everyone they've played so far. College of Faith has made SportsCenter for the wrong reasons...

Anyway, Menlo is always interesting when they play D3 schools. and I fully expect Charlotte to be spoiling for a fight after last year. That game is one I'd be worried about getting kids hurt going into the playoffs...

I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to drive down for the Concordia-Selma game. Be nice to see Wesley one last time!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 26, 2014, 04:35:07 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 26, 2014, 03:44:52 PM

I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to drive down for the Concordia-Selma game. Be nice to see Wesley one last time!

Not telling us something?  ???

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 26, 2014, 04:40:35 PM
Quote from: Teamski on September 26, 2014, 04:35:07 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 26, 2014, 03:44:52 PM

I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to drive down for the Concordia-Selma game. Be nice to see Wesley one last time!

Not telling us something?  ???

-Ski

I live in AL and Wesley is joining a 9 or 10 team conference in the mid-atlantic. One or two OOCs a year is unlikely to be a team around here. Especially since I heard the LC series was continuing somewhere on this board. I'd go back and reference it if I wasn't so lazy! But it's been nice the last two years seeing a top D3 team at Huntingdon and BSC (although the BSC game was NOT entertaining). So I have to decide if sitting on the sidelines at Concordia-Selma is a good way to use up some stored points with my wife.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 26, 2014, 05:05:57 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 26, 2014, 04:40:35 PM
I live in AL and Wesley is joining a 9 or 10 team conference in the mid-atlantic. One or two OOCs a year is unlikely to be a team around here. Especially since I heard the LC series was continuing somewhere on this board. I'd go back and reference it if I wasn't so lazy! But it's been nice the last two years seeing a top D3 team at Huntingdon and BSC (although the BSC game was NOT entertaining). So I have to decide if sitting on the sidelines at Concordia-Selma is a good way to use up some stored points with my wife.

Gotcha.....Yeah I am going to miss all of the "exotic" games that Wesley has played against teams from all over the US and from every division.  At least I have the memories of traveling with the team to places like Huntingdon, Capitol and seeing Wesley beat an FCS team on their homecoming!  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2014, 06:23:26 PM
 I wonder if the NCAA will move Wesley to the East next year. I don't think they can put all five schools joining the NJAC in the east region. I suppose they will put a circle around the outter most schools for regional purposes!
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Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2014, 06:25:36 PM
Wesley may have an easier time traveling to play a top team next year with all trips being a bus ride away. I know the players loved staying in Nj when they traveled that way in the past!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on September 26, 2014, 07:11:02 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 26, 2014, 06:23:26 PM
I wonder if the NCAA will move Wesley to the East next year. I don't think they can put all five schools joining the NJAC in the east region. I suppose they will put a circle around the outter most schools for regional purposes!
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Only three would move. The cheap steaks and the cold ones are already in the east. Of course at this point it really only matters at Pool C time...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 27, 2014, 06:47:28 PM
Another solid game by Wesley today.  As a gauge of how well they did, all of the points scored in the game were in the first half!  The second half featured a lot of experience for the back-ups!  Wasn't too happy about Wesley having another 10 penalty game, but man, there was some good action on the field!  A fumbled ball recovered on a sack, a blocked punt by a single blitzer, Kyle George getting 141 yards receiving with a TD catch  that  was something to see with Callahan's pass threading between two defenders and Callahan himself with 5 TD passes in a single half!   Not too shabby.   The D was intense with 6 sacks for the day.

That said, I was impressed by SVA's handling of Wesley's run offense and their special teams smothered the Wesley returners all day.  They have some talent on that team.

I really wanted Brandon Wright to get that huge TD run that was called back for a hold.  Man, that guy put on the jets on the sidelines! 

So, with more work needed on special teams, Wesley moves onto Louisiana College next week to finish off their DIII season.  So far so good on injuries.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on September 27, 2014, 10:20:12 PM
Did not make the trip to Dover today.  Took the week off and went to the Pa RenFaire with the family.  The game went as expected with the offense doing what they wanted and the defense playing shut down again.  1 D3 game left to play.  La College does not look as strong as they have in the past couple of years so I expect Wesley to win this game too.  Both sides of the ball continue to play at a top level and improve each week.  This is a really good team.  I do not know how far this team will go this year, but I have a feeling that they will be playing in the 2nd or 3rd week in December.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on September 28, 2014, 12:35:04 AM
Of course there shouldn't be too much to complain about after a game like today's, but I'll give it a try ;)  SV was able to show some weakness in our DB's today.  More sure handed receivers would have made us pay dearly on a few of those throws.  On several plays it looked like there were communication issues with our defense and the sideline.  Not sure if maybe they were just trying out some new stuff or what?  And while there were a few highlights on special teams (as Ski said, the punt block was pretty entertaining), we still missed extra points and need to improve field position when kicking punts/kickoffs.  We can get away with these things right now, but when we come up against a really strong team all those things are going to bite us every time.  It's the nuances that make the difference between good and great, between getting to the semi-finals vs the finals.

Except for the stupid holding penalties, the offense was again a thing of beauty today.  The way Callahan just seems to naturally glide away from pressure, and keep his eyes down field during a scramble are so much fun to watch.  He and George really seemed in sync today.  Looking forward to LC next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on September 30, 2014, 09:32:32 AM
After this week's game against LC we should have a pretty good idea if Wesley makes the playoffs. LC has faced Huntingdon and Texas Lutheran for the D3 portion of their schedule. Those games both seemed like shootouts so I dont think Wesley will have a problem scoring. It will be interesting to see how the DBs rebound. They got exposed a little bit last week. We will stop the run, so our weakness is in the pass D. Melancon is going to be the best QB we have seen thus far IMO.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on September 30, 2014, 01:12:43 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 30, 2014, 09:32:32 AM
After this week's game against LC we should have a pretty good idea if Wesley makes the playoffs. LC has faced Huntingdon and Texas Lutheran for the D3 portion of their schedule. Those games both seemed like shootouts so I dont think Wesley will have a problem scoring. It will be interesting to see how the DBs rebound. They got exposed a little bit last week. We will stop the run, so our weakness is in the pass D. Melancon is going to be the best QB we have seen thus far IMO.

Yeah, I don't see a lot with Louisiana College that Wesley couldn't manage.  LC's last victory netted less than 300 yards offense.  They had 4 picks which I am sure helped secure the game against Bacone.  It looks like they actively go to the air when the running game fails.  So, yes, the secondary will be busy Saturday if and when Wesley shuts down the run.  Those slant routes need to be covered as you know LC will be using them.  Wesley's offense should be able to deliver the goods and keep the defense off the field.  As you mention, LC gives up points.  The final DIII game for the 2014 regular season should be a good one nonetheless.  I hope that Wesley can pare down the penalties this time around. And, hopefully the rain holds off for the game. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 30, 2014, 10:02:50 PM
 I think you have t look at who was playing in the secondary last week. If I am not mistaken there were at least two starters on the sidelines not suited up!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 01, 2014, 09:13:42 PM
Back to Dover this week after my annual week away from D3 football.  I have no concern about the secondary.  Most D3 secondaries are exposed at some point in a game.  Receivers get open all the time.  Can the QB get them the ball?  Wesley is very good this year getting pressure and I expect the same thing again this week.  How much can La Coll score, in the teens maybe?  Pretty sure they do not hold Wesley that low even if it rains during the game.  Wesley takes care of business and then spends the next 5 weeks sharpening up their game against non D3 teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 01, 2014, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 01, 2014, 09:13:42 PM
Back to Dover this week after my annual week away from D3 football.  I have no concern about the secondary.  Most D3 secondaries are exposed at some point in a game.  Receivers get open all the time.  Can the QB get them the ball?  Wesley is very good this year getting pressure and I expect the same thing again this week.  How much can La Coll score, in the teens maybe?  Pretty sure they do not hold Wesley that low even if it rains during the game.  Wesley takes care of business and then spends the next 5 weeks sharpening up their game against non D3 teams.
It really is kind of good and bad that we will know after this week whether or not Wesley will be in the playoffs. The key will be to maintain focus over those next 5 non-D3 games (which I am sure they will) in order to keep improving. Really a wacky schedule this year. One could argue that these next 5 mean nothing after LC, but 10-0 always looks nice in the record books.

Not to look ahead too far, but I am looking forward to the Charlotte game. It will really be a test to see how much Wesley has grown, and from the looks of the 49er message boards, a lot of fans seem to have written us off. So that will be another fun contest down the road in November.

Need to take care of business this weekend before all of that though!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 02, 2014, 01:11:33 PM
Congrads to Kyle George and Aamir Petrose in making the D3football.com Team of the Week.  Well done gentlemen!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 03, 2014, 05:44:15 PM
 I hate to put a pin in the balloon but we won't know if Wesley is in the playoffs till they play the rest of the games. With only two spots open and as  things look now not a very good owp or oowp it could be touchy if Wesley loses more than one of their out of DIII games> And they haven't played  LA col. yet!!! 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 03, 2014, 09:59:26 PM
Tomorrow is for sure a must win for Wesley no doubt! Big week for Wesleys opponents as well. TMC plays W&J, a huge game in the PAC. Rowan starts their NJAC schedule with Cortland and Salisbury goes against SJF in a game that will tell how good each team will be (from reading the E8 board I am intrigued by SJF).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on October 04, 2014, 12:23:44 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 03, 2014, 05:44:15 PM
I hate to put a pin in the balloon but we won't know if Wesley is in the playoffs till they play the rest of the games. With only two spots open and as  things look now not a very good owp or oowp it could be touchy if Wesley loses more than one of their out of DIII games> And they haven't played  LA col. yet!!!
LC has a lot to prove and make up for. I wouldn't be surprised to see them lead early but fall quickly as I don't think they have the depth that Wesley probably has. But if it s close, I like their chances as they' ep been there and done that by blowing it.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 04, 2014, 08:46:53 AM
2 weeks in a row and no game for me.  Life gets in the way sometimes.  I won't be making the trip to Dover today and I am bummed because I wanted to see La Coll.  Oh well, that is how it goes.  I expect Wesley to win and rather comfortably since I do not expect La Coll to have any better luck scoring on the D than anyone else has.  The offense will continue to improve and score.  Enjoy the game, I will be interested in hearing how it went.  Plenty of good games nationally as well today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 04, 2014, 11:03:29 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 04, 2014, 08:46:53 AM
2 weeks in a row and no game for me.  Life gets in the way sometimes.  I won't be making the trip to Dover today and I am bummed because I wanted to see La Coll.  Oh well, that is how it goes.  I expect Wesley to win and rather comfortably since I do not expect La Coll to have any better luck scoring on the D than anyone else has.  The offense will continue to improve and score.  Enjoy the game, I will be interested in hearing how it went.  Plenty of good games nationally as well today.

You will be missed!  Oh well at least the rain looks like it will subside before the game. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 04, 2014, 04:13:50 PM
Another dominant win today! Totally shut down LC's running game, hence all the passing yardage given up. Callahan was solid again. Left a few opportunities out there but that's alright. Their D3 slate is spoken for. Now time to focus on improving for Charlotte and after that (I would think) round 1.

Got some help from Salisbury today with the upset of SJF in OT as well so that always looks good. Rowan won, and I will be rooting for TMC tonight over W&J.

It seems like we also found a kicker!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 04, 2014, 04:57:29 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 04, 2014, 04:13:50 PM
Another dominant win today! Totally shut down LC's running game, hence all the passing yardage given up. Callahan was solid again. Left a few opportunities out there but that's alright. Their D3 slate is spoken for. Now time to focus on improving for Charlotte and after that (I would think) round 1.

Got some help from Salisbury today with the upset of SJF in OT as well so that always looks good. Rowan won, and I will be rooting for TMC tonight over W&J.

It seems like we also found a kicker!

Yeah I was thrilled when the Salisbury score was announced at the game.  That was a quality win for Wesley as well!  The game today was really good overall.  There were quiet spells on both sides of the ball, but I think that had to do more with being ahead than anything else.  I think the 21-0 score at the end of the 1st quarter lowered the sense of urgency a bit.   There were lost opportunities as well such as two dropped interceptions and slightly overthrown breakaways.  I loved the Brandon Wright TD run late in the game.  It was about time he nailed one and it was well deserved.

Oh, and the new kicker ROCKS!!!!!  I never knew baseball players could kick!  I watched him during the halftime fieldgoal competition several games ago and noticed that he could thump that ball.  I joked to a friend that the team should hire him.... Well, funny how things work out...... He easily nailed every PAT today.   Miracles do happen after all!

Now to find out how I am going to deal with the home game withdrawl symptoms....nose bleeds, shaking hands and uncontrolled sharp outbursts.

-Ski




Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 04, 2014, 11:08:28 PM
I've never heard so many happy people after PAT's!!!  Kudos for finding the new kicker.  I was impressed with most of his kickoffs too.  Obviously a solid win.  Still too many of those oh so frustrating false start penalties.  Looking forward to a solid outing in AL next week.   
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 05, 2014, 01:20:58 AM
Gessh Ski

  Chris was a pitcher on the baseball team!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 05, 2014, 10:51:32 AM
Side note: I believe this is the first time Wesley has opened a season at 5-0 since 2010!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 05, 2014, 02:38:43 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 05, 2014, 01:20:58 AM
Gessh Ski

  Chris was a pitcher on the baseball team!!!!

That was a long time ago.. ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 05, 2014, 03:27:37 PM
Are you saying Chris is old JaBo???  8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 05, 2014, 10:37:32 PM
Baseball players are athletes too!  ;)

Nice to see the kicking game cleaned up. Penalties seemed to have appeared later in the game (holdings, false starts). I think that is something that will fix itself over time. Still an aspect of the game that needs cleaned up though 9-91 yesterday. Was looking at the NCAA stats, Wesley is ranked in the 200s when it comes to penalties. Will start to get worried if it comes to week 8-9 still like that. Don't think this team has played its best football yet.

Not to worried about the passing numbers Melancon put up. When you throw 60 times in a game that is bound to happen, especially with the playmakers LC has at WR.

Don't know much about Concordia-Selma. It stinks they won't be back home until November. Oh well. Hopefully I will see you all then (as I will not be buying plane tickets to Alabama, or California).  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 06, 2014, 10:11:50 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 05, 2014, 03:27:37 PM
Are you saying Chris is old JaBo???  8-)

Well if he's pushing 40...... (don't know what that says about you and me.)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 06, 2014, 10:13:45 AM
Great to see Eric Speidel get some cudos on both Snap Judgments and the D3 Football Podcast!  Well done! He certainly got the crowd going with each PAT.  The guy is a machine!

As the Wesley Wolverine spaceship disappears behind the D3 moon......

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 06, 2014, 05:53:22 PM
haha  Jason

Now that you put it that way!!! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on October 09, 2014, 03:12:08 PM
Piece on Wesley's new kicker.

Pretty good story.

http://wdel.com/story.php?id=63225

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on October 09, 2014, 11:48:36 PM
Quote from: dedragon on October 09, 2014, 03:12:08 PM
Piece on Wesley's new kicker.

Pretty good story.

http://wdel.com/story.php?id=63225

That is a good story. Love the part about making a tackle on the kickoff. That sold me right there. Kid can hit .347, make kicks, and make an open field tackle (without ever practicing tackling). He's an athlete. He's also a kid I would trust with a big kick. Baseball is a lot like kicking in that the pressure is largely situational. He's used to it and he obviously thrives in it.  As Wesley advances in the playoffs, who knows, maybe this story gets even bigger!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 10, 2014, 12:22:09 AM
Thanks for sharing the article - loved it!   At least where I was sitting I think he got as many cheers for the first PAT as were given for the actual touchdown.  Takes a certain personality to be a kicker - ready to be either the hero or the goat with every kick.  Here's hoping his success continues.

Just an aside for those in Delaware - have you all noticed the News Journal has pretty much ignored Wesley so far this year (and DelState for that matter)? I know they always focus more on UD, but by reading the Saturday paper you really wouldn't even know there was more than one college team in the state.  The obligatory recap on Sunday is pretty much the same as we can read on the DIII website.  I never expect spectacular coverage of anything below the canal but geez......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on October 10, 2014, 08:32:39 AM
DE Wesley Fan:

Agree with you concerning The News Journal coverage. I believe in years past they would at least have a brief pre-game write up and prediction but that is no longer the case.

Perhaps even more disappointing is the complete absence of coverage by The DOVER Post
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 10, 2014, 10:35:00 AM
Quote from: NedM on October 10, 2014, 08:32:39 AM
DE Wesley Fan:

Agree with you concerning The News Journal coverage. I believe in years past they would at least have a brief pre-game write up and prediction but that is no longer the case.

Perhaps even more disappointing is the complete absence of coverage by The DOVER Post

Yeah, I fully concur.  The Dover Post always focuses on the high school scene instead.  I have always been stunned at how neglected locally Wesley's football team is.  I have been watching the team since 2006 and I would not have even known about them if it wasn't for seeing the football field on walks with my wife.  I mean really!  The Wolverines should have a strong local following.  Instead, I get "really, 4th ranked?  They must be really good then."  Really?  I know Mount Union has tons of townies showing up in various stages of inebriation.  You would expect the same for Wesley.  But no.  I will have to submit an op-ed to the Dover Post. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on October 10, 2014, 11:45:50 AM
Quote from: Teamski on October 10, 2014, 10:35:00 AM
I know Mount Union has tons of townies showing up in various stages of inebriation.  You would expect the same for Wesley.  But no. 
-Ski
When we made the trip to Wesley in '07 there was that guy wandering up and down the street behind the visitor's stands greeting us with some colorful language for most of the first half. But that's probably not the type townie you are looking for.  ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 10, 2014, 01:49:35 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 10, 2014, 11:45:50 AM
Quote from: Teamski on October 10, 2014, 10:35:00 AM
I know Mount Union has tons of townies showing up in various stages of inebriation.  You would expect the same for Wesley.  But no. 
-Ski
When we made the trip to Wesley in '07 there was that guy wandering up and down the street behind the visitor's stands greeting us with some colorful language for most of the first half. But that's probably not the type townie you are looking for.  ::)

Prolly not.  I would have had a few choice words for him as well and introduced him to the Wesley security folks.

-SKi
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on October 10, 2014, 05:20:52 PM
For those of you who know me on this site...

That was probably my boss.  ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 11, 2014, 10:39:35 AM
Just seeing effects of diminishing newspaper sales. I know the NJ has laid off people and supplementing with a lot of USA Today stuff. Kevin Tresonlini was at the Rowan game on UDs off week. I'm sure they want to cover more but it isn't in the budget. Hard pay reporters when sales are down.

You usually had to send the Dover Post a story when I was SID, which was a long time ago. I am sure Steven doing that it's just a battle for space.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on October 11, 2014, 01:03:49 PM
  I just had a thought out of nowhere while catching up on the Wesley posts, but with the Wolverines joining the NJAC next season will this thread disappear? I mean, you guys seem to be the only ones who post here so once you're in that conference I'm guessing you'll put all your posts over there. What do the regulars think?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 11, 2014, 01:24:33 PM
7-0 Wesley. Callahan to Koudossou. 6:30 to go in the first.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 11, 2014, 01:36:46 PM
9-0 Wesley gets the safety. Sosthene Kapepula. 3:02 left in first.

UPDATE: Spiedel with a 30 yard field goal. 12-0. Callahan seems a little off today.
UPDATE: 19-0 Wesley. Koudossou gets loose on a screen. 8:46 2nd quarter.
UPDATE: Halftime 19-0 Wesley. Offense seems to be struggling. Officiating crew seems to be clueless. Yikes. We will see how the second half goes.
UPDATE: 26-0. Steve Koudossou takes the 2nd half opening kickoff 77 yards to the house!
UPDATE: 33-0. Jamar Baynard 50-some yard screen pass in the 3rd.
UPDATE: 40-0. DC Caine with a fumble recovery TD. 7:01 left in 3rd.
UPDATE: 47-0. Zach Smith to Robert Wiggs. 0:58 to go in 3rd.
UPDATE: 54-0. Kennard Squirrell run. 7:37 to go in game. Brent Adams w/ extra pt. Spiedel made all of his xp's
FINAL: 54-0. Wesley moves to 6-0 on the season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 11, 2014, 05:06:50 PM
Ditto to everything WaterBoy said. Offense wasn't on today - more stupid holding calls and a rare day that Callahan wasn't on his game. O line certainly wasn't making his day easier. Not sure if it was the long ride or the heat but everybody was pretty flat. Obviously not a problem given the score, but.... Was nice to have a pretty rockin' band for entertainment. Hope the boys get some rest before next week's trip.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 13, 2014, 04:23:44 PM
At least this weekend will be a flight to California. Has to be better than a bus ride.

Hopefully Callahan can get dialed back in and still need to reel in the penalties. Still 4 games left to do just that. Wow, this season is flying by!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 13, 2014, 06:40:19 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 13, 2014, 04:23:44 PM
At least this weekend will be a flight to California. Has to be better than a bus ride.

Hopefully Callahan can get dialed back in and still need to reel in the penalties. Still 4 games left to do just that. Wow, this season is flying by!

No doubt.  The game against Concordia might also be a case of dialing back due to the opponent before the game even starts.  I have seen this before.  There is no urgency to throw numbers up and it ends up being a scrimmage.  I'm not too concerned about the numbers.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 18, 2014, 03:38:30 PM
Man, I HATE Stretch video!!!  It is the slowest, laggiest lousiest stream EVER!!!!  Ugghhh!!!!  I had to pay $7.95 for this in order to watch Wesley play Menlo?   It's crap, but Wesley is leading Menlo 21-0 in the first and is really showing its brawn.  So all is not bad.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 18, 2014, 04:21:24 PM
Listening to my boy on WDEL, but Stretch hasn't worked on any of my devices as I've been trying to watch a little, Salisbury, UMHB, Del Val too

The Wolverines always seem to plan well when I am with my family in a corn maze. Last year, they scored four touchdowns while I was in there during BSC. Todayr its 14-0 before I even start listening after we get out of that thing.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 18, 2014, 04:23:16 PM
Wesley is getting slammed with personal fouls right now.  Leading 35-0.  Has anybody ever heard of a running back (Brandon Wright in this case) getting a personal foul for leading with the helmet and getting the 15 yards AND a loss of down?  That just happened.... ?????

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 18, 2014, 05:27:01 PM
Leading into the 4th, Wesley is leading 56-0.  The back-ups came in after Callahan scored the first TD of the half and they are still scoring with some long running and screen plays.   The Menlo announcer mentioned that the Menlo head coach felt before the game that Wesley could easily play head-to-head with the FCS teams that Menlo played already this year including Sac State.  That is quite the complement.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 18, 2014, 06:02:00 PM
Wesley wins 70-2 with 194 yards on the ground by Ben Martin. He ran the ball 5 times for a 38 yard average and 3 TDs!  I haven't seen a performance like that in a long time.  The guy was simply running the edge of the field and hauling!  He is quick!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 18, 2014, 07:37:25 PM
So the video started working for you?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 18, 2014, 08:59:10 PM
It lagged and eventually stopped working altogether to work again in the 3rd with only a couple stutters from there on.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 18, 2014, 09:07:14 PM
It was interesting to note that Wesley beat Menlo by single scores the previous two years.  Is this year's score an anomaly or a reflection of a better team?  Considering the point spreads in the games played so far, we might be looking at the best Wesley team yet.   I think that the Charlotte game will help show where the team is at prior to the play-offs.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 19, 2014, 02:01:50 AM
Obviously a great day for Wesley with really nothing negative to critique (other than stupid personal foul penalties, but not sure they were all "real"). To Wesley's credit Menlo just couldn't get any kind of offense going. Kind of glad Charlotte is the last game of the regular season. Hopefully they'll be stronger competition and help get us in playoff mindset.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on October 19, 2014, 08:04:18 AM
Quote from: Teamski on October 18, 2014, 09:07:14 PM
It was interesting to note that Wesley beat Menlo by single scores the previous two years.  Is this year's score an anomaly or a reflection of a better team?  Considering the point spreads in the games played so far, we might be looking at the best Wesley team yet.   I think that the Charlotte game will help show where the team is at prior to the play-offs.

-Ski

Ski, this is the best team I have seen.  The defense is the difference.  Wesley has always been able to score, but when they have gotten to the quarters and semis they have given up too many points.  If the defense continues to play at this level Wesley has a chance to win it all.  I watched some of the La Coll/MHB game and MHB does not look as good as they did last year.  Except for a couple of long pass plays that is a close game and La Coll was missing their top 2 receivers I believe.  Going back to Mount last year, if the defense makes 1 stop somewhere Wesley could have won that game.  Linfield looks strong right now and of course there is UWW.  My concern about the Charlotte game is that no one gets injured, winning would be nice but not necessary when it comes to D3 and the playoffs.  It may all come down to which bracket they get put in and who they play.  I hope that they are not with MHB to see if they are possibly the 2 best teams.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 19, 2014, 09:26:16 AM
Agree that in years past defense has given up too many points in the playoff losses, but in some of those games offense put them in some very bad positions.  Since it looks like we now have 2 very solid options for running the ball (along with a decent 3rd), a heck of a tight end, along with a nice receiving corp offense really should be in a much better position to take control in playoff games. Had a few scares in yesterday's game so here's hoping the injury bug stays away.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on October 19, 2014, 01:22:06 PM
  To me, it's turnovers. They aren't giving it away. You can't do it against UMU, UMHB, etc. I'm not ready to call this the best Wesley team; they are going to have to earn that title on the field. Are they executing at the highest level I've seen? That's the question I am pondering right now.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 20, 2014, 01:32:56 AM
Gotta agree with JaBo. The past few years its been one play (turnover) which is typically the difference maker when Wesley goes against Mount, UMHB etc. They are executing very well and hopefully it stays that way. This weekend was yet another thorough kicking. The video feed kind of sucked. Definitely not worth the $8 I paid for it.

Got some more help from our D3 opponents again. Salisbury, Rowan and TMC were all in the win column. The only exception being LC. SoVa lost too but I don't think they count. Wesley is pretty much in the playoffs, but anything that helps their "status" even more works for me.

VUL this week, need to stay healthy.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 23, 2014, 04:00:47 PM
Big time congrads to Ben Martin in making the D3Football.com team of the week.  His 5 runs for 194 yards was something to see!  I know the Menlo announcer was really impressed with what he referred to as his "second gear."  Well done sir.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 24, 2014, 10:25:49 AM
I am not looking forward to either VUL or CoF games.  They will be torrid affairs and will do Wesley no favors in keeping the players sharp for the end of the season Charlotte game as well as the playoffs.  It is games like these that I thank the stars for the NJAC!!!  I hope Coach Drass can keep the players focused until then......  That said, Wesley has had poor competition in the past and it didn't seem to have a big impact on key games.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 24, 2014, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: Teamski on October 24, 2014, 10:25:49 AM
I am not looking forward to either VUL or CoF games.  They will be torrid affairs and will do Wesley no favors in keeping the players sharp for the end of the season Charlotte game as well as the playoffs.  It is games like these that I thank the stars for the NJAC!!!  I hope Coach Drass can keep the players focused until then......  That said, Wesley has had poor competition in the past and it didn't seem to have a big impact on key games.

-Ski

Best to think of it as a way to get some experience for the younger guys. Or more experience anyway. Probably got some at Menlo as well. The CoF game is going to be really, really bad.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 24, 2014, 02:27:19 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 24, 2014, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: Teamski on October 24, 2014, 10:25:49 AM
I am not looking forward to either VUL or CoF games.  They will be torrid affairs and will do Wesley no favors in keeping the players sharp for the end of the season Charlotte game as well as the playoffs.  It is games like these that I thank the stars for the NJAC!!!  I hope Coach Drass can keep the players focused until then......  That said, Wesley has had poor competition in the past and it didn't seem to have a big impact on key games.

-Ski

Best to think of it as a way to get some experience for the younger guys. Or more experience anyway. Probably got some at Menlo as well. The CoF game is going to be really, really bad.

Yeah, that is a positive spin.....good point.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on October 24, 2014, 02:38:35 PM
I looked at CoF's schedule. They didn't score in any of the first 3 games against real college programs. The did beat UNC 35-10, which seems really impressive until your common sense sets in and you realize it was UNC's club football team. I wasn't able to get any info about the NGSA game, but you can probably get a feel for NGSA by asking a Methodist guy. Apparently NGSA played Methodists' JV team earlier in the fall and then were beaten by Point University 48-0. Then CoF went right back to getting stoned by Clarke-Atlanta. Finally, no info that I found on the OC Tech game.

Suffice to say, CoF isn't a good team. That won't be a game. It should just be a glorified scrimmage with a mercy rule...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 24, 2014, 04:40:49 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 24, 2014, 02:38:35 PM
I looked at CoF's schedule. They didn't score in any of the first 3 games against real college programs. The did beat UNC 35-10, which seems really impressive until your common sense sets in and you realize it was UNC's club football team. I wasn't able to get any info about the NGSA game, but you can probably get a feel for NGSA by asking a Methodist guy. Apparently NGSA played Methodists' JV team earlier in the fall and then were beaten by Point University 48-0. Then CoF went right back to getting stoned by Clarke-Atlanta. Finally, no info that I found on the OC Tech game.

Suffice to say, CoF isn't a good team. That won't be a game. It should just be a glorified scrimmage with a mercy rule...

And it seems that VUL has been playing FCS teams to fund their program; each game the team got absolutely skewered.   It might end up being another Menlo game where Wesley outscores itself in comparison to previous seasons playing the school.  Just ugly.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on October 25, 2014, 06:30:43 PM
Best that can be said from today is that we stayed injury free and reserves got solid playing time again. It's really nice to see the starters cheering for those guys and getting excited when they have big plays. Nice facility down here.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 25, 2014, 06:36:56 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on October 25, 2014, 06:30:43 PM
Best that can be said from today is that we stayed injury free and reserves got solid playing time again. It's really nice to see the starters cheering for those guys and getting excited when they have big plays. Nice facility down here.

Yeah, the municipal stadium they use is pretty nice.  Neat to see Speidel continuing his PAT streak.  Amazing.  It was a silly game and Wesley did indeed outscore itself again with the back-ups.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 26, 2014, 12:38:49 PM
Not looking forward to next weekend. At least they are staying sharp, not turning the ball over and things like that. Really sucks Wesley can't field more than 5 Division III games, at least those would carry more weight than VUL, Menlo and CoF.

I AM excited for Charlotte though. Looks like they give up a lot of points and score a lot on offense. So that will certainly be an interesting measure to see how Wesley will do in the playoffs. They lost their QB Johnson last week, looks like a knee, but they are waiting on an MRI.

When do the Regional Rankings come out?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 28, 2014, 03:19:36 PM
Cudos to Peyton Rose for making the D3Football.com team of the week!  Well done sir!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on October 28, 2014, 11:20:59 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 26, 2014, 12:38:49 PM
Not looking forward to next weekend. At least they are staying sharp, not turning the ball over and things like that. Really sucks Wesley can't field more than 5 Division III games, at least those would carry more weight than VUL, Menlo and CoF.

I AM excited for Charlotte though. Looks like they give up a lot of points and score a lot on offense. So that will certainly be an interesting measure to see how Wesley will do in the playoffs. They lost their QB Johnson last week, looks like a knee, but they are waiting on an MRI.

When do the Regional Rankings come out?

I believe Pat and Keith spoke to this on the ATN podcast. I believe they said that comes out next week. Usually on Wednesday or Thursday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on October 28, 2014, 11:50:30 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on October 28, 2014, 11:20:59 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 26, 2014, 12:38:49 PM
Not looking forward to next weekend. At least they are staying sharp, not turning the ball over and things like that. Really sucks Wesley can't field more than 5 Division III games, at least those would carry more weight than VUL, Menlo and CoF.

I AM excited for Charlotte though. Looks like they give up a lot of points and score a lot on offense. So that will certainly be an interesting measure to see how Wesley will do in the playoffs. They lost their QB Johnson last week, looks like a knee, but they are waiting on an MRI.

When do the Regional Rankings come out?

I believe Pat and Keith spoke to this on the ATN podcast. I believe they said that comes out next week. Usually on Wednesday or Thursday.

Thanks! +1 I figured it was either this week or next.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on October 29, 2014, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 28, 2014, 11:50:30 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on October 28, 2014, 11:20:59 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on October 26, 2014, 12:38:49 PM
Not looking forward to next weekend. At least they are staying sharp, not turning the ball over and things like that. Really sucks Wesley can't field more than 5 Division III games, at least those would carry more weight than VUL, Menlo and CoF.

I AM excited for Charlotte though. Looks like they give up a lot of points and score a lot on offense. So that will certainly be an interesting measure to see how Wesley will do in the playoffs. They lost their QB Johnson last week, looks like a knee, but they are waiting on an MRI.

When do the Regional Rankings come out?

I believe Pat and Keith spoke to this on the ATN podcast. I believe they said that comes out next week. Usually on Wednesday or Thursday.

Thanks! +1 I figured it was either this week or next.

No prob!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on October 31, 2014, 03:53:43 PM
Ugh....tomorrow is supposed to be rainy, windy and cold.  Man is the Wesley game going to suck all the way around......    :-\

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 01, 2014, 09:10:55 AM
Bad weather, bad game, no son playing in it, no reason to go watch it.  Weather on the east coast has forced me to cancel any plans to go watch any game today.  Thank goodness for the internet and video, I will get to watch as many games as I want to in the comfy confines of home.  If you head out to a game today, dress warm, try to stay dry, and enjoy the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 01, 2014, 09:17:42 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 01, 2014, 09:10:55 AM
Bad weather, bad game, no son playing in it, no reason to go watch it.  Weather on the east coast has forced me to cancel any plans to go watch any game today.  Thank goodness for the internet and video, I will get to watch as many games as I want to in the comfy confines of home.  If you head out to a game today, dress warm, try to stay dry, and enjoy the game.

Yeah, this could end up being another Hobart game weather wise......

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: GillCJ1 on November 01, 2014, 10:06:38 AM
Stay safe out there for those of you traveling to games today.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 01, 2014, 11:09:18 AM
Neither wind nor rain shall keep us away today :) Shame its so crappy for senior day, but hopefully there will be another home game for them in the tournament. Think there needs to be a slaughter rule in college...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 01, 2014, 12:45:08 PM
Well this is worse than anything I expected so far ::)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 01, 2014, 01:08:57 PM
2nd Quarter just started annnnnnddd Callahan's day is done. Yikes. Gotta play your schedule though.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 01, 2014, 02:57:39 PM
Well, I can barely type right now as my hands are still frozen.  This was another nasty cold rainy game and was the first Wesley game that I have seen that invoked a mercy rule and shortened the second half by 5 minutes a quarter.  Lousy weather and a downright lousy game.  College of Faith showed up with 20 players and it was a downhill from there. 

Now to get the players refocused and rested  for the game of the season so far at UNC Charlotte in two weeks time.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 01, 2014, 03:01:55 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 01, 2014, 02:57:39 PM
Well, I can barely type right now as my hands are still frozen.  This was another nasty cold rainy game and was the first Wesley game that I have seen that invoked a mercy rule and shortened the second half by 5 minutes a quarter.  Lousy weather and a downright lousy game.  College of Faith showed up with 20 players and it was a downhill from there. 

Now to get the players refocused and rested  for the game of the season so far at UNC Charlotte in two weeks time.

-Ski
Get warm Ski! (and the rest of the team). It was literally time to pack up after the 1st quarter. Time to get healthy for Charlotte. I'm sure they will be hungry after the loss we gave them last year. But, hey! We have a chance to go 10-0 for the first time since 2010.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 01, 2014, 06:31:28 PM
Well, it isn't the -100 yards of offense that College of Faith had earlier this season, but Wesley held them to -43 yards of offense today.  Yeah......   ::)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 01, 2014, 10:08:27 PM
i am still wet. stayed to the end!!what was i thinking>>
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 01, 2014, 10:47:58 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 01, 2014, 10:08:27 PM
i am still wet. stayed to the end!!what was i thinking>>

So glad they are joining NJAC next year. I hate that we won't be suiting up mid season, but what a waste of a day.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 01, 2014, 11:37:42 PM
umhb2001

It will be nice to know that Wesley will have 9 scheduled games to start with and just one to fill
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 02, 2014, 08:33:53 PM
So since we have two weeks... what is everyone thinking about Charlotte?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 02, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 02, 2014, 08:33:53 PM
So since we have two weeks... what is everyone thinking about Charlotte?

Well, they are a better team than last year.  So is Wesley.  It should be a humdinger of a game.  Charlotte loves to run, so the defensive line will have to be on their game.  Regardless, it will be Wesley's toughest game of the season.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 03, 2014, 01:39:59 AM
Quote from: Teamski on November 02, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 02, 2014, 08:33:53 PM
So since we have two weeks... what is everyone thinking about Charlotte?

Well, they are a better team than last year.  So is Wesley.  It should be a humdinger of a game.  Charlotte loves to run, so the defensive line will have to be on their game.  Regardless, it will be Wesley's toughest game of the season.

-Ski
Agree. Charlotte's offense looks fantastic (been putting up 40 pts a game the past few weeks), but their defense, not so much. Callahan and the offense will put some points up, but it will be interesting to see how the Wesley D does. This will be a perfect game for Wesley to shake off the dust from playing CoF, VUL and Concordia, and a great way to move into playoffs after going through the weaker part of the schedule. Just hope everyone stays healthy. This game is going to be a real good indicator of how far this team can get. They just need to come out with a chip on their shoulder (and I think they will).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 03, 2014, 02:46:31 PM
At least you can spend the two weeks watching some of Charlotte's games on ESPN3 to get a preview of what Wesley is going up against.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on November 03, 2014, 02:49:24 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 03, 2014, 02:46:31 PM
At least you can spend the two weeks watching some of Charlotte's games on ESPN3 to get a preview of what Wesley is going up against.  ;)

-Ski

You mean COF's win against UNC's club team wasn't on ESPN3??  ;D Hey, Wesley did what they had to do, both schedule wise and rolling through the opponents. It couldn't have been fun, but it was the best of the limited options Wesley had. I just hope the four bye weeks in a row don't dull the team's edge.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 03, 2014, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 03, 2014, 02:49:24 PM;D Hey, Wesley did what they had to do, both schedule wise and rolling through the opponents. It couldn't have been fun, but it was the best of the limited options Wesley had. I just hope the four bye weeks in a row don't dull the team's edge.

That 4 bye weeks?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on November 03, 2014, 02:57:14 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 03, 2014, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 03, 2014, 02:49:24 PM;D Hey, Wesley did what they had to do, both schedule wise and rolling through the opponents. It couldn't have been fun, but it was the best of the limited options Wesley had. I just hope the four bye weeks in a row don't dull the team's edge.

That 4 bye weeks?

-Ski

Is that supposed to be "what 4 bye weeks?" Well, I suppose these:

0/11    at Concordia-Selma    W, 54-0    
10/18    at Menlo    W, 70-2    
10/25    at Virginia-Lynchburg    W, 75-12    
11/1    vs. College of Faith    W, 62-0    

Then again, 11/8 looks like a tougher opponent than any of the above, so maybe 5 bye weeks is more appropriate?  ;D

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 03, 2014, 03:06:29 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 03, 2014, 02:57:14 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 03, 2014, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 03, 2014, 02:49:24 PM;D Hey, Wesley did what they had to do, both schedule wise and rolling through the opponents. It couldn't have been fun, but it was the best of the limited options Wesley had. I just hope the four bye weeks in a row don't dull the team's edge.

That 4 bye weeks?

-Ski

Is that supposed to be "what 4 bye weeks?" Well, I suppose these:

0/11    at Concordia-Selma    W, 54-0    
10/18    at Menlo    W, 70-2    
10/25    at Virginia-Lynchburg    W, 75-12    
11/1    vs. College of Faith    W, 62-0    

Then again, 11/8 looks like a tougher opponent than any of the above, so maybe 5 bye weeks is more appropriate?  ;D

hehehe..... Yeah I guess you could call those some bye weeks.  Last year, at least Menlo gave Wesley a game.  Looking forward to the NJAC, a conference that has given Wesley its only regular season losses other than UMHB in the last 6 years or so.  Wesley will definitely have a lot of opportunities to keep its edge sharp next year.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 03, 2014, 11:49:11 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 03, 2014, 02:49:24 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 03, 2014, 02:46:31 PM
At least you can spend the two weeks watching some of Charlotte's games on ESPN3 to get a preview of what Wesley is going up against.  ;)

-Ski

You mean COF's win against UNC's club team wasn't on ESPN3??  ;D Hey, Wesley did what they had to do, both schedule wise and rolling through the opponents. It couldn't have been fun, but it was the best of the limited options Wesley had. I just hope the four bye weeks in a row don't dull the team's edge.

I have the same concern, which is why I'm so glad we play Charlotte next and at least have that one competitive game before the playoffs.  It has to be hard to stay focused during these blow out wins, bad habits can be formed when you get away with imperfect execution, not to mention that starters haven't had to play a whole game in over a month so I wonder about their stamina.  On the plus side, for the most part at least we've seemed to avert the injury bug that has usually infected us by now and we should be fresh and ready to go.  The one player who should be really sharp by now is our kicker after all these PAT's!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 04, 2014, 12:32:32 AM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 03, 2014, 11:49:11 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 03, 2014, 02:49:24 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 03, 2014, 02:46:31 PM
At least you can spend the two weeks watching some of Charlotte's games on ESPN3 to get a preview of what Wesley is going up against.  ;)

-Ski

You mean COF's win against UNC's club team wasn't on ESPN3??  ;D Hey, Wesley did what they had to do, both schedule wise and rolling through the opponents. It couldn't have been fun, but it was the best of the limited options Wesley had. I just hope the four bye weeks in a row don't dull the team's edge.

I have the same concern, which is why I'm so glad we play Charlotte next and at least have that one competitive game before the playoffs.  It has to be hard to stay focused during these blow out wins, bad habits can be formed when you get away with imperfect execution, not to mention that starters haven't had to play a whole game in over a month so I wonder about their stamina.  On the plus side, for the most part at least we've seemed to avert the injury bug that has usually infected us by now and we should be fresh and ready to go.  The one player who should be really sharp by now is our kicker after all these PAT's!
Not too worried about the stamina thing. I don't think Mount Union's starters have played a full game all year.

Spiedel is awesome! Something like 48-48 in PATs (I think the school record is 63), either way it is nice to see that the kicking game is no longer as suspect as it seems to have been at times. This guy is automatic (knocks on wood).  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 04, 2014, 10:24:17 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 04, 2014, 12:32:32 AM
Not too worried about the stamina thing. I don't think Mount Union's starters have played a full game all year.

Spiedel is awesome! Something like 48-48 in PATs (I think the school record is 63), either way it is nice to see that the kicking game is no longer as suspect as it seems to have been at times. This guy is automatic (knocks on wood).  ;)

I'm not either.  The fact that Wesley has the depth to sub out when needed should keep the players in good shape.  Also, I NEVER underestimate the ability of Coach Drass and company in preparing the players for the next game, no matter how challenging it is.  If Wesley can continue to avoid injuries, they are going to be a lot of fun to watch in the playoffs.  You know the players are biting at the reigns right now.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 04, 2014, 01:23:33 PM
Looking at Charlotte a bit more, they seem to have an extremely balanced offense.  They can both run and pass.  They have two strong go-to guys that if the Wesley defense can neutralize, they will limit Charlotte's ability to move the ball.  On the ground, #3 Kalif Phillips puts some serious yardage on the board, going over 100 yards on average per game.  In the air, the QB goes to #10, Austin Duke as his primary receiver.  He is quick, so whoever is covering him will have to be on his toes.

Wesley's offense needs to keep  mistakes to an absolute minimum.  If they execute like they have, they should be able to hang some points up on the board.  I haven't compared stats, but you can expect Wesley to give up some size to Charlotte.  That will require some extremely tight timing on the plays.

I wish we didn't have to wait 2 weeks on this one.

-Ski





Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on November 05, 2014, 02:25:54 AM
Quote from: Teamski on November 04, 2014, 01:23:33 PM
Looking at Charlotte a bit more, they seem to have an extremely balanced offense.  They can both run and pass.  They have two strong go-to guys that if the Wesley defense can neutralize, they will limit Charlotte's ability to move the ball.  On the ground, #3 Kalif Phillips puts some serious yardage on the board, going over 100 yards on average per game.  In the air, the QB goes to #10, Austin Duke as his primary receiver.  He is quick, so whoever is covering him will have to be on his toes.

Wesley's offense needs to keep  mistakes to an absolute minimum.  If they execute like they have, they should be able to hang some points up on the board.  I haven't compared stats, but you can expect Wesley to give up some size to Charlotte.  That will require some extremely tight timing on the plays.

I wish we didn't have to wait 2 weeks on this one.

-Ski

I think it actually helps Wesley with the 2 weeks preparation.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 05, 2014, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on November 05, 2014, 02:25:54 AM
I think it actually helps Wesley with the 2 weeks preparation.
Maybe even more than that. Don't think they needed to worry all that much about CoF.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 05, 2014, 04:27:38 PM
Charlotte is plaing for a bowl berth starting next year in Conference USA. They where a 1st year program but had a group on redshirt freshmen who came in a year early to practice and lift. They play #2 ranked FCS Coastal Carolina this weekend. Their starting QB went down last week so it will interesting to see when or if he comes back.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 06, 2014, 02:06:18 AM
Quote from: @d3jason on November 05, 2014, 04:27:38 PM
Charlotte is plaing for a bowl berth starting next year in Conference USA. They where a 1st year program but had a group on redshirt freshmen who came in a year early to practice and lift. They play #2 ranked FCS Coastal Carolina this weekend. Their starting QB went down last week so it will interesting to see when or if he comes back.
People on Charlotte's message boards say their QB Johnson is week to week, but unlikely to play against Coastal. This game is going to be a good one in two weeks!

RRs came out, not really surprised at where Wesley is, but I expect because of their SOS to head up a bracket somewhere, especially if they take down Charlotte (even though that's supposed to be secondary criteria).
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 06, 2014, 10:14:38 AM
I'm hoping that the Charlotte/CC game will be on ESPN 3 this Saturday.  Need to have more looks at Duke and Phillips.  I am sure the Wesley game will be another $10 expenditure and I certainly hope the stream is a hell of a lot better than Menlo's!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on November 06, 2014, 10:51:17 AM
Quote from: Teamski on November 06, 2014, 10:14:38 AM
I'm hoping that the Charlotte/CC game will be on ESPN 3 this Saturday.  Need to have more looks at Duke and Phillips.  I am sure the Wesley game will be another $10 expenditure and I certainly hope the stream is a hell of a lot better than Menlo's!

-Ski

I don't know about ESPN3, but all of Charlotte's home games are broadcast on one of the local stations and it appears that streaming video will be available. I have no idea about what it might cost, but if you Google "Charlotte 49ers football" you should be able to get what you need. FWIW, the announcers aren't horrible but don't go in expecting Keith Jackson or Brent Musberger, either.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 06, 2014, 01:18:52 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on November 06, 2014, 10:51:17 AM
Quote from: Teamski on November 06, 2014, 10:14:38 AM
I'm hoping that the Charlotte/CC game will be on ESPN 3 this Saturday.  Need to have more looks at Duke and Phillips.  I am sure the Wesley game will be another $10 expenditure and I certainly hope the stream is a hell of a lot better than Menlo's!

-Ski

I don't know about ESPN3, but all of Charlotte's home games are broadcast on one of the local stations and it appears that streaming video will be available. I have no idea about what it might cost, but if you Google "Charlotte 49ers football" you should be able to get what you need. FWIW, the announcers aren't horrible but don't go in expecting Keith Jackson or Brent Musberger, either.
Ski,

Looking at the Charlotte video options its $10 for the month I believe, not per game. So if ESPN 3 is not an option, you could always watch online through the Charlotte video stream anyway.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 06, 2014, 02:47:03 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 06, 2014, 01:18:52 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on November 06, 2014, 10:51:17 AM
Quote from: Teamski on November 06, 2014, 10:14:38 AM
I'm hoping that the Charlotte/CC game will be on ESPN 3 this Saturday.  Need to have more looks at Duke and Phillips.  I am sure the Wesley game will be another $10 expenditure and I certainly hope the stream is a hell of a lot better than Menlo's!

-Ski

I don't know about ESPN3, but all of Charlotte's home games are broadcast on one of the local stations and it appears that streaming video will be available. I have no idea about what it might cost, but if you Google "Charlotte 49ers football" you should be able to get what you need. FWIW, the announcers aren't horrible but don't go in expecting Keith Jackson or Brent Musberger, either.
Ski,

Looking at the Charlotte video options its $10 for the month I believe, not per game. So if ESPN 3 is not an option, you could always watch online through the Charlotte video stream anyway.

True......
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 06, 2014, 04:06:03 PM
Or listen to the radio feed while Sean and I paint the pictures in your mind.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 06, 2014, 05:52:33 PM
 HAha and what a picture it is!! Actually all the food talk makes me hungry!~!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 08, 2014, 09:11:42 PM
Interesting week in D3 football. Wesley gets more help from their opponents with everyone picking up a W. With only 1 RRO, strength of schedule will be a very important statistic.

Saw Charlotte got beat pretty handily by #2 Coastal Carolina. Wesley has a pretty good shot to get out of there with a win. I think the offense is going to need to keep the foot on the gas for 4 quarters though. Charlotte seems to pick up the scoring as the game goes on, so hopefully our defense will be up for the challenge.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 09, 2014, 07:37:52 AM
Happy to see Charlotte get thumped by Coastal. Although I was impressed with the 34 points they scored, mostly in the second half. Would think that Coastal pulled their starters gearing up for a playoff run.

Either way, looks to be a great challenge for Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 10, 2014, 12:20:28 PM
It'll be interesting to see how everything plays out this weekend for Wesley on the national stage. If they get out of Charlotte with a win (or even if they lose perhaps) and Mount holds off JCU, I dont see us matching up with MHB until Salem, as Wesley will get shipped off to the "east" bracket with the winner of that taking on the winner of the UWW (probably?) bracket, or Mount Union bracket depending on how the committee decides to go.

Teams I see Wesley having in their bracket potentially: Ithaca, Johns Hopkins, Christopher Newport, Morrisville St (if they win the NJAC, if Rowan wins it we wont see them), Widener and Delaware Valley. Maybe Hobart and maybe W&J but they always get the privilege of going to Alliance in the first week of the playoffs.

Really excited for this postseason. Saved some cash and will most definitely be at all the playoff games.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 10, 2014, 07:14:33 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 10, 2014, 12:20:28 PM
It'll be interesting to see how everything plays out this weekend for Wesley on the national stage. If they get out of Charlotte with a win (or even if they lose perhaps) and Mount holds off JCU, I dont see us matching up with MHB until Salem, as Wesley will get shipped off to the "east" bracket with the winner of that taking on the winner of the UWW (probably?) bracket, or Mount Union bracket depending on how the committee decides to go.

Teams I see Wesley having in their bracket potentially: Ithaca, Johns Hopkins, Christopher Newport, Morrisville St (if they win the NJAC, if Rowan wins it we wont see them), Widener and Delaware Valley. Maybe Hobart and maybe W&J but they always get the privilege of going to Alliance in the first week of the playoffs.

Really excited for this postseason. Saved some cash and will most definitely be at all the playoff games.

I am not sure if Wesley gets a 1 spot.  I just hope they are not in the same bracket as UMHB.  I want them both to have a chance to get to the Stagg, just like they did last year.  I agree this is going to be fun.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on November 10, 2014, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 10, 2014, 07:14:33 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 10, 2014, 12:20:28 PM
It'll be interesting to see how everything plays out this weekend for Wesley on the national stage. If they get out of Charlotte with a win (or even if they lose perhaps) and Mount holds off JCU, I dont see us matching up with MHB until Salem, as Wesley will get shipped off to the "east" bracket with the winner of that taking on the winner of the UWW (probably?) bracket, or Mount Union bracket depending on how the committee decides to go.

Teams I see Wesley having in their bracket potentially: Ithaca, Johns Hopkins, Christopher Newport, Morrisville St (if they win the NJAC, if Rowan wins it we wont see them), Widener and Delaware Valley. Maybe Hobart and maybe W&J but they always get the privilege of going to Alliance in the first week of the playoffs.

Really excited for this postseason. Saved some cash and will most definitely be at all the playoff games.

I am not sure if Wesley gets a 1 spot.  I just hope they are not in the same bracket as UMHB.  I want them both to have a chance to get to the Stagg, just like they did last year.  I agree this is going to be fun.

I'm guessing you will get your wish, whether Wesley is a 1 or a 2. My guess they divide up the D3football top 10 like this:

UWW
Wesley
Wartburg
Linfield
Johns Hopkins

Mount
UMHB
Hobart
John Carroll
Wheaton

My hunch is regardless of how the teams are actually seeded (due to criteria), there is a pretty good awareness that Wesley is a Top Four team.  Either way, I don't see UWW and Mount on the same side of the bracket.  And there is no reason to put both UMHB and Wesley together on either of their sides. If Wesley and Wartburg are close in the committee's eyes just stick them together on the UW-W side and let's play ball!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 11, 2014, 10:31:39 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 10, 2014, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 10, 2014, 07:14:33 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 10, 2014, 12:20:28 PM
It'll be interesting to see how everything plays out this weekend for Wesley on the national stage. If they get out of Charlotte with a win (or even if they lose perhaps) and Mount holds off JCU, I dont see us matching up with MHB until Salem, as Wesley will get shipped off to the "east" bracket with the winner of that taking on the winner of the UWW (probably?) bracket, or Mount Union bracket depending on how the committee decides to go.

Teams I see Wesley having in their bracket potentially: Ithaca, Johns Hopkins, Christopher Newport, Morrisville St (if they win the NJAC, if Rowan wins it we wont see them), Widener and Delaware Valley. Maybe Hobart and maybe W&J but they always get the privilege of going to Alliance in the first week of the playoffs.

Really excited for this postseason. Saved some cash and will most definitely be at all the playoff games.

I am not sure if Wesley gets a 1 spot.  I just hope they are not in the same bracket as UMHB.  I want them both to have a chance to get to the Stagg, just like they did last year.  I agree this is going to be fun.

I'm guessing you will get your wish, whether Wesley is a 1 or a 2. My guess they divide up the D3football top 10 like this:

UWW
Wesley
Wartburg
Linfield
Johns Hopkins

Mount
UMHB
Hobart
John Carroll
Wheaton

My hunch is regardless of how the teams are actually seeded (due to criteria), there is a pretty good awareness that Wesley is a Top Four team.  Either way, I don't see UWW and Mount on the same side of the bracket.  And there is no reason to put both UMHB and Wesley together on either of their sides. If Wesley and Wartburg are close in the committee's eyes just stick them together on the UW-W side and let's play ball!
How close do you guys think Wesley and Wartburg will be? Was looking at the Wartburg schedule I don't think they have any RROs (unless I'm wrong), and their SOS dropped down in the 40s. I think the edge goes to Wesley in that kind of situation, especially if they beat Charlotte.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 11, 2014, 10:39:34 AM
I didn't think it was close personally.  I think Wesley gets a #1 if they win out.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: GillCJ1 on November 11, 2014, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: Teamski on November 11, 2014, 10:39:34 AM
I didn't think it was close personally.  I think Wesley gets a #1 if they win out.

-Ski

This is my assumption as well.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 11, 2014, 02:36:14 PM
Besides Wartburg, I do not know who else may sneak out with a #1 seed besides Wesley, unless the committee goes with Widener/Del Val or Hobart.

Also, word from Charlotte's camp is that their starter Matt Johnson is back at practice, but their HC is not "ready to put him back in the fire." So it sounds like their backup QB McNeill will get the nod again this week v. Wesley.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 12, 2014, 09:06:52 PM
Interesting week for Wesley in the RRs. They jump MHB. Thoughts? Things are looking very good for a 1 seed.

And Rowan moves into the east regional rankings which makes Wesley 2-0 vs. RROs.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 12, 2014, 11:08:10 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 12, 2014, 09:06:52 PM
Interesting week for Wesley in the RRs. They jump MHB. Thoughts? Things are looking very good for a 1 seed.

And Rowan moves into the east regional rankings which makes Wesley 2-0 vs. RROs.

Now that IS a development!  Let's hope Wesley pulls off the win this weekend to cement that standing!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 13, 2014, 11:53:21 AM
Unfortunately this does not apply to my area but, Wesley will be NATIONALLY TELEVISED this weekend.
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t1.0-9/954691_734788489941324_9136752407734344810_n.jpg?oh=7e432a44a047a17f1407a2dcfb9f005e&oe=551E4DB1)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 13, 2014, 12:31:23 PM
Ahhh crud.  My cable doesn't get the Baltimore channel.  On the computer it is......  :'(  Thanks for posting though!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gowesley on November 13, 2014, 02:25:12 PM
Where did you find a link to this list of affiliates picking up the game?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 13, 2014, 03:57:26 PM
Quote from: gowesley on November 13, 2014, 02:25:12 PM
Where did you find a link to this list of affiliates picking up the game?
Someone posted it on Charlottes Message Board (ninernation.net). It was floating around on Twitter too.

It was only an image, so I dont know if there was more to the table.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 13, 2014, 08:18:30 PM
I was wondering if Wesley would be seeded 1, but after this weeks regional rankings it looks like they are in line to be one of the 4 top seeds.  It surprised me to see it, but it is nice.  I have said this is the best Wesley team I have seen since I started following them in 2005.  The offense is really good, but the difference seems to be the defense and that is what wins playoff games once you get to the final 8.  Sunday will be fun to see how it lines up.  The projected bracket on the front page looks like they should easily make the final 8 and I dont think any of the other 4 can beat them, so the semis are well within reach.  Maybe they finally get over the hump and make the Stagg.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 13, 2014, 09:33:03 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 13, 2014, 08:18:30 PM
I was wondering if Wesley would be seeded 1, but after this weeks regional rankings it looks like they are in line to be one of the 4 top seeds.  It surprised me to see it, but it is nice.  I have said this is the best Wesley team I have seen since I started following them in 2005.  The offense is really good, but the difference seems to be the defense and that is what wins playoff games once you get to the final 8.  Sunday will be fun to see how it lines up.  The projected bracket on the front page looks like they should easily make the final 8 and I dont think any of the other 4 can beat them, so the semis are well within reach.  Maybe they finally get over the hump and make the Stagg.

I've paid a great deal of attention to Wesley this year -- I certainly feel like this is Wesley's year..  Now, I'm not saying they'll win the Walnut & Bronze -- I'm saying this is their best chance and I feel like they'll capitalize and will go as far as they want to go. 

I told Hscoach this same thing in an email this week.  I know you have the purple powers but this is Wesley's best shot. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 14, 2014, 12:09:08 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 13, 2014, 08:18:30 PM
I was wondering if Wesley would be seeded 1, but after this weeks regional rankings it looks like they are in line to be one of the 4 top seeds.  It surprised me to see it, but it is nice.  I have said this is the best Wesley team I have seen since I started following them in 2005.  The offense is really good, but the difference seems to be the defense and that is what wins playoff games once you get to the final 8.  Sunday will be fun to see how it lines up.  The projected bracket on the front page looks like they should easily make the final 8 and I dont think any of the other 4 can beat them, so the semis are well within reach.  Maybe they finally get over the hump and make the Stagg.

From your typing fingers to God's ears  ;D  Other improvements this year are the relative lack of injured players at this point in the year and quality depth at running back.  If we can keep the turnovers to a minimum this could be a very special playoff run.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 14, 2014, 08:38:16 AM
We can only hope!  I agree that this is the best rounded team I have seen so far.  I just hope that they keep the penalties to a minimum, something Wesley did really well last year.  Keep your fingers crossed that Wesley gets through the Charlotte game without injuries. 

By the way, Charlotte posted the game notes this morning:

http://www.charlotte49ers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=590213&SPID=72735&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=209764023&DB_OEM_ID=23200

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 08:34:25 AM
 
<<< GAMEDAY!!!  GAMEDAY!!! GAMEDAY!!!  GAMEDAY!!! GAMEDAY!!! GAMEDAY!!! >>>

Its been a long two weeks.  Now to see if Wesley can pull off the upset once again!  Go Wolverines!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 15, 2014, 11:22:22 AM
Already coughed up the $10....ready for this one!

I think Wesley has this one as long as they play a relatively clean game and control the ball on offense to keep Charlotte's O off the field.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 11:23:35 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 15, 2014, 11:22:22 AM
Already coughed up the $10....ready for this one!

I think Wesley has this one as long as they play a relatively clean game and control the ball on offense to keep Charlotte's O off the field.

Me too.  Watched the pregame interview with the Charlotte coach.  They want to win this one. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 15, 2014, 11:28:01 AM
Quote from: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 11:23:35 AM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 15, 2014, 11:22:22 AM
Already coughed up the $10....ready for this one!

I think Wesley has this one as long as they play a relatively clean game and control the ball on offense to keep Charlotte's O off the field.

Me too.  Watched the pregame interview with the Charlotte coach.  They want to win this one. 

-Ski
Extra bye week has to help Wesley I would think. Need to keep the foot on the gas too. Charlotte's O gets better as the game goes on.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2014, 11:54:47 AM
Sweet! Wesley game is on TV here in Newport News!  I'm gonna watch and be a huge Wesley fan!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 12:15:59 PM
A long TD pass and Wesley ties the game 7-7.  Sweet play!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 12:24:05 PM
Excellent start!  Wesley converts a Charlotte fumble for a beautiful TD pass.  14-7.  Good stuff so far.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 15, 2014, 12:28:20 PM
Wish I could get it here in Texas.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 12:39:49 PM
Some poor penalties and an interception has Charlotte deep in Wesley's territory.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 12:42:26 PM
14-14 in the 1st.  Mistakes cost Wesley on that one.  So far, I am really impressed with how Wesley is matching up.  The D has had some great TFL's so far.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 15, 2014, 12:49:10 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 12:42:26 PM
14-14 in the 1st.  Mistakes cost Wesley on that one.  So far, I am really impressed with how Wesley is matching up.  The D has had some great TFL's so far.

-Ski
Some huge hits too. Impressed on that 4th down stand. Khalif Phillips is the real deal. A definite D1 back.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 15, 2014, 12:50:38 PM
 I googled the game and got it free
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 15, 2014, 12:51:07 PM

The boys are doing well
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 12:54:33 PM
A very nice drive down the field puts Wesley up 21-14 in the 2nd.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: GillCJ1 on November 15, 2014, 12:58:33 PM
Good luck fellas.  Do D-III proud.   :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 15, 2014, 12:59:51 PM
the zone is not doing it
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 01:02:49 PM
A long drive by Charlotte nets them another TD, 21-21.  Charlotte's Phillips over 100 yard for the half.  My concern from the start.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 15, 2014, 01:07:42 PM
 Chip really opening up the playbook
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 01:16:30 PM
Charlotte really has the Wesley defense on its heels.  They ran down the field and are up 28-21.  The momentum has certainly shifted at this point late in the 2nd.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 01:34:49 PM
Wesley salvages a last minute field goal and trails at the half 24-28.  They get the ball first thing in the second half.  Except for penalties and the defense getting burned on the run at times, Wesley has been really impressive.  They are certainly showing how good DIII can be.  I hope that they can continue to match up with Charlotte in the second half.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 15, 2014, 01:43:02 PM
Defensive issues are same as earlier in the year (LA college maybe??), that when D-line can't get good pressure the secondary gets killed.  In DLines defense they aren't playing too bad given the size of Charlotte's OLine as they are ginormous. Impressed with how Callahan's been able to extend some plays with his feet, and Baynard's been running pretty well.  Ready to finish strong. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 15, 2014, 01:43:42 PM
Hopefully Wesley can start to throw downfield. Need to get George and Koudossou in the game.

IMO, Charlotte compares easily to the top in D3. Great test for Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 15, 2014, 01:50:53 PM
Nothing to do with anything, but I had to laugh that they stuck our seats down by the goal line/end zone this year (last year we were right behind the bench near mid field).  Guess they didn't like us taking their money, beating them, AND getting the good seats....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 01:52:05 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 15, 2014, 01:50:53 PM
Nothing to do with anything, but I had to laugh that they stuck our seats down by the goal line/end zone this year (last year we were right behind the bench near mid field).  Guess they didn't like us taking their money, beating them, AND getting the good seats....

LOL!!!!  Enjoying the weather?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 15, 2014, 02:13:19 PM
It's absolutely perfect, but I'll take a monsoon if a win comes with it!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 02:14:02 PM
A Callahan interception deep in Charlotte territory stops their first drive.  Gah.....  Charlotte blocks a punt but is held to a FG.  24-31.  Lost opportunities.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 02:28:47 PM
After a really good kickoff return, Wesley stalls within the 5 yard line of Charlotte and settles for a field goal.  Wesley trailing at the start of the 4th, 27-31 with Charlotte having the ball on their 33 or so.  Not getting those TD's is killing Wesley.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 15, 2014, 02:29:56 PM
Defense keeps needing to stand tall.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 02:39:31 PM
Wonderful.  Charlotte drives down the field and increase their lead with another TD.  27-38 with 12:00 to go.....  :-\

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 02:50:50 PM
Makes you wonder if pulling the starters as much as Wesley did during the season is affecting their stamina in this game.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 15, 2014, 03:22:55 PM
Missed opportunities in the red zone. You can't get dropped in any ranking losing to a team like Charlotte.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
Well, I enjoyed the game.  Wesley falls short 33-38.  The Wolverines had three shots at the endzone that they couldn't convert to TD's and that really was where the game was lost.  That said, I think Wesley played the best they could against a team they were outsized along the lines.  They could not have had a better game to presage the 2014 DIII Playoffs.  They got their tough game of the season and that will bode well for the Quarters and the semis.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 15, 2014, 03:29:42 PM
It was nice to be able to watch a D3 team on tv. Would have liked to have seen Wesley win, but it was an excellent game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: GillCJ1 on November 15, 2014, 03:31:20 PM
Shame about the end result, but y'all put up a great fight.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 15, 2014, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
Well, I enjoyed the game.  Wesley falls short 33-38.  The Wolverines had three shots at the endzone that they couldn't convert to TD's and that really was where the game was lost.  That said, I think Wesley played the best they could against a team they were outsized along the lines.  They could not have had a better game to presage the 2014 DIII Playoffs.  They got their tough game of the season and that will bode well for the Quarters and the semis.....

-Ski
There SHOULD be no playoff repercussions from this game. Wesley really kinda missed some opportunities to a team that had 65 reasons to beat them (scholarships). Overall it was a good effort, the D played better as the game went on. Nice to see a test like this before we go to somewhere like Alliance.

Looking at the players body language after the game, and I think they are very disappointed to lose this one. Definitely will light a fire the rest of the way. Hopefully we stayed healthy.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 15, 2014, 05:03:20 PM
Listened to the game while I was Widener's game.  Sounded like the officials missed some stuff that changed things a little according to Sean.  Nonetheless, a strong showing after not having played a tough game pretty much all season.  Team seems set up to make a deep run and with the other results today, UWW and Mount barely winning, maybe things can change a little in D3 this year.  Wesley and UMHB will need to get it done.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 05:27:19 PM
Wesley won the tale of the tape and led Charlotte in just about every stat except the one that counted.  I agree, not too bad a showing.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 15, 2014, 05:53:17 PM
Good game for getting back in the groove and to get ready for when it really counts. Think it was really the size of UNCCs lines that did us in as our D-line couldn't get as much pressure up front consistently and O-line looked a little worn down late in the game. Can't imagine we'll see that kind of size again. Officiating wasn't the best but seemed pretty consistent at not calling much. Really thought targeting call on Wescott was crap, but I hate that rule anyway (get that players have to be protected but think its called too often when there's no intent to harm). He was having a really good game up to then. Looking forward to seeing the brackets and am hoping and praying to go far. This is a very special group and I hope they finally get to take this to the next step.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 06:31:06 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 15, 2014, 05:53:17 PM
Good game for getting back in the groove and to get ready for when it really counts. Think it was really the size of UNCCs lines that did us in as our D-line couldn't get as much pressure up front consistently and O-line looked a little worn down late in the game. Can't imagine we'll see that kind of size again. Officiating wasn't the best but seemed pretty consistent at not calling much. Really thought targeting call on Wescott was crap, but I hate that rule anyway (get that players have to be protected but think its called too often when there's no intent to harm). He was having a really good game up to then. Looking forward to seeing the brackets and am hoping and praying to go far. This is a very special group and I hope they finally get to take this to the next step.

Have a safe trip home! We'll see you at Scott D. Miller Stadium next Saturday!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bleedpurple on November 15, 2014, 06:51:16 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 15, 2014, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 15, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
Well, I enjoyed the game.  Wesley falls short 33-38.  The Wolverines had three shots at the endzone that they couldn't convert to TD's and that really was where the game was lost.  That said, I think Wesley played the best they could against a team they were outsized along the lines.  They could not have had a better game to presage the 2014 DIII Playoffs.  They got their tough game of the season and that will bode well for the Quarters and the semis.....

-Ski
There SHOULD be no playoff repercussions from this game. Wesley really kinda missed some opportunities to a team that had 65 reasons to beat them (scholarships). Overall it was a good effort, the D played better as the game went on. Nice to see a test like this before we go to somewhere like Alliance.

Looking at the players body language after the game, and I think they are very disappointed to lose this one. Definitely will light a fire the rest of the way. Hopefully we stayed healthy.

Noooo. Unless it is a positive one. Although I didn't see it, given the competition, it seems like it was a great performance.  I think coming into the weekend, most would have expected Wesley to have home field until the semi's and then travel to UW-W or Mount, IF the brackets hold (meaning neither UW-W or Mount loses).   I would guess that scenario holds after this weekend.  But, I've been surprised before. The National Committee has their work cut out for them. Some pretty surprising results in the Top 25.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 16, 2014, 11:23:44 AM
Wesleydad - what are your thoughts on Widener, and how they would match up against Wesley (guess we'll know in a few hours if that's a possibility)?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 11:33:38 AM
Seen them play twice.  They are ok and I don't think they match up at all with Wesley.  The secondary is average and was beat deep several times in both games I saw but the QB missed the throw.  I figure Wesley would score easily in the 30's or more.  The offense is ok, the QB is spotty, but they do have a top receiver that Wesley would have to shut down.  I don't thing they could run the ball much so I would give them at best 14 - 17 points.  I think if the D3 brackets hold, John Carroll beats them.  The Hopkins game will be interesting to me.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 16, 2014, 01:38:27 PM
Congrats on the showing at UNCC.

Tough loss!

Glad you will be in the NJAC next year.  That will be a great conference!   I like the East Region Shuffle!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2014, 01:45:42 PM
 I liked the new wrinkles in the offence yesterday. Adding that bootleg is going to start holding outside covers up and I can see that opening receivers.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2014, 01:47:52 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 16, 2014, 01:38:27 PM
Congrats on the showing at UNCC.

Tough loss!

Glad you will be in the NJAC next year.  That will be a great conference!   I like the East Region Shuffle!

Wesley will only have to get one team to play each year now!!

Ralph

What do you think this does to the regional shifts if any'
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 16, 2014, 05:18:57 PM
In the small world department Ralph,

I was talking with one our younger teachers at an inservice day and it turns out that she is a McMurry grad. In fact, she was at the same game I went to in Abilene back in 2009. Too funny. Hope you are well friend.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 16, 2014, 06:31:52 PM
Its finally here! Wesley v. Hampden-Sydney next weekend in Dover! Lets get after it. They just need to play clean, solid games of football and I like Wesley's chances this time around if they can.

Who has the scouting report on HSC?

Also, the person hosting the show when introducing Wesley's bracket said: "Getting the hosting duties is Wesley" or something along those lines. Does that mean Wesley is seeded above Mount Union? Just the wording of it was weird.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 16, 2014, 06:32:51 PM
I won't proclaim to know too much about the other schools in our part of the bracket, but looks to me like we've been treated very favorably based on a quick look at possible opponents' scores & schedules.  The potential rematch with Johns Hopkins should be a really good game.  I'm sure they're anxious to come back at us after last year's nail biter.

Thought it interesting that John Carroll should be going back up against Mt. Union after such a hearbreaker yesterday.   Not sure whether to hope they can knock them out, or that I'd like to have the chance to finally beat them ourselves.....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 16, 2014, 06:34:22 PM
Probably head back to Alliance should we reach the semis. One game at a time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
Watched HSU a couple of times.  They have an ok QB and not much else.  They do not run the ball well and got beat handily by a Bridgewater team that I thought was just ok when I saw them.  They will have trouble dealing with Wesley's speed on both sides of the ball and will struggle scoring.  The next game is nothing more than a scrimmage, like the Mt. Ida game a few years ago.  The winner of the Hobart/Hopkins game could be a competitive game.  Then on to Mount or John Carroll likely.  Could not be an easier road to the semis since I have started watching them in 2005.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger74 on November 17, 2014, 12:21:02 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
Watched HSU HSC a couple of times.  They have an ok QB and not much else.  They do not run the ball well and got beat handily by a Bridgewater team that I thought was just ok when I saw them.  They will have trouble dealing with Wesley's speed on both sides of the ball and will struggle scoring.  The next game is nothing more than a scrimmage, like the Mt. Ida game a few years ago.  The winner of the Hobart/Hopkins game could be a competitive game.  Then on to Mount or John Carroll likely.  Could not be an easier road to the semis since I have started watching them in 2005.

    Fixed that for you wd. Unfortunately, that was the only part that needed fixing.
   I'll be pulling for the Tigers, of course, but let's just say that isn't where I'd put my money if someone forced me to bet.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 17, 2014, 08:34:32 AM
Yep, one game at a time.  Wesley can't afford to look past any opponent no matter how well the bracket lined up for them.  As mentioned, both Hobart and Johns Hopkins gave Wesley all they could handle the last time the Wolverines played both teams.  If Wesley keeps their focus and composure, we could be in for a real treat this year....but one game at a time.  Luckily, Coach Drass and company stresses that each and every game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on November 17, 2014, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on November 17, 2014, 12:21:02 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
Watched HSU HSC a couple of times.  They have an ok QB and not much else.  They do not run the ball well and got beat handily by a Bridgewater team that I thought was just ok when I saw them.  They will have trouble dealing with Wesley's speed on both sides of the ball and will struggle scoring.  The next game is nothing more than a scrimmage, like the Mt. Ida game a few years ago.  The winner of the Hobart/Hopkins game could be a competitive game.  Then on to Mount or John Carroll likely.  Could not be an easier road to the semis since I have started watching them in 2005.

    Fixed that for you wd. Unfortunately, that was the only part that needed fixing.
   I'll be pulling for the Tigers, of course, but let's just say that isn't where I'd put my money if someone forced me to bet.

I know the regular season was disappointing for the Tigers but they have an excellent quarterback and veteran D. The receiver Walker is great too but I understand he was out last week against RMC. Any word on him for this week? The coaching staff is imaginative and creative too. They can look it as "Oh Sh%4," or we have a great opportunity despite the adversity. I'm sure they are choosing the later option.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 17, 2014, 01:16:26 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 17, 2014, 08:34:32 AM
Yep, one game at a time.  Wesley can't afford to look past any opponent no matter how well the bracket lined up for them.  As mentioned, both Hobart and Johns Hopkins gave Wesley all they could handle the last time the Wolverines played both teams.  If Wesley keeps their focus and composure, we could be in for a real treat this year....but one game at a time.  Luckily, Coach Drass and company stresses that each and every game.

-Ski

I'd love to be able to say my alma mater lost to the eventual National Champs by 15 in the season opener.  Go Wesley. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 17, 2014, 05:27:56 PM
I'm excited!  I started my annual playoff beard this weekend!   :D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 19, 2014, 02:04:08 PM
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/brains-some-brawn-engineers-perfect-season-at-mit-111914#livefyre

Just in case Wesley wins (have to play the game!!) and MIT wins.

I guess it is a good story, but there must 25 teams better than MIT that didn't make it into the playoffs that didn't get huge write up in a national rag.

Best of luck to them.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on November 19, 2014, 02:08:20 PM
Quote from: dedragon on November 19, 2014, 02:04:08 PM
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/brains-some-brawn-engineers-perfect-season-at-mit-111914#livefyre

Just in case Wesley wins (have to play the game!!) and MIT wins.

I guess it is a good story, but there must 25 teams better than MIT that didn't make it into the playoffs that didn't get huge write up in a national rag.

Best of luck to them.

Privilege of the novelty...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 19, 2014, 05:00:04 PM
Love the team capsules for the playoffs.  Great job by D3 giving us a look into each of the teams still playing.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 19, 2014, 07:23:30 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2014, 01:47:52 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 16, 2014, 01:38:27 PM
Congrats on the showing at UNCC.

Tough loss!

Glad you will be in the NJAC next year.  That will be a great conference!   I like the East Region Shuffle!

Wesley will only have to get one team to play each year now!!

Ralph

What do you think this does to the regional shifts if any'
Wesley moves to the East Region.  I think that the East passes the South Region in strength.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger fan on November 19, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
Watched HSU a couple of times.  They have an ok QB and not much else.  They do not run the ball well and got beat handily by a Bridgewater team that I thought was just ok when I saw them.  They will have trouble dealing with Wesley's speed on both sides of the ball and will struggle scoring.  The next game is nothing more than a scrimmage, like the Mt. Ida game a few years ago.  The winner of the Hobart/Hopkins game could be a competitive game.  Then on to Mount or John Carroll likely.  Could not be an easier road to the semis since I have started watching them in 2005.

Your assessment lost a level of credibility when you called HSC - HSU an excusable mistake. But to say they have an "ok QB and not much else" is laughable.  They have an All-American QB and WR.  Holton Walker may be the best and most highly rated WR in all of D3.  He is the only receiver in D3 listed as an NFL prospect on www.NFLDraftDiamonds.com. Wesley does not have the benefit of having a coach that has played HSC year in and year out like RMC and BC.  Wabash had all spring and fall camp to get ready for HSC.  Wesley has had 5 days.

We know the odds are against our team. We know the likelihood of victory is slim to none.  HSC is a senior laden team. They are not going to go to Dover to just lay down in front of Wesley.  It may get ugly. But I think Wesley will have a more difficult time than they and you might think.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 19, 2014, 07:26:50 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on November 16, 2014, 05:18:57 PM
In the small world department Ralph,

I was talking with one our younger teachers at an inservice day and it turns out that she is a McMurry grad. In fact, she was at the same game I went to in Abilene back in 2009. Too funny. Hope you are well friend.
;) I will bet the common factor is the USAF!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 19, 2014, 09:46:41 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on November 19, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
Watched HSU a couple of times.  They have an ok QB and not much else.  They do not run the ball well and got beat handily by a Bridgewater team that I thought was just ok when I saw them.  They will have trouble dealing with Wesley's speed on both sides of the ball and will struggle scoring.  The next game is nothing more than a scrimmage, like the Mt. Ida game a few years ago.  The winner of the Hobart/Hopkins game could be a competitive game.  Then on to Mount or John Carroll likely.  Could not be an easier road to the semis since I have started watching them in 2005.

Your assessment lost a level of credibility when you called HSC - HSU an excusable mistake. But to say they have an "ok QB and not much else" is laughable.  They have an All-American QB and WR.  Holton Walker may be the best and most highly rated WR in all of D3.  He is the only receiver in D3 listed as an NFL prospect on www.NFLDraftDiamonds.com. Wesley does not have the benefit of having a coach that has played HSC year in and year out like RMC and BC.  Wabash had all spring and fall camp to get ready for HSC.  Wesley has had 5 days.

We know the odds are against our team. We know the likelihood of victory is slim to none.  HSC is a senior laden team. They are not going to go to Dover to just lay down in front of Wesley.  It may get ugly. But I think Wesley will have a more difficult time than they and you might think.

Watched the first half of the R-MC game and saw your QB and WR, but I was most impressed with your big Middle Linebacker #55.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger fan on November 19, 2014, 11:40:50 PM
I don't know what game you watched. #55 plays DL.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 20, 2014, 06:49:33 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on November 19, 2014, 11:40:50 PM
I don't know what game you watched. #55 plays DL.

Your DL plays 4 yards deep?  ::)

Thanks for playing.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger fan on November 20, 2014, 07:13:05 AM
Laugh all you want. Our guys will give great effort this weekend. Maybe that won't be enough but I assure you these guys have never gone into a game expecting anything other than winning. They don't care that you are Wesley.  It's just another team.  Will they win?  Maybe not. Can they win - yes.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 20, 2014, 08:54:20 AM
Yeah, that was a cheap shot on my part. I thought it would get some talking going.

But seriously, what I did see looked like a team that was beat up a bit.  That happens when you have parity in a conference (kind of like the WIAC).

R-MC got good pressure on your QB all day forcing him to throw early and stick to the short routes. If you can't loosen Wesley up by driving them deep, we have three LB's that are going to knock the lights out of the short crossers. Considering R-MC brought 5 or more, that opened up those short routes due to 1 on 1 coverage. Wesley will bring that same pressure with only their front four and play zone behind lying in wait for those guys.

I hope all your horses are good to go for Saturday. Anything to share on that?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger fan on November 20, 2014, 10:46:42 AM
My add is that we find ourselves in the opposite position we are typically in. Every ODAC team for the last several years has their date with HSC circled. We get every ODAC teams best shot. This group of seniors has 3 ODAC championships. They have been thru tough games. This game may very well be their toughest yet. But I have a feeling when the pairings were announce on Sunday more than half the Wesley team said "who's that". Heck they assumed a win before the game was announced. What they may not realize is that HSC felt the same way about Wesley. Many had no idea as to who Wesley was, where they are located, and how good there are. They like Wesley just assumed they can win. I doubt that attitude has changed for either team. I  know if HSC were to win it will be a huge upset. But I was in the Big House when App St beat Michigan. So I've seen with my own eyes what can happen when the better team looks ahead and the weaker team plays lights out.  You guys are already talking about 3rd and 4th round match-ups. We like that kind of thinking. Especially when our entire mindset is this Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2014, 11:17:48 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on November 19, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Wabash had all spring and fall camp to get ready for HSC.  Wesley has had 5 days.

Didn't seem to be a big issue in 2007:
http://www.d3football.com/teams/Wesley/2007/index
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2014, 11:19:15 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on November 19, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Your assessment lost a level of credibility when you called HSC - HSU an excusable mistake.

Ahem ...

Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 16, 2014, 03:57:02 PM
Heven forbod ther's evr y typo.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2014, 11:28:07 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on November 20, 2014, 10:46:42 AM
My add is that we find ourselves in the opposite position we are typically in. Every ODAC team for the last several years has their date with HSC circled. We get every ODAC teams best shot. This group of seniors has 3 ODAC championships. They have been thru tough games. This game may very well be their toughest yet. But I have a feeling when the pairings were announce on Sunday more than half the Wesley team said "who's that". Heck they assumed a win before the game was announced. What they may not realize is that HSC felt the same way about Wesley. Many had no idea as to who Wesley was, where they are located, and how good there are. They like Wesley just assumed they can win. I doubt that attitude has changed for either team. I  know if HSC were to win it will be a huge upset. But I was in the Big House when App St beat Michigan. So I've seen with my own eyes what can happen when the better team looks ahead and the weaker team plays lights out.  You guys are already talking about 3rd and 4th round match-ups. We like that kind of thinking. Especially when our entire mindset is this Saturday.

Having spent a lot of time traveling with the Wolverines, I know that when it comes to the playoffs, the motto is always "one more."  The coaches and the players never overlook a playoff game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 20, 2014, 11:40:31 AM
Going to Linfield last year HSC was upbeat, coming off a great end to the season, won its first playoff game ever and was healthy. This year, not so much. Season didn't end well and not so healthy BUT HSC will give all they have to give. Last time we were at Wesley, 2007, we got beat 45 to 17 in first round. Everybody knows HSC doesn't have much of a chance and would be foolish to act/talk otherwise, but if the favorite won every game there really would not be any reason to play the game. Elite teams don't lose often (other than to each other) but upsets of the elite do happen (although I really can't think of one in D3), and thats all HSC have to hang their hats on. Play your best and see what happends, lay an egg and get blown out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger fan on November 20, 2014, 12:04:54 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2014, 11:17:48 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on November 19, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Wabash

You mean when the players for each team were as young as 11?  No it sure didn't. But that was HSC's first ODAC title under coach Favret. Lots of things have changed since then. I've said it most likely won't matter. But we have to play the game regardless what you or anyone else thinks the outcome might be.

Maybe you guys at D3 can start writing your headline that throws Nance under the bus before the game is played. It might be you last chance to take a shot a him.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2014, 12:10:23 PM
Yeah -- I don't get why you think we want to throw our second-team preseason All-American quarterback under the bus. I don't know why you can't get that we're talking about how the opposing defenses actually physically hit and sack him -- if anything, we're pointing out the performance of the opposing defense first, THEN the offensive line, THEN Nance, possibly, third.

I know there have been H-SC fans that have been sensitive to every possibly unfavorable mention of Nance ever since he transferred in, but this isn't what we're doing here.

I look forward to you finding a third platform to bash us on on this subject.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on November 20, 2014, 12:58:58 PM
It has at times seemed like if you didn't declare Nash Nance the second coming a certain part of the H-SC crowd has gotten upset. But it has been an interesting year for Nance. Certainly the team has not done as well as was expected and the stats are mixed on the issue of whether Nance has been better, though he has had every bit an excellent year.

His yards per completion and yards per attempt are up and interceptions are down. Both important and positive numbers. However, his completion percentage is down. Passing TDs are up but rushing numbers are well off across the board. So he's been asked to do more through the air. Sacks are actually down for the year, despite the early beating offered by Wabash, though that could go up in the playoff game. H-SC is still two games short of last year, which is why I'm staying away from absolute yards gained. Finally, Nance's rushing ypg are off. And he only has half the touchdowns rushing he had last year, which seems huge but the Tigers are actually scoring more points per game this year than last anyway.

Again, some of these numbers will move this weekend, and if an upset happens they will be more comparable if you do a 12 game schedule. But for the most part I think Nance has had a similar season to last year's stellar work. The emphasis on passing has probably cost him a bit on his accuracy, but he's really made the most of it and taken care of the ball better. On the other hand, he hasn't been the same dual threat he was last year, especially in the red zone. Overall though, points per game are up, even just comparing across the conference schedule.

So the offense has been very comparable in output, if not in how they got there. Nance is instrumental in that success, given the added emphasis on throwing the ball. The difference between last year and this year in stats and prestige is probably going to be that extra conference loss leading to a tough playoff pairing in conjunction with last year's very favorable first round playoff match up.

The biggest change for the Tigers, though, is defense. They have given up almost 90 more ypg this year than last year. They also are allowing 6 more points per game. Six fewer take aways and 1/3rd as many sacks play a role as well. None of that can be laid at Nance's feet.

** All stats courtesy of the H-SC website **
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2014, 02:35:21 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on November 19, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
Watched HSU a couple of times.  They have an ok QB and not much else.  They do not run the ball well and got beat handily by a Bridgewater team that I thought was just ok when I saw them.  They will have trouble dealing with Wesley's speed on both sides of the ball and will struggle scoring.  The next game is nothing more than a scrimmage, like the Mt. Ida game a few years ago.  The winner of the Hobart/Hopkins game could be a competitive game.  Then on to Mount or John Carroll likely.  Could not be an easier road to the semis since I have started watching them in 2005.

Your assessment lost a level of credibility when you called HSC - HSU an excusable mistake. But to say they have an "ok QB and not much else" is laughable.  They have an All-American QB and WR.  Holton Walker may be the best and most highly rated WR in all of D3.  He is the only receiver in D3 listed as an NFL prospect on www.NFLDraftDiamonds.com. Wesley does not have the benefit of having a coach that has played HSC year in and year out like RMC and BC.  Wabash had all spring and fall camp to get ready for HSC.  Wesley has had 5 days.

We know the odds are against our team. We know the likelihood of victory is slim to none.  HSC is a senior laden team. They are not going to go to Dover to just lay down in front of Wesley.  It may get ugly. But I think Wesley will have a more difficult time than they and you might think.

I keep messing up the HSC - HSU thing.  Now on to the more important stuff.  I am well aware of all the accolades that the HSC players have received and that is great.  I go be the eye test and I saw Bridgewater play against Wash and Lee live and found them to be ok against a not too good team.  The following week I did not go to a game so I decided to watch the Bridgewater/HSC game.  In that game what I said is what I saw an OK Qb with not much else going.  They could not run the ball and they were handily beaten by an ok team.  I know I come across as understating/overstating, depends on how you read it when it come to my assessment of other teams, but I am looking at things on a "can you win the whole thing mentality" since that is what I see when I go watch Wesley.  So with that in mind, I don't think Nance is as good as Callahan and don't waste time with stats.  If HSC had trouble scoring on Bridgewater and Macon then they will certainly have trouble scoring on Wesley.  They will not have played any team as fast as Wesley on either side of the ball at any point this year.  As far as Wesley only having 5 days to get ready for HSC, I don't think that will matter.  They have made it to the 1/4's since 2005 so getting ready for anyone has not been an issue.  Finally, I am not afraid to say where I think Wesley will get to each year in the playoffs so I don't see them having any issue this week or the next 2 for that matter, but I don't play for the team so my looking ahead has nothing to do with the outcome.  I am sure that the coaches will have the players more than ready for anything the HSC will bring to the field on Saturday.  I hope all of your injured players from last week are healthy this week so that they get to play.  Enjoy the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 20, 2014, 03:02:39 PM
WesleyDad

If you watched the Bridgewater vs. HSC game you certainly saw a really bad HSC team that looked absolutely horrible, same thing vs. RMC this past week. So I totally get where you are coming from and would have to agree with your observations.
We stunk it up, really bad at just about every position on the field. Nothing good happened in either of those games, nothing.

I look forward to watching your team play. Sounds like they are loaded and ready to challenge this year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2014, 04:20:06 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on November 20, 2014, 03:02:39 PM
WesleyDad

If you watched the Bridgewater vs. HSC game you certainly saw a really bad HSC team that looked absolutely horrible, same thing vs. RMC this past week. So I totally get where you are coming from and would have to agree with your observations.
We stunk it up, really bad at just about every position on the field. Nothing good happened in either of those games, nothing.

I look forward to watching your team play. Sounds like they are loaded and ready to challenge this year.

So you are going to make the game?

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2014, 04:21:06 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 20, 2014, 12:58:58 PM
It has at times seemed like if you didn't declare Nash Nance the second coming a certain part of the H-SC crowd has gotten upset.

This. Exactly. +1
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 20, 2014, 04:55:05 PM
Teamski

Will make the drive to Dover to support the Tigers !!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2014, 05:17:27 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on November 20, 2014, 04:55:05 PM
Teamski

Will make the drive to Dover to support the Tigers !!!

Hope to catch you there.  I will be on the wide camera on top of the press box......

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 20, 2014, 05:20:28 PM
HSC posted their game notes....

http://hscathletics.com/sports/fball/2014-15/notes/11.22.14_WC.pdf

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2014, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on November 20, 2014, 04:55:05 PM
Teamski

Will make the drive to Dover to support the Tigers !!!

Tigerfanalso, I hope to see you there also.  I will be wearing a wesley football 13 sweatshirt, since it will be a little chilly this weekend.  safe travels to dover.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 20, 2014, 10:25:22 PM
Welcome Tiger fans - having some chatter on the board makes this much more fun.  Won't pose as an expert on your team as I haven't seen film, but from comments here and a cursory review of your stats it would appear the best chance for HSC's success would be to put together a solid passing game and control time of possession to keep Wesley's offense off the field.  Wesley's secondary can be vulnerable if the D-Line doesn't get good pressure, but has something of a "bend, don't break" philosophy.   Bring it on, and may the best team win. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger fan on November 20, 2014, 10:36:12 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 20, 2014, 10:25:22 PM
Welcome Tiger fans - having some chatter on the board makes this much more fun.  Won't pose as an expert on your team as I haven't seen film, but from comments here and a cursory review of your stats it would appear the best chance for HSC's success would be to put together a solid passing game and control time of possession to keep Wesley's offense off the field.  Wesley's secondary can be vulnerable if the D-Line doesn't get good pressure, but has something of a "bend, don't break" philosophy.   Bring it on, and may the best team win. 

We are not delusional enough to think we have the best team. So we hope the next to best team wins!   We don't have a shot unless we can create (many) turnovers on defense and play perfect on offense. Then it might be close.  I agree that our best defense will be to keep the Wesley offense off the field. Sounds so easy. But with the defense you guys have easier said than done.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: jknezek on November 21, 2014, 08:55:12 AM
H-SC's best chance to win is for Wesley to pull one of it's occasional implosions. The Tigers are a nice team, Nance is very good, although he's had a few bad games, but as many have said they aren't going to win straight up against Wesley. Penalties, turnovers, and poor execution are what H-SC needs from Wesley. Whether they get it, who knows. Walker didn't play much against R-MC. If he sits again, or is not as his best, this game will be much less entertaining...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 21, 2014, 09:03:15 AM
http://wdel.com/story.php?id=64221

Interview with Coach Drass before H-SC.

So excited for playoff football.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 21, 2014, 12:01:41 PM
Watching the R-MC vs. H-SC game again.

Best radio quote ever when R-MC (Byrd) scores their second TD in the game (3rdQ):

"... he showed almost no speed, but gets in for the touchdown..."

Nice.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 21, 2014, 01:06:01 PM
Quote from: dedragon on November 21, 2014, 12:01:41 PM
Watching the R-MC vs. H-SC game again.

Best radio quote ever when R-MC (Byrd) scores their second TD in the game (3rdQ):

"... he showed almost no speed, but gets in for the touchdown..."

Nice.

Ahhh!  Thanks for the heads up on the video.  I am watching it now.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 21, 2014, 01:25:09 PM
Heading to Dover soon. See you all there!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 21, 2014, 02:10:25 PM
safe travels waterboy.  going to be a little chilly tomorrow.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2014, 08:10:06 AM
Game day.  Bright sunshine with a sharp chill in the air.  I am sure the wind is blowing in Dover as it always does.  Great day for a football game.  Play mistake free and avoid the penalty bug and I think Wesley wins this game handily, 40 - 50 to 7 - 14.  I watched the first half of the Sydney/Macon game and HSC looks really beat up.  If their top receiver and defensive players can not go today the task will be that much harder.  See you at the game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 22, 2014, 09:16:03 AM
Seems like just yesterday it was August and we were chomping at the bit to get the season started. Think we've all been very pleased with what we've seen since then and are ready to get this post season off to a strong start. Let's go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2014, 09:38:24 AM
It's all in the hands of the Wolverines now.  We can only hope and cheer that they can finally break the semi-finals duck this year.  Chapter 1 starts today.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on November 22, 2014, 11:55:14 AM
Quote from: dedragon on November 21, 2014, 12:01:41 PM
Watching the R-MC vs. H-SC game again.

Best radio quote ever when R-MC (Byrd) scores their second TD in the game (3rdQ):

"... he showed almost no speed, but gets in for the touchdown..."

Nice.

That is very funny! Where is this video?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2014, 04:31:09 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on November 22, 2014, 11:55:14 AM
Quote from: dedragon on November 21, 2014, 12:01:41 PM
Watching the R-MC vs. H-SC game again.

Best radio quote ever when R-MC (Byrd) scores their second TD in the game (3rdQ):

"... he showed almost no speed, but gets in for the touchdown..."

Nice.

That is very funny! Where is this video?

http://hampdensydney.prestosports.com/sports/fball/2014-15/videos/111514-game
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2014, 04:53:18 PM
Well, on the regular clock the first quarter took 50 mins.  I am sure it seemed longer than that for HSC.  Total domination in the first quarter with 2 pick 6's and long pass/run plays to run out to a 42 - 0 lead.  Boredom from there.  An observation I made before the game that is either very significant/or means nothing, but with the way the game started I think in means something.  HSC finished there pregame warm up with 30 mins still left on the clock before the start of the game.  They come out totally flat and get run over.  Passes were under thrown all day by Nance leading to several of the pickoffs.  2 of the ints were on screen passes.  On to next week which will not be anymore challenging.  Offense looked out of sorts after the first quarter which may have been caused by the score at that point.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 22, 2014, 05:07:25 PM
I agree.  I think the absurd scoring in the first quarter screwed up the offensive tempo for Wesley.  Strange, strange game.  I have never seen Wesley hang 42 points on another team in a single quarter like that.  And you are correct, that was one LONG game!!!  I didn't like seeing Nance having to be helped off the field either.  He is a pretty good QB.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: GillCJ1 on November 22, 2014, 05:22:31 PM
Congrats on the win, Wesley.  I saw the score at 35-0 (I think) while at the UMHB game.  Good luck in the next round.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 22, 2014, 07:00:07 PM
Hopefully our miscues were the result of boredom and will not be repeated when they may matter, but we really need to stop doing the stupid stuff. Too many needless penalties, a bad snap, an interception, and if HSC's receivers were more sure handed they would have had several more receptions. You guys are right on that the offense seemed out of sync after the first quarter.

HSC seemed like a classy enough team for the most part, and was nice to see they had a pretty decent fan following. Really took the wind out of their sails when they weren't able to convert after they picked us off, then our next play goes for a long touchdown. That's tough to come back on, especially when you're already the underdog. Congrats on a good season.

Maybe we can at least hope for warmer weather next week!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2014, 01:18:53 AM
 Wesley ran the ball most of the second half and a few starters didnt play after half time so that may have led to some of the confusion with the wide outs and sets.

Ski

Wesley once put 20 pts on Ferrum in the first 1:30 . on the way to a 63pt output. Poor Uncle Frank was hurting that day!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: NedM on November 23, 2014, 05:17:24 PM
wesleydad:

Take solace in one thing: imagine of that first quarter had been televised like an NFL game. Touchdown Wesley and the extra point is good. Half a dozen replays. Then as many or more commercials. OK we're back and here's the kickoff to HS. We'll take break now for more commercials...so forth and so on. I could imagine that quarter taking 90 minutes.

Ned
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 23, 2014, 05:21:23 PM
Quote from: NedM on November 23, 2014, 05:17:24 PM
wesleydad:

Take solace in one thing: imagine of that first quarter had been televised like an NFL game. Touchdown Wesley and the extra point is good. Half a dozen replays. Then as many or more commercials. OK we're back and here's the kickoff to HS. We'll take break now for more commercials...so forth and so on. I could imagine that quarter taking 90 minutes.

Ned

It seemed long to us, I can only imagine how long it felt to the HSC team and fans.  Just way too long for how it was playing out.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger fan on November 23, 2014, 11:00:51 PM
I think it's easy to think everything is great when you win. I think Wesley had the best team I've seen play at the D3 level. I noticed a couple of items that could cause problems in future games. First your punting was horrible. One punt went 2 yards another went for 5 yards, 2 of 17 on third and forth downs, and 13 penalties.

Wesley racked up 560 yards of offense. Very impressive to say the least. 238 came on 4 plays that all resulted in TDs. Granted had those big plays not occurred it's very likely Wesley would have gotten a lot of those yards anyway. But taking out those 4 plays and the Wesley QB went 10 of 24 for 98 yards 1 TD and 1 int.  Wesley offense averaged 7.5 yards per play. Without those 4 plays it averaged 4.5 yards per play. Still good but not great.

Wesley looks vulnerable in a couple of other areas besides punting. First they only sacked the HSC QBs 2 times out of 49 attempts.  Our OL had trouble all season against physical fronts. Wabash as a comparison sacked HSC 6 times on 37 attempts. Finally, at first glance you might think the Wesley OL did a great job. And for the most part I'd agree. But HSC did record a sack - it was the first sack they'd had since the 4th game of the season. They also had 7 TFL and as a comparison they only had 2 TFL against Catholic.

I'm not saying this as a boast or to be some naysayer or to put Wesley down in any kind of way. I'm saying if I see these issues other coaches see these weaknesses too. I'm sure your coaches recognize them as well. The scoreboard really says it all. It was an unbelievable thrashing. I enjoyed everything about my visit to Dover except the game itself. I have a better appreciation for the athleticism of the upper level teams. I am saying that in the 3 round or the 4th round or in the championship poor punting, not pressing the QB, having lots of penalties, not converting 3rd and 4th downs and allowing 7 plus plays to be TFL might cause problems.

Then again if you turnover the opposing team 7 times it most likely will not matter.  I really hope your team wins it all this season. Best of luck.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2014, 01:40:27 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on November 23, 2014, 11:00:51 PM

I'm not saying this as a boast or to be some naysayer or to put Wesley down in any kind of way. I'm saying if I see these issues other coaches see these weaknesses too. I'm sure your coaches recognize qqqqqqthem as well. The scoreboard really says it all. It was an unbelievable thrashing. I enjoyed everything about my visit to Dover except the game itself. I have a better appreciation for the athleticism of the upper level teams. I am saying that in the 3 round or the 4th round or in the championship poor punting, not pressing the QB, having lots of penalties, not converting 3rd and 4th downs and allowing 7 plus plays to be TFL might cause problems.


Three quarters of the game became redundant the instant the first quarter ended.  There was no motivation for Wesley to really play tough after that and they played like it.  Wesley literally jammed an entire game in 15 minutes.   In a closer game, Wesley ramps it up.  They had 4 sacks against Charlotte which featured a full-sized FCS offensive line.  I'm not too concerned with how Wesley will play when it counts.

...and yes, the kicking game sucks.  It has for a while now.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on November 24, 2014, 09:14:52 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on November 23, 2014, 11:00:51 PM
I think it's easy to think everything is great when you win. I think Wesley had the best team I've seen play at the D3 level. I noticed a couple of items that could cause problems in future games. First your punting was horrible. One punt went 2 yards another went for 5 yards, 2 of 17 on third and forth downs, and 13 penalties.

Wesley racked up 560 yards of offense. Very impressive to say the least. 238 came on 4 plays that all resulted in TDs. Granted had those big plays not occurred it's very likely Wesley would have gotten a lot of those yards anyway. But taking out those 4 plays and the Wesley QB went 10 of 24 for 98 yards 1 TD and 1 int.  Wesley offense averaged 7.5 yards per play. Without those 4 plays it averaged 4.5 yards per play. Still good but not great.

Wesley looks vulnerable in a couple of other areas besides punting. First they only sacked the HSC QBs 2 times out of 49 attempts.  Our OL had trouble all season against physical fronts. Wabash as a comparison sacked HSC 6 times on 37 attempts. Finally, at first glance you might think the Wesley OL did a great job. And for the most part I'd agree. But HSC did record a sack - it was the first sack they'd had since the 4th game of the season. They also had 7 TFL and as a comparison they only had 2 TFL against Catholic.

I'm not saying this as a boast or to be some naysayer or to put Wesley down in any kind of way. I'm saying if I see these issues other coaches see these weaknesses too. I'm sure your coaches recognize them as well. The scoreboard really says it all. It was an unbelievable thrashing. I enjoyed everything about my visit to Dover except the game itself. I have a better appreciation for the athleticism of the upper level teams. I am saying that in the 3 round or the 4th round or in the championship poor punting, not pressing the QB, having lots of penalties, not converting 3rd and 4th downs and allowing 7 plus plays to be TFL might cause problems.

Then again if you turnover the opposing team 7 times it most likely will not matter.  I really hope your team wins it all this season. Best of luck.

Can't agree more about the punting, very frustrating all year long.

However, the rest of your statement can be thrown out the window. I will give you the lack of sacks, but then again, to my memory, H-SC max protected by leaving a back in most of the day. With Wesley only rushing 4, that makes 6 on 4. So yes, good job on that. But, because of that too, Nance throws 6 picks into zone coverage.

Good job to H-SC on that one sack too. One sack. Again, one sack.

TFL's, How many were in the second half? Most, I think. Good job.

Last but not least, you can't take out Kodossou's catches from the offensive stats, just like you can't take out Nance's INT's and say he had a ok day. 18 of 37 for 181 and 1 TD.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 24, 2014, 11:00:22 AM
Like WesleyDad said earlier, no need to talk about the game as it was over quick. An Old Fashion A$$kicking.
Good luck to Wesley going forward. It will take a really good team to beat Wesley. I've never seen speed like that at the D3 level.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on November 24, 2014, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: dedragon on November 24, 2014, 09:14:52 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on November 23, 2014, 11:00:51 PM
I think it's easy to think everything is great when you win. I think Wesley had the best team I've seen play at the D3 level. I noticed a couple of items that could cause problems in future games. First your punting was horrible. One punt went 2 yards another went for 5 yards, 2 of 17 on third and forth downs, and 13 penalties.

Wesley racked up 560 yards of offense. Very impressive to say the least. 238 came on 4 plays that all resulted in TDs. Granted had those big plays not occurred it's very likely Wesley would have gotten a lot of those yards anyway. But taking out those 4 plays and the Wesley QB went 10 of 24 for 98 yards 1 TD and 1 int.  Wesley offense averaged 7.5 yards per play. Without those 4 plays it averaged 4.5 yards per play. Still good but not great.

Wesley looks vulnerable in a couple of other areas besides punting. First they only sacked the HSC QBs 2 times out of 49 attempts.  Our OL had trouble all season against physical fronts. Wabash as a comparison sacked HSC 6 times on 37 attempts. Finally, at first glance you might think the Wesley OL did a great job. And for the most part I'd agree. But HSC did record a sack - it was the first sack they'd had since the 4th game of the season. They also had 7 TFL and as a comparison they only had 2 TFL against Catholic.

I'm not saying this as a boast or to be some naysayer or to put Wesley down in any kind of way. I'm saying if I see these issues other coaches see these weaknesses too. I'm sure your coaches recognize them as well. The scoreboard really says it all. It was an unbelievable thrashing. I enjoyed everything about my visit to Dover except the game itself. I have a better appreciation for the athleticism of the upper level teams. I am saying that in the 3 round or the 4th round or in the championship poor punting, not pressing the QB, having lots of penalties, not converting 3rd and 4th downs and allowing 7 plus plays to be TFL might cause problems.

Then again if you turnover the opposing team 7 times it most likely will not matter.  I really hope your team wins it all this season. Best of luck.

Can't agree more about the punting, very frustrating all year long.

However, the rest of your statement can be thrown out the window. I will give you the lack of sacks, but then again, to my memory, H-SC max protected by leaving a back in most of the day. With Wesley only rushing 4, that makes 6 on 4. So yes, good job on that. But, because of that too, Nance throws 6 picks into zone coverage.

Good job to H-SC on that one sack too. One sack. Again, one sack.

TFL's, How many were in the second half? Most, I think. Good job.

Last but not least, you can't take out Kodossou's catches from the offensive stats, just like you can't take out Nance's INT's and say he had a ok day. 18 of 37 for 181 and 1 TD.

Couldn't agree more with your statements. Now I wonder if D3Sports will offer video for Wesley over the next couple weeks, maybe not this week  ;D, but the following week hopefully.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 24, 2014, 03:05:42 PM
I think HSCTiger fan had some valid points, and we do have things to improve on.  Against both UNCC and HSC we had problems scoring TD's near the redzone.  That's where the INT happened Saturday, and later in the game we settled for a couple field goal attempts.  Now, as others have said, we really weren't trying too hard after the first quarter, and certainly not later in the game when we had a lot of subs in, so I don't put too much weight on the overall stats. 

I would just put this thought out there - how much different would the first quarter have been if HSC had been able to return that INT for a touchdown and tie it at 7-7 rather than have their momentum swept away after turning it over on downs and us scoring the monster TD on the next play?  Obviously we'll never know and I'm sure it would have just prolonged the inevitable, but it would have been interesting. 

It's the little things we have to correct to get over the hump and into the finals, as the big dogs will make us pay.  Of course everyone knows it, just easier said than done.  As for the punter, he's had some really good kicks but then has a few of those dogs.   Is there a baseball player out there who punts???  :P
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 24, 2014, 04:54:36 PM
Big time congrads to Joe Callahan in making the semifinal listing for the Gagliardi Trophy.  Well done mate!   ;D

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 24, 2014, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 24, 2014, 04:54:36 PM
Big time congrads to Joe Callahan in making the semifinal listing for the Gagliardi Trophy.  Well done mate!   ;D

-Ski

That's awesome, and well deserved!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2014, 07:58:07 PM
 Some of the starters did not play in the second half. Wesley ran the ball 53 times. Coach Knapp and Coach Drass  went very conservative after the first quarter..Or they may have scored 100pts.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 25, 2014, 10:55:05 AM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 24, 2014, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 24, 2014, 04:54:36 PM
Big time congrads to Joe Callahan in making the semifinal listing for the Gagliardi Trophy.  Well done mate!   ;D

-Ski

That's awesome, and well deserved!

nice honor to be nominated.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 25, 2014, 05:52:35 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 24, 2014, 04:54:36 PM
Big time congrads to Joe Callahan in making the semifinal listing for the Gagliardi Trophy.  Well done mate!   ;D

-Ski


Congrats to Joe. He has had a good year. And most of his passing yardage has been in the first half of games
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 26, 2014, 10:17:18 AM
Man, I am thrilled that we will get decent weather for the game and not the garbage we are in now!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2014, 04:32:52 PM
Ski

Get a little wet up top do ya?? LOL ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 26, 2014, 07:54:13 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 26, 2014, 04:32:52 PM
Ski

Get a little wet up top do ya?? LOL ;D

It's the wind that kills it for me.  THAT is cold.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 27, 2014, 08:47:32 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to all the Wesley fans.  Get through the game this week without any injuries and then get ready for a likely much tougher game next week.  I think Hopkins will beat Hobart, but that game looks pretty even.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 28, 2014, 12:24:32 PM
Not much discussion from either the Wesley or MIT camps. Hope everyone travels safe to the game!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 28, 2014, 12:25:24 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on November 28, 2014, 12:24:32 PM
Not much discussion from either the Wesley or MIT camps. Hope everyone travels safe to the game!

Nothing much to talk about right now.  No injuries tomorrow!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 28, 2014, 09:40:10 PM
Safe travels and bundle up again - supposed to get windier as the day goes on. Not that we would expect it to be any different...
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 29, 2014, 08:50:34 AM
Good luck to Wesley today and safe travels to all attending the game.  I have decided to take the short trip to Widener for what I expect to be a much more competitive game today.  Wesley needs to smooth out the rough edges that showed last week and play crisp offensive football.  I don't expect the defense to give up much today.  They will likely dominate in all areas and MIT will have trouble running or throwing the ball.  Enjoy the game and lets move 1 step closer to the ultimate goal, making it to the Stagg Bowl.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 29, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 29, 2014, 08:50:34 AM
Good luck to Wesley today and safe travels to all attending the game.  I have decided to take the short trip to Widener for what I expect to be a much more competitive game today.  Wesley needs to smooth out the rough edges that showed last week and play crisp offensive football.  I don't expect the defense to give up much today.  They will likely dominate in all areas and MIT will have trouble running or throwing the ball.  Enjoy the game and lets move 1 step closer to the ultimate goal, making it to the Stagg Bowl.

Enjoy the Widener game.  It should be a good one. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on November 29, 2014, 02:46:54 PM
Good win. Starting O and D performed very well. I want to see that Ben Martin TD run again.

Sucks to see Bender go down with an injury. Hopefully it wasnt as bad as it seems. Saw him on crutches on the video feed after the game.

On to Hobart!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 29, 2014, 02:57:49 PM
Yeah, Bender on crutches was the only really bad part of the day. Special teams continue to be the weak link. MIT was a scrappy team. Congrats to them on a fine season.

Am I asking too much to hope for 3 more blow outs like the last 2?? Ha Ha  Looking forward to next week against Hobart.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rlk on November 29, 2014, 03:48:10 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 29, 2014, 02:57:49 PM
Yeah, Bender on crutches was the only really bad part of the day. Special teams continue to be the weak link. MIT was a scrappy team. Congrats to them on a fine season.

Am I asking too much to hope for 3 more blow outs like the last 2?? Ha Ha  Looking forward to next week against Hobart.

Have to congratulate your guys on an amazing team (only saw the score, not the game -- I was at the MIT basketball game, which thankfully ended on a happier note for us).  It can be painful, but you learn from going up against the best.  If you make it to Salem, I'll be rooting for you.  It was an amazing season for us.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 29, 2014, 05:09:20 PM
For those of you at the game, did the O look crisper today?  Callahan's stats look good, but I expected that against MIT.  How about penalties?  Overall, did they look better than last week?

I will be in Dover next week although the Linfield/Widener game is tempting.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on November 29, 2014, 05:10:45 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 29, 2014, 05:09:20 PM
For those of you at the game, did the O look crisper today?  Callahan's stats look good, but I expected that against MIT.  How about penalties?  Overall, did they look better than last week?

I will be in Dover next week although the Linfield/Widener game is tempting.

You gonna fly to Oregon?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on November 29, 2014, 05:12:18 PM
Widener will likely host.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on November 29, 2014, 05:38:20 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on November 29, 2014, 05:12:18 PM
Widener will likely host.

Still fun to mess with Wesleydad
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 29, 2014, 06:57:14 PM
Quarters are set with 1 vs 2 in the Wesley bracket, 1 vs 2 in the UWW bracket, 1 vs 3 in the Mount bracket, and 2 vs 4 in the Widener bracket.  Too me it looks like Mount and UWW may have the tougher games this week.  I expect Wesley to continue to roll, maybe not by 50 but by a comfortable margin.  Linfield will have little trouble with Widener.  The John Carroll/ Mount game could be another battle if John Carroll can match there week 10 perfromance.  Finally, UWW gets the unknown Wartburg.  All they have done is beat everyone they have played.  Wesley, Hobart, Widener, Mount, Wartburg, and UWW are all undefeated and John Carroll's only loss was to Mount.  Pretty strong final 8.  This will be a nice week leading up to some pretty good games this weekend.  See you all in Dover in 7 days.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 29, 2014, 08:22:31 PM
Another whopping 1st quarter.  First, you get a pick 6 followed by a TD pass followed by a punt block return for a TD.  Amazing stuff.  I haven't seen that many points being scored so many different ways!  Wesley's offense wasn't perfect, but then again, with the score what it was, there was no sense of urgency that really makes the squad go.  Ben Martin's long run has to be in the play of the week running.  His 60+ yard run was stopped by MIT behind the scrimmage, but he somehow shed his tacklers to break through the line and run the ball down the field.  It was a cool play that needs to be seen.  I really like him!

Hats off to MIT.  Regardless of the score, they played a spirited game and is a really good team that got behind early and turned the ball over too often.  Their fans filled the visitor's stands and were enthusiastic to the end.  Well done folks, that is what football is all about.

The game was really well attended even with it being Thanksgiving weekend and it felt like a playoff game.  I am looking forward to seeing more crowds next year with Wesley in the NJAC.  It certainly livens the game up.

So onto Hobart which will give Wesley a game next week.  I think Wesley is ready for the competition to heat up, so I don't expect them to look past this game.  The 12-0 victory the last time these two teams played showed that Hobart has a quality program that wants to prove itself.  I don't expect Wesley to disappoint.

Oh, and it was great to see Shane McSweeny at the game.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on November 29, 2014, 08:29:38 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 29, 2014, 08:22:31 PM
Another whopping 1st quarter.  First, you get a pick 6 followed by a TD pass followed by a punt block return for a TD.  Amazing stuff.  I haven't seen that many points being scored so many different ways!  Wesley's offense wasn't perfect, but then again, with the score what it was, there was no sense of urgency that really makes the squad go.  Ben Martin's long run has to be in the play of the week running.  His 60+ yard run was stopped by MIT behind the scrimmage, but he somehow shed his tacklers to break through the line and run the ball down the field.  It was a cool play that needs to be seen.  I really like him!

Hats off to MIT.  Regardless of the score, they played a spirited game and is a really good team that got behind early and turned the ball over too often.  Their fans filled the visitor's stands and were enthusiastic to the end.  Well done folks, that is what football is all about.

The game was really well attended even with it being Thanksgiving weekend and it felt like a playoff game.  I am looking forward to seeing more crowds next year with Wesley in the NJAC.  It certainly livens the game up.

So onto Hobart which will give Wesley a game next week.  I think Wesley is ready for the competition to heat up, so I don't expect them to look past this game.  The 12-0 victory the last time these two teams played showed that Hobart has a quality program that wants to prove itself.  I don't expect Wesley to disappoint.

Oh, and it was great to see Shane McSweeny at the game.

-Ski

Ski, I believe that the score was 35 - 28.  Wesley was sloppy, but Hobart was tough.  I am not sure how close Hobart will be able to keep this game because I think they will have trouble scoring just like everyone else has this year.  Wesley will get in the 30's unless they turn the ball over.  If that is the case I am looking at a 20+ pt win.  That is as of right now, I will re-evaluate as the week goes on.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 29, 2014, 09:08:46 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 29, 2014, 08:29:38 PM

Ski, I believe that the score was 35 - 28.  Wesley was sloppy, but Hobart was tough.  I am not sure how close Hobart will be able to keep this game because I think they will have trouble scoring just like everyone else has this year.  Wesley will get in the 30's unless they turn the ball over.  If that is the case I am looking at a 20+ pt win.  That is as of right now, I will re-evaluate as the week goes on.

Doh!  I got them mixed up with Johns Hopkins.  Point still stands, hehehe.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 29, 2014, 10:55:56 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 29, 2014, 05:09:20 PM
For those of you at the game, did the O look crisper today?  Callahan's stats look good, but I expected that against MIT.  How about penalties?  Overall, did they look better than last week?

I will be in Dover next week although the Linfield/Widener game is tempting.

I thought our starting offense looked much better this week.  Couple stupid false start penalties on the O-line again.  Officials didn't seem interested in calling holding on either side today, which was fine by me.  Callahan did a much better job of not seeming to lock in on a receiver too early, spread the ball around well, and had some beautiful passes.  George continues to concern me a bit.  He had a couple catches today but again didn't seem 100% - dropped pass, caught one off balance so he didn't get any YAC when he should have been able to easily go another 10-15 yards, etc.   We're going to need him back in top form from here out.  Agree with Ski that Martin's run later in the game was fun to watch.  So nice to have depth at running back this year.

Hats off to those MIT players.  It has to be tough enough to be a student there without the demands of a practice schedule, and it says so much about their love for the game that they take on the extra responsibility.

Congratulations to Linfield for their big win in Texas today. I'm sure their fallen team mate is looking on down on them with pride.  Good luck to them next week. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2014, 11:21:34 PM
 I don't remember any team ever bringing that big a crowd to Wesley!!! The visitor stand where full.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on November 29, 2014, 11:32:16 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2014, 11:21:34 PM
I don't remember any team ever bringing that big a crowd to Wesley!!! The visitor stand where full.

Closest I recall is Hopkins a few years ago, and perhaps Salisbury back when they kept the game a bit more competitive.  Was great to see not only a large crowd over there, but one obviously so proud of their team.

Speaking of crowds, did anybody else get caught in the insane line to get in today? It would really help if 1)there was another entrance for people to go in if they already had tickets, and 2)if there was a sign up out front with pricing so people can be better prepared when they get to the window.  I was happy to hear two groups of people in line behind us today were locals catching their first Wesley game - hope they enjoyed it enough to come back next week. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on November 29, 2014, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 29, 2014, 11:32:16 PMI was happy to hear two groups of people in line behind us today were locals catching their first Wesley game - hope they enjoyed it enough to come back next week.

That is good to hear.  If there is one thing that bugs me more than anything else about Wesley is that they don't get any local credit for their elite status.  They deserve a lot more local support than what they get.  I would love to see the stands packed each and every game. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rlk on December 01, 2014, 04:06:08 PM
Quote from: DE Wesley Fan on November 29, 2014, 11:32:16 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 29, 2014, 11:21:34 PM
I don't remember any team ever bringing that big a crowd to Wesley!!! The visitor stand where full.

Closest I recall is Hopkins a few years ago, and perhaps Salisbury back when they kept the game a bit more competitive.  Was great to see not only a large crowd over there, but one obviously so proud of their team.

Have to say this -- we got hammered on the field by a team that gave a decent FCS outfit a serious run for its money, but the Wesley folks here (and, from what I hear from MIT fans at the game) were in all other ways most gracious hosts.  This has been a most exciting season for MIT (only the 2011-2012 Final Four basketball team ranks up there -- yet!), and even if we couldn't give you a competitive game, we do appreciate the recognition and respect we've received.  It isn't always that way.  I remember when we played Harvard in basketball in the mid 1980's.  I was the visiting scorekeeper.  We weren't very good then, and of course, it was D1 vs. D3 so the game was over very early.  Their table crew (yup, clock operator and scorekeeper -- they're game officials) oozed contempt and even yelled at the refs when they didn't like a (not) goaltending non-call, and it wasn't just the usual rivalry.

I have to root for Hobart on Saturday because Coach Martinovich hails from there, but if it's Wesley against UW-Whitewater at Salem, I'm definitely rooting for your folks.  Whitewater has to be taken down a notch (ref. the Final Four above).  For that matter, this ridiculous run of WW-Mt. Union Stagg Bowls is getting tiresome.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 02, 2014, 10:29:27 AM
Good article on Steve Koudossou in the Delaware State News. It's not on their site yet so I couldn't include the link.

Thing that jumped out at me are his career playoff statistics, in 12 games 59 catches for 1227 yards and 19 touchdowns.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: D3MAFAN on December 02, 2014, 01:54:37 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on December 02, 2014, 10:29:27 AM
Good article on Steve Koudossou in the Delaware State News. It's not on their site yet so I couldn't include the link.

Thing that jumped out at me are his career playoff statistics, in 12 games 59 catches for 1227 yards and 19 touchdowns.

d3jason,

I was confused when I saw the Linfield mascot, but after a closer look, realized it was the "LinfiledStrong Wildcat icon"
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2014, 04:03:17 PM
Ahh yes!   :D  Congrads to Ben Martin on making the D3football.com Play of the Week.  I am happy my wide camera was able to catch the play as I was sure he was going to be downed behind the line of scrimmage.  Keep an eye on this kid.  I have been really impressed with his acceleration and moves.  Earlier in the season, the Menlo TV announcers were really impressed as well when he started tearing down the sidelines play after play racking up some serious yardage. 

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 02, 2014, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2014, 04:03:17 PM
Ahh yes!   :D  Congrads to Ben Martin on making the D3football.com Play of the Week.  I am happy my wide camera was able to catch the play as I was sure he was going to be downed behind the line of scrimmage.  Keep an eye on this kid.  I have been really impressed with his acceleration and moves.  Earlier in the season, the Menlo TV announcers were really impressed as well when he started tearing down the sidelines play after play racking up some serious yardage. 

-Ski

Nice run.  I think he could easily be the starter.  He has better acceleration and makes people miss.  If not this year, he will get plenty of touches next year.  I hope he gets them this year because he could make a difference against a Mount or Whitewater.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 02, 2014, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 02, 2014, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2014, 04:03:17 PM
Ahh yes!   :D  Congrads to Ben Martin on making the D3football.com Play of the Week.  I am happy my wide camera was able to catch the play as I was sure he was going to be downed behind the line of scrimmage.  Keep an eye on this kid.  I have been really impressed with his acceleration and moves.  Earlier in the season, the Menlo TV announcers were really impressed as well when he started tearing down the sidelines play after play racking up some serious yardage. 

-Ski

Nice run.  I think he could easily be the starter.  He has better acceleration and makes people miss.  If not this year, he will get plenty of touches next year.  I hope he gets them this year because he could make a difference against a Mount or Whitewater.

I was just watching the play again and had a laugh seeing the Wesley left tackle start blasting the left guard for missing his assignment right in the middle of the play, obviously thinking that Martin was about to get tackled.  Hilarious.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wcrosby on December 03, 2014, 12:01:47 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2014, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 02, 2014, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2014, 04:03:17 PM
Ahh yes!   :D  Congrads to Ben Martin on making the D3football.com Play of the Week.  I am happy my wide camera was able to catch the play as I was sure he was going to be downed behind the line of scrimmage.  Keep an eye on this kid.  I have been really impressed with his acceleration and moves.  Earlier in the season, the Menlo TV announcers were really impressed as well when he started tearing down the sidelines play after play racking up some serious yardage. 

-Ski

Nice run.  I think he could easily be the starter.  He has better acceleration and makes people miss.  If not this year, he will get plenty of touches next year.  I hope he gets them this year because he could make a difference against a Mount or Whitewater.

I was just watching the play again and had a laugh seeing the Wesley left tackle start blasting the left guard for missing his assignment right in the middle of the play, obviously thinking that Martin was about to get tackled.  Hilarious.

-Ski

That's funny -- I never even noticed it until you mentioned it.  He did recover in time to make another block, though!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 03, 2014, 01:13:10 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 02, 2014, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2014, 04:03:17 PM
Ahh yes!   :D  Congrads to Ben Martin on making the D3football.com Play of the Week.  I am happy my wide camera was able to catch the play as I was sure he was going to be downed behind the line of scrimmage.  Keep an eye on this kid.  I have been really impressed with his acceleration and moves.  Earlier in the season, the Menlo TV announcers were really impressed as well when he started tearing down the sidelines play after play racking up some serious yardage. 

-Ski

Nice run.  I think he could easily be the starter.  He has better acceleration and makes people miss.  If not this year, he will get plenty of touches next year.  I hope he gets them this year because he could make a difference against a Mount or Whitewater.

Great for Baynard to have stiff competition to keep him at the top of his game too.  After so many years of injuries at that position it feels awfully good to have a stable this time around.  Maybe we should ask Rutgers if they have anybody who can come help us out on special teams :)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ITH radio on December 04, 2014, 09:17:01 AM
http://t.co/zwgz0KmlKH <---- Central DE News article on Hobart vs. Wesley
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 04, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: ITH radio on December 04, 2014, 09:17:01 AM
http://t.co/zwgz0KmlKH <---- Central DE News article on Hobart vs. Wesley

This was in yesterday's Delaware State News.

There is another feature in today's edition on the matchup between the Wesley d-line and Hobart's O-line. Don't know if it's posted on online yet.

Third straight day with a feature in the DSN.

Weather is looking like it could be rainy. Six percent chance at kickoff and 47 degrees with the chance rising to 24% and a high of 53 by 3 pm.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 04, 2014, 12:16:57 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on December 04, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: ITH radio on December 04, 2014, 09:17:01 AM
http://t.co/zwgz0KmlKH <---- Central DE News article on Hobart vs. Wesley

This was in yesterday's Delaware State News.

There is another feature in today's edition on the matchup between the Wesley d-line and Hobart's O-line. Don't know if it's posted on online yet.

Third straight day with a feature in the DSN.

Weather is looking like it could be rainy. Six percent chance at kickoff and 47 degrees with the chance rising to 24% and a high of 53 by 3 pm.

Great weather... is that normal for December in Dover??  Much better than the crap we deal with in the Ohio Valley.  Anyways, I'm getting WAY ahead of myself because there are two great games to be played before this potential matchup comes to fruition, but will you be headed to Alliance next weekend --(if both teams win, obviously)?

I will be up there -- would be great to meet you. 

I'm sure I'd be able to catch up with my old friend, wesleydad, also.  And maybe some more of the Wesley group?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 04, 2014, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: Teamski on December 02, 2014, 09:49:03 PM
I was just watching the play again and had a laugh seeing the Wesley left tackle start blasting the left guard for missing his assignment right in the middle of the play, obviously thinking that Martin was about to get tackled.  Hilarious.
-Ski

OK, short but amusing and similar story --

When I was a junior we played at Wisconsin-Osh Kosh.  The last play of the half resulted in me getting absolutely planted by a Titan LB after a long throw.  We got a 15 yard personal foul on the play.  What happened was (and you can see on the film from the endzone) my Center punched our RG in the mouth, because he got absolutely bull rushed by the Osh Kosh LB and the zebras threw the flag.

Pretty funny -- our coach was not happy at halftime with anything going on, but especially that.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 04, 2014, 12:39:42 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 04, 2014, 12:16:57 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on December 04, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: ITH radio on December 04, 2014, 09:17:01 AM
http://t.co/zwgz0KmlKH <---- Central DE News article on Hobart vs. Wesley

This was in yesterday's Delaware State News.

There is another feature in today's edition on the matchup between the Wesley d-line and Hobart's O-line. Don't know if it's posted on online yet.

Third straight day with a feature in the DSN.

Weather is looking like it could be rainy. Six percent chance at kickoff and 47 degrees with the chance rising to 24% and a high of 53 by 3 pm.

Great weather... is that normal for December in Dover??  Much better than the crap we deal with in the Ohio Valley.  Anyways, I'm getting WAY ahead of myself because there are two great games to be played before this potential matchup comes to fruition, but will you be headed to Alliance next weekend --(if both teams win, obviously)?

I will be up there -- would be great to meet you. 

I'm sure I'd be able to catch up with my old friend, wesleydad, also.  And maybe some more of the Wesley group?
I'm from northeast Ohio so I will be there if that matchup comes to be, and I'm with you on the weather. This weekend in Dover i might as well bring shorts  ;)

Making the trip this weekend to Dover. See you all there
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ITH radio on December 04, 2014, 01:20:58 PM
Looks like there's a 24 hr delay on articles published today going onto the site, but thanks for the heads up. Nice job on the coverage. Wish Hobart's local paper was this interested in the matchup.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 04, 2014, 01:29:03 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on December 04, 2014, 01:20:58 PM
Looks like there's a 24 hr delay on articles published today going onto the site, but thanks for the heads up. Nice job on the coverage. Wish Hobart's local paper was this interested in the matchup.

We usually get our feature every Thursday (U-Del Tue, DelState Wed, Wesley Thur) but since we are the only college team in the state left playing, I guess we get all three days this week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 04, 2014, 01:40:21 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 04, 2014, 12:16:57 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on December 04, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: ITH radio on December 04, 2014, 09:17:01 AM
http://t.co/zwgz0KmlKH <---- Central DE News article on Hobart vs. Wesley

This was in yesterday's Delaware State News.

There is another feature in today's edition on the matchup between the Wesley d-line and Hobart's O-line. Don't know if it's posted on online yet.

Third straight day with a feature in the DSN.

Weather is looking like it could be rainy. Six percent chance at kickoff and 47 degrees with the chance rising to 24% and a high of 53 by 3 pm.

Great weather... is that normal for December in Dover??  Much better than the crap we deal with in the Ohio Valley.  Anyways, I'm getting WAY ahead of myself because there are two great games to be played before this potential matchup comes to fruition, but will you be headed to Alliance next weekend --(if both teams win, obviously)?

I will be up there -- would be great to meet you. 

I'm sure I'd be able to catch up with my old friend, wesleydad, also.  And maybe some more of the Wesley group?

If Wesley wins, I'll be there.

I stayed in Canton on our last couple times we've been to Alliance, Stayed in Alliance the first time in "09 and the Mount posters took great care of me at the local watering hole (That I believe is closed now. Unfortunate because they had good wings and a lot of Great Lakes Brewing Co selections.)

They weather in Dover as schizophrenic as the lead singer from Twenty-One Pilots (Had to get the local Columbus band reference in there.) this time of year.  It was darn near 70  here on Monday and 31 this morning when I got in the car to go to work this morning.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 04, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
time to put the prediction out there.  Wesley is too good for Hobart.  The offense will be able to do what they have been doing all year.  I hear how good the Hobart D is, but they are not likely any better than Charlotte and Wesley put up 33 and 500+ yds on them.  Avoid the penalties and the turnovers and this will be like the rest of the D3 games have been this year, over early.  I think Hobart struggles moving the ball, their offense has not been running up scores on teams not nearly as good as Wesley's defense is.  I think 42 - 17 is about right.  I don't think the weather is going to be as much of an issue.  Rain may be holding off until 2 - 3 in the afternoon.  Lets hope so.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 04, 2014, 10:00:29 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 04, 2014, 12:16:57 PM
Great weather... is that normal for December in Dover??  Much better than the crap we deal with in the Ohio Valley.  Anyways, I'm getting WAY ahead of myself because there are two great games to be played before this potential matchup comes to fruition, but will you be headed to Alliance next weekend --(if both teams win, obviously)?

I will be up there -- would be great to meet you. 

I'm sure I'd be able to catch up with my old friend, wesleydad, also.  And maybe some more of the Wesley group?

If my boys get there, we'll be there!  Looking forward to a good game Saturday.  While it sounds like this one should be more competitive, would be nice to get out to a strong start and never look back.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 06, 2014, 12:28:30 AM
GAMEDAY!

Here's hoping for a mistake-free game for Wesley today!!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 06, 2014, 09:39:55 AM
Ok, here we go.  Heading out to pick up my dad and then we are off to Dover for the game.  Take care of business and move on.  See you all there.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 06, 2014, 10:38:14 AM
Looking forward to a good game. Hope we start out strong again and put this to bed early. Let's go Wesley!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 06, 2014, 03:48:47 PM
Closer than I would have liked, but I'll take it! All the personal fouls were inexcusable. Hobart's lines were pretty much as good as advertised. Was #90 hurt towards the end? Proud of Wesley for grinding it out till we could pull away. Can't wait for the rematch with Mt Union and looking forward to leaving Ohio with a win this time!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 06, 2014, 03:54:37 PM
Wesley got it done today even with the mass of personal fouls that kept Hobart into the game early on.  I have to hand it to Hobart as their defensive line was tough!  Wesley couldn't freely run until late in the game.   The score doesn't give the game justice as Hobart played tough throughout.  However couple key mistakes took them out of the game.  The rain had a pretty big impact with the sky falling at times.  Luckily, it wasn't too cold.  Wesley's defense held Hobart to less than 200 yards total offense which was pretty impressive.  So, onto Mount Union once again in hopes to finally break the Purple duck.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 06, 2014, 04:49:05 PM
The offense struggled today.  Hobart controlled the line of scrimmage and Coleman was a monster.  Not sure how you run read options in his direction and not have him blocked.  The ball seemed to be heavy from the rain today and the effected some of the throws.  Callahan had to move around too much today, the O line has to be better than that if they are going to win next week.  This game was won by the defense.  They again controlled the game and if not for the penalties would have been a little easier.  Next week will be a great chance for them to gain a little revenge for the bad game they put up last year.  The whole key will be to get pressure on Burke and keep him in the pocket.  The offense should be able to move the ball and I hope they come out fired up and take control from the start.  The team has been close before, time to get over the hump and get to the Stagg Bowl.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger fan on December 06, 2014, 05:15:09 PM
I'm pulling for you guys to win it all, but special teams and Oline need to step up their game and Wesley players need to stop with some of the bonehead penalties if the Wolverines are going to win a national championship.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 06, 2014, 08:49:43 PM
59 - 31, that is what Wesley has to remember happened after the first quarter last year against Mount.  The offense grew up that day and has not really stopped since.  In the end it is going to come down to how the defense handles Burke.  It seems that Mount is really counting on him to make plays this year.  This defense is so much better than the one that played in last years Mount game.  Callahan looked a little shaky today, but Hobart's front 4 were outstanding.  I am not sure if Mount has anyone with the skill level of Coleman.  I hope Wesley comes out throwing the ball all over the field and running just to keep the Mount D honest.  Mount's secondary had issues covering the receivers last year and with them all back I don't see why that would not still be the issue this year.  Show up believing you are the better team and then go out and play like it.  59 - 31.  Go get it done.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 06, 2014, 09:19:00 PM
A few other observations now that I've gotten to dry out... 
1. Punt team was a bit better, kick coverage a bit worse although the kicks themselves were a little better. This is the part of the game that most worries me for next week.  Sounds like Mt Union's punter had some nice kicks today.
2. George had some nice catches in this game, but his blocking efforts left something to be desired again. 
3. Was interesting seeing Martin get some carries when the game still mattered, and I think he figured out pretty quick the side-to-side stuff doesn't work as well when the defense hasn't already been demoralized.
4. I know I'm always hard on our secondary, so I give them credit for a pretty darn good game.  On the blown coverage that allowed the touchdown pass, did the linebacker miss that or was it a group effort catastrophe?

I'm so darn proud of this group of kids and I just know they have it in them to take the program two steps further this year.  Speed, depth, skill, all the pieces in the right places.  This team has been able to start out strong every game, something not always done in the past.  If we can have a solid first quarter that should give them the confidence needed to believe they really can take down one of the big boys.  Even feels like the coaching staff is hitting its best stride, not trying to over think or being too fancy or too predictable. We're darn lucky to have the great staff we do.  Proud to be a Wolverine and ready to beat some Purple butt!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 06, 2014, 09:24:12 PM
Wesley will become truly the Beast in the East next season.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: gordonmann on December 06, 2014, 09:49:54 PM
To answer one of the questions below, Coleman got hurt tackling Braynard on a screen pass where Coleman nailed him behind the line of scrimmage. He came out of the game and I don't think he returned, though the game was out of reach soon after that any way. Wesley was its usual impressive self, but Coleman was really impressive individually. There was one play where he re-enacted Reggie White, jamming up under Adebayo and lifting him off his feet and out of the way.

Good to see the Wesley folks again. Good luck in Alliance next week.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: ITH radio on December 06, 2014, 11:18:57 PM
Appreciate you and Frank braving the elements to bring the fans a video broadcast.

I said a cpl weeks back Hobart had a championship defense and today I'd say the ST unit outplayed Wesley's. Unfortunately for the Statesmen they don't have a Callahan or a Koudossou (at least with experience - there is young talent on the roster that gives hope for the future). Credit the reserves on the secondary for playing tough. D'Antonio was amazing in only his 2nd or 3rd career start IMO.

Wolverines defense was impressive on one hand but Hobarts offensive wasn't great this season and definitely did not play well today so I worry how the Wolverines will fair against Burke.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 06, 2014, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on December 06, 2014, 09:49:54 PM
Good to see the Wesley folks again. Good luck in Alliance next week.

It was great to see the two of you there.  Luckily the rain didn't flood your gear!  A bit more wind and it would have.  ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 07, 2014, 12:48:27 AM
   I don't know how you call all those personnel fouls and don't say what they were. But one player on special teams had two of them that  I saw. He has a problem every week stopping on the whistle. I think that may be as bad as I've seen the field conditions at Wesley. Even the sleet game was better footing

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 07, 2014, 02:21:20 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 06, 2014, 08:49:43 PM
59 - 31, that is what Wesley has to remember happened after the first quarter last year against Mount.  The offense grew up that day and has not really stopped since.  In the end it is going to come down to how the defense handles Burke.  It seems that Mount is really counting on him to make plays this year.  This defense is so much better than the one that played in last years Mount game.  Callahan looked a little shaky today, but Hobart's front 4 were outstanding.  I am not sure if Mount has anyone with the skill level of Coleman.  I hope Wesley comes out throwing the ball all over the field and running just to keep the Mount D honest.  Mount's secondary had issues covering the receivers last year and with them all back I don't see why that would not still be the issue this year.  Show up believing you are the better team and then go out and play like it.  59 - 31.  Go get it done.

wesleydad -- I'm assuming I'll see you this coming weekend?  I'll be in Alliance on either Friday or Saturday, I'm not sure yet.  If its Saturday, it will be really, really early on Saturday morning so I can meet up with skunkssidekick, skunks, mtfan, hurf and the others.  Let me know what your plans are. 

This won't be popular with the folks in Alliance, but I've been telling HScoach all season how I feel about Wesley's team.  I think this is Wesley's best shot -- its their best team and I feel like they have the type of team to take advantage of some of Mount's shortcomings.  Mainly along the two lines.  The only other team left that can manhandle the Mount Union war pigs (OL) and the DL (esp if Lalley is still out of the lineup) is Whitewater.  Hard to discount Linfield without having seen them, but I don't think they are as strong as Whitewater or Wesley along the lines. 

My favorites for the Stagg would be in this order:

1.  Whitewater
2.  Wesley
3.  Mount Union
4.  Linfield
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 07, 2014, 08:24:07 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 07, 2014, 02:21:20 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 06, 2014, 08:49:43 PM
59 - 31, that is what Wesley has to remember happened after the first quarter last year against Mount.  The offense grew up that day and has not really stopped since.  In the end it is going to come down to how the defense handles Burke.  It seems that Mount is really counting on him to make plays this year.  This defense is so much better than the one that played in last years Mount game.  Callahan looked a little shaky today, but Hobart's front 4 were outstanding.  I am not sure if Mount has anyone with the skill level of Coleman.  I hope Wesley comes out throwing the ball all over the field and running just to keep the Mount D honest.  Mount's secondary had issues covering the receivers last year and with them all back I don't see why that would not still be the issue this year.  Show up believing you are the better team and then go out and play like it.  59 - 31.  Go get it done.

wesleydad -- I'm assuming I'll see you this coming weekend?  I'll be in Alliance on either Friday or Saturday, I'm not sure yet.  If its Saturday, it will be really, really early on Saturday morning so I can meet up with skunkssidekick, skunks, mtfan, hurf and the others.  Let me know what your plans are. 

This won't be popular with the folks in Alliance, but I've been telling HScoach all season how I feel about Wesley's team.  I think this is Wesley's best shot -- its their best team and I feel like they have the type of team to take advantage of some of Mount's shortcomings.  Mainly along the two lines.  The only other team left that can manhandle the Mount Union war pigs (OL) and the DL (esp if Lalley is still out of the lineup) is Whitewater.  Hard to discount Linfield without having seen them, but I don't think they are as strong as Whitewater or Wesley along the lines. 

My favorites for the Stagg would be in this order:

1.  Whitewater
2.  Wesley
3.  Mount Union
4.  Linfield

SaintsFan,

Good post, but My order for the Stagg Favorites would be:

1-2. Tie Mount Union-Wesley. Wesley has a great team and yes the Raiders this year are much better than 2013, both
    on Offense or Defense. The winner of this game wins the Stagg.

3. UWW - Great team, but not the defense of 2013, and IHMO will not win a scoring race with either Mount or Wesley.

4. Linfield- Could very realistically be number #3 if they play a great game at UWW.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 07, 2014, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 07, 2014, 02:21:20 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 06, 2014, 08:49:43 PM
59 - 31, that is what Wesley has to remember happened after the first quarter last year against Mount.  The offense grew up that day and has not really stopped since.  In the end it is going to come down to how the defense handles Burke.  It seems that Mount is really counting on him to make plays this year.  This defense is so much better than the one that played in last years Mount game.  Callahan looked a little shaky today, but Hobart's front 4 were outstanding.  I am not sure if Mount has anyone with the skill level of Coleman.  I hope Wesley comes out throwing the ball all over the field and running just to keep the Mount D honest.  Mount's secondary had issues covering the receivers last year and with them all back I don't see why that would not still be the issue this year.  Show up believing you are the better team and then go out and play like it.  59 - 31.  Go get it done.

wesleydad -- I'm assuming I'll see you this coming weekend?  I'll be in Alliance on either Friday or Saturday, I'm not sure yet.  If its Saturday, it will be really, really early on Saturday morning so I can meet up with skunkssidekick, skunks, mtfan, hurf and the others.  Let me know what your plans are. 

This won't be popular with the folks in Alliance, but I've been telling HScoach all season how I feel about Wesley's team.  I think this is Wesley's best shot -- its their best team and I feel like they have the type of team to take advantage of some of Mount's shortcomings.  Mainly along the two lines.  The only other team left that can manhandle the Mount Union war pigs (OL) and the DL (esp if Lalley is still out of the lineup) is Whitewater.  Hard to discount Linfield without having seen them, but I don't think they are as strong as Whitewater or Wesley along the lines. 

My favorites for the Stagg would be in this order:

1.  Whitewater
2.  Wesley
3.  Mount Union
4.  Linfield

Saintsfan, I will be there Sat Morn for breakfast.  I know what I know and this is the best Wesley team since 2005.  I am not sure how much better Mount is on defense, but they will have to be much better than they were last year.  They entire team is back that put up 59.  I know Mount scored 62, but the Wesley defense is light years better than last year.  This is going to be a fun game to watch.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 08, 2014, 09:26:05 AM
Can one of you guys direct me to the Wesley Two-Deep?  I've been to the website and can't find anything..
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MUC57 on December 08, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
Wesleydad et al

First, every one here in Alliance knows Wesley is a great team. We hear that this may be the best Wesley team ever. That info certainly doesn't give me that warm all over feeling.
However; given that, it seems that a lot of posters keep talking about last year's Mount Union team.
Believe me, this team is far better!
For whatever it's worth, consider the following NCAA stats as of now:
     No. 1   Total Offense 594.7 YPG
     No. 1   Scoring Offense 59.5 PPG
     No. 1   Total Defense 217.5 YPG
     No. 1   Scoring Defense 8.4 PPG
     No. 1   First Downs Offense 372 FD
and top 5 rankings in several other categories.
I realize all this doesn't mean Mount will win, my point is don't compare this team with last year's.
This Saturday should be a great game between two outstanding teams. May the better team win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: dedragon on December 08, 2014, 10:39:50 AM
I can't find it on D3Football.com, but when is the last time Mount Union played on the road in the playoffs? I don't mean the Stagg Bowl either. Anyone?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 08, 2014, 10:44:54 AM
Quote from: dedragon on December 08, 2014, 10:39:50 AM
I can't find it on D3Football.com, but when is the last time Mount Union played on the road in the playoffs? I don't mean the Stagg Bowl either. Anyone?

I'm sure Pat knows!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 08, 2014, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: dedragon on December 08, 2014, 10:39:50 AM
I can't find it on D3Football.com, but when is the last time Mount Union played on the road in the playoffs? I don't mean the Stagg Bowl either. Anyone?

1834
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 08, 2014, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: HScoach on December 08, 2014, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: dedragon on December 08, 2014, 10:39:50 AM
I can't find it on D3Football.com, but when is the last time Mount Union played on the road in the playoffs? I don't mean the Stagg Bowl either. Anyone?

1834

I was going to go with one of the LaCrosse games in the 1990s
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: joelmama on December 08, 2014, 11:20:59 AM
Dec 7 1996 against Wisc. La Crosse.   Ding Ding Ding Saints Fan is a winner.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 08, 2014, 11:40:53 AM
Quote from: MUC57 on December 08, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
I realize all this doesn't mean Mount will win, my point is don't compare this team with last year's.

You are absolutely right, it doesn't.  ;)  Wesley has been here before and they will either break the purple duck or they don't.   If Wesley keeps mistakes and penalties to a minimum and play their game,  I think Mount Union will be in for a long game.  Wesley had 4 personal fouls in the first half against Hobart and one of those fouls converted a 3rd and long deep in Wesley's end of the field and directly resulted in Hobart's first of two TD's they scored in the game.  If Wesley makes mistakes, then things get squirrelly.  If they execute like they should, they really click.  I know one thing is for sure.  Wesley is not intimidated by Mount Union and they are resilient. 

  In the end, it comes down to the play on the field.  Wesley has been through this grinder each and every year and it is up to the players and coaches now. The Wolverines have always been the bride's maid and never the bride.  This is their best shot at the big show.  I certainly hope I will get to see that finally happen.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 08, 2014, 12:57:23 PM
This Mount team showed me a lot this past weekend.  Both lines played much better than they did in the first JCU game this season, and I was very encouraged by the defensive effort as a whole.

No knock against Hobart, but for Wesley fans to take anything away from the Hobart game in relation to playing Mount, I really don't think you can do that. 

Just like I don't put much stock into the regular season numbers for Mount.  It just doesn't translate when you are playing a final four team, especially as one as good as Wesley.

If Mount is healthy, Wesley will not be able to stop Mount's offense.  They may be able to contain them enough for their offense to outscore Mount, but they won't stop them.  Mount has too many weapons at WR, and of course we have the one and only Kevin Burke.

I think this will be one heck of a game, and I can't wait to watch it unfold.

Wesleydad......you know where.  S/B there around 9:30-9:45 AM.  Be safe on the drive over!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 08, 2014, 01:37:45 PM
A Big year for Wesley in the 2014 D3Football.com All-South Region Team!!!

Defensive Player of the Year: Sosthene Kapepula, LB, Wesley
Coach of the Year: Mike Drass, Wesley

Congrats to Coach Drass and Sosthene Kapepula!  You guys are the heart and soul of the Wolverines.

First Team Offense

QB Joe Callahan Wesley Jr. Absecon, N.J.

Second Team Offense

WR Steve Koudossou Wesley Sr. Waldorf, Md.
TE Kyle George Wesley Jr. Willingboro, N.J.
C Alex Niezgoda Wesley Sr. Dover, Del.

First Team Defense

DT Payton Rose Wesley Sr. Jessup, Md.
DE Aamir Petrose Wesley Sr. Woodbury, N.J.
LB Sosthene Kapepula Wesley Sr. Olney

Second Team Defense

S Derrick Bender Wesley Sr. Freeh'ld

Third Team Defense

CB Leon Jones Wesley Sr. Lindenwold, N.J


Well and truly deserved gentlemen!!  One more game!!!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 08, 2014, 06:30:13 PM
  I don't think you can take much at all from the Hobart game except the penalties.
   It was as nasty as it can get without the wind!!! The ball was heavy which limited Wesley's deep pass game. There were at least three passes that didn't get to open receivers that had gotten behind defenders.. It seemed  to effect Hobart receivers as they dropped more than a few passes.

  It should be a good game Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 08, 2014, 06:56:52 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on December 08, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
Wesleydad et al

First, every one here in Alliance knows Wesley is a great team. We hear that this may be the best Wesley team ever. That info certainly doesn't give me that warm all over feeling.
However; given that, it seems that a lot of posters keep talking about last year's Mount Union team.
Believe me, this team is far better!
For whatever it's worth, consider the following NCAA stats as of now:
     No. 1   Total Offense 594.7 YPG
     No. 1   Scoring Offense 59.5 PPG
     No. 1   Total Defense 217.5 YPG
     No. 1   Scoring Defense 8.4 PPG
     No. 1   First Downs Offense 372 FD
and top 5 rankings in several other categories.
I realize all this doesn't mean Mount will win, my point is don't compare this team with last year's.
This Saturday should be a great game between two outstanding teams. May the better team win.

MUC, I am not talking about Mount's team from last year, but I am talking about the game that did happen.  62 - 59, with Wesley outscoring Mount 59 - 31 in the last 3 quarters.  That did happen and since both teams have most of the same players back, I would hope that the Wesley offensive coaches and players take great stock in what they were able to do in that game.  I do not expect the game to be that high scoring again, Wesley has improved drastically on defense since that game.  It looks like Mount has also improved.  Still I find it hard to believe that both offenses are licking their chops to get a shot at the other defense again.  Wesley should have a ton of confidence after that game going into this game.  After having done it, why would they think they can't do it again.  I know Mount will have the same confidence.  This has all the makings of a shoot out, with whichever defense making enough stops and maybe causing a few turnovers making the difference.  I expect both teams to get into the 30's or more, although I would be surprised if Wesley gives up more than the 38 they gave up to UNC Charlotte.  Can Wesley get to 40, why not?  I throw season stats out the window at this point.  Neither team has likely played a team as good as the one that will line up across the field from them on Saturday.  I can not wait for this game.  Sort of been hoping for it to happen after what happened last year.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 08, 2014, 07:03:30 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 08, 2014, 12:57:23 PM
This Mount team showed me a lot this past weekend.  Both lines played much better than they did in the first JCU game this season, and I was very encouraged by the defensive effort as a whole.

No knock against Hobart, but for Wesley fans to take anything away from the Hobart game in relation to playing Mount, I really don't think you can do that. 

Just like I don't put much stock into the regular season numbers for Mount.  It just doesn't translate when you are playing a final four team, especially as one as good as Wesley.

If Mount is healthy, Wesley will not be able to stop Mount's offense.  They may be able to contain them enough for their offense to outscore Mount, but they won't stop them.  Mount has too many weapons at WR, and of course we have the one and only Kevin Burke.

I think this will be one heck of a game, and I can't wait to watch it unfold.

Wesleydad......you know where.  S/B there around 9:30-9:45 AM.  Be safe on the drive over!

Skunks Sidekick, you know I will see you on Saturday morning.  Both teams Wide receivers will give the other teams secondary nightmares.  It will come down to which defense can make some stops and pressure the QB.  Callahan may not be as prolific a runner as Burke, but last year he learned that if he extends the play the receivers will create havoc.  He even has designed runs in the offense.  Special teams will be big too and I figure Mount's are better than Wesley's.  I almost expect a punt to be blocked in this game.  This should be fun.  I think a little higher scoring than the JCU games, unless Wesley can handle Burke.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 08, 2014, 09:38:04 PM
I have no doubt Mt Union is a very good team and will be more than ready to bring their best on Saturday.  I also have no doubt this is the all around best Wesley team to have visited Ohio, that we're quite tired of our season ending there, and that everyone is doing their best to be sure this time around is different.    For a change we're coming into this with all our weapons, no big injuries and no excuses. Keys for us making that happen are to not give up big plays on special teams, stop the stupid penalties, and for our d-line to get decent pressure/containment on Burke to help out our secondary.  Looking forward to a great day of football and spoiling the Purple Raiders 100th playoff game.  Nothing but respect for you guys, but am so tired of hearing how wonderful you are that I could puke....
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 08, 2014, 09:54:52 PM
It's all well and good but after 13 games, you are who you are.  Wesley is a team that plays aggressively and commits penalties - but they are also good enough to overcome that 12 times so far.

My point is that after 13 games, you are who you are - warts and all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: rlk on December 08, 2014, 09:56:53 PM
Wesley folks, from one of your recent victims, I'd like to wish you good luck on Saturday.  I'm sure it's going to be a monster of a game, but I'm hoping you guys come out on top on Saturday and then again next week at Salem.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 08, 2014, 11:52:39 PM
Another nice article on Wesley and how last year's loss to Mt Union has motivated us since:

http://delaware.newszap.com/centraldelaware/sports/137026-72/wesley-college-wolverines-mount-union-d3football

Says Drass has won 199 games - won't that 200th be awfully sweet?  Think it was after our first loss to UMU (though may have been the 2nd), but as our fans cheered the coaching staff when they came off the field he told everybody "We'll be back".  And we believed him, believed that one day we'd not just be back but would knock off one of the two big boys of DIII (or with any luck, both of them!).  And the faithful believe that this Saturday will be that day.

Admitedly I've been drinking the KoolAid, but wouldn't have it any other way.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger fan on December 09, 2014, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 08, 2014, 09:26:05 AM
Can one of you guys direct me to the Wesley Two-Deep?  I've been to the website and can't find anything..

Games notes from our game a couple of weeks ago include a 2 deep.

Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 09, 2014, 11:08:56 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on December 09, 2014, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 08, 2014, 09:26:05 AM
Can one of you guys direct me to the Wesley Two-Deep?  I've been to the website and can't find anything..

Games notes from our game a couple of weeks ago include a 2 deep.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HSCTiger fan on December 09, 2014, 11:23:40 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 08, 2014, 06:56:52 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on December 08, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
Wesleydad et al

First, every one here in Alliance knows Wesley is a great team. We hear that this may be the best Wesley team ever. That info certainly doesn't give me that warm all over feeling.
However; given that, it seems that a lot of posters keep talking about last year's Mount Union team.
Believe me, this team is far better!
For whatever it's worth, consider the following NCAA stats as of now:
     No. 1   Total Offense 594.7 YPG
     No. 1   Scoring Offense 59.5 PPG
     No. 1   Total Defense 217.5 YPG
     No. 1   Scoring Defense 8.4 PPG
     No. 1   First Downs Offense 372 FD
and top 5 rankings in several other categories.
I realize all this doesn't mean Mount will win, my point is don't compare this team with last year's.
This Saturday should be a great game between two outstanding teams. May the better team win.

MUC, I am not talking about Mount's team from last year, but I am talking about the game that did happen.  62 - 59, with Wesley outscoring Mount 59 - 31 in the last 3 quarters.  That did happen and since both teams have most of the same players back, I would hope that the Wesley offensive coaches and players take great stock in what they were able to do in that game.  I do not expect the game to be that high scoring again, Wesley has improved drastically on defense since that game.  It looks like Mount has also improved.  Still I find it hard to believe that both offenses are licking their chops to get a shot at the other defense again.  Wesley should have a ton of confidence after that game going into this game.  After having done it, why would they think they can't do it again.  I know Mount will have the same confidence.  This has all the makings of a shoot out, with whichever defense making enough stops and maybe causing a few turnovers making the difference.  I expect both teams to get into the 30's or more, although I would be surprised if Wesley gives up more than the 38 they gave up to UNC Charlotte.  Can Wesley get to 40, why not?  I throw season stats out the window at this point.  Neither team has likely played a team as good as the one that will line up across the field from them on Saturday.  I can not wait for this game.  Sort of been hoping for it to happen after what happened last year.

After the HSC game I pointed out a few perceived flaws - punting, penalties, allowing us to pressure the QB.  All points I still see as issues.  I also pointed out that had you removed 4 pass plays the your QB was something like 10 of 24 with an int.  My karma was quickly dinged, and I was also reminded that you cannot simply discount those 4 passes. I agree. But now your argument seems to be - Wesley beat MU except for the first quarter. That is not to much different than saying the HSC Wesley game was 10 - 7 game after the first quarter. 

Every post since last Saturday has been the same 59 to 31, or Wesley has the best team I ever seen them have, or our defense is so much better than last year's. All statements that maybe very true. But it's also true that Mount Union is better on both sides of the ball too. Their OLine play is more consistent than Wesley's, they don't average 12 penalties per game and they have hands down better special teams play than Wesley.

Last year doesn't mean jack squat. I'll say til I'm blue in the face for Wesley to win (and I know they can) special teams and OLine must step up and the team as a whole needs fewer penalties.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 09, 2014, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on December 09, 2014, 11:23:40 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 08, 2014, 06:56:52 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on December 08, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
Wesleydad et al

First, every one here in Alliance knows Wesley is a great team. We hear that this may be the best Wesley team ever. That info certainly doesn't give me that warm all over feeling.
However; given that, it seems that a lot of posters keep talking about last year's Mount Union team.
Believe me, this team is far better!
For whatever it's worth, consider the following NCAA stats as of now:
     No. 1   Total Offense 594.7 YPG
     No. 1   Scoring Offense 59.5 PPG
     No. 1   Total Defense 217.5 YPG
     No. 1   Scoring Defense 8.4 PPG
     No. 1   First Downs Offense 372 FD
and top 5 rankings in several other categories.
I realize all this doesn't mean Mount will win, my point is don't compare this team with last year's.
This Saturday should be a great game between two outstanding teams. May the better team win.

MUC, I am not talking about Mount's team from last year, but I am talking about the game that did happen.  62 - 59, with Wesley outscoring Mount 59 - 31 in the last 3 quarters.  That did happen and since both teams have most of the same players back, I would hope that the Wesley offensive coaches and players take great stock in what they were able to do in that game.  I do not expect the game to be that high scoring again, Wesley has improved drastically on defense since that game.  It looks like Mount has also improved.  Still I find it hard to believe that both offenses are licking their chops to get a shot at the other defense again.  Wesley should have a ton of confidence after that game going into this game.  After having done it, why would they think they can't do it again.  I know Mount will have the same confidence.  This has all the makings of a shoot out, with whichever defense making enough stops and maybe causing a few turnovers making the difference.  I expect both teams to get into the 30's or more, although I would be surprised if Wesley gives up more than the 38 they gave up to UNC Charlotte.  Can Wesley get to 40, why not?  I throw season stats out the window at this point.  Neither team has likely played a team as good as the one that will line up across the field from them on Saturday.  I can not wait for this game.  Sort of been hoping for it to happen after what happened last year.

After the HSC game I pointed out a few perceived flaws - punting, penalties, allowing us to pressure the QB.  All points I still see as issues.  I also pointed out that had you removed 4 pass plays the your QB was something like 10 of 24 with an int.  My karma was quickly dinged, and I was also reminded that you cannot simply discount those 4 passes. I agree. But now your argument seems to be - Wesley beat MU except for the first quarter. That is not to much different than saying the HSC Wesley game was 10 - 7 game after the first quarter. 

Every post since last Saturday has been the same 59 to 31, or Wesley has the best team I ever seen them have, or our defense is so much better than last year's. All statements that maybe very true. But it's also true that Mount Union is better on both sides of the ball too. Their OLine play is more consistent than Wesley's, they don't average 12 penalties per game and they have hands down better special teams play than Wesley.

Last year doesn't mean jack squat. I'll say til I'm blue in the face for Wesley to win (and I know they can) special teams and OLine must step up and the team as a whole needs fewer penalties.

HSC, read my entire post.  I have spoken about how Mount should feel.  As far as last year not meaning jack squat, this is where I disagree.  Wesley should have total confidence that they can play with Mount based on last year's game and the fact that both teams are basically the same players.  Does Wesley have issues to fix? Yes.  Does Mount have issues to fix? Yes.  I am not discounting the 31 - 0 score, I was there, I saw it.  I also saw a team, Wesley, totally dominate Mount for the last 3 quarters to the point where there was a stunned silence in the stands, well, except for us Wesley fans that were going crazy.  If they do not use that as a way to motivate themselves in this game then in my opinion they are wasting a golden opportunity.  Will it matter on the field, I guess that all depends on how it is used mentally.  Prior success should make Wesley feel totally confident that if they play to their potential they can win this game.  I don't waste time dinging anyone's karma, I just let you know that I disagree with your thoughts.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 09, 2014, 11:49:26 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on December 09, 2014, 11:23:40 AM
Last year doesn't mean jack squat. I'll say til I'm blue in the face for Wesley to win (and I know they can) special teams and OLine must step up and the team as a whole needs fewer penalties.

You are absolutely correct, except that last year's 3 quarters of success have given us confidence and the final score extra motivation.  The only caveat I'll throw out there is that our punting game was unusually bad against HSC, and has been better in other games including the last 2.  Of course if it happened once it can happen again, and that is just the kind of stupid thing we can't afford.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on December 09, 2014, 12:07:56 PM
I just gave you some love Tigerfan.  :) And Wesleydad too. Great have something to read.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 09, 2014, 12:11:52 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on December 09, 2014, 12:07:56 PM
I just gave you some love Tigerfan.  :) And Wesleydad too. Great have something to read.

Wha....?  No love for me?   :'(

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MUC57 on December 09, 2014, 01:52:41 PM

The other day I posted some stats for Mount Union trying to show that this team was better than last year's. Today I uncovered a stat I did not post. Here it is!
                              Mount Union  NCAA Rank       Wesley   NCAA Rank
   Turnover Margin         +17              15                 +35           1
Now that's a stat I wish I hadn't seen. Talk about not getting that warm all over feeling!
Mount had better hold on to the ball or they could lose it. And a good team like Wesley will make them pay.
Looking forward to a great game. Go Raiders!!!!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 09, 2014, 03:09:48 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on December 09, 2014, 01:52:41 PM

The other day I posted some stats for Mount Union trying to show that this team was better than last year's. Today I uncovered a stat I did not post. Here it is!
                              Mount Union  NCAA Rank       Wesley   NCAA Rank
   Turnover Margin         +17              15                 +35           1
Now that's a stat I wish I hadn't seen. Talk about not getting that warm all over feeling!
Mount had better hold on to the ball or they could lose it. And a good team like Wesley will make them pay.
Looking forward to a great game. Go Raiders!!!!

Nice stat for us Wolverines fans but good teams don't usually give up the pigskin easily, so I think Mount Union will be able to protect the ball better than most other Wesley opponents.....

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 09, 2014, 03:42:15 PM
I wasn't at the game Wesley/Mount Union game last year but I have talked to someone who was and knows their football.  His view of the 1st Quarter last year was Mount Union's 31-0 lead after 15 minutes was a result of Wesley melting down and not necessarily Mount Union dominating.  So in addition to giving up a punt return TD and a long pick-six, Wesley gave up a 67 yard TD run on the 1st play from scrimmage and a 23 yard TD pass on the first play following another INT. 

Mount possessed the ball three times in that 1st Quarter -- with two of the drives starting at the Wesley 23 (TD) and the Wesley 16 (34 yard FG) and the other possession was the 67 yard TD run by Mitchell to start the game.

The come away from this is that if Wesley maintains their composure this year -- it should be a pretty good game.  Wesley almost climbed that mountain last year, despite being down 31-0 with 45 minutes left to play. 


I think this game will be good enough that I'm driving the 4 1/2 hours up to see it in person.  The last time I felt this way about a Mount Union semifinal that I wasn't working for D3Football.com was the Mary Hardin-Baylor Semifinal in 2012 and I was there to see that ending.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 09, 2014, 04:34:32 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 09, 2014, 03:42:15 PM
The come away from this is that if Wesley maintains their composure this year -- it should be a pretty good game.   

Amen to that!  In addition to last year's Mount Union game, The Wesley/Linfield game showed that Wesley can be a very good 2nd half team even if they haven't been continually tested this year.  It is up to the Wolverines to make sure they execute and avoid the penalties.  I don't know if I will be able to keep the camera still this Saturday.  I have been between the TV cameras twice now in Alliance filming wide with hopes that Wesley could squeak out a win.  I hope that the third time is the charm.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on December 09, 2014, 04:55:18 PM
Would be nice to say "Congrats" to Wesley on Saturday evening!!!

;D 8-)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 09, 2014, 05:15:08 PM
Sweet!  Joe Callahan makes the Gagliardi "Final Four."  Well done and congrats!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 09, 2014, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on December 09, 2014, 01:52:41 PM

The other day I posted some stats for Mount Union trying to show that this team was better than last year's. Today I uncovered a stat I did not post. Here it is!
                              Mount Union  NCAA Rank       Wesley   NCAA Rank
   Turnover Margin         +17              15                 +35           1
Now that's a stat I wish I hadn't seen. Talk about not getting that warm all over feeling!
Mount had better hold on to the ball or they could lose it. And a good team like Wesley will make them pay.
Looking forward to a great game. Go Raiders!!!!

Not one much for stats, but this looks pretty prolific.  Wesley has scored at least 1 D touchdown in each playoff game.  The defense is light years better than last year, I hope it shows on Saturday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 10, 2014, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 09, 2014, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on December 09, 2014, 01:52:41 PM

The other day I posted some stats for Mount Union trying to show that this team was better than last year's. Today I uncovered a stat I did not post. Here it is!
                              Mount Union  NCAA Rank       Wesley   NCAA Rank
   Turnover Margin         +17              15                 +35           1
Now that's a stat I wish I hadn't seen. Talk about not getting that warm all over feeling!
Mount had better hold on to the ball or they could lose it. And a good team like Wesley will make them pay.
Looking forward to a great game. Go Raiders!!!!

Not one much for stats, but this looks pretty prolific.  Wesley has scored at least 1 D touchdown in each playoff game.  The defense is light years better than last year, I hope it shows on Saturday.

Yeah, I hate stats.  Mostly because you can take any argument and work stats in to support the argument.  The game is played on the field.

I feel like you can just throw out the stats before the National Semifinals for any of the Final Four teams left in a given year.  Chances are the Purples are involved and we find out alot about each team through these matchups.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: MUC57 on December 10, 2014, 02:10:28 PM

Saintsfan, Wesleydad et al

Wow! I can't believe I created such a firestorm merely by posting a few stats on Mount Union and Wesley.
Of course the game is played on the field. I have known that for quite some time. But thanks for the reminder.
Yes, stats can be worked to support an argument. A friend of mine from grad school used to say, "Statistics show that whenever there is an increase in teachers salaries, there is an increase in prostitution." This, of course, is absurd. But it proves the point.
I was merely pointing out what I thought were some interesting "facts" about the teams. Too bad you took umbrage.
It's also too bad you hate stats. So much of our lives are governed by them, everything from government actions to insurance rates to locations for new shopping centers and on and on.
I know many teams prepare for an opponent by looking at game films, using prior knowledge and, dare I say it, looking at stats.
But, I guess I have said enough. I promise I won't mention any more stats, facts or perceived distortions.
I end by saying I'm looking forward to a great game between two outstanding teams. Here's hoping no one gets injured and that the better team wins. Of course, I hope that team is Mount      Union. Safe travels to all.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 10, 2014, 02:37:41 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on December 10, 2014, 02:10:28 PM

Saintsfan, Wesleydad et al

Wow! I can't believe I created such a firestorm merely by posting a few stats on Mount Union and Wesley.
Of course the game is played on the field. I have known that for quite some time. But thanks for the reminder.
Yes, stats can be worked to support an argument. A friend of mine from grad school used to say, "Statistics show that whenever there is an increase in teachers salaries, there is an increase in prostitution." This, of course, is absurd. But it proves the point.
I was merely pointing out what I thought were some interesting "facts" about the teams. Too bad you took umbrage.
It's also too bad you hate stats. So much of our lives are governed by them, everything from government actions to insurance rates to locations for new shopping centers and on and on.
I know many teams prepare for an opponent by looking at game films, using prior knowledge and, dare I say it, looking at stats.
But, I guess I have said enough. I promise I won't mention any more stats, facts or perceived distortions.
I end by saying I'm looking forward to a great game between two outstanding teams. Here's hoping no one gets injured and that the better team wins. Of course, I hope that team is Mount      Union. Safe travels to all.

There's no firestorm.  I just dislike stats.  I don't use them.  You can certainly do that. 

I don't think anyone took issue with you using stats here -- my reply was simply about not liking stats. 

I'm expecting a great game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: joelmama on December 10, 2014, 04:20:59 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on December 10, 2014, 02:10:28 PM

Saintsfan, Wesleydad et al

Wow! I can't believe I created such a firestorm merely by posting a few stats on Mount Union and Wesley.
Of course the game is played on the field. I have known that for quite some time. But thanks for the reminder.
Yes, stats can be worked to support an argument. A friend of mine from grad school used to say, "Statistics show that whenever there is an increase in teachers salaries, there is an increase in prostitution." This, of course, is absurd. But it proves the point.
I was merely pointing out what I thought were some interesting "facts" about the teams. Too bad you took umbrage.
It's also too bad you hate stats. So much of our lives are governed by them, everything from government actions to insurance rates to locations for new shopping centers and on and on.
I know many teams prepare for an opponent by looking at game films, using prior knowledge and, dare I say it, looking at stats.
But, I guess I have said enough. I promise I won't mention any more stats, facts or perceived distortions.
I end by saying I'm looking forward to a great game between two outstanding teams. Here's hoping no one gets injured and that the better team wins. Of course, I hope that team is Mount      Union. Safe travels to all.
There is a good reason to hate stats.  I am an accountant and I can make almost any set of numbers look 180 degrees different from reality if I put my mind to it ;D

However there is a one stat that you may or may not have posted that is pretty interesting.
•Since 1996, the Raiders are 145-0 when winning the turnover battle.
I think it is safe to say Mount usually takes advantage of turnovers if they happen.  Also you can infer that if you turn it over more than Mount you have given up most  if not all the chances you had to win.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 10, 2014, 05:22:46 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on December 10, 2014, 02:10:28 PM

Saintsfan, Wesleydad et al

Wow! I can't believe I created such a firestorm merely by posting a few stats on Mount Union and Wesley.
Of course the game is played on the field. I have known that for quite some time. But thanks for the reminder.
Yes, stats can be worked to support an argument. A friend of mine from grad school used to say, "Statistics show that whenever there is an increase in teachers salaries, there is an increase in prostitution." This, of course, is absurd. But it proves the point.
I was merely pointing out what I thought were some interesting "facts" about the teams. Too bad you took umbrage.
It's also too bad you hate stats. So much of our lives are governed by them, everything from government actions to insurance rates to locations for new shopping centers and on and on.
I know many teams prepare for an opponent by looking at game films, using prior knowledge and, dare I say it, looking at stats.
But, I guess I have said enough. I promise I won't mention any more stats, facts or perceived distortions.
I end by saying I'm looking forward to a great game between two outstanding teams. Here's hoping no one gets injured and that the better team wins. Of course, I hope that team is Mount      Union. Safe travels to all.

MUC, no umbrage taken here.  I read the stats and they are cool to look at and say something about what Wesley's D has done this year.  I know Mount doesn't usually turn the ball over, but they do and maybe the stats say they will this Saturday.  Both teams give up less than 10, but I will gladly bet that neither teams D gets that done this Saturday.  I will be there on Saturday, find me if you can, I am easy to find, wearing a #13 jersey and sitting on the open side with some of my Mount friends.  Right in the mouth of the lion.  It is always fun.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 10, 2014, 07:03:43 PM
Interesting conversation Ric & HSC were having after the game last week on the radio.

To beat Mount, and more specifically Kevin Burke, you have to beat them/him in the first 55 minutes.  Because if it's at the end of the game, and he has the ball, odds are he is going to will the offense to a score.

It's only happened one time since he has started, and that was the beat down Mount suffered last year in the Stagg.  Burke is 42-1 as a starter, and has engineered almost unbelievable drives at the end games/halves. 
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 10, 2014, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 10, 2014, 07:03:43 PM
Interesting conversation Ric & HSC were having after the game last week on the radio.

To beat Mount, and more specifically Kevin Burke, you have to beat them/him in the first 55 minutes.  Because if it's at the end of the game, and he has the ball, odds are he is going to will the offense to a score.

It's only happened one time since he has started, and that was the beat down Mount suffered last year in the Stagg.  Burke is 42-1 as a starter, and has engineered almost unbelievable drives at the end games/halves.

Skunks, that is likely true, hopefully Wesley can lay the beat down on Mount Saturday and we won't have to worry about who has the ball at the end of the game.  Not much talk about the game.  OAC is discussing the validity of comparable heights and weights of players at all levels of college football.  Guess I must be mistaken, I thought there was a pretty big game this weekend for a chance to win the Stagg Bowl.  Maybe I have to rethink my trip to Alliance since it seems like it is just another game to most posters.  SMH.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Raider 68 on December 10, 2014, 09:37:48 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 10, 2014, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 10, 2014, 07:03:43 PM
Interesting conversation Ric & HSC were having after the game last week on the radio.

To beat Mount, and more specifically Kevin Burke, you have to beat them/him in the first 55 minutes.  Because if it's at the end of the game, and he has the ball, odds are he is going to will the offense to a score.

It's only happened one time since he has started, and that was the beat down Mount suffered last year in the Stagg.  Burke is 42-1 as a starter, and has engineered almost unbelievable drives at the end games/halves.

Skunks, that is likely true, hopefully Wesley can lay the beat down on Mount Saturday and we won't have to worry about who has the ball at the end of the game.  Not much talk about the game.  OAC is discussing the validity of comparable heights and weights of players at all levels of college football.  Guess I must be mistaken, I thought there was a pretty big game this weekend for a chance to win the Stagg Bowl.  Maybe I have to rethink my trip to Alliance since it seems like it is just another game to most posters.  SMH.

wesleydad,

See my post on the OAC board, I for one think this is a really big game, I have been worried about  it for awhile.
Wesley is a great team and as you point of the best in years. I expect a close game with some big plays and the winner
will have played a smart game. The weather will be dry about 40 degrees, good for this game. The Raiders are really
tough at home during the season and playoffs, only have seen 2 losses at home in 10 years, so the home field  does help.
Wesley however has played very well on the road so, we'll see.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bartman on December 10, 2014, 10:02:57 PM
Good luck to Wesley against  Mount Union. Turn the tables this year, get the early lead and hold it!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 11, 2014, 03:22:23 PM
I'm happy that the weather right now is similar between Alliance and Dover.  At least Wesley won't be "cold shocked" like they have been in the past.  It is currently 32 with flurries here in Dover, so the practice weather this week should bode well for the team.  Add the fact that the game should be dry will definitely help.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 11, 2014, 04:39:20 PM
Ski, are you making the trip?
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 11, 2014, 04:41:49 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on December 11, 2014, 04:39:20 PM
Ski, are you making the trip?

Yep!  Leaving on Friday.  You will see me on the camera as usual.   ;)

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: thewaterboy on December 12, 2014, 09:59:52 AM
Safe travels to all today. Hopefully the team can come out amped up and ready to go Saturday. Interesting to see Triple Take's predictions. Wesley certainly should not be intimidated by coming into Mount Union.

Pat, for whatever reason I thought it was interesting that you said Charlotte was a tougher opponent, and I'm hoping you're right on that... maybe not the final score part though of course.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: skunks_sidekick on December 12, 2014, 03:13:23 PM
I can report that the Wesley men have arrived in Alliance, and were doing their warm-up/walk through in Mount Union Stadium when I picked up my tickets a couple of hours ago. 

Safe journeys to all, and I for one am looking forward to one fantastic game!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 12, 2014, 03:17:09 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 12, 2014, 03:13:23 PM
I can report that the Wesley men have arrived in Alliance, and were doing their warm-up/walk through in Mount Union Stadium when I picked up my tickets a couple of hours ago. 

Safe journeys to all, and I for one am looking forward to one fantastic game!

Thanks for the update!  I am about to head out myself for Alliance here in a couple minutes.  Safe travels everybody!  I hope that Wesley can pull this one out.  It's been a long time coming.  Only time will tell how all of the cards will fall.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 12, 2014, 05:42:32 PM
Finally got on the road. Looking forward to a great game tomorrow. Safe travels to everyone, and want to have a very happy ride home tomorrow night!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Hawks88 on December 12, 2014, 06:23:38 PM
Good luck, Wolverines. Take 'em down.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 12, 2014, 10:41:52 PM
Wesley wins, wesley wins.  Headline for tomorrow.  I can not wait to make the drive out to alliance in the early am to hang with my Mount friends.  My dad is making the trip which will make it special no matter what happens in the game.  Still, Wesley wins is what I think.  See you all tomorrow.  If you are in Alliance, come to Don Ponchos for breakfast.  Bout 945 or so, you will enjoy the food and the chatter.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 12, 2014, 11:12:36 PM
Wesley Dad, glad your dad can make the trip and chaperon you :) One of my favorite things about sports is how it brings families together, be they biological or team. Part of what makes it sad when a senior class leaves is we don't see their families at games again, or at least not often. But at least we're going to have next week together and go out with a bang!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 13, 2014, 03:11:13 AM
here we go.  what a day trip.  out and back to alliance to see Wesley play Mount.  Hoping for a great game with a Wesley win.  Get it done.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: hasanova on December 13, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 13, 2014, 03:11:13 AM
here we go.  what a day trip.  out and back to alliance to see Wesley play Mount.  Hoping for a great game with a Wesley win.  Get it done.
Looks like it's been a long day for Wesley fans - 49-0 and not even at the half ... ouch!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 13, 2014, 01:54:16 PM
Worst half of football - EVER
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: umhb2001 on December 13, 2014, 01:56:18 PM
WOW. Wesley getting absolutely CRUSHED! Did not expect this!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: HScoach on December 13, 2014, 02:17:07 PM
Wow.  That's what Mount looks like when they play perfect.    Never saw this coming.   Was expecting a really close game.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Bill McCabe on December 13, 2014, 02:19:45 PM
What happened?  :o
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on December 13, 2014, 03:13:06 PM
A triple monkey stomp. Never saw this coming. Was even thinking Wesley would win. Wow!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: WarhawkDad on December 13, 2014, 04:16:57 PM
Wow is right.  I think everyone was expecting a close game.  Nice job by Mount to capitalize on turnovers.

WHD
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 14, 2014, 08:51:44 AM
Observations from yesterday.  First, I must be an idiot.  I actually thought that Wesley would develop and execute a game plan that would give them a chance to win the game.  I could not have been further from the truth.  That was the worst defensive game I have seen and I have seen some really bad teams play Wesley.  I am not sure what was supposed to happen, but on the field the secondary was absolutely lost.  They were out of position and failed to make any plays when they had a chance.  The linebackers were invisible.  Other than the Int, they had no impact on the game.  The only unit that I will say looked like they were doing what was asked was the D line, although they allowed Burke to run almost at will, but that may have been linebacker responsibility.  They got no help with pressure since Wesley seldom blitzed so they were 4 on 5 or 6 the entire game.  Petrose was double teamed the entire game but kept playing hard and recorded at least 1 sack, I have not looked at the stats.  The coaches were in constant conversations with each other or players as to what was supposed to be happening versus what actually happened.  Mount could have scored 100 if they had left the starters in the game.  The Mount receivers were allowed free run off the line of scrimmage and Burke caught the snap and threw a slant to someone, could have been anyone as they were all running free in the secondary.  The safeties were chasing all day.  On the second TD, the safety was 8 yards deep in the end zone as the receiver caught the ball directly in front of him 6 yards deep.  If the linebackers were being used for pass coverage it did not work.  They might as well have not been on the field.  Mount's O line, from talking to my Mount friends, played it's best game of the year, peaking at the right time.  Wesley obviously peaked earlier in the year.  Poor planning and poor execution leads to an embarrassing result.  As far as the offense, the O line had no chance.  Again, I am not sure what the plan was for blocking, but it did not work.  On as many plays as not, Callahan no sooner caught the snap and then had to run for his life.  Mount moved people around and the O line was baffled as to who should block whom.  They also blitzed often.  I am not sure how many sacks there were, but they could have been doubled had Callahan not been able to avoid them on so many other plays.  The 4 ints are not good, but I believe 2 of them went off Wesley receivers hands and then were intercepted.  The pick 6 was really bad.  As Wesley was moving players around based on something they saw, the Mount defense did not move.  #5 who had just been beaten on 3 straight passes by Kodousso was covering him again.  He obviously knew he had safety help in the end zone since he immediately jumped the route, he had not done that all day, and off to the races.  If Mount leaves the starters in this game is likely a shut out.  I would have never thought that a team would be able to execute a game plan that well to shut out this Wesley offense, well Mount did.  In the end, Wesley was OUT everything, played, coached, etc.  An ending like this leaves a bitter taste on what was a very good season.

Every year we keep thinking that this is going to be the team that gets it done, but it is starting to look like they may never be able too.  Wesley is a top 5 or 6 team and they are not remotely close to beating Mount.  I know what the score was last year, but it was 31 - 0 at the end of 1.  Wesley has seldom been competitive in a semi final game and most of the time it looks like they are lost as far as to what the other team is doing on both sides of the ball.  If the plan is poor there is not much the players will be able to do to save it against a top team, Mount or UWW.  Next year will bring another chance and being in a league will at least give them a chance to stay sharp the entire year, this year's second half schedule did not help them as the opponents were not good.  I am not going to jump off any bridge nor burn my Wesley jersey in disgust and I will be here again next year chirping about how good the next Wesley team is and that they have a chance to win it all.

Nice chatting with Ski, Waterboy, Saintsfan, Skunkssidekick, Raiderguy, Theaprof,and Pat Coleman before and during the game.  Also, glad my dad made the trip with me, at least I did not have to endure the 6 hour ride back home in my own misery, he got to share it with me. ;)
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: CNU85 on December 14, 2014, 08:54:11 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 13, 2014, 03:11:13 AM
here we go.  what a day trip.  out and back to alliance to see Wesley play Mount.  Hoping for a great game with a Wesley win.  Get it done.

Man, I am feeling your pain!  I've taken trips to watch CNU football and seen my team get trounced. Road trips I have taken.....Mary Hardin Baylor, Salisbury one year my birthday, Wesley.......not a fun trip. Hope your travels were safe. See you next season!! Will be fun!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: bman on December 14, 2014, 09:50:00 AM
Wesleydad

Condolences...
Clearly, I know Exactly how you feel today....

And at least Drass did not call out an NFL coach after... :-\
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: DE Wesley Fan on December 14, 2014, 01:06:32 PM
For the entire miserable ride home I tried to figure out what the heck happened to lead to such an embarrasing afternoon.  The only plausible explanation I have is..... alien abduction! That's right, somewhere during the trip to Alliance aliens snatched our Wolverines and replaced them with slower, weaker, inexperienced version of themselves.

Wesleydad, as always, pretty much summed up the X's and O's.  Mount just dominated in every possible way.  What I was most disappointed with is how quickly we just pretty much gave up.  Not saying that applies to every single person, but more than it should. Stopped communicating on the field, not the same level of discussion and adjustment on the sidelines as usual, sidelines were just dead for the most part.    I can take losing if you give it your very best, it infuriates me to have felt defeated so early on.

The most discouraging take away from yesterday is wondering if we're ever getting over the hump. If we couldn't do it with this year's team, when can we? Yesterday reminded me of years ago going out to UWW.  Back then the whole playoff thing was pretty new to us, perhaps many of us didn't fully understand what a top DIII team looked like.   It was understandable that we looked like a deer in headlights as the experience was so very new.  This team didn't have that excuse.  But I'll keep the faith, travel where ever my beloved Wolverines go (guess I'll be seeing more of NJ than I ever really cared to...), and keep believing that one day we'll get to Salem.   

On a positive note, overall I couldn't be more proud of this year's seniors.  It's been special watching them over the years, especially those I've known since they were in high school.  Wesley football has given them the opportunity to travel to new places, meet new people, do some amazing things, and hopefully learn valuable life lessons - everything sports at its best is supposed to do.     
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 14, 2014, 02:33:53 PM
Decided to tortue myself, as if being at the game was not enough, and watch the replay of the game.  There were several chances for Wesley to make plays that could have changed the course of the game.  The kickoff drilled along the ground is touched by Mount but not slowed enough and still reaches end zone for a touch back.  2nd pass of game for Burke should have been intercepted.  A dropped pass on 3rd down that would have been a first to keep a drive alive.  Callahan pooch punts that the receivers are not all out on and it barely makes it into the end zone instead of downed at the 1.  Callahan scrambles for a first down inside the 40 only to be negated by a penalty.  That play is followed by a sack and loss of 15.  Kickoff returned across the field instead of up the field leads to blocked punt.  Petrose makes a big hit on a hand off and Burke beats 2 Wesley players to the ball.  Following play, wheel route for a TD.  Each play by itself is not a big deal, but when you play a team like Mount you have to make all the plays when they present themselves and they have to make mistakes.  Wesley did not make the plays and it is 28 - 0 and the blow out is on.  The defense looked as bad on video as they did in person.  The lack of pressure was even more evident.  And before anyone tells me that they lost 70 - 21, I know that, I was there.  I am just listing plays that could have made a difference in the game when they occurred had Wesley made them.  Sometimes the difference between a good game and a blowout is both teams making plays versus only 1 team making all the plays.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: GillCJ1 on December 14, 2014, 07:59:15 PM
I hated to see y'all lose like that, but congrats on a great season.  I guess both the Wolverines and the Cru had disappointing exists this time around.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: SaintsFAN on December 15, 2014, 10:01:31 AM
Good to see you again, wesleydad ... and nice to meet you TeamSki.  I wish it had been under different circumstances.

I thought after the first three plays by the Wesley offense that they were onto something.  Baynard ran for 5,6 and 4 on consecutive plays (not sure of the order) and then there's an incomplete pass and a fly sweep -- followed by a Wesley punt.  I've never seen a team be successful running side to side on Mount Union.  But I thought the straight ahead running attack was going to give Wesley the edge because in addition to moving the ball, it would've kept Burke and Co on the sidelines while also opening up the play-action, allowing the Wesley WR's to get behind people.

FWIW.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 15, 2014, 10:21:02 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 15, 2014, 10:01:31 AM
Good to see you again, wesleydad ... and nice to meet you TeamSki.  I wish it had been under different circumstances.

It was great to meet you as well!  It took me this long to actually post as the loss took a lot out of me.  I was really depressed yesterday.  I don't know what happened there.  Was Mount Union the better team?  Absolutely.  Were they 70-21 better?  No way.  Why the wheels came flying off of Wesley's wagon so early and so comprehensively is a mystery to me.  Yeah, the punting got Wesley in big trouble and really set up Mount Union for their strikes, but that isn't everything.  It seemed that Wesley was truly lost throughout the game.  Either assignments were missed or tackles were non-existent.  Wesley played like their regular season opponents pure and simple.

It was painful to see the dejection in the players and the coaches after being so hopeful for a good game and a legitimate shot at the Stagg Bowl.  Why Alliance has so much Kryptonite under the turf for the Wolverines is beyond me.  There is one thing though.  The Raiders have an outstanding team and they execute every second of the game.  Until Wesley does the same, we will forever be second fiddle.

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 21, 2014, 01:50:03 PM
Wesleydad,  please check your private messages.

Merry Christmas to all and a Happy 2015!
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 22, 2014, 11:43:58 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 21, 2014, 01:50:03 PM
Wesleydad,  please check your private messages.

Merry Christmas to all and a Happy 2015!

Ralph, I have nothing in my messages at this time.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: Teamski on December 25, 2014, 02:45:16 PM
I wish everybody a great new year.  I guess it is now time to say goodbye to the ACFC thread and move onto our new home in the NJAC.  It's been quite the ride since I saw my first Wesley game in 2006 (yeah I am a late bloomer you know!).  My wife and I were walking past the football field on one of our evening walks and I was like "why the hell aren't we watching the games?"   I got an NCAA football team right in my neighborhood.   Little did I know just how good Wesley was.  I was even less aware that 3 years later, I would retire from the USAF, attend Wesley full time and end up traveling with the team for 3 years!  It has been a real roller coaster:  riding the regular season highs and the final lows of falling short of ultimate victory each and every friggin' year.  Well, Wesley will attempt it once again in 2015 and it will be another long wait until the ball is kicked off once again.  I will be there for that kickoff in the hopes that Wesley can break that glass ceiling once and for all. 

So, it is off to the NJAC boards I go.  It will be one hell of a ride!

-Ski
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: wesleydad on December 29, 2014, 09:57:49 AM
Quote from: Teamski on December 25, 2014, 02:45:16 PM
I wish everybody a great new year.  I guess it is now time to say goodbye to the ACFC thread and move onto our new home in the NJAC.  It's been quite the ride since I saw my first Wesley game in 2006 (yeah I am a late bloomer you know!).  My wife and I were walking past the football field on one of our evening walks and I was like "why the hell aren't we watching the games?"   I got an NCAA football team right in my neighborhood.   Little did I know just how good Wesley was.  I was even less aware that 3 years later, I would retire from the USAF, attend Wesley full time and end up traveling with the team for 3 years!  It has been a real roller coaster:  riding the regular season highs and the final lows of falling short of ultimate victory each and every friggin' year.  Well, Wesley will attempt it once again in 2015 and it will be another long wait until the ball is kicked off once again.  I will be there for that kickoff in the hopes that Wesley can break that glass ceiling once and for all. 

So, it is off to the NJAC boards I go.  It will be one hell of a ride!

-Ski

Ski, did not think about it much, but this board will go bye bye with us leaving for the NJAC.  No one else really uses it.  Nice thing is that we have an active board to move to.  They are good people and passionate about their teams.  Hope you have a good holiday.
Title: Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
Post by: @d3jason on April 02, 2015, 12:18:18 PM
Just couldn't give Wesleydad the last word on this board.  ;D ;D