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#2
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 21, 2021, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: miac952 on October 21, 2021, 12:40:24 PM
Quote from: hazzben on October 21, 2021, 11:24:52 AM
Quote from: SJU13 on October 20, 2021, 11:35:05 PM
I imagine the optics wouldn't look that great either for a university to be pouring 8, probably 9, figures into their athletics department (football) for vanity.

Schools have been pouring money into athletics vanity projects for years. The American public or those institutions caring about the optics is long since past.

High schools do it in Texas while their standardized testing scores plummet  ;D

Fun fact: Every money that they spend in Texas on athletics in high schools they are also required to match in money for music and the arts.

If they spent $60 million on trombones and theater props in Allen, Texas, I've got some ocean front property in North Dakota to sell you.
#3
Quote from: faunch on October 06, 2021, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: USTBench on October 06, 2021, 05:44:52 PM
Quote from: faunch on October 06, 2021, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on October 06, 2021, 10:21:14 AM
If this had been in the UST MIAC days, I'd second mortgage my house on a bet that Faunch would be here calling for Caruso to be fired, and UST to be barred from the playoffs for that type of behavior...

In reality though - good of them to call out the crappy behavior.  Hopefully there are enough leaders in the student section to put it to an end. (the ref-shoving and taking a swing at a coach stuff - the Anthem stuff is low-class, but as Oz pointed out, to be expected from young kids making their own decisions for the first time...and the barriers getting broken should be a surprise to nobody).

U$T never had enough students in the stands, in any game other than SJU, to make running on the field an issue.

Perhaps, but I think the more logical answer is we never felt the need to rush the field for a win over (*checks notes)...Aurora? SJU rushed the field for a win over Aurora?

SMH

How many times did UST open a season against a ranked team?
Remember the Aurora game was the 1st game on campus in almost two years versus a top 20 team that we hosted in the 2019 playoffs...remember the playoffs??? (If you all recall UST was at home for the playoffs in 2019  :'().

It was seesaw affair in front of over 8,500 fans in which SJU reclaimed the lead late in the fourth quarter. (FWIW the Tommies drew a paltry 5,000 in their D1 home opening romp versus hoops powerhouse Butler)

Leading 39-33 the game came down to final seconds and a 4th and goal from inside the 1 yard line. The Johnnies D blew up the play and got the strip and fumble recovery, followed by taking a knee to secure the win.
Frankly i don't have a problem with students rushing the field following under those circumstances...I may have hugged half a dozen people in the stands myself.
https://twitter.com/ccarrIX/status/1434264831079731200?s=20

Rushing the field after the Martin Luther and Bethel game was stupid and possibly brought on by excessive consumption of spirits. Any kid that took a swing at a visiting coach should be kicked out of school. I'm concerned that a negative light could shine on pregame tailgating if these behaviors continue. My impression is that there may be a fair amount consumption by students under the age of 21.

Anyway...have fun watching 1-4 Valpo this weekend...should be compelling. They hung with Dartmouth. https://www.valpoathletics.com/football/schedule/

Faunch,

Believe it or not, I don't hate SJU or spend a single second of my time hoping they lose. For the life of me I can't even figure out what your problem with UST is anymore? Attendance? The schedule? Was it your hope  that UST play a MVFC schedule with true freshmen and DIII kids and lose every game by 40? In all likelihood, UST will never play SJU in football again. That bums me out, but no one is asking you to be a UST football fan. I'm even fine if you hope they go 0-12 every year. But you go beyond that, in an odd way, like you'd be happy if UST's plane crashed on the way back from San Diego or something.

Everyone on here, with a few exceptions, understands that the people directly involved with football are by-and-large decent folks. The stereotypes about the student bodies are lobbed at each other in jest, and there's some good-natured ball-busting, but some reason with you, it's deep-seeded and visceral. Even at tailgates you'd just sit and scowl while everyone seems to be having a great time, regardless of the score. I live in Larimore, North Dakota and spend my free time coaching my son's teams and bowhunting, not sailing on Lake Minnetonka thinking of ways UST can irritate you. In fact, I've been to far more UND games in the last 10 years than UST games.

However, I WILL have fun watching UST play 1-4 Valpo on Saturday, and the rest of their PFL schedule. I think if they play well they might have a shot at the conference title, which is neat. I will also enjoy watching UST play Southern Utah next year, South Dakota in 2023, Northern Iowa at home in 2024, NDSU in 2025, UND in 2026, and Southern Utah at home in 2026. Those are some legit FCS teams and I'm interested to see how my school stacks up.

That said, I love DIII football for many reasons. I've played, I've been a fan, and just because UST left doesn't mean I won't be following the MIAC and the Top 25. The UST/SJU rivalry was fun and I am sad to see it go. Mostly because I made some good Jonnie friends and won't have much cause to see them anymore. I even texted with TDT over the past weekend.
#4
Quote from: faunch on October 06, 2021, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on October 06, 2021, 10:21:14 AM
If this had been in the UST MIAC days, I'd second mortgage my house on a bet that Faunch would be here calling for Caruso to be fired, and UST to be barred from the playoffs for that type of behavior...

In reality though - good of them to call out the crappy behavior.  Hopefully there are enough leaders in the student section to put it to an end. (the ref-shoving and taking a swing at a coach stuff - the Anthem stuff is low-class, but as Oz pointed out, to be expected from young kids making their own decisions for the first time...and the barriers getting broken should be a surprise to nobody).

U$T never had enough students in the stands, in any game other than SJU, to make running on the field an issue.

Perhaps, but I think the more logical answer is we never felt the need to rush the field for a win over (*checks notes)...Aurora? SJU rushed the field for a win over Aurora?

SMH

#5
Quote from: faunch on September 16, 2021, 01:04:27 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 16, 2021, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: ChicagoTommie on September 16, 2021, 09:31:28 AM
Hello Gents!

Have not been around in a while...I Haven't been in the betting game in a while, since I lost my a$$ once a long time ago.  Can you actually bet on the Tommies Iowa Game???

You can try to find action on St. Thomas-Iowa but it would probably be difficult.
I've had a buddy looking for a spread but he said it hasn't been posted. I don't see how they would be able to come up with a line on the game. U$T barely beat a middling D2 team and UNI had Iowa State on the ropes two weeks ago and kicked the crap out of Sacramento in the second half last week. If there were a spread it would have to be 35...and did I see that the Gophs are favored by 3 at Colorado?

To be fair, it was hard for UST's D3 recruited seniors to get a running game going, having such enormous balls and all.

I have no misconceptions about what will happen tomorrow, and say what you want about the administration and athletic department, but what these kids are doing takes some sand.
#6
Quote from: faunch on June 02, 2021, 09:53:19 AM
Quote from: USTBench on June 01, 2021, 03:33:15 PM
Quote from: jamtod on June 01, 2021, 02:46:09 PM
Quote from: USTBench on June 01, 2021, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: AO on June 01, 2021, 01:16:31 PM
UNIVERSITY OF ST. FRANCIS (ILL.)         W
MICHIGAN TECH UNIVERSITY                 L
UNIVERSITY OF NORTHERN IOWA           L
BUTLER UNIVERSITY                              W
UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO                    L
VALPARAISO UNIVERSITY                       L
STETSON UNIVERSITY                            W
MARIST COLLEGE                                   L
DAVIDSON COLLEGE                               L
DRAKE UNIVERSITY                                L
PRESBYTERIAN COLLEGE                        L

I think this is a little more realistic.

Zero chance they lose to Valpo, especially at home. I've seen that program up close. I will put money on this. Presbyterian is also a comfortable win. But, if you've got them beating Stetson on the road I'm changing my prediction to SEVEN WINS.

Valpo beat Drake and San Diego this spring. A weird year, but leaves me questioning if they took a big step up.

I put very little stock into what happened in the Pioneer this spring. If anything, pandemic gave UST a grace year to get closer to that level of play.

May I direct this discussion over here? https://pflfan.proboards.com/thread/3906/pfl-schedules?page=3

I wish. Worst fan site I've ever seen. Nothing for SJU fans to talk about now until November anyway. Enjoy your 9 tune up games and slight pushback from either Concordia or Bethel. Who knows, maybe GAC will keep it within 3 scores?
#7
Quote from: jamtod on June 01, 2021, 02:46:09 PM
Quote from: USTBench on June 01, 2021, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: AO on June 01, 2021, 01:16:31 PM
UNIVERSITY OF ST. FRANCIS (ILL.)         W
MICHIGAN TECH UNIVERSITY                 L
UNIVERSITY OF NORTHERN IOWA           L
BUTLER UNIVERSITY                              W
UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO                    L
VALPARAISO UNIVERSITY                       L
STETSON UNIVERSITY                            W
MARIST COLLEGE                                   L
DAVIDSON COLLEGE                               L
DRAKE UNIVERSITY                                L
PRESBYTERIAN COLLEGE                        L

I think this is a little more realistic.

Zero chance they lose to Valpo, especially at home. I've seen that program up close. I will put money on this. Presbyterian is also a comfortable win. But, if you've got them beating Stetson on the road I'm changing my prediction to SEVEN WINS.

Valpo beat Drake and San Diego this spring. A weird year, but leaves me questioning if they took a big step up.

I put very little stock into what happened in the Pioneer this spring. If anything, pandemic gave UST a grace year to get closer to that level of play.
#8
Quote from: AO on June 01, 2021, 01:16:31 PM
UNIVERSITY OF ST. FRANCIS (ILL.)         W
MICHIGAN TECH UNIVERSITY                 L
UNIVERSITY OF NORTHERN IOWA           L
BUTLER UNIVERSITY                              W
UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO                    L
VALPARAISO UNIVERSITY                       L
STETSON UNIVERSITY                            W
MARIST COLLEGE                                   L
DAVIDSON COLLEGE                               L
DRAKE UNIVERSITY                                L
PRESBYTERIAN COLLEGE                        L

I think this is a little more realistic.

Zero chance they lose to Valpo, especially at home. I've seen that program up close. I will put money on this. Presbyterian is also a comfortable win. But, if you've got them beating Stetson on the road I'm changing my prediction to SEVEN WINS.
#9
Sept 4
VS
UNIVERSITY OF ST. FRANCIS (ILL.)         W
ST. PAUL, MINN.

Sept 11
AT
MICHIGAN TECH UNIVERSITY                 W
HOUGHTON, MICH.

Sept 18
AT
UNIVERSITY OF NORTHERN IOWA           L
CEDAR FALLS, IOWA

Sept 25
VS
BUTLER UNIVERSITY                              W
ST. PAUL, MINN.

Oct 2
AT
UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO                    L
SAN DIEGO, CA

Oct 9
VS
VALPARAISO UNIVERSITY                       W
ST. PAUL, MINN.

Oct 16
STETSON UNIVERSITY                             L
DELAND, FL

Oct 30
VS
MARIST COLLEGE                                   W
ST. PAUL, MINN.

Nov 6
AT
DAVIDSON COLLEGE                               L
DAVIDSON, NC

Nov 13
AT
DRAKE UNIVERSITY                               L
DES MOINES, IA

Nov 20
VS
PRESBYTERIAN COLLEGE                        W
ST. PAUL, MINN.

I predict 6 wins. Michigan Tech is my toss-up but I'm leaning UST.
#10
Quote from: jamtod on May 25, 2021, 05:01:05 PM
Quote from: USTBench on May 25, 2021, 02:47:24 PM
I see one full-bird 40 point win by UNI in the last 4 years (some close ones over Valley bottom feeders and non-scholarship playoff victories over the FCS version of the UMAC). 44-0 over Hampton in 2018. That year, Hampton notched victories over SUNY-Maritime (DIII), Virginia Lynchburg (NCCAA *think Trinity Bible College), St. Andrews (NAIA), Shaw (HBCU DII), and Lane College (HBCU DII).

I'll take UST to cover if you give me +30.5.

Also, UST will be playing NDSU in 2025. I will not be betting on that game.

Against my better judgement, I'd take that in a heartbeat. What are you considering the non-scholarship FCS version of the UMAC if not the Pioneer League? I didn't see any UNI vs Pioneer League matchups and I wasn't aware of another non-scholarship FCS league.

I suppose referring to the Big South as the UMAC is disingenuous, but their lack of FCS playoff success is pretty odd considering their location, scholarships, and teams that have gone on to the FBS level. I think North Alabama, Monmouth and Kennesaw State will raise the level of competition in that league significantly, but they've got a ways to go.

The Patriot League has been pretty brutal since the Dakota schools moved up to FCS and the MVFC, Southland, Colonial and Big Sky raised the bar significantly. I would say San Diego has figured something out in the Pioneer where you can say it's now a better conference than the Patriot despite offering 15 less scholarships.
#11
Quote from: jamtod on May 24, 2021, 04:08:12 PM
Quote from: USTBench on May 24, 2021, 03:57:50 PM
Quote from: faunch on May 07, 2021, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: jamtod on May 07, 2021, 11:07:30 AM
If we can keep it within 50 at UNI on my birthday, I'm going to call it a success.

Conference-mate Presbyterian just hired Kevin Kelley, the Pulaski Academy coach known for never punting. Caruso is going to have to up his aggression a bit more.

Good Luck...not!
They started the spring losing to SDSU by 4 and ended the spring losing to NDSU by 3.

Having watched a ton of Valley football drubbing teams by 50 is not really their MO. It's happened, sure, but TOP and making the game as short as possible is what a dominant MVFC team does to its opponents. UST's biggest deficiency against UNI is going to be size and strength, so I have no doubt it will be a long day for UST. Valley teams run to set up play action. I predict a final score somewhere in the 28 to 0 or 35 to 7 range.

You want 28 points on the spread? I'd hate to do it, but I'd take that with UNI. I almost went there and am an Iowa native, so I wouldn't feel TOO bad about taking your money for it. Looking through their historical scores, there is a 40 point win in most years and I just don't see how they keep it closer than that without really really trying.

In current season D3 news - St Thomas baseball gets to start it's final NCAA playoff appearance as the #1 seed in Collegeville. Something beautiful about that.

I see one full-bird 40 point win by UNI in the last 4 years (some close ones over Valley bottom feeders and non-scholarship playoff victories over the FCS version of the UMAC). 44-0 over Hampton in 2018. That year, Hampton notched victories over SUNY-Maritime (DIII), Virginia Lynchburg (NCCAA *think Trinity Bible College), St. Andrews (NAIA), Shaw (HBCU DII), and Lane College (HBCU DII).

I'll take UST to cover if you give me +30.5.

Also, UST will be playing NDSU in 2025. I will not be betting on that game.
#12
Quote from: faunch on May 07, 2021, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: jamtod on May 07, 2021, 11:07:30 AM
If we can keep it within 50 at UNI on my birthday, I'm going to call it a success.

Conference-mate Presbyterian just hired Kevin Kelley, the Pulaski Academy coach known for never punting. Caruso is going to have to up his aggression a bit more.

Good Luck...not!
They started the spring losing to SDSU by 4 and ended the spring losing to NDSU by 3.

Having watched a ton of Valley football drubbing teams by 50 is not really their MO. It's happened, sure, but TOP and making the game as short as possible is what a dominant MVFC team does to its opponents. UST's biggest deficiency against UNI is going to be size and strength, so I have no doubt it will be a long day for UST. Valley teams run to set up play action. I predict a final score somewhere in the 28 to 0 or 35 to 7 range.
#13
Quote from: faunch on April 21, 2021, 10:56:26 AM
Spring 2021 MIAC Football Champs!
http://strib.mn/3n3a37L

I am all for this proclamation, as well as them getting championship rings, 1st team all conference for all starters, and the conference trophy.
#14
Could be a mutually beneficial relationship. Long term tenant for a certain real estate developer, and a certain school doesn't have to put up with hassle of negotiating with the City of St. Paul, environmental impact studies, bidding contractors, etc.
#15
Quote from: sjusection105 on April 06, 2021, 08:49:00 PM
Tommies look to be highlighting hockey- solid coaching hire for sixth D1 hockey school in Minnesota.
https://www.tommiesports.com/news/2021/4/6/mens-ice-hockey-rico-blasi-brings-rich-division-i-resume-to-st-thomas-hockey.aspx

Watched that presser yesterday. Watching UND hockey from time-to-time I know enough to know that's about as good of a hire as they could've hoped for. Was hoping Esten would give some hint at a facilities plan but he's still tight lipped. Hoping they figure something out soon, tough recruiting/competing with their current configurations.

Can only imagine convincing a D1 kid to commute during rush hour everyday to play and practice at a HS rink when other regional schools have legit NHL level amenities ON campus.