BB: CCIW: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

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Gregory Sager

North Park's schedule is up. In addition to the usual trip to Sauget and another Gene Cusic Classic week down in Fort Myers, both preceded as has been the case in the recent past with a doubleheader at Birmingham-Southern, the Vikings will open the season this season with a trip to Mississippi to face LaGrange, Belhaven, and Millsaps, starting one month from yesterday.
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BigPoppa

While that seems super early for the season to begin, note that Hope International University (NAIA) opens its season tonight with the first of three games against Saint Katherine College in Southern California.
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Gregory Sager

Everything's relative, BP. If this was a room about cross-country skiing, we wouldn't be reading about Hope International starting its season before everybody else. ;)
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BigPoppa

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 19, 2018, 03:46:26 PM
Everything's relative, BP. If this was a room about cross-country skiing, we wouldn't be reading about Hope International starting its season before everybody else. ;)

Is there really a room for Cross Country Skiing? If not, there needs to be!
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Gregory Sager

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BigPoppa

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 24, 2018, 01:29:44 PM
Very big news today from the CCIW office regarding the conference baseball tournament.

Wow! That is a major shift for the CCIW. Has it ever NOT been a four-teamer before? I know they have gone through some other formats in the past including two divisions where top two from each moved to tourney, and also the point system which awarded points for season wins and more points for CCIW tourney wins... and whoever had the most points at the end was the awarded the bid, even if they didn't win the CCIW season or CCIW post-season crowns. (I know one season Carthage had it won before the final day of the tourney even began based on running away with the CCIW season and a few tourney wins). Regardless, this is an interesting change for the CCIW.
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Gregory Sager

The CCIW tournament has always been limited to four teams since its inception in 1985, regardless of championship format changes.
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BigPoppa

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 26, 2018, 12:20:26 PM
The CCIW tournament has always been limited to four teams since its inception in 1985, regardless of championship format changes.

Thanks, Greg! Any idea of the reasoning behind the move?
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Gregory Sager

No, it's a bit of a mystery. Numerous coaches in various CCIW sports have wanted to expand their tournaments for a long time now, but I'm puzzled as to why these four sports expanded theirs while, for instance, softball, men's and women's soccer, and men's and women's lacrosse didn't. I'm planning to make some inquiries.
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augie_superfan

Does anyone know why Augustana has had so many recruits from Colorado over the past few years?  Is there some connection out there?  It's been several years now where baseball is getting a lot of recruits from Colorado.  It seems other sports have been doing the same (men's and women's basketball, etc).  Maybe it's a school-wide geographical emphasis or something?

Gregory Sager

It's not just Augustana; other schools have also been recruiting Colorado. Augie's just been better at it than have the other CCIW schools.

Colorado is one of the fastest-growing states in the U.S. in terms of population, as the number of people who live there has doubled since 1980. However, the Centennial State is underserved by colleges and universities in terms of the number of institutions of higher learning that are based there, as are all of the mountain states in the western U.S. This means that Colorado, in particular among those western states, has a large pool of high-school student-athletes who could potentially continue to play sports but don't have a school in-state that has a slot for them.

Recruiting is in large part a matter of supply and demand. Demand for student-athletes is very high among Illinois-based small colleges, because there's an awful lot of Illinois-based small colleges. The in-state supply is limited, especially as the state's population shrinks and the average age of Illinoisians increases. Colorado, with a burgeoning number of high-school student-athletes and too few colleges for them to attend and play for, has the overstocked supply that can help meet that demand in Illinois. There's a D2/D3/NAIA school for every 312,000 Illinoisians, but only one for every 500,000 Coloradans.

That's why CCIW coaches from various sports are now working Colorado as a recruiting field.
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augie_superfan

Makes sense, I was just a bit shocked to see 10 of Augie's 19 freshman hailing from Colorado this year.

BigPoppa

Quote from: augie_superfan on February 06, 2018, 04:40:27 PM
Makes sense, I was just a bit shocked to see 10 of Augie's 19 freshman hailing from Colorado this year.

There is also less recruiting competition in that area from outside schools.
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lmitzel

Coaches' poll is out. North Central is your favorite with 6 first place votes and 58 total points. Wheaton is second with 2 first place votes and 54 points. Illinois Wesleyan is third with 52 points, Augie fourth with 46 and the remaining first place vote.
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BigPoppa

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Quote from: lmitzel on February 14, 2018, 11:51:45 AM
Coaches' poll is out. North Central is your favorite with 6 first place votes and 58 total points. Wheaton is second with 2 first place votes and 54 points. Illinois Wesleyan is third with 52 points, Augie fourth with 46 and the remaining first place vote.

I think Carthage may surprise some people this year.


2018 Preseason Baseball Coaches' Poll
Rank    Institution    Points (1st Pl. Votes)
1    North Central    58 (6)
2    Wheaton    54 (2)
3    Illinois Wesleyan    52
4    Augustana    46 (1)
5    Carthage    36
6    Millikin    30
7    Elmhurst    18
8    North Park    17
9    Carroll    13
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