Fellow D-III Baseball Fans,
Integral to understanding the various roads to the Playoffs is knowing the conferences. The basics of the conferences vary tremendously.
This topic covers the basic data for the conferences in D-III for the 2009 season.
I encourage fans to go to your favorite conference websites and then post the information about the conference on this site. Consider this an open board. Cut and paste as needed. Please proofread and correct as needed. This should help us become more familiar with D-III. If you do not want to bother with the tabular format, then post the information in the format listed below, and we can put it in later. Thanks to all who contribute. As always, corrections and contributions are always appreciated.
Conference| Region |Divisions (Yes/No) |Divisions (e.g.,East/West)| Round Robin (Single/double) |# of Conf/ Division games |Format (e.g., Friday 9 Sat 7/9 DH)| Tourney to determine the AQ (Yes/No)
Pool A Conferences
Conference | Region | Divisions (Yes/No) | Divisions (East/West) | Round Robin (Single/double) | # of Conf/Div games | Conf/Div Game Format | Tourney (Yes/No) |
AMCC | Mideast | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | DH's various days 7/7 | Yes; Top 6 |
ASC | West | Yes | East/West | Single/3 gm | 18/21 | FR 9; SA 7/9 DH | Yes |
CC | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | DH 7/9 | Yes |
CCC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 22 | DH 7/7 | Yes |
CCIW | Central | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 21 | DH = 9/9; Sat DH/Sun single games* | Yes |
CSAC | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 15 | Single 9/ DH 7/7 | Yes |
GNAC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 14 | 7/7 DH's Sa/SU | Yes-Top 6 |
HCAC | Mideast | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 24 | Single 9/ DH 7/9 | Yes |
IIAC | Central | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 24 | Single 9/ DH 7/7 | Yes |
LEC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 14 | 9/9 DH | Yes |
LL | New York | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 24 | DH/DH 7/7 or 7/9 | Yes |
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MACC | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 15 | Single Home Fr/ DH Away Sa | Yes |
MACF | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 16 | Variable | Yes |
MIAA | Mid-East | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 28 | Home DH/ Away DH | No |
MIAC | Midwest | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 20 | DH; H or A | Yes |
MWC | Central | Yes | North/South | Single/4 gm | 16/12 | 9/9 DH usually Sa/Su | Yes |
NESCAC | New England | Yes | East/West | Single/ 3 gm | 12 | Single 9/DH 7/9 | Yes |
NEWMAC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 12 | DH 7/9 | Yes |
NJAC | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | DH 9/9 | Yes |
NAC | New England | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 16 | DH's 7/7 and 7/7 | Yes |
NCAC | Mid-east | Yes | East/West | Single/ 4 gm | 16 | DH's Sa 7/7 & Su 7/7 | Yes |
NEAC | NY,MA | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 12 | DH 7/7 | Yes |
NATHC | Midwest | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 22 | DH's 7/7 various days 9/9 | Yes |
NWC | West | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 32 | Sa DH/Su DH | No |
OAC | Mid-East | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | DH 7/9 | Yes |
ODAC | South | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | 7/9 DH | Yes; top 6 |
Pres AC | Mid-East | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 18 | Single 9/DH 7/7 | Yes |
SCIAC | West | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 21 | FR 9 Home; SA 9/9 Away | No |
SCAC | ME,S,W | Yes | East/West | Single/ Double | 15*/20 | See notes | Yes |
SKY | New York | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 16 | DH 9/7 | Yes |
SLIAC | Central | No | N/A | Single/Double | 24 | Home 9 Away 7/7 | Yes |
SUNYAC | New York | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 12 | Sa/Su 9/9 DH | Yes | |
USAC | South | No | No | Single/2gm | 12 | 9/9 | Yes |
WIAC | Midwest | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 24 | SaSu DH 9/9 twice or Wed DH 9/9 | Yes |
Notes: (Legend. DE =Double Elimination)
AMCC: 10-team conference (Franciscan Steubenville is provisional year2). Tourney format -- May 2nd single (play-in) games; #6 at #3; #5 at #4; #1 & #2 Byes. May 8-9 4-team tourney, DE.
ASC: East - 7 teams; West - 8 teams. Friday single 9-inning game; Saturday 7/9 DH; Division opponents only count towards tourney standings. East teams play 18 division games; West teams play 21. Top 4 in each division play best 2-of-3 in first round at #1 and #2 in each division. 4 winners hosted at highest East seed in 2009.
CC: 10-team conference. 4-team DE tourney; First day #1 & #2 host. #4 at #1; #3 at #2. Day-2 at #1 seed. May 1,2,3.
CCC: 12-team conference. 8-team DE tourney over 5 days. Apr 28,29, May 1,2,3.
CCIW: 10-run rule used in conference games. Tourney is 4-team DE at the #1 seed. May 7,8,9. Wheaton does not play games on Sunday. Make-up games occur in mid-week. (Thanks to mr_b.)
CSAC: 4-Team (?) tourney; #1 & #2 host on May 6th; highest seed hosts on May 8 & 9. Baptist Bible College did not declare for baseball in the CSAC this season. (Baptist Bible is competing in NCCAA II East Region.) There are only 6 teams in the CSAC this year after the departure of Alvernia, Eastern and Misericordia.
GNAC: 8-team conference. 6-Team tourney; Single elimination play-in for #3-#6 teams in the 1st round. #1 and #2 get 1st round byes. "Tourney Top 6- #6@#3, #5@#4 4/21. Quarterfinals @ #1 & #2 seed 4/23. Semifinals 4/25 @ St. Joe's College. Finals 4/26 @ St. Joe's College." (Stump correctly copied the GNAC web site. sic) Thanks Stump
HCAC: 9-team conference; 4-team DE tourney May 7-9.
IIAC: 9-team conference; 6-team DE tourney at Cedar Rapids on May 7-9.
LEC: 8-team confernece. All 8 teams qualify for tourney. Best 2 of 3 in the first weekend, #8 at #1, etc., May 1-2. 4-team DE May 7-8-9.
LL: 7-team conference. 4-team DE tourney. Rochester has dual membership with the UAA.
MACC: Has 6 teams in 2009. 3-game series each weekend. Single game played at Team A on Fr then DH at Team B on Sat. Alvernia moves to the Commonwealth from the Freedom in 2010. Tourney is 4-team DE, May 1-3 at Albright.
MACF: Has 9 teams in 2009. Teams play either DH or single game Home/Away series. Tourney has single play-in game #5 at #4 on Apr 28, then 4-team DE Apr 30-May 2 at Boyertown.
MIAA: Eight team conference. Four-game series back-to-back home away DH's. No tourney
MIAC: Eleven-team conference. 4-team DE Tourney. May 7,8,9
MWC: North Division has 5 teams; South Division has 4; (no Lake Forest); 4-team tourney; Top 2 from each division; DE. North hosts in 2009. May 8-9. (Thanks Hickory Cornhusker.)
NESCAC: 10-teams in 2 divisions (no Connecticut College). Tourney is top 2 each division at West #1, DE. Tourney is May 8-10 at West highest seed.
NEWMAC: 7-team conference. Plays 6-team DE tourney. First 2 rounds at higher seed on Apr 22-23, final 2 days of games at highest seed, Apr 25-26.
NJAC: 10-team conference. Plays 6-team DE. Apr 28, 30, May 2,3.
NAC: 5-team conference. 4-team DE. NAC will not have the required 7 schools to qualify for Pool A bid. Therefore, the NAC will affiliate with the NEAC (in multiple sports) in 2010 to preserve access to the AQ, (for both conferences).
NCAC: 4-team tourney, best of three 9-inning between top 2 teams from each division. Winners play best-of-3 nine inning games the May 8-9.
NEAC: 7-team conference. (PSU-Harrisburg is 2nd-yr provisional; SUNY-Cobleskill is 1st-yr provisional.) Post-season tourney Top 4 double elim. (Accepts affiliation by the North Atlantic Conference in 2010 to preserve access to the AQ.)
NATHC: 12-team conf. Tournament - Top 4 Qualify, standard DE at Rockford.
NWC: No additional notes.
OAC: Tourney top 4 teams DE.
ODAC: 10-team conference (no Randolph College). Saturday 7/9 DH vs 7 opponents, 2 9's in mid-week vs 2 opponents. Top 6 of the 10 teams advance to DE tournament. .
Pres AC: Geneva Provisional yr #2 and St Vincent Provisional yr #3. Single 9 inning home; 7/7 Away DH. Tourney is 4-team DE.
SCIAC: Plays Friday game 9 innings at home/away and then Saturday 9/9 DH away/home. No tourney.
SCAC: * 2nd-year provisional Birmingham-Southern (BSC) games are not "in-region"; East 5 teams plus BSC; West 5 teams, no Colorado College. East is playing single round-robin 3-games series. West plays 2/3;H/A Double Round Robin with a 2-game series at home/away and then a 3-game series away/home on another weekend. Multi-region conference. 6-team DE tourney.
SKY: Tourney #3-#6 single game play-in on April 29th, then remaining four DE tourney on May 1-3. (Bard doesn't play baseball.)
SLIAC: Home 9 away 7/7 DH; Top 4 teams, DE tourney at Highland IL on May 7-9.
SUNYAC: 4-team DE on May 1-3. (No Buffalo, Geneseo, Potsdam)
USAC: 7-team DE tourney April 16-19, 2009; conference cut back to 12 conference games to improve chances at better, less internecine regional records for conference members.
WIAC: No UW-EC, no UW-RF. 24 conference games, two 9/9 DH's. Tourney is "DE", double elimination.; Top 4 teams; #3/#4 start in losers' bracket
AMCC = Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conf
ASC = American Southwest Conf
CC = Centennial Conf
CCIW = College Conf of Illinois and Wisconsin
CSAC = Colonial States Ath Conf
MACC = Commonwealth Conf
CCC = Commonwealth Coast Conf
MACF = Freedom Conf
GNAC = Great Northeast Ath Conf
HCAC = Heartland Collegiate Ath Conf
IIAC = Iowa Intercollegiate Ath Conf
LL = Liberty League
LEC = Little East Conf
MASCAC = Massachusetts State College Ath Conf
MIAA = Michigan Intercollegiate Ath Assn
MWC = Midwest Conf
MIAC = Minnesota Intercollegiate Ath Conf
NESCAC = New England Small College Ath Conf
NEWMAC = New England Women's and Men's Ath Conf
NJAC = New Jersey Ath Conf
NAC = North Atlantic Conf
NCAC = North Coast Ath Conf
NEAC = North Eastern Ath Conf
NATHC = Northern Athletics Conf
NWC = Northwest Conf
OAC = Ohio Athletic Conf
ODAC = Old Dominion Ath Conf
PrAC = President's Ath Conf
SKY = Skyline Conf
SLIAC = St. Louis Intercollegiate Ath Conf
SCIAC = Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conf
SCAC = Southern Collegiate Ath Conf
SUNYAC = State University of New York Ath Conf
USAC = USA South Ath Conf
WIAC = Wisconsin Intercollegiate Ath Conf
Pool B ConferencesConference | Region | Divisions (Yes/No) | Divisions (East/West) | Round Robin (Single/double) | # of Conf/Div games | Conf/Div Game Format | Tourney (Yes/No) |
CAC | South | No | N/A | Single/ 3gm | 18 | Home 9/ Away DH 7/7 | Yes |
CUNYAC | New York | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 10 | DH 7/7 | Yes |
E8 | New York | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 16 | Sa/Su DH's 7/7 & 7/7 | No |
LAND | MA,NY,S | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 18 | SA 7/7; SU 9 | Yes |
GSAC | South | No | No | Single | 9 | DH 9/9 +single 9 | No |
NECC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 10 | DH 7/7 | Yes |
UAA | NE, NY, S, ME, C | No | N/A | * | * | * | * |
UMAC | Midwest | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 21 | Fr DH 7/7 Sa 9 | Yes |
Notes: (Legend -- DE = double elimination)
CAC: 7-team conference (no Hood or Marymount VA). Plays 6-team DE tourney. Pool B conference; should earn Pool A status in 2010.
CUNYAC: 6-team conference including Baruch, CCNY, College of Staten island (CSI), John Jay, Lehman and affiliate (4th-yr provisional) Mitchell. Plays 4-team DE tourney.
E8: 5-team conference including Ithaca, Rochester Inst of Tech (RIT), St John Fisher, Stevens and Utica.
LAND: 7-team conference. Pool B conference for 2008 & 2009; Should get Pool A status in 2010. Multi-region conference, Mid-Atlantic, New York and South Regions. (Goucher does not play baseball.) Plays season-ending post-season tourney; top 4 DE tourney at #1 seed.
GSAC: 4-team conference. Pool B members. No post-season tourney. Piedmont made 2008 NCAA's as a Pool B bid.
NECC: 6-team conference including 4th year provisional Mitchell; has 4-team DE tourney. (Lesley will add baseball in 2010-11.)
UAA: * 5-team conference including Brandeis, Emory, CWRU and Wash StL. Rochester carries dual membership in Liberty League. (Chicago does not compete in UAA). Conducts 5-team conference tourney in Florida every March.
UMAC: 8-team conference that should earn Pool A status in 2011. 4-team DE post-season tourney.
CAC = Capital Athletic Conference
CUNYAC = City University of New York Athetic Conference
E 8 = Empire 8
GSAC = Great South Athletic Conference
LAND = Landmark Conference
NECC = New England Collegiate Conference
UAA = University Athletic Association
UMAC = Upper Midwest Athletic Conference
Pool B independents
Region | Teams |
Central | Chicago, Neb Wesleyan |
Mid-Atl | none |
Mideast | Finlandia |
Midwest | none |
New England | University of Maine-Presque Isle |
New York | none |
South | Rust |
West | Cal State-East Bay*, Chapman, Dallas, Menlo |
Notes: *Cal State-East Bay moves to D-II in 2009-10.
Ralph,
Since you've given me so much info in bball, here's info on Landmark(which isn't in your list) from a casual baseball observer:
Conference Region Divisions (Yes/No) Divisions (East/West) Round Robin (Single/double) # of Conf/Div games Conf/Div Game Format Tourney (Yes/No)
Landmark(7,no Goucher) MA,A(if same as bball) No - Single 18/33? Sa(2H),Su Yes(4 teams)
WIAC; Midwest Region; No Divisions (7 teams); Single Round Robin; 24 Conf. Games (4-9 inn games. Either DH-Sat & DH-Sun or DH-Wed. & DH-Wed.); Tournament - Top 4 Qualify, double elim., but bottom two seeds start in losers bracket at Highest Seed.
NATHC; Midwest Region; No Divisions (12 teams); Single Round Robin; 22 Conf. Games (2-9 inn games. DH's various days); Tournament - Top 4 Qualify, standard double elim. at Rockford.
Thanks ronk and Just Bill. +1! :)
I will add those conferences into the table later.
+1 karma for AG! Thanks
Conference | Region | Divisions (Yes/No) | Divisions (East/West) | Round Robin (Single/double) | # of Conf/Div games | Conf/Div Game Format | Tourney (Yes/No) |
ODAC | South | No | No | 2 gms | 18 | 7/9 DH | Yes top 6 |
Notes:
ODAC: Saturday 7/9 DH vs 7 opponents, 2 9's in mid-week vs 2 opponents. Top 6 of the 10 teams advance to tournament
Old Dominion Athletic Conference
More conference summaries added today.
Contributions and corrections are appreciated.
Thanks to bash 6-4-3 for the corrections on the NCAC. +1!
Apr 19th. The table should be complete for 2009.
GNAC- New England-No divisions- 8 teams- 14 conf games- 7/7 DH Sat & Sun Tourney Top 6- #6@#3, #5@#4 4/21. Quarterfinals @ #1 & #2 seed 4/23. Semifinals 4/25 @ St. Joe's College. Finals 4/26 @ St. Joe's College
Midwest Conference - Central Region - Yes - North/South - 4 Games (Divisional Opponents only) - 16(North)/12(South) - 9/9 DH Sat & 9/9 DH Sun (Sometimes it may be a different combination of weekend days such as Fri & Sat) - Tourney double elimination Top 2 from each division, north division champ hosts this year, south division champ hosts next year
I'll give it a shot.
LEC
8 team conference with two games against each other (14 conference games per season). Three conference games a week, single games home and away on Fridays or a doubleheader on Saturday, travel I'm sure determines that. Conference tournament at the end of the season with all eight teams involved.
Sat. May 2nd little east conference playoffs (best of three) Site of higher seed
Sun. May 3rd little east conference playoffs (best of three) Site of higher Seed
Thurs. May 7th little east tournament (double elimination) Site of No. 1 seed
Sat. May 9th little east tournament (double elimination) Site of No. 1 seed
Quote from: DGilblair on April 19, 2009, 11:44:01 AM
I'll give it a shot.
LEC
8 team conference with two games against each other (14 conference games per season). Three conference games a week, single games home and away on Fridays or a doubleheader on Saturday, travel I'm sure determines that. Conference tournament at the end of the season with all eight teams involved.
Sat. May 2nd little east conference playoffs (best of three) Site of higher seed
Sun. May 3rd little east conference playoffs (best of three) Site of higher Seed
Thurs. May 7th little east tournament (double elimination) Site of No. 1 seed
Sat. May 9th little east tournament (double elimination) Site of No. 1 seed
DG, thanks for the response. +1! The weather and grounds postponements sometimes make it hard to figure out the theory behind the schedule.
I have some basic questions.
In conference play, will schools be scheduled to play home and away single games in mid-week in different weeks? Is the team given 7 home conference games? Are all games planned as 9-inning games?
(I noticed all of the 7/7 DH's that are played "up north". It makes sense.)
So the first weekend of the tourney is best 2-of-3, #8 at #1, #7 at #2, etc., and then 4-team double elimination at the highest remaining seed?
Thanks.
As you look at the table, it is interesting how schools get to play schedules in the time of good weather that each has each spring.
Ralph,
Here's the scoop on the NCAC (North Coast Athletic Conference).
Mideast region.
10 teams divided into 5 teams in east division & 5 teams in west division.
Regular season has 16 games played - 4 games against each division opponent. Play 7 inn. DH on Sat. & Sun.
postseason has 2 rounds:
rd. 1 : best 2 of 3 games (9 inn.) - #2 East Division @ #1 West Division
- #2 West Division @ #1 East Division
rd. 2 : best 2 of 3 games (9 inn.) between the two winners of round 1.
I believe location of this round is predetermined at the start of the season. Winner receives the AQ
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 19, 2009, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on April 19, 2009, 11:44:01 AM
I'll give it a shot.
LEC
8 team conference with two games against each other (14 conference games per season). Three conference games a week, single games home and away on Fridays or a doubleheader on Saturday, travel I'm sure determines that. Conference tournament at the end of the season with all eight teams involved.
Sat. May 2nd little east conference playoffs (best of three) Site of higher seed
Sun. May 3rd little east conference playoffs (best of three) Site of higher Seed
Thurs. May 7th little east tournament (double elimination) Site of No. 1 seed
Sat. May 9th little east tournament (double elimination) Site of No. 1 seed
DG, thanks for the response. +1! The weather and grounds postponements sometimes make it hard to figure out the theory behind the schedule.
I have some basic questions.
In conference play, will schools be scheduled to play home and away single games in mid-week in different weeks? Is the team given 7 home conference games? Are all games planned as 9-inning games?
(I noticed all of the 7/7 DH's that are played "up north". It makes sense.)
So the first weekend of the tourney is best 2-of-3, #8 at #1, #7 at #2, etc., and then 4-team double elimination at the highest remaining seed?
Thanks.
As you look at the table, it is interesting how schools get to play schedules in the time of good weather that each has each spring.
No problem Ralph, thanks.
In conference play, will schools be scheduled to play home and away single games in mid-week in different weeks? Yes, LEC games are all initally scheduled for single games on Friday vs one team, then a doubleheader on Saturday vs a different team.
Is the team given 7 home conference games? Seems to work out as some getting 6 home games and others getting 8.
Are all games planned as 9-inning games? Scheduled 9 inning games with a ten run mercy rule only in the second game of a doubleheader.
So the first weekend of the tourney is best 2-of-3, #8 at #1, #7 at #2, etc., and then 4-team double elimination at the highest remaining seed? Yes.
This is the first year with three scheduled conference games a week. The conference tournament will now include all eight teams, in past years it was double elimination with only the top six teams playing it out in one week. This year it will cover two weeks. So this year it will be a different look I guess, not sure why the change the past three years have been really good tournaments at three different host sites.
Thanks.
As for the LEC, I can see how one would have problems with a 14-game schedule winnowing out the best teams. In that short season, it makes sense to let them fight it out in the playoffs!
In a 21-game season, one has the credence of winning the head-to-head series when looking at tie-breakers.
I count 169 teams will participate in the 32 conference tourneys for Pool A bids.
Ralph,
GREAT JOB pulling all this data on the conferences together!!!!!! +1K
Ralph,
Great work on the conference summary. For the CCIW, it's Saturday DH/Sunday single game (except for Wheaton, which does not play on Sundays), with some mid-week singles/DH's necessary. All games are 9's as of this season.
EDIT: Thanks and +1! :) I have changed the table.
/Ralph
Quote from: mr_b on April 29, 2009, 06:53:46 PM
Ralph,
Great work on the conference summary. For the CCIW, it's Saturday DH/Sunday single game (except for Wheaton, which does not play on Sundays), with some mid-week singles/DH's necessary. All games are 9's as of this season.
EDIT: Thanks and +1! :) I have changed the table.
/Ralph
Thanks for the +1. One minor correction, however: given the crowded conference schedule, teams can't fit all CCIW games into seven weekends. Each team is required to play some mid-week conference games some time during the season. For example, North Park hosted Carthage for a doubleheader on a Tuesday afternoon (noon start), then traveled to Kenosha for a single Wednesday afternoon contest the following week. The CCIW rule on make-ups, as I understand, is that the teams must play on the first available day during the upcoming week. This has become a real challenge, given the cold and rainy spring we've experienced. North Park hosted Augustana on Saturday, and we got in the first game before lightning and rain halted play. Sunday was a wash-out. On Monday, Augustana had already committed to a make-up game vs. Carthage, which, not surprisingly, got rained out. On the next available day -- Tuesday -- Augustana came back to Chicago for a night DH -- the first pitch was at 6 PM, and the final out of game two was at 11 PM.
Quote from: mr_b on April 30, 2009, 07:53:37 AM
Quote from: mr_b on April 29, 2009, 06:53:46 PM
Ralph,
Great work on the conference summary. For the CCIW, it's Saturday DH/Sunday single game (except for Wheaton, which does not play on Sundays), with some mid-week singles/DH's necessary. All games are 9's as of this season.
EDIT: Thanks and +1! :) I have changed the table.
/Ralph
Thanks for the +1. One minor correction, however: given the crowded conference schedule, teams can't fit all CCIW games into seven weekends. Each team is required to play some mid-week conference games some time during the season. For example, North Park hosted Carthage for a doubleheader on a Tuesday afternoon (noon start), then traveled to Kenosha for a single Wednesday afternoon contest the following week. The CCIW rule on make-ups, as I understand, is that the teams must play on the first available day during the upcoming week. This has become a real challenge, given the cold and rainy spring we've experienced. North Park hosted Augustana on Saturday, and we got in the first game before lightning and rain halted play. Sunday was a wash-out. On Monday, Augustana had already committed to a make-up game vs. Carthage, which, not surprisingly, got rained out. On the next available day -- Tuesday -- Augustana came back to Chicago for a night DH -- the first pitch was at 6 PM, and the final out of game two was at 11 PM.
Thanks. As I understand you, the schedule for the CCIW has mid-week games already listedwhen the schedule is released in January prior to the start of the season and before the make-up games start piling up?
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2009, 10:18:46 AM
Thanks. As I understand you, the schedule for the CCIW has mid-week games already listedwhen the schedule is released in January prior to the start of the season and before the make-up games start piling up?
I believe that is right. The challenge faced by CCIW coaches is to fit in the rest of the non-conference schedule, which is either mid-week once conference games start, or in the week(s) prior to the start of conference play. North Park, for example, had six games versus NathCon teams (one Saturday DH and the others during the week) before playing CCIW rival Millikin. We are still short two games because of a DH rainout at the start of the season.
SCIAC has changed its format to a 3-game Friday single home then Saturday Away DH for the first time thru the schedule. Later in the season, the teams play a round robin of single games. That makes 28 conference games.
Tip of hat to LA Mike.
NWC has changed format back to 3-game series after a 2-year experiment.
Linfield's schedule only shows a 32-game season, reflecting the loss of one game against each of the 8 NWC foes.
The North Eastern Athletic Conference and the North Atlantic Conference have signed a multi-sport affiliation agreement to preserve access to the AQ for the 2 conferences in several sports.
The impact on baseball is that these two conferences will play division games and then send the post-season tourney winner to the playoffs as the AQ.
The East Division has the NAC teams: Castleton St. Husson, 4th-year provisional Lyndon State, ME-Farmington and Thomas.
The West Division has the NEAC teams: Cazenovia, Keuka, Keystone, PSU-Abington (1st-year provisional), PSU-Berks, PSU-Harrisburg (4th-year provisional), SUNY-Cobleskill (2nd-year provisional) and SUNYIT.
http://www.neacsports.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/standings-divisions
Correction: Immaculata University (Colonial States Athletic Conference) added baseball in 2009.
The CSAC had seven members in 2009 and will have 7 in 2010.
Ralph, Osh, RSSmith, others,
Just ran across below web sit today. Looks to be similar to Boyd's but much more organized.
Anyone familiar with it.
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cbase
Stealing a little info from the USA SOUTH website and the USA SOUTH message board on here....Piedmont College in Demorest, GA has officially announced their acceptance to the USA SOUTH starting 2012-2013 school year. USA SOUTH keeps conference automatic bid with the addition. Maryville College and LaGrange College are also considering a move to the USA SOUTH.
:)
Update of this topic covers the basic data for the conferences in D-III for the 2011 season. (In progress.)
I encourage fans to go to your favorite conference websites and then post the information about the conference on this site. Consider this an open board. Cut and paste as needed. Please proofread and correct as needed. This should help us become more familiar with D-III. If you do not want to bother with the tabular format, then post the information in the format listed below, and we can put it in later. Thanks to all who contribute. As always, corrections and contributions are always appreciated.
Conference| Region |Divisions (Yes/No) |Divisions (e.g.,East/West)| Round Robin (Single/double) |# of Conf/ Division games |Format (e.g., Friday 9 Sat 7/9 DH)| Tourney to determine the AQ (Yes/No)
Pool A Conferences
Conference | Region | Divisions (Yes/No) | Divisions (East/West) | Round Robin (Single/double) | # of Conf/Div games | Conf/Div Game Format | Tourney (Yes/No) |
AMCC | Mideast | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | DH's various days 7/7 | Yes; Top 6 |
ASC | West | Yes | East/West | Single/3 gm | 18/21 | FR 9; SA 7/9 DH | Yes |
CAC | South | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 18 | FR 9; SA 7/9 | Yes |
CC | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | DH 7/9 | Yes |
CCC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 22 | DH 7/7 | Yes |
CCIW | Central | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 21 | DH = 9/9; Sat DH/Sun single games* | Yes |
CSAC | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 15 | Single 9/ DH 7/7 | Yes |
GNAC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 14 | 7/7 DH's Sa/SU | Yes-Top 6 |
HCAC | Mideast | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 24 | Single 9/ DH 7/9 | Yes |
IIAC | Central | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 24 | Single 9/ DH 7/7 | Yes |
LAND | MA,NY,S | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 18 | SA 7/7; SU 9 | Yes |
LEC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 14 | 9/9 DH | Yes |
LL | New York | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 24 | DH/DH 7/7 or 7/9 | Yes |
| | | | | | |
MACC | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 15 | Single Home Fr/ DH Away Sa | Yes |
MACF | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 16 | Variable | Yes |
MIAA | Mid-East | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 28 | Home DH/ Away DH | No |
MIAC | Midwest | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 20 | DH; H or A | Yes |
MWC | Central | Yes | North/South | Single/4 gm | 16/12 | 9/9 DH usually Sa/Su | Yes |
NESCAC | New England | Yes | East/West | Single/ 3 gm | 12 | Single 9/DH 7/9 | Yes |
NEWMAC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 12 | DH 7/9 | Yes |
NJAC | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | DH 9/9 | Yes |
NAC | New England | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 16 | DH's 7/7 and 7/7 | Yes |
NATHC | Midwest | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 22 | DH's 9/9 | Yes |
NCAC | Mid-east | Yes | East/West | Single/ 4 gm | 16 | DH's Sa 7/7 & Su 7/7 | Yes |
NEAC | NY,MA | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 12 | DH 7/7 | Yes |
NECC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 10 | DH 7/7 | Yes |
NWC | West | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 32 | Sa DH/Su DH | No |
OAC | Mid-East | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | DH 7/9 | Yes |
ODAC | South | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | 7/9 DH | Yes; top 6 |
Pres AC | Mid-East | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 18 | Single 9/DH 7/7 | Yes |
SCIAC | West | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 21 | FR 9 Home; SA 9/9 Away | No |
SCAC | ME,S,W | Yes | East/West | Single/ Double | 15*/20 | See notes | Yes |
SKY | New York | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 16 | DH 9/7 | Yes |
SLIAC | Central | No | N/A | Single/Double | 24 | Home 9 Away 7/7 | Yes |
SUNYAC | New York | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 18 | * | Yes | |
UMAC | Midwest | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 21 | Fr DH 7/7 Sa 9 | Yes |
USAC | South | No | No | Single/2gm | 12 | 9/9 | Yes |
WIAC | Midwest | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 24 | SaSu DH 9/9 twice or Wed DH 9/9 | Yes |
Notes: (Legend. DE =Double Elimination)
AMCC: 10-team conference (Franciscan Steubenville is provisional year 2). Tourney format -- May 2nd single (play-in) games; #6 at #3; #5 at #4; #1 & #2 Byes. May 8-9 4-team tourney, DE.
ASC: East - 7 teams; West - 8 teams. Friday single 9-inning game; Saturday 7/9 DH; Division opponents only count towards tourney standings. East teams play 18 division games; West teams play 21. Top 4 in each division play best 2-of-3 in first round at #1 and #2 in each division. 4 winners hosted at highest East seed in 2009.
CC: 10-team conference. 4-team DE tourney; First day #1 & #2 host. #4 at #1; #3 at #2. Day-2 at #1 seed. May 1,2,3.
CCC: 12-team conference. 8-team DE tourney over 5 days. Apr 28,29, May 1,2,3.
CCIW: 10-run rule used in conference games. Tourney is 4-team DE at the #1 seed. May 7,8,9. Wheaton does not play games on Sunday. Make-up games occur in mid-week. (Thanks to mr_b.)
CSAC: 4-Team (?) tourney; #1 & #2 host on May 6th; highest seed hosts on May 8 & 9. Baptist Bible College did not declare for baseball in the CSAC this season. (Baptist Bible is competing in NCCAA II East Region.) There are only 6 teams in the CSAC this year after the departure of Alvernia, Eastern and Misericordia.
GNAC: 8-team conference. 6-Team tourney; Single elimination play-in for #3-#6 teams in the 1st round. #1 and #2 get 1st round byes. "Tourney Top 6- #6@#3, #5@#4 4/21. Quarterfinals @ #1 & #2 seed 4/23. Semifinals 4/25 @ St. Joe's College. Finals 4/26 @ St. Joe's College." (Stump correctly copied the GNAC web site. sic) Thanks Stump
HCAC: 9-team conference; 4-team DE tourney May 7-9.
IIAC: 9-team conference; 6-team DE tourney at Cedar Rapids on May 7-9.
LAND: 7-team conference. Pool A status in 2010. Multi-region conference, Mid-Atlantic, New York and South Regions. (Goucher does not play baseball.) Plays season-ending post-season tourney; top 4 DE tourney at #1 seed.
LEC: 8-team confernece. Six teams qualify for tourney. Double Elikmination. Finals by May 15.
LL: 7-team conference. 4-team DE tourney. Rochester has dual membership with the UAA.
MACC: Has 6 teams in 2009. 3-game series each weekend. Single game played at Team A on Fr then DH at Team B on Sat. Alvernia moves to the Commonwealth from the Freedom in 2010. Tourney is 4-team DE, May 1-3 at Albright.
MACF: Has 9 teams in 2009. Teams play either DH or single game Home/Away series. Tourney has single play-in game #5 at #4 on Apr 28, then 4-team DE Apr 30-May 2 at Boyertown.
MIAA: Eight team conference. Four-game series back-to-back home away DH's. No tourney
MIAC: Eleven-team conference. 4-team DE Tourney. May 7,8,9
MWC: North Division has 5 teams; South Division has 4; (no Lake Forest); 4-team tourney; Top 2 from each division; DE. North hosts in 2009. May 8-9. (Thanks Hickory Cornhusker.)
NESCAC: 10-teams in 2 divisions (no Connecticut College). Tourney is top 2 each division at West #1, DE. Tourney is May 8-10 at West highest seed.
NEWMAC: 7-team conference. Plays 6-team DE tourney. First 2 rounds at higher seed on Apr 22-23, final 2 days of games at highest seed, Apr 25-26.
NJAC: 10-team conference. Plays 6-team DE. Apr 28, 30, May 2,3.
NAC: 5-team conference. 4-team DE. NAC will not have the required 7 schools to qualify for Pool A bid. Therefore, the NAC will affiliate with the NEAC (in multiple sports) in 2010 to preserve access to the AQ, (for both conferences).
NCAC: 4-team tourney, best of three 9-inning between top 2 teams from each division. Winners play best-of-3 nine inning games the May 8-9.
NEAC: 7-team conference. (PSU-Harrisburg is 2nd-yr provisional; SUNY-Cobleskill is 1st-yr provisional.) Post-season tourney Top 4 double elim. (Accepts affiliation by the North Atlantic Conference in 2010 to preserve access to the AQ.)
NATHC: 12-team conf. Tournament - Top 4 Qualify, standard DE at Rockford.
NECC: Lesley will add baseball in 2010-11 to make a 7-team conference. Earned the Pool A bid in 2011.)
NWC: No additional notes.
OAC: Tourney top 4 teams DE.
ODAC: 10-team conference (no Randolph College). Saturday 7/9 DH vs 7 opponents, 2 9's in mid-week vs 2 opponents. Top 6 of the 10 teams advance to DE tournament. .
Pres AC: Geneva Provisional yr #2 and St Vincent Provisional yr #3. Single 9 inning home; 7/7 Away DH. Tourney is 4-team DE.
SCIAC: Plays Friday game 9 innings at home/away and then Saturday 9/9 DH away/home. No tourney.
SCAC: * 2nd-year provisional Birmingham-Southern (BSC) games are not "in-region"; East 5 teams plus BSC; West 5 teams, no Colorado College. East is playing single round-robin 3-games series. West plays 2/3;H/A Double Round Robin with a 2-game series at home/away and then a 3-game series away/home on another weekend. Multi-region conference. 6-team DE tourney.
SKY: Tourney #3-#6 single game play-in on April 29th, then remaining four DE tourney on May 1-3. (Bard doesn't play baseball.)
SLIAC: Home 9 away 7/7 DH; Top 4 teams, DE tourney at Highland IL on May 7-9.
SUNYAC: 4-team DE on May 1-3. (No Buffalo, Geneseo, Potsdam)
UMAC: Earned the Pool A bid in 2011.
USAC: 7-team DE tourney April 16-19, 2009; conference cut back to 12 conference games to improve chances at better, less internecine regional records for conference members.
WIAC: No UW-EC, no UW-RF. 24 conference games, two 9/9 DH's. Tourney is "DE", double elimination.; Top 3 teams.
AMCC = Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conf
ASC = American Southwest Conf
CAC = Capital Athletic Conference
CC = Centennial Conf
CCIW = College Conf of Illinois and Wisconsin
CSAC = Colonial States Ath Conf
MACC = Commonwealth Conf
CCC = Commonwealth Coast Conf
MACF = Freedom Conf
GNAC = Great Northeast Ath Conf
HCAC = Heartland Collegiate Ath Conf
IIAC = Iowa Intercollegiate Ath Conf
LAND = Landmark Conference
LL = Liberty League
LEC = Little East Conf
MASCAC = Massachusetts State College Ath Conf
MIAA = Michigan Intercollegiate Ath Assn
MWC = Midwest Conf
MIAC = Minnesota Intercollegiate Ath Conf
NECC = New England Collegiate Conference
NESCAC = New England Small College Ath Conf
NEWMAC = New England Women's and Men's Ath Conf
NJAC = New Jersey Ath Conf
NAC = North Atlantic Conf
NCAC = North Coast Ath Conf
NEAC = North Eastern Ath Conf
NATHC = Northern Athletics Conf
NWC = Northwest Conf
OAC = Ohio Athletic Conf
ODAC = Old Dominion Ath Conf
PrAC = President's Ath Conf
SKY = Skyline Conf
SLIAC = St. Louis Intercollegiate Ath Conf
SCIAC = Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conf
SCAC = Southern Collegiate Ath Conf
SUNYAC = State University of New York Ath Conf
UMAC = Upper Midwest Athletic Conference
USAC = USA South Ath Conf
WIAC = Wisconsin Intercollegiate Ath Conf
Pool B ConferencesConference | Region | Divisions (Yes/No) | Divisions (East/West) | Round Robin (Single/double) | # of Conf/Div games | Conf/Div Game Format | Tourney (Yes/No) |
CUNYAC | New York | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 10 | DH 7/7 | Yes |
E8 | New York | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 16 | Sa/Su DH's 7/7 & 7/7 | No |
GSAC | South | No | No | Single | 9 | DH 9/9 +single 9 | No |
UAA | NE, NY, S, ME, C | No | N/A | * | * | * | * |
Notes: (Legend -- DE = double elimination)
CAC: 7-team conference (no Hood or Marymount VA). Plays 6-team DE tourney. Pool B conference; should earn Pool A status in 2010.
CUNYAC: 6-team conference including Baruch, CCNY, College of Staten island (CSI), John Jay, Lehman and affiliate (4th-yr provisional) Mitchell. Plays 4-team DE tourney.
E8: 5-team conference including Ithaca, Rochester Inst of Tech (RIT), St John Fisher, Stevens and Utica.
GSAC: 4-team conference. Pool B members. No post-season tourney. Piedmont made 2008 NCAA's as a Pool B bid.
UAA: * 5-team conference including Brandeis, Emory, CWRU and Wash StL. Rochester carries dual membership in Liberty League. (Chicago does not compete in UAA). Conducts 5-team conference tourney in Florida every March.
CUNYAC = City University of New York Athetic Conference
E 8 = Empire 8
GSAC = Great South Athletic Conference
UAA = University Athletic Association
Pool B independents
Region | Teams |
Central | Chicago, Neb Wesleyan |
Mid-Atl | Lancaster |
Mideast | Finlandia |
Midwest | none |
New England | University of Maine-Presque Isle |
New York | none |
South | Rust |
West | Chapman, Dallas |
Ralph,
The WIAC is the Top three teams, not four. #2 vs #3 with the winner taking on #1. Tournament at the home field of the regular season champion.
The NATHC plays no 7/7 DH's. They are all 9/9.
Thanks to cubs and JustBill! +1! to both. :)
Ralph,
LEC is a double elimination Six team tourney at the #1 seed May 11th through 14th with 15th a rain date.
OM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 17, 2011, 07:59:59 PM
Update of this topic covers the basic data for the conferences in D-III for the 2011 season. (In progress.)
I encourage fans to go to your favorite conference websites and then post the information about the conference on this site. Consider this an open board. Cut and paste as needed. Please proofread and correct as needed. This should help us become more familiar with D-III. If you do not want to bother with the tabular format, then post the information in the format listed below, and we can put it in later. Thanks to all who contribute. As always, corrections and contributions are always appreciated.
Conference| Region |Divisions (Yes/No) |Divisions (e.g.,East/West)| Round Robin (Single/double) |# of Conf/ Division games |Format (e.g., Friday 9 Sat 7/9 DH)| Tourney to determine the AQ (Yes/No)
Pool A Conferences
Conference | Region | Divisions (Yes/No) | Divisions (East/West) | Round Robin (Single/double) | # of Conf/Div games | Conf/Div Game Format | Tourney (Yes/No) |
AMCC | Mideast | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | DH's various days 7/7 | Yes; Top 6 |
ASC | West | Yes | East/West | Single/3 gm | 18/21 | FR 9; SA 7/9 DH | Yes |
CAC | South | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 18 | FR 9; SA 7/9 | Yes |
CC | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | DH 7/9 | Yes |
CCC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 22 | DH 7/7 | Yes |
CCIW | Central | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 21 | DH = 9/9; Sat DH/Sun single games* | Yes |
CSAC | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 15 | Single 9/ DH 7/7 | Yes |
GNAC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 14 | 7/7 DH's Sa/SU | Yes-Top 6 |
HCAC | Mideast | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 24 | Single 9/ DH 7/9 | Yes |
IIAC | Central | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 24 | Single 9/ DH 7/7 | Yes |
LAND | MA,NY,S | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 18 | SA 7/7; SU 9 | Yes |
LEC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 14 | 9/9 DH | Yes |
LL | New York | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 24 | DH/DH 7/7 or 7/9 | Yes |
| | | | | | |
MACC | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 15 | Single Home Fr/ DH Away Sa | Yes |
MACF | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 16 | Variable | Yes |
MIAA | Mid-East | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 28 | Home DH/ Away DH | No |
MIAC | Midwest | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 20 | DH; H or A | Yes |
MWC | Central | Yes | North/South | Single/4 gm | 16/12 | 9/9 DH usually Sa/Su | Yes |
NESCAC | New England | Yes | East/West | Single/ 3 gm | 12 | Single 9/DH 7/9 | Yes |
NEWMAC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 12 | DH 7/9 | Yes |
NJAC | Mid-Atl | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | DH 9/9 | Yes |
NAC | New England | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 16 | DH's 7/7 and 7/7 | Yes |
NATHC | Midwest | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 22 | DH's 9/9 | Yes |
NCAC | Mid-east | Yes | East/West | Single/ 4 gm | 16 | DH's Sa 7/7 & Su 7/7 | Yes |
NEAC | NY,MA | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 12 | DH 7/7 | Yes |
NECC | New England | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 10 | DH 7/7 | Yes |
NWC | West | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 32 | Sa DH/Su DH | No |
OAC | Mid-East | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | DH 7/9 | Yes |
ODAC | South | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 18 | 7/9 DH | Yes; top 6 |
Pres AC | Mid-East | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 18 | Single 9/DH 7/7 | Yes |
SCIAC | West | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 21 | FR 9 Home; SA 9/9 Away | No |
SCAC | ME,S,W | Yes | East/West | Single/ Double | 15*/20 | See notes | Yes |
SKY | New York | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 16 | DH 9/7 | Yes |
SLIAC | Central | No | N/A | Single/Double | 24 | Home 9 Away 7/7 | Yes |
SUNYAC | New York | No | N/A | Single/2 gm | 12 | Sa/Su 9/9 DH | Yes | |
UMAC | Midwest | No | N/A | Single/3 gm | 21 | Fr DH 7/7 Sa 9 | Yes |
USAC | South | No | No | Single/2gm | 12 | 9/9 | Yes |
WIAC | Midwest | No | N/A | Single/4 gm | 24 | SaSu DH 9/9 twice or Wed DH 9/9 | Yes |
Hey Ralph-
Beginning this year SUNYAC plays 18 Conference games
-Thanks
Starting in 2010, the NWC moved to a three game weekend series - DH Sat and single game Sunday.
Quote from: Piobark on May 17, 2011, 09:04:56 AM
Starting in 2010, the NWC moved to a three game weekend series - DH Sat and single game Sunday.
Does that mean they will play less conference games? I think they played a four-game series in year's past, correct?
This is a smart move as it allows them to boost their SoSs.
For the last two years, they have been playing fewer in-conference games.
This is what has opened the door for more out of conference series like the 4 game weekend Chapman-Linfield series in late April.
With the 9-team SCIAC and the 9-team NWC now having an open date in the middle of the season, I hope that the conferences can work together to make inter-conference games a real possibility.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 17, 2011, 02:02:40 PM
With the 9-team SCIAC and the 9-team NWC now having an open date in the middle of the season, I hope that the conferences can work together to make inter-conference games a real possibility.
$$$$$$$$$. If they can work out an aggreement so that the traveling team can pick up other games in the region while there it may work out. But do you want to be the NWC team shares the open date with Cal Tech? An SoS killer.
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 17, 2011, 02:21:05 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 17, 2011, 02:02:40 PM
With the 9-team SCIAC and the 9-team NWC now having an open date in the middle of the season, I hope that the conferences can work together to make inter-conference games a real possibility.
$$$$$$$$$. If they can work out an aggreemtn so that the traveling team can pick up other games in the region while there it may work out. But do you want to be the NWC team shares the open date with Cal Tech? An SoS killer.
I can not see more travel between NWC and SCIAC other that what is in place today. Chapman has only 2 overnight travel dates per year. This year they played McMurry in Abilene and Linfield in McMinnville. With the emphasis on academics in the SCIAC I just see teams traveling much between the SCIAC and NWC
The concept of NWC teams traveling south and SoCal team traveling north may not be practical. Some teams do make a trip now; play 4-5 games. It is a long bus ride from Seattle, Spokane or Portland to SoCal (16-20 hours each way) or alternatively flying a 25 man roster with hotels and ground transporation could easily cost $12,000 or more.
It is going to be real hard to fill up a schedule with D3 schools. There are a handful of NAIA schools that you can schedule and keep costs under control. In my book it is not financially prudent to expect NWC schools to head south or SoCal schools to head north for anything other than a planned "spring trip."
Quote from: ILVBB on May 17, 2011, 02:29:54 PM
The concept of NWC teams traveling south and SoCal team traveling north may not be practical. Some teams do make a trip now; play 4-5 games. It is a long bus ride from Seattle, Spokane or Portland to SoCal (16-20 hours each way) or alternatively flying a 25 man roster with hotels and ground transporation could easily cost $12,000 or more.
It is going to be real hard to fill up a schedule with D3 schools. There are a handful of NAIA schools that you can schedule and keep costs under control. In my book it is not financially prudent to expect NWC schools to head south or SoCal schools to head north for anything other than a planned "spring trip."
Yet it is "expected" of nearly every cold weather school. They somehow find a way to get it done year after year.
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 17, 2011, 02:21:05 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 17, 2011, 02:02:40 PM
With the 9-team SCIAC and the 9-team NWC now having an open date in the middle of the season, I hope that the conferences can work together to make inter-conference games a real possibility.
$$$$$$$$$. If they can work out an aggreement so that the traveling team can pick up other games in the region while there it may work out. But do you want to be the NWC team shares the open date with Cal Tech? An SoS killer.
Any NWC team might not be able to make the trip that year. (As you said, $$$$$$$$$.) That can be the Cal Tech weekend.
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 17, 2011, 02:33:09 PM
Quote from: ILVBB on May 17, 2011, 02:29:54 PM
The concept of NWC teams traveling south and SoCal team traveling north may not be practical. Some teams do make a trip now; play 4-5 games. It is a long bus ride from Seattle, Spokane or Portland to SoCal (16-20 hours each way) or alternatively flying a 25 man roster with hotels and ground transporation could easily cost $12,000 or more.
It is going to be real hard to fill up a schedule with D3 schools. There are a handful of NAIA schools that you can schedule and keep costs under control. In my book it is not financially prudent to expect NWC schools to head south or SoCal schools to head north for anything other than a planned "spring trip."
Yet it is "expected" of nearly every cold weather school. They somehow find a way to get it done year after year.
Northeast teams, as I'm sure there are many others, travel once or twice down south or Arizona in early Spring for 10-12 games. The rest of the season is usually spent on a bus for a few hrs. and an overnight stay for each away opponent. Is the west coast that sparse? Those teams seem to play alot of games. Do they just keep playing the same 6 or so teams?
Schools from the Midwest and East travel to the West Coast and the SOCAL teams are able to schedule games with them. This helps keep the travel costs down. Chapman traveled to Linfied this year and also has had a home and home series with MCM iin the past.
Is the west coast that sparse? In reality it is that sparse. The west runs from Arkansas to Seattle; yet only has about 35 schools. That is half the country with less than 10% of the schools. If you split the region again you have Texas, SoCal and the Northwest.
The Texas schools could travel to Minn or WI but that does not make sense when their season doesn't start untill April when most of the Texas schools are winding down.
I know that the school my son attended doesn't begin to cover all the travel costs. Three of the four years parents funded nearly $60K a year to cover travel costs. In that a high percentage of D3's are private I doubt that parents are big on shelling out more money when tution can run as much as $50K per year.
The fact that 70% of the D3's are in cold weather climates which necessitates travel to play early games is irrelevant. These same teams spend most of their season with nominal travel.
Starting this year the NCAC will be: DH's Sa 7/9 & Su 7/9
QuoteSchedule consists of one 7-inning contest and one
9-inning contest each day (first game of day is 7
innings. If first game of the day goes into extra
innings, second game becomes a 7-inning game.)
http://www2.northcoast.org/sites/default/files/baseball/Baseball%202012%20-%20divisions%205-11.pdf
Is there an accurate update of these conferences?
Quote from: D3SportsFan on April 12, 2017, 12:45:33 PM
Is there an accurate update of these conferences?
Good question.
I did that partially for me to learn the conferences and also for the D3baseball fans to get up to speed.
My day job has been very busy since I did that long ago, far far away...
With the recent article about the changes possibly coming to the CSAC, are there any other changes in conferences that are cycling through the rumor mill?
Quote from: D3SportsFan on June 14, 2017, 03:47:45 PM
With the recent article about the changes possibly coming to the CSAC, are there any other changes in conferences that are cycling through the rumor mill?
I think the article on the front page is the most accurate.