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#1
Quote from: sumfun on February 05, 2012, 04:13:52 PM
Possibly a "letdown" today at Emory after big win at Rochester.  How long has it been since Emory has beaten Wash U?  Glad to see Christy Thomascutty getting her team to gel.

Without looking at the record book, they beat WashU at the Woodruff Center the first year that UChicago won the UAA title (2007-2008 season?). They still haven't won at the WUSTL Fieldhouse.

My prediction held up. (below)

Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on January 07, 2012, 11:29:04 AM

Usually I don't make too many predictions, especially without seeing every team play. But here is my stab at conference play:
I can't see UR winning conference, which is what would happen in your scenario... I have also only seen them play once so far this year, so maybe you have better expectations. I don't see Chicago losing to NYU... they are still trying to find their way in the post-Quinn era, and I don't know where their scoring will come from. If anything, I think UChicago, WashU, and UR will beat up on each other. I think Emory will be the trap game this year, especially because its travel partner is UR. CWRU and CMU still looks like the easiest weekend.
#2
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on January 28, 2012, 09:15:02 AM
Nice win by Rochester last night.  Was following on Live Stats and it looked like a crazy finish.  Did not realize UofR was 0-23 at WashU.  Always a tough road trip.

It was a crazy finish! Couple turnovers by WashU on their last two possessions, so they weren't able to get a shot up on either. They might be the youngest team in the UAA -- four freshmen on the floor in crunchtime as of late.

Now the matchup tomorrow gets even bigger. Protecting home court is so important in the UAA -- I think UChi will put out the victory, but should be another barn burner.
#3
Oh come on hopefan, the official rulebook is only 153 pages (of dense, bland regulations) long. ;) Its in there somewhere.
http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/BR13.pdf
#4
Quote from: hopefan on January 23, 2012, 04:08:08 AM
Wydown... I saw the tape of the end of the game... simply not right..... Wash U officials at table or on the bench should have helped the 3 officials on the floor... Wash U should consider that an embarrassment to accept the win....  reminds me of the commercial where the player says, it went off my hand coach, the ball goes to the other team...   SOMEONE should have said the ball didn't hit the rim, it goes to NYU....  Play OT and let the winner be justified....

Note I've watched the tape several times... the shot from outside clearly misses EVERYTHING, when 23 catches the ball underneath, the red shot clock light has already illuminated the backboard.. in fact the light has gone off BEFORE 23 catches the ball .... 23 flips it up and the ball hits the rim, then the shot clock buzzer goes off, at least a full second after the light....45 rebounds and puts it up at the final buzzer.....   the problem is the shot clock buzzer went off WAY LATE....  HONESTY, SPORTSMANSHIP... had I stayed for the ladies game (I was at the Men's game) I would have been very vocal about doing it right.... This was a correctible error, if not by the rules, by FAIRNESS to both teams.....

All right, now someone tell me how I messed this up... I usually do... but don't tell me the buzzer is what counts, otherwise, why the illumination of the backboard at all?

hopefan, glad you got more information because this rant was a bit unnecessary.
#5
Bears win via buzzer beating putback by Monahan. 51-49 over NYU. Ugly game... Each team had ~11 turnovers at the half. NYU almost pulls off a huge upset.
#6
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Top 25 discussion
January 15, 2012, 04:48:02 PM
Quote from: sunny on January 14, 2012, 08:09:26 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 14, 2012, 03:53:55 PM
Good question, but I know Franklin is already at my personal ceiling -- they would have to win a couple playoff games to get higher on my own ballot.

Understood, but I'm not sure what Mount Union did to get such a BIG boost last week. It seemed sort of out of whack with the rest of the poll. That was the more eye-catching thing to me - I just threw Franklin in as a point of comparison. No doubt it was a statistical anomaly brought about by circumstances on multiple ballots, but it is pretty odd. (Obviously, Franklin's loss today will deservedly drop them).

To answer your question: nothing, really. Combining the win of ONU with benefits from being the next in line "big name contender" from the other T25 teams directly below Hope, Williams, etc. who had lost.

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 14, 2012, 09:19:25 PM
IWU beat #23 Carthage with a 3-pointer w/ 2 seconds left, 70-69.  Since their losses are all to VERY good teams (2 road, 1 neutral, 1 home), and with their pedigree from recent seasons, I'm wondering if they will be the first 4-loss team to crack the Top 25 this season.

Bet they will be. Not sure what other 4-loss team would be in the running. Considering the injuries they have overcome, seems about right.
#7
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Top 25 discussion
January 14, 2012, 08:00:56 PM
Echoing Pat Coleman a bit.

My guess would be that Mount Union (esp bc of their recent post-season successes) has an edge in the program prestige/history factor over a team like Franklin. When a couple other historically-good/tournament-bound teams ahead of them lost (Hope and Williams for example), voters preferred moving up MU than Franklin.

The voters must navigate between the historically-good teams and the ups and downs of their seasons, and teams that might have an excellent record, but are more unknown and unproven. In D1 they talk about power conferences and mid-majors (apologize for a D1 reference  ;))... Basically, the same thing is going on D3 style.
#8
Wouldn't count WashU out yet... playing UChicago to 2points without both starting post players. Combining the return of a senior starter to the lineup with Coach Fahey (and all of those freshman getting tons of experience in the first half of the season), I still see this is being a three horse race, with Chicago as the frontrunner. My gut still telling me Emory is the trap game...
#9
UChicago wins by 3(?). Here is my "non-basketball-heavy" analysis: What a game?!? Definitely the best D3 has to offer. Big time plays on both sides. Great defense and big shot after big shot. Both of these teams will go deep into the tournament (well at least as deep as they could go before meeting each other). WashU played extremely well without their two starting post players, and I think lived up to their ranking.
#10
Quote from: 7express on January 06, 2012, 09:34:08 PM
My prediction for the UAA this year:
Wash U beats Chicago & Rochester at home, loses to both on the road
Rochester splits with Wash U, sweeps Chicago
Chicago gets swept by Rochester, splits with Wash U, and loses to either Brandeis/NYU, and possibly someone else.  As someone said Chicago has a target on their back this; for teams like Emory, CWR & Carnegie Mellon, those 2 games against Chicago will be their championship.

Usually I don't make too many predictions, especially without seeing every team play. But here is my stab at conference play:
I can't see UR winning conference, which is what would happen in your scenario... I have also only seen them play once so far this year, so maybe you have better expectations. I don't see Chicago losing to NYU... they are still trying to find their way in the post-Quinn era, and I don't know where their scoring will come from. If anything, I think UChicago, WashU, and UR will beat up on each other. I think Emory will be the trap game this year, especially because its travel partner is UR. CWRU and CMU still looks like the easiest weekend.
#11
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on January 06, 2012, 12:24:19 PM
Quote from: 7express on January 06, 2012, 02:41:16 AM
Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on January 05, 2012, 10:04:45 PM
NYU has historically had a weak non-con. No surprise there.


I was just gonna say NYU normally feasts on cupcakes in their non UAA portion of the schedule, no surprise they have no votes.  They get Brandeis, Emory and Rochester are all home the next 2 weeks, so a chance for them to at least get some votes with 3 wins (against 1 team in the top 15 and 1 in the ORV category).

It's always surprised me that NYU doesn't have a better out of conference schedule.  I get that they don't want to travel but it seems like they could find decent competition in the metro area.  Do they host a tournament?  I think that's how Rochester manages at least a decent SOS.  They host 2 tournament plus play in the Wnedy's Classic.

On the other hand, I can see the reasoning for NYU scheduling weak (not that I agree with it)... rack up the in-region wins, finish in the top half of the pack in the UAA, and basically stamp your ticket to the NCAAs. If you don't get enough wins in conference, then you still play in that postseason ECAC thing. On the NYU women's side, they have historically done the same thing (CWRE men historically schedule weak OOC as well). Not a fan, but it kind of makes sense in terms of taking advantage of the multiregional dimension of the UAA.
#12
NYU has historically had a weak non-con. No surprise there.
#13
Quote from: bballfan13 on January 05, 2012, 02:10:54 PM
Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on January 05, 2012, 12:25:42 PM
Well... anyone else excited for the UChicago v WashU game on Saturday?!?
The matchup doesn't have the school rivalry as a Hope/Calvin or Amherst/Williams, but in terms of quality of basketball over the past 3 or 4 years, this has replaced NYU/WashU as showcasing the best of the conference.

I think the deciding factor will be the young post play of WashU up against the All-American talent of Simpson et al. There is tons of athleticism in the WashU backcourt, but the Bears' rebounding (or lack thereof) could be an issue. WashU has faced adversity via injuries so far this season, which will pay off in the long-haul as their young players quickly turn into veterans, but for a big matchup against Chicago, it might hurt them.

The winner of this game basically becomes the favorite to win the conference, and the game could possibly be a major factor in hosting for the NCAA tournament when the time comes for match-up Monday.


I am excited to see the outcome of the game because as you said it could possibly help determine where the first and second rounds of the NCAA's are played.  As a Calvin fan, I also would like to see how both Chicago and Wash U are doing this year and this should be a good indicator.

You said that the winner of the game becomes the conference favorite but what about Rochester, who's currently undefeated and ranked at #5 above Wash U?

This will be a good indicator of where WashU and UChicago stand, although both teams have faced very good non-conference competition (as usual), so we have certainly been able to see that they are still in the upper upper echelon of D3 (hence part of the reason for their high rankings). As we have seen with these last WashU squads, any of Coach Fahey's rosters can be Final Four caliber teams, and as these UChicago teams have gained more experience, I expect them to be able to go deeper into the tournament each year.

I am just not sure WashU's depth (or lack there of due to injuries) will be enough to overcome the long and sometimes grueling conference schedule. On the other hand, UChicago is really playing with the target on their backs this year with much higher expectations. Do I see them going undefeated in conference play again? I think this game will certainly be the measuring stick for how beatable they may or may not be during conference.

While UR is a tough place to play, history is not on UR's side, which is why in my eyes they would not be the favorite until they at least beat UChicago or WashU. While WashU/UChicago on the first weekend gives one of the contenders an early loss, the toughest two weekends for the others on the conference slate must be the WashU/UChicago weekends. I just don't see someone beating both of those teams in a single weekend.
#14
Well... anyone else excited for the UChicago v WashU game on Saturday?!?
The matchup doesn't have the school rivalry as a Hope/Calvin or Amherst/Williams, but in terms of quality of basketball over the past 3 or 4 years, this has replaced NYU/WashU as showcasing the best of the conference.

I think the deciding factor will be the young post play of WashU up against the All-American talent of Simpson et al. There is tons of athleticism in the WashU backcourt, but the Bears' rebounding (or lack thereof) could be an issue. WashU has faced adversity via injuries so far this season, which will pay off in the long-haul as their young players quickly turn into veterans, but for a big matchup against Chicago, it might hurt them.

The winner of this game basically becomes the favorite to win the conference, and the game could possibly be a major factor in hosting for the NCAA tournament when the time comes for match-up Monday.
#15
Region 1 women's basketball / Re: NESCAC Hoops
December 10, 2011, 02:29:03 PM
Quote from: sumfun on December 10, 2011, 07:46:23 AM
Amherst can't take post graduates or 5th year players that had an "injury" year as there is no graduate school.  Schools in the UAA can have a 5th year player like Jamie McFarland for Wash U who is now playing in Europe.

I heard these grumbles already from the CCIW/IWU folks about the 5th year. Amherst (and any other college) can offer a 5th year player the option of a second bachelors (BA, BS, BSBA, etc), while universities (including those in the UAA) can offer graduate school as an option for the 5th year. All schools have the opportunity of extending its student-athletes a fifth year.

The second option... that all schools have (and that the military academies use esp. for football) includes having the student-athlete take the semester off. The third option, which is more reasonable for the NESCAC, is to extend the degree (fewer hours and/or less degree requirements per semester).

The fifth year option is rarely taken by student-athletes... Even if you look at the UAA, how many 5th year players have we seen over the past 5 to 10 years. Not many, with WashU having the two high profile cases of 5th years on the mens and womens side.

Jumpshot does bring up a good point.  ;) But, regardless of the sport, each school/conference in D3 has its own recruiting advantages (tips, location, degrees, prestige, international presence, etc.). The best conferences and athletic departments are the ones that utilize those advantages the best.