MBB: NESCAC

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middhoops

I'll leave the stats and serious analysis to others.
Middlebury beat up on Wesleyan tonight with aggressive defense, timely shooting and a certain kind of killer instinct they haven't shown yet this season.
Matt St. Amour took an easy 21 points as they came to him.  Jack Daly took over the game for minutes at a time.  Fy player Matt Folger had moments of breakout brilliance.  Nick Tarantino was a beast on the boards and running the floor.  Eric McCord showed quick hands and a physical presence when badly needed.
Harry Rafferty made a valliant attempt to shoot Wesleyan back into the game in the 2nd half but it was too late.  Joseph Kuo and Nathan Krill won the battle in the paint when they got opportunities but in the end, they wore down against the depth of Middlebury's big guys.
This was the Panthers best showing of the season, maybe by far.
Now it's on to Conn College and maintaining a high level of play.

Old Guy

Wesleyan has a hard time with Middlebury: tonight's loss is the 14th in a row, their last win was in 2005. Two years ago when Wes won the NESCAC tourney, they lost to Midd by 37(!) at Midd (the Panthers didn't even qualify for the NESCAC playoffs). Wild, no?

Great team win for Midd. Suffocating defense, lots of contributors on offense. The Panthers come right at you. Daly hit 3 threes (he started the year 1-14 from the perimeter). Middlebury's strength is in the backcourt, to be sure, but Majors (6'5" 230) and McCord (6'7", 255) are not elegant but they work hard, consistently beat their defender up the court. McCord had his best game (8 boards, 3 blocks). Tarantino (6'7") is fast and athletic; Folger 6'8" has a beautiful touch & quick release (2 threes tonight) - he's wiry and has good timing (3 blocks tonight). Our front court is formidable.

Comparative stats tell the story: Wes out-rebounded Midd 47-37. Kuo is very tough around the hoop, makes his foul shots, so is Krill but his emotions seem to affect his play and the team's (short fuse, loose cannon); Wes had 20 offensive rebounds. The rest of the stats-battle heavily favors Midd: Assists - 20-9; turnovers 13-21; bench points - 27-9; blocks - 9-3. Midd was 14-29 from three. All-around excellent Panther performance. Nice crowd, even with students not back from break.

Ct College comes in tomorrow after having been licked by Hamilton. They'll play hard, hoping to avoid the weekend sweep. They beat us last year down there.

Some notable individual performances tonight: Malcolm Delpeche (Bates) - 15-9-4blks; David Janel (CC) - 23-10; Peter Hoffman (Hamilton) - 23-9-7blks; Ed Ogundeko - 24-12-6blks. 

Zuri Pavlin only played seven minutes vs Hamilton. Hurt? We'll see tomorrow. Baines is not with the team. No official word on the reason for his absence. Others have really leaped into the breach.


Pat Coleman

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pinseeking1

Bates had an easy road win at Colby last night and led for the entire game. The Delpeche twins are looking formidable, but the big difference from last year is the improved overall outside shooting. This year's Bobcat team has about 6-7 legitimate 3-point shooters. Zone defenses gave last year's team fits as the Bobcats generally shot threes at a low percentage. This year's shooting brings the opponents back to man-to-man quickly, where the Delpeches can work their magic.

Looking forward to seeing if this balanced style can work against the Polar Bears on the road today...

P'bearfan

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The 6-11 Bowdoin recruit is Andrew Ward out of Pope John XXIII HS in New Jersey. He is very much a project as he is rail thin and has not developed much of an offensive game. He does play for an elite HS basketball program and in a league where many players end up in D1.
Believe the was a much more heralded volleyball recruit. May be having my skinny Jersey kids mixed up, tho.

It is the same kid -- Andrew Ward plays both volleyball and basketball for Pope John XXIII. .

Thanks for all the background on Andrew Ward.  +k to all of you. 

Interestingly, both John Swords and Hugh O'Neill were HS volleyball players as well.  Not sure if this is coincidence or an intentional recruiting strategy.  If he can develop the same way Swords did and O'Neill is progressing Bowdoin will be alright.

GoUBears!!

P'bearfan

Tough loss last night for Bowdoin as they fell to Tufts 54-77.

This may sound strange, but Bowdoin actually played well in both halves - the moved the ball consistently on offense, the defensive rotations were solid.  They simply couldn't shoot.  The P'bears finished shooting 34.4% from the field; only 26.7% from behind the arc and just 53.3% from the charity stripe.  And while Tufts played well, Bowdoin's poor shooting wasn't the result of a smothering defense - just one of those nights.

A couple of bright spots for Bowdoin:

-Despite Tufts size advantage, Bowdoin was almost even with Tufts on the glass 42 vs 46.  That's a big improvement from just a week ago and the result of getting bodies in the paint

-While the P'bears had a very poor shooting night - half of their points came from in the paint.  That's another big improvement from earlier when they were not penetrating at all - especially against a team like Tufts.

Hopefully Bowdoin will have the confidence to know that their shooting will come back and they'll stick with this style of play.

GoUBears!!

amh63

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Caught up on the posts of games played last night. Thanks all!  Had to correct errors in my posts yesterday..like spelling Gordonmann incorrectly.  Could blame my iPad :).
Thanks Pat C. On the Pine Manor info.
Some observations of the Williams game.  The game was tight and Coach Hixon only used a short rotation...to get the conference win.  Maybe to see if his seasoned upperclass players can win against a good young team in a hostile venue.
Yes, both teams missed inside "chip pies" in the first three minutes when no one scored.  No foul shots by both teams in the first half....Only seven fouls called with Amherst getting six of them.  Yes, Coach Hixon was not happy.
Dawson was not hitting his shots early.  Had 5 TOs when he was on the floor.  Again, did not pass the ball to a teammate when the player was in position and calling for the ball.  IMO, it is just not in his DNA/mindset to share the ball.  He got his points..even scored near the end of the game, AFTER Coach Hixon gave the sign to just run the time out in a possession.  On a breakaway, Dawson kept the ball with a teammate running with him and a defender on him...missed the layup on a fine play by the defender.  IMO, it was fortunate that the coaches shorten his time on the floor.
PG Berman did make the best of his time on the floor.  Beside the 3-pointer, he scored on a drive inside, under the basket and a layup "behind him".  He was a heralded PG on a top rated HS team from the Chicago area. He scored on inside drives as needed last season. Remembered him feeding Conner Green the ball in the OT win against Williams two seasons ago..in LeFrak.
Yes, Conklin can be an efficient player, a load, inside...both sides.  Williams put  a number of players on him...both taller and heavier.  Like in the ECSU game, a taller player can score over him...with a hook shot.   Still advocate for Big Joe to get some playing time..being he is a center, 6'10", and both Conklin  and George are seniors. 

rainchild908

Quote from: Old Guy on January 07, 2017, 12:07:24 AM
Wesleyan has a hard time with Middlebury: tonight's loss is the 14th in a row, their last win was in 2005. Two years ago when Wes won the NESCAC tourney, they lost to Midd by 37(!) at Midd (the Panthers didn't even qualify for the NESCAC playoffs). Wild, no?

That was actually Midd's 15th straight win over Wes, including three playoff games. Fun or depressing (depending on your loyalties) stat: This is now tied for Wes' second-longest losing streak ever against any NESCAC opponent in men's basketball (Williams also won 15 in a row from 1991-99). The longest is 16 in a row against Amherst, which won every meeting from the 2001-02 though 2007-08 seasons (including two in the NESCAC tournament).

This also got me thinking about how many NESCAC teams have reached a double-digit win streak against another conference team since conference play began:

Trinity: 17 in a row vs. Conn. College (2000-01 ~ present)
Amherst: 16 in a row vs. Wesleyan (2001-02 ~ 2007-08)
Williams: 16 in a row vs. Conn. College (2000-01 ~ present)
Amherst: 15 in a row vs. Conn. College (2002-03 ~ present)
Middlebury: 15 in a row vs. Wesleyan (2005-06 ~ present)
Amherst: 12 in a row vs. Bates (2000-01 ~ 2008-09)
Amherst: 11 in a row vs. Trinity (2007-08 ~ present)
Amherst: 11 in a row vs. Bowdoin (2000-01 ~ 2007-08)
Amherst: 10 in a row vs. Colby (2000-01 ~ 2007-08)
Williams: 10 in a row vs. Colby (2006-07 ~ present)

Honorable mention
Bowdoin: won 11 of its last 13 vs. Colby
Middlebury: won 10 of its last 11 vs. Bowdoin and Conn. College and nine of its last 10 vs. Tufts

And for good measure, all current NESCAC streaks through today's games:


jumpshot

rainchild908, prior to conference play Williams beat the plague 20 consecutive times over a ten-year period during the decade of the 1960's.

Ephs may have had a longer streak versus Mid, not sure ---anyone else aware of similar long streaks among current NESCAC schools?

jayhawk

Springfield gave No1 Babson a tough time today and Babson escaped with just a five point win 73-68 win
When Amherst played Springfield the team was short handed as Riopel did not play who has been a significant contributor and would have been particularly helpful as Johnny McCarthy got into significant foul trouble in that game.

Vandy74

Middlebury completed a weekend sweep by avenging last season's loss to Conn College winning 97-89 this afternoon in Pepin Gymnasium.  The Camels boast an offensive attack of 6 players averaging double digits and demonstrated that kind of balanced scoring today.  Led by Lee Messier (18) and Tyler Rowe (17) Connecticut College rallied every time the home team looked to be on the verge of pulling away.  The visitors shot just 40.8% from the field, however, compared to the Panthers'  56.4% consistency and 5 Middlebury players scored double digits as well.  Matt St. Amour led his team with 31 along with 6 rebounds, 4 assists and a steal.  Jake Brown delivered with 14 tallies, 5 boards, 7 assists and 4 steals.  17 points came from Jack Daly, 13 from Adisa Majors and Matt Folger added 10.

The Panthers are on the road next weekend facing #8 Tufts and Bates.

amh63

Saw a lot of the Midd game...2nd half...to get a first look at Conn College.  Amherst will travel to both Wes and Conn next weekend.  Now Jake Brown is a great PG.  Saw when he and St Amour was running down the court with a defender in between.  A behind the back pass to his teammate for a crowd pleasing layup.  The 7 assists and RBs along with steals are a definitive contrast to Jayde, aka Dawson performance in the Williams game.

Old Guy

Ct. College was worthy. They don't have the classic look of ballplayers: Rowe is really small, Janel is really large, Robinson is really round - but they can play. Messier can really shoot. Pavlov is a nice all round player, though apparently hobbled somewhat. Hamilton must be good to beat them by 16 last night. The Camels gave Middlebury all we could handle - glad we were at home. They'll be a tough out for any NESCAC team.

Midd seemed a little out of sync today compared to last night vs Wes. The ball just seemed to bounce the other way (how's that for astute analysis?). We got out rebounded for the second straight night, tonight 42-31, and their bench outscored ours 32-17 (largely due to Messier, who is hardly a bench player, playing more  minutes than any of the starters). We're were better in assists (19-15), turnovers (12-17), steals (10-4).

Our guards were great. St. Amour had 31 points (5-9 from three - surprisingly missed 6 of 14 free throws - fatigue: he's always been automatic from the line); Jack Daly had 17 points and 5 assists; Jake Brown was a dynamo, pressuring both ends - 14 points, 7 assists, 4 steals.

Great weekend in the Pantherdome. 

PeterEscobar

Quote from: jayhawk on January 07, 2017, 05:48:09 PM
Springfield gave No1 Babson a tough time today and Babson escaped with just a five point win 73-68 win
When Amherst played Springfield the team was short handed as Riopel did not play who has been a significant contributor and would have been particularly helpful as Johnny McCarthy got into significant foul trouble in that game.
Babson was also playing short handed without Charlie Rice who was a significant bench player for them earlier this season (logged 30 minutes in the Babson/Amherst thriller) who has missed the last three games with an injury. Rice is a very strong defender who would have helped contain Jake Ross who got 10 of his 30 points with Joey Flannery on the bench.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: rainchild908 on January 07, 2017, 04:59:49 PM
Quote from: Old Guy on January 07, 2017, 12:07:24 AM
Wesleyan has a hard time with Middlebury: tonight's loss is the 14th in a row, their last win was in 2005. Two years ago when Wes won the NESCAC tourney, they lost to Midd by 37(!) at Midd (the Panthers didn't even qualify for the NESCAC playoffs). Wild, no?

That was actually Midd's 15th straight win over Wes, including three playoff games. Fun or depressing (depending on your loyalties) stat: This is now tied for Wes' second-longest losing streak ever against any NESCAC opponent in men's basketball (Williams also won 15 in a row from 1991-99). The longest is 16 in a row against Amherst, which won every meeting from the 2001-02 though 2007-08 seasons (including two in the NESCAC tournament).

This also got me thinking about how many NESCAC teams have reached a double-digit win streak against another conference team since conference play began:

Trinity: 17 in a row vs. Conn. College (2000-01 ~ present)
Amherst: 16 in a row vs. Wesleyan (2001-02 ~ 2007-08)
Williams: 16 in a row vs. Conn. College (2000-01 ~ present)
Amherst: 15 in a row vs. Conn. College (2002-03 ~ present)
Middlebury: 15 in a row vs. Wesleyan (2005-06 ~ present)
Amherst: 12 in a row vs. Bates (2000-01 ~ 2008-09)
Amherst: 11 in a row vs. Trinity (2007-08 ~ present)
Amherst: 11 in a row vs. Bowdoin (2000-01 ~ 2007-08)
Amherst: 10 in a row vs. Colby (2000-01 ~ 2007-08)
Williams: 10 in a row vs. Colby (2006-07 ~ present)

Honorable mention
Bowdoin: won 11 of its last 13 vs. Colby
Middlebury: won 10 of its last 11 vs. Bowdoin and Conn. College and nine of its last 10 vs. Tufts

And for good measure, all current NESCAC streaks through today's games:



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